From lphernan at xxx.edu Tue Oct 27 13:39:24 1998 From: lphernan at xxx.edu (Leo Hernandez) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 08:39:24 -0500 Subject: Sinister: live taping at athens Message-ID: <00a701be01af$36982dc0$e64dae98@pompano.pompano.net> hello, I've notised the big ruckus about copies of tigermilk and such being put on CDs. How this has an impact on B&S revenues since 95% of us will want our own mastered copy instead of a bassy phono copy from tape or CD, i don't know and am not willing to discuss at the moment. one thing that I don't see being discussed is live taping. is it allowed? if so, is it audience or soundboard? I would really like to tape the upcoming athens show (if it's still on; I haven't seen a confirmation yet), but I don't know anything about B&S' or jeepster's policy. I'd be willing to make three copies (in addition to a copy for jeepster's use) in exchange for a taped copy of tigermilk so that everyone can have it. any response would be greatly appreciated. cheers, leo ================================================================== "...people would like to think that there's somebody up there who knows what he's doing. since we don't participate, we don't control and we don't even think about questions of vital importance. we hope somebody is paying attention who has some competence. let's hope the ship has a captain, in other words, since we're not taking part in what's going on" -noam chomsky ================================================================== +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Thu Oct 1 03:08:32 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 22:08:32 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Trembling Boys with Blue Stereo Lab and Stars References: Message-ID: <3612E420.1F9640D6@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Cass writes: > Kind of off the track, but has anyone heard Trembling Blue Stars and > recommend them? I have heard only little things about them and finally > found the CD for under $18.+ Yes, and yes. They've a few overlapping influences with B&S. But you should also (or maybe more importantly) check out the Field Mice retrospective reissue that's coming out next month. I suppose it's a lot more B&S-like, but still not all that much like them. Still wonderful of course. Of course that will be very pricey, so I read. Anyway, it all comes very highly recommended by me and a lot of other people, so buy it, and if you don't like it you can surely sell it easily. Bassler wrote: > OK, take the song "The Boy With the Arab Strap", remove the "swing" > beat, add straight-ahead 4/4 drums (w/ plenty of ride cymbal), droning > organ, the occasional bubbly Moog, a couple of well-placed harmonies, > and me thinks you've got a pretty great idea for a perfect Stereolab > cover. Or you could just listen to the session version of "Sleep the Clock Around," which is highly droney, analogue synthy, and very Stereolabby. It really doesn't even require you adding anything. At least, I thought so. I still don't like the way the album version (of Sleep...) came out quite as well. Not as intense, even though it does have that bagpipe =) /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at oak.cats.ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erinlew at xxx.com Thu Oct 1 03:25:38 1998 From: erinlew at xxx.com (Erin Lewis) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 19:25:38 PDT Subject: Sinister: oh white horses, pretty white horses, let me ride away... Message-ID: <19981001022539.15052.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey kids! The "White Horses" song Joe Frese mentioned in his post was originally recorded by the Trash Can Sinatras as a b-side from the "Cake" era (circa 1990). It's a really great song, and it has no female vocal, so I can only assume Joe's tape features Isobel doing a cover. Can anyone confirm this? In a semi-related note, TCS are one of the few bands that have b-sides like B&S - you could fill a whole tape with them, and not be disgusted. In fact, the first thing I thought of when I heard "Simple Things" was that it was perfect so short - just like TCS' "Houseproud" and some other band's "Please, Please, Please Let Me Get What I Want". If you want to complain about how short Simple Things and Summer Wasting are, hit the repeat button. Works every time. :) Who's up for the Monday poem? Oh yeah, when is Honeypaul getting back? I miss his discipline. -Miss Erin P.S. Hypothetically speaking, if I show up in Manchester around December 28-January 10, do I get a picnic thrown in my honor? I say yes. You say...? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mwsnyder at xxx.edu Thu Oct 1 03:33:34 1998 From: mwsnyder at xxx.edu (matthew william snyder) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 22:33:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: stunned. just stunned. Message-ID: <199810010233.WAA28329@red.seas.upenn.edu> i just heard belle and sebastian on the radio for the first time in the U.S. i know this is old hat for you U.K. lot, but honestly, i *never* expected to hear them in the good old united states. they played "is it wicked...?" and the best part about it was that they didn't talk over the end of the song the way they usually do here. after they played the song, they announced the concert at the trocadero (in philadelphia), and said something stupid about it like "the smile event of the season" or something. for any philly listees, the station was WXPN. in other news, my friend julie and i have planned a philadelphia b&s pre-show party about which i have posted info on the jeepster meet-up news section thingie that mr. kitchen recently added. anyone interested should check there for directions/contact info. -matthew +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Thu Oct 1 07:07:01 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 23:07:01 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Pro-nun-ci-a-tee-enn Message-ID: <00b801bded01$b6288160$319fcdcf@brier> Do you say "Belle & Se-bas-CHIN", or "Belle & Se-bas-TEE-ENN" as Stuart does in the eponymous track? It's important for Haiku work, knowing if it's three syllables or four. Poo-et needs to know. Merci. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Oct 1 09:59:53 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:59:53 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Giant Leap for Mankind Message-ID: <01bded19$db509aa0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> McTiggerty Taggart caused me to have a terrible list nightmare with this statement: >Keith, Bez and I are going for a curry and some bouze tonight. >Thought you'd like to know. In my dream, I had been invited to Tag's house, which was in Fenton Avenue, in Blackfordby, from whence I hail. It was dark when I arrived, and Keith was there and it was really good and we were going to go for a curry and some booze but then I realised I had forgotten my wallet and I was too embarrassed to say anything even though I kenw one of them would have leant me some dosh (probably Keith) so I kept quiet and then we went out and it was getting to be too late so I went to the car to see if I'd left my wallet in my small suitcase (from Herzog by Saul Bellow) but it wasn't there, like I knew all along, the only thing I had was some soul singer or other's greatest hits (i'm sorry, I've forgotten who it was, damn!) and I knew that it wouldn't do as a form of payment so I was really in an embarrassing situation and then I woke up, thank goodness! Sorry about that, but I thought that perhaps Keith and Tag would like to know what they're like in my dreams. Scary, despite their niceness. Beofre I disappear into the night on my trusty steed, a word of congratulations for anyone on the list who was listening to Mudhoney in 1992. Such resilience and loyalty is rare, especially in the world of pop. I think most people deserted them after their first mini-album, Superfuzz Migmuff, in about 1988/1989. I know I did. But I do think it's safe to say that I am twice as adorable now as I was then. And it's all down to Stuart Murdoch's gently evocative songs. I saw something new today - plastic-coated pornographic magazines! Honestly! I also saw some very rude pictures of naughty ladies and even naughtier men on the cover of a video! And all I was looking for was a copy of The European. I'm still in traction. Peter PS: I've seen The Avengers. I found the teddy bears terribly amusing, and I think I spotted a quotation form Andrew Dean. Okay, it's not a very good film, but the good bits are good, and I'm sure the next one will be better if they bother making it. 5/10. We nearly went to see Dr Doolittle out of loyalty to Anne, but our loyalty to Trousers won the day. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Thu Oct 1 12:17:37 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:17:37 +0100 () Subject: Sinister: i choo choo choose you! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well, I never had a crush on a cartoon character, but I did have a huge thing for Dick from the Famous Five. Responsible yet naughty (unlike Julian) and I always imagined him (this is the great thing about people in books - your imagination has a free rein) as dark, tousled and cheeky looking, quite possibly with dimples. The name had nothing to do with it, honest. I know I'm a freak, but it's good to share these things, n'est ce pas? On Wed, 30 Sep 1998, Madame Cholet wrote: > > >umm well... i love ralph wiggum from the simpsons... i wish that _he_ > >were my boyfriend... he is great! though this is probably not normal and i > >have had many people ridicule me for this... and so now probably many more > >people > >will... > >ive said too much... > >allison > > > Well ...when I was a kid, I had a crush on Mark and Princess from Battle Of > the Planets, as well as Scooby Doo and Bugs Bunny. Now..i've moved on. > > I fancy Dexter. He's soooooo smart. And is it just me, or does the kid in > The Nightmare Before Christmas (the little blond one with the pointy nose > who gets the shrunken head for Xmas) look JUST like STUART MURDOCH?? He > does! Honest! So I guess I fancy him too. But not as much as Dexter. And > that kid who's got the pet Newt is pretty cute as well. Newton? And > Ralphie's pretty cute, but if you kissed him his breath would taste of > paste and knobs and things. And Wellington Womble's not a cartoon > character, but I sure do fancy that little Womble something fierce..but I > have a real one, so haha. And he's still ever-so-rather-shy. > > Maybe I have a problem. > > > beth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andrew.dean at xxx.uk Thu Oct 1 13:52:34 1998 From: andrew.dean at xxx.uk (Andrew Dean) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 13:52:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: re: white horses Message-ID: <36137B12.CCFE3890@bull.co.uk> >Sinister: oh white horses, pretty white horses, let me >ride away... >Erin Lewis (erinlew at hotmail.com) >Wed, 30 Sep 1998 19:25:38 PDT >The "White Horses" song Joe Frese mentioned in his post was originally >recorded by the Trash Can Sinatras as a b-side from the "Cake" era >(circa 1990). It's a really great song, and it has no female vocal, so >I can only assume Joe's tape features Isobel doing a cover. Can anyone >confirm this? no, but i can deny it. unless the trash can sinatra's single fell through some kinda of space wormhole thing theirs is a cover. Jackie (a french bird) sang the original and it was the theme tune to a kid's tv program that used to air on saturday mornings here in england in the vein of 'flashing blade' or 'heidi' (ie a many-parted serial dubbed rather badly into english). it even made it into the charts in the year it was released (which was late 60s. my copy was taken from one of those tv theme tune lps which i bought solely for the white horses track after looking for it for years). the only other thing of note that she recorded was the theme tune to rupert the bear, later covered by lush, of course. the other track that was mentioned, the other version of dog on wheels with the "backward sample on the end", was actually the same version as the one that was released just badly recorded off the peel show when he played it a few weeks before the official release. there's probably a bit of the following track tacked onto the end is all. and i should know - it was me that taped it many moons ago (over two years now). i'd always thought that white horses would be a great thing for them to cover seeing as it already has many of the things that make a b&s song a b&s song (those trumpets, sigh). the exact same track pops up on a tape that THE stu m did for the poetry cafe some time later. so here's hoping 8) oh, all this is in the archives btw. along with the answer to this week's asking of the 'is that a reference to johnny marr?' question. oh, and one last thing, can everybody turn off the bloody HTML thing so that their messages are readable to people using the archives? in netscape it's edit->preferences->mail & groups->messages, the top box there. thankyou. xxx 2 (8B andy and isn't it 'oN white horses, SNOWY white horses, let me ride away'? two words to add to the cartoon characters thread: "betty" and "rubble" trembling blue stars? there are sound samples on the web somewhere in australia, er, http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~rjh/fm/ at the bottom of the discography. but only samples from the first tbs cd which, to my mind, is the better of the two. oh, btw possum, it was Ned who has the newt. homina homina homina... xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Thu Oct 1 13:41:19 1998 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 05:41:19 PDT Subject: Sinister: the captain's peg is whittled right down to a splinter Message-ID: <19981001124119.25561.qmail@hotmail.com> Ummmm..... I guess I wrote my letter, which is receiving such a near-anaphylactic response, when I was feeling insulted, and sort of angry, and maybe my response wasn't the best but I thought a response was demanded. The only thing my letter was really asking was how transient do we think our affinity for Belle and Sebastian sort of is, because I was as rabid a Bob Mould fan as there ever was and I just- couldn't bring myself to go to his show (with the Archers of Loaf, no less) last night. I wanted to cry when I heard parts of his new album, and not tears of joy, either. Susannah- you're lucky, nobody whom I hang around with looks like they could be in any band except for perhaps a local Air-Supply cover band. Please... though... people.... stop calling for me to just leave the list. It's very, very insulting. I'm not sending you advertisements or even, I think, irrelevancies. If you despise me and everything that I think, well, just block me or delete my messages without reading them and, I promise, I will send fewer of them. Thanks. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Thu Oct 1 13:37:37 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:37:37 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Madchester Meet up / Remember you're a womble Message-ID: <01BDED40.A7956E80@keith@qss.co.uk> > P.S. Hypodermically speaking, if I show up in Madchester around December > 28-January 10, do I get a picnic thrown in my honour? I say yes. Our > survey says...? You might be in Luck there as that's probably when it's going to happen, me and Tag completely forgot to speak about it the other night, but Manchester just after New Year sounds like it's going to be the time that keeps the most people happy. I'm gonna phone Tag and discuss it with him tonight perhaps and hopefully we'll get something concrete arranged for the meet up so's that the people who are wanting to come along can... Just to point out to the new folks as well that this isn't a meet up of people who've already met, just a general meet up for the list and everyone's welcome, indeed most people haven't met in any case, so you're no worse off. Also Mr.MILLER, I had trouble even getting as far as listening to Superfuzz Bigchuff back in those days, never really liked mega shouty stuff in the past, much as I have tried to see what it's all about, it's never really happened too much. Although I do like the one on "Bug" by Dinosaur Jr. which basically has J.Mascis going "Waarrrararrhhhhgggh Warhrgrrrgrggrhgrgrh.... WAarrrrrrrrgh" all the way through it, I also like it in "Holy Ghost" by the happy mondays where it sounds like Shaun Ryder is shouting across to the bar trying to get his mates attention all the way through - a bit like "3 pints of lager and a packet of crisps please". Seb, I don't know what to say in that situation, although your touching plea for something to say has left me somewhat sad - it was like listening to Our Tune all over again. I've been trying to think of something, but I don't know what... sorry. Calumn wrote : And, at the risk of getting flamed, the whole "ethnic/black music" debate's been done to death soooooo many times, it gets on my nerves every time. Music's music. Regardless. Some is Good. Some is Bad. Some is Korn (sorry!) but it's never been a colour. At least, not without some serious psychadelics. I seem to remember that the guitar part to "D'ya make her" by Led Zeppelin was blue, once.... Calumn, as every good scientist knows - black is not a colour anyway, it's merely an absence of colour. But jokes aside you're right, it has been done to death and always brings up the same old shite - "You're a racist", "No I'm not", "Yes you are, you said black", "It's only a word" etc. etc. Pity that's not what the original postings were about anyway. Beth - you fancy the Wombles! That's handy cause I believe there's a bit of a wombling renaissance going on at the moment with them on the telly now so I'm told and that Remember you're a womble song being in the hit parade. Nice to see the current Government actually getting to grips with the litter problem. On that note, has anyone in the UK noticed of late that there's really got to be more than one Tony Blair? I've just watched the news, and he was all over the bloody place, like all over the world - seemingly at once. Cloning must've come on in leaps and bounds. Cheers, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From michaela.clarke at xxx.com Thu Oct 1 14:59:30 1998 From: michaela.clarke at xxx.com (Michaela Clarke +44 (131) 343 5940) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 14:59:30 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: yet another stalker decides to make themselves known Message-ID: <2930591401101998/A19444/MULL/11CA0BBB1D00*@MHS> hello, I've been skulking around in the dark alleyways of first the "list" and then the digest for a we while now and so have decided to make everyone's acquaintance. hello having just moved from the glorious emerald city of dreams that is Glasgow to the nasty poo hole that is Edinburgh, I was wondering if anyone out there would be willing to prove me wrong on that point. assuming 'cos you are a B&S fan you are a nice person (naive ?) is there anybody on the list from Edinburgh that fancies a couple of bevies with a couple of ex adopted 'wegies ? sad that I am K'la and the horse +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From WarranderJ at xxx.uk Thu Oct 1 15:25:35 1998 From: WarranderJ at xxx.uk (Warrander John - FML) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:25:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Watson's wobble and they do fall down Message-ID: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B0036CDF6@gateway.finnigan.co.uk> > >> P.S. Hypodermically speaking, if I shoot-up in Madchester > > We'll have none of that nonsense down here Mr Watson. What d'you think > Manchester is? Edinburgh? If you're intent on having a literally > sinister time though, we can all chip in and buy you a gun. There > hasn't been a shooting in Moss Side for ages. > > Andrew Dean said this... > > >Jackie (a > >french bird) sang the original and it was the theme tune to a kid's > tv > >program that used to air on saturday mornings here in england in the > >vein of 'flashing blade' or 'heidi' (ie a many-parted serial dubbed > >rather badly into english). > > I thought she was a posh English bird that talked French sometimes. A > bit like that Petula Clark. She even had hair a bit like Pet, except > Jackie was ten times cooler. > > and then he said this too... > > >it even made it into the charts in the year > >it was released (which was late 60s. my copy was taken from one of > those > >tv theme tune lps which i bought solely for the white horses track > after > >looking for it for years). the only other thing of note that she > >recorded was the theme tune to rupert the bear, later covered by > lush, > >of course. > > She does another great song called 'We're off and running' and she was > responsible for the classic 'The town I live in' which is one of the > highlights of British (erm, maybe European?) girl pop in the 60s. She > may also be the Jackie in Jackie and the Raindrops who did some good > singles in the 60s too. But I might just have made that bit up. > > The only person I've ever met who didn't love 'White Horses' was Tag's > estranged lodger Julian who just happens to be the DJ at Smile. If > everyone meets up in Manchester we could all go along and ask him for > it, repeatedly. He doesn't like that and goes purple and gets very > angry. He may even beat someone up, which is a highly entertaining > spectacle - apparently! > > Well, think about it, > Love...John > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Thu Oct 1 16:28:41 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 11:28:41 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Athens tickets help Message-ID: <36139FA6.8BF68CAC@bigfoot.com> I've been checking the Jeepster site religiously, and reading every digest, but still no answer to this question: How can I order tickets for the Athens show with a credit card? Do I call the 40 Watt or do I call Wuxtry (or what is the other record store there...Big Top or something?). I'm beginning to get a little worried that it'll sell out. So if anyone has any info on how I can order those tickets by phone, I'd really appreciate it. By the way, on the subject of song comparisons, has anyone noticed that "Is It Wicked Not to Care?" is an almost note-for-note re-make of "Is It Wicked Not to Care"? It's spooky. Oh, and Susannah: tell your overly weight conscious friend to shove it. Bigger is better...just stay healthy. And I promise, watercress is no way to enjoy life, out of the bag or on a plate. Dribbling spit tonight, Reid +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sberkeley at xxx.com Thu Oct 1 14:26:56 1998 From: sberkeley at xxx.com (sberkeley at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 98 08:26:56 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Supper Club 21+???? Message-ID: <9810019072.AA907255838@ccm.frontiercorp.com> Hi, Does anyone know if the Supper Club is 16+ or 18+ or 21+ because when I called them they said... OH! I'm just joking really! Sorry Anastasia... Regards, -Shamus +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ooon at xxx.th Thu Oct 1 17:22:27 1998 From: ooon at xxx.th (oon) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 23:22:27 +0700 Subject: Sinister: ...and i will frame this moment in time Message-ID: <3613AC43.7A64@samart.co.th> :) may I use the sinister public service annoucement to send my warmest regards to _everyone_ I had the pleasure to meet, however briefly and not so briefly, during my holiday in UK... THANK YOU FOR BEING SO HORRIBLY NICE NICE NICE AND NICE (I have limited vocabulary) your niceness equals the goodness of the band themselves. I had as much fun in your company as I had seeing them play. the best 2 weeks holiday ever by all means. so many memorable moments my sieve/brain is trying best to hold on to. my first sinister picnic up on lovely summery Greenwich hill. sorry for not bringing anything! will make it up next time if I ever get the chance. I kept eating PamÂ’s carrot sticks, very good for jetlag! seeing B&S for the first time in Glasgow. Although Monday night I was too sleepy to actually feel too excited, I still think theyÂ’re amazing! but Tuesday night is absolutely my favourite. To hear all those wonderful songs playing right there before my eyes is just too good to be true. the band were even so likable as a person. they looked great and very charming! I have no complain with any of the shows. they've made effort to play well and did play very very well. i very much appreciated it. They worth every bloody second of 32 bloody hours I had to spent in the plane. Period. Still I have a few regrets. one is not getting to meet Mister Miller. (I know youÂ’re not in UK but regret is not about being realistic) two, not getting to meet many people I hoped to meet or either getting to meet them but couldnÂ’t remember how to speak english due to various reasons. Three, not having a video camera to tape the dancing scene in b&s afterschool disco. Those were the sight for sore eyes indeed. Keith, you and Emma can easily audition for an indie version of 2 UNLIMITED, with that air guitar, fame and fortune is in the bag. Also, my profound gratitute to Unkle Trousers (and his famous unstrapped piece of art) for being such a great host throughout. And to the divine (and tiny) Miss Julia & Chris the Incredible String Boy, whose beautiful map of Glasgow record shops I shall keep for life. His and Her Royal Newtness Honey and Linda, for whom IÂ’m more than honoured to be of fanning service. To the Angelic Susannah and Baby Mick, thanks for the guestlist! I promise IÂ’ll brag about it till my dying day. Since my computer has just come back home, with thousand of your mails to read, please accept my apologies if you happened to email me in the past few weeks and I still not write back. I will when I find your mail! Lots of love, oon xxx -thing that mkes me sigh a few hundred times today (I sigh instead of breathing sometimes) - that song ‘groovinÂ’ with youÂ’ by The Gentle People off the compi cd ‘real ibizaÂ’. any dj out there? can I request this song and dedicate it to the lovely list people please? :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Thu Oct 1 17:31:22 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:31:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Is Siouxie (if thats how you spell it?) Sioux's real name Norma? In-Reply-To: <000101bdebf5$c6d7fac0$8f0f93c3@whelan> Message-ID: Hi my sinisterites... Hehe, that reminds me of vitalite...heheh....soon I'l start imanging various list members in nothing but vitalite.....cor!!! Except I don't like vitalite really.... Hheheehehe - Corpereca Arancea (it's a good enough guess) - yes, isn't susannah lucky to have a boyfrend who looks like ee's in B&S! he even wears golfing trousers to 'play the part right', as opposed to my boyfriend, who just mis-heard what I was saying, and 'plays his *cards* right', and dresses up like one of those glamourous laydeez who turns the cards over on Play Your Cards Right with bruce forsyth. Hmmm. It wouldn't be so bad, but the blue eyeshadow just is not flatttering.... (oh well, I get the joke in my own head...) Ahem, gary wrote - >Or the Wirral Peninsula to give it it's proper title..... I have great >confidence that Mr Mitchell will back me up on this one. 87) Ah, but Princess Honey Mitchell is away on sabbatical somewhere in Bitter Orange tea land, dreaming of flower fairies and being fed grapes... ah yes, the many joys of the Wirral Peninsula, one.... urrr... well, um..... I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Candarel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From leggattn at xxx.edu Thu Oct 1 17:58:24 1998 From: leggattn at xxx.edu (N Leggatt) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: take the only twee that's left and Message-ID: i used the term twee to describe b & s, and it wasn't in a precisely complimentary context to be sure but i certainly didn't mean it to be derogatory. so sorry if anyone was offended. given the state of musical mayhem out there you can never be _overly_ precious or nice, so says us all. great snakes and blistering barnacles. the new spin magazine review of bstwat (sans picture) has "the sizable email list of belle cultists... agoggle at the omissions" (not enough stuart murdoch, too much of everyone else). i don't find this to be the case. journalists write whatever they feel like. joss the fax. up for 26 hrs, N __ "All the radios agree with all the TVs And all the magazines agree with all the radios And I keep hearing that same damn song Everywhere I go" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TWidmer at xxx.com Thu Oct 1 18:20:27 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:20:27 -0700 Subject: Sinister: "it's the only time I've used me maracas violently." - Bez. Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF032ACBC5@amerwksnt01.xil.com> Has anybody mentioned it is Chris Geddesseses' birthday tomorrow??? Yesyes, you sexy sinisterines drooling over the album cover should snap to it, if you want to show your man some lovin'. Word on the street is that a pair of big, bad *FLARES* wouldn't go amiss. <> I hope this works out as I too, will be in England the same time as Erin will (hypothetically?) be. Anyone in London or Manc area who would be interested in playing tour guide for a young Californian girl let me know, okay? Imagine that, you can finally have a face to put to someone who only posts occasionally and writes nothing clever or interesting when she does!! wow. Belle and Sebastian were on "Saturday Night Live" in my dream, they were banging away at their instruments like the foo fighters do, and Stuart was leaping off the monitors Damon Albarn-stylee, and they had some black guys riding Vespas circling the stage. This is a nightmare maybe? dream interpreters? right then, i'll just get me fake fur coat...again... Tata, tara +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kellym at xxx.com Thu Oct 1 19:53:51 1998 From: kellym at xxx.com (Kelly McGuire) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 10:53:51 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian Press Kit Message-ID: <199810011757.KAA19382@macbeth.ienet.com> Hey kid-os. I got the new B+S Press Kit from Matador, just thought I'd type up some of the nifty quotes in it. This is all probably repetitive and droll, but hey, that's me... "Belle and Sebastian are the new kings of the kind of teen-innocence porn that make indie-rock fans cry 'mama.'" -Rolling Stone, September 17, 1998 "Introspective and introverted, deeply artful and fiercely protective of their art, these young Scots inspire the sort of irrational devotion you'd think only lapsed Smith fans could muster--and, in most cases, you'd be exactly right." "These fledgling charms, not to mention the band's stubbornly winsome image (their web site currently boasts a coloring contest, for fuck's sake), ...." -Village Voice, September, 15, 1998 Well, the rest is just really old stuff, but I figured someone might appreciate these bits of humor. Alright, cheers. -Kelly Ryan McGuire kellym at raygun.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Oct 1 19:14:17 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 20:14:17 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Say It Loud! Message-ID: <01bded67$4d6019c0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> I'm sure I speak for all of us when I say that it is a great relief to see that Yul Brynner has finally unhanded Ooon's computer. That was a very nice message, Oooon, and I'm certainly proud to be one of your regrets. Chris, I hope your record shop included sites of historical interest, where there used to be record shops before they closed down. The legendary Rebel Records springs to mind. Named after the dog from "Champion the Wonder Horse", its greatest hour was an instore signing session from list flavours of the moment, Mudhoney. They were very nice chaps, so I can't say anything bad about them, even if they are a bit crap. I do like shouting though. I'm lucky enough to own a "raw mixes" CD of The Stooges. It sounds like shit. Yeh! Keith, how can you say you don't dig shouting when you are the world's leading authority (well, second leading authority) on 70s W!H!O! Mister Daltrey's plaintive WAIL is one of the shoutiest shouts of all time. Warrander John: > She does another great song called 'We're off and running' and she was > responsible for the classic 'The town I live in' which is one of the > highlights of British (erm, maybe European?) girl pop in the 60s. I'm intrigued. I tried to get "White Horses" from my sister-in-law, Lizzie Dripping, painstakingly negotiating the handing over of her entire record collection. In time added on for injuries she suddenly decided she didn't want to give Jackie away, leaving me with a cupboardful of bollocks, including "Russians" by Sting. Doh! Fluffy wote: Ah, but Princess Honey Mitchell is away on sabbatical somewhere in Bitter Orange tea land, dreaming of flower fairies and being fed grapes... Paul must be due to come back soon. How about we organise a surprise party? Here's the plan: Between now and Paul's return, no one sends in any messages at all, thus giving the impression of all the lights being turned out. Each of us chooses a suitable hiding place. I'll jump behind the settee with a handful of beautiful young ladies, Tall Git could put a lampshade on his head and stand stock still, and Trousers could sit on the mantelpiece pretending to be a wise old owl figurinette from the seventeenth century. Had owls been invented by then? Whatever. Fluffy could take the tummy out of the telly and climb inside and pretend that they're showing "Heavenly Creatures". Tim could be Kate Winslett. Anyway, when HoneyPaul and HoneyLinda walk in after a long and tiring journey, we could all simulate jumping out and shouting "SURPRISE!" by suddenly bombarding the list with endless reams of pointless drivel. Like this. All those in favour, say "aye". Susannah, I know most of the boys on this list are turned on by waiflike wispy willowy women, but some of us really go for big fat tunky pig women, so tuck in and chow down, and put that watercress where it belongs - right up your bum! Bobby Chariot PS: My money is on a Turkish cleansweep in the European club competitons this year. Mark my words... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ajax at xxx.com Thu Oct 1 19:26:24 1998 From: ajax at xxx.com (Jake Reichert) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:26:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Thursday Morning Doldrums Message-ID: <199810011826.LAA22146@atari.saturn5.com> Although I guess for most of you it's Thursday evening doldrums around now. Just thought I'd pop in and say howdy. I joined the list a scant two days after picking up my first B&S album (that being about a week ago). It has, through some means or other, gotten stuck in my cd player, playing over and over, against my will (err, or something like that). Hee hee. They give me butterflies in my stomach. Really. Not many bands do that. So what can I say about me, for any interested parties out there. Well, the important things are that my name is Jake (I'll go by mrjake to avoid any Jake-confusion on the list), I live in San Francisco, work in the music/computer industry, and have the correct number of limbs. And now for the laundry list of exciting stuff: -My favorite band is His Name Is Alive -I was an obsessive Smiths fan back in high school (bet I wasn't the only one) -I own a number of baggy pants -I have a groovy apartment and a Roland JP-8000 to keep me occupied -My cd collection is growing out of control. At last count, we were around 600 (what can I do to stop this????) -I love cheese -I wish my landlord would let me have a cat -I can make balloon animals -I need to start doing music reviews again -I'm related to a Zulu Prince (really) -My mother saw Jimi Hendrix and the Beatles -Favorite non-B&S bands I've found recently: Komeda, Faust and Fuxa -I'm jealous of all the UK listees because of their access to better cheese -I'm obsessed with monkeys -I really hope the Trash Can Sinatras put out another album soon -Did I mention the cheese part? Hmmm... that's about all I can think of. Also just wanted to remark that the people here seem a good deal friendlier than other lists I'm on (though the 4AD list has calmed down a bit in recent years...). Any other San Franciscans around, or am I the sole delegate to the list? In any case, it's nice to see mailing list where people aren't as rigid about what constitutes on- and off-topic discussions. Hell, how much fun can a mailing list be if you don't really know anyone on it? TTFN, mrjake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ya8102 at xxx.uk Thu Oct 1 20:00:32 1998 From: ya8102 at xxx.uk (Y Arefin, Law 98) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 20:00:32 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Rory's and Linda's Message-ID: dearie me. i was going to write before to say how lovely yous lot were at rory's and linda's place last sat night before, but i ve been at uni for five days now and ive not been sober for at least eight. and i'm lazy. Rory: i tried sending tis directly , but it says you email address didn't work. and farrah (best friend) wants to know what you did with her chockie fudge cake, if it was TASTY, or if she should have made some of her legendary killer chocolate brownies, oh and she also wants to know if she's a star too. it was really cool by the way, i had the best time, especially doing those drunken renditions of Judy and the dream of horses. oh yes. Stuart, babe, eat your heart out. heehee.oh, and is it alright to get a copy of that gig, hey, if you do, I'LL make EVEN tastier chocolate fudge chocolate chip brownies. anyways here im at 8A, 4 Elton rd, clifton, bristol, BS8 1SJ, but i promise either way, i'll send you a tape. honest, guv. anyways, later, alligators, Yaz/Yasmin ---------------------- ya8102 at bristol.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mdellima at xxx.com Thu Oct 1 20:12:36 1998 From: mdellima at xxx.com (mark del lima) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:12:36 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Re:Thursday Morning Doldrums: fellow San Franciscans Message-ID: <199810011905.MAA31536@scv2.apple.com> i understand. i am busily trying to keep my full-blown obsession with this silly band under control. it seems unnacceptable that they won't be on the west coast until next year. also, to make matters worse, i will be in boston next week, missing their show by one week. other scottish gems: mogwai any other fans? mark. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From terri_wise at xxx.com Thu Oct 1 20:23:09 1998 From: terri_wise at xxx.com (Wise, Terri) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:23:09 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Re:Thursday Morning Doldrums: fellow San Franciscan s Message-ID: <199810011923.AA13746@interlock.mgh.com> I will be at that Boston show, and I'll be sure to give a report. Does anyone know of the real venue for this show? I read something about a photo center, and I'm well confused! Terri Wise Editorial Assistant McGraw-Hill College (617) 867-9805 Fax (617) 375-2285 -----Original Message----- From: mark del lima [SMTP:mdellima at xxx.com] Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 3:13 PM To: Jake Reichert; sinister at majordomo.net Subject: Sinister: Re:Thursday Morning Doldrums: fellow San Franciscans i understand. i am busily trying to keep my full-blown obsession with this silly band under control. it seems unnacceptable that they won't be on the west coast until next year. also, to make matters worse, i will be in boston next week, missing their show by one week. other scottish gems: mogwai any other fans? mark. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Thu Oct 1 20:31:30 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 19:31:30 GMT Subject: Sinister: Viagra falls Message-ID: <3613cf9d.36402397@post.demon.co.uk> Hello, I'm still waiting for Keef to call me to discuss the Sinister Soul Weekender, and he hasn't. Hopefully he'll sing France Gall songs down the line like he did last time. I'd never been serenaded in such a way before, and I'm not ashamed to say that it moved me to tears. Mister Jake wrote: >I love cheese So do I. Which reminds me of an interesting piece in the Guardian the other week which said (and I quote): "A pregnancy boom on the Hebridean island of Islay is being attributed to the relaunch of the local Dunlop cheese, which was once banned in Italy because of its supposed aphrodisiac qualities". It certainly sounds more fun than Viagra. Tag Senior, who fathered me, is from Islay. Mere coincidence? Dandy Warrender, Don wrote: >(Jackie) does another great song called 'We're off and running' and she was >responsible for the classic 'The town I live in' which is one of the >highlights of British (erm, maybe European?) girl pop in the 60s. It pains me to say this, but John is right. You wouldn't believe that someone singing the line "et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera" could be gooseflesh inducing, but it is. Do any Glaswegians know anything about a girl group night in Glasgow next week? In an ex-RAF serviceman's club apparently, with model aeroplanes hanging from the ceiling. I'd like to go, but I hope it's better than a girl group night I Dj'ed at in Manchester a while back where the organiser harangued me to play Denim for two hours. >The only person I've ever met who didn't love 'White Horses' was Tag's >estranged lodger Julian who just happens to be the DJ at Smile. For a horrible moment, I thought that said "estranged todger". It's bad enough Trousers talking about my "chopper" last week, but I implying that I've somehow become removed from the old chap is a new definition of the word libel. >If everyone meets up in Manchester we could all go along and ask him for >it, repeatedly. He doesn't like that and goes purple and gets very >angry. He may even beat someone up, which is a highly entertaining >spectacle - apparently! I must admit, much as I deplore physical violence, the idea of a DJ punching someone, then rushing to the decks to cue up the next record, before going back to punch the victim a second time is a truly spectacular image. Isn't Ooon lovely? Love tag xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Thu Oct 1 20:48:21 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 20:48:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: And then there were 2 Message-ID: <199810011947.UAA03576@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Hi mrjake. I'm Jake. I suppose in a group of about 700 people, the chances are that there will be 2 of us. It just feels a bit strange, i don't know anyone else called Jake. Anyway I thought that I would rise up from the depths of the archives to settle the confusion, if there was any from the people on the list. Its mrjake from USA and Jake from England. See it's easy. Anyone want to join my B&S fantasy tribute band (ie we don't actually have any musical instruments, so we don't play, or necessarily meet). I'm going to call the band BILL AND SIR BASTEON, and I was wanting members from as many countries as possible, especially non english speaking ones (so I want Marco and Phillippe as my first members). I will update the list regularly to our progress. See ya Jake (Kenny) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Thu Oct 1 21:15:10 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:15:10 EDT Subject: Sinister: Re: kisses are a better fate than wisdom Message-ID: <358fe39.3613e2ce@aol.com> Hi poptarts, Susannah wrote: <> Rubbish! He looks like the Geo-physicist from channel 4's Time Team as we all well know. Check the archives! :-) Michaela wrote: <> Somebody, please warn her what she's in for!!! Oh well. See you in the flowerbed, Michaela. Then Shamus wrote: <> sorry about that, I was just taking in the full implications of what you just said. Want to come and live in London for a bit, Shamus? Drink the clock around! Fantastic! Funkyseb wrote: <> Thank you all so much for all your suggestions, and beautiful poems, and needlessly nice comments. I've tried to reply personally to as many people as I can, but I'm knackered now, and it's time for EastEnders, so I've admitted defeat. So accept this as a huge hug from me. I bumped into the boy sebastian today, and he said... oh ok, I posted the little parcel today and it's winging its way to C******ne as we speak. In the end I went for a line from Simple Things. See if you can guess which one, next time you listen to it. There aren't many. As I pushed the parcel through the grill, the young postmistress read my inscription, looked at me, and blushed. I get the feeling she recognised it. To whoever pointed out (quite rightly) that sending little tapes to people you fancy is the epitome of sadness, fair enough. But I think B&S are an exception to the rule, don't you? Well, I hope they are. If someone can't be converted by struan's voice, then I think they're doomed to a life of Ford Fiestas, cheap fucks and ben sherman shirts. And good riddance to them. No, I don't think she'll find it sad and scary, but I see your point. Nice funny letter, thanks. And thanks to JohnnyJ for the gorgeous subject line. Wow, what tender people you all are. A credit to the band. Maybe Honey should start a Sinister Dating Agency. Where are you Honey? Please come home, my pants need washing. seb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cchaffin at xxx.org Thu Oct 1 21:31:39 1998 From: cchaffin at xxx.org (Christa Chaffinch) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 16:31:39 -0400 Subject: Sinister: sinister dating service!!?? Message-ID: Well that is one of the loveliest ideas I've heard in a while. I would love to see what could come out of that! The shyness, the blushing, the quoting of lyrics, picnics and cardigans in the autumn... I love it! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kimpostor at xxx.com Thu Oct 1 22:24:36 1998 From: kimpostor at xxx.com (Kimberly Forrette) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:24:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: come with me and you'll be in a world of pure imagination Message-ID: <19981001212436.5353.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> you're not wicked if you don't care about this, but it IS something interesting, in a weird way... i was out last night, painting the town red, (not a very flattering color for a pale town like Santa Cruz) when i needed to stop at the nearest ATM machine to get cash. as i stepped up to make my withdrawal, what to my wandering eyes should appear on the machine's sickly green LED display but: "...so shines a good deed in a weary world." -Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory followed by all those nice things like "Please insert your card for service." isn't it nice to know that Willy's Whimpering Wishy-Washy Words of Wisdom didn't fall on deaf ears all those years ago? some horrible northern California stoner bank manager actually keeps it on his ATM's machine display for all passers-by and patrons to see. that made me get a warm fuzzy right here (point to throat). 33 days and counting til B*S are in Philly. i'll see you there. get siked. vermiciously, kim _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Fri Oct 2 00:10:17 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 00:10:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: RE: sinister-digest V2 #385 In-Reply-To: <199810011758.SAA09937@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000001bded90$a72a9060$490f93c3@whelan> Sarah, supplier of mashed banana to the stars wrote.... > Hheheehehe - Corpereca Arancea (it's a good enough guess) - yes, isn't > susannah lucky to have a boyfrend who looks like ee's in B&S! he even > wears golfing trousers to 'play the part right', as opposed to my > boyfriend, who just mis-heard what I was saying, and 'plays his *cards* > right', and dresses up like one of those glamourous laydeez who turns > the cards over on Play Your Cards Right with bruce forsyth. Hmmm. It > wouldn't be so bad, but the blue eyeshadow just is not flatttering.... hehehe, I have no idea what you're on about. 87) I have some dodgy golf trousers somewhere, I shall wear them in your honour if you like. > (oh well, I get the joke in my own head...) Where it's best kept, if you ask me. 87) > Ahem, gary wrote - > > >Or the Wirral Peninsula to give it it's proper title..... I have great > >confidence that Mr Mitchell will back me up on this one. 87) > > Ah, but Princess Honey Mitchell is away on sabbatical somewhere in > Bitter Orange tea land, dreaming of flower fairies and being fed > grapes... I know, but if he was here he would, he just loves the place you know. 87) >ah yes, the many joys of the Wirral Peninsula, one.... urrr... > well, um..... That would be Tranmere Rovers. 87) byyyyyyyyeeeee Gary +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From susannah at xxx.net Fri Oct 2 01:00:50 1998 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 98 00:00:50 GMT Subject: Sinister: We can't go on together, with suspicious minds... Message-ID: <981002000050.n0017335.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Dear list. I have just been for a very entertaining night at the Garage seeing an Elvis lookie-likie, probably while half the list were down at the Delgados at the Union Chapel at the other end of the road. Still, Elvis held its special moments, three changes of costume, with the appearance of getting a little fatter at each time. Only, Elvis didn't play that much Elvis, more a medley from the Doors to Nirvana , all in the Elvis club-style. very entertaining, I even shouted out 'Fox in the Snow!'. Favourite moment though was the appearance of Sean Hughes, really a resident of the Garage as he is a top pop ligger. I asked him what he thought of Belle and Sebastian the other night, and he screwed up his face and said 'good band, but the sound was appalling'. Sean doesn't lie. He's a good Irish sort. Salt of the earth. And he's on telly. Oh! and my B&S lookie likie thing happened again, and not just a passing resemblance either but a full on quality Stuart Murdoch lookie likie with cheekbones an owt. I think my watercress and spinach diet has left me feeling a bit light headed as I slipped on a wet tomato on the way home. Susannah xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ajax at xxx.com Fri Oct 2 00:56:30 1998 From: ajax at xxx.com (Jake Reichert) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: We can't go on together, with suspicious minds... In-Reply-To: <981002000050.n0017335.tormentor@mail.clara.net> from "susannah" at Oct 2, 98 00:00:50 am Message-ID: <199810012356.QAA05861@atari.saturn5.com> > Only, Elvis didn't play that much Elvis, more a medley from the Doors to Nirvana > , all in the Elvis club-style. very entertaining, I even shouted out 'Fox in the > Snow!'. If anyone manages to find an elvis look-alike that _only_ plays Wire songs, please keep me informed. There's something strange going on tonight, mrjake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Fri Oct 2 09:11:34 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 09:11:34 Subject: Sinister: I am still dreaming Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981002091134.2e6f9ea4@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Jake (Kenny) wrote : >Anyone want to join my B&S fantasy tribute band (ie we don't actually have >any musical instruments, so we don't play, or necessarily meet). I'm going >to call the band BILL AND SIR BASTEON, and I was wanting members from as >many countries as possible, especially non english speaking ones (so I want >Marco and Phillippe as my first members). I will update the list regularly >to our progress. > May I consider that this so called "Phillippe" (with 2 L) is me ? If I am this lucky guy, I am pround to belong to this new band ! No doubt that I am from a non english speaking country. I have already given you proofs that my english is bad (Is this sentence a new proof?) :) I wish I could tell you everything about the gig in Strasbourg last night (Hefner/ Belle & Sebastian), but I am still in heaven now! I met Isobel after the show! I had a 15 minutes talk with her! A friend of mine told me that it was not a dream, but I dont believe him. I hope I will be able to tell you the story when I will be back on earth. Philippe, the boy with only one "L", but so lucky! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mjh18 at xxx.uk Fri Oct 2 09:39:28 1998 From: mjh18 at xxx.uk (mjh18 at xxx.uk) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:39:28 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: We can't go on together, with suspicious minds... In-Reply-To: <981002000050.n0017335.tormentor@mail.clara.net> from "susannah" at Oct 2, 98 00:00:50 am Message-ID: <2363.199810020839@owl.le.ac.uk> Susannah: > I have just been for a very entertaining night at the Garage seeing an Elvis > lookie-likie, probably while half the list were down at the Delgados at the > Union Chapel at the other end of the road. Still, Elvis held its special > moments, three changes of costume, with the appearance of getting a little > fatter at each time. How very strange ... i too was at the Garage last night, but was upstairs doing an GIG. It was good fun, tho songs about ZX Spectrums, the early 90's music scene, and losing touch with friends from school seemed to pass by most of the audience, who had in fact only just _left_ school. Bless. Did meet an Nice Chap from the PRESS tho, and we had an I AM THE BIGGEST FAN game, i.e... ME: When i saw them in Glasgow... HIM: Ah yes, that was after their first London gig where i was... ME: Mmm, well at Union Chapel... HIM: Yes, it wasn't as good as Oxford... ME: I thought so when i saw them in Colchester... HIM: I own Tigermilk and am going to see them in America. ME: THEN YOU MUST DIE! I AM THE BIGGEST FAN! RICHEY DIED FOR YOU! I can recommend this fun game for all the family. We then moved on to Jonathan Richman and all was fiiiine... Cheers, Mark +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iles at xxx.uk Fri Oct 2 10:46:08 1998 From: iles at xxx.uk (Mark Iles) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:46:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Wedding Present In-Reply-To: <199810011758.SAA09937@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: This is a bit out of date, I know, but at the Leeds gig I spotted Dave Gedge's name on the roster of people who wanted to be added to the mailing list, but didn't see him there (I'm not sure that I'd recognise him anyway). Did anyone see him? And, if so, did he look like he was having a good time or was he as miserable as you'd expect... another celebrity fan to join the ranks alongside Sean Hughes and Jarvis Cocker. Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ Mark Iles, Tel: +44 (0113) 2065042 Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Fax: +44 (0113) 2340183 Genetic Epidemiology Laboratory, Ashley Wing, Email: iles at boreas.leeds.icnet.uk St James's University Hospital, Beckett Street, Leeds, LS9 7TF U.K. ____________________________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JohnJ at xxx.com Fri Oct 2 09:40:13 1998 From: JohnJ at xxx.com (John Johnston) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:40:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: come with me and you'll be in a world of pure imagi nation Message-ID: >"...so shines a good deed in a weary world." -Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory That is a paraphrase of one of my favourite lines in the English language. I think it comes from the Merchant of Venice and it's said by Portia I believe... "Mark how this little candle throws it's beam, So shines a good deed in a naughty world". I loved that line as soon as I heard it, quoted by my hugely learned mother at some appropriate moment.[BTW Isn't great to learn things by heart - so usefull says my Ma but then she seems able to quote at will from the complete works of Milton, Shakespeare, Dickens and Trollope plus Testaments Old and New - what a dame!] And I thought - that's what I want to do with my life - to shine like a good dead in a naughty world! What a noble ambition and what delicious language. And for some reason on the way to a job interview I happened to think of that line and I promised myself that if they asked me what my ambition was or what I wanted to do I would fix them with my steeliest glare and say "To Shine Like a Good Deed in a Naughty World - oh yeah!". Did they ask? Did they 'eck. They were far more interested to see where I had worked effectively in a team situation. Anyhow I'm tired but happy this morning. I did my first improv comedy show for 4 years last night and it went really well.Hope things go well for you. Shine on JJ xx > -----Original Message----- > From: Kimberly Forrette [SMTP:kimpostor at xxx.com] > Sent: 01 October 1998 22:25 > To: sinister at majordomo.net > Subject: Sinister: come with me and you'll be in a world of pure > imagination > > > you're not wicked if you don't care about this, but it IS something > interesting, in a weird way... > > i was out last night, painting the town red, (not a very flattering > color for a pale town like Santa Cruz) when i needed to stop at the > nearest ATM machine to get cash. as i stepped up to make my > withdrawal, what to my wandering eyes should appear on the machine's > sickly green LED display but: > > "...so shines a good deed in a weary world." > -Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory > > followed by all those nice things like "Please insert your card for > service." > > isn't it nice to know that Willy's Whimpering Wishy-Washy Words of > Wisdom didn't fall on deaf ears all those years ago? some horrible > northern California stoner bank manager actually keeps it on his ATM's > machine display for all passers-by and patrons to see. > > that made me get a warm fuzzy right here (point to throat). > > 33 days and counting til B*S are in Philly. i'll see you there. get > siked. > > > vermiciously, > kim > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > -+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To > unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list > rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" > +-+ > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > -+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sburon at xxx.fr Fri Oct 2 11:51:25 1998 From: sburon at xxx.fr (Stephane Buron) Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 12:51:25 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Va va voom & meet-up in Paris Message-ID: <3614B025.6EF4@club-internet.fr> Hi list! I dont remember who talked about David Gedge this morning, but it's a good opportunity for me to ask what you've thought about the Cinerama album, 'Va Va Voom'. I find it ace, and it must be my second best album at the moment (the first one is The Boy With the arab strap, obviously...). Dont you think some of the songs could be easily compared to Belle and Sebastian ones, with all these lovely instruments (horns, pianos, violins, guitars...) ? Anyway, it's great, go and buy it immediately. Well, some Belle and Sebastian content now : we've eventually "organised" a meet-up before (and maybe after) the gig in Paris. Hopefully, David and Katrina will be there. You'll find there other listees (Philippe, Loic, Aurore, Niall, Brian...) and french popkids... As you all know, there is a page on the Jeepster site dedicated to these infos. So go and have a look at the news section on http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian You'll find there all the precisions (when, where, who, how) you might need. Looking forward to seeing you in Paris Stephane -- Visitez le Tweeclub sur http://www.chez.com/tweeclub "I had a job in an office once, I never talked to anyone..." Belle and Sebastian, Pocketbook Angel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Fri Oct 2 12:44:23 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:44:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: #386 Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7B71@COR-EXG1> Susannah wrote : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >I think my watercress and spinach diet has left me feeling a bit light headed as >I slipped on a wet tomato on the way home. I think this was just your conscience playing tricks on you, trying to remind you to keep eating rabbit food. I find the best way to get round this is to eat your lettuce, tomatoes and gherkins in the middle of a BIG FAT JUICY Half-pounder. Big Bad Bert Tag wrote : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Isn't Ooon lovely? Oh so !! And I'm only sorry that I didn't bump into her in PP after Shepherd Bush.....SORRY OON, I was being a big coward, hiding from Kevan "Gripper Stebson" Cooke. How can someone so tall be so scared ??? For anyone who wasn't there Kevan spent the whole night stealing little boys dinner money Chubby Barriot wrote : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >PS: My money is on a Turkish cleansweep in the European club competitons >this year. Mark my words... Anyone who doesn't know about f***ball but likes a bet and is thinking of following Peters tips...oh forget it !! He's spot on and I'll take your money. Oh and Peter you Mollusc, If your looking for a quick read, I can fully recommend the Adventures of Dougall - Eric Thompson, which was published recently by Bloomsbury. Jake Reichart wrote : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >I'm related to a Zulu Prince (really) Ha ! This reminds me of something hilarious that actually happened to my friend Dominic a couple of weeks ago. His father is the founder and headmaster of a school some hours outside of Lagos in Nigeria. Dominic, in February went out there to work for six months, and, contrary to the school-rules, struck up a relationship with one of the pupils...namely a son of one of the Kings of Nigeria. On his return to England Dominic was showered with gifts including a wodge of hard cash from the King for his services to the school, and decided to use the cash to get himself settled in Oxford and go back to school. Now the King, being a nice sort and all that decided to phone Dominic and try to persuade him that he wanted to return to Nigeria and continue his good work. Unfortunately Dominic was out getting shit-faced at the time of the call, and one of his house-mates answered the phone. Now it doesn't take a great deal of imagination to work out what the conversation went like, but.... KoN : Hello, could I speak to Dominic please ? HM : I'm afraid he's not in just now...can I ask who's calling ? KoN : It's the King of Nigeria. HM : Yeah right mate. KoN : No, it's the King of Nigeria. HM : *%$£ ^&*** @£$$$$ you &&****@~ &£$$. Hangs up. Whoops. Have a nice weekend Playmates. Adeweean. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MWaggner at xxx.com Fri Oct 2 13:05:25 1998 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:05:25 EDT Subject: Sinister: London Made Honey Sick Message-ID: Hi Sinisterines -- I've just gotten back from London -- lovely city I have to say, compared to New York. How do you keep it so clean? I spent 7 days in posh Mayfair, feeling a bit unworthy at times but holding my head high just the same, remembering that we did win the revolution after all, so there, ha! you poser in a Rolls Royce, get on the correct side of the road! To everyone who I was supposed to call (yes, Swan and Starry) I apologize profusely, but I left your numbers here on the computer in my fear-of-flying frenzy the day I left. Yeah, I suck, I admit it. Finally got to meet the mysterious List Princess Honey and he is indeed as lovely and regal as he seems, for all of you who have not yet had the pleasure. We had packed our tiaras but sadly the Queen did not invite us to tea after all, so we were driven to take in the earthy pleasures of Soho (no, I will NOT post the pictures of the exotic pole-dancing schoolgirls on the web page, not even if you beg), the musical offerings of various cd emporia, the fine art of sitting in the corner of a pub watching and listening to the patrons ("oh, he must live on Hill Street, number 47, in a wee town up north called Summatshire, next to the stream, you can tell by his accent"), sampling the fine cuisine (MEAT-FLAVORED CRISPS???), going to a show by the angel- voiced Kate Rusby (go on -- what is it called? take the piss? go ahead, she was gorgeous), and generally flouncing about -- despite our pain at the Queen's bad manners. Then -- after just 2 days -- a dread Mayfair virus struck the List Mistress low, and he got VERY ill and took to bed with the vapors on Saturday, unable to ring or get together with anyone. So, to everyone we were going to meet, sincere apologies -- but it was then orange juice and Tony Blair and more Tony Blair on the television. (Yep, Keith --there DOES appear to be more than one of him. I swear he was cleaning the bathroom at the flat at the exact same time he was on the television -- pretty damn Labourious if you ask me). Couldn't be helped and it was really disappointing for both of us. I was too shy to drag my American self out to meet you on my own and stuck to the anonymous crowds at Marks & Spencers -- where I found no tables to turn -- Fortnum and Mason where there were tables but I thought I might offend someone if I tried turning them, and Covent Garden where I met a gypsy flower seller (ok, she said she was a gypsy and gave me a good luck stone -- I choose to believe it), wandering and looking and shopping. JUST when I learned how to use the underground and figure out the money (why oh why are there no one pound notes??) and read the instructions painted on the street telling me which way to look so I could stop stepping off curbs in front of speeding Mercedes Benzs and getting shouted at (yeah, British reserve my ass) -- it was time to come back. I think I'll use my gypsy stone for wishing to return, because I really did love everything I saw, even if it was the "poncy south." Well... ok, honestly there were too many statues -- is there one of every citizen? I think I overlooked the ones of listees as I noted none with cardigans, walkmans nor arab straps, altho one or two could have used one. And all those arches and gateways going no place in particular -- is there an Exchequer of Let's-Put-Up-A-Useless-But-Heroic-Portal-Here or something? So list, Honey List Kitten has returned to Edinburgh for a big rest and recuperation, and won't be able to look after you for a bit. Please be big and brave and well-behaved, and mind each other's well-being. Honey won't be separating you if you get into tussles and try to hit each other with shovels in the sandbox, nor giving you the rules of the playground -- and will be disengaged from the list for a bit. If you've mailed for help or advice -- don't feel slighted by getting no reply -- please try to look it up in the FAQ, or mail someone privately who looks like they'd know how to help. There has been another influx of new little sinisterines to the list -- any doctors among you who know anything about M.E./CFIDS who can help poor wee Honey? -- so help them out if you can, bigger kids. Honey just can't reply right now and will be sticking to sorting out the cats and newts and getting well and sparkly again. If you'd like to send get well cards, flowers, pornography or lingerie, please mail me and I'll give you the address -- yes, REAL mail as opposed to e-mail -- it's nice to get surprises through the mail slot when you're ill and a bit lonely. --michele/simone PS -- Brian and Minka: don't think I didn't see those photos just because I was out of town!! Shame on you! And no, I didn't bring a camera to the UK :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Fri Oct 2 13:18:53 1998 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 05:18:53 -0700 Subject: Sinister: I met Roald Dahl! Message-ID: "...so shines a good deed in a weary world." -Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory I met the very man who bestowed such wise words upon Willy Wonka! I must have been about nine years old, he was signing books in High Wycombe and I queued for what seemed like hours. Then there he was - this seedy looking old man who I'm sure FluffySarah would have been crinkling her nose at in disgust. She can smell things beyond the sensory powers of ordinary mortals you know. He signed my copy of "Danny, Champion of the World", spelt my name wrong even though I had explained it was spelt with an A, and then I was shoved on my way. Next week: I met one of the girls out of Tight Fit! Kevan (with an A you deaf git) The Fat Slug *********************************** chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickclick.com http://www.chickmail.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From WarranderJ at xxx.uk Fri Oct 2 14:00:50 1998 From: WarranderJ at xxx.uk (Warrander John - FML) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:00:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Record collector stop tickling me Message-ID: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B0036CDF8@gateway.finnigan.co.uk> Hello Everybody, I was out last night and I popped into WHSmiths and caught a glimpse of the latest issue of Record Collector and for about the forth month running it's got an absolutely unmissable article in it. This month it's 60's French Pop and even if your not into this stuff it kind of could be a bit interesting to all you B&S heartthrobs out there who've been swooning over Isobel singing Poupee De Cire, Poupee De San live and would love to see and read a bit about the Luxembourg dynamo France Gall who was a Eurovision winner with it way back in the sixties sometime. It has some pics of Ms Gall and she really has "oh please take advantage of me horrible dirty old man" written all over her face. There's also some nice pictures of the incredibly wonderful Francoise Hardy. Scott Walker apparently thought she was THE perfect female and quite frankly, I'd have difficulty arguing with that point of view. cheerio, Love...John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Fri Oct 2 15:25:52 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 15:25:52 Subject: Sinister: Record collector stop tickling me Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981002152552.286789fe@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> John wrote : >it kind of could be >a bit interesting to all you B&S heartthrobs out there who've been >swooning over Isobel singing Poupee De Cire, Poupee De San live >and would love to see and read a bit about the Luxembourg dynamo >France Gall who was a Eurovision winner with it way back in the >sixties sometime. It has some pics of Ms Gall and she really has >"oh please take advantage of me horrible dirty old man" written all >over her face. > "Poupée de cire, poupée de son" was also the final song last night in Strasbourg. Isobel sings it perfectly! >There's also some nice pictures of the incredibly wonderful Francoise >Hardy. Scott Walker apparently thought she was THE perfect female >and quite frankly, I'd have difficulty arguing with that point of view. I agree with you. I would have prefered France Gall rather than Françoise Hardy in the sixties. Anyway, my favourite is Isobel! Philippe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Fri Oct 2 15:09:44 1998 From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:09:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: 'Allo 'allo,,, Message-ID: <00b101bdee0e$4e895da0$4429c22b@bond.broadcast> "...This state of mind explains some parties taken for the construction of this site, in particular in its presentation: not too many colors, the most sober possible presentation, not of things which flicker or which cause fireworks (which tend to make plant the a little rudimentary computers), not of meter allowing to estimate the frequentation of this site, not of commercial proposal. " Any non-French speakers can have a laugh by looking at Stephane's web site -http://www.chez.com/tweeclub - through the magical translations of AltaVista -http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate? Its even funnier if you translate stuff from English into French and then back again. Michael, the boy with too much time on his hands -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmurphy at xxx.Edu Fri Oct 2 15:09:46 1998 From: jmurphy at xxx.Edu (Jessica Murphy) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:09:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: come with me and you'll be in a world of pure imagination (fwd) Message-ID: So, OK, while we're on the subject of Willy Wonka and poetry-quote attributions, I think there's another line in the movie that comes from somewhere else... when Mr. Wonka says, "We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams." (approximately; haven't seen it in a while.) Do any of you poetry-lovers know the original source? Maybe John's mother can tell us. I don't think it's Shakespeare, but maybe something 19th century... I ran across it in the library once but I can't remember where, and it's been bothering me ever since. Pedantically, jessica m ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:40:13 +0100 From: John Johnston >"...so shines a good deed in a weary world." -Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory That is a paraphrase of one of my favourite lines in the English language. I think it comes from the Merchant of Venice and it's said by Portia I believe... "Mark how this little candle throws it's beam, So shines a good deed in a naughty world". JJ xx > -----Original Message----- > From: Kimberly Forrette [SMTP:kimpostor at xxx.com] > > you're not wicked if you don't care about this, but it IS something > interesting, in a weird way... > > i was out last night, painting the town red, (not a very flattering > color for a pale town like Santa Cruz) when i needed to stop at the > nearest ATM machine to get cash. as i stepped up to make my > withdrawal, what to my wandering eyes should appear on the machine's > sickly green LED display but: > > "...so shines a good deed in a weary world." > -Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory > > followed by all those nice things like "Please insert your card for > service." > > kim > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From padraic_fresheire at xxx.com Fri Oct 2 15:25:11 1998 From: padraic_fresheire at xxx.com (padraic doorey) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 07:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: TRENT Message-ID: <19981002142511.17125.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com> DON'T FORGET!!!!! (my friend asked me to do this): watch out for the swoonsome TRENT on "Daria", Channel5, at 11 am GMT on Sunday morning. you will be subjected to a pop quiz on monday and the prize will be a pop tape compliled by lady penelope (sans tiara). enjoy. ciao dawhlings. hope to see many of you *fabu* listees at the social tonight. *mwah* *mwah* lady penelope (salivating, on behalf of her "friend") _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Fri Oct 2 15:40:40 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:40:40 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Hello, hello, it's good to be back... In-Reply-To: <01bded67$4d6019c0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Message-ID: Back, fine and freshfaced (or more accurately s***faced most of this week) for a new term of uni. I've missed you all while I've been away... Of course I had to search the archives for my name to see if you've been talking about me (partly because I'm curious, and partly so that if Honey ever runs one of those programs you get on some search engines to see what people have been searching for I'll look really popular), and I obviously haven't been missed. Can't say I blame you. But I was suprised to find that we've gained over 200 members since I was here in August, so for the benefit of all you newbies, I'm the one who posts dull irrelevant postings like this one. I would of course happily be a lamp for Honey's suprise party, but unfortunately I'm not that bright. Oh, and a few people I met at the gigs last month seemed to think I should stop calling myself The Tall Git, so, ever the slave to public opinion, I shall now become The Artist Formerly Known As The Tall Git. Big Stu (Is that a decent enouigh moniker? I'm open to suggestions for alternatives!) PS To the person I borrowed a tenner off after the Leeds gig - you know who you are - I didn't see you in London so I'll pay it back next time I see you. Promise. :-) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From donovan at xxx.com Fri Oct 2 15:51:18 1998 From: donovan at xxx.com (donovan finn) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:51:18 -0400 Subject: Sinister: boston show Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Oct 1998 "Wise, Terri" wrote: >I will be at that Boston show, and I'll be sure to give a report. Does >anyone know of the real venue for this show? I read something about a photo >center, and I'm well confused! The Boston show is at Morse Auditorium That is inside the Photo Resource Center. That is on the BU campus. At least that's what I'm told. Micheal's nervous and the lights are bright, -donovan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ken_davis at xxx.com Fri Oct 2 17:15:47 1998 From: ken_davis at xxx.com (ken_davis at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 02 Oct 98 11:15:47 -0500 Subject: Sinister: boston show Message-ID: <9810029073.AA907341016@smtp-gw2.putnaminv.com> Morse Auditorium is at the corner of Comm. Ave. and Blandford Street on the BU campus. For a nifty map go to: http://www.bu.edu/maps/ It's building 29 Cheers Ken +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mattepi at xxx.com Fri Oct 2 16:39:23 1998 From: Mattepi at xxx.com (Mattepi at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:39:23 EDT Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe sinister (mattmachine@bigfoot.com) Message-ID: <6ebebf54.3614f3ab@aol.com> unsubscribe mattmachine at bigfoot.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sleepflower_msp at xxx.com Fri Oct 2 17:44:17 1998 From: sleepflower_msp at xxx.com (Sam Norman) Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 09:44:17 PDT Subject: Sinister: bbq made me miss the delgados Message-ID: <19981002164418.7823.qmail@hotmail.com> did anyone see the delgados last night at the union chapel. i had tickets, but because of freshers week and everything i was late and then my friend decide to stay for the bbq at college instead. so with the choice of going on my own or getting hideously drunk for the 6 night in a row on student priced drinks, i opted for the latter. did you go was it any good. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From barzy at xxx.com Fri Oct 2 17:44:43 1998 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:44:43 -0800 Subject: Sinister: club 8 Message-ID: OK, I know this doesn't "technically" have B&S content, but since great minds think alike, I thought i'd crap on about how wonderful the new Club 8 record is (on March Records)....Wow. Driving to work, here in LA..in the rain....(unless the smog is leaking again) just does something to me. I loved Club 8 when they were more tweeish, but now they're even better...with some of the lovliest female vocals i've heard in my life. It's a bit like...well...you know all of you that *nearly* like the dancy Field Mice stuff with Annemarie singing, but just can't because it's the Field Mice and just seems wrong to you? Well..it's kind of like that. If you like Ivy(NYC), They Go Boom, Shoestrings, and "Missing The Moon" type Field Mice stuff, you'll faint dead away hearing this. The CD is called "The Friend I Once Had" and fits in perfectly for those rare moments when TBWTAS has to rest. Some of it sounds a bit Dubstarish, but not as mainstream..ya know? Had a dream the other night that these rabbits had hundreds of babies (probably cause i'd just watched the Father Ted episode where Dougal has a rabbit and it has loads of babies and Bishop Brennan hates them cause he was stuck in a lift with tons of them and they started nibbling at his cape and....anyway...upon closer examination of my rabbit babies I discovered that they were infact, tiny, baby Wombles! And I was happy. beth +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From akumulator at xxx.com Fri Oct 2 19:19:39 1998 From: akumulator at xxx.com (paul dean) Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 14:19:39 EDT Subject: Sinister: Cinerama & NY Poems Message-ID: <19981002181939.16432.qmail@hotmail.com> Ftumch! I knew that I should have got tickets for Philadelphia - I hear that Cinerama will be supporting B&S - can anyone confirm? Also - along with everyone else i need 2 tickest for NY - my friend Mr Bibby is flying over from Padiham, Lancs, so it's one of you kind souls to the rescue or the evil touts i'm afraid To bolster my claim for the tickets here are my 3 favourite poems about NY by Mr Henry Normal - should get the band in the mood An Englishman in New York ------------------------- I'd like to see Beadle in the USA he wouldn't last a single day he'd play just one joke on an American bloke and they'd blow the fucker away World Trade Centre ------------------ Oh twin towers of the trade centre what a spectacular view from the 108th floor of number one you can see building number two Chelsea Hotel -------------- As a tribute to Dylan Thomas I got pissed at the Chelsea Hotel and though the food was delicious as a tribute to Sid Vicious I threw up over the doorman as well washington poem to follow nearer the date S'Later Paul. Sunday tickets preferred - don't forget about me now.... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kcooke at xxx.uk Fri Oct 2 18:18:00 1998 From: kcooke at xxx.uk (Kevan Cooke) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:18:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: A Terry Wogan moment Message-ID: As there has been some interest of late I thought I'd just let you know what I know about France Gall. France Gall sang the Serge Gainsbourg penned "Poup�e De Cire, Poup�e De Son" to win the 1965 Eurovision song contest. She was representing Luxembourg even though both she and Gainsbourg were French. A few other songs were written for her by Gainsbourg, but more were written by her dad. I bought a few of her records a while back because of the Gainsbourg connection. "1968" is the best of the albums that I've heard, perfect music for a sunny summers day. When she sings softly it is angelic, but when she belts them out it all goes a bit wrong and just sounds like she is shouting tunelessly. Unfortunately for Keith she seems to do this somewhere in the middle of most of her songs. The one song that has eluded me is of course "Poup�e De Cire, Poup�e De Son", however I have just spotted on the Eurovision web site (was that an unwise admission?) that a double CD compilation of Eurovision winning songs has been released in the Netherlands. It's published by BR Music, and the catalogue number is BS 8106-2. As well as "Poup�e De Cire, Poup�e De Son" it also features such masterpieces as "A ba ni bi", "Ding Ding-A-Dong", "Boom Bang-A-Bang", and the all-time classic "Diggy-loo Diggy-ley". With Bucks Fizz, the Brotherhood of Man, and a double dose of Johnny Logan thrown in how can you resist? Kevan The Eurovision Slug +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Fri Oct 2 20:47:27 1998 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgal) Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 12:47:27 PDT Subject: Sinister: sinister dating service!!?? Message-ID: <19981002194728.3160.qmail@hotmail.com> that's a lovely idea... I know someone I want to date...but telling wound't be any fun with it.. he's a swet guy though..I think he knows who he is aswell.. maybe I'm just making a fool out myself now.. hope to go not.. *blushing* I'm tired yeah..I know... becky. hi marcus=superape79--oops:) teehee # go and have a peek at my page it's constantly developing, http://www.angelfire.com/me/Mizzy # ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sandrad at xxx.com Fri Oct 2 20:57:36 1998 From: sandrad at xxx.com (Sandra Duric) Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 15:57:36 -0400 Subject: Sinister: re: toronto & cartoons In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981002155736.0093ea90@mail.accu-staff.com> am i the only one who oh-no'd at this info? of all the bands to open for B+S, Spooky has got to be my last pick - his comical, yodelly voice just doesn't vibe! alexandra PS - do not forget your PEZ for the Toronto show! At 03:19 PM 9/30/98 -0400, debbie.spiers at utoronto.ca wrote: > > >Someone asked who the openers were going to be for the toronto date. i >do believe that it is Spooky Ruben. I'm not completly sure. You can >check by phoning the Edge club and concert listings. The number is (416) >872-3343. or is it 870? any how, it lists it there. > >And to those discussing cartoons. My very first crush was on Mighty >Mouse. Anyone remember him? And my very second crush was on Robin in the >old Batman cartoon series. > >cheers > >deb > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Fri Oct 2 21:05:31 1998 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgal) Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 13:05:31 PDT Subject: Sinister: sinister dating service!!?? Message-ID: <19981002200532.28148.qmail@hotmail.com> did my messages dissapear somewhere or is my hotmail just slow recieving..them.. ah well it was a lovely idea hugs becka # go and have a peek at my page it's constantly developing, http://www.angelfire.com/me/Mizzy # ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Fri Oct 2 21:13:22 1998 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:13:22 -0400 Subject: Sinister: St Low Message-ID: <199810021613_MC2-5B70-73D9@compuserve.com> Hi Sinfuls, Stephane wrote: I dont remember who talked about David Gedge this morning, but it's a good opportunity for me to ask what you've thought about the Cinerama album, 'Va Va Voom'. I find it ace, and it must be my second best album at the moment (the first one is The Boy With the arab strap, obviously...). Dont you think some of the songs could be easily compared to Belle and Sebastian ones, with all these lovely instruments (horns, pianos, violins, guitars...) ? Anyway, it's great, go and buy it immediately. I second that emotion. And while you're at it, get the 7" single Anywhere/Keep An Open Mind by St. Low, (which is really Mary Lorson from Madder Rose) coz its great: strong tunes, sweet singing and surprisingly professional and emotive keyboards from Mary herself. The second track especially is real hair on end stuff. bye David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Fri Oct 2 21:57:45 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid Dossinger) Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 16:57:45 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Athens ticket plea for help Message-ID: <36153E4A.C348E309@bigfoot.com> I'm going to try this again before I spend too much time and money trying to get the same information that I KNOW someone knows: Does anyone know how someone can order tickets for the Athens show by phone? I know this may seem lazy to just post to the list, but there's no info on the Jeepster site and, yes, I've already checked the archives, and like I said, I'm sure that someone out there has gotten tickets to this show already, so if you could please mail me (although I'm sure there's some other people on the list who would like to know). Thanks, Reid +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Fri Oct 2 22:09:03 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:09:03 EDT Subject: Sinister: If wishes were horses... Message-ID: <3f608c5b.361540ef@aol.com> ....I'd have crap all over my head. Broohah popchicks! << as i stepped up to make my > withdrawal, what to my wandering eyes should appear on the machine's > sickly green LED display but: > > "...so shines a good deed in a weary world." > -Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory>> D'you think the Bank Manager had a very keen sense of irony? It's just that anyone who's read much Dahl will notice a certain distrust of money, well banks at least, in his work. Just read 'Henry Sugar'... No. It was probably just a Readers' Digest style 'thought for the day', easily memorable, but ripped totally out of context. Amusingly inappropriate though- it's like when John Major stole that passage from Orwell's 'The Lion and the Unicorn', for one of his election broadcasts, or something. It sounded great- unfortunately, he must have got it out of a book of easy quotes for speechwriters. 'cause if he'd read the whole thing, he'd have noticed that Orwell's essay's subtitle was 'Socialism and the English Genius'. Hmmm. a paul wrote: <> Good grief! Meat flavoured crisps! Jeremy Beadle! Doesn't Britain sound so sexy and alluring, hey kids? I've just had some Bacon and Brown Sauce crisps for dinner actually- they claimed to be Scottish, and they had a castle, some tartan, and even a wee Highlander on the packet, so they must have been. They were fantastic. Wash them down with Irn Bru, and you've got a whole gastronomical experience :-{ ) Aaa...nyway, has anyone volunteered/been volunteered for the monday poem yet? If not, I'd love to have a crack at it. I've a lovely bitter/sweet one about buses lined up for you- and anyone familiar with the ruthless culling of endangered routemasters will surely weep tears of loss and pity as they read it. And on a volunteering note, I volunteer to deal with all the 'unsubscribe sinister's sent to the list, if someone else wants to sort out the 'can I have a dub of Tigermilk' s and the 'can I burn it on to cd' s' and the 'can I turn my rectum into a sensurround arse-theatre and charge people to listen to Tigermilk in all its remastered digital beauty' s. Not that we get too many of the latter, of course, but it would be nice to be prepared. Play nicely children. And don't spit on the slide! seb PS- I'm shocked at the total lack of Animals that Swim on this list! So, in order to introduce you all to the glories of the best band since Belle and Sebastian, I'll throw in a little snippet of them into each post. And I'll keep doing it til you damn well like them! 'She wants to replace all the cars with horses- well fair enough. But what about all the shite?' Animals that Swim, 'London Bridge' +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From janine at xxx.com Fri Oct 2 23:26:37 1998 From: janine at xxx.com (Janine Papp) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:26:37 -0500 Subject: Sinister: sinister dating Message-ID: a word of advice about dating services... I once tried to do an "indie rock dating service" called Heartburn through my zine... and only men responded, who wanted to date women. So it didn't work out. I suppose I could have had myself quite a few dates, though... actually, no one lived near me. oh well. oh yes, album reviews for the day: I head the new Vanilla Ice record, and I swear, it sounds like Rage Against the Machine... it's hysterical. Also, I heard the new Hole record and I must say I do not like it. Also, I heard the new Cat Power record and I DO like that quite a bit. queenbeejanine +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Fri Oct 2 22:47:43 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (JJ) Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 22:47:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: If wishes were horses... References: <3f608c5b.361540ef@aol.com> Message-ID: <361549FF.395D@seahouses.u-net.com> Funkyseb at aol.com wrote: > PS- I'm shocked at the total lack of Animals that Swim on this list! I quite like 'Faded Glamour'. JJ xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TJDICKEY at xxx.com Fri Oct 2 23:30:53 1998 From: TJDICKEY at xxx.com (TJDICKEY at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:30:53 EDT Subject: Sinister: Yet another review of TBWAS Message-ID: As if this list has not been saturated with enought reviews of the new B&S album but I think I have found the one I like best. Of course I may be a little biased. It comes out of my personal favorite indie rock magazine, Puncture(if you have never checked it out, do so). They only put out an issue every four or five months and I just got the new one today. In the middle of the magazine there are many pink pages filled with some really good reviews. Most are dated by the time an issue comes out but they do touch on some of the more obscure indie bands that don't get press anywhere. And the reviews are actually quite readable. I especially like the last couple of lines of this review. It hits my own fascination with this band square on the head. It goes like this: "...but I never think of them in terms of influence or history. They're friends playing for themselves. And we can't stop listening". I certainly can't stop listening. I listened to IYAFS everyday for 6 months. I am on a similar pace with the latest release. stay gold, TD +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From monroej at xxx.com Sat Oct 3 01:44:14 1998 From: monroej at xxx.com (John F. Monroe) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:44:14 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Another Girl Another Planet ( or Sleep The Clock Around ) Message-ID: <001601bdee66$f38386c0$8a52cfa9@monroej.execpc> listening to some tracks from the recent Amsterdam Belle and Sebastian show ( 5 songs from what seems to be a live Dutch radio broadcast), I hear one of them state ' and here's Another Girl Another Planet...', i was excited for a moment, not having heard anyone mention they covered this Only Ones song Poly knows it! ). they then kick in with 'Sleep The Clock Around" and yes, now i hear it, they did rip off the intro, but that is ok. It doesn't sound so obvious on the album, but it did live, and hearing a band member say its so, makes it so :) on the Animals That Swim front - Faded Glamour is a really great song, grand and catchy. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rmckay at xxx.edu Sat Oct 3 00:13:11 1998 From: rmckay at xxx.edu (baggy trousers) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:13:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: athens for reid Message-ID: heya this is the info that i have...i thought that it wasnt possible to get them with a credit card..it certainly would have been easier for me had you been able to... in order to get the tickets you must send a money order for $12 per ticket along with a note inside stating your name and how many people will be attending with you (im not sure if you have to include their names) this will be the will-call info. the envelope should be addressed to the 40 watt club 285 w washington st athens ga 30601 belle and sebastian should be written somewhere on the outside of the envelope. the phone number is: 1-706-549-7871 i sent off for mine and they actually posted the tickets to me last week rather than having to pick them up once i got there...2 friends and i will be driving up from tampa...one of them hasnt heard belle and sebastian but is up for the road trip... hope that helped anyone roberta **oh you look so tired + "Rock'n'roll is the most brutal, mouth slack and wide + ugly, vicious form of expression - ill-housed and ill-advised + sly, lewd, in fact plain dirty..a your face is as mean as + rancid-smelling aphrodisiac..the your life has been + martial music of every delinquent crash into my arms + on the face of the earth..." i want you****** + -'jack the ripper' (morrissey) + -Frank Sinatra 1957 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Sat Oct 3 00:23:58 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:23:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: the love of my life has no lips Message-ID: no, i'm not talking about the song snake here, i'm talking about brak. oh, at first i laughed at you silly people who had crushes on daria and mighty mouse and rubarb the dog (that's keith), but then my roommate pointed out my own consuming desire for one evil alien with the mind of a 2 yr old, trapped by the wily yet overweight space ghost. i can only hope you british listees know brak, else you'll think i'm nuts. er, well, you probably will if you know him too. but he has charm, style, a rather unusual mask covering his face, and a special love of bologna sandwiches that just gives me shivers. plus he's the best punk rock singer on cartoon network today (that's beating out josie *and* jabberjaw). i've always had a thing for a crooner. so um, yeah, i need to get way more sleep. xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TFertig3 at xxx.com Sat Oct 3 00:39:23 1998 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:39:23 EDT Subject: Sinister: Chicken Factory Message-ID: <6c6006c.3615642b@aol.com> Hello everybody, I'm delighted to see Roald Dahl mentioned, as he is my all time favorite writer. Here's another lovely line to admire and contemplate: "And above all, watch with glittering eyes the whole world around you, because the greatest secrets are always hidden in the most unlikely places. Those who don't believe in magic will never find it." -- Roald Dahl And since I like quotes so much (and after all there was no Monday poem this week), here's another by a delighful poet: "I'd rather learn from one bird how to sing than teach ten thousand stars how not to dance." -- e.e. cummings More to come later. About cartoon crushes, people think I'm crazy for falling madly in love with Bart Simpson, my hero. Only a true Simpsons die-hard would understand I suppose, but he is simply the greatest kid around. Lisa's pretty neat too, and she's got the B&S connection going for her. Now that I've written something of a little interest, could I be a pain once more and mention that I need a ticket for the NY NOV 2 show? I promise that's the last time I'll ask. Well maybe. Bye bye. Tami +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From escossia at xxx.br Sat Oct 3 00:41:37 1998 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 20:41:37 -0300 Subject: Sinister: Sin with Belle et Sebastien Message-ID: <01bdee5e$32a43240$0100007f@localhost> FINALLY i am with The Boy with the Arab Strap here. I am not talking about sex, i am talking about love.....and music. Hey Belle, Hey Sebastian.... i've got you under my skin. ~~~^~^v^~^v^~^v^~^v^~v^~^v^~^v^~ Ivo A P Escossia +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From xav at xxx.uk Sat Oct 3 06:40:00 1998 From: xav at xxx.uk (Mark Crutch) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 06:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Curses to you flashing blade! Message-ID: <199810030540.GAA12896@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> Aha! A Flashing Blade reference! So I wasn't dreaming, it did exist!!! None of my friends remember the Flashing Blade (though many still have nightmares about Heidi), so I tried to sing them the theme song. Tragically I was only young when I was younger, so can't actually remember the lyrics - which results in me singing the first line loudly and proudly, then lowering my head and dribbling into my fake-eggshell pseudo-cardie as I suddenly realise that the only chance I've got of coming up with a second line, is to rearrange the first a bit, but leave the same word at the end so it kinda rhymes when I mumble. So, what I generally end up with is: "You've got to fight for what is right, and all that you believe//It's right to fight for what you want (dribbling rapidly increases at this point) and all that you believe... I know it's wrong, but at least the tune's okay - but someone help me; what were the lyrics? Oh yeah, whilst I'm writing, definitely Daphne from Scooby Doo, followed by Wilma Flintstone ("She'll never leave Fred..."). Guess I'm just a sucker for redheads - especially those framed in a silhouette of black ink. That is all. Xav -- xav at compsoc.man.ac.uk http://www.compsoc.man.ac.uk/~xav "It hath whirred into life" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Sat Oct 3 10:08:35 1998 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgal) Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 02:08:35 PDT Subject: Sinister: sinister dating service!!?? Message-ID: <19981003090836.29055.qmail@hotmail.com> well..hmm maybe it would be too revieling to tell ,a and what if he's not interested at all?? what shall I then do..go make a completely fool of myself so that he can't go laughing over me..later He's someone that..came on the sinister meetup we had...a sweet boy..who also cried on the concert standing next to me.. that's all I'll say...:) hugs becka I want to know who "he" is! I don't know either of you, I'm sure, but I like to know secrets, = especially when there is NO ONE to tell! Don't think you're making a fool of yourself you're not. And anyway, = isn't that what crushes are for? byebye Christa # go and have a peek at my page it's constantly developing, http://www.angelfire.com/me/Mizzy # ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Sat Oct 3 11:27:59 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 11:27:59 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: come with me and you'll be in a world of pure imagination (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Jessica Murphy wrote: > > > > So, OK, while we're on the subject of Willy Wonka and poetry-quote > attributions, I think there's another line in the movie that comes from > somewhere else... when Mr. Wonka says, "We are the music makers, and we > are the dreamers of dreams." (approximately; haven't seen it in a while.) > It's from a poem by Shaughnessy. Lovely it is too, though I just tried to remember the rest of it and can't. Something about sea breakers and sitting by desolate streams. Archel know-it-all :) > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:40:13 +0100 > From: John Johnston > > >"...so shines a good deed in a weary world." > -Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory > > That is a paraphrase of one of my favourite lines in the English > language. I think it comes from the Merchant of Venice and it's said by > Portia I believe... > > "Mark how this little candle throws it's beam, > So shines a good deed in a naughty world". > > JJ > xx > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kimberly Forrette [SMTP:kimpostor at xxx.com] > > > > you're not wicked if you don't care about this, but it IS something > > interesting, in a weird way... > > > > i was out last night, painting the town red, (not a very flattering > > color for a pale town like Santa Cruz) when i needed to stop at the > > nearest ATM machine to get cash. as i stepped up to make my > > withdrawal, what to my wandering eyes should appear on the machine's > > sickly green LED display but: > > > > "...so shines a good deed in a weary world." > > -Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory > > > > followed by all those nice things like "Please insert your card for > > service." > > > > kim > > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From buffalo at xxx.uk Sat Oct 3 13:23:59 1998 From: buffalo at xxx.uk (Ian Turton) Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 13:23:59 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Smoke dem References: Message-ID: <3616175F.6F64455@easynet.co.uk> Archel wrote: > On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Jessica Murphy wrote: > > > So, OK, while we're on the subject of Willy Wonka and poetry-quote > > attributions, I think there's another line in the movie that comes from > > somewhere else... when Mr. Wonka says, "We are the music makers, and we > > are the dreamers of dreams." (approximately; haven't seen it in a while.) > > > It's from a poem by Shaughnessy. Lovely it is too, though I just tried to > remember the rest of it and can't. Something about sea breakers and > sitting by desolate streams. Close: half a cigar. It's Arthur O'Shaughnessy. Here's the full palaver. It's called 'The Two Day Early Monday Poem No-One Asked Me For'. No it's not. We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. With wonderful deathless ditties We build up the world's great cities, And out of a fabulous story We fashion an empire's glory: One man with a dream, at pleasure, Shall go forth and conquer a crown; And three with a new song's measure Can trample an empire down. We, in the ages lying In the buried past of the earth, Built Nineveh with our sighing, And Babel itself with our mirth; And o'erthrew them with prophesying To the old of the new world's worth; For each age is a dream that is dying, Or one that is coming to birth. Turt the truth is lying next to you +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Sat Oct 3 13:25:23 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 14:25:23 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Pretty Birds Fly Away Message-ID: <01bdeec8$e5093e20$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Hello. B&S get Record of the Week in El Pais newspaper. There's a picture of Isobel thoughtfully trying to get the wax out of her ear with her finger, as seen in the Cd booklet. The review would probably seem a lot better if we hadn't read so many lately, but in the interests of trainspotterish completism, here is a rough translation: Bitter Softness: the British group distill whispering and studenty pop. Since the beginnings of Al Stewart ("Bedsitter Chronicles", 1967), there has been a school of singer-songwriters in the UK who express themselves with crappy guitars and sing softly, so as not to bother the neighbours or out of pure embarrassment. B&S act anonymously and make pop that is both homemade and extremely refined that one expects of artistes that recorded for Cherry Red or El records in the eighties. To avoid the sorry destiny of their predecessors, the group reject thematic twatty tweeness, talk about love with a certain rawness and show British audacity (in "Seymour Stein" they take the piss out of the record company chief of the same name). At first glance, they seem to be simple student troubadours, but they exhibit "hip" sarcasm and unusual musical references (Motown! Acid Jazz!). In fact, their perversity goes as far as "wasting" some of their best songs in the EPs that they release between LPs. Curious, my dear Watson. Diego A. Manrique ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - I swear I didn't make that last line up. Conclusive proof that journalists the world over are tuned in and turned on to Sinisterine activity. There's also a half page advertisement, featuring an even greener Chris Geddes even closer up. It looks like a still from Andy Warhol's film "Blow Job". I bought "Here, My Dear" by Marvin Gaye. It reminds me a bit of "Exile On Main Street", in so far as it's quite long and sounds like shit at first, but then starts to sound really good. I like that, much better than the other way round. Bobby C +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LMJ216 at xxx.com Sat Oct 3 18:56:04 1998 From: LMJ216 at xxx.com (LMJ216 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 13:56:04 EDT Subject: Sinister: come with me and you'll be in a world of pure imagination (fwd) Message-ID: <5d2735d7.36166534@aol.com> here the poem in compleation... We are the music makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by the desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers; On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world forever, it seems. ~Arthur O'Shaughnessy <3Lisa<3 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JMoorkens at xxx.ie Sat Oct 3 21:09:29 1998 From: JMoorkens at xxx.ie (Joss Moorkens) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 21:09:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Don't Send In The Clowns Message-ID: Lordy. New York is pretty darned good, isn't it? I'm back 5 days and already I'm bored of Dublin. Anyways, my enormous thanks to the wonderful folk I met during my brief hiatus. The picnic was marvellous, JonnyKat was a star and Megan's socks were a feast for the eyes. That said, if you ever meet that Mick boy, hide your bicycle. So I was to do the monday poem thing? Sorry. I'd been away and both of my maiboxes were misbehaving, but I shall endeavour to find something of a sufficiently high quality for your high-falutin' tastes post-haste. May I be so bold as to suggest FunkySeb to entertain your literary needs in the intervening time? The good will out, boy. I truly believe it. Thanks too to Debbie for being complimentary about my tree tape. I've only gotten one so far (sniff) but I plan to ambush wee Nickie and nab Ronan and Claire's tapes from her sweaty paws. Must be particularly good, mustn't the?. So is anyone else going to the gig in Brussels, then? Isn't it strange how you realise what little you have to say to 700 people once you begin to write. I'm getting all shy now. Suffice to say that you lot cheer me greatly. Just stop listing bands. And buy 'Here My Dear'. That Chariot fellow may be a crap comic, but he knows a fine record when he hears it. love & hugs Joss PS. Megan: Brak is indeed the king. Cartoon planet was worth the air fare alone. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Sat Oct 3 23:06:03 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 23:06:03 Subject: Sinister: For the beautiful american listees Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981003230603.2c2f4648@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Hello kids, I am the french guy who was so lucky to talk to Isobel after the show in Strasbourg 2 days ago. Belle and Sebastian will come the to US soon (yu know that of course) and Isobel seemed to be a little bit anxious. She is afraid that americans will not love belle & sebastian. She told us that she had read some nasty things from the US and so she feels a bit afraid. I said that there were many listees in the US that really love them! She answered "You know, I dont know anything about Internet. I dont know how to send a email!". So she never had a look at the beautiful messages from the US... She would have understood that you are waiting for them! We told her that the american fans will wellcome Belle & Sebastian the same way as we wellcome them in Europe. I'm relying on you! I'm sure you will love them! XO, Philippe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Thessaly1 at xxx.com Sat Oct 3 23:08:08 1998 From: Thessaly1 at xxx.com (Thessaly1 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 18:08:08 EDT Subject: Sinister: hi kids! Message-ID: <3b569b98.3616a048@aol.com> so i did it! i bought a plane ticket for chicago and my friend bought me a ticket for the show. is anyone going to the show from the list who would like to meet up either before hand or after the show? write me if you are interested! jennifer Thessaly1 at aol.com p.s. i know this is a bit off the topic but has anyone else heard the new divine comedy cd? and if so, what do you think about it? musically it is good, but it isn't very catchy, no? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erinlew at xxx.com Sat Oct 3 23:36:04 1998 From: erinlew at xxx.com (Erin Lewis) Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 15:36:04 PDT Subject: Sinister: French fries, French bread, French dressing... Message-ID: <19981003223605.13469.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey kids, Philippe writes the most beautiful letters, doesn't he? I just want to say thank you to Philippe and Mark C and everyone else who says they like Americans. I have experienced the "I hate all Americans, but I guess *you're* okay..." and it's so nice to think there *are* welcoming arms in every country. I know America has a bad rep sometimes, especially what we read of France's opinion of us. I know many people who are scared to visit France, for fear they all hate us. If there are even five boys and girls in France as nice as Philippe and the other Sinisterines, I will have to take a holiday there. Let's have a picnic, I say. I love you all to pieces, Miss Erin, who just ordered her small Stow t-shirt and is happy, happy, happy as a texturized vegetable protein clam substitute Sending Honeypaul warm fuzzies via telepathy! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From noelani30 at xxx.com Sat Oct 3 23:41:10 1998 From: noelani30 at xxx.com (Jessica Noelani Wright) Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 15:41:10 PDT Subject: Sinister: French fries, French bread, French dressing... Message-ID: <19981003224110.1560.qmail@hotmail.com> erin... laughed out loud with the quote from "better off dead" great flick great quote. -jess ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From suzsch at xxx.net Sun Oct 4 00:24:01 1998 From: suzsch at xxx.net (Suzanne Schroeder) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 18:24:01 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Who are these people? Message-ID: <199810032320.SAA09588@smtp2.mailsrvcs.net> > > Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 23:06:03 > From: Philippe Garnier > Subject: Sinister: For the beautiful american listees > She is afraid that americans will not love belle & sebastian. She told us > that she had read some nasty things from the US and so she feels a bit > afraid. I said that there were many listees in the US that really love > them! She answered "You know, I dont know anything about Internet. I dont > know how to send a email!". So she never had a look at the beautiful > messages from the US... She would have understood that you are waiting for > them! Ah, she is either doing that whole Caesar thing of "no, I can't accept the crown" making people want to give it to her more, or she actually believes that. Who are these people saying nasty things? Even my friends who I can't convince to buy an album will listen to my stuff and think it's cool. Journalists? MTV? Yeah, of course MTV will say something "nasty." Not because it's bad, but they have to have an excuse to say why it won't fit in the play list. Also, sadly, I guess it also falls more into the category of "sissy." It's why no one liked the Smiths yet were more willing to embrace Morrissey with a hard glam sound back in 92. Still, I can't wait. If everything goes to plan, I will be in Boston to see them. If not, I will be sitting lonely and docile at my parent's house enjoying our weekly meal together. s.s. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sun Oct 4 01:19:33 1998 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 17:19:33 PDT Subject: Sinister: cowboys cowboys everywhere.. Message-ID: <19981004001934.16487.qmail@hotmail.com> dear sinister people, ..i saw my math teacher in a music video,you know the rockafeller skank/fatboy slim...the cowboy! it's him! it's him! (speaking of,aren't those 3 dancers lovely? where can i hire them to dance for me?) some of you were talking about urban being associated with poor...oh no no...it's always the rural bits you get the jokes at,come ON! my town has always been the joke among city folk... yes yes i get my water from a well..(and no old men who eat creamed corn through a straw do not bathe in it)..and it tastes damn good....no chemicals you know ok,like what's wrong with my computer..on that chat thingy it keep saying 'valid name,no data record of requested type' what's wrong? i tell it i love it...it acts cold again and again..help me a 16+ show!i've never heard of that restriction... is the strangest...why don't they just make it all ages? i never understand who came up with this weird age number restriction cutoff..do they think 15 year olds will be filled with thoughts of pre-marital sex,drugs and rock and roll,bad janitor closet situations and then suddenly..16 and mature and responsible? there should be an intelligence test,all the idiots can sit on the cold cold curb and see how it feels...and i mean,really at a belle and sebastian show too,how naughty could it get ("oooooooh do you really want me to answer that genevieve" whispers stuart murdoch from his shadowy corner. "oh behave" she replies,with a twinkle in her eyes) Big Stu/Formerly Tall Git..how sad you sound.. I missed you anyways,does that count? (it should!) I miss Honey too,is he really being fed peeled grapes? oh oh! what the world needs now,is love sweet love genevieve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Sun Oct 4 20:31:02 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 20:31:02 Subject: Sinister: French fries, French bread, French dressing... Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981004203102.2d2fad2c@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Erin wrote : >Hey kids, > Philippe writes the most beautiful letters, doesn't he? I just >want to say thank you to Philippe and Mark C and everyone else who says >they like Americans. I have experienced the "I hate all Americans, but >I guess *you're* okay..." and it's so nice to think there *are* >welcoming arms in every country. I know America has a bad rep >sometimes, especially what we read of France's opinion of us. I know >many people who are scared to visit France, for fear they all hate us. >If there are even five boys and girls in France as nice as Philippe and >the other Sinisterines, I will have to take a holiday there. Let's have >a picnic, I say. > Scared to visit France ! Why ? The truth is that sometimes America seems awful to us. I can only tell my feelings, not the point of view of all the french people. I like America because of blues, jazz, rock, writers. Because I love Cormac Mc Carthy, Paul Auster, Woody Allen, Bill Evans, Jim Harrison, John Cassavetes, John Coltrane, Lambchop, etc... But there are also many things that I dont like : all the bad movies coming from Hollywood, puritanism, death penalty, trash TV, Mac Donalds, Kenneth Starr... I will come to the US next year, and I will live there at least one year. I will certainly miss Europe, and France. I love my country, but I dont sing our national anthem every morning. I am not particularly proud to be french: I'm not responsible for being french, I didn't choose. Let's try to take the best from all the countries. From Scotland, I take Belle & Sebastian ! And tonight I will watch Doctor Carter, Docter Green, Doctor Ross on TV... it's an emergency :) Philippe, the french boy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From escossia at xxx.br Sun Oct 4 20:24:44 1998 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 16:24:44 -0300 Subject: Sinister: Fosca Message-ID: <01bdefcc$a4113580$d17defc8@default> Copy & Paste from SHINKANSEN Web Page: "...FOSCA ..... slow, quiet, weepy, sad songs... eyes closed... Galaxie 500 covering Barbra Streisand - Dickon's own words..." Sorry to post it to sinister. But.. IS IT TRUE ? Dickon Are you there ? I accept a Fosca Demo Tape :c) ~~~^~^v^~^v^~^v^~^v^~v^~^v^~^v^~ Ivo A P Escossia +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jesandy at xxx.edu Sun Oct 4 20:31:13 1998 From: jesandy at xxx.edu (jennifer) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 14:31:13 -0500 Subject: Sinister: trembling with anticipation... Message-ID: <01bdefcd$8c2aef00$1f159f95@jimmy..> hello all you beautiful people! i'm sorry to bother the list with this non-b&s content but i was wondering if there were any nice persons out there who would be willing to tape me some trembling blue stars stuff...? i've heard good things about them through the list but unfortunately can't find anything by them round here. i would of course be willing to send a tape/money/my soul/do a trade/etc. please reply privately if you wouldn't mind helping me out. thanks so very much, please resume your belle-and-sebastianey lives and i hope your sunday isn't grey like mine. ta! jennifer ******************** does the body rule the mind or does the mind rule the body? i dunno... and if you must go to work tomorrow well if i were you i wouldn't bother for there are brighter sides to life and i should know because i've seen them but not very often... am i still ill? ********************* -----Original Message----- From: Madame Cholet To: sinister at majordomo.net Date: Friday, October 02, 1998 12:48 PM Subject: Sinister: club 8 OK, I know this doesn't "technically" have B&S content, but since great minds think alike, I thought i'd crap on about how wonderful the new Club 8 record is (on March Records)....Wow. Driving to work, here in LA..in the rain....(unless the smog is leaking again) just does something to me. I loved Club 8 when they were more tweeish, but now they're even better...with some of the lovliest female vocals i've heard in my life. It's a bit like...well...you know all of you that *nearly* like the dancy Field Mice stuff with Annemarie singing, but just can't because it's the Field Mice and just seems wrong to you? Well..it's kind of like that. If you like Ivy(NYC), They Go Boom, Shoestrings, and "Missing The Moon" type Field Mice stuff, you'll faint dead away hearing this. The CD is called "The Friend I Once Had" and fits in perfectly for those rare moments when TBWTAS has to rest. Some of it sounds a bit Dubstarish, but not as mainstream..ya know? Had a dream the other night that these rabbits had hundreds of babies (probably cause i'd just watched the Father Ted episode where Dougal has a rabbit and it has loads of babies and Bishop Brennan hates them cause he was stuck in a lift with tons of them and they started nibbling at his cape and....anyway...upon closer examination of my rabbit babies I discovered that they were infact, tiny, baby Wombles! And I was happy. beth +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fruite at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 00:21:39 1998 From: fruite at xxx.com (Jamie McCordale) Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 16:21:39 PDT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981004232139.12521.qmail@hotmail.com> subscribe_sinister ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MileEndGrl at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 00:43:42 1998 From: MileEndGrl at xxx.com (MileEndGrl at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 19:43:42 EDT Subject: Sinister: cowboys cowboys everywhere.. Message-ID: In a message dated 10/3/98 5:24:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, pookie59 at hotmail.com writes: << a 16+ show!i've never heard of that restriction.. >> and you know the crazy thing? Then enforce the restriction. My friend was stopped outside the Supper Club for the Supergrass show cause the guy thought he was 15. How can you tell the difference between a 15 and 16 year old. I sure can't! Irving Plaza has the same restriction! I don't understand at all. So anyway, my Belle and Sebastian story of the day. My dad finally thinks I'm ready to listen to music in the car. I know, I know, I could of gotten my license ages ago, but I didn't see a need so I'm learning now. Anyhoo, back to that point of my lovely little story... I never realized how caught up I could get into music in the car, yes it distracts me at home, but I didn't think it would in the care (kind of stupid I guess). I was giving Sinister my full attention that I almost missed a turn, decided to quickly turn and I almost hit a guy on the side of the road! I almost hit him! It was so scary. He had to jump into the trees. My dad is next to me cursing and everything! Ahh! I'm still shaken up. The moral of the story, don't listen to great music in the car cause you just get distracted by the beauty. Cass +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jmurphy at xxx.Edu Mon Oct 5 01:47:31 1998 From: jmurphy at xxx.Edu (Jessica Murphy) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 20:47:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: 'wonderful deathless ditties' Message-ID: Wow... I'm glad I asked. Thanks to Archel, Turt and Lisa, this gap in my knowledge has been filled *and* we all got to read a lovely poem. Just further proof of why the Sinister list is so great... :) jessica m ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 13:23:59 +0100 From: Ian Turton Archel wrote: > On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Jessica Murphy wrote: > > > So, OK, while we're on the subject of Willy Wonka and poetry-quote > > attributions, I think there's another line in the movie that comes from > > somewhere else... when Mr. Wonka says, "We are the music makers, and we > > are the dreamers of dreams." (approximately; haven't seen it in a while.) > > > It's from a poem by Shaughnessy. Lovely it is too, though I just tried to > remember the rest of it and can't. Something about sea breakers and > sitting by desolate streams. Close: half a cigar. It's Arthur O'Shaughnessy. Here's the full palaver. It's called 'The Two Day Early Monday Poem No-One Asked Me For'. No it's not. We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. With wonderful deathless ditties We build up the world's great cities, And out of a fabulous story We fashion an empire's glory: One man with a dream, at pleasure, Shall go forth and conquer a crown; And three with a new song's measure Can trample an empire down. We, in the ages lying In the buried past of the earth, Built Nineveh with our sighing, And Babel itself with our mirth; And o'erthrew them with prophesying To the old of the new world's worth; For each age is a dream that is dying, Or one that is coming to birth. Turt the truth is lying next to you +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wasneto at xxx.br Mon Oct 5 02:47:57 1998 From: wasneto at xxx.br (Winston Neto) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 22:47:57 -0300 Subject: Sinister: Bossanova, Race, Loud Music Message-ID: <002301bdf002$4c02e1a0$f0b3e6c8@default> Hi friends! I'm new to this list and I would like to introduce myself: I'm 25 and a brazilian fan of the best scottish band ever. Are there other brazilians on the list? > By a stroke of fate, the LP is "Brasil" by Joao Gilberto (sorry, I >can't do the proper squiggly marks), Gilberto Gil, Maria Bethania, and, >yes, Caetano Veloso. Quite a lovely long-player. As I could see, there is someone that knows a bunch of wonderful brazilian musicians. Please write to me if you need more information about my country and the good music we do. []'s Winston. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ajax at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 04:41:35 1998 From: ajax at xxx.com (Jake Reichert) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 20:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: French fries, French bread, French dressing... In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.16.19981004203102.2d2fad2c@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> from "Philippe Garnier" at Oct 4, 98 08:31:02 pm Message-ID: <199810050341.UAA18597@atari.saturn5.com> > Scared to visit France ! Why ? > The truth is that sometimes America seems awful to us. I can only tell my > feelings, not the point of view of all the french people. I like America > because of blues, jazz, rock, writers. Because I love Cormac Mc Carthy, > Paul Auster, Woody Allen, Bill Evans, Jim Harrison, John Cassavetes, John > Coltrane, Lambchop, etc... On a related tangent, maybe Philippe can shed some light on why there are so many French Paul Auster fans? I'm inclined to believe that there are actually more French P.A. fans than American ones. Just curious. -mrjake who likes his This Mortal Coil on vinyl with a side of hot cocoa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Mon Oct 5 08:57:33 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 08:57:33 Subject: Sinister: French fries, French bread, French dressing... In-Reply-To: <199810050341.UAA18597@atari.saturn5.com> References: <3.0.5.16.19981004203102.2d2fad2c@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981005085733.2d17d284@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Jake wonders : >On a related tangent, maybe Philippe can shed some light on why there are >so many French Paul Auster fans? I'm inclined to believe that there are >actually more French P.A. fans than American ones. Just curious. > French people like artists whose work is strongly linked to New York. Because New York is the city in the US where you feel the most a kind of "european culture". And we love artists who love France! Many writers (Auster, Jay MacInerney), film directors (Auster), music composers (Philip Glass) have many fans in France. And some of these artists speak french, which is not the case for a majority of americans :) But this has nothing to do with Belle&Sebastian. So if some of you want to discuss about this kind of subjects with me, you can contact me privately. We can talk about America, France, Scotland, Germany as much as you want to! Looking forward to hearing from you, Philippe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jong_1998 at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 10:11:58 1998 From: jong_1998 at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 02:11:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: jon g. pops round again Message-ID: <19981005091158.8271.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> Hey kids! I'm back yet again, taking time out between maths and french to say hello. I'm afraid I really can't keep up with all you lot, while I'm at school, so forgive me if anyone's said all this already. Has anyone seend this month's Select magazine? There is a whole two pages devoted to B&S at Sheperd's Bush. The most exciting thing is a picture of Stuart M with a bucket in his hand, doing the raffle. And you can see right up his right nostril. It's wicked. And in the article, the only thing I can remember is that they said the girl on the cover was an androgyne or something. Which is silly of them. Mattepi at aol.com wrote: >unsubscribe mattmachine at bigfoot.com And jon wet himself accordingly. This is what happens when jon is very bored at school. Is anything exciting happening? I'm really bored. Really really really bored. Someone think of something exciting for me to do. OK? lots of love (cos I'm going now bye!) jon g. jon.g at btinternet.com - http://surf.to/jongandbethey == jon.g at btinternet.com or jong_1998 at yahoo.com http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Mon Oct 5 10:12:55 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 10:12:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Athens gig Message-ID: <36188D97.36B6475B@jeepster.co.uk> hi everyone, oh god ... sorry, i forgot to post this before i left on friday ... credit card sales details from the promoter: people can call the 40 watt club (706) 549-7871 (they do a mail out ticket thing for out of towners, I believe) oh and both New York and Boston are sold out and Chicago is close to selling out. hope this helps! cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From richard.connell at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 10:28:33 1998 From: richard.connell at xxx.com (Richard Connell) Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 10:28:33 +0100 (BST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <9633281005101998/A17773/ADVAX1/11CA2A9C2100*@MHS> Hi, Another non-B&S question here but i cant think of anyone else to ask, haveing no friends with any musical taste (example: on of my friends favourite bands is republica!). Can anyone tell me about Nick Drake, specifically when and how he died. I know he died young and am quite sure it was suicide but dont know how (not really important) or why (if anyone has any idea). Cheers, Rich ps I hope i don't get a telling off and a slap on the wrist for this and told to look in the archives as our company have just banned us from using the internet so i cant look. This goes for any other stoopid questions i ever ask if i forget to put this disclaimer on them. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paul.field at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 10:42:35 1998 From: paul.field at xxx.com (Paul Field) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:42:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Nick Drake Message-ID: <01BDF04C.DD974120.paul.field@cmgplc.com> Richard Connell wrote: Can anyone tell me about Nick Drake, specifically when and how he died. I know he died young and am quite sure it was suicide but don't know how (not really important) or why (if anyone has any idea). Nick Drake died from an overdose of prescribed anti-depressants. Nobody really knows whether or not it was an accident or suicide. By all accounts his condition was improving at the time of his death, and he was starting to record new music (as can be found on the posthumous release 'Time of no reply'). I recently read a biography of Nick Drake, which was well written & gave a relatively unbiased account of his life and work, but unfortunately Nicks family weren't keen on the idea, and so the book lacks their insights and also the author was not allowed to print any of the great mans lyrics. I can't remember the name of the author of the top of my head, but if you're interested I shall find out this evening. To Becky: I checked out your web site, and it's pretty cool. There's also a photo of you on it, and if you ask me the mystery bloke would be mad not to be interested. I also noticed your quote from 'Which Will' by Nick Drake - that p*!$es me off! I plagiarised those lyrics (but I didn't try to claim them as my own) to write in my girlfriends valentines card earlier this year. The result: I was dumped shortly afterwards! Romance is the way to a girls heart...pah! Love Paul 'feeling slightly sorry for himself' Field. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aszolnoki at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 10:56:16 1998 From: aszolnoki at xxx.com (Andras Zalan Szolnoki) Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 02:56:16 PDT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981005095617.29844.qmail@hotmail.com> >From owner-sinister at majordomo.net Mon Oct 5 02:31:49 1998 >Received: from localhost (daemon at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA16130; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:31:19 +0100 >Received: by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (bulk_mailer v1.9); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:31:02 +0100 >Received: (from majordomo at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA16092 for sinister-outgoing; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:30:57 +0100 >Received: from gcsin1.gecm.com (gcsin1.gecm.com [194.128.74.2]) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA16088 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:30:52 +0100 >Received: from gcsin3.geccs.gecm.com (gcsin3.geccs.gecm.com [137.221.7.24]) > by gcsin1.gecm.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA28365 > for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:30:24 +0100 (BST) >Received: from bdwmgt.geccs.gecm.com by gcsin3.geccs.gecm.com; (5.65/1.1.8.2/13Mar95-1139AM) > id AA03454; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:29:23 +0100 >Received: from mr.geccs.gecm.com by bdwmgt.geccs.gecm.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3249) > id <01J2LWUTEIR40001FS at bdwmgt.geccs.gecm.com> for sinister at majordomo.net; Mon, > 5 Oct 1998 10:29:20 +0100 (BST) >Received: with PMDF-MR; Mon, 05 Oct 1998 10:28:33 +0100 (BST) >Mr-Received: by mta ADVAX1.MUAS; Relayed; Mon, 05 Oct 1998 10:28:33 +0100 (BST) >Mr-Received: by mta ADVAX1; Relayed; Mon, 05 Oct 1998 10:28:33 +0100 (BST) >Mr-Received: by mta GCSCHM; Relayed; Mon, 05 Oct 1998 10:29:17 +0100 (BST) >Disclose-Recipients: prohibited >Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 10:28:33 +0100 (BST) >From: Richard Connell >To: sinister >Message-Id: <9633281005101998/A17773/ADVAX1/11CA2A9C2100*@MHS> >Autoforwarded: false >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII >Importance: normal >Sensitivity: Company-Confidential >Ua-Content-Id: 11CA2A9C2100 >X400-Mts-Identifier: [;9633281005101998/A17773/ADVAX1] >Hop-Count: 2 >Reply-To: Richard Connell >X-List: Sinister >Can anyone tell me about Nick Drake, specifically when and how he died. I know he died young and am quite sure it was suicide but dont know how (not really important) or why (if anyone has any idea). I think he died from an overdose of anti-dep-s (or at least that�s what my friends have made me belive , but on the other hand eveybody KNOWS that michcichiuc huthenjvdubv (the lead singer in INXKDHKHSK) died alone in a hotel-suite while jerking-off , the reason of death was not the sex-act in it self , but that it was "spiced-up" (hmmm... wonder if this has anything to do with that song spice up your life?) with a piece of belt fitted around the so-called singers neck in a very tight way.......but enough of about that..) And to the why.....I think he was sad..REALY SAD,SAD,SAAAAAAD..but I�m just guessing..maybe he just took the wrong pills, maybe he just wanted to go for the vitamine+ jar , but missed.... Ciao Szola ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bajsjan at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 12:36:45 1998 From: bajsjan at xxx.com (jan thorneus) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 04:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Tribute to B&S Message-ID: <19981005113645.3154.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> Hey all. I was thinking of making a B&S tribut cassette. I dont know if this has been brought up on this list yet but...... Anyone who can/can't play music should send a tape to me with their own version of a B&S song, and i will collect them all, and put them togheter on a tape. Everyone who is on the tape will get a copy, and those who isnt, well, they will be forced to get their own copy from someone who has one. I dont know if this is an good idea, or if this is legal but i wont charge any money or something like(i will more likely loose money) that. If you want to be on tha tape, you can email me privatly and tell me wich song you are going to record. And remeber that you dont have to have an big studio or anything you use what you can find and rock. If anyone things this idea is shite, just kill me or whatever, i just thought it would great to have a Tribute tape. Well, im off. Bye. Jan. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 13:07:40 1998 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgal) Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 05:07:40 PDT Subject: Sinister: Tribute to B&S Message-ID: <19981005120741.27968.qmail@hotmail.com> I'd like that...it would be cool.. well I dunno if I would feel weird singing belle song..but since i'm a singer I could contribute..to that...anyone know a good site for guitarr chords on belle songs?? jan a great idea..and well let me guess..you're a fellow swede right?? hug becka http://www.angelfire.com/me/Mizzy Hey all. I was thinking of making a B&S tribut cassette. I dont know if this has been brought up on this list yet but...... Anyone who can/can't play music should send a tape to me with their own version of a B&S song, and i will collect them all, and put them togheter on a tape. Everyone who is on the tape will get a copy, and those who isnt, well, they will be forced to get their own copy from someone who has one. I dont know if this is an good idea, or if this is legal but i wont charge any money or something like(i will more likely loose money) that. If you want to be on tha tape, you can email me privatly and tell me wich song you are going to record. And remeber that you dont have to have an big studio or anything you use what you can find and rock. If anyone things this idea is shite, just kill me or whatever, i just thought it would great to have a Tribute tape. Well, im off. Bye. Jan. _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nikolas.montaldi at xxx.uk Mon Oct 5 13:41:54 1998 From: nikolas.montaldi at xxx.uk (nikolas montaldi) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:41:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: hello to STEPHANE,AURORE from paris Message-ID: <7129089ECA26D211AA6600805FA774BCB6F12F@airport.unn.ac.uk> hi there, this is just a little note to stephane,aurore,miles from paris and sarah and all those other lovely people from glasgow,i met at the leeds concert.i've eventually managed to get on to the net and had a look at all the wonderful stuff there is on B&S.the day and evening in leeds a month ago,have really been very special for me since i arrived there on my own,slightly depressed,without a ticket and then met all these nice people,got a ticket from stephane and was given the chance to attend the amazing concert(i used to love morrissey for many years,but his concerts,although very emotional and physically exhaustive were never of such beauty abd quality).for a bookish recluse like me it was quite a change,meeting people,being interviewd,seeing stuart murdoch etc.etc.It's a shame the melody maker didn't use those photos and remarks of us in the end(however i was quite taken aback by it all and lost for words at that moment,so i guess it was for the best they didn't include my stammering).i tried to contact stephane and aurore through e mail,but somehow delievery failed.anyway, i hope you have a brilliant time at the paris concert and drop me line if you like. NIK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tton at xxx.edu Mon Oct 5 13:50:38 1998 From: tton at xxx.edu (THAIAN N TON) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:50:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: B&S on NPR Message-ID: Hi Listees, I just heard from a friend that B&S was mentioned as the hottest unnoticed band right now on National Public Radio this morning. The things you learn at 8 am , just thought I'd like to share. I heard they also played TBWTAS but hey... did anyone hear it? did they play it live? Love, wee chi chi x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snorman at xxx.uk Mon Oct 5 13:52:59 1998 From: snorman at xxx.uk (Sam Norman) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:52:59 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: xfm watch Message-ID: either i was dreaming or i heard b&s on xfm. over the weekend at about 3am they played tbwtas it seems that listerners complaints are having some effect on the programmers at xfm. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From padraic_fresheire at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 14:13:54 1998 From: padraic_fresheire at xxx.com (padraic doorey) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 06:13:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: xfm watch the sequel) Message-ID: <19981005131354.17748.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> sam norman wrote: "either i was dreaming or i heard b&s on xfm. over the weekend at about 3am they played tbwtas it seems that listerners complaints are having some effect on the programmers at xfm. " and yesterday i heard them play elliot smith.... _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 14:18:22 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:18:22 EDT Subject: Sinister: The Monday Poem! Message-ID: <310d4c00.3618c71e@aol.com> The Monday poem.... God it's exciting typing that! The responsibility of perpetuating a list tradition, will I match the superior quality of my forerunners, will everyone think it's shite, will it float Trousers' melting submarine? Who knows? My pulse is racing. Anyway, the poem. The poet may seem very familiar to some of you, having been a regular guest on Mark Radcliffe's seminal 'graveyard shift' programme. Although punning and lighthearted on the surface, his tales of dogs and cafes are laced with bleak melancholy. The poet is of course the some-time bus conductor and full time Luton Town supporter, Mr John Hegley. No More Bus Company At the age of twenty three, my mother sat me on her knee and she said these words to me she said 'Johnny,' she said 'Johnny Boy.' Now it may not sound like much to you but it did the job I'm telling you and I was gone out of the door to get myself a job down at the depot, down in Bristol, City and Rovers town. There were two machines and two of us working the omnibus, me I was the one behind winding the handle up and bell ringing and on a good day singing as well: 'hello fellow travellers it's good to have you on you're all very beautiful and you can call me Johnny Boy, hold tight, all got tickets? Hold tight, will you move on down.' But I'll never get my job back now not now those Bristol buses have gone OPO That's One Person Operation, gives a good conducting boy no hope-oh. So who's going to help you get off and on? Who's going to hand out the conversation? Who's going to stand in the cubby hole, who is going to say 'hold tight, all got tickets? Hold tight, are you all right? Hold tight, can I help you with that pushchair? Hold tight, can I help you with that buggy eyed baby? Hold on very tightly.' I was going to treat you all to Ian Mcmillan's 'Ted Hughes is Elvis Presley!' instead but I couldn't be bothered to type it out; it's 4 pages odd. So you'll just have to imagine it what it sounds like, using the title as a starting point. I'm sure you can all do as well as Mr McMillan. But be sure to remember a few 'Ekkie Thump's to establish your regional credentials. And throw in some Ivor Cutler style weird northern surrealism for good measure. By way of apology, I'll leave you with another (very) short Hegley poem about public transport: The Network Southeast Beast Benevolent, not malevolent; after its feast of commuters they are released. Thanks for letting me butt in. Joss is next, aren't you? I look forward to something more highbrow than my offering. Which won't be particularly hard. :-) Belle and Sebastian session tonight.......yaay! bye seb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From janine at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 16:36:48 1998 From: janine at xxx.com (Janine Papp) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:36:48 -0500 Subject: Sinister: brad update Message-ID: ok sorry to bother those of you who don't care, but for those who do, brad is not coming to NYC at all, so all meetup plans are OFF. Apparently there's flooding in Tallahasee, and he drove two hours from Georgia to there... I don't know. It's a long, sad story, and if you want to hear it, you can e-mail him at parachute at earthlink.net. Some of you may remember brad's funny/sarcastic posts, but he left the list, because he said too many people were talking about stuff he didn't care to hear about. Queen Bee Janine +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 15:33:23 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:33:23 EDT Subject: Sinister: Tribute to B&S Message-ID: Jan wrote: << Hey all. I was thinking of making a B&S tribute cassette. I dont know if this has been brought up on this list yet but...... >> Before any boring people with legal writs and official e-mails step in, can I just say what a fantastic idea this is? I mean if crappy zeitgiest shaggers like Silver Sun can record dubious cover versions, and then flog them, why can't we? (Not flog them, I mean, but record them..) At worst it could be a horrible trawl through the bedrooms and acoustic guitars of a generation, but at best...well, if the imagination and diversity of the list could be applied to the songs of Belle and Sebastian, it would sound incredible. My favourite image at the moment is Issac Hayes singing Dirty Dream #2. Maybe the list's resident fictional scouse comedian would care to volunteer? I'd love to be on this album- doing, oh, I could be dreaming, maybe- but I'm not doing it on me own- it'll sound like a sad git in his bedroom- so does anyone in London feel like joining me? I'm thinking of a wall of aural fireworks and wibbling synths here.. and a big f*ucked up rock out ending. it'd be marvellous. Come on, you know you want to... <> No! This is a potentially fantastic idea, and miles better than anything we've seen for ages! You should be venerated by the whole list! Just as long as it's not going to just be crap Stuart M impressions for 90 minutes... God! I'm excited now! AnExcitedFunkySeb ''If the sun was the dome of St Pauls, and Mars rode around the Circle Line, Neptune the M25, And we strolled down Church St looking for second-hand clothes; We'd be out in space somewhere Near the moon, just looking down at all this debris'' Animals that Swim, 'Near the Moon' +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paul.field at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 15:40:45 1998 From: paul.field at xxx.com (Paul Field) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:40:45 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tribute to B&S Message-ID: <01BDF076.857B4F20.paul.field@cmgplc.com> Jan wrote: Hey all. I was thinking of making a B&S tribut cassette. I dont know if this has been brought up on this list yet but...... Funky Seb wrote: I'd love to be on this album- doing, oh, I could be dreaming, maybe- but I'm not doing it on me own- it'll sound like a sad git in his bedroom- so does anyone in London feel like joining me? I'm thinking of a wall of aural fireworks and wibbling synths here.. and a big f*ucked up rock out ending. it'd be marvellous. Come on, you know you want to... Well, Jan top idea! I like it, I like it a lot! Seb, I live in London, and I can play guitar (well, of a sort), I can't sing to save my life, but I'm up for having a bash & a laugh. I also might (and that's a big might) be able to get my hands on a 16-track (although this will involve a lot of crawling & brown-nosing on my behalf, but if it's for a good cause....) My idea is for a cover of 'Me and the major', with a wah-wah guitar playing the harmonica part (and somebody other than me singing!). +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TheeXVirus at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 16:15:57 1998 From: TheeXVirus at xxx.com (TheeXVirus at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:15:57 EDT Subject: Sinister: Nick Drake Message-ID: Was that the recently published biography? I've been wondering how that is.....would have to special order it out here, so no chance of returning it if it's awful. A couple years back, one of those Q/Vox magazines ran a front page story on Nick, which was pretty good and had quite a few photos. justin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Oct 5 16:55:27 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:55:27 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Eartha Kitt Does Jobbies in Taxis Message-ID: <01bdf078$92518640$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Queen Janine: >Some of you may remember brad's funny/sarcastic posts, but he left the >list, because he said too many people were talking about stuff he didn't >care to hear about. Too many people are talking about stuff I don't particularly care to hear about too. I suppose it's the same for everybody now there's so many people. Delete, delete, delete. It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't such a dreary day. I feel much the same as Jon G today - bored stiff. At times like this the list can be a godsend, but today all I got was an in-depth discussion about Nick Death's drake, hardly the kind of thing to cheer us all up. The author is Patrick Humphries. Despite his best efforts, it's a depressing book, you'd be better off with "Blue Movie" by Terry Southern. Nick's family didn't contribute because they're dead as well, except his sister. Tribute album - I seem to remember a bunch of freaks doing something similar for/at Elvis Costello via our beloved internet. Perhaps someone would like to get in touch with said freaks to find out how they did it. I think it's a terrible idea, but I hope you all prove me wrong. I think Elvis liked it. Has anyone been to see Poorly Paul? Adrian, how was Depeche Mode? We've entered a competiton to win tickets to see them here. Boy, I feel lucky today! Joss wrote: And buy 'Here My Dear'. That Chariot fellow may be a crap comic, but he knows a fine record when he hears it. I'm not quite sure how to take that. Does anyone know if I like Lauryn Hill's new record? Or do I prefer Robert Wyatt reissues? If you know the answer, let me know privately, or keep it to yourself, or stick it on the end of something more relevant than this message. I shouldn't ask really, I just want some attention. That French radio station doesn't work here, which is funny because France is only about five minutes away by viking longship. The cartoon girl I most fancy is Clara, Heidi's mate, the one in the wheelchair. And all those impossibly breasted manga women from Japan. Love to you and you and you, (winks) Bobby "Ba Dum Ba Dum" Chariot PS: Jose Maria (hijo), my messages bounce back, just like those big rubber balls. The answer is yes and yes. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From craftylo at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 17:33:39 1998 From: craftylo at xxx.com (Princess Rachel) Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 12:33:39 -0400 Subject: Sinister: b&s aftershow plans in NYC Message-ID: <3618F4E3.5416@erols.com> Hello. i happened to notice that the Nov. 2nd supper club show in NYC falls on a monday night, seeing as there will be so many people wanting to prolong the magic after the gig that i sould suggest something good to do after the show is over! every monday nights at Korova Milk Bar on avenue A my good friends, and possibly yours spin the tunes and the $3 margueritas until the early east village hours. they would be glad to entertain us for no cover charge. anyone wanting to know more can ask me or JJ about it. *mwah* rachel. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Mon Oct 5 17:35:34 1998 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 18:35:34 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Top night Message-ID: <3618F556.B8DC0F03@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Hi sinisters, at 21:30 there will be the special of B&S , so i want to tell you how i'll spend my night today. At 21:00 , with my car , i'll go in a beautiful hill and i'll put the car in direction of a big aerial. At 21:15 my girlfriend, with Passi and his girlfriend , will come in this hill with 4 pizza and some bottle of beer. We'll eat very fast and at 21:30 i'll put the radio of my car in 162kh ; subsequently i'll put my finger in the aerial of my car and magically we 'll be connected with france. Tomorrow at 9:00 i'll have an exame.NO PROBLEM! 1) Belle and Sebastian. 2) Exame. Cheers. Marco#7 , the boy with the arab number. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Mon Oct 5 17:40:48 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:40:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: my idea of fun Message-ID: once again, i'm sort of between classes, enjoying the final moments of my lunch break listening to b&s. it was imminently easy to choose to write email over doing something like homework. gag me with a spoon. but i think i may be using improper writing today. that's because i'm going to my writing class too, and it's imperitive that i speak like one of my early neanderthal ancestors in preparation. it probably doesn't help that most of my teachers only have a tentitive hold on english anyway. i'd llike to congratulate the non-native english speakers on the list for their masterful grasp of english. i never realized how badly it could be spoken and the speaker still getting to teach at a university. apparently, i think too highly of higher education. anyway, on a far more interesting note, in reference to the title of mr miller's latest post, the seductive ms kitt gives personal safety messages regarding seat belts in new york taxis. i think this is a fascinating topic for conversation. everyone should take a taxi just for that, though i can't be held responsible just for that. so content, um, i'm listening to the album. xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ahalter at xxx.edu Mon Oct 5 18:20:58 1998 From: ahalter at xxx.edu (ahalter) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:20:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: once again i am pleading to this list... In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.16.19980915143901.38574726@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Message-ID: i know that phillippe is going to be taping the sessions today which are on quite soon i think but is anyone else? and could that person maybe make me a copy of the sessions? because i am here in los angeles and i have school today right when the sessions are going on... normally this would not be a problem and i would just skip class and listen to some lovely music instead but i have a critique today and i _must_ go to it... so can anyone help me and make me the happiest girl on the planet? i will send you little gifts and things and a tape too as an exchange... or even postage as well if that is what it takes... look at me i am so sad that i am missing this... help please! you can mail me privately love allison the sad girl who is biting on her sleeve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Mon Oct 5 18:48:50 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:48:50 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Sessions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Erm, sorry to be a bore everyone, but I've got a couple of favours to ask. Firstly, I'd love a copy of the B&S session tonight if anyone's recording it. Secondly, The Divine Comedy's gig tonight is going out live on Radio 1 in the UK, I don't suppose anyone's taping it and would do me a copy? I would do it myself, but, erm, I'm going to it... And I hope it's a good show, I need cheering up. I was supposed to be going with a certain female I've taken a severe liking to recently, but she couldn't get a ticket :-( Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 18:46:41 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:46:41 EDT Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian...on the radio...playing songs for Frenchmen... Message-ID: <5ce738c7.36190601@aol.com> Oooh! I've tuned my old radio in, and dusted off my GCSE french, and I'm waiting with bated ears, or something. I haven't listened to french radio since my school days.I keep expecting there to be questions: a) Why is M.Lenoir unhappy? b) How many dogs went missing in Clemont Ferrent? c) What is the mayor of Lyon's hobby? d) Is the mushroom museum open on Wednesdays? I went round a mushroom museum once. Actually that's a lie. I nearly did, but we all went to the troglodyte village instead. It was a school trip; we stayed in a monastry and in the evenings, we'd sneak off to the vineyard to drink cider, and cough on Gauloises. I liked France. You can buy cigarettes when you're very young. There's a cafe on almost every street corner and beer drinking's obligatory. The french for key cutting is tampon. Possibly. I may have made the last bit up. Only a few hours to go. People in southern Britain, you can pick up France Inter easily- it's around 160 long wave-right at the far left of your radio dial, and spreads far either side: it's really easy to find. At least I'm sure that it's France Inter- there's a man getting very angry about Belgian Croissants at the moment. As far as I can make out. The jingles also seem to be written by John Shuttleworth. Bing Bong Bing. Well, here we go. Good luck Belle and Sebastian. Philippe (with one L) wrote: <> Surely not just B&S for 50 minutes? They'll get a bit tired...or do you mean I have to put up with 41 minutes of crappy stuff in between? Oh well. We'll see. Thanks for the tip off. I haven't felt this way since I first heard them. I'm so excited :-) oooohhhhh!! seb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 19:14:04 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 18:14:04 GMT Subject: Sinister: cover me badd Message-ID: <361905c6.617304@post.demon.co.uk> Well, Brad's left (boo!), Rachel's DJing (hooray!), and Peter Miller wrote: >Eartha Kitt Does Jobbies in Taxis Peter, I'm sorry that I cruelly raised your hopes, I should have made it clear, it was only a number one. It was Tony Adams that did the other sort. >Tribute album - I seem to remember a bunch of freaks doing something similar >for/at Elvis Costello via our beloved internet. Perhaps someone would like >to get in touch with said freaks to find out how they did it. I think it's a >terrible idea, but I hope you all prove me wrong. Thank God for that, I thought it was just me. Even though Miller obviously got out of bed the wrong side today, I'm forced to agree. I don't want to sound like a cynical old bastard (although that's never stopped me in the past), and I'm sure the idea was made with the best intentions, but wouldn't it be better if B&S, and all they represent, inspired people who could play an instrument to write their own songs, with oooh...just a little bit of originality, rather than rehash something someone else did a lot better first time around. The only good reasons for doing cover versions are to do something completely different (some of us are already working on our Gabba version of "Fox in the Snow"), to cover something Godlike, but relatively unknown and bringing it to a wider public (like Mick Harvey's Gainsbourg tributes), or to "take a shite song and make it better", like Saint Etienne did with "Kiss and ma..."....why are you all looking at me funny? Love Tag xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From csomeone at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 19:54:05 1998 From: csomeone at xxx.com (Cynthia Someone) Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 11:54:05 PDT Subject: Sinister: Sessions Message-ID: <19981005185405.27252.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi, Like probably almost everyone else on the list, I would love to listen to the sessions but I'm at work being clerk junior, bated to stay with the promise of a better position. But that's okay because the list cheers me up. Anyway, on to the begging. Please please please email me if you're feeling generous and loving towards your fellow belle and sebastian fan and would like to do a trade, send postage, send trinkets and stories. being a new adoring fan, I bought Sinister first and found it hard to get into TBWTAS but I just bought 3 6 9 seconds of light and found it really helped me figure out TBWTAS ... Century of Fakers is my new favorite song ... Beautiful a close second, having known people like that myself. Nothing more to say on related topics, except I was always jealous of Daphne in Scooby Doo for being so pretty, and I could see how Mighty Mouse could be a turn on. Have a lovely day everyone. In peace Cynthia ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ken_davis at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 21:08:40 1998 From: ken_davis at xxx.com (ken_davis at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 05 Oct 98 15:08:40 -0500 Subject: Sinister: cover me badd Message-ID: <9810059076.AA907614176@smtp-gw2.putnaminv.com> I was on the Liz Phair mailing list a year or two ago, where this notion of listees playing musical homage to the list subject, also took shape. If memory serves, we had about 300 messages about this: we should do our own interpretation of Liz songs, we should perform Liz-style songs, we should do honest covers of Liz songs, we of like-Liz-mind should record any kind of song we like. etc.... Eventually, I think a tape was made containing all-of-the-above as songs. It was distributed to the "artists" and anyone else interested (not me). Eventually the recording creating alot of list noise, without much payoff. Oh well, it's a free list...do what you like. Cheers Ken Topsfield, MA - who is going to see both Liz Phair and B&S this month -> Donovan: does this entitle me to any Matador swag...a sticker perhaps? Did I mention, my extensive Yo La Tengo and Guided By Voices collections? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Putneysays at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 20:23:28 1998 From: Putneysays at xxx.com (Putneysays at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:23:28 EDT Subject: Sinister: Tribute to B&S Message-ID: <9fce38d3.36191cb0@aol.com> Wonderful idea Jan...although I'm just curious...I have a very amusing recording of my brother, who when drunk, was convinced he was Napolean, and started singing The State That I Am In...would that qualify for your tribute album? -Susannah (not, not that one...the other Susannah...I'm the less amusing and cavalier Susannah) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From yu145972 at xxx.ca Mon Oct 5 21:14:23 1998 From: yu145972 at xxx.ca (*ginger*) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:14:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: new member/toronto gig Message-ID: hallo... I heard there may be a meet-up in Toronto for B&S fans. If this is true please e-mail me as I know a few people who would be interested in going. I'd also like to enquire if there's anything happening concretely in Chicago. Thanks. from the wispy coquette...chris xxx -sometimes my arms bend backwards- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Private_User at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 21:20:40 1998 From: Private_User at xxx.com (Wise, Terri) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:20:40 -0400 Subject: Sinister: So I didn't know I was lying Message-ID: <199810052020.AA15943@interlock.mgh.com> Well... alas... I THOUGHT I'd be at the Boston show. But I was pathetically ill-informed and now I know that the B&S show is and has been sold out. So here's my question: What shows are left on the North American tour that AREN'T sold out? Are there any on the east coast or perhaps in Canada? Any way of getting tickets for these by phone? I've seen the posts regarding the Athens show... but that's a bit too far away for me! Thanks. Terri Wise Editorial Assistant McGraw-Hill College (617) 867-9805 Fax (617) 375-2285 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cjcheng at xxx.edu Mon Oct 5 21:46:50 1998 From: cjcheng at xxx.edu (Christy Cheng) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:46:50 -0400 Subject: Sinister: So I didn't know I was lying Message-ID: <01BDF07F.C05BDAC0@QUAD585.RESNET.UPENN.EDU> hi terri and for anyone else that would like to know tickets are still available for the philadelphia show at the trocadero. I only know of this show b/c i am here in philly. you can purchase tickets from ticketmaster online (www.ticketmaster.com) or over the phone at 215-336-2000. Tickets are $12.50 each and with the service charge come to about $20 each. I don't know if Philadelphia is too far away from you, but hopefully you'll be able to make the show! christy -----Original Message----- From: Wise, Terri [SMTP:Private_User at xxx.com] Sent: Monday, October 05, 1998 4:21 PM To: 'sinister at majordomo.net' Subject: Sinister: So I didn't know I was lying Well... alas... I THOUGHT I'd be at the Boston show. But I was pathetically ill-informed and now I know that the B&S show is and has been sold out. So here's my question: What shows are left on the North American tour that AREN'T sold out? Are there any on the east coast or perhaps in Canada? Any way of getting tickets for these by phone? I've seen the posts regarding the Athens show... but that's a bit too far away for me! Thanks. Terri Wise Editorial Assistant McGraw-Hill College (617) 867-9805 Fax (617) 375-2285 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 21:56:32 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:56:32 EDT Subject: Sinister: I think that c*nt Lenoir is gonna get a knee capping Message-ID: <833f128c.36193280@aol.com> Grrr popkids, grrr. Belle and Sebastian's session was great. 50 beautiful minutes of constant B&S. What can I say? Paris is going to be a very good gig tomorrow. But what is it about DJs? Why can't they shut the fuck up? Ever? And so it was that halfway through the set we went to an ad break, and then the news, only to go back to hear the very last chord of what sounded like 'The loneliness of the middle distance runner'. The best song they've ever done. Cheers Bernard. Well, I suppose I could forgive him for that. But then, right at the end, after Stuart M has said 'This'll have to be our last one whether we're still on air or not-we don't know any more', and broken into the most beautiful, mesmeric rendition of 'Sleep the Clock Around' that you can imagine, fat c*nt Lenoir shouts 'What a shame! We've run out of time!', and then demonstrates how little time there is left by talking about Baby Bird's forthcoming session for 3 sodding minutes. Stupid bloody sods. Why is there not enough time for Belle and Sebastian to finish their last song, but there is enough time for a 30 minute discussion of the nature of silence? French Bloke1-Silence is solitude. French Bloke2-Yes, silence is loneliness, and it is solitude. French Bloke3-I like Bird song. For me, it is very silent. French Bloke1-And lonely. French Blokes-Yes. ARRGGHH! Kill! Hate! Kill! BTW, They sang: The Boy done wrong again, Dog on Wheels, Paper Boat (a sixtiestastic Beach Boys type thing, with Stuart David singing), Seeing other People, Century of Fakers, (break for the news) Loneliness of the Middle Distance Runner(?), Mayfly, Wrong Love/Girl, Dirty Dream #2 (with Stuart D(?) doing the spoken verse in French), Poupe de Ciere.., Slow Graffiti, I Don't Love Anyone, Sleep the Clock Around. All very nice indeed. Was anyone from the list in the audience tonight? bye seb. No more posts from me today. I promise :-) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shanester35 at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 22:09:12 1998 From: shanester35 at xxx.com (Shane Harrison) Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 14:09:12 PDT Subject: Sinister: Re: Nick Drake bio Message-ID: <19981005210914.26496.qmail@hotmail.com> For all who are interested, the Nick Drake bio is by Patrick Humphries and is available now in the UK (still just hardcover, though, until January when the paperback becomes available). It will be out sometime this fall in the U.S., possibly in October. I've read it and it's very well done and quite thorough. Shane ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Mon Oct 5 22:08:44 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 22:08:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Hello shoes...I'm going to have to stand in you again... Message-ID: Ooh hi list.... Dost thou remember when mark radcliffe used to do that? *ooh* :) nostalgic sigh....it's scary to think about how good nostalgia can be. It's acceptable for say, Mark Radcliffe, but watch out for nostalgia kids, it only ends up as Heartbeat.... Sounded quite philosophical doncha think? Argh! I've had to DELETE IRC while we switch from 486 pooter which is about as quick to do something as B&S (hoo hoo chortle what jolly japery my young spinach bear OK...um yeah) and to a computer with....WINDOWS 98!!! With..um, actually I don't know what but it'll be a fucking lot faster than this one!! yey! Except it's scary and I don't know how to use it and it has all this poppy-uppy menu stuph which is quite amazing really.... I'm gutted! On Friday, I saw THE hmv sale. They had TONS! of best of Northern Soul, which I looked at, and when I saw a band called THE VELVETETTES I just *had* to buy, and also, a lovely compilation called Reggae for Lovers, which featured two really cheesey luuurver dudes on the front gazing meaningfully into each others eyes...also had Barrington Layby on it, so I thought I would get that as well. they were 1.99 each so I thought I was sorted. BUT! I didn't have ANY money untill Monday to buy them with. Checked again on sat to see if they were stil there.....yep, TONS! Went in today, with my moneymoneymoney and were they there??? WERE THEY BUGGERY!!! I was gutted! lots of "Tranquility' CD's (which can just poo right off!! Who wants to be tranquil!!! Obviously not meee) but NO! Northern Soul, No Raggae for lovers, just a load of 'Tranquility' (HUH!?!?!) and Rick 'poo' Wakeman. I was then FORCED to buy *Death to the Pixies* and *the Factory Story* for 6.99 each instead, which I hope you share my distress at being FORCED to buy by my cruel and deviant mind.....I've not listened to any of them yet, but I will do soon. I have been too busy listening to my Spanish AUTHENTIK tapes, which promise to deliver a section which has 'Dudes talking about William Hague in Spanish'. Then a section on the Spice Girls! Hija Power..... ooh bugger it I give up. No puedo hablar espanol y voy a tomar anthropology instead. I don't even know what exactly antropology is. Fingers croosed for my university stuffe kids! How about Information Studies at Edinburgh? Blame Honey and Linda for making Edinburgh JUST SOO NICE when I was there at the start of the month, and *making* me want to go there again!!! And I can't get into chat!! I deleted IRC and now I want it back!! I want to chat!!! I want to chat to fun people! I have phoned various people to amuse me and tell me I'm lovely, but no-one tarts about like da Sinister kru 'cha and I'm...singing we're justfied and we're ancient. Help meeee! or at least send me a nice e,mail saying, Sarah! We love you! And then I'll have a lovely warm glow that some people actually like me but I bet you couldn't be arsed to read this alll ANYWAY ya bastards....I could take you all on you know, cos I'm taller than Stuart Gardiner and wider than CHEF. I'M GOING (to make sweet loe down by the fire hehe I wish) NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Candarel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tton at xxx.edu Mon Oct 5 22:11:46 1998 From: tton at xxx.edu (THAIAN N TON) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:11:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: It's true! Message-ID: Yes, Listees it's true, i found the archive that b&s was spoken of (quite highly) on National Public Radio this morning they said: Belle and Sebastian -- Host Renee Montagne talks with Village Voice critic Dennis Lim about the current critical darlings in the pop music world, Belle and Sebastian. The Scottish band's latest CD is getting raves from critics, but will their music ever be heard by a wider audience? well, it was only 6 minutes worth of B&S content, but B&S nevertheless. Love, wee chi chi xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cadoret at xxx.fr Tue Oct 6 00:23:24 1998 From: cadoret at xxx.fr (denis cadoret) Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 23:23:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Sinister : french sessions In-Reply-To: <5d2735d7.36166534@aol.com> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981005232324.006f17d8@mail.club-internet.fr> here's a lucky frenchman who's just listened to the session with a wonderful sound (recorded it too, of course) I must say that, though I loved the records and songs, I was a trifle worried about what that could work out on stage. And I got a bit afraid by the first song "the boy done wrong again" which is the one I like the less in all their records. But after that, that was real good, fine songs finely played. Even a French cover "poupee de cire, poupee de son" a song written by Serge Gainsbourg. Unfortunately the last song was cut because the show ended and it was "sleep the clock around", my fave on the last LP. Well, I know they'll play it again pretty soon ( not tomorrow, as Babybird is in session). Too bad I can't see them tomorrow in Paris.:-( Denis +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From donovan at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 22:51:31 1998 From: donovan at xxx.com (donovan finn) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:51:31 -0400 Subject: Sinister: PARTY Message-ID: San Francisco nightspot 330 Ritch will be hosting a Belle and Sebastian party on Thursday, October 8. "Popscene," 330 Ritch's weekly britpop/mod/new wave club night will this week present a Belle and Sebastian themed party, with music, drinks, dancing and cool Belle and Sebastian prizes and giveaways. Details: Date: Thursday, October 8 Time: 10pm-3am Location: 330 Ritch St, Btwn 3rd and 4th at Townsend, South of Market 18 years of age and over, 21 to drink. (Sponsored by Popscene and Matador Records) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snyderd at xxx.edu Mon Oct 5 23:07:15 1998 From: snyderd at xxx.edu (Dave Snyder) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:07:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: ATTN MIchigan Belle fans Message-ID: Hi all, Is anyone planning on driving from Eastern Michigan to the show on October 26 in Chicago? I am meeting a friend there but am carless and would prefer to join a merry Belle caravan rather than take the train or rent one (if I can find a place that rents to 22 yr. olds..) I would be happy to chip in for gas and bring some Nick Drake and Felt and Orange Juice or whatever. I am in Ann Arbor. Someone please help! :) Thanks much, Dave ************************************************************************** *Dave Snyder******514 E. Ann St. #5 Ann Arbor MI 48104******(734)741-9708* ....didn't i say feelings were the last things to make themselves felt?... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ajax at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 23:08:19 1998 From: ajax at xxx.com (Jake Reichert) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:08:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: PARTY In-Reply-To: from "donovan finn" at Oct 5, 98 05:51:31 pm Message-ID: <199810052208.PAA14303@atari.saturn5.com> > San Francisco nightspot 330 Ritch will be hosting a Belle and Sebastian > party on Thursday, October 8. > > "Popscene," 330 Ritch's weekly britpop/mod/new wave club night will this > week present a Belle and Sebastian themed party, with music, drinks, > dancing and cool Belle and Sebastian prizes and giveaways. I hear they're giving away copies of Tigermilk to the first 50 people to show up. Any other listees planning on attending? This sounds like a brilliant way to spend a Thursday evening. -mrjake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bijoux13 at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 23:37:05 1998 From: bijoux13 at xxx.com (Felicia Daniel) Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 15:37:05 PDT Subject: Sinister: It's true! Message-ID: <19981005223706.25327.qmail@hotmail.com> dear list, wouldn't you know it? all of today's morning edition is available on real audio via the npr website EXCEPT the b&s segment, so don't bother trying. ("internet rights issues," they claim. hmph.) no matter, since very soon i'll be boarding a plane for the other side of the country to see them. forget the sinister dating service, i think we need a frequent flyer program. (esp. because the dating service is already up and running in an unofficial sort of way...you know who you are...) xo felicia ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Cebudo at xxx.com Mon Oct 5 23:42:28 1998 From: Cebudo at xxx.com (Cebudo at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:42:28 EDT Subject: Sinister: Tribute to B&S Message-ID: <424a79de.36194b54@aol.com> i'd like to try my hand at a belle and sebby song... i can play all of the ditties on if you're feeling sinister, and a few on the boy with the arab strap too. count me in. but i don't know what jan's e-mail address is. andrew. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From barzy at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 01:33:45 1998 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:33:45 -0800 Subject: Sinister: happy birthday andy! Message-ID: I know at the moment it's still October 5th here in The States, but it won't be when he gets in and reads this so just leave my crap timing alone (it's actually the 6th..)...and since he's always so nice and kind and helpful, I wanted to be the first (oh OK..maybe the second or third) to say HAPPY BIRTHDAY ANDY DEAN! *sniff* *sniff* (beth hands Andy a Budweiser) Love you man!!!!!!! Oh drink it anyway and quit your moaning... :D +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From FrescaMan at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 01:06:35 1998 From: FrescaMan at xxx.com (FrescaMan at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 20:06:35 EDT Subject: Sinister: newbie Message-ID: <39582df8.36195f0b@aol.com> hello there. i'm a newbie to this list (but not a newbie to belle, and/or sebastian). as a complete addict of this band i was wondering if anyone would like to trade any rarities (radio broadcasts, live shows etc). i have the "Tigermilk" ep on a CDR, and i have hundreds of other rare CDs/audio tapes from all kinds of bands, as i've been collecting cool stuff for 15 years i'm sure i have something that someone would want to trade for. CDR preferred but cassettes will certainly do. anyhow, if anyone is interested let me know, i can email you my CDR list or we could trade for "Tigermilk". feed my addiction! thanks Coby Benson oh and my favorite BAS song as of this moment has to be Lazy Line Painter Jane, though this changes regularly (last month it was all about Dylan in the Movies). +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bobstupak at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 01:23:44 1998 From: bobstupak at xxx.com (B B) Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 17:23:44 PDT Subject: Sinister: Japan Message-ID: <19981006002345.886.qmail@hotmail.com> Over here in Japan, the new record is really being promoted, I've seen big displays in stores, the cd in listening stations, plus I saw this full Jeepster display at this one place, what do people think of other Jeepster bands. One thing I havent heard is anything about them coming over here for shows, anybody heard anything? Damon and Naomi are playing tomorrow night, I will give it a shot. I am new to the list, perhaps I will stay a while. Brett ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TFertig3 at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 02:45:53 1998 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 21:45:53 EDT Subject: Sinister: real cool audio Message-ID: <58bec5b9.36197651@aol.com> Dear Magnificent 700, I've just discovered many lovely things: a.) I have real audio. So I just heard the two unreleased Looper songs in the treehouse, as well as Isobel's lovely little ditto. Oh, and I also saw the video for Lazy Line Painter Jane, even though it was really fuzzy and I couldn't really tell what was going on. b.) The sleevenotes for Tigermilk. I always knew they existed, but I never actually read them. Very nice indeed. They're on the Jeepster B&S page. Why hasn't the Philadelphia show sold out, folks? The Troc is a very wonderful place, especially for Belle and Sebastian, and you should all buy your tickets! It is certainly more intimate and cozy than the Supper Club. And smaller too. And now, to be totally off-topic just because I'm bored with all this convention, can anyone reccomend some good cheese to me? I like cheese a lot, especially gouda. Is Swedish cheese good, or would I just be wasting my time? I am proud to write a non-Nick Death post. BYE BYE (OOPS I pressed caps lock), Tami. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erinlew at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 03:11:54 1998 From: erinlew at xxx.com (Erin Lewis) Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 19:11:54 PDT Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian, on the radio, singing songs for Frenchies... Message-ID: <19981006021156.14241.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey kids, I wasn't trying to be rude by saying "Frenchies" - I hope it doesn't look like an insult. Anyway, now that the session has been radioed (is that a verb?), I thought I'd take this time to ask who the American rep is that I need to nag, er..., ask nicely for a tape. I believe it was Philippe who designated representatives for each world region (I remember Sandra won for Canada) - I think we need a list of the representatives and their e-mail addresses, so we can beg these people privately, and not have to clog the list. We also need to know what's required to get a tape (a funny joke? a money order? a blank tape?) I know that especially with the newbies, there will be a *lot* of questions about this. And if it was bad enough for Philippe to designate representatives in the first place, imagine the mail he is going to get now. And the list in general. Ugh. So say it once, and then they will have something to look up in the archives. SO, whoever my American angel is, please make yourself known, and I will get started on my end of the bargain. Hopefully you like cookies, no? :) Love, Miss Erin Peter Peter Pumpkin-eater, I hope this letter was interesting enough for you (fnar fnar). Someone has to be the pragmatist when Honey's not around. And Fluffy, if you ever read this far, I love your public ranting. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbgustat at xxx.net Tue Oct 6 03:22:37 1998 From: mbgustat at xxx.net (Mike Gustat) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 22:22:37 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Japan Message-ID: <01bdf0d0$2f5b0540$22e084a9@oemcomputer> Brett wrote: what do people think of other Jeepster bands. Mike exclaims with glee: Salako's Re-inventing Punctuation is a brilliant album! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From komis at xxx.edu Tue Oct 6 04:02:54 1998 From: komis at xxx.edu (Dmitry Komis) Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 22:02:54 -0500 Subject: Sinister: desperate and searching! Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19981005220254.007a1830@students.uiuc.edu> hello all, i just heard the horrible news....my ride for the B&S show in Chicago just bailed on me... im stranded alone in the cold, ruthless world. ANYONE out there going to the show, willing to give me a ride (or meet me somewhere)....Im at the University of Illinois at Champaign-Urbana....ill pay for gas, or do basically anything.... i know someone out there cares, and doesnt want me to miss the show e-mail me por favor, dmitry +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jgockley at xxx.edu Tue Oct 6 05:10:25 1998 From: jgockley at xxx.edu (Jessica Gockley) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 00:10:25 -0400 Subject: Sinister: aka Foxinasnow In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19981005220254.007a1830@students.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981006001025.00693950@beacon.eastern.edu> Hello, my lovelies. This is Jess, aka Foxinasnow at aol, aka the mysterious overseas stalker of all things Honey. I hope my month-and-a-half-long hiatus does not put me in the uncomfortable position of being labelled as one of those newcomers who hopped on board after the new album came out and thus force me to be subjected to bizzare initiation rites. I have a number of reasons for being gone so long, but anyway, i'm back now - and Honey, no fear, i've been watching you all along. Anyway, i had a B&S revelation today while reading my Early American Literature assignment! We had to read "Rip Van Winkle" by Washington Irving for class, and as i was making my way through the story, i came to a passage that sounded oddly familiar: "Times grew worse and worse with Rip Van Winkle as years of matrimony rolled on; a tart tempter never mellows with age, and a sharp tongue is the only edge tool that grows keener by constant use. For a long while he used to console himself, when driven from home, by frequenting a kind of perpetual club of the sages, philosophers, and other idle personages of the village, that held its sessions on a bench before a small inn, designated by a rubicund portrait of his majesty George the Third. Here they used to sit in the shade, of a long lazy summer's day, talk listlessly over village gossip, or tell endless sleepy stories about nothing. But it would have been worth any statesman's money to have heard the profound discussions that sometimes took place, when by chance an old newspaper fell into their hands, from some passing traveller. How solemnly they would listen to the contents, as drawled out by Derrick Van Bummel, the schoolmaster, a dapper learned little man, who was not to be daunted by the most gigantic word in the dictionary..." I got out my Tigermilk tape (thanks again, Miss Erin!), put on the end of "I Could Be Dreaming," and listened as the very words on my page were read aloud to me by the fabulous Belle and Sebastian (which of the girls does the singing and talking, by the way?). How exciting! Maybe Belle & Sebastian could begin a whole line of books-on-tape. I would pay to listen to them read my homework assignments aloud. I am way overdue on thanking Tara (?) who made me a lovely, lovely St. Etienne mix tape some time ago. I was out of town when it arrived, and i didn't remember her email address, and i kept forgetting to thank her on the list; but i want her to know how much i enjoy this tape. I'm in love with it. As soon as i come into some more funds, i will be investing in some of their cds. Who is going to the B&S show in Philadelphia on the 23rd? I bought my ticket as soon as i heard about the show. I've been going to the Troc far too often - Sunny Day Real Estate two weeks ago, and Elliott Smith just this past weekend, but what can i do when they keep booking all these fabulous bands? Love, Jess "You're always looking for a sign, but boy you blow it every time. You hear a voice begin to speak; you ignore it and go softly to sleep" - Belle & Sebastian Jessica Gockley | Box 326 Eastern College | 1300 Eagle Road | St Davids, PA 19087 | 610-965-2497 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vegasbaby at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 07:54:57 1998 From: vegasbaby at xxx.com (Courtney Knopf) Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 23:54:57 PDT Subject: Sinister: a little bit more blatant self promotion Message-ID: <19981006065458.2829.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi everyone, i just wanted to drop another reminder in your mailboxes to let you know it's tuesday (well almost), which means it's time for another edition of my radio show; "Swing and the Single Girl." You can find us on the web at http://kscr.usc.edu from 12-4am Pacific Time (8am wednesday in the UK, 5pm in Sydney, Aus). Just click on Live Stream to hear us in Real Audio. You can call in any requests at 213.740.1483. And I'm going to ask you to pardon my voice in advance, because i've got a terrible cold that came along with a not-so-nice case of laringitis, so i may sound a bit funny. Anyway, please tune in if you get a chance, and enjoy! ~Courtney ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Tue Oct 6 09:04:17 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:04:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Snoopy looper nuts are we. Message-ID: <199810060802.JAA24886@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Hi list, Its been a while since I've written, but having taken Tami's advice I visited the treehouse and heard the new looper tracks, and felt compelled to write. If you like everything else the StuD and Karn have done, well if you liked the single, then I'd take a little wander down to the site. If you didn't like it, well you are wrong. I also can't wait to hear the new songs that B&S did on the French Session, has anyone got any opinions on them? I know Funkyseb likes paperboat, but what about wrong love? And oh to have Isobel singing "that french song" on tape, oh I can't wait. Jake (kenny, you know the one from England) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sburon at xxx.fr Tue Oct 6 10:42:56 1998 From: sburon at xxx.fr (Stephane Buron) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 11:42:56 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian...on the radio...playing songs for Frenchmen... References: <5ce738c7.36190601@aol.com> Message-ID: <3619E619.61FA@club-internet.fr> Hi list! Just a quickie to tell you I was at the radio session yesterday night... What could I say? It was wonderful, once again. Here is the set list (sorry seb, no "Loneliness of a Mid-distance Runner") : The boy done wrong again Dog on Wheels Paper boat Seeing other people Century of fakers I know where the summer goes : during the news, unfotunately Mayfly The wrong girl Dirty dream number two Poupee de cire Poupee de son Slow Graffiti I don't love anyone Sleep the clock around : after 10.30, unfortunately again... Concerning the tapes, I'd love to be able to record a few ones BUT I dont have any double tape player... Sorry. Some of you have complained about Bernard Lenoir and news at the middle of songs... I know, that's a shame, but believe me, he would have preferred a 1 hour session without any interruption... Just to explain the situation in France : there is only one national radio on which you can listen to good music, and only one broadcast on this radio : it's Bernard Lenoir's... Many years ago, he was on a private radio but was fired. A few years ago, he arrived on France Inter (a public radio) and his broadcast lasted 1hour and a half... Now, he still is on this radio station but it lasts only 45 minutes. I know, it's a shame, but you listees have to realise that indiepop is not popular at all in France. So these news interruptions are the price we have to pay to hear Belle and Sebastian on the radio... Sorry again if you were disappointed. Stephane -- Visitez le Tweeclub sur http://www.chez.com/tweeclub "I had a job in an office once, I never talked to anyone..." Belle and Sebastian, Pocketbook Angel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Cebudo at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 11:55:20 1998 From: Cebudo at xxx.com (Cebudo at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 06:55:20 EDT Subject: Sinister: aka Foxinasnow Message-ID: In a message dated 10/6/98 12:12:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jgockley at beacon.eastern.edu writes: > Who is going to the B&S show in Philadelphia on the 23rd? I bought my > ticket as soon as i heard about the show. I've been going to the Troc far > too often - Sunny Day Real Estate two weeks ago, and Elliott Smith just > this past weekend, but what can i do when they keep booking all these > fabulous bands? i always miss everything there. i might be going to see belle and sebby... i hope hope hope so. andrew. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dkrhodes at xxx.au Tue Oct 6 12:11:04 1998 From: dkrhodes at xxx.au (Rhodes) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 19:11:04 +0800 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199810061109.VAA24064@buffy.tpgi.com.au> Unsubscribe Sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From goodforyoo at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 12:20:49 1998 From: goodforyoo at xxx.com (milla-isobel gregor) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 11:20:49 GMT Subject: Sinister: list tape Message-ID: <19981006112050.12741.qmail@hotmail.com> I think a tape sounds like a fantastic idea, and I'd love to be involved. Last summer my band played a couple of covers of b+s songs, one of which was You Made Me forget my dreams. We started off quiet and calm only acoustic guitar, then gradually bass and then my drummer on snare but building up till the last few bars were almost early spiritualized-type drowning sound. The only constants were the steady guitar and the voice which didn't change tone while everything else was getting bigger (vicar). Anyway a London rec.sesh sounds like an idea. Take care, MILLA ps anyone heard of Jeff Noon? I'm gonna go hear him read tonight. x ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From colli2rd at xxx.edu Tue Oct 6 15:47:14 1998 From: colli2rd at xxx.edu (Collins, Ryan D) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 07:47:14 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Subject: No subject Message-ID: Unsubscribe Sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bferneyhough at xxx.uk Tue Oct 6 13:43:01 1998 From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (Ben Ferneyhough) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:43:01 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Paperboat lyrics (I was bored !!) Message-ID: <199810061243.NAA21201@brookes.ac.uk> Afternoon all !! Sat here and thought I'd write the lyrics for Paperboat down. So here goes: I think it's going to be alright, I think it's going to be just fine, I think it's going to be much better than before, I think we're going to see the sun, I think we're going to have some fun, I think we're going to walk out through the open door, Maybe when I wake up in the morning, Maybe when the darken skies are blue, (not sure about this line) Maybe in a paperboat both to explore away, Underneath the river trees, Off towards the lazy sea, Underneath the pitch (?) that carries poeple home, As the church of Jesus Says, Off to find path of good ways, Sail off towards an adventure of our own, Maybe when I wake up in the morning, Maybe when the darken skies are blue, Maybe in a paperboat both to explore away, Trumpety bit. I think it's going to be goodbye. That's it. Probably littered with inaccuracies, but it's a start for people to argue about. Ben. __ _-==-=_,-. /--`' \_ at -@.--=\\_/`< ____ /= | \_| very nice too... / `\ _/=== \___/ \___/ //\./=/~\====\ \ // / | ===: | ._/_,__|_ ==: __ \/ \\ \\`--| / \\ | \\:| /==:-\ \__/``\____/ | |--|==: \ \ ===\ :==:`-' _> \ ===\ /==/ /==\ | ===\__/--/ <=== \ / ====\ \\/ _`-- \/ === \/--' /______/_______/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 13:47:40 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 08:47:40 EDT Subject: Sinister: Pat Butcher on Ice! Oh yeah! Message-ID: <4b5467a7.361a116c@aol.com> Fluffy Candarel wrote: << Hello shoes...I'm going to have to stand in you again...Dost thou remember when mark radcliffe used to do that? *ooh* :) >> No, fluffy, because he only said that in your diseased mind, when, in the dark, silent night, the voices start speaking to you... You're dead right though, nostalgia's a dangerous and powerful thing. It's nostalgia that makes me think 'ooh, weren't those old green buses nicer than these crappy new Arriva ones' , it makes me think 'In my day, Mars bars were the size and shape of Richard Rowntree's cock'*, and it makes me think 'more than 4 TV channels is just hedonism, and quite probably blasphemous.' Most worryingly, Nostalgia makes me think 'wasn't it great when those scottish losers barely got a mention on the sinister list, and it was all stream of conciousness bollocks and futile P!O!P! debates round here?' I dunno. Maybe it wasn't so great at the time.... No. I've just looked in the archives. It was. Sort it out, kids. All you quiet ones at the back! Write about what makes you smile, what makes you cry, what you think about when you're sitting through double maths, with nothing to look forward to except double PE. You quiet ones have the most to tell us. I still remember reading a post last year about a girl in the mountains, snowed in so she couldn't get to school, and thinking wow! There's someone else like me, going through the same things as me, humming the same happy bunny tunes, and she's on another continent! I was so touched... Please put something of your soul into your posts! Waffle a bit! Just think about all the scum sucking journos treating the list as their own private resource! D'you really want this to become a newsgroup, that they can just dip into? Don't feel you have to get to the point! At this point I have to appologise though. It appears that I've goosed the Queen Mother. Or rather, John Peel. I'm sorry everyone; Bernard Lenoir is not a cunt. Sorry. I was just a bit annoyed, and I got carried away. He's a very good DJ, and his show is fantastic. See? I'm the last person to give advice on what to post. But I thought I'd have one last try before I go the way of Brad and P!O!P!kins. Right, I'm off to the woods now. A cynic would say that I'm only going there for a cigarette, but there's more to it than that. I'm going to see my pond- an old wealden dew pond, fringed by whippy ashes; and knarled oaks, that bend their boughs low over the dark green water. It's silent there, but now and then, there'll be a clatter of branches, and a duck will explode from the trees, high into the grey air, chased by a brace of drakes. It's nicest at this time of year, when the green leaves are already dead on the trees, and the air is turning crisp at the edges. I can stand there, breathing ghosts into the air, and feel like a person. bye bye seb *Seeing how much the lay-dees liked to nibble his honourable member, the star of 'Shaft', 'Shaft in Africa', and 'Shaft about the House' founded a confectioners in his home town of York. The company would manufacture bars in his likeness to pleasure women in bathtubs in perpetuity. It bears his name to this day. It's called Terry's. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 13:51:38 1998 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 05:51:38 PDT Subject: Sinister: Ach mein cardie Message-ID: <19981006125144.11308.qmail@hotmail.com> Oooooh- hoooooo, I got my tickets for the D.C.-a-goo-goo gig yesterday.... anyone trying to dial the number from Ms. House's posting of gig numbers and dates should realize that the last two digits of the phonenumber she gave, for D.C. at least, are in fact reversed. I wonder, uh, is anyone else going? I hear no news whatsoever of D.C. being close to sold out, which is, I guess, in its own guilty way, fine by me. So yes, please, somebody write me and tell me what to wear. Information Studies? Sounds a bit circular....wouldn't that be, uh, ogyology or something? I read in Ben Goldberg's (guilty pleasure number 2 in case you're counting) "Badaboom Gramaphone" that Matador was to compile the EP's onto one CeeDee and release it..... is there truth to this? Fantasy cover.... ummm..... I'd love to hear the Roches(#3) have a go at "The Boy Done Wrong Again". With Bud Powell playing piano. And Leonard Cohen on turntables(#4). And Celine Dion clacking castanets, and, undermiked, humming, "Oooooooooooooh". Hee haw (#5). Get to work. Love, ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bajsjan at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 14:31:31 1998 From: bajsjan at xxx.com (jan thorneus) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 06:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: stuff 'bout tha tribute band Message-ID: <19981006133131.10718.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> Hey, Please tell me what song you are recording so i know. If you want you can record more than one. When you are finnished recording the song/songs you can send the tape to me. Here's the address: Jan Thorneus Hermes v�gen 23 98144 Kiruna Sweden If you got questions, here's my e-mail: Bajsjan at yahoo.com Or: Bee1000 at heehaw.com Or: Jennifer_ever at hotmail.com That's about all, Bye. Jan. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From richard.connell at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 14:31:02 1998 From: richard.connell at xxx.com (Richard Connell) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 14:31:02 +0100 (BST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <8202311406101998/A01561/ADVAX1/11CA339F0100*@MHS> Hi all, I seem to be asking lots of pointless questions of late, so here goes another. Having brought this months issue of uncut (a film and music magazine, not one devoted to pre-bah mitzvah jewish boys) and there is a free 4AD sampler CD on it. There is a song on there by This Mortal Coil which sounds pretty good. Ws this a fluke or are they actually any cop? As for comments about other Jeepster bands, I managed to pick up the Salako album in a second hand shop for 6 quid. Its alright, a bit like the footballer of the same name, plenty of skill with no real result. Some good experimentalism (the first song is a whimsical pop song over a prodigy-style breakbeat) but without the tunes to make it worthwhile. And at 20 tracks its a bit of a haul, but with a bit of sharpening of their songwriting skills and a bit less self-indulgance they might become a very good band. Also got the Beta Band album which is a cracker and no mistake. In a lazy journalist way i would describe it as Gomez meets the Orb which, thinking about it, sounds a bloody awful combination but works out quite well. One final point, does anyone know when the new Boo Radley's album is out? Sorry for the non-B&S content and general rambling but i am bloody bored at work and as i've said before my friends have no musical taste so this is the only time i get to talk about this sort of thing. I'll shut up now Rich +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Tue Oct 6 15:05:38 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:05:38 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: cover me badd In-Reply-To: <361905c6.617304@post.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 5 Oct 1998, Robert McTaggart wrote: > The only > good reasons for doing cover versions are to do something completely > different (some of us are already working on our Gabba version of "Fox > in the Snow"), to cover something Godlike, but relatively unknown and > bringing it to a wider public (like Mick Harvey's Gainsbourg > tributes), or to "take a shite song and make it better", like Saint > Etienne did with "Kiss and ma..."....why are you all looking at me > funny? I'd agree that there's no point just copying a song - Placebo's version of 20th Century Boy springs to mind as being identical to the original, why bother? But I think so long as it is noticeably different (and as such quite unexpected) it can work well. Watching the Divine Comedy last night playing Radioactivity by Kraftwerk was great, and although I don't think it was as good as the original it was different enough and suprising enough to be worthwhile. So if you're planning a techno remix of I Could Be Dreaming, or a "Vic Reeves, Pub Singer" rendition of Sleep The Clock Around, it would be worth the effort (even if it turns out rubbish). The only other reason I can think of to cover a song is if you love it and none else knows it, as seems to have been the case with Poupee de Son (or whatever it's called); but surely everyone here already knows all the B&S songs backwards? Oh well, each to their own I guess... Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From richard.connell at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 15:42:33 1998 From: richard.connell at xxx.com (Richard Connell) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 15:42:33 +0100 (BST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <2333421506101998/A02657/ADVAX1/11CA33EA1F00*@MHS> Is it me or are people being a bit serious about this cover versions thing being talked about? It is only a bit of fun after all, its not as if its going to be released or anything. I would agree that the only reason for a proper band to do a cover would be a complete reworking or an unknown song, but this is just some fans having a laugh which has to be a good thing if they enjoy themselves. You dont have to listen to the finished product (i know i probably wont be). Cheers, Rich +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bajsjan at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 15:48:05 1998 From: bajsjan at xxx.com (jan thorneus) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 07:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: more stuff Message-ID: <19981006144805.18741.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com> Hey folks. This songs have been "booked" for the tribut tape: Susannah's (the less amusing one) drunken brother is doing: "The state i am in" Kevan cooke is doing "Rollercoaster Ride" Jaume Benedito Tejera (is that your name or?)is doing "Judy and the dream of horses" And you who havent made up yer minds, you can just e-mail me when you have. Uhm, yea, i dont know what name we should have on the tape, if you have an idea, email me. I really really hope it wont take two years to make the tape :). Bye. Jan. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From akumulator at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 16:15:37 1998 From: akumulator at xxx.com (paul dean) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 11:15:37 EDT Subject: Sinister: NY - TIX Message-ID: <19981006151538.25012.qmail@hotmail.com> No No don't shoot I realise this is getting tedious, but a question to any NY peeps who went to the NY shows last year - were there many scalpers selling tickets outside - it's just my friend is planning to fly over form blighty for the sunday show & i'd hate it if we couldn't get tickets outside Thanks Paul (please mail me privately with any info) * INSTEAD OF LOVE & REVOLUTION WE'VE GOT AIDS & WHITNEY HOUSTON * ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ec2 at xxx.edu Tue Oct 6 16:41:57 1998 From: ec2 at xxx.edu (Eliot Cresswell) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:41:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: unsubscribe sinister ec2 at acsu.buffalo.edu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 16:54:56 1998 From: Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com (Jim Schmidt) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 98 08:54:56 MST Subject: Sinister: popscene thurs. Message-ID: <9809069076.AA907689495@mail.newtimes.com> --I hear they're giving away copies of Tigermilk to the first 50 people to show up. yeah, right...i was there last thursday and we bugged the dj about 5 times to play a b&s song and he wouldn't...so i wouldn't count on too many b&s songs being played...the best bet is probably to snag posters off the walls...when they had a spiritualized party, people were tearing huge wall-sized posters down as soon as the dancing started... jim. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 16:53:16 1998 From: Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com (Jim Schmidt) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 98 08:53:16 MST Subject: Sinister: B. Lenoir French sessions Message-ID: <9809069076.AA907689493@mail.newtimes.com> I thought I'd take this time to ask who the American rep is that I need to nag, er..., ask nicely for a tape. ... We also need to know what's required to get a tape (a funny joke? a money order? a blank tape?) So say it once, and then they will have something to look up in the archives. SO, whoever my American angel is, please make yourself known, and I will get started on my end of the bargain. Hopefully you like cookies, no? :) ---well, that would be me jim. and i am currently compiling a list of interested (and possibly interesting) young ladies/gents/pets who can't wait to hear this session... alas, i myself, do not have the aforementioned session in hand, but when i do, i will contact all of the boys and girls and animals who have presented themselves so kindly electronically. my email is or ...choose wisely...i check one more than the other (but i do check both)...oh forget that, PLEASE just choose one...i will respond when i receive the tape from our enchanting french ami, philippe...and i'll let each and every person know where to send the tape, postage, cookies, catnip, etc. until then, cheers. and on another note, miss erin, is it time to send off our tape tree tapes?...why i believe i just sent your personal beautiful creation north to canada...i cannot tolerate tardiness... virgoboy jim. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From John.Stuart at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 17:05:11 1998 From: John.Stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart/mail+schedule) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:05:11 -0700 Subject: Sinister: French sessions in the UK Message-ID: <93CA1ADD24AED111B6CF00A0C90676302F2B73@EDINBURGH> Could I ask the person from the UK who is receiving the french sessions tape, if I could please be sent a copy. I will of course send anything (tape, money, sae) they request. I would not mind sending copies of my copy to other listees, to help out. Could whoever you are reply to me and confirm this is okay? Cheers, John S. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From barzy at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 18:24:17 1998 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:24:17 -0800 Subject: Sinister: I saw The Acid House! Message-ID: And MAN..was it strange. In a good way..I think. If you've not read it, you'll be in a state of "WHAT THE?" but having read it...yeah. I thought it was great! It will either be subtitled, or not at all here in the states, as all the speaking is in Welsh's phonetic Scottish pronunciation...i'd imagine most American's would be totally befuddled. Oddly, I was so excited to see the film i'd forgotten all about "Slow Graffiti" until it popped up louder than anything. Not like a bit of it drifting in the backgroud whilst lovers strolled through a park..but sweet Stu's voice singing loud and strong while some twisted Irvine Welsh plot comes to life. I was so excited I squealed and started shaking my hands like a holly roller in church on Sunday. My mate who I was with (who thinks Belle & Sebastian sounds like "hippy dippy all over the place, music that goes no where and sounds like Greatfull Dead crap") just rolled her eyes. The soundtrack is reallllly good. Almost like they made a film just to do a soundtrack sort of thing. But all in all, was good. And I swear I spotted Welsh himself in the first bit sort of in the background sweeping something up, but maybe not. Slow Graffiti sounds sooooooo nice properly recorded. I want it now! No poncy Trashcan Sinatras gits though, that's Stork Maribu Nightmares...not sure when that one is out. beth +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MctaggartR at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 17:22:39 1998 From: MctaggartR at xxx.com (Mctaggart, Robert) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:22:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: You and your bloody oranges Message-ID: At last! The question I've been waiting for: Tami wrote: >can anyone reccomend some good cheese to me? I like cheese a lot, >especially gouda. Is Swedish cheese good, or would I just be >wasting my time? Far from it, Tami. I've had Swedish blue (no sniggering at the back) and I have to say it rules. It's like Danish blue, only better (maybe cos you can guarantee Peter Schmeichel's relatives were never involved in it). There are other kinds of Swedish cheese, you can buy them in IKEA along with maribou chocolate (God's own chocolate, you know), but they're more of your bog standard 'slice them up and stick them on your ryvita for breakfast' variety. I can't remember what any of them are called of course. Elsewhere, I've already sung the praises of Islay cheese. Cambazola rocks. Lancashire smoked cheddar is damn good. St Nectaire, Bavarian smoked cheese...the possibilities are endless. When Pulp went to Sweden, Russell asked the promoter there if he could try some of the local herring. The promoter backed away, saying "No, no, we don't have any of that". It was only later that Russell realised the guy thought he'd said 'heroin'. Jake wrote: >I hear they're giving away copies of Tigermilk to the first 50 >people to show up. Naughty boy. April 1st was 6 months ago. Rich wrote: >Having brought this months issue of uncut (a film and music >magazine, not one devoted to pre-bah mitzvah jewish boys) and there >is a free 4AD sampler CD on it. There is a song on there by This >Mortal Coil which sounds pretty good. Ws this a fluke or are they >actually any cop? Uncut, eh? Anyhoo, the song's "You and your sister" which is a cover of a Chris Bell (from Big Star) song and one of the best things TMC ever did, apart from "Song to the Siren" (the "famous" one) which is lovely. If you're prepared to wade through a lot of Dead can Dance type nonsense which leans worryingly towards Goth, there's a couple of goodies on the first LP, and the third one "Blood", That's the one with "You and your sister" and a couple of other pretty good songs, which I've forgotten the names of. I'm no bloody help at all, am I? Corpora wrote: >Fantasy cover.... ummm..... I'd love to hear the Roches(#3) have a go >at "The Boy Done Wrong Again". My fantasy cover is a particular Canadian girl I met in Glasgow earlier this year, covered in Swedish blue cheese. Love tag xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paul.field at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 17:28:28 1998 From: paul.field at xxx.com (Paul Field) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:28:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I saw The Acid House! Message-ID: <01BDF14E.BBC47740.paul.field@cmgplc.com> Madame Cholet Wrote: And MAN..was it strange. In a good way..I think. If you've not read it, you'll be in a state of "WHAT THE?" but having read it...yeah. I thought it was great! What....I knew they were making a film of it, but I haven't heard anything about it for ages... Is it only out in America at the mo'? Anyway, the current hero of Scottish fiction is Gordon Legge - mark my words! Sorry that was such a crap message, but I've been bored shitless all day and now I'ts home time and I'm going to the pub to get pished... Bye. Paul +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Calumn.Shearer at xxx.uk Tue Oct 6 18:05:26 1998 From: Calumn.Shearer at xxx.uk (Shearer, Calumn) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:05:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: RE: Your bloody oranges are not the only fruit Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Mctaggart, Robert [SMTP:MctaggartR at xxx.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 9:23 AM To: 'sinister at majordomo.net' Subject: Sinister: You and your bloody oranges [Shearer, Calumn] <> When Pulp went to Sweden, Russell asked the promoter there if he could try some of the local herring. The promoter backed away, saying "No, no, we don't have any of that". It was only later that Russell realised the guy thought he'd said 'heroin'. [Shearer, Calumn] When Kate Moss was at one of these famous peoples parties (do "stars" listen to belle & sebastian? apart from us, of course!) she was approached by Jeremy Clarkston who said "Hi! I'm Jeremy Clarkston, I do 'Top Gear' ". To which Oor Kate replied "Are you trying to sell me drugs?"... She was wrong, of course, but I always thought that Tiff was on something.... >I hear they're giving away copies of Tigermilk to the first 50 >people to show up. Naughty boy. April 1st was 6 months ago. [Shearer, Calumn] I thought it was 6 months away. [Shearer, Calumn] <> I know we're all very excited about the new sessions tapes, but come on - "read the nice archives". Or if you don't have web access, then ask someone to read them for you. Better yet, do as I do and keep the _important_ e-mails . That's what the save button's for, after all. Righ, sorry about that nagging, but It's 6:00 on Monday (sic - it feels like one!) Evening, and I'm still not out of work. (no, _not_ unemployed.... ) However, things are looking up.... I'm off home in about 20 mins. Im going to eat, then I'm off to the QM Union (Jim's bar - 9:30 - 10:00 'till later....come and have a drink, if you think... at all) Hey Tag! who's this Canadian girl then? Is it the same one I was chatting up ;-) Love, Hugs, and a little wrinkle of the nose (like a rabbit or a hamster, but WAY cuter!) cal +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From goon_koch at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 18:35:36 1998 From: goon_koch at xxx.com (Goon Koch) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 10:35:36 PDT Subject: Sinister: Lurker Revealed! Message-ID: <19981006173537.5762.qmail@hotmail.com> Well, I've been lurking for a while, but then Seb's (he always makes me laugh out loud) recent appeal to the quiet people flushed me out. So you see what you've done! I'm afraid you've awakened a potentially most unquiet person . . . I am not a journalist. Well, I was for one day when I was dispatched to review a singer-songwriter in a terrible poseur club near NYU. He sang so terribly earnestly, with a leather vest over an otherwise bare torso and a ludicrous cap to cover his bald spot. He was terrible, but I couldn't bear to trash him in my little school paper. So that was the end of a promising career in subsidized cruelty; quashed before it even began. It's been said here before, but: Why is the Philly show still not sold out? But I should say that, officially, the Troc is bigger (1200 vs. 1000!) than the Supper Club. I couldn't believe how packed the Elliott Smith show was there last week. But then I thought he did "between the bars" way too fast and there was way too much obnoxious talking in the bar upstairs. Must have been the people who didn't realize that this song was in the movie and they were supposed to pay attention. There probably will be scalpers for the NYC shows, but I would stop short of issuing assurances to people flying over from the UK for that very purpose. Which raises the question: why are you flying to the States for a B&S gig? Do you fly to Kenya to harvest ice floes too? But, in general, I would say that, yes, tickets will be scalped at some point prior to this show. I'm so excited about the 11/2 show! I've tried to start a meet-up thread on the Jeepster board, but there have been no takers yet. Someone mentioned Korova Milk Bar. Never been there, but sounds great to me. okloveyoubyebye, -g. k.- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chigger88 at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 18:38:53 1998 From: chigger88 at xxx.com (Rachael Bristol) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 10:38:53 PDT Subject: Sinister: One of the quiet ones... Message-ID: <19981006173854.8856.qmail@hotmail.com> FunkySeb (you old dog you) wrote: > I dunno. Maybe it wasn't so great at the time.... >No. I've just looked in the archives. It was. Sort it out, kids. All you quiet >ones at the back! When was it that people started adding the disclaimer "sorry no B&S content"? I remember at the time thinking, "Hm." I miss Brad too. His wry emails used to make me smile. I would always skip down and read his first. There should be a Brad fanclub. As for being quiet, well some of us just like to observe, perhaps feeling too inadequate to contribute. Two weeks ago, I jumped fourteen thousand feet out of an aeroplane. All my friends were yelling and screaming afterwards and I just stood and stared at the ground. They were asking me if I was okay or if I had been scared, etc. How could I tell them that, no, it was fantastic. I just didn't want to ruin it by jumping up and down and yelling. Last night, I watched the sun set over (into) the ocean. The sky turned red and violet and way off in the distance there was a giant tanker. Ah, to be that tanker. Always quietly drunken, Rachael ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ajax at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 18:52:35 1998 From: ajax at xxx.com (Jake Reichert) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:52:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Lovely SF show Message-ID: <199810061752.KAA10133@atari.saturn5.com> Hello listees (of both lists), Just thought I'd pass on news of a show coming up in San Francisco that may otherwise be overlooked. I'd known for some time that PJ Harvey was playing here, but never bothered to check to see who the opener was. Upon scanning the Guardian this morning, what to my wondering eyes did appear but that the opening band is, in fact, Rachel's! And just when I was starting to think that they'd treaded in some strange Midwestern glue that forced them to play from Urbana to Philly, but never out West. So I'll definitely be there with Bells & Whistles on. Hope to see some of you as well. -mrjake Is this the way the tigers do? How exactly do the tigers do? Hmmm. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ajax at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 19:07:37 1998 From: ajax at xxx.com (Jake Reichert) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:07:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: I saw The Acid House! In-Reply-To: from "Madame Cholet" at Oct 6, 98 09:24:17 am Message-ID: <199810061807.LAA10516@atari.saturn5.com> Oh, what to do. It's 11:00 am. Too late for breakfast, too early for lunch, and it feels like my stomach's about ready to take a joyride through the countryside if I don't take it out for a bit of excercise soon. So what will it be? Bagels? Burritos? It's food-limbo-time, apparently. And of course I had to open my mailbox to that whole cheese thread, didn't I... > And MAN..was it strange. In a good way..I think. If you've not read it, > you'll be in a state of "WHAT THE?" but having read it...yeah. I thought it > was great! Woah! I never even hear about this being thought of as a movie. I'm not sure how I missed out on that one... So are all the stories covered, or just some of them? How about "Vat whatever-that-year-was" (you know the one). > No poncy Trashcan Sinatras gits though, that's Stork Maribu > Nightmares...not sure when that one is out. Argh. And "Claw" came out what - two years ago now? I'm starting to doubt if it's ever going to happen. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Taranicole at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 19:53:06 1998 From: Taranicole at xxx.com (Taranicole at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 14:53:06 EDT Subject: Sinister: Tara's feeling quite ideal, her horoscope was nearly perfect Message-ID: <88c97209.361a6712@aol.com> <> Yay!! Andy we share the same birthday! Oh I don't know you but I feel a cosmic bond....hope you have a lovely day.. Tommy Stinson was born today, Puff Daddy thanked him on the Grammys in a speech, does anyone know why? it's Matthew Sweet's birthday too, he's alright...."girlfriend" was a great song. But why are there so many songs about Winona Ryder? has anybody written any Christina Ricci songs? The tribute tape is kind of a sweet idea, it would be nice to hear other fans' interepretations of the songs. unless one of you goes all Fatboy Slim on us. Then there will be trouble. Is brad really off the list?? too bad, he wrote the funniest things. Well i guess he will never know about the enormous but anonymous list crush I had on him. It's just between the 700+ of you and me, alright? Jim Schmidt, you were talking about popscene in SF?? Oh that one DJ is pure evil. He played ELO once. They have resisted the pressure of the cardie brigade in the past when we badgered them to play B&S. Someone said they played them once, a few months ago, at 10 o'clock or so before anyone had actually shown up (in order not to subject anyone to anything new or interesting I guess). One of the Djs says he looooves B&S but, just doesn't think it would fly on the dancefloor. Well! i never! Groove is in the *heart*. If you can't shimmy to Dirty Dream # 2, well you should just stay home i say. Enough rubbish for now. (it's not too late to send gifts!! I like the color pink! size 2!) tata, Tara, Bride of Chuckie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 21:08:32 1998 From: Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com (Anastasia Signoretta) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 16:08:32 EDT Subject: Sinister: Tara's feeling quite ideal, her horoscope was ... Message-ID: tara wrote: > Tommy Stinson was born today, Puff Daddy thanked him on the Grammys in a > speech, does anyone know why? sad that i know this, but...tommy stinson was in puff daddy's rock version video for 'all about the benjamins.' tommy is the spiky-haired one and looks rather good, i must admit. wanna bumble with the beez, bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... it's also kate's birthday today...kate who was high-schooled with lorraine and me...i wonder if *she* like belle and sebastian... OH...also, do any of you nyc/area listees frequent the korova on mondays? is it *really* called 'urban hymns?' oh dear. tell me if it's any good. people tell me yes but i want to know what YOU think. also, any tiswas kids on the list and is korova better/worse than tiswas? cheers, stasia anastasia signoretta atlantic records international media relations 1290 avenue of the americas 24th floor new york, ny 10104 212.707.2619 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 'but how can i see stars if my feet are on the ground?' ride ------------- Original Text >From , on 10/6/98 2:53 PM: <> Yay!! Andy we share the same birthday! Oh I don't know you but I feel a cosmic bond....hope you have a lovely day.. Tommy Stinson was born today, Puff Daddy thanked him on the Grammys in a speech, does anyone know why? it's Matthew Sweet's birthday too, he's alright...."girlfriend" was a great song. But why are there so many songs about Winona Ryder? has anybody written any Christina Ricci songs? The tribute tape is kind of a sweet idea, it would be nice to hear other fans' interepretations of the songs. unless one of you goes all Fatboy Slim on us. Then there will be trouble. Is brad really off the list?? too bad, he wrote the funniest things. Well i guess he will never know about the enormous but anonymous list crush I had on him. It's just between the 700+ of you and me, alright? Jim Schmidt, you were talking about popscene in SF?? Oh that one DJ is pure evil. He played ELO once. They have resisted the pressure of the cardie brigade in the past when we badgered them to play B&S. Someone said they played them once, a few months ago, at 10 o'clock or so before anyone had actually shown up (in order not to subject anyone to anything new or interesting I guess). One of the Djs says he looooves B&S but, just doesn't think it would fly on the dancefloor. Well! i never! Groove is in the *heart*. If you can't shimmy to Dirty Dream # 2, well you should just stay home i say. Enough rubbish for now. (it's not too late to send gifts!! I like the color pink! size 2!) tata, Tara, Bride of Chuckie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cchaffin at xxx.org Tue Oct 6 20:36:44 1998 From: cchaffin at xxx.org (Christa Chaffinch) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 15:36:44 -0400 Subject: Sinister: join our club Message-ID: Does anyone on the list from the DC area know of a pre-show get-together, or is interested in having one? I was just wondering. I would be up for a party or a shin- dig at a bar somewhere...? You can email me privately with any good ideas. (or bad ones too for that matter). Sorry to everyone else that this just DOES NOT apply to... Love to all, Christa I'm ready for my trade-off now, J... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Tue Oct 6 21:10:11 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 21:10:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I am the sessions boy. Message-ID: <199810062008.VAA20685@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Hi its Jake here, one of the 2 UK tape distributers , if thats what you can call us ( I think the other is the Duke, but don't quote me on that), for the french sessions. I haven't got a copy yet to record on. But in the mean time I'll collect the addresses of those wanting a tape. I would really appreciate tapes and/or stamps if you could, it's just I'm a poor old student blahblahblah, but at least I have plenty of time on my hands. Anyway Email me privately and we can sort out details and addresses. Jake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From twinkle at xxx.net Tue Oct 6 21:26:02 1998 From: twinkle at xxx.net (petula) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 20:26:02 GMT Subject: Sinister: popscene thurs. Message-ID: <199810062026.UAA04604@trapdoor.aracnet.net> Hello hello! (said like Bubble) At 08:54 AM 10/6/1998 MST, Jim Schmidt wrote: > yeah, right...i was there last thursday and we bugged the dj about 5 > times to play a b&s song and he wouldn't...so i wouldn't count on too > many b&s songs being played...the best bet is probably to snag posters > off the walls...when they had a spiritualized party, people were > tearing huge wall-sized posters down as soon as the dancing started... Well now Jim, are you surprised? I spent 4 months of my life in the Bay Area last year and knew all the horrors of Poopscene, which, thankfully, I did not bother with after one or two visits. Oh sure, some will say it's easy to slag a club or "it's better than nothing". Are you maaaaad? No, damnit: revolt, resist against clubs who think that mod means playing one Jam song a week, umm, guess which one! Where jocks take over the dance floor when the WOO HOO song comes on, and a bitchy girl walks around selling candy like a cigarette girl, only honey, we don't want Pez, we want Marlboro Lights. Don't you find it rather revolting that they're having a B&S promo night, but the DJ won't play them? Is that not pathetic, schmoozing for free promo stuff for the sake of it? And where half the attendees will probably forget their freebies in the loo in a drunken haze, or hock them and the promos will show up in Mod Lang the next day. I say you all show up early, take all the posters and stuff and RUN. Find a pub that will let you play records all night, tape up the posters and start your own fun. Even better, take your treasures home and have a private disco in the comfort of your living room, which now looks like the Jeepster HQ only the posters are a bit wrinkled. Comrade Elisa xx p.s. Jim, I loved reading SF Weekly while I was there, lucky you working there! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cadoret at xxx.fr Tue Oct 6 00:40:24 1998 From: cadoret at xxx.fr (denis cadoret) Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 23:40:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: French fries, French bread, French dressing... In-Reply-To: <19981003223605.13469.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981005234024.00697338@mail.club-internet.fr> At 15:36 03/10/98 PDT, Erin Lewis wrote: > >Hey kids, > Philippe writes the most beautiful letters, doesn't he? I just >want to say thank you to Philippe and Mark C and everyone else who says >they like Americans. I have experienced the "I hate all Americans, but >I guess *you're* okay..." and it's so nice to think there *are* >welcoming arms in every country. I know America has a bad rep >sometimes, especially what we read of France's opinion of us. I know >many people who are scared to visit France, for fear they all hate us. >If there are even five boys and girls in France as nice as Philippe and >the other Sinisterines, I will have to take a holiday there. Let's have >a picnic, I say. > >I love you all to pieces, > >Miss Erin, who just ordered her small Stow t-shirt and is happy, happy, >happy as a texturized vegetable protein clam substitute > here's another Frenchie, who USED TO be an american hater. Well, I still loathe 90 % of your culture and people, but as for the 10% remaining, wow wonderful. by the way, most of my faves bands or films are American. So..... I've just realised that the 10% applies to every country actually. And France may be 5% only. You see, I'm more a (fake) misanthropist than a real American hater. that's true I can't abide a stressed american accent. Denis +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From simon-asa.hammarstrom at falun.mail.telia.com Tue Oct 6 21:46:06 1998 From: simon-asa.hammarstrom at falun.mail.telia.com (Simon =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hammarstr=F6m?=) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 22:46:06 +0200 Subject: Sinister: sinister: help Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981006224606.007daae0@m1.225.telia.com> dear b&s fans, I wonder if it some kind soul who maybe can send me a copy of tigermilk? I´m real sorry to bother you, but I´m feeling pretty desperat..hope you understand me dear wishes, /Simon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Delaware9 at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 22:06:18 1998 From: Delaware9 at xxx.com (Delaware9 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:06:18 EDT Subject: Sinister: a ticket for DC? Message-ID: <72b89cdf.361a864a@aol.com> Hi everyone, I was wondering if there are any kind souls out there who could possibly help me out. I need a ticket for the show at the Black Cat in Washington DC...I am in western Virginia and obviously cant go there to get one, and I have no credit card so I cant order one by phone. Are there any of you who either have an extra ticket or could get me one if I sent a check or money order? (Respond privately of course.) I would be very grateful.... thank you, sorry to clutter the list Jessica Delaware9 at aol.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 22:48:20 1998 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Pookie MacFiddle) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 14:48:20 PDT Subject: Sinister: you make me feel uncomfortable,and i like that,i need that Message-ID: <19981006214821.26444.qmail@hotmail.com> hello honeyz, >and you know the crazy thing? Then enforce the restriction. My friend was >stopped outside the Supper Club for the Supergrass show cause the guy thought >he was 15. How can you tell the difference between a 15 and 16 year old. I >sure can't! that is really stupid...why they do this..i know 19 year olds that look 13,and 17 yearolds that look 30,i guess..they have to (but they only have all ages so they can sell booze and make cash,but i don't get that...it's not like underage drinkers can't find booze on our own)..but with 19+ i can at least understand in a way,they are trying to be slightly moral..but come on 15 and 16! my goodness,we're not children...it's just really hard to tell,and how can they prove? like i say,there should be intelligence/maturity tests that prove if you can certain places... the only thing we get our the cartes d'etudiants..and all you need is wite-out and a black pen to fix that problem (they ARE that cheap) I agree with listening to Belle And Sebastian in the car (as long as you're not driving) it verrrry beautiful,with the sloping valleys,rolling green hills..the horses galloping along! And right now,with the leaves changing,'red and yellow and pink(well no) and green'...happy sigh of content who is Kitt? what messages in taxi's? Is this inside joke? more about cars: parents and future parents,never ever ever disappoint your children over something as special as a belle and sebastian concert,it will come to venomously bite you in the ass months later. I get my driving license in 8 months...will there be more New York City picnics in future times? you know what bothers me about some girls? they think belle and sebaastian sound like hanson! and then i just make TINY retort over their marylin manson and i get 'Don't make fun of it if you don't understand it!' i'm sorry,but if you found mister marylin in your cupboard wouldn't you pick up his slimy worm body with 2 sticks and throw him out in the garbage!?!? a warning over the belle and sebastian homemade tribute tape: this happened before with a certain band,everyone said they would,then about 3 people did...i went over to record at this guys house,and then a bit later he divorced his wife...so,wear lots of good luck charms..but no rabbit's feet...oh my god,did you know those are REAL..i thought they were just,simulation-feet. my my,toronto ticket people are cranky! maybe you don't understand just what they say they get all 'YOU DON'T PAY MY BILLS,BITCH!' on you,i don't know how many tickets are left..i thinik there are still a lot,and they are just saying no to make you buy lots..ottawa ticket people are much nicer,for this kangaroo show i called,and i got a nice old granny on the phone! they are so much more honest and joking. where did ROdddddd The Bod go? mon amour! mon cheri! oui oui ouiiii...min namen alskling! fiddle dee dee xoxoxo genevieve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Tue Oct 6 22:50:58 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 22:50:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Por que te vas? Message-ID: Hi my little Cleopatra fans! how are you! I'm great 'cos I've just listened to a fab song on a FAB film which makes me happy....the film is called CRIA CUERVOS (Raise ravens) and it's fab, but heres the main reason for the post.... the film has this song in it which Ana plays on her Dansette (or whatever) and they dance around the living room to it, until their grandmother calls them, and Ana goes to attend to her. And this song, I don't know who it's by, but it's fab. I think it may be called Por Que Te Vas (?), and my Spanish tutor has an idea it's by Marie Trine (?) - but we're not sure. It's an old choon so she says, but I think it's pretty bangin' cha? Does anyone know what this song is, or where I could get hold of it? Hay alguien en Espana que le sabe? Um, excuse my bad Spanish if that was wrong :) Porque me gusta mucho encontrarlo porque soy un poco mierda..... It may be on the film soundtrack... I am SURE there is much better Spanish Pop music about, if it's along the same style as Por Que Te Vas it can't get much better.... when I was ill in Tenerife, there were a load of strange dudes who did Kareoke songs on Toma Nota. It was funny. the song was called Bimbo and it SCARED ME. Tag wrote some stuff about cheese, may I add that the very mature cheddar you can get from our Spar is the best cheese in the world ever? And also that while on da cheese tip (wow...i'm going to say that more often...) that DAIRYLEA DUNKERS (especialyl with teh garlic chipsticks) are gods own food.... Stop being such wankers you lot about READING THE ARCHIVES!!! You're being more boring than everybody else who GOT THE HINT with the nine millionth message from someone whose been on the list EVER SINCE 3...6....9.. 'cha and thus knows their biscuits.....every bloody post, shut up....sorry....but it's a wee bit dull and monotonous...like mee... ah well, I am SURE no-one has posted to the list about this particular question of mine before so I am not going to waste 5 mins calling up my crappy browser and another 2 mins rebooting the pooter when it crashes and thentrying again, grrr d'oh! I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Candarel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 23:04:19 1998 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Pookie MacFiddle) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 15:04:19 PDT Subject: Sinister: French fries,French bread,French dressing... Message-ID: <19981006220419.25276.qmail@hotmail.com> ...but the french love canadiens,yes? Well,at least according to this teacher I know,or maybe he just tells those stories so we feel special... "My children,I was in France one day,on a day not unlike today.I was sitting in a little cafe,all by myself and I could hear the passer-by's whispering at me,insulting me...you know,they thought I was American. So I stood up,yes I got right up off my chair,and stared right back at those mocking faces and said JE SUIS CANADIEN. They started to appluad one by one." couldn't that just be a Molson commercial? the other story he told me was that if i would get beat up in europe unless i sewed a canadian flag to my sac a dos... ah,it's the irish who are the coolest anyways. sugar,sugar genny-pooh ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ajax at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 23:05:46 1998 From: ajax at xxx.com (Jake Reichert) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:05:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: French fries, French bread, French dressing... In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19981005234024.00697338@mail.club-internet.fr> from "denis cadoret" at Oct 5, 98 11:40:24 pm Message-ID: <199810062205.PAA17614@atari.saturn5.com> > here's another Frenchie, who USED TO be an american hater. Well, I still > loathe 90 % of your culture and people, but as for the 10% remaining, wow > wonderful. This reminds me of one of my favorite quotes, from the late science fiction writer Theodore Sturgeon: "Eighty percent of all science fiction is crap. Then again, eighty percent of everything is crap." Lucky for me, Brie, kissing, and my stuffed monkeys fall under the other 20% (although the three are rarely seen in combination). TTFN, mrjake I want Herbie Hancock's fingers. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From krissy9 at xxx.us Tue Oct 6 23:31:58 1998 From: krissy9 at xxx.us (Krissy) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 16:31:58 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V2 #392 In-Reply-To: <199810061356.OAA01205@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi, all! Does anyone have a CDR version of Tigermilk that they would be willing to *sell*? I've tried all the straightways, and now I'm going into the black market. But what else can I do?? E-mail me, if you can help--- (hi, roberta) Krissy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 23:39:50 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (JJ) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 23:39:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: happiness is easy......little ships of Galilee References: <8202311406101998/A01561/ADVAX1/11CA339F0100*@MHS> Message-ID: <361A9C36.32ED@seahouses.u-net.com> Richard Connell wrote, innaccurately: > I seem to be asking lots of pointless questions of late, so here goes another. > Having brought this months issue of uncut (a film and music magazine, not one > devoted to pre-bah mitzvah jewish boys) does one normally have one's barmitzvah when they're a week old? or is the magazine about the first 12 years of a jewish male's life? someone please explain! JJ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Tue Oct 6 23:54:12 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (JJ) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 23:54:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Cheese and This Mortal Coil References: Message-ID: <361A9F94.181A@seahouses.u-net.com> Mctaggart, Robert wrote: > Cambazola rocks. Lancashire smoked cheddar is damn good. St > Nectaire, Bavarian smoked cheese...the possibilities are endless. Tag knows about cheese, oh yes, for he IS the cheesemeister. I would recommend a nice applewood smoked cheddar, or my favourite which is white stilton with apricot, a variation on this and no less exciting is wensleydale with cranberries in it. I used to like a nice blue stilton but went off that. Tag, I bought some bavarian smoked cheese ESPECIALLY FOR YOU last friday, except I left it in the fridge at work. That's why I couldn't come round, I was too ashamed. Someone asked about This Mortal Coil, I haven't heard the first album, the one with Song To The Siren on it (was it called It'll End In Tears?) but I have heard another one, it has a womans head on the cover and is vaguely brown ish. Dunno what it's called but it's very good indeed, it could be called 'Blood' but I'm not sure. I thought it was the 2nd LP but Tag says 3rd, so he's probably right. 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com Wed Oct 7 01:16:03 1998 From: Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com (Anastasia Signoretta) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 20:16:03 EDT Subject: Sinister: happiness is easy......little ships of Galilee Message-ID: cos i'm still at work, and i'm bored... > Having brought this months issue of uncut (a film and music magazine, not one > devoted to pre-bah mitzvah jewish boys) > does one normally have one's barmitzvah when they're a week old? > or is the magazine about the first 12 years of a jewish male's life? i think he's referring to the religious ceremony (what it's called, i forgot) during which a jewish baby boy is circumcised. that would NOT be the bar mitzvah, that happens around the age of twelve or thirteen and i think circumcision at that time would be rather painful, though i am a girl and maybe have no right to make such judgments. i do need to go home. now. but i can't just yet. enjoy your mornings/evenings... stasia anastasia signoretta atlantic records international media relations 1290 avenue of the americas 24th floor new york, ny 10104 212.707.2619 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 'but how can i see stars if my feet are on the ground?' ride ------------- Original Text >From "JJ" , on 10/6/98 7:11 PM: Richard Connell wrote, innaccurately: > I seem to be asking lots of pointless questions of late, so here goes another. > Having brought this months issue of uncut (a film and music magazine, not one > devoted to pre-bah mitzvah jewish boys) does one normally have one's barmitzvah when they're a week old? or is the magazine about the first 12 years of a jewish male's life? someone please explain! 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Message-ID: <361AAC12.CD9A9D66@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Hi folks, can you advise me? my friend marco#7 pushed me to start playing music (i mean B&S music) but i have only a little traumatic experience. when i was thirteen i played a red plastic made pipe at school without good results, infact during the christmas final essay my teacher asked me making a bleak playback to not disturb the other ones. now i'm 25 and for B&S huge love i want to try again, but which is my instrument? cooke's trumpet or jackson's guitar ? cheers, Passi, the boy with arab question. P.S. Jan, if you need two years to collect all the tapes i hope i'll send you the last one. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From goon_koch at xxx.com Wed Oct 7 03:35:13 1998 From: goon_koch at xxx.com (Goon Koch) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 19:35:13 PDT Subject: Sinister: monday people of new york unite Message-ID: <19981007023513.25592.qmail@hotmail.com> Comrades, Jonny and I have been conspiring about a New York meet-up, but we haven't made much progress by ourselves. I would like nothing better than to take charge and boss people around and organize the whole damn thing with a corporate sponsor and police escort and whatnot but I won't. I lack the confidence and self-esteem. That, and the unfortunate logistical impossibility of being in NYC before eight. So for after the show, I thought that we should try and gather right outside the club rather than attempt to fix some other location (club, bar etc.). That way we can at least pat each other on the back and exchange hugs and personally express our mutual admiration for our collective good taste (not to mention aesthetic standards and credibility) before we disperse and possibly conduct our own little cardie diaspora, wandering about the hostile canyons of midtown. Is there some way of discretely flying our colors? I've already proposed top hats and aprons. I've received no acclaim. How about brightly colored scarves? Can somebody propose a nearby landmark instead? Sorry if you think this is too early for such detailed plans. I just want to make sure it will work. I'm an engineer. I can't help trying to be efficient. okluvyoubyebye, -g. k.- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Wed Oct 7 03:36:39 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 22:36:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: French fries,French bread,French dressing... Message-ID: what's all this bother about not liking americans? it's rather a broad statement, and one that can't be substantiated. i mean, you can dislike the things our national government does, the fringe groups, aspects of our history, but hating a diverse group of people is ridiculous. and pretending that you understand a whole nation based on a handful of tv shows, news programs, and bad pop bands is equally ridiculous. take your bigotry elsewhere. xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From csomeone at xxx.com Wed Oct 7 04:06:15 1998 From: csomeone at xxx.com (Cynthia Someone) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 20:06:15 PDT Subject: Sinister: on lurking and not talking Message-ID: <19981007030616.21814.qmail@hotmail.com> while communication can be so powerful, I can't say my own communications are entirely meaningful. my whole life, the things i think about are irrelevant to me. Spend ten hours a day trying to look busy, another 2 in traffic. My evenings and weekends are escapes for me. I feel human again, then. But even then, i don't say anything. I mean really say anything. I lead a secret life at work, full of emails from sweet people and music that my workplace laughs at secretly, uncomprehending. British pop, Brazilian music are escapes for me, partially because they aren't inspired by the things of America's heartland. And I'm at war with America's heartland and all it stands for ... I put the jeepster jpeg of that painting of two kittens at a lady's breast on my desktop (is that the tigermilk cover or a winner in a contest? it wasn't clear) and one of the girls made an exclamation of disgust, how sick the picture was. meanwhile, she spends time laughing at pornographic fetishy images and retards. She's going to the jimmy Buffet concert tonight. A nice girl for all that. When you're constantly a fish out of water, one needs a secret life, observant, half-dream, clear-eyed. But it makes me quiet, and unwilling to share or develop my true self. perhaps i should be braver, but courage without reason is just foolish aggression, and I have yet to create my mission. Cynthia "Don't wait for it," I said. "Create a world, your world. Alone. Stand alone. Create. and then the love will come to you, then it comes to you. It was only when I wrote my first book that the world I wanted to live in opened to me." --anais nin ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Wed Oct 7 05:05:02 1998 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:05:02 EDT Subject: Sinister: any possible US television appearances? Message-ID: <829d3fe5.361ae86e@aol.com> Since this is the first official stateside tour, does anyone from Jeepster know if B&S is scheduled to appear on Conan O'Brian or the David Letterman shows while in NY? Will that Sessions at 54th show ever air too?? Pete +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From richard.connell at xxx.com Wed Oct 7 08:29:58 1998 From: richard.connell at xxx.com (Richard Connell) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 08:29:58 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: happiness is easy......little ships of Galilee In-Reply-To: <361A9C36.32ED@seahouses.u-net.com> Message-ID: <4858290807101998/A01941/ADVAX1/11CA3A1D3900*@MHS> >does one normally have one's barmitzvah when they're a week old? >or is the magazine about the first 12 years of a jewish male's life? Oops. Pedant of the week award goes to........JJ. Ok so i buggered up on the finer points of jewish culture but ive always said never let facts get in the way of a good joke, or a bad joke for that matter. Rich +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From WarranderJ at xxx.uk Wed Oct 7 09:46:28 1998 From: WarranderJ at xxx.uk (Warrander John - FML) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:46:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: RE: Meet Sinister "personality" Message-ID: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B0036CE05@gateway.finnigan.co.uk> Hello All, Mr Peter Miller has been soliciting smut: >you'd be better off with "Blue Movie" Tut, tut Mr Miller. Keep it clean. There are some Sarah fans on this list. After the BBC2 "Erotica" evening a while back I'm quite tempted though. Especially if it's a 70s British bluey. Some pasty bloke with a mullet bonking the mum from the oxo family in a stunning speeded up scene with a bare backside in view. Very erotic. Of course, the coup de grace was the very cheesy background music. I wonder why they stopped making "confessions" films then? To the point though. Mr Robert "MC Taggart" McTaggart will be venturing forth from his bedroom in a couple of Saturdays time. Armed with his carrier bag of obscure European pop greats that nobody likes and Northern Soul comps on Kent that everybody loves. He will be strutting his stuff and spinning some mean tunes at Manchester's Smile. Anybody in the Manchester area that fancies going along and offering a bit of moral support would probably be appreciated. None of Smile's regulars like our little Robert. Something to do with his inability to fully understand the simple request "will you play some fucking Charlatans, PLEASE!!!". You'll be able to identify Robert by his big smile and abnormally petite feet. I've never dared look at his feet myself but I have noticed some shoes lying around his house that I assumed belonged to a small child. And tip for the day. If you're intending going along to any of the Rocket >From The Crypt gigs with Australian rock gods You Am I supporting. Be sure and get there early and don't miss one second of the antipodean legends. They blew Manchester away last night and they've helped me come to terms with the fact that I'm going to miss Motorhead's 20th anniversary gig on Friday. Boo! Rock 'n' Rule people love...John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Wed Oct 7 09:56:08 1998 From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (Michael Jones) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 01:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: This Mortal Coil, half-remembered Message-ID: <19981007085608.2451.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> Hello gang... In my grim, formative years I had a penchant for the foaming pit of studied melancholia and studio experimentation that was This Mortal Coil. Before my lingering 4AD-fetish had finally been extinguished by one too many Frank Black digipaks in the middle of this decade, I even persuaded someone who is now a Prominent Listee to obtain for me the box-set, comprising all three albums and a bonus disc of originals, from the United States. It was shortly after this that things rather fell apart - the originals, in all their hissy, dated glory, so far surpassed most of the TMC versions, that I vowed never to listen to a polished, avant-goth reading of a 70s folk-pop obscurity again. There were three LPs: "It'll End In Tears" (1984) - wherein Lisa Gerrard and Brendan Perry do their damnedest to turn Ivo Watts-Russell's pet project into a Dead Can Dance record, and Elizabeth Fraser wraps her larynx around Tim Buckley and Roy Harper; I puzzled for years about the heart-stopping opening lines to "Another Day", until I discovered that Mad Liz was warbling something like "You put the kettle on...". A couple of terrific Big Star covers too, one with Howard Devoto. "Filigree & Shadow" (1986) was twice as long, had lots of nice droney bits, helicopter noises and eerie androgynous spins on "Come Here My Love" (Van Morrison) and "I Must Have Been Blind" (Buckley again). "Blood" (1991) was my favourite record in the world for a good three months; there's a lot of guitar-waffle on there and too much of that Shelleyan Orphan woman, so I can't understand why. Kim Deal and Tanya Donelly do lovely things with Chris Bell's "You and Your Sister" (as featured on the Uncut sampler), and elsewhere there are not-too-bad interpretations of Emmylou Harris and Mary Margaret O'Hara songs. Ivo revived the project this year under the name The Hope Blister and, er, my Mum bought it me for my birthday (true !). Despite featuring songs from a couple of my fave records (Sylvian's "Beehive", Cale's "Paris 1919"), it's not much cop and just features the one vocalist (Louise Rutkowski). Thesedays, if it's not New Peruvian ArtStep, chances are I'm not interested... Mike. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Wed Oct 7 10:19:28 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:19:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Blue Cheese Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7B90@COR-EXG1> The Wanderer wrote : >Mr Peter Miller has been soliciting smut: Where've you been the last 12 months ??? >Tut, tut Mr Miller. Keep it clean. There are some Sarah fans on this >list. >After the BBC2 "Erotica" evening a while back I'm quite tempted though. >Especially if it's a 70s British bluey. Some pasty bloke with a mullet >bonking the mum from the oxo family in a stunning speeded up scene >with a bare backside in view. Very erotic. Of course, the coup >de grace was the very cheesy background music. I wonder why they >stopped making "confessions" films then? Did anyone see that shit on Channel 4 late last night...I was gobsmacked. I never knew they were allowed to show shit like that on terrestial TV...outrageous. Naturally I turned it off straight away......the moment it finished.....well it was quite late you know. A quickie for Robert McBobbert and the rest of you evil cheeseworshippors. This just landed in my inbox. >A new home is needed for a 3 year old registered Toggenburg Nanny Goat, >in milk, quiet and easy to handle. A reduction in stock forces sale. Any >sensible offers will be considered. Please ring 01626 824884 for further >details. Grow your own ??? A Sinister cheese, exclusive to the list and a slap-up great curry at the end of it all. I HATE CHEESE. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From michaela.clarke at xxx.com Wed Oct 7 10:31:14 1998 From: michaela.clarke at xxx.com (Michaela Clarke +44 (131) 343 5940) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 10:31:14 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: playing belle and seb whilst driving Message-ID: <4514311007101998/A59230/MULL/11CA3A9F0D00*@MHS> hello everyone I thought I'd put my two penneth in genevieve wrote >I agree with listening to Belle And Sebastian in the car (as long as >you're not driving) it verrrry beautiful,with the sloping >valleys,rolling green hills..the horses galloping along! And right >now,with the leaves changing,'red and yellow and pink(well no) and >green'...happy sigh of content and it reminded me of my holidays. My boyfriend and I packed up the car with booze and tent and yummy food and set of for the highlands and islands of Scotland. It being the day that the boy with the arab strap came out, Andy dashed out to the shops, bought the CD and then made a quick tape copy for the car, being careful not to listen to the album whilst he recorded it so as not to spoil the surprise. You see the big plan was that we would start our holiday with the first listen to the album in the car (sad gits, I know.) What with all the excitement, we completely forgot to pack any other tapes, so our week long sightseeing tour had only one sound track and a beautiful one at that. the moral of this story is ( if you have followed me so far ) you can drive and listen to B and S (even on the single-track-with-passing-places roads of the Isle of Mull) as long as you are careful kiddies and remember if you are only going to take one tape on holiday make sure it's a good one thank you for letting me share that with you hogs and snugs K'la xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aszolnoki at xxx.com Wed Oct 7 10:45:36 1998 From: aszolnoki at xxx.com (Andras Zalan Szolnoki) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 02:45:36 PDT Subject: Sinister: About the radio-ses. Message-ID: <19981007094537.15068.qmail@hotmail.com> I�m sorry if this has been on the list before , but who is the person I should beg on my knees for a copy of the french sessions ???????? I live in Norway............... Ciao Szola ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bcaron at xxx.fr Wed Oct 7 11:02:50 1998 From: bcaron at xxx.fr (bertrand CARON) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 12:02:50 +0200 Subject: Sinister: black session Message-ID: <361B3C4A.D5A1EE5F@enserg.fr> i recorded the radio session of B&S monday on the french radio... If some of you are interrested write directly to me at bcaron at enserg.fr +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mlbarbat at xxx.com Wed Oct 7 13:13:25 1998 From: mlbarbat at xxx.com (marga) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 13:13:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Por qué te vas??? Message-ID: <361B5AE4.65E5C71B@madnetro.com> Hola! What a surprise! Something in Spanish. I'm from Madrid and perhaps the only Spanish girl in this list?! The song "Por qué te vas?" is by Jeannette, a very popular singer in Spain, but she isn´t Spanish. It was written by Jose Luis Perales (the only great song he has written, i think) . I didn´t know that this song was famous in other countries. The french duo Air said it was one of their favourites of all times.! Marga bitter Amarga ---- Hi my little Cleopatra fans! how are you! I'm great 'cos I've just listened to a fab song on a FAB film which makes me happy....the film is called CRIA CUERVOS (Raise ravens) and it's fab, but heres the main reason for the post.... the film has this song in it which Ana plays on her Dansette (or whatever) and they dance around the living room to it, until their grandmother calls them, and Ana goes to attend to her. And this song, I don't know who it's by, but it's fab. I think it may be called Por Que Te Vas (?), and my Spanish tutor has an idea it's by Marie Trine (?) - but we're not sure. It's an old choon so she says, but I think it's pretty bangin' cha? Does anyone know what this song is, or where I could get hold of it? Hay alguien en Espana que le sabe? Um, excuse my bad Spanish if that was wrong :) Porque me gusta mucho encontrarlo porque soy un poco mierda..... It may be on the film soundtrack... I am SURE there is much better Spanish Pop music about, if it's along the same style as Por Que Te Vas it can't get much better.... when I was ill in Tenerife, there were a load of strange dudes who did Kareoke songs on Toma Nota. It was funny. the song was called Bimbo and it SCARED ME. Tag wrote some stuff about cheese, may I add that the very mature cheddar you can get from our Spar is the best cheese in the world ever? And also that while on da cheese tip (wow...i'm going to say that more often...) that DAIRYLEA DUNKERS (especialyl with teh garlic chipsticks) are gods own food.... Stop being such wankers you lot about READING THE ARCHIVES!!! You're being more boring than everybody else who GOT THE HINT with the nine millionth message from someone whose been on the list EVER SINCE 3...6....9.. 'cha and thus knows their biscuits.....every bloody post, shut up....sorry....but it's a wee bit dull and monotonous...like mee... ah well, I am SURE no-one has posted to the list about this particular question of mine before so I am not going to waste 5 mins calling up my crappy browser and another 2 mins rebooting the pooter when it crashes and thentrying again, grrr d'oh! I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Candarel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From karlek0 at xxx.com Wed Oct 7 12:23:29 1998 From: karlek0 at xxx.com (Matt Hayes) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 04:23:29 PDT Subject: Sinister: You and your bloody oranges Message-ID: <19981007112329.25670.qmail@hotmail.com> >There are other kinds of Swedish cheese, you can buy them in >IKEA along with maribou chocolate (God's own chocolate, you know), do know if you can also buy kraftost (sorry for only having a 26 letter keyboard), messmor or fil mjolk in IKEA? i spent the summer in sweden (coming to a climax on my last night at stockholm's klubben) and the one thing that i really do miss since coming back (other than my girlfriend) is the food. kraftost is spreadable cheese with crayfish and when you're lucky you come across a whole crayfish. messmor is a funny kind of butter with a fantastically low fat content - I've heard that it was originally made with norwegian goats. fil mjolk is a kind of cross between milk and yogurt and is lovely. goodbye matthew and yes, that is quite strange for a first post. sorry ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Wed Oct 7 12:57:32 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:57:32 +0100 () Subject: Sinister: a bit of my soul In-Reply-To: <19981006144805.18741.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: dear listerines, (oh no, that's not quite right is it) i have been having an epiphanic (real word?) couple of days. my head is feeling kind of weird now. last night i was listening to the student radio network chart and got really quite depressed after 3 songs in a row with identical messy guitars and plodding drums. so of course i put on TARTYBOYS for consolation. later on though my faith in radio returned listening to simon mccabe's show on university radio york (which none of you will be able to hear unless you're in york). he played some really rather lovely stuff including miles davis and billie holiday, and i was just wondering whether to phone up and say 'you have a sexy accent and bloody great musical taste, can you please play chickfactor' when, literally seconds later, he said: 'and here is belle and sebastian with chickfactor'. how wonderful is that? i nearly cried. the night before was also funny. some friends and i were drinking copious amounts of wine when suddenly a darling boy named al produced a guitar and we all rocked into a spontaneous version of 'get me away...' of course it was rather drunken and poor, and not really good enough for a tribute tape, but in its own little way it felt like the greatest tribute to b&S there could be. 6 friends full of love and happiness singing their hearts out in a small, messy living room somewhere in york. sorry, just had to share that. Archel xxxx ps. Adrian - i sent you a really witty, great message but the server returned it. honest. > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Wed Oct 7 14:00:43 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 14:00:43 Subject: Sinister: Black session tapes Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981007140043.2ae7d744@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Hi all, As I was in the audience during the radio session last monday, I couldn't tape it. But dont worry, I will get the copy next week and I will send the tapes to the people that I have "selected" (I will indicate their names again soon) as fast as possible. Then, everyone will be able to ask these lucky people for a tape . Be patient please :) I hope that Bernard Lenoir will also broadcast the 2 songs you could not hear on the radio: I know where the summer goes (during the news at 10.00pm) Sleep the clock around (after 10.30) If he does, I will of course add these 2 songs on the tape. Of course I will get rid of the news in the middle of the session :) Stephane Buron sent the playlist so i dont have to do that stuff again. But Stephane forgot to say that the session was just great!! And yesterday, the show at La Cigale (Paris)was great too!! They seem to be so happy on stage. Stuart Murdoch was jumping, dancing, smiling. They also played a new song : Lord Anthony I love Belle&Sebastian even more. Philippe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From buthigie at xxx.fr Wed Oct 7 13:10:33 1998 From: buthigie at xxx.fr (Romain) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 14:10:33 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Ticket for the show Message-ID: <361B5A39.B7BB891F@esigetel.fr> Is anyone sell a ticket for tomorrow concert of Belle and Sebastian at La Cigale (Paris) ? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snorman at xxx.uk Wed Oct 7 13:11:36 1998 From: snorman at xxx.uk (Sam Norman) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:11:36 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: vive la revolucion! Message-ID: So is anyone else going on the demo David and Katrina are holding outside XFM on Saturday? It would be great to meet up whilst in leicester square. To quote David, "all the details can be found by clicking on the Xfm logo on the front page of the jeepster label (http://www.jeepster.co.uk/). "if a few people are really interested then we'll make a meet point to try and co-ordinate things that little more." Cheerio la album de la revolucion Londres! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Wed Oct 7 13:31:01 1998 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 05:31:01 PDT Subject: Sinister: unkindest cut Message-ID: <19981007123102.9790.qmail@hotmail.com> The eighth-day Jewish ceremony is called the bris millah, brit millah in non-Diasporic Hebrew.....it is supposedly a covenant with God but I wish I'd been old enough to choose whether I wanted to be aligned. Tho it was pretty funny, I went to my cousin's bris and when they were done and the reception had begun we looked over at the table and there was his little foreskin, just sort of lying there, and my brother and I mulled over whether to steal it and then present it back to him as a Bar Mitzvah present. And for those of you who think that having a circumcision at age 13 is too impossibly painful, from what I remember that is exactly what the Muslims do. I heard that some sects (of Islam) are also pretty big on female (!) circumcision so that they can never derive enjoyment from sex, and in fact makes it almost excruciatingly painful. Does anyone have a copy of Tigermilk? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NeilD at xxx.uk Wed Oct 7 13:29:30 1998 From: NeilD at xxx.uk (Neil Dewhurst) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:29:30 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Strange inner workings Message-ID: <704AE307AB53D2119EE300805F7DF755E2E5@NCMSERVER> Jake Reichart wrote ... This reminds me of one of my favorite quotes, from the late science fiction writer Theodore Sturgeon: "Eighty percent of all science fiction is crap. Then again, eighty percent of everything is crap." Which made me think of Kurt Vonnegut and the sci-fi writer he mentions in (I think) some of his books - but as I've only read Slaughterhouse 5 (if you haven't read it do so immediately) I don't know too much. Anyway, I checked the name of this guy and it turns out to be Kilgore Trout. This piece of information is not, I grant you, particularly interesting, but it struck me that the fish link was more than just coincidence. Forgive me for my ramblings, but I think I'm still slightly delirious with fever, and I've been talking to lawyers all morning, and will be all afternoon. If you've never sat in a room for any period of time with city lawyers, I can assure you that there are fewer duller things in life. Still, my cleverly planned meeting schedule allows me to sit around drinking coffee between meetings, attempting to spark my brain into life with a cryptic crossword. Excitingly, I've been invited to the Groucho club next Thursday, although again, there will be too many lawyers. ( I need to come up with a collective noun for lawyers, any suggestions?) Yours bored and boring Neil +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From magnient at xxx.fr Wed Oct 7 13:57:23 1998 From: magnient at xxx.fr (Jean-Christophe MAGNIENT) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 14:57:23 +0200 Subject: Sinister: You Made Me Forget My .. Birthday Message-ID: <361B6533.41C6@onera.fr> Chance, fortuity, hap, luck, inevitability, necessity, destiny, fate, foreordination, predestination, fortune, hazard,.. : an unpredictable, and uncontrollable 'MASTER' force. Or: << yesterday B&S were playing in Paris, I was there AND it was my birthday >>. What else can I say? I'm happy.. OK may be you don't care but i had to share this. I won't make a review of the concert but i must say i really liked the cover of 'poupee de cire, poupee de son', and Stuart was so funny during the song, all excited and dancing (!!) apart in a corner. I also loved the parts when they start making noises: e.g. the end of Spaceboy Dream. It's a nice contrast with the ballads. Last but not least, i was pretty impressed by Isobel. She does look like Julie Andrews (even Stuart mentioned it) and she was so cute in her flower dress with her embarrassed and shy manners. What a Day ! For the french guys who were at La Fourmi before the concert i wish i were there to chat but i couldn't make it, so maybe next time. Blue Skies, Zice ;)))) -- Jean-Christophe MAGNIENT PhD Student / Doctorant ONERA - MFE / DSNA / ETRI [ http://www.onera.fr ] BP 72 92322 Chatillon cedex France +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Oct 7 14:11:20 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:11:20 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Tony Adams Does Jobbies in Taxis Message-ID: <01bdf1f3$fa3583c0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> McRagtag wrote: >Peter, I'm sorry that I cruelly raised your hopes, I should have made >it clear, it was only a number one. It was Tony Adams that did the >other sort. I stand corrected. I'm not particularly surprised that Eartha Kitt does wee-wees in taxis, that kind of thing could happen to anyone. I mean, you're out on the pish with your mates, the last bus has just gone, you have to get a taxi, there's no choice. But you were having so much fun in the pub that you forgot to go to the lavvy. The only plausible solution is to do it in your trousers, thus leaving a wee wee-wee puddle in the back of the taxi. Otherwise you could do it in that little door handle guard thing made of clear palstic. Unless you're a girl, because they do wee-wees out of their bottoms. Apparently. > ....why are you all looking at me >funny? Because your flies are undone. I had another dream with you in it last night. It was a football match, with big rough Chelsea hooligans. I say, I do like John Gregory, don't you? 10 English players - mad impetuous fool! Still, you can't argue with that kind of lead. I think it's all over bar the shouting, basically. B&S content: I saw a wovewy wickle wobin wedbweast and it was wovewy and all singing and nice! More B&S content: I listened to that French radio session and thought it was smashing. I don't think Bernard Bressloire is a c*nt at all, Funkyseb. However, I have decided to let you off because if you hadn't pointed out the subtle difference between LW and MW I wouldn't have heard it at all, so thanks very much, my funky little friend. As it happens, I heard it in glorious FM in the end. So ner. Mr Murdoch sounded really nervous at first, which is nice, but soon got into the swing of avoiding any songs off the album they were supposed to be promoting, which is also nice. The highlight for me was "poopy de poo, poopy de pomme" , which was delivered at a hurtling breakneck gallopy pace with loony synth and monster munch drums. I do believe Ms Campbell shouted a bit near the end, which is nice. We'll make a Poly Styrene of her yet. It's a shame there wasn't time for the last song, if the infamous instrument changes had been a bit slicker it would have been all right. The crowd were well into it, was that natural or was there someone holding up instructions like "CHEER NOW!" to help create that Beatlemania vibe? All in all, a very pleasant bit of radio entertainment, which is nice. Miss Erin wrote: Peter Peter Pumpkin-eater, I hope this letter was interesting enough for you (fnar fnar). Someone has to be the pragmatist when Honey's not around. I'm afraid this was the only bit I read properly, I just skimmed the rest. No offense intended to anyone, there just isn't time to read everything. I'm a working man, you know. Or I will be when I stop spouting shite like this. I can't possibly keep up with all the messages. Sorry. I'm sure it was very interesting though. I'm sure they all are. Keith, you weren't in my dream last night, probably because you NEVER EVER write to us anymore. Tall Stu, you should have given your ticket to that girl. The fact that you didn't suggests that you don't really love her with all your heart. If she were to accept your kind offer, you would know that she was evil, and you could just snatch it out of her hands and go anyway. Result - you get to see the concert and find out whether she's a smasher or not at the same time. Sarah, I know not what you seek Mari Trini-wise, but shall send out a search party immediately. I wouldn't get over excited about Spanish music in general though. But I do know "bailamos el bimbo, que está causando sensación". I've got it. My favourite Spanish group is, damn, I've forgotten what they're called...I can sort you out with Reggae for Lovers too, and Kent Northern Soul compilations that everyone loves. Just say the word. Can I go now? Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Wed Oct 7 14:13:36 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:13:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Session Tapes Delayed. Message-ID: <199810071317.OAA29022@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Hi list, As you may have just read, Philippe DIDN'T record the show, but will get a copy soon, this means that those people I had promised to tape it for will just have to wait a little longer. Never mind, just think of those new tracks, oh I can't wait. Who'd have thought that we would get some new stuff so soon after the release Twattybus. (still no anagrams yet I see!) In the mean time, may I suggest again, that you visit the treehouse and listen to looper. Jake. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Wed Oct 7 14:16:33 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:16:33 EDT Subject: Sinister: My one regret is that I never got to Ongar. And now I never will. Message-ID: you lot wrote: <<...when you're lucky you come across a whole crayfish.Toggenburg Nanny Goat,kittens at a lady's breastShe's going to the jimmy Buffet making a bleak playback Tag is the cheesemeister.>> Fantastic! surrealism makes a baffling come back to the list. Yaaay! <> D'you want to hear my Jeepster HQ annecdote? Probably not. Oh well: It was back in the bad old days before the list, when I did social things in the open air. Actually, I didn't. I used to spend my days riding to the end of each underground line, have a cup of tea, and then come back again. It's not something to be proud of, but it cost very little, wasted a lot of time, and at the end of the day, you had a tiny sense of achievement. I have seen Upminster! Anyway, having exhausted that hobby, one day, after yet another crap audition for another crap commercial, it hit me- why don't I make a pilgrimage to Canalot? The glittering castle, where the beautiful people who signed the beautiful people live? So I made a plan. I'd lost my A-Z, but I had a vague I idea where Kensal Rd was, and I set out sure that I'd see the whole band, and they'd offer me some cake, and we'd all get along fine. But after three hours, I was still stuck in the rain near Willesden. The railway carriage was lit by one functioning light bulb, which a gang of 12 year olds were busy trying to murder. I stared out the window with wet eyes at the InterCitys flashing past underneath. Speeding along at 70 mph can make you feel like you're going somewhere. The train's so sure of its destination that you can forget your own aimlessness. But when you're sat in a siding, in the rain, there's nothing that can quite hide the truth. That you're not going anywhere. I eventually got to Kensal Rise. Late in the day, as the grey sky slowly turned to orange. But Kensal Rise isn't Kensal Road. Jeepster was still a mile away. I'd spent the whole day trying to get somewhere, and in the end, it wasn't even the place I wanted to go. That night I dreamed of Jeepster, dreamt I'd got there. It was an old cinema, full of people, all talking and having fun. But when they saw me, it all when quiet. And then they left. Mmm, a parable for you there. And a dream. I dreamt I saw the cover of the next album last night. It looked damn good. And I know the tracklisting. But it's too late to tell you now. Fluffy Starry wrote: <> Sorry. I'm being a bit of a old git aren't I? I didn't realise how arsey I sounded, telling people what to post. And you don't really have a diseased mind. Well, only in a nice way. You know who I hate, BTW? People from Sussex. Well, 80% of them. With their little white signposts, and their rural pubs...pah! They come over here (Kent) and think they own the bloody place....foreigners! seb (what a dull post. Still, the Richard Rowntree joke yesterday was pretty good, eh?) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MWaggner at xxx.com Wed Oct 7 14:39:27 1998 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:39:27 EDT Subject: Sinister: Honey Update Message-ID: Honey List Princess is still home sniffly and sick and lonely. Sadly, Splat and Shirl seem to be shirking their nursemaid duties and can be found lounging in the sunbeams and waiting to be fed, fat lazy ingrates... Honey has finished all his magazines and coloring books and jigsaw puzzles, is running out of bread and milk and orange juice -- and has begun talking to himself. Suggestions on how he might better spend his time while recuperating would be appreciated -- Tag seems to have a vast knowlege of blue videos and creative things to do with cheese. Do they deliver these things from the shops? No suggestions for anything too strenuous now ... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paul.field at xxx.com Wed Oct 7 15:31:46 1998 From: paul.field at xxx.com (Paul Field) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:31:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The boy with too much time on his hands Message-ID: <01BDF207.98EB6B20.paul.field@cmgplc.com> Jake wrote: Who'd have thought that we would get some new stuff so soon after the release Twattybus. (still no anagrams yet I see!) Well here's one, and also some good advice: Bath with beer, pot, ashtray (see the title - it really is true) Maybe the poolie Honey can think of some better ones. I had hours of fun(?) coming up with that one. Maybe I should go on coundown.... do you think Richard Whiteley likes B&S? Or has an Arab strap for that matter?? Do you think I'm a sad bastard?? Well, you're probably right. Byeee Paul. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trug88 at xxx.com Wed Oct 7 15:56:50 1998 From: trug88 at xxx.com (k h) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 07:56:50 PDT Subject: Sinister: chicago show Message-ID: <19981007145651.5293.qmail@hotmail.com> hello all... if any of you are going to be in the chicago area on the 26th of October and need 1 belle and sebastian ticket, i have one. i'm just giving it to someone, so you can line up at my door and fight for it :) just kidding, i don't believe in violence. email me at isagogic at netscape.net, not on the list, i always end up missing stuff. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Wed Oct 7 16:05:46 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:05:46 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: No cheese content In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, Krissy wrote: > > Hi, all! > Does anyone have a CDR version of Tigermilk that they would be willing to > *sell*? I've tried all the straightways, and now I'm going into the black > market. But what else can I do?? > E-mail me, if you can help--- > (hi, roberta) > > Krissy Oh dear, call out the cavalry. Jeepster have said a few times that they don't mind people doing tapes of Tigermilk for others, but absolutely not if there's money involved. So for any other new listees out there, please don't even think about asking the list for a CD of it in return for money, or you'll probably get a nasty email back from them at least. Anyway, enough of that. I was going to ask last time I wrote, but I forgot - can anyone recommend any good Northern Soul collections for a party I'm having next weekend? I'm sure there must be a few afficionados here... (Oh, and while I'm at it, I'm still looking for a tape of the Divine Comedy gig that was on the radio on Monday if anyone wasn't trying to listen to the B&S session instead). And I've discovered another problem with being a tall git - I had to get some passport photos done, and the top of my head didn't appear in the photos I got back. Probably a good thing actually, I'm having a serious bad hair day today. Just what weird device is it that they build into passport photo machines to ensure that you always look really stupid in the pictures? Big Stu I don't think she's interested, but I'll keep trying... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Wed Oct 7 17:19:50 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 17:19:50 Subject: Sinister: The winners of the tapes ! Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981007171950.35dfd62c@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Hi again, The representives who will reveice the tape of the radio session broadcasted 2 days ago are : For UK : duke of harringay and kenny For Ireland : Barrett Ronan For USA : "Jim Schmidt" For Canada : Sandra Duric For Spain : Jose Maria Sagúillo (hijo) For Germany : Stephan Hammer I wasn't trying to be rude by saying "Frenchies" - I hope it >doesn't look like an insult Is there any country where "frenchies" is an insult ? Philippe, who loves horses +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Wed Oct 7 17:30:55 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 17:30:55 Subject: Sinister: Paperboat lyrics (I was bored !!) Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981007173055.0a0f1fd6@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Ben did a good job : >Sat here and thought I'd write the lyrics for Paperboat down. > >So here goes: > >I think it's going to be alright, >I think it's going to be just fine, >I think it's going to be much better than before, Just to add that Stuart Davis is singing Paper boat. On this song, Stuart Murdoch plays the trumpet with Mick. Yesterday, at La Cigale, Stuart M sang a new one called Lord Anthony, and I love it! Does anyone know which songs will be on the next EPs ? Philippe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Wed Oct 7 16:51:43 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:51:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Paperboat lyrics (I was bored !!) Message-ID: <01BDF212.C3BBCD80.keith@qss.co.uk> it was going to be Paper Boar, I know where the Summer goes and the Gate, not in any particular order. Dunno whether it's changed since then, but that's the word on the street at the moment. Cheers, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grahmsgirl at xxx.com Wed Oct 7 18:16:40 1998 From: grahmsgirl at xxx.com (Cassandra Grasso) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 10:16:40 PDT Subject: Sinister: monday people of new york unite Message-ID: <19981007171640.23574.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello List, Since I love planning things would it be alright if I planned a get together in New York for the Sunday night show? This is what I was thinking...perhaps we could do the whole tourist thing in NY for those who don't get to come here much and then have dinner at a nice restaurant like Ollie's (Chinese food in the middle of Times Square) or this amazing Italian restaurant downtown that I can't think of the name at the moment. Or we could have a nice autumn picnic in central park to keep in the tradition of picnics. If anyone else is up for this idea please email me privately and feel free to give suggestions! The more people the better! Ta! Cass ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daeril at xxx.es Wed Oct 7 18:30:03 1998 From: daeril at xxx.es (Alberto) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 19:30:03 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Por qué te vas??? References: <361B5AE4.65E5C71B@madnetro.com> Message-ID: <361BA51B.DCB562D2@redestb.es> Si, la verdad es que ya hace tiempo que no se lee nada en castellano en esta lista. Yo escribo esto para cumplir el cupo, y ya de paso voy a cumplir el cupo de catalan, porque en eso parece que si que soy el unico de la lista: "hola a tothom". Es curioso lo de la canción esta, supongo que muchas de las canciones que aqui nos parecen geniales en sus paises de origen son consideradas unos petardazos, y a veces eso me hace pensar que seguramente los Hombres G eran los genios que a mi me parecian de pequeñito. Hasta otra! marga wrote: > > Hola! > What a surprise! Something in Spanish. I'm from Madrid and perhaps the > only Spanish girl in this list?! > The song "Por qué te vas?" is by Jeannette, a very popular singer in > Spain, but she isn´t Spanish. It was written by Jose Luis Perales (the > only great song he has written, i think) . > I didn´t know that this song was famous in other countries. The french > duo Air said it was one of their favourites of all times.! > > Marga bitter Amarga > ---- > Hi my little Cleopatra fans! > > how are you! I'm great 'cos I've just listened to a fab song on a FAB > film which makes me happy....the film is called CRIA CUERVOS (Raise > ravens) and it's fab, but heres the main reason for the post.... the > film has this song in it which Ana plays on her Dansette (or whatever) > and they dance around the living room to it, until their grandmother > calls them, and Ana goes to attend to her. And this song, I don't know > who it's by, but it's fab. > > I think it may be called Por Que Te Vas (?), and my Spanish tutor has an > > idea it's by Marie Trine (?) - but we're not sure. It's an old choon so > she says, but I think it's pretty bangin' cha? Does anyone know what > this song is, or where I could get hold of it? Hay alguien en Espana que > > le sabe? Um, excuse my bad Spanish if that was wrong :) Porque me gusta > mucho encontrarlo porque soy un poco mierda..... It may be on the film > soundtrack... > > I am SURE there is much better Spanish Pop music about, if it's along > the same style as Por Que Te Vas it can't get much better.... when I was > > ill in Tenerife, there were a load of strange dudes who did Kareoke > songs on Toma Nota. It was funny. the song was called Bimbo and it > SCARED ME. > > Tag wrote some stuff about cheese, may I add that the very mature > cheddar you can get from our Spar is the best cheese in the world ever? > And also that while on da cheese tip (wow...i'm going to say that more > often...) that DAIRYLEA DUNKERS (especialyl with teh garlic chipsticks) > are gods own food.... > > Stop being such wankers you lot about READING THE ARCHIVES!!! You're > being more boring than everybody else who GOT THE HINT with the nine > millionth message from someone whose been on the list EVER SINCE > 3...6....9.. 'cha and thus knows their biscuits.....every bloody post, > shut up....sorry....but it's a wee bit dull and monotonous...like mee... > > ah well, I am SURE no-one has posted to the list about this particular > question of mine before so I am not going to waste 5 mins calling up my > crappy browser and another 2 mins rebooting the pooter when it crashes > and thentrying again, grrr d'oh! > > I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! > Fluffy Candarel > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cp83985 at xxx.edu Wed Oct 7 18:40:20 1998 From: cp83985 at xxx.edu (Carl Polgar Jr) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:40:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: it's hot down here . . . Message-ID: . . . and humid, and muggy, and just plain miserable. but the girls look lovely, even if they make squishing sounds as they walk because their sandals are soaked from the sweat between their toes. it's a lovely sound, actually. around this time of year, we floridians start hearing rumors about this thing called "autumn", but every year, nothing comes out of it. it's october, and it's over 90 degrees. this time last year, i was in san fransisco. it was absolutely lovely. now i am in an air conditioned room, and it's still hot, and i'm still sweating. i am daydreaming of being in france, of listening to belle and sebastian playing serge gainsbourg songs on the radio, of the emotions that my limited vocabulary won't allow me to describe when i'm listening to their music. someone asked for the quiet people to come out. well, i'm one of the quiet people. hope you don't regret asking us to come out. bye carl p.s. it's lovely to see other people with interests in the magnetic fields and the future bible heroes. i've met stephin merritt and the rest of the group several times, and they are some of the nicest people in the world. not as nice as most of you, though. that's all. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jon_Wetzel at xxx.com Wed Oct 7 18:47:02 1998 From: Jon_Wetzel at xxx.com (Wetzel, Jon ) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:47:02 -0400 Subject: Sinister: it's hot down here . . . Message-ID: I met stephen merritt and he seemed to me to very misanthropic.....i dunno, maybe i met him on a bad night -----Original Message----- From: Carl Polgar Jr [mailto:cp83985 at xxx.edu] Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 12:40 PM To: sinister at majordomo.net Subject: Sinister: it's hot down here . . . . . . and humid, and muggy, and just plain miserable. but the girls look lovely, even if they make squishing sounds as they walk because their sandals are soaked from the sweat between their toes. it's a lovely sound, actually. around this time of year, we floridians start hearing rumors about this thing called "autumn", but every year, nothing comes out of it. it's october, and it's over 90 degrees. this time last year, i was in san fransisco. it was absolutely lovely. now i am in an air conditioned room, and it's still hot, and i'm still sweating. i am daydreaming of being in france, of listening to belle and sebastian playing serge gainsbourg songs on the radio, of the emotions that my limited vocabulary won't allow me to describe when i'm listening to their music. someone asked for the quiet people to come out. well, i'm one of the quiet people. hope you don't regret asking us to come out. bye carl p.s. it's lovely to see other people with interests in the magnetic fields and the future bible heroes. i've met stephin merritt and the rest of the group several times, and they are some of the nicest people in the world. not as nice as most of you, though. that's all. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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Name: not available URL: From rkb200 at xxx.edu Wed Oct 7 20:20:24 1998 From: rkb200 at xxx.edu (Rachel Kramer Bussel) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:20:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Nov. 1 ticket for sale Message-ID: If anyone needs a ticket for the Nov. 1 Supper Club show, please email me privately - the cost is $25.50. rachel rkb200 at is5.nyu.edu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From terri_wise at xxx.com Wed Oct 7 21:42:36 1998 From: terri_wise at xxx.com (Wise, Terri) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:42:36 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Kilgore Trout Message-ID: <199810072042.AA06591@interlock.mgh.com> Neil mentioned the writer Kilgore Trout in Vonnegut's novels... I just wanted to make it clear that this is a fictional character... And where's this fish link? If it were, "80% of everything is CARP," that would follow... Terri Wise Editorial Assistant McGraw-Hill College (617) 867-9805 Fax (617) 375-2285 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Wed Oct 7 21:18:57 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:18:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Don't diss Sussex Message-ID: <199810072044.VAA19137@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> I was raeding the mail from funky seb and he said; Fluffy Starry wrote: <> Sorry. I'm being a bit of a old git aren't I? I didn't realise how arsey I sounded, telling people what to post. And you don't really have a diseased mind. Well, only in a nice way. You know who I hate, BTW? People from Sussex. Well, 80% of them. With their little white signposts, and their rural pubs...pah! They come over here (Kent) and think they own the bloody place....foreigners! Well that is it. I've had enough. I admit that I was one of the guilty ones who said look in the archives, but I stopped that after a couple of days when even I had got sick of it, so Sarahs little outburst was a little delayed, but I see her point. Sorry. But Funkyseb, you can't hate me just because I live in a county neighbouring yours. It is not my fault the way that some Sussexers ( or what ever the collective noun is for us who live in Sussex) travel to Kent for a Sunday drive or whatever, and besides I hardly think I have to go to Kent ( the whole 10 miles away that is from my house) for a rural pub. Every single sodding village around where I live has at least 2 pubs, sometimes there are pubs without villages, just shoved in the middle of nowhere, just because there used to be an old road there to go to London. Anyway, I hope I'm one of the 80% Love thy fellow counties (except, Essex coz they all drive white Cortinas) Jake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kellym at xxx.com Wed Oct 7 22:40:38 1998 From: kellym at xxx.com (Kelly McGuire) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 13:40:38 -0800 Subject: Sinister: I'm not as sad as Dostoevsky... Message-ID: <199810072044.NAA01890@macbeth.ienet.com> Hey kids, I'm not sure if anyone will care or not, but NBC's version of Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment will air this Sunday, October 11th, at 9PM PST/EST. Its one of my, if not THE, favorite novels I've ever read, and it looks like the made for TV adaptation might actually be pretty good. Patrick Dempsey plays Raskolnikov, and it also stars Ben Kingsley (Zamitov maybe?) and Julie Delpy (Sonya, I think). Anyway, this is entirely not related to B+S (unless you count the line from Modern Rock Sock) but I thought some of you scholarly kids out there might have liked the book and cared to see the movie. Alright, now I'm off to get a "Crunchy Peanut Butter" Cliff Bar. I don't know if they have these in the UK, but I could seriously live off of them. Ok, bye. -Kelly McGuire kellym at raygun.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ajax at xxx.com Wed Oct 7 22:03:22 1998 From: ajax at xxx.com (Jake Reichert) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:03:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Kilgore Trout In-Reply-To: <199810072042.AA06591@interlock.mgh.com> from "Wise, Terri" at Oct 7, 98 04:42:36 pm Message-ID: <199810072103.OAA26584@atari.saturn5.com> > > > Neil mentioned the writer Kilgore Trout in Vonnegut's novels... I just > wanted to make it clear that this is a fictional character... And where's > this fish link? If it were, "80% of everything is CARP," that would > follow... I think it was actually the Theodore STURGEON part. Only because I'm not entirely convinced that 80% of everything is carp. In response to the Florida Weather Person: It's been just ducky weather here in San Francisco all week. Nice and sunny, a bit blustery, kinda what you'd like in Fall weather. It makes me want to go to country fairs. It makes up for the seven straight months of rain earlier this year. I'd send you a big box of it, but that may be a bit difficult, given the current technological limitations in packaging up meteorological phenomena. -mrjake The only good meeting is a Free Pizza meeting. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tridophelom at xxx.com Wed Oct 7 22:10:47 1998 From: tridophelom at xxx.com (will grey) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 14:10:47 PDT Subject: Sinister: I'm not as sad as Dostoevsky... Message-ID: <19981007211047.18739.qmail@hotmail.com> >looks like the made for TV adaptation might actually be pretty good. >Patrick >Dempsey plays Raskolnikov, and it also stars Ben Kingsley (Zamitov maybe?) >and Julie Delpy (Sonya, I think). Anyway, this is entirely not related to >B+S (unless you count the line from Modern Rock Sock) but I thought some of >you scholarly kids out there might have liked the book and cared to see the >movie. except that the tv ads for some absurd reason keep referring to "A love so strong he would kill for it"... what the hell does that mean? what book did they read? i still kinda want to see the one with peter lorre... but adapting dusty seems like a pretty absurd idea to me... and ummm... i like listening to belle and sebastian while reading dostoevsky... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Wed Oct 7 21:06:39 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (JJ) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 21:06:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: tout alert! References: Message-ID: <361BC9CF.3EE@seahouses.u-net.com> Rachel Kramer Bussel wrote: > > If anyone needs a ticket for the Nov. 1 Supper Club show, please email me > privately - the cost is $25.50. Don't do it kids! Ours only cost 15 dollars..someone is trying to make a profit here! JJ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rkb200 at xxx.edu Wed Oct 7 22:22:09 1998 From: rkb200 at xxx.edu (Rachel Kramer Bussel) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:22:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: tout alert! In-Reply-To: <361BC9CF.3EE@seahouses.u-net.com> Message-ID: FYI...that "someone" trying to make a profit is called...TICKETMASTER. So fine, I'm not gonna take a $10 loss on my ticket cause I can't go just because I went through Ticketmaster and not Other Music. If I was gonna set some random price too, I wouldn't pick $25.50. Maybe someone's ticket cost $5 and they'd be willing to part with it for $5, that's very nice but I can't afford to take a loss, SORRY. Also, please don't any more people email me about the ticket...got lotsa emails already. I'd think there are people on various other lists who are looking to trade or sell tickets. defensively, rachel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From esincoff at xxx.com Wed Oct 7 22:36:19 1998 From: esincoff at xxx.com (Ethan Sincoff) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 17:36:19 -0400 Subject: Sinister: tout alert! References: Message-ID: <361BDED3.3229E4FE@icon.com> YEAH EVERYONE !! LEAVE RACHEL KRAMER BUSSEL ALONE!! :) HOW DARE YOU QUESTION HER INTEGRITY!! AND "JJ" DUDE, GET A LIFE M'MAN!!!!! RACHEL IS COOL. SHE HAS A MARY LOU LORD PAGE,.... CHECK IT OUT KIDS!! Rachel Kramer Bussel wrote: > FYI...that "someone" trying to make a profit is called...TICKETMASTER. So > fine, I'm not gonna take a $10 loss on my ticket cause I can't go just > because I went through Ticketmaster and not Other Music. If I was gonna > set some random price too, I wouldn't pick $25.50. Maybe someone's ticket > cost $5 and they'd be willing to part with it for $5, that's very nice but > I can't afford to take a loss, SORRY. Also, please don't any more people > email me about the ticket...got lotsa emails already. I'd think there are > people on various other lists who are looking to trade or sell tickets. > > defensively, > > rachel > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Cin875 at xxx.com Wed Oct 7 22:32:25 1998 From: Cin875 at xxx.com (Cin875 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:32:25 EDT Subject: Sinister: tout alert! Message-ID: <8cf23ac.361bdde9@aol.com> In a message dated 10/7/98 5:18:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, johnj at seahouses.u-net.com writes: > Rachel Kramer Bussel wrote: > > > > If anyone needs a ticket for the Nov. 1 Supper Club show, please email me > > privately - the cost is $25.50. > > Don't do it kids! > Ours only cost 15 dollars..someone is trying to make a profit here! > > JJ JJ, this is what the ticket cost if you brought them through Ticketmaster. So I don't believe anyone is trying to make a profit. Cindy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rmckay at xxx.edu Wed Oct 7 22:50:32 1998 From: rmckay at xxx.edu (baggy trousers) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:50:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: the length of your....show Message-ID: heya i am all set for athens now, i have my tickets, i have made my hotel reservations for the night, i have given my car its first wash in about 8 months..i just need to figure out how to get there now...usually i figure that north is always in front of me....no north/south/east/west..just tell me left or right! can anyone tell me how long a show we can expect? an hour? and hour and a half? thanks roberta **oh you look so tired + "Rock'n'roll is the most brutal, mouth slack and wide + ugly, vicious form of expression - ill-housed and ill-advised + sly, lewd, in fact plain dirty..a your face is as mean as + rancid-smelling aphrodisiac..the your life has been + martial music of every delinquent crash into my arms + on the face of the earth..." i want you****** + -'jack the ripper' (morrissey) + -Frank Sinatra 1957 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TWidmer at xxx.com Wed Oct 7 23:28:35 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:28:35 -0700 Subject: Sinister: schminister Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF032B5C82@amerwksnt01.xil.com> Sassy Bobby Chariot wrote (a long time ago yeah yeah yeah...): <> This guy I know claims to have met Nick Drake's daughter. Only he didn't know it was her at the time. This girl he was talking to at a club was all, "oh Elliot Smith is so great, you'd just love him! go buy some of his stuff" and when she walked away her boyfriend (?) said, "you know she's Nick Drake's daughter?" but said it's very hush-hush and she didn't like to talk about it esp. considering "the tragic way her parents died". We can't find anything in any books about Nick having a daughter, but my friend recently met this rocknroll photographer lady who said yeah, she has pics of Nick and his wee'un from a long time ago. Well is this girl for real? Does anybody know if he really did have a daughter? Whoever she is, she turned my friend into an obsessive Elliot Smith fan. you look so foxy tonight. Tata, Tara... on post-birthday come down P.S. So are any of the SF-ites going to PopObscene?? If you go to Mod Lang in Berkeley they have a Trannybum display in the window, all these promo things within grabbing distance... we came thisclose to stealing a poster of the pixie glitterfaced girl... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Thu Oct 8 00:09:54 1998 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 19:09:54 EDT Subject: Sinister: Thingies Message-ID: Neil Dewhurst wrote: "I need to come up with a collective noun for lawyers, any suggestions?" - A leechery of lawyers? A three-piece suit(e) of lawyers? A 'one-of-the-writs' of lawyers? I like guys in city suits, btw. Mmm. Seeya in the small ads of QX. Archel - you RAWK! No, really. You may possibly POP also. Ummmm... WHY bother with a demo against Xfm? Like they'd Iist-en. I trust this is a joke. Funkybloke - I had a telephonic communication with a fellow lurkee tonight, and we're both in love with your postings. The difference is that she fancies you, and I don't. Hee hee. I bought some Pastels Cds today, but they're not as good as I remembered. Sob. Stephen. "Nobody likes me, everybody hates me, I'm going down the garden to eat Marilyn Manson" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From christian.hylse at xxx.com Wed Oct 7 18:52:03 1998 From: christian.hylse at xxx.com (christian hylse) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 19:52:03 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Please help me Message-ID: <001701bdf24a$6f96d6e0$65f6c6c3@FOO.telia.com> Hello; it have not cried to a song since stoneroses "Waterfall" but i happened today...and it was to "The dirty dream number two"... I would be the happiest boy in the world if someone (from Sweden or Scandinavia or whatever) could tape all non-album-tracks to me and sent it...it return (of course) i send you a fabolous tape... Someone must help me... I would trade my girlfriend for such a tape... even my St Bernard..... almost.... Christian Hylse christian.hylse at ronneby.mail.telia.com slattagardsvagen 2 372 51 Kallinge Sweden... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Thu Oct 8 00:44:07 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 23:44:07 GMT Subject: Sinister: Disco baby, sexy baby, hot! Message-ID: <361bfbe8.4167359@post.demon.co.uk> Hello happy revellers, For once NME made me laugh today. The little bit in thrills entitled "Carnage Fuckers" about riots at B&S shows. Also the Technics advert which said "Something colossal this way comes. The rock Godzilla of all beats. Spewing out the phantom loops of the 14th Century Sunday Social. A burning beast of mediaeval madness. Two minds melted into one. Welcome to the Chemical Brothers wall of sound. It lives and breathes but who will tame it?" It's powerful stuff and I was so impressed that I've bought a dozen. Can anyone shed any light on the strange rumour that the old Captain Bird's Eye was sacked and replaced with the new "hunky" version, because it came to light that the old Cap'n was, in fact, a woman. Seeing as how my own father was cast as the good Captain in an office looky-likey competition, I have a vested interest in knowing the truth. Genevieve wrote: >i'm sorry,but if you found mister marylin in your cupboard wouldn't >you pick up his slimy worm body with 2 sticks and throw him out in >the garbage!?!? For anyone that missed it, that was really funny. The Fluffster wrote: >how are you! I'm great 'cos I've just listened to a fab song on a FAB >film which makes me happy....the film is called CRIA CUERVOS (Raise >ravens) and it's fab, but heres the main reason for the post.... the >film has this song in it which Ana plays on her Dansette (or >whatever) >and they dance around the living room to it, until their grandmother >calls them, and Ana goes to attend to her. And this song, I don't know >who it's by, but it's fab. I don't who it's by either, but it reminds me of the film "L'effrontee", starring the magnificent Charlotte Gainsbourg. She keeps playing a song on her dansette, and it's complete saccharin but I love it. It reminds me of trying to snog this girl called Florence on the French exchange when I was 14, and blowing it cos I trod on her feet while we were smooching. Anyway, Charlotte is pissed off in the film cos she sees all her classmates going to a club called the "Roule-Roule", which has now taken over from "The Sinister Soul Weekender" as my preferred name for our planned night. Either that or "Carnage Fuckers", which I suspect will be Keith's preferred choice. Where the hell is Keith, anyway? Comrade Elisa wrote: >Find a pub that will let you play records all night, tape up the >posters and start your own fun. Even better, take your treasures home >and have a private disco in the comfort of your living room... You know, Elisa, you have many qualities I look for in a woman. then John, John, the Dandy Don wrote: >To the point though. Mr Robert "MC Taggart" McTaggart will be >venturing forth from his bedroom in a couple of Saturdays time. Armed >with his carrier bag of obscure European pop greats that nobody likes >and Northern Soul comps on Kent that everybody loves. He will be >strutting his stuff and spinning some mean tunes at Manchester's >Smile. Anybody in the Manchester area that fancies going along and >offering a bit of moral support would probably be appreciated. I'd prefer immoral support, but yes, it's true. And why stop at the Manchester Area - why don't you all come? October 17th, Star and Garter, Fairfield Street, Manchester. Two pounds. Anyone who went to our little Aftershow party at Christmas will know what to expect, although there should be more people serving at the bar this time. You may even get to see me and the Dandy himself doing our patented "camp northern soul dancing". >You'll be able to identify Robert by his big smile and abnormally >petite feet. I've never dared look at his feet myself but I have >noticed some shoes lying around his house that I assumed belonged to >a small child. John's been itching to say that for months. He's sitting there in Wythenshawe feeling thoroughly pleased with himself. And with Julian as his scriptwriter, who can blame him? Finally, Cynthia Someone, I want you to know that you moved me. I mean it. Love tag xxx PS This might come through twice, problemas technicas.... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From BlindLisa at xxx.com Thu Oct 8 00:53:02 1998 From: BlindLisa at xxx.com (BlindLisa at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 19:53:02 EDT Subject: Sinister: nov.1st and 2nd tickets for sale Message-ID: <95c814f0.361bfede@aol.com> hi everyone! if 4 of you are interested in going to see belle and sebastian in new york city on both of these dates, contact me. i have 4 tickets for each night. sad, sad--i can't go now. not a dry eye in the house, right? :( luv, lulu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ajax at xxx.com Thu Oct 8 01:34:24 1998 From: ajax at xxx.com (Jake Reichert) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: caffeinated whackiness Message-ID: <199810080034.RAA03912@atari.saturn5.com> Just thinking a bit about that 4AD cd that came with UNCUT. Would any kind UK humans be willing to pick me up a copy in exchange for some hard-to-get US release of something or other? I'm in the heart of used-cd land, so I'd be more than willing to make a trade. I was playing around on my keyboard the other day, trying to figure out how to make it sound like a Fender Rhodes (inspired by "Sleep the Clock Around", I was), and although I wasn't succesful, managed to create a sound that was eerily similar to that wierd, muted baby-piano sound that shows up in just about every Pram song. Do any knowledgeable people out there happen to know what instrument that really came from? (Tangential note: The best description I ever heard of Pram is that it sounds like Mary Poppins on acid. I know Pram isn't terribly B&s related. Just thought I'd point that out). As this is now the official Belle & Sebastian & Cheese list, I'll throw in some thislisty content. My vote is for a really nice, old six-year-or-so aged Italian Parmesan, the kind with little crunchy bits embedded in it that just tastes oh so good with a nice glass of wine or four. Most of you are sleeping by now, and I haven't even left work. Oh, the inhumanity of GMT. -mrjake What the hell was Faust doing in '73? They would have been much better received if they'd set their coordinates for '95 instead. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From krissy9 at xxx.us Thu Oct 8 01:48:51 1998 From: krissy9 at xxx.us (Krissy) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:48:51 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V2 #396 In-Reply-To: <199810072151.WAA27759@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > > Does anyone have a CDR version of Tigermilk that they would be willing to > > *sell*? I've tried all the straightways, and now I'm going into the black > > Oh dear, call out the cavalry. Jeepster have said a few times that they > don't mind people doing tapes of Tigermilk for others, but absolutely not > if there's money involved. So for any other new listees out there, please > don't even think about asking the list for a CD of it in return for money, > or you'll probably get a nasty email back from them at least. > I should have rephrased it. I meant that I would pay for postage and the CD itself, as I know it's a bit costy... and I said that because I haven't anything to trade. I would never try to anger such fine people! I'll do better next time, promise! Krissy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbgustat at xxx.net Thu Oct 8 02:19:08 1998 From: mbgustat at xxx.net (Mike Gustat) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:19:08 -0400 Subject: Sinister: unkindest cut Message-ID: <01bdf259$a62e3860$29e084a9@oemcomputer> Female Circumcision...right into a request for Tigermilk...nice segue. -----Original Message----- From: Corpora Arenacea To: sinister at majordomo.net Date: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 8:33 AM Subject: Sinister: unkindest cut > > The eighth-day Jewish ceremony is called the bris millah, brit millah >in non-Diasporic Hebrew.....it is supposedly a covenant with God but I >wish I'd been old enough to choose whether I wanted to be aligned. Tho >it was pretty funny, I went to my cousin's bris and when they were done >and the reception had begun we looked over at the table and there was >his little foreskin, just sort of lying there, and my brother and I >mulled over whether to steal it and then present it back to him as a Bar >Mitzvah present. > And for those of you who think that having a circumcision at age 13 is >too impossibly painful, from what I remember that is exactly what the >Muslims do. I heard that some sects (of Islam) are also pretty big on >female (!) circumcision so that they can never derive enjoyment from >sex, and in fact makes it almost excruciatingly painful. Does anyone >have a copy of Tigermilk? > > >______________________________________________________ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From moffeaton at xxx.com Thu Oct 8 02:40:35 1998 From: moffeaton at xxx.com (;) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:40:35 -0400 Subject: Sinister: mutually beneficial trade Message-ID: <000701bdf25c$a80d5140$1195accf@default> hello all, inbetween getting woozy and tingly thinking about attending the philly and dc shows, i am busy dumping all my precious audio bits onto cd-r... last month saw the wedding present boots and singles compiled, and this past weekend saw the wrapping up of all my magnetic fields shows (four cd's of shows, two of miscellany), and now I am in the thick of getting my belle and sebastian recordings in order. these things are never easy, and i try to plug any holes in the collection.... and possibly get better sounding versions too. anyone want to trade for a few items? it's easier to list what i have, as i don't quite know all the unreleased material. i can clean up bad sounding tapes, and will put whatever you give me onto cd for myself, you, and my friend melissa (thank you for the aislers set, melissa!!), so please don't think i'm a moneymaker, this is pure personal satisfaction from someone who cried upon the first time listening to "if you're feeling sinister", putting them in a special place in my heart where the smiths' "paint a vulgar picture" resides.... sigh. anyway, i have the two lps, the three singles, the jeepster vinyl of sinister (said to be mixed differently, but sounds pretty much the same as the enclave cd....) put onto cd-r. the tigermilk lp, direct transfer from the actual vinyl to cd-r. the following radio session songs on cd-r: just a modern rock song, seeing other people (slow duet one), stars of track & field, judy and the dream of horses, like dylan in the movies, the state i am in, (and isobel's "beautiful everything" from the treehouse thingie). the stuff below i'd love to replace wqith better copies: on tape (crummy copy, hiss, muddy): i could be dreaming, we rule the school... followed by horrible quality dubbed: a ray of sunshine, middle distance runner, pocketbook angel (oh my god this song is amazing), london has let me down. anyone with the stuff mentioned on tape and more, please feel free to email me for trading. the transfer takes me about a week, inbetween school and the 9-5 job, and i am totally open to trading all sorts of stuff. i have complete discographys of: the cure, kate bush, magnetic fields (and side projects), wedding present, pixies, smiths, mozzer, cranes, cocteau twins, etc... you get the idea. thank you, jason. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rehakk at xxx.edu Thu Oct 8 03:45:16 1998 From: rehakk at xxx.edu (Kimberly Rehak) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 22:45:16 -0400 Subject: Sinister: a little ditty Message-ID: <01c401bdf265$aeb5a340$9e84c38d@rehakk.alleg.edu> just wanted to recount a silly story... upon entering a new phase of my life, or in effect, starting college, i befriended a girl named kendra. so we were talking and i mention b&s to her and then i lent her my copy of IYFS for a week. she returned the cd with a note thanking me and which ended by saying "i especially liked the song about the midget" and i thought to myself: ???? and she said it was the third song, etc... so now we have a little joke about the midget. ok, i know it's not that funny, but it's CUTE right? oh well, i should go and throw away my decomposing orange peels kiss! KIMberly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Delaware9 at xxx.com Thu Oct 8 05:56:46 1998 From: Delaware9 at xxx.com (Delaware9 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:56:46 EDT Subject: Sinister: Is it wicked to waste time doing anagrams? Message-ID: <9dc0f3ac.361c460e@aol.com> Kenny wrote: >Never mind, just think of those new tracks, oh I can't wait. Who'd have thought >that we would get some new stuff so soon after the release Twattybus. (still no >anagrams yet I see!) OK, so here is a little poem I wrote from anagrams of The Boy With The Arab Strap... Why trip Abe at other baths? He thaws it, the baby parrot, by a brother that ate whips, where a batty, apt hip throbs. What? Be a hotty-bra hipster? Be a tarty rat? How, Beth? Pish! I would like to see other people's anagrams! You should try them, they're very useful if you've a few hours to kill...and of course there may even be those talented (or bored?) few who can write things that make sense! I know, what a concept... Have fun, Ralph Macchio +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Thu Oct 8 06:28:05 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 22:28:05 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Angry Rant Message-ID: <004501bdf27c$6e802400$f99bcdcf@brier> I know this doesn't help, but I need to say it. I had 60 posts today that I scrolled through as fast as the button would take me, then just as quickly deleted. If anyone else finds themselves faced with boring junk they can't delete fast enough, don't just delete it. Send a mail (private!) to the sender (only!) saying "Deleted cuz of boredom" and THEN delete it. They'll get the message, whether it was a post about a meet-up happening nowhere NEAR where you are or will ever be, or an answer to a random post about a band you've never heard of and never will, or whatever. Is Honey back yet to second my emotion? PLEASE reply privately on issues that won't interest all of us. PLEASE go to the web site for meet-up concerns. I don't want to lose this list from my life due to a clogging of my computer arteries. I love this and want to keep loving it. Selfish? You betcha. Love, Bee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From arab_strap at xxx.com Thu Oct 8 06:47:03 1998 From: arab_strap at xxx.com (Greg Pallis) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 22:47:03 PDT Subject: Sinister: sinister: xfm: say you'll be there Message-ID: <19981008054704.20515.qmail@hotmail.com> When does the demonstration end? I want to go, and to meet some sinesterites and the luverlleee D+K too, and to protest, 'cos everybody counts. But I have not only sataday school until 1, but detention afterwards. If it ends aftre 5, I can make it, but i doubt it muchly. OH well. Reply to the list or me or whatever. All fear the grim Draper! Yah! Greg ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From james.viner at xxx.edu Thu Oct 8 07:39:49 1998 From: james.viner at xxx.edu (M. JEF Viner) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 02:39:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: unsubscribe sinister "It does not follow that because a mountain appears to take on a different shape from different angles of vision, it has objectively no shape at all or an infinity of shapes." (EH Carr, 1961.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dunphyk at xxx.com Thu Oct 8 09:14:56 1998 From: dunphyk at xxx.com (Dunphy, Kevin) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:14:56 +0100 Subject: Sinister: new album Message-ID: theres no stars of track and field or seeing other people. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MctaggartR at xxx.com Wed Oct 7 13:38:11 1998 From: MctaggartR at xxx.com (Mctaggart, Robert) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:38:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Disco baby, sexy baby, hot! Message-ID: Hello happy revellers, For once NME made me laugh today. The little bit in thrills entitled "Carnage Fuckers" about riots at B&S shows. Also the Technics advert which said "Something colossal this way comes. The rock Godzilla of all beats. Spewing out the phantom loops of the 14th Century Sunday Social. A burning beast of mediaeval madness. Two minds melted into one. Welcome to the Chemical Brothers wall of sound. It lives and breathes but who will tame it?" It's powerful stuff and I was so impressed that I've bought a dozen. Can anyone shed any light on the strange rumour that the old Captain Bird's Eye was sacked and replaced with the new "hunky" version, because it came to light that the old Cap'n was, in fact, a woman. Seeing as how my own father was cast as the good Captain in an office looky-likey competition, I have a vested interest in knowing the truth. Genevieve wrote: >i'm sorry,but if you found mister marylin in your cupboard wouldn't >you pick up his slimy worm body with 2 sticks and throw him out in >the garbage!?!? For anyone that missed it, that was really funny. The Fluffster wrote: >how are you! I'm great 'cos I've just listened to a fab song on a FAB >film which makes me happy....the film is called CRIA CUERVOS (Raise >ravens) and it's fab, but heres the main reason for the post.... the >film has this song in it which Ana plays on her Dansette (or >whatever) and they dance around the living room to it, until their >grandmother calls them, and Ana goes to attend to her. And this song, >I don't know who it's by, but it's fab. I don't who it's by either, but it reminds me of the film "L'effrontee", starring the magnificent Charlotte Gainsbourg. She keeps playing a song on her dansette, and it's complete saccharin but I love it. It reminds me of trying to snog this girl called Florence on the French exchange when I was 14, and blowing it cos I trod on her feet while we were smooching. Anyway, Charlotte is pissed off in the film cos she sees all her classmates going to a club called the "Roule-Roule", which has now taken over from "The Sinister Soul Weekender" as my preferred name for our planned night. Either that or "Carnage Fuckers", which I suspect will be Keith's preferred choice. Where the hell is Keith, anyway? Comrade Elisa wrote: >Find a pub that will let you play records all night, tape up the >posters and start your own fun. Even better, take your treasures home >and have a private disco in the comfort of your living room... You know, Elisa, you have many qualities I look for in a woman. then John, John, the Dandy Don wrote: >To the point though. Mr Robert "MC Taggart" McTaggart will be >venturing forth from his bedroom in a couple of Saturdays time. Armed >with his carrier bag of obscure European pop greats that nobody likes >and Northern Soul comps on Kent that everybody loves. He will be >strutting his stuff and spinning some mean tunes at Manchester's >Smile. Anybody in the Manchester area that fancies going along and >offering a bit of moral support would probably be appreciated. I'd prefer immoral support, but yes, it's true. And why stop at the Manchester Area - why don't you all come? October 17th, Star and Garter, Fairfield Street, Manchester. Two pounds. Anyone who went to our little Aftershow party at Christmas will know what to expect, although there should be more people serving at the bar this time. You may even get to see me and the Dandy himself doing our patented "camp northern soul dancing". >You'll be able to identify Robert by his big smile and abnormally >petite feet. I've never dared look at his feet myself but I have >noticed some shoes lying around his house that I assumed belonged to >a small child. John's been itching to say that for months. He's sitting there in Wythenshawe feeling thoroughly pleased with himself. And with Julian as his scriptwriter, who can blame him? Finally, Cynthia Someone, I want you to know that you moved me. I mean it. Love tag xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mjh18 at xxx.uk Thu Oct 8 10:22:35 1998 From: mjh18 at xxx.uk (mjh18 at xxx.uk) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:22:35 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Disco baby, sexy baby, hot! In-Reply-To: from "Mctaggart, Robert" at Oct 7, 98 01:38:11 pm Message-ID: <8690.199810080922@owl.le.ac.uk> > Can anyone shed any light on the strange rumour that the old Captain > Bird's Eye was sacked and replaced with the new "hunky" version, because > it came to light that the old Cap'n was, in fact, a woman. Seeing as > how my own father was cast as the good Captain in an office looky-likey > competition, I have a vested interest in knowing the truth. This is both untrue and wrong. My mum used to work as a REP for Birds Eye way back in the early eighties, and did an in-store demonstration of fish fingers (why?) and such like with THE Captain Birdseye one time (one time). He was indeed a fella, and a nice one too. Unfortunately my mum went on to have nightmares for days about hordes of screaming kids descending upon her demanding small sections of fish finger. The REAL dirt in Birdseye lies in the devastated hopes of The Birdseye Twins, focus of a HUGE advertising campaign that was lost to the nation due to the ITV strike... Mark +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koogydelbbog at xxx.com Thu Oct 8 10:43:14 1998 From: koogydelbbog at xxx.com (andrew dean) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 02:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: re: Angry Rant Message-ID: <19981008094314.10432.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> Sinister: Angry Rant Brier Random (brier at pipeline.com) Wed, 7 Oct 1998 22:28:05 -0700 >I don't want to lose this list from my life due to a clogging of my >computer arteries. I love this and want to keep loving it. Selfish? >You betcha. >Love, Bee speaking of clogging up computer arteries, can EVERYBODY please turn off the html in their messages. go look in the archives* and see what a damn mess html messages look like to us archive users. we don't need two copies of your text splattered throughout with equal signs and paragraphs like the following: >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >------=_NextPart_000_0042_01BDF241.C0F32C40 >Content-Type: text/plain; >charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable if you're using netscape mail then to turn it off go to edit - preferences - mail & groups - messages and make sure the top box ('By default send html messages') is clear. what were netscape thinking when they introduced this? * http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/hypermail/current/0239.html andy == andrew dean (koogydelbbog at yahoo.com) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cleonard at xxx.COM Thu Oct 8 10:47:30 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:47:30 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Oon/Macchio/Lord Anthony Message-ID: Philippe wrote: > I dont know whether oon is a boy or a girl, but I have decided that a > Belle&Sebastian fan from FarEast deserves a tape. Oh, Oon is all girl. Uh-huh. Me and my miss Julia had the pleasure of looking after her on the recent Belle and Sebastian UK tour and I miss her terribly. Oon means 'warm' and it doesn't matter how many o's you put in front of it, it still means 'warm'. Like this "oooooooooooon". That means warm. She carries little bottles of strange medicines about with her, rhino tusk and the like to cure indigestion. She scares easily and has a huge gambling problem, like her mother before her. Talking of Ralph Macchio, I went to sleep last night listening to blues legend Robert Johnston. Next thing I was dreaming I was Ralph Macchio making my way down to the crossroads to sell my soul to the devil. And the devil was there in his big black hat with a strange white goatee beard. I wish I could sell my soul to the song snake. And he goes "Jack Butler's gonna like you" and took me to hell which looked a lot like a seedy bar with loose woman and sluts. Then it just got dirty, sort of like one of those dreams Murdoch has. Why don't people tell us their dirty dreams, I've had a cracker about Linda Bellingham, ask Honey. Speaking of new songs, I have no idea how this "Lord Anthony" song goes at all. I've never heard it! I thought I'd have a stab at the lyrics anyway. Lord Anthony ============ Lord Anthony, your little dog Keeps trying to lick my face It's a disgrace yes a disgrace. Trained dogs should not jump on boys Are you stupid? You're not fit to have a dog Lord Anthony. It's a short song, I think. christopher +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sburon at xxx.fr Thu Oct 8 11:26:12 1998 From: sburon at xxx.fr (Stephane Buron) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 12:26:12 +0200 Subject: Sinister: I'm in a mess, I'm in a dress... Message-ID: <361C933D.12AC@club-internet.fr> Hi list, This is just to tell you what I thought about the B&S gig in Paris two days ago, at La Cigale... I must confess that I thought, before the gig, that it could be disappointing : La Cigale is a big venue, the gig had been sold out for several weeks, the price of tickets on the black market was about 300 francs (30 quids)... And sometimes, french audience are not very respectful for artists and they keep talking laughing and drinking during songs... It could have been like the gig in Nottingham, fot those who were there : too crowdy, too big, too hot. But it wasnt. It was definitely crowdy, yes, and we couldnt even find a seat upstairs. So we had to stand on the ground floor, a few meters from the scene. And the gig was brilliant, once again. They played songs from their three albums, from the EPs, and they even played some new songs, especially Lord Anthony... They seemed happy to be on stage, happy to play their music. And the audience were quiet and silent during these seconds when Stuart's voice is the only thing we can hear, or even between two songs. If angels could sing, they would have Stuart's voice... The audience were silent and calm enough to make me forget the crowd. Friends of mine, who are b&s fans as well, have been disappointed however : they said that if they had stayed at home listening to the record, it would have been the same. They even said that the band was too shy, too twee, that there was no communication with the audience. "No soul", they said... They can say anything, I dont mind. This gig was magic. But now it's over. And I'm in a mess. Do you find it normal to drown in some kind of depression after such a gig? I dont know. I cant help thinking that I wont have the opportunity to see B&S again... maybe later, in a year, but it seems so far away from here... Just a last word to thank all the young, tall, elegant rich kids who could make it at La Fourmi for the meet-up before the gig. You were very nice. There were many listees and other french popkids. I wish I could have had the time to chat longer but I was very busy trying to say hello to everyone, finding a ticket for Niall and his girlfriend, looking for David and Katrina... By the way, special thanks to them : it was a pleasure to give out Jeepster catalogues in the venue with you. I tryed to find you after the gig but you seemed to have disappeared! Last special thanks to Niall, to Brian, to Julien, Eric, and, last but not least, Philippe... Well, that's it. Take care, Stéphane -- Visitez le Tweeclub sur http://www.chez.com/tweeclub "I had a job in an office once, I never talked to anyone..." Belle and Sebastian, Pocketbook Angel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Gntlmn1220 at xxx.com Thu Oct 8 13:54:18 1998 From: Gntlmn1220 at xxx.com (Gntlmn1220 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:54:18 EDT Subject: Sinister: Last Ditch Attempt at Helpfulness Message-ID: <3dd255a1.361cb5fa@aol.com> Dearest Sinister Mates, I make no bones of contention to you all as to the very family oriented lifestyle that we have concocted,but I must now go down on my knees and prostrate myself to the collective Sinister mailing list. I am in dire need of a ticket to see the November second show. There are prospects, but they are slim. There are promises, but they are pie-crust promises. There is nothing that is written in stone, that can help me more than delusional daydreaming. Is there anyone out there, any kind sould that has a ticket for the November second show that must, for medical reasons, because they have died, or because you have just decided to hate Belle and Sebastian not go to the show? Let me know. I will await your anwers. Please. Your Devoted Servant, Joshua +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Oct 8 14:21:14 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:21:14 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Catherine Zeta-Jobby Message-ID: <01bdf2be$86c976a0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Sarah, I asked about your mysterious Spanish song last night, and got a full song and dance routine in the kitchen. In a funny accent. I hope this helps. What else? Is the song "Lord Anthony" about the children's clothing company of the same name? If so, I presume it is a Murdoch composition. Katrina, we miss you terribly. In the meantime, here's my guess at the lyrics: ------------------------------------------------ Ladybird pants and socks and vest, My mum buys them, she knows best, Clark's shoes shiny, scuff-proof, have you seen? I had to go on the tickly foot measuring machine, My smart new trousers, it's plain to see, Were made for poofters by Lord Anthony! Lord Anthony, Lord Anthony, Helped by gnomes and a little fairy! Lord Anthony, Lord Anthony Reasonable prices, but not for free! ------------------------------------------------- It's still a short song, but a bit longer than Christopher's. Northern Soul! Stuart's party would benefit from the following CDs. I'm not going bore everyone rigid by going on and on and on about what I've got, I'm going to bore everyone rigid by going on and on and on about what I'd like, please and thank you. The Twisted Wheel Story Vol 2 - on Goldmine. This contains a "wierd bee sting dance" and "primitive instrumentals". What more could one ask for at a party? Shrine - The Rarest Soul Label - on Kent A good trick is to read the introductory pieces written about Kent releases on the Ace Records website. If the reviewer appears to have completely lost his trolly due to extreme ecstasy, it's usually good. If they just seem to say, well, it's really good, it's probably not that good really. Good but not great. Or great but not truly magnificent. You get the idea. This one gets raved about big style by Adrian Croasdale or whatever his name is. He seems to know his onions. Must be a right freak in fact. 5000 Volts of Stax - on..erm.. Stax As above. Not strictly Northern Soul, but I still don't know what that is anyway. Sounds great, I love Stax. You-Know-Who is on it. And the Staple Singers. Signifying! - on BGP Greasy organ led jazzy funk instrumentals. Great for parties. Probably. There are loads of others I could recommend to myself, but I'd get my mailbox jammed with "returned due to boredom" messages. Which, incidentally, is a terrible idea. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. And I don't mean pull their pants down and stuff baby wombles up their bum. Peter PS: Thanks to PhiLiPPe for pointing out my mistakes the other day. It is of course Bernard LENOIR and not Bernard BRESSLOIRE as I had written. But there's no way I'll ever learn the name of that song, so it's POOPY POO from now on. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From coucou-gamin at xxx.com Thu Oct 8 14:30:40 1998 From: coucou-gamin at xxx.com (Bernard Dub) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:30:40 +0200 Subject: Sinister: the boy with the arab tape Message-ID: Hey you all, B&S were yesterday at the Botanique in Brussels. The show was sold out and very good. Here's the song list. 1. ? 2. the rollercoaster ride 3. paperboat 4. it could have been a brilliant carreer 5. sleep the clock around 6. i know where the summer goes 7. the wrong girl 8. the state I am in 9. tbwtas 10. like dylan in the movies 11. seymour stein 12. belle and sebastian 13. get me away from here, i'm dying 14. ? the question marks refer to songs i don't know. I've tried to track them back through the lyrics, and haven't succeded. So they could be newbies or covers. Maybe some people can help out, so here are bits of lyrics from the unknown songs : 1. starts with "there's a portray? in the backroom?..." or something like that at some point : "you're still falling..." 14. starts with the organ, pretty groovy. the chorus says the same phrase three times "yoouuu could've known" or something like that, and then "but i forget very well". I happen to have a recording of this show, it's a minidisc of very good quality. You can hear all the instruments very well. Stereo. 70 minutes long (whole show, no encores). I'd be happy to make other people benefit from this, but unfortunately I really don't have neither the time nor the equipment to start dubbing at an industrial rate... So I'll trade it with other stuff from B&S or other artists (divine comedy, pavement, mogwai, pram, stereolab...), but stuff ** on minidisc ** in priority. A tree is welcome -- if someone else volunteers to organise it... E-mail me private for further talk : coucou-gamin at geocities.com Have a nice day - I have. Bernard. "pissing can be quite an adventure." charles bukowski http://rocksoup.cediti.be _______________________Bernard Dubuisson________ Av. Georges Lemaître 21 C E D I T I B-6041 Gosselies, Belgium CEntre de DIffusion Tél +32 71 25 94 66 des Technologies Fax +32 71 37 20 64 de l'Information e-mail dub at cediti.be ______________________ http://www.cediti.be ____ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jwemyss at xxx.uk Thu Oct 8 16:00:31 1998 From: jwemyss at xxx.uk (James Wemyss) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:00:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Help Message-ID: <19981008135646.AAA7604@jwemyss.musicchoice.co.uk> Can anyone tell me who 'stlucy' is ?.....she appears in the photos section of the Sinister Mailing List....... http://www.musicchoice.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sandrad at xxx.com Thu Oct 8 15:05:22 1998 From: sandrad at xxx.com (Sandra Duric) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 10:05:22 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Nick Hornby's Review of Lazy Line Painter Jane Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981008100522.00929730@mail.accu-staff.com> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 7773 bytes Desc: not available URL: From cleonard at xxx.COM Thu Oct 8 16:34:33 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:34:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: An Apology Message-ID: Hello, I would like to apologise to Oon and Oon's family for saying she and her mother have a gambling problem. It was a very irresponsible statement and totally untrue. Oon is not at all addicted to the Thai underground lottery thing, and has never resorted to theft to feed her entirely fictional filthy habit. And she wasn't nearly expelled from school for it either. It's all lies. She's as pure as they come. Also, Oon doesn't scare as easily I would in a taxi motorbike in Thailand. I just want to make that clear. I scare more easily than Oon, and she certainly does not have a gambling problem. Thank you for your time, Christopher +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Thu Oct 8 16:49:42 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:49:42 +0100 () Subject: Sinister: My one regret is that I never got to Ongar. And now I never will. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: i'm sorry, but i have to be the second person (i noticed that Jake is from sussex so i thought he'd be first, and i was right) to take issue with you seb. i may live in york now but i'm a brightonian at heart, til death do us part, and in case no-one noticed, this fantastic town is in sussex. and other parts of sussex are nice as well. and i don't know many people who bother with kent at all. who would? ooh, no that was harsh, but as jake pointed out we have our own supply of country pubs (complete with CAMRA idiots, some of whom probably migrate from kent.) that rant over, i'd just like to say that i am very very tired after a night of ill-judged and probably laughable dancing in a nasty student club, and an afternoon being talked at by odd lecturers who want me to read postwar italian novels, for some reason that my addled brain cannot grasp. thankyou essexdog person by the way for thinking that i rawk. you may have changed your opinion had you seen me last night. and i love funkyseb's posts too, except when he slags off sussex, natch. :) bye darlings, i must go and cobble together a real life. archelita xx ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Gregoire.Dubost at xxx.fr Thu Oct 8 16:53:12 1998 From: Gregoire.Dubost at xxx.fr (Gregoire \"Freak\" Dubost) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 17:53:12 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Re: Lord anthony References: <01bdf2be$86c976a0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Message-ID: <361CDFE8.9951DFC6@polytechnique.fr> Hello to all the members of the list, which i joined just after the Paris concert on tuesday. Lord Anthony is a beautiul song (who said as ever?) about a boy smarter than the others. Oddly enough, i had the impression to have heard the song before when they played it at the show. but it is certainly an illusion -- Gregoire Dubost 50.08 mailto:Gregoire.Dubost at Polytechnique.fr "To die in a pub is my definite plan With my mouth to the tap, just as close as I can. Then the angels would say, when the singing began 'Oh Lord, please show mercy to this boozy man'" The Lamb and Flag, London La page du Cine-Club de l'X: http://www.polytechnique.fr/eleves/binet/cineclub/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com Thu Oct 8 16:55:18 1998 From: Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com (Jim Schmidt) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 98 08:55:18 MST Subject: Sinister: mojave 3 Message-ID: <9809089078.AA907862465@mail.newtimes.com> mojave 3's "out of tune" has now replaced B&S on my turntable...i know...i know...this isn't really B&S related...but in a way, it is...because mick cooke is involved (albeit on two tracks already released on singles)...however, i haven't been so moved since the recent B&S...and i don't think there is a mojave 3 list... it's simply fantastic, though clocking in at nine tunes (3 of which had already been released), it's a short high...anyway, my request to all you fans who may be going to one of the upcoming shows in the uk...email me privately...i'm interested if anyone is taping the show or if they're selling any "fan" stuff at the gigs...even just an email to let me know how it was...i'd really appreciate it. i apologize to those who could care less about this posting...but if you haven't heard it, it's simply beautiful...a bit drake, a bit dylan...all halstead (along with the divine rachel goswell and mysterious ian)...and don't forget mick's trumpet on two tracks! anyway, thanks for your tolerance. jim. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From csomeone at xxx.com Thu Oct 8 17:16:59 1998 From: csomeone at xxx.com (Cynthia Someone) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 09:16:59 PDT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981008161707.24296.qmail@hotmail.com> I thought I wouldn't be sending to the list, being all scrivened out (doesn't that sound like a squirrely, wiggly line), but last night I was listening to this song last night and I thought I might appeal to the Brazilians of the list and ask the following question: what are the lyrics to O sonho acabou, by Gilberto Gil. Just got A temperada verao (ao vivao na Bahia), 1974, and listening to it last Saturday, driving through the Berkeley hills in the morning, just after getting all stretched out and yummy from yoga class, oh what pleasure. (A little taste of california life) The air was so clear, you could see all the way out to the Golden Gate, and everything was crystal. David, my friend was quiet all the way, a painter. I asked him how he was and said, "I'm good. Just thinking about the day ... it's so beautiful out." So it was a perfect day for the song, which has such joy and the audience responding with all its heart, and Mr. Gilberto Gil can't contain himself with all his chirps and yelps. Also, even though it sounds like a good idea to try to make the list less boring, I don't know how it could help things to tell people to be more interesting or shut up. There's probably someone out there that automatically deletes me, or Fluffy, or Mr. jake, or whoever. That which is entertaining to you may not be entertaining to others. There are a lot of sensitive people on this list, I've noticed, and being told how boring you are couldn't exactly make your day, and maybe not illicit a more interesting response (I'll leave it up to you to decide what interesting is). It may illicit no response and then maybe no one would contribute to the list except people with their guards up and their tails between their legs, trying to look cool instead of like themselves. maybe I'm not understanding what you meant.In which case, you can delete this message. But keep the saturday morning bit, there's really no harm in it. In peace Cynthia ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lapis at xxx.edu Thu Oct 8 18:02:37 1998 From: lapis at xxx.edu (dave cohen) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:02:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: philly openers Message-ID: <199810081702.NAA27921@pobox.upenn.edu> will apparently be Cinerama... anyone have any info/opinions on em? 'pologies if i've missed this in the mail deluge --dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sburon at xxx.fr Thu Oct 8 18:06:47 1998 From: sburon at xxx.fr (Stephane Buron) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 19:06:47 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Re: Lord anthony References: <01bdf2be$86c976a0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> <361CDFE8.9951DFC6@polytechnique.fr> Message-ID: <361CF124.7B7A@club-internet.fr> "Gregoire \"Freak\" Dubost" wrote: > Lord Anthony is a beautiul song (who said as ever?) about a boy smarter > than the others. Oddly enough, i had the impression to have heard the > song before when they played it at the show. but it is certainly an > illusion ... Strange... A friend of mine told me the same yesterday night after listening to this song... To tell you the truth, I was much too moved by angel Stuart's voice to say where I could have heard this song before... Had some of you already heard it? It seems to be a very new song, have they already played it live? Anyway, "Anthony" is to write down on the list or the favourite names of the band (remember If You're Feeling Sinister) along with others as Judy, Lisa and others I dont remember... Stephane -- Visitez le Tweeclub sur http://www.chez.com/tweeclub "I had a job in an office once, I never talked to anyone..." Belle and Sebastian, Pocketbook Angel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From janine at xxx.com Thu Oct 8 19:56:06 1998 From: janine at xxx.com (Janine Papp) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:56:06 -0500 Subject: Sinister: bees please Message-ID: PJ Miller claims: >The Twisted Wheel Story Vol 2 - on Goldmine. >This contains a "wierd bee sting dance" oh boy!!!!! As some of you may have realized, I am OBSESSED with bees. In fact, I often do a "bee dance" of my own. bees do an amazing dance that shows the other bees which way to go to find the best pollen for honeymaking. So, they waggle their little bee butts and move around in a circle. It is so cute. So when I dance around, I waggle my butt and use my arms as wings. really, I do. OK, b&s content: my evil ex boyfriend who owns a record store has a big The Boy With the Arab Strap poster up in the window. I don't know how I feel about this. queen bee janine +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Thu Oct 8 19:26:10 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:26:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: RE: sinister-digest V2 #397 In-Reply-To: <199810080849.JAA11886@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000001bdf2e9$1f9370a0$ae0c93c3@whelan> Bee wrote... > I know this doesn't help, but I need to say it. > I had 60 posts today that I scrolled through as fast as the button would = > take me, then just as quickly deleted. If anyone else finds themselves = > faced with boring junk they can't delete fast enough, don't just delete = > it. Send a mail (private!) to the sender (only!) saying "Deleted cuz of = > boredom" and THEN delete it. To quote Paul Calf, "Inside every bag of shite, there is a spark of gold"..... sadly it wasn't yours though. Yes it can get a bit tiring flicking through all the ones that don't interest you, but does that warrant you sending crap to them ?. > Is Honey back yet to second my emotion? = Yes but he's ill, i'm sure he'll be interested to read about your plans to swamp members of his list with junk mail though. One more thing, will you do your future posts in plain text please, as all that HTML shite clogs up the digest. See Ya Gary +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grabutcho at xxx.com Thu Oct 8 19:31:22 1998 From: grabutcho at xxx.com (Julien Boeldieu) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:31:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Angels of Scotland and Paris unite (and take over) Message-ID: <19981008183122.16189.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> Hello everyone :) St�phane has wrote the perfect letter about the Paris concert. That was exactly what I thought after it. I was quite happy that evening and they made me feel happier. Joyful indeed. And, yes, angelic... Angels, angels... that's the right word. The *only* word. Mmmmm... Bernard Lenoir said yesterday he had heard that the session was better than the concert. I don't know. I don't care. The fact is that they played without touching the ground. Hey ! Angels have no soul : only thrilling cristal voices and wings. They played in the air, and they took us (well, me at least and St�phane apparently) with them away. They sang a delightful version of "Lazy line painter Jane" -- quite laidback and joyful, with a brilliant, warm, blazing, noisy final. Actually I made the wish before the gig that they'd play it... I tell you they're angels... I really appreciated the audience too. Respectful, silent, but very enthusiast as well. I mean, the gig was absolutely not a religious moment. We just showed *respect*. I truly think something happened between them and us. We compelled them to be less shy that night, I think. However I disagree with St�phane about the venue. To me La Cigale is the perfect one. Not too big, not too small -- and lovely (it's my fave here). Just *perfect*. BUT... why don't they play much longer ? 15 songs, 1 hour and 10 minutes, no encores, that's very disappointing and maybe a bit (I dare !) scornful. I don't mean they are so, but that it's their behaviour that is. I mean, they're so rare and they know so much that they are... I'd like to thank St�phane for having give me a copy of a little wonder called "Tigermilk" too. I wish I could have given him the tape of the session he asked me (I'm feeling so bad for that !) and talked more to him. He was so busy that I just had time to say hello... But the delightful girl I was with and me agree to say he looks adorable. Pour une prochaine fois, peut-�tre... Love and kisses to everyone, Julien. == "Je ne remets jamais � demain ce que je peux faire le surlendemain" ** Alphonse Allais ** _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tangent at xxx.net Thu Oct 8 19:59:07 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 19:59:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: bollocks References: <361BDED3.3229E4FE@icon.com> Message-ID: <361D0B7B.C0CB0B19@lineone.net> well everyone seems to be having a rare old time on the list of late... can't say i've been enjoying much though, and i've been hitting delete with heady abandon. i'm probably being the list equivalent of one of those boring old fuckers who still only play the same records they had at 16 when they're 32, but i do seem to only find time to read posts by the old guard. At least they make me laugh... Ah, kids today, they just can't cut it. Anyway, here's a few musings: Ethan Sincoff wrote: well, shouted rather curtly i thought, about a few things, and then added: > RACHEL IS COOL. SHE HAS A MARY LOU LORD PAGE,.... CHECK IT OUT KIDS!! which made me think maybe the whole shouty rant was ironic. i do hope so. Anyone who doesn't like mary lou lord and who'd like a giggle is advised to take a few minutes and go read Everett True's humorous assault in his 'Hugs and Kisses' article on Tangents. URL at the bottom, as you regulars well know. ET also has a Magnetic Fields review, which balances things up rather :-) I do hope that Honey is getting well, and that he will soon be back amongst us, doling out words of comfort and wisdom. Tomorrow I am sending him the Fuxa tape i promised him ages ago, and i suggest that lots of you follow the advice of ms wagner and send him equivalent gifts of well wishing. i am tired and emotional and listening to Hash Jar Tempo, which i found today and which is divine. this morning i played McCarthy's 'Frans Hals' to about 250 15 year olds. later on they laughed at me. which is fair enough. the new stereolab packaging is very pretty. keep the faith, the duke -- 'all of our dreams are dying of overdoses' Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SPRFNK at xxx.com Thu Oct 8 21:19:11 1998 From: SPRFNK at xxx.com (SPRFNK at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:19:11 EDT Subject: Sinister: philly openers Message-ID: cinerama is really good---you should definitely arrive to see them---you wont be disappointed :) ok that is enough from me -kristin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lapis at xxx.edu Thu Oct 8 21:29:05 1998 From: lapis at xxx.edu (dave cohen) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:29:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: cinerama (philly openers) Message-ID: <199810082029.QAA25399@pobox.upenn.edu> received a few replies on Cinerama, including info on their webpage, at-- http://www.cinerama.co.uk/home.html thanks all! --dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From terri_wise at xxx.com Thu Oct 8 22:29:55 1998 From: terri_wise at xxx.com (Wise, Terri) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:29:55 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Something fishy... Message-ID: <199810082129.AA23594@interlock.mgh.com> Yeah yeah... Everyone is telling me about this sturgeon business. I grew up in a land-locked area and I don't EAT fish... I guess I don't know about all these fish types... And what's this about rioting at B&S shows? I mean, I love their music, but rioting seems a bit off the mark! Or is this another one of those jokes that I'm just not getting? Has anyone already commented (probably long ago!) on the fact that many of the list members appear to work for music-related companies? Not that it's surprising, but I've not encountered this many on other lists I've seen. But I don't want you all to think I'm an insufferable crank... really I'm not! So onto some B&S adoration to prove it... A fellow B&S lover and I were discussing the fact that one of the things we've liked right from the start about the band is their seeming lack of pretense. Their music feels very sincere. The songs that are so easy to relate to that you feel you've heard them a million times before on just the first listen are songs that are just GENUINE (like, I imagine, this new Lord Anthony people have been raving about). At the moment, my favorite tunes are Seeing Other People (that piano is tremendous - very RIGHT , and of course the words...) and Judy and the Dream of Horses - just a beautiful song. So I saw myself as a quiet one... but I guess I was wrong - or, at least, now I am. Terri Wise Editorial Assistant McGraw-Hill College (617) 867-9805 Fax (617) 375-2285 sturgeon... trout... get it? :) >Neil mentioned the writer Kilgore Trout in Vonnegut's novels... I just >wanted to make it clear that this is a fictional character... And where's >this fish link? If it were, "80% of everything is CARP," that would >follow... > > > >Terri Wise +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Thu Oct 8 23:42:45 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:42:45 EDT Subject: Sinister: Bill Withers was good to me Message-ID: You bastards. I've been trying really hard all day not to post to the list, but then the standards of the posts today...jesus. So here we are again. someone I fear not all of you love quite as much as you should wrote: <> Please don't leave us alone again Duke. This is why I stay subbed. I can see it all now...it's very poignant. One day I will make a film of it. Mmm. On my Super 8. I was reminded of the duke the other day actually, when that Lenoir chap played a bit of Felt, just before the now legendary black session. Nice touch, I thought. The very poetically named Julien wrote: <> Angels indeed. Naughty ones, but none the less, angels. I've done nothing today except listen to tape after tape of interviews and sessions, and god! you just want to wrap this lot up warmly and make them a nice cup of milky tea. I used to like noisy rock and roll once you know kids...and used to mosh along to earsplitting feedback, In crappy indie toilets; fuelled by cheap lager. This lot have neutered me. All I do now is write crappy poetry and draw pictures of foxes....anyone else sold their soul to rock n' roll, only to have it cleaned, redeemed, and returned to them by Stuart Murdoch? Ooh, on a poetry tip: Has everyone else forgotten that it's national poetry day today? (seeing as 90% of us seem to be americans now, it's not really relevant I supose). I expected M. du Pantalon to say something on the matter, but I imagine he had a busy day doing whatever poetry people do when they're excited. Drinking too much and falling over, as I recall :-) Well, I look forward to reading the winning entries to the haiku competition. And Trousers, can you forget all about the one I sent you? You know what it's like- you write a poem that you *know* is the best thing ever written, you tell it to someone, and you realise it actually goes: lalalalalalala self lalalalalalala shelf lalalalalalala orange. lalalalalalala oh. ......bollocks. But that's not what I was going to say. I was going to tell you just how much fun I'm having listening to Too Rye Ay at the moment. I just can't get enough of it. I think I've had enough, but I haven't. I think 'that's enough', but I'm wrong. It's not. I need more. I 'cannot' physically, 'have enough' of 'it'.* Would anyone care to tell me privately, ie OFF THE LIST, what happened to Kevin Rowland's rumoured career? Kevin Rowland is Stuart Murdoch with an ego. But he's not as nice. Or as angelic. Rowland gets no tea and cake from me. Someone said a while ago that we should post our dirty dreams to the list. Well, I'm too innocent to have dirty dreams (seriously, kids), but I can reveal that the theme tune to Brush Strokes used to give me a hard on. byebye seb *The first person to recognise which comedian I just ripped that off wins a picture of a fox. Signed by the artist. Me. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Thu Oct 8 23:49:27 1998 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Stan The Man) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 15:49:27 PDT Subject: Sinister: Macchio is king again Message-ID: <19981008224929.9787.qmail@hotmail.com> Christopher wrote: >Talking of Ralph Macchio, I went to sleep last night listening to blues >legend Robert Johnston. Next thing I was dreaming I was Ralph Macchio >making my way down to the crossroads to sell my soul to the devil. I have a copy of an interview with him, he's real,you know... not only in christophers dreams,but in our hearts as well. CT:It's great to see you again,Ralph!You,Kirk Cameron,Sean Astin and Michael J. Fox helped to make this publication what it is today.How do you feel your 80's image affected your career? Ralph Macchio:(lights cigarette) What career? Ct:Your career as a bona fide boy-toy! Ralph:(exhaling with a hint of malaise) Fuck off. Ct:Is everything going well for you these days,Raplh?How is your wife,Mandy? Ralph:She split with the kids last year.Stay informed you misanthrope. (to bartender) McCallan's,neat.Hold the ice. CT: Are you a proponent of responsible teen drinking? Ralph:No. CT:Why is that?Don't you feel that irresponsible drinking amongst teens can lead to things such as pregnancy or even death in some cases? Ralph:I'm still alive aren't I? Wait,don't answer that. CT:There were silly rumors circulating a few years back that you were in drug rehab.How did you handle that tabloid trash? Ralph:Those weren't rumors,shit face.I did 18 months in Betty Ford for coke addiction.Sure,it was a shitty gig,but I had to get clean. CT:For your fans? Ralph:What fans? CT:Is everything OK,Ralph? Ralph:(tears fill his eyes)Fuck off... CT:Ralph,I'm sorry if... Ralph:No,I'm sorry...I'm sorry I agreed to do this interview (knocks back his drink) CT:Before you go,Ralph..what is your idea of a dream date? RM:A night of peace and quiet at my Montana ranch,a bottle of Hochtaler and Mindy Cohn on my face. CT:(laughs) RM:I'm not joking. Cheers, Stan p.s I enjoy Belle And Sebastian AND cheese,in combination even. p.p.s Any single girls out there who like a man who likes Belle & Sebastian and cheese? You know,people often mistake me for Ralph Macchio. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Fri Oct 9 00:14:26 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:14:26 EDT Subject: Sinister: ''But if you see a man crying, hold his hand; he's my friend.'' Message-ID: Two things: 1) Sorry for the arrogance in my last post. I didn't mean to infer that I was fascinating and everyone else is shit. Which is what it sounded like. 2) <> It's time I explained this riot thing: from 'Thrills', the 'funny' page of the NME 'Thrills is proud to announce an alternative to the NME/NFT film festival, to be held next Monday night upstairs at my garage in our den. Only members of my gang can come.' CARNAGE FUCKERS Never before seen footage of the riot at Belle and Sebastian's gig at the Chelsea flower show. Supressed by the band until now, the visceral power of this piece simply has to be witnessed. You are in the thick of the action as an audience member accidentally drops their flask of Ribena over someone's travel blanket and all hell breaks loose as the whole crowd go 'Ssssh!' in unison.' I like that a lot actually. First funny thing they've done yet. Was Johnny Cigarettes at one of the recent gigs, by any chance? That explanation was pretty pointless wasn't it? As no-one outside the UK's going to know what the fuck Ribena and travel blankets are....It's like trying to explain Noel Edmonds to an alien. bye bye seb BTW, pookie59 at hotmail.com (Stan The Man) wrote: Stan? Stan? Has Genevieve had a sex change then? I'm devastated. ;-) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From twinkle at xxx.net Fri Oct 9 03:26:37 1998 From: twinkle at xxx.net (petula) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 02:26:37 GMT Subject: Sinister: Help (Saintlucy) Message-ID: <199810090226.CAA19916@trapdoor.aracnet.net> At 03:00 PM 10/8/1998 +0000, James Wemyss wrote: > >Can anyone tell me who 'stlucy' is ?.....she >appears in the photos section of the Sinister >Mailing List....... Subtle, aren't you? But anyhow, I'm afraid it's too late. Saintlucy already has a girlfriend. love, elisabeth xoxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Fri Oct 9 09:46:48 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:46:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: It's a Beauty Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7BA8@COR-EXG1> Uncle Peter wrote : >Northern Soul! Stuart's party would benefit from the following CDs. Alternatively Stuart, you could go to your nearest HMV (stop spitting at me you lot) and look in their sale boxes (if the sales still on), and I'll think you'll find there are several northern-soul compilations for about £5 each. You can't go wrong for a fiver can you ? Even if it's shit you can turn it into a frisbee party.....I've seen you lot of shandy-drinking-poofs anyway, after 11 o'clock you won't care what's on the stereo. Archel wrote : >i'm sorry, but i have to be the second person (i noticed that Jake is >from sussex so i thought he'd be first, and i was right) to take issue >with you seb. I'll turd that (as they say in Ballykiss-a), my good lady is from a very well-to-do place just outside of Bognorcyrillegregis full of very nice wealthy people. Kent is the Garden of England.....I fucking hate gardening. "The Big Boys......Are in the Butchers". +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Oct 9 11:17:21 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:17:21 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Purple Hayes Message-ID: <01bdf36e$003d2040$LocalHost@itjfvkli> All this talk about Ms. Campbell's charm and shy ways - don't you all realise that she's an ELECTRIC STORMTROOPER of LOVE?! That's her mum, third from the left on the cover of JIMI HENDRIX's double album "Electric Ladyland". Marjorie Campbell, better known in certain circles as Marjorie Plastercaster, spent the latter half of the sixties making unique limited edition souvenirs of the rock glitterati. In return, she was given hundreds of free records, which have gone on to form the backbone of Isobel's collection, which in turn has inspired Belle and Sebastian in their quest to brew up the perfect pop hotch-potch. That's the story of the blues, parts 1 and 2. Speaking of JIMI HENDRIX, I've just been listening to the BBC sessions by JIMI HENDRIX and his trusty EXPERIENCE. It's not that good really, but I thought I'd mention it anyway. Well, I like the songs from "Electric Ladyland", they're very effective when shorn of studio trickery. Alexis Korner seems like a nice place. Janine wrote: So when I dance around, I waggle my butt and use my arms as wings. really, I do. We believe you, Janine. Do you make like buzzy buzzy bee noises at the same time? Isaac Hayes based the flute line on one of his songs on The Flight of the Bumblebee, you know. They're fairly lazy, sensuous bees by the time he's finished with them, but it's the thought that counts. the welcom return of The Duke included: i am tired and emotional and listening to Hash Jar Tempo, which i found today and which is divine. Do you mean Ash Ra Tempel? They are indeed divine, as Keith can testify. It's not the kind of thing you listen to everyday, but just every once in a while it's really good. I did (another) tape of Krautrock last night, and really enjoyed listening to it for the first time in ages, particularly La Dusseldorf, excellent stuff, complete with aeroplane noises. Especially inspiring on "a decent pair of headphones". That reminds me, in all the excitement over the European dates, I haven't noticed a single report from Munich or that other place. Didn't anyone go? Councillor Cox PS: Reading through this message, it has occurred to me that I may have given the impression that I don't like studio trickery. Well I do, and apologise for any distress I may have caused. PPS: Oooooooon, I didn't know you had a gambling problem! I'm shocked and concerned, quite frankly. Why don't you have a flutter on a Turkish cleansweep in the European club competitions this year? I'm going to. Mister Conneely likes gambling too, if you remember. You could form a self help group. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nickdastoor at xxx.com Fri Oct 9 11:51:54 1998 From: nickdastoor at xxx.com (Nick Dastoor) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 03:51:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: you make me feel uncomfortable,and i like that,i need that Message-ID: <19981009105154.5296.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com> Pookie said: >you know what bothers me about some girls? they think belle and >sebaastian sound like hanson! and then i just make TINY retort >over their marylin manson and i get 'Don't make fun of it if you >don't understand it!' i'm sorry,but if you found mister marylin in >your cupboard wouldn't you pick up his slimy worm body with 2 sticks >and throw him out in the garbage!?!? Liking Belle and Sebastian is about being young and clever. Liking Marilyn Manson is about being young and webellious. I've never been sure which is more P!O!P!, but I was never very good at being webellious, whereas being clever is easy. I did once making a long atonal noise for several hours when my parents refused to let me stay up to watch 'Psycho', but they kept their nerve and I fell asleep. By the way, being webellious is definitely different to being rebellious, but is quite similar to being billious. Anyway, they next time these girls make an idiotic remark along these lines, make like you're squaring up for a fight, with your face right in theirs. Then lick them. They will probably taste horrid, but at least you'll gain the moral advantage. Archel wrote: >the night before was also funny. some friends and i were drinking >copious amounts of wine when suddenly a darling boy named al >produced a guitar and we all rocked into a spontaneous version of >'get me away...' of course it was rather drunken and poor, and not >really good enough for a tribute tape, but in its own little way it >felt like the greatest tribute to b&S there could be. 6 friends full >of love and happiness singing their hearts out in a small, messy >living room Last weekend, my friends were singing stupid songs like 'Bohemian Rhapsody' in a cave somewhere on the north Cornish coast and I insisted on not getting the point at all and piping up with countless Belle and Sebastian songs. Although I forgot the verse about priests in booths, my rendition of 'The State I Am In' nearly won round some non-believers. Hello Lindsey. Someone else wrote: So is anyone else going on the demo David and Katrina are holding outside XFM on Saturday? >I don't want to start off a fight on this topic again (check the >fight archives), but does no one else find this image ever so >slightly amusing? No? OK then. Philippe Garnier said: >They played a new song : Lord Anthony What a terrific name. I can't be the only one to spot that this was one of the C&A labels from the 80s. I used to have a great elephant. Also I had a great elephant grey anorak with a 'Lord Anthony' label on the left breast. Other great C&A labels: Clockhouse and Avanti! Actually, thinking about it, it might not have been a C&A label at all. It could have been a genuine independent imprint. Sorry, Lord Anthony. Then he asked: >Does anyone know which songs will be on the next EPs ? So Keith said: >it was going to be Paper Boar, I know where the Summer goes and the >Gate, not in any particular order. Dunno whether it's changed since then, but that's the word on the street at the moment. Paper Boar? What a terrific idea. Reminds me of last weekend again, when minibus games degenerated to 'Smiths songs with meat products in them'. 'Miserable Pie' was my favourite. And Keith, where is this street where forthcoming Belle and Sebastian releases get discussed. It sounds like my kind of thoroughfare. Nick xxx _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grthom at xxx.uk Fri Oct 9 12:18:33 1998 From: grthom at xxx.uk (G R Thomas) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:18:33 +0100 (British Summer Time) Subject: Sinister: Oh, this and that Message-ID: Hello everyone, Just a quick note to say hello and how's it gaaain'. This is my fist post after a very strenuous (but financially rewarding) summer. I've just got back to uni, and I hope I haven't missed *too* much. I went to the London show in September, and I thought it was wonderful, despite the wait. I won't lauch into a long ramble as I'm sure you've covered it already, I'll just say: I love the album. OK chaps, good to be back, See you soon, GIDEONxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Fri Oct 9 12:30:51 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:30:51 EDT Subject: Sinister: Beezer, Topper, Cheeky. Rest in peace. Message-ID: Hello kids, <> Agghh! leave me alone! It was a only a joke. Of course I don't hate sussex. much. I found this on the Chemikal Underground list, which is shite, to be honest, but occasionally something good comes up. That was where the ''Biscuit nibbling..'' thing started. They're not as 'ickle and cuddly and soft as us. Their list's also a fuckin' nail, as I believe the expression goes. Subject: Re: Arab Strap Stig escribió: > From: Stig > Maureen Ridley wrote: > > > > Um, but isn't it inside out? > > I thought the spikes were meant to point inwards but for confirmation, ask > > Stig. He brought this up. > > I'm getting a reputation... in fact I didn't know about the spikes, I > assure you. That was someone else who said that. confirmed: the spikes are pointing inwards. It's quite difficult to imagine what would be the use the other way around.>> Fantastic! So there we are. I'm not entirely sure what they're talking about (they could be talking about the new Stereolab packaging as far as I know), but I have a fair idea. So next time someone asks *that* particular question, I'll send them this, and let them work it out. God! It's nice to come home. Jobby Charriot wrote: <> Wasn't Lord Snooty's Christian name Anthony? I could be wrong, of course. Why the angelic struan would want to write a song about that little shit is beyond me... Snooty used to treat his 'pals' like pets, and you could see the anger and jealousy in their eyes, as the twat in the (top) hat pranced about his castle. 'Your day will come, Snooty', I used to growl, smudging out his newsprint face, with my thumb. 'You cannot deny the wishes of the people any longer.' Eventually, of course, his day did come. The stalinesque DC Thompson & son wiped all image and memory of Tony Snooty from the pages of the Beano. And replaced him with MC Techno, the right-on invisible flying ragga Animal Hospital Vet. Or something. Tsk. And now I think maybe my anger was misplaced. Can the inheritors of priviledge really be blamed for their fortune? It must be difficult to meet true friends when you're a lord- certainly, being called Snooty can't help. As I turn the pages of the new, glossy comic, I wonder; where do beano stars go to die? A tear drops onto the page, and sits, intact- a perfect dome on the page. The new paper won't soak up tears. Byebye seb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ya8102 at xxx.uk Fri Oct 9 12:37:17 1998 From: ya8102 at xxx.uk (yaz) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:37:17 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: mojave 3 In-Reply-To: <9809089078.AA907862465@mail.newtimes.com> Message-ID: im gomng to interview them soon, so if you want to send me any questions, bribes, chocolates... On Thu, 08 Oct 98 08:55:18 MST Jim Schmidt wrote: > > mojave 3's "out of tune" has now replaced B&S on my turntable...i > know...i know...this isn't really B&S related...but in a way, it > is...because mick cooke is involved (albeit on two tracks already > released on singles)...however, i haven't been so moved since the > recent B&S...and i don't think there is a mojave 3 list... > > it's simply fantastic, though clocking in at nine tunes (3 of which > had already been released), it's a short high...anyway, my request to > all you fans who may be going to one of the upcoming shows in the > uk...email me privately...i'm interested if anyone is taping the show > or if they're selling any "fan" stuff at the gigs...even just an email > to let me know how it was...i'd really appreciate it. > > i apologize to those who could care less about this posting...but if > you haven't heard it, it's simply beautiful...a bit drake, a bit > dylan...all halstead (along with the divine rachel goswell and > mysterious ian)...and don't forget mick's trumpet on two tracks! > > anyway, thanks for your tolerance. > jim. > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------------------- Y Arefin, Law 98 ya8102 at bristol.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Fri Oct 9 12:45:28 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:45:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: If you go to Sussex, be sure to wear cheese Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22289E6E@server1.HITEntertainment.com> As it's a quiet day for the list, I think I'll add my halfpennyworth (did anyone else think that there was a bizarre creature called an "apeth" when they were little? I got called a daft apeth more times than I care to remember. And I always got told off for using "that toner voice". It took many years and one extremely embarrassing incident before I realised that toner was not in this case an adjective). Is Archel really from Sussex (how weird. I just honestly wrote "success" instead. What can it mean)? There's something about her that screams San Francisco. Which brings me onto my next question. My mate in SF sent me a tape which had a song by some geezer called Alan Wiley (I think) on it, and I could swear I've seen that name mentioned on the list before. Can anyone tell me what he's all about? What else...my regular invitation to listees to pop along to *popstarz* in Holborn this evening if they get the chance - you'll get to see the none-more-glam Lady Penelope strutting his stuff, and if we can buy StayLuckyRory enough beers there's always the chance of seeing the nineties Peter Bonetti doing the groovy turkey on the dancefloor. And you don't want to miss that, believe me. Have we had the official line on live bootlegs from ver management yet? Unsurprisingly, I'd love to get some tasty cuts from various of the recent shows, but this is presumably even more illegal than the ongoing Tigermilk furore. Though I can't quite see a B&S live spectacular gracing the shelves in HMV (spit, apparently) for some time... God, I'm boring these days. Sorry to waste your time... LittleBlondOne xxx p.s. Cheese - Taleggio is just great, and they sell it in sainsbury's - but it has to be Parmesan, really, and I'll fight anyone who disagrees. The best present in the world (apart from Molly's, of course) would be to have one of those whole Parmesan wheels all to myself, mmm..... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 9806421C at xxx.uk Fri Oct 9 13:54:59 1998 From: 9806421C at xxx.uk (David Robert Collier) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:54:59 +0000 Subject: Sinister: a cheery wave from a stranded youngster Message-ID: <16A90E63BF0@lms.student.gla.ac.uk> On Thursday, 01 Oct 1998 14:59:3, Michaela Clarke said: <> well i've just moved to the glorious emerald city of dreams that is glasgow but i'm soooooooooo lost! any glasweigens know b+s places to go? clubs/pubs etc? anyone else at glasgow uni? Is the guy who came up to me in the hive and said he had an original tigermilk on the list?? anyone? anyone? davoo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bferneyhough at xxx.uk Fri Oct 9 12:08:10 1998 From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (Ben Ferneyhough) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:08:10 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk for sale. Message-ID: <199810091108.MAA02685@brookes.ac.uk> Hello everyone. Just to calm everyones fears from the off, I'm not selling copies of Tigermilk, but a genuine VINYL version. My mate Paul phoned me last night and as he knows I'm on this list, he asked me to offer his copy of Tigermilk to you all. As seems to be the case with most of these sales, he's doing like an auction type thing, with it closing on October 31st. Well, if you are excited by the prospect of owning your own living breathing Tigermilk, then mail Paul on (and he DIDN'T choose this address !!): dr_sex2000 at hotmail.com Hope you are all happy and having fun, Ben. __ _-==-=_,-. /--`' \_ at -@.--=\\_/`< ____ /= | \_| going going gone.... / `\ _/=== \___/ \___/ //\./=/~\====\ \ // / | ===: | ._/_,__|_ ==: __ \/ \\ \\`--| / \\ | \\:| /==:-\ \__/``\____/ | |--|==: \ \ ===\ :==:`-' _> \ ===\ /==/ /==\ | ===\__/--/ <=== \ / ====\ \\/ _`-- \/ === \/--' /______/_______/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Fri Oct 9 15:24:11 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 15:24:11 Subject: Sinister: Radio session photos Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981009152411.4357b916@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Hi all, I am sure you'd like to see some pictures of Belle&Sebastian made during the Black Session last monday. Follow me on the Bernard Lenoir Show website : http://www.radio-france.fr/inter/lenoir/frame.html Here we are! 1. Then click on "Les Black Sessions" (on the left). You will get the list of the black sessions for each year. 2. Click on 98/99 (on the bottom of the window). You'll get the list the recent black sessions : PJ harvey, B&S, and Baby Bird. 3. On the right side, you'll see small blue cameras : click on it to see the photos. If you have problems to find the photos, contact me. The photograph is Laurent Orseau. He loves black and white pictures :) If you want to see other pictures made during the black sessions, have a look on Laurent's homepage : http://lorseau.citeweb.net/isession.htm Cheers! Philippe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Fri Oct 9 14:26:55 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:26:55 +0100 () Subject: Sinister: you make me feel uncomfortable,and i like that,i need that In-Reply-To: <19981009105154.5296.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: > > >it was going to be Paper Boar, I know where the Summer goes and the > >Gate, not in any particular order. Dunno whether it's changed since > then, but that's the word on the street at the moment. > > Paper Boar? What a terrific idea. Reminds me of last weekend again, > when minibus games degenerated to 'Smiths songs with meat products in > them'. 'Miserable Pie' was my favourite. How about 'The boy with the Quorn in his side', a favourite with the vegetarians amongst us I'm sure. Sorry, sorry. I'm just in that sort of mood. Archel _____________________________________________________ > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Fri Oct 9 14:28:41 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:28:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I Love the smell of Frank Muir Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7BB4@COR-EXG1> Belligerent is just dandy. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From BOYBOUTOWN at xxx.com Fri Oct 9 16:13:59 1998 From: BOYBOUTOWN at xxx.com (BOYBOUTOWN at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:13:59 EDT Subject: Sinister: Elliott Smith in Motown Last Nite. Message-ID: <4d6019e8.361e2837@aol.com> i was not really a huge elliott smith fan before the show, but i was quite turned on to him tho when he played his set.my, a fantastic show. 450 tickets presold, 550 sold at the door. it made for a nice sold out evening. i guess elliott smith was buggered by the djing last nite and told him to stop playing the buzzcocks and wedding present songs , which, if i had sold out the magic stick, i would quit my bitching and be thankful. oh well. the man has paid his dues. let us all be happy. (props tgiven for the kinks songs played b4 the opening act, Quasi) one question...grant it, it is elliott smith . he's been around for awhile. ok , hes a pop genius. but, Where are all these people when it comes time to LOCAL shows? i know many of us just do not know many of our local bands.but dammit, people, there is talent out there. Re at dy Ste at dy Edd!e. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Augury7 at xxx.com Fri Oct 9 17:07:53 1998 From: Augury7 at xxx.com (Augury7 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:07:53 EDT Subject: Sinister: nyc tickets please Message-ID: <6aa8dddf.361e34d9@aol.com> hello, i was wondering if anyone had 2 extra tickets for either of the new york shows...you do not know how happy it would make me if i was able to go-- i'd proabaly cry even. maybe you are thinking 'if she wants to go so badly, why didn't she buy tickets when they went on sale?' well, i thought i was going to be overseas at the beginning of november and those plans didn't fully come together that's why i don't have any tickets. if anyone could help a poor soul, please e-mail me privately. love, susan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chigger88 at xxx.com Fri Oct 9 18:00:39 1998 From: chigger88 at xxx.com (Burt Reynolds) Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 10:00:39 PDT Subject: Sinister: Who placed the mystery ad? Message-ID: <19981009170039.20213.qmail@hotmail.com> In this week's personals: "BELLE&SEBASTIAN Popscene 10.01.98. Listen, for the last time, they don't wanna play your fey music! So just go home, Drinky, and dance by your lonesome. Or try going with girls for a change." Did one of our own place this ad? Did anyone go to P!O!O!scene last night for the B&S party? Frankly, Rachael ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Fri Oct 9 20:08:08 1998 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 21:08:08 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Covers Message-ID: <361E5F18.A54E1823@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Hi sinisters , this day i listened all the B&S's cd watching all the cover . My conclusion : the most beautiful cover is in "lazy line painter jane". The question for everyone is : for you? Another question : where can i found in Italy a place where i can buy looper cd??? cheers, Marco#7. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Fri Oct 9 20:52:33 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid Dossinger) Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 15:52:33 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Recent Athens show info, NC Sinisterines? Message-ID: <361E697F.6C587730@bigfoot.com> Hello foxes, in snow and out. I just thought I'd share the information that I got yesterday from the uncharacteristically kindly folks at the historic 40 Watt. But I would like to send out tons of hippie "thank you" vibes to the people who sent me ticket info, especially Roberta, who always seems to come through for me. She'll save my life one day, I don't doubt... Sweet Amy (she was really nice) at the 40 Watt told me that the folks at Wuxtry were dead wrong about being able to order tickets by credit-card (they like to lie at Wuxtry). They'll only sell out-of-town tickets by money order (and then they send the tickets to you). BUT, Amy was reluctant to even let me do it since "it was so close to the show". She also told me that they've sold about half of the tickets and they expect to be sold out well before the show. SO...if you're thinking of getting tickets via mail, you'd best call real soon (706-549-7871). As in, today or Monday. If you're close enough to Athens to drive there (if I couldn't get them by mail, I was going to take the 6 hour road trip), they're still selling them in exchange for C.A.S.H. at Wuxtry and Big Shot. By the way, I'm all kinds of up for an after-show meet up at one of the bars around town. Unless the show is on the 40 Watt's notoriously late shedule, which means they should be done around 2 am, and so bars may not be an option. But there's always the Grill. Good ol' Athens. I can't wait to get back. I noticed on the meet-up board that there are more than a few people coming from NC. Any other Tarheel listees? Why the hell aren't they playing at the Cat's Cradle if there are so many of us?! Next time... Could be sick at any time, Reid +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Sat Oct 10 00:10:31 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 00:10:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: We have lives. Message-ID: <199810092308.AAA20136@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> I just got back from the pub and thought that I'd see what stacks of useless emails I'd got from the list. The last one that I recieved was just before 9. Does this mean that all my fellow listees had switched off the comP!O!O!ters and gone down the pu, having had the same need as I to remove the weeks stresses with a swift pint or 7? Can't account for you Americans though, perhaps that it is just that you are as fat and lazy as we have stereotyped you. Not too much offence intended. Love Jake. ARGH, no match of the day tomorrow. Bugger. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Sat Oct 10 00:12:09 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 00:12:09 +0100 Subject: Sinister: We have lives. Message-ID: <199810092310.AAA20211@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> ---------- > From: kenny > To: sinister at majordomo.net > Subject: Sinister: We have lives. > Date: Saturday, October 10, 1998 12:10 AM > > > I just got back from the pub and thought that I'd see what stacks of > useless emails I'd got from the list. > > The last one that I recieved was just before 9. > Does this mean that all my fellow listees had switched off the > comP!O!O!ters and gone down the pu, having had the same need as I to remove > the weeks stresses with a swift pint or 7? > > Can't account for you Americans though, perhaps that it is just that you > are as fat and lazy as we have stereotyped you. Not too much offence > intended. > > Love Jake. > ARGH, no match of the day tomorrow. Bugger. > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TWidmer at xxx.com Sat Oct 10 01:03:40 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:03:40 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Take it like a man, baby if that's what you are Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF032BA37A@amerwksnt01.xil.com> Rachael wrote: "BELLE&SEBASTIAN Popscene 10.01.98. Listen, for the last time, they don't wanna play your fey music!" <> That was me - thought it was HIGH TIME someone put you namby pamby, kitten-hugging softies in your place. When you grow up and can handle the heavy stuff (typical Popobscene fare like the Primitives and Chapterhouse) fair enough, but until then, you've been warned, we are hardcore! YEAH! too right!! Of course I'm only joking. The ad was probably *targeted* at me... Jim Schmidt, you work for the Weekly, right? you must know who wrote it. Jake-kenny wrote, twice: <> Well you can hold it just there Mr-pub-going-man. I DO take offence in fact! No one calls me fat and gets away with it. Unless they do so on a computer, and live on the other side of the world. So consider yourself lucky, buddy. Doubly so that I can't be bothered to come up with anything good in response. Quote for the day: 1991 - Frank Layden, Utah Jazz president, on a former player: "I told him, 'Son, what is it with you? Is it ignorance or apathy?' He said, 'Coach, I don't know and I don't care." harhar While bored and attempting to look very busy at work today, I was surfing the net and came across San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown's secretary's homepage. Her name is Esther and she's at Esther.com. It's the funniest thing I've seen in a while, if you find such blatant self-aggrandizement humorous, and I do. Have a lovely weekend everyone! I'm off to see The Make-up. tata, Tara +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From csomeone at xxx.com Sat Oct 10 01:56:37 1998 From: csomeone at xxx.com (Cynthia Someone) Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 17:56:37 PDT Subject: Sinister: wehavelives Message-ID: <19981010005637.26160.qmail@hotmail.com> kenners has drunkenly incited me out of my fat lazy, bored state. My list of things good about America 1. Fred Astaire 2. chinese/japanese/indian/thai food. In SF, berkeley, etc. 3.1 Joshua Tree National Park, CA. It looks like Mars and you can sleep outside, warm as a kitten, no sleeping bag. 4. Sequoias. 5. Jimmy Stewart 6. In Watermelon Sugar by Richard Brautigan 7. My friend david's flower, this giant flower of felt and wire, in the middle of which one can sit and grab all the petals with attached strings so you can hide yourself in the center of a flower. Cynthia ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Sat Oct 10 07:41:30 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 23:41:30 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Drummer available for Tribute Tape Message-ID: <006401bdf419$046f3a80$cc9fcdcf@brier> Hi; If anyone is thinking of doing a song for this tribute tape and needs someone to lay down the drum track and/or vocals, I would like to do that, as I am a drummer/singer but know not of guitar. Also, do y'all think that the "State I Am In" from Tigermilk is kind of weak compared to the rest of the album, especially considering how great it came out for the EP? Why does the best song on the album sound the worst? Or is it that I'm comparing it to the more produced second version? My vote for best cover art: 3... 6... 9... -Brier (hoping I haven't angered anyone else besides you-know-who by saying you-know-what which I haven't done and didn't mean to strongly suggest that anyone else should do either, unless you're fed up and want to.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cc299 at xxx.ca Sat Oct 10 08:16:02 1998 From: cc299 at xxx.ca (Mary Ann de Leon) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 03:16:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Toronto gig-meet Message-ID: hi there! I'm organizing the gig-meet on Oct.24 ..kindly send me an email privately for details. allandl at hotmail.com cheers, Allan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Sat Oct 10 09:43:53 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 09:43:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ruffled feathers. Message-ID: <199810100842.JAA02382@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Well I seemed to have ruffled a few American feathers with comments that I made late of an evening and the influence of alcohol. But hey shit happens. No again just joking. I thought that I would try and explain where my, and that of many other of my compatriates, stereotypical view of Americans came from. If I were you I would blame Ricki, Jerry, Ophra et all. We vget these programmes sent over here and they seem to show those people on stage as being (delete where applicable) fat, lazy, transvestites who go out with strippers. I understand that these are the extremes but hey, if you are continually shown these images certain associations will eventually start to form. And my mate in America says that lots of people in New Jersey, are fat, so they must be. That is my reasoning, No offence intended again. Jake ps What is the American stereotype of us English. Is it all Hugh Grant, posh accents....... (No that is not a chance to email saying " we think you are all narrowed minded xenophobes like you") +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From j_rosenquist at xxx.com Sat Oct 10 12:39:13 1998 From: j_rosenquist at xxx.com (Joachim Rosenquist) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 12:39:13 CEST Subject: Sinister: You and your bloody oranges Message-ID: <19981010103914.15755.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi I am from Sweden and I guarantee you that "filmj�lk" (not "fil mjolk) is worth trying. It's quite sour but with very fresh taste. Me myself, I enjoy a bowl of it every morning before school. I have never tasted "kr�ftost" but "mjukost" is great on a sandwich. Joachim ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From karlek0 at xxx.com Sat Oct 10 12:14:07 1998 From: karlek0 at xxx.com (Matt Hayes) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 04:14:07 PDT Subject: Sinister: you make me feel uncomfortable,and i like that,i need that Message-ID: <19981010111407.7828.qmail@hotmail.com> >How about 'The boy with the Quorn in his side', a favourite with the >vegetarians amongst us I'm sure. when i was in sweden, i saw this graffiti that read and i apologise if the spelling is wrong "kott ar mord" which translates exactly to meat is murder. so i took a photo. around the corner from where i live in leeds, "love is just a miserable lie" is written on a wall in foot high letters. i have a photo of that too. b&s not included sorry interesting information not included either feel like death. hungover, hot computer lab, sweating like you would not believe. you probably know how it is. love matthew. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starrrbuck at xxx.com Sat Oct 10 11:52:10 1998 From: starrrbuck at xxx.com (wingless angel) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 18:52:10 +0800 Subject: Sinister: hello, i am new. Message-ID: <361F3C5A.25D015C2@geocities.com> hello. today i bought 'if you're feeling sinister' and 'the boy with the arab strap' and i like them very much. before i got them i had not heard a single note of belle and sebastian. i bought them on blind faith in email associates of mine who said they were great. so i thought, ok why not. i am glad i listened. :-) i think my fave song so far is 'seeing other people'. btw i live in australia, i am 19, and i like mailing lists. which is prolly why i am on so many. radiohead, unbelievable truth, etc etc. ummm are there any other aussie fans who can give advice as to where to get other b&s thingys from? (ep's etc). ok bye bye fiona -- the desk for dana fund: http://dscully.cjb.net x-index: http://xindex.cjb.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From karlek0 at xxx.com Sat Oct 10 12:32:30 1998 From: karlek0 at xxx.com (Matt Hayes) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 04:32:30 PDT Subject: Sinister: Drummer available for Tribute Tape Message-ID: <19981010113231.5455.qmail@hotmail.com> >Also, do y'all think that the "State I Am In" from Tigermilk is kind of weak >compared to the rest of the album, especially considering how great it came >out for the EP? Why does the best song on the album sound the worst? Or is >it that I'm comparing it to the more produced second version? >My vote for best cover art: 3... 6... 9... in my opinion the tigermilk version of "the state...." is better than the ep version even though it does sound a bit under produced. maybe it is a little weak compared to the rest. i agree about the artwork on 369 though. Joachim. sorry for my spelling. as you might have guessed, i am not exactly bilingual and my keyboard does not do those last three letters. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From superape79 at xxx.com Sat Oct 10 16:18:31 1998 From: superape79 at xxx.com (marcus) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 08:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981010151832.15051.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> unsubscribe sinister _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aaedward at xxx.edu Sat Oct 10 17:10:37 1998 From: aaedward at xxx.edu (blahblah) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 11:10:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Chicago Message-ID: hello all i'm hoping i'm sending this right - this is my second post and it's been a while since the first. is anyone going to / has tickets to the chicago show yet? i hope to order mine soon (if they are some left). and is anyone from montreal and plans on going to a Canadian show? i'm boring, and that's all i want to say. thankies - - angela - pager 206.1646 - aaedward at iupui.edu - +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Sat Oct 10 18:37:54 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 17:37:54 GMT Subject: Sinister: we are the world, we are the children Message-ID: <361f945a.26513324@post.demon.co.uk> Kenny wrote: >I thought that I would try and explain where my, and that of many other of >my compatriates, stereotypical view of Americans came from. Stop right there. How dare you presume to speak for other people. >If I were you I would blame Ricki, Jerry, Ophra et all. We vget these programmes >sent over here and they seem to show those people on stage as being (delete where >applicable) fat, lazy, transvestites who go out with strippers. If I were you, dear Americans, I wouldn't blame Ricki, Jerry, Ophra er all, I'd blame Kenny. My favourite programme is "Eurotrash", where we spend half an hour every week being treated to hilarious exposes of Italian porn stars, Germans who dress as babies for sexual kicks, and Swedes who make jewellry out of moose poo. At no point has it seemed to me that this is normal behaviour across the channel. That's because I am smart enough to know the difference between television and real life. There's been a lot of crap talked here recently about Americans, and while I have certain reservations about American government policy (I have certain reservations about British government policy too), I'd suggest that those responsible for this patronising "I don't like the rest of your people, but you're OK" attitude grow up, or shut the fuck up. >And my mate in America says that lots of people in New Jersey, are fat, so >they must be. That is my reasoning, No offence intended again. Lots taken. Tag +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From larry at xxx.com Sat Oct 10 18:49:41 1998 From: larry at xxx.com (larry at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 13:49:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: bollocks Message-ID: <199810101749.NAA11658@smtp.interlog.com> quoth the Duke: >Anyone who doesn't like mary lou lord and who'd like a giggle is >advised to take a few minutes and go read Everett True's humorous >assault in his 'Hugs and Kisses' article on Tangents. in which ET writes: >>She didn't even write most of her "heartfelt" songs on her major label >>debut album Got No Shadow, preferring instead-quite sensibly-to leave that >>onerous duty to mentor and idol, Englishman Nick Saloman (from pastel >>folk-rockers The Beavis Frond) ^^^^^^^ Huh huh...he said "folk"... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tangent at xxx.net Sat Oct 10 18:32:44 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 18:32:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: slow-ish grafitti References: <19981010111407.7828.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <361F9A3C.58168C32@lineone.net> Matt Hayes wrote: > when i was in sweden, i saw this graffiti that read and i apologise if > the spelling is wrong "kott ar mord" which translates exactly to meat is > murder. when i was younger and more foolish i sprayed 'meat is murder' on the sidewalk by the railway station that i used to travel to and fro to Glasgow from. (sorry about the structure of that sentence). Actually it was me and the duchess, and apparantly i was a bit drunk. Later the duchess and her mother walked past it and her mom said something like 'oooh, you'd have liked the person who did that!' Little did she know... i think i used the same blue paint with which i sprayed a large dolphin on the side of my art folio. it was the same dolphin from the sleeve of the first orange Juice LP. Years later, someone called isobel sang a song from that album at a show in Manchester. Isn't it wonderful how we can make our stories connect? even later i painted 'boredom or Fire Raisers, you can't have both' on a beach shelter, and then years later someone else burnt it down. The slogan was swiped from one that the Edinburgh group Fire Engines used to use, and the lead singer from Fire Engines was Davey henderson. The drunk Glasgow Central Station poet who supported B&S at the Union Chapel made a reference to a Davey Henderson, although it remains unclear as to whether it was the same person. seb said some lovely things, and on top of it all clearly has a penchant for using references to Mr Rowland in his subject lines. Top marks to him... As for the mans career, erm, well he was at a Vic Godard show recently, but goodness knows if he's actually being allowed to make records again. And seb, you are welcome to come and film me with your super 8 any time. Miller man suggested i meant Ash Ra Temple, but in fact i did mean Hash Jar Tempo, this being a collaboration between Bardo Pond and the sublime Roy Montgomery. Not quite up to the Ash Ra level, but very fine nevertheless. If you like extended guitary washy noodlings, as i indeed do up to a point. I'm sure if Tim were here he'd be telling me i'm being a fool and would entreat you all to ignore my recommendations on this score. Such is life. i can't think of anyting else to say really, so i'm off to watch John Noakes. Possibly. keep the faith, the duke -- 'all of our dreams are dying of overdoses' Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Sat Oct 10 19:59:05 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 19:59:05 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Correct me if I'm wrong, but... In-Reply-To: <006401bdf419$046f3a80$cc9fcdcf@brier> Message-ID: On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Brier Random wrote: > Also, do y'all think that the "State I Am In" from Tigermilk is kind of weak > compared to the rest of the album, especially considering how great it came > out for the EP? Why does the best song on the album sound the worst? Or is > it that I'm comparing it to the more produced second version? Erm, the songs on the DOW EP are actually older than those on Tigermilk, and only feature half the current band and a load of session musos. The version of "The State I Am In" on the EP is the demo for the finished version which appears on Tigermilk, which presumably is more produced. Oh, and I think the 369 artwork is great if only because it is so blatantly ripped off a Smiths album cover (Rank). Right, I'm not really a sad bastard who spends their Saturday evening in front of the computer, so to prove it I'm off to a party. With lots of free booze. I wouldn't normally mention it, as I'm sure you don't really care, if it wasn't for the discovery I made in the pub a few nights ago that one of the blokes who is living just down the corridor from me this year, and who will also be at the party, is apparently a rather good friend of the Duke. Small world eh? Big Stu PS Why is it whenever I go out drinking, I always end up with A Guinness stain on my trousers, even when I haven't been drinking the stuff? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Sat Oct 10 20:17:47 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 15:17:47 EDT Subject: Sinister: You can stick Bob Geldof up your arse! Message-ID: <56f1273b.361fb2db@aol.com> Hello kids, What a long, tiring filthy city day that was. I spent the afternoon protesting outside Capital Radio, but it wasn't cathartic. I thought after a good scream I'd feel better, but I just feel trampled. I feel as if I've been shouting against a hurricane. What's the fucking point, eh? Some people are on top, others aren't. We're not put here to fight battles- just to contain the losses. Jake wrote: lots of opinions that made lots of people shout at him. Well, that's probably all over, so I won't comment. But it does raise the question; what do you americans do instead of going to the pub? I mean, you have to be over 21 generally to buy booze, and even then, there aren't any pubs as such...I can't comprehend a world without pubs. I don't think that makes us brits (ugh! nasty word) steaming alkies. The pub is essential whether you drink or not. It's a second home. It's comfy, and lovely, and a bit knackered, but still home.Just think- It's pissing with rain, and you're clutching your shopping, and you've just filled your boots with oily water, and suddenly an old friend appears on the horizon- windows steamed up and lit up brightly, sending woozy reflections spilling over the wet pavement....magic. Mind you, you don't have pints either, do you? Or bitter? Pah! No wonder so many americans appear on Ricki Lake- I think I'd be pretty fucked up too. << Also, do y'all think that the "State I Am In" from Tigermilk is kind of weak compared to the rest of the album, especially considering how great it came out for the EP? >> Wow! You're the first person I've *ever* heard say this. You're entirely wrong, as it happens. :-) The State I'm in, the Tigerrrrmilk version, is soft, tender, chiming, layered, beautifully arranged, with guitars that make me curl into a ball everytime I hear them. It's achingly beautiful. I can't think of anything as good as this version of this song, ever.It is quite simply, the most beautiful song of all time. (IMHFO) The Dog on Wheels version sounds like a passionless dirge, with flat, naked production. It sounds like it was performed in a workman like way by crappy session musos.. Because it was.Save for the boy stuart, Belle and Sebastian were not in the building on that occasion, as it says in the sleeve notes. Mind you, why am I posting this? I'm not going to change your mind, and I don't much care if I do either. I couldn't give a fuck to be quite honest, and I'm sure none of you could either. Why am I still doing this? seb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 0291942a01 at xxx.es Sat Oct 10 20:26:17 1998 From: 0291942a01 at xxx.es (Jordi Trenzano Vilar) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 20:26:17 +-100 Subject: Sinister: Belle?Zine Message-ID: <01BDF496.96A1CDA0@Abonado-195-53-46-194.cat.es> Spanish B&S Zine requires your help. I would thank anything that you would send me, pictures, reviews, articles, poetry, anything....... Write: Jordi Trenzano i Vilar FANZINE "Segundos de Luz" 0291942a01 at abonados.cplus.es +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From klannert at xxx.com Sat Oct 10 19:58:21 1998 From: klannert at xxx.com (kerry lannert) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 11:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: valley advocate TBWTAS review Message-ID: <19981010185821.29046.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> the valley advocate here in western mass has a review of twattybus in this week's issue. here it is (please pardon my typing errors): Cry With These Words: belle and sebastian will break your heart if given the chance by joshua westlund belle and sebastain are glasgow's masters of inconcspicuous chic -- that unassuming, delicate, obsessively self-conscious, white middle-class indie rock art of looking cool whie trying not to look like you're trying to look cool. their songs all sound the same, regretlessly, even gleefully: cheery major chords (strummed ever so gently) lope about, breezy moogs gurlge and chirp, bagpipes hum majestic melodies, and other obscure, barely audible instruments meander as they please, adding slight minimal flourishes over main singer/songwriter sturat murdoch's creamy croon. it's ever so pastoral, chip[per and catchy -- "good vibrations" set in scotland's vibrant, verdant highlands. since releasing their debut, tigermilk, belle and sebastian hve become avatars of indie rock's most hallowed tradition: playing hard to get. tigermilk was limited to 500 vinyl copies, and the band has since released several other similarly obsucre EPs and singles -- prompting fans to hoard, obsess and spend exorbitant amounts of cash (an original copy of tigermilk recently sold for about $1,000 at an auction). and belle and sebastian not only demand devotion from their fans, they're also smugly self-awre of their talkent that they can't help but point it out in their songs while winking and smirking about their deliberate marginality. "nobody writes them like they used to -- so it may as well be me," murdoch observes on "get ma way from here, i'm dying" from last year's spellbinding if yo'ure feeling sinister, which marks the beginning of murdoch's obsession with the idea that fame is the same thing as heartbreak. joking about the band's photogeneity and catchy tunes, he observes, "we don't stand a chance" of making it. but the joke, of course, is that they do and will -- and murdoch knows it. so after making a vaguely embarrassing confession ("i always cry at endings") he goes on to do battle with the well-worn cliche about ens and swords, concluding, "i could kill you, sure, but i could only make you cry with these words." only make you cry? only? it's belle and sebastian's most powerful moment. the punning and mok self-effacement are brilliant, sure, but the sentiment is what makes the song a killer. it's a loe song about love songs, yet it never gets mired in its own cleverness. unless you're a goon or a chump, your tears should be welling up -- despite not having a bloody clue what it is you should be crying about. the boy with the arab strap continues murdoch's evasive courtship with fame. when murdoch sings about a brilliant painter (reprising a character from an earlier single) who suffers from a stroke at the age of 24 (presumably aused by the stress of her newfound fame), it's hard not to see the song as somehow about the band itself. murdoch notes that "her paintings are a sham, and they're going for . . ." -- what else? -- "a grand." then he phrases a rhetorical question like a passive/aggressive threat: "when the dealers come to view do they ever see the real you?" of course they don't. the sham murdoch exposes here is that his songs don't show himself; he inists that he can write confessional songs while mainaining his privacy. faced with the weight of pop history, murdoch's biggest conundrum seems to be that he can't decide whether to be ironic or sincere. the forefathers of wimp rock -- the beach boys, the beatles, nick drake -- wrote stark, heartfelt tunes. but murdoch's most perplexing achievement is how he writes off the irony vs. sicerity debate altogether, claiming that wry wit and heartfelt self-expression can work in symbiosis. "chickfactor" references a hipster indie pop 'zine of the same name, telling the story of a musician who falls in love with a woman who interview shim. while there's plenty of tabloid sensationalism for the indie snobs (who did the chickfactor interview? was there really a romance? if not, will there be?), the silly intrascene schtick doesn't overshadow the song's gloomy hypothesis about superficiality and love. "seymour stein" treats a missed dinner date with sire records' head honcho as a way to give the middle finger to The Man whle simultaneaously brooding obout love gonw wrong. for murdoch and his crew, fame's calling is insignificant when compared to the power of love. while arab strap is, along with elliott smith's XO, one of the finest pop releases of 1998, it's still not the masterpiece it could have been. the band's turn toward -- gasp! -- seriousness (witnessed in the rather straight-ahead pastoral rambles of "a summer wasting," "ease your feet into the sea" and "simple thigs") is also a turn toward the mundane; the aformentioned tunes should have been b-sides. but what's most frustrating about arab strap is that murdoch deliberately left some of his best songs of the record. but i quibble. these glorious songs will glady break your heart if you give them the attention they demand -- and deserve. ouch. now my hands hurt. oh well. hope you enjoy it. -kerry _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Sat Oct 10 22:10:24 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 22:10:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Shall we go to the common swings? Wa-HEY! In-Reply-To: <361F9A3C.58168C32@lineone.net> Message-ID: 'ello sailors.... The guy who says he is the Duke of Harringay (SOFT OR HARD G???) but I bet he's really only the court jester wrote: >The >slogan was swiped from one that the Edinburgh group Fire Engines used to >use, and the lead singer from Fire Engines was Davey henderson. The >drunk Glasgow Central Station poet who supported B&S at the Union Chapel >made a reference to a Davey Henderson, although it remains unclear as to >whether it was the same person. Ahem. Would anyone think that some people on this list ever get a wee bit anal about B&S? I do!! I mean, I get anal about B&S, I only realized that when I made MediaStudiesChris a mix tape of Da Belles, and he was saying he liked Loneliness of a middle distance runner, and asked where it came from, I said, I don't knw, does it have Stuart, really quietly just at the end sayin 'guess thats another fade then' on it?? I then retreated out of my own arse.... I didn't know the Fire Engines were from Edinburgh!! Tim (ooh Tim how do I miss thee!) taped me a Fire Engines song, and it is very good indeed. Howevere I cannot find their records anywhere. Then again, up untill I went to see Honey so we could slam dunk da funk (um, well 5IVE AREN'T A BAD THING!!! Their new single rocks and I don't care if you all laugh at me 'cos you're only internet people anyway who don't even care!!!) I had never seen any Jasmine Minks records and now one cannot move for the buggers. I think there was 3 in Skellies! That OH SO FUNKY Seb wrote: > >You bastards. >I've been trying really hard all day not to post to the list, but then the >standards of the posts today...jesus. Thanks Seb. No really, I'm so glad you made a 'good' post and cheered everyone up. I mean, you haven't pissed anyone off in your 'gosh! the list really *is* crap isn't it, best go save it!' ways that are sadly enough being common these days, I mean, anything but that. Are you taking Gods name in vain? God gave us life - HAVE A BANAAAANA!!! Honestly! Were you taking the piss with that first statement?! Sebbers then wrote: >lalalalalalala self >lalalalalalala shelf >lalalalalalala orange. >lalalalalalala oh. ......bollocks. lalalalalalalalalala FUCK! lalalalalalalalalala FUCK! lalalalalalalalalala FUCK! He's a Hoot, He's in a Suit, Adrian Evans wrote : >Alternatively Stuart, you could go to your nearest HMV (stop spitting at >me you lot) and look in their sale boxes (if the sales still on), and >I'll think you'll find there are several northern-soul compilations for >about £5 each. *ahem*!! 1.99 I'll have you know....and they're CRAP!! If they are The Best of Northern Soul ones DO NOT GET!!! They are sheer wank! If that's Northern Soul, it's crap! Then again my experience of that luverly music has been, um, the club after the Leeds gig. Heh heh!! I MOSH in Preston 'cha!!!! I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Candarel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MWaggner at xxx.com Sat Oct 10 22:34:12 1998 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 17:34:12 EDT Subject: Sinister: we are the world, we are the children Message-ID: <74a3c5af.361fd2d4@aol.com> In a message dated 98-10-10 13:50:28 EDT, you write: > > >And my mate in America says that lots of people in New Jersey, are fat, so > >they must be. That is my reasoning, No offence intended again. > > Lots taken. Bravo, Tag.... I was really too incensed to reply this morning. Just when I get to thinking the world might have grown up some, I always hear this sort of thing. Why don't we all just judge people by how they look, or where they're from -- with no regard to their feelings, their interests, their value as human beings... What, we fucking burn New Jersey because it might have fat people living there? Is that some new fangled "final solution" to some idiot's prejudice? Why is it acceptible to go after people who are overweight? Would you say "Oh, there are lots of black people in such and such a place"? No, probably not. Yet you feel quite justified in saying this? Someone recently said to me that going after heavy people is the last acceptable prejudice -- I had never looked at it, but you know, I see it's true now that it was pointed out to me. And it's a sick sick way to be... look at how this attitude drives girls to starve themselves and vomit themselves to the point of death because the world has this warped vision of value based on willowy looks. Imagine the wonderful people who are driven to insecurity and self-loathing because they know this is how people look at them. Imagine how you limit your own circle of friends by overlooking people based on looks. Who can afford this sort of thing? Oh, rant over.... And hey, I promise not to think the UK is peopled with shallow idiots who drink too much, based on Kenny's ill-begotten attitude. Nor to picture you as Benny Hill, pre-verbal creatures with televisions in your stomachs, people who walk silly, or resemble Margaret Thatcher in any way whatsoever -- and I don't think of you as sharing your future king's desire to be a feminine hygiene product either. --michele --michele +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jgockley at xxx.edu Sat Oct 10 22:38:00 1998 From: jgockley at xxx.edu (Jessica Gockley) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 17:38:00 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Shall we go to the common swings? Wa-HEY! In-Reply-To: References: <361F9A3C.58168C32@lineone.net> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981010173800.00696fec@beacon.eastern.edu> Fluffy Sarah said: >Ahem. Would anyone think that some people on this list ever get a wee >bit anal about B&S? I do!! I mean, I get anal about B&S, I only realized >that when I made MediaStudiesChris a mix tape of Da Belles, and he was >saying he liked Loneliness of a middle distance runner, and asked where >it came from, I said, I don't knw, does it have Stuart, really quietly >just at the end sayin 'guess thats another fade then' on it?? People mention this song "Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner" quite frequently around these parts, and it makes me sad that i have no idea what they're talking about. Actually, a lot of other song titles bounce around here which are altogether unknown to me, too. So, um, i was wondering if i could take this opportunity to see whether there is anyone on this list who has songs not appearing on any of the 3 albums or EPs or the BBC sessions who would be willing to make a tape for a lonely little American girl? The terrible bit of it, though, is that i don't have a lot to offer in return, other than my undying gratitude. However, if there are any Americans (i don't mean to be exclusive, but i'm too poor to afford overseas postage these days) on the list who are even less fortunate than i and have not yet even heard Tigermilk or the BBC sessions, i would be happy to tape those and pass them along to you. I know i was too shy for a long time to ask the list if anyone could make me a tape, so if you find yourself in a similar predicament, just ask me. On a completely unrelated note, i bought a new fish a few weeks ago (my goldfish, Astrophel and Stella, having survived my paltry efforts at fish-maintenance for over a year now, gave me faith in my ability to care for yet another fish). He is a gorgeous scarlet-red betta whose fins suddenly turn transparent at the tips. It makes me smile to watch him. I named him Sebastian. Love, Jess Foxinasnow "You're always looking for a sign, but boy you blow it every time. You hear a voice begin to speak; you ignore it and go softly to sleep" - Belle & Sebastian Jessica Gockley | Box 326 Eastern College | 1300 Eagle Road | St Davids, PA 19087 | 610-225-5403 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ihamilt at xxx.com Sat Oct 10 22:50:21 1998 From: Ihamilt at xxx.com (Ihamilt at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 17:50:21 EDT Subject: Sinister: Fat Is as Fat Does ( with apologies to the Butcher Boy) Message-ID: nd my mate in America says that lots of people in New Jersey, are fat, so > >they must be. That is my reasoning, No offence intended again. Ok - Im a huge Belle and Sebastian fan inevery sense of the word. it appears that a couple of people have a problem with this. I have a couple of points to make. 1. Being fat does not equal stupid. Stereotyping people however does. 2. Being fat does not equal lazy. if that was the case i wouldnt have hauled my carcass round the country to see Belle and Sebastian 4 times recently. 3. America does indeed have lots of stupid people. Then again so does Britian. Petty nationalistic assumption s however are always stupid. Im off to eat all the pies ( quiche pies, i am a vegetarian you know) Bye Iain +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From conform at xxx.com Sat Oct 10 23:43:21 1998 From: conform at xxx.com (Seamus Campbell) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 15:43:21 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Take it like a man, baby if that's what you are Message-ID: <01FF24001403D011AD7B00A024BC53C53BF2E9@cane.deming.com> if anyone sees the make-up in berkeley tonight, i'm curious what you think of the opening band "casiotone for the pinfully alone" -- they (he) are (is) a low-fi pop phenomenon that i discovered last week during a trip to san francisco. it's all tiny little keyboards that you'd expect to see at the goodwill for $5 and he puts them to terribly good use. vocals are vaguely reminescent of arab strap in a quiet half-spoken/half-sung story sort of way. but for you twee kids, don't worry, there are no mentions of cocks anywhere. lyrical content is more along the lines of holding hands and feeling sad. which a lot of people are sick of, but it's so heartfelt that i can't help but love it. c.f.t.p.a. has a 7" on train bridge recordings that you can probably find at indie stores in the bay area or at his shows. or e-mail me if you want the address... seamus > -----Original Message----- > From: Tara Widmer [SMTP:TWidmer at xxx.com] > Sent: Friday, October 09, 1998 5:04 PM > To: sinister at majordomo.net > Subject: Sinister: Take it like a man, baby if that's what you > are > > > Have a lovely weekend everyone! I'm off to see The Make-up. > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nmg20 at xxx.uk Sun Oct 11 00:39:54 1998 From: nmg20 at xxx.uk (Nick Grundy) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 00:39:54 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: we are the world, we are the children In-Reply-To: <361f945a.26513324@post.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Sat, 10 Oct 1998, Robert McTaggart wrote: > Stop right there. How dare you presume to speak for other people. > > My favourite programme is "Eurotrash", where we I think I must be alone in finding someone whose *favourite* TV programme is Eurotrash lecturing people on prejudice amusing. Still, never mind, eh. Nick. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nmg20 at xxx.uk Sun Oct 11 00:50:13 1998 From: nmg20 at xxx.uk (Nick Grundy) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 00:50:13 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: we are the world, we are the children In-Reply-To: <74a3c5af.361fd2d4@aol.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 MWaggner at aol.com wrote: > > >And my mate in America says that lots of people in New Jersey, are fat, so > > >they must be. That is my reasoning, No offence intended again. > > > > Lots taken. > > Bravo, Tag.... I was really too incensed to reply this morning. Just when I > get to thinking the world might have grown up some, I always hear this sort of > thing. Blimey! Sense of humour-failure a -rama! They were joking! It's obvious! And even if they weren't, it's all the more amusing because they'd have had to have been so incredibly stupid *not* to have been joking! hugs & kisses, Nick. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Sun Oct 11 01:25:50 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 01:25:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: we are the world, we are the children Message-ID: <199810110051.BAA07973@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Hi Nick, I was the one who made the comments in the first place, and I am relived that there is one person to have taken my comments as intended. As a JOKE. It got one hell of a reaction though. Next time i'll shut up. Cheers Jake (aka Kenny) ---------- > From: Nick Grundy > To: sinister at majordomo.net > Subject: Re: Sinister: we are the world, we are the children > Date: Sunday, October 11, 1998 12:50 AM > > > On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 MWaggner at aol.com wrote: > > > > >And my mate in America says that lots of people in New Jersey, are fat, so > > > >they must be. That is my reasoning, No offence intended again. > > > > > > Lots taken. > > > > Bravo, Tag.... I was really too incensed to reply this morning. Just when I > > get to thinking the world might have grown up some, I always hear this sort of > > thing. > > Blimey! Sense of humour-failure a -rama! > They were joking! It's obvious! And even if they weren't, it's all the > more amusing because they'd have had to have been so incredibly stupid > *not* to have been joking! > > hugs & kisses, > Nick. > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From suzsch at xxx.net Sun Oct 11 02:26:23 1998 From: suzsch at xxx.net (Suzanne Schroeder) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 20:26:23 -0500 Subject: Sinister: dull... Message-ID: <199810110121.UAA21134@smtp1.mailsrvcs.net> > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 09:43:53 +0100 > From: "kenny" > Subject: Sinister: Ruffled feathers. > ps What is the American stereotype of us English. Is it all Hugh Grant, > posh accents....... Or Rowan Atkinson. Plain looking, appearing like they hadn't eaten in a week, and very snooty with a stiff upper lip. A bunch of cockneys. Tea drinkers playing croquet on the lawn. Overly wealthy aristocrats. Princess Diana. Tiny Tim and Ebeneezer Scrooge Overly polite pushovers who act so stiffly and formal they can't budge sitting at dinner parties and waltzing to classical music.. Wimbledon fanatics who consistantly have no one to root for. Millions I can think of. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SpaceboyUK at xxx.com Sun Oct 11 05:29:39 1998 From: SpaceboyUK at xxx.com (SpaceboyUK at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 00:29:39 EDT Subject: Sinister: Isobel's acoustic session,release,etc. Message-ID: is there any new information on the rumoured release of Isobel's acoustic session? and also-i have Real Audio,but it wouldn't let me hear the songs at the treehouse. any help,hints,either or,etc.? thank you. -a.james +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Sun Oct 11 06:49:31 1998 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 01:49:31 EDT Subject: Sinister: Chicago Message-ID: <9bf97c27.362046eb@aol.com> Response to Angela: <> Why yes, of course. Maybe some of the mid-westerners will be meeting up before or after?? Pete +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vegasbaby at xxx.com Sun Oct 11 11:20:27 1998 From: vegasbaby at xxx.com (Courtney Knopf) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 03:20:27 PDT Subject: Sinister: i'd like some help too please Message-ID: <19981011102027.7770.qmail@hotmail.com> I must echo the cries of Jess Foxinasnow and ask if anyone would want to dub me a tape with non album/ep songs like Pocketbook Angel, Lonliness of the Middle Distance Runner and Wrong Love. any means to this end will be VERY VERY much appreciated. I haven't lots to trade, but i'm willing to pay for blanks and postage. please email me if you're willing to help out. thanks! Oh, and everyone must go see "The Impostors." it's a HOOT. ~Courtney The Sultraness of Swing "But I've never killed anyone before!" "Well you'll have to fucking learn!" "It isn't hard." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tangent at xxx.net Sun Oct 11 11:35:36 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 11:35:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: this is not the list for senseless slagging References: Message-ID: <362089F8.144F9642@lineone.net> or maybe it is, i dunno, but in honey's absence, can i just remind everyone that this IS meant to be a place of love and magic and wonder, and oooh, all those things. it seems to me that people have forgotten something recently, and that is, well, just how listening to Belle & Sebastian can make you FEEl. Go on, dig out that record, that Cd, that EP, that tape, and listen and remember... the MAGIC of it all, the sheer inescapable delirium of Pop. then you might realise that being a stupid twat and boring everyone else on the list with your xenophobic rants and raves and/or your assumptions on jokery or not is just, oooh, not really very welcome at all very much. one public response to another obvious public moment of idiocy is fine, but it doesn't have to become an ongoing list debate. you want to argue about whether kenny was joking or not, and whether that joke was funny, and if so or not, why or why not, then, erm, take it private. seems to me anyway that this list gives us a chance to disprove ALL that nationalist stereotype bollocks and that in the main, it does just that. you can't force someone to learn, after all, only encourage them. keep the faith kids, the duke -- 'all of our dreams are dying of overdoses' Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sburon at xxx.fr Sun Oct 11 12:16:22 1998 From: sburon at xxx.fr (Stephane Buron) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 13:16:22 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Loneliness Message-ID: <36209384.5EC7@club-internet.fr> Hi list... I dont want to add anything to the recent controversies (in fact, I dont read all the messages and i dont remember what you're talking about...). Just wanted to say a few words about "The Loneliness of a Mid-Distance Runner". Jessica's asked us what it is about. Well, it's very diffucult to describe this song (especially for me, with my bad english). The only thing I could say is this is ace, definitely (I know, it's not much, sorry...). I heard it twice : the first time was in Manchester and the second in Nottingham. And to tell you the truth it seems to be one of the best B&S songs ever... In Nottingham (correct me if I'm wrong), Stuart Murdoch dedicated this song to Allan Sillitoe, the author of "The Loneliness of a Long Distance Runner". A.S. lived in Nottingham actually and he studied at the Marcus Garvey College (where the gig took place). Once again, correct me if I'm mistaking (duke : is it what Stuart said?). Anyway, it seems to make sense : Allan Sillitoe is sometimes described as the English Salinger, and I must confess the character described in his novel (short story I should say) is rather close to Holden from "Catcher in the Rye"... and close to many characters in B&S songs... Well, that's it, Take care, Stéphane -- Visitez le Tweeclub sur http://www.chez.com/tweeclub "I had a job in an office once, I never talked to anyone..." Belle and Sebastian, Pocketbook Angel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Sun Oct 11 13:31:39 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 13:31:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: "There's a werewolf in Birkenhead Park." In-Reply-To: <199810110051.BAA26530@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000001bdf513$18267840$3c0f93c3@whelan> Midway through her attempt on the world tortoise frisking record the Fluffyone wrote.... > >The > >slogan was swiped from one that the Edinburgh group Fire Engines used to > >use, and the lead singer from Fire Engines was Davey henderson. The > >drunk Glasgow Central Station poet who supported B&S at the Union Chapel > >made a reference to a Davey Henderson, although it remains unclear as to > >whether it was the same person. > > Ahem. Would anyone think that some people on this list ever get a wee > bit anal about B&S? I do!! I mean, I get anal about B&S, I only realized > that when I made MediaStudiesChris a mix tape of Da Belles, and he was > saying he liked Loneliness of a middle distance runner, and asked where > it came from, I said, I don't knw, does it have Stuart, really quietly > just at the end sayin 'guess thats another fade then' on it?? I then > retreated out of my own arse.... Oh I think you can be forgiven for that. Being the low key sods that they are and not having seen them live.... yet, I wouldn't know one member of B&S from the next. So merely knowing what each individual member looks like (oooh err) is anal to me. Before you all comment on it, yes I am ashamed that i've not taken the time to see the band live yet, I have good excuses though. > I didn't know the Fire Engines were > from Edinburgh!! Tim (ooh Tim how do I miss thee!) taped me a Fire > Engines song, and it is very good indeed. Howevere I cannot find their > records anywhere. You can find a few in Hairys in Liverpool. In fact they used to have loads of the postcard singles, but they'd had a move around last time I went in and I can't find anything now. > Then again, up untill I went to see Honey so we could > slam dunk da funk (um, well 5IVE AREN'T A BAD THING!!! Their new single > rocks and I don't care if you all laugh at me 'cos you're only internet > people anyway who don't even care!!!) I had never seen any Jasmine Minks > records and now one cannot move for the buggers. I think there was 3 in > Skellies! There's two at least, bloody pricey though. > Sebbers then wrote: > > >lalalalalalala self > >lalalalalalala shelf > >lalalalalalala orange. > >lalalalalalala oh. ......bollocks. > > lalalalalalalalalala FUCK! > lalalalalalalalalala FUCK! > lalalalalalalalalala FUCK! lalala lalala lalala, lalala lalala lalala, lala lala lala la la laaaaaaaaa. lalalalalalalalalalalala FUCK! > He's a Hoot, He's in a Suit, Adrian Evans wrote : > > >Alternatively Stuart, you could go to your nearest HMV (stop spitting at > >me you lot) and look in their sale boxes (if the sales still on), and > >I'll think you'll find there are several northern-soul compilations for > >about £5 each. > > *ahem*!! 1.99 I'll have you know....and they're CRAP!! If they are The > Best of Northern Soul ones DO NOT GET!!! They are sheer wank! If that's > Northern Soul, it's crap! Then again my experience of that luverly music > has been, um, the club after the Leeds gig. Heh heh!! I MOSH in Preston > 'cha!!!! Soul Survivors looks good, i've been after it for donkeys, but there's always something more important to get. Oh well, I suppose the one you got had to be 1.99 for a reason. Jess foxinthesnow wrote.... > Fluffy Sarah said: > >Ahem. Would anyone think that some people on this list ever get a wee > >bit anal about B&S? I do!! I mean, I get anal about B&S, I only realized > >that when I made MediaStudiesChris a mix tape of Da Belles, and he was > >saying he liked Loneliness of a middle distance runner, and asked where > >it came from, I said, I don't knw, does it have Stuart, really quietly > >just at the end sayin 'guess thats another fade then' on it?? > > People mention this song "Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner" quite > frequently around these parts, and it makes me sad that i have no idea what > they're talking about. It's my fave B&S song by a country mile, it's fantastic and why the hell has it not been released yet, it's a crime. In days when boy/girl bands dominate our phoney chart, LOTMDR could come along and crush the teenybopping little bastards to hell. Anyone fancy starting a campaign to have it released...... well it worked for Deirdre Rachid didn't it ?. byyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeee Gary +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jhatton at xxx.net Sun Oct 11 13:57:07 1998 From: jhatton at xxx.net (Joshua Hatton) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 08:57:07 -0400 Subject: Sinister: nyc, nov.2nd, please help!!!! Message-ID: <3620AB23.7D09@snet.net> you are now reading a message from a person who is in dire need of 3 to 4 tickets to the nov. 2nd show in nyc. could anyone please help?!?!?! think of it as your good deed for the day. i've been searching high and low for some tickets, but at every lead...a dead end. i will forever be grateful to you. thank you for your time. sincerely, joshua +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nikolas.montaldi at xxx.uk Sun Oct 11 15:15:59 1998 From: nikolas.montaldi at xxx.uk (nikolas montaldi) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:15:59 +0100 Subject: Sinister: RE:loneliness Message-ID: <7129089ECA26D211AA6600805FA774BCB6F130@airport.unn.ac.uk> Hi list, Stephane wrote on "Loneliness of a mid-distance runner" and Alan Sillitoe's original short story,can I just ad that it was also made into an absolutely stunning black and white film by Tony Richardson in 1962.The film is much in the spirit of French neo realism and earlier English kitchen sink dramas,and featured the young Tom Courtenay(he has become one of my all time favefourites since seeing the film a few years back). Courtenay turns up again in a similar film of that time,"Billy Liar",which was a source of inspiration for many Smiths/Morrissey songs and was sampled by retro fopsters Saint Etienne .It is very much like a B&S song,as it is about a hopeless day dreamer,his various terryfying fiancees,his drab day job at an under takers and his one chance of escaping to London with Julie Christie. Anyone who hasn't read Sillitoe's stories or seen the two films should do so as soon as possible,they are wonderfully melancholic and just the right thing to curl up with on a rainy Sunday... Bye everyone, Nik +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mphintz at xxx.com Sun Oct 11 15:35:10 1998 From: Mphintz at xxx.com (Mphintz at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 10:35:10 EDT Subject: Sinister: mummy, don't forget the honey Message-ID: <253cf1f9.3620c21e@aol.com> I hope everyone has taken a few minutes to write a get-well note to Honey. Think of all the things he has done for you--as in running this list. He does it for LOVE of the music, which I assume is the reason we are all here too. Think of his face (or the scribbly face from the People Page) beaming with joy at all the lovely messages from the Sinisterines when Splat brings him the post. (Email MWaggner at aol.com for his address). Think of all the beautiful foreign stamps that would cheer his day on post from faraway lands. It is the least one could do. Though, it is by far _more_ than making piss- poor jokes about the entire populations of places one has never visited. One of my favorite parts of Sinister is that I have become penpals with lovely folks from Brazil, Greece, Thailand, France, England, and countless other places. We write about our PASSION for music, B&S and otherwise, and what passes the days. These people may live far away (I live in New Jersey), but we have a lot in common. They help one remember that there are others out there who feel the same as you. I don't have time for negativity. Has anyone heard the recents comps of Pale Fountains and Josef K on Marina? I am looking for music to listen to as I watch the autumn leaves fall. The Tracey Thorn solo album works well too; it reminds me of my week alone in Paris and Brussels this time last year. It's time for tea. Living and loving Matthew +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Sun Oct 11 14:20:06 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:20:06 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Get On Board with the Double Deckers! Message-ID: <01bdf519$dccf42c0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Whilst reading this morning's papers, I noted with interest the "surprise" victory of the Turkish national football team over once mighty Germany. Say no more... Moose poo jewellry?! My mouth is opening and closing, but no sound is coming out... Americans? Fat? I thought they were all like the mechanic in the film "U-Turn". Except the black people, of course. They're all like boxing promoter Don King. And the hispanics. "Look boss! It's zee plane! It's zee plane!". A rich mixture of cultures. Back to our favourite topic: Northern Soul. To my great joy, I managed to pick up two of those CDs I was recommending to Tall Stu the other day. The Twisted Wheel Story is pretty jolly groovy, and the sleeve notes are very instructive. They conjure up the spirit of the times perfectly: "We joined the queue when some drunken sailors, walking up from Deansgate, started shouting abuse at the Mods, calling them poofs and ponces. Some of the scooter crowd went over and gave them a good kicking. Those sailors would rememebr that night as well as we did but for somewhat different reasons!" Heartwarming, isn't it? The music is ideal for parties, Stuart Git. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said of Shrine: The Rarest Soul Label. The music is excellent, but at least half of the tracks are only really sutiable for smoochie dances. I'm sure that kind of filth won't be allowed at Stuart's party. Another recent Sinster list mystery is cleared up by the notes to The Twisted Wheel Story: "Keith, along with Phil Stables and Phil scott are busy compiling a book about The Twisted Wheel and it's era that will be available soon." So that's where he's gotten to, the little tyke! The apostrophe is theirs, not mine. The same mistake is made throughout the notes, reinforcing my theory that TRUE northern soul fans are totally brainless freaks with moustaches and zip-up pockets, and anyone else is JUST PRETENDING. Those photos of B&S in Paris are really rather good, aren't they? I particularly like that one of Mad Dog Murdoch treating the bemused French crowd to his impersonation of Rigsby from "Rising Damp". He must have done that during the news too, the naughty boy! Yours sincerely, Travis Wammack PS: I'm really enjoying Funkyseb's attempts to brighten the list. It reminds me of that sequence in "2001" when Hal the computer is being disconnected. Funkyseb's obviously going through a difficult time in his lovelife, and it's up to us to humour him. And his Richard Roundtree joke has already assumed legendary status in Bobby Chariot's Jag and other top comedy circles. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tangent at xxx.net Sun Oct 11 15:50:01 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:50:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Loneliness References: <36209384.5EC7@club-internet.fr> Message-ID: <3620C599.194B7C34@lineone.net> from what i recall, Mr Murdoch dedicated the song in Nottingham to mr Sillitoe, and added that the man himself had once worked in a jam factory which was housed in what later became the Marcus Garvey Center. I have this horrible feeling that they chose the venue because of this connection, although that may be a somewhat unfair suggestion to make. as for it's non-release, well the word is that the reason for this is that they have been unable to get a decent quality recording done. this seems a shame because all the mixes i have heard sound nothing short of magic. Stuart suggested last year that it may have cropped up on the Modern Rock Song EP, but that too became another blurry myth in its time. And yes, it is still perhaps my all time favourite B&S song. Gets me every time... We tried figuring the lyrics once upon a time too, didn't we kids? Check the archives if you'd like to know what we came up with. keep the faith, the duke Stephane Buron wrote: > > the best B&S songs ever... In Nottingham (correct me if I'm wrong), > Stuart Murdoch dedicated this song to Allan Sillitoe, the author of "The > Loneliness of a Long Distance Runner". A.S. lived in Nottingham actually > and he studied at the Marcus Garvey College (where the gig took place). > Once again, correct me if I'm mistaking -- 'all of our dreams are dying of overdoses' Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Sun Oct 11 17:06:47 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 17:06:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Back to loving the music. Message-ID: <199810111615.RAA03466@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Hi list, I love the music too, but sometimes I have a big mouth and warped sarcastic sense of homour, sometimes people don't even get it when I'm talking to them in person, so to expect it to comes across through words was a bit dim witted. (although it seems Nick Grundy picked up on it at least) To add to what was being said about the mythical Modern Rock Song EP. I had been told by someone close ( can't remeber who it was but they emailed me before the album came out) to the band that the reason Loneliness hadn't been released was that they had yet to get the sound that they wanted down on record. And yes at the time they were going going to put it on an EP. I even got a copy of an unmixed version through someone I know, and that had the 2 tracks I've already mentioned and also a mighty moving Slow Grafitti. I hope that helped, Jake And to add to my Looper recommendation (Oh my god, Stu D sent me an email the other day!, how good is that!) I want to tell everyone how good the new Mercury Rev album is. If you are already on the sessions waiting list then you may well get that shoved on to side B of your tape. "Sebastian had just befriended afox because he didn't expect to have any new friends for a while" sleeve notes to Tigermilk. Why is there no little tale on Twattybus? While every one is praising Northern Soul, there are some mighty fine motown and Philly compilations going cheap at the evil big record stores. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From badtrip at xxx.com Sun Oct 11 18:11:33 1998 From: badtrip at xxx.com (Paul) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 10:11:33 -0700 Subject: Sinister: A humble plea to the thoughtful and gracious Message-ID: <3620E6C5.A933D0EF@teleport.com> This is my first post and I am sorry it is a request for B&S rarities, but as I have not heard anything but the albums and the ep's I am not able as I would like to be to comment on "Loneliness", "Modern Rock Song", etc..., when they are brought up in the list. I LOVE everything I have ever heard including Isobel's "Beautiful Everything" and Looper's 7". I wish I could have introduced myself with something charming or witty, but alas, I offer only a humble request for any non-lp/ep tracks which anyone may see fit to make available to me. I have some things I can trade like recordings of Elliott Smith 7"'s and a Mary Lou Lord concert video. I also have many other cd's I could trade recordings. I have blank tapes and postage. And I promise next time I will have something important or at least amusing to say. By the way, Karn David e-mailed me and said Looper will probably be playing Seattle sometime next spring. You are all welcome to stay at my place. Truly thankful, Paul "All that isn't singing is mere talking..." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SpaceboyUK at xxx.com Sun Oct 11 18:32:49 1998 From: SpaceboyUK at xxx.com (SpaceboyUK at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 13:32:49 EDT Subject: Sinister: A humble plea ....(Lonliness...? ) Message-ID: <4af1caa3.3620ebc1@aol.com> In a message dated 98-10-11 13:17:55 EDT, badtrip at teleport.com writes: << I am not able as I would like to be to comment on "Loneliness", "Modern Rock Song", etc..., when they are brought up in the list >> when you speak of the song "Lonliness" are you referring to "The Lonliness of the Middle Distance Runner"? this confused me. thanks. -a.james +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SpaceboyUK at xxx.com Sun Oct 11 20:18:22 1998 From: SpaceboyUK at xxx.com (SpaceboyUK at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:18:22 EDT Subject: Sinister: Lord Anthony? hmmm..... Message-ID: <14f5d0b3.3621047e@aol.com> i havent been paying much attention, but Lord Anthony is a B&S song right? how could i get ahold of it(if its a song) thank you. ignorantly; a.james +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NoelWhitey at xxx.com Sun Oct 11 20:25:14 1998 From: NoelWhitey at xxx.com (NoelWhitey at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:25:14 EDT Subject: Sinister: Need info Message-ID: <74a4e673.3621061a@aol.com> Hello My Name Is Damon, I am new to this list and Belle & Sebastian.I think there sooo brilliant and amazing.Well you know that anyways,I was Wondering are IF YOURE FEELING SINISTER,THE BOY WITH THE ARAB STRAP,DOG ON WHEELS,3-6-9 SECONDS OF LIGHT,LAZY LINE PAINTER JANE are the only Reales (That You Can buy) avabile.Are there any songs on compilations?If So Where could i buy these..Oh and another thing Is there Any bootlegs out there?I could trade if someone has some -Damon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mavgc at xxx.uk Sun Oct 11 20:32:20 1998 From: mavgc at xxx.uk (Mr J J Sansom) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 20:32:20 +0100 (BST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: unsubscribe sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From biondino at xxx.com Sat Oct 10 05:09:22 1998 From: biondino at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 21:09:22 -0700 Subject: Sinister: this is not the list for senseless slagging References: <362089F8.144F9642@lineone.net> Message-ID: <361EDDF2.1C85@dial.pipex.com> duke of harringay wrote: > > or maybe it is, i dunno, but in honey's absence, can i just remind > everyone that this IS meant to be a place of love and magic and wonder, > and oooh, all those things. > > it seems to me that people have forgotten something recently, and that > is, well, just how listening to Belle & Sebastian can make you FEEl. Go > on, dig out that record, that Cd, that EP, that tape, and listen and > remember... the MAGIC of it all, the sheer inescapable delirium of Pop. > then you might realise that being a stupid twat and boring everyone else > on the list with your xenophobic rants and raves and/or your assumptions > on jokery or not is just, oooh, not really very welcome at all very > much. > > one public response to another obvious public moment of idiocy is fine, > but it doesn't have to become an ongoing list debate. you want to argue > about whether kenny was joking or not, and whether that joke was funny, > and if so or not, why or why not, then, erm, take it private. > > seems to me anyway that this list gives us a chance to disprove ALL that > nationalist stereotype bollocks and that in the main, it does just that. > you can't force someone to learn, after all, only encourage them. Indeed he did. And was spot on. But...I almost wrote a reply to the Duke's earlier posting, in which he said he only bothered reading the posts of the old guard. To which I wanted to tell him to stop being ridiculous. More people naturally = more duff posts. But then you miss out on such gems as Archel, Corpora Arenacea and, yes, the two-headed beast they call Kenny, whose blunt and occasionally misguided sense of humour is just what the list needs when it gets a little too smug for its own good. And Seb's renaissance, beautiful to behold, is almost a new thing in itself, and I bet you I know who'd head a list crush list if we were polled today... But yeah, can we get back to enjoying ourselves now? I, for one, hope another 1,000 people join us, and if every one of them posts one duff comment, hell, go for it, cos we might just meet someone worth knowing - it's the new voices that keep the list alive and worth bothering with. None of us are perfect enough to blindly slag someone who Gets It Wrong, so for fuck's sake live and let live, or go private if it's really getting to you. So there you go. Pompous, ill-informed preaching over. Sleep tight, Markx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dr_sex2000 at xxx.com Sun Oct 11 19:48:22 1998 From: dr_sex2000 at xxx.com (Paul Cains) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 11:48:22 PDT Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk !!(For sale). Message-ID: <19981011184822.29854.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi everyone, Just letting everyone know that the current highest bid I have taken is �200.00. The auction is closing on the 31/10/98. I will keep you all informed . Bye for now, Paul. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bluefishy at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 01:53:12 1998 From: bluefishy at xxx.com (bluefishy at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 20:53:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Sinister Message-ID: <9810112053121Q.10170@web01.iname.net> I can read my sinister digests again! Somehow I could't get them for weeks. But . . . David Semple's 'Tales From The Sofa' is a brilliant little book. And cute too, being only a few inches on each side. I was so excited when I got it. How many of you Sinister-list people have read this book? Oh and would somebody please tell me I'm not the only one who can't keep interest long enough to read the whole digest each time? (This is my first post and I don't mean to turn everyone against me right away but I can't be the only one). - Eleanor Bluefishy ----------------------------------------------- Get your free email at http://www.alloymail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starrrbuck at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 01:39:55 1998 From: starrrbuck at xxx.com (wingless angel) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 08:39:55 +0800 Subject: Sinister: musings and thingys Message-ID: <36214FDB.47418B99@geocities.com> it is 3am and i am almost done writing yet another university assignment. i have just realised that it is the 3rd last i have left of my entire degree. woo hoo. 2 more essays, 3 exams and it will all be over.. until postgrad school. hehehe :-) anyways. i think my dad likes B&S! i put on the boy with the arab strap and he wanted me to leave them out so he could listen to more later. cool. what else? oh yeah. in a few weeks i am going to be guest host on my boyfriend's radio show. i want to play B&S. but i can't decide which one. arrrggghhhh. gosh i must have listened to the new album at least 20 times today on repeat. it's one of those cd's you don't really notice going by that many times. which is good!! :-) fiona -- the easiest way to sleep at night is to carry on believing that i don't exist - radiohead the desk for dana fund: http://dscully.cjb.net x-index: http://xindex.cjb.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mphintz at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 03:28:53 1998 From: Mphintz at xxx.com (Mphintz at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:28:53 EDT Subject: Sinister: NYC Meet-Up Nov. 1 Message-ID: The NYC shows are coming closer and closer, much to everyone's delight. We have planned a meet-up before the show so we can place faces to email addresses and meet new people. Please join us at Bryant Park, behind the New York City Public Library, at 6 pm. on November 1. The Supper Club is just a few blocks away from the park. Living and loving Matthew +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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URL: From WarranderJ at xxx.uk Mon Oct 12 09:48:55 1998 From: WarranderJ at xxx.uk (Warrander John - FML) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:48:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Northern Soul On The Radio Message-ID: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B0036CE20@gateway.finnigan.co.uk> Hello All, It seems a tad obligatory to be a bit of a Northern Soul aficionado at the moment. Quite right too, I suppose. But if you're feeling a bit insecure at not really being hip to what all this classic Northern grooves malarky's about, then those clever peeps at Radio 2 have got a treat for you. At 9pm on Wednesday evening there's some programme called "Dancing all night" (I think) which may be a Northern Soul documentary or it may just play Northern Soul tunes for an hour or two. Either way, it'll probably be good and I'm going to listen and that's about it. If you want to buy lots of nice compilations and you're still a bit of a vinyl freak then Kingbee Records on Wilbraham Rd in Chorlton have loads in the rare second-hand bit. Even though they're in the 'rare' bit they're still mostly 8-10 pounds each. And if you have any friends who can access the Granada TV archives they did a good documentary sometime in the 70s at the height of the Wigan Casino's popularity. Having read Peter Miller's description of "TRUE" Northern soul fans, I can only assume he's already seen this. Er, Keep the Faith!! Love...John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Mon Oct 12 10:17:03 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:17:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Spenders Espadrilles Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7BBB@COR-EXG1> Candarell in the morning....wrote in response to my trying to be helpful : *ahem*!! 1.99 I'll have you know....and they're CRAP!! If they are The Best of Northern Soul ones DO NOT GET!!! They are sheer wank! If that's Northern Soul, it's crap! Then again my experience of that luverly music has been, um, the club after the Leeds gig. Heh heh!! Have you bought them then ? Ha !! I can't speak for what they're like as I ended up buying a couple of old Stranglers albums...I was only pointing out the fact they were there, and for 1.99 even if you only get a couple of good tracks its got to be good value...but then I don't know what it's all about..I don't get it....I'm completely ignorant to it all, sitting here behind my pooter for 40 hours a week eating myself to death....booooooooohhooooooo....SEB, cheer me up with another one of your pub descriptions..that was GORGEOUS. You could do a selection of Pub-Polaroids for us..please. Her Royal Fluffness continued... I MOSH in Preston 'cha!!!! And I take my hat off to you for it my dear, there are a few attitudes to rock round here that I don't much care for. Uncle Peter in response to Tag : Moose poo jewellry?! My mouth is opening and closing, but no sound is coming out... But tis true my dear sir. I would just like to back up Bobert (phoooooaarrr) and second the fact that Eurotrash is by far and a long long way the most refreshingly entertaining prog on terrestial UK telly.....and you get to see bits of peoples bodies as well. But would Sir Clifford approve ? He's Hoot, He's in a suit...and get you grubby little mits off of it. Adrian. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Mon Oct 12 11:36:20 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (S.K. Gardiner) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:36:20 +0100 (bst) Subject: Sinister: I hate Monday morning lectures... In-Reply-To: <01bdf519$dccf42c0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Message-ID: On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, PJMiller wrote: > > Heartwarming, isn't it? The music is ideal for parties, Stuart Git. > Unfortunately, the same cannot be said of Shrine: The Rarest Soul Label. The > music is excellent, but at least half of the tracks are only really sutiable > for smoochie dances. I'm sure that kind of filth won't be allowed at > Stuart's party. Absolutely, I'm perfectly innocent, honest guv. I don't even know what a girl's rudey bits look like. I'm told they're a bit like jelly, but I only like raspberry flavour. As for Northern Soul, a couple of people recommended "Soul Survivors", but I haven't found it yet in any of the local shops. Maybe I might have to go for those £1.99 compilations after all... And anyway, if the right people turn up to the party I might not be listening to the music much... Various people seem to be arguing about what you ought to write to the list at the moment - I just reckon most things are fine as long as you're not slagging anyone off. After all, we're all "a bunch of complete sweeties" according to Stuart M last month, let's keep it that way? Oh, and one other thing, if you're asking people for copies of Tigermilk, radio sessions etc, could you say roughly where you live (like, the country at least)? I for one would be far more likely to do copies for someone in the UK, if only because I'm a poor student; it's certainly a lot more hassle doing tapes for people on the other side of the Atlantic when there are people nearer who could do a copy just as easily. Big Stu What was Tag doing playing guitar on stage for Kenickie at the gig last night? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From coool_air at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 12:05:37 1998 From: coool_air at xxx.com (Claire Timmins) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 04:05:37 PDT Subject: Sinister: this is not the list for senseless slagging Message-ID: <19981012110537.13231.qmail@hotmail.com> At last somebody lifted their head out of the ever sinking depths of this list to try and get us to realise why we are spending time and (for some) money on this list. Ye Duke sayeth >it seems to me that people have forgotten something recently, and that >is, well, just how listening to Belle & Sebastian can make you FEEl. Go >on, dig out that record, that Cd, that EP, that tape, and listen and >remember... the MAGIC of it all, the sheer inescapable delirium of Pop. >then you might realise that being a stupid twat and boring everyone else Is everyone going through a post-album/concert depression at the moment? Follow the wise old duke's advice and concentrate on the band. I ain't Honey but the poor soul isn't well and maybe it is related to the level of the communication going on through this list. Lets all be friends again and talk about the first time you heard the jangly beginning of Dog on Wheels or how you wished you were kissing Stuart Murdoch even if it was just for practice. I don't tend to mail a lot but I do read what is going on. Remember what the bachelor boy cliff would think about the good old 'send' button. (For new members, look up 'sir Cliff Richard' in the archives.) sorry folks but it has been f**king annoying me for ages. Take care and appreciate what we have here, Lots of love Claire ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paul.field at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 11:57:13 1998 From: paul.field at xxx.com (Paul Field) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:57:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Irrelevant, boring message Message-ID: <01BDF5D7.741440A0.paul.field@cmgplc.com> Just got back to my poota today after a weekend of indulgence, as per, and had an astonishing 72 messages to wade through - mainly from you lot, and many that were irrelevant to me, but I'm not complaining - it beats work any day. I did notice far too many people being far too harsh on Jake though. Has anyone out there ever heard of tongue-in-cheek (no, it's nothing sexual). If you are offended by his comments, nobody is forcing you to read his posts. I like the 'If you're feeling sinister' album cover, but that's because I'm sad & it's the same colour as my footie teams strip (No, not Man U). I also like dog on wheels, again though that's because I'm sad and I fancy the girl on the cover. We've done cartoon characters.. does anyone else out there fancy someone on an record sleeve? How about literary characters? Mine's Verity from Ian Banks' 'The Crow Road'. Maybe I should get out more and go after somebody who is real.... As for Northern soul, a personal favourite is 'The Wigan Casino Story'. Love, A totally brainless freak with a moustache and zip-up pockets. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 11:59:11 1998 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 03:59:11 -0700 Subject: Sinister: I met one of the girls out of Tight Fit! Message-ID: As promised, here is the story of how I met one of the girls in Tight Fit. This message is B&S content free, so feel free to delete it now if you were hoping for something more relevant. For those of you who are lucky enough to have missed the Tight Fit phenomenon, they were one of the finest examples of manufactured pop bands, and had a number one hit in the UK in 1981. Basically someone said to themselves "Lets get a body builder type bloke, oil his torso up a bit, stick a scantily clad young female either side of him, and we'll have a hit on our hands, even if they record a dodgy version of some shit old song like The Lion Sleeps Tonight." And so Tight Fit wimohwehed their way to the top of the charts, had a less succesful follow up single with Fantasy Island and disappeared without trace... Luckily I have this ink polaroid of the moment when I met the girl out of Tight Fit, otherwise you might not have believed me: That's me, the slug in the background. Not as fat then was I? The other guy is my flatmate, he's just got a job DJing for a local radio station using my record collection. You see that ordinary looking housewifey woman, the one with the pushchair, she used to be in Tight Fit. She looks bored because she's been hanging around in this empty entrance hall for about two hours waiting for her husband, I think he owns the radio station. You see those red letters on the wall at the edge of the picture? You can't see it all, but the sign says Cheshire Choice FM. I've just finished my weekly film review where I get to slag off all the films that the local cinema has let me see for free, and I think you can tell that I've got a hangover if you look closely. Next week: Alex Higgins called me a c*nt Kevan The Fat Slug *********************************** chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickclick.com http://www.chickmail.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dr_sex2000 at xxx.com Sun Oct 11 23:48:07 1998 From: dr_sex2000 at xxx.com (Paul Cains) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:48:07 PDT Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk Auction !!! Message-ID: <19981011224807.28880.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi everyone, At the moment the highest bid stands at �200.00 (for tigermilk). The closing date is 31/10/98. I will e-mail people intersted in the auction directly, but also keep the highest bid posted on the main list without mentioning names(unless you want me to) just as a matter of genral interest. Bye for now, Paul. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JohnJ at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 12:49:50 1998 From: JohnJ at xxx.com (John Johnston) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:49:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: His name is Seb - and he is funky Message-ID: Actually I don't have anything to say on the subject of Seb, expect that he rules of course, but I thought it would make a good title for an email... I read something on a post today that really made my blood boil!!! Mr. Paul Field - have you no shame! >does anyone else out there fancy someone >on an record sleeve? How about literary characters? Mine's Verity >from Ian Banks' 'The Crow Road' You fell for his trap!! We're meant to fancy Verity "the upwardly nubile scionette of the house of Walker" because she's the epitome of the "new tall elegant rich kid", being tall and rich and elegant. But she's got no substance. I bet if she came to the Sinister Booty Bounce/Soul Weekender at new year she wouldn't be there rulling on the dancefloor as Tag dropped some Northern Soul stompers and the Tall Git showed us the moves he'd been practicising at these exclusive Cambridge parties. No way - she wouldn't want to spoil her make up or crease her Prada frock! But alongside her on the pages of that wonderful book sits the worlds most glorious woman. Keep your Cleopatras, your Ophelias and Juliettes. The greatest, most sensational women in the wide-wide world of literature is Miss Ashley Watt from the said Crow Road. She is the quintessence of what by best friend Alice calls "a real girl" (apart from that bit about being in a book obviously). She's got a job, a life, a wicked sense of humour not to mention a cavalier attitude to the whole "wild thing" business. She rocks my world. I wont bore you all with the remarkable parallels between my life and that of Prentice McHoan but we did both have girlfriends called Ashley. I subsequently considered that the finest name a girl can have - yer guarentee of quality so to speak. I want to have thousands of daughters and call them all Ashley! If i have sons I'll call them Honey - get well soon big guy! xx John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Mon Oct 12 12:52:34 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:52:34 +0100 () Subject: Sinister: we are the world, we are the children In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Nick Grundy wrote: > > On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 MWaggner at aol.com wrote: > > > > >And my mate in America says that lots of people in New Jersey, are fat, so > > > >they must be. That is my reasoning, No offence intended again. > > > > > > Lots taken. > > > > Bravo, Tag.... I was really too incensed to reply this morning. Just when I > > get to thinking the world might have grown up some, I always hear this sort of > > thing. > > Blimey! Sense of humour-failure a -rama! > They were joking! It's obvious! And even if they weren't, it's all the > more amusing because they'd have had to have been so incredibly stupid > *not* to have been joking! > > hugs & kisses, > Nick. Exactly. I've been reading these irate (or as irate as any of these lovely people get) posts with disbelief. And then this, the Duke and some other people's with a nodding head and a smile on my face. I second everything that's been written in defence of Jake/general niceness. Laugh generously and stop being so paranoid. 'Riding on shitty (high) horses for a hobby is sad' (Stuart Murdoch) Archel tolerant happy bunny girl :) > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From barry at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 14:39:13 1998 From: barry at xxx.com (Barry Newton) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:39:13 +0000 Subject: Sinister: we are the world, we are the children Message-ID: michele wrote: > Someone recently said to me that going after heavy people is the > last acceptable prejudice -- I had never looked at it, but you > know, I see it's true now The last acceptable prejudice is actually racism towards the English (*not* British, we all know through Hollywood that every Irish, Scots, and Welsh person is an angel personified), as witnessed in every American film from the last 15 years portraying the English as criminals, perverts, scum, and brainless toffs. And I do mean *every* fucking American film. > And hey, I promise not to think the UK is peopled with shallow > idiots who drink too much, Leave out the shallow bit, and this is true! At least, it is for me and the other pub-lovers on the list. Anyone fancy a pint? barry. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sburon at xxx.fr Mon Oct 12 13:43:31 1998 From: sburon at xxx.fr (Stephane Buron) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:43:31 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Irrelevant, boring message References: <01BDF5D7.741440A0.paul.field@cmgplc.com> Message-ID: <3621F968.3D92@club-internet.fr> Hi list! Paul Field wrote: > How about literary characters? Mine's Verity > from Ian Banks' 'The Crow Road'. At last!!! I may be wrong but it seems to be the first time I see Iain Banks mentionned on this list. And yet , I find his books are sooo Belle and Sebastianesque : remember "Whit" and "The Crow Road". When I read his books, I couldnt help thinking there must be kind of connection between the characters and Isobel or Stuart or other members of the band. I know, it sounds ridiculous, but well, the stories always (?) take place in Scotland, with lonely kids asking questions about love and religion and boredom and society and many other things ... I dont know what you think about Iain Banks. The only thing I know is he's totally unknown in France : no translation, nothing about him. As this list must *also* deal with feelings and emotions, I just feel like telling a wee story about me. I've just moved in a new flat, near a school in Paris. And my day is punctuated with playground noises : at ten, the children go out from their classrooms and play. I can't see them. I can only hear them play, shout, laugh and cry... It's exactly like the beginning of "If You're Feeling Sinister". At 10.30, a bell rings and everything goes silent again... I love this noise. Actually, it's not a noise. It's music. Take care Stephane -- Visitez le Tweeclub sur http://www.chez.com/tweeclub "I had a job in an office once, I never talked to anyone..." Belle and Sebastian, Pocketbook Angel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 13:58:28 1998 From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:58:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Irrelevant, boring message Message-ID: <002c01bdf5e0$01b35010$4429c22b@bond.broadcast> >I fancy the girl on the cover. We've done >cartoon characters.. does anyone else out there fancy someone >on an record sleeve? Oh yes. The girl on the cover of Kelvingrove Baby - Hmmmm. >You fell for his trap!! We're meant to fancy Verity >"the upwardly nubile scionette of the house of Walker" >because she's the epitome of the "new tall elegant rich >kid", being tall and rich and elegant. But she's got no substance. She sounds exactly like my type - or at least until I meet the girl from Kelvingrove Baby. Michael "And the fox said to the little prince: men have forgotten this truth, but you must not forget it. You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed." -Antoine de Saint-Exupery [The Little Prince] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Mon Oct 12 14:11:03 1998 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:11:03 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Cover result Message-ID: <3621FFE7.664CC449@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Hi everyone , thank you for your vote . This is the cover results : 1) 3...6...9 seconds of lights 2) If you are feeling sinister 3) Lazy line painter jane ( sigh ) 4) Dogs on wheels 5) The boy with the arab strap ( no votes , nobody voted for this cover ) Take care , beautiful people. Marco#7. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paul.field at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 14:16:41 1998 From: paul.field at xxx.com (Paul Field) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:16:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I have no retort Message-ID: <01BDF5EA.EFF7F8C0.paul.field@cmgplc.com> John Johntson wrote: Mr. Paul Field - have you no shame! >does anyone else out there fancy someone >on an record sleeve? How about literary characters? Mine's Verity >from Ian Banks' 'The Crow Road' You fell for his trap!! We're meant to fancy Verity "the upwardly nubile scionette of the house of Walker" because she's the epitome of the "new tall elegant rich kid", being tall and rich and elegant. But she's got no substance. Unfortunately, I cannot really argue with you with any conviction John. I haven't read the said book for about 4/5 years and consequently my memory may betray me. All I know is that Verity has been etched into my memory as being sexy, sweet and genuine. I also have somewhat vague memories Miss Ashley Watt, and I confess that much of what you said about her is true - but you failed to mention my most prominent memory of her, that she's a bitch! Anyway, how can anybody fancy a girl with a name that's so similar to 'Ashley Ward'??? John, please feel free to tell me that I'm talking utter drivel (I'm sure that you will), but you won't destroy my memories. Stay safe & keep the faith, Paul. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Oct 12 14:38:33 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:38:33 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Eartha Kitt Widdles in Bus Shelters Message-ID: <01bdf5e5$9ba5eb60$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Due to popular demand, I have started reading messages from Kenny. Look what I found! > >While every one is praising Northern Soul, there are some mighty fine >motown and Philly compilations going cheap at the evil big record stores. > I saw a Music Club Philly compilation the other day, big value package as usual, but it contains Teddy Pendergrass. Who is he, and what is he to me? Do I like him, or is a he a bastard like some people are? I think it was Teddy Pendergrass anyway. Paul Field signed as: A totally brainless freak with a moustache and zip-up pockets. I should point out that I'm very much in favour of totally brainless freaks. The zip-up pockets are so their keys don't fall out when they're spinning on their heads in a cloud of talcum powder. There's a good picture of a Northern Soul fan on the cover of Kent's Magic Touch, and the people sitting behind seem to have little contact with the outside world. I approve wholeheartedly, even if they are freaks. It's better than being addicted to fruit machines. I like fruit machine addicts too. Eartha Kitt's got two tracks on that one. Don't know if they're any good, but the 13 quid price tag suggests they bloody well ought to be. The moustache is for brushing up all the talcum powder when they've finished, of course. People without moustaches have to borrow Dougal from the Magic Roundabout, otherwise the bouncers'll thump them. My comments about Turkey's victory over Germany the other day were in no way intended to refer to anything other than football. I know there are lots of Turks in Germany, but that's not why I mentioned it. I just feel that it backs up my theory that this could be Turkey's year as far as football is concerned. Let's face it, it's got to be this year or next, because I don't suppose they'll do to well in the proposed European Super League. It's all down to the knock-on effect of the presence of my chubby hero, John Toshack. That's my theory anyway. I know it's got nothing to do with Belle and Sebastian, but I have to tell somebody in case I'm right. I was spot-on with the World Cup. I got an e-mail from Stuart David once. He called me an "old menace", which I wasn't really expecting. He was quite polite though, apart from that. I was going to order a Looper t-shirt, but I chickened out because I haven't heard the record yet, and for all I know it might be the indie equivalent of Teddy Pendergrass. I have read the first four chapters of his book though. It's okay, not enough swearing though. Newcomers might like to read it anyway. It's up the treehouse. It's bank holiday here, and it's pissing it down, so I think we might be going to the pictures. Just thought I'd warn you. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aszolnoki at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 14:50:11 1998 From: aszolnoki at xxx.com (Andras Zalan Szolnoki) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 06:50:11 PDT Subject: Sinister: A Good Point! Message-ID: <19981012135013.2980.qmail@hotmail.com> If everything seems to be going well You obviously don�t know what the hell is going on..... I just thought you people might like it.......... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atieger at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 15:22:24 1998 From: atieger at xxx.com (aaron tieger) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 07:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister:we are the world, we are the children Message-ID: <19981012142224.11098.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> A few months back I went to see a very good show by Dwight Diller (completely un-B&S like West Virginian banjo-playing preacher man) and he was talking about how in America it's the South that's the last acceptable prejudice, and in the South it's West Virginia and Arkansas which are the last acceptable prejudices. He then followed it up with two very funny jokes about Arkansas. Just thought I'd add my two cents. And while I'm at, on the subject of fictional crushes, my recent ex-girlfriend was obsessed with Nicola Six (out of "London Fields"). Sort of a crush, sort of a weird quality in a girlfriend. aaron tieger cambridge, ma === atieger at rocketmail.com auger/anvil "So goodbye, so long, the road calls me dear and your tears cannot bind me anymore And farewell to the girl with the sun in her eyes I'll kiss you and then I'll be gone" --Tom Waits _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail, free e-mail for the planet. * Visit & explore Cybersmith at http://www.cybersmith.com * Get your web-based e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From terri_wise at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 15:29:39 1998 From: terri_wise at xxx.com (Wise, Terri) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:29:39 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Post-crap post Message-ID: <199810121430.AA27769@interlock.mgh.com> I spent some time in England, and I'll say that pubs ARE a wonderful thing... but I must also say that the folks you see on Ricki Lake and the like are probably about .0000000001 percent of the US population. The producers of those shows seek out the most outrageous, pathetic individuals they can find. I've seen British TV and tabloids... I wouldn't say they're much less guilty of that sort of thing. Obviously, in neither case (Britain nor America, TV nor tabloids) do those individuals in any real way represent the population at large. As for what Americans do besides going to the pub... well, it depends. America is a very diverse country. Trying to stereotype Americans is a bit silly because there are so many of us. I think it also depends very much on how old one is... I'm 23 and I go out to dinner, go to shows, have friends over to my place for drinks, etc... For example - on Friday night I had a party at my place with friends aged 21 - 35 ish. On Saturday I went to a friend's for drinks. Yesterday I relaxed at home and then went out to dinner... then returned home to read. Lots of people frequent bars or clubs. Clubs can be fun (though good ones are hard to come by), but I tend to find a lot of those places too noisy... in that way, I prefer pubs. But there are a lot of other options. I very much appreciated Tag's response to all the Americans vs. Brits blabber. Tag wrote: "If I were you, dear Americans, I wouldn't blame Ricki, Jerry, Ophra er all, I'd blame Kenny. My favourite programme is "Eurotrash", where we spend half an hour every week being treated to hilarious exposes of Italian porn stars, Germans who dress as babies for sexual kicks, and Swedes who make jewellry out of moose poo. At no point has it seemed to me that this is normal behaviour across the channel. That's because I am smart enough to know the difference between television and real life. There's been a lot of crap talked here recently about Americans, and while I have certain reservations about American government policy (I have certain reservations about British government policy too), I'd suggest that those responsible for this patronising "I don't like the rest of your people, but you're OK" attitude grow up, or shut the fuck up." Thanks for speaking intelligently. As for those who claim it was all a joke - let's face it, it's hard to tell on a post if someone's joking or not. And I'm not sure I really believe that anyway... Has anyone noticed that most of the people who say it was a joke are not Americans? Perhaps when you're the butt of the joke it isn't all that funny? This list is supposed to be about Belle & Sebastian, more or less, right? Thanks also to Michele for reminding us that pre-judging individuals based on their weight (or any other physical attribute) should NOT be an "acceptable prejudice." Given the statistics, I'd like to remind you all that there are likely at least fifty (quite possibly more) people on this list who have, at one time or another, had an eating disorder. The sort of comments a lot of people have been making are rather careless. And what's up with the popularity contests on the list? (Guess I'm not winning any with this post... ohhh wellll) NO wonder we have so many "quiet" members! ANYWAY, many thanks to the many very generous people who have offered to tape things for me and for other needy list members! It's nice to know you're out there! I'm slowly becoming more enamoured with Arab Strap... but my faves are still on Sinister, must say. Speaking of covers: has the band had anything to say about the obvious similarities with Smiths album covers? I like them very much, don't get me wrong - I'm curious, though, if the band or jeepster has acknowledged the connection. If you've gotten to this part of the message, congratulations! :-) Now off to some work... Terri Wise Editorial Assistant McGraw-Hill College +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 15:30:37 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid Dossinger) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:30:37 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Meanies/Athens meet-up Message-ID: <3622128B.1BE42554@bigfoot.com> Hello, dear children. Gather 'round and let me ask you a favor. Knock it off. You know what I'm talking about. I've seen an otherwise good mailing list (the Pulp list) completely ruined by insults. Now, I can forgive ol' "Kenny" for being a little too sarcastic, but I'm having a hard time forgiving the people who feel the need to write in and say, "Well, *I* knew he was joking, and only an idiot wouldn't." There's no reason why those of us who didn't think he was joking should have thought otherwise. Besides, insulting jokes are still insulting. Just...give the benefit of the doubt and let it go. And if I could ask that if you feel the need to say something that's potentially insulting to a large group of people, whether it's a joke or not, just keep it to yourself, please. In other news entirely, anyone who is going to the Athens show from far out of town and is looking for a great resourse of things to do and bars and restaurants, etc., direct your browser to http://www.flagpole.com and go to the Athens City guide. It's got pretty much everything. And I'm thinking of the Engine Room (bar next door to the 40 Watt) for an after-show meet-up (and maybe a pre-show, too?). Anyone have any thoughts on this? Too many underage attendees? Someone from Athens not like the Engine Room? If you're interested in a meet-up, check the meet-up board on the jeepster site. The Athens one has more posts than any other. Yeah, South! ~Reid +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NoelWhitey at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 15:44:20 1998 From: NoelWhitey at xxx.com (NoelWhitey at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:44:20 EDT Subject: Sinister: irrelavent question Message-ID: Hello Everyone, I've seen we've been Talking about Northern Soul and I just recently dont keep much up on New Music Categories) realized it was a music(Atleast I think).I always thought they Were talking about the Vere's "A Northern Soul". Anyhow,I was wondering hows itsound and what are like The "Classic" records to buy not class as in old but Great like "What's the Story(Morning Glory?)" For britpop Now I must go off To School and Dream of Being A rock Star in London and having the girl of my dreams. P.S. AHH! If I didnt Know We were Voting for Covers,I would've voted For The Boy With The Arab Strap! its Tops -Damon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JMoorkens at xxx.ie Mon Oct 12 15:45:58 1998 From: JMoorkens at xxx.ie (Joss Moorkens) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:45:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Monday Poem - "a poem for monday" Message-ID: Good day to you all. I'm not sure whether I'm the appropriate person for this monday poem business, since I'm not particularly literate or familiar with the idiom. It is some years since I was in school, y'see. However, since I appear to be 'it' for today, I shall give you 2 poems by Don Van Vliet alias Captain Beefheart. I like them because they have a similar sense of mischief as his marvellous music and make me smile. I have a cd of him reading them which is unlistenable because he's suffering from some debilitating illness and clearly finds speaking quite difficult. I'd rather imagine him reading them out in his booming 5 octave glory, waving his arms around like a madman. Righty-ho. The Tired Plain The bra was white and yellow elastic and held to foam cones the corners triangular shaped pyramid three edges made one point starfish and embry boards triple D cupped and poked to a point the main character was composed into a bow that broke first in the front and equal on adjacent sides American Cowboy was approaching on a collision course -his hands groped outstretched three digits triangular to the front nail a line was drawn from the middle finger to the knuckle of the index finger across the middle finger onto the third- creating a perfect arrow with an imaginary point Skeleton Makes Good There's so many things to feel and see while you're awake they're just out of reach out of grasp out of reach and just as many, maybe more the minute that you sleep so I got to throw my preach skeleton breath scorpion blush I have a crush on your skeleton watch out unsuspecting stranger you'll fall off the log headfirst into dreams end up screaming this will comb the wolf and that will comb the fog what will peen the rain what will preen the hog oh you mean earth and hell over you and laugh at your tyre tracks if you get up skeleton makes good. All shy now. I choose .....(waves mouse randomly).... Miss Erin. If she's about. Sheepish hug, joss +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Mon Oct 12 16:03:41 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:03:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: People are listening to me Message-ID: <199810121502.QAA09204@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> PJ wrote > Due to popular demand, I have started reading messages from Kenny. Look what > I found! Thanks! >Teddy Pendergrass. Who is he, and what is he to me? > Do I like him, or is a he a bastard like some people are? I think it was > Teddy Pendergrass anyway. I don't know, nor do I care. I am happy with my O'Jays and Degrees, but I am more into Motown. Marvin Gaye and Stevie Wonder. They are great. In fact go and buy that Marvin Gaye album that is sitting in the sale shelves in your local record store. There is bound to be one really cheap. The early stuff is more POPlike, bouncy and happy, his duets are fanatastic and his later stuff is really moving. And as for fancying girls on covers, record covers that is, I have this thing for Sharlene from the band Texas, that Scottish accent as well, her and our dear own Isobel. In fact I've taken to turning the cd booklet to TBWTAS back to front just so she is on the cover. So does that count.? Jake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MctaggartR at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 14:55:13 1998 From: MctaggartR at xxx.com (Mctaggart, Robert) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:55:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Love me, I'm a liberal Message-ID: 'ello my Breetish chums (and everyone else), Serious bit first... The Duke said: "This is the place for senseless shagging". No he didn't. Why, that would be crazy. He said that "this is not the list for senseless slagging", which is true. I would add, however, that there is a time and a place for sensible slagging. And while I agree with Mark that the occasional mad outbursts make fascinating reading, and of course there's nothing whatsoever wrong with a bit of passion, you really can't blame anyone for reacting when they're insulted. But on to more joyous matters... Yes, Peter, moose poo jewellry. They make it in Lappland, apparently. Moose poo earrings, moose poo bracelets, the works. I think they put it in a kiln or something. I think it's very resourceful. And why stick to moose poo (if you'll pardon the expression), I'm sure Tony Adams is sitting on a goldmine. A couple of messages: To those kind listees (in particular Larry, whose address I seem to have lost) who helped me find that "Tropicalia" CD that I was wittering on about a while back, thank you. It arrived last week, and it's the sound of loveliness. Finally to Mr. Jani Jarvinen of Helsinki, stop lurking in the shadows. I thought you romos were supposed to be more flamboyant. Oh, and Happy Birthday. OK, salut maintenant tag xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Mon Oct 12 16:13:34 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:13:34 -0400 Subject: Sinister:we are the world, we are the children References: <19981012142224.11098.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Message-ID: <36221C9E.8D3A3EE6@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> aaron tieger wrote: > A few months back I went to see a very good show by > Dwight Diller (completely un-B&S like West Virginian > banjo-playing preacher man) and he was talking about > how in America it's the South that's the last > acceptable prejudice, and in the South it's West > Virginia and Arkansas which are the last acceptable > prejudices. He then followed it up with two very > funny jokes about Arkansas. ...and the last acceptable prejudices in West Virginia are towards anyone who's not white, straight, christian, and anyone who dresses differently. Trust me, I grew up there. I can feel no pity towards those who feel it is slighted. I used to go to all-ages punk rock shows when I was younger, and the town where the best venue was closed it down because people in the town didn't like that element walking the streets. B&S content: There's a picture of a baby holding TWATTYBUS and smiling on the Matador news page. Check it out. /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at oak.cats.ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Mon Oct 12 13:54:10 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:54:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: hmmm, now where's that delete button again? Message-ID: <3621FBF2.AB57DDCA@jeepster.co.uk> i've just managed a marathon deleting exercise and can proudly report that over 200 sinister messages have just bit the dust on the inside of my trash folder ,is anyone else having to do this? - purely rhetorical, don't mail the list an answer any time you see a dead-end question in a mail :) anyway, in the light of, oh i don't know how many new people continually finding their way into the sinister nether regions only to be found later sobbing "so please, can i have a copy of tigermilk/ what other releases have they had/ what's that hidden track on the end of the 369 cd?", i though i should be the caring humanitarian and try to ease all our ears (eyes?). everything you're ever likely to ask has probably already been asked before and the answer lies in FAQ's, archives and sites. all set up by people who care. firstly there is the sinister webs site, it holds all the stuff to do with this mailing list and if you haven't been there ever, why not? you can find a list FAQ, the archive of everything ever said, guitar chords and photo's of list members, the url is http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/ secondly there is the jeepster domain. it houses the fan club/record label site with major help from the old tweenet resource. it has another FAQ, all the official news and tour dates, meet-up details, lyrics, interviews/press and stuff, sound files, postcard thingy, poetry, ink polaroids, chat software and instructions, etc. you can find this at http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ from both of those you'll find links to other sites, the more comprehensive list being on the sinister site. but the point being? well, there's a lot of waffle and spite on the list at the moment, and there's no need for it. and when it comes down to it paul is going to get better only to come back and find this place unrecognisable and full of minor squabbles, do you really think he wants to come back to that considering al the work he has to put in to maintain it? paul is in a unique position, and as much as he loves doing what he does, do you think he would continue if it wasn't so much fun?? think about it. if i'm wrong you can say so - privately. it only requires replying to me and not the list you know. david kitchen PS: bound to get more mail now to help bulge my ever increasing inbox, it's a cheap shot but it's the only way people ever mail me ;) (note the sarcasm in that last line) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rmckay at xxx.edu Mon Oct 12 16:23:08 1998 From: rmckay at xxx.edu (baggy trousers) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:23:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: how does it feel to feel? In-Reply-To: <19981011234020.24169.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: > ---duke of harringay wrote: > > > > it seems to me that people have forgotten something recently, and that > > is, well, just how listening to Belle & Sebastian can make you FEEl. i let my friend borrow my copies of sinister and tbwtas so she could hear who i am driving a long distance to see...she finally listened to tbwtas and said first of allthat she couldnt see me listening to them...but then could because she could see some similarites with the smiths... she had laughed at me when i had a hard time desribing their sound at first so after she had given b&s a go i decided to ask her how SHE would descibe them and all she couldcome up with is "children running in a field in the 1970's" ok..i'll have to take her word for it because i was barely old enough to remember the 70's myself..i turned a whopping 4 by the time 1980 rolled about..... roberta +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LeeannJea at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 16:25:44 1998 From: LeeannJea at xxx.com (LeeannJea at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:25:44 EDT Subject: Sinister: in a bit of a bind, really. Message-ID: hi kiddies! so I'm a terrible procrastinator when it comes to getting gig tickets, and it's put me in quite a spot with the belle and sebby's new york city shows... I only have a ticket to the first night's show, and my friend only has a ticket to the second night's show, so if we're to go together, we need an extra ticket to each... so if some kindly listmember out there has a ticket to *either* new york city show that you can part with, *please* *please* *please* get in touch with me! I'll gladly pay you face value + a bit more, plus I promise to adore you and praise your name forever... thanks for listening dearies, leeann "sweet little girl / I prefer you behind the wheel / and me the passenger" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LeeannJea at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 16:39:06 1998 From: LeeannJea at xxx.com (LeeannJea at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:39:06 EDT Subject: Sinister: dull... Message-ID: someone queried: > ps What is the American stereotype of us English. Is it all Hugh Grant, > posh accents....... the kids = sartorially-elegant, pasty-faced, lank-haired, skinny-hipped, camp- smoking, gig-going, beer-swilling hipsters who tend to have good taste in music and bad taste in loungewear. the adults = um, stiff upper lip? lots of love, leeann * * * * if you have an extra ticket to *either* belle and sebby show in new york, please be a dear and get in touch with me! - leeannjea at aol.com - thank you! * * * * +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chouli at xxx.net Mon Oct 12 17:04:40 1998 From: chouli at xxx.net (Lisa M. Moore) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:04:40 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Any extra Boston tix lying around? Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981012120440.00e7eb2c@pop.tiac.net> Hello all: De-lurking to throw myself on the mercy of the crowd. Through no real fault of my own...OK, OK, I confess, it was all my fault. Whew, I feel so much better now... Where was I? Aah, yes, pleading for an extra ticket to the Boston show. Anyone. Anyone at all!? Please email me privately, even if it's only a rumor of some friend of a friend's dog that might not want to go anymore! Ta ever so--Lisa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nmg20 at xxx.uk Mon Oct 12 17:06:27 1998 From: nmg20 at xxx.uk (Nick Grundy) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 17:06:27 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Footie teams In-Reply-To: <01BDF5D7.741440A0.paul.field@cmgplc.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Paul Field wrote: > I like the 'If you're feeling sinister' album cover, but that's > because I'm sad & it's the same colour as my footie teams strip > (No, not Man U). If it turns out to be Liverpool or Arsenal I still won't be very impressed... ;-) Nick. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 17:19:42 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 17:19:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: pasty-faced - yes; skinny-hipped, erm... Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22289E86@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Leeann wrote: > ps What is the American stereotype of us English. Is it all Hugh Grant, > posh accents....... >the kids = sartorially-elegant, pasty-faced, lank-haired, skinny-hipped, camp- >smoking, gig-going, beer-swilling hipsters who tend to have good taste in >music and bad taste in loungewear. So you know Funkyseb, then? >the adults = um, stiff upper lip? Erm, where is it the line is being drawn? I know that there is no excuse for being anything other than an adult at 24, but I find it almost ridiculous when I hear a mother say to her child "don't throw your food at the nice man, dear". Well, okay, it's usually *my* mother, but you know what I mean. I'm doing my best to be light-hearted and jovial after a series of self-righteous (or humble - cheers, Tag!), po-faced letters, but unfortunately I'm a grim-faced bastard who never smiles. Make me laugh, brothers and sisters, and I shall be oh so grateful. I am quite intrigued as to how our new chum "dr_sex2000" got his name if, as claimed, he didn't choose it. These new-fangled random computer -generated monikers, I suppose... Cheers for the cover vote thing, Marco. I'm not too surprised by the lack of votes for the "difficult" third album - it makes international man of sex Chris Geddes look a little foolish - this is a man who has played with V-Twin, for god's sake! Where's the respect? I reckon the photo was chosen for a bet... Back by no popular demand whatsoever, but just to annoy you all, Mark xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From csomeone at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 17:40:41 1998 From: csomeone at xxx.com (Cynthia Someone) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:40:41 PDT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981012164042.475.qmail@hotmail.com> Not much here, except that I slipped into Mod Lang last Saturday to find out what's cooking and while chatting it up with the guy at the counter found a slew of TBWTAS album sleevy picture things and most of them have tape or may be a bit trampled, but anyway i got one, and now it's on my wall next to the Buddha. isobel side up. They have more,and they're really nice and will probably give you one. other things on my wall: a picture from one of Blakes books, a postcard of a havana stevedore, a really bad watrecolor I did when I thought i was an artist of a circular rainbow, a japanese style crane painting because of my crane dream, a couple of pictures of me that my friend drew that sort of disturb me, but I don't know what else to do with them... they belong under the bed, where they will remain until I'm really old. i've never read any of Iain Banks but he sounds like something I'd be really into. Richard Brautigan's In watermelon sugar was written by a beat who killed himself, about this man with a gentle life. And everyday there is a different colored sun, and for each color there is a different color of watermelon. For example, I think Wedenesdays are black soundless days and watermelon seeds planted that day will grow black soundless watermelons. There are also tigers that talk, that helped him with his math while they ate his parents. Cynthia ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Mon Oct 12 17:51:52 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 17:51:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: jeepster-news: Salako Gig!!! Message-ID: <362233A8.15BECADA@jeepster.co.uk> Hello all ... Ok, so this will probably frustrate all of you non-UK or indeed non-LondonUK residents, but i feel it is my duty to invite you all to Salako's debut London gig proper this Thursday @ the 12 Bar Club, 22 Denmark Place (off Charing Cross Road), London, WC2. Nearest tube is Tottenham Court Road (the red one!). Doors will be at 8.00pm and Salako are onstage at 10.30pm (yep, i know it's late ... sorry!). Entry is five pounds or four pounds with a flyer. You can go to the promoters site at http://freespace.virgin.net/cushy.productions/gigs.htm to download your own flyer for cheapo entry! (i'm hoping to get The Lucksmiths *sigh* on the bill too, but i'll e-mail back if this is the case) Salako will also play some more dates around the country mid-november, stay tuned for more details. Hope to see you there. :) Cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a message from the Jeepster Records news mailing list. Visit our site at http://www.jeepster.co.uk for more info. To unsubscribe yourself from this list send a message to majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'unsubscribe news' in the body of the message Any problems? mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rmuencho at xxx.DE Mon Oct 12 18:34:58 1998 From: rmuencho at xxx.DE (Orlando Munos) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:34:58 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Slight Return! Message-ID: <36223DBD.AC25D8C0@smail.uni-koeln.de> Good evening Ladies and Gentleman! First of all thanks for stuffing my mailbox with these delightful messages. I think it's my turn to make sure I got TBWTAS right (at least there's one point I'm not really sure about). In the middle of'Space Boy Dream' there's a synthesizer in the background. The sound ,chords & rythm are very familiar to me and I'm sure that I've heard this bit before. Maybe on the Talking Head's 'Remain In Light'-album (highly recommended, legendary. Maybe one of the best album from that decade, as Talk Talk's 'Spirit Of Eden' of course). Can anybody share this feeling and enlighten me on that issue? -Orlando +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Mon Oct 12 18:07:10 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 18:07:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Velvet toilet Tissue, so soft on yer arse.... In-Reply-To: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7BBB@COR-EXG1> Message-ID: Hiyee! Adrian Evans in his pink and orange pin-striped suit wrote: >Have you bought them then ? Ha !! >I can't speak for what they're like as I ended up buying a couple of old >Stranglers albums...I was only pointing out the fact they were there, >and for 1.99 even if you only get a couple of good tracks its got to be >good value...but then I don't know what it's all about..I don't get >it.... No! Everyone! I have completely changed my mind as regards my BEST OF NORTHERN SOUL 2 cd! I have no learnt itf#s full value. Upon first listen, it SMELT, but now....I have been converted to the fact taht soem of the songs are fun, even though they have been dubbed over with geetar sounds from an old casio bingatone. There is one song, by a dude whose name I have forgotten, who just IS *CHEF*. You have to get them, it's fab. >I'm completely ignorant to it all, sitting here behind my pooter >for 40 hours a week eating myself to >death... Well do not worry yourself monsieur.... I don't know what this 'soul' lark is all about either. I know wot oi loikes though.... ceratin list dudes, whose names ryhme with 'nag', and 'leter diller/jobby pariot' said they would do meee tapes and I am looking forward to them muchly. 'Nag' said he would do meee a tape ages ago, but I bet ee's forgotten, but can we let him off cos he's in lurrve? NO!! It depends, upon what i don't know....ah ooh, I'm going to apply for BSc(hons) Information Systems in Leeds. In message <74a3c5af.361fd2d4 at aol.com>, MWaggner at aol.com writes > >What, we fucking burn New Jersey because it might have fat people >living there? Is that some new fangled "final solution" to some idiot's >prejudice? Why is it acceptible to go after people who are overweight? Exactly! Basically it's HELLO mister western society predujice - based just as much on economic market factors, diet industry, food industry, face it, the way you feel is a business chicas. If everyone was happy with themselves, why gosh! What the fuck would happen to the world? To be 'cool' you've got to look thin. After all I've done, I still don't know why thinness should be valued so much, where in the history of the world has thinness been a value? Perhaps related to class with upper classes being thin.... fat people are perhaps subconsciously resented, geee I don't know. Read Fat is a Feminist Issue to find out more, I've forgotten who wrote it though. >And hey, I promise not to think the UK is peopled with shallow idiots who >drink too much, based on Kenny's ill-begotten attitude. Nor to picture you as >Benny Hill, pre-verbal creatures with televisions in your stomachs, people who >walk silly, or resemble Margaret Thatcher in any way whatsoever -- and I >don't think of you as sharing your future king's desire to be a feminine >hygiene product either. Um......I don't get it.....explain....hey and what am I then? Well obviously I'm a telletubby. I'm Po. 'Cos Po's little and has a scooter, um actualLY OK AFTER I FINISHED MY GCSES I watched it...I'm not proud, it was just the way things are....how come there are no Northern stereotypes? Watch Corrie!!! AND! Does anyone know what the hell this song is? It's been in my head for the past coupla weeks and all it does it go something like 'put your hands in teh air in the air in the air put your hands in the air' and is it from an advert or something? A really bad advert? I bought a black and white shirt today! We are having 70's lessons tomorrow, well in English at least, where we study Thomas Hardy to the sound of disco. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Candarel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NeilD at xxx.uk Mon Oct 12 19:10:21 1998 From: NeilD at xxx.uk (Neil Dewhurst) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:10:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: 12-bar club Message-ID: <704AE307AB53D2119EE300805F7DF755E2F1@NCMSERVER> I went to the 12-bar club once. Sat outside for ages waiting while the staff decided to let me in or not. Billy Bragg said hello, and Robyn Hitchcock touched me (though not with his greatness) on his way off the stage. I seem to remember that only five people can fit comfortably in the "arena", so it'll be intimate at least, especially if the whole BS mailing list turns up. If you can't get in you can sit around in the alley outside drinking from the bar and still hear the show. I have to go to Birmingham tomorrow, which, at the risk of offending some perfectly nice midlanders, I would rather not do. (Because I'm ill, not because I'm anti-brum). Whoever's tape I have will be listened to on the way, as will a heavy dose of Grant Lee Buffalo. Buy their new album - Jubilee - it's almost as good as fuzzy. Promise. All the love and poison in London Neil +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nmg20 at xxx.uk Mon Oct 12 19:27:58 1998 From: nmg20 at xxx.uk (Nick Grundy) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:27:58 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Post-crap post In-Reply-To: <199810121430.AA27769@interlock.mgh.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Wise, Terri wrote: > Thanks for speaking intelligently. As for those who claim it was all a joke > - let's face it, it's hard to tell on a post if someone's joking or not. True, but it doesn't really matter what the intent behind the post was. Even if the poster had meant it seriously, the sort of person who believes that everyone in a particular place is fat because their friend told them so is inherently someone at whom one should surely laugh. As it is, it *was* a joke, and I thought rather an amusing one, but that's not the point. > And I'm not sure I really believe that anyway... Has anyone noticed that > most of the people who say it was a joke are not Americans? Perhaps when > you're the butt of the joke it isn't all that funny? I have dual nationality, and I thought it was funny. Not, however, because it was racist (it wasn't), but because it was so overtly anti-racist. > This list is supposed to be about Belle & Sebastian, more or less, > right? Isn't that sort of humour quite similar to what a lot of B&S songs do? > Thanks also to Michele for reminding us that pre-judging individuals based > on their weight (or any other physical attribute) should NOT be an > "acceptable prejudice." Given the statistics, I'd like to remind you all > that there are likely at least fifty (quite possibly more) people on this > list who have, at one time or another, had an eating disorder. The sort of > comments a lot of people have been making are rather careless. I'm totally in agreement with your sentiments here, but again, I don't think the original post *was* doing what you suggest it was. Anyway, I think all those criticising the message have missed one crucial angle of attack - he should have used smileys to mark up the humour. This failure is a hanging offence on most lists... ;-) Nick. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gaviston at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 19:45:33 1998 From: gaviston at xxx.com (Todd Beatty) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:45:33 PDT Subject: Sinister: You can stick Bob Geldof up your arse! your fat american arse! Message-ID: <19981012184534.23565.qmail@hotmail.com> funky seb wrote: "Jake wrote lots of opinions that made lots of people shout at him. Well, that's probably all over, so I won't comment." and then he proceeded to comment: "my mate in america says everyone in new jersey, is fat, so they must be." did you ask him how he gets along without a pub? tag wrote: "I'd blame Kenny" say it ain't so kenny!! i'd much rather blame seb, esp. if all the glamorous things about him are true, then all the more so: lets give the pretty boy some bad publicity, bring him off his pedestal. michelle, i wouldn't worry about funky slim's comment on obese people in moo jersey. it was a joke, one in poor taste perhaps, but hopefully without malicious intent. right seb? besides if you are truly offended, scrap your plans for a week's vaca at the club med in rio, buy a ticket to kent ,located next to god awful, pillaging populated sussex (according to seb, hehe), find out where he lives and go sit your fat arse right on his tummy. that'll learn him a lesson in "acceptable prejudice". if you need help, perhaps i can lend a hand, erm a few pounds rather, seeing as how i'm american, and live in connecticut which is SO close to n.j. that i can't help but be a tad on the plump side. we can take turns flattening him out. el duque wrote:"One public response to another obvious public moment of idiocy is fine, but it doesn't have to become an ongoing list debate. You want to argue about whether Kenny was joking or not, and whether that joke was funny, and if so or not, then erm take it in private." well said duke. i'll go one step further with this -- perhaps we should start a web sight of rude obnoxious jokes, warped nationalistic opinions, and the response they illicit from 700 people. we can put it right in between the web sight dedicated to list meet ups, and the web sight where everyone lists their fav. bands, which could be linked to the sight of 53 people asking for tickets to the same concert with no reply, and is connected to the sight containing before photos of listees from new jersey looking grossly overweight and after photos of them noticeably slimmer, and slightly inebriated as they sit in a pub in kent drinking a pint of bitter whilst giving a sneering upper lip to a few drunkards from sussex. any volunteers to sit all this up? adrian evans wrote:"...sitting here behind my pooter for 40 hours a week eating myself to death..." you must be american adrian. rachel playforth wrote:" If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on." rachel, does the opposite to this hold true as well? spaceboyuk said:"this confused me. thanks" my thoughts exactly all right i've said my peas, shave your head, and disown your faith todd p.s.: mark c., we're rolling out the red carpet for YOU baby!!! i've hired a group of private dancers to escort you to your hotel; they're from new jersey so it should be TONS of fun. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From klovelace at xxx.edu Mon Oct 12 17:09:00 1998 From: klovelace at xxx.edu (Kevin Lovelace) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:09:00 -0500 Subject: Sinister: chicago show Message-ID: <3622299C.834E1260@ou.edu> Hello! I am not sure how this message board works. I was wondering if you could post a note for me? I am flying up from Oklahoma (hopefully) to the chicago show. I am very broke and I am looking for anyone who is going to the show and lives near the airport and is wiilling to let me stay the night with them after the show or know of any youth hostels in Chicago. Very urgent. I really, really,really,really, really want to go to this show. Thank you! sincerly, Kevin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TWidmer at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 20:16:45 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:16:45 -0700 Subject: Sinister: do you think a girl should go to bed with a fella, if he doesn't love her? Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF032BC13F@amerwksnt01.xil.com> Hallo!! In case anyone cares, The Make-up were - as ever - fab. You should see them when they play your town. but you already knew that. <> I think Yo La Tengo wrote a song about him? Anyway, this film, along with one called "gregory's girl" have been mentioned before, but I have yet to find either available for rent here. so do any US list people, bay area specifically, have suggestions on where to find them? under what category (comedy/drama/action/romance/...adult?!?) do they fall? I feel so left out. << it contains Teddy Pendergrass. Who is he, and what is he to me?>> Finally my hours spent nibbling biscuits and watching VH-1's "Behind the Music" come in handy... okay, let's see! ::clears throat::: Teddy Pendergrass used to be in a 60s/70s band called the Bluenotes, they are quite famous for a song called "If you don't know me by now" which was later covered by Simply red or Paul young or someone equally boring. He went on to a successful solo career, putting out some acclaimed soul albums, and as I recall, lead a somewhat debaucherous lifestyle. In the early 80s, Teddy was in a terrible car accident and was left paralyzed from the waist down. he still continues recording, but has found God and now leans toward the gospel music side of things. Now if only someone would ask for some info on Andy Gibb or John Denver... I'm trying to convert a friend to the ways of B&S. Please e-mail me privately (i.e. no clogging up Sinister with song l*sts) if you can suggest songs that should definitely be included...none of my previous conversion attempts have been very successful, so i am pathetically seeking assistance. tata, Tara +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andyp at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 20:18:36 1998 From: andyp at xxx.com (Andrew Pates) Date: 12 Oct 98 12:18:36 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Sign me up Message-ID: <199810121918.UAA14140@haymarket.ed.ac.uk> please! Andy andyp at traderpub.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nickdastoor at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 20:46:57 1998 From: nickdastoor at xxx.com (Nick Dastoor) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: The State to come all over Message-ID: <19981012194657.13210.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com> >The Dog on Wheels version sounds like a passionless dirge, with flat, >naked production. It sounds like it was performed in a workman like way >by crappy session musos.. I like this naked production idea. Are all Belle and Sebastian records produced this way? Dirty devils. Sebatian said: >>Because it was.Save for the boy stuart, Belle and Sebastian were not >>in the building on that occasion, as it says in the sleeve notes. I've decided I don't believe the story that the EP was from pre-band days. I prefer to think that the band all turned up but George Martin said none of them were good enough except Stuart and the pretty boy with the kilt, so the session musicians were called in. Actually, I like both versions. The Dog on Wheels one has that lovely bit where Stuart's voice cracks on the line "she was not impressed" and also a nice flamenco feel. For those of you think there aren't enough posts to make you sigh these days, search the archives for the word 'moments' using the 'Search Subjects and Authors Only' and 'Search all Months' options. jessica wrote: >People mention this song "Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner" quite >frequently around these parts, and it makes me sad that i have no idea >what they're talking about. Actually, a lot of other song titles bounce >around here which are altogether unknown to me, too. So, um, i was >wondering if i could take this opportunity to see whether there is >anyone on this list who has songs not appearing on any of the 3 albums >or EPs or the BBC sessions who would be willing to make a tape for a >lonely little American girl? The terrible bit of it, though, is that i >don't have a lot to offer in return, other than my undying gratitude. Which I made this young boy sigh. Jessica sounds not just lonely, but also lovely. If no one over in America can help out, I will. As long as she doesn't mind that I've taped over the intro to 'Loneliness of the middle distance runner' in a horribly backfired attempt to make a back-up copy. Whoever it was who wanted the two songs identified from the concert the other night - in case no one has answered your plea they are 'Slow Graffiti' and 'Loneliness'. Oh, all right then: 'Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner'. Or HERBERTLOMDIRGE, as it is not known for short. To anyone else who is scared of asking about all these new songs, have a look at the end of Keith's nicely prepared FAQ at http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/hypermail/1998-month-09/0915.html Since then, 'Wrong Love' has been renamed 'Wrong Girl', Stuart David has written another new song 'Paper Boat', and Stuart Murdoch has written (or, as suggested by the strange "I've heard this before" spooky phenomenon" noted by two listees, stolen) a song called 'Lord Anthony'. Keith doesn't mention the Isobel solo songs (4?) that appeared on the Web (now only one left to hear) in the theatre at Stuart and Karn's Treehouse page (http://home.clara.net/treehouse/). They aren't really Belle and Sebastian songs, but then neither were the Stow College demos. Keith also can't spell 'loneliness' or 'graffiti', but we will forgive him because he's terrific in all other ways. He's like that kid at school who was good at everything and made it worse by being nice too. Bastard. I hate him. The great cover art poll turned up this amusing fact: >5) The boy with the arab strap ( no votes , nobody voted for this >cover) Tee hee. Chris smells. Right, enough tomfoolery and helpfulness. I have some questions of my own: 1. Someone (I think it was PJ, but it may have been Duncan) said they listened to the 'Black Session' ("Le rock... Le soir...C'est Lenoir!" - how cool is that slogan? Is it also a jingle, my French chums?) on FM. Sorry to to come over all 'hey can anyone burn me a CD-R' audio bore, but is this true and if so, will we people who request one from our allotted representative get a copy from the FM or the AM broadcast? 2. Was this 'session' really a very long session, or was it just a recording of the Paris concert? If it was the concert, can everyone stop calling it a session (including evil Lenoir) as it's confusing my tiny mind. 3. 'Loneliness..' is indeed a lovely song. One of my favourites, and if you don't have it, then possibly ask me (swap for a live tape or an appalling recording of 'Rhoda' anyone...?) but certainly go to http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/hypermail/1998-month-07/0831.html and read the lyrics. Oh yes - I was supposed to be asking another question. Stuart's fussiness with this track and its consequent no-show to date reminds me of a little bird telling me all about his generally obsessive streak when it comes to recording. Apparently, part of the delay on TWATTYBUS appearing was his insistence on none of the tracks being compressed prior to the final mixing stage. Or something. Can anyone tell me what this means from my garbled non-muso retelling? Could it partly explain why the records sound so wonderful? 4. Did 'Lisa helps the blind' become 'Beautiful', or is it a differnt song? 5. Apart from 'Le Pastie..', were any other early Stuart Murdoch demos ever played on local radio in Scotland? That'll do. A final observation: On Philippe's review of the Black Session on the Radio France site, it says the version of 'Poup�e de cire, Poup�e de son' was played "au grand galop". Sometimes, French is best. Nick xx _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 20:50:48 1998 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:50:48 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: Ruffled feathers. In-Reply-To: <199810100842.JAA02382@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Sat, 10 Oct 1998, kenny wrote: > ps What is the American stereotype of us English. Is it all Hugh Grant, > posh accents....... A young man with green hair, takes a big sniff from a bottle of glue, saying in a thick, Cockney accent, "When will adults learn that young people have something to contribute to society? I'm old enough to join the Navy and ---- the partner of my choice and yet I cannot drink in pubs." A woman of about 50, with white hair, handbag clutched to her chest, faints upon hearing the word "----". I kid, of course... --Mark __ October 19th: SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Mon Oct 12 20:53:33 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:53:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: julie christie, the rumors are true Message-ID: At 12:16 PM 10/12/98, Tara Widmer wrote: ><> >I think Yo La Tengo wrote a song about him? Anyway, this film, along with actually, the song is called "tom courtenay". i'm not entirely sure that it's about billy liar, it probably isn't per se. it seems to be about julie christie's either on or off-screen relationship with tom, not sure whether there was an offscreen one. i know little about the behind the scenes stuff. there's a beautiful version sung by georgia that *someone* recently taped for me, and it's become one of my favorite songs of late. and when georgia sings, the lyrics are even decipherable!!! i don't really have a lot to say right now. i'm doing a lot of filming for classes, and that seems to be ruling my life. my first one was based on an idea from photo jenny, though i'm not sure that anyone who knew the song would be able to recognize it from that. ;) last year i was walking home from class one day and i got the idea to film something having to do with lonliness of the middle distance runner. i wanted to use it as a soundtrack for a film, as it'd be much easier than doing sync sound. do you all have any idea how hard it is to sync sound up to lip movement? i get the feeling my films just will feature ventriloquists. on a related note, that isn't at all related, i love the tindersticks. i finally bought the first cd and the new b-sides collection in the past couple weeks and they're wonderful. it's like waltz music. well, to me. i seem to be the only one to get that impression, but it sounds like the music to a sort of modernist musical. i'm trying not to mix up my -ists. sorry if i sound pretentious, but i'm a college student, so i think a degree is taken care of in the tuition. xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 21:11:32 1998 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:11:32 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: Correct me if I'm wrong, but... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 10 Oct 1998, Stuart Gardiner wrote: > Erm, the songs on the DOW EP are actually older than those on Tigermilk, > and only feature half the current band and a load of session musos. All of "Dog on Wheels" certainly did sound older than IYFS anyway. I had wondered whether the drummer forgot how to keep time. It sounds as if the drummer was trying to SWING but couldn't keep it steady from one beat to the next. Definitely my least favorite release. I was pleasantly surprised when I finally heard _Tigermilk_. Did any copies of the Tigermilk LP ever make it to the US? Obviously it is much too late now, but I can't help wondering whether they were all sold by about the time "Lazy Line Painter Jane" came out. --Mark __ October 19th: SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Scott_Turner at xxx.COM Mon Oct 12 15:02:29 1998 From: Scott_Turner at xxx.COM (Scott Turner) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:02:29 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Ruffled feathers. Message-ID: <8525669B.004CD30E.00@JHMAIL.JH.COM> On 10 October at 08:43 GMT, "kenny" Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981012162216.0069ba90@beacon.eastern.edu> Nick Dastoor said in response to my little request: >Which I made this young boy sigh. Jessica sounds not just lonely, but >also lovely. If no one over in America can help out, I will. As long >as she doesn't mind that I've taped over the intro to 'Loneliness of >the middle distance runner' in a horribly backfired attempt to make a >back-up copy. What a sweet thing to say! You're making me blush. But Miss Erin has come through again and volunteered to make a tape for me. Mad props to all the non-Americans who also offered, in spite of daunting overseas postage rates. (Or maybe overseas postage is only daunting to poor college students who spend their last bit of cash on a Belle & Sebastian ticket and a pack of cloves?) I have been taping Tigermilk like mad, and you know what? It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside to know that other people will get a chance to hear these songs for the first time because of me. I was giddy for days after i first heard Tigermilk and the BBC sessions. I don't think there are too many other bands that make me tremble with excitement the way B&S do. I don't know, maybe if somebody sent me a tape of rare, unreleased Red House Painters or Sunny Day Real Estate songs i'd get unhealthily cheery too, but i'm really not sure. What is it about this band? (That was a rhetorical question. I could list lots of things about 'what it is about this band,' but i don't feel like it.) Jess "You're always looking for a sign, but boy you blow it every time. You hear a voice begin to speak; you ignore it and go softly to sleep" - Belle & Sebastian Jessica Gockley | Box 326 Eastern College | 1300 Eagle Road | St Davids, PA 19087 | 610-225-5403 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Mon Oct 12 21:41:26 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:41:26 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: PLEASE READ: message from list owner Message-ID: I'm sorry this mail is somewhat lacking in humour but you'll have heard all is not well in Honeyland. So some points you have no excuse but to read and I will assume you all have. First off, stop indulging in this pointless UK/US thread - and stop mailing the list to stop people talking about it. When I left on what I thought was a one week holiday (M.E.'s like that :), I told you two things: (a) be good, and (b) don't mail the list and tell other how to behave. It's no-one's job to do (b) but mine, and some people with the sweetest of intentions have done so, understandably in my absence, but I'm afraid it just propagates the problem and causes more discussion. No-one's allowed to argue with me :) If you think someone's being stupid ignore them, they'll hang themselves publically that way - we've seen it several times already. It's like not talking to the pissed man at the party with the silly hat on who keeps dropping peanuts and asking people if they know who invented tarmac - you just don't reply and eventually he feels silly and goes home. See? And if he's REALLY bad he just gets chucked out, but you don't have to worry about that. You're supposed to be just having fun and dancing nude on the coffee table. I've been having funny dreams lately. As for people who aren't doing (a), or people who continue to fan the flames, or people who are personally abusive in ANY way, retaliation being NO excuse: well, the way I feel just now and the time I have to do any of this is so short, that I'll have no hesitation in cutting you off from Sinister with no court of appeal, permanently, and if it gets sillier, shutting down the list. I'm sorry to all you good people out there, who vastly outnumber the people with big mouths and smaller hearts, but it's fairly clear to me who's helping and who hindering the prospects of this mailing list, and it should be clear to everyone else. You (plural) have to think when you mail something to 700 people and be careful about what it will mean to them - if you don't agree, then this list isn't for you and you can always go and make your own. So not one WORD more about this UK/US thing please, or about talking ABOUT it - just stop it now. When I left I also asked you to (c) think before you post. Some people are and some aren't and I'll repeat that now. But please don't go talking about this on the list - I know how to run a mailing list by now, and as I've said a million times, everyone else's job on this list is just to play in the sandpit and be good; and add something of themselves and their lives to what they post. Being funny helps too. And be warned that on a short and feeble fuse I will take seriously any young gun who thinks he or she can walk in and run all over this list. I'm not referring to anyone in particular here, so please don't anyone take offence; I suppose I'm just saying - don't offend some wonderful friends of mine who've been here since the beginning of the list and made it what it is. If you're new you're very welcome, but please learn how wonderfully self-regulating this list can be from the old-timers, and shhs a little if you find yourself posting more than once a day. And add CONTENT to your posts. And I'm a little biased towards anyone who gives a friend of mine a hard time just now (flash of claws, grrr) - put it down to the illness. I'm sorry this is a mean sounding email. Lots of people behind the scenes have been so kind and I've got cards and emails from lots of you sweet things - no-one's sent me any underwear yet but I'm still hopeful. But if you did ask Michele for my address, please don't just turn up naked on the doorstep - I'm prone to dizziness. And I haven't replied to all the nice people yet who have sent me things: please take this email as a huge thank you just now, and I will mail people as time allows and things get better. Things SHOULD get better now as Linda's back to make cups of tea, so I'm not relying on missions of mercy from her Mum and two useless, selfish cats who don't know how to work a tin-opener. Finally you need to just be happy bunnies - moaning about the list ON the list does no good and just lowers the tone further. Smile and bounce around. That's an order :) Oh and you could all do with following the shining example of some on this list, meeting a fellow list member (either gender will do, stop being picky), whipping off your clothes and further putting up the number of sordid Sinister liaisons that I'm filling in on my wallchart, and that make me very proud. Always the bridesmaid, me. That's it for now, I'm returning to my quilt. Please don't email me asking for things, as you won't get a reply, probably, but by all means send me non-returnable emails. You might not hear from me for a bit on the list I'm afraid as things are distinctly wobbly, unless of course you're bad in which case everything might go suddenly blank; but remember I'm watching you all like a hawk. A sexy hawk with a sniffle. bye bye for now, chums, and let's hope we can keep this thing going, honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rmuencho at xxx.DE Mon Oct 12 22:07:46 1998 From: rmuencho at xxx.DE (Orlando Munos) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 23:07:46 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Mainly Harmless! Message-ID: <36226F9E.971D815B@smail.uni-koeln.de> By the way, I'm just listening to the Cherry Poppin' Daddies, one of those, mor or less, new american swing-revival-type o' bands that are sweeping over Germany throughout the last weeks. Mainly harmless stuff, so I guess I'll just liste to a couple of Scott Walker tunes while reading a short story by Cortázar before going to sleep! (I'm only tellin' you this to find someone to talk to about 'Rayuela' in a subtle way.) -Orlando (the crispy mountain dood) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 21:58:52 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:58:52 EDT Subject: Sinister: An unfortunate farewell Message-ID: <66a3ecc7.36226d8c@aol.com> funky seb wrote: "Jake wrote lots of opinions that made lots of people shout at him. Well, that's probably all over, so I won't comment." and then he proceeded to comment: "my mate in america says everyone in new jersey, is fat, so they must be." Erm, just a tiny technical point here- NO I FUCKING DIDN'T. I have no idea where the new jersey comment originated, but it certainly wasn't from me. Look, I left the list 'cause it was clear that I was winding some people up, intentionally or otherwise, and I don't mind when people have a go at me 'cause they find what I write offensive, but I'm not going to sit back and be laid into over things that I haven''t said and certainly don't believe. I've never said anything on this list about any nationalities being fat, lazy stupid, or whatever, basically because I don't believe that, and never have. If you remember, I posted the other day on how much I loved the idea of hearing about other B&S fans on other continents. And I agree that, like Tag said: <> I don't know what I've done to Todd, to make him post this tirade of lies; all I hope is that the rest of you realise that there is no truth in that mail at all. The only thing I did say was that I'd be pretty fucked up without my local pub.And I made a shit joke about Rikki Lake's audiences being bitter deficiant. For that, I apologise. It was only an attempt to structure my e mail. You know, a running joke? Oh for goodness' sake. Todd wrote: <> well said Todd. In that case, maybe you could be so polite as to explain what the hell your post's all about in private? Rather than to 700 people who only know me by what other people write about me. I look forward to hearing your explanations. I actually unsubbed a few days ago, and I only saw this rubbish when I was looking in the digest for espadrille's address. I don't see myself re subbing, so can any fall out from this be cc'd to me? Ta. Someone who doesn't realise what a facistic, glamourous pretty boy I *obviously* am wrote: <> OK. This one's of your favourite local- where every stain means something, a place that you know you spend too much time in, but you don't regret it. The plastic wood veneer is like mahogany to you, and you know the snug better than you know your own lounge. There's an empty skip parked outside the window. And past the wilting geraniums in their shrinking earth, through the yellow net curtains, unwashed since the landlord had to go, you can just see the men coming to start work, with their sledgehammers. bye seb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rod at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 22:13:52 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 22:13:52 +0100 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Boston -- A kind of ticket for sale offer sort of thang Message-ID: Hey chaps! Miss you loads (as I'm sure you can understand), but I have a wee problem. I booked a ticket for the Boston gig next Wednesday cause I was supposed to be in the states in time for it. However, I'm currently stuck in Tillicoultry, and won't reach America until next Friday night. Anyone want this spare ticket? And have you any idea how I can transfer it to you, cause it's booked on my credit card? See ya later, Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | If I was a body, would you still wear clothes? | If I was a booger, would you blow your nose? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kellym at xxx.com Tue Oct 13 00:00:15 1998 From: kellym at xxx.com (Kelly McGuire) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:00:15 -0800 Subject: Sinister: sour times, capital times, new york times Message-ID: <199810122204.PAA13133@macbeth.ienet.com> "always eager to offer up a handshake and feeling the instinct, once again, to destroy my own happiness." its monday and i really don't feel like being in los angeles. either way, come october 30th i'll be off to new york to stare aimlessly at anyone who will be kind enough to cross my path. i still haven't found a place to stay on november 2nd and 3rd. if anyone on the list who lives somewhere reasonably close to soho/midtown/village/etc would care to put up a randomly altrusitic, sometimes artistic, generally well meaning, exceptionally tall, delightfully self-destructive boy, please email me as soon as you get a chance. i'll buy you a drink and i promise not to break anything. ok, thank you and good-day. -kelly ryan mcguire kellym at raygun.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TWidmer at xxx.com Mon Oct 12 23:10:20 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:10:20 -0700 Subject: Sinister: GEAR magazine Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF032BC19D@amerwksnt01.xil.com> There is a wee general-info profile on Belle & Sebastian in the Nov/Dec issue of Gear, "the new magazine for men". It's also got Sarah Cracknell, Irvine Welsh and lots of photos of half-nekkid starlets. If anybody would like to know what the B&S article says, please contact me privately and I'll send you a transcript. Bye FunkySeb. You will be missed. ta, tara +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Tue Oct 13 01:44:38 1998 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 17:44:38 PDT Subject: Sinister: charanga! charanga! Message-ID: <19981013004439.24552.qmail@hotmail.com> >BTW, pookie59 at hotmail.com (Stan The Man) wrote: >Stan? Stan? Has Genevieve had a sex change then? I'm devastated. ;-) devastated? rrrrrrowwww :) Well,a long time ago I used to be Hank,but I just wasn't happy you know? So my fairy godmommmma made me teenage girl and now I get to dance with kittens and sing Belle and Sebastian out on the dewy grass during the sunrise,it's all good. no no, Stan The Man is a real man ("I'm all man,baby" -Stan) just one of the many colourful characters who comes to sing and dance and bake cupcakes with me in my mudhut....there's also Lurleen,but she's too trashy,you know..she has bad thoughts about keith and his lyrca bodysuit and wheat berries,so we had to get her to leave. wow,volunteering get's you free stuff..i got a all these old vinyls with REJECTED stamped on them...one's called LOVELY THANG sugar sugar,i'm going to be a dj in my mudhut watch your ass fatboy slim! kiss kiss,you lovely thangs Genevieve (not Stan) Happy Thanksgiving!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kschaffe at xxx.edu Tue Oct 13 03:33:28 1998 From: kschaffe at xxx.edu (Schaffenberger) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: NYC Meet-Up Nov. 1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 Mphintz at aol.com wrote: > > The NYC shows are coming closer and closer, much to everyone's delight. We > have planned a meet-up before the show so we can place faces to email > addresses and meet new people. > > Please join us at Bryant Park, behind the New York City Public Library, at 6 > pm. on November 1. The Supper Club is just a few blocks away from the park. Should we all wear some sort of name badges or gold stars or fluffy bunny stickers to differentiate the Sinisters from the non-Sinisters at the show? I will be flying into NYC on the afternoon of the show, where I will be met by my LIST CRUSH! (Perhaps some of you remember that my list crush and I finally met in person in NYC this summer, he being from Pennsylvania and I from Texas. Things went smashingly well, as though we were meant to be together, etc. etc. This will be our second Stuart David and Karn-esque meet-up. If any of you are music journalists, I think this is a damn good hook for the fanatic nature of Belle and Seb fans and, consequently, a review of the show. We did, after all, make a pact to see B&S whenever and wherever they played on US soil... It's almost unbelievable and ridiculous, yes?) In any case, Hans, my list crush, (who, incidentally, isn't even on the list anymore) and I plan to attend the show, but we are uncertain as to whether we will attend the pre-concert meet-up. Still, I'd like to meet as many of you as humanly possible at the Supper Club. I will be wearing a blue and white snowflaked cardigan (yes, I've thought about this show so much, I even know what I'm wearing...). I'll be the tallish girl with the chin length blonde hair. I'll be with the easy-to-spot 6'4" blonde fellow who looks a little like me. We'll be (hypothetically, unless something goes terribly wrong) grinning deleriously at one another, looking quite pathetic but cute... Ummm... so yeah, how should Sinisterines distinguish themselves at the show?? My signature, below, certifies that I have thought about this post, its content, etc. before sending it. I think my story is darn good. XOXO, Kristen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mphintz at xxx.com Tue Oct 13 04:50:17 1998 From: Mphintz at xxx.com (Mphintz at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 23:50:17 EDT Subject: Sinister: DC Lodgers Message-ID: <90a13e39.3622cdf9@aol.com> Does anyone in Washington DC have a nook or a spare bookshelf that four travelers from NYC could spend the night in? Brian, Megan, Mick, and I are travelling down Friday for the show, and need a place to stay for the night, before we dash back up to NYC and the shows there. Actually, just a place for Brian and I would be fine--Megan and Mick can stay in the car for the night and "guard" it. (As long as they don't steam up the windows. Oo-er). Please reply privately to Mphintz at aol.com Living and loving Matthew +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sburon at xxx.fr Tue Oct 13 08:39:34 1998 From: sburon at xxx.fr (Stephane Buron) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:39:34 +0200 Subject: Sinister: The State to come all over References: <19981012194657.13210.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: <362303B5.1367@club-internet.fr> Nick Dastoor wrote about the recent session on the french radio : > 2. Was this 'session' really a very long session, or was it just a > recording of the Paris concert? If it was the concert, can everyone > stop calling it a session (including evil Lenoir) as it's confusing my > tiny mind. This was a *real* radio session : broadcast live, 1 hour or so... The only difference with BBC sessions is the audience : when you're lucky enough to get an invitation, you can go and see the session at "La Maison de la Radio", in Paris : there are about 200 people sitting quietly in comfortable blue armchairs during the broadcast. If you search the archives, you'll find the set list I posted a few days ago on the list :-))) The gig in Paris was the day after the session at La Cigale, a very crowdy venue where we stood (except the lazy David and Katrina, who preferred sitting upstairs!!). Different setlist, different audience, different state of mind, different atmosphere, everything was different... That's why we could see Belle and Sebastian twice in Paris... Lovely, isnt it??? That's it, take care Stephane PS : Sorry but I have to ask two private questions : Niall, are you back on the list? Nik (not you, Nick, the other, you remember, in Leeds?), have you received my messages? -- Visitez le Tweeclub sur http://www.chez.com/tweeclub "I had a job in an office once, I never talked to anyone..." Belle and Sebastian, Pocketbook Angel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Oct 13 10:24:55 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:24:55 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Little Bobby: A Ventriloquist's Tale Message-ID: <01bdf68b$56d79d20$LocalHost@itjfvkli> BB: How yer diddlin'? Tonight, ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to tell you about my days as a disc jockey in the early days of the famous Schoooooom club in London. I'm sure you've all heard of it.. LB: (knock knock!) Let me out! BB: Oh I'm terribly sorry ladies and gentlemen...no I will not let you out, Little Bobby, you ruined it last time! Now where was I? Oh yes, the Schooooooooom club. Dancing was a popular activity there even before I discovered so-called "house" music... LB: (knock knock!) Let me out! BB: Excuse me, ladies and gentlemen...will you be quiet, Little Bobby, you have to go and spoil everything I do, don't you? Let me see...ah yes, one day I was playing a house record when I accidentally spilled some toothpaste on it, thus inadvertently, inadveeeeeeertently inventing acid hou... LB: (knock knock!) Let me out! Let me out! BB: What now! You're ruining me anecdote! I'm sorry ladies and gentlemen, but I'm going to have to let him out of the suitcase. I do apologise... LB: Thank fuck for that, you rotten bugger! Thou shalt not call fat people "fat" on the list - "chubbily challenged" is an appropriate alternative. Fifty people with eating disorders on the list? I've got a seafood disorder, me - when I see food, I disorder it! Aaaargh! Gerroff, ya big fat bugger, I'm not going back in that suitcase, ya scouse twat, bleeeeurgh, I'll scream and scream and scream until I make meself sick! (muffled) Let me out! Let me out! I'm sorry about that, back to business: 1. Someone (I think it was PJ, but it may have been Duncan) said they listened to the 'Black Session' ("Le rock... Le soir...C'est Lenoir!" - how cool is that slogan? Is it also a jingle, my French chums?) on FM. Sorry to to come over all 'hey can anyone burn me a CD-R' audio bore, but is this true and if so, will we people who request one from our allotted representative get a copy from the FM or the AM broadcast? That was from Nick Dastoor. I sahll now provide him with a kind of answer, politely and pleasantly, as is the required manner of going about things on our beloved list: Yes, Nicholas, twas me who showed off about hearing it on FM, crystal clear, bell-like and beautiful. However, due to a strange unearthly high pitched whine, I felt compelled to press the little "mono" button, but it still sounded great. Mono rocks, everybody knows that. I taped it, but I haven't offered to tape it for all and sundry for two reasons: 1) PhiLiPPe seems to have it covered and he's got two more songs than me. Mine's got the news on, which is no bad thing in my opinion, because "Monica Lewinsky" is an even more attractive proposition in French, the language of love. 2) I am a bastard, a bugger, and a cad. I'm sending one to a once prominent listee, because I love him and want to marry him, but that's all so far. I'd be only too happy to do it for anyone who really needs it, and unlike PhiLiPPe, I'd be prepared to accept huge wads of cash in return. I'm very slow, as my tape recipients know only too well, so don't hold your breasts. Nick again: 2. Was this 'session' really a very long session, or was it just a recording of the Paris concert? If it was the concert, can everyone stop calling it a session (including evil Lenoir) as it's confusing my tiny mind. It was like a special concert for the radio, with an audience, comments from Bernard during the gaps between the songs (lengthy as ever), and lots of communiction between Murdoch and Bernard, along the lines of: SM:- are we on? BL:- Yes, you are on. And that song with a funny name was indeed taken "au grand galop", a bit like a psycho synth pop version of The Flashing Blade, in fact. I'M GOING NOW BYE! Peter PS: It's about time we had a European Tour Diary from Stuart Lee Murdoch, dontcha think? PPS: Does anybody know anything about Andy Gibb? I know he's dead, but that's all. Poor Keith must be working very hard on his Twisted Wheel book, because he has so far failed to point out that I had a Teddy Pendergrass song all along, courtesy of Keith. "Love TKO" it's called, how very Keith!. I like Harold Melvin and the Bluenotes, that song's a Procter and Gamble production, isn't it? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Tue Oct 13 11:05:51 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:05:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: It's another love P.O.P. Message-ID: <01BDF699.70FA6850.keith@qss.co.uk> >PPS: Does anybody know anything about Andy Gibb? I know he's dead, but >that's all. Poor Keith must be working very hard on his Twisted Wheel book, >because he has so far failed to point out that I had a Teddy Pendergrass >song all along, courtesy of Keith. "Love TKO" it's called, how very Keith!. >I like Harold Melvin and the Bluenotes, that song's a Procter and Gamble >production, isn't it? Oh yes, Teddy Pendergrass, Love TKO, what a class track, he rules on that one, it's ace. Whilst on the subject of Teddy Pendergrass, it reminded me of what Tag said about how Limahl used to be shacked up with the only other world's leading authority on popular music (the other being the Duke), Paul Gambaccini. Can anyone confirm this? I was pleased to have the Captain Birdseye's a woman myth blown out of the water, although admittedly I've been thinking about that, and I'm now convinced that the old Captain Birdseye, was in fact a sheep! I've got a cracking selection of albums with me at work today, Stormbringer, by John and Beaverly Martin - as recommender by the lists very own Martin Coneeeeely, although I don't know if he's still on the list, Blaxploitation 1, A Grand Love Story, by Kid Loco - featuring a cracking Captain Beefheart sample from the great "Further than we've gone", goes down in my book as the most odd sample source I've ever heard. The Three EP's by the Beta Band, which is miles miles better than 4 Big Speakers, by Whale, showing once and for all, that 3 is a better number than 4. It's a magic number after all. I got the best of the Orb - U.F.Off, which is top too, and contains numerous ace mixes that I haven't heard before, like for example, the OOBE (Pool Mix), which in a charming ambient manner contains nothing but the sound of pool balls being knocked into pockets. It's all getting a bit hairy on the list of late, and as Reid wisely and funnily pointed out, Insults are insulting, which is very true, so lets just pack it up now shall we, I'm a lover not a fighter, so let's all just make up our differences and have a pop concert instead. Which brings me on to - the next big list get together. We've fucked all the plans over properly and decided just to have a big party in Glasgow - over New Year. In fact, it'll probably be a New Year party, followed by a subsequent party the night after - which is a Saturday, albeit probably a quiet Saturday. So chaps, it's Glasgow at New Year, be there or be somewhere else. We'll work out an actual venue in a bit, but that's really irrelevant, we're all hoping to have a real weekender job at Butlins sometime next year, and if that happens, hopefully we'll get the news out in plenty of time. I've been wondering of late what the update on the Duke's book is - Mr.Fitchett - do we have the word on this? When's it coming out? I think you should change the title to "Young and Foolish (but right)". I'm looking forward to reading it. I miss young Timothy H!O!P!kins. Can't he just go and buy a computer and get an internet account at home? Cheers, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Tue Oct 13 11:47:10 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:47:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Sticking up for Dog on Wheels Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22289E8E@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Sorry? Dog on Wheels is Mark Kolmar's least favourite release?? Madness! The title track is the most lovelorn and poignant song ever, regardless of who played on it (does that make it more worthless in anyone's eyes?), and it's also got String Bean Jean and Belle and Sebastian on it!! I agree that B&S isn't their most sophisticated moment, but I bet you that for most of the list it holds a special place in their hearts. And String Bean Jean - my god, that song rocks my proverbial; apart from Le Pastie, which rescues the relatively disappointing 3,6,9...EP, it's the song I most look forward to hearing in the world at the moment. The State I'm in demo is a bit unnecessary and poor, in my opinion, but it's a nice curio to have, I suppose. Anyone who hasn't voted for their fave tunes, by the way, should do so at the booth the B&S site on Jeepster. Especially if you like Chick Factor, which is languishing, embarrassedly, beneath Hurley's having dreams... So there you go. A totally B&S posting for a change. Kisses, Markx p.s. Todd, I'm looking forward to the dancing girls. You've promised now, so no backing out...Are they fellow listees too? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Tue Oct 13 13:48:35 1998 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetryplace2) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:48:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: O Lucky Man! Message-ID: <199810131246.NAA24087@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> YINGLUCK I was gone but now I'm back. I've actually been working double shifts at work, in order to repay the gambling debts incurred during Oooon's visit a while ago. She's a demon at that Boggle, I'm telling you. I still owe her all my wages until easter and the liver of my first-born son. First things first: THE LONELINESS OF THE LONG-DISTANCE PHONE CALL This Friday (16th October) sees an extra-special episode of the Social at the Poetry Caff, because we have managed to get top antipodean popsters The Lucksmiths to play, fresh from supporting B&S in Europe. For those of you who haven't yet had the pleasure to hear them, they are a fabulous, shimmering pop confection, full of smiles and similes, subtleties and subtitles. They are the loveliest thing I have heard all year. To state the bleeding obvious, if you drew a line between The Go-Betweens and Belle & Sebastian, The Lucksmiths would be dancing around on it, without a safety net, carrying a funny-looking umbrella. To miss this show you would have to be a damned bloody fool with the aesthetic sensibilities of a packhorse. IMHO, of course. Doors open 7.30. Entry £3. The Poetry Cafe, 22 Betterton St, Covent Garden, London WC2. BASHO STREET KIDS Thankyou to everyone who entered my fabulous haiku competition. After much deliberation I have decided upon three winners, who each receive a goody bag of stuff from my sack of books. The first winner is the ineffably lovely Miss Erin who charmed me with this entry: Why does Isobel wear vile capri pants? To hide blue veins, blue, blue veins The second winner is the mysterious Jennifer Phillips-Bacher: love tools abound here simple souls introduced to my english cock cage The third winner is Mr John Johnston for this effort: Mr Sparkly Orange Loves things Scandinavian Hates us being twee. And finally, for sheer persistence, we have a special prize for Adrian Evans, who sent me about 20 entries... If all the winners send me their postal addresses, I will turn up naked on their doorsteps. Only joking! I will send you your prizes. FOR THE LOVES OF CHEESES I read with interest the debate about Scandinavian cheese. While I have no reason to doubt McTaggart's recommendations, I would like to warn you away from Norwegian Brown Cheese, which has a consistency midway between peanut butter and putty. A MAN COULD LOSE HIMSELF IN LONDON! LOSE HIMSELF! Megan was going on about some song about Julie Christie. There are a couple of others: firstly it is widely thought that the "Terry and Julie" in Waterloo Sunset are Terence Stamp and Julie Christie, who were starring in some Polanski version of Thomas Hardy at the time. Secondly, Stephen Duffy's song "Julie Christie", despite being recorded by an ex-member of Duran Duran, is a thing of loveliness. thankyou for having me Trousers xxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snorman at xxx.uk Tue Oct 13 14:29:28 1998 From: snorman at xxx.uk (Sam Norman) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:29:28 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: misheard lyrics - about an arguement Message-ID: I have just spent the last 45 minutes argueing with someone that the words to Get me Away... are in fact "photogenic you know" rather than "photogenic eunochs" he claimed that the eunochs were a reference to Blackadder. I was wondering if there are any other funny misheard lyrics that might loghten my boredom? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Tue Oct 13 15:04:55 1998 From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:04:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Keep that cardigan on, young lady (but you can keep nibbiling if you like...) Message-ID: <015001bdf6b2$74b82a40$4429c22b@bond.broadcast> >You're supposed to be >just having fun and dancing nude on the coffee table. > Oh and you could all do with >following the shining example of some on this list, meeting a fellow >list member (either gender will do, stop being picky), whipping off >your clothes and further putting up the number of sordid Sinister >liaisons that I'm filling in on my wallchart, and that make me very >proud Just what kind of list is this? What would our mothers think if they knew the kind of depravity we were being encouraged to take part in? Well, if we must. I don't have a coffee table, but I'll do a little nude dance in my room tonight. As for getting nudey and putting up the number (never heard it called that before) with a list member - well, the only list members I've actually met are Local Hero Kevan and Basingstoke Boy Neil. Kevan has a lovely girlfriend who just about puts up with his CD addiction, but I can't see her being happy with him being another notch Honey's wallchart, and as for Neil... Well look, I'm sorry for being picky, but I like my sordid liaisons to be with girls. As I said before, tall, elegant, rich girls. Michael 'ItsNoWonderI'mSingle' Barrett +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rewb2 at xxx.uk Tue Oct 13 15:34:55 1998 From: rewb2 at xxx.uk (rob b) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:34:55 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: the boy with the bearded yak Message-ID: Hello all! it's been a long time since i last posted, at least a couple of months or so. since then there has been much going on in the world of belle and sebastian - i won't give my opinion on each little detail because that will bore everyone. just to say that the new album is, as expected, simply gorgeous. favourite track?... ooh, most of them. we bought it in florence this summer, during a month long trip around europe - one thing that's puzzling me though.. it doesn't seem to start quite right; it's as if stuart starts mid-sentence, with 'stroke at the age of 24', no sign of 'he had a...'. is that the same with everyone's cd, or just the virgin europe released ones? i was in my local record market the other day, and guess what i stumbled across? Yes, a copy of Tigermilk! BUT, it was on CD! at £14.00 - i thought "hmmm..." and went up to the stall-owner and asked him about it. he said something along the lines of "oh yeah, we had a stack load of them in - that's the last copy, they've been going like hot cakes." the cover wasn't quite like the original - it had 4 pictures of the original record sleeve in multicolour, and there were bonus tracks after the album, which were the 2 radcliffe / lamarr sessions. i remember someone else mentioning something like this - how widespread is it? 'cos as the band get bigger, people pay more attention to them, giving an ideal market for illegal copies... but you know all this already. i just hope it gets its proper release soon. what i found quite amusing as well, was that on the actual cd itself, it said something about rights to the producers and that you shouldn't copy, lend, broadcast, or in any way infringe the copyright laws. seems a touch hypocritical to me! anyway, onto happier things. the salako gig! wow, i hope to be there if it's at all possible. anyway, i won't clog up your inboxes with any more meaningless drivel, so shall leave you in peace and get back to work! byebye rob x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- + / \ St Theresa's calling her | O | The church up on the hill _______| _ | Is looking lovely / / /\ | __| \/. But it doesn't interest /_/\_//_/||##| ;\|/' The only thing she wants to know __|_||_|||_||##|_____|_ Is how and why and when and where to go If you're feeling sinister... Belle and Sebastian ------------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Tue Oct 13 15:37:51 1998 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 07:37:51 PDT Subject: Sinister: Hoboken the sky with diamonds Message-ID: <19981013143752.15071.qmail@hotmail.com> I would take offense to the New Jersey comments if they were not true. It is no coincidence that it costs nothing to take the George Washington Bridge from New York =to= New Jersey but it costs four (or more, who knows by now) dollars to go the other way, i.e. to get out of NJ..... it should be free if you're going to Long Island, though, imhuo. And yes, Bayonne, New Jersey has the highest incidence of obesity in these United States. On the other hand I got that fact out of Mad Magazine eight years ago so it might be a bit fishy/out of date. The only Northern Soul comp I could find around here was "Northern Soul Spectrum" (on Kent) about a year-plus ago which has a ton of tracks, some of which are godly, most of which I don't care about, but I don't know if it gets any better because it's not as if these things are exactly radio classics around here. I just have nothing to compare against. There are entire major labels built around you fancying someone on a record sleeve. I, myself, almost bought the Jennifer Love Hewitt album (!!) yesterday before catching myself thinking of rubbing on the Neutrogena with fresh young JLH ditties in my head, at which point I screamed and dropped my pants and ran home and threw on the ugliest Prolapse song I could find. Whew! By the way, do not listen to Miss Wise. Folks like her are in fact only about .0000001 percent of the U.S.'s population. The rest of us are all on line to appear on Springer et Lake. The only thing I've ever ordered from TV was "Too Hot for TV" and I am counting the seconds until I get to share with the rest of the affiliated universe that "It's either me or the dog or your mother.... choose me or lose me!" Oooh, I could use a makeover too.... hey, do you all know that 95% of Jenny Jones makeovers involves putting Goth teens into the cutest little =cardigans=?? (By the way, I'm of the opinion that that, and not the A-Team, is the most brutal show on Earth - you're ugly so we'll change everything you like about yourself). Aren't we all the well-adjusted ones. I feel like a dork. I convinced my sister to lose fifty pounds by telling her she could be bitter about the way the race regards fat people or play the game while she's young because she's not going to change it. I mean, she was really bitter. Now I just make cracks about how skinny she is. "You may have no ass, but you got a big f-'in mouth!" She can't win but she sure does hook up a whole lot more. Oh, and she smiles, because she knows better. I don't think you'll ever really paint the fat-person bitterness streak out of her, the loneliness of the no-distance runner. God she's hot now. We should get it on, live, on television, I say. Heh heh. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Tue Oct 13 17:51:36 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:51:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Sorry Honey Message-ID: <199810131655.RAA26876@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Dearest Honey, I owe you a huge apology because I openned my sarcastic mouth (for you see I have many mouths, and I am now using the grovelling one) without thought of who would get upset. I didn't mean it but the list weren't to know and I have now learnt my lesson. And I promise only B&S out of me on the list from now on. I love the music too, blah blah blah, and would now love to move on and forget about this whole sorry incedent. Have you already got your name down on Duke's "I'll do you a session tape" list? If not may I please do you a copy when I get with as the smallest gesture of apology. Love Jake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Tue Oct 13 18:07:31 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:07:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Shit. Message-ID: <199810131705.SAA28231@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> If that message, came up on everyones email. Sorry, I made the age old mistake of sending his mail to you all, Sorry if it did, ignore me if it didn't. Anyway back to almost buying a crap album purely for the cover, (in reference to the Jenifer Love Hewitt album) I was up in London so I thought that I would pop into the hugest HMV and see what they had. I found "Let the Snakes...." by Felt (sorry this is really stupid but are all the felt albums purely instrumentals?) and bought it for £6 because of Stu M's tshirt at Sheperds bush. I was paying for it at the counter and I saw an album lying there. It was so funny I nearly bought it........... It was by a bloke called something like Alexi Lalas, he played for Usa in the 94 world cup, he was the one with the dodgy goatie. There he was on the cover stroaking his beard, I burst out laughing and the poor girl behind the counter just didn't have a clue. Oh the album was called GINGER, just in case you were wondering. Jake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Scott_Turner at xxx.COM Tue Oct 13 18:34:28 1998 From: Scott_Turner at xxx.COM (Scott Turner) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:34:28 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Shit. Message-ID: <8525669C.00602091.00@JHMAIL.JH.COM> On 13 October at 17:07 GMT, "kenny" Message-ID: At 9:29 -040010/13/98, Sam Norman wrote: [I have just spent the last 45 minutes argueing with someone that the [words to Get me Away... are in fact "photogenic you know" rather than ["photogenic eunochs" he claimed that the eunochs were a reference to [Blackadder. [ [I was wondering if there are any other funny misheard lyrics that might [loghten my boredom? well, there was the midget one someone mentioned (me and the major). -kerry "i'm trying to find my way home. and i'm sorry. and i miss you. i miss you." -slint +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nmg20 at xxx.uk Tue Oct 13 20:32:07 1998 From: nmg20 at xxx.uk (Nick Grundy) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:32:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Lalas In-Reply-To: <8525669C.00602091.00@JHMAIL.JH.COM> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19981013203207.007acaf0@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk> At 13:34 13/10/98 -0400, Scott Turner wrote: > >Do you think Lexi (Winey?)might be duking it out with David Beckham >(Tantrum?) to be the new Spice Girl? Without wishing to turn this into a footie list, Lalas is quite a funny guy. Before USA v. Iran in the World Cup he did a TV interview where some hack asked him whether he thought there was anything else riding on the game because of the political enmity between the two countries. Lalas replied, absolutely straight-faced, that he thought it was the single most important match in the history of the world, and that the fate of the known universe depended on the outcome. I laughed, anyway... Nick. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Tue Oct 13 20:43:00 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid Dossinger) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:43:00 -0400 Subject: Sinister: How can we make love if we can't make amends? Message-ID: <3623AD44.C4CD2D09@bigfoot.com> It's so nice to see everyone kissing and making up. I see that in all of our hearts reverberate those words of wisdom, "How can we be lovers if we can't be friends?" Indeed. C'mere and give us a hug. I'm getting so excited for the shows coming up that I can barely see straight. It looks as though they play a different set every night and have just about every song they've ever done ready to go. Which is great, considering that I'm going to two shows. Now, I've heard that they've been playing the sessions version of "Lazy Line Painter Jane", but what about "Sleep the Clock Around"? Do they play it like it is on the album, or do they do it up more like the sessions version? So, obviously, I'll be the dork at the front at the DC and Athens shows writing the set list onto my arms. In permanent marker. To be tattooed in after the show. Something I've been meaning to share with you all (and I'm sure you've been anxious to hear it) is my personal entry into the "misheard lyrics" book, that someday will sell millions, and dammit, I want a cut. In "Seymour Stein", I always thought that "I heard dinner went well" was "I heard Dylan wail", as though it was Seymour Stein going on about all the famous people he knew Way Back When. And I would also like to place my vote in the non-existant poll that I prefer "North of Scotland has he seen" to "Has he ever seen Dundee". Sure, the Dundee line gets the point across better, but the Scotland line is a little more poetic I think. And I have a doctorate in poetry. And by "have", I mean "don't have". And the "He reminded you of Johnny..." is *obviously* a reference to Johnny Rotten before he went into PIL, which is obvious because Chris remind EVERYBODY of Johnny Rotten. Just kidding...it's really about Johnny Polonsky and his rumored electronic album. The infamous Kenny was known to remark: > I was paying for it at the counter and I saw an > album lying there. It was so funny I nearly bought it........... > > It was by a bloke called something like Alexi Lalas, he played for Usa in > the 94 world cup, he was the one with the dodgy goatie. > I can't believe they're selling that in the UK, too. I can't even believe they're selling it in the U.S. Hell, I can't really believe they're selling it. It's apparently "alt-rock". What a shocker. Not that there was any danger of me buying it in the first place, but that pretty much killed all curiosity. The funny thing (brace yourself) is that that album was released on the same day as Shaquille O'Neal's new one. Two very different kinds of crap from two very different kinds of sports stars. Liberate your delete button! Seven weeks of boring nonsense, Reid +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From akemi at xxx.com Tue Oct 13 21:10:27 1998 From: akemi at xxx.com (Nicole A. Sakai) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:10:27 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Look homeward, angel Message-ID: <3623B3B2.A647B75C@seanet.com> I am very excited to be tapped into the world of Belle & Sebastian or at least be a bit more connected to others with love and hate and passions just like mine... (thank you moz). I'm really hoping to get over to N.Y. for the show. I'm in Seattle, WA now, but as the fates have it work places me in that time zone for that weekend. Hope to see everyone there. Jacob +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chigger88 at xxx.com Tue Oct 13 21:12:47 1998 From: chigger88 at xxx.com (Burt Reynolds) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:12:47 PDT Subject: Sinister: Sinister--AIRyans Message-ID: <19981013201247.16552.qmail@hotmail.com> Sorry to abuse this list for sameless capitalism... Remember how excited the list was a few months ago about Air? Well, they're here in San Francisco! Tonight! I had a friend cancel so I have one extra ticket. I will part with it for Ten dollars. That's a five dollar savings to you! PLEASE email me privately if you are interested. Rachael Bristol chigger88 at hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gaviston at xxx.com Tue Oct 13 21:44:46 1998 From: gaviston at xxx.com (Todd Beatty) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:44:46 PDT Subject: Sinister: Re: An unfortunate farewell Message-ID: <19981013204446.9048.qmail@hotmail.com> i made a big mistake yesterday in my post to the list. while trying to be humorous and ease the feelings of bitterness between people, i stated that seb said people in new jersey are fat. that was wrong. very, very wrong. seb didn't say that, and now he's upset. and rightly so. at this time i'd like to publicly apologize to mr. funky seb, honey and whoever else i may have offended with my un-thought out, haphazard verbiage. this is the last thing i wanted to happen. i've made an ass out of myself. now i'll go sit in the corner. you can now hit me all about with rotten fruit and such. todd (embarrassing myself in front of 700 people is even worse than the time i loudly broke wind while sitting next to a pretty girl in third grade) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From akumulator at xxx.com Tue Oct 13 21:45:17 1998 From: akumulator at xxx.com (paul dean) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:45:17 EDT Subject: Sinister: MEEEESTER SHAAARRRR----RACK Message-ID: <19981013204518.13198.qmail@hotmail.com> On A Julie Christie tip She was & indeed is the epitome of loveliness & regarding the song list about her, add 'Julie Christie' by jangling pop no-hopers 'The Driscolls' from ohh about 1988. It's all about that special look she perfected in Billy Liar & Darling where she just looks at her beau in a half innocent half super sultry way & the whole cinema melts. she was even lovely in all those films with horrible Warren Beatty.... i'm going now.....still no tickets for November1 =-( Paul. + little twisterella, hasn't got a fella + ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rj23 at xxx.com Tue Oct 13 21:53:47 1998 From: rj23 at xxx.com (R. O. Jenkins) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:53:47 -0500 Subject: Sinister: mishearing Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981013155347.0079e7e0@pop.a001.sprintmail.com> The best part of hearing it "Me and the midget" is the line "Me and the midget don't see eye to eye...". Yes, I made this mistake and laughed and laughed until singing it for someone else (whose tape it actually was) and then they laughed at me. Sad. But this was a year ago and I'm over it now. Really. rj. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From BOYBOUTOWN at xxx.com Tue Oct 13 22:16:36 1998 From: BOYBOUTOWN at xxx.com (BOYBOUTOWN at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:16:36 EDT Subject: Sinister: Julie Christie. Message-ID: hey. i was watching Fahrenheit 451 on Bravo today- with none other than JC. that is all. Re at dy Ste at dy Edd!e. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Gareth at xxx.uk Tue Oct 13 22:23:42 1998 From: Gareth at xxx.uk (Gareth Probert) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:23:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Hello everyone... Message-ID: <3623C4DE.5774D096@probert-edi.compulink.co.uk> Won't have have heard from me before, but that doesn't change anything between us?.... Right, now that that is over with, I will never introduce myself again! Been a fairly shitty day here in Derby, only enlightened by the strange rantings of a space boy's dream (as I grogilly woke, it was really quite strange!). Best part of the day by far is sitting gazing at my computer screen with a cup of coffee reading the input from all of you out there... I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to form the chord D#11/A# on the guitar as it is in Here I Go by Syd Barrett and I really have no idea what it is.... obviously if you could sent it to me privately at the above address I would be *eternally* grateful.. (is that how you spell it or is it greatful.. I just don't know) Also, if anyone would like to know the chords to The Model by The Warm Jets then let me know as I have just finished working them out and I want to share them with the world! Well, must sign off.. Be seeing you... Bye... Gareth Probert +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p_cains at xxx.com Tue Oct 13 23:05:43 1998 From: p_cains at xxx.com (paul cains) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:05:43 PDT Subject: Sinister: French session. Message-ID: <19981013220543.27228.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi all, Has anyone out there got a copy of the French radio session that they would be willing to trade for some really nice photographs of Belle and Sebastian. I took the photographs at union chappell and the oxford zodiac and there are some really nice ones. Cheers, Paul. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lapis at xxx.edu Wed Oct 14 00:12:58 1998 From: lapis at xxx.edu (dave cohen) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 19:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: OT: beautiful south on VH-1 Message-ID: <199810132312.TAA27092@pobox.upenn.edu> hullo sorry for the offtopic nature of this... can any uk-listmember tape the following off VH-1 (UK only) 12.00 - 13.00 10 of the best from TBS 13.00 - 13.30 Greatest hits of TBS 19.00 - 19.30 Greatest hits of TBS 22.00 - 23.00 TBS Live 23.00 - 24.00 10 of the best from TBS no need to tape shows that repeat. broadcast is Oct. 15 please email me directly so we can work out details (ie what i'd send you) now back to your regularly scheduled cheers --dave lapis at pobox.upenn.edu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Wed Oct 14 00:27:04 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 19:27:04 -0400 Subject: Sinister: mishearing In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981013155347.0079e7e0@pop.a001.sprintmail.com> Message-ID: At 16:53 -040010/13/98, R. O. Jenkins wrote: [The best part of hearing it "Me and the midget" is the line "Me and the [midget don't see eye to eye...". Yes, I made this mistake and laughed and [laughed until singing it for someone else (whose tape it actually was) and [then they laughed at me. Sad. But this was a year ago and I'm over it now. [Really. [ [rj. ever since someone mentioned that "me and the midget" thing every time i listen to it i can't help but sing along as if it really was "midget" and not "major." and i must admit, the part about not seeing eye to eye is fucking hilarious that way. pardon my foul language. thank you. -kerry "i'm trying to find my way home. and i'm sorry. and i miss you. i miss you." -slint +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Wed Oct 14 00:54:44 1998 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:54:44 PDT Subject: Sinister: lovin' it,praise them,praise them Message-ID: <19981013235445.22510.qmail@hotmail.com> >Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:39:13 +0000 >From: "Barry Newton" >Subject: Re: Sinister: we are the world, we are the children >The last acceptable prejudice is actually racism towards the English >(*not* British, we all know through Hollywood that every Irish, >Scots, and Welsh person is an angel personified), as witnessed in >every American film from the last 15 years portraying the >English as criminals, perverts, scum, and brainless toffs. >Leave out the shallow bit, and this is true! At least, it is for >me and the other pub-lovers on the list. > >Anyone fancy a pint? ahhhh no,no i think british people (and scottish and welsh and irish)(and croations! Davor Suker!) are lovely....(do you hear that Yogun Fruz Man? I lovvvvve you)yum You're all so beautiful,i could listen to them speak all day long!! oh sigh,fat skinny who cares... (especially dem footballers!...yes that's how i picture you..running throught fields of daisies in shiny shorts and knee socks,or grass skirts ,going 'fancy a pint love? i'm going to talk to me mates!') oh it's been a long day,phhhhhhhht xxxxxxxxx genevieve p.s my grandmama is American and she is the MOST wonderful person in the world ever. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TFertig3 at xxx.com Wed Oct 14 00:59:32 1998 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 19:59:32 EDT Subject: Sinister: Behold the power of Cheese Message-ID: Hello you wonderful 734, Thanks very much for all the cheese suggestions, I haven't been able to get my hands on any as of yet though. Only basic cheese like gouda and edam, and feta and cheddar. And parmesan. Am I making you hungry (rhetorical question)? Cheese is good conversation material. Like talking about the weather. All this talk about unreleased songs has made me a bit jealous. I don't have any of them besides Tigermilk and the 2 Radcliffe sessions. I resisted in the past from bombarding the list with this enquiry, but since everyone's getting on each other's nerves anyway, I thought I might as well have a go at it. SO! could anybody tape me the unreleased songs, like Rhoda, Lonliness of Middle Distance Runner, Pocketbook Angel, Slow Graffiti, etc.?? I could offer something extraordinary in return. EXTRAORDINARY! I hope that caught your eye. Now I better think of something extraordinary. Bye bye, Tami. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From oxygen at xxx.edu Wed Oct 14 00:59:14 1998 From: oxygen at xxx.edu (sad tomato) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:59:14 -0700 Subject: Sinister: brown cheese, brown cheese Message-ID: <199810132359.QAA04068@uclink.berkeley.edu> oh hello. you all dont know me. my name is robin, and i am a young girl who currently resides in berkeley, california, usa, and who plans on getting out of here as soon as i finish my degree. i know you all have stopped discussing the merits of various cheeses, but in reply to a man (?) who calls himself (herself?) "Trousers" i shall have to laud the norwegian brown cheese. >FOR THE LOVES OF CHEESES > >I read with interest the debate about Scandinavian cheese. While I have no >reason to doubt McTaggart's recommendations, I would like to warn you away >from Norwegian Brown Cheese, which has a consistency midway between peanut >butter and putty. > if i am right i believe you are talking about gjetost cheese, a cheese my boyfriend has the utmost trouble in pronouncing. but he also can't pronouce "autechre" correctly. look at us dumb americans! (that's self-deprecating humor and applies only to myself and my boyfriend, and not to various sensitive listers.) this cheese is amazing because it an orangey-brown colour and feels like clay in one's mouth. it has a lovely, sweet, buttery taste, also. if any of you feel so inclined to drop acid, gjetost cheese and a big long hunk of sweet bread is a nice accompaniment to your hallucinations. who would have thought my first post would be about cheese. also, i really enjoy reading the heated arguments about new jerseyites and sussexites and who's sense of humor is right, and everything. not that i would enjoy reading it every day, but thank you for making my life a half percentage more interesting. does anyone else place sid meier's civilization? does anyone else name their cities in this game after belle and sebastian songs? ignore me if you want to, robin. Blood oranges grow well in Florida, but they frighten American women. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From j_fogel at xxx.EDU Wed Oct 14 01:02:31 1998 From: j_fogel at xxx.EDU (j_fogel) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:02:31 -0400 Subject: Sinister: just checking.... Message-ID: <01J2XN7BNWQU0001H4@WESLEY.IT.EMERSON.EDU> hey, sorry to waist some space but this is just a test....nnothing happened u can all go back to sleep!!!!! J.*** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From j_fogel at xxx.EDU Wed Oct 14 01:14:47 1998 From: j_fogel at xxx.EDU (j_fogel) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:14:47 -0400 Subject: Sinister: ? Message-ID: <01J2XNMJ1B1C0001H4@WESLEY.IT.EMERSON.EDU> hey! good now that i now it works here's the real question.... about two month ago(maybe three), there was someone looking for love songs by females for females. i searched the digest but couldn't find it, so if anybody got any idea what the hell i'm talking about or if this certain someone is still out there, please let me know. bye+thanks+goodnight J. p.s: i'v been away for a long time not that any of u missed me or anything 'cos i never opend my mouth, so if anybody could let me know if there is something happening before/after the Bostong gig, it will be great as well.....thanx! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From heinitz at xxx.net Wed Oct 14 00:52:06 1998 From: heinitz at xxx.net (Heinitz) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 98 23:52:06 GMT Subject: Sinister: cats and cabbage Message-ID: <981013235206.n0001625.heinitz@mail.clara.net> One of my cats is eating leftover cabbage on the kitchen table, and i don't know whether to tell her not to or just leave her to it. Nobody else will eat the cabbage anyway, so i think perhaps i will let her eat as much as she wants. She doesn't usually eat cabbage, but then, who does? I'm sorry if someone's put this up before (i'm on the digest so i'm not sure... ooh, that rhymed), but with all the northern soul interest going around i thought i'd share with you this snippet about the bbc radio 2 program that's on on wednesday night... In 'All Singing, All Dancing, All Night' (9pm, R2), Stuart Maconie tells the story of Northern soul, the club scene of the seventies that had at its epicentre the legendary Wigan Casino, where lovers of obscure sixtie's soul would come dressed in huge flares, tight vests and flat brogues for amphetamine-fuelled all-night dancing sessions. He plays many classic tracks from the genre, including the incredible Tainted Love by Gloria Jones, later made so famous by unlikely Northern Soul fans Soft Cell. That's out of the Guardian's 'Guide'. Where it says 'sixtie's', that's them not me. i thought i'd leave it in for authenticity's sake. And you know what? i typed that bit up 'cos i love you, even if you do scare me a little sometimes (so i don't write much messages). My nice friend lent me his copy of tigermilk the other day, when i stayed at his house after we went to see Kenickie (but don't get excited, i slept in his little sister's room). Ooooooooooh, it's nice. It makes me want to hug people. love abi, who's not even up to cardie wearing biscuit nibbling stage yet (but she's getting less timid, so there's hope...) x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vegus at xxx.no Wed Oct 14 02:02:22 1998 From: vegus at xxx.no (Stein Vegusdal) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 03:02:22 +0200 Subject: Sinister: brown cheese, brown cheese Message-ID: <014701bdf70e$4cf6fde0$b3034382@steinveg> As a true norwegian i must say that i love your discussions about our cheese, but i must say that you haven't tasted anything yet... Go to your favourite Cheese-store, or (if in US) Cheese- supermarket or Cheese-mart, and ask for a bit of "Pultost" or "Pultcheese". (translated directly to english it actually means fucked cheese...) I promise you, you will never speak of scandinavian cheese ever again.... Those of you who are directly related to Evil Kneivel (famous stuntman) should go straight on to the "Gammelost" or "Oldcheese". It makes the english Stilton smell like a freshly bathed babys bottom. For the rest of you that are not suicidal, "Norwegian Jarlsberg" is absolutely delicious.... Steinski ;-) -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: sad tomato Til: sinister at majordomo.net Dato: 14. oktober 1998 02:02 Emne: Sinister: brown cheese, brown cheese > >oh hello. >you all dont know me. >my name is robin, and i am a young girl who currently resides in berkeley, >california, usa, and who plans on getting out of here as soon as i finish my >degree. >i know you all have stopped discussing the merits of various cheeses, but in >reply to a man (?) who calls himself (herself?) "Trousers" i shall have to >laud the norwegian brown cheese. > >>FOR THE LOVES OF CHEESES >> >>I read with interest the debate about Scandinavian cheese. While I have no >>reason to doubt McTaggart's recommendations, I would like to warn you away >>from Norwegian Brown Cheese, which has a consistency midway between peanut >>butter and putty. >> > >if i am right i believe you are talking about gjetost cheese, a cheese my >boyfriend has the utmost trouble in pronouncing. but he also can't pronouce >"autechre" correctly. look at us dumb americans! (that's self-deprecating >humor and applies only to myself and my boyfriend, and not to various >sensitive listers.) this cheese is amazing because it an orangey-brown >colour and feels like clay in one's mouth. it has a lovely, sweet, buttery >taste, also. if any of you feel so inclined to drop acid, gjetost cheese >and a big long hunk of sweet bread is a nice accompaniment to your >hallucinations. > >who would have thought my first post would be about cheese. > >also, i really enjoy reading the heated arguments about new jerseyites and >sussexites and who's sense of humor is right, and everything. not that i >would enjoy reading it every day, but thank you for making my life a half >percentage more interesting. > >does anyone else place sid meier's civilization? does anyone else name >their cities in this game after belle and sebastian songs? > >ignore me if you want to, >robin. > >Blood oranges grow well in Florida, but they frighten American women. > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erinlew at xxx.com Wed Oct 14 02:23:05 1998 From: erinlew at xxx.com (Erin Lewis) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:23:05 PDT Subject: Sinister: B&S get drunk or something Message-ID: <19981014012307.26001.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey kids, Someone (Peej?) said we ought to have a European tour diary from Mr. Murdoch by now, but seeing as we don't, I have a paltry substitute for you. I was perusing the Candle Records webpage, home of the Lucksmiths, and I found this Guestbook entry at the very top (I have left his typos intact): ----- On 14-Oct-98 Geoffrey (geoffrey_murry at hotmail.com) from Munich, Germany wrote: I had the (surprise) pleasure of seeing the Lucksmiths open up for Belle and Sebastian at the Praterinsel here in Munich. They were excellent, although I'm sure the vast majority of the audience did not 'catch' the witicisms in their songs and also in their onstage comments (Oksoberfest, ha!). My colleague -- drug along by me at the last minute after I was flaked on by my original date -- loved the band as well, much to my surprise, as I had him pegged as only liking music with 200 beats pet minute at least. I would hasten to add that the Lucksmiths had their shit together to a far geater extent than the disappointing Belle and Sebastian, who all seemed to be drunk or something on stage. Too bad. Noentheless, loved the show, hope that they had a great time in my native San Francisco, and look forward to hearing much, much more from them in the future. Later! ----- I am a Belle&Sebby live virgin, so I cannot account for a case of the drunk-or-somethings, but I do know the Lucksmiths are a wonderfully sweet and entertaining band, especially with all their clothes on. Marty Lucksmith's songs make me so homesick for Australia that I should probably send him a bill for my inevitable plane ticket. So listen to Uncle Trousers and go see them, please! And listen to your Uncle Geoffrey, who tells you they have their shit together (fnar fnar). You will thank me, even if you do not get their North Fitzroy humor. I expect a full report by Sunday afternoon. Love, love, love, love Miss Erin, who is one HAPPY bunny since Honey came back ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vegasbaby at xxx.com Wed Oct 14 03:15:29 1998 From: vegasbaby at xxx.com (Courtney Knopf) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 19:15:29 PDT Subject: Sinister: it's that time again.... Message-ID: <19981014021529.26954.qmail@hotmail.com> well, it's tuesday so that means this must be some blatant self-promotion. tonight, 12-4am Pacific Daylight Time, catch my radio show; "Swing and the Single Girl" in Real Audio at http://kscr.usc.edu. if the site gives you any guff (which it may, because it's been redone since last week), you can open http://kscr.usc.edu/live.ram in your Real Player and bypass the web page. Please listen, and if you want to call in and make a request, you can do so at 213.740.1483. have a great day! ~Courtney ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JonnyKat at xxx.com Wed Oct 14 03:23:45 1998 From: JonnyKat at xxx.com (JonnyKat at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:23:45 EDT Subject: Sinister: A Message from the Dairy Council Message-ID: <50e9a39c.36240b31@aol.com> Greetings to the Sinister 700. My, how you've grown! : ) I have been so busy lately writing and answering private e-mails that I have had almost no time to post! However, the recent cheese thread has moved me to share my favorite fromage with my fine friends from around the globe. The cheese is, in a word, Morbier. As our French listees will know, Morbier is a semisoft cow's milk cheese from Franche-Comte. It has a creamy brown crust, and the interior has two layers of cheese separated by a thin, flavorless layer of vegetable ash. The morning milking is on the bottom, while the results of the evening milking reside happily on top. There is a subtle difference between the two layers, but you really have to be "in the zone" to detect it. Sometimes a bit of Turkish hashish will sharpen the senses. I find that this cheese, after sitting out all day, really begins to show its true character when accompanied by an inexpensive Burgundy. Morbier's nutty flavor, combined with its aroma of fresh hay, is perfectly complemented by the earthiness and raspberry qualities so typical in a young, impetuous Burgundy. ; ) Add a crusty loaf of golden raisin-fennel bread, a wool blanket, and a list crush -- and you have the perfect autumn picnic. Gone Completely Mad, Jonny xxxooo p.s. billy, how about sunday? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tdzF94 at xxx.edu Wed Oct 14 05:25:51 1998 From: tdzF94 at xxx.edu (The Trainspotter) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:25:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: ? In-Reply-To: <01J2XNMJ1B1C0001H4@WESLEY.IT.EMERSON.EDU> Message-ID: Darlings, Hey we should have a pre-gig or post gig meet up! now I have to go have a sick sesh from b&s in the valley advocate (I also have article! and also in this month's mademoiselle). Also emerson kid, do you know a jesse riley? or jordan mackow? -ms. teri http://hampshire.edu/~tdzF94/ - Inspired by the writings of the eighteeth century Venetian gambler, eroticist and spy. "The day didn't go too well. Too many chocolates and cigarettes, I kept thinking of you and almost walking into lampposts." Pulp "I may sit in a bar where the cocktails are but I really don't feel like talking I ride around and let the darkness fall 'cause I've got a sense of perfection and nothing else makes sense at all." On Tue, 13 Oct 1998, j_fogel wrote: > > hey! > good now that i now it works here's the real question.... > about two month ago(maybe three), there was someone looking for love songs by > females for females. i searched the digest but couldn't find it, so if anybody > got any idea what the hell i'm talking about or if this certain someone is > still out there, please let me know. > > bye+thanks+goodnight > J. > > p.s: i'v been away for a long time not that any of u missed me or anything > 'cos > i never opend my mouth, so if anybody could let me know if there is > something happening before/after the Bostong gig, it will be great as > well.....thanx! > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mphintz at xxx.com Wed Oct 14 05:25:27 1998 From: Mphintz at xxx.com (Mphintz at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:25:27 EDT Subject: Sinister: i think it is time... Message-ID: <70cab353.362427b7@aol.com> Yesterday as I waited for the bus, a suited man hovered around. He began distributing bibles to everyone around me. Then he just walked past me. Now, I didn't particularly want a bible, but I thought he could have at least offered. Or, does he know something about the state of my soul that I don't? I guess I should call my brother the minister to decipher the meaning of this, or a fortune teller. Oh, I guess you noticed--those are my bags by the door. Darling, I think I need a little space. I have been subscribed for over a year now, and I just feel that we have grown apart. I need some time to wander. Of course I will return (how could I not?) In the meantime, please take care of yourself. Do you realize how beautiful and special you are? This is the last living and loving you will hear from me for a few weeks; I think I might cry. Living and loving Matthew +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From akemi at xxx.com Wed Oct 14 05:31:58 1998 From: akemi at xxx.com (Nicole A. Sakai) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:31:58 -0700 Subject: Sinister: There is a light that never goes out Message-ID: <3624293E.3A8DB0E5@seanet.com> Hello to all, I know that this is probably a shot in the dark, but I would like to get tickets to either of the sold out B&S shows in N.Y. This is very last minute, but I didn't think I'd be able to make it anywhere near that side of the continent, let alone in the doors, and well... now that circumstances have changed, I'm starting to feel that desperation and determination. If anyone has info on extras or advice on what hoops I should jump through, I am welcome to ALL suggestions. Please e-mail me privately: akemi at seanet.com It would mean a great deal to me. Solidarity, Jacob Laurent +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From John.Stuart at xxx.com Wed Oct 14 09:20:41 1998 From: John.Stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 01:20:41 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Book Recommendation Message-ID: <93CA1ADD24AED111B6CF00A0C90676302F2BBA@EDINBURGH> I've just started reading Mark Radcliffe's book Showbusiness. It's already had me laughing out loud. If you like Radcliffe's humor, you'll love the book. So track it down. It's a tenner and it's on Sceptre. Cheers, John S. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MFKX7HVB at xxx.uk Wed Oct 14 10:16:07 1998 From: MFKX7HVB at xxx.uk (Henry) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:16:07 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe bounces Message-ID: unsubscribe bounces +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JohnJ at xxx.com Wed Oct 14 10:13:47 1998 From: JohnJ at xxx.com (John Johnston) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:13:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Le rock... Le soir...C'est Lenoir Message-ID: Nick Dastoor was not alone at being impressed by the grooviness of Mon. Lenoir's radio slogan. I thought it was fab! What would be the equivalent on Radio 1 here in the U of K, I wondered... "Le plague of locusts...Le plague of Boils...C'est Chris Moyles..."?? I'm also seriously reconsidering potential titles for my autobiography now that I've found the phrase "au grand gallop" - it's wonderful and may displace "What's the point in being cool if you can't wear a sombrero". Oh decisions..decisions.... I love the tale of Kristen and her list crush. All the best to 'em I say and I'm happy because it proves that there's still snogging to be done among the biscuit nibbling cardigan set. Before Tim H!O!P!kins left (btw fans of that kind of punctuation will love "The Education of Hyman Kaplan" but I digress) he urged us all to put a little bitof our hearts into each post...So let me share what I love about this list I love the fact that I've posted a tape of great songs (big up yourself Nick Morton) from somebody I've never met to another complete stranger and I just received another tape in an envelope with little drawings on it - nice one Fluffy. I love the fact that I've got a Robin Hood hat in my house given to me by my lovely guests at the Shepherds Bush gig, I love the fact that the Girlfriend-in-a-can that another of my visitors gave me was recently guest of honour at a dinner party. I love the fact that there's going to be a big new years get together (but hate the fact that I'm not here at New Year - poo) I say we are the picnic-having, Pez-dispensing, booty-shaking, honey-hugging sinister list and I love it. That's me in the sandpit - loosing my flip-flops xx John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aszolnoki at xxx.com Wed Oct 14 10:34:56 1998 From: aszolnoki at xxx.com (Andras Zalan Szolnoki) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 02:34:56 PDT Subject: Sinister: brown cheese, brown cheese Message-ID: <19981014093458.16091.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello Everyone!!!!! I hope you lot find this cheese debate as amusing as me. I ate some grand cheese yesterday just before I went to bed ....mmmmmmmm.. camambert (is this how you spell it??) , it was wonderfull!!!!! And the danish fedost , its probably called something else but I don�t remember , is lovely as well ..... and the hungarian Trapista is also a superb yellow cheese. But few cheese can bring more enjoyment to one�s day than a plate full of Kalimpong-cheese with some lovely chipati and curd................ has anyone on the list seen/heard the Monty Python sketch about this cheese-shop ??????? Ciao!!!! Andras >From owner-sinister at majordomo.net Tue Oct 13 18:04:47 1998 >Received: from localhost (daemon at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA13203; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 02:03:01 +0100 >Received: by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (bulk_mailer v1.9); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 02:02:48 +0100 >Received: (from majordomo at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA13169 for sinister-outgoing; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 02:02:43 +0100 >Received: from stovner.sys.sol.no (0 at stovner.sys.sol.no [195.225.4.18]) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id CAA13164 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 02:02:38 +0100 >Received: from steinveg (ti01a97-0564.dialup.online.no [130.67.5.180]) by stovner.sys.sol.no (8.8.6/8.8.6/sol5) > with SMTP id for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 03:02:36 +0200 (MET DST) >Message-ID: <014701bdf70e$4cf6fde0$b3034382 at steinveg> >From: "Stein Vegusdal" >To: >Subject: Re: Sinister: brown cheese, brown cheese >Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 03:02:22 +0200 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 >Reply-To: "Stein Vegusdal" >X-List: Sinister > > >As a true norwegian i must say that i love your >discussions about our cheese, but i must say that >you haven't tasted anything yet... >Go to your favourite Cheese-store, or (if in US) Cheese- >supermarket or Cheese-mart, and ask for a bit of "Pultost" or=20 >"Pultcheese". (translated directly to english it actually means=20 >fucked cheese...) I promise you, you will never speak of=20 >scandinavian cheese ever again.... >Those of you who are directly related to Evil Kneivel (famous stuntman)=20 >should go straight on to the "Gammelost" or "Oldcheese". >It makes the english Stilton smell like a freshly bathed babys bottom. >For the rest of you that are not suicidal, "Norwegian Jarlsberg" is=20 >absolutely delicious.... > >Steinski ;-) > > > > > >-----Opprinnelig melding----- >Fra: sad tomato >Til: sinister at majordomo.net >Dato: 14. oktober 1998 02:02 >Emne: Sinister: brown cheese, brown cheese > > >> >>oh hello. >>you all dont know me. >>my name is robin, and i am a young girl who currently resides in = >berkeley, >>california, usa, and who plans on getting out of here as soon as i = >finish my >>degree. >>i know you all have stopped discussing the merits of various cheeses, = >but in >>reply to a man (?) who calls himself (herself?) "Trousers" i shall have = >to >>laud the norwegian brown cheese. >> >>>FOR THE LOVES OF CHEESES >>> >>>I read with interest the debate about Scandinavian cheese. While I = >have no >>>reason to doubt McTaggart's recommendations, I would like to warn you = >away >>>from Norwegian Brown Cheese, which has a consistency midway between = >peanut >>>butter and putty. >>> >> >>if i am right i believe you are talking about gjetost cheese, a cheese = >my >>boyfriend has the utmost trouble in pronouncing. but he also can't = >pronouce >>"autechre" correctly. look at us dumb americans! (that's = >self-deprecating >>humor and applies only to myself and my boyfriend, and not to various >>sensitive listers.) this cheese is amazing because it an orangey-brown >>colour and feels like clay in one's mouth. it has a lovely, sweet, = >buttery >>taste, also. if any of you feel so inclined to drop acid, gjetost = >cheese >>and a big long hunk of sweet bread is a nice accompaniment to your >>hallucinations. >> >>who would have thought my first post would be about cheese. >> >>also, i really enjoy reading the heated arguments about new jerseyites = >and >>sussexites and who's sense of humor is right, and everything. not that = >i >>would enjoy reading it every day, but thank you for making my life a = >half >>percentage more interesting. >> >>does anyone else place sid meier's civilization? does anyone else name >>their cities in this game after belle and sebastian songs? >> >>ignore me if you want to, >>robin. >> >>Blood oranges grow well in Florida, but they frighten American women. >> >>+----------------------------------------------------------------------+= > >> +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ >> To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe >> send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to >> "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, >> FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >> +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ >> +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >>+----------------------------------------------------------------------+= > >> > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snorman at xxx.uk Wed Oct 14 11:50:30 1998 From: snorman at xxx.uk (Sam Norman) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:50:30 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: please have sympathy Message-ID: Ok i know i've asked before, but due to the fact of going to uni, than moving out and then moving back in again (long story don't ask) i never managed to get it settled. Could one of the many lovely people out there make a copy of tigermilk, the bbc sessions and what other goodies, there are out there. I will happily remimburse any one for the cost of postage and whatever (not to pay for a copy though, oh no). If anyone fancies trading for something, suggest something and i'll see what i can come up with. ta ra for now Sam p.s. someone in the uk would be easiest i guess. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From padraic_fresheire at xxx.com Wed Oct 14 13:25:54 1998 From: padraic_fresheire at xxx.com (padraic doorey) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 05:25:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: i've been lurking at you baby... Message-ID: <19981014122554.25339.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> golly gee, i haven't been here in a while. lots of stuff to comment on. yesterday a rather nasty hoo-hah occurred on the list. gawsh, peace and love everyone. 'kay? enough. genny-pooh said: "ah,it's the irish who are the coolest anyways." -never a truer word has passed the lips of a sinister listee dawhlings. mark casarotto said: "alan wiley....tape.....anyone know who he is" -okay mark pls don't crucify me for not getting your wording right but i know who alan wiley is....he's *fabu*. he's trying to get a deal here at the moment since he released "soundtrack" on his own short round records in the states. you can check out some more of his stuff on http://homorama.planetout.com/~alan/bands.html and maybe even buy a copy if you are impressed by the real audio and other things that i don't know how to use on my crappy p.c. it's pretty impressive stuff...sorta like slowdiveMEETSneworderMEETSthe-quiter-moments-of-joydivsion katrina house said something about the lucksmiths playing on friday....by all accounts these guys are great live. i took the plunge and bought two of their cds online a month or two ago and both atre AMAZING. if those guys sing "little athletics" and "under the rotunda" on friday i will end this shite week a happier man. 'twas awful that trent didn't feature too much in last sunday's daria episode (save for a brief fantasy sequence where he was playing darcy in pride and prejudice). damn. but over on channel four john boy walton was out covering the explosion of the hindenberg and looking hotter by the minute (no pun intended). belle & sebastian content? countdown to new york begins today....i week 'til i get there and only nine days 'til the philly show. to the listees who are organising the pre-philly party can i ask if anything has been organised (club or something) for afterwards? and does anyone in the NY area know of a cheap car rental joint that will give me one of those minivans or off-roaders so my san fran/london/boston possee can drive down for the show on friday? i just turned 24 and i'm the eldest in the group je crois. not unless you are an over 25 driver rory, are you? the vehicle need to fit 8 of us (but we're all so weeee!). lady penelope ------------- and now the session's over and it's time to go, am i just another shot in your portfolio? _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idoruzine at xxx.com Wed Oct 14 13:49:31 1998 From: idoruzine at xxx.com (carly marcoux) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 05:49:31 PDT Subject: Sinister: in states of distress...! Message-ID: <19981014124932.27303.qmail@hotmail.com> Sam quoth: "Ok i know i've asked before, but due to the fact of going to uni, than moving out and then moving back in again (long story don't ask) i never managed to get it settled. Could one of the many lovely people out there make a copy of tigermilk, the bbc sessions and what other goodies, there are out there. I will happily remimburse any one for the cost of postage and whatever (not to pay for a copy though, oh no). If anyone fancies trading for something, suggest something and i'll see what i can come up with." You knoooowwww... has anyone seen or heard from miss daplyn??? does anyone remember elizabeth?? it seems that she's sort of just fallen off the face of the earth... sandra and i are deeply saddened but semi-extremely-happy bunnies... i can explain... i must! we sent elizabeth two blank tapes in august and an international coupon to send back two freshly copied yummy hot off the presses *tigermilk* tapes... oohh mew... we may have been ransacked while our doors were unlocked, but we're not sure if she even got the cookies we left for her in the window...! did someone leave open the door? we need to know what happened! did miss daplyn run away? we sure hope not! does this make any sense to anyone...??? okay, okay, so on to lovlier things... i've finally whittled down my sinister mails to 20 from 400--- can someone please clap and shout and scream really loud right now!!! too much work lately and not enough time for chat! ugh. is everyone bringing their pez to the toronto show???! I can't wait... Sandra and i will be distributing our fanzine during the show ... called aptly "idoru" (japanese for idol) it has special jeepster content (we did it all on our own) thanks to the lovely *bug* who wrote the snow patrol review! and ed m's also sending us a northern soul bit to go with our motown museum tour! Belle and Sebastian on the 24th... who could ask for such a handsome/beautiful date! And o! sandra will be a VERY happy bunny soon, i'm sure because of beautiful Phillipe and his fabulous french sessions!!! wow! i haven't spoke this much in days! i've missed everyone... but i'm still here! hugs and sloppy kisses on a wintery fall morning, listee sammi! oh, and one more note! all this talk about c's radio show and we're feeling like maybe people should hear ours as well if they get the chance! it's every friday night in windsor, ontario canada from 10pm to 12am! called the "k-mart alice show" on CJAM 91.5fm uni of windsor station... on the net...is CJAMfm at server.uwindsor.caWWW Address: http://www.uwindsor.ca/cjam/index.html IT'S IN REAL AUDIO! i'm not sure how well it works but you have to click on the rca victor doggie to hear cjam live!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MctaggartR at xxx.com Wed Oct 14 12:08:50 1998 From: MctaggartR at xxx.com (Mctaggart, Robert) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:08:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Count Dukula Message-ID: Come, let us talk of Boston..... Rodders wrote: >Miss you loads (as I'm sure you can understand), but I have a wee >problem. We've missed you too, Rod. I mean that. Sorry to hear about your problem. Have you read "The Water Method Man" by John Irving? That might offer you some tips on how to deal with these uncomfortable infections. Keef "Back by dope demand" Watson wrote: >Tag said about how Limahl used to be shacked up with the only other >world's leading authority on popular music (the other being the >Duke), Paul Gambaccini. Can anyone confirm this? Are you calling me a liar, Watson? Of course it's bloody true - just like the fact that Jimmy Corkhill was shagging Fred the weather man is true. You've got a nerve, pal, you don't talk to us for weeks, and you ponce back as if nothing ever happened, and immediately start throwing your weight around, casting aspersions about my honesty. Paul Gambaccini had a great jingle (Limahl obviously thought so), it had saucy girlie voices going "Paaauuul Gamba-cheeeeenneeee" in husky tones. Keith also admitted: >We've fucked all the plans over properly and decided just to have a >big party in Glasgow - over New Year. Sadly, it's true. We may return to the idea at a later date, but people kept saying "oh, not this weekend, not that weekend, etc etc...", so rather than disappoint one or two people, we decided just to piss you the lot of you off. However, in my defence, can I just remind you...Smile, me DJing with glorious unprofessionalism and considerable taste, this Saturday, Star and Garter, Fairfield Street, Manchester, Entry two of your British pounds. And there may even be other goings on nearer Christmas if the Dandy Don, Emma (the Danette??) and myself get our act together. Stephen "back demanding dope" Trousers wrote: >Megan was going on about some song about Julie Christie. There >are a couple of others: firstly it is widely thought that the "Terry >and Julie" in Waterloo Sunset are Terence Stamp and Julie Christie, >who were starring in some Polanski version of Thomas Hardy at the >time. Barry Norman's job (and mine for that matter) is safe for the time being. Trousers, what are you wittering on about? Our Roman's Thomas Hardy interpretation "Tess" came out ages after "Waterloo Sunset" and starred Nastassja "Ich habe ein brand neu Combine Harvester, ja?" Kinski. She was my third ever crush after Nyree-Dawn Porter in "The Protectors", and Nadia Comenecci. Are you thinking of "Far from the Madding Crowd"? Directed, if memory serves me correctly, by John Schlesinger? Julie was in that. Julie rules. Her character in "Billy Liar" was everything I look for in a girl, and have subsequently found. Finally, the Dandy may have already mentioned this, but someone we know claims that she recognised the Duke, and asked "Didn't he used to be a Goth?" Can it really be true that the Duke of Haringay is no other than.....The Prince of Darkness? And on that blood-curdling note, I leave you, Love Tag xxxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sandrad at xxx.com Wed Oct 14 14:43:39 1998 From: sandrad at xxx.com (Sandra Duric) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:43:39 -0400 Subject: Sinister: in states of distress...! In-Reply-To: <19981014124932.27303.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981014094339.00957e20@mail.accu-staff.com> > is everyone bringing their pez to the toronto show???! I >can't wait... Sandra and i will be distributing our fanzine during the >show ... called aptly "idoru" (japanese for idol) it has special >jeepster content (we did it all on our own) >oh, and one more note! all this talk about c's radio show and we're >feeling like maybe people should hear ours as well if they get the >chance! it's every friday night in windsor, ontario canada from 10pm to >12am! called the "k-mart alice show" on CJAM 91.5fm uni of windsor >station... on the net...is CJAMfm at server.uwindsor.caWWW Address: >http://www.uwindsor.ca/cjam/index.html >IT'S IN REAL AUDIO! i'm not sure how well it works but you have to click >on the rca victor doggie to hear cjam live!! hallo listees, my rather rapturous and glamourous room mate neglected to thank Seb for his brilliant contribution to the B&S content in Idoru (slaps on the wrist, sammi! how could you forget funkyseb??) BTW, seb, will you re-send your address to me so I can send you a copy?? also, sammi wouldn't know this but CJAM's internet transmission is untransmittable due to some weird little problem that couldn't be fixed the last time i was there so chris was running around as frantically (ha!) as he could, so hopefully it's all fixed and lovely for this friday when i will be solo due to sammi having better things to do that me on a Friday night - hey, sammi, don't forget the SYMPOSIUM list!! here's to another 14 hour day!! a rather cranky alexandra who's not playing enough these hallowe'en days PS - PEZ - TORONTO - B&S SHOW THE 24TH OCT - umm, I need to make a stand - the opening act for the TO show sucks! spooky whatshisname, so very un B&S. sigh +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Wed Oct 14 15:35:40 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:35:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: It's another love F.A.Q. Message-ID: <01BDF788.4CDC2270.keith@qss.co.uk> Robbert McTaggart wrote : >Julie rules. Her character in "Billy >Liar" was everything I look for in a girl, and have subsequently found. Jesus Christ! you smoothy bastard! What's all this about, next you'll be attaching a signature to your emails saying something like "A big shout out to my little pumkiny-wumpkiny - love you honeybum!" Anyway, the question about Paul Gambaccini was sensible I thought, I mean, it's not in the same league as Bob Holness playing the Saxophone Solo on Baker Street, and Virginia Bottomley having the world's largest collection of Wah-Wah pedals is it? I looked up Mr.Gambaccini on the world-wide super webhighway and found most of the references to him on www.knopfler.net, and that was a bit of a snoozeathon (that's as opposed to the great Mr.Isaac "Jobby" Hayes' Grooveathon, which, despite the fact that I haven't heard it, I'm sure it rules). I'd recommend to any of the Mancunian Sinerstusians that they head on down to Smile where Tag's DJing, where he's going to play "Male Stripper" by Man 2 Man meets Man Parrish, if we're lucky, he'll find time to slip in "Mirrors" by Sally Oldfield too - Tag, if you don't have this, I've got it, and I've got "Northern Lights" too. I've nothing much to add for the moment on the cheese debate - although I did have some charming cheese for lunch today. Troosers wrote: >firstly it is widely thought that the "Terry >and Julie" in Waterloo Sunset are Terence Stamp and Julie Christie, >who were starring in some Polanski version of Thomas Hardy at the >time. Yes I thought that too, I'm sure it is true, unfortunately all I can see nowadays, is not a romantic vision, but Terence Stamp as General Zod in Superman II. Isn't it from Far from the madding crowd by the way? I'm allowed to be pedantic (and also perhaps wrong) here after Nick complained about my spelling in the FAQ. In any case, I've updated the FAQ a bit, so here it is, actually I managed to downdate it my changing my computer at work, so it's not quite as up to date as I'd like. Well, we'll see, plus I'm awaiting on a final word as regards the what really happened at the Dog on Wheels recordings as I don't actually know, and people seem to ask this quite a lot. With any luck I should find out soon... 1. What is Tigermilk, where can I get a copy? Tigermilk is the bands first album and was released around about May 1996. It was released as part of a Stow College course whereby Alan Rankine (of the Associates) fronts up the cash to record a single every year, although with Belle and Sebastian they decided that there was enough material for an album, hence Tigermilk. There were only 1000 copies pressed and so the record is worth a lot of money now. The band have always mantained that Tigermilk will be re-released at some point, and this will definitely be the case, currently likely that about March 1999, although this may change. 2. Who is the guest singer on Lazy Line Painter Jane? The female singer on Lazy Line Painter Jane is Monica Queen, formerly of countryish Glasgow band Thrum. Thrum released a record a few years ago, about 1994 I think. I can't remember what it's called though, someone else will have to fill me in on that one. Last I heard she was recording with her own band which is called "Monica", or at least that's what it was called in February 1997. 3. What is "Elvis" in A Century of Elvis. No-one knows bar the author really, but it's probably a cat, perhaps a tortoise, maybe actually Elvis, maybe it's Tortelvis from Dread Zeppelin who knows, and to be quite honest, who cares. 4. Who is in the band... Stuart Murdoch - singing guitar Isobel Campbell - singing, cello, various Sarah Martin - violin, weird things Stevie Jackson - Guitar Stuart David - Bass Mick Cooke - Trumpet, various Chris Geddes - keyboards Richard Colburn - Drums Neil Robertson has been known to play bass on Stuart David's "Spaceboy Dream", which brings me on to... 5. What other bands have members of Belle and Sebastian involved in? There's quite a number of things here. I'm sure it's not complete either, it's just what I can remember off hand. Chris Geddes : currently V-Twin and Golden Rodeo (think that's what they're called). Has played on Arab Strap records. V-Twin have released two singles (to my knowledge), Gifted, and a 12", In the land of the Pharoes. Mick Cooke : Used to play with Hardbody, who released two singles on Epic (On your own, Hazel's hob). Now plays with the Karelia and the Amphetameanies. Has also played on releases by Mojave 3, Ex-Cathedra. Probably others too. Stuart Murdoch : Played on releases by Polarbear and Arab Strap. Richard Colburn : Has played with Polarbear/Snowpatrol Isobel Campbell : Has played on Arab Strap records, also played on the Snowpatrol record. Stuart David : Stuart David has a side project called "Looper". There has been one single released on Sub-pop singles club called "Impossible things" and there is an album planned. 6. What records have been released? Tigermilk (LP) May 1996 If you're feeling sinister (LP) November 1996 Dog on Wheels (EP) April 1997 Lazy Line Painter Jane (EP) June 1997 3,6,9 Seconds of Light (EP) October 1997 The Boy with the Arab Strap (LP) September 1998 7. What's that song at the end of the 3,6,9 seconds of light EP called. It's called "Songs for Children". 8. What about all these unreleased songs that people keep belting on about in order to make themselves look smart? Pocketbook Angel London has let me down Hurley's having dreams These are little demos of old songs that will as far as we know, never ever be released as Belle and Sebastian. Loneliness of the middle distance runner Modern Rock song Rhoda People around the place have tapes of various different versions of these, they've been kicking around for a while and they may well be released reasonably soon, there are numerous different versions of the Loneliness of the middle distance runner. I Know where the summer goes The Gate These two will probably be a part of the next single 9. What sessions have they done on the radio? The first session was around about September 1996 here Mark Lamarr sat in for Mark and Lard at night... They played Judy and the dream of horses Like Dylan in the movies The State that I am in The stars of track and field The second was about February 1997 on Mark + Lard's program again and they played : I could be dreaming Seeing other people (slow version) We rule the school Modern Rock song The third was on Steve Lamacq's evening session and they played : Lazy Line Painter Jane Sleep the clock around Slow Graffiti Seymour Stein They did one of Stevie Jackson's tracks "Wrong Love" one night when the evening session was live from Glasgow. Apparently this is now called "Wrong Girl", will it be called "Wrong Sheep" at some point in the future? The fourth less well known session was on Peter Easton's Radio Scotland music program where he played : The Loneliness of the middle distance runner Slow Graffiti Modern Rock song. 10. Who is Tigermilk dedicated to? Tigermilk is dedicated to Lawrence Bradby, who's a friend of Stuart's. I dunno how frequently asked this question is, but it certainly was asked frequently recently as regards a competition on French radio. 11. Are Belle and Sebastian twee? No, they rock. 12. Dog on Wheels, what's the story there then? Well it's not really Belle and Sebastian on that EP, as you'll see if you have a look at who played on it. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Wed Oct 14 16:12:18 1998 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:12:18 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: brown cheese, brown cheese In-Reply-To: <19981014093458.16091.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <985D965CF0@hermes.nottingham.ac.uk> Andras Zalan Szolnok wrote: > I hope you lot find this cheese debate as amusing as me. I ate some > grand cheese yesterday just before I went to bed ....mmmmmmmm.... Before you went to bed? My mom always told me never to eat cheese before I went to bed cos it would give me "funny dreams". I never quite understood what she meant by that, but still, late night cheese sounds like a dangerous hobby. Try eating your cheese at a more reasonable hour. bye +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From houckbe at xxx.edu Wed Oct 14 16:18:41 1998 From: houckbe at xxx.edu (Ben Houck) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:18:41 -0500 Subject: Sinister: tickets for Chicago Message-ID: <3624C0D0.2726DBB7@math.earlham.edu> The last tickets for the Chicago show seem to have finally flown into the pocket of a lucky midwestener. Unfortunately that person was not me. I am trying to piece together for tickets for the show on Monday 10/26. If anyone can help me out with just one of those four (and perhaps three other people do the same) tickets I can pay them back and send them a nice card. Thanks Ben Houck houckbe at earlham.edu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbgustat at xxx.net Wed Oct 14 16:20:08 1998 From: mbgustat at xxx.net (Mike) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:20:08 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Show Yourselves! Message-ID: <01BDF764.9A180E60.mbgustat@idt.net> So I'm putting together a B&S website. I was thinking about having a "Listies" section. I think it might be fun to see what everyone looks like. Amused? Then send me a pic in either a .jpg or .gif format, and I'll start posting 'em. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From akumulator at xxx.com Wed Oct 14 16:24:01 1998 From: akumulator at xxx.com (paul dean) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:24:01 EDT Subject: Sinister: eLECTRIC HONEY Message-ID: <19981014152401.13988.qmail@hotmail.com> wHOOPS, I'VE STARTED CAPITALLY INVERTED SO I SHOULD CONTINUE. iT'S A BIT LIKE FINDING YOU ARE WEARING ODD SOCKS & THEN YOU CHANGE THEM & BAD BAD THINGS HAPPEN - SO JUST TO CLARIFY i'm not shouting! ANYHOWS - THE QUESTION IS 'WHAT WAS THIS YEAR'S ELECTRIC HONEY RELEASE?' ANYONE KNOW?? KRISTEN HERSH IS SCARED OF CHEESE - FACT BYE PAUL 'too many psychopaths - not enough cyclepaths' ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GLBurch at xxx.com Wed Oct 14 16:25:32 1998 From: GLBurch at xxx.com (GLBurch at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:25:32 EDT Subject: Sinister: Afterglow!! Message-ID: <62a237d9.3624c26c@aol.com> Just for everyone's information, Julie Christy is great in the film Afterglow, with Nick Nolte, Johnny Lee Miller (for you Trainspotting fans), and Laura Flynn Boyle. BILL +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Wed Oct 14 16:29:09 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:29:09 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Show Yourselves! References: <01BDF764.9A180E60.mbgustat@idt.net> Message-ID: <3624C345.9005FA21@jeepster.co.uk> this already exists, in every footer/sig file from every message from sinister is an url. follow the url and you end up at the web site for this list, it has the list faq, archives, PHOTO'S, news, guitar chords and other things that the people on the list have helped create over the past year or so. so please, no more sites which replicate current information, just help the people who have big sites keep 'em up to date and current. -- also, a new addition to the jeepster site later today or tomorrow will be a message board to help co-ordinate getting tickets for gigs to people who don't have them :) -- Mike wrote: > > So I'm putting together a B&S website. I was thinking about having a > "Listies" section. I think it might be fun to see what everyone looks > like. > Amused? Then send me a pic in either a .jpg or .gif format, and I'll > start posting 'em. -- david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rewb2 at xxx.uk Wed Oct 14 17:03:59 1998 From: rewb2 at xxx.uk (rob b) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 17:03:59 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: salako gig - tigermilk etc Message-ID: greetings people is there going to be a meet up of people going to tomorrow's salako gig at all? i know there is a message board for things like this, but it's getting a bit late for that. are there any good pubs nearby to congregate in and sample the local ales? i don't really know the area, so any suggestions would be great. sorry to all non-londoners, but to apologise, anyone who wants a copy of tigermilk, demos, sessions etc - feel free to send me a note and i'll see what i can do. g'bye rob x ps. could anyone out there do me a recording of 'rhoda'? i would be eternally grateful! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- + / \ St Theresa's calling her | O | The church up on the hill _______| _ | Is looking lovely / / /\ | __| \/. But it doesn't interest /_/\_//_/||##| ;\|/' The only thing she wants to know __|_||_|||_||##|_____|_ Is how and why and when and where to go If you're feeling sinister... Belle and Sebastian ------------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tristanqc at xxx.com Wed Oct 14 17:12:44 1998 From: tristanqc at xxx.com (Fred Nelson) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk and Matador Message-ID: <19981014161244.27724.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> Hello, This is my first post on this wonderful list, so i hope that i send it correctly. Anyway, a friend of mine e-mailed Carrie at Matador Records to find out if there are any plans to re-release Tigermilk in the US. She replied and said that their plans are to re-release it some time in the future. At this point all the details have not been worked out. In addition, she also mentioned that Matador may release all the singles on one cd. Has anybody heard anything to this effect? Does anybody have any more information concerning this. If it is true, it makes me somewhat delighted to hear that I wont have to cringe every time that i listen to my sub-par bootleg copy of Tigermilk. Also, does anyone know of any spare tickets for the Chicago show? I know that they are a pretty hot commodity, but my university's indie music club is trying to turn the concert into a group outing. So far we only have one ticket. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From smfisher at xxx.EDU Wed Oct 14 17:11:24 1998 From: smfisher at xxx.EDU (Stephanie) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:11:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: bliss and happiness and oh yeah, a request too! Message-ID: Yeah! It's only two more weeks to the Athens show. :) Since I am one of those people that only writes like once every 6 months, I think it always seems like I'm a newbie. No matter, I suppose. I just wanted to tell you all that I am incredibly jubilant because: I've got a Belle and Sebastian poster now. It's the only poster I have on my wall so far and I love it. Well, it's just the cover of TWATTYBUS, which I know most of you EVIL fiends (just kidding :) ) don't like, but I like it and wee Chris rocks my world. And I heard this girl on my hall playing Tigermilk! Not only that, but it was She's Losing It...I love love love that song so much. I feel like I've found a kindred spirit now, even though so far I've been too shy to talk to her about them. Or anything, for that matter. You know how it is when you find someone who really loves something you really love? Okay...if you're still reading this, about my request: yes, you were right, I'm wondering if anyone could make me a tape of the unreleased songs. I've got the two Radcliffe sessions, but I have yet to hear Slow Grafitti, Pocketbook Angel, and all those other songs I don't feel like listing now. Of course I'd offer some sort of compensation...we could work something out, I'm sure. Oh yeah, I'm in the US so if possible it might be better for someone here to make me a tape, but if there are any kind and generous souls overseas I'd be willing to work with them, too. Cheers & love, Stephanie "Even when I was a tiny girl, I preferred being alone...I could give my imagination free rein and live in a world of lovely dreams"--Greta Garbo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ajax at xxx.com Wed Oct 14 18:17:10 1998 From: ajax at xxx.com (Jake Reichert) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: eLECTRIC HONEY In-Reply-To: <19981014152401.13988.qmail@hotmail.com> from "paul dean" at Oct 14, 98 11:24:01 am Message-ID: <199810141717.KAA05421@atari.saturn5.com> > KRISTEN HERSH IS SCARED OF CHEESE - FACT If this is true, it's a brilliant bit of knowledge. I'm wearing a Kristen Hersh shirt today, and I'm tempted to write in undereath "strange angels" the words "are scared of cheese". This is what happens when the coffee maker breaks. -mrjake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TWidmer at xxx.com Wed Oct 14 18:25:25 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:25:25 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Happy Birthday, Harry Rodger Webb Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF032CBAF3@amerwksnt01.xil.com> Living and Loving Matthew: <> Oh dear.. My experience with Mormon missionaries have been the same, and it's not only puzzling but frightening! can they see the incorrigable evil in me? am I beyond salvation? I somberly inquired. Then someone explained that the Missionaries are told to avoid young girls in order to keep their minds clean. Oh, stop! <> ...likewise, "it's not fun to watch Ross Perot", thank you to whoever sent in that gem. What were the real lyrics again? It's true!! The media HAVE been watching us! How else can one explain the highly suspect appearance of none other than *the* Teddy pendergrass on the "today" show this morning? It's not like he has a new book or something to promote (ok, so yeah he does) but then, right after a segment with Julie Christie talking about her favorite cheeses? Never mind I made that last part up - I say, beware, the press are on us like hawks. It's all that rubbish about B&S fans being a "cult". Look, there's some Korn fans over there who look like trouble, spy on them!! Can anybody from glasgow provide a couch/floor/flowerbed/damp cement area in the basement for me to sleep on for that New year's meet-up thing? Yeah it's a bit early to ask, but...anyway, I'm house-trained and can, uh, make it "worth your while", nudge, nudge (i.e. buy you a drink or something). Thanks. tata, Shania Twain +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pete at xxx.net Wed Oct 14 18:34:37 1998 From: pete at xxx.net (Peter Hahndorf) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 17:34:37 GMT Subject: Sinister: B&S get drunk or something In-Reply-To: <19981014012307.26001.qmail@hotmail.com> References: <19981014012307.26001.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3626df95.2137263@mail.nord.de> >On 14-Oct-98 >Geoffrey (geoffrey_murry at hotmail.com) >from Munich, Germany wrote: > > I would hasten to add that the Lucksmiths >had their shit together to a far geater extent than the disappointing >Belle and Sebastian, who all seemed to be drunk or something on stage. >Too bad. Noentheless, loved the show, hope that they had a great time >in my native San Francisco, and look forward to hearing much, much more >from them in the future. Later! I was probably the only person being there to see The Lucksmiths with the added bonus of Belle & Sebastian. I am pretty sure nobody in Belle & Sebastian was drunk in Munich but still their show was disappointing, compared to the previous times I saw them (Barcelona 9/1997, Stockholm 9/1998) It's hard to say so but they were not worth the 8 hours drive, but I agree with Geoffrey that The Lucksmiths were excellent and much better than B&S that evening. The audience was full of people who had read about B&S in some of Germany's major newspapers or magazines but never heard their records instead of die-hard fans as in Stockholm the week before. The good thing was that they played a completely different set of songs compared to Stockholm. Pete -- TweeNet Communications c/o Peter Hahndorf Pastorenweg 140, 28237 Bremen, Germany, tel: +49 421 613990 http://www.twee.net - pete at twee.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Blissxo at xxx.com Wed Oct 14 19:29:07 1998 From: Blissxo at xxx.com (Blissxo at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:29:07 EDT Subject: Sinister: justify the reason behind your style Message-ID: <9fe6f9fd.3624ed73@aol.com> hello all, i've been a bit of a stranger lately, not really up on my emails as school is monopolizing my time, but i guess it wouldn't hurt if i posted something since, after all, i *am* helping allan sort out the toronto meet (october 24, send email if you'd like to join because we all love you, really). it's so cold here, very gloomy and rainy and not at all a good day to be outside. i got soaked coming in and now have a deep chill that isn't going away. i've bundled myself up in blankets and turned the heater on, and i'm brewing some chai tea as i write, putting off my homework as usual because i'm not in the mood to do any sort of constructive thinking about either intercountry adoptions or stages of family development. sounds thrilling, yes? a word about cheese: this thread got me all excited about cheese, i hadn't had any really good ricotta or mozzarella for ages (which could have something to do with my total lactose intolerance, but i digress...) so i went to the market today and got some good looking three-cheese tortellini and was subsequently very sick. i'm all better now, thank you, but i just figured i should inform you that you all have some very persuasive and tantalizing descriptions of cheese dishes, able to sway even stubborn and intolerant me. all of a sudden, there are all these good shows happening! belle and sebastian, rachel's, cat power...and i missed fantastic plastic machine, who i had heard were superb. it's not good, though, me having to spend all this money on shows and book all these nights off work. i'm slowly getting up the courage to begin making a b+s tape for my crushboy, which i've been meaning to do for quite some time now but have been a little scared of. not that he would automatically know it was a crushtape, i'm also trying to talk him into going to the b+s show - i'll make a convert out of him yet. i hope. and if not, he'll still be positively lovely to look at. no harm in trying, i say. take care, sinisterines. don't be swayed by popular opinion and eat things you have bad reactions to. truly, jessicaxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ajax at xxx.com Wed Oct 14 19:38:13 1998 From: ajax at xxx.com (Jake Reichert) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:38:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: justify the reason behind your style In-Reply-To: <9fe6f9fd.3624ed73@aol.com> from "Blissxo@aol.com" at Oct 14, 98 02:29:07 pm Message-ID: <199810141838.LAA10314@atari.saturn5.com> > all of a sudden, there are all these good shows happening! belle and > sebastian, rachel's, cat power...and i missed fantastic plastic machine, who i OOOOHHHHH, let's not talk about the Rachel's show. I tried getting a ticket yesterday for the PJ Harvey show in SF that they're opening up for, and they're sold out (damn that Polly Jean!). I've wanted to see them for the last two years, and now I'm out of luck. Unless any of you are undercover ticket dealers... Sniffling and sad, mrjake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Wed Oct 14 20:08:42 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 20:08:42 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Only 72 days until Christmas... In-Reply-To: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF032CBAF3@amerwksnt01.xil.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, Tara Widmer wrote: > > < i listen to it i can't help but sing along as if it really was "midget" > and not "major.">> > ...likewise, "it's not fun to watch Ross Perot", thank you to whoever > sent in that gem. What were the real lyrics again? No, she's blatantly singing "It's not fun to watch the rice grow". Although I've no idea why... (Maybe the band are just obsessed with India, on Seymour Stein, Stevie sings about "Have you ever seen Gandhi?", or so I'm told...) Now, call me a sad bastard (Go on, you know you want to), but Keith missed a few things off that FAQ. Stuart M played on a B-Side of an early Hefner single (The Hefner Soul EP), and I'm pretty sure Isobel has done something with V-Twin as well (she was definitely in the photo of the band that appeared in the NME a while back).And a couple of other unreleased songs are out there - Slow Grafffittti, which will be on the soundtrack of "The Acid House" later this year, and an instrumental called Tigermilk which they played in Manchester. I haven't got a copy of it unfortunately, but I remember it being very good. And of course there's Paper Boat, which will probably be the next single. (Are there really only going to be 3 songs on it?). As for what instrument they all play, well they seem to take it in turns, just for a laugh like. Isobel for example has been known to play cello, bass guitar, tambourine, recorder, keyboards... Right, that's enough anal retention for now. Time to head off to the cinema to meet a, erm, good aquaintance ;-) (And no, unfortunately it's not the dream girl I was going on about last week but you can't have everything...) Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mdellima at xxx.com Wed Oct 14 20:21:55 1998 From: mdellima at xxx.com (mark del lima) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:21:55 -0700 Subject: Sinister: justify the reason behind your style Message-ID: <199810141914.MAA18702@scv2.apple.com> Is there a B&S show date for the west coast (specifically San Francisco)? Mark. > >> all of a sudden, there are all these good shows happening! belle and >> sebastian, rachel's, cat power...and i missed fantastic plastic machine, who >i > >OOOOHHHHH, let's not talk about the Rachel's show. I tried getting a >ticket yesterday for the PJ Harvey show in SF that they're opening up for, >and they're sold out (damn that Polly Jean!). I've wanted to see them for >the last two years, and now I'm out of luck. Unless any of you are >undercover ticket dealers... > >Sniffling and sad, >mrjake >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Wed Oct 14 21:59:54 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 21:59:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: World domination Message-ID: <199810142058.VAA02855@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Page 75 of todays Daily Mail has the headline; "Stateside revolution is next on hit-list as Murdoch prepares for world domination". I was about Rupert, buying US football teams rather than Stuart taking over the states but it made me laugh none the less. Jake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LeeannJea at xxx.com Wed Oct 14 22:32:08 1998 From: LeeannJea at xxx.com (LeeannJea at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 17:32:08 EDT Subject: Sinister: the revolution will be carbonated!! Message-ID: <82aaccc9.36251858@aol.com> hi there boys and girls, oh, I forgot how much I dug this list, do you people realize that in the last few days alone, there have been references to Minneapolis' own mushroom of love Prince, the fantastic Adorable, *and* the worst protest singer ever, Phil Ochs? plus, who could forget the heart-stirring "We Are The World"? that record totally primed a new generation of kids to become Bob Dylan fans, by the age of 5, I was wow-ing my kindergarten classmates with a stunningly accurate rendition of Dylan's lines in that song... yeah, they all dug me back then 'cause I knew my opposites *and* I could draw houses in 3-D, too! onward, onward... quoth the duke: << it seems to me that people have forgotten something recently, and that is, well, just how listening to Belle & Sebastian can make you FEEl. >> listening to Belle and Sebby reminds me of the Sunday morning when I was a young 'un and my mom was still asleep, how my sister and I pushed the couch to the bottom of the stairs, climbed up to the highest step, and pounced down on it, over and over, giggling constantly, and how I damn near bit my tounge off when I bumped my head on the back of the couch upon landing. explaining, perhaps, my empathy for and digging of people with speech impediments. quoth someone else: << (Oh my god, Stu D sent me an email the other day!, how good is that!) >> argh, and my pulse still quickens when I get an e-mail from david or katrina. ;) oh, I was so disappointed, I wore my Belle and Sebby t-shirt out on the town yesterday, and *absolutely no* dark-haired shy cutie-pie boys or girls with cookie crumbs on their collars came up and embraced me and gushed to me about how darling Belle and Sebby are. *agonypainsob!* I love you all, leeann * * * * if you have an extra ticket to belle and sebby's November 2nd show in new york city, won't you please be a dear and get in touch with me? - leeannjea at aol.com - thank you! * * * * +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From twilton at xxx.uk Wed Oct 14 22:55:03 1998 From: twilton at xxx.uk (Timothy Wilton) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 22:55:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: tigermilk, anyone? also my zine and boston Message-ID: <000e01bdf7bd$4d4b44e0$0beab094@oemcomputer> -----Original Message----- From: Bluvelour at xxx.com> To: sinister at majordomo.net Date: 23 September 1998 00:49 Subject: Sinister: tigermilk, anyone? also my zine and boston > >thing one: if anyone would like me to make them a copy of tigermilk, i have a >bootlegged cd that sounds divine i can make copies from. all i ask in return >is a mix tape or especially some belle and sebastian rarities (of which i have >none). just let me know; i'm at your disposal. >thing two: i'd enjoy recieving poems, short stories, reviews, articles, photos >or drawings that you'd like to see in a zine my boyfriend and i are compiling >entitled "serotonin." so let me know about whatever imaginative and genuis and >creative stuff you have stowed under your bed. >thing three: i'm going to the boston belle and sebastian show on the 21st of >october, so if anyone feels like starting a correspondence beforehand and >possibly meeting up there, i'm all for it. >that's it... >x's, o's, and spaceships. >*cindy >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > I saw this, shouted "hurrah" and then wrote : >ME PLEASE! > >Where did you find that, you lucky devil you? I would give all my back >teeth and several other peoples to get hold of a copy, but if all you want >is a mix-tape then you've found your man anyway. As far as B&S rarities >goes I'm pretty dry, except for the looper single which is Stuart David's >side project and has a different version of 'A Spaceboy Dream' on it. I've >got all the E.P's as wel if you don'r have them. Anyway, enough of this >blabbering. Just drop me an E-mail and tell me what to do and if there's >anything particular you want a copy of or what other music you're into and a >couple of tapes will be wending their merry way down to you in the blink of >an eye. > >"Say cheerio to books now, >The only things I'll read are faces" > > >Awaiting on Y'all > >James If this got lost in the post then here it is, if it didn't then here it is again. Sorry to be a pest! Hope that you haven't had too many people begging Tigermilk copies. If you simply can't be bothered with it any more then that's fine, but if you could dropp me a line then that would make at least a couple of my days. Thanks again. Love James. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From smfisher at xxx.edu Wed Oct 14 22:54:49 1998 From: smfisher at xxx.edu (Stephanie) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 17:54:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: yet *another* review Message-ID: In the Flagpole today they had a review of TBWTAS. For those of you who don't know, the Flagpole is like a free local Athens "entertainment"-type newspaper thing. I haven't read the review yet, so I don't know if it's good or well-written or not, but here it is: BELLE AND SEBASTIAN The Boy With The Arab Strap Matador Belle and Sebastian are the auditory equivalent of a warm blanket. Last year's full-length _If You're Feeling Sinister_, as well as three subsequent EPs, have transcended hipster boundaries worldwide and attracted a devoted and ever-growing cult of listeners who have been labeled, by publications such as the _Village Voice_, as born-again Smiths fans. The music of Belle and Sebastian belies that narrow definition, though, as this Glasgow octet play very well-crafted, catchy pop songs invested with a real sense of intimacy and delicacy. The result is something that sounds like Nick Drake crossed with Tommy Boyce and Bobby Hart. Lyrically, Belle and Sebastian are apt to be too clever by half and a tad precious, but when this band is firing on all cylinders--as they were the majority of time on _Sinister_--it's about as perfect as pop music gets. It was inevitable, then, that Belle and Sebastian's new release, _The Boy With The Arab Strap_, would have a difficult time living up to _Sinister_'s grandeur. While the songs on this new album generally aren't as strong as the band's previous work, they are a great deal more fleshed out than the spare arrangements found on _Sinister_, incorporating lush strings and organs--and on "Sleep The Clock Around", bagpipes from the motherland--into most of the tracks. Lead singer/songwriter Stuart Murdoch shares vocal duties with his bandmates this time around as well, helping move Belle and Sebastian closer to a fully-functioning, collaborative octet rather than just the group of friends Murdoch originally assembled to help augment his songs. This more collaborative, wizened affair leads to some interesting highlights, including the Stevie Jackson-sung "Seymour Stein", a lovely melancholy tune that sounds like it could be an outtake from VU's _Loaded_ (featuring a humorous riff on Johnny Marr's lackluster project Electronic--for all those born-again Smiths fans). Other great moments include the carousel-like cacophony that emerges from the background as Murdoch sings happily of "seven weeks of staying up all night" in "A Summer Wasted" [shouldn't that be Wasting-steph], the shuffle and twisted sexuality of the title track (go ask your parents what an "arab strap" is) grounded on a bassline spryly barreling forth from the '70s classic "Draggin' the Line", and the lonely piano that emerges halfway through "The Rollercoaster Ride", and continues to play long after the vocals have ceased. The real keeper here, though, is "Dirty Dream Number Two". As good a pop song as you'll hear this year, it's Dusty Springfield with whispered vocal. Spector without the Wagner, and closer to a Bacharach-David song in 1998 than anything Elvis Costello's own collaboration with Burt is going to muster up, all driven by a backbeat right out of 1965. In the last 55 seconds of the song, as the strings and horns ride the beat, soaring forward and higher, your heart soars with them, and it's almost as good as that first crush, that first slow dance, that first kiss. This is why God gave us pop music. (625 Broadway, 12th floor, New York, NY 10012) James Blount Okay, that was it. *Whew!* My fingers are really tired now. Cheers & love, Stephanie "Even when I was a tiny girl, I preferred being alone...I could give my imagination free rein and live in a world of lovely dreams"--Greta Garbo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From heinitz at xxx.net Wed Oct 14 23:59:25 1998 From: heinitz at xxx.net (Heinitz) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 98 22:59:25 GMT Subject: Sinister: cheese content Message-ID: <981014225925.n0001635.heinitz@mail.clara.net> the favourite cheese of my cat Josephine is white cheshire cheese, nice and crumbly. i am not such a conneisseur (is that spelt right?), but i do like a good bit of jarlsberg at christmas. i listened to that northern soul radio programme, it made my ears happy. now i don't know if i want to buy a northern soul compilation or something by Soft Cell. judging by today's trawl round the shops, the latter is much easier to find. love abi, whose socks are in a neat little pile outside the sandpit, she doesn't like to get them sandy. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LeeannJea at xxx.com Wed Oct 14 23:20:16 1998 From: LeeannJea at xxx.com (LeeannJea at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 18:20:16 EDT Subject: Sinister: Velvet toilet Tissue, so soft on yer arse.... Message-ID: the lovely and talented sarah took the words right out of my mouth: > >Why is it acceptible to go after people who are overweight? > > Exactly! Basically it's HELLO mister western society predujice - based > just as much on economic market factors, diet industry, food industry, > face it, the way you feel is a business chicas. If everyone was happy > with themselves, why gosh! What the fuck would happen to the world? wow, can I get an "amen"? imagine what would happen if everyone woke up tomorrow and decided they were ok with how they, and everyone else looked? billion-dollar industries would collapse! no more anorexic teens on the chat shows, it'd be all sexual dysfunction, all the time! I might actually stand a chance with my heart-stoppingly beautiful dream boy!! ;) > After all I've done, I still don't know why thinness should be valued > so much, where in the history of the world has thinness been a > value? Perhaps related to class with upper classes being thin.... > fat people are perhaps subconsciously resented, geee I don't know. In countries where the birthrate is highest, the "ideal" woman is *way* heavier than the "ideal" woman in America, cause a heavier woman communicates fertility and health - important characteristics in a mother. but in countries where the birthrate is lower, so is the "ideal" weight of a woman. in a weird sort of way, I think thinness might represent a liberation from the traditional, confining role of mother, the sign of an upwardly mobile woman who has set herself apart from the breeding masses. I think the obsession with thinness is really creepy, because being dangerously thin (as most models are) takes away all your secondary sex characteristics - hips, breasts, body fat - and it makes you look child-like again. maybe the way some men fetishize thin women has something to do with wanting a frail, child-like creature, easy to dominate and totally non-threatening. I don't know. > Read Fat is a Feminist Issue to find out more, yeah, also read "Where The Girls Are" by Susan J Douglas, it's about growing up a girl with the mass media, and it's not pretentious at all. it's so fantastic, she has this theory that the Beatles were so beloved because they were this totally modern fusion of male and female gender codes, and they were actually a trojan horse smuggling sexual rebellion into the sleeping fortress of American morality! woo-hoo! the chapter on the psychology of the catfight is also very illuminating... love! leeann * * * * if you have an extra ticket to belle and sebby's November 2nd show in new york city, won't you please be a dear and get in touch with me? - leeannjea at aol.com - thank you! * * * * +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 00:14:43 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:14:43 EDT Subject: Sinister: Slight Return (The unbearable funkiness of being) Message-ID: <2d9b4c7e.36253063@aol.com> Hello Popkids, Eating properly? Not too much cheese? Good good. My local cheese-mobile does big lumps of a funny beige cheese, about the consistancy of cheddar,and about the size of a pub, but when you bite into it...Wow! It's made with milk and Marmite! Yay! Neatly combining two long running list threads in one tasty sandwich. Yum yum. I hope you've all been catching lots of buses and looking winsome in my absence- I, correspondingly, have been entertaining jumper-wearing girls at bus stops for the length of a regal cigarette, and then walking away in a cool, unobtainable way. It's been an amusing few days. erm...Julie Christie? Fantastic. I particularly like that film of Farenheit 451, where everyone goes about in monorails, it's so cool+futuristic daddio. Julie plays two people in that film as I recall, one character with long hair, the other with short hair. I have a picture on my wall torn from an acting manual, it's a photostat of Rodney (Bob Ferris) Bewes' Spotlight entry (The Spotlight's a photo directory of thesps.) There's a picture of Rodney wearing a dog and a Captain Birdseye beard, and an identical one of Rodney+doggy and no Captain Birdseye beard. 'Versatility- the actor's greatest tool' reads the caption.... This mail's not very good I'm afraid- I've been away, so I don't know what the cool set are talking about :-) Full marks to the person who quoted the absolutely irresistable fannies in their subject line- I didn't see who it was, sorry. And that line's from 'Radio', isn't it? Off the flop LP, 'Thirteen'...full cred points, I feel. 'Thirteen' is their best LP by far, IMHO. The NME said that they've been trying desperately to get other 'Glasgow' bands like the fannies and, er well known 'Glaswegians' Arab Strap to dish dirt on our beloved B&S. Now they say they're so desperate for info that they'll pay, or something like that...Mmm. I could do with some money....shame that there's no juicy gossip to sell. Maybe I should make some up, 'cause ''Belle and Sebastian seem like very nice people'' will not pay my rent, oh no. FEY BAND REALLY JUST A COVER FOR CHURCH HALL BASED INTERNATIONAL DRUGS AND SMUTTY BOOKS CARTEL SHOCKER!!!!!!! Now that would sell papers! Someone slip a copy of Razzle into Isobel's violin case, quick. I need to eat! That isn't what I meant to say at all, you know. I only popped in to say goodbye. It's been fun you know, and I thought it only fair and polite to say byebye properly, rather than rushing off in a big huff. I won't be picking up mail regularly after tomorrow, but feel free to write, I will get back to you eventually. And I may come back later, if I find a computer to borrow, and if I get homesick, so this isn't goodbye, it is merely bonjour, as Del Boy would probably say. Anyway, some friends are coming to keep you all company, they may be here already, I don't know. Some of you know Fred, and some of you know Mel, from pubs and picnics. Be nice to them. (Fred, by the way, is on Page 4 of this week's NME, in a little photo, where he's dancing with a maniac at the Xfm demo, looking very much like a happier Che Guevara.) I'd leave you with a Bus Polaroid, but I only paint buses these days, smudging the paint as I go, so the picture looks like it's going brrrrrrrrrrr!!!!, like buses do when they stop halfway up the hill, and you press your nose against the window and your whole face goes brrrrrrrrrr!!! and your teeth all rattle together. Instead, here's a Ink Pubaroid, for the steaming alkies who requested it. It's a real pub, in Berwick St Market and anyone who fancies taking their own snaps of it will probably find me in there, looking at the world through the viewfinder of a beer glass, most days of the week. ************************************************************* I took this one on a Wednesday lunchtime, though it looks like a Sunday afternoon. The dust is falling very very slowly through a beam of unexpected sunlight; settling slowly like Guinness. In the centre of the shot you can clearly see an old man, propped in the corner seat by the door, his taut, hairy brown arms crossed gently over his chest, his cap tipped over his sleeping eyes. The sunlight is writing WATNEYS in shadow across the table, and through the open door, you can see a crate of grapefruit on a trolley, ripening in the sun where he left them. ************************************************************** byebye kids, and thank you, especially *you* honey child. I'll miss you all a lot. seb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From csomeone at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 01:24:42 1998 From: csomeone at xxx.com (Cynthia Someone) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 17:24:42 PDT Subject: Sinister: yet another review Message-ID: <19981015002443.23726.qmail@hotmail.com> Stephanie quotes Greta Garbo: "Even when I was a tiny girl, I preferred being alone...I could give my imagination free rein and live in a world of lovely dreams"--Greta Garbo. I could have sworn the quote went: " ...give my imagination free rein and live in a world of lovely cheese" Also: What Is Moog? Not the moogs, just moog, or is that a band as well, as in what is that, and how can Buffalo Daughter and belle and sebby both have a sparse amount of moog, as reviews have described them both as lacking, the two bands having little to do with the other. I have decided it's some sort of Post-beckian term, to be thrown about by reviewers to look cool and to sound "in-the-know". Is it some strange pedal? A reference to sampling? something they just made up for kicks to laugh at us poor suburbians with our bad haircuts and poor supply of decent Indian food? Although it's really not so bad, if anyone were to step into Urban Outfitters in Berkeley, you'll see they've made their entire store look like the cover art for Spiritualized's "ladies and Gentleman, we're floating in space". Absolutely horrific. Copying is such a bore, it's dissapointing. Nothing else here, no sweetnesses, really, I haven't had a cookie today, although i've wanted one since yesterday, the shortbread kind with strawberry jam filling. No, jsut a couple of laughs from Infinite Jest, by david foster wallace, which has a way of explaining the absurdities of American Life, including all current (embarassing) government affairs. That and a couple of mushies from the lovely list. I'm glad everyone's starting to get along. Cynthia ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 01:30:21 1998 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:30:21 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: Sticking up for Dog on Wheels In-Reply-To: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22289E8E@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Message-ID: > And String Bean Jean - my god, that song rocks my proverbial; apart from > Le Pastie, which rescues the relatively disappointing 3,6,9...EP, it's > the song I most look forward to hearing in the world at the moment. "String Bean Jean" is merely a nice track, but to me nothing on the "Dog on Wheels" EP (with the notable exception of "The State I Am In") can touch the other records. Of course some time has passed, but there is at least an EP's worth of unreleased songs which beat DOW. (Plus, the DOW EP came with the sting of discovering they had released an entire album which had gone totally unnoticed by me and the several fans at Reckless in Chicago where I often shop. As I suggested earlier, after hearing _Tigermilk_, "Dog on Wheels" sounded weaker.) Now "3...6...9...Seconds of Light" is disappointing? We will have to agree to disagree, since I think that is the most consistent of the 3 EPs. The first two tracks of "Lazy Line Painter Jane" hit higher highs, but let's just say that when I picked up my specially-ordered CDS after having the 7" a couple of weeks, I didn't feel like I'd been missing out on -too- much. Of course it doesn't get much better than "You Made Me Forget My Dreams". I would love to hear additional (past, present, or future) recordings made in that space -- a local church was it? Sounds like an old-fashioned recording where they put the band in a great-sounding room, with stereo mic, and let them play it like they mean it. Great match of material and technique....hope they keep that in mind when it's time for a live album. --Mark +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 70204923 at xxx.ca Thu Oct 15 02:39:51 1998 From: 70204923 at xxx.ca (Sebastian) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 20:39:51 EST Subject: Sinister: pavement Message-ID: pavement ist rad...aaaaaah yeah +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From m.wimbury at xxx.uk Thu Oct 15 01:43:46 1998 From: m.wimbury at xxx.uk (MATTHEW WIMBURY) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 01:43:46 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Lots of stuff... Message-ID: <199810150043.BAA21243@unixb.lancs.ac.uk> Well I've not posted anything for ages. It's not been a very inspiring time, back at uni, final year, french studies, lots of work to do, i enjoy it but it takes so much time all this stuff. Anyway, I've just about been able to keep up with the list, but nothing much very interesting has been said recently and my delete button has had fun too. In fact the sessions posts and the dog on wheels thing has been the only bit of note in a month. I mean, i guess its important for some of you but who wants to meet up with such and such a person in toronto/san francisco/mars isn't of much interest to me is it now? I think Dog On Wheels is a brilliant song, and a very good ep overall, and i think the state i am in demo is better than the tigermilk version. I think that 3..6..9 is even better, and that LLPJ is the worst of the 3 but still rocks, and i have to disagree with what it seems is the vast majority, who say that you made me forget my dreams is lovely and one of their best! Never in 4 billion years. I like it as it's them and it isnt bad but definitely one of their lesser efforts. Nothing on Photo Jenny. Finally would anyone like to (senses everyone think "not after the load of boring senseless shite you've just written mate") record me some Pastels or V-Twin or Hefner and I'll trade something or send spare tapes? Pretty please? And a copy of Rhoda anyone if it exists? And to the person who recorded me Snow Patrol i need your address to send you stuff do i not? Yes, thank you :) It's not that I'm not interested in anyone's lives you know. In fact some of the little tales have been very entertaining and we have some fab writers on this list and it really rules in general, just the stories have been a bit crap of late. Sorry my posts are all practical and music (especially b+s) related without really having much life to them, may get round to that sometime. Well be good and be safe chickens. Email me, I'm lovely really. lots of love Matt. "boo to the business world" (I'm gonna write that on a wall outside our uni careers service next time i have to visit the bastard thing) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From komis at xxx.edu Thu Oct 15 02:10:27 1998 From: komis at xxx.edu (Dmitry Komis) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 20:10:27 -0500 Subject: Sinister: PJ HARVEY TONIGHT! Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19981014201027.007a97d0@students.uiuc.edu> hello all, i dont know if anyone cares.....but for all U.S. people out there....miss polly jean herself will be on the tonight show with leno tonight! thats all you're not rid of me, dmitry +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 02:33:50 1998 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 20:33:50 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: compression In-Reply-To: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22289E8E@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Message-ID: Someone mentioned something earlier about TBWTAS taking a bit longer to put together because of something to do with compression. It was all quite vague, but maybe I can offer some explanation. A compressor squashes the dynamics of the signal you pass through it. Sometimes that can be very desirable. For example, to get a longer sustain on a bass guitar, or to even-out inconsistent playing. However, compression inevitably deadens the signal a little. One of the cues that tells your brain a sound is real is the dynamic range, especially the loud peaks. The downside is even CD is only marginally capable of capturing the quietest and the loudest moments of say a symphony orchestra. Ever notice sometimes when you are making a mixtape or something, that on some songs the meters just about sit at 0dB? That's a heavily compressed mix. Ever notice how then you put on another track, and the peaks go higher and yet it doesn't seem as loud as the other song? That mix isn't compressed (or rather, not as much). It is one of the ironies of digital music reproduction that compression and limiting are used as much as, and perhaps more than ever. Give the engineers 96dB of dynamic range (versus mabye 70-some dB on vinyl), and what happens? They just squash the signal with greater precision. If by some chance I were called upon to record the band, I'd want to do one of two things: 1) set them up in that church(?) with just a stereo mic and maybe a couple other, mono mics for reinforcement; or 2) compress the drums and bass guitar, mainly on the louder songs (to give the rhythm section a nice, solid sound that an ordinary stereo can reproduce) but leave most everything else as-is going to tape...possibly some soft limiting on the vocals so the quiet parts don't get lost and the loud parts don't stand out too much. --Mark "a little compression goes a long way" Kolmar __ October 19th: SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ajax at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 02:42:01 1998 From: ajax at xxx.com (Jake Reichert) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 18:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: record-o-thon Message-ID: <199810150142.SAA01974@atari.saturn5.com> Has anyone ever sat down and tried to listen to all the cd's/7's/whatever by a favorite band of theirs all at once? (I'm sure there are more than a few people on the list who have tried this with B&S...) I guess with B&S it would be fairly easy, what with the total amount of music coming in at (I'm guessing) around 2-1/2 to 3 hours? Kind of gives you an interesting view of where they were back then, where they're at now, etc. However, one day I was doing a major cleanup project on my room and decided, "I've got a lot of time. Why don't I try it with a band that has a lot of stuff out?" So I made the mistake of picking OMD. Much as I love them, 9 albums and two cd's of b-sides is an astonishing amount of music to try to cram into your head at once. I think I made it through "The Pacific Age" or so before I started going completely batshit. At least I didn't try for the Cure... -mrjake It's late. I'm still at work. Ignore me if you wish. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ajax at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 02:47:15 1998 From: ajax at xxx.com (Jake Reichert) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 18:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: compression In-Reply-To: from "Mark Kolmar" at Oct 14, 98 08:33:50 pm Message-ID: <199810150147.SAA02250@atari.saturn5.com> > If by some chance I were called upon to record the band, I'd want to do > one of two things: 1) set them up in that church(?) with just a stereo mic > and maybe a couple other, mono mics for reinforcement; or 2) compress the > drums and bass guitar, mainly on the louder songs (to give the rhythm > section a nice, solid sound that an ordinary stereo can reproduce) but > leave most everything else as-is going to tape...possibly some soft > limiting on the vocals so the quiet parts don't get lost and the loud > parts don't stand out too much. > I'd like to add one more that keeps the sound from being dull and flat while still providing something in return. Sometimes when there is silence following the vocals, you will hear background hiss, electric humming, etc. One technique to eliminate this is to set the compressor threshold to just below the level of the vocals, and have it cut off anything lower than that. I think that's enough techno-weenie-speak from me for one day. -mrjake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jmurphy at xxx.Edu Thu Oct 15 02:50:37 1998 From: jmurphy at xxx.Edu (Jessica Murphy) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 21:50:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: journo, jean, john... Message-ID: Just my thoughts/reactions for the day: Stephanie reported that someone in The Flagpole wrote: "...your heart soars with them, and it's almost as good as that first crush, that first slow dance, that first kiss." Yes, yes, yes. Someone on Wheels said: "And String Bean Jean - my god, that song rocks my proverbial;..." One of these days I'm going to get into the voting booth, and this song (among many others, of course) is going to get very high marks from me. I adore it and I can't listen to it without singing along. Lady Penelope sighed: "...over on channel four john boy walton was out covering the explosion of the hindenberg and looking hotter by the minute (no pun intended)." Well, here I must disagree. I've personally always had a thing for Jason -- SO sweet-tempered and sensible, plus he's "the musical one" in the family. Even when I was about six years old and playing with Waltons paper-dolls, I liked him best. Cheese content: Um, none. jessica m +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From User864786 at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 02:53:21 1998 From: User864786 at xxx.com (User864786 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 21:53:21 EDT Subject: Sinister: Lots of stuff... Message-ID: <9c73d969.36255591@aol.com> Good evening, Believe it or not, Belle and Sebastian have reached all corners of the world. If a man from Utah enjoys B&S, then they must have achieved some sort of recognition, right? I do think I am the only fan of this fine band within the state, however. B&S never receive any radio play on the local alternative stations. Many, if not all, haven't heard of B&S at all. Anyway, it's great to find solace amongst fellow listeners. The music finds a place in one's soul and doesn't leave. I thoroughly enjoy the intelligent lyrics, soothing instrumentation and witting feel of both CDs. They have become my favorites in a short time frame. Awesome! I look forward to all the conversations contained within this mailing list: Sinister. Please spread the love of life. Shawn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Thu Oct 15 03:13:36 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 22:13:36 -0400 Subject: Sinister: This EP is better than that EP! References: Message-ID: <36255A50.1D2697CD@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Mark Kolmar wrote: > "String Bean Jean" is merely a nice track, but to me nothing on the "Dog > on Wheels" EP (with the notable exception of "The State I Am In") can > touch the other records. Of course some time has passed, but there is at > least an EP's worth of unreleased songs which beat DOW. (Plus, the DOW EP > came with the sting of discovering they had released an entire album which > had gone totally unnoticed by me and the several fans at Reckless in > Chicago where I often shop. As I suggested earlier, after hearing > _Tigermilk_, "Dog on Wheels" sounded weaker.) > > Now "3...6...9...Seconds of Light" is disappointing? We will have to > agree to disagree, since I think that is the most consistent of the 3 EPs. > The first two tracks of "Lazy Line Painter Jane" hit higher highs, but > let's just say that when I picked up my specially-ordered CDS after having > the 7" a couple of weeks, I didn't feel like I'd been missing out on > -too- much. > > Of course it doesn't get much better than "You Made Me Forget My Dreams". This is a really silly thing to discuss. You can't rightly say "this EP had nothing on this EP, because this song is awful, but this one is soooooo cool," because another person will have an entirely different opinion of things. You like certain songs better than I do, it's nothing that needs argued about. /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at oak.cats.ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Thu Oct 15 03:31:36 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 22:31:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: It's another love P.O.P. Message-ID: hi kiddos keith said: >list, Blaxploitation 1, A Grand Love Story, by Kid Loco - featuring a >cracking Captain Beefheart sample from the great "Further than we've gone", >goes down in my book as the most odd sample source I've ever heard. The well, that's a mark up for it. but how's the album as a whole? and is it going to be released in the states? i'd have to know it's amazing before i cough up the import price, though i love the song "love me sweet". >Three EP's by the Beta Band, which is miles miles better than 4 Big >Speakers, by Whale, showing once and for all, that 3 is a better number >than 4. It's a magic number after all. I got the best of the Orb - U.F.Off, wait just a minute there mr watson.. have you heard "4 big speakers" yet? ok, so i'm not supposed to like a band who writes a song about a hobo humpin slobo babe, but the new single is way good! brian liked it to, on first listen, which is a rare privlige normally reserved for the likes of natalie imbruglia, texas and the spice girls. anyway, they're supposed to be at cmj, so i think i'll try to check them out. cmj is looking way cool this year. and the members of whale are swedes, so you've got to be nice. cause everyone knows that tag is the defender of swedes and will attack viscously if their honor is hurt. you've been warned. xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 07:20:22 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:20:22 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Budding new B&S website Message-ID: <009e01bdf803$e4f08440$d99fcdcf@brier> OUCH from the kitchen for shooting down someone's sweet little dream of making their own B&S website. I think anyone's tribute to the band should be applauded, providing it doesn't break any of those big bad copyright laws. to say "That already exists, we did it already, don't bother" is kinda harsh and not what I thought was in keeping with the band who made their first album as a school project. but maybe I misunderstood. but whoever was trying to start that cute lil' site, I'll gladly give my picture as requested, as soon as I get a decent photo! you CAN make a website with a sponge and a rusty scanner. isn't variety ok? i have the Monty Python skit "cheese shop" on CD (.....the cat's eaten it!) and if i ever get on a tape tree i'll surely put it on a mix for someone. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Thu Oct 15 09:49:43 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:49:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Updated FAQ, the MOOG. Message-ID: <01BDF821.2361E7B0.keith@qss.co.uk> >Also: What Is Moog? Not the moogs, just moog, or is that a band as well, >as in what is that, and how can Buffalo Daughter and belle and sebby >both have a sparse amount of moog, as reviews have described them both >as lacking, A Moog is a small pig like creature, but with dog's ears, sort of hairy ears, it speaks in a low voice and bounces through the forest going about it's merry business. It's friends with a cat called Carwash. Alternatively, it's one of the earliest synthesizers, used in for example Wendy (born Walter) Carlos's "Switched on Bach" in 1967. Also, here's an updated FAQ here which has been updated (naturally) thanks to help from some people... 1. What is Tigermilk, where can I get a copy? Tigermilk is the bands first album and was released around about May 1996. It was released as part of a Stow College course whereby Alan Rankine (of the Associates) fronts up the cash to record a single every year, although with Belle and Sebastian they decided that there was enough material for an album, hence Tigermilk. There were only 1000 copies pressed and so the record is worth a lot of money now. The band have always mantained that Tigermilk will be re-released at some point, and this will definitely be the case, currently likely that about March 1999, although this may change. 2. Who is the guest singer on Lazy Line Painter Jane? The female singer on Lazy Line Painter Jane is Monica Queen, formerly of countryish Glasgow band Thrum. Thrum released a record a few years ago, about 1994 I think. Last I heard she was recording with her own band which is called "Monica", or at least that's what it was called in February 1997. Here's a list of releases. "Purify" 7", "Thrum" / "Here I am" / "So glad" 12"/CDs and the "Rifferama" LP/CD 3. What is "Elvis" in A Century of Elvis. No-one knows bar the author really, but it's probably a cat, perhaps a tortoise, maybe actually Elvis, maybe it's Tortelvis from Dread Zeppelin who knows, and to be quite honest, who cares. 4. Who is in the band... Stuart Murdoch - singing guitar, trumpet apparently now, for the twin lead trumpet effect. Isobel Campbell - singing, cello, various Sarah Martin - violin, weird things Stevie Jackson - Guitar, piano, singing. Stuart David - Bass Mick Cooke - Trumpet, various Chris Geddes - keyboards Richard Colburn - Drums Neil Robertson has been known to play bass on Stuart David's "Spaceboy Dream", which brings me on to... 5. What other bands have members of Belle and Sebastian involved in? There's quite a number of things here. I'm sure it's not complete either, it's just what I can remember off hand. Chris Geddes : currently V-Twin and Golden Rodeo (think that's what they're called). Has played on Arab Strap records. V-Twin have released two singles (to my knowledge), Gifted, and a 12", In the land of the Pharoes. Mick Cooke : Used to play with Hardbody, who released two singles on Epic (On your own, Hazel's hob). Now plays with the Karelia and the Amphetameanies. Has also played on releases by Mojave 3, Ex-Cathedra. Probably others too. Stuart Murdoch : Played on releases by Polarbear and Arab Strap. Previously : (Early) Digger$, Lisa Helps The Blind, Rhode Island. Richard Colburn : Has played with Polarbear/Snowpatrol Isobel Campbell : Has played on Arab Strap records, also played on the Snowpatrol record. Stuart David : Stuart David has a side project called "Looper". There has been one single released on Sub-pop singles club called "Impossible things" and there is an album planned. 6. What records have been released? Tigermilk (LP) May 1996 If you're feeling sinister (LP) November 1996 Dog on Wheels (EP) April 1997 Lazy Line Painter Jane (EP) June 1997 3,6,9 Seconds of Light (EP) October 1997 The Boy with the Arab Strap (LP) September 1998 7. What's that song at the end of the 3,6,9 seconds of light EP called. It's called "Songs for Children". 8. What about all these unreleased songs that people keep belting on about in order to make themselves look smart? Pocketbook Angel London has let me down Hurley's having dreams These are little demos of old songs that will as far as we know, never ever be released as Belle and Sebastian. Loneliness of the middle distance runner Modern Rock song Rhoda People around the place have tapes of various different versions of these, they've been kicking around for a while and they may well be released reasonably soon, there are numerous different versions of the Loneliness of the middle distance runner. I Know where the summer goes The Gate These two will probably be a part of the next single 9. What sessions have they done on the radio? The first session was around about September 1996 here Mark Lamarr sat in for Mark and Lard at night... They played Judy and the dream of horses Like Dylan in the movies The State that I am in The stars of track and field The second was about February 1997 on Mark + Lard's program again and they played : I could be dreaming Seeing other people (slow version) We rule the school Modern Rock song The third was on Steve Lamacq's evening session and they played : Lazy Line Painter Jane Sleep the clock around Slow Graffiti Seymour Stein They did one of Stevie Jackson's tracks "Wrong Love" one night when the evening session was live from Glasgow. Apparently this is now called "Wrong Girl", will it be called "Wrong Sheep" at some point in the future? The fourth less well known session was on Peter Easton's Radio Scotland music program where he played : The Loneliness of the middle distance runner Slow Graffiti Modern Rock song. 10. Who is Tigermilk dedicated to? Tigermilk is dedicated to Lawrence Bradby, who's a friend of Stuart's. I dunno how frequently asked this question is, but it certainly was asked frequently recently as regards a competition on French radio. 11. Are Belle and Sebastian twee? No, they rock. 12. Dog on Wheels, what's the story there then? Well it's not really Belle and Sebastian on that EP, as you'll see if you have a look at who played on it. Here's the story: All the songs on the EP were recorded some time, either at the end of '95, or start of '96, at Beat Box studios, which is where Stuarts Murdoch and David were doing a doley sound engineering course at the time. Pretty much everyone who plays on it were on the course as well, apart from Mick. One of the guys who ran the studio was Alan Rankine, of Stow College, and Electric Honey Records, which is where he came in. So hopefully that'll put an end to the word of loads of hoary old session musicians playing on it, just kids who were on the course. Makes the recording of that EP sounds less like an episode of Rock School doesn't it. Many thanks to Andreas Hering, Mick Cooke, Chris Leonard and Philippe Garnier for help with parts of this document. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 10:26:08 1998 From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (Michael Jones) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 02:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Top 10 cheeses Message-ID: <19981015092608.601.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> 1. Ganymede Drip - mined from meteorites, allegedly 2. Rutland Flake - particularly pungent; can clear an inadequately ventilated aircraft hangar 3. Honeycomb Godmanchester - still one of the most expensive cheeses on the British market, sold by the molecule 4. Varicose Rhombus (full fat) - not so much in demand now the thirtysomething coronary has gone so firmly out of fashion 5. Neutered Hounslow Project - an early example of a lab-grown cheese; the wafers of interleaved edible metal are a nice touch 6. King Crimson - garish packaging and a prog-rock aftertaste, but surprisingly good washed down with a glass of 1972 Nyree Dawn Porter 7. Felchmaster Gray - ghastly; like inhaling gravel 8. Pale Shelter - Tears For Fears 9. 10. Oh yeah - the Moog. A very early monophonic synth, invented by Robert Moog. Actually pronounced 'Moag', but no-one seems to give a toss about this, not even Stereolab, who you think would know better, hence 'Moogie Wonderland', 'Yes Sir, I Can Moogie' and 'Electric Moogaloo'... Moiokoeg. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Oct 15 10:49:32 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:49:32 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Moving in Circles, Why Don't We Dilate? Message-ID: <01bdf821$1d3eb520$LocalHost@itjfvkli> For the benefit of overseas listees, Paul Gambaccini is a disc jockey on BBC Radio 1, or at least he was. His gimmick is the fact that he is American and, quite frankly, a twat. That's the formalities dealt with, let the rumour-mongering commence! Paul Gambaccini had "an affair" of the "live-in" variety with a young man I had the pleasure of going to school with, called Stevie. Now, Stevie boy was gay I guess, nothing more and nothing less, Stevie boy was (not) a friend of mine. Stevie was the kind of guy who would be regularly pummelled mercilessly by bullies to the accompaniment of banshee screams of "leave him alone!" from his devoted female companions, while everybody else stood around enjoying the spectacle. I would like to say that I leapt in to rescue Stevie from the bullies, but I didn't. To be honest, I thought he was a puff, and a big charley to boot. I didn't like him much, although it pains me to admit it now. However, he did gain a great deal of admiration from me one day when one of his neighbours' mothers asked him what school uniform consisted of for sixth formers and he replied "ankle warmers and pixie boots". Despite its name, Ashby-de-la-Zouch is not a good place for homosexuals, especially not super-camp ones like Stevie. So one day, like so many other misfits and outsiders, Stevie packed his bags and headed for the bright lights of London, where there are all kinds of things that there aren't in Ashby, such as Raymond's Revue Bar and the Poetry Cafe. It was in one such den of iniquity that Stevie met Paul Gambaccini. They became lovers.... Stevie looked a bit like Limahl, even after Limahl wasn't very famous anymore. I leave you to draw your own conclusions. But please don't conclude that I am anti-gay or anti-London or anti-American. You may, however, conclude that I am still pursuing my "Strawberries and Chocolate" line of psychological torture of Stephen Capri Pants. Older viewers may remember the sordid tale of Malcolm "Duke" Allured from Showaddywaddy's son. Stevie was in the same year as him, and they were both dead keen on New Romantics. And I'm not making this up, just to take the piss out of Stevie Jackson, but I must confess that the name Stevie has always made me think of Stevie, rather than Mister Jackson. Keith wrote: I've been wondering of late what the update on the Duke's book is - Mr.Fitchett - do we have the word on this? When's it coming out? I think you should change the title to "Young and Foolish (but right)". I'm looking forward to reading it. Keith, du bist ein Dumkopf! I can tell you don't hang around in Waterstones very often. Duke's book is mashing up the floor in all good bookshops. If the thought of entering such a palace of wisdom makes you nervous, you can find a scan of the cover, contents and ordering details on the Tangents website. It's cheaper too My order's in the post. Or it will be when I get round to posting it. There's no time like the present, is there? But I should go to Waterstones anyway, there's usually loads of intellectual totty about. love from, Peter Miller +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Thu Oct 15 11:14:11 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:14:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Sinister Film Company Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7BDC@COR-EXG1> ************************************************************************ *********************** "Stateside revolution is next on hit-list as Murdoch prepares for world domination". ************************************************************************ *********************** Coming soon to a cinema near you, Stuart Murdoch stars as Mega-Murdoch. Also featuring Steven Wells as Superstegasteven Wells. A Sinister film directed by Funkyseb. ************************************************************************ *********************** MM: Groooowwwwl...Ach I'm fed up with that wee Christopher Leonard portraying me as a real sweetie-pie gay type hero. (Eats Church) Grrrr....I'm gonnae get real nasty like that Honeymonster chappy and go kick some often quite slim US ass. MegaMurdoch leaves his Glasgow abode and heads towards the port of Loch Lunacy trampling a Salvation Army Band and generally leaving quite a lot of devastation behind him, though taking care to avoid the lovely flower bed in which a wee young Scots lad lies sleeping SSSW : Stop right there MegaMurdoch. You cannot enter the United States of America until you have given me an interview. I know we haven't seen eye-to-eye in the past, but I realise the error of my ways and my bosses won't let me home again until I've got an exclusive. Besides you look nothing like your passport photo. MM: oh yeah...whoops. SSSW : Whoops ? You're supposed to be an evil monster after world-domination. MM: oh yeah...whoops. SSSW : This just won't do will it ? MM: RRRRRRRRRRooooar. Och get out of my way you annoying balding twat. I've got an Empire State Building to terrorize and eat if my appetite so requires. MegaMurdoch swipes a huge back-hand blow with a super-powered Mega Melody Maker. MM: AAARRRRRR Take that ya wee bastard. SSSW : Ouch. MM: GRRRRRR No-one can stop me now, I'm thoroughly twe...I mean evil. Mega-Murdoch rips the Statue of Liberty from her perch and eats her in one gulp. SSSW : Ha !! You thought you had gotten rid of me little boy...take this... Superstegasteven Wells Spins and swipes MegaMurdoch with his Nuclear New Musical Express. MM : Ouch. You slap ya wee poof...EAT BOOT. Mega Murdoch steps on the unsuspecting Steven Wells crushing him and killing him instantly. All the young American children come out and dance for joy at the death of the ugly parasite and they take Mega Murdoch by the hand and all go off and have a picnic. This touch of love makes Mega Murdoch return to a state of normality and he becomes wee Stuart again, and he plays lots of concerts with his friends and rules the world...well..the school. FIN. Some poor lass wrote : >I might actually stand a chance with my heart-stoppingly beautiful dream boy!! ;) Nah! Sorry I'm taken.....coo hoo hoo tee hee hee. He's a hoot and he's in a suit. Adrian. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk Thu Oct 15 11:27:22 1998 From: Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk (Sarah Wheeler) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:27:22 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: No mushy peas Message-ID: <199810151027.LAA08307@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk> Well hello Funkyseb wrote: >The NME said that they've been trying desperately to get other 'Glasgow' bands >like the fannies and, er well known 'Glaswegians' Arab Strap to dish dirt on >our beloved B&S. Now they say they're so desperate for info that they'll pay, >or something like that... Not dirt so much, but kind of relevant.......picture the scene....Falkirk pub on friday evening......friend of a friend goes up to Malcolm Middleton (of Arab Strap) and asks his opinion of BOSSYTWAT.....Malcolm whimpers into his pint, "I thought we were supposed to be friends." Ah well, Malky, that's showbusiness!! Also, on the same Friday, late afternoon, is the guy who I saw walking down Byres Road with mum/sister/elder friend and dad/brother/elder friend and a Belle and Sebastian bus t-shirt on the list?? Were you on your way to the Grosvenor cafe in true B+S style.....we were off to Jack McPhee's (fresh from the sea) for a change.......a wonderful fish tea, and for half the price of Harry Ramsden's! You know, I just don't feel like working today Byeee Sarah x ======================= Sarah Wheeler Room 106 West Medical Building University of Glasgow GLASGOW G12 8QQ 0141-339 8855 ext.2860 ======================= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From User864786 at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 12:42:35 1998 From: User864786 at xxx.com (User864786 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:42:35 EDT Subject: Sinister: Question for those of you in the know? Message-ID: Hello, I am curious to know if there are any fans of the Red House Painters on this list? If so, please contact me, I have a few questions. Great band! So long, Shawn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 95djb2 at xxx.uk Thu Oct 15 12:45:25 1998 From: 95djb2 at xxx.uk (Dom) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:45:25 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: kid Loco In-Reply-To: <199810150850.JAA27845@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: megan wrote on "A Grand Love Story" by Kid Loco: > > well, that's a mark up for it. but how's the album as a whole? and is it > going to be released in the states? i'd have to know it's amazing before i > cough up the import price, though i love the song "love me sweet". The album is excellent, so mellow and relaxing when you've had a long day, or even if you've had a very short day where you only got up in the afternoon and just had lots of cups of tea. Lovely. Oh, and "A Grand Love Theme" and "She-Wolf Daydreaming" are just amazing. I got it last October or November sometime before it came out in the UK, and I'm pretty sure that was a US Import...are you sure it's not out over there? It could have been an import from somewhere else though, like France I guess. Anway, buy it buy it buy it... While I'm mailing - Megan I've got the St Etienne CD for you, but much as I trust the US Postal service I don't think it'll get to you addressed as "Megan Lehar, USA" ;) Bye kids Dom +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From thunderw at xxx.uk Thu Oct 15 13:07:37 1998 From: thunderw at xxx.uk (James) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:07:37 +0100 Subject: Sinister: afterglow...and tape plea Message-ID: Someone wrote: >Just for everyone's information, >Julie Christy is great in the film Afterglow, with Nick Nolte, Johnny Lee >Miller (for you Trainspotting fans), and Laura Flynn Boyle. Yes, this a quite lovely film. I'd reccommend it to all you sinisterines, especially the Julie Christie fans. It starts off very slowly, and you think it's going to be decidedly average, but then you get lost somewhere along the way, and wake up at the end thinking, "That was beautiful!". A lovely Tom Waits soundtrack too. I saw a wonderful Japanese film the other day called "Shall We Dance?", which you should all go and see too. Uplifting like Strictly Ballroom, only more subtle. And better dresses. Could someone in the UK possibly send me the unreleased tracks or radio sessions? I'm very happy to exchange if I've got anything that tickles your fancy, or send compilation tapes or whatever in return. Did anyone see Vic Chesnutt and Lambchop at the Electric Ballroom last night? They were wonderful. I had such a good time, despite collapsing from the heat about three times. That's all. Nice talking to you all again. I haven't written in ages. Love from Molly xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 14:14:30 1998 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 06:14:30 PDT Subject: Sinister: You Made Me Forget My Thighs Message-ID: <19981015131433.10720.qmail@hotmail.com> Since when do secondary sex characteristics denote beauty? Huh? Why are all the women in porno shaved, or most at least? Scary, I say. And seriously, at the first party I threw at my house I was talking about how the historical scale is now reversed, and those with money can afford to be thin while the poorer have to settle for fast food and tv dinners and wind up being horridly overweight, when my friend Jerry from 400 miles away strode in, plopped down on the couch, and yelled (in front of all my paraprofessional, uh, colleagues) "BITCH, BRING ME A CHICKEN POT PIE!" It was funny how every single one of them got up and said they really had to go all within a minute of each other. I mean, there was a queue to leave. I had to return a keg 95 percent full. But really it's nice that the beanpoles get their chance at being the queens, seeing as fat girls have had the rest of history to be the paragons of beauty. Not that this excuses eating disorders or anything. I really don't think the first thing that goes through a man's head when he sees a girl, consciously or unconsciously, is "God she could bear my offspring quite well couldn't she?" Though my sociobiology course contradicts that. Perhaps men now want a girl who =won't= bear any children. And you don't know about body image problems til you've been a man stuck with childbearing hips. Worse, a second-grader. Unnggh. I've come to accept that I'll never have a cowboy's ass. At least if you're a girl it's somewhat natural to have a pelvis like a wok. My favorite formative memory on body image was reading in Sassy an interview with J Mascis.... "How do you feel about girls with big asses?" "Any guy who's not weird will take as much as he can get." Ha! My dog loves rock and roll. And she's old! Whenever I really crank the stereo she just moves up and lays right by the subwoofer, and the only surefire way to get her in the house is to kick on my amp and play the most tinnitus-inducing guitar..... she runs (well sort of waddles) up and just puts her head right in the amplifier.... I'll test her response to TUBBYWARS tonight. She's easily the hippest 84-year-old I know. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paul.field at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 14:38:47 1998 From: paul.field at xxx.com (Paul Field) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:38:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Some girls are bigger than others Message-ID: <01BDF849.852D9520.paul.field@cmgplc.com> Corpora Aranacea wrote: I really don't think the first thing that goes through a man's head when he sees a girl, consciously or unconsciously, is "God she could bear my offspring quite well couldn't she?" Exactly! I know that's not the first thing that comes into my mind, that would be will she let me... no, that's not it either! She(?) also wrote: Unnggh. I've come to accept that I'll never have a cowboy's ass. You never know, I'm sure there are some very accomodating cowboys out there! (sorry, crap joke) Anyway, whilst everyne seems to be going on about not being nasty to people of a larger build, remember that it works the other way too. A friend of mine is skinny, and is rather paranoid about this. She may be small, but I'd rather stay out of her way after somebody has asked her 'Are you eating enough' - it's not a pretty sight. As she correctly says, you wouldn't go up to a fat person and say 'Are you eating too much?' Take care, Paulxx 'What's the ugliest part of your body? What's the ugliest part of your body? Some say your nose some say your toes but I think it's your mind' - Frank Zappa. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ETLRDHY at xxx.se Thu Oct 15 15:47:20 1998 From: ETLRDHY at xxx.se (ETLRDHY at xxx.se) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:47:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Pastels Message-ID: <0025669E.00511D92.00@notes.ericsson.se> Dear all, Has anybody heard the single b&s did with the Pastels? Was it any good? Who sang etc? TA xxxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atieger at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 15:09:22 1998 From: atieger at xxx.com (aaron tieger) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981015140922.416.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> A little help, please... Does anyone know what "Le Pastie de la Bourgoisie" translates as? It's the kind of question I hate asking, as (as a former English major I believe in dictionaries) but after consulting with several friends who claim fluency, two dictionaries, and the entire Wednesday afternoon staff of the Boston French Library, nobody knows. I suppose relative to "where am I going to get a job" or "is there such a thing as a bona fide soulmate" this isn't a big issue, but it's got me wondering. Thanks, Aaron === atieger at rocketmail.com auger/anvil "So goodbye, so long, the road calls me dear and your tears cannot bind me anymore And farewell to the girl with the sun in her eyes I'll kiss you and then I'll be gone" --Tom Waits _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail, free e-mail for the planet. * Visit & explore Cybersmith at http://www.cybersmith.com * Get your web-based e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Thu Oct 15 15:37:46 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 15:37:46 +0100 () Subject: Sinister: How can we make love if we can't make amends? In-Reply-To: <3623AD44.C4CD2D09@bigfoot.com> Message-ID: And I would also like to place my > vote in the non-existant poll that I prefer "North of Scotland has he > seen" to "Has he ever seen Dundee". Sure, the Dundee line gets the > point across better, but the Scotland line is a little more poetic I > think. And I have a doctorate in poetry. And by "have", I mean "don't > have". Incidentally, I thought that the next line went 'would he harrow the Mersey' which was baffling but fantastically poetic. I spent many a minute thinking about the New Testament and the similarities between Liverpool and hell, and why B&S had anything to say about it. Surely this is one of the most bizarre mishearings on record? Cheese content: my two ounces worth. I went to Bettys tea rooms in Harrogate on Sunday and had a 'warm olive roll with mozzarella, tomato and pesto'. It was fucking gorgeous. The mozzarella was white and creamy and just the right chewy consistency, to the extent that a big stringy thing happened and I looked a bit uncouth. (Well, uncouth for Bettys which is kindof genteel.) Something else I wanted to say, probably very boring. In my limited experience people alwayseither love Photo Jenny and dislike/like less You Made Me Forget My Dreams, or vice versa. I'm a 'Dreams' girl myself. I noticed one listee go for Photo Jenny. Does anyone care enough to corroborate my theory? (It's not wicked if you dont...) Love everyone, Archel xxxx> > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jlphilli at xxx.edu Thu Oct 15 15:56:22 1998 From: jlphilli at xxx.edu (jennifer phillips-bacher) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:56:22 -0500 Subject: Sinister: How can we make love if we can't make amends? In-Reply-To: References: <3623AD44.C4CD2D09@bigfoot.com> Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19981015095622.009225e0@students.wisc.edu> hello dearest bits o' lovin, i've decided to crawl out from my cubby hole in the corner to say a few things. firstly, archel said: >Incidentally, I thought that the next line went 'would he harrow the >Mersey' which was baffling but fantastically poetic. I spent many a >minute thinking about the New Testament and the similarities between >Liverpool and hell, and why B&S had anything to say about it. Surely >this is one of the most bizarre mishearings on record? my grandpa knew a woman named mony. i never knew mony's last name (um, this is when grandpa and grandma were divorced and gramps would bring over his "lady friend"...she gave me a strange doll once, she had on a blue lacy dress [the doll, not mony]), but i've decided it was harold. so my mishearing goes something like this: "mony harold has he seen?". i don't know why "seymour stein" makes me think of my elders. and then: > >Something else I wanted to say, probably very boring. In my limited >experience people alwayseither love Photo Jenny and dislike/like less >You Made Me Forget My Dreams, or vice versa. I'm a 'Dreams' girl >myself. I noticed one listee go for Photo Jenny. Does anyone care >enough to corroborate my theory? (It's not wicked if you dont...) well, i can't really say much for this theory, personally, as i adore both songs equally. admittedly, though, i burst into a flaming gulf of giggles everytime stuart sings "get some fish and chi-i-ips la la la la la". i like to think that he forgot the words, just threw in those La Las for the hell of it, and went home with strange butterflies in his stomach, the kind you get when you're really excited to see someone, or more likely the kind that you get when you're sitting in lecture and think about a funny joke someone told you and then you want to laugh really badly, but you know that if you do it will disrupt the professor's lecture on cultural hegemony and power structures and Foucault and.....etc. so anyway.... kiss kiss, the mysterious jennifer +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From qhsmich at xxx.se Thu Oct 15 16:10:33 1998 From: qhsmich at xxx.se (Micheál O'Dwyer) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:10:33 +0200 Subject: Sinister: B&S session on Swedish radio!! Message-ID: <36261067.6DC7AE0F@aom.ericsson.se> Actually, not any more... I was just browsing the P3 website to try to get the details of the B&S session on Monday night (the repeat of the recent French session), and to my horror discovered it had been cancelled until further notice, and replaced by Garbage. It also lists all of the live sessions to be broadcast until mid november, and there's no sign of b&s. Does anybody know what happened, and whether it's ever likely to be broadcast here? cheerio mick +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cchaffin at xxx.org Thu Oct 15 16:08:32 1998 From: cchaffin at xxx.org (Christa Chaffinch) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:08:32 -0400 Subject: Sinister: another odd mis-hearing Message-ID: This is not a mis-hearing (is that a word?) of a Belle and Sebby song, but it still very odd. Sometime in the early 1990's there was this, um, bad band called Temple of the Dog who had one popular song here in the States. The first line of that song was "I don't mind stealing bread from the mouths of decadence" Well, a friend of mine thought they were saying "I don't mind stealing bread from the mouths of Africans" She didn't think that was very nice at all, and I would have to agree. That band was terrible anyway. love, christa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From terri_wise at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 17:20:27 1998 From: terri_wise at xxx.com (Wise, Terri) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:20:27 -0400 Subject: Sinister: mishearings and other ear rings Message-ID: <199810151620.AA09816@interlock.mgh.com> Well, I listened to "Me & the Major" in the car on the hoof to work today and as we all now know, it IS mighty funny if the major is a midget... sorta sounds at one point like he's singing "me and the midget don't see eye to eye on the number of midgets..." ? heh heh My ridiculous ex-boyfriend (from many many moons ago) heard INXS' "Suicide Blonde" as "soup and salad bar"... and then my pal long ago thought that in the John Lennon song "Strange Days" or whatever it's called (can't remember - that's a while ago and it wasn't exactly my fave anyway) he sang "Nobody told me there'd be neglectees" (instead of "days like these"). Whatever neglectees are! I quite enjoy "Photo Jenny." That theme really winds through much of what they do... photos... Garbage... aptly titled. How dare they cancel B&S for that drivel? I'm off to frolic for the weekend starting this afternoon. I expect lots of B&S will fill my ears on the long ride home. And I thoroughly anticipate 300 list mails will greet me upon return! So long, kiddies! Terri +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Thu Oct 15 17:20:35 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:20:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ffarout man In-Reply-To: <19981015131433.10720.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Hi lonely Highway dude who I can obviously see is a MAN wrote : > But really it's nice that the beanpoles get their chance at being the >queens, seeing as fat girls have had the rest of history to be the >paragons of beauty. Not that this excuses eating disorders or anything. Guh? bah? Huh? Beth?! You have to be a man.... fat girls have had the whole of history to be beautiful and now good old anorexics get to be pretty, cool, but eating disorders are bad aren't they....gurr? is this really how people think? I mean, beep?!! I am just making noises!! It's not bloody really nice! Can I back up Leanne by saying it's fecking scary? A social trend starts with women being pressurised by society to be tiny little girls with no sexual characteristics, to be innocent and wee when at the same time they are PIOW! mothers! PIOW! liberated!! PIOW!! housewifes!! PIOW! career women! PIOW! beautiful! PIOW PIOW PIOW BOMBARD to quote my good pal and ex-listee chris :) When was the first case of anorexia recorded? Something like 1894? I am sure it is....I remember reading something about it, the woman in case was just forced food wasn't she.... you can't completely blame anorexia/bulimia on media etc, but I feel it can act as a stong trigger. Shut up girly, ok then I WILL! Archel wrote-ed I spent many a >minute thinking about the New Testament and the similarities between >Liverpool and hell, and why B&S had anything to say about it. How can Liverpool be hell? Do NOT slag a town that has the SUPERLAMBANANA! Yes folks, the SuperlambBanana is a bright yellow sculpture, of a cross between the front end of a lamb, and teh back end of a banana. Is it in Wallace Sqaure now Moonbeam? I saw it in Pierhead, wow....... Isnt the hot chocolate in a can SICK!!! The unsweetend tea is awreet though, but the chocolate! Yuk! it brings a bad name to the lovely choclate! I had some on the bus on the way home, when me and Becca were reading Gregs FHM magazine!! Blimey....there was an article on ARE YOU OVER YOUR EX, which was quite amusing, and lots of women in their undies, and a photostory to say BEING A POOF DOESN'T PAY, which had a guy in a dress being beaten up. And also a pictre of somebody with a severed arm. I'm going to phone DOMINATION! For pleasure of the STRICTER kind...or perhaps BAD GIRLS for BAD BOYS.....ooh mummy....help....its a world of vice and corruption out there! Hehe! Speaking of which, in honour of the cardie wearing thing, I pinned a B&S badge on my cardie the other day :) T!H!E!N! I went to Our Price, and for 4 (FOUR!) free B*witched badges! One of which I pinned on as well, and felt most chuffed. Everyone else laughed at me, and I was taken to one side ot have a talking to, but I told them to all smell off and wank over Skunk Anansie, 'cos of COURSE they are better than B*witched, cos it's fucking political, cha?! I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Candarel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 18:39:05 1998 From: Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com (Anastasia Signoretta) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:39:05 EDT Subject: Sinister: mishearings and other ear rings Message-ID: sorry to contribute to this silly argument, clogging your 'in' boxes with even more useless mail...but! this mishearing is too funny to keep to myself. everyone knows suede's lushiously lushious track off their first record, 'breakdown'? of course you do. anyhow, at the end of the song, while brett is beautifully, torturedly wailing away about volvos in the beautiful tortured fashion that only beautiful tortured brett can do, he sings the line, 'does your love only come...?' or does he? my friend pointed out to me this year, many years after i first heard 'breakdown,' that it sounds like lovely bretty is singing about 'tostito people,' as in, people made out of the popular corn chip here in america, tostitos. great with salsa and even a bit of melted monterey jack (to continue the cheese thread, hey). listen to 'breakdown' and justify this silliness... also, another suede mishearing...my goth friend who responds to the call of 'crackhead' (seriously) was convinced 'stay together' was 'stay dangerous.' not as funny as 'tostito people,' sorry... there are probably loads more mishearings but why bother talking about it? ...as i continue my day, listening to the diva mix of the club hit *'i want muscles,'* being played on the stereo of the club kid i share a cubicle with, quite the diva himself... sorry for the lack of b+s content. a very silly, stasia anastasia signoretta atlantic records international media relations 1290 avenue of the americas 24th floor new york, ny 10104 212.707.2619 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 'but how can i see stars if my feet are on the ground?' ride ------------- Original Text >From "Wise, Terri" , on 10/15/98 12:34 PM: Well, I listened to "Me & the Major" in the car on the hoof to work today and as we all now know, it IS mighty funny if the major is a midget... sorta sounds at one point like he's singing "me and the midget don't see eye to eye on the number of midgets..." ? heh heh My ridiculous ex-boyfriend (from many many moons ago) heard INXS' "Suicide Blonde" as "soup and salad bar"... and then my pal long ago thought that in the John Lennon song "Strange Days" or whatever it's called (can't remember - that's a while ago and it wasn't exactly my fave anyway) he sang "Nobody told me there'd be neglectees" (instead of "days like these"). Whatever neglectees are! I quite enjoy "Photo Jenny." That theme really winds through much of what they do... photos... Garbage... aptly titled. How dare they cancel B&S for that drivel? I'm off to frolic for the weekend starting this afternoon. I expect lots of B&S will fill my ears on the long ride home. And I thoroughly anticipate 300 list mails will greet me upon return! So long, kiddies! Terri +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From L.Kerr at xxx.uk Thu Oct 15 17:42:51 1998 From: L.Kerr at xxx.uk (L. Kerr) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:42:51 +0100 (BST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: I am reporting on the sad lack of Belle and Sebastian in Australia, in spite of Sezah's, the chat stalwart, best efforts. I was privileged to meet Sezah (phoning her Sydney house I panicked and risked asking for "Sarah" - I was correct luckily...), and on the way home to the UK I stopped in Bangkok and met again Ooooooon, that clean living Thai lass. Who told me that Chris said that she had a "gabbling habit" Adding insult to injury, I said she did speak quickly sometimes when excited. Oon was very gracious, and ignored my chatter. But we did make a discovery, which is that no-one can understand Keith and Chris when they talk together - so low and manly and Scottish are their voices. But I digress. I also met Fluke, who is in chat as well occasionally, and is a brilliant driver and very nice bloke. I just struck me, that nice as it is to have Internet friends, it is very nice when they can turn into "real" friends, and you can stay in their house, drive in their cars, and gossip about other sinisterines. And eat their food. Unfortunatly all this did mean that Honey had to have a relapse of bad health without anyone to bring him food etc, but hey, priorities. Awwwwwww. I also have something to add about Lord Anthony. I believe St M did tramp as a child around similar areas to those tramped by my own infant self, and there was a branch of Lord Anthony on Fenwick Rd, Giffnock which was a dreary mix of grey school uniforms and burgundy slacks, as far as I remember. No-one used this shop, and it was obviously a cover for something. Perhaps by examining the lyrics of the new song, we can discver what. Once again, I feel my subconscious has been mined by the songsnake. I am scared. If a song comes out featuring my school dinner menu, I wouldn't be at all surprised. Linda xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mdellima at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 18:17:37 1998 From: mdellima at xxx.com (mark del lima) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:17:37 -0700 Subject: Sinister: This EP is better than that EP! Message-ID: <199810151710.KAA14736@scv2.apple.com> I agree. However, I will say that the Lazy Line ep is much more incomplete and 'searching-for-a-sound', characteristic of new bands. Indeed the title track gives me hives... Mark. > >Mark Kolmar wrote: >> "String Bean Jean" is merely a nice track, but to me nothing on the "Dog >> on Wheels" EP (with the notable exception of "The State I Am In") can >> touch the other records. Of course some time has passed, but there is at >> least an EP's worth of unreleased songs which beat DOW. (Plus, the DOW EP >> came with the sting of discovering they had released an entire album which >> had gone totally unnoticed by me and the several fans at Reckless in >> Chicago where I often shop. As I suggested earlier, after hearing >> _Tigermilk_, "Dog on Wheels" sounded weaker.) >> >> Now "3...6...9...Seconds of Light" is disappointing? We will have to >> agree to disagree, since I think that is the most consistent of the 3 EPs. >> The first two tracks of "Lazy Line Painter Jane" hit higher highs, but >> let's just say that when I picked up my specially-ordered CDS after having >> the 7" a couple of weeks, I didn't feel like I'd been missing out on >> -too- much. >> >> Of course it doesn't get much better than "You Made Me Forget My Dreams". > > This is a really silly thing to discuss. You can't rightly say "this EP >had nothing on this EP, because this song is awful, but this one is >soooooo cool," because another person will have an entirely different >opinion of things. You like certain songs better than I do, it's nothing >that needs argued about. > > /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at oak.cats.ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 > \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) > | | Sandcastle Homepage - > | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ > | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. > | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" > | | - Me! >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tdzF94 at xxx.edu Thu Oct 15 18:38:54 1998 From: tdzF94 at xxx.edu (The Trainspotter) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:38:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <19981015140922.416.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Message-ID: I doesn't mean anything - it's pretending to be bakery of the rich. -teri http://hampshire.edu/~tdzF94/ - Inspired by the writings of the eighteeth century Venetian gambler, eroticist and spy. "The day didn't go too well. Too many chocolates and cigarettes, I kept thinking of you and almost walking into lampposts." Pulp "I may sit in a bar where the cocktails are but I really don't feel like talking I ride around and let the darkness fall 'cause I've got a sense of perfection and nothing else makes sense at all." On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, aaron tieger wrote: > > A little help, please... > > Does anyone know what "Le Pastie de la Bourgoisie" > translates as? It's the kind of question I hate > asking, as (as a former English major I believe in > dictionaries) but after consulting with several > friends who claim fluency, two dictionaries, and the > entire Wednesday afternoon staff of the Boston French > Library, nobody knows. I suppose relative to "where > am I going to get a job" or "is there such a thing as > a bona fide soulmate" this isn't a big issue, but > it's got me wondering. > > Thanks, > > Aaron > > > > === > atieger at rocketmail.com > auger/anvil > > "So goodbye, so long, the road calls me dear > and your tears cannot bind me anymore > And farewell to the girl with the sun in her eyes > I'll kiss you and then I'll be gone" --Tom Waits > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > Sent by RocketMail, free e-mail for the planet. > * Visit & explore Cybersmith at http://www.cybersmith.com > * Get your web-based e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ajax at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 18:42:48 1998 From: ajax at xxx.com (Jake Reichert) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:42:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: mishearings and other ear rings In-Reply-To: from "Anastasia Signoretta" at Oct 15, 98 01:39:05 pm Message-ID: <199810151742.KAA26372@atari.saturn5.com> There's actually a word meaning "misheard lyrics" that I learned about due to a similar thread on the Trash Can Sinatras list. Unfortunately, it eludes me right now. If you know Trash Can Sinatras, you know why it showed up there. Anyways. I think my favorite one is from the end of the Smith's "Frankly, Mr. Shankly". I've always been rather convinced that the last line of the song is "oh give us money", or maybe even "oh give us your money", but on of the two. I have a friend who to this day SWEARS that he's saying "oh Yiddish Mummies." I like this game. -Jake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Thu Oct 15 19:06:01 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:06:01 -0400 Subject: Sinister: mishearings and other ear rings In-Reply-To: <199810151620.AA09816@interlock.mgh.com> Message-ID: At 12:20 -0400 10/15/98, Wise, Terri wrote: (snip) [My ridiculous ex-boyfriend (from many many moons ago) heard INXS' "Suicide [Blonde" as "soup and salad bar"... and then my pal long ago thought that in [the John Lennon song "Strange Days" or whatever it's called (can't remember [- that's a while ago and it wasn't exactly my fave anyway) he sang "Nobody [told me there'd be neglectees" (instead of "days like these"). Whatever [neglectees are! (snip) [Terri that's very Ned Flanders. neglectees, neglectarinos (those of you who have seen the episode of the simpsons where bart and lisa get put in foster care at the flanders household. hidillyho, neglectarinos! -kerry "so is this what it's come to? am i cold or just a little bit warm? give me an easy life and a peaceful death." -the sundays +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From barzy at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 20:10:34 1998 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:10:34 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Le Pastie Message-ID: >I doesn't mean anything - it's pretending to be bakery of the rich. > >-teri > >I was always under the impression that "Bourgoisie" was the "middle" or >"working class" or opposite of the rich. The common-folk...and a Pastie is >just a pastie...(it's something you eat, flaky dough thing filled with >cheese and onion if you're lucky) and given "Le Pastie de la Bourgoisie" >was first spray painted outside of a bakery....I'm guessing it just means >that....The pastie of the working class. Loses all meaning when it's >disected and translated like that though really... beth +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Thu Oct 15 19:17:18 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:17:18 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Le Pastie In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 15:10 -040010/15/98, Madame Cholet wrote: [>I doesn't mean anything - it's pretending to be bakery of the rich. [> [>-teri [> [>I was always under the impression that "Bourgoisie" was the "middle" or [>"working class" or opposite of the rich. The common-folk...and a Pastie is [>just a pastie...(it's something you eat, flaky dough thing filled with [>cheese and onion if you're lucky) and given "Le Pastie de la Bourgoisie" [>was first spray painted outside of a bakery....I'm guessing it just means [>that....The pastie of the working class. Loses all meaning when it's [>disected and translated like that though really... [ [ [ [beth i always considered the bourgeoisie to be the middle class (not the working class). you know -- the people who have relatively comfortable living and lots of blue glass and stuff. (i've always thought blue glass to be super-bourgie). like, the very people the working class is against. for example -- communism is supposed to be for the working class, against the bourgeoisie. -kerry "so is this what it's come to? am i cold or just a little bit warm? give me an easy life and a peaceful death." -the sundays +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mdellima at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 19:18:52 1998 From: mdellima at xxx.com (mark del lima) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:18:52 -0700 Subject: Sinister: mishearings and other ear rings Message-ID: <199810151811.LAA24570@scv2.apple.com> It's called a mondegreen (though I'm not sure of the spelling). One of the most famous examples being the Creedence Clearwater Revival line "There's a bathroom on the right" > >There's actually a word meaning "misheard lyrics" that I learned about due >to a similar thread on the Trash Can Sinatras list. Unfortunately, it >eludes me right now. If you know Trash Can Sinatras, you know why it >showed up there. > >Anyways. I think my favorite one is from the end of the Smith's "Frankly, >Mr. Shankly". I've always been rather convinced that the last line of the >song is "oh give us money", or maybe even "oh give us your money", but on >of the two. I have a friend who to this day SWEARS that he's saying "oh >Yiddish Mummies." > >I like this game. > >-Jake >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Thu Oct 15 19:30:46 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:30:46 -0400 Subject: Sinister: mishearings and other ear rings In-Reply-To: <199810151811.LAA24570@scv2.apple.com> Message-ID: At 14:18 -0400 10/15/98, mark del lima wrote: [It's called a mondegreen (though I'm not sure of the spelling). One of [the most famous examples being the Creedence Clearwater Revival line ["There's a bathroom on the right" [ [ [ sorry to add to the mass of non b&s posting, but here's another one. instead of "the answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind," there's a pretty famous mishearing that goes something like "the ants are my friends, they're blowing in the wind." i'll shut up now -kerry "so is this what it's come to? am i cold or just a little bit warm? give me an easy life and a peaceful death." -the sundays +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mdellima at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 19:25:15 1998 From: mdellima at xxx.com (mark del lima) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:25:15 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Le Pastie Message-ID: <199810151818.LAA21288@scv1.apple.com> Bourgeoisie is 'middle' and the lyrics definitely indicate a peculiar yearning for an escape from the banal restraints/supposed oppression of judy blume, church bazars, and other utterly boring pasttimes of the middle class. very clever, actually. mark. > >>I doesn't mean anything - it's pretending to be bakery of the rich. >> >>-teri >> >>I was always under the impression that "Bourgoisie" was the "middle" or >>"working class" or opposite of the rich. The common-folk...and a Pastie is >>just a pastie...(it's something you eat, flaky dough thing filled with >>cheese and onion if you're lucky) and given "Le Pastie de la Bourgoisie" >>was first spray painted outside of a bakery....I'm guessing it just means >>that....The pastie of the working class. Loses all meaning when it's >>disected and translated like that though really... > > > >beth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From BOYBOUTOWN at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 19:56:26 1998 From: BOYBOUTOWN at xxx.com (BOYBOUTOWN at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:56:26 EDT Subject: Sinister: Show.Detroit.Saturday.Night. Message-ID: <11e1bcd8.3626455a@aol.com> Galicja (Spectator Records) - Mind-blowing sounds. The Sights - Dedicated followers of fashion. The Scmods - Lo-fi noise guitar pop. The Gold Dollar located on 3129 Cass, Detroit.48201. (313) 833-6873. http://golddollar.com. Shall see some three buttons and Piaggios. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TWidmer at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 20:00:22 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:00:22 -0700 Subject: Sinister: mishearings and other ear rings Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF032D05F9@amerwksnt01.xil.com> <> Yep, that looks about right. For the whole story behind where "mondegreen" originates, and for anyone who just can't get enough of these kerr-azy and wild mishearings, check out http://www.kissthisguy.com and while away the hours. It beats working. yours first with useless information, tara +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bijoux13 at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 20:04:06 1998 From: bijoux13 at xxx.com (Felicia Daniel) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:04:06 PDT Subject: Sinister: Le Pastie, etc. Message-ID: <19981015190407.24031.qmail@hotmail.com> azriel wrote: > > >i always considered the bourgeoisie to be the middle class (not the >working class). yup...as opposed to the proletariat... and on the whole misheard lyric front, a little searching found this: >The term "mondegreen" can be attributed to a 1954 Atlantic article by >Sylvia Wright. In the article, she wrote of a folk song she thought >contained the lyrics "They had slain the Earl of Moray/And Lady >Mondegreen." It took her years to discover that she had been wrong; >the lyrics had actually been "They had slain the Earl of >Moray/ And laid him on the green." i can't even remember how many b&s lyrics i originally misunderstood (i think i've blocked it out of my memory due to embarrassment) but my favorite mishearing of all time was committed by my college roommate. she believed that the lyric of r.e.m.'s anti-suicide epic "everybody hurts," rather than "don't blow your hand," (weird poker analogy), went "don't blow your head off." so much for subtlety. reading judy blume, felicia ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From komis at xxx.edu Thu Oct 15 20:01:32 1998 From: komis at xxx.edu (Dmitry Komis) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:01:32 -0500 Subject: Sinister: short, but glowing review! Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19981015140132.007a3b10@students.uiuc.edu> this one is from a local weekly mag at my school: Belle & Sebastian The Boy With the Arab Strap (Matador) Last year B&S released If You're Feeling Sinister, the single best debut record to come out of Scotland ever. The eight piece band transcended indie music, creating something lovely and now returns with The Boy With the Arab Strap, an albumthat continues where Sinister concluded. Many of the songs, such as "Sleep the Clock Around" and the title track, seem to be in the same vein of Sinister's beauty. Darker tunes arise like "Spaceboy Dream" and "Simple Things", but this reveals the band's range as complete instrumental wizards. Watch for this flawless wok to appear as one of '98's best. **** enjoy, dmitry +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ajax at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 20:24:09 1998 From: ajax at xxx.com (Jake Reichert) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: mishearings and other ear rings In-Reply-To: from "azriel" at Oct 15, 98 02:30:46 pm Message-ID: <199810151924.MAA00336@atari.saturn5.com> > > At 14:18 -0400 10/15/98, mark del lima wrote: > [It's called a mondegreen (though I'm not sure of the spelling). One of > [the most famous examples being the Creedence Clearwater Revival line > ["There's a bathroom on the right" Oh thank god I'm not the only one. That song made my childhood a living hell, because our bathroom was conspicuously on the left. It was like that damn Cal Worthington "Pussy Cow" commercial (if you're not from LA, just let that one go). -mrjake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ajax at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 21:12:29 1998 From: ajax at xxx.com (Jake Reichert) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:12:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: mishearings and other ear rings In-Reply-To: from "Madame Cholet" at Oct 15, 98 01:06:15 pm Message-ID: <199810152012.NAA02282@atari.saturn5.com> > stairs"..I still don't know what he really says. I only found out last year > that in that one song he *doesn't* say "reved up like a douche and in the > middle of the night..." but "reved up like a douce, another runner in the > night.." Ah, see there you're wrong, because everyone except the guy who wrote the song KNOWS that it's "reved up like a douche". He's just operating under some very misguided symantec principles. Poor, poor man. -mrjake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 0291942a01 at xxx.es Thu Oct 15 22:34:24 1998 From: 0291942a01 at xxx.es (Jordi Trenzano Vilar) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 22:34:24 +-100 Subject: Sinister: Fall question Message-ID: <01BDF893.239CC700@Abonado-195-53-42-165.cat.es> I have recently bought the Fall?s compilation "The A sides" (some songs from 1984 until 1988) and I would like to know if they have more records besides the ones of that period. If anyone else has this compilation or any record where the song "L.A." appears, I don?t know if you?d agree that this tune has more power than the 90% (or 99) of actual techno ones. And it is from 85 ! Buy the cheese from Andorra, a very small country (like Luxembourg or Liechestein) at the south of France/north of Cataloniam where you shall find very good cheeses. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 22:32:17 1998 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:32:17 EDT Subject: Sinister: mis-hearings Message-ID: <97ec6cb.362669e1@aol.com> Suede "Sleeping Pills" The lyrical line is "You're A Water Sign, I'm An Air Sign" I always thought Brett Anderson was singing "You're A Water Sign, I'm An Asshole" Pete +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Gareth at xxx.uk Thu Oct 15 22:44:20 1998 From: Gareth at xxx.uk (Gareth Probert) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 22:44:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: A common mistake to make... Message-ID: <36266CB4.9A64E309@probert-edi.compulink.co.uk> Just thought that I would add a hilarious mix-up to the tales of mis-hearings... In 'Fox in the Snow', I thought that he sang "Thoughts in the snow" (this was because I first heard it at a friends house, and was oblivious to the name). Well, I am going to leave you and enjoy the rest of my coffee Cheerio Gareth Probert +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From IsItRite at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 22:53:00 1998 From: IsItRite at xxx.com (IsItRite at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:53:00 EDT Subject: Sinister: wooha.ha. Message-ID: Hi :) I've only been lurking for a few days and already I'm going insane with the amount of emails I'm getting. All of you are charming yes ;) but it fills up the mailbox. So...what I'm asking is how to I get you all bundled up into digest form? Thanks, Jenny +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From monroej at xxx.com Fri Oct 16 01:15:57 1998 From: monroej at xxx.com (John F. Monroe) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:15:57 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Re: Fall question Message-ID: <000b01bdf89a$2807e520$8c55cfa9@monroej.execpc> Jordi Trenzano Vilar writes: I have recently bought the Fall?s compilation "The A sides" (some songs from 1984 until 1988) and I would like to know if they have more records besides the ones of that period. If anyone else has this compilation or any record where the song "L.A." appears, I don?t know if you?d agree that this tune has more power than the 90% (or 99) of actual techno ones. And it is from 85 ! L.A. is a good ol' classic Fall tune, repetition, repetition, repetition, as they sang on a much earlier tune. and it has the part with brix smith intoning "this is my happening / and its freaking me out". film buffs might recognize that from one of those 'valley of the dolls' freaky flicks ( beyond? beneath? escape from? battle for? i cannot recall now... ) if you want Fall 'techno', go for "The Infotainment Scan", or the latest studio one, 'Levitate', if you want the stuff from approximately around when they did L.A., you can't go wrong with "This Nations Saving Grace", " I Am Kurious, Oranj", "Bend Sinister" or "B-Sides" ( that would be a good place to go after A-Sides, it is a double album, 2 cds, and actually a lot better than the A-sides collection ). +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Thu Oct 15 23:21:22 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:21:22 -0400 Subject: Sinister: misheard lyrics Message-ID: so you guys know the song "rock me like a hurricane," right? well, i forgot who it was by. *but* my friend ethan heard it for the first time about a year ago and thought it was "raunchy like a hurricane." this same kid heard "root down" by the beastie boys and thought it was "roof down," a song about a convertible: "i put my foot down, i put the roof down." ha! -kerry "so is this what it's come to? am i cold or just a little bit warm? give me an easy life and a peaceful death." -the sundays +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chigger88 at xxx.com Thu Oct 15 23:21:04 1998 From: chigger88 at xxx.com (Burt Reynolds) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 15:21:04 PDT Subject: Sinister: Mondegreen Message-ID: <19981015222104.14679.qmail@hotmail.com> "Rock and Roll hootchie-coo, come on down and bite my shoe (bite my shoe)" I actually don't know the REAL lyrics to that one... "I'm a pool hall ace for every breath you take" -the Police (natch) My cousin makes fun of me ruthlessly to this very day. Rachael ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Someone at xxx.com Fri Oct 16 01:19:11 1998 From: Someone at xxx.com (Someone) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 01:19:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: B&S get drunk or something Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981016011911.006d7624@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net> I also went to the Munich gig and I agree with Geoffrey and Pete; it was quite disappointing. The venue itself was terrible. The stage was so low and the Germans are so tall that you'd be glad if you could see more than one of the many band members. Besides, there were these two big pillars right in front of each side of the stage which blocked the view even more. But it was mainly the band's fault. The feeling you got during most of the songs was that the band just didn't want to be there but had to. Stuart M (whose hair clearly indicated he had just waken up) said they had just arrived by bus and apologised for not seeing the opening act, so maybe they were tired, I don't know. But I don't think they were drunk from the Oktoberfest. From their tour schedule I would guess they only had a few cold ones on the following day (Oct 4th). I took 3 friends along (2 of them knew B&S and 1 had never heard them before) and they all liked the Lucksmiths (the opening band) much better. Speaking of which, are there any Aussies from the list who could reccomend other Lucksmiths albums other than "A Good Kind of Nervous"? Two of my friends bought this CD (which sold out really fast) and it's really really good, a bit like a sweeter and happier early Violent Femmes. It was funny to see them onstage, the singer had this constant smile throughout all the songs, which made him look like someone you'd trust enough to leave your cat with while you went on holidays (if you love your cat, that is). I searched their website and found this email from a fan thanking the band for cleaning up his house after they slept over there after one gig. :-D Anyway, back to B&S's performance in Munich, here's the set list: i know where the summer goes the state i am in she�s losing it paper boat the rollercoaster ride lazy line painter jane chickfactor ease your feet simple things a century of elvis photo jenny loneliness of a middle distance runner seeing other people dirty dream number two I had never heard "where the summer goes" and liked it quite a lot. The same with "paper boat", which was sung by Stuart David. "The word out on the street is" StuD and Karn are buying a new house and need some money, so he wrote this mellow cheesy pop tune for the next ep (when is it coming out, by the way?). I found that lovely, and hope some more members need money as well. Love y'all, Andre. ************************************************************************ happy for a day - some belle and sebastian thoughts contact us at: =========================== "Men are so crazy, they want the essence, the woman is the essence, there it is right in their hands but they rush off erecting big abstract constructions." - Mardou Fox +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Fri Oct 16 00:23:30 1998 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 16:23:30 PDT Subject: Sinister: hey sister go sister soul sister yeahh Message-ID: <19981015232331.4730.qmail@hotmail.com> dear little ones, yay,i'm running around and dancing in my newly arrived belle and sebastian tshirt,thankyou 'Jeepster Person' David...who is it that packs those things? I must compliment you!! If I could pack all my clothes like that,I would only need half the space in my drawers..i'm really impressed...wow.. and the badges are so cute and fun-size,they look like candy,i just want to nibble on them (but that wouldn't taste good) the 'SEXY POWAH!!' on this shirt better work on at least on someone..record boy or bagpiper boy (Cathy you know what I'm talking about,it's Stuart Murdoch! And he's playing the bagpipes for money....) or yogen fruz man. >Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 06:14:30 PDT >From: "Corpora Arenacea" >Subject: Sinister: You Made Me Forget My Thighs >I really don't think the first thing that goes through a man's head when >he sees a girl, consciously or unconsciously, is "God she could bear my >offspring quite well couldn't she?" Though my sociobiology course >contradicts that. Perhaps men now want a girl who =won't= bear any >children. oh you make me laugh!! that statement is just so funny if i think about some of the guys i know,some i can picture thinking that,others,they are like such weenie ween ween boys,it's funny.. ahhhhh....i guess it all depends yes? some guys are like 'honey,let's have 10 children!' but most nowdays are so cold,they say 'children? they just get in the way' Matthew Hintz is the most beautiful sinister person! must you leave? sniff..stay and have some cookies...no one offers you a bible? maybe you are in the wrong place..here,everytime walking they always give out many things,they always call me their little sister cheese cheese cheese,this is insanity! yet..why is it with grilled cheese sandwiches,that icky stuff in saran wrap always tastes better? hmmmmm sllllurp, genevieve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alerche at xxx.net Fri Oct 16 01:54:23 1998 From: alerche at xxx.net (Andre Vieira) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 01:54:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: B&S get drunk or something Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981016015423.0069e610@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net> I was talking about the Munich gig on my last e-mail but forgot to say that one of my friends who was also there said she was walking home after the gig and was surprised to see Isobel walking alone late at night in this tiny street, under a light rain, real sweet and pretty as she always is. That made me think of another friend I dragged along to the gig who told me: "When you look at the band's pictures [from the TBWTAS album], it seems like they are faking these fey, dreamy faces. But when I saw them live, it's strange, that's really how they are." Oh, sorry everyone for the "Someone at somewhere.com" address in my last e-mail. I sent a joke message to a friend and forgot to change the e-mail settings. Stupid, stupid... Cheers, Andre. ******************************************************* happy for a day - some belle and sebastian thoughts contact us at: +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Fri Oct 16 01:28:12 1998 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:28:12 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: in states of distress...! In-Reply-To: <19981014124932.27303.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, carly marcoux wrote: > You knoooowwww... has anyone seen or heard from miss daplyn??? does > anyone remember elizabeth?? it seems that she's sort of just fallen off > the face of the earth... She has moved to a new University address. She will also be pleasantly surprised when she finds a shiny and crisp copy of Tigermilk in her mailbox. I do not have her new email, or even know if she has one yet. I believe she announced her move on the list -- so, Liz, please forgive me if you didn't and didn't intend to. --Mark __ October 19th: SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Fri Oct 16 02:17:45 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 02:17:45 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Who Killed The JAM'S ?. Message-ID: <000001bdf8a2$c7decde0$a1567ec2@whelan> Sebastian wrote.... > pavement ist rad...aaaaaah yeah Personally I find it very overated, now kerbing, thats the bunny. 87) then Sarah, Queen of Fluffiness got her crayons out a drew us all a picture.... > Archel wrote-ed > > >I spent many a > >minute thinking about the New Testament and the similarities between > >Liverpool and hell, and why B&S had anything to say about it. > > How can Liverpool be hell? Do NOT slag a town that has the > SUPERLAMBANANA! Yes folks, the SuperlambBanana is a bright yellow > sculpture, of a cross between the front end of a lamb, and teh back end > of a banana. Is it in Wallace Sqaure now Moonbeam? I saw it in Pierhead, > wow....... First off, can I say that Liverpool is far from hell, it's a fantastic place slightly ruined image wise in the 80's by Bread ?. Carla Layne's got a lot to answer for. As has whoever wrote Liverpool 1. Ahhh, the Superlambanana. Yep it was moved from Pierhead to Williamson Square, which is where it was last time I saw it. It's on a tour of the city though, so god knows where it is now. I do know that some sods been chucking things at it though, cos theres bits of yellow paint missing from it. > Speaking of which, in honour of the cardie wearing thing, I pinned a B&S > badge on my cardie the other day :) T!H!E!N! I went to Our Price, and > for 4 (FOUR!) free B*witched badges! One of which I pinned on as well, > and felt most chuffed. Everyone else laughed at me, and I was taken to > one side ot have a talking to, but I told them to all smell off and wank > over Skunk Anansie, 'cos of COURSE they are better than B*witched, cos > it's fucking political, cha?! OK, now i'm the man who once blagged 5 albums in a night from the cream of the welsh underground, but even I thought walking up to the woman in Our Price saying, and I quote, "I don't want to buy the album, I just want the free badges", was a bit cheeky you young scamp you. 87) Now come on, did I laugh at you ?. I'm buggering off now, see ya Gary +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From heinitz at xxx.net Fri Oct 16 03:18:16 1998 From: heinitz at xxx.net (Heinitz) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 98 02:18:16 GMT Subject: Sinister: not about my cat this time Message-ID: <981016021816.n0001648.heinitz@mail.clara.net> Fluffy Sarah shouted: >How can Liverpool be hell? Do NOT slag a town that has the >SUPERLAMBANANA! Yes folks, the SuperlambBanana is a bright yellow >sculpture, of a cross between the front end of a lamb, and teh back end >of a banana. Is it in Wallace Sqaure now Moonbeam? I saw it in Pierhead, >wow....... i saw it in the paper, once, and i wanted to go and see it properly... i've only seen one picture of it, but it looks ACE. My dad used to work at the yorkshire sculpture park, and when i was little we went there a lot... me and my brothers used to climb on some of the sculptures - not what they were meant for, but it was lots of fun. i still think you can't appreciate a sculpture properly until you have found out whether it makes a good slide. yesterday i saw a teddy pendergrass album in the great evil HMV sale. didn't buy it though. i came out with the trembling blue stars' lips that taste of tears, a t-shirt and a marvin gaye live album. someone (i can't remember who) wittered: > But really it's nice that the beanpoles get their chance at being the >queens, seeing as fat girls have had the rest of history to be the >paragons of beauty. and i suppose now white people should be slaves? and heterosexuals punished for their sexuality? would that be good to see? what WOULD be great is the media to realise that people of ALL shapes and sizes can be beautiful, instead of wanting everybody to look the same. THEN perhaps more people would be satisfied with the way they are instead of killing themselves to look like something they're not genetically programmed to be. hey, i'm getting the hang of this massage thing... no no, i meant mEssage.... love abi, who's short (gasp!) and fat (the horror!) and pretty (shock!) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ChromK at xxx.com Fri Oct 16 02:38:34 1998 From: ChromK at xxx.com (ChromK at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 21:38:34 EDT Subject: Sinister: Cheesey Trivia Message-ID: <1b325de9.3626a39a@aol.com> Hello people, To my knowledge the FAQ bit isn't quite complete. Mick Cooke, the gorgeous B&S trumpet bloke, used to play guitar in 'Tetsuo', a thrash-metal combo who were kicking round Glasgow in the early 'nineties. Cam Jeffery (vocals) is worth a mention as he was very good too. Apparently he taught Catriona Mitchell from the Pastels how to play the guitar. There you go, an additional tenuous link between B&S and the great Glasgow instituation that is the Pastels. I'd be interested in information on their collaborative single too. Also.... On a cheesy theme.... Mick played in a band called 'Perambulator' before Hardbody. One of there songs was called 'I have your nose' and featured the lines: love me please like I love my CHEESE but don't you drill holes in my knees And I know 'cos I was there. Now who said that?? Regards Chrom x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ian.thompson at xxx.uk Fri Oct 16 10:24:29 1998 From: ian.thompson at xxx.uk (Ian D. Thompson) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:24:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Lord Anthony + FAQ Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981016102429.0069b524@pop-hub.strath.ac.uk> dear all, I saw Stuart M playing Lord Anthony in the old 13th Note (Glasgow) with Mick Cooke before B&S were formed (cant remember the exact year or anything). The Lord Anthony bit was a reference to the label that used to appear on the jackets made by the company of the same name, the guy in the song has one of these jackets. If I remember rightly these jackets were around at the same time as the Parka jacket, but were not as cool, and the wearers of Lord Anthonys were therefore open to ridicule. I've heard from a reliable source that it will be released as a single soon.... Adding to the FAQ, Mick Cooke and his bro' and a few others (cant remember names) were in a band called "Tropical Fishes" based in Dundee pre-Perambulator. Ian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grabutcho at xxx.com Fri Oct 16 11:04:12 1998 From: grabutcho at xxx.com (Julien Boeldieu) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 03:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: bourgeoisie, working-class, botched capitalism and children of socialism Message-ID: <19981016100412.24138.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com> Hello everyone :) "Bourgeoisie" is the word used by Marx and Engels to speak about the dominant class in the capitalist mode of production. I guess "upper class would be a more appropriate word, but I've read somewhere that "middle-class" was a synonym to "bourgeoisie"... So I'm quite confused. According to them, the bourgeois owns the whole means of production under the laws of private property. They draw their income from the capital they own and they put in the capitalist production. The proletariat is the class of those who owns nothing but their labour-power and who are compelled to sell it to the bourgeois to earn money and to live. According to Marx and Engels, this division leads to the exploitation of the proletariat. The latest sells its labour-power to its exchange-value (under the form of a wage), but it produces more than this value. The difference between this use-value of labour-power and its exchange-value is called surplus-value. This surplus-value, although it was produced by workers, is extorted by the bourgeois under the form of a profit. The domination of the bourgeoisie is economic, but also political. Even if the proletariat has won democratic rights by fighting, the state and the laws, the army and the police, are oppressive instruments used by the dominant class, and the parlementary democracy is a big joke that hides the truth the economic exploitation. To Marx and Engels, the historic role of the proletariat is to get rid of this system and to build socialism, ie a society without any classes and any kinds of discrimination and oppression, a society without any kind of division of labour, a society without state and government that would be ruled by a direct democracy -- a society such as the one John Lennon sings about in "Imagine" : a brother/sistehood of men/women that would share the world together in love, peace and harmony (which are the common goal, whatever Morrissey can say). The rise of a middle-class, the economic changes during the 20th century and the fall of stalinism haven't changed many things, finally. The sociologic composition of the working-class has changed a lot, but I think that social classes and exploitation still remain and will remain as long as the capitalist mode of production exist. This system creates unemployment, poverty, huge unequalities, competition, wars and needs to create and to increase all these things to survive. But by doing this, odds are that it will destroy the whole mankind. The present world crisis shows us that. The idea of socialism has been betrayed by Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Pol Pot and many more who have turned it into uglies dictatorships, but I don't think it is an utopy. Capitalism isn't a "natural" system. It's the result of an history that can be changed. Everything is to be imagined ! Byebye, Julien. Christa, I miss you. == "Je ne remets jamais � demain ce que je peux faire le surlendemain" ** Alphonse Allais ** _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From larry at xxx.com Fri Oct 16 12:05:58 1998 From: larry at xxx.com (larry at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 07:05:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: You Made Me Forget My Thighs Message-ID: <199810161105.HAA20767@smtp.interlog.com> Corporatio Arachnoida wrote: >And seriously, at the first party I threw at my house I was talking >about how the historical scale is now reversed, and those with money can >afford to be thin while the poorer have to settle for fast food and tv >dinners and wind up being horridly overweight, when my friend Jerry from >400 miles away strode in, plopped down on the couch, and yelled (in >front of all my paraprofessional, uh, colleagues) "BITCH, BRING ME A >CHICKEN POT PIE!" It was funny how every single one of them got up and >said they really had to go all within a minute of each other. I mean, >there was a queue to leave. I had to return a keg 95 percent full. Well, that's the problem with paraprofessional colleagues - they tend not to have seen The Breakfast Club, ever. "Eh, smoke up, Johnny!" -L- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Fri Oct 16 11:34:59 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:34:59 +0100 Subject: Sinister: wooha.ha. References: Message-ID: <36272153.3EBC264F@jeepster.co.uk> IsItRite at aol.com wrote: > > Hi :) > > I've only been lurking for a few days and already I'm going insane with the > amount of emails I'm getting. All of you are charming yes ;) but it fills up > the mailbox. So...what I'm asking is how to I get you all bundled up into > digest form? > > Thanks, > Jenny this can be the bane of everyone from time to time, and the digests are so lovely. so even though the information is on the sinister site i'll just re-cap for everyone how to become part of the exclusive digest list. firstly you will need to make a new e-mail message, address it to: majordomo at majordomo.net leave the subject blank (actually it doesn't matter - the subject is ignored whatever you put in it). then put the following lines in the body of the message (the main text area): unsubscribe sinister subscribe sinister-digest you should receive a message letting you know this has happened within a matter of minutes. note that if you're not at your usual computer or if your mail goes through a different server (people who work at big companies, or those studying this probably means you!), you will have to tell paul's computer which e-mail you're at, so that way it knows which one to subscribe/unsubscribe, if so, you'll have to type this (replacing with your full e-mail address): unsubscribe sinister subscribe sinister-digest that's it :) now instead of receiving 60 e-mails a day, you'll get just the one large one every now and then (currently about one or two a day) which is easier on your mail box and makes it all seem so copeable. note that being on the digest in no ways reduces the amount of mail, it just bundles it all together in one nice package :) david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sang_froid at xxx.com Fri Oct 16 12:26:57 1998 From: sang_froid at xxx.com (A Nonnymouse) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:26:57 PDT Subject: Sinister: bourgeoisie, working-class, botched capitalism Message-ID: <19981016112657.23527.qmail@hotmail.com> >"Bourgeoisie" is the word used by Marx and Engels to speak about the >dominant class in the capitalist mode of production. I guess "upper >class would be a more appropriate word, but I've read Fuck right off with this shit. Since when was this list a political lecture? Through in a two line opinion by all means, but don't start spouting pages of condescending shite. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Fri Oct 16 13:07:35 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:07:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Oops, forgot that one Message-ID: <01BDF905.F224C290.keith@qss.co.uk> Well, forgot that one about Le Pastie de la Boulangerie, we've had that discussion before plenty a time too, so I've stuck that one in the FAQ too, I guess I'm posting this loads right at the moment. Never mind, this one is a special "Peter Miller remix version" cause he was pissed off not to be amongst the credited people at the end. Megan, the Kid Loco album is ace, when I first bought it I thought it was a bag of shite, just kind of like Air, but not as good, and less tunes, however, since then I've really got into it and I can't figure out why I didn't like it in the first place. It's got some completely great tracks on it, especially the aforementioned track with the Captain Beefheart sample on it, it also has some sexy groaning noises too, like in French Kiss, and Je t'aime moi non plus. I got some of the singles too, the Love me sweet one featuring a couple of remixes, unfortunately they're a bit cack, and I wouldn't recommend it much - apart from the picture on the sleeve, which is nice. I am at this very moment listening to Mr. Teddy "Teddy" Pendergrass, and his Love TKO, although I'm afraid I know very little about the great Teddy himself, so I'm a bit stuck there. Hey I'm gonna go down the shops after work though to try and attain a copy of "Young and Foolish". Duke - I hope you realise that me and Peter are bloody well pissed off that we don't get a mention in it - bear that in mind for your next book - or maybe you could quickly release an updated version, which includes us. A friend of mine pointed out the other night that there's a serious similarity between the Bellenders' Mary Jo, and David Essex's "A Winters Tale", sing it along, it's quite noticable. OK then, here comes that pesky FAQ again... Cheers, Keith. Belle and Sebastian : Frequently asked Questions 1. What is Tigermilk, where can I get a copy? Tigermilk is the bands first album and was released around about May 1996. It was released as part of a Stow College course whereby Alan Rankine (of the Associates) fronts up the cash to record a single every year, although with Belle and Sebastian they decided that there was enough material for an album, hence Tigermilk. There were only 1000 copies pressed and so the record is worth a lot of money now. The band have always mantained that Tigermilk will be re-released at some point, and this will definitely be the case, currently likely that about March 1999, although this may change. 2. Who is the guest singer on Lazy Line Painter Jane? The female singer on Lazy Line Painter Jane is Monica Queen, formerly of countryish Glasgow band Thrum. Thrum released a record a few years ago, about 1994 I think. Last I heard she was recording with her own band which is called "Monica", or at least that's what it was called in February 1997. Here's a list of releases. "Purify" 7", "Thrum" / "Here I am" / "So glad" 12"/CDs and the "Rifferama" LP/CD 3. What is "Elvis" in A Century of Elvis. No-one knows bar the author really, but it's probably a cat, perhaps a tortoise, maybe actually Elvis, maybe it's Tortelvis from Dread Zeppelin who knows, and to be quite honest, who cares. 4. Who is in the band... Stuart Murdoch - singing guitar, trumpet apparently now, for the twin lead trumpet effect. Isobel Campbell - singing, cello, various Sarah Martin - violin, weird things Stevie Jackson - Guitar, piano, singing. Stuart David - Bass Mick Cooke - Trumpet, various Chris Geddes - keyboards Richard Colburn - Drums Neil Robertson has been known to play bass on Stuart David's "Spaceboy Dream", which brings me on to... 5. What other bands have members of Belle and Sebastian involved in? There's quite a number of things here. I'm sure it's not complete either, it's just what I can remember off hand. Chris Geddes : currently V-Twin and Golden Rodeo (think that's what they're called). Has played on Arab Strap records. V-Twin have released two singles (to my knowledge), Gifted, and a 12", In the land of the Pharoes. Mick Cooke : Used to play with Hardbody, who released two singles on Epic (On your own, Hazel's hob). Now plays with the Karelia and the Amphetameanies. Has also played on releases by Mojave 3, Ex-Cathedra. Probably others too. Stuart Murdoch : Played on releases by Polarbear and Arab Strap. Previously : (Early) Digger$, Lisa Helps The Blind, Rhode Island. Richard Colburn : Has played with Polarbear/Snowpatrol Isobel Campbell : Has played on Arab Strap records, also played on the Snowpatrol record. Stuart David : Stuart David has a side project called "Looper". There has been one single released on Sub-pop singles club called "Impossible things" and there is an album planned. 6. What records have been released? Tigermilk (LP) May 1996 If you're feeling sinister (LP) November 1996 Dog on Wheels (EP) April 1997 Lazy Line Painter Jane (EP) June 1997 3,6,9 Seconds of Light (EP) October 1997 The Boy with the Arab Strap (LP) September 1998 7. What's that song at the end of the 3,6,9 seconds of light EP called. It's called "Songs for Children". 8. What about all these unreleased songs that people keep belting on about in order to make themselves look smart? Pocketbook Angel London has let me down Hurley's having dreams These are little demos of old songs that will as far as we know, never ever be released as Belle and Sebastian. Loneliness of the middle distance runner Modern Rock song Rhoda People around the place have tapes of various different versions of these, they've been kicking around for a while and they may well be released reasonably soon, there are numerous different versions of the Loneliness of the middle distance runner. I Know where the summer goes The Gate These two will probably be a part of the next single Here's another piece by Peter Miller : One of the rarest Belle and Sebastian related recordings is a home produced demo of "To Sir With Love", the Lulu song from the film of the same name. The recording features the plaintive voice of Stuart Murdoch alone with his Casiotone keyboard, and is rumoured to be heartbreakingly beautiful. From the same recording session comes one of Murdoch's earliest attempts at songwriting, but no one can remember what it's called. It mentions "She Made Me Realise" by My Bloody Valentine. Efforts to locate these recordings have proved unsuccesful so far. 9. What sessions have they done on the radio? The first session was around about September 1996 here Mark Lamarr sat in for Mark and Lard at night... They played Judy and the dream of horses Like Dylan in the movies The State that I am in The stars of track and field The second was about February 1997 on Mark + Lard's program again and they played : I could be dreaming Seeing other people (slow version) We rule the school Modern Rock song The third was on Steve Lamacq's evening session and they played : Lazy Line Painter Jane Sleep the clock around Slow Graffiti Seymour Stein They did one of Stevie Jackson's tracks "Wrong Love" one night when the evening session was live from Glasgow. Apparently this is now called "Wrong Girl", will it be called "Wrong Sheep" at some point in the future? The fourth less well known session was on Peter Easton's Radio Scotland music program where he played : The Loneliness of the middle distance runner Slow Graffiti Modern Rock song. 10. Who is Tigermilk dedicated to? Tigermilk is dedicated to Lawrence Bradby, who's a friend of Stuart's. I dunno how frequently asked this question is, but it certainly was asked frequently recently as regards a competition on French radio. 11. Are Belle and Sebastian twee? No, they rock. 12. Dog on Wheels, what's the story there then? Well it's not really Belle and Sebastian on that EP, as you'll see if you have a look at who played on it. Here's the story: All the songs on the EP were recorded some time, either at the end of '95, or start of '96, at Beat Box studios, which is where Stuarts Murdoch and David were doing a doley sound engineering course at the time. Pretty much everyone who plays on it were on the course as well, apart from Mick. One of the guys who ran the studio was Alan Rankine, of Stow College, and Electric Honey Records, which is where he came in. So hopefully that'll put an end to the word of loads of hoary old session musicians playing on it, just kids who were on the course. Makes the recording of that EP sounds less like an episode of Rock School doesn't it. 13. Le Pastie de la Bourgeousie - what does it translate as? Apparently, what it's supposed to translate as is "The Apathy of the Upper Class", however it doesn't, so we're told by reliable French people... Doh! And yes it was sprayed on the wall at Charing Cross for a while, it's in the video for Dog on Wheels, there was another graffiti of the same thing done by a bloke from the Yummyfur next to Greggs the Bakers on Byres road. 14. Who's on the covers of the records? Tigermilk : Joanne Kenney If you're feeling sinister : Ciara MacLaverty Dog on Wheels : Joanne Kenney Lazy Line Painter Jane : I dunno 3,6,9 Seconds of Light : Victoria Morton The Boy with the Arab Strap : Chris Geddes Many thanks to Andreas Hering, Mick Cooke, Chris Leonard, Philippe Garnier and Peter Miller for help with this. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Fri Oct 16 13:09:54 1998 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:09:54 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: misheard lyrics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: When I went on holiday in Newquay last year they were playing Professional Widow in the clubs all the time. My mate Bert somehow got it into his head that the lyrics were "I've got a big dick" instead of "It's got to be big" or whatever it really is. He used to walk round the campsite singing this and once We went on holiday to Newquay last year and they were playing Professional Widow in all the clubs. My mate got it into his head that the lyrics were "I've got a big dick" instead of "we gotta be big" or whatever it is. He would walk around the campsite singing this to himself, and once I walked into the main toilet block and could hear, coming from one of the cubicles, the sweet dulcit tones of Bert singing "I've got a big dick". The toilets were cleared in seconds. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nmg20 at xxx.uk Fri Oct 16 13:38:54 1998 From: nmg20 at xxx.uk (Nick Grundy) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:38:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: bourgeoisie In-Reply-To: <19981016112657.23527.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19981016133854.007c2bf0@pop.hermes.cam.ac.uk> At 04:26 16/10/98 PDT, A Nonnymouse wrote: > >Fuck right off with this shit. >Since when was this list a political lecture? Yeah. I mean, Belle and Sebastian never mention social or political issues in *any* of their songs. I mean, they were probably just using the word "bourgeoisie" because they read it on the back of a cereal packet. It doesn't matter what it means as long as it sounds nice. Sort of like Oasis. Hugs 'n' kisses, Nick. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From karlek0 at xxx.com Fri Oct 16 14:00:48 1998 From: karlek0 at xxx.com (Matt Hayes) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 06:00:48 PDT Subject: Sinister: misery, hope and middle names. Message-ID: <19981016130050.21609.qmail@hotmail.com> dear all. last night was dead nice: i stayed in because i was skint and went to bed early. i put on tigermilk and started reading little ink movies which is just lovely. then i decided to read belle letters which is also lovely. i was really enjoying it until i remembered that my girlfriend is a thousand miles away so i got dead miserable..... however, she will be in sweden next monday evening which just happens to be the day that belle and sebastian's stockholm gig is broadcast on swedish radio. so things aren't so bad. anyway, i was just wondering if anybody knows and of the band members middle names. i really hope stuart murdoch's begins with a p because then his initials will be spm. the same as, well, someone else with those initials. anyway, my week is over. sorry for the crap at the beginning. love, matthew ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sderrick at xxx.uk Fri Oct 16 15:09:35 1998 From: sderrick at xxx.uk (SHIRLEY DERRICK) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:09:35 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Tiger milk LP In-Reply-To: <199810161256.NAA14593@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <498A454633D@glg.ed.ac.uk> hello I have a friend who is selling his copy of Belle & Sebastian "Tigermilk" original LP, excellent condition. He knows that it's rare but not it's exact value so it will go to the highest bidder provided that the offer received is acceptable. My friend doesn't have e-mail access so I'm advertising for him, all offers should be addressed to me and I'll pass them onto him. I'm using my e-mail at work and I don't work at weekends so any replies will be answered on Monday. Thanks Shirley +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NeilD at xxx.uk Fri Oct 16 14:34:42 1998 From: NeilD at xxx.uk (Neil Dewhurst) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:34:42 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <704AE307AB53D2119EE300805F7DF755E2F7@NCMSERVER> Julien wrote... a society such as the one John Lennon sings about in "Imagine" : a brother/sistehood of men/women that would share the world together in love, peace and harmony (which are the common goal, whatever Morrissey can say). ...although I think Locke (or it may be Hobbes) would disagree. According to Locke, man's natural state is war and conflict. His socio-political model is roughly, give or take a few interpretations and a bit of memory loss, as follows. Before a society is formed, you have a disparate collection of people or peoples all or some of whom are in ownership of distinct territories. The extent of the territory is not important - it could be a small circle carved round where you sit, but basically what is important is that they feel that it is theirs. When another person arrives on the horizon, they are a potential threat to your territory. You don't welcome them with open arms because they may cross you, perhaps by killing you, and thus claim ownership of your territory. By being nice, you have been deprived of your territory, and possibly killed. Your victor now owns more land etc, etc. This expands into a political model, where people in a society appreciate that they need rules to stop this kind of barbarity, so they club together and elect in some way an individual to rule them. Given the potentially evil nature of their leader they give him / her limited powers within which they can rule, so if their leader oversteps they get to oust them. I think in the Hobbes model everyone is so loving and kind and naïve that they just elect someone and decide that they're so trustworthy they give them unlimited power, probably because they weren't around when Lord Acton told the world that "power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts absolutely." Apologies to esteemed political students and academics on the list if I've lied, pretended I know things I don't, or just get everything the wrong way round. B&S content?...erm, if you play B&S music to people they won't invade your territory? Love neil +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Fri Oct 16 10:25:28 1998 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:25:28 +0200 Subject: Sinister: she's loosing it Message-ID: <36271108.753CE4B@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Good morning sinister, i recieved a copy of Tigermilk ( thanks Cal) and i want to linger over a beautiful song conteined in this first work. "she's loosing it" give me a lot of emotion. The vowell system of Stuard is unusual : "...........but in the first moment of a waking up.........." , every time i listen this verse i have a goose-flesh , expecially when Stuard sing "....of a waking up...". But what about " we rule the school" ? I have no more word : i bow to their greatness. Thank you for listen. Marco#7. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Oct 16 14:51:20 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:51:20 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Kerr-Plunk! Message-ID: <01bdf90c$0dbc2600$LocalHost@itjfvkli> I was pleasantly surprised to find the phrase "fuck right off with this shit" in today's little load of messages. It's been quite a while since we heard that kind of direct language on the list, and funnily enough it appeared in connection with the selfsame argument. Repitition, repitition. Repitition, repitition. I've got that Fall song "L.A.", I think it's on a b-side, possibly "Cruiser's Creek", possibly not. I recently claimed to only ever get nostalgic about before I was born, but mention of that song has made me come over all dewey-eyed about The Fall. (sigh). And 7" singles. I wish Tim was here to take the piss out of me. Ooooooooooon tells me that she's gone to the beach, but neglected to specify her chosen form of transport. The smart money's on outrigger canoe. The Lucksmiths got a glowing report in Record Collector a few months ago, all you Londoners should go. If FunkySeb is there, please tell him how much I enjoyed his most recent pub polaroid. It's a shame he's gone, he was just beginning to blossom. Fluffy, I've done your Northern Soul and Reggae for Lovers tape, all I need now is your address. Andrew Dean, I've done your B&S on the radio tape, all I need now is your address. I'm been very productive, thanks to a knackered back. I won't be able to make love to you all for quite a while, I'm afraid. I like it when Linda writes to us. Peter PS: Turkey 1 - Finland 3. Just when you least expect it, just what you least expect...bugger! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Fri Oct 16 14:56:12 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:56:12 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: bourgeoisie, working-class, botched capitalism In-Reply-To: <19981016112657.23527.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, A Nonnymouse wrote: > Fuck right off with this shit. > Since when was this list a political lecture? > > Through in a two line opinion by all means, but don't start spouting > pages of condescending shite. That's a flame and a pretty nasty one, directed at a list member, and I won't have it on my list. I've seen a thousands lists die this way, it brings everyone down, makes people nervous of posting, and leads to another 20 posts about who's the biggest arse on the list, which is very boring for the rest of us. Maybe Julien's explanation was a little, um, full and outside the scope of the original question, but I'd rather have someone French explaining a French word in a B&S song, because there had been some confusion, than this sort of reactionary knee-jerk. Consider this a warning, Nonny - flaming is the biggest sin on this list, considerally bigger than sending a party political broadcast (although please stop this too now! there are other political theory mailing lists out there you know...). I don't know any other way to say it than: be nice or be gone. Thanks David while I'm here for setting up the message boards on the Jeepster site for gig meet-ups and ticket swaps. Please could everyone who needs to sell/get tickets use his board for now rather than the list as it was getting a little swamped. And maybe we could have a few less mishearings :) We've got a stack of them on the WWW site from ages ago, so if anyone wants to update that page with the latest, ahem, B&S ones, if it still amuses, then grab the HTML off my page, add new ones from the list and send it back to me - you get your name in lights if you do. I just haven't time or the fingers to do this sort of compiling just now - I need a set of little elves with pointy ears and nice table manners. Brier's comments on WWW sites: for many people B&S DO represent the urge to go out and create things for yourself, and I'm really pleased every time I see someone from this who's done something creative on the WWW, rather than following the all-too-common tendency to patch together a scrapbook of other people's work. But you were a little too harsh on David: he's merely pointing out it exists already, there's a photo page which was set up by popular demand from *listees* for anyone who wants to send one and there's a lot there already. And more importantly there's a baby page, because there's nothing better than seeing a Sinisterine who's just posted something about literary criticism dribbling babyfood down her or his chin. And that more entries are of course welcome - just mail JPGs to me. It just seems a bit daft to have two pages, that's all. I'd really rather not have multiple spin-off Sinister WWW sites. People seem to have trouble enough finding the real one, where there's bags of information that people ask the list about instead of looking up. I can at least claim to keep the existing Sinister site reasonably up-to-date (when I'm not in bed), because it's got to be for my sake, and I'm scared of an ever-increasing number of disparate *Sinister* resources, with information about the list that might get out of date. But I think everyone here would be pleased to see new creative B&S sites with new content. No-one's trying to get all BBC about this (that's until I start charging for list membership. :) Oh gosh, and thanks everyone for stopping that UK/US thing: it reminds me of how special this list can be, every other list I'm on seems to be exploding with civil war just now. You're all good little things really and when I get better I'll buy you some sweets and take you to the park. Honey x P.S. I had some more cards, including a cracker from a lot of people in London having fun without me; thanks so much, my cheeks are all rosy. Finally thanks to Chris Leonard who's special recipe to make me well is to bombard me with filthy smut via email all day: he's telling me about his wee-wee just now. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Derek.J.Weisel at xxx.edu Fri Oct 16 16:14:26 1998 From: Derek.J.Weisel at xxx.edu (Derek J Weisel) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:14:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: BWTAS Ques Message-ID: I purchased the US version of Boy with the Arab strap, but later saw the English import selling for considerably more. Are the extra tracks on the non-US versions? -Derek +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SpaceboyUK at xxx.com Fri Oct 16 16:19:10 1998 From: SpaceboyUK at xxx.com (SpaceboyUK at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:19:10 EDT Subject: Sinister: Nick Drake (five leaves left) Message-ID: <1f3b9b12.362763ee@aol.com> hi there. does anyone know where i could purchase NICK DRAKE- FIVE LEAVES LEFT on VINYL? because i've looked and i just can't find it. thanks . -a.james +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Fri Oct 16 16:19:34 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:19:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: BWTAS Ques References: Message-ID: <36276406.FBDF0983@jeepster.co.uk> the US and UK versions do not vary in any way (except the vinyl, where the UK version is sightly thicker vinyl), the price difference is simply because the importer has had to pay import duties on all goods they ship into the US. i think if you were going to buy both versions, its because you're a 'completist' and want all formats and all releases. if you don't care for having every item like this, then just stick to the one you own. :) Derek J Weisel wrote: > > I purchased the US version of Boy with the Arab strap, but later saw the > English import selling for considerably more. Are the extra tracks on > the non-US versions? > > -Derek > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Fri Oct 16 16:23:37 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:23:37 +0100 Subject: Sinister: people with b&s sites Message-ID: <362764F9.F6B4DB65@jeepster.co.uk> i've just created a links section that put my old one to shame, anyone can add links to the page by filling out a brief form. what i hope is that this will encourage a comprehensive list of all of the b&s resources in one place. i know there are a few large sites, but there are literally loads of smaller mentions and resources which deserve a mention. so if you have a site, page or know of one (including press), then submit the link to the new links page and everyone can find it. the board will only accept your URL once, so please make sure you put it in the right catefory. shameless self-promotion isn't permitted, just put in the description what you feel your site has so that people can find what they want easier. cheers david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fahmed at xxx.uk Fri Oct 16 16:45:05 1998 From: fahmed at xxx.uk (Faraz Ahmed) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:45:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Unsolicted mail Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981016164505.0079de20@mail.bcftcs.ac.uk> Dear anyone Could you not send me any unsolicited mail, as I am getting clogged up. It is very annyoing. Plaese Thank YOU +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cleonard at xxx.COM Fri Oct 16 17:01:00 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:01:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Squirrels are lovely/Honey get better charity event Message-ID: Dear yous, Apparently it's going to snow today in glasgow. I hope it does so that I can walk in the park and play with the little squirrels and hedgehogs. I know there only after something to eat, but I pretend they follow me because they want to be my friends. To tell the truth I don't like the grey squirrels much, cos they killed all the red squirrels. I say I don't like them, then I see one and it's all fluffy and lovely, just like Stuart Murdoch. Love, Christopher PS. I got this from Honey Honey: > What I'd like more than anything is a special "i wove you" >episode in a good cause, my illness, like Live Aid. I dream of an >episode where Stuart and Stephen both fall in love with me and tend >me back to health in their own inimitable and amusing styles. >Here's a picture of you I sneakily took in London when you were on the >bog. ........snip So I'll give it a shot. Once upon a time they're was a little girl called Honey, because her hair was the colour of honeycomb. She lived in a mansion in the bestest, poshest part of Edinburgh, where AIDS is rife. Honey had developed the ability to shapeshift and could easily turn into any object she imagined. As you might suspect, a little girl can imagine quite a few things! She turned herself into a dragon, an eagle, a scrotum clencher, a waronker and a paper boar all before tea time. Now, one day she turned herself into a man and fell in love with a beautiful girl called Linda, who looked a little like a dark haired Cameron Diaz. This was strange because inside Honey was a girl, so he was really a lesbian. This, of course, is perfectly acceptable behaviour in 1998, there's nothing wrong being a lesbian. It means there's more men about for the rest of us. Honey decided she was happy and decided to become a full time man. She went to university and stumbled upon some quasars and the second largest object in the universe. She soon became Dr. Honey. But she was bored. One day she found a strange letter under her door. "I'm a girl, just like you, wove stuart" it said. "Blimey!" exclaimed Honey - "I thought I was the only shapeshifter girl in the world!". He dashed out into the cold rain to search for the mysterious shapeshifting stuart. My how she searched, until she wasn't well and had to go to bed and lie down. Linda nursed Honey but she couldn't do anything. He was feverish and a fucking wreck. Things weren't looking good. Honey stayed in her bed for 40 years until she was an old man. Her shapeshifting days were over. Linda went away to Australia, then to Thailand for a couple days were Oon taught her how to gamble. Just when he was getting ready to die, there's was a little knock at the door. "Hewwo, can I come in" said a little voice. "You may", said honey. A little scrawny shite of an old man came in "I put a wittle wetter under your door fowty years ago! I'm a girl too!!". Honey was not amused and instantly got better and battered the wee bastard. "You made me ill looking for you, ya swine!". "Sowwy", said little Stuart, "I'm weally weally sowwy". As we know, it's a fine line between love and hate. Honey fell in love with little Stuart and they both hopped into bed. Unsuspecting Linda arrived home, and found them hard at it! She was mortified - "you bastards!" she screamed and started to batter Honey and Stuart. As we know, it's a fine line between love and hate. Linda fell in love with little Stuart and Honey and she hopped into bed too. There's many intriguing possibilities with two shapeshifters, I can tell you. End That's that then. I got a little sidetracked half way through, sorry about that. Hopefully honey should be better and ready to administer some discipline to you naughty boys and girls. c +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Oct 16 17:19:54 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:19:54 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Filth Request/A Spaceboy Answer Message-ID: <01bdf920$cfcb0360$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Paul revealed: Finally thanks to Chris Leonard who's special recipe to make >me well is to bombard me with filthy smut via email all day: he's >telling me about his wee-wee just now. That's all very well, and I can understand that Paul's need for smut is greater than ours at this point in time, but there was time when it was all filth and smut round here, this list was founded on smut really, and just lately there's been a considerable drop in the filth level, largely due to Susannah's reluctance to dish the dirt on all and sundry, like in the good old days. So come on, Chris, let us all enjoy your smut. It doesn't have to be the same smut, any smut will do. It seems to be working anyway, Paul sounds reasonably chirpy, and is back to his Mister Barraclough from "Porridge" best. Last week you were just going to kick people off with no court of appeal, this week it's warnings all round. Good on you skipper! SpaceboyUK wrote: does anyone know where i could purchase NICK DRAKE- FIVE LEAVES LEFT on VINYL? because i've looked and i just can't find it. thanks . According to the Nick Drake biography discography (if you know what I mean), the album you are looking for is still in print, and you should be able to order it from all good music stockists. The catalogue number is: ILPS 9105 While I'm at it, you can get the Nick Drake fanzine from Jason Creed, 34 Kingsbridge Road, Walton-on-Thames, Surrey KT 12 2BZ. There, I hope that helps. Sometimes I surprise even myself. By the way, I said I couldn't make love to you all, but of course I can if you're all willing to get on top and do all the work. Still no word from Andy or Sarah, this is getting beyond a joke. I'm bored, can you tell? Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Oct 16 17:34:13 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:34:13 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Unsolicted Filth Message-ID: <01bdf922$cf750940$LocalHost@itjfvkli> >Could you not send me any unsolicited mail, as I am getting clogged up. It >is very annyoing. Plaese Well, seeing as you said plaese.....perhaps someone has put you on the list as a kind of practical joke. If you follow the links at the bottom of the message, you'll find out how to remove yourself. Of course, I might be barking up the completely wrong tree. Congratulations to Christopher Alexander Leonard on another super story. You must be psychic, I hadn't even sent in my request for filth yet. As for little woodland creatures, I got weally cwose to a Kingfisher this afternoon, close enough to see him jerk his head about whilst watching fishies. I followed him all along the sea wall until some bastard decided to wallop his car mats on the wall to get the dust off, causing Mister Kingfisher to fly off in understandable alarm. I've noticed that nobody notices Kingfishers, they must be either blind or extremely blasé. I'll stop my Rodd impersonation now. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alerche at xxx.net Fri Oct 16 19:16:08 1998 From: alerche at xxx.net (Andre Vieira) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:16:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Covers Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981016191608.006e0a98@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net> Marco asked a long long time ago and even compiled the results but I'm a few digests late, so here it goes: >this day i listened all the B&S's cd watching all the cover . >My conclusion : the most beautiful cover is in "lazy line painter jane". > >The question for everyone is : for you? The cover from LLPJ is lovely, but I prefer "369 Seconds of Light". No band name, no album title, just two young smiles shinning in silver. Not to mention Stuart's nipple, of course. "369 Seconds of Light" features more skin than all other covers put together (although Tigermilk is not bad either). If you're a nipple freak, check out this computer wallpaper made from Struan's nipple (seriously!): Cheers, Andre. ******************************************************* happy for a day - some belle and sebastian thoughts contact us at: +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Fri Oct 16 18:29:40 1998 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksandaJill) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:29:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Philadelphia B&S Aftershow--free! Message-ID: <199810161729.NAA32618@dept.english.upenn.edu> Hello Sinisterites, Just an open friendly invitation for those of you attending the show in Philadelphia who are 21+ (OK, so it's not *that* open, but club rules are club rules unfortunately!) to join us upstairs at the Balcony (the bar above and inside the Trocadero) for a free after-show. Who's us? Clock Strikes Thirteen from Philadelphia, and I promise we are not loud fast screaming idiots...you might even like us.:) We've had a release on Scotland's Tinseltones Records out of Kilmarnock, and...that's where our Scottish connection ends. This show starts immediately following the conclusion of B&S on the mainstage. Also playing after us is a band from Philly also called Marvy who I've never seen, but there are rumors that he sounds Morrissey-esque?? Your mozzage may vary... Anyhoo, it'd be nice to see you all, why not say hi if you decide to risk it. Take care, Xavoer -- BXK "It's recess everywhere bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu but in his heart." http://www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 --Ralph Wiggum X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From noelani30 at xxx.com Fri Oct 16 18:53:28 1998 From: noelani30 at xxx.com (Jessica Noelani Wright) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:53:28 PDT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981016175328.29971.qmail@hotmail.com> sorry for the "un-b&s" content but..... for all the UK people in or near London.... I would like to go to grad school in London next year and study art history. if anyone knows any good programs, could you be so kind as to email me? i'm sorry, but my resources are few. thanks for your time -jess noelani30 at hotmail.com -------------------------------------- "happiness is a hermit who lives on a hill and speaks to no one joy is the money he buries in the yard and forgets where it is he dies and all the neighbors of the world come digging finding nothing but at least they have their little daydreams" -Judybats ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SpaceboyUK at xxx.com Fri Oct 16 19:41:13 1998 From: SpaceboyUK at xxx.com (SpaceboyUK at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:41:13 EDT Subject: Sinister: the friday extra review of Belle & Sebastian Message-ID: <71528708.36279349@aol.com> i thought this might be interesting. maybe i'm wrong...but here it is: the newspaper in my town,The Tampa Tribune,gave BWTAS 3 1/2 stars out of 4,and that was the best out of all their reviews. and here's a quote i thought was interesting: "As good as the album was [sinister] ,'The Boy With The Arab Strap' leaves it in the dust...." very nice people around here. i didnt expect it to even be in the paper. good day. -a.james +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mgillen at xxx.ca Fri Oct 16 20:45:26 1998 From: mgillen at xxx.ca (Girl in the Snow) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:45:26 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Misheard Lyrics Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981016154526.007a1890@scimail.uwaterloo.ca> I'm really enjoying these and thought I'd share the funniest one I've ever heard. It was several years ago and my friend Alison and I were driving around listening to Catherine Wheel. Black Metallic was on and my friend started singing. "It's the colour of your skin, Your skin is like Nutella" . Instead of your skin is black metallic. Nutella is this really nasty hazelnut and chocolate spread some people put on there bread. It looks really gross. Kinda like a shit sandwich. She swore that was the line even after we laughed histarically at her. My only Belle one was from Me and the Major. I thought he was singing "I want to dance I want to drink a whiskey sour" Mmmm whiskey sours are yummy! Take care +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Fri Oct 16 21:07:15 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid Dossinger) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:07:15 -0400 Subject: Sinister: For that select group of people attending the DC & Athens galas Message-ID: <3627A771.ED295475@bigfoot.com> Hooray! I just got my Athens tickets in the mail, and that good friend to all, Christian Scanniello has secured my spot at the DC B&S Rock-a-thon. I'm in, and damn excited. In honor of Our Favorite Band I'm dribbling spit and wetting myself. If you haven't gotten your tickets to either one of these shows yet, you best get a move on. My Athens tickets are numbered 690 and 691 for a venue that holds 800, and I'm told by Christian that the DC show is about 30 away from a sell-out. Just thought I'd let you know. A massive thank-you to those of you who have been posting reviews and set-lists of the shows. That's one of the main reasons that I've stayed on this list (the humor factor is the other). So for any of those going to the US and Canadian dates, I'd love to hear your adventures. And nerds who keep track of the set lists are my favorite kind of nerds, so keep it up, please. At least one person is interested. Very interested indeed... With a spoon and a decent book, Reid +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Fri Oct 16 21:48:49 1998 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksandaJill) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:48:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Francoise Hardy...a must Message-ID: <199810162048.QAA26382@dept.english.upenn.edu> Hey all. As I'm a new person I was just wondering if anyone has discussed Francoise Hardy at any length. If not, may I humbly recommend her '60s output? Hers is a soothing warm langorous voice stolen by Letitia Stereolab with spare but lush instrumentation behind her, either beautifully folky six and twelve-stringed strum or spare surfy country. Look for collections with "Le Temps De L'amour" and "Rendez-vous D'Automne" (my personal fave). Apparently at one point Bob Dylan, Mick Jagger and a slew of others were obsessed with her. Anyways, name's Benjamin Xavier Kim, pleased to meet you all (though some of you I know already). Giddy like a schoolgirl for next Friday's show... Xavier -- BXK "It's recess everywhere bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu but in his heart." http://www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 --Ralph Wiggum X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Christian at xxx.com Fri Oct 16 22:26:14 1998 From: Christian at xxx.com (Christian Havins) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:26:14 -0500 Subject: Sinister: you'll have the fireplace burning bright Message-ID: <3627B9E8.DAF2B50B@perx.com> does anyone have plans to meet before the chicago show on monday the 26th? somewhere preferably near and warm? gently, christian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tton at xxx.edu Fri Oct 16 22:51:00 1998 From: tton at xxx.edu (THAIAN N TON) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:51:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Nutella!! In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981016154526.007a1890@scimail.uwaterloo.ca> Message-ID: Hello beautiful listees, my little B&S content for the day is that i've framed a little poster of Twattybus and put in on my wall ... i'm getting very happy about the philly concert next week and managed to pull a new-found-convert with me. & it will be so much fun to meet others from the sinister club ... on to this nutella issue, i must protest: On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, Girl in the Snow wrote: Nutella is this really nasty > hazelnut and chocolate spread some people put on there bread. It looks > really gross. Kinda like a shit sandwich. She swore that was the line > even after we laughed histarically at her. hmm. well, i can only confess that my true obsession is to have a nutella covered B&S album. nutella is definitely the goo of gods and not a "shit sandwich" ... i spent a winter photographing different people with a jar of nutella. i even have a picture i call ... try it, you'll like it. it's far from a shit sandwich and gross. having a wonderful B&S day cos only 7 days to hear them! -wee chi chi xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Fri Oct 16 23:39:19 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:39:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Block 123 In-Reply-To: <199810161301.OAA14783@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000201bdf955$d00707e0$220f93c3@whelan> Ian wrote... > I saw Stuart M playing Lord Anthony in the old 13th Note (Glasgow) with > Mick Cooke before B&S were formed (cant remember the exact year or > anything). The Lord Anthony bit was a reference to the label that used to > appear on the jackets made by the company of the same name, the guy in the > song has one of these jackets. If I remember rightly these jackets were > around at the same time as the Parka jacket, but were not as cool, and the > wearers of Lord Anthonys were therefore open to ridicule. Lord Anthony did do Parkas, but they weren't like the "fish tail" parkas that mods wear. I had an LA one when I was in Primary school, but then most people did at the time. They were great, except when the hood was completely zipped up so that the furry bit covered your face and got in your mouth. As for ridicule, surely dragging people round the schoolyard by the loop thing on the top/back of the hood was much more fun. bye Gary +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From User864786 at xxx.com Sat Oct 17 01:27:59 1998 From: User864786 at xxx.com (User864786 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:27:59 EDT Subject: Sinister: Nutella!! Message-ID: Fellow B&S followers: I, too, am a big Nutella gobbler. I bought some of the brown goo a year ago and haven't turned back since. It goes well on almost anything made of bread, i.e., shortbread cookies, toast, english muffins, french bread, etc. Also, it tastes really good on a big, ripe, delicious banana. Yummy! Speaking of Yummy, has anyone out there ever heard of the band by the name Yum Yum? They are superb. Go out and buy the CD. See ya! Shawn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sat Oct 17 02:00:22 1998 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:00:22 PDT Subject: Sinister: bourgeoisie Message-ID: <19981017010023.23935.qmail@hotmail.com> > >Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:38:54 +0100 >From: Nick Grundy >Subject: RE: Sinister: bourgeoisie > >At 04:26 16/10/98 PDT, A Nonnymouse wrote: >> >>Fuck right off with this shit. >>Since when was this list a political lecture? > >Yeah. I mean, Belle and Sebastian never mention social or political issues >in *any* of their songs. I mean, they were probably just using the word >"bourgeoisie" because they read it on the back of a cereal packet. It >doesn't matter what it means as long as it sounds nice. Sort of like Oasis. the statement made me laugh in a way it reminded me of our year-book writeups we have to do,everyone always writes happy 'i'll miss you,remember the good times, S.D + G.W forever' etc etc (me? i wrote BOO! to the buisness world) my friend's goodbye message is 'screw polotics,screw religion,screw life and screw you' were all such happy bunnies mm hmmm. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TheeXVirus at xxx.com Sat Oct 17 02:03:42 1998 From: TheeXVirus at xxx.com (TheeXVirus at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:03:42 EDT Subject: Sinister: Nick Drake (five leaves left) Message-ID: <2334cd03.3627ecee@aol.com> use one of those record search services, it's just pricey....or search in deja news, there were a couple people selling the 3lp set (the albums but not time of no reply) for about $50.... justin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From escossia at xxx.br Sat Oct 17 02:29:20 1998 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:29:20 -0300 Subject: Sinister: Misheard Lyrics Message-ID: <01bdf96d$906dac20$d37defc8@default> >My only Belle one was from Me and the Major. I thought he was singing "I >want to dance I want to drink a whiskey sour" Mmmm whiskey sours are yummy! My God I know i SHOULD NOT send this,but .... *A Summer Wasting* "... You heard the bird say / Everything will be fine... " I thought he was singing "...You have the pussy / Everything will be fine .." ~~~^~^v^~^v^~^v^~^v^~v^~^v^~^v^~ Ivo A P Escossia +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Sat Oct 17 03:35:04 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:35:04 -0700 Subject: Sinister: I Could Be Dreaming Too Message-ID: <00af01bdf976$c0b53480$a49fcdcf@brier> Sorry for the incomplete post. It was meant to ask where I could find the lyrics to the spoken word bit at the end of "I Could Be Dreaming"... something about His Majesty George the 3rd and a Gigantic Word In the Dictionary? Thanks. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Sat Oct 17 04:03:05 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:03:05 -0400 Subject: Sinister: ink family portrait Message-ID: here's a "family portrait" of the people i live with. just felt like sharing. :) top row (from right): That's mark with the black hair and black hooded sweatshirt. He's the Messy One. next to him is Trinh, the petite girl with the dark bobbed hair. she's the Captain. next to her is Kat with the silly grin on her face. she's the Happy Punk. on her left is Ian -- he's wearing that godawful winter vest. he's the Sarcastic One. and next to him is Hope. She's the Quiet One. bottom row (from right): James is the tall one with the short short hair. he's the Indie Rock Kid. next to him is Azesha in the cords and sweater -- she's the Hippie. on her left is Liz. she has blonde hair and she's holding a white telephone. she's the Girl That's Always On the Phone. and there i am next to Liz with the reddish-brown hair and the lopsided smile. i'm the Sciece Geek. not pictured: caroline -- the Invisible One. -kerry "you silly old man in your misguided trousers." -morrissey, "get off the stage" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starrrbuck at xxx.com Sat Oct 17 10:47:25 1998 From: starrrbuck at xxx.com (wingless angel) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:47:25 +0800 Subject: Sinister: mishearing Message-ID: <362867AD.7BBDCFAB@geocities.com> >ever since someone mentioned that "me and the midget" thing every time i >listen to it i can't help but sing along as if it really was "midget" and >not "major." >and i must admit, the part about not seeing eye to eye is fucking hilarious >that way. >pardon my foul language. >thank you. >- -kerry oh yes, that is funny. hehehe. this is the best laugh i've had all day, thanx. i was wondering from a moment there why i recognised your email kerry, before i realised that you are a rhml person. wow, small world!! like yesterday on the irc when i bumped into the sister of a guy i know at my uni who got me some radiohead tapes. hmmmm. fiona -- if you want me look me up, i don't exist in usual places - belle & sebastian the desk for dana fund: http://dscully.cjb.net irc: #dana_desk on dalnet x-index: http://xindex.cjb.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eng98ajo at xxx.se Sat Oct 17 12:28:03 1998 From: eng98ajo at xxx.se (Anna J) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 13:28:03 +0200 Subject: Sinister: B&S on Swedish radio... Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981017132803.00919b00@student3.lu.se> Hello people (staring at your computer screens), I saw someone asking what had happened to the B&S session that was to be broadcast on P3 Live this Monday, and so did I, so I sent a little mail to P3, and under the threat of being followed by my own personal squad of Playmobile figures and promises of sugar, they replied today, blaming it on the lovely Frenchies. They said French radio hadn't finished the recording in time (which is odd since it's already been on French radio) and they wouldn't set a new date until they had the very tape in their hands, so I guess this just means some more waiting. How about we all meet up and take some compromising pictures of little Playmobilemen to pass the time as we wait? Anna :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Sat Oct 17 15:22:30 1998 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgal) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 07:22:30 PDT Subject: Sinister: B&S on Swedish radio... Message-ID: <19981017142231.28683.qmail@hotmail.com> hello Anna, sure I'm up for another swedish/fan meeting.. where were you when we met before the concert.. do you also live in stockholm?? we are a bunch of people here and near by..maybe I can talk my lovely friend Jonas(a major fan) into having some belle people over at his flat to listen to records and sing along and cry out of joy to all the songs and be as swedish and silly we all are...?? what do you recon?? :) or maybe you'd like to be a hostess.. this is a sweet idea coming from a sweet girl I assume love you belle fans... hugs Rebecka anyone up for it..write something.. or if you're bored visit me site.. http://www.angelfire.com/me/Mizzy Hello people (staring at your computer screens), I saw someone asking what had happened to the B&S session that was to be broadcast on P3 Live this Monday, and so did I, so I sent a little mail to P3, and under the threat of being followed by my own personal squad of Playmobile figures and promises of sugar, they replied today, blaming it on the lovely Frenchies. They said French radio hadn't finished the recording in time (which is odd since it's already been on French radio) and they wouldn't set a new date until they had the very tape in their hands, so I guess this just means some more waiting. How about we all meet up and take some compromising pictures of little Playmobilemen to pass the time as we wait? Anna :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From coool_air at xxx.com Sat Oct 17 16:35:20 1998 From: coool_air at xxx.com (Claire Timmins) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 08:35:20 PDT Subject: Sinister: You gotta have soul Message-ID: <19981017153520.15658.qmail@hotmail.com> hey kids. I am attempting to do something I never managed to succeed at before, and create a meeting of alike minds and maybe some B&S fans in Ireland. So anyone who is located around Dublin and would be interested then mail me back. And are any others interested setting up a twee rock, jazz funk collaboration album, slightly what commercialised, and calling it A.U.N.T.Y. With guest appearances from the lead singer of the Gyres, Jimi Tenor and obviously Cyndi Lauper. I'm bored today. Also I want to ask the gorgeous Nolan sisters, Keith and Peter about their ability to make me tapes(?) of Northern soul, as would be likely to be heard at UPTIGHT, GOODFOOT stylee clubs. I would be forever in your debt, and would probably enjoy it. I hate this thesis, but I love you guys, Claire ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iles at xxx.uk Sat Oct 17 18:11:55 1998 From: iles at xxx.uk (Mark Iles) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:11:55 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Mishearings - do they matter? Message-ID: >My ridiculous ex-boyfriend (from many many moons ago) heard INXS' "Suicide >Blonde" as "soup and salad bar"... I always thought that they were singing 'suicide of love' and as if they were trying to suggest that all love is pointless or something... I think I must be the only one here who doesn't really bother reading the lyrics. If I'm singing along to a song and don't know what the words are, I just sing whatever they sound like to me, however unlikely that might be. Like in Me and the Major I always sing "He remembers _watching_ music in 72". Now I know that's not right beause it makes no sense so I just went to the web site to check what it was (fr the purpose of this mail) and it turns out to be _Roxy_ Music. I'll even play a song to someone and tell them how much I like it and comment that I've never understood what they sing at a particular moment and the person I'm telling can't believe I've never bothered to check the lyrics. But does it _really_ matter? I think you can pick up the general feeling or mood of a song without knowing exactly what it's about. Obviously if you mishear something and give it completely the opposite meaning it'll never make any sense (Me and the Midget must distort the entire meaning). But I know that Me and the Major is about the gap between two people from completely different generations and how they don't really understand each other but that there's some empathy between them (at least from the singer) all the same. And I don't think knowing all the lyrics especially helps you to feel what the songs about - I think you're a lot better off just listening to it - it's meant to be heard, after all, not read. What do other people think? Mark P.S. Having said that I do read the lyrics to some sons, like Arab Strap's because I have terrible trouble understanding them otherwise... ___________________________________________________________________________ Mark Iles, Tel: +44 (0113) 2065042 Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Fax: +44 (0113) 2340183 Genetic Epidemiology Laboratory, Ashley Wing, Email: iles at boreas.leeds.icnet.uk St James's University Hospital, Beckett Street, Leeds, LS9 7TF U.K. ____________________________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steve at xxx.uk Sat Oct 17 20:48:51 1998 From: steve at xxx.uk (Steve Genge) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 20:48:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Lucksmiths live & on the web Message-ID: Well you can forget The Beatles at the Cavern, Stone Roses at Spike Island or Billie at the Great Yarmouth radio one roadshow cos I was THERE! I'm talking about The Lucksmiths at the Blue Soda social thing last night. Where were you??? Actually it was probably just as well you couldn't make it as it was a trifle cramped but a wonderful time was had by all. For those who missed it you can catch The Lucksmiths in full effect (or something) in a web broadcast from Sweden this very wednesday evening at: http://www.benno.com/ Times etc are on the site now. In the meantime if you're sitting there thinking "The Lucksmiths?" & in the shameless spirit of self promotion you can read a bit about them & also a kinda review of last night`s event at: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Cabaret/9043 Now I'm going back to my dreams about the fact I coulda reached out & snuggled Funkyseb. "Pain and beauty, our constant bedfellows." Sabine Strohem steve at seahorses.demon.co.uk Red Roses For Me Fanzine & Records For Sale http://surf.to/redroses +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Sat Oct 17 23:59:21 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (JJ) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 23:59:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk in Edinburgh, allegedly Message-ID: <36292149.24D9@seahouses.u-net.com> Hi kids. Someone posted on the NME's angst messageboard today that there is a vinyl Tigermilk for sale in Avalanche in Edinburgh, it's 200 quid so it's probably in shit condition. So. Get yrrrrselves down/up to Cockburn St if you're feeling a bit flushed. JJ xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Sun Oct 18 08:30:51 1998 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 03:30:51 EDT Subject: Sinister: Re: Francoise Hardy Message-ID: <1eb40533.3629992b@aol.com> In a message dated 10/17/98 7:19:22 PM, you wrote: <> Even Nick Drake was supposed to write some songs for her but he passed away before it could ever happen. Pete G +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Sun Oct 18 08:33:26 1998 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 03:33:26 EDT Subject: Sinister: Nick Drake LP Message-ID: <425f74b0.362999c6@aol.com> In a message dated 10/17/98 7:19:22 PM, you wrote: <> I have a copy of Time Of No Reply on LP for sale for $15. Pete +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From strawz at xxx.com Sun Oct 18 12:36:27 1998 From: strawz at xxx.com (nicole verkerk) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 04:36:27 PDT Subject: Sinister: new to london Message-ID: <19981018113627.29515.qmail@hotmail.com> hi all, i just got to london and i was wondering if there are any hepcats here who wouldn't mind giving me some helpful hints? after a night of "clubbing" last night i could really use some. my email is strawz at hotmail.com oh yeah, and i am nicole here from Canada thanks nicole ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amesricroy at xxx.com Sun Oct 18 14:24:24 1998 From: amesricroy at xxx.com (Schnugglepuss) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 06:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Embarrassingly stupid question... Message-ID: <19981018132424.14995.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> I'm confused. Just how do you get thrush from licking railings? Thank you. Bye! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From u01cjtc at xxx.uk Sun Oct 18 15:41:30 1998 From: u01cjtc at xxx.uk (Colin Campbell) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:41:30 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Embarrassingly stupid question... In-Reply-To: <19981018132424.14995.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: You can get oral thrush by licking railings that have got candida albicans, the fungus, growing on them. Although I'm not entirely sure if it can grow on railings as it normally only grows in the nice, warm, moist bits of people. Hello children, hope you are all well and happy. colin. On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, Schnugglepuss wrote: > > I'm confused. Just how do you get thrush from licking railings? Thank > you. Bye! > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From padraic_fresheire at xxx.com Sun Oct 18 17:24:40 1998 From: padraic_fresheire at xxx.com (padraic doorey) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 09:24:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: i'm not really unsubscribing Message-ID: <19981018162440.5694.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> hi all - i'm not leaving the list really...i'm just going to subscribe using a different email addy as this fresheire thing is almost full and i just don't know where to begin deleting, so instead i'm going to use wizzcake at yahoo.com. 'kay? can't wait for the philly show - only five days left! lerve, lady penelope _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Sun Oct 18 19:31:18 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:31:18 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Mud In-Reply-To: <01bdf922$cf750940$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Message-ID: I'm only half awake so I'll keep thi short. The reason I'm half awake (at most) is because I've just got back from an outdoor weekend thingy near O*f*rd. If I told you all the things we did you wouldn't believe me when I said I enjoyed it (unless you all think I'm a masochist I guess...), but there is a tremendous satisfaction to be had by working as a team to build a raft for our kit to go on (we of course had to swim across the rather chilly lake), or by walking blindfolded through waist-high water under a foot-high bridge, in the muddiest smeggiest water you've ever see. Maybe I'm mad and delusional from lack of sleep and food, but it was a good laugh. Anyway, to get to the point (not that it's really worth getting to, but never mind), PJ wanted more smut on the list, so I'd just like to say that I spent last night snuggled up in bed with 11 other people. And half of them were female as well. And I mean snuggled up - at least half of my body was touching one of the women next to me. Beat that Chris... Right, I'm off to sleep... Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atieger at xxx.com Sun Oct 18 19:59:53 1998 From: atieger at xxx.com (aaron tieger) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 11:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981018185953.11246.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Does anybody know who is on the bill for the Boston show this Wednesday? Also what time it is? I could just call and find out, sure, but I'm sitting on the internet right now and thought I'd ask (anything to put off studying for the GRE's). Also, I read something (in Chirckfactor, maybe?) about B&S covering "reel around the fountain." Does anyone have a copy of this anywehere, a bootleg I guess? Thanks. aaron === atieger at rocketmail.com auger/anvil "So goodbye, so long, the road calls me dear and your tears cannot bind me anymore And farewell to the girl with the sun in her eyes I'll kiss you and then I'll be gone" --Tom Waits _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail, free e-mail for the planet. * Visit & explore Cybersmith at http://www.cybersmith.com * Get your web-based e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Sun Oct 18 20:17:43 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:17:43 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Re: In-Reply-To: <19981018185953.11246.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Message-ID: At 14:59 -0400 10/18/98, aaron tieger wrote: [Does anybody know who is on the bill for the Boston [show this Wednesday? Also what time it is? I could [just call and find out, sure, but I'm sitting on the [internet right now and thought I'd ask (anything to [put off studying for the GRE's). [ (snip) [ [Thanks. [ [aaron [ apparently the doors open at 8pm. i have no *clue* who's opening. pardon the short post. -kerry "how do they get deer to cross at that yellow sign?" -some guy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Sun Oct 18 23:54:18 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 18:54:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: lolitapop dollhouse Message-ID: ok, if anyone other than brian, matt, elisa, or tag get the topic line, i'll give you a lollipop. well, it's another sunday in this coastal town, did you all ever think of new york as a coastal town? i mean, we're really right out on the atlantic so we are. though i guess the town part doesn't work. this is the first time i've lived in a town that's situated on the ocean. or right next too really. i've lived within an hour or so, but it's nice to be there. though in all honesty, it terribly easy to forget you're on an island when you live in new york. no matter how high you get, you keep seeing buildings. except for the really tall ones, like the empire state building and the world trade center. but i haven't been to the top of either. have any of you read the alienist? it was a very good book by caleb carr, a murder mystery that takes place in new york city around the turn of the century. and the characters run back and forth about town jumping from the lower east side to christopher street and back to east 14th street in an hour. i barely venture to soho in a day, i can spend a week or more without leaving the village. but then they have carriages, and i just have my two feet. subways are fine but i tend to avoid them unless necessary due to the expense. i mean, i can walk 20 blocks and it's hard to justify not doing so sometimes. does anyone have any ideas for my upcoming films? i'm thinking of doing the next one in my friend sam's apartment, with chiruscuro lighting, like casablanca or a sam spade detective film. but it's kind of hard for me to gel some of these ideas, i get so caught up in the details. though it's better to work from the technical side back to the story, otherwise i come up with this complex story that could not be created with my limitations. about belle and sebastian... i've spent so much of the list's bandwith for my own needs that i feel like i should offer something of general interest for everyone who's been patient enough to read this far without knowing me. within a week the kids in boston and toronto should begin gushing out their praises, and i'll be doing so in two weeks. i'm a little nervous, i hope i'm not expecting too much. but then, i've seen lots of bands perform before, some of whom i'd idolized even more (cause i can't adore b&s now as much as i adored other bands when i was 15. it just isn't the same thing) and have yet to be disappointed when it really counted. and anyone coming to the new york meet ups from far away, if you'd like to be on our picnic mailing list, which is basically just the list of addresses of people that we send more specific info to about new york things that wouldn't be of general interest to the whole list, you should probably write to jonnykat at aol.com or matt at mphintz at aol.com. or just to me, even though it takes me a little time to reply sometimes, but i do. you just may have to wait for it. ;) xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Derek.J.Weisel at xxx.edu Mon Oct 19 02:29:27 1998 From: Derek.J.Weisel at xxx.edu (Derek J Weisel) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 21:29:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: 5 days till B&S Message-ID: Hi, I am new on the list but a big B&S fan. I am real excited because I am from Philadelphia and B&S are playing here on Friday. I bought the tickets months ago and the wait is almost over. I was given _If You are Feeling Sinister_ from a friend who was studying abroad in Scotland for a semester. I was blown away. I immediately bought all the singles and was hooked. I like _The Boy With the Arab Strap_ and am elated that that one of the seven cities they are coming to is Philadelphia. After the show I will be sure to post a description of the show and if my memory holds up a set-list. The only trick will be trying to identify the new songs and the songs from _Tigermilk_ (because no places around here even heard about B&S until _Boy with The Arab Strap_ let alone find a tape of a rare vinyl from Scotland, i hope that will change when they visit) Well I hope the show is good even though I have read some reviews of the live performances that were less than enthusiastic. Most of them were by people who said that Stuard's voice wasn't strong enough and that there was not enough electric guitar. These are probably the same people who attended the Ozzfest and were there for the midnite showings of Led Zeppelins _The Song Remains The Same_ and cry when they see John Bonham on the motorcycle, because,man, if he didn't love the rock life so much, maybe Led Zeppelin would still be around today and there would be peace in the world. Well to each their own, I just cant wait till Friday. -Derek from Philadelphia +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erinlew at xxx.com Mon Oct 19 03:03:48 1998 From: erinlew at xxx.com (Erin Lewis) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:03:48 PDT Subject: Sinister: "SQUAWK!!!!!" said the Poetry Parrot, "Tis Monday!" Message-ID: <19981019020349.26190.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey kids, While I was picking a poem for you lovely listees to read, I came across the latest issue of Pulse! magazine, and found a TOYBOATS review. It's so bad that I refuse to reprint it, but I will tell you that the adverb count was somewhere in the high 20s (it was only a two paragraph article), and the reviewer especially liked the songs "Spacebaby Dream" and "A Summer Wedding". Hee hee, says me. Onto the poems. I will preface the first by telling you that diverticulitis is a weird illness with which you can't eat any nuts or seeds (no strawberry jam, even), because your colon will swallow them up in tiny pockets in its lining and turn them into little monster appendages. So people who have it freak out if you give them baked goods, knowing you've probably spiked them with seeds inadvertently. The second excerpt is from a poem I found when I was far away from home, and it made me cry. That and sourdough bread were the only things that made me want to go home. And if you've eaten sourdough bread anywhere outside of California, you've only eaten white bread with an inflated ego. AHEM. "Eating the Cookies" by Jane Kenyon, American poet, 1947-1995 The cousin from Maine, knowing about her diverticulitis, left out the nuts, so the cookies weren't entirely to my taste, but they were good enough; yes, good enough. Each time I emptied a drawer or shelf I permitted myself to eat one. I cleared the closet of silk caftans that slipped easily from clattering hangers, and from the bureau I took her nightgowns and sweaters, financial documents neatly cinctured in long gray envelopes, and the hairnets and peppermints she'd tucked among Lucite frames abounding with great-grandchildren, solemn in their Christmas finery. Finally the drawers were empty, the bags full, and the largest cookie, which I had saved for last, lay solitary in the tin with a nimbus of crumbs around it. There would be no more parcels from Portland. I took it up and sniffed it, and before eating it, pressed it against my forehead, because it seemed like the next thing to do. -------- >From "San Francisco Blues", by Jack Kerouac: *37TH CHORUS* I got the San Acisca blues Singin in the street all day I got The San Acisca Blues Wailin in the street all day I better move on, podner, Make my West The Eastern Way- San Fran Cis Co- San Fran Cis Co Oh- ba by *38TH CHORUS* Ever see a tired ba by Cryin to sleep in its mother's arms Wailin all night long while the locomotive Wails on back A cry for a cry In the smoke and the lamp Of the hard ass night That's how I fee- eel- That's how I fee-eel! That's *how* I feel- What a deal! Yes I'm goin ho o ome ------------- Love, Miss Erin P.S. For next week's poem, I pick Abi, the cardie-wearing mouse rescuer who says the Superlambanana is a slide :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carrick44 at xxx.com Mon Oct 19 05:17:53 1998 From: carrick44 at xxx.com (Carrick C Blair) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 00:17:53 EDT Subject: Sinister: I Like Edie Sedgwick's Earrings. Message-ID: <19981018.223441.4591.3.carrick44@juno.com> Dear Brothers and Sisters, I was really going to make an effort to write more often to this here mailing list. It was a couple of weeks ago, and I told myself that I was going to write each day this week. Of course I never did. I....did something else instead. Days keep slipping by, and wait, only three days till our heroes will grace these American shores. Perfect time of year for all of this. The leaves are falling, the nights are getting cooler. Everything is starting to make a bit more sense. Things are coming into focus after the hot and hazy summer. And I was stacking firewood this evening, which as much as I'd hate to admit it, always puts me in a good mood. Does that make me 'simple'? So, yes, Edie Sedgwick. This all ties together somewhere. I got dragged to New York City yesterday, to go to the Whitney Museum to see some exhibit of some artist who I can't remember but was very good. Very big bold paintings. Lots of emotion. Anyway, they were also showing a film of Andy Warhol, "Outer and Inner Space". So I got to stare at four images of Edie Sedgwick for half an hour. At one point it struck me that she reminded me of our very own Isobelle. Maybe its just the hair cut. And Edie was wearing these really big earrings. They were wonderful. But I seem to remember that Edie was a bit of a mess in her later years. Didn't the Cult write a song about her? For all those coming in for the New York show on Sunday, maybe you can catch the film before the meet-up. There are showings at 11.30, 12.45, 2, 3.15, and 4.30. No shows Monday or Tuesday it seems, though. On Madison, at 75th street. Not sure if I'll be able to make the meet up. I think my little group will be drinking somewhere special. To let everybody know, this is Todd's last night out on the town, since he will be moving to The South. In the spirit of the UK after show club happenings, we were thinking of taking our little group of friends to this place called SHOUT! Never been myself, but its supposed to be a club in the 60's pop/soul vein. Its quite possible that it might be filled with pretentious neo-mods. If so, I'm sure a throng of hyped-up(possibly tipsy) Belle and Sebastian fans can out-class any pretentious neo-mod. And I'm sure we can out do them on the dance floor. We've all got SOUL. But just in case I'll bring a few extra Ben Shermans, if anybody needs help getting in the door. Some friends of mine, (including the infamous Todd) will be making a bit of a road trip to take in the Boston and Philly shows. I got my badge(or button as we Americans call it. A badge is something boy scouts get.) and my t-shirt all ready. I'll be the rather tall boy with red hair. And I'll probably be smiling. Ready, Set, Who!!!!....I mean Go! For those still reading, thank you. I'll save my mishearings and questions for some other time. love Carrick "I hand over my mouth...." -____________________________ ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From goon_koch at xxx.com Mon Oct 19 06:21:32 1998 From: goon_koch at xxx.com (Goon Koch) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:21:32 PDT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981019052132.13286.qmail@hotmail.com> Friends, I recently got the three singles in the mail and, frankly, I haven't a clue as to why so many people are so down on Dog on Wheels. Here's an ep with four great songs. I haven't had a chance to compare DOW's "The State I am in" to the Tigermilk version but Im blown away by this "demo." In my humble opinion, the vaunted LLPJ is a bloody meandering mess compared to DOW. Is there now a consensus as to how the sinisterites will show their colors at the New York and Philly shows. The lovely Janine suggested we all wear daisies and I think that is a wonderful idea. Personally, I plan to bring as many daisies as I can tastefully attach to my person. If I can find any, that is. I am grateful to see that Jeepster's threats of legal action against Tigermilk bootleggers are interspersed with promises of a rerelease next year. Thank you. We love you. Now who will help me unleash a veritable deluge of pathetic pleading mail on Canalot if this does not come to pass? Ok, I'm bitter because I'm still waiting for the stateside release of the Tindersticks b-sides compilation. . . I've held out as long as I could, but I can't any longer: Is there someone out there who could, maybe, in their precious spare time and out of the infinite kindness of their heart make me a copy of Tigermilk? I'd be willing to offer most anything that's legal in trade. Musically, I'm afraid the best I can offer in trade is a copy of Tindersticks' Amsterdam live album, which is my most prized possession and apparently a little rare. It has a killer rendition of "for those . . ." that I consider absolutely incomparable. okloveyoubyebye, -g. k.- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bjmckinn at xxx.edu Mon Oct 19 06:42:42 1998 From: bjmckinn at xxx.edu (Brian Joseph Mckinney) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 00:42:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk/unreleased hits In-Reply-To: <199810190527.GAA22274@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hello, I am new to this list and am in search of tigermilk and and unreleased songs. Can anybody help me out? Thanks Brian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MWaggner at xxx.com Mon Oct 19 06:52:47 1998 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:52:47 EDT Subject: Sinister: I Like Edie Sedgwick's Earrings. Message-ID: In a message dated 98-10-19 00:19:59 EDT, you write: > > Anyway, they were also showing a film of > Andy Warhol, "Outer and Inner Space". So I got to stare at four images of > Edie Sedgwick for half an hour. At one point it struck me that she > reminded me of our very own Isobelle. Maybe its just the hair cut. And > Edie was wearing these really big earrings. They were wonderful. But I > seem to remember that Edie was a bit of a mess in her later years. Didn't > the Cult write a song about her? For all those coming in for the New York > show on Sunday, maybe you can catch the film before the meet-up. There > are showings at 11.30, 12.45, 2, 3.15, and 4.30. No shows Monday or > Tuesday it seems, though. On Madison, at 75th street. > Oh, Edie *was* beautiful -- and there is indeed a resemblance to Isobel, now that you mention it. Hair and I think eyes. The photo on TBWTAS is very "Edie." She was an icon of sorts, in the Warhol heyday, and was sadly destroyed by it all. She didn't reach the same heights of fame as the other Warhol Superstars like Viva, etc., but Warhol was very taken with her, as was Bob Dylan who she believed loved her. There is an excellent book, "Edie: An American Biography" written by Jean Stein and edited by George Plimpton, that captures her life and the times very well. It explores her family, an old-monied WASP clan led by a manic- depressive father -- and its effect on her and hers on them as well. The book was written in an unusual style, as I remember, but it's up in the attic now and I don't feel like wading through crates of books at the moment. I think it is out of print in its original form, but there is a new book in paperback that might be the same, called "Edie: An American Girl." Well worth a read, the original at least. Was Eric Anderson in the movie you mentioned as well? I know he was in something called "Space" with her. Anyone on the list interested in lovely romantic songs sung by a soft-voiced boy with a guitar who seems to worship women might look into his recordings if they can find any. He was a promising "folksinger" of that time, who came close to hitting big, but sadly never quite did. Eric had some involvement with Patti Smith as well, and wrote her a great song called "Wild Crow." He lives in Norway now but still comes to NY each year and performs at the Bottom Line, sometimes with Rick Danko from the Band, sometimes with a funny French Canadian saxophonist. His new recordings aren't as good as the old, I don't think, but "Blue River" is gorgeous, as is "Stages: The Lost Album." The first time I heard a song by him I was immediately captured by it -- it was called "Is it Really Love at All." I can still remember hearing it that first time. Nothing ever grabbed me like that again until I heard IYFS. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bferneyhough at xxx.uk Mon Oct 19 09:17:16 1998 From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (Ben Ferneyhough) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:17:16 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: spreading the Tiger tale. Message-ID: <199810190817.JAA15382@brookes.ac.uk> Good day all, I went to see Damon & Naomi on Friday night, and as I thought it was nice of them to visit Oxford, I made them a Tigermilk tape. They seemed pleased with the pressie, but didn't seem to know them (eh ?!!), so I gave them a potted history, and Naomi said that they were playing Edinborrow - I corrected that too :) Anyway, the point of this mail is that I was wondering what other bands have been given Tigermilk as a present. I seem to remember someone giving Ben Folds Five one, and I guess The Pastels may have a copy too. Ben. __ _-==-=_,-. /--`' \_ at -@.--=\\_/`< ____ /= | \_| just wondering.... / `\ _/=== \___/ \___/ //\./=/~\====\ \ // / | ===: | ._/_,__|_ ==: __ \/ \\ \\`--| / \\ | \\:| /==:-\ \__/``\____/ | |--|==: \ \ ===\ :==:`-' _> \ ===\ /==/ /==\ | ===\__/--/ <=== \ / ====\ \\/ _`-- \/ === \/--' /______/_______/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Oct 19 10:53:51 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:53:51 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Stuffs and Things Message-ID: <01bdfb46$60c44580$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Hello Carnage F*ckers! Nolan Sisters? Starksy and Hutch? Eleven naked people in a tent? I'm lost for words. I bought Q magazine for the first time in ages. I must say, you haven't been keeping me very up to date - there's a new Keith Moon book! "What," thought Alice, "is the point of a book about keith Moon that isn't called Moon the Loon - The Amazing Rock 'n' Roll Life of Keith Moon?" B&S content: Someone is advertising "The Baby With The Arab Strap" for sale, which I find frankly disgusting. They must have seen "The Acid House" already. And in the charts: "These introspective folksters won't take pictures and refused to tour with Radiohead, so this Top 40 entry is arguably the "purest" reflection of public taste in the chart. However, their lack of commercial ambition borders on priggishness." So there we have it - Stuart Murdoch is a priggishness. Elsewhere in the magazine, there is bountiful evidence that so-called journalists have been keeping a watchful eye on us, well, Northy anyway, because the fact that Simon Fowler is a gayboy is covered. There is also a mention of "Joey Deacon" noises, and the reformed Lotus Eaters have had a great idea: "We'll play in the UK again, but not a rock venue. Probably a library!" I'd never really thought about the similarity between the Lotus Eaters and B&S, but it's more or less the same - slow bit, fast bit, acoustic instruments, plaintive boy/girl vocals, choirboyish charm, a barely concealed yearning to break free from the constraints of accepted "normal" sexuality... More ink polaroids are needed of the Po Caff and McRagtag's triumphant re-entry unto DJ Land. I'll happily do you a tape, Claire Timmins, but I'm no expert on the clubs you mention. The Twisted Wheel's my scene, you know, primitive instrumentals and wierd bee sting dances. Also, my investigation of the Brazillian music scene continues apace - the most beautiful song of all time is "O Leaozinho" by Caetano Veloso. This is what I mean about being nostalgic for before I was born, even though it's from 1977. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aszolnoki at xxx.com Mon Oct 19 11:50:09 1998 From: aszolnoki at xxx.com (Andras Zalan Szolnoki) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 03:50:09 PDT Subject: Sinister: Hobbes vs. Locke (a reply) Message-ID: <19981019105010.2223.qmail@hotmail.com> >From owner-sinister at majordomo.net Fri Oct 16 06:41:40 1998 >Received: from localhost (daemon at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA16542; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:38:39 +0100 >Received: by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:38:00 +0100 >Received: (from majordomo at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA16436 for sinister-outgoing; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:37:54 +0100 >Received: from haymarket.ed.ac.uk (haymarket.ed.ac.uk [129.215.128.53]) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA16430 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:37:50 +0100 >Received: from exchange1.abc.net.uk ([195.72.39.250]) > by haymarket.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA12717 > for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:37:48 +0100 (BST) >Received: from ncmserver.ncm.co.uk (mail1.ncm.co.uk [195.72.32.194]) by exchange1.abc.net.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) > id VARZY5S2; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:45:12 +0100 >Received: by NCMSERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) > id <47CTD1DQ>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:34:48 +0100 >Message-ID: <704AE307AB53D2119EE300805F7DF755E2F7 at NCMSERVER> >From: Neil Dewhurst >To: "'sinister at majordomo.net'" >Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:34:42 +0100 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Reply-To: Neil Dewhurst >X-List: Sinister ...although I think Locke (or it may be Hobbes) would disagree. According to Locke, man's natural state is war and conflict. His socio-political model is roughly, give or take a few interpretations and a bit of memory loss, as follows. This expands into a political model, where people in a society appreciate that they need rules to stop this kind of barbarity, so they club together and elect in some way an individual to rule them. Given the potentially evil nature of their leader they give him / her limited powers within which they can rule, so if their leader oversteps they get to oust them. - this is Locke , because the people have made a contract with the supreme. I think in the Hobbes model everyone is so loving and kind and naive that they just elect someone and decide that they're so trustworthy they give them unlimited power, probably because they weren't around when Lord Acton told the world that "power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts absolutely." - Hobby-boy is a bit confusing when it comes to the power of the supreme , because he wants the supreme to be an uber-man untouched by the laws he makes or by his subjects , but he doesn�t say explicitly that the surpreme can do whatever he wants to ( one can protect oneself from injustice etc.etc. ) , nor that one elected , he can rule as long as it suits him , because he says that people can rebel , if society has reached the state of anarchy b`cuz the supreme was the power or person to prevent that from happening , so there is no difference in having a supreme , but he also says that the contract is a contract between the people (they surrender some of their rights to gain security ) and not between the people and the supreme as locky . whooooo....... any comments?????? Ciao !!!!!! >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aszolnoki at xxx.com Mon Oct 19 12:05:49 1998 From: aszolnoki at xxx.com (Andras Zalan Szolnoki) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 04:05:49 PDT Subject: Sinister: NUTELLA ...and something else , but mostly N. to be honest Message-ID: <19981019110550.23085.qmail@hotmail.com> >From owner-sinister at majordomo.net Fri Oct 16 12:49:25 1998 >Received: from localhost (daemon at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA27300; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:46:45 +0100 >Received: by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:46:23 +0100 >Received: (from majordomo at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA27247 for sinister-outgoing; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:46:18 +0100 >Received: from sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (root at sciborg.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.62.10]) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA27243 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:46:13 +0100 >Received: from cheml179.uwaterloo.ca (mgillen at cheml179.watstar.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.18.69]) > by sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA29521 > for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:46:04 -0400 (EDT) >Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981016154526.007a1890 at scimail.uwaterloo.ca> >X-Sender: mgillen at scimail.uwaterloo.ca >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) >Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:45:26 -0400 >To: sinister at majordomo.net >From: Girl in the Snow >Subject: Sinister: Misheard Lyrics >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Reply-To: Girl in the Snow >X-List: Sinister Nutella is this really nasty hazelnut and chocolate spread some people put on there bread. It looks really gross. - no it doesn�t it looks lovely! and besides its really jummy !!!!!! and it has this secret healing power (true!!). Just before the mundial I was feeling a bit sad and my tummy wasn�t that good either , and me and a friend went to the best shopping-center in Quito (the el Jardin) and bought some fresh loafs of bread and Nutella ..... the results were amasing Not only did I "bounce" back to form , but brazil din�t win the mundial !! a miracle I tell you!!!! You have to belive (me) !!! Touch the screen!!!!!!! And now run and buy your NUTELLA!!!!!!!!!! NUUUUUUUUUTTTEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!! -any news about the tape-tree??- Ciao everyone!! Szola -------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Mon Oct 19 12:06:32 1998 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 04:06:32 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Alex Higgins called me a c*nt Message-ID: Hello All, Francoise Hardy is indeed worth a listen. A lot of the French singers from the sixties who are growing in popularity these days have a kind of kitsch easy listening appeal, but Francoise Hardy's folky pop songs are just achingly beautiful. My main mishearing is in "She's Losing It", and I still prefer my version which goes "When the first cup of coffee tastes like washing up, She knows she's losing it". Who said Lolitapop Dollhouse? Was that Megan? Any Japanese pop and/or Momus references get my wholehearted approval. Have we stopped talking about cheese now? I never got to mention Y Fenni which is a distinctive Welsh cheese made with ale and mustard seeds. In the interest of furthering smut levels here is the tale of the time when I met Alex Higgins. For those who don't follow snooker, Alex Higgins is one of the finest and most distinguished sportsmen of the last twenty years. Alternatively he is an offensive drunk who often terrorises the populace of south Manchester. Judge for yourselves: Here I am, having just enjoyed a night out with some friends. We have caught the 192 bus back to Levenshulme, and have just stopped off at Farooqs for a bite to eat. There is a short drunk slumped over the counter giving the staff a torrent of abuse. For no apparent reason he turns around, looks at myself and my friends and says "You're all clever c*nts", then turns his attentions back to the staff again. Yes, it's the former snooker world champion himself. Next he hails a taxi by staggering out of Farooqs and into the middle of the road where he stops and sways from side to side. When a taxi does stop he comes back in to collect his food, and asks us if we want to share the taxi with him. We decline his kind offer and he disappears into the night. Next week: I turned down dinner with Bernard Hill Kevan The Bourgeois Slug *********************************** chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickclick.com http://www.chickmail.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From John.Stuart at xxx.com Mon Oct 19 12:11:45 1998 From: John.Stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 04:11:45 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Alex Higgins called me a c*nt Message-ID: <93CA1ADD24AED111B6CF00A0C906763037FC76@EDINBURGH> Kevan Cooke wrote... My main mishearing is in "She's Losing It", and I still prefer my version which goes "When the first cup of coffee tastes like washing up, She knows she's losing it". That IS the correct lyrics, isn't it? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alerche at xxx.net Mon Oct 19 13:31:13 1998 From: alerche at xxx.net (Andre Vieira) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:31:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Mud Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981019133113.006bf77c@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net> Stuart Gardiner wrote: >never mind), PJ wanted more smut on the list, so I'd just like to say that >I spent last night snuggled up in bed with 11 other people. And half of >them were female as well. And I mean snuggled up - at least half of my >body was touching one of the women next to me. Beat that Chris... Stuart, if you're going to get smutty, you can't stop short of going all the way. Just *which* half of your body are you talking about? Andre (long-time advocate of smut). ******************************************************* happy for a day - some belle and sebastian thoughts contact us at: +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Mon Oct 19 13:30:47 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:30:47 Subject: Sinister: French singers Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981019133047.36ff97fe@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Kevan wrote : >A lot of the French singers from the sixties who are growing in popularity >these days have a kind of kitsch easy listening appeal, but Francoise Hardy's >folky pop songs are just achingly beautiful. > As I am supposed to be a frenchy, I'd like to know who are these french singers that you like *so* much (except France Gall and Francoise Hardy). Any answer will be examined carefully. Bises, Philippe PS : no need to say that I am the loveliest french singer, this is crystal clear. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sderrick at xxx.uk Mon Oct 19 13:46:57 1998 From: sderrick at xxx.uk (SHIRLEY DERRICK) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:46:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk in Edinburgh, allegedly In-Reply-To: <36292149.24D9@seahouses.u-net.com> Message-ID: <4DF45D40FCF@glg.ed.ac.uk> Hello all Actually it's in excelent condition and is being sold by a friend who works in Avalanche records, it's part of his own collection. If any one is interested in this please let me know. He asked me to advertise for him on this newsgroup, it will go to the highest bidder. Shirley > Hi kids. > Someone posted on the NME's angst messageboard today that there > is a vinyl Tigermilk for sale in Avalanche in Edinburgh, it's 200 > quid so it's probably in shit condition. > So. Get yrrrrselves down/up to Cockburn St if you're feeling a bit > flushed. > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Mon Oct 19 13:15:36 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:15:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Lotus Eaters Message-ID: <01BDFB62.900FE710.keith@qss.co.uk> Peter, I didn't know the Lotus Eaters extended any further than their 1983 hit, don't know anything about them - however, the bizarre and crazy news today from my corner of the world as regards hits in 1983, is that this girl's just joined our company and she used to be the drummer in the Belle Stars! Weird eh! (There's the Belle and Sebastian link - for the more hawk-eyed amongst you). John, as regards the words to "She's Losing It", yes that's the words as far as I know. Clare, yes as regards these things, I'm no Northern Soul expert really, so I'm probably not the person to do it really, still I can give you a copy of a Divine mix tape I've got, which is "Specially cooked up by Andrew Divine and Hush Puppy for you to recreate the Divine experience in your own front room". I have however thrown caution to the wind as far as this is concerned and recreated the unique Divine experience in my kitchen - in order to understand how they "cooked" up the tape in the first place. A bit of a poser for you: Last night we were in a pub quiz and one of the questions was "Who was Gregory's Girl"? Now I found this pretty difficult - is it Dee Hepburn, or is it Clare Grogan, or indeed, at the end, when his sister goes "Who's going to be Gregory's Girl"? He goes "You are". Which puts a whole new light on the question. Cheers, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SPRFNK at xxx.com Mon Oct 19 13:43:10 1998 From: SPRFNK at xxx.com (SPRFNK at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 08:43:10 EDT Subject: Sinister: I Like Edie Sedgwick's Earrings. Message-ID: <78c67ee3.362b33de@aol.com> just to let you know about that place SHOUT---it is awesome there---i was actually going to go last night---but i was too tired--i am going next week though--and it is only called shout on sundays---it is really club thirteen just in case you didnt know---ok well that is all from me --kristin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From coool_air at xxx.com Mon Oct 19 13:53:02 1998 From: coool_air at xxx.com (Claire Timmins) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 05:53:02 PDT Subject: Sinister: Lotus Eaters Message-ID: <19981019125303.212.qmail@hotmail.com> I would like to take this opportunity to thank PeeJay and Keef for their rapid replies to my selfish demands. Peter I would love to recreate the tuneful sounds of mother natures most annoying little son, the bee, inside my own little box room. Therefore I will send a tape onto you, if I may be blessed with the details of your exact location Keith said.. I'm no Northern Soul expert really, Aw. so modest. Thank you for your gorgeous honesty, but I have great faith in your musical taste and would also love a copy of the Divine sounds from Keith's kitchen. I need some help here. I work in biggish bar in Dublin and we are in dire need of a musical upheaval. I am looking for suggestions of CDs that may work(just fit in not necessarly taking orders at the bar) there. The most (overly) played CDs are Morcheeba, Air, Massive Attack (Blue Lines), Nuyorican Soul, Marvin Gaye, Ella, Frank, Nat, King Tubby, etc. There are so many CDs out there but I have seem to have drawn a blank on this one. My head is too full of the importance of aspiration noise in the perception of breathiness, and the continual complaning of the eejit sitting next to me. lots of love, Claire ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jgockley at xxx.edu Mon Oct 19 14:07:31 1998 From: jgockley at xxx.edu (Jessica Gockley) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:07:31 -0400 Subject: Sinister: philadelphia concert Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981019090731.006a0da8@beacon.eastern.edu> I posted this on the Jeepster message board site, but as the show is now four days away and i still don't know how i'm getting there, i thought i'd bother all you sinisterians with a local request. "I'm wondering if any sinisterians will be coming in to the Philly show from the western suburbs. I live in St Davids (just past Villanova on the main line) and i'm still not quite sure how i'm getting to the show. The pre-show party would probably be lots of fun, too... I have a friend with whom i *might* be able to get a ride to the show, but if anyone happens to be headed through my area and wouldn't mind picking up a lonely shy little sinisterian, i'd really really appreciate it. Love, Jess Foxinasnow" Thanks, cuties. Jess "You're always looking for a sign, but boy you blow it every time. You hear a voice begin to speak; you ignore it and go softly to sleep" - Belle & Sebastian Jessica Gockley | Box 326 Eastern College | 1300 Eagle Road | St Davids, PA 19087 | 610-225-5403 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From WarranderJ at xxx.uk Mon Oct 19 14:21:31 1998 From: WarranderJ at xxx.uk (Warrander John - FML) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:21:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: French singers Message-ID: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B0036CE32@gateway.finnigan.co.uk> Afternoon All, Someone who's supposed to be a frenchy wrote: >As I am supposed to be a frenchy, I'd like to know who are these french >singers that you like *so* much (except France Gall and Francoise Hardy). >Any answer will be examined carefully. Someone made me a tape with over 40 French (presumably) one-hit wonders from the 60s. Every song is great and I was going to rattle off the list of artists here. Just to show how knowledgeable and super cool and into obscure pop I am. But erm, that would be pathetic, so I won't. Maybe some nice French people on the list could recommend some cool 60s French pop for us though. That may be nice. Peter Miller wanted more smut. Well I went shopping with McTaggart for pyjamas at the weekend. It was more of a smut/sad old gits crossover scenario. But I did feel kind of 'dirty' afterwards. We also make a rather unnecessary detour through the ladies underwear section. Tag made some hilarious jokes about how if he was invisible he could sneak into the changing rooms and get up to all sorts of naughty mischief. I laughed and laughed he was so funny. He even said "jugs". Several times! Jugs. And Elisapet. Miller also requested "ink polaroids...of...McRagtag's triumphant re-entry unto DJ Land" Sadly nobody from Sinister turned up. Or if they did, they kept themselves to themselves. Even after young Tag waved his legs in the air from the stage so all and sundry could get a good look at his small feet. It was a roaring success however, so no doubt the little fella himself will proudly let you all know how wonderful he was in the not too distant. As a taster though, I can reveal that cleavage did figure prominently during the evening. Keith Watson mentioned "Gregory's Girl". Which is always a good thing to do. "Tek et awwfff." And Brummy-Scot Robert Malcom McTaggart with real ginger hair and everything suggested that The Duke may have been a goth!?? Well, I can throw a wee bit more light on this. Browsing through the grown-up pictures on the website at the weekend, a friend of mine, who used to live in London, did mention that she kind of maybe recognised The Duke as a friend of a friend who went to a Sister's concert at the Royal Albert Hall in 1988 or something. This wasn't enough to convince me though so I did try and corroborate the story by checking out "Young And Foolish" in Waterstones. Who knows, perhaps it should have really been called "Young and Stupid"? Unfortunately the woman in Waterstones had never heard of an author called the Duke. She hadn't heard of one called the Count either as it happens. And then they threw me out for turning tables around. Incidentally, you can't do that in the M&S in Manchester. They have big bouncers in beige uniforms who reward you with a kick in the teeth if you mess with the store displays. Anyway, I'm on the trail now. Sleuthingly Yours, John PS Can anyone tell me how to contact that Stlucy person. Gorgeous birds like her always go for losers like me. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cp83985 at xxx.edu Mon Oct 19 14:24:53 1998 From: cp83985 at xxx.edu (Carl Polgar Jr) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:24:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: belle & sebastian curse? Message-ID: hello to all. i got a speeding ticket the other day and, while being served with my citation, i came upon this realization: in my years of driving, i have gotten two speeding tickets (including this latest one) and have been involved in one traffic accident. in all these cases, i was listening to a belle and sebastian song at the time. the first speeding ticket and the accident both occurred while listening to "mayfly". this latest ticket occurred while listening to "you're just a baby". and on this occasion, i couldn't help but continue to sing along whenever the cop was not asking me a question because i did not want to miss the part at the end of the song where stuart goes, "so what's theeeeeeeeeeeee reason for all . . . " because it's my absolute favorite moment in that album and to miss singing along to that part would make me sad. of course, i could always rewind it, but it's just not the same. anyway, the cop was actually very nice -- he reduced what would have been a rather hefty charge ($140) by half. if i would have had an extra copy of tigermilk with me, i would have given it to him. would i be banished from the list if i admitted that i don't like cheese very much? bye. carl. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Mon Oct 19 14:35:56 1998 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 06:35:56 PDT Subject: Sinister: my anaconda don't want nuns unless they got buns hon Message-ID: <19981019133557.16273.qmail@hotmail.com> Guh? bah? Huh? Beth?! You have to be a man.... fat girls have had the whole of history to be beautiful and now good old anorexics get to be pretty, cool, but eating disorders are bad aren't they....gurr? is this really how people think? I mean, beep?!! I am just making noises!! It's not bloody really nice! Can I back up Leanne by saying it's fecking scary? A social trend starts with women being pressurised by society to be tiny little girls with no sexual characteristics, to be innocent and wee when at the same time they are PIOW! mothers! PIOW! liberated!! PIOW!! housewifes!! PIOW! career women! PIOW! beautiful! PIOW PIOW PIOW Beeep beeeeeeeeeeep I suppose if I told you that I personally favor fertile, voluptuous women with prominent bellies you'd criticize me for promoting atherosclerosis, ovarian cancer, ill-fitting-swingset-seat-bruises, and Raynaud's syndrome, and maybe also you'd reason that I want my women fat so that I can always outrun them and hence maintain my upper hand as a patriarch (or wait, better yet, be able to fuck and run ha ha ha). Or maybe I just have my savings tied up in elastic and frozen foods. The only people who should be skinny as beanpoles are those with the metabolism of a ferret, o.k.? Everyone should eat and be merry as far as I'm concerned. How should I feel about never having been in fashion? I don't feel anything. I've given up a long time ago, but I'd not recommend that to anyone else. I bought an Associates record and I personally think it really, really sucks.... I mean the vocals just drive me batty. Lucky I bought the Cedell Davis album the same day. I can't believe that that person also had the ears to pick up on Murdoch's mega-ness. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Mon Oct 19 14:36:28 1998 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 06:36:28 PDT Subject: Sinister: my anaconda don't want nuns unless they got buns hon Message-ID: <19981019133628.18719.qmail@hotmail.com> Guh? bah? Huh? Beth?! You have to be a man.... fat girls have had the whole of history to be beautiful and now good old anorexics get to be pretty, cool, but eating disorders are bad aren't they....gurr? is this really how people think? I mean, beep?!! I am just making noises!! It's not bloody really nice! Can I back up Leanne by saying it's fecking scary? A social trend starts with women being pressurised by society to be tiny little girls with no sexual characteristics, to be innocent and wee when at the same time they are PIOW! mothers! PIOW! liberated!! PIOW!! housewifes!! PIOW! career women! PIOW! beautiful! PIOW PIOW PIOW Beeep beeeeeeeeeeep I suppose if I told you that I personally favor fertile, voluptuous women with prominent bellies you'd criticize me for promoting atherosclerosis, ovarian cancer, ill-fitting-swingset-seat-bruises, and Raynaud's syndrome, and maybe also you'd reason that I want my women fat so that I can always outrun them and hence maintain my upper hand as a patriarch (or wait, better yet, be able to fuck and run ha ha ha). Or maybe I just have my savings tied up in elastic and frozen foods. The only people who should be skinny as beanpoles are those with the metabolism of a ferret, o.k.? Everyone should eat and be merry as far as I'm concerned. How should I feel about never having been in fashion? I don't feel anything. I've given up a long time ago, but I'd not recommend that to anyone else. I bought an Associates record and I personally think it really, really sucks.... I mean the vocals just drive me batty. Lucky I bought the Cedell Davis album the same day. I can't believe that that person also had the ears to pick up on Murdoch's mega-ness. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Mon Oct 19 14:36:42 1998 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 06:36:42 PDT Subject: Sinister: my anaconda don't want nuns unless they got buns hon Message-ID: <19981019133642.23819.qmail@hotmail.com> Guh? bah? Huh? Beth?! You have to be a man.... fat girls have had the whole of history to be beautiful and now good old anorexics get to be pretty, cool, but eating disorders are bad aren't they....gurr? is this really how people think? I mean, beep?!! I am just making noises!! It's not bloody really nice! Can I back up Leanne by saying it's fecking scary? A social trend starts with women being pressurised by society to be tiny little girls with no sexual characteristics, to be innocent and wee when at the same time they are PIOW! mothers! PIOW! liberated!! PIOW!! housewifes!! PIOW! career women! PIOW! beautiful! PIOW PIOW PIOW Beeep beeeeeeeeeeep I suppose if I told you that I personally favor fertile, voluptuous women with prominent bellies you'd criticize me for promoting atherosclerosis, ovarian cancer, ill-fitting-swingset-seat-bruises, and Raynaud's syndrome, and maybe also you'd reason that I want my women fat so that I can always outrun them and hence maintain my upper hand as a patriarch (or wait, better yet, be able to fuck and run ha ha ha). Or maybe I just have my savings tied up in elastic and frozen foods. The only people who should be skinny as beanpoles are those with the metabolism of a ferret, o.k.? Everyone should eat and be merry as far as I'm concerned. How should I feel about never having been in fashion? I don't feel anything. I've given up a long time ago, but I'd not recommend that to anyone else. I bought an Associates record and I personally think it really, really sucks.... I mean the vocals just drive me batty. Lucky I bought the Cedell Davis album the same day. I can't believe that that person also had the ears to pick up on Murdoch's mega-ness. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From karlek0 at xxx.com Mon Oct 19 14:40:05 1998 From: karlek0 at xxx.com (Matt Hayes) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 06:40:05 PDT Subject: Sinister: I Could Be Dreaming Too Message-ID: <19981019134005.9056.qmail@hotmail.com> >Sorry for the incomplete post. It was meant to ask where I could >find the >lyrics to the spoken word bit at the end of "I Could Be Dreaming"... >something about His Majesty George the 3rd and a Gigantic Word In the >Dictionary? Thanks. i don't know about the lyrics but try turning the balance on your stereo all the way to the right.......or maybe the left. i can't remember which but it makes it a bit easier. love, matthew. lord anthony's a pretty nice bloke but he doesn't have a lot to say... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Mon Oct 19 14:50:40 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:50:40 +0100 () Subject: Sinister: Mud In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19981019133113.006bf77c@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net> Message-ID: smut: ooh, i really don't know where to start. i was nearly involved in an orgy last week but it only reached the kissing stage in the end because several of the participants began to feel the effects of the vodka we'd all been necking and had to depart to fall down the stairs/vomit copiusly. not very sexy. :) i don't really think liverpool is hell by the way. (though i have a photo of me next to the sculpture of eleanor rigby with an expression on my face that suggests otherwise. maybe my parents were just being embarassing or something though.) i bought tigermilk in a dodgy cd sale today. sorry. luv archelita xxx ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jgockley at xxx.edu Mon Oct 19 14:57:27 1998 From: jgockley at xxx.edu (Jessica Gockley) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:57:27 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I Could Be Dreaming Too In-Reply-To: <19981019134005.9056.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981019095727.006a3264@beacon.eastern.edu> Someone asked about the spoken bit at the end of "I Could Be Dreaming." I posted the entire excerpt they quote about a month ago, but as it was pretty big i'll just tell you to check the archives! or if you want to look it up for yourself, the bit they're quoting is from the middle of "Rip Van Winkle" by Washington Irving. Love, Jess. "You're always looking for a sign, but boy you blow it every time. You hear a voice begin to speak; you ignore it and go softly to sleep" - Belle & Sebastian Jessica Gockley | Box 326 Eastern College | 1300 Eagle Road | St Davids, PA 19087 | 610-225-5403 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From noelani30 at xxx.com Mon Oct 19 15:48:18 1998 From: noelani30 at xxx.com (Jessica Noelani Wright) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 07:48:18 PDT Subject: Sinister: I Like Edie Sedgwick's Earrings. Message-ID: <19981019144818.3254.qmail@hotmail.com> Carrick wrote: I got dragged >to New York City yesterday, to go to the Whitney Museum to see some >exhibit of some artist who I can't remember but was very good. Very big >bold paintings. Lots of emotion. > MARK ROTHKO? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 70204923 at xxx.ca Mon Oct 19 17:08:16 1998 From: 70204923 at xxx.ca (Girl In The Snow) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:08:16 EST Subject: Sinister: misheard lyrics - mach IV Message-ID: <123FA8B1B25@cs5.conestogac.on.ca> I mistakenly mistaked "whiskey so i" for whiskey sour...and this eccentric guy ( a friend of a friend) who knows nuting (nutella) about B&S proved me wrong on our way to the elliott smith concert last week... shame shame all apologies horso, and "sebastian" i love you guyz... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 70204923 at xxx.ca Mon Oct 19 17:40:20 1998 From: 70204923 at xxx.ca (Sebastian) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:40:20 EST Subject: Sinister: god bless you... Message-ID: <12483007CAE@cs5.conestogac.on.ca> DOUG-IE DOUG-IE!!!!! you are the flute in my flake... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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Kevan The Fat Slug *********************************** chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickclick.com http://www.chickmail.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From A.Ward at xxx.uk Mon Oct 19 17:45:49 1998 From: A.Ward at xxx.uk (Anne Ward) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:45:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Sinister soul weekender Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981019174549.0097aa00@scooter.gcal.ac.uk> Hello folks As there's been so much talk about MC Tag's triumphant return to the decks I though I'd add my tuppenceworth. John said that there were no Sinisterines there to witness the evening's twinkly little star perform, but that's not true, as I was there. Just because I never say anything, it doesn't mean I'm not listening. Anyway, it was a great night with lots of girl groups and northern soul. Generally the kind of thing you want to shake your booty too. The people were er, pretty diverse and fashion-wise it became clear that this season's look pour homme is a light-up t-shirt, a dog collar and some jackboots. For the laydeez it's looking like a very hacket version of Adrienne Posta in Up the Junction (with the 90s twist of getting pissed and doing the splits on the dancefloor.) There was a nice school disco feel to the evening as every time people started dancing the record jumped, especially when Tag played that Jane Fonda record to try and piss off the indie massive. This didn't seem to work, although one of his ardent fans did suggest that there could have been "a bit more Roses, mate". Anyway, everything you have heard is true. Saturday afternoon was spend on a wonderful shopping blitz where Tag set out to buy a "soul shirt", a pair of PJs and the world's dinkiest pair of shoes. You'll be sorry to hear that he didn't settle for the Winceyette pyjamas (Are they the ones you get sparks off? Anyone?) and got something tasteful in brushed cotton instead. I'm sure he'll let everyone have a feel. Well, one of you, anyway. You'll be glad to know that we were thinking about you lot anyway and the whole weekend was a bit of a Sinister trail of fame what with the search for the Duke's book (Duke, have you told anyone your real name so they can find it?), a visit to Cafe Pop which has been named Cafe Prog in Keith's honour and em, JJs house, which we passed about 10 times, everytime Tag saying "JJ's house". Of course, there was also the chance to finally meet that nice John Warrender and the lovely Emma IN THE FLESH. Meester Miller, you were also mentioned. This was when the Smile Dj who was not Tag played a song about going down the jobcentre and I said it was the worst song I'd ever heard. It was Denim and Tag says you like them. I know you live in Spain where they probably don't have pop music, but surely that's no excuse as this really, really sucked. Anyway, the whole thing weekend was as much fun as a barrel of monkeys and if any of you get the chance to catch MC Tag on his "Put 'em on the glass" tour you won't be disappointed. Just go and ask him for "something you can dance to", like Jamiroquai perhaps and he'll be only too happy to oblige. May the faith be with you. Anne xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Mon Oct 19 17:46:05 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:46:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: She's Losing It References: Message-ID: <362B6CCD.ABA7C9E8@jeepster.co.uk> Kevan Cooke wrote: > > Have I inadvertently opened a can of my fellow invertibrates? > Apparently my mishearing is not only a common one, but is widely held > to be the correct lyric. > > Just to recap I originally thought that the lyrics to She's Losing It went: > "the first cup of coffee TASTES LIKE washing up" > > But I now believe that the actual lyric is: > "the first cup of coffee CLEARS the washing up" > > I prefer the misheard version, so if anyone can prove me wrong please do. ok, please take a short trip to http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/discography/EHRLP5.htm#losing where you will find the lyrics as on the album sleeve live on the web and awaiting your attention. to quote; "And in the first moment of her waking up She knows she's losing it, yeah she's losing it When the first cup of coffee tastes like washing up She knows she's losing it, yeah she's losing Yeah she's losing it" but, i think what you made the original lyrics in the end qualifies as a cool mis-hearing :) david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rewb2 at xxx.uk Mon Oct 19 17:56:19 1998 From: rewb2 at xxx.uk (rob b) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:56:19 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: lemonade baby In-Reply-To: <19981019144818.3254.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: hey folks nice to meet people at the salako gig on thursday. hello to you all! it was a wonderful gig, they R!O!C!K!E!D and R!U!L!E!D by all account. and they played in a disused forge, which i thought was nice. someone (jessica?) mentioned mark rothko. he's fantastic, i have a print of his (earth and green) on my bedroom wall, and it's gorgeous, deep browns and greens in blocks. that's a really shite description, so you'll have to take my word for it :) right, well i have to go and decide whether colour exists now, so g'bye. rob xx p.s. couldn't find the duke's book, but i saw the nick drake biography out in paperback, for 7.99 rather than the 20 quid-odd i paid for it in hardback. arse. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- + / \ St Theresa's calling her | O | The church up on the hill _______| _ | Is looking lovely / / /\ | __| \/. But it doesn't interest /_/\_//_/||##| ;\|/' The only thing she wants to know __|_||_|||_||##|_____|_ Is how and why and when and where to go If you're feeling sinister... Belle and Sebastian ------------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 0291942a01 at xxx.es Mon Oct 19 17:53:30 1998 From: 0291942a01 at xxx.es (Jordi Trenzano Vilar) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:53:30 +-100 Subject: Sinister: some help, please... Message-ID: <01BDFB9E.D377F2E0@Abonado-195-53-36-239.cat.es> Dear list: I know my english is quite good, but not enough for some things, so, I want to ask you if anyone can send me the transcription for the "spoken songs", "A Century of Elvis" and "Spaceboy dream#3", because (a sort of what I have done with the whole B&S?s songs) I want to translate them into spanish. Cheers. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.E.Hughes at xxx.uk Mon Oct 19 20:07:19 1998 From: C.E.Hughes at xxx.uk (Hughes C.E) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:07:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Hello Peeps Message-ID: Hello everyone. I'm a new girl. Please be nice to me. There. That's better. I'm not quite so nervous now...... Someone asked about other bands having copies of Tigermilk. Weelllll.... If we can broaden the matter to just *celebrities*, then I can mention Stewart Lee. A friend and I (Elizabeth Daplyn, if you can remember her {I'm sure you can!}) went to see Lee & Herring on tour in April and, afterwards, Liz gave Stewart a copy of the album. Sweetheart that he is, he was eternally grateful, and gave her a huge old snog. Bless. By the way, to the person (Todd?) who was asking after her, she's tootling about in Oxford at the moment, being a fresher. I'm sure she'll be getting withdrawal symptoms and will be back soon. Ta Ta, Charlotte ========== 'ello Jean Paul 'ello Sir ============= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Oct 19 17:58:28 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:58:28 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Lotus Eaters Message-ID: <01bdfb81$b1ed16e0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Keith wrote: >Peter, I didn't know the Lotus Eaters extended any further than their 1983 >hit, don't know anything about them - however, the bizarre and crazy news >today from my corner of the world as regards hits in 1983, is that this >girl's just joined our company and she used to be the drummer in the Belle >Stars! Weird eh! (There's the Belle and Sebastian link - for the more >hawk-eyed amongst you). Keith, do you keep your Guiness Book of Hit Singles edited by Paul Gambaccini at work, or have you got a special pop brain? The Lotus Eaters tasted top 20 success with their debut single, The First Picture of You, The First Picture of Summer, Seeing The Flowers Scream Their Joy, but then had a string of flops, followed by an album called No Sense of Sin. Then....nothing. Until now. I'm sure I had that album from the library, at the time I was dead mad keen on anything from Liverpool and you know how sensitive I am. I liked that China Crisis song too, where they're all looking dreamy in a haystack on the video, and some other group who had a song called New Dreams For Old, which must have been really shit. Next to the article about The Lotus Eaters, there's one about We've Got a Fuzzbox and We're Gonna Use It, who remind me a bit of a certain someone on the list, but I'm not telling you who in case I get called a stale bucket of wee. One of them witnessed a murder and had to get the hell out of Birmingham!!! As for The Belle Stars, they were surely one of the great bands of the eighties, I loved their songs "Three Minute Hero" and "Too Much Pressure", but it was a terrible shame when Neneh Cherry left. Why don't you get your new pal to write a "Where Am I Now?" article and send it into the list? I forgot to point out that Q Magazine features a picture of a Waronker on page 100. Thank you to whoever sent in that photo of Eval Keneval playing rugby. Claire, don't send me a tape, I've got some already. I recommend The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill for your pub. It's an urban hang suite, I think. At any rate, it won't get you the sack and it's dead long. I could down about twelve pints while it's on, no problem. I look forward to the clash of the titans, DJ PJ taking on DJ Divine in the Northern Soul stakes. Is the Symington Special seamlessly mixed? I bloody well hope not, or I've got no chance. Thanks to everyone for the smut, keep it coming! DJ PJ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Mon Oct 19 20:53:01 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:53:01 GMT Subject: Sinister: It's my happening baby and it freaks me out Message-ID: <362d83e9.1535887@post.demon.co.uk> Dear all, Firstly thank you Anne for your lovely words, you're welcome any time. Claire unwisely said >I would love a copy of the Divine sounds from Keith's kitchen. Better the divine sounds from Keith's bathroom, I suppose. Keith, have you been to Finland lately? There was an article in Little Fluffy Star's favourite magazine The Face concerning the World Air Guitar championships. I'm sure I spotted Keith himself, his face contorted as if trying to shift a particularly stubborn poo. In fact the Artist formerly known as K!E!E!F! has been cropping up all over the place lately, at Emma and the Emmette's house the other day pride of place at the front of the record collection was occupied by a record by yes...you've guessed it...Keith. Kevan said: >Francoise Hardy is indeed worth a listen. Worth a listen???? Talk about faint praise. She should be mandatory listening. Small children should be thrashed until they submit to the cleansing power of Francoise. Kevan also mentions... >an offensive drunk who often terrorises the populace of south Manchester. ...which brings me neatly to John Warrender's latest demented ramblings: >Someone made me a tape with over 40 French (presumably) one-hit >wonders from the 60s. Every song is great and I was going to rattle >off the list of artists here. Just to show how knowledgeable and super >cool and into obscure pop I am. But erm, that would be pathetic, so I >won't. Warrender, you loser. The only thing stopping from you from wanton namedropping was the fact that I didn't give you a tracklisting. >Well I went shopping with McTaggart for pyjamas at the weekend. >It was more of a smut/sad old gits crossover scenario. But I did feel >kind of 'dirty' afterwards. We also make a rather unnecessary detour >through the ladies underwear section. John went on to lie through his teeth even more, neglecting to inform us that it was his idea to go to the ladies underwear section, so he could buy a bra and pantie set, claiming it would help him to "git me some indiepop kisser". Luckily we managed to talk him out of the sort of flagrant cross-dressing not seen since Count Fitchett's last Rocky Horror Show party. Corpora Arenacea said >my anaconda don't want nuns unless they got buns hon > >Beeep >beeeeeeeeeeep > >atherosclerosis, ovarian cancer, ill-fitting-swingset-seat-bruises, and >Raynaud's syndrome In case we didn't get it, he then said it a couple more times. I was both entertained and educated by Corpora's fascinating views on body politics, and am more than happy to believe he is just as maverick and as he would obviously like us to think he is. Five days, that's all. Love Tag xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Mon Oct 19 21:01:42 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:01:42 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Mud In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19981019133113.006bf77c@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, Andre Vieira wrote: > > Stuart Gardiner wrote: > >never mind), PJ wanted more smut on the list, so I'd just like to say that > >I spent last night snuggled up in bed with 11 other people. And half of > >them were female as well. And I mean snuggled up - at least half of my > >body was touching one of the women next to me. Beat that Chris... > > Stuart, if you're going to get smutty, you can't stop short of going all > the way. Just *which* half of your body are you talking about? The front and the back actually, sort of like a sandwich where the filling is bursting out of both ends. The problem was that there was nowhere to put your arms without being too uncomfortable except to drape at least one over the lass lying in front of me... Hey shame... Anyway, I was as always perfectly innocent in all this. As anyone who has met me will tell you, I'm not a dirty git with a filthy sense of humour at all. No really. And anyway, I made a rule that no men in the group were allowed to get excited about sleeping with so many women, because there wasn't room ;-) Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gaviston at xxx.com Mon Oct 19 22:45:52 1998 From: gaviston at xxx.com (Todd Beatty) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:45:52 PDT Subject: Sinister: I Like Edie Sedgwick's Earrings. Message-ID: <19981019214553.22671.qmail@hotmail.com> what a coincidence! the other day i was on the net, and happened across a photograph of edie sedgwick and andy warhol, posing atop the empire state building. andy was looking lovely as usual, as for edie though, i couldn't quite make out her earrings, but i didn't like what she was wearing, and she could've stood to put on some weight; (not as voluptuous as i would have liked) - she definitely didn't have the child bearing hips that i find so damn attractive in a woman. < And Edie was wearing these really big earrings. They were wonderful. But I seem to remember that Edie was a bit of a mess in her later years.> ..upon squandering the last of her money she was reduced to fast food, tv dinners and the horrifying fact that, because of this, she'd be gaining 20 pounds a month for the rest of her life. she then turned to the drink. haha, this made me laugh so hard that the steaming hot nantucket blend coffee i was sipping nearly came out of my nose!!! last friday i was driving through east village in ny listening to b&s(&m), when, to my surprise, someone on the street shouted ,"hey. arab strap!" anyone on the list? i couldn't see their face, couldn't even make out the feller who was a hollering. i was hoping it was a listee, but perhaps it was just someone shouting aloud about a tool of immense pleasure. anyway. < But just in case I'll bring a few extra Ben Shermans, if anybody needs help getting in the door.> ...if you're short of cash, is that what you meant carrick? then i'll bring some vaseline, in case anyone's from new jersey, and needs help getting through the door. charlotte sometimes wrote: in your dreams charlotte, prepare to be horribly corrupted. not i , but you can still send me the girl. rachel penned: rachel, you'd actually let a little thing like falling down the stairs and vomiting deter you from an orgy? < I'll be the rather tall boy with red hair. And I'll probably be smiling.> ...and i'll be the short, fat one wearing a sleazy dress and smeared lipstick...with biker boots, meowing like a silly little pussy cat. if all the guys will be longing after isobel, perhaps i should switch teams and make a play for stuart m. it's the only way i'll have a chance. finally, i came across these lyrics the other day, and, in what's probably my final post i'd like to share them with the list and dedicate them to mr. funky seb. "you dun stomped on my heart, you dun mashed that sucker flat. you dun sorta stomped on my aorta." from melodie suggs "you dun stomped on my heart" todd p.s. where for art thou mark c.? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TWidmer at xxx.com Mon Oct 19 23:23:23 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:23:23 -0700 Subject: Sinister: anacondas and buns Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF032D5D16@amerwksnt01.xil.com> <> It's true you know, skinny people deal with prejudice too!! (groan groan yeah it must be soooo hard being the socially acceptable ideal) but it's true! Case in point, my friend Erin, who's average height, maybe 5'6 or so and eats healthily and happily, but struggles to keep her weight above 100 lbs. Her boyfriend took her to this ultra posh restaurant for her birthday, and while chowing down the suitably extravagant meal she noticed a lady sitting at the next table lean over to her companion and mutter disdainfully, "look at her...*sigh* what a waste! you know she's just going to throw it all up later on..." well! imagine! Erin also fends off unfair smack-addict accusations... Me, I'm not even especially thin and my grandma says, "now tara, I want you to know - god loves you, god cares about you, but God wants you to GAIN some WEIGHT!! Thin is NOT beautiful! it's unhealthy and disgusting, don't look at those magazine ads!" cheers, gran. And despite the flak (s)he gets, Corporus antichristus' posts make me laugh in the same demented way that erstwhile listee brad's did... Hope all you people going to the B&S shows this week have fun...but... I'm just saying that to sound nice. because the truth of the matter is i'm completely, hideously jealous that they are playing your town and not mine..*sniff* it's not fair, cos california is such a nice place... we're waiting...you'll have fun though... ta, chiquitita widmer +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LukeOwens at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 00:26:32 1998 From: LukeOwens at xxx.com (LukeOwens at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:26:32 EDT Subject: Sinister: athens meet up? Message-ID: so anyone planning a meet up before the show in athens. ill be driving up from jacksonville, fl.....im staying with my sis in atlanta luke http://welcome.to/smallworld +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From BOYBOUTOWN at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 00:32:44 1998 From: BOYBOUTOWN at xxx.com (BOYBOUTOWN at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:32:44 EDT Subject: Sinister: dig it. Message-ID: <84a7a197.362bcc1c@aol.com> Ready, Set, Who!!!!....I mean Go! Thats Re at dy Ste at dy Go!. ermm.right. Re at dy Ste at dy Edd!e. (neo-mod) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starrrbuck at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 03:41:31 1998 From: starrrbuck at xxx.com (wingless angel) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:41:31 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Velvet toilet Tissue, so soft on yer arse.... Message-ID: <362BF85B.1AE1FED@geocities.com> >maybe the way some men >fetishize thin women has something to do with wanting a frail, >child-like >creature, easy to dominate and totally non-threatening. I don't know. i'm not sure how many men feel this way, but i know that my boyfriend does not like stick thin women. he likes girls to have a bit of a figure, because he says it's 'rubenesque'. hmmm. but yeah, i can see how men would want to have a frail girl to control. i know a few guys like that. urgh. i kinda feel the same way, i don't like really thin guys. ok so my boyfriend is a little overweight, i don't care because he is wonderfully cuddly that way. and more comfy to rest my head on his tummy. hehehe. i can't believe how weight is still such a prejudice in today's society. my best friend seems to think that being size 16 means she is horribly overweight. sigh. i WISH everyone could feel happy about who they are. fiona -- if you want me look me up, i don't exist in usual places - belle & sebastian the desk for dana fund: http://dscully.cjb.net irc: #dana_desk on dalnet x-index: http://xindex.cjb.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From astridart at xxx.net Mon Oct 19 23:48:03 1998 From: astridart at xxx.net (allison) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:48:03 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Boston Message-ID: <01bdfbb2$878913a0$9e3ef9ce@ajb97.hampshire.edu> >At 14:59 -0400 10/18/98, aaron tieger wrote: >[Does anybody know who is on the bill for the Boston >[show this Wednesday? Also what time it is? I could >[just call and find out, sure, but I'm sitting on the >[internet right now and thought I'd ask (anything to >[put off studying for the GRE's). >[ >(snip) >[ >[Thanks. >[ >[aaron >[ > > >apparently the doors open at 8pm. i have no *clue* who's opening. > >pardon the short post. > >-kerry >"how do they get deer to cross at that yellow sign?" > -some guy i hope containe (versus/pacific ocean) is still opening...in only 48 more hours... allison ps...hey kerry ;) how's camp hamp this semester??? "The beginning of wisdom is in the discovery that there exist contradictions of permanent tension with which it is necessary to live and that it is above all not necessary to seek to resolve." -Andre Gorz +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cbrennan at xxx.us Tue Oct 20 03:59:05 1998 From: cbrennan at xxx.us (cinister) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:59:05 -0400 Subject: Sinister: extra boston tickets? Message-ID: so it turns out my boyfriend's mommy isn't all-powerful... i have another friend who is dying to go to the boston show and managed to keep his burning desire to himself till last nite, poor fellow. anyhoo, if anyone can help me out, reply to this address or my usual one, bluvelour at aol.com. thanks for your help or thanks for even reading this if you are!... xo, cindy. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carrick44 at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 04:42:42 1998 From: carrick44 at xxx.com (Carrick C Blair) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 23:42:42 EDT Subject: Sinister: Roger Daltrey hair References: Message-ID: <19981019.215946.8079.5.carrick44@juno.com> Hello to all.... Wow, two days in a row. Tonight I would first like to make it clear that I in no way was I trying to insult mods, neo or otherwise in my post last night. Just pretentious ones. And as steady eddy pointed out... >Thats Re at dy Ste at dy Go!. > > > > > >ermm.right. I get things all mixed up, sometimes. There are days I would like to be a mod, but unfortunately I am cursed/blessed with the Roger Daltrey hair problem. Rather curly and bushy. And I'm not about to iron it! This hair texture is much better suited to being a folkie. Which leads us to this comment.... >Was Eric Anderson in the movie you mentioned as well? I know he was >in something called "Space" with her. No, this movie, film, rather, no, I wouldn't even call it that. Its just Edie X 4. You see an arm reach in and fiddle with the TV behind her from time to time. And at another point there's this guy in a white t-shirt hanging out behind her. Funny you should mention Eric Anderson. Just went to go see him play a couple of weeks ago. Went with my papa who had seen him in Boston back in '65. Still looking pretty good. Looked rather lonely though. Performed all by himself. Lives in Norway? huh? He did sing a lot of songs about Europe, so I guess that makes sense. Eric Anderson, Stormbringer, the list is growing... Any one else got some favorite folk singers, besides the usual Drakes, Dylans, and Donavans? and Jessica asked: >MARK ROTHKO? Yes, thats the guy. Two floors of his paintings. I had to completely reconfigure my minds eye to understand these paintings after looking at Edie Sedgwick for a half an hour. But it clicked in finally. I liked them almost as much as Edie's earrings. They reminded me of long flat horizons, sunsets, and the endless variety and beauty contained within them. I'm pretty sure thats not what the artist intended. In cased you missed it last time, my B&S mishearing was, in Seeing Other People... "I hand over my mouth" instead of "A hand over my mouth" I heard it that way for months. Puts a little twist to it, doesn't it? Love Carrick And does anybody want to write me privately to give me directions to the Boston show (from the Mass Pike)? Thanks. _________________ ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From komis at xxx.edu Tue Oct 20 04:47:22 1998 From: komis at xxx.edu (Dmitry Komis) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:47:22 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Andy's stars Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19981019224722.007d4d20@students.uiuc.edu> yes Edie Sedgewick is beautiful, but Candy Darling is spectacular! dmitry -----is anyone on the list into Tom Waits? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aadam at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 05:41:05 1998 From: aadam at xxx.com (AjAaDcAoMbs) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 23:41:05 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Re: 'Ello peeps! References: <199810191906.UAA18120@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <362C1459.5DB5@interaccess.com> Everybodies favorite new listie, Charlotte claimed: > Hello everyone. I'm a new girl. Please be nice to me. No! HA! Booga booga booga! > > > Someone asked about other bands having copies of Tigermilk. Weelllll.... Weellll...when I hear the word "copies" I think originals, not dubs. Maybe that's just me. > If > we can broaden the matter to just *celebrities*, then I can mention Stewart > Lee. A friend and I (Elizabeth Daplyn, if you can remember her {I'm sure you > can!}) went to see Lee & Herring on tour in April and, afterwards, Liz gave > Stewart a copy of the album. Sweetheart that he is, he was eternally > grateful, and gave her a huge old snog. Bless. Hmmmmmm...someone's gonna get a talkin' to. ;) > > By the way, to the person (Todd?) who was asking after her, she's tootling > about in Oxford at the moment, being a fresher. I'm sure she'll be getting > withdrawal symptoms and will be back soon. She's having a wonerful time and is too busy to bother with the computer as much as she should. Would you be homesick if you were drawing nudes on the first day? Me neither. AJ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Tue Oct 20 07:01:31 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 02:01:31 -0400 Subject: Sinister: My tape tree tape/all day B&S/Field Mice Message-ID: <362C273B.34BA8914@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Hello all you people, Who has my tape tree tape? No one has written me to say they loved it! Which obviously means that you all loved it, but are too lazy to write me about it! Well, at least one person seemed to like it, but I had to ask him before he told me that he absolutely loved it. So I implore you: if you love my or another's tape, write to them (or me!) and say "good show," or "loved that Birdie song," "loved that Left Banke song," etc. etc. etc. Also, I am pleased to report that listening to B&S improves productivity. Today I listened first to TWERPYBITS, then to my recently acquired copy of 3..6..9 Seconds of Light, then Lazy Line Painter Jane, then to 369 again, then TWATTYBUS one more time. Well, I only got halfway through "Rollercoaster Ride," but you understand. Anyway, most of the time I was listening, I was working on things for my graphic design class, and as a result of this, my ink drawing (a technique requiring one to use a paintbrush to apply the ink, rather than a keyboard in the more popular ink polaroid) turned out beautifully. Well, it turned out much better than the awful sketches I had done, anyway. I hope my professor likes it. So listening to B&S pays off! My favorite song of the evening was "Beautiful," which sounds a lot like "Rhoda," for those that haven't heard the elusive tune, and can't get a tape. Oh, and on an unrelated note, as I understand it the Field Mice retrospective hit the stores today in the UK. Supposedly it's quite widely available. So if you're curious as to why all the other B&S fans like them, go buy it! I will as soon as I can. They're the only band I can say I honestly like more than B&S (dodges various vegetables). Beautiful but slightly mental, /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at oak.cats.ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 08:19:53 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:19:53 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk Lyrics Need Help - What's The Score? Message-ID: <00d801bdfbfa$09cd7ee0$1c9fcdcf@brier> Shit; I have been violated. My "boom-box" got stolen out of my VW bus two nites ago, but that's not the worst of it. Tigermilk was in the cassette player, and TWATTYBUS was in the CD player. Those bastards don't know what they got, and will likely chuck the cluttering software into the garbage, meaning that I have to buy the new album for the second time in the last month (since I never see the CD used, since it's so gewwwd). But on to the issue: We all must have noticed that the lyrics to Tigermilk as posted on the Site are not at all what's being sung in the recording itself, no? Is it because they're going off the official printed lyrics? Whatever the case, I think the lyrics posted should be what is actually being sung in the song (call me old-fashioned). I have (and many others do too, I'm sure) what I feel to be the real lyrics in the proper order to the album called "Tigermilk" (save the last version of the chorus of "Expectations" which says something about "A young tool and you know / You're a star & you'll go far / .....not just people who play guitar / you're on top of the world again") and have corrected all "won't be there to see you go off YOU'RE head", among other corrections. Do you think Kitchen would want to hear our corrections, or is it a case of printing what originally came out on the liner notes as the Original Lyrics? Or am I making too much of it even now? I just want all the young ones to know what they're singing along to..... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From redisz at xxx.net Tue Oct 20 09:57:10 1998 From: redisz at xxx.net (geophphersun) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 03:57:10 -0500 Subject: Sinister: i want my lollipop! Message-ID: <362C5066.3475@ameritech.net> hello megan! i was just flipping through the sinister digest when i came to your e-mail promising a lollipop if you get the topic line. of course, it is a kahimi karie song written by momus! now send me my lollipop! jeff kurze 2146 bradford birmingham, mi 48009-7262 xo, jeff! 'tell me i'm allowed to play my fender jaguar like the velvet underground!' +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From redisz at xxx.net Tue Oct 20 10:14:05 1998 From: redisz at xxx.net (geophphersun) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 04:14:05 -0500 Subject: Sinister: ooops! Message-ID: <362C545D.6D3D@ameritech.net> i just realized i posted my address to the list! please don't mail bomb me! unless it's with lollipops! or, better yet, a tape of all the sessions and murdoch demos! i have one, but the quality is shite, and it is not complete. if you do send me that tape... i'll send you something equally as great, but i don't know what yet. thanks, bye! xo, jeff! p.s. i'm going to see belle and sebastian in toronto and chicago and i'm really, really excited!!!! but i don't have a place to stay in chicago, any suggestions? and is there a chicago meet-up? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Tue Oct 20 11:09:46 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:09:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Pro-Celebrity Overhead Bicycle Kicks Challenge. Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7BED@COR-EXG1> Turkey Miller wrote : >"However, their lack of commercial ambition borders on priggishness." >So there we have it - Stuart Murdoch is a priggishness. A terrible schoolboy error I feel Peter ? mmmmmmmmmm. This is clearly a geographic statement - Priggishness being Priggish Ness, and Priggish being a large hill with an outdoor toilet where Umberto Migraino the Chairman of the Car Boot Sale Society drinks 3 litre bottles of White Lightning. Fatboy Slug asked : Have we stopped talking about cheese now? And Carl Polgar wrote : would i be banished from the list if i admitted that i don't like cheese very much? So to answer both in one go...Apparently not, and if you are banished Carl, I 'd better come with you. Cheese has strong links with evil and Richard Digence. Peter Miller wanted more smut. Well...I spent the whole weekend in bed with my good lady. Unfortunately the only sticky secretions were of a snotty and catargghhhghghghghy nature. I blame Archel. Bolton Warrander wrote : We also make a rather unnecessary detour through the ladies underwear section. Not totally unneccessary I feel. Most stores of a family nature are designed as such to cause men as much embarrassement as is humanly possible. For instance, to obtain anything of a masculine nature in Exeters Marks and Spencers you have to climb two flights of stairs. At the top of the first flight there is the young girls section, where it is best not be eating a rather ripe pear. And at the top of the second flight you have the ye goode alde Boo- Lingerie section. I generally don't get past the first floor, but that's my perogative. Must be off. Adrian. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Tue Oct 20 11:33:07 1998 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Dr C.B.Stride) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:33:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: UK listees: Dance to B&S, Field Mice and other indiepop/punk tun Message-ID: <1652CF22499C@woodhead.shef.ac.uk> ** OK - this is the last Offbeat ad' before Christmas, so if you ** want to receive any further info then join our mailing list. Offbeat is back this Friday (23/10) and to celebrate the release of the new Field Mice comp' they'll be a few extra Field Mice tunes + the usual Belle and Seb' and loads of other indiepop undeground classics... So if you are anywhere near Sheffield, UK, then pop along - but don't be late - we'd sold out by about 9.30 last time. OFFBEAT - a real indiepop night....... with late bar, free lollipops and request sheets Sheffield Uni' SU Raynor Lounge (non-students most welcome) 9pm to 1am, £2.50 on the door... FRIDAY 23rd OCTOBER FRIDAY 20th NOVEMBER SATURDAY 12th DECEMBER Playing......Classic Indie, Punk POP 1977-1997 and C86/C96/new underground of indiepop..... HELEN LOVE-HEAVENLY-BELLE AND SEBASTIAN-DELGADOS DWEEB-CHAMELEONS-PASTELS-R.E.M.-SMITHS-PAVEMENT- FALL- BLUR-JAM-HALF MAN HALF BISCUIT-TALULAH GOSH- HEFNER-YUMMY FUR-VELOCETTE-I LUDICROUS-JUNE BRIDES SUPER FURRY ANIMALS-ELASTICA-CURVE-URUSEI YATSURA- BOGSHED-TIGER-SNUFF-DEAD KENNEDYS-PWEI-CARTER USM- DISCO PISTOL- COMET GAIN -VELODROME 2000-ANORAK GIRL STEREOLAB-CHINA DRUM-SPARKLEHORSE- BUZZCOCKS-BIS- WEDDING PRESENT-ASH-SONIC YOUTH-BODINES-PIXIES-CUD PRIMAL SCREAM (early)-GENE-SHOP ASSISTANTS-FIELD MICE CHILLS-PETER AND THE TEST TUBE BABIES-BLUEBOY-SCARFO. plus many more in the same vein...... for more details/to join the Offbeat mailing list email C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk Offbeat on the web!! http://www.shef.ac.uk/~offbeat/ Dance to the sounds of the indiepop underground at Sheffield REAL indie night +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Charlotte.Hall at xxx.uk Tue Oct 20 12:20:09 1998 From: Charlotte.Hall at xxx.uk (Charlotte Hall) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:20:09 +0100 Subject: Sinister: B&S Confessions Message-ID: <0010400A.CE21213@smlawpub.co.uk> I'm so desperately unhappy at work that I've decided to write to Blue Peter asking them for a job. My mum came to stay last weekend and I played her TBWTAS. She said "Is this Belle and Sebastian?" She's never heard them except from me. But then she leads a sheltered life with her Radio Four and her clay and her recorder pupils. I thought she'd like the recorder playing in the title song but she had a few things to say about the tonguing technique. Now I've masked it with ephemera, my confession is that I'm not so keen on the songs on TWATTYBUS on which Stuart doesn't sing... after many listens I now find myself skipping Is It Wicked Not to Care and Seymour Stein because they just don't have the same appeal. I feel obscurely disappointed when a song begins and the "wrong" voice starts singing. Their voices meld beautifully with Stuart's but on their own they lack something... On a lighter note, may I add my voice to the general clamour for more Rod on the list? Rod, where are you? Charlotte +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 14:05:56 1998 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 06:05:56 PDT Subject: Sinister: yersinia pestis Message-ID: <19981020130556.10668.qmail@hotmail.com> Cut me some slack, Tag, I get the digest, if I'd known I'd sent it three times I'd have apologized straight off. O.K. SORRY EVERYONE I HAD NO IDEA WHY OR HOW I SENT MY POST THREE TIMES IN A ROW. IF I COULD HAVE PREVENTED IT I WOULD HAVE. Why do you think I'm trying to give everyone the idea that I'm some kind of Soul Rebel? I don't have any hard and fast views on body image, all I've really noticed about it (or thought about it) is that the people =I'm= usually attracted to are the ones who seem perfectly happy with who they are no matter how they look, you know, the ones with that kind of inner dignity and confidence. And some of them were real cows, too. Heh heh. I think =that's= something everyone should aspire towards. Really. The dignity and confidence part. The only reason why I felt the need to reply was because (Fluffy?)'s post not only accused all men's desires of shaping women unhealthily (which is partially true but) also that we have some kind of easily-circumscribed monolithic desires. I don't think the crimes of eating disorders can be lain strictly at the feet of men, particularly after two weeks ago I went home for a weekend and at a sorority party the "sisters" had all their pledges lined up and invited people to come up and circle areas of fat on their naked bodies with black magic marker. Not that sorority girls are the best or brightest (nor fraternity brothers... some of them went so far as to circle the pledges' breasts (!??!!?) ) but that's some pretty frightening complicity with the patriarchy, no? Somebody tell me at least what a perfect world would be. How did we get started talking about this? I really wanted lite cream cheese this morning, I swear, I couldn't help it.... just... one.... more.... bite... Hope this one sends just once, Love, Kullev ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 14:36:30 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:36:30 +0100 Subject: Sinister: a pile of self-indulgent manure Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22289EE8@server1.HITEntertainment.com> I'm writing cos I was spurred on by Todd (I'se here, buddy, I'se here!), but also because you may well be forgetting how fabulous I am. Hmmm... Figured out how to adapt "Judy..."'s trumpet part for the flute yesterday. Well, adapt is the wrong word, but I can now play it, at least, which should come in handy when certain sinisterines (half plum, half cardigan) get together on Saturday afternoon... I too thought Corpora's comments on skinniness were apposite and rib-tickling. I had a little reverie last night about how lovely love handles are, despite my new-found appreciation for the slenderer figure on gurls. I myself have a couple of love handles I'm working on - they may be mere saplings at the moment, but after a week of every possible excess in NYC I'm hoping to have buns like bean bags. Best lay off the heroin, then. Archel = orgiastic? And you seem like such a nice girl...I was in a similar position a few years ago, but vomiting again became an unfortunate issue. It makes me wonder quite how pissed we have to be before it becomes an attractive option... I don't think I've yet added my wisdom about the Lucksmiths last Friday. Fucking genius! I'd love to be more expressive, but I always sound like a pretentious swine when I ponce about with metaphors and adverbs and the like. And also when I don't, I suppose. Hey ho. I am still yet to meet anyone in the street or on the train (I don't do buses, darlings) who's wearing a B&S badge, or humming a B&S tune. Does this happen a lot? I mean, there are quite a few of us now, so I guess it must now and again...I really want to bump into someone who then becomes a lifelong friend, and all because they were singing "...clears the washing up..." and wearing flares... Rambling too much. Must read children's books............ Biondello xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atieger at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 15:28:14 1998 From: atieger at xxx.com (aaron tieger) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 07:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981020142814.11459.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Frankly, I don't see how anybody can be NOT into Tom Waits. I just had a pleasant morning: after waking at 8:30, I put on Closing Time" and went back to sleep for the duration of the album. A nice way to start the day. aaron ps- is anybody meeting up before or after the B.U. show tomorrow night? === atieger at rocketmail.com auger/anvil "So goodbye, so long, the road calls me dear and your tears cannot bind me anymore And farewell to the girl with the sun in her eyes I'll kiss you and then I'll be gone" --Tom Waits _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail, free e-mail for the planet. * Visit & explore Cybersmith at http://www.cybersmith.com * Get your web-based e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Tue Oct 20 15:33:12 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:33:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: DONKEY! Message-ID: <01BDFC3E.F33A2D50.keith@qss.co.uk> As regards the Divine mix tape, I'm afraid it has been expertly put together on the wheels of steel by Dr "Spinmaster" Symington, and I expect Alan too, although I'm sure Anne can keep us right on that one, so your dreams of becoming a DJ champ are stuffed before they even began. I'm disappointed to see that Dr.CB Stride in his advert for his really indie club is only planning on celebrating the release of the Fieldmice compilation and not on celebrating the release of the Levellers and Paul "the Modfather" Weller's greatest hits cashins that hit the shops within the next few weeks, when can we expect nights for these? I found a bit about the Lotus Eaters to read by the way recently and it turns out they were quite popular in different places, apparently they had a top 10 hit in Italy in the mid-eighties, I liked that first picture of you song. Do they rule? Or is it a "hand me down a can of beans" case? Oh and I do wish I had a specially modified Pop brain, maybe one of these days when the Bionic man becomes a reality this'll be able to happen. Talking of Evel Knievel, they had an Evel Knievel night recently on BBC2, and it was bloody brilliant, there was a bit where he tries to fly across a canyon, but only makes it about 50 feet and lands in the river. The commentary is hilarious, as they try to make everything out to be death-defying, like when he lands, softly in the river, they're all shouting "Is he gonna be OK? Is he going to make it to the edge alright?" etc, and he's about 15 feet from the edge of the canyon - it's just as well he's a strong swimmer. Carrick, your Roger Daltrey hair goes down very well with me, and I expect Mr.Miller too, being great WHO fans as we said for several months on end boring everyone to tears. Is your hair the 70's incarnation of Roger Daltrey? If so, it's even better. Does anyone know if the 70's WHO plan on releasing any new albums in the near future? It's been a while since the last one. Cheers, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From donovan at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 15:32:40 1998 From: donovan at xxx.com (donovan finn) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:32:40 -0400 Subject: Sinister: boston Message-ID: belle and sebastian play at 10:15 get there early for containe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From redhot_mel at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 15:55:54 1998 From: redhot_mel at xxx.com (rommel mendoza) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 07:55:54 PDT Subject: Sinister: Look at meeeeeee!!!! Message-ID: <19981020145557.8482.qmail@hotmail.com> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I feel so hyper-active and unwell, all at the same time!!!!!! What to do... what to do? There's something about a new found relationship that feels so warm and gooey that you have to address it properly with your pants down and a moist finger in the air... Hey, doesn't really matter... but if you do get get that funky friday feeling then mail me... we can discuss if it does actually happen to people? Then again... maybe not... As you have probably gathered by this completely useless gabber, I am new to this sort of thing. Seb, that is, Funkyseb at aol.com... has already mentioned me in one of his mails, what a fine upstanding citizen he is! A few things to point out... I'm male, so if anybody tries one, I'll lamp them one, in the chops!!!! You might have actually seen me at the picnics with Seb and Fred... I would have been tagging along, feeling cold and/or trying to sleep at the same time! Hey, does anybody know what the theme for world aids day is this year? The only reason why I ask is because I'm doing a street performance for it this year... I need some ideas!!! Oh well, time to leave... a woman beckons me in the distance... her name comforts me... Doreen, I think? "Piles are shit, aren't they?" Mel xx I am a very homesick person at the mo... I've moved up north to Burnley, extremely wise career move, eh? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wizzcake at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 16:07:57 1998 From: wizzcake at xxx.com (gateau du wizz) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 08:07:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: rory babyblu is a naughty boy Message-ID: <19981020150758.11002.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> hey bebes - this is going to be my last post before i head off to new york on the morrow. philly on friday - can't wait! i guess i will meet some of you precious dawhlings at the meet up in philly on friday, non? (jessica aka foxinasnow - i wanna hear all about the boy with the fab name you were crushing on....crushes are my absolute favourite things!!) i'll be the sickly pale and sober irish one, sans daisy, driving a mini van full of terrorised californian kids (i hate driving where the sun always shines on the tv). oooh, it's soo exciting! i plan to get to philly around 5 or 6 pm. i'll probably have a cellphone and may have to call you as no doubt i'll be circling your neighborhood needing directions. AND rory, you naughty babyblu boy, you never emailed me or called me so i figure it will only be with the assistance of my faery godmothers' glittering dust that we will now meet in new york. i am hoping you'll check your mailbox in the interim like moi. there's a special message there for you. OR!!! (as a thought has just occurred to moi:) aren't you staying with a lovely kind soul from the list? who may be reading this??? oh my gawsh!!! problemo solved! dear kind host to lovely rory and lush linda, please can you ask rory to email me with meet up plans for friday. wow! you're spesh! i could post a contact # here but my friend J with whom i am staying might not like that... padraic_fresheire at yahoo.com there, all clear. email me bro'!! Belle & Sebastian content: i think i am in love with stuart murdoch. in a trent from daria sort of way. *quiver* i'd like to take him home and feed him some of lady penelope's nourishing thunderbird soup (no you smutty pervs, not that variety!!). heh heh, later souls, lady penelope, sans daisy. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Tue Oct 20 16:09:38 1998 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:09:38 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: vinyl Message-ID: <1285CD110E7@hermes.nottingham.ac.uk> Hellooo I bought a copy of "Je T'aime Moi Non Plus ..." today on 7 inch cos it was a bargain. When I played it the sound was really fuzzy. It sounded like Jane B was singing through an iron lung. Now, on inspection it just looks like the record is really dirty and the grroves are a bit clogged up. Does anyone know the best way to clean vinyl? And if someone could make me a copy of the French Radio session I would be eternally grateful.... Thanks Robin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From terri_wise at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 16:20:13 1998 From: terri_wise at xxx.com (Wise, Terri) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:20:13 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I Like Edie Sedgwick's Earrings. Message-ID: <199810201520.AA25195@interlock.mgh.com> The pick of Isabelle on the Arab Strap insert is very Edie Sedgwick - esque. Edie Sedgwick did indeed have troubled later years, and earlier years, too! She died of a drug overdose after years of abusing all kinds of drugs... and before that she had a strange relationship with her father and I believe lost a very close relative along the way. Wish I had more time to chat on this! The book is still in print - look for it. It's by Jean Stein and George Plimpton and it's entirely made up of pieces of interviews with people who knew Edie at various stages in her life. It's considered a modern biographical classic because of its innovative format. Terri Wise Editorial Assistant McGraw-Hill College (617) 867-9805 Fax (617) 375-2285 -----Original Message----- From: carrick44 at xxx.com] Sent: Monday, October 19, 1998 12:18 AM To: sinister at majordomo.net Subject: Sinister: I Like Edie Sedgwick's Earrings. Dear Brothers and Sisters, I was really going to make an effort to write more often to this here mailing list. It was a couple of weeks ago, and I told myself that I was going to write each day this week. Of course I never did. I....did something else instead. Days keep slipping by, and wait, only three days till our heroes will grace these American shores. Perfect time of year for all of this. The leaves are falling, the nights are getting cooler. Everything is starting to make a bit more sense. Things are coming into focus after the hot and hazy summer. And I was stacking firewood this evening, which as much as I'd hate to admit it, always puts me in a good mood. Does that make me 'simple'? So, yes, Edie Sedgwick. This all ties together somewhere. I got dragged to New York City yesterday, to go to the Whitney Museum to see some exhibit of some artist who I can't remember but was very good. Very big bold paintings. Lots of emotion. Anyway, they were also showing a film of Andy Warhol, "Outer and Inner Space". So I got to stare at four images of Edie Sedgwick for half an hour. At one point it struck me that she reminded me of our very own Isobelle. Maybe its just the hair cut. And Edie was wearing these really big earrings. They were wonderful. But I seem to remember that Edie was a bit of a mess in her later years. Didn't the Cult write a song about her? For all those coming in for the New York show on Sunday, maybe you can catch the film before the meet-up. There are showings at 11.30, 12.45, 2, 3.15, and 4.30. No shows Monday or Tuesday it seems, though. On Madison, at 75th street. Not sure if I'll be able to make the meet up. I think my little group will be drinking somewhere special. To let everybody know, this is Todd's last night out on the town, since he will be moving to The South. In the spirit of the UK after show club happenings, we were thinking of taking our little group of friends to this place called SHOUT! Never been myself, but its supposed to be a club in the 60's pop/soul vein. Its quite possible that it might be filled with pretentious neo-mods. If so, I'm sure a throng of hyped-up(possibly tipsy) Belle and Sebastian fans can out-class any pretentious neo-mod. And I'm sure we can out do them on the dance floor. We've all got SOUL. But just in case I'll bring a few extra Ben Shermans, if anybody needs help getting in the door. Some friends of mine, (including the infamous Todd) will be making a bit of a road trip to take in the Boston and Philly shows. I got my badge(or button as we Americans call it. A badge is something boy scouts get.) and my t-shirt all ready. I'll be the rather tall boy with red hair. And I'll probably be smiling. Ready, Set, Who!!!!....I mean Go! For those still reading, thank you. I'll save my mishearings and questions for some other time. love Carrick "I hand over my mouth...." -____________________________ ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jgockley at xxx.edu Tue Oct 20 16:23:32 1998 From: jgockley at xxx.edu (Jessica Gockley) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:23:32 -0400 Subject: Sinister: rory babyblu is a naughty boy In-Reply-To: <19981020150758.11002.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981020112332.006a3dc0@beacon.eastern.edu> Lady Penelope left one final post before leaving, and it was about me: >i guess i will meet some of you precious dawhlings at the meet up in >philly on friday, non? (jessica aka foxinasnow - i wanna hear all >about the boy with the fab name you were crushing on....crushes are my >absolute favourite things!!) I'm worried about this, because i can't for the life of me figure out what fabulously named boy this is in reference to. Either i'm being confused for another Jessica (or another Foxinasnow??), or i'm forgetting something grossly important here. I've stalked Honey a lot in the past few months, but i don't remember making any references to crushes. Nor do i remember having a crush on a boy with a fab name. Oh dear oh dear oh dear. In other news, though, imagine my excitement upon realizing that the flowerbed in front of my dorm is full of DAISIES. Maybe there will be at least one listee at the show with a daisy, after all. Unless somebody catches me clipping a flower or two and subjects me to a nasty fine. I wouldn't put it past the powers that be at this school to do that to me. "Please, sir, all i wanted was one little daisy!" So, i'll be the short girl with the long black hair and the daisy (in lieu of a badge, as i still don't own any non-musical B&S merchandise). Love, Jess Foxinasnow "You're always looking for a sign, but boy you blow it every time. You hear a voice begin to speak; you ignore it and go softly to sleep" - Belle & Sebastian Jessica Gockley | Box 326 Eastern College | 1300 Eagle Road | St Davids, PA 19087 | 610-225-5403 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 16:01:21 1998 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:01:21 -0400 Subject: Sinister: re: toronto & cartoons Message-ID: >Someone asked who the openers were going to be for the toronto date. i >do believe that it is Spooky Ruben. I'm not completly sure. You can >check by phoning the Edge club and concert listings. The number is (416) >872-3343. or is it 870? any how, it lists it there. It is Spookey Ruben. Says so on my ticket, and also in the papers. truly, jessicaxo "Homer, you've got it set on 'whore'." **************************************************** Someone had spied on us, I suppose, as we sat beside the canal and ate the sandwiches, drinking not even orangeade or Coca-Cola but hot milk out of a thermos. *************************************************** t i n y s t a r @ w o r l d y . c o m +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 16:01:40 1998 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:01:40 -0400 Subject: Sinister: BRING PEZ TO TORONTO SHOW! Message-ID: >Last night my flatmate and I were getting truly excited! In just over 3 >weeks, Belle & Sebastian will be in Toronto! So we started thinking and >wondering what if all the listees at the show did something to identify >ourselves?? So if we miss on a picnic or gathering (and it sounds like >there's a few), we can still meet up at the show and be supremely >sinister with PEZ dispensers! I'm picking up on an old thread here. I was hoping that we could all just wear nametags, like "hello my name is..." or something, it would give everyone a chance to be creative on their badge and flaunt their artistic talents...but please, nobody be too good or the rest of us (i.e. me) will end up with an inferiority complex. And I've got a thing about taking my pez out in public, i know it sounds lame but i get worried the dispenser will get broken during any roughhousing that may take place. truly, hellomynameisjessicaxo "Homer, you've got it set on 'whore'." **************************************************** Someone had spied on us, I suppose, as we sat beside the canal and ate the sandwiches, drinking not even orangeade or Coca-Cola but hot milk out of a thermos. *************************************************** t i n y s t a r @ w o r l d y . c o m +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wizzcake at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 16:47:09 1998 From: wizzcake at xxx.com (gateau du wizz) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 08:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: oops! it was another jessica Message-ID: <19981020154710.1644.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> le ooops! jessica tinystar had a crush (gawsh wouldn't it be silly if i was wrong again?) and not jessica foxinasnow. but who needs accuracy when you're thin, dawhlings? lady penelope (avec trop plus du champagne) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lolo at xxx.ie Tue Oct 20 16:57:52 1998 From: lolo at xxx.ie (Lolo Wood) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:57:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: nuffin much Message-ID: <19981020165752.29044@redbrick.dcu.ie> Hello all you lovely Sinister people I've been eavesdropping on your converstaions for a week now, but I've been too shy to post - plus I've had nothing terribly interesting to say. But how I smirked at the cheese converstaions! How I trembled at the US vs. UK tiff! How I growled at the slagging-overweight-people-off bit! I was going to tell you all about my radio show, which you can only pick up in the Dublin area, but the only other Dublinese person on the list seems to be Joss (hi Joss!), who by a strange coincidence has a show on the very same station! Fancy that! (Actually, if you know Dublin at all, you'll know it's actually a small provincial Irish town, not a city as it would sneakily have you believe. It just happens to be the biggest small provincial Irish town. So it's not that much of a coincidence that Joss and I know each other.) B&S content: why bother arguing over which EP/ LP is better than the others? They're all beautiful and wonderful and delicious and dreamy and gorgeous. There, now I've posted. I feel so much better now. Byee, Lolo. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ian.thompson at xxx.uk Tue Oct 20 17:07:19 1998 From: ian.thompson at xxx.uk (Ian D. Thompson) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:07:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Parka-life Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981020170719.006a7cf0@pop-hub.strath.ac.uk> Gary wrote... >Lord Anthony did do Parkas, but they weren't like the "fish tail" parkas >that mods wear. I had an LA one when I was in Primary school, but then most >people did at the time. They were great, except when the hood was >completely zipped up so that the furry bit covered your face and got in your >mouth. As for ridicule, surely dragging people round the schoolyard by the >loop thing on the top/back of the hood was much more fun. You could also have hours of fun with Parkas if you actually used the built-in pen/pencil holder on the arm that prevented you from bending your elbows, doing groovy robot impressions. Added bonus if your mum had sewn your mittens thru the sleeves to reduce mobility even more. Ahh, great days. The LAnt jackets i remember were kinda beigey "blouson" style jackets with cheesey tartan linings, zip-up pockets and elasticated wrists... it was required to wear brown corduroy trousers with them, preferably half masts, and to carry an old style leather-look brown satchel with broken buckles containing a half eaten marmite (or nutella?) sandwhich . RE: thrush from railings This is to do with Mick mentioning that when he was wee at school he used to lick the ice that formed on the school railings. I must admit I used to do that too. Must be a north Scotland thing. I never heard of anyone getting thrush from it tho' (dont think candida would survive outside in a Scottish winter ;) Ian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Tue Oct 20 17:12:50 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:12:50 +0100 () Subject: Sinister: a pile of self-indulgent manure In-Reply-To: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22289EE8@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Message-ID: > > Archel = orgiastic? And you seem like such a nice girl...I was in a similar > position a few years ago, but vomiting again became an unfortunate issue. It > makes me wonder quite how pissed we have to be before it becomes an > attractive option... I am a nice girl (whatever slanderous things Adrian might hint at) but I just happen to be umm 'open minded' as well. which is nice in itself i think. obviously not openminded enough to contemplate any sexual shenanigans without alcohol though. and alcohol = vomit. so i fear i shall never see any of my friends naked unless we can overcome the (in my opinion quite large) obstacle of the chunder issue. erm, i fear i've said too much. so, belle and sebastian. i like tigermilk i've decided (having heard it for the FIRST time yesterday). especially she's losing it. i wonder why?..... oh, i had some other stuff to say i think but i've forgotten it all, you'll no doubt be pleased to hear. it all comes of reading italian too much. (to paraphrase Pooh.) luv a local girl who wants to be a hero ps: oh yes. tofutti! it's like cream cheese only made of tofu! and its gorgeous! > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Christian at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 17:12:11 1998 From: Christian at xxx.com (Christian Havins) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:12:11 -0500 Subject: Sinister: filling my fat face Message-ID: <362CB655.DA71E0F6@perx.com> i'm having cheesecake and coffee for breakfast while it's cold and raining outside. mmmm! and i don't care if i lose my boyish figure!! there's a place under the metro in chicago (called the smart bar?) where a few of us will meet before the show. you'll know me by the lustre of my gold teeth. cultivating a rubenesque physique, christian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jmurphy at xxx.Edu Tue Oct 20 17:21:06 1998 From: jmurphy at xxx.Edu (Jessica Murphy) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:21:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: oops! it was another jessica (fwd) Message-ID: Hello readers, I can't resist posting right now, just to add to the confusion. I've counted at least 4 Sinisterines named Jessica, myself included... But I don't post all that often, and the only listees who have met me are a few NYC people, and I don't think I have a crush on anybody, either... So it's probably not as much of a situation as I'm imagining it is! Wondering how I got my name and what I'm going to do about it, jessica m (at grad school in Delaware, but actually from New Jersey, say what you will!) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 08:47:09 -0700 (PDT) From: gateau du wizz le ooops! jessica tinystar had a crush (gawsh wouldn't it be silly if i was wrong again?) and not jessica foxinasnow. but who needs accuracy when you're thin, dawhlings? lady penelope (avec trop plus du champagne) _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marc.boudignon at xxx.ca Tue Oct 20 17:22:33 1998 From: marc.boudignon at xxx.ca (Marc Boudignon) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:22:33 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Hello!(from a new member) Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981020122233.006e6138@pop.sheridanc.on.ca> Hi everyone! Just got on the list, though I've been a listener for quite some time now. I guess I thought I might as well try it out. I live in Toronto, so to all my fellow Torontonians: See you at the concert on Saturday! Marc P.S. What size of crowd are people speculating to have at the concert? From what I know, it hasn't sold out - or has it? I'm still completely phased that they even decided to come here! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Tue Oct 20 17:23:10 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:23:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: jeepster-news: The Acid House Message-ID: <362CB8EE.B3F0D24F@jeepster.co.uk> Hello all, We received a promo copy today of the soundtrack to The Acid House, so i thought i'd share all the details we've got about the release of the album and film. As you all know, Belle & Sebastian's track "Slow Graffiti" features on the second film of the trilogy, titled "A Soft Touch". The full tracklisting for the album is: Granton Star Cause 1. Primal Scream "Insect Royalty" 2. The Gyres "Break" 3. The Pastels "Nothing To Be Done" 4. Barry Adamson/Nick Cave "Sweetest Embrace" 5. B.R.A. "Carbootechnodiscotechnobooto" A Soft Touch 6. The Sould Renegades with Texas "You'll Never Know" 7. Beth Orton "Precious Maybe" 8. T-Rex "Hot Love" 9. Belle & Sebastian "Slow Graffiti" 10. Arab Strap "I Still Miss You" 11. Oasis "Going Nowhere" The Acid House 12. The Chemical Brothers "Leave Home" 13. The Sons of Silence "Bobby Dazzler" 14. Death in Vegas "Claiming Marilyn" 15. Dimitri from Paris "Toujours L'Amore" 16. The Verve "On Your Own" 17. The Chemical Brothers "Leave Home" (Underworld Mix 1) ... which looks pretty bloody ace if you ask me! The soundtrack will be released by EMI in the UK on November 9th, so you can all get your hands on "Slow Graffiti" then. As far as the rest of the world goes, i really don't have much of an idea what is happening, but should i find something out, i'll let you know. The film is released in the UK on January 1st 1999, again i don't have r.o.w. dates, but if and when i do, i'll pass on the details. Hope this helps! Cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a message from the Jeepster Records news mailing list. Visit our site at http://www.jeepster.co.uk for more info. To unsubscribe yourself from this list send a message to majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'unsubscribe news' in the body of the message Any problems? mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ca812 at xxx.ca Tue Oct 20 18:07:02 1998 From: ca812 at xxx.ca (Allan de Leon) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:07:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: B&S Toronto Meet Info(PLEASE READ) Message-ID: hello DUDES & DUDETTES, I called the Ticketmaster today and I was been informed that the B&S show is now an ALL AGE SHOW... Also..we now have two meet venues for Saturday Oct.24 Here's the first one: Time: 6:00 PM to 6:30 PM Venue: In front of CLUB MONACO store (Toronto Eaton Centre- just corner of Yonge & Dundas)..It's a big store and you won't miss it.. Now for people who can't make it on time (after 6:30 PM) ...will gonna have to go directly to the bar called "PUBLIC LIBRARY" ..Matthew will be there early for company... Directions to the bar is provided below... So I'll wait for you guys in fron of Club Monaco until 6:30 pm... After that we can go for drinks at the Public Library.. BY THE WAY, ****************************************** Second Venue: 6:30 to 7:30 PM >From the North end of the Eaton Centre (CLUB MONACO) you walk 2 blocks east on Dundas. You'll pass a Tim Horton's, then Victoria street, then a Hakim optical and there it is on the north side of Dundas. You can see it from the Hard Rock. The first floor is a dump so remember to go upstairs (it's a dump up there too, but a cozy dump)! OK..See you guys on Saturday :) Thanks for the directions Matthew CHEERS, ALLAN ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Kbierfelt at xxx.org Tue Oct 20 18:11:00 1998 From: Kbierfelt at xxx.org (Kristin Bierfelt (MFA)) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:11:00 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Boston show Message-ID: Hey all. I'm a new chick, both to the list and the band, and I just want to tell you all that no less than 12 HOURS after the BU show I will be having an art history midterm in THAT VERY AUDITORIUM! So if any of you want to tape cheat sheets under the seats for me, or just leave me fun things to amuse myself during the test, I usually sit near the front on the right side, close to the door. Humph... Maybe if I pretend I left a book in there after this morning's class, they'll let me sneak in to the show to "look for it"? Hmmm.... xo, Kris +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From John.Jackson at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 18:28:29 1998 From: John.Jackson at xxx.com (Jackson,John) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:28:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: krazy katz Message-ID: <41C92C3681323A7C%41C92C3681323A7C@inet.ctxi.com> Bloody hell I never thought I'd post one of these, but you see kids I had a B&S DREAM. Oh jesus... I was trying to explain to someone, possible Rachel, most probably Sandy, that 'A Summer Wasting' was actually a cover, of a Pixies song..to prove it, I played the original, which started off all sweetly with mr Black Francis crooning 'Summer and winter' etc and then shrieking I SPENT THE SUMMER WASTING with Pixies style r!o!c!k! backing.. In case you're interested, it was played at about the speed of 'The Happening', and it was far far superior to the original. Can anyone do me a CD of this cos I'd love to hear it again. JJ xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LeeannJea at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 18:48:55 1998 From: LeeannJea at xxx.com (LeeannJea at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:48:55 EDT Subject: Sinister: B&S in New York (in the mud, on my knees, begging...) Message-ID: hi kindly sinister-ites, just your average (needy!), predictable (desperate!) request (plea!) for a ticket (more precious than gold!) to Belle and Seb's November 1st or 2nd shows in New York. if any person (blessed saint!) can help me out, *please* get in touch with me (and I will praise your name forever). NB: Bill Gates is my dad and he has promised 10,000 shares of Microsoft stock to anyone who can help me out (er, okay, so maybe I'll just cash in my nickel jar and pay you face value + some extra for your troubles). well, I hope someone out there can help, thanks for listening darlings, leeann leeannjea at aol.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From noelani30 at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 18:52:24 1998 From: noelani30 at xxx.com (Jessica Wright) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:52:24 PDT Subject: Sinister: 4th jessica Message-ID: <19981020175225.23007.qmail@hotmail.com> just thought since it came up, i should present myself as the fourth (but not last) jessica (w) i'm at school in virginia but also from nj originally (hoboken), jessica m does hoboken really count? =D i just got 3..6..9 and Lazy Line i think "century of fakers" is beautiful i'm getting psyched for the dc show i don't speak up much either but i listen -jessica w -------------------------------------- "happiness is a hermit who lives on a hill and speaks to no one joy is the money he buries in the yard and forgets where it is he dies and all the neighbors of the world come digging finding nothing but at least they have their little daydreams" -Judybats ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From J_Fogel at xxx.EDU Wed Oct 21 08:11:13 1998 From: J_Fogel at xxx.EDU (jess) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 02:11:13 -0500 Subject: Sinister: #5 Message-ID: <362D8911.DCAA59C0@emerson.edu> this is fun....spot the "Jessica's"... well i announce myself #5...i'm Jessica F., nice to meet ya all... the Boston show is tomorrow night, and i can truly admit that i am excited!!!! see ya all, J.F +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chigger88 at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 19:28:40 1998 From: chigger88 at xxx.com (Burt Reynolds) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:28:40 PDT Subject: Sinister: Jive FAQ Message-ID: <19981020182842.25943.qmail@hotmail.com> I sent this to jivenator at jiveon.com for kicks and giggles. You can send them anything and they will translate it into jive. Ha ha. Rachael --------------- Belle and Sebastian : Frequently ax'ed Quesshuns 1. What be Tigermilk, where kin ah' get some copy? Tigermilk be de bands fust album and wuz released around about May 1996. It wuz released as part uh a Stow College course whereby Alan Rankine (of de Associates) fronts down de cash to reco'd some sin'le every year, aldough wid Belle and Sebastian dey decided dat dere wuz enough material fo' an album, hence Tigermilk. Dere wuz only 1000 copies pressed and so's de reco'd be wo'd some lot uh bre'd now. De band gots' always mantained dat Tigermilk will be re-released at some point, and dis gots'ta definitely be da damn case, currently likesly dat about March 1999, aldough dis may change. What it is, Mama! 2. Who be de guest sin'a' on Lazy Line Painta' Jane? De female sin'a' on Lazy Line Painta' Jane be Monica Queen, fo'merly of countryish Glasgow band Drum. 'S coo', bro. Drum released some reco'd some few years ago, about 1994 ah' dink. Last ah' heard she wuz reco'din' wid ha' own band which be called "Monica", o' at least dat's whut it wuz called in February 1997. Here's some list uh releases. "Purify" 7", "Drum" / "Here ah' am" / "So glad" 12"/CDs and da damn "Rifferama" LP/CD 3. What be "Elvis" in A Century uh Elvis. No-one knows bar de audo' really, but it's probably some cat, puh'haps a to'toise, maybe actually Elvis, maybe it's To'telvis fum Dread Zeppelin who knows, and t'be quite honest, who cares. 4. Who be in de band... Stuart Murdoch - sin'in' guitar, trumpet apparently now, fo' de twin lead trumpet effect. Isobel Campbell - sin'in', cello, various Sarah Martin - violin, weird wahtahmelluns Stevie Buckwheatson - Guitar, piano, sin'in'. Stuart Issac - Bass Mick Cooke - Trumpet, various Chris Geddes - keybo'ds Richard Colburn - Drums Neil Leroyson gots'ta been knode t'play bass on Stuart Issac's "Spaceboy Dream", which brin's me on to... 5. What oda' bands gots' members uh Belle and Sebastian involved in? Dere's quite some numba' of wahtahmelluns here. What it is, Mama! I'm sho' nuff it's not complete eider, it's plum whut ah' can rememba' off hand. Chris Geddes : currently V-Twin and Golden Rodeo (dink dat's whut dey're called). Has played on Arab Strap reco'ds. V-Twin gots' released two sin'les (to my knowledge), Gifted, and a 12", In de land uh de Pharoes. Mick Cooke : Used t'play wid Hardbody, who released two sin'les on Epic (On yo' own, Hazel's hob). Now plays wid de Karelia and da damn Amphetameanies. Has also played on releases by Mojave 3, Ex-Cadedra. Sheeeiit. Probably oders too. Stuart Murdoch : Played on releases by Polarbear and Arab Strap. Previously : (Early) Digger$, Lisa Helps De Blind, Rhode Island. Richard Colburn : Has played wid Polarbear/Snowpatrol Isobel Campbell : Has played on Arab Strap reco'ds, also played on de Snowpatrol reco'd. Stuart Issac : Stuart Issac gots'ta some side project called "Loopuh'". Dere gots'ta been one sin'le released on Sub-pop sin'les club called "Impossible wahtahmelluns" and dere be an album planned. 6. What reco'ds gots' been released? Tigermilk (LP) May 1996 If youse feelin' sinista' (LP) Novemba' 1996 Dog on Wheels (EP) April 1997 Lazy Line Painta' Jane (EP) June 1997 3,6,9 Seconds uh Light (EP) Octoba' 1997 De Boy wid de Arab Strap (LP) Septemba' 1998 7. What's dat song at da damn end uh de 3,6,9 seconds uh light EP called. It's called "Songs fo' Children". 8. What about all dese unreleased songs dat sucka's keep beltin' on about in o'da' to make demselves look smart? Pocketscribblin' Angel London gots'ta let me waaay down Hurley's havin' dreams Dese are little demos uh old songs dat gots'ta as far as we know, never eva' be released as Belle and Sebastian. 'S coo', bro. Loneliness uh de middle distance runner Modern Rock song Rhoda People around da damn place gots' tapes uh various different versions of dese, dey've been kickin' around fo' some while and dey may sheeit be released reasonably soon, dere are numerous different versions of de Loneliness uh de middle distance runner. Ah be baaad... I Know where da damn summa' goes De Gate Dese two gots'ta probably be some part uh de next sin'le Here's anoda' piece by Peta' Milla' : One uh de rarest Belle and Sebastian related reco'din's be a plantation produced demo uh "To Sir Wid Love", de Lulu song fum de film uh de same dojigger. De reco'din' features de plaintive voice uh Stuart Murdoch alone wid his Casiotone keybo'd, and be rumoured t'be heartboogiein'ly beautiful. >From de same reco'din' session comes one uh Murdoch's earliest attempts at songwritin', but no one kin rememba' whut it's called. It menshuns "She Made Me Realise" by My Bloody Valentine. What it is, Mama! Effo'ts t'locate dese reco'din's gots' proved unsuccesful so's far. Ah be baaad... 9. What sessions gots' dey done on de transista'? De fust session wuz around about Septemba' 1996 here Amos Lamarr sat in fo' Amos and Lard at night... Dey played Judy and da damn dream uh ho'ses Like Dylan in de movies De State dat ah' am in De stars uh track and field De second wuz about February 1997 on Amos + Lard's honky code again and dey played : I could be dreamin' Seein' oda' sucka's (slow version) We rule da damn farm Modern Rock song De dird wuz on Steve Lamacq's evenin' session and dey played : Lazy Line Painta' Jane Sleep de clock around Slow Graffiti Seymour Stein Dey dun did one uh Stevie Buckwheatson's tracks "Wrong Love" one night when de evenin' session wuz live fum Glasgow. Apparently dis be now called "Wrong Girl", gots'ta it be called "Wrong Sheep" at some point in de future? De foed less sheeit knode session wuz on Peta' Easton's Radio Scotland beat honky code where he played : De Loneliness uh de middle distance runner Slow Graffiti Modern Rock song. 10. Who be Tigermilk dedicated to? Tigermilk be dedicated t'Lawrence Bradby, who's some homey uh Stuart's. ah' dunno how frequently ax'ed dis quesshun is, but it certainly wuz ax'ed frequently recently as regards some competishun on French transista'. 11. Are Belle and Sebastian twee? No, dey rock. 12. Dog on Wheels, whut's de sto'y dere den? Sheeit it's not really Belle and Sebastian on dat EP, as ya''ll see if ya' gots' some look at who played on it. Here's de sto'y, dig dis: All de songs on de EP wuz reco'ded some time, eida' at da damn end uh '95, o' start uh '96, at Beat Box studios, which is where Stuarts Murdoch and Issac wuz doin' some doley sound engineerin' course at da damn time. What it is, Mama! Pretty much everyone who plays on it wuz on de course as sheeit, apart fum Mick. One uh de guys who ran de studio wuz Alan Rankine, uh Stow College, and Electric Honey Reco'ds, which be where he came in. 'S coo', bro. So hopefully dat'll put an end t'de wo'd uh loads uh ho'y old session beatians playin' on it, plum kids who were on de course. What it is, Mama! Makes de reco'din' uh dat EP sounds less likes an episode uh Rock School duzn't it. 13. Le Pastie de la Bourgeousie - whut duz it translate as? Apparently, whut it's sdownposed t'translate as is "De Apady uh de Uppuh' Class", howeva' it duzn't, so's we're told by reliable French sucka's... Doh. Right On! And yes it wuz sprayed on de wall at Charin' Cross fo' some while, it's in de video fo' Dog on Wheels, dere wuz anoda' graffiti of de same wahtahmellun done by some bloke fum de Yummyfur next t'Greggs de Bakers on Byres road. 14. Who's on de covers uh de reco'ds? Tigermilk : Joanne Kenney If youse feelin' sinista' : Ciara MacLaverty Dog on Wheels : Joanne Kenney Lazy Line Painta' Jane : ah' dunno 3,6,9 Seconds uh Light : Victo'ia Mo'ton De Boy wid de Arab Strap : Chris Geddes ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sang_froid at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 19:31:10 1998 From: sang_froid at xxx.com (Claire Cairns) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:31:10 PDT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981020183111.11816.qmail@hotmail.com> >this is fun....spot the "Jessica's"... >well i announce myself #5...i'm Jessica F., nice to meet ya all... Seems to be a popular name. I used to go to school with a guy who called himself Jessica at the weekend (and sometimes during the evening). I think his name was Bryan Murphy - not a very camp name for a very, very camp person (at least, camp for Coatbridge). Anyway, thats my Jessica. How many more can we get? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sang_froid at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 19:32:06 1998 From: sang_froid at xxx.com (Claire Cairns) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:32:06 PDT Subject: Sinister: Camp Murphy Message-ID: <19981020183207.27317.qmail@hotmail.com> >this is fun....spot the "Jessica's"... >well i announce myself #5...i'm Jessica F., nice to meet ya all... Seems to be a popular name. I used to go to school with a guy who called himself Jessica at the weekend (and sometimes during the evening). I think his name was Bryan Murphy - not a very camp name for a very, very camp person (at least, camp for Coatbridge). Anyway, thats my Jessica. How many more can we get? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sang_froid at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 19:32:59 1998 From: sang_froid at xxx.com (Claire Cairns) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:32:59 PDT Subject: Sinister: Camp Murphy Message-ID: <19981020183259.17045.qmail@hotmail.com> >this is fun....spot the "Jessica's"... >well i announce myself #5...i'm Jessica F., nice to meet ya all... Seems to be a popular name. I used to go to school with a guy who called himself Jessica at the weekend (and sometimes during the evening). I think his name was Bryan Murphy - not a very camp name for a very, very camp person (at least, camp for Coatbridge). Anyway, thats my Jessica. How many more can we get? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sang_froid at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 19:37:00 1998 From: sang_froid at xxx.com (Claire Cairns) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:37:00 PDT Subject: Sinister: Camp Murphy Message-ID: <19981020183700.19423.qmail@hotmail.com> >this is fun....spot the "Jessica's"... >well i announce myself #5...i'm Jessica F., nice to meet ya all... Seems to be a popular name. I used to go to school with a guy who called himself Jessica at the weekend (and sometimes during the evening). I think his name was Bryan Murphy - not a very camp name for a very, very camp person (at least, camp for Coatbridge). Anyway, thats my Jessica. How many more can we get? PS. Sorry if this get sent a few times ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From csomeone at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 19:58:46 1998 From: csomeone at xxx.com (Cynthia Someone) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:58:46 PDT Subject: Sinister: smutfactor Message-ID: <19981020185847.23431.qmail@hotmail.com> While on the subject of smut, i just wanted to brighten your days up and tell you, nay, confess, that belle and sebby makes me want to have long-endurance sex. In the daytime. perhaps on a couch. particular songs that inspire this reflection: seeing other people, summer wasting, and rollercoaster ride. perhaps not even sex, just the kissing, clothes still on bit. with the clumsy, drowsy hands. more fantasy: the cat has politely relinquished his territory to the excess of male and flailing, rocking and rolling, a mysterious but not uncommon bed phenomenon , to his view. he is, actually, indifferent. he is neutered. That is not the point, however. the point is, my stereo can carry 5 CDs and has a continuous function, thus allowing me and imaginary lover 3-5 hours of musical pleasure, the majority of which may be belle and sebby. Incidentally, belle and sebby songs have yet to be introduced into sex life, but if it ever does, let it be some lovely sunny day, perhaps the first sunny day in Spring, after a snuggly and somewhat overheated noontime nap. Clothes on. messing around with clothes on sems so oddly appropriate for belle and sebby. That innocence, high school beautiful naive sex thing. just though i would point that out to you. Now have a lovely day. Cynthia ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Tue Oct 20 21:11:33 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:11:33 Subject: Sinister: Radio Session for UK+Ireland Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981020211133.404f904e@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Hi all, Robin always cries at endings : >And if someone could make me a copy of the French Radio session I >would be eternally grateful.... The tapes for UK and Ireland are now somewhere between frogland and the beautiful isles. The lucky winners : duke of harringay kenny Barrett Ronan Carly wrote > And o! sandra >will be a VERY happy bunny soon, i'm sure because of beautiful Phillipe >and his fabulous french sessions!!! Beautiful Philippe (with one L and 2 P, because he is lovely) will send the tapes for USA+Canada within 2 days. And then Germany+Thailand. And then Uranus+Halley's comet Anna, from Sweden had a problem with her radio station : >They said French radio hadn't finished the recording >in time (which is odd since it's already been on French radio) and they >wouldn't set a new date until they had the very tape in their hands, so I >guess this just means some more waiting It is wicked to say such silly things about my favourite radio, and my favourite Bernard Lenoir's Show ! You have to be very kind if you want to get a tape from me... John, some days ago : >Nick Dastoor was not alone at being impressed by the grooviness of Mon. >Lenoir's radio slogan. I thought it was fab! What would be the >equivalent on Radio 1 here in the U of K, I wondered... > >"Le plague of locusts...Le plague of Boils...C'est Chris Moyles..."?? I've added 2 slogans at the beginning and at the end of the session. Le rock... le soir... c'est Lenoir ! 2 times for the same price ! Oups, 9 o'clock now, I have to go home to listen to Bernard Lenoir ! Philippe, who boy with the dub machine +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk Tue Oct 20 21:14:01 1998 From: elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk (Elizabeth Daplyn) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:14:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Oooh, 'ello! Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From tinystar at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 21:39:18 1998 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:39:18 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Re: taking your pez out in public. Message-ID: >i really don't think that there should be any problems at belle and seb. >with rough housing, do you? that would just ruin my night. i shan't be >wearing a nametag though. I like my pez... it may have as much to do >with belle and seb as a nametag (i.e. nothing) but the whole idea was to >be sweet and lovely to everyone at the show (what's wrong with a little >candy) and it was the first idea tossed out and no one objected... (and >it sort of had a funny to-do about the idea of having belle and seb. >pez-- did you get those posts?) but no one's going to stop anyone from >wearing a little name tag or anything. >so, bottom line is do as you >please-- but why not suggest your idea as yet another option instead of >just something to do "in place" of someone else's idea because you >personally don't like it... i never said i personally didn't like the idea of pez, all i said was that i don't want my pez to get dirty or broken or dropped or anything. and i didn't say to wear name tags instead of pez, i said that i had just thought of nametags. i never said 'poo on the pez idea, let's all boycott and leave our pez at home and only wear fabulous nametags'. it will be fun to see other people's pezzes (is that a word?), i just don't feel comfortable bringing mine. which was what i said in my message. yeesh, it makes no difference to me if everyone brings their hello kitty lunchboxes AND pez AND wears odd coloured socks, and nobody wears nametags. all it was was a suggestion, no need to take it so seriously. >ps sorry about your "inferiority complex" > >pez pushin' jamie. i see no need to be snappish here. i was just trying to joke a little, that i hope if people will wear nametags they won't be full of glitter and neon lights to show other people up. the same as not rubbing your pez in someone's face. that's all. jessica "Homer, you've got it set on 'whore'." **************************************************** Someone had spied on us, I suppose, as we sat beside the canal and ate the sandwiches, drinking not even orangeade or Coca-Cola but hot milk out of a thermos. *************************************************** t i n y s t a r @ w o r l d y . c o m +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vegasbaby at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 21:35:18 1998 From: vegasbaby at xxx.com (Courtney Knopf) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:35:18 PDT Subject: Sinister: It's Howdy Doody Time Message-ID: <19981020203519.19025.qmail@hotmail.com> yeah, it's tuesday again. so you know what that means; 12-4am tonight listen to my radio show in Real Audio at http://kscr.usc.edu (or if you have problems with the site, open http://kscr.usc.edu/live.ram in your Real Player). feel free to email me some requests or you can call the studio at 213.740.1483. call me! ~Courtney ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Tue Oct 20 22:15:07 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 22:15:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: 2 Kings! CHEAT! Bastard... *picks up cards* Message-ID: Hello my young badgers! Expect a fond two days note of leave from meee as I'm going to LONDON for 2 days! I have to go and see a 40 pound musical (FUCKING HELL, how on earth do they justify charging 40 odd quid for Lloyd Webber iamthespawnofsatan man?!) and accompany my father to 'an event'.... BUT poo to that for now, for I have pressing news of an urgent manner. The list member formerly known to you as Gary, has CHANGED both his name and career! he has given up badger watching for the worthy lifestyle of rockstar, oh yes. he will start his brilliant career (hoohoo) tomorrow, with his cover of Brimful Of Asha....with slightly different lyrics that we thought o dahn the pub..... "Theres some grim looking badgers down the tut'n'shive, Peter Millers got a balsawood dildo..." I can assure the good man miller has name only popped up, 'cos I was collaborating with the OTHER titan of welsh rockiness upon your Pync Roc Cymraeg tape :) Would I make allegations abotu someone who calls themselves Bobby Chariot? OH NO! I am so talking poo, I shall leave and come back after being dazed by the razzle and dazzle and POLOS FOR FIFTY PEE YOU ARE TAKING THE PISS MATE lights of london! adios then... I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Candarel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mdellima at xxx.com Tue Oct 20 22:48:31 1998 From: mdellima at xxx.com (mark del lima) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:48:31 -0700 Subject: Sinister: TBWTAS just reviewed on NPR's "Fresh Air" (nfm) Message-ID: <199810202141.OAA18484@scv3.apple.com> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 0291942a01 at xxx.es Wed Oct 21 00:05:24 1998 From: 0291942a01 at xxx.es (Jordi Trenzano Vilar) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:05:24 +-100 Subject: Sinister: Lonely or what ? Message-ID: <01BDFC88.91E508A0@Abonado-195-53-41-114.cat.es> After two or three weeks of being in the list, I have a little question to do: Is there any spanish sinisterite in the list ? or South-American ? Please, let me know. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From barzy at xxx.com Wed Oct 21 01:02:57 1998 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:02:57 -0800 Subject: Sinister: B&S piece on Fresh Air Message-ID: Strange me here ticking away...working ...working..radio mumbling the news and stuff in the background and then I *swear* that I heard bla bla bla Stuart Murdoch bla bla bla...and LO! There's a piece on Belle And Sebastian on National Public Radio's "Fresh Air"...I know there have been NPR bits before..but it was silly..sweet...cute..nice. Like B&S for dummies. B&S 101. Stock brokers and business people all over are writing on little pieces of paper "things to get, Bell and Sebastan." Well....not that they're dumb..but maybe they don't know how to spell it just yet. My imagination runs away with me. I want to go home. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Wed Oct 21 00:39:50 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 19:39:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: must be 18+ to read this post Message-ID: i have been shocked, simply *shocked* at today's postings. it's just gotten smuttier and smuttier today, and i'm not sure whether i should blame mr miller or mr leonard for this. first this nice girl's mother said: At 12:20 PM 10/20/98, Charlotte Hall wrote: > My mum came to stay last weekend and I played her TBWTAS. She said "Is > this Belle and Sebastian?" She's never heard them except from me. But > then she leads a sheltered life with her Radio Four and her clay and her > recorder pupils. I thought she'd like the recorder playing in the title > song but she had a few things to say about the tonguing technique. maybe i'm reading too much into this, but why does your mother know so much about isobel's (or is it sarah?) tonguing technique? i think her life is less sheltered than you may imagine. then someone who is burt renyolds wrote: >Stuart Murdoch - sin'in' guitar, trumpet apparently now, fo' de twin >lead >trumpet effect. >Isobel Campbell - sin'in', cello, various >Sarah Martin - violin, weird wahtahmelluns >Stevie Buckwheatson - Guitar, piano, sin'in'. allright, i think we all knew that some sinin' was going on, but what's with the "weird wahtahmelluns"? that doesn't sound very nice. and finaly, cynthia just came right out and said it: >While on the subject of smut, i just wanted to brighten your days up and >tell you, nay, confess, that belle and sebby makes me want to have >long-endurance sex. In the daytime. perhaps on a couch. particular songs >that inspire this reflection: seeing other people, summer wasting, and >rollercoaster ride. all i can say is that you all are a very horny lot. perhaps you should talk to stuart david, as i hear he knows of some excellent porn sites. otherwise, maybe some people *should* show up on honey's front doorstep naked. i'm sure he'd know just what to do. xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Arigreen23 at xxx.com Wed Oct 21 01:01:43 1998 From: Arigreen23 at xxx.com (Arigreen23 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 20:01:43 EDT Subject: Sinister: philly/ B & S on the radio/and so on... Message-ID: Three days til philly, whoohoo! WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE MEET-UPS? I'm sorry, i'm not caught up with my sinisters...is the party-meet up still on? On a nice note...I heard B & S coming home today, on Princeton radio 103.3 (i think it's the college)...they played "get me away..." and the dj said it was one of his favorite songs, or something. nice to hear once, although if they played it nonstop that would not be good. Has everyone seen the B & S article in CMJ new music magazine? ari +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From oxygen at xxx.edu Wed Oct 21 02:31:43 1998 From: oxygen at xxx.edu (sad tomato) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:31:43 -0700 Subject: Sinister: disney in the uk Message-ID: <199810210131.SAA04423@uclink.berkeley.edu> hello. this is post #, erm, 2 from me. i must have gotten lost in the shuffle, cause i only posted once before, and havent been able to do so since. it is 6 pm here in berkeley, california, but i just got back from an extended weekend trip to central florida and it really feels like 9 pm, and i have been up and about since 5 am on shuttle buses and airplanes and BARTs and buses. i wanted to write because my boyfriend and i went to EPCOT center in the fabled disneyworld, and easily half of the thousands of people at this theme park were british. how could i tell this? well, first of all, in each family group there would be at least one individual wearing a soccer jersey (or FOOTBALL for you cultural imperialist/centrist types) or t-shirt. after coming within hearing distance, i would discern that they were definitely not americans and displayed one of the many british speech types. and they were usually the ones with incredibly white legs and painfully red faces and necks. after the afternoon had passed i came to feel like a tourist in my own country. well, yes, i WAS a tourist in my own country, but what i really mean was that i felt like a tourist in another country, like unbeknownst (how the hell does one spell this?) to me, i was magically transported (through disney imagineering of course) to EPCOT center somewhere in an incredible hot and humid part of the british isles. so this leads me to ask three questions: 1. does everyone in the uk really own at least one soccer jersey? 2. have any of you non-american listers been to the evil disney parks, and what do you think about them? 3. was there some sort of big british holiday this past weekend that i didnt know about and would explain why orlando, florida was swamped with brits? i shant be going to any of those belle and sebastian shows, since california apparently isnt important enough to rate a stop this time around (but athens is, right? yep.) i am not looking forward to yer deluge of show reviews, as i am the sort that likes to keep these things to myself, but please indulge yerself and have fun, knowing that for every one of you there are 5 or so of us poor souls who arent watching a belle and sebastian show anytime soon. maybe i will eat some pez one night and wear daisies another night anyway. this is robin signing out. out of so many jessicas, there are at least two "robins" here. i am the one in lowercase letters....not cause i am all pretentious-e.e. cummings-outdated-crap, but because i am too lazy to depress the " shift" button all the time for capitol letters. (i do like "je t'aime...moi non plus" also. it is so sexy!) nihil sub sole novum. robin. Blood oranges grow well in Florida, but they frighten American women. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Greekesque at xxx.com Wed Oct 21 02:52:01 1998 From: Greekesque at xxx.com (Greekesque at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:52:01 EDT Subject: Sinister: wasting the summer away. Message-ID: <8f53294.362d3e41@aol.com> hello list! you may remember me from last summer. well, i'm back, and i'm ______er then ever. did anyone else enjoy their summer as much as i did? it's like, i'm always thinking about the past, like the last late summer of zoot's cafe, my girlfriend, and emo, then a couple late summer's ago and that stephine plunket girl... ug... anyways.. the more i thought about it, this summer was the bomb. expecialy the later part, (like i've been mumbling about). i wrote a poem; running track and tangerines ice water and his story. should i change ice water, to isobel? don't know... but i'm glad i'm back. i'm also visiting greece and italy in feb, and i want to know the inside-indie scoop. ok, bye bye.. love; christian jay sienkiewicz +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gweight at xxx.Edu Wed Oct 21 06:43:47 1998 From: gweight at xxx.Edu (Gregory M. Weight) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 98 00:43:47 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Newbie Message-ID: <199810210444.AAA28839@copland.udel.edu> just thought i'd introduce myself...if this whole kind of thing bores you, just delete me....i promise i won't be offended. bio: graduate student in english lit at the univ. of delaware. originally from seattle. was in england once for a semester at oxford. while there, saw the sundays in norwich. music: last concert i saw was the cowboy junkies. last cd i bought was saint etienne's "good humor." cds currently in my cd changer are jeff buckley's "sketches for my sweetheart the drunk," luscious jackson's "fever in fever out," prodigy's "fat of the land," garbage's "garbage," & the innocence mission's "glow." cds currently in my car cd changer are liz phair's "whitechocolatespaceegg," "tbwtas," tori amos's "from the choirgirl hotel," neil finn's "try whistling this," cowboy junkies' "miles from home," and pj harvey's "is this desire?". if you want to find out more about yours truly, check out my web page at http://www.english.udel.edu/gweight and what is this about a meeting at the philadelphia show? please give me details privately. there'll be 4 of us buying up everything in sight..... GMW +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Wed Oct 21 09:06:59 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:06:59 Subject: Sinister: Gainsbourg/Lenoir Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981021090659.2eb70dee@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Robin always smiles at endings : >(i do like "je t'aime...moi non plus" also. it is so sexy!) Sexy is the word! I guess songs by Serge Gainsbourg are a good matter to learn french (and love?). I remember that the dj at the belle&sebastian gig in London played some songs by Gainsbourg ("Harley Davidson" at the end of the show). And don't forget Jane Birkin! Yesterday night, Bernard Lenoir (you know, the black session...) broadcasted 2 songs by Salako. After the first one, he said it was too short, so he gave us a second one, which is not usual for Bernard. Is'nt it lovely ? Last week he played a Looper's song. I think Bernard likes Jeepster's bands quite a lot. And that's why I like Bernard Lenoir very much also:) Philippe, the frencheese +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Wed Oct 21 08:55:10 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (Jake) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:55:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: When is Bernie on? Message-ID: <199810210757.IAA26242@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Hi there all, As you may see I have at last figured out how to alter those pescy emails settings, and I am no longer Kenny, sorry all! A new start and all that. Anyway, what I was really wanting to know was what times is Bernard Lenoir on? and on what frequency? Philipp's tales of B&S, salako, and espically my fav's Looper and making me desperate to get a listen. Does he also play French indie music? I thought that someone would help me find the station, I live in the south so reception shouldn't be too much of a problem. Sad tomato wrote. > 1. does everyone in the uk really own at least one soccer jersey? No but sometimes it feel like it, and I'm sure there are some people who have many to make up for those of us who have none. Jake (the artist formerly known as Kenny) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Oct 20 20:00:48 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:00:48 +0200 Subject: Sinister: More Than a Feeling Message-ID: <01bdfc5b$f31b0660$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Charlotte piped up: On a lighter note, may I add my voice to the general clamour for more Rod on the list? Rod, where are you? If the Boston gig is tomorrow, Rodderick should be arriving in that fair city on Friday. Do you think I'd forget something like that? I can't wait for the e-mail resurrection of that great TV programme "Entertainment USA" with Jonathan King. I also look forward to finding out whether or not the Cheers bar is the same inside as it is on the telly. But enough of this frivolity, I'm very concerned about the level of smut on the list. It all started out as a bit of light-hearted fun, but there's always someone who has to go too far and push back the boundaries of public decency. Just look at this: Five days, that's all. Please Tag, keep your filthy thoughts under wraps. All you ever think about is your Captain Mainwaring and pleasure. Carrick wrote: I get things all mixed up, sometimes. There are days I would like to be a mod, but unfortunately I am cursed/blessed with the Roger Daltrey hair problem. Rather curly and bushy. And I'm not about to iron it! This hair texture is much better suited to being a folkie. No need to iron your hair, Carrick. Roger Daltry used a product called Dippity Doo. Well, one assumes it was a product. You boys running around in search of Duke's grimly fiendish goth manual "Young and Ghoulish" should get with it. The book can be ordered from the Duke himself for two pounds less than in the shops, details on the Tangents website, which now boasts a "shop" and an article about chickens in popular music. I sent my order off yesterday, with a special request that the Duke scribble my name on the end of the acknowledgments page. I suggest you all do likewise. I do indeed like Denim. There's nothing like it to get everyone to do the splits and piss on the dancefloor. You really must post more often, Anne. Keith wrote: Carrick, your Roger Daltrey hair goes down very well with me, and I expect Mr.Miller too, being great WHO fans as we said for several months on end boring everyone to tears. Is your hair the 70's incarnation of Roger Daltrey? If so, it's even better. Does anyone know if the 70's WHO plan on releasing any new albums in the near future? It's been a while since the last one. Well, Keith, there's still talk of a live box set, but we've got Pete's autobiography to look froward to as well, should be a laugh. You'll be disappointed to hear that I've failed to lure Ooooon into the WHO fanclub with my signature tune. She claims she's not the right shape for ROCK. Pity. Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Wed Oct 21 11:12:08 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:12:08 Subject: Sinister: C'est Lenoir Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981021111208.290f3814@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Jake (or is it Kenny ?) asked : >Anyway, what I was really wanting to know was what times is Bernard Lenoir >on? and on what frequency? >Philipp's tales of B&S, salako, and espically my fav's Looper and making me >desperate to get a listen. Does he also play French indie music? AM 162 kHz. 9.45-10.30pm (Paris), 8.45-9.30 (London) It starts at 9.30pm when there is a black session. The next black sessions : 22.oct.98 Hefner (tomorrow!) 27.oct.98 Placebo 17.nov.98 Boo Radleys Have a look at Lenoir's web : http://www.radio-france.fr/inter/lenoir/summary.html Go to the "Playlist" pages to get an idea of ... the playlists. As an example, last monday he played : Tindersticks: A marriage made in heaven Hefner: The sad witch Placebo: 20th century boy Pulp: We are the boys Mercury Rev: Holes Snowpony: Snow white Mitchell Froom: watery eyes (feat. Mark Eitzel) Mitchell Froom: Dopamine (feat. Suzanne Vega) Depeche Mode: Only when I lose myself (Gus Gus remix) Sing Sing: Feels like summer Actually, Bernard Lenoir does not play much french indie music. As far as the black sessions are concerned, a few acknowledgements: - to Loic and Gwendal who gave me the tape of the belle&sebastian's black session. - to Laurent who took the photos I enclosed with the tapes I've just sent to you (3 photos, one showing Stuart M playing the trumpet). These photos are available on the Lenoir's web. - to Bernard Lenoir for his comments between the songs :) - to the audience for clapping (I was there!) - to my dubbing machine - and TO THE BAND of course, for the magic session! Philippe, who dub and don't stop +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Wed Oct 21 11:16:05 1998 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:16:05 +0200 Subject: Sinister: delay Message-ID: <362DB465.F8CF8F99@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Dear all, i want to give my share about Nutella. Sorry for my delay but this days i had a slight temperature. Nutella is one of the most beautiful invention of the word.I know friends that grew up with bread and nutella ( one of this is my great friend Passi ). Nutella is italian product and i am fierce of it. B&S content: i read that the next year will come out a new film " the acid house " where B&S take a part ( like soundtrack).I'm glad cause this result is prestigious for this great scottish band . In november we can found Slow graffiti on sale ( in the soundtrack of the film) , i know this song cause i have this in a tape " radio session one", a very beautiful song. That's all. Marco#7. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Orangsickl at xxx.com Wed Oct 21 11:12:12 1998 From: Orangsickl at xxx.com (Orangsickl at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 06:12:12 EDT Subject: Sinister: disney in the uk Message-ID: <497a1423.362db37c@aol.com> oxygen at uclink4.berkeley.edu writes << i wanted to write because my boyfriend and i went to EPCOT center in the fabled disneyworld, and easily half of the thousands of people at this theme park were british. how could i tell this? well, first of all, in each family group there would be at least one individual wearing a soccer jersey (or FOOTBALL for you cultural imperialist/centrist types) or t-shirt >> OH!, I live in Orlando and the British tourist can always be spotted by a flock of people who have tomato red faces and who wear Adidas jumpsuit thingys. They also NEVER tip at restaurants for some reason and usually they are the type of tourist to wear boxer shorts (usually looking like they date from the 1980s) as regular shorts. Not to stereotype all British people or anything. . . (besides, I think everyone on the list is kind enough to ALWAYS tip their waitress or waiter) andy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aszolnoki at xxx.com Wed Oct 21 11:26:32 1998 From: aszolnoki at xxx.com (Andras Zalan Szolnoki) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 03:26:32 PDT Subject: Sinister: Boy in the snow Message-ID: <19981021102633.7633.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello Everyone!!! It�s snowing outside and............ well I don�t know what really , but it makes me feel down , and I won�t be able to listen to neither of my lovely B&S-records today..ahhhhhhhhhhhh , a really sad state of affairs. The only pluss is that I�m going to see a pakistani "folk"-group (supposed to be the next big thing after the tragic death of the beloved Nusrat ). And maybe I buy some lovely cheese on my way home....... Has anyone on the list some good + effective remedies for winter-depp-s ????? Takecarenowbyebyeallyoulovelypeople Szola ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From A.Ward at xxx.uk Wed Oct 21 13:23:46 1998 From: A.Ward at xxx.uk (Anne Ward) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:23:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Searching for the young soul rebels Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981021132346.009ac510@scooter.gcal.ac.uk> Hello there Going back to Divine mix tapes - Peter, you've got nothing to worry about. The northern soul ones (called "Soul time", and inventively "Soul time again") are very good, but they aren't mixed because there's not a lot of point mixing old records that tend to have a proper start and finish, not like some of that new-fangled dance music. You can tell they've been done on two decks though as there isn't a five second gap and a big clunking noise between songs, like when I do it. Still, a mix-off between PJ "and Duncan" Miller and Andrew "Hot Pants" Divine would surely be a big attraction at the Sinister soul weekender. Are we still having one? When I was in an uncharacteristically good mood the other day I almost offered to copy the tapes for all those people asking about northern soul. Then I realised that's a bit mad when there are 700 of you and you can probably make your own if you cobble together enough of those Kent compilations. However, if anyone wants to offer a really good swap, like a tape of all those B&S things that everyone's always talking about and I've never heard, or anything by the Love Unlimited Orchestra, who I'm right into just now, they're yours. Plus, I've got a question. Does anyone know who sings a song that starts "There are stars and there are German cars"? It might be called "I'm not built for this". Someone at work has given me a tape to play name that tune with and it's the only one I'm stuck on. They should have given it to Keith. Ta ra for now. Anne xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Wed Oct 21 14:28:49 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:28:49 Subject: Sinister: german cars Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981021142849.3377e1f8@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Anna wonders : >Plus, I've got a question. Does anyone know who sings a song that starts >"There are stars and there are German cars"? Stars... german cars...it could be a song about Mercedes Benz cars... so mayby it is a tribute to Lady Di ... you know, as this song by The Divine Comedy (Generation Sex)... Forget this, it's wicked french humour. Philippe, crash test dummy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbgustat at xxx.net Wed Oct 21 13:27:58 1998 From: mbgustat at xxx.net (Mike) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:27:58 -0400 Subject: Sinister: LA2NYSFback2BOSTON!! Message-ID: <01BDFCCC.B61E2A00.mbgustat@idt.net> Has anyone decided on a site in Boston to meet this evening? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MctaggartR at xxx.com Wed Oct 21 13:16:10 1998 From: MctaggartR at xxx.com (Mctaggart, Robert) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:16:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: sleep, that's where I'm a Viking Message-ID: Hello, Trying to fill the gap between now and landing at Toronto airport is proving very difficult, so if you'll indulge me again... Charlotte wrote: >My mum came to stay last weekend and I played her TBWTAS. She said >"Is this Belle and Sebastian?" She's never heard them except from >me. My mother keeps referring to them as the Jesus and Sebastian Chain. Last night she called them Jesus and Elisabeth. She gets a little confused, but I love her. Oh, Charlotte, can I take the oppurtunity to apologise for my Ralph Wiggum-like reaction to meeting you in London. "Tag, this is Charlotte". "Errr, I've got a cat called Charlotte". I've been embarrassed about that ever since, if it's any consolation. Corpora wrote: >Cut me some slack, Tag, I get the digest, if I'd known I'd sent it >three times I'd have apologized straight off. Now Corpie baby, I was just pulling your anaconda. But fair enough, the slack is being cut as I speak. You've started a trend, Claire's message appeared three times as well. You should be proud. >I think that's something everyone should aspire towards. Really. The >dignity and confidence part. Actually, I couldn't agree more. Confidence is not something everyone's blessed with, but dignity goes a very long way. I seriously doubt that anyone with any sense blames *all* men for the body fascism that exists in society, they may blame the patriarchy, but that's not the same. I think it probably goes without saying that anyone shallow enough to judge people purely on physical attributes deserves a really, really crap lovelife. I can't help wishing Corpora had found a more err... tasteful way of explaining himself first time around, but Mark C for one found his strange beeping noises and references to unpleasant diseases: >rib-tickling. ...so what do I know? donovan wrote >get there early for cocaine Actually he didn't. It just seemed that way. Sorry my name isn't Jessica. Love tag xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tdzF94 at xxx.edu Wed Oct 21 13:38:06 1998 From: tdzF94 at xxx.edu (The Trainspotter) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:38:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Boston for your day In-Reply-To: <362C273B.34BA8914@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Message-ID: Hey, how many of you are going to the boston show? do you want to have a meet up? also, are they going to have merch at the show? Shall I make the meet up kids b&s shrinky dinks? We could do what the pulp list (when it wasn't overtaken with 15 yr. old american kidswho like the spice girls more than life) did - everyone wore a ribbon on their wrist - I believe they were red - we could do purple or something, that way you'd know all the other listees. -teri http://hampshire.edu/~tdzF94/ - Inspired by the writings of the eighteeth century Venetian gambler, eroticist and spy. "The day didn't go too well. Too many chocolates and cigarettes, I kept thinking of you and almost walking into lampposts." Pulp "I may sit in a bar where the cocktails are but I really don't feel like talking I ride around and let the darkness fall 'cause I've got a sense of perfection and nothing else makes sense at all." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Wed Oct 21 13:54:36 1998 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 05:54:36 -0700 Subject: Sinister: The electric train of soft cylinder parts Message-ID: Someone, probably someone called Jessica, suggested getting down to some low down dirty sweaty squelchy stuff to a soundtrack of Belle and Sebastian. Surely the only music appropriate for such things is a smattering of Isaac Hayes (for preliminary smoochiness) followed by the William Tell overture. Once you're done and you're grinning and glowing with your sweat and various other bodily fluids all sort of mingling together, that's probably the moment to put Belle and Sebastian on. Charlotte said something about tonguing technique, which I think should be discussed more fully. Then she called for the return of Rod, again this was something that needed to be said, in spite of his embarrassing problem. Incidentally, has anyone heard from that villain of vaudeville Espadrille since he fled the country and took up residence on the side of a volcano? Keith, the FAQ is great (especially in jive) but it still doesn't answer the St Lucy question. Did anyone else ever watch the wrestling on ITV? Not the WWF stuff, the old UK wrestling with Big Daddy and Giant Haystacks that they used to show until the mid-eighties. Great wasn't it. Oh, that wasn't what I meant to say at all. Do you remember the wrestler called Catweasel? You do? Well, that was Adrian Evans. No, really. Just ask him. Shame Manchester's off, I was looking forward to giving Evans another menacing. Kevan The Fat Slug *********************************** chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickclick.com http://www.chickmail.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From arantxa at xxx.es Wed Oct 21 14:59:50 1998 From: arantxa at xxx.es (Aranzazu Sanz Garcia) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:59:50 METDST Subject: Sinister: humming B&S songs... Message-ID: <199810211259.OAA24767@hpc100.gdc.tat.upm.es> Hello list : well, especially hello to Marc (Casarotto) and Robin (Stout) Probably most of you read Marc's message yesterday where he said something like : 'I am still yet to meet anyone one on the street or on the train(I don't do buses)...'Hey,Marc, I do buses and if Robin also does , and not trains, perhaps we are bound to meet any day,as I just realised we are at the same Uni (Nottingham) which is not so large, and the whole city is not very big deal, either. So Robin, if I heard someone at the top deck (in the 12, for example) la-la-la-ing one morning some B&S tune,I will look back ,not as Dylan would do,and I know it will be you the one I am after! To the few compatriots in the list : 'estaba esperando la casualidad de mi vida ', Ana, 'los amantes del Circulo Polar' la habeis visto ? no os parece maravillosa? Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samiamx at xxx.com Wed Oct 21 14:02:07 1998 From: samiamx at xxx.com (Sam Devere) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 06:02:07 PDT Subject: Sinister: Tix for DC Show and Noodle Threads Message-ID: <19981021130207.21466.qmail@hotmail.com> If anyone has extra tix for the DC show, please let me know. I'm interested in at least two... To piggy-back on previous threads...one of my fave magazines is the Big Takeover. They are rather opinionated, but offer loads of mostly indie reviews. Regarding the Julie Christie thread, Stephen Duffy wrote a song titled 'Julie Christie' in the mid-80s. This is when he sounded aweful. Does anyone remember 'Kiss Me'? I saw the Lucksmiths in DC a few weeks ago. I thought they were very good. The singer (Marty?) had a huge grin on his face the whole show. Those lads need to drink some more beer or something cause the three of them combined can't weigh more than a buck-o-five -- no offence to the skinnies on the list. I loved the live version of 'Jewel Thieves' -- such great guys it's hard to believe. Saw Dweezil Zappa and Lisa Loeb (ok it was a free ticket for some hi falutin Democratic party affair). They played solo, she with an acoustic, he with electric. It was rather amusing because he kept throwing in these Van Halen riffs in the middle of Lisa delicate strumming and all the drunk democrats were clueless. Regarding the similarity between the Trash Can Sinatras 'Unfortunate Age' and the B&S song, there's an even stronger correlation with a Northern Picture Library song off 'Alaska'. I believe it's song eleven. The intro piano piece (which is about 6 seconds long) is identical, I'm surpised that TCS were able to get away with it. Sam 'Like the books we've strummed We're dog eared and well-thumbed' - Trash Can Sinatras ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Wed Oct 21 14:53:40 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid Dossinger) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:53:40 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Will they ever see the real you? Message-ID: <362DE764.3EA0B7EB@bigfoot.com> Just call me "far behind". Actually, I prefer "Reid", but I digress...I only just this past morning read the issue of Chickfactor that had the interviews with Sarah and Isobel. Very interesting. Isobel...well, she did say that she considered "talking" to be her biggest vice, but a lot of times, her answers just plain didn't make sense. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and put it down to nervousness. Sarah's interview was much better. She came across as a hard-drinking sweetie, and just as adorably vulnerable as you might expect a B&S member to be. One thing she brought up, though (and I've wondered about this before) is that none of the B&Sers were happy with Sinister, but, as usual, didn't say why. Has anyone else heard of any reasons that they were unhappy with this album. I think there's a lot more to be unhappy about with The Boy. I love it, of course, but if you want to find mistakes and a truck-load of things that need to be fixed, that's the album. The fact that Sarah said that they all want to try really hard to make a classic album makes the mistakes on The Boy that much more baffling. Again, it's a wonderful album and it's not at all ruined, but...I just wonder how they let so many faults slip by. And the digest is buried deep somewhere in my Trash folder, but someone mentioned that she thinks that Isobel, Stevie and Stuart D.'s songs, while very good, are really inferior to Stuart M.'s, and I'd just like to agree. I like all of those songs (the music to Chickfactor, esp), but I consider Stuart Murdoch to be one of the greatest songwriters of the past 20 years, and the other stuff just doesn't (just *can't*) measure up. Should those songs have been left off the album? I don't know...I kind of like the *idea* of it being more of a band effort. But...well, my point's made. On to other things... Some westerner wrote: > i shant be going to any of those belle and sebastian shows, since california > apparently isnt important enough to rate a stop this time around (but athens > is, right? yep.) > Actually, I'm kind of surprised that this is the first time that someone publicly wondered *why* Belle and Sebastian are playing in Athens. To keep it short, it is simply one of the coolest towns on the East Coast. And I'm so proud of our little Belles and Sebastians for not avoiding the South like most UK bands do. Athens is not a tiny little hick town which, if I'm not wrong, the above quote implies. It's an hour from a city you might have heard of called Atlanta (another great place) and is home to the University of Georgia. And in case you weren't in the know, there's a few good bands and songwriters from Athens, some of which you may have even heard of. So yes, Athens IS important enough to rate a stop, thank you. What with Rod going to Boston and Tag going to Toronto, it seems that a hefty chunk of the UK Sinisterinos are right jet-setters. As I so often do after reading a digest, I feel inadequate. Okay, so part of the time I feel inadequate and part of the time I feel superior. But today I feel inadequate. And I thought I was special just for taking my hard-earned vacation days to drive to Athens and DC! Not hardly... Nutella tip: spread inside a flour tortilla and heated up just a little. Mmmmm....multi-cultural. Then again, I could make a meal out of a stack of warm flour tortillas. I not very smutty, so I don't have much to share on that front. Sorry... Uh, if this message gets delievered three times, then, uh, I meant it and if you don't like it I'll fight ya. Grrrrr! The State Fair's a day away, Reid +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eyh96 at xxx.edu Wed Oct 21 15:19:50 1998 From: eyh96 at xxx.edu (remaniac) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:19:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Boston for your day In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, The Trainspotter wrote: > more than life) did - everyone wore a ribbon on their wrist - I believe > they were red - we could do purple or something, that way you'd know all > the other listees. ribbons are a spiffy idea. how about any color, though, since the boston show is coming up so soon (!!!) --emily +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cp83985 at xxx.edu Wed Oct 21 15:42:47 1998 From: cp83985 at xxx.edu (Carl Polgar Jr) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:42:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: kurt vonnegut Message-ID: this is not a request for tickets -- well . . . shit . . . i guess it is -- but not for belle and sebastian tickets. anyway, someone wrote a while back ago that kurt vonnegut was going to be speaking at the university of georgia on the same day as the belle and sebastian show and i was wondering if anyone had any information on how to get a ticket to this event. also, if tickets can be purchased, how close is the university to the 40-watt club? my girlfriend has been dying to meet vonnegut for several years now (we missed him by a day when we vacationed in berkeley last year), and to meet him and see belle and sebastian on the same day would just be divine. any help would be greatly appreciated. also, in the same way that there is a register on the mailing list web page for original copies of tigermilk, should one be started for people named jessisca? carl cp83985 at pegasus.cc.ucf.edu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Augury7 at xxx.com Wed Oct 21 16:10:05 1998 From: Augury7 at xxx.com (Augury7 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:10:05 EDT Subject: Sinister: Boy in the snow Message-ID: <9deee3dd.362df94d@aol.com> >>>Has anyone on the list some good + effective remedies for winter-depp- s????? This may sound crazy, but if you cut a lemon in half and smell it every so often, it does a good job of getting rid of that "down" feeling. smelling sprigs of rosemary works just as well, maybe even better sometimes. oh and try lavender, too. the scents are really invigorating and help perk you up. or: you can go to a psychiatrist who might diagnose you as having seasonal affect disorder and prescribe this special kind of light box for you to look at. i don't know about that; my doctor told me about it and i thought that i would just stick to rosemary and lemons. if anyone has had any experience with the light box thing, though, i would be interested in hearing about it. they're coming up wih all sorts of crazy things to rid people of depression these days.... good luck getting over the winter blahs.... susan xoxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Wed Oct 21 16:16:02 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:16:02 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Oh my God! Jake killed Kenny! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Mctaggart, Robert wrote: > > confused, but I love her. Oh, Charlotte, can I take the oppurtunity to > apologise for my Ralph Wiggum-like reaction to meeting you in London. > "Tag, this is Charlotte". "Errr, I've got a cat called Charlotte". > I've been embarrassed about that ever since, if it's any consolation. While he's at it, can I apologise for the fact that when I met Charlotte in London just about the first thing I asked was her age? Very ungentlemanly. I blame it on the amount I'd had to drink by that point. Oh well. And while people are talking about making sweet love (down by the fire?) to the sound of B&S, I would just like to say that Nick Drake's music is the best knicker-elastic lubricant known to man. Has that lowered the tone sufficiently for you all? Jessica +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed Oct 21 16:23:52 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:23:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: sordid perv shocka Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22289EFC@server1.HITEntertainment.com> My reading of the "thrush from licking railings" lines was that said heroine was bending over, her face pressed in imagined ecstasy against park railings as she was cruelly entered from behind by one of the many boys she was willing to get "in the mud, on her knees" for. The candida infection was, to me, just an unfortunate side-effect of the joy of giving. Honestly. This was the first song that made me believe that B&S weren't just innocent, cuddly-things-discussing virgins, but actually hot sex monsters (apart from Mick Cooke, who I reckon is all mooth (and boy, what a mooth), but nae troosers). I was a bit shaken at first, but quickly realised that it's their ability to touch so poetically on all areas of life's experience that made me love them so much. Having said that, if anyone can enlighten me that LLPJ is about something other than a girl who's only way of enticing the attention of others, and thus proving her own self-worth, is by sleeping with them, please let me know. I've been accepting this version of events for the past nine months, and I find it quite a sad tale. Back to tales of puppy dogs and wee bunnies licking no railings at all, guv'ner, Mark xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iles at xxx.uk Wed Oct 21 17:54:22 1998 From: iles at xxx.uk (Mark Iles) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:54:22 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Philippe Message-ID: Philippe reminds us: >Beautiful Philippe (with one L and 2 P, because he is lovely) I think this should be included in the FAQ. It seems to crop up almost as often as "Can someone make me a copy of Tigermilk/Anyone got spare ticket for the NY show because my budgie wants to go" ;) Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ Mark Iles, Tel: +44 (0113) 2065042 Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Fax: +44 (0113) 2340183 Genetic Epidemiology Laboratory, Ashley Wing, Email: iles at boreas.leeds.icnet.uk St James's University Hospital, Beckett Street, Leeds, LS9 7TF U.K. ____________________________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tdzF94 at xxx.edu Wed Oct 21 16:59:28 1998 From: tdzF94 at xxx.edu (The Trainspotter) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:59:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Boston for your day In-Reply-To: Message-ID: hey kids, I'm going to buy some ribbon, actually I have tons of yarn. would yarn work? then if you see me before the show just ask for a piece. my pic is on my website. I also have this crazy yellow checkered 60s coat that i'll probably wearing. -teri http://hampshire.edu/~tdzF94/ - Inspired by the writings of the eighteeth century Venetian gambler, eroticist and spy. "The day didn't go too well. Too many chocolates and cigarettes, I kept thinking of you and almost walking into lampposts." Pulp "I may sit in a bar where the cocktails are but I really don't feel like talking I ride around and let the darkness fall 'cause I've got a sense of perfection and nothing else makes sense at all." On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, remaniac wrote: > > > On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, The Trainspotter wrote: > > > more than life) did - everyone wore a ribbon on their wrist - I believe > > they were red - we could do purple or something, that way you'd know all > > the other listees. > > ribbons are a spiffy idea. how about any color, though, since the > boston show is coming up so soon (!!!) > > --emily > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Charlotte.Hall at xxx.uk Wed Oct 21 17:05:36 1998 From: Charlotte.Hall at xxx.uk (Charlotte Hall) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:05:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: ...for I have sinned Message-ID: <00105AAD.CE21213@smlawpub.co.uk> On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Mctaggart, Robert wrote: > > confused, but I love her. Oh, Charlotte, can I take the opportunity to > apologise for my Ralph Wiggum-like reaction to meeting you in London. > "Tag, this is Charlotte". "Errr, I've got a cat called Charlotte". > I've been embarrassed about that ever since, if it's any consolation. Stuart Gardiner (skg21 at hermes.cam.ac.uk) wrote: >While he's at it, can I apologise for the fact that when I met Charlotte >in London just about the first thing I asked was her age? Very >ungentlemanly. I blame it on the amount I'd had to drink by that point. Oh >well. I'm now going for some kind of record for apologies on the list (four at the last count) from listees I met at Shepherd's Bush. All very nice, of course, but as I've already reassured Tag I have no recollection of being compared to a cat by Tag, didn't notice being bawled at by Rod, didn't feel insulted by JJ, and don't recall being asked my age by Stuart. The only apology I deserve is because the first cup of coffee tastes like washing up is now a week old. Thank you all for being so nice anyway... I must say that the apologies make a lovely change from any vitriol whihc might have been around not so long ago. I quite like the idea of a supplicating, apologising, penance paying list. Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa! Today's list penance for anything you might have done wrong is to sing a line of Belle & Sebastian to everyone you meet. Oh yes. Even the checkout girl at Sainsbury's. Tomorrow's list penance is devised by... Stuart Gardiner. I like this game. Charlotte +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Wed Oct 21 17:13:02 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:13:02 +0100 () Subject: Sinister: smutfactor In-Reply-To: <19981020185847.23431.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Cynthia Someone wrote: > > While on the subject of smut, i just wanted to brighten your days up and > tell you, nay, confess, that belle and sebby makes me want to have > long-endurance sex. In the daytime. perhaps on a couch. particular songs > that inspire this reflection: seeing other people, summer wasting, and > rollercoaster ride. > > perhaps not even sex, just the kissing, clothes still on bit. with the > clumsy, drowsy hands. > ha ha! i did it last night! and to seeing other people! bizarre you should mention it. sorry everyone who thinks the smut is going too far now (i suspect that Kevan and Marc are NOt among them though). but i just had to reply to this. Clothes on. messing around with clothes on sems so oddly > appropriate for belle and sebby. That innocence, high school beautiful > naive sex thing. just though i would point that out to you. Now have a > lovely day. yeah, that's so true. we had clothes on and everything and it was just perfect. i'd been a tad depressed but a bit of lovin' and the slow version of seeing other people off the radcliffe 96 sessions soon sorted me out. i'm really not going to go into any more detail (why do i keep regaling the list with stuff about my sex life recently anyway?) but mmmmmmm. right, i'm off for a cold shower. love (in a purely platonic sense) archel xx> > ______________________________________________________ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Wed Oct 21 18:33:42 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:33:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bod. Message-ID: <000301bdfd18$f26e4fc0$91567ec2@whelan> Mr Ian D Thompson ESQ wrote.... Gary wrote... >Lord Anthony did do Parkas, but they weren't like the "fish tail" parkas >that mods wear. I had an LA one when I was in Primary school, but then most >people did at the time. They were great, except when the hood was >completely zipped up so that the furry bit covered your face and got in your >mouth. As for ridicule, surely dragging people round the schoolyard by the >loop thing on the top/back of the hood was much more fun. You could also have hours of fun with Parkas if you actually used the built-in pen/pencil holder on the arm that prevented you from bending your elbows, doing groovy robot impressions. Added bonus if your mum had sewn your mittens thru the sleeves to reduce mobility even more. Ahh, great days. Hehehe, I only remembered about the ever so handy pen/pencil holder after I sent my post in. Hey, combined with a pair of idiot mittens with one mitten pulled significantly more through one arm of ya parka so you can belt people round the head with it, 70's school wear was lethal. Let's not forget the twang of pain the snake belt could bring if it fell into the wrong hands ?. The LAnt jackets i remember were kinda beigey "blouson" style jackets with cheesey tartan linings, zip-up pockets and elasticated wrists... it was required to wear brown corduroy trousers with them, preferably half masts, and to carry an old style leather-look brown satchel with broken buckles containing a half eaten marmite (or nutella?) sandwhich . Don't forget your Spangles and Bazooka Joe's. Oh and if you were outside school and looking a bit smart, surely a tank top designed with no due care or attention was standard ?. Hang on, seeing as we're talking about bad 70's kids fashions here, can I offer a word of advice to the Fluffyone, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT....you know what I mean. 87) Bye bye Gary +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Oct 21 18:07:25 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:07:25 +0200 Subject: Sinister: You Fill Up My Senses Like A Walk In The Forest Message-ID: <01bdfd15$46ac9d20$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Trousers! Call the cops! Someone's using my drag queen name! Are we still having listee of the month awards? If so, I vote for Cynthia. I'd kind of overlooked her in the past, but I can assure you it won't happen again. Cynthia is obviosuly a wonderful, warm-hearted human being with a keen appreciation of the true essence of Belle and Sebastian. Cynthia, I salute you. How long is long endurance? Lazy Line Painter Jane? The Rollercoaster Ride? I can just about manage Simple Things at a push if I've been taking my vitamin tablets properly. Anne wrote: Going back to Divine mix tapes - Peter, you've got nothing to worry about. The northern soul ones (called "Soul time", and inventively "Soul time again") are very good, but they aren't mixed because there's not a lot of point mixing old records that tend to have a proper start and finish, not like some of that new-fangled dance music. Phew! That's a relief. My tape will consist almost entirely of Kent compilations, but fortunately some of them are disc-dubbed, so they sound pretty shit anyway. I shall call my tape "Oh No - Not Soul Time Again!". "Theres some grim looking badgers down the tut'n'shive, Peter Millers got a balsawood dildo..." My friend Sarah wrote that, no doubt gurning at the same time, just like JO DUNNE and her trademark star-shaped sunglasses from We've Got a Fuzzbox and We're Gonna Use it. Will I be getting previously unreleased Alarm demos? Speaking of Fuzzbox, whatever happened to my hero, the extravagantly talented TED CHIPPINGTON? Brummie's rule, that's why I like Denim. Who wants a go with my balsawood dildo then? Tragically, I can't think of anything else to say, other than to repeat the other Arantxa's recommendation of the fantastic film "Los Amantes del Circulo Polar" by Julio Medem. It's got distribution in America, so at least some of you should be able to see it. You'll like it, it's even got a bit of wanking in it. Welcome aboard Arantxa. It is a strange coincidence that you are from Arantxalandia and you live in Nottingham, and I am from Nottingham (well, not far away) and I live in Arantxalandia. Gero arte, Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lapis at xxx.edu Wed Oct 21 19:08:38 1998 From: lapis at xxx.edu (dave cohen) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:08:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: France Gall Message-ID: <199810211808.OAA20666@pobox.upenn.edu> with all the talk of various french songstresses (unstressed) does anyone know of any video's of France Gall from her early days (say 1965-68) that are available? i once saw a collection of what i suppose could be described as early 'video jukebox' films that is to say 3 minute films made to appear in a small jukebox (sort of like amusical peepshow i suppose) there was one by Francoise Hardy (on a big rocking boat) but alas none by our lass France any help appreciated, --lapis lapis at pobox.upenn.edu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Oct 21 19:22:47 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:22:47 +0200 Subject: Sinister: The First Cup of Coffee Message-ID: <01bdfd1f$ce0094c0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Charlotte wrote: The only apology I deserve is because the > first cup of coffee tastes like washing up is now a week old. Thank > you all for being so nice anyway... I'm sorry Charlotte. Unfortunately I haven't got anything at all to say, apart from smut. I don't know what made me what I am today, and perhaps unsurprisingly, I couldn't give a monkey's toss. But I'll have a go, in verse form, at capturing the essence of my inner turmoil while growing up: Fair seed time had my soul And I grew up foster'd alike By beauty and by fear I hid from Doctor Who Behind the settee But watched Charlie's Angels Without any problems to speak of. I'm really really sorry Charlotte. You'll be pleased to learn that I'm getting dribs and drabs of work again now. I'm going to watch the football now. Galtassaray are playing. I must say that John Toshack's threat to leave Besiktas is going to do nothing to help the Turkish cleansweep campaign that I'm personally masterminding from my living room. Am I alone in preferring Peter Withe to Stan Collymore? Now there's someone who had a major influence on my formative years. A foul-mouthed Scouse donkey... Love from, Bobby Chariot +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Wed Oct 21 20:00:12 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:00:12 -0400 Subject: Sinister: boston show (tonight, baby!!!!) Message-ID: anyhoo, i don't post all that often, but i just thought i'd post to say that i'll be at the boston show with teri and emily, so i'd like all you fabulous listees to look out for us. we'll probably have string or something around our wrists, but just in case you don't notice that, i'll be wearing navy blue slacks that are a bit too large for me, a black fuzzy wool hooded coat, and a yellow tshirt that says "damn, i'm good!" on the front in glittery letters. oh, and i'm about 5 foot 5 and i have reddish brown hair. uhm, yeah. hope to see some of you there (that includes you, allison!) -kerry "there is something you should know: the girl of your dreams is here all alone." -morrissey, "southpaw" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Kbierfelt at xxx.org Wed Oct 21 20:16:00 1998 From: Kbierfelt at xxx.org (Kristin Bierfelt (MFA)) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:16:00 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Boston, sighhhhh Message-ID: < if anyone going to the show tonight in boston could give my friend aMy a big hug for me, it would be most appreciated. she's a big girl, you can't miss her. mark. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From smfisher at xxx.edu Wed Oct 21 20:37:36 1998 From: smfisher at xxx.edu (Stephanie) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:37:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Will they ever see the real you? In-Reply-To: <362DE764.3EA0B7EB@bigfoot.com> Message-ID: > Some westerner wrote: > > > i shant be going to any of those belle and sebastian shows, since california > > apparently isnt important enough to rate a stop this time around (but athens > > is, right? yep.) > > And then Reid, aka "far behind", wrote: > Actually, I'm kind of surprised that this is the first time that someone > publicly wondered *why* Belle and Sebastian are playing in Athens. To > keep it short, it is simply one of the coolest towns on the East Coast. > And I'm so proud of our little Belles and Sebastians for not avoiding > the South like most UK bands do. Athens is not a tiny little hick town > which, if I'm not wrong, the above quote implies. It's an hour from a > city you might have heard of called Atlanta (another great place) and is > home to the University of Georgia. And in case you weren't in the know, > there's a few good bands and songwriters from Athens, some of which you > may have even heard of. So yes, Athens IS important enough to rate a > stop, thank you. > Thank you thank you thank you! You are right about Athens being important enough for Belle & Sebby to stop at. And NO, I am NOT just saying that because I live there! Well, not entirely...but this is also the only southeast show, not counting Washington. And! There are *tons* of bands that go to California, or just play New York and maybe some other northeast cities. And I think Donovan or Katrina or David or some other person like that at one time mentioned they'd be touring the west coast in 1999. Or did I just dream that?? Well, I am sorry if I seem a bit defensive, it's just that SOME people (i.e. me) never have and will get to see most of their favourite bands--without traveling--so I am very glad I at least have the *opportunity* to see one of my favourites really soon. It's nice that for once some UK band at least considered Athens, or the entire southeast, definitely. And to Carl, who asked about Kurt Vonnegut...well, I don't know how to get tickets if you're a non-student, but the university is adjacent (?) to the downtown area. It's basically right across the street. It's about a 2-3 minute drive (if that much, probably less) and if needed you could even walk from the campus to the 40 Watt. Smut content: umm...none for today Cheers & love, Stephanie "Even when I was a tiny girl, I preferred being alone...I could give my imagination free rein and live in a world of lovely dreams"--Greta Garbo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From csomeone at xxx.com Wed Oct 21 21:06:39 1998 From: csomeone at xxx.com (Cynthia Someone) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:06:39 PDT Subject: Sinister: too happy to speak Message-ID: <19981021200639.25199.qmail@hotmail.com> Cynthia, I salute you. PJ- i salute you back. imagine me as a blonde bombshell with navy cap and silly, redlipped glossy smile a la WWII. You as John Wayne, with that boyish man smile. How long is long endurance? Lazy Line Painter Jane? The Rollercoaster Ride? Rollercoaster ride will suffice. For something, but i'm not sure what. Ah, perhaps I have been mistaken, on the smut front. i definitely meant more of a long warm nappish thing with clothes on and lots of drowsy hands and kissy kissies more than a boom boom isaac Hayes wicka wahka thing. On another note, i wrote a verse yesterday night! Isn't that wonderful? I feel like I've just toilet trained myself. Cynthia ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 70204923 at xxx.ca Wed Oct 21 22:32:19 1998 From: 70204923 at xxx.ca (Sebastian) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:32:19 EST Subject: Sinister: to all BOSTON-ites Message-ID: <15961E47F0E@cs5.conestogac.on.ca> please provide a blow-by-blow account of tonights B&S gala, if pos...song list too??? merci...enjoy. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jon_Wetzel at xxx.com Wed Oct 21 21:31:52 1998 From: Jon_Wetzel at xxx.com (Wetzel, Jon ) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:31:52 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Athens show Message-ID: Are there tickets still available for the athens show and if so, who do i contact to get some. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dkemp at xxx.net Wed Oct 21 16:28:43 1998 From: dkemp at xxx.net (Heather Kemp) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:28:43 Subject: Sinister: cocaine and rod Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981021162843.2e8738b8@mail.baynet.net> hiya, charlotte asked about: rod. is this rod begbie? i know him and i know he likes b & s....i was just wondering if it was the same person cuz i haven't heard of too many people named rod. tag wrote: >>donovan wrote >>get there early for cocaine >>Actually he didn't. It just seemed that way. haha it did! i had to read the post a second time cuz i thought it said 'get there early for cocaine'. glad i'm not the only one who needs their eyes checked. ;) robin=sad tomato...are you the same robin that was on popscene and hoax the blur lists? the tomato thing sounded familiar but maybe i'm just weird.... oh..and i'm new as of about digest #415 i think...you guys write the coolest things :) heatha +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koogydelbbog at xxx.com Wed Oct 21 22:08:34 1998 From: koogydelbbog at xxx.com (andrew dean) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: ink polaroid holiday postcard Message-ID: <19981021210834.17566.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> here's me and 399 other people sat in the plane at heathrow terminal 21. it's just taken us 2 hours to go from heathrow terminal 6 to here after an aborted take off, something about the number three engine not wanting to accelerate. we all look a bit tired and not a little scared. we all know it's going to be a long day. hell, it already HAS been a long day and the thought of another 4 hours in heathrow before the 11 hour flight is more than a lot of people can bear. non-smoking flight too. that'll teach them. and here's me 27 hours and 169 pages of 'Girlfriend In A Coma' after i left home finally arriving at my destination and by all accounts i should be asleep but that can wait just a bit longer cos i haven't had THESE arms (or, indeed any other arms) around me for four months now. sleep can wait... the inside of an internet cafe on melrose in CA, just minutes from where i'm staying, serruptitiously downloading IRC software on one of the PCs here. um, this US keyboards a bit alien to me and the connection's not as fast as i'm used to but it'll do. um, floods in the uk, 70' and sunny here. thems the breaks. anyway, my hour's nearly up. hope evrybody else's flights (rory & linda's for instance) were less eventful than my own (pam, you'd've hated it). sigh, i'm on the wrong coast a week early for the gigs but, somehow, i think i have the better of the deal 8) see you andy 3 hours... (8B == andrew dean (koogydelbbog at yahoo.com) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 95djb2 at xxx.uk Wed Oct 21 22:09:43 1998 From: 95djb2 at xxx.uk (Dom) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:09:43 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: smut with your clothes on Message-ID: > > Someone, probably someone called Jessica, suggested getting down to some > low down dirty sweaty squelchy stuff to a soundtrack of B&S No, it was Cynthia, I remember, and I think the point she made (and how) was that B&S is the soundtrack to innocent fumbles, before things get all sticky and sweaty. Or maybe in the morning to wake up to and cuddle to, afterwards...sorry, must stop this unhealthy topic line. Then again, the title of TWATTYBUS tends to imply the band had more in mind... I started writing this post an hour ago, then someone 'phoned and I totally forgot about it whilst I swore at my computer (impossible programming thingy for uni to do), so much so that I don't know what to say anymore (sigh) Guess it's time to go Dom +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From donovan at xxx.com Wed Oct 21 22:21:07 1998 From: donovan at xxx.com (donovan finn) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:21:07 -0400 Subject: Sinister: west coast Message-ID: > i shant be going to any of those belle and sebastian shows, since california > apparently isnt important enough to rate a stop this time around (but athens > is, right? yep.) Reasons why Belle and Sebastian are not doing West Coast dates until next year: 1) Belle and Sebastian are busy people. 2) Coordinating availability and travel plans for a band and crew totalling 13 people is EXTREMELY difficult, time-consuming and expensive. 3) Athens/Atlanta is a very important market for an artist of Belle and Sebastian's status. 4)Athens is a 15 hour drive from NYC. Any point on the west coast is AT LEAST a 48 hour drive. In order to fit as many shows as possible into the band's small amount of open time, we opted to wait on the west coast till next year. 5) Next year the folks in the rest of the country will be making the same complaint you're making now, when you are seeing the band and they are not. You can't make everybody happy all the time. -donovan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Wed Oct 21 22:02:39 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (JJ) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:02:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Out in the fields plus more Message-ID: <362E4BEF.FD2@seahouses.u-net.com> Hi! Just saw an advert for the Best of Gary Moore and I have to admit I very slightly air-guitarred to Parisian Walkways. But who wouldn't. Or couldn't. Julie Christie...DID Stephen 'Duff Duff' Tinny really do a song called that? I know a band from Clevedon (nr Bristol) called the Driscolls did a song around 1989/1990 called Julie Christie.. the chorus being something like "and then you go and pull that Julie Christie face" or some indie twaddle like that. Nice tune though. Jake/Kenny was musing about football shirts. I've got four, two home and two away, I wonder what he meant? Geri ex-spice. Apparently she is going to be teaching the kids of 3rd world countries about contraception. Is this a wise idea? She didn't seem to do much good with her old pop group. THEN CHARLOTTE HALL WROTE: "I have no recollection of being compared to a cat by Tag, didn't notice being bawled at by Rod, didn't feel insulted by JJ,and don't recall being asked my age by Stuart." Now hang on - I know I have a bit of a, 'reputation' shall we say, on this list. But I WASN'T EVEN THERE!! If I've ever said anything to anyone ever about you that offended you I am sorry. Did I insult you by proxy or something? Squarepusher - saw the new video on MTV last night, fucking hell it's SCARY and it takes place in some Osaka disturbed children's hospital. Brainswap with small dogs and fat men. Eurgh. JJ xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mdellima at xxx.com Wed Oct 21 22:35:44 1998 From: mdellima at xxx.com (mark del lima) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:35:44 -0700 Subject: Sinister: west coast Message-ID: <199810212128.OAA38074@scv4.apple.com> thank you for the response. i'm curious about one thing though: what does 'next year' entail? > >> i shant be going to any of those belle and sebastian shows, since california >> apparently isnt important enough to rate a stop this time around (but athens >> is, right? yep.) > >Reasons why Belle and Sebastian are not doing West Coast dates until next >year: > >1) Belle and Sebastian are busy people. >2) Coordinating availability and travel plans for a band and crew totalling >13 people is EXTREMELY difficult, time-consuming and expensive. >3) Athens/Atlanta is a very important market for an artist of Belle and >Sebastian's status. >4)Athens is a 15 hour drive from NYC. Any point on the west coast is AT >LEAST a 48 hour drive. In order to fit as many shows as possible into the >band's small amount of open time, we opted to wait on the west coast till >next year. >5) Next year the folks in the rest of the country will be making the same >complaint you're making now, when you are seeing the band and they are not. >You can't make everybody happy all the time. > >-donovan > > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starwars at xxx.edu Wed Oct 21 22:43:24 1998 From: starwars at xxx.edu (erin kathleen devitt) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:43:24 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Sinister: Misheard Lyrics? Message-ID: Hello, I don't know if any of you guys are still interested in misheard lyrics, but I've got a couple that I think are kinda funny. The first one is from Pulp's This is Hardcore. This one line goes: You can't be a spectator. And I thought it went: You can't peel potatoes. The other one is off of B&S's new album. I can't remember the name of the song( I think it has Seymore in it) Well, you know after he says "LA to New York, San Francisco back to Boston" I thought he said Has he ever seen Ghandi(however you spell it) instead of dundee. And nutella tastes best on eggo minis xoxo Erin D +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Greekesque at xxx.com Wed Oct 21 23:15:10 1998 From: Greekesque at xxx.com (Greekesque at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:15:10 EDT Subject: Sinister: in the snow (winter blues) (i can't think write) Message-ID: << This may sound crazy, but if you cut a lemon in half and smell it every so often, it does a good job of getting rid of that "down" feeling. >> i believe it! but i've got the best method! it's quiet easy... after a real bad day, go home and change into your cosiest outfit, put on a sweater, and go to the library with your best friend. hop on down to the children's section, get lost in the small rows of books, and just start rolling. roll like there is not tomarrow... cus there might not be... roll! christian i'm crazy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sweaters at xxx.net Wed Oct 21 19:22:53 1998 From: sweaters at xxx.net (Butch Sweaters) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:22:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: licking railings Message-ID: <199810212219.SAA03916@postoffice.dca.net> My interpretation of the "a dose of thrush..." line has always been that the railing is one of those poles on the stages of strip clubs that "dancers" use. I've seen these performers put both their tongues and, um, other parts of their bodies against these poles and it's always struck me as kind of depraved from a hygene perspective. I never knew what thrush was, so that didn't really figure into my interpretation. So there you go. THOBS: http://members.dca.net/sweaters/. New and improved. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From oxygen at xxx.edu Wed Oct 21 23:21:30 1998 From: oxygen at xxx.edu (sad tomato) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:21:30 -0700 Subject: Sinister: o athens, how i love thee Message-ID: <199810212221.PAA24464@uclink.berkeley.edu> Some southerner wrote: >Actually, I'm kind of surprised that this is the first time that someone >publicly wondered *why* Belle and Sebastian are playing in Athens. To >keep it short, it is simply one of the coolest towns on the East Coast. >And I'm so proud of our little Belles and Sebastians for not avoiding >the South like most UK bands do. Athens is not a tiny little hick town >which, if I'm not wrong, the above quote implies. It's an hour from a >city you might have heard of called Atlanta (another great place) and is >home to the University of Georgia. And in case you weren't in the know, >there's a few good bands and songwriters from Athens, some of which you >may have even heard of. So yes, Athens IS important enough to rate a >stop, thank you. so athens is important because it is an hour from atlanta and has a few good bands and songwriters? sheesh, if that were the measure of importance i must remember never to associate with los angeles or new york city or anything. after having been on many lists and having divorced myself from those lists because of the fear of actually saying anything, i shall have to say "shame!" i actually DO know where athens is....in greece right? please dont underestimate my sense of geography....of course athens is in georgia. and r.e.m. are from there. and i drove through there once before. and atlanta has lots of kudzu and the braves, and the padres are better than the braves. (but maybe not the yankees.) you all must understand how bitter i am by the fact that belle and sebastian played here in the san francisco bay area once before, and i had no idea, and cried buckets afterwards. and then, to realize that they arent coming over here at all this time around. having grown up in podunk san diego, i was used to not seeing live shows, but i thought that once i moved away to the big ole san francisco area i would never miss a band ever again. i didnt mean to crunch your town; i just am really curious why san francisco or even los angeles doesnt rate a stop. sorry to make everyone read this....although i know if you really didnt care you would have moved on and not have read this.....but i need to assert myself and show that i shant be walked on or belittled. am i the only one who has noticed that it is well nigh impossible to make any opinion here that doesnt get a grumpy response unless one is a smooth talker from u.k.? i am surprised anyone says anything at all really. okay, i am actually having fun with this....reid, shall we battle this out privately? or perhaps just chat? i am sure athens is a gorgeous place, really. by coincidence i am wearing a t-shirt with a picture of athens on it....the one in georgia. after another one of those that-wasnt-what-i-meant-to-say-at-all things, robin. Blood oranges grow well in Florida, but they frighten American women. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vlass at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 00:47:58 1998 From: vlass at xxx.com (vlass at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:47:58 -0400 Subject: Sinister: oh, toronto, oh Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19981021234758.006a3a54@mail.interlog.com> ahhh, i haven't contributed to this list for so long! but you all seem so chatty these days, i didn't want to interrupt. but here i go anyway: so.. the toronto show is on saturday and i'm getting more and more excited by the second. gee, belle and sebastian here in canada? it's just been a dream-filled past few months, what with the magnetic fields, ida and now BELLE AND SEBASTIAN coming to this fine city... a toronto-bound lad wrote: >Trying to fill the gap between now and landing at Toronto airport is >proving very difficult, so if you'll indulge me again... for you and your hostess, i deeply hope that there aren't any delays at the pearson airport. it's been *awful* there these days.. i spent an unnecesarily long time at an airport in ottawa last weekend because the plane from toronto was taking ages to take off.. grumble grumble air canada strikes, grrr. but if anyone wants to hear the story about *why* i was at an airport in ottawa, let me know. it involves everything from love to lies to drives along the coast and walking on railroad tracks. oh yeah, count on me for smut... okay, a pre-introduction for all those going to the toronto show: i'm teri (not to be confused with the teri with purple ribbon around her wrist in boston.. i understand the bounty of jessica's, but imagine there being two teri's on the list!). i'll be at the preshow meeting, sadly alone because my date for the night must oblige her family and go to some wedding reception which starts at 6. then she'll run down to the opera house and hopefully not miss a thing... i don't have pez!! i've never eaten pez in my life and i don't know how to work a pez dispenser. i don't think i've ever even touched one. but then again, i've never seen star wars, and no - i wasn't brought up in a box in the basement... i've also never had turkey at thanksgiving.. this is all normal, right? i'll be a girl with black hair (ask politely and i'll show you my white hair) and glasses. do say hello. until then... teri xx see my updated website: http://members.tripod.com/~meltingsnow/ sign my guestbook, it's so empty. at least give me the illusion that i have friends. :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marc.boudignon at xxx.ca Thu Oct 22 01:05:56 1998 From: marc.boudignon at xxx.ca (Marc Boudignon) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:05:56 -0400 Subject: Sinister: oh, toronto, oh In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19981021234758.006a3a54@mail.interlog.com> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981021200556.006dc00c@pop.sheridanc.on.ca> i don't have pez!! i've never eaten pez in my life and i don't know how to >work a pez dispenser. i don't think i've ever even touched one. but then >again, i've never seen star wars, and no - i wasn't brought up in a box in >the basement... i've also never had turkey at thanksgiving.. this is all >normal, right? I don't know if you want to be fully up to speed with modern pez technology, but there are sundry establishments around this great city created specifically to meet society's pez needs. Phew! The most pez I've come across is on Richmond St. downtown - at the Candy Factory. They have a whole room dedicated to pez. Right beside the Joker. You'll be amazed at what pez-ticians have been able to come up with! Anyway, just thought I would fill you in, to....you know, help you to become normal.;) See you at the concert! Marc > >i'll be a girl with black hair (ask politely and i'll show you my white >hair) and glasses. do say hello. > >until then... > >teri xx > >see my updated website: http://members.tripod.com/~meltingsnow/ >sign my guestbook, it's so empty. at least give me the illusion that i have >friends. :) > > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TWidmer at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 01:13:33 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:13:33 -0700 Subject: Sinister: o athens, how i love thee Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF032DC724@amerwksnt01.xil.com> <> can somebody tell me, when was this show?? my friend said the same thing, and i disagreed, haughtily insisting, "no, *I* would've remembered".... esp having read that B&S have only played gigs in NY prior to, well, today? Could I be wrong?!? that would be... well, normal actually. <> honeychile, I know... there, there... Despite all the explanations that it wasn't possible or convenient or whatever for the band to come here now, and the reassurances that next year will bring a tour, it still feels slightly...insulting...(not quite the word I'm looking for).. True, maybe no one person or party is responsible, but it still leaves us unhappy. We'll patiently await the spring tour, but in the meantime... Maybe some lemons or rosemary would help... Susan(?), sincerest thanks for that advice! Only yesterday i was reading about "seasonal depression" and thought, "hmm, that's exactly how I'm feeling!" only to learn that those lightbox things cost upwards of $300 - i.e. the cost of a plane ticket to New york! There is some good news to be found in that Saint Etienne have announced dates for their first US headline tour!!! And yes, it includes California! Speaking of licking railings, which some of the naughtier amongst us were doing (should we now start a rude "sinister" photos page?) what does she mean when Isobel sings about "skipping tickets"? Hope the Boston show ruled! ta, taracita +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Thu Oct 22 02:10:32 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:10:32 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Tour locations Message-ID: <362E8608.69DF69F8@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Hm... I have done a little bit of thinking about this, and here is my thinking. It appears that this tour is an upper-east coast tour with a couple trips elsewhere to do something or other about maximizing tour areas, which does, admittedly, make loads of sense. I don't have all the dates memorized or anything, but it does appear that they have decided to mostly hit the upper east coast, playing in New York (twice!), Boston, DC, and Philadelphia, which isn't on the coast but you get the idea. Then they're playing in Toronto in order to allow for some Canadians to make the show, then Athens for the southerners, and Chicago for the midwestern kids. You see, they also aren't playing any other typical midwest stops, such as Detroit, Cleveland, COLUMBUS!, St. Louis, Cincinatti, etc. Why not go to any of those places? They're certainly much larger in size and scope than Athens, GA. But of course, the answer is that geographical maximization thing, which is probably why they didn't set up any other southern shows, as there are some sizable cities/potential shows down that way, of course. Luckily I needed another excuse to go to New York anyway ;) Now I must go to get some groceries... /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at oak.cats.ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From escossia at xxx.br Thu Oct 22 01:00:54 1998 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:00:54 -0200 Subject: Sinister: A boring mail to a wonderful list [ be nice with me] Message-ID: <01bdfd4f$09c82fc0$0100007f@localhost> >chickclick.com >girl sites that don't fake it. >http://www.chickclick.com This site is REALLY great. >This may sound crazy, but if you cut a lemon in half and smell it every so >often, it does a good job of getting rid of that "down" feeling. I like orange and Kiwi juice >i believe it! but i've got the best >method! it's quiet easy... after >a real bad day, go home and >change into your cosiest outfit, >put on a sweater, and go to the >library with your best friend. hop >on down to the children's section, >get lost in the small rows of books, >and just start rolling. roll like there >is not tomarrow... cus there might >not be... I prefer drink some MILLERs And DON'T listen to "get me away from here..." I think i will drink another Miller now. ~~~^~^v^~^v^~^v^~^v^~v^~^v^~^v^~ Jessica A P Escossia +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Thu Oct 22 03:02:15 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:02:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: RE: sinister-digest V2 #423 In-Reply-To: <199810211818.TAA05131@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000001bdfd5f$fdaf81a0$c40893c3@whelan> Kevan Cooke, wrote... "Did anyone else ever watch the wrestling on ITV? Not the WWF stuff, the old UK wrestling with Big Daddy and Giant Haystacks that they used to show until the mid-eighties." Oh yes indeedy and it was. Ace. Every Saturday afternoon at 4o'clock me and me Nan used to sit down and watch the wrestling. Wasn't Kendo Nagasaki a mean git ?. I felt sorry for Big Daddy's tag team partner, cos they always had to have the crap beaten out of them for ten minutes, then somehow crawl over to the corner to tag BD before he kicked the shit out of the opponent. They do all the hard work, then he waltz's in a takes the glory. Doesn't seem fair to me. Then Sam wrote.... "Regarding the Julie Christie thread, Stephen Duffy wrote a song titled 'Julie Christie' in the mid-80s. This is when he sounded aweful. Does anyone remember 'Kiss Me'?" Oh that was bad, if I remember right it contained that immortal line "Kiss me with your mouth" except the words were staggered making it sound really silly, niiiice. 87) Still it could have been worse, it could have been "Icing on the Cake", now that was BAD. OI Fluffy, when you eventually get round to reading this, "Icing on the Cake" is on that horrible NOW5 thing, hear how bad it is. Mr Miller wrote.... "Theres some grim looking badgers down the tut'n'shive, Peter Millers got a balsawood dildo..." "My friend Sarah wrote that, no doubt gurning at the same time, just like JO DUNNE and her trademark star-shaped sunglasses from We've Got a Fuzzbox and We're Gonna Use it. Will I be getting previously unreleased Alarm demos?" Nope, you'll be getting some tippity top Welsh tunes, by some of the bestest Welsh bands around and by bands who the people who are in the bestest Welsh bands used to be in.... and Mixies Men, who somehow made it on despite being from Birkenhead, on the strength that A), They're fantastic and B) They used to support Anherfn a lot. Sarah gurning, never, actually we were in the pub thinking, "my god this place is shit". Hehehe funny you should mention the mullet kings there. I came across a copy of Declaration (it's the first Alarm album for those who don't know... which is probably all of you) in the market. Sarah found the cover a mixture of amusing and scary, I don't say I blame her much do you ?. See ya Gary +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From komis at xxx.edu Thu Oct 22 03:06:47 1998 From: komis at xxx.edu (Dmitry Komis) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:06:47 -0500 Subject: Sinister: julie christie In-Reply-To: <000001bdfd5f$fdaf81a0$c40893c3@whelan> References: <199810211818.TAA05131@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19981021210647.007e94b0@students.uiuc.edu> At 03:02 AM 10/22/98 +0100, you wrote: >"Regarding the Julie Christie thread, tonight i watched my favorite julie christie film of all time...."Shampoo" thats all dmitry +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Thu Oct 22 03:13:35 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:13:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Can't think of one. Message-ID: <000001bdfd61$93eed5c0$8f0f93c3@whelan> While glancing through the latest digest, I came cross this scandalous accusation.... BUT poo to that for now, for I have pressing news of an urgent manner. The list member formerly known to you as Gary, has CHANGED both his name and career! he has given up badger watching for the worthy lifestyle of rockstar, oh yes. he will start his brilliant career (hoohoo) tomorrow, with his cover of Brimful Of Asha....with slightly different lyrics that we thought o dahn the pub..... "Theres some grim looking badgers down the tut'n'shive, Peter Millers got a balsawood dildo..." I mean don't get me wrong, it's nice to know I now have a career (just don't tell those nice people at Social Security), but I deny all knowledge. It was all Sarah's idea, I was too busy laughing at Andrew Kok's lighting show room... hey, I'm easily pleased. So there's no need for you to risk taking that Uzi through customs Mr Miller after all. 87) I can assure the good man miller has name only popped up, 'cos I was collaborating with the OTHER titan of welsh rockiness upon your Pync Roc Cymraeg tape :) Would I make allegations abotu someone who calls themselves Bobby Chariot? OH NO! A damn fine tape it is as well if I say so myself. I hope you like Aled Jones Peter. 87) Jordi wrote.... After two or three weeks of being in the list, I have a little question to do: Is there any spanish sinisterite in the list ? or South-American ? Please, let me know. I think there's a couple at least isn't there ?. Also PJ and Duncan speaks Spanish do you not Mr Miller, so does Fluffy, well she claims to, but it's just broken English in a bad Lancashire accent. Oh boy am I dead. 87) Bye all Gary +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Greekesque at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 03:16:41 1998 From: Greekesque at xxx.com (Greekesque at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:16:41 EDT Subject: Sinister: oh, summer, oh. Message-ID: <78cf95b7.362e9589@aol.com> << i don't have pez!! i've never eaten pez in my life and i don't know how to work a pez dispenser. i don't think i've ever even touched one. but then again, i've never seen star wars, and no - i wasn't brought up in a box in the basement... i've also never had turkey at thanksgiving.. this is all normal, right? >> dear teri, pez is pretty good. it sucks though, because it takes you a minute or two to put it in the dispenser, and you eat it all in about 15 seconds... but that's just a rough estimate. you should go pick up some pez and a despenser, just to see what's it's all about. it makes you feel pretty cool... i haden't seen star wars until the summer between 8th and 9th (that's when your a freshman) grade.. it was really early in the summer and my best friend's (mike cambell) parents had gone out of town. so me and him were left in his house, with his older brothers who were never home. i had seen bits and pieces of star wars on tv, like when my dad was watching it, but never the whole thing. so we decided to watch all of the star wars, start to finish. we did too, and it was pleasent. that weekend we also snuck out a lot (which wasen't hard, considering his parents were'nt there. we just walked out the door.) and rode our bikes to the convient store which wasen't even that close. it was great. i also had a huge crush on a girl that weekend... her name, to this day, stands as sue majewski. (it's funny because we both agreed that princess laia (or however you spell it) kinda looks like her.) we listened to a lot of the band minor threat that weekend aswell. when his oldest brother, mathew stoped in late on friday, we asked him if he liked minor threat. he said yeah, and did some silly dance. then he ran upstairs and got us this super old minor threat video, and we watched it well. that night we also decided to stop drinking alcohol and junk like that... to this day i still don't, but mike does. we came to call that weekend the "minor threat weekend". love; christian jay sienkiewicz +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LMJ216 at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 03:24:47 1998 From: LMJ216 at xxx.com (LMJ216 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:24:47 EDT Subject: Sinister: new york Message-ID: <8f7b8e7.362e976f@aol.com> hello everybody, i'd like to happily announce that i *will* be attending the belle and sebastian picnic at bryant park november first. after the lovely picnic i will of course be going to the show, but there's a slight problem. i don't actually know exactly where the supper club is. i figured i could just follow a fellow belle and sebastian fan from the park to the show. but i'd like directions anyway, for parking reasons and such. could any of you lovely people kindly help me out? i'd very much appreciate it! Love, Little Lisa P.S. whatever happend to the harvey tape tree? i still haven't recieved a fourth tape! it's been months! is everything okie? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Arigreen23 at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 03:22:17 1998 From: Arigreen23 at xxx.com (Arigreen23 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:22:17 EDT Subject: Sinister: pez/nametags Message-ID: <4792208a.362e96d9@aol.com> In a message dated 98-10-20 11:39:57 EDT, you write: << I was hoping that we could all just wear nametags >> ooh, what a great idea! i shall bring pez to the philly show. bring your pez, people! and maybe a nametag. good thing, 'cause i might not make it to the philly meet-up :(...oh well...i'll try... ari +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erinlew at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 03:32:53 1998 From: erinlew at xxx.com (Erin Lewis) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:32:53 PDT Subject: Sinister: I'm turkey-hungry, I'm chicken-free, and I got into U of Missouri... Message-ID: <19981022023255.13493.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey kids, My punk boyfriend has been converted! I was convinced it would take many, many listens over many, many roadtrips, but all it took was "Simple Things" as song #1 on a mix tape I just sent him. (Individual responses may vary. Said boyfriend is blinded by love.) It's the first B&S song he's ever heard. So if any you have friends who love Fugazi and June of '44, there is salvation in "Simple Things". But! That is not what I chose to write about today. I have recently been accpted into the Masters of Photojournalism program at the University of Missouri - Columbia, and I'm leaving January 2. This means no trip to England (unless someone can think up a magic plan), and more importantly, no trip back to California to see Belle & Sebby when they go west. So I've sent Katrina an e-mail begging B&S to stop by Missouri on their second US tour. But! I've just realized that unless there are B&S fans in Missouri, or somewhere reasonably close (8 hours is close enough for me, e.g. Memphis, etc.), then why would they play there? "Athens is a very important and credible market," to paraphrase Mr. Donovan Matador, but St. Louis is perhaps not. So! All of you who are hiding near Missouri or would contemplate traveling there to see the show, please make yourself known!!!!!! Or I will never see B&S in this century. And! If they don't play Missouri, at least I will have someone to picnic with during the school year. I make lovely potluck dishes, and I am quite friendly. So vote for me, errr... Missouri! Yeah, because everyone knows it's the BEST (and I'm not just saying that because Columbia is a poo town that just happens to be the best/only place to get a masters in photoj). Love, Miss Erin (Erin #1) P.S. Hello to Erin D., Erin #2! Pee S. I know a boy who thought Sade's "Smooth Operator" was actually "Roo Oppa-didda". It has a nice ring to it, but what about midgets? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbgustat at xxx.net Thu Oct 22 05:14:41 1998 From: mbgustat at xxx.net (Mike Gustat) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:14:41 -0400 Subject: Sinister: BOSTON SHOW! Message-ID: <01bdfd72$7e0fb6a0$0ee084a9@oemcomputer> 12:02am EST - I JUST GOT IN!!!! The kids were amazing! Simply F'ing brilliant! The mix was perfect, they sounded SO TIGHT (I was down front). Stuart was wearing a Pittsburgh Shirt with a terry zip up. Stevie was in Black Velour. And Isobelle had on the most adorable black patten leather shoes with little white frilly socks! The opening band was...ehh...(I'm sorry). SIMPLE THINGS BEAUTIFUL JUDY BWTAS DYLAN SPDREAM SLEEP THE CLOCK AROUND BOY DONE WRONG GET ME AWAY FROM HERE SEEING OTHER PEOPLE CENTURY FAKERS also 2 which Stuart said were "new ones" I may have missed one...but sadly, there was no encore....I really wanted to hear MaryJo, too! SEE YOU IN NYC! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aliwalsh at xxx.edu Thu Oct 22 07:03:32 1998 From: aliwalsh at xxx.edu (alison) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 02:03:32 -0400 Subject: Sinister: boston show Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19981022020332.007a8ac0@acs-mail.bu.edu> I was at the Boston show too, and it was awesome... my first time seeing them live...it was quite a religious experience. Besides their ingenious musical talent and touching songs, what I liked best was their genuine kindness. Stuart was so...polite...and adorable. sexy. scottish. he decided that the lighting was "disconcerting" and asked the sound guy in the back of the hall to put lights on in the audience to even out the contrast because he couldn't see shit and it was making him a bit sleepy. It was also amusing when he started Boy Done Wrong Again several times and cussed because he couldn't remember the chords. And I agree with the last message...the opening band was...fair. alison +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 07:14:04 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 23:14:04 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Re: Light Box vs. Sniffing Lemon Message-ID: <00a701bdfd83$30202cc0$889fcdcf@brier> The woman I proofread for just got one of those happy lightboxes atop her desk. You'd never know she was down, but she said she's had slightly depressive blahs so she got one (for $250!) and says it works. I suspect that it works because she THINKS it works, but she mentions "positively charged ions" or some such crap. But as long as it cheers her up. I had never even heard of such a thing before. It looks like flourescent light, which I think is evil. But I guess it's different from flourescense. I like your idea of aromatherapy much better. My deororant (Arm & Hammer baking soda Brand) works the same way to my girlfriend. I swear it does. She plants her face square in the middle of my chest and inhales deeply, and her eyes roll back and she laughs. I swear I am not making this up. Aroma is really closely linked to memory and emotion. B&S Content: Who is Dylan of Dylan in the Movies? Bob? Didn't find it in the archives (which, no, does not translate to "I am too lazy to check the archives". Isn't being able to talk to strangers all around the world with a box of wires a magical notion? BrierTheAngel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 07:43:55 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 23:43:55 -0700 Subject: Sinister: west coast Message-ID: <00ee01bdfd87$5857c000$889fcdcf@brier> Well said by Donovan. I'm in California and I'd much rather have the chance of seeing them in four different west-coast cities than having them jet over here for one quick L.A. show, which would be impossibly sold out in one day. Plus when they come in 99 they'll be well rested, instead of having just played ten shows on the opposite coast. Patience!!! Brier (whose bip-bopping days are over) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ellen at xxx.edu Thu Oct 22 09:18:04 1998 From: ellen at xxx.edu (Ellen S. Kim) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:18:04 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Boston b&s show Message-ID: So, as i type this at 3:07 am eastern standard time, i would like to say that i just got home from the boston belle and sebastian show. the gig ended at approx. 11:30. the show was wonderful. having never seen b&s live, i was surprised at the real beauty of stuart murdoch's voice. i originally thought the cd sounded so good because of production or something. anyway,it's not like i live 2-3 hours away from the city either. this usually 15 minute car ride from boston was interrupted several times by the overheating of a car engine, and finally the death of the car. yay, it was also about 40 degrees farenheit. they played a lot of stuff off bwtas(including space boy dream, which i thought was more of something for the studio, but as usual, i am wrong.), iyfs, and 3..6..9..seconds. the show was quite ethereal, to put it mildly. i don't know why i am typing this, since it is so late. but i think that my night will never end, since i now have to write a paper on Plato's Republic. well, good night listees. and those of you going to other american shows, i hope you are very excited. -e +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 08:07:37 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:07:37 -0700 Subject: Sinister: o athens, how i love thee Message-ID: <010601bdfd8a$a79c6280$889fcdcf@brier> I was going to reply exclusively to Sad Tomato, but in case there are any other angry Californians who are jealous about living in the wrong place at the wrong time, here it is: Is your name from REM's "Crush With Eyeliner"? If so, well said! But not so well-said on your defensive missive about B&S not touring the west coast this winter. They're coming in early 99, and they'll be well rested. It's just a matter of them playing the east coast FIRST. It seems like that's why you're so upset. "They're playing in YOUR area first! They like YOU better! Waaaaaahhh!!!" You say SF and LA "don't even rate a stop". No, they don't. They rate an ENTIRE TOUR, to be conducted as early as three months from now. Patience! I actually agreed with the beginning of your post; whoever suggested that Athens was important because of its proximity to Atlanta and because of a few good bands missed the mark. But Athens IS important to a band like Belle & Sebastian, simply because large numbers of people who are fans live there, and will be able to see the band they like. That's why bands tour. (And for money, yes. But playing their mucic to people who like it is an inspiration too.) Feel lucky that you'll ever get to see them at all, and that they even exist. I am thankful every day that B&S are alive & around & soundtracking our lives. Amen. Goodbye. > >so athens is important because it is an hour from atlanta and has a few good >bands and songwriters? sheesh, if that were the measure of importance i >must remember never to associate with los angeles or new york city or anything. >after having been on many lists and having divorced myself from those lists >because of the fear of actually saying anything, i shall have to say >"shame!" i actually DO know where athens is....in greece right? please >dont underestimate my sense of geography....of course athens is in georgia. >and r.e.m. are from there. and i drove through there once before. and >atlanta has lots of kudzu and the braves, and the padres are better than the >braves. (but maybe not the yankees.) you all must understand how bitter i >am by the fact that belle and sebastian played here in the san francisco bay >area once before, and i had no idea, and cried buckets afterwards. and >then, to realize that they arent coming over here at all this time around. >having grown up in podunk san diego, i was used to not seeing live shows, >but i thought that once i moved away to the big ole san francisco area i >would never miss a band ever again. i didnt mean to crunch your town; i >just am really curious why san francisco or even los angeles doesnt rate a stop. >sorry to make everyone read this....although i know if you really didnt care >you would have moved on and not have read this.....but i need to assert >myself and show that i shant be walked on or belittled. >am i the only one who has noticed that it is well nigh impossible to make >any opinion here that doesnt get a grumpy response unless one is a smooth >talker from u.k.? i am surprised anyone says anything at all really. okay, >i am actually having fun with this....reid, shall we battle this out >privately? or perhaps just chat? i am sure athens is a gorgeous place, really. >by coincidence i am wearing a t-shirt with a picture of athens on it....the >one in georgia. > >after another one of those that-wasnt-what-i-meant-to-say-at-all things, >robin. > >Blood oranges grow well in Florida, but they frighten American women. > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jbrent at xxx.ca Thu Oct 22 11:06:13 1998 From: jbrent at xxx.ca (Jason Brent) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:06:13 -0700 Subject: Sinister: GOLDEN NEEDLE IN HAYSTACK!!! Message-ID: <362F0394.E67BF97C@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca> Is anyone else finding that the distribution for B&S really sucks? Here in Canada, it is part of Matador's distr. deal with Capital I think, and after 2 weeks of the release date, the only place I found it was HM(fucking)V for $32!(thats twice as much as a new cd should cost!!!) I had less problems finding the Enclave Sinister, after the label had gone bust! I've never had any problems locating any other Matador artists either. Maybe I just live in a shitty city, and its time to move!!! (ANY SUGGESTIONS?) LATER, JAY +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From michaela.clarke at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 09:10:14 1998 From: michaela.clarke at xxx.com (Michaela Clarke +44 (131) 343 5810) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:10:14 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Parka's and tom waits Message-ID: <5414100922101998/A72908/MULL/11CAB24A0E00*@MHS> I'm confused now 'cos somebody said > As for ridicule, surely dragging people round the schoolyard by the >loop thing on the top/back of the hood was much more fun. and that's undermined my fundamental belief that the sole purpose of those things was to attach the unfortunate soul to the metal bars on the back on the bus seat, with hilarious results when it got to their stop. I am amazed to find these things were multi purpose, perhaps somebody knows of another use, (primitive adolescent Arab strap perhaps?) As a shared love of Tom Waits seams to be involved in all the greatest of my friendships, I am quite keen for the person who keeps mentioning him to get in touch, I have a plan to have a tom waits fan friend on every continent. CHEESE content never one to let a good theme die how about 'wedneslydale and cranberry' as purchased from grassroots or insomnia (for your 24hour cheese requirement) on woodlands rd in Glasgow when are we having an edinburgh meet up? hogs and snugs K'la "If God is love and love is blind, then Ray Charles could be God" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fahmed at xxx.uk Thu Oct 22 09:14:32 1998 From: fahmed at xxx.uk (Faraz Ahmed) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:14:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Mail Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981022091432.007a5980@mail.bcftcs.ac.uk> Can you not send me unsolicited mail, for the second time. I DO NOT WANT MAIL FROM YOU, I DON at T NEED IT. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Charlotte.Hall at xxx.uk Thu Oct 22 09:17:45 1998 From: Charlotte.Hall at xxx.uk (Charlotte Hall) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:17:45 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <00105FCB.CE21213@smlawpub.co.uk> continuing the recent but honourable tradition of the list, I apologise to JJ for traducing his hitherto unblemished reputation by confusing him with someone else. Never mind, eh? Changing tack, has anyone picked up references in Stuart Murdoch's songs to his past as a member of Glasgow Uni boxing club? Charlotte +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From John.Stuart at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 09:30:20 1998 From: John.Stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 01:30:20 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Don't Look Back Message-ID: <93CA1ADD24AED111B6CF00A0C906763037FC9F@EDINBURGH> Brier wrote... >Who is Dylan of Dylan in the Movies? Bob? Didn't find it in >the archives (which, no, does not translate to "I am too lazy to check the >archives". Yeah it is Bob Dylan, he was in a film called Don't Look Back. Which reminds me that BBC 2 are showing "Don't Look Back" as part of a double bill with "Kurt & Courtney" soon (although I don't know exactly when). Cheers, John S. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JohnJ at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 09:45:53 1998 From: JohnJ at xxx.com (John Johnston) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:45:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Join our club Message-ID: I feel very privileged to be in that exclusive gang of Sinister people who felt the need to apologise to Charlotte Hall at Shepherds Bush - (and my initials are JJ so your memory is not deserting you.) All I can say is that she is a beautiful and intelligent women and I was really apologising to myself I guess for talking such complete bollocks when I was introduced that I feared I wasn't comming across as the devil-may-care dangerous and sexy genius that i hope to come across as.Heavens above I was about to talk about Deacon Blue - you'll understand that apologies were in order. I did a comedy turn a couple of weeks ago and again tonight if you're in Sth London - The Bedford Pub in Balham @ 9pm and with the proceeds I bought "Songs for Swingin' Lovers" by the late Frank Sinatra. My first thought was that if that album came out today the title would have very different connotations. My second and subesequently only thought that it is such an aural delight that I have scarce heard the like. You can't help but smile and sing along with his wonderful voice and those delicious Nelson Riddle arrangements. It's just too marvellous for words. Glad the Boston gig was fun. xx John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david.dear at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 10:47:17 1998 From: david.dear at xxx.com (David Dear) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 9:47:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Light Box vs. Sniffing Message-ID: > >B&S Content: Who is Dylan of Dylan in the Movies? Bob? Didn't find it in >the archives (which, no, does not translate to "I am too lazy to check the >archives". Hi everyone - been on the list for a day, and this question has given me a good excuse to send my first mail in. It is Bob Dylan - 'Don't Look Back' was a film by Penebaker (?) about a tour he made to England in the Sixties (I think they've just released a Dylan album of one of the concerts from that tour a few weks back, but don''t quote me on that'.) **************************************************** David Dear mailto:david.dear at getty-images.com ***************************************************** Getty Images 101 Bayham St London NW1 0AG Sales Tel : (+44) 171 544 3333 Sales Fax : (+44) 171 544 3334 Main Switchboard : (+44) 171 267 8988 Home Page: http://www.getty-images.com ***************************************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 09:52:10 1998 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgal) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 01:52:10 PDT Subject: Sinister: o athens, how i love thee Message-ID: <19981022085210.27127.qmail@hotmail.com> I just have to..say athens georgia...is a beuatiful place although I've never been there, but the city has a great musicscene all due to the elephant 6 collective..and the nice people i know there..I'm saving so I can go there... athens..so very inspiring people over there... (I doubt this has anything to do with the rest..but ah well) hugs becka # go and have a peek at my page it's constantly developing, http://www.angelfire.com/me/Mizzy # ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nikolas.montaldi at xxx.uk Wed Oct 21 12:43:51 1998 From: nikolas.montaldi at xxx.uk (nikolas montaldi) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:43:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re:French pop singers yet again Message-ID: <7129089ECA26D211AA6600805FA774BCB6F133@airport.unn.ac.uk> Hi List, Philippe and Kevan were discussing French swingin' sixties stars like Francoise Hardy and France Gall the other day,and I just wanted to say that there was also a funny male called Michel Polnareff. In his early days in around 1964/65 he looked quite handsome and sang beautiful little songs,like "La pouppe qui fait non","Le roi de fourmis", "Ame Caline" etc.,simply accompanied by his guitar,some cellos and a squeaky hammond organ.I tracked down some of his original vinyl records a few years ago and never stopped listening to them. Unfortunately Polnareff later lost all his charm and simplicity and reinvented himself as some sort of frightul, androgynous creature, stalking the stage in his underwear,with massive shades and a horrendous haircut. Sadly photographs of that sort now grace every of his compilations and surely scare of any half interested kid.It's a shame,he should have left the drag business to other people who did it better. Well I just thought I should mention him,he's no competion to Francoise and France(who made some nasty comeback records as well,by the way),but his early stuff is lovely. Bye everyone, Stephane - what happened to you? No messages on the list from you for days,I hope you are well. NIK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nmontaldi at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 10:06:52 1998 From: nmontaldi at xxx.com (Nikolas Montaldi) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 02:06:52 PDT Subject: Sinister: More FRENCH POP STARS Message-ID: <19981022090652.23842.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi list Philippe and Kevan were discussing French swingin' sixties stars like Francoise Hardy and France Gall here the other day,I just wanted to say that there also used to be quite a funny male called Michel Polnareff. When he started in around 1964/65 he looked very handsome and unassuming,singing beautiful little songs like "La poupee qui fait non","Ame caline","Le roi de fourmis" etc.,just accompanied by his guitar,some cellos and a squeaky hammond organ.I tracked down some of his orginal vinyl records a few years ago and never stopped listening to them. Unfotunately he later reinvented himself as some sort of androgynous,glam - creature,stalking the stage in his underwear,a pair of massive shades and a horrific haircut(possibly a wig?). Sadly photographs of that kind now grace every of his compilatons and are surely scarring of every half interested kid.It's a shame,he should have left the drag business to people who did it better than him. Well,he may not have the grace and style of our beloved Francoise and France,but his early songs are sweet anyway.Apparently he is still famous in Japan today... I thought I should just mention him,hope I won't get any abuse from all you French people.Bye for now... Stephane,if you happen to read this I hope that you are well,I've send a note to you last week,but since I've had some problems with the computer you might have never received it.I'm on Hotmail now,hope this works. NIK ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iles at xxx.uk Thu Oct 22 11:41:27 1998 From: iles at xxx.uk (Mark Iles) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:41:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Dylan in Manchester In-Reply-To: <199810220851.JAA25944@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: >It is Bob Dylan - 'Don't Look Back' was a film by Penebaker (?) about a =20 >tour he made to England in the Sixties (I think they've just released a =20 >Dylan album of one of the concerts from that tour a few weks back, but =20 >don''t quote me on that'=2E) The CD they've just released is the famous bootleg of Bob Dylan playing in Manchester when he went electric and the audience booed and shouted 'Judas' at him. Sorry, I have nothing else to say. Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ Mark Iles, Tel: +44 (0113) 2065042 Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Fax: +44 (0113) 2340183 Genetic Epidemiology Laboratory, Ashley Wing, Email: iles at boreas.leeds.icnet.uk St James's University Hospital, Beckett Street, Leeds, LS9 7TF U.K. ____________________________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bajsjan at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 10:42:41 1998 From: bajsjan at xxx.com (jan thorneus) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 02:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: tribute Message-ID: <19981022094241.1428.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> Everyone who is going to be on the tribute tape is more than welcome to record more than one song, cus i dont think we are able to fill a whole cassette. So please record more than one song, but do not record any of these songs, cus there is allready a bunch of people doing 'em: String bean jean electronic renaissance Thats all. And my address is still: Jan Thorneus Hermes. v 23 98144 Kiruna Sweden Email: Bajsjan at yahoo.com Bye. Jan. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Thu Oct 22 11:36:40 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:36:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: B&S gigs Message-ID: <362F0AB8.256A6FD4@jeepster.co.uk> Hello everyone, just want to clear some stuff up about forthcoming gigs. to be honest, there aren't any planned for the forseeable future. the last conversation i had with neil about upcoming gigs was that once the band had returned from their east coast usa tour, they would think about what was going to happen next year gig-wise. if they hated touring then maybe they wouldn't go out again. the plan was always to schedule a southern european and west coast usa tour if they thought the other gigs went well and they were happy enough to do it all again. once neil + the band get back, i'm sure that they will start thinking about dates for next year, but they probably won't be until march-ish as they have other commitments over christmas/new year. with regards to a uk tour, the talk was possible dates in spring. i've also asked neil to consider dates in japan to co-incide with the end of the proposed west coast usa tour. and australia maybe too (possibly maybe ...) please don't be angry that they're not playing near you now. and please don't snap at other people who are fortunate enough to live near a city where the band are playing. i have learnt from experience that if you keep hoping long enough, your dreams will come true. (trust me, living in the most isolated city in the wrold for the first 20 years of my life you get used to dreaming ...) the duke's a wise man ... keep the faith. cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Arigreen23 at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 11:51:17 1998 From: Arigreen23 at xxx.com (Arigreen23 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 06:51:17 EDT Subject: Sinister: songs besides those by stuart murdoch/music Message-ID: <2b97f506.362f0e25@aol.com> hmm. I actually really like the other songs. and the piano part in the middle of seymour stein is like the peak of these parts...well ok even if chickfactor comes after seymour stein. I really like TWATTYBUS though---I play it just as much as sinister and the EPs... oh yea, people were doing the music they like thing for awhile, so: Beck, Ben Folds Five, radiohead, Modest Mouse, Apples in stereo, Blur, the Hi-Fives, eels, Yo La tengo, thelonious monk, railroad jerk, Cat Power, benny goodman, the lilys, superdrag, spacehog...and many many more of course. bye now! ari +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jaded10486 at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 12:11:20 1998 From: Jaded10486 at xxx.com (Jaded10486 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:11:20 EDT Subject: Sinister: Duncan Sheik Raves On About B&S In Rolling Stone.............. Message-ID: <6cefe586.362f12d8@aol.com> In the latest issue of Rolling Stone, singer Duncan Shriek has this to say about B&S in the Raves column of the mag: BELLE AND SEBASTIAN "I can be so picky about performances being perfect; their attitude is, 'Let's play some music and see how it comes out.' They just leave it like that, which is fantastic. I like that languorous adolescence-confused but intellectual and a little self-involved, which i guess I relate to." Hmmmmm.......included next to this quote is a caricature of Stuart M.'s head on a cat's body watching TV. Strange but nice to see in that horrible magazine. Excuse the typos it's 4.15 am in L.A. and the valium hasn't taken it's toll yet. Cheers, Jason +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Thu Oct 22 12:48:03 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:48:03 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! In-Reply-To: <00105AAD.CE21213@smlawpub.co.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Charlotte Hall wrote: > > Today's list penance for anything you might have done wrong is to sing > a line of Belle & Sebastian to everyone you meet. Oh yes. Even the > checkout girl at Sainsbury's. Tomorrow's list penance is devised by... > Stuart Gardiner. I like this game. OK then, today's penance is that for each thing you've said to someone on Sinister and regretted, you have to explain to one member of the opposite sex what an arab strap is. Bonus forgiveness if you give a demonstration. And I'll pass the penance parrot on to Tag, because I'm sure he's got more to apologise for than anyone else. Actually I probably ought to apologise to a certain listee for being drunk last night... The shark was nothing to do with me... Surely endurance has to be the entire 369 EP? Especially as it ends with Songs For Children... (And if anyone claims to manage a whole album, keep it to yourself or you'll make the rest of us feel very insecure) I'm developing another list crush. Does that make me unfaithful? I suppose so long as neither of you know who you are I'm safe for now... Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Thu Oct 22 13:25:35 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:25:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! References: Message-ID: <362F243F.4D424524@jeepster.co.uk> Stuart Gardiner wrote: > OK then, today's penance is that for each thing you've said to someone > on Sinister and regretted, you have to explain to one member of the > opposite sex what an arab strap is. Bonus forgiveness if you give a > demonstration. And I'll pass the penance parrot on to Tag, because I'm > sure he's got more to apologise for than anyone else. do i get anything for the cool/medical clarification in the FAQ? to quote; " 15. Just what is an 'arab strap'? An arab strap is a leather device that a man wears during sex to help enhance the experience. It is in the most primitive form simply a g-string made of leather, which has a ring of smooth steel that accomodates the penis. This ring is placed lower than is natural and as such forces the penis to stand out more, it is this unnatural position which causes the sensation to be enhanced and for the erection to be maintained. the difference between this and viagra is that on an arab strap the steel ring will also serve to increase the female sensation as it massages the clitoris during sex and helps to give the woman a more intense orgasm. " http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/faq/index.htm#15 anyone got a picture that i put alongside it? if so, mail it to me and i'll turn the b&s site into a XXX rated masterpiece yet ;) david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bryan.murphy at xxx.uk Thu Oct 22 13:38:08 1998 From: bryan.murphy at xxx.uk (bryan murphy) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:38:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: re:TRACY COLE Message-ID: I suddenly remembered a tale about an Ex-friend of mine. Once upon a time there was a girl from Essex called Michaela Barrett. She wasn't a very pretty girl but she left the wastelands of Essex and travelled up to the paradise that was Glasgow, where the young and impressionable Michaela was exposed to the harmonies and beauty of Belle and Sebastian, by a stranger who took pity upon the plight of this poor little girl. Now because Michaela was shy she didn't know how to tell the world how she felt about the love of her life, another girl by the name of Tracey Cole...some would say that this illicit homosexual relationship would have blossomed into a strong, poignant and powerful romance, but Michaela didn't know how to express herself. As a defense mechanism Michaela, became what her Scottish friends referred to as a "scunner". A "scunner" is a coniving, manipulative and devious bastard and people would line the streets to shout obscenities at her; F~?K OFF YOU ARROGANT BASTARD and such like. One day young Michaela went off to study at Stirling, which incidentally is full of other ugly and exceedingly unattractive people...so young Michaela was in good company. She could wax lyrical about her fascination with Belle & Sebastian, why she wore terylene pants, why she wanted to become a real man and why she couldn't go to the minister whenever she was feeling sinister. Anyway, to cut to the chase...Michaela left Stirling, went down to the Reading, where she tasted such fruits as she had never tasted before...and once again became an arrogant bastard, gave up her love of the heavenly Tracy Cole and lost the innocence of being in Glasgow. But finally she was home. And the moral of this story is...dont be a wanker! Love you Michaela > > >______________________________________________________ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Calumn.Shearer at xxx.uk Thu Oct 22 13:45:03 1998 From: Calumn.Shearer at xxx.uk (Shearer, Calumn) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:45:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Chris Tarrant's masochists Message-ID: Stu wrote: >---------- >From: Stuart Gardiner[SMTP:skg21 at xxx.uk] >Sent: Thursday, October 22, 1998 12:48 PM >Cc: sinister at majordomo.net >Subject: Sinister: Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! > >Surely endurance has to be the entire 369 EP? Especially as it ends with >Songs For Children... (And if anyone claims to manage a whole album, keep >it to yourself or you'll make the rest of us feel very insecure) > This conversation's reminded me of the book "Espedair Street" by Iain Banks (go read!) It's all about a rock (?) star called Wierd, and his life. It's a lot better than I make it out to be. honest! anyway, in one bit he's talking to a record company exec called Rick, who says something about how in the "old days" he could.....ahem..... make sweet love to the sound from all 3 disks of a concept album..... but nowadays he can't even manage an EP..... oh, and they recorded the book for Radio 4, as a sort of "musical biography" of the (fictional) band "Frozen Gold".... presented by Paul Gambachini. So that ties in quite nicely with the Gambachini thread too! It's nice to see our American cousins enjoying the shows (I wish I was there, I could carry the band's sexual apparatus or something!) but I must make a small confession... I did it. No, that wasn't it.... I had wondered why the band were playing on the east coast of the USofA..... and then flying to Greece to play in Athens. Doh! I really should have paid attention in geography class, but I was too busy pulling Lucy Black's hair..... serves me right for not paying attention to current affairs. and paying too muck attention to Lucy's hair. For the benefit of any "new people", my picture's not up at Honey's website (yet.....) but you can see Lucy (she's the one called St. Lucy) I'm off to insult good looking women so that I have toexplain to them what an arab strap is. I left mine at home today, otherwise i could have demonstrated! thicky-Calumn-thicky-Shearer-thicky Disclaimer: Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer, my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental. Any resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic. The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold them is left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god coefficient. (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is beyond the scope of this article.) and I was kidding about the St. Lucy thing....... but I did pull Lucy Black's hair in geography.... it's not big and it's not clever, but is _was_ a junior attempt at flirting...... besides, she pulled mine first. > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alerche at xxx.net Thu Oct 22 14:55:43 1998 From: alerche at xxx.net (Andre Vieira) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:55:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: smut with your clothes on Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981022145543.006c4f08@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net> >> Someone, probably someone called Jessica, suggested getting down to some >> low down dirty sweaty squelchy stuff to a soundtrack of B&S > >No, it was Cynthia, I remember, and I think the point she made (and how) >was that B&S is the soundtrack to innocent fumbles, before things get all >sticky and sweaty. Or maybe in the morning to wake up to and cuddle to, >afterwards...sorry, must stop this unhealthy topic line. Then again, the >title of TWATTYBUS tends to imply the band had more in mind... Not just the title, really. Since the hot topic at this point and time is s!m!u!t!, let me share my view on the album cover (something I've already mentioned to Keef and a couple of you during the UK gigs). You see, all the previous albums have girls on the cover. This time, the girl is nowhere to be seen. Same with the arab strap. All you see is Chris with his eyes closed and his mouth slightly opened, as if both the girl and the arab strap were down under, if you know what I mean. But then again, that's what came to my mind when I first saw the album cover on the Jeepster website, and you couldn't see the sword really well. Jessica Vieira. PS: I'm Sorry too, Charlotte. ******************************************************* happy for a day - some belle and sebastian thoughts contact us at: +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kebaer at xxx.edu Thu Oct 22 14:53:27 1998 From: kebaer at xxx.edu (Kara Baer) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:53:27 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Rain that won't Let Up Message-ID: Good Morning.. I've been lurking on the list for quite a while now. I've wanted to join in, but felt like the shy little girl at the playground...watching a game of hide and seek. It's been a rainy dreary morning down here in Southern Maryland, the kind of rain that sinks down into your soul so you feel soggy and waterlogged all day. I fell in love with B&S when our campus station recieved IYFS. I "borrowed" it and listened to it over and over. What grabbed me first was Stuart's voice. I adore lovely voices...for that reason I'm a huge Mama Cass fan, but I think you have to be(hee hee). I waited and waited for my copy of TBWTAS and finally broke down and bought the 3 EPs, even though I'm only a poor college student. I cashed in my pennies and nickels. Um..I'll be attending the Philadelphia and DC shows. I look forward to meeting you lovely people. I'm about 5'10 and I just shaved my head, so I should stick out in the crowd. I'm very excited. I'm taking the train to Philly and meeting my friend Beth, who goes to art school and also shaved her head on a totally unrelated occaision. She's living with 3 guys at the moment. One of them, Jean-Paul, lost something and had to go to Europe to find it. He calls and leaves messages from time to time to let them know he's still there and not in Philadelphia where he should be. I'll be going to Glasgow for a semester in January, and I would hate to have missed them. (Does anyone here attend the University of Glasgow? ) And about Nutella: When I was a little girl, I lived in Germany. (I had curly blond hair and a durndel) I remember coming inside out of the cold and my mother giving me half a brotchen, with Nutella. It was my favorite snack. Mmmmm nostalgic....I think someone mentioned pictures of Nutella in the snow. I'd love to see those. Love Kara PS Teri, I peeked around your website. It's lovely. "One way ticket take me anywhere, Northbound, Southbound I don't even care." Mama Cass Elliot +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From btobin at xxx.COM Thu Oct 22 15:00:06 1998 From: btobin at xxx.COM (btobin at xxx.COM) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:00:06 -0400 Subject: Sinister: The Boston Show Message-ID: <852566A5.004C53EF.00@MAIL.GCT.COM> Well, considering everyone in the crowd (you could hear a pin drop) knows every nuance of every song and wanted to hear them all, and this was the first gig of the tour, jetlag etc., they were great. they only played for about an hour so there were a lot of songs I would like to have heard, but... wanted more. when staurt played the piano, or toy keyboard, he disappeared from site, a bit disappointing when he sang the "hand over my mouth, hand over the window" song, and we couldn't see him. he mentioned since they were in Boston they should do a 15 minute version of Roadrunner (Jonathan Richman), and then did the first part of Boston's "More Than a Feeling." smashing stuff. Something seemed to have upset the woman who sings backup, did someone in the crowd say something nasty to her? Might explain why they did not do an encore, she was bummed. All in all, they were great and Stuart was very impressive, as was the whole band. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ETLRDHY at xxx.se Thu Oct 22 16:10:23 1998 From: ETLRDHY at xxx.se (ETLRDHY at xxx.se) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:10:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Compensation for being on the wrong side of the pond...... Message-ID: <002566A5.00531D25.00@notes.ericsson.se> Dear All, I just realised what a happy consequence of the B&S tour many miles away. All the personal reviews of the shows whixh are starting to trickle back onto the list. Cool. Keep em coming you guys. Richardxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 15:23:26 1998 From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:23:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I think we're alone now, Message-ID: <00e501bdfdc7$885b83a0$4429c22b@bond.broadcast> Kevan says >Someone, probably someone called Jessica, suggested getting down to some >low down dirty sweaty squelchy stuff to a soundtrack of Belle and Sebastian. >Surely the only music appropriate for such things is a smattering of Isaac >Hayes (for preliminary smoochiness) followed by the William Tell overture. > No, no, no, no. THE lurve makin' soundtrack has to be Lets Get It On, by Marvin Gaye. The ladies dig it. The most. And rather than the WTO can I suggest the Ode to Joy part from Bette's 9th followed by the ending of the 1812 Overture (big thrust at every cannon). Ok, its a bit of nuisance getting up to change the CDs (especially between Ode and 1812), but the overall effect is definitely worth it. Possibly. Bryan told us... >Once upon a time there was a girl from Essex called Michaela Barrett. >She wasn't a very pretty girl but she left the wastelands of Essex and >travelled up to the paradise that was Glasgow, where the young and >impressionable Michaela was exposed to the harmonies and beauty of Belle and >Sebastian, by a stranger who took pity upon the plight of this poor little girl. What a touching story - so sensitively told. It rings a bell though - has it ever been made into a film? Burt/Rachael gave us the Jive On page. Can someone do a B&S version of the Clickable Jive Guy? And lastly, a bit of old-fashioned smut: How can you tell which is the head nurse? The one with the dirty knees. The beating of our hearts is the only sound, Michael +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From darling at xxx.edu Thu Oct 22 15:28:43 1998 From: darling at xxx.edu (Stacey E Shackford) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:28:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: boston show....need the info Message-ID: hello.... so sorry to post this to the list and all, but i'm on deadline and need the info pronto.... first of all, of those who attended the boston show (or anyone else who may be able to answer this question actually) which band member was which? i know isobel and stuart and sarah obviously, but....the others i wasn't too sure about...i would especially like to know which it was that took over for stuart on a few occassions...seymore stein boy...hmmm...if anyone could help me with that i would greatly appreciate it... also...set list...here are my notes...i feel like i'm forgetting a song (namely song 5) and i'm not sure of the origin of song 2...i know songs 7 and 8 are brand spanking new but is 2 some old recorded song i just don't know about? help! 1. simple things 2. ?they let lisa go blind? 3. like dylan in the movies 4. is it wicked not to care 5. ??? 6. century of fakers 7. new-lord antony???-new 8. new-looking for my darling???-new 9. seeing other people 10. the boy with the arab strap 11. a spaceboy dream almost cover more than a feeling by boston...ha! 12. judy 13. get me away from here 14. boy done wrong 15. sleep the clock around a previous poster listed beautiful on their set list...is that song 2? eek! i guess those are my major questions...please email me privately (darling at student.umass.edu) asap with any info you can provide! i'll send you a million thanks back and maybe (if you're lucky) a copy of my sure to be lovely review...ahahahaha thanks kindly.... ~stacey shackford +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Thu Oct 22 17:13:26 1998 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (James M Errington) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:13:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I'm back again... Message-ID: <199810221507.QAA17079@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> Hello! it's me, WeeJay. Thankfully I finally sorted out how to get on the computers and well, here I am. The Southampton Instituete is a bit of a hole and my Halls are like a prison, but... no, sorry, I cant think of a reason why it's good. I have to confess I've been lurking for a few days, as I really couldn't think of anything to say... Well, now I have (listen carefully) Firstly, and most importantly, I'm thinking of introducing the list to someone who is very special to me. Do you think this is a good idea people? I'm not just talking casual acquaintance, I'm talking 'only-person-I-can-remember-telling-me-I-was-beautiful' style. She likes B&S quite a lot, and I'm planning to indoctrinate her further with a tape of Tigermilk, so, nice listie people, what do you think? What else... Oh yes. As a reward for reading this far, I'd like to offer an opportunity for any people with bands (in the UK) I've got involved with the in-college record label as an a&r person (but a nice one) and I'd like demo tapes from bands, the best of which will get to come down to Southampton and record a track in a proper studio with a proper producer for inclusion on a compilation album out next year. Mail me for further info. And talking of getting tapes through the post, the latest fruit of the tape tree to arrive was Ed Mason (?)'s tape. There was this Nick Drake track on it and, well, I'm impressed. I know there are lots of fans of his out there, so do any of you want to indoctrinate me by doing me a tape of his best stuff? Meanwhile, someone with a name with gopher in it said: > i just realized i posted my address to the list! please don't mail > bomb me! Don't worry - I've already posted my home telephone number. If there are nutters here they are quiet introverted ones. It's good to be back, WeeJay XXX James at twopounds.u-net.com Manipulating you illicitly since 1979 http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From janine at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 17:28:47 1998 From: janine at xxx.com (Janine Papp) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:28:47 -0500 Subject: Sinister: a very silly post. Message-ID: ok, so I have finally made another convert to B&S... my sister. the first time she heard them, she said "what is this crap?" and I wouldn't talk to her for an hour (ok, not an hour - maybe 10 minutes.) Anyway, now she's starting to like them, though, and she's going to the show in Philly!! yesssss! then she said "maybe I'll meet some cute senstive belle and sebastian-liking boys at the show." so, boys, go find her. She's great. Her name is Jess da Mess. She'll be the one who's shouting and falling over. She's a big, tall girl with short dark brown hair and a cute little nose ring. she's adorable, you'll love her. She's loud and obnoxious and the funniest person you'll ever meet. she says she'll probably wear a silver shirt to the show. she's friendly. so go talk to her. tell her I sent you. (oh, and just so the girls aren't left out, I have two cute boys in my band who need dates too. one looks like elvis costello and likes the smiths. the other one hates the smiths but loves sunny day real estate and is more bitter and cynical. they're both vegans.) oh, nutella - I once had a baaaad experience with nutella, I don't think I should share, I don't want to ruin it for those of you who love the stuff. queen bee janine +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Oct 22 16:30:46 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:30:46 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Kinky Kitchen Utensils Message-ID: <01bdfdd0$f104f220$LocalHost@itjfvkli> On the day that Katrina told us that our dreams WILL come true, and David informed us of the massaging bonus effects of arab strap use (which I still don't understand, by the way...does it stop your Captain Mainwaring from standing fully to attention? Wouldn't that hurt? And isn't your clitoris up your bum? How does it massage up there?), I can think of nothing to say other than to point out a possibilty for UK listees to "enjoy" a bit of Dylan in the movies. According to my link with the outside world, Q, Channel 4 are showing "The Last Waltz", Martin Scorsese's film of The Band's final concert (I think) with lots of special guests, including Dylan. I watched this film once, and I thought it was absolute shit (apart from the monumental Staple Singers) from a musical point of view. But the behind the scenes stuff between songs is really good, especially if you like suffering and pain. My favourite moment is when the one with a beard and a wierd wahtahmelluns look in his eye explains what he likes best about touring, which is of course referred to as "the road". Sadly, I don't know what this man's name is, but I want to be like him. It's on tomorrow, according to Q, and it'll probably be on late at night, so you can video it and fast forward through the rubbish bits. Whilst researching my upcoming Northern Soul showdown, I happened upon the following: "Lynne signs her letters with "Keep the Faith". Lynne is a civil servant during the week. Lynne works in a newsagent on a Sunday morning. Lynne is into Northern Soul." and, perhaps even more revealingly: "But Keith is constantly on the floor, Keith is a good dancer, dedicated at it, elastic legs for it, hair blown specially for it." No further comment is necessary, I feel. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mneimark at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 16:43:27 1998 From: mneimark at xxx.com (Matthew Neimark) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:43:27 PDT Subject: Sinister: B&S in boston Message-ID: <19981022154327.7581.qmail@hotmail.com> Again a wonderful experience to see one of my favorite bands. This time I also had the opportunity to see them with 700 other nice people. Although Boston isn't known for its preshow meet ups, ours happened to be some 400 people crowded outside the auditorium 1 hour before doors opened. "Organize Yourselves" demanded Middle East Nazi Bilbo Baggins (who one year earlier yelled at Stephen Pastel for not being able to get his equipment out of the club on time before closing). But not even his pleas were able to straighten the line to the auditorium or alleve the pressures of some 50 odd people pushing me up the steps. Inside the venue I had the hellish task of organizing (i.e reserving seats for) a group of 8 people separated in the frenzy of lining up to get into the show. As I am frantically trying to reserve a seat, a young smiling sandy blond hair boy with a scottish accent is trying to procure a seat for his friend. He asks me if the one of the seats I am leaning over is reserved. My realisation that this was the lead singer of the headlining band was gradual and came in an epiphanic wave. I was speechless as I humbly relinquished my seat to his friend (fortunately, my girlfriend had found some seats in the next row). Later I would see Stuart M. laughing at the people, including myself, in front of the Tshirt venders frantically holding out their money. Containe was the opening band. I guess they are a sort of American indie-rock super group who sported (for the show) members of Versus, Pacific Ocean, and Yo La Tengo. I think they were great. They played the song they are probably most known for (the "I want to fuck you song"). The set was short (~5 songs) but the last song (does anyone know its name or where it comes from) really brought down the house. I and others agreed it was incredible. The Belle and Sebastian set was wonderful but whenever I see them (this was the third time) I am always faced with the (probably pathologic) paradox that although I am being raised to angelic heights through the experience, I am saddened that the show can't go on for ever and before I know it is over, and it was over. Our pleas for an encore went unheard but were nontheless quite expected. If Isobel feared that US audiences would not appreciate B&S, she was happily mistaken in Boston at least. Actions that would normally quite easily cause a crowd to turn on the performer (such as Stuart forgetting his riffs to Judy and the Dream of Horses) only further endeared the band. It seems as if all the US shows are already sold out and even the Tshirts are already sold out. 3 of the people in my office went to the show including myself and my officemate Zung has TBWTAS on repeat now (he does this to music). Other pleasant events that passed that evening involved a nice chat (whose topics included antidepressants and herbal relaxants) with the kind people in the band Toulouse (my favorite American band). (They are playing a free show at the MIT coffee house with Aden and the Aluminum Group and if anyone wants details I'd be happy to relinquish them via email.) Their new single on Scotland's Tinseltone records is fantastic. And their lead singer and guitarist is back to stay in Boston which is literally music to my ears. Matt ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mjs2 at xxx.net Thu Oct 22 17:12:16 1998 From: mjs2 at xxx.net (mathew schwartz) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:12:16 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Stuart at the Michael Stipe show (Boston) Message-ID: <199810221619.MAA10962@underneath.sentrytech.com> Excellent show last night, as everyone can attest. Especially liked the (chord) "They let Lisa ... oh shit" (wrong chord) routine from Stuart, when he had to go off to the side with the guitarist and get a quick refresher. I think I can trace his confusion to earlier in the day. Before the show, I was checking out the Michael Stipe photograph show -- 2x Intro, a record of a Pattie Smith tour. (Don't quit your day job, Michael!) It's in the basement of the concert auditorium, and people were scurrying about trying to prepare rooms for the band to hang out in. So I'm rounding the corner and this blond bloke with a British-type jumper -- you know, horizontal red stripes, high stiff collar, zipper -- and a clipboard (learning last minute songs?) looks up at me. I think, hmm, he looks familiar and sure enough it's Stuart, checking out the Michael Stipe show. So what does one do in this situation, confronted by a brilliant yet shy singer? Ask for a photo? Joke about haggus? I smiled, anyway .... minutes later he was running off towards some blue doors and the concert people were yelling "No, that's the wrong door, Stuart! Stuart ?!!" but I guess he found his way back ... -- mat +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fjf at xxx.edu Thu Oct 22 17:17:40 1998 From: fjf at xxx.edu (Joe Frese) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:17:40 -0400 Subject: Sinister: mp3s? Message-ID: <3.0.32.19981022121740.00699e90@pop.cwru.edu> i looked through the archive, and didn't see much info about it, so i figured i might as well bring it up here . . . i apologize in advance if the subject is taboo for some reason, but how does the band/record company feel about the distribution of rare/unreleased/live belle and sebastian songs in mp3 format? i'd really like to share some of the stuff i've got (not that i've got a whole lot) with those fans on this list less fortunate than i, and the easiest and fastest way to do it would probably be to either email them mp3's or post the mp3's on the web somewhere . . . but of course i won't do it if it's against the band's wishes . . . joe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jgockley at xxx.edu Thu Oct 22 17:36:09 1998 From: jgockley at xxx.edu (Jessica Gockley) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:36:09 -0400 Subject: Sinister: a very silly post. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981022123609.006a2d34@beacon.eastern.edu> Janine the Queen Bee is trying to fix her sister up with cute sensitive Belle and Sebastian liking boys at the Philadelphia show. Her sister, appropriately, is named Jess. I thought it would be only proper here to remind you all that there are other available Philadelphia Jesses who like Belle and Sebastian, who like boys who like Belle and Sebastian. So don't fret if you aren't the first one to get to Queen Bee Janine's sister. (Janine, are you going to have your Elvis Costello lookalike friend go to the post-show party...?) Still looking for that perfect list crush, Jess "The world is a wonderful place to be born into if you don't mind happiness not always being so very much fun, if you don't mind a touch of hell now and then just when everything is fine" - Lawrence Ferlinghetti Jessica Gockley | Box 326 Eastern College | 1300 Eagle Road | St Davids, PA 19087 | 610-225-5403 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Angelina.DeGiovanni at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 16:47:35 1998 From: Angelina.DeGiovanni at xxx.com (Angelina.DeGiovanni at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:47:35 -0400 Subject: Sinister: subscribe sinister Message-ID: <852566A5.0056B630.00@v2music.com> subscribe sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From his8jm at xxx.UK Thu Oct 22 18:37:09 1998 From: his8jm at xxx.UK (J. MURTAGH) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:37:09 GMT Subject: Sinister: what in the heel! Message-ID: <199810221638.RAA19059@mps3.leeds.ac.uk> I was reading that someone in the States said that rolling stone magazine was horrible! or as I'd say 'orrible!. I'm glad there's some dissenting voices in mercantile land coz I really don't understand why that magazine is still afloat and in circulation! It's bollocks! I've read it plenty of times in HMV in London just to see who's getting big over there and who is popular yet all I get is the usual photos of Puff Daddy 'can't rap' and the obligatory bowing down to of one of the Beatles. And even more sucky is the pompous 'serious' pages of the crummy mag, yes I think we know America is essentially corpulent and derogatorally lard arses, what you just found that out? Yes I am comparing this magazine to British ones, but bloody hell you need some of our editors over there to give you some titles to read. This magazine is hopeless. John Agree or disagree? SMALL PRINT READS this is not a political statement, nor is it a financially gaining one, I do not hate Americans I just felt robbed in Independence Day and Saving Private Ryan, Don't take this too seriously I'm just bored. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iles at xxx.uk Thu Oct 22 18:50:24 1998 From: iles at xxx.uk (Mark Iles) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:50:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Arab Strap enquiry In-Reply-To: <199810221423.PAA06803@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: David kindly explained: >An arab strap is a leather device that a man wears during sex to help >enhance the >experience. It is in the most primitive form simply a >g-string made of leather, which has a ring of smooth steel that >accomodates the >penis. This ring is placed lower than is natural and as such >forces the penis to stand out more, it is this unnatural position which >causes the >sensation to be enhanced and for the erection to be >maintained. the difference between this and viagra is that on an arab >strap the >steel ring will also serve to increase the female sensation as it >massages the clitoris during sex and helps to give the woman a more intense >orgasm. Maybe I'm just a little too innocent or just plain confused, but if this ring is down at the base of the penis, then how does it get anywhere near the clitoris? If it turns out I've said something silly, I'm going to go all red. Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ Mark Iles, Tel: +44 (0113) 2065042 Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Fax: +44 (0113) 2340183 Genetic Epidemiology Laboratory, Ashley Wing, Email: iles at boreas.leeds.icnet.uk St James's University Hospital, Beckett Street, Leeds, LS9 7TF U.K. ____________________________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Thu Oct 22 17:52:49 1998 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksandaJill) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:52:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: See you in line in PHILLY! Message-ID: <199810221652.MAA84818@dept.english.upenn.edu> Just one more day till the big show...and from what the Beans tell us things are going really well for B&S, so I'm looking even more forward to it. For the listies who are going to be sitting in line at the Trocadero tomorrow, I'm going to be there handing out little flyers I made for our band's after-show (at the Balcony above the Trocadero). Why not say hi? My band is Clock Strikes Thirteen and the event is free to 21+ B&S attendees--just go right upstairs after B&S finish and voila. Anyway, I shouldn't be hard to spot--just don't confuse me with the people handing out religious advertisements or things like that.:) I have a good feeling not only about the show but about meeting some of you members--I actually think I like this list more than I like the band. (Gasp! Heresy! Well, too bad, it's true.) Definitely a lovey-dovey, tight-knit bunch who know how use their genitals when pressed. I have to feel kinship, there's no choice. Anyone going to the B&S party after the show as well? (organized by Julie G. and Matt Snyder?) Might as well make a weekend of it. Tomorrow... Xavier -- BXK "It's recess everywhere bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu but in his heart." http://www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 --Ralph Wiggum X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Kbierfelt at xxx.org Thu Oct 22 18:05:00 1998 From: Kbierfelt at xxx.org (Kristin Bierfelt (MFA)) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:05:00 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Philly show Message-ID: < Message-ID: <362F63F6.920644CC@jeepster.co.uk> although we will continue to turn a blind eye to all the tapes tha circulate the globe (of tigermilk , rarities and live tapes), when it comes to any of them turning into a digital format we will always take the same stance. we will not grant permission for ANY of the sound of any of the bands on jeepster to be distributed and published in any digital format. we will also pursue this further and any that we do discover we will take action against. in the case of radio sessions we will leave it to the BBC, for the rest it would be passed onto Sony Publishing (where publishing is being breached) or instruct our lawyers to pursue legal action. in the case of mp3's, wav or real audio files being stored for download or distributed on the net. we will not hesitate to take action against the person responsible and any parties that aid the person reponsible. this means that if you put illegal mp3's on your site not only will we pursue you, we will also pursue the company that hosts your site - in most cases this will simply result in ISP's closing whatever accounts you have with them as per your license agreement that you signed when you subscribed to their service. i know the wording of this may appear harsh, but the band have always expressed their desire to prevent any of their music to be taken out of context. as a label we also wish to retain all (p) and (c) notifications and prevent the sound from being used without our knowledge. as distributing music files breaches both of these intentions we feel we have to take a stand. this message will hopefulyl reside in the archives and appear if anyone searches for this topic again, to aid this, excuse the keywords at the bottom which should mean that it turns up in more searches. thank you for your patience, and sorry joe if this seems harsh, the record occasionally needs to be set straight, and this is one for the archives :) -- Joe Frese wrote: > i apologize in advance if > the subject is taboo for some reason, but how does the band/record company > feel about the distribution of rare/unreleased/live belle and sebastian > songs in mp3 format? i'd really like to share some of the stuff i've got > (not that i've got a whole lot) with those fans on this list less fortunate > than i, and the easiest and fastest way to do it would probably be to > either email them mp3's or post the mp3's on the web somewhere . . . but of > course i won't do it if it's against the band's wishes . . . cheers david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- keywords: tigermilk CD, bootlegs, live recordings, mp3, audio, sound, illegal, dub, extract, legal. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lapis at xxx.edu Thu Oct 22 18:12:07 1998 From: lapis at xxx.edu (dave cohen) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:12:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: philly gig Message-ID: <199810221712.NAA04734@pobox.upenn.edu> hullo breitlings will probably miss the pre/post show gatherings but should anyone care to say hullo at the show just look for the fellow in the sniper friendly [so i'm told...] turquoise beret usually easily spot-able in a crowd also generally better to call out lapis [rather than dave] as there are fewer wandering about... be seeing you --lapis +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From akumulator at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 18:18:28 1998 From: akumulator at xxx.com (paul dean) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:18:28 EDT Subject: Sinister: Boston Set List Message-ID: <19981022171829.13896.qmail@hotmail.com> I think ?? had it pretty spot on with.. SIMPLE THINGS BEAUTIFUL JUDY BWTAS DYLAN SPDREAM (with Neil on Bass!) SLEEP THE CLOCK AROUND BOY DONE WRONG GET ME AWAY FROM HERE SEEING OTHER PEOPLE CENTURY FAKERS also 2 which Stuart said were "new ones" They finished with 'Sleep The Clock Around' - The new ones were 'Lord Anthony' which was fab & 'The Wrong Girl' (i think) which was fabber. Did they play TWG in Europe as I've never heard mention of it before. Isobel told me that Stevie didn't want to play it last night as he thinks that it may offend Americans! p.s the support were called Containe & were interesting merely for the fact that Georgia from Yo La Tengo was playing drums... S'later PD - she wants my children & my bed of roses - ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chigger88 at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 18:25:19 1998 From: chigger88 at xxx.com (Burt Reynolds) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:25:19 PDT Subject: Sinister: 9th and hennipen Message-ID: <19981022172520.26505.qmail@hotmail.com> Someone with obvious good taste wrote: >As a shared love of Tom Waits seams to be involved in all the greatest of my >friendships, I am quite keen for the person who keeps mentioning him to get in >touch, I have a plan to have a tom waits fan friend on every continent. To continue with TWO threads, i.e., Tom Waits and Celebrity sightings... I worked at this bar/coffee shop for a couple of weekends in Petaluma California. I was just helping out a friend. One particularly dead Saturday, this scruffy guy shambled in. He sat at the bar and ordered a red wine in his patented whiskey-stained voice. A red wine. Merlot to be exact. I brought the glass back to him and gushed on and on about how much a loved his music. I chattered at him incoherently for an eternity. Watching myself in horror, I was finally able to shut up. I told him the wine was on the house. He said, "No, no, no, no...let me pay for it." Which he did. I felt like a complete moron. Thank god I didn't ask for his autograph. Next time: A big tip from Don Johnson Yers, Rachael ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From goon_koch at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 18:28:12 1998 From: goon_koch at xxx.com (Goon Koch) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:28:12 PDT Subject: Sinister: philly, t-shirts, soccer Message-ID: <19981022172812.29756.qmail@hotmail.com> How to describe the anticipation I have for the upcoming shows? There is constantly at least an inch of air between my steel-toed shoes and the ground. When I�m sitting at my desk and staring at drawings and design documents there is only one thing going around and around in my head and it is: �central location for you is a must/as you stagger about making free/with your lewd and lascivious boasts� and just about the whole time I�m swiveling around in my chair and clicking my fingers. And as I�m staggering about, er, I mean striding purposefully about the grounds of the Great Benevolent Pharmaceutical Company (sometimes with hard hat and sometimes without) I quietly hum to myself and the whole time I�m thinking �all these people are probably thinking thoughts that could best be described in mathematical or chemical symbols and I wonder what they would think if they knew that I was thinking about girls who dream of horses.� What I like the best about Belle and Sebastian is that for the first time this band-that-I�m-totally-into doesn�t make me feel cooler, or better informed, or ahead of my time, or endowed with better taste than the droves of schlubs who are taking off early from work as we speak to buy the new Alanis Morrissette album. Belle and Sebastian make me: - glad to be alive - happy that there are other people who revel in the wonderful mysteries and minutiae that make life interesting. - want to keep a journal and do creative things. - want to treat people with respect and affection. And I think it�s great that the primary agenda of sinisterites, as far as I can tell, is not record collection fetishism. In fact, there is no main agenda. Well, ok, this week it�s witty smuttiness . . . In a little more than twenty-four hours I will be one of the first to stand in line outside the Trocadero, jumping up and down to keep from freezing and generally working myself into a joyful frenzy. I�m determined to stand up front because that way I will actually block the fewest people�s view. And I will tell the band that everything is cool and that we all think they�re great and would they please come back real soon. But of course we don�t want to put too much pressure on them or seem creepy or make the tour more stressful than it already is. And I may offer them some PEZ. I too have converted my sister to celebrate the gospel of Belle and Sebastian. It was not a hard sell. We�re very different, but when it comes to the really important things we�re on the same wavelength. Where am I going to find some daisies? How did this PEZ thing get started? Can somebody who was at the Boston gig tell me about the commercial activities conducted there? Is the full line of B&S merchandising available at the U.S. gigs? How much are the shirts? Is the blue Stow College shirt available. Is it true that the shirts are available only in S, M and L? Why is that? Everybody else only makes XL so this must be a conscious decision. I can understand that the band would want to enforce certain aesthetic standards and not encourage ghastly sartorial habits such as the lazy wearing of oversized shirts by the waif-like. But then there are those of us who genuinely cannot fit into a large. I�m six-three with wide shoulders. Does this mean I�m damned to trudge through my dreary existence without the consolation of a Belle and Sebastian raiment? And I really shouldn�t bring this up, but the dimensions of Americans have already been discussed at great length and with much bloodshed on this list . . . (it�s a joke; don�t flame me; nobody�s fat but even if they were there wouldn�t be anything wrong with it) What's this I hear now, the t-shirts are sold out? All of them? Oh, sad tomato is absolutely right. I was at Disney World too recently and it was chock full of families invariably gathered around a short, belligerent-looking fellow wearing a brightly colored polyester top with either �Carlsberg,� �JVC� or �Sharp� across his chest. Most Americans aren�t really familiar with this phenomenon and don�t get close enough to read the fine print on the little patch, but I have a red �Carlsberg� kit of my own that I wear on the pitch sometimes, so I can decipher some of these symbols. I think the kits are worn in the Florida heat for the very same reason that Sir Edmund Hillary dragged a little Union Jack all the way up Everest. I mean, wearing your colors at Anfield, Highbury or Old Trafford is a little redundant, but when you go abroad you�d like people to know that you have values and stand for something and can�t be counted on to do anything useful on Saturdays. And also to express your contempt for everybody else. Sorry about the length, but you know I am excited about those gigs . . . -g. k.- will not be wearing a blue "McEwan's" kit in the first row at the Troc. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chigger88 at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 18:31:25 1998 From: chigger88 at xxx.com (Burt Reynolds) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:31:25 PDT Subject: Sinister: o athens, how i love thee Message-ID: <19981022173126.4898.qmail@hotmail.com> The lovely Rebecka wrote: >athens georgia...is a beuatiful place although I've never been there, >but the city has a great musicscene all due to the elephant 6 >collective..and the nice people i know there..I'm saving so I can go >there... Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Elephant 6 based in Colorado? Olivia Tremor Control and Neutral Milk Hotel are FROM Athens, but Elephant 6 is based in Denver. Two posts in one day, I am greedy... Yers in perpetuity, Rachael ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Thu Oct 22 18:44:14 1998 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksandaJill) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:44:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Philly Post-B&S Pawty Info... Message-ID: <199810221744.NAA25914@dept.english.upenn.edu> OK, here's the scoop on the B&S post-show party. The address is 3957 Baltimore Avenue, home of Julie Gerstein. How to get there from the Troc: --VIA CAR: The Troc is at 1003 Arch Street (something like that). Going north to south the streets go Arch, Market, Chestnut, Walnut, Locust, Spruce, Pine, Lombard, South. (just for your reference) The only ones that go west (the ones you want) are Market, Walnut, Spruce and Lombard. One-way streets, gotta love 'em. I would recommend going south on any odd-numbered street (9th or 11th will work best) until you hit Walnut. Turn right (west) onto Walnut and just cruise right on up to 38th Street (you'll pass out of Center City, go over the bridge, and enter University City). Once you're on 38th, turn left onto 38th (south) until you hit Spruce. Turn right (west) onto Spruce and continue until you hit 40th Street. Turn left (south) onto 40th Street and start to look for parking! Once you're on 40th the streets you'll hit are Pine and then Baltimore...so you could even get parking on Spruce and just walk on over to 3957 Baltimore. --VIA SUBWAY: Go to a subway station at 8th and Market or 11th and Market. You want the blue line (Market-Frankford) going to 69th Street (west). Once you get to the 15th/City Hall stop *or* the 30th Street Station stop on the blue line, get out and transfer to the green line (Subway Surface), which will come in individual trolleys. Then you take this to 40th Street and get out there. You'll be on 40th and Baltimore, and then it's just a hop, skip and a jump away to 3957 Baltimore. Whew! I feel like Mr. Tour Guide. Anyone want to know of some good vegetarian Chinese restaurants while I'm at it? (The Trocadero is located in Chinatown) Xavier -- BXK "It's recess everywhere bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu but in his heart." http://www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 --Ralph Wiggum X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 18:42:34 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:42:34 GMT Subject: Sinister: Three hail Mary's and a packet of crisps Message-ID: <36326e00.327243@post.demon.co.uk> Hello Peasants, What on earth did that freakishly tall man with the knicker elastic lubricant mean when he said I had more to apologise for than anyone else? I have no conscience, not even a clear one. My penance...let me see... Anyone who insists on sending posts to this list which are NOT positively dripping with gratuitous innuendo and salacious (preferably libellous) rumour-mongering about either band members or fellow listees should go out, find the nearest railings, and lick them until their tongues are sore. To avoid such a terrible humiliation, here's an example of the kind of lurid filth I'd like to see more of... Peter Miller has no willy. ...see, it's easy. My nomination for the next penance parrot goes to..... Count Ludwig von Fitchett, alias the Duke of Haringay. What horrible torture will he dish out from his vampiric lair? Talking of endurance shagging (which I wasn't, but you lot were), Serge Gainsbourg, when asked if the sounds of carnal pleasure on "Je t'aime...moi non plus" were genuine, replied "Of course not, it's only a single. If it was real, it would be a long player". Must go, Christina Ricci is calling. Love Tag xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kimpostor at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 18:49:04 1998 From: kimpostor at xxx.com (Kimberly Forrette) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981022174904.24288.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> good morning childrens i know it's not my job, cause it's not my party, but y'all should know there IS a party... after/before the Philly show-- the info's at the B*S website under "meet-ups" (guh!) so go there and get the info and go to the party. or just go upstairs after the party so we can all meet and coo over how good the show was, or will be, depending on what time we're cooing. see you in Philly childrens. if they follow you, don't look back, it's kim _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kristian.drew at xxx.net Thu Oct 22 12:03:04 1998 From: kristian.drew at xxx.net (Kristian Drew) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:03:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk mint cond. album 4 sale Message-ID: <362F10E8.571@virgin.net> Hello everyone I am a new subscriber. I know you guys don't appreciate commercial selling stuff but I have a Tigermilk vinyl mint condition album which I'd like to sell and I was wondering if any of you have any suggestions as to where I should be going for offers. Funny, I thought this place may be as good as any to start. So if any of you are inerested, please contact me. Thanks. Kristian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Thu Oct 22 18:51:52 1998 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksandaJill) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:51:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Yet more Philly show party info Message-ID: <199810221751.NAA57074@dept.english.upenn.edu> Some contact info for the organizers of this event. Julie Gerstein (the inhabitant) julieger at mail.sas.upenn.edu (215) 222-3568 Matt Snyder (the friend) mwsnyder at eniac.seas.upenn.edu (215) 587-9268 They know more about this than I...so call 'em, mail 'em. -- BXK "It's recess everywhere bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu but in his heart." http://www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 --Ralph Wiggum X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From J_Fogel at xxx.EDU Thu Oct 22 18:51:39 1998 From: J_Fogel at xxx.EDU (j_fogel) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:51:39 -0400 Subject: Sinister: The Boston Show Message-ID: <01J39UVLGCE4002BJH@WESLEY.IT.EMERSON.EDU> >===== Original Message From btobin at GCT.COM ===== >Something seemed to have upset the woman who sings backup, did someone in >the crowd say something nasty to her? do u consider Isobel the "backup woman"????????????????? thats pretty insulting!!! yah she did seem in a bad mood but i think she just wasn't feeling alright, she sneezed a few times and looked rather ill... but yes..the show WAS AMAZING!!!!!!! > > > > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Thu Oct 22 17:01:55 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:01:55 -0400 Subject: Sinister: boston show Message-ID: so i went to the boston show last night (as some of you may know). instead of giving a long and involved synopsis of the show, i just thought i'd mention a few of my favorite bits. 1) the performance of a space boy dream. it was amazing. just a whole lot of people on stage playing lots of music. it was a party. 2) hanging out with some of the band, etc. after the show. they're really nice. (and now i have a big fat crush on wee chris) okay, well i had more favorites than that, but i have to go to class soon. so here's a little ink polaroid i wrote of an, erm, event last night (written in my little ink photo album that stuart david so kindly signed for me). this one was taken before the boston show, while we were waiting outside. that's emily with the bobbed hair and black shoulder bag. that brown peice of paper on her bag is actually a sign we made to attract possible listees. it says: "are you from sinister? so are we." it was initially pinned to my back, but i got sick of having it there. so we put it on Emily. nobody responded to it tho. pity. it was such a nice sign. -kerry "here i am, this is me. i am yours and everything about me, everything you see . . . if you only look hard enought." -tindersticks, "my sister" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Thu Oct 22 17:06:25 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:06:25 -0400 Subject: Sinister: boston setlist Message-ID: so not only did i write down the songs as they were played, but i got a setlist off the stage (it's sarah's. says so on the top.) so here it is. simple things beautiful like dylan in the movies is it wicked not to care a century of fakers lord anthony the wrong girl seeing other people the boy with the arab strap a spaceoby dream (did i already mention that this one blew me away?) judy and the dream of horses (with about 10 restarts because stuart m. couldn't get one of the chords right). get me away from here i'm dying the boy done wrong again sleep the clock around (with some mussed up lyrics by stuart m. and i somewhat evil glance coming from isobel due to those mussed up lyrics). -kerry "here i am, this is me. i am yours and everything about me, everything you see . . . if you only look hard enought." -tindersticks, "my sister" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chigger88 at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 19:00:08 1998 From: chigger88 at xxx.com (Burt Reynolds) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:00:08 PDT Subject: Sinister: o athens, how i love thee Message-ID: <19981022180008.29120.qmail@hotmail.com> The lovely Rebecka wrote: >athens georgia...is a beuatiful place although I've never been there, >but the city has a great musicscene all due to the elephant 6 >collective..and the nice people i know there..I'm saving so I can go >there... Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Elephant 6 based in Colorado? Olivia Tremor Control and Neutral Milk Hotel are FROM Athens, but Elephant 6 is based in Denver. Two posts in one day, I am greedy... Yers in perpetuity, Rachael ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Christian.Jensen at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 19:02:00 1998 From: Christian.Jensen at xxx.com (Chris Jensen) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Yet more Philly show party info Message-ID: <19981022180209.MUGK649@localHost> I'll bring the notdogs on wheels.. Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:51 -0400 (EDT) From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksandaJill) To: sinister at majordomo.net Reply-To: bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu (FourJacksandaJill) Subject: Sinister: Yet more Philly show party info Some contact info for the organizers of this event. Julie Gerstein (the inhabitant) julieger at mail.sas.upenn.edu (215) 222-3568 Matt Snyder (the friend) mwsnyder at eniac.seas.upenn.edu (215) 587-9268 They know more about this than I...so call 'em, mail 'em. -- BXK "It's recess everywhere bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu but in his heart." http://www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 --Ralph Wiggum X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 19:05:41 1998 From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:05:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ohh, baby do you know what thats woth?, Message-ID: <005701bdfde6$952fb8c0$4429c22b@bond.broadcast> Alex McFerguson asked us > To avoid such a terrible humiliation, here's >an example of the kind of lurid filth I'd like to see more of... > >Peter Miller has no willy. You mean things like 'the Fat Slug sucks the one-eyed milkman'?. Or 'Bryan eats the peanuts off Phil Collins' jobbies'? That kind of stuff? A character from a Mario game said >will not be wearing a blue "McEwan's" kit in the first row at the Troc. Good. A green and white Umbro one would be much cooler. I've got way too little work to do. Next high powered decision I have to make - Daft Punk or Sophie Zelmani? We'll make heaven a place on earth, Michael PS Up yours, Tintin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Kbierfelt at xxx.org Thu Oct 22 19:10:00 1998 From: Kbierfelt at xxx.org (Kristin Bierfelt (MFA)) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:10:00 -0400 Subject: Sinister: the Troc, midterms, smut, & Chinese food Message-ID: <> I can assure you that there is no such organization there. :) If y'all can't get toward the front, best hang out by the bar (where a girl formerly known as Rage-Against-the-Megan used to work, wonder if she's still there?) and maybe you can boost yourself up over the heads of the kids in front of you. The good thing about that place is the floor is a bit sloped, and so short girls like me don't have to always not see anything. (Like the Pontiac Grille on South St., where line-backer high schoolers form walls of shoulders across an already way-too-narrow space.) The bad thing is that it's so stinkin' wide that you feel like you're far away from the bands. T-shirts are usually sold in this little alcove-y place to the right of the vestibule. Probably a good idea not to wait until after the show to get stuff. This is the first time I'll be there for a non-punk rock show. How strange will it be not to see the straight-edge thugs all hefting around in their Stackhouse jerseys with gothic tattooing across their shoulder blades. Hey, since it's not a punk show, maybe I CAN get close to the front since there'll be no mosh pit. How lovely! So I was sitting there this morning, at Morse, taking a test, trying to imagine what the scene was like last night with all the pop stars that were running around. I'm psyched it was good. Hope they play Space Boy Dream in Philly too. By the way, B&S are yummy for early morning, sleepy, oh-hey-all-of-a-sudden-we're-having-sex sex. Or so I've recently discovered. ;) < Just so y'all know... There's a WONDEFUL show at the PMA (http://www.libertynet.org/pma/) now: Cornell and Duchamp. Cornell made these wonderful little boxes and diorama things and was the world's greatest pack rat. All sparkles and fairies and snowy woods. He had an Emily Dickinson thing too. I wrote a paper about him in college: http://members.aol.com/Rubyof44/cornell/cornell1.html And Duchamp, well, everyone knows Duchamp and the Bride with her Bachelors and R. Mutt's toilet etc... I wrote this essay (which is at the end of the site I just listed) about how Cornell was all indierock before his time. I'm a big geek, I know. And the Cy Twombly room (50 days at Iliam series of paintings) is near-religious. Please go if you're just bumming around before the show. It's open until 5, so you'd have plenty of time to get back to the Troc first. One of the best 20th century collections in the country, best I've had a chance to see yet at least. xo, Kris, who needs to subscribe to the digest because this is just too damn distracting at work... :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Thu Oct 22 19:25:29 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:25:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: My God, Symposium are shit. In-Reply-To: <199810220851.JAA25944@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000401bdfde9$58ad4680$1a577ec2@whelan> K'la wrote.... "I'm confused now 'cos somebody said > As for ridicule, surely dragging people round the schoolyard by the >loop thing on the top/back of the hood was much more fun. and that's undermined my fundamental belief that the sole purpose of those things was to attach the unfortunate soul to the metal bars on the back on the bus seat, with hilarious results when it got to their stop. I am amazed to find these things were multi purpose, perhaps somebody knows of another use, (primitive adolescent Arab strap perhaps?)" You've just reminded me of another use as well. Zipping the hood right up into "honestly I'm not a scary stalker type person" mode and slipping the loop type thing over a coat hook in the cloakroom. Cue literally minutes of fun watching the poor sod try to get themselves free. I just remembered, I had another Lord Anthony coat, this one was more of a jacket, but this was no ordinary jacket. Oh no.... it had detachable sleeves. I'm buggering off now, bye Arthur Mullard +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lapis at xxx.edu Thu Oct 22 19:31:57 1998 From: lapis at xxx.edu (dave cohen) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:31:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: philly gig: veggie chinese restaurant Message-ID: <199810221831.OAA14525@pobox.upenn.edu> cherry st. veg at 10+cherry (one block from the troc) is absulutely scrump-tious in fact i will probably eat there tomorrow given the chance --lapis +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Kbierfelt at xxx.org Thu Oct 22 19:37:00 1998 From: Kbierfelt at xxx.org (Kristin Bierfelt (MFA)) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:37:00 -0400 Subject: Sinister: My God, Symposium are shit. Message-ID: I just bought a Symposium CD for $1.80 at Nuggets. Never heard of them before. Thought it might be worthwhile. But no such luck. ARGH! Zipping my mouth shut. Perhaps someone should hang ME by the loopy thingy on the coatroom racks. xo, Kris +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rj23 at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 20:11:13 1998 From: rj23 at xxx.com (R. O. Jenkins) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:11:13 -0500 Subject: Sinister: a few things coming to mind Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981022141113.00895ad0@pop.a001.sprintmail.com> My Fellow Sinsisters, If anyone had told me that not only would I get the chance to see Belle and Sebastian perform (wonderfully if shortly by the accounts so far) but also to hit on QB J's sis and various other Jess's...well, to make a long story dshort I'd have quit my lousy job and spent my pennies on a bus ticket from here to there. Obviously. So in future, if pawning off your sis or self please inform sooner such that we desperate saddoes out in Tx. can make it. And this leads me to the next point (and really the only actual) Anyone from Dallas interested in meet-ups or picnics (the weather is finally just perfect for such endeavors) or starting petitions for upcoming tour dates or some such? And I'd let you in on a little smut but I hardly know you. COme knock on my door and we'll talk. Or somesuch. rj. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Thu Oct 22 20:24:47 1998 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksandaJill) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:24:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Philly Veg Chinese Restaurants...let the debate rage! Message-ID: <199810221924.PAA41644@dept.english.upenn.edu> OK, OK, I *used* to be a Cherry Streeter...but now I'm way more into Singapore and Vietnam Restaurant. Harmony was pretty good too (the best way to judge a veggie Chinese place I've decided is see how good their General Tao's Chicken is) but the service wasn't quite as friendly as I'd like. Plus at Singapore you get these funky things at the end of your meal--I guess you could call them banana dumplings. And that's in addition to your orange slices and fortune cookies (in bed). And their staff is wonderful. Vietnam Restaurant (all these restaurants are right off of 11th Street btw) is great for its very speedy service, giving you your own pitcher of icewater (what a concept! why wait to be quenched?), very affordable prices ($4-$6 an entree), and delicious rice pudding combos and coffee served with evaporated milk. I brought the Lucksmiths here, and they gave it the big thumbs-up. But my word should be enough, shouldn't it?:) As for Doc Johnson's...jeez Kristin, are you a bigger perv than me? Who'd a-thunk it!:) Xavier -- BXK "It's recess everywhere bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu but in his heart." http://www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 --Ralph Wiggum X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alix.campbell at xxx.net Thu Oct 22 20:43:04 1998 From: alix.campbell at xxx.net (Alix Campbell) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:43:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: hey americans, you may be fat, but at least you're not english Message-ID: <005401bdfdf4$4996a960$03000004@n2f9x2> forget northern soul, the mighty wurlitzer is the future. it is ideally suited to those interested in melancholy, i played some to a friend and she wept. i didn't know that the Dog on Wheels version of The State I Am In was a demo. i've not heard the other, but i adore the version i know. also i want a dog on wheels, where can i procure such an object? because i have a tres short memory my regrets are normally quite vague, or unspecific, but the two very vivid ones i do have both concern B&S: 1. reading a review for tigermilk, in select and thinking about buying it coz it had a good name...and not buying it 2. queueing outside the zodiac (oxford) last year for a B&S gig without a ticket, then giving up and going to the pub. the people who stayed got in. has funkyseb really gone? as for footballers, i don't see the appeal of beckham, etc, but quite like Suker from Croatia. it's not a 'fancying' thing, more a 'ooh, he's sweet'. Kind of like how i feel about Michael Palin. Am I sick? the picture of StuartM in select( with the review) looks much too like darren day, who i am regretably related to very distantly (grandfathers' fathers' great grandson, i believe). le roule is best cheese - soft, mild and herby, yet captivating. like expensive philadelphia with green bits chucked in. how does one learn to play the trumpet? i am inspired by the trumping on beautiful and doggone wheels. i have a heads tart coz i used to play tenor horn in ma yout. i went to a proper restaurant for the first time on saturday. it was bizarre - we were treated like grown ups, and it was unnerving. can i contribute to the smut content of the list, or am i supposed to be nice and girly? i'm very good at smut, but i can go too far. that's me done. now i'll cycle to sainsbury's, which is about a mile away, just to buy some cigarettes. talk about pathetic. orve wah. alix 'doris prouty' campbell ( who was called an ignorant fuck the other night) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Putneysays at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 21:02:52 1998 From: Putneysays at xxx.com (Putneysays at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:02:52 EDT Subject: Sinister: Rather Important Petition Message-ID: <9f004aad.362f8f6c@aol.com> Dear Belle And Sebastian Listees, sorry to post the list, but I thought this was rather important. Please add your name to this list, whether you happen to be homosexual, bisexual, or just a straight person who's disgusted with the recent killing of Matthew Shepard in Wyoming, like I am. Thanks, Susannah Please consider supporting this supportive gesture towards American Airlines - after all, isn't public health about social justice? Add your name to the list & pass it on... Dear Friends, American Airlines is a major sponsor to and supporter of groups like: GLADD, the Human Rights Campaign, the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund, the AIDS Action Foundation, DIFFA, AmFAR, and scores of community-based groups representing gays and lesbians. It is also the first airline to adopt a written non-discrimination policy covering sexual orientation in its employment practices. In an unusual joint letter released to the media on March 14th from the Family Research Council, Concerned Women of America, American Family Association and Coral Ridge Ministries, American Airlines was openly criticized about their policy. Radical right leader Beverly LaHaye also went on Christian "talk radio" on Friday to blast American Airlines because American's sponsorship of homosexual 'pride' events constitutes an open endorsement of "promiscuous homosexuality." She and the other groups have written Bob Crandall at American to complain that the airline has "gone beyond mere tolerance" of gays and lesbians. It has come to the attention of the gay and lesbian community that American Airline's switchboard and e-mails are being bombarded now by homophobic and hateful callers who have been urged by LaHaye and others to DEMAND the company terminate its gay-friendly policies. Please add your name to this petition and forward it to as many people as you can. To add your name just cut and paste this onto new mail and send it out! If you are the 25th, 50th, 75th, 100th, etc. person to sign this petition then also please forward this to American Airlines at Webmaster at amrcorp.com Thank you. ************************************************* To American Airlines: We, the undersigned, support your gay/lesbian rights policies and commend you for your efforts in ending discrimination. Thank you for your dedication to such issues and please continue to remain active in the struggle to end discrimination. > > > 1. Tom Toomey, N.Y. > > > 2. Mark Poulin, S.F. > > > 3. Cam Wilson, S.F. > > > 4. Jon Sharpe, Seattle > > > 5. Eric Spivack, Seattle > > > 6. Doug Leavers, Vancouver > > > 7. Steve LeBel, Vancouver > > > 8. Dale Essar, Vancouver > > > 9. Ray McNabb, Vancouver > > > 10. Peter Wachowich, Vanc ouver > > > 11. John Murphy, Vancouver > > > 12. Greg Madison, London UK > > > 13. Rae Ann Robertson, Vancouver, Canada > > > 14. Vanessa Benson, London, UK > > > 15. Sarah Lewendon, London UK > > > 16. Martin Egan, London UK > > > 17. Tony Comerford, London UK > > > 18. David Kelly, Edinburgh UK > > > 19. Cathal O'Farrell, London UK > > > 20. Daniel Victorio, London UK > > > 21. Michael Scott2121, London UK > > > 22. Phillip Dexter, London UK > > > 23. Angela Brown, Napier, NZ > > > 24. Sandra Firman, Napier, NZ > > > 25. Clare Bear, Wellington, NZ > > > 26. Philip Patston, Auckland, NZ > > > 27. Pepijn Zwanenberg, Utrecht, the Netherlands > > > 28. Estelle Josso, Utrecht, the Netherlands > > > 29. Sander Plug, Amsterdam, the Netherlands > > > 30. Leon van Geest, Rotterdam, the Netherlands > > > 31. Reinko Hallenga, NL > > > 32. Suzanne Brink, Delft, the Netherlands > > > 33. Mirjam Lensink, Amsterdam, the Netherlands > > > 34. Fjodor Molenaar, Amsterdam, the Netherlands > > > 35. Sudeep Dasgupat, Amsterdam, the Netherlands > > > 36. David Hughes, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania > > > 37. Joe Hughes, Pittsburgh, PA, USA > > > 38. Laura Hughes, Los Angeles, CA > > > 39. David Henry Hwang, New York, NY > > > 40. Kathryn Layng, New York, NY > > > 41. Oliver Ramsey, Chicago, IL > > > 42. Nancy Tom, Chicago, IL > > > 43. Julia Allen, Chicago, IL > > > 44. Alan Makinen, Chicago, IL > > > 45. Robin Brack, San Jose, CA > > > 46. James Hotchkiss, San Diego > > > 47. Debbie Williamson, San Diego > > > 48. Ken L. Jones, Pensacola FL > > > 50. Rick Guilds. Los Angeles CA > > > 51. Randall Anderson > > > 52. John Frenken > > > 53. Rick Melendez > > > 54. Steve Schenk > > > 55. John Carey, San Diego CA > > > 56. Wendi Whiles > > > 57. Carol Scott, Kansas City > > > 58. Jim Giles, Kansas City > > > 59. Aaron Andes, Kansas City > > > 60. Stephen L. Scurletis, St. Louis, MO > > > 61. Steven M. Pfeiffer, St. Louis, MO > > > 62. Vasili Haralambous, Raleigh, NC > > > 63. Steven Koenig, Brooklyn, NY > > > 64. Gladys Kravitz, Staten Island, NY > > > 65. Robert Tobon, Milwaukee, WI > > > 66. Lynn Matthes, Highland Falls, NY > > > 67. Beth De Voe, Williamstown, MA > > > 68. Jay Sachs, Williamstown, MA > > > 69. Catherine Sachs, Flagstaff, AZ > > > 70. Abby R. Spiro, NewYork, NY > > > 71. Don Bapst, San Francisco, CA > > > 72. Jonathan Boardman, Daytona Beach, FL > > > 73. Klaid Karpuzi, Daytona beach FL > > > 74. Alex Iliopolis, Daytona Beach, FL > > > 75. Wayne Whiston, Daytona Beach, FL > > > 76. Russell Hayes, Daytona beach, FL > > > 77. Michael Hayes, daytona Beach, FL > > > 78. Richard Valdmanis, Riga, Latvia > > > 79. Jason Dennis, Miami, FL > > > 80. Donika Karpuzi, Tampa, Fl > > > 81. Brian Kent, Trenton, NJ > > > 82. Trish Kent, Trenton, NJ > > > 83. Mark Taylor, New York, NY > > > 84. Matthew Seats, Williamsburg, Va / USA > > > 85. Jeff Taylor, San Diego, CA > > > 86. Michael Mooney, West Hollywood, CA > > > 87. Sue Kelly, Takoma Park, MD > > > 88. Lee Cantwell, Conifer, CO > > 89. Lynn Abate Johnson, Napa, CA > > 90. Anthony AbatT, Detroit, MI > > 91.Lesley Chace, Ann Arbor, MI > > 92. Jackie Simpson, Ann Arbor, MI > > 93. Yasanthi Perera, Raleigh, NC > > 94. Mary Tandia, Ames, IA > > 95. Christopher E. Barker; Ames, Ia. > > 96. Amy Hinkhouse; Ames, IA > > 97. Lauren Muser, Ames, IA 98. Barbara Lavergne, Raleigh, NC 99. Eve Meyerson Raleigh, NC 100. Tracy Gamble, Dallas, TX 101. Patrick Boothe, Grapevine, TX 102. Susannah Grossman, Scotch Plains, NJ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Thu Oct 22 21:20:44 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:20:44 -0400 Subject: Sinister: DC & Ticketmaster/Arab Strap enquiry References: Message-ID: <362F939C.651CC18A@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Hello, I'm a little worried. I ordered my tickets to the DC gig through Ticketmaster several months hence. Now it's a week before the show and I don't have them yet! Has anyone that ordered through Ticketmaster gotten theirs yet? Well, if worse comes to worst, I'll still see them in NY, but the bastards billed me, so I BETTER get some tickets. GRRR... Mark Iles wrote: > Maybe I'm just a little too innocent or just plain confused, but if > this ring is down at the base of the penis, then how does it get > anywhere near the clitoris? Well, I'm only postulating here (and no, postulating isn't a dirty word!) but I imagine you're required to stick it all the way in, if you know what I mean. I hope I don't have to get any more graphic and smutty than I already did... /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at oak.cats.ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From krissy9 at xxx.us Thu Oct 22 21:22:09 1998 From: krissy9 at xxx.us (Krissy) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:22:09 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Sinister: ooops! In-Reply-To: <362C545D.6D3D@ameritech.net> Message-ID: > p.s. i'm going to see belle and sebastian in toronto and chicago and i'm > really, really excited!!!! but i don't have a place to stay in chicago, > any suggestions? and is there a chicago meet-up? Jeff- The hostels in Chicago are affordable and clean-- my brother stayed in one for a month, and said there were no problems. But that's only if you can find nothing else, of course--- I ahve so many friends who will be at this show, I am seething with jealousy! And I wonder if Miss Kerry is going? Krissy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From noelani30 at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 21:40:50 1998 From: noelani30 at xxx.com (Jessica Wright) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:40:50 PDT Subject: Sinister: DC & Ticketmaster/Arab Strap enquiry Message-ID: <19981022204051.26443.qmail@hotmail.com> mick- i ordered tickets from ticketmaster too when they were taking a long time i called they said they aren't sent out until 10 days before the show no worries i'm sure you'll get them jess ------------------- "so come aboard, let's sing a lament- the world isn't round it's twisted and bent" TCS ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paul.field at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 21:43:18 1998 From: paul.field at xxx.com (Paul Field) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 21:43:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Make a young boy sigh.. Message-ID: <01BDFE04.FBE42880.paul.field@cmgplc.com> Hi all, I'm now sat alone in a hotel far from home, and I'm rather bored. I haven't really got anything to say, so I'm going to plagiarise instead. I read this passage earlier in the week, and it made me sigh. I'm not really young, but... This is taken from 'Jack Frusciante has left the band' by Enrico Brizzi: '"What do I need to do?" the little prince asked. "You need to be very patient" the fox replied. "In the beginning you'll sit a little far from me, like this, in the grass. I'll look at you from the corner of my eye, and you won't say anything. Words are sources of misunderstanding. But day after day you'll be able to come and sit a little closer..." The next day, the little prince returned. "It would have been better to come back at the same time," the fox said. "If, for example, you arrive at four in the afternoon, I'll start being happy from three. The more time passes, the happier I'll be. When by four, I get restless and worried, I'll discover the price of happiness." Top tip: A time saver - instead of typing shift+i for 'I', simply use the lower case 'L' = 'l'. Smut: Why do hunters make the best lovers? Because they go deep in the bush, shoot more than once and they eat what they shoot. Tag wrote: "Anyone who insists on sending posts to this list which are NOT positively dripping with gratuitous innuendo and salacious (preferably libellous) rumour-mongering about either band members or fellow listees should go out, find the nearest railings, and lick them until their tongues are sore. To avoid such a terrible humiliation, here's an example of the kind of lurid filth I'd like to see more of... Peter Miller has no willy." So here goes: Paul Field has anal sex with kittens Shit, I don't think I've got the hang of this... I'll (that says L'LL) go now, I'm bored but I shouldn't take it out on you Last thing - good luck to those listees meeting on Saturday, I'll be with you in spirirt. Paul xx. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Thu Oct 22 21:41:35 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 21:41:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Aren't hotel minibars FAB!!! when you aren't paying of course! In-Reply-To: <01bdfd15$46ac9d20$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Message-ID: <8L$KdFA$h5L2EwOf@elsato97.demon.co.uk> Hello!! I'm back from LONDON! And I am massively UNIMPRESSED!! A 24hr culture!!! We came out from a show and wanted to find somehwre to eat at 10.30, EVERYWHERE WAS SHUT UP!!! Even the pubs had their doors shut! I mean what the poo is going on there! I was most disappointed, and I saw no famous people, apart from someone who looked like Camilla Parker Bowles. I thought every woman 'of a certain age' looked like Camilla Parker Bowles though....haw haw....we went to Convent garden as well, but I say no cafes of poetry, but hey! It was probably hiding from me, going oh no thats Sarahs here, I can smell her.... Peter wrote: >My friend Sarah wrote that, no doubt gurning at the same >time, just like JO DUNNE and her trademark star-shaped >sunglasses from We've Got a Fuzzbox and We're Gonna Use it. >Will I be getting previously unreleased Alarm demos? Who is JO DUNNE? You have called me psycho in heavenly creatures and no JO DUNNE. Who is she! I dont know! Grr, I can gurn well I supose. But not as well as people in Cornwall, like Adrian Evans who once shouted at me cos I called Cornwall posh in a moment of JEST, yes, I have a MEMORY for people who call me nasty names, watch out!!! Alarm demos? Now theres an idea...speaking of which: Gary, (EX!!) el hombre del mullet and ex-Alarm afficiando wrote: >Nope, you'll be getting some tippity top Welsh tunes, by some of the bestest >Welsh bands around and by bands who the people who are in the bestest Welsh >bands used to be in.... and Mixies Men, who somehow made it on despite being >from Birkenhead, on the strength that A), They're fantastic and B) They used >to support Anherfn a lot. Aaaah the joy of Mixies Men. Banned from Leeds, Manchester, Sky TV and all universities, Mixies are more punk than a saftey pin stuck up Richard Colburns bum. YEEAH! They sing songs about being in Rockferry, about the A-team being better than snoggin' and 'poking', and being CRAZY MIXED UP MEN!!! Which is the song on your tape senor chariot. So far, theres some Super Furries, some Gorkys, some ace Ffa Coffi Pawb stuph, in fact it's marvellous.....I wish I could speak welsh!!! i can speak a little, I can say Rydw'i hoffi coffi! A chi? coffi du! Diolch yn fawr! dafad yn siarad.....dw'i eisau siarad, I ussed to know how to say, bed darling, but I've forgoten! Argh! Ooh, and Peter, I got your tape, I've not had a chance to listen to it yet, but I'm glad it has king Tubby on it. In the REGGAE NIGHT at the top moshers pub in Preston called the Fighting Cock, they have a regular there called King Telletubby. I wish I could go, but I work saturday nights, drat it, I shall skive off work one week and go. Be not suprised when i turn into a roots chick and talk like lee 'scratch' perry.. LINDA KERR! YOUR TAPE! ITS MARVELLOUS! NICK I WILL POST IT ON AS SOON AS I'VE TAPED IT!! Gary quien hablas grandes cojones y quien voy a matar cuando viene la fin de semana escribó: >I think there's a couple at least isn't there ?. Also PJ and Duncan speaks >Spanish do you not Mr Miller, so does Fluffy, well she claims to, but it's >just broken English in a bad Lancashire accent. >Oh boy am I dead. 87) HA, I speak better Spanish than you CULO DE PAUL WELLER. You're strolling for a disembowelling there my young chap. Hablo un poco de espanol curioso [gracias Alberto :) tu ingles es mas mejor que mi espanol!! :)] And I wore my B&S t-shirt in London, expecting all the hip hipsters to go, ooh, b&s, aren't they trendy and stuff, but no-one did, cos they were probably all in BED! I mean, shutting up at 10.30! It takes the wee wee it really does, I am so suprised, I mean.....blimey.... Charlotte Hall, I don't know you, but hi anyway, everyone else seems to know you and love you so I am sure I would do too. I was bullied by a girl called Charlotte in high school and one of my friends now is called Rachael Hall. So there you go. It matterth not una mierda, but quien da un poo. Not meeeeeeeeeeeee ooh isn't writing eeeeeee a lot very fun! um, oh dear. Anyway, I found a cheese called 'le Roule'. I've eaten it before and found it nice, but then I accidentally linked it with Tag and started laughing and then dropped the lil' cheese packet on the floor cos I'm a clumsy git, so I ate some free honeycomb biscuits instead. Speaking of which....Honeeeeeey........write to us...it needn't be long, just write 'poo' and we will be happy and delighted and extra cute or something and: I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Candarel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Christian at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 21:55:07 1998 From: Christian at xxx.com (Christian Havins) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:55:07 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Three hail Mary's and a packet of crisps References: <36326e00.327243@post.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <362F9B9C.434018E6@perx.com> Robert McTaggart wrote: > Anyone who insists on sending posts to this list which are NOT > positively dripping with gratuitous innuendo and salacious (preferably > libellous) rumour-mongering about either band members or fellow > listees should go out, find the nearest railings, and lick them until > their tongues are sore. Thank you Robert. I'm just glad someone has come to their senses. John wrote, "I was reading that someone in the States said that rolling stone magazine was horrible! or as I'd say 'orrible!. I'm glad there's some dissenting voices in mercantile land coz I really don't understand why that magazine is still afloat and in circulation!" Please remember that not all Americans vehemently brandish the flag of corporate capitalism. And our editors are just as talented and well educated as yours. Just not the ones at that magazine. I hope to see many of you at the Chicago show. gently, christian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Thu Oct 22 22:15:55 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:15:55 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Ticketmaster/The best wintry B&S song? References: <19981022204051.26443.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <362FA08B.CE9CFF30@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Jessica Wright wrote: > i ordered tickets from ticketmaster too > when they were taking a long time i called > they said they aren't sent out until 10 days before the show > no worries > i'm sure you'll get them False alarm folks! They FINALLY came today =) I'm so pleased! Even if they don't play all the songs I want to hear in one city, I'll have the other one with which to provide them the opportunity. A great deal of thanks for all those who wrote me privately, you're all so lovely. Also, if you're looking for me at the show, I'm on the picture page on Hunny's lurvely website. Thankee... Incidentally, there's ANOTHER Jessica, and my cousin is named Jessica Wright. Popular name, apparently. Hm...I was trying to pick a B&S song that sounds wintry. I want to make a seasonal winter tape, with all sorts of wintry-sounding songs. I'd tried once before, years ago, but I never got beyond just writing down plausible songs. So I aim to try again, and I must put a B&S song on there, it's mandatory. I listened to the new album & 369, nothing particularly caught my ear. I could always use "Fox in the Snow," but that seems like such a cop-out =) I could use "Electronic Renaissance," but I've only got a cassette copy of Tigermilk. Suggestions? /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at oak.cats.ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jgockley at xxx.edu Thu Oct 22 22:12:50 1998 From: jgockley at xxx.edu (Jessica Gockley) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:12:50 -0400 Subject: Sinister: See you in line in PHILLY! In-Reply-To: <199810221652.MAA84818@dept.english.upenn.edu> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981022171250.006acf54@beacon.eastern.edu> Xavier said: >For the listies who are going to be sitting in line at the Trocadero >tomorrow, I'm going to be there handing out little flyers I made for our >band's after-show (at the Balcony above the Trocadero). Why not say hi? >My band is Clock Strikes Thirteen and the event is free to 21+ B&S >attendees--just go right upstairs after B&S finish and voila. 21+ shows are pish. I didn't want to go to your silly little show anyway. Grr...you know how many shows i've missed in the past six months that i've been back in Pennsylvania, just because of age limits? I don't wanna talk about it. But i don't care, nothing matters anymore except that I'M SEEING BELLE AND SEBASTIAN TOMORROW. And i never, never use capital letters so extravagantly as i just did, so you know this must be a big deal. Confidential to Honey: I'm watching you. Love, Jess Foxinasnow "The world is a wonderful place to be born into if you don't mind happiness not always being so very much fun, if you don't mind a touch of hell now and then just when everything is fine" - Lawrence Ferlinghetti Jessica Gockley | Box 326 Eastern College | 1300 Eagle Road | St Davids, PA 19087 | 610-225-5403 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Kbierfelt at xxx.org Thu Oct 22 22:08:00 1998 From: Kbierfelt at xxx.org (Kristin Bierfelt (MFA)) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:08:00 -0400 Subject: FW: Sinister: Philly show Message-ID: Mr. Matthen William Snyder was supposed to send this to the list, not just me. Here ya go: ---------- From: matthew william snyder To: Kristin Bierfelt (MFA) Subject: Re: Sinister: Philly show Date: Thursday, October 22, 1998 4:57PM | | | < < Heya fellow listees! I've noticed a slowing-down of postings to the Jeepster get-together message board for the Athens gig. Do folks not want to get together? If you do, let's all pay attention to the board for a day or two and get our plans together so there is a place and time set for a merry, happy-bunny kinda gathering... The one place that's been suggested a few times (and I gotta admit, it sounds nice) is the Athens Sushi Bar Utage, on Clayton, and only a few blocks walk away from the 40 Watt. Hell, I'm driving, so if everyone's full, we could drive there! Anyhow! I'm sure I'm not alone in my desire to meet some other B&S folks and hang out and eat raw fish and such, so let's make a plan, 'kay? Oh, and if anyone's interested in splitting the cost of a hotel room, I'm game, since they're tough to come by that night, I hear... fondest wishes... --Steven ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tton at xxx.edu Thu Oct 22 22:28:05 1998 From: tton at xxx.edu (THAIAN N TON) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:28:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: the doctor told her years ago to take a pill Message-ID: oh poo, i just saw that the philly par-tea is post-concert and i will be jetting out as quickly as i come in. however, the excitement anticipation continues as i have to stay late at work today to do some excitement before i can play tomorrow. however, i will be in philly tomorrow in tow with a loyal sinisterine, kim as the representatives of B&S of dc, and i will bring along my new convert and force him (as a B&S pledge) to sing all the songs loudly in the front row. see you there, beautiful, tempermental, -wee chi chi (that's thaian) x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amarnold at xxx.edu Thu Oct 22 22:52:06 1998 From: amarnold at xxx.edu (Alex Arnold) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:52:06 -0500 Subject: Sinister: chicago meet up (my apologies to mr. kitchen) Message-ID: <199810222155.QAA79946@mail1.doit.wisc.edu> Evenin' kiddies, Sorry to clutter up the list with more meet up trials and tribulations ( I know Mr. Kitchen set up that nice little message board on the Jeepster site, but there doesn't seem to be too much response, and nothing concrete has arisen from it as far as I can tell), but has anyone figured something out for Chicago yet? I've heard some suggestion of the Gingerman Tavern before the show, and I too have heard its a nice place...and smack dab next to the metro too. So that's where little old moi will be, and anyone who cares to join can e-mail me. And for the record on Cinerama, I bought it yesterday and think its lovely. I of course am biased however as I am a huge fan of the Wedding Present. For anyone angered at me for this perhaps irrelevant post, please feel free to spank me. And for the rest of you, please feel free to spank me as well. All this smuttiness on the list has made me a wee bit randy..oh, and I've been a trifle naughty as well. Cheers, Alexander the Mediocre amarnold at students.wisc.edu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From debbie.spiers at xxx.ca Thu Oct 22 18:40:00 1998 From: debbie.spiers at xxx.ca (debbie.spiers at xxx.ca) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:40:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: need an excuse! Message-ID: twattybus is humming mellowly away in my ears while i bump and jiggle around on the bus ride home. then, uncharacteristically i begin to grin. why? in 72 hours belle and sebastian will actually be in toronto. no big news to everyone, but i haven't actually let it set in untill now. i was so stressed about a huge test i had yesterday, that the thought of belle and sebby couldn't get through. i arrived home yesterday, intent on finishing my readings on ostracism and write the paper that is due today. has it been done yet? my class fast approaching? actually in about 20 minutes? of course NOT. i got overly giddy yesterday. i just couldn't sit myself down and write a paper on ostracized individuals in ancient athens. how does that seem at all important when my secret musical loves are finally crossing the actlantic and gracing our city with their wonderful presence? so my plea now, though too late, to anyone still reading this, is what excuse do i give my professor? "i'm extremely sorry sir, but you see, this band i've been admiring from afar is finally fulfulling my fantasies by playing here on saturday. isn't it obvious that any music apprechiating citizen couldn't possibly settle long enough to write the paper? i'll have it by next week, i promise?!?" ohh...... what to do, what to do. i'm still so excited, all i want to do sit here surrounded by stuarts voice and read all of your messages, just so i can get the full belle and sebby experience one last time before the show... alright. i suppose i should go to class. but any help please... cheers deb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Cebudo at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 23:04:06 1998 From: Cebudo at xxx.com (Cebudo at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:04:06 EDT Subject: Sinister: excuse me while I cry. Message-ID: <5e8aa001.362fabd6@aol.com> arrgh... people are talking about the show in philly that i can't go to. why am i not going? transportation. i have none. i don't know anybody that would care about going to see such musical artistes, all my friends are too busy being punk and calling me gay. and my dad has to work. :o( ::sob:: andrew. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Kbierfelt at xxx.org Thu Oct 22 23:19:00 1998 From: Kbierfelt at xxx.org (Kristin Bierfelt (MFA)) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:19:00 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Last post for the day Message-ID: Je PROMIS! Sorry I'm so verbose today. I'm know I'm gonna get made fun of for it. See you all in Philly tomorrow, I'm leaving for leg one of my trip there in a few hours. I'll most likely be wearing a T-shirt that says "I survived the Nanticoke evacuation." Probably. Who knows. I'm fairly nondescript myself. The boy I'll be with has a big brown beard and thick black glasses and the girl I'll be with is pretty tall and has crazy big blonde hair. They're both real skinny and look vaguely alike (except for the beard). The end. Have fun all. xoxo, Kris +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From anonclothing at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 23:09:46 1998 From: anonclothing at xxx.com (Gareth Watkins) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 23:09:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: the drunken voice of the cruel world outside Message-ID: <09c6003202216a8UPIMSSMTPUSR04@email.msn.com> i still say the lame fuckers should have been dancing bye gareth +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NoelWhitey at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 23:29:29 1998 From: NoelWhitey at xxx.com (NoelWhitey at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:29:29 EDT Subject: Sinister: Sorry to ask but.... Message-ID: Hey Everyone, i was just searching through the mailing list archive and couldnt find what i was looking for,So i was wondering if someone could tell me all the tour dates in California. THANKS A BUNCH -Damon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Arigreen23 at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 23:33:42 1998 From: Arigreen23 at xxx.com (Arigreen23 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:33:42 EDT Subject: Sinister: philly, vegetarian restaurant Message-ID: The way things're looking now, i prob'ly won't get to the post show meetup..(sad face)...but is anyone eating at singapore? my friend's been there and says it's really good...well e-mail me if ya are, I'll be wearing pinstripe pants and a plaid shirt (?)...and i have black glasses...say hi! What time are you folks lining up? I'm prob'ly gonna get to the trocadero around 7:10 or so..with pez of course. ari +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Thu Oct 22 23:35:41 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 23:35:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: RE: sinister-digest V2 #427 In-Reply-To: <199810221728.SAA12921@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000201bdfe0c$4d1004c0$65557ec2@whelan> Mr Miller wrote.... "On the day that Katrina told us that our dreams WILL come true, and David informed us of the massaging bonus effects of arab strap use (which I still don't understand, by the way...does it stop your Captain Mainwaring from standing fully to attention? Wouldn't that hurt? And isn't your clitoris up your bum? How does it massage up there?), " Now come on, you're not fooling anyone with this Mr Innocent routine. How could the list lovegod, possibly not know where the clitoris is, you're fooling noone you know?. Besides everyone knows it's behind the ladies right knee. 87) Bbyyyyyeeeeeeeee Gary +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Thu Oct 22 23:43:12 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:43:12 -0400 Subject: Sinister: ooops! In-Reply-To: References: <362C545D.6D3D@ameritech.net> Message-ID: At 16:22 -0400 10/22/98, Krissy wrote: [ [Jeff- [The hostels in Chicago are affordable and clean-- my brother stayed in one [for a month, and said there were no problems. [But that's only if you can find nothing else, of course--- [I ahve so many friends who will be at this show, I am seething with [jealousy! And I wonder if Miss Kerry is going? [ [Krissy [ sorry krissy, no such luck. i'll be out here in massachusettes. :( but i did tell stuart david and wee chris to say "hi" to the metro for me. :) -kerry "well it comes with the hurt and the guilt and the memories. if i had to take them with me i would never get from my bed . . . (do you really think you keep it all that well hid?) no, but i travel light." -tindersticks, "travelling light" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From heinitz at xxx.net Fri Oct 23 00:59:17 1998 From: heinitz at xxx.net (Heinitz) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 98 23:59:17 GMT Subject: Sinister: where did i put that letter from Martin? i can't find it. Message-ID: <981022235917.n0001717.heinitz@mail.clara.net> does anyone know if alanis morissette *really* is warbling "how about them transparent angling carrots" in her new song? cos i've previously not had much in the way of respect for the lady, but if she's got hold of some transparent carrots, angling or otherwise, then she must know something i don't. you've all made me desire pez. i've never had any pez - i've seen it loitering around Woollies, looking a bit shifty, but i never purchased the stuff. PUSHERS! next up you'll be lurking around school gates, offering your sinister delights to impressionable youngsters. salutations to whoever it was mentioned mama cass - ooooh, you could just float around on her voice... washing up's not so bad when i've got my mamas & the papas cd to listen to. abi (or jessica, if you prefer), who's mourning, mourning kenickie... help cheer me up - be a part of the counterthon: http://www.myspace.co.uk/vivaparaguay ps. poem: la la la la la la BELLE! la la la la la one L! la la la la la la CHEESE! la la la la la two P's! it is dedicated to Philipppppppppppe. see, if everyone could remember that little rhyme, they'd know how to spell his name. so long as they weren't pedantic and pointing out that it's got three p's in it if you count the first one. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eyh96 at xxx.edu Fri Oct 23 00:49:09 1998 From: eyh96 at xxx.edu (remaniac) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:49:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: a bus story, boston show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This afternoon, I rode the bus to my class at the rare book library. Literally just as the batteries in my discman expired during "you made me forget my dreams" (which, incidentally, Teri/we spoke with Stuart D about last night), the bus came to a unexpected halt. A group of schoolchildren was assembled by the roadside, and boarded the bus. The children were carrying soprano recorders in little pouches, and they were accompanied by their teacher--a man who seemed to have complete authority over the group of twenty or so children, yet was gentle and softspoken. The children were very excited to be riding a "college bus." Their stop came up after a few minutes and when they were gone, the bus was distinctly uieter but full of college kids-- all smiling because our collective bus ride had been made more special. Hope you don't mind my sharing; the incident just struck me as very Belle and Sebastian-esque. Of course, _everything_ reminds me of B&S today, as I have yet to get over last night's boston show! Yes, "a spaceboy dream" was brilliant. One of my favorite moments was when Stuart M asked the "lighting man" to improve the situation. And his singing from the back (where no one could see him) just endeared the band to me even more, as did their apologies and comments between songs. B&S are awesomely, genuinely kind and humble. sweeties. They seemed a bit nervous at first (or perhaps it was the "sleepy" lighting), but it was all beautiful. btw, nice ink polaroid, Kerry :) Did you write it in your book? sorry that no one responded to our sign and hoping that the Sinisterines will be more visible at the Philly, Toronto, and NYC shows! Kristin, we tried to hang the sinister sign up for you to see during your midterm, but alas it was cleared away-- we were thinking of you, though! --emily +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Augury7 at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 01:35:51 1998 From: Augury7 at xxx.com (Augury7 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:35:51 EDT Subject: Sinister: hey americans, you may be fat, but at least you're not english Message-ID: <> when i was at school, i worked at the campus library and on days when it was slow, i would read cat fancy magazine (i love my cats). in the back of the magazine, they have classified ads for purebred cats, scoop-by-themself litterboxes, nasty looking collars, weird things to fence your cat in with, etc. my favorite thing, though, was the cat paralysis cart. it's this thing that with wheels that hooks on to your cat's hind quarters so if its poor little back legs are paralyzed, it can still wheel itself along. i'm sure they make them for dogs, too; look in dog fancy magazine or else just order one for cats. then you can have a dog on wheels. speaking of smut, how about corn smut? (that ridiculously nasty looking fungal disease that corn gets). while i'm living here amidst farms, wineries, and millions of fields of corn, i thought corn smut deserved a mention in the smut category. ok then, goodnight susan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Fri Oct 23 02:33:02 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 21:33:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Mail Message-ID: you're writing to a mailing list with 700 subscribers. someone, either you or a friend, subscribed you to it. the bottom of the header tells you exactly how to unsubscribe. look next time. At 9:14 AM 10/22/98, Faraz Ahmed wrote: >Can you not send me unsolicited mail, for the second time. > >I DO NOT WANT MAIL FROM YOU, I DON at T NEED IT. > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jhatton at xxx.net Fri Oct 23 03:15:15 1998 From: jhatton at xxx.net (Joshua Hatton) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:15:15 -0400 Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe sinister Message-ID: <362FE6B3.401C@snet.net> there is just way too mush mail with this, and it's clogging up my computer. b&s are the best but this mailing list has to go....sorry? cheers to all the true b&s fans out there. josh +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pixistyx13 at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 03:53:40 1998 From: Pixistyx13 at xxx.com (Pixistyx13 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:53:40 EDT Subject: Sinister: DC show? Message-ID: <3c85a502.362fefb4@aol.com> hi, i'm new to the mailing list so i'm sorry for posting when i'm sure this has been disgusted already...someone posted about a show in DC? can someone please email me privately as to where and when it is and if they know if it is sold out? thank you in advance Jay +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jccourtney at xxx.net Fri Oct 23 04:01:57 1998 From: jccourtney at xxx.net (John Courtney) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:01:57 -0500 Subject: Sinister: "Tigermilk" (what else??) Message-ID: <362FF1A5.8BFB83AA@revealed.net> Hi, all. I am a newcomer and have a question that has surely been asked 8 billion times on this list. Several times I have come very close to obtaining "Tigermilk" on one format or another, but trades keep falling through and suppliers keep selling their copies. Is anyone out there kind enough to copy "Tigermilk" onto a CD for me (from original vinyl of course), or put a copy on a good quality cassette? Or does anyone have the capacity to put mp3 files of all tracks on the web? Or, better yet, is anyone interested in selling me a copy of the actual LP for lots of cash? :) :) :) I will definitely make it worth your while and am very flexible. I have an ample money supply, music by other bands to trade and a CD burner of my own. If you can provide a good quality copy, your wish is my command. Many thanks in advance for your kindness and generosity! John Courtney Bettendorf, Iowa, USA jccourtney at revealed.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Fri Oct 23 04:42:18 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 23:42:18 -0400 Subject: Sinister: A DC Meetup? Message-ID: <362FFB1A.DDB67949@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Hiya, I know I've posted a lot this evening, but this struck me as rather relevant. And the second of my three posts was to get people to stop pumping my mailbox with helpful information =) Well, I don't post terribly often (certainly not enough to gain any list crushes), so I guess I'm burning all this week's posts tonight. I checked out the Jeepster site, and a paltry 3 people had posted there about a DC meetup! Come on, people! 6 or 7 must have e-mailed me, though not all DC-ers. Megan, Matt, Brian and I are driving down from NYC to see the show, so I don't know what time we'll get there, but regardless of what time we do, there ought to be a meetup, whether we can make it or not. Now if I lived in DC, I'd suggest a place to do this. There were some suggestions in Jeepster. Though I have been to DC 5 or 6 times, I really don't know any locales. So someone from DC step up and pick a place, and post it to the list, and ask us to e-mail. Or something like that. We wouldn't want to end up like the BOSTON gig! Haha! No, I'm only kidding. I mean it would be nice to meet some of you nice folk beforehand, because during I imagine it will get pretty hectic. Also, anyone know what band will be opening? Shame that the Castaways Stones aren't together anymore... /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at oak.cats.ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! P.S. A *certain* someone doesn't think I'm mentioning her enough in my posts. So I have. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Fri Oct 23 04:46:37 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 23:46:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: shame on me/smut Message-ID: oh, i wasn't planning to send my little flame to the list! oops. now my reputation as a sweet and kind pixie is ruined. oh wait, that's genevieve. hehe. you know, speaking of genevieve, apparently people have been flaming her about her sweet posts to the list. well anyone who disses genevieve will have do go through me first. and starry sarah too. and honey. and tag. and elisa. and pjmiller. though i think he might not put up much of a fight, but you'll probably be tired out from getting through the rest of us. so there! also, i want to reply some more cause all this smutty talk gets me very, um, talkative. so in reply.... tag said: >Anyone who insists on sending posts to this list which are NOT >positively dripping with gratuitous innuendo and salacious (preferably >libellous) rumour-mongering about either band members or fellow >listees should go out, find the nearest railings, and lick them until >their tongues are sore. To avoid such a terrible humiliation, here's >an example of the kind of lurid filth I'd like to see more of... > >Peter Miller has no willy. oh, there are plenty of things to say about tag. though really, he could just as easily say them about himself. all i'll ad is he'll be shagging to belle and sebastian while all the rest of us are sitting around and twiddling our thumbs (and no, i didn't mean that in a rude way). perhaps even with them if he plays his cards right. and by the way, susannah, if you're still around, what was your final score on the belle and sebastian sleaze quiz? am i being bad? i hope so, i've been trying harder lately. i love you all. xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From phaedrus at xxx.edu Fri Oct 23 05:00:04 1998 From: phaedrus at xxx.edu (spendthrift) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 98 0:00:04 EDT Subject: Sinister: philly show. Message-ID: Hello. I've never written to this list before. But I will be attending the show in philly at the troc. So I thought I that now would be a good time to announce my presence- what there is of it. Perhaps its verboten to say I like the second album less than the first, but its true. I am, though, looking very much forward to seeing all oft he songs played live. I play a bit of guitar with ab it fo a band that, like most bands, is badly in need of drummer. who knows how to play his instrument. and has a bit of taste. I don't expect to meet anyone at a b&s show that lacks taste. How could it happen? I just bought a grey nehru jacket with a green collar. I have a mop of black hair and square steel-rimmed glasses and I am quite korean. If you know hwo to play the drums, or even if you don't, don't hesitate to stop me if you say me and to say hello. -wesley +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Thessaly1 at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 05:01:35 1998 From: Thessaly1 at xxx.com (Thessaly1 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:01:35 EDT Subject: Sinister: chicago meet up figured out! Message-ID: hi there kids! i posted this on the web site list a few days ago and i guess i forgot to post it here, so now here it is! after asking around to find out the best place to go for a b and s after show meet up, i decided on the Smart Bar. i was told it is inside the metro (downstairs actually) and monday is 80's night. it is not too crowded and there is no cover. also the drinks are cheap! :) it sounded good to every i told already, so now i am inviting all of you! so be there or be square! maybe we can all wear something too, so we will recognize eachother. but really, most of the people down there will have been at the show, so we are bound to find eachother! :) if anyone has any ideas on the meet up, please post! :) cheers! jennifer p.s. maybe we can all wear eyepatches and pretend we are momus! :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From noelani30 at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 05:02:28 1998 From: noelani30 at xxx.com (Jessica Wright) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 21:02:28 PDT Subject: Sinister: dc meet up Message-ID: <19981023040228.2121.qmail@hotmail.com> hey kids.... wherever you lovelies decide to meet up, i won't be able to join cause i'll be with my dad+others yes, my dad is a big b&s fan so, could we all maybe wear something to distinguish us? this way i can tell who all my listee brothers and sisters are at the show what do you guys think? jess #4 ------------------- "so come aboard, let's sing a lament- the world isn't round it's twisted and bent" TCS ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From twinkle at xxx.net Fri Oct 23 05:25:22 1998 From: twinkle at xxx.net (petula) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 04:25:22 GMT Subject: Sinister: hail Mary's and other things Message-ID: <199810230425.EAA10569@trapdoor.aracnet.net> Hello hello, Assorted things, a pick 'n mix if you will. At 06:29 PM 10/22/1998 EDT, NoelWhitey at aol.com wrote: > >Hey Everyone, >i was just searching through the mailing list archive and couldnt find what i >was looking for,So i was wondering if someone could tell me all the tour dates >in California. >THANKS A BUNCH Mr Whitey, I'm suspicious. Last time you were asking if by northern soul, people were referring to the Verve album. It's too good to be true, I think someone is trying to be cheeky. John "disco stu" Warrender wrote: >Someone made me a tape with over 40 French (presumably) one-hit >wonders from the 60s. Every song is great and I was going to rattle >off the list of artists here. Just to show how knowledgeable and super >cool and into obscure pop I am. But erm, that would be pathetic, so I >won't. Hello John, we meet at last. I'll forgive you for the lingerie comments and tell you a bit more about those songs. They hail from the (bootleg) Ultra Chicks series: "Filles in the Garage" and "Lolita Ya-Yas". Not only are they full of fantastic pop, but if you own actual copies they make you look really cool as well. Next time you have a party and when the music boys do the inevitable flip through your records, put them straight in front and they'll get really jealous. At 05:42 PM 10/22/1998 GMT, Robert McTaggart wrote: >What on earth did that freakishly tall man with the knicker elastic >lubricant mean when he said I had more to apologise for than anyone >else? I have no conscience, not even a clear one. It's true, you know. He's had to be issued a special visa to enter Canada in 2 days' time. It's illegal to have no conscience without a permit here. When the CIB heard what he might be getting up to in Niagara Falls, they nearly revoked the visa, but he started singing an endearingly pathetic and out-of-tune version of the Canadian national anthem and saved the day. >Anyone who insists on sending posts to this list which are NOT >positively dripping with gratuitous innuendo and salacious (preferably >libellous) rumour-mongering about either band members or fellow >listees should go out, find the nearest railings, and lick them until >their tongues are sore. To avoid such a terrible humiliation, here's >an example of the kind of lurid filth I'd like to see more of... > >Peter Miller has no willy. Shame, shame. It's not nice to make fun of people who need their balsawood dildos to have a bit of stuff. I don't think I want to hear the Duke's penance idea. I'm not even Catholic. It might involve staying in a cabin in Skegness for a year so you have the solitude required to decipher every 80's indie guitar "classic" that didn't come with a lyric sheet. I have a much better penance idea. You would have to hibernate for the winter wearing only brushed cotton pyjamas, and with only marzipan and Tunnock's bars to eat. Any takers? >Talking of endurance shagging (which I wasn't, but you lot were), >Serge Gainsbourg, when asked if the sounds of carnal pleasure on "Je >t'aime...moi non plus" were genuine, replied "Of course not, it's only >a single. If it was real, it would be a long player". No one could out-shag Serge, but I could think of a few people who might take up half of an LP. Coming second after Serge is nothing to sneeze at. >Must go, Christina Ricci is calling. For anyone that's interested, her film "The Opposite of Sex" has just been released on video in North America. I've got to see that *and* Pecker, I've been a lazy cineaste lately. Luckily, in 2 days I'll have someone here who can persuade me to go to the video shop. But Christina is cool. She can tap dance. I used to tap dance as a child, you know. My first performance was to the tune of "Rubber Ducky", and I had an orange tutu and feathers in my hair. Not unlike what I wear when I go out clubbing nowadays. I might be lying, of course. 48 hours. And no, I'm not talking about that pishy b&s concert. That's just icing on the cake. love elisabeth xoxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carrick44 at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 06:01:56 1998 From: carrick44 at xxx.com (Carrick C Blair) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 01:01:56 EDT Subject: Sinister: Love That Dirty Water Message-ID: <19981022.231814.4591.0.carrick44@juno.com> Dear Brothers and Sisters, Well I've just returned, escaped rather, from the once fair city of Boston. And it seems the other attendees of last nights show only told you a small bit of what really happened. Like Stuart's forgetting the chords to Judy and The Dream of Horses was the only incident worth mentioning. Most likely, everyone is trying to cover their tracks, and not let on to the Boston Police their involvement in what has been determined to be the most subversive and violent rock and roll crowd to besmirch the fair streets of Olde Boston Towne since Jefferson Airplane burned American flags and led bands of rioting youths down Commonwealth Avenue back in 1968. It all started when our dear friend Jamie was unable to attend, and we were forced to sell our extra ticket out front. This caught the eye of the lone constable on duty who only assumed we were cheating the poor fellow. Only one officer was sent out for the show since the word on street was that all Belle and Sebastian fans were foppish, limp wristed, "cardie wearing biscuit nibbling", apathetic youngsters. But as we were being accosted by the cop, the crowd waiting to get in caused a fuss, and chased the poor man back to his squad car. Yet before the reinforcements arrived, we had barricaded ourselves in the auditorium. The show started on schedule, but the now riled up mob soon realized that the only drinks to be had was from the taps of the bathroom sinks, and proceeded to drown the opening band with chants of WE WANT BEER!!!, or for the few Brits in the audience, WE WANT CIDER!!!! Luckily a few gallant souls snuck out the back door during the break and skipped down to the local package store to see what they could find. They returned with armfuls of small airplane size bottles of Jameson's Irish Whiskey. These were swiftly distributed by being thrown from the balcony to the wanting and eager hands below. So by the time our heroes took the stage, they were greeted by the bacchanalian roar that we all know they deserve. At witnessing the revelry before him, Stuart Murdoch, seized by a sudden, ancestral, Calvinist zeal, scaled the wall behind the stage, and grabbed the stone tablets of the Ten Commandants which hung there and dashed them to pieces. The ignorant, heathen crowd did not understand Stuart's point and carried on in there wanton ways. Stuart than decided that in light of the recent lenient attitudes of the Church of England, it was best to continue the show, and soon got into the spirit of things. As you can imagine, even though the band was in fine form, and it certainly can be claimed that they ROCK!!!, the show proceeded in a somewhat tense atmosphere. What, with the majority of Boston's finest circling the auditorium and the supply of Jameson's Whiskey rapidly evaporating. It didn't help matters when the band after teasing us with Boston's More Than A Feeling, went into the loudest, most violent version of MC5's Kick Out The Jams this boy has ever heard. Hearing the battle cry of our protesting parents prepared the crowd well for what faced them outside, leading to much airplane size liquor bottle throwing which was of course followed by the police brandishing their night sticks and stun guns. The battle lasted until the wee hours of the morning, with the band skipping off in their tour bus in the midst of the fight to the safer confines of Philadelphia, and our side being reinforced with the majority of the student population of Boston University. Of course not much was left of the Auditorium, with much of the seating being torn up during concert to be used as barricades. No mid terms for a while, I'm afraid. All the throngs of Boston fans have now gone into hiding and no one will dare wear a B&S t-shirt for years to come. No matter really, since all shirts bought at the show had to be used as gas masks during the tear gas attack. All and all a good show. Only a few precious souls were lost. And a few have been caught by "The Man". Our prayers and thoughts are with them tonight. Boston will never be the same.The battle has just begun. And where was I during all of this? Hiding in the corner of the balcony, whimpering. Carrick With a little help from Shilough. "bacchanalian" was his word. See you in Philly. That was really silly, I'm sorry. Waiting 5 or is it 10 seconds. Thinking of Cliff. Oh well, I'll give it a try. _____________________ ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From oxygen at xxx.edu Fri Oct 23 06:20:54 1998 From: oxygen at xxx.edu (sad tomato) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:20:54 -0700 Subject: Sinister: walking dOWn the street Message-ID: <199810230520.WAA00220@uclink.berkeley.edu> hey, this is miss grumpy, i-hate-athens girl. thanks for slagging me off, both personally and on the list. it is nice to know that i am not godly, and am only human, and i put my big ole foot in my mouth just like everyone else in awhile. (for those who dont understand what the hell i am talking about....i am talking about how i was offensive to some people in athens.) meanwhile, on the other end of the city..... yes, for you who asked, heather, i was on the popscene mailing list but not on hoax, though i did know people there. and yes, to you who asked (forgot the name....too much mail to wade through...i am SORRY) sad tomato hails from r.e.m.'s late great "crush with eyeliner." the song is great, the video is great...japanese kids in cowboy hats! and anna sui fuzzy animal hats! i have been using this name ever since that monster album came out....i will probably change it when i grow up and get some big fancy-shmansy job somewhere. to anastasia: you were on hoax and popscene too, right? and i heard a story from someone once that you and some other people gave graham coxon a vassar t-shirt. or was that someone else? well, anyway, in a sort of recent issue of raygun magazine (the one with mini-articles about catatonia and rialto) there was a picture of mr. coxon wearing a vassar shirt...i thought that was neat-o. smut....just HOW would someone have anal sex with kittens? cy cnycu (for those who know welsh), robin. Blood oranges grow well in Florida, but they frighten American women. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 99rrrer at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 08:24:56 1998 From: 99rrrer at xxx.com (Joe) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:24:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: review of the boston show Message-ID: <199810230724.AAA19429@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Hey all, You'll have to excuse me because even though I'm a huge B&S fan, I still don't know who is who in the band, like the lead singer's name, for example. But here it goes: The Geek Chic contingent was in full force. Security seemed to be checking people's attire at the door. No one not dressed in Airwalks, corduroy pants, t-shirts with cardigans and thick black-rimmed glasses and smoking clove cigarettes was allowed into the auditorium. Truly a Smiths crowd if I've ever seen one. The Alannis Morrissette concert was the same night as well as game 4 of the Yankees game. Cool, artsy, effeminate guys (hey I'm one so I can say that!) at B&S, Jocks/Frat boys at bars for the Yankees game and just all-around lame-o's at the alannis show. Typically, the so-called 'cool' station (WFNX)was in full force at the alannis show, playing alannis all day on the radio while they still have NEVER played a B&S song. As for the show, it was good, not great. I love the band but they really need to work on their stage presence. I don't think I've ever seen 9 musicians (yes 9!) be less dynamic in my life. Here's the point by point review with the playlist at the end: Morse auditorium is a lousy venue for concerts with poor acoustics, a tiny stage and forced movie theater-like seating (which stops most people from dancing or even standing up to enjoy the band). B&S should've played a club instead but then I guess Alannis had Avalon covered now, didnt she? The band's song list wasn't the best. They skipped most of their great material and played a lot of their weakest tunes along with two new songs. (Do we really need to hear 'space boy dream' live?) The sound mix was a bit fucked up with the synth coming out twice as loud as the rest of the instruments. The band seemed really disorganized, and spent more time talking to each other between songs than they actually did playing songs. Also, half the band members looked like they REALLY didnt want to be there (ie Isabel who seemed to be having some sort of argument with the lead singer between each song.) But the lead singer was AMAZING. He is truly great. He actually hit those high notes he hits on the CD's (meaning his voice isnt doctored in the studio like so many other artists.)If he got rid of the rest of the band (and all the distractions they entailed)and just sang his songs by himself with just his guitar, it would be perfect. He's that exceptional. And seeing him live was worth all the letdowns from the other problems. Like the big sticking point. Virtually no talking to the audience. (except during a great mock cover of 'more than a feeling' by Boston) Five minutes between each song talking amongst themselves so the show didn't build to any climax. They played for maybe an hour, maybe a little longer (though again, half of that was spent talking amongst themselves) and then out of the blue, they just walked off the stage. No warning. No "this is our last song". And no encore. It just ended completely abruptly. It just felt really unsatisfying. The opening act "Containe" was pretty weak. Doors were scheduled to open at 8pm but due to a long soundcheck by B&S, doors didnt open til 8:45. When we got into the theater, Containe were starting their soundcheck. The show started late which might explain why B&S didnt play an encore? Maybe they had to end the show by a certain time? Still, they should just get rid of the opening act and double the length of their performance. Still, I do love them even if they suck live. (don't flame me) It's just my expectations were so high. But seeing them live, I doubt they'll ever be in the smiths or echo & bunnymen league. They just don't have the stage presence to make the leap to superstar status. (So I guess they'll remain our little secret, which is fine by me anyway) Here's the playlist. 14 song set. They opened the show brilliantly. (Which may have been cause for my letdown. They were so tight and excellent for the first few songs that it was startling to see them just fall apart as the show went on) This isn't the exact order but its reasonably close. They opened with "Simple things" from arab strap. Then "Beautiful" from 3.6.9. seconds. Then "is it wicked not to care?" from arab strap. Then "Century of Fakers" from 3.6.9 seconds. Then some song I've never heard before which sounded like it was about someone named Tony who sat in the back of class and eventually became a transvestite. I think the lead singer said it was a new song. Then the other guitarist who has the absolute worst voice I've ever heard sang some new song he'd just written which was abysmal. Well, it would be okay if the lead singer with the gorgeous voice sang it instead. Seriously, these people need to get a clue and let the lead singer bask in the spotlight since he's the one we all came to see. (Isabel lost all her appeal to me after the way she acted on stage). But that new song by the guy with the lousy voice just took the wind out of the performance and the show derailed from there. My friends and I were trying to guess what the lead singer and isabel were arguing about. or more precisely, what he seemed to be apologizing to her for while she sulked. We decided maybe she was jealous that he sang backup too loud on 'is it wicked not to care'. Or maybe that the crowd seemed to be applauding for him and not her. ANYWAY.... Then they played Sleep the clock around, seeing other people, like dylan in the movies, space boy dream, get me away from here I'm dying, boy with the arab strap, judy and the dream of horses and then closed with 'the boy done wrong again'. (great closer, huh?) So they didnt play most of my favorite songs, like stars of track and field, if youre feeling sinister, mayfly, ease your feet in the sea, summer wasting, dirty dream #2, chickfactor, brilliant career, put the book back on the shelf, etc, etc. thats it. I'm sure I pissed some people off by coming off too harsh. Like I said, it was great to see them live, it just wasnt a great show. Joe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NeilD at xxx.uk Fri Oct 23 09:35:07 1998 From: NeilD at xxx.uk (Neil Dewhurst) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:35:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Getting down to it - but not with a B&S soundtrack Message-ID: <704AE307AB53D2119EE300805F7DF755E30C@NCMSERVER> Kevan says >Someone, probably someone called Jessica, suggested getting down to some >low down dirty sweaty squelchy stuff to a soundtrack of Belle and Sebastian. >Surely the only music appropriate for such things is a smattering of Isaac >Hayes (for preliminary smoochiness) followed by the William Tell overture. > Then Michael wrote... No, no, no, no. THE lurve makin' soundtrack has to be Lets Get It On, by Marvin Gaye. The ladies dig it. The most. And rather than the WTO can I suggest the Ode to Joy part from Bette's 9th followed by the ending of the 1812 Overture (big thrust at every cannon). Ok, its a bit of nuisance getting up to change the CDs (especially between Ode and 1812), but the overall effect is definitely worth it. Possibly. After months of careful persuasion I finally persuaded my girlfiriend to listen to Moon Safari, by Air. After listening to it for ten minutes or so, in her usual sensitive vein she cried out - "it's a shag album. It's nothing but a shag album." At first I was offended that she took this outrageously promiscuous viewpoint, but as the album moved on she proved her theory to be a very good one, so I had a smoke and wondered if I had the energy to get up and press the repeat button. I have found in my past that the worst music to listen to whilst engaging in even mild jiggy-jiggy is anything you love. Maybe it's just me, or maybe it was my companion at the time, but it's just so distracting. The only upside is that you can maybe work out the chords while you're listening, or invent backing vocal harmonies. Ah, the romance. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Fri Oct 23 11:03:33 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:03:33 Subject: Sinister: L's and P's poem, and Stuart Murdoch Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981023110333.29dfe66a@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> abi : >ps. poem: >la la la la la la BELLE! >la la la la la one L! >la la la la la la CHEESE! >la la la la la two P's! > >it is dedicated to Philipppppppppppe. see, if everyone could remember that >little rhyme, they'd know how to spell his name. so long as they weren't >pedantic and pointing out that it's got three p's in it if you count the first >one. Oh my god! It's crazy, because I know this Philippe Poem, in french : Philippe la la comme pour Isobel la la la la la il y a un seul L Philippe la la c'est pas compliqué la la la la la il y a 2 P. I often use this little song when I am drunk and enable to spell my wee name. Did you notice that Isobel and me are sharing the same L ?! (I know that Campbell's got one P and 2 L's, but it is an exception to the rule) Did you notice that, at *every* gig, Stuart Murdoch forgets the lyrics of at least one song ? In Strasbourg it was Lazy line, in Paris it was Dirty Dream... But his lalalala's are so lovely! I think Honey Keith could put the list of these songs in the FAQ :) Paul wonders >Did they play TWG in Europe as I've never heard mention of it before. Yeap, The Wrong Girl (La fille fausse, as Stevie translated it) was played at the radio session in Paris at least. This means also that Paris *is* really in Europe (I was told that americans are bad at geography, but I doubt). Huge hugs (a special one for Stuart Murdoch) Philippe, the boy with 2 P's +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vegus at xxx.no Fri Oct 23 10:06:08 1998 From: vegus at xxx.no (Stein Vegusdal) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:06:08 +0200 Subject: Sinister: review of the boston show In-Reply-To: <199810230724.AAA19429@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981023110608.00a081d0@mail.a.sol.no> Hi! I went to four of the shows on the European tour, and they were all exactly as you describe them. But, unlike you, i thought all of them were brilliant... Belle & Sebastian don't do encores, they don't talk to the audience,(well actually they did some of that in Glasgow and Stockholm..) they don't use pyroflash, lasers or smokebombs, they don't jump around the stage like David Lee Roth, but they are still a great band to watch. I have been to over 500 gigs with all kinds of bands during the last 15 years, and i must say i have never, ever experienced such magic as i did at the B&S shows in Glasgow... Cheers Steinski Oslo, Norway PS! The name of the lead singer is Stuart Murdoch, the other one (the one you said had the worst voice ever) is called Stevie Jackson. The other members of the band are: Isobel Campbell: cello and vocals Richard Colburn: percussion Mick Cooke: trumpet Stuart David: bass guitar (spoken bits on space boy dream) Chris Geddes: keyboards Sarah Martin: violin, flute, melodica,recorder.... At 00:24 23.10.98 -0700, you wrote: > >Hey all, > >You'll have to excuse me because even though I'm a huge B&S fan, I still >don't know who is who in the band, like the lead singer's name, for example. > >But here it goes: > >The Geek Chic contingent was in full force. Security seemed to be checking >people's attire at the door. No one not dressed in Airwalks, corduroy pants, >t-shirts with cardigans and thick black-rimmed glasses and smoking clove >cigarettes was allowed into the auditorium. Truly a Smiths crowd if I've >ever seen one. The Alannis Morrissette concert was the same night as well as >game 4 of the Yankees game. Cool, artsy, effeminate guys (hey I'm one so I >can say that!) at B&S, Jocks/Frat boys at bars for the Yankees game and just >all-around lame-o's at the alannis show. Typically, the so-called 'cool' >station (WFNX)was in full force at the alannis show, playing alannis all day >on the radio while they still have NEVER played a B&S song. > >As for the show, it was good, not great. I love the band but they really >need to work on their stage presence. I don't think I've ever seen 9 >musicians (yes 9!) be less dynamic in my life. > >Here's the point by point review with the playlist at the end: > >Morse auditorium is a lousy venue for concerts with poor acoustics, a tiny >stage and forced movie theater-like seating (which stops most people from >dancing or even standing up to enjoy the band). B&S should've played a club >instead but then I guess Alannis had Avalon covered now, didnt she? > >The band's song list wasn't the best. They skipped most of their great >material and played a lot of their weakest tunes along with two new songs. >(Do we really need to hear 'space boy dream' live?) > >The sound mix was a bit fucked up with the synth coming out twice as loud as >the rest of the instruments. > >The band seemed really disorganized, and spent more time talking to each >other between songs than they actually did playing songs. Also, half the >band members looked like they REALLY didnt want to be there (ie Isabel who >seemed to be having some sort of argument with the lead singer between each >song.) > >But the lead singer was AMAZING. He is truly great. He actually hit those >high notes he hits on the CD's (meaning his voice isnt doctored in the >studio like so many other artists.)If he got rid of the rest of the band >(and all the distractions they entailed)and just sang his songs by himself >with just his guitar, it would be perfect. He's that exceptional. And seeing >him live was worth all the letdowns from the other problems. > >Like the big sticking point. Virtually no talking to the audience. (except >during a great mock cover of 'more than a feeling' by Boston) Five minutes >between each song talking amongst themselves so the show didn't build to any >climax. They played for maybe an hour, maybe a little longer (though again, >half of that was spent talking amongst themselves) and then out of the blue, >they just walked off the stage. No warning. No "this is our last song". And >no encore. It just ended completely abruptly. It just felt really unsatisfying. > >The opening act "Containe" was pretty weak. > >Doors were scheduled to open at 8pm but due to a long soundcheck by B&S, >doors didnt open til 8:45. When we got into the theater, Containe were >starting their soundcheck. The show started late which might explain why B&S >didnt play an encore? Maybe they had to end the show by a certain time? >Still, they should just get rid of the opening act and double the length of >their performance. > >Still, I do love them even if they suck live. (don't flame me) It's just my >expectations were so high. But seeing them live, I doubt they'll ever be in >the smiths or echo & bunnymen league. They just don't have the stage >presence to make the leap to superstar status. (So I guess they'll remain >our little secret, which is fine by me anyway) > >Here's the playlist. 14 song set. They opened the show brilliantly. (Which >may have been cause for my letdown. They were so tight and excellent for the >first few songs that it was startling to see them just fall apart as the >show went on) > >This isn't the exact order but its reasonably close. > >They opened with "Simple things" from arab strap. Then "Beautiful" from >3.6.9. seconds. Then "is it wicked not to care?" from arab strap. Then >"Century of Fakers" from 3.6.9 seconds. Then some song I've never heard >before which sounded like it was about someone named Tony who sat in the >back of class and eventually became a transvestite. I think the lead singer >said it was a new song. Then the other guitarist who has the absolute worst >voice I've ever heard sang some new song he'd just written which was >abysmal. Well, it would be okay if the lead singer with the gorgeous voice >sang it instead. Seriously, these people need to get a clue and let the lead >singer bask in the spotlight since he's the one we all came to see. (Isabel >lost all her appeal to me after the way she acted on stage). But that new >song by the guy with the lousy voice just took the wind out of the >performance and the show derailed from there. My friends and I were trying >to guess what the lead singer and isabel were arguing about. or more >precisely, what he seemed to be apologizing to her for while she sulked. We >decided maybe she was jealous that he sang backup too loud on 'is it wicked >not to care'. Or maybe that the crowd seemed to be applauding for him and >not her. > >ANYWAY.... > >Then they played Sleep the clock around, seeing other people, like dylan in >the movies, space boy dream, get me away from here I'm dying, boy with the >arab strap, judy and the dream of horses and then closed with 'the boy done >wrong again'. (great closer, huh?) > >So they didnt play most of my favorite songs, like stars of track and field, >if youre feeling sinister, mayfly, ease your feet in the sea, summer >wasting, dirty dream #2, chickfactor, brilliant career, put the book back on >the shelf, etc, etc. > >thats it. I'm sure I pissed some people off by coming off too harsh. Like I >said, it was great to see them live, it just wasnt a great show. > >Joe > > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JohnJ at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 10:37:44 1998 From: JohnJ at xxx.com (John Johnston) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:37:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: review of the boston show Message-ID: I know where Joe's comming from (although I don't know where he's been) with some of his comments on the Boston show (although I don't want Stuart to ditch the others!!). I've seen B&S 4 times now and I love their concerts but when he says > Five minutes between each song talking amongst themselves so the show didn't build to any climax. I know how he feels. >It just ended completely abruptly. It just felt really >unsatisfying. I've been there as well mate. I'm not asking for millions of costume changes - laser shows - Stuart on some kind of trapeze flying outover the crowd but just a bit more rapport with the audience. I love the fact that the music is king but there is something more than the music at a concert else we could all just stay at home and listen to the records. But different strokes for different folks - look at Stein's reaction and absolutely fair enough. I thought the concert in Shepherds Bush was to use a technical term "Iffy Biffy" but I know others thought it was "magical". The great thing is we're ALL right. The band are going to make their music, do their performances and let us make our own minds up. I'd like to finish with some Smut to keep Peter amused and all you other dedicated followers of filth but apparently I'm far too pure. I did one of those purity tests which gauge how much crazy, sex/drug/booze fuelled shenanigans you have got up to. One guy scored 288. I scored 13 - the comment "You are too pure for the church". So I've got nothing that would titilate you. Keep on keepin' on John xx > -----Original Message----- > >But here it goes: > > > >The Geek Chic contingent was in full force. Security seemed to be > checking > >people's attire at the door. No one not dressed in Airwalks, corduroy > pants, > >t-shirts with cardigans and thick black-rimmed glasses and smoking > clove > >cigarettes was allowed into the auditorium. Truly a Smiths crowd if > I've > >ever seen one. The Alannis Morrissette concert was the same night as > well as > >game 4 of the Yankees game. Cool, artsy, effeminate guys (hey I'm one > so I > >can say that!) at B&S, Jocks/Frat boys at bars for the Yankees game > and just > >all-around lame-o's at the alannis show. Typically, the so-called > 'cool' > >station (WFNX)was in full force at the alannis show, playing alannis > all day > >on the radio while they still have NEVER played a B&S song. > > > >As for the show, it was good, not great. I love the band but they > really > >need to work on their stage presence. I don't think I've ever seen 9 > >musicians (yes 9!) be less dynamic in my life. > > > >Here's the point by point review with the playlist at the end: > > > >Morse auditorium is a lousy venue for concerts with poor acoustics, a > tiny > >stage and forced movie theater-like seating (which stops most people > from > >dancing or even standing up to enjoy the band). B&S should've played > a club > >instead but then I guess Alannis had Avalon covered now, didnt she? > > > >The band's song list wasn't the best. They skipped most of their > great > >material and played a lot of their weakest tunes along with two new > songs. > >(Do we really need to hear 'space boy dream' live?) > > > >The sound mix was a bit fucked up with the synth coming out twice as > loud as > >the rest of the instruments. > > > >The band seemed really disorganized, and spent more time talking to > each > >other between songs than they actually did playing songs. Also, half > the > >band members looked like they REALLY didnt want to be there (ie > Isabel who > >seemed to be having some sort of argument with the lead singer > between each > >song.) > > > >But the lead singer was AMAZING. He is truly great. He actually hit > those > >high notes he hits on the CD's (meaning his voice isnt doctored in > the > >studio like so many other artists.)If he got rid of the rest of the > band > >(and all the distractions they entailed)and just sang his songs by > himself > >with just his guitar, it would be perfect. He's that exceptional. And > seeing > >him live was worth all the letdowns from the other problems. > > > >Like the big sticking point. Virtually no talking to the audience. > (except > >during a great mock cover of 'more than a feeling' by Boston) Five > minutes > >between each song talking amongst themselves so the show didn't build > to any > >climax. They played for maybe an hour, maybe a little longer (though > again, > >half of that was spent talking amongst themselves) and then out of > the blue, > >they just walked off the stage. No warning. No "this is our last > song". And > >no encore. It just ended completely abruptly. It just felt really > unsatisfying. > > > >The opening act "Containe" was pretty weak. > > > >Doors were scheduled to open at 8pm but due to a long soundcheck by > B&S, > >doors didnt open til 8:45. When we got into the theater, Containe > were > >starting their soundcheck. The show started late which might explain > why B&S > >didnt play an encore? Maybe they had to end the show by a certain > time? > >Still, they should just get rid of the opening act and double the > length of > >their performance. > > > >Still, I do love them even if they suck live. (don't flame me) It's > just my > >expectations were so high. But seeing them live, I doubt they'll ever > be in > >the smiths or echo & bunnymen league. They just don't have the stage > >presence to make the leap to superstar status. (So I guess they'll > remain > >our little secret, which is fine by me anyway) > > > >Here's the playlist. 14 song set. They opened the show brilliantly. > (Which > >may have been cause for my letdown. They were so tight and excellent > for the > >first few songs that it was startling to see them just fall apart as > the > >show went on) > > > >This isn't the exact order but its reasonably close. > > > >They opened with "Simple things" from arab strap. Then "Beautiful" > from > >3.6.9. seconds. Then "is it wicked not to care?" from arab strap. > Then > >"Century of Fakers" from 3.6.9 seconds. Then some song I've never > heard > >before which sounded like it was about someone named Tony who sat in > the > >back of class and eventually became a transvestite. I think the lead > singer > >said it was a new song. Then the other guitarist who has the absolute > worst > >voice I've ever heard sang some new song he'd just written which was > >abysmal. Well, it would be okay if the lead singer with the gorgeous > voice > >sang it instead. Seriously, these people need to get a clue and let > the lead > >singer bask in the spotlight since he's the one we all came to see. > (Isabel > >lost all her appeal to me after the way she acted on stage). But > that new > >song by the guy with the lousy voice just took the wind out of the > >performance and the show derailed from there. My friends and I were > trying > >to guess what the lead singer and isabel were arguing about. or more > >precisely, what he seemed to be apologizing to her for while she > sulked. We > >decided maybe she was jealous that he sang backup too loud on 'is it > wicked > >not to care'. Or maybe that the crowd seemed to be applauding for him > and > >not her. > > > >ANYWAY.... > > > >Then they played Sleep the clock around, seeing other people, like > dylan in > >the movies, space boy dream, get me away from here I'm dying, boy > with the > >arab strap, judy and the dream of horses and then closed with 'the > boy done > >wrong again'. (great closer, huh?) > > > >So they didnt play most of my favorite songs, like stars of track and > field, > >if youre feeling sinister, mayfly, ease your feet in the sea, summer > >wasting, dirty dream #2, chickfactor, brilliant career, put the book > back on > >the shelf, etc, etc. > > > >thats it. I'm sure I pissed some people off by coming off too harsh. > Like I > >said, it was great to see them live, it just wasnt a great show. > > > >Joe > > > > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- > --+ > > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To > unsubscribe > > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list > rules, > > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" > +-+ > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- > --+ > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > -+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To > unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list > rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" > +-+ > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > -+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aszolnoki at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 10:47:40 1998 From: aszolnoki at xxx.com (Andras Zalan Szolnoki) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 02:47:40 PDT Subject: Sinister: To Bertrand Caron Message-ID: <19981023094741.18492.qmail@hotmail.com> This message bounched back , so I thought I�ll send it through sinister.. Ciao >Well I think that you got two pieces of paper with the tape..... >noe of them has something in french written on it....I think , and >that�s the stamp ..eehh.. I mean that I payed for the tape to be sent to >you and the returned as well so that you did have to bother with with a >silly thing like that .. but I don�t know how it works.. >The other piece of paper was the only thing I found at the post-office , >and I just thought I should write you a merci beaucoup note .. that�s >all >I hope this helped you clear up the problem.... >Cheerio!!!!!!!! >Szola > >>From bertrand.caron at ensisun.imag.fr Wed Oct 21 07:00:53 1998 >>Received: from ensisun.imag.fr (ensisun.imag.fr [195.221.228.2]) >> by imag.imag.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA15712 >> for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:00:33 +0200 (MET DST) >>From: bertrand.caron at xxx.fr >>Received: from ensisun.imag.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) >> by ensisun.imag.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27515 >> for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:57:50 +0200 (MET DST) >>Message-ID: >>X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on Solaris >>X-Priority: 3 (Normal) >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>In-Reply-To: <19981020114439.17732.qmail at hotmail.com> >>Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:57:50 +0200 (MET DST) >>Sender: bcaron at ensisun.imag.fr >>To: Andras Zalan Szolnoki >>Subject: Re: I am interested + Thanks >> >> ok i received everything today, >>is the paper on which you wrote thank you important(there is something >on the >>back in norvegian(i suppose) but i don't anderstand... >>On 20-Oct-98 Andras Zalan Szolnoki wrote: >>> Bon jour! >>> I sent you a blank tape (90min) , on which you can put what ever nice >>> musique you want , in addition to the session , and of course if you >>> have the time/possibilities. I live In Norway , and in oslo to be >more >>> precise my address is : Hellerudgrenda 10 >>> 0672 oslo - Norway >>> thanks again !! >>> >>> p.s. I have already payed for the shipping/or flying I dunno which >back >>> as well , there is a piece of paper inside the envelope , but I dont >>> know how it works - I hope you do- >>> Ciao >>> >>>>From bcaron at enserg.fr Wed Oct 7 07:22:16 1998 >>>>Received: from enserg1.enserg.fr (enserg1.enserg.fr [192.93.176.90]) >>>> by enserg.enserg.fr (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA03830 >>>> for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:16:01 +0200 >(DST) >>>>Received: from enserg.fr (6067 at localhost [127.0.0.1]) >>>> by enserg1.enserg.fr (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA20919 >>>> for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:16:01 +0200 >>>>Sender: bcaron at enserg.fr >>>>Message-ID: <361B77A0.6C9B19D7 at enserg.fr> >>>>Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 15:16:00 +0100 >>>>From: bertrand CARON >>>>Organization: enserg >>>>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i686) >>>>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>>>To: Andras Zalan Szolnoki >>>>Subject: Re: I am interested >>>>References: <19981007101713.15416.qmail at hotmail.com> >>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >>>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by >enserg.enserg.fr >>> id QAA03830 >>>> >>>>Andras Zalan Szolnoki wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi fellow listee!!! >>>>> >>>>> I AM interrested a copy , and I could send a tape as well (of >>> course!) >>>>> The thing is that I=B4m not quite sure where to send it too...... >>>>> >>>>> Ciao Szola >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________________________________ >>>>> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >>>> >>>>ok no problems >>>>where are you from? >>>>i can send it to you and you will rehembers me >>>>my address >>>>bertrand CARON 137, av de l'Eygala >>>>38700 CORENC >>>>FRANCE >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________ >>> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> >>---------------------------------- >>E-Mail: bertrand.caron at ensimag.imag.fr >>Date: 21-Oct-98 >>Time: 15:55:58 >> >>This message was sent by XFMail >>---------------------------------- >> > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Fri Oct 23 10:41:29 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:41:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re: The best wintry B&S song? References: <19981022204051.26443.qmail@hotmail.com> <362FA08B.CE9CFF30@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Message-ID: <36304F49.E9276368@jeepster.co.uk> hello, Mick McMick wrote: > Hm...I was trying to pick a B&S song that sounds wintry. I want to make > a seasonal winter tape, with all sorts of wintry-sounding songs. I'd > tried once before, years ago, but I never got beyond just writing down > plausible songs. So I aim to try again, and I must put a B&S song on > there, it's mandatory. i've always thought "modern rock song" is a wintry song ... i can just imagine the snow falling when i hear it. cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From John.Stuart at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 11:03:44 1998 From: John.Stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:03:44 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Help!! Need Glasgow directions Message-ID: <93CA1ADD24AED111B6CF00A0C906763037FCCE@EDINBURGH> Could some helpful listee please give me directions to the "Old Fruit Market" in Glasgow, from Queen Street station? I'm going through twice in the next few weeks - Natalie Merchant (1/11) and Air (4/11). Nearby hotel recommendations would also be very welcome. Cheers. Nohj. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Fri Oct 23 11:06:35 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:06:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: World of Sport. Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7BF4@COR-EXG1> Kevan "Mick McManus" Cooke wrote : Did anyone else ever watch the wrestling on ITV? Not the WWF stuff, the old UK wrestling with Big Daddy and Giant Haystacks that they used to show until the mid-eighties. Great wasn't it. Oh, that wasn't what I meant to say at all. Do you remember the wrestler called Catweasel? You do? Well, that was Adrian Evans. No, really. Just ask him. Shame Manchester's off, I was looking forward to giving Evans another menacing. Get stuffed will you. Just get your facts right before you go blabbling your nonsense to 700+ people. I was Alan wotshisface. The deaf and dumb guy with the really bad fuck-off great red pants. I always used to take a real caning (blood, bones, that sort of thing) before coming good and whipping the bad guys butt. I'm a winner slug boy, and don't forget it. Naturally I'm a bit over-weight these days, but hey the y-fronts still fit a treat. The Boy Done again was wittering with someone about : The LAnt jackets i remember were kinda beigey "blouson" style jackets with cheesey tartan linings, zip-up pockets and elasticated wrists I had a black blouson style thing with said cheesey lining otherwise known as a Harrington I believe. I also had said Parka. Anyone who hasn't owned one of these top eighties eskimo fashionwear items has never experienced pain. Remember those cold winter mornings ? Mother passes you your packed lunch with your bag of Wotsits, looks at you and says..."You'll catch the death of cold like that". Grabs the zip (which at this point is probably ooh say collar height but has a good seven or eight inches leeway), and yanks it up to full eskimo setting, the zip catching the fleshy bit under the chin.....OUCH I SAY. Pierre de Mille : Am I alone in preferring Peter Withe to Stan Collymore? Nope. Bearded footballers are always going to rate more highly than those with no hair at all. But it has to be said that the West Ham side of the late seventies come out head and shoulders above Withey. Gary continued : I felt sorry for Big Daddy's tag team partner, cos they always had to have the crap beaten out of them for ten minutes, then somehow crawl over to the corner to tag BD before he kicked the shit out of the opponent. They do all the hard work, then he waltz's in a takes the glory. Doesn't seem fair to me. THAT WAS ME !!! And you're right it wasn't fair. I went to the wrestlers union about it, but all they said was "It's Big Daddy innit ? What can we do ? out hands are tied..The guys bigger than the sport itself innit ?" I considered changing tag partners to Paddy Roache, but he said he was leaving wrestling as he'd got a part in Auf Weidershen Pet as the bloke who never said much. Lovely Fluffy Sarah wrote : I can gurn well I supose. But not as well as people in Cornwall, like Adrian Evans who once shouted at me cos I called Cornwall posh in a moment of JEST, yes, I have a MEMORY for people who call me nasty names, watch out!!! Ohbloodybollocks I didn't shout at you, I don't come from Cornwall, you do have a bloody good memory, I didn't call you nasty names, and I only gurn well because my face is permanently screwed up because of the continuing stench of cow P!O!O! B&S content ? Hardyfuckingha !! Smut content ? Rim-cheese. (T!O!P!I!C!A!L!) Umberto Migraino. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Fri Oct 23 10:51:02 1998 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetryplace2) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:51:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Sebastien, you're in a mess... Message-ID: <01bdfe6a$a765d860$LocalHost@g5-200-3> Having been a committed Sinista (like a Sandinista, but with a cardigan) for over a year now, most B&S-related questions have been to my satisfaction; I feel a richer person for knowing exactly what an arab strap is, what manner of beast Elvis is, and the full story of the horse and the leopardskin catsuit. One question, however, continues to nag... Namely: what exactly do the original Belle et Sebastien make of our favourite madcap twangle-pop-tarts? To find out more, I commandeered the Jeepster private jet (it has a nice picture of piglet on the tailfin, on KatrinaÂ’s expressed instructions) and flew off to the French Riviera where the boy and dog who enchanted a generation of viewers live out their twilight years in Mediterranean languor. I caught up with the couple on the balcony of their beachfront villa in Cannes. Sebastien reclined on an Alessi deckchair, Hefneresque in a silk monogramed dressing gown, sucking occasionally on one of those plastic cigarette substitutes between sips of chardonnay, while Belle lounged in the sun, enjoying the attentions of a couple of nubile labradors. I immediately put my foot in it by addressing the boy as “Seb”. “Listen kid, thatÂ’s Monsieur Sebastien, if you donÂ’t fucking mind! Show some goddamn respect.” Apologising, I asked how he felt about a bunch of Glaswegian hipsters adopting his moniker. “Well, itÂ’s about fucking time, ainÂ’t it?” replied the ageing boychild. “Back in the eighties every two-bit kids celebrity had their own shambling band: the Woodentops, The Clangers, Marine Boy... you name it. Those guys were making big bucks from dumbass college kids buying their old shows on video. The fucking Soup Dragon used to show up here every evening, coked up to her eyeballs, crowing about how her boys had done her good. We had the last laff with that one, of course... “IÂ’m Free”: what a crock of shit!” I quickly ascertained that the passing years had tipped the scales from innocence to experience for Msr Sebastien. What, I asked, had he been up to since his early seventies heydey? I had heard that the show had ended amid “creative differences”. “Listen,” he said, draining the remnants of chardonnay and pouring himself a large tumbler of Scotch, “that dumb bitch Aubrey wouldnÂ’t give me creative control. I was the star! Without me she woulda been some fucking frog peasant, picking potatoes in some field somewhere. I was sick of the whole “poor boy searching for his mom” shtick. I wanted to bring the show into the seventies, in a kinda Dukes of Hazzard direction. The kids were going crazy for that stuff... We coulda had a few car chases, some hot broads in cut-offs. But no, she wouldnÂ’t have it.” What happened? “Well I dragged the mangey mutt there,” he said, gesturing towards Belle, “out to LA. I figured we could strike up a deal with Disney or something. Turns out they were already working on “Digby, the Biggest Dog in the World” , compared to which some crummy Pyranean mountain dog is chump change. They didnÂ’t need anymore fucking fleabags. Next, we headed down to Hanna-Barbera.... Those assholes wouldnÂ’t even let us make a guest appearance on Captain fucking Caveman. The studio system is fucked, kid, the suits have got control and they just donÂ’t appreciate class anymore.” “After that, I... I lost a coupla years. I was hanging out in LA with Willis, yÂ’know from Different Strokes, and that Gonch guy from Grange Hill. Wild, wild times, baby! It was just a blizzard of coke... In the end I got busted for selling a coupla rocks of crack to Velma from Scooby Doo. I was sent into rehab, and came out a stronger wiser kid.” He moved onto his second Scotch, and lit a pungent Havana cigar. “Then, of course, the royalties started coming in from all the re-runs on Nickelodeon. Belle there invested the cash in a couple of those Wallace and Grommit films – Gad! I love those crazy Brits! – and with the takings she bought this place and took me back in.” A heartwarming story. But what did he think of the latest B&S meisterwerk, “The Boy with the Arab Strap”? “The boy with the whaaaat? Listen, I had heard this band were a bunch of fucking queers, but this is too much! I gotta call my lawyers!” And with this he stumbled from his chair, slipped in a puddle of scotch, and crawled off to look for the phone. I decided to let myself out. As I passed Belle, I asked her what she thought of the band. “Mon cher,” she replied huskily, in a voice not unlike that of Isabelle Huppert, “I think they are – ‘ow you say? – seemply deeeeeevine....” +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nmontaldi at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 11:11:40 1998 From: nmontaldi at xxx.com (Nikolas Montaldi) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:11:40 PDT Subject: Sinister: MATTHEW SHEPARD ISSUE Message-ID: <19981023101140.19017.qmail@hotmail.com> HI LIST, this may have no obviuos connection with our beloved "Belle and Sebastian",but I just wanted to get a few thoughts across about Matthew Shepard,the 22 year old gay student who died last week as a result of a horrific gay bashing attack. This story got very little coverage over here in the U.K,but seems to have set of heated debating and an outpouring of grief in America. I first came across it in last Sundays Observer ,where a photograph of Shepard appeared next to one of anti-gay demonstraters declaring "God hates Fags".Seeing Shepards extremely sympathetic and kind face,I tried to find out more about the whole thing. Call me silly if you like,but the more I read the closser I felt to that guy.Somehow he is a very Belle and Sebastian-esque character,a boy who "thought there was love in everything and everyone",a little naive and ultimately tragic.The press described him as someone unable to find his place,"shy,gentle and mellow",with strong interests in theatre,literature and human rights. He just seems to have been such a lovely person I wish I'd known him.It just makes me sick to think that poeple dared to shout "No tears for Queers" outside his funeral service.What kind of world is this? Sorry to mention serious things,but I'm sure that there is some space for this on the list. Take care everyone, NIK ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From j_rosenquist at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 12:23:05 1998 From: j_rosenquist at xxx.com (Joachim Rosenquist) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:23:05 CEST Subject: Sinister: two unreleased B&S songs Message-ID: <19981023102305.15725.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi! Ok, here's an offer for people who has the Tigermilk-record on tape. I'd very much like to have a copy of my own. In exchange I have managed to get over two unreleased B&S-songs called "I know where the summer goes" and "The gate". These songs were included on a tape of their new record wich was sent to musicjournalists. But apparently they didn't make it onto the album. Very strange if you ask me, since the songs are great! Please mail me in person, not the list if you are interested. Joachim Rosenquist joaros at yahoo.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From goodforyoo at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 12:47:36 1998 From: goodforyoo at xxx.com (milla-isobel gregor) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:47:36 GMT Subject: Sinister: rawk Message-ID: <19981023114736.5359.qmail@hotmail.com> h'loo could any kind soul outta der lemme kno if/when Air are playing in London? b+s content: none smut content: an arab strap actually slightly traps the veins at the base, making Monsieur slightly MORE to attenshun. I think anyone who has tried one, or something similar, should tell all... Henry Rollins is doing his spoken word stuff on Mon 9th November in the Barbican (Black Coffee Blues etc). Jus' thought I'd let you know good souls know. cheers MILLA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ There is more than glass between the snow and the huge roses ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JJPartyka at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 12:47:45 1998 From: JJPartyka at xxx.com (JJPartyka at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 07:47:45 EDT Subject: Sinister: review of the boston show Message-ID: In a message dated 10/23/98 7:30:01 AM, you wrote: < Hello Siinister siblings - Re. Rachael's Tom Waits-spotting story: I have not only a Tom Waits-spotting story, albeit a 'friend of a friend' one, but a Close Relation Of A Key Member Of B&S-spotting story (altough the latter is a bit lame when I think about it.) Anyway, Mr Waits: There have been several spottings of Tom Waits around the Kerry area, waay down in the South of Ireland. But the best one has to be the following, which someone told e at the Liss Ard festival earlier this year. A mate of his was in a pub in a tiny village in Kerry, when the unmistakable Mr. Waits came in with one of the locals, and proceeded to have a few pints. After the Guinness had been flowing for a while, Mr. Waits started eyeing the piano and asked the landlady if she'd mind if he played a few tunes. Her response was "Oh, no, the piano belongs to my husband, he's not here and he doesn't like people playing it". he tried to explain to her who he was, and the rest of the patrons, salivating at thet idea of an impromptu accoustic singalonga-Tom, pleaded his case. But she wouldn't budge. The piano styed locked, Mr.Waits had another pint and left. My friend's friend wept into his beer. Much more relevant to the list, but far less interesting is my boyfriend's story about the middle-aged Scottish gentleman who was browsing in the record shop where he works (Borderline Records in Dublin), who asked the owner had he heard of B&S, and did he have any of their records. My boyf's boss, phillistine that he is, said something akin to "oh yeah... them... no, we don't have anything..." Then the gentleman revealed himself to be none other than - gasp! - Stuart Murdoch's dad! My boyfriend, despite being an extremely shy startled-bunny type, managed to pipe up and assert that he was a fan. Mr.Murdoch Snr. seemed to be impressed that someone in Ireland had even heard of B&S. But when I asked my boyfriend what he looked like, expecting tales of a distinguished chiseled manly jaw, sparkling eyes with just a hint of melancholy, etc., all I got was "He looked like somebody's Dad." Oh well. This has been a very long posting, so I'll be off. But before I go: Robin - the best way of cleaning vinyl is just lukewarm soapy water and a soft cloth, but you can buy expensive preparations in swanky hifi shops. Byee, Lolo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From goon_koch at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 13:45:35 1998 From: goon_koch at xxx.com (Goon Koch) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 05:45:35 PDT Subject: Sinister: field mice Message-ID: <19981023124535.14640.qmail@hotmail.com> Folks, I've been hearing about the Field Mice on this list, and I've been doing a little research, and I'm hooked; I have to hear them. Is there a kind soul out there who could possible prepare a tape for me? Please contact me directly and we'll see if I can offer you something suitable in trade . . . Thanks, -g. k.- "the center of things from where everything springs is not where i belong" -tindersticks- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From WarranderJ at xxx.uk Fri Oct 23 14:01:21 1998 From: WarranderJ at xxx.uk (Warrander John - FML) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:01:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Go on, put it in your mouth Message-ID: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B0036CE57@gateway.finnigan.co.uk> Bonjour, French pop, eh? Educational. Anyway, if there's anybody out there in the North of England who doesn't want to go to a really indie club then Smile's on every week and it's not very indie. And if you didn't come last week cos you thought you might be a bit intimidated by the global celebrity on the decks, then this week it's back to the usual losers so why not pop along and feel good about yourself. We promise not to play any Field Mice and in fact we have a special three-pronged attack for anyone who requests that kind of nonsense. Julian punches them, Emma pours petrol over them and I throw the match. Quite affective we find. Petula greeted me thus: >Hello John, we meet at last. Hello to you too, my dear. I hear you're going to cook me a meal? You'd better be good at it. I've got quite high standards you know. Then she forgave me and filled a gap in my pop knowledge: >I'll forgive you for the lingerie comments and >tell you a bit more about those songs. They hail from the (bootleg) Ultra >Chicks series: "Filles in the Garage" and "Lolita Ya-Yas". Not only are they >full of fantastic pop, but if you own actual copies they make you look >really cool as well. Next time you have a party and when the music boys do >the inevitable flip through your records, put them straight in front and >they'll get really jealous. Such a nice, kind girl. Very clean. Anyway, I think having these things on tape is much more beneficial than having the originals. Not only can you impress people with you're fantastic pop selections when they come round to your house. You can seamlessly display what hip and groovy friends you have too. And er, smut? Well I did hold big JB's hand in central Manchester last night. We thought we were being subversive but I think we just looked like a pair of poofters. Why do people apologise for no B&S content? It never bothers me. Au Revoir good people. And bad people too. Love...John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stanj034 at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 14:05:00 1998 From: stanj034 at xxx.com (Stan) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 06:05:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Boston Show Message-ID: <199810231305.GAA25852@avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net> I was at the Boston show too and thought they were excellent. My only disappointment was the t-shirts all sold out. As part of the 'geek chic' contingent alluded to by Joe, I thought you might all be interested in a cool website a few of us B&S fans have been checking out, sordid, funny tales by some alienated college student in chicago. http://www.talesofwoe.com Stan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Oct 23 14:12:41 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:12:41 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Photo Jenny-talia Message-ID: <01bdfe86$d1562b40$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Before getting down to the pressing matter of my missing willy, may I thank Trousers for another gripping piece of investigative journalism. Apparently I have no willy, but I have a balsawood dildo. I suppose you think that's funny, don't you McRagtag? Well, it isn't. Because it's true. I was seperated from my Man's Best Friend in a bizarre knob-chopping accident in the Canadian Redwoods, just after enjoying a spot of that thing they do where two blokes are on a floating log and they try to get the other one to fall in. I like that, it's a good sport, that is. To make matters worse, my friend Billy has a ten foot willy and he showed to the nextdoor neighbour. She thought it was a snake and hit it with a rake, and now it's only five foot four. No but serously, I have got a willy, albeit an unnaturally enormous great whopper. In fact, I'm writing this with both hands tied behind my back. That's my smut for the day. Sarah, you can find JO DUNNE on page 74 of the "November" edition of "Q" Magazine for Grown-ups. The other three are YOUR MATES in Preston. Tag said: Talking of endurance shagging (which I wasn't, but you lot were), Serge Gainsbourg, when asked if the sounds of carnal pleasure on "Je t'aime...moi non plus" were genuine, replied "Of course not, it's only a single. If it was real, it would be a long player". Yesterday I saw a 3 CD box set of Serge recordings, which was very nice, but it cost a bomb, about fifty quids of your english money, and also "L'Histoire de Melodie Nelson" for about eighteen of your english pounds quid. Seems a little unreasonable to me. Tonight I shall be helping to keep music live by going to see Mark Someone from the Screaming Trees and Mike Someone from Dinosaur Jr. I wish it was Murph, but it isn't. I've never heard any Screaming Trees or Mark Someone, so I don't know what to expect, so I've decided to expect country-tinged grunged up melodic rockers that betray the influence of Gram Parsons and The Lotus Eaters. In fact, I'm thinking of putting money on it. "What is the point," thought Alice, "of a petiton without any signatures on it?" Wouldn't it be better for each person to write a proper letter to the appropriate address? It's a bit more troublesome, but I think it would be more effective. Just a thought. Peter ------------------------------------------------------------ ------ Keywords: penis, marital aids, young people, Preston, folk-inflected, French pop, Come back Honey, Turkish football in Europe, ringpiece, ripped rectal lining, clitoral ejaculation, gay rights. ------------------------------------------------------------ ------ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samiamx at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 14:07:51 1998 From: samiamx at xxx.com (Sam Devere) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 06:07:51 PDT Subject: Sinister: DC Meetup Message-ID: <19981023130752.26709.qmail@hotmail.com> Mick has made a plea, so let's get organized. The Philly contingent is making us look bad. Moreover, it will make it easier on the out of town folks. First off, you DC townies speak up...Kim, Meghan, Thaian, Matt, Lara, Chris (notdog on wheels boy), Jessica (delware9aol.com Jessica) and Christa...I'm sure there are more (the other Jessica already said she can't meet up before). I suggest either Pharmacy Bar (in Adams Morgan) or Chi Cha, a few blocks from the Black Cat. The Pharmacy Bar has a cool jukebox, it's got the new B&S, Red House Painters, Joy Division, loads of other good cds. It has murals of ill people on the walls and pills inside the laminated tables. For any hypochondriacs (sp?), it's a must. It's kinda small, and not many people should be there. Only thing is that it's not within walking distance. I've only been to Chi Cha once, but it's a little dark inside, with lots of velour couches. The advantage over Pharmacy is that it is within walking distance of the Black Cat. How does 7:30 sound? Any other suggestions? I don't care where we meet, as long as we do. Please e-mail me or post to the Jeepster site and I'll coordinate. Also, I may not be able to join you at the show because I'm still looking for tix if anyone comes across any... Sam ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 14:19:20 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid Dossinger) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:19:20 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Encores, wintery songs, etc. Message-ID: <36308258.FE927BDC@bigfoot.com> Amazing. Three digests are waiting in my mailbox this morning and not ONE description of the Philly show. I just think it's interesting is all, considering how many reviews we got of the Boston show (which is great...keep 'em coming). > The show started late which might explain why B&S > didnt play an encore? > I don't think that B&S have been playing ANY encores. Which I think is GREAT. I'm so sick of encores. The band walks off the stage, goes back to have a drink and an a 30-second rest, while we're supposed to stay packed in like sardines clapping and cheering to show our great appreciation and then pretend that we called them back for an encore?! I'm thrilled that they're not playing any encores. Just another entry into the file of "Reasons to Love Belle and Sebastian." > Hm...I was trying to pick a B&S song that sounds wintry. I want to make > a seasonal winter tape, with all sorts of wintry-sounding songs. Maybe this has to do with the time of the year that I bought it, or maybe it has to do with all the mentions of snow and rain, but pretty much the entire album of Sinister (minus Mayfly) sounds wintery to me. The only song on The Boy that I think sounds wintery is "The Rollercoaster Ride", which I'd love to listen to while watching those big, thick flakes that I only ever saw in Alaska. But I think it's all because Stuart M. has that perfect "cozy up" voice. A few random thoughts: I'd just like to point out that Atlanta, GA is one of the ten biggest markets in the country, but somehow, still doesn't have any really good rock 'n' roll clubs. Athens does, though, in the form of the 40 Watt. Just to clear that up for anyone who's still wondering why Belle and Sebastian are playing there (less than a week away...Hose me DOWN, I'm excited!) I went into Chapel Hill's hipper-than-hip record store, Two-Way Pull, where I'm always a little intimidated because they might find out that I listen to major label bands, but instead of being intimidated, I got to give the owners a nice, long lecture about all of Belle and Sebastian's releases. They were impressed, and I felt indie-ly vindicated. And I got an apology from one of them who had previously insisted to me that it was the singer of Arab Strap on "Spaceboy Dream". He was appropriately embarrassed: "Just because it's a guy with a Scottish accent doesn't mean it's the singer from Arab Strap." And I'll be taping Tigermilk for one of the owners, who will be rewarding me with a tape of the "new" Stereolab. 27 since Tuesday, Reid "If the editors of the Manhattan Argus see fit to publish the rantings of a disordered mind, perhaps they will see fit to publish this letter." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 21:53:57 1998 From: Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com (Anastasia Signoretta) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:53:57 EDT Subject: Sinister: seeing other people that look like bernard sumner Message-ID: alix wrote: > the picture of StuartM in select( with the review) looks much too like > darren day, who i am regretably related to very distantly > (grandfathers' fathers' great grandson, i believe). incidentally, whilst flipping through that select during one of my far-too-few cigarette breaks and looking for the b+s review, i saw the stuart pic but mistakenly thought it was a *new order* review and took mr. murdoch to be *bernard sumner*. oops! the thing is, before that initial glance, i had never laid eyes on our beloved hero. apologies to stuart for the mis-taking. new york in nine days, wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! have we finalised any meet-up plans, kids? oh...i bought the gomex record 'bring it on' the other day cos it was reduced price and of course i am curious about mercury prize winners. and now i can't stop listening to it. tell me, is there something wrong with me? or do i just have exceptional music taste? stasia-wasia anastasia signoretta atlantic records international media relations 1290 avenue of the americas 24th floor new york, ny 10104 212.707.2619 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 'but how can i see stars if my feet are on the ground?' ride ------------- Original Text >From "Alix Campbell" , on 10/22/98 3:44 PM: SUBJECT too long. Original SUBJECT is Sinister: hey americans, you may be fat, but at least you're not english ---------------------- Original Message Follows ---------------------- forget northern soul, the mighty wurlitzer is the future. it is ideally suited to those interested in melancholy, i played some to a friend and she wept. i didn't know that the Dog on Wheels version of The State I Am In was a demo. i've not heard the other, but i adore the version i know. also i want a dog on wheels, where can i procure such an object? because i have a tres short memory my regrets are normally quite vague, or unspecific, but the two very vivid ones i do have both concern B&S: 1. reading a review for tigermilk, in select and thinking about buying it coz it had a good name...and not buying it 2. queueing outside the zodiac (oxford) last year for a B&S gig without a ticket, then giving up and going to the pub. the people who stayed got in. has funkyseb really gone? as for footballers, i don't see the appeal of beckham, etc, but quite like Suker from Croatia. it's not a 'fancying' thing, more a 'ooh, he's sweet'. Kind of like how i feel about Michael Palin. Am I sick? the picture of StuartM in select( with the review) looks much too like darren day, who i am regretably related to very distantly (grandfathers' fathers' great grandson, i believe). le roule is best cheese - soft, mild and herby, yet captivating. like expensive philadelphia with green bits chucked in. how does one learn to play the trumpet? i am inspired by the trumping on beautiful and doggone wheels. i have a heads tart coz i used to play tenor horn in ma yout. i went to a proper restaurant for the first time on saturday. it was bizarre - we were treated like grown ups, and it was unnerving. can i contribute to the smut content of the list, or am i supposed to be nice and girly? i'm very good at smut, but i can go too far. that's me done. now i'll cycle to sainsbury's, which is about a mile away, just to buy some cigarettes. talk about pathetic. orve wah. alix 'doris prouty' campbell ( who was called an ignorant fuck the other night) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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Original SUBJECT is Sinister: hey americans, you may be fat, but at least you're not english ---------------------- Original Message Follows ---------------------- forget northern soul, the mighty wurlitzer is the future. it is ideally suited to those interested in melancholy, i played some to a friend and she wept. i didn't know that the Dog on Wheels version of The State I Am In was a demo. i've not heard the other, but i adore the version i know. also i want a dog on wheels, where can i procure such an object? because i have a tres short memory my regrets are normally quite vague, or unspecific, but the two very vivid ones i do have both concern B&S: 1. reading a review for tigermilk, in select and thinking about buying it coz it had a good name...and not buying it 2. queueing outside the zodiac (oxford) last year for a B&S gig without a ticket, then giving up and going to the pub. the people who stayed got in. has funkyseb really gone? as for footballers, i don't see the appeal of beckham, etc, but quite like Suker from Croatia. it's not a 'fancying' thing, more a 'ooh, he's sweet'. Kind of like how i feel about Michael Palin. Am I sick? the picture of StuartM in select( with the review) looks much too like darren day, who i am regretably related to very distantly (grandfathers' fathers' great grandson, i believe). le roule is best cheese - soft, mild and herby, yet captivating. like expensive philadelphia with green bits chucked in. how does one learn to play the trumpet? i am inspired by the trumping on beautiful and doggone wheels. i have a heads tart coz i used to play tenor horn in ma yout. i went to a proper restaurant for the first time on saturday. it was bizarre - we were treated like grown ups, and it was unnerving. can i contribute to the smut content of the list, or am i supposed to be nice and girly? i'm very good at smut, but i can go too far. that's me done. now i'll cycle to sainsbury's, which is about a mile away, just to buy some cigarettes. talk about pathetic. orve wah. alix 'doris prouty' campbell ( who was called an ignorant fuck the other night) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atieger at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 14:57:09 1998 From: atieger at xxx.com (aaron tieger) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 06:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981023135709.16443.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> > > Subject: weighing in on the boston show > > > > Man, what a great show. It was so nice to be able to > > sit and be comfortable and not gag on smoke and be > > able to HEAR and UNDERSTAND the lyrics to all the > > songs for a change. I was so glad they weren't at the > > Middle East. Anyway, it was the best show I've seen > > since, um, well since Monday night actually > > (Cordelia's Dad @ the Iron Horse in Northampton). > > > > I thought it was quite soothing to see him forget the > > chords. The kind of thing where I thought "that's > > what I'd do!" Perhaps there's hope for me yet. > > > > Does anyone know what the instrument Sarah was > > playing was? The one that looked like a melodica with > > an oxygen tube attached to it? > > > > Does anyone know the girl who got up and danced > > during "Judy and the Dream of Horses"? She was cool. > > > > I've just realized how boring this sounds. Sorry-- I > > just got up. The last I'll say is that I thought > > containe were pretty good, especially when they > > rocked out a bit more. I liked them better than > > versus, I think. The second song they played (I > > think), "shy song" (the one dedicated to B&S) was > > great. And that singer... hoo boy. > > > > aaron > > > > ps- does anyone else ever suffer from post-show > > malaise? also, has anyone ever actually met someone > > at a show? > > > > === > > atieger at rocketmail.com > > auger/anvil > > > > "I might walk home alone > > but my faith in love is still devout" _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail, free e-mail for the planet. * Visit & explore Cybersmith at http://www.cybersmith.com * Get your web-based e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bs8 at xxx.uk Fri Oct 23 10:33:47 1998 From: bs8 at xxx.uk (Barry Stormont) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:33:47 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk mint cond. album 4 sale In-Reply-To: <362F10E8.571@virgin.net> Message-ID: Is there any way you could find it in your heart to record it for me before you sell it. I will post you a high quality blank cassette. ALthough I do not have the resources to buy the album I would happily give a small cash donation to the charity of your choice. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Buy the sky, and sell the sky", bs8 at st-andrews.ac.uk On Thu, 22 Oct 1998, Kristian Drew wrote: > > Hello everyone > > I am a new subscriber. > > I know you guys don't appreciate commercial > selling stuff but I have a Tigermilk vinyl mint condition album which > I'd like to sell and I was wondering if any of you have any suggestions > as to where I should be going for offers. Funny, I thought this place > may be as good as any to start. So if any of you are inerested, please > contact me. > > Thanks. > > Kristian > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From woodsb at xxx.uk Fri Oct 23 15:13:12 1998 From: woodsb at xxx.uk (Stephen Wood) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:13:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: No subject was specified. Message-ID: <36308EDE.513A97C4@sbu.ac.uk> unsubscribe sinister-digest +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mwsnyder at xxx.edu Fri Oct 23 15:26:28 1998 From: mwsnyder at xxx.edu (matthew william snyder) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:26:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: philly show pre-review? In-Reply-To: <36308258.FE927BDC@bigfoot.com> from "Reid Dossinger" at Oct 23, 98 09:19:20 am Message-ID: <199810231426.KAA25670@red.seas.upenn.edu> | | Amazing. Three digests are waiting in my mailbox this morning and not | ONE description of the Philly show. I just think it's interesting is | all, considering how many reviews we got of the Boston show (which is | great...keep 'em coming). now that i have wiped up the small yellowish puddle that developed around my feet after reading this, i can tell you, sir, that in fact the show is today, hence no reviews. unless someone wants to post a review of a concert that hasn't happened yet. has that been done? i smell niche-market. what's this nonsense about t-shirts being sold out? the supply can't possibly be exhausted!? what were they selling for, anyway? any other interesting merchandise at the boston show? i'm just trying to get an idea of how much money i should bring to the show. to answer my own question of yesterday, i picked up the cinerama album, and i must say, it is horrible. something something humble opinion something something. but yes, really bad. ah, the eternal question -- get there early to secure a spot near the stage, or late to avoid the horror of david gedge? on an unrelated note, the new high llamas remix album that is soon to be released is good, if you like that sort of thing. miles better than the low remix album. the jim o'rourke track is really good. except it has those funny bits at the beginning where it sounds like your CD is skipping even though it isn't, sort of like on "golden ball" by stereolab. removing his heart from his throat, matthew +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From WarranderJ at xxx.uk Fri Oct 23 15:43:16 1998 From: WarranderJ at xxx.uk (Warrander John - FML) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:43:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Oops, faux pas alert, sorry Message-ID: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B0036CE58@gateway.finnigan.co.uk> Erm, sorry if my previous little "poofers" comment offended anybody. I realise we've had a couple of serious mails recently concerning the evils of homophobia and equality issues and I assure you I was in no way meaning to be derogatory or homophobic. Love...John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From donovan at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 16:32:52 1998 From: donovan at xxx.com (donovan finn) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:32:52 -0400 Subject: Sinister: misc. Message-ID: someone asked about t-shirts earlier. at the boston show they were selling stowe college shirts (the light blue ones) and black t's with the IYFS album cover artwork. i know they had various sizes of both, but there WERE XL's of the black ones. i think there were XS's of the blue one, so there you go. i'm not sure if they are planning onselling the white TBWTAS shirts at any point or not. They did pretty much sell out of shirts at the gig, but that was only the allotment for that night. To make sure they don't sell out before the later gigs, the band are selling only a certain portion of shirts each night. I suggest buying before the show for best selection. There are no CD's being sold at the shows. -df +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com Thu Oct 22 23:40:12 1998 From: Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com (Anastasia Signoretta) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:40:12 EDT Subject: Sinister: new york age ordeal Message-ID: hi there, you know, it was never finalised if the new york gigs were 16+ or 21+ anyone have anything to share? stasia p.s. hi lorraine! anastasia signoretta atlantic records international media relations 1290 avenue of the americas 24th floor new york, ny 10104 212.707.2619 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 'but how can i see stars if my feet are on the ground?' ride +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mjs2 at xxx.net Fri Oct 23 16:52:54 1998 From: mjs2 at xxx.net (mathew schwartz) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:52:54 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Boston Globe concert review Message-ID: <199810231559.LAA12500@underneath.sentrytech.com> Here's another review, from the best Boston daily newpaper, but sadly it contains no innuendo. At least he did his homework! (but first, from another matthew ...) >to answer my own question of yesterday, i picked up the cinerama >album, and i must say, it is horrible. Oh no are they really that bad? Has Gedge completely lost his edge? It seemed like they'd be a great opener. Boston t-shirts were about $15 (one in blue with retro-logo that all the cool kids bought right away and then one with sinister album cover on black, which made it look like a mobile billboard of sorts for the band -- ya know, the cover kind of loses its subtlety when it's in bright inks). --mat MUSIC REVIEW Cult band from Glasgow just a little too lulling By Jim Sullivan, Globe Staff, 10/23/98 There is no Belle or Sebastian in Belle and Sebastian. This 2 1/2-year-old octet from Glasgow takes its moniker from a French novel by Cecile Aubry, which was turned into a children's TV series in Europe during the early '70s. Pretty obscure, no? Yet, Belle and Sebastian may be the hippest cult band on the planet right now - definitely the case in the United Kingdom. Their third album, ``The Boy With the Arab Strap,'' is a critical success, and their concert at the 660-capacity Morse Auditorium Wednesday night sold out three weeks ago. Their hourlong set was the first date of their US tour and their first Boston appearance. Belle and Sebastian is a clean-cut, collegiate-looking group, nominally fronted by singer-guitarist Stuart Murdoch. We say nominally because he hates the front man tag, considers himself one-eighth of the mix and at times Wednesday disappeared behind a bank of keyboards, leaving a center-stage gap. The group also eschews interviews and photo sessions, lending them a certain mystique. (When they have spoken, they've explained they just consider most rock talk a waste of time.) ``Reading about a band's antics can take away from their music,'' drummer Richard Colburn told the Glasgow Herald earlier this month. Belle and Sebastian are a lilting, at times lulling, folk-rock band, reminiscent of the late Nick Drake (without the dark side) or the groups Dream Academy and Aztec Camera. Of course, the Velvet Underground is in there - ``Like Dylan in the Movie'' boasts ``Sweet Jane'' chords. They're a band of many subdued colors - cello from Isobel Campbell, violin from Sarah Martin, muted trumpet from Mick Cook. It's not flashy; it's a tapestry. Listening to B and S is like taking a canoe down a bubbly brook, with Murdoch's wispy, conversational tenor serving as a guide, augmented by guitarist-secondary singer Stevie Jackson. The concert began with ``Simple Things,'' and Murdoch's soft-sung declaration of ``If you want me I'll be there/A boy to deal with all your problems/But part of the deal/Is for you to feel something.'' It was all quite delicate - artful chamber-pop, sensitive music with a charming insouciance and some lyrical weight. The edge, if you can find it, comes from Murdoch's sly lyrics, which recall those of Morrissey. Sample song title: ``Is It Wicked Not to Care?'' Sample couplet: ``Everyone is trying to make it/In this century of fakers.'' A problem, though: Murdoch's vocals are so hushed, they're often lost in the mix, even though the instrumentation is also subdued. Another nagging bit: Belle and Sebastian occasionally veer into a too-precious realm. There were numerous awkward gaps between songs as the band made adjustments and talked among themselves. Cute at first, annoying later. There were stretches when you thought they'd achieved the ultimate in gentle and lilting, and then they'd top themselves. (Hey, how about a xylophone or a recorder? OK!) Only two songs, ``A Spaceboy Dream'' and the set-closing ``Sleep the Clock Around,'' brought some noise. Mostly, Belle and Sebastian are about modest pleasures. Containe, a quintet fronted by singer-guitarist-bassists Connie Lovatt and Fontaine Toups (with Yo La Tengo's Georgia Hubley on drums), were just too lukewarm and even-keel during their opening set. Their folk rock wafted past like a low-key summer breeze. This story ran on page D09 of the Boston Globe on 10/23/98. © Copyright 1998 Globe Newspaper Company. article: http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe/globehtml/296/Cult_band_from_Glasgow_just_a _littl.shtml +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 17:06:05 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 17:06:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: And my sexy reputation won't let me down Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E222DAEA9@server1.HITEntertainment.com> I'm sorry I'm so behind, but 100 posts in one day? What the Isobel's going on? Tag's juxtaposition of Long-player sex and Christina Ricci has left me in need of a lie down (as in "down, boy!"), which has been exacerbated by the fact that the very spit of Gerry Adams (with just a *touch* of Barry Gibb - must be the aviators) has just stepped into the office and stared at me. Symposium are, indeed, shit. But not as bad as Embrace. But we've been here before... So...any fashion advice for when I go on my insane shopping spree in New York? I need a jacket, some shoes, a big cosy jumper, but I don't feel sure of what to get. I do own a pair of flares now, so I'm half way to being a walking cliche - I need counsel on cardies...I'm serious about this... Making love with B&S on is the only way to go. The disadvantage is you are likely to find the heavenly melodies and wistful lyrics more interesting than the hormone-soaked, panting mass of electric passion beneath (or above, or behind, etc. etc.) you, and find yourself dreamily singing along and getting quite put off your stroke. Actually, this is untrue. Just find a lover who's as obsessed with the Sebastians as you are, and then reach a stunning, pulsating climax during your favourite song, and you'll never be happier... Suede are also good to roll around to, as long as you don't take some of their more disturbing exhortations too literally (though "Pantomime Horse" could lead to interesting developments in your love life if you're feeling open minded). And the Spice girls once had an effect on me that I really wouldn't have predicted (and it wasn't even the sublime "2 become 1")... I'm proud to be on a list where people offer up their sisters. If anyone has a thing for tall and broad (polite way of putting it) trainee doctors with a very big heart and a shy way with girls, my brother could be the one for you... The captivating mic controller elevating your act (?), Markxxx p.s. Paul Field, I'm sorry you're bored. You'll be the sorry one tomorrow though, when the Super Dons shit on the Boro :)...(yeah, right - 13/2 you are to win - if I were you I'd go and put your shirt on a red victory). We'll let you know how the meet goes...I've been warming up my flute as we speak (but that's a different story...) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nickdastoor at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 17:35:05 1998 From: nickdastoor at xxx.com (Nick Dastoor) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Encores were made for men, not Belle and Sebastian Message-ID: <19981023163505.18599.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> Reid said: >I don't think that B&S have been playing ANY encores. Which I think is >GREAT. I'm so sick of encores. The band walks off the stage, goes back >to have a drink and an a 30-second rest, while we're supposed to stay >packed in like sardines clapping and cheering to show our great >appreciation and then pretend that we called them back for an encore?! >I'm thrilled that they're not playing any encores. Just another entry >into the file of "Reasons to Love Belle and Sebastian." Yes. Encores are rubbish. However, didn't they do an encore on their Paris Black Session show? It certainly sounds like 'Slap your Cock Around' was played after some goading. "We don't know any other songs," claimed a half-wit band member, before remembering one. Incidentally, a kind man taped me the Satanic Session, and a very nice recording it is too. *BUT* it does sound like it's being played at the wrong speed. Has anyone else noticed this? Not only do all the songs sound like they're being played too fast, but the voices sound very squeaky. Now I've never heard Stuart David sing before, but I can't believe he sounds that silly. Can anyone verify this? Does 'Paper Boat' make anyone else hold their nose and pull the chain? Are those lyrics crap on purpose? Am I missing some big joke? Nice breezy tune though. FAX ME corner: Does anyone know the exact date of the two Mark Radcliffe sessions? I want to put it on my tape inlay because I am like to hold my P!O!O! in as long as possible. A FAQ from Katrina long ago said the first one was in July 96, but that's all it says. And Keith's FAQ is all vague and bearing in mind that he says that the first one was "around September 1996" I'm inclined not to trust him anyway. Unless Katrina's not to be trusted, a thought I cannot countenance without my whole world-view collapsing. Nick xxx _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mgilham at xxx.edu Fri Oct 23 18:06:25 1998 From: mgilham at xxx.edu (Michael H Gilham) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:06:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Friday's Bill! In-Reply-To: <199810231426.KAA25670@red.seas.upenn.edu> Message-ID: Greetings all! I'm back after a long hiatus -- not that I expect anyone to remember's me from my first residence on here ;-) ... I figured, the eve of the Philly gig, which I'm getting set to go up to [from Washington] would be a good time to have another go on the list i.e. see if I can handle the mail vol. this time! ;-D Well I'm quite looking forward to it! Hope to see some of ya from the area there -- feel free to let me know if y'all are meeting up in a particular place [other than at the party going on] ... I urge everyone to ignore -- or, at least, take w/ a grain of salt -- Matthew's appraisal of CINERAMA and arrive in time to catch them. They should be going on by 9 .... > | Amazing. Three digests are waiting in my mailbox this morning and not > | ONE description of the Philly show. I just think it's interesting is > | all, considering how many reviews we got of the Boston show (which is > | great...keep 'em coming). > > now that i have wiped up the small yellowish puddle that developed > around my feet after reading this, i can tell you, sir, that in fact > the show is today, hence no reviews. unless someone wants to post a > review of a concert that hasn't happened yet. has that been done? i > to answer my own question of yesterday, i picked up the cinerama > album, and i must say, it is horrible. something something humble > opinion something something. but yes, really bad. ah, the eternal > question -- get there early to secure a spot near the stage, or > late to avoid the horror of david gedge? "Horrible"? The "horror of David Gedge"? What could be so horrible about David? Really, these sorts of feelings would be better left out; because, personally, I think the VA VA VOOM is great; and Gedge is brilliant! :-) love & see ya at the Trocadero, --Michael "... now I know that it was you all the time how could I ever think it wasn't true ..." --Cinerama +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Fri Oct 23 18:12:15 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:12:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: RE: sinister-digest V2 #429 In-Reply-To: <199810222243.XAA25273@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000201bdfea8$48347480$050a93c3@whelan> Hi All, The Fluffyone wrote... "Peter wrote: >My friend Sarah wrote that, no doubt gurning at the same >time, just like JO DUNNE and her trademark star-shaped >sunglasses from We've Got a Fuzzbox and We're Gonna Use it. >Will I be getting previously unreleased Alarm demos? Who is JO DUNNE? You have called me psycho in heavenly creatures and no JO DUNNE. Who is she! I dont know! Grr, I can gurn well I supose. But not as well as people in Cornwall, like Adrian Evans who once shouted at me cos I called Cornwall posh in a moment of JEST, yes, I have a MEMORY for people who call me nasty names, watch out!!! Alarm demos? Now theres an idea...speaking of which:" Silly girl, Mr Miller told you who she was, she was in Fuzzbox. Sadly I have no Alarm demos, maybe if I did though, half my Welsh CD collection would be were it should be and I'd be able to finish off tapes I'm supposed to be sending to people. 87) Then the Fluffster wrote... "Gary, (EX!!) El hombre Del mullet and ex-Alarm afficiando wrote:" You know damn well I'm an EX!!!!! El hombre Del mullet of many years standing. It was a mistake, how much longer do I have to pay for it.... Damon Grant's got a lot to answer for. 87) Then she wrote... "Gary quien hablas grandes cojones y quien voy a matar cuando viene la fin de semana escribó: >I think there's a couple at least isn't there ?. Also PJ and Duncan speaks >Spanish do you not Mr Miller, so does Fluffy, well she claims to, but it's >just broken English in a bad Lancashire accent. >Oh boy am I dead. 87) HA, I speak better Spanish than you CULO DE PAUL WELLER. You're strolling for a disembowelling there my young chap. Hablo un poco de espanol curioso [gracias Alberto :) tu ingles es mas mejor que mi espanol!! :)] " CULO DE PAUL WELLER, I have no idea what that means, but it doesn't sound good. I demand satisfaction. Why do I get the feeling that your not calling me sweet and loverly names here ?. 87) Well seeing as the only Spanish I know, was learnt from repeats of Fawlty Towers, I dare say you do speak better Spanish than me, but then I never said I could speak Spanish. - Gary +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sandrad at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 18:29:27 1998 From: sandrad at xxx.com (Sandra Duric) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:29:27 -0400 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981023132927.00929d60@mail.accu-staff.com> unsubscribe_sinister Sandra Duric IT Recruitment & Account Manager +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Fri Oct 23 18:34:14 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:34:14 +0100 Subject: Sinister: misc. References: Message-ID: <3630BE16.9D47915F@jeepster.co.uk> Hi everyone, with regards to t-shirt sales in the states all three designs will be on sale eventually. It took us forever to find a company in the states who could sell the merchandise on our behalf and by the time we got the films etc. to them they only had about 5 days to actually produce the shirts! so, the white with blue and silver print TBWTAS shirts will be on sale shortly it's just a timing thing ... oops! as far as we know, all three t-shirts will be available in all three sizes (s,m&l) ASAP. If the one you want is not at the gig then mail David on mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk or check the jeepster web-site where you can mail order all the b&s merchandise including mugs, badges, posters etc. etc. etc. hope this helps. cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Fri Oct 23 18:40:43 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:40:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: "I could be a goth on a bouncey castle." In-Reply-To: <199810231011.LAA15027@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000601bdfeac$4263aae0$050a93c3@whelan> Adrian "Alan Wilkie" Evans wrote.... "The Boy Done again was wittering with someone about : The LAnt jackets i remember were kinda beigey "blouson" style jackets with cheesey tartan linings, zip-up pockets and elasticated wrists I had a black blouson style thing with said cheesey lining otherwise known as a Harrington I believe. I also had said Parka. Anyone who hasn't owned one of these top eighties eskimo fashionwear items has never experienced pain. Remember those cold winter mornings ? Mother passes you your packed lunch with your bag of Wotsits, looks at you and says..."You'll catch the death of cold like that". Grabs the zip (which at this point is probably ooh say collar height but has a good seven or eight inches leeway), and yanks it up to full eskimo setting, the zip catching the fleshy bit under the chin.....OUCH I SAY." Thank you very much you sadistic bastard. I'd quite happily forgotten about that. Still, when it got really cold, a balaklava (or however you spell that) kept you safe and sound from chin chaffing. "Gary continued : I felt sorry for Big Daddy's tag team partner, cos they always had to have the crap beaten out of them for ten minutes, then somehow crawl over to the corner to tag BD before he kicked the shit out of the opponent. They do all the hard work, then he waltz's in a takes the glory. Doesn't seem fair to me. THAT WAS ME !!! And you're right it wasn't fair. I went to the wrestlers union about it, but all they said was "It's Big Daddy innit ? What can we do ? out hands are tied..The guys bigger than the sport itself innit ?" I considered changing tag partners to Paddy Roache, but he said he was leaving wrestling as he'd got a part in Auf Weidershen Pet as the bloke who never said much." So Big Daddy was a bit of a pima dona then ?. He always struck me as being like that, I hear that Giant Haystacks was a right lovey as well. While were on the subject, my dad played golf with Mick Macmanus in some charity golf do years ago.... and Harry Cross from Brookie as well, sadly without Jegsy Dodd though. Well, still no smut content from me, I'm trying my best, I just can't come up with any. 87) - Johnny Quango +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 19:11:27 1998 From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 19:11:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: So when the night falls, my lonely heart calls, Message-ID: <011601bdfeb0$8d555180$4429c22b@bond.broadcast> Kevan first suggested >Isaac Hayes ...followed by the William Tell overture. >Then Michael (me) wrote... > >Lets Get It On...Ode to Joy ...1812 Overture Neil suggested >Moon Safari, by Air. Well, yes, but I think Kevan and I were going for a different kind of atmosphere. Spoon Safari is probably great for long, languid, hot-summers nights under a mosquitto net in colonial Africa kind of shag, whereas our suggestions are much more 18 year old slapper, cheesy disco, 1970's kind of affairs. One thing we both failed to mention is that in order for the effect to work properly you have to look sideways and pull various facial expressions, Robin Askwith style, at key moments. This works especially well if you play the William Tell Overture at 45 rather than 33 (and if you have a record deck that can play at 78...). Siete così skinny perché l' unico alimento che mangiate è i marinai dalla squadra di gioco del calcio dei rangers Whoops. I pasted that in by mistake, but since other people are putting in foreign language bits I'll leave it in. >hey, this is miss grumpy, i-hate-athens girl. Thats what I meant to paste. I haven't been paying attention to the US gig details, but it had been puzzling me why they were playing a gig in Greece after America. I feel a bit silly now. Michael McMichael was asking >Hm...I was trying to pick a B&S song that sounds wintry. Someone suggested Modern Rock Song, which I'd have to agree with, but what about The Boy Done Wrong Again as well? And just for that moment when the big fat (and I don't mean American) flakes start to fall, the album version of Slap Your Cock Around ((C)Nick). I can imagine that electronic-ruler-boing kind of effect at the start would sound great walking home in street-lit snow. Ooh! I wanna dance with somebody, Michael (now depressed 'cause it doesn't snow in Reading like it did in Glasgow) PS. Sorry to any Italians reading this. That bit was automatically translated by a computer, so I have no idea whether it actually makes any sense in Italian. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Blur245 at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 19:22:41 1998 From: Blur245 at xxx.com (Blur245 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:22:41 EDT Subject: Sinister: The Return Of Athens Message-ID: Hi Fellow Listees I first wanted to add the Athens meet up should be at a bar,resturants are a little less sociable (ever tried talking with your mouth full).I heard someone mentioning some where called the Engine Room?.I know alot of people making the long road trip up from Florida and are willing to meet up.Any good suggestions of a good,cheap hotel.Also I know this is a long shot but my friend is looking for a ride back to Orlando that night and is willing to pay gas money any takers. Thanks....................... ....... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Fri Oct 23 19:22:39 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (Jake) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 19:22:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: And let the taping commence Message-ID: <199810231830.TAA03748@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Hi there all of you, I just thought that I'd say that I've got my copy of the black session (Many thanks Philippe) and I'll start taping it for all of you whose tapes I've recieved, on a strictly first come first taped basis, with the exception of those who have sent me FizzWiz (you both know who you are) Thanks Jake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carrick44 at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 19:49:40 1998 From: carrick44 at xxx.com (Carrick C Blair) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:49:40 EDT Subject: Sinister: They made us forget our dreams Message-ID: <19981023.130613.4591.2.carrick44@juno.com> Once upon a time in the far away land of Boston lived a young caligraphy major named Larissa. Her fondest pen pal, Shilough, from Pensylvania, greeted her with the wonderful news that Belle and Sebastian were comming to visit. And he was, too. Larissa went looking for tickets. She finally found them in a cold dark attic where a swarthy and sinister character dealt in dreams, and also tickets. Carrick came from Connecticut with Mr. Todd. Shilough was living for the week on a fire escape with a few blankets and a stack of books, subsisting on bread and wine ('95 Chateau Guibon Bordeaux) and counting shooting stars ( two ). Wednesday evening, Larissa, tickets in hand, climbed the fire escape in her go-go boots to join the merry men on this merry evening. We departed on the windy walk to Commonwealth Avenue, all the way, wondering who we would be able to share our extra ticket with. A pair of very grateful lads accepted the ticket at cost (we're really nice people). While Todd was waiting in the out-of-towner credit card line, we proceeded to look for seats. Being the laid back, jaded concert goers we are we hadn't bothered to show up till the start of the show. We opted for the church pews in the balcony, since all the good seats were taken, and since none of us frequent the halls of Babylon the Great. The churchy feeling was quaint, and rather disorienting since it appeared that the auditorium doubled as a synagogue. We sat mildly amused watching the opening act, Containe, somewhat restless for the fact that we saw no well stocked bar in view. About half way through the set, Carrick started looking at his watch, wondering if we had enough time to skip out for a quick pint. Not wanting to appear rude, Carrick didn't voice his thoughts till after Containe finished. When the suggestion was voiced, nall nodded in agreement, and off we went. We found what appeared to be a lovely little pub down the street called Cornwalls, yet were turned out onto the street, since Larissa did not meet some requirement for sitting in their drinking establishment. Silly town. So we were forced to buy alchohol from the old man next door. And we wandered the streets with our brown bag of cider, and wee drams of Jameson's, trying to look discreet and avoid the unwanted solictations of various dodgy looking characters requesting donations for various "charities". We were forced to abandon the cider to avoid any trouble with the lone constable waiting out front. Back to the show, greatly refreshed, we settle back in our pews just in time for the sermon to begin. We sat in rapt attention as the band took the stage, Stevie looking quite dandified with his Edwardian velvet coat and Isabelle, adorable in her crinoline and starched skirt and mary janes. We expected her to start singing Edelweiss, but no, the set began simply. With Simple Things, in fact. Carrick and Todd each got quite emotional during the rendition of Beautiful, for various unrelated reasons. At one point, Carrick decided to get a closer look at the band and situated himself right above the band stage left, or was it right? Anyway, his timing for his move was impeccable since he was one of the few people who had a view of Stuart during his keyboard playing set of songs. Unfortunately the price paid for a good view was that sound was rather pishy. Drums seeming to be louder than anything else. The others benifited from a more obstructed view but a nicer sound. Stuart was the top. He was the Colosseum, the Louvre musuem, and when he sang, he was cellophane, he was chirpy chirpy tweet tweet, the bee's knees (two lumps please!), a turtledove was heard in the land, there were angels dining at the Ritz, and a nightengale sang in Kenmore Square. The show went on. Behold! it was very good. We walked out a side door, thinking ourselves very wise, convinced we were going to get back stage and engage our heroes in a bit of conversation. We wondered around outside thinking up all sorts of elaborate schemes to get back inside. "Look a door!", said Shilough. We approached the door cautiously, the knob turned, and we were in. To be instantly greeted by Stevie Jackson, who mistook us for friends of friends. When we corrected his mistake, he was still happy to chat with us. After commenting on the Yellow Submarine/Paul McCartney pin which Stevie wore on his jacket lapel, we embarked on a lovely conversation about Beatles' movies. Stevie said the dialogue in A Hard Day's Night was "pure poetry". And he and Shilough quoted their favorite lines. ("I'll bet she would be a great swimmer") ("She's a drag, a well known drag") We offered him a night out on the town, but he courteously declined. We next noticed Stuart Murdoch chatting up some lady friends, and wandered over to introduce ourselves. We had a chat about C.S. Lewis, recording techniques, the Tetragrammaton, and the frequency in which they play in Jewish places of worship. We had felt that we had kept him from his lady friends long enough and bid him farewell. We told him our names, and he replied that someone should write a book about us, or in the very least we should form a gang. We finally left for good, in search of a friendlier pub in which we would be welcome with open arms, and eventually returned to our abode on the fire escape. As we watched Larissa disappear into the cold dark autumn air, the rest of us found some solace in the Scottish whiskey that Todd had thoughtfully brought along to keep us warm. That's the story of our first night with Belle and Sebastian. (Carrick's second) Sorry about the silly story from last night. We had just finished off our last bottle of 1995 Chateau Guibon and thought of revolution was in our hearts. "This is the disciple which testefieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true." "And there are also many other things which Belle and Sebastian did, which if they should be written everyone, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written." Yours truly, Carrick Fox in the Snow Larissa We Rule the School Shilough Boy Done Wrong Again Todd (who unfortunately is off in New Jersey presently enjoying the company of Jenna. Beautiful, only tempermental) ________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Fri Oct 23 20:00:11 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 20:00:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: jeepster-news: acid house / slow graffiti Message-ID: <3630D23B.4702E7AE@jeepster.co.uk> hiya all following the message a few days ago about the soundtrack to the motion picture 'the acid house', this is just to let you know that we've put the details on the web site and have also uploaded 2 minutes of the song 'slow graffiti' in the liquid audio player. so if you have the liquid audio player it's there for you now, if not then follow the link from the site to download the player. cheers david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn ----------------------------------------------------------------------- .this message came from the jeepster records news list . .visit our site at http://www.jeepster.co.uk for more info . . . .to unsubscribe yourself from this list send a message to . .majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'unsubscribe news' in the body. .of the message . . . .any problems? then simply send a mailto:owner-news at jeepster.co.uk . ----------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Fri Oct 23 21:20:07 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 21:20:07 Subject: Sinister: Encores were made for men, not Belle and Sebastian Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981023212007.340f0ce6@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Dick asked : >Yes. Encores are rubbish. However, didn't they do an encore on their >Paris Black Session show? It certainly sounds like 'Slap your Cock >Around' was played after some goading. "We don't know any other >songs," claimed a half-wit band member, before remembering one. > It was not a encore. In the audience, we were afraid that I Dont Love Anyone would be the very last song, because it was nearly 10.30pm, which is the end of the show. But the band was just staying on stage, Stevie was moving to the piano, and they played the last song, Sleep the clock around. I will always remember Stuart coming behind Stevie and kicking Stevie's buttock's for him to start playing piano in a boogie woogie style at the end of the song. Do you know that "encore" is a french word? It means "again". But we never say "encore" in french, we say "rappel". +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sweaters at xxx.net Fri Oct 23 21:44:34 1998 From: sweaters at xxx.net (Butch Sweaters himself) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 16:44:34 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Philadelphia Sold Out Message-ID: <3630EAB1.A0D59143@dca.net> Yes, the philadelphia show has not yet actually occurred, so that's why there aren't any reviews yet. It's just 4 hours away now. However, I did just find out that it has sold out, which is significant because the venue (The Trocadero, which was a burlesque house frequented by my grandfather at the beginning of the century) holds twice as many people (1,200) as the second largest club on this tour. I can't imagine what 1,200 B&S fans look like, but I guess I'm about to find out. I have never heard Cinerama, but I too have heard that they "suck" (to paraphrase someone else). Those of you in Chicago are really lucky- Momus/B&S is going to be amazing. I saw him here in Phila. on Tuesday and he was really good. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seaborne at xxx.nl Fri Oct 23 22:56:44 1998 From: seaborne at xxx.nl (Koen) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 22:56:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: September is quite far away Message-ID: <005701bdfed0$07059160$70866dc2@computer> Hello Sinisterees, no B&S content whatsoever. I participate in a weekly internet music quiz (it's in Dutch, but I'm willing to translate the questions for anyone interested), and this week an intro has me stumped. It's question #11 on this page: http://users.skynet.be/volders/kwis0508.htm While you're at it, if you know who the person is in question 10/ photo 2, let me now. I have an idea who it might be, but confirmation would be appreciated. Oh, email me privately, I feel ashamed enough already by misusing this beautiful list. Koen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TWidmer at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 22:15:53 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:15:53 -0700 Subject: Sinister: *sigh* twee is SOOO last season! Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF032E0ED5@amerwksnt01.xil.com> Someone wrote: <> and anotherperson said: <> um, people are always writing in about Isobel looking miserable /annoyed/disdainful during shows. Well not *always* writing in, but just play along with me for now. Maybe she is just nervous, or has to go pee but can't leave the stage? Maybe because they won't let her dance. Maybe she hates touring. Or maybe she's a spoilsport misanthrope. They should get her one of those lightbox thingies. <<``Everyone is trying to make it/In this century of fakers.''>> I kind of prefer that to the original lyrics. << So...any fashion advice for when I go on my insane shopping spree in New York?>> other than save your money? oh dear, there's better fashion to be found where you are! Clothes here may be cheaper, but there's a reason for that... <> I've always found the Gap reliable for those basic bit and bobs and they strike the nice balance between nerd and chic. Not to mention everything there goes on sale 3 days after it hits the shelves. Surely this is all a mistake though...B&S fans aren't all really that sartorially... predictable, right? Though I am loathe to admit to having recently purchased a pair of ... pedal pushers. I felt somewhat guilty, having heartily supported whoever's claim (FluffySarah?) that they are the slacks of "evil"....(perhaps not vocally supported on the list, but in spirit anyway)... whaddaya know, they aren't that bad, after all. <> "Mama" bring tears to my eyes each time too, Mark.;-) BTW, Have a fantabulous trip to New York! hopefully the East Coast Sinister contingent will treat you fabulously and you'll come away with your newfound respect for Americans still intact, hehe. gucci pucci prada, ta, tara +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 23:01:39 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 22:01:39 GMT Subject: Sinister: chaud lapin Message-ID: <3630f31d.15751932@post.demon.co.uk> Good evening Sinister, I'm watching Eurotrash. One last time before I leave the continent. There's a German talking about his sex piano. His name is Schroder, like the pianist on Peanuts. Did he have a sex piano? The new German chancellor is called Schroder, and my friend Anna. Perverts, the lot of them. Pumpkinny-wumpkinny wrote: >I have a much better penance idea. You would have to hibernate for the >winter wearing only brushed cotton pyjamas, and with only marzipan and >Tunnock's bars to eat. Any takers? Oh go on then, you've twisted my arm. >No one could out-shag Serge, but I could think of a few people who might >take up half of an LP. Coming second after Serge is nothing to sneeze at. Err, what do you mean, a few people? Anyway that doesn't make sense. If you can't outshag Serge, how can you come second? I wrote: >Must go, Christina Ricci is calling. And she was. Myself, the Dandy, Jackson Jeffrey Jackson had the first outing of the sinister sinema club, and we invited Emma and Julian too. It was "Buffalo 66", and we all liked it very much. It was original and it was romantic, although at least two of our party seemed quite upset when they cut one scene just as Christina was getting out of the bath. Later, we went to the toilet. Well, a bar that used to be a toilet. The DJ thought he was very soulful indeed. We just thought he was funny. He was singing along and doing the actions to Melba Moore and Betty Everett. It was like they were in the room. John wrote: >Go on, it in your mouth ...which was more than a little uncalled for. He also talked about Smile. You really should go. I won't be there, I'm afraid, but don't let that put you off. Because it's not a "real" indie club, they don't play Peter and the Test Tube Babies like Doctor Stride, despite the fact that John is "Punk as Fuck". John also said of Elisabeth: >Such a nice, kind girl. Very clean. I hope not or I've wasted my air fare. Finally, Michael called me: >Alex McFerguson How incredibly wide of the mark can one person be? Very, very foolish words. I'm seething in my Blue Moon boxer musical shorts. Finally, Megan's right. Whoever has been dissing Genevieve really does have all of us to answer to. Right, I'm off to Canada. See you in a week, unless I decide to stay there. Love, Tag xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hyslopje at xxx.edu Fri Oct 23 23:11:58 1998 From: hyslopje at xxx.edu (Jeffrey David Hyslop) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:11:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: B&S Chicago Message-ID: <199810232211.SAA39184@pilot010.cl.msu.edu> Hello all, Has anyone out there got an extra ticket for the Belle & Sebastian show in Chicago this coming Monday? I'm driving from Michigan and will do anything for a ticket!! Thanks...Jeff (reply in private) -- ************************************************************************** Jeff Hyslop 911 E. Grand River; Apt 203 Phone: 517-351-7155 East Lansing, MI 48823 E-Mail: hyslopje at pilot.msu.edu ************************************************************************** How would Bobby Peru handle this one? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From BOYBOUTOWN at xxx.com Sat Oct 24 00:18:03 1998 From: BOYBOUTOWN at xxx.com (BOYBOUTOWN at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 19:18:03 EDT Subject: Sinister: BELLE N SEB MOMUS! Message-ID: <141caece.36310eab@aol.com> MOMUS, on Record label LE GRANDE MAGISTERY. MOMUS, ACE! (luvly eyepatch also!) Matthew Jacobson, THE KINK OF POP! For those of you who know what i seem to be babbling on about, cheers!.Ave a fun time in chicago and toronto. Re at dy.Ste@dy.Edd!e. (apologises for lack of appropriate length). +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Sat Oct 24 00:28:25 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 19:28:25 EDT Subject: Sinister: 'I once bit into a mouse's head and found a bar of chocolate.How odd is that?' Message-ID: <2648353a.36311119@aol.com> Hello Bunnies, how are you all then? Really? Arab what? With a metal ring? Well if he's going to talk about such things you'll just have to ignore him. Now I want NO MORE talk of veiny vinces and captain mainwarings, OK? Honestly, you're just like your father. Now go and dig the garden, you smell of Oxo, and your jumpers scare the horse. So you were in london fluffy? You should have said so earlier.Instead of enduring some shite west end show, you could have gone with me to watch the bungee jumpers in battersea shit themselves. It's my new favourite thing. There's nothing more amusing than watching 'lads' dangling inverted over the thames, and watching their smug, pepsi max drinking faces as they realise that the women on the ground whom they were trying to impress are now kissing the crane operators instead. Ha! You sporty bastards! Ha! You're not laughing at my trousers anymore are you? Yes, I'm living in the 'glamorous' capital, which contrary to opinion, *is* in fact open 24 hours, unlike the country town I've escaped, which ceases to exist after 6pm each night, (and at lunchtime on market days.) I've got a lovely flatmate, and a lovely flat, and whenever I want, I can put on a suit, go down to the river bank, and pretend to be Nick Drake. Yay! And tomorrow, me and the others are doing our stars in their eyes thang, and 'jammin' and 'funkin' etc. I'll let you all know how we get on. Erm, Mick McMick: wintery songs....I'd say seeing other people- the ending with the piano going 'plink plinky plonk plonky, plonk plon plonk plon plonk' sounds like snow falling. The whole first half of sinister's a wintery sort of LP, I think. Even if it was recorded in the summer. Go on! admit it. I'm right. All B&S songs are autumnal/wintery, 'cause the sun rarely shines on the hipster... I miss the snow. It makes everything look so romantic, it excuses you for looking at the world through red eyes. Incidentally, I dunno how exciting this proper version of Slow Graffffitti is. It's beautiful of course, but it sounds just like the evening session version, no added bloopy noises or moogoid wibbles or disco beats or anything. I'm starting to worry about this band you know. Just recently they seem to have bought a 'best of Phil Spector' record in woolies and just gone 'great! we'll have that!' prrrbb. It's all good stuff obviously, it's just that my boat's not floating as high as it once did. All I ask is for a dash of Electronic Renaisance, some tinny acoustics for once, some crappy beats...stuart? please? right, see you all soon. Maybe I'll have something to say then... :-) byebye seb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------- ''...and I came upstairs, and you were still up, and l said 'the man next door's got a horse in his flat!' And you said 'you're drunk', and I said I hope so, 'cause the man next door's got a horse in his flat, and I don't like it much'. And then I fell asleep, and I dreamt of palaces, with walls of green glass...'' 'Shipley', Animals that Swim- (Electronic Renaissance with horns) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Sat Oct 24 01:23:08 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 20:23:08 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Seasonal B&S, Depressed "Hipsters," etc. Message-ID: <36311DEC.B1B712E9@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> FunkySeb pens: > All B&S songs are autumnal/wintery, 'cause the sun rarely shines on > the hipster... Hm, no I have to disagree. First of all, quite a number of the new album strikes me as springy, maybe even summery. Especially my favorite song, "Ease Your Feet into the Sea." Another thing I think is that your definition of hipster must be different from mine, because saddoes whose every song is a depressed winter or autumn bore don't strike me as hip in the slightest (um...loo barlough) whereas people who realize there is more to life than cynicism and depression strike me as a bit more hip. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I don't think mine is absolute. And not to say that the occasional sad song is misplaced, but life is not just a string of bad events. You have to be happy sometimes, you know? B&S strike me as the perfect balance. > I miss the snow. It makes everything look so romantic, it excuses you for > looking at the world through red eyes. Hm, I'm with you on that one. I certainly don't miss sticky summer nights. > Incidentally, I dunno how exciting this proper version of Slow > Graffffitti is. It's beautiful of course, but it sounds just like the evening > session version, no added bloopy noises or moogoid wibbles or disco beats or > anything. I haven't heard the liquid audio file, but I dearly love the song. I think if it were meant to be a bleepy bloopy sort of song, they'd have recorded it that way in the session, with keyboards and all the other bits. > I'm starting to worry about this band you know. Just recently they > seem to have bought a 'best of Phil Spector' record in woolies and just gone > 'great! we'll have that!' > prrrbb. It's all good stuff obviously, it's just that my boat's not floating > as high as it once did. All I ask is for a dash of Electronic Renaisance, some > tinny acoustics for once, some crappy beats...stuart? please? "Sleep the Clock Around" seems to me to be the closest we'll get to the sequel to "Electronic Renaissance." I do hope they write some more bloopy songs, Electronic Renaissance is one of my favorites, but if they don't, they don't, and I'll be happy with albums like the last one. Maybe it's a future direction for them to pursue, eh? After their ragtime album, mayhap. /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at oak.cats.ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Sat Oct 24 02:56:57 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 21:56:57 -0400 Subject: Sinister: spin review of twattybus Message-ID: i got the october Spin magazine and there's a decent review of twattybus (the email list is even mentioned!), and since i don't recall it being posted here, i'll do that now. note: stuff in [] are my comments. feel free to ignore them. rated: 8 out of 10 belle and sebastian are wimps and proud of it, so naturally their cardinal vertue is modesty. singer/guitarist stuart murdoch is the closest thing the octet has to a leader, but being singularly modest, he's turned over some of the songwriting and singing to his bandmates on this third album: stuart david's spaceboy dream is of a piece with his recent solo single as looper; isobel campbell sings the twee, breathy is it wicked not to care, and stevie jackson's two contributions reveal a potentially unhealthy fascination with the music biz (one's named after sire records founder seymour stein, the other after the pop zine chickfactor). being pathologically modest, melodist supreme murdoch has left some of his own most striking songs off the album -- the sizable e-mail ilst of belle cultists [!] is aggogle [!] at the omissions. or maybe murdoch's just pathological like a fox. belle ands ebastian have always played hard-to-get, limiting their first album tigermilk to 1,000 (vinyl!) copies and playing in public only a few times a year. murdoch knows full well that hearing one song more than others can get in the way of an album's flow, so even the songs that might naturally walk tall are convinced to slouch a little. the title track (an "arab strap" is a marital aid; Arab Strap is a fellow scottish band) has what could be a big-bump "jean genie"/"everybody wants to rule the world" groove -- but murdoch sings it like he's worried about starting an avalance, and he keeps on swallowing his words even after the band fades out. speak up, boy! arab strap is a more mature album than 1997's if you're feeling sinister, less concerned with just-postadosecent torment, which is to say it's concerned with more mature torment-frustrating erotic fantasies, the sense of too much time passing, the heroine of last year's triumphant "layz line painter jane" single reappearing as an overpaid art-world hack. the hormone-dazed momentum of the earlier records has turned to exquisite stasis, graced with subtle string and horn arrangements. dirty dream #2 disguises its motown beat in a swirl of strings and organ, and though sleep the clock around builds toward what might be a tremendous climax, it's kept in its place by 70s synth chintz and a drum-machine two-step. what comes out of all this self-restraint is a pastoral album whose minor accomplishments add up to a tremendous power when heard as a whole. murdoch and his disciples - as much a chamber music ensemble as a rock band at this point - refuse to do anything in broad strokes, which means nothing here wears out over repeated listenings, but also that you have to lean into the album to get much out of it. listen closely, though, and you'll relish the tiny filigreed details, the unexpected instrumental accents they can pull off only by haing half the group sit out half a song, murdoch's wry turns of phras and flip-flops between intertextual cleverness and heart-on-sleeve honesty. modesty is also a virtue for people who know exactly how good they are. -- douglas wolk there. -kerry "Death has come in the pantry door: stands watching them, iron and patient, with a look that says _try to tickle me_." --Thomas Pynchon, _Gravity's Rainbow_ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sweaters at xxx.net Sat Oct 24 01:04:16 1998 From: sweaters at xxx.net (Butch Sweaters) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 00:04:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Philadelphia: CANCELED Message-ID: <199810240400.AAA11318@postoffice.dca.net> An unbelieveable ending to two months of waiting: Belle and Sebastian cancel tonight's show at Philadelphia's Trocadero, apparently due to Isobel's illness. Here's a short version: Cinerama plays; B&S's equipment get set up, which takes about 45 minutes; about 30 minutes go by with nothing but the Housemartins playing; people start to get gitated; someone with a Scottish accent comes out and says that someone in the band is ill and that she'e been taken to the hospital, but the band will be on shortly, sorry for the delay; another 45 minutes pass and another person, also Scottish (maybe Chris?) comes out and apologizes profusely, saying that the band will not be able to play due to Isobel's illness; someone shouts "JUST ONE SONG!" and he just keeps saying "I'm sorry, I'm sorry , I'm sorry..." and then walks off the stage; the lights come on; everyone is told to leave- get your $ back where you bought your tickets... At this point (midnight EDT, Friday night), I'm too disappointed to describe, but I will say this (which is something I think alot of people will say): Why can't a nine piece band make due with only eight when 1,200 people have been waiting two hours in a club for them to play (and God knows how many months or even years outside of it)??? If Isobel is truly ill, I sincerely hope she gets well. I just don't know if I'll get over this anytime soon. Butch Sweaters THOBS: http://members.dca.net/sweaters/. New and improved. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Taboonmb7 at xxx.com Sat Oct 24 05:01:41 1998 From: Taboonmb7 at xxx.com (Taboonmb7 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 00:01:41 EDT Subject: Sinister: New convertee - off to Toronto tomorrow, a few inquires and comments. Message-ID: <72e0fea4.36315125@aol.com> Hello Sinisteries.. I'm a new convert to Belle & Sebastian. I say this because, to tell the truth, I didn't like them upon *initial* listening... I bought "If You're Feeling Sinister" and thought it sounded like average run-of-the-mill simon & garfunkle pop. keep in mind i was obviously very close minded, and only gave it one listening before forming this opinion.. but after hearing SO much about this band in the recent days I decided to give it another, fully attentative listen. well, nearly 30 spins on the good old Aiwa later, i am addicted. I couldn't believe i didn't see the sophistication and literacy that this band embraces before. The lyrics are intelligable and very well though out, with a style of their own. and the music is just subliminally quiet and beautiful, perfect for any time of the year or day. I have also bought The Boy With The Arab Strap, and i must say i didn't care for it at first, but gave it the same treatment as ...Sinister and now it's among my favorite albums. i love the evolution in the music, many more instruments and a more oceany ambience to it. Well, anyways, enough of my enthusiastic ramblings... enthusiastic because i am traveling a four-hour trek from Flint Michigan (no laughing) to Toronto to catch them at the Opera House! have a hotel booked and everything :) my first question reguards the setlists - how long are they usually on stage? it doesn't really matter, i'm just curious, because i've been to shows like Morrissey who plays for a dismal 45 minutes, and The Cure (my favorite :) ), who play a 3 hour set usually. and how accessable are the band? again, not that i want to hurdle myself backstage just to tell the band "you are the greatest!" or anything lame and predictable like that. i'd like to maybe shake hands, thank them, and perhaps get an autograph or two purely as a momento from a perfect night. this list seems very pleasant in just the few posts i have read - thank you. Belle & Sebastian are a REFRESHING spalsh of pop in this dreary decade. "Sit back and enjoy... The Real McCoy." - Siouxsie & The Banshees, "Monitor." ~james* (but that's entertainment..) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From riot_glam at xxx.com Sat Oct 24 06:31:59 1998 From: riot_glam at xxx.com (farouche la femme) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 22:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: nyc ticket up for grabs Message-ID: <19981024053159.2612.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> hello all, my concertgoing companion has chosen oslo over B&S, so i have an extra nyc ticket for the nov. 1 show. if anyone is interested in buying this off of me, please email me privately with "nyc ticket" in the header (so i don't delete your mail!) merci! k. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Sat Oct 24 06:55:29 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 22:55:29 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Re: Too fast high-pitched session tape Message-ID: <000701bdff13$3f7d9c20$d69fcdcf@brier> Was the squeaky set from the Radio1 session? Mine sounds exactly like you described it. Chipmunk style vocals, very silly and I hardly listen to it because of that. But it was a nice girl that sent it, so I wasn't rude about it. I don't know if the tape it came from was warped, or if I have my cassette player on the wrong speed (I can't find the control for that) but something was wrong. -----Original Message----- From: Nick Dastoor To: sinister at majordomo.net Date: Friday, October 23, 1998 9:39 AM Subject: Sinister: Encores were made for men, not Belle and Sebastian > >Reid said: > >>I don't think that B&S have been playing ANY encores. Which I think is >>GREAT. I'm so sick of encores. The band walks off the stage, goes back >>to have a drink and an a 30-second rest, while we're supposed to stay >>packed in like sardines clapping and cheering to show our great >>appreciation and then pretend that we called them back for an encore?! >>I'm thrilled that they're not playing any encores. Just another entry >>into the file of "Reasons to Love Belle and Sebastian." > >Yes. Encores are rubbish. However, didn't they do an encore on their >Paris Black Session show? It certainly sounds like 'Slap your Cock >Around' was played after some goading. "We don't know any other >songs," claimed a half-wit band member, before remembering one. > >Incidentally, a kind man taped me the Satanic Session, and a very nice >recording it is too. *BUT* it does sound like it's being played at >the wrong speed. Has anyone else noticed this? Not only do all the >songs sound like they're being played too fast, but the voices sound >very squeaky. Now I've never heard Stuart David sing before, but I >can't believe he sounds that silly. Can anyone verify this? > >Does 'Paper Boat' make anyone else hold their nose and pull the chain? >Are those lyrics crap on purpose? Am I missing some big joke? Nice >breezy tune though. > >FAX ME corner: > >Does anyone know the exact date of the two Mark Radcliffe sessions? I >want to put it on my tape inlay because I am like to hold my P!O!O! in >as long as possible. A FAQ from Katrina long ago said the first one >was in July 96, but that's all it says. And Keith's FAQ is all vague >and bearing in mind that he says that the first one was "around >September 1996" I'm inclined not to trust him anyway. Unless >Katrina's not to be trusted, a thought I cannot countenance without my >whole world-view collapsing. > >Nick xxx > > > >_________________________________________________________ > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From moffeaton at xxx.com Sat Oct 24 08:01:51 1998 From: moffeaton at xxx.com (;) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 03:01:51 -0400 Subject: Sinister: philadelphia and the nightmare it hosted Message-ID: <001301bdff1c$3c31b660$8f94accf@default> i just got home, it's near 3 am, we left at 5 pm...... here's the story of four sad kids with a dream: we waited. we planned. we slept in. we worked last saturday to have friday off (but a deadline at work made us go in for a half a day anyway). we bought gas. we drove for two hours. we got food. we drove another hour. we waited outside for two hours. we missed cinerama because of this lame trocadero procedure involving will call tickets. we were happy to get a spot inside unobstructed by tall people, and we learn that the show is cancelled. for the nervous scottish announcer up on stage, i apologize on behalf of that girl standing nearby who shouted "fuck you!!" when you announced that belle and sebastian could not play, emotions were/ are running high and what can you do if your bandmate is sick? i truly hope isobel gets well (or whoever is sick), and i am about to vomit from sadness over driving so far to see so little. all i got out of the evening was a hatred for traffic, some mediocre taco bell, and a nervous hopeful feeling for the dc show a week from now... PLEASE get well soon, if you can't play then, our hearts here in annapolis/ baltimore will break. i have never seen so many sad faces, it was a sea of heartbreak... everyone in line around us had driven from at least two hours away, except that crazed drunken camo-wearing guy who winged his half full 40 oz across traffic, shattering against the curb. this was the thrilling spectacular high point to my evening. sigh. sorry this is a bit fractured, tired and bleary. see you all in a week at the black cat, jason -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From TFertig3 at xxx.com Sat Oct 24 08:04:53 1998 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 03:04:53 EDT Subject: Sinister: bad bad night Message-ID: Hello list, As was already mentioned, the Philadelphia show was cancelled. I think I heard all of Housemartins' songs before wee Chris Geddes came out and told us to go away. He looked so distraught about Isobel (what's happened to her anyway?) that I felt almost guilty for feeling disappointed out of my mind at not seeing B&S. And his "I'm sorry's!" are still echoing horribly in my head! Ohhhh. So, I'd imagine they're not going to be off to Toronto tonight, right? Does this mean the Toronto show will be cancelled as well? Is it sold out or near it in any case? Now I am sick (I was the one blowing my nose on soggy tissues) and my stomach hurts. Does anyone have an extra ticket to the Nov 2 show? I'm off to bed. Bye bye Tami +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DSchanding at xxx.com Sat Oct 24 09:23:59 1998 From: DSchanding at xxx.com (DSchanding at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 04:23:59 EDT Subject: Sinister: athens show Message-ID: if anyone has any information about a cancellation of the Athens show, please let me know....I'm driving over 600 miles to see them (from Lex, KY) and it would be too terribly disappointing to hear that they cancelled. Please let me know....thanks. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From goon_koch at xxx.com Sat Oct 24 09:44:38 1998 From: goon_koch at xxx.com (Goon Koch) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 01:44:38 PDT Subject: Sinister: philadelphia debacle Message-ID: <19981024084440.23258.qmail@hotmail.com> dear friends, i'm here to share a little bit about what happened in philly and how it was terribly sad, but not a complete disaster. for me, anyway. forgive me if this is not too coherent. i'm valiantly trying to finish off all the beers left in my cooler . . . first off, i'm very grateful that i only had to drive about an hour to the troc. my heart really goes out to all of you who embarked on the pilgrimage from distant parts. cinerama were ok. they were still soundchecking when the doors opened and it was a sorry sight to see, somehow. for the first time ever i looked up at the stage and said to myself "these guys are too old to be doing this." but david can still unleash the occasional weddoes triple-time riff. occasionally. that's really all i expect from an opener, not to mention a band doing its second gig ever. ok, so cinerama wraps up at nine forty-five, or therabouts. belle and sebastian's stuff is set up and we wait. this is expected. i tremble with anticipppppation. there are some sloppy-drunk assholes at one end of the balcony. one of them pours beer over his head. what a genius. at the other end are two guys in pressed shirts with yuppie beards that i saw cutting in line earlier. one of them rises, leans over the balcony and points demonstratively at his watch. i have the very un-cardie impulse to disfigure him permanently. at about ten twenty, a bespectacled unruly-haired, lanky gentleman with scottish accent says something to the effect of "a band member has taken ill and has been taken to the hospital. as we speak, the band is trying to figure something out." i'm thinking, "there were those who said isobel did not look well in boston. shit. what's to figure out? either they play without her, or they don't play at all. oh shit." in retrospect, the band was probably trying to resolve contractual issues. at about ten fifty, chris geddes strides onto the stage and stands at the center microphone. his announcement: "isobel is ill. she's in the hospital. we were hoping she would return in time to do the gig, but she couldn't make it. we would like nothing better than to play. we came here for no other reason than to do these gigs. i sympathise with those of you who traveled long distances to be here. i'm sorry . . ." after i've had some sleep, i will email the band with an apology for the reaction of the crowd. thank you, chris for making the announcement yourself, and not sending a roadie or something. i wanted to give you a hug, but an arrest wasn't really a suitable conclusion to this evening either. i don't really understand why the band could not play the set, but i also don't know what happened with isobel. i sincerely hope she gets well soon. we have to respect the band's decision. if they had played, their minds would surely have been elsewhere. but the evening was not a total loss because i finally got to meet some fellow sinisterites. we all headed for julie's house, blasted "tigermilk" and drowned our sorrows in the proverbial pint or seven. there were also unspeakable mutations of several mr. potato heads. and the cutest, elastic, weightless kitten prancing about. i think a wonderful night of commiseration was had by all. i got to meet sweet emily who was in boston, was planning on DC and has tickets for both new york shows. wow. also in attendance: lovely jess foxinasnow who managed to snag the very last blue shirt. in her size, no less. (i bought three. hate me. they're gifts.) my deepest empathy goes to the wonderful gentleman from wheeling, west virginia. happy trails. you invested (and deserved) more than i. i didn't really catch everybody's name, but i enjoyed your company. there's a lot more to gigs than just seeing the band play. you prepare the day before. you lay out your clothes and arrange everything so you can leave as soon as you possibly can. you get to wait in line and anticipate with like-minded folk. i've learned to regard the lower back cramps you get waiting the headlining act as the highest level of ecstasy. the post-ungig party was a wonderful event. so how can i say the evening was disappointing? what about the rest of the tour? we're all waiting with baited breath. i have tickets to the 11/2 nyc show. i don't see how the toronto show can proceed. i'm worried that the band is so traumatized by this mess that they'll never tour again. say it ain't so . . . addendum: the troc is a wonderful space, but their logistics suck. they're abysmal. i'm ashamed to live here. this happened at the elliott smith show, but i thought they would have learned their lesson. why can't they dispense will call tickets before the show. there is no reason for people to not be admitted until ten pm for an eight pm show. it's an outrage, frankly. people flew into philly, had legitimate ticket reservations and did not see a minute of live music. it's truly reprehensible. fuck you, troc. you have a great place, but you're morons. why should we bother? and that's not even talking about the refund situation. we understand that this is an unfortunate situation that nobody wanted, but they have to have a proper procedure in place. there are people who paid cash at authorized ticket outlets and received a voucher. this voucher was confiscated at venue entry, and their legitimate owners have no proof of ticket purchase. for me, $12.50 is not worth a trip to philly which is what's required for the cash refund. this sucks. shit. there's still beer left. anybody want to teach me how to "shotgun" a can? belle and sebastian don't have any songs sad enough for this situation. i'm listening to tindersticks. (they've never canceled on me, but i've canceled on them . . .) hope you're ok, isobel. love you all, -g. k.- ". . .now it's hanging around in the clouds, and i've lost it; i was cheated." -tindersticks- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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Message-ID: <3631D2C9.865C6CA7@bignet.net> does anyone have any idea how i might find out if the show in toronto is going to happen or not? i am near detroi and have no desire to drive to toronto only to find out the show has been cancelled. i have tried calling the venue but no answer, and i am due to meet friends there a few hours before the show. grrrr!!! keith +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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Message-ID: heya i take it they (they being katrina or david or some nice soul) will tell us for sure if any of the upcoming shows have been cancelled right? ive spent this last week trying to finish a project and 2 essays so i can hand them in early since i will be missing classes on wednesday to go to athens...its about a 450mile trek...so it would be nice to know before going all the way up there for no show..sure, it would be nice to meet other fans but..... take care roberta **oh you look so tired + "Rock'n'roll is the most brutal, mouth slack and wide + ugly, vicious form of expression - ill-housed and ill-advised + sly, lewd, in fact plain dirty..a your face is as mean as + rancid-smelling aphrodisiac..the your life has been + martial music of every delinquent crash into my arms + on the face of the earth..." i want you****** + -'jack the ripper' (morrissey) + -Frank Sinatra 1957 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Blissxo at xxx.com Sat Oct 24 15:10:08 1998 From: Blissxo at xxx.com (Blissxo at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 10:10:08 EDT Subject: Sinister: is toronto on? help! Message-ID: <931a97d1.3631dfc0@aol.com> hi all, it's not like i'm travelling a huge distance or anything and need to find out early, but i was wondering if anyone has heard boo about the toronto show tonight. does anyone know what's happened to isobel? poor girl, i hope she's feeling okay and can make the toronto show, if she can't i'm going to apologise in advance for people i know who are going to shout things at the stage. just get well soon, and hopefully the band won't use up all their money on terribly expensive american medical care. they should try and get at least over the canadian border, because hospital care is cheaper here. i do hope somebody has sent flowers to sweet isobel. anticipatorily, jessica ps. if anyone has late-breaking news, feel free to call me. it's (416) 438-0858. don't be alarmed at my mother, she doesn't bite. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Sat Oct 24 15:33:19 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 16:33:19 +0200 Subject: Sinister: The Show Must Go On! Message-ID: <01bdff5b$3f6da8e0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Mixed feelings this morning. On the one hand we have the welcome return of FlappySeb and his FunkyFlares, but on the other hand we have the sad news that Isobel is poorly. Hopefully it's nothing that a few plates of bangers and mash won't put right, but at any rate I think Philadelphia listees should go to the hospital and hold a sinister candlelit vigil. Whoops, I meant Sinister candlelit vigil! Silly me! As for the cancelled performance, I daresay one or more memebrs of the band had to accompany Isobel to the hospital, because otherwise it would be scarey for her. I'm just speculating, of course, but the thought may help grumpy people feel a little less grumpy. Mark Lanegan is a boring bastard. The only thing I can say in his favour is that he looks a bit like Spudgun from "Bottom", only without the charisma. Mike Johnson treated us to some acoustic numbers. He did 4, 27, 6 and an epic 4756. That was a little joke to try and make it seem interesting. >From what I could gather from the lyrics, both Lanegan and Johnson are in considerable emotional pain. I'm not bloody surprised, if I was their bird, I'd bugger off as well. The bass player used to be in Soundgarden, so I spent most of the evening estimating the size of his bank balance. It was that good. Claire, I've done your tape. It is mercifully free of Mark Lanegan, but I suspect it won't beat the Divine Experience after all. Nevertheless, there was a picture of Norman Cook manning the wheels of steel in the paper yesterday, and he does indeed look almost exactly the same as Mr Symington! I'll stick it on the cover of your tape, Claire. I need your address though. Right then, I'll had away and shite, Peter PS: Warrander John, don't worry about saying "poofter", we say it all the time, it's more or less obligatory round here. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From m.wimbury at xxx.uk Sat Oct 24 16:07:25 1998 From: m.wimbury at xxx.uk (MATTHEW WIMBURY) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 16:07:25 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Arab Strap Message-ID: <199810241507.QAA20251@unixa.lancs.ac.uk> Voila my first post to the list of a non Belle And Sebastian nature. I just wondered if anyone could give me an Arab Strap discography briefly? I've got the Philophobia album and the brilliant Afternoon Soaps single and I wanna know what else they've done before, as i know there's been another album or two but i don't know the names or how easy they are to get hold of. Thanks a lot. Matt "boo to the business world..." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbgustat at xxx.net Sat Oct 24 18:10:01 1998 From: mbgustat at xxx.net (Mike Gustat) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 13:10:01 -0400 Subject: Sinister: From a Sad Boy named Franco. Message-ID: <01bdff71$22ebada0$LocalHost@oemcomputer> Ok, how do you start? It is hard not to be selfish at a time like this. Ofcourse, one HOPES for ISOBELS'S HEALTH, but let it be known that Belle and Sebastian made the city of Philly awfully sick as well last night. LOOK, I already acknowledge Belle and Sebastian as the "most important music ever", which is why I was shocked, hurt, and surprised that they didn't care about us. I thought these people would understand the power they possess and how that POWER can make too many people want to jump behind a reversing bus. F*ck the $12.50! Couldn't Stuart find a guitar? Spending a considerable amount of $$$ DURING RENT WEEK for absolute SHYTE is a kick in the teeth. STRIKE ONE, Belle and Sebastian, STRIKE ONE. Can I describe my feelings? I didn't think I'd have to. I won't be listing to B&S to help me through this. So, one band member can't make it...is it wicked not to care? The wee sweet celloist is in my thoughts...I truly hope she is not bearing the brunt of a city in pain. Get better sweetie...I'll blow a kiss in NYC! - Franco in NYC, dictating via telephone on a Saturday afternoon. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tton at xxx.edu Sat Oct 24 18:14:21 1998 From: tton at xxx.edu (THAIAN N TON) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 13:14:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: I'll settle down with some old story .. Message-ID: Hello beautiful listees, here is a sad ink polaroid from last night's philadelphia non=gig. here i am shivering in the cold cos i am a cardigan wearing girl, and i'm cold, cold, cold, cos we've driven 2.5 hours from baltimore with high hopes of B&S and we've been playing all B&S for the whole way loud and clear. i'm singing judy & the dream of horses, i'm blowing my nose, i'm thinking how long it's going to take to get to the beginning of the line cos we were even in the queue around the block from the troc. it takes us a good 2 hours to get our reserve tickets, there's that guy with the platinum hair, the bouncer, yelling at everyone to keep our places. we get in and it's a mad house, beautiful hipsters everywhere, and we stand behind the sound booth and we get the perfect view of the stage and i'm leaning there, thinking how great it's going to be, full of hope. then wee chris come on stage, looking a bit forelorn and says isobel's ill. we all are thinking, gee, i hope they can play. we wait some more, anticipating the worst but hoping for the best when wee chris comes out 1 hr later to tell us they're not playing. so sad, i nearly cried big tears and then the long drive home we played cinerama the whole way to make us forget our sorrows. i sure hope they play the dc show and that iosbel gets better swiftly, i don't think i could stand two B&S disappointments in 2 weeks. sadly and forlorn, wee chi chi +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Sat Oct 24 18:59:01 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:59:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: B&S TORONTO GIG TONIGHT 24/10 CANCELLED! Message-ID: <36321565.65BE80D2@jeepster.uk> Dear all, just a quick note to let you know that Isobel is still ill and the band will NOT be playing the gig in Toronto tonight. She was prescribed antibiotics after the Boston gig for a bad dose of the flu, which she is allergic to. We will keep you posted with more information as to the rest of the tour as we get it. Sorry everyone. cheers, Katrina & David. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Sat Oct 24 19:18:10 1998 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 14:18:10 -0400 Subject: Sinister: it's the day! Message-ID: hi again, hm, i can only hope that no news is good news in regards to how sweet isobel is doing right now. i'm looking quite forward to seeing all the lovely listies at the toronto meet even if there is no show. perhaps we could head over to toby's and get some wings in the case of cancellation...i've been craving chicken wings for the longest time, toby's has the best spicy barbeque ones. this day is going by rather slowly. for all of you who will be at the show tonight, i'd love to get a hello from you. i've got glasses and short flaming red hair...it's a bit of a story, but i'm getting comfortable in it. it certainly is a change from my natural blonde. i'm sure i'll be wearing a sweater of some sort, and more than likely carrying a green camera bag. whee, i can't wait! love, jessicaxo "Homer, you've got it set on 'whore'." **************************************************** Someone had spied on us, I suppose, as we sat beside the canal and ate the sandwiches, drinking not even orangeade or Coca-Cola but hot milk out of a thermos. *************************************************** t i n y s t a r @ w o r l d y . c o m +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alix.campbell at xxx.net Sat Oct 24 19:07:13 1998 From: alix.campbell at xxx.net (Alix Campbell) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 19:07:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: are there canals in america? Message-ID: <000c01bdff79$212a7c00$03000004@n2f9x2> ahh, schooldays...i had a parka. It was of the manky 2nd hand variety, and i didn't like it much. That was, until my parents bought me a replacement from C&A , which was turquoise, and and some kind of mutant forerunner to puffa jackets. One day it was snowing and i left early for school and walked along the road instead of over the field. I found a duck's nest in a bit of hedge (nearby the river) and stole one of the eggs, my conscience beating wildly in my little skull. I put the egg in my pocket and took it to school. By this point i was feeling incredibly guilty, so i kept quiet about the egg. I even kept quiet about it when it broke and just harboured it in my pocket till the end of the day. My parents didn't mind much, i didn't bother trying to hide it from them, but the coat was never quite the same, and i wore the parka whenever i could. Even though my ability to look freakish and feral shone through particularly well in it. Thinking about it, it's a good job i didn't wear it to secondary school. They'd have had the social worker onto me a lot sooner than year 8 then. There's photos of me sporting the turquoise affair, in the hen run, my hair in a sweet little bob, holding a chick. It looks very innnocent. What i *recall* is that i was 'teaching' the chicks to fly, by throwing them in the air and letting them do the rest. Which they didn't. Like dysfunctional harrier jump jets (slightly). Again my parents didn't mind much. Lucky the social worker didn't get to hear about this. just spouting crap really, hoping to say something good, kinda like finding a ruby in a pile of clay. alix ( first name basis?) campbell just to add, what are people's middle names, this is an obsession i have, coz mine is perverse(at least in oxfordshire), i find them more interesting than first names. i knew a girl once who refused to admit her middle name, which was barbara, i don't know why though. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mm_kulik at xxx.EDU Sat Oct 24 19:38:24 1998 From: mm_kulik at xxx.EDU (Mothra) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 14:38:24 -0400 Subject: Sinister: PHILLY SHOW CANCELLED!!!!!! Message-ID: butch said: >An unbelieveable ending to two months of waiting: Belle and Sebastian cancel >tonight's show at Philadelphia's Trocadero, apparently due to Isobel's >illness. Here's a short version: Cinerama plays; B&S's equipment get set up, >which takes about 45 minutes; about 30 minutes go by with nothing but the >Housemartins playing; people start to get gitated; someone with a Scottish >accent comes out and says that someone in the band is ill and that she'e >been taken to the hospital, but the band will be on shortly, sorry for the >delay; another 45 minutes pass and another person, also Scottish (maybe >Chris?) comes out and apologizes profusely, saying that the band will not be >able to play due to Isobel's illness; someone shouts "JUST ONE SONG!" and he >just keeps saying "I'm sorry, I'm sorry , I'm sorry..." and then walks off >the stage; the lights come on; everyone is told to leave- get your $ back >where you bought your tickets... >At this point (midnight EDT, Friday night), I'm too disappointed to >describe, but I will say this (which is something I think alot of people >will say): Why can't a nine piece band make due with only eight when 1,200 >people have been waiting two hours in a club for them to play (and God knows >how many months or even years outside of it)??? If Isobel is truly ill, I >sincerely hope she gets well. I just don't know if I'll get over this >anytime soon. i was there as well...WHAT HAPPENED??? anyone have any further info on this?? i was quite traumatized and of course disappointed after waiting so long for this show...what happened to isobel?? is she alright?? and WILL THEY RESCHEDULE?? i wonder what bearing this has on the remainder of the tour...it seems to me that if her illness is serious enough to preclude a performance by the remainder of the band, it wouldn't be surprising if the rest of the tour meets the same fate...anybody know anything??? moira ********************************** Moira Kulik Box 906 Franklin & Marshall College P.O. Box 3220 Lancaster, PA 17604-3220 mm_kulik at acad.fandm.edu Music Director, WFNM Franklin & Marshall College Box 90 Lancaster, PA 17604 business line: 717/291.4098 office hours: tues/thurs 2 to 5 pm ********************************** ********************************** Moira Kulik Box 906 Franklin & Marshall College P.O. Box 3220 Lancaster, PA 17604-3220 mm_kulik at acad.fandm.edu Music Director, WFNM Franklin & Marshall College Box 90 Lancaster, PA 17604 business line: 717/291.4098 office hours: tues/thurs 2 to 5 pm ********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zangin at xxx.Org Sat Oct 24 20:08:15 1998 From: zangin at xxx.Org (zangin at xxx.Org) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 15:08:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: B&S in Athens GA? Message-ID: <19981024190816.16700.qmail@noel.pd.org> Hi everyone. Somebody told me that B&S were going to be playing in Athens Georgia next week. Does anybody know if this is true, and if so, where and what day? Thanks... Please reply to me via email-- zangin at pd.org +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mgilham at xxx.edu Sat Oct 24 20:26:41 1998 From: mgilham at xxx.edu (Michael H Gilham) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 15:26:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Philadelphia: CANCELED In-Reply-To: <199810240400.AAA11318@postoffice.dca.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 24 Oct 1998, Butch Sweaters wrote: > An unbelieveable ending to two months of waiting: Belle and Sebastian cancel > tonight's show at Philadelphia's Trocadero, apparently due to Isobel's > illness. Here's a short version: Cinerama plays; B&S's equipment get set up, > which takes about 45 minutes; about 30 minutes go by with nothing but the > Housemartins playing; people start to get gitated; someone with a Scottish > accent comes out and says that someone in the band is ill and that she'e > been taken to the hospital, but the band will be on shortly, sorry for the > delay; another 45 minutes pass and another person, also Scottish (maybe For the record, the first guy that came out never said the "band will be on shortly." He did say they were trying to "sort it out" and possibly said that, "hopefully [the] band will be on shortly." This may sound like the same thing, but, actually the first announcement was a good clue that they weren't going to play -- if you listened and watched closely ... Not that it stopped me from waiting around for the "official" word! ;-D > where you bought your tickets... > At this point (midnight EDT, Friday night), I'm too disappointed to > describe, but I will say this (which is something I think alot of people > will say): Why can't a nine piece band make due with only eight when 1,200 > people have been waiting two hours in a club for them to play (and God knows When the first guy made his announcement, I was tempted to yell up, "Get Sally [to fill in]" [Sally Murrell from Cinerama, that is]. ;-) But, yeah, it seemed they certainly coulda gone on w/o Isobel ... Evidently, for them, it's an "all or nothing" proposition ... Anyway, let's wish the best for Isobel! :-) take care, --Michael, who thinks The Trocadero really needs to re-think their "entrance system"!! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From richard.wheeler at xxx.com Fri Oct 23 20:38:28 1998 From: richard.wheeler at xxx.com (Rich Wheeler) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:38:28 -0400 Subject: Sinister: washington,d.c show Message-ID: <199810241941.PAA11431@smtp2.erols.com> hello----> i'm trying to find a ticket for a friend for the show at blackcat on the 30th( hope it doesn't get cancelled) by any chance does anyone on the list have an extra ticket or knows someone who does? if so please e-mail me at richard.wheeler at erols.com thanks for any help -rich +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From twinkle at xxx.net Sat Oct 24 21:04:45 1998 From: twinkle at xxx.net (petula) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:04:45 GMT Subject: Sinister: Toronto's cancelled, but come out anyhow Message-ID: <199810242004.UAA05172@trapdoor.aracnet.net> Dear all in Toronto, Due to the unfortunate cancellation tonight, I would like to invite anyone interested to the Duke of Gloucester to drown your sorrows, where myself, jj heldmann, her friends, and likely others (Lucas? Teri? Sandra?) will be soothed by the sweet sounds of some Northern Soul dj's as we down our pints and smoke far too many cigarettes. The Duke of Gloucester is a little pub tucked above a curry house, and it's on Yonge Street, about two blocks north of Wellesley, on the east side of Yonge. There will probably be a sandwich board type thing outside it with posters advertising the soul night, so you can't miss it. It goes til about 3 am, I might be leaving earlier for Pearson if (fingers crossed) my dearest gets on a flight (that's yet another nightmare which I will probably relate in a drunken haze to anyone who will listen), but otherwise we should be hanging there for sometime. There's no dancefloor but we usually clear the tables and cut some rug. Maybe I'll even win the dancing competition this time--I came 2nd last time! 8 pm, dress up anyhow--we've got our pride. For more info, email me. I'll be checking my account until about 7 pm. Get well Isobel. love elisabeth xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mm_kulik at xxx.EDU Sat Oct 24 21:23:31 1998 From: mm_kulik at xxx.EDU (Mothra) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 16:23:31 -0400 Subject: Sinister: washington d.c. show...a hopeless attempt. Message-ID: hello... i am one of the unfortunate mass who attended the cancelled show in philly last night...i will probably be disappointed yet again, but is the d.c. show sold out? probably. and does anyone have tickets they will not be using? probably not. but i thought i'd ask...next i may try phoning matador and seeing what i can find out there...but i'm sure this will be yet another fruitless attempt. AAAAAAAH, life!!! ah, well, at least i have tigermilk... moira ********************************** Moira Kulik Box 906 Franklin & Marshall College P.O. Box 3220 Lancaster, PA 17604-3220 mm_kulik at acad.fandm.edu Music Director, WFNM Franklin & Marshall College Box 90 Lancaster, PA 17604 business line: 717/291.4098 office hours: tues/thurs 2 to 5 pm ********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sweaters at xxx.net Sat Oct 24 18:10:43 1998 From: sweaters at xxx.net (Butch Sweaters) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 17:10:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Allergic Message-ID: <199810242107.RAA07361@postoffice.dca.net> David & Katrina wrote: >She was prescribed antibiotics after the Boston gig for a bad dose of the flu, which she is allergic to. I she allergic to the flu, or is she allergic to the antibiotics? I too am allergic to the flu, so if that the case, I know how she feels. -Butch THOBS: http://members.dca.net/sweaters/. New and improved. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MsBootsy at xxx.com Sat Oct 24 23:16:46 1998 From: MsBootsy at xxx.com (MsBootsy at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:16:46 EDT Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe_sinister Message-ID: <70edb04d.363251ce@aol.com> unsubscribe_sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jlambert at xxx.ca Sat Oct 24 23:15:21 1998 From: jlambert at xxx.ca (Eric Lamda) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:15:21 -0400 Subject: Sinister: B&S TORONTO GIG TONIGHT 24/10 CANCELLED! References: <36321565.65BE80D2@jeepster.uk> Message-ID: <36325179.2BA7@netcom.ca> David & Katrina wrote: > > Dear all, > > just a quick note to let you know that Isobel is still ill and the band will NOT > be playing the gig in Toronto tonight. Is this 100% for sure? Should I still go to the venue just in case? Eric ps: I am new to the list, so I am not familar with Sinister's members yet. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Sun Oct 25 00:01:45 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:01:45 +0100 Subject: Sinister: B&S TORONTO GIG TONIGHT 24/10 CANCELLED! References: <36321565.65BE80D2@jeepster.uk> <36325179.2BA7@netcom.ca> Message-ID: <36325C59.3C7217D7@jeepster.co.uk> Eric Lamda wrote: > > David & Katrina wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > just a quick note to let you know that Isobel is still ill and the band will NOT > > be playing the gig in Toronto tonight. > > Is this 100% for sure? Should I still go to the venue just in case? > > Eric > ps: I am new to the list, so I am not familar with Sinister's members > yet. This is 100% right i'm afraid. just to let all the newcomers know, Katrina and myself (David) run the fanclub and website and also now work for the record label. we tend to be busy and not mail daily, but we do always mail any confirmed news that we have to you straight away. the keyword here is 'confirmed', we really wouldn't mail news like this if it wasn't true. this doesn't help you, and we're sorry for that, but at least you can be sure of teh situation. David & Katrina +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mgilham at xxx.edu Sun Oct 25 00:29:52 1998 From: mgilham at xxx.edu (Michael H Gilham) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 19:29:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Allergic In-Reply-To: <199810242107.RAA07361@postoffice.dca.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 24 Oct 1998, Butch Sweaters wrote: > >She was prescribed antibiotics after the Boston gig for a bad dose of the > flu, > which she is allergic to. > > I she allergic to the flu, or is she allergic to the antibiotics? I too am > allergic to the flu, so if that the case, I know how she feels. What the writer meant to convey, I believe, was that Isobel is allergic to the antibiotics she was given to treat her flu? symptoms ... [I put the question mark after "flu" because that is a viral ailment! ...] best, --Michael +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mgilham at xxx.edu Sun Oct 25 00:44:38 1998 From: mgilham at xxx.edu (Michael H Gilham) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 19:44:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: washington d.c. show...a hopeless attempt. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 24 Oct 1998, Mothra wrote: > i am one of the unfortunate mass who attended the cancelled show in philly > last night...i will probably be disappointed yet again, but is the d.c. > show sold out? probably. and does anyone have tickets they will not be The DC show is now, in fact, sold out ... > using? probably not. but i thought i'd ask...next i may try phoning > matador and seeing what i can find out there...but i'm sure this will be > yet another fruitless attempt. AAAAAAAH, life!!! ah, well, at least i > have tigermilk... Good luck! I'll check w/ some people I know down here [DC] about other means of gaining admittance to the gig [guest lists] -- wouldn't be very optimistic, though ;-) So for those that managed to arrive early enough to see the whole Cinerama set, what did ya think? best, Michael PS If anyone lives in Balmore-DC area -- or knows someome that does -- there may be a chance that tickets will be given away on the WHFS radio programme, 'now hear this', which airs tomorrow [Sun.] nite. I think it starts around 8pm, but don't take my word for it [you might want to check around 7pm, if relevant]. They have a web-site: ; but I dunno if the air schedule is on there ... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Sun Oct 25 01:48:46 1998 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 19:48:46 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: cancellations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: These cancellations are terribly bad news, especially because of the reason. I hope Isobel recovers quickly, and everyone else stays healthy. Travel, nerves, and related hazards (poor sleep, poor diet, lots of new people) can take their toll. Are they not permitted, by contract, to perform in one way or another if one member is missing? Or have the rest of the band refused to perform, whether out of solidarity or for other reasons? I don't wish to seem insensitive. But even if they cannot perform the show they wanted to perform, it might demonstrate a great deal of respect for the audience if they were to play in whatever way they are able. On the other hand, one could make the argument that if they cannot do the show everyone expected to hear, then the audience is entitled to get their money back. So, I don't know... Also, not all players can fly by the seat of their pants. Maybe guitar and voice, for example, would not be a show that would make them proud. Well, please post if you hear one way or another about the Chicago show. Should we meet up at SmartBar regardless? --Mark __ Available now: SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 < Distributed by Dutch East India Trading and Carrot Top Distribution > < http://www.xnet.com/~mkolmar/BurningRome > < MP3 & RealAudio tracks > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iamnot at xxx.org Sat Oct 24 22:31:59 1998 From: iamnot at xxx.org (Fill in name here) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 17:31:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: From a Sad Boy named Franco. In-Reply-To: <01bdff71$22ebada0$LocalHost@oemcomputer> Message-ID: > amount of $$$ DURING RENT WEEK for absolute SHYTE is a kick in the teeth. > STRIKE ONE, Belle and Sebastian, STRIKE ONE. Oh stop your whining, you weren'tt he one who had to walk the couple of miles up Queen Street just to read a sign and turn round and say, "Oh well" and walk the trip back, then get on the bus and go home. One of them is sick. I think the bands responsibility lies to their sick friend, but maybe that's just me. iain +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Sun Oct 25 02:58:15 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 19:58:15 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Mishearings & Cancellations Message-ID: <007701bdffc3$5190ed80$1d9dcdcf@brier> My best lyric-mishearing was from "A Century of Elvis". Instead of: "How Elvis is supposed to be still alive" I heard: "How Elvis is supposed to be sterilized". I thought the "E Files" videos were pornos, and Elvis didn't have any reaction to them because he was castrated or something. But I was wrong. On the cancelled Philly show: I think the band owed it to everyone to play without her. Would ANYONE in the audience have rather had their money back than to have heard the songs without cello & Is's backup singing? But I guess it's not up to us to decide. But I think everyone would've preferred anything to nothing. I would rather hear four songs with David & an acoustic guitar than have my $12.50 back. Now I'm sure there will never be a California show, since that was dependent upon how well things went in the east. Well I've still got the CDs. Get well Isobel. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From RAnder3567 at xxx.com Sun Oct 25 03:22:16 1998 From: RAnder3567 at xxx.com (RAnder3567 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 23:22:16 EDT Subject: Sinister: Stuck Inside of Philly With The Arab Strap Blues Again.... Message-ID: <4f7e8182.36329968@aol.com> Well, this is one unfortunate Noo Yawker that made the trek to Philly - I won't bore you with the painful details of the car ride to and fro.....or the 2 hour wait outside the Troc.......I will just say that I believe Belle and Sebastian could have shown a lot more care for their fans, and that the fans in return could have been kinder. There were sins on both sides. Having said that, I now am reduced to begging for a ticket to the New York gigs, if they indeed are going to proceed. Please e-mail me if I can purchase a spare! Thanks, Robert +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lapis at xxx.edu Sun Oct 25 04:19:57 1998 From: lapis at xxx.edu (dave cohen) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:19:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: philly/nyc Message-ID: <199810250419.AAA07941@pobox.upenn.edu> i can't really add anything to the anguish hitherto posted regarding the philadelphia errm incident but if i could just stick my hand up and ask if anyone has an extra nyc ticket they would be kind enough to consider selling please email me manymany thanks --dave lapis at pobox.upenn.edu someone asked about cinerama -- not bad, musically not that far from the weddoes which was to be expected i guess, i don't have their album but i think they essentially played most of it. (also said this was their 2nd gig ever...can that be true?) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From BelSinistr at xxx.com Sun Oct 25 04:49:21 1998 From: BelSinistr at xxx.com (BelSinistr at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:49:21 EDT Subject: Sinister: Sinister cancelling Message-ID: <6f41871b.3632add1@aol.com> I am somewhat new to this list but i needed to voice my outrage on the matter of the Toronto show being cancelled. I was supposed to go see Belle tonight in Toronto. I am only 15 so me and a friend got a ride from his dad all the way to toronto. May i add that it took 3 hours to drive there a lot of food and gas money. anyway, we arrived at the venue and waited around for about an hour and when 8 rolled around they started posting signs saying that the concert was cancelled and postponed and whatnot. Well I talked to them and they said that they only found out about the cancellation that day around 4. I find this extremely inconsiderate on Belle and Sebastians part, I would have thought they would have had more concerns for there LOYAL FANS, don't get me wrong I hope Isobel gets well as soon as possible but just perhaps notifing the venue a day before the concert was to be cancelled would have been nice. Well thats what happened to me tonight and I am extremely bummed The good thing is they said it was going to be postponed so that we should hold onto our tickets... Ben +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iamnot at xxx.org Sun Oct 25 01:56:02 1998 From: iamnot at xxx.org (Fill in name here) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:56:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Sinister cancelling In-Reply-To: <6f41871b.3632add1@aol.com> Message-ID: > 3 hours to drive there a lot of food and gas money. anyway, we arrived at the > venue and waited around for about an hour and when 8 rolled around they > started posting signs saying that the concert was cancelled and postponed and > whatnot. I was there at 7, and the signs were up, just no-one had noticed them. *** Things I've learned *** 1. It's a long walk along Queen Strret East. 2. It's a long walk back along Queen Street East. 3. There's lots of scary people wanting lots of money on Queen Street East. This is not a good thing when you've got 100$ in your pocket and they demand to sheck for "spare change" even after you've given them 6$. 4. Never say "Yeah, I'll meet you at Marche" when neither of the people involved in theis meeting know where Marche is. 5. CDs in Canada are dirt cheap. 6. Norman Cooke is a genius. 7. Next time take a tram thingy along Queen Street East. 8. Toronto doesn't like me. Hoohum iain +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eyh96 at xxx.edu Sun Oct 25 05:32:59 1998 From: eyh96 at xxx.edu (remaniac) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:32:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: philadelphia debacle In-Reply-To: <19981024084440.23258.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: after making various arrangements with school, work etc., driving for over five hours, and waiting in line for about two, the cancellation was certainly a tremendous disappointment. for the most part, though, i think at least some of us were more concerned about isobel's (then) undisclosed condition and how poorly wee chris was treated than our own inconveniences. (though the attitudes of trocadero staff didn't lift any spirits, as we were essentially thrusted out of the building). would we really have wanted the band to play without an integral member, and with a more pressing concern on their minds? ok, now i won't draw the issue out any longer. indirect thanks to julie gerstein for her hospitality... and it was lovely to meet goon (who described the philadelphia experience quite well and had daisies!) and his sister, and other sinisterines. --emily +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pinaplcrsh at xxx.com Sun Oct 25 05:42:45 1998 From: Pinaplcrsh at xxx.com (Pinaplcrsh at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:42:45 EDT Subject: Sinister: Mishearings & Cancellations Message-ID: <9f0841f9.3632ba55@aol.com> In a message dated 98-10-24 23:03:18 EDT, you write: << On the cancelled Philly show: I think the band owed it to everyone to play without her. Would ANYONE in the audience have rather had their money back than to have heard the songs without cello & Is's backup singing? But I guess it's not up to us to decide. But I think everyone would've preferred anything to nothing. I would rather hear four songs with David & an acoustic guitar than have my $12.50 back. Now I'm sure there will never be a California show, since that was dependent upon how well things went in the east. Well I've still got the CDs. Get well Isobel. >> i wasn't at the show, but if i was, i wouldn't have wanted them to play under the circumstances. i think they did the right thing. taking care of their friend and bandmate seems far more important to me than playing a half-assed show when their minds would've been elsewhere. you've got to have your priorities. *alyssa marie* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Blissxo at xxx.com Sun Oct 25 07:01:18 1998 From: Blissxo at xxx.com (Blissxo at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 02:01:18 EST Subject: Sinister: play nice, dammit Message-ID: <6f41caa3.3632ccbe@aol.com> In a message dated 10/24/98 11:51:27 PM EST, ben writes: > I am somewhat new to this list but i needed to voice my outrage on the > matter > of the Toronto show being cancelled. > I was supposed to go see Belle tonight in Toronto. I am only 15 so me and a > friend got a ride from his dad all the way to toronto. May i add that it > took > 3 hours to drive there a lot of food and gas money. anyway, we arrived at > the > venue and waited around for about an hour and when 8 rolled around they > started posting signs saying that the concert was cancelled and postponed > and > whatnot. Well I talked to them and they said that they only found out about > the cancellation that day around 4. I find this extremely inconsiderate on > Belle and Sebastians part, I would have thought they would have had more > concerns for there LOYAL FANS, don't get me wrong I hope Isobel gets well as > soon as possible but just perhaps notifing the venue a day before the > concert > was to be cancelled would have been nice. okay, i hate to start fights or even contribute to disagreements, but i've got to say that this is not being fair to the band or jeepster or especially isobel. for crying out loud, i'm sure she didn't ask to be put in the hospital in the middle of their first north american tour. it's not like there's a plot to make kids sad by promising a visit from their favourite band and then cancelling at the last minute. poor isobel is sick and in the hospital, and the others can't very well leave her lying in a bed in phila while they go off and continue the shows. several people have been a bit nasty about this whole sad situation, saying that somehow the band owes it to people to play a show, whether or not one member is missing. i don't blame them for not wanting to play without isobel, and while i would like to say that "the show must go on, they could play without her" it's totally unfair because the bad have their own reasons for making the decision they have. i doubt they're oblivious to the fact that a lot of people have made big plans focussing on their shows, but it's not about us fans. as much as i would have loved to see any part of the band tonight, i'd be terribly sad if they forced themselves to play while their hearts were breaking for poor isobel. yes, some people drove long distances and totally rearranged their lives to have a chance to see belle and sebastian just once, there were long plane rides and car rides and much money spent on planning this event, but you know what? they didn't ask you to commit yourself in that way. they don't owe you a show even if you walked over on water from australia. you can't expect a band to schedule shows in every single city where there are fans, so of course some people will have to travel. some people also pay higher rent to have the benefit of living in the city. deal with it. i was thrilled enough that a canadian date was even considered, and for people like ben here to say that they need to be compensated somehow for their effort is just disgusting. have a little concern and consideration. although i didn't get to see the band tonight, i did get to meet a whole bunch of fabulous people, drink plenty of tonic water, inhale too much secondhand smoke, share hilarious stories, watch people get drunk, stuff 5 people in the backseat of a cab, take photos like a mad tourist, and i also experienced the infectious obsession created by stripping russian midgets. maybe the reason i'm not angry at the band at all is because firstly, who can help being sick? and secondly, i had a great time with the sinisterines. the venue was unable to be notified a day ahead of time because the setback only happened the night before. the band seems to have their prorities right, thinking of isobel first and themselves second, and not worrying about the shows. yeah, i'm really sad and disappointed that i can't see belle and sebastian, i've waited a long time for this and got so many hopes up, booked the entire weekend off work so i could indulge in pre- and post- show festivities, but hey, it's not the end of the world, i met some great people, i had funfunfun, and that's that. so please stop saying that because you invested x amount of time and money and because you're a loyal fan that they should be thinking of you. nope, wrong. they should think about isobel and themselves and hope that being in an american hospital is not costing them too much money. can you tell that i'm pissed off at people being so mean? grrr, jessicaxo ps. the 'xo' at the end of my name is like a kiss and a hug, not my last name. just (ahem) in case there was any confusion (er, debbie?). +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MWaggner at xxx.com Sun Oct 25 07:04:42 1998 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 02:04:42 EST Subject: Sinister: From a Sad Boy named Franco. Message-ID: In a message dated 98-10-24 13:11:31 EDT, you write: > STRIKE ONE, Belle and Sebastian, STRIKE ONE. > Oh, this made me sad... I've been reading the huge amounts of mail after traveling 650 miles since 5 p.m. on Friday... and it's nice to see that most of the people have been concerned for Isobel's health foremost. We talked a little with Stuart later on and he apologized, over and over again, worried about the fans who had come so far to face disappointment. He was amazed by how far people had traveled -- I think he was truly surprised by it. Must not happen like that in the UK. He was also terribly worried about Isobel. Yes, it was a great disappointment for the fans, no matter how far they traveled. But, consider the disappointment the band must be feeling as well. To have come so far, prepared to perform their songs for an eager and recently enlarged audience -- while being, so it always seems, shy and worried about the whole thing. Then to have a disaster like this happen... I know it seems as if the band "should" have done something, perfomed in some way, at first glance. But, Belle & Sebastian are a unique sort of band, I think. And that's what makes them -- and their music -- so special. Who knows, really, what the decision-making process was last night? I am sure that Isobel's health and well-being must have been the main thing, followed by the rest of the band's comfort level with perfoming without an integral part of the group, all the while worried about her. They must have felt that it would have been detrimental to the music and the band to go on, or they certainly would have. I can tell you that everyone we met from the band looked as disappointed as the fans -- No, more so... hell, THEY traveled THOUSANDS of miles and now feel they've let people down. Not to mention they're stuck living in a bus... Despite my disappointment, I did have a fairly good time after all. Cinerama were really good (it's all taste of all sorts). We attended the aftershow in the upstairs bar and enjoyed Xavier's band, Clock Strikes Thirteen. There is some talent on this list!! (And thanks, Xavier, for the making the "mother and child reunion" possible :) It was great to meet listees and put faces to mail -- It is soooo nice to have someone come up and say, "Are you...." and just start talking away! We all crossed our fingers and hoped to meet again in DC and NY. I guess I'm trying to say, Belle and Sebastian have given us lots: wonderful music that people have laughed, cried and fallen in love to (and some are apparently shagging to), inspired a honey of a list that has everything from the ridiculous to the sublime (AND smut!), the opportunity to make friends and plan meet-ups and picnics... Let's just try to give them some of that back by trying to support them in what must be an awfully hard time of decisions (and disappointments) for them. They deserve a little more than someone yelling "fuck you" and the other crap poor Chris had to take, as if they did something awful on purpose. Oh, Pollyanna, me... --michele/simone +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Thessaly1 at xxx.com Sun Oct 25 07:05:28 1998 From: Thessaly1 at xxx.com (Thessaly1 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 02:05:28 EST Subject: Sinister: hoping for isobel's recovery Message-ID: <6d13102d.3632cdb8@aol.com> hi all, well i am here in chicago already for the show on monday and all i can say is that i hope isobel is well for the show. i am beginning to have major doubts and i think i am going to be heartbroken come monday. can someone please e- mail me right away if they find out the show is cancelled? i only get sinister in digest form and won't find out for a while after the official post is made. i might be able to change my flight and come back early. i am set to stay until tuesday afternoon. since it is a $25 charge to change my ticket, i think i will stay anyways until tuesday, but i would like to know as soon as possible if the show is going to be cancelled. i came a LONG way today for this, and i want her to feel better so i can see them. (and for the sake of isobel's health, i hope she is better too). sadly, jennifer the la girl in chicago :( Thessaly1 at aol.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jbrent at xxx.ca Sun Oct 25 09:27:48 1998 From: jbrent at xxx.ca (Jason Brent) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:27:48 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Chicago? Message-ID: <3632EF14.7FBA3CEC@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca> YIKES!!! Its 2am, and I've been putting off my 16 hour drive to Chicago to hear some news. If I drive all that way, and its canceled, I'll kill myself!!! Not due to actually missing the show, but due to the fact that I was counting on the excitement of the show to keep me awake for the drive back directly afterwards, so I can write my exam on tuesday! It sucks being in the dark, especially when someone's health is at stake! I just have to say though, even if I make the trip, and there is NO SHOW, my love and respect for B&S will not change!!! Thats more than I can say for some people on this list! Get well Isobel! JASON +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aadam at xxx.com Sun Oct 25 08:20:43 1998 From: aadam at xxx.com (It's me!) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 03:20:43 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Cinerama and Chicago (but not together) Message-ID: <3632DF4D.27CD@interaccess.com> Dave wrote: > > someone asked about cinerama -- not bad, musically not that > far from the weddoes which was to be expected i guess, i don't > have their album but i think they essentially played most of it. > (also said this was their 2nd gig ever...can that be true?) It was their 2nd show _in the USA_. I have absolutely no idea whether the Chicago show will take place or not, but I was at Metro tonight and saw no indication (ie: signs) that the show was cancelled. Since I didn't know of Isobel's illness until after I got home, I didn't know to look. Anyone who wants to try calling them for details (as I will do tomorrow) can at (773) 549 4140. And if for some reason anyone needs to call me ("help, I'm from out-of-town and I'm at Ashland and Division and I'm lost!"), (773) 235 1649. Wishing Isobel all best towards a speedy recovery. Aadam +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Sun Oct 25 11:34:43 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 12:34:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Show Mustn't Necessarily Go On! Message-ID: <01be000b$76048300$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Those of you who were lucky enough to be at the Freddie Mercury tribute concert at Wembley will no doubt remember how disconcerting it was to see Queen without Freddie, even though they had replacements with the talent and charisma of, for example, George Michael and David Bowie. Surely it is a little churlish to expect Belle and Sebastain to play without Isobel Campbell, the nearest thing they have to Freddie Mercury? The Rolling Stones cancelled a huge stadium gig in Bilbao in July due to Mick Jagger's illness, and I'm pretty sure nobody expected them to perform in some kind of Mickless limbo, like a bunch of defecating elephants on downers. That's what Belle and Sebastian would be without Isobel, a bunch of defecating elephants on downers. Imagine Mick's tortured trumpet wails as he suddenly recalled poor wee Isobel's hospital plight. I dread to think what lyrics Mad Dog Murdoch would have come up with in his twisted state of advanced dementia. Illness already plays a major part in his deranged mindset, so if his thoughts were to wander to tiny little Isobel's predicament we could have ended up some kind of stream of healthcare consciousness ramble like Dylan '66 pondering NHS cuts. I'm sure Sarah would have trouble manhandling all the wierd watermelons on her lonesome, possibly resulting in a cocophonous death rattle from Peter Cushing's worst nightmares. On acid. In short, I have every faith that the band's democratic decision to not play was the correct one. Huzzah! Having said that, the wailing and gnashing of teeth on the list has been instructive at the very least. "Strike one", isn't that some kind of baseball terminology? What would have happened if B&S had cancelled in Leeds? Fluffy Sarah shouting "LEG BEFORE WICKET, BELLE AND SEBASTIAN, LEG BEFORE WICKET!" Somehow, I doubt it, but it's a charming thought. I would also like to agree with the person who would have liked to see David performing a few acoustic songs. Preferably with Katrina banging away on the tambourine. I would also like to salute those of you who had the good sense to make the best of a bad job and have some poptastic fun with fellow listees and The Mouse Ran Up the Clock. You will all be getting a Sinister Scout Badge from Der Honeymeister for Lisa-like Services to the Blind. And believe me, a cancelled B&S concert is better than a not-cancelled Mark Lanegan shindig, if that's any consolation. My major worry at the moment is that Sparkly Orange McRagtag might not get to share a herring or two down by the wellside with our very own Genevieve.....I've been secretly looking forward to it for ages, you know. Yours in trembling anticipation, Peter PS. The WHO carried on when Keith Moon collapsed at the Cow Palace. They invited some dude from the audience to take his place, didn't they Keith? But apparently it was shit. Perhaps B&S should play the Cow Palace and Tanglewood Music Shed. They certainly have a ring to them. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Sun Oct 25 10:49:46 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 10:49:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The Show Mustn't Necessarily Go On! References: <01be000b$76048300$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Message-ID: <3633024A.379BD0BD@jeepster.co.uk> PJMiller wrote: > I would also like to agree with the person who would have > liked to see David performing a few acoustic songs. > Preferably with Katrina banging away on the tambourine. no doubt we would've jumped at the opportunity to help, and oh, the heady feeling would've been great, katrina and i with b&s backing! but no, we're in the wrong country. you see we're still at home and the first we knew of this debacle was when neil (who works for the band) called us to give us the news and to try and warn the ppl who were heading to the Toronto gig. to re-iterate for all of you heading to the Chicago show, the band stayed over in philly (hence missing the Toronto gig) due to Isobel having an allergic reaction to the anti-biotics she was prescribed that were supposed to fight the flu. when we spoke to neil yesterday he said that her state had improved a bit and with all things going as they were, the band should all be in chicago in time to play that gig. if we hear otherwise we'll let you know ASAP. in the meantime we'll be phoning them every now and then to make sure things are still OK. if you're setting out for Chicago and have no idea what to expect, well just jot down this URL, http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/news/index.shtml we'll update this page if anything adverse happens and as it's web based you can check this from net cafes on the way, in the meantime you should presume that the gig is on. anyhow, i'll let you all get back to your sundays. speak to you all later David (& Katrina) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Sun Oct 25 13:55:38 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid Dossinger) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 08:55:38 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Thought there was love in everything and everyone... Message-ID: <36332DD9.D405A9B5@bigfoot.com> Occasionally, I worry about us. I was lying in bed this morning, basking in the thrill of getting a whole extra hour today, when I thought, "I bet people are arguing about this cancellation thing"...about whether people should be allowed to get pissed about it, or whether our thoughts or prayers should be with Isobel. If I can throw in my opinion, I think this is a case for the corny-but-true "put yourself in their shoes" cheese. On one hand, I can't imagine how sick with worry the members of B&S must be for their bandmate and friend. Which is a situation we've all been in at some point or another, and when a good friend is in the hospital, you're pretty prone to tunnel vision, and it's not likely that while they were waiting in the hospital to hear about Isobel's condition that they were wondering how far people had driven for the show, or how long people had been waiting for it (and how excited they had been). It's completely understandable. But so is the fact that people who had made a huge event out of the shows (like I have) are inclined to have the first reaction of anger and to expect Belle and Sebastian to try to give them at least something. So all I'm saying is, try and understand how sad and scary it is for Belle and Sebastian (especially to be going through this in a strange place), but also accept that different people have different ways of dealing with disappointment, and for some, it's anger. So just let people vent a little, a'fore people start coming out swinging. There...now kiss and make up. Now kiss again. Now with a little tongue. And pull your bodies a little closer. Do you mind if I turn this camera on? You're so naive, Reid +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Thessaly1 at xxx.com Sun Oct 25 16:09:53 1998 From: Thessaly1 at xxx.com (Thessaly1 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:09:53 EST Subject: Sinister: smart bar Message-ID: <2ba1cb6a.36334d51@aol.com> hey there! in response to mark's post i would like to say that we should still go to the smart bar in chicago even if the show is cancelled. i think it would be fun to meet other b and s fans (since i don't know too many) and we might as well have fun even if we don't get to see the show. e-mail me if you want to go, and we can swap discriptions so we can find eachother! cheers! jennifer +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dagrayson at xxx.edu Sun Oct 25 16:27:41 1998 From: dagrayson at xxx.edu (~Dana~) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:27:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe sinister Message-ID: unsubscribe sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jhatton at xxx.net Sun Oct 25 16:47:04 1998 From: jhatton at xxx.net (Joshua Hatton) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:47:04 -0500 Subject: Sinister: (no subject) Message-ID: <36335608.B33@snet.net> unsubscribe sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jhatton at xxx.net Sun Oct 25 16:48:30 1998 From: jhatton at xxx.net (Joshua Hatton) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:48:30 -0500 Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe sinister now please! Message-ID: <3633565E.25E@snet.net> unsubscribe sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atieger at xxx.com Sun Oct 25 17:19:40 1998 From: atieger at xxx.com (aaron tieger) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 09:19:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981025171940.24371.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> At the risk of being redundant, after so many people have spoken so eloquently on the matter: A band is a band. It lives as one, travels as one, plays as one, gets sick as one. The band did the right thing by cancelling the show, though it is a shame that so many people were inconvenienced. At least those people didn't have to be rushed to the hospital in a foreign country in the middle of a tour to play for hysterical fans. And on a more trivial note: even if they were to consider playing without a member, it's not as if Isobel is just some guitarist who can learn the songs in a minute (and believe me, I mean no offense to anyone by that). How many people play cello and sing like her? Now that my two cents are in I do hope Isobel is better and that the rest of the tour proceeds smoothly, for band and fans alike. aaron === atieger at rocketmail.com auger/anvil "So goodbye, so long, the road calls me dear and your tears cannot bind me anymore And farewell to the girl with the sun in her eyes I'll kiss you and then I'll be gone" --Tom Waits _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail, free e-mail for the planet. * Visit & explore Cybersmith at http://www.cybersmith.com * Get your web-based e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Sun Oct 25 17:40:54 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 17:40:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: CHICAGO GIG ON - ISOBEL'S CONDITION IMPROVING Message-ID: <363362A6.A6BB1C9A@jeepster.co.uk> hi again, we're back with another update for everyone stateside and with tickets for the US dates. we've just spoken to the band and can now confirm a few details: firstly the Chicago gig and the remainding dates on the tour are all on. the band are at the moment heading to chicago and intend to play the gig when they get there. secondly, isobel's state has improved loads, but she's still ill. she's come off the anti-biotics that had ruined the last two dates and has returned to her prior state of simply being infected with a stomach flu. obviously this isn't the best situation, but she is able to keep her food down and is apparently in high spirits (whilst being off-colour!). she will be on stage at the chicago gig (providing nothing else untoward happens to her). we've had a few people request where they can send their get well wishes for Isobel to. for all the stateside listees, it's probably best to send them to Matador (c/o Kris Gillespie, 625 Broadway, 12th floor, NYC, NY, 10012). for everyone else, you can send anything to us at Jeepster and we'll pass them on for when she gets back (217 Canalot, 222 Kensal road, London, W10 5BN). thirdly, for all of the people who attended the Philly show and were due to attend Toronto, refunds will be supplied by contacting the company who sold you your tickets. the band have again expressed their deep regret at not being able to play, they know that some of you travelled a very long way to attend the gigs and apologise. chris was incredibly brave to walk on stage at Philly and to say 'sorry', i can only imagine how harrowing his apology was. the band do want to express this apology again, they are very sorry. any updates on this will appear on the news page at http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/news/index.shtml cheers David & Katrina +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alix.campbell at xxx.net Sun Oct 25 18:05:20 1998 From: alix.campbell at xxx.net (Alix Campbell) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 18:05:20 -0000 Subject: Sinister: my brain hurts Message-ID: <012d01be0042$1f95b8e0$03000004@n2f9x2> Oh, another migraine day. i lay down to try to alleviate the pain and fell into a coma-like state for a while. i wake up to find i had been dribbling all over the sleeping bag which i'm using to supplement my duvet, now the weather's gone cold. i just have to keep telling myself that i'm not well, and shouldn't trust myself, when i get like that, but it's ever so depressing. anyway, i've recovered now, though i do feel as though i may get another one if i don't watch out, but then i've recently become a very big hyperchondriac. thoughts of hernias, brain haemorrages, meningitis, encephalitis lethargica, and random death keep bothering me. how can i stop being so fucking morbid? it's the manics fan in me - yep there's a tiny little goth girl inside of me, waxing poetical about 1993. i like to hoover too. about arab straps, i thought they were for horses - ie arab horses - not people, also they're a photo of one in select this month - it's a bit of an anticlimax to look at though. still can't think of any damn SMUT. well, there is something, but there's no way i'm sharing it. alix alix alix alix alxi alxia xlia xlaix alix alxia xlia xlaix alxial xlaixl alix 'Horses and women, that's what i like' well..no. Horses are over-rated( i *know*, i used to dream about them a lot, and now i know they're hyped), and women, well, women tend to be feminists. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Sun Oct 25 18:10:51 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 18:10:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: jeepster-news: CHICAGO GIG ON - ISOBEL'S CONDITION IMPROVING Message-ID: <363369AB.D3E61F36@jeepster.co.uk> hi again, we're back with another update for everyone stateside and with tickets for the US dates. we've just spoken to the band and can now confirm a few details: firstly the Chicago gig and the remainding dates on the tour are all on. the band are at the moment heading to chicago and intend to play the gig when they get there. secondly, isobel's state has improved loads, but she's still ill. she's come off the anti-biotics that had ruined the last two dates and has returned to her prior state of simply being infected with a stomach flu. obviously this isn't the best situation, but she is able to keep her food down and is apparently in high spirits (whilst being off-colour!). she will be on stage at the chicago gig (providing nothing else untoward happens to her). we've had a few people request where they can send their get well wishes for Isobel to. for all the stateside listees, it's probably best to send them to Matador (c/o Kris Gillespie, 625 Broadway, 12th floor, NYC, NY, 10012). for everyone else, you can send anything to us at Jeepster and we'll pass them on for when she gets back (217 Canalot, 222 Kensal road, London, W10 5BN). thirdly, for all of the people who attended the Philly show and were due to attend Toronto, refunds will be supplied by contacting the company who sold you your tickets. the band have again expressed their deep regret at not being able to play, they know that some of you travelled a very long way to attend the gigs and apologise. chris was incredibly brave to walk on stage at Philly and to say 'sorry', i can only imagine how harrowing his apology was. the band do want to express this apology again, they are very sorry. any updates on this will appear on the news page at http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/news/index.shtml cheers David & Katrina ----------------------------------------------------------------------- .this message came from the jeepster records news list . .visit our site at http://www.jeepster.co.uk for more info . . . .to unsubscribe yourself from this list send a message to . .majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'unsubscribe news' in the body. .of the message . . . .any problems? then simply send a mailto:owner-news at jeepster.co.uk . ----------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Sun Oct 25 20:28:50 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 15:28:50 -0500 Subject: Sinister: smart bar In-Reply-To: <2ba1cb6a.36334d51@aol.com> Message-ID: At 11:09 -0500 10/25/98, Thessaly1 at aol.com wrote: [hey there! [ [in response to mark's post i would like to say that we should still go to the [smart bar [in chicago even if the show is cancelled. i think it would be fun to meet [other b and s fans (since i don't know too many) and we might as well have [fun even if we don't get to see the show. e-mail me if you want to go, and we [can swap discriptions so we can find eachother! [ [cheers! [ [jennifer about smart bar -- i could've *sworn* it was 21+. then again, i could be wrong. -kerry (who will be about 1000 miles away from the chicago show) " ' okay stimpy, it's time for your evolving lessons.' 'oh RAPTURE!' " -ren and stimpy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Sun Oct 25 20:14:16 1998 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 16:14:16 -0400 Subject: Sinister: ticket refunds/rescheduling? Message-ID: hey all, i'm just curious about this whole ticket refund thing...i know that i should just go back to the ticketmaster (grr) where i got my ticket, but i'm wondering, if (and that's a bigbig if) the toronto show happens to be rescheduled (will it? pleasepleaseplease say yes!), would i be able to use my ticket for the new show? is there any talk at all of rescheduling the missed dates? perhaps the band could just come stay at my house and play for a select group of friends (that would be List One, for those of you who graciously attended yesterday's toronto meet) in my backyard, i would even spring for little chili pepper lights to add ambience, and i've got a very comfortable sofa bed that the band could share. oh, did i mention i've made some amazing thai noodles? those would also be available for sharing. i do have a lovely bucket that isobel could vomit into if she's still got the stomach flu, i'm sure we could also find somebody to run her a strawberry bubble bath to cure her ills. i've got midterms this week. this is why i'm posting so much - trying to avoid the pending sense of doom. just bear with me, here. grrr. love, jessicaxo "Homer, you've got it set on 'whore'." **************************************************** Someone had spied on us, I suppose, as we sat beside the canal and ate the sandwiches, drinking not even orangeade or Coca-Cola but hot milk out of a thermos. *************************************************** t i n y s t a r @ w o r l d y . c o m +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snyderd at xxx.edu Sun Oct 25 21:18:28 1998 From: snyderd at xxx.edu (Dave Snyder) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 16:18:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: CHICAGO SHOW IS ON!! Message-ID: I just called the Chicago Metro and they told me the band told them they were going to be playing!!! I mentioned the last 2 cancellations and they told me they were aware, but the band was definitely playing tomorrow night!!! Relieved, Dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MileEndGrl at xxx.com Sun Oct 25 22:14:46 1998 From: MileEndGrl at xxx.com (MileEndGrl at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 17:14:46 EST Subject: Sinister: Thought there was love in everything and everyone... Message-ID: <9c995ef5.3633a2d6@aol.com> In a message dated 10/25/98 6:03:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, reid.dossinger at bigfoot.com writes: << There...now kiss and make up. Now kiss again. Now with a little tongue. And pull your bodies a little closer. Do you mind if I turn this camera on? >> Roflol!!! I just thought that was so hysterical. I think I am going to send Isobel a get well card and I think most people should too. Whenever I am really sick, like last year when I had surgery, a nice get well message always makes me feel better. Just the fact that I know someone cares lifts my spirits. I am going to include a poem. So I think you all should write one also and perhaps she will feel 98% better just knowning so many people out there care about her. I went to see Air the other night, I am not the biggest fan, but I must say I was so shocked at how good they were. My respect for them has near doubled since then. Just a side thought. Cassandra +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From IndiaRubb at xxx.com Sun Oct 25 22:48:23 1998 From: IndiaRubb at xxx.com (IndiaRubb at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 17:48:23 EST Subject: Sinister: BWTAS tabs Message-ID: <84b18775.3633aab7@aol.com> New to this list, and I was just wondering if anyone has tabbed out any of the songs from the new album that aren't up on the list web page yet, eg. Ease Your Feet, Brilliant Career, etc. I went through the archives and didn's see any. I have a few I can tab out if no one's done them yet. If you want 'em, I'll post 'em. gwt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sun Oct 25 23:08:08 1998 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 15:08:08 PST Subject: Sinister: that really is so strange Message-ID: <19981025230808.18934.qmail@hotmail.com> oh my...all those days of crying and praying-pretending to read the fortune on the bottom of my teacup and moaning and hating my parents and being distracted with candy and intricate sleeping at the bus shelter-running away plans....and they CANCELLED Toronto! how eerie....Of course,most of me is sad for everyone who went out...and Isobel for being so sick...but the teeny selfish evil part of me that lives in the wall is wondering does this mean a rescheduling of dates! Oh how ridiculous running away would have been now... this really is so strange,i was so sure i'd be missing a big chunk of live forever,so sure they'd never come back...and then cancelled. lady penelope..i know how you feel about stuart murdoch, he's not a priggishness,he's 'achingly beautiful' i saw that picture of him in the SELECT with the Felt tshirt,a teeny little porcelain ceramic kitten he is! goosebumps..i swear Genevieve 'if i was the king of the world,tell you what i'd do,have belle and sebastian everywhere,and make sweet love to you' ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Mon Oct 26 00:57:40 1998 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksandaJill) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 19:57:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: The ABBA-B&S Connection... Message-ID: <199810260057.TAA31430@dept.english.upenn.edu> First I want to say I too am very embarrassed to have been in Philadelphia with all the negativity directed at Chris and the band due to Isobel's illness...selfishness is the biggest pitfall of the popfan, and they really don't owe us anything as they've already given us so much, so just wait patiently for the next time they come around to unload your drooling adoration (you do remember those days, don't you, when you would've died for them??). We're talking about humans here who get ill like we do, not music-performing life-affirming robots (that's Kraftwerk, if there was any confusion, who probably *could* play if someone got sick). Secondly, and to the main point of my message. Tell me I'm not crazy, that at 2:16 of "You Made Me Forget My Dreams" the electric piano break does not sound *exactly* like the beginning of ABBA's "S.O.S."--it's freaky! Another ABBA-Scottish band connection: the beginning of the Cocteau Twins' "Blue Bell Knoll" sounds like the piano break in ABBA's "Money Money Money." Is there a conspiracy afoot? Discuss. Not that there's anything wrong with referring to ABBA, they are gods. And I'm not ashamed to say it. Knowing me knowing you, Xavier -- BXK "It's recess everywhere bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu but in his heart." http://www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 --Ralph Wiggum X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eyh96 at xxx.edu Mon Oct 26 01:56:04 1998 From: eyh96 at xxx.edu (remaniac) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 20:56:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: NYC residents/concertgoers Message-ID: i returned home disappointed from the philadelphia cancellation only to find a message that i will not be able to stay with my friend in nyc during the b+s dates there! if any of you has a spare patch of floor and is willing to let me crash at your place (or know of some other viable option, such as a decent hostel), i would be so grateful. i'll bring you cookies or daisies or a dog on wheels badge or something. ideally i'd like to be in manhattan friday through tuesday, but as long as i can be there for the sunday and monday shows, that's fine. please email me privately as soon as you can. thank you, emily +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From akemi at xxx.com Mon Oct 26 04:28:57 1998 From: akemi at xxx.com (Nicole A. Sakai) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 20:28:57 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Rather Important Petition References: <9f004aad.362f8f6c@aol.com> Message-ID: <3633FA89.54D60C0E@seanet.com> Putneysays at aol.com wrote: > Dear Belle And Sebastian Listees, > sorry to post the list, but I thought this was rather important. > Please add > your name to this list, whether you happen to be homosexual, bisexual, > or just > a straight person who's disgusted with the recent killing of Matthew > Shepard > in Wyoming, like I am. > Thanks, > Susannah > > Please consider supporting this supportive gesture towards American > Airlines - after all, isn't public health about social justice? > Susannah-I think you're pretty cool I think that's pretty righteous (California slang for "really-kick-ass-in-a-Henry Rollins-kind-of-way"-sorry guys, but I'm originally from the valley) for someone to post this. If I can be on a soapbox for a second; I think it's SO important to speak out and speak up. It's just like Belle and Sebastian say:"The wider issues of the day will pass you by, you're going to pay for looking @ the soil when people talk to you." Maybe that's about being an introvert, but I think it certainly applies to political introverts as well. Anyway, I love all of you guys. You're like the family I've never had (and never met). Any B&S fans in Seattle? Anyone offering to make copies of Tigermilk ? :) [i do mean that] E-mail me. akemi at seanet.com big hugs and all that, Jacob +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rmclella at xxx.com Mon Oct 26 04:50:04 1998 From: rmclella at xxx.com (rory mclellan) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 20:50:04 PST Subject: Sinister: I won't get my hopes up Message-ID: <19981026045004.12189.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows if it would be at all possible that Belle and Sebastian might have the time to do the Phil. and Toronto shows at the end of the tour. I have no idea about their schedule (flights etc) and understand if its not possible, anyway. Rory (who also missed the Belles in Glasgow in August) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jrherr at xxx.edu Sun Oct 25 19:13:36 1998 From: jrherr at xxx.edu (Josh Herr) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 00:13:36 +0500 Subject: Sinister: DC Tickets?????? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981026001336.006ce25c@mail.vt.edu> hi list... I have been on the list for what must be over a year now and I have never posted... I just wanted to say that after driving 18 hours and spending money for gas, tolls, lodging, food, and lastly five tickets to the philly show. Not to mention I missed two days of work... I'm "slightly" upset that I was not able to see Belle and Sebastian play. It's actually become quite a joke now for me and my friends... and I'm feeling really bad about the guy up front who yelled "I'm gonna KILL you!" to Chris after the final anouncement... but it really was quite funny... ok, my question is could someone please tell me were I could find two tickets to the DC show? Everyone I have talked to is out of tickets! Thanks for the time and sorry about my gripe session. ~ josh +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Thessaly1 at xxx.com Mon Oct 26 06:43:17 1998 From: Thessaly1 at xxx.com (Thessaly1 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 01:43:17 EST Subject: Sinister: yeah! Message-ID: i am so glad that the chicago show is going tobe happening! :) here is what i am going to wearing if anyone sees me there! a black cord jumper, striped long sleeve shirt and holding or wearing a green jacket! i am about 5'2 and i have short auburn hair. i hope to see all of your chicago show people there! :) i will be early so that i can witness momus since i haven't seen him before! :) happy happy joy joy! jennifer +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Mon Oct 26 10:33:32 1998 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:33:32 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: Random meetings Message-ID: <2596B27B0@hermes.nottingham.ac.uk> Someone wrote a while ago about us going to the same university but never having met each other. It reminded me of something that happened in the summer. I was walking through Kidderminster (known locally as Kiddy, or "big pile of poo"), which is really just a very grey, dull place and not the sort of place you expect anything to happen, when I saw a girl in a B&S bus t-shirt. It was an orange and maroon one and looked lovely and it brightened up my day, cos I was feeling a bit unhappy. I was going to speak to the girl, but I'd been grinning inanely at her t-shirt for quite a while and I think she thought I was looking at her boobs, so I just smiled. Byeeeeeeeeeeee Robin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Mon Oct 26 10:58:47 1998 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (James M Errington) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:58:47 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Oh no! Message-ID: <199810261053.KAA29000@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> I got over here this morning after an uninteresting weekend of, um, writing to see piles of post about poor Isobel. I'd like to send a card, but where too? David & Katrina, can you help me here? I'd like to say something else, but my brain is numb since I wrote a long letter all last night and only got to sleep at 4. I'll have another quick look to see if there's anything mildly interesting to comment on... There is. I've got the address to send stuff to, ta, but It's better to say for everyone else. Nah, interesting stuff, but nothing to say. I'm sorry this mail has been a waste of your time but, there you go, without the occasional lemmon the cherries dont taste so sweet. XXXXXXXX WeeJay James at twopounds.u-net.com Manipulating you illicitly since 1979 http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From luvera at xxx.com Mon Oct 26 11:03:19 1998 From: luvera at xxx.com (anthony luvera) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 03:03:19 PST Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe sinister Message-ID: <19981026110319.11574.qmail@hotmail.com> unsubscribe sinister ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From heinitz at xxx.net Mon Oct 26 10:57:17 1998 From: heinitz at xxx.net (Heinitz) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 98 10:57:17 GMT Subject: Sinister: Monday Pome time Message-ID: <981026105717.n0001741.heinitz@mail.clara.net> oh, how much sadness is here... i do feel for all of you, it's horrible to build your hopes up so much and then - nothing. i hope you are in a mood to read a poem, because i have one. it's by a man called Donald Davie, and it's called "Barnsley & District". i hope it goes some way to comfort everybody who's feeling low. Judy Sugden! Judy, I made you caper With rage when I said that the British Fascist Sheet your father sold was a jolly good paper And you had agreed and I said, Yes, it holds Vinegar, and everyone laughed and imagined The feel of the fish and chips warm in its folds. That was at Hood Green. Under our feet there shone The modest view, its slagheaps amethyst In distance and white walls the sunshine flashed on. If your father's friends had succeeded, or if I Had canvassed harder for the Peace Pledge Union, A world of difference might have leapt to the eye In a scene like this which shows in fact no change. That must have been the summer of '39. Yet I go back sometimes, and find nothing strange - Short circuiting of politics engages The Grammar School masters still. Their bright sixthformers sport Nuclear Disarmament badges. And though at Stainborough no bird's-nesting boy Nor trespasser from the town in a sunday suit Nor father twirling a stick can now enjoy Meeting old Captain Wentworth, in his grey And ancient tweeds, gun under arm, keen-eyed And unemployable, and get a gruff Good-day, His rhododendrons and his laurel hedge And tussocked acres are not more unkempt Now that the Hall is a Teachers' Training College. The parish primary school where a mistress once Had every little Dissenter stand on the bench With hands on head, to make him out a dunce; Blank backs of flourmills, wafer-rusted railings Where I ran and ran from colliers' boys in jerseys, Wearing a blouse to show my finer feelings - These still stand. And Bethel and Zion Baptist, Sootblack on pavements where the miners' spittle Starred flattened kerb and greasy flag, persist. George Arliss was on at the Star, and Janet Gaynor Billed at the Alhambra, but the warmth Was no more real then, nor the manners plainer. And politics has no landscape. The Silesian Seam crops out in prospects felt as deeply As any of these, with as much or as little reason. also, my thoughts are with the band (so what's new?), especially our dear isobel. hope she gets better soon. much love, abi x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From WarranderJ at xxx.uk Mon Oct 26 11:40:00 1998 From: WarranderJ at xxx.uk (Warrander John - FML) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:40:00 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Black Friday Message-ID: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B00426186@gateway.finnigan.co.uk> Hello All, Oh dear. Sinister-land hasn't been an entirely happy place over the weekend. But at least it's nice to see some people have shined in the face of adversity. Petula said: >Toronto's cancelled, but come out anyhow What a great attitude. I said she was a nice girl. And I was right. Lots of other people also showed more concern for Isobel than their own unfortunate predicament and I think that rules. FunkySeb mentioned the following: >'I once bit into a mouse's head and found a bar of chocolate. >How odd is that?' Mr Paul Merton said this on British TV at about 10.47pm on Friday night. It's a funny quip concerning a newspaper article about a woman who bit into a bar of chocolate and found a mouse's head. It was delivered in a deadpan fashion and was quite amusing. Just thought I'd clear that up for non-UK listees. Earlier in the evening British popkids had their weekly dose of Top Of The Pops and, surprisingly, the star of the show was none other than Mr Georgy "Porgy" Michael. Not only did he try and become Isaac Hayes for the first 20 seconds of the song, he then proceeded to camp it up in a tight police uniform with some lovely ladies who managed to lose their shirts during the course of the video. The one mistake was the re-emergence of that crap 80s haircut he had in the days of Wham. The video was actually too raunchy to be showed in its entirety that early and was going to be shown at midnight or something on Saturday. But I missed it. Bugger. Great stuff though. Later in the evening Eurotrash also had a Spanish bloke called Josmar on who was the unofficial Catalan entry for the Eurovision song contest and he danced around in a pouch, flapping his buttocks at anybody who would look. His speciality was singing about tampons which apparently makes him a hit with the ladies in Spain. Doesn't TV rule? Anyway, Alex McFerguson was a tad vague with the comment: >at least two of our party seemed quite upset when they cut one >scene just as Christina was getting out of the bath. Just to clear things up. I wasn't one of the two. Maybe Robin was though... Robin Stout said: >I was going to speak to the girl, but I'd been grinning inanely at >her t-shirt for quite a while and I think she thought I was looking >at her boobs, so I just smiled. I don't think smiling was the right thing to do Robin. As you get older though, you'll realise that all real men spend most of their lives staring at women's boobs (well, apart from the ones with no willys who just stare at other blokes crotches). It's nothing to be ashamed of and should probably be encouraged. You get a special praise award for using the word "boobs" though, which is in fact my favourite word in the whole English language. Closely followed by Barbara Windsor. Love...John PS A warning for anybody tentatively dipping their toes into the world of Northern Soul. After a "mammoth" record fair in Manchester at the weekend I think I can safely report without contradiction that all Northern Soul fans have hygiene problems and do in fact smell. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eculb at xxx.uk Mon Oct 26 12:39:39 1998 From: eculb at xxx.uk (JaMeS) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:39:39 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Any Live Bootlegs Please??? Message-ID: Hello there fellow Belleandsebastianites, Please please please does anyone have any tapes of the Manchester Town hall gig on Sunday Evening 27th(?) December 1997 or the recent Shepherd's Bush Empire gig on the 7th September 1998? Am willing to sacrifice my own mother to get copies of these gigs. I can offer copies of the stuff I have: I picked up a bootleg Tigermilk CD with 8 bonus tracks on it-the 2 Radcliffe sessions they did, including Dog on Wheels, The State I'm In, Judy, Like Dylan, I could be dreaming, seeing other people (slow version), We rule the school, and modern rock song. Ive also got the 4 songs from the last session as far as i know (llpj,seymour stein,slow graffitti,sleep the clock around), and the Christmas Show they did for Radio Scotland last year ( though Im missing the start with Isobel-can anyone help me here??). emails please, ...JaMeS... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Mon Oct 26 13:10:09 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:10:09 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: Arab Strap enquiry In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This message was mostly composed on Friday but I forgot to send it. What a weekend. Poor darling Isobel. This just confirms what I always thought: antibiotics are evil. Apparently Cerys from Catatonia recently proclaimed that we should all lick our kitchen floors and we'd never be ill. A bit extreme, but I agree with the sentiment. Maybe this was why Lazy Line Painter Jane was licking railings? To boost her immune system, and the thrush was a tragic side effect. Re. staring at girl's boobs: i had a bit of a trauma on friday night when someone i considered one of my best friends and a thoroughly sweet bloke admitted that HE STARES AT GIRLS BOOBS WHEN TALKING TO THEM AND NOT THEIR FACES. INCLUDING MINE! i never noticed. so naive. sigh. another one bites the dust. he's still sweet, obviously, but a bit rude too. Friday's bit: On Thu, 22 Oct 1998, Mark Iles wrote: > > Maybe I'm just a little too innocent or just plain confused, but if this > ring is down at the base of the penis, then how does it get anywhere near > the clitoris? This occurred to me too. And I was also confused by 'this ring is placed lower than is natural'. Where, pray, on the penis *would* it be natural to position a smooth steel ring? Perhaps any interested/baffled listees could all meet up one night and learn together... Someone asked about a dog on wheels. I don't know where you can get one now, but a very good friend of mine inexplicably acquired one (a sort of hybrid between a tricycle and a rocking horse, only it was a dog) at a party (I think he stole it from the drama society - don't know why they had it) and spent the whole night dancing drunkenly with it, shouting 'look, it's my dog on wheels! Look!' and eventually smothering it in sloppy kisses. He looked very silly so perhaps it's best to avoid getting hold of one. Ooh, and Just a modern rock song SO IS a winter song. Yes! I never thought of it before but yes! I guess Fox In The Snow is an obvious one too. making free with my lewd and lascivious boasts, archel xxxxx> > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Mon Oct 26 13:27:41 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:27:41 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: good things Message-ID: I'm very proud of you lot. I think they call this "courage in the face of adversity", and I'm sitting up in bed here with my fluffy toys (one, interestingly enough, sent by a Fluffy familiar to you all) being quietly smug about how much better a place this mailing list is to be most of the time than any other I've been on. Viz my recent mail to the indiepop list which some of you might have seen today, and which you are at liberty to take as a rousing defence of you all and a routing of the sometimes unsmiling infidels (or a shameful defeat, depending on whether I get trounced or didn't notice that my trousers were undone). Nearly without exception, I'm very impressed how people kept their humour and goodwill about the gigs; I know some of you travelled a long way and spent a fair wodge of your cash, never mind hopes, on something that didn't happen. I'm rubbing poor wee Isobel's tummy metaphorically as we speak and hoping she gets better quick. And for those for whom the disappointment was too much, and well, lashed out for a minute, well it's understandable too I guess, but I'm glad there are others here who can speak for what to me seems like the wider picture. Starting this list one afternoon when I was bored often strikes me as the best thing I did in the last 10 years, and that's because of you lot, because I can tell you it was a "what-if..?", thursday-afternoon, idle-musing sort of decision on my part, but look what happened. So, jelly and ice-cream for tea, and you can stay up late to watch Starsky and Hutch(footnote 1) when I get better. Which won't be for a little bit, so sorry about all the unsubscribes to the list, which I normally stop and deal with myself, but tell them about the Queen Mum and the goose from the WWW site if you want. These emails are a bit of an effort ("why bother then??" I hear them cry from the stalls) so I'm not doing much list admin just now. So not much smut here, and I know there's nothing in the list rules to say smut is encouraged, but don't let that put you off because I think I like the kind of smut you all like. Doctor, give me another smut injection, I think it's making me better. Talking of smut, I'll be cheeky and also use this space to thank Damon for sending me the phone numbers of the Washington football team and cheerleader squad (I'm easy) who will hopefully pop round and get all those muscles working again that have been a bit dormant recently when I'm finally up and about. And to Kevan, who thinks of the mind and not the body, and sent me a Winnie The Pooh ink pad set. You, sirs, are gentlemen and you leave a poor shapeshifting girl with the vapours a little flushed. Honey xxx (1) That was a small plug for Peter Miller's latest artistic creation, see it now on the Mummy WWW page on the Sinister site. It doesn't contain any smut, although I know from a private communication that he was very much a Hutch crush rather than a Starsky tart. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Mon Oct 26 13:53:19 1998 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:53:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: delgados Message-ID: <36347ECF.19A0AC21@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Hi everyone, the last saturday ( 3 days ago) i went with my girlfriend at delgados's gig. It was excellent , they play very well live. After the concert i interviwed Emma Pollock and her boyfriend ( percussion player) , i interviewed theirs coz i collaborate in a radio . It was very interesting , Emma told me that they live in Scotland , so i asked her if they are friend with B&S and other scottish band ( like mogwai.....). She told me that they know all the band , is like a circle , but they don't collaborate together. She also told me that is easy to meet one component of some scottish band in a pub (B&S,too) , and when that happen they drink a beer together. It was a night to remember . Waiting for B&S gig , in Italy. Marco#7. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Kbierfelt at xxx.org Mon Oct 26 13:57:00 1998 From: Kbierfelt at xxx.org (Kristin Bierfelt (MFA)) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 08:57:00 -0500 Subject: Sinister: philly show, 2 more cents Message-ID: here's me, getting into a yelling match with some abercrombie upenn boy in the balcony who kept yelling JUST ONE SONG!!! because OBVIOUSLY if just one song were going to happen, they'd have done it and not come out and made that announcement. like one asshole's going to yell just one song and the band is going to look at each other and go, uh, hey, we never thought of THAT!! i'm just sorry that there were a lot of people who couldn't deal with their disappointment better. ok, so here's me, being really apologetic for the rudeness of the crowd. here's me, really terribly disappointed, but *trying* to act like a grown up about it. ugh. i'd be thrilled if they came back and did philly and toronto at the end of the tour, but the idea of driving 7 hours to see them again is almost too depressing to bear. pennsylvania is always nice in my memories, but when i get back there... ugh. better show anecdotes: my boyfriend and i ate at the south east, right across the street from the troc, and there were these 5 or 6 youngish kids, real loud, and a girl talking about how when she saw r.e.m. she almost came just from seeing him sing. "how could you not?" really funny and completely inappropriate conversation. actually, i found her really annoying. so who was the guy who had the really long red hair and the flowers? i saw you from the balcony and thought i remembered some sinisterite saying that they looked like that. gotta unsubscribe before i get fired. :) xo Kris +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jj at xxx.com Mon Oct 26 13:53:56 1998 From: jj at xxx.com (jj) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 08:53:56 -0500 Subject: Sinister: toronto ink polaroid etc... Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981026085356.009419c0@mail.si.umich.edu> here's one of jj and celia, both very tipsy, grinning and laughing, clutching the bottle of champagne they were just handed for winning the dance contest at the duke of glouchester's northern soul night. endurance, rather than talent, must have been the determining factor in this contest - after their table was removed to make more room for the dance floor, they had no place to sit and therefore no choice but to spend the entire rest of the evening dancing non-stop. (the fact the djs had had learned that they had driven all the way from michigan probably didn't hurt either.) unfortunately lovely elisa isn't in this shot as she had to leave early to head to the airport to pick up tag (who probably would've won the contest had he not missed his earlier flight). - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - all in all, belle&sebastian's cancellation didn't stop me from having one of the most fun weekends i've had in ages. toronto is a great city and i'm really amazed i haven't been up there before considering the drive is no longer than driving to chicago and i do that all the time. i found a kid loco lp (abstract blues) that i couldn't find anywhere here, had one of the best sandwiches i've ever had (baked brie, tomato, fresh herbs on supersoft marbled rye - *yum!* and super cheap too - gotta love that canadian dollar!), wandered around exploring with friends, met up with some sinisterians at the public library pub, and got to hang out with elisa again for the first time a couple years - many thanks to her and her excellent tour guide skills (both in person and via email). the only downside to the weekend was the hangover on sunday morning (when will i learn that i'm getting too old to drink the way i did when i was 22?) and having to come home for school instead of getting to stay and play for a few more days. oh yeah, and not making it to vortex records. well i guess it just means i have go back again soon *grin* i'm sad that the show didn't happen, but hey, i'll see them one of these days. i was hoping to be able to drive to chicago tonight but unfortunately, the responsibilities of school are getting in the way (darn group projects!) so i hope everyone has a great time and sends lots of reviews in so i can live vicariously. and if anyone records any of the shows and wants to make me a copy, i'll be much appreciative! xojj * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * fantastic po box 4492 ann arbor mi 48106 usa http://www.fantasticpop.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Mon Oct 26 16:00:23 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:00:23 Subject: Sinister: Arab Strap enquiry Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981026160023.2caf6b36@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Archel deals with the famous arab straps : >This occurred to me too. And I was also confused by 'this ring is >placed lower than is natural'. Where, pray, on the penis *would* it be >natural to position a smooth steel ring? > >Perhaps any interested/baffled listees could all meet up one night >and learn together... > Archel, don't you understand why the wee listees organize meet-ups and picnics ? We frenchies are supposed to now everything about love and sex but I confess that some details remain obscure. Why do you call them arab strap ? Why arab ? Is it because they were made for horses, arab horses ? Anyway, french men don't need arab straps. We don't even have a french word to call them! Philippe, french man, by the way PS : if someone organizes a special night, let me know :) PS : no need to reply that frenchies are pretentious. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Mon Oct 26 16:45:34 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:45:34 Subject: Sinister: Photos of Belle and Sebastian Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981026164534.216f382a@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Hi all, There is no sex in this post. Those who were not at the radio session in Paris - the famous Black Session - will be happy to look at the beautiful black and white photos taken by my pal Laurent. He's just added new ones! So, if you wanna see how Isobel looks like when she plays the cello and when she sings, or if you prefer Stuart Murdoch or another bandmate, just visit Laurent Orseau's web site : http://lorseau.citeweb.net/isession.htm Twelve photos of our favourite band are waiting for your eyes, but you can also find photos from other black sessions (The Delgados, The Divine Comedy, PJ Harvey...). And if you wanna get a tape of the session, go and read my posts in the archives to see where you can ask for a copy. Staring at Bel's eyes does not hurt... Philippe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Neak3434 at xxx.com Mon Oct 26 14:55:28 1998 From: Neak3434 at xxx.com (Neak3434 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:55:28 EST Subject: Sinister: (no subject) Message-ID: <64b5c0ab.36348d60@aol.com> unsubscribe sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Scott_Turner at xxx.COM Mon Oct 26 15:46:15 1998 From: Scott_Turner at xxx.COM (Scott Turner) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:46:15 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Re: philly reflection Message-ID: <852566A9.005532D5.00@JHMAIL.JH.COM> After just recently coming off of a flu and stomach virus that had me incompacitated for two weeks straight, i can understand the trauma that Isobel was going through. and, I love B&S because they, to me, represent the misplaced daydreamers that are so removed from the all the manly preparedness/properness/organization/ forethought/capitalism/hypermaturity/etc/etc of the fuctional mature powerlusting heterosexual culture. I love them because i am one of those misplaced daydreamers that they sing about. But with that said, I really wish just one of them would have had an ounce of mature leadership in their personalities and would have said, hey, lets go on tonight anyway, lets at least play these five songs. or I really wish Isobel, while she was blowing her cookies, would have said, I really want you to go on without me and do a handful of songs- please, for them.... I mean, after the first bloke came on and said someone wasn't feeling well, I was 98% sure that they were then going to cancel because of the nature of who they are, but three days later, i am still SO disappointed that no one had the leadership skill to have moved the band in the direction of the stage. "I'm sorry" still ringing in my head, .scott +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alerche at xxx.net Mon Oct 26 15:50:09 1998 From: alerche at xxx.net (Andre Vieira) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:50:09 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Shag albums In-Reply-To: <199810231011.LAA15027@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981026165009.0068a59c@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net> Then Neil Dewhurst wrote: >After months of careful persuasion I finally persuaded my girlfiriend to >listen to Moon Safari, by Air. After listening to it for ten minutes or so, >in her usual sensitive vein she cried out - "it's a shag album. It's >nothing but a shag album." At first I was offended that she took this >outrageously promiscuous viewpoint, but as the album moved on she proved her >theory to be a very good one, so I had a smoke and wondered if I had the >energy to get up and press the repeat button. I've also got "Moon Safari" and I must say Neil's comments are very very true. This is doubtless a shag album, and one of the finest. Other great shag albums are Jesus and Mary Chain's "Stoned and Dethroned", Björk's "Unplugged", and Portishead's "Dummy" (perfect for chemically-accompained shags). This weekend I gladly discovered the shag-soundtrack virtues of Spiritualized's "Lazer Guided Melodies". I was impressed (and so was she). On the next morning we followed Kris' suggestion of B&S for the "early morning, sleepy, oh-hey-all-of-a-sudden-we're-having-sex sex". My album coice was TWATTYBUS and it worked pretty well, although the lyrics distracted me at certain points, making me lose my concentration. Can anyone help me put together a Top Ten Shag Albums? Suggetions for different atmospheres and partners are welcome. Ah, the smut. Andre. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From goon_koch at xxx.com Mon Oct 26 16:00:18 1998 From: goon_koch at xxx.com (Goon Koch) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 08:00:18 PST Subject: Sinister: philly phrustration, the domestics, toronto pub ignoramus Message-ID: <19981026160023.591.qmail@hotmail.com> i had such a great time this weekend that there is not even an ounce of bitter feelings about the cancellation. everything else was perfect. i picked up my tigermilk tape from the post office on my way into philly, so i heard it for the very first time on my way the show (thankyouthankyou, you know who you are). the weather was great, so waiting outside for two hours was nothing like the tortuous ordeal i had expected. my sister's bus didn't get stuck in traffic, she made it on time and she met me waiting in line exactly as planned. i got blue shirts, in XL, no less. i spent the small hours communing with wonderful sinisterines. i've got nothing to complain about. it was nice to see the outpouring of goodwill, but i can also understand the bitterness of those who invested so much. if you weren't frustrated and disappointed, there is something wrong with you, but these feelings are not really directed at the band. bad things happen to good people. i was there, but i didn't have to drive five hours and the episode is not putting me in risk of coming up short for the rent. i also have a new york ticket, so i have another chance, for which i'm very grateful. we cannot judge the band because we don't know what went on behind the scenes, but we might suggest, for future reference, that anything would have been better than nothing. a lovely alternative would have been a performance by the "domestics." that would be mr. kitchen and ms. house who are at home while belle and sebastian are touring the wild west. scheduled for release on jeepster next month: the "apron" ep, thirty minutes of katrina hoovering and david clinking glassware in the sink. killer stuff, i hear. it is easy to be forgiving and magnanimous if you weren't at the show and heard about the cancellation via an email. also, if you're condemning negativity and selfish behavior on this list, you're just preaching to the choir. i doubt that the perpetrators of boorish behavior and reprehensible demands in the trocadero crowd are on this list. oh, yes. i will be in downtown toronto tuesday and wednesday and was wondering if anyone could tell me about an interesting pub or where the good record shops are. hopefully, i will in a mood to celebrate a significant victory in my kafkaesque dealings with the u.s. immigration machine. where is this public library bar? where is there a shop with a proper selection of indiepop records? any advice would be appreciated. -goon k.- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.Thew at xxx.com Mon Oct 26 16:04:23 1998 From: Sarah.Thew at xxx.com (Thew Sarah) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:04:23 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Dog on Wheels Message-ID: Well, I thought I'd share with you that when I was about 5 I had a toy dog on wheels. It was brown with big black ears, with red wheels and a handle to push it round by. I remember thinking it was brilliant at the time, but looking back it sounds a bit rubbish. Sarahx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From janine at xxx.com Mon Oct 26 16:32:38 1998 From: janine at xxx.com (Janine Papp) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:32:38 -0500 Subject: Sinister: sigh Message-ID: ok I have to share with you all the lovliest compiment I received the other day: "You have beautiful hands, they're just like the girl who plays cello in Belle and Sebastian." :) queen bee janine +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rmckay at xxx.edu Mon Oct 26 16:38:20 1998 From: rmckay at xxx.edu (baggy trousers) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:38:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: to spend and evening in athens would be divine Message-ID: well here is hoping that everything goes well and the show does go on. i am hoping that my friend and i make it there in good time...i am up for any meeting, even sushi...(i wont be eating anyways,because of my nerves i dont eat before concerts..not a wise idea,indeed!) i will be the one tooling around athens in a white vw jetta with stickers all over the windows ( a high number of them being smiths one) ive got a big smiths one across the front widshield and have a st andrews plate on the front... dont hesitate to yell things..but please, make them kind :) keeping my fingers crossed and my spirits high, roberta **oh you look so tired + "Rock'n'roll is the most brutal, mouth slack and wide + ugly, vicious form of expression - ill-housed and ill-advised + sly, lewd, in fact plain dirty..a your face is as mean as + rancid-smelling aphrodisiac..the your life has been + martial music of every delinquent crash into my arms + on the face of the earth..." i want you****** + -'jack the ripper' (morrissey) + -Frank Sinatra 1957 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Mon Oct 26 16:50:38 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:50:38 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: philly phrustration, the domestics, toronto pub ignoramus In-Reply-To: <19981026160023.591.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, Goon Koch wrote: > it is easy to be forgiving and magnanimous if you weren't at the show > and heard about the cancellation via an email. I thought a lot of the magnaminous response to all this WAS from people who'd travelled a long way? That's really what I meant. I can think of at least two mails in that category, and from memory a lot more, all people I would now pull from a burning car if I wasn't a coward. Having said that of course, if it'd been me travelling all that way, I'd have cried like a baby and be still sulking now. So please don't think I'm saying no-one should have a gob on. I'm just pleased other people are more grown-up than me, it makes me feel secure :) I must say though Scott, I've always preferred caring for those you love above leadership skills and sometimes you have to make hard decisions in upsetting circumstances that leave you open to criticism later. I had a bit much of the leadership skills from Mrs Thatcher. Just a comment. honey x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Scott_Turner at xxx.COM Mon Oct 26 17:20:46 1998 From: Scott_Turner at xxx.COM (Scott Turner) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:20:46 -0500 Subject: Sinister: philly phrustration, the domestics, toronto pub ignoramus Message-ID: <852566A9.005D9489.00@JHMAIL.JH.COM> "I must say though Scott, I've always preferred caring for those you love above leadership skills and sometimes you have to make hard decisions in upsetting circumstances that leave you open to criticism later. I had a bit much of the leadership skills from Mrs Thatcher. Just a comment. honey x" _________________________________ oh, i whole-heartedly agree with you. I wrote that assuming that isobel had the same thing that i had for two weeks- in which i had people i loved care for me alot, while also they were also able to attend to the other responsibilities in their lives. Thats all i was trying to say. And I'm also talking from behind a foggy glass of not-knowing just how bad isobel was when they made their decision- If it was something alot more urgent for care and attendance to her health than I definitely think they were in the right for cancelling- maybe i'm just relating her flu/ virus experience too much to the one I had just gotten over in philly, where i felt like pure hell in a toilet, but knowing it was the flu, didn't feel the same urgency that maybe she did, having the allergy(?) to it and all. Do you rememeber my disclaimer at the top of the email- I'm sorry if you thought i was being some general patton type of guy or something- i was really talking about the complexity of care and responsibilities that I was guessing were there in the situation. I'm talking about a care and love also that extends beyond the mircocosm of the members of the band... to us (and, please, give me some credit, i'm not saying we are more important than her health), and again, I don't know all the details of the extent of her illness. I'm just trying to open up the complexity of repsonsibility of the situation, and am not trying to oppose care and some Thatcherite expression of leadership. sincerely .scott +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mgillen at xxx.ca Mon Oct 26 17:26:31 1998 From: mgillen at xxx.ca (Girl in the snow) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:26:31 -0500 Subject: Sinister: RE:Dog on Wheels Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981026122631.007ac880@scimail.uwaterloo.ca> I had a dog on wheels toy when I was little too. It was by Fisher Price. You pulled it around with a long plastic string and it made a yapping noise. I think it was the noise that made it such a fun toy. Kind of like the fun and wonderful noise of B&S. Only I'm beginning to think I will never hear it live. The word out on the street is that they won't be re-scheduling the TO show. Bye, A very sad girl in the snow +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tangent at xxx.net Mon Oct 26 16:45:30 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:45:30 +0000 Subject: Sinister: black sessions and things References: <90a13e39.3622cdf9@aol.com> Message-ID: <3634A72A.5880DCFE@lineone.net> hey kids, i'm not subbed at the moment i'm afraid - just too many things to do it seems - but i just wanted to say a couple of things: one, does anyone want a copy of the Black Sessions? i've had like one request, which seems weird... i hope it's not all falling on the other uK tapers' shoulders. Who was that again? my memory is shot. Anyway, thanks to phillipe for organising that... the session sounds great. Anyone who wants a copy email me please, not the list. In more news: sad to hear that Isobel was unwell and that some people therefore didn't get to see the band play. Sad all round :-( I hope that the copy of the book i am sending her, and the band, cheers her, and them up. Somehow i doubt it will, but what the heck. Can anyone guess what book i'm sending? Answers on a postcard (record sleeve) to the usual addresses. Peter Miller's will do. Yes, anyone who was and is still interested, my book finally came from the printers and binders. in a strange quirk of coincidence, some pupils of mine who were on work experience were involved in the binding... thankfully all the pages seem to be in the correct order. Sorry if this sounds like an advert, i just know that a few listees asked that i tell them when it came out, and i lost their addresses, and erm, sorry... The Mercury Rev record is lovely. To those of you who remember the Lovin' Spoonful wars: i met up with the war crimes perpetrator last week in an Exeter bar. Budvar was exchanged, and whilst there was a degree of intolerance on my part at mention of radiohead and oasis, a cease fire was signed. Actually, Jonathan and i had a fine time and plan to do it all again soon. But without the radiohead and oasis talk, naturally... i have to go and write about mailing lists now. what joy. keep the faith kids, the duke -- 'all of our dreams are dying of overdoses' Tangents On-Line http://www.tangents.co.uk PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iamnot at xxx.org Mon Oct 26 13:43:38 1998 From: iamnot at xxx.org (Fill in name here) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 08:43:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Black Friday In-Reply-To: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B00426186@gateway.finnigan.co.uk> Message-ID: > for using the word "boobs" though, which is in fact my favourite word > in the whole English language. Closely followed by Barbara Windsor. So is your list 1. Boobs 2. Barbara 3. Windsor Or does Barbara Windsor count as 1 word? And if so what is your third fav word? Curious Iain +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Mon Oct 26 17:13:15 1998 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:13:15 -0700 Subject: Sinister: I turned down dinner with Bernard Hill! Message-ID: Hi all, Did anyone else in the UK watch the documentary about Brigitte Bardot at the weekend? Imagine if someone you had regarded as a close friend for thirty years started hanging out with the National Front and making sweeping statements condemning Arab immigrants. There's a lot of sadness in Sinisterland at the moment, but none of it can compare to the look on Jane Birkin's face when she was talking about Brigitte's recently adopted views. On a lighter note Michael Barrett made a suggestion involving myself and a one eyed milkman. This suggestion is entirely unfounded, and I buy my milk from Sainsburys anyway. Oh yeah, the Bernard Hill thing. Well, my dad was playing in a celebrities versus ordinary people type charity football match. He was captain of the ordinary people, whilst the celebrity team featured such luminaries as Zammo (from Grange Hill), Karl Howman (from Brush Strokes), and best of all Bernard Hill (star of various Alan Bleasdale things and my favourite actor). There was a post match buffet dinner and my dad asked me if I wanted to go, but it was Sunday afternoon so I had to decline. This was about ten years ago, and back then Sunday afternoons were dedicated to listening to the Top Forty on the radio. Kevan The Fat Slug (Final Score: Ordinary People 2 Celebrities 2) *********************************** chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickclick.com http://www.chickmail.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dagrayson at xxx.edu Mon Oct 26 18:47:47 1998 From: dagrayson at xxx.edu (~Dana~) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:47:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: hello Message-ID: Hi everyone, I am a new member to this list... So I dont really know any of you, but I've been reading for a while : ) I was actually wondering if anyone was going to the NYC show, because a friend of mine and I are deperately trying to get tickets. I know this is a seemingly hopeless cause, but I figured I'd ask. Anyhow, sorry to bother love dana +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Niceaction at xxx.com Mon Oct 26 19:20:26 1998 From: Niceaction at xxx.com (Niceaction at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:20:26 EST Subject: Sinister: TWATTYBUS playing in stores !! Message-ID: <7b6786b6.3634cb7a@aol.com> Evening all :o) Just thought i would give a quick story of how i was in my local "borders" store in Brighton, and, over the stereo comes TWATTYBUS.. Well, if you've ever heard B&S over an instore stereo you will know the excitment that came over me. I kept on walking around during "Brilliant Career" hoping to spot the employee who looks most like a B&S fan. I was just so excited !! So...... I looked around for where the speakers were, and positioned myself on a reading bench directly below a speaker. That is where I started to sign. Now, i havent got a bad voice, but its nothing like Mad Dogs. To cover my embarasment from all the people walking past, i looked around for a book, i was in the History section, so i decided on "The History of Tibet" I opened it up and looked at the words rather than read them, and continued to sing. Then, whilst BWTAS was on, a middle aged woman came up to me and started to laugh and said "Hey, cool, another Belle & Sebastian fan". She then left me to keep singing. Jamie xx Is-ob-bel she's so swell she had the flu but now she's well.!! (Well, almost) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From heinitz at xxx.net Mon Oct 26 19:26:36 1998 From: heinitz at xxx.net (Heinitz) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 98 19:26:36 GMT Subject: Sinister: the parrot picks gary Message-ID: <981026192636.n0001749.heinitz@mail.clara.net> silly, foolish me forgot to tell you who the poetry parrot will be visiting next. well, he fancies a spell in the company of an "(EX!!) el hombre del mullet and ex-Alarm afficiando", so Gary Done, get your crackers out (matron). smiles, abi x and remember, kids, dedication is what you need if you wanna be a record breaker. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sabin_o at xxx.com Mon Oct 26 21:00:18 1998 From: sabin_o at xxx.com (S. M. O.) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:00:18 GMT Subject: Sinister: Shag Album Message-ID: <19981026210019.20344.qmail@hotmail.com> Ive found the Cure's Disintergration to be quite a sensual mood album when the lights are low, a few candles lit and your comforter and sheets are rolled down. Ive also had fun making out to Patsy Cline. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Mon Oct 26 21:11:31 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:11:31 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Shag Album In-Reply-To: <19981026210019.20344.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: At 16:00 -050026/10/98, S. M. O. wrote: [Ive found the Cure's Disintergration to be quite a sensual mood album [when the lights are low, a few candles lit and your comforter and sheets [are rolled down. [ [Ive also had fun making out to Patsy Cline. hmmm . . . disintegration is that album i put on when i *don't* have anyone to have sex with. but i can certainly imagine making out to patsy cline being fun. just listening to her is fun enough. but, i don't think i could handle listening to disintegration during sex (actually, i listened to that album in years). -kerry "don stepped outside." -slint +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Mon Oct 26 22:01:04 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (JJ) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 22:01:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: let's all build a Dyson sphere References: <7b6786b6.3634cb7a@aol.com> Message-ID: <3634F120.504D@seahouses.u-net.com> Nicewristaction at aol.com wrote: > Just thought i would give a quick story of how i was in my local "borders" > store in Brighton, and, over the stereo comes TWATTYBUS.. That'd probably be Howling Mad Mandy Bergmann, ex of this list, playing that, cos she works there now doesn't she? > Then, whilst BWTAS was on, a middle aged woman came up to me and started to > laugh and said "Hey, cool, another Belle & Sebastian fan". Middle ages? She's only about 20..guess that's what working for Borders does to you. JJ xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iamnot at xxx.org Mon Oct 26 18:08:43 1998 From: iamnot at xxx.org (Fill in name here) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:08:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Shag Album In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm single and have no views on this subject.... So...good albums to do stuff to. New Fatboy SLim album is very good. Better than the first I think. Beth Orton is good too. When I go home, I'm going to have an attempt to ween my sister off Alanis Morrisete and onto slightly better stuff. Oh and Kerry Is ent you the wrong picture that night you want a copy of the proper one? iain +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mgilham at xxx.edu Mon Oct 26 22:29:45 1998 From: mgilham at xxx.edu (Michael H Gilham) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:29:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Cinerama's NA debut In-Reply-To: <3632DF4D.27CD@interaccess.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 25 Oct 1998, It's me! wrote: > Dave wrote: > > > > someone asked about cinerama -- not bad, musically not that > > far from the weddoes which was to be expected i guess, i don't > > have their album but i think they essentially played most of it. > > (also said this was their 2nd gig ever...can that be true?) > It was their 2nd show _in the USA_. Sorry, but The Trocadero was CINERAMA's first gig in the US, and, indeed, their 2nd gig ever! The first gig took place a few mos. ago: a free affair at the Camden Falcon. Their debut gig was supposed to have been at the Phoenix festival, but, as some already are aware, the festival was cancelled .... best, --Michael +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kebaer at xxx.edu Mon Oct 26 22:40:23 1998 From: kebaer at xxx.edu (Kara Baer) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:40:23 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Re: philly reflection Message-ID: Greetings lovely people, I too am feeling sad and disapointed over the cancelation, but I got to spend the weekend with my dear friend Beth...so I'm not feeling too bitter. We were too downhearted to make the aftershow party, though. I'm glad so many of you had fun and I hope the Chicago Show goes off allright. I guess it's a trade off between what we owe the band and what the band owes us. Is it art without an audience? I just bought the Dylan "Live '66"..WOW! It's amazing. Together Dylan and his hositle admirers create something neither expected. Re the shag album: I'd have to put my vote in for this glossy compilation album called "Pure Funk" advertised on TV here in the US...nothin' like gettin' down and dirty with "Lady Marmalade," "Theme from Shaft," and "Flashlight." Love Kara "She 'Come on, Joe. You wanna give it a go?" --from Lady Maramlade I hope to see everyone in DC!! and get well wishes to Isobel. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Crow2343 at xxx.com Mon Oct 26 23:13:14 1998 From: Crow2343 at xxx.com (Crow2343 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:13:14 EST Subject: Sinister: belle & sebastian. Message-ID: <5013a5be.3635020a@aol.com> hiya. i'm new to the list. i just wanted to express my disappointment in attending the philadelphia show but i am glad to hear that isobelle is in high spirits again. also, some members of the crowd were *very* cruel to chris though i must say that the drunk guy in the balcony who spelled out words using his arms and body in cheerleader form and later poured a cup of beer and smashed said cup upon his forehead certainly gave us something to talk about while we awaited the news. i'll also be going (or attempting to go to) the washington d.c. gig. is anyone else making the trek from afar? lv, -dannyb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From barzy at xxx.com Mon Oct 26 23:32:22 1998 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:32:22 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Shag Album(s) Message-ID: >Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:28:07 -0800 >To:sinister at .ph.ed.ac.uk >From:barzy at networkmags.com (Madame Cholet) >Subject:Re: Sinister: Shag Album(s) > >>I'm single and have no views on this subject.... >>So...good albums to do stuff to. >>New Fatboy SLim album is very good. Better than the first I think. Beth >>Orton is good too. When I go home, I'm going to have an attempt to ween my >>sister off Alanis Morrisete and onto slightly better stuff. > >My friend Amy M. tells me that the last Mojave 3 lp is quite nice for that >sort of thing...as well as "The Comforts Of Madness" by Pale Saints. What >else did she suggest ..oh yes....Velvet Underground and related things as >well.. > > >beth > > >I locked my keys in my car this morning....and it was still running. I >simply got out and shut the door. I think aliens gave me a labotomy last >night in my sleep. > >crumbs. > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mwsnyder at xxx.edu Mon Oct 26 23:47:52 1998 From: mwsnyder at xxx.edu (matthew william snyder) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:47:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: cinerama at the troc Message-ID: <199810262347.SAA00438@red.seas.upenn.edu> | > It was their 2nd show _in the USA_. | | Sorry, but The Trocadero was CINERAMA's first gig in the US, and, indeed, | their 2nd gig ever! The first gig took place a few mos. ago: a free | affair at the Camden Falcon. | Their debut gig was supposed to have been at the Phoenix festival, | but, as some already are aware, the festival was cancelled .... | well, some of you may remember that i had pretty harshly criticized the debut cinerama album, and was told to give them a chance at the concert. which i did. and they were better than i expected, but not much. my main complaint was that there were 6 of them on stage, and they sounded like 3. i don't think it was the fault of the sound guy, because i was standing right next to the sound booth and was hearing the mix the same way he was, and i would think that he would have fixed the problem if he could have. they were pleasant enough, but watching david's guitar playing, i noticed that most of the songs have the same chords in different orders, and really simple keyboard parts, so they all come off sounding pretty much the same. the best song was one of the last ones they did, when there was a pretty flute part. it's just that when you have 6 people on stage, the possibilities for song variation are pretty great, and they just didn't grasp that. i guess i am the last philly attendee to post his or her thoughts, and much of what i would have said has already been said. no one mentioned, though, the audience member who shouted "This is pish!" when chris made his announcement. who are you? come on, fess up. the post-show party went fairly well, but the atmosphere felt more funereal than festive. julie's retarded kitten is a neverending source of amusement. thanks for all that showed up and a special thanks to those who brought food. matthew, hoping that the philly show will be rescheduled. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Tue Oct 27 00:22:51 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:22:51 -0000 Subject: Sinister: RE: sinister-digest V2 #434 In-Reply-To: <199810240558.GAA22265@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000301be013f$ef04f700$470993c3@whelan> -----Original Message----- From: owner-sinister-digest at xxx.net [mailto:owner-sinister-digest at majordomo.net] Sent: 24 October 1998 06:58 To: sinister-digest at majordomo.net Subject: sinister-digest V2 #434 sinister-digest Saturday, October 24 1998 Volume 02 : Number 434 Hi list! Awreet! Tis meee the lovely sarah and I'm at garys and writing from, uuuurrrr, his mail, as you may well gather!!!! And aren't we having a lovely time :) We've been to Burger King, P!R!O!B!E! records, where I boughrt the CORNEILOUS album, and Gary bought the Interpreters single and the Kodiak single, not be to be mistaken for the film people :) Heh heh!!! OOOOOOH! Isn't life fun at timeas! Espedially whjen you cany type asnd you are with one you ljuuuuuve L) ANYWAYS! FunkySeb wrote : So you were in london fluffy? You should have said so earlier.Instead of enduring some shite west end show, you could have gone with me to watch the bungee jumpers in battersea shit themselves, Aye! Mindeed I was! It was PISH an'all. I wish I had beeen able to have a fun time in your no doubt luvvverly hangoooooots, but I was enslaved by the bonds of family, and thus would have been unable to see you. Honestly, I would have LOVED to meet you London crowd, bjut I could not :( BOO CHIZ CHIZ. STARSAD. Perdro Miller wrote stuff UI was going to reply to as well but I can't find it amongst Garys bloody sdigezt so I can't be arsed finding it and I can't be arsed correctin all my typos either, soo POO OFF SMELLHEADFSA AND DIIIIED why doncha cos I don't give a poo. Well I do really, but hey! I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Sarah :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From IndiaRubb at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 00:37:04 1998 From: IndiaRubb at xxx.com (IndiaRubb at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:37:04 EST Subject: Sinister: Summer Wasting tab Message-ID: <4f8588f9.363515b0@aol.com> A Summer Wasting I think this song is played with a capo on the 2nd fret, that makes the intro/outro the easiest to play. I'll put the basic chords down, and also an alternate, easier way to play them with the capo on (ie no barre chords). Intro/Outro (relative to capo on 2nd fret) e--------0-2--------3-2--------0-2--------9-7-(0)- <--(0) optional for intro b----3----------3----------3----------3-------(3)- <--(3) optional for outro G--2---2------2---2------2---2------2---2--------- D------------------------------------------------- A------------------------------------------------- E------------------------------------------------- (intro played with this part) Summer in winter Winter in springtime You heard the birds sing Everything will be fine F#m B I spent the summer wasting F#m B A The time was passed so easily F#m B But if the summer's wasted F#m B A How come that I could feel so free F#m B I spent the summer wasting F#m B A The sky was blue beyond compare F#m B A photograph of myself F#m B Is all I have to show for E A Seven weeks of river walkways E D Seven weeks of staying up all night F#m B (interlude) I spent the summer wasting The time was passed so pleasantly Say cheerio to books now The only things I'll read are faces 1 spent the summer wasting Under a canopy of E A Seven weeks of reading papers E A Seven weeks of river walkways E A Seven weeks of feeling guilty E D Seven weeks of staying up all night F#m B (interlude) (intro/outro played with this) Summer in winter Winter is springtime You heard the bird say Everything will be fine Chord fingerings with the capo (all are relative to the capo): EADGbe F#m: 022000 B: x02220 A: 320033 E: x00232 D: x32010 so basically, an F#m is played like Em, B like an A, A like a G, etc. I don't know whether they actually play it like this...anyone notice if Stuart M. used a capo for this at one of the shows? Any corrections, etc. send mail to IndiaRubb at aol.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From IndiaRubb at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 00:31:33 1998 From: IndiaRubb at xxx.com (IndiaRubb at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:31:33 EST Subject: Sinister: Ease Your Feet tab Message-ID: Err, I'm gonna send them separately, since some are a bit long. I'm gonna send 3 now, and I just need to polish up my tabs for Ditry Dream #2 and Simple Things. Maybe I'll finish Chickfactor, as well. Ease Your Feet In The Sea Just the basic chords. The guitar doing the more noodley stuff is a bit too random to tab out, though it's all based around the same chords, though the F is done higher up the fretboard (ie as a barre A chord on the 8/10 frets). I think said guitar is capo'd at the 6th fret actually, just to make it easier. I've tabbed out the solo, though. Intro: just F, the little riff you hear goes like this e-------------- b-------------- G-------------- D-------------- A------7-8-7-8- E-8-10--------- F Ease your feet off in the sea A# My darling it's the place to be F Take your shoes off curl your toes A# And I will frame this moment in time F Troubles come and troubles go A# The trouble that we've come to know F Will stay with us till we get old A# C Will stay with us till somebody decides to go A# Decides to go Soberly, without regret, I make another sandwich And I fill my face, I know that things have got to you But what can I do? Suddenly, without a warning On a pale blue morning You decide your time is wearing thin A conscious choice to let yourself go... C dangling Cm Hovering A# It's an emergency A#m There's no more "wait and see" F A# (repeat during the string section bit) Maybe if I shut my eyes Your trouble will be split between us People come and people go You're scouring everybodies face For some small flicker of the truth To what it is that you are going through, my boy I left you dry The signs were clear that you were not going... C anywhere Cm Anywhere A# Save for a falling down A#m Save for a falling down C Anywhere C (not minor, this time) Anywhere A# Save for a falling down G# F# (repeat G# to F# 3 times, then go to F for the rest of the solo) Everything's going wrong Solo: Play this during the above line. Number of hits on a string isn't necessarily exact here, just listen to the song. e------------------------------------------------------------------- b--9-9999-9-9-9-7-7777-7-7-7-9-9999-9-9-9-11--11-11-11-11--11-11-11- G------------------------------------------------------------------- D------------------------------------------------------------------- A------------------------------------------------------------------- E------------------------------------------------------------------- e-------------------------------------------------------------- b--12-12-12-12--11-9-99-7-7-7-7-9-9999-9-9-9-9-9999-7-10-9-7--- G------------------------------------------------------------9- D-------------------------------------------------------------- A-------------------------------------------------------------- E-------------------------------------------------------------- e-------------------------------------------------------------- b-------13--10-10-11--------11-10-10----11--------------------- G--7/10--------------10--10----------10----10-10--------------- D-------------------------------------------------------------- A-------------------------------------------------------7-8---- E--------------------------------------------------8-10-------- Later on, as I walked home The plough was showing, and orion I could see the house where you lived I could see the house where you gave All your time and sanity to people Then you waited for the people to acknowledge you They spoke in turn But their eyes would pass... C over you Cm Over you A# Who's seeing you at all? Who's seeing you at all? Any corrections, etc. send mail to IndiaRubb at aol.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From IndiaRubb at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 00:32:55 1998 From: IndiaRubb at xxx.com (IndiaRubb at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:32:55 EST Subject: Sinister: Brilliant Career chords Message-ID: It Could Have Been A Brilliant Career Just the basic chords here, nothing difficult. One note, though: where the song hits the "been a brilliant.." part, the bass line changes, but the guitar stays with an A chord. Sounds a bit awkward at first. E A He had a stroke at the age of 24 A E It could have been a brilliant career C#m B A Painting lines in a school that was too well known C#m B A Painting lines with a friend that had gone before F# B She challenged everyone to a fight A E B But the prefects all backed down A E B And they ran her out of town A E B Cause she drank and swore and spoke A E F# Out of turn, she was the village joke (Repeat same for the rest of the song) She had a stroke at the age of 24 It could have been a brilliant career Getting clients to finance her strategies Filling time in on Safeways on Saturday She wears the clothes of an emperor But her paintings are a sham And they're going for a grand When the dealers come to view Do they ever see the real you? He had a stroke at the age of 24 It could have been a brilliant career Selling lies to the boys with the old Dansettes Pulling the wool, playing the fool, it's no wonder that He is dribbling spit tonight And the one he sent away Was the only one who stayed With a spoon and a decent book And you can tell by the way she looks he is sorry and resigned As he wets himself for the final time Any corrections, etc. send to IndiaRubb at aol.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pinaplcrsh at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 00:54:58 1998 From: Pinaplcrsh at xxx.com (Pinaplcrsh at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:54:58 EST Subject: Sinister: Shag Album Message-ID: <91fa318a.363519e2@aol.com> i've found that i have the best luck with rocketship's album 'a certain smile, a certain sadness'. it's sweet mellow background music and when i catch one of the lyrics about lost love it makes me appreciate who i'm there with even more. my girlfriend swears by dub narcotic featuring lois. we haven't tried it yet though. we usually play 'if you're feeling sinister'. i've made her a belle and sebastian fan through this because she knows what's going to happen when i bring the album over to her house. *alyssa marie* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Taboonmb7 at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 01:08:10 1998 From: Taboonmb7 at xxx.com (Taboonmb7 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 20:08:10 EST Subject: Sinister: Whew.. WHAT a weekend. Message-ID: <2e9b930b.36351cfa@aol.com> hello beautiful people. i just returned from Toronto on Sunday night with the hopes of seeing Belle & Sebastian with a few ace people that i planned on meeting there. well, where to begin... i left my home about 10:30, thinking this to be plenty of time to make it to my hotel in Toronto at 2, which is where i was meeting these people. at around 1:40, i thought "damn, i'm making good time." i was just 5 miles away from Toronto, on 401 East just pass Missasauga. and then SPLAT. i got myself into a situation - i rear ended a car who came to a complete grinding halt on the hwy at 120 Kms (about... 75 mph?) .. i was following approximately 20 ft behind, which wasn't enough for my little, black, and quaintly cute Geo Prism, aka the Gnome Hearse (sp.) . i smashed into him at about 40 Kms, enough to smash the front end of my car about 2 ft and for it to be considered "totalled." i had NO idea what to do.. i mean, i'm in this foreign country, i have a perfect driving record, so i've never had experiences with this before, and i had little money. luckily Canadians are seemingly more helpful than Americans, for about 20 of them stopped, offered me access to their phones, cigs, and everything else i needed. a tow truck even came about 5 min after the accident. since i was in shock afterwards, i honestly didn't even care, i was just worried about making it to the hotel by 2 to meet my friends. unfortunatly by the time i made it to the collision shoppe the shock wore right off and i immediately started crying.. i was seriously screwed, i couldn't rent a car with my credit card for i only have a 500 dollar limit and the car would be over 750... luckily a man who felt sympathy for me called a cab, and the cabbie also felt pity so he turned his meter off and only charged me 40 dollars for a ride to my hotel (it would've been in the area of 70 dollars!)... and thus ends "the worst day of my life." . cue in one of the best nights of my life now. Sheila, Cheryl, and Cheryl's friend Megan were all waiting for me like 3 hours after i said i'd be there! such sweet people... Sheila is a glossie (pulp mailing list peep) by the way. She's so ace! thanks for the scarf dear! one of the most uniquely cool people i've ever met. she just radiated with these happy vibes which made me forget all about my poor car. well i'm sick of typing now. we went to a few clubs for drinks, stores, etc.. just spent a "night on the town.". and then we hear about the concert being cancelled, but i was drunk and having much fun so i was indifferent to that at the time. i cannot type anymore since iam quite intoxicated right now so i apologize for any incoherency.. i do not blame the band at all for what happen. there is no one to blame at all - they did what was right. they are a band and should play as one, and if that means that one of the members is ill and they feel that they shouldn't play without her, then i commend them on their group unity! that's wonderful to see that they care enough about each other in such a way. i'm sure they'll reschedual the shows anyways.. which is good because it will give me another excuse to go to Toronto (driving more slower and safer, that is...).. ! it's a beautiful city, such a relief from the neo-industrial wasteland of Flint Michigan. well goodbye i rambled enough.. "hanging on your party games, dancing in the shadows.." - Siouxsie & The Banshees, "Playground Twist." ~james* (someone to blame, someone to shame...) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jbrent at xxx.ca Tue Oct 27 03:30:06 1998 From: jbrent at xxx.ca (Jason Brent) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:30:06 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Re: DOG ON WHEELS Message-ID: <36353E3E.9D1DADFF@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca> Speaking of dogs on wheels, The Inbreds have a song called Prince, about a dog on wheels. Awesome Tune!!! Also, NME had an article on their web site about the concert cancellations, and they said that the Toronto show will not be rescheduled!!! How reliable this is, I don't know. Later, JAY +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Taboonmb7 at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 02:10:16 1998 From: Taboonmb7 at xxx.com (Taboonmb7 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:10:16 EST Subject: Sinister: Shag Album Message-ID: top shag album in the opinion of someone who has done quite a bit of shagging to different soundtracks - Suede's "Suede" album. definetly. even the cover just SCREAMS sensuality. the tracks "The Drowners" and "Animal Nitrate" are enough to give anyone nocturnal emissions for a whole week. "what does it take to turn you on?" ~james* (animal, he was, an animal...) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From larissa at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 02:32:44 1998 From: larissa at xxx.com (Larissa Slurpee) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:32:44 -0800 Subject: Sinister: another newbie Message-ID: <363530CC.2B03675D@geocities.com> Hello, all! I've heard wonderful things about this list and finally persuaded myself to join. Hope there isn't too much mail, as school (college, music student) takes up much of my time and I don't get nearly as much time on the net as I'd like....(as in, 2-3 hours a day...hehe) I'm Larissa from Vancouver, BC. I'm 18. My very favourite band is Pulp (I'm also on Lipgloss). I heard about B&S over a year ago, but didn't get to hear IYFS until about 2 months ago. It was definately worth the wait! My friend Nick has both albums, and we even got together in the summer to do a somewhat half-assed recording of Fox in the Snow. Already you guys seem like great people! I loved the pome this morning, it set me on the right track after a horrid weekend! ~Larissa http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/2196 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Cludgy at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 04:07:38 1998 From: Cludgy at xxx.com (Cludgy at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 23:07:38 EST Subject: Sinister: Shag Album Message-ID: In a message dated 10/26/98 10:13:22 PM, iamnot at tigermilk.ml.org wrote: << I'm single and have no views on this subject.... So...good albums to do stuff to. New Fatboy SLim album is very good. Better than the first I think. Beth Orton is good too. When I go home, I'm going to have an attempt to ween my sister off Alanis Morrisete and onto slightly better stuff. >> Eyoooooo!! Yer shaggin yer sister to Alanis Morrissette?? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jtmimms at xxx.edu Tue Oct 27 07:21:54 1998 From: jtmimms at xxx.edu (Jessie Mimms) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 23:21:54 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Shag Album Message-ID: <36357492.A91B955@unity.ncsu.edu> The best shag album? I would say it is a tie between Catherine Wheel's "Like Cats & Dogs" and perhaps any Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds album. Yessss, that would be it, thank you and goodnight. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jaded10486 at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 04:38:09 1998 From: Jaded10486 at xxx.com (Jaded10486 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 23:38:09 EST Subject: Fwd: Sinister: Shag Album Message-ID: An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Jaded10486 at xxx.com Subject: Re: Sinister: Shag Album Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 23:36:18 EST Size: 315 URL: From kwl96 at xxx.edu Tue Oct 27 04:39:46 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 23:39:46 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Shag Album In-Reply-To: <36357492.A91B955@unity.ncsu.edu> Message-ID: well, the only time i've ever had an orgasm during sex the jon spencer blues explosion "orange" was playing. now i'm sure you all wanted to know that, didn't you? -kerry "there is something you should know: the girl of your dreams is here all alone." -morrissey, "southpaw" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mphintz at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 05:01:08 1998 From: Mphintz at xxx.com (Mphintz at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:01:08 EST Subject: Sinister: i caught it from a cello Message-ID: <33431703.36355394@aol.com> On Sunday I played in a children's concert. I thought it was a concert _for_ children, but it turned out to be a concert with teenage soloists. I was a bit disappointed, but decided to stay and play because, um, I was getting paid. I was slightly afraid that the cello section would turn ill like Isobel, and one by one they would hobble off the stage to a waiting ambulance. Perhaps what she had was only affecting cellists. Of course, since I play the bass, I was afraid I might catch this cello disease because I play in the same clef as a cello! Luckily, all of us made it through the performance and are fine. Yes, I resubbed because I couldn't bear to think of the seven hundred of you having a big party without me. Living and loving Matthew +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iamnot at xxx.org Tue Oct 27 02:22:34 1998 From: iamnot at xxx.org (Fill in name here) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:22:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Shag Album In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > << > I'm single and have no views on this subject.... > So...good albums to do stuff to. > New Fatboy SLim album is very good. Better than the first I think. Beth > Orton is good too. When I go home, I'm going to have an attempt to ween my > sister off Alanis Morrisete and onto slightly better stuff. > > >> > > Eyoooooo!! Yer shaggin yer sister to Alanis Morrissette?? > Ewwwww.............no.... Well not to alanis! Ewwwwwww.... Sorry. No NOt at all. Not to Alanis, not to B&S Not to Radiohead...NOTHING That's just sick... (and you've not seen my sister...) iain +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sabin_o at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 07:11:48 1998 From: sabin_o at xxx.com (S. M. O.) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:11:48 GMT Subject: Sinister: Re:Shag Album Message-ID: <19981027071148.10295.qmail@hotmail.com> Okay! So two more albums came to mind that are great for snogging/shagging : Booker T and the MGs (Green Onions) and Ride I think anyone who would listen to Alanis Morrissette has some psychological problems that need to be addressed. I mean, come on, thats the kind of music you here when your on when of those carnival rides..talk about a nightmare. Anybody know of any of good Canadian music worth noting? Its about time.... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aadam at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 06:44:38 1998 From: aadam at xxx.com (It's me!) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 01:44:38 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Things couldn't've gone much worse Message-ID: <36356BCC.6C2B@interaccess.com> Needless to say I'd been looking forward to seeing B&S for a long time. This may have been part of the problem. I got to Metro a little _too_ early for my own good. If you know me (and few of you do) you know that my passion is recording the concerts I go to. I've been doing it longer than some of you have been walking. This is a hobby that is completely harmless because I don't allow my tapes to go to anyone but the band and occasionally people I've come to trust implicitly. Many musicians around the world are very happy with what I do, but that doesn't mean a thing to folks who don't know me. And occasionally my stupidity from the distant past comes back to haunt me. When I got to Metro I immediately found out from Neil that the band didn't want any taping. OK, that's fine. Maybe I could explain my situation in detail to Stuart, and maybe he might let me record the show. You see, there have been a few times where a tour manager has said "no" when the band would've given an enthusiastic "yes." So I went upstairs to where soundcheck was taking place ("Seeing Other People" about eight times, "Chickfactor," and one I didn't recognise) to give Isobel a get-well gift and wait to talk to Stuart. The fellow who was stage managing was not to happy about my being there (I've never done anything to cause him grief), but Neil was very kind. He said that Metro wanted to toss me, but he told them to at least allow me to see the show. He could tell that I was a fan and didn't think that I should miss out simply because I wanted to record and got there early. When the stage manager asked if I had a ticket I said no because I was fortunate enough to know Matthew and Anthony from the Momus camp who put me on the guest list. Usually that's no big deal with Metro and me. I get there early regularly to set up my mics. It's much harder to do so after the doors have opened. Toward the end of B&S' soundcheck one of the new Metro goons (the security has a high turn over) asked me if I had a pass. I said no and followed with, "who does?" Well apparently others did (I didn't see any), and this was reason enough for me to have to wait outside. OK, fine. I'll come in with everyone else and see if I can talk to Stuart then. After a half hour waiting in line with some of my friends, I was told that I was not to be allowed into the venue at all. Apparently the owner heard about what happened, he decided that I wasn't gonna even get to see the show. I continued to wait outside to thank Neil for sticking up for my love for the band. He had no idea I was not going to be allowed in. I don't know if he continued to try to get me in, but he was most kind to say that he'd try. I think we both knew it was a lost cause. There was a time (nearly ten years ago!) that I had a problem with the management at Metro, but I thought it was all water under the bridge at this point. They just wanted to make my life miserable; and, in a sense, they did. I feel very fortunate that I was able to witness soundcheck at the very least and to cheer up Isobel a little. But now I'll probably have to wait for years before I get the opportunity to see them again. This was worse than if they cancelled *sigh* Basically I'm just sayin' Metro is bad. They have a good reputation in the industry, but there was no reason for me to be banned from the show. I hope everyone else had a good time. Aadam +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From conform at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 08:47:06 1998 From: conform at xxx.com (Seamus Campbell) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:47:06 -0800 Subject: Sinister: last chance for wonderful company in new york! Message-ID: <01FF24001403D011AD7B00A024BC53C53BF2FD@mail.smime.org> well, i leave saturday for new york, and it struck me that that was soon enough that i should try again to find another place or two to stay while i'm there. so again: my friend and i are coming out for 10 days to go to belle and sebastian, cmj, museums, and anything else that strikes our fancy. we're nice, reasonable kids who are perfectly willing to exchange dinner for floor space or something resembling it. if there any nights between the 31st and the 8th (except maybe the 5th) that this would work for you, drop me an e-mail. you should probably give me a phone number, too, so i can just call and confirm things. looking forward to some twattybus hospitality... which i will of course be delighted to return when listees are coming out to olympia and seattle... seamus +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eculb at xxx.uk Tue Oct 27 09:17:01 1998 From: eculb at xxx.uk (JaMeS) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:17:01 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Any Live Bootlegs Please??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear record company people who threatened my uni with legal action because of the email i sent earlier to this list, Sorry!!! I didnt mean to 'advertise' the fact that i had a tigermilk CD. I read earlier mails by David Kitchen, which said that tape copies for home use would not be stamped out. This is what i was refering to. Sorry if I got this wrong. To set the record straight, I am NOT offering anything, copies or otherwise, Hope this sorts things out, A very scared, JaMeS :( On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, JaMeS wrote: > > Hello there fellow Belleandsebastianites, > > Please please please does anyone have any tapes of the Manchester Town > hall gig on Sunday Evening 27th(?) December 1997 or the recent Shepherd's > Bush Empire gig on the 7th September 1998? Am willing to sacrifice my own > mother to get copies of these gigs. > > I can offer copies of the stuff I have: > I picked up a bootleg Tigermilk CD with 8 bonus tracks on it-the 2 > Radcliffe sessions they did, including Dog on Wheels, The State I'm In, > Judy, Like Dylan, I could be dreaming, seeing other people (slow version), > We rule the school, and modern rock song. > > Ive also got the 4 songs from the last session as far as i know > (llpj,seymour stein,slow graffitti,sleep the clock around), and the > Christmas Show they did for Radio Scotland last year ( though Im missing > the start with Isobel-can anyone help me here??). > > emails please, > > ...JaMeS... > > > > > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ******************************************* * * * " I tell like like it is " * * * ******************************************* - JaMeS ;) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cleonard at xxx.COM Tue Oct 27 09:56:22 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:56:22 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Opinions, his fingernails Message-ID: Dear members, I know I've been quiet of late, but you see I've been busy doing things. Firstly, I feel partly responsible for this 'smut' thing that's been going on. I would just like to say thank you - I like the way I can print out emails then enjoy them even more in ten minute toilet sessions. Especially the one about the kissing orgy (I should really print out a fresh copy of that sodden manuscript, before someone notices). Secondly I'm very impressed with Wee Chris and his famous apology. Surely he is the shyest and most breakable out of all the sebastics. The boy should be sent sweeties for being so brave, and promoted to Captain Geddes your in charge now Admiral Geddes. Hmm, I'm sure they are all rather done in by now. Miss Julia and myself were shattered after a week of the UK tour, it's no wonder the belle and sebastian immune systems are faltering. I wonder if they have a communal bath after a concert like a top football team? "Stuart, the soap is stuck to your leg", Stevie would say whilst trying to dislodge the bar of Imperial Leather. "That's not the soap", Murdoch would smirk. Meanwhile some suspicious bubbles would rise in the water around the giggling Miss Martin. Thirdly, I'm finding it difficult not to have Belle and Sebastian Dreams these days. Last night I was dreaming about liquid audio streamies of Slow Graffiti. And it had rude words to the same tune. I awoke shocked, but kinda proud of my subconscious brain thoughts, don't you know. And lastly my wishes have become fishes as on Thursday night I get to see top genius of the parish and founder Incredible String Band member Robin Williamson fully in concert. Expect a full gibbering on Friday. That is all, Christopher Leonard +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From arantxa at xxx.es Tue Oct 27 10:56:13 1998 From: arantxa at xxx.es (Aranzazu Sanz Garcia) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:56:13 MET Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe Message-ID: <199810270956.KAA27457@hpc100.gdc.tat.upm.es> unsubscribe sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Oct 27 10:19:26 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:19:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Wank Album Message-ID: <01be0193$46afcfe0$6f4c05c3@itjfvkli> Thanks to all the champion lovers who've shared their musical sexperiences with us. Unfortunately, my religious beliefs prevent me from "doing a shag" until I meet a woman with really really massive knockers, as big as the Albert Hall, so I have to make do with putting "Popcorn" by Hot Butter on repeat and letting nature take its course. Sorry to hear about your troubles at the Metro, It's Me. I have a 1961 concert recording of blues legend Slim Harpo, called "Sting It Then! Swamp Blues Jam". The story inside the booklet is very similar to the one you tell, only with a happy ending. it sounds like shit, but apparently it's a valuable historical document. Is it one of yours? Gary, have you been getting Sarah drunk? Paul mentioned Baroness Thatcher's leadership qualities. I'd more or less forgotten all about her until I read thet Pinochet letter the other day. Amazing stuff, top comedy. How did she last so long? It all seems a very long time ago. I was going to make up some story about Isobel having been caught unawares by the lack of impurities in the Philadelphia smack supply, but I thought perhaps it wuld be more fun if we had some kind of competition to see who can come up with the most credible "real" reason for her absence. I'm sure Teddy Pendergrass was involved in some way. Maybe this is a bad idea. Oh well, back to shag albums. Julian Cope claims that "Blackdance" by Klaus Schutze was his seduction album. I bought it, just out of curiosity, and it never fails to send me to sleep. It's pretty good though - wurp-wurp-wurp - that kind of thing. Bobby C +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Tue Oct 27 10:43:44 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:43:44 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: more about shaggin' Message-ID: Hello again to all sinisterines! Sorry because I sent that unsubscribe message to the list instead of majordomo at ...etc.And anyway, it was not a true unsubscribing , as it is just I have changed my address (both electronic and physical) So, let's talk about sex.Here it is my own little contribution to the best shagging albums ever issue which is going on lately : According to my humble point of view, as always, predicted theoretical results are not too close to experience...I would validate 'Orange' seems perfect from outside and 'Suede' is ace, at least, I have checked its suitability for seducting but my greatest own hits might be 'Debaser' or 'Something changed', not to talk of something as uncool as Ozric Tentacles. Mind rules the body or body rules the mind?'->that's the question... Two personal remarks : a) Pour Philippe le charmant : tu fais de la chemie aussi,non? Comme moi. Je fais de la chemie quantique, mais je suis une physicienne...je me sens tres solitaire dans mon department ! b)To Robin : yes, I am the one in Nottingham, too !I needed some idea to sketch a script for Sunday, and your Kiddy story has provided me some inspiration, together with something a friend of mine told me yesterday about electronic romance and random meeting with the one she had not met but met in a chat because they knew... Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Matthew.Stead at xxx.uk Tue Oct 27 15:48:15 1998 From: Matthew.Stead at xxx.uk (Stead, Matthew) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:48:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Dog on wheels In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981026122631.007ac880@scimail.uwaterloo.ca> Message-ID: The other day I was skipping along the road.(Lie- I was feeling very melancholy as I truddled along). This elderly woman walked past with this dog. It had its two hind legs strapped up and attached to this axle with two wheels either end. It pulled itself along with its two front legs and seemed perfectly happy. As long as this is not an act of animal cruelty and the legs were supposed to be like that for medical reasons, then I am very happy! I think it was a very thoughtful and inventive idea, because most dogs are just put down by vets that couldn't give an arse, when they are hurt in road accidents. Matty. ---------------------------------------- Stead, Matthew Email: Matthew.Stead at uwe.ac.uk "University of the West of England" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Tue Oct 27 10:54:58 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:54:58 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Toss Album Message-ID: <01BE0198.3D289880.keith@qss.co.uk> Julian Cope claims that "Blackdance" by Klaus Schutze was his seduction album. I bought it, just out of curiosity, and it never fails to send me to sleep. It's pretty good though - wurp-wurp-wurp - that kind of thing. That's strange you should say that Peter, as I was in Virgin yesterday on my day off work, and was hearing a bit of Julian "Copey" Cope's new record, then I kind of thought, hey, there's some bloke that looks dead like Julian Cope, and then started thinking "Why is there a queue behind this bloke", so it turns out it is actually Julian Cope, wackily dressed up as Swampy or something. I was thinking the other day also about how you could better describe the great Moog synthesizer, and I hit upon the idea of mentioning great Moog songs, and came down to my two favourite Moog solos, which come from Ike and Tina Turner's "Nutbush city limits" and Heatwave's "Boogie nights", both totally great Moog solos, indeed the former record, so I'm told by my mum and dad was the first record I ever danced too - so there you go, as this track came out in 1973 it turns out I'm so cool, I was into Moog solos from almost before I was born! Cheers, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Tue Oct 27 11:01:42 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:01:42 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Antipodeans Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7C00@COR-EXG1> Morning (GMT). Whats all this "shag-album" malarky ? Does it come free with six tokens from packets of Old Holborn ? What a load of arse-slappin bollocks. Shirley b'jeeves if you boys and girls ain't makin' babies, then you makin' sweeeeeeeeeeet music ? Then what need of a slip-sloppin' soundtrack ? All that noise, you gonna get confused sweet Jesus yes you are. Whilst you're plumbing the depths with that monkey wrench, with Struan MacMcMaddog "Seeing other people" tearing at the lobes, you haven't got your mind on the job have you ? Did you know that the listening of Belle and Sebastian during intercourse can lead to deflation of purple bell-end and water-retention round left knee ? Well it can so stop it. I say if you can't make that music by yourselves then the only record you should even think of using as a backing track is Gina G's "Ooh-Arrr Just a little bit". You can sing along if you're any good, though it gets a bit boring when you stick it on repeat forty-seven times....heh heh heh !!! Peter out Miller in out in.....that Starsky and Hutch is very good. I have a picture I did on the old windows paintbrush of Dougall from the old supernatural whirlygig fame that I want to send to Honeys Mummy page. Unfortunately it's in .BMP format and I don't know what to do to make it .jpg friendly. HELP !!! Is anyone organising a South-Coast meet-up during the xmas/new year period ? As much as I would like to go to Glasgow, it's quite a long way for weird country-folk who don't get out much, and due to family and future family committments over that period, I definitely am not going to be able to travel. I'm sure many are in the same boat.....any ideas forthcoming ? Later playmates. aDRIAN. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 0291942a01 at xxx.es Mon Oct 26 21:20:28 1998 From: 0291942a01 at xxx.es (Jordi Trenzano Vilar) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:20:28 +-100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <01BE01A6.9EFF8F60@Abonado-195-53-34-157.cat.es> First of all, I want to say that I?m glad because Isobel?s health is good right now. The catalan spring is waiting for you and the rest of the band. In previous messages, I told you that I was creating a B&S fanzine in spanish. If anybody wants to share his creativity with some spanish people, please send me whatever you like (specially gig reviews) , it doesn?t matter if it?s written in english. Finally, a question not related with B&S. It?s about R.E.M: -I have the CD re-issue of 1986?s "Life?s rich pageant" and I think that the songs are not in the same order as they are printed. Can anyone send me privately the right order ? I bought it recently, so I?m a bit confused. Jordi. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Fireball70 at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 11:45:25 1998 From: Fireball70 at xxx.com (Fireball70 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 06:45:25 EST Subject: Sinister: Sheffield? Message-ID: Is anyone on the list from sheffield? And likes the Chemical Brothers? If so drop me a line, and soon! Yours Bentley as In "Seconds just to being born, Seconds to dying too. What else would you do?" Fox in the snow : B&S +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 70204923 at xxx.ca Tue Oct 27 12:53:55 1998 From: 70204923 at xxx.ca (Sebastian) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:53:55 EST Subject: Sinister: ODD misheard BS lyric Message-ID: <1E1C1965D01@cs5.conestogac.on.ca> may have to apologize for this one: in the title track of SINISTER, i heard, amillion times over... she was into FNM and bible studies, not everyone's cup of tea... FNM, being Faith No More, the band... which i thought was tre-cool coz the line went from Faith No More to bible studies, a kule paradox...THEN... AND . . . as we may or may not know, Michael Patton, deranged singer of Faith No More, used to have an addiction to caffeine (the *tea* thing), and even wrote a song called Caffeine on the Angel Dust album ...the abrasive FNM riddled in this multi paradox by the gentle tones of SM is quite grand... here's hoping BS comes to Canada, after all - - - good luck on every finger - - - - cheers. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NeilD at xxx.uk Tue Oct 27 12:22:23 1998 From: NeilD at xxx.uk (Neil Dewhurst) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:22:23 -0000 Subject: Sinister: shag-a-lang-a-ding-dong Message-ID: <704AE307AB53D2119EE300805F7DF755E31F@NCMSERVER> All these exchanges about music pour fait amour - can I lower the tone? It strikes me that The tindersticks latest opus (curtains) is a fine dirty low down album. Not necessarily the best for sweet romance, it's been pitched - if indeed it was recorded for this purpose, and I'm sure Stuart Staples like to bump n' grind in front of the fire, you know - more at the dirty lonely man market. Songs about scratching, rented rooms, cheating, and tired hungry bears who've been out all night making sweet love to bears they shouldn't be with. I am reminded of a friend of mine (and I mention it because I woke up this morning with no feeling in my arms after sleeping on them all night. Believe me, dragging your dead limbs across a room and switching an alarm clock off with your elbow is not the easiest task) who used to make his own hand numb before onanism. Apparently he's not the only one to do this. Apparently, also, people quite enjoy it. As someone who finds numbness and pins and needles quite amusing, I don't think I could do it. Next week I shall be discussing other intellectual topics, such as "who would you shoot first - Bridget Jones or Ally McBeal?" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From padraic_fresheire at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 13:34:43 1998 From: padraic_fresheire at xxx.com (padraic doorey) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 05:34:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Phillly disaster, XFM.... Message-ID: <19981027133444.28794.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> i am still ultra devestated by last week's debacle. i will write more when i am no longer jet lagged and have actually been to my house to regroup. meanwhile i received this letter from the radio commission this morning: ========================================= 26 October 1998 Following your complaint - and others - the Radio Authority has considered the broadcasts of Xfm against its Promise of Performance. In summary, the outcome is that Authority Members have fined the company #4,000 (four thousand pounds) and we will be having talks with Xfm over the coming weeks. The Authority will be looking at the position again in the New Year. Members felt in particular the absence of the features as outlined - notwithstanding any problems encountered during the re-location of the studios - breached the spirit and, in specific instances also, the letter of the Promise of Performance. These are features which would include music and information not heard on other, more mainstream, stations. You will note that the Authority has welcomed changes made to the output recently. The present Xfm playlist may not be to the taste of every single alternative music fan. It is, however, far enough from those of mainstream stations to demonstrate commitment on the part of Xfm that "generally outside the mainstream" is the audience they do wish to address. The Authority understands that specialist music stations attract, quite obviously, the sort of passion not necessarily inspired by more mainstream stations. For example, certain country music fans deride "line dance" music and say it has no place on country stations, and that country should mean New Country. Others think Old Country should form the basis of stations, and anything else is just "spice". Arguments rage about whether artists can remain alternative when they are popular. What happens when an alternative track charts and becomes popular with people who don't normally follow the alternative scene? Is it alternative or mainstream? However, the Authority can only concern itself with one simple issue, which in the case of Xfm, is to ensure the station serves a market which is "generally outside the mainstream". We will continue to monitor the direction of the music and the Authority will look again at the whole question of Xfm output again in the New Year. Yours sincerely MARTIN CAMPBELL Head of Programming and Advertising _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JohnJ at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 14:23:30 1998 From: JohnJ at xxx.com (John Johnston) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:23:30 -0000 Subject: Sinister: leadership Message-ID: I'd love to post something about shag albums but what the hell do i know about shagging. I can say I always get excited when I hear the theme to Grandstand so my old BBC sporting themes album would probably be a first choice - imagine making out to the Horse of the Year show music or Rugby Special (with the voice of Bill McLaren in your head whispering - "Och the young lad's an absolute monster in the tackle department..."). And if you wanted to prolong the 'pleasure' you could use the theme to the golf to give you something boring to think about. Of course if I ever was likely to do any of that shagging I've heard all about the last thing on my mind would be "better put on some music". I'd be too busy thinking "Socks on or off??". Maybe that's where I'm going wrong. Anyhow there has been some talk of B&S and Leadership skills. And this gave me a fab money spinning idea to run past the folks at Jeepster. The Belle And Sebastian Executive Leadership training weekend!! Day 1 10.30 Registration at the Church Hall. Delegates must hand over their briefcases and receive a stuffed toy from Seargents Campbell and Martin. 11- 1 Working in a village shop. Delegates are given a fixed number of posters to put up. The purpose of this exercise to get normally focussed managers to day-dream on the job. Special commendations for the most elaborate fantasy world and any that involve aforementioned stuffed animal. Light Lunch 2-3.30pm Scream therapy. Colour-Seargent Colbourn wanders around with a placard saying "Business World" on it. Delegates are encouraged to boo and hiss and work out their unresolved professional tensions. 3.30 - 5 Cross Country Obstacle course. After a short address from Gunner Cooke who puts on a Windsor Davies voice and assures delegates many of them may not return and that he is a real man and they is a bunch of poofs, delegates must construct a dog on wheels from items found laying around the church hall and guide it around the playground. They must disregard the sorties of enemy partisans (Colonel David) who forcefully informs them that there efforts are "pish" and "he's off". Early Night Day2 9.00 am Regimental Drill Seargent (Me-and-the) Major "Howlin' Mad" Murdoch wakes delegates with a cup a tea and the hope that they slept well. 10.00 am Board bus for town centre. (it's only a mile and a half but it does take a long time) 10.30 - 11. Table Turning in Marks and Spencers Delegates must be quick on their feet. Rather than the traditional business skills of of blaming other people, delegates will be encouraged to take responsible if the security guards do seem to care. 11 - 12 Riding city buses. Delegates must draw pretty patterns in the windows and thus unleash their creativity. Over lunch the newly promoted Admiral Geddes and Wing-Commander Jackson will explain the final challenge. Delegates will be split into teams and lead down to the banks of the River Kelvin. One member from each team will be zipped into a Lord Anthony parka with pencils stuffed into the sleeve pockets rendering him/her unable to look left or right up or down or bend their arms. His/her colleagues must then guide them over a narrow plank using a stylophone and Serge Gainsbourg songs. Absolute trust in the abilities of your team is crucial to the success of this mission. Once across the river the delegate must pick up an Arab Strap and be instructed to put it on by his/her team. Photographs are then taken and sold to fetish magazines. The team that makes the most money wins! Any further suggestions for activites welcome. xx John PS Trousers - got the book - THANK YOUxxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Thessaly1 at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 14:43:32 1998 From: Thessaly1 at xxx.com (Thessaly1 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:43:32 EST Subject: Sinister: dare i ask? Message-ID: <11fd7edf.3635dc14@aol.com> hi there! i was at the b and s show last night in chicago and had a wonderful time. i had considered bring my camera to the show, but knowing how photo shy the band is, i decided that they might body check people at the door, so i didn't try to bring it. of course, after i get inside i realise that they weren't checking people at all. i saw that alot of people were taking photos and i was wondering if anyone on the list did. if you can e-mail me privately that would be great. also does anyone know the set list for the show? there were a few songs i didn't know, like slow graffti and possibly a few other new ones (or from tigermilk) and i would like to know what they were called. i met stuart after the show and he was a really nice guy. he was quite amazed that i came all the way out from LA just to see his band. he said something like, "but we are going to play California sometime, we will do san francisco, probably skip LA and then play san diego." i laughed and said, that is fine, after flying almost 2000 miles, i can drive a measly 100 miles to see you in san diego. :) i want to say hi to the few people i met from the list. i am not surprised i couldn't find the rest of you, they pack 1100 people in the tiny tin can of a box they call the metro! i do wish i got one of those little posters, i saw a few people carrying. i guess it was something the "special" backstage people got after the show! toodles! jennifer +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mrlunch at xxx.com Sun Oct 11 16:55:49 1998 From: mrlunch at xxx.com (Kristopher Harrison) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 08:55:49 -0700 Subject: Sinister: dare i ask? References: <11fd7edf.3635dc14@aol.com> Message-ID: <3620D505.82A0D7ED@interaccess.com> Thessaly1 at aol.com wrote: > also does anyone know the set list for the show? there were a few songs i > didn't know, like slow graffti and possibly a few other new ones (or from > tigermilk) and i would like to know what they were called. > Hi:I was also at the show last night and I believe these were all of the new or unreleased songs that they played: I know where the summer goes Lord Anthony Slow Graffitti Paper boat Wrong Girl Loneliness of the Middle Distance Runner It was a beautiful show all around but i'll let others describe it in depth as I must now shuffle off to work. Toodle-oo Kris Harrison +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atieger at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 15:16:59 1998 From: atieger at xxx.com (aaron tieger) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:16:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: gettin' busy Message-ID: <19981027151659.5469.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> I've always found that great music for shagging/gettin' down/gettin' busy is '80's stuff: Prince's 1999 especially, but all those Rhino comps are mighty nice too. Especially the one with "Relax" "Hold Me Now" and "Cruel Summer" (vol. 13, I believe). Either that or the Circle Jerks. aaron === atieger at rocketmail.com auger/anvil "So goodbye, so long, the road calls me dear and your tears cannot bind me anymore And farewell to the girl with the sun in her eyes I'll kiss you and then I'll be gone" --Tom Waits _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail, free e-mail for the planet. * Visit & explore Cybersmith at http://www.cybersmith.com * Get your web-based e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 15:35:36 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:35:36 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Girls boobs - a reply Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E222DAEDC@server1.HITEntertainment.com> So...does it count as "staring at girls' boobs" if you just have a quick glance when their heads are briefly turned, or do you actually have to be intently focussed 18 inches below eye level for a number of minutes for it to count? Cos let's be honest, we've all done the latter...erm, that wasn't what I meant at all... I find it hard to believe that clitoral stimulation is achieved with this mystical bit of metal, but only because it's one thing rubbing against such sensitive areas with parts with a bit of yield (oh use your imagination, for heavens sake), and another crushing it with rigid steel, mistress. But then I don't have one (a clitoris, that is, although my sex toy collection is pitifully non-existent too). Having said that, they are in proximity, as Peter (i think) explained, at certain points during coitus(1), so perhaps it does work after all. The prospect of several curious sinisterites checking these facts in a practical way doesn't do my blood pressure any good, either. Did anyone come up with a definitive recognition tool for the New York shows? So there you are. I'm still about 55 mails short of getting them all read, but work wouldn't like it very much if that was how they spent the next hour or so, so I'm gong to go and phone someone instead. Until next time, chickens, Biondino xxx ______ (1) hugenob.jpg at www.harderdeeperfaster.com/nudeypics/, 1998, San Fernando Valley +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From barzy at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 16:48:06 1998 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 08:48:06 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Ink Polaroid/Lonliness Is Fun Message-ID: Here's me, reading a book about a girl who lapses into an alcohol/Valum induced coma, mere hours after washing down a tranquilizer with 3 bottles of cider. I look uneasy with a hint of panic I think, but never the less..in focus. The rest of the room, a bit of a blur...you can kind of make out a larger than life Chris Geddes behind me on the wall, by the bed, the dim flicker of lights dancing inside our pumpkins...mine and his. (not Chris Geddes by the bye) Keeping his lit, as well as mine, makes him seem closer some how. To the left of me is my B&S mug, with old...stale tea in. Next to that, a smattering of candy and chocolates wrappers...Over here...you can just make out my new Uncle Bulgaria looking wisely on. And if he could speak....he's surely tell me that rewinding "Modern Rock Song" 12 times in a row is bordering on psychotic behavior and he'd send me to bed in my burrow with no Chamomile Soup. This photo shows all too well the circles under my eyes...this is one for the bin i'm afraid. "Lonliness Is Fun." beth +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tjohnson at xxx.net Tue Oct 27 16:59:28 1998 From: tjohnson at xxx.net (Tony Johnson) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:59:28 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Athens post-show Message-ID: <3635FBE9.9E795AB@athens.net> Hi Everybody, Just wanted to let those of you attending the Athens show, that you're invited to my house for a post show get-together-thingy. Let me know if there is any interest in this plan. The other option is to gather at one of Athens fine bars (Engine Room, Manhatten, Lunch Paper, Mean Mike's) for post show cocktails, etc. Has anyone set any dining plans? I know there was talk of sushi, but I haven't heard much about that lately. Tony -- ___________________________________________________________________ After all, the terms music video and artistic vision were separated right after they finished broadcasting "Video Killed the Radio Star" Tony Johnson tjohnson at athens.net ___________________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 17:00:20 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid Dossinger) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:00:20 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Athens meet-up Message-ID: <3635EE0D.F5E1ECF1@bigfoot.com> I know that there's a meet-up board on the Jeepster site, but I wanted to make sure this got through to the appropriate parties. The basics are this: There is now pretty officially a meet-up at the Engine Room, which is a bar that's right next door to the 40 Watt. Literally, right next door. No searching or nothin'. So everyone head over there after the show. The only things to be concerned with are a) how do we identify each other and b) 40 Watt shows tend to start and end pretty late, and Athens bars close at 2:00 am. If anyone has any good ideas on how we can identify each other, suggest away. If you want to find me, I'll be wearing my favorite grey shirt (grey is apparently the "in" color this fall. How fashionable of me!) and my scuffed-up pair of black Doc Martens. More specifically, almost everyone aggrees that I look like Tom Hanks...some say vaguely, some say eerily. I say vaguely. I will be accompanied by my friend Laurie who is blond and thin and unbelieveably hip. Come and say hi if you spot me. On the question to b), one Tony Johnson, Athens resident, has very kindly offered use of his house if the Engine room closes down before appropriate B&S-style rowdiness can happen. Still, everybody meet at the Engine Room. Hopefully, the 40 Watt will come to their senses on this show and have it end at a decent hour. I'm assuming there'll only be B&S and the opening band, which means....oh, I'll say 12:30 ending time. We'll see. Of course, if anyone, ahem, "bumps into" a band member, bring them along. Whoever brings Stuart M. wins. No points for Chris or Sarah since they'll probably beat us to the bar. And will have drunk it half dry by the time we get there..."Bars stay open til 2:00 am?! Brilliant!" See you there. Damn excited, Reid +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From s2dlkenn at xxx.edu Tue Oct 27 17:00:15 1998 From: s2dlkenn at xxx.edu (Dave Kennedy) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:00:15 -0500 Subject: Sinister: DC Pleading Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981027120015.006ced1c@titan.vcu.edu> Oh, I'm such a desparate soul. It seems the people I was going with to see B&S in DC on Friday, thought I had already bought a ticket my very self. Well, I didn't. I hate to post like this (honestly), but if any kind souls out there have an extra ticket to the show Fri @ Black Cat, please e-mail me privately and I will reward you with my eternal gratitude and other such novelties. Thanks and sorry to waste most people's time. Dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Tue Oct 27 17:52:26 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (Jake) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:52:26 -0000 Subject: Sinister: South coast meet up Message-ID: <199810271751.RAA04306@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> This south coast meet up sounds like a good idea to me. It's just that Scotland seems a very long way to travel, (Manchester was too, but that was just about manageable), as lovely as all you listees are. So it would seem a good idea to have another meet up at the other end of the country, for all of us Southern Jessies, we might even get a guest of honour in the form of everyones favourite FunkySeb, if we time it right. Just thought that I would agree with Adrian. My votes are with either Brighton or London(not that is on the southcoast but it is southern and pretty central). Jake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From smfisher at xxx.edu Tue Oct 27 17:51:13 1998 From: smfisher at xxx.edu (Stephanie) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:51:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Athens show Message-ID: To everyone going to the Athens show, I really want to participate in the meet up but don't think I can. :( However, I'd still really love to meet some of you, so feel free to come up and say hi if you see me at the 40 Watt or around there. I'll be wearing a black shirt, and maybe a jacket (also black), weather permitting. I'm about 5'7", and I've got dark brown wavy-ish hair that's right now just past my shoulders. I think that's a good idea about having some way to recognize each other, anyone have any suggestions? Cheers, Stephanie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Tue Oct 27 17:59:52 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:59:52 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: south for south west Message-ID: About the meeting proposed by Adrian in Devon or surroundings and the second proposal, in Brighton or London, by Jake, when would it be? Christmas or New Year's Eve?NO,I have to be at home then...snifff Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aszolnoki at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 18:35:10 1998 From: aszolnoki at xxx.com (Andras Zalan Szolnoki) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:35:10 PST Subject: Sinister: A Poem Message-ID: <19981027183511.15386.qmail@hotmail.com> I read your letters my friends Turned off the machine and had no-one left ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From debbie.spiers at xxx.ca Tue Oct 27 15:50:00 1998 From: debbie.spiers at xxx.ca (debbie.spiers at xxx.ca) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:50:00 -0500 () Subject: Sinister: russian midget strippers Message-ID: bet nobody who missed a B&S show can say they saw russian midget strippers as a filler!! i'm sure jessica is the only one still reading this, so to you i'll say, you (and i'm quite dislexic, so sorry about the name axo!), didn't miss much. the midgets had already left, so there we sat, the only two females that had more on than our bras, in a strip club. if anyone else is reading this, please don't form any opinions of canadian sinisterines. we had, of course, had a few too many at the pub. which is something else i must apologize for. i tend to ramble once i've downed a few, and now looking back, am rather embarresed. next time remind me not to get pissed until i've known everyone at the table at least a day! so who's up for a bus tour of the american west coast, if and when B&S tour there?!! i'll drive! okay, gotta go to english. we're reading As I Lay Dying, which is how i feel after hearing the words REFUND instead of RESCHEDULED. oh well. hope last nights show was great and isobelle was better!! cheers deb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Tue Oct 27 18:45:04 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:45:04 -0000 Subject: Sinister: pants what pants In-Reply-To: <199810270024.AAA06472@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000001be01d9$e9e85100$9f567ec2@whelan> Doo doo dooooooo! Hi again, I am still at Garys and he has told meee I can mail the list again, General Message - to everyone who has mailed me, I'm NOT ignoring you, but my home computer is having teething troubles with no knock out gas, so I am without the mail, booo! Senor Miller! I've listened to your Northern Soul and Reggae extrvaganza, and may I say it is jolly fab! Top marks for ETTA JAMES. Have I already told you how much I like the tape? Ah well, if so here it is again. Your PYNC ROC CYMRAEG tape will be winging its way to you as soon as you send me your address! Mail it to Garys adress, cos my pooter doesn't want to play and is being generally anti-social. Abi Wrote: silly, foolish me forgot to tell you who the poetry parrot will be visiting next. well, he fancies a spell in the company of an "(EX!!) el hombre del mullet and ex-Alarm afficiando", so Gary Done, get your crackers out (matron). Gary tells me to tell you all that he is cacking his pants with fear right at this moment. He has threatened a Julian Cope poem so watcn out pop pickers! I do hope the poetry parrot enjoys his brief stay at Garys house, I am enjoying it, apart from when he PICKS ON ME! He denys it but he does. Humph. OOOOH YES! I saw the SuperLambBanana again yesterday!! There was a car sat next to it with 3 people inside it. Upon asking l'homme de mullete what was going on - he tells me it is a Radio City competition and those people have been sitting in the car for 17 days. The last person left in the car wins it appparently. What twats! Its only a shitty little car anyways! Its not as if its something fab, like a BATMOBILE. Grrrrr I haven't got anything else to say cos I can't be arsed reading fecking tons of digests to, um, highlight the salient points and reply thusly...... I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Sarah They may take my pooter but they will NEVER take my signature! Ha harrrr! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jeni_Morton at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 19:47:17 1998 From: Jeni_Morton at xxx.com (Jeni Morton) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:47:17 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Ink Polaroid-Photo Jeni Message-ID: <00060EBF.4155@rhinorecords.com> this one is of me sitting in front of my computer, you can't see my face, just the back of my neck & jumper, as I'm not feeling to social today and don't fancy my photo being taken....you can see that I'm gazing at the tartan desktop pattern on my computer screen...not really reading the mail in front of me, just looking sort of through the words, because today, they are just words......the clutter of my work space is visible as well, the photos of mates, bands, people I fancy, are on the walls....toys sitting all around as well......you also see to my right, the paper work for my passport and the photos that were taken last week when I was so very ill.....laying next to the passport application are flight schedules & prices to London......sadly, due to financial pain, none of this is copacetic, so I must wait......and I do.....thankfully there are a pile of tapes next to the phone that are from Madame Cholet, and THAT will ease the sadness in the photo..... Photo Jeni xoxoxoxoxo "You made forget my dreams, I was building a space rocket...." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Oct 27 19:03:44 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 20:03:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Peter/Keith/Adrian Message-ID: <01be01dc$857dce40$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Keith and I had the following exchange earlier: >Julian Cope claims that "Blackdance" by Klaus Schutze was >his seduction album. I bought it, just out of curiosity, and >it never fails to send me to sleep. It's pretty good >though - wurp-wurp-wurp - that kind of thing. > > >That's strange you should say that Peter, as I was in Virgin yesterday on >my day off work, and was hearing a bit of Julian "Copey" Cope's new record, >then I kind of thought, hey, there's some bloke that looks dead like Julian >Cope, and then started thinking "Why is there a queue behind this bloke", >so it turns out it is actually Julian Cope, wackily dressed up as Swampy or >something. I believe The Archdrood is on a book promoting tour, with "talks" in Waterstones and so forth. I wouldn't mind going, I bet that book's a good laugh as well as possibly instructional. There's loads of prehistoric cromlechs and dolmens and whathaveyous round here as well, all conveniently situated at the top of mountains. I've been to one, but it just looked like fossilised elephant dung in a little circle. Still powerfully evocative of a bygone age though. While we're on the subject of books, I apologise if I have been inadvertently sending people on a wild duke chase for Dung and Goulash - I thought it was out already, that was the impression I got from the Dukegob website (he's definitely not subscribed, is he?) > I was thinking the other day also about how you could better describe the >great Moog synthesizer, and I hit upon the idea of mentioning great Moog >songs, and came down to my two favourite Moog solos, which come from Ike >and Tina Turner's "Nutbush city limits" and Heatwave's "Boogie nights", >both totally great Moog solos, indeed the former record, so I'm told by my >mum and dad was the first record I ever danced too - so there you go, as >this track came out in 1973 it turns out I'm so cool, I was into Moog solos >from almost before I was born! I wouldn't know a Moog solo if it bit me to be honest, unless the record has the word "Moog" in the title. I believe Stevie Wonder used them, so I'm nominating the instrumental bit with playlet from Living For The City, a song also covered by Ike and Tina. Popol Vuh's epic Vuh also features a Moog, but tread carefully, I think they probably lived inside it during the making of the album. I believe Amon Duul II borrowed it at a later date, so you might be able to spot it on that tape, Keith. Adrian Evans wrote: Peter out Miller in out in.....that Starsky and Hutch is very good. I have a picture I did on the old windows paintbrush of Dougall from the old supernatural whirlygig fame that I want to send to Honeys Mummy page. Unfortunately it's in .BMP format and I don't know what to do to make it .jpg friendly. HELP !!! I have no idea what .jpg format is, my Starsky and Hutch portrait was done with PaintPot or whatever it's called, as included with Windows 95. I've also discovered that if you save your pictures in the Windows folder you can then use them as desktop backgrounds, instead of the usual shite. At the moment we've got a fine portrait of Stuart Mad Dog Murdoch reprimanding the rowdy crowd in London, done by my good lady wife. Jealous, eh? Perhaps it belongs on the ever-expanding Mummy page as well. Has all the shagging talk stopped yet? I do hope so, it puts me off my food a bit. I'm listening to Stevie Wonder now, it's great. If that's not a Moog it bloody well ought to be. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!! Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sandrad at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 20:04:56 1998 From: sandrad at xxx.com (Sandra Duric) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:04:56 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Peter/Keith/Adrian In-Reply-To: <01be01dc$857dce40$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981027150456.00937200@mail.accu-staff.com> >> I was thinking the other day also about how you could >better describe the >>great Moog synthesizer, and I hit upon the idea of >mentioning great Moog >>songs, and came down to my two favourite Moog solos, which >come from Ike >>and Tina Turner's "Nutbush city limits" and Heatwave's >"Boogie nights", >>both totally great Moog solos, indeed the former record, so >I'm told by my >>mum and dad was the first record I ever danced too - so >there you go, as >>this track came out in 1973 it turns out I'm so cool, I was >into Moog solos >>from almost before I was born! > >I wouldn't know a Moog solo if it bit me to be honest, >unless the record has the word "Moog" in the title. I >believe Stevie Wonder used them, so I'm nominating the >instrumental bit with playlet from Living For The City, a >song also covered by Ike and Tina. Popol Vuh's epic Vuh also >features a Moog, but tread carefully, I think they probably >lived inside it during the making of the album. I believe >Amon Duul II borrowed it at a later date, so you might be >able to spot it on that tape, Keith. Speaking of great Moog solos, the day after the cancelled B+S show in Toronto, my friend pulls out all his Miami Vice tapes, surround sounds it and wow. The intro song is all moog, even the bit that sounds like a guitar solo. And the bass is so thick, the foundation was rumbling! Who'd of thought. Frustrating syths to play though. An art-form I think if you want to graduate past the bleepy sounds. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Tue Oct 27 20:11:02 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:11:02 -0500 Subject: Sinister: ink polaroid left over from the boston show Message-ID: so here's an ink polaroid i wrote as an afterthought of the boston show. you're going to have to pardon any strange typing errors. i just got glasses yesterday and i'm still getting used to them. it may not look like much, but it's my favorite. i took this one just to keep my memory alive, knowing i would forget it if i didn't get a snapshot. see, that's stuart david there with the light blue jacket on. he's standing by the tourbus outside the morse auditorium in boston. i'm standing there next to him wearing that big black fuzzy wool hooded coat. i'm kind of leaning over his shoulder, and you can almost see that he's holding a book in his hand. actually, the book that this picture was originally written in. he's signing the back of it. he asked me my name, but couldn't think of anything to say, so it just says "to kerry, stuart david." -kerry "you will have a boy tonight -- maybe you will have a girl tonight -- on the last bus out of town." -belle and sebastian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Tue Oct 27 21:04:54 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 21:04:54 -0000 Subject: Sinister: RE: sinister-digest V2 #441 In-Reply-To: <199810271701.RAA06804@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000001be01ed$725c96a0$180f93c3@whelan> The Right Honourable Windy Miller wrote.... Gary, have you been getting Sarah drunk? I am offended and I demand satisfaction. I am a staunch alcoholic, the last thing I would be doing is giving my valuable drink to the Fluffyone. Nah as it happens, Sarah helped a friend of mine work his way through a bottle of wine or four, so yes she was pissed, but it was nothing to do with me. As I write.... Or should that be type ?. The Fluffster is standing over my shoulder, demanding that I shift my arse, so she can get the computer to make South Park related noises... so I'm off and HHHEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRREEEEEEESSSSS FLUFFY.... 'ello sailors :) Just remembered, Elisabeth petula woman! I have bought you orange kitkats again, loads of them, send me your address again, I've lost it!! I don't know if you'll get this mail for ages, cos I HOPE you are too busy snogging and holding hands with your boyfriend!!! Elisabeth I have had enough with yours and Tags subtle flirting on the list, just get godammed married will you, make an honest man out of Tag. Go on.....can I go to the wedding??? Ooh, Mark, who goes to UWE - do you like it? I've applied to UWE, but as I have never been to Bristol, I don't know what its like! Honey's back!! *mwah* hoooray! The list is once again honeyfied :) Which is a very good thing. I like honey sandwiches!!! They are lovely and sweet but my mate Daniel says I am a sick freak. What would he know anyway. Ha. One of his anthems is EEEZER GOODE EEEEZER GOODE, rave rave help me!! Rave is a big pile of poo and it stinks. I don't know what else to say, Gary do you have anything to add? Uuuum, no. OK then, we're going to go away for some snogging now, I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Sarah (and Gary) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mm_kulik at xxx.EDU Tue Oct 27 21:12:15 1998 From: mm_kulik at xxx.EDU (Mothra) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:12:15 -0400 Subject: Sinister: spoke to matador today...YAY!!!!!!!! Message-ID: helllllooooooo everybodyyyyyy!!!!! i spoke to my friendly college promotions rep. at matador today, as i work in college radio, and he informed me that although they do not have any more tickets to the d.c. show on friday, which i hoped to attend, b&s are trying very hard to reschedule the philly show for some time next week after the new york show, but that this is only a very slight possibility...SO, if they don't make it next week (which is highly likely since they would have to find an available venue and sell tickets on such short notice), they plan to swing by philly on the west coast tour that they're planning for the winter, tentatively set for january!!!!!! GOOD NEWS, eh?? i know it made *my* day!!! SASSY. love, moira ********************************** Moira Kulik Box 906 Franklin & Marshall College P.O. Box 3220 Lancaster, PA 17604-3220 mm_kulik at acad.fandm.edu Music Director, WFNM Franklin & Marshall College Box 90 Lancaster, PA 17604 business line: 717/291.4098 office hours: tues/thurs 2 to 5 pm ********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jlphilli at xxx.edu Tue Oct 27 22:14:20 1998 From: jlphilli at xxx.edu (jennifer phillips-bacher) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:14:20 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Chicago gig/SCROLL DOWN FOR SMUT Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19981027161420.009279c0@students.wisc.edu> hello all. instead of reviewing exam material such as antonio gramsci's theories on cultural hegemony, i've decided to examine the issues of last night's gig in chicago. Issue #1: Isobel Isobel was stunning in her pleated skirt although she was, as Katrina suggested, a bit off-colour. When i briefly spoke to Stuart M. and Sarah before the show, they said she was much better and keeping her tea down. Issue #2: la musica firstly, let me say it was absolute PERFECTION. my ears were so happy they were about to jump off of my head. really. the band seemed to be quite jovial...must've been the san pelligrino. it does it for me everytime. i was standing on the balcony, which i think was really a good choice cause i could see the entire stage from there, even the piano that was plunked down in the corner where stuart would go hide every once in awhile. and i'm short, so being high up really helped. i generally don't pay attention to the setlist, but this time i had lots of friends that couldn't come so i wrote all of the songs on my hand. i can't seem to wash them off, so i'll type them here: 1. century of fakers 2. i know where the summer goes 3. seeing other people 4. chickfactor 5. lord anthony 6. dirty dream #2 7. is it wicked not to care? 8. slow grafitti 9. it could've been a brilliant career 10. lazy line painter jane 11.paper boat 12. dog on wheels 13. wrong love 14. loneliness of a middle distance runner i was so happy to hear the new songs. some grumpuses standing next to me wanted only to hear songs that they knew and could sing along with. pah! isobel said that her and stevie's voices were a bit scratchy due to illnesses, but they sounded absolutely lovely. stuart m. doesn't know this, but we're going to meet later in life and fall madly in love and run off to an island and live in a tiki hut, drink margaritas and fruit smoothies and play lots of trivial pursuit. i know this for sure because my psychic told me. Issue #4: SMUT ok. if you've read this far, i trust you enough to hear a confession. it won't be a full confession as i'm still a bit unsure of myself. well, as a common practice, i have frequent sex dreams. generally i don't know the person...he's usually some faceless mystery guy. other times it's someone that i recognize (no, not a comedian). well......oh gosh, i'm feeling shy now. (just say it just say it). ok, well, i had a sex dream with a list person who will remain anonymous. i will only say that a photo(or two...) is posted on honey's site and i've never met this person in real life ever and it's just so strange how my dream world managed to animate a photo. and it's not st. lucy. i feel somewhat relieved. the butterflies are leaving my stomach now. jenn xoxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Scott_Turner at xxx.COM Tue Oct 27 22:26:11 1998 From: Scott_Turner at xxx.COM (Scott Turner) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:26:11 -0500 Subject: Sinister: REM- up Message-ID: <852566AA.007A8D01.00@JHMAIL.JH.COM> just got the new rem album. its REALLY good- alot more melodic, experimentive and honest than anything they've done in a long time. stipe's songwriting has gone to a new level. more accessible, more sincere, as his voice has also become more golden. i dig em better without the wanker drummer- they pull off loops carefully and delicately without sounding like bad electronica B&S content: what sweet sweet news from matador aye phellow philly phans? hope. hope. .scott +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rorshach at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 22:41:14 1998 From: rorshach at xxx.com ((a) clockwork chicken) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:41:14 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: field mice compilation? Message-ID: <199810272241.QAA06573@earth.execpc.com> hi all, i've searched and searched on the www for the tracklisting of the new field mice 2Xcd comp (shinkansen's website is incredibly secretive. what are they hiding?)...my copy won't be arriving for at least three weeks and i'm all a'slavering to know what's on there. can anyone help me out? i would be forever in your debt. thanks in advance for any assistance, doug // (a)c.c. -- rorshach at execpc.com http://www.execpc.com/~rorshach/index.html There are so many groups now that just play the same things over and over, and this is why i had to get rid of a lot of people in the group because they felt that was it, they've mastered their instrument and think, "oh well, I can play the same chord brilliantly for six minutes", which is ah - you should get a bleedin' machine to do that. You know, the thing is to play it with an inflection. -Mark E. Smith, 1985 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 23:05:56 1998 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:05:56 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Black Sessions Message-ID: <199810271806_MC2-5E40-50FE@compuserve.com> Hi Smutty Ones, Merci millefois a cher Philippe and also great big thanks to Jake (Jake?..Oh my God they killed Kenny!) for the tape that arrived yesterday. I haven't had time to listen to it all yet as my daughter got to it first so I could only get to hear some in the car today. (Can't wait for side two and the first hearing of some of the unreleased stuff. Then I can be a genuine poser too :) )However the tune of Century of Fakers still did its amazing hair on end trick and I enjoyed the breathless rush through Poupee de Cire, Poupee de Son. Love to Isobel and hope she's up and galloping at full tilt again soon. Speaking of people being up in the saddle again its nice to see a couple of lewd and lascivious posts from dear HoneyPaul. Afore-mentioned first born hired Boogie Nights last night and I realised that all that talk of gigantic telescopes is just a poorly conceived cover story for Honey's real job, and that the character of Dirk Diggler is firmly based on him. Get well to you too. (Daren't say "soon", 'cause I know a bit about living with someone with ME. But it will happen in the end. Especially if you concentrate on the smuttier bits of life!) Love to all. Even when faced with 4 or 5 digests a day I can't bring myself to just delete any unread. David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nanettee at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 23:12:10 1998 From: Nanettee at xxx.com (Nanettee at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:12:10 EST Subject: Sinister: Shag album/newbie! Message-ID: <776b697d.3636534a@aol.com> At the top of my current list as far as "booty music" is Massive Attack's "Mezzanine" (mainly cause of the Liz Fraser songs)...Cure's "Disintegration" is up there too...and Tricky's "Maxinquaye." also, I'm new to the list. I'm Nanette, I'm 24, I'm from Chicago, I saw the show last night and it was wonderful, incredible, (insert other adjective describing wonderment/excitement here). pleased to meet you all. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stan88432 at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 23:23:55 1998 From: stan88432 at xxx.com (Stan) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:23:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: URGENT! Help B&S NOW!!!! Message-ID: <199810272323.PAA19008@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> I'm writing from Boston. The program director at WXRV has agreed to add B&S to the station playlist if he gets at least 100 legitimate requests to do so. WXRV specializes in sort of cool mellow rock and plays bands like Elliott Smith, Semisonic, Barenaked Ladies, Lucinda Williams,Peter Droge, Shawn Mullins, Dada, Neil Finn. They are the coolest station in Boston and currently locked in a head to head battle against the other so-called cool station WFNX (which refuses to play B&S but has alannis morrissette in heavy rotation). Please go to the following website and fill out the on-line survey and request they add B&S to the playlist. You'll have to pretend you live in boston or they won't count it. Also, when listing music you listen to besides B&S, please make sure it fits the XRV playlist or they will ignore your request. That means no posting Marilyn Manson and Tool! Pick other mellow cool bands like aphex twin and spiritualized, for example. If you don't live in Boston, then write WFNX as the station you currently listen to when not listening to WXRV. The address is "http://www.wxrv.com/frame/playlist.html" B&S has done so much for you. Do something for them! And while you're at it, you can always send an e-mail to: WFNX at WFNX.COM and demand they play B&S too!!! Thanks! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Arigreen23 at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 23:41:34 1998 From: Arigreen23 at xxx.com (Arigreen23 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:41:34 EST Subject: Sinister: philly show? - and hi Message-ID: first, hi to the person who just joined the list! i would address you by name by i accidentally (spelling, hmm) deleted the e-mail...so hi anyway! on another note... When taking our tickets back to the trocadero, my father talked to some people there and they said something about having B & S back to do the show...anyone know if this is true??? ari +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vauxhall42 at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 01:20:53 1998 From: vauxhall42 at xxx.com (Zach B.) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:20:53 PST Subject: Sinister: another TWATTYBUS review Message-ID: <19981028012053.21057.qmail@hotmail.com> i checked the archives, and didn't see this one, so here's a review of TBWTAS from Drawer B (http://www.space-age-bachelor.com/drawerb) This follow up to the very brilliant If You�re Feeling Sinister has a lot to live up to since this overly shy eight-piece band from Glasgow, Scotland has graced the unlikely pages of Entertainment Weekly and been name dropped on the MTV Video Music Awards. Belle & Sebastian write heartbreaking, simple pop songs characterized by lead vocalist Stuart Murdoch�s light melancholic cadences, which bear a disturbing resemblance to the late great Nick Drake. The song structures are reminiscent of early Velvet Underground while the melodies hint at traces of both The Smiths and Felt. This album while neither as delicate nor as sentimental as its predecessor is perfect melancholic pop. The lyrics take the minutiae of mundane everyday life and glorify it with the intensity of high school journal keepers while maintaining a sinister sense of humor: �Take Judy with her bow and arrow she�s a mastermind/Too frumpy for the teenage population of her time/Car coat she has a quilted jacket with a hood if it rains/Big pockets for the pharmaceuticals she takes to fix her brain (�The Rollercoaster Ride�). This is Belle & Sebastian�s third full length- their first album, Tigermilk, is extremely hard to come by as only 1,000 (vinyl) copies were pressed in England- and it displays quite a bit more confidence both lyrically and musically. The album occasionally loses focus, however, when Murdoch passes the microphone to some of his bandmates, whose voices fail to create the intimacy that separates Belle & Sebastian from legions of other like-minded bands. This album succeeds in being a bit more adventurous with electric guitars edging into the forefront (�A Summer Wasting�, �Simple Things�) and its sparing use of synthetics, but things do digress slightly with an unwelcome foray into spoken word (�A Space Boy Dream�). Such minor missteps are rare and easily overlooked in the wake of a flawless song like �Ease Your Feet Into The Sea.� Belle & Sebastian seem wide-eyed and innocent with singsong melodies and bright, poppy arrangements, but there is a dark element that rears its head from time to time letting you know that they know what they�re doing. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- zach b. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 02:44:10 1998 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 20:44:10 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: shag-a-lang-a-ding-dong In-Reply-To: <704AE307AB53D2119EE300805F7DF755E31F@NCMSERVER> Message-ID: I have to suggest Merzbow's _Music for Bondage Performance_. Bondage isn't my thing, but the record is very oddly sensual...lots of metallic droning and scraping. (Also one must consider that bondage in Japanese culture is an artful cooperation between the partners -- so I read in the liner notes anyway...) On the other hand, Erik Satie's gentle piano music or Chopin's Nocturnes would do nicely as well. --Mark __ Available now: SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 < Distributed by Dutch East India Trading and Carrot Top Distribution > < http://www.xnet.com/~mkolmar/BurningRome > < MP3 & RealAudio tracks > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mdellima at xxx.com Tue Oct 27 23:31:03 1998 From: mdellima at xxx.com (mark del lima) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:31:03 -0800 Subject: Sinister: URGENT! Help B&S NOW!!!! Message-ID: <199810272331.PAA34710@scv2.apple.com> OK. WXRV is beyond horrible but FNX is even worse. I'll send a reply for the sake of B&S though. >I'm writing from Boston. The program director at WXRV has agreed to add B&S >to the station playlist if he gets at least 100 legitimate requests to do >so. WXRV specializes in sort of cool mellow rock and plays bands like >Elliott Smith, Semisonic, Barenaked Ladies, Lucinda Williams,Peter Droge, >Shawn Mullins, Dada, Neil Finn. > >They are the coolest station in Boston and currently locked in a head to >head battle against the other so-called cool station WFNX (which refuses to >play B&S but has alannis morrissette in heavy rotation). > >Please go to the following website and fill out the on-line survey and >request they add B&S to the playlist. You'll have to pretend you live in >boston or they won't count it. Also, when listing music you listen to >besides B&S, please make sure it fits the XRV playlist or they will ignore >your request. That means no posting Marilyn Manson and Tool! Pick other >mellow cool bands like aphex twin and spiritualized, for example. If you >don't live in Boston, then write WFNX as the station you currently listen to >when not listening to WXRV. > >The address is "http://www.wxrv.com/frame/playlist.html" > >B&S has done so much for you. Do something for them! And while you're at >it, you can always send an e-mail to: WFNX at WFNX.COM and demand they play B&S >too!!! > >Thanks! > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Blur245 at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 03:14:31 1998 From: Blur245 at xxx.com (Blur245 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 22:14:31 EST Subject: Sinister: Athens Here We Come Message-ID: <7ec8d51b.36368c17@aol.com> Hi Well The show is tomorrow and we are packing are bags and heading to Georgie but my god we are we staying every hotel is checked out woe is me.Anyway I will be wearing a Grey sweater and a harrington jacket and black converse,Say hello to me any way see everyone tomorrow night. Bye +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AvaBelle at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 03:38:20 1998 From: AvaBelle at xxx.com (AvaBelle at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 22:38:20 EST Subject: Sinister: Hi... I'm new to the list... Message-ID: <5019d25b.363691ac@aol.com> I saw B&S last night at the Metro, they were amazing. I am glad that I drove the 3 hours to see them, it was WELL worth it. This seems like a great mailing list, and I hope to get to know all of you. ~Stacey *your obsessions get you known throughout the school for being strange...* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DSchanding at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 03:46:56 1998 From: DSchanding at xxx.com (DSchanding at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 22:46:56 EST Subject: Sinister: Athens Here We Come Message-ID: Hi...I am going to Athens to see them from Lexington, KY. I was supposed to go with a friend of mine, but they screwed me over, so i guess I have to go alone :( ....Soooo, I have got an extra ticket. I don't know if it's sold out or anything, but if anyone wants to buy my extra ticket, just let me know.....Geez, a 6 hour drive alone.....haven't done that in a while. Write me back at dschanding at aol.com. David +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sabin_o at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 04:00:09 1998 From: sabin_o at xxx.com (S. M. O.) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 04:00:09 GMT Subject: Sinister: California Message-ID: <19981028040009.6602.qmail@hotmail.com> Does anyboy know if Belle & Sebastian are going to ever play the West Coast? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ringin at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 04:22:27 1998 From: ringin at xxx.com (Richard Ingram) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 23:22:27 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Radio Interview Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981027232227.006d2af0@pop.mindspring.com> Today on an Atlanta college radio station, 3 members of Belle & Sebastion interviewed, and played some of their record collection recently purchased on the road.(Chris mainly). They were just hanging out in Atlanta with the day off before Wednesday night's show in Athens. See you there. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From whatev at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 05:19:45 1998 From: whatev at xxx.com (Steven) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 00:19:45 -0500 Subject: Sinister: chicago gig review Message-ID: <01be0232$93e91920$4ed2b4cf@station2> Well, I just got back into town from Chicago(I live in Cleveland), so I thought l'd share my thoughts about the show with the list. First of all it was definitely a wonderful night. Everywhere I went over the weekend l kept hearing people whispering about b&s, wondering if it was going to happen or not. I truly feel sorry for the people in Philly and Toronto, it really did make the Chicago crowd appreciative, though. I don't think anyone really believed they would play until they actually came out on stage, Isobel carrying her "get well Isobel" floaty baloon with her. They only played for just over an hour, which everyone thought was too short, but everyone would have thought so if they played all night, i'm sure. Below is what they played, not in order, though. The last three I don't know the names, but I jotted down a portion of the lyric I could remember. century of fakers lazy line painter jane dog on wheels seeing other people it could have been a brilliant career is it wicked not to care dirty dream #2 chickfactor lord anthony wrong girl paper boat "walk into this station" "I know where the summer goes" "musle skin and bones" I was disappointed by no Tigermilk songs, and only 1 Sinister song, but 6(!) new ones made up for it. I was really suprised by the amount of instrument swapping in between songs, and they didn't take as long in between songs as some people have been saying. After seeing them in person, I'd have to say Stevie is the cute one of the bunch, even though I had a dirty dream about Stuart M. last night. I was at a party(in the dream) and Stuart was playing some songs on his guitar, and he kept lifting up the leg of his shorts and showing me what he's made of(he wasn't wearing an english cock cage). Don't worry, I didn't touch, I only looked:) Stuart's voice was just absolutely perfect. Someone else brought it up, but you always think they do something in the studio to make his voice so perfect, but hearing him in person just brought out the natural crystal clear beauty in it. The show was surely one for the history books. I'm really hoping they come back to the states in the spring despite the sickness and all. I really want to take another trip that I can't afford to see the best band around. Love, Steven (the boy who sells arab straps) p.s. On the misheard lyric front, for the longest time I thought the opening line to "seeing other people" was "Renee on a bad day, kissing just for practise." It kinda changes the song a bit. p.p.s Would anyone like to tape the radio sessions from 97 for me? please email me personally, I'm sure we could work something out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carrick44 at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 05:41:46 1998 From: carrick44 at xxx.com (Carrick C Blair) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 00:41:46 EST Subject: Sinister: All for one and one for all Message-ID: <19981027.235753.4591.10.carrick44@juno.com> That was going to be my title for my post about the incident in Philadelphia. Followed by its only rock and roll. I meant to report sooner but, access and tiredness prevented me. So many days have passed now, and happier things are going on in Chicago and Georgia. Its best to dwell on those I suppose. And it seems like for most part everybody handled things the best they could considering the situation. It must be because of Honey's well-meaning discipline that everybody behaved so well. We ran into Neil almost right away when we got to the club and he informed us of Isobel's condition. Whenever someone is sick enough to go to the hospital, that's time to start worrying. All I can say on the matter is that I'm glad the band waited to the last minute to cancel. I was enjoying the wait myself. I was with my friends, there was plenty of good beer, I like the Housemartins, so I didn't mind hearing the entire "That's what I call quite good" double lp twice in a row, I was able to chat a little bit with wee Chris and Neil, and finally, I got to have a long chat and catch up on list gossip with Michele as we lingered in the back alley looking like a couple of lost groupies. (Speaking of which, I would like to apologize to the couple of kids who were chased away by the angered security guard. Angered by my friends who made an unwise decision to try and sneak in the back door. They meant well, but sometimes they don't think things through. It was somewhat funny when he threatened to break my friends arm. Do bouncers have the right to do that? Probably.) And now it seems that the band wants to return to Philadelphia as soon as possible. Chris having to announce the cancellation must of been really tough. Talking to him before hand, you could sense how excited he was about playing. He mentioned how none of the band had been there before, and yet look at the turnout. He also said that he walked into a cafe the day before and they were playing the album. He really likes Philadelphia. When he came out on stage and delivered the sad news, he just stood there taking the abuse. Captain Chris indeed. Three cheers..... The rest my weekend down in Pennsylvania was beyond perfect. Lovely weather. Falling asleep in the sun. Larissa and Shilough from my Boston story singing If you're feeling sinister... To bad we couldn't have stolen away Isobel for the day. Recuperating in an old victorian house, looking out on freshly cut corn fields, instead of being cooped up in some ugly hospital/hotel/tour bus. Shilough's sisters could have brought her tea and scones and all sorts of home remedies, while his mom could have entertained the rest of the band with her stories of seeing the Velvet Underground, and hanging out with Bob Dylan and The Band. This was supposed to be short(er). I'll work on that. Bye Carrick one more thing.... Jackson Browne - Doctor My Eyes Boy with the Arab Strap ______________________________ ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From akemi at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 08:44:05 1998 From: akemi at xxx.com (Nicole A. Sakai) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 00:44:05 -0800 Subject: Sinister: the time was passed so easily Message-ID: <3636D955.B95CA209@seanet.com> Dear all, This is going to hurt me more than it hurts you, but I'm afraid I have to leave you for a while. No no, it's not you it's me. I need to go and settle some things, but I promise to be back, though under a different guise. I really have enjoyed the hours of reading enjoyment the list has brought me, as well as enabling me to settle comfortably into my B&S addiction. If anyone is interested in some new music, there are two bands here in Seattle who have released CDs that I absolutely adore. They both have a really clean sound that tugs on your heart strings. #1. Tullycraft- This is perfect music for those pouty days when you feel like everyone else has had first pick from your toybox. #2. The Melody Unit- Check them out! Ian Curtis meets Liz Fraser- both boy and girl vocalists (both really cute, too). CD is called "Wax Cylinder." Wish you were here, Jacob Laurent +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Wed Oct 28 09:03:03 1998 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:03:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ease Your Feet tab References: Message-ID: <3636DDC6.FCAB712D@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Hi , i think that there is a mistake in ease your feet tab. My correction is : no A# , but Bb. I write the song with my correction : F Ease your feet off in the sea Bb My darling it's the place to be F Take your shoes off curl your toes Bb And I will frame this moment in time F Troubles come and troubles go Bb The trouble that we,ve come to know F Will stay with us till we get old Bb C Will stay with us till somebody decides to go Bb Bbm Decides to go ................till the end....... Marco#7. IndiaRubb at aol.com ha scritto: > Err, I'm gonna send them separately, since some are a bit long. I'm gonna > send 3 now, and I just need to polish up my tabs for Ditry Dream #2 and Simple > Things. Maybe I'll finish Chickfactor, as well. > > Ease Your Feet In The Sea > > Just the basic chords. The guitar doing the more noodley stuff is a bit too > random to tab out, though it's all based around the same chords, though the F > is done higher up the fretboard (ie as a barre A chord on the 8/10 frets). I > think said guitar is capo'd at the 6th fret actually, just to make it easier. > I've tabbed out the solo, though. > > Intro: just F, the little riff you hear goes like this > > e-------------- > b-------------- > G-------------- > D-------------- > A------7-8-7-8- > E-8-10--------- > > F > Ease your feet off in the sea > > A# > My darling it's the place to be > > F > Take your shoes off curl your toes > > A# > And I will frame this moment in time > > F > Troubles come and troubles go > > A# > The trouble that we've come to know > > F > Will stay with us till we get old > > A# C > Will stay with us till somebody decides to go > > A# > Decides to go > > Soberly, without regret, I make another sandwich > And I fill my face, I know that things have got to you > But what can I do? > Suddenly, without a warning > On a pale blue morning > You decide your time is wearing thin > A conscious choice to let yourself go... > > C > dangling > > Cm > Hovering > > A# > It's an emergency > > A#m > There's no more "wait and see" > > F A# (repeat during the string section bit) > > Maybe if I shut my eyes > Your trouble will be split between us > People come and people go > You're scouring everybodies face > For some small flicker of the truth > To what it is that you are going through, my boy > I left you dry > The signs were clear that you were not going... > > C > anywhere > > Cm > Anywhere > > A# > Save for a falling down > > A#m > Save for a falling down > > C > Anywhere > > C (not minor, this time) > Anywhere > > A# > Save for a falling down > > G# F# (repeat G# to F# 3 times, then go to F for the rest of the > solo) > Everything's going wrong > > Solo: Play this during the above line. Number of hits on a string isn't > necessarily exact here, just listen to the song. > > e------------------------------------------------------------------- > b--9-9999-9-9-9-7-7777-7-7-7-9-9999-9-9-9-11--11-11-11-11--11-11-11- > G------------------------------------------------------------------- > D------------------------------------------------------------------- > A------------------------------------------------------------------- > E------------------------------------------------------------------- > > e-------------------------------------------------------------- > b--12-12-12-12--11-9-99-7-7-7-7-9-9999-9-9-9-9-9999-7-10-9-7--- > G------------------------------------------------------------9- > D-------------------------------------------------------------- > A-------------------------------------------------------------- > E-------------------------------------------------------------- > > e-------------------------------------------------------------- > b-------13--10-10-11--------11-10-10----11--------------------- > G--7/10--------------10--10----------10----10-10--------------- > D-------------------------------------------------------------- > A-------------------------------------------------------7-8---- > E--------------------------------------------------8-10-------- > > Later on, as I walked home > The plough was showing, and orion > I could see the house where you lived > I could see the house where you gave > All your time and sanity to people > Then you waited for the people to acknowledge you > They spoke in turn > But their eyes would pass... > > C > over you > > Cm > Over you > > A# > Who's seeing you at all? > > Who's seeing you at all? > > Any corrections, etc. send mail to IndiaRubb at aol.com > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Charlotte.Hall at xxx.uk Wed Oct 28 10:56:27 1998 From: Charlotte.Hall at xxx.uk (Charlotte Hall) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:56:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: songs of love Message-ID: <0010C496.CE21213@smlawpub.co.uk> This talk of the right kind of music for lurrvvve is all very well, but what about the wrong kind of music? Someone I used to go out with had a mood tape for the laydeez which had that Momus song that goes "Girl you know it's true.... girl I'm only doing it to get next to you." Nothing wrong with that, you might think, but this was followed by Ravel's Bolero and then for a triumphant finale Nessun Dorma... beat that for ill-judged. (I'm not naming and shaming him because he's known to at least one person on this list.) I agree with whoever said that Belle and Sebastian doesn't work in that context. There's too much going on in the sound. "...As he wets himself for the final time" - you can't convince me that's the ideal soundtrack for passion. I like the idea of a list meet-up in London, though I might be too shy to go. I went to the Poetry Cafe last week to see a friend of a friend's rather lacklustre paintings. I expected to find the point jumping with Belle and Sebastian fans. I couldn't even get the guy behind the bar to play TWATTYBUS. Julian Cope's book looks cool. All that quasi-mysticism, knolls and sacred stones. I'm giving it to my Dad for his Christmas. Charlotte +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ETLRDHY at xxx.se Wed Oct 28 10:18:03 1998 From: ETLRDHY at xxx.se (ETLRDHY at xxx.se) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:18:03 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Brighton,Brighton,Brighton Message-ID: <002566AB.003878B6.00@notes.ericsson.se> Yes. Everyone should meet up in Brighton, on New Years Eve, at My house, Everyone in THE WORLD!!!!!!! RicHARD +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ETLRDHY at xxx.se Wed Oct 28 10:31:12 1998 From: ETLRDHY at xxx.se (ETLRDHY at xxx.se) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:31:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Have you ever noticed Message-ID: <002566AB.0039B0B6.00@notes.ericsson.se> How Belle and Sebastien manage to sound almost exaclty like Love but somehow manage to sound original? RIchardxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Wed Oct 28 11:57:51 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:57:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: jeepster-news: snow patrol new single and tour! Message-ID: <363706BF.79E3B4E8@jeepster.co.uk> Hi everyone! Well, we thought that releasing three albums in the space of 4 weeks was hectic and stupid and shouldn't be done again ... so guess what? I have news of forthcoming singles and tours by snow patrol and Salako, released one week after the other! The theme this month is "double a-sided singles" ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ snow patrol release their double a-side single "velocity girl"/"absolute gravity" on november 9th 1998. released on limited edition 7" (JPR7007) and cd-single (JPRCDS007) which features the bonus track "when you're right, you're right" and is distributed by 3mv/pinnacle. this is what the boys had to say about the single ... hibernation is over, forget your cotton wool and water, snow patrol have come out to feed. don't put out nuts and berries, they're looking for the big kill. the national monkey reserves have been mobilised for the velocity girl/absolute gravity offensive. pulling out all the stops, a double a-side strategy has been chosen as the best course of action. softly softly, catch a monkey, "velocity girl" catches up with you after all the years of smiling in the street but not actually saying hello. a warm, warped love song, an understated highlight from the debut album songs for polar bears. it sounds like burt bacharach pouring hot chip fat onto the back of cyndi lauper's hand, accidentally on purpose. also looming large is "absolute gravity", here to get mischievous with your dutch caps. turntable tactician, tom simpson, a regular live contributor, takes this tune somewhere else. low down and dirty, it sounds like two elephants fighting over the love of a small mouse. swaggering drunkenly like a sailor looking for a fight, it demands your attention and has long been a live favourite. (ooh, bloody hell they're strange! maybe we shouldn't get the bands to write their press releases after all ... just joking!) the band are also touring the UK throughout november, so catch snow patrol live at one of the following dates: november 1st aberdeen, drummonds café 9th london, borderline 10th* dublin, olympia theatre 11th* belfast, ulster hall 14th* ipswich, regent 15th* watford, coliseum 16th* guildford, civic hall 18th* reading, hexagon 19th* liverpool, royal court 20th* middlesborough, town hall 22nd* sunderland, empire 23rd* glasgow, barrowlands 24th dundee, drouthy neebors (*support dates with the hip and happening levellers) december 7th mtv live right, so we'll see you at one of the gigs then? make sure you bring your dog on a string ;) ... Salako details coming your way soon! Cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- .this message came from the jeepster records news list . .visit our site at http://www.jeepster.co.uk for more info . . . .to unsubscribe yourself from this list send a message to . .majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'unsubscribe news' in the body. .of the message . . . .any problems? then simply send a mailto:owner-news at jeepster.co.uk . ----------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ETLRDHY at xxx.se Wed Oct 28 13:03:04 1998 From: ETLRDHY at xxx.se (ETLRDHY at xxx.se) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:03:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: B&S Tabs Message-ID: <002566AB.0047891F.00@notes.ericsson.se> Dear All, Any tabs would be grately appreciated. Regards RIchard P.s. Not like, acid though or fags orrrrrr keys from old typewriters?? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mm_kulik at xxx.EDU Wed Oct 28 13:14:50 1998 From: mm_kulik at xxx.EDU (Mothra) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:14:50 -0400 Subject: Sinister: b&s on the west coast Message-ID: >Does anyboy know if Belle & Sebastian are going to ever play the West >Coast? the college promo department at matador told me that they plan to tour the west coast in january or thereabouts (with plans to stop over in philly and do the show they cancelled!!!). moira ********************************** Moira Kulik Box 906 Franklin & Marshall College P.O. Box 3220 Lancaster, PA 17604-3220 mm_kulik at acad.fandm.edu Music Director, WFNM Franklin & Marshall College Box 90 Lancaster, PA 17604 business line: 717/291.4098 office hours: tues/thurs 2 to 5 pm ********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atieger at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 14:10:20 1998 From: atieger at xxx.com (aaron tieger) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 06:10:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: radio, on your radio Message-ID: <19981028141020.14431.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> No way, Mark. Hands down the best station in Boston is WZBC, 90.3 (or something), the Boston College radio station. Not only do they have a vast playlist ranging from B&S to Nick Cave to 60's garage rock and jazz and blues, but the have great giveaways AND the DJ's actually know a thing or two. Must be that Jesuit education. FNX can bite me. aaron === atieger at rocketmail.com auger/anvil "So goodbye, so long, the road calls me dear and your tears cannot bind me anymore And farewell to the girl with the sun in her eyes I'll kiss you and then I'll be gone" --Tom Waits _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail, free e-mail for the planet. * Visit & explore Cybersmith at http://www.cybersmith.com * Get your web-based e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 70204923 at xxx.ca Wed Oct 28 14:22:33 1998 From: 70204923 at xxx.ca (Sebastian) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:22:33 EST Subject: Sinister: the philadelphia project Message-ID: <1FB3CFA3B83@cs5.conestogac.on.ca> philly this, philly that... fine. has Toronto fallen off the globe? the show was VERY sold-out...grrrrr +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alerche at xxx.net Wed Oct 28 14:17:29 1998 From: alerche at xxx.net (Andre Vieira) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:17:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: songs of love Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981028151729.006cb1ac@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net> Charlotte wrote and then went on to describe perhaps the most innapropriate mood tape ever recorded: > This talk of the right kind of music for lurrvvve is all very well, > but what about the wrong kind of music Well, there was this very very very strange guy in my dorm last semester called Vict*r (* used to protect his privacy) who said he wouldn't have sex until he got married because of his religious beliefs (either until his marriage or until he met a woman with really really massive knockers, whichever suits you best). Well, he had bought this "Best of Arnold Schwartzeneger Soundtracks" CD, with songs taken from Schwartzeneger's movies, such as the all-time classic "Konan the Barbarian". Whenever someone would enter our communal floor kitchen, he'd ask": - "Hey, do you know what CD I bought?" Usual reply (with an annoyed tone of voice): - "No, Vict*r, which one?" - "The Best of Arnold Schwartzeneger Soundtracks! You wanna hear it?" Usual reply (with an equally annoyed tone of voice): - "Maybe later, Vict*r." After observing this scene repeat itself a few times, I approached him and said: - "Hey, Vict*r, do you know what CD I bought?" - "Which one?" - "Love Themes Volume 3. It's great stuff to listen to while you're having sex." (Bear in mind that this was a fictional purchase mentioned only as a joke; I would never, repeat, NEVER buy an album with the sole purpose of shagging to it.) - "Umpf. If I was going to have sex, I would play a techno CD. That way I could keep the rythm." After that, the conversation evolved into uninteresting comparisons between Vict*r and a sledgehammer. I'll spare the list. The moral of the story is: Find out your partner's shag-soundtrack habits before marrying him/her. André. ******************************************************* happy for a day - some belle and sebastian thoughts contact us at: +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fyang at xxx.ca Wed Oct 28 14:24:19 1998 From: fyang at xxx.ca (Frank Yang) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:24:19 -0500 Subject: Sinister: the philadelphia project References: <1FB3CFA3B83@cs5.conestogac.on.ca> Message-ID: <36372913.A654BF5A@itl.ca> Sebastian wrote: > philly this, philly that... > > fine. > > has Toronto fallen off the globe? > the show was VERY sold-out...grrrrr Indeed - just because we're Canadian doesn't mean we'll take this lying down... We'll just protest very quietly and politely, if it's alright with everyone else. The lousiest thing is there aren't even any American shows that are remotely close-by for T.O.-area Canucks to drive to. The Philly make-up would be about it, and even that's about 8 hours away. Does anyone here have any pull with band management? Plead for us. -- Frank Yang "Canadians are people too." -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Wed Oct 28 14:34:07 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:34:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Brighton,Brighton,Brighton In-Reply-To: <002566AB.003878B6.00@notes.ericsson.se> Message-ID: Adrian has been grovelling and begging me to organise a meet in Brighton which is my HOME (he hasn't really, but it's good for my ego to pretend so). But I'm a bit short on ideas of where to go at the moment, so I might turn the question over to you lot. There are some nice places in lovely Brighton by the sea, but currently I can't remember any of them. That's what happens when you go and live in York. Of course, none of you might want to meet me anyway, which is fine. Coming over all insecure, Archel xxx> > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Dorigen.Horlivy at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 14:34:07 1998 From: Dorigen.Horlivy at xxx.com (Horlivy, Dorigen) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:34:07 -0000 Subject: Sinister: No Shows Message-ID: <19671EA2F1A6D011AA5100609731D18201E8627C@ank13s.ibd.gs.com> Awww... New Yorkers of course have another problem. WHile we get many bands we, well I, never get to see any of them because the shows sell out immediately. This, of course, includes B&S. Moan. I'm dorigen, by the way, and I'm new to the list. How are you all? Dorigen ///////////////////////////////////////// Frank wrote this: Indeed - just because we're Canadian doesn't mean we'll take this lying down... We'll just protest very quietly and politely, if it's alright with everyone else. The lousiest thing is there aren't even any American shows that are remotely close-by for T.O.-area Canucks to drive to. The Philly make-up would be about it, and even that's about 8 hours away. Does anyone here have any pull with band management? Plead for us. -- Frank Yang "Canadians are people too." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Wed Oct 28 15:57:04 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:57:04 Subject: Sinister: Black Sessions Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981028155704.3757a8bc@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> David Moore is a very kind person : >Merci millefois a cher Philippe and also great big thanks to Jake >(Jake?..Oh my God they killed Kenny!) for the tape that arrived yesterday. >However the tune of Century of Fakers still did its >amazing hair on end trick and I enjoyed the breathless rush through Poupee >de Cire, Poupee de Son. Love to Isobel and hope she's up and galloping at >full tilt again soon. Some days ago I tried to write the lyrics of Poupee de cire, poupee de son when listening to Isobel "au grand galop", but I failed in understanding all the sentences. Of course I don't mean that Isobel's french is bad! I love her french accent! But some of the lyrics remain obscre. So if someone can help me to achieve this important stuff (the original version by France Gall ?), you know were I am! - He Phillipe, aren't you french ? - hum... yes indeed. There are so many evidences that prove my french citizenship: my english is bad, I love wine and cheese, I don't understand how we won the World Cup, I don't understand why people in UK and USA like Air, my name is Philippe and not Phillipe, I don't eat frogs and snails more that 2 times in a year, and I don't need arab straps. - Oh my god, now it's obvious: you are french! ...Do you want some brownies with your tea ? Philippe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Poverina at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 14:57:43 1998 From: Poverina at xxx.com (Poverina at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:57:43 EST Subject: Fwd:Re: Sinister: b&s on the west coast Message-ID: <43752207.363730e7@aol.com> An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Poverina at xxx.com Subject: Re: Sinister: b&s on the west coast Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:56:37 EST Size: 416 URL: From fyang at xxx.ca Wed Oct 28 15:06:19 1998 From: fyang at xxx.ca (Frank Yang) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:06:19 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Newbie requests definitive discography! Message-ID: <363732EB.20FCE4EC@itl.ca> Hi, I'm new to the list (and a recent convert to B&S), and had some questions about some of the releases that get discussed on this list. As far as I know, the only official releases are Tigermilk, IYFS, TBWTAS and the three EPs from last summer. What else is out there? How... official is it? And how does one go about getting copies of it? Thanks for info. -- Frank Yang Star of track, not so much field -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From e.brown at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 14:59:10 1998 From: e.brown at xxx.com (Emanuel Brown) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 07:59:10 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Hello. Message-ID: I have an eleventh hour request for tickets to any of the two New York shows. Can any of you lovelies help me out? Thanks in advance, emanuel Free, fast e-mail accessible anytime, anywhere http://www.imaginemail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Dorigen.Horlivy at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 16:04:42 1998 From: Dorigen.Horlivy at xxx.com (Horlivy, Dorigen) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:04:42 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Tckets Message-ID: <19671EA2F1A6D011AA5100609731D18201E8627F@ank13s.ibd.gs.com> I suppose I should put in my plea here, too If any one has even one extra ticket for either New York show I would be MUCH obliged. Willing to trade for handy NY lodging forout-of-towners! Dorigen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pat at xxx.net Wed Oct 28 16:10:55 1998 From: Pat at xxx.net (Pat Rapa) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:10:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Philadelphia project Message-ID: yeah, we got lindros, too! Patrick Rapa, City Paper Listings Editor Third floor of the Corn Exchange Building 123 Chestnut St. Philadelphia PA 19106 voice: (215) 735-8444 ext. 219 fax: (215) 599-0634 email: listings at citypaper.net or pat at citypaper.net Up to the hour of going to press, nothing has occurred to mar the peace of the city. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From craftylo at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 16:19:01 1998 From: craftylo at xxx.com (rachel cohen) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:19:01 -0500 Subject: Sinister: monday night NYC apres gig party Message-ID: <363743F5.486F@erols.com> hello goldfish. just a quick note to remind you all where all the really cool NYC people are going to be dancing and drinking the night away after the monday night gig. yes thats right...us NYC scenesters are heading down to the picturesque East Village to lig, swig, schmooze and booze with our hostesses Carol and Heather (yes, everyone knows them) at the Korova Milk Bar at 200 Avenue A between 12th and 13th streets. take a taxi there after the gig or take the L train downtown to First avenue and walk the rest of the way. its not far! so...i leave the pre-gig stuff to people like Ben or Brian and Matt...and the apres gig, yes its all up to me. *i love you all* kah mee mee loo loo...my furbish is not great yet but i'm learning. rachel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Wed Oct 28 16:25:39 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:25:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: jeepster-news: Salako single and UK gig dates ... :) Message-ID: <36374583.DD659FE6@jeepster.co.uk> and again, hello to you all! as i promised earlier, here's the details of Salako's forthcoming single: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The strangest band in the world release a double a-side CD + 7" single on 16/11/98 (jprcds008/jpr7008) featuring the tracks ... the moonlight radiates a purple glow in his world go on then! enlighten me, why doncha? and bonus CD track, easy to love you (do you think they could come up with longer song titles?) oh, and for even extra weirdness, here's their press release ... "Feel like ride a plastic horse (or horse-like cow), which has an unbelievable speed like real rodeo. Although fall flop down from that fake animal, it won't stop, and just next take it. Watching them, grab the wounded leg with pulling faces. Go back home with bruises on the hip and limb, then someone come to me and say 'baby will be fine when the morning come'. That words really stabilise me like the sign, 'mind the gap' which you can find at the underground (even though it never works). "I really deep into this song, cause, coz, I wrote some story's about home and kitchen stuff, and it really has common (yah, maybe) image with this song. Me story is like an never-ending downward spiral. Something like, uhm, get into the bathtub, 'n floating upon the surface for hours, and turn into a sediment, which finally sink to the bottom. I bought Salako's CD without hesitation at HMV and then I went to the Heathrow airport. That was my last day in London, in UK. And Salako's CD was the last CD that I bought in UK. I just listened this song with my CD player at the airport, and it brought me some nostalgia. I still don't know for what. Anyway, great match with aeroplane and the mood of airport. "Fresh air-conditioner song. I think, the vocal, he has the voice of the candy in the throat. I guess he just swallowed some sweet candy as a child, but that didn't melt, just remain in the throat till now, so everytime he talk or sing, the not-melted candy make some sounds, sounds like whistle. - e-mail from a fan, October 1998 We hope our music affects everyone in this way." Ok, so by now you must understand that they're a bunch of crazies. Well, to completely reinforce this ideology in your mind, come along to one of their forthcoming UK gigs: November - Sunday 8th Glasgow, G2 Monday 9th Leeds, Duchess of York Tuesday 10th Hull, Adelphi Thursday 12th London, Borderline Just read this weeks NME + Melody Maker to get the experts (?) point of view of the Salako live experience, it's very tempting! Go on, you know you want to ... :) cheers, Katrina. oh, p.s. - we should have sound samples of both the Salako and snow patrol singles on the Jeepster website before the end of the week. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- .this message came from the jeepster records news list . .visit our site at http://www.jeepster.co.uk for more info . . . .to unsubscribe yourself from this list send a message to . .majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'unsubscribe news' in the body. .of the message . . . .any problems? then simply send a mailto:owner-news at jeepster.co.uk . ----------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ETLRDHY at xxx.se Wed Oct 28 17:01:36 1998 From: ETLRDHY at xxx.se (ETLRDHY at xxx.se) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:01:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Bored bored bored Message-ID: <002566AB.005CAA41.00@notes.ericsson.se> God I'm bored, Last half hour in the orifice. Nothing to do except mail obscure lists and shuffle papers. Might have spaghetti on toast for tea tonight. You know, for a change. Bit fed up with baked beans. I suppose I could go to Somerfield on the way home from the station and buy some cheese, only the have such a poor selection. It's dark now when I walk home from the station. Got '3,6,9' on the old walkman tonight. It's quite a dull walk home actually. Round the back of London Road from Brighton train station. There are some kids who sit on a wall about 10ft high and are currently asking for a penny, it's for their guy. Seems like such a crap space to 'guy' from so I always give them a pound. They've been there for about a fortnight now, it's getting quite expensive. Maybe I could just walk up London Rd itself, only it's full of weirdo's. Shite, it's still only 17:05. Better send this, see if I get any response other than,'You are completely insane, take a holiday' Bye Richardxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sburon at xxx.fr Wed Oct 28 16:19:15 1998 From: sburon at xxx.fr (Stephane Buron) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:19:15 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Poupée de cire, poupée de son - Lyrics References: <363743F5.486F@erols.com> Message-ID: <36374403.2B5D@club-internet.fr> Hi list! Philippe Garnier wrote: > Some days ago I tried to write the lyrics of Poupee de cire, poupee de son > when listening to Isobel "au grand galop", but I failed in understanding > all the sentences. Of course I don't mean that Isobel's french is bad! I > love her french accent! But some of the lyrics remain obscre. So if someone > can help me to achieve this important stuff (the original version by France > Gall ?), you know were I am! You're right, Philou (oh sorry, I had forgotten we were on the list...) : her french is excellent but... well... sometimes, we dont (yes, even we) dont understand a word. Anyway, here are the original lyrics of Poupée de cire written by Serge Gainsbourg. Je suis une poupée de cire Une poupée de son Mon coeur est gravé dans mes chansons Poupée de cire poupée de son Suis-je meilleure suis-je pire Qu'une poupée de salon Je vois la vie en rose bonbon Poupée de cire poupée de son Mes disques sont un miroir Dans lequel chacun peut me voir Je suis partout à la fois Brisée en mille éclats de voix Autour de moi j'entends rire Les poupées de chiffon Celles qui dansent sur mes chansons Poupée de cire poupée de son Elles se laissent séduire Pour un oui pour un nom L'amour n'est pas que dans les chansons Poupée de cire poupée de son Seule parfois je soupire Je me dis à quoi bon Chanter ainsi l'amour sans raison Sans rien connaître des garçons Je ne suis qu'une poupée de cire Qu'une poupée de son I dont know whether it will be interesting to some of you, it must be a useless message but who knows... Take care Stéphane -- Visitez le Tweeclub sur http://www.chez.com/tweeclub "I had a job in an office once, I never talked to anyone..." Belle and Sebastian, Pocketbook Angel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pixistyx13 at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 17:43:27 1998 From: Pixistyx13 at xxx.com (Pixistyx13 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:43:27 EST Subject: Sinister: one more Black Sessions post Message-ID: <29953889.363757bf@aol.com> hi, i have talked to some people from the UK who aren't able to send me a tape because of where i live and i was wondering if there is anyone stateside that has a copy of the black sessions or if there is anyone willing to make me a copy...please respond privately...thanks Jay +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From laurel_girvan at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 17:43:06 1998 From: laurel_girvan at xxx.com (Laurel Girvan) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 98 12:43:06 -0500 Subject: Sinister: with publicity like this, who needs enemies Message-ID: <9810289095.AA909596638@hholt.com> hello listees. i'm tickled pink that so many of you are coming to visit us here in new york this weekend. who needs some band when you can have girls-nights-out on a lovely friday? i'm just kidding of course. unless i'm not. to help sustain you till sunday evening, here's a recommendation for b&s from an unexpected publication -- mademoiselle magazine, women's trash central. SPICE UP YOUR CDWARDROBE POP: [desk-centric photo] THE UPDATE [as opposed to the pop standard wild orchid's OXYGEN] Belle & Sebastian's TBWTAS. Their name suggests a duo but b&s are actually a scotish octet. Pretty boy-girl vocals, gentle horns and keyboards appeal to pop fans, but the offbeat lyrics and somewhat lo-fi recording are absolutely indie. the "pop till you drop" nature of this cd is indicated by the pair of fuzzy pink slippers at the top of the page. so let's all get out there, popkids, and spice things up with b&s. sadly, the pink slippers clash with my droopy cardigan, so i'll have to narrow down my pop persona. --laurel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From laurel_girvan at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 17:49:59 1998 From: laurel_girvan at xxx.com (Laurel Girvan) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 98 12:49:59 -0500 Subject: Sinister: poopay duh sear Message-ID: <9810289095.AA909597050@hholt.com> not being a french-speaker, i translated those lyrics from stephanie via altavista and this is what i got. i think it made more sense in french... I am a wax headstock a headstock of sound My heart is engraved in my Poupée songs of wax headstock of sound Am I better am I worse Than a headstock of show I see the life pink Poupée candy of wax headstock of sound My discs are a mirror In which each one can see me I am everywhere at the same time Brisée in thousand shouts Around me I intend to laugh the headstocks of rag Those which dance on my Poupée songs of wax headstock of sound They are let allure For yes for a name the love is not only in the Poupée songs of wax headstock of sound Only sometimes I sigh I say myself what good is Chanter thus the love without reason Without anything to know boys I am only one wax headstock That a headstock of sound perhaps the most fundamental problem is the phrase "headstock of sound"? --laurel again, reaching my quota for the day +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Niceaction at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 18:02:04 1998 From: Niceaction at xxx.com (Niceaction at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:02:04 EST Subject: Sinister: Brighton,Brighton,Brighton Message-ID: <84bb6e06.36375c1c@aol.com> In a message dated 28/10/98 10:27:13 GMT, you write: << sinister at majordomo.net >> Brighton is definately the place to have the xmas meet up.!! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Crow2343 at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 18:12:23 1998 From: Crow2343 at xxx.com (Crow2343 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:12:23 EST Subject: Sinister: more of philly this, philly that... Message-ID: <272ca415.36375e87@aol.com> hiya fellas. has anyone have any further info about the refunds on the philly show? i took my tickets stub to ticketmaster yesterday at the mall and the old lady running it hadnt a clue as to what i was speaking of. first, she said that she didnt know how to process refunds and that i should come back in an hour when the lady who did know got back from her lunch break. then, when she saw that the tickets were already torn off, i had a hard time convincing her that the show was cancelled after we went inside and the opening act played. then she said i needed a receipt. of course, that's long gone. at any rate, i went to my favorite downtown record store (Bert's, for those of you who ever feel like doing record-shopping in delaware) and they told me of the possible rescheduling but they wont know until 5 o'clock today. knock on wood. at any rate, does anyone know if the ticket stubs will be accepted at the door if it is rescheduled? and if not, how do the refunds work? i've gotten over my disappointment of the show's cancellation, especially after hearing that i'll see them sooner or later, but i think it kinda sucks that i paid for three tickets and i cant get my money back...pls help me out here. to the guy who wrote about REM's "life's richest pagents" -- the track list in order is on the disc itself rather than the outside cover art. i was thrown off at first as well :) toodles all. love, -dannyb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Wed Oct 28 18:26:07 1998 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksandaJill) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:26:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Grey Poupee de Cire, etc. Message-ID: <199810281826.NAA26058@dept.english.upenn.edu> Being a huge France Gall fan I too tried to translate her songs literally, 'cause I speak so little French. It helps to translate it and then see what the phrase could be in English...after all who eats apples of the earth? So really I think that "Poupee de cire poupee de son" means something like "Wax doll, talking doll" (or "doll of sound")...but I think it could also be a pun, as "son" can mean "his." This is, after all, Serge Gainsbourg we're talking about here, and he was no slouch with the clever puns. It's also a little amusing to write a song about a talking doll for a girl who was so obviously a manufactured pop singer. He really pulled a number on her with "Les Sucettes", too (smut content)... Btw, did you know France Gall's real name is Isobel? Cue Twilight Zone music here... Laisse tomber les filles, Xavier -- BXK "It's recess everywhere bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu but in his heart." http://www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 --Ralph Wiggum X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Wed Oct 28 17:59:29 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:59:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: jeepster-news: Belle & Sebastian ... guess what??? :)! Message-ID: <36375B81.98F7D605@jeepster.co.uk> ... they're releasing an EP in the UK before Christmas!!! and guess what else? It's finally the long awaited "This Is Just A Modern Rock Song" EP ... can you believe it? OK, so i 'spose you want some proper details ... here goes: Belle & Sebastian release a new EP, as yet untitled on December 7th, 1998. The tracklisting will be (but not necessarily in this order) This Is Just A Modern Rock Song (*sigh*, i love this song ... aahhhhh) Slow Graffiti (from the soundtrack to The Acid House) The Gate (another Isobel composition + vocal) I Know Where The Summer Goes (lovely, lovely, lovely) It will be released on CD-single and 12" and Stuart is also thinking of doing a four-track 7" too. If you know anything about the UK charts, you'll know that this will be ineligible for the Singles Chart due to it being a four-track EP. Boo to the Business World indeed! Apparently Sarah is shooting a video for "...Modern Rock Song" but i should have more details about that when the band get back from the U.S. HOW EXCITING!!! I always said "...Modern Rock Song" was a wintry song let's hope it snows on December 7th. :) And now for the bad news ... Even though I know that the Toronto gig will not be rescheduled for definite, I really can't see the Philly gig being rescheduled this time around, unless it goes ahead tomorrow, Thursday 29/10. Stuart has to fly back to the UK on Tuesday 03/11 and they don't really have another spare date (except for Saturday 31/10), but as soon as i have news for definite, i promise to let you all know. Did anyone see the lovely 4-page spread in this month's Select? if you need any more info, just ask! cheers, (a very smiley) Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- .this message came from the jeepster records news list . .visit our site at http://www.jeepster.co.uk for more info . . . .to unsubscribe yourself from this list send a message to . .majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'unsubscribe news' in the body. .of the message . . . .any problems? then simply send a mailto:owner-news at jeepster.co.uk . ----------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Wed Oct 28 18:40:55 1998 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksandaJill) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:40:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Delgados n' France Gall Message-ID: <199810281840.NAA37664@dept.english.upenn.edu> The Delgados also do a nicely rockin' cover of France Gall's "Sacre Charlemagne" (minus the prepubescent choir). -- BXK "It's recess everywhere bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu but in his heart." http://www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 --Ralph Wiggum X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SErringt at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 18:41:34 1998 From: SErringt at xxx.com (SErringt at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:41:34 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Re: radio, on your radio Message-ID: <852566AB.0063B70B.00@uhura.ahh.com> >No way, Mark. Hands down the best station in Boston >is WZBC, 90.3 (or something), 90.3 is correct. >the Boston College radio station I have to agree with Aaron here, 'ZBC is the best station in Boston, along with, of course, WMBR, the MIT radio station (88.1). Although 'ZBC does win in that they play rock all day and night (if you call No Commercial Potential rock, which it sort of is). But the only problem with 'ZBC is that in most buildings in Boston, you just can't pick up the reception, so you're stuck with listening to the bigger stations (WFNX being in that category) or listening to cd's all day long, which is what I pretty much do, after, of course, listening to the wonderful Breakfast of Champions on 'MBR for the first two hours of my work day. B&S content - 'MBR is where I *first* heard B&S, way back in early '97 - gotta thank Matt N. for that!! (I sadly miss the "sugar buzz" show, Matt, if you're still on the list) >FNX can bite me. Me too! Although, they do once in a while have *free form fridays* in which they go crazy and don't play anything from the playlist all day, and I *did* get them to play B&S on the first FFF last February, but, in general, the station bites. - Sue +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Wed Oct 28 18:47:11 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:47:11 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Awopbopaloobopawopbamboom Message-ID: >Belle & Sebastian release a new EP, as yet untitled on December 7th, >1998. The tracklisting will be (but not necessarily in this order) > >This Is Just A Modern Rock Song (*sigh*, i love this song ... aahhhhh) >Slow Graffiti (from the soundtrack to The Acid House) >The Gate (another Isobel composition + vocal) >I Know Where The Summer Goes (lovely, lovely, lovely) OK, now I'm confused, I thought Paper Boat and Lord Anthony were coming out next. Oh well, any releases are good news, especially with IKWTSG on them... As for chart rules, could they not just put both the last 2 songs on as one track, like Hefner did on their last single? Then we get value for money and the band get onto Top Of The Pops as well! Other matters - to all the people waiting for tapes from me, I'm working my way through them but I was away in Lancaster last weekend so I haven't had time, be patient. (And I still haven't forgiven the girl who left her handbag in a service station halfway down the M6 and forced us to go on a 2 and a half hour detour to go back and get it... Grr...) Sorry, no smut, I had enough of that over the weekend ;-) Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atassano at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 18:55:00 1998 From: atassano at xxx.com (Aaron Tassano) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:55:00 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Looking to trade for B&S shows Message-ID: <5487DC3001EF4600@c2smtp.angnewspapers.com> I'm looking for high quality tape (or maybe even DAT or CDR?) copies of any B&S shows, but primarily the recent US shows. I have lots of cool stuff to trade including Tigermilk, some B&S radio sessions, Eliott Smith shows, Beach Boys, Dylan, Van Morrison, a Depeche Mode video/interview compilation and much more. Please contact me if interested! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SSTONE at xxx.org Wed Oct 28 18:55:37 1998 From: SSTONE at xxx.org (Susan Stone x2794) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:55:37 -0500 Subject: Sinister: sad dc request oh yes another Message-ID: <981028135537.21647@npr.org> Greetings, salutations and please help me! A new lister here...sadly lacking DC tickets. will exchange $, pleasantries, and even floor-based lodging for kind strangers. sorry for list clutter with this sad postcard. SusanElizabethStone (also momus fan - who clearly got lolita pop dollhouse header and thus deserves at least a lollipop) *please write back with info to sstone at npr.org so as not to anger kind list denizens +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Wed Oct 28 18:59:15 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:59:15 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: tabs are (or aren't) us Message-ID: To all the people who have sent me chords for songs from The Boy, I'm so sorry I haven't put them up on the WWW page yet and some people sent them ages ago. Feeling woefully guilty, but I'm afraid I'm just not up to it right now but I promise I will. I'll have loads of duplicates already and I don't know how to choose which to put on the WWW - I'm afraid I'll probably go for first-come-first served and then you should feel free to mail the person who wrote them, chew a plectrum and agree on changes if there are any, and mail me back. I'll then put the corrected ones up, and if for some perverse reason there's some kudos in having your name on the Sinister site, I'll put both your names on. If, as is more likely, you'll get beaten up at school for being a tweeindiepopwimpkid by having your name there, tell me and I'll put it in code. Please remember there's a message board on the Jeepster site (www.jeepster.co.uk) for gig meet-ups and tickets swaps - it leaves the list free to deal with rude dreams and snogging anthems, something you all seem very knowledgable on, thankfully. honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mm_kulik at xxx.EDU Wed Oct 28 18:13:19 1998 From: mm_kulik at xxx.EDU (Mothra) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:13:19 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V2 #444 In-Reply-To: <199810281745.RAA18534@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > philly this, philly that... > > fine. > > has Toronto fallen off the globe? > the show was VERY sold-out...grrrrr actually, they may have plans to reschedule that one as well...i only asked about philly when i called matador because it's the show i want to go to...in retrospect, that was mighty selfish of me...boo. but i will inquire about toronto when i call again in a few days to get an update on the situation!!!! i will post immediately after... moira ********************************** Moira Kulik Box 906 Franklin & Marshall College P.O. Box 3220 Lancaster, PA 17604-3220 mm_kulik at acad.fandm.edu Music Director, WFNM Franklin & Marshall College Box 90 Lancaster, PA 17604 business line: 717/291.4098 office hours: tues/thurs 2 to 5 pm ********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 70204923 at xxx.ca Wed Oct 28 19:21:58 1998 From: 70204923 at xxx.ca (Sebastian) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:21:58 EST Subject: Sinister: Mohra, Toronto Message-ID: <2003AB570A7@cs5.conestogac.on.ca> Yeah, i know...but the NME webby said it is "highly unlikely" they'll play Toronto...why? coz we didnt get a chance to express to them how much it hurt? if theyda come on stage here...theyda seen... rollercoaster ride. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lapis at xxx.edu Wed Oct 28 19:22:01 1998 From: lapis at xxx.edu (dave cohen) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:22:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Delgados n' France Gall (fwd) Message-ID: <199810281922.OAA27467@pobox.upenn.edu> the delgados version is on a split 7" with new bad things ("down caravan") [it's Liss 20] dubstar + sacha distel do Poupee on the Songs for Eurotrash comp also Wizo do Poupee on Kraut&Ruben and heavenly do an absolutely Heavenly "nous ne some pas des anges" on operation heavenly --d > > > The Delgados also do a nicely rockin' cover of France Gall's "Sacre > Charlemagne" (minus the prepubescent choir). > > -- > BXK "It's recess everywhere > bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu but in his heart." > http://www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 --Ralph Wiggum > X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mm_kulik at xxx.EDU Wed Oct 28 18:25:59 1998 From: mm_kulik at xxx.EDU (Mothra) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:25:59 -0400 Subject: Sinister: another black sessions request Message-ID: jay said: >hi, i have talked to some people from the UK who aren't able to send me a tape >because of where i live and i was wondering if there is anyone stateside that >has a copy of the black sessions or if there is anyone willing to make me a >copy...please respond privately...thanks hellooo...i would like to second that request...i have been told that there is someone willing to make copies of the black sessions for US listees...is this true??? if so, please email me privately!!! i would love to work out some sort of trade. thank youuu!!!!! moira ********************************** Moira Kulik Box 906 Franklin & Marshall College P.O. Box 3220 Lancaster, PA 17604-3220 mm_kulik at acad.fandm.edu Music Director, WFNM Franklin & Marshall College Box 90 Lancaster, PA 17604 business line: 717/291.4098 office hours: tues/thurs 2 to 5 pm ********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From casio at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 19:49:17 1998 From: casio at xxx.com (Tony Zito) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:49:17 -0500 Subject: Sinister: another black sessions request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <199810281946.OAA20514@bottlerocket.com> Oh me oh my and how do yous do? happy to report that I've recently signed onto the list, and would very much like to 3rd this request for a dub. again, email privately, it would be tremendously appreciated and I could even do something in return? I'm open to suggestions; negotiation should take the form of flirty banter. in other news, I'm very much looking forward to monday's nyc event. and p'haps even the post-event event at Korova to boot? i heart you all in spades, t. At 01:25 PM 10/28/98 , Mothra wrote: > >jay said: >>hi, i have talked to some people from the UK who aren't able to send me a tape >>because of where i live and i was wondering if there is anyone stateside that >>has a copy of the black sessions or if there is anyone willing to make me a >>copy...please respond privately...thanks > >hellooo...i would like to second that request...i have been told that there >is someone willing to make copies of the black sessions for US listees...is >this true??? if so, please email me privately!!! i would love to work out >some sort of trade. thank youuu!!!!! > >moira > > > > >********************************** >Moira Kulik >Box 906 >Franklin & Marshall College >P.O. Box 3220 >Lancaster, PA 17604-3220 > >mm_kulik at acad.fandm.edu > >Music Director, WFNM >Franklin & Marshall College >Box 90 >Lancaster, PA 17604 >business line: 717/291.4098 >office hours: tues/thurs 2 to 5 pm >********************************** > > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Oct 28 19:50:22 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:50:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Boobs to the Business World! Message-ID: <01be02ac$335b3b40$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Ahoy there, me hearties! I've just got an e-mail from Bob Holness! Yes, it's true! (For overseas listees, Bob Holness is the man responsible for the saxophone solo on "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty). A few weeks ago I sent a request to Bob's BBC World Service programme "Anything Goes". My first choice was some yodelling, but they have rejected that in favour of my second choice - Snow Patrol. Ha ha, just my little joke. Why, it's Belle and Sebastian of course! I'm very pleased because lost tribes in the Amazon will be able to hear, those funny jumping up and down people in Africa will be able to hear it, Oooon's grandmother will be able to hear it, even educated fleas will be able to hear it! Everyone should tune in - here's Bob himself to tell you when: Thanks for e-mailing us here at "Anything Goes". I hope to play your request (by Belle and Sebastian) on one of the following days: Either Saturday 21st November, Sunday 22nd November or Tuesday 24th November (obviously, you will know on which of these days the programme is broadcast in your region). Isn't that sweet? Especially seeing as I haven't got a clue when it's broadcast here. Note Bob's stern tone of voice, firm but fair, during that last bit. And you can't you just hear him gently emphasising the word "hope"? He's everything I look for in a man. It will also be pretty touching, because I'm trying to contact a friend of mine in Chile. No, don't worry, he hasn't been disappeared by senador vitalicio Pinochet, I've just lost my address book. Today I saw two CDs by France Gall, "1968" and "Pop Girl", I think. They were horrendously expensive, just like that Serge/Melodie Nelson one, so I didn't snap them up. Are they so expensive in France? Also shockingly expensive is the Spiritualised live album. Oh well, at least it isn't packaged in an ice lolly wrapper or a cosmic eggbox this time. Am I the only person on the list that didn't know that Mullet Man and Fuzzbox were an item? Remember, Sarah, don't go barging on ahead like a baby elephant. You'll get attention all right, but it won't be favourable... David Moore is the voice of reason, and I love him for it. Peter Miller Hondarribia, Spain PS: Disappointed by the lack of Moog talk today. PPS: It was from Bob's producer really. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TWidmer at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 20:07:25 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:07:25 -0800 Subject: Sinister: brighton Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF032EA868@amerwksnt01.xil.com> << Everyone should meet up in Brighton, on New Years Eve, at My house, Everyone in THE WORLD!!!!!!!>> Brighton sounds more do-able than Glasgow (to those of us who possibly can't do Glasgow) but I have to admit the idea of going to Brighton intimidates me!! ::envisions uber-trendy mod brigade headed by STiNG, in fisticuffs with big denim-clad types::: no, must remember -- it's just a movie...just a movie...just... The party is now tentatively scheduled for New year's Day in glasgow, it seems, but won't public transport be difficult then? At any rate, i look forward to meeting everyone/anyone where and whenever you ultimately decide to have the do. People have been very sweet and generous in offering their assistance while i'm in the Uk and i'm barely able to wait the remaining two months til my vacation! Someone suggested we speculate on the real reason isobel quote/unquote got sick, no doubt in order to add nasty rumors to the smut already prevalent here and ensure the Sinister list lives up to its name... admittedly, some nasty thoughts passed thru my mind, especially when the russian midget strippers were mentioned (thought that was a South Park reference?) but for the sake of all those involved i'll just keep them to myself for now. "Stomach flu", it is. roll on dec 7th!! tata, erica america PS So the words are.... "Car coat she has a quilted jacket with a hood if it rains" and not, "Good god, she has a cruelty jacket with a hooded fringe"? (No, I don't know either.) lyrics booklet, you say? pppshh, for wimps +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 11:50:26 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (JJ) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:50:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Julian Cope is dead. I shot him in the head References: <0010C496.CE21213@smlawpub.co.uk> Message-ID: <36370502.7AC1@seahouses.u-net.com> If he moves some more I'll kill him for sure, now Julian Cope is dead. But I digress. Charlotte Hall wrote, and earlier PJMILLER wrote something about: > Julian Cope's book Yes, it is EXCELLENT. It's really good to read, he's dead enthusiastic and you really feel you ought to go and have a look at these megaliths and henges he's on about. For those who don't know what it is, it's called The Modern Antiquarian, and you can read about it at: http://www.headheritage.co.uk/ Oh and near the end there's a picture of his wife next to a stone, she's wearing a see through top... god I feel awful. I'm never drinking again do you hear, never. JJ xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Wed Oct 28 20:15:51 1998 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:15:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ease your .....tab Message-ID: <36377B77.B98FA33A@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Yes , i know that A# and Bb are the same , but in the guitar there's a different way to do this two accord , and i think that Bb is better than A#. cheers, Marco#7. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 20:20:14 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (JJ) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:20:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: the bushes scream while my daddy prunes Message-ID: <36377C7E.23D4@seahouses.u-net.com> Please don't look at this if you are offended by nasty swear words. But if you like nasty swear words, have a look at : http://www.seahouses.u-net.com/carol.jpg JJ xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 20:26:53 1998 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:26:53 PST Subject: Sinister: now he sings, now he sobs Message-ID: <19981028202654.29656.qmail@hotmail.com> Oui oui il y a six boucherons sur ma cachalot. Can't tell you the feeling of sympathetic cavitating hollow dysfulfillment I felt for all who trekked to Philly for the old bait 'n' switch, as Cinerama became the pop sensation for the night I see. Lemme tell ya DISCHARGE never cancelled a show 'cause some band member got sick, in fact Dave projectile-vomited all over me the night I saw them and dammit I was happy as a pig in, well, vomit. Anyway. I'm glad that seeing other people, at least that's what you said you were doing, was almost as good, I was supposed to meet someone at DC's Momus show but approached no one to ask because everyone looked, so, well SINISTER!!! Hooray! Being an opportunistic sexual predator I can never say I got to plan out and try and actually find a good album for ringin' those bells, that tower chime, runnin' my chub through a hundred honeys at a time, but lemme tell ya, after years of wondering I finally wound up nastifyin' to the tune of John Spencer Blues Explosion, with someone who'd never heard it before..... can I tell you, guys, that you can last forever as long as you're (both) laughing your ass off? (Be worried, be very worried, if only one of you is laughing). Yes, trying to be passionate and romantic and sweet and all-Barry-White-shit-baby-I'll make-yo-toenails-curl and to hear "Take a whiff of my pant leg, baby! FUCK! Oh yeah!" Someday I'll have a CD carousel and STAR TIME and then I'll see what true love is made of. Can I tell you I just got out of an elevator that was playing a MUZAK "Northern Sky"? Can I say that I wasn't repulsed? Or is that the point? O.K. I'll be at the Washington D.C. show..... I quit smoking on Friday, and I'll be in a ridiculous umber-green-and-yello dashiki, so hey you NO GIVING CIGARETTES TO THE MAN IN THE DASHIKI! Do say hi, though, be not shy and retiring ye beddoe-ins! Peace out. mwah y'all. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From casio at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 20:33:26 1998 From: casio at xxx.com (Tony Zito) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:33:26 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Julian Cope is dead. I shot him in the head In-Reply-To: <36370502.7AC1@seahouses.u-net.com> References: <0010C496.CE21213@smlawpub.co.uk> Message-ID: <199810282030.PAA20933@bottlerocket.com> Ha! why that's a Luka Bloom reference, no? At 06:50 AM 10/28/98 , JJ wrote: > >If he moves some more I'll kill him for sure, now Julian Cope is dead. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Wed Oct 28 20:34:02 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:34:02 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Awopbopaloobopawopbamboom/Modern Rock Song References: Message-ID: <36377FBA.B897DDF@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Stuart Gardiner wrote: > >Belle & Sebastian release a new EP, as yet untitled on December 7th, > >1998. The tracklisting will be (but not necessarily in this order) > > > >This Is Just A Modern Rock Song (*sigh*, i love this song ... aahhhhh) > >Slow Graffiti (from the soundtrack to The Acid House) > >The Gate (another Isobel composition + vocal) > >I Know Where The Summer Goes (lovely, lovely, lovely) > > > > OK, now I'm confused, I thought Paper Boat and Lord Anthony were coming > out next. Oh well, any releases are good news, especially with IKWTSG on > them... Well, remember when Modern Rock Song was supposed to be released BEFORE the album? Things seem to change all the time with B&S =D My personal theory is that perhaps they'd already had Modern Rock Song, etc. recorded, but no one wanted to have the album overshadowing the EP, so they delayed it until a certain number of months afterward. The songs they recorded recently ("Paper Boat," plsu the one they didn't say the name of, probably "Lord Anthony") are perhaps for yet another EP? Let us hope so. Maybe backed with "Rhoda" and the instrumental "Tigermilk"? Or maybe that cover of "In a Nutshell," ooo...doubt that one. Do they have a policy of not recording covers I wonder? Hm... /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at oak.cats.ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SPRFNK at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 20:37:22 1998 From: SPRFNK at xxx.com (SPRFNK at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:37:22 EST Subject: Sinister: more of philly this, philly that... Message-ID: hey well i went to get my refund---and i had a hard time---the guy called up ticketmaster and they called me today--turns out the guy was looking in the ny system and not the philly system---so she told me that i can get a refund and everything so their should be no problem--maybe you should go to a different store ok byebye kristin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sweaters at xxx.net Wed Oct 28 20:47:22 1998 From: sweaters at xxx.net (Butch Sweaters himself) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:47:22 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Philly: Scary Sebastian Show? Message-ID: <363782DA.5F13D718@dca.net> Katrina House wrote:. ...I really can't see the Philly gig being rescheduled this time around, unless it goes ahead tomorrow, Thursday 29/10. Stuart has to fly back to the UK on Tuesday 03/11 and they don't really have another spare date (except for Saturday 31/10)... ---- I have heard from semi-reputable sources that the Philly show may be re-scheduled for this Saturday, 10/31 (Halloween! or, 31/10 as non-Americans would say) and that it will be at the Electric Factory this time, not the Troc. There isn't a show scheduled at the Electric Factory this Saturday, so that would make sense. If anyone hears anything, please adivse. Butch Sweaters +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mstewart at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 20:54:31 1998 From: mstewart at xxx.com (Stewart, Michael) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:54:31 -0800 Subject: Sinister: nyc tix Message-ID: i have 2 tix to the monday nyc show. 1st choice would be to trade for either sunday tix or a copy of the radio/black sessions tracks. failing that, i'll sell them. i can't take lots of e-mails at work unfortunately, so if you can reply by 2pm pacific or 5pm eastern time (today 10/28) that would be best. mstewart at montgomery.com mike +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 0291942a01 at xxx.es Wed Oct 28 21:07:56 1998 From: 0291942a01 at xxx.es (Jordi Trenzano Vilar) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:07:56 +-100 Subject: Sinister: more "poupee de cire... Message-ID: <01BE02C0.CD391840@Abonado-195-53-44-106.cat.es> The spanish girls band Nosotrash made another cover of "poupee de cire..." in their latest recording, "Nadie hablara de Nosotrash". I don?t have this record, but I can find it, if anybody is interested. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Niceaction at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 21:08:54 1998 From: Niceaction at xxx.com (Niceaction at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:08:54 EST Subject: Sinister: coming to america Message-ID: <7588adf7.363787e6@aol.com> evenin kiddies just a quicky to say that i head off for NY tommorow, and hope to meet as many of you as possible at the pre - concert gathering in Bryant Park. :o) Take it easy everyone and play nicely. Jamie xxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mdellima at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 21:18:12 1998 From: mdellima at xxx.com (mark del lima) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:18:12 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Re: radio, on your radio Message-ID: <199810282118.NAA24894@scv3.apple.com> i agree wholeheartedly that WZBC is the best in the area "No commercial potential" defined my musical aesthetic. (B&S is an anomoly...) mark. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jamesgoncalves at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 21:24:59 1998 From: jamesgoncalves at xxx.com (James Goncalves) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:24:59 PST Subject: Sinister: B&S in Boston Message-ID: <19981028212459.11211.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello everybody. Just to let you know, I have a B+ recording of B&S in Boston that I would lwilling to swap with someone for a copy of the black sessions or whatever else you may have to offer. Send an email to me and let me know. jamesgoncalves at hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mappster at xxx.edu Wed Oct 28 21:37:20 1998 From: mappster at xxx.edu (Robert David Mapp) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:37:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe sinister Message-ID: unsubscribe sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jccourtney at xxx.net Wed Oct 28 23:42:23 1998 From: jccourtney at xxx.net (John Courtney) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:42:23 -0600 Subject: Sinister: another black sessions request References: Message-ID: <3637ABDF.B219589@revealed.net> I'm another newbie requesting the Black Sessions material and am willing to pay a more-than-adequate sum, so if anyone is willing to send me a tape, that person will definitely be rewarded..... John Courtney jccourtney at revealed.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jojobobohohos at xxx.com Thu Oct 29 02:37:46 1998 From: jojobobohohos at xxx.com (chi m lee) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:37:46 -0800 Subject: Sinister: DC newbie Message-ID: <19981028.183748.-247723.0.jojobobohohos@juno.com> Hi All! My name is Chi and I'm new to the list. I'm also, sadly, without tickets to the DC show this Friday. If there's anyone out there with two ticktets, I will gladly trade a tape of one of my rare, hard to find CD's. I don't have anything rare by B&S, but I do have rarities from The Smiths, Suede, Morrissey, etc.... If you're interested, please write jojobobohohos at juno.com. PS -- I promise I will never use this list to ask for tickets again. It's just that desparate times ask for desparate measures. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nicolina at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 23:47:42 1998 From: nicolina at xxx.com (Nicole Elger) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:47:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Re: Brighton,Brighton,Brighton In-Reply-To: <9810282320.AA16796@chs.chs.biostat.washington.edu> Message-ID: oooh, a brighton meet-up over x-mas? sounds like i might finally be in just the right place at the right time! i'll be coming from seattle to brighton at x-mas to meet the family of the boy with whom i am living in blissful sin (who was previously just a far-away list crush so hang in there all you lovestruck but tortured by distance bunnies.) all sappiness aside, add my vote on this brighton meetup idea. if you can't figure out where to meet, we could always bundle up and head for the palace pier and get our mittens sticky eating donuts. - nicole > Re: Sinister: Brighton,Brighton,Brighton > Archel (rap101 at york.ac.uk) > Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:34:07 +0000 (GMT) > Adrian has been grovelling and begging me to organise a meet in Brighton > which is my HOME (he hasn't really, but it's good for my ego to pretend > so). But I'm a bit short on ideas of where to go at the moment, so I > might turn the question over to you lot. There are some nice places in > lovely Brighton by the sea, but currently I can't remember any of them. > That's what happens when you go and live in York. Of course, none of you > might want to meet me anyway, which is fine. > ................................ >>--- nicolina at drizzle.com --->> ================================ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NoelWhitey at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 23:47:03 1998 From: NoelWhitey at xxx.com (NoelWhitey at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:47:03 EST Subject: Sinister: Salako single and Black Sessions Message-ID: <62d1d87e.3637acf7@aol.com> Hey everyone, I live in the us and where do you think I can get a copy od this salako single when it comes out? Also I went to the Uk taper looking for the black sessions but I live In The lovely(not) USA and Need the taper in US to get me A copy.Thanks Love you to Pieces LIVE FOREVER -DAMON +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Thu Oct 29 00:05:45 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (Jake) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:05:45 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Brighton meet up on the jeepster page Message-ID: <199810290004.AAA08855@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Hi there, I just thought that seeing as the idea of having a southern meet up has had a good reponse, i thought that I'd put up a little note on the jeepster page, so as to stop filling up honeys in tray with things other than smut. And as for brighton being ubertrendy, or whatever the quote is, its not too much like that, it just means that you can dress in whatever style you like (I favour austrian folk dancer *) and people don't judge you. Lots of styles and lots of fashionable people which is nice. *Before people start getting the wrong idea of me again, that is another sarcastic comment, taking the mickey out of the toss which I've just written. New single, oh I'm excited, and today while in Brighton I got the Fieldmice anthology (a cross between the stone roses and belle and sebastian, or is that just me) and the mojave 3 album (very Nick Drake, and my mum said it sounded "very dylany") I thought that I'd recommend them to you, and also the Mercury Rev album. See you in Brighton (even if it is just the 5 of us) ? Around new year? before or after? email me privately. Jake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chigger88 at xxx.com Thu Oct 29 00:29:22 1998 From: chigger88 at xxx.com (Perite Cunnus) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:29:22 PST Subject: Sinister: Balancing bananas on the bum of life Message-ID: <19981029002923.1059.qmail@hotmail.com> Well put, Corpora (er...) you seem to have your digits on the pulse of the youth culture of today. Anyone who owns a dashiki has my utmost respect and my sincerest condolences. Please, post more often. Now, would you mind telling the rest of us what the hell a(n) "arenecea" is? I've been racking my brains for answers. I don't know why it matters, but it just does. I have a question for the Duke (are you still there?): Do you have any idea who the band ELKA is? I saw them open for Morrisey at the Warfield (I was working there at the time so don't start). I was really struck by Elka, especially their drummer who set up his cymbal behind and above ala Keith Moon. I talked to them for a bit after the show and they said they might be releasing something soon, etc. That's it. Nothing more. This was months ago. Any leads would be appreciated. Good luck to all. Rachael Bristol Formerly Burt Reynolds ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mneimark at xxx.com Thu Oct 29 00:34:46 1998 From: mneimark at xxx.com (Matthew Neimark) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:34:46 PST Subject: Sinister: Still On the list Message-ID: <19981029003446.19861.qmail@hotmail.com> I am still on the list!!! Sue if you wanna hear good pop in Boston, my friend Victor does a great show on WMBR Thursday nights between 10 and 11 called "If only for the moment"! (both Victor and I have the distinction of being kicked off of the Breakfast of Champions show for not playing enough RAWK), Aside from B&S, he plays only the most obscure pop from bands such as Another Sunny Day, the Cat's Miaow, sweet william and Toulouse. Excited as hell about the new B&S EP. The concert brought tears to my eyes (only because it's impossible for me to pay them to serenade me while I work). Matt PS Just got back from the Depeche Mode concert last night. They had about 6,000 people in the audience. I wonder if B&S will ever play a show that big. Matt ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Thu Oct 29 00:49:46 1998 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 01:49:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: go home Message-ID: <3637BBAA.D513C304@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Hi beautiful members, this night i went to the cinema with my girlfriend , good film inspired by a italian writer (Baricco), and i want tell you a secret about me. Every night , when i come home with my car i listen B&S , one song a night ( this night i listened "seeing other people"). The city is desert , only some little light during the little trip.The instruments(and Stuard's voice) drive me and when i park my car is very difficult turn off the radio , what a crime!!! What do you think??? Goodnight, Marco#7. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Thu Oct 29 01:01:29 1998 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:01:29 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Terribly Bored With This Acronym Stuff Message-ID: <199810282001_MC2-5E64-5C6B@compuserve.com> Hi All, Peter Miller Wrote: David Moore is the voice of reason, and I love him for it More like the voice of Cartman at the moment actually, as I'm full of cold. Speaking of whom, my youngest does a cracking impression of South Park's resident beefcake. Recites whole scenes from memory, which can be a bit disconcerting when its the one where Eric calls his cat a dildo, and his mum says "Hmmm, guess which little pussy's sleeping with Mummy tonight" or something, and Stevie looks like he understands whats going on. B & S content? Mmmmm, Katrina, with this news you are really spoiling us! New stuff in under 40 days time! And now less need to fork out for the Acid House soundtrack as well! (Though might still have to for Arab Strap, Beth Orton And The Chemical Brothers) Merci =E0 Stephane for the Poopy lyrics, Bonsoir, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atieger at xxx.com Thu Oct 29 00:51:03 1998 From: atieger at xxx.com (aaron tieger) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:51:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Fwd: sinister-digest V2 #445 Message-ID: <19981029005103.4221.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> > > Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:41:34 -0500 > From: SErringt at xxx.com > Subject: Sinister: Re: radio, on your radio > > >No way, Mark. Hands down the best station in Boston > >is WZBC, 90.3 (or something), > > 90.3 is correct. > > >the Boston College radio station > > I have to agree with Aaron here, 'ZBC is the best station in Boston, along > with, of course, WMBR, the MIT radio station (88.1). Although 'ZBC does > win in that they play rock all day and night (if you call No Commercial > Potential rock, which it sort of is). But the only problem with 'ZBC is > that in most buildings in Boston, you just can't pick up the reception, so > you're stuck with listening to the bigger stations (WFNX being in that > category) or listening to cd's all day long, which is what I pretty much > do, after, of course, listening to the wonderful Breakfast of Champions on > 'MBR for the first two hours of my work day. > > B&S content - 'MBR is where I *first* heard B&S, way back in early '97 - > gotta thank Matt N. for that!! (I sadly miss the "sugar buzz" show, Matt, > if you're still on the list) > > >FNX can bite me. > > Me too! Although, they do once in a while have *free form fridays* in > which they go crazy and don't play anything from the playlist all day, and > I *did* get them to play B&S on the first FFF last February, but, in > general, the station bites. > > - - Sue Thanks for the backup, Sue. How could I forget MBR? Also, to be fair, FNX does have the "leftover lunch," which kicks ass all over the contemporary "alternative" playlist. But is it me, or is it offensive that in terming their 80's show this they completely insult artists (and by extension, their fans) by implying that, say "People Who Died" or "Blister in the Sun" are now irrelevant? Anyway, on a completely unrelated note: Is anybody on the list fluent in Hungarian? Please email me privately if you are-- I have a project that needs a translation. Thanks, Aaron _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail, free e-mail for the planet. * Visit & explore Cybersmith at http://www.cybersmith.com * Get your web-based e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From debbie.spiers at xxx.ca Wed Oct 28 20:36:42 1998 From: debbie.spiers at xxx.ca (debbie.spiers at xxx.ca) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:36:42 -0500 () Subject: Sinister: canadians & anyone else Message-ID: stop yammering, we can get to the west coast damn it! i already said i'd drive. if lots of us want to come, we can rent one of those old VW vans and all snuggle up in the back in sleeping bags at night to save money on hotel rooms. we all just chip in for gas money and the rental. january isn't too good for uni students though. i hope we can do it in a weekend... or reading week! or is that in february? ummm... well, what ever, i'm going, and anyone can come along. it really doesn't seem like B&S are returning to canada anytime soon, and i'm not waiting another two years to see them! and whining will not bring them here, that isn't very sebby-ish. don't fret, we'll see them some day cheers deb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From IndiaRubb at xxx.com Thu Oct 29 04:18:13 1998 From: IndiaRubb at xxx.com (IndiaRubb at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 23:18:13 EST Subject: Sinister: Ease your .....tab Message-ID: about the A# / Bb thing...I originally wrote it as Bb, actually, but just didn't like how Bbm looked, so I changed it :) I assume what you mean by Bb is the following chord? (sorry if it looks weird, i'm just writing this in the AOL mail box, and the text characters are uneven) EADGbe x13331 Well, by A# I meant 688766. I originally played it with the other method, but if you listen closely, you can here the strumming guitar's strings get a lot of fret noise between chords, that is, he's sliding up the neck. Ultimately I find it easier to play like this, I hate playing barre chords on the 1st and 3rd frets. gwt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From goon_koch at xxx.com Thu Oct 29 05:22:26 1998 From: goon_koch at xxx.com (Goon Koch) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:22:26 PST Subject: Sinister: toronto, mojave 3, many, many pints of ricard's Message-ID: <19981029052227.16573.qmail@hotmail.com> friends, i've just returned from toronto, and i'm proud and relieved to announce that i've successfully convinced the american immigration system to allow me to stay a little longer. it was necessary to take two days off from work for this mission, so i got to wander about this lovely city. when you're at home and you have nothing to during business hours, you're wasting time. in a different city it's like an anthropology field trip. this is what i learned, mummy: 1. street cars are great. more places should have them. 2. you've got to love a country that calls its currency the "loonie." 3. there are no ugly canadian women. 4. even when the sun is shining and it's 70� out, the good citizens run about in heavy jackets, like they're afraid of being flash frozen if they're caught without them. 5. canadians really like hockey, which is a weird sport. i've never seen two teams so happy after a 0:0 scoreless tie in overtime. we have those in soccer, of course, but they're seen more as a display of mutual impotence rather than extraordinary goalkeeping prowess. 6. they charge you tax when you buy postage stamps. thankfully, rumors of the church of the holy trinity's demise ("they tore the thing down right after the cowboy junkies recorded there, man") were greatly exaggerated. this is a wonderful space with huge floorplanks that creak, homeless people dozing in the corners and a rainbow banner hanging from the balcony. not something you see in a church every day. "trinity session" cd's were not on sale there, but there is a cafe where you can have lunch. the tower records had the very same faust cd on the rack exactly where i left it when i didn't buy it in july. it's not there anymore. i also bought the new mojave 3 album. the cashier girl had something to say about that and the following conversation ensued. "that's a really great album. the first one was too country." "that's what i've heard. i really like slowdive. but right now i'm totally into belle and sebastian. i was at the cancelled philly show" (delivered with an anguished grimace) "i totally hate them right now. i've heard them too much. i saw them live last year." "really? in new york?" (i'm surprised) "no, in glasgow. i saw them when they were, like, nobody." of course i'm speechless at all this ingratitude and underappreciation. i now choose to believe that she made it up, because i don't think i could bear to live in a world where such things can happen. so you see, toronto. the gig was really cancelled because you have traitors in your midst. by the way, the mojave 3 album is pretty good. i still have to listen to it more. most of it is pretty slow (at least the songs know when to stop) but the first track is a masterpiece. this song delivers everything i ever expected from the red house painters. and of course it has mick cooke, who does here exactly what he does for b&s. icing on the cake. also, the album came free with limited-to-2000, canada only 4AD sampler. toronto is great. it makes me wonder why i try so hard to stay in the us. -goon k.- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Thu Oct 29 05:41:17 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:41:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: lollipops Message-ID: ok, so everyone wants a lollipop. well that's just FINE. btw - anyone remember dolly-pops? anyway, i don't think they were ever as popular as furbys. i'm both fascinated and repelled by these gizmos with the ability to communicate. i just fear that mine will talk about how it's so neglected and get all the others to hate me. if there was a movie about toys taking over the earth, it would have to be those. koh mah-mah nye-nye (what rach was trying to say earlier, i talk furbish!). i saw john carpenter's vampires tonight, and it really sucked. it was kind of funny, but some parts were so misogynistic that i was sick to my stomach. luckily, i didn't vomit on anyone. it was free, i would have never paid to see that crap. they're showing velvet goldmine at my school free this weekend. i'll be seeing b&s in dc. i'd rather do that, but dammit, i want ewan too!!! does stuart murdoch do full frontal nudity? i think all scots should. well, no take that back. just the ones that look like ewan mcgregor. i'm a little excited as a certain west virginian is flying in tomorrow!!!! not to mention b&s this weekend. one way or another, i'll have some smut to talk about later. xox megan ps - and yes, the lollipops. i will be bringing them to the dc and nyc shows. if you see me there and say you're on sinister, you get one. aren't i a sweetie? now someone, remind me i said that before i get to the shows (i'm speaking to one of the brians or a matt here) mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Thu Oct 29 08:53:14 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:53:14 Subject: Sinister: Grey Poupee de Cire, etc. Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981029085314.2f17b6a4@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Xavier tried to translate : >So really I think that "Poupee de cire poupee de son" means something like >"Wax doll, talking doll" (or "doll of sound")...but I think it could also >be a pun, as "son" can mean "his." Thanks to Stephane, all the listees will be able to sing wth Isobel. But now, let me be the french teacher: "Son" means bran, in this case. Old dolls were made of wax and filled with bran. Mais seul parfois je soupire Je me dis à quoi bon... Philippe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sburon at xxx.fr Thu Oct 29 07:06:43 1998 From: sburon at xxx.fr (Stephane Buron) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:06:43 +0200 Subject: Sinister: black sessions requests References: <3637ABDF.B219589@revealed.net> Message-ID: <36381402.53C4@club-internet.fr> Hi again, dear listees John Courtney wrote: > I'm another newbie requesting the Black Sessions material > and am willing to pay a more-than-adequate sum, so if anyone > is willing to send me a tape, that person will definitely be > rewarded..... Arrgghhhh!!! NO!!! No one want to be "rewarded" with anything!!! No money on the list, please. It's possible to trade tapes or books ar anything you want but NO MONEY! Boo to the business world, remember??? Well, having said that, I remind you Philippe has sent many tapes of the Black Sessions (for free) to people who may do something for you and who live in the US, in UK, in Asia, all over the world. I hope this system is working well : maybe the persons who got the tapes could remind the list who and where they are. I know the Duke (tangent at lineone.net, in England) is one of them. Just go and have a look at the archives to find out who are the other ones. However... When Belle and Sebastian played this session in Paris, I couldnt record it because of technical problems. But these problems have been solved. So I've got a tape of it and I can duplicate it if you really want to. It will be difficult for me to offer 423 tapes but I can do some of them. Consequently, if you have any problem finding who are the listees with tapes of the Black Sessions near your place, email me privately (Philippe is very very busy at the moment...). I'll see what I can do for you. Just a couple of other things : I'm reading Young and Foolish by the Duke and it's rather wonderful. I wish we could have in France such interresting and exhilarating Pop writers in France. LET'S DO SOMETHING WITH OUR LIVES!!! Alistair, we all love you. Katrina, we love you too : there will be new belle and sebastian ep before christmas and that's the best news for the last 2 months... Stephane, glockenspiel player. -- Visitez le Tweeclub sur http://www.chez.com/tweeclub "I had a job in an office once, I never talked to anyone..." Belle and Sebastian, Pocketbook Angel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kalle at xxx.dk Thu Oct 29 07:43:45 1998 From: kalle at xxx.dk (Kalle) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:43:45 +0200 Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe Message-ID: unsubscribe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aszolnoki at xxx.com Thu Oct 29 09:19:34 1998 From: aszolnoki at xxx.com (Andras Zalan Szolnoki) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 01:19:34 PST Subject: Sinister: The spanish girl band Message-ID: <19981029091935.25798.qmail@hotmail.com> >The spanish girls band Nosotrash made another cover of "poupee de cire..." in their latest recording, "Nadie hablara de Nosotrash". I don?t have this record, but I can find it, if anybody is interested. Yeah , of course! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From travelling_light at xxx.com Thu Oct 29 10:10:32 1998 From: travelling_light at xxx.com (Kin Woo) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 02:10:32 PST Subject: Sinister: sessions at west 54th? Message-ID: <19981029101033.22523.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello sinisterines (nee lovelies). I'm a new 'un to this list and probably the only fan from Australia (except someone called Sarah from Sydney is it?:) Chris Hall told me about you... HI!) So please make me feel at home (which I already do) and be nice to me. I've got one query, someone not too long ago wrote about B&S appearing on that TV show, Sessions at west 54th street. It seems like quite a good show with Tindersticks, Tricky and Beck performing on it, but there are also an awful lot of oldies performing there:) or maybe i'm just being ageist. But i'm a really nice person really. But i've checked their internet address and I can't find any reference to b&s playing on that show. If anyone can help clarify this problem, I'd be much indebted. We have the show here on Channel 10 and I WOULDN'T WANT TO MISS IT if the lovelies did appear! sobsob I might have to leave this list, if only for a little while. I've got exams currently and won't be able to check my email and if I check back in two weeks time, i'll probably have something like 800 emails which is quite frightening that's all for now, hope someone can help me out with my query. seeya Kin Woo ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Thu Oct 29 10:16:00 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:16:00 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Toronto Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7C0A@COR-EXG1> Goon Koch wrote : Subject: Sinister: toronto, mojave 3, many, many pints of ricard's Is it just me being an Olde English shandy drinking poof, or does drinking pints of Ricards sound like it should be followed by a night in Holby General with Doctor Stomachpump....they don't give you an anaesethic you know. Surely Ricards has got to be some sort of Colombian Coffee Liquer ?? Perhaps that nice young lady coming from Seattle will be able to bring me a four pack to Brighton and I'll trade her some of Devons finest apple juice....heh heh heh !! Meester Peter wrote : (For overseas listees, Bob Holness is the man responsible for the saxophone solo on "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty). And for the benefit of me showing off he was also the original James Bond on radio. He then went on to host popular teen-quiz show item Blockbuster, where adolescent bum-fluff sporting types would find it really funny to ask "Can I have a P please Bob?", when it would have been far cleverer to ask "Bob, can I go for a dump mate ?". Bob's career took a nose dive after being caught making out on Clapham Common with the ugly Chuckle Brother. After years in the wilderness Bob's career was resurrected by the BBC when he was asked to do the quiz show for the elderly and criminally insane "Buff my Muff"...only joking it's called "Call my Bluff", and it involves lots of has-been stars of British television now in their nineties, wandering around a BBC studio dribbling and shouting "Bluff?" "Bluff?". PS: Disappointed by the lack of Moog talk today. Moog. Adrian.x.x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Thu Oct 29 11:20:59 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:20:59 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Boobs to the Business World! In-Reply-To: <01be02ac$335b3b40$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Message-ID: Hi listees! I am surprised about that PJMiller, one of our list stars (should I write it with big headings?)lives in Hondarribia! It wasn't difficult to know he lived in Spain (or whatever we call 'this country', I dont want to go into politics)because of his addres, sure, but Hondarribia.I wonder what he does there... Anyway more about the spanish stuff today , I have seen Nosotrash a couple of times and although their albums are all right, playing live they are the most charmless band I can remember. Anyway, their 'Poupee de cire ...' cover is one of their best points, and I enjoy quite a lot one of their own hits , 'Punk Rock City'.How did you manage to know about them? Something funny about France Gall : when she won the Eurovision contest with that song, my father once told me that in Spain (at least in Madrid, maybe)people changed the lyrics and used to sing it saying something like : '...I have won Eurovision because I was wearing a night dress', because her very ye-ye short ,gauzy gown turned out to be quite shocking for Spanish standards those salad days. Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Thu Oct 29 12:11:48 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Johnston) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:11:48 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Vive la France Message-ID: Thank you Stephane, for posting the lyrics to poupee de cire. Isn't French a beautiful language! I'd like to take this opportunity to commend your country for that and having a swinging and bloodthirsty national anthem. Hats off! I remember a fascinating lecture at uni about why the Marseillaise is such a swinging up-tempo tune. Apparently the revolutionary armies of France marched much faster than troops used to in the C18th because they dispensed with baggage trains and lived off the land (and the locals..). (I love history!) Anyhow I was puzzling over the lyrics of PDCPDS and when I came to the verse... Mes disques sont un miroir Dans lequel chacun peut me voir Je suis partout à la fois Brisée en mille éclats de voix I said to myself "Now I'm in a million pieces picked up for deliberation by the people listening at home....". I know mille is really a thousand but the first thing I thought of was the connection and the sentiment is the same isn't it? Meet-ups - Can I be so bold as to suggest that if any London listees wanted a meet up they could do worse than the Bedford Pub in Balham on Thursdays at about 8pm. Because at 9pm my comedy show goes on for about an hour and then theres a bar until 12 or so. This is both a serious suggestion and a shameless plug. I'm on tonight and then again in a couple of weeks time. xx John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From l.r.beattie at xxx.uk Thu Oct 29 12:50:05 1998 From: l.r.beattie at xxx.uk (Lennox Beattie) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:50:05 GMT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <425F30B2442@dundee-as.dundee.ac.uk> Can anyone out there help me end a dispute with my flatmat, on a Century of Elvis off the Lazy Line Painter. Is Elvis a cat or the late lamented Mr. Pressley. I always thought it was the latter but my flatmate swears its a cat ? Before i kill him can anyone tell me if i'm right. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Thu Oct 29 13:07:46 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:07:46 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Philly Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7C0C@COR-EXG1> Sorry, two posts one digest, Sir Clifford of Richard will be knocking on my door any minute. The man with the masculine tank-top wrote : I have heard from semi-reputable sources that the Philly show may be re-scheduled for this Saturday What is a semi-reputable source ? Is it someone who only tells lies on weekday afternoons ? And if so, when did he tell you ? I do hope you all get your "Philly" and Toronto shows. Noone should miss out. I have many dealings (at work I might add..nothing illegal) with a man called Phil Leigh. Naturally he is known as Philly, but whenever you send an e-mail with "Philly" in, the spellchecker brings up Philadelphia as an alternative. I live in Devon for Chrissake, we don't know where America is let alone Philadelphia, and these spellchecker dictionaries are supposed to be English customised...tsk..I don't know. Oxtail cup-a-soup out of a Homer mug...mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. No croutons..DOH ! It must be lunch. Adrian.x.x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Thu Oct 29 13:20:40 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:20:40 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: lollipops In-Reply-To: Message-ID: About Velvet Goldmine and Ewan Mc Gregor 's "shaggability" : 1)The film itself is quite crap, the script is pretentious and empty, and all those references to the green fake emerald coming from Oscar Wilde nearly made me puke, but... 2)I agree that every Scot looking like Ewan should tail him and give us some more reasons to stay alive. When 'Satellite of Love' is played to describe Brian's falling-in-love with magnetic Ewan-Curt , I felt it was me the one taking that rollercoaster ride with him.Not to talk about his quasi Iggy Pop performance...(the one ending with the strip) So , though this film is a crap, Megan you know what to do this weekend for some smut... A. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Thu Oct 29 13:31:13 1998 From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:31:13 -0000 Subject: Sinister: What did the Frenchman say when the tide came in? Message-ID: <014a01be0340$66306330$4429c22b@bond.broadcast> Merci, merci. (Best said in a Glaswegian accent). I've been told by a reliable source that the reason for Isobelle's illness wasn't as innocent as we've been told. Apparently the heady rock 'n' roll lifestyle had been getting to her, and she started experimenting with illicit music. On the night before the Philly gig she was bonking, not to her usual Jacqueline du Pre, but to Oasis!! She spent the next day claiming B&S were 'the best band in the world' and giving the two fingers to people (I was also told she grew an unkempt beard but I don't believe that). The reason that the gig was cancelled was that Richard, who is quite into rock 'n' roll, became infected also and turned his kit into a 50 piece MONSTER KIT. Which he insisted on playing with one hand. Thankfully, after checking the list, Stuart was able to administer a course of suitable Lurve Grooves and all was better. As a way of thanking the list, the band have decided to release Just A Modern Rock Song and, as a special treat, will make it snow on the day of its release. >"Son" means bran, in this case. Old dolls were >made of wax and filled with bran. What is bran? Is that the stuff they make cereals with? >Because at 9pm my comedy show goes on for about >an hour Wow - Am I really being sent tapes by a real-life comedian? How cool is that. By the way, which drawing is yours? And who started it? >Is Elvis a cat or the late lamented Mr. Pressley. Is it not a dog? Michael PS - Merci, Mair sea, More sea - geddit? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Thu Oct 29 13:32:58 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:32:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: What did the Frenchman say when the tide came in? References: <014a01be0340$66306330$4429c22b@bond.broadcast> Message-ID: <36386E8A.C52C1BFA@jeepster.co.uk> Michael wrote: > > >Is Elvis a cat or the late lamented Mr. Pressley. > Is it not a dog? before this starts again you should all check the FAQ on the jeepster site and the archives on the sinister site. isn't elvis some broccoli? david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snorman at xxx.uk Thu Oct 29 14:28:56 1998 From: snorman at xxx.uk (Sam Norman) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:28:56 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Brighton,Brighton,Brighton (fwd) Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:26:24 +0000 (GMT) From: Sam Norman To: Archel Subject: Re: Sinister: Brighton,Brighton,Brighton lets all go to brighton as it is the coolest place.... and my horrible ex girlfriend now lives there and i can go and haunt her +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Thu Oct 29 14:49:36 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (S.K. Gardiner) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:49:36 +0000 (gmt) Subject: Sinister: Answers and questions In-Reply-To: <36386E8A.C52C1BFA@jeepster.co.uk> Message-ID: Whoever was asking about the West 54th session - and anyone else who doesn't know: B&S recorded a session for the TV when they were in New York this time last year. Unfortunately they didn't think it was very good (Stuart M even stopped halfway through Mayfly and borrowed a copy of the album from someone in the audience because he forgot the words), and the program's editors agreed, so it has never been (and will never be) broadcast. So you'll have to make do with getting hold of an audio tape of it (I would offer to do people copies but I'm snowed under with tapes already at the moment). Elvis: The great Elvis debate of 1997 took place before the Sinister list took over from the old list, so it's not in the archives. The conclusion was that although Stuart still claims that he wrote it about a cat, we all know that Elvis is in fact a sprig of broccoli. While I'm at it, because I'm sure someone will ask before long, Seymour Stein is a record label boss from America (who was present at the West 54th session, when they played the song), String Bean Jean is about the girl who appears on the cover of one of the releases (can't remember which one off hand), and Judy is a paraplegic Swiss man on a donkey. Well if anyone's still awake after a rare bout of relevancy in one of my postings, I've got a question for you lot. Has anyone spent any time in either Ghana or Southern Chile? Because I'm going to one of them next summer for 10 weeks, and I can't decide which to go to. TTFN, Big Stu (Who's suprised noone has linked the smutty talk of late with the thread that was going last week about types of cheese...) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pat at xxx.net Thu Oct 29 14:43:24 1998 From: Pat at xxx.net (Pat Rapa) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:43:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: the legion of doom Message-ID: I've heard from a very reputable that the Philly show will likely NOT be rescheduled. But the Flyers are going to destroy the Senators tonight, so that will have to do. Sorry. I'm interested in the possibilities of an intra-continental rivalry. Patrick +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Thu Oct 29 15:46:19 1998 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksandaJill) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:46:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Thanks Phillippe! Message-ID: <199810291546.KAA29778@dept.english.upenn.edu> Thank goodness there are real French people around. I didn't think I could make up any more hunches about Serge lyrics than I already did!:) Bran, interesting...so Phillippe, do you not think that "son" could possibly mean "sound" or "his" at all? I didn't realize just how huge this song was back in the day when it was th Eurovision winner until I was playing FG for my mom and even *she* remembered hearing it in Korea at the time!!!? I don't know if it was France singing in Japanese or what, but jeez, that's pretty big. I guess "les ye-yes" hit everywhere except for mainstream America at the time...? Xavier -- BXK "It's recess everywhere bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu but in his heart." http://www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 --Ralph Wiggum X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ETLRDHY at xxx.se Thu Oct 29 15:48:43 1998 From: ETLRDHY at xxx.se (ETLRDHY at xxx.se) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:48:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Brighton, looking good for your money. Message-ID: <002566AC.00503AFA.00@notes.ericsson.se> Dear All, It seems as though Brighton is quite a popular venue for a possible Listee meet up. I like the idea of meeting on the pier, even though I'm convinced the sea is quite evil and can only bring harm to mankind. How many of you live in Brighton? I've been here for six weeks now. It seems like quite a nice place. Even though I'm currently living on a sofa I feel quiet at home. Maybe there's something in that. I dunno. We've got a friend called 'Junky' Justin come down to visit us from Durham. His favourite escapade is drinking 10 pints, taking loads of Acid and driving around the streets in his ford Anglia. He's not really a junky I suppose, just likes to get off his head. Junky sounds more glamorous though doesn't it? He's quite a weedy chap who used to have dreadlocks but now works for a cement company. He used to wear his dreadlocks under a psychedelic beenie hat. Him and his friend used to do this really strange dance to the Mary Chain which would involve sitting down and leaning against a pillar in the middle of a round dancefloor (Le Phonographique,Leeds) and looking very bored, or maybe he was just off his head again, I don't know. I could always ask him tonight when I get home from work. Tonight I am DEFINITELY going to buy some cheese, and wine, I could make Fondue. Maybe if people do decide to meet up it would be a good idea to have a fondue on the beach, seeing how the list is quite into it's cheeses. Well, I'll leave you with my lazy tab for Sleep The Clock Around. Sleep The Clock Around as Transcribed by RIchard Healey F, C,Dm,Bb rpt to end. See you later xxxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Thu Oct 29 16:01:23 1998 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (James M Errington) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:01:23 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Don't read this message! Oh..., go on then. Message-ID: <199810291555.PAA30758@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 2195 bytes Desc: not available URL: From snorman at xxx.uk Thu Oct 29 15:51:10 1998 From: snorman at xxx.uk (Sam Norman) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:51:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: like dylan on BBC2 Message-ID: OK i've just checked the archives but can't find any other references, but on Saturday night that Kurt & Coutney documentary will be shown and than followed by Don't Look Back! I think the programmes start at about 9.30ish but do check first. Oh and P.S. there is a feature on B&S in this months Select. It's an interview from about a year ago but they've only just run it. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Scott_Turner at xxx.COM Thu Oct 29 16:04:37 1998 From: Scott_Turner at xxx.COM (Scott Turner) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:04:37 -0500 Subject: Sinister: the legion of doom Message-ID: <852566AC.0057195F.00@JHMAIL.JH.COM> Citypaperpat wrote: "But the Flyers are going to destroy the Senators tonight, so that will have to do." ________________________________________ is it possible to enjoy nibblin on a biscuit, while your favorite cardigan is draped elegantly over a goofy hockey jersey. hmmph!!!! and a couple of months ago, you'all looked at me funny when I said that philly was a crappy city.... .scott - dreamin of a town where people play footie on sunny days and prefer daydreaming in the late afternoon light to cheesesteaks. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Oct 29 16:06:40 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:06:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Rung and Two Fish Message-ID: <01be0356$1de88100$LocalHost@itjfvkli> I've just spent a highly enjoyable couple of hours reading the Dukester's "Young and Foolish" book, which the postie kindly brought this morning. I'm particularly thrilled to see that my preference for Denim over Felt has been immortalised. I imagine that in hundreds of years' time people will stare at it agog and ask each other "Who is this pop prophet "Peter", a man with the foresight to see that Denim were much better than Felt?" Well, I don't suppose they'll use the word "foresight", because it's wrong, but that's the great thing about pop, it's all about a feeling. Whoops, I appear to be under the influence. New listees can indeed enjoy some of the sparkling debate that went on round these parts exactly one year ago, spooky though it may seem. I've also started a great Cuban book, the Dirty Trilogy of Havana. It's got plenty of smut, including an entirely new concept to me, up the bum sex. Has anyone ever heard of it? The book, I mean. It's by Pedro Juan Gutierrez. T minus three hours! We get the space shuttle launch live on the telly tonight because there's a Spanish bloke going. I'm going to get totally fucking zonked on uppers and downers so that it freaks me out even more. If I can find any in the fridge, that is. I saw a film, "Manny and Lo", at the pictures. Most listees would probably enjoy it because it's quite twee at times and deals with the one of the list's major preoccupations, unwanted teenage pregnancies. I meant to waffle on about it the other day, but I think I forgot. For my next trick, I shall consume two mandarin oranges, because I'm hungry. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pat at xxx.net Thu Oct 29 16:16:15 1998 From: Pat at xxx.net (Pat Rapa) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:16:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: the legion of doom In-Reply-To: <852566AC.0057195F.00@JHMAIL.JH.COM> Message-ID: >is it possible to enjoy nibblin on a biscuit, while your favorite cradigan >is drpaed elegnatly over a goofy hockey jesrey. > >hmmph!!!! > >and a couple of months ago, you'all lkkoed at me funny whne I said that >phlliy was a carppy city.... > >.scott >- dreamin of a town wehre people play footie on sunny days and prefer >dadreaming in the ltae afternoon light to chessesteaks. > I can't read this. too many typos. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Thu Oct 29 16:30:51 1998 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:30:51 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: This is just a Modern Rock Song ... Message-ID: The Modern Rock Song has always struck me as being a song of two halves. The first half is quite funny and a bit daft but still nothing to wet your pants over but the second half -"I'm not as sad as Dostoyevsky ..." is wonderful. This is a bit odd cos the song doesn't change much. I went to see the Trueman Show the other day at our local cinema called the Savoy. It's a lovely place where they have plush double seats, and intermissions so you can buy ice-cream. I thought the first half was great and really sad, but the second half, when he knew he wasn't living in the real world, was practically a different film. Like having Jurassic Park without any dinosaurs after the intermission. Neverthless, despite this strange double-sided phenomenon, the Modern Rock Song is great and I'm glad that it's being released at last. On an e.p. as well - ace! ooops, I've just wet my pants. Bye! Robin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Thu Oct 29 16:18:04 1998 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetryplace2) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:18:04 -0000 Subject: Sinister: the chance meeting of an umbrella and a sewing machine on an operating table Message-ID: <01be0357$b4f44ce0$046b9ac2@g5-200-3> Hello >>Jennifer Phillips-Bacher: the spark of intelligence in your blinking eyes is not unlike the glow from the teeth of an electrocuted axe-murderess. << It's okay. I haven't had a funny turn. Remember all the fun we had with the Shakespearean insult-generator? Well, I just came across the surrealist compliment generator, which is much more in-keeping with the caring, sharing tone of sinister. What wizard japes! It's at http://pharmdec.wustl.edu/cgi-bin/jardin_scripts/SCG >>Peter Miller: Hermaphrodites around the galaxy desire that you turn your rock and crochet bowl to its loudest setting.<< I went to see the new French film "Vulvic Landmine" last night with steadymike and pam. I have to disagree with our earlier correspondents. As Mr Miller might say, "What," thought Trousers "is the point of a film about glam rock if it isn't filled with pretentious epigrams and people pretending to be Oscar Wilde?" I found it highly enjoyable, but then I would say that, wouldn't I? I particularly enjoyed Dickon Edwards' performance as Brian Slade. I'm disappointed to see that Stuart Murdoch continues to be typecast, appearing here as one "Jack Fairy". If the acting is occasionally dodgy, the music is uniformly ace... Yes, even the bit with the poisoned dwarf out of Placebo murdering 20th Century Boy is good for a hoot. Another winner from Mr Polanski, then! >> Sezzie: So charmingly heathen, your skin is like a teardrop on a popsickle.<< Talking of Placebo, I am glad to see that our choicest jesters of jingle-jangle jolliness are rising to the challenge of leaving a trail of blood and semen across North America. Bravo! >>Chris Leonard: Your delightful banana reminds me of a cosmonaut in high heels.<< In the immortal words of Sir Noddy Holder: "Iiiiiiit's Chriiiiiiiisssstmmmmaaaaaaaas!". Well it will be soon. For the southern tarquins and jaspers who find the weather too inclement up in the arctic circle around New Year, there will be a Sinister Xmas party at the Poetry Cafe in Covent Garden, London, on Friday 18 December*. The cafe staff tell me that they are willing to prepare us a sumptuous buffet, but this would mean charging a fee of around £5 per head. Does this sound reasonable, chums? Also it would be good to get some ideas of numbers, so if you have any comments, email me privately. >>HoneyPaul: The phase of your hallucinations reminds me of those balmy days when the championship mould was breeding, when the fish were long, and so were the valued floats of men we drank through narrow straws...<< Does anyone like Paul Auster? I've just been delivered a shipment of his books from Faber, in shiny new editions. Personally, I think he is no better than a damned dawg, but if anyone would like them, I will gladly put them in the post. Maybe I will set another exciting competition. Peace, list >>In caressing your follicles I am only vaguely reminded of the bitter harvest.<< Stevie Trousers xoxoxoxo * You will notice that the Xmas party is three days after my birthday, or "Trousersday", as it is known. It is a custom among my people that on Trousersday, people send me a variety of lovely lower-body wear. I have a particular penchant for moleskin. My measurments are available on request. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Thu Oct 29 16:44:48 1998 From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:44:48 -0000 Subject: Sinister: This is just a Modern Rock Song ... Message-ID: <001a01be035b$714d2120$4429c22b@bond.broadcast> >The Modern Rock Song has always struck me >as being a song of two halves. The first half >is quite funny and a bit daft but still nothing >to wet your pants over but the second half - >"I'm not as sad as Dostoyevsky ..." is wonderful. >This is a bit odd cos the song doesn't change much. Then there's the third bit, where Stevie sings about sorry laments and boys in corduroys (sp?). Best B&S song? Hmmm, maybe, but there is stiff competition from Loneliness. (And yes, I am trying to start another dull list thread. After my Elvis as a dog attempt was shot down quickly by David, I'm going to try to get every one to email their favorite song - just wait for lots of "Yes, thats mine too". He he he.) Michael PS I used to live right beside Easterhouse, and it is a well scary place. Not the kind of place you'd find a twee biscuit muncher staring at aeroplanes, I can assure you. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Thu Oct 29 16:45:41 1998 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksandaJill) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:45:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Ah, the Beach Boys (you can read this message) Message-ID: <199810291645.LAA52538@dept.english.upenn.edu> James, is that the Cd for the documentary "Endless Harmony"? If so, I must take issue with your use of words to describe "Brian's Back"....needless to say as an amateur BB snob I really despise anything Mike L. does that gets in the way of things ("Kokomo," etc.). I mean, he's fine as a team player, but ... oh, I should shut up now or I'll never stop. Let's just say I hate him.:) Anyway, that documentary is really really good. Was it shown in the UK? I remember right after they showed this, they then showed an old American Bandstand where the poor Beach Boys performed on a show dedicated to...the Beatles! Every song was a Beatles song that the kids were grooving to. Then the Beach Boys got up and did a spot-on, note-for-note perfect (all right, it was lipsynched) "Don't Worry Baby." That song makes me cry, it really does. At least Mike Love didn't dance. But it must've felt strange to be on that particular show, what with the BB-Beatles rivalry and all... I wanna cry-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y... Xavier -- BXK "It's recess everywhere bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu but in his heart." http://www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 --Ralph Wiggum X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paul.field at xxx.com Thu Oct 29 17:02:36 1998 From: paul.field at xxx.com (Paul Field) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:02:36 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Is this smut? Message-ID: <01BE035D.EF457120.paul.field@cmgplc.com> Adrian Evans wrote: Is it just me being an Olde English shandy drinking poof, or does drinking pints of Ricards sound like it should be followed by a night in Holby General with Doctor Stomachpump....they don't give you an anaesethic you know. Surely Ricards has got to be some sort of Colombian Coffee Liquer ?? That is surely the smuttiest thing that's ever been on here! I believe that it originated from Goon Koch. Isn't Hamilton Ricard the current leading scorer in the premiership? (apologies to all who couldn't give a shit). So what of his is it that you want to drink?? John Johnston wrote: Meet-ups - Can I be so bold as to suggest that if any London listees wanted a meet up they could do worse than the Bedford Pub in Balham on Thursdays at about 8pm. Because at 9pm my comedy show goes on for about an hour and then theres a bar until 12 or so. This is both a serious suggestion and a shameless plug. I'm on tonight and then again in a couple of weeks time. That sounds ok to me as it's about a 5min walk from my house (I am a lazy get and she is as pure as the cold driven snow). It is good too - a dive, but top entertainment, although I don't think I've ever seen you there John, so I'm not being sycophantic. I'm working in East Kilbride at the moment though, so I won't be able to make it probably till December. By the way, with me being in these foreign parts, could anyone from Glasgow please tell me the location of the Grovesnor cafe? To Mr. Cassarotto (sorry if I spelt that wrong) - you were bloody lucky! Byeee Paul. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mars at xxx.net Thu Oct 29 17:10:22 1998 From: mars at xxx.net (M R McDonald) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:10:22 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Ah, the Beach Boys (you can read this message) References: <199810291645.LAA52538@dept.english.upenn.edu> Message-ID: <3638A17E.1594CD7D@pe.net> > James, is that the Cd for the documentary "Endless Harmony"? If so, I > > must take issue with your use of words to describe "Brian's > Back"... > > Anyway, that documentary is really really good. Was it shown in the > UK? It is going to be released as a full length (the TV show cut about 15 minutes or so of footage) video for home purchase sometime in early 1999. (It was going to be released later this year, but was postponed.) I'm pretty sure a PAL version will be available for the UK market. And this message for the poster, Xavier: Have you joined the Pet Sounds Mailing List? It has predominantly the point of view regarding ML and the other BBs, particularly BW that you seem to express. I highly recommend it. mars at pe.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jgockley at xxx.edu Thu Oct 29 17:10:16 1998 From: jgockley at xxx.edu (Jessica Gockley) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:10:16 -0500 Subject: Sinister: dear sinister Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981029121016.006a0a9c@beacon.eastern.edu> Hello lovelies. I haven't written since the Philadelphia failure - probably a mixture of heartbreak and busy-ness (it's been a crazy week). I'm very glad we had the post-show party even in spite of the lack of show...it would have been terrible to have to go straight home and have to deal with the sorrow all by myself. Maybe we can even have another Philly get-together under more auspicious circumstances sometime, eh? To everyone i owe a tape to: i'm sorry, it really HAS been a busy week. I promise i'll get them out soon. My lovely little fish Sebastian is making faces at me. Did i mention that i have a radio show called The Electronic Renaissance? I've completely forgotten what the point of this email was supposed to be. I started out having something to say, but this meaning is no longer with me. I'm going to send this anyway, though. Pish. Love, Jessica Foxinasnow "The world is a wonderful place to be born into if you don't mind happiness not always being so very much fun, if you don't mind a touch of hell now and then just when everything is fine" - Lawrence Ferlinghetti Jessica Gockley | Box 326 Eastern College | 1300 Eagle Road | St Davids, PA 19087 | 610-225-5403 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Thu Oct 29 17:16:17 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:16:17 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Three in one Day ? Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7C12@COR-EXG1> Three in one day indeed I know, but..... We have established now that us southern sassies are going to have some sort of shenannigans at Brighton, and, If you hold your horses for just a little while longer Jakenny has posted to the message board at Uncle David Kitchens love palace...it just takes a couple of days to go through the pipeline while David and Katrina filter through these messages and decide whether or not they like us enough to advertise the meet up. So, If we can wait a couple of days and post follow-ups to Jakes message rather than flood Honey's fabbo list with inane southern dribblings it would leave us free to talk about what music Honey likes to bump n grind to. I reckon The Wurzels Greatest Hit(s). Again, please lets not incur the wrath of Splat. I for one don't want to be sent to bed without my cup-a-soup tonight. MORE SMUT VICAR ! Adrian.x.x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From prosella at xxx.com Thu Oct 29 17:22:41 1998 From: prosella at xxx.com (Paige Rosella) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:22:41 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Sessions a W 54th Message-ID: <01BE0336.D3D017A0@n139.natureny.com> I have heard from a very reliable source, that there is a tape of their never-aired show in circulation. Has anyone seen it? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From casio at xxx.com Thu Oct 29 17:31:14 1998 From: casio at xxx.com (Tony Zito) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:31:14 -0500 Subject: Sinister: This is just a Modern Rock Song ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <199810291728.MAA26996@bottlerocket.com> another instance of said phenomenon: New Bad Things' "the dirge", where the song is all well and lovely with just hattie hein singing, then the all bloody choir takes it away with "I love you no matter where you spend the night", &c, and things are simply lifted. simply yrs, tony robots At 11:30 AM 10/29/98 , Robin Stout wrote: > >The Modern Rock Song has always struck me as being a song of two >halves. The first half is quite funny and a bit daft but still >nothing to wet your pants over but the second half -"I'm not as sad >as Dostoyevsky ..." is wonderful. This is a bit odd cos the song >doesn't change much. >I went to see the Trueman Show the other day at our local cinema >called the Savoy. It's a lovely place where they have plush double >seats, and intermissions so you can buy ice-cream. I thought the >first half was great and really sad, but the second half, when he >knew he wasn't living in the real world, was practically a different >film. Like having Jurassic Park without any dinosaurs after the >intermission. >Neverthless, despite this strange double-sided phenomenon, the Modern >Rock Song is great and I'm glad that it's being released at last. On >an e.p. as well - ace! > >ooops, I've just wet my pants. > >Bye! > Robin > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Carmen at xxx.us Thu Oct 29 17:32:14 1998 From: Carmen at xxx.us (Carmen) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:32:14 -0500 Subject: Sinister: ANYTHING! Message-ID: <199810291232140360.01029891@204.96.36.40> I am looking for anything Belle and Sebastian, especially Tigermilk. Please help me out. I am a poor, isolated, apathetic American, and I need B&S to cope with my depressing life. Email me at carmen at provincetown.k12.ma.us if you can help me. Also, I saw the Boston show at the Morse Auditorium and I was amazed! I was shocked how hard they can rock! It was quite a thing to see all of them live. Isobel wasn't feeling well, and unfortunately it showed-- poor girl. I just hope she is feeling better. ...CARMEN... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From RBARRETT at xxx.ie Thu Oct 29 17:23:00 1998 From: RBARRETT at xxx.ie (Barrett Ronan) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:23 +0100 (CET) Subject: Sinister: Defrosting the fridge Message-ID: <01J3JWTDX3B6013JW6@vms.eurokom.ie> Hello all Thanks to Katrina for the new EP info. Only 6 weeks to go before we finally get to hear the studio version of best song ever written with a line about defrosting the fridge. Goody goody. When I was over in France during the summer the natives failed to live up to their mean-spirited stereotype quite spectacularly by all being dead sound, and now that Philippe (one L, 3 Ps, etc) has sent me the tape of the Black Sessions I'll never hear another bad word about those wonderful people again. My side of the bargain is that anyone in Ireland who wants a copy of the session can mail me and let me know and I'll sort something out. At the moment there is a queue of two. If I'm in a good mood I might even copy the cover that Philippe sent me with photos from the gig. The gig itself is really good, if you can put up with the band's usual shameless self-promotion (2 whole songs off the current album!) Mr.Lenoir's ramblings between songs make for a good laugh too. (If you're not in Ireland but would be prepared to tape some non-album Stephin Merritt songs for me my arm could be twisted too). While I'm here, can I just recommend the new Boo Radleys LP to anyone who is even vaguely tempted to buy it as it is bloody marvellous. Unlike last time out, there are loads of P!O!P! songs and unlike the previous time out they are not quite P!O!P! enough to have every breakfast show ever playing them for eternity. What with B&S covering her songs, and a couple that I've heard on the tape tree (Kevan, I think), could anyone recommend a starting point for France Gall? A bientot Ronan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: WINMAIL.DAT Type: application/x-tnef Size: 2765 bytes Desc: not available URL: From lapis at xxx.edu Thu Oct 29 17:43:35 1998 From: lapis at xxx.edu (dave cohen) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:43:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Defrosting the fridge (fwd) Message-ID: <199810291743.MAA28518@pobox.upenn.edu> > > What with B&S covering her songs, and a couple that I've heard on the > tape tree (Kevan, I think), could anyone recommend a starting point for > France Gall? > > A bientot > > Ronan there is a good compilation of early songs (pre-68) called France Gall: Poupee de Son, on polygram i believe. --d +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Thu Oct 29 13:49:39 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:49:39 -0000 Subject: Sinister: la la la laaaaa, do do do doooooo (SFA) Message-ID: <000001be0367$7a635e80$584d989e@elsato97> Woo! And indeed, hooo! This is Mullet Man (nooo he isn't) and Fluffy from FLUFFYS mail! Yes, huzzah I have my mail back on a posh new pooter! Outlook Express, wayhey, thats good, not. But rah rah rasputin, look what mail I have for meeeeee! if I send any mail in stupid HTML forms which hopefully I won't be doing, then let me know and I'll bully Gary to tell me how to change it. >Belle & Sebastian release a new EP, as yet untitled on December 7th, >1998. The tracklisting will be (but not necessarily in this order) >This Is Just A Modern Rock Song (*sigh*, i love this song ... aahhhhh) >Slow Graffiti (from the soundtrack to The Acid House) >The Gate (another Isobel composition + vocal) >I Know Where The Summer Goes (lovely, lovely, lovely) Hehe, Gary says in honour of the new EP coming out, he'll buy the album. Gary stinks by the way. I don't. OOH YEY new E.P new E.P! Hey! I've converted some more peeople to B&S fans! I made Media Chris a tape, and he forced his drummer to listen to it, and now they are both in love....(but it isn't real just danielle steele) >Apparently Sarah is shooting a video for "...Modern Rock Song" but i >should have more details about that when the band get back from the U.S. Hey, no I'm not. I would do though! As my media studies practical production! Speaking of which, I'm doing a loosely based B&S zine for this, with lots of made up scandalous gossip about the band, if anybody wishes to write anything for it, or tell me that Richard has got a mole for a nose but hides it really well tell me and I'll give you a banana. We're going to Blackpool now to eat candy floss! I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy 'posh computer' Candarel and mullet ra! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at Thu Oct 29 18:55:52 1998 From: Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at (Vanessa R. Siegl) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 19:55:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: hello from an Austrian convert In-Reply-To: <199810281309.NAA08299@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <271FF1D78D0@s06user2.uibk.ac.at> hello to everybody on this list I am Vanessa from Austria quite a recent convert even though I knew about the band for a while I'd like to say hello to all Austrians on this list, to all the lucky ones who went to the show in Munich (I was so busy whining that I'd never get to see Belle and Sebastian that I didn't know about that show until three weeks after it) ... Anyway I am a 21 year old student (until next year when I'll hopefully be able to start photocollege in Vienna) of arts and history ... love vanxxx _____________________________________________________________ A girl who likes Jarvis Cocker longs for more variety in bed (German psychologist in PETRA) csaa7950 at uibk.ac.at or _gapminder at yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Thu Oct 29 19:27:16 1998 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksandaJill) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:27:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Don't go past '67 for France! Message-ID: <199810291927.OAA47266@dept.english.upenn.edu> Just a caveat. I can't stand any of the '68-onward material...it certainly ain't pop music by any stretch of the imagination. Any compilation featuring the following songs will most likely be great because everything from '63 (I think?) to '67 is excellent perky pop..."Laisse Tomber Les Filles," "Baby Pop," "Poupee De Cire Poupee De Son," "Les Sucettes," and maybe "Teenie Weenie Boppie." If you ask me, and you didn't, my favorite songs are "Un Fille D'un Garcon," "Laisse...", "Christiansen," "La Guerre Des Chanson," "La Rose Des Vents"....I have the boxed set (also called _Poupee De Cire Poupee De Son_) which has around 64 songs....and I still need more. She sang in seven other languages or something too. If we had more France Galls, we'd have less wars, maybe. Xavier -- BXK "It's recess everywhere bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu but in his heart." http://www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 --Ralph Wiggum X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ezmartin at xxx.com Thu Oct 29 17:37:00 1998 From: ezmartin at xxx.com (Martin, Ezra) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:37:00 -0500 Subject: Sinister: B&S tix for sale - Nov 1 Message-ID: <199810291737.AA04487@interlock.randomhouse.com> Hello all. i have 2 tix for the B&S show Nov 1 at the Supper Club. Please email private for details, as I am now unsubbing. Thanks, ezra +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Gareth at xxx.uk Wed Oct 28 20:16:15 1998 From: Gareth at xxx.uk (Gareth Probert) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:16:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Just received a staggering 301 mails... Message-ID: <36377B8F.37761346@probert-edi.compulink.co.uk> Hello there I have been doing various things over the past week that have kept me from using my computer, and so I hadn't checked my mail since Friday evening. I pressed get message and it said "Receiving 1 of 301 messages". I had expected a lot, but that was amazing. And I will tell you what else - I actually went through them all. As you may have gathered, I have only just had the torrent of news about Isobel and the concerts and things, and it was all rather a lot to take in at once. I gather that now Isobel is a lot better, which of course is great. Also, everyone seems to have got over their misfortunes. I must say thank you to IndiaRubb at aol for the tabs, and for the people that sent in the corrections. I am always pleased to be able to play more music, especially from TBWTAS. It is also great to have got a load of mails from Honey, as I haven't had many before. Nice to know he is there, watching over us all. By the way, does anybody on the list read Alistair MacLean books? If so I would like to know, as I am fast running out of books and need more to fuel my thirst for his literature. In case you don't know who he is, he wrote The Guns of Navarone - you may have seen the film. Wow! I have never written an mail this long before. Hope I haven't bored you too much. Glad to hear about the new releases from B&S and Salako - I will have to save up my pocket money. Well, better be off. Hope you are all well Gareth +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paula at xxx.uk Thu Oct 29 19:35:36 1998 From: paula at xxx.uk (paula wiseman) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 19:35:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Brighton!! Message-ID: <3638C387.B4A21E03@hannoncom.prestel.co.uk> I was in Brighton last weekend, and was in that shop next to McDonalds that sells wierd candles and notebooks. They were playing "If you're Feeling Sinister" on the music system! There must be loads of B&S fans there! Brighton sounds like a good idea for a meet-up. Count me in, depending on dates. I live just along the coast in sunny Bognor Regis. Paula xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vanessa.figueras at xxx.se Thu Oct 29 21:00:07 1998 From: vanessa.figueras at xxx.se (Vanessa Figueras) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:00:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: hello from an Austrian convert References: <271FF1D78D0@s06user2.uibk.ac.at> Message-ID: <3638D757.181B4417@swipnet.se> yay, another one called Vanessa!! I'm no longer a freak! sorry, I just had to... Vanessa Vanessa R. Siegl wrote: > hello to everybody on this list I am Vanessa from Austria quite a > recent convert even though I knew about the band for a while > I'd like to say hello to all Austrians on this list, to all the > lucky ones who went to the show in Munich (I was so busy whining that > I'd never get to see Belle and Sebastian that I didn't know about > that show until three weeks after it) ... > > Anyway I am a 21 year old student (until next year when I'll > hopefully be able to start photocollege in Vienna) of arts and > history ... > > love vanxxx > _____________________________________________________________ > A girl who likes Jarvis Cocker longs for more variety in bed > (German psychologist in PETRA) > > csaa7950 at uibk.ac.at or _gapminder at yahoo.com > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samiamx at xxx.com Thu Oct 29 21:34:27 1998 From: samiamx at xxx.com (Sam Devere) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:34:27 PST Subject: Sinister: DC Meetup Message-ID: <19981029213427.12979.qmail@hotmail.com> Just a reminder that we're meeting at Polly's (not Polly Esther's) around 6:30 on Friday. Sam ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mappster at xxx.edu Thu Oct 29 22:14:03 1998 From: mappster at xxx.edu (Robert David Mapp) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:14:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe sinister In-Reply-To: Message-ID: unsubscribe sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TJDICKEY at xxx.com Thu Oct 29 22:56:10 1998 From: TJDICKEY at xxx.com (TJDICKEY at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:56:10 EST Subject: Sinister: The desperate things you made me do... Message-ID: <9aeaede3.3638f28a@aol.com> I was one of the many disappointed Philly fans. I likened the event to having my heart broken(which actually happened the next morning). On the drive home I made a pact with myself that I would not listen to B&S for a whole month. I made it about a day. Now, I am desperate. Since the Philly show definitely will not be rescheduled(I spoke with the Troc. boxoffice today and they said it was a no go), I still have an empty spot in my life that needs to be filled by seeing this band.(in case you did not notice I am trying to sound as pathetic as possible in the hope to invoke some sympathy from someone). If anyone out there can answer my plea it is this: I need a ticket to see B&S in New York(beggers can't be chosers so either show will do). Take into consideration my heartbreak(both of them), the void in my existence and exactly how much I love this band. Although it is probably not wise to mention this, but I would be willing to pay a "reasonable" fee for said ticket. E-mail me privately if you feel the need to definitely improve what has been a crappy week(did I mention that I also did not get a job that I went on three interviews for, more disappointment I simply cannot stand). "Everybody needs a home. Take centuries to build, seconds to fall..." SM stay gold, TD +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From barzy at xxx.com Thu Oct 29 23:45:47 1998 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:45:47 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Belle & Sebastiantown Massacre Message-ID: Going through a bunch of CDs in my office I stumbled upon this Brian Jonestown Massacre CD (i've never been much of a fan to tell the truth..one of those localish bands ..like The Dandy Warhols, that i've not been able to take seriously..maybe because the lead singer dropped his pants singing once and was flopping about and...oh the hours of therapy I needed after....80 dollars a session! Sheesh..) anyway....I read the special thanks, just cause and they thanked Belle & Sebastian and I can't help but wonder if they actually *know* them and were saying cheers to some good ole chums, or if it was like ...when people thank God and/or The Velvet Underground on CDS and stuff.... one can never be TOO sure ya know. P.S. of COURSE this comes from jealousy cause THEY'RE in a crappy band that WENT somewhere AND possibly know B&S ...I'd feel so much better if they didn't I suppose. Hell is where i'll go.... beth xx's II 8) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Julie_Smith at xxx.com Wed Oct 28 21:16:03 1998 From: Julie_Smith at xxx.com (Julie_Smith at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:16:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Weren't we Message-ID: <01J3JMA9UAD68X0ZD2@NOTELT.MED.IACNET.COM> talking about mondegreens a while back? I discovered this explanation on the web . . . The term "mondegreen" was invented by the writer Sylvia Wright in 1954, and for an explanation of the circumstances, we turn to Mr. Mondegreen himself, columnist Jon Carroll of the San Francisco Chronicle, who has made it his personal crusade to popularize the care and feeding of mondegreens: "As a child [Sylvia Wright] had heard the Scottish ballad ''The Bonny Earl of Murray" and had believed that one stanza went like this: Ye Highlands and Ye Lowlands, Oh where hae you been?, They hae slay the Earl of Murray, And Lady Mondegreen. "Poor Lady Mondegreen, thought Sylvia Wright. A tragic heroine dying with her liege; how poetic. When it turned out, some years later, that what they had actually done was slay the Earl of Murray and lay him on the green, Wright was so distraught by the sudden disappearance of her heroine that she memorialized her with a neologism." If you all, like me are curious about the origins of words and phrases, you should definitely check out this site. http://www.word-detective.com/backidx.html I guess this isn't exactly B & S content, but then, they seem to be talented wordsmiths to say the least. Julie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Julie_Smith at xxx.com Fri Oct 30 01:19:08 1998 From: Julie_Smith at xxx.com (Julie_Smith at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:19:08 -0800 Subject: Sinister: News from moonbeam land Message-ID: <882566AD.0004071E.00@circus.med.iacnet.com> Hey kids. To make up for the incredibly uncreative mondegreen post, I thought I'd speak up and show you an ink polaroid I took last weekend. I've been pretty quiet up til now, but at the urging of another list member (you know who you are) I've decided to speak up. Just don't laugh (at least not AT me). This picture was taken in Delores Park, (You know, the one in San Francisco, by the mission?) last Sunday at about 5pm. See me? I'm the one with brown hair, a black cardigan and a miserable look because the grass is wet and the wind has started to come up. Marci's sitting next to me, smoking a cigarette. She's easy to spot because she's wearing a white button down shirt and it's getting dark. Andy (brown sweater and goofy grin) is in the act of stealing a cigarette from me (see how his hand is blurry?) You can't hear our conversation, but if you could, you'd hear Andy asking me to send him a tape of Belle and Sebastian as soon as he gets back to San Diego. Just prior to the taking of this picture I'd forced him to listen to B & S in the car and he'd been pretty quickly converted. I felt so proud! Oh, those other blurry images are the thirty or so neighborhood dogs cavorting and playing all around us. If you liked that picture, maybe I'll show you the one from the biker bar. Maybe. Julie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erinlew at xxx.com Fri Oct 30 02:16:06 1998 From: erinlew at xxx.com (Erin Lewis) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:16:06 PST Subject: Sinister: ya take the good, ya take the bad, ya take 'em both & there ya have... Message-ID: <19981030021607.25816.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey kids! Bad news first: Funny that Matthew Neimark should mention a radio show called "Breakfast of Champions", because I just read in Jane magazine that a movie of the same name is in the works. If this is an adaptation of my favorite Vonnegut novel, THIS IS HORRIBLE NEWS! Anyone who has read the book knows what I'm talking about, because there's no way they can do justice to the book. And I don't mean this in an indiesnob way. I mean there are *things* in this book you cannot recreate. (This should inspire you to get reading, shouldn't it?) Does anyone else care? Good news second: Stevie Trousers is THE coolest person on the list right now, because I say so. I don't know if Mr. Trousers knew that my 21st birthday is this weekend (plug, plug), but I just received the best present, undoubtedly, from him. I will not tell you what is inside it, for fear he will be bombarded by requests to reproduce his work of art, but let's just say it's the nicest thing a stranger's ever sent me. (And yes, that includes Tigermilk - gasp!) Interesting news last: My brother is one of the head librarians at the CSU Fresno Music Library (one of the largest music collections in California - hoo-ha), and the library just got a big, fat grant to go and buy new CDs. The best part is that I gave him a list of my essential picks for his shopping list, and he's going to buy them. So now, thanks to me, "If You're Feeling Sinister" will get its own catalog number and place on a shelf in the library. (Also included on the list of library-worthy material were Jeff Buckley and "Louder Than Bombs" by the Smiths.) Lots of love, Miss Erin ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Fri Oct 30 03:22:20 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid Dossinger) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:22:20 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Why, I do declare... Message-ID: <363930EC.C0A84E18@bigfoot.com> For starters, I'm glad to be out of the goddamn car. And if there are parts of this message that don't make any sense, it's because the caffeine that got me from Athens back to Chapel Hill is wearing off. I hate it when it does that. Secondly, I'm feeling long-winded. If you want, you can skip the details of the phenomenal Athens show and get straight to the part about me and my friend Laurie embarrassing ourselves in front of the genius known as Stuart. Oh, the shame... Seeing as how exaustion is tapping on my shoulder, I'll spare you the Southern Americana I was going to write about the drive down and how glorious it was to be in Athens again. It's one of my absolute favorite places in the world, and the fact that not many people know of its greatness makes it that much more exciting to be there. I think the Belles and Sebastians of the world liked it too. Unless they spent all non-showtime on the bus. Which is possible...it's a very nice bus. Mr. Exaustion has taken a breather from tapping on my shoulder to tell me I'm an idiot for thinking I could come close to describing how fantastic the show was. So the description will end here: It was fantastic. I'm sure that not everyone was entirely happy with it, and I heard a few people grumbling coming out of the show. It seems that most people are very, very attached to encores. And granted, it was pretty nasty to leave the lights off for so long that even I was thinking, "Well, maybe..." But please! Is it really that important for a band to leave, dry the sweat off their forheads, talk about the cuties up front, prepare the syringes for the post-show and then come back on? Who's still impressed by that? Anyway, it was definitely a show geared for the hardcore fans, so people who only know Sinister and The Boy may have felt a little left out at times. The sound was PERFECT. After all the talk I'd heard about how quiet their shows are, I was expecting to have to stand on Laurie's shoulders and press my ear against the speaker. But it was crystal clear and exactly the right volume. Okay, okay...the general set list (which someone may have already submitted...I'm a digester). I know I have the first four and the last one right, and these are all the songs they played, but everything in the middle is not necessarily in the right order: Is It Wicked Not to Care? Simple Things A Century of Elvis Lord Anthony Ease Your Feet Into the Sea Mayfly The Boy With the Arab Strap Lazy Line Painter Jane Beautiful Belle and Sebastian Photo Jenny Seymour Stein Paper Boat Dirty Dream Number Two Highlight of the show? Easy: Lord Anthony. Everyone on the list was talking about it as though it was just another new song. Let me tell you for those of you who haven't heard it: It's incredible. I was speechless when it ended. How could one band be such a bottomless well of musical perfection? HOW, dammit?! I'm beginning to think that a "Murdoch sells soul to devil" rumor may well be in order. "Lord Anthony" is nothing musically groundbreaking (kind of a cross between Fakers and Modern Rock Song, I'd say), but it's also nothing short of amazing. Hello, I'm a goose and these are my bumps. The surprises for me were Mayfly, Belle and Sebastian, Photo Jenny and Beautiful. Mayfly was pretty faithful, Belle and Sebastian was an improvement (Richard's brushes sounded better than that John Bonham beat on the recording, although I know people who'd disagree) and Photo Jenny was slowed down a little bit, but sounded just as good. Stevie was hitting the tremolo chords so hard that he nearly fell over after the first chorus. Beautiful was...okay, I'll say it: It was beautiful. They didn't change it really, but the ending strings/trumpet bit sounded especially lush, and it was probably my favorite song of the night after Lord Anthony. Lazy Line Painter Jane was more like the session version, but it was faster (that's right: it was slower yet faster. It makes sense if you heard it). Unfortunately, they didn't do that little rave-up at the end like they did on the session version. You also need to know this: Simple Things rocked. Dirty Dream # 2 sounded great, but they changed the ending a bit. I wonder if the album ending just didn't sound right without the 144 piece international orchestra on it. We provided the handclaps for about 1:00 of The Boy With the Arab Strap, and one observant fan near me even was doing the handclaps at the end of Seymour Stein. Speaking of which, Stevie's voice sounded even better live than it does on the album, I think. Is it Wicked Not to Care was very faithful to the recorded version. Still, a good way to open the show. "Century of Elvis": Yeah, I was surprised that it was Elvis and not Fakers, too. But the weirdest thing is that, as far as I could tell, the vocal part was a tape. If it wasn't a tape, it was someone off the stage, since I saw all of the members on stage and none of their lips were moving. Ventriloquism? Most likely. Oh, and since the argument about "what is Elvis" is back up again, I should mention that the clarity of the sound at the 40 Watt allowed me to pick up the line "Elvis is a sack of doorknobs that belongs to Mick Cooke". I pretty sure about that... All eight of them were so fucking cute that I got severely star-struck. Stevie thanked the audience about ten times and every time he did it, it was more endearing. And I know that the bitter and nasty people of the world love to make fun of us for laughing at everything that Stuart M. says, but he really is funny. At one "I'm embarrased for America" point in the show, some guy tried to say something in a horrendous fake Scottish accent, and Stuart put him in his place: "Is that a bad joke or just a bad Scots accent?" We laughed at the mysterious man because he damn well deserved it. It was almost as embarrasing as the Pulp show in DC, when some girl ran around the balcony at the 9:30, waving a Union Jack and shouting, "Go English People!". Yes, I'm serious. Actually, that was a lot worse. Still, I hope for the Athens guy's sake that he was drunk. Because that beating that Mick gave him with the sack of doorknobs really would have hurt otherwise. Man, oh man is this long. I'm just glad I get to go see them again tomorrow night, and I pray I get to hear Slow Graffiti (I've listened to the 2:00 Liquid Audio sample about 30 times over already) and Sleep the Clock Around. And I hope I get to hear Lord Anthony just one more time for who knows how long. Here's the embarrassing story, which I'm reluctant to tell since it'll just be ammuntion for my Sinister enemies. But it entertained Laurie and me for hours, so you might have a laugh or two. That's right...I'll sacrifice my dignity for the possibility of entertainment. After the sparsely attended Engine Room meet-up (I blame myself and hereby resign the post in shame), Laurie and I hopped in the car, still on our post-show high. We stayed at the palatial Econo-lodge, and so we headed back to the room down Broad Street. This is a street that's not normally very populated at 2:30 am, so I was a little suprised to see a bundled-up couple walking away from town. As I passed by them, I looked at their faces and then took my foot off the gas. "Laurie, that was Stuart Murdoch and Isobel." Now, I'm prone to star-struckness anyway, but Laurie's even worse and in our post-show giddiness, we had both gotten the personalities of 14-year-olds clutching autograph books at a Hanson show. "Where are they walking at this time of night?" we wondered, which soon turned into (this is where it starts getting a little embarrassing) "Maybe they need a ride somewhere." Laurie commands me to turn around, which I do, partly out wanting to see them again, and partly because I know I'll get one of her patented "You'll kick yourself for passing up this opportunity" speeches if I don't. So we turn around (not easily, I might add) and head back in the other direction, pass them, turn around again and head towards them from behind. It was as the window started going down that I thought that maybe we shouldn't bother them. Too late. At least I thought enough to quickly tell Laurie to say their names so that they would at least know we were fans and not out to hurt them. "Stuart! Isobel!", she yells as we pull up beside them. "Do you want a ride?" The hard part here is trying to describe the looks on their faces. At no point did Isobel stop walking, and she looked either frightened or annoyed, most likely both. Stuart was all smiles, although it was impossible to tell if he was flattered or just if we were just being really entertainingly stupid. "We're just going to the Travelodge, actually," he said. Which made us feel even dumber, because at this point, we were about 50 feet away from the Travelodge. So Laurie quickly blurts out the main thing we wanted to tell them anyway: "Thank you so much for playing down here. It really means a lot to us". I stuck my head over and quickly yelled out a "Thank you", too, before we said goodnight to them and drove off wondering if/hoping that it was all a dream. And for one final blow, Laurie reminded me of the Pulp and Blur stickers onmy car, and so I had to get all paranoid and think that maybe they thought the only reason I like B&S is because they're British. Which has nothing to do with it. I love them because they move me to Heaven. Without breaking the glassware. This morning, as we drove into town to get coffee and sit outside and people-watch, we again saw Stuart, heading into town (wearing a t-shirt, which he's probably not used to being able to do in late October). We spent the rest of the day talking about how funny it would have been if we had pulled up to him again and asked if he had wanted a ride. If anyone on this list talks to Stuart or Isobel and they mention "two babbling fuckers in a car in Athens", that was me and Laurie. Tell them we're very sorry for bothering them. But what kind of a world are we living in when we can't stalk our heroes without embarrassment? Ooh, scratch that. Seriously, this awkward display of affection possibly cost me the opportunity to deliver an awkward "how much your music means to me" speech. Which would have been one for the record books after that show. Honestly, when you get right down to it though, it's really not that bad. The show was amazing and reduced Laurie and me to euphoria. Ladies and Gentlemen, we are all in on some of the most beautiful, most life-affirming, most incredible music ever made. We understand what baffles others. Pat yourself on the back. You know the secret to happiness. The world is gorgeous and so are you. Corn, cheese and sap, Reid, giddy Reid +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From IndiaRubb at xxx.com Fri Oct 30 03:31:26 1998 From: IndiaRubb at xxx.com (IndiaRubb at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:31:26 EST Subject: Sinister: Dirty Dream #2 tab Message-ID: <4d8e3382.3639330e@aol.com> Well, it may go on the page, it may not. So what? It's a landmine. Here goes...I might revisit this tab later. Dirty Dream Number Two Just chords. I didn't put it down, but at the end of each chorus, after the last A chord I think he does a chord like the one below...like D but pushing the high e string on the 7th fret as well. Not too sure about this. Or maybe it's some kind of m7 chord? Little help? e--7--- b--7--- G--7--- D--7--- A--5--- E----- INTRO: E A repeated Verse: E A E A I'm lucky, I can open the door and I can walk down the street E A C#m Unlucky, I've got nowhere to go and so I follow my feet Chorus: C#m A E B A choice is facing you, a healthy dose of pain C#m A E B A choice is facing you as you stare through the rain C#m A E B E A choice is facing you but I choose to refrain for today G#m A Tomorrow we'll be back in trouble again Dream one, you had a whole lot of fun with a comedian Stop short of going all the way, you'll have to make it someday Why is this happening to you, you're not a child? Why is this happening? You've too much on your mind Things creep up on you when you are fast asleep You are dreaming, you are sleepy You are stuck to the sheets INSTRUMENTAL: Repeat verse (E A E A E A C#m) In a town so small there's no escaping you In a town so small there's no escape from view In a town so small there's nothing left to do Intellectual and perspiring Dirty dream number two Dream two you couldn't see her face, but you saw everything else Dream two was pretty special, easily beats loving yourself Could you put a name to someone elses sigh? Could you put a face to someone elses eyes? Is it someone that you'd maybe recognise? But it all fades into morning when you open your eyes OUTRO: E A repeated Any corrections, etc. send mail to IndiaRubb at aol.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From IndiaRubb at xxx.com Fri Oct 30 03:40:00 1998 From: IndiaRubb at xxx.com (IndiaRubb at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:40:00 EST Subject: Sinister: Simple Things tab Message-ID: ditto. Simple Things I'm not 100% sure on the intro riff...if this isn't exact, it's pretty close, at least. Intro: e------------------------------ b----0-----2-----3-----2-3-2--- G------0-----0-----0---------2- D--------2-----2-----2--------- A------------------------------ E-(0)-------------------------- Em If you want me I'll be there G D A boy to deal with all your problems C G But part of the deal C G Is for you to feel something Em If you want me look me up G D I don't exist in usual places C G D Subtle as the wind is grey REPEAT INTRO RIFF (played over Em) Em G If you want me you know where I am D C I saw your arms in a dream G C And there were blue veins blue G Blue veins Em G If you want me all you have to do D Is ask a thousand questions C G Triplicate and file under B C G "Simple things you ask to make a young boy sigh" (Repeat C to G until last "young boy sigh," then...) C Em Young boy sigh (EADGbe) REPEAT INTRO RIFF...End on Em7--> 022030 any corrections, etc. send mail to IndiaRubb at aol.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nanettee at xxx.com Fri Oct 30 03:39:17 1998 From: Nanettee at xxx.com (Nanettee at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:39:17 EST Subject: Sinister: library music/an aside Message-ID: <44cbbbf7.363934e5@aol.com> In a message dated 10/29/98 8:21:01 PM, erinlew at hotmail.com wrote: >My brother is one of the head librarians at the >CSU Fresno Music Library (one of the largest music collections in >California - hoo-ha), and the library just got a big, fat grant to go >and buy new CDs. The best part is that I gave him a list of my >essential picks for his shopping list, and he's going to buy them. So >now, thanks to me, "If You're Feeling Sinister" will get its own catalog >number and place on a shelf in the library. that's cool. My mom's a librarian too, at a small library in the Chicago suburbs...they have a very eclectic music collection because she does the CD shopping. They own several Smiths albums (Morrissey too!), some Joy Division, and tons of other assorted indie stuff...she has to buy the popular music, but she always has me pick a few. The people in my town don't check it out very much, but a lot of it gets sent to other libraries for people to enjoy. (They're on a network with 50 or 60 other suburban libraries, and most of them don't have very large or eclectic CD collections.) I think Belle and Sebastian is a must for the next CD shopping trip. It would certainly add to the collection. I'm also going to recommend the purchase of Quasi's "Featuring 'Birds'" but I don't know if that will happen. Another amusing aside...I took a test in my grammar class and the professor mentioned the Smiths in one of the questions. I smiled a *bigbig* smile. After class, I asked him if he had ever heard of Belle and Sebastian...and he said no...so I'm making him a tape. I'll convert him yet. And I'd better get an A on that test for it. *smile* still brimming with happiness from monday's show-- nanette! **Visit No Idea, No Spark: Nanette's Online Journal** http://www.geocities.com/soho/workshop/7432/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From csomeone at xxx.com Fri Oct 30 04:05:14 1998 From: csomeone at xxx.com (Cynthia Someone) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:05:14 PST Subject: Sinister: Dr. Seldon 'Selly' Meap Message-ID: <19981030040514.13254.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello, i just wanted to introduce my teddy bear, Dr. Seldon Meap. He's a rocket scientist, but his secret wish is to be a fireman. he insisted that he be on the list as well as I, at least for the moment, as he loves belle and sebastian and would like to take them fishing. I like to call him Selly. So here he is: hullo ev'rybody. I just want to say that you make my Cynners very happy with your hullaballoo, and so I am very happy too. yes yes. (bats eyelashes, paws ground). Selly is very shy, and finds it difficult to type, having no movable digits. But really, there is a very warm and friendly smile on his face, for all of you. He also does this great dance, to simple things. It's something to see. Really. Bye bye. Selly and Cynthia ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DSchanding at xxx.com Fri Oct 30 04:22:56 1998 From: DSchanding at xxx.com (DSchanding at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 23:22:56 EST Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe Message-ID: <7b78430c.36393f20@aol.com> unsubscribe sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rmckay at xxx.edu Fri Oct 30 04:36:42 1998 From: rmckay at xxx.edu (baggy trousers) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 23:36:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: georgia on my mind and florida in my sights Message-ID: ---Reid Dossinger wrote: > > > For starters, I'm glad to be out of the goddamn car. And if there are i'll second that..almost 9 hours (we hit traffic once we got into tampa) and then another hour to go to a soccer game that my friend didnt even win! > fantastic the show was. So the description will end here: It was > fantastic. I'm sure that not everyone was entirely happy with it, and I > heard a few people grumbling coming out of the show. It seems that most > people are very, very attached to encores. it was a brilliantly gorgeous show indeed..as we were coming out of the club we heard one guy say that for driving 6 hours, he wasnt too thrilled with the song choices, 'too obscure and nothing from the second album'..i said that for an 8hr+ journey i was thrilled with the choices. > The sound was PERFECT. After all the talk I'd heard about how quiet > their shows are, I was expecting to have to stand on Laurie's shoulders > and press my ear against the speaker. But it was crystal clear and > exactly the right volume. the sound was good and i dont think that i have been to a show where it is THAT quiet during songs..generally you have someone who is always talking but you could almost hear a pin drop. we were over on the left towards the front and the sound was fantastic. > Okay, okay...the general set list (which someone may have already i think you about have it..i taped it (disclaimer: for my own pure enjoyment, not for any profit) so i would need to check..i realised halfway through 'is it wicked not to care' that i had the pause button on! so half of it isnt there..it came out not too shabby but i need to learbn to shut my mouth a wee bit more and keep my comments to myself. > Highlight of the show? Easy: Lord Anthony. Everyone on the list was > talking about it as though it was just another new song. Let me tell > you for those of you who haven't heard it: It's incredible. I was i didnt think that i would get into this song so much since i wasnt too familiar with it but it was so very...very. probably the highlight for me as well....the highlight of the evening though was seeing someone i know find it so very exciting that we saw isobel in the bus blowing her nose just outside of the washroom :) > "Century of Elvis": Yeah, I was surprised that it was Elvis and not > Fakers, too. But the weirdest thing is that, as far as I could tell, > the vocal part was a tape. If it wasn't a tape, it was someone off the > stage, since I saw all of the members on stage and none of their lips > were moving. Ventriloquism? Most likely. Oh, and since the argument > about "what is Elvis" is back up again, I should mention that the > clarity of the sound at the 40 Watt allowed me to pick up the line > "Elvis is a sack of doorknobs that belongs to Mick Cooke". I pretty > sure about that... i was a bit let down that it wasnt a century of fakers but i just thought it rather amusing that as soon as the voice started you saw all these necks strain to see where exactly the voice was coming from. > on our post-show high. We stayed at the palatial Econo-lodge, and so we > headed back to the room down Broad Street. This is a street that's not oh so very palatial...maybe your room was better than ours..the wallpaper was peeling and the washroom door didnt shut properly..plus the walls were a bit thin..you didnt happen to be staying in room #208 and had a knock on your door at some time in the early morning from someone telling you that they could hear you next door, did you? if so..that was me, pleased to meet you. i wouldnt have minded had we not had to leave early to get back for the damned soccer match. umm...i enjoyed myself immensely on this little excursion and i thought it well worth the time/money/lack of sleep to go..i do it again in a heartbeat.. roberta **oh you look so tired + "Rock'n'roll is the most brutal, mouth slack and wide + ugly, vicious form of expression - ill-housed and ill-advised + sly, lewd, in fact plain dirty..a your face is as mean as + rancid-smelling aphrodisiac..the your life has been + martial music of every delinquent crash into my arms + on the face of the earth..." i want you****** + -'jack the ripper' (morrissey) + -Frank Sinatra 1957 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carrick44 at xxx.com Fri Oct 30 06:02:27 1998 From: carrick44 at xxx.com (Carrick C Blair) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 01:02:27 EST Subject: Sinister: Catharsis Message-ID: <19981030.001822.4591.5.carrick44@juno.com> Good Evening/Morning, I thought it might be fun if I was the first person to report on the Athens show. Seeing how I wasn't there and in fact miles away. But, alas, Reid beat me to it,(and now someone else)with possibly the longest post in history. Great story though. I almost felt as if I was there myself. Anyway, a certain someone sent me an email early yesterday morning.... >My dear Carrick, >I'm at my friend Natalies' and we just returned from the Belle and >Sebastian show in Athens. Very cathartic music, definitely getting >the cd. So, I did end up going, the show didn't even start until >11:00, so I got to go to my meeting and go to the show. We looked >for your friend, but didn't end up meeting. There was a big crowd >there..... My friend went to the show on my recommendation. Yet another convert. I have to go look up "cathartic" now... Wait that could be taken a couple different ways. But lets keep this on the up and up and say that she meant this... "a purifying or cleansing of the emotions...the relief of tension and anxiety by bringing repressed feelings and fears to consciousness" or I guess you could just say that she found it to be a mental laxative. On more of a Sinister topic....while in Boston, I was looking at my friends newly aquired Blueboy CD and noticed in the Thank Yous, an . Could this be our very own Oon from the Far East? Quite a swank bunch we got here. A long time ago Keith said.... Carrick, your Roger Daltrey hair goes down very well with me, and I expect Mr.Miller too, being great WHO fans as we said for several months on end boring everyone to tears. Is your hair the 70's incarnation of Roger Daltrey? After a taking a close look at some of Roger Daltrey's solo albums, particurly the one where he has morphed the lower part of his body into that of a horse (some mythological creature that I'm to lazy to remember), I've come to realize that I've misled you all with my claims of having Roger Daltrey's hair. I'm afraind it's closer to to Chris Hillman's hair circa the third Flying Burittos Brothers album. And I'm also afraid to report that I had a good chunk of it cut off today. Oh well, It'll grow back. I certainly hope it does. I'm getting old. (Teachers liking the Smiths?) Thinking of Chris Hillman...leads me to Gene Clark, with a wonderful new double CD out, which reminds me of the Field Mice double CD that I bought the same day, which upon closer inspection I realized that the Field Mice were in existence the exact four years that I spent in high school. That somehow makes it all that much more special. Its time for dreams.... Carrick _______________________________ ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dagrayson at xxx.edu Fri Oct 30 06:33:13 1998 From: dagrayson at xxx.edu (~Dana~) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 01:33:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: sinister: cliche Message-ID: okay, I am about to share with you the ridiculously silly cliche my life seems to have become. well, im exaggarating, but whatever. i finally sat myself down and read the lyrics along to sinister, and the album has become a fixture to my stereo. i know, i know, you all probably did that like 5 years ago, and you are like, "duh." but, as a fairly new fan, i thought i'd have to share my newfound love for this band. as for the cliche, i was referring to 'seeing other people,' and how disgustingly empathetic i am to that song. digustingly is the wrong word i guess. more like...well, i cant really think of a term. i guess thats the point. anyhow, i am pretty new to this list, my name is dana, im from ny, and i go to school upstate in the cultural black hole of Poughkeepsie. i am returning to my room now... bye : ) dana +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Fri Oct 30 06:31:49 1998 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 23:31:49 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Chicago Message-ID: Hello to all windy listees, Thanks for the reviews, but sod Belle and Sebastian, what was Momus like? Mail me privately as I'm sure that not everyone on list realises what a genius he is. Kevan The Fat Slug Honey's full of good intentions Keith is into rock'n'roll Peter Miller is a serial killer But at least he is a killer with soul *********************************** chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickclick.com http://www.chickmail.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From plumb at xxx.com Fri Oct 30 08:54:35 1998 From: plumb at xxx.com (plumb at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 03:54:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: raygun Message-ID: <981030035435EA.13340@web05> hello. i'm guessing this is past overdue and that it has been mentioned already, but there's a B&S article in raygun magazine. nothing new, but raygun's a pretty good mag. janyt. ----------------------------------------------- Get your free email at http://www.alloymail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mpc at xxx.au Sat Oct 31 04:43:36 1998 From: mpc at xxx.au (MPC) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 20:43:36 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk request #32,001,457 References: Message-ID: <363A9578.4420@alphalink.com.au> Hi Sinisterines, This is my first post to the list despite the fact that i've been lurking for nigh on a year now. Yikes! (I'm usually too many messages behind to post anything relevent). Anyhow, i've been meaning to ask through most of this period whether anyone would be willing to make me a tape (for private home use pending the re-release, of course ;) ) of Tigermilk plus the various radio session tracks. Somehow i never got around to asking!!! Any kind soul willing to help would naturally be handsomely rewarded for their efforts... Thanks for your time, Marc, shy bunny who still knows not the joy the 'milk can bring. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From WarranderJ at xxx.uk Fri Oct 30 09:32:00 1998 From: WarranderJ at xxx.uk (Warrander John - FML) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:32:00 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The Winner Takes It Up The Bum Message-ID: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B0042619F@gateway.finnigan.co.uk> Hello everybody, Bloody hell my head hurts today. That's cos I'm a winner and spend all my evenings dancing with pop stars. I even entered a twist competition last night. A bit like that scene in Pulp Fiction with John and Uma except I didn't win and er, Uma was Mandy. But Mandy was a pop star and had been on top of the pops and had even toured in Spain, which is a particularly good source of Columbia's finest export by all accounts. Does this go some way to explaining the sinister concept we know as "PJMiller"? Well it does for me and speaking of drugs, didn't someone say they thought the Field Mice were a cross between B&S and The Stone Roses? I congratulate this person. They're obviously on drugs and in case you didn't know drugs are big and clever. Especially nurofen, which at this moment I'd say doesn't do much for me. But I have high hopes. Has anyone else noticed Peter Miller's apparently innocent introduction of all things bum into the conversation? His latest being "up the bum sex" which I highly recommend. Not with Miller though. By his own claim he has a whopping chopper and I suspect that wouldn't do the old hemorrhoids any good. Little Tag however... Are any of you soft southern jessies going to the Wild Weekend goings on in London town this weekend? I am and I'm going to have up the bum sex with a London girl too. So there. I'd suggest having a meet up but I'm a really horrible person and I wouldn't want to scare you so maybe not. I'm looking forward to seeing The Thanes most of all. When they played Aberdeen in 1989, Lenny Helsing turned up for the show with some sandwiches his mum had made him. Isn't that sweet. Even Murdoch isn't that much of a sap. But I've got to go and throw up now. Then I'm going to a dead rough pub to buy two giant bars of chocolate for a pound from a local ruffian. I'm going to eat some chips too. Love, peace and kindness to you all, John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Oct 30 10:22:39 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:22:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Friday Freak Out! Message-ID: <01be03ef$39539a80$LocalHost@itjfvkli> First of all, a big thank you to Reid for taking the time to write that monster message. It gave me quite a hearty chuckle, and enabled me to continue my virtual stalking of Mad Dog Murdoch. I really should start writing this stuff down. It'll make things much easier when I settle down to compile my Beatles-style Belle and Sebastian Rock'n'Roll Diary. OCTOBER 29 1998: Isobel blew her nose outside the tour bus lavatory, and was later accosted by two fans in a car, who reminded her a bit of that wierdo in Silence of the Lambs. She should've hopped in, Debbie Harry's got plenty of mileage from her Al Bundy story. Down to business. After trying all night to wallpaper my room with the sound of The Skatalites, at around half past six this morning I was visited by the spectre of Stuart Murdoch, a vision, if you will. he asked if he could stay awhile and I said that yes he could if he wanted to, and explained what I was trying to do. He seemd intersted, but was pale and unsteady, as ghosts so often are. He then decided to teach me the words to his new song "Oh! Lord Anthony". The Skatalites joined in from the odd places where the wallpaer had actually stuck. Here are the words: T-4-2, I love you, You're a very special robot, You can walk, You can talk, You can tell me lovely stories, You can sing, You can PLAAAAAAAAAY! You can do what I say, You're a very special robot, You're my friend. According to Stuart, the band's wierd watermelons section would be employed in the production of R2D2 noises throughout the song, something The Skatalites couldn't quite capture. But Stuart and the resurrected Don Drummond got on like a house on hotcakes. Christopher Leonard, you promised us a full gibbering of the String Band shindig today. Don't think I haven't been looking forward to it, becasuse I have. Duke's book is still good, even though he slags off Hawkwind. I believe Yul Brynner has commandeered Ooon's computer again, so she might not be able to answer. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Arigreen23 at xxx.com Fri Oct 30 11:25:24 1998 From: Arigreen23 at xxx.com (Arigreen23 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 06:25:24 EST Subject: Sinister: b & s in rolling stone Message-ID: <31403608.3639a224@aol.com> If you look in this month's issue of rolling stone, B & S are under Duncan Sheik's ( I think's) raves for the month. There's a little blurb about them. ari +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From his8jm at xxx.UK Fri Oct 30 12:24:28 1998 From: his8jm at xxx.UK (J. MURTAGH) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:24:28 GMT Subject: Sinister: Charlotte Hall In-Reply-To: <199810281309.NAA08299@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <199810301225.MAA19207@mps1.leeds.ac.uk> Hey everyone, just thought I'd find out if any of us are gonna meet up in London sometime? I'm form Burnt Oak but I'm currently in Leeds University so I should be back by Dec 11. I thought of some ideas everyone could do . . . go on a mad film fest, seeing 4 films in a day at Leicester Square or perhaps somewhere more independent. I'm currently doing a script which has some major songs in there from Belle and Sebastian, Fox in the Snow. It's not very good at the moment as it's only in its third draft but I think it's gonna be called "Back of Hand", some devotional stuff to weltering. God, does anyone have any strange remenisces of the Union Chapel gigg? Were you there? sound like a producer advertising now I'm happy to say that it was my first and only gigg but it took me ages to find it as everyone I asked didn't know where it was, not amused to find it was right there in bloody front of me to the right of the station and I eventually got there 15 minutes before the set started. Also I saw these 3 Indie girls on the train sitting opposite me and I had a feeling they were going to the gigg but I didn't ask them, they knew I was going I think. Then they sort of followed me left out of the station, yeh like I knew where I was going! I sort of lost them and I just wondered if they ever got there fotr the gigg, anyone know them? I think they were from Manchester or somink. Didn't see Jarvis there although plenty of trendies as Jo Whiley and Steve Lamacq were advertising the hot gigg on their shows. O.k that's my memory of the BELEE SEBEE. I hope you had real good time all of you Yanks who went to their giggs, yes their set is short I suppose but then they are not like any other band, in fact band doesn't give them the right profile, I prefer to call them a group of musicians, fine arting in the melodious, melifluous end of the music train. Bye John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From his8jm at xxx.UK Fri Oct 30 12:41:12 1998 From: his8jm at xxx.UK (J. MURTAGH) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:41:12 GMT Subject: Sinister: WOW MAN In-Reply-To: <199810270024.AAA06472@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <199810301241.MAA14112@mps3.leeds.ac.uk> I CAN'T BELIEVE SARAH ACTUALLY WROTE A LETTER TO THIS MAILING LIST! HOW COOL IS THAT? ER SARAH WE HAFTA SORT OUT CONTRACTUAL STUFF I'MDOING A FILM ABOUT SCOTTISH BIRDS WHO CAN'T SPELL, IT'S A CROSS BETWEEN TRAINSPOTTING AND ANY OTHER MODERN BRITISH FILM WITH A HALF DECENT SOUNDTRACK ON IT. . . . . . . ER HELLO? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From coool_air at xxx.com Fri Oct 30 13:34:04 1998 From: coool_air at xxx.com (Claire Timmins) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 05:34:04 PST Subject: Sinister: I hate having to do this but... Message-ID: <19981030133404.16537.qmail@hotmail.com> I have to say goodbye, my year long flirtation with hundreds of strangers has to end. This Halloween brings the end of my full-time education career. The M.Phil thesis is finished and so am I. Full time bar work from now on. I only joined this list when I moved from Glasgow to Dublin, as I didn't know anyone and I had some connections with B&S. Here's my secret claim to fame folks, I used to live with the young lad Murdoch in a bed-sit on Hillhead st. just before B&S were created. I have thoroughly enjoyed being involved although I haven't had the chance to meet up with anyone, !!!! NB all Dubliners we should still organise a meet up, and when I return to Scotland meet some of you guys there. I willl still be communicable through this address but I can't stay on the list considering the size of it. And I will still be involved in the Tape tree, Andre, keep sending them on boy! I may only convert to the digest, but my days will no doubt be empty without the hour long haul through the hundred messages that appear. Thank you all, and I apologise again for starting the Edinburgh indie club thread a while back. To my Northern soul teachers, thank you for your help. Cheers Martin for Tigermilk and to everyone else for sharing my love of music and absolute insane chatter. Oh and my list crush just had to be Mr K.Watson. Bye my friends, I love you all, Claire, unsubsc...... ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ETLRDHY at xxx.se Fri Oct 30 14:42:28 1998 From: ETLRDHY at xxx.se (ETLRDHY at xxx.se) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:42:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: A bit of a Mess in the Leek and Winkle..... Message-ID: <002566AD.004F78D9.00@notes.ericsson.se> Dear You guys, Hello. I was in the Leek and Winkle last night. I went to Macdonalds on the way and had a LARGE 1/ 4 with cheese meal WITH an extra cheeseburger on the side. I think some of uncle Justin's waccy baccy had a part in my strangely large appetite. God I was in a bit of a mess. I was the one ranting on about how everyone should try and write one lyric poem per day. Just in case anyone was there I'M SORRY if I invaded your personal zone with my drunken bleatings. What's everyone doing tonight? I think it should be a regular feature of the list that everyone mails in their Friday night itinery. Thus it would give us all an insight into the outside lives of other listees and provide us all with a chance to 'bump' into each other. I'm quite aware of the fact this makes me out to be a bit of a scary stalker but hey we're all using e-mail which tacitly implies weirdoness. Anyway Tonight I will be going to Alley Cats for the Happy hour before staggering off to The Beach, the club not the thing attached to the sea. I'll be wearing one of those really rare (honest guv) German athletic tops and I've got blonde hair in a bit of a mod/Stephen Pastel fusion. If any one finds me in Brighton my friend Alex will buy you a present......... Regards Richardxxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Fri Oct 30 15:06:00 1998 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (James M Errington) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:06:00 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Sleep the clock around Message-ID: <199810301500.PAA04818@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 1845 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Dorigen.Horlivy at xxx.com Fri Oct 30 15:14:06 1998 From: Dorigen.Horlivy at xxx.com (Horlivy, Dorigen) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:14:06 -0000 Subject: Sinister: HALLOWEEN Message-ID: <19671EA2F1A6D011AA5100609731D18201E862A9@ank13s.ibd.gs.com> Bonjour mes enfants,   I just want everyone to know that I love Halloween.  When New York is in costume and drunk, you never know what is going to happen and that is just a beautiful thing.  Especially for someone who just realized she is wearing two different shoes at work today.  I thought something was a bit off this morning... er. So here is a message to the boy with whom I am competing for the B&S ticket.  I'm going to get it buddy, oh yes I am. You should fear any woman lacking the sense to look at her shoes before putting them on.  I'm CRAZY.  HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!   Dorigen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From l.r.beattie at xxx.uk Fri Oct 30 16:03:52 1998 From: l.r.beattie at xxx.uk (Lennox Beattie) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 16:03:52 GMT Subject: Sinister: (Afternoon) Soaps Message-ID: Although it not entirely about B&S i just thought i'd rave about the new Arab Strap single which i bought yesterday its a real return to form. Its more like the 1st album than Philophobia which i've got to admit wasn't really taken with. This is more lyrically dense and less kind of trainspotting pastiche. The remind of all musical version of any of Gordon Legge's writing although a little more weegie and bitter Lennox +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From laurel_girvan at xxx.com Fri Oct 30 16:33:42 1998 From: laurel_girvan at xxx.com (Laurel Girvan) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 98 11:33:42 -0500 Subject: Sinister: satanism earrings Message-ID: <9810309097.AA909765276@hholt.com> in the spirit of resurrecting old list jokes (John Johnston's military rip-off of Live the Songs -- dont' get me wrong, i nearly wet my pants), here are some especially significant anagrams for you all to enjoy: THE MORSE CODE = HERE COME DOTS UNITED STATES HISTORY = DATES UNITE THIS STORY HIBERNATES = THE BEAR'S IN THE COUNTRYSIDE = NO CITY DUST HERE ASTRONOMERS = MOON STARERS THE PUBLIC ART GALLERIES = LARGE PICTURE HALLS, I BET A STICK OF CHEWING GUM = THINGS OF MAGIC WE SUCK there, wasn't that refreshing? --raving allure +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Fri Oct 30 16:39:40 1998 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksandaJill) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:39:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Essay: Why I'm Glad B&S are Successful Message-ID: <199810301639.LAA56862@dept.english.upenn.edu> Generally, I like that they're successful because for once (in a while it seems) they genuinely deserve it. I don't mean because they're nice people (who knows really, I don't) but because the songs are great, the lyrics are great, the music itself is praiseworthy. For once this "pop" music lives up to its etymological roots, 'cause B&S are pretty popular, even straining at the restraints of the "cult hero" label. And that is kind of strange. For me, listening to indiepop for a while makes you think "This stuff could be go over really well with a lot of people" because they're catchy, great melodies, lyrics, whatever. But for some reason or another they fade into obscurity known only to you. Now all of a sudden a band that should be popular is, and that's great. Couldn't have happened to a better band, as they already have proven they've got legs. Still vaunted and have lived up to the hype (while also trying to avoid it, but there's only so much they can do), they've proven that you don't have to be all-out electronic, look back to the early '90s (!) for that good ol' grungy angst (Eve 6 anyone?? Creed???), you don't have to be louder than fuck, you don't have to appeal to the lowest common denominator, you don't have to have a slickly-produced record (B&S stuff is some of the least-compressed sounding stuff I've heard, but it's not muddy or lo-fi neither), you don't have to be mediocre Lilith Fair fare and you don't have to rap to make an impact these days. Whew. Who knows though, there may be some acts out there who could sound like B&S if they didn't have annoying over-the-top voices, if they didn't have awful pretentious lyrics, if they didn't have huge drums, if they didn't the delivery period. And maybe B&S would suck if they had one of these elements. But they don't. I'd hate to think it was contrived or anything but I'm just glad they have a handle on things and haven't gone all sucky. Pardon my eloquence! So basically what I'm saying is, B&S have bucked a lot of trends and started one themselves, which is pretty neat. Now watch for a crop of ten- to twelve piece bands who used to be into swing doing delicate fragile folk-pop and watch the record companies drool (or am I being too cynical here?).:) Oh, great cover art too. Stuff you can put on your wall without looking like a teenybopper (who needs the artists themselves on the cover anyway, eh Morrissey?). Anyway, I'm bored! Can you tell. Xavier -- BXK "It's recess everywhere bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu but in his heart." http://www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 --Ralph Wiggum X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Fri Oct 30 16:48:18 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 16:48:18 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: Friday frolics In-Reply-To: <002566AD.004F78D9.00@notes.ericsson.se> Message-ID: 2 options for my friday night activity. i was going to get you all to vote but i guess it's a bit late. 1/ don fishnet tights and some absurd skimpy black creation and go to a punch party at a friend's, followed by a halloween club night at the university. drink lots, dance badly, ladder said tights, have little sleep. 2/ obey my body which is complaining loudly after a night of sin and near sleeplessness, and go to bed early. tricky. no doubt you'll know which i finally chose because if 1/ my next post will be incoherent rubbish. oh, wait a minute.... luv archangel xxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Dorigen.Horlivy at xxx.com Fri Oct 30 17:00:07 1998 From: Dorigen.Horlivy at xxx.com (Horlivy, Dorigen) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 02:00:07 +0900 Subject: Sinister: New York Kiddies... Message-ID: <19671EA2F1A6D011AA5100609731D18201E862AF@ank13s.ibd.gs.com> Hi all you New Yorkers... Speaking of Halloween, who of you all are out and about this weekend? I for one will be at the parade in the village. I will be dressed as Hanson with two men. I will be the girl. 'Zack' Hanson, if you will. Give me a shout out. I will be seriously inebriated and am likely to give you a hug. Dorigen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Fri Oct 30 17:09:34 1998 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksandaJill) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:09:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Ideas for Cheap Halloween Costumes Message-ID: <199810301709.MAA55938@dept.english.upenn.edu> This is what I was thinking, 'cause as usual, I prepared too late for Halloween and am left wondering what to do. I can really only use the clothes that I myself own... a) James Bond. I have a tuxedo (black natch) and a plastic replica of a Magnum gun, but I used this last year. Also my cigarette holder (telescopes to 3') is a nice touch but it means I have to smoke. Gets in the way of my new fitness kick (more a mental one than physical at this point). b) Morrissey. This is easy, some pomade for the hair, my Malcolm X/Buddy Holly glasses, gaudy beads round the neck, some kind of long sleeve button-up shirt. Flowers in the back pocket. c) Pimp. I have a few leisure suits and platform shoes. But no big hat w/ feather...or mink stole for that matter. This is the classic costume to fall back on. d) Cardboard box. Semi-desperate but...well, maybe it's all desperate. Who knows. Anyone else have ideas? I can't go as my evil twin, that would be just too lame. Xavier -- BXK "It's recess everywhere bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu but in his heart." http://www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 --Ralph Wiggum X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atieger at xxx.com Fri Oct 30 17:05:15 1998 From: atieger at xxx.com (aaron tieger) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:05:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: post-show malaise disguised as art Message-ID: <19981030170515.8087.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> My roommate told me I should post this to the list. Sorry if it's a bit long. "Hardly Getting Over It" The clouds rolled darkly across the black night sky as Jenna trudged homeward through the cold Cambridge streets. The last strains of the band she'd just seen showed no signs of fading from her ears, and she rued the picture in her head of her bedside table: next to her diary and her driver's license lay three sets of earplugs. It was hard to say which bothered her more, for while the lack of earplugs meant that her head would still be ringing in the morning, the fact that she'd forgotten her ID had meant that she'd had to cadge a few drinks off various members of the audience: cadaverous indie-rock geeks who spent more time checking out the guitar player's gear than the gaggle of girls who tried in vain to catch an eye-- anyone's eye. The result of all her haggling was that she was now barely drunk at all, and would be completely sober by the time she walked the two miles back to the house she was staying in, and so the vague emptiness she was just starting to feel would almost definitely deepen before she went to bed, and would probably linger throughout the following day, which was Sunday, which was bad enough without having to add further reason to mope. The pale blue-green of her wristwatch told her it was 1:45, and she still had about thirty minutes of walking ahead of her. Her bobed and dyed black hair fell about her face as she hung her head and thought that after so many shows over the summer at the Middle East, she should've learned by now not to get seperated from her friends who drove. She passed some bars, which were just beginning to empty out for the night, and some shops and cafes, all of which had long been closed. Neon remained on, and the eerie glow the signs cast made Jenna feel especially surreal as she regarded herself with passing glances in windows. She sometimes wondered what the point was in the dyed hair, combat boots, and thrift-store dresses. She told herself it was identity thing, that she dressed like everyone else in order to feel that she belonged to something reater than a fantasy world; she told herself it was economical; she told herself the boys liked it. She told herself many things, many times, and often she believed some of them. Eventually she found her way through Harvard Square, past the sealed-up entrance to the Red Line (devoid at this hour of the crusty punks she would look on with a vague nostalgia), and out Mt. Auburn Street to the house she was spending the month looking after. Upstairs the answering machine followed her weary movements with an unwavering red eye; the clothes she'd rejected earlier in the night still littered the bed; and the window was wide open, letting the breeze she'd just left, the breeze of a loud, lonely Saturday night at the end of an unusually cold September. Christ, it was a little longer than I thought it was. Anyway, now I'm off to work. aaron === atieger at rocketmail.com auger/anvil "Strike another match, go start anew and it's all over now, baby blue." --Bob Dylan _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail, free e-mail for the planet. * Visit & explore Cybersmith at http://www.cybersmith.com * Get your web-based e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From csomeone at xxx.com Fri Oct 30 17:28:32 1998 From: csomeone at xxx.com (Cynthia Someone) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:28:32 PST Subject: Sinister: B&S and radioplay Message-ID: <19981030172832.8068.qmail@hotmail.com> My friend Camille was talking about how songs get radio play, and what they do is they let people listen to stuff, and rate it from 1 to 5. everything that gets rated 1,2, or 5 gets chucked. Which is very strange, you would think 5's would get played, but I suppose 5's are too personal, as in there is no lowest common denominator. 3's and 4's are like, easy on the ears, they don't stand out. Just plain old mediocre. Strange, yeah? Cynthia ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 70204923 at xxx.ca Fri Oct 30 17:30:27 1998 From: 70204923 at xxx.ca (Sebastian) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:30:27 EST Subject: Sinister: Raygun magazine Message-ID: <22E5F885163@cs5.conestogac.on.ca> i hate that flippin mag coz they jazz it up with so much BS fonts and designs, you cant read it... something like this *9437$#^%!@&@#^#(i hate*&%04308-502-= raygun*(&5428383478940-40-83297398937542754--3039i 87749889(*&*(*REALl00000657238921y do. raygun bites. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From barzy at xxx.com Fri Oct 30 18:03:51 1998 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 10:03:51 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Raygun magazine Message-ID: >i hate that flippin mag coz they jazz it up with so much BS fonts and >designs, you cant read it... > >something like this *9437$#^%!@&@#^#(i hate*&%04308-502-= >raygun*(&5428383478940-40-83297398937542754--3039i >87749889(*&*(*REALl00000657238921y do. > > >raygun bites. I agree it was quite hard to read (at one time), Bikini as well..but a close friend of mine (who's also on the list) works at Raygun and kicked down the last one with the B&S write up in it, and it was quite nice.... and not hard to read at all.. unless you're at stage 2 of hooked on Phonics, then it might be a tad hard...i'd try it at stage 5 though...it looked nice. beth +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 70204923 at xxx.ca Fri Oct 30 18:21:48 1998 From: 70204923 at xxx.ca (Sebastian) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 13:21:48 EST Subject: Sinister: Raygun, Poor Beth Message-ID: <22F3B0742FF@cs5.conestogac.on.ca> Beth Beth Beth... Making snide reading remarks to journalism students is pissing in the wind. URINE deep, now, girl. Raygun? Shya. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Gareth at xxx.uk Thu Oct 29 18:39:12 1998 From: Gareth at xxx.uk (Gareth Probert) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:39:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Friday Night Activities Message-ID: <3638B650.DD7E693F@probert-edi.compulink.co.uk> Hello there Seeing as Richard wondered what everybody is doing on a friday night... This will probably only be of any consequence to people that live in Derby or the immeadiate surrounding area, unless you are just plain interested. I will be leaping on the 8:00 bus into town, tumbling into The Vaults, and sitting there in the corner quietly drinking with my hair draping down over my eyes. heh heh. I will probably there all evening, occasionaly getting up to put some songs on the dukebox. Of course, all of the above will be completely impossible if I don't get the $#!?%&* work I have to do out of the way in the next hour. Hmmmmmmm..... I suppose I had better get my head down... Bye Gareth +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paula at xxx.uk Fri Oct 30 19:15:33 1998 From: paula at xxx.uk (paula wiseman) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 19:15:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Air in London Message-ID: <363A1054.CA24C723@hannoncom.prestel.co.uk> Is anyone going to the Air gig on Sunday? Paula xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From R.Mourik at xxx.nl Fri Oct 30 19:26:01 1998 From: R.Mourik at xxx.nl (R.Mourik) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 20:26:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: (no subject) Message-ID: <363A12C8.1C5B7F56@cable.A2000.nl> unsubscribe sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kellym at xxx.com Fri Oct 30 19:24:12 1998 From: kellym at xxx.com (Kelly McGuire) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:24:12 -0800 Subject: Sinister: friday night plans Message-ID: <199810301927.LAA28051@macbeth.ienet.com> welp, i'm off to see the new york shows here in a few hours and thought i'd post real quick. i will be spending my lovely friday evening on a big airplane riding from california (cal-if-or-n-i-a) to new york. No beech trees or ice skating for me tonight. Let's just hope the inflight movie won't make me vomit, or better yet, the nyquil does its job and puts me to sleep for the duration of the flight. so anyway, after i arrive in new york (1:10am! arg) I am taking a big yellow taxi to meet my friends at the grammercy park hotel. wacky escapades will ensue. welp, that's all for now. i'm off to spend the next four days running around pretending i'm in an indierock video. -kelly mcguire kellym at raygun.com p.s.- raygun sucks?! well, yeah... so? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From goon_koch at xxx.com Fri Oct 30 19:35:06 1998 From: goon_koch at xxx.com (Goon Koch) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:35:06 PST Subject: Sinister: Raygun magazine Message-ID: <19981030193507.173.qmail@hotmail.com> i think raygun is gorgeous. if you've got more than a passing interest in typography (shoutout to g. ballance at the cooper union's herb lubalin center) you've got to love what they do. well, at least it was groundbreaking five years ago. that said, it can drive you mad if you're actually trying to read the articles. what gets me is when they have white text superimposed on an image and whole sections of the article have no contrast so you can't read the type. it doesn't help any that the copy is already in an unreadable font. somebody should be slapped around for that. hard. with a rolled up copy of last sunday's new york times. but the magazine is gorgeous. at least it was before they had oasis on the cover and lost me as a reader. er, i mean, visual appreciator. but i'd rather have a gorgeous, original magazine that i can't read than read crap. and who relies on music magazines for literary sustenance in the first place? after persevering in admirable fashion, my philadelphia daisies have taken a turn for the worse. a fresh bouquet will adorn my backpack at the new york show. for halloween i will drag out my old fishing gear. xtra-tuf boots, orange pvc pants and jacket, neoprene wristers, serrated victorinox knife, nylon baseball cap with jellyfish stains. after five years it still smells like salmon and brings back vivid memories of standing up to my armpits in catch in the hold and having the first mate on his belly beside me, toking on a beercan bong because he didn't want to share with the skipper. this is perfect costume for even the most animated party (it's also great for romping about manhattan in a violent storm, but that's another story). beer spills and vomitus hose right off, the suit is easily removed in the event of romance and it does not involve any messy make up. also, this is not a subtle costume, so i don't have to deal with annoying "what are you s'posed to be" questions. a guy in smelly, orange, waterproof getup is not easily confused with a goblin, troll or leprechaun. greetings to the austrian list member. i'm kind of an austrian emigre. "land der berge, land am strome . . ." happy halloween, friends. drive safely. -goon k.- ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From igh1 at xxx.uk Fri Oct 30 19:46:34 1998 From: igh1 at xxx.uk (Ian Hatcher) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 19:46:34 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sinister: Ideas for Cheap Halloween Costumes In-Reply-To: <199810301709.MAA55938@dept.english.upenn.edu> Message-ID: Dear Lardarse Yank, Thou clearly hath too much time on thine hands. I suggest you follow the normal Yank course of action and have a wank, you fucking pwick. Robert Fis On Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:09:34 -0500 (EST) FourJacksandaJill wrote: > > This is what I was thinking, 'cause as usual, I prepared too late for > Halloween and am left wondering what to do. I can really only use the > clothes that I myself own... > > a) James Bond. I have a tuxedo (black natch) and a plastic replica of a > Magnum gun, but I used this last year. Also my cigarette holder > (telescopes to 3') is a nice touch but it means I have to smoke. Gets in > the way of my new fitness kick (more a mental one than physical at this > point). > > b) Morrissey. This is easy, some pomade for the hair, my Malcolm X/Buddy > Holly glasses, gaudy beads round the neck, some kind of long sleeve > button-up shirt. Flowers in the back pocket. > > c) Pimp. I have a few leisure suits and platform shoes. But no big hat > w/ feather...or mink stole for that matter. This is the classic costume > to fall back on. > > d) Cardboard box. Semi-desperate but...well, maybe it's all desperate. > Who knows. > > Anyone else have ideas? I can't go as my evil twin, that would be just > too lame. > > Xavier > -- > BXK "It's recess everywhere > bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu but in his heart." > http://www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 --Ralph Wiggum > X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------------------- Ian Hatcher igh1 at ukc.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From igh1 at xxx.uk Fri Oct 30 19:49:23 1998 From: igh1 at xxx.uk (Ian Hatcher) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 19:49:23 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sinister: New York Kiddies... In-Reply-To: <19671EA2F1A6D011AA5100609731D18201E862AF@ank13s.ibd.gs.com> Message-ID: Urgh! Your a fucking Yank. This means you have a fat arse. If you hugged me, I'd be forced to kick the shite out of you, you fucking illiterate spawn of the Irish. Pete On Sat, 31 Oct 1998 02:00:07 +0900 "Horlivy, Dorigen" wrote: > > Hi all you New Yorkers... > Speaking of Halloween, who of you all are out and about this weekend? > I for one will be at the parade in the village. > I will be dressed as Hanson with two men. I will be the girl. 'Zack' > Hanson, > if you will. Give me a shout out. I will be seriously inebriated and am > likely to give you a hug. > > Dorigen > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------------------- Ian Hatcher igh1 at ukc.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From igh1 at xxx.uk Fri Oct 30 19:52:05 1998 From: igh1 at xxx.uk (Ian Hatcher) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 19:52:05 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sinister: Ideas for Cheap Halloween Costumes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: HELP. SOMEONE HAS BEEN USING MY COMPUTER WHEN I LEFT MY ROOM FOR FIVE MINUTES. PLEASE IGNORE ALL OF THIS - IT IS NOT MY OPINION (HONEST). SEND ANY ABUSIVE MAIL TO PA GREEN AT pag4 at ukc.ac.uk COS HE'S THE BASTARD WHO WROTE THESE RUDE AND NASTY MESSAGES. BYE BYE, IAN HATCHER On Fri, 30 Oct 1998 19:46:34 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Ian Hatcher wrote: > > Dear Lardarse Yank, > Thou clearly hath too much time on thine hands. I suggest > you follow the normal Yank course of action and have a > wank, you fucking pwick. > > Robert Fis > On Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:09:34 -0500 (EST) FourJacksandaJill > ---------------------- > Ian Hatcher > igh1 at ukc.ac.uk > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------------------- Ian Hatcher igh1 at ukc.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From umsimo10 at xxx.CA Fri Oct 30 03:06:50 1998 From: umsimo10 at xxx.CA (Jesse Simon) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 03:06:50 Subject: Sinister: sinister: new york on monday night Message-ID: <3.0.3.16.19981030030650.2b5f898c@mail.cc.umanitoba.ca> Hello all. I'm going to be down in New York City on the monday that Belle and Sebastian are playing (november 2). I have thus far been unable to get tickets either through TicketMaster, Ticketmaster.com or Other Music. If anyone knows how i might get into the show, i'd love to hear suggestions and if anyone has tickets they are able to part with, please e-mail me privately. innumerable thanks, jesse +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TFertig3 at xxx.com Fri Oct 30 22:52:41 1998 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 17:52:41 EST Subject: Sinister: the wide world of cheese Message-ID: <90e1a597.363a4339@aol.com> Dear list, Sorry to bother you lot with another request, but it's getting pretty close to the NY gigs, and I'm gonna pee my pants. I want a ticket to the NOV 2 show! If anyone has an extra (yeah right...) or knows where I can obtain one, please tell me! I'll love you forever! Tomorrow will mark my one-year anniversary with this list. That's right, last Halloween I was introduced to Belle and Sebastian. This means that tomorrow, I will officially have spent 6% of my life on this list. How sick. Just one question (maybe two): In the press photograph (where they're all sitting in rows) on the B&S jeepster page, who is who? Every picture I see of them, they look different! And, does anyone that lives near me want to tape me any unreleased songs (lonliness of a middle distance runner, rhoda, on and on)? I live near Philadelphia. I will trade or tape something or anything! Anything! I feel so naked to know those lovely melodies exist and I haven't heard them! Bye bye, Tami +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From plaird at xxx.uk Sat Oct 31 00:18:12 1998 From: plaird at xxx.uk (Paul Laird) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 98 00:18:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: violated on Halloween Message-ID: <199810310019.AAA02963@cadmus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk> Silly Mr Hatcher wrote, >HELP. SOMEONE HAS BEEN USING MY COMPUTER WHEN I LEFT MY >ROOM FOR FIVE MINUTES. PLEASE IGNORE ALL OF THIS - IT IS >NOT MY OPINION (HONEST). Looks like Mr H has learned the hard way. Logging on at college and then pissing off for a cuppa is not recommended, lest some lowlife abuses your electronic circle of friends. Quote: > Dear ******** Yank, > Thou clearly hath too much time on thine hands. I suggest > you follow the normal Yank course of action and have a... Anybody else on the list feel violated? on the subject of list meets Tara Widmer said: >Brighton sounds more do-able than Glasgow (to those of us who possibly >can't do Glasgow) but I have to admit the idea of going to Brighton >intimidates me!! ::envisions uber-trendy mod brigade headed by STiNG, in >fisticuffs with big denim-clad types::: no, must remember -- it's just a >movie...just a movie...just... I'm in Edinburgh, and Glasgow didn't seem any more 'do-able' up here (well not at New Year anyway). Anyway, I seem to remember Keith W saying something about a meet-ups later. Meet-ups are generally always going to be regional (unless you jet-set as much as Keith or Tag appear to). I've always thought that I'd only be willing to travel great distances and meet up if B&S were performing somewhere, but then I'm a lazy git, and so far I've just been waiting till they come to me! So when are they going to do their 'spectacular homecoming tour'? I hope they don't burn out on the road somewhere Stateside. CUL8TER, The Lairdster +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bjmckinn at xxx.edu Sat Oct 31 00:52:50 1998 From: bjmckinn at xxx.edu (Brian Joseph Mckinney) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 19:52:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: black sessions In-Reply-To: <3634A72A.5880DCFE@lineone.net> Message-ID: Hello I emailed the duke about the dubbing of the black session and then he told me that he is only doing the uk dubs. Is there someone in charge of the states dubs? If so, I am extremely interested and have many things to trade. Please email me and a wonderful trade can occur! brian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From escossia at xxx.br Sat Oct 31 02:00:07 1998 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 00:00:07 -0200 Subject: Sinister: Dear grammar professor don't you know, don't you care about LOVE ? Message-ID: <01be0472$2f516980$0100007f@localhost> >Another amusing aside...I took a test in my grammar class and the professor >mentioned the Smiths in one of the questions. I used to have a grammar professor who was into Smiths too. He used to wear a This Charming Man t-shirt in class. Maybe he knows Belle and Sebastian too..but i dunno Smiths was BIG here in Brazil. Belle and Sebastian is not.... YET !!!! ~~~^~^v^~^v^~^v^~^v^~v^~^v^~^v^~ Ivo A P Escossia +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From parachute at xxx.net Sat Oct 31 05:18:11 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (brad) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 00:18:11 -0500 Subject: Sinister: brian's back! Message-ID: <363A9D93.3A8A@earthlink.net> well, not brian, but brad.......but i always wanted to be brian wilson...minus the fucking nuts part. so how's it going? i was sitting here thinking "you know, brad, you don't have enough stupid shit to fill up your day, and hey, what better place to read a bunch of meaningless drivel than on the belle and sebastian list? hey i got an idea, why don't you join back? you know you've been thinking about it....come on, everyone's doing it" so i caved into peer pressure from myself and here i am. i would go into a lengthy description of the religious experience that was the athens show, but i've already wrote it down once in a letter to someone else, and i don't feel like writing it all over again. but i will say....true happiness comes when your favorite band is playing your favorite song and you look behind you and there are 800 people dancing to it. makes me realise the world ain't so bad after all. so how is everyone.....pjmiller? still got that case of the crabs? tag? still got that nasty hemorrhoid problem? mr. mitchell? did that child molestation charge ever hold up? duke? duke? and hey, while i'm on the subject of tag's rectum and pjmiller's venereal affliction, isn't the "stomach flu" just a nice way of saying isobel had the shits? the little brown bear came out of hibernation? enough talking poorly of people. isobel was beautiful. she could have had toilet paper stuck to her shoe and shit running down her leg, and i still would've wanted to marry her. stuart likes tight shirts, don't he? -brad +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NoelWhitey at xxx.com Sat Oct 31 07:39:35 1998 From: NoelWhitey at xxx.com (NoelWhitey at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 02:39:35 EST Subject: Sinister: HAPPY HALLOWEEN! Message-ID: Just Wanted to wish everyone a happy halloween and Remmber NO MATTER HOW OLD YOU ARE,YOU STILL CAN TRICK OR TREAT! -Damon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Sat Oct 31 09:21:37 1998 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 10:21:37 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Halloween night Message-ID: <363AD6A0.300606F6@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> In Italy there's no Halloween party , i hate this . Every year i do a little party for this day. This year i'll do something different ( i want to precisate that my dream is to go in New York for Halloween) : i'll invite my girlfrien in my house , i'll prepare her a beautiful dinner and then we'll go in my bedroom, that this night will be trasformed. Full of black candle in old candlestick ( i've got more of 20 different old candlestick) , and for contour rock music ( yes coz i think that Halloween is the party of rock music, the party of black candle and of mystery). At the end of the night we'll wake up with the sweet B&S's music , do you like the contrast??? Good Halloween at everyone. Marco#7 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From igh1 at xxx.uk Sat Oct 31 11:11:09 1998 From: igh1 at xxx.uk (Ian Hatcher) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 11:11:09 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: No subject Message-ID: unsubscribe sinister-digest ---------------------- Ian Hatcher igh1 at ukc.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.Wyplosz at xxx.uk Sat Oct 31 12:35:37 1998 From: C.Wyplosz at xxx.uk (Wyplosz,C) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 12:35:37 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I've got one too Message-ID: <116DF9642B30D1119D530000F800DC37021ADC27@exchs3.lse.ac.uk> I am new on the list (a nieuwee i think), but I have a copy of the Black Session and I live in the UK (London). I am willing to do as many tapes you want (or maybe not that much), if you send blank tapes (or any bootlegs you have and could be 'interesting', and the necessary postage for anywhere in the world. Ta da da ta, et voila! Clem. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris.jones at xxx.uk Sat Oct 31 12:37:40 1998 From: chris.jones at xxx.uk (Chris Jones) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 12:37:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: TABS Message-ID: <199810311238.MAA17920@freebsd.saqnet.co.uk> chris.jones at saqnet.co.uk http://www.saqnet.co.uk/users/saxtead/chris.htm http://www.saqnet.co.uk/users/saxtead/tiger/ Can someone post 'It could have been a brilliant career' tab please, Cheers, Chris Jones. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Sat Oct 31 13:22:08 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 08:22:08 EST Subject: Sinister: Aren't people annoying when they're in love? Message-ID: Hello popkidsss, how are you all then? Oh. Well don't rub it then, and it won't hurt. Tsk. I feel like I've been away for ever. I'm sure my memory's faded on this list, as you've callously allowed SOMEONE ELSE TO BE CALLED SEBASTIAN! Pah. Tarts. It's been a turbulent time chez seb, but I think it's all over now. You see I've found my Belle (don't snigger), and it looks like everything's going to be fine. You can have my name- I don't think I'm a sebastian anymore. My unrequited love days are over. Rah! Anyway, what's going on around here now? I trust everyone's in mourning for Ted Whohes. I used to think he was an overrated bore; funny how the use of the past tense can alter one's opinions? It is sad though. He was never the hoary old git people wanted him to be, not an evil bastard facist MAN who killed a tender fragile 'poet' . I worked with him for a bit, on a play he'd written, and he seemed nothing more than a thoughtful, and slightly pissed old man. He did watch all the boys taking their costumes off though. And he made us masturbate on stage..mmm. Still, that aside, the world will miss him, and his work, especially the one where he's writing a poem and a fox comes to the study window late at night....magic. I just hope Sylvia Plath's not waiting for him with a viciously sharp Biro, that's all. byebye Seb (Incidently, I ought to tell you all an annecdote. So I will. Where I live is in a slightly battered bit of south london, straggling along the river, and spoiling the view for the rich people on the north bank. It's quiet round here, and I imagine there are quite a few foxes, but that's beside the point. Anyway, there's nowhere better to put on a big coat, and go wandering round on a chilly day, so that's what I was doing, singing B&S very loudly to the passing boats. Just as I arrived on the poshest bit of the north bank I was singing ''ease your feet into the sea'' and the moment that that high note left my mouth, I realised there was no way I could ever reach it... It screamed uncontrollably, and it bounced of the river walls and came back twice as loud, twice as nasty. The birds scattered into the air, and a man I hadn't noticed before, darted across the road away from me, looking back with genuine fear in his piggy eyes. He ran inelegantly up the road, eyes darting back at me every two yards, and making up in speed what he lacked in style. It was Andrew Lloyd Webber. I made him crap his pats!!!hahahahahahha! I assume it was some kind of Vampire/Garlic reaction, so kids, if you're unfortunate enough to run into the tosser, hum a few bars of The State I'm In, and with luck, he'll explode like someone on UltraViolet. Leaving nothing behind him except a pile of dust. And a virtually dead Theatre Industry, and some second hand songs, of course. Not really as good as Rory's General Pinnochet story, but vaguely interesting, maybe?) anyway, as you were then. Thanks for the lovely tape Mike & Pam. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sat Oct 31 15:20:52 1998 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 07:20:52 PST Subject: Sinister: happy halloween chums Message-ID: <19981031152053.26944.qmail@hotmail.com> dear little punkins, I was just reading little bits of the SELECT b&s (hey....guess what,they also printed my letter! Miss Withers! That's me! )and ummm 'dance you lame fuckers' Who was that!did you throw pennies at Stuart? oh my...the list is so dirty now! (innocent high school fumblings? naive? HAR HAR...yeahhh right,naive..they are the sleaziest!)anyways,i finally saw an arab strap and i'm scared...it's looks like a dark-ages death trap... i wore my b&s shirt in hopes of looking unstoppably desirable to my scottish frozen yogurt man,i thinik he winked at me,but my friend said he just has a nervous tick,and instead of him this guy that looked like woody allen ask me out instead le sigh... >b) Morrissey. This is easy, some pomade for the hair, my Malcolm X/Buddy >Holly glasses, gaudy beads round the neck, some kind of long sleeve >button-up shirt. Flowers in the back pocket. ...I don't have much to work with either,so I'm going as a clockwork orange boy or a stripper vicar or put a crown on my head and call myself Papa Honey and after trick o treating,beware math teacher there's lots of mischief to be done tonight candy candy candy candy candy! kissssss genevieve ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Sat Oct 31 15:31:20 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 15:31:20 -0000 Subject: Sinister: My cardigan is more punk rock than you'll ever be matey! Message-ID: <003c01be04e3$a3ec1d00$584d989e@elsato97> Hello kiddies! some dude writed : I CAN'T BELIEVE SARAH ACTUALLY WROTE A LETTER TO THIS MAILING LIST! HOW COOL IS THAT? calm down matey, its only me......even though, I must admit I am pretty damn cool and my posts brighten up your days.... ER SARAH WE HAFTA SORT OUT CONTRACTUAL STUFF I'MDOING A FILM ABOUT SCOTTISH BIRDS WHO CAN'T SPELL, IT'S A CROSS BETWEEN TRAINSPOTTING AND ANY OTHER MODERN BRITISH FILM WITH A HALF DECENT SOUNDTRACK ON IT. . . . . . . ER HELLO? Um, capitals.....calm your keyboard boyeee! Hmph I can spell. I just don't choose to follow societys restrictions on my language, man! And I was born in Scotland but we moved away when I was 5. All I remember of living in the highlands was a big hill.....and playing with teh boy next door, who I remember wore red pyjamas. I'll be up for your film if I get free drugs, lots of ham and cheese sandwiches, chicken kievs and REAL chips, and cheese and onion hula hoops and chocolate and speed so I can work all the calories off afterwards....don't get the impression I'm hungry at this current moment will youse? I went out last night to a moshers club in Blackpool with my old high school pals. It was funny! Best moments were when 1) they played INTERGALATIC by the Beastie Boyz which made me laff, all these pimply kids were tryin' to 'give it large cha?' on the dancefloor, while I giggled at them and tried to 'rap-dance', but I supose I just looked a silly twat. 2) When they played DEBASER! A cracking tune!! I had a big grin on my face by then, and I hadn't even got sloortered 'cos I had to go to work at 11.30 the next day..... Sad bits - 1) I was BULLIED into dancing to Marylin Manson at the start of the night. 2) This is proof that I'm an old fart before my times, I actually thought, 'well I rate NIN more than this crap cos at least its got a tune and you can hear the lyrics, the rest is just growling shite'......oooh, pensions... 3) I wore a JOY DIVISION tshirt, with a shirt over it. My friends boyfriend then leaned over to me and shouted, 'Is that TERRORVISION??'..... GRRR! No it bloody isn't and he hadn't even heard of Joy Division. Pah. 4) Simply Red. Why are they alive. Why aren't they dead? Kill them someone. Anyway, Got to pass on a message now, could Alberto Perez please mail his address again please, as I left it on the old computer which is now dead..... :) gracias! Peter Miller - my parents are going to Spain on Sunday. They are going to post your tape when they get to Malaga airport, cheers for them!!! Ho de hum I'm dull as poo aren't i..... I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Candarel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Arigreen23 at xxx.com Sat Oct 31 18:47:01 1998 From: Arigreen23 at xxx.com (Arigreen23 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:47:01 EST Subject: Sinister: halloween, etc. Message-ID: <543bec2.363b5b25@aol.com> happy halloween all! i was gonna go as olly from sifl and olly but so such luck, no time to make a costume...oh well...yes indeed you are never too old to trick or treat. ari +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jaygatsby at xxx.com Sat Oct 31 19:11:12 1998 From: jaygatsby at xxx.com (Sean McVeigh) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:11:12 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Washington D.C./Radio Sessions Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981031141112.00851590@mail.geocities.com> Just wanted to thank all the nice folks whom I talked to at the D.C. show last night. Thanks for keeping me entertained. Also, a question. How readily can the radio sessions braodcast in Europe be gotten? I have everything, all three eps, all three records and would love to hear those. By the way, show last night: beautiful. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Dawn000016 at xxx.com Sat Oct 31 19:29:22 1998 From: Dawn000016 at xxx.com (Dawn000016 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:29:22 EST Subject: Sinister: B&S shows in NYC Message-ID: <73426425.363b6512@aol.com> Hi, Does anyone have an extra ticket (or two) to either of the shows in nyc? thanks, marisa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TopBanana1 at xxx.com Sat Oct 31 19:38:35 1998 From: TopBanana1 at xxx.com (TopBanana1 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:38:35 EST Subject: Sinister: me going to NY show Message-ID: hey guys, i havent posted in over a month, but i just wanted to tell all the NY people going to the show on NOV 1 to say hi to me if they want, i love meeting strangers. Shirley Braha's Homepage.....my pic is at my homepage, ill be wearing a long black coat, with a little blue belle & sebastian pin on the corner of the collar, the same picture that is on the cover of arab strap. and um, if my coat is off.....im dressing up indie!!!!!!! sorta. im wearing blue corduroys and a maroon shirt with lines on the sleeves. high heeled boots. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i cant believe it!!!!!!!!! ive been counting down for two months. less than 30 hours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! btw, incase anyone remembers, or cares, im the girl that was gonna have to go to the concert with her mommy cause its the only way she was allowed.\ but guess what boys & girls, heres a cute story........ my old friend aaron is on this list, we had not spoken in a long time before we fouind out we were both on the lsit. so we both found out we were on the list, and then we both had already bought tickets for the show, same night, nov 1. so i begged my mom, she said yes because she knew him from a few years ago. so now im going with him, and his friend maurice who i met and is so sweet. with my extra ticket for my mommy......my love, stephen, from london, whos also on the list, just so happened he decided to coem to NY this week. so we're meeting and i cant wait anymore. AND SHIRLEY LIVED HAPPILY EVER AFTER. ive very scared soemthign is gonna get fucked up. it all seems to perfect. blah blah blah, enough of my babbling, sorry. see ya shirl +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Sat Oct 31 20:55:34 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (Jake) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 20:55:34 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Brighton meetup Message-ID: <199810312054.UAA19245@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Hi all, The initial details of a meetup in Brighton are now up on the Jeepster meetup page (thanks David), and from the responses already it seems that people like the idea of December the 29th. (It seems that on this date that Nicole and Tara, will be over from America so it'll be nice to see them then) Have the Manchester/Glasgow plans got dates yet? it is just I don't want to double book those listees who will be wanting to go to those aswell. It was suggested that we meet up early in the day, so that those who have to travel can leave reasonably early having met people, because there are concerns about getting there and back, although it is on a fast line to London. I have forgotten the names of those of you on the list who said you were interested, but if you could either mail me, or the meetup page with any further suggestions and then I can start making more definate plans. Thanks for listening. Time to take off the "organisers head", and now on with the "tapers head" in a truely Worzel Gummage-esque way. For those of you who it concerns the next lot of tapes went off today, meaning you should get them at the start of next week. Jake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Sat Oct 31 21:07:49 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (Jake) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 21:07:49 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Honey is moving us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <199810312106.VAA19574@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> I just went to have a quick look at the sinister homepage, and I found it has been updated with the update about todays happening telling me something about possible relocation of the list. Honey, say it ain't so, I am happy here, I don't wanna move. Jake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Sat Oct 31 23:25:12 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 23:25:12 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: oh... lots Message-ID: Kenny wrote: > I just went to have a quick look at the sinister homepage, and I > found it has been updated with the update about todays happening > telling me something about possible relocation of the list. Yes, I'm moving the mailing list to Alaska. You will all have to wear red underwear and speak in Estonian to use it, and if any message doesn't contain with word "Tobleronesqe" it will automatically be rejected by the mail server software I'm afraid. It's a bug. There's twice as many of you juicy succulent heart-achingly beautiful listees as there was a bit ago when I was having palpitations. But you're all worth it. So I'm exploring some options to relocate the mailing list to somewhere without quite the same pants-down embarrassment possibilities for me and looking at a few kind offers from people. If I do move it, don't worry, you'll hardly know, and I'll make sure it stays completely independent, because that's the point. You won't even have to move your coffee table. With so many mails I have too much to natter about here for my fingers to keep up with - but I've got to say thanks to Reid for the fabulous email about the Athens gig and his subsequent street-based shenanigans. Can we have more of these gig reports? Me and Splat would like that. I'd also like to add that I'm now dying to hear the band's paean to the 70s parka, Lord Anthony, but I couldn't possibly condone anyone taping it live, especially if they sent me a copy. Someone nice from Ireland asked about France Gall and a few people like Xavier replied - just to back that up, get the 4CD set if you can, it's fabulous (CDs 2 and 4 make me go gooey), and if not I'd get the LP "1968" - didn't Peter Miller mention this as one of the things he didn't buy? Tsk. Someone else tsked too, about an offer to pay over the odds for a tape on the list. I'm sorry to be a sulky thing but he/she was right, please keep this list squeaky clean for my sake and don't mention cash unless it's to cover stamps, tapes or sexual favours. Carrick - yes I believe it IS "our Oon" on Blueboy's LP - isn't that nice? She did their hair for the video. Dukey mentioned Blueboy in his book which I also now have in my grubby hands. It's a poptastic cornucopia of pop packed from cover to cover with popness and popticity. His knowledge of The Partridge Family's early years knows no bounds. Stuart G - tall and splendid you may be, but I think you're wrong about the Century of Elvis debate. It all took place on this list not the embryonic Coolist I think - look for "broccoli" in the search engine and you'll find it, and maybe spell it wrong because I never can get the hang of it. Vegetables? Pah. Sorry to everyone in the US for that display of the best of british from the computer hijacker - you know we love you really. Please don't go and take it out on the alleged offender though as suggested - we'll only risk another mail to the list. I'm in help-mum-with-the-washing-up mode so here's another one from TFertig3 at aol.com: > In the press photograph (where they're all sitting in rows) on > the B&S jeepster page, who is who? Every picture I see of them, > they look different! We've done this before, but I bet it's tricky to find in the archives. Select (December) in their interesting four-page B&S spread actually do the kind favour of picking it apart for you and naming names for us in the UK - none of them look much like them but if it's helpful to anyone... Stuart David's at the back making bored poo-poo noises, then there's Stevie and Chris copying his maths homework, then Isobel and Sarah, then Mick thinking about what he's having for his tea, and then Stuart reading Ezekiel and the top of Richard's head. Finally you're all deeply loved and those shoes really suit you. Please keep on being good and cuddly while I'm poorly, remember to keep the list special and help it by thinking what you post before you send it, and try sending fewer big mails rather than loads of little ones (it matters), and generally have a nice time, ok? We're going to have a competition next week for anecdotes of the form "I sang songs to Andrew Lloyd-Webber in ... and he ..." and because FunkySeb's made me giggle in bed this morning, he will win. Honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kebaer at xxx.edu Sat Oct 31 23:38:08 1998 From: kebaer at xxx.edu (Kara Baer) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 18:38:08 -0500 Subject: Sinister: DC shwinding a lee ding Message-ID: I haven't seen many posts on the DC show, so I believe I'll share my convoluted account with y'all. My friend, Bo, and I got to the club around 9:30, when the doors were supposed to open. There was a looo....oong line of people waiting to get in. Hipsters and sweeties as far as the eye could see. Bo asked around for a ticket, 'cause he didn't have one. It was around 10pm then, and we still hadn't been let in. Fast Forward to 11:30 and finally getting in the doors, skipping over Bo eating a McDonalds Hamburger and getting ill...veganism is the answer people! So, we hear the last 2/3 songs by the opening band..I have no idea who they were. Then they set up the stuff for Belle & Sebby. I then confessed to Bo that I had brought a camera. Me, obsessive? Never. At midnight or so, the band ambles on. I wish I could remeber the exact order of songs..somebody help me out here: Simple Things: got lots of cheers...Throughout the show, one girl insisted on shouting for this one even though they had played it first! Daft! Like Dylan in the Movies Ease Your Feet Off in the Sea Century of Elvis: It's true, people did crane their necks to see who was talking. MayFly Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying Stars of Track and Field: during this one I started to laugh at the "taking pictures of your obsessions" line, because thats what I'd been doing Seeing Other People: Stuart hid behind the piano for this one Is It Wicked Not to Care? Sleep the Clock Around Dirty Dream #2: I think this was last (Quite a few from IYFS) plus one I hadn't heard which Stevie sang, and one Stuart said they hadn't released. The crowd was very enthusiatic, but reserved. No one talked or sang along loudly during the show...people were groovin' though. I had never really seen any photographs of the band, or anything, before. Stuart M. has the face of an angel to go with that warm heavenly voice. Isobel was wearing a very cute pair of Tiger Ears. She looks like she's feeling better. The sound was warm and mellow and encompassed me. I think I could have melted away...le sigh. Mellowness was not the secret word after the show, however, as Bo and I proceeded to go around in circles trying to find our way out of DC. I think we passed the same spot 4 or 5 times..we didn't get back until 3am. Did anyone tape the show? I know I saw a woman with a video camera...is that you? No, sorry..my mistake. Love Kara +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Gareth at xxx.uk Sat Oct 31 20:05:14 1998 From: Gareth at xxx.uk (Gareth Probert) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 20:05:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Simply Red Comment Message-ID: <363B6D7A.7420AFA5@probert-edi.compulink.co.uk> Hello I know Honey asked us not to send as many small mails, but I have to say this and I promise I won't write any short ones again... Sarah wrote: "Simply Red. Why are they alive. Why aren't they dead? Kill them someone." I would just like to say that I don't think I have laughed at anything quite so much in a long time. The wording is pure genius. Thank-you, for brightening up me Sunday evening Gareth (who has still got a big grin on his face) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+