From LMJ216 at xxx.com Tue Sep 1 00:01:26 1998 From: LMJ216 at xxx.com (LMJ216 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 19:01:26 EDT Subject: Fwd: Sinister: toronto? Message-ID: <71e9bf65.35eb2b46@aol.com> An embedded message was scrubbed... From: LMJ216 at xxx.com Subject: Sinister: toronto? Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 18:48:05 EDT Size: 594 URL: From zulu at xxx.uk Tue Sep 1 00:18:36 1998 From: zulu at xxx.uk (Colin Campbell) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 00:18:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: It's nice to get out and about Message-ID: <199808312305.AAA27607@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* That was fun. I saw you all sitting down the front, but I was to shy to say hello. You'd really think he could remember the words to his own songs though. ;) maybe see you all tomorrow. colin. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From calumn at xxx.uk Tue Sep 1 01:46:11 1998 From: calumn at xxx.uk (Calumn Shearer) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 01:46:11 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <01BDD54A.4C90DBE0.calumn@netcomuk.co.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* right, i've missed the 1st post about the gig (thanks to colin!) but yes, it was fun. I was the mad man running about collecting signatures from everyone I could find and generally making a complete fool of myself... serves me right for having such a good time! It was good...... I discovered that I was at the same "residential" music course as Isobel (claim to fame!) and I even met her auntie (she's _really_ nice!) I've managed to finally put a face to a lot of the names I've met on the list and on IRC, which is nice but don't expect a review of the gig, cos I'm going to leave that to someone who's heard b&s live before. don't think I've got a hope of winning chris' elvis pic though, I can't remember my entry to the competition, but I'm sure that that set was nowhere near it! A fine end to my day-off-work! Love to you all, and honey - I've still got Karen's pen! cal (drunk, but still upright!) P.S since it's the end of my sabbatical, I'm going to be answering all these e-mails that have been flooding my way (hopefully!) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From monroej at xxx.com Tue Sep 1 08:57:51 1998 From: monroej at xxx.com (John F. Monroe) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 00:57:51 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Chicago, Now! Message-ID: <01e301bdd57e$3a39bd20$a051cfa9@monroej.execpc> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* right from the Chicago Metro website ( www.metrochicago.com) Mon., October 26 BELLE AND SEBASTIAN Tickets: $14 18 & Over Doors: 8:00 / Show:9:00 if this is not the case, someone please tell us so :) ( Leonard Nimoy knows a good parade when he sees one.... ) -john +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Tue Sep 1 07:34:57 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 02:34:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: i'm back, tour dates, and anything else i feel like talking about, so THERE! Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* hello all! well, i'm back in good old nyc, apparently in time for another picnic. luckily, i'm not planning this one, so i encourage all to come out. then we can be happy and frolic and whatnot. yup, sounds lovely. or we can be like the british sinisterines and get hopelessly drunk and end up sobbing in an alleyway somewhere. don't think your happy little photos have me fooled!!! have to get up pretty early in the morning to do that. or at least earlier than me. which would mean noon. so about the dates, yeah i finally get to see them in nyc!!!! i would like to offer an invitation to the band to stay in my dorm. it's actually against the rules in a technical manner, but i think i could sneak them into the laundry room. and really, it's all about location after all. ooh, and they can stay with me if they play in portland, or in janurary. i've already informed my mother, and i'm not joking there. she was getting ready to host them this summer. personally, i can think of few things more entertaining than having belle and sebastian stay at my family's house. we have a trampoline, so i think they'll want to come. and the scary thing is that my parents will probably like them quite a lot. i'm not sure why i think this, perhaps because the idea of my mom and stuart murdoch discussing the merits of judy blume amuses me to no end. on a more realistic note, the second issue of movers and shakers is now complete. it features interviews with #poundsign#, the cat's miaow, the apples in stereo, his name is alive, and the shoestrings. and lots of reviews, including some of b&s. guess how i rated their stuff.... hmmm, i really know i had something else to say. oh well, forgive me if i sound odder than usual, but i just moved in today and i've been unpacking and a bit off for most of the evening. and now i'm feeling myself crashing. sigh. ok, i'll be back later. xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sleepflower_msp at xxx.com Tue Sep 1 12:15:11 1998 From: sleepflower_msp at xxx.com (Sam Norman) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 04:15:11 PDT Subject: Sinister: Go on - rub it in Message-ID: <19980901111512.17906.qmail@hotmail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* yet again, i have been the subject of Connex south east's plans to stop young people travelling. Over the weekend no trains stopped at my locl station (Chelsfield) but did they tell anyone, probably. But did they send me a personal letter telling me that there arrangements would stop me going to the greenwich meeting, they certinley did not. i spent two hours on Sunday sittig watching trains, including the eurostar flash past me. All i wanted was for one train to stop and let me get on. So how was it? What did I miss? anyone want to join in a hate campaign against Connex South East? or any other rail operator? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From padraic_fresheire at xxx.com Tue Sep 1 12:46:38 1998 From: padraic_fresheire at xxx.com (padraic doorey) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 04:46:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Re: Go on rub it in Message-ID: <19980901114638.29140.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* i didn't make the picnic either cause it clashed with road trips to dungeoness whilst downing gin and tonics in strange fluorescent slim jims. i managed to get to the tail end of the event and put some picnicers in the back of the car while we successfully went to stratford and quite unsuccessfully ventured towards crouch end but ended spectacularly up in enfield. and then funkyseb dropped the cigarette lighter on the passenger seat and burned a big hole in it (naughty funkyseb) but it doesn't matter coz it was a rental. however, yesterday, the fabu *vicky* played to me wonderful songs from TBWTAS as we drank more gin and tonic. i heard a rumour there might have been another picnic in primrose hill yesterday....did it go ahead? should i be green with envy? are any of the listees going to make it to the NY shows? *mwah* *mwah* Lady Penelope _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tton at xxx.edu Tue Sep 1 13:34:03 1998 From: tton at xxx.edu (THAIAN N TON) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Back, front, side to side Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hello my beautiful Sinisterees, I hope life has been treating each and every one of you as happy as you can be. I missed the list and finally re-subscribed to find it as wonderful as ever. Ink Polaroid of the last month: That's me, dashing about, I finally chatted up a blokie in the record shop and he agreed to give me a copy of The Boy ... and I'm dancing with such joy. I have to promise, though, to give him an equally good copy of Tigermilk. I'm still dancing even though my car's been towed, I've got no money, but the beautiful Belle & Sebastian are coming to DC! Hooray! Love, Chi chi xoxo (Thaian) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sandrad at xxx.com Tue Sep 1 13:31:13 1998 From: sandrad at xxx.com (Sandra Duric) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 08:31:13 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Chicago, Now! In-Reply-To: <01e301bdd57e$3a39bd20$a051cfa9@monroej.execpc> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980901083113.00924490@mail.accu-staff.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* That's amazing! By the way, to the "midwest freak" (smile), I tried to email you (see below) but the postmaster said no-no, won't go.. >>Hi midwest freak!! >>Jeepster won't confirm anything, but it's tentatively scheduled for the >>week of October 23rd, I think the 25th or 27th. Are you seriously going to >>travel to Chicago from Oklahoma??? How far is that?? My friend and I are >>in Windsor, Canada (5 minutes from Detroit). >>Sandra At 12:25 PM 8/31/98 -0500, you wrote: > > *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > >Hey! I just started getting this list sent to me. When are B&S playing >Chicago? I'd LOVE to go. I live in Oklahoma (going to University of >Oklahoma, ACK!) Plans for meeting up would be *superb.* I mean, if you >don't mind meeting up with a complete freak from the midwest : ) > >Travis > At 12:57 AM 9/1/98 -0700, you wrote: > > *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > >right from the Chicago Metro website ( www.metrochicago.com) > >Mon., October 26 > >BELLE AND SEBASTIAN > >Tickets: $14 >18 & Over >Doors: 8:00 / Show:9:00 > > >if this is not the case, someone please tell us so :) > > > >( Leonard Nimoy knows a good parade when he sees one.... ) > >-john > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From matthew_kelly_at_hscb-b7 at xxx.edu Tue Sep 1 16:40:32 1998 From: matthew_kelly_at_hscb-b7 at xxx.edu (matthew_kelly_at_hscb-b7 at xxx.edu) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 98 10:40:32 -0500 Subject: Sinister: who knows about NY dates? Message-ID: <9809019046.AA904660406@netmail.hscbklyn.edu> Howdy all. Does anyone have any info for me on a ny show? I have heard supper club on 11/1. If anyone can tell me more please do or you'll wake up with peanut-butter on your glasses and if you don't wear glasses, well than ... nothing happens to you. Thanks Matt _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: Sinister: Back, front, side to side From: THAIAN N TON at Internet Date: 9/1/98 8:34 AM *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hello my beautiful Sinisterees, I hope life has been treating each and every one of you as happy as you can be. I missed the list and finally re-subscribed to find it as wonderful as ever. Ink Polaroid of the last month: That's me, dashing about, I finally chatted up a blokie in the record shop and he agreed to give me a copy of The Boy ... and I'm dancing with such joy. I have to promise, though, to give him an equally good copy of Tigermilk. I'm still dancing even though my car's been towed, I've got no money, but the beautiful Belle & Sebastian are coming to DC! Hooray! Love, Chi chi xoxo (Thaian) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ -------------- next part -------------- Received: from envy.ph.ed.ac.uk by netmail.hscbklyn.edu (ccMail Link to SMTP R8.10.00) ; Tue, 01 Sep 98 08:29:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA21259; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:35:08 +0100 Received: by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:34:32 +0100 Received: (from majordomo at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA21198 for sinister-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:34:26 +0100 Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (welchlink.welch.jhu.EDU [128.220.59.78]) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA21193 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:34:07 +0100 Received: from localhost by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id IAA23360 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:34:03 -0400 (EDT) From: THAIAN N TON To: Sinister Subject: Sinister: Back, front, side to side Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To: THAIAN N TON X-List: Sinister From amh20 at xxx.uk Tue Sep 1 15:53:52 1998 From: amh20 at xxx.uk (A.M. Horne) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:53:52 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: the monday poem (slight return): espadrille Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* so, posting to the list again after what has to be a couple of months. and it feels a little odd. can i remember how you're supposed to do this...? oh, one thing i _do_ remember is that you have to talk about tapes that keith's done you, and to say how great they are. well, actually, thanks to the wonders of the tape tree, i _can_ do this. and so i shall. particularly since i should have mailed him personally to thank him already. but, hell, everyone else is doing it, so why shouldn't i? (as the cranberries, who _don't_ feature on keith's tape (or actually cd)) once nearly said. so. ok. thanks keith... for the cd. i suppose i shouldn't actually go into loads of detail about what's on it, since, unusually, some of you will actually be hearing this yourselves at some point or other, but i will say that the notorious b.i.g. track on the cd sounds just like something off the first snoop doggy dogg lp. thanks again. oh. and liz daplyn's tape is wonderful. superb. but anyway, that's enough of that. let's talk about something else before i get on with my contractual obligation and post the monday poem, which is why i'm posting the list in the first place (thanks genevieve), after deciding that i'd be better off on the benedictine-monastery mailing-list (fairly quiet in terms of the number of mails, but we brew our own beer) so. thanks to those of you who've mailed me or even the list to ask why i don't post any more. thanks particularly to james errington for his little parable at the end of last week, which i can exclusively reveal to susannah and anyone else who may (or not - please yourself) have been wondering what it was about, was actually about me and honeypaul. and the list. this probably isn't the place for a full sunday-school-style interpretation, but thanks james, anyway (oh. and don't worry, honeypaul. i won't be making a habit (gosh. can't stop the wretched puns even when i'm trying to be serious) of posting to the list. this is a one-off. or counting yesterday's apology, a two-off. whatever.) anything else? vh-1's offering a whole day devoted to the beegees fairly soon, which of course _i_'ll be glued to. any gossip i ought to respond to? not really. all quiet on the preston front. i can, of course, exclusively reveal that the notorious eric griffiths (the 'disrespectful don' of paper fame) may well be a nasty man, but he's also very funny, in case any of you daily mail readers are out there. the chart show's dead, but i'd hate to stir up any trouble about that in case anyone used to watch live and kicking instead. no reviews of the gigs? things _are_ quiet. still, at least the software'll be happy. love 'the boy with'. and 'brilliant career'. can't wait for nottingham and london. and wasn't that muck-raking documentary on the carry-on films last night appalling. so charles hawtry, kenneth williams and frankie howerd were gay. gosh. and they hid it so well. how long before we get an expose of oscar bloody wilde. (who isn't as funny as any of the above anyway) anyway, the poem. a day late. but there you go. by frank o'hara. who was a genius. but you knew that already. and it's called 'the day lady died'. and it's about billie holiday (not the 'because we want to' billie, tho i'm sure simon armitage has already written a poem about her, being the on-the-pulse sort of guy he surely is (and no, stuart g, don't mention murray lachlan young. don't even think about it)). so. billie holiday. not billy bragg. or billy mackenzie, who deserved something like this himself. ok. the poem. 'the day lady died' It is 12:20 in New York a Friday three days after Bastille day, yes it is 1959 and I go get a shoeshine because I will get off the 4:19 in Easthampton at 7:15 and then go straight to dinner and i don't know the people who will feed me I walk up the muggy street beginning to sun and have a hamburger and a malted and buy an ugly NEW WORLD WRITING to see what the poets in Ghana are doing these days I go on to the bank and Miss Stillwagon (first name Linda I once heard) doesn't even look up my balance for once in her life and in the GOLDEN GRIFFIN I get a little Verlaine for Patsy with drawings by Bonnard although I do think of Hesiod, trans. Richmond Lattimore or Brendan Behan's new play or _Le Balcon_ or _Les Negres_ of Genet, but I don't, I stick with Verlaine after practically going to sleep with quandariness and for Mike I just stroll into the PARK LANE Liquor Store and ask for a bottle of Strega and then I go back where I came from to 6th Avenue and the tobacconist in the Zeigfield Theatre and casually ask for a carton of Gauloises and a carton of Picayunes, and a NEW YORK POST with her face on it and I am sweating a lot by now and thinking of leaning on the john door in the 5 SPOT while she whispered a song along the keyboard to Mal Waldron and everyone and I stopped breathing (oh. and a p.s. a poem by tom raworth. who is also a genius. if anyone's still reading. after which, bye.... (the-list-exile-formerly-known-as-espadrille)) MY FACE IS MY OWN, I THOUGHT morning he had gone down to the village a figure she still recognised from his walk nothing he had explained is won by arguing things are changed only by power and cunning she still sat meaning to ask what did you say ? echo in her ears he might just have finished speaking so waiting and taking the scissors began to trim off the baby's fingers (ok. that's the last from me. i choose the lovely and very bright debbie to do the next one. and nothing from tom stoppard, young lady. ok. bye. i'm going now. or something like that. to listen to my del shannon lp.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Tue Sep 1 16:54:40 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:54:40 EDT Subject: Sinister: Re: Go on then, rub it in Message-ID: <177b21c0.35ec18c0@aol.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* <> Do any listees want to join a hate campaign against me? I am the founder. I'm sure you missed many things though all I really remember is being VERY LOUD all the time and causing a mess everywhere. Salsaing tapes and burning seats. So, sorry to everyone whom I've upset. I'm going into the corner for a bit to think about the consequences of my actions. Seb BTW don't you hate it when you buy a ticket for a train, and then no one bothers to check it? Connex SE must be the worst at this. But if you don't buy one, you feel so guilty. For weeks. Tsk, eh? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From heinitz at xxx.net Tue Sep 1 01:32:56 1998 From: heinitz at xxx.net (Heinitz) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 98 00:32:56 GMT Subject: Sinister: no more mouse Message-ID: <980901003256.n0001268.heinitz@mail.clara.net> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* after three days in my care, and the consumption of half a digestive biscuit, approximately two square centimetres of ice-cream cone, a teaspoonful of cheshire cheese, two slices of cucumber and a malteser, Frog the mouse has been returned to the wild. I took him for a walk in a little rodent-carrying box, and let him go near some trees, far enough away from my house to ensure not seeing him again in the jaws of one of my cats. he will not be forgotten. abi (who doesn't have anything better to do with her time) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Tue Sep 1 17:59:24 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 16:59:24 GMT Subject: Sinister: Reykjavik Cowboys go Glasgow Message-ID: <35ec1ce0.16992960@post.demon.co.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hello Campers, Say it loud, I'm back and I'm proud. I had a lovely holiday, thank you for asking. Highlights... A two hour ride on one of those lovely Icelandic horses across fine mountain scenery, although this seems to have given me a strange gait and a dull ache somewhere unmentionable; Being forced up a near vertical cliff by my significantly more energetic travelling companion, complaining all the way, only to be rewarded with the most amazing view of a volcano and the coast and a huge glacier; In the Blue Lagoon, the cure for every ailment known to man, just sitting there as the warm water eased over my bones and soaked into my pores; Not going to poxy Damon Albarn's bar (why does everyone ask me that?); Last but not least, hanging out with the mighty Olla, our Icelandic Sinisterine, and discovering that she rules with the best of us, especially after Tom, the middle-aged Minnesota millionaire who latched on to us, had bought us numerous drinks in a futile attempt to convince us that mercenary capitalist bastards had feelings too. But, God knows, you kids want to know about Belle and Sebastian. As my flight conventiently came in to Glasgow, I was able to attend the B&S whist drive/bingo/youth club event at Maryhill Community Centre, (next door to Taggart's car complex, the source of much merriment) an occasion that allowed me to meet "Tasty" Tim H!O!P!kins, the famous Mister Ed (our chauffeur for the night), the delightful Ooooooon, the publishing David, not to mention "zany" autograph hunter Calumn, along with a few of the usual suspects. Keith "Snap Happy" Watson was causing trauma with his funsize camera, playing air piano (a true multi-instrumentalist) with Tim to "Outdoor Miner", and missing the golden oppurtunity to drink in a band named after his favourite drummer - Bonham. Susannah had a cold. Jackson Jeffrey Jackson was wearing little more than a smile, to celebrate his hat-trick against Newcastle, Rachel's breasts preceded her, Katrina and David and Anne and Paul and Linda and Chris and Julia and Sandy and were there too. We mingled and dug the sounds. Then we were herded like cattle through to the "auditorium". Katrina's botty shuffle across the dancefloor (no stilleto heels by order of the management) was the unexpected support act, and then some band or other came on and played some songs. They were damn good, you know. Lots of stuff of "Sinister", a scattering of new songs, a couple of "Tigermilk" ("that song is available on Electric Honey Records" said cheeky choirboy Disco Stu), we were introduced to Momma Murdoch. It was like watching a (good) dress rehearsal in some ways, which was fascinating in its own right. Star of the show was undoubtedly Stevie, who appeared to be playing "The Boy with the Arab Strap" entirely on his own as the rest of the band disappeared behind monitors and pianos. They left, we went to the bar (the barman, with a completely unnecessary lack of dignity, was practically begging me to drink), mingled a bit more, digged Andrew Symington's Booty Bouncing Bohemoth beats, and went home "tired...but happy". That's it really. See (some of) you at the weekend. Love, Tagnusson xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Tue Sep 1 18:45:22 1998 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetryplace2) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 18:45:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: mmuuu Message-ID: <199809011742.SAA25966@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* A rather nice review in today's Select magazine, which thanks to the miracle of OCR I can reproduce for you below. There was also a chirpy little interview with Stevie, but I couldnt scan it cos it was in a funny colour. I haven't bothered to proof it because a) it's more fun that way and b) that's all I've been doing since 7am this bastard morning. Love Trousie xxxx BELLE AND SEBASTIAI4 The Boy With The Arab Stiap .IEEPSTER ( Third album from Glasgow eight-piece, following 'Tigermilk' and the acclaimed 'If You're Feeling Sinister; both released in 1996. ( The limited-edition 'Tigermilk' is now worth a small fortune - so much so that Belle And Sebastian guitarist Stevie Jackson recently sold a spare copy for £450. When people use the word 'cult' about bands they usually mean 'desperately unpopular'. In the case of Belle And Sebastian, however, it's entirely appropriate. They rarely play live, refuse to have their picture taken and give interviews about as often as Stanley Kubrick. Yet they recently sold out London's Shepherd's Bush Empire in a day. They also have their fair share of acolytes. Getting a single in the charts may not seem like much these days, but to do it without making a video and still keeping your day jobs? You have to wonder how Embrace would've fared under similar conditions. Here, their perversity is best demonstrated by the fact that right when mainman Stuart Murdoch is on the cusp of being acknowledged as a truly potent songwriter - a kind of cuttingly literate anti-Noel - he lets a handful of compositions be written and sung by three of the band's own Boneheads and Guigsies. And then there's the fact that the title namechecks fellow Caledonians Arab Strap. Belle And Sebastian's preciousness about their music can sometimes verge on the adolescent - the line "Record company man, I won't be coming to dinner"somewhat spoils the sumptuous 'Seymour Stein'. But listening to their third album, you can understand why they wouldn't want to taint music this joyously individual by appearing next to that bearded buffoon on Channel 5's The Pepsi Chart. In the past, Belle And Sebastian seemed to live through their book and record collections, their songs dripping with fairly obvious boho allusions to Bob Dylan and Sylvia Plath. Now they sound genuinely 'For Real' in their plaintiveness. The adolescent dreaming has been replaced by a wistful sense of the disappointments of growing up, like Douglas Coupland's mid-20s breakdown set to music. The album's opening line, sung unaccompanied by a fragile-sounding Murdoch, sets the whole tone: ~He had a stroke at the age of 24/It could have been a brilliant career." And while they've remained in the same musical bracket as Nick Drake and the early Velvets, there's a sense of adventurousness here that fits the lyrical assurance. 'Sleep the Clock Around' is a gentle ode to laziness, rendered dreamlike by mysterious blooping sounds before the unexpectedly welcome arrival of a bagpipe, while the downbeat wall-of-sound pastiche 'Dirty Dream #2' sounds like The Ronettes, albeit with Alan Warner in charge rather than Phil Spector. Elsewhere they manage to move out of their familiar landscape of provincial Scottish youthclubs. 'Chick Factor', named after the US alt-rock uber-'zine and written and sung by guitarist Stevie Jackson, is a homesick letter from America in the same folksy vein as Simon and Garfunkel's 'Homeward Bound'. But even here the aching melancholy is lightened by touches of ribaldry that would make Morrissey proud: "Met a cigarette girl, took a note of her charms/But no cigar." All of which makes you curious as to whether their ambivalent attitudes towards their musical 'career' is a necessary part of their make-up. At one point Stuart murmurs "Anything's better than posh isolation" - having created one of the albums of the year, perhaps now they should move from being a secret society into a fully-fledged religion. mmuuu JOHN MULLEN +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GoFkYrSlfz at xxx.com Tue Sep 1 18:56:14 1998 From: GoFkYrSlfz at xxx.com (GoFkYrSlfz at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:56:14 EDT Subject: Sinister: Fwd: Fwd: FW: [Fwd: FW: FW: Read ASAP!! -Forwarded] Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Matt King Subject: Fwd: FW: [Fwd: FW: FW: Read ASAP!! -Forwarded] Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 09:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Size: 19541 URL: From Scott_Turner at xxx.COM Tue Sep 1 19:16:45 1998 From: Scott_Turner at xxx.COM (Scott Turner) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:16:45 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Fwd: Fwd: FW: [Fwd: FW: FW: Read ASAP!! -Forwarded] Message-ID: <85256672.0063F45F.00@JHMAIL.JH.COM> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Attention Morons, Imbeciles, and other quarter-brained knit-wits: DON'T waste the time of those of us that have brains: don't send your suckerfest chainletters to the LIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! (you should be spanked for believing in that moronic chain letter in the first place) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Tue Sep 1 19:48:14 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:48:14 EDT Subject: Sinister: NME absolutely bloody spot-on shocker Message-ID: <1bc59282.35ec416e@aol.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* I hope this doesn't spoil it for anyone but: NME gave 'The Boy with the Arab Strap' a totally justfied 8/10 under the banner 'Sebastian Coup' (nope me neither). Anyway, it's a big 3/4 page review so I won't type it out now but to summerise, John Mulvey says: 'Belle and Sebastian are a peculiar musical accident, a band who aspire to be underachieving cutie elitests, but who (sic) by virtue of their wise, uncommonly lovely music, find themselves the biggest 'unknown' band in Britain...there is a care and a craftsmanship at work...that leaves almost all their contemporaries for dead.' He then says lots of lovely things about all the tracks, and some bollocks about pearl jam and the levellers being similar in ethos, and ends by asking why Murdoch won't discuss...well, anything ever, and says that it's a bit cowardly to dis Aidan and then not discuss it. It's unarguably one of the best albums of 1998 apparently, which I'd second obviously. Incidently, there's one of those great collages to illustrate the article- with a naked Stuart I think, and Isobel sat on him. Not having seen the cover yet, I can't really comment. Ooh, Scotch Pie and chips....yummy Seb (Oh, I get it, Sebastian Coe= Sebastian Coup. That's truly shit IMHO) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From KimbrJack at xxx.com Tue Sep 1 20:22:35 1998 From: KimbrJack at xxx.com (KimbrJack at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:22:35 EDT Subject: Sinister: disney thing Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* folks this disney thing is a HOAX!!!! dont pay any attention to it!!!! kim +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From donovan at xxx.com Tue Sep 1 21:07:50 1998 From: donovan at xxx.com (donovan finn) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 16:07:50 -0400 Subject: Sinister: US tour Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* I understand that some tentative US dates have been posted here. There are also promoters in a couple cities advertising dates as being confirmed. I just got off the phone with the band's booking agent 5 minutes ago and following are the ONLY CONFIRMED DATES THUS FAR. This is absolutely, positively the most up-to-date info there is. There will be more dates, but this is it so far. 10/21 Boston Photo Resource Center 10/23 Philadelphia Trocadero 10/26 Chicago Metro 11/1 New York, NY Supper Club 11/2 New York, NY Supper Club -donovan/matador recs +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samiamx at xxx.com Tue Sep 1 21:20:45 1998 From: samiamx at xxx.com (Sam Devere) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 13:20:45 PDT Subject: Sinister: South by Southwest, B&S and Pharmacy Message-ID: <19980901202045.28086.qmail@hotmail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Is anyone planning on going to South by Southwest. I heard it was a good time last year and was thinking of going. Pharymacy's jukebox is groovy indeed, I noticed IFYFS right after Pharmacy opened. IFYFS is also in the Fox and Hound jukey thanks to Andy. Sam Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 17:49:24 -0400 From: "Cakuls, Tom" Subject: Sinister: attention DC listees Dear friends The pharmacy bar here in washington will be hosting a party in honor of the US release of The Boy with the Arab Strap, to which all of you are cordially invited. The festivities are scheduled for Monday september 7 and things should get rolling by 9 pm or so. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Tue Sep 1 23:20:49 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 18:20:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: who knows about NY dates? Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* me me me!!! ok, so i don't know that much, but as my fellow sinisterine brian and i went over to tower today to check with the *evil* ticketmaster, we know some. they aren't selling tickets yet. yup, what a wealth of knowledge. then we went to other music where, since i lack any scruples, i'm always willing to ask any number of questions. and was rewarded with the knowledge that the tickets for the 1st and 2nd (or 2nd and 3rd, whichever two dates the shows are on) of november at the supper club in lovable manhatten will be on sale at other music some time next week. ticketmaster will have some too, so if you're far away, you can go by that route. and in ultra exciting news (that i know that rachee will care about) air are going to be doing their first nyc show on october 23!!!!!! tickets go on sale on september 11th at noon. it's 20 bucks, which is a lot, but then again, it's air. so who can argue. and finally, to all you sinisterines who still have shows to go to, buy me souvenirs!!!!! xoxoxo megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LMJ216 at xxx.com Tue Sep 1 23:32:27 1998 From: LMJ216 at xxx.com (LMJ216 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 18:32:27 EDT Subject: Sinister: toronto? Message-ID: <744acc9a.35ec75fb@aol.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* thank you all for the information on the toronto date. i really appreciate it. i will be either going to the boston gig or the toronto one. I remember a while ago someone said that people should wear "my name is" stickers for the picnics or something. Well i think we should do this at the belle and sebastain gigs, so we know who is on the list and meet each other and such. LoveLisa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Gidgette16 at xxx.com Wed Sep 2 04:20:04 1998 From: Gidgette16 at xxx.com (Gidgette16 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 23:20:04 EDT Subject: Sinister: if i may... Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* hello all.... if i may i would like to display a poem that i like for the list to read.... this one is called "meeting at night" by robert browning...a wonderful wonderful poet The grey sea and the long black land; And the yellow half-moon large and low; And they startled little waves that leap In fiery ringlets from their sleep, As i gain the cove with pushing prow, And quench its speed i' the slushy sand. Then a mile of warm sea-scented beach; Three fields to cross till a farm appears; A tap at the pane, the quick sharp scratch And blue spurt of a lighted match, And a voice less loud, through its joys and fears, Than the two hearts beating each to each! i hope you like it...i wanted to put my ab fav poem, "the lady of shalott" or something fabulous from rupert brooke on here but they were all too long....anyhow... lots of love and kisses, shawnie "they danced by the light of the moon, the moon, the moon, they danced by the light of the moon." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MWaggner at xxx.com Wed Sep 2 06:39:46 1998 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 01:39:46 EDT Subject: Sinister: who knows about NY dates? Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Megan and Brian were more fruitful in their information search than I: e-mail to the Supper Club netted the following: Subj: Re: Request for Information Date: 98-09-01 22:32:37 EDT From: Supperclub To: MWaggner iam sorry, but we dont have that information yet. thanks +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aszolnoki at xxx.com Wed Sep 2 08:10:20 1998 From: aszolnoki at xxx.com (Andras Zalan Szolnoki) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 00:10:20 PDT Subject: Sinister: dunno Message-ID: <19980902071020.24086.qmail@hotmail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hello everyone! This is my first letter to sinister and it feels a bit strange to write to so many people . I wonder if anyone knows if (though I`m pretty shure they will , but you never know) B&S are going to play in chilly-oslo or anywhere else here in scandinavia , and when..... and one other thing..............could I get hold of a copy of tigerm....(I hope you haven`t heard this one too many times) and is it true that they are going to release it again???? + are the bbc-sessions available on ANY format???????????? Thanks!! Ciao Szola ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk Wed Sep 2 09:05:44 1998 From: Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk (Sarah Wheeler) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 09:05:44 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: I think I sat next to Stuart M's parents on tuesday Message-ID: <199809020805.JAA23398@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Wow........Monday and Tuesday night's gigs have totally blown me away. I never could have imagined that the band were able to sound as good as they did without loads of production type shenanigans.......aaaah, but now it's back to work. I'm so jealous of everyone who still has the experience to look forward to. Still, can anyone tell me if it's conceivable that I might have sat beside Mick Cooke in Chemistry in first year at Glasgow university (1991-92)??? I'm sure he borrowed my calculator off me, and more recently went out with a girl called Liz..............sheesh, I'm so star-struck. Right, I'm off to try and get over my debilitating crush on Stuart Murdoch.....gawd, I'm so sad......see a bloke who can sing, is funny and remembers 'Runaround' and I'm begging marriage. Byeee Sarah xx ======================= Sarah Wheeler Room 106 West Medical Building University of Glasgow GLASGOW G12 8QQ 0141-339 8855 ext.2860 ======================= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From L.Kerr at xxx.uk Wed Sep 2 15:48:58 1998 From: L.Kerr at xxx.uk (Linda Kerr) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 10:48:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: golfing pants kids. you heard it here first. mmm, yes. Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Heigh ho you lot!! OK, so I'm not Linda! Its Sarah/Fluffy/that silly lil' thing that won't stop posting poo to the list, and I'm using (by some clever technical wizardry no doubt) Lindas mail thingy 'cos......... I SAW BELLE AND SEBASTIAN LAST NIGHT!!! Not that it was one of the most gorgeous and beautiful things I have ever seen (excluding the delightful faces of our list, the glittery dinosaur wearing Honey and the lovely Linda of course...) and my heart was broken and repaired with sellotape in the course of each song or anything.... My gosh, I can't lie, it was absholutely amazing! I mean they actually could PLAY THEIR SONGS (yey! Apart from just a wee hiccup with Isobel but we can let her off 'cos she's cool. Huzzah!) and the effect is... wa-HEY! But in a more subtle understanted and gorgeous way :) And I shook hands with Stuart Murdoch...I can never wash my hand again...oh bugger it I did already last night...ah oh well then. Sadly, I didn't manage to bump into Stephen Pastel, which Keith was gutted at as well.....and also I missed Calumn, who apparently made a big impression on Monday night.... And the venue! It was so fun, it was like a cool youth club thing, we sat on the floor and jus' watched the band play ze blues (and LONELINESS OF A MIDDLE DISTANCE RUNNER!!!!! i thought they'd never play it live, but they did...and it was so beautiful!) Gosh! Them Belles are just so goood! Stuart David smelt of wee, but that was countered for by my special nosepeg which dispells any repellent odours, and er, Sarah, sorry if I pushed you about on the way to the toilet after the gig. Didn't mean to like. And Mick!! What can I say, your fantastic checked golfing pants are just going to be the latest fashion worn by all them "indieP!O!P!" kidz... he's just a dedicated follower of fashion! Ooh happyhappyhappyhappyhappybunny indeed! -- Sarah/Fluffy and Linda but not honey 'cos he's still in bed. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Wed Sep 2 11:18:19 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 11:18:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Maryhill gigs Message-ID: <000301bdd65b$019a2850$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hello people, made it back from my holiday. Too much booze = not good for you. I spent yesterday sitting on a bench in Argyle street bent over double with a dodgy stomach. Anyway, just for the record, here's the songs that were played over the last couple of days. I can't remember the set list as such, but I can remember which songs were played if I move through them chronologically. Was very nice to meet everyone over the course of the couple of days and I look forward very much to meeting more of you in England. The State that I'm In She's Losing it I Don't love Anyone Seeing Other People Get me away from here I'm dying Mayfly The boy done wrong again Judy and the Dream of Horses Dog on Wheels Belle and Sebastian Lazy Line Painter Jane Photo Jenny A Century of Fakers Beautiful It Could've been a Brilliant Career Is it Wicked not to Care A Summer Wasting Seymour Stein Spaceboy Dream Dirty Dream #2 The Boy with the Arab Strap ChickFactor Simple Things The Rollercoaster Ride The Lonliness of the Middle Distance Runner Slow Grafitti The Gate And that's about it I think. If I've missed any out, apologies, best I can do just from memory. Cheers, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Martin_Conneely at finance.irlgov.ie Wed Sep 2 11:25:45 1998 From: Martin_Conneely at finance.irlgov.ie (Martin Conneely) Date: 2 Sep 98 11:25:45 Subject: Sinister: B&S: Dublin/Ireland gig(s) Message-ID: <9809021534.AA0064@mail.irlgov.ie> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* As David Kitchen advised on the list, I enquired from Neil at management about Dublin (and/or Galway) gigs. He told me that Dublin is on the planned gig list, probably in March as part of something special [B&S as Grand Marshals for the St Patrick's day parade?]. Thanks to Mr Trousers for putting the "Select" article on the list. I read it in a shop but didn't feel like buying a full magazine for a half page (especially since I'm so uptodate after obeying a listee's recommendation to buy Uncut*). The photo with the article was great. I haven't seen the album cover yet so maybe that's it . I haven't even heard one song - but Joss, of this list, on his radio show, (which had Looper, Mojave 3, Pernice Bros., etc. last Thursday) felt guilty enough to make an excuse for not having it with him to play. Martin C * which had a strange review of Rufus Wainwright's LP +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From richard.connell at xxx.com Wed Sep 2 14:24:14 1998 From: richard.connell at xxx.com (Richard Connell) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 13:24:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Maryhill gigs In-Reply-To: <000301bdd65b$019a2850$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <2614241302091998/A68735/ADVAX1/11C913580D00*@MHS> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Grrrrr, I'm reallh jealous of all you lucky people who got to see the live shows. If it wasn't for my geographical misfortune, and extreme laziness, i would been there to and got to meet all you lovely people. Oh and got to hear some band or other. This post isn't just about sour grapes though, mainly but not completely. I reaed in todays NME about V-Twin and it reminded me that people on the list keep going on about them. do they have any like with B&S or are they just a good band? Oh well, maybe next tour Cheers, Rich 'bugger' -me +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Calumn.Shearer at xxx.uk Wed Sep 2 13:51:01 1998 From: Calumn.Shearer at xxx.uk (Shearer, Calumn) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 13:51:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Shall we have another Competition? Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* I have finally recovered form the "monday high" I seemed to be suffering... I do, however, now posess a possibly unique piece of b&s memorabilia, an "Arab Strap" poster, signed (natch!) by the band, Some of the List Members (including such *superstar* names as honeypaul , keithy, tag, oon and loads, loads more) I also got the signatures of David, Katrina and Mark from Jeepster, Snow Patrol, Looper, some of the rest of the audience, most of the staff at the hall, and...... Isobel's Aunt (Top Autograph fame hunt!) So, In an amazing moment of magnanamous generosisity, I decided I'd give the thing away to a worthy cause... Hence the Competition.... I sat and thought about how to get rid of the poster, and decided to steal an idea from Radio 1. So, The person that comes up with the story (or poem or whatever) containing the most belle and sebastian song titles (and, if you feel like it like, albums/EP's , but there's no pressure) will be the proud owner of my poster. simple really. just in case you're still lost as to the concept,here are the words you've got to work with.... Song Titles:- Beautiful Belle And Sebastian (The) Boy Done Wrong Again (The) Boy With The Arab Strap (A) Century Of Elvis (A) Century Of Fakers Chickfactor Dirty Dream Number Two Dog On Wheels Ease Your Feet In The Sea Electronic Renaissance Expectations (The) Fox In The Snow Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying I Could Be Dreaming I Don't Love Anyone If You're Feeling Sinister Is It Wicked Not To Care? It Could Have Been A Brilliant Career Judy And The Dream Of Horses Lazy Line Painter Jane Le Pastie De La Bourgeoisie Like Dylan In The Movies Mary Jo Mayfly Me And The Major My Wandering Days Are Over Photo Jenny Put The Book Back On The Shelf (The) Rollercoaster Ride Seeing Other People Seymour Stein She's Losing It Simple Things Sleep The Clock Around (A) Space Boy Dream The Stars Of Track And Field (The) State I Am In String Bean Jean (A) Summer Wasting We Rule The School You Made Me Forget My Dreams You're Just A Baby Extra Songs (Radio Sessions and Stuff) Hurley's Having Dreams Just Another Modern Rock Song London Has Let Me Down Again (The) Loneliness Of A Middle Distance Runner PocketBook Angel Rhoda Slow Graffiti Wrong Love Album and EP titles:- Tigermilk If you're feeling sinister The boy with the arab strap Dog on Wheels Lazy Line painter Jane 3...6...9... Seconds of Light Just make something up using as many of these words as you can, simple really. Silly Rules bit: 1) Marks will be awarded: one mark/reference. 2) The winner will be the deemed to be the person with the most marks (doh!) 3) In the event of a draw, I'll probably give a couple of "bonus marks" for "artistic intent" or something. 4) No-one that currently sleeping with me can win, but since no-one's currently sleeping with me - that's OK. (see rule 8) 5) The Competition will probably close sometime around the end of September, (the 30th, if you'r pressing me for a date!) but If no-one writes in ten I'll get bored and find some other way to give my poster away..... 6) There is NO RULE 6 7) If I say so, then it's true. (in the context of this competition, at least.) 8) ANYONE CAN ENTER. 9) Just in case you didn't get rule 8. - You're best mates girlfriend's brothers, dogs, mates, owners, son can send me an e-mail, and if it's got the most songs - He wins. No catch, No fuss, no Muss, not just for Listees (but it helps;-)) 10) I'll even pay the Postage..... (International, too! - hey sez - you listening?) 11) This is not the same as Chris' Competition. This one has more rules. And his prize is better. How to Enter :- Send me your stories! (doh!) DON'T SEND THEM TO THE LIST!!!! - unless, of course you think that the list'll be interested. But this kinda thing gets wearing after a while (are we _finally_ out of list songs?) and I'll probably appreciate it more. Calumn "whadda you mean *zany*?" Shearer... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koogydelbbog at xxx.com Wed Sep 2 14:02:40 1998 From: koogydelbbog at xxx.com (andrew dean) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 06:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: nme album review Message-ID: <19980902130240.26328.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* hot off the presses... SEBASTiAN COUP BY RIGHTS, of course, they should be failures. Sometimes it seems they'd be happier that way. Check the fuzzy and obscured 'candid' band shots on the cover, or the winsome sleevenotes, or the pervading air of indie sanctimony that ensures they can no longer be even interviewed, or that precious, precious tone of voice. Belle & Sebastian are, in essence, a peculiar musical accident: a band who aspire to be underachieving cutie elitists; but who - by virtue of their wise, uncommonly lovely music - find themselves just about the biggest 'unknown' band in Britain. There is a care and craftsmanship at work on 'The Boy With The Arab Strap', their third album, that leaves almost all their contemporaries for dead "Music which locates an emotional chord largely neglected by the British mainstream since the demise of The Smiths, but is presented with an air of aloofness and/or shyness more suitable to a tiny side project of The Pastels. Such eccentricities can be frustrating, especially vwhen there's a suspicion that B&S's contrived anti-image repels as many potential fans as it attracts and obscures the excellence of pure musical endeavour. For there's a vivid and confident swing to much of 'The Boy With The Arab Strap', as the eight band members lock into intricately layered arrangements or build to graceful and moving crescendos - check the bagpipe-dappled 'Sleep The Clock Around' - with the kind of intuition that recalls prime Tindersticks. It's an album that feels like a true band effort: there's a density of ideas in each song, as if every member felt obliged to add their own cello, or trumpet, or Hammond signature; and, for the first time, Stuart Murdoch cedes songwriting responsibilities on four of the 12 tracks here. Isobel Campbell contributes the lush folk of 'Is It Wicked Not To Care?', and Stuart David expands on his Looper side project with 'A Space Boy Dream', a deadpan narrative on childish astronaut fantasies in the style (if not subject matter) of Arab Strap. Stevie Jackson, meanwhile, opts for lonesome indieboy soul on the brilliant groovin' -on-a-sunny-afternoon-style 'Seymour Stein', a meditation on the trappings of success that habitually blight third albums. Here, again, there's the feeling of a band who'd rather be far less popular, that they're guilty of not failing. At least Stuart Murdoch, still the key to Belle & Sebastian's genius, seems relatively unmoved by such worldly affairs. His lyrical aim remains focused on the tiny triumphs and tragedies of his constituency of misfits, expressed this time with greater poetic resonance and, pleasingly, reduced tweeness. So there is less preoccupation with the trials of adolescence, even if 'A Summer Wasting' -an instant classic that recalls a much spruced-up early Orange Juice - does concern itself with doing nothing in the school holidays occasionally, he touches on the grubbier aspects of post-puberty: "Why is this happening to you, you're not a child?" he ponders in ' Dirty Dream Number Two' , his protagonist half-asleep and stuck to the sheets after dreaming of "a whole lot of fun with a comedian". 'It Could Have Been A Brilliant Career' opens the album with the story of 20-something stroke victims and a sense of awful pathos that transcends natural accusations of heavy-handedness or sentimentality. It's the title track, however, which is the most intriguing, using '70s pop swagger to score a richly detailed tale of the drunk and fashionable in secondhand suits. The character "constantly updating your hit parade of your ten biggest wanks", seems unambiguously to be sometime collaborator and "boy from the Arab strap", Aidan Moffat. What kind of Glaswegian alternative schism is opening up here? Is it a joke? Is the joke on us? For now, it's impossible to say. There's something noble and perversely heartening about the way Belle & Sebastian have become cultishly successful without playing the media game, in much the same way as the Levellers and Pearl Jam's old isolationism had a kind of stubbornly righteous allure. But there's also something fundamentally petty and cowardly about, say, writing a song that appears to trash the singer of another band, then refusing to discuss it openly. 'The Boy With The Arab Strap' is, unarguably, one of the best albums of 1998: it'd be nice to know how it got that way. (8) John Mulvey == andrew dean (koogydelbbog at yahoo.com) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koogydelbbog at xxx.com Wed Sep 2 14:14:37 1998 From: koogydelbbog at xxx.com (andrew dean) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 06:14:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: mm album review Message-ID: <19980902131437.21954.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* NOT entirely unlike your granny giving you a big, dirty French kiss when you were only expecting the customary peck on the cheek. Or finding out your mineral water's actually neat tequila spiked with white spirit and acid. Or reaching down to stroke a cute li'l doggy only to find out it's rabid, hungry and desperate to hump your leg. Too much, just too damn much. It's a "Noooooo! Bob Dylan's gone electric!" album this one, an electric bolt from Belle & Sebastian's previously placid blue lagoon. They've strapped on their guitars, their heavy-duty sweatbands and, quite possibly, their Arab straps, and produced an album that goes some way towards kicking arse. Well, thigh, at least. There's even a lumbering, dance-type thingy, "A Space Boy Dream", all "Starsky & Hutch" funk and Herb Alpert trumpet noodling. Not what we expected. And not exactly what we wanted either, because B&S don't do upbeat quite as well as they think they do. They ram some string- swept Motown euphoria into their pop washing machine on "Dirty Dream Number Two", but it just comes out as a soggy, crumpled version of McAlmont & Butler's "Yes", the faded, washed-out remnants of a song left sludgy and useless in its back pocket. They try their hand at melodious synth pop on the swooping, gobbling "Sleep The Clock Around", but the tune is just left to bob about in their self-conscious musical crocodile tears. By becoming a "real band" this time (instead of a living, breathing backing springing gently from Stuart Murdoch's head), Belle & Sebastian are in danger of losing their treasured identity, that priceless, erotic charm. It's not a disaster - not at all - it's just a shame. When Murdoch is left alone to get on with the poetic butterfly kisses of "It Could Have Been A Brilliant Career", the breezy sigh of "The Rollercoaster Ride" or the wry lyricism of the London-weary title track, the effect is almost unbearably beautiful. At other times (especially on the indulgent, watery songs contributed by his fellow Belles and Sebastians), this is a case of slightly too many bittersweet nothings. ROBIN BRESNARK 3/5 lots more b&s related bits in the papers this week too, v-twin interviews, little looper snippets, stuff like that... koogs == andrew dean (koogydelbbog at yahoo.com) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bug at xxx.uk Wed Sep 2 14:53:00 1998 From: bug at xxx.uk (Emma Short) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 14:53:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: i went walking.. Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980902135300.0067fe34@mail.netkonect.co.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* h'loo all, well, i'm extremely jealous of everyone, seeing as everyone in the entire world except me seems to be going to see the wonderfull belle & sebastian. and i've never seen them live once, even though i love them dearly and would do anything to hear them play their beautifull music in person. but *sigh* it seems it is not to be. i'm stuck at home answering the business line phone for my mum. just spoke to a guy with the most gorgeous scottish accent in the world. had to sound professional and take his adress while my stomach did somersaults and i nearly swooned my way off the chair. does anyone have any idea if there is *any* chance that belle & sebastian would play anywhere near oxford again (pleeease not the zodiac, pleeeease - they do have under eighteen fans, you know..or they could get the zodiac to make it an all-ages show....it's just so unfair that those of us who are sixteen, seventeen..whatever, get barred from hearing the music we love just kos people want to get pissed at gigs)? oh, and thankyou katrina for giving me jon jordan's number - i am now hugging a promo copy of the snow patrol album..*grin* ok i'm going now BYE *bug* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Sep 2 15:05:50 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:05:50 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Gorgeous Birds (RSPB) Message-ID: <01bdd67a$cb46a240$LocalHost@itjfvkli> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* I've seen a kingfisher - three times! It's blue, blue, electric blue on top, and brown, brown, diggidon brown underneath. It's beautiful, man. Can anyone lend me some binoculars? Padraig said: and then funkyseb dropped the cigarette lighter on the passenger seat and burned a big hole in it (naughty funkyseb) but it doesn't matter coz it was a rental. You weren't rolling up a Funkyfag were you, Funkyseb? Colin C said: I saw you all sitting down the front, but I was to shy to say hello. I'm not surprised, Colin. Genevieve said: stuart even says 'wank' which just shattered my image of him..anyways,you better all be dancing when they play dirty dream #2! It merely confirms my image of him as de-frocked vicar on the razzle. Last night I went to the pictures and it was a French film and it was dead good and it was called "Los Amantes del Circulo Polar" and it was very romantic and you should all go and see it 'cos you'd like it. The French people in it are either Spanish or Finnish (always a good sign) or German. There's a bit of wanking in it, but only a bit, not much, and he doesn't spunk up anyway. The youthful protaganist manages to look remarkably similar to both Stephen Pastel and Bobby Gillespie. But not at the same time. I had a look at the Glasgow picnic photos. They are valuable social documents, and the people are extremely attractive, although one or two of you could do with a trip to the barber's shop, young man. Do I want the following LPs? UNKLE - title unknown / Wu Tang Killer Bees / The Best of Junior Byles Thank you, you've been a wonderful audience... Bobby Chariot, MBE. "all our custard creams are trying on overcoats" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sandrad at xxx.com Wed Sep 2 17:46:39 1998 From: sandrad at xxx.com (Sandra Duric) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 12:46:39 -0400 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980902124639.0091a2a0@mail.accu-staff.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* I hate to do this but this is the second time I've tried to send an email directly to Travis in the mid-west and the postmaster is proving to be as reliable as Canada Post!!! So, Travis, when you know, let me know what your plans are for Chicago... Sandra +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nickdastoor at xxx.com Wed Sep 2 17:51:24 1998 From: nickdastoor at xxx.com (Nick Dastoor) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 09:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Anyone want a Nottingham ticket? Message-ID: <19980902165124.23042.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* I've decided I'm not going to the Nottingham show after all. Can't say why - top secret. Anyway - I'll still be going to Leeds but if anyone wants a Nottingham ticket at cost price, mail me by Thursday lunchtime with your postal address and I'll pop it in the post to you right away (and be ever so trusting that you'll send me a cheque). If no one replies, I expect I'll find someone in Leeds to buy it. Or maybe I won't. Who knows. Anyway - I miss you all now I only have half-baked internet access. Nick xxx _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jon.g at xxx.com Wed Sep 2 18:44:19 1998 From: jon.g at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:44:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Nottingham Message-ID: <01bdd699$503f2da0$c33d63c3@dell> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* For those of you that wanted directions, please bare with me - I've been really busy, but I promise I'll send them tomorrow. I was talking to my sister today and she answers the phone and tells people the weather at a surf shop. Anyway, apparently a hurricane is forecast for Saturday, so I don't know about a picnic. I'll get back to you lovely people, jon g. jon.g at btinternet.com - http://surf.to/jongandbethey +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ihamilt at xxx.com Wed Sep 2 19:09:47 1998 From: Ihamilt at xxx.com (Ihamilt at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:09:47 EDT Subject: Sinister: Anyone from Sheffield Message-ID: <370c5c9c.35ed89eb@aol.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hello Is anyone taking a car back to Sheffield after the Nottingham gig? If youa re - do you have room for 2 Scottish Belle and Sebastian kids who are down for the shows and have to get back to Sheffield. If anyone can help, we would be dead greatful andf would obviously help with petrol and Slow Graffiti singalongs etc. Thanks Iain +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TJDICKEY at xxx.com Wed Sep 2 19:29:37 1998 From: TJDICKEY at xxx.com (TJDICKEY at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:29:37 EDT Subject: Sinister: Belle & Sebastian vs Mudhoney Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* I just got off the phone with the Trocadero in Philadelphia. Yes, I have three tickets to that show. But there is a correctiont that needs to be made. The show in Philly is on the 23rd not the 24th. Mudhoney are playing there on the 24th. An good band in their own right but think of all the disappointment if any of you were so looking forward to going to see B&S and saw Mudhoney instead. Anyway, next Tuesday is the day I have been awaiting for months. I work in a record store and cannot wait to get it in. Anyone from New Jersey that is into going to the shows e-mail me privately and maybe we can arrange plans. By the way the Supper Club is not selling tickets for a few weeks. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Scott_Turner at xxx.COM Wed Sep 2 21:27:26 1998 From: Scott_Turner at xxx.COM (Scott Turner) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:27:26 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Belle & Sebastian vs Mudhoney Message-ID: <85256673.00703D2A.00@JHMAIL.JH.COM> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* yip yip yipeeeeeeeeeee!!!!! just reserved my tickets for the troc. .scott (giddy and currently playing with the sliding door in his shiny new cubicle) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From m.wimbury at xxx.uk Wed Sep 2 21:40:21 1998 From: m.wimbury at xxx.uk (MATTHEW WIMBURY) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:40:21 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: A Little Something Message-ID: <199809022040.VAA22692@unixb.lancs.ac.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Well hi all.. I've been on the list for a couple of months but until now have been yet to put in an appearance. I of course am a huge B+S fan, otherwise wouldn't be here. Unfortunately I'm not going to any of the gigs due to a lack of one near where I live and the fact that I'm skint but I'll be expecting comprehensive reports of them on this list. I have everything that's been released so far, and as for the new album I've heard a couple of tracks, my favourite being "It Could Have Been A Brilliant Career" which I can't stop singing to myself. I can't wait for the album, less than a week now! I'd just like to end this first short transmission with a mention for the Bluetones, or at least their first album, which is lovely stuff and shouldn't be lumped in with everything some of you consider to be second rate indie shite because they're not, or at least they weren't. Oh yeah, and I agree that Air and Kid Loco are fantastic as well, and I'd love someone to get in touch if they'd like to tape the Kid Loco album for me. Hang on, I keep thinking of new stuff....about converting people to B+S fans, I keep trying to do it too. Since my ex got me into them about 16 months ago I have converted several people, easiest being my current girlfriend who's French, who spotted their loveliness straight away. I have yet to convert a few more but I'm working on it. However we shall all be aided by the press from now on who seem finally to have leapt upon them with their collective praise at last a couple of years too late. How the NME could give "If You're Feeling Sinister" 4/10 (or was it 3) was totally beyond me...... Anyhow, bye for now.... Matt. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cranbeau at xxx.edu Fri Sep 4 22:01:12 1998 From: cranbeau at xxx.edu (Travis Hibbs) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 16:01:12 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Hello Sandra! Message-ID: <35F05513.16248EFE@ou.edu> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Sandra wrote: I hate to do this but this is the second time I've tried to send an email directly to Travis in the mid-west and the postmaster is proving to be as reliable as Canada Post!!! So, Travis, when you know, let me know what your plans are for Chicago... Sandra Travis says: I have another email account at "travisryan21 at hotmail.com" that you might want to try to send to. My plans for Chicago probably won't solidify until late September... I have one hell of a busy semester, but rest assured i'm doing everything within my power to get to that concert! And should i be posting this to the list? Did i send you a direct email last time? I can't remember... confused mid-west boy travis +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From esincoff at xxx.com Wed Sep 2 22:42:55 1998 From: esincoff at xxx.com (Ethan Sincoff) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 17:42:55 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian in NYC Message-ID: <35EDBBDF.50ABD423@icon.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Anyone going to see them in New York??? I've never seen them before , but have become a big fan! What can I expect? Where are they playing?? Thanks Ethan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From harrypalmer66 at xxx.com Wed Sep 2 23:33:03 1998 From: harrypalmer66 at xxx.com (Richard Hutt) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 15:33:03 PDT Subject: Sinister: goodnight from me Message-ID: <19980902223304.5010.qmail@hotmail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Goodnight sweet list, for I must take my leave. I will miss you all terribly, your words have too frequently offered cultural and emotional succor in a arid and frankly horrid office. Well, my job likes me about as much as I like it, so we have agreed to part, citing only "musical differences." Unfortunately in the ensuing custody battle I have lost the only product of our union that has brought me any joy - the computer, and hence the list. I'll still be checking in from the outside world from time to time, so any "good riddance to bad rubbish" and "where's my god-damned tape you conniving shyster?" ,messages will reach me eventually. Out of interest, so would any "keep your chin up, it's only a job" and "would you like to come back to London and live in Fitzrovia in my empty flat, and make a film about Jeffrey Bernard?" type messages. For my parting summary of matters listish, I would only like to comment on the fact that as much as I love that band that is sometimes mentioned, on the whole the list is at it's best, like all good writing, when it digresses. Please continue to waffle about French films and your holidays and poor train service - in it's way, it says more about B&S than three pages of notes on that flugelhorn solo. I hope to see some of you in the real world sometime. Oh, what am I saying, "real world" - this has at times been much better than that. Love, and a slightly awkward hug Richard P.S. any L.A. types who still want to do the listening party next week email me - Ryan, Raechel, and anyone else who has the nerve to enter a car full of strangers whose only common bond is that band and a desire to drive up PCH listening to the new elpee. P.P.S. if there's any news about West Coast dates, would someone remember to let me know? Although now I'm unemployed, maybe I'll come East....geography experts - which would be the nearest city? Petc. - Andreas the tapes are on their way. I hope you dig the Flat Earth Society. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Wed Sep 2 23:50:45 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:50:45 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: amphibian runaround Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Lots of people have talked about the Maryhill concerts by now, including Fluffy Starry from our kitchen, so I'm not going to go on and rub your wee cute button noses in it. It was dead good though, the only hitch being the lack of Sweet handclaps on The Boy (I don't think they had any hands left). I got only two songs in my entry to Chris's competition. Sarah called Stuart David a smellie wee boy to his face and he didn't punch her. Oon gave the band a lovely Thai picture of two blokes riding chickens in a forest. Linda got called Karen. Stuart Murdoch took us all on a two minute diversion from the stage about "Mike Read's Runaround" (for those not called "Peter Miller" it was a UK kids TV programme in the 80s). He concluded we were all "too young" when we didn't respond to jokes about orange balls. Linda and I coughed a little. In this weeks NEWS spot we have some NEWT NEWS, entirely justified by the on-topic nonsense above. The REAL Sinister babies have arrived - just before yesterday's concert Linda went to clean the newties tank, because it's all green and there are beer cans sprinkled all over the gravel, and she found two little tadpoley things with what appear to be frilly hats. No wonder Thelma and Bob were quiet the other day when we had some Sinisterines looking in - they were *resting*. Because I'm a forlorn romantic, I reckon they were born last Thursday - Sinister birthday day. So, Audrey and Terry, welcome to the list. We had a very Belle and Sebastian moment today in Waterstones on Princes Street, reading about newt mating dances, with Sarah excitedly pointing out the really-rather-rude mating dances and Linda exchanging rude newt anatomical words (e.g. "clacoa"). Oh and if anyone's expecting to buy any decent records in Glasgow in the next 6 months, forget it. After three days' shopping, Oon's got them all in her bag. OK I'm going to post a separate message about wanting two tickets for gigs so you'll all see it. For now I'll leave you with an observation from Sarah - amidst all the B&S reviews and usual ephemera in this week's press (including a cracking artist's impression of Stuart Smirnoff sans knickers), on page 10 of the MM you'll see a "What's It All About" article about... "List Songs". The big lazy gits nicked it from OUR list! There's apparently a lot of your own examples on there. Next week expect "What's It All About... Newt Mating Dances on Mike Read's Runaround". Possibly. honey xxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Wed Sep 2 23:52:48 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:52:48 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Wanted: one ticket each for Nottingham and London Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* No newts or gratituitous 80s TV references - has anyone got a ticket for Nottingham or a ticket for london (standing) they don't need? The Nottingham ticket's for Oon, and Thailand's a long way to come, so it'd be nice if there was one going. Anyway if anyone does, flip me an email? I'll throw in a Trixie's Treasure hairslide in the monetary exchange - how can you resist? 'eard that pardon honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From PedritoF at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 06:07:19 1998 From: PedritoF at xxx.com (PedritoF at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 01:07:19 EDT Subject: Sinister: Belle & Sebastian vs Mudhoney Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* does anyone know if any of the us dates have been confirmed or tickets on sale yet? thanks, +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Thu Sep 3 03:11:48 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe GARNIER) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 09:41:48 +0730 Subject: Sinister: Meeting up in London Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hi all ! I will fly from France to London on saturday morning for the London gig (monday). Could some of you (Katrina, David ?) tell me when and where you will meet up before or after this gig. As I will not be able to check my e-mail after friday evening, I would very appreciate if you could give me those informations before i leave my beautiful country. I will not have mau things to do in london during 3 days, except buying 54 TBWTAS albums for some friend of mine, and finding 235.245 arab straps for some other friend. So I you want to meet a french listee during the weekend, and if you dont want him to be lost alone in the town like a poor lonesome sinisteree, dont hesitate to contact me also. We could talk together about french wine, french cheese, french football, french president (dont smile please)... but if you prefere Belle & Sebastian it is really not a problem for me. Philippe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From richard.connell at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 09:47:15 1998 From: richard.connell at xxx.com (Richard Connell) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 08:47:15 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Gorgeous Birds (RSPB) In-Reply-To: <01bdd67a$cb46a240$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Message-ID: <8415470803091998/A74035/ADVAX1/11C91A2F0E00*@MHS> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* PJMiller wrote: > do i want the following albums: Unkle - unknown Psience Ficion by Unkle, as i've been telling anyone whole listen is a brilliant album. Not quite as good as DJ Shadow's solo album but close. The collaborations with Richard Ashcroft, Thom Yorke, Badly Drawn Boy (my favourite at the moment) really work well and give each track its own identity, but all still sounding like an album rather than a greatest hits package. I think its quite good, in case you hadn't noticed Cheers, Rich +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gmckay at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 08:56:08 1998 From: gmckay at xxx.com (Gillian McKay) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 08:56:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: set lists Message-ID: <35EE4B98.4F55@roisin.ayo.dec.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* hi everyone, i went to the monday night gig and thought it was great (too shy to talk to anyone i'm afraid!). i'm just wondering if someone could post the set lists for both nights - reading keith's mail earlier it seems like the tuesday night gig lasted longer and they played some better songs (in my opinion). i'm starting to get very down at the thought of this so can someone please ensure me that the best night was monday? please?? sorrry to all those folks that aren't getting the cahnce to see any gigs, moaning about going must seem really bitchy! i'm sure the chance will come for everyone eventually even if it's when they sell out and appear on TOTP every other week! only kidding!! gillian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koogydelbbog at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 09:21:28 1998 From: koogydelbbog at xxx.com (andrew dean) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 01:21:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: planet of sound album review Message-ID: <19980903082128.10421.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* The poetic Scots' last two albums veered between genius and dubious, and this, with songs written and performed by various members, is equally mixed. Highlights: the title track, a glorious handclap-ridden romp, Dirty Dream #2's orchestral sweep, Isobel's fey, folksy Is It Wicked? and the uber-B&S opener. The expected musical nods are made to Dylan, Simon and Garfunkel, Charlie Brown and Arab Strap but lyrically this LP is less inspired than previous releases. Wither the Modern Rock Song EP? 3 (out of 5 or, maybe, out of 4? i can't remember. 3 anyway) stephen eastwood, planet of sound, ch4 teletext p480 == andrew dean (koogydelbbog at yahoo.com) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Thu Sep 3 11:10:50 1998 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Dr C.B.Stride) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:10:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Leeds gig location / mice Message-ID: <11EA54505AA9@woodhead.shef.ac.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* ....yeah, I know this is lazy and I've probably deleted an email answering this question several times, but can anyone tell me a) The name of the road Leeds Variety Theatre is on. b) Vague directions from the centre of Leeds/Leeds station c) Door times for the gig Cheers Chris PS: to the girl with the mouse, have you seen it again since its recovery and release, or has its brief spell of domestication not had a lasting impact!? C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk *** daytime: 0114 2223262 *** *** FAX: 0114 2727206 *** *** evening: 0114 2306539 *** "Watford FC Supporters - South Yorkshire branch" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Sep 2 18:56:00 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 19:56:00 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Mrs. Murdoch! Message-ID: <01bdd69a$f17c3a40$LocalHost@itjfvkli> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* It's been great fun reading about everyone's adventures in Maryhill. However, one thing has been playing on my mind. Some of you mentioned having seen Stuart's mum. What about his dad? And that gay brother? What was his mum like? Did she look as if she knew what an arab strap is? What did she say to you all? Did she remind you of that woman from the Flash advert? I await the Exxon Valdez of bean spillages with basted breasts... Pedro Molinero +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From padraic_fresheire at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 11:18:34 1998 From: padraic_fresheire at xxx.com (padraic doorey) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 03:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: the supper club looks rad! Message-ID: <19980903101834.24791.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* hey check out the NY venue! it looks *fabu*, non? http://www.thesupperclub.com lady penelope (sans tiara) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Thu Sep 3 11:32:39 1998 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins, Tim) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:32:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Leeds gig location Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Chris wrote: > ....yeah, I know this is lazy and I've probably deleted an email > answering this question several times, but can anyone tell me > a) The name of the road Leeds Variety Theatre is on. > b) Vague directions from the centre of Leeds/Leeds station > c) Door times for the gig > The City Varieties has two entrances: one off Briggate (Swan Street) and one on The Headrow. According to their website, it is the one off Briggate that is in use at present. The directions that follow are for people walking. I have no idea about the complexities of the one way system and spreadign pedestrianisation of the centre of Leeds. Happily. >From the railway station: Turn left out of the main doors of the railway station and walk up to the corner of City Square. Turn right along Boar Lane, and wander along there for a couple of hunderd yards, until you see McDonalds on your left. McDonalds is on the corner of Boar Lane and Briggate. Turn left up Briggate. Swan Street (which as I remember is less a street than a little alleyway, but I might be wrong) goes left off Briggate as you walk up the hill, by the side of Peel the Chemist. If you're coming from the north of town, find the St John's shopping centre. Remember to have a look at the sometimes excellent Jumbo Records while you're there. From St John's go into Dortmund Square, which is a little pedestrian square with a statue of a fat fellow holding a barrel. I like him. At the opposite end of the square from the St John's Centre is The Headrow. Turn left down the Headrow, and take the second right into Briggate. Going down the hill, Swan Street is a little way dowwn on your left, next (funnily enough) to Peels the Chemist. Anyway, you don't have to take my word on it. Look at their website: http://www.leeds.gov.uk/CityVarieties they have included a picture of a group of people I can only assume to be Belle and Sebastian on their front page. Doesn't Stu M look happy at the front there? And that furry fellow in the hat, that'll be Stuart D, yes? Or perhaps he's the one in the stripes and the green hat? Meet up pub suggestions will follow later today, from me or someone else. I don't know about door times, but it should say on your ticket? I hope that helps. Tim P.S.: 2 things for Mister Miller... first, Echo and the Bunnymen were never the same once they *got* a proper drummer... second, which Junior Byles best of is it? I've never heard a bad Junior B record, and can particularly recommend his work with Scratch, Niney and with Channel One. I haven't heard the new Blood and Fire release (partly) by him. Anything with 'Curly Locks' and 'The Long Way' on is a sure fire smash. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bug at xxx.uk Thu Sep 3 12:22:18 1998 From: bug at xxx.uk (Emma Short) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 12:22:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Gorgeous Birds (RSPB) Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980903112218.006654b0@mail.netkonect.co.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* >Psience Ficion by Unkle, as i've been telling anyone whole listen is a >brilliant album. Not quite as good as DJ Shadow's solo album but close. The >collaborations with Richard Ashcroft, Thom Yorke, Badly Drawn Boy (my favourite >at the moment) really work well and give each track its own identity, but all >still sounding like an album rather than a greatest hits package. > >I think its quite good, in case you hadn't noticed yey! a wonderfull album, i have to agree with you rich. and the richard ashcroft, thom yorke and badly drawn boy tracks are all my favourites as well, although i am drawn to the mike d track as well (but maybe that's only kos i'm on a beastie boys high after reading..hmmm). oh, and i've managed to get about seven song titles into my story fr chris' competition so far.. i *need* that poster! going am i now BYE *bug* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paulf at xxx.uk Thu Sep 3 13:42:32 1998 From: paulf at xxx.uk (Paul Forsyth) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:42:32 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Subject: Sinister: Leeds/Nottingham gig Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hiya, I'm in two minds about whether togo to the Nottingham gig following tomorrows Leeds gig. An awful thought I know but in Hyde Park (the student area of Leeds near the Uni) there is a festival on called Unity Day, which is a day packed with tons of local bands (some are v good) plus loads of other stuff. If anyone is still around after the Friday gig it is worth heading to. But that leaves me with a Nottingham ticket. If anyone is interested and is going to the Leeds gig I can sort it out then. Or before if people rush...! On the other hand I may go...umming and awwing at the mo. Cheers, Paul _______________________________ / \ Paul Forsyth | e.paulf at scs.leeds.ac.uk | Computer Science | w.www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/paulf | University Of Leeds | p.+44-113-233-5480 or 233-6827 | Leeds LS2 9JT \_______________________________/ United Kingdom +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From d.barker at xxx.uk Thu Sep 3 14:02:11 1998 From: d.barker at xxx.uk (Cassell Professional Publishing) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1998 14:02:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Warning: Rude word contained within... Message-ID: <0003022df4b3$76a9d3c0$7b65e4d4@server> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Oh god it's grim being back at work after my little trip to Glasgow. It was nice to meet some of you there: hi to Chris and Julia and Honey and Linda and Calum and Keith and Tim and of course the lovely Oon. I hate to be a dissenting voice but I didn't think Monday's show was that great. The quiet songs were amazing, particularly The Boy Done Wrong Again, which was the best thing I've ever seen them do. But what's the point in doing Arab Strap without the handclaps (as Honey pointed out)? Sarah and Isobel stood giggling in the corner with their recorders - they should have been clapping till the skin peeled off the palms of their hands. And what's the point in playing Judy and the Dream if you don't really go for it at the end? I guess they were all being a bit cautious... I'll shut up about it now. You know how on old live albums from the sixties, whenever a band plays a good song, the crowd applauds with recognition about ten seconds into it? They do it on Stars in their Eyes as well. I think this would be something worth bringing back for the London show. Any takers? Went to see Jonathan Coe do a reading last night, and I'm still faint with excitement. The man is a god. He read an absolutely hysterical bit from the House of Sleep, which finished with the immortal line: - I put it to you, Doctor Myers, that your cunt is on fire. Very funny indeed. We got to chat to him at the end, and he's just so cool! Anyway, back to the business books. See you all on Saturday or Monday. Love, DAVID +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From k.brunskill at xxx.uk Thu Sep 3 14:09:29 1998 From: k.brunskill at xxx.uk (Kate L Brunskill) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:09:29 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: test Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* test +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From emason at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 14:45:12 1998 From: emason at xxx.com (Ed Mason) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:45:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Leeds Gig Meetups Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980903144512.006bc33c@mail.u-net.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Having spoken to a few people about a Leeds pre-gig meetup, the consensus is the Whitelocks pub, which is the best nearest watering hole to the venue. The directions are below, courtesy of Mr Timothy Hopkins. (There's a bit of duplication with directions for the venue posted earlier, but this way I guess you get them all in one place...) It's about 2 minutes walk from the City Varieties and easy to find. I guess people will start turning up about 5pmish. Tim, myself and a few others will be there about 6pm. The doors for the gig are at 7.30pm. I've also sorted out a discount for post-gig clubbing shennanigans at Brighton Beach. The usual entrance price is £5, but people who have been to the gig can get in for £4. They'll have to show their gig ticket, which I'm guessing people will still have. It's open 11pm-4am. Again, directions below. If anyone wants any more info, e.g. for record shops or anything else then feel free to mail me privately. Oh, I'm so excited. See you all there, Ed (p.s. I know a couple of people with spare tickets for the Leeds gig and possibly for London, mail me if anyone still needs one). For Whitelocks; Turn left out of the railway station and walk up to the corner of City Square. Turn right along Boar Lane, and wander along there for a couple of hundred yards, until you see McDonalds on your left. Mcdonalds is on the corner of Boar Lane and Briggate. Turn left up Briggate. The Whitelocks is in an alleyway on the left as you walk up the Hill, opposite Debenhams. The Whitelocks is the only thing in the alley. There is a sign outside the pub, which says 'Whitelocks'. If you're coming from the other side of town, find the St John's shopping centre. Remember to have a look at the sometimes excellent Jumbo Records while you're there. From St John's go into Dortmund Square, which is a little pedestrian square with a statue of a fat fellow holdng a barrel. at the opposite end of the square from the St John's Centre is the Headrow. Turn left down the headrow, and take the second right into Briggate. Going down the hill, the Whitelocks is in an alleyway on the right, opposite Debenhams. The Whitelocks is the only thing in the alley. There is a sign outside the pub, which says 'Whitelocks'. Avoid a pub called 'The Ship' which is also up an alleyway on the same street. It's a bit rough. To get to the venue from the Whitelocks, leave the Whitelocks and turn left up Briggate. The City Varieties is in a little street off Briggate called Swan Street. It's a little way up the hill from The Whitelocks on the same side of the road. If you get as far as The Odeon Cinema, you've gone too far. Brighton Beach; Brighton Beach is at the Cockpit, on 'Swinegate' 2 rooms of music, 1 indie/sixties, 1 northern soul/rare sixties etc. To get to it from the venue, turn out of Swan Street on to The Briggate. Turn right down the Briggate until you come to McDonalds. Turn Right along Boar Lane and walk along to the train station. Turn left at the road before the station and follow the road around to the left, club is next to pub called The Rocket. It's about 5-10 mins walk from City Varieties. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mphintz at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 14:47:48 1998 From: Mphintz at xxx.com (Mphintz at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 09:47:48 EDT Subject: Sinister: NYC Picnic Sept. 20 Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Things are progressing here in the New York City area with plans for the picnic. Last time I sent an email to the list about it, we had only a date--now there is a time and place too. It's called progression, and we shouldn't be afraid of it. Date: September 20, 1998 Time: 2 pm. Place: Tompkins Square Park An email about meeting place, food, rain plans, etc. will be sent as we get closer to the picnic date. It should go without saying that everyone is invited. :-) Living and loving Matthew +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JohnJ at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 14:54:42 1998 From: JohnJ at xxx.com (John Johnston) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:54:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Our name is legion Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Just done one of those purity test thingies - I scored 13 which according to the computer meant I was "too pure for the church." I'd like to think that was a pithy observation about the corrupt nature of organised religion but I think they were alluding to the fact that I never do anything naughty. OOOh the clock's ticking away until I see B&S on Monday!! Looking forward to seeing lots of other indie-schmindie bedroom saddoes before and afterwards. I shall be organising an air stylophone contest during Mayfly if I can get a worthy prize together.(I don't think we appreciate how lucky we are on this list with the fabulous prizes on offer. Stop what you are doing and clap your hands in appreciation for our generous Benefactors Chris and Calumn.) Were any plans made for after the show on Monday night - I'm in a crazy kind of stay-out-late-on-a-school-night kind of mood that could even see my (im)purity score rocket to maybe 15! Off to see the Jurassic 5 tonight which should be great. I'm sure there'll be a phat one rollin' in that area tonight daddio - or something like that. Have a toppermost-of-the-poppermost time, all of you people going to Leeds and Notts. Love to love ya baby Johnny J PS Great to hear Jonathan Coe's name mentioned - "What a Carve Up" was a fab book. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bluvelour at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 15:51:38 1998 From: Bluvelour at xxx.com (Bluvelour at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:51:38 EDT Subject: Sinister: belle in boston Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* so my boyfriend's mommy was put on a mission by him to get us two tickets to belle and sebastian's show in boston, but she did a scatterbrianed mommy thing and got us two tickets to mudhoney. you'll all be happy to hear that everything is all corrected now, except for some transportation arrangements i have to work out. but i've got the time... and i'm pretty excited. i'd like to recieve e-mail from others who are going to that show.. xo, cindy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ciflux at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 16:10:15 1998 From: Ciflux at xxx.com (Ciflux at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:10:15 EDT Subject: Sinister: nyc picnic! and other fun events that weekend Message-ID: <3f1ac842.35eeb157@aol.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Can I just say I'm excited at the prospect of a proper Belle & Sebastian picnic in NYC? I've missed both previous attempts. I will certainly be there, hopefully with my wonderful fiancee (and fellow seldom-posting Sinister listmember) Callie. We've been in both a picnicking mood *and* a Belle & Sebastian mood lately. If you're looking to make a weekend of it, please note that Ed and Jill of Shelflife Records are having a show/party at their Brooklyn apartment on the 19th. The show is called "September Set" and will feature 8 bands, including Poundsign, Aisler's Set, Lucksmiths, the I Live The Life Of A Movie Star Secret Hideout, and more that I can't remember off the top of my head. The festivities start at 3 pm that afternoon, it's cheap to get in, and all ages will be admitted. Check www.shelflife.com for more info. I always feel pressure to be chatty and a bit wistful on the rare occasion that I have to post to Sinister. I guess I'll just get back to work, then... mike appelstein ciflux at aol.com http://members.aol.com/ciflux +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r.whittome at xxx.uk Thu Sep 3 16:17:32 1998 From: r.whittome at xxx.uk (Richard W Whittome) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:17:32 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Shepherds bush tickets Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Dear friends I am your fairy godmother.I have two tickets for monday night going for 12 pounds each (face value and booking fee)I would be using them my self but for a balls up.All I ask is that you give me a ring on )0171-780-9455 after 7pm Thursday or 6pm Friday or anytime saturday and you have to be prepared to travel to whitechapel to fetch them.Everyone else have a great night! Ask for Rich +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From janine at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 17:52:58 1998 From: janine at xxx.com (Janine Papp) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:52:58 -0500 Subject: Sinister: feeding frenzy Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* I am also excited about the upcoming nyc picnic and I have been in an absolute frenzy about the nyc shows. Now, out of curiosity, I ask again: what happened at the last nyc B&S picnic in Central Park? Does anyone remember how I said I went and couldn't find anyone? The only reply I received was a resounding silence. Hmmm. Now for this picnic I promise to be on time. And I think we should all wear identifying something or others to the picnic and the shows. Like we could each wear a daisy or something. or, we could write SINISTER on our faces with black magic marker. I'm only kidding here, of course. I think. now the part of general interest to people in other parts of the world (well, perhaps not really): I got one of those store display thingies (known as a flat) of TBWTAS cover art. yeah! I am proudly displaying it right now. queen bee janine +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mick at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 16:51:35 1998 From: mick at xxx.com (Mick McMick) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:51:35 -0400 Subject: Sinister: nyc picnic! and other fun events that weekend References: <3f1ac842.35eeb157@aol.com> Message-ID: <35EEBB07.C69930F7@indiepop.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Ciflux at aol.com wrote: > Can I just say I'm excited at the prospect of a proper Belle & > Sebastian picnic in NYC? I've missed both previous attempts. I will > certainly be there, hopefully with my wonderful fiancee (and fellow > seldom-posting Sinister listmember) Callie. We've been in both a > picnicking mood *and* a Belle & Sebastian mood lately. Heh, I think I'll be there! I had kind of assumed I'd never make it to a picnic, but as luck would have I'll be there instead of in Ohio... Hooray for picnics! Too bad I can't bake some cookies or something... > If you're looking to make a weekend of it, please note that Ed and > Jill of Shelflife Records are having a show/party at their Brooklyn > apartment on the 19th. The show is called "September Set" and will > feature 8 bands, including Poundsign, Aisler's Set, Lucksmiths, the I > Live The Life Of A Movie Star Secret Hideout, and more that I can't > > remember off the top of my head. You've forgotten the Still (ex-Ropers), Monterey, and most importantly, the Fairways, who are very big Belle & Sebastian fans themselves. Very fondly do I recall visiting Brent Fairway in San Francisco, and singing songs from Sinister with him and my travelmates. Hehe, he was the only one who knew the words to all the second verses ;) The rest of us need the lyric sheet *blush*. Anyway, I haven't seen them with a full lineup, but they have many wonderful songs, and they did record a B&S cover, even though we'll probably never get to hear it... So, maybe they'll do it live, who knows. I'm hoping they cover the Field Mice this time around too... /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - mick at indiepop.com - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - sandcastlerecords at indiepop.com | | Sandcastle Homepage - http://indiepop.com/sandcastle/ | | | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From esincoff at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 17:05:05 1998 From: esincoff at xxx.com (Ethan Sincoff) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 12:05:05 -0400 Subject: Sinister: NYC Picnic info Message-ID: <35EEBE31.A97CECD2@icon.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* so gang Who is actually running this thang? Do we have a breakdown of who is showing up? Do we need to bring anything??? Will Alcohol be involved?? :-) see ya Ethan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 17:39:01 1998 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:39:01 EDT Subject: Sinister: new CD finally here and early in stock Message-ID: <52a67063.35eec625@aol.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* We finally got our shipment yesterday. I'm sure the distributor wanted to get them to us before the long Labor Day weekend and lo and behold: no vinyl in the box. We did get the CD of course of which I purchased one and listened to many many times last evening. I think this record may even be more versatile than the last. Nice green cover booklet with the great lyrics printed again. Perhaps we shouldn't have put the disc out since it is not available till Tuesday here in the states but we've sold used promos since a month ago so...oh well. Pete +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Laurel_Girvan at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 18:47:22 1998 From: Laurel_Girvan at xxx.com (Laurel Girvan) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 98 12:47:22 EST Subject: Sinister: mmuuu Message-ID: <9808039048.AA904852503@cclink.hholt.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* how many times are we going to get trousie poo's review posted? or hasn't it been the same one and i just haven't noticed... anyway, who's stanley kubrick? love you all you hoppity kiddies, even the nasty putrid brit show-goers (no bitterness here, of course). laurel xxxxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jon.g at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 17:57:49 1998 From: jon.g at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:57:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Nottingham Message-ID: <01bdd75b$fb65f200$LocalHost@dell> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* OK, kids, here are the directions I promised: For Hannah, coming from Northampton: 1 - Join the M1. You'll be junction 15, 15a or 16 I think. I'm presuming you know how to get here. 2 - Carry on until you get to junction 25, at which point leave the motorway. 3 - You need to join the A52 Stapleford Bypass going eastwards. You've just been going north, so it's the third turnoff. 4 - At the first roundabout you come to, go straight accross to carry on along the A52. 5 - At the next roundabout, go straight across again to stay on the A52 - it's now called Derby road, but it's still the A52. 6 - At the next roundabout, go straight across again to stay on the A52 - Derby road. 7 - At the next roundabout, go straight across again to stay on Derby Road - it's now called the A6200 8 - You're almost there - Lenton Boulevard is the 9th or 10th (I can't see on the map) turning on the road after the roundabout. It's the first yellow one after the roundabout, so it'll probably look vaguely important and also signposted as the A6130. You can go left or right - it's still Lenton Boulevard. 9 - I don't know where the Marcus Garvey centre is, so you'll have to find it yourself. I decided it would be easier if you saw a map of it, and even though it's really naughty, I put a bit of the map at http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/map.jpg to help you all. Ok - that's it. It's probably not the quickest way, but I think it'll be the easiest. If anyone else wants directions from somewhere else, just mail me. I'm still unsure about the picnic - it won't be much fun in a hurricane. If you would like to come along and meet people and eat pork pies somewhere before the gig, mail me and I'll see if I can sort something out. See you in Nottingham? Here's how to spot me and bethey: I will be young, about 16 I would say with brown hair and wearing flared corduroy trousers. bethey will also be young, about 15 and a lot shorter than me (she's not very tall at all!). She has short brown hair also. See you, all you need is love, kids, jon g. jon.g at btinternet.com - http://surf.to.jongandbethey +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TWidmer at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 18:15:41 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:15:41 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Boston tickets, you said? Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF032766A0@amerwksnt01.xil.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* <> So Cindy darling, this means you have *Boston* B&S tickets already??? All I can dig up online are tickets for Jackie Mason and Riverdance, which is no help...unless the band have joined the celtic line dancing troupe??? no? Oh but what a show that would be! What is the name of the venue? Did mommy get the tickets through an agency like ticketmaster? or did she purchase them thru the venue direct? C'mon now, spit it out, the people need to know!! tata, tara +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vanessa.figueras at xxx.se Thu Sep 3 19:12:22 1998 From: vanessa.figueras at xxx.se (Vanessa Figueras) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 20:12:22 +0200 Subject: Sinister: mmuuu References: <9808039048.AA904852503@cclink.hholt.com> Message-ID: <35EEDC06.CE5021C@swipnet.se> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* isn't he the director of "Clockwork Orange" and "Acopalypso Now"? Laurel Girvan wrote: > *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > > how many times are we going to get trousie poo's review posted? or > hasn't it been the same one and i just haven't noticed... > > anyway, who's stanley kubrick? > > love you all you hoppity kiddies, even the nasty putrid brit > show-goers (no bitterness here, of course). > > laurel > xxxxxx > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From biondino at xxx.com Tue Sep 1 12:23:42 1998 From: biondino at xxx.com (Eddie Santini out of "The Bill") Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 04:23:42 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Ranting on about London again... Message-ID: <35EBD93E.24F4@dial.pipex.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hello you all, As coincidence would have it, little Nickie Dastoor, who I haven't sexually harassed for, ooh, weeks now, has spookily reappeared in a murky corner of my life, so I thought I'd just let it be known in front of you all that even the fates (and the long arm of the law) can't keep us apart, Nickie! You'll be pleased to hear I'm now on remand, and that restraining order ain't worth the paper it's written on... Shame the "wearing name badges for the gigs" idea never came to fruition - I expect I'm going to be wandering about West London in a loved-up daze, introducing myself to people regardless, and hoping that they're not going to smack me in the mouth (hiya Fluffy!) but instead (hypothetically) embrace me in the all-conquering love of the Belle and the Sebastians experience. I can't wait!!! There are already several of us intending to move into the Shepherds Bush area dead early - am I assuming that the soulless but convenient Firkin pub next door is the best place to meet? Unless it's a lovely day, in which case it has to be the green outside the pub, surely? Anyway, is anyone specifically organising anything, or is it just a turn up when you can thing? Suits me either way - but do try and come as early as you can, cos from 4 or so onwards the beer'll be flowing, we'll be getting the verses the wrong way round in "The State I am in" (you know who you are...) and conversations of chord changes and poetry will be supplanted by an all-encompassing state of Feeling Like Heaven. Yes they will! God, how exciting is this? I don't half envy those who have already experienced the joy, especially the lucky beggars going for the straight flush, but there's something kind of nice about it being a one off (does that sound convincing? No, didn't think so). Oh, and one other thing - if someone does respond to a previous query and post the track listings from previous concerts, could you make it known in the header as I don't want to have a clue what might or might not be played - it's my version of refusing to hear the songs on the radio, I suppose. Thank you very much. I can't believe what the Melody Maker said about Dirty Dream. Why oh why? Okay, it does sound a bit like McAlmont and Bernie, but so, so much better...And I wouldn't exactly call A Summer Wasting an "instant classic" - I reckon it sounds a bit like the Levellers near the end... But I've talked too much (no kidding?), so I'll see a thousand of you on Monday... Groovy love, Mark xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tangent at xxx.net Thu Sep 3 19:19:41 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 19:19:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: unkle: pish (official) plus belle says hello to salako References: <8415470803091998/A74035/ADVAX1/11C91A2F0E00*@MHS> Message-ID: <35EEDDBD.13EB7583@lineone.net> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > > *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > > PJMiller wrote: > > > do i want the following albums: Unkle - unknown didn't see that first time around, sorry for neglecting you mr miller. Um, well don't believe the hype. it's pish. if you want my scathing review it's up on tan right now. as is the cock fun doo dah. see, b&s content. the duke. oh yeah, and at school today i was playing the salako record in my class whilst i wasn't teaching and isobel (not that isobel) came into use my chopper (oo-er), and asked who it was. she then said 'it's nice to meet you salako'. i thought you'd like to know that. later i played the new belle record but no-one was around. -- 'all of our dreams are dying of overdoses' Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mneimark at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 19:23:08 1998 From: mneimark at xxx.com (Matthew Neimark) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:23:08 PDT Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian Message-ID: <19980903182309.13082.qmail@hotmail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Folks: I just bought my tickets to the Boston show. It will be Wednesday Oct. 21 at the Morse Auditorium (Boston University's main Auditorium). Tickets are bought through the middle east: Call (617)864-EAST They are 15 bucks each. You can buy them with your credit card. Strawberries are also selling tickets. Unfortunately, I've seen a show here (the future bible heroes) and the accoustics in this room ar TERRIBLE. Thus, I'd like to see them two days later in Philly too. Matt ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bcw4977 at xxx.edu Thu Sep 3 19:32:00 1998 From: bcw4977 at xxx.edu (brian) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:32:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: "CD early in stock" / NY PICNIC In-Reply-To: <52a67063.35eec625@aol.com> Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* On Thu, 3 Sep 1998 OLDSCHREC at aol.com wrote: > Perhaps we shouldn't have put the disc out since it is not available till > Tuesday here in the states but we've sold used promos since a month ago > so...oh well. Are you just mental? Do you not realize that the record company reads this list? I bet they're psyched to hear you're jumping the gun on the release date. although i don't think anyone cares about the promo bit. *** Anyway, on to nicer things. like, for instance, the new york picnic. matthew (mphintz at aol.com), who has taken up the mantle of picnic impresario, hasn't planned much beyond the date just yet, although tompkins square is still looking like the spot despite racheee's protests for riverside. Anybody have objections? I know there are lots of homeless people there but we can scare them away with our pasty librarian-esque countenances. And at least it will be downtown, near, you know, most of the belle and sebastian fans, yet far away from the dopy ravers playing hacky sack at washington square. the suggested time was 2pm, but it's hardly set in stone. oh and yes everyone should bring food and drinks and snacks and perhaps face paints so we can dress up like circus animals. the day is rife with possibility. especially since it seems like people might be showing up this time! and if for some odd reason this is anyone's first notice of the picnic, the date is sunday, september 20th, right after ed's fabulous Saturday September Set in brooklyn. oh, and janine -- i was up at sheep's meadow on that ill fated day too and didn't see a soul. very, very suspicious. one for unsolved mysteries i suppose. la la la brian bcw4977 at is2.nyu.edu / bcwinters at aol.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sandrad at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 19:35:33 1998 From: sandrad at xxx.com (Sandra Duric) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:35:33 -0400 Subject: Sinister: mmuuu In-Reply-To: <35EEDC06.CE5021C@swipnet.se> References: <9808039048.AA904852503@cclink.hholt.com> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980903143533.0091e100@mail.accu-staff.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Yea, I believe he is... Forgive me I haven't been paying complete attention to list chatter, but are we talking about his new film "Eyes Wide Shut" with Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise? I saw High Art last night - lots of heroin/es. It was actually OK. sandra At 08:12 PM 9/3/98 +0200, Vanessa Figueras wrote: > > *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > >isn't he the director of "Clockwork Orange" and "Acopalypso Now"? > >Laurel Girvan wrote: > >> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* >> >> how many times are we going to get trousie poo's review posted? or >> hasn't it been the same one and i just haven't noticed... >> >> anyway, who's stanley kubrick? >> >> love you all you hoppity kiddies, even the nasty putrid brit >> show-goers (no bitterness here, of course). >> >> laurel >> xxxxxx >> >> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ >> To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe >> send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to >> "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, >> FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >> +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ >> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From james at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 19:38:47 1998 From: james at xxx.com (J Errington) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 19:38:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: A Call. Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Sorry to briefly clog up your list (by the way, I wasn't trying to be anon. with that story, it was just me forgeting to change the user) but I'd like to ask if there are any fanzine editors hanging around the list. You can never have enough contacts, y'know. We could exchange 'zines and flyers. Maybe even articles. Yeah, that's enough - e-mail ME for more than that. 3.The country and western swagger-stomp of Plastic Cowboy. 4.Myra Hindley's real crime was LOVE (plus killing kids). 5.Who are the Walt Disney Murder Club? james at twopounds.u-net.com http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Cabaret/5523/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grabutcho at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 19:49:59 1998 From: grabutcho at xxx.com (Julien Boëldieu) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: mmuuu Message-ID: <19980903184959.15891.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* No, it's francis Ford coppola that has directed "Apocalypse now". Kubrik has directed "Clockwork orange", "Doctor Strangelove", "Full metal jacket", "Shining" and many more. French kisses to everyone Julien Sandra Duric wrote: > > > *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > > Yea, I believe he is... Forgive me I haven't been paying complete attention > to list chatter, but are we talking about his new film "Eyes Wide Shut" > with Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise? > > I saw High Art last night - lots of heroin/es. It was actually OK. > > sandra > > At 08:12 PM 9/3/98 +0200, Vanessa Figueras wrote: > > > > *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > > > >isn't he the director of "Clockwork Orange" and "Acopalypso Now"? > > > >Laurel Girvan wrote: > > > >> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > >> > >> how many times are we going to get trousie poo's review posted? or > >> hasn't it been the same one and i just haven't noticed... > >> > >> anyway, who's stanley kubrick? > >> > >> love you all you hoppity kiddies, even the nasty putrid brit > >> show-goers (no bitterness here, of course). > >> > >> laurel > >> xxxxxx > >> > >> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >> +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > >> To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > >> send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > >> "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarahsheridan at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 20:06:17 1998 From: sarahsheridan at xxx.com (Paul Francke) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 12:06:17 PDT Subject: Sinister: chicago? Message-ID: <19980903190617.14442.qmail@hotmail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hello! Sorry to jump the gun on tour dates, I expect they'll be released in full sometime...but these Sandra/Travis emails about chicago have been making me anxious; has anyone heard about a b&s chicago show, or is that just wishful thinking on my part? love&ttfn! paully ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lapis at xxx.edu Thu Sep 3 20:17:35 1998 From: lapis at xxx.edu (dave cohen) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:17:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian (fwd) Message-ID: <199809031917.PAA22090@pobox.upenn.edu> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* there is a philly date already? where are they playing? and Pollstar gives 10/26 as the Chicago tour date (Metro) for the person who asked about that. finally...anyone know about these 2 titles listed at german music express -- $10.04 BELLE & SEBASTIAN -- GROWING UP IN THE NIGHT 3MVPRCDS6 7/98 3MV Add to Basket Cd Single $18.64 BELLE & SEBASTIAN -- REINVENTING PUNCTUATION 3MVJPRCD2 8/98 3MV Add to Basket --dave lapis at pobox.upenn.edu my first post to the list...hullo all! > > Folks: > > I just bought my tickets to the Boston show. It will be Wednesday Oct. > 21 at the Morse Auditorium (Boston University's main Auditorium). > > Tickets are bought through the middle east: > > Call (617)864-EAST > > They are 15 bucks each. You can buy them with your credit card. > Strawberries are also selling tickets. > > Unfortunately, I've seen a show here (the future bible heroes) and the > accoustics in this room ar TERRIBLE. Thus, I'd like to see them two > days later in Philly too. > > Matt > > ______________________________________________________ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Thu Sep 3 20:35:13 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 20:35:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian (fwd) References: <199809031917.PAA22090@pobox.upenn.edu> Message-ID: <35EEEF71.D651459@jeepster.co.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* dave cohen wrote: > finally...anyone know about these 2 titles listed at > german music express -- > > $10.04 BELLE & SEBASTIAN -- GROWING UP IN THE NIGHT > 3MVJPRCDS6 7/98 3MV Add to Basket > Cd Single > > $18.64 BELLE & SEBASTIAN -- REINVENTING PUNCTUATION > 3MVJPRCD2 8/98 3MV Add to Basket > > --dave > my first post to the list...hullo all! welcome to the list :) right, the two releases above are by one of the other jeepster bands, "salako". if you see things like this turning up over the place it's because a lot of on-line stores base their info on cdnow! and as we all know, cdnow are appalling! let us know where they are (mail us the url) and i'll set them straight gleefully :) cheers meet details for leeds and london will follow tomorrow, nobody has got in contact with me re: nottingham, so i don't know what will happen there! if you're in nottingham please post a pub/club to attend before and after and whatever the majority of us feel on the night will probably go. as always we welcome the use of the merchandise stall as a meetig point, but please tolerate us if we're busy and can't fit a word in edgeways to chat :) david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sandrad at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 20:48:33 1998 From: sandrad at xxx.com (Sandra Duric) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 15:48:33 -0400 Subject: Sinister: chicago? In-Reply-To: <19980903190617.14442.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980903154833.00915850@mail.accu-staff.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* So I looked at the Metro website and nothing lists for the Chicago show. I called ticketmaster with no luck. Oct 25, 26, 27? I've heard it all on this list! Does anyone really truly know???? At 12:06 PM 9/3/98 PDT, Paul Francke wrote: > > *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > >Hello! > >Sorry to jump the gun on tour dates, I expect they'll be released in >full sometime...but these Sandra/Travis emails about chicago have been >making me anxious; has anyone heard about a b&s chicago show, or is that >just wishful thinking on my part? > >love&ttfn! >paully > >______________________________________________________ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From susannah at xxx.net Thu Sep 3 21:47:10 1998 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 98 20:47:10 GMT Subject: Sinister: TIME OUT review Message-ID: <980903204710.n0015799.tormentor@mail.clara.net> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* I've never done an informative sensible post before so here goes: Time Out Sept 2-9 issue;- 'We'll call it a transitional album, if only for the fact that Stuart Murdoch doesn't hog all the songwriting credits. This, of course, can only be a good thing. The more different members compete to create something worthy of an already formidable brand name, the better the music gets. For evidence, look no further than 'Is it Wicked Not To Care?' which rubs shoulders with the best of B&S's canon. It was written by the violinist (sic) Isobel- presumably for inclusion between The Velvet Underground's ' I'll Be Your Mirror' and 'The Happiest Girl In The World' by fellow Glaswegians Biff Bang Pow! on a C90 labelled 'vulnerable'. Stevie the guitarist has chipped in with a couple too: a plaintive ode to New York fanzine 'Chickfactor'; and 'Seymour Stein', seemingly about blowing out dinner with a US record company mogul. Really though, its a song about perspective, plain and simple, whose expansive melancholia barely prepares you for Stuart David's ensuing contibution. Replace Jim Morrison with a Scottish boy and Augustus Pablo on melodica and lo! - The Doors' LA Woman' turns into 'A Space Boy Dream'! And among all this - perhaps because of the new colours surrounding it - Stuart Murdoch's music glows ever brighter: the beat-boogie of the title track; and 'Simple Things', whose concise elegance tips the pendulum more towards quintessential than typical. So many ace songwriters. Just one band. Shouldn't someone call the Monopolies and Mergers Commision? Blinder. susannnah. xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ian at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 22:32:42 1998 From: ian at xxx.com (Ian Connelly) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:32:42 -0800 Subject: Sinister: poor salon review of tbwtas Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* is it wicked to make so many factual errors? probably. the tenor of the review is another story, i suppose. ~ ian -----> Belle and Sebastian THE BOY WITH THE ARAB STRAP | MATADOR BY CHRIS LEHMAN | "If You're Feeling Sinister," the de facto debut offering from Scottish Wunderkinder Belle and Sebastian, was a bracing but exhilarating primer in long-neglected pop fundamentals. Unassuming front man Stuart Murdoch delivered closely observed, sly and morose songs; the rest of the band supplied spare but hypnotically tuneful backing. It was the kind of seamless folk-inflected pop that the word "winsome" was invented to describe. Now, of course, the eminently justified critical embrace of "If You're Feeling Sinister" casts a long and almost certainly unfair shadow on the band's new disc, "The Boy With the Arab Strap." And just as understandably, the new disc finds the band in a restless, experimental mood. The short opening character study, "It Could Have Been a Brilliant Career," segues briskly into the insistent, synth-heavy rhythms of "Sleeping the Clock Around," only to lurch back to folkie introspection in a listless ode to clotted affect, "Is It Wicked Not to Care?" But it's also around here that the listener starts getting suspicious: The tag line of the song's outro chorus is "Would you love me till I'm dead?" a direct lift from the outro chorus of "Northern Sky," by the ethereal '70s folkie Nick Drake, one of Belle and Sebastian's most frequently cited musical ancestors. It seems that Murdoch and company are starting to tire of their own sense of youthful self-discovery and have set about indulging in the postmodern game of cataloging influences. Indeed, many of the new disc's songs seem like little more than involuted studies in pop allusion: The supremely ill-advised venture into Glaswegian trip-hop, "Spaceboy Dream," for example, sounds like a shotgun wedding between John Cale and A Tribe Called Quest. "Seymour Stein," a labored depiction of an uncool record company executive, sounds like Love's Arthur Lee on a particularly smug day. Even the more musically robust and interesting tracks, such as "The Roller Coaster Ride" and "Dirty Dream #2," don't stir themselves lyrically to address anything more than an assortment of ill-defined "troubles" and the band's own chronic sense of aimlessness. You certainly don't want to give up on a band as promising and as abundantly gifted as Belle and Sebastian. But too much of "The Boy With the Arab Strap" defies you to do just that. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ian at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 22:35:29 1998 From: ian at xxx.com (Ian Connelly) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:35:29 -0800 Subject: Sinister: salon: attribution Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* salon magazine is located at www.salonmagazine.com this particular review was at: http://www.salonmagazine.com/ent/music/reviews/1998/09/02review.html#belle sorry for the multiple posts and copyright violations! ian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarahsheridan at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 22:42:58 1998 From: sarahsheridan at xxx.com (Paul Francke) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:42:58 PDT Subject: Re. Sinister: chicago? Message-ID: <19980903214259.7350.qmail@hotmail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* >So I looked at the Metro website and nothing lists for the Chicago >show. I called ticketmaster with no luck. Oct 25, 26, 27? I've > heard it all on this list! Does anyone really truly know???? dave was right, as the metro webpage now lists the show for monday 10/26. yay! paul ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TWidmer at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 22:51:31 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:51:31 -0700 Subject: Sinister: B&S reviews, SF party and oh so much MORE! Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF032785B0@amerwksnt01.xil.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* well, to be honest the more negative reviews of "TBWTAS" are kind of a refreshing change. If *every* article gave it five stars and gushed about how heartbreakingly beautiful every single song was I think it *could* be a big let-down to people like me who haven't heard it. Sometimes when something is SO hyped and you're killing yourself in anticipation of it, that no matter how wonderful it is when it finally happens, it can't possibly live up to the expectations you've set. can anybody back me up on this?? ***** Remember that Bay Area listening party that was cancelled?? In order to further complicate matters, Matador finally contacted me today (the reasoning being better late than never, I suppose?) and I shall very soon have a copy of the album in my possession. Therefore, i implore *anyone* who is still interested in a Labor Day get-together to contact me ASAP. E-mail: Twidmer at xil.com Call me at work: (415) 477-8766 leave a message if no answer. ******** Finally, I should know better than to tell you this (as it will severely diminish this wee kitten's chance of getting one) but I spoke with a guy at Mod Lang record shop in Berkeley & he said that they are trying to obtain posters to give away with the purchase of "TBWTAS". However, the record company hasn't answered them either way, so they don't know for sure yet. He also said there is some problem they are having with getting the vinyl version of TBWTAS and it probably won't be available on Tues. tata, tara, that wee kitten +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From calnd at xxx.uk Thu Sep 3 22:49:44 1998 From: calnd at xxx.uk (Chris Leonard) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:49:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Monday And Tuesdays sets to be sure Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* You see, I wrote them down for my competition. Enjoy! If you entered, why not work out how many points you got for yourself, and see if you got it right next week! See some of you scary lot tomorrow, c =============== Mondays set 1. Beautiful 2. Simple Things 3. Mayfly 4. Is It Wicked not to care 5. A Century Of Fakers 6. A Summer Wasting 7. Wrong Love 8. Seeing Other People 9. The Boy With the Rabbit Strap 10. Spaceboy Dream 11. Get Me Away 12. I Don't Love anyone 13. The Boy Done Wrong Again 14. Judy And The Dream Of Horses Tuesdays Set: 1. Dog On Wheels 2. Dirty Dream #2 3. The loneliness of the Middle Distance Runner 4. The Gate 5. The State I am in 6. Lazy Line Painter Jane 7. Seymour Stein 8. It Could Have been A brilliant Career 9. She's Losing it 10. Slow Graffiti 11. Chickfactor 12. Belle And Sebastian 13. Photo Jenny 14. The Rollercoaster Ride +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From calnd at xxx.uk Thu Sep 3 22:55:25 1998 From: calnd at xxx.uk (Chris Leonard) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:55:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Competition......background Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Sawaddee! Please forgive my delay in getting back to you on competition progress, but I've not been here I've been on holiday in Glencoe with miss julia where the little midges ate me silly. Little fuckers. Anyway, the competition. Some statistics before I start: - 22 people entered the competition. Which made it totally worthwhile writing a computer system to work the scores out. Cheers. - 3 were ladies. And so...... Here's what everyone guessed. Spot the Dafties! I will post results next thursday, when I'm back.......... Adrian Evans The State I Am In Expectations Judy And The Dream She's Losing It Modern Rock Song Andrew Grant Lazy Line Painter The State I Am In Photo Jenny She's Losing It Slow Graffiti Calumn Shearer The Stars Of Track We Rule The School Belle And Sebastian Le Pastie De La The State I Am In Declan McGurk Le Pastie De La A Century Of Fakers Dog On Wheels She's Losing It The State I Am In Derek Martin It Could Have Been A You're Just A Baby My Wandering Days She's Losing It Belle And Sebastian da duke It Could Have Be Slow Graffiti My Wandering Days London Has Let Me Hurley's Having FunkySeb The Boy With The The State I Am In Slow Graffiti Pocketbook Angel London Has Let Me John Johnstone The Loneliness Of A The State I Am In Expectations Le Pastie De La Slow Graffiti Joss Moorkens Mary Jo Seeing Other People The Loneliness Of A We Rule The School I Don't Love Anyone Miss Julia Dirty Dream #2 I Could Be Dreaming I Don't Love Anyone Le Pastie De La My Wandering Days kevan cooke Le Pastie De La The State I Am In You Made Me Forget Put The Book Back Slow Graffiti Linda 'String Band' Kerr The State I Am In She's Losing It Mary Jo Spaceboy Dream You Made Me Forget matt Bcapirigi Get Me Away From Put The Book Back She's Losing It Le Pastie De La TheState I Am In Oooooooon Photo Jenny The State I Am In I Could Be Dreaming Judy And The Dream Put The Book Back paul 'meat lightbulb' mitchell Belle And Sebastian Mary Jo We Rule The School You Made Me Forget Seeing Other People peter larsson Dog On Wheels The State I Am In Get Me Away From Mary Jo She's Losing It Peter Miller Hurley's Having Slow Graffiti Is It Wicked Not To London Has Let Me My Wandering Days R.O. Jenkin She's Losing It Le Pastie De La I Don't Love Anyone You Made Me Forget Judy And The Dream Rod Begbie Lazy Line Painter Modern Rock Song My Wandering Days Photo Jenny She's Losing It ronan barrett The State I Am In Modern Rock Song Le Pastie De La Slow Graffiti She's Losing It Steve Genge She's Losing It Judy And The Dream We Rule The School I Don't Love Anyone Slow Graffiti Tim Hopkins The State I Am In Slow Graffiti Modern Rock Song Le Pastie De La Mary Jo Ho ho ho. Some howlers there, eh? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From conform at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 23:08:55 1998 From: conform at xxx.com (Seamus Campbell) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:08:55 -0700 Subject: FW: Sinister: mmuuu Message-ID: <01FF24001403D011AD7B00A024BC53C53BF2B9@cane.deming.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanessa Figueras [SMTP:vanessa.figueras at xxx.se] > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 1998 11:12 AM > To: Laurel Girvan > Cc: sinister at majordomo.net; poetryplace2 > Subject: Re: Sinister: mmuuu > > > *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > > isn't he the director of "Clockwork Orange" > > yes. also full metal jacket, 2001: a space oddessy, the shining, dr > strangelove, and lolita. > > and "Acopalypso Now"? > > nope. francis ford coppola. > > Laurel Girvan wrote: > > > *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > > > > how many times are we going to get trousie poo's review posted? > or > > hasn't it been the same one and i just haven't noticed... > > > > anyway, who's stanley kubrick? > > > > love you all you hoppity kiddies, even the nasty putrid brit > > show-goers (no bitterness here, of course). > > > > laurel > > xxxxxx > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > -+ > > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Thu Sep 3 23:09:40 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:09:40 EDT Subject: Sinister: I'm only lucid when I'm riding...well, trains actually Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* I wasn't going to post today, but then I thought, aw, shucks, all you Connex South Eastern fans want to know about my day. Well alright then, I'll tell you. As I staggered into the booking hall, a man in a very smart cepe tried to sweep me up. 'sorry' I said though it wasn't my fault, 'you'll have to go away' he said 'we're tidying this area up.' So I skulked off to the platforms, and lo! there were a host of beautiful people in lovely blue and yellow suits, and happy cheery cockney types in pristine day-glo boiler suits all busying around and doing their jobs properly like the plastic people you get moulded to your Hornby train set. And they herded the slightly scuffed real people to the very end of the platform. 'Stay here' they said, 'there's a special train coming it's not for you keep away from it. Important people are coming' And as I looked around the huddle, I saw a beautiful girl looking wistfully at the Travellers Fare. And I saw that she was the absolute spit of Isobel. We all got on our dirty old train, and I decided that it surely was Isobel, taking a day off from her hectic P!O!P! star life, and enjoying a recreational trip to Royal Tunbridge Wells. And why not? We have an animatronic Beau Nash, and T!W!O! branches of Boots, the chemist. So I hummed 'Is it wicked not to care', allowing the lovely tune to waft around the carriage, in an attempt at subtle communication. If she harmonised, I'd know it was fate! Sadly as I'd just come out of the pub the song turned into a hugest BURRP! known to man, and the none too subtle aroma of stale bitter filled the suddenly much smaller compartment. Isobel looked at me as if I was Albert Steptoe and the moment was lost, for ever. I also dreamt that Stuart was running over all the flowers in the world in his great big bus. I rang the bell, but he carried on until every one was flattened. Right, I'm sure I've tried your patience enough by now. Not long to go now, kids love, seb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From suzsch at xxx.net Fri Sep 4 00:26:34 1998 From: suzsch at xxx.net (Suzanne Schroeder) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:26:34 -0500 Subject: Sinister: boston tix? Message-ID: <199809032319.SAA19786@smtp1.mailsrvcs.net> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Where are they on sale at, if anywhere? s.s. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Fri Sep 4 00:21:40 1998 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 19:21:40 EDT Subject: Sinister: new CD in stock Message-ID: <14b42b7c.35ef2484@aol.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* No, I'm not mental and I know the label reads this. We have the new CD (did I mention just 2 copies) since we are a small ma & pa record store. Labor Day weekend a few years back I bought the 4 CD The Who -> box set the Friday before Labor Day at a major store (Best Buy) when it wasn't due to be released to the Tuesday after the holiday. It happens sometimes cuz holiday shipments get shipped early by distributors. It's not like anyone goes and advertises it. You didn't hear the information from me. We don't do any advertising for our small ma & pa record store. I didn't offer them for sale to anyone here. Did I mention the name of the store? No, I didn't, did I? Pete +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blink at xxx.net Fri Sep 4 00:21:47 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 19:21:47 -0400 Subject: Sinister: my feet are sore,but i'm not down no References: <199809031944.UAA00888@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <35EF248B.7203@inexpress.net> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* dear bears, those reviews are too lovely,all this sinister stuff...that's it,i must go to the nyc picnic... > No, it's francis Ford coppola that has directed "Apocalypse now". > Kubrik has directed "Clockwork orange", "Doctor Strangelove", "Full > metal jacket", "Shining" and many more. > French kisses to everyone > Julien Lolita as well,yes? as you all had gorgeous days on tuesday i imagine,well mine was not as perfect we shall say..( oh why is hitchhiking illegal!!).is that Murdoch Murder One still availible? oh have i got a job for him!! monsieur bobby chariot,you're an odd little monkey,but you make me laugh in this bitter state. everything will be fine,everything will be fine xoxo genevieve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From heinitz at xxx.net Fri Sep 4 01:19:30 1998 From: heinitz at xxx.net (Heinitz) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 98 00:19:30 GMT Subject: Sinister: mouse/leeds Message-ID: <980904001930.n0001289.heinitz@mail.clara.net> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* hello everybody, just to say, i think i will be at the pre gig gathering tomorrow in leeds, although i am slightly worried about attempting to gather and then being too shy to say anything to anybody, as i am wont to do. anyway, whether i gather successfully or not, i will enjoy the gig immensely, i am sure, as i am very excited about it. as for the mouse, well, i haven't seen him since i returned him to his freedom, but i don't often walk up to where we released him. it was quite near an old people's home, so if the brief domesticity had a permanent effect on him he could have taken up residency there, and might be nibbling at old people as we speak. or rather, as i type. or as you read, whatever. it isn't that i'm not sentimental (i am, hopelessly so), but i have plenty of animals to worry about without the mouse. i regard myself in a kind of fostering role, rather than an adopting role, with that one. a sort of pippa-off-home-and-away character, only without the enormous skirts. leeds again - i am a short, dark person, and my friend is a tall curly haired person of the male gender. if you see us, and feel inclined, say hello. love, the girl with the mouse (abi, who can hardly contain her excitement) xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MWaggner at xxx.com Fri Sep 4 01:49:00 1998 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:49:00 EDT Subject: Sinister: mmuuu Message-ID: <74508ca4.35ef38fc@aol.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* In a message dated 98-09-03 14:13:29 EDT, you write: > *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > > isn't he the director of "Clockwork Orange" and "Acopalypso Now"? > > Laurel Girvan wrote: "Clockwork Orange" and "2001: A Space Odyssey." "Apocalypse Now" was Francis Ford Coppola, no? The latter 2 are among my most favorite films. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lapis at xxx.edu Fri Sep 4 04:05:45 1998 From: lapis at xxx.edu (dave cohen) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:05:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re. Sinister: chicago? (fwd) Message-ID: <199809040305.XAA10276@pobox.upenn.edu> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > > > >So I looked at the Metro website and nothing lists for the Chicago > >show. I called ticketmaster with no luck. Oct 25, 26, 27? I've > > heard it all on this list! Does anyone really truly know???? > > dave was right, as the metro webpage now lists the show for monday > 10/26. yay! > > paul an showing that karma is still a working force just picked up my tickets for the philly gig 10/23 at the troc thanks matthew! just goes to show what subbing to this list can do unglau-bloody-blich, --dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From HoleRole at xxx.com Fri Sep 4 04:39:05 1998 From: HoleRole at xxx.com (HoleRole at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:39:05 EDT Subject: Sinister: It's about time..... Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hello Folks, I've been a member of this list long enough. It's about time I started participating in all the conversation. My name is Aaron and I live in Brooklyn, New York. I have every intention of meeting as many of you as I can at the concert on the 1st of November and at the picnic, which I hope to attend. At this point I will proceed to bore those of you still reading with the details of my day (yes, there is some B&S content). After seeing There's Something About Mary for the second time I went back to my friend Maurice's house. I stayed there for dinner since my own family were all out for various reasons. Maurice is one of the many people who I am trying to turn on to Belle & Sebastion. I had brought my copy of Dog on Wheels over to his house and he put it on just as his mother half asked half forced me to help prepare dinner. Then a strange thing happened. Beneath the din of a household with four children, a frazzled mother and a tired friend helping to prepare dinner (you have all probably heard similar sounds in your own homes at hectic moments) came the familiar sound of Stuart Murdoch ("When I was a boy i was confounded by you....."). I'm not sure if the music transended the hussle and bussle and brought the house up with it or the beauty of the music was stifled by the noise but the juxtaposition was interesting. Glad to have a place where i can share my observations, Aaron +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NeilD at xxx.uk Fri Sep 4 09:11:11 1998 From: NeilD at xxx.uk (Neil Dewhurst) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:11:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Kubrick Message-ID: <01B587EA4C0BD2119DD200805F7DF7550AA4B5@ncmserver> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Er, am I massively wrong here, or has everyone forgotten or somehow failed to see the marvellous and bizarre 2001? Catch it on a big screen somewhere if you can, anything else doesn't compare. xfm, oh dear. I haven't listened since the last song I heard one night was something by Ocean Colour Scene, and the first the next morning was U2's Discotechque. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Sep 3 14:53:29 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:53:29 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Runarooooooooooound NOW! Message-ID: <01bdd742$3b0a8340$LocalHost@itjfvkli> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Doctor Paul wrote: Stuart Murdoch took us all on a two minute diversion from the >stage about "Mike Read's Runaround" (for those not called "Peter >Miller" it was a UK kids TV programme in the 80s). He concluded we >were all "too young" when we didn't respond to jokes about orange >balls. Linda and I coughed a little. Not only was it a fantastic telly treat, it was also a smashing quiz book. I bought it in WHSmiths in Canaervon/Canaerfffffon (?), for ages afterwards I thought WHSmiths was a good shop. Just to elaborate a little on Doctor Paul's description, Runaround was a bit like Twister, only with questions. It was presented by Cockney Wanker from Viz. The game Twister, not the film. on page 10 of the MM >you'll see a "What's It All About" article about... "List Songs". >The big lazy gits nicked it from OUR list! There's apparently a lot >of your own examples on there. Next week expect "What's It All >About... Newt Mating Dances on Mike Read's Runaround". It's not the first time we've been plundered, is it? I remember Uncle Trousers pointing out a similar case of grand list larceny some time ago. Let's try and throw them off the scent.... Here's another of those ironic song combinations..oh dear...I can hardly type for tittering...the kids will love this....OH LORD, WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ME AND THE MAJOR? by BIG MAY-BELLE AND SEBASTIAN!!!! Oh no! I've wet myself... The newt tank's a fine and private place, but no kingfishers, I think, do there embrace. Today I saw Mister Kingfisher again, and he tried to throw me off the trail by darting under the bridge and flying upstream. Undeterred, I followed quietly. I saw it by standing by the side of the stream in the distance, so I stood stock still and waited. And waited. And waited..... A few minutes later it transpired that I had been patiently waiting for an empty Nestea can to fly off. What a silly billy! Thanks to Andrew for the reviews. That Melody Maker one is poo, but at least NME were nice. I was fully expecting a lengthy vendetta from them. Starsky and Hutch +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Claire.Simpson at xxx.uk Fri Sep 4 09:42:00 1998 From: Claire.Simpson at xxx.uk (Simpson, Claire E) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:42:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Good news and Bad Message-ID: <199809040835.JAA16236@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Good Morning All! Well the good news is I have just managed to get 2 tickets to the gig on Monday, so I am more that a little excited. The bad news is that now only two of the three of us get to go, so there is a very pouty man walking round London as we speak. I know this is a long shot, but if anyone out there has a spare ticket, or knows a man who has, you could potentially make my friend very happy indeed!! Meanwhile, have an excellent weekend thinking of TBWTAS and the show on Monday. Huzzah!! Claire +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iles at xxx.uk Fri Sep 4 10:53:46 1998 From: iles at xxx.uk (Mark Iles) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:53:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Leeds gig Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* I'm going to the Leeds gig tonight with a friend (that's the good news). He's coming from Derby straight after work and can't make it until 8.20 (that's the bad news). So does anyone know what time the bands are going to be on stage (ie. what time will Elliot Smith start)? Am I going to have to go in without him and meet him in there, or am I safe waiting that late? If anyone knows, could they email me privately, as I'm on the digest and might not get the reply in time othwerwise. Thanks. Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ Mark Iles, Tel: +44 (0113) 2065042 Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Fax: +44 (0113) 2340183 Genetic Epidemiology Laboratory, Ashley Wing, Email: iles at boreas.leeds.icnet.uk St James's University Hospital, Beckett Street, Leeds, "I liked it so much I bought the LS9 7TF company. 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Sep 4 10:36:16 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:36:16 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Leeds gig location (no Leeds gig location content) Message-ID: <01bdd7e7$778a2000$LocalHost@itjfvkli> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* >P.S.: 2 things for Mister Miller... >first, Echo and the Bunnymen were never the same once they *got* a proper drummer... Excellent riposte. 100 points. Now where did I put that dodgy bootleg from Eric's? But I'm right aren't I? Even though I'm wrong. That dead fella used to use brushes. >second, which Junior Byles best of is it? I've never heard a bad Junior B record, and can >particularly recommend his work with Scratch, Niney and with Channel One. I haven't heard the >new Blood and Fire release (partly) by him. Anything with 'Curly Locks' and 'The Long Way' on is >a sure fire smash. a N!E!W! Blood and Fire release!? My first love in the world of portly Jamaicans. Now I dig Heartbeat and Jamaican Gold. I bought the Junior Byles record anyway. It is on Heartbeat and does indeed contain the songs you mention, Tim, one of them three times. I haven't listened to it yet, but it gets an "E" from the Rough Guide, so it must be good. Also, I'm beginning to get the hang of Bounty Killer. I think the expression I'm looking for is "insanely catchy". On a lighter note, Junior Byles appears to have suffered from metal illness as well. Do you think the high level of mental illness in Jamaican music circles is due to ganja consumption? I do. Did I say "lighter note"? I didn't mean it. Peel the Chemist this morning treated me to my first experience of Arab Strap. It reminded me of The Pogues, well, the singing anyway. I really rather liked it. He also played THE DELGADO and I was quite satisfied. It was a little bit country. All comers were well and truly steamrollered by a beautiful track by I Roy, however. Ooon, are you receiving me? I got your tape package yesterday, despite having given you half my new address and half my old address. Doh! I haven't listened to any of it yet, but I can exclusively reveal that Winnie the Pooh is hot news in Thailand and that Dr Paul's mystery finale is in fact Splat saying "pish". Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Fri Sep 4 10:37:06 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 10:37:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Leeds gig References: Message-ID: <35EFB4C2.E82B63BF@jeepster.co.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hi everyone, okey doke - here's the stage times for all three gigs: leeds: doors: 7.30pm elliot smith: 8.15 - 9.00 pm b&s: 9.30 pm curfew: 12.00pm nottingham: doors: 7.30pm elliot smith: 8.30 - 9.15 pm b&s: 9.45 pm curfew: 1.00am london: doors: 7.30pm national park: 7.45 - 8.15pm (go early .. they're great!) elliot smith: 8.30 - 9.15 pm b&s: 9.45 pm curfew: 12.00pm hope that's cool! cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kcooke at xxx.uk Fri Sep 4 10:50:00 1998 From: kcooke at xxx.uk (Kevan Cooke) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:50:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Name badges Message-ID: <3DE00430016A1600@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Well, I'm a cheapskate and use the mail system at work for e-mail, so I'm going to miss any last flurry of messages over the weekend regarding plans for monday night. I for one look forward to wandering around the Firkin pub and muttering "are you sinister?" to complete strangers. I'm still in favour of wearing name badges on monday night - perhaps we need a gentle encouraging nudge in the form of a competition... A prize for the best name badge? Honey, would you be prepared to judge? Can anyone suggest a prize? All I've got to offer is a half-eaten lettuce leaf. Kevan The Fat Slug +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Fri Sep 4 11:41:55 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 11:41:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: UPDATE: gig meet up details Message-ID: <35EFC3F3.A3D06C7D@jeepster.co.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* ok, here are all the details i have on all of the meet ups that i know of in the UK. there is a page with these on which is prettier and can be printed for reference, you can find it at http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/news/meetup.htm NOTE: these details may require updating, if so and you can help, then please reply to this message via the list and keep the subject the same, this will enable people to find the updates easily within the archive :) -- *gig meet ups* for the UK gigs some of the fans on the sinister mailing list have made arrangements to meet each other and have extended this as an open invite for anyone who wants to come along. the general idea is that it will give you a place to go if you're there early, people to drink and laugh with who also love belle and sebastian, and maybe a place to go afterwards to dance the night away. these details were all written on the morning of the 4th september, they may not be correct on the day of the gigs, please check the sinister archives for any last minute updates. so in chronological order here are the plans for the UK gig meet ups. *leeds - 4th september* this is far and away the most organised of the meets. from about 5pm-ish we will be gravitating towards the 'Whitelocks' pub, which is about 2 minutes walk from the venue. directions to the pub : Turn left out of the railway station and walk up to the corner of City Square. Turn right along Boar Lane, and wander along there for a couple of hundred yards, until you see McDonalds on your left. Mcdonalds is on the corner of Boar Lane and Briggate. Turn left up Briggate. The Whitelocks is in an alleyway on the left as you walk up the Hill, opposite Debenhams. The Whitelocks is the only thing in the alley. There is a sign outside the pub, which says 'Whitelocks'. If you're coming from the other side of town, find the St John's shopping centre. Remember to have a look at the sometimes excellent Jumbo Records while you're there. >From St John's go into Dortmund Square, which is a little pedestrian square with a statue of a fat fellow holdng a barrel. at the opposite end of the square from the St John's Centre is the Headrow. Turn left down the headrow, and take the second right into Briggate. Going down the hill, the Whitelocks is in an alleyway on the right, opposite Debenhams. The Whitelocks is the only thing in the alley. There is a sign outside the pub, which says 'Whitelocks'. Avoid a pub called 'The Ship' which is also up an alleyway on the same street. It's a bit rough (same goes for the pub next to the venue!). To get to the venue from the Whitelocks, leave the Whitelocks and turn left up Briggate. The City Varieties is in a little street off Briggate called Swan Street. It's a little way up the hill from The Whitelocks on the same side of the road. If you get as far as The Odeon Cinema, you've gone too far. you'll be able to spot us very easily, descriptions are not needed! after the gig we'll be grooving to the sounds of northern soul/indie/miscellaneous sixties beats at 'Brighton Beach'. if you keep your ticket stub (from the gig) you'll be let into the club for the members price of £4 (usual price £5). directions to the club : To get to it from the venue, turn out of Swan Street on to The Briggate. Turn right down the Briggate until you come to McDonalds. Turn Right along Boar Lane and walk along to the train station. Turn left at the road before the station and follow the road around to the left, club is next to pub called The Rocket. It's about 5-10 mins walk from City Varieties. *nottingham - 5th september* no-one contacted me with meet details before i left London to do the merchandise and stuff, as such i have no idea what is happening here. before the gig i guess that we'll all be meeting at the closest pub to the venue! as we're really that predictable :) after the gig there is a DJ from Glasgow's 'Divine' club, he's very cool and you can be guaranteed that the band will dance the night away too. though this does end quite early (1am) it should suffice in the lack of other plans. *london - 7th september* this is probably the simplest, before the gig we'll be meeting at the 'Fringe and Firkin' pub which is to the left of the venue (you can't miss it). we'll be there from around 4:30pm and having finally earnt a bit of time off will be joining everyone in the pub after that time, i guess most people will turn up circa 6:30pm. after the gig we were fairly stuck, there really aren't that many cool clubs in london on a monday night. but our search lead us to 'Trash' which is at Plastic People, 39 Oxford St and requires that you catch a tube from Shepherds Bush to Tottenham Court Road (Central Line). again,anyone showing their ticket stubs will be let in for the flyer price and won't have to foot the full price. any changes to the London details will be announced on an ansaphone from sunday 6th sept in the evening, simply call 0181 560 1815 after that time. -- david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From esincoff at xxx.com Fri Sep 4 14:08:11 1998 From: esincoff at xxx.com (Ethan Sincoff) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 09:08:11 -0400 Subject: Sinister: BOred bored bored Message-ID: <35EFE63A.55C2A843@icon.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* hey all .... SO I guess the band is playing some UK gigs this weekend, no? well here in the usa we have a long weekend, monday off and all... I'm incredibly bored here at work. SO if anyone would like to mail me to tell me about what they are up to, I'd appreciate it!! Ethan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sandrad at xxx.com Fri Sep 4 14:10:28 1998 From: sandrad at xxx.com (Sandra Duric) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 09:10:28 -0400 Subject: Re. Sinister: chicago? In-Reply-To: <19980903214259.7350.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980904091028.0090f300@mail.accu-staff.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* yea! thanks Dave! I saw your posting and then I did look for it on the metro's website, I don't know how I missed that??? so, does this mean, should we plan something?? BTW, can anyone giving me directions to the venue? We're coming from Detroit... sandra At 02:42 PM 9/3/98 PDT, Paul Francke wrote: > > *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > > >>So I looked at the Metro website and nothing lists for the Chicago >>show. I called ticketmaster with no luck. Oct 25, 26, 27? I've > >heard it all on this list! Does anyone really truly know???? > >dave was right, as the metro webpage now lists the show for monday >10/26. yay! > >paul > >______________________________________________________ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From d.barker at xxx.uk Fri Sep 4 14:31:30 1998 From: d.barker at xxx.uk (Cassell Professional Publishing) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1998 14:31:30 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I love the Sun Message-ID: <0003022df580$b74aff80$7b65e4d4@server> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Have you seen that the Sun newspaper now has a trendy London guide every Friday, for all of its highly fashionable readers to keep themselves abreast of events? It seems to be almost entirely written by one bloke, Ally Ross, and is actually quite funny. Here is today's review of the new Lambchop album: With the showbiz world still mourning Shari Lewis, some may say Lambchop launched her solo rock career too soon. But this album proves Chop was right to do so. Shari took most of the credit for their work, but this should leave Lamb minted. Well it made me laugh, anyway. No BandS album reviews today in the Times, Guardian, or Independent. What's up? The Daily Mail managed to get their morally upright hands on a copy, and gave it three out of five, claiming that it was let down by two spoken word rambles. Is that a joke about Stevie's singing on Chickfactor? Thanks to Jon for the Nottingham directions. I will enjoy trying to spot he and Bethey tomorrow. I don't think it will be too hard, as most of us are well into our forties. Take care, DAVID +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Calumn.Shearer at xxx.uk Fri Sep 4 14:45:27 1998 From: Calumn.Shearer at xxx.uk (Shearer, Calumn) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 14:45:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: DAILY RECORD: Review of Glasgow gig Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* In a shocking break from normality, Calumn posts a message with actual, real, Belle and Sebastian content.... Page 55 of "Daily Record" Friday 4th September ************************************************************************ ********************* A very cute picture of Isobel playing the 'cello with the caption "rare sighting: Isobel Campbell" Headline: SHY GUYS COME OUT OF HIDING BELLE and SEBASTIAN MARYHILL GLASGOW For a band with nine members and counting, local heros Belle and Sebastian are doing a good job of hiding their light under a bushel. These elusive Glaswegians have shunned publicity for two years, but have gained loyal and intense fans wherever their beautiful, thoughtful music has been heard. With the release of their third album, The Boy With The Arab Strap, singer Stuart Murdoch and his fellow musicians came out of hiding to play two low-key warm-up shows prior to a mini tour of England. And they chose to rock out gently in a community hall with a school assembly atmosphere. The audience was mainly friends and family who were prepared to give the group the benefit of the doubt. Belle and Sebastian would be the first to admit they are not the most electric live act. For one thing, there are no natural showmen in the group. Murdoch, who searched for members of his family in the audience at one stage during the show, seemed to be very uncomfortable being the centre of attention. This could have been an intimate show, but it felt more like a rehearsal, with each of the members waiting for someone else to make a mistake. However, their sweet, simple songs won the audience over, providing a reminder of a summer which never really arrived. Using a mini-orchestra of violin, cello, trumpet, recorder and keyboards, in addition to the usual rock instruments, Belle and Sebastian compose idyllic musical tastes with a 1960s folk flavour. Their music and attitude is in total contrast to the arrogance of the big guns, such as Oasis and The Verve, yet they have already achieved a fair bit of success by keeping the public wanting more. Belle and Sebastian are one band who could never be accused of overexposure. They are nine wallflowers you will always find in the kitchen at parties, but it is worth getting to know these timorous beasties. ************************************************************************ ******************** ahem... OK, who was winding up the reporter after the gig, then..... "wallflowers you will always find in the kitchen at parties"??? But not a bad review, from the "Daily Rangers", despite all the "oooh, aren't they secretive, gubbins" cal +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From prosella at xxx.com Sat Sep 5 14:51:53 1998 From: prosella at xxx.com (Paige Rosella) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 09:51:53 -0400 Subject: Sinister: RE:sinister: Philly Message-ID: <01BDD8B2.D0A69BC0@n139.natureny.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Can anyone give me information on how to purchase tickets for the Philadelphia, PA show at the Troc? Feel free to reply privately if you like. Thanks, Paige Prosella at grovereference.com -----Original Message----- From: sinister-digest [SMTP:owner-sinister-digest at xxx.net] Sent: Friday, September 04, 1998 4:51 AM To: sinister-digest at majordomo.net Subject: sinister-digest V2 #326 sinister-digest Friday, September 4 1998 Volume 02 : Number 326 *** Topics in this digest *** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 3 Sep 98 20:47:10 GMT From: susannah Subject: Sinister: TIME OUT review *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* I've never done an informative sensible post before so here goes: Time Out Sept 2-9 issue;- 'We'll call it a transitional album, if only for the fact that Stuart Murdoch doesn't hog all the songwriting credits. This, of course, can only be a good thing. The more different members compete to create something worthy of an already formidable brand name, the better the music gets. For evidence, look no further than 'Is it Wicked Not To Care?' which rubs shoulders with the best of B&S's canon. It was written by the violinist (sic) Isobel- presumably for inclusion between The Velvet Underground's ' I'll Be Your Mirror' and 'The Happiest Girl In The World' by fellow Glaswegians Biff Bang Pow! on a C90 labelled 'vulnerable'. Stevie the guitarist has chipped in with a couple too: a plaintive ode to New York fanzine 'Chickfactor'; and 'Seymour Stein', seemingly about blowing out dinner with a US record company mogul. Really though, its a song about perspective, plain and simple, whose expansive melancholia barely prepares you for Stuart David's ensuing contibution. Replace Jim Morrison with a Scottish boy and Augustus Pablo on melodica and lo! - The Doors' LA Woman' turns into 'A Space Boy Dream'! And among all this - perhaps because of the new colours surrounding it - Stuart Murdoch's music glows ever brighter: the beat-boogie of the title track; and 'Simple Things', whose concise elegance tips the pendulum more towards quintessential than typical. So many ace songwriters. Just one band. Shouldn't someone call the Monopolies and Mergers Commision? Blinder. susannnah. xxx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:32:42 -0800 From: Ian Connelly Subject: Sinister: poor salon review of tbwtas *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* is it wicked to make so many factual errors? probably. the tenor of the review is another story, i suppose. ~ ian - -----> Belle and Sebastian THE BOY WITH THE ARAB STRAP | MATADOR BY CHRIS LEHMAN | "If You're Feeling Sinister," the de facto debut offering from Scottish Wunderkinder Belle and Sebastian, was a bracing but exhilarating primer in long-neglected pop fundamentals. Unassuming front man Stuart Murdoch delivered closely observed, sly and morose songs; the rest of the band supplied spare but hypnotically tuneful backing. It was the kind of seamless folk-inflected pop that the word "winsome" was invented to describe. Now, of course, the eminently justified critical embrace of "If You're Feeling Sinister" casts a long and almost certainly unfair shadow on the band's new disc, "The Boy With the Arab Strap." And just as understandably, the new disc finds the band in a restless, experimental mood. The short opening character study, "It Could Have Been a Brilliant Career," segues briskly into the insistent, synth-heavy rhythms of "Sleeping the Clock Around," only to lurch back to folkie introspection in a listless ode to clotted affect, "Is It Wicked Not to Care?" But it's also around here that the listener starts getting suspicious: The tag line of the song's outro chorus is "Would you love me till I'm dead?" a direct lift from the outro chorus of "Northern Sky," by the ethereal '70s folkie Nick Drake, one of Belle and Sebastian's most frequently cited musical ancestors. It seems that Murdoch and company are starting to tire of their own sense of youthful self-discovery and have set about indulging in the postmodern game of cataloging influences. Indeed, many of the new disc's songs seem like little more than involuted studies in pop allusion: The supremely ill-advised venture into Glaswegian trip-hop, "Spaceboy Dream," for example, sounds like a shotgun wedding between John Cale and A Tribe Called Quest. "Seymour Stein," a labored depiction of an uncool record company executive, sounds like Love's Arthur Lee on a particularly smug day. Even the more musically robust and interesting tracks, such as "The Roller Coaster Ride" and "Dirty Dream #2," don't stir themselves lyrically to address anything more than an assortment of ill-defined "troubles" and the band's own chronic sense of aimlessness. You certainly don't want to give up on a band as promising and as abundantly gifted as Belle and Sebastian. But too much of "The Boy With the Arab Strap" defies you to do just that. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:35:29 -0800 From: Ian Connelly Subject: Sinister: salon: attribution *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* salon magazine is located at www.salonmagazine.com this particular review was at: http://www.salonmagazine.com/ent/music/reviews/1998/09/02review.html#belle sorry for the multiple posts and copyright violations! ian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:42:58 PDT From: "Paul Francke" Subject: Re. Sinister: chicago? *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* >So I looked at the Metro website and nothing lists for the Chicago >show. I called ticketmaster with no luck. Oct 25, 26, 27? I've > heard it all on this list! Does anyone really truly know???? dave was right, as the metro webpage now lists the show for monday 10/26. yay! paul ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:51:31 -0700 From: Tara Widmer Subject: Sinister: B&S reviews, SF party and oh so much MORE! *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* well, to be honest the more negative reviews of "TBWTAS" are kind of a refreshing change. If *every* article gave it five stars and gushed about how heartbreakingly beautiful every single song was I think it *could* be a big let-down to people like me who haven't heard it. Sometimes when something is SO hyped and you're killing yourself in anticipation of it, that no matter how wonderful it is when it finally happens, it can't possibly live up to the expectations you've set. can anybody back me up on this?? ***** Remember that Bay Area listening party that was cancelled?? In order to further complicate matters, Matador finally contacted me today (the reasoning being better late than never, I suppose?) and I shall very soon have a copy of the album in my possession. Therefore, i implore *anyone* who is still interested in a Labor Day get-together to contact me ASAP. E-mail: Twidmer at xil.com Call me at work: (415) 477-8766 leave a message if no answer. ******** Finally, I should know better than to tell you this (as it will severely diminish this wee kitten's chance of getting one) but I spoke with a guy at Mod Lang record shop in Berkeley & he said that they are trying to obtain posters to give away with the purchase of "TBWTAS". However, the record company hasn't answered them either way, so they don't know for sure yet. He also said there is some problem they are having with getting the vinyl version of TBWTAS and it probably won't be available on Tues. tata, tara, that wee kitten ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:49:44 +0100 From: "Chris Leonard" Subject: Sinister: Monday And Tuesdays sets to be sure *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* You see, I wrote them down for my competition. Enjoy! If you entered, why not work out how many points you got for yourself, and see if you got it right next week! See some of you scary lot tomorrow, c =============== Mondays set 1. Beautiful 2. Simple Things 3. Mayfly 4. Is It Wicked not to care 5. A Century Of Fakers 6. A Summer Wasting 7. Wrong Love 8. Seeing Other People 9. The Boy With the Rabbit Strap 10. Spaceboy Dream 11. Get Me Away... 12. I Don't Love anyone 13. The Boy Done Wrong Again 14. Judy And The Dream Of Horses Tuesdays Set: 1. Dog On Wheels 2. Dirty Dream #2 3. The loneliness of the Middle Distance Runner 4. The Gate 5. The State I am in 6. Lazy Line Painter Jane 7. Seymour Stein 8. It Could Have been A brilliant Career 9. She's Losing it 10. Slow Graffiti 11. Chickfactor 12. Belle And Sebastian 13. Photo Jenny 14. The Rollercoaster Ride ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:55:25 +0100 From: "Chris Leonard" Subject: Sinister: Competition......background *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Sawaddee! Please forgive my delay in getting back to you on competition progress, but I've not been here I've been on holiday in Glencoe with miss julia where the little midges ate me silly. Little fuckers. Anyway, the competition. Some statistics before I start: - - 22 people entered the competition. Which made it totally worthwhile writing a computer system to work the scores out. Cheers. - - 3 were ladies. And so...... Here's what everyone guessed. Spot the Dafties! I will post results next thursday, when I'm back.......... Adrian Evans The State I Am In Expectations Judy And The Dream She's Losing It Modern Rock Song Andrew Grant Lazy Line Painter The State I Am In Photo Jenny She's Losing It Slow Graffiti Calumn Shearer The Stars Of Track We Rule The School Belle And Sebastian Le Pastie De La The State I Am In Declan McGurk Le Pastie De La A Century Of Fakers Dog On Wheels She's Losing It The State I Am In Derek Martin It Could Have Been A You're Just A Baby My Wandering Days She's Losing It Belle And Sebastian da duke It Could Have Be Slow Graffiti My Wandering Days London Has Let Me Hurley's Having FunkySeb The Boy With The The State I Am In Slow Graffiti Pocketbook Angel London Has Let Me John Johnstone The Loneliness Of A The State I Am In Expectations Le Pastie De La Slow Graffiti Joss Moorkens Mary Jo Seeing Other People The Loneliness Of A We Rule The School I Don't Love Anyone Miss Julia Dirty Dream #2 I Could Be Dreaming I Don't Love Anyone Le Pastie De La My Wandering Days kevan cooke Le Pastie De La The State I Am In You Made Me Forget Put The Book Back Slow Graffiti Linda 'String Band' Kerr The State I Am In She's Losing It Mary Jo Spaceboy Dream You Made Me Forget matt Bcapirigi Get Me Away From Put The Book Back She's Losing It Le Pastie De La TheState I Am In Oooooooon Photo Jenny The State I Am In I Could Be Dreaming Judy And The Dream Put The Book Back paul 'meat lightbulb' mitchell Belle And Sebastian Mary Jo We Rule The School You Made Me Forget Seeing Other People peter larsson Dog On Wheels The State I Am In Get Me Away From Mary Jo She's Losing It Peter Miller Hurley's Having Slow Graffiti Is It Wicked Not To London Has Let Me My Wandering Days R.O. Jenkin She's Losing It Le Pastie De La I Don't Love Anyone You Made Me Forget Judy And The Dream Rod Begbie Lazy Line Painter Modern Rock Song My Wandering Days Photo Jenny She's Losing It ronan barrett The State I Am In Modern Rock Song Le Pastie De La Slow Graffiti She's Losing It Steve Genge She's Losing It Judy And The Dream We Rule The School I Don't Love Anyone Slow Graffiti Tim Hopkins The State I Am In Slow Graffiti Modern Rock Song Le Pastie De La Mary Jo Ho ho ho. Some howlers there, eh? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:08:55 -0700 From: "Seamus Campbell" Subject: FW: Sinister: mmuuu *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanessa Figueras [SMTP:vanessa.figueras at xxx.se] > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 1998 11:12 AM > To: Laurel Girvan > Cc: sinister at majordomo.net; poetryplace2 > Subject: Re: Sinister: mmuuu > > > *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > > isn't he the director of "Clockwork Orange" > > yes. also full metal jacket, 2001: a space oddessy, the shining, dr > strangelove, and lolita. > > and "Acopalypso Now"? > > nope. francis ford coppola. > > Laurel Girvan wrote: > > > *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > > > > how many times are we going to get trousie poo's review posted? > or > > hasn't it been the same one and i just haven't noticed... > > > > anyway, who's stanley kubrick? > > > > love you all you hoppity kiddies, even the nasty putrid brit > > show-goers (no bitterness here, of course). > > > > laurel > > xxxxxx > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > -+ > > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list > rules, > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > -+ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:09:40 EDT From: Funkyseb at xxx.com Subject: Sinister: I'm only lucid when I'm riding...well, trains actually *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* I wasn't going to post today, but then I thought, aw, shucks, all you Connex South Eastern fans want to know about my day. Well alright then, I'll tell you. As I staggered into the booking hall, a man in a very smart cepe tried to sweep me up. 'sorry' I said though it wasn't my fault, 'you'll have to go away' he said 'we're tidying this area up.' So I skulked off to the platforms, and lo! there were a host of beautiful people in lovely blue and yellow suits, and happy cheery cockney types in pristine day-glo boiler suits all busying around and doing their jobs properly like the plastic people you get moulded to your Hornby train set. And they herded the slightly scuffed real people to the very end of the platform. 'Stay here' they said, 'there's a special train coming it's not for you keep away from it. Important people are coming' And as I looked around the huddle, I saw a beautiful girl looking wistfully at the Travellers Fare. And I saw that she was the absolute spit of Isobel. We all got on our dirty old train, and I decided that it surely was Isobel, taking a day off from her hectic P!O!O! star life, and enjoying a recreational trip to Royal Tunbridge Wells. And why not? We have an animatronic Beau Nash, and T!W!O! branches of Boots, the chemist. So I hummed 'Is it wicked not to care', allowing the lovely tune to waft around the carriage, in an attempt at subtle communication. If she harmonised, I'd know it was fate! Sadly as I'd just come out of the pub the song turned into a hugest BURRP! known to man, and the none too subtle aroma of stale bitter filled the suddenly much smaller compartment. Isobel looked at me as if I was Albert Steptoe and the moment was lost, for ever. I also dreamt that Stuart was running over all the flowers in the world in his great big bus. I rang the bell, but he carried on until every one was flattened. Right, I'm sure I've tried your patience enough by now. Not long to go now, kids love, seb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:26:34 -0500 From: "Suzanne Schroeder" Subject: Sinister: boston tix? *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Where are they on sale at, if anywhere? s.s. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 19:21:40 EDT From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Subject: Sinister: new CD in stock *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* No, I'm not mental and I know the label reads this. We have the new CD (did I mention just 2 copies) since we are a small ma & pa record store. Labor Day weekend a few years back I bought the 4 CD The Who -> box set the Friday before Labor Day at a major store (Best Buy) when it wasn't due to be released to the Tuesday after the holiday. It happens sometimes cuz holiday shipments get shipped early by distributors. It's not like anyone goes and advertises it. You didn't hear the information from me. We don't do any advertising for our small ma & pa record store. I didn't offer them for sale to anyone here. Did I mention the name of the store? No, I didn't, did I? Pete ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 19:21:47 -0400 From: blink at xxx.net Subject: Sinister: my feet are sore,but i'm not down no *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* dear bears, those reviews are too lovely,all this sinister stuff...that's it,i must go to the nyc picnic... > No, it's francis Ford coppola that has directed "Apocalypse now". > Kubrik has directed "Clockwork orange", "Doctor Strangelove", "Full > metal jacket", "Shining" and many more. > French kisses to everyone > Julien Lolita as well,yes? as you all had gorgeous days on tuesday i imagine,well mine was not as perfect we shall say..( oh why is hitchhiking illegal!!).is that Murdoch Murder One still availible? oh have i got a job for him!! monsieur bobby chariot,you're an odd little monkey,but you make me laugh in this bitter state. everything will be fine,everything will be fine xoxo genevieve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Sep 98 00:19:30 GMT From: Heinitz Subject: Sinister: mouse/leeds *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* hello everybody, just to say, i think i will be at the pre gig gathering tomorrow in leeds, although i am slightly worried about attempting to gather and then being too shy to say anything to anybody, as i am wont to do. anyway, whether i gather successfully or not, i will enjoy the gig immensely, i am sure, as i am very excited about it. as for the mouse, well, i haven't seen him since i returned him to his freedom, but i don't often walk up to where we released him. it was quite near an old people's home, so if the brief domesticity had a permanent effect on him he could have taken up residency there, and might be nibbling at old people as we speak. or rather, as i type. or as you read, whatever. it isn't that i'm not sentimental (i am, hopelessly so), but i have plenty of animals to worry about without the mouse. i regard myself in a kind of fostering role, rather than an adopting role, with that one. a sort of pippa-off-home-and-away character, only without the enormous skirts. leeds again - i am a short, dark person, and my friend is a tall curly haired person of the male gender. if you see us, and feel inclined, say hello. love, the girl with the mouse (abi, who can hardly contain her excitement) xxx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:49:00 EDT From: MWaggner at xxx.com Subject: Re: Sinister: mmuuu *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* In a message dated 98-09-03 14:13:29 EDT, you write: > *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > > isn't he the director of "Clockwork Orange" and "Acopalypso Now"? > > Laurel Girvan wrote: "Clockwork Orange" and "2001: A Space Odyssey." "Apocalypse Now" was Francis Ford Coppola, no? The latter 2 are among my most favorite films. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:05:45 -0400 (EDT) From: dave cohen Subject: Re. Sinister: chicago? (fwd) *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > > > >So I looked at the Metro website and nothing lists for the Chicago > >show. I called ticketmaster with no luck. Oct 25, 26, 27? I've > > heard it all on this list! Does anyone really truly know???? > > dave was right, as the metro webpage now lists the show for monday > 10/26. yay! > > paul an showing that karma is still a working force just picked up my tickets for the philly gig 10/23 at the troc thanks matthew! just goes to show what subbing to this list can do unglau-bloody-blich, --dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:39:05 EDT From: HoleRole at xxx.com Subject: Sinister: It's about time..... *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hello Folks, I've been a member of this list long enough. It's about time I started participating in all the conversation. My name is Aaron and I live in Brooklyn, New York. I have every intention of meeting as many of you as I can at the concert on the 1st of November and at the picnic, which I hope to attend. At this point I will proceed to bore those of you still reading with the details of my day (yes, there is some B&S content). After seeing There's Something About Mary for the second time I went back to my friend Maurice's house. I stayed there for dinner since my own family were all out for various reasons. Maurice is one of the many people who I am trying to turn on to Belle & Sebastion. I had brought my copy of Dog on Wheels over to his house and he put it on just as his mother half asked half forced me to help prepare dinner. Then a strange thing happened. Beneath the din of a household with four children, a frazzled mother and a tired friend helping to prepare dinner (you have all probably heard similar sounds in your own homes at hectic moments) came the familiar sound of Stuart Murdoch ("When I was a boy i was confounded by you....."). I'm not sure if the music transended the hussle and bussle and brought the house up with it or the beauty of the music was stifled by the noise but the juxtaposition was interesting. Glad to have a place where i can share my observations, Aaron ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:11:11 +0100 From: Neil Dewhurst Subject: Sinister: Kubrick *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Er, am I massively wrong here, or has everyone forgotten or somehow failed to see the marvellous and bizarre 2001? Catch it on a big screen somewhere if you can, anything else doesn't compare. xfm, oh dear. I haven't listened since the last song I heard one night was something by Ocean Colour Scene, and the first the next morning was U2's Discotechque. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:53:29 +0200 From: "PJMiller" Subject: Sinister: Runarooooooooooound NOW! *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Doctor Paul wrote: Stuart Murdoch took us all on a two minute diversion from the >stage about "Mike Read's Runaround" (for those not called "Peter >Miller" it was a UK kids TV programme in the 80s). He concluded we >were all "too young" when we didn't respond to jokes about orange >balls. Linda and I coughed a little. Not only was it a fantastic telly treat, it was also a smashing quiz book. I bought it in WHSmiths in Canaervon/Canaerfffffon (?), for ages afterwards I thought WHSmiths was a good shop. Just to elaborate a little on Doctor Paul's description, Runaround was a bit like Twister, only with questions. It was presented by Cockney Wanker from Viz. The game Twister, not the film. on page 10 of the MM >you'll see a "What's It All About" article about... "List Songs". >The big lazy gits nicked it from OUR list! There's apparently a lot >of your own examples on there. Next week expect "What's It All >About... Newt Mating Dances on Mike Read's Runaround". It's not the first time we've been plundered, is it? I remember Uncle Trousers pointing out a similar case of grand list larceny some time ago. Let's try and throw them off the scent.... Here's another of those ironic song combinations..oh dear...I can hardly type for tittering...the kids will love this....OH LORD, WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ME AND THE MAJOR? by BIG MAY-BELLE AND SEBASTIAN!!!! Oh no! I've wet myself... The newt tank's a fine and private place, but no kingfishers, I think, do there embrace. Today I saw Mister Kingfisher again, and he tried to throw me off the trail by darting under the bridge and flying upstream. Undeterred, I followed quietly. I saw it by standing by the side of the stream in the distance, so I stood stock still and waited. And waited. And waited..... A few minutes later it transpired that I had been patiently waiting for an empty Nestea can to fly off. What a silly billy! Thanks to Andrew for the reviews. That Melody Maker one is poo, but at least NME were nice. I was fully expecting a lengthy vendetta from them. Starsky and Hutch ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:42:00 +0100 From: "Simpson, Claire E" Subject: Sinister: Good news and Bad *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Good Morning All! Well the good news is I have just managed to get 2 tickets to the gig on Monday, so I am more that a little excited. The bad news is that now only two of the three of us get to go, so there is a very pouty man walking round London as we speak. I know this is a long shot, but if anyone out there has a spare ticket, or knows a man who has, you could potentially make my friend very happy indeed!! Meanwhile, have an excellent weekend thinking of TBWTAS and the show on Monday. Huzzah!! Claire ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:53:46 +0000 From: Mark Iles Subject: Sinister: Leeds gig *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* I'm going to the Leeds gig tonight with a friend (that's the good news). He's coming from Derby straight after work and can't make it until 8.20 (that's the bad news). So does anyone know what time the bands are going to be on stage (ie. what time will Elliot Smith start)? Am I going to have to go in without him and meet him in there, or am I safe waiting that late? If anyone knows, could they email me privately, as I'm on the digest and might not get the reply in time othwerwise. Thanks. Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ Mark Iles, Tel: +44 (0113) 2065042 Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Fax: +44 (0113) 2340183 Genetic Epidemiology Laboratory, Ashley Wing, Email: iles at boreas.leeds.icnet.uk St James's University Hospital, Beckett Street, Leeds, "I liked it so much I bought the LS9 7TF company. Shaves as close as a blade U.K. or your money back." - The Rubaiyat of Victor Khayyam ____________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ End of sinister-digest V2 #326 ****************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . ----- Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list ----- . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe . send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to . "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, . FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . ----- Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa ----- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . Digest users: PLEASE REMEMBER to send replies to the list DONT JUST . REPLY! 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rodbegbie at xxx.com Fri Sep 4 14:56:25 1998 From: rodbegbie at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 06:56:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: London meet-up Message-ID: <19980904135625.2398.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hey people! 2 questions: 1) Has anything been confirmed for meeting up on Monday? (I've had a quick skim through the archive, but couldn't see anything) 2) Does anyone know a cheap copy-shop in central London that'll photocopy an image onto a T-shirt? (ELVIS LIVES - http://www.begbie.com/junk/elvis.jpg) Luv you all, The Rodster. == -- Rod Begbie -- rod at begbie.com -- http://www.begbie.com -- Please ignore the piece-of-crap advertisment that follows _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lapis at xxx.edu Fri Sep 4 15:00:25 1998 From: lapis at xxx.edu (dave cohen) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:00:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: philly gig Message-ID: <199809041400.KAA21277@pobox.upenn.edu> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* paige queried-- Can anyone give me information on how to purchase tickets for the Philadelphia PA show at the Troc? Feel free to reply privately if you like. Thanks, Paige Prosella at grovereference.com tickets should be available at the Troc boxoffice generally open mon-fri 12-6, but CALL em at (215) 922-6888, cuz they are not always there when supposed to be [10th & Arch] also tickest are available at your local ticketmaster outlet, phone order, on-line order...of course you'll have to pay the service fee... hope that helps --dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rodbegbie at xxx.com Fri Sep 4 15:45:53 1998 From: rodbegbie at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 07:45:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Re: London meet-up Message-ID: <19980904144553.21721.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* ---Rod Begbie wrote: > 1) Has anything been confirmed for meeting up on Monday? (I've had a > quick skim through the archive, but couldn't see anything) Ignore me! I've found the info now (imagine hiding it away on the official website!), and I'll see you on Monday, 6.30ish, possibly in an Elvis the Cat t-shirt. Rod. == -- Rod Begbie -- rod at begbie.com -- http://www.begbie.com -- Please ignore the piece-of-crap advertisment that follows _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tton at xxx.edu Fri Sep 4 15:49:50 1998 From: tton at xxx.edu (THAIAN N TON) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:49:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Lecture Thoughts Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* I think i'm going to stand up in lecture on tuesday and proclaim I LOVE THE BOY WITH AN ARAB STRAP for a belle & sebastian moment. since i can't go to the release party i can at least make a joyful noise about the cd +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From m.wimbury at xxx.uk Fri Sep 4 15:55:59 1998 From: m.wimbury at xxx.uk (MATTHEW WIMBURY) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 15:55:59 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Titles Message-ID: <199809041455.PAA25534@unixa.lancs.ac.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* I have no doubt that the new L.P will be fantastic but I have to say I not in a long time seen a worse album title than The Boy With The Arab Strap or song title than Chickfactor. Normally their bizarre song titles are great but these two are pish. Never mind....thats my only gripe I've had about B+S ever since I got into them apart from the continued lack of rerelease of Tigermilk and the fact that I still haven't got hold of a couple of the unreleased tracks, though obviously that last one isn't their fault..... Matt. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From m.wimbury at xxx.uk Fri Sep 4 16:09:50 1998 From: m.wimbury at xxx.uk (MATTHEW WIMBURY) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 16:09:50 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Sleep The Clock Around Message-ID: <199809041509.QAA27425@unixa.lancs.ac.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Just listening to this song again, I'd forgotten it will be on the new album, hell it's even better than It Could Have Been A Brilliant Career. I am even happier and even more in anticipation of Monday now...wow Happy Bunny. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Scott_Turner at xxx.COM Fri Sep 4 16:24:06 1998 From: Scott_Turner at xxx.COM (Scott Turner) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:24:06 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Titles Message-ID: <85256675.00544075.00@JHMAIL.JH.COM> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hi Matt, why do you think the song titles are so pish? Both are references: one to a ny zine and the other to another scottish band- both of which endow meaning to the songs? so why so pish? .scott On 4 September at 14:55 GMT, MATTHEW WIMBURY *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hey kids! bethey is on the phone right now, as I write, back from holiday. Despite there being a hurricane in Nottingham, bethey and I are going to have a picnic in nottingham. We will be sitting in the recreation ground at the top of the lenton boulevard at 5:30. If you don't know where that is, look at my map at http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/map.jpg Come if you want to (you might want to bring a mac). Also, bring some chocolate or fruit or even a pork pie and a thermos flask of a beverage. Whatever....... see you? love jon g. and bethey jandb at polbox.com - http://surf.to/jongandbethey +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Fri Sep 4 17:15:28 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 17:15:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: B&S song names Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E221F3F61@server1.HITEntertainment.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Though it really threw me at first, I am now totally convinced that "the boy with the arab strap" is the absolute best name I've ever heard. I can't explain why - it struck me as vulgar, lazy and confusing to start with, but after a couple of days its ungainliness, contrariness and my inability to define what the hell it was referring to both seemed to fit in with the ethos of the band while sticking two fingers up to virtually everyone. More than anything, it Wasn't What We Were Expecting. Tigermilk, on the other hand, is a bit of a wussy name for an album by a fey bunch of indie bedroom boys and girls. I always feel a bit squeamish when, in their lyrics, B&S provide fodder for those who idly pigeonhole them (the beginning of A Summer Wasting, say, which has taken over from Seeing Other People as my least-liked number). But it's a very minor complaint - no band ever has had be literally bouncing round the room (or, on some more scary occasions, my car) simply thanks to the beauty of the words - I've always been a music man, with the lyrics being an added bonus if they're good. But one listen to "You made me forget my dreams" (specially the verse about rockets), or LLPJ, or ...Sinister, or Expectations...I could go on and on... There you go. 275,160 seconds until B&S come on stage in Shprd's Bsh, and I'll be breathless for every one. My love is growing, Biondino +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Fri Sep 4 17:36:10 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 12:36:10 -0400 Subject: Sinister: CMJ Online review Message-ID: <35F016FB.E5751A9D@bigfoot.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Oh, goody! I get to supply the list with yet another TBWTAS review, this one from the CMJ online site (which has two reviews with audio samples a day...it's a good source for new music, w/ lots of variety ). The audio samples are of the title track and, ahem, "Sleep Around the Clock". Steve Lamacq doing the typing, apparently. ****************** Belle & Sebastian's third album reveals the Glasgow, Scotland band's recent growth without losing any of the magic of 1997's acclaimed If You're Feeling Sinister. Frontman Stuart Murdoch is helped by greater songwriting and vocal contributions from his seven bandmates. The album builds on the band's gentle blend of orchestral pop (keyboards, horns and strings) and acoustic folk while incorporating more dynamic elements, including whispered vocals and cacophonous horns and drums. The song titles suggest that Belle & Sebastian's fascination with misfit adolescents may have been replaced with an obsession with the music world. Luckily, "Seymour Stein" turns out to be only partly about the band's (real or imagined?) dinner with the Sire Records President, and the standout title track is really the story of troubled personalities, not an homage to fellow Glaswegians and labelmates Arab Strap. The bittersweet lyrics here are not only more introspective, but also increasingly poetic and clever (a favorite: "We all know you're soft 'cause we've all seen you dancing/We all know you're hard 'cause we've all seen you drinking from noon until noon again"). -- Wendy Mitchell ********** If you ask me (I'm aware that you didn't), this is one of the better reviews that I've read. It seems like everyone else is writing almost exactly the same review. It starts out with mentioning how shy they are, talks about the acclaim that IYFS got (okay, this has that one), talks about Stuart Murdoch not singing all the songs anymore, and usually just ends up coming to the shocking conclusion that B&S are gentle and pretty. Blech. By the way, speaking of Stuart Murdoch and the songwriting...Isobel didn't write "Is It Wicked Not to Care" did she? And did Stevie write "Seymour Stein" and "Chick Factor"? Did he write "Wrong Love"? Or is Stuart M. just getting other people to sing his songs? That one review that said that Stuart M. "hogs" the songwriting credit is total bunk. I can't even find songwriting credit on any of the sleeves. ~Reid +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Scott_Turner at xxx.COM Fri Sep 4 17:56:36 1998 From: Scott_Turner at xxx.COM (Scott Turner) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:56:36 -0400 Subject: Sinister: B&S song names Message-ID: <85256675.005CE74E.00@JHMAIL.JH.COM> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* On 4 September at 16:15 GMT, Mark Casarotto > Does that mean you don't need the arab strap anymore?? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zulu at xxx.uk Fri Sep 4 18:10:40 1998 From: zulu at xxx.uk (Colin Campbell) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:10:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: (s)Tow college Message-ID: <199809041710.SAA01100@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hiya kiddies, and grownups too. I saw a funny thing on the telly today. It was on the scottish news about a truck that had crashed over a wall leaving the driver's cab hanging over the edge. Wait for it, B&S content coming up, the wall was beside stow college and on the side of the truck it said Murdoch. Well fuck me if that isn't the darndest thing. love to you all colin. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net Fri Sep 4 19:57:11 1998 From: geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net (.j 0n) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:57:11 +0000 Subject: Sinister: gig-gles Message-ID: <199809041800.TAA01682@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* are there any after show happenings going on after the nottingham / london gigs or stuff happening before ? no-one ever tells me anything bye .j 0n +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kingc at xxx.ph Fri Sep 4 16:09:55 1998 From: kingc at xxx.ph (Claire King) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 23:09:55 +0800 Subject: Sinister: La Cigale (sans fourmis) Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Is anyone on the list going to the show at La Cigale? From my favourite striking airlines, Northwest, IÂ’m trying to wheedle a free stopover in Paris en route to DC from Manila (Philippines) so do any listees know if the date posted to the list (6 October) is tentative or certain? IÂ’m going to try to drag my friend Jean-Michel to the gig but he says B&S is “un peu trop mievre” - a translation of which might be “a bit too twee” or “mawkish.” (Francophones de la liste, s.v.p. aidez-moi avec cette traduction inexacte!) Is there a Parisian branch of our cult (I mean list) organizing a Sinister outing? E-mail me if youÂ’d like to meet up for the show or for a picnic or something. I will bring along Jean-Michel, who is preparing for le CAPES and needs an enforced break, and we can collectively convert (I mean enlighten) him. Claire P.S. Oon, when will you be returning to Thailand? I was in Bangkok (clinic in Patpong, so near your flat, I think) for a few days this week but you were apparently busy raiding all of Glasgow's record shops! Vicariously, I am enjoying every moment! Enjoy yourself at the gigs and bring back lots of Marmite and digestives. Y-a-tÂ’il quelquÂ’un soit en France soit en Angleterre qui voudrait mÂ’accompagner au concert de Belle & Sebastian a la Cigale? Retournant chez moi des Philippines, je pense faire une escale a Paris le 6 octobre. Mais cette date est-elle provisoire ou definitive? Et savez-vous comment je pourrais acheter des billets par carte bancaire (et, si possible, par telephone des Philippines!)? Contactez-moi si vous projetez dÂ’aller au concert et si une jeune femme anglaise avec un accent atroce ne vous agacerez trop! Je sejournerai chez des amis a la rue Coypel (je ne me rappelle plus lÂ’arrondissement) et je serai tres contente de faire la connaissance des enthousiastes sinistres (ou plutot “des adherents du Sinister”?!) a Paris. Une grenouille manquee +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cranbeau at xxx.edu Fri Sep 4 22:05:25 1998 From: cranbeau at xxx.edu (Travis Hibbs) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 16:05:25 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Sandra & all, directions to Chicago Message-ID: <35F05610.4531CAC6@ou.edu> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hey Sandra and everyone thinking about going to the chicago show, There's a really great map site at http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py Enter in the Metro's address into the address field onscreen: 3730 North Clark Chicago, IL 60613 The net will give you a map of the address and the surrounding area. Under the map is button that says "Driving Directions." Press that button and a screen will come up where you can enter *your* address and then make a map from your house to the Metro! Print it out, it is sooooo useful. When I went to Chicago last spring, I didn't buy a map till I got to the city. The "Map IT" page gave me accurate directions all the way from Norman, Oklahoma. I would definitely tell you to get a map of downtown Chicago, though. Good luck all! Travis P.S. Feel free to email me if anyone wants to meet up there. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Gwanfam at xxx.com Fri Sep 4 22:00:10 1998 From: Gwanfam at xxx.com (Gwanfam at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 17:00:10 EDT Subject: Sinister: Nottingham - Wanted Urgently!!! Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hi! My girlfriend and me were really looking forward to going to see B&S at Nottingham on Saturday (errr....tomorrow!). Only thing is....we forgot to buy any tickets and its (obviously) sold out. If anyone has TWO spare tickets to the Nottingham gig that we could buy we would be forever grateful if you could get in touch. Obviously, speed is the essence and so if anyone has spare tickets then please call me on 01476-576104 or alternatively email me on gwanfam at aol.com. With time running out, we can only come and collect tickets from within a 50 mile radius of Nottingham, Please, Please, Please could someone help!!!!! Many Thanks Dave. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TFertig3 at xxx.com Fri Sep 4 23:05:35 1998 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:05:35 EDT Subject: Sinister: the boy's gone wrong again Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* I bought the new album today and it is pretty darn good, but not as good as the other stuff. Anyway, I voted for the songs, don't everybody forget to do that! Is Tigermilk instrumental so horribly bad that it deserves a 1.8 or something like that?! What does it sound like? I got my tickets for the Philadelphia show yesterday. Does anyone know when the NY tickets are going on sale? Gotta go listen more, bye! Tami. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From secret_goldfish at xxx.com Fri Sep 4 23:13:17 1998 From: secret_goldfish at xxx.com (Samantha Keppler) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 15:13:17 PDT Subject: Sinister: B+S Gig - Ages? Message-ID: <19980904221318.4679.qmail@hotmail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Anyone know if the Athens, Georgia gig is going to be a 18+ or 21+ show? I hope not, coz I'm only 17 and I dont want to miss it! :( Reply privately. Thanx -Amber ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Sat Sep 5 00:05:12 1998 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:05:12 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re. Sinister: chicago? In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980904091028.0090f300@mail.accu-staff.com> Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Chicago-area listmembers, write me if you're interested in meeting at the show (or for general-purpose email/chat etc.) Most everyone here seems so kind and literate, and one could certainly do much worse... I'd better buy that ticket sooner than later! You too. --Mark __ Imminent: SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 "The electricity is no better off than on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nicola4230 at xxx.com Sat Sep 5 03:06:25 1998 From: Nicola4230 at xxx.com (Nicola4230 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 22:06:25 EDT Subject: Sinister: Sinister Bay Area Gathering for interested Bay Area Peeps Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Anybody who is interested in getting together on Labor Day in San Francisco for a sneak preview of the album, or just to meet other fans and have some snacks & some drinks, is invited to our wee gathering at Kate O'Briens. Details as follows- Date: Mon Sept 7th Time: 3 PM to whenever What: Playing the music of B&S, snacks, chatting, games Where: Kate O'Brien's Irish pub (579 Howard @ Second Street) **Note this is a pub, and therefore 21+ establishment. *Sincerest* apologies to anyone this may exclude - FWIW my experiences there have been that they are not strict on carding. Hopefully this does not leave out anybody who would like to come. We'll have a sign or display up so that you will be able to figure us out. It'll be a casual affair, come join us if you're not too hungover from the night before! If more info is needed, you can call me at (415) 285-1805 but shh! don't let my roommate know I just gave our phone number out to a bunch of strangers. Tata! tara +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jon.g at xxx.com Sat Sep 5 09:31:11 1998 From: jon.g at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 09:31:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Times 'Metro' section review of The Boy Message-ID: <01bdd8a7$899010a0$74edabc3@dell> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hey kids! My dad reads the Times - this is the review from the Metro section today: " [picture] BELLE & SEBASTIAN The Boy with the Arab Strap (Jeepster) BELLE AND Sebastian are an elegant construction. They combine the dextrous instrumentation of Tindersticks, the evocative lyricisim of the Go Betweens and the pastoral melancholy of Nick Drake. And they are often breathtakingly beautiful, as proved on 1997's three EPs, which featured the stunning Lazy Line Painter Jane. Despite shunning publicity, they have built themselves a loyal following. While their second (? - jon) album doesn't quite reach the heights of the EPs, the consistent songwriting will keep the fans happy and ensnare more. Seymour Stein, for instance, is lazily luscious, and the rumbustious folk Motown of Dirty Dream Number Two infectious. And the way the title track lifts the opening of Queen's Crazy Little Thing Called Love before embarking on a tale of seedy sex is delicious. Paul Connolly " The metro section is regional, so the nottingham gig is not featured in my copy, but if you look on the website: " The Big Gig BELLE & SEBASTIAN IF YOU are not familiar with the music of Belle & Sebastian (above), this Scottish group is not going to help you out much. They seem bemused by publicity and do not do anything to help sell their calm, fertile music which follows the same path as bands such as Teenage Fanclub, Jesus and Mary Chain, Arab Strap and Mogwai. It may sound like a cliché, but you only need to listen to their new album, The Boy With the Arab Strap, out on Monday on Jeepster records, to feel included in their post-folk music. And their appeal is growing: the date at the 2,000-capacity Shepherds Bush Empire sold out two weeks ago. The band are currently planning another, massive London gig in a location to cope with their large volume of fans. This is the future; groups who put themselves, and their music, ahead of the machinations of the music industry hype machine. CHARLIE PORTER Marcus Garley Centre, Nottingham, September 5, 7pm, £9 (0115-915 0025); Shepherds Bush Empire, London, September 7, 7pm, sold out (0171-771 2000) " The Telegraph wrote: " Belle and Sebastian Whimsical seven-piece ensemble from Glasgow, with a small but evangelical following; their music is an abnormally quiet amalgam of disparate influences. Marcus Garvey Centre, Nottingham (0115 942 0281), today; Shepherd's Bush Empire, London W12 (0181-740 7474), Mon. " So there you go. See you Nottingham hipsters later, There's not going to be a hurricane anymore. which is nice. love jon g. jon.g at btinternet.com - http://surf.to/jongandbethey +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Sat Sep 5 12:40:30 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 13:40:30 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Doh! Message-ID: <01bdd8c1$fcbeeaa0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Oh dear! I got last night's meet-up details wrong and spent the entire evening drinking pints and having fights in The Ship. You'll never gues who I bumped into in the bogs - Fisty Hugh! He'd got in a bit of a muddle too. Thanks to all the UNKLE collaborators, positive and negative. I think I'll give it a miss, at least for the time being. Boz-eyed plonker's fault, more than anything. Junior Byles rules, as does Ooon's tape. Duke, I was just about to read your Cock Fun piece when the fimiliar strains of the world's most popular plinky plonk piano came wafting from the telly, so I spent the next hour and a half or so watching Mike Oldfield from Horseguard's Parade. It was quite good. He's gone dancey. I never knew he was responsible for that song "Leave Me Alone, I'm a Family Man", I thought that was Hall and Oates. I liked them, they had the look. I digress. Why not send it in to the list, Duke? We can see how it compares to the Daily Record piece. Am I alone in considering an appearance in the Daily Record to be the pinnacle of any artist's career? Funkyseb: I also dreamt that Stuart was running over all the flowers in the world in his great big bus. I rang the bell, but he carried on until every one was flattened. I think that answers my question about Funkyfags, and their Funkyeffect on Funkyseb. I like this dream very much. Genevieve: monsieur bobby chariot,you're an odd little monkey,but you make me laugh in this bitter state. I think that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me. I'm walking on air. Reid: By the way, speaking of Stuart Murdoch and the songwriting...Isobel didn't write "Is It Wicked Not to Care" did she? And did Stevie write "Seymour Stein" and "Chick Factor"? Did he write "Wrong Love"? Or is Stuart M. just getting other people to sing his songs? I think she did, it's a bit different to the Murdoch songs (I think). I don't know about the other two though. Because I haven't got the record yet!!! What on earth am I on about? Confused, but happy, Monsieur Bobby Chariot. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From monroej at xxx.com Sat Sep 5 15:02:02 1998 From: monroej at xxx.com (John F. Monroe) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 07:02:02 -0700 Subject: Sinister: B&S Chicago metro show tickets go on sale today Message-ID: <016a01bdd8d5$c9b11020$4053cfa9@monroej.execpc> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* from the ticketmaster site: BELLE & SEBASTIAN MUST BE 18 & OVER METRO 3730 N. CLARK CHICAGO MON OCT 26 1998 8:00 PM Internet Onsale: Sep 5 1998 at 12:00PM I am guessing tiockets are still $14 , plus service charge for ticketmaster. Directions? Well, find Wrigley Field on a map ( at the intersection of Clark and Addison, both big streets ). Park anywhere on a main street within your comfortable walking distance of there. The area can be a real hassle, plan on time to just look for parking spaces, and realize all side streets, which used to be useful for parking, are now controlled such that you need a special sticker to park there, and I wouldn't risk coming out of the show to find the car towed. The Metro is about three blocks north on Clark from the Friendly Confines of Wrigley. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Sat Sep 5 20:11:10 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:11:10 EDT Subject: Sinister: Whatever happened to Reece Dinsdale? Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* You know, this was really meant to be my last post to the list. I should be living the bohemian life in my London skyscraper by now. I'd planned something witty, yet poignant; something that would make you all rush to the digests and read all my other gems, and realise how different the list would be without me. 'To Funkyseb' you'd toast, 'we may never see his like again.' But London has let me down again. So I sit here, on my suitcase, wondering what to do next. The tang of autumn is in the air, and I feel like the last swallow to migrate. Maybe I've already left it too late. Anyway, I'll be staying for a while I suppose., both in the sticks and on the list, until I work out what to do next. And if anyone on the list in the capital knows of a cheap spare room going, then please, let me know. This post doesn't really have an ending, feel free write your own. seb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Sat Sep 5 20:58:16 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:58:16 EDT Subject: Sinister: Grauniad reivew and othre stuff Message-ID: <726d8ee6.35f197d8@aol.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hello :-) sorry about sending my last sulk to the list twice, I'm just feeling a bit moody and incompetent today. Anyway, I thought I'd send in this, as long as no one's already done it: Two bits from The Guide: P!O!P!: Belle and Sebastian You used to know where you were with Belle and Sebastian. The Glasgow octet produced delicate tunes that had as much to do with the spaces between the notes as with the notes themselves.They maintained a willful silence about their private lives, refused to be interviewed and disingenuously claimed to be uninfluenced by the music business. Interesting, then, to read what amounts to a legal notice on the back of their new album, The Boy with the Arab Strap: ''Belle Et Sebastien is a novel by Madame Cecile Aubry about a boy, Sebastien, and his Pyrrennees mountain dog, Belle. Although it is little to do with the eight of us playing music, that is where the name came from. We are grateful to Mme Aubry for letting us use the name until now.'' On the album itself are tracks like Seymour Stain, a paean to to the head of a New York record company, and Chickfactor, a ditty about the joys of touring America. Is it all going weird for Belle and Sebastian, or will this show be reassuringly small and quirky? Theres another bit, but it says pretty much the same thing, 'blah blah pretty, blah blah willful....go and see.' I'm fascinated by this disclaimer though-I don't remember seeing it posted before. I remember the discussion though, but I thought it was a silly rumour. 'until now..', doeas this mean a name change is inevitable? I still say stuff the old bag, but I suppose they have to be tactful. Nice combination of grovelling and insolence though. Incidentally, I was wandering around Wigmore St today, looking for support tights and feeling pretty fed up, when I turn a corner and WOW! I'm confronted with a huge poster for The Boy with the Arab Strap. I just stood there, pointing at it, and grinning like mad!I was tempted to peel it off the wall, 'cause it was still damp, but then no-one else would get to see it, so I didn't. I like the title now, it looks...right. And like Mark said, it's got the right tone, Innocence and smuttyness. Marvellous. The best bit about the poster is the fact that it doesn't have B&S' name on it. At all. Anywhere. Now that's willful :-) Incidentally, d'you know what they call us on the Chemikal Underground list? >>'the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list' disgraceful! seb, still after a flat.and a job. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JMoorkens at xxx.ie Sat Sep 5 18:59:16 1998 From: JMoorkens at xxx.ie (Joss Moorkens) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 18:59:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re: CMJ review/Doh Message-ID: <51EBF97B44A8D111B6650000F805734C1ADFD0@exchmail.dublin.esat.ie> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Reid: Isobel didn't write "Is It Wicked Not to Care" did she? I thought it was an Orange Juice song. It was on the tape Ronan Barrett made me, if I remember rightly. I think my workmate is a serial killer. Help Joss +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Lefoxaroo at xxx.com Sun Sep 6 02:00:32 1998 From: Lefoxaroo at xxx.com (Lefoxaroo at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 21:00:32 EDT Subject: Sinister: does keith watson think he's a star? Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* I don't want to jump to conclusions or anything but at the after show thing at Brighton Beach in leeds, i was getting all the 'stars' autographs when this strange little fella go my TOTP POP autographs book and signed what looks to be Keith Watson. Is that keith off of this list? esteban +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MWaggner at xxx.com Sun Sep 6 05:05:21 1998 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 00:05:21 EDT Subject: Sinister: Aural Doily? There will be a Quiz Message-ID: <1de4f158.35f20a01@aol.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Has anyone posted the review from the NY Daily News? Probably not, as no one will admit to reading that paper. Except the person who sent this to me. I'll type it out here, and await the reaction (come on, it promises to be a long weekend and Farber deserves all he gets) but please, don't shoot the messenger, ok? __________________________________________________________________ JINGLE BELLE & SEBASTIAN by Jim Farber, NY Daily News, Tuesday, Sept. 1, 1998 Scot band's mean but twinkling LP is one among some interesting new releases "You can't always believe your ears when you listen to Scotland's Belle & Sebastian. Its highly mannered folk rock sounds prim and polite, like an aural doily. But its lyrics bristle with sarcasm, irony, even cruelty. Such a pitched combination made the group's 1997 debut, "If You're Feeling Sinister," one of the more subtle (and more playable) albums of the year, not to mention one of the more critically adored. The new album continues in the same vein. Its twinkling melodies, fey vocals and dancing arrangements suggest a magical intersection of three mid-'60s styles, which all cross the last days of lounge music with the emerging folk rock of the day. You'll hear the summery West Coast sounds of The Mamas & Pappas or the early Byrds, mixed with the chaste English balladry of Mary Hopkin or Marianne Faithfull, plus the muted peppy horns of Burt Bacharach. "It Could Have Been a Brilliant Career" might have been performed by Simon and Garfunkel in '66. Which only mkes its mean lyrics that much more jarring. Here, the narrator nearly chuckles over a painter who suffered a stroke at 24 because the band considers his work "a sham that's going for a grand." The equally withering "Sleep the Clock Around" offers an ode to a depressed ne'er-do-well, matched to a woozy moog hook. The band's lyrical barbs can get obnoxious, as in "Seymour Stein," which condemns the music industry impresario named in its title for daring to try to make the musicians rich and famous. Such dismissiveness blunts the album's impact. As much joy as its jingle- jangle music holds,the band won't come to full power until it finds equal breadth and gernerosity in its words." ___________________ Points for discussion include: Maryanne Faithful: Chaste? Lounge Music + Folk Rock (emergent) = X Compare and Contrast Mick Cooke and Burt Bacharach. (Extra credit for comparison/contrast of Muted and Peppy) What is the possibilty that Mr. Farber actually listened to the cd? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SpaceboyUK at xxx.com Sun Sep 6 06:40:03 1998 From: SpaceboyUK at xxx.com (SpaceboyUK at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 01:40:03 EDT Subject: Sinister: 7 to 8 years old- well thats pretty small Message-ID: <3d911eb6.35f22033@aol.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* i had to put tat subject,even though it's lacking relativity to my comments. has anyone taped the recent sessions off the radio? if you have,that would be very cool if i could get those. or for trade,if necessary. thank you. cheers. -a.james +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jon.g at xxx.com Sun Sep 6 08:44:22 1998 From: jon.g at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 08:44:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Nottingham Message-ID: <01bdd96a$2a119cc0$LocalHost@dell> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* It was way too hot and we were all packed in and we couldn't breath and this silly man was shouting 'Dylan' at Stuart all the time, but Belle & Sebastian were *wicked*. Elliot Smith was OK. And it rained sort of, so we didn't turn up to our own picnic. It was a night to remember. I still smell of smoke. There's a lot to be said for no-smoking venues. David & Katrina were really busy selling huge posters and Sinister, Arab Strap and Stow T-shirts and badges and ink polaroids. I think David knew who I was though. I'm sure Chris Geddes was looking at me when he looked up from his Wurlitzer. But, the band were just sooooooo good - they'd obviously been rehearsing a lot and it paid off. The new stuff is excellent and they played it well. love jon g. jon.g at btinternet.com - http://surf.to/jongandbethey +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tangent at xxx.net Sun Sep 6 14:45:21 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 14:45:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Nottingham Blues References: <01bdd96a$2a119cc0$LocalHost@dell> Message-ID: <35F291F1.83F5EF9D@lineone.net> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* jon g. wrote: > It was way too hot and we were all packed in and we couldn't breath it was way too hot, and if, like me, you get uptight in crowds, well it wasn't fun. > Belle & Sebastian were *wicked*. they played well, but you couldn't hear them. the band really seem to be in a tough situation: they either turn the volume up and risk losing their non-rock chamber orchestra feel, or they decide 'bugger the fans' and refuse to play any venue that is either too big or is not seated, or at least lovely to be in kind of deal. Does anyone understand what i'm saying? i guess it comes down to: the really 'dedicated' fans would have got their shit together and got tickets for a venue half the size and all the hangers on who probably just went cos it was meant to be 'hip' or something (i dunno, i'm making this up as i go) would have been left out in the cold, and that's just fine. i couldn't go too far forward cos like i say i really hate big crushy crowds, and always have, and if i'd been down with the kids i'd have had panic attacks and not enjoyed myself, but, um, where i was at the back all i could hear were the loud obnoxious voices of twatty boys (mostly) who just didn't seem to be interested in anything except drinking beer and eyeing up the women. God, i hate people... > Elliot Smith was OK. elliot smith was very dull. i love his records, but in that space it made no sense... and i don't think that's JUST my preference for intimate spaces/preformances talking. > It was a night to remember. I still smell of smoke. There's a lot to be > said for no-smoking venues. my eyes were getting well fucked by the end of the show... i felt kind of miserable, as anyone who tried to talk to me would concur with wholeheartedly. Can i just say to the few listees who were there and around Tim, um, i'm really sorry for being so rude and twatty and stuff, but like i said, i get real uncomfortable in big crowds, and i'm not very good meeting people unless it's in, say, a nice bar with lots of alcohol in me. I'm a tit, i know. Special sorry's to Pam, Tag, Stephane and Suzzanah, who as of now is my list crush :-) > David & Katrina were really busy selling huge posters and Sinister, Arab > Strap and Stow T-shirts and badges and ink polaroids. I think David knew > who I was though. i'm sorry i didn't say hello to david and katrina, hopefully i'll see more of everyone in the pub pre-show in London. i'll try and be nicer then. > I'm sure Chris Geddes was looking at me when he looked up from his > Wurlitzer. Chris Geddes looked at me when he was coming into the venue. Stuart D had forgotten his pass and the door staff wanted to ID him. i tried to say he wasn't Stuart David, I was, and this imposter had stolen all my ideas, but Chris looked like he wouldn't have got the joke and would probably have twatted me. Chris is hard. Actually i didn't like Staurt moaning about people 'stealing' his ink polaroids idea in the MM Looper thing, it sounded really weak. Like no-one was writing flash fiction before he did, and no-one has been writing the way he talks about either. Nothing is original, if you don't steal ideas you don't make much progress... although you have to make what you steal personal, but hey... I'm just feeling like moaning today. still keeping the faith in spite of myself, the duke PS If ever i say i want to go see a band in a venue larger than my living room again, re-post this message to me, okay? -- 'all of our dreams are dying of overdoses' Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Sun Sep 6 16:44:27 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (JJ) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 16:44:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Nottingham/Leeds parallels References: <01bdd96a$2a119cc0$LocalHost@dell> <35F291F1.83F5EF9D@lineone.net> Message-ID: <35F2ADDB.5496@seahouses.u-net.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* duke of harringay wrote: > jon g. wrote: > > It was way too hot and we were all packed in and we couldn't breath It was this way at Leeds too. Inside the City Varieties Hall it was dead hot and slightly unpleasant. > > Belle & Sebastian were *wicked*. > > they played well, but you couldn't hear them. In Leeds they sounded good, nice and clear. You could hear everything. Especially those wankers at the right at the back who shouted to each other during the whole thing. Did you get hecklers at Nottingham? In Leeds there was this fuckwit who kept shouting at Stuart. > > Elliot Smith was OK. > > elliot smith was very dull. I didn't like Elliot Smith in Leeds. All his songs sounded the same and they were really boring. Best bit was when he put down a heckler with a neat little "I've brought you a present from New York" line. Has anyone posted about Leeds yet? I can't remember. They didn't play enough new stuff I reckon. The best bit was when Tag showed me a photo of him and a horse. Oh, and we met the lovely Nick Dastoor. And it's always a pleasure being near Keith M Watson. Byeee! JJ xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net Sun Sep 6 18:01:18 1998 From: geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net (.j 0n) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 17:01:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Nottingham Poos In-Reply-To: <35F291F1.83F5EF9D@lineone.net> Message-ID: <199809061604.RAA29737@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > it was way too hot, and if, like me, you get uptight in crowds, well it > wasn't fun. they kept asking for the lights to be turned down. stevie was sweating a lot. > they played well, but you couldn't hear them. someone shouted that they couldnt hear them and stuart.m didnt know what to do. he looked to the rest of the band but they looked equally bewildered > elliot smith was very dull. he was very mean looking when he came in for his sound check. i felt a little scared. but when he waved goodbye after his set he didnt look so threatening > Chris Geddes looked at me when he was coming into the venue. i have his water bottle. he dropped it down to me just before walking off stage. quite handy cous i was gasping for a drink. umm i thought it was a good gig - but better than the first manchester ones here's looking forward to london... bye bye .j 0n +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pamelab at xxx.com Sun Sep 6 19:52:36 1998 From: pamelab at xxx.com (pamela berry) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 19:52:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Nottingham & Leeds, f'chrissakes Message-ID: <35F2D9F4.4BC04B39@mcmail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Well, loathe as I am to post anything to do with B&S or real, actual events to this list, I've just scanned the most relevant of the last 40-odd posts and I just have to write... I simply cannot believe people are moaning or damning with faint praise the weekend's gigs. Leeds was astonishing; I'm 30 years old and I've been to more live music events than I care to remember, and this, friends, was numero uno. I've never seen anything better in my life. A beautiful venue too... a genuine all-seated music hall with, hey, two (count 'em) balconies, tucked away down a little alley. Nottingham - ok, too hot, pretty poor acoustically and difficult for anyone under 5'8" to see anything. But, still, I feel the band transcended the awkwardness of the surroundings. Not a single song was repeated from the previous night (I'm sure someone more diligent than I will ultimately post the full set-lists), and yet you really couldn't say it was a weaker performance. Extraordinary. Apologies to those whose experiences did not parallel mine; being in the vicinity of the sort of pricks whose brains seize up if they don't keep shouting at each other is usually enough to ruin any occasion (I think this explains the 'too quiet' complaints regarding Saturday; it was fine up front, terribly frustrating further back - I know, I made my move forwards a minute into an almost inaudible 'The State I Am In'). Aside from the magic wrought by the band, how lovely it was to meet everyone... big up the Sinister massive (I'd name names but I'd only leave someone out and be wracked by guilt until... ooh, at least Monday). Y'know, they really are the best band in the world. It's so clear to me now... Mike. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Sun Sep 6 20:52:58 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 15:52:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: the supper club looks rad! Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* the supper club is very pretty. it has dark blue walls and gold stars and moons. and the lights are stars that swirl over the dance floor. it's usually a swing club, but i've seen the tindersticks (w/ elliott smith opening) and luna there, so i think b&s will fit in nicely. it's fairly large, but not huge, so it probably *will* sell out fairly quickly though. in other news, there isn't any. i'm all sore throaty and achy from a cold, and so haven't been doing an awful lot. i did have a dream featuring both stuard murdoch and robert wratten the other night, but i can't remember it. i think it was a scooby doo dream, one of those where everyone runs around on a quest type thing. anyway, it really sucks that air and b&s in philly is the same night. damn the choices!!! oh well, i *will* see them. xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grabutcho at xxx.com Sun Sep 6 21:29:46 1998 From: grabutcho at xxx.com (Julien Boëldieu) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 13:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Sinister : a french boy dream Message-ID: <19980906202947.29329.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hello all of you ! I must be dreaming. I won a ticket for the London gig (+ train + hotel) offered by B&S label on a french radio. We'll be escorted by a girl of the label (we are 4 winners). I'm so so so happy. Can't wait for tomorrow. "The boy with the Arab strap" was released last wednesday in France. My first impression was very negative -- except for "Sleep the clock around". The production really disturbed me. I found that B&S had eaten too much sugar and taken a little weight -- ie that the sound was cleaner, not so fragile as in "If you're feeling sinister" or the 1997 three ep's, and that the songs were not so delicate and good. I believed that all the magic had gone... And I was so sad.... In fact that's absolutely not the case. To me "TBWTAS" is, as we say in french, "long en bouche". It means that I had to listen to it many times to discover the hidden beauties of each songs. I appreciate them more and more and I'm now totally junkie of all of them (except "A space boy dream", which is only half a success to me). My "personal key" to this album was to listen to it first at a low volume and to take it as an evening album (that's what it is, I think). I was expecting them to make us hear twelve more "Century of fakers", but they show us that they have changed, and that's good. Now I don't want to know if the songs reach the heights of "If you're feeling sinister" or "3.. 6.. 9.. seconds of light" -- who cares indeed ? B&S melodies are used to being absolutely amazing and addictive, and they are on TBWTAS. "Sleep the clock around" is to me the great song of the album : the most amazing, the most exciting, the most creative, the most thrilling, the newest song. I love listening to "The rollercoaster ride" before sleeping, it's so nice and peaceful. I don't know why, but TBWTAS makes me remind of the Velvet Underground's "Loaded". Does anybody see what I mean ? However I find that this album is less homogenic than "If you're feeling sinister". That's right, it's a transition album. But they show on it that they have opened many new musical ways to explore. I hope that they will follow them -- instead of Divine Comedy, that had opened similar roads with the wonderful "Liberation" but that has become to me more more insignificant and uninspirated since it. Oh, ALL APOLOGIES to B&S and to my New-Yorker brother Jonny. When I wrote you on wednesday I was a little bit angry against B&S. In fact the only thing that was wrong with TBWTAS was... me. I was so focused on the sound that I had forgotten to listen to the songs and to give attention to the melodies (I must be dumb !). You can sleep well, it's a marvelous album. :) The point is that TBWTAS doesn't affect me as much as "If you're feeling sinister" which has a peculiar importance in my own history -- that's just a personal feeling. May I ask you your address in New-York ? I'll try to send you a postcard from London. :) I hope you'll answer me, kisses to everyone, Julien. PS 1 : Thanks to Marco. Your italian is cristal clear. Please go on writing me in italian. I'll write you more when I'm back from London. PS 2 : Bonjour � Aurore. Comment �tait le concert de Leeds ? J'esp�re te lire bient�t. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From john.hucker at xxx.net Sun Sep 6 21:58:40 1998 From: john.hucker at xxx.net (John Hucker) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 21:58:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I love everyone References: Message-ID: <35F2F77F.3524A2C4@virgin.net> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Here's a rare message from me - anyone listening anyway? I'm inspired to break my customary silence by the B&S Leeds gig. It was absolutley fantastic. I can't say how great it was. It was quiet and more acoustic than I'd have liked but I havn't had such a natural high since ever. My mind's been plagued - in the nicest possible way - with B&S songs ever since. Relentlessly. Over and over in my head. Maybe i'm loosing it too. There you go - not much content just the enthusiasm of a boy who done right and shared in a special experience. For anyone going to any of the remaining gigs: I hope your expectations are fully fulfilled. London tomorrow. Why didn't I get it together to buy a ticket? Anyone have a spare? Enjoy, Jxhn. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sburon at xxx.fr Sun Sep 6 22:17:23 1998 From: sburon at xxx.fr (Stephane Buron) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 23:17:23 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Back in Paris Message-ID: <35F2FBDE.2F4A@club-internet.fr> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Well, that's it... I've just arrived in Paris, after four days spent in England, four of the most wonderful days, I must say. I dont know what you've all thought about the gigs : I was too lazy to read your posts, and I thought it would be more spontaneous to tell you what I loved, liked and disliked during these four days without reading my mails. So. as I said before, I think I've just spent four of the most wonderful days of my pop life... Four days discovering railways in England (trains arrived on time, I was surprised) ; discovering Leeds and Nottingham (I thought they would be uglier, I was surprised too) ; wandering in Camden Lock when I arrived in London on the first day of my journey ; meeting lovely people (I'll come back to this later on) ; being interviewed and photographied by the Melody Maker in Leeds and then in Nottingham and then on the train from Nott to London (the journalist -a nice guy by the way- was interested by the fact we were coming especially from France to see Belle & Sebastian) ; discovering that Elliott Smith travels in the first class, even if he still wears his blue hat ; speaking with Stuart Murdoch at the end of the gig in Leeds and realizing he's a very nice guy, not especially shy ; realizing I was too shy to accept to be introduced to Isobel who was dancing in Nottingham... well you understand what I mean. I loved the two gigs as well : they were totally different, they cant be compared, actually. The first one was marvelous as far as the sound and the music are concerned : Stuart does have the voice of an angel (have you ever seen an angel sing? Well, it's easy, angels have the same voice as him), Mick Cooke was really ace with his trumpet, and the music was perfect. So clear and pure... In Nottingham, they were as excellent as the day before. Well, maybe it was too hot ; maybe the venue was too big ; but when you were standing near the stage, you forgot all these drawbacks... and Isobel sung a wonderful cover, "Poupée de cire, poupée de son"... and they played "The loneliness of the middistance runner"... (just after a short break to have diner) In fact, I read one of the messages : the Duke's... You are disappointed, dear Duke, and I see your point. As far as I am concerned, I'm disappointed by one only thing : I was too shy to introduce myself to the members of the list. I met some of them in Leeds before the gig (I especially remember Nick Dastoor, Julia, Sarah, and... Mike, is it your name? Or was it Mick? Oh god, he seemed so nice, and I've forgotten his name! Shame on me... Will you forgive me? ) The others seemed nice too, but i didnt dare and tell them "hi, I'm Stephane from Paris, you dont know me because I scarcely post on the list, but I do know you and I love you all"... It's late now, I've got to sleep... Take care Stephane -- Visitez le Tweeclub sur http://www.chez.com/tweeclub "If the sun going down can make me cry Why should I not like the way I am ? " The Field Mice +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samiam2 at xxx.com Sun Sep 6 21:41:47 1998 From: samiam2 at xxx.com (Samiam) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 16:41:47 -0400 Subject: Sinister: DC and Philadelphia Message-ID: <35F2F38B.3CC0@ix.netcom.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Is anyone getting together for the Philly show? I'm thinking of driving up from DC to see them, especially since DC dates have not been confirmed. Sam +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From afinkenbinde at xxx.Edu Sun Sep 6 22:48:29 1998 From: afinkenbinde at xxx.Edu (Annie) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 17:48:29 -0400 Subject: Sinister: east coast References: <35EBD93E.24F4@dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: <35F3032D.360E66C0@rollins.edu> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* I imagine this has already been answered a million times, but I had to take a brief hiatus from lurking while moving to school. And here is my question: where can I find information about the American tour dates? I know New York, Chicago, Philadelphia , and one more city I forget the name of have been confirmed, but will there be any others??..... perhaps a DC date around Thanksgiving (if only the world conformed to my schedule!) or maybe, hopefully, but probably not, a stop somewhere in the hellish state of Florida. it would make my miserable college a bit more tolerable. Thanks in advance (and sorry if its already been asked and responded many times before!!!), Annie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood Sun Sep 6 13:26:16 1998 From: Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood (Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood) Date: 06 Sep 1998 12:26:16 GMT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <0.86517136@andyclin.exnet.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Just got up at noon (didn't quite sleep the clock around) having driven 140 miles home last night after Nottingham. A few thoughts on the gigs On the upside, they were brilliant! B&S have finally got their live set together! No awkward ten minute gaps between songs! BRILLIANT sound quality from the PA! you could even hear the words in the quietist bits! On the downside, only an hour set each night, and no encores despite audiences stomping away for five minutes after the set. They've obviously taken to heart criticisms of their gigs up to Manchester last year, (not like them to take any notice of what people say, hope they don't make a habit of it!), and been rehearsing lots! Even their PA guy(s)! Leeds was a small intimate (and very hot) music hall, everyone (well nearly everyone...) was seated, and their very quiet sound was perfect. When one rebel shockingly stood up at the front and (sort of) danced, despite having a nasty telling off from a security person, Stuart cleverly changed the words of whatever song he was singing to say that the guy was "an anarchist, but he still ended up looking dumb". Nottingham was a big open barn of a place (and very hot). The PA was louder than at Leeds, though because of the size of the place people further back couldn't hear, and were shouting for the band to turn up. It was so hot on stage, they had to turn the lighting down, and one of the band (male!) suggested that all the girls should take off their tops. They seemed to play entirely different sets on the two nights, I didn't spot a single duplication between Leeds and Nottingham. Perhaps some nice person will mail the setlists to the list! And if anyone taped the show/s I'd love to hear from you! If they extend that policy to London, the set will be pretty short! I didn't spot any new songs, except what sounded like (maybe) a cover version sung by Ms Cellist in French. Anyone know if they've played that before? Quite a contrast to the shows a year ago, when they seemed to play half the set of new and unrecorded songs. Maybe they figure that it's too risky to play completely new things if they've not rehearsed them. (shame!). Maybe they haven't any new songs. (Hope not). Maybe they think the audience wants to hear the old favourites! (we do as well!). Maybe they want to plug the new LP (We'd buy it anyway!). Anyway, after we spent a summer waiting (almost a quote!) it was good to see they continue to be excellent! Cheers! Rocker, rocker at andyclin.exnet.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From xbudynek at xxx.jp Mon Sep 7 01:53:45 1998 From: xbudynek at xxx.jp (Julien Budynek) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 09:53:45 +0900 (JST) Subject: Sinister: Ink polaroids collection / TBWTAS Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Salut les copains, Ah ah, how sweet to live in Japan when you find out that the new LP is released on the saturday preceding its worldwide release! I felt a strange shock aswell as an adrenaline excess when I came across the fancied green cover in a record store in Kyoto. But OK, I won't spoil and talk about the songs. Though now I understand better why clapping hands is hip. OK, maybe some of you remember that I am currently collecting the inks polairoids that were submitted to the list, so that Monsieur David Kitchen can enlight the Jeepster site. So I search the archives and got most of them, then I removed the ones from the competition because they are already on line. So here are the emails of the persons who wrote these polaroids, so if you wrote one and don't see your name here, please mail me with your prose and I'll do what is to be done. By the way, thanks a lot to the people that encouraged me (azriel, james and teresa). so here we are, this is more or less by chronological order, sorry for the length of that: duke of harringay (tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk) Landmine9 at aol.com Martin Hyndman (Martin.Hyndman at smlawpub.co.uk) Stuart Gardiner (SKG at datcon.co.uk) Kelso (KELSO at mail.roadrun.com) Honey (honey at Majordomo.net) Ricky HAGGETT (R.Haggett at cs.ucl.ac.uk) Trousers - poetry place2 (poetryplace2 at easynet.co.uk) Bobby Chariot - PJMiller (pjmiller at arrakis.es) Matthew (PKHINTZ at aol.com) Rod Begbie (rod at begbie.com) John Johnston (John.Johnston at capgemini.co.uk) Anne Ward (A.Ward at gcal.ac.uk) Kristen Schaffenberger (kschaffe at trinity.edu) Jillian (suchgranddesigns at juno.com) Teri (vlass at interlog.com) Adam Robinson (adamrobinson at intelfax.co.uk) Thaian N Ton (thaiant at dino.nci.nih.gov) Tag (mctag at mcmail.com) Rory Mackie (babyblu at gold.globalcafe.co.uk) Chris Borne (chrisp1 at worldnet.att.net) PJMiller (pjmiller at arrakis.es) Vicky Parkinson (uczcvap at ucl.ac.uk) Stuart Gardiner (skg21 at hermes.cam.ac.uk) Lesley Higgins (LeslieH at WILWEL.COM) Weejay - Errington/Woodman (user at twopounds.u-net.com) Robert Mctaggart (MctaggartR at Vectratech.com) Molly (thunderw at globalnet.co.uk) azriel Joss Moorkens Molly Thaian N Ton merci et a bientot, cheers julien --- http://diane.isCool.net/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Mon Sep 7 02:11:12 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 21:11:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: thank you Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* i'd like to thank mike, julian, and stephane for their lovely letters. for once, i feel like rather than making me jealous, they made me really happy. when mike talked about the show, i almost felt like i was there. perhaps it's my mood (though i rather doubt it cause the mood isn't that pleasant) or maybe i'm just looking at things differently today, but these letters were so much nicer than those from people who complain. there is a difference between a criticism and a complaint, but i think lately a great many people have been erring toward the complaint. well, if you've seen belle and sebastian eighty times since stuart was five years old and singing choir songs, that's well and good. but why would anyone continue to go and see them if all you felt was disappointment? why bother to go if it isnt' worth your precious time? i know several of you have seen the band dozens of times and still get a special floaty feeling, and i'm not talking to you. but if you don't, maybe you should distance yourself from the band for a bit, so you can come back and maybe feel that realization of how lovely and wonderful it is, get that feeling back. my muddled little point of view. ;) xox megan, the cranky and sickly mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From parachute at xxx.net Mon Sep 7 02:57:18 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (brad) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 21:57:18 -0400 Subject: Sinister: interruption Message-ID: <35F33D7E.2E36@earthlink.net> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* now that the album is out....i can break my silence. the songs are some of the best happiest most delightful pop tunes ever written by them. but i think everything would have worked better as 3 e.p.'s rather than 1 album. as far as a complete package goes, sinister was better. as far as songs go, more of the ones on the new one make me smile and wanna dance. and i hated chickfactor when i heard it. but if you stick on the album, listen to chickfactor, and then take it off, not listening to any other songs....it's a good song. but in the context of the album, it's a fart in the middle of a symphony. if stevie happens to read this....i'm sorry. it is a good song. just not where it happened to be placed on the album. but, i have to say, and duke, maybe you could agree here.....the new lambchop is better. not really a bad guy, brad +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mphintz at xxx.com Mon Sep 7 04:41:35 1998 From: Mphintz at xxx.com (Mphintz at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 23:41:35 EDT Subject: Sinister: NYC Picnic update Message-ID: <9436daa6.35f355ef@aol.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Please note that the New York City picnic has been moved to the East River Park at 2 pm. on September 20th (NOT Tompkins Square Park). Apparently the first choice for the picnicing spot did not meet the high standards of the official Sinister Guide To Picnics so we were forced to move. (We only want the best ;-) For further information, please email me privately. :-) (Of course, everyone is welcome and invited). Living and loving Matthew mphintz at aol.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blink at xxx.net Mon Sep 7 04:37:39 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 23:37:39 -0400 Subject: Sinister: making young boys sigh References: <199809051912.UAA17325@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <35F35503.63C6@inexpress.net> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* dear people, I hope you're all good and rested from your little adventures,i'm not so bitter now...it really just school you see (and no,no scottish or welsh exchange students) it's kind of pain..it's your last year,you really just want to have fun,but then,this is the year that counts,so you actually have to learn...i don't exactly have the most marvellous teachers..our new math teacher gives you a detention for CHEWING GUM! and this other one makes you bend over to see if you're skirt is too short.. but try complaining about this to parents! they will just go 'Excuse me? I had nuns as teachers! I was beaten for breathing too loudly!' or.. 'yes i remember one time we all made a plan to drop our books at the same time! oh yes, WE were the rebels!' do any of you want some zuchinni? it just keeps growing and growing..we have 500 pounds of zuchinni bread! so did stuart do anything different on stage? did he smile sheepishly and go 'i'd like to thank you all for coming out tonight!' and rip his shirt off? did any of you throw underwear at him,you know..just as a joke.. talking about titles and words n googly stuff: i like the title of the boy with the arab strap,it's sort of lost the original 'ooh,he's so naughty' meaning tho,i think i would still prefer something a little more..belle and sebastian..well you KNOW!(i mean it's good to be different,but sometimes it's just for the sake of being different? i don't know) all those clever little lines they can come up with,a littlre more dreamy and creative maybe.. i'm starting to really like 'simple things'(is stuart singing 'to make a young boy sigh' in there?? so lovely!!) now..but it's too short..it kind of deprives you,it's good and then it just ends..but it doesn't seem like it should end so soon MORE MORE MORE ... i was looking at this painting in an ad for the Glasgow Art Fair, of this boy with those thick black glasses and there are daisies..it's a really nice picture,i didn't notice it at first,but now i keep having to look at it,it seems to me it would've made a perfect b&s cover art...(i remember walking with Arctic Woman once,and we were looking at some of the art displays from the school,and i think the topic was a self-portrait and one of them was a little clay figure all huddled up in a shoe-box, Arctic Woman thought that if stuart murdoch was in that art class,that would be his,so maybe it is good they take a stranger approach with titles instead of the dancing with kittens in the sunshine all the time etc) chickfactor (i know i know,it's a zine) it is sort of a funny word with them..you know how them boys will be like 'aww man,i got the job,got the pimpmobile! all i need now is a girl!' that's what it reminds me of..like he is missing the 'chick' factor,man. nighty night little kittens, genevieve xoxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blink at xxx.net Mon Sep 7 04:51:57 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 23:51:57 -0400 Subject: Sinister: don't try and make this a dawson thing References: <199809051912.UAA17325@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <35F3585D.3B2A@inexpress.net> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* ohh..i'm not gone yet sometimes i get upset when i see someone write 'this and this song i think is the weakest on the album' but we've all got different tastes..(how can you not like a summer wasting? stuart murdoch: staying up all night,party guy)i keep reading and it seems a lot of people like sleep the clock around best,where i like it..but not best,it's got a nice kooky flair to it actually,the little instrument doo de doo's at the beginning? even the record store boy likes that one best,but he thinks the whole album is weak...my favourite changes a lot,with the first listen i just loved dirty dream#2 so much (i really like spaceboy dream actually) and then it was ease your feet song,with it's lovely hazy sound to it,especially when stuart goes 'but what can i do?' awwww,wooshy wooshy wooshy,he's just a puddin pop...but right now it's simple things,(if only it was longer!) to me,these songs have that rich sound(more emotional maybe? dirty dream#2...'happy happy joy joy',simple things..'damn i wish i had a scottish boy who would sigh' and ease feet..'this is lovely,let's forget bad teachers that are afraid of warts') and this is strictly from the music,as i always mistake lyrics,and or can't hear them. ok,NOW i'm gone love, genevieve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From suzsch at xxx.net Mon Sep 7 05:51:38 1998 From: suzsch at xxx.net (Suzanne Schroeder) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 23:51:38 -0500 Subject: Sinister: directions abound and other stuff Message-ID: <199809070448.XAA01303@smtp1.mailsrvcs.net> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > > Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 16:05:25 -0500 > From: Travis Hibbs > Subject: Sinister: Sandra & all, directions to Chicago > > *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > > Hey Sandra and everyone thinking about going to the chicago show, > There's a really great map site at http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py > Enter in the Metro's address into the address field onscreen: > 3730 North Clark > Chicago, IL 60613 > The net will give you a map of the address and the surrounding area. > Under the map is button that says "Driving Directions." Press that > button and a screen will come up where you can enter *your* address and > then make a map from your house to the Metro! Print it out, it is > sooooo useful. > When I went to Chicago last spring, I didn't buy a map till I got to > the city. The "Map IT" page gave me accurate directions all the way > from Norman, Oklahoma. I would definitely tell you to get a map of > downtown Chicago, though. Yes, escaping from Oklahoma is a wise choice. I presume you didn't actually return. maps are ok, but do a search under the reference section in yahoo and they give all sorts of other services that provide the same. I know I'm a dunce, but the actual yahoo map site didn;'t sit well with me because it needed exact addresses and wouldn't give me a map. However, these sites are great 'coz I have no sense of direction, didn't have a map on me and was still able to make my way from boston to lowell once even when I made the mistake of packing the directions in the same part of my bag that a bottle of shampoo was in leaking all over the place smearing my lettering and gagging me with the smell of pantene the whole trip. I got there which is a shock, and if I can use it, almost anyone can. Anyway, as far as the song title debate: I really thought they were joking. True, they had songs in the past taken from movies, but to actually name an album like that with the name of a very current band is sort of strange. Most people like to be snobs and only reference obscure films or their favorite band that they grew up with. Since I'm an innocent and don't know what an arab strap is, it sounds like whips and chains to me which is cool. We can live, although this really tries to make the world sit up and take notice saying "hey, we're not a band about girls in sleeping bags and flowers and that other stuff. We are seamy love machines!" Although getting down and dirty with xylaphones and flutes is hard. Believe me, I've tried. Men get bored and leave. Or maybe it's to help all the people who say "Arab Strap" with a straight face actually find out what it means. We can go on all night with this. the point is: I don't know. All that counts is the music in my book. Ick. that sounds so cliche. I wish I could end with a more inspiring word than that. Oh well. s.s. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mick at xxx.com Mon Sep 7 06:07:54 1998 From: mick at xxx.com (Mick McMick) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 01:07:54 -0400 Subject: Sinister: B&S Apparel in the US?/Paraphenalia in general Message-ID: <35F36A2A.6AE122AF@indiepop.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hullo, Just inquiring as to whether or not we Americans are going to be privy to the same sort of wondrous items (i.e. shirts, posters, badges, B&S-brand arab straps) as the kind that are being sold at the UK gigs? I so want to parade around town with "Belle & Sebastian" emblazoned upon my chest. See Mr. Milkman? How about them apples, store clerk. You wish you had a shirt like this too, fellow student? Well, it's a shame you didn't see them... Well, that's *if* we can get them... I do wonder, though, what other B&S-related paraphenalia might we purchase? An alarm with a "Sleep Around the Clock" button? "Ease Your Feet into the Epsom Salt"? "Lazy Back Massager Jane"? "Photo Jenny"-brand cameras? "Le Pastie de la Bourgeosie"-creampuffs? A "Pocketbook Angel" notebook? Or Perhaps a notebook with "We Rule the School" emblazoned upon it. Hm, I'd best quit before I get *REALLY* bad... But until B&S write a song called "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter," we'll be stuck guessing at the potential commercial possibilities. /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - mick at indiepop.com - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - sandcastlerecords at indiepop.com | | Sandcastle Homepage - http://indiepop.com/sandcastle/ | | | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mick at xxx.com Mon Sep 7 05:54:29 1998 From: mick at xxx.com (Mick McMick) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 00:54:29 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Aural Doilies and Seymour Stein References: <1de4f158.35f20a01@aol.com> Message-ID: <35F36705.14C82B38@indiepop.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* MWaggner at aol.com wrote: > ne'er-do-well, matched to a woozy moog hook. The band's lyrical barbs can get > obnoxious, as in "Seymour Stein," which condemns the music industry impresario > named in its title for daring to try to make the musicians rich and famous. > Such dismissiveness blunts the album's impact. As much joy as its jingle- > jangle music holds,the band won't come to full power until it finds equal > breadth and gernerosity in its words." I'm just so sick of seeing this mentioned in the reviews. The thing is, I never ever thought this was much of a political statement until I read all these reviews. I thought it was something said by many bands, some even in song (and much less tactfully than in "Seymour Stein," let me tell you). I guess the difference is all of those bands that hop to mind *weren't* offered a big record deal. Still, the idea that writing one political song decrying a horribly corrupt and appalling thing would "...blunt the album's impact," is really stupid if you ask me. I think this is just a case of the band hitting it a little too close to home. I wonder what John Q. Public would think of it, rather than John Q. Reviewer. I imagine their enjoyment would be a bit less "blunted" than the average music industry bigwig. I heard Seymour Stein cried when he heard the song. Dunno if there's any truth in that, though... /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - mick at indiepop.com - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - sandcastlerecords at indiepop.com | | Sandcastle Homepage - http://indiepop.com/sandcastle/ | | | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mick at xxx.com Mon Sep 7 05:54:29 1998 From: mick at xxx.com (Mick McMick) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 00:54:29 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Aural Doilies and Seymour Stein References: <1de4f158.35f20a01@aol.com> Message-ID: <35F36705.14C82B38@indiepop.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* MWaggner at aol.com wrote: > ne'er-do-well, matched to a woozy moog hook. The band's lyrical barbs can get > obnoxious, as in "Seymour Stein," which condemns the music industry impresario > named in its title for daring to try to make the musicians rich and famous. > Such dismissiveness blunts the album's impact. As much joy as its jingle- > jangle music holds,the band won't come to full power until it finds equal > breadth and gernerosity in its words." I'm just so sick of seeing this mentioned in the reviews. The thing is, I never ever thought this was much of a political statement until I read all these reviews. I thought it was something said by many bands, some even in song (and much less tactfully than in "Seymour Stein," let me tell you). I guess the difference is all of those bands that hop to mind *weren't* offered a big record deal. Still, the idea that writing one political song decrying a horribly corrupt and appalling thing would "...blunt the album's impact," is really stupid if you ask me. I think this is just a case of the band hitting it a little too close to home. I wonder what John Q. Public would think of it, rather than John Q. Reviewer. I imagine their enjoyment would be a bit less "blunted" than the average music industry bigwig. I heard Seymour Stein cried when he heard the song. Dunno if there's any truth in that, though... /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - mick at indiepop.com - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - sandcastlerecords at indiepop.com | | Sandcastle Homepage - http://indiepop.com/sandcastle/ | | | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mick at xxx.com Mon Sep 7 05:54:29 1998 From: mick at xxx.com (Mick McMick) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 00:54:29 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Aural Doilies and Seymour Stein References: <1de4f158.35f20a01@aol.com> Message-ID: <35F36705.14C82B38@indiepop.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* MWaggner at aol.com wrote: > ne'er-do-well, matched to a woozy moog hook. The band's lyrical barbs can get > obnoxious, as in "Seymour Stein," which condemns the music industry impresario > named in its title for daring to try to make the musicians rich and famous. > Such dismissiveness blunts the album's impact. As much joy as its jingle- > jangle music holds,the band won't come to full power until it finds equal > breadth and gernerosity in its words." I'm just so sick of seeing this mentioned in the reviews. The thing is, I never ever thought this was much of a political statement until I read all these reviews. I thought it was something said by many bands, some even in song (and much less tactfully than in "Seymour Stein," let me tell you). I guess the difference is all of those bands that hop to mind *weren't* offered a big record deal. Still, the idea that writing one political song decrying a horribly corrupt and appalling thing would "...blunt the album's impact," is really stupid if you ask me. I think this is just a case of the band hitting it a little too close to home. I wonder what John Q. Public would think of it, rather than John Q. Reviewer. I imagine their enjoyment would be a bit less "blunted" than the average music industry bigwig. I heard Seymour Stein cried when he heard the song. Dunno if there's any truth in that, though... /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - mick at indiepop.com - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - sandcastlerecords at indiepop.com | | Sandcastle Homepage - http://indiepop.com/sandcastle/ | | | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SpaceboyUK at xxx.com Mon Sep 7 06:09:48 1998 From: SpaceboyUK at xxx.com (SpaceboyUK at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 01:09:48 EDT Subject: Sinister: Aural Doilies and Seymour Stein Message-ID: <19bb35f5.35f36a9c@aol.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* << > ne'er-do-well, matched to a woozy moog hook. The band's lyrical barbs can get > obnoxious, as in "Seymour Stein," which condemns the music industry impresario > named in its title for daring to try to make the musicians rich and famous. > Such dismissiveness blunts the album's impact. As much joy as its jingle- > jangle music holds,the band won't come to full power until it finds equal > breadth and gernerosity in its words." I'm just so sick of seeing this mentioned in the reviews. >> I agree!! just because the review critique people are too much into EVE 6 na dHOOTIE & THE BLOWFISH and other monotonous bands like the such, they mustn't criticize what they know nothing of. -a.james +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Mon Sep 7 08:41:59 1998 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgal) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 00:41:59 PDT Subject: Sinister: STHLM GIG!! MEEETING!! Message-ID: <19980907074159.4979.qmail@hotmail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* yes all there will be a meeting..!! The concert is moved to a bigger venue..so now the questiopn is where in stockholm to have our little meeting..or picnic or whatever.. I suggest vitabergsoarken..it's a lovely park..and it's quite near to where the concert is..only a couple os stations with the subway.. well so..I think we could like meet around 17.00 since the concert begin at 20.00... I dunno when the rest of you traveling around the country comes to stockholm..but hey..lets make a date out iof this:) a blast will take place I know..and I'll try and bring a camera so we can take pics for the sinsiter pics..all of us lovely swedews right??:) well..so who's up for it??? hugs becky e-mail rebeckas at hotmail.com # go and have a peek at my page it's constantly developing, http://www.angelfire.com/me/Mizzy # ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tangent at xxx.net Mon Sep 7 09:20:49 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 09:20:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: interruption References: <35F33D7E.2E36@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <35F39760.38BAF2B3@lineone.net> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* brad wrote: > but, i have to say, and duke, maybe you could agree here.....the new > lambchop is better. the new lambchop is indeed great, but i don't really want to compare the two. the Belle record is a great big Pop monster, and it's flaws of trying to incorporate too many asides in the one record might well be its strength. i think the eps point is valid though, i could see this as a series of EPs, in fact that would have been quite nice. Maybe it could have been a collectable vinyl special with five 12 inchers in a box, like the great Mo Wax Excursions series. or maybe not. As for lambchop, well i like its air, and i like the way it's Pop without being as obviously so as the belle record. Maybe that's a plus point in the long run... i suspect it might be. Really, unless you're a lucky sod like me and i suspect Brad who got them for nothing, i'd go out and buy both. And anyway i'm buying the vinyl of the belle record today, so no complaints from record company men, okay? ;-) hope to see some of you later in London. keep the faith, the duke -- 'all of our dreams are dying of overdoses' Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From John.Jackson at xxx.com Mon Sep 7 09:26:52 1998 From: John.Jackson at xxx.com (Jackson,John) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 09:26:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: can anyone explain this? Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* somewhere in sleepy Chorltonville... 3 men in a room, shouting... 3 men in a room, drinking beer.... 3 men in a room, listening and singing along to "I Was A Male Stripper In A Go Go Bar" by Man 2 Man meets Man Parrish.... 3 men in a room, looking up Phil Fearon & Galaxy and Limahl on the internet... answers please.... JJJ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stephenl at xxx.uk Mon Sep 7 10:51:27 1998 From: stephenl at xxx.uk (Stephen Landamore) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 10:51:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: One boys opinion of the gigs so far... Message-ID: <35F3AC9F.2A75@arcam.co.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Greetings fellow pop!sters! Well I've come in to work, I've an absolutely massive backlog of email to read (mostly linux-kernel stuff :o) so I thought I'd procrastinate a little and take some time out to give my account of the two gigs so far (i.e. Leeds & Nottingham). Leeds ~~~~~~~ Set off straight from work and drove three hours solid, stopping only to grab a pie and an A-Z of leeds... ... my goodness! On olde-worlde variety hall! what a peculiar place to have a gig! This must be about the first time I've been to a sit-down gig (*), how odd! I think I arrived a few minutes into Elliott Smith's set... hmm, this guy's pretty good. So good in fact that I bought his album on Saturday, along with the new B&S album. For those not familiar, it was one man and his (acoustic) guitar. Pleasant. And the interlude! Well, *I've* never had ice cream in a gig before! I was so impressed (or is that: hot) that I bought two! (No, I didn't partake of the lollies at Manchester, I was too cold :-) And then Belle & Sebastian came on... straight in with 'Simple Things' - excellent stuff if a little quiet. Well, I have to say I didn't make a note of the set list but I'm sure someone else will fill me in. My memory isn't that good these days :-) Highlight for me was 'Is it wicked not to care?' Other highlights: the guys dancing at the front. Are you one of us? Don't be shy, own up. Most entertaining! Especially during 'Century of Fakers' Stuart M changed the lyrics, '... century of strippers ...' as the guy had just taken his jacket off, followed by ' ... there was a young boy who wanted to dance, but he ended up looking dumb ...' both to lots of laughs. Top P!O!P! entertainment fellows, keep it up! Quote: 'Stuart! Stuart! We want to dance!' One thing that stood out for me, was the silence. Let me explain. During most gigs there is a general background noise of people talking. When I saw Mogwai earlier this year it was ruined for me by people talking. Well I'm sure you all know and love Mogwai, their music goes from quiet to loud with no inbetween, during the quiet bits you could hardly hear anything due to the background noise. And the loud bits were few and far between. But I digress.. Well, this is the FIRST gig I've EVER been to where the audience were QUIET... maybe something to do with the fact B&S were playing quiet-ish, maybe ... I dunno. Top notch behaviour folks! Of course we went wild between songs :-) Finally, buy a mug and a poster then head off home. Top night out! Nottingham ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hmm, this was trickier to find, perhaps I should have bought an A-Z of nottingham as well! Well, I finally made it - AND I made it in time to see the ENTIRE Elliott Smith set!!! The venue: what can I say?! Three words: Furry Fresian Doors omigod! they killed good taste! Overall this was as good as the day before, except that the venue was BUSY BUSY BUSY. I HATE queueing at a bar :-( The people were too loud. I had to move away from a group of people talking, just so I could hear the band... Looks like several people in the audience had the same problem, there were numerous shouts of 'we can't hear' and 'turn up the volume' ... the band ought to have replied 'no, you be quiet' I would have like this, but I guess it would have been taken the wrong way... Highlights: 'The state I am in' and 'Photo Jenny' Bought a T-shirt (David, Katrina: Hi! Good to put a face to the names, keep up the good work! :-) Finally hang around for a while then bugger off home (ObSurprise: my girlfriend was awake and waiting for me when I got home. ObShame: I was way too tired) Hmm. Lots lots lots better than Manchester :-) Well, no doubt other people will comment on the gigs, fill me in on the setlists, whatever. I bet they probably already have done, I guess I'm going to check my mail now... Maybe see some of you in London tonight... then again, maybe not - I'm coming down with a stinking cold, and there some things I've got to do at home which absolutely cannot wait, unfortunately :-( Oh yes, the new album. I picked up a copy the other day, and very good it is too! My current (i.e. immediate) fave is 'simple things'. I'm listening to it now, as I write... nice work fellas! stephen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Mon Sep 7 10:46:21 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 10:46:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: B&S Apparel in the US?/Paraphenalia in general References: <35F36A2A.6AE122AF@indiepop.com> Message-ID: <35F3AB6D.75E06A@jeepster.co.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Mick McMick wrote: > Hullo, > Just inquiring as to whether or not we Americans are going to be privy > to the same sort of wondrous items (i.e. shirts, posters, badges, > B&S-brand arab straps) as the kind that are being sold at the UK gigs? I > so want to parade around town with "Belle & Sebastian" emblazoned upon > my chest. See Mr. Milkman? How about them apples, store clerk. You wish > you had a shirt like this too, fellow student? Well, it's a shame you > didn't see them... Well, that's *if* we can get them... we will be trying to sort out getting t-shirts to the states, it is unlikely that we'll be supplying mugs or badges though. also, katrina and i won't be selling merchandise in the states or europe as, quite simply, the merchandise would never be able to pay for the cost of our time off, travel and accomodation! > I do wonder, though, what other B&S-related paraphenalia might we > purchase? An alarm with a "Sleep Around the Clock" button? "Ease Your > Feet into the Epsom Salt"? "Lazy Back Massager Jane"? "Photo > Jenny"-brand cameras? "Le Pastie de la Bourgeosie"-creampuffs? A > "Pocketbook Angel" notebook? Or Perhaps a notebook with "We Rule the > School" emblazoned upon it. Hm, I'd best quit before I get *REALLY* > bad... But until B&S write a song called "I Can't Believe It's Not > Butter," we'll be stuck guessing at the potential commercial > possibilities. one of the things we've been thinking of making is one of those little snow-storms things that you shake to make the snow fall. then we can have a little title emblazoned round the side "the fox in the snow-storm" :) david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Mon Sep 7 09:46:45 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Fluffy Candarel) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 09:46:45 +0100 Subject: Sinister: forces sweetheart i'm your twin In-Reply-To: <35F39760.38BAF2B3@lineone.net> Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* HELLO LIST!!! >the Belle record is a great big Pop monster, and it's flaws of >trying to incorporate too many asides in the one record might well be >its strength. Its flaws!!!! It's blimming flaws!!! Are you trying to say that having extremely differing styles in a record is a BLIMMING FLAW!!!!! My god!!! If that is not what has made the B&S album one of the most (if not THE most!) greatest albums I have heard ever since I got it, then MY GOSH, I'm steve lamaq and you're all rabid geese!!!! Gosh gosh gosh! I think all those different styles are marvellous, not all of us want a completely fey-indie schimdie geetar and wee voice all the way through an album! We want corkers like Dirty dream #2, and yes indeed, the gorgeousness fo Chickfactor, I love that song but everyone else seems to not like it. Well, they're all STUPID MONKEYS! anyway. ha. yes. My gosh though, i've just realised the duke dude meant to write A-sides and not asides... fucking hell, that means every song on an alnbum is a corker! Excuse me for perhaps not kowing my Pop place or something, but why should we expect an album to only have 3 great songs and the rest should be "alrightbutidontlikethemasmuchasspaceboydreamarabstrapputdownthataxee ugene"....B&S have made possibly the greatest album of this week and thus I shall rant about it as such. Yes. And I'm glad it's an album and not loads of buggery vinyl pieces that would cost ooh, say 7936286372663409236 pounds to buy! I loved Maryhill, it was fab they were amazing...but I've already yattered on about taht from Lindamail!! Leeds was good as well! But a sit-down venue? Waaah! Well, put it this way, B&S were good, but lets face it, they're not exactly Chas'n'Dave are they? (CND CND there's no way were going on after Chas'n'Dave) But the grooving away at Brighton beach was much fun, even though I hope everyone was pished out of their skull and thusly has forgotten my extremely bad dancing - well if it was metal I would have known how to dance in an "approriate style", but alas it was sssooooowwwwuuullll music and thus I was reduced to watching everyone else and going....help they can dance, I can't, whoops. JJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJ - I can explain your problem/puzzlement/whatever - you are fucking strange and FREAKS!!! FREAKS!! God! I get called a freak, you can tell these people have never been on this bloody list! My god! I'm going to go and try to finish my coursework now it seems relatively sane! so : I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Candarel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Sep 7 10:01:08 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 11:01:08 +0200 Subject: Sinister: South Talbot Observer Review Message-ID: <01bdda3e$0de54a40$LocalHost@itjfvkli> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* This was in Friday's South Talbot Observer review section: BELLE & SEBASTIAN - THE BOY WITH THE ARAB STRAP By Barry Yorath (awarded 4 stars - Barry's Star Buy!) Chirpy Scots threesome Belle and Sebastian's debut album is a delicate joy. The fey and winsome lyrics of New Labour troubador Stuart Murdoch captivate and delight the unsuspecting listener, gradually weaving a mystic web of verbal tomfoolery. The musical backing is pert and spunky, bringing to mind echos of "Our Favourite Shop" era Style Council crossed with the Pet Shop Boys on "Sleep the Clock Around"; Led Zeppelin's awesome "No Quarter" on the spoken word "A Space Boy Dream" before shifting up a gear into a splendid Isaac Hayes inspired funkathon. The title track is an ode to innocent pleasures in the borstal potting shed, whose musical break sounds like a medieval simpleton on acid. "Chickfactor" is a gentle Love-style lament to getting lost in New York, whose musical break sounds like an Elizabethan simpleton on acid. The three press-shy lads in Belle and Sebastian make music. Let their music make love to you. --------------------------------------------------------------- There, it's pretty much the same as all the other reviews really, but I thought it was worth adding to the ever-increasing pile. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koogydelbbog at xxx.com Mon Sep 7 11:12:28 1998 From: koogydelbbog at xxx.com (andrew dean) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 03:12:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: trouble with new album? Message-ID: <19980907101228.29523.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* um, having worked for 7 hours yesterday (unpaid overtime, still, it gets me out of the house...) i decided to take an hour or so and pop into town this morning cos there was some record by some band or other new out. anyway, i picked it up (along with the new mojave 3 single (not as good as the last one, still rather pleasant though) and the new helen love single) and took it to the counter and she scanned it and it beeped, she scanned it again and it beeped again. tried putting the number in by hand and it beeped again. she looked it up in the other computer (they have 36 copies (35 now!) in hemel hempstead virgin meagrestore if that's of interest to anyone) and tried that number and it beeped again. she ended up writing it down on a scrap of paper. i'm just worried that this isn't a local thing and that there'll be hundreds of sales that go unrecorded the length and breadth of the country and the album doesn't do as well as it should and susannah's prophecies come true... so, i now have a real copy of the lp, nice cd booklet full of pictures and all. but i also have this superstition about not listening to a band's music the day before seeing them live (they're playing a gig in london tonight, is anyone going?) so i can't really listen to it until tomorrow... sigh. duke: [nottingham was full of wankers and they oughta play smaller places] >Does anyone understand what i'm saying? i guess it comes down >to: the really 'dedicated' fans would have got their shit together >and got tickets for a venue half the size and all the hangers on who >probably just went cos it was meant to be 'hip' or something (i >dunno, i'm making this up as i go) would have been left out in the >cold, and that's just fine. except, of course, that selling half as many tickets means half as much income (or the tickets have to be twice as expensive). but yes, intimate venues are better naturally. um, i've just realised that duke was complaining about a 500 seater venue being too large when tonight they play a 2000 seater venue... oh um, back to the grindstone... andy i've also noticed that going to town on the bus around 9 in the morning the bus is always full of old women. why do they always need to be in town as soon as everything opens? don't they realise they have All The Time In The World and oughta leave the early buses for people with more important things to do? pah! == andrew dean (koogydelbbog at yahoo.com) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Mon Sep 7 10:23:44 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Fluffy Candarel) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 10:23:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: relp! Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* OK me again. Last post, sorry, duke I wasn't having a go at you or anyone on this list - its just that what pisses me off is that there's a load of people who HAVE to moan about whatever new stuff is released - like if they don't moan, the album isn't as good? I don't think you HAVE to moan about an album, I think there's no point nit picking for something you don't like so you can be a cool wanker, going "ah ys well I don't like THAT one, the rest of it's OK though", when you should be happy to scream" wowsers" this is prety damn brilliant and every song is great! marvellous!". and rush the album to your heart! I dunno, is it my age, am I just a wee thing at 17 and don't know how things should be? Arsebiscuits to that, I think there's just too many people UP themselves about their music, it's not music any more it's a credibility race and I think that smells. BUT I've just thought, if you don't examine your music, you'll be a laxy beggar and then start listening to any crap with no use to anything in the world! So, what's my point here? Do I have one? Never mind, I'm just an idea anyway!!!! Sod my coursework then... I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Candarel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koogydelbbog at xxx.com Mon Sep 7 11:28:32 1998 From: koogydelbbog at xxx.com (andrew dean) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 03:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: re: trouble... (and observer review) Message-ID: <19980907102832.15815.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* and having just mentioned the new mojave 3 single (which got better later on) i open it up and inside it says: >mick cooke - trumpet >recorded at cava studios glasgow, by tony doogan spooky... another review: observer, 6th september, barbara ellen(?) unrepentant champions of jangling acoustic indiedom, the scottish band offers few innovations on their third album. a pity, since on the occasional track not subjected to boy-scout production standards, say 'sleep the clock around', their wispy rock threatens to come fully alive. otherwise their proudly humdrum songs - 'hello small town, hello big aeroplane' - lie limp as a Highland hotel salad. um, so they're an acoustic band. so all those eletric guitars and organs are figments of my deranged mind... i'm not entirely sure the Highland hotel will be too pleased either. also, on my last trip to america we had to board the plane on the runway using one of those stair things and it was the first time i'd seen a plane i was travelling on up that close and i was struck by how small it was... there's no little story on the sleeve of the new lp 8( i do like the grumpy sounding thanks to the writer of the original b&s stories though. more dinnertime andy == andrew dean (koogydelbbog at yahoo.com) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From d.barker at xxx.uk Mon Sep 7 11:33:07 1998 From: d.barker at xxx.uk (Cassell Professional Publishing) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1998 11:33:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Nottingham festivities Message-ID: <0008022df7c3$4bc32900$7b65e4d4@server> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Just a quick one to thank David and Katrina (and whoever else helped) for arranging the disco after the show on Saturday - me and Sarah had a great time. I thought Stuart M danced like a little pixie. I thought the show itself was great - hot and sweaty concerts are good. True, there were a few silly people in the audience, but it was still cool. I know a lot of the songs are supposed to be quiet, but I still think the band could play some of the songs a bit louder. We were right at the front, and we still couldn't hear Stuart very well, or some of the instruments. They'll have to turn it up a bit tonight, I think. I hope they mix up the two sets, as well. Later, DAVID +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Mon Sep 7 11:38:47 1998 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins, Tim) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 11:38:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bottingham News Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* The 'who was that masked man?' Duke wrote... > they played well, but you couldn't hear them. the band really seem to be > in a tough situation: they either turn the volume up and risk losing > their non-rock chamber orchestra feel, or they decide 'bugger the fans' > and refuse to play any venue that is either too big or is not seated, or > at least lovely to be in kind of deal. Does anyone understand what i'm > saying? > I do. I think. Unless I don't, which is possible, but I understand what I think you're saying. Not feeling quite as fidgety about crowds as our resident aristocrat, we (I'm talking about me and the excellent Mr Mason, but he can tell this story for himself if he wants) decided to 'go down the front' as they say in Sidmouth. We got about two thirds of the way forward where the sound was wonderful as long as you faced the front. Every time I turned to make a witty rejoinder to my companion, the sound was ruined by the echo of the drums from the back wall. We found ourselves standing behind a bunch of people behaving as (I'm putting this as kindly as I can) idiots who were pogoing and getting topless ad doing freaky dancing. I have no objection to people dancing in venues intended (indeed licensed) for drinking music and dancing. However, dancing ostentatiously and inappropriately even during quiet and slow songs seems downright rude to me. None of these things spoiled my enjoyment of the evening, which was full and mighty. > where i was at the back all i could hear were the loud > obnoxious voices of twatty boys (mostly) who just didn't seem to be > interested in anything except drinking beer and eyeing up the women. > Though why anyone would shell out ?10 (plus booking fee) to go and drink mediocre beer at ?2.50 a pint and talk all the way through a band they obviously consider to be little more than an irritation is way beyond me. Twatty boys, eh? I *still* blame the teachers...:-) Andy Dean wrote: >um, i've just realised that duke >was complaining about a 500 seater venue being too large when tonight >they play a 2000 seater venue... I think that the Duke was complaining about an 800 capacity standing up venue, and perhaps the rub lies therein? Perhaps the truth is that Belle and Sebastian simply aren't suited to traditional rock venues where the audience behave like a traditional rock crowd? Especially as they get more popular and the venues necessarly get larger and less intimate? I thought that the City Varieties show was utterly fantastic. The venue (which is a 500 seater) and the sound were both beautiful and (although more of my favourite songs were played at Nottingham) the night as a whole was fantastic. At least, I am told that I think that. I remember very little after the set, on account of picking up a mild (and thankfully temporary) case of brain fever, the symptoms of which can sometimes make the sufferer appear extremely drunk. While on the subject of errors having been made, may I just take the opportunity to say that possible appearance or otherwise of drunken turnips in the press over the next few weeks will have nothing whatsoever to do with me. As ever, it was another fellow entirely. All for now. Your rabid goose, Tim +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Mon Sep 7 12:39:12 1998 From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (Michael Jones) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 04:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Barcode Ellen Message-ID: <19980907113912.23256.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* In response to a couple of things Andy posted... Barbara Ellen has fashioned an entire career out of being profoundly wrong about every single significant musical event of the past 10 years. I could give examples, but I can't be bothered. 'Boy-scout production' ? It's practically audiophile, for God's sake. Deaf *and* stupid. (I really shouldn't be quite so riled by ignorant rockcrits, but this is Belle And Sebastian and I *refuse* to see the other point of view). The woman at Our Price (Victoria station branch - 7:45am !) had trouble swiping the bar-codes on my CD and cassette copies too - eventually resorted to processing dummy cases that they seemed to have stacked on the shelves next to the actual albums. Which leaves us facing the prospect of enormous first-week sales and no chart position whatsoever. How very B&S. No precious 180g black slabs yet though - they "don't do vinyl" here in Crawley... Mike (not Pam, as I may have misleadingly suggested last night...) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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Name: not available URL: From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Mon Sep 7 13:23:41 1998 From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:23:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Shepherd's Bush Message-ID: <00e501bdda5a$5986a4f0$4429c22b@bond.broadcast> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Could someone let me know if the venue is anywhere near Shepherd's Bush subway station, and if so, how to get to it (if not could you let me know which subway station it is near). Cheers, Michael _________________________________________________ Michael Barrett, Broadcast R & D, Advanced Technology Division, SONY Broadcast & Professional, Basingstoke, Hampshire, RG22 4SB, England. E-mail: Michael.Barrett at adv.sonybpe.com Tel: +44 (0)1256 483501, Fax: +44 (0)1256 810950 "On a 9 to 5 lemon, looking for the lime" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Claire.Simpson at xxx.uk Mon Sep 7 13:55:55 1998 From: Claire.Simpson at xxx.uk (Simpson, Claire E) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:55:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Shepherd's Bush Message-ID: <199809071249.NAA07387@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Could someone let me know if the venue is anywhere near Shepherd's Bush subway station, and if so, how to get to it (if not could you let me know which subway station it is near). Cheers, Michael Anyone who is unsure where the SBE is, go to http://www.streetmap.co.uk and look up Goldhawk Road , and you should get a fairly comprehensive map. SBE is on the corner of Goldhawk Road, Bush Green and Shepherds Bush Road. Hope this helps. Claire +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From m.wimbury at xxx.uk Mon Sep 7 13:57:11 1998 From: m.wimbury at xxx.uk (MATTHEW WIMBURY) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:57:11 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Everything Message-ID: <199809071257.NAA27314@unixb.lancs.ac.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Right..... 1) As for my recent comment on some of the new titles i think a recent post by someone else covered why i wasnt mad on the chickfactor title, and i think the album title would be okay as a songtitle but not as an album title, it just sounds clumsy, unfunny, i dunno.... 2) Glad most people seem to have enjoyed the gigs...wish i could have gone, hopefully i can with the next tour they do, if there will be one. 3) Got the new album today, which is damned good but will have to grow on me like the last EP did before i love it to bits. Favourite song at the moment is sleep the clock around. 4) A Summer Wasting sounds like Certain People I know by morrissey. 5) A Space Boy Dream is an improvement on Century Of Elvis.. 6) Anyone else notice the Nick Drake-esque "would you love me till im dead" bit in is it wicked not to care? 7) Not sure why but the cover art reminds me of the dog on wheels cover. not as good though. I like the green but not too keen on that blokes face! And hey, lets face it no cover will be as cool as one with a dog on wheels on it now will it? 8) Had to get the mansun album as well today.....not very well liked on here it seems, are they? 9) Belle and Sebastian are still the most wonderful band in the world then....cool... More from me sometime soon I'm sure.... Matt. PS 10) Heard the new Beautiful South song? Isn't it great to have em back.... the "thespian with a caravanette in hull" always reminds me of mick heaton....bizarre.... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Claire.Simpson at xxx.uk Mon Sep 7 14:03:19 1998 From: Claire.Simpson at xxx.uk (Simpson, Claire E) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 14:03:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: A few things Message-ID: <199809071256.NAA08004@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* being the div that I am, I have deleted the original messages to copy in, but I had a couple of things to say. Fear not all who are worried about the bar code not being recognised, as mine just went through loud and clear. Maybe fear not those who were worried about the "letting us use the name until now" quote. On the back page of the CD (inside) there is the same information, EXCEPT it says "the artists would like to thank Mme Cecile Aubry for having given them permission to take the name" which sounds quite permanent to me. Perhaps the inference was to the fact they have been using it without permission up until recently. Anyway... I am sitting at work, looking diligent and listening to B&S on my laptop surreptitiously, and so far I am in major ecstasy!!! bliss..... See y'all tonight! Yip yip! Claire PS The new album was on prominent display in Virgin. Anyone else scared that they are going to go big time? Moral dilemma - am I being selfish, or am I concerned about the music becoming mainstream like Chumba?? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From padraic_fresheire at xxx.com Mon Sep 7 14:05:37 1998 From: padraic_fresheire at xxx.com (padraic doorey) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 06:05:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Re: Shepherds Bush Message-ID: <19980907130537.18452.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* hi there...those of you who know me hopefully do not think of me a trainspotter.....anyhow, down to the business of issuing directions: there are two stations in shepherds bush and it doesn't matter a fook which one you go to... one is on the central line and is slightly further away from the venue than the other. if you go to this one turn right out of the station walking past the 7-11 (B2??) on the right and continue on that street until you get to a dodgy winebar called Edwards (on your right). cross the road (to your left) and walk paralell to the top of the green. you'll see the empire on your right this is an underground station while the other one is above ground (but it's still an underground - confusing isn't it?). the other station is on the hammersmith & city line....turn left out of the station and cross the road continuing towards the green until you come to Barclays on your right and nasty winebar Edwards accross the street on the left. turn right walk past Barclays (unless you happen to see a particularly frail wealthy-looking old person at the ATM one simply must clobber them over the head and make off with their loot, taking in the gig en route to, erm, eastbourne AND you get *bonus* points if they are carrying a pension book) and the Empire will be on your right. right? i am having a particularly bothersome day at work today. i have done nothing except read old emails from my adorable love button and hope that when the godly B&S play "sleep the clock around" they will have that heavenly machine gizmo that makes the cool "dooooo, woooooo, booooo, doooooo" sound like there's something a-bubblin' in that that cauldron of isobel's....i think i'm going to get to the pub a little bit earlier than anticipated. i'm staying at my desk for another two hours...any PMs would be greatly appreciated. tonight i'll be the nerd wearing the red tee that says "ST. HILARY'S 25"...come say hello. gawsh i'm all excited. rough trade have the cd for 12.99 and the vinyl for 8.99. that's almost free isn't it? oh, is anyone going to cornelius on wednesday? AND WHY DIDN'T ANYONE WRITE TO PHILPPE????? HE FLEW ALL THE WAY FROM STRASBOURG FOR THIS SHOW!!! can i mention my dear dear friend miss piggy's film diaries is a page turnin' (shouldn't that be mouse clickin'?) experience. wow - check out the glam ziggy piggy on www.muppets.com *fabu* dolls. funkyseb - what's the deal with the digs man? (tell all to lady p later....) *mwah* dawhlings, lady penelope. [i should be so lucky, lucky lucky lucky] _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From m.wimbury at xxx.uk Mon Sep 7 14:33:25 1998 From: m.wimbury at xxx.uk (MATTHEW WIMBURY) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 14:33:25 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Similarities continue. Message-ID: <199809071333.OAA02560@unixb.lancs.ac.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* It's been really bugging me each of the many times I've listened to the album today what the beginning of ease your feet in the sea reminds me of and i finally worked it out....it's Judy and the dream of horses... sorry for all these comparisons but its just that the songs keep reminding me of stuff. theyre still all brilliant and sounding better with every listen. May i ask why, in the voting booth, chickfactor is so low? I mean, below century of elvis? Its not one of the best on the new album but it should definitely be higher... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MWaggner at xxx.com Mon Sep 7 14:35:13 1998 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 09:35:13 EDT Subject: Sinister: directions abound and other stuff Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Be really careful of the yahoo maps -- I tried to use one once, and it was full of errors -- it bore no relation to the actual streets that were there, aside from the main street. We had to go back to the beginning and ask at gas stations along the way.... That's the US ones, but I'd still be really careful of them. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MWaggner at xxx.com Mon Sep 7 14:36:45 1998 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 09:36:45 EDT Subject: Sinister: B&S Apparel in the US?/Paraphenalia in general Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Do not forget the "Jambon de la Bourgeousie" at the refreshment stand. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From m.wimbury at xxx.uk Mon Sep 7 14:50:01 1998 From: m.wimbury at xxx.uk (MATTHEW WIMBURY) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 14:50:01 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: More..this is getting silly! Message-ID: <199809071350.OAA04870@unixb.lancs.ac.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Okay, this is getting mad, i've spotted more.... Dirty Dream #2 sounds like From Under The Covers by The Beautiful South The Boy With The Arab Strap has similarities with Slip Slidin' Away by Simon and Garfunkel..... fear ye not, I think that's it! Matt. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From m.wimbury at xxx.uk Mon Sep 7 14:59:41 1998 From: m.wimbury at xxx.uk (MATTHEW WIMBURY) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 14:59:41 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: .....Maybe Message-ID: <199809071359.OAA05866@unixb.lancs.ac.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* okay then...maybe i lied... Simple Things...beginning sounds like Stupid Girl by garbage, and that guitar tune reappears quite often throughout. incidentally, this is a marvellous song and should be longer than 1 min 45 secs I reckon.... It also sounds like a bit of a sequel to dog on wheels to me..... Matt. That SHOULD be it! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From buffalo at xxx.uk Mon Sep 7 14:58:56 1998 From: buffalo at xxx.uk (Ian Turton) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 14:58:56 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re: Shepherds Bush References: <19980907130537.18452.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: <35F3E6A0.C751F2D6@easynet.co.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* padraic doorey wrote: > *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > > hi there...those of you who know me hopefully do not think of me a > trainspotter.....anyhow, down to the business of issuing directions: > > there are two stations in shepherds bush and it doesn't matter a fook > which one you go to... Er, 'cept there's a third, slightly nearer, tube on the Hammersmith and City line, 'Goldhawk Road'. Turn right out of the station along Goldhawk Road. About 200 yards up there's the Firkin pub on the corner that *you're going to meet everyone in anyway, right ?*. Follow the road left round to the Empire. I'm ready. Single pimple on chin (can be dealt with), minor scab under nose from 3am falling down jobby after some booze 'covered my ears' at the Notting Hill Carnival (the cool scabs and bruises on my cheek, have gone, natch). Otherwise, I declare myself of sound mind and fit body. I arrive; in my wake, the hideous stench of ominous portent etc. Think I'll be wearing a frankly silly Starsky and Hutch leather jacket, tracky top and v-neck t-shirt. And pants. English and American. Say 'hi Turt' or 'hello Ian' or 'watcha jackass bwoi', cos though I have the gob of hippo, I've got the front of a doormouse. yluTurt I want my records back And that motorcycle gas tank That I spray-painted black +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk Mon Sep 7 15:25:53 1998 From: Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk (Sarah Wheeler) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 15:25:53 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Sounds like.......... Message-ID: <199809071425.PAA13937@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Matt wrote: >Simple Things...beginning sounds like Stupid Girl by garbage The beginning of one track sounds a bit like one of the pianoey tunes from the Betty Blue soundtrack. I can't remember its name. Neither can I remember which B+S track I'm talking about.....shucks, I'm gonna have to listen to the album all over again....... CHICKFACTOR!!!!!!! That's the one. Enjoy the show tonight....I'm gonna be stuck in my lab rewriting the results section of my thesis, which my supervisor took great pleasure in ripping to shreds..... Byeee Sarah x ======================= Sarah Wheeler Room 106 West Medical Building University of Glasgow GLASGOW G12 8QQ 0141-339 8855 ext.2860 ======================= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SpaceboyUK at xxx.com Mon Sep 7 15:36:02 1998 From: SpaceboyUK at xxx.com (SpaceboyUK at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 10:36:02 EDT Subject: Sinister: I sure do have some "trouble with new album" Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* well what i want to know is how did eeryone already have a copy of the new album yesterday on the 6th? And it is now 11 a.m. on the 7th. so i still have a day to go. and in Europe it comes out today right? but how did everyone have one by the 6th? im unprivileged,and listening to sinister and tigermilk over & over again might start getting old. i need more!! -a.james +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Mon Sep 7 16:18:58 1998 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 11:18:58 -0400 Subject: Sinister: toronto rendezvous/name tags/smiles abound Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Has a date been announced for the tickets to go on sale for the Toronto show yet? I've been ever so dilligently reading the posts, but I have a nagging fear that I've missed something and everyone will get to see B+S except for me, which would be horribly tragic. If I didn't still live at home with my mum I'd offer out-of-towners a place to sleep, but mum has issues with strangers sleeping around our house, even if they are popkids and their only danger is perhaps being too enamored with Stevie and Isobel...but this is probably living in a fantasy world, there must be a mugger or record thief lurking here somewhere, statistically, anyways. So, if anyone is interested in a rendezvous roundabout the Toronto show, let's get it together and have some fun! I'm not sure where to suggest, but there is a fabulous art gallery and science center in the city (although the science center is a little out of the way) and of course the World's Tallest Free-Standing Structure, the CN Tower, for those of you who aren't afraid of heights you can go up to the very top and stand on the glass floor and look at the tiny cars zipping about so far below. And I do think nametags are a neat idea, ideal for promoting friendliness and good feelings. Shall we wear them at the show? Is Genevieve going to make the trip from Montreal? And those of you from not so great distances? I know I don't post here much, shyness tends to get in my way, but I do adore reading these exuberant posts from all of you regarding your lives and how they may or may not involve B+S...I'm quite nosy, and would read all your diaries if you would let me, but sadly not many people are up for that level of soul baring, so I rely on gushing emails to sustain my worldly curiosity. But anyways, I'd love to meet all of you who are able to make the Toronto show, feel free to email me and I can help you around the city or whatever, perhaps go for tea. That's probably enough from me for now, let me assure you that I am not in the least bit scary, so there should be no fear involved in a 'hello' at the show, which I am soooo eagerly anticipating. truly, jessicaxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From John.Stuart at xxx.com Mon Sep 7 15:25:45 1998 From: John.Stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart/mail+schedule) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 07:25:45 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Sound like... Message-ID: <93CA1ADD24AED111B6CF00A0C9067630250C6D@EDINBURGH> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* >Simple Things...beginning sounds like Stupid Girl by garbage, and that >guitar tune reappears quite often throughout. I only just got the album at lunchtime and managed to listen to the first 20 seconds or so of each song, but theres one song that sounds like the start of an REM song, Tounge I think, or maybe Electrolite, I can't remember. I'll confirm tomorrow! The LP sound great though, Iooking forward to having a good listen or ten tonight. I also bought a single by a band called Electrasy after hearing it in a mates car. Anybody know anything about them? John. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zulu at xxx.uk Mon Sep 7 16:58:27 1998 From: zulu at xxx.uk (Colin Campbell) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 16:58:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: At last it is mine! Ha Ha Ha(evil chuckle) Message-ID: <199809071558.QAA05468@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Yippee I'm listening to my lovely shiny copy of TBWTAS right now for the second time, the first thing I can say about it is that it sounded a bit too Grrr rock on my big seperates system, too much bass, but on my computer with the treble turned up, its making me feel funny which is nice. While all you people have been dancing away in the yorkshire/sherwood forrest are , I've been bored, so bored that I looked up a Runaround, kiddies TV from the seventies as mentioned by stuart M. on tuesday and found a website, dedicated to the show that featured mike reid before he became frank butcher and had his very own fruit machine on the ardrossan to brodick, arran, ferry. http://freespace.virgin.net/greg.taylor1/watched_it/run.htm stop being nasty about stevies songs I think they are great, even though the begining of chickfactor sounds like betty blue, which I watched on friday strangely enough, also the begining of seymour stein sounds like something else as well ,answers on a stuck down envelope? Oh and It's record of the week in the sunday times culture section. A very good reveiw which I can't be bothered typing, sorry. But the reviewer says things like: "Their triumph is the quietly charismatic presence and fallen choirboy voice of the main singer stuart murdoch " "... the most satisfying and consistent B&S album to date" I bought my CD copy in avalanche and it was £9.99 and I got a free poster too. I think this is my longest post ever, not being particularly good at expressing myself in writing, I got a D in GCSE english language, hope you liked it Oh and the duke said something about chris being hard, well can I say that when I saw him he didn't look particularly hard, but he did look very cool, but one of his mates from V->twin looked like the lead singer from the Sweet. have fun tonite colin. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Mon Sep 7 17:21:04 1998 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 18:21:04 +0200 Subject: Sinister: B&S tribute Message-ID: <35F407F0.A829DB20@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hi all, i'm very happy for all of you that have seen B&S's gig. Thank for your description of concert, i live in Italy and with your description i was in Leeds or Nottingham, do you understand my bad English????? There's someone that tell me the meaning of : 1) INK POLAROID 2) LOOPER Thanks in advance. Marco#7. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vanessa.figueras at xxx.se Mon Sep 7 17:31:54 1998 From: vanessa.figueras at xxx.se (Vanessa Figueras) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 18:31:54 +0200 Subject: Sinister: STHLM GIG!! MEEETING!! References: <19980907074159.4979.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <35F40A7A.3DFD33C1@swipnet.se> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Me, me , me!! But shouldn't we have an alternative incase the sweet swedish autumn sets in? The thought of a park sounds just lovely, but hey noone wants to freeze to death an hour before the concert do they? Just a thought...Is anyone travelling from Gothenburg on saturday with the 09.12 interregio train? let me know if you are!! Love Vanessa Rebecka popgal wrote: > *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > > yes all there will be a meeting..!! > > The concert is moved to a bigger venue..so now the questiopn is where in > stockholm to have our little meeting..or picnic or whatever.. > > I suggest vitabergsoarken..it's a lovely park..and it's quite near to > where the concert is..only a couple os stations with the subway.. > > well so..I think we could like meet around 17.00 since the concert begin > at 20.00... > > I dunno when the rest of you traveling around the country comes to > stockholm..but hey..lets make a date out iof this:) > > a blast will take place I know..and I'll try and bring a camera so we > can take pics for the sinsiter pics..all of us lovely swedews right??:) > > well..so who's up for it??? > > hugs becky > e-mail rebeckas at hotmail.com > > # go and have a peek at my page it's constantly developing, > http://www.angelfire.com/me/Mizzy # > > ______________________________________________________ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From james at xxx.com Mon Sep 7 18:00:31 1998 From: james at xxx.com (J Errington) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 18:00:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Oh dear. Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Oh dear. I appear to have £12.75 in the entire world and I've got to get meaningfully drunk with my friends on Thursday. For this reason I'll have to (a) put off buying an album I can't afford which is TBWTAS until I get to Uni and (b) therefore ignore all mail about it until a similar time. Maybe I can get to some money, but that really was for university. I can't spend that can I? I'd better bite the bullet and withdraw it. Last night - Oh, that would be the night before last actually - I got chatted up by a man. He started off some camp banter by stroking my jacket and before I knew it he was being serious. That's a first for me. I didn't particularly mind that itself, but he was also quite scary and I thought a straight refusal might turn nasty, so I had my friends escort me out of the building. Enough of the reviews, by the way. It's a nice bit of build-up but I really cant stomach any more of these new B&S cliches. Pedestrianising the High Street, WeeJay "Who cares where national borders lie? Who cares whose laws you're governed by? Who cares what name you call a town? Who cares when you're six feet beneath the ground?" james at twopounds.u-net.com (my site kills browsers) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Cabaret/5523/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aszolnoki at xxx.com Mon Sep 7 18:18:02 1998 From: aszolnoki at xxx.com (Andras Zalan Szolnoki) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 10:18:02 PDT Subject: Sinister: TBWAS Message-ID: <19980907171803.5361.qmail@hotmail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hello Everyone!!!!!!! I�m writing this letter to get in a better mood. Things are a bit depressing now. I�ve been all over town and no TBWAS ( doesn�t this remind any of you of TAFKAP or RATM , mostly the first , or infact just the first!). The bright side is that in an hour or so I�ll be heading to this cool place called So What? where they have this release thing where ( I hope) they�re going to play the new album and have some give-aways (don�t know what they mean by that....... maybe t-shirts??). But still...................................... Things don�t get better when all you people write about how great time you had at a show or which track is your favorite. This sounds very negative and I don�t meen to say that you should stop writing about the gigs +++++(it�s great to read , but today is a spacial day) I hope I didn�t annoy anyone because it was never my intention. Has the european part of the tour been comfirmed???????????????????? I�d love to go and see the band . Well thanks for listening ......... ...............I think I�m getting better ........(Monty P�s KOTRT) Ciao (or just ta-ta) Szola ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From debbie.prior at xxx.com Mon Sep 7 19:39:20 1998 From: debbie.prior at xxx.com (debbie) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 19:39:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: warning: long email with monday's piece of culture included... Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* WeeJay wrote; For this reason I'll have to (a) put off buying an album I can't afford which is TBWTAS until I get to Uni and (b) therefore ignore all mail about it until a similar time. Maybe I can get to some money, but that really was for university. I can't spend that can I? I'd better bite the bullet and withdraw it. Heheheh, that's what i did today at lunchtime in Fopp (with a free poster!) Was the guy in the suit in front of me buying it on this list? Just wondered. I also got tickets for the manics album playback on friday but i can't afford to buy it now cus i've got to get my mum a birthday present (and i don't think she'd appreciate a copy of the album...) Anyhoo, down to business. Today i have selected for your enjoyment a poem by Rimbaud, who is great, and admired by patti smith, richey edwards and the like. I hope you are pleased. 'Novel' We aren't serious when we're seventeen -One fine evening, to hell with beer and lemonade, Noisy cafes with their shining lamps! We walk under the green linden trees of the park. The lindens smell good in the good June evenings! At times the air is so scented that we close our eyes. The wind laden with sounds- the town isn't far- Has the smell of grapevines and beer... There you can see a very small patch Of dark blue, framed by a little branch, Pinned up by a naughty star, that melts In gentle quivers, small and very white... Night in June! Seventeen years old! -We are overcome by it all. The sap is champagne and goes to our head... We talked a lot and feel a kiss on our lips Trembling there like a small insect... Our wild heart moves through novels like Robinson Crusoe, When, in the light of a pale street lamp, A girl goes by attractive and charming Under the shadow of her father's terrible collar... And as she finds you incredibly naive, While clicking her little boots, She turns abruptly and in a lively way... -Then cavatinas die on your lips... You are in love. Occupied until the month of August. You are in love. -Your sonnets make Her laugh. All your friends go off, you are ridiculous. -Then one evening the girl you worship deigned write to you! That evening,... you return to the bright cafes, You ask for beer and lemonade... We're not serious when we are seventeen And when we have green linden trees in the park. and if anyone's still reading and you haven't gone all squiff-eyed, here is a wee poem by the delectable Simon Armitage who's dulcet tones used to grace the airwaves of radio one when Radcliffe had his graveyard shift... 'ISayISayISay' Anyone here had a go at themselves for a laugh? Anyone opened their wrists with a blade in the bath? Those in the dark at the back, listen hard. Those at the front in the know, those of us who have, hands up, let's show that inch of lacerated skin between the forearm and the fist. Let's tell it like it is: strong drink, a crimson tidemark round the tub, a yard of lint, white towels washed a dozen times, still pink. Tough luck. A passion then for watches, bangles, cuffs. A likely story: you were lashed by brambles picking berries from the woods. Come clean, come good, repeat with me the punch line 'Just like blood' when those at the back rush forward to say how a little love goes a long long long way. ug, sorry for the lengthiness, but i felt compelled to share... love, debbie xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Mon Sep 7 19:45:42 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (JJ) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 19:45:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: some reference points Message-ID: <35F429D6.CE0@seahouses.u-net.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hello. Call me a spoilsport if you will but I spotted many soundeelikees on that new Belle and Sebastian album... 1) Seymour Stein (the beginning of) sounds like Hedonism by Skunk Anansie, sort of. 2) Dirty Dream 2 nicks itself from a song off Sinister (I think it's the melody from the Boy Done Wrong Again in parts) plus the theme to the old kids tv series Rupert The Bear, oh, and Yes by McAlmont and Butler but speeded up. It's also far and away the best song on the album isn't it kids. Stuart sounds oddly like Nico on this one. 3) The Boy With The Arab Strap. Yes. it sounds like that Queen song, it also is the same as 'Son Of My Father' by Chicory Tip, oh, and also 'On A Chicory Tip' by Denim which Mad Robbie McTag played me the other night. 4) Chickfactor is indeed a bit of Betty Blue, it's called C'est Le Vent, Betty or something. 5) Simple Things is also an ace song, it sounds really like the Byrds doesn't it? Nice. I'd give the album 3/5. Where do we all think it will chart next week? The Divine Comedy managed to get in at no.9 apparently. Byeeeee JJ xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk Mon Sep 7 20:07:13 1998 From: Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk (Sarah Wheeler) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 20:07:13 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Speak to me Message-ID: <199809071907.UAA11446@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Debbie wrote: >ug, sorry for the lengthiness, but i felt compelled to share... Yay, thanks Debbie, I thought I was the only one here.....I couldn't bear the thought that everyone was out having fun in London except me. I'm still stuck in the office, still correcting thesis chapters, still willing mail to come forth and multiply. I'm finiding myself having to listen to "It could've been a brilliant career" and forget everything else. Now here's my dilemma.....I often find that the best albums are those that have taken a while to grow on me, but with TBWTAS, I immediately clapped along......so, if i continuously play it, will I learn to loathe it??? Aaaah, a quandary! I think I'll chance it.....it hasn't happened yet with IYFS, but then, I didn't automatically love that.... Byeeee Sarah xx ======================= Sarah Wheeler Room 106 West Medical Building University of Glasgow GLASGOW G12 8QQ 0141-339 8855 ext.2860 ======================= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From RNor321031 at xxx.com Mon Sep 7 20:55:47 1998 From: RNor321031 at xxx.com (RNor321031 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 15:55:47 EDT Subject: Sinister: RE: damn it all, im including a picture Message-ID: <10f370f1.35f43a43@aol.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hello, So I'm reading all these emails to the sinister mailing thing. And everybody is very excited about the new album, and over there in england every one is actually seeing B&S live and talking about them. Not like they're big rock stars or anything, but like there real people. See , I have to wait almost 2 months till they come to athens, GA. But, realy I want to thank you all for being so cool. And in like one day, they have a new album. So. anyway its labor day in the US. So im celebrating the fact that I work 5 days a week by drinking beer and that doing that other unmentionable thing. Im watching my neighbor's cat cause he went to some progressive rock festival. I told him that about all the bands that were realy progressive (besides king crimson and yes of course) , like belle and sebastian. Hes a pretty good guy though. Anyway ereryone email me and tell me lots of good stuff, and try not to get too artsy about it. I just bought paul simons greatest hits, from the 70's. He was definatly the shit, wasn't he? The picture is of a turkey (a giant one) that came to me in a dream. Take it easy everyone. Rich +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rnorth at xxx.uk Tue Sep 8 02:36:52 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Sweet & Tender Hooligan) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 01:36:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: shep bush dream number two Message-ID: <199809080017.BAA13393@cadmus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* lets hear from Northy..... wow that was good i thought a shamble beckoned after the initial hollering and hooting (wankers) but it was brilliant IMO and I saw my first listee - thank you Katrina. anyways cool t-shirts too bye Northy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jwg.wren at xxx.com Tue Sep 8 01:57:54 1998 From: jwg.wren at xxx.com (Jonathan Wren) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 01:57:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: 'Nuff respect to... Message-ID: <35F48112.B7CC3B01@dial.pipex.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* I thought I'd break my four month silence to thank everyone I met tonight for a truly excellent evening. I probably would have made it to the Plastic People (or whatever it was called) thingy in Tottenham Court Road but a lethal mixture of tiredness, sobriety and the fact I'd lost the mate I'd gone to the gig with and would've got the night bus home with took over and I jumped the last train back to Barkingside. So it's hello to Andre, Oon, the delightful Miss Julia (and friend from Edinburgh whose name I quite pathetically cannot remember but she was lovely), Chris Leonard and the quite lovely Keith and many others. I only wish I had got to meet the Duke as I was eager to find out 101 things to do in Exeter so I am prepared for my departure in a few weeks. The gig itself was cool, though, for the most part, *far* too quiet. I am the last person to say "whack it up to 10" (I have the tinnitus to prove it!) but when you can't even hear bits of Century of Fakers and you're standing about five rows back, then I think they should increase the volume. It must have been practically inaudible at the back. They "rocked out" a bit on DIrty Dream Number Two but then it went all quiet again. Still lovely, though. Highlight was the title track of the new album. Myself and two other blokes kept the handclaps going throughout goddamit and an aching arms time was had by, well, me. For me they've done nothing better than this song. It is so beautiful it brings a tear to my eye. Those handclaps and *that* recorder solo. Wow. Can't wait `til next time. Night, night, pop kids. All the best, Jon -- ****************************************** FANTASTIC O's!!! 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From parachute at xxx.net Tue Sep 8 02:13:28 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (brad) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 21:13:28 -0400 Subject: Sinister: re: some things Message-ID: <35F484B8.5817@earthlink.net> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* i don't get mad easily. especially by people i don't even know. well, i went off on the magnetic fields list a while back...but that's a different story. i have a problem with the following: "I think there's just too many people UP themselves about their music, it's not music any more it's a credibility race and I think that smells." i personally am hoping to gain loads of new friends by voicing an opinion on a record. just the other day i was walking down the street and out of nowhere i scream "BON JOVI IS CRAP!!!" a couple people patted me on the back and said, "damn, you're cool....and also quite credible." and: "I think there's no point nit picking for something you don't like so you can be a cool wanker, going "ah ys well I don't like THAT one, the rest of it's OK though", when you should be happy to scream" wowsers" this is prety damn brilliant and every song is great!" but what if one song stinks? must you like it because of who it is. THAT'S a sign of a "credibility" issue. and, finally: "I dunno, is it my age, am I just a wee thing at 17 and don't know how things should be?" yeah. i never said the album is crap. it's quite possibly (along with lambchop) the best album this year. and i think duke was right on. there's too many a-sides onthe album. not that you should have good song, crap song, okay song, great song in that order. but too many "up" points doesn't make for an even album. sinister was like one big song divided in ten parts. the new one is like three e.p.'s combined onto one disc. but at the same time, the songs themselves are fucking brilliant. wasting my time, brad +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erinlew at xxx.com Tue Sep 8 05:45:25 1998 From: erinlew at xxx.com (Erin Lewis) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 21:45:25 PDT Subject: Sinister: i sure done messed up Message-ID: <19980908044527.10851.qmail@hotmail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hey kids! I have absolutely nothing to add about the new album, because I don't have it yet! So I will add a flash of brilliance that occurred to me today. I just found out that the secret song at the end of "3,6,9 Seconds of Light" was called "Songs for Children", so I had another listen to the lyrics, and found I was totally off. Do you know what I thought they were singing? "Belle and Sebastian/ on the radio/ they insult the children/ Belle and Sebastian/ on the radio/ they insult humanity..." I thought this made sense in conjunction with them apologizing for the trouble they caused at the end of the song. For the five of you who don't have it yet, it's supposed to be "playing songs for chilren" and "playing songs to learn and sing". (i am so smart. s-m-r-t.) Raise your hand if you are also guilty of this blunder. Raise your hand if you like my version better. :) -Miss Erin ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cranbeau at xxx.edu Tue Sep 8 05:59:33 1998 From: cranbeau at xxx.edu (Travis Hibbs) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 23:59:33 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Fluffy- draw a window on my skin Message-ID: <35F4B9AE.2CCA7986@ou.edu> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Well, your critique was a bit abrasive... I suppose everyone will heal alright. I just had to write and find out if you're a big Robyn Hitchcock & the Egyptians fan (or just Robyn). Is anyone else out there? You definitely scored some cool points with your subject heading : ) I was in England and Scotland for about three weeks, and i kept asking around and NO ONE knew him... : ( He is one of my absolute *faves* His lyrics are so hilarious and deep at the same time. Sigh. You should all go out and buy "Perspex Island" immediately. Mid-west boy travis "I'm tryin' to tell you something 'bout my life, Maybe give me insight between black and white..." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From techno at xxx.uk Tue Sep 8 06:20:23 1998 From: techno at xxx.uk (TechnoSphere) Date: Tue, 08 September 1998 06:20:23 BST Subject: Sinister: TS II Communication Message-ID: <199809080520.GAA25936@tdg.linst.ac.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* ************************* TechnoSphere Telegram ************************ These are the highlights of Boy With Arab Strap's (ID 716219) life in TechnoSphere recently: Boy With Arab Strap mated with Bobby (ID 714575) but conception didn't take place. Boy With Arab Strap attacked food (ID 695923) but it was too strong and got away. Boy With Arab Strap mated with nickTHEbuttshaker (ID 711070) but conception didn't take place. Boy With Arab Strap attacked nickTHEbuttshaker (ID 711070) but it was too strong and got away. Boy With Arab Strap mated with Butane (ID 710818) but conception didn't take place. Boy With Arab Strap successfully defended itself from an attack by mulder (ID 715531) who lived to fight another day. Boy With Arab Strap mated with Susie Llantwit (ID 714704) but conception didn't take place. Boy With Arab Strap mated with Loog (ID 715220) but conception didn't take place. Boy With Arab Strap mated with Terrance (ID 713004) but conception didn't take place. Boy With Arab Strap mated with Terrance (ID 713004) but conception didn't take place. Boy With Arab Strap mated with DianaI (ID 709414) but conception didn't take place. Boy With Arab Strap mated with Yik Kid (ID 705760) but conception didn't take place. Boy With Arab Strap mated with Cyril (ID 712619) but conception didn't take place. Boy With Arab Strap mated with Klaas (ID 714397) but conception didn't take place. Boy With Arab Strap mated with love Dr. (ID 695360) but conception didn't take place. Boy With Arab Strap mated with Tempest (ID 709335) but conception didn't take place. Boy With Arab Strap mated with Deville (ID 715398) but conception didn't take place. Boy With Arab Strap mated with Killer (ID 713834) but conception didn't take place. *************************** End Transmission *************************** TechnoSphere II is at: http://www.technosphere.org.uk or: http://tdg.linst.ac.uk/technosphere or: http://technosphere.linst.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From CrimsonKing at xxx.net Tue Sep 8 08:36:26 1998 From: CrimsonKing at xxx.net (Shaft) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 07:36:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: B&S club play Message-ID: <19980908073626.LTEH28399@LOCALNAME> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* A few weeks ago somebody sent a post asking about Brit-pop clubs in Los Angeles, and obviously Cafe Bleu was the one mentioned by all that responded. While I have been going for a few months now, they played B&S for the first time last week, "Photo Jenny" to be exact. The DJ was a lady whom I congratulated on throwing in such little gems as B&S and Super Furry Animals along with the usual (but still great) Cafe Bleu dose of Pulp, Blur, Stone Roses, and other Brit super powers of the '90s. The guy who came on after her played some classic Bowie and Roxy Music, so the night was cool all around. I know this post was pretty uninteresting to most, but I guess what I'm trying to say is that those in the LA area have an even better reason to visit Cafe Bleu now. Before I sign off, thanks to this list, I've recently purchased CDs by Arab Strap and Salako. While neither match up to B&S IMHO, I'm still impressed with them in comparison to 99.9% of the pop music we're exposed to. I've ordered some Snow Patrol through the mail, but they haven't arrived yet, so I'll save comment until later. Take Care- Andy #:-) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mjh18 at xxx.uk Tue Sep 8 10:08:45 1998 From: mjh18 at xxx.uk (M.J. Hibbett) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 10:08:45 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: The New Boy... Message-ID: <26126.199809080908@harrier.le.ac.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Morning all - just joined up this morning after months of lurking via the archive, prompted by being at Nottingham on Saturday and getting the record yesterday... The gig was GRATE, i've seen them five times now (B&S always seem to bring out the Manics Fan in me), and apart from the first time this was the best i've seen them, a million miles away from the appalling shambles of Manchester and closer to the ROCK MONSTERS in Glasgow. I was right at the front, so could actually hear, only impreded by the WOrst Singing Woman ... EVER stood right next to me who insisted on singing every song VERY loudly and VERY VERY badly. At one point even Stuart stared at her in astonishment. Still, was B&S so everyone was MUCH too polite to say anything... Best bit for me was them doing Belle & Sebastian, but during State I'm In and Seymour Stein i was WELLING UP, i was quite astonished as i NEVER do this. It was - hey - all too beautiful. My Young Lady took a load of photo's, which is another reason i took the plunge - i anyone wants a copy of her pictures (she does it for a living [tho not of bands!] so they'll be good) let me know, she's doing them soon, and copies should be about 3 quid. Anyway, got the ALBUM yesterday, and after slight worries at the standard of new songs i was releived to be completely GOT by "It Could Have Been A Beautiful Career", they lyrics of which completely stunned me. It's my favourite so far, probably along with "Son Of My Father"... Cheers, Mark +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Martin_Conneely at finance.irlgov.ie Mon Sep 7 12:54:36 1998 From: Martin_Conneely at finance.irlgov.ie (Martin Conneely) Date: 7 Sep 98 12:54:36 Subject: Sinister: It could have been a brilliant LP Message-ID: <9809081435.AA3159@mail.irlgov.ie> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Only joking. I took David Kitchen's advice and waited for the full impact, which we got last Friday evening. Joss had played DD#2* and TBWTAS on his wireless programme on Thursday which caused some distress. My wife, son and PJ Miller doll all got very excited on heaing TBWTAS and started singing "when I die an' they lay me to rest, gonna go to the place that's the best, when I lay me down to die, gonna recommend me to the spirit in the sky" Martin C * Is the "chameleon" in DD#1 Boy George? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Martin_Conneely at finance.irlgov.ie Mon Sep 7 12:40:28 1998 From: Martin_Conneely at finance.irlgov.ie (Martin Conneely) Date: 7 Sep 98 12:40:28 Subject: Sinister: Last lines Message-ID: <9809081435.AA3167@mail.irlgov.ie> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* The last line of "A Brilliant Career" marks it out as the most amazingly mature popsong to date - IYFS overtook Eleanar Rigby.. ABC leaves Kurt Weill/B Brecht behind. The last line of "Is it Wicked not to care" brings it down to the level of what many on the list could write. I presume that Mr Murdoch did that juxtapositioning deliberately. Martin C +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From adamrobinson at xxx.uk Tue Sep 8 12:13:59 1998 From: adamrobinson at xxx.uk (Adam Robinson) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 12:13:59 +0100 Subject: Sinister: My two-penn'orth about the new album Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From uczcvap at xxx.uk Tue Sep 8 13:22:55 1998 From: uczcvap at xxx.uk (Vicky Parkinson) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 12:22:55 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Please sir, can i have some more? Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19980908122255.3df7d798@pop-server.bcc.ac.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* It's not fair! I want it to be Sept 7th again, so I can be back at the Shepherd's bush empire, revelling again in the gloriousness that is Belle and Sebastian, and I could try and get nearer the front so I could hear them better, and marvel at Neil's wonderful bass playing (bravo Neil, fame as a musician at last!) and mingle more among you lovely people, because I definetely didn't do enough. I'm so gutted that I never got to talk to Keith, to have that 4hr debate on why Xfm was so good etc. But I met Kevan, who's cool ,and has a Looper t-shirt (and also made all the right noises when i asked him if he liked my tape - ta!), and loads of lovely people in the Firkin, and at Plastic People later on, which was just getting going, getting into University Union disco c.1992 - style, when I was dragged, kicking and screaming (well, ok, still dancing to Happy Mondays on Oxford Street) in order to get a lovely 4hrs sleep. Boy, I've got to write a chapter of my dissertation today, it's going to be quality stuff, I can tell you! Who won the copy of Tigermilk then? Was it a sinister person or did it go 'outside' (gasps of shock and horror) Lucky bugger. What have I got to look forward to now, now that the gig is over, and my univeristy career is finally at an end? Oh yes, three weeks in Toronto, I think I'll survive. Honey, you're such a star for making it possible for us all to meet and stuff. And David and Katrina do a spiffing job. And the band, the band are just undescribably great. I think I'm going to cry I'm so happy...I'm hungover, how can I be this happy, nay, ecstatic?! Sorry, I got a bit carried away! I'll go now, and leave you to wonder at my sanity. My Balistic Blueberry Muffin has been complaining that he's been neglected far too long so I'll have to rectify that, Vicky xxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tton at xxx.edu Tue Sep 8 13:38:39 1998 From: tton at xxx.edu (THAIAN N TON) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 08:38:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Sleep Around The Clock Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hello beautiful listees, today's the day! i'm dancing as we speak! i think i will sing in lecture so everyone will have a bit of belle and sebastian. then, like the rest i will sleep. :) wee chi chi xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Tue Sep 8 12:58:11 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 12:58:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Last lines References: <9809081435.AA3167@mail.irlgov.ie> Message-ID: <35F51BD3.228310B7@jeepster.co.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Martin Conneely wrote: > > The last line of "A Brilliant Career" marks it out as the most > amazingly mature popsong to date > > The last line of "Is it Wicked not to care" brings it down to the > level of what many on the list could write. > > I presume that Mr Murdoch did that juxtapositioning deliberately. nope, you're forgetting that Mr Murdoch is not the only song writer in the band. the first track is murdochs, whilst the second is isobels. but what does that matter? is it possible to critically rate a whole song in context using the last line? :) david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Tue Sep 8 13:07:59 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 13:07:59 +0100 Subject: Sinister: B&S tribute References: <35F407F0.A829DB20@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Message-ID: <35F51E1F.9331C594@jeepster.co.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Marco Braca wrote: > > There's someone that tell me the meaning of : > 1) INK POLAROID > 2) LOOPER both of these ar projects by stuart david (the bassist). ink polaroids are a form of shorter fiction, and looper is a little band that stuart and his wife karn are in. you can find loads of information on both of these prjoects on the treehouse website (also run by stuart david), it's at http://www.treehouse.clara.net/ david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From padraic_fresheire at xxx.com Tue Sep 8 14:03:32 1998 From: padraic_fresheire at xxx.com (padraic doorey) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 06:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: if like me.... Message-ID: <19980908130332.15164.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* aaaaah - if like me you were there last night you are probably still reeling and living off the buzz. floating beanie boy elliot smith rocked my world. why wasn't everyone a bit quieter? B&S wrapped me in an aural comforter and rocked me in a delightful dreamland. sigh. no *fabu* "sleep the clock around" but my daddy said to me once "you could fly to the moon and you still wouldn't be happy". happy whispering sinister sounds filled the room and the air carried the words and the chords to the corner where i was standing and most people fell silent. top moment? le finale (en francais)....isobel sang that gainsbourg ditty with the panache of one playing a reindeer game. *bravo!* the boy with the arab strap, especially the ending...i attempted to keep up with mark's hand-clapping but i had to stop because my hands were getting sore. i was too sleepy for the club. a sort of "don't park your chicken beside a fox" rationale. i hear reports of cheery goings-on and the like. but i couldn't have felt any better. i went home on the bus with jamie cola and ate mature cheese and childish baguette and continued to "la la la" to ourselves and thought "my, i really am falling for those sexy scottish accents"....mysterious poster clutching girl with black hair crossed my path again and again and again. mocha? when i slept i dreamt of a huge icy landscape of white and blue cracks underneath, all coming apart from one another. one huge iceberg pulls away from another, falling apart and crashing. bleak and cold and wet, as a day in brixton can be, i awoke. my bag, shapeless and empty in front of me, torn from abuse received on vacations paid for on credit. it was ready and so was filled and dragged downstairs to the waiting, honking car. cosmetic smelling hair from my head, dripping and freezing, freezing as the droplets fell on my face. going up. and away. and looking down at the ice. no obectives, nothing to do. just to go. i am different from you. seeing it makes me want to kick the powder miles below, to get an ice-cream headache when i fall face first into the snow, to cry from raw pain when a gritty snowball hits my face. "it's my eye" i'd cry. - sometimes it's awesome just to look at things in dreams, non? analysis, please if you can be arsed. i have this dream quite a lot. i love you all, *hugs* lady penelope (on a floating cloud...the pink roller is in the shop) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Tue Sep 8 13:02:55 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 13:02:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Everything References: <199809071257.NAA27314@unixb.lancs.ac.uk> Message-ID: <35F51CEF.3812556B@jeepster.co.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* MATTHEW WIMBURY wrote: > 8) Had to get the mansun album as well today.....not very well liked > on here it seems, are they? i don't mind people liking mansun, people can like whatever they wish to, but how about a boycot on mansun, hole and divine comedy for one week to help increase the chart potential of TBWTAS? it would be cool to get a top ten or something silly, a nice big two fingers up to an industry who have largely ignored and ridiculed B&S and us (the people who like their records - remeber Stephen Wells 'sheep' comment?). just an idea you know, other people mentioned it too, so don't shoot the messenger! > 9) Belle and Sebastian are still the most wonderful band in the world > then....cool... damn right :) david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From k97jan at xxx.se Tue Sep 8 14:15:08 1998 From: k97jan at xxx.se (Jenny Andersson) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 15:15:08 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Tickets for B&s-concert in Stockholm wanted! Message-ID: <35F52DDC.3716A80E@student.tdb.uu.se> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hello, Since the tickets for the concert in Stockholm were sold out faster than I can say "I`m dying to see Belle and Sebastian" I would be so happy if anyone got two spare tickets for the concert to sell to me and my dear friend. Please do send me a message at : k97jan at student.tdb.uu.se hugs and kisses Jenny +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JohnJ at xxx.com Tue Sep 8 14:13:33 1998 From: JohnJ at xxx.com (John Johnston) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 14:13:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: robust opinions Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Well I was there at Sheps Bush and it was all,well, hmmm. A bit iffy biffy I thought. What was best was seeing lots of sinister people and putting faces to names etc. A big shout out to you all and a big sorry to Charlotte for all my behaviour. And my delightful house guests were a joy and showered me with gifts - a pneumatic blonde, some booze and a rather dashing piece of Nottinghamshire headgear -thanks. But that long wait for the band...I reckon they've got rid of the gaps between songs and saved them up for one big one at the start (boom boom!). Now I'm sure they didn't do it on purpose but as it was I thought the atmosphere was poisonous by the time they got on. And the charming and gentle way they start their set wasn't the sort of thing to win over the doubters I reckon. Not unlike Russ Abbot (with whom I also share a passion for wry humour) I like a party with a happy atmosphere and to start with we really didn't have one and I didn't enjoy that. If they'd come out and played "The Boy with the Arab Strap" the way they did later on I think the reception would have been tumultuous and set things off much better. But when they did play it it was a stormer and things really picked up towards the end. In fact after the raffle (god bless B&S!) I think it really got going. Highlights 1.TBWTAS 2.That French song that Isobel sang - name anyone?? 3.Turning and seeing Honey reclining in the engineers box with Oon fanning him - respect. 4. New mugs I also have a new favourite Seb. - Mick Cooke - he RULES!! xx John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SIV_941299 at xxx.no Tue Sep 8 14:22:53 1998 From: SIV_941299 at xxx.no (CHRISTIAN AAMODT) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 15:22:53 +0200 (MET-DST) Subject: Sinister: tour dates - any Norwegian dates? Message-ID: <980908152253.25421316@debet.nhh.no> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hello there! I just joined the list, and I wonder... Does anyone have a complete list of their tour in September, especially - any Norwegian dates? -Christian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Tue Sep 8 14:15:25 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 14:15:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Techno what?? Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E221F3F78@server1.HITEntertainment.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* So who else thought that bizarre mailing about "Boy with Arab Strap's" mating habits was the best laugh in ages? "Boy with Arab Strap attacked food but it was too strong and got away" - maybe it's not actually funny at all, but it certainly tickled me. Either that or it's the details of all the listee couplings that resulted from the Be and Ess world tour... If anyone knows what it meant, please let me know... London, 7/9/98, then. I was SO upset at the lack of volume - I couldn't have felt less immersed in the music - it was like listening to a poorly taped copy in the middle of a house party. I am underwhelmed, and even though it did gte a bit louder towards the end, I still came away from the venue feeling just a little bit conned. It should have been the best gig of my life, but it doesn't even make the top ten, and I know it's cos of the volume. Stupid, I know, but I just got so annoyed being able to hear my neighbour's (whispered) conversation. The new album - I'm not so sure. Obviously it's far and away the bets thing released since IYFS, but what bothers me is the fact that while Tigermilk has (IMHO) six songs I couldn't live without, and Sinister has seven, there are only 2 on Towboats that I really, really get excited about (okay then, 3 if you count Seymour Stein). And I bet you can all guess to which two I am referring - it seems that this album has resulted in a lot more consensus about the best songs on it than the previous ones, which I think can only be a negative thing. But maybe I've just overlistened. Chissa'. Biondinetto, +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Tue Sep 8 14:32:40 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:32:40 EDT Subject: Sinister: That's the way I like it baby! I don't wanna live forever! THE ACE OF SPADES!! Message-ID: <55e90538.35f531f8@aol.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Last night really was quite strange. I mean in a good way. Maybe. The point I'm kind of trying to make is that Shepherds Bush seemed really B&S, and totally not, all at the same time. I mean, ticket touts! Bootlegged T shirts and posters! Perma-tanned rich bastard designer label types buying tickets, and yet not really getting the point at all...more 'celebrities' trying to be spotted than you'd want to imagine...it was odd. There's something horribly unsettling about listening to Stuart's angelic voice while crunching beer glasses underfoot, and getting pissed on from the balcony. I'm not sure if I like this turn of events at all (though the band seemed fairly comfortable- Stuart silencing hecklers by simply flapping his hands dismissively and going sshhh!) I just hope that they get the venue they deserve next time round. And the audience they deserve, too... BUUUT.. Belle and Sebastian seem to have got through their awkward, clumsy years at last, and emerged as a staggeringly witty, incisive, and, goddamn it, sexy P!O!P! machine. One of the best bands that will ever grace anyone's ears, ever. And the sound levels were right, and the pauses between songs were comfortable, they were generally in tune, and very funny. The only slight problem was the whole starting 45 minutes late thing. Maybe someone with backstage passes can fill us in on the drama behind the scenes? That was not fun at all. Or the lack of proper ventilation. If it had been any other band, everyone would have walked out. As it was, we just grumbled and perspired. Still, I don't want to sound like a wingeing git. The album's poptastic, the band are incredibly good live now, and I met stacks of lovely people at the firkin (and didn't meet lots that I meant to.) And Trash...wow. After that we walked round for a few hours, sheltering from the rain, and sticking spare B&S flyers everywhere we thought would look nice. And remarking upon the uncanny resemblence between Motorhead and B&S. I really must sleep now seb BTW, Northy, you must have met at least 2 list people; 'cause I was handing out the ..strap flyers on the door. No, not the one with the tank top, nor the one with the nasty facial hair. I was the one humming happy tunes. It's all over now. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Tue Sep 8 14:39:29 1998 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgal) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 06:39:29 PDT Subject: Sinister: new CD!!! Message-ID: <19980908133930.13055.qmail@hotmail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* OOOH I THINK I*M IN LOVE WITH NEW BELLE CD...I KNOW I WILL CRY WHEN I SEE THEM HERE IN STOCKHOLM!! I ESPECIALLY LOVE THE SONG A SUMMER WASTING...GOD...IT'S BRILL..IT MADE MY LIFE SO MUCH MORE EASY... BELLE AND SEB HELP ME THROUGH IT ALL...:) SEE YOU SWEDISH FOLKS HOPEFULLY IN 3TO 2 WEEKS TIME...YES!! LOVE becky # go and have a peek at my page it's constantly developing, http://www.angelfire.com/me/Mizzy # ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grabutcho at xxx.com Tue Sep 8 14:53:39 1998 From: grabutcho at xxx.com (Julien Boëldieu) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 06:53:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: more seconds of light Message-ID: <19980908135339.13422.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hello everyone ! All that I want to say about the London concert is that it was a moment of grace, sweetness, calm, peace, light. And that was just what I needed yesterday evening. The girl I miss so seemed so far away... Why are such moments ALWAYS too short in life ? Why can't they last forever ? Thanks again to Belle and Sebastian for being so human. :) Julien. PS : 1. The Shepherds Bush Empire is beautiful. 2. I discovered last night Eliott Smith. He is a great songwriter. 3. Can somebody explain to me why the people there couldn't help talking loud and moving from one place to another during the songs (even during B&S's one !) ? I think it's not kind for the artists and for the people who wanted to listen to the songs. This has really shocked me. :( 4. Highlights were to me "Stars of track and field" and "Like Dylan in the movies". 5. The french song sung by Isobel is called "Poup�e de cire, poup�e de son". It was written by Serge Gainsbourg for France Gall in the 60's. She won the Eurovision competition for France with it. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Andreas.Hering at xxx.de Tue Sep 8 15:04:43 1998 From: Andreas.Hering at xxx.de (Perfection As A Hipster) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:04:43 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Sinister: The New Boy... Message-ID: <199809081404.QAA18742@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* M.J. Hibbett wrote ... >My Young Lady took a load of photo's, which is another reason i took the plunge >- i anyone wants a copy of her pictures (she does it for a living [tho not of >bands!] so they'll be good) let me know, she's doing them soon, and copies >should be about 3 quid. May I suggest that fellow listees should also send for a copy of the M.J. Hibbett / Sienna split 7" from the same address ? §;^D Seriously, the contributions of "The New Boy" are bound to make you smile and funnily dance around in your room. "Clubbing In The Week" (is GRATE) was described by one distinguished critic as "Geoffrey Ingram" having "Parties In Chelsea" with "The Boy In The Paisley Shirt" while ignoring the fact that the songwriter is not even aware of the early Television Personalities output. §;^D "Fucking Hippy" ... how could you miss out on lyrics such as "You hippy, with your whimsical delusion, that if you grow your hair you can start a revolution ... you believe in love and peace, but you hate your friends and you insist on eating meat, you fucking hippy" which musically recalls the legendary "Orgasm" album by The Pooh Sticks. Knowing that some of you are lost regarding such comparitive descriptions, you are well advised to obey the "Support Your Local P!O!P! Underground" notion. Well, time is very limited these days so I won't bother you with my assessment of the new album, only thought I'd mention that, contrary to malicious tongues, I never wrote Melody Maker reviews under a pseudonym. §;^D "Time Is All I've Seen (Sea Urchins) Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ayacolor at xxx.com Tue Sep 8 15:18:33 1998 From: Ayacolor at xxx.com (Ayacolor at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 10:18:33 EDT Subject: Sinister: Sinisater:I got! kattayo!! Message-ID: <9183c927.35f53cb9@aol.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* I found out why some Japanese called ""kinisinai" de "itemoii"?" TBWAS! Because this Japanese transelater translate "is it wicked not to care" in Japanese!! Yes it means that. Hmmm... I know it is hard to translate The Boy with the Arab Strap in Japanese. And this girl (I found this Japanse is "she" ) gave note to "safeway" as major super market in England!!! CUTE!!!! GROOVY!!! I'm so happy happy happy~~~ I'm cring bacause of this album!!!! ROCK ME!!!! saiko~ ssu!!! AyaXXX +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tangent at xxx.net Tue Sep 8 14:59:19 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:59:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: london set list References: Message-ID: <35F53837.CF07AC0D@lineone.net> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* views and reviews of the london soiree later i don't doubt. meantime, here's the set list. yes i am a sad bastard and jotted it all down in my trusty notebook. and in case anyone was worrying, i found a lovely spot by the back wall downstairs, beside lots of lovely people, and it was wonderful :-) simple things stars of track and field dylan is it wicked not to care? dirty dream #2 belle and sebastian lonliness of a middle distance runner chickfactor seeing other people spaceboy dream (the raffle for Tigermilk) century of fakers get me away from here... seymour stein boy with the arab strap i don't love anyone poupee de cire, poupee de son (serge gainsbourg song, eurovision 65 winner by France Gall, later done by Twinkle, which is a strange coincidence since i made a Twinkle parallel with Isobel in my Cockfun thing...) hope that enlightens someone. the duke -- 'all of our dreams are dying of overdoses' Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hb1ugs at xxx.uk Tue Sep 8 16:32:37 1998 From: hb1ugs at xxx.uk (hb1ugs at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 15:32:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Leeds gig Message-ID: <199809081425.PAA29144@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Just a few words about the Leeds concert..... Well the long good Friday finally arrived and duly started in the Whitelocks pub in Leeds, where a hardy contingent of listees had gathered for a pre match snifter or two. There was a good mix of familiar faces and people making their first visit...the atmosphere was relaxed and holiday-like, as indeed many peole were using up their well earned holidays to follow the band around. Keith was his usual suave, sophisticated self, the undisputed Des Lynham of the B&S world...honestly, smooth as a cashmere codpiece...Twas also nice to say hi to Tim "Fucker" Hopkins and Nick Dastoor in person for the first time. Well we made the short journey to the venue, a theatre with proper stalls and everything, very olde worlde music hall stylee and no mistake. Luckily, David and Katrina had remembered to shut the door on the van this time and had an excellent range of wares, which I blew nearly a whole week's income support on...oh well, Aldi baked beans for tea again. The gig itself was superb, the band played wonderfully, obviously having found the number of a decent rehearsal studio since Christmas. They still managed to keep their intrinsic charm though, Stu M forgetting the words to Get Me Away....for instance, and the band members sitting charmingly on stage when their services were not called on in certain songs. It's just that they seem to have realised that value for money is not a dirty notion. The swapping of instruments also worked much better due to the fact that the band didn't have to walk a 100 yards to the other side of the stage to pick up the triangle. Anyway the old favourites were ace, even if they were played without that bit of spark. Dylan in Manchester on Sunday sent shivers down my spine, here it was still a humdinger of a choon, but was just a bit too, um, technical, if you get my meaning. Beautiful Career was gorgeous, as was Is it Wicked not to Care, and the whole performance was just spot on. Quality gig show from the best band in the world. It couldn't get any better. Oh but it did. Afterwards, Brighton Beach in Leeds was the scene of a few listees (moi, Keith, Tag, Tall Stu, Sarah, Julia, Chris L, Nick D and others) being joined by Stevie, Chris and Mick for a hearty and very sweaty stomp along to some marvellous Northern Soul. I realise that a lot of people on this list probably know the band quite well, but for me the sheer pleasure of dancing like a moron next to honest to goodness *stars* is hard to beat. Even the power failing didn't detract as it gave me the chance to have a quick chat with Stevie, a thoroughly nice bloke if ever one lived. Oh and it's always nice to see Tag frugging away like a good un. this man knows how to dance to Northern Soul. Respect. Sooooo, anyway, sorry for droning on, but if you weren't there you missed a treat, yes you did. Risso PS Thanks to Keith and Chris for the drinks, I owe you one +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From G.Paterson at xxx.uk Tue Sep 8 15:38:11 1998 From: G.Paterson at xxx.uk (Jonas) Date: 08 Sep 1998 15:38:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Some thoughts... Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Forgive the intrusion oh well established list people but I have been lurking on the list for a couple of week snow and thought it was time I introduced myself properly and share my thoughts about B&S with you (if you are interested). My name is Giles Paterson and I'm still a student at the delightful University of Bradford, although this is my final year so I shall soon have to face the cruel and scary world head on (or maybe just slip quietly into the flow if that works better...). Anyway, I was introduced into the world of B&S last year when my sisiter gave me "If you're feeling sinister" on CD (not owning a working record player as she does). I listened to it all summer long whilst working for virtually no money. Sadly my girlfriend (sorry fiancee), Cate, did notlike the music as much as I did, which was a shame especially as our music tastes are usually very similar in other respects (okay so she doesn't like my Moloko CD and I don't like her Bananarama CD but you get the idea). Anyway a year later and I have now turned 21 and purchased "The boy with the arab strap" which I think is pretty damn good (although I've only listened to it 4 times so far so some of the tracks may grow on me some more raising the album even further in my esteem). Sadly I do not own any of the EPs that B&S have done as whenever I have heard about them I am unable to or am too late to find them in my local record shops (I'm probably just looking in the wrong ones - Can anyone suggest a good record shop in Bradford?). I think TBWTAS may well be the album to fully convert Cate to the "Joys of B&S". Reasons for liking B&S? They seem to be a very "human" band. In that I mean that they act like real people and not like star-struck seek-fame-at-the-expense-of-all-else fools that so many bands seem to develop into. Having just taken a look at the treehouse web site, jeepster's web site and others, I find B&S to be an inspirational group of people, especially Stuart David's Ink Polaroids. I may try my hand at some of those, to develop my latent writing yearnings. Oh yeah and the music is good too. Well most of you are probably not even remotely interested in my inane ramblings and I apologise for cluttering up your mail box. However I thought it only polite to introduce myself rather than lurking in the shadows like some sort of shadowy, lurking thing. If anyone has any ink polaroids or similar that they would like to share with me then please feel free to email me (g.paterson at scm.brad.ac.uk - just in case your mail program is being very silly and not showing you my address). Or if you just want to chat, or if anyone would like to take me under their wing in this world of B&S. Thank you for reading. -- Giles Paterson 4th Year MEng Software Engineering Student, "... Nowadays it is hard to die young, no matter how stupid, slow or myopic you are." Dr Richard Dawkins +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rbegbi at xxx.com Tue Sep 8 16:16:36 1998 From: rbegbi at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:16:36 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Londonium - Repost Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hey there! I tried to post this message earlier, but having a look through the archive to see what others have been saying, it seems to have disappeared into the ether, so here it is again: -- 'lo Chaps! Well, that was scary. Walking into a pub in London, not knowing what any of the people you're about to meet look like, but having them recognise you! (The Helen Love T-shirt, y'see. Works every time!) Luckily, the predicted Begbie/Tag punch-up failed to materialise, so I was able to enjoy a drink with a load of people with alarmingly familiar names. To everyone I blethered to: I love you lots. Gig was very good - Audience were a bit standy-still and not quite boogieing enough - and I've never heard such a large group of people go "Shhhhh!" before - but the band were tops. Hand-Clappers of the world, unite! See ya next time, pop-chums! -- In addition to all that, in response to the point that others have raised: Yeah, I felt that the audience reaction was pretty strange - partially due to the fucking long wait (there was the start of some booing when yet another song started on the tape) - and while the band were great, it wasn't up there with the Edinburgh two cities concert which remains in my Top 3 gigs of all time (along with Elastica at T in the Park '95 and Teenage Fanclub at the Queen's Hall the same summer). Perhaps it was just the mood I was in, but meeting Sinister-types before the gig was more of an event to me than the show itself (I was sat on the night bus home thinking "Kevan was quite a sound bloke", not "That recorder solo was fab") Rod. PS. Charlotte - You're very lovely, and I apologise for talking so loudly :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sandrad at xxx.com Tue Sep 8 16:38:52 1998 From: sandrad at xxx.com (Sandra Duric) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 11:38:52 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Sandra & all, directions to Chicago In-Reply-To: <35F05610.4531CAC6@ou.edu> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980908113852.0095b770@mail.accu-staff.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hey Travis! Thanks for the info. BTW, all Toronto area fans - I just called TicketMaster 2 minutes ago and so far nothing confirmed, but I did talk to a really nice girl at the Opera House and she said they are waiting... But don't bombard them with phone calls!! She'll murder me for saying anything. As soon as I know, you'll know. sandra "i like grooves" At 04:05 PM 9/4/98 -0500, Travis Hibbs wrote: > > *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > >Hey Sandra and everyone thinking about going to the chicago show, > There's a really great map site at http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py >Enter in the Metro's address into the address field onscreen: > 3730 North Clark > Chicago, IL 60613 >The net will give you a map of the address and the surrounding area. >Under the map is button that says "Driving Directions." Press that >button and a screen will come up where you can enter *your* address and >then make a map from your house to the Metro! Print it out, it is >sooooo useful. > When I went to Chicago last spring, I didn't buy a map till I got to >the city. The "Map IT" page gave me accurate directions all the way >from Norman, Oklahoma. I would definitely tell you to get a map of >downtown Chicago, though. > >Good luck all! >Travis > >P.S. Feel free to email me if anyone wants to meet up there. > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mjh18 at xxx.uk Tue Sep 8 16:46:00 1998 From: mjh18 at xxx.uk (mjh18 at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:46:00 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: London will let you down In-Reply-To: <199809081404.QAA18742@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> from "Perfection As A Hipster" at Sep 8, 98 04:04:43 pm Message-ID: <16092.199809081546@owl.le.ac.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Thanks for the plug Andreas baby, i usually wait a few days until i start droning on about my stuff... Anyway, interesting to see that the London gig was the way it was i.e. rammed pack with London Arseholes more concerned with being SEEN at a gig than actually BEING there. When i went to the Islington one it was one of the most annoying gigs EVER because everyone was being so REVERENT. I actually heard people saying "Just think in years to come we will be able to say we were here" BEFORE they'd even got into the building! For heaven's sake ... that's no way to see a band. I know that heckles always sound extra-harsh at a B&S gig, but they're just people and if every time they play they get the same fawning admiration whether they're fantastic or woeful then it's all going to go horribly dreary... Which is not to say Saturday's gig was like that, at all, but one couldn't help noticing the band's concern when every song was greeted with the same reaction. Mind you, we should all be so lucky... Ooh, and another reason i got on the list is something i've been meaning to ask about for ages - i went to the Glasgow gig of the two cities weekend, just to see Adventures in Stereo and was completely BLOWN AWAY by B&S, if anyone got hassled by a drunken English bloke that nigth saying "This! This! This is FANTASTIC!", well that was me. Anyway, there was a huge van outside with loads of wires leading in, looking suspiciously like a mobile recording studio thing - what was that all about then? Is there a tape ANYWHERE of this gig? It was the best gig of my entire life (er... i believe i even manhandled Stuart as he went to the bar to say this...) and some recording of it would be nice... Cheers, Mark +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah.gilmour at xxx.uk Tue Sep 8 17:18:19 1998 From: sarah.gilmour at xxx.uk (Sarah Beth Gilmour) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:18:19 +0100 () Subject: Sinister: Londonium - Repost Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hi, I am new to the list and dont mean to be rude or wish to offend but just to let you know. It wasnt a tape playing between sets at the gig last night, but a real live dj - Andrew Symington - who can also be heard downstairs at the Art School, Glasgow, on a Saturday night. Sarah ;) On Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:16:36 -0400 Rod Begbie wrote: > > *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > > Hey there! > > I tried to post this message earlier, but having a look through the archive > to see what others have been saying, it seems to have disappeared into the > ether, so here it is again: > > -- > 'lo Chaps! > > Well, that was scary. Walking into a pub in London, not knowing what any of > the people you're about to meet look like, but having them recognise you! > (The Helen Love T-shirt, y'see. Works every time!) > > Luckily, the predicted Begbie/Tag punch-up failed to materialise, so I was > able to enjoy a drink with a load of people with alarmingly familiar names. > To everyone I blethered to: I love you lots. > > Gig was very good - Audience were a bit standy-still and not quite boogieing > enough - and I've never heard such a large group of people go "Shhhhh!" > before - but the band were tops. Hand-Clappers of the world, unite! > > See ya next time, pop-chums! > -- > > In addition to all that, in response to the point that others have raised: > Yeah, I felt that the audience reaction was pretty strange - partially due > to the fucking long wait (there was the start of some booing when yet > another song started on the tape) - and while the band were great, it wasn't > up there with the Edinburgh two cities concert which remains in my Top 3 > gigs of all time (along with Elastica at T in the Park '95 and Teenage > Fanclub at the Queen's Hall the same summer). Perhaps it was just the mood > I was in, but meeting Sinister-types before the gig was more of an event to > me than the show itself (I was sat on the night bus home thinking "Kevan was > quite a sound bloke", not "That recorder solo was fab") > > Rod. > > PS. Charlotte - You're very lovely, and I apologise for talking so loudly > :) > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Andreas.Hering at xxx.de Tue Sep 8 17:37:14 1998 From: Andreas.Hering at xxx.de (Perfection As A Hipster) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:37:14 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Sinister: The New Boy... Message-ID: <199809081637.SAA05691@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Of course I didn't write ... >"Support Your Local P!O!O! Underground" Things have obviously changed since I left the list ... HoneyPie, you're a cheeky sod. §:^D Anyway, kids ... "Support Your Local P-O-P Underground" Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tton at xxx.edu Tue Sep 8 17:43:06 1998 From: tton at xxx.edu (THAIAN N TON) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 12:43:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Philadelphia B&S Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hello again listees, I just got off the phone with the lovely man at the Trocadero in Philadelphia & have myself some pearly beautiful tickets for their gig there. Is their going to be a meet-up before the gig in Philly? I'd love to go, if my car can drive fast enough from Baltimore to make it ... Much wonderful karma, Wee Chi Chi xoxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Tue Sep 8 17:41:36 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:41:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Isn't Stuart Murdoch rather tasty? Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E221F3F84@server1.HITEntertainment.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Julien - I reckon it's not so much the people who were talking that was the problem, more the sound man being contrary and refusing to turn the bloody music up! Am I the only person who listens to Belle and Sebastian cranked up to 11 (TM) in the privacy of my own home? Padraic - hope your hands are better now - and they're such lovely hands too... Not quite boogieing enough, Rod? You obviously weren't in the middle left bit of downstairs where a P!O!O!P! frenzy was larging it in full effect - though on the whole the crowd did seem a little static, which is odd considering the number of funky, funky people on this list who were there...I agree with you about the people being the highlight of the night, although I was disappointed only to have a few seconds in the company of Nickie Dastoor when all night would have been too short... Anyway, 2 postings in a day is at least one and a half too many, so for now, cheerio! Mark xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Tue Sep 8 18:17:16 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (Megan K Lehar) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 13:17:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: ohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygod Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* this is basically how i've been feeling the past ten minutes since i picked up the new album!!!! ok, so all of you have had it forever, but i haven't been this excited since christmas when i was ten (last year can't count cause i was puking all over). but anyway, i'm listening to it now and it's all pretty and wonderful and happy. ahhhhhhh... in further news, at other music, they said the tickets for the b&s shows will probably go on sale *today* or tomorrow. so don't say i didn't warn you. check back kiddos!!!!! course i'll tell you when i get tickets. a slightly excitable megan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mphintz at xxx.com Tue Sep 8 18:35:12 1998 From: Mphintz at xxx.com (Mphintz at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 13:35:12 EDT Subject: Sinister: the kneeling bus Message-ID: <37194a7e.35f56ad0@aol.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* As I type this, it has been a week since I moved away from the family nest, again, and back to college life. Rutgers University is extremely large, and I must take buses to get between classes. I had not been a fan of buses before, and, despite being a Belle and Sebastian fan, still am not a fan of buses. They make me anxious whilst I have to wait. Riding on buses for a hobby would be sad indeed. The most interesting bus stop is at rundown barrack-type buildings, surrounded by fences with barbed wire. Needless to say, I have yet to see anyone use this stop. The buses are supposed to be polite and kneel down as you get on, but not one has kneeled for me. I take the insult personally. At this point, a bus would have to kneel and bow for me to think about taking a liking to them. I am not being demanding; I am talking about manners. Living and loving Matthew +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Tue Sep 8 18:38:16 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 18:38:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: jeepster-news: Belle & Sebastian - USA Confirmed Dates and new merchandise info Message-ID: <35F56B88.FECA832@jeepster.co.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hello all, well, we've been so busy this weekend with the gigs and stuff i think you already know all these details anyway, but here's the info i have for the CONFIRMED East Coast US dates: 21st October Boston Morse Auditorium @ The Photo Resource Centre, 602 Commonwealth Avenue, Boston, MA. Capacity 660. Support tba. Tickets cost US$15.00 and you can get more information by calling Middle East on 617 864 3278, ext 221. (apparently this is an all-ages gig) 23rd October Philadelphia Trocadero, 1003 Arch Street, Philadelphia, PA, 19107. Capacity 1200. Support tba. Tickets cost US$12.50 advance and US$14.00 on-the-door and you can get more information by calling Trocadero on 215 922 6888. 26th October Chicago Cabaret Metro, 3730 North Clark Street, Chicago, IL, 60613. Capacity 1100. Support Momus. Tickets cost US$14.00 and you can get more information by calling Metro on 773 549 4140. http://www.metrochicago.com (apparently this is an 18+ gig only) 1st November New York Supper Club, 240 West 47th Street, New York, NY, 10036. Capacity 1000. Support tbc. Tickets cost US$16.50 and you can purchase them AS OF TOMORROW (Wednesday 9th September) from Ticketmaster - http://www.ticketmaster.com or by phone on 212 307 7171 - in person at the Manhattan Centre Ballroom - 311 West 34th Street, NYC, NY - and also in person from the record shop Other Music - 15 East 4th Street, NYC, NY. All the other dates are still unconfirmed and i will post the details when they are. David has now put the new Belle & Sebastian merchandise on-line, so if you want to purchase the new t-shirt and badge designs, go visit http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a message from the Jeepster Records news mailing list. 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From yazansam at xxx.uk Tue Sep 8 17:38:58 1998 From: yazansam at xxx.uk (Yaz) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:38:58 +0200 Subject: Sinister: stuart if youre reading this why oh why dont you ever play the state that i'm in whenever we see you. hmm young man. hmm. Message-ID: <199809081846.TAA24002@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Jon Johnston, said: >But that long wait for the band...I reckon they've got rid of the gaps between songs and saved them up for one big one at the start (boom boom!). Now I'm sure they didn't do it on purpose but as it was I thought the atmosphere was poisonous by the time they got on. And the charming and gentle way they start their set wasn't the sort of thing to win over the doubters I reckon. Not unlike Russ Abbot (with whom I also share a passion for wry humour) I like a party with a happy atmosphere and to start with we really didn't have one and I didn't enjoy that. and then Markie mark said: >London, 7/9/98, then. I was SO upset at the lack of volume - I couldn't have felt less immersed in the music - it was like listening to a poorly taped copy in the middle of a house party. I am underwhelmed, and even though it did gte a bit louder towards the end, I still came away from the venue feeling just a little bit conned. It should have been the best >gig of my life, but it doesn't even make the top ten. mmm, well, i was kinda looking forward to it too (i cut short my holiday in Greece, didn't go to bed the night before, ran to the airport with this severe jetlag and hangover combination ran trough the Greeen. so clutching my stomach and turning to my friends i tell them that even though i'm so hot i feel as though i'm about to give birth, i think that a Belle and Sebastian gig is just about the only place in London where the audience actually tells eachother to (cue low rolling whispher that gathers pace as more people join in) ....*Sssshhusssshh* ... and i loved that, but i was still a bit upset that it wasn't like the Union Chapel thing where everyone was being really cuddly and just plain Huggable. so my best friend turns to me and says knowingly, ahh, but there's just something in the way Stuart Murdoch sings. (cue this big fat smile). his dimples. yaz x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Niceaction at xxx.com Tue Sep 8 19:46:30 1998 From: Niceaction at xxx.com (Niceaction at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 14:46:30 EDT Subject: Sinister: Apologies :o(( Message-ID: <988dec98.35f57b86@aol.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hiya all My names Jamie and im in Brighton.. Firstly, i must say soz to David Kitchen for commenting to him on Monday that i thought he was a much older guy... ooops, i just always pictured you as a kind of school teacher guy.. :o( Sowwwweee Anyways, who wants to put there hands up and admit to being the complete idiots for the hecling during the Shephards Bush gig... Comments like "Dance you lame fuckers" i mean, why, just give me half a reason for doing it, and i will forgive you !! grrrrrrr On a different subject, im gonna be on the phone tommorow trying to get tickets for the NY gig.. Fingers Crossed.. Take it easy people Jamie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tangent at xxx.net Tue Sep 8 19:34:27 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 19:34:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: relp! References: Message-ID: <35F578B3.488082E4@lineone.net> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Fluffy Candarel wrote: > Last post, sorry, duke I wasn't having a go at you or anyone on this > list so sweet. i always expect people to be having a go at me, i mean i do try my best. i loved the way you said what you did, it was just i didn't quite agree at this point in time. i think the new record is a Pop monster, as indeed i said already. but i'm not a huge fan of a couple of songs, and i think that's fine. it's a great collection of songs, but sometimes that doesn't always make a great album. i'm being pedantic, but so what? was a time when all i wanted to do was run home in the rain and scream about how wonderful x or y record was, but you know i kind of got fed up that no bugger was interested. all they were interested in was repeating what the music press said and blah blah blah, you know, credibility something. these days i'm just a bit more wary maybe. or old, which is probably the real answer. > am I just a wee thing at 17 and don't know how things should be? ha ha! of course you know how things should be, you just don't realise that the way things are changes over time. it's no big deal, it's not a case of sell out or anything, it's just change. don't be afraid of change. if you don't think you're right and everyone else is wrong when you're 17 then you've failed to learn something vital about Pop. ditto if you've forgotten that rule when you get to 32. > Arsebiscuits to that, I think there's just too many people UP themselves well, i've had that 'criticism' all my life, indeed often been beaten up because of it, and you know what? i still don't give a toss what anyone else thinks. now is it just that i'm a big old thing at 32 and don't know how things should be? > BUT I've just thought, if you don't examine your music, you'll be a laxy curious thought. substitute 'life' for 'music'. you know what i've always hated? when someone says (it was always my mum) "you think too much". yeah, right. pointless excercises. keep the faith, the duke -- 'all of our dreams are dying of overdoses' Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tangent at xxx.net Tue Sep 8 19:49:53 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 19:49:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: poetry poetry References: Message-ID: <35F57C51.71263199@lineone.net> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* i got some strange press releases guff in the tangents box today: something about the woman in the peugeot advert, another about yo-yos, an airtours 'youth' holidays brochure, and something that i think some of you lot might be interested in: and i quote: "with the millenium just around the corner, popular poetry publishers Triumph House are giving you the chance to tell them your thoughts and experiences of the last four decades of popular music..." The idea seems to be you send them no more than two poems (max 30 lines each) about Pop and i guess they make an anthology of the best. Well wouldn't it be super if loads of sinister babies wrote loads of poems about how a belle record changed their lives or something and submitted them? maybe we could post them to the list and have another list contest? i dunno... if anyone IS interested, the address for sending poems is as follows: Suzy Walton, Music Through the Years, 1 - 2 Wainman Road, Peterborough, PE2 7BU. Or fax on 01733 230751. Entries to be in by Nov 3rd. get musing, kids. the duke PS the new Swell LP is very fine indeed. -- 'all of our dreams are dying of overdoses' Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From yazansam at xxx.uk Tue Sep 8 17:43:56 1998 From: yazansam at xxx.uk (Yaz) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:43:56 +0200 Subject: Sinister: och aye dearie me. Message-ID: <199809081851.TAA24477@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* ohh, i almost forgot... *---********HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIE*******---* heyhey. with extra stars. yaz x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Tue Sep 8 20:53:07 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 20:53:07 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Poup=E9e_de_cire,_poup=E9e_de_son?= Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19980908205307.2d9f5d36@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* That is the name of the last song yesterday in London. It was written by Serge Gainsbourg, and France Gall won the Eurovision Price with this song a long time ago. Did Belle & Sebastian made any other cover of Gainsbourg songs in the other gigs ? Philippe, back in Strasbourg but still in London +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Tue Sep 8 20:45:32 1998 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 15:45:32 -0400 Subject: Sinister: back by popular demand Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Yum, enjoying a nice bit of basmati rice while reading my emails, trying very carefully not to get any stuck in between the keys. So a few of you were inquiring as to the status of Ahren, crushboy extraordinaire. Well, the story is that he has a girlfriend (poo), however we still flirt like bunnies at work...the other day he helped me carry out a whole load of Levi's jeans and even stayed and helped me fold them, which was quite nice of him since the girls' Levi's area is my domain. I thought about trying my hardest to make him realise that his girlfriend is so completely wrong for him, but then it occurred to me that I have no clue about who his girlfriend is, or why she might be an inadequate companion. And it's not up to me to give some other girl heartbreaks and crying fits and general (although temporary) hatred, he can do that on his own if they break up. But for now, I'll just be the sweetest and best me ever, and hope that he comes around. So...any sassy B+S boys like to meet up before the as-yet-unconfirmed Toronto show? You know, I really am quite charming... truly, jessica, thinking that perhaps this cold spell has gone to her head. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Tue Sep 8 21:46:51 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:46:51 EDT Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister: the kneeling bus Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Matthew wrote: <> Aggghhh! Tell me you didn't really say that! You obvously haven't met the right bus yet. Some of my happiest hours have been spent on top of buses, listening to B&S. It's definitely the best place to listen! With your shirt sleeves rolled up, and your blazer stuffed in your bag, on the way home from one of those last days of the summer term when you've bugger all to do except skive off to the park for a fag, and look through girls' white blouses. Or on a crunchy autumn evening, when the bus clatters under the low branches, sending brown leaves tumbling, and outside, people with ghosts in their mouths go about their mittened business. Not a fan of buses! If I had my way, the next gig would be on a bus. Stuart could drive, of course, and his voice would carry up the driver's little periscope to the top deck, where the band would be set up. All except Stuart David, who'd be in the back seat, scratching 'pish' into to melanine seat back with a set of compasses, and having a sly cigarette. I imagine. The best buses, needless to say, are in Glasgow. The wheezy orange ones that growl like old dockers all the way up to Maryhill. The second best are the old routemasters in London, with their tartan seats, worn shiny from a million bums, their clang clang bells, and their tourist culling open platforms. Riding on city buses is sad? Well darlin, some of us are only lucid when we're riding buses. love, seb actually Paris ones are good too, they have little open air balconies at the back for us smokers to lean on and look dead hard in the winter. But they're vertically challenged, to the tune of one deck, as I believe most foreign buses are. Tsk. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blink at xxx.net Tue Sep 8 21:52:41 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 16:52:41 -0400 Subject: Sinister: gotta make this quick oh man Message-ID: <35F59919.26F1@inexpress.net> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Y'all, (well those in Toronto)so canadian eyes only there is a teeny tenny chance i might get to go see them (Belle and Sebastian,duh duh duh) in Torontoso i have some questions,in a neat,point format. When exactly is the date? Is it at the Opera House? That's usually all ages isn't it? Is the show all ages? how does buying tickets work with this..is it like a ticketmaster i could call and if not could i sweetly send one of youse some cash and could you buy them for me? If there's even a teeny chance i can go,i will have to beat myself with sac of rusty nails if i can't go because of no ticket. ack! i'm sure there's somethig i meant to say but i can't write now cause of physics physics and more of it... yes yes yes genevieve xoxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SpaceboyUK at xxx.com Tue Sep 8 21:58:39 1998 From: SpaceboyUK at xxx.com (SpaceboyUK at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:58:39 EDT Subject: Sinister: The Boy With The Questions About 'Arab Strap' Message-ID: <63e38fdd.35f59a7f@aol.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Well well there are a few thing i'd like to discuss. any many questions. so that'd be goo,if i could a few at least answered. SUBJECT 1- US & UK LP DIFFERENCES: Ok the album is lovely!! but where is the legendary B&S story inside the case? i find none. is there on eon the UK CD? are there any differences in the UK & US versions of the CD? SUBJECT 2- BWTAS SONGS: I must object to whoever said bagpipe is not good on pop songs,because "sleep the clock around" is the most lovely song i have heard. And i also like how isobel sings and stuart.d sings. the only songs that are not GREAT but are still good are "Chickfactor" and...well that's it. it's just too....i dont know,but ok. the album is great. SUBJECT 3- THE REVIEWS THE REVIEWS THAT RATED THIS ALBUM "NOT SO GOOD" WERE WRONG !!!!!!! that's all on that subject. everyone enjoy the album!!!!!! -a.james "the boy with the smile and the new b&s cd" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From achan at xxx.com Tue Sep 8 23:07:59 1998 From: achan at xxx.com (Arthur Chan) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:07:59 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Arab Strap Review Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From TFertig3 at xxx.com Tue Sep 8 23:10:07 1998 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:10:07 EDT Subject: Sinister: jeepster-news: Belle & Sebastian - USA Confirmed Dates and new ... Message-ID: <9d7aee42.35f5ab3f@aol.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Just a quick question, will B&S play in NY on November 2 as well? Is it just not confirmed yet? It make all the difference for me.. Secondly, after listening to the new album some more, I still think it's not as good as the other fantastic things they've done, but it is quite excellent. After all the hype about Seymour Stein, I must disappointed to realize it is my least favorite song on the album, along with Chickfactor. Everything else (besides the Rollercoaster Ride which is okay) is wonderful! Sounds like 50's and 60's sometimes. And at the beginning of A Summer Wasting Stuart sounds exactly like Donovan, but then he sounds like him quite a lot. I miss the little stories that go in the sleeve; they make me happy. Hmm, that's my review. Oh, and Ease Your Feet in the Sea is my favorite. Bye! Tami +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Tue Sep 8 13:55:05 1998 From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (Michael Jones) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 05:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Pop Group Into Rock Venue Won't Go Message-ID: <19980908125505.23826.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Being a dismally contrary sort, I feel the need a strike a sour note amid all the joyous list kerfuffle follow last night's Shepherd's Bush hoedown (yes, I know I was the one telling you all to stop whining, even when you really weren't, following the Leeds and Nottingham shows). It was just too damn big. They play quietly - it's part of the appeal. The Empire demanded noise they couldn't and wouldn't provide. And as these things get bigger, the experience is somehow diluted (God forbid they ever play a festival) and, in this case, poisoned by, well, quite a large number of fuckers, basically. I'm not suggesting for a moment that the B&S live extravaganza be restricted to a small coterie of listfolk and their ilk at venues you couldn't swing a cat in. Oh no. But perhaps a short residency at a medium-sized theatre would be a reasonable solution in the case of the capital. The band might enjoy that. Perhaps I'm being financially naive... (More radical alternative: don't play London at all... it wasn't cheap to travel to West Yorkshire granted, but the beer's not as expensive...) Musically, I thought it edged Nottingham. I was pretty choked during "Strap" too. And finishing with the France Gall song was perfection. To be honest, all this disgruntled muttering - it's only the post-gig comedown talking, or the realisation that I'll never see anything as good as Leeds again in my life... Unless Scritti Politti tour again. Mike. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rodbegbie at xxx.com Tue Sep 8 09:54:56 1998 From: rodbegbie at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 01:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19980908085456.8504.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* 'lo Chaps! Well, that was scary. Walking into a pub in London, not knowing what any of the people you're about to meet look like, but having them recognise you! (The Helen Love T-shirt, y'see. Works every time!) Luckily, the predicted Begbie/Tag punch-up failed to materialise, so I was able to enjoy a drink with a load of people with alarmingly familiar names. To everyone I blethered to: I love you lots. Gig was very good - Audience were a bit standy-still and not quite boogieing enough - and I've never heard such a large group of people go "Shhhhh!" before - but the band were tops. Hand-Clappers of the world, unite! See ya next time, pop-chums! Rod. == -- Rod Begbie -- rod at begbie.com -- http://www.begbie.com -- Please ignore the piece-of-crap advertisment that follows _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Wed Sep 9 00:15:44 1998 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 01:15:44 +0200 Subject: Sinister: New cd Message-ID: <35F5BAA0.2E14DC21@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hi , today TBWTAS exit in Italy and i bought it this morning. My impression: you must immagine to hear "sleep the clock around" when you fly with deltaplane,watching the fields that run away. That's it for me. Marco#7. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TopBanana1 at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 00:11:43 1998 From: TopBanana1 at xxx.com (TopBanana1 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 19:11:43 EDT Subject: Sinister: tour dates Message-ID: <371aa845.35f5b9af@aol.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* hey can someone please send me a list of B & S tour dates topbanana1 at aol.com thanks shirley +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Tue Sep 8 16:37:02 1998 From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (Michael Jones) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 08:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Fwd: Pop Group Into Rock Venue Won't Go Message-ID: <19980908153702.29776.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com> I feel a bit stupid re-sending a message to the list, but, like Roddddd's, it seems to have disappeared into a Yahoo black-hole. Hopelessly out-of-date now of course - you've all moved on to space-jazz and "Poldark", no doubt... note: forwarded msg attached. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? 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From: Michael Jones Subject: Pop Group Into Rock Venue Won't Go Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 05:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Size: 1959 URL: From TopBanana1 at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 02:09:48 1998 From: TopBanana1 at xxx.com (TopBanana1 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 21:09:48 EDT Subject: Sinister: nyc b & s concert Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* hello i wanna go to the nyc b & s show on nov 1. two problems....... 1) my parents will only let me go if i go with them, you think its ok? liek will there be like people smoking pot infront of my parents and then my parents wont let me go to a concert for the rest of my life? 2) its 16+, im 15.........should i go running around for a fake id even though i look 17, 18 anyway, and are they gonna bother asking for ID? especially since im with my parents? thanks especially luke love shirley +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erinlew at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 04:10:10 1998 From: erinlew at xxx.com (Erin Lewis) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 20:10:10 PDT Subject: Sinister: I HATE LABOR DAY! Message-ID: <19980909031015.6149.qmail@hotmail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* I am so mad, mad, mad that I could not purchase the new album today. None of the seven major record stores in Fresno CA (e.g. Tower, the Wherehouse, Borders, BestBuy, etc.) got their shipments of the new album in, thanks to Labor Day weekend, no doubt. David and Katrina, could you please kindly kick some Matador butt? I feel so betrayed, as IF Matador didn't know the holiday would screw up the mail system. Harumph. Love all around otherwise, Miss Erin P.S. David, you look exactly as I pictured you. Your nose is swell. :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erinlew at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 04:11:09 1998 From: erinlew at xxx.com (Erin Lewis) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 20:11:09 PDT Subject: Sinister: I HATE LABOR DAY! Message-ID: <19980909031111.10261.qmail@hotmail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* I am so mad, mad, mad that I could not purchase the new album today. None of the seven major record stores in Fresno CA (e.g. Tower, the Wherehouse, Borders, BestBuy, etc.) got their shipments of the new album in, thanks to Labor Day weekend, no doubt. David and Katrina, could you please kindly kick some Matador butt? I feel so betrayed, as IF Matador didn't know the holiday would screw up the mail system. One day earlier, kids. Harumph. Love all around otherwise, Miss Erin P.S. David, you look exactly as I pictured you. Your nose is swell. :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snekyscp at xxx.net Wed Sep 9 05:33:53 1998 From: snekyscp at xxx.net (snekyscp at xxx.net) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 21:33:53 -0700 Subject: Sinister: us dates Message-ID: <35F60531.EAC15B5A@prodigy.net> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* does anyone know if the group will play the west coast (esp calif)? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 05:29:12 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (brier at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 21:29:12 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Turning Tables Round in M&S Message-ID: <00e301bddbaa$66de2640$569fcdcf@brier> Hi Sinister; Once and for all, can ANYONE more fluent in Brittish tell me what Stuart could have possibly meant when he sang "now I spend my days turning tables round"??? I know what Marks & Spencer is, but what tables and how turning? Just got Boy and am on 2nd listen. No song has yet grabbed my attention like "Get Me Away From Here..." or "Seeing Other People"... but then again my favorite of all, "The State.." didn't grab me till listen #3. All will be well I'm sure. Any others from California who want to do a little pre-planning for an LA area gig? (I'm in Santa Barbara.) I wonder where (and IF) they'll play here. Ooohh, the new T shirts are divine. Katrina, any chance of the IYFS one being in any color other than black soon? I can't stand myself in black T shirts (or any clothes) despite what Morrissey said. I guess it just makes me feel too.... too.... sinister. And Jessica, I'd love to be your B&S crush but California is too far. Can I have West Coast Status, though? Love, Brier -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brier at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 05:49:47 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (brier at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 21:49:47 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Is it wicked? Message-ID: <010e01bddbad$47055980$569fcdcf@brier> So she's talking about us when she says "you've wasted many hours / talking endlessly to anyone that's there"? P.S. 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URL: From mike at xxx.uk Wed Sep 9 07:52:57 1998 From: mike at xxx.uk (Mike Newman) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 07:52:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Hidden B&S Zombies Tribute In-Reply-To: <012401bddbb2$a1e5de60$569fcdcf@brier> Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > Of course! Now I figgered it out. The opening of "Simple Things" > sounds exactly like it wants to launch into "She's Not There" by the > Zombies. If you don't believe me, just listen to it (She's Not > There, that is). Anyone who doesn't agree is not a zombie and > therefore thoroughly Not There. Reporting back, Brier OK, I'd promised myself I wasn't going to get into this "X sounds like Y" business, but I have to say that the weird organ-y bit in the title track sounds uncannily like that novelty song (maybe called "Tweet Tweet") by the Rocking Berries (probably, nay hopefully unknown outside the UK). Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit the TRAUMATONE/Great Northern Electrics/Bacchanalian Revel homepage: http://www.geocities.com/~greatnorthern/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JohnJ at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 10:19:24 1998 From: JohnJ at xxx.com (John Johnston) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 10:19:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Rememberence of things past Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Gang I forgot to add a delicious moment from Monday's gig to my previous list. It was Stuart's supremely arch delivery of the line "what do you make of the cool set in London" from the end of the TBWTAS. The last word was very much his. I love the TBWTAS. Just when you think that it can't get any better, Sarah joins in on the recorder and it does! Went to see Buddy last night at the theatre. My flatmate's friend played the drummer in the Crickets. It was great fun ("Buddy Brilliant" as the reviewer must have written in his sleep) but it set me wondering. What will the big show be in 30 yrs time. Will it be "The Stone Roses Story"; the epic tale about a group who wanted to play their music, their way...."There's no such thing as Indie-Dance, Boy!!", the triumphant music in a short span of time before their tragic disappearance, up their own arses. I also used to wonder whether the town hall in Oxford would still have tea dances in 40 years time. Will it be Acid House afternoons? But that'll be just the same as first time around; loads of people moving in a jerky, unstable manner and everyone on pills. Plus ca change... xx JJ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Wed Sep 9 10:22:28 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 10:22:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Concert Roddington Shenanigans Message-ID: <004101bddbd3$5d411290$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* >I don't want to jump to conclusions or anything but at the after show thing at >Brighton Beach in leeds, i was getting all the 'stars' autographs when this >strange little fella go my TOTP POP autographs book and signed what looks to >be Keith Watson. Is that keith off of this list? > >esteban Haha! Sorry about that, I really couldn't resist it, it was just I was in the right place at the right time... I was a bit pissed up on a clear liquid called booze. I thought - hey this'll be a laugh, I kind of thought afterwards it'd be quite funny if the person was on the list. However then thought oh dear, I hope I haven't spoilt your big pile of autographs. Let me know if it pissed you off. Also frankly given the daft scribble that I did I'm surprised it looks like my name at all, it doesn't look much like my name at the best of times. Was absolutely lovely to meet everyone at the concerts, and can I just say Vicky I'm disappointed not to have met you too, hopefully I'll get a chance some other time, terrible really, it was so busy though and I didn't know what you looked like. Everyone I met was really cool, and there were plenty of them. It's so much better meeting people in person than via email as you get such a better impression of what they're like rather than essentially what comes out as daft little soundbites via email. I hope everyone enjoyed the concerts as much as I did. The whole thing seems like one big blur mind you, just cause it went so fast. All great fun though, seen loads of places I've never been to before too. Apologies to David, Katrina and all the other people around on Monday night for my drunken behaviour, I paid for it on the way back to Edinburgh on the train. I tried to go to sleep in a flowerbed that night. That's what you get for being a drunken twat. Hope everyone in the US and Europe's all keyed up to see the band soon and I hope you all enjoy it as much as we did. Cheers, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koogydelbbog at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 11:24:36 1998 From: koogydelbbog at xxx.com (andrew dean) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:24:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: london Message-ID: <19980909102436.4126.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* ok, you've read enough about this already no doubt so i'll keep this short: lows: the wait, the crush, the heat waiting for 30 minutes for a taxi at hemel station at 1:30 in the morning turning up at 3 o'clock at the poetry cafe the day after to find no-one else there... highs: isobel shaking her head and frowning during the finale 'that was pish' shouted from the audience after the looper song. must've been someone from the list. anyone care to own up? stuart m's admittance that it was, maybe, 'ill-advised' the bass during the aforementioned looper song, played by tony the manager the pub beforehand and not being able to walk 5 ft without bumping into someone you knew presents from thailand 8) isobel's little disclaimer before the finale - 'i've got a frog in my throat' - i'm sure france gall was in a similar position once upon a time... 8) but yeah, too many people there. i think back to edinburgh and how we stood almost within touching distance of the band and how impossible that'd be now a mere 18 months later... new york even, exactly a year prior to the london gig, a medium sized venue which still had space to move around in it... new lp is nice. production is well done i thought. nice to be able to hear studio versions of live favourites with all the delicacies intact. yeah, ok, with b&s i often prefer session versions of things cos they have more life but, hey, i have those as well... andy == andrew dean (koogydelbbog at yahoo.com) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From padraic_fresheire at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 11:48:25 1998 From: padraic_fresheire at xxx.com (padraic doorey) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:48:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: lollipop, lollipop... Message-ID: <19980909104825.7062.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* answer me this oh fellows: is it france gall or is it frances gall (from france)? yours, [the pedantic] lady penelope. *mwah* ************* PS - my hands have recovered, thank you for your concerns, mark & travis. PPS - is anyone seeing cornelius tonight at the astoria? _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From padraic_fresheire at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 12:02:40 1998 From: padraic_fresheire at xxx.com (padraic doorey) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 04:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: chupa chup, chupa chup... Message-ID: <19980909110240.23215.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* wow! thanks julien. you were quick off the mark! lady p (sans tiara) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Sep 9 10:35:48 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:35:48 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Ask David Bailey or Richard Harris Message-ID: <01bddbd5$39e3f680$LocalHost@itjfvkli> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Let's hear from Mr. Conneely's PJ MIller doll: What a crap album! I *knew* it was going to be like that! If that's a rollercoaster ride, I'll stick to a quick trot along the sands on a mangey donkey. Sleep the Clock Around? I very nearly did when this limp-wristed ditty put me into a deep coma. The Boy With The Arab Strap? The boy with Queen's Greatest Hits, more like, becasue that song also sounds just like "You're My Best Friend", written by neither Freddie nor Brian. What a load of pish. It would have been *so* much better as twelve free flexi discs given away with "There's a Little Bear" fanzine. Sell out bastards! How sad. And the gigs were shit too. I *knew* it was going to be too hot, that's why I didn't go. Only joking, of course. I think it's a super album, just as it is. I listened to it on a decent pair of headphones (people always say "decent pair of headphones" as if you've got to be a wanker to have crap ones. Why? One-upmanship again. I've got nice headphones, but the world's pishiest stereo) yesterday, and there are lots of sounds that probably shouldn't be there, like counting and talking, so that should come as a bit of a relief to those who don't like the apparently posh production. I don't know if anyone has already pointed this out (still haven't read Cock Fun) but "Is the Wicker Man Scared?" seems to quote a keyboard line from Felt at the end. It took me ages to identify it, so I was quite excited when I noticed that the song contains the words "by the river". Surely no coincidence when the Felt song is called "She Lives By the River". A few days later I realised that song is not called "She Lives By The River", it is called "She Lives By The Castle". I also live by the castle, if anyone would like to see a photo of the street leading up to the castle, look at http://www.diariovasco.com , under the headline "Hondarribia fue una fiesta". It's not a very exciting picture, but gives some idea of the general level of lunacy in the air. But I digress. The song "A Summer Wasting" - I think it sounds a bit like The June Brides, but I can't remember very well. We bought some fertilised soil for the house plants and it smells terrible. I'm sure it's fertilised with dogshit. love to all, Bobby Chariot "Dream one, you had a whole lot of fun with a comedian" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lapis at xxx.edu Wed Sep 9 14:10:35 1998 From: lapis at xxx.edu (dave cohen) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 09:10:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: lollipop, lollipop...non! baby pop! Message-ID: <199809091310.JAA03282@pobox.upenn.edu> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > > *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > > answer me this oh fellows: > > is it france gall or is it frances gall (from france)? > > yours, > > > [the pedantic] lady penelope. c'est france gall, et elle est belle! pick up any compilation of her pre-1968 singles (you can also hear Heavenly cover another great song she did-- nous ne sommes pas des anges, on Operation Heavenly) very bouncy popfrancais (but filling!) picked up the album he did, --the lapis with the arab strap +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Wed Sep 9 12:53:49 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 12:53:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Boy With The Questions About 'Arab Strap' References: <63e38fdd.35f59a7f@aol.com> Message-ID: <35F66C4D.DB54E270@jeepster.co.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* SpaceboyUK at aol.com wrote: > > SUBJECT 1- US & UK LP DIFFERENCES: > > Ok the album is lovely!! but where is the legendary B&S story > inside the case? i find none. is there on eon the UK CD? > are there any differences in the UK & US versions of the CD? nope, except the addition of a little jeepster logo and matador logo on the US copy. the real difference comes in the japanese version which does have text on the inside, but it's all in japanese and i don't know whether this is a story or a biography. if anyone on this list has a copy, is japanese, can translate fluently and has the time. you know we'd be very grateful if you could ;) david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Wed Sep 9 12:58:46 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 12:58:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Turning Tables Round in M&S References: <00e301bddbaa$66de2640$569fcdcf@brier> Message-ID: <35F66D76.30597869@jeepster.co.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* > brier at pipeline.com wrote: > Ooohh, the new T shirts are divine. Katrina, any chance of the IYFS > one being in any color other than black soon? I can't stand myself in > black T shirts (or any clothes) despite what Morrissey said. I guess > it just makes me feel too.... too.... sinister. we tried the sinister in white, but decided we make too many white shirts, plus the black looked better. the other things we decided were: 1- it's better to have choice in design rather than have one shirt in three colours 2- it's better to have shirts in nice packaging than without 3- it's nice to keep them as cheap as possible we hope you like the choices we made and all the shirts and stuff. i'm gonna put all the stow ones on-line, but we'll receive them in a few weeks, so your order may take a while if you want one :) david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Wed Sep 9 15:38:04 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 15:38:04 Subject: Sinister: The Boy With The Questions About 'Arab Strap' Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19980909153804.3dd7f692@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* David, the Boy With The Bucket, wrote >the real difference comes in the japanese version which does have text >on the inside, but it's all in japanese and i don't know whether this is >a story or a biography. > >if anyone on this list has a copy, is japanese, can translate fluently >and has the time. you know we'd be very grateful if you could ;) > I don't know what the kanji for "Isobel" looks like, but I am sure that it is the most beautiful one. Philippe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 14:36:47 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 09:36:47 EDT Subject: Sinister: All around my hat Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Folk+Rock. How did Steeleye Span get it so very wrong?Hmm. Giles wrote: <> Bang on! I think that's why they're so very special. For most bands, being 'real' means pretending never to have read a book, making sure everyone knows just how fiercely heterosexual you are and writing tawdry, 3 chord songs about drinking a lot, or writing love songs in the style of someone who's never known anything but lust. Belle and Sebastian don't seem to put anything on, they don't have big rock star egos- and the line between audience, friends and band members seems very fine indeed- hence, possibly the ever increasing number of band members. The band seem as happy on stage as they would making a cup of tea. << I find B&S to be an inspirational group of people, especially Stuart David's Ink Polaroids...and the music is good too.>> And they make me want to get off my arse and do things- write reviews (i'm getting on with it!), take photos, write plays, form a band. Now if all the new fans feel the same...it'll be an artistic revolution! And then Giles ends with a Richard Dawkins quote! I like you a lot already-I remember Dawkins from my theology days-I think it was him that called creationism 'intellectual excrement of the first order'. What a quote. What a god. Anyway, besides mopping up various old threads, this post had a point. Yeah! I wish to complain! Mark wrote: <> Um, I think I was one of the ones saying that. But we were only joking. I don't think anyone dreamed back then that B&S would *really* make it, well, I didn't, and I still keep expecting to wake up from this fabulous dream. Anyway, we didn't mean it in a snobby way, it was more a way of expressing the incredible excitment, and atmosphere that the band generate live-each of their 'gigs' feels like the 'classic gigs of all time' that the idiots in Mojo go on about. And Belle and Sebastian demand reverence- (and irreverence of course, just look at the list.) But at least the 'London wankers' at Union Chapel kept their bloody mouths shut, and didn't heckle the band. Anyway, sorry for that half arselicking, half flaming post. In future I shall stick to writing about buses. (experts among you will have noticed that I said Maryhill, last time when I meant Hillhead. wrists slapped.) seb, (who thinks a short residency is nearly as good an idea as a floating venue, but not as good as playing the top deck of a southdown bus) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kcooke at xxx.uk Wed Sep 9 13:37:00 1998 From: kcooke at xxx.uk (Kevan Cooke) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:37:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Poor Honey / Shepherds Bush Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Honey's computer must be creaking under the weight of messages, what with the album release AND the gigs for everyone to talk about, so I'll try to keep this fairly short... I'd like to think that the rainbow over Basingstoke first thing on Monday morning was directly above the record shop where they were playing TBWTAS. Not enough time to learn all the words by the evening, so I spent the day learning the handclaps instead. Met lots of listees, but didn't spend nearly enough time chatting with you all. Gig highlights: "Shhhhhhh" and "That was ill advised" Special thanks to John for his hospitality and floor space, and also to Vicky and Rod for the kind words that they have posted to the list since the gig. Flattery will get you everywhere. Kevan The Fat Slug +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bacmann at xxx.fr Wed Sep 9 14:45:48 1998 From: bacmann at xxx.fr (Aurore) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 15:45:48 +0200 (DST) Subject: Sinister: A century of strippers Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Those of you who were at the gig in Leeds will know what I'm talking about - maybe someone else from the list has mentioned the rearranged lines of "A century of fakers" , but I was flooded in sinister-digests which I couldn't read in their totality. It might be getting a bit late for another gig-review, I might say things that have already been said, but my friend Myles told me I should post something to the list so there you go. I should have written that ages ago, but work didn't allow me to. Those of you who served a few years at the Edinburgh observatory (am I thinking of anyone in particular? Paul?) might know about the horror of writing observing proposals. There were a few of us (basically Stephane, Myles and myself) to have come from Frogland especially for the Belle and Sebastian gig. We met Stephane at the Duchess of York, 2 hours after we'd said we would. Blame British Midland for the delay that made us miss the bus, and the (crap) Leeds Airport bus services - one bus to the town centre every 2 hours. So we had to have a pint at the airport to kill time while waiting for the bus. How dreadful. The Duchess is somewhat different from what I'd expected, and I didn't feel like staying there a long time. And luckily, Stephane spotted us, because we'd only briefly met before and I wasn't sure to recognise him if he wasn't wearing his B&S T-shirt (and he wasn't). Anyway, I will pass on the not-so-exciting details of the afternoon to go directly to the pre-gig meet-up at the Whitelocks pub. We arrived pretty early and kept waving a Belle and Sebastian badge at each new person we saw - alas, in vain! But we did look stupid alright. So we walked outside and studied the faces of the various young people enjoying their well-deserved Friday night pint(s). I suppose some people must look more Belle&Sebastian than others since it didn't take us long to spot them, all smiles, chatting in front of their drinks. Looking back, I find it very strange that the first group of people I walked up to and said "I'm looking for people out of the B&S mailing list" actually said "Well that's us". Weirder still was to hear their names and remember seeing them on the list. Wow, Nick Dastoor really *does* exist. Well it was great meeting you all - sorry about not having been very social and gone to the club, but I have to say the after-gig hang-out had its moments and nice surprises, too (which I'll tell only if you ask nicely - not that it's that interesting anyway). I was especially pleased to meet Pam Berry (hello Pam!) again. Now that was a very nice surprise. WAITING FOR THE DOORS TO OPEN: of course we wanted to choose our seats near the front, so we started waiting in front of the venue fairly early. There, we met other Frenchies who'd come to see Eliott Smith without tickets and who were desperately looking for some. One of them went to wander the streets to pursue his quest, and came back ten minutes later smiling like a Cheshire cat. "I haven't got tickets" he said "but we're seeing the concert anyway". He explained "I was asking random passers-by if they had any spare tickets, when this bloke comes up to me and says: I think I can do something for you. I'm the singer of the band and I can put you on the guest-list". THE GIG: I won't comment on Eliott Smith who I didn't know at all before the gig (and indeed the fellow sitting next to me would make a much better description in his broad Yorkshire accent) except that he's a bloody good guitarist. Then Belle & Sebastian came onstage for an hour of pure brillance. The sound was very good, not too loud (I wasn't deaf for 3 days afterwards. These details turn out to be important when you're an ageing popkid like me), the voice came out very soft and clear. I don't have the set-list, but I remember they played, among others and in no particular order: the boy with the arab strap is it wicked not to care judy and the dream of horses get me away I'm dying spaceboy dream I don't love anyone a century of fakers beautiful seeing other people like dylan in the movies oops, I may get a few of those wrong. The songs didn't sound too dissimilar from the LP versions, as far as I can remember, which is not a bad thing, as you all know how good the songs sound on the records. Anyway, I could go on and on about how good they were that night. There were some lovely moments when Stuart forgot the lyrics, and Isobel and Sarah could not play their recorders properly because they were giggling too much. An honourable mention goes to the guy at the front who kept shouting at the band and saying he wanted to dance, and to the both Stuarts for their witty remarks and improvised lyrics concerning that event. A criticism? Yes, the gig was too short :) It was too good to stop after just one hour. But the hour was so charming that you can't really be angry about that. On the whole, it was great. I don't regret a single penny that I've spent going over to Leeds from Paris (and it must have cost me 180-190 quid!) to see Belle & Sebastian. I'll just breathe a word about the after-gig (not the one at the night-club, as we were tired and lazy and hung out outside the venue for quite some time afterwards). Then this bloke comes up with his tape-recorder and says he's writing an article about how mad B&S fans are (he didn't quite put it like this, and said something more like "I'd like to interview people who'd come from far away for the gig") and I ask if it's for a fanzine and he says it's for the Melody Maker... So we went on raving about how good B&S are. But, ok, enough of that. sorry for writing so much, and a special hello to all those I met at the Whitelocks, Aurore ps: Another honourable mention goes to the bathroom of the B&B we were staying at: the walls were painted in a sky-blue fresco representing nude nymphs and Greek Gods. On the floor was a stuffed duck. And in front of the entrance door stood two carved stones in the shape of a lion shagging a sheep (we thought)... ---------------------------------------------------- MUMBLY - http://www.mygale.org/00/aurore/emumbly.htm ---------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Scott_Turner at xxx.COM Wed Sep 9 14:49:37 1998 From: Scott_Turner at xxx.COM (Scott Turner) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 09:49:37 -0400 Subject: Sinister:TBWTAS listen with real and ink polaroids Message-ID: <8525667A.004A2BFF.00@JHMAIL.JH.COM> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* After sending death threats every thirty minutes to HMV-philly who kept saying- "it should come in any time now", I hopped the bus down to the scuzzy slimy south street and bought a copy at Tower Records. Went home with my girlfriend, Maki, to lovely west philly, both starving because we have no money until the 15th, stole some food and beer from our housemates, ate like ravenous kids, and went to the bedroom. Threw in the boy with the arab strap, smacked the cd player a couple of times to get it to work, cranked it up, and ahhhhhhhhhh..... we broke out our 60's polaroid land cameras and documented the listen with black and white polaroids in professional photographic lighting. Everything got really trippy, the music seeped into the glowing corners of my "mood disorder" and by the end of the album we were both lying on carpet, the music seeping into everything, polaroids and their goopy negatives lying everywhere- Maki's cheek was sleeping on my arm and I was staring at the at the ceiling fan but only seeing orange stars and blue rivers jostling for position on my spine. .scott +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Arigreen23 at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 15:11:11 1998 From: Arigreen23 at xxx.com (Arigreen23 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 10:11:11 EDT Subject: Sinister: hello everyone...and so on. Message-ID: <24305cb4.35f68c7f@aol.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* hey there! my name's ari, i just joined the list...i got into B & S reletively recently...first bought Lazy Line Painter Jane, the "3...6..9..." then Sinister and just last night TBWTAS...and I love it of course. I actually first heard about the band thru reading interviews with Ben Folds, where they asked him what he was listening to...any other BFF fans on the list? Anyway, just wanted to introduce myself...looking forward to (hopefully) seeing them in Philly in October... ari +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Wed Sep 9 14:50:19 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 14:50:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: help! list under strain Message-ID: <35F6879B.C117CFF6@jeepster.co.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* well, it probably isn't but i don't think we're not helping in any way at the moment. so we should try and show a bit more discipline (yes, this even includes my lazy way of replying to messages). so although it's in the list FAQ, i'd like to take a moment to remind people of what they can do to help. 1- try and compile all your answers into one message 2- reply straight to the person who sent it and not the list if it's not really relevant to the list 3- try to stay on topic and not waste messages by sending messages with just a couple of useless words in them like, 'thanks for that' or 'i agree'. 4- be humurous - i know there are different interpretations of the word humour, but people forgive a lot of bad mails if they laugh VERY loudly. 5- don't re-quote whole messages, just a line is fine as long as it's in context still. anyhow, there you go, that may help get rid of a few messages or at least make them a little more relevant to the wider audience. a few things before i go, thanks paul for all your work, it's great to see you've been credited on the sleeve (did anyone else notice?), cheers for the work on the digests, which is causing hiccups but helping to make them nicer. i'm going to try and find a moment to create a page for newbies to b&s on the official site - so if you're a newbie, please be patient and we'll try and answer all your questions in time. cheers david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From m.wimbury at xxx.uk Wed Sep 9 15:29:24 1998 From: m.wimbury at xxx.uk (MATTHEW WIMBURY) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 15:29:24 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Loads of stuff Message-ID: <199809091429.PAA00820@unixb.lancs.ac.uk> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Right, few loose ends to tie up and replies to other posts today... 1) To the person who mailed me (or was it the list, i can't remember....?) about new Beautiful South stuff, there's a single called Perfect 10 out here on, I think, 21st September, with an album, provisionally titled Quench, out on October 12th. The single sounds pretty good with the trademark great lyrics still present... 2) I'm glad to see other people noticed similarities left right and centre re: songs on the new B+S album. I think I mentioned all the ones I found apart from Simple Things, as well as sounding like Stupid Girl, it also sounds like Like Dylan in the movies. And the first time I heard it I thought Dirty Dream bore a slight resemblance to Itchycoo Park by the Faces too though since then I have been at a loss as to why i noticed this! 3) There isn't much difference between the Looper and B+S Spaceboy Dream songs is there? If any... 4) I was so honoured to get a direct reply to my post by Mr Kitchen, and in reply I'd like to say the divine comedy has been out for a while now, and Hole are, well, pretty toss really, though I fully take your point about the boycotting of them and the chart position. I'd like to say though that the band has always seemed to have, though may not have had, a sod the charts, the industry and the press attitude, one which I wholeheartedly enjoyed to be honest. I feel that any anti B+S attitude present in any of the above are just a reaction. And hey, Steven Wells is an utter twat of the highest order anyway. I guess I'd love to see B+S get a decent chart position but anyway it'll be the likes of stuff like the All Saints album which hangs around for years stopping them doing it as much as Mansun etc. 5) I disagree with whoever said that there seems to be a general agreement on which songs are best on the new album, though if this were true I would agree it's a bad thing. I think I've seen people mention most of the songs as their fave so far. The highlight of this was when someone said Ease Your Feet In the sea, probably my least fave at the mo, was their fave, so I dont think we're all in agreement, and everything's still fine :) 6) My current fave is still sleep the clock around, but I dont dislike any and theyre all growing on me with every listen, especially at the moment Seymour Stein and Chickfactor. Just The Rollercoaster Ride is a bit long. 7) Would anyone be so kind as to copy for me (i could send tapes or exchange something or whatever) some stuff by elliott smith, some stuff by Tindersticks most of which ive heard but dont own, and the snow patrol album songs for polarbears. 8) Finally (phew), unreleased songs like London...., Loneliness of a middle distance runner and Hurley's Having dreams...has anyone got these or likely to have these on tape at all? I've now heard/got some other unreleased stuff but not the above.... Matt. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From esincoff at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 15:38:50 1998 From: esincoff at xxx.com (Ethan Sincoff) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 10:38:50 -0400 Subject: Sinister: it's ethan's birthday!!!! Message-ID: <35F692F9.F5D86164@icon.com> *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Hi sinister fans Just wanted you to know that it is my BIRTHDAY today!!!!!! Howsa bout a transatlantic HAPPYBDAY to MOI!!! later, :-) ethan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucy.munro at xxx.uk Wed Sep 9 20:58:46 1998 From: lucy.munro at xxx.uk (Lucy Munro) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 15:58:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Lunnon tahn Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* London? Well, I *did* enjoy it - it was certainly the best I've *heard* them, but it's a bit odd going to a comparatively big venue when you've got used to seeing bands play in grubby little back rooms. I've only ever seen B&S in small places or churches before. Oh, and a shop... A little shakey at the start, especially as portions of the crowd seemed a little pissed (or indeed pished) off, to say the least. Sadly, as I was busy talking to some friends I hadn't seen for a couple of months I didn't even realise that they'd been so long. Though if I'd had an early train to catch I'd have been cross - a friend had to leave after 5 songs. Had the same thing happen to me at a Shack gig at the Jazz cafe a couple of years ago when I was living in Cambridge & distinctly remember stomping past Martin Rossiter on the way out, and him looking really taken aback, as if he thought I was scowling at him. But B&S really came together about a third of the way through, & they sounded far less shambolic than any other time I've seen them - harmonies actually coordinating rather than wavering. I kind of thought about going to the front, but I didn't have the sheer blind reckless courage - made do with standing on tip-toe and just about seeing the top of Stuarts Murdoch and David's heads from time to time. Until the end when it cleared out a little & I got a glimpse of Stuart M.'s Felt t-shirt. Honey informs me that Mick Cooke was wearing a kilt, but I have no way of knowing whether this is true. Did anyone else see the boys on the balcony air drumming? I had a bit of nightmare getting home. Had to wait ages for the Hammersmith & City tube at Shepherds Bush & then it stopped at Edgware Road and an announcement said there wouldn't be another train for 20 minutes or something. So I decided to get the 27 bus to Chalk Farm instead of waiting for the tube, as the last trains go from Baker St to Finchley Road go at about 12:40, if not earlier. Kind of appropriate to ride home on a bus, now I stop to think about it. My friend Ben saw me at Edgware Road (we'd lost him in the venue - he was off talking to friends near the back), and I didn't see him. I don't think I actually walked past him, but it was pretty near. I've told him it wasn't my fault, I was stressed. He says he was testing my powers of observation and I failed. Bah! Sorry not to have introduced myself to anyone in the pub - I got there late, & had to try and find the man with my ticket before he got tempted to sell it to a tout (apparantly they were selling them for 35 quid). And then it took me 20 minutes to get served at the bar - I really should have got the hang of it by now, but no. Oh, this is far too long and dull... Lucy ---------------------- Lucy Munro lucy.munro at kcl.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rbegbi at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 15:38:47 1998 From: rbegbi at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 10:38:47 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Everyone else is doing it... Message-ID: *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* Not much point doing a big review of TBWTAS (pronounced Tibwytas), but after listening to it all of last night, and all of today (which made it a bit scary, because I don't know if there's anyone looking over my shoulder trying to work out what some French cartoon series has to do with the company's corporate image), it's occured to me that my three immediately favourite songs (CF, ASBD and IIWNTC) are all written by persons other than Mr Murdoch. Woo! Has the man lost his touch? Or will I just have three different favourite songs tomorrow? Time will tell. I'm annoyed that no journos approached me in order to do a feature on B&S fans. I would have gone off at bizarre angles that would have made Tim's "Pinteresque" comment seem like a decidedly normal thing to say. Do you think they would have bought a comparison between B&S and Hanson? Or perhaps a "I only came here because I liked that 'Looper' single. They were shite." style rant? And how come TicketMaster.com has tickets for Chicago and Philly, but not Boston. Bah! Are Helen Love going to be on TFI Friday this week, dyathink? Rod. -- Rod Begbie Work: rbegbi at sapient.com Play: rod at begbie.com I'm never fashionably late. I just don't show up at all. How cool is that? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From donovan at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 16:34:36 1998 From: donovan at xxx.com (donovan finn) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:34:36 -0400 Subject: Sinister: west coast Message-ID: >Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 21:33:53 -0700 >From: snekyscp at xxx.net >Subject: Sinister: us dates > *---* HAPPY BIRTHDAY SINISTER BABIES *---* >does anyone know if the group will play the west coast (esp calif)? Early 1999. df +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Wed Sep 9 17:04:04 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 17:04:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Promoters ... Message-ID: <35F6A6F4.2E86C761@jeepster.co.uk> Hi everyone, just wondering if anyone could help me at all? a friends band are looking to play some gigs throughout Europe & the UK and i'm looking to contact interested promoters in these areas. so, if you're a promoter and want to put on a relatively new but very exciting band from down under called The Lucksmiths (i know they've been discussed on the list before ... liz is a fan if i recall?) then please mail me privately and we can try to set something up. thanks for listening ... cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Julie_Smith at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 17:17:21 1998 From: Julie_Smith at xxx.com (Julie_Smith at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 09:17:21 -0700 Subject: Sinister: It's a girl! Message-ID: <8825667A.00596989.00@circus.med.iacnet.com> Hey there folks. I'm new to the list and wanted to introduce myself. I admit I felt a little bit guilty reading all of your postings without letting you know that I was listening (?) in. :) I just bought TBWTAS yesterday in San Francisco (where I live) and plan to spend all day at work basking in the glory that is B & S! I have to say that the descriptions of B & S shows have made me extremely jealous and I don't know if I can wait until 1999 to see them in the flesh. . . At any rate, hello everybody. I'm very glad to be here. Julie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TWidmer at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 17:28:37 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 09:28:37 -0700 Subject: Sinister: TBWTAS review from addicted to noise Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF0327F185@amerwksnt01.xil.com> Attached is a review, most noteworthy because the reviewer pretty much neglects to discuss the album at all for most of it. But he gives it 5/5 so I reckon he liked it lots. ********* Belle and Sebastian The Boy With The Arab Strap, Belle and Sebastian (Matador) Less Bang, More Bob These songs get under your skin and infect your hum reflex. Symptoms include bobbing your head from side to side to the beat and doing Eddie Murphy's White People Dance. By Kevin John Lars Ulrich, drummer for Metallica, has to be the crankiest musician alive (at least, he used to be). His trademark in interviews is to rip apart every band in the Western world, including metal ones. In fact, for a while there, I thought the only group he really liked was Diamond Head. (He actually went so far as to moonlight as liner-notes scribe for their Behold The Beginning retrospective.) And I seem to recall him saying that the video for REM's "Shiny Happy People" made him want to smash his television to pieces. Now, for some sick reason, I began to use Mr. Oilrig as a sort of music measuring tool -- as in, "Wow, Lars would really hate this song!" And then I got to thinking that it might be a fun idea to make a tape called "Songs That Would Probably Drive Lars Ulrich Fuckin' Bananas!" The list would include well, yes, "Shiny Happy People," but also Kate Bush's "Wuthering Heights," Madonna's "I'm Going Bananas," Roxanne Shante's "Roxanne's Revenge," DeBarge's "Be My Lady," Suede's "Sleeping Pills" and, most definitely, the Roches' "Ing." The point I'm trying to make here, is that music lovers often conceive of musical irritation or obnoxiousness or drawing lines in the sand as the province of brutish metallers, punkers or sometimes, if they thought hard enough about it, even gangsta rappers. Indeed, those are the very qualities so frequently cited in defense of the value of such music. But I'd like to posit that, while most of the above songs for Lars' tape have listeners that like to feel pretty and witty and gay, we shouldn't downplay their power to irritate the shit out of, say, a world-hating art student or a reality-obsessed Source reader. The shiniest, happiest song can produce as extreme an effect as the loudest, snottiest screed. How this relates to Belle and Sebastian is that I would definitely include "Judy and the Dream of Horses" (the last song off their breakthrough album, If You're Feeling Sinister) on Lars' tape. The title alone is enough to make me laugh out loud at how Lars wouldn't even give it the time of day. In fact, scanning the titles of a Belle and Sebastian album reminds me of paging through those Scholastic Weekly Reader catalogues that sold books like "Freckle Juice" and posters that read something like "Everyone Has Bad Days" and were adorned with pictures of kittens caught up in yarn. Regard: "Spaceboy Dream," "The Boy with the Arab Strap," "Simple Things," "The Rollercoaster Ride" and "Ease Your Feet Into The Sea," all of which are from the new album. If any band could set the silliest book title I've ever heard ("Frosty: A Raccoon To Remember") to music, it would be Belle and Sebastian. Of course, there are also titles like "It Could Have Been A Brilliant Career," "Is It Wicked Not To Care" and "Dirty Dream #2," so I don't want to misrepresent the band. In fact, they rarely radiate a childlike cuteness the way Papas Fritas or Shonen Knife sometimes do. But their songs do access the quality of those obnoxious songs about clowns and whatnot with which your niece or nephew (or son or daughter) return from their first few weeks at kindergarten. Not in terms of content, but in their simple humability, their sheer insistence. Apart from a stray Shante or Missy Elliott rap, the songs of Belle and Sebastian are the only ones I teach to my friends who don't listen to music. Teach to sing, that is. I have no idea what Stuart Murdoch and company are singing about, and I'm not all that interested. Besides, my friends are only hip about hair and clothes, so I'd have no one with whom to discuss their content. The primary fascination Belle and Sebastian hold for me is that for all their verse-chorus-verses and rhyming stanzas, these aren't songs, but rather viruses. They're insidious carriers that get under your skin and infect your hum reflex. Symptoms include bobbing your head from side to side to the beat and doing Eddie Murphy's White People Dance. Usually, this menace is achieved by repeating lines with slight variations, making it easier to break down your immune system. From "It Could Have Been A Brilliant Career": "Painting pines (vines?) in a school that was too well-known/ Painting pines with a friend that had gone before." From "Sleep The Clock Around": "It takes more than this to make sense of the day/ Yeah, it takes more than milk to get rid of the taste." From "Ease Your Feet Into The Sea": "Stay with us 'til we get old/ Stay with us 'til somebody decides to go." If you have the slightest weakness for their intimate, AM radio-influenced folk-pop, their tunes will barge into your life and paralyze your mouth into a Cheshire grin for the duration. (I happen to be in this deliriously happy category.) But, if all you see around you is ugliness, the catchiness will abrade like Chinese Water Torture. How's your forehead feel now, Lars? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sleepflower_msp at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 17:31:48 1998 From: sleepflower_msp at xxx.com (Sam Norman) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 09:31:48 PDT Subject: Sinister: Shepherds Bush - my insecurity, shyness Message-ID: <19980909163148.17107.qmail@hotmail.com> You probably saw me, in the Firkin before the gig. I was there with a friend looking very sheepish hiding in the corner, to scared to speak to you all. we were there from 4.30 before we decided to go and eat Pitta bread and Olives and the green. The gig was great, apart from two people collapsing on me, and the security not helping. And the two people next to me who "i don't know the words to any of the songs" who were obvously just there to be seen. Moaning throughout at everything ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sleepflower_msp at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 17:53:06 1998 From: sleepflower_msp at xxx.com (Sam Norman) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 09:53:06 PDT Subject: Sinister: France Gall Message-ID: <19980909165307.19428.qmail@hotmail.com> Am I right in thinking that France Gall represented Luxembourg? Am I right in thinking that the translation is very un PC? I remember seeing a Eurotrash Eurovision special and that the song was about underage sex or something maybe prostitution ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TWidmer at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 18:09:05 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 10:09:05 -0700 Subject: Sinister: simple things Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF0327F195@amerwksnt01.xil.com> Apologies if the review I sent clogged up the list, well pooh you probably deleted it anyway. One small request, can someone tell me who's who in that photo accompanying the review of "Tibwytas" in Select magazine? Granted the blonde chick is Isobel. Tata, Tara, who sees a similarity between the beginning of "Seymour Stein" and some Gene song... was it "London Can You Wait?" yes, that's it. I think. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ciflux at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 18:17:17 1998 From: Ciflux at xxx.com (Ciflux at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:17:17 EDT Subject: Sinister: nyc and 11/1 Message-ID: Just to let everyone know, Ticketmaster now has tickets for the November 1 Supper Club show, but not the November 2 one. They didn't know when they'd be selling those. In fact, I had to talk to a couple of people before I could find someone who'd take my credit card # and sell me tickets. But I now have secured tix for my fiancee, her sister and myself. And the countdown begins. Speaking of the Lucksmiths, they will be playing in Brooklyn on Sept. 19th, day before the NYC Sinister picnic. I've only heard one song on a mix tape so far, but that's enough to make me curious to hear more... mike appelstein ciflux at aol.com http://members.aol.com/ciflux +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From simonetiger at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 18:18:08 1998 From: simonetiger at xxx.com (michele waggner) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 10:18:08 PDT Subject: Sinister: NY Tickets Message-ID: <19980909171808.22025.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey Kids -- Tickets for the NY show Nov. 1 went on sale at noon -- I am in possession of some, YAY! /me be jammin':) You know, my jealousy days are over...lalala. It did take some diligence on the part of my sainted Ticketmaster vendor -- the appropriately named Stuart -- it kept coming up that they are playing on the 2nd of Nov. So, you strapping Arabs, it looks like there will probably be a Nov. 2nd show as well, just not on-sale yet. Guess they're waiting to fill one all up first. This may have all been said already... I'm at work and can't read the list... and really, who cares but me? Sorry to clog the list but no one here in this cultural wasteland understands the immensity of my momentary joy. michele/simone, whose day has gotten much better despite only 3 hours sleep. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From edgar_malroy at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 18:26:44 1998 From: edgar_malroy at xxx.com (Rob and Emma) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 10:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: florence and b&s Message-ID: <19980909172644.27178.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> dear all a quick message from an internet caf� in florence. hope you all enjoyed the gigs - we're so jealous, but the weather's nicer here! imagine our surprise today when we stumbled across a record shop containing the new album on import! haven't been able to listen to it yet, but we shall tonight, with cheap wine in a florentine square. would send lots of ink polaroids from our travels so far, but e-mail is too expensive here, so must go. arrivederci! rob and emma xxx _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tridophelom at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 18:34:28 1998 From: tridophelom at xxx.com (will grey) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 10:34:28 PDT Subject: Sinister: supper club Message-ID: <19980909173429.20475.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi there... Can anyone describe this space to me? How big, acoustics, etc. etc. etc... I've been in nyc for a while, but RARELY go to shows any more and am almost always disappointed seeing folks in big places... OK... thank you... this list seems to be a happy place. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From torrmoz at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 18:51:31 1998 From: torrmoz at xxx.com (Torr Leonard) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 10:51:31 PDT Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V2 #337 Message-ID: <19980909175131.22831.qmail@hotmail.com> can anyone give me some complete, in order, sets from recent shows? thanks! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lapis at xxx.edu Wed Sep 9 19:10:20 1998 From: lapis at xxx.edu (dave cohen) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:10:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: OT: Lucksmiths Message-ID: <199809091810.OAA19220@pobox.upenn.edu> sorry to be off topic, but as a few folk have mentioned em candle records website (home of the Lucksmiths) http://www.candlerecords.com.au/ they are playing philly on 9/17 with Clock Strikes Thirteen (another band worthy of note) opening. back to your regularly scheduled peace negotiations, --lapis +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stuart at xxx.uk Wed Sep 9 19:17:00 1998 From: stuart at xxx.uk (Stu) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:17:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: robust opinions Message-ID: <000001bddc1e$c0c35bc0$374adec2@acclaaq> >things really picked up towards the end. In fact after the raffle (god >bless B&S!) I think it really got going. I thought I'd just post a few humble opinions about Shepherds Bush too..... I thought both the support act were cool, especially Elliot Smith. Unfortuneatley most od B&S was spoilt for us some really rude people. Being short, I stood just at the top of the stairs. I don't know what the sound was like anywhere else but it was dead quiet and reallt hard to make out what was being said when they spoke to the audience. I don't think B&S are the sort of band that can simply 'turn up the volume' what with being folky, close-mike, gentle sort of music, yet loads of people near usust talked really loudly the whole way through, and it really spoilt it for us. HAving said that, the moments when that loud blond tart was smoking and was quiet for a few moments, I really enjoyed it and I agree that it got much better towards the end. I loved the French song that isobel did at the end very much. In fact, I think she did really well all night. I loved 'is it wicked not to care?' too and I think she really carried a lot of the show. Has anyone seen B&S in smaller venues and would I be right in assuming that they suit a smaller audience a lot more, or am I just getting snobby because I still see them as 'underground/cult' kind of music??? love and sweets..... christine xxxxxxxxxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 19:29:08 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 18:29:08 GMT Subject: Sinister: music sounds better with you Message-ID: <35f7c8bd.1111969@post.demon.co.uk> Hello, I thought of doing a review of the Leeds concert, but I can't improve on Risso's. And not just because he paid me a compliment. Instead then, here's some moments to treasure from the weekend.... 1 Live at Leeds. All of it. Oh yes. Even Aberdonian bruiser John Warrender is on the verge of tears. Leeds is a 24 hour city. And is it me, or is Stuart Gardiner growing? Quote of the night from Little Sarah: "So is this what it means to rule?". Exactly. 2 At the pub before the Nottingham show, where a drunken mob inside are singing "You've lost that loving feeling", "Do you they know it's Christmas", and other hits. A man in the toilet tells Chris Leonard that "it's a sad arse that can't rejoice". 3 Running into my old drinking partner, the Boy Naughty, for the first time in 4 years, in Nottingham when he was supposed to be in Dublin. A confirmed techno enthusiast, the boy had lost his voice, but still managed to croak the words "Fucking beautiful" when I asked him what he thought of the show. 4 "Pass the duchess on the left hand side." Well, it made me laugh. 5 Isobel belting out "Poupee de cire, poupee de son". Serge himself would have been proud. Apparently someone was overheard during the song, shouting the title, the singer, the writer, the precise date of its entry into Eurovision, and the name of the engineer's pet goldfish. In the olden days, it was enough to shout "Huzzah! Splendid show". 6 Spinmaster Symington playing "I believe in miracles" by the Jackson Sisters sending me scuttling to the dancefloor. Chris and Julia laughed at my expression of rapt concentration. Philistines. 7 Tim Hopkins, after realising that his happy smiling face will be once again be gracing the gutter press, hopefully accompanied by words like "vignettes" and "maladroits". 8 The journey back from Nottingham, getting lost in Derby (Keith's helpful advice "you need to find the big fuck-off dual carriageway" was greatly appreciated) and being too proud to consult a map, then driving through "a veritable pea-souper", and singing "The day we went to Scropton" in a desperate attempt to stay awake as swamp fever set in. 9 Rod's look of sheer terror when I introduced myself to him. Rod, you don't half write some bollocks sometimes, but you're OK. 10 Lastly, Keith "I bump for a buck" Watson, whose antics almost merit a post of their own. He began by clipping my ex-flatmate round the ear, and finished by taking the phrase "flower-bed" rather too literally. Rock, thy name is Keith. So maybe the London show was too quiet, maybe it was too hot, and maybe some of the audiences could only be described as wankers. But it was a pleasure to meet you all. The kids are alright, we've got it going on, and don't you forget it. Love Tag xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 19:40:34 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:40:34 EDT Subject: Sinister: An Ink Polaroid (with apologies and thanks to Stuart David) Message-ID: I've just put on 'If you're feeling sinister' for the first proper listen in ages, and with the sun going down, and the light in my room fading, i've just remembered a beautiful memory, linked inextricably with 'seeing other people', well, the first half of the whole album actually. I've taken a quick picture of it before it's lost forever: This one's quite faded now, but then it is a few years old. It was taken on the first day of 1997, a day when the heavy snow kept the real world at bay for a just little while longer. It's mostly white of course, but that dark shape in the distance is me, in a big wooly overcoat, with my back to the camera. I always wore a big wooly overcoat in those days. Despite the snow, the trains are still running, and so that's what I'm doing on the station platform, I'm waiting for the train home. You can't see my actress friend in the picture, 'cause she's just left, wrapped in a big scarf, with her big hair full of big white snow flakes. And despite the snow, it's quite dark, so you can hardly read where I've written in the snow 'I will love catherine for ever'. The snow's falling in a trance, and right in the corner of the picture, you can see the end of the train to paris, sliding away into the dark mouth of the tunnel. funkyseb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Wed Sep 9 20:10:33 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 20:10:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: stuff ... Message-ID: <35F6D2A9.252D9E67@jeepster.co.uk> Hi everyone, well after my last post re: The Lucksmiths, i got quite a few mails about them, so i though i'd pass on their US tour dates ... Wednesday September 9 Lounge Ax Chicago, IL, USA Thursday September 10 (with Trinitone, Shoestrings) Magic Stick Detroit, USA Friday September 11 (with Trinitone, Vulva Ultra) Vinyl Solution Grand Rapids, MI, USA Saturday September 12 VENUE TO BE CONFIRMED Detroit, MI, USA Tuesday September 15 (with The Heartworms, Honeymoon Diary - Free Entry) The Galaxy Hut Arlington, Washington DC, USA Thursday September 17 (with Clock Strikes Thirteen, Cuppa Joe - All Ages) Bryn Mawr's Campus Center Philadelphia, PA, USA Friday September 18 VENUE TO BE CONFIRMED New York, NY, USA Saturday September 19 (with Poundsign, Aisler's Set, The Fairways, Clock Strikes 13 - 3pm) House Party - Shelflife hq 38 St.Marks Place Brooklyn, New York, USA Tuesday September 22 (Onstage 8pm) The Kendall Cafe - 233 Cardinal Medeiros Ave Cambridge , MA, USA cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jwg.wren at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 20:08:30 1998 From: jwg.wren at xxx.com (Jonathan Wren) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 20:08:30 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Seymour Stein mishearing?/non-home homesickness Message-ID: <35F6D22D.22925095@dial.pipex.com> Is it just me or is part of the lyric to Seymour Stein different to what's in the inlay? In the book it reads: North of Scotland has he seen? Won't he hire a limousine? Now to me this sounds like: Has he ever seen Dundee? Ronnie, Harold and Rosemary? Now, I think it *is* `Has he ever seen Dundee?' but I think the second line is just my fanciful (mis)interpretation. I hope the Dundee bit is really there; first mention I can recall in a song since Panic by The Smiths. I have been experiencing a very strange phenomena. It's homesickness but, well, I'm in London and I'm at home. I've always lived in this part of East London, bordering on Essex, bar Uni at Canterbury and seven months in Dundee. But ever since Monday night and meeting all the lovely people I met (mostly Scottish) I have been pining for Scotland; I think it was Keith's accent that finally did it, for some reason making me think of the hills around Dundee I used to look at on the 32/33 bus ride back to Fintry. This is a strange phenomena and I think unless I see Scotland again in the next twelve months I may flip out. I'm not fetishising Scottishness (oo-er) but something about speaking to all the friends I've met from Scotland gives me this weird sort of ache. S'funny, I suppose. I've been listening to the album loads, promising myself I will make renewed effort to think of intelligent things to say about B&S to you lot and hoping that The Boys (and Girls) with the Arab Strap might take a trip down to Exeter (where I'm moving to soon) so's I can see them this autumn. Who knows what time will bring? Take care pop kids, Jon -- ****************************************** FANTASTIC O's!!! The unofficial Leyton Orient Mailing List Sponsors of DAVE MORRISON All subscription queries can be found at: http://www.isfa.com/isfa/lists/orient/ SAVE XFM: LONDON'S ONLY ALTERNATIVE MUSIC STATION HAS BEEN MUTILATED BY CAPITAL RADIO GO TO: http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~nsheff/xfm/index.html for the full story and help save XFM! ****************************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 20:15:38 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 15:15:38 EDT Subject: Sinister: Dawkins, the unstoppable sex machine Message-ID: <178fef93.35f6d3da@aol.com> I've just had a post from erstwhile listee dickon (I'm sure I used to read your mails) which neatly sums up the tiny Richard Dawkins thread (apologies if he's posted it too): << Not content with being a world-famous authority on Darwinism and evolution, he took his King Scientist role even further and married the second Romana off Doctor Who, y'know, the one that Tom Baker wed for about 6 months. She's probably the one most B&S fans would want to marry: blond, a bit wet, childlike and girly, with a penchant for school uniforms and an overbite that only the real upper classes have (she's titled aristocracy )... presumably handy for opening bottles, too. There was a recent TV documentary presented by Dawkins which had one scene of him punting down the Cam with his wife. One can only imagine he watched that Doctor Who story where the same thing happened and thought "I could do that..." dickon x >> Evolutionary scientists kick ass! seb (incidentally, this post may not be read in certain parts of the US) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From barzy at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 21:53:46 1998 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:53:46 -0800 Subject: Sinister: non-home homesickness Message-ID: >I have been experiencing a very strange phenomena. It's homesickness >but, well, I'm in London and I'm at home. I've always lived in this part >of East London, bordering on Essex, bar Uni at Canterbury and seven >months in Dundee. But ever since Monday night and meeting all the lovely >people I met (mostly Scottish) I have been pining for Scotland; I too have recently experienced this strange phenomena. *sigh* Two mates from Scotland (Aberdeen and Glasgow) came over (to LA) for a visit, and have left me very homesick for my non-home. Of course, I made the both of them listen to Belle & Sebastian the whole time...but I don't think they minded too much....I too miss Dundee...especially the view from the b-seat of a train...going over the bridges...ow...it hurts. Ow ow ow. LA seems so much uglier with my little Scots gone..No more cups of tea waiting for me when I get home. Arse biscuits. My best mate (the one from Aberdeen) has been here for 2 weeks and i'd not anticipated how sad i'd be when she went back. I tend to cork up everything so that it all comes out in one ugly mess...this usually occurs unexpectedly, in the car..listening to Belle & Sebastian. It was on the way home from work, when I realized that she'd be gone when I got home, on her way back to dreary Aberdeen...and i'd still be here..in sunny, putrid LA. and it happend...about 10 seconds into "Is It Wicked Not To Care"....the floodgates opened on the 101 heading South. Why does this happen whilst listening to B&S? I think there's something in the music that allows us to feel sorry for ourselves..or MAKES us......something I don't do often....or if I do, it's all corked up and stuffed away for... the next time i'm listening to Belle & Sebastian. Sheilding her face from the sun she says, "is that the bonnie brae?" crumbs. beth +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tangent at xxx.net Wed Sep 9 20:49:54 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 20:49:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: feltist overtones References: <01bddbd5$39e3f680$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Message-ID: <35F6DBE2.358C8860@lineone.net> PJMiller wrote: > I don't know if anyone has already pointed this out (still haven't read Cock > Fun) but "Is the Wicker Man Scared?" seems to quote a keyboard line from > Felt at the end. It took me ages to identify it, of course the duchess spotted it first, with an immediate 'oh that sounds just like felt'. and whilst driving our motor car also. of course both she and the miller man are quite correct. stuart was wearing his felt t-shirt in London, and i hear that Lawrence is on the dole! as pam pointed out, this is a Pop abomination, and it made us all profoundly sad. belle and sebastian should have had him and his Denim as support instead of mr smith, who, although i am partial to his records, sucked live. me and my points of view, eh? the duke PS Niceaction at aol.com wrote: > Firstly, i must say soz to David Kitchen for commenting to him on Monday that > i thought he was a much older guy... ooops, i just always pictured you as a > kind of school teacher guy.. :o( Sowwwweee oops, someone getting me and david mixed up! sorry david. school today was a bit fraught, me trying to look ill (not hard) and everyone being concerned as to my health. it's a bit sad also not to be able to tell everyone how much fun i had, but 'tis a small price to pay. -- 'all of our dreams are dying of overdoses' Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 21:29:38 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 16:29:38 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Where're the Hardy Boys when ya need 'em? Message-ID: <35F6E530.DEBC8611@bigfoot.com> I love the album, of course, but I just thought I'd get this out of the way before I write back and gush: MYSTERIES OF THE BOY WITH THE ARAB STRAP --All three Belle and Sebastian albums start out almost identically. Stuart singing a line as fragile as possible and a barely audible piano or acoustic guitar in the background. Intentional, or is this just the best way to start an album? --Why, after ten months work, are there so many bum notes (think of the violin solo and every other bass note) in "Ease Your Feet Into the Sea"? --How come, in ten months, no one noticed that the s's in the spoken part of Dirty Dream #2 are so pronounced and hot as to render your average human immediately deaf? "In a town SSSo SSSSmall..." AAAAGGGH FUCK! --The biggest mystery: the Sinister masses, long ago, ask "Where did B&S get their name?" "From a French cartoon", most sources say. "No", official people say, "They got it from a piece of fiction that Stuart M. wrote. The cartoon is just coincidence." But we've all read on the back of the album now that Belle and Sebastian officially announce that they DID get it from the French children's book/cartoon. ???? What's going on? Were they afraid of getting sued, so they made up the story about Stuart M's fiction? Or did they really get it from the Stuart M. story and just figured that it'd be better to just *pretend* they got it from the book to avoid legal wrangles? Or were they just yanking our chain as usual? Or ARE they just yanking our chain as usual? --Once again, the band witholds all mentions of songwriting credit, leaving listeners to wonder...if that IS Isobel's song, why are her lyrics so eerily similar to those of one Stuart Murdoch, Glasgow? Stevie's songs aren't very mysterious. But who wrote the music to "Spaceboy Dream"? Just a few things to keep you up at night... By the way, I'd just like to interject my feelings about the whole "Seymour Stein" controversy (okay, it's not very controversial). I really like the fact that Stevie writes about the events of a highly sought and cherished band as though they were everyday, normal occurences. Why shouldn't he write about such things? And just because they didn't sign with Sire, why should we assume that the song is "scathing"? I don't think that Belle and Sebastian necessarily *didn't* want to be rich and famous, but they had enough smarts and foresight to see the shit that you have to go through in order to get to that point, and they didn't want to do it. Most bands don't have that sort of self-restraint. Point being that having dinner (or missing dinner) with Seymour Stein is a pretty damn cool story. I knew a couple of the guys in the band Athenaeum...they used to come into the record store I worked at in Greensboro, NC, and they were being courted by major labels (they're on Atlantic now). Their music is okay...didn't really twirl my ticket...but Nick (drummer) and Mark (singer) are about two of the nicest guys around, and it was fascinating to hear their stories of being flown to LA or going out to dinner with label heads, etc. Seymour Stein is appealing to me in the same way those stories are appealing. It's also interesting to not that Athenaeum's Atlantic album hasn't sold much, which kind of points that much more to Belle and Sebastian's smarts. You can get wined and dined and promised the moon, but that certainly doesn't guarantee that you'll be rich and famous. Enough already! Reid +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From laurel_girvan at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 22:28:01 1998 From: laurel_girvan at xxx.com (Laurel Girvan) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 98 16:28:01 -0500 Subject: Sinister: what release? Message-ID: <9809099053.AA905373769@hholt.com> ink polaroid from yesterday, 9.8.98 if you hold this photo so the light doesn't hit the flat spot that was caused from dabbing off melted ice cream, you can see me gesticulating wildly at the poor girl working at Virgin records. there's a bit of a sheen on my face and my shirt is sticking to me cuz i've been carrying too many bags around looking for this brand new store. now that i'm here, i've just been told they don't have TBWTAS, though the shopgirl is just as upset as i am, as she's been looking to buy it ever since she got to work that morning. the only thing keeping my face from appearing as a horrible rictus of anguish is a bit of a joke. you see, the shopgirl misheard me. when i said i was *looking* for the new album, she heard *working* for the new album, so i had a few seconds of label exec fame. of course, it didn't get me the album any sooner. so i'm off to the store after work again today - here's hoping. smooches to all you kittens, laurel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 18:02:10 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (JJ) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 18:02:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: appetite for destruction References: <19980909163148.17107.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <35F6B492.5337@seahouses.u-net.com> Sam Norman wrote: > > we were there from 4.30 before we decided to go and eat Pitta > bread and Olives and the green. Just how did Shepherds Bush green taste? I couldn't manage a whole one. JJ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From z2d71t.044 at xxx.it Wed Sep 9 22:56:20 1998 From: z2d71t.044 at xxx.it (Massimiliano Bernardini) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 23:56:20 +0200 Subject: Sinister: First time Message-ID: <35F6F984.189C23EB@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Hello! I'm "Passi". I write from a small city of Italy where I had luck to know, listen, enjoy, own B&S songs; all thanks to Marco#7, not a simple friend for me but my "Brother In Mind"! And now I'm here in the list to know other people that have their hearts and minds caught by Belle and Sebastian. Passi +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Wed Sep 9 22:33:34 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 17:33:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: b&s nyc nov. 1 on sale now Message-ID: at ticketmaster, despite what they said this morning. so buy now, or be at other music tomorrow at noon. xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MSitar0 at xxx.com Wed Sep 9 23:21:07 1998 From: MSitar0 at xxx.com (MSitar0 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:21:07 EDT Subject: Sinister: chicago tickets Message-ID: <3051398f.35f6ff53@aol.com> Just as a warning to all the Chicago fans.... when i bought my ticket today from ticketmaster, they said there weren't that many left. so y'all had better hurry up and get a ticket while you still can. Meghan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From thunderw at xxx.uk Wed Sep 9 23:44:29 1998 From: thunderw at xxx.uk (James) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 23:44:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: nottingham Message-ID: hello I'm on the digest and as people on the digest probably know it's not been very well and we've all been getting little parcels of nothingness instead of mail for some time now. So since the nottingham gig I've had no mail at all, and thus have not been able to play my part in the post gig joyousness. I've just received all the digests I missed as one huge bulging sackful, but it's going to take me hours to wade through it all, and I want to talk NOW NOW NOW or my limbs'll fall off or something. So anyhows, my point is this, I'm going to tell you my nottingham experiences, and you've probably heard it all before, because you've been nattering for ages, but I'm going to tell you anyway. So, erm, sorry...and all that. Well, during the course of my quick flick through I've noticed that a lot of you have been complaining about the heat and such like, and I kind of noticed that (it was hard not to), but to be honest, with a performance like that it sooo didn't bother me. I would have felt positively greedy asking to be able to breathe as WELL.... But OK, I see your point, if that sort of thing gets to you. And I could hear them perfectly well (and I wasn't right at the front), so I don't really understand all this stuff about sound problems. The only problem as far as I could see was people talking too loudly, and too often and over the top of songs. But then you get that everywhere. And I cried during two of the songs. Prize to anyone who can guess which two. And oh my god, oh my god, Isobel looked so beautiful. I'm praying to god my photos come out. And her cello, and her voice were both spot on. And Stuart's voice was on top form. And Stevie sounded fantastic too. And thay just sound so much like a band now rather than loads of separate little things. And they were so smooth and so lush and so competent. Manchester seems light years away. It was magic. And we took some white wine with us called Tigermilk. And on the way home there was a full moon, and the best fog EVER, and we saw a BAT! A bloody bat. It flickered right over our car on the M42. A really big one too. Oh you're all so beautiful. Molly xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From janine at xxx.com Thu Sep 10 01:07:50 1998 From: janine at xxx.com (Janine Papp) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:07:50 -0500 Subject: Sinister: my 2 cents, consolidated Message-ID: http://thetransom.com/chip/zines/noframes/interv/raw7.html this is about buses and it's funny as hell. (I'm a big fan of buses.) I just purchased 2 tickets from ticketmaster for the Nov. 1st show and had to pay all this extra $$$ for all their crappy service charges. I was going to wait until tomorrow to buy tickets from Other Music but I was afraid it would sell out! I will buy tickets to the Nov. 2nd show there. :) oh yeah and one time I saw Elliott Smith practice - in my living room. how's that for a small venue? (it's a long story) I think he's great. I wonder who is opening for B&S in the U.S.?? needless to say TBWTAS is great. and of course lots of songs sound like other songs - that's what happens when you have a choice of ABCDEF and G, there's only so much you can do with it. Of course, it's the feeling in the music that makes it special and above and beyond average. it's in the lyrics, it's in the way they play it - oh you all know this so I'm shutting up now because the list is clogged up enough as it is. oh ONE last thing -I think maybe people should stop posting long reviews of the album to the list - you could tell us where to find it and we can pursue it on our own. OK now I'm really done. Queen Bee Janine +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Thu Sep 10 00:22:18 1998 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:22:18 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: Barcode Ellen In-Reply-To: <19980907113912.23256.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Sep 1998, Michael Jones wrote: > 'Boy-scout production' ? It's practically audiophile, for God's sake. I have no idea what "Boy-scout production" is supposed to sound like, but I disagree with both descriptions. To my ears, the recordings and mixes are clear and detailed, but all hark back to the "warm" tone of about 30 years ago -- which is to say, "vintage". Should I know the producer from other work? --Mark __ Imminent: SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 "The electricity is no better off than on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bilner at xxx.com Thu Sep 10 02:44:44 1998 From: bilner at xxx.com (bilner) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:44:44 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Can anyone in US burn me a Tigermilk CD? Message-ID: Help?! Bill Blackeyed Susans: 20/20 Vision is now on the stereo Visit the East River Pipe home page: http://www.loop.com/~bilner/erp.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mphintz at xxx.com Thu Sep 10 03:47:11 1998 From: Mphintz at xxx.com (Mphintz at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 22:47:11 EDT Subject: Sinister: NYC Picnic Plans Message-ID: <8c89e3f2.35f73daf@aol.com> If you are interested in attending the New York City Sinister list picnic on September 20, email me privately to be added to the mailing list and sent details. Of course, everyone is welcome to attend! Cheers :-) Living and loving Matthew Mphintz at aol.com mhintz at eden.rutgers.edu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kimpostor at xxx.com Thu Sep 10 04:43:52 1998 From: kimpostor at xxx.com (Kimberly Forrette) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 20:43:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Philly * NY Message-ID: <19980910034352.8774.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> hello everyone i live in northern california, where the land is lovely and the weather is exquisite, but the record shops are, shall we say, lacking -- as none of them have gotten TBWTAS in stock yet and it's been two days. and that shit is just unacceptable. i share the angst of my fellow subscriber from Fresno. anyway... i'm going out East for the B*S shows in Philly and NY. has anyone organized any kind of get-togethers before/after either of these shows? i'd like to coo along with some other fans, that would be delightful. and am i a complete buffoon, or has someone already revealed who will be supporting on these East Coast dates? yours in buffoonery, kim _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Thu Sep 10 09:07:14 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:07:14 Subject: Sinister: Elliott Smith and other things Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19980910090714.2417895c@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Hi happy girls and happy boys, Can anyone tell me the name of the guitarist who join Elliott Smith in London (he was certainly with him for the other gigs) ? Was he Sam Coomes from Quasi? I also forgot the title of the song this guy sang (just after Division Day). 20 days to wait before the gig in Strasbourg... So far away so close. Are some of you listees coming in Strasbourg ? On october 5th, Belle & Sebastian are supposed to do a radio session for the Bernard Lenoir Show, on France Inter. You will be able to listen to this session on the web : http://www.eutelsat.org/radio/1012.html But you can also receive France Inter in UK with a "normal" radio I think. Philippe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snekyscp at xxx.net Thu Sep 10 08:40:33 1998 From: snekyscp at xxx.net (snekyscp at xxx.net) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 00:40:33 -0700 Subject: Sinister: merchandise Message-ID: <35F78271.D160618A@prodigy.net> does anyone know if any b&s posters are available, if matador is giving promo posters to record stores? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Arigreen23 at xxx.com Thu Sep 10 11:18:12 1998 From: Arigreen23 at xxx.com (Arigreen23 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 06:18:12 EDT Subject: Sinister: Philly, NY Message-ID: I would be very happy to have a get-together before the Philly show. Any ideas anyone? ari +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jmurphy at xxx.Edu Thu Sep 10 11:20:17 1998 From: jmurphy at xxx.Edu (Jessica Murphy) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 06:20:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: what was it i saw in new york? Message-ID: Hi folks... There's a nice little drawing of B & S onstage in the "Goings on About Town" pages of this week's NEW YORKER. Don't laugh... I originally learned about B & S from favorable review blurbs in this very magazine... Anyhow, since it only covers a week's worth of concert dates at a time in its actual listings, getting a picture almost 2 months ahead of time must mean something. Glad I already got my NYC tickets, jessica m xoxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Thu Sep 10 11:55:19 1998 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:55:19 +0200 Subject: Sinister: First time References: <35F6F984.189C23EB@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Message-ID: <35F7B017.C79D022A@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Hi Passi(1), welcome to the list, here you can find nice and friendly people all join B&S 's music and more......... For all, i and Passi live in the same city in Italy and we are REAL FRIEND(he's a fantastic person). Bye Passi , thanks for your judgement. Marco#7. Massimiliano Bernardini ha scritto: > Hello! I'm "Passi". > I write from a small city of Italy where I had luck to know, listen, > enjoy, own B&S songs; all thanks to Marco#7, not a simple friend for me > but my "Brother In Mind"! > And now I'm here in the list to know other people that have their hearts > and minds caught by Belle and Sebastian. > > Passi > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From heinitz at xxx.net Wed Sep 9 20:52:44 1998 From: heinitz at xxx.net (Heinitz) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 98 19:52:44 GMT Subject: Sinister: leeds... Message-ID: <980909195244.n0001329.heinitz@mail.clara.net> i know it's a bit after-the-event to be talking about the leeds gig, but i'm on the digest and i've only just got about a hundred delayed digests to read through, so my head's all sinister-y, no, what was i saying? about the leeds gig. well, me and my friend went to the whitelocks on the off chance i would be able to summon up the courage to say to complete strangers, "hey, are you sinister? i am the girl who briefly had a mouse, you may have read my strange messages. let's talk about belle and sebastian." and it transpired i didn't have the courage to do this, so i just sat down outside with my friend and we chatted and looked at other people out of the corners of our eyes, guessing who were fans. so, i failed at the gathering part, but i think maybe by the time belle and sebastian next come to my county i'll know you all a bit better, and it'll be enough to say "hello, i'm abi". the gig itself was quite the loveliest gig ever. i'm usually not in favour of sitting down at gigs, but it worked so well. and ice creams? ambassador, you are really spoiling us. "get me away from here i'm dying" is maybe my favourite belle and sebastian song i've heard so far at the moment, but stuart forgetting the words was such a gorgeous moment, i will be smiling my little smile whenever i think of it. me and my friend were enjoying ourselves so much, and we would have loed to go to brighton beach afterwards (and maybe with more alcohol in me i would have been able to meet people properly) but we had to get to our respective homes, being only teenagers and both travelling home alone. i haven't got TBWTAS yet (can you sense my jealousy?) because although i spent six hours on saturday with a three year old on my knee, her parents STILL haven't paid me (grr). when they do, i will be on the bus to town as much like a shot as i have ever been. and the whole thing about turning tables round... is it not connected to the phrase "turning the tables" on somebody, which is... how do i explain... it's like changing the situation so it's the other way around. oh dear, that's about as clear as chocolate (preferable to mud), isn't it? ignore me, i'm probably wrong. love, abi xxx ps. hannah? are you the hannah i went to see kenickie with and who recently sent me an item of confectionary? if so, hi. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sleepflower_msp at xxx.com Thu Sep 10 13:23:03 1998 From: sleepflower_msp at xxx.com (Sam Norman) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 05:23:03 PDT Subject: Sinister: room for rent? Message-ID: <19980910122303.5748.qmail@hotmail.com> Ok i know that the list isn't supposed to be for this kind of thing, but are any of the people out there students in london? If you are you may be able to help me. I'm starting at the School of Slavonic and East European Studies to study history at the end of the month and i need somewhere to live. If you have a spare room or know anyone who does you may be able to help me so please get back to me privately ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From esincoff at xxx.com Thu Sep 10 13:51:37 1998 From: esincoff at xxx.com (Ethan Sincoff) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:51:37 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Philly * NY References: <19980910034352.8774.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: <35F7CB59.BDE63069@icon.com> Hi I'd certainly like to meet up b4 one of the gigs. Does anyone have any suggestions / set plans??? I have been to the Supper Club a couple of times before, yet memory does not serve me to think of a hip meeting place / watering hole!! Any ideas? email me privately regarding meeting up at NYC gigs ethan Kimberly Forrette wrote: > hello everyone > > i live in northern california, where the land is lovely and the > weather is exquisite, but the record shops are, shall we say, lacking > -- as none of them have gotten TBWTAS in stock yet and it's been two > days. and that shit is just unacceptable. i share the angst of my > fellow subscriber from Fresno. anyway... > > i'm going out East for the B*S shows in Philly and NY. has anyone > organized any kind of get-togethers before/after either of these > shows? i'd like to coo along with some other fans, that would be > delightful. > > and am i a complete buffoon, or has someone already revealed who will > be supporting on these East Coast dates? > > yours in buffoonery, > kim > > _________________________________________________________ > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Sep 10 14:01:13 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:01:13 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Liverpool Girls Beat All the Rest Message-ID: <01bddcbb$17a92cc0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> I enjoyed that seagull/eagle mishearing. I find it strangely erotic. As usual, I've been trying really hard to mishear things on TWATTYBUS, but the best I've come up with is "Has he ever seen Gandhi?" from Seymour Stein. I thought maybe Mister Jackson was criticising Mister Stein for being a sleeping partner type executive at Dreamworks, but then I remembered that that was Lenny Waronker, not Seymour Stein. One or two other things that have arisen over recent weeks: 1) Belle and Sebastian have played a festival, the BAM Festival in Barcelona. 2) Officially it was a 1000 capacity venue, but I think there were about twice that many people, all packed in like terribly sophisticated sardines. It didn't really bother me, because I was hanging from a gargoyle, kicking my stumpy little legs in time to the music, but it was dead crowded. 3) It was free. I would say that, at a push, 20% of the people knew who B&S were. But as far as I could see (from my lofty vantage point) hardly anybody buggered off half way through. Which speaks volumes about B&S's magnetic charms. Either that or the enormous crush of people anyone wanting to escape would have had to negotiate. 4) Stevie sang "Seymour Stein" in a really thick Scotch accent, like Mister McKay in "Porridge". Paul reminds me of Mister Barraclough from the same programme. I remind myself of Lenny Godber (in my dreams). 5) I agree that big concerts are pish. I can't think of a single good one I've been to. And they're dead expensive. But that's life, isn't it? The other day I noticed that BB King has recorded loads of live albums in prisons. Now there's an idea! But I have a feeling that wee Isobel wouldn't get out with all her faculties intact. And Stuart would probably get bummed. Still, it would be worth it. IMHO. love, Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aevans at xxx.uk Thu Sep 10 14:00:29 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:00:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ease your feet Message-ID: <01BDDCC3.5F36C400@pc07628> A few highlights (?) of my trip to London on Monday. 1) Spaceboy Dream...bass blew me away...superb...I hadn't heard any of the new stuff as I didn't buy the LP until Tuesday and it's just not the same on the album. 2) Seeing that Sean Hughes still likes every band I've ever liked..or is that the other way round ? And me just hours earlier having bought his debut novel...freaky. 3) Having to laugh at Keef *The Knuckles* Watson getting lairy with the bloke in front of us who had paid a tenner to treat us to a few Townshendesque renditions of B&S songs. On seeing that noone particularly was amused/interested he then proceeded to talk to his bird through half the show. CU Next Tuesday. By the way, Nice to meet you Keith. 4) After being generally disappointed with the show, although delighted to have just been there, we went to Plastic People....fucking crap. Sorry Duke, should have listened to your advice. Apologies for not piping up and saying hello to the listees that were stood either side of us in PP. I don't know who you were, but we were sat on the bouncy seats by the bar. Again, sorry but we were totally shagged after a days shopping, pissed as farts after a days drinking, and hiding from a rather dodgy looking bloke who had taken a shining to my Kate and looking at me as though he was going to ease his feet into my teeth. Oh and I'm a bit shy for introductions. 5) Sitting in Picadilly 24 hour McDonalds for 2 hours drinking the same cup of coffee, watching the local fruitcakes screaming at the security cameras...best fun of my entire holiday. 6) Abusing Buckingham Palace at 5 o'clock in the morning, cos they wouldn't let me use the Queens John....not bad on 2 pints of Strongbow and 4 Diamond Whites. 7) Calling the bloke in Victoria Station a CU Next Tuesday cos he wouldn't let us use our tickets before 9:30 and charged an extra £20....Fucker. 8) Joosters are fucking horrible. Adrian. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Thu Sep 10 14:01:36 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:01:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Sex with vinyl Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E221F3FB0@server1.HITEntertainment.com> I'm sure I'm the only person sad enough to scroll down the technosphere posting, but I did and was astonished to find this among all the other rogering: "Boy With Arab Strap mated with keith (ID 716055) but conception didn't take place." Now loving a band is fair enough, but isn't this taking it a bit too far? It was great to finally meet Keith, and numerous other people it would take too long to mention - even the foul-mouthed Mick Cooke (TM) was in meet 'n' greet mode, which was special. I was pleased to discover that absolutely no-one looks like I'd imagined (though Liz Daplyn reminds me totally of Miranda Richardson, which can only be a good thing), and every time I read a post from someone who was there who I didn't meet, it seems a real shame. Hey ho. I'm off to HMV to buy my third ...Arab Strap today - it's for my mum, who's crazy about the B&S experience. Any news on the midweek chart position? Okay, lunch break is well and truly over - bye bye everyone, Biondino +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From glundell at xxx.COM Thu Sep 10 14:12:30 1998 From: glundell at xxx.COM (Gina Lundell) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:12:30 -0500 Subject: Sinister: shameless plug Message-ID: Hello, all, Writing from the digest side of things. I saw this and had to make a shameless plug for my best friend's band: >well after my last post re: The Lucksmiths, i got quite a few mails >about them, so i though i'd pass on their US tour dates ... >Thursday September 10 >(with Trinitone, Shoestrings) >Magic Stick >Detroit, USA Trinitone is their name and they can be good, provided Derek, my friend, is not drunk and the sound man doesn't put a mic in front of him. He has a real propensity to offend. The singer Dominick has a very gentle, sweet voice. Good pop music all around. I'll see any Chicago listees at the show. have a good day, jason _____________________________________ This message has been sent by Jason Broccardo. I am the temporary Administrative Assistant in the Chicago office during Gina Lundell's absence. Adobe Systems Inc. 6133 N. River Road, Suite 740 Rosemont, IL 60018 847.384.7311 847.384.7350 fax glundell at adobe.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk Thu Sep 10 14:15:33 1998 From: Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk (Sarah Wheeler) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:15:33 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Duuuuuh! Message-ID: <199809101315.OAA05965@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk> Sister Disco wrote: >As usual, I've been trying really hard to mishear things on TWATTYBUS, but the >best I've come up with is "Has he ever seen Gandhi?" from Seymour Stein. At very first listen I thought there was a line in 'It could've been a brilliant career' that went "Eating pies in a school that was too well-known"....not as good as the seagull/eagle ingenuity, but...... Oh and should I be honoured that Stuart M sang 'Century of Fakers' just for me....yes I did fill my fat face with every kind of cake...at a retirement do on Saturday.....and promptly threw them all back up again!!! I think I'm turning lardy. Funny how this seems to be all about food Going now to step on the scales Byeee Sarah x ======================= Sarah Wheeler Room 106 West Medical Building University of Glasgow GLASGOW G12 8QQ 0141-339 8855 ext.2860 ======================= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Thu Sep 10 14:26:38 1998 From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:26:38 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ease your feet Message-ID: <005d01bddcbe$a3ccd910$4429c22b@bond.broadcast> >2) Seeing that Sean Hughes still likes every band >I've ever liked..or is that the other way round ? >And me just hours earlier having bought his debut >novel...freaky. Claim to fame - I stood on his toes whilst he was waiting at the bar on Monday. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MWaggner at xxx.com Thu Sep 10 14:26:35 1998 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:26:35 EDT Subject: Sinister: Liverpool Girls Beat All the Rest Message-ID: <7c6cf195.35f7d38b@aol.com> In a message dated 98-09-10 09:04:42 EDT, you write: > > usual, I've been trying really hard to mishear things on TWATTYBUS, but the > best I've come up with is "Has he ever seen Gandhi?" from Seymour Stein. Before I got the booklet with the lyrics, I thought the EXACT same thing!! Thank you!! Then, I read the lyrics, which are different, and sat trying to figure out what I heard -- and suddenly a lightbulb went on in my head and I thought "Dundee!!" Quite an accomplishment, as I am fairly geographically challenged. People have been wondering about the Supper Club. It's a nice venue in many ways, and certainly not so big as the synagogue they played in last year in NY, I don't think. Maybe the same capacity overall, no? The Supper Club is really not so "showynice" as the photos on its website, unless they've done it over in the last few months -- but I thought when it was first mentioned that it was a good choice. It does have stars on the ceiling. People crowd in around the railing. The main room is on a couple of levels: the floor area where everyone crowds in to hear the band, then a step or two up to the bar area in the back and little curtained cubicles with tables along each side where the "important" people can sit. I'm always surprised that there are SO MANY important people -- and yet I am never on the list. It's all overlooked by a balcony area, with tables. I guess that's where you can get supper, but I've never seen anyone eating there. You've had to be important to get up there as well, at least at the shows I've attended. Except for the candy you can buy in the restrooms -- which are the nicest of any venue I've been at, with one of those women who hands you a towel, in the ladies' room at least. So bring some money to tip her if you have to use the loo. It looks like lots of people from all over will be at the NY picnic on Sept. 20th -- it will be great to put faces to names. --michele/simone +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mjh18 at xxx.uk Thu Sep 10 14:48:27 1998 From: mjh18 at xxx.uk (mjh18 at xxx.uk) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:48:27 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: A few things... In-Reply-To: from "James" at Sep 9, 98 11:44:29 pm Message-ID: <1132.199809101348@owl.le.ac.uk> It Could Have Been A Brilliant Career goes like this in my BRANE: He had a stroke at the Age of 24 It Could Have Been A Brilliant Career But i've love in my pocket, love in my pocket YOU're so Vain, i bet you think this song is about you Yopu're va-ee-aaa-ain... and so on... have other readers noticed this? Just me then... not to DISS it tho, it's the best on the record, and every listen makes the record better and better. Thank heavens for that. In other news: I'm glad i didn't DREAM Dundee in Seymour Stein. Please don't anyone EVER try drinking Tigermilk "wine" just because of the name - it is like THUNDERBIRD but with a pound of sugar stirred in. Eesh. And yeah, when are those unreleased ones getting released i.e. Long Distance Runner (did they _choose_ the Marcus Garvey cos of this link?), PocketBook Angel etc? And especially Modern Rock Song? Or are they staying as Bootlegs forever? Cheers, Mark +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gmckay at xxx.com Thu Sep 10 15:26:25 1998 From: gmckay at xxx.com (Gillian McKay) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:26:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: cover star Message-ID: <35F7E190.20D1@roisin.ayo.dec.com> did anyone else notice the very last line on the back cover of the new album.... "The title of this record in no way refers to the cover star, by the way" made me laugh!! Anyone know who the guy on the cover is? Every time i look at it, it reminds me of L**m G***acher from that shitty "britpop" group. Who were they again? thats all folks gillian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Thu Sep 10 16:04:40 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:04:40 EDT Subject: Sinister: Can anyone in US burn me a Tigermilk CD? Message-ID: Right, I'm big and grown up now, I think it's my turn to answer this one. Look, Jeepster and the band are very sweet in turning a blind eye to the exchange of *tape* copies of Tigermilk, as long as it's not for profit. But, as we all know, it is illegal to bootleg albums, even if they are as life affirming as that album is. And the point is, a cd-r of the LP is a bit too professional, and bit too easily reproducable for Jeepster to ignore. So, to all newbies, please don't shout about making CD-Rs on the list, if you must do it, 'cause things get uncomfortable, and David + Katrina have to stop being lovely bunnies, and get serious. Which no-body wants. It's happened too many times before. It's going to come out again sooner or later, on CD, so please be patient, and put up with your scratchy old tape dub for a bit longer, like everyone else :-) God, that was a but sensible. seb (who's nearly finished that review. just a bit of polishing left, some nfinitives to stick back together, etc.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rbegbi at xxx.com Thu Sep 10 16:20:36 1998 From: rbegbi at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:20:36 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Business Proposal Message-ID: (please ignore the headers -- It's just so that people noseying at my Outbox don't get suspicious) Some more stuff rattling around my brain: 1. No offence to the officials on this list, but I thought that the T-shirts on sale were kind of dull. When I saw someone in a IYFS shirt before hand, I assumed it was a bootleg. The bus and dancing shirts were funky, original and imaginative. But just putting the record sleeve on a shirt isn't. (Although I did pay £3 for a bootleg shirt outside the gig, because I thought that they were just the funniest things ever. A massive number 7 on the back, for no apparent reason. Any suggestions as to what it stood for?) 2. Doing a DejaNews search for "Belle and Sebastian" gets you a few adverts for live bootlegs. "People" may be interested. 3. I only realised last week that "I Don't Love Anyone" doesn't promote the use of concealment tactics. "If there's one thing that I learned when I was still a child, it was too take up hiding." Not funny, but it is true. 4. Gig review in Grauniad today. 5. Two nuns driving along, when Dracula jumps onto their windscreen. "Quick, show him your cross", says Nun One. So Nun Two goes "Fuck off Dracula - I'm not in the mood." 6. Someone I know is a stand-up comedian, who has been trying quite hard to "get it on" with a young lady friend. So I forwarded him that wee bit out of DirtyDream#2. He didn't find it funny. 7. So who's going to be the first to post their 10 biggest wanks? Rod. -- Rod Begbie Work: rbegbi at sapient.com Play: rod at begbie.com There's no such thing as "young". They just treat us wrong. I had a friend who died. I had another friend who stayed alive. -- Urusei Yatsura, "Amber" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From janine at xxx.com Thu Sep 10 18:10:40 1998 From: janine at xxx.com (Janine Papp) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:10:40 -0500 Subject: Sinister: I'm abusing the list Message-ID: hey darling sinsisterines I'm sorry to abuse the list like this, but I need some help for my zine and I thought, who better to turn to? There's going to be a really funny advice column in the next issue. Surely some of you need some advice??? You can ask Belle and Sebastian related questions, in fact I encourage it. So please read on. Hello there Temple of Sting needs your letters ASAP for ASK SCHAP, the first T.O.S. advice column! You can ASK SCHAP about ANYTHING from why your car won't run to why is the sky blue, to what's this itchy spot on my leg, to why does Satan pick on me? so, please submit your questions! You can send e-mail to Temple of Sting at beesting at popstar.com, e-mail Schap at schap at mute.com, or write to TOS at Po Box 357, Murray Hill Station, New York, NY 10156. All letters will remain anonymous! For more information, visit the Temple of Sting website at http://members.tripod.com/~JanineBee Janine Papp Queen Bee of the Temple of Sting +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From suzsch at xxx.net Thu Sep 10 17:42:46 1998 From: suzsch at xxx.net (Suzanne Schroeder) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:42:46 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Ink polaroid Message-ID: <199809101639.LAA03940@smtp1.mailsrvcs.net> There's me at work at the TV station running episodes of Charlie's Angels. The woman next to me running the programming for the Fox affiliate discovers she has a screwed up tape of Sally. She barks "fuck fuck fuck" over and over again. Sometimes I wonder if she does that not because a huge boo boo happened. I think she does it actually asking someone to......well, never mind. At that point, I was nearly drifting off to sleep, but then remembered it's only a few more hours until I get out and get my Belle and Sebastian album. There's me in my car. I had just bought the Belle and Sebastian album and am listening to it in the CD player. I have plenty of time since I'm battling the evil rush hour traffic. I realize later on that afternoon that my CD player is in "random" mode and not playing things in album order. It is during a later playing that I notice the band does their usual or signature intro (depending on what word you want to use, and how big and important you think they are) of starting with acapella singing then quickly building. Nevertheless, this is the present and I immediately like "Is it Wicked Not to care." I can't say why. Let's just leave it at that. I'm sick of trying to put in my own words why I like anything because it comes out with some critical bull crap......I know I'll change my mind later on this stance, so I don't know why I'm writing it here. My favorite is the title song, but I realized something eerie....a few months ago, I had almost written a song with the same melodic line. I kept thinking "this sounds familiar, where have I heard this before?" It happened that it was one of those songs where I envisioned a different melody line than the one that came out. I don't know what to make of Seymore Stein. This one worries me. Is this the point in their song that they turn into Morrissey by adopting the philosophy "I'm not going to talk to someone and deal with them on a human level, I'm just going to publish a song about them on albums for the world to see." ? I remember reading once during the height of Moz's war with the media back around 92 that he would only deal with the media "through his songs" and now fans have to listen to great songs like Speedway ruined by the self pity of a rock star. I know most big stars have that special song or album dedicated to how they were shat apon by the record industry, but for the most part, fandom doesn't want to hear it. It's much easier for people to get excited about "Get me away from here I'm dying" where everyone has dreams about escaping. Maybe it's why most bands last only a few years losing their relavancy to the masses. Maybe it's why poetry in general has lost any chance of mass appeal and is only left for dank coffee houses. It's just words for a few people. I happen to catch the tail end of a local slam and noticed that there are more poems about what it's like to be on stage or how they stretch words beyond the realms of meaning than there is actually any poems on anything useful. They forget who their audience should be and only work to please the same people they see everyday. Afterall, at this point, good criticism from their peers means something because their peers "are poets" and can hook them up with better events and book deals while everyone else is a Zombie who just doesn't get it. Thumbs up anyway....it proves that they are able to overcome many people's expectation of stagnation. s.s. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Julie_Smith at xxx.com Thu Sep 10 17:35:14 1998 From: Julie_Smith at xxx.com (Julie_Smith at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:35:14 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Here's to hoping Message-ID: <8825667B.005A207C.00@circus.med.iacnet.com> Hi all, I was wondering if there was anyone on the list who might know how I could get a taped copy of Tigermilk (to hold me over.) If someone could tape it for me (!!) I'd definitely get you back in terms of postage and all that jazz. I live in the San Francisco bay area, so logistically the closer to me the better. Or perhaps somebody could tell me where I might find one . . . I feel a bit strange addressing so many people at once so forgive me for rambling, but basically, I'm interested in Tigermilk info. Thanks everybody, Julie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Thu Sep 10 17:51:44 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:51:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Can anyone in US burn me a Tigermilk CD? References: Message-ID: <35F803A0.D4E63150@jeepster.co.uk> thanks for taking care of that for us :) -- Funkyseb at aol.com wrote: > > Right, I'm big and grown up now, I think it's my turn to answer this one. > Look, Jeepster and the band are very sweet in turning a blind eye to the > exchange of *tape* copies of Tigermilk, as long as it's not for profit. > But, as we all know, it is illegal to bootleg albums, even if they are as life > affirming as that album is. And the point is, a cd-r of the LP is a bit too > professional, and bit too easily reproducable for Jeepster to ignore. > So, to all newbies, please don't shout about making CD-Rs on the list, if you > must do it, 'cause things get uncomfortable, and David + Katrina have to stop > being lovely bunnies, and get serious. Which no-body wants. It's happened too > many times before. > It's going to come out again sooner or later, on CD, so please be > patient, and put up with your scratchy old tape dub for a bit longer, like > everyone else :-) > > God, that was a but sensible. > seb > (who's nearly finished that review. just a bit of polishing left, some > nfinitives to stick back together, etc.) > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nickdastoor at xxx.com Thu Sep 10 18:12:15 1998 From: nickdastoor at xxx.com (Nick Dastoor) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: 'What makes Molly cry' Competition Message-ID: <19980910171215.24339.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> Molly confessed: >And I cried during two of the songs. Prize to anyone who can guess >which two. My vote goes to 'The Boy with the Arab Strap' and 'Is it Wicked not to Care?' Did anyone else spot Stuart whisper 'That was gorgeous' to Isobel after she finished the song in London? I think it was that, although I'm not a professional lip reader. It might have been 'Gosh that last line is pish - you know I only allowed it on the album to make my line about stroke victims wetting themselves for the last time look good'. I don't quite see why that line is so good, Martin. But then I always thought that 'Keeping her face in a jar that she keeps my the door' was pretty overrated too. Actually, to add weight to the argument that not everyone agrees about which songs rule and which are poor, I don't much like ICHBABC at all. Seems a bit B&S by numbers to me. If every album has to start with an unaccompanied vocal, I'd prefer 'instant classic' 'A Summer Wasting'. In fact, I think this problem that Brad, Duke and Co. have with the cohesiveness of the album could be solved with some judicious track order rearranging. 'Simple Things' definitely seems out of place too. But what do I know? What I Know, by Nicholas Dastoor 'Sleep the Clock Around' makes me go all funny. I never cared much for the session version, but now it sounds like the most singular, butterflies-inducing recording in the history of pop music. When I heard it for the first time it made me feel like the band were pointing the way to an extraordinarily ambitious, expectation-confounding album. It didn't quite work out that way, but still, what a track. The song 'The Boy with the Arab Strap' is, as I'm sure you all know, so exciting and clever all at once that it makes me cry (see above). But what you might not know is that it is best heard on a Walkman striding through the London Underground system. I had an elaborate gag worked out to poke fun at that review that complained that the Nick Drake lift was a sign that the band were turning into rock-reverence bores. However, our man in Spain has somewhat stolen my thunder, so I shan't bother. Instead I shall simply attempt to score rock-reverence points by pointing out the Rolling Stones references in the not-quite-up-to-scratch 'Chick Factor'. I had lots of fun in Leeds. When did all this autograph hunting go on? After a trip to the the loo I lost everyone for a bit then spotted dreamy Keith doing his thing in the Nothern Soul room. Up I gamboled and joined in, and it was a while before I looked up and realised that I was dancing with half the band. There's a thing, I thought. Didn't speak to them, although I did offer the grumpy keyboardist a cigarette, which he accepted with a shrug. Or maybe it was a frug. Hello to everyone I met - you are all very sweet. Sarah said I was an ace dancer, for which she gains extra points. Stuart Gardiner owes me a tenner for which he loses points. I hung around till long after everyone had gone away so I could catch the first train home, because I am a cheapskate and also wanted to see how hard I was. I am sad that I was too busy being a social butterfly that I didn't get a chance to see anyone from the list in London. The sound was fine at the front. Next time, to ensure everyone gets a chance to hear the songs *and* look up Mick's kilt, I suggest we form a human pyramid, with Sarah and her wand at the top. I probably agree that unless the band are to turn into rock beasts, devise elaborate dance routines, or abandon their habit of playing musical chairs betwen songs, any venue larger that this would not be work very well. Bring on the boats. Never mind audiophile production values. To me, the dangerous signs of professionalism are most clearly shown by the blatant use of PHOTOCOPIERS to produce multiple set lists for the band. This must stop. Stuart Murdoch was giving me the eye throughout, and gave me a michievous look whilst delivering the line `Ooh, I'll settle down with some old story about a boy who's just like me'. This might not be true. Nick xxx _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sha0801l at xxx.uk Thu Sep 10 18:20:47 1998 From: sha0801l at xxx.uk (McDougal) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:20:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Last Monday Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980910182047.0068c2b0@194.238.147.3> Dear everyone, I'm glad to be back after a summer away. I was one of the lucky people to attend the sellout London show on Monday night, shortly after purchasing the album. I was the one in the bright red Hawian shirt with flowers on it, yo-yo-ing outside, singing along at the front, hoping for that signed copy of Tigermilk, and also the one, who got maybe the only intact copy of the playlist from Stuart David at the end. Did anyone take pictures. I did. I got them back today, and I must say most of them are pretty damn good, I've got Stuart Murdoch strumming up a storm, Stevie J. swaying, the beautiful Isobel delivering the phenomenal ' Is it wicked not to care', and I still have to develop and print my black and white ones. On Tuesday morning I had a lovely cup of tea from my new B&S mug. The Huge poster dominates my wall. Well done to Belle and Sebastian on an amazing 3rd album. I am Happy as I dwell in the aftermath of "Britain's best band". If there was a sequel Would you love me as an equal? Would you love me 'till I die?........... d o u g +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sha0801l at xxx.uk Thu Sep 10 18:25:43 1998 From: sha0801l at xxx.uk (McDougal) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:25:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Monday 7th Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980910182543.0068e934@194.238.147.3> Dear everyone, I'm glad to be back after a summer away. I was one of the lucky people to attend the sellout London show on Monday night, shortly after purchasing the album. I was the one in the bright red Hawian shirt with flowers on it, yo-yo-ing outside, singing along at the front, hoping for that signed copy of Tigermilk, and also the one, who got maybe the only intact copy of the playlist from Stuart David at the end. Did anyone take pictures. I did. I got them back today, and I must say most of them are pretty damn good, I've got Stuart Murdoch strumming up a storm, Stevie J. swaying, the beautiful Isobel delivering the phenomenal ' Is it wicked not to care', and I still have to develop and print my black and white ones. On Tuesday morning I had a lovely cup of tea from my new B&S mug. The Huge poster dominates my wall. Well done to Belle and Sebastian on an amazing 3rd album. I am Happy as I dwell in the aftermath of "Britain's best band". If there was a sequel Would you love me as an equal? Would you love me 'till I die?........... d o u g +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk Thu Sep 10 18:32:22 1998 From: Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk (Sarah Wheeler) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:32:22 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: I could do with a 'D' Message-ID: <199809101732.SAA05232@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk> >On Tuesday morning I had a lovely cup of tea from my new B&S mug. Awwwwww, I want a mug............is there any chance that we'll be able to buy these from the on-line shop soon??? Sarah x ======================= Sarah Wheeler Room 106 West Medical Building University of Glasgow GLASGOW G12 8QQ 0141-339 8855 ext.2860 ======================= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tangent at xxx.net Thu Sep 10 17:53:45 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:53:45 +0100 Subject: Sinister: unreleased do-dahs References: <1132.199809101348@owl.le.ac.uk> Message-ID: <35F80419.28A42699@lineone.net> mjh18 at leicester.ac.uk wrote: > And yeah, when are those unreleased ones getting released i.e. Long Distance > Runner (did they _choose_ the Marcus Garvey cos of this link?), PocketBook Angel > etc? And especially Modern Rock Song? Or are they staying as Bootlegs forever? word is that they haven't released Middle Distance Runner because they've not managed to get a good recording done yet. ithink that's sad because the three different versions i've heard all sound divine. it really is still one of my all time b&S faves, despite the fact that the notts rendition was a little shabby in comparison to other hearings. Pocketbook Angel 'etc' i very much doubt will ever get 'official' releases as they are pre-Tigermilk demos. Modern Rock Song? god knows. it's also a top tune. What about the stuff that didn't make it to the LP? Wrong Love anyone? Nad the instrumental Tigermilk? Rhoda? I Know Where The Summer Goes? Are these slated for EP release soon? D&K tell us all!! hope my witterings helped someone. the duke -- 'all of our dreams are dying of overdoses' Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Thu Sep 10 18:41:24 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:41:24 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: mash it up harry (hey isn't that very rude too?) Message-ID: Oh lordy lumme girl and boys, what a lot of messages and what a lot of new people. My little sinister machine is all sweaty and gasping and mopping its little silicon forehead and flapping its wings (it has wings). Still, it's to be expected seeing we've all been "doing something" in the last week. My response is to post one massive message, so my apologies in advance I actually do feel a little guilty. Well I have such a lot to say that all I'm going to murmur about the music-hall experience that was B&S was that Mick did indeed wear a kilt, just like on the LP (can't you *hear* it??). And that the whole thing was pretty magical, even if London was a little sticky. It sounded fine from where I was (I was at Manchester on the Saturday, and I remember thinking it sounded like I was inside an eggbox). And that I've entered into litigation over John Johnson's wicked insinuations. Hello to everyone new on the list, please read the WWW pages before you get grumbled at and try and keep the list content special - if you don't know who Sir Cliff is yet, you haven't done quite enough homework :) Hello to everyone I met at the concerts! This whole list-thing constantly amazes me, so if I looked a bit baffled in London it was nice-baffled not smarmy-baffled. Oh and thank you to my house-guests for being such nice guests! Sarah, you kick arse and all sorts of other things, and Oon, love those pyjamas. You all make my yoyo spin. Some other stuff from the lucky dip between my ears: 1. Seymour Stein. What a load of nonsense. Not the song, which I love, but the reviews. Why don't they listen to the words? There's no sneering whatsoever of little Seymour in the song, nor has he nicked Stevie's girl (for God's sake). Stevie's just wondering why he's having to do the washing-up when everyone else is eating chicken tikka massala with Steiny, and he's musing on whether such a rich man can get his girl back for him. Seems reasonable to me, it's just like Jim'll Fix It (for non UK readers, oh never mind :) 2. Why is everyone saying P!O!O! Who's saying P!O!O! and who's saying the other word now? I can't tell. 3. Philippe asked if B&S covered any other Gainsbourg - not that I know of. They did "Poupee de cire" at the Gainsbourg concert in Edinburgh this year, so they didn't have to do much homework - I think it was Isobel's replacement for "The Gate" which didn't quite work in Glasgow (see the archives at.. oh, see the archives). 4. Sorry to all digesters for the mess while I was away. For one blissful moment you thought no-one was posting didn't you? Well you're all very patient, no-one demanded their money back. 5. How does Aurore know about me and quasars? Do we have astronomer stalkers on the list? How exciting! Did you know Stuart Murdoch wanted to be one before he became a variety act? 6. The cover star of TWITSRUS is wee keyboarding Chris, being prodded by Mick's big stick sword. Chris's list detractors will be surprised to learn that he's a number one pin-up according to someone nice in Glasgow. 7. If no-one answered Tara, from memory the people in the Select photo are Stevie, Isobel and Stuart-with-longer-hair, with Mick sitting behind. 8. I don't know much about P!O!O!P!, but I must say the new Lambchop LP is quite a thing too. I *do* however have trouble "comparing" it to the B&S LP. Maybe my critical faculties are blunted, but isn't the special thing about B&S that they're "in-here" somehow, when everyone else, no matter how good, still seems to sound "out-there"? Maybe it's the list, but I have a distinct memory that I felt this the moment I heard them. Their songs attach themselves to me like limpets, and it's funny how this seems to happen on the fourth or fifth listen. I don't know why no other band seems to do this. No, I don't know what I mean either. I think I mean they're very special. 9: You know when Stuart's voice goes a little croaky and nasal in Ease Your Sheep Into Mike Leigh? I come out in a sweat and have to suck a mint. Does everyone else have to too? Appendix A: I think I earned a diversion: can someone who lives nearer the Thames explain to me what Ian Dury means by "Wembley"? Well I can guess what he means, even for an innocent blushing little flower, but I don't know how he... gets there. I quote from his quite fabulous and probably last LP, "Mr Love Pants", the track "Mash It Up Harry": "He's got his little y-fronts and he's got his little vest He's got his little parting in his hair He's got his little trousers and he's got his little shoes And he wants a bit of Wembley up his you-know-where He's got his little garden and he's got his little shed He's got his little mower on the grass He's got his little garage and he's got his little car And he wants a bit of Wembley up his Khyber Pass" honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From calnd at xxx.uk Thu Sep 10 18:46:37 1998 From: calnd at xxx.uk (Chris Leonard) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:46:37 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Competition Results! Message-ID: Dear puds, I have returned home from my B&S/Sinister package tour, feeling physicallly drained but a spiritual stonner. What a wonderful time. I'm ripping the virginity from my mick cooke mug as I type, I am. Now listen, I think I have quite a lot of things I have to say this evening, please humour me, and forgive me If I annoy you. First things first, the competition. Thanks to everyone who entered. The results are: In equal last place: 20. duke 24 20. Tim Hopkins 24 20. kevan cooke 24 Unlucky boys. But seeing as Tim was so lovely to me and julia thoughout the last week, and kevan was a decent chap too, I have to promote them from last place. Which means Duke, you are in last place proper and the overall belle and sebastian fantasy song league loser. 19. Peter Miller 25 (Unlucky , but at least you bet the duke.) 18. oon 30 15. Calumn Shearer 32 15. paul mitchell 32 15. Julia 32 12. Rod Begbie 34 12. ronan barrett 34 12. Adrian Evans 34 11. matt Bcapirigi 35 10. R.O. Jenkins 37 8 . Linda Kerr 39 8. FunkySeb 39 6. Derek Martin 41 6. John Johnstone 41 And the top of the bunch, who scored more than twice what the duke scored: 4. Declan McGurk 49 4. Joss Moorkens 49 3. Andrew Grant 50 Boys, boys see how close you were! Very very close. Hard Lines. 1. Steve Genge 51 1. peter larsson 51 Oh! We have a tie break situation!!!!! It's between Peter and Steve!. But I didn't tell you what was going to happen in a tie break situation, did I? Here's what shall happen in a tie break situation. I shall ask a question and the one of you who gives me the nearest answer wins. I shall announce the winner to the list. In the chance that one of you is away and not near a computer, I shall give two weeks before declaring the other bloke victor. Here is the question: Belle and Sebastian have a manager called Neil. He is only 12 years old, but remarkably hairy for one so young. He has two sideburns, one by each ear, which he can use as a pulley device to shift the bands equipment. I know for a fact how many hairs are in each of Neils boards, what I need you to tell me is the total number of sideburn hairs on Neils face (to the nearest ten thousand). Best of Luck. christopher +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Thu Sep 10 18:47:05 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:47:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I could do with a 'D' References: <199809101732.SAA05232@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk> Message-ID: <35F81099.EEFB57C5@jeepster.co.uk> the mugs should be on-line very soon, we're just awaiting the packaging for them , when we know they'll be safe i'll pu tthem up :) -- Sarah Wheeler wrote: > > >On Tuesday morning I had a lovely cup of tea from my new B&S mug. > > Awwwwww, I want a mug............is there any chance that we'll be able to > buy these from the on-line shop soon??? -- david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From coool_air at xxx.com Thu Sep 10 19:06:06 1998 From: coool_air at xxx.com (Claire Timmins) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:06:06 PDT Subject: Sinister: hmmm Message-ID: <19980910180606.14037.qmail@hotmail.com> This may have been questioned and even replied to but who is providing the vocals on A Space boy dream, it doesn't sound like Stuart. Oh this is very exciting, I'm slap bang in the middle of listening to the album for the first time. 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From: Katrina House Subject: Re: Sinister: cover star Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:54:47 +0100 Size: 1273 URL: From Niceaction at xxx.com Thu Sep 10 19:31:19 1998 From: Niceaction at xxx.com (Niceaction at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:31:19 EDT Subject: Sinister: From the UK to US Message-ID: <1df60a85.35f81af7@aol.com> Hiya all. Wooooo Hooooo I got my tickets for the NY gig today. It would be cool if someone could arrange a meet up before the concert and i could get to know a few of you Americans.. In all this excitment i haven't booked any time off of work, God, they had better give me it or i'll have to walk out and be unemployed !! and i havent made any travel arrangements.. If any of you NYorkers know of any half descent hotels quite near to the Supper Club, i would be most gratefull... ooooh im so excited im almost peeing my pants !!! Take it easy everyone Jamie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From troyh at xxx.com Thu Sep 10 20:49:52 1998 From: troyh at xxx.com (Troy Hakala (Exchange)) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:49:52 -0700 Subject: Sinister: New album & MusicBlvd.com Message-ID: i ordered the new b&s cd from musicblvd.com (i'm in the US) on aug 21 and they claimed to have a guarantee to ship it by the release date (sept 8). i got mail on sept 9 saying that the cd is backordered and i'll have to wait for 2-3 weeks to get it. has anyone else had this problem with musicblvd? anyone order it online from cdnow or another vendor? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Fri Sep 11 21:20:13 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:20:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: London's not let me down Message-ID: <199809102026.VAA17043@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Having been reading about everyones views on the London gig I thought that I would add my views. Despite everyone moaning about the lack of volume, I thought that it was just about perfect, any louder and I'm sure that a lot of the songs would have lost that special quality. Admittedly DirtyDream and Spaceboy Dream can be played at volume, but Belle and Sebastian is such a fragile song (if songs can be fragile) that it needed to be played quietly. And besides, if it had been louder then people wouldn't have needed to let out that huge chorus of ssssssshhhhhhh! Which was pretty cool. I'm another of those people who missed out on meeting you all in the pub, I got to the gig just as the doors were openning so I thought I'd join the cue then, too much traffic on the motorway up. Sorry, hopefully I'll meet you all next time. (Although I have my suspicions that i was queueing in front of doug. Were you talking to a girl about some party that you had been to over the weekend? If so I was the one in front of you in the beige top, with a couple of mates) Am I the only person who fell instantly in love with Isobell during her rendition of Is It Wicked..? And that outfit, very cute. And The last song. Better stop there, my girlfriend wouldn't approve. And as for the celebrety claims to fame, I sat a couple of rows behind George Dawes on level1 and when on a visit to the bar Ian Broudie held the door open for me! Oh and one last point can I just say what a complete wanker the bloke was who was heckling the band from the top left balcony at the start of the show. WankerWankerWankerWankerWanker. Now that should be enough, just don't do it again or I'm sure stuartm will sort you out. (I know its not anyone on the list but i had to get my anger out at them somewhere-sorry) Oh and the very last point (i promise) did anyone tape the concert ( naughty ,naughty if you did but i won't tell if you don't), its just i desperately want a recording of it, and if I can't find one here I doubt i ever will. Cheers then Meet you next time Jake Ps ed sorry about, not getting that tape to you, had to sort out exam results before i went away, and just didn't have time. pps The new Mercury Rev album is great +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SpaceboyUK at xxx.com Thu Sep 10 22:20:45 1998 From: SpaceboyUK at xxx.com (SpaceboyUK at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:20:45 EDT Subject: Sinister: after careful re-listening to the LP......... Message-ID: <1fe28474.35f842ad@aol.com> after a few listenings of the new album i realized that there are a few songs that i dont like much. they are good songs,just maybe not to my certain liking, according to the rest of the album. "Chickfactor" & "Rollercoaster Ride" The BEST songs (in my opinion) on the album are: "It could've been a brilliant career" "Sleep the Clock Around" "Is It Wicked not to care" "A summer wasting" "Dirty Dream #2" "Boy With The Arab Strap" & "Simple Things" "space boy dream" i had heard (well a different version-but much alike) on the LOOPER 7'' so it was no surprise,but i like it. sorry if this mail was no use to you,but i thought maybe some people would like my opinion,or at least like to hear my opinion,due to a bored day and nothing to do. -a.james +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From EvnDando at xxx.com Thu Sep 10 21:58:44 1998 From: EvnDando at xxx.com (EvnDando at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:58:44 EDT Subject: Sinister: Help please (pathetic sad look) Message-ID: Is there anyone going to the new york shows or the chicago show thats willing to take a kid named paul who cant drive i am 18 though i just dont drive id really really love to go i live in ohio, mahoning valley area and i dunno if anyone is willing and driving through or something let me know or whatever thanks paul +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SpaceboyUK at xxx.com Thu Sep 10 23:40:00 1998 From: SpaceboyUK at xxx.com (SpaceboyUK at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:40:00 EDT Subject: Sinister: B&S sessions 98 Message-ID: <1ccb6c74.35f85540@aol.com> have there beenany recent B&S sessions on the radio? and if anyone has taped them,could you tape them for me? i so love sessions! thank you. -a.james - loving the new LP +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From thunderw at xxx.uk Fri Sep 11 00:18:41 1998 From: thunderw at xxx.uk (James) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 00:18:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: tears Message-ID: Nick wrote: "Molly confessed: >And I cried during two of the songs. Prize to anyone who can guess >which two. My vote goes to 'The Boy with the Arab Strap' and 'Is it Wicked not to Care?' " wrong on both counts Nick. sorry. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From emason at xxx.com Thu Sep 10 23:17:18 1998 From: emason at xxx.com (Ed Mason) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:17:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Chart positions and things Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980910231718.006b0830@mail.u-net.com> Mark asked; >I'm off to HMV to buy my third ...Arab Strap today - it's for my mum, >who's crazy about the B&S experience. Any news on the midweek chart >position? The rumour I heard was that it currently nestles at number 8 in the UK album charts, which may of course be wildly inaccurate but the person who I gleaned it from assures me he's seen the mid-week positions....I guess a lot of people will have rushed out and bought it in the first couple of days so we might have the inevitable falling off in sales towards the end of the week...but then again it could continue on an irresistible rise to its rightful position... Aurore wrote; >Then this bloke comes up with his tape-recorder and says he's writing an >article about how mad B&S fans are (he didn't quite put it like this, and >said something more like "I'd like to interview people who'd come from far >away for the gig") and I ask if it's for a fanzine and he says it's for the >Melody Maker... So we went on raving about how good B&S are. But, ok, enough >of that. Mmmm, as someone also collared by said journalist at Nottingham along with Tim, Mike and Pam, I'm assured that the journalist, Ian Watson, is an obsessive Belle and Sebastian fan and thoroughly nice chap and as a consequence unlikely to do any stitching up. Which may come as a relief to some. Although Tim was assured that in the past as we know... And why do I still have a sense of foreboding as Wednesday approaches... Have I made errors? By the way I have a pair of Tim Hopkins' very own generously proportioned underpants at my house, left after the Leeds gig, and stained with Belle and Sebastian-induced sweat I'll wager, ooh, the very thought leaves me a-quivering, perhaps I should devise a competition or somesuch...then those who didn't make it to Leeds can attempt to relive the experience by standing in a fellow-listees 'attire', large mug of beer in hand and befuddled yet joyous expression de rigeur of course. Good to meet everyone at the gigs last week, I shan't attempt any further reviews as these seem to have been more than adequately addressed, but Leeds was undeniably and incontrovertibly amazing, fabulous, awe-inspiring and a truly wonderous thing. Love to all Ed +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bilner at xxx.com Fri Sep 11 01:50:39 1998 From: bilner at xxx.com (bilner) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:50:39 -0700 Subject: Sinister: OK, can anyone in US dub me a hissy cassette of Tigermilk, demos, etc.? Message-ID: Taking to heart the freshly stated (and seconded) policy of the label, I hereby revise my request. It's for personal use only, believe me, I'm hyping the new LP to everyone I know, but they all think I've gone all foppish on them, rambling on about the second coming off the early Kinks and Zombies... BTW, I've plenty of cool tapes to trade. Bilner +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From monroej at xxx.com Fri Sep 11 03:56:21 1998 From: monroej at xxx.com (John F. Monroe) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:56:21 -0700 Subject: Sinister: a tiny mention of B&S on MTV awards show Message-ID: <025401bddd2f$c3186840$b850cfa9@monroej.execpc> after the Hole performance on the MTV awards ( which was odd, as courtney went into a little bit of rem's 'pretty persuasion' at the very end ), they had this Matt Pinfield impersonator talking to Beck, sending up Pinfield. He was sort of charting Beck's sound through mentioning loads of other bands, etc, ("from The Weavers up to the 13th Floor Elevators, taking a stop at kansas...") and ended with something like ' and all the way up to Belle and Sebastian'. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jmurphy at xxx.Edu Fri Sep 11 02:02:14 1998 From: jmurphy at xxx.Edu (Jessica Murphy) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:02:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: b & s mention on mtv Message-ID: OK, so I'm sitting here watching the MTV Video Music Awards... And just a little while ago, Ben Stiller, as the host, was dressed up like VJ Matt Pinfield and pretending to interview Beck. He reeled off a list of dozens of Beck's "influences" -- ENDing with Belle & Sebastian. I jumped. Maybe someone else just saw this and registered more of the whole joke. Weird, anyway... Good night... xo jessica m +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nicola4230 at xxx.com Fri Sep 11 05:39:34 1998 From: Nicola4230 at xxx.com (Nicola4230 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 00:39:34 EDT Subject: Sinister: Re: a tiny mention of B&S on MTV awards show Message-ID: <85e822ca.35f8a986@aol.com> <> snip<> Wasn't that amazing!! Being the the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling saddoe I am I too jumped up and down in excitement and then by reflex ran to the pooter to share the moment....oh but y'all beat me didn't you? Well cherish this moment chickadees as it will probably be the only time ever we will see mention of them at the VMAs. (which is probably for the best!) ben stiller, whatta man, whatta man whatta mighty good man tata, Tara +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grabutcho at xxx.com Fri Sep 11 08:46:44 1998 From: grabutcho at xxx.com (Julien Boëldieu) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 00:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: I LOVE "Rollercoaster ride" Message-ID: <19980911074644.17763.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com> Hello everyone ! I've got a few questions, suggestions or observations : 1. When Stevie sings on "Seymour Stein" : "He reminded you of Johnny Before he went Electronic" does he mean Johnny Marr ? 2. Although I'm used to listening it billions of times a day since saturday, I only noticed this morning the piano in the final of "Dirty dream #2". Great moment. 3. "If you're feeling sinister" lasts the right time : neither too long nor too short. "The boy with the Arab strap" is to me too short. 4. Don't you think that Belle and Sebastian should write and play an whole album for Morrissey (which has not sung a single good song since the marvelous "Vauxhall and I", ie 1994), another one for David Bowie and one more for Lou Reed ? 5. I don't know why lots of people complain of "The rollercoaster ride" : too long, too monotonous, etc. Mmmm... What they need is a REAL rollercoaster ride ! Am I the only one who thinks that it's not a good but a GREAT song, one of the greatest in the album, just perfect as it is ? Write me and join the Association for the "Rollecoaster ride" defence !!!!!!!! 6. "Awful" by Hole (on the new album) is beautiful. And Melissa Auf der Maur absolutely charming. Bye, Julien _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tim.groves at xxx.uk Fri Sep 11 09:58:00 1998 From: tim.groves at xxx.uk (Tim Groves) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:58:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: live taping at athens Message-ID: as far as I know live taping is legalish in Italy - If ANYONE has a boot of Mondays gig at the shepherds bush empire please let me know. I'll pay or swap for whatever tim +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mjh18 at xxx.uk Fri Sep 11 10:11:55 1998 From: mjh18 at xxx.uk (mjh18 at xxx.uk) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:11:55 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Yr Questions Answered In-Reply-To: <19980911074644.17763.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com> from "Julien "Bokldieu" at Sep 11, 98 00:46:44 am Message-ID: <21323.199809110911@owl.le.ac.uk> Monosyllabularity is the new rock and roll... > 1. When Stevie sings on "Seymour Stein" : > "He reminded you of Johnny > Before he went Electronic" > does he mean Johnny Marr ? yes > 3. "If you're feeling sinister" lasts the right time : neither too > long nor too short. "The boy > with the Arab strap" is to me too short. no, it is just right. more songs does not make a disc more good. lots of such things these days go on for far far far too long. 45 mins is just right. > 4. Don't you think that Belle and Sebastian should write and play an > whole album for > Morrissey no. they could help him get his hair cut tho. > (which has not sung a single good song since the marvelous > "Vauxhall and I", ie 1994) true. Cheers, Mark +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tim.groves at xxx.uk Fri Sep 11 10:15:00 1998 From: tim.groves at xxx.uk (Tim Groves) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:15:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: more uk shows? Message-ID: I am sure I read that after the US they will play a national tour in November - after monday I am hungry for more.( especially after waiting two years to get to see them) does anyone know more about this ? tim +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Fri Sep 11 10:31:16 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:31:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Midweek Message-ID: <35F8EDE4.DA9107FD@jeepster.co.uk> Hi all, well, i've been attacked again for information and i dunno whether this should all remain confidential or not, but our midweek (as of yesterday - ie sales for mon, tues + wed) is .... 7. can you believe it? " ... sinister" never even got inside the top 75 and here we are looking at a ... well, a hit i suppose! however, we're likely to be taken over by something as banal as simply red or mike oldfield ... so, it'll be a fight with hole to stay inside the top 10. anyone not bought 3 copies yet? ... :) cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kcooke at xxx.uk Fri Sep 11 10:21:00 1998 From: kcooke at xxx.uk (Kevan Cooke) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:21:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: A Summer Wasted on Tigermilk Message-ID: Mark said: > Please don't anyone EVER try drinking Tigermilk "wine" just because > of the name - it is like THUNDERBIRD but with a pound of sugar stirred > in. Eesh. Now some of you might be able to guess what I am about to say... Lutomer Tigermilk is one of ours! One of the perks at work is that I can get bottles of Tigermilk cheap! But I don't like sweet wine, so I don't. Seymour Stein is about the trip to New York covered in Staurt David's Little Ink Movie isn't it? The one where Stevie couldn't go because of real life? Honey is right, the reviews are pish. The Grauniad review of Shepherds Bush looks like it was written by someone who didn't manage to get hold of a ticket and guessed what it was like - full of pale youths apparently. On TWATTYBUS (thanks Sister Disco) there a few places where the lyrics on the sleeve are slightly different to those actually sung, but hasn't Stuart just got it wrong when he sings "seven years of river walkways" instead of "seven weeks..." during A Summer Wasting? If you listen real hard you can actually hear him thinking "Shit, I messed that up, if I just carry on perhaps no one will notice" Kevan The Fat Slug +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Fri Sep 11 12:28:08 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:28:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Should I go to NY? Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E221F3FBE@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Okay, here goes... I am toying with the idea of taking a few days off and flying to NYC for one or both of the gigs. I would greatly appreciate any encouragement, cajoling and advice, as I know no-one (that I can think of) in New York, and feel a bit like a small furry animal trying to contemplate quantum physics about the whole caboodle. But I haven't been on holiday in 3 years, have never been to the States, and reckon this may be the last great opportunity of my youth. Please, please mail me privately if you have anything at all to say or suggest. So obviously if I do take a big breath and go for it, I'll second Niceaction's desire to meet up with some of you - I promise I'm not as snappy in real life as I may have been on occasion on the list :-) So write, my friends, and hopefully I'll meet some more of you soon...? Take care, beautiful people, Mark +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dunphyk at xxx.com Fri Sep 11 13:10:49 1998 From: dunphyk at xxx.com (Dunphy, Kevin) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:10:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Strap: Changes to us Message-ID: Should we be, like, changing with the times man and be called the Strap list from now on. This would be highly ironic for me personally as I am highly strapped for spondulics at the the moments and my ever expanding beer belly snapped my fake plastic belt this morning. Anyway I don't give a flying coz it Friday and I have a feeling I'm going to meet my eventual wife this weekend. The Stoned Charlaton. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tridophelom at xxx.com Fri Sep 11 13:30:09 1998 From: tridophelom at xxx.com (will grey) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:30:09 PDT Subject: Sinister: I LOVE Message-ID: <19980911123010.9971.qmail@hotmail.com> >Am I the only one who thinks that it's not a good but a GREAT song, >one of >the greatest in the album, just perfect as it is ? Write me and join the >Association for the "Rollecoaster ride" defence !!!!!!!! sign me up! except i wish it was about 20 minutes LONGER... it's a pain to keep rewinding over and over... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sandrad at xxx.com Fri Sep 11 13:42:55 1998 From: sandrad at xxx.com (Sandra Duric) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:42:55 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Should I go to NY? In-Reply-To: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E221F3FBE@server1.HITEntertai nment.com> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980911084255.0091c560@mail.accu-staff.com> Why not go to Toronto?? Chances are the venue will be smaller and you'll get closer to B&S... And the Canadian dollar is so bloody cheap (half the US dollar), although I doubt that's anything to brag about because now imports just cost a hell of a lot more!! At 12:28 PM 9/11/98 +0100, Mark Casarotto wrote: > >Okay, here goes... > >I am toying with the idea of taking a few days off and flying to NYC for >one or both of the gigs. I would greatly appreciate any encouragement, >cajoling and advice, as I know no-one (that I can think of) in New York, >and feel a bit like a small furry animal trying to contemplate quantum >physics about the whole caboodle. But I haven't been on holiday in 3 >years, have never been to the States, and reckon this may be the last >great opportunity of my youth. Please, please mail me privately if you >have anything at all to say or suggest. > >So obviously if I do take a big breath and go for it, I'll second >Niceaction's desire to meet up with some of you - I promise I'm not as >snappy in real life as I may have been on occasion on the list :-) > >So write, my friends, and hopefully I'll meet some more of you soon...? > >Take care, beautiful people, >Mark >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Fri Sep 11 12:48:48 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:48:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re: B&S eps References: <7bf95ef5.35f8432f@aol.com> Message-ID: <35F90E20.3113CB77@jeepster.co.uk> Hello, SpaceboyUK at aol.com wrote: > i know this has been discussed before but; > will there be EPs released,in following the album ? > just like with sinister? > or are you not sure? thanks. umm, i'm not sure! well, we're hoping to release a EP (may be four tracks, could be three tracks ... dunno yet) before Xmas, the band are in the studio today recording tracks for it, but typically, we have no idea what the songs are! i think there may be at least another EP before the release of "slow graffiti" from the acid house soundtrack, but again none of this is confirmed and it may just all be ideas in my head! cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Fri Sep 11 13:46:40 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:46:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re: jeepster-news: Belle & Sebastian - USA Confirmed Dates and n References: Message-ID: <35F91BB0.F41C399F@jeepster.co.uk> Hi everone, someone's been asking questions, so i thought you might all want to know the answers ... > why were the t shirts £15 and only in large? basically, when you play the empire you HAVE to use the concessions company they employ to sell any merchandise the band have and then they take 25% of the gross profits for themselves. so, for the band to be making their profit, we had to put the prices up to cover the buggery venue charges ... really sorry about that and we did print on the back of the flyers (handed out by funkyseb, fred and rommel ... thank you!) that the charges were ridiculous and that you could get them from mail-order - http://www.jeepster.co.uk - an awful lot cheaper. both the t-shirts were available in small, medium and lage, so if the blokies behind the counter said otherwise, they were LYING! again, the full range can be found on the jeepster site. > and why did they come on so late ? it meant that they played late and we all > missed our trains and had to pay £30 for a taxi. well, there were technical problems (drum kits + onstage monitors apparently) and the band were also very very very nervous. i've heard that a couple of band members were continually visiting the loos before the gig, as they've never played anything of that size before. understandable i think, but probably still not the best excuse ever. the band have apologised to anyone the inconvenienced with them going on late. that's it! cheers, Katrina. > They should play in London again > > tim -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Fri Sep 11 14:23:01 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:23:01 -0400 Subject: Sinister: You are stuck to your sheets Message-ID: <35F92433.C2C9B261@bigfoot.com> My official responses to various points of Sinister Digest V2 #341. The press has been notified. > anyone not bought 3 copies yet? ... :) > I bought two (one for car, one for bedroom) and all of my friends thought that was pretty funny. I'm glad to hear that maybe buying more than one isn't really that unusual. Of course, something tells me that our good friend Katrina hasn't bought *any* copies. ;) > Am I the only one who thinks that it's not a good but a GREAT song, > one of > the greatest in the album, just perfect as it is ? Write me and join the > Association for the "Rollecoaster ride" defence !!!!!!!! > I'm definitely in that club. Before the album came out, I wondered why Chickfactor and Rollercoaster Ride were so low in the voting booth. Now, Chickfactor I can understand. It's not bad, just not as wonderful as the rest of the stuff. But Rollercoaster ride is one of my favorites. It's a good song to get tucked into bed to. Morning=groggy, Reid -- "I try to be nice to at least one person a day. Today isn't your day. Tomorrow isn't looking very good either." -chalkboard in the window of Pepper's Pizza +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From esincoff at xxx.com Fri Sep 11 14:35:38 1998 From: esincoff at xxx.com (Ethan Sincoff) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:35:38 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Meet up for nyc shows Message-ID: <35F92729.2817479F@icon.com> hey all Does anyone want to meet up before / during the B&S shows here in NYC @ the supper club? hope everyone is well and smiling Ethan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Fri Sep 11 13:27:31 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:27:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: live taping at athens References: Message-ID: <35F91733.14F7ADFF@jeepster.co.uk> Tim Groves wrote: > > as far as I know live taping is legalish in Italy - > If ANYONE has a boot of Mondays gig at the shepherds bush empire please let me > know. I'll pay or swap for whatever > tim actually it is illegal everywhere. jeepster hold a WORLD-WIDE exclusive copyright of all the artowrk, recorded works, sound and the songs themselves. the enforcers of this copyright are various companies but include: virgin france, sony (uk publishing thingy), matador and capitol. which i assure you is far more power tahn we know what to do with. as regards home-taping i'll just set the record straight before it rears it's ugly head again. the label will tolerate all non-profit dubs providing we don't know about it! that simple. we will ignore tape requests - but please don't put us in any position we don't want to be in - keep requests for everything else out of our view (off the list) and we won't say anything. :) david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Fri Sep 11 14:47:28 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:47:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: You are stuck to your sheets References: <35F92433.C2C9B261@bigfoot.com> Message-ID: <35F929F0.52C556FA@jeepster.co.uk> Reid wrote: > Of course, something tells me that > our good friend Katrina hasn't bought *any* copies. ;) hmm, a very dubious comment, katrina and i can lay our hands on free copies certainly, but that's not the point. tomorrow (as we've been in the office all week) we assist the band by buying a couple of tapes, a CD or two and maybe the vinyl too. these are for ourselevs and for the few people we want to give the record to (who we don't thin have bought it yet) like our parents :) david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Fri Sep 11 15:03:43 1998 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:03:43 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Background Message-ID: <35F92DBF.EE5EBA0D@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Hi sinisters , in b&s 's cover there's a leading theme : the colour of background (vanished) : red (if you are feeling sinister) , white ( 3...6...9 seconds of light) , yellowish (dog on wheels) , violet ( lazy line painter Jane) , green ( the boy with the arab strap). There's a reason or it's a coincidence. In any case is original and wonderful,too. Marco#7. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Fri Sep 11 15:03:34 1998 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:03:34 +0200 Subject: Sinister: I LOVE "Rollercoaster ride" References: <19980911074644.17763.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: <35F92DB6.B6FC338F@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Hi Julien, i must say some thing : 1) - the piano in the final Dirty dream #2 is special, only 4 notes but............, i love the trumpet solo , too. 2) - I think that TBWTAS is not so short, is right . 3) - The roallercoaster ride is a brilliant song; it's one of my favourite. "......you're happy cause your cosy and the rain comes rattling in......" This is our "comitate to defence". Now i am a question for you or also for all sinister: Who is the boy in the cover? Bye. Marco#7. Julien Boëldieu ha scritto: > Hello everyone ! > > I've got a few questions, suggestions or observations : > > 1. When Stevie sings on "Seymour Stein" : > "He reminded you of Johnny > Before he went Electronic" > does he mean Johnny Marr ? > > 2. Although I'm used to listening it billions of times a day since > saturday, > I only noticed this morning the piano in the final of "Dirty dream > #2". Great moment. > > 3. "If you're feeling sinister" lasts the right time : neither too > long nor too short. "The boy > with the Arab strap" is to me too short. > > 4. Don't you think that Belle and Sebastian should write and play an > whole album for > Morrissey (which has not sung a single good song since the marvelous > "Vauxhall and I", > ie 1994), another one for David Bowie and one more for Lou Reed ? > > 5. I don't know why lots of people complain of "The rollercoaster > ride" : too long, too monotonous, etc. Mmmm... What they need is a > REAL rollercoaster ride ! > Am I the only one who thinks that it's not a good but a GREAT song, > one of > the greatest in the album, just perfect as it is ? Write me and join the > Association for the "Rollecoaster ride" defence !!!!!!!! > > 6. "Awful" by Hole (on the new album) is beautiful. And Melissa Auf > der Maur absolutely charming. > > Bye, > Julien > _________________________________________________________ > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aevans at xxx.uk Fri Sep 11 15:25:32 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 15:25:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tim Hopkins Message-ID: <01BDDD98.6E47AB00@pc07628> Ed Mason wrote : >By the way I have a pair of Tim Hopkins' very own generously proportioned >underpants at my house, left after the Leeds gig, and stained with Belle >and Sebastian-induced sweat I'll wager, ooh, the very thought leaves me >a-quivering, perhaps I should devise a competition or somesuch I vote that you photograph said underpants and send the negatives to whoever does the artwork for B&S requesting they appear on the front of the next EP, which could be titled *Terry Yorath Ate My Shreddies*...No ? Alternatively just send them to Disco Sister Miller who will generously donate them to his favourite girl guides troop as a tent. So rooooood. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Calumn.Shearer at xxx.uk Fri Sep 11 15:38:48 1998 From: Calumn.Shearer at xxx.uk (Shearer, Calumn) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 15:38:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: RE: Tim Hopkins Message-ID: Why not have a competition to win them? Everyone else is. (bitter, 'cos I didn't get near to winning that Elvis piccie) cal >-----Original Message----- >From: Adrian Evans [SMTP:aevans at xxx.uk] >Sent: Friday, September 11, 1998 7:26 AM >To: 'Sinister' >Subject: Sinister: Tim Hopkins > > > >Ed Mason wrote : > >>By the way I have a pair of Tim Hopkins' very own generously proportioned >>underpants at my house, left after the Leeds gig, and stained with Belle >>and Sebastian-induced sweat I'll wager, ooh, the very thought leaves me >>a-quivering, perhaps I should devise a competition or somesuch > >I vote that you photograph said underpants and send the negatives to whoever >does the artwork for B&S requesting they appear on the front of the next EP, >which could be titled *Terry Yorath Ate My Shreddies*...No ? > >Alternatively just send them to Disco Sister Miller who will generously >donate them to his favourite girl guides troop as a tent. > >So rooooood. >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Scott_Turner at xxx.COM Fri Sep 11 15:54:26 1998 From: Scott_Turner at xxx.COM (Scott Turner) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:54:26 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Mr. Stein Message-ID: <8525667C.0051A210.00@JHMAIL.JH.COM> the more I listen to Seymour Stein, the more it reminds me of Frank Zappa. I dig that. .scott +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From m.wimbury at xxx.uk Fri Sep 11 16:05:05 1998 From: m.wimbury at xxx.uk (MATTHEW WIMBURY) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:05:05 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Rufus Message-ID: <199809111505.QAA16773@unixb.lancs.ac.uk> Yeah hi all......can someone please remind me of some of the things that were said on here about Rufus Wainwright when his album appeared and whether it was generally liked or not because I've just managed to get myself a free copy of it and I'm all excited about listening to it now. Oooh perks of the job and all that..... Matt. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Fri Sep 11 16:13:33 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:13:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: And the Rodddddney's are queueing up God Forbid Message-ID: <01BDDD9F.200F3CD0@keith@qss.co.uk> Have you lot heard about the current carry on with the Manics' single, it seems that everyone including the Manics reckon that it sounds exactly like the Stranglers' Duchess. I can't see it personally but mentioning it does allow me to attempt a "comedy" subject line. Duchess is a top song though, and I even quite like the Manics one too, it seems to have a tune. Good move Manics! I've got a bloody great cold at the moment unfortunately, probably due to the systematic and self-inflicted destruction of my immune system whilst on holiday. Sleeping in a flower bed probably didn't help too much either. David really ought to have got a photograph of that. But for all that, I'm bloody glad he didn't. Incidentally, as has already "bean" pointed out, the bloke on the cover of the record is CHRIS GEDDES. For those of you reading in HTML readers, hopefully that'll be clear and not need stated again. Also, a great big thankyou to Mr.Peter Miller for his kind gift of a tape. It's a lovely collection of funky stuff (like Seb, except with stuff instead) and weird sort of croony people. I like the version of Be thankful for what you've got. Is the William De Vaughn version the original, it's set me in doubt. I especially like the great Marvin Gaye tracks. They rule, in the way Mr.Gaye generally does. Oh and Peter, it's probably not work the money for the UNKLE album, it's not really that great, it isn't as good as DJ Shadow on the whole. However, I'd disagree with Mr.Fitchett when he points out in his e-zine that DJ Shadow hasn't really move on creatively from What does your soul look like?... I mean, how do you define that? HIgh Noon is certainly a departure, and I can't see many people who do make as radical a break from their general style as that. I still think Mr.Shadow is one of the best blokes of the 90's. I think seen as there are no more UK dates immediately planned by the way we should all arrange some form of meet up somewhere. What do people reckon the chances are of us being able to get the lot of us (or at least as many people from all over the UK - and obviously any non-residents who want to come too) in one place? Right, off to bed for me. Cheers, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mcrooker at xxx.com Fri Sep 11 16:18:00 1998 From: mcrooker at xxx.com (Crooker, Matthew) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:18:00 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Misheard Lyrics Message-ID: <199809111522.AA04015@interlock.randomhouse.com> Is it just me or does the line: "It's not fun to watch the rust grow" (from Is It Wicked Not to Care?) sound like: "It's not fun to watch the Ross Perot" A steady diet of allergy pills and Nyquil have me hearing an array of strange and wonderful things. Matt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Fri Sep 11 16:20:29 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:20:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Paris Date Message-ID: <35F93FBD.DE8AE1CF@jeepster.co.uk> Hi again, (have i been e-mailing all day ... certainly looks like it!) just thought i'd let you all know that the gig in Paris on October 6th has now sold out. not nice news i know, but maybe it is of interest to someone. cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Calumn.Shearer at xxx.uk Fri Sep 11 17:00:31 1998 From: Calumn.Shearer at xxx.uk (Shearer, Calumn) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:00:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Quote: "About B&S" bit in "the List" (biggish) Message-ID: >From "The List" 10-24 Sep 1998 (Issue 342) with Kelly McDonald on the Cover And very nice she looks too.... b&s get a cover mention too.... (ooh, publicity!) and I'm typing this in by hand, so excuse the typos, their probably mine I'll do the Concert review later (not that they haven't been done to death, it's just refreshing to see an "outside" view - as much as there can be one with b&s - it's either "They're GREAT!" or "who?" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------ Page 14 Belle and Sebastian The American music Bible _Spin_ named them as one of the twenty most important bands working today. Their last EP made the Top Forty. Their concerts sell out in hours. Yet it's only now, on the release of their third album, that they have released this photograph of themselves. Just who are BELLE AND SEBASTIAN? Words: Fiona Shepherd BASHFUL STREET KIDS Some bands will do anything to grab the media's attention. Take Stuart Murdoch of rampant self-publicists Belle and Sebastian. Only a few weeks ago he was standing outside _The List's_ Glasgow office throwing bits of paper bearing the traditional greeting "hello" through the window, as part of his efforts to make us listen to his new CD, _The Boy With The Arab Strap_, which he delivered personally on being admitted to out writers' garret. This story - true apart from the 'rampant self-publicists' bit - is only one of many delicious ironies about Glaswegian troubadours Belle and Sebastian. The singer, who is prepared to deliver all his groups albums by hand to this publication and presumably other interested local parties, hasn't conducted an interview in eons, a potentially frustrating state of affairs for the ardent breed of fan his group attracts. The rest of this affable bunch are hardly hermits, frequenting many fine West End hostelries on a regular basis, yet they won't readily pose for group photos. This tendency to play their cards close to their chest has led to accusations of preciousness from a snubbed press; but has this, or the infrequency of their live appearances, stunted their appeal? It seems not. What their wilfully unco-operative approach to promotion has done is throw all the attention onto their lilting, wistful, graceful, pastoral, huggable songs - three albums and various EPs (the most recent of which made the Top 40) which have carved an idiosyncratic niche for a group whose music may echo the past, but has no peer in the present. Stuart Murdoch's baby took a variety of forms before becoming Belle and Sebastian. He first honed his fey 60's-inspired soundtrack pop in a 'group' and one-off club night called La Pastie De La Bourgeoise. Later he recorded a demo under the equally pretentious name Lisa Helps The Blind and accompanied it with a note saying: 'You may lambast me for not being "rock" enough. But I've always preferred baby animals and cake to rock. La Pastie was such a flop that I had to write a song of the same name to redeem the evocation.' The song - an 'Alone Again Or' for the 90s, if you will, pop-pickers - finally surfaced on Belle and Sebastian's '3...6...9 Seconds Of Light' EP. Belle and Sebastian, as they now appear, started to take shape under the moniker Rhode Island, but it wasn't until they named themselves after Cecile Aubrey's children's book about the friendship between a boy and his dog - later a TV series - that the current line-up was assembled in it's entirety. I first saw, or rather heard, them perform at a party in Garnethill. They played in the bedroom, and I listened through the door because the room was full. Even in the early days, it was difficult to gain entry to their gigs. In 1996, the debut album _Tigermilk_ was released to general delight and felicity on Stow College's Electric Honey label, and a recor company bidding war would have ensued if the group hadn't already signed to their current home, Jeepster Records, from where they have waged a mischievous campaign against music industry norms. At first, interviews would only be conducted - if at all - when all members of the band (six at the time) could be present. Posed band photographs were definitely out, so their press shots consisted of various tableaux featuring friends and cuddly toys, including a Last Supper homage. This has proved a great wheeze, and one which did elusive groups like The Residents no harm. Gigs have been relatively sparing, compared to the prevailing 'gig yourself into an early grave' philosophy of some bands, and in unusual venus where possible. All of which seems just about right for a sublime, talented and perpetually in-demand group propelled by a man who prefers animals and cake to rock. And one who, for all his aversion to the fame game, fulfils the showbiz adage od always leaving 'em wanting more. _The Boy With The Arab Strap_ is out now on Jeepster Records. See page 42 for concert review. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Fri Sep 11 17:20:57 1998 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins, Tim) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:20:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: more rubbish for you to delete Message-ID: A few observations on the new LP. I can't believe that no-one has noticed that the recorder solo on 'The Boy With The Arab Strap' is a dead ringer for part of the banjo line in Flatt and Scruggs' "Salty Dog Blues", only slowed down. Also that the story read out on "Spaceboy Dream" is a direct lift from chapter twenty of "The Brothers Karamazov", only with the words changed. Talking of Spaceboy Dream, has anyone noticed the similarity between that and the D.A.F. classic 'Kebab Traume'? It's uncanny. Has anyone noticed that if you take the CD, hold it printed side up, then turn it upside down, it looks just like other CDs of the same size? Also, that if you put the CD in your CD player and press 'play' then music comes out? I think they stole this idea from another band. I think it might have been the Bee Gees, but I'm not sure. I have a number of burning questions about the band. Among these are: - why are they called Belle and Sebastian when there are more than two of them in the band? - are they singing about a cat in the song 'A Century Of Elvis'? Or is it a piece of green vegetable matter? - is it possible for anyone to use the search facility on the archives, or only individuals with brains? If anyone has any old or embarrassing photographs of the band, especially ones which involve nudity, or which were taken with zoom lenses through windows to invade the band's private moments, could you copy them for me? I'll refund the cost of copying and postage, like a photocopy of the piece of bogroll which I found when sneaking into a lav that Stuart M had just used. Oooh blimey, I don't feel the same without my pants. cheerio Tim PS Keith wrote: >I like the version of Be thankful >for what you've got. Is the William De Vaughn version the original, it's >set me in doubt. Yes it is. Listen out for a great version on the Lee Perry compilation 'Shocks of Mighty', sung by Bunny Clarke, I think. Or someone else possibly. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aszolnoki at xxx.com Fri Sep 11 17:30:50 1998 From: aszolnoki at xxx.com (Andras Zalan Szolnoki) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:30:50 PDT Subject: Sinister: live taping at athens Message-ID: <19980911163053.8437.qmail@hotmail.com> ........but there are B&S-songs you can�t get in the shops (or at least not here) or from the record company.......... >From owner-sinister at majordomo.net Fri Sep 11 07:01:26 1998 >Received: from localhost (daemon at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA02962; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:35:10 +0100 >Received: by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:35:00 +0100 >Received: (from majordomo at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA02918 for sinister-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:34:55 +0100 >Received: from mushroom.totalweb.net.uk (mushroom.totalweb.net.uk [195.206.160.4]) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA02880 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:34:40 +0100 >Received: from jeepster.co.uk (p46-portman-car.tch.virgin.net [194.168.18.166]) > by mushroom.totalweb.net.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA17548; > Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:34:04 +0100 (BST) >Message-ID: <35F91733.14F7ADFF at jeepster.co.uk> >Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:27:31 +0100 >From: david kitchen >Organization: jeepster (http://www.jeepster.co.uk/) >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: Tim Groves >CC: lphernan at edisto.cofc.edu, sinister at majordomo.net >Subject: Re: Sinister: live taping at athens >References: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Reply-To: david kitchen >X-List: Sinister > > >Tim Groves wrote: >> >> as far as I know live taping is legalish in Italy - >> If ANYONE has a boot of Mondays gig at the shepherds bush empire please let me >> know. I'll pay or swap for whatever >> tim > >actually it is illegal everywhere. >jeepster hold a WORLD-WIDE exclusive copyright of all the artowrk, >recorded works, sound and the songs themselves. the enforcers of this >copyright are various companies but include: virgin france, sony (uk >publishing thingy), matador and capitol. which i assure you is far more >power tahn we know what to do with. > >as regards home-taping i'll just set the record straight before it rears >it's ugly head again. > >the label will tolerate all non-profit dubs providing we don't know >about it! that simple. we will ignore tape requests - but please don't >put us in any position we don't want to be in - keep requests for >everything else out of our view (off the list) and we won't say >anything. > >:) > >david kitchen > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records > > http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ > http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ > > mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk > > jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn > > to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk > with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message > there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list > > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From edkubisa at xxx.de Fri Sep 11 18:25:21 1998 From: edkubisa at xxx.de (Ed Kubisa) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 19:25:21 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Happy days are here again! Message-ID: <001a01bddda9$285f7d00$10108fc3@cybernet-ag.de.cybernet-ag.de> Well I scraped the money together to buy....... well you can guess! All I can say is that it is as expected - it's FAB!, very B&S. But have you heard the Manson LP... absolutely bonkers, I LOVE IT! I have a feeling a few of you might not though..... ;) oohh.. also bought tickets to see B&S in Munich on Oct 3rd, which will be heaven..... anyone here going? (This gig follows on from the October Beer Festival.... the largest Beer Fest. in the world... can you imagine what would happen if the London crowd were to go...!!! Messy comes to mind.. ;) Edd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eng98ajo at xxx.se Fri Sep 11 17:57:11 1998 From: eng98ajo at xxx.se (Anna J) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 18:57:11 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Help!! Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980911185711.0091ceb0@student3.lu.se> Hello everybody! I'm not sure if anybody remembers me (but I hope so); I used to be around this spring, before I left to spend the summer in France, and now I'm back, but it's not quite the return I was hoping for. See, for the last week, since getting back to uni, me and a friend have been trying to find out if B&S would be playing in Copenhagen aswell as Stockholm, since this would be a lot closer and cheaper for us (we're in Lund), and finally today I found out they're not coming to Copenhagen, so I rushed off to my friend's flat so that we could order tickets for Stockholm, but they were all sold out!! Now we're both completely heart-broken and we're doing out best to see if there's any way to find tickets for Stockholm at all, and this is why I'm writing now. Is there anybody who just happens to have two tickets for the concert lying around and would be happy to sell them or who knows anybody that could help us? I'd appreciate help even a tiny bit beyond possibility! Best regards from the girl who doesn't understand why she always has to do everything at the last moment... P.S. I hope you all had a nice summer :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From barzy at xxx.com Fri Sep 11 19:31:18 1998 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:31:18 -0800 Subject: Sinister: the acid house Message-ID: >i think there may be at least another EP before the release of "slow >graffiti" from the acid house soundtrack, but again none of this is >confirmed and it may just all be ideas in my head! Oh wow! A friend of mine here in LA just got an advance film of this and is transfering it over to America friendly viddie tape..Ewan Bremner plays the lead role (Spud in Trainspotting) and i'd also heard the Trashcan Sinatras have a song on the soundtrack..but I didn't know about "Slow Graffiti" bit! YAY! On a sad Graffiti note...my mate from Glasgow who was just over said they finally painted over the "le pastie" graffiti....:( He also said that Stuart borrowed that idea from his pal Lawrence who spray-painted it outside of a doughnut shop or something like that.. oh bla bla bla x's and o's 2 8) *sigh* beth +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Fri Sep 11 19:15:35 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:15:35 -0400 Subject: Sinister: That is SO true! Message-ID: <35F968C5.5471672F@bigfoot.com> Tim H!O!P!kins wrote: > I can't believe that no-one has noticed that the recorder solo on 'The Boy With The Arab Strap' > is a dead ringer for part of the banjo line in Flatt and Scruggs' "Salty Dog Blues", only slowed > down. > Also that the story read out on "Spaceboy Dream" is a direct lift from chapter twenty of "The > Brothers Karamazov", only with the words changed. > Talking of Spaceboy Dream, has anyone noticed the similarity between that and the D.A.F. classic > 'Kebab Traume'? It's uncanny. > I'm so glad someone finally said it! Those bastards in B&S! Plagarists! And everyone seems to be completely content with letting them get away with it. "Spaceboy Dream" is a complete rip-off of a) all spoken word songs and b) anything with a funky beat. "It Could Have Been A Brilliant Career" is just "Mrs. Robinson" with different words, melodies and music. A wicked wanky bagpipe solo? That's been done before. "A Summer Wasting"? It's just "Sweet Home Alabama" with a few twists. "Chickfactor" is pratically a remake of "Fuck Tha Police" and it's only a matter of time before Alice Cooper sues for what they did to "Schools Out" on Tigermilk. Seriously...Yes, a lot of B&S's bits sound like other songs, but this has always been one of the appealing things about the band...that they sound like re-discovering a song that you hadn't heard in years. And I can even see why people think the beginning of The Boy...does sound a bit like "Spirit In the Sky". But...If anything on the new album sounds like anything else, it sounds like (gasp!) Belle and Sebastian. The melody to the title track sounds like the melody on "Electronic Renaissance" and "...Brilliant Career" is fairly similar to "...Track and Field". But I think we can forgive B&S for sounding like themselves, hm? ~Reid, who is perfectly aware that Tim was joking. -- "I try to be nice to at least one person a day. Today isn't your day. Tomorrow isn't looking very good either." -chalkboard in the window of Pepper's Pizza +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sandrad at xxx.com Fri Sep 11 19:22:56 1998 From: sandrad at xxx.com (Sandra Duric) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:22:56 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Chicago listees Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980911142256.00949e50@mail.accu-staff.com> Hello Chicago listees! What are the chances that someone can help me circumvent the outrageous ticketmaster surcharges by picking up a pair of tickets at your friendly local indie record shop in Chicago? I'd do it myself, but I'm 5 hours away... Please email me privately. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From janine at xxx.com Fri Sep 11 20:59:58 1998 From: janine at xxx.com (Janine Papp) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:59:58 -0500 Subject: Sinister: b&s & d.a.f. Message-ID: You're crazy! No way... B&S like D.A.F.? you're not going to believe this, but I happened to have that song by D.A.F. sitting right next to me as I read this so I put it on. As to why I had it handy that must remain a secret for now... queen bee janine >Talking of Spaceboy Dream, has anyone noticed the similarity between that >and the D.A.F. classic >'Kebab Traume'? It's uncanny. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Fri Sep 11 20:09:34 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 15:09:34 EDT Subject: Sinister: I've just wet myself Message-ID: FUCK!!!!! Dirty Dream #2 is the best song I have heard in my whole life! I'm trying to type and not scream all at the same time! Now I know what Teenyboppers feel like! I hadn't heard it before, except in London, and all I could hear then was Fred and Stuart G's 'version' of it in my left ear. This would be the best single in pop history. It has Top of the pops running through it like a stick of rock! What! a! lot! of! exclamation! marks! Impatient for my promised cd of TWATYBUS, and desperate to get B&S in the top 5 even if I have to buy every copy myself, I got the Heavy-duty hugeo-bastardo vinyl today, and god, this really is a great album. I no longer have any doubts. Except for Chickfactor which is still p!i!s!h! but even that's growing on me. Katrina wrote: <> Ahh.'cause when I went to the stall to return the extra flyers, and later to buy a (fairly lovely) T-shirt, the people there seemed to be complete bastards, who didn't know their arse from an Ink Polaroid, and who didn't seem very excited by the prospect of seeing God's own house band. At all. I did wonder what relation these oiks had to the very civilized regular staff :-) God, sorry about the naughty word at the beginning. I got a bit carried away. But then that's my honest reaction to the song, and I stand by it. TWATYBUS is an outstandingly good album, and if B&S split up today, I doubt we'll hear anything better ever again. It's only an opinion. But I have to admit, it's one I hold rather strongly. seb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koogydelbbog at xxx.com Fri Sep 11 20:15:57 1998 From: koogydelbbog at xxx.com (andrew dean) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: re: the acid house Message-ID: <19980911191557.7881.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> >Sinister: the acid house speaking of the acid house trilogy, which somebody was, i read on teletext this morning that the soundtrack lp is due out on 2nd november but of the 4 or 5 acts it listed as being included it didn't mention 'slow grafitti' which i find strange given that the teletext bod is a bit of a b&s nut (kudos to stephen eastwood btw for having a review of the london gig on there *before* 8am the morning after. i have it written down and will send it here (or more probably to the web site) along with the two from the guardian whan i remember) there's also a peel session pencilled in for october but, like the last twice, they will probably schedule it when i'm out of the country. 8( and yep, i WOULD love you as an eagle... andy 8) == andrew dean (koogydelbbog at yahoo.com) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mneimark at xxx.com Fri Sep 11 20:19:57 1998 From: mneimark at xxx.com (Matthew Neimark) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:19:57 PDT Subject: Sinister: The Boy with the arab strap ramblings Message-ID: <19980911191957.17932.qmail@hotmail.com> A lot of the talk of similarities between this new album and other things from the past that people have noticed (I myself also noticed the Carly Simon similarity, but then again "You're so Vain" sounds like a ripoff of Carol King's "Too Late Baby"). I think that "Seymour Stein" is almost note-by-note rendition of Nick Drake's Northern Sky. It isn't the 1st B&S to sport such similarities. When my sister 1st heard sinister, she thought "Get Me Away from Here I'm Dying" sounded like some 70's song. I myself thought it sounded like "All Fall Down" from Primal Scream's 1st single in 1986. Just goes too show that Tigermilk was the bands best album... All humor aside, The Boy With the Arab Strap is a fabulous album and it reaffirms my faith in them. I think any one of 6 songs on the album could be huge radio hits, if not for the names (Sorry, I just cannot hear Casey Kesem saying, "And that was the Scottish Band Belle and Sebastian who just moved up a notch to #4 with their first hit, Dirty Dream #2." "Simple Things" would be a smash hit if it were at least 2 and a half minutes long. Its funny though. When I first heard it, I was a bit dissappointed. Their music has a strange and subtle effect on you: You think its too simplistic at first, and a lot of the songs don't seem to be going anywhere. But after a few listens, its as if the songs convince you that they are supposed to be the way they are. I think most of their releases have been that way, save for a few songs (Photo Jenny, State I'm In, Judy and the Dream of Horses, Seeing other People, String Bean Jean), all of which grabbed me right away. One more similarity I noticed was the cover, which shows Chris Geddes with an arrow through his chest. This reminded me of the cover of both My Bloody Valentine's "You Make Me Realise" and 10,000 Maniacs "In My Tribe," both excellent records by the way. Matt ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sandrad at xxx.com Fri Sep 11 20:59:24 1998 From: sandrad at xxx.com (Sandra Duric) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 15:59:24 -0400 Subject: Sinister: The Boy with the arab strap ramblings In-Reply-To: <19980911191957.17932.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980911155924.0094d4d0@mail.accu-staff.com> Question: So what?? So they sound like other people, they borrow words, even titles from books for their songs. The music is still heart-achingly beautiful. The lyrics are thoughtful and touching. The melodies linger... And as far as claiming what was/is their best album, I could go on about the Stereolab keyboard similarities in Tigermilk! This comparison thing is starting to read like a bad Melody Maker review! At 12:19 PM 9/11/98 PDT, Matthew Neimark wrote: > >A lot of the talk of similarities between this new album and other >things from the past that people have noticed (I myself also noticed the >Carly Simon similarity, but then again "You're so Vain" sounds like a >ripoff of Carol King's "Too Late Baby"). I think that "Seymour Stein" >is almost note-by-note rendition of Nick Drake's Northern Sky. > >It isn't the 1st B&S to sport such similarities. When my sister 1st >heard sinister, she thought "Get Me Away from Here I'm Dying" sounded >like some 70's song. I myself thought it sounded like "All Fall Down" >from Primal Scream's 1st single in 1986. > >Just goes too show that Tigermilk was the bands best album... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Fri Sep 11 21:02:16 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:02:16 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: more rubbish for you to delete In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Timothy wrote: > A few observations on the new LP. I can't believe that no-one has > noticed that the recorder solo on 'The Boy With The Arab Strap' is a > dead ringer for part of the banjo line in Flatt and Scruggs' "Salty > Dog Blues", only slowed down. .. and other such frenzied pantsless ironies. Well I say, P!O!O! to all your Felt, Nick Drake and Peters & Lee references, why hasn't anyone mentioned Stevie's quote on Chickfactor from "Derek and Clive Live", viz., "what's the worst job you've had?". The answer was something to do with lobsters up your Wembley (which, incidentally, still remains a mystery). Anyhow, naked as he is, Tim makes a good point which I will repeat for newcomers: don't ever feel that just because you're new you should keep quiet, any talk of "real" fans will be laughed out of the shop here, but if you have any burning questions about the band, they'll probably have been answered before on this list - could you toddle along to: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/cgi-bin/sinister-search.cgi and search the archives first please? That way we can keep busy discussing Schopenhauer and knitting and other more on-topic stuff. Oh and you're very welcome, and deeply loved, and if you get *really* stuck with the list, mail me, but only after you've read through the WWW pages please as I'm a busy bee. And please remember, this list is yours, is run on spare time and limited resources, and is completely independent of the band and the record company, so you can say what you like as long as you don't get all grumpy. Just be nice :) honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarahsheridan at xxx.com Fri Sep 11 21:52:19 1998 From: sarahsheridan at xxx.com (paul francke) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:52:19 PDT Subject: Sinister: That is SO true! Message-ID: <19980911205240.11739.qmail@hotmail.com> >bit like "Spirit In the Sky". But...If anything on the new album >sounds like anything else, it sounds like (gasp!) Belle and >Sebastian. The melody to the title track sounds like the melody on >"Electronic Renaissance" and "...Brilliant Career" is fairly similar >to "...Track and Field". But I think we can forgive B&S for sounding >like themselves, hm? a good point, agreed. another instance of self-impersonation on the new LP: the chorus to dirty dream #2 is almost note for note a copy of part of "the boy done wrong again." but the melody sounds so awesome on both songs, i couldn't stand for either to have been self-censored due to the similarity. ttfn,paul ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tonyk at xxx.com Fri Sep 11 22:06:26 1998 From: tonyk at xxx.com (Kiewel, Tony) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:06:26 -0700 Subject: Sinister: opening acts Message-ID: I know it's been a while since I chimed in, but well... I'm just the quiet type. Anyhow, I just got these tour dates from the kids over at Matador and I thought I'd share them since this is the first mention I've seen of opening acts. Strangely this appears to contradict rumors I had heard about the Lily's opening for the entire U.S. tour. Anybody have the full scoop? Katrina? Belle and Sebastian 10/21 Boston Morse Auditorium (at the Photo Resource Center-BU campus) 10/23 Philly Trocadero 10/26 Chicago Metro 10/28 Athens, GA 40 Watt 10/30 DC Black Cat 11/01 NYC Supper Club 11/02 NYC Supper Club (10/21 and 11/01 with Containe, 10/26 with Momus, 10/30 and 11/2 with Guv'ner) -tonyK P.S. For the record I think that Dirty Dream #2 is positively one of the most anthemically (is that a word?) wonderful songs of all time. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Fri Sep 11 23:07:41 1998 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 18:07:41 -0400 Subject: Sinister: The Boy With An Acronym Strap Message-ID: <199809111808_MC2-5935-D6A4@compuserve.com> Hi All 1) Thanks to Honey for the unblocking of the digestive tracts a few days ago, and thanks to all you BNCWS (biscuit nibbling cardigan wearing saddoes) for ensuring that what gushed forth in the *eight* digests that I read in one day was a deluge of ...... quality musings re. gigs and the long awaited album. 2) Nice to see that our nice Uncle Paul not only gets a credit on the back of the CD but is in fact the subject of the title track (rather than Aidan Moffat as had been previously supposed)- "you stagger about making free with your lewd and lascivious posts" 3) I have been disappointed that (as far as I can remember) no-one has yet pointed out that Sarah is holding a F!O!X in the picture in the booklet. 4) Nor has anyone drawn attention to the fact that Stuart sang "She's a B!U!S driver and she's got style" at the end of TBWTAS on Monday night in the cool of the Shepherds Bush Empire. 5) Well done Katrina for explaining the delay to the start of the set on that night. B & S now forgiven, and I understand why Wee Chris is called that, and why he popped out to crowd right towards the end of Elliot Smith's set: it was not only to bump into my daughter and say sorry but also to check that he had time for another dump. 6) ALways end with a question - who is the guy relaxing in the deckchair by the river? Love to all David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JonnyKat at xxx.com Fri Sep 11 23:29:28 1998 From: JonnyKat at xxx.com (JonnyKat at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 18:29:28 EDT Subject: Sinister: The State That I Am In... Message-ID: <490498d6.35f9a448@aol.com> Greetings from the United States of America, where today we have reached the pinnacle of the OJ decade. Where public opinion polls rise above Real Truth, and Television is the New Church. Where moral and legal judgement is handed down by reporters, who claim to reflect the public's views, but actually represent the advertiser's lust for sales. No wonder the economy here is better than ever, but so many people are still unhappy. Maybe things will be better in the Next Millennium? Well, someone had to mention it. Much Love from a Scary Place, Jonny +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Sun Sep 13 00:40:23 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 00:40:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: ...........sounds likes.......... Message-ID: <199809112346.AAA18611@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Look I don't want to offend anyone but......(believe me this is always a good way to start a letter) At 18 I'm too young (and not knowledgable in the modern classics,although while under the b&s influence I bought 2 Nick Drake albums) to have heard almost all of the stuff that TWATTYBUSDRIVERWHO'SGOTSTYLE supposedly sounds like. As a result I can listen to it for what it is: one hell of an album. I suggest you do the same and forget about plagerism, even if it is blatent as alledged! Best track: Space boy dream or maybe Dirty dream #2 Jake xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Sun Sep 13 00:40:23 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 00:40:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: ...........sounds likes.......... Message-ID: <199809112346.AAA18607@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Look I don't want to offend anyone but......(believe me this is always a good way to start a letter) At 18 I'm too young (and not knowledgable in the modern classics,although while under the b&s influence I bought 2 Nick Drake albums) to have heard almost all of the stuff that TWATTYBUSDRIVERWHO'SGOTSTYLE supposedly sounds like. As a result I can listen to it for what it is: one hell of an album. I suggest you do the same and forget about plagerism, even if it is blatent as alledged! Best track: Space boy dream or maybe Dirty dream #2 Jake xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zulu at xxx.uk Sat Sep 12 01:18:54 1998 From: zulu at xxx.uk (Colin Campbell) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 01:18:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: what a B&Stard of a week Message-ID: <199809120018.BAA18026@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Hello kittens. do ya like the title, it came to me in a flash of inspiration! It kinda describes my week though; Monday, bought twattybus(i like that) listened to it a lot. Tuesday, drove down to shropshire to see a friend or 3, made them listen to twattybus a lot, "That sounds like simon and garfunkle" one of them sais when It could have been.... gets going. Wednesday, set off for alton towers along v. small country lane with short, ginger emma driving, then crash into a BUS full of children on thier way to school.Ouch we say, yippee say the kids who get to go home, paramedics were nice, as were the police, contrary to my drunken post of a while ago, luckily noone is hurt more than a couple of bruises, but the car is a write off. The bus isnt too bad, perhaps riding busses is not only good but safer than cars. Thursday, get to alton towers, me driving, and guess what, we went on a Rollercoaster ride or lots, oblivion kicks ass, vertical aaargh! And now back here on friday reading all your lovely and not so lovely mail , and then adding to the considerable pile with my own waste of time and bandwidth, sorry. Ouch, I think I have whiplash! colin. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JonnyKat at xxx.com Sat Sep 12 02:16:12 1998 From: JonnyKat at xxx.com (JonnyKat at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:16:12 EDT Subject: Sinister: smile. Message-ID: <91d28ed.35f9cb5c@aol.com> Hello, friends! On a cheerier note, I am listening to The Boy With The Arab Strap LP for the first time, as I write this. It seems to have made all the silly troubles of the world melt away. Ease Your Feet Into The Sea is making me a very happy boy. Mister Kitchen, I must say the US Vinyl is sounding just beautiful to me, but I will still be placing an order for some of your thicker plastique. = ) Wait, I have to turn the record over. Did you hear what I said CD kidz? I actually have to get up and turn it over! Okay, I'm back. A Space Boy Dream! Ooohhh.... I am getting the shivers. Okay lovelies, I would like to welcome my boyfriend, Billy, to the list. Billy, I love you. Smiles, Jonny P.S. Esteban, thanks for making me laugh tonight! Now get to bed! : P +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mphintz at xxx.com Sat Sep 12 03:29:46 1998 From: Mphintz at xxx.com (Mphintz at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:29:46 EDT Subject: Sinister: Mishearing/blanketed in B&S Message-ID: I know not to entirely trust the lyric sheet, especially after the famous (maybe) "At least they know where to put it" line (who does that descibe on this list?) in "Seeing Other People". In any case, I have a mishearing on the new album. Instead of "As he wets himself for the final time", I thought Stuart sang "As he works himself on a Valentine". A bit nicer since it is not describing a bodily function (unless you like that sort of thing). My "If You're Feeling Sinister" poster hung on the wall above my bed has been falling off. I wake up in the middle of the night blanketed by that very distraught girl's face. It isn't entirely pleasant. Hopefully my "Boy With the Arab Strap" poster will not fall off when I hang it up. If it did fall off, I do not think I would admit that I slept under the boy with the arab strap. I have a reputation to uphold. Living and loving Matthew +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Sat Sep 12 03:52:45 1998 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:52:45 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: "Electronic Renaissance" lyrics? In-Reply-To: <199809112346.AAA18611@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Message-ID: If only as a warm-up for a return to writing songs with lyrics and such, I've been tossing around the idea of recording a version of "Electronic Renaissance". However, it's difficult to make out all the words, and to be sure they are correct. Anyone know the lyrics? Did _Tigermilk_ include a lyric sheet? If it did, a photocopy would be swell... --Mark __ Imminent: SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 "The electricity is no better off than on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Sat Sep 12 06:37:37 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (brier at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:37:37 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Points by numbers for e-z reference Message-ID: <014201bdde0f$783bc2a0$6d9fcdcf@brier> Hi, Taking a break from reading Ken Starr's pulp novel to make a few Belle comments (they ARE playing in the background after all...) by numbers: 1. Gawd, the differences between printed lyrics & sung ones, even in "the boy with".... where's the tag lines like "when you've been inside" and "she accepts my confession" ? and "with the boy WITH the arab strap / with the boy from the Arab Strap", "with" meaning he had one, "from" meaning he was the singer from Arab Strap? 2. It's amazing, the lack of comparisons to The Smiths. Maybe I'm late and we've been through all this before. Shit, I'd better check the archives. 3. Katrina, the T-shirts are really beautiful, no matter what anyone says about longing for the past whimsical designs, or the un-imaginative act of putting an album cover directly to shirt. Can anyone amongst us dispute the sheer beauty of the Stow design? 4. Y'all Sinisters are wonderful, and you make my little day. Short n' sweet, I'm done. -Brier -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Thessaly1 at xxx.com Sat Sep 12 09:51:14 1998 From: Thessaly1 at xxx.com (Thessaly1 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:51:14 EDT Subject: Sinister: greetings! Message-ID: <3f2f6c4a.35fa3602@aol.com> hi kids! i have been reading the list for a few months but didn't feel compelled to chime in until i realised that it really bugs me that i have NO idea what "the boy with an arb strap means!" what the heck is an arab strap? i take it that it is slang for being impaled (based on the cover, although there is a nice disclaimer about the title having nothing to do with the cover star) so someone PLEASE put me out of my misery and tell me what an arab strap is! :0) i also must add that i adore the new cd. it hasn't left my cd player since i rushed out tuesday morning to buy it. i am even thinking about flying to chicago to see the band in late oct. (hey i have gone to far away cities for shows before). still hoping they decide to grace us in la with their presence! jennifer p.s. i am writing a review of the cd for the magazine i write for and will post the article when i am finished! :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Sat Sep 12 12:51:01 1998 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 13:51:01 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Merchandise Message-ID: <35FA6025.387AC45E@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Hallo, i want to buy a t-shirt or anythink else of B&S, but i've not credit card and i live in Italy. There's a shop here where i can find B&S' merchandise????? Or , there's any other way of payment if i order in internet? Bye. Marco#7. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vanne at xxx.se Sat Sep 12 13:22:48 1998 From: vanne at xxx.se (vanne) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 14:22:48 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Klubben 26/9 Message-ID: <35FA6798.23CEA935@wineasy.se> Hi, does anyone have a spare ticket for B&S's Stockholm gig 26/9 up for sale? The tix really sold out fast, sob. Compliments, Christoffer M. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Sat Sep 12 12:42:04 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 12:42:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: jeepster-news: Belle & Sebastian Canada Dates Message-ID: <35FA5E0C.26E62816@jeepster.co.uk> Hello! I now have a confirmed date and ticket details for the gig in Toronto: Saturday October 24th Toronto, Opera House, 735 Queen Street East, Toronto, ONT, M4M 1H1. I;m not sure how much the tickets cost, but they will be available NEXT WEEK from Ticketmaster on 41 870 8000, in person at Rotate This Records, 620 Queen Street West on 416 504 8447 and Sonic Temple Records, 5165 Yonge Street on 416 222 2004. There are two more confirmed dates as well: Wednesday October 28th Athens, 40 Watt Club, 285 West Washington Street, Athens, GA, 30601. and Friday October 30th Washington, Black Cat, 1831 14th Street North West, Washington DC. when i have ticket details for these i will pass them on! Confirmed support slots are as follows: Boston - Containe Chicago - Momus Washington - Guv'ner New York - Containe There will also be another date at the Supper Club which will go on sale when the first show has sold out! Hope this all helps. cheers, Katrina. -- -=- Jeepster Recordings Ltd, 217 Canalot, 222 Kensal Road, London W10 5BN http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ work - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a message from the Jeepster Records news mailing list. Visit our site at http://www.jeepster.co.uk for more info. To unsubscribe yourself from this list send a message to majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'unsubscribe news' in the body of the message Any problems? mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SPRFNK at xxx.com Sat Sep 12 16:02:49 1998 From: SPRFNK at xxx.com (SPRFNK at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:02:49 EDT Subject: Sinister: greetings! Message-ID: actually i just heard yesterday that and arab strap is what they put on to keep there willy wonkas hard hehe---sorry i was trying to think of something that wouldn't offend anyone--- byebye kristin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Sat Sep 12 18:17:35 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 18:17:35 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: 5 star bumper pop hit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oh, here's another review for the archive, if anyone's keeping them, this one sent to me before publication by an anonymous admirer. But I see "Uncut" is out today anyhow, so it's not so exciting now. Sorry. Anyway, the reviewer, Bobert McTiggerty, is clearly after a roll in the hay with one or other of the band. That's funny, because we're after a roll in the hay with him, aren't we? > BELLE AND SEBASTIAN - The Boy With The Arab Strap (Jeepster) (*****) > > To their detractors, this Glaswegian eight piece are indie cannon > fodder, courting some outmoded amateur ethic, sulkily refusing to talk > to the press, and relevant only to a generation of precious, asexual > bedsit losers. Not that this seems to concern Belle and Sebastian. > > Listening to this LP, it is clear that this is a band possessed by quiet > ambition, and a growing confidence particular to those who have stumbled > on something truly special. Building on gentle, fragile tunes and > sharp, witty vignettes of daydreaming idealists and romantic maladroits, > the record marks Belle and Sebastian's arrival as a fully fleshed group. > The Northern stomp and euphoric swirls of "Dirty Dream #2", the lush > melancholy of the transatlantic love ballad "Chick Factor", and the > surprisingly tripped out "Spaceboy Dream" reveal a refreshing diversity, > with strings, organ, jugband guitar, and trumpet all adding colour to > increasingly rich and breathtaking arrangements. A 24-carat love > affair. I've got another crackingly bad review of the London gig in The Independent yesterday, but that'll have to wait until my fingers come unstuck. honey xxx P.S. Sending pictures, or attachments of any kind to the list is deemed a Bad Thing, due to the number of people with slow dial-up connections. A few have done it recently - sorry but I'm getting requests they don't. If anyone has any pictures they'd like to share, send them to me directly and I'll put them on the "Things We Made At School Today, Mummy" page on the Sinister site. I'll put any old shite up on there. And if they're rude, they'll go on my bedroom wall too. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blink at xxx.net Sat Sep 12 21:58:24 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 16:58:24 -0400 Subject: Sinister: all the bad things you can do with a bottle References: <199809101741.SAA03029@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <35FAE070.5CEA@inexpress.net> > If there was a sequel > Would you love me as an equal? > Would you love me 'till I die?........... woah!! that's the real lyrics! I like,Beth thought it was seagull/eagle....absolutely positvely thought that! and i wasn't thinking of it like that for erotic reasons,just because it sounds like...actually i was thinking B&S were stuck on something to rhyme,and couldn't find the thesauras so were just like 'hmm,eagle sounds good' > Well I have such a lot to say that all I'm going to murmur about the > music-hall experience that was B&S was that Mick did indeed wear a > kilt wow! i would be afraid of strong gusts of wind love me baby, The Dude +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Thessaly1 at xxx.com Sat Sep 12 23:14:16 1998 From: Thessaly1 at xxx.com (Thessaly1 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 18:14:16 EDT Subject: Sinister: chicago question. Message-ID: hi there! thanks for the explanation of what an "arab strap" means. i had heard the word before but never paid attention to what it meant. i am seriously thinking of going to chicago for the show on oct. 26th. i have a friend in chicago that i can stay with, but i don't know if he would want to go to the show, and he can be bit boring.:( is there anyone who is going to the show that could put me up for 2 days? :) i would be eternally grateful. i am fun and nice person (no i won't kill you in your sleep!) all this depends on the price of flights from la to chicago, if i can get a good price, i am going to go, if the price is too steep, i am just going to have to wait until next year when they *hopefully* come to la la land. cheers! jennifer +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Sat Sep 12 22:50:24 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 17:50:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: nyc supper club nov. 2 on sale now!!! Message-ID: just got my tickets. it's on sale at other music and ticketmaster so rush over right away!!!! xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jj at xxx.com Sun Sep 13 02:14:11 1998 From: jj at xxx.com (jj) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 21:14:11 -0400 Subject: Sinister: more rubbish for you to delete Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980912211411.00915ea0@mail.si.umich.edu> >.. and other such frenzied pantsless ironies. Well I say, P!O!O! to >all your Felt, Nick Drake and Peters & Lee references, why hasn't >anyone mentioned Stevie's quote on Chickfactor from "Derek and Clive >Live", viz., "what's the worst job you've had?". The answer was >something to do with lobsters up your Wembley (which, incidentally, >still remains a mystery). um, i assumed that was a reference to the zine Chickfactor myself, seeing as Gail and co's interviews are full of such questions (ie. the interview with sarah martin where she's asked "do you have a job?" and "what's your favorite book?" and the one with isobel where she's asked "what makes you really angry, besides the NME?")...not to mention the sections where they ask loads of music types the same question and just list all the responses. anyone who hasn't read Chickfactor should really get out pen and paper and write for a copy at 245 east 19th street #12T, new york NY 10003 usa. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * fantastic po box 4492 ann arbor mi 48106 usa http://www.fantasticpop.com ...the finest in frantically cool pop... * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Cin875 at xxx.com Sun Sep 13 02:28:56 1998 From: Cin875 at xxx.com (Cin875 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 21:28:56 EDT Subject: Sinister: NYC tickets Message-ID: <22e9a91.35fb1fd8@aol.com> I just got back from purchasing tickets for the November 2nd show at Other Music. They have sold out of November 1st tickets, but they said you can still get tickets for that date from Ticketmasters. Cindy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Sun Sep 13 09:57:28 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (brier at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 01:57:28 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Elvis & Spaceboy Lyrics Message-ID: <000e01bddef4$90f36a60$889fcdcf@brier> Heeeee, Could anyone take a minnit to either send me or tell me where I can find the lyrics to "A Century of Elvis" and "A Space Boy Dream"? I've tried to figure them out and gotten quite far, despite only the first line of each being printed in the booklet... And damn, is "Elvis" a CAT??? I rather liked thinking of the song as refering to Presley himself, but it's good because now I have two ways of seeing it. Thanks, Brier -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pjmiller at xxx.es Sun Sep 13 12:34:10 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:34:10 +0200 Subject: Sinister: What's Got 4 Legs, Talks Peculiar? Message-ID: <01bddf0a$6e8ddda0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> My mother-in-law says that "The Rollercoaster Ride" is nice and relaxing. And better than Frank Sinatra. Former Whitehouse Chief of Staff Chris Leonard wrote: 19. Peter Miller 25 (Unlucky , but at least you bet the duke.) I always suspected my pop knowledge was greater than the Duke's, and now it's official. From now on kids, listen to me. I'll tell you what's what in the world of pop. Rodney wrote: 7. So who's going to be the first to post their 10 biggest wanks? Thou mewling, reeling-rip codpiece, Rod. Whilst you and some of your young chums might be able to rustle up ten big wanks in two shakes of a baa-lamb's tail, us elderly gents will never manage it in time. We'll just be starting work on big wank number nine when the new album comes out, which will no doubt contain even fouler, more depraved suggestions. Katrina wrote: i've heard that a couple of band members were continually visiting the loos before the gig, as they've never played anything of that size before. What a pair of mammering, horn-mad pumpions! Adrian Evans wrote: Alternatively just send them to Disco Sister Miller who will generously donate them to his favourite girl guides troop as a tent. Thou wenching, boil-brained hedge-pig, Adrian. And it wasn't me that took a shine to your Kate. Nor was it me shouting at the McDonald's security cameras. I know that's what you were implying, you roguish, clapper-clawed pantaloon, but it won't wash. Nice to have you back. Good holiday? Pray silence for Keith Watson: Oh and Peter, it's probably not work the money for the UNKLE album, it's not really that great, it isn't as good as DJ Shadow on the whole. The only DJ Shadow track I've heard is "Midnight at the Lost and Found" on a compilation, which is nice musically, but I find his philosophising somewhat uninspiring. My interest in UNKLE stems from two smashing remixes, of Can and The Jon Spencer Bloooooooes Explosion, which consist mainly of turning the drums up to eleven, something of which I wholeheartedly approve. On one of my regular quests for something N!E!W! and exciting to listen to, I saw the albums by Hefner and Lambchop. I see the latter contains a cover version of one of my favourite seduction epics, "Give Me Your Love" by Curtis Mayfield. Oh, and Stuart wasn't whispering "that was gorgeous" after Isobel's rendition of "Is It Wicked Not to Care", he was whispering "hoist yer drawers up!", a timely warning after spotting a bit of bloomer lace protuding from beneath her skirt, at the back. Bobby Chariot +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Sun Sep 13 15:03:55 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Fluffy Sarah) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 15:03:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The horror! The calmity! The Jane! The Joanna! Message-ID: Hello! Hey Jake, I'm 17 and I think I should tell you that al the "classics" being tossed around this list are probably all shit anyway (apart from Nick Drake and whatever tape Tim P!O!O!Kins makes you, and Felt, but have to say Hopkirk and Lee don't make me wich to play mah belly trombone...not that I have one... ) so pay no attention whatsoever. *I* KNOW the album is a dirct rip off of DON'T BORE US GET TO THE CHORUS by Roxette - but do I feel the urge to ramble on pedantically about it? Yes? I do! Good-o! Urgh? I can't afford the new album! But I have another job now! And when they give me some money it will be going straight to some people on this list who make me feel really guilty when I have still not paid up for things which happened ages ago (at least in the timescale of P!O!O!P anyway!) But I have seen the artwork. When me and my chums went into Our Price so my friendy could buy me Pet Sounds (cos it was on sale for 6.99...and she HAD promised it me for my birthday...which was last June), the album was on display at the front of the shop, I picked up the CD and pointed to the the name of honey and said "hey hey i KNOW that dude!!! I've stayed with that dude! I gave him my pink dinosaur to wear at London and HOW DID HE REPAY ME???" - but anyway I am very impressed and jealous. I wanna be on an album! What would the list be without me? Mych better actually I supose. Who on the list has bought their golfing pants yet then? I haven't yet, but I have a friend who wears checked pants all the time so I think I have his "street cred cha?" reflecting upon my own good person. I like Mick, he's cool and wears golfing pants. I don't like Isobel. She wore "pedal pushers" in Leeds. How come no-one picked up on that travesty for gods sake? Its eeevil eeevil I tell you!!! And Isobel, YUK, you looked UGLY in them! They dont even suit a supermodel never mind a recorder and cello and part time singer player thing? Errgh! I have to kill anyone who wears them! Sorry Stuart and everyone else who fancies bher but no! The flith must be stopped! I can't believe Isobel is a trendy dude........ I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy "horrified" Candarel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Sun Sep 13 15:48:04 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Fluffy Sarah) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 15:48:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: What comedian? Message-ID: OK, hello miss conscience... I'm just writing again to say sorrry for my last paragraph thing.... Just that if I was Isobel and I read what I just wrote, I would be gutted, that may just be my over sensitivity but hey! Isobel I am sure is a lovely thing. Just wears the most ugly item of clothing in the world : pedal pushers. I mean, yuk, who invented them....sorry! But as a "young teen" (I'm Just 17 you know!!!) clothes matter to me - as in wearing trendy dude clothes is despicable. And "you had a whole lotta fun with the comedian", which one? Sean Hughes? Phwoar! Heheh! As long as it is not Roy Chubby Brown. Oh sorry, he isn't even classed as comedian. Argh! Sorry! I'm going! As you know! I'm not going to post again! I've got a job, it's crap and I don't like it. And I haven't even started my first day yet. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Candarel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Sun Sep 13 17:06:36 1998 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:06:36 EDT Subject: Sinister: new lp description Message-ID: <2439e885.35fbed8c@aol.com> Well-informed customer tells us that an arab strap is a sexual aid for horses that helps their penises to point in the correct direction. Customer also tells us that the particular B&S song with this title is making fun of (the band) Arab Strap's lead singer who is forever whining about his failed relationships. And the lyric does in fact read, "the boy WITH the arab strap". Make of this what you will. Current bestseller in the lispy pop department. I got this from an e-mail catalogue. Pete Gianakopoulos +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MWaggner at xxx.com Sat Sep 12 23:55:18 1998 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 18:55:18 EDT Subject: Sinister: nyc supper club nov. 2 on sale now!!! Message-ID: <3b249984.35fafbd6@aol.com> Having decided not to take a long drive today, I needed something to take up some time, so I checked my ticketmaster and made the same discovery that Megan did -- Nov. 2 is on sale! As of like, 6 p.m. only 170-something tickets had been sold. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Sun Sep 13 17:44:34 1998 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgal) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 09:44:34 PDT Subject: Sinister: STHLM MEETING BEFORE GIG!!! Message-ID: <19980913164435.9941.qmail@hotmail.com> well all you how has got a hold of one of those very lovely tickets of belle and sebastian listen up!!! I and two friends have this wonderful idea that I know you'll all like... We'll meet 17.00 at the tubestation Medborgarplatsen. Just oustide the store pressbyr�n by the sp�rr at the way to g�tgatan/folkungatan. We'll then go to the park Vitabergsparken to play a game of cricket!! Since jonas, a friend of mine who's dad's from scotland knows how to play it..rules leaftlets will be handed out.:) I though maybe we'd have a picnic if the weather allows it..god hope it does!! If it would be raining we'd meet up at the samt spot and then just go from there...I know it would be fun just to meet all..maybe go to some pub..if the weather is too bad and to cold... I do hope that all of you who are able to can come...So that we later on the concert can have a laugh..and say --hey were the bunch from the sinister list:) well if you have any questions contact me... hugs kisses Becka.... # go and have a peek at my page it's constantly developing, http://www.angelfire.com/me/Mizzy # ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Sun Sep 13 19:06:17 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 19:06:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: chart position for belle and sebastian Message-ID: <35FC0999.A0A2E7CD@jeepster.co.uk> having sat here for the past 3 hours and twiddled our fingers in every possible way whilst we waited for the charts to come through, we eventually found the info first on the net. anyhow, this is it, the confirmed chart poisition for the album in the official UK chart. Belle and Sebastian went in at number 12 on the album chart and number 1 on the indie album chart, yippee! which we thought was bloody brilliant, we don't know how many sales secured that position, but just maybe the four we bought yesterday made a difference :) anyhow, that's that spurt of excitement done - just a short congratulations to the band for creating such a masterpiece. david & katrina PS: things currently being worked on - a rock family tree for the band - a re-vamped shop - the refreshed fiction section - getting mugs and posters available for mail order - improving the news mailing list - adding a page (when i get the chance to write it) for newbies to b&s. anyone wanting to contribute to any of the above should contact me privately - i already have a few of them sorted, it's just things like the rock family tree i need a hand with :) -=- Jeepster Recordings Ltd, 217 Canalot, 222 Kensal Road, London W10 5BN http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vanessa.figueras at xxx.se Sun Sep 13 19:37:44 1998 From: vanessa.figueras at xxx.se (Vanessa Figueras) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 20:37:44 +0200 Subject: Sinister: STHLM MEETING BEFORE GIG!!! References: <19980913164435.9941.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <35FC10F8.2E3597E@swipnet.se> let's all it a date then! Rebecka popgal wrote: > well all you how has got a hold of one of those very lovely tickets of > belle and sebastian listen up!!! > > I and two friends have this wonderful idea that I know you'll all > like... > > We'll meet 17.00 at the tubestation Medborgarplatsen. Just oustide the > store pressbyrÃ¥n by the spärr at the way to götgatan/folkungatan. > > We'll then go to the park Vitabergsparken to play a game of cricket!! > Since jonas, a friend of mine who's dad's from scotland knows how to > play it..rules leaftlets will be handed out.:) > > I though maybe we'd have a picnic if the weather allows it..god hope it > does!! If it would be raining we'd meet up at the samt spot and then > just go from there...I know it would be fun just to meet all..maybe go > to some pub..if the weather is too bad and to cold... > > I do hope that all of you who are able to can come...So that we later on > the concert can have a laugh..and say --hey were the bunch from the > sinister list:) > > well if you have any questions contact me... > > hugs kisses Becka.... > > # go and have a peek at my page it's constantly developing, > http://www.angelfire.com/me/Mizzy # > > ______________________________________________________ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TheeXVirus at xxx.com Sun Sep 13 19:39:36 1998 From: TheeXVirus at xxx.com (TheeXVirus at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:39:36 EDT Subject: Sinister: San Diego Message-ID: Just curious as to whether anyone in the San Diego area listens at all...never able to find anything down here, so... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Sun Sep 13 20:27:36 1998 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:27:36 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: what's an arab strap? In-Reply-To: <3f2f6c4a.35fa3602@aol.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 12 Sep 1998 Thessaly1 at aol.com wrote: > what the heck is an arab strap? "May not be appropriate for younger and more sensitive listmembers." Well, you are all going to figure it out at some point. This URL is perhaps the most delicate way to say it: http://www.leathercreations.com/199.htm The description at the URL above, however, is -not- the most delicate way to say it. If you (or your grandmother, or pastor) might be offended by terms for certain parts of the body that are, well...not clinical, then please blame them and not me. --Mark __ Imminent: SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 "The electricity is no better off than on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mphintz at xxx.com Sun Sep 13 20:30:29 1998 From: Mphintz at xxx.com (Mphintz at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 15:30:29 EDT Subject: Sinister: NYC picnic Message-ID: <896a31f.35fc1d55@aol.com> So we only have one week to go Date: Sunday, September 20th Time: 2 pm. Place: East River Park, 6th Street and FDR Drive Info Line: (917) 337-4498 (for last minutes changes, rain plans, etc.) Email me privately to be put on a picnic-mailing list. Everyone is invited! Cheers :-) Living and loving Matthew +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Sun Sep 13 21:35:07 1998 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 15:35:07 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: The horror! The calmity! The Jane! The Joanna! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 13 Sep 1998, Fluffy Sarah wrote: > Hey Jake, I'm 17 and I think I should tell you that al the "classics" > being tossed around this list are probably all shit anyway (apart from > Nick Drake and whatever tape Tim P!O!O!Kins makes you, and Felt, but As Kevin Matthews (Chicago radio personality) would say, in a mocking, fake-DJ voice, "It doesn't have to be old to be a classic". After much hemming and hawing, I picked up some Nick Drake the other day. The overpriced bookstore had 2 of the individual albums, while the similarly overpriced Tower Records had only the 4-CD boxed set which contains all his recorded works. After consulting a few reference books, I took one reviewer's advice that anyone with one Nick Drake record will eventually need them all. I can say without hesitation that you can go right for the boxed set, _Fruit Tree_. That is not to say Nick Drake's music specifically resembles Belle and Sebastian's, though you would notice certain similarities. The point is that anyone here must enjoy intelligent, hypersensitive, melancholic, folk-influenced songs. So thanks to everyone who mentioned Nick Drake. > *I* KNOW the album is a dirct rip off of DON'T BORE US GET TO THE > CHORUS There are only so many possible chords. Sooner or later some of the same ones are going to show up in the same order. No point in allowing some dead, European composers to spoil a dominant seventh chord for everyone. --Mark __ Imminent: SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 "The electricity is no better off than on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Dstar999 at xxx.com Sun Sep 13 22:02:41 1998 From: Dstar999 at xxx.com (Dstar999 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 17:02:41 EDT Subject: Sinister: Drunken observations Message-ID: <3b2608db.35fc32f1@aol.com> JonnyKat wrote "On a cheerier note, I am listening to The Boy With The Arab Strap LP for the first time, as I write this. It seems to have made all the silly troubles of the world melt away. Ease Your Feet Into The Sea is making me a very happy boy." Jonny boy either I am missing something or you need help. It seems to me that the song in question is dealing with the suicide of a friend and the pained response of the writer who failed to notice the signs or was incapable of preventing it. If this cheers you I need you to explain that to me. On a lighter note did anyone see the Scotsman review of Arab Strap on Friday? A 5 star rating was dispensed with the opinion that Sinister was better ( i'm tempted to agree) That sort of says it all dosn't it? Ciao for now K. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blink at xxx.net Sun Sep 13 22:21:25 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 17:21:25 -0400 Subject: Sinister: He's my #1 pinup Message-ID: <35FC3755.6C48@inexpress.net> (whose bed have your boots been under? ) Yeeee ha there, Ahhh,anticipation is the best feeling,yes? of course,with a belle and sebastian concert is in question,during and then savouring afterwards is also lovely! Heee hee,Sarah..you REALLY hate 'pedal-pushers?' you mean like capri pants,yes? Or the even better name...clam diggers..."I'm going to put on my clam diggers and go hunt for some clams,what are you doing tonight?" Are they really so trendy? No one in my school has worn any yet,it's all cargo pants (including me) now those are comfortable and,so handy! the new album...maybe it's better not to anaylzemand just sit back and enjoy? don't worry your pretty little heads if you don't like chickfactor,(i do!) stevie's a good boy...oh they should all be in the 50 Most Beautiful People issue...i really really love that picture of Stuart David in the art gallery, he looka so dark and artiste,he's my number one pin-up boy...(actually,his carbon copy,at my school,is now eating lunch with me,but he doesn't say anything,his first and only love is his guitar...how..cold..yet lovely he's a dark and forbidden tale that can never be read) are there any Fun Facts on Belle and Sebastian like they do with the boy bands? Like 'Stuart's favourite colour is blue and he loves his mam's homemade haggis (or whatever,that's the only scottish food i know) and in his spare time he crochets,cleans up oil spills and rescues pets from the humane society' ok i was supposed to send this,it really has nothing to do with well you know,anything...cover your eyes sweet kittens,it's arab strap Lactose Intolerant Shagging by Arab Strap (i didn't write this ok) 'i shagged her good,i shagged her good cos she never had a shaggin (repeat many many times) Walk across,the floor..with, a fag in hand and then,i see her and i just,want to shag her...and so,i look to my mate and give him some lager and i say 'feck off,cos i'm getting me a shaggin tonight' So then,in the back,i lay my hand across her,she says 'Feck off!' so i just say 'Feck off you too' and then,i left her and decided to go my own way,and then i met another girl while shopping in the supermarket...I picked up some bad milk, and then after i bought it,i realised i was lactose intolerant,so after kicking the shite out of myself, i turned to my mate....and he said 'Get More Milk.' the end. (isn't it deep? it gave me shivers) (well it's school tomorrow,i have a detention (stupide mr.messier..i'll get you) so,i'll enjoy these last hours,yes?) rompy-pompy! xoxo genevieve :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blink at xxx.net Sun Sep 13 22:39:00 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 17:39:00 -0400 Subject: Sinister: ja,i was supposed to write this a long time ago (when the earth was green...) Message-ID: <35FC3B74.700B@inexpress.net> Jessica Tinystar...yes i'm going to the toronto show(sadly i'm not in montreal but a tiny village that's not on the map..but we have STRAWBERRY FIELDS! and we have a GOLF COURSE! and we have 2(!) Riding stables!)it's looking better and better each day...i just need to know the exact day tickets go on sale..and all will be well... breathe baby breath..i am feeling..calm 1,2,3,4...relaxed...1,2,3,4..all is good yes yes so is there some picnics going down then? i think we need to get organized..everyone else is efficient..you canadians show em what you got....nametags..you mean like at Walmarts..with the little 'Hi!I'm Hank' hee hee,i don't know if i can make the picnic,i might have to watch stuart david from a tree or something..or does he go around with a wig and a scarve and sunglasses? i'm not a scary person,really. L!O!V!E ...genevieve :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From CiaraMacL at xxx.com Sun Sep 13 23:10:29 1998 From: CiaraMacL at xxx.com (CiaraMacL at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:10:29 EDT Subject: Sinister: how do I join ? Message-ID: <4732c1aa.35fc42d5@aol.com> Hi paul, It's Ciara again wanting to join in all this chit chat. I'm no good with computers. Hope you can help. Ciara. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sweaters at xxx.net Sun Sep 13 20:50:52 1998 From: sweaters at xxx.net (Butch Sweaters) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 19:50:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Who's the idiot? Message-ID: <199809132349.TAA26699@postoffice.dca.net> I'm wondering what anyone makes of the last line of this part from "The Rollercoaster Ride": *A puzzle, for the moment settle down to do it with him You're happy cause you're cozy and the rain comes rattling in It tickles, and it's something that is very good for the skin You're waiting for a baby, Baby, watch the idiot running* I love this because it's got all the sexual frankness and ambiguity of meaning that I love Belle and Sebastian for, but I can't quite figure the last lime, i mean line, out. Who's the idiot? Are B&S saying that they're with Momus when it comes to babies? (viz: "His Majesty the Baby"). Anyway, it's a beautiful verse, I was just wondering if anyone else had any impressions... Love love love, Butch Sweaters himself +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JonnyKat at xxx.com Mon Sep 14 00:49:01 1998 From: JonnyKat at xxx.com (JonnyKat at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 19:49:01 EDT Subject: Sinister: No Subject Message-ID: Dstar999 at aol.com wrote: << Jonny boy either I am missing something or you need help. It seems to me that the song in question is dealing with the suicide of a friend and the pained response of the writer who failed to notice the signs or was incapable of preventing it. If this cheers you I need you to explain that to me. >> Wow! I thought "Ease Your Feet In The Sea" was about taking a holiday. Seriously, since you seem to require an explanation of my emotions, the answer is +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From thunderw at xxx.uk Mon Sep 14 01:09:39 1998 From: thunderw at xxx.uk (James) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:09:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: you what?! Message-ID: Fluffy Candarel wrote - "I don't like Isobel. She wore "pedal pushers" in Leeds. How come no-one picked up on that travesty for gods sake? Its eeevil eeevil I tell you!!! And Isobel, YUK, you looked UGLY in them!" UGLY!!??! I can't say any more I'm reeling... Jesus Christ! fucking UGLY?! Right, got that off my chest then. Molly xx PS - Sorry Fluffy, I know you apologised, but it still required a minor exclamation I feel. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MWaggner at xxx.com Mon Sep 14 01:13:41 1998 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 20:13:41 EDT Subject: Sinister: No Subject Message-ID: <70836b59.35fc5fb5@aol.com> > Dstar999 at aol.com wrote: > > << Jonny boy either I am missing something or you need help. It seems to me > that > the song in question is dealing with the suicide of a friend and the pained > response of the writer who failed to notice the signs or was incapable of > preventing it. If this cheers you I need you to explain that to me. >> > I thought it was about the losing of a friend or lover from the stagnation of the relationship possibly, or just because things went wrong maybe due to troubles the friend had... I wouldn't have thought suicide because of the line "Will stay with us till we get old." I just thought the person left, with no real place to go to. But, lyrics and poetry of all sorts are so often open to the interpretation of the person listening/reading them -- and what life experiences that person brings to the hearing of them. There is no denying that beauty is often found in the telling of painful things, especially when the telling is done through the medium of an art form. Then, even ugliness is beauty, when it is well and truthfully done. And beauty should bring us joy. And, this is a beautiful song, in itself. Even sad beautiful songs make me happy, just by their existance. I might politely add that it is rude to personally attack people -- we are happy bunnies here. Wait, no! -- we've become a legion of bedroom saddoes... (I just canNOT keep up! Now I'm worried about myself -- maybe I've become an idea, like StarFluff) but that's no call for bad manners. Listen... this is pish and I'm leaving :) --michele +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erinlew at xxx.com Mon Sep 14 03:11:20 1998 From: erinlew at xxx.com (Erin Lewis) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 19:11:20 PDT Subject: Sinister: so THAT'S why judy's dreaming about horses... Message-ID: <19980914021121.18607.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey kids, Once again, I'm providing an excerpt from the Aquarius Records e-newsletter. I take no responsibility for any factual errors! Some other bands touted in this edition were lambchop, heavy vegetable, and boards of canada. Loves, Miss Erin >BELLE & SEBASTIAN "The Boy With The Arab Strap" lp/cd 8.98/13.98 > Well-informed customer tells us that an arab strap is a sexual >aid for horses that helps their penises to point in the correct >direction. Customer also tells us that the particular B&S song with >this title is making fun of (the band) Arab Strap's lead singer who >is forever whining about his failed relationships. And the lyric >does in fact read, "the boy WITH the arab strap". Make of this what >you will. Current bestseller in the lispy pop department. > The Aquarius Records New Arrivals list has 2431 subscribers. > Thanks for reading. We like your comments so don't be shy. > Please visit our website at http://aquarius.bianca.com. Cheers. > > > * Aquarius Records --------- * > * 1055 Valencia Street * > * San Francisco, CA * > * 94110 USA * > * tel 415.647.2272 * > * fax 415.647.3447 * > * aqua at sirius.com * > * http://aquarius.bianca.com * > > > "It seems to me in England, rock or guitar music is mainstream, > it's kind of goody-goody. Very square. And electronic music is > for rebels: sort of creative, taking risks, where rock music is > playing it safe. In the States it seems to be the other way around. > Maybe it's changing now, I'm not so sure, but here [in the US] > electronic music is goody-goody, disco, and rock music is still > the rebels. If you wanna be bad, you buy a guitar, you definitely > don't buy a drum machine. In England, and you're a teenager, and > you wanna be bad, you buy a drum machine. If you wanna be healthy > and wholesome and eat porridge, you get a guitar." > --Bjork, responding to a question about the differences > between electronic or dance culture in the US vs the UK. > From _Sweater_ magazine. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From PedritoF at xxx.com Mon Sep 14 07:45:13 1998 From: PedritoF at xxx.com (PedritoF at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:45:13 EDT Subject: Sinister: live brodcast Message-ID: <6a0b7b1.35fcbb79@aol.com> hi everyone. i read in someone's email a few days ago something about a B&S broadcast on the radio or internat in oct. or nov. but i lost the message. does anyone know what i'm talking about?? please clear this up for me someone. thanks pedro +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rodbegbie at xxx.com Mon Sep 14 09:20:21 1998 From: rodbegbie at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Fwd: hey Message-ID: <19980914082021.14106.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> E-mail from Helen out of Helen Love. Someone here *might* be interested, I suppose. Rod. ---Girlgabba at aol.com wrote: > > Hi Rod i noticed your on the indiepop lists,could you post up that we are > doing a Chat with Helen Love thing at 1pm Thursday in the Che chat room.I > would do it myself but i dont subscribe to any.We were in the Sport last > Monday hahah,we had a full page "Shed and Ginger"headline,they printed the > lyrics out and everything it was dead funny,also Jonathon Ross was sitting in > for Chris Evans on the Virgin Breakfast show last week and played our single > every morning hehe it was cool.We are recording a Steve Lamacq session on > Wednesday so we have had to cancel the Jack Docherty show,never mind we love > Lammo,seeya,Helenxxx > > > == -- Rod Begbie -- rod at begbie.com -- http://www.begbie.com -- Please ignore the piece-of-crap advertisment that follows _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Mon Sep 14 09:26:21 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:26:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Meet up proposal Message-ID: <01BDDFC1.BC897890@keith@qss.co.uk> Alright people, me and Tag the other night had the same curazzeeee brainwave, and decided that it'd be a nice idea if everyone was able to meet everyone else without having to go to a gig, and naturally getting far too little time to talk to people. So we figured perhaps we'd maybe sort out a great big party for the people on the list (and naturally anyone else), with DJ's and booze. Ideally this would take place at some point in the next few months. Perhaps some time around New Year. What do people think of the idea? The second question of course is where it's going to be. I'd have no trouble arranging a place to do it in Edinburgh and stuff (it'd prevent me sleeping in a flowerbed again too probably), but I'm dubious as to whether people from the south of England would come all that way, and at the moment I figure Manchester's probably the best bet as it's sort of in the middle. Hopefully Tag would be able to sort out somewhere there. Everyone I've spoken to so far reckons it's a good idea so it'd be nice to hear who would actually attend such a thing. It would rock (70's WHO might be played), we would all rule and generally have a good time. Cheers, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Mon Sep 14 11:03:38 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:03:38 Subject: Sinister: Radio Session Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19980914110338.29a70018@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Belle & Sebastian will do a radio session in the Bernard Lenoir's Show on the french radio France Inter on october 5th (the day before the Paris gig). The show is broadcasted on AM band (162 kHz). But you will also be able to listen to this session on the web : http://www.eutelsat.org/radio/1012.html The radio session will start at 9.30 (8.30 in UK). If you want to get informations about the Bernard Lenoir's Show : http://www.radio-france.fr/inter/lenoir/summary.html Philippe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Sep 14 10:55:57 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:55:57 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Now I'm Bent On Going Straight Message-ID: <01bddfc5$df924b60$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Fluffy wittered: Who on the list has bought their golfing pants yet then? I haven't yet, but I have a friend who wears checked pants all the time so I think I have his "street cred cha?" reflecting upon my own good person. I like Mick, he's cool and wears golfing pants. I tried some on the other day, they were Nike and black and very ample for ease of movement, but I bore no resemblance to Tiger Woods, so back on the shelf they went. K wrote: Jonny boy either I am missing something or you need help. It seems to me that the song in question is dealing with the suicide of a friend and the pained response of the writer who failed to notice the signs or was incapable of preventing it. If this cheers you I need you to explain that to me. Be nice. Your interpretation is intriguing, but I don't share it. What's more, I like the song "Freddie's Dead" by Curtis Mayfield, and that's about a Freddie who's dead. I can't explain it, I must be one sick motherfucker. Number 12! That rules! What about Mansun? I got my mum to look up B&S in last week's Sunday Times. She said "arab strap". Actually she said "abba strap, arab strap". I don't think she knows what it means either. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JohnJ at xxx.com Mon Sep 14 11:11:22 1998 From: JohnJ at xxx.com (John Johnston) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:11:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Probing Uranus Message-ID: Whenever I hear the start of Spaceboy Dream I think he's saying he had to go on a trip to "ma arse". I was thinking Stu. mate - your well up their already. But then I thought that might be ill advised. Went shopping on Saturday - 2 shops were playing the album. One was Rory's fault I discovered on going upstairs. My parents have just come back from the Pyrenees. They showed me photos of Pyrenean Mountain Dogs like the original Belle. Huge great brutes they are but so cuddly :) Smashinging into the top 13 at number 12 - Respec' Keith/Tags party idea is FABULOOOS (I'm off to Belgium today so I'm practising the lingo -sorry). I shall be there demonstrating my hard won nickname - "hotfeet" Johnston and if I'm not careful my more common nickname "Oddsocks". I've got a disco toe and I'm gonna use it xx Socks +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Mon Sep 14 10:58:39 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:58:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Videos ... References: <19980911191957.17932.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <35FCE8CF.8555FD11@jeepster.co.uk> hello all ... can i be pedantic for a bit please? Matthew wrote: > One more similarity I noticed was the cover, which shows Chris Geddes > with an arrow through his chest. It's actually a sword, 'cos Mick and Chris are having a sword fight (one of the pictures on the inside of the booklet). Might I say again, that most of the photos were taking on the set of the video for "is it wicked not to care" which, if you're in the UK, will be aired on MTV's Alternative Nation tomorrow (Tuesday) night, possibly with another couple of B&S vids ... Cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Mon Sep 14 11:00:23 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:00:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Boy With An Acronym Strap References: <199809111808_MC2-5935-D6A4@compuserve.com> Message-ID: <35FCE937.F3CDF26D@jeepster.co.uk> yep, me again ... David Moore wrote: > 6) ALways end with a question - who is the guy relaxing in the > deckchair by the river? That's Richard, again another still from the video ... K. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aevans at xxx.uk Mon Sep 14 12:54:12 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:54:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Cheggars plays Pop. Message-ID: <01BDDFDE.C6A863A0@pc07628> David Moore wrote : >4) Nor has anyone drawn attention to the fact that Stuart sang "She's >a B!U!S driver and she's got style" at the end of TBWTAS on Monday night >in the cool of the Shepherds Bush Empire Another classic mishearing, for even in the hush of the bar area, I would swear I heard Stuart say "I'm a sheep rustler and I've got piles". Speaking of Haemorrhoids, Bobby Chariot wrote : >Nice to have you back. Good holiday? All holidays are good, it means I can get away from you lot...ho ho only joking, natch...And just what has got 4 legs and talks perculiar ? Hairy Hermesetas wrote : >I like Mick, he's cool and wears golfing pants. Indeed he does, and you know what ? I have it on good authority that on four-putting on the eighteenth at the Ballybigwilly lynx course two weeks ago resulting in 37 over par for the round, young Mick lost his rag and launched his sand-wedge, impaling young hairy Chris...hence the album cover. and then... >I don't like Isobel. She wore "pedal pushers" in Leeds. Don't be so harsh on the girl, she was probably just trying to fit in with the natives. Katrina wrote : >Belle and Sebastian went in at number 12 on the album chart Choker !! It should have got into the top ten....pah!! Mansun and Hole went straight in in the top ten and all their songs sound the same...at least B&S songs sound like someone elses. Returning to the subject of golfing trossies, does nayone know why they are called plus-fours ???? Answers on a typically rude postcard from Bideford to : Gus Honeybuns Magic Birthdays Westcountry Television PO BOX 666 Drakes Circus Plymouth. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From babyblu at xxx.uk Mon Sep 14 12:48:23 1998 From: babyblu at xxx.uk (Rory Mackie) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:48:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Like bees round honey. Message-ID: <35FD0287.4990@gold.globalcafe.co.uk> Blimey! I managed to get TWATTYBUS (nice acronym Seb, cheers) piped through the weedy P.A. at work for the first time on Saturday and blow me if, during the strains of 'Ease your feet..', a list member didn't pop his round the poetry section and introduce himself (Hi John!) Is this a universal principle? Does the album contain subliminal message of a frequency only Sinisterites can hear? Does this act as a clarion call, forcing us to flock to the point of broadcast against our will? If so then everyone back to mine tonight for a game of filthy scrabble. You *will* be there. Oh yes. Is anyone whose off to the NY gigs likely to be around those parts on October 20-25th? Myself and my Linda are going to the Big Cucumber for a week or so and would love to meet up with any NY listtes or anyone going to the November gigs very, very early. StayLuckyRoryxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From d.barker at xxx.uk Mon Sep 14 12:58:13 1998 From: d.barker at xxx.uk (Cassell Professional Publishing) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1998 12:58:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Monday Poem Message-ID: <0004022dfd4f$57bbbb00$7b65e4d4@server> Hi kids The delightful Debbie volunteered me at virtual gunpoint to post this week's verse. Problem is, I had a bit of a bad experience with poetry when I was 17 (blame Sylvia Plath), and ever since, I've never been able to take it seriously. So all I know are silly poems, like this one: A girl I once knew had a theory That she was of Irish descent Her name was Fionna O'Leary So I guess that she knew what she meant Fionna and I become lovers In a chapel one Sunday in Hull It wasn't that we were attracted It was just that the sermon was dull She loved me because I was honest I loved her because she was fat She shed thirty pounds so I slept around You can't get more honest than that The relationship finished with fireworks On March the fifth, just before nine If Guy Fawkes had been four months later This might be a better last line I hope this satisfies your craving for verse. Incidentally, on the seagull/eagle front, my hearing must be worse than I thought. I always assumed that Isobel was declaring her support for Liverpool Football Club: If there was a Friedel Would you love me as a Riedle? No, maybe not... Later, DAVID +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Mon Sep 14 12:59:30 1998 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Dr C.B.Stride) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:59:30 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Cheggars plays Pop. Message-ID: <12F42A095075@woodhead.shef.ac.uk> > > Returning to the subject of golfing trossies, does nayone know why they are called plus-fours ???? I dunno - but you can also get shorter versions called plus-twos!! Chris (a golfer who doesn't wear such sad clothes) C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk *** daytime: 0114 2223262 *** *** FAX: 0114 2727206 *** *** evening: 0114 2306539 *** "Watford FC Supporters - South Yorkshire branch" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mjh18 at xxx.uk Mon Sep 14 13:10:40 1998 From: mjh18 at xxx.uk (M.J. Hibbett) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:10:40 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Cheggars plays Pop. In-Reply-To: <12F42A095075@woodhead.shef.ac.uk> from "Dr C.B.Stride" at Sep 14, 98 12:59:30 pm Message-ID: <24280.199809141210@harrier.le.ac.uk> > > > > > > Returning to the subject of golfing trossies, does nayone > know why they are called plus-fours ???? Ooh! Ooh! THE ANSWER was on that Jilly Gordon programme - it's cos the width of FLARE is four inches. > I dunno - but you can also get shorter versions called plus-twos!! And ditto here. And who let Pedal Pushers back in anyway? On a B&S TIP, listened to Tigermilk over the weekend for the first time in ages, and blow me (for lo i am a presidential candidate), but it wasn't a PATCH on TBWTAS. Nurts, and i was all ready to go into Full Manics Mode and prefer the earlier stuff too. The Independent on Sunday had a big SCARY and RUM article about Fat People and Fat Admirers, which That Poem reminded me off, not an appetising thort for a M Hello everyone, I'm looking for someone in France to translate a Salako article that is in this months "Les Inrockuptibles" magazine? If anyone can help, can they please mail me privately. Thank you :) Cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tim.groves at xxx.uk Mon Sep 14 11:13:00 1998 From: tim.groves at xxx.uk (Tim Groves) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:13:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Meet up proposal Message-ID: I live in London and would probably make it up to the grim north. Have you an idea for when ? tim keith at qss.co.uk on 14/09/98 09:26:00 To: sinister at majordomo.net cc: (bcc: Tim Groves/Interfocus) Subject: Sinister: Meet up proposal Date: Mon, Sep 14, 1998 9:26 AM Subject: Sinister: Meet up proposal Alright people, me and Tag the other night had the same curazzeeee brainwave, and decided that it'd be a nice idea if everyone was able to meet everyone else without having to go to a gig, and naturally getting far too little time to talk to people. So we figured perhaps we'd maybe sort out a great big party for the people on the list (and naturally anyone else), with DJ's and booze. Ideally this would take place at some point in the next few months. Perhaps some time around New Year. What do people think of the idea? The second question of course is where it's going to be. I'd have no trouble arranging a place to do it in Edinburgh and stuff (it'd prevent me sleeping in a flowerbed again too probably), but I'm dubious as to whether people from the south of England would come all that way, and at the moment I figure Manchester's probably the best bet as it's sort of in the middle. Hopefully Tag would be able to sort out somewhere there. Everyone I've spoken to so far reckons it's a good idea so it'd be nice to hear who would actually attend such a thing. It would rock (70's WHO might be played), we would all rule and generally have a good time. Cheers, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------- Received: from envy.ph.ED.AC.uk by polson.fabrik.com with SMTP (Fabrik F07.3-000) id SINN.3848409 at polson.fabrik.com ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:32:46 +0100 Received: from localhost (daemon at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA10429; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:29:27 +0100 Received: by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (bulk_mailer v1.9); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:28:23 +0100 Received: (from majordomo at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA10346 for sinister-outgoing; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:28:19 +0100 Received: from jaguars.cableinet.net (jaguars-int.cableinet.net [193.38.113.9]) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA10338 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:28:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 30618 invoked from network); 14 Sep 1998 08:28:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO star) (194.41.1.129) by jaguars with SMTP; 14 Sep 1998 08:28:17 -0000 Received: from [194.41.1.37] by star (NTMail 3.02.07) with ESMTP id ea030554 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:28:05 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:26:22 +0100 Message-ID: <01BDDFC1.BC897890 at keith@qss.co.uk> From: Keith Watson To: "'Sinister List'" Subject: Sinister: Meet up proposal Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:26:21 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4008 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: Keith Watson X-List: Sinister ---------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mick at xxx.com Mon Sep 14 15:06:57 1998 From: mick at xxx.com (Mick McMick) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:06:57 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Video(s) References: <199809111808_MC2-5935-D6A4@compuserve.com> <35FCE937.F3CDF26D@jeepster.co.uk> Message-ID: <35FD2301.3D894A75@indiepop.com> Katrina House wrote: > That's Richard, again another still from the video ... Oh Katrina, how you tantalize us! Actually, is there the possibility that the video will make its way to the states? Any of the other videos, perhaps? They've made...what, five? Something like that. Tell me that there's a nice young man or woman who has both a PAL VCR and an NTSC one and would copy some for poor US listees. Please? =P It's not our fault our country chose the video standard the rest of the known world doesn't use as their only standard. I'm gonna have to buy one of those PAL thingees one of this days. (sigh) The Boy without an Arab Strap, /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - mick at indiepop.com - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - sandcastlerecords at indiepop.com | | Sandcastle Homepage - http://indiepop.com/sandcastle/ | | | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NeilD at xxx.uk Mon Sep 14 16:09:38 1998 From: NeilD at xxx.uk (Neil Dewhurst) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:09:38 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Plus fours Message-ID: <10714C6FC248D2119ED700805F7DF755042E17@NCMSERVER> And I thought I was the only one tragic enough to have watched that thing with Jilly Goulden. Time to shrink back under my desk. I was looking for a job, and then I found a job... I've spent six hours fixing my computer after a week off. Welcome back to sixty emails, mainly from people moaning about something or other. It was too quiet, blah blah blah, we had to wait, blah blah blah. Quit moaning people, please. I suppose that, having asked every weirdo (and lots of perfectly charming people too) in the Firkin pub if they were Kevan Cooke, or knew him, then I was just grateful to actually be in the Empire at last. I met Sean Hughes, but I didn't realise. Time for a meeting about the world's worst website (http://www.ncm.co.uk if anyone's interested.) Catch you beautiful people later. Neil. No alarms and no surprises. Please. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tridophelom at xxx.com Mon Sep 14 16:45:22 1998 From: tridophelom at xxx.com (will grey) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 08:45:22 PDT Subject: Sinister: more similarities Message-ID: <19980914154523.24004.qmail@hotmail.com> hi... anyone notice how much the super-cool "rollercoaster" sounds like luna? and how "seymour stein" sounds a bit like "sister lovers"-era big star, especially on the line "i hear dinner went well"...? just wondering... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kcooke at xxx.uk Mon Sep 14 15:36:00 1998 From: kcooke at xxx.uk (Kevan Cooke) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:36:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: TWATTYBUS in-store album chart positions Message-ID: <6AFF0430016A1600@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> I don't really know what these charts represent but I went into Southampton at lunchtime, to buy the new Tindersticks singles/rarities compilation, and made a mental note of the TWATTYBUS in-store album chart positions: HMV - 8 Virgin - 4 Incidentally, my old friends at CDZONE are now suggesting that there is a Field Mice CD about to be released. Would anyone like to comment on this? There has usually been at least an unsubstantiated rumour before they start listing things. Kevan The Fat Slug +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Mon Sep 14 17:33:06 1998 From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:33:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: TWATTYBUS in-store album chart positions Message-ID: <00a801bddffd$5a211780$4429c22b@bond.broadcast> >I don't really know what these charts represent but I went into Southampton >at lunchtime, to buy the new Tindersticks singles/rarities compilation, and >made a mental note of the TWATTYBUS in-store album chart positions: > >HMV - 8 >Virgin - 4 Proof that marketing does work? In Reading TwattyBus is displayed facing the front door in a big display all to itself, whereas in HMV it's just in amongst the others. If this is the same in Southhampton it could explain why it is selling better in Virgin (sorry, but as a psychologist I am fed up telling people advertising does work, so I jump on any proof I can). Whilst I'm here, I've noticed talk about list crushes. Now, I've not met any list girls yet, so I don't have any of those. However, I do have a couple of list heroes that I'd like to thank. Firstly, Ben Ferneyhough, who let me hear Tigermilk (can I say he copied it for me on the list?), and some great sessions as well. And Kevan Cooke, who not only got me tickets for Shephard's Bush after I was too lazy to get mine in time, but also supplied the bottle of Bacardi that got me drunk on Saturday night. Cheers guys. Oh, and clam-pickers are the worst piece of female clothing since calottes (sp?). I don't think Isobelle wore them in London, but then I thought she was pretty sexy so probably wouldn't have noticed. Michael +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From d.barker at xxx.uk Mon Sep 14 17:43:39 1998 From: d.barker at xxx.uk (Cassell Professional Publishing) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1998 17:43:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: just another Manics monday Message-ID: <0002022dfd77$78ed7980$7b65e4d4@server> There's a very nice review of the album in the new Mojo, by the way, with a mini-interview with Stevie. Also, there was a good review of the London show in yesterday's Observer, together with a very cute pic of Stuart in his felt t-shirt. Unfortunately, the review (although positive) tried to set the band up as the 'anti-Oasis', which is the kind of journalism that makes me yawn... Everyone's so desperate to create a scene right now, and it would be such a shame if B and S got lumped in with anything. My delightful girlfriend has managed to get the band into our forthcoming Dictionary of Slang publication - in the shops for Christmas, and well worth the money for containing 2100 terms for masturbation alone. Anyway, if you look under the word Off (which has many definitions), one of them includes the example: Sarah was grooving off Belle and Sebastian. With publicity like this, no wonder the band don't need to bother. Oh, the album is number 5 in Our Price, by the way. Isn't it true that something like a quarter of all CDs sold in the UK are sold through Woolworths? I'm sure I read that somewhere. Take care, DAVID +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Mon Sep 14 17:44:23 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:44:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Start spreading the newts Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22230AB8@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Well, thanks to you all being so positive, and a huge thank you to the lovely Todd Beatty, cos I've just booked my flight to JFK and there's nothing I can do about it but get swept along in the excitement of it all... Thanks also to Tim and Paul who suggested potential accommodation - any further advice on where to stay for (relatively) cheap would be lapped up; I'm staying 5 nights, though this can be changed if necessary. Ohmigod! I can't believe I've actually spent £247.45 of my precious English pounds (plus tickets) and I'm loving it!!! Anyone who has the slightest reason to email me privately on this subject please do (what to do, where to go, who to see, ad nauseam), as I do feel a small knot of fear building up in my tummy - I don't think a fortnight in Canada 3 years ago has prepared this shy wee lad for the extravagant riches of my dream destination... I'm slightly dazed by the whole shenanigans and have little to add on the subject of Belle and her mate Sebastian. Hmm - oh yes - how can anyone say that Tigermilk's not a patch on Towboats? I'm not the type to be indier-than-thou (honest!), I just think you're very wrong. I may have overlistened to it over the last few weeks, but to me it's a distant third, with only songs like the title track and Sleep...Around making it as essential as I'd hoped. It's still fucking fantastic, as you all know, but there's a good half-dozen songs on it that I have no desire to hear for a while, and even after 6 solid months of pawing over the other two I've never been able to say that. Sorry to end on a negative note, but I'm sure in a week's time I'll look at this message and barely be able to believe what tosh I was speaking. So for now I'm going to go home, bung The Congos on the stereo and relax like a particularly unenthused sloth. Ta ra, Biondino +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mwsnyder at xxx.edu Mon Sep 14 18:06:48 1998 From: mwsnyder at xxx.edu (matthew william snyder) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:06:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: ticket swap? Message-ID: <199809141706.NAA05770@red.seas.upenn.edu> hello all, in an effort to avoid horrible ticketmonster charges (which are $5.50 per ticket for the NY show, plus the $3 shipping cost), i would like to propose a little trade. i would be more than happy to pick up tickets for the philly show at the box office (no service charge) and send them to a NY listee who can do the same for me for the nov. 2 show. this also goes for the DC show (if it's not sold out yet (?)). please email me privately if you're interested. sticking it to the man, matthew +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From heinitz at xxx.net Mon Sep 14 16:19:48 1998 From: heinitz at xxx.net (Heinitz) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 98 15:19:48 GMT Subject: Sinister: sweet dreams indeed Message-ID: <980914151948.n0001354.heinitz@mail.clara.net> do i need to tell you how much i love TABBYWARS? last week i returned from town with an empty wallet but a happy smile, for i had at last the album. i have never needed an album so much, i have never experienced such pain as those five days i had to wait while everyone else got to hear the tunes before me. but all is well, now. i am experiencing involuntary handclaps as i type. last night i had a dream that was strange even for a dream of mine. i woke up with a slightly bewildered expression as the memories of the dream filtered back into my head. i was watching ocean colour scene (!) play in front of a few people in some sort of school. it was raining much, and everybody was wet. then ocean colour scene merged into one and became elliot smith, and the sun shone and dried everybody off and we were all happy. however, as he played and sung, mr. smith began to inflate not unlike violet beauregarde in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. when he was roughly spherical, he stopped playing, and started eating yellow flowers with his feet. that's as much as i can remember clearly. it's reminded me of a dream i had a while ago which involved wandering around a department store with tim chipping from Orlando and a small blue bird with a long tail, which culminated in discovering richey james in a dark corner of a bookshop. abi, who's wondering What It All Means +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From thunderw at xxx.uk Mon Sep 14 18:29:17 1998 From: thunderw at xxx.uk (James) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 18:29:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: meet-up Message-ID: I'll come! If anyone loves me, do it before January 6th, because I'm going to Israel on that day, and I won't be back for five months. (what a great send-off though) Molly xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Mon Sep 14 18:48:08 1998 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:48:08 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Matches Message-ID: <35FD56D8.4D41424F@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Hi all, this afternoon i wanted to smoke a cigarette, but i didn't have matches to take fire. I propose , to jeepster's merchandise,to do b&s's matches. I'll buy a lot of them. Marco#7. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a.leonard at xxx.uk Mon Sep 14 17:55:02 1998 From: a.leonard at xxx.uk (A Leonard) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 98 17:55:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Unreleased Songs Message-ID: <13439.384791390@x400.icl.co.uk> Howdy, Can some kind human please help me out. Id like a list of all the unreleased Belle and Sebastian songs. These are the ones I can think of - are there any others? 1. London Has Let Me Down Again. 2. Hurleys Having Dreams. 3. Pocket-Book Angel. 4. The Loneliness Of A Middle Distance Runner. 5. Tigermilk (instrumental). 6. Modern Rock Song. 7. Slow Graffiti. 8. Rhoda. 9. Wrong Love. 10. I Know Where The Summer Goes. PS. Hello Chris, Torr and all the other Leonard family members! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Mon Sep 14 18:49:26 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Fluffy Sarah) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 18:49:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I! HATE! PEDAL! PUSHERS! (and if you don't care, so what nyah nyah) Message-ID: Ah-haaa.... In message <35FC3755.6C48 at inexpress.net>, blink at inexpress.net writes >Heee hee,Sarah..you REALLY hate 'pedal-pushers?' you mean like capri >pants,yes? Or the even better name...clam diggers..."I'm going to put on >my clam diggers and go hunt for some clams,what are you doing tonight?" >Are they really so trendy? No one in my school has worn any yet,it's all >cargo pants (including me) now those are comfortable and,so handy! HA! Yes! Pedal Pushers ARE EVIL! Following on - you must be a pretty evil person to wear them, OR, just seriously misguided. In everything. Poor Isobel. I am sure she didn't mean it....please someone tell me she was forced to wear them. Yes Pookie, I HATE them!! clam diggers! Exactly! Ooh, I'm jus' gonna get dem clams and thats my saturday night sorted...aargh! YES they are so trendy here. All the trendy dudes wear them. Thank the lord thou are not here. I wear my purple pants and my black pants and my lovely selection of skirts and my trainers all the time. It has become a principle to wear them all the time. 'COS - 1) they is comfortable 2)It pisses all my DM wearing mates off :) are cargo pants combats? 2 of my friedns went out and bought a pair on the same day - it seems slightly bad to wear them now... > >don't worry your pretty little heads if you don't like >chickfactor,(i do!) Yeey! I aint the only one! YES I think it's lovely. SO phththththtth! to anyone who hates it. >i really really love that picture of >Stuart David in the art gallery, he looka so dark and artiste,he's my >number one pin-up boy... Yes well just be glad you can't smell him.....berrlimey missus. OI! You!! Adrian Evans! You called me : >Hairy Hermesetas and that isn't my name! And it's not even funny! And I didn't giggle at it! I got ANNOYED YOU YOU YOU SMELLYBELLY!!!! > He then carried on blathering absolute twaddle (and Mister Miller I DO NOT WITTER - I WIBBLE) like this : >Don't be so harsh on the girl, she was probably just trying to fit in with the >natives. There is NO EXCUSE! It can't be right, I must have imagined it. It.. it can't be real....and you do know you have insulted EVERYONE in Leeds dreadfully now. You just wait. You just lie awake at night waiting for the hordes of Leeds to come and take their revenge.... I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Candarel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From glundell at xxx.COM Mon Sep 14 20:16:25 1998 From: glundell at xxx.COM (Gina Lundell) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:16:25 -0500 Subject: Sinister: BS in Chicago Message-ID: Hello, all, When Belle and Sebastian comes to Chicago, there is a slight chance that they will do an instore the day of their performance at Reckless Records. I should hopefully know for sure closer to the date. have a good day, jkb _____________________________________ This message has been sent by Jason Broccardo. I am the temporary Administrative Assistant in the Chicago office during Gina Lundell's absence. Adobe Systems Inc. 6133 N. River Road, Suite 740 Rosemont, IL 60018 847.384.7311 847.384.7350 fax glundell at adobe.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Mon Sep 14 19:59:29 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:59:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: merchandise References: <35F78271.D160618A@prodigy.net> Message-ID: <35FD6791.48453B87@jeepster.co.uk> i think david is hoping to put some of the posters for sale on the web-site in the near future ... ... stay tuned! cheers, Katrina. snekyscp at prodigy.net wrote: > > does anyone know if any b&s posters are available, if matador is giving > promo posters to record stores? -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Mon Sep 14 20:03:23 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:03:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Boy With The Questions About 'Arab Strap' References: <63e38fdd.35f59a7f@aol.com> Message-ID: <35FD687B.84D5C70C@jeepster.co.uk> Hi again everyone, SpaceboyUK at aol.com wrote: > SUBJECT 1- US & UK LP DIFFERENCES: > > Ok the album is lovely!! but where is the legendary B&S story > inside the case? i find none. is there on eon the UK CD? > are there any differences in the UK & US versions of the CD? there are four different versions of the album so far, Jeepsters' (UK & Eire), Matadors' (North America & Canada), Delabel (continental Europe) and Toshiba EMI Virgin Japan (Japan). The only differences between these copies, is that the Japanese one features a little insert with all the lyrics printed in Japanese and a little biog of B&S (again, printed in Japanese!). there will be an Australian release before the end of the year, but again, that will be no different to the UK version. (oh, and if anyone wants to be smart, yes there are slightly different record company details on each territories release, but that is OBVIOUS and it would be silly to try and contradict on this point!) cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zulu at xxx.uk Mon Sep 14 20:28:44 1998 From: zulu at xxx.uk (Colin Campbell) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:28:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: some rubbish Message-ID: <199809141928.UAA29196@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> this is probably really boring, but they are called plus fours coz they were four inches longer than standard breaches, none of that jilly gouldon bollocks. Those awfull pedal pushers are only back coz some poncy designer wathched grease and thought lets make the female population of britain look ridiculous, ha ha. sorry about that. colin. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paul.gardiner2 at xxx.uk Mon Sep 14 20:44:26 1998 From: paul.gardiner2 at xxx.uk (Paul Gardiner) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:44:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Debut Post and Scottish Snow Patrol Date! Message-ID: <000501bde018$1c23ff40$cc9375c2@pgsc04066> hello to everyone, this is my first post after a month of hiding out in the shadows (the cold, dark type that is, not the hank marvin type). before I continue a little bit of Snow Patrol news I heard on Saturday. The band will be playing in Kirkcaldy, Scotland on Friday 23 October in the Path Tavern which is a tiny pub which holds about 75 people at the most. The landlady of the pub told me it is a pay at the door type thing and about 3 pounds to get in and who am I to argue? After all the pedal pusher furore I decided to try and find out what the hell they looked like. The only picture I found was this lady penelopy type one at http://www.thevision.net/alana/genepic.JPG If this is not what they look like please someone tell me! Fashion was never my strong suit. Finally I am delighted that my home town Dundee got a mention on Seymour Stein and to all homesick, exiled Dundonians, you are not missing much by being away. Latest Dundee music news....Grouchos has moved to a new shop in the Overgate but is about to be demolished and Chalmers and Joy has shut down to be replaced by a mini-market :( thank you Paulg +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Mon Sep 14 20:12:17 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:12:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: jeepster-news: Belle & Sebastian Toronto gig/snow patrol London gig Message-ID: <35FD6A91.575043AE@jeepster.co.uk> hello people, a few of you were asking for more details regarding the show in Toronto on Friday October 24th ... here's hoping i can help: 1) Tickets cost $16.00 Canadian Dollars 2) Tickets go on sale this THURSDAY September 17th 3) The gig is 19+ ages only Alrighty ... onto t'other Jeepster band news ... ************************************************************************ snow patrol play the London Borderline tomorrow (Tuesday) night, September 15th ... it's cheapo to get again (no more than a fiver i think) and Magoo (Chemikal Underground's only non-Scottish signing) will be there too! Doors are at 8.00 pm and snow patrol should be onstage at about 9.00/9.15 pm. The band also play Oxford, The Point on Wed 16th, Cheltenham, The Attic on Thurs 17th, Bristol, Louisiana on Fri 18th and somewhere in Aldershot on Saturday night! ************************************************************************ that's it, oh, but can i be naughty enough to plug the Arab Strap gig in London @ Queen Elizabeth Hall next Monday 21st! should be an excellent night ... hope to see you at one of the gigs! cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a message from the Jeepster Records news mailing list. Visit our site at http://www.jeepster.co.uk for more info. To unsubscribe yourself from this list send a message to majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'unsubscribe news' in the body of the message Any problems? mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Mon Sep 14 22:05:31 1998 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:05:31 -0400 Subject: Sinister: chubby knees Message-ID: >HA! Yes! Pedal Pushers ARE EVIL! Following on - you must be a pretty >evil person to wear them, OR, just seriously misguided. In everything. Oh, I've always loved capri pants (aka pedal pushers, aka clam diggers)! They can make you feel quite sassy when driving in a car with the top down, or hanging out the moonroof of a Volvo (prime capri pant-wearing activities) or even just shopping with a scarf around your head. Quite Emma Peel, if I may say so. They're flash with trainers and tank tops and a cardigan and Dr Scholls sandals, and best of all they hide my knees (which I find are a little too chubby for my tastes, my legs are fine but I do have chubby knees). Now capri pants with platform shoes, that's not right, but with trainers there's nothing wrong. Trendy kids all wear them with their platform running shoes and teeny little tops with too much makeup on, but I can't help how much I love those pants. And I made a few pairs too, for the summer, one has cargo-like pockets on the side which is so handy! All of you who hate capri pants and call them clam diggers, you've just not seem the right sort of pair, mine are Stussy Sista hip-huggers made of sweatpant material and they really are sublime, none of that stretch denim shit for me. My trainers are also lovely, they're old skool with bright orange and purple arrows on the sides, they go quite well with my backpack which has a reflective stripe on the back. I do hope some of you can abandon your hostility towards capri pants and see that they are not evil, they're just for those of us who are knee-shy. truly, jessicaxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mnielsen at xxx.edu Tue Sep 15 00:44:59 1998 From: mnielsen at xxx.edu (MONTE NIELSEN) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:44:59 -0700 (MST) Subject: Sinister: tigermilk Message-ID: <199809142344.QAA11614@aztec2.asu.edu> I was wondering if there is anyone in the U.S. who would be willing to tape or trade me a copy of Tigermilk. I use to live in Nebraska (now Arizona) so it was impossible for me to find a copy. You can e-mail me privately. Thanks, Monte -- q +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From debbie.spiers at xxx.ca Mon Sep 14 22:52:15 1998 From: debbie.spiers at xxx.ca (debbie.spiers at xxx.ca) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:52:15 -0400 () Subject: Sinister: new fan Message-ID: i don't know if this works, but i'm trying. i'm from toronto, canada and have spent the last two summers in europe trying to see belle and sebastian. i haven't seen anything new in stores and the web pages don't seem to have been updated in a year. are they still around?? nobody in toronto know who belle and sebastian are, so i'm alone here. somebody please help!! my address debbie.spiers at utoronto.ca thanx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seilsd at xxx.net Tue Sep 15 01:42:11 1998 From: seilsd at xxx.net (Damon Seils) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:42:11 -0400 Subject: Sinister: wash d.c. show Message-ID: <35FDB7E3.EE9FCF97@earthlink.net> Very quickly... Tickets for the Washington, D.C., show at the Black Cat are now on sale through Ticketmaster. They are something like $13 or $14, plus all of the crap service charges. If you want to avoid some of the service charges, you can purchase tickets in person at the Black Cat's box office. The show is on October 30, and you can find the Black Cat's concert information by calling 202-667-7960 or by going to their little Web site at http://www.washingtonpost.com/yp/blackcat/. Umm...by the way, I'm only assuming that this information is correct because I have actually bought my tickets. I would imagine that means everything is confirmed, etc. But, Katrina and David, feel free to paddle me if I've said anything misleading. Or even if not. Dirty Damon Number Two +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Riddley13 at xxx.com Tue Sep 15 01:44:57 1998 From: Riddley13 at xxx.com (Riddley13 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:44:57 EDT Subject: Sinister: the bright side Message-ID: <1808c266.35fdb889@aol.com> Today I rode my bike to get tickets to the Nov 2 show in NYC. Tickets I now have, but my bike I do not. In the less than five minutes spent picking up the tickets, someone took bolt cutters to my lock and made off with my bicycle. [Insert many expletives here.] I took the train home in a daze with the only consolation being the tickets to see Belle and Sebastian. I can always get another bike. I think I would have been more pissed off if the show had been sold out. some of my friends don't understand that sentiment (the ones not going to the show, obviously) but I figured most of you would. i better put these tickets in the safe now ... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From twinkle at xxx.net Tue Sep 15 01:58:30 1998 From: twinkle at xxx.net (petula) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:58:30 GMT Subject: Sinister: new fan/ Toronto show Message-ID: <199809150058.AAA04079@trapdoor.aracnet.net> Hi Debbie and everyone, Haven't posted in ages, bet you forgot all about me--unless you're one of the darksiders on irc. At 05:52 PM 9/14/1998 -0400, debbie.spiers at utoronto.ca wrote: >i don't know if this works, but i'm trying. i'm from toronto, canada and >have spent the last two summers in europe trying to see belle and >sebastian. i haven't seen anything new in stores and the web pages don't >seem to have been updated in a year. >are they still around?? >nobody in toronto know who belle and sebastian are, so i'm alone here. >somebody please help!! A few things: 1. At the end of this post you'll see the URL for the mailing list website, which will give you all the latest info you'll need, as well as links to oodles of other sites. Are you s*bscribed? Which webpages are you looking at anyhow? Just in case you're not subbed, the URL is: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister 2. You can get the new album just about anywhere in downtown Toronto, from the big HMV at 333 Yonge St. to the indie shops on Queen St. W and thereabouts. Got mine at HMV for $18.99--boo hiss for buying it there, I know I know. 3. Lastly, you are not the only one in Toronto who knows them--though trust me, I know the feeling. We are there, lurking about, but haven't gotten off our sorry asses to organize a picnic. Yet. However: Belle & Sebastian Saturday, October 24th -- Opera House As Katrina has mentioned, tickets go on sale @ $16 a pop this Thursday at Ticketmaster (boo hiss), Rotate This (downtown, Queen & Bathurst) and Sonic Temple (though who in their right mind would travel to North York to buy a ticket, I don't know.) It's 19+ and I know they are very strict about carding, so either show up early and smuggle in with the band, or you know, have some ID. *** [May I just get a complaint out of the way and register my dismay at the choice of venue. Evil bouncers and horrible choice of drinks at the bar. Be warned, do not bring large knapsacks because they are likely to go through them or make you check them, the bastards! Cameras are probably also forbidden, depending on how busy it is. I have seen many a time when they had bouncers roaming the venue, making sure no one was taking pictures, handing out flyers or smoking that stuff that smells funny. Not that any of you would do that, of course. ;-) Anyhow, perhaps we can all gang up on them, tie them up and then have a lovely time. Or perhaps the owner will think "Pah! Belle & Sebastian, won't be but a bunch of cardie wearing biscuit nibbling wussies, no security guards needed." ] *** And though I can't attend if there's a meet-up on the Saturday before the show, myself and my darling surprise guest could probably make it to a picnic on the Sunday. Provided we aren't still passed out from the festivities of the night before, of course. 5 1/2 weeks until we rule, damnit, elisabeth xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paiku at xxx.com Tue Sep 15 02:44:21 1998 From: paiku at xxx.com (jubilee ?) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 18:44:21 PDT Subject: Sinister: toronto show: oh woe is me Message-ID: <19980915014422.17130.qmail@hotmail.com> hello- i'm sorry but i must moan about this. My stomach turned when i saw that the show is 19+. I mean i think this made me physically sick. When you've been looking forward to something for months only to get crushed by 3 little characters which in this case happen to be 19+ it's not a nice feeling at all. Right now i'm in a state of denial, which will turn into panic, then if i can't find a way to get in anyway, it will turn to anger and chronic consumtion of PEZ candies. preferably not like the ones i just ate which were horrible stale. Someone help. i need help. I think that crying is not out of the question in this situation for me. Nooooo, i haven't just made myself look ridiculous in front of 800 people, awesome. sigh CRAP what a sticky situation i didn't think the belle and sebastian would set 19+ dates, but there goes my optimism down the plug hole. anyway sorry about all my whinging and thank you if you humoured me and read. i really like ducks though, and they'll never make me be 19+ to uhm, watch them swim. or something. so thank god for small favours. right thank you BYE sarah ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Tue Sep 15 02:48:43 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 18:48:43 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Elvis & Spaceboy Lyrics Message-ID: <000901bde04a$fa627480$c79fcdcf@brier> Hellooall; Again, a call for the lyrics to "A Century Of Elvis" and "A Space Boy Dream". Can anyone E-mai them directly to me, or tell me where I can get them? And what's Stuart's fascination with putting his dad in songs? A nice tribute, I think. Thanks in advance. Brier Random -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whatev at xxx.com Tue Sep 15 05:07:03 1998 From: whatev at xxx.com (Steven) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:07:03 -0400 Subject: Sinister: what's an arab strap? Message-ID: <01bde05e$4c4cef60$50d2b4cf@station2> umm...we sell these devices at the store where I work(for real), but we call them English cock cages. I thought some of you might be interested to know that... I think that "the boy with the English cock cage" doesn't have as nice a ring to it, though :) Steven -----Original Message----- From: Mark Kolmar To: sinister at majordomo.net Date: Sunday, September 13, 1998 3:28 PM Subject: Re: Sinister: what's an arab strap? >> what the heck is an arab strap? > >"May not be appropriate for younger and more sensitive listmembers." > >Well, you are all going to figure it out at some point. This URL is >perhaps the most delicate way to say it: > >http://www.leathercreations.com/199.htm > >--Mark > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From whatev at xxx.com Tue Sep 15 05:32:47 1998 From: whatev at xxx.com (Steven) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:32:47 -0400 Subject: Sinister: twattybus? Message-ID: <01bde061$e40c41e0$50d2b4cf@station2> OK, I'm new to this list, so forgive me if this has been brought up before. I've searched the archives, and I still can't figure out what TWATTYBUS means! I'm probably just being really blind, but I can't be the only one. thanks Steven, who just bought his tickets for the Chicago date today! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whatev at xxx.com Tue Sep 15 05:35:34 1998 From: whatev at xxx.com (Steven) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:35:34 -0400 Subject: Sinister: twattybus? Message-ID: <01bde062$477049c0$50d2b4cf@station2> OK, i'm new to the list, so forgive me if this has been brought up before. I've searched the archives,and I still can't figure out what TWATTYBUS means. I'm probably just being blind, but I can't be the only one. thanks Steven who just bought his tickets for the Chicago date today! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gary at xxx.uk Tue Sep 15 07:12:44 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 07:12:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: RE: sinister-digest V2 #347 In-Reply-To: <199809150057.BAA03246@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000001bde06f$daa24060$a40f93c3@whelan> Jessica wrote .... > >HA! Yes! Pedal Pushers ARE EVIL! Following on - you must be a pretty > >evil person to wear them, OR, just seriously misguided. In everything. > > Oh, I've always loved capri pants (aka pedal pushers, aka clam diggers)! I don't think it's the pants themselves which are the problem, it's the accessories, it can't be much fun walking round town with a pair of furry dice swinging round you neck. 87) I apologise, there was no excuse for such a sad joke, I will be suitably punished. Gary +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Wed Sep 16 10:01:35 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:01:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: B&S PEZ MACHINES Message-ID: <199809150907.KAA29810@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> In an email to the list Sarah (or Jubilee?) wrote "Right now i'm in a state of denial, which will turn into panic, then if i can't find a way to get in anyway, it will turn to anger and chronic consumtion of PEZ candies" Which gave me an idea............. Knowing that the jeepster merchandising department are always wanting new ideas I thought that you could have a complete series of B&S pez dispensers ( you know, the ones where you tip the head back and it gives you a little sweet. Of course you would have one of each member of the band (thats 8 already) Oh and another2 of Isobel for being so stunning (that makes 10) And maybe a fox in the snow, or A bus driver (12) but remembering that little kiddies may buy these I think we can definately rule out the boy with the arab strap. And because we are all so obsessed with the band we would all go out and buy all 12 (well except Fluffy Sarah who would undoubtadly boycott the isobell ones just because she is so jealous) Thus making Jeepster more money. Of course I want a cut of the profits, Or a job at Jeepster as chief of promotions, or just as the lowly tea boy. Jake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Tue Sep 15 10:30:35 1998 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Dr C.B.Stride) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:30:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: UK listees: Dance to B&S and other indiepop/punk tunes on 22/9 Message-ID: <1309AF2F1227@woodhead.shef.ac.uk> ** Firstly, in deference to the orders of the list owner I shall only ** post an advert for Offbeat now and once more before Christmas ** when all the students have returned to the list (is that OK Paul?) Offbeat is back for 5 nights this autumn, and there is a new website with Offbeat and general indiepop info' and articles,(including a review of the Leed's gig very soon I promise!), and links to other cool sites. http://www.shef.ac.uk/~offbeat/ OFFBEAT - a real indiepop night....... with late bar, free lollipops and request sheets Sheffield Uni' SU Raynor Lounge (non-students most welcome) 9pm to 1am, £2.50 on the door... TUESDAY 22nd SEPTEMBER FRIDAY 9th OCTOBER FRIDAY 23rd OCTOBER FRIDAY 20th NOVEMBER SATURDAY 12th DECEMBER Playing......Classic Indie, Punk POP 1977-1997 and C86/C96/new underground of indiepop..... HELEN LOVE-HEAVENLY-BELLE AND SEBASTIAN-DELGADOS DWEEB-CHAMELEONS-PASTELS-R.E.M.-SMITHS-PAVEMENT- FALL- BLUR-JAM-HALF MAN HALF BISCUIT-TALULAH GOSH- HEFNER-YUMMY FUR-VELOCETTE-I LUDICROUS-JUNE BRIDES SUPER FURRY ANIMALS-ELASTICA-CURVE-URUSEI YATSURA- BOGSHED-TIGER-SNUFF-DEAD KENNEDYS-PWEI-CARTER USM- DISCO PISTOL- COMET GAIN -VELODROME 2000-ANORAK GIRL STEREOLAB-CHINA DRUM-SPARKLEHORSE- BUZZCOCKS-BIS- WEDDING PRESENT-ASH-SONIC YOUTH-BODINES-PIXIES-CUD PRIMAL SCREAM (early)-GENE-SHOP ASSISTANTS-FIELD MICE CHILLS-PETER AND THE TEST TUBE BABIES-BLUEBOY-SCARFO. plus many more in the same vein...... for more details/to join the Offbeat mailing list email C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk *** daytime: 0114 2223262 *** *** FAX: 0114 2727206 *** *** evening: 0114 2306539 *** "Watford FC Supporters - South Yorkshire branch" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From uczcvap at xxx.uk Tue Sep 15 13:02:52 1998 From: uczcvap at xxx.uk (Vicky Parkinson) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:02:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Farewell for now, I'm off jetsetting! Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19980915120252.2daf6f9a@pop-server.bcc.ac.uk> I've got five hours twenty minutes to finish my dissertation, print it, proof read it, and bind it, but hey, I want to say bye. Cos as of tonight at 5pm I am no longer a student and soon I am escaping my debts and worries for three weeks, and jetting off for a wedding in Toronto, and I'm going to be jetting down to New York for three nights. What a hard life I lead! I REALLY would like to meet some of you in those two lovely cities, while I have the chance. I can be contacted at jjurinic at idirect.com from the 20th September, and I've been canny and raided the archives for some of your email addresses, so you can't hide ;-) But fear not, I will be back, and probably unemployed, the 2nd week in October, AND I'll have to pay for my Internet access, bummer. Before I go I have to apologise for an act of disgusting behaviour on SAt night. I was in Glasgow for a Hen Night, and after several cocktails in the Copthorne (How horrible is it in there?) and many bottles of wine between us over dinner, three of us kept the party spirit going in Kilkenny's, a dubious 'Irish' pub in the basement of the Italian centre. Anyway, as we staggered up the stairs at closing time, there was a blue poster on the wall with a man with lovely sideburns and a sword in his chest, and without thinking very much I wipped it off the wall, and rolled it up as quickly as possible, as I continued upwards. It was only afterwards, when i woke up the next morning and came downstairs to find the aforesaid poster stuck to the fridge that I realised what I'd done. In my selfish act, I may have denied a Kilkenny-goer the delight that is Belle and Sebastian. Someone else in that pub might have been staggering out, seen that poster, and had a moment of startling conversion, and gone and bought the album the very next day. So even though i am off to foreign climes, I cannot enjoy myself, as I have such a heavy concience. Oh God, 5hrs to go.... Bye! Love Vicky xxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aszolnoki at xxx.com Tue Sep 15 12:16:00 1998 From: aszolnoki at xxx.com (Andras Zalan Szolnoki) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:16:00 PDT Subject: Sinister: No.1!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <19980915111600.28828.qmail@hotmail.com> -*-*-*-Hello Everyone-*-*-*- Up here in freezy (actually not at this moment , but..) Oslo B&S-s new creation ENTERED at numero uno!!!!!!!!!! at at at at In one of the three most popular stores (we don�t have virgin or Hmv or whatever , but we have polarbears!!!!!!!!!!!) and TWATTYBUSSSSSS is still ( or at least it was on sunday) #1!..........but maybe the MSP are new fav?? Who knows + �n Who cares Ciao szola ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Sep 15 12:23:14 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:23:14 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Hey Preston! Message-ID: <01bde09b$3b77c6a0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Yesterday I went to the pictures and it was a film and it was Godzilla but I wasn't frightened. Or anything else for that matter. My advice for listees would be to wait until it comes on the telly, and then watch the other side. Keith suggested Manchester as a sootable meeting place, because it is in the middle. In that case, the Azores would be more appropriate, if a little impracticle. As a compromise solootion, I vote for Preston. We all know that nothing ever happens there, so I think it's up to us to MAKE IT HAPPEN! And why stop at organising a disco? We could have live bands too! The Manics could split up and then reform especially to play it, and there could be lots of Welsh groops too, inclooding The Alarm and the Sooper Fluffy Animals. Don't worry, if you book the bands, they will come. Sarah's grandmother could introdooce the bands and give a quick clip round the ear to anyone whoo's not nice, and the whole thing could be called FLUFFYSTOCK! And Uncle Joe's Mint Balls could keep us all aglow. The postman just brought me Endless Harmony by the Beach Boys. I haven't listened to it yet, but I just know it's fucking great. I finally got round to reading Duke's Cock Fun and UNKLE pieces, and great fun they were too, although I must confess to a preference for Duke in full-on ranting mode, such as his piece about Manda Rin's evil fanzine empire. Unfortunately my internet connection was cut off half way through reading it, so I'l have to go back and find out what happens. In fact, I enjoyed it so much that I think I'll order a copy of Duke's book, "Young and Foolish" for a bit of bedtime reading. I suggest you all do the same. Unless you already have. Speaking of bedtime reading, I've been reading a book by a Cuban fellow called Guillermo Cabrera Infante. It transpires that he's the brains behind all that "soul hero in his soulmobile" and "blue, blue meanies" dialogue that appears on "Kowalski" by Primal Scream. What's more, his Siamese cat (very clever, by the way) was the grandson of George Harrison's Siamese cat. The book is called "O", it's quite nice, you'd like it. I think that's everything. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From m.wimbury at xxx.uk Tue Sep 15 12:31:58 1998 From: m.wimbury at xxx.uk (MATTHEW WIMBURY) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:31:58 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Meeting Up Message-ID: <199809151131.MAA24451@unixa.lancs.ac.uk> I second the Preston idea as regards meeting up. I think it's a pretty cool town really and there's some decent pubs about and there's Tokyo Joes as well which is a cool club, and hey, it's only 20 minutes from where i live, so go to Preston!!!! Matt, who wouldn't mind Manchester either, but would definitely go to Preston! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bluepoets at xxx.com Tue Sep 15 13:00:18 1998 From: Bluepoets at xxx.com (Bluepoets at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:00:18 EDT Subject: Sinister: new, thunderstorms, sleep Message-ID: hey everyone, i am fairly new to this neck of the woods, so i thought id introduce myself in the wakening of a sleepless night waiting for my sweetness to come home. we both like b&s, myself almost a year now. and we are patiently awaiting for thursday for the tickets in toronto, we are from rochester, ny. anyways, it is about to thunderstorm here and as i await her return i look through all my mix tapes and couldnt find a one to satisfy me, so i was wondering if someone would like to trade some mix tapes with me, with some sweet tunes, write to me, j, privately. well, back to the lurking, i might speak up once in a while, otherwise i am too shy thanks for reading j +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Calumn.Shearer at xxx.uk Tue Sep 15 13:12:17 1998 From: Calumn.Shearer at xxx.uk (Shearer, Calumn) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:12:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: FW: Critics' Choice (review) Message-ID: Well, if anyone's really interested..... more for the archives methinks > > >Belle & Sebastian - The Boy With The Arab Strap(Jeepster) > >If you haven't got a Bell & Sebastian album nestling in your CD collection >yet, it probably means you're not very cool. Their name alone - it comes from >that black -and-white children's TV series about a boy and his St. Bernard >which we all watched in the Seventies - makes them worth buying. and their >mellow, softly-sung, melodic acoustic folk-pop, blessed with clever, wistful >lyrics, is just the thing with which to soothe your friends at louche urban >dinner parties. But to be frank, I can't hear much difference between this >and their two earlier albums. > >Review by James Delingpole - The Sunday Telegraph Sept. 13th 1998. >"Critics Choice" > > >I actually got sent this by one of my cow-orkers, just goes to show... If you >like Belle and Sebastian, you're marked for life. > I'm off to buy another cardie - a nice one in beige and red, I think. > cal +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk Tue Sep 15 13:11:13 1998 From: Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk (Sarah Wheeler) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:11:13 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Tut, test card music indeed! Message-ID: <199809151211.NAA08286@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk> Aaaaaargh......why do I let myself get so wound up???? I eventually persuaded my friend to play TWATTYBUS in the car whilst driving through to my parents, and by the time Dirty Dream #2 came on he told me to turn it off, it was like listening to the test card music!!!!!!!! This, coming from a boy who sings the praises of piddly widdly shit like Yngwie 'I am a viking' Malmsteen, Steve Vai and Mr Big!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Needless to say, I made my point about his taste being in his arse, and didn't speak for the rest of the journey. It made for a quite pleasant atmosphere. He did mention something about the Kingfishers, though. Can anyone tell me anything about them - type of music etc??? Bye bye Sarah x ======================= Sarah Wheeler Room 106 West Medical Building University of Glasgow GLASGOW G12 8QQ 0141-339 8855 ext.2860 ======================= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From d.barker at xxx.uk Tue Sep 15 13:14:19 1998 From: d.barker at xxx.uk (Cassell Professional Publishing) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1998 13:14:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Genius journalist Message-ID: <0003022dfe1a$c202bec0$7b65e4d4@server> Afternoon all. I don't think anyone's posted this review of the London show yet. It is the most deliriously dreadful piece of journalism I have ever read, and I love it to bits. It appeared in the London Evening Standard, and is written by the appropriately named Max Bell. THE MAJESTY IN MURDOCH MOB'S MAGIC MIX The Scottish band Belle and Sebastian borrow their name from Cecile Aubry's tale of a boy and his Pyrenean mountain dog. The book was a cult TV item in the seventies, rather as Stuart Murdoch's deliciously off-beat group are now, although there were far more than one garcon and his chien at the Empire last night as B and S celebrated their third album, The Boy with the Arab Strap, in front of a packed house who cheered their heroes to the rafters. Renowned for a shambolic approach to live performances, the Strap got their act together here, thanks to crowd pleasers from If You're Feeling Sinister and Tiger Milk. Once ensconced, Murdoch's mob turned Stars of Track and Field into a world-beating exercise in melodic, million-dollar pop that Marion Jones would have appreciated. Basking in musical territory reminiscent of US West Coast legends like Love and the Byrds, while always keeping one foot on the rhythmic panache of the Velvet Underground, this most esoteric yet accessible of bands ensured that Is It Wicked not to Care and Spaceboy Dream left their fanatical following limp with delight. Well, there you have it. I defy anyone to ever come up with more cliches, mixed metaphors, errors, etc in the space of a 300 word review. Absolute genius. Oh, and I nominate Joss in Dublin to come up with next Monday's poem. Looking forward to the video on MTV tonight, DAVID +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Tue Sep 15 13:24:15 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:24:15 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <01BDE0AC.22FC9FE0@keith@qss.co.uk> >I second the Preston idea as regards meeting up. I think it's a pretty >cool town really and there's some decent pubs about and there's Tokyo >Joes as well which is a cool club, and hey, it's only 20 minutes from >where i live, so go to Preston!!!! Preston is fine, but obviously we'll need someone to set it up there - do we have any volunteers, as I say, I'm happy to sort it in Edinburgh and I believe Tag is happy to sort it in Manchester if it turns out there but we don't yet have a volunteer for Preston. Please mail me if you want to hire a place and organise all the rest of the stuff too. However, any place with a club named after a Bryan Ferry song is the business for me. Just out of interest though, if we were to set it up in Glasgow, would more people be likely to come? What do people think? Peter, you're welcome to set up one in the Azores, but as we're a truly multinational list, with people from all over the Globe, I've ascertained that the only fair place to have the party is in the Earth's core - right in the middle, where large weirdo Dinosaurs, like the ones in Jurassic Godzilla except with light bulbs for eyes, roam the land. I've already arranged a Mole Machine to carry us down there, but it only takes 12 people at a time, so it'll take a bit of time to ferry us all down there. Plus it only leaves from Edinburgh, so you'll all have to travel there first. Godzilla does look like complete shit and as usual I'm not gonna go and see it. Does it have Godzooky or whatever it's called in it? Peter (again) I can agree with you that the Duke in full ranting mode is much more entertaining than the usual fare, Manda Rin really is taking the "kids" for a ride... what a bitch! That's just the beginning as Bis are currently attempting, with the profits from their fanzine empire, to buy all of Glasgow. Rumour has it the next target is that daft Armadillo thing that's just been built - it's going to be a concert venue for only tiny "credible" indie bands so's they can play to much larger audiences inside a giant mammal! (naturally at a cost). And indeed I'm gonna get myself a copy of the Duke's "Young and Foolish" too. And if you haven't received an order form for the Duke's book yet (usually on the other side of the scrap of paper he writes notes on) mail him and I'm sure he'll send you one. I'm well looking forward to it... When does it actually come out Duke? Going back to the meet up situation, we did actually think that perhaps an entire weekend's holiday or something would be a good idea - but that was vetoed on the grounds that the chances of more than about three people turning up were slim. If anyone thinks otherwise please mail your plan to the list and we can all see what people think. I've had quite a large number of positive responses for the meet up, so it's looking good at the moment. Cheers, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Tue Sep 15 14:39:01 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:39:01 Subject: Sinister: Radio Session in France Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19980915143901.38574726@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> I just repeat with more details : Belle & Sebastian will do a radio session in the Bernard Lenoir's Show on the french radio called France Inter on october 5th, the day before the Paris gig. Do you know Paris ? It's a lovely little city in France. Do you know France ? It's a lovely lit... well okay. Belle & Sebastian will just play. No interview, just music during 50 minutes. The show is broadcasted live on AM band (162 kHz), so you can listen to it in most countries in Europe (especially in Britain, and for sure in London). Bernard Lenoir will not kill me if I compare his show to the famous John Peel's radio show on BBC One. Yesterday PJ Harvey did one of these famous "black sessions" (black, because "Lenoir" means black in french). For you to know, the next black sessions will be : 24.sep.98 Hefner 05.oct.98 Belle And Sebastian 06.oct.98 Baby Bird 27.oct.98 Placebo 17.nov.98 Boo Radleys But you will also be able to listen to this session on the web : http://www.eutelsat.org/radio/1012.html The radio session will start at 9.30 Paris time (8.30 in UK). If you want to get informations about the Bernard Lenoir's Show, just have a look : http://www.radio-france.fr/inter/lenoir/summary.html Many listees asked me to tape this session and to send somes copies. I will OF COURSE tape it, but it will be difficult for me to send many copies... Please dont propose to pay for the tapes, I dont want any money and I dont want to hear about money when Belle & Sebastian is concerned ! I dont sell anything, I just give, but I cant give to everyone. I hope you can understand this. But I can at least send a copy to someone in UK and another one in the US and then you do what you want. Philippe, on air +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From arab_strap at xxx.com Tue Sep 15 13:51:45 1998 From: arab_strap at xxx.com (Greg Pallis) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 05:51:45 PDT Subject: Sinister: Stolen bike episode Message-ID: <19980915125145.24003.qmail@hotmail.com> Riding a bike? Were you wearing PEDAL PUSHERS? Good sentiments about the gig, I agree, but I was forced to miss the london gig thru parent power, so consider yourself lucky. Of course, if the band read the list, they'll ALL turn up in pedal pushers! Why would a woodchuck chuck wood? Greg >>Today I rode my bike to get tickets to the Nov 2 show in NYC. Tickets I now have, but my bike I do not. In the less than five minutes spent picking up the tickets, someone took bolt cutters to my lock and made off with my bicycle. [Insert many expletives here.] ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Calumn.Shearer at xxx.uk Tue Sep 15 13:59:24 1998 From: Calumn.Shearer at xxx.uk (Shearer, Calumn) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:59:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Hey Kids, Let's put on a show!! Message-ID: Just for the record, as it were, and not withstanding all the other babble.... I'm well up for this whole meet-up-and-boogie-till-we-puke idea, be it in Preston, Manchester, Edinburgh or, indeed Glasgow (I herby volunteer to "sort it out" if it's in Glasgow) On a similar vein, my first choice (personally) would be Edinburgh, (NOT Glasgow! - Too much chance of B&S trying to gatecrash) Or Manchester, 'cos everyone knows how to get to (or is it away from?) Manchester. OR indeed Preston, except I don't know where that is (My Geography's pretty crap) Or London (I _know_ where that is.... I just don't know how I'd get there!) Or Anywhere. All I need's a bar, some music and a corner to curl up in. Oh, and sparkling company and conversation would be nice too! Well, it's in your hands, Keithy babes. just mind and tell everyone when you decide, or it'll be a _Very Quiet Night_ later, dudes and dudettes cal +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From belleandsebastian at xxx.com Tue Sep 15 13:09:33 1998 From: belleandsebastian at xxx.com (Karen David) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 98 12:09:33 UT Subject: Sinister: Shepherd's Bush - The band speaks Message-ID: Dear All at the mailing list Aah, I just wanted to say that I'm really sorry if you were at Shepherd's Bush bush bush bush bush bush bush the other night and had to leave for the tube, or if you got fed up hanging around. We were dying to go on! Honestly, Isobel had just taken her 43rd piss of the night and saying that if we didn't go on in a minute she was going to go home! There was a horibble cycle of everyone going to the bog, and all because the drums needed tuning or something. De Mouche, the drummer of National Park hits the skins a hell of a lot harder than Richard so everything was a wee bit to buggery when we were supposed to go on. I think that's the reason. But honestly, we would never do anything to piss you off on purpose. But you know that anyway. We got a bit of flack afterwards. Some fucking knob from a broadsheet who presumes he can speak for you in saying that we walk a fine line with you. What the fuck has he got to do with it! Anyway, I'd like to recount the best bits of the week like Tag did, especially for P. Millardo who wasn't about, but I don't know how far I'll get because the place where this computer is shuts in a wee minute. I'll tell you now though that "Johnny" in Seymour Stein is Johnny Marr. Seymour told Chris that he reminded him of The Smith in the ridiculously out of season full length fake fur coat that Chris had on at the time. I think someone was asking but I didn't read down to see if Kitchen or House had enlightened whoever it was in the way they so helpfully do. Katrina is so notoriously efficient and helpful that she was standing with Andy Symington after the Nottingham show while Andy was djiing and Andy mentioned that there was a lot of rubbish around left from the gig, not meaning anything by it or anything, just making conversation. Katrina fetched a brush immediately and started sweeping up around the numerous people dancing and amid the general havoc of roadies, dancers and noise. With her perfectly knotted hankerchief round her neck she was the most perfect 50's svelte and flustered sweeper upper ever. I've got to say hello to the fellow who was booing loudly in Tag's ear at Shepherd's Bush, before we went on. You get some morons! But at least we get a laugh. Andy told me he was feeling some wrath while we were late going on. It's a shame, he didn't ask for it. Well this guy in the audience was booing away, and Andy said that Tag asged him what he thought he was doing and the fellow said "That dj's a wanker" and I think Tag said "Well he happens to be a friend of mine" and booer said "Well I was only joking" and Tag said "Well I don't think you are very funny" and I like to imagine he said it in a very dry Noel Coward sort of way that caused the bully to think again and perhaps go away and buy a few raffle tickets for a good cause....(Yes Misster broadsheet, open yoour ears. as if we'd have a raffle for one of our records and then keep the money. It was my mate Ciara's copy and she was giving the dough to various ME charities) I'd like to think also that during the course of the concert Mr Jeepster Mark Jones turned habitually to Gerard our sound man and said. "Listen, Gerard maaan. Stevie's mike's really loud. Why don't you change them round? Get Stuart to sing into Stevie's mike?" "But Mark, zees will not make any deefference. Stevie's voice is louder, you know." "Yeah but, why don't you just try it maan. Change the mikes maan. Maybe it will sound louder. I mean, Stevie's voice is really clear" "But Mark", then in French "...but what is the bloody point?" Anyway, as usual I only get to hear the stories afterwards and nothing happened to me apart from shifting speakers, gory soundchecks, and doing setlists.But we recorded a song when we got back called Paper Boat that Stuart wrote and sang! I'm not cursing it by telling you because it's finished, and we all enjoyed it for once. Love Stuart Murdoch +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From euan.leitch at xxx.net Tue Sep 15 15:12:02 1998 From: euan.leitch at xxx.net (Euan Leitch) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 15:12:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Supper Club Message-ID: <35FE75B2.4B92@virgin.net> Hello boys and girls A wee quote from today's Times about Bill's social life: "Later the Clintons and Gores were set to attend a $10,000-a-plate dinner at The Supper Club, a regular venue for cabaret shows, and patronised for its air of old fashioned indulgence." I wonder if he wore an Arab Strap for Monica? Better keep your clothes from the NY show safe, who knows how valuable those stains may become! Keeping it up, Euan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 9503208p at xxx.uk Tue Sep 15 17:07:32 1998 From: 9503208p at xxx.uk (Sarah Jane Philp) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:07:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: reply:the bush, band speaks Message-ID: <6F1318E0198@student.gla.ac.uk> hello i,ve been away actually seeing if the roxy music list knew anything about antony price but no so i come back just in time to get stuarts lovely note about the empire. that was nice i figured the story would go something like that and wasnt mindful of the band being late on but only bewildered by the booing of the dj and in fear for those fainting whited out people that i spied from the second balcony - all tipexed out they were. i ended up being real angry at london and wishing to back at those blissful maryhill things. Leaving early to get the last tube i had big row with my sister because she was walking all fast and anxious and i thought she,d been got by the london disease in a rush all the bloody time. and then we neither of us slept, dreaming of losing people, separation and stuff. we made up again but only when back in birmingham. strange that, what the capital does to you. Stay there too long and you develop a tendency to boo at djs. bye;sarah +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Tue Sep 15 16:24:23 1998 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:24:23 PDT Subject: Sinister: intercontinental drift Message-ID: <19980915152423.19091.qmail@hotmail.com> I bought the new album yesterday and the old edition of the "Rolling Stone Album Guide", circa 1981. The first entry I open to is the Slits, a one-star review punctuated at the end with: "For Anglophilic ass-kissers only." Hmmmph. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From arossigneux at xxx.com Tue Sep 15 16:59:00 1998 From: arossigneux at xxx.com (Aude Horeau-Rossigneux) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:59:00 PDT Subject: Sinister: Hi everyone! Message-ID: <19980915155900.22760.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello everyone I just subscribed the sinister mailing list. I'm a french 23 years old girl from Paris. I'm a journalist. I don't have enough time to write a long message, but I hope you'll answer me. Bye, kisses (You can also write in italian or in german, if you want) Aude PS: Mon cher Julien, comme tu peux le remarquer, me voici inscrite sur cette mailing list dont tu me parles � longueur de temps. J'esp�re recevoir autant de message que toi . Je t'embrasse ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tridophelom at xxx.com Tue Sep 15 17:07:06 1998 From: tridophelom at xxx.com (will grey) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:07:06 PDT Subject: Sinister: intercontinental drift Message-ID: <19980915160706.8120.qmail@hotmail.com> >I bought the new album yesterday and the old edition of the "Rolling >Stone Album Guide", circa 1981. The first entry I open to is the Slits, >a one-star review punctuated at the end with: "For Anglophilic >ass-kissers only." Hmmmph. a hideously snotty publication... dave marsh is a big jerk, i think... i recall him being particularly hateful in his reviews of x's albums as well... towards fan, no less... strange. wonder what he thinks of b&s? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Tue Sep 15 17:05:33 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:05:33 -0400 Subject: Sinister: boston show Message-ID: hullo all. i've been unsubbed for a couple weeks now, but i'm back. anyhoo, i may have an extra ticket for the boston show on october 21st, assuming that i can't find anyone here at camp hamp who wants to go with me. sooo, if you're in need of a ticket to the show please email me privately. -kerry "your fantasies are unlikely. but beautiful." -stanley donwood +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Tue Sep 15 17:19:02 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:19:02 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: twattybus? In-Reply-To: <01bde061$e40c41e0$50d2b4cf@station2> Message-ID: On Tue, 15 Sep 1998, Steven wrote: > OK, I'm new to this list, so forgive me if this has been brought up > before. I've searched the archives, and I still can't figure out what > TWATTYBUS means! I'm probably just being really blind, but I can't be > the only one. Steven - yes, sorry if sometimes this list is a little - hmm cryptic, but it's the flipside of being part of such a fabulous community. But try finding a decent acronym for "The Boy With The Arab Strap". A good few people tried, and of course it was Peter Miller who came up with the one that seems to be the current Darwinian survivor. There was one a bit like TOASTEDTEACAKES I quite liked too but I can't remember it. But then Peter is the Boy with the English Cock Cage. Quiz: who did the Sarah speaky bit in Dirty Dream #2 in London (clue: it wasn't Sarah)? There's a clue in Stuart's email. Whoever gets the answer right first gets to post something saucy and irrelevant without me grumbling. I'm off to buy some pedal-pushers, you rude lot. honeypaul x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Tue Sep 15 17:41:38 1998 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:41:38 PDT Subject: Sinister: intercontinental drift Message-ID: <19980915164138.18547.qmail@hotmail.com> Oh yes, and about X-Ray Spex: "No one listens to this stuff for enjoyment." Best of all, though, is that he caught on to the first Replacements album; gave it three stars, and praised them for being fun-loving and not taking themselves too seriously, then sealing his epitaph in unfadeable print: "Who knows if we'll ever hear from them again? Who really cares?" Yet he had the patience to write what seemed to be about 8,000 pages about Bruce Springsteen. Double-hmmph. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MctaggartR at xxx.com Tue Sep 15 17:35:12 1998 From: MctaggartR at xxx.com (Mctaggart, Robert) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:35:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: hi-de-hi Message-ID: Hello, Pierre von Miller hath wroted: >Uncle Joe's Mint Balls could keep us all aglow. Indeed they could, Peter. Do you know that was the drug of choice at Wigan Casino? Keef wrote: >Preston is fine, but obviously we'll need someone to set it up >there - do we have any volunteers, as I say, I'm happy to sort it in >Edinburgh and I believe Tag is happy to sort it in Manchester if it turns out there but we don't yet have a volunteer for Preston. Please >mail me if you want to hire a place and organise all the rest of the >stuff too. However, any place with a club named after a Bryan Ferry >song is the business for me. In that case, can I recommend "Jealous Guy", Scropton's finest niterie where DJ Darren plays the finest in chart smashes from 1992. Scropton is conveniently located, a matter of minutes from East Midlands International Airport. Our very own Little Peter Miller, himself a native of the area, surely spent many happy days there as a youth, playing snakes and ladders, headers and volleys, doctors and nurses and other carefree childhood pursuits. And our embracing of their sleepy little town can only help the local council in their forthcoming Olympic bid. Yes, I am happy to organise Manchester goings-on. I think it could be super jolly fun for all. It would kind of nice to have it during Christmas time, although I know at least two people are going 'down-under' around then. It would help though if you could express an interest or preference, then we know how many people, where, when etc, etc. Keith and I are more than happy to act as the Devil's Jugglers, me resplendent in my soul shirt, while Keith will be sure to wear some flowers in his hair. I like the idea of a Sinister summer holiday. We could go to Blackpool, it's famous for fresh and air and fun. Or take over Butlin's and have a knobbly knees competition (Trousers must be a hot favourite), a Glamourous Grandmother competition (Honey should walk that one) and other high jinx. That'll be it then. Ravishingly yours, Robert McTaggart +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jeni_Morton at xxx.com Tue Sep 15 17:40:02 1998 From: Jeni_Morton at xxx.com (Jeni Morton) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:40:02 -0700 Subject: Sinister: B&S PEZ MACHINES Message-ID: <000556A6.4155@rhinorecords.com> Ummmm, hi I'm new, so please be gentle with me if I do this wrong..... Anyway, I think B&S Pez dispensers would be BRILLIANT! I collect those silly little plastic things anyway, but I am running out of ones to search for........*swoon*.....how very exciting this would be........ummmm, ok well I'm off now..... Cheers- Jeni xoxo _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: Sinister: B&S PEZ MACHINES From: "kenny" at Internet Date: 09/16/98 10:01 AM In an email to the list Sarah (or Jubilee?) wrote "Right now i'm in a state of denial, which will turn into panic, then if i can't find a way to get in anyway, it will turn to anger and chronic consumtion of PEZ candies" Which gave me an idea............. Knowing that the jeepster merchandising department are always wanting new ideas I thought that you could have a complete series of B&S pez dispensers ( you know, the ones where you tip the head back and it gives you a little sweet. Of course you would have one of each member of the band (thats 8 already) Oh and another2 of Isobel for being so stunning (that makes 10) And maybe a fox in the snow, or A bus driver (12) but remembering that little kiddies may buy these I think we can definately rule out the boy with the arab strap. And because we are all so obsessed with the band we would all go out and buy all 12 (well except Fluffy Sarah who would undoubtadly boycott the isobell ones just because she is so jealous) Thus making Jeepster more money. Of course I want a cut of the profits, Or a job at Jeepster as chief of promotions, or just as the lowly tea boy. Jake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nickdastoor at xxx.com Tue Sep 15 18:00:08 1998 From: nickdastoor at xxx.com (Nick Dastoor) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Reinventing apostrophes Message-ID: <19980915170008.20729.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> Brier Rabbit wrote: > 2. It's amazing, the lack of comparisons to The Smiths. Maybe I'm late > and we've been through all this before. Shit, I'd better check the > archives. Ssssh, everyone on the list used to be obsessed by The Smiths (except FluffySarah who preferred Mr Bean). Everyone is also smitten by Isobel Campbell (except Peter Miller, who prefers Harriet Harman). However, it isn't the done thing to mention these things for fear of appearing a stereotypical bed-wetter. On that note, how about at the next concert, putting Stuart's poser to the test. If we were to remove our clothes, *do* you think the singer would notice? When I give the sign, you are all to whip off our anoraks and run around waving your bits and pieces. It will create a media sensation and the press will have to revise their stock stereotype from 'bed-wetting anorak vegetarians' to 'bed-wetting anorak veggies WITH MENTAL DISORDERS'. How great would that be? Reasons TWATTYBUS is good but it's not quite right, Part 22:- There are a number of ERRORS INVOLVING APOSTROPHES in the lyric sheet. Consider: "Ease you're feet into the sea" (Gasp!) "Scouring everybodies face for some small flicker of the truth" (Ugh!) "Could you put a name to someone elses sigh?" (D'oh!) Who is responsible, D&K? Nick xxx _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jeni_Morton at xxx.com Tue Sep 15 17:56:25 1998 From: Jeni_Morton at xxx.com (Jeni Morton) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:56:25 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Hello.... Message-ID: <000556D5.4155@rhinorecords.com> Ummm, hi....I'm new and was not quite sure if my reply about how cool I think the "B&S Pez Dispenser" idea was, got through. So here I sit in my office dropping everyone a wee line to say Hello....... Not much to know about me then, I'm 27, adore B&S, (thanks to Miss. Arzy) and loathe traffic.... Write to me if you like, I'll be here reading! Cheers- Jeni xoxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gibbm at xxx.uk Tue Sep 15 18:33:30 1998 From: gibbm at xxx.uk (Mike Gibb) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 18:33:30 +0100 Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK Message-ID: I have a copy of Belle and Sebastian's Tigermilk album in excellent condition for sale. If you are interested contact me with your- offer. Derek Gibb. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Tue Sep 15 18:37:33 1998 From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 18:37:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Warning: List Abuse Ahead Message-ID: <001201bde0cf$8594de60$4429c22b@bond.broadcast> I almost feel guilty writing this, which is an indicator of the effect Belle & Sebastian has had on me (<--genuine B&S content), but does anybody want to buy a 24 year old MGB GT? Or a car CD player? Or both? Let me know. Sorry, Michael +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Tue Sep 15 19:08:42 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 18:08:42 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: making money In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sorry folks, this list isn't about making money and never will be. Please desist from selling things, or you're putting its future in jeopardy. If anyone makes any offers for Tigermilk - it's your choice, of course - don't dream of making them on the list (Mr Gibb isn't even on it as far as I can see). Personally I'd save up for a Princess Barbie In Space set instead. Oh and our pyjama'd listee Oon has a message to all, that her dad's fiddling with her computer and she's sorry if she hasn't replied to people's emails! Gosh, I'm all paranoid about the apostrophes in this's's letter, Nick can you send me on a course? honey +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Tue Sep 15 18:43:56 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Fluffy Sarah) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 18:43:56 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Meet-ups! Message-ID: Yoou funny people! Wanting a list meet-up in PRESTON!!! hahahahah! Even though that's the nearest town to me, and if everyone wants to go there I am sure I could organise something - Manchester I think is a much better bet!! AND NOT IN GLASGOW!! 'Cos then I cannot come grr godammit...hang on though... my parents are going away for New Years....would they KNOW if I went up to Glasgow....hmm.....but hey I like Manchester and nothing ever happens in the north so LET SOMETING HAPPEN! Manchester is great! Then again, when all you have is Preston.... I'm all for the meet-up's by the way - I have met a fair few people on the list and I am all for more of that....you all seem nice...ish... well, not THAT psychopathic.... I think it would be great, find a place wi' good bouze, good tunes, and Keiths good dancing, and there you go!! I mean my dancing is just the best in the world anyway (if you just don't look at me) so I don't count.... There are a few nice pubs in Preston though - I do NOT recommend the new look Adelphi (BRIGHT YELLOW!!!), so the best one after that is The Fighting Cock in my opinion, but tis small BUT! They have BALL BALL BALL, FOOOTY FOOTY FOOTY, BALL BALL BALL, FOOTBAL!! from the adam and joe show on the dookbox, so that is just amazing...and a pint of Caffreys is 1.95. But you do get the freaky crowd in. Micheal - Tokyo Joes? A GOOD CLUB!!! I'm sorry, are you TWELVE? That's the worst fucking club in the north west!! It's renowned for rapists and perverts and TRENDY DUDE HEAVEN!!! The club that we'd have to go to (if in Preston *splutter*) would be The Warehouse - which is a freaky rock club whose sole calim to fame is....er.... Joy Divison played there.....just a few years ago now... when I wans't born.... and you might get beaten up if you're wearing DM's, 'cos trendy dudes'll think you're moshers. Mmm, nice. Surely we can do a wee bit better in Manchester? Preston would be nice for a picnic! 'Cos we could have it in Winkley Square, and then go ON to Manchester later - Tim you like Winkley square, but Gary is scared of it, I don't know why 'cos its ace and cool... and yes you can have Uncle Joes Mintballs if you want - but I personally recommend again the strawberry sweets you buy from John Menzies.....they are amazing,.... I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Candarel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From yazansam at xxx.uk Tue Sep 15 19:22:23 1998 From: yazansam at xxx.uk (Yaz) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 19:22:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Unreleased Songs Message-ID: <199809151820.TAA14315@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> > Howdy, > > Can some kind human please help me out. Id like a list of all the unreleased Belle and Sebastian songs. These are the ones I can > think of - are there any others? > > 1. London Has Let Me Down Again. > 2. Hurleys Having Dreams. > 3. Pocket-Book Angel. > 4. The Loneliness Of A Middle Distance Runner. > 5. Tigermilk (instrumental). > 6. Modern Rock Song. > 7. Slow Graffiti. > 8. Rhoda. > 9. Wrong Love. > 10. I Know Where The Summer Goes. howdydoodee. i too will give a mars bar to any kind soul who does this for me. yaz ********************************* patch up the stars/scars with some cardboard karma -the Longpigs ********************************* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From garlansw at xxx.uk Tue Sep 15 19:40:47 1998 From: garlansw at xxx.uk (Stephen Garland) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 19:40:47 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Woolies' chart position Message-ID: Hello there, I needed some little plastic things that only Woolies sells, so I popped over there this lunchtime. (For non-UK people, and at the risk of patronising you, Woolworths is a bright plastic shop found on every town's high street, and is known affectionately as Woolies). The one I went to is in the Elephant and Castle shopping centre in South London, which is about as un-B&S as you can get. So it was a great surprise for me when I went over to the record section - oh, hang on, they don't sell records there any more - I mean the 'music' section, to look at the Woolworth's Top 75 to find TW*TTYBUS at number...ermmm...it wasn't there at all! All the usual favourites - Manics, Dolly Parton, Hootie - were there, but no B&S. Perhaps the album's title is a little too rude for the people who go to Woolies. Ah, well. Talking of Chickfactor, which I was with a mate the other day, I know nothing of the magazine, but I know of it as a 'lad' phrase. It is best explained by example. The aforementioned (male) mate lives with 4 girls, so the 'chickfactor' of his house is 4. I live in a house of 2 boys and 2 girls, giving a chickfactor of 1. Maybe it should be called a ratio or coefficient or something (I was never any good at maths, that's why I'm an engineer), but that's how it works. Easy, eh? Now you can all go away and work out the chickfactor of B&S. I would, but don't know who's in the band, and can't be bothered trying to find out. Sorry guys (and girls, however many of you there might be). Toodle-pip, Stevie G. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From calnd at xxx.uk Tue Sep 15 20:03:55 1998 From: calnd at xxx.uk (Chris Leonard) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:03:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: We have A Winner! Message-ID: I'm terrifically delighted to announce Mr. Steve Genge the winner of the competition!!!!! He guessed Neil the manager has 31456 hairs in his sideburns, which is uncannily only 2 HAIRS OUT! Are you gay lovers, or what? TA TA TA TAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Couldn't have happened to a nicer fellow. Get me your address and the fabulous prize of a picture of elvis dancing in a big woolly jumper and steven pastels fay handwriting will be winging there way down to you down there. Peter L, hard lines - send me your address anyway and you'll get something nice.....and maybe sticky. That's that then. Stuart Murdoch wrote: >Some fucking knob from a broadsheet who presumes he can speak for >you in saying that we walk a fine line with you. What the fuck has he got to >do with it! Hey Stuart, I know your new to the list an all, but do you think all this swearing is really necessary? This used to be such a nice place. I bet you don't speak like that in the church hall. Hah, only kidding of course it's lovely that mr murdoch made the effort to write. Makes me feel a little more worthwhile. And makes me happier to know that I can swear freely and still love and be loved by God. i'm off to look at that live cam thing again. c +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rnorth at xxx.uk Tue Sep 15 21:30:55 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Sweet & Tender Hooligan) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:30:55 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Kiss Chase Message-ID: <199809151911.UAA19311@cadmus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk> well i think I want to add my two cents about the album now the best trax are, in my humble opinion of course, IIWNTC and TBWTAS all of the rest are brilliant except for (IMHO again) the rather dissapointing Rollercoaster Ride. And the drumming in Dirty Dream #2 gets really, really annoying after a while But a strong 9/10 and their best album yet for sure.... and why does every Belle and Sebastian album start so quiet! Every time I listen to Tigermilk, Sinister or TBWTAS I have to turn the volume way up almost immediately! But a small price..... were they serious about rereleasing Tigermilk btw? Or was that just to quell the hecklers at the Bush. Which was good wasn't it? Wow. So close to the front!. I was one away from the barrier almost directly in front of Stuart. Next to my friend that decided to crouch down during the inexorable wait. I also got the first bottle of water from the funny lookin' guy (no offence man) in the red shirt. Thanx for that. oh I was wearing all blue - with a turquoise t-shirt. Didn't the DJ look like Fatboy Slim? oh and if anyone wants to reply to this message and wants me to read it, then don't put it on the list. I have to trawl through the archives because of my damned email address. It'll accept normal mails but not list mails for some reason - so I was ejected. I just have to select the juicy bits of news by clicking on anything by David or Katrina. anyways gotta go Northy ______________________________________________________ "If home life wasn't unsatisfactory, we'd never leave" the Breakfast Club - 1984 ________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blink at xxx.net Tue Sep 15 22:09:37 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:09:37 -0400 Subject: Sinister: take a deep breath....ahh chill baby chill References: <199809151252.NAA17161@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <35FED791.7FE6@inexpress.net> > hello- > > i'm sorry but i must moan about this. My stomach turned when i saw that > the show is 19+. I mean i think this made me physically sick. When > you've been looking forward to something for months only to get crushed > by 3 little characters which in this case happen to be 19+ it's not a > nice feeling at all. Right now i'm in a state of denial, which will > turn into panic, then if i can't find a way to get in anyway, it will > turn to anger and chronic consumtion of PEZ candies. oh let's not lose hope here!! We're gonna make it after all... There is always a WAY! Don't let some stupid little RULE get in your way! (i'm not letting it) don't panic yet...get there early,bring presents for Belle and Sebastian...hide in the bathroom! unless you actually look older,i wouldn't try the 'oh yeah i'm 19' i tried that,and ummm as i look about 12 they chucked me out,chucked me away and then i cried all over the bus...so next time kick the bouncers in the nads and RUN....or bring a fake id from another province so if they say it looks strange,go 'umm de age is dere! what you say?' if i get there early,it'll work right? I'll be there guitar tech! Coffee-person? Make-up Assistant? oh there must be help for us small ones kiss kiss, Pookie p.s. ok...Sarah..you hate ALL pedal-pushers? but what about those audrey hepburn black satin ones? With the big black sunglasses,the little black turtleneck and scarve? sucha 'ooh,aren't i polished yet windblown at the same time?' look +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Tue Sep 15 22:33:13 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:33:13 EDT Subject: Sinister: Fairly good review of london gig in NME, but this isn't about that at all Message-ID: Phillippe wrote: <> Oh wow! this'll be great, picking up beautiful music late at night from over the seas, not knowing what it's called or even what station you're listening to. Only this time we will, of course. It's like that track on Domestiques which starts with some french dj talking, all in french obviously. I'll try to tape it, and send it to interested people, if I can pick up the signal clearly enough. What a shite day I've had, (my first and last day of non artistic employment), in a theatre box office, enlivened only by the thrill of not knowing how anything worked at all, or indeed, what I was meant to be doing. The undoubted highlight was unwittingly sending a scrum of teenage boys to see Danny La Rue, instead of Dannii Minogue, through a typing error. I like to think that having paid, they'll decide to get their money's worth anyway,in the back of the stalls, and that I've opened their eyes to a whole new sexual experience... anyway pop tarts, Milesfromthislife is being eaten by vampires on Channel 4, and I must go and watch. I've waited a long time to see that f*cker scream in agony. byebye seb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From debbie.spiers at xxx.ca Tue Sep 15 19:48:35 1998 From: debbie.spiers at xxx.ca (debbie.spiers at xxx.ca) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:48:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: thanx Message-ID: i'd like to send a huge thanx to the people who wrote me from toronto. JESSICA, ELISABETH and SARAH, or PETULA. i had No idea that belle and sebastian were coming anywhere near toronto. i feel lost on the internet, yesterday was my first time emailing, and it was great to log on today to 50 messages (not like they were for me, but that is aside the point) sorry to waste anybody elses time with this, but i didn't know what else to do. i'm counting down the days till the show in october!! and to sarah, i know how you feel, well i did, and i'm sorry, i'll sneak you in under a parka. cheers see in october debbie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From barzy at xxx.com Tue Sep 15 23:50:42 1998 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:50:42 -0800 Subject: Sinister: responce to all the moaners Message-ID: Key word being PONCE...I mean really...is all this moaning about the new LP necessary? "Wah wah wah..Isobelle's S sound annoy me" "wah wah wah...Stuart sings to quiet and i've got to turn up my radio"..."They sound like this band...they sound like that dead guy." Either people are WAY to anal 'round here or they've nothing better to do and miss disecting things in biology. SO what am *I* doing? Moaning about the moaners is all... My pal Ben said it best in the car the other today while listening to TWATTYBUS.... "Wow..this LP is really lovely...this band sounds like no other band i've ever heard" And no..he's not some musical idiot...he's worked at a music magazine for 8 years...it's just that...if you don't look so hard for faults, you'll find less...or something. beth who might just be in a really bad mood after seeing Jim Reid try to kill William on stage in LA, after a 10 minute set. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From krissy9 at xxx.us Tue Sep 15 23:03:45 1998 From: krissy9 at xxx.us (Krissy) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:03:45 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V2 #341 In-Reply-To: <199809111136.MAA29598@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: I met Morrissey! I met him! I'm just so excited, I have to tell everyone. Just roll your eyes at me and delete away. And have fun, everyone lucky enough to live in a B&S approved city, and will see them. (sigh... jealousy.) Krissy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From heinitz at xxx.net Tue Sep 15 19:52:49 1998 From: heinitz at xxx.net (Heinitz) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 98 18:52:49 GMT Subject: Sinister: pedal pushers Message-ID: <980915185249.n0001365.heinitz@mail.clara.net> pedal pushers are indeed the worst item of clothing ever, they look SO bad. whoever it was suggested isobel was wearing them to fit in with the natives, GRRRRRR. though not exactly an inhabitant of leeds, i'm not far away so i have to feel slighted by that remark. about the Event, i am interested in such a thing - do i count? (obligatory self-deprecating/fishing-for-compliments type of statement). oh, i just remembered, two of my brothers live in edinburgh so there would be quite handy, but anywhere's okay, as long as it's not too far south. dream update: last night i dreampt of some wonderfully gorgeous shoes, which were silver and glittery blue, not my usual type of thing at all but i think it is now my fate to spend my life searching for a real-life equivalent. abi, who's going to be watching alternative nation tonight like a hawk. well, a short sighted hawk. with nhs glasses. more of an owl, i suppose. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shanester35 at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 00:50:27 1998 From: shanester35 at xxx.com (Shane Harrison) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:50:27 PDT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19980915235028.16810.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi all, Just a introductory note from someone who thinks TWATTYBUS is more of the same brilliant music I've come to expect. I've been reading the archives on and off for about a year and thought it was about time I joined up. A great list you've all got going here and I'm proud to be on it at last! Anyways, am well and truly chuffed about B&S coming to the southern U.S. Anyone planning on going to the Athens, Ga. show, let me know maybe we can have a meet up somewhere. I'm in Atlanta. BTW, I think the pez dispenser idea is brilliant. More soon, cheers, shanester ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From barzy at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 01:58:37 1998 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:58:37 -0800 Subject: Sinister: pedal pushers & alter. nation Message-ID: >abi, who's going to be watching alternative nation tonight like a hawk. well, a >short sighted hawk. with nhs glasses. more of an owl, i suppose. Well...I was talking to my favourite biscuit nibbling cardie wearing lovely as he was watching the viddie for "Is It Wicked Not To Care" and he said it was all in black & white, and from his description..sounds somewhere between low budget and proper videoness. Said something about Sarah up a tree..but that could have just been him telling me about a dream he had...i'm worried about all this Chris sans glasses business. It's keeping me awake at night. If he's going to become some sort of sex symbol and i'm going to have to start fighting people for him...it might get ugly. YOU PEOPLE JUST KEEP YOUR EYES ON STUART...LOOOOK..AIN'T *HE* CUTE...LEAVE MY CHRIS OUT OF IT! Oh, something about Isobelle with a lion...though..not on wheels. And yes...clam diggers, pedal pushers....THE WORST...On MOST people. On nearly ALL people.... they are vile...HOWEVER....if any of you have ever watched the Dick Van Dyke show...I don't think there's a soul that looked at Laura Petrie and said "P U !!!" No can do...and I think that if i'd seen a wee, Scottish indie princess who looks unlike Edie Sedgwick (not sure on spelling here) ...well...you won't find ME kicking her outa bed for wearing pedal pushers...so there are 2 exceptions to the rule of pedal pushing I think....NOW...if i'd stuff my fat ass into a pair of those demonic things RUN like hell man....but hey...I think Isobelle can do them justice...ya know? Content..content...Oh yeah..does anyone (sorry if this has been asked before...) know if there is going to be, or already is..a video with most or all of the videos to date on it? I just have bits and pieces here and there and well..it's just not enough. It never is. I miss my biscuit nibbling cardie wearing saddoe. *sigh* Seymour bring him back to me! brap. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wjessica at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 01:03:43 1998 From: wjessica at xxx.com (Jessica Noelani Wright) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:03:43 -0700 Subject: Sinister: New Girl Message-ID: hi all--- just wanting to send a little note to introduce myself. i'm new to this. my name is jess. i was going to wonder if i was the only US member, but then i got shane's message. i absolutely love TBWTAS, as i'm sure you all do. i was wondering something, though. does anyone know if the name of the album has something to do with another scottish band called, The Arab Strap. anyone know them or know anything about that? i'm so glad to know there are a bunch of fans out there. b&s are not as big as they should be here in the states. -jess Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From parachute at xxx.net Wed Sep 16 01:17:50 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (brad) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:17:50 -0400 Subject: Sinister: (no subject) Message-ID: <35FF03AE.2495@earthlink.net> > And Uncle Joe's Mint Balls could keep us all aglow. won't we choke on the hair? BOOM (crash)!! -brad +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 01:57:31 1998 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 19:57:31 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: toronto show: oh woe is me In-Reply-To: <19980915014422.17130.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 14 Sep 1998, jubilee ? wrote: > i didn't think the belle and sebastian would set 19+ dates, but there > goes my optimism down the plug hole. The Chicago show is 18+. Most other dates seem to be all-ages? It would appear that the -venue- can restrict the age range of people coming into their establishment, or the city or town could prohibit people under a certain age from going into a place that serves alcohol (the Metro in Chicago does have a bar). It did seem odd to me that a band which invokes such strong feelings of being the odd, sensitive kid in school would not do all-ages shows. ("Belle and Sebastian...playing songs for children") Obviously they have a decent number of fans under 19 or 18. --Mark __ Imminent: SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 "The electricity is no better off than on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 02:01:15 1998 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:01:15 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: Elvis & Spaceboy Lyrics In-Reply-To: <000901bde04a$fa627480$c79fcdcf@brier> Message-ID: Lyrics are under the B&S discography section at www.jeepster.co.uk. I had looked around there, and B&S's own site, but didn't find the lyrics. Thus my earlier question about the words for "Electronic Renaissance" -- which are at the website by the way. (Which I would not have guessed -- Jeepster have not released _Tigermilk_ after all!) --Mark +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 06:20:44 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:20:44 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Elvis & Spaceboy Lyrics Message-ID: <00ad01bde131$c2aff340$b19fcdcf@brier> But certainly the Space Boy lyrics consist of only the first line, non? -----Original Message----- From: Mark Kolmar To: sinister Date: Tuesday, September 15, 1998 6:05 PM Subject: Re: Sinister: Elvis & Spaceboy Lyrics > >Lyrics are under the B&S discography section at www.jeepster.co.uk. I had >looked around there, and B&S's own site, but didn't find the lyrics. >Thus my earlier question about the words for "Electronic Renaissance" -- >which are at the website by the way. (Which I would not have guessed -- >Jeepster have not released _Tigermilk_ after all!) > >--Mark > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Trond.hoili at xxx.no Wed Sep 16 08:51:27 1998 From: Trond.hoili at xxx.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_H=F8ili?=) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:51:27 MET Subject: Sinister: Drum-machine Message-ID: Hi! I just read a review of TBWTAS in a Norwegian mag, and the author hailed the band in all the proper ways before he stated something like: "...and the drums sounds like a drum machine.....". So I ask you folks: Drum machine??? Where's the drum machine??? Trondy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 08:43:33 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 00:43:33 -0700 Subject: Sinister: On "Ease Your Feet" Message-ID: <014f01bde145$b65d4200$b19fcdcf@brier> ANYONE WHO DOESN'T LIKE "EASE YOUR FEET IN THE SEA" IS MENTALLY MENTAL. sorry. but whoever doesn't like this beautifully soul-searching and splendid work (which is equal to but not above the title track) needs to put it close to their ear and LISTEN. my hat is not only off, but blown from my grasp and flitting down the santa barbara high road out of my view, to Stuart and the lot for giving us a glimpse of sheer beauty in three minutes thirty seconds. gawd! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Wed Sep 16 10:36:19 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:36:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk Message-ID: <35FF8693.7F2F9EC9@jeepster.co.uk> Hello, Now, we don't want to get people all excited, but we have recently heard a fairly strong rumour that "Tigermilk" will be rereleased sometime next autumn. No other details then that i am afraid! When we know more blah blah blah ... Cheers, Katrina & David. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Wed Sep 16 10:48:47 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:48:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: All ages Dates in the US Message-ID: <35FF897F.FBB21289@jeepster.co.uk> Hello again, I've just had a chat to Neil about the 18+ Chicago and 19+ Toronto gigs and he's pretty annoyed, seeing as the band had originally requested that all the dates be all-ages. So, once the Americans wake up, he'll try to sort something out. It does look as though the venues have set the age limits ruling out the promoter + band's wishes. Keeping you posted! :) Cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Sep 15 23:44:01 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 00:44:01 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Poem/400 Years/Poem/Song/Lumba Message-ID: <01bde0fa$55964840$LocalHost@itjfvkli> >Quiz: who did the Sarah speaky bit in Dirty Dream #2 in London (clue: >it wasn't Sarah)? There's a clue in Stuart's email. Whoever gets the >answer right first gets to post something saucy and irrelevant >without me grumbling. Rodney Trotter Some fucking knob from a broadsheet Lenny Waronker T!A!G! Naughty Ciara (the smart money's on this one) The Shepherd Noel Coward Gerard zee sound man. It must be one of the above. God, my English cock cage is killing me! Have I won? If so, I want a prize. Seriously. I think the Earth's core would make a great venue for a meet-up, you can hire those mole machines quite cheaply from Halford's and you don't even need a driving licence because you're underground so nobody gives a shit. The problem arises when our friends from Brazil meet our friends from japan and can't find the brakes and their moley digger things get all ravelled up with each other and they start spinning round and what have you and before long there's no more Earth's core and the picnic has to be cancelled. So maybe Manchester's the best bet. Tag will organise it because he got most mentions in our hero's kind and thoughtful message. I love it when singers communicate with their fans by e-mail, it reminds me of Jeff Buckley promising his fans that they would soon all be making a bonfire out of ticket stubs, before tragedy befell him. And them, albeit to a lesser extent. If you go swimming, Stuart, make sure it's in a properly supervised municipal pool. Do you know what I bought today? "Grounation" by Count Ossie and the Mystic Revelation of Rastafari! Bloody hell! My fave track is the 13 minute epic "Narration". It was cheap, and rightly so. No, I'm sure it'll grow on me. You're right Nick, the booklet is full of silly mistakes that give the impression that the band are a bunch of mumbling cretins. I've been really angry about it for ages, but hadn't said anything for fear of violent reprisals when I make a boo-boo myself. Pyrenees mountain dog! That's like saying Scotland Terrier, Alsace, Ireland Wolfhound or Border Collie. Which broadsheet has got Master Murdoch's dander up in such a charming manner? Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vegus at xxx.no Wed Sep 16 11:04:59 1998 From: vegus at xxx.no (Stein Vegusdal) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:04:59 +0200 Subject: Sinister: B&S Norwegian chartbusters.... Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980916120459.00990100@mail.a.sol.no> Hi! TWATTYBUS went straight in at number 7 in the Norwegian top 40! And if that's not enough, IYFS is at number 32...:-) The new Hole went in at nr. 14, and BEE GEES(!) at number 28. This means B&S are now officially bigger than Courtney Love and the Gibb-brothers! The sad thing is that, because of this huge success, we probably wont get to see B&S live in Norway for a while, since the only place big enough for them now is the Holmenkollen ski-jump arena (capacity 80-100.000), and that will be occupied until march/april next year... Steinski +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 11:19:41 1998 From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:19:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Chart positions Message-ID: <005201bde15b$847278d0$4429c22b@bond.broadcast> I noticed this morning that not only is TwattyBus at number 12 but Screamadelica is in the high thirties. Does this mean that the great unwashed have finally come to their senses and are buying great albums, or was this week a particularly poor one for record sales? Does anyone know how many copies TwattyBus sold to get to those lofty heights? _________________________________________________ Michael Barrett, Broadcast R & D, Advanced Technology Division, SONY Broadcast & Professional, Basingstoke, Hampshire, RG22 4SB, England. E-mail: Michael.Barrett at adv.sonybpe.com Tel: +44 (0)1256 483501, Fax: +44 (0)1256 810950 "On a 9 to 5 lemon, looking for the lime" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Wed Sep 16 11:22:26 1998 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins, Tim) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:22:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: a point-by-point rebuttal/ multiple rubbish bonanza Message-ID: Gawd, I dunno, I live in north west Lancashire for five years, waiting for something to happen, then when I decide to leave, you lot go and make something happen. Let that be a lesson to me. Beth wrote: > And no..he's not some musical idiot...he's worked at a music magazine for 8 years... > hmmm...isn't that the definition of a musical idiot...? Anyway, Tag wrote: I like the idea of a Sinister summer holiday. We could go to Blackpool, it's famous for fresh and air and fun. Yes, and watch it all go wrong as the sinister crowd turns to nibbling disco biscuits by mistake and watches the world twist and become a savage and monstrous place for a cardie-wearer. This could be fun. Blackpool is an amazing place of a summer evening, everyone having fun, and the whole town just one wrong word away from erupting into beer-fuelled violence. Mind, if you're going to Blackpool, you might as well go to sunny Morecambe (pron: Moricambi), for that authentic run-down, as-you-stare-through-the-rain feeling. Belle and Sebastian should play at the Midland Hotel, a faded, flaking art deco marvel, looking out over the mud and grey water of Morecambe Bay, and the finest building in the North West of England. Honest. The hotel is shaped something like an apostrophe, too, so it could be educational. The following sentence requires attention to be paid to its punctuation. I, like Peter Miller (that cockered, clay-brained varlot), am attracted by the idea of a meet up in the centre of the earth. We could hold a survey at each of the levels of hell, asking how many copies of Tigermilk there were at each. Alternatively, can I suggest that we hold a meet up in Purgatory? I am reliably informed that discussions in Purgatory just now are running along the lines of 'Next autumn? *Next bloody autumn?! That's ages...'. Nick said: >On that note, how about at the next concert, putting Stuart's poser to >the test. If we were to remove our clothes, *do* you think the singer >would notice? This very thing happened *just in front* of me and Mr Edward 'Placepot' Mason (the lying, cheating underpants rustler), at Nottingham. And the band appeared not to notice at all. Northy, back from hanging around that garage *again*, wrote: >the best trax are, in my humble opinion of course, IIWNTC and TBWTAS I prefer ICBTBYW, BOTCYTLS and STFU. But that's just me. Sarah gently opined: >Micheal - Tokyo Joes? A GOOD CLUB!!! I'm sorry, are you TWELVE? That's >the worst fucking club in the north west!! It's renowned for rapists and >perverts and TRENDY DUDE HEAVEN!!! Are rape and perversion trendy in Preston then? I had guessed that that was the case... Talking of which, Paul said: >Quiz: who did the Sarah speaky bit in Dirty Dream #2 in London (clue: >it wasn't Sarah)? There's a clue in Stuart's email. Whoever gets the >answer right first gets to post something saucy and irrelevant >without me grumbling. Was it you, Honey? You incorrigible old self-publicist, you couldn't keep it to yourself, could you. A couple of people wrote: >tell me the names of unreleased Belle and Sebastian songs Does 'If Only I Had Lips, Then I Could Kiss You' count? It is, in a very real sense, a Belle and Sebastian song, although, as diligent list readers know, it was first sung by 'the coolest cold-blooded crooner on the planet'. Once again, see: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/hypermail/1998-month-02/0111.html for full details. Yaz, I demand my mars bar. That is all for now. Cheerio Tim +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Wed Sep 16 11:16:13 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:16:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Woolies' chart position References: Message-ID: <35FF8FED.2AEFBDDE@jeepster.co.uk> Stephen Garland wrote: > I needed some little plastic things that only Woolies sells, so I > popped over there this lunchtime. I went > over to the record section - to look at the Woolworth's Top 75 > to find TW*TTYBUS at number...ermmm...it wasn't there at all! when we were shipping out the pre-orders of the album a strange thing came over us, a weird desire came over us to help the little indie stores and to not give a shit about the big chains who hadn't stocked b&s before and were now doing so just to make the moeny and not because they cared for the music. so when woolies asked the distribution company for a similiarly ludicrous discount that they get from EMI and Sony, (i.e. cheap and include the album in a buy 2 get 38 free type offer!), we just told them to go get screwed and pay the dealer price without whinging. we gave what discount we could afford to places like 'rough trade', 'fopp' and 'missing' who are all lovely stores and actually love the music. woolies should've gone back on their decision to not buy any since we hadn't given them discount, since we had got into the official charts. but who cares if woolies have it or not - if you've yet to buy it or need to buy more in the run up to christmas, then give your money to an indie. go to 'rough trade' even if it means an extra bus ride or something. when you buy an 'indie' record you help to support new music and a label that trys to bring new music to you. but if you buy from a major store then you're only helping them to dictate what you'll buy next through supporting their policies - so buy through an 'indie' store too and help support the outlets for the new music that's created. you know it's the right thing to do :) david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Wed Sep 16 11:25:32 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:25:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Drum-machine References: Message-ID: <35FF921C.D3140A7F@jeepster.co.uk> there is no drum machine - there is merely the ambi-elasti-dextrous feats of the one and only richard colburn - who, btw, is one hell of a partying person ;) -- Trond Høili wrote: > > Hi! > > I just read a review of TBWTAS in a Norwegian mag, and the author > hailed the band in all the proper ways before he stated something > like: "...and the drums sounds like a drum machine.....". So I ask > you folks: Drum machine??? Where's the drum machine??? > > Trondy -- david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Wed Sep 16 11:22:12 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:22:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Elvis & Spaceboy Lyrics References: <00ad01bde131$c2aff340$b19fcdcf@brier> Message-ID: <35FF9154.77CE1751@jeepster.co.uk> does anyone volunteer to compile the lyrics to space boy dream? i mean that's what we had to do for the century of elvis lyrics, remember? -- Brier Random wrote: > > But certainly the Space Boy lyrics consist of only the first line, non? -- david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Sep 16 11:49:14 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:49:14 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Lavatory Inspector Message-ID: <01bde15f$a5b9c580$LocalHost@itjfvkli> We've just had a visit from the lavatory inspector. I kid you not. He accused us of leaking inadvertently. Oh well. All of which has made me forget what I was going to say...oh yes, Keith asked if Godzooky appears in Godzilla. Yes, he bloody well does, along with about 200 brothers and sisters, all of which hatch out from their shells in Madison Square Gardens, and you don't need me to tell you the kind of havoc they could wreak out on the streets of New York. Mark Kolmar wrote: It did seem odd to me that a band which invokes such strong feelings of being the odd, sensitive kid in school would not do all-ages shows. ("Belle and Sebastian...playing songs for children") Obviously they have a decent number of fans under 19 or 18. I bet it's got more to do with promotors than the band memebers themselves. It would be a bit difficult for them to vet each venue personally when they're so far away from home. I suspect there's nothing Stuart Murdoch likes more than entertaining rooms full of squealing schoolgirls, so I'm sure he'll be just as upset as the rest of you, and might be persuaded to do an acoustic spot at your school assembley to redress the balance. The Casell Dictionary of Slang wrote: Sarah was grooving off Belle and Sebastian I'll be first in the queue for this tome, but I have a sneaking suspicion that I'll be the only one who doesn't think Sarah is lapping up an enjoyable dose of retro television. That's what my mum would think anyway. Beth wrote: "Wah wah wah..Isobelle's S sound annoy me" "wah wah wah...Stuart sings to quiet and i've got to turn up my radio"..."They sound like this band...they sound like that dead guy." I thought the thing about S sounds was going a bit too far as well, I mean, the same thing happens on the bus. As for saying what things sound like, I don't really have a problem with that, because I don't require 100% originality, which is just as welll, because it doesn't exist, when you think something sounds like nothing on earth it's usuually because you haven't heard what it sounds like. So, at least for me, it's just a bit of fun, and in no way a criticism of the band or anything like that. You've got to pick a pocket or two. McRagtag McRote Scropton is conveniently located, a matter of minutes from East Midlands International Airport. Our very own Little Peter Miller, himself a native of the area, surely spent many happy days there as a youth, playing snakes and ladders, headers and volleys, doctors and nurses and other carefree childhood pursuits. Indeed, East Mid (to its friends) airport played a formative role in my childhood, mainly as the destination of choice for ridiculously long bike rides. Headers and volleys rules. I watched Real Sociedad against Sparta Prague last night, two of my adopted teams. It was good, better than Godzilla. I don't know where Scropton is. Has it got a shop? I think that's it for now, Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bcaron at xxx.fr Wed Sep 16 12:14:44 1998 From: bcaron at xxx.fr (Bertrand Caron) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:14:44 +0200 Subject: Sinister: article dans les Inrockuptible Message-ID: <35FF9DA4.3920@enserg.fr> Yesterday, i read in the inrocks an article... In fact it was an interview of the band(B&S)... Yes you haear right... The band accepted to answer the question of a journalist... The journalist says that the interview took place in the church where they live... All the members where there... But the interview was rather short and SM didn't say much but it was rather interesting because he speaks about their way of living... If you want to know more please ask...(if so,make a cc to bcaron at enserg.fr because i only have the digest version of the list... Bertrand, Grenoble, France +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From babyblu at xxx.uk Wed Sep 16 12:39:39 1998 From: babyblu at xxx.uk (Rory Mackie) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:39:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Grouting, day-glo buses and tootsie roll. References: <199809151903.UAA27516@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <35FFA37B.7895@gold.globalcafe.co.uk> A new, tall, elegant, rich kid wrote: > Katrina is so notoriously efficient and helpful that she was standing with > Andy Symington after the Nottingham show while Andy was djiing and Andy > mentioned that there was a lot of rubbish around left from the gig, not > meaning anything by it or anything, just making conversation. Katrina fetched > a brush immediately and started sweeping up around the numerous people dancing > > and amid the general havoc of roadies, dancers and noise. With her perfectly > knotted hankerchief round her neck she was the most perfect 50's svelte and > flustered sweeper upper ever. Can I just mention then Katrina that my bathroom grouting could do with a bit of a going over. I can't? Fair enough. Please leave Rollercoaster Ride alone, because it hurts me deeply when you speak Ill of it, I love it so. Hopefully I'll soon be driving across America in a big fuck-off day-glo bus like in The Electric Kool Aid Acid Test, to see the show in Philadelphia, (with Lady Penelope following sedately behind in her luxuriant pink roller) won't that be exciting! Do any of our American cousins know if there are any tickets left for this show? And how far is Philly from NY?, I kinda hope it's a long way so'se I can live out all those Kerouac fantasies. And just where exactly can I get a tootsie roll? Oh you guys are so quaint! I love your accent!, say margarine! etc.... StayInShapeRoryxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SpaceboyUK at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 13:23:05 1998 From: SpaceboyUK at xxx.com (SpaceboyUK at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:23:05 EDT Subject: Sinister: Drum-machine Message-ID: <968fd56a.35ffada9@aol.com> on the pre-tigermilk demos and electronic renaisannce -those songs have drum machines or at least some sort of drum programming thing. im not sure about Sleep The Clock Around-that sounds like machines too. but no matter-man or machine- it still comes out as good -a.james. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 13:41:47 1998 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 05:41:47 PDT Subject: Sinister: further RS revelations Message-ID: <19980916124147.9498.qmail@hotmail.com> I hate to keep posting about this retarded book, but I thought this was relevant, sort of - the Average White Band were, in fact, Scottish. I'll have you know that that was a secret to me. And they named their second album 'AWB' a 'perfect album' (5*). Was there ever a secret scene of funky boogie in Scotland, of which the Average White Band was the proverbial shark's fin? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aevans at xxx.uk Wed Sep 16 13:36:44 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:36:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Flower Power Message-ID: <01BDE177.0C88ED60@pc07628> Just bought NME. News In Brief : Belle & Sebastian, Primal Scream, The Chemical Brothers, Arab Strap and The Verve are among artists featured on the soundtrack of The Acid House...blah blah blah The soundtrack....features four previously unreleased songs from.......Belle and Sebastian (Floral Graffitti).....Que ???? Heinitz wrote : >pedal pushers are indeed the worst item of clothing ever, they look SO bad. >whoever it was suggested isobel was wearing them to fit in with the natives, >GRRRRRR. though not exactly an inhabitant of leeds, i'm not far away so i have >to feel slighted by that remark. I'm sorry, but if you want me to apologise properly you'll have to dress up in wellington boots with a Barbour and a flat cap and sing your frustrations in the style of the Wurzels. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 13:59:11 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:59:11 -0400 Subject: Sinister: unreleased, unpopular, unfunny Message-ID: <35FFB626.11866982@bigfoot.com> Adding to the "unreleased songs" list: > 1. London Has Let Me Down Again. > 2. Hurleys Having Dreams. > 3. Pocket-Book Angel. > 4. The Loneliness Of A Middle Distance Runner. > 5. Tigermilk (instrumental). > 6. Modern Rock Song. > 7. Slow Graffiti. > 8. Rhoda. > 9. Wrong Love. > 10. I Know Where The Summer Goes. Thank's to Stuart M.'s post (btw., I can't think of many other lists where the main songwriter pipes in with a few thoughts), we can now add "Paper Boat" to this list. Or can we? None of us have heard it...Stuart singing? Should I be frightened? So that makes 11 unreleased songs, 6 of which I've heard. Putting my genius math skills to work, that's more than half. An exercise in futility, but here goes: If anyone could tape Loneliness, Rhoda and Summer for me, I'd truly appreciate it. Maybe that Stuart Murdoch can tape them for me since he's a newbie and therefore easily taken advantage of. One "Jess" said: > b&s are not as big as they should be here in the states. > Don't say that! If it comes true you'll be really sorry. Think of all the people you hate and imagine them saying, "Dude! Let's get drunk and listen to Aerosmith and Belle and Sebastian!" Is that really what you want? Is it? IS IT?! I have another entry for a product that Jeepster can prepare for the day when Belle and Sebastian are wholeheartedly ready to sell out. "Stars of Track and Field" for the Playstation. Kids of all ages can pick their favorite B&S band member and go head-to-head in a themed decathalon..."Throw the Clock Around" (discus), "I Could Be Vaulting", etc. Maybe a few other sports could be added, too: "We Rule the Pool", "The Skate that I Am In", "Skeeting Other People", etc. Maybe I'll start my own company. You'll find "Stars..." in the catalog in between the stuffed, snow-covered foxes and B&S logo arab straps. ~Reid -- "I told myself I'd head to someplace exotic, Portland maybe or Tacoma, Washington, but deep down I knew that once my bags were packed, I'd return to North Carolina." -David Sedaris +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 14:06:37 1998 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 06:06:37 PDT Subject: Sinister: Woolies' chart position Message-ID: <19980916130638.29567.qmail@hotmail.com> umm.... I take sort of serious issue with the following.... I mean, supporting indie stores and all is great, yes, but the unfortunate truth is that most Mom + Pop record stores don't exist outside of major urban centers around the world anymore. In my hometown, in the United States, your only option to get any music AT ALL was to drive for an hour and a half to get to a Woolies-style establishment. Driving to an indie store takes anywhere between six and twelve hours round trip. In other words, not an option. Point being, Belle and Sebastian have made records that could not only conquer the world but bring a measure of unvarnished goodness into it, and I think the merchandising department's hobbling them is not only a sin but a darn shame. If love of music was what really drove your department you'd be selling your CD's at the price it cost you to manufacture them.... no? Of course not. I think that it would be wise to jump on every chance to get their music out there now, before their talent dries up and goes away and they become an embarrassment to their former selves like the Average White Band or something. Driving back to my hometown (nine hours each way) I put in "If You're Feeling Sinister" and my PearlJam/Dave Matthews-obsessed traveling partner was nearly in tears at having a whole new, better world revealed to him, joyous and unbelieving. This is no shit, brothers and sisters. With a "Fox In The Snow" He Was Healed. Anyhow. Nuff tirade. Get the word out. >> I needed some little plastic things that only Woolies sells, so I >> popped over there this lunchtime. I went >> over to the record section - to look at the Woolworth's Top 75 >> to find TW*TTYBUS at number...ermmm...it wasn't there at all! > > >when we were shipping out the pre-orders of the album a strange thing >came over us, a weird desire came over us to help the little indie >stores and to not give a shit about the big chains who hadn't stocked >b&s before and were now doing so just to make the moeny and not because >they cared for the music. > >so when woolies asked the distribution company for a similiarly >ludicrous discount that they get from EMI and Sony, (i.e. cheap and >include the album in a buy 2 get 38 free type offer!), we just told them >to go get screwed and pay the dealer price without whinging. > >we gave what discount we could afford to places like 'rough trade', >'fopp' and 'missing' who are all lovely stores and actually love the >music. > >woolies should've gone back on their decision to not buy any since we >hadn't given them discount, since we had got into the official charts. >but who cares if woolies have it or not - if you've yet to buy it or >need to buy more in the run up to christmas, then give your money to an >indie. go to 'rough trade' even if it means an extra bus ride or >something. > >when you buy an 'indie' record you help to support new music and a label >that trys to bring new music to you. but if you buy from a major store >then you're only helping them to dictate what you'll buy next through >supporting their policies - so buy through an 'indie' store too and help >support the outlets for the new music that's created. > >you know it's the right thing to do :) > >david kitchen > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk Wed Sep 16 14:17:50 1998 From: Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk (Sarah Wheeler) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:17:50 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: I could be relay-ing Message-ID: <199809161317.OAA11991@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk> >I have another entry for a product that Jeepster can prepare for the day >when Belle and Sebastian are wholeheartedly ready to sell out. "Stars >of Track and Field" for the Playstation. Kids of all ages can pick >their favorite B&S band member and go head-to-head in a themed >decathalon..."Throw the Clock Around" (discus), "I Could Be Vaulting", >etc. Maybe a few other sports could be added, too: "We Rule the Pool", >"The Skate that I Am In", "Skeeting Other People", etc. Maybe I'll >start my own company. You'll find "Stars..." in the catalog in between >the stuffed, snow-covered foxes and B&S logo arab straps. Hahaha. I just hope it doesn't knacker the control pads the way Daley Thompson's Decathlon knackered my Commodore 64 joystick!! And my arm got dead sore as well! mmmm, if I reassure you that I am definitely a girl, does this remove the phallic nature of this mail?? Ok bye bye Sarah x ======================= Sarah Wheeler Room 106 West Medical Building University of Glasgow GLASGOW G12 8QQ 0141-339 8855 ext.2860 ======================= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Wed Sep 16 15:21:58 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:21:58 Subject: Sinister: Win tickets for the Strasbourg Gig Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19980916152158.2fbf0c8e@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> You can win free tickets for the Strasbourg gig (October 1st). Just send a email to : boutique at inrockuptibles.com Les Inrockuptibles is a french magazine. I still have my ticket ! Philippe, from Strasbourg +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 14:00:06 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:00:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: My god, I'm a fraud Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22230AD1@server1.HITEntertainment.com> David K said: "so buy through an 'indie' store too and help support the outlets for the new music that's created." You would say that now you've got into the charts...;-) I'm also concerned about my New York trip now. I go and buy the bloody tickets, then Peter reveals all about the hundreds of monsters roaming the streets! Belle and Sebastian are a band who must have literally dozens of fans unwilling to be eaten by dinosaurs - you'd have thought they would have been thoughtful enough to play somewhere where this wasn't an issue. Bugger me - I've just noticed that there are an extra 100 or so of you on the list who I'm sure weren't there last week - Paul, are you going to be able to keep everything shipshape and (indeed) Bristol fashion? And Rory, I just can't believe you had the nerve to ask Katrina round your place for a bit of "grouting" (I'm hip to the young person's lingo, too right I am); and in such a public manner too! She's a nice girl, and I'm sure is blushing furiously under her Audrey Hepburn-esque outfit (see previous posting on pedal pushers), just like she does if you say the word "bosoms" in her presence... Before I go, I'd like to point out that I don't actually own a cardie of any sort. I'll get me coat... Biondino xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mjh18 at xxx.uk Wed Sep 16 14:29:46 1998 From: mjh18 at xxx.uk (M.J. Hibbett) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:29:46 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: further RS revelations In-Reply-To: <19980916124147.9498.qmail@hotmail.com> from "Corpora Arenacea" at Sep 16, 98 05:41:47 am Message-ID: <1047.199809161329@harrier.le.ac.uk> > > > I hate to keep posting about this retarded book, but I thought this was > relevant, sort of - the Average White Band were, in fact, Scottish. I'll > have you know that that was a secret to me. And they named their second > album 'AWB' a 'perfect album' (5*). Was there ever a secret scene of > funky boogie in Scotland, of which the Average White Band was the > proverbial shark's fin? Fascinating Fact: Bloke out of Average White Band played Bass in Paul McCartney's band around Flowers in the Dirt/Off The Ground time. Er... or so somebody told me. I certainly wouldn't know. Woolworths stuff - while it is of course entirely VALID to give discounts to indie stores and not to such lackeys of THE MAN as Woolworths (actually DOUBLE VALID), it should be remembered that not every town has an indie store - one of the JOYS of B&S is the whole Not Kowtowing To Londo-Centric MEdia BIT and in fact Doing It For The KIDS, many of whom only have Woolies as an outlet. Or WH Smiths, so would be a shame to alienate them. I wish woolies would take my records... In MOJO (which i read in the shop) there is a big list of 100 top singers, which is quite interesting - no B&S, but i think Nick Drake's in there, and Bob Dylan comes admirably high. Is Floral Graffiti the new name then? Surely NME can't get anything wrong? Must get on now and MOURN the loss of Xfm, because my previous stance of not caring is apparently the same as being THE DEVIL, according to said tome of Correctness... Cheers, Mark +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Wed Sep 16 14:35:29 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:35:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Angelic indie stores versus the evil big stores Message-ID: <01BDE17F.410CB550@keith@qss.co.uk> >umm.... I take sort of serious issue with the following.... >I mean, supporting indie stores and all is great, yes, but the >unfortunate truth is that most Mom + Pop record stores don't exist >outside of major urban centers around the world anymore. Yes I'd agree with this one, it certainly seems unfair - plus Indie stores are just as into making money as major store, they simply each cater for their own market. Everyone I know who's worked in one of these shops has wound up hating it cause they thought they'd be into the music, and they're essentially into making money. Fopp and Missing certainly don't hide their Sting(*) albums in a corner somewhere, they're always there, smacking you in the face as soon as you enter the place. When I lived in Falkirk, Woolworths was the only place I was really able to buy records - apart from Sleeves, which was an "indie" record shop. I didn't like that shop, the guy once laughed at me for buying "Remain in Light" by Talking Heads. Another point is that by confining B+S records to purely indie stores, you are somewhat just preaching to the converted aren't you? I realise the intentions are good, but surely it'd be better if there was a B+S album in woolies rather than just another Colour me Badd album. Fopp for one have often forced me to go to HMV to buy albums. Last year I decided to upgrade my copy of Remain in Light (for the second time. 10 years ago in Sleeves I bought it on tape, 5 years ago I bought it from the great Professor Plastic second hand for 4 quid) to CD. It was like 14.99 in Fopp, and 11.99 in HMV. Bastards! I've now bought "Remain in Light" 3 times and the only time I got laughed at was in the indie shop! Evil bastards! Cheers, Keith. * One of my favourite ever album sleeve pictures is in one of Sting's recent albums, I think it's called "10 Summoner's Tales", and inside the booklet, Sting is picture riding a horse playing a Lute, whilst posing in a "thoughtful" manner +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk Wed Sep 16 14:45:51 1998 From: Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk (Sarah Wheeler) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:45:51 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Aaah, Falkirk Message-ID: <199809161345.OAA09748@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk> >When I lived in Falkirk, Woolworths was the only place I was really able to buy >records - apart from Sleeves, which was an "indie" record shop. I didn't like >that shop, the guy once laughed at me for buying "Remain in Light" by Talking >Heads. That'll be the Sleeves that Aidan Moffat [The Boy From (The) Arab Strap] worked in for countless numbers of years, and my flatmate's uncle Roy manages. Bye bye Sarah x ======================= Sarah Wheeler Room 106 West Medical Building University of Glasgow GLASGOW G12 8QQ 0141-339 8855 ext.2860 ======================= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SIV_941299 at xxx.no Wed Sep 16 14:50:32 1998 From: SIV_941299 at xxx.no (CHRISTIAN AAMODT) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:50:32 +0200 (MET-DST) Subject: Sinister: Cover scans of "Tigermilk" - anyone? Message-ID: <980916155032.25433d1a@debet.nhh.no> Hello there B&S-fans! Does anybody know where to find a scan of the original Tigermilk cover artwork? I would like to make a cover for my tape copy. Any help appreciated... -Christian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tridophelom at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 15:01:25 1998 From: tridophelom at xxx.com (will grey) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:01:25 PDT Subject: Sinister: Woolies' chart position Message-ID: <19980916140125.16441.qmail@hotmail.com> >but who cares if woolies have it or not - if you've yet to buy it or >need to buy more in the run up to christmas, then give your money to an >indie. go to 'rough trade' even if it means an extra bus ride or >something. > >when you buy an 'indie' record you help to support new music and a label >that trys to bring new music to you. but if you buy from a major store >then you're only helping them to dictate what you'll buy next through >supporting their policies - so buy through an 'indie' store too and help >support the outlets for the new music that's created. > >you know it's the right thing to do :) hear hear! down with the man! :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 1974052 at xxx.fr Wed Sep 16 16:03:39 1998 From: 1974052 at xxx.fr (Pierre-Henri Crave) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:03:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I'm new Message-ID: <18927A52F1@routsip.univ-tlse1.fr> Hi, I'm new on Sinister (and I just hope this message is the beginning of a long relationship with all of you...).Well, I don't know much about the current subjects (I've just read some strange messages about unreleased songs and about drum-machines), so I'll just give you some unoriginal and uninteresting informations. Here they are: I'm French and I'll be 22 next week. I've also seen that there was at least one other French guy here (hi Philippe!). I'm sure there are many others cause B&S have a cult status in France. In fact, I'm not a die-hard fan of B&S. I mean, I don't collect their EPs or rare stuff or anything. I've just got 'Sinister' (which I can't help listening to obsessively) and 'Arab Strap'... 'Tigermilk' isn't available in France... I've seen that meet-ups were planned. It could be cool... Well, that's all. Bye! leaping around all night long, soporific-eyed during the day Pierre-Henri Crave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ciflux at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 15:04:45 1998 From: Ciflux at xxx.com (Ciflux at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:04:45 EDT Subject: Sinister: re: trixies Message-ID: <92e0d30.35ffc57d@aol.com> << Do any of you cats out their remember or know of a band from the early eighties? called Trixies Big Red Motorbike? >> yes indeedy! They were a duo from the Isle of Wight, consisting of Mark Litten and his sister Melanie. They sounded quite a bit like the Marine Girls...and, in fact, were quite good friends with them back in the day. "Norman & Narcissus," "That's The End Of That," "One Nation Under A Brolley," "You Took Him Away From Me"...they had an insane number of unsung classics. You can find most of their catalog on a compilation LP, _The Initmate Sound of Trixie's Big Red Motorbike_, on Accident Records. Find out more at their website: http://www.miaow.oaktree.co.uk/accident/trixie/. I used to be in a band that covered "That's The End Of That." :) mike ciflux at aol.com http://members.aol.com/ciflux +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 15:07:32 1998 From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:07:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Fw: Anagrams of 'Belle And Sebastian' Message-ID: <000d01bde17b$58ff3830$4429c22b@bond.broadcast> I apologise if this has been done before, but I found some of these quite funny (but then, I'm easily amused). Lesbian's neat blade. Beat alien baldness. eliteness - Banal & bad . Dateable 'n' lesbians. An able saint bleeds. Dabble senile Satan. Dabble sanest alien. Best and able aliens. Lesbian's beaten lad. Bleed, lesbian Satan. Banal, idle, sane best. Blasted bean aliens. A lesbian's able dent. Beat banal idleness. Bald lesbians eaten. Tabled sane lesbian. Tenable, sad lesbian. Dabble in a lateness. Lendable ant biases. Banal nasties bleed. Bleed a lesbian's ant. Dabble in Satan, else... Sensible, banal date. Dabble in neat sales. Beats and able lines. Bend as ablest alien. (By the way, I didn't do these, so if they aren't correct its not my fault) _________________________________________________ Michael Barrett, Broadcast R & D, Advanced Technology Division, SONY Broadcast & Professional, Basingstoke, Hampshire, RG22 4SB, England. E-mail: Michael.Barrett at adv.sonybpe.com Tel: +44 (0)1256 483501, Fax: +44 (0)1256 810950 "On a 9 to 5 lemon, looking for the lime" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cleonard at xxx.COM Wed Sep 16 15:14:52 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:14:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Paper Boat Message-ID: I got my some of my holiday photo's developed yesterday. I look particularly furious in most of them, sort of like a scary tink. There's some lovely one's of some of you lot. Particularly Ooon in the robin hood hat. Come back Oon, I miss you. Ooon. Oooooooooooooooooooooooon. Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon. Oon's real name is Yingluck and Thai ghosts just have heads and intestines. I have a cracker of the gorgeous Pam Berry, standing right next to that strange cow fur wallpaper in the Marcus Gravy center. To her right, Steady Mike is trying to sneak by, and to her left the famous miss julia looks like she is doing eric morcambe doing that thing with his arm when he's having a sly gulp of his ginger. Ho ho. Here, was that an ink polaroid? I didn't mean to do that, shite. Speaking of Eric Morcambe, you should have heard Pam singing in Trousers flat after we went bowling. What a sweet voice. She's brilliant. Trousers has a big picture of a naked man with a semi stiffy above his couch, just right about ear height. That's in the next set of photees which I havnae got developed yet. But I will. Uh-huh. Stuart Murdoch: But we recorded a song when we got back called Paper Boat that Stuart wrote and sang! Brilliant. I'm quite partial to paper boats, they're the only thing I can origami. But folk usually say "that's a lovely hat" and put it on their head and I'm like "You've got a boat on your head, you look really silly". Humph. My great uncle Davie taught me how to make them when I was four. Sadly, he died yesterday, so I really hope it's a nice song. Balfron (where I'm from) sits on the banks of the River Endrick which flows into Loch Lomond, where Take the High Road the classic Scottish Soap is set. I remember, after learning how to make a paper boat I ran down to the river, set it sailing down the river then ran home to watch take the high road, and see if my little paper boat was on the telly. And it wasn't, but I told great Uncle Davie it was. melancholy chris +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bferneyhough at xxx.uk Wed Sep 16 15:17:18 1998 From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (Ben Ferneyhough) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:17:18 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: NME review - not for the nervous. Message-ID: <199809161417.PAA21490@brookes.ac.uk> Dear all, not seen this posted yet, so thought I'd do the honours. Enjoy ! Ben. BELLE & SEBASTIAN London Shepherd's Bush Empire Shake awake the spirit of John Lennon and go tell the Good Lord above the news - a survey by the Norfolk Evangelical Christian Fellowship has revealed that Sir Cliff Richard is a more famous Christian than The Pope and Mother Theresa. In fact, were it not for the spiritual stamina of a little chappy called Jesus, Sir Clifford would be the most famous God-loving person on the planet. Makes you wonder, doesn't it? It most certainly does. Rather like this: 10.15pm on a dank Monday night and the Belle & Sebastian hordes are baying for blood. Really. They have watched, or rather attempted to watch Elliott Smith, who spent his entire solo spot sitting down, thus ensuring that 87 per cent of the crowd were treated to the toppermost of his bobble hat. Very Belle & Sebastian. They have listened to the DJ playing a stack of '60s tunes which are both unfamiliar, yet naggingly tuneful, as if they're all cracking tracks from albums we all really should own, but don't. Very, very Belle & Sebastian. And the band are half-an-hour late onstage. Now boo. And hiss. Three thousand Sebastianites cannot be wrong. For, if nothing else, tonight will go down in history as the day that The Spirit Of Sarah Records went stadium rock; when the blushing indie schmindie virgin bride threw off her Field Mice T-shirt, set fire to her Heavenly bra and marched into the hairy arena with a guttural growl which intimated, "Get out of the way, Then Jericho! There's been a few changes around here!" And then Belle & Sebastian come on. And you can't hear anything. Oh well. Now, we admire Belle & Sebastian for their literalism - they released a single called 'Dog On Wheels' and the sleeve was a picture of a dog on wheels, and they sound a bit like Felt and wear Felt T-shirts. We admire them for their sublimely individual records which are graceful and intelligent and, like, really grown-up, yet deliciously naive at the same time. And we particularly admire them for their cavalier disregard for the tedious orthodoxy of the music industry, with its ever-spinning hamster wheel of interviews and photo sessions and muddy festivals and mucky expos�s. It's just that throughout Belle & Sebastian's set we keep thinking, 'God help us if there's a war'. Quiet? We'll give you quiet. "Dance, you lame fuckers!" shouts a man in the balcony. "Hrrmphff. Must be the heat!" mumbles Stuart Murdoch, by way of response. "Turn it up!" shouts a punter by the bar. "Shut the fuck up!" snarls the man near the back. Now, this is getting good. We can tell that Belle & Sebastian are a teensy-weensy below full volume by the way in which a slightly twitched tambourine drowns out the guitar and a sodding xylophone solo rings out loud and true, much like Mister Edge's big axe on Red Rock all those years ago. Even loitering 20 yards away from the band, it feels like you're standing in the Doctor Martens tent at Reading. Watching Red House Painters on the main stage. "It could all do with some va-voom," observes a perplexed passing enthusiast. And he isn't wrong. There really is very little point in taking Belle & Sebastian to task for being 'mimsy'. This is rather like berating Black Sabbath for being a bit 'metal', like suggesting that Brian Molko looks a bit like a 'girl', like having a go at Jamiroquai for being a bit of a 'tosser'. It does not matter. What does matter, however, is the reverence afforded to this free-flowing ragbag of Scottish shysters. The smallest offhand joke brings knowing guffaws from the masses. A mid-set raffle (we shit thee not, kids - first prize: rare-as-a-dodo's-bum copy of debut album 'Tigermilk') induces admiring coos. The Belle & Sebastian mugs on the merchandise stall cause fans to blurt, "Oh look! A Belle & Sebastian mug! How sweeeeet!" And unsurprisingly, the lilting likes of 'A Century Of Fakers' and 'The Boy With The Arab Strap' send the anti-moshpit into the sort of raptures which could seriously damage your health - quite literally in one case as Murdoch has to stop the gig to allow security the opportunity to rescue one overemotional sort. For while Belle & Sebastian undoubtedly represent the M & S of musical nourishment (classy and clever, yet not out of the average shopper's reach) and their followers were most certainly born to be mild, there is one hell of a weird vibe surrounding this very strange band. Loyalty? Passion? Earnestness? Not since the heyday of The Smiths have we witnessed such an outpouring of obvious, unblemished delight from an 'indie' audience. But whereas Morrissey gave it his ego-ballooning all, revelling in the love and the limelight, Belle & Sebastian appear to be content to shuffle along in the shadows, all gentle strokes for introspective folks, giving back as little as they possibly can. And don't the kids just love it. Any chance of an encore? Don't be silly. Sir Cliffage, almost the globe's most famous Christian. Belle & Sebastian, soon to be playing an arena near you. Makes you wonder, doesn't it? Simon Williams +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 1974052 at xxx.fr Wed Sep 16 16:31:42 1998 From: 1974052 at xxx.fr (Pierre-Henri Crave) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:31:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Fw: Anagrams of 'Belle And Sebastian' In-Reply-To: <000d01bde17b$58ff3830$4429c22b@bond.broadcast> Message-ID: <190A205147@routsip.univ-tlse1.fr> > From: "Michael" > To: "sinister" > Subject: Sinister: Fw: Anagrams of 'Belle And Sebastian' > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:07:32 +0100 > Reply-to: "Michael" > > I apologise if this has been done before, but I found some of these quite > funny (but then, I'm easily amused). > > Lesbian's neat blade. > Beat alien baldness. > eliteness - Banal & bad . > Dateable 'n' lesbians. > An able saint bleeds. > Dabble senile Satan. > Dabble sanest alien. > Best and able aliens. > Lesbian's beaten lad. > Bleed, lesbian Satan. > Banal, idle, sane best. > Blasted bean aliens. > A lesbian's able dent. > Beat banal idleness. > Bald lesbians eaten. > Tabled sane lesbian. > Tenable, sad lesbian. > Dabble in a lateness. > Lendable ant biases. > Banal nasties bleed. > Bleed a lesbian's ant. > Dabble in Satan, else... > > Sensible, banal date. > > Dabble in neat sales. > Beats and able lines. > Bend as ablest alien. > Sure, Michael, your list is quite funny, but I'm afraid it reveals some of your obsessions... leaping around all night long, soporific-eyed during the day Pierre-Henri Crave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Wed Sep 16 15:44:20 1998 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins, Tim) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:44:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Woolies' chart position Message-ID: Corporal Arenacea said: > umm.... I take sort of serious issue with the following.... > I mean, supporting indie stores and all is great, yes, but the > unfortunate truth is that most Mom + Pop record stores don't exist > outside of major urban centers around the world anymore. > Two things: 1) do you mean the world, or do you mean the U.S.? I don't know about the rest of the world, I only really know about record shopping in England, and I do know that Woolworths not having it is unlikely to inconvenience more than a tiny number of fans (i.e. those living in very, very remote areas). Frankly, those fans will not be relying on the likes of Woolworths for their musical purchases. Most will be used to travelling a little way to get their music. 2) Since, as you probably know (http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/hypermail/current/0487.html), the Jeepster version only covers the UK and Eire anyway, and so it's only really relevant to talk about this 'territory' when thinking about David's post. I'm sure Matador are handling Wal-mart and suchlike differently. There aren't a great number of places in England where people have rely on Woolworths to get their records anymore. The town where I grew up, Sidmouth, is one of them, come to think of it. And I got used to travelling the twelve miles into Exeter to buy my records. As did everyone else who was at all interested in music. So it goes. Mark said: >one of the JOYS of B&S is the whole Not Kow-towing To London-Centric Media BIT and in >fact Doing It For The KIDS, many of whom only have Woolies as an outlet. while Keith said: >Another point is that by confining B+S records to purely indie stores, you >are somewhat just preaching to the converted aren't you? I realise the >intentions are good, but surely it'd be better if there was a B+S album in >woolies rather than just another Colour me Badd album. Fopp for one have >often forced me to go to HMV to buy albums. I was forced into Our Price to buy the record in Lancaster. It might as well have been Andy's Records, or HMV, because they are all fundamentally the same. Until just over a year ago, Lancaster had a little independent record shop, which stocked judiciously and interestingly. It had the rather unfortunate name of Ear 'Ere records, but we will put that aside for a moment. It didn't just stock indie music, but a wide range of stuff, including reggae, hip hop, blues and a lot of dance stuff. It carried a lot of vinyl, too. The staff were friendly, and didn't laugh at me once. At least, not to my face. HMV opened in Lancaster, with a more central location, a flashier presentation and the muscle of a national buying organisation behind it. Within a few months of HMV opening, Ear 'Ere was closed. I am fairly sure that these two facts were not unrelated. And hey! Guess what? The range of music available in Lancaster has significantly decreased. The most London-centric thing will be if London is the only place in England where it's possible to find a record shop which stocks out-of -the-way or unusual music. Or where it's possible to develop a kind of working relationship with the staff, where they can get to know you and your tastes, and make recommendations, and stuff. Where the music doesn't necessarily come shrink-wrapped and antiseptic. I am not saying that Ear Ere was any better morally or ethically than other record shops (although in this case I believe it was, because I think it was run on a workers' co-operative basis, but I might be wrong about that). I am just saying that if no-one tries to support little stores, then they will go out of business, and everyone will be that much the poorer. Because places like HMV or Our Price (and Woolies, even more so) are less and less willing to take chances. Maybe I should stop being idealistic and accept that the free market has shown me that the shop that I liked just wasn't strong enough to survive, huh? Fopp may have 'forced' you to go to HMV, Keith. But HMV have forced me to go to HMV, or at least a carbon copy of HMV. And you can go back to Fopp if you want. B&S are nearly in a position where Woolies will be forced to stock the record on the band's (or rather the label's) terms, which would be the ideal as far as I'm concerned. I have no problem with the record getting out to shops like Woolies, (so people without a choice of vendor can get hold of it) but I would have a serious problem with the label being forced into giving stores like Woolies discounts and stuff ahead of the indie stores. But I do think that, given the choice, supporting shops which go off the beaten track is a reasonably good idea. Otherwise independent record stores *won't* exist anymore outside major urban centres. Which will be a shame. Sorry that this letter concentrates on England, and not other parts of the UK and Ireland, or indeed the rest of the world. But I only really know about how it is in England. I'm not saying that only England is important, honestly. I just don't feel qualified to talk about anywhere else. Mail order can be good, too. I am still reeling at the image of young prefect Keith, 'Remain In Light' in hand, cowering from a hilarious verbal barrage from a (clearly drunk) Aidan Arab Strap, and wishing Woolies stocked Talking Heads LPs. Cheers Tim +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Wed Sep 16 16:01:27 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:01:27 -0400 Subject: Sinister: All ages Dates in the US In-Reply-To: <35FF897F.FBB21289@jeepster.co.uk> Message-ID: At 5:48 -04009/16/98, Katrina House wrote: [Hello again, [ [I've just had a chat to Neil about the 18+ Chicago and 19+ Toronto gigs [and he's pretty annoyed, seeing as the band had originally requested [that all the dates be all-ages. [ [So, once the Americans wake up, he'll try to sort something out. It [does look as though the venues have set the age limits ruling out the [promoter + band's wishes. [ [Keeping you posted! :) [ [Cheers, [Katrina. [ well, as far as the chicago show goes i know that the metro is required to make any show that goes later than the chicago curfew (11pm on weekends, i beleive) be 18+. the only thing that can be done about it is to make it an earlier show. it sucks, i know, but there's a state-imposed curfew (each city gets to choose the actual time of the curfew) and chicago and everything within must obey . . . -kerry "if you don't ask me out to dinner i don't eat." -stanley donwood "i'm okay how are you thanks for asking, thanks for asking i hope you're okay, too" -radiohead +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 17:05:38 1998 From: Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com (Anastasia Signoretta) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:05:38 EDT Subject: Sinister: Woolies' chart position Message-ID: re: where you can buy belle and sebastian records in the states. i did buy my copy of 'if you're feeling sinister' in an 'indie' shop (other music in new york city) but my brother purchased his in the virgin megastore, if i'm not mistaken. so you *can* indeed find b+s things in the big stores in the us (virgin even had an import copy of '3.6.9' for a hefty $14). then again, this is new york and not the middle-of-wherever...but then *again*, don't all those chain stores sell the same stuff all over the place anyway? i do think that 'arab strap' will have better distribution now that the band is signed to matador here (a 'big' indie label) and their artists tend to do 'well' in an indie sense-of-the-word. anyhow...i have many thoughts on this and other things, but i am at work now and they do keep me busy here. by the way, my name is anastasia. i joined this list yesterday, on the suggestion of my lovely friend lorraine (hi lorry). there were 40 messages in my 'in' box this morning and only three of them were work-related. i work in new york and live...nearby, hullo to all the nyc listees, especially francisco. oh, and if you read my signature, please don't hold my occupation against me...a girl has to eat. cheers, stasia anastasia signoretta atlantic records international media relations 1290 avenue of the americas 24th floor new york, ny 10104 212.707.2619 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 'we're so disco we can't get on in this world anymore...' suede +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tridophelom at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 16:15:09 1998 From: tridophelom at xxx.com (will grey) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:15:09 PDT Subject: Sinister: Angelic indie stores versus the evil big stores Message-ID: <19980916151509.25300.qmail@hotmail.com> Everyone I know who's worked in one of these shops has >wound up hating it cause they thought they'd be into the music, and they're >essentially into making money. hmmm... yes, some indie stores are certainly run by evil people, but the point is we KNOW giant corporate entities are run by demons... Plus, the reason all you folks in small towns don't have indie stores in the first place is because you keep buying your damn music from KMart, Woolworth's etc... Most mom and pop stores do mailorder... The man is difficult to get around sometimes, but it's certainly worth the effort to know that you're not helping the evil ones completely take over... I am in new york city... In the two years I've been here, the number of indie bookstores has decreased by two thirds (no joke) due to the presence of Barnes and Noble... re: getting b & s out to the widest possible audience... I certainly hope b & s are not attempting to take over the world or anything... they certainly seem to have reached a decent number of folks already, and I would guess that (for the moment, at least) they are in this for the love of creating beautiful things... that's one reason I not only like their music, but respect them as well (as much as you can respect folks you don't really know, anyway)... sigh... and "remain in light" is a great album... record store employees are often big dorks, but at least in an indie store, you have a good chance of being sold stuff by people who actually LIKE music, whether or not they're too cool for the talking heads... and re: someone's previous comment about working for 8 years in a music magazine being the definition of a musical idiot (or some less awkward phrasing): yes... an example being Dave Marsh, editor of the Rolling Stone Music Guide... Fopp and Missing certainly don't hide their >Sting(*) albums in a corner somewhere, they're always there, smacking you >in the face as soon as you enter the place. When I lived in Falkirk, >Woolworths was the only place I was really able to buy records - apart from >Sleeves, which was an "indie" record shop. I didn't like that shop, the guy >once laughed at me for buying "Remain in Light" by Talking Heads. > > Another point is that by confining B+S records to purely indie stores, you >are somewhat just preaching to the converted aren't you? I realise the >intentions are good, but surely it'd be better if there was a B+S album in >woolies rather than just another Colour me Badd album. Fopp for one have >often forced me to go to HMV to buy albums. Last year I decided to upgrade >my copy of Remain in Light (for the second time. 10 years ago in Sleeves I >bought it on tape, 5 years ago I bought it from the great Professor Plastic >second hand for 4 quid) to CD. It was like 14.99 in Fopp, and 11.99 in HMV. >Bastards! I've now bought "Remain in Light" 3 times and the only time I got >laughed at was in the indie shop! Evil bastards! > >Cheers, > Keith. > > >* One of my favourite ever album sleeve pictures is in one of Sting's >recent albums, I think it's called "10 Summoner's Tales", and inside the >booklet, Sting is picture riding a horse playing a Lute, whilst posing in a >"thoughtful" manner > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Wed Sep 16 16:16:46 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:16:46 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: searching for a green light In-Reply-To: <199809161417.PAA21490@brookes.ac.uk> Message-ID: Sometime recently, "the" NME wrote: > BELLE & SEBASTIAN > London Shepherd's Bush Empire > > Shake awake the spirit of John Lennon > and go tell the Good Lord above the > news - a survey by the Norfolk > Evangelical Christian Fellowship has > revealed that Sir Cliff Richard is a > more famous Christian than The Pope and > Mother Theresa... Ho ho, they've even stolen Sir Cliff from us now! Peter, keep feeding them false information, tell them there's a girl scout convention in Hull where they all dress up as that bloke from Spandau Ballet. Anagrams: we went there in March (yes it was all my fault but I had an excuse), but if you want a look, rather than posting more (we're all mature now, the NME said so), go and see posts like: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/hypermail/1998-month-03/0260.html Peter did indeed get the right answer to the person who did the Sarah Speakie bit in Dirty Dream #2, but seeing as he included everyone he's ever drawn naked in his sketchbook he was cheating. No Tim it wasn't me, although I was the comedian Stuart had a dream about. I should disqualify Peter for cheating but I can't be bothered so he wins and can be saucy. The answer was Gerrrrrrard from le desque du mixing. Honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mm_kulik at xxx.EDU Wed Sep 16 16:29:11 1998 From: mm_kulik at xxx.EDU (Mothra) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:29:11 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Re: Grouting, day-glo buses and tootsie roll. Message-ID: rory said: >>Hopefully I'll soon be driving across America in a big fuck-off day-glo >>bus like in The Electric Kool Aid Acid Test, to see the show in >>Philadelphia, (with Lady Penelope following sedately behind in her >>luxuriant pink roller) won't that be exciting! Do any of our American >>cousins know if there are any tickets left for this show? And how far is >>Philly from NY?, I kinda hope it's a long way so'se I can live out all >>those Kerouac fantasies. And just where exactly can I get a tootsie >>roll? >>Oh you guys are so quaint! I love your accent!, say margarine! etc.... i do believe there are some tickets left for the show...i should hope so because i've yet to buy mine...but the phone number for the box office at the trocadero, which is the venue for that show, is 215/922.LIVE, and you have to insert the country code in front of that and all, of course...new york is a good distance from philly, about 3 hours in good traffic, i'd say. you can find tootsie rolls at just about any reputable corner store, grocery, drugstore, or anywhere that sells candy of any sort. tootsie rolls are sassy stuff. i love your accent more... moira ********************************** Moira Kulik Box 906 Franklin & Marshall College P.O. Box 3220 Lancaster, PA 17604-3220 mm_kulik at acad.fandm.edu Music Director, WFNM Franklin & Marshall College Box 90 Lancaster, PA 17604 business line: 717/291.4098 office hours: tues/thurs 2 to 5 pm ********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GRP at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 16:39:31 1998 From: GRP at xxx.com (Glenn Peoples) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:39:31 -0700 Subject: Sinister: watch your tongues Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From Scott_Turner at xxx.COM Wed Sep 16 16:44:34 1998 From: Scott_Turner at xxx.COM (Scott Turner) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:44:34 -0400 Subject: Sinister: philly to new york Message-ID: <85256681.00564CBF.00@JHMAIL.JH.COM> its only 2 hours. Peter Pan Bus lines makes it from philly to nyc in two hours flat just about everytime i've taken it, no matter the traffic conditons (its the fairy express). .scott (now that's a bus!!!) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TWidmer at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 16:53:23 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:53:23 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Sexy like a shy, funny, literate partygoer Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF0328DED6@amerwksnt01.xil.com> SF Weekly has a feature TUBBYWARS/TWATTYBUS feature this week, it's so marvelous and seemingly factually correct that I'm wondering if it's not written by one of our own?? The Sinister list gets a couple of mentions - "*is* Elvis a cat?" - and an interview with Stevie is incorpated into the butt-smoochingly good review. He mentions his own apprehension for using non-Murdoch material on the album (apparently 4 of the songs are not Stuart M's) and how Virgin Atlantic basically stole "Modern Rock Song" to use in their in-flight entertainment ... There are some other interesting bits'n'bobs...oh but I'm spoiling it, you should really read this for yourself. so I urge you to check it out at the link below: http://www.sfweekly.com/1998/current/music1.html tata, Tara belle +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MctaggartR at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 16:39:10 1998 From: MctaggartR at xxx.com (Mctaggart, Robert) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:39:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I'm gonna make love to you woman Message-ID: Dearly Beloved, It's that time of year again, when ponytailed A&R men crawl lift their noses from the Colombian Marching Powder and venture to the frozen tundras of the North, to Manchester, in fact, for the In the City festival. For us residents, this means three days of trotted around the city's bars and clubs watching bands with crap names who assure us "we're going to be massive", and laughing at them. All for free. Sometimes, someone interesting plays. Three years back, I saw four teenagers from Sunderland who wanted to be the Shangri-las. The drummer looked like a bit like me. They were called Kenickie, and I must admit I thought they were ace. I got into a row with one of the ponytails who refused to believe they were 17 (apparently, they were "too clever to be 17"), I told him he'd never been 17 in his life so what did he he know. And for extra effect, I said it in a Noel Coward voice, and turned him into a blubbing wreck. But I digress. Last night we saw The Kings of Convenience, from Bergen, Norway, who I believe some of you have seen doing their thing at Old Mother Trousers' Po Caf. No-one told me they were good though. And they were. They played on the roof, like the Beatles, and wooed the crowd all of a-smile, with natural star quality (Erlend, a dead ringer for Dennis Pennis, did an impromptu impression of Isaac Hayes in "South Park"), and warm and lovely accoustic songs. "Free Design without the girl singer", according to Emma, who knows about things like that. Lord Northy wrote (he's only interested in David and Katrina's "juicy bits" so I can say what I like about him): >the best trax are, in my humble opinion of course, IIWNTC and TBWTAS Trax? IIWNTC and TBWTAS? Is this English? You know Roly Birkin QC, the unintelligible drunken posh old soak on "The Fast Show". That's Northy. >Didn't the DJ look like Fatboy Slim? You what???? In much the same way that Stuart Murdoch looks like Humphrey Cushion on "Hickory House". It's a sad reflection of our times that someone who, in the past, has had a passionate anti-drugs stance should obviously be currently caning it like there's no tomorrow. >gotta go Don't let us keep you. Funkyseb wrote: >Fairly good review of london gig in NME, More drugs, obviously. Seb, in what way was it "good"? "The Spirit of Sarah Records went stadium"? Sneering at "sweet" mugs? "Giving back as little as they can"? Where I come from, that's fighting talk. Oh and Stuart, thanks for all the mentions, but I'm afraid I'm spoken for. Love, Tag xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Scott_Turner at xxx.COM Wed Sep 16 16:57:15 1998 From: Scott_Turner at xxx.COM (Scott Turner) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:57:15 -0400 Subject: Sinister: watch your tongues Message-ID: <85256681.0056F63D.00@JHMAIL.JH.COM> A!M!E!N! Glenn. I hate hearing all this nonsense to about, don't care about who likes them, just listen to the music. That is the biggest crock of shite. the music of b&s is about a marginalized community and you can't extract that from the magic of the music. Honestly, god forbid the mainstream culture appropriates us into their hiddeous dialectic and sandpapers all our poignancy and soft eyes down to another chapter in a Century of Fakers, the way it did to "alternative" music in the 90s. (i would get off the soapbox, now, but the view is really enthralling- would you look at that baldspot- who new?) .scott On 16 September at 15:39 GMT, Glenn Peoples from "Glenn Peoples" at Sep 16, 98 08:39:31 am Message-ID: <11422.199809161558@owl.le.ac.uk> Good grief. I thought opinions like this went out with the eighties? > there seems to be quite a bit of talk about the band's chart positions and > the usual types of comment toward a brilliant underground band, such as > "they should be the biggest band in the world" and "it would be criminal if > they aren't stars after this album." > > if you said or thought either, you are either a liar or a fool. can you > imagine never again seeing b&s in an intimate setting? would you like to > show up to one of those arena shows and have a bunch of fucking > rookie third eye blind (or the u.k. equivilent) fans standing next to you. Translation: I preferred their earlier stuff. I liked them before they were famous. Everybody look at me, i am BETTER THAN YOU and need to shout it constantly to reassure mys elf against the continuing knowledge of my own inadequacy. > know tons of people who would never go see b&s in a venue larger than > 1,500. they don't want to share their bands with others, they don't want > to think they have the same musical tastes as the average music > consumer, Translation: Rather than find something to like about myself, i prefer to find things to disike in everybody else. I sneer at whatever is possible, and thus miss out on 90% of the Good Things In Life. I probably think the Beatles are overrated too, and if i could just find some nice net curtains i would become a full-on GOTH. > and they live for being insider trendies who are one step > ahead of the masses. Mr Pot. Meet Mr Kettle. > same goes for most of the people on this list. don't wish for too much > success for b&s lest you have to let your 11-year-old sister borrow your > new CD. would you still be a fan after that brutal experience? Translation: The two things i fear most are young people and women. Sorry to be harsh kids, but FOR HEAVENS SAKE, if the trials of Britpop achieved nothing else, surely they allowed us to leave this kind of nonsense behind? I think B&S are GRATE, i spend HOURS berating other people and forcing them to listen to it because i happen to LIKE other people and want to introduce them to good things. If lots of people like the same things as me i think of that as a GOOD thing. If a band i like does well, that means they get to be ON THE RADIO more often, get to appear in MAGAZINES more often, get to be ON THE TELLY more often, and get to keep on making records. Cuh! And GOODNESS ME! Cheers, Mark +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tim.groves at xxx.uk Wed Sep 16 16:49:00 1998 From: tim.groves at xxx.uk (Tim Groves) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:49:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: My shepherds bush review Message-ID: Firstly I have never been so drunk at a concert before - but this is what I remember "Union Chapel last year - I missed it - couldn;t get in, tried every contact in the book - I cursed B&S every since for playing at a venue where only record co. lovies can get in. BUT I got my tickets for the empire and my numbers were 0003,0004,0005,0006 which I thought was pretty cool but who got the first two ? I met up with four B&S convertees outside - I arrived by cab and a tout opened the door for me and asked if I had any tickets to sell ! - for christs sake haven't even got out of cab yet - Got in and got my Sinister Tshirt for £15 !!!! there goes my beer money. Luckily my girfriend louise subbed me with beer all night. National Park came on and I am three rows from the front and determined to stay there. I thought they were a bit drab and grey - the songs were all a bit slow and kinda reminded me of Radiohead. Next on Eliot Smith - I have a couple of his lp's so this was a bonus support act for me. By now I was 5 rows back, I am 6ft 1inch but I still couldn't see him - so (drunken heckle number one) I shout STAND UP about 25 times - I should have lent him a guitar strap - I thought he was superb , lovely voice and a good guitar player aswell, that I could hear but not see. Then the wait - I know bands like REM will keep you waiting to increase the suspense but I knew B&S wouldn't do that - I don't mind waiting for bands but I have a pissed morish attitude to cider by now and I REALLY NEED TO GO TO THE TOILET. As we get more and more impatient, people start to push in in front of me. I start to give them some verbals (like pissed blokes do ) - If you are ready this I apologize for my attitude but I had been standing there for about 3 hrs so please don't push in again !! By now people start to boo - this made me angry - but then at last they come on. Stuart looks like he needs feeding and some sunshine - they start with a song I don't know ( why release the lp on the day of the gig !!! ?) - and then I remember the start of stars of track and field and my legs turn to jelly, hearing this song live made me love it more than ever. The quality of the sound hits me- it is awesome, acoustic instruments normally sound shit live but this was an engineering masterpiece. I don't have a set list but I do remember the bwtas and seeing other people, belle and sebastian, dylan in the movies and that's about it. My other drunken heckles were "play the state I am in " but they didn't, my girlfriend was shouting out " Are you gay" - she is very intrigued by gay men and if Stuart is reading this I apologise if you were offended in any way - she just loves gay men. I left feeling great , pissed, and I missed my train , and got a £30 cab fare back to Lewisham , my girlfriend lost her wallet. So altogether a wonderful and pissed evening - I wish they would play there again and I wish I could remember more and I wish I had a bootleg and I wish I had a set list. Tim ps what's with the ref to Rolling Stones bside song titles in the new lp - the song that goes about spider and the fly etc +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tim.groves at xxx.uk Wed Sep 16 17:08:00 1998 From: tim.groves at xxx.uk (Tim Groves) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 17:08:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: watch your tongues Message-ID: All I can say is that REM were, for me the best band ever, they they got BIG and have been shite ever since -as Peter Buck said "play for your heart not for the chart" I can't see B&S ever reaching stadiums - just due to the style of music- I hope they have a great time and make a shit load of money - I just don't want to see them on top of the pops tim Scott_Turner at JH.COM on 16/09/98 16:57:00 To: sinister at majordomo.net cc: (bcc: Tim Groves/Interfocus) Subject: Re: Sinister: watch your tongues Date: Wed, Sep 16, 1998 4:57 PM Subject: Re: Sinister: watch your tongues A!M!E!N! Glenn. I hate hearing all this nonsense to about, don't care about who likes them, just listen to the music. That is the biggest crock of shite. the music of b&s is about a marginalized community and you can't extract that from the magic of the music. Honestly, god forbid the mainstream culture appropriates us into their hiddeous dialectic and sandpapers all our poignancy and soft eyes down to another chapter in a Century of Fakers, the way it did to "alternative" music in the 90s. (i would get off the soapbox, now, but the view is really enthralling- would you look at that baldspot- who new?) .scott On 16 September at 15:39 GMT, Glenn Peoples ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:53:41 +0100 Received: by JHMAIL.JH.COM(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1 (569.2 2-6-1998)) id 85256681.0057A864 ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:57:27 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: J&H @ J&H_AMBASSADOR at JHINET From: "Scott Turner" To: sinister at majordomo.net Message-ID: <85256681.0056F63D.00 at JHMAIL.JH.COM> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:57:15 -0400 Subject: Re: Sinister: watch your tongues Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Reply-To: "Scott Turner" X-List: Sinister ---------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Wed Sep 16 17:23:52 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 17:23:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Woolies' chart position Message-ID: <01BDE196.C6721070@keith@qss.co.uk> Tim... I guess I didn't put that too well as usual, but I'm not suggesting no-one supports local businesses, far from it, they certainly need it (although frankly in 1998 I suspect Woolies needs support just as much) nor that Woolies should get away with forcing a discount, purely with the rather black and white notion that Indie = Good, and Major = Bad. It's a daft generalisation. From what David said it appears that Woolies weren't going to stock it purely on the grounds that they wouldn't get a giant discount, and if that's the terms Jeepster want to deal with then them's the brakes as far as Woolies is concerned. It's just true that in many a place, these are the only stores available. My main problem with this sort of thing is that people do the same as they tend to do with politics and turn every situation into an us versus them situation, casting one side as holier-than-thou and another side as the evil empire - like Darth Vader or Fenella the Witch or something. It doesn't really help. It seems to me pointless arguing the pros and cons, and no I don't accept that everyone who works for a major record company is evil. Not one bit. I don't believe in people actually being evil at all come to that, perhaps misguided is a better word. [Tim I actually thought I'd said most of these things in my mail, and that you'd evilly misquoted me just like the MAN does, but I read it again and it turns out I hadn't. I'd been daydreaming whilst writing it. Never mind... better luck next time :-) by the way, I've got a cracking photo of you pissed up in Glasgow. Looks like that'll have to go on the photos page] Mark wrote : > Good grief. I thought opinions like this went out with the eighties? Yes, hear hear, know what you mean. It's ridiculous that people would want to exclude others from a pleasure they don't yet know about. Seems just incredibly selfish. Thanks Christ most people don't seem to think that way. Even if it does mean a band playing in a larger venue, which is definitely not as good etc.etc.etc. I've seen B+S in numerous small places and I'm glad that despite the London gig being noisier, more full of wankers etc. that at least more people got the chance to see a band they wanted to see. Thanks, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mdinh at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 18:21:15 1998 From: mdinh at xxx.com (Mark Dinh) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:21:15 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Sarah bands Message-ID: <007b01bde196$68e31b20$010510ac@user.lillick.com> Hi, all. I'm a newbie to the list. All I have to say is...phew...this mailing list is busy! Anyhow, does anyone get that Sarah Records vibe from B&S. Every time I throw on IYFS I feel like I'm listening to an old Sarah Records compilation (The Orchids, Sugargliders, et. al) I wonder if these bands have been an influence on B&S. Mark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From garlansw at xxx.uk Wed Sep 16 18:19:34 1998 From: garlansw at xxx.uk (Stephen Garland) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:19:34 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: My trip to Woolies Message-ID: Crumbs, I didn't think my trip to Woolies would start such an ethical debate. But I don't mind helping it on a bit. David K says that to buy from a major store only helps them to dictate what you'll buy next. Surely, buying indie records from major stores will make them stock more indie stuff, which I hope everyone agrees is A Good Thing (except those people who don't want their favourite indie bands to become more successful, of course). So I say boycott the small indie record shops, and go to Virgin and HMV like the rest of us. Stevie G. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tridophelom at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 18:25:25 1998 From: tridophelom at xxx.com (will grey) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:25:25 PDT Subject: Sinister: Woolies' chart position Message-ID: <19980916172525.22580.qmail@hotmail.com> > It seems to me >pointless arguing the pros and cons, and no I don't accept that everyone >who works for a major record company is evil. Not one bit. I don't believe >in people actually being evil at all come to that, perhaps misguided is a >better word. my own mail was a bit confusing as well, but i would like to make one more small point: while the individuals working in giant corporate entities may very well be misguided rather than evil, i feel safe in saying that virtually all corporations are evil entities. once a company gets fairly sizeable, it begins to act pretty darned darth vaderish, aggressively destroying smaller companies, using their vast amounts of money to invest in similar darth vaderish companies, shipping out work to countries where you are allowed to pay employees absurdly low wages and often literally work them to death... it's a scary world we live in, and their most certainly is a point in talking about such things... i use the term "the man" to make fun of my self just a little bit, but i really do, at the same time believe everything i say... buying your b&s album at a giant chain may seem fairly innocuous and it IS to a certain degree, but on the other hand, living your life in such a way that you are constantly giving your cash to DARTH VADER is a genuinely bad thing to do. i'm not calling any individuals evil (tho, i've met my share of folks who, whether evil or not, are certainly causing many others great pain on a regular basis), but these vast corporate entities act as EVIL INDIVIDUALS with no morality whatsoever. For some reason, in the 90's you are allowed to excuse immoral behavior, by calling it "good business". what happened to ideals, anyhow? i'm not so naive that i think my ideals will ever be fully realized, but ideals are things to be strived for, not necessarily to be reached... sorry, i know you weren't responding to me specifically, but i certainly do feel like i am part of a significant us vs. them battle, and i have seen corporations make my individual world significantly less enjoyable on a regular basis... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 18:27:13 1998 From: Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com (Jim Schmidt) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 98 10:27:13 MST Subject: Sinister: excellent B&S article Message-ID: <9808169059.AA905967070@mail.newtimes.com> hey, our paper picked up a great B&S article...you can read it on our website-- www.sfweekly.com/1998/current/music1.html enjoy. jim +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From arossigneux at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 18:38:19 1998 From: arossigneux at xxx.com (Aude Horeau-Rossigneux) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:38:19 PDT Subject: Sinister: Incredible! Message-ID: <19980916173819.22699.qmail@hotmail.com> It's really incredible. I didn't think I'd have so many messages : more than 88 today, and it was may first day... I don't have enough time to read everything, but please go on, I like it! You can write in English, German, Italian, or French, of course! I hope to read your messages soon, even if I don't have much time to answer everyday. Kisses to everyone Aude ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 19:06:14 1998 From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 19:06:14 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Woolies' chart position Message-ID: <006f01bde19c$b16a6690$4429c22b@bond.broadcast> >my own mail was a bit confusing as well, but i would like to make one >more small point: while the individuals working in giant corporate >entities may very well be misguided rather than evil, i feel safe in >saying that virtually all corporations are evil entities. once a >company gets fairly sizeable, it begins to act pretty darned darth >vaderish, aggressively destroying smaller companies, using their vast >amounts of money to invest in similar darth vaderish companies, shipping >out work to countries where you are allowed to pay employees absurdly >low wages and often literally work them to death... um... eh... I feel I should point out that not all giant corporate entities are evil, darth vaderish entities. Some invent quite cool and useful things, such as the Walkman, the CD, MD, and even though the have record labels, are so un-evil that they only sign middle-of-the-road dirge, like Celine Dion and Jamiriquai...ah...I'm kinda defeating my own argument here. Michael, Sticking up for the MAN 'cause he's met him and he was quite nice actually. Oh, and I think the notion of Stuart and co. coming to London and 'torching a few huts and stealing a goose' sounded bizarrely plausible _________________________________________________ Michael Barrett, Broadcast R & D, Advanced Technology Division, SONY Broadcast & Professional, Basingstoke, Hampshire, RG22 4SB, England. E-mail: Michael.Barrett at adv.sonybpe.com Tel: +44 (0)1256 483501, Fax: +44 (0)1256 810950 "On a 9 to 5 lemon, looking for the lime" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tridophelom at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 19:44:26 1998 From: tridophelom at xxx.com (will grey) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:44:26 PDT Subject: Sinister: ok, ok... Message-ID: <199809161844.LAA16323@f282.hotmail.com> all right... i'll lay off the politics, as this appears to be a very quick way to make enemies (as the love letters to walmart/aspursions to my moral character in my mailbox will attest to)... gosh, some of this stuff really hurts my feelings... i promise i'm a nice guy and not an elitist snob... ok... here is a 100% non-political question: does anyone know anything about "the acid house"? like what is it about? who did it? etc? etc? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From raysh at xxx.edu Wed Sep 16 19:49:52 1998 From: raysh at xxx.edu (Reshma Patel) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:49:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: b&s dance party for boston Message-ID: we are throwing a party- elly, kristi and i. ever since we recieved our very own copy of _the boy with the arab strap_, it's been all-night dance contests at our flat. so now we'd like to invite you to get giddy and high, and jump on beds while balancing mixed coctails and singing 'sleep the clock around' backwards with us. wow, run-on. the good times start at 9pm on saturday the 19th. its not too fancy, unless you want it to be. and you won'thave to dance until you're tipsy enough. really we're just attempting to fill the gaps between now and october 21. here's the address- 1325 commonwealth ave #31, allston. its off the b line at the griggs st/ long ave stop. you can email me privately for more details. bye. see ya saturday, reshma +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Scott_Turner at xxx.COM Wed Sep 16 19:56:24 1998 From: Scott_Turner at xxx.COM (Scott Turner) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:56:24 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Woolies' chart position Message-ID: <85256681.0067BA4A.00@JHMAIL.JH.COM> On 16 September at 18:06 GMT, "Michael" Whilest basking in the obvious glory of winning the great Sinister fantasy set list thing can I just stick my head above the trench & make a plea. Please people spare a thought for I'm hoping the many amongst us who make strange growly sounds everytime we return from gainful employment log on & find a huge amount of Sinister mail that includes several posts FROM THE SAME PEOPLE posted a few hours or MINUTES apart. Take note of the sexy Mr P Millers post from earlier today where he combined several replies INTO ONE. If I was receiving say 65 mails from 65 different people I'd be a happy bunny but the current situation is making me a slightly grumpy one even if I have just seen a pig on TV singing "Staying Alive" Thank you & goodnight steve x "Pain and beauty, our constant bedfellows" Sabine Strohem steve at seahorses.demon.co.uk Red Roses For Me Fanzine http://surf.to/redroses +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kimpostor at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 20:47:08 1998 From: kimpostor at xxx.com (Kimberly Forrette) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:47:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: lionel richie is not dead, that's just a rumor Message-ID: <19980916194708.28213.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com> i think that we should all share how many copies we've made of B*S albums, ep's, singles -- how many people we've infected with this pleasant virus. i've got twelve, i think. 90-minute masterpieces of IYFS and all the summer 97 EP's. and all my converts are growing in their dedication. i went into a curiosity shop in SF a few weeks ago and they had a bin full of old name-tag patches that had come off various gas station/wal-mart/greasy spoon diner uniforms and they had one that said "judy". so i am going to pin it to my clothes for the upcoming gigs to pay homage to one of my most favoritest songs ever. ooh and NY and Philly kids -- do let's not forget about a meeting place before/after these shows. i'm not from there, so could someone offer up some suggestions? easy like sunday morning, kim ps. what is on isobel's (i assume it's isobel) face in that photo in the liner notes of TWATTY? it gives me the shakes. but she's just precious, isn't she? _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gaviston at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 20:51:12 1998 From: gaviston at xxx.com (Todd Beatty) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:51:12 PDT Subject: Sinister: ok, ok... Message-ID: <19980916195113.11260.qmail@hotmail.com> will grey wrote: "ok... here is a 100% non-political question: does anyone know anything about "the acid house"? like what is it about? who did it? etc? etc?" i had the same question will, i tried to scope out the internet to see if i could find anything about it. i did. and that is this: Acid House is something that has about 50 million websights that have absolutely NOTHING to do with B&S, and were most likely built by Johnny AFTER he went electronic. oh yeah, i also found out that its a book by Irvine Welsh, author of such as "Trainspotting", and "Ecstasy", and is soon to be released as a movie (though i didn't find out when or any other specifics). yeah, so much for enlightening you love, todd (who leaves you no better off than you were before) beatty ______________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jlphilli at xxx.edu Wed Sep 16 21:05:30 1998 From: jlphilli at xxx.edu (Jennifer Phillips-Bacher) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:05:30 -0500 Subject: Sinister: The Gate, The Gate, my Kingdom for The Gate Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980916150527.00692720@students.wisc.edu> Hello cardie-wearing lovelies, Does anyone have any idea what happened to "The Gate", sung by the pedal-pusher-wearing chanteuse? > >Adding to the "unreleased songs" list: >> 1. London Has Let Me Down Again. >> 2. Hurleys Having Dreams. >> 3. Pocket-Book Angel. >> 4. The Loneliness Of A Middle Distance Runner. >> 5. Tigermilk (instrumental). >> 6. Modern Rock Song. >> 7. Slow Graffiti. >> 8. Rhoda. >> 9. Wrong Love. >> 10. I Know Where The Summer Goes. > nibble nibble, Jennifer +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jeni_Morton at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 22:24:45 1998 From: Jeni_Morton at xxx.com (Jeni Morton) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:24:45 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Sound Scan info..... Message-ID: <00055E03.4155@rhinorecords.com> I was pulling Sound Scan #'s today, (because , well that's part of what I do here at Rhino Records) and looked at TBWTAS, and this week's total is: 5,446 pieces! I found it quite exciting, but then again, things like good sound scan numbers and Japanese curry lunch with Beth make me smile...... Cheers, Jeni ;) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From arossigneux at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 22:40:04 1998 From: arossigneux at xxx.com (Aude Horeau-Rossigneux) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:40:04 PDT Subject: Sinister: A hearfelt plea from lil ol me Message-ID: <19980916214004.9794.qmail@hotmail.com> Steve wrote : >I have just seen a pig on TV singing "Staying Alive" Well, please tell us something : what channel do you watch? I'm very interessed in watching pigs singing, you're a lucky guy : we don't have such programms on french TV! Bye, and good night to everyone. I'm going to sleep soon cause I'm very tired. Tomorow, I'll try to write a little more... and better! Kisses Aude ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ihamilt at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 23:01:25 1998 From: Ihamilt at xxx.com (Ihamilt at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:01:25 EDT Subject: Sinister: Singing Pigs Message-ID: <4207a33b.36003535@aol.com> Aude wrote >I'm very interessed in watching pigs singing Its very easy to see singing pigs - jsut buy and Kula Shaker video +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TFertig3 at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 23:00:42 1998 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:00:42 EDT Subject: Sinister: spaceboy lyrics Message-ID: Since I'm too lazy to study for my Chemistry exam, I'll post the Space Boy Dream lyrics as I hear them, hopefully nobody else has already. I dreamt I had to go to Mars I'm always getting on about going to Mars through the day but faced with the reality of it in a dream, I was terrified And it wasn't going to be like a moon(?) trip There were three of us going but we couldn't all go in the same ship We had to go one at a time, one day between us; I had to go first And it was the thought of passing through all that black space, all the darkness with nothing in it And then being the first one to land there, all alone I knew it was supposed to be all dark around with just a red surface, But what if I got there and it was light, all civilized and populated and stuff? So I made a plan! -- The other two astronauts were going to be my dad and my sister And my dad would come first after me So I decided when I landed I would stay in my seat until he got there and then we'd both get out together and have a look around and see what sort of things were there. -- And when I woke up and I was lying in the darkness I thought I had landed and I just lay still for awhile, waiting for my dad to get there, too. Sorry for any mistakes I've made. I think the Looper version is loads better, but this one's good too. Wow, there's about 200 more people on this list than when I first subscribed, and my mailbox is overloading.. Oh well, better go study my chemicals love Tami +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Julie_Smith at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 23:18:29 1998 From: Julie_Smith at xxx.com (Julie_Smith at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Wondering Message-ID: <01J1VTR2LT8Y8XVFPS@NOTELT.MED.IACNET.COM> I'm having a lazy day at work today (shh!) so I tried to figure out the lyrics to Spaceboy's Dream too. I think I got most of them, but that line near the beginning which goes, "And it wasn't going to be like a ------ trip" is driving me crazy. Somebody please help me figure out what that missing word is. In a eight hour stretch of mind-numbingly boring work, little things like this become really important! Any ideas? Julie (disgruntled worker number #17) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wjessica at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 23:46:15 1998 From: wjessica at xxx.com (Jessica Noelani Wright) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:46:15 -0700 Subject: Sinister: sinister: US Message-ID: anyone know if there might be a show in DC? otherwise, i'll dutifully make a trip up to my hometown of NYC. also, i stand corrected. i shouldn't want b&s to be too popular in the states. i would, however like to share the beauty. and i would love for others to appreciate what i so love. you know? and please, no one bash "ease your feet off in the sea". it's one of my favorites, reminiscent of "get me away, i'm dying". it's beautiful. -jess Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Wed Sep 16 23:52:45 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:52:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: ok, so who wants a spanking? Message-ID: allright, i'm not called megan-the-sweet-natured-one for nothing. i've been docile about opening my email and reading, hi, do you like (instert the smiths, a sarah band, etc.)? they sound just like b&s. well, we've been through that, and my advice is to *please* read the archives. and by the way, read the faq too!!!! we've also done nearly everything you can think of, including sleaze quizes (archive!) and truth or dare (archive!) so go there. god, if that doesn't get people going, dunno what will. you can search by topic or authors. and this message will keep the notoriously grumpy ones off your back (*ahem*) though i'm heading that direction myself. oh, and for the glut of new chatters, if you want to know who is in the chat room without going in, do a /who #sinister command. that way, i won't be cursing at you behind your backs. ;) so anyway, i should say soemthing else. well, i'm in love with stuart murdoch again, though despite beth's admonitions, i'm in love with chris too. what to do? oh, i hope a certain other person isn't reading this.... ;x xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From heinitz at xxx.net Thu Sep 17 00:30:41 1998 From: heinitz at xxx.net (Heinitz) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 98 23:30:41 GMT Subject: Sinister: a space boy dream Message-ID: <980916233041.n0001380.heinitz@mail.clara.net> this is what i heard: "I dreamt i had to go to Mars. I'm always kidding on about going to Mars for the day, but faced with the reality of it, in a dream, i was terrified. And it wasn't going to be like a moon trip - there was three of us going, but we couldn't all go on the same ship; we had to go one at a time with a day between us. I had to go first, and it was the thought of passing through all that black space, all the darkness with nothing in it, and then being the first one to land there, all alone... I knew it was supposed to be all dark around, with just a red surface, but what if I got there and it was light, all civilised and populated and stuff? So I made a plan. The other astronauts were going to be my dad and my sister, and my dad would come first after me, so i decided when i landed i would just stay in my seat until he got there, and then we could get out together and have a look around and see what sort of things were there. And when I woke up and I was lying in the darkness, I thought I had landed. And I just lay still for a while, waiting for my dad to get there too." ------------- i wasn't sure about punctuation... i'm never sure about punctuation. but i'm pretty sure that they were the words. abi, who only missed five minutes of alternative nation... and didn't see the video +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jeni_Morton at xxx.com Wed Sep 16 23:56:18 1998 From: Jeni_Morton at xxx.com (Jeni Morton) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:56:18 -0700 Subject: Sinister: sinister: US Message-ID: <00055E90.4155@rhinorecords.com> There is a show on Oct 30th at the Black Cat....... Cheers- Jeni _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: Sinister: sinister: US From: "Jessica Noelani Wright" at Internet Date: 09/16/98 3:46 PM anyone know if there might be a show in DC? otherwise, i'll dutifully make a trip up to my hometown of NYC. also, i stand corrected. i shouldn't want b&s to be too popular in the states. i would, however like to share the beauty. and i would love for others to appreciate what i so love. you know? and please, no one bash "ease your feet off in the sea". it's one of my favorites, reminiscent of "get me away, i'm dying". it's beautiful. -jess Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sweaters at xxx.net Wed Sep 16 20:31:24 1998 From: sweaters at xxx.net (Butch Sweaters) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 19:31:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: New Yorker illustration Message-ID: <199809162329.TAA00683@postoffice.dca.net> If anyone's interested in seeing the illustration of B&S that appeared in last week's New Yorker, Butch Sweaters has posted it at: http://www.dca.net/~sweaters/. There's also a link to an interesting Web site there (ok...it's mine). Love love love- Butch Sweaters himself p.s: CLAM DIGGERS, PEDAL PUSHERS AND CAPRI PANTS ARE TOTALLY TOUGH! I'm sure she looked stunning in them. Worth a look: http://www.dca.net/~sweaters/. Worth a look: http://www.dca.net/~sweaters/. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erinlew at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 03:01:48 1998 From: erinlew at xxx.com (Erin Lewis) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 19:01:48 PDT Subject: Sinister: I like New York in June, er...September I mean Message-ID: <19980917020149.24929.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey kids, Richard asked me to post this to you, so here goes: >Dear list: > >Speaking to you from the grave (so to speak) as I am not on the list >anymore, due to the cruel hand of dame unemployment. I have a quick >question that Erin is very kindly posting on my behalf. > >I'm taking a train to Chicago from L.A. tomorrow, and thence to New >York. Can anyone suggest how a wide eyed foreigner might best spend >28 hours in Chicago or a week in New York? Films, clubs, etcetera? I >don't suppose blind chance has me coinciding with any B&S activity? > >Please email me at harrypalmer66 at hotmail.com if you have any >suggestions, excluding "go fly a kite." > >Thank you all, and perhaps I will see some of you over the next few >weeks. > >Richard > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aaronm at xxx.edu Thu Sep 17 03:02:05 1998 From: aaronm at xxx.edu (Aaron Madrigal) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 19:02:05 -0700 Subject: Sinister: San Francisco show? Message-ID: <2.2.32.19980917020205.007511ac@uclink4.Berkeley.edu> I'm sorry if it's already been said, but are B&S playing in San Francisco or anywhere in the bay area? I'll throw a fit if they aren't. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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URL: From marks at xxx.uk Thu Sep 17 09:20:44 1998 From: marks at xxx.uk (Mark Simpson) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:20:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Space Boy Dream lyrics In-Reply-To: <199809161739.SAA01284@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000001bde214$10b71860$1700a8c0@pc25.savant.co.uk> Hi everyone, Well, I'm one of the hordes of newbies who signed up to the list in the last couple of weeks. And very fantastic the new album is too. Anyway, as a sacrificial offering to buy everyone's friendship, I worked out the lyrics to Space Boy Dream last night. It didn't take as long as I thought - only about 20 minutes (for a song less than 2 mins long!). To the bloke from Lancaster - I know what you mean. I grew up there, and the summer I came back from university to find "Closing Down" posters in the window of the greatest record shop in the world, Ear Ere, was a very sad one. Still, life goes on. So, here they are: I dreamt I had to go up Mars. IÂ’m always kidding on about going to Mars through the day but faced with the reality of it, in a dream, I was terrified. And it wasnÂ’t going to be like a mini trip. There was three of us going, but we couldnÂ’t all go into the same ship, we had to go one at a time, with a day between us. I had to go first, and it was the thought of passing through all that black space, all the darkness with nothing in it, and then being the first one to land there, all alone. I knew it was supposed to be all dark around, with just a red surface, but what if I got there and it was light, all civilised and populated and stuff. So I made a plan. The other two astronauts were going to be my guiding assistant. My dad would come first after me, so I decided when I landed that I would just stay in my seat until he got there, and we could both get out together, and look around and see what sort of things were there. And when I woke up, and I was lying there in the darkness, I thought I had landed, and I just lay still for a while, waiting for my dad to get there too. (Funky instrumental to end) I'm pretty confident that these are right. One questionable is "like a mini trip". I think he says "min' trip", running the two words together. Also, "guiding assistant" doesn't really seem right, but I'm pretty sure that's what he says. Cheers Mark +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aevans at xxx.uk Thu Sep 17 09:38:26 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:38:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: watch your tongues Message-ID: <01BDE21E.EF665800@pc07628> Glenn People (The name holds a certain irony) wrote : >there seems to be quite a bit of talk about the band's chart positions and >the usual types of comment toward a brilliant underground band, such as >"they should be the biggest band in the world" and "it would be criminal if >they aren't stars after this album." >if you said or thought either, you are either a liar or a fool. I guess that makes me and many other liars and fools...thankyou :( >can you imagine never again seeing b&s in an intimate setting? would you like to >show up to one of those arena shows and have a bunch of fucking >rookie third eye blind (or the u.k. equivilent) fans standing next to you. Ah...that would be the Empire then. >i know tons of people who would never go see b&s in a venue larger than >1,500. Ah...that would be the Empire then. Ooops 2,000+ liars and fools there. >they don't want to share their bands with others, they don't want >to think they have the same musical tastes as the average music >consumer, and they live for being insider trendies who are one step >ahead of the masses. in all honesty, i can't say i'm that much different >from them (though i would brave the fair-weather fans and go to an >arena show if need be). That's the biggest load of self-important twaddle I've heard in my life. I didn't believe people like you really existed until now. And what's your typical fair-weather B&S fan like then ? I don't follow this. Maybe it's someone who doesn't own an original copy of Tigermilk. >same goes for most of the people on this list. *Glenn People......He Speaks for the People* ;) Sorry not a personal stab, you're entitled to your opinion. >don't wish for too much success for b&s lest you have to let your 11-year-old >sister borrow your new CD. would you still be a fan after that brutal experience? >or would you revert to the classic i-was-here-before-you comment, "well, it's not >as good as their old stuff"? I wish B&S all the success the choose to grab...and if they chose to sell out and they went a bit crabby I might well switch my loyalties, but I'm sure I'd still buy their music. The bigger they get, the more likely they are to visit a smaller venue near you, rather than doing a few shows a year concentrated on major cities. And if my 11 year old sister wanted to listen to any of my cd's she's more than welcome, only my 11 year old sister is a 28 year old brother who fucking hates my taste in music :) Tim Groves wrote : >"play for your heart not for the chart" >I just don't want to see them on top of the pops Don't watch it then :) Tag wrote : >>Fairly good review of london gig in NME, >More drugs, obviously. Seb, in what way was it "good"? "The Spirit of >Sarah Records went stadium"? Sneering at "sweet" mugs? "Giving back as >little as they can"? Where I come from, that's fighting talk. A little unfair perhaps Robert ? Did you ever expect them exalt B&S as the new Gods in popular music ? Just cos the review wasn't overly kind, doesn't mean there wasn't an element of truth about it. God, you've all gone and got me off to a bad start to the day. Best do some work. Adrian. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cleonard at xxx.COM Thu Sep 17 10:20:33 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:20:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Crudeness Ahoy - I warn you Message-ID: Thanks to everyone who wrote down the words to the spaceboy dream. Did anyone notice Loopy Stuart's lyric changes in the London gig? Of course, I did. Luckily I am a fast writer, and I caught the lot. Spaceboy Pish I dreamt I had to go to pish. I'm always kidding on about going to pish through the day but faced with the reality of it, in a dream, I was terrified. And it wasn't going to be like a mini pish. There was three of us going, but we couldn't all go into the same bog, we had to go one at a time, with a day between us. I had to go first, and it was the thought of pishing through all that black space, all the darkness with nothing in it, and then being the first one to pish there, all alone. I knew it was supposed to be all dark around, with just a bog, but what if I got there and it was light, all civilised and populated and stuff. So I made a plan. The other two pishers were going to be my pish assistant. My dad would come first after me, so I decided when I pished that I would just stay in my seat until he got there, and we could both pish together, and look around and see what sort of pish was there. And when I woke up, and I was lying there in the darkness, I thought I had pished, and I just lay still for a while, waiting for my dad to get there too. Forgive me, chrishmush +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From richard.connell at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 12:00:43 1998 From: richard.connell at xxx.com (Richard Connell) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:00:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Space Boy Dream lyrics In-Reply-To: <000001bde214$10b71860$1700a8c0@pc25.savant.co.uk> Message-ID: <0443001117091998/A31753/ADVAX1/11C98AC02900*@MHS> Someone wrote (in thew lyrics to spacesongthing): >The other two astronauts were going to be my guiding assistant. >My dad would come first after me, so I decided when I landed >that I would just stay in my seat until he got there, and we I'm pretty sure that 'my guiding assistant' is 'my dad and my sister'. Then again, could be wrong. Who cares, the band's shite anyway. Rich ps by 'the band' i meant chumbawamba +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 11:05:20 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 06:05:20 EDT Subject: Sinister: I'm going to Hastings today! Message-ID: some damnfool wrote: >don't wish for too much success for b&s lest you have to let your = 11-year-old >sister borrow your new CD. would you still be a fan after = that brutal experience? >or would you revert to the classic = i-was-here-before-you comment, "well, it's not >as good as their old stuff"? Is this a wind up? Go on Suzannah, admit it. Look if this is real, I should point out that this is exactly what most of the list have been doing for the past year. I, for one, take sinister everywhere, and play it to everyone I can find, which includes my mum, my younger cousins (I'm an only child, but hey!, can't you tell?) friends, people in pubs and on buses, and on occasion, my headmaster. (who thought it was rather good and sounded like simon et garfunkel). I carpeted my actress friend's doorstep with twattybus (thats the lp, kids) flyers, just so she'd buy it too. I've heard fans complaining when other people 'steal' 'their' bands- but it is usually the old fans who complain, not the new ones. I'll risk being the voice of reason by saying that most of us on the list would like to see B+S successful, solvent, and remembered in 20 years time by more than just a bunch of saddo record obsessives. But then i only listen to B+S so that I look pale and interesting. The music's a load of lovey dovey crap. anyway, sorry honey, that was a bit flamy. I just don't want the list to turn into one of those insular, indie-shmindie wankfests, like others I won't name. off to the sea side! seb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grabutcho at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 11:10:44 1998 From: grabutcho at xxx.com (Julien Boeldieu) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 03:10:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Libérez Florence Rey ! Message-ID: <19980917101044.4731.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> Hello everyone ! Aaaaaaaaaaaaah ! Yesterday... Good day, sunshine. All my troubles seemed so far away. No rain at all. You think something like : "Wake up it's a beautiful morning Feel the sun shining for your eyes (...) so WAKE UP BOO ! There's so many thing for us to do" :) and then you realize that today you have to wait at home for a man from the electricity company to come. And of course he came at 18 o'clock. :( Yesterday I listened to "If you're feeling sinister" for the first time since the middle of august. And I felt very strange. Each songs gave me such thrills... I never felt like that, except when I'm in the arm of a certain girl I know (elle se reconna�tra). Especially "Fox in the snow". I was almost asleep and I had strange hallucinations. I felt so close to the band... I really believed they were playing live in my room and that Stuart was whispering in my ears. And the way he sings "You're going up, you're going down / You're going nowhere" made me laugh. It feels as if he's chewing bubble-gum. "Stars of track and field" and "Seeing other people" are really exceptionnal, blazing songs. Well... I really LOVE TWATTYBUS (by the way, have you noticed that they were less piano on it ?). Believe me. I don't want to make any silly and meaningless comparisons, but "If you're feeling sinister" is untouchable. ****************************** Private joke. "Oh I'll settle down with some old story About a boy who's just like me Thought there was love in everything and everyone You're so naive !" (Get me away from here, I'm dying). Chers Belle and Sebastian, comment faites-vous pour �crire des paroles aussi pertinentes sur une musique aussi g�niale ? ;) ****************************** All my thoughts go today to Florence Rey, who is being killed in some french jails and whose trial is beginning today. Here, in France, when a cop kills someone (especially if the victim is black), he's acquitted and set free. When a 18 years old girl kills some cops, she has to die in jail in inhuman conditions. :( As we say here : "Police everywhere, justice nowhere". "Ooh ! Get me away from here I'm dying Play me a song to set me free"... If only that was so simple... Kisses to everyone, Love to the sweet Jonny (I'll drink some good Burgundy, thinking of you, silly boy) ;), **Megan**, Julie and Aude, Julien, sometimes very angry. PS : je sais bien que la liste n'est absolument pas faite pour �a mais j'en profite pour signaler aux listees parisiens qu'une manif anti-FN partira ce samedi de R�publique � 14 heures. Et apr�s, on ira guincher follement sur de la musique de jeunes � Nation. D'ailleurs, si �a pouvait �tre l'occasion de rencontrer quelques-uns d'entre vous... Contactez-moi sur mon e-mail. == "Je ne remets jamais � demain ce que je peux faire le surlendemain" ** Alphonse Allais ** _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tim.groves at xxx.uk Thu Sep 17 11:12:00 1998 From: tim.groves at xxx.uk (Tim Groves) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:12:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I'm going to Hastings today! Message-ID: hastings is the most miserable place I have ever been to (except for Prestatyn) it is also the suicide capital of the UK watch your step tim +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steve at xxx.uk Thu Sep 17 12:17:02 1998 From: steve at xxx.uk (Steve Genge) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 12:17:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Shepherds Bush pics Message-ID: Before I forget the pig singing "Staying Alive" wasn't a real pig it was an animated one advertising something, not sure what as I was too captivated by the pig to pay any attention to the product. Anyway, now sitting proudly amongst other stuff on the red roses for me webpages are some Belle & Sebastian pics taken at the Shepherds Bush show for you to point at & say "I didn't realise Stuart was so blurry" Also whilest there you can take in fellow Sinister listee Megan's musings on Arab Strap complete with pictures of grown men waving hankies at each other. All this & more can be found at: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Cabaret/9043/ steve "Pain and beauty, our constant bedfellows" Sabine Strohem steve at seahorses.demon.co.uk Red Roses For Me Fanzine http://surf.to/redroses +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Fri Sep 18 15:05:22 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:05:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Squash pigs and music snobs ( and a really bad pun) Message-ID: <199809171411.PAA01816@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Hi ya all, I thought that it was my turn to add something to the arguement of the day, the advert of the day, the anti woolies campaign, and a new eagle/seagull twist; 1. I want to see B&S on TOTP, they want to be on TOTP ( just see the mini interview with Stevie in Select magazine beside the review). It will show everyone that I know, that I was right. I walked into college with IYFS on the day of release and put it on the common room stereo, and then it was promptly taken off and replaced by some "homie" (aka ganster rap) toss. They just didn't get it. Dog on wheels didn't work with them either. However it did convert my Grandparents, who thought it was lovely, and my grandmother then lost the plot a bit when she decided that it was the original music to the tv series. Lazy Jane started to work. They actually heard it on Radio 1, and realised I was a one man cult. And with 369 people really started to listen. La pastie had everyone in the room moving! Even my friends who like only dance music were impressed. And it entered the charts! B&S will always be "my" band, but I'm happy trying to spread the word to the deaf. So please stop being such boring museo snobs, be happy that you were there first, but also be happy that the band are reaching more people 2. On a much lighter note the pig was advertising Colemans mustard. And what is even funnier than this puppet pig singing, is the ending. It gets squashed by a giant jar of the stuff! 3. When are the 4 tracks that Isobel played on the Treehouse going to come out? 4. If Woolies won't take the same discount deals on the album as the other stores then Jeepster and those connected to the distribution of the record are right not to give into them. The only town I know of that Woolies is the only place to sell records, is Bexhill and everyone there is on death's doorstep. If need be, use mail order or the internet. Would you love me as a beagle, Would you love me till I'm dead Or is there someone else instead. (sorry had to try and end with a joke) Jake Ps My 15 year old sister hates all 3 albums so we are safe for now! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Fri Sep 18 15:05:22 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:05:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Squash pigs and music snobs ( and a really bad pun) Message-ID: <199809171411.PAA01827@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Hi ya all, I thought that it was my turn to add something to the arguement of the day, the advert of the day, the anti woolies campaign, and a new eagle/seagull twist; 1. I want to see B&S on TOTP, they want to be on TOTP ( just see the mini interview with Stevie in Select magazine beside the review). It will show everyone that I know, that I was right. I walked into college with IYFS on the day of release and put it on the common room stereo, and then it was promptly taken off and replaced by some "homie" (aka ganster rap) toss. They just didn't get it. Dog on wheels didn't work with them either. However it did convert my Grandparents, who thought it was lovely, and my grandmother then lost the plot a bit when she decided that it was the original music to the tv series. Lazy Jane started to work. They actually heard it on Radio 1, and realised I was a one man cult. And with 369 people really started to listen. La pastie had everyone in the room moving! Even my friends who like only dance music were impressed. And it entered the charts! B&S will always be "my" band, but I'm happy trying to spread the word to the deaf. So please stop being such boring museo snobs, be happy that you were there first, but also be happy that the band are reaching more people 2. On a much lighter note the pig was advertising Colemans mustard. And what is even funnier than this puppet pig singing, is the ending. It gets squashed by a giant jar of the stuff! 3. When are the 4 tracks that Isobel played on the Treehouse going to come out? 4. If Woolies won't take the same discount deals on the album as the other stores then Jeepster and those connected to the distribution of the record are right not to give into them. The only town I know of that Woolies is the only place to sell records, is Bexhill and everyone there is on death's doorstep. If need be, use mail order or the internet. Would you love me as a beagle, Would you love me till I'm dead Or is there someone else instead. (sorry had to try and end with a joke) Jake Ps My 15 year old sister hates all 3 albums so we are safe for now! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Thu Sep 17 15:08:58 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:08:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: My trip to Woolies References: Message-ID: <360117FA.1FC32A7C@jeepster.co.uk> Stephen Garland wrote: > > Crumbs, I didn't think my trip to Woolies would start such an ethical > debate. But I don't mind helping it on a bit. neither do i, i feel somewhat to be a devils advocate, except we're all agreeing on the same thing which is unnerving ;) > David K says that to buy from a major store only helps them to dictate > what you'll buy next. Surely, buying indie records from major stores will > make them stock more indie stuff, which I hope everyone agrees is A Good > Thing (except those people who don't want their favourite indie bands to > become more successful, of course). what i meant was that the large chains and corporates would eventually stock what they perceived to be 'indie' in a ploy to get money. they would only buy records in which they felt they were guaranteed a quick and healthy return on. the major difference between that and a real 'indie' store is that indie stores have a much better ordering ethic. the people in indie stores tend to be like us and love the music, they go out on a limb and when they here that promo that they love from say 'clinic' they buy the 7" in knowing that it's good music and that by playing it and supporting it they are helping good and diverse music survive. i recognise that indie shops may have evil bosses and money-lusting accountants, but the truth is that it's the staff in the indie stores which make the difference and support new music, new records and new labels. it is they that put themselves out by ordering 'risky' new music (i.e. without a guaranteed return, and without the safety of sale or return guarantees from the distributors.). larger chains have central buying policies which on the whole do not allow for local support from particular shops, it does not allow for a scottish branch to support a scottish band, hence the fact that only records which have 'national' appeal ever reach their shelves and things which have regional appeal tend to only reach the shelves when they've been proven to sell. the indie shops have got it hard with the proliferation of competition due to the spread of the larger stores which had until recently been happy with their captive city centre markets. indie stores are threatened with going bust for their continuing support of 'indie' music, every shop owner knows that the money lies in mid-price and chart records. b&s until know have not been either, and the indie shops supported them, and were probably where you bought 'sinister' from, now b&s are chart music (it's a fact, not a comment on their music), and still the indies support it. so now the choice is with us, do we help and support the indie stores that helped b&s and us meet, or do we choose to aid the very type of company that until very recently refused to stock records like 'sinister'? i, at every opportunity, will continue to support the 'indie' ethic and the 'indie' chain of supply as that is the way that i feel will always bring the great new music to my ears. either we're in this and we don't dilute our ideals and dreams, or we're in this and we do give up our beliefs for money, the latter being what most of you would call 'selling out', the earlier one being what the press, large record shop chains and majors would call 'indie-schmindie crap' or 'lost opportunites to exploit the act for the greatest possible return' but what i would call integrity or something along that line. now, i realise that this isn't one of those topics that will simply disappear, but maybe i've had a momment of clarity enough to be able to put my views across. cheers david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Thu Sep 17 15:22:19 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:22:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: free entry to european gigs + a shirt and all for a little of your time Message-ID: <36011B1B.153691E5@jeepster.co.uk> hiya, we desperately need people to give out flyers/catalogues for all the dates on the european tour. in return we'll make sure you get in to the gig and we'll send you a free shirt afterwards. if you can help in anyway just mail me privately stating which gig you can help at and i'll get back in touch with more info. thanks david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Thu Sep 17 15:35:45 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (rap101) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:35:45 +0100 () Subject: Sinister: Space Boy Dream lyrics Message-ID: Well, hi. As my very first contribution to the list, I think Stuart actually says 'and it wasn't going to be like a MOON trip'. Possibly. If someone has already said this then just tell me to shut up. Archel xxx ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth 32 Heslington Road, York, Y01 5AT (01904) 651217 rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From janine at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 16:59:03 1998 From: janine at xxx.com (Janine Papp) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:59:03 -0500 Subject: Sinister: STING is EVIL Message-ID: Keith wrote: * One of my favourite ever album sleeve pictures is in one of Sting's recent albums, I think it's called "10 Summoner's Tales", and inside the booklet, Sting is picture riding a horse playing a Lute, whilst posing in a "thoughtful" manner OK, I can not remain silent. Don't you know that STING IS EVIL??!!! Sting secretly controls the universe! I'm not joking here! As Queen Bee of the Temple of Sting, I should know!!! My friend Nate and I are co-chairs of the Anti-Sting Alliance (ASA) and we both received THREATS via our websites (the Anti-Sting site and the Temple of Sting site, respectively). In ANY store that sells Sting cds, you should buy them, deface them by writing "Sting Sucks! Bees rule!" in magic marker on the cds, then return them to the store and demand a full refund. Plead temporary insanity for buying Sting cds in the first place. Also: a note about selling cds at the price it cost to manufacture them. It would basically be impossible to do this. You sell the cds to a distributor usually, who then sells them to the store, who then mark them up. When you pay $15 for a cd, about $8 of that goes to the STORE not the label. Plus the label has to pay for recording, advertising, etc. OK enough of that. Just remember: Any store that sells Sting cds should be boycotted. Bees good, Sting bad! Repeat this to yourself often! Queen Bee Janine +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Sep 17 16:01:44 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:01:44 +0200 Subject: Sinister: I am behind You, I am a Tiger! Message-ID: <01bde24c$15df75c0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Wasn't that an Abba song? I think so. Anyway, that is neither saucy nor irrelevant. And neither is this: Tag wrote: (Erlend, a dead ringer for Dennis Pennis, did an impromptu impression of Isaac Hayes in "South Park") One or two of you might remember that I am a huge Isaac Hayes fan, mainly because he makes me feel good about balding. Although Uncle Isaac was very popular until the late(ish) seventies ("I'm gonna have another go at disco!"), until recently he has been _fairly_ obscure and, quite frankly, unavailable in Woolies. This is the second time in recent weeks I have seen reference to Black Moses (as he is known to his fans) in connection with something called "South Park". I don't know what "South Park" is, and if I'm perfectly honest, I don't bloody want to either. But what I do need to know is whether it will be necessary for me to disown Isaac Hayes and claim that I liked him much more when he was bankrupt? That'll teach me to like people who aren't dead! Gerard the sound man, eh? Zat must 'av bin good. I was sure it was going to have been (what a bizarre grammatical spaghetti junction!) Ciara. Have you managed to subscribe properly yet? If not, ignore me. Adrian Evans admitted: Just bought NME. Where did you buy it from, Adrian? I hope it was an independent outlet, not John Menzies or WHSmiths. News In Brief : Belle & Sebastian, Primal Scream, The Chemical Brothers, Arab Strap and The Verve are among artists featured on the soundtrack of The Acid House...blah blah blah The soundtrack....features four previously unreleased songs from.......Belle and Sebastian (Floral Graffitti).....Que ???? Don't worry kids, Uncle Pete is here to save the day. It's that film festival time of year again, and on Saturday night I shall be donning my gladdest rags to go and see "The Acid House", starring Stuart Murdoch as a troubled troubador in search of an english cock cage with magical powers. I'm not sure, but I'm hoping it's not out yet in the rest of the civilised world, so I'll be able to gloat and not tell anybody anything about it. Mark Cassarato wrote: I'm also concerned about my New York trip now. I go and buy the bloody tickets, then Peter reveals all about the hundreds of monsters roaming the streets! Belle and Sebastian are a band who must have literally dozens of fans unwilling to be eaten by dinosaurs - you'd have thought they would have been thoughtful enough to play somewhere where this wasn't an issue You're taking this matter very lately, Mark. If you'd done your homework you would have known that those footprints are far too big to have come from a dinosaur trapped in a time warp. Besides, B&S aren't playing in Madison Square Gardens yet, although I for one CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THEY DO! Keith wrote: It was like 14.99 in Fopp, and 11.99 in HMV. Fopp's wierd, isn't it? They have huge piles of Goldie double albums for a fiver, and "The Best Dressed Chicken in Town" by Doctor Alimantado for 16.99! Guess which one I wanted? In fact, during my latest survey of UK record outlets, I noticed that it was dead easy to find crap, but dead hard to find what you want at a reasonable price. I have a feeling it's the same throughout the world. Depends what you're after I suppose. I also noticed that formerly tiny indie shops are turning into imitation HMVs by the barrel-load, with those bloody stupid display cases out front. Leicester's full of 'em. Let's face it, the only good record shop in the world, following the demise of Ear Ere, is Ultima Thule, and they stock bollocks. I hate record shops, even the good ones. I mean one. Sir Anthony H!O!P!kins is coming to the film festival. Another thing I hate is "listening posts". Bleeurgh! Germs! You've got the lurgy if you've used one. The best record shop ever was Swordfish records in Brum. It was tiny and cramped and all the CDs were displayed on shelves, like in somebody's house, so it was really difficult to see what they were, and they had the Manson Family album in the window and the staff were obviously instructed to laugh at the customers, regardless of what they bought, in my case a splendid Sun Ra compilation. I'm not surprised they laughed really. So did my dad. I think I've told this story before. This once magnificent cornerstone of Birmingham cultural life is no more. Or else it has moved. I realise that all of the above is complete crap, but no way am I deleting it now. Thank you, Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From buffalo at xxx.uk Thu Sep 17 16:15:34 1998 From: buffalo at xxx.uk (Ian Turton) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:15:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I am behind You, I am a Tiger! References: <01bde24c$15df75c0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Message-ID: <36012796.AFD9650D@easynet.co.uk> PJMiller wrote: > This is the second time in recent weeks I have seen reference to Black Moses > (as he is known to his fans) in connection with something called "South Park". > I don't know what "South Park" is, and if I'm perfectly honest, I don't bloody > want to either. But what I do need to know is whether it will be necessary for > me to disown Isaac Hayes and claim that > I liked him much more when he was bankrupt? That'll teach me to like people > who aren't dead! Peter, you sound like a silly old fruit. Get hip to it daddy-o, looooose the preshusnesh. You don't need to disown yer man. South Park's cool enuff. It's a hospital drama whose main protagonists are a quintet of giddy alopecia sufferers. That's more info. than you asked for, and it's all your getting. > I realise that all of the above is complete crap, but no way am I deleting it > now. You've had your go with that sentence, can I have it back now please ? regards, Turt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Thu Sep 17 16:18:53 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:18:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: He's not evil, he's just misguided Message-ID: <01BDE256.DD6AC9F0@keith@qss.co.uk> Keith wrote: * One of my favourite ever album sleeve pictures is in one of Sting's recent albums, I think it's called "10 Summoner's Tales", and inside the booklet, Sting is picture riding a horse playing a Lute, whilst posing in a "thoughtful" manner OK, I can not remain silent. Don't you know that STING IS EVIL??!!! Yeah, Sting is a complete dick, but he has afforded me so many laughs in recent years by being such a complete wanker. It's the way he likes to be filmed/photographed in a "thoughtful" pose that gets me. There was a great one on the South Bank show where he basically talks about how he enjoys walking in the park (thinking about things, naturally) whilst listening to anything between say... Blur, and... Beethoven (my what an ecectic taste you have Mr.Sting). Of course in between all this thoughtfullness, he enjoys having sex for 6 weeks non-stop, which is all down to his tantric yogic flying experiences that he manages to keep it up for so long, although with the large amount of advertising currently being afforded to arab strap technology, Sting need never yoga again. If they repeat that South Bank Show, watch it, it's incredibly funny. I believe the one about David "A" Stewart is just as funny too - someone told me, he apparantly "artily" poses in front of a large number of television sets whilst he talks twaddle. That photo in that album is incredibly funny though. I sort of imagined him thinking of the idea... "yes... I can see it now, on horseback, with a strange medieval instrument". In any case, I'll forever associate him with the time when Suzanne out of Grange Hill was convinced she was having an affair with Mr.Hotford - because of the lyrics to Don't stand so close to me. By the way, cheers for all the replies regarding the meet up. It should be a good laugh, we're gonna try and finalise some time for it to take place so's that people can work out whether they can come. Can I apologise in advance as we're going to have to pick a particular date. Now this date won't suit everyone and some people will no doubt want me to move it. I've already had conflicting wishes from people as regards when it's going to be so unfortunately someone's going to lose out. Rest assured I'll try desperately to make it happen on a day when most people can come along. Apologies for the large numbers of " in the above message Cheers, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 16:27:38 1998 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 08:27:38 PDT Subject: Sinister: Someday soon I will laugh right in the face of the poison moon Message-ID: <19980917152742.11349.qmail@hotmail.com> Speaking of homies: It's damn dangerous to listen to Belle and Sebastian in the ghetto. I was dropping off my date from last night at her building in DC and we decided to share a romantic cuddle + smoke on the hood of my car and I'd had "The Boy with the Arab Strap" in the CD player which I left playing with the windows down, which was good and perfect for a little while until I realized that I was in fact in the middle of the ghetto listening to the whitest music imaginable, getting stared at like a Martian in pedal-pushers. I half expected some seven-foot-tall fellow to stride up and say "Do you mind if we dance witcho dates?" It was at that point that I thought it perhaps wiser to pop in Canibus or Lauryn Hill but didn't want to really wreck the mood so I settled for K-Ci and JoJo (not really, but I did turn it way down). I must apologize to David K for flying off the handle about the indie-solidarity comments; my oversight was not realizing that Woolies demanded the super-distributor discount SO THEY COULD PUT INDIE STORES IN THE GRAVE FOR GOOD I'd like to think. Not that they're really actually selling the same merchandise, I mean, indie and big chain stores have somewhat overlapping but usually quite different target markets (i.e. bedsit obsessives/casual listeners). Indie record stores, I think, definitely have it a lot easier than, say, independent clothing stores or the like which are selling to pretty much the same people who buy their clothes at Big K. I don't think there's really any need to worry about Belle and Sebastian getting too famous, their music isn't really garish or danceable or radio-ready enough to make any kind of real mainstream impact, I don't think..... and I pray to someday swallow those words. We should all hope for a cooler world and want to share, not hoard, something this priceless.... I sometimes feel that people who want a band they love to "stay indie" or stay un-famous or something are only into the music because it makes them feel cooler than their fellow human.... I've met too many of them, and they're the ones who really cheapen the experience for me. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seaborne at xxx.nl Thu Sep 17 16:25:25 1998 From: seaborne at xxx.nl (Koen) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:25:25 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Trust the French Message-ID: <000201bde24f$803e4420$48866dc2@computer> Yesterday a friend told me that he had to return his copy of the TWATTYBUS-cd to the store 'cause it fades in too late, ie "Career" starts with "...had" instead of "...he had". He already had the promo so he could compare, so I know he's not talking bollocks. The CD he bought was the Delabel-version, so I fear all of us on the European mainland are stuck with a shoddily mastered CD. Koen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bsanant at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 16:39:34 1998 From: bsanant at xxx.com (Birjinder Anant) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 08:39:34 PDT Subject: Sinister: Matador has Seymour Stein and I don't Message-ID: <19980917153934.19755.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi everyone, I just want to complain about Matador a bit...I STILL HAVEN'T HEARD TBWTAS YET...here's how this developed: A few weeks ago, I moved from Berkeley back home to Texas until the end of the month, when I am leaving for school at Sussex. So knowing in advance that I wouldn't be able to find the album in my hometown (and I HAVEN'T), I decided to order it directly from Matador, one CD and one LP. I called them up on the 2nd of September, and they said "We'll have it to you in 1-2 weeks, for sure before 2 weeks" I wanted to get it sooner than 2 weeks, but I settled for that because I had no choice. I called them occasionally to see if they had sent it yet, and of course they hadn't, they just said "It's just so hectic here, etc" and they kept on pushing back the date...to over three weeks! Since I'm leaving very soon, I finally decided to order it from Amazon, which will take them 2-3 days. I was hesitant to do that, b/c I they don't carry the LP. The moral of my story is that I find Matador mail order pretty repugnant...can the person from Matador explain why they've taken so long and why the mail order people lie so much (the last time I talked to them I told them that I had to leave in a week and he promised to get it out for sure by then, like he was doing me a favor, and I found out yesterday that they still haven't shipped it). It's terrible, isn't it? Take care, Birjinder ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idoruzine at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 16:39:58 1998 From: idoruzine at xxx.com (carly marcoux) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 08:39:58 PDT Subject: Sinister: Hand claps galore!! Message-ID: <19980917153959.11090.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey all!!! Just walked into HMV yesterday and went straight away to the counter (i had no time for fun-- my mind was set!) to ask for TBWTAS... and the girl was like "what?" and i was like "what? you don't know them?" really tho, she looked it up in the computer and she couldn't find a thing... i had seen the single there so i knew that they HAD to have it and -- of course -- it took me two seconds to point it out! wow! wowwowoowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!sandrastarling and i got our first earful last night and figured we had to give it a few listens to see if we could love it as much as IYFS ... but, already, i am in love with the beautiful handclaps in TBWTAS and the wicked melody in "sleep the clock around" woweeeee! Have to catch up on all my posts now! Gotta go! Love ya listees! See ya in T.O.!!! xx listee sammi! >From owner-sinister at majordomo.net Thu Sep 17 08:18:34 1998 >Received: from localhost (daemon at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA29216; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:59:34 +0100 >Received: by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:59:15 +0100 >Received: (from majordomo at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA29159 for sinister-outgoing; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:59:06 +0100 >Received: from landsraad.net (chusuk.arrakis.es [195.5.65.35]) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA29148 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:58:43 +0100 >Received: from itjfvkli (if-243.arrakis.es [195.5.75.243]) > by landsraad.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA06989 > for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:55:37 +0200 (MET DST) >From: "PJMiller" >To: "B&S mailing list" >Subject: Sinister: I am behind You, I am a Tiger! >Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:01:44 +0200 >Message-ID: <01bde24c$15df75c0$LocalHost at itjfvkli> >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 >Reply-To: "PJMiller" >X-List: Sinister > > >Wasn't that an Abba song? I think so. Anyway, that is neither saucy nor >irrelevant. And neither is this: > >Tag wrote: > >(Erlend, a dead ringer for Dennis Pennis, did an impromptu impression of >Isaac Hayes in "South Park") > >One or two of you might remember that I am a huge Isaac Hayes fan, mainly >because he makes me feel good about balding. Although Uncle Isaac was very >popular until the late(ish) seventies ("I'm gonna have another go at >disco!"), until recently he has been _fairly_ obscure and, quite frankly, >unavailable in Woolies. This is the second time in recent weeks I have seen >reference to Black Moses (as he is known to his fans) in connection with >something called "South Park". I don't know what "South Park" is, and if I'm >perfectly honest, I don't bloody want to either. But what I do need to know >is whether it will be necessary for me to disown Isaac Hayes and claim that >I liked him much more when he was bankrupt? That'll teach me to like people >who aren't dead! > >Gerard the sound man, eh? Zat must 'av bin good. I was sure it was going to >have been (what a bizarre grammatical spaghetti junction!) Ciara. Have you >managed to subscribe properly yet? If not, ignore me. > >Adrian Evans admitted: > >Just bought NME. > >Where did you buy it from, Adrian? I hope it was an independent outlet, not >John Menzies or WHSmiths. > >News In Brief : Belle & Sebastian, Primal Scream, The Chemical Brothers, >Arab Strap and The Verve are among artists featured on the soundtrack of The >Acid House...blah blah blah The soundtrack....features four previously >unreleased songs from.......Belle and Sebastian (Floral Graffitti).....Que >???? > >Don't worry kids, Uncle Pete is here to save the day. It's that film >festival time of year again, and on Saturday night I shall be donning my >gladdest rags to go and see "The Acid House", starring Stuart Murdoch as a >troubled troubador in search of an english cock cage with magical powers. >I'm not sure, but I'm hoping it's not out yet in the rest of the civilised >world, so I'll be able to gloat and not tell anybody anything about it. > >Mark Cassarato wrote: > >I'm also concerned about my New York trip now. I go and buy the bloody >tickets, then Peter reveals all about the hundreds of monsters roaming >the streets! Belle and Sebastian are a band who must have literally >dozens of fans unwilling to be eaten by dinosaurs - you'd have thought >they would have been thoughtful enough to play somewhere where this >wasn't an issue > >You're taking this matter very lately, Mark. If you'd done your homework you >would have known that those footprints are far too big to have come from a >dinosaur trapped in a time warp. Besides, B&S aren't playing in Madison >Square Gardens yet, although I for one CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THEY DO! > >Keith wrote: > >It was like 14.99 in Fopp, and 11.99 in HMV. > >Fopp's wierd, isn't it? They have huge piles of Goldie double albums for a >fiver, and "The Best Dressed Chicken in Town" by Doctor Alimantado for >16.99! Guess which one I wanted? In fact, during my latest survey of UK >record outlets, I noticed that it was dead easy to find crap, but dead hard >to find what you want at a reasonable price. I have a feeling it's the same >throughout the world. Depends what you're after I suppose. I also noticed >that formerly tiny indie shops are turning into imitation HMVs by the >barrel-load, with those bloody stupid display cases out front. Leicester's >full of 'em. Let's face it, the only good record shop in the world, >following the demise of Ear Ere, is Ultima Thule, and they stock bollocks. I >hate record shops, even the good ones. I mean one. > >Sir Anthony H!O!P!kins is coming to the film festival. > >Another thing I hate is "listening posts". Bleeurgh! Germs! You've got the >lurgy if you've used one. The best record shop ever was Swordfish records in >Brum. It was tiny and cramped and all the CDs were displayed on shelves, >like in somebody's house, so it was really difficult to see what they were, >and they had the Manson Family album in the window and the staff were >obviously instructed to laugh at the customers, regardless of what they >bought, in my case a splendid Sun Ra compilation. I'm not surprised they >laughed really. So did my dad. I think I've told this story before. > >This once magnificent cornerstone of Birmingham cultural life is no more. Or >else it has moved. > >I realise that all of the above is complete crap, but no way am I deleting >it now. > >Thank you, > >Peter > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 17:09:37 1998 From: Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com (Anastasia Signoretta) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 12:09:37 EDT Subject: Sinister: I am behind You, I am a Tiger! Message-ID: hiya, some pointless nonsense from a procrastinating laborer: i'm incredibly sorry for this...but i think everyone, especially the prudish, should watch 'south park' if they have access to it. last night here in the states they reran the episode where mr. hankey dies and the film festival comes to town...i'm so sorry, but chef's 'salty balls' song nearly knocked me off my couch in a fit of laughter. maybe it's my crude american side coming out to play, but...er, excuse me for this, carry on... stasia anastasia signoretta atlantic records international media relations 1290 avenue of the americas 24th floor new york, ny 10104 212.707.2619 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 'we're so disco we can't get on in this world anymore...' suede ------------- Original Text >From "Ian Turton" , on 9/17/98 11:15 AM: PJMiller wrote: > This is the second time in recent weeks I have seen reference to Black Moses > (as he is known to his fans) in connection with something called "South Park". > I don't know what "South Park" is, and if I'm perfectly honest, I don't bloody > want to either. But what I do need to know is whether it will be necessary for > me to disown Isaac Hayes and claim that > I liked him much more when he was bankrupt? That'll teach me to like people > who aren't dead! Peter, you sound like a silly old fruit. Get hip to it daddy-o, looooose the preshusnesh. You don't need to disown yer man. South Park's cool enuff. It's a hospital drama whose main protagonists are a quintet of giddy alopecia sufferers. That's more info. than you asked for, and it's all your getting. > I realise that all of the above is complete crap, but no way am I deleting it > now. You've had your go with that sentence, can I have it back now please ? regards, Turt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Thu Sep 17 16:50:53 1998 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins, Tim) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:50:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I won't be there when you cross the road Message-ID: A new Mark wrote: >Every time I throw on IYFS I feel like I'm listening to an old Sarah Records compilation You *throw* on IYFS? I normally just pish... All rise for Keith Watson... >My main problem with this sort of thing is >that people do the same as they tend to do with politics and turn every >situation into an us versus them situation, casting one side as >holier-than-thou and another side as the evil empire - like Darth Vader or >Fenella the Witch or something. Yeah...Darth Vader and the Green Cross Man (low rent UK quasi-superhero and jumpsuit-wearing good guy whose job was to get THE KIDS to cross the road safely) were, after all, the same guy. Go figure... Who is Fenella the Witch? >It doesn't really help. It seems to me >pointless arguing the pros and cons, and no I don't accept that everyone >who works for a major record company is evil. Not one bit. I don't believe >in people actually being evil at all come to that, perhaps misguided is a >better word. Lee 'Scratch' Perry swore blind that he saw Chris Blackwell (former Island Records head honcho and heir to a pickle fortune) drink the blood of a freshly killed chicken. He wrote a song about it, called (funnily enough) 'Blackwell Is A Vampire'. Chris Blackwell pays proper royalties to the artists he produced/released, while 'Scratch', it is rumoured, does/did no such thing. Who is the vampire? >by the way, I've got a cracking photo of >you pissed up in Glasgow. Looks like that'll have to go on the photos page] Oh gawd. Perhaps I should learn to shut my mouth? At least I wasn't the one who was so wasted he kept insisting that a disposable camera was a mobile phone... And at least you didn't have your 'phone' with you in Leeds. Did you? > Mark wrote : > > Good grief. I thought opinions like this went out with the eighties? > Me too. One of the great things about pop music as a medium of mass production and mass consumption is that it remains open to all (though sometimes you need to be prepared to put work in to find it). Anything or anyone which says that the masses shouldn't get into a particular group misses a big part of the point of pop anyway, I'd have thought. Snobbery and elitism have no place in my pop paradigm. It's up to Belle and Sebastian to decide what they want to do, and to make sure, if they end up playing huge arenas, that they don't go all crap. Unless they want to. Glenn 'Sunday' People wrote: >if you said or thought either, you are either a liar or a fool. Cool! I like being a liar and a fool! Although I have to admit, I tend to prefer terms like 'self-contradictory' and 'young and foolish', but hey! we're all friends here. Aren't we? I must also admit that I try my hardest to like music for its own sake and not for some petty game of one-upmanship. I'm delighted when I like the same bands as 11-year olds. It seems to me that 11-year-olds know a whole lot about pop music that older folks have forgotten. I'd rather stand next to an excited 'rookie' than some sweaty old muso who knew all the words. Like me. Or perhaps you, Glenn. I was once a 'rookie' fan. Were you? It was a very important part of my growing up (which, admittedly, kind of failed...) I've tried to remember what it was like. I think that that memory is an important part of what pop means to me. All of which is a hopeless romanticisation, but that's probably pop too, come to think of it. First I lose my pants, now I can't use my pop E!X!C!L!A!M!A!T!I!O!N! marks, cos if I do Honey's nasty machine will make me look silly, or perhaps downright tasteless. What will I lose next? I'll lose you all:-( Laters, Tim +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marks at xxx.uk Thu Sep 17 16:53:52 1998 From: marks at xxx.uk (Mark Simpson) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:53:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Swordfish Records Message-ID: <000001bde253$5e961920$1700a8c0@pc25.savant.co.uk> Swordfish in Birmingham does still exist. And full of great stuff it is too. Unfortunately there's a listening post there now. But hey, you can't have everything. Fortunately though it's a "cool indie" stylee listening post, exactly the same as they had in the late great Ere Ear records (and no, I'm not taking the piss). I'm not absolutely sure as to if they've got the cool indie stylee Coke machine though... Mark +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Thu Sep 17 17:00:09 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:00:09 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: stuart murdoch the insect hater Message-ID: I have to report, hastily, on the Is A Cricket Not A Pear? video, which as Katrina tastily told us UK people, was on Alternative Nation on MTV on Tuesday night. I'm surprised noone else mentioned it, but I completely forgot I'd taped it too, and did a little shuffle with the remote control last night. And lo and behold! there it was, right at the beginning of the program, in prime busty form, looking all and impressive and handmade, no doubt with Stuart's trusty cine camera he keeps in a sponge bag (no joke). Here's a quick run through: It starts off, worryingly, with a quote from Jacques Cousteau, all about hearts. Sorry I meant Jean Cocteau, actually it's a nice thing but I can't remember it here. Then a creaky gate opens in a black n white stylee, and we see Isobel singing to a little toy lion and sitting amongst the grass. The film the video the same day they did the pictures for the TWATTYBUS cover, because pretty soon we see Richard sitting in a deck chair in his straw hat, drinking wine and being serenaded by Stevie on an acoustic. Whenever the camera goes to Richard it gets a Charlie Chaplainesque jitter as he munches thoughtfully; at the same time Chris and Mick are fighting swords on the battlements in kilts (down, boys and girls), and let me tell you, sorry Mick, it looks like Chris was winning. This is interspersed with VERY cute shots of Sarah up a tree in barefeet playing violin a la Dexys, and Stuart David fishing in a grumpy manner. Stuart M is then seen burning insects with a magnifying glass along a little lane. Stuart likes burning insects, he's done it all his life and he likes to see them writhe in pain - it's where he gets the lyrics for most of his songs from. Did I ever mention that Stuart David ever only eats cheese? Through a straw? Actually, Stuart is following a little trail of David and Katrina's super little "Belle and Sebastian" badges (the red and white ones), with his magnifying glass, and we all look thoughtfully and then say "oh yes! John and Oko and the stepladder!". Incidentally, Yoko's "YES" came to the Edinburgh Fruitmarket Gallery recently and they WOULDN'T LET YOU CLIMB THE STEPLADDER! I bet the devil with three horns at Woolies had something to do with it. Anyway, in the end, Isobel lobs a bottle into the water and Stuart David fishes it out. Stuart does the most fabulous, stroke-my-chin-hmm-whats-this acting I've ever seen, akin to one of Captain Mainwaring's performances when his glasses fall off. The gate closes and it says "The End". Linda says it should have said "Fin". It's a wicked little video and loads of fun. If you happened to tape the whole of Alternative Nation (please don't have a go at me if you're not in the UK or you haven't got cable, my legs hurt), you won't find any more B&S, sadly, but don't rub it off! Because later on, aside from something bizarre from Sven Vath, who seems to have stolen Peter Miller's hair, there's a completely fabulous video by the completely fabulous Cornelius, which makes me think "you can stuff your Air up your bum", but then I get some rather nasty pictures in my mind. Nuff to say, it's a great song, great video, and in case you didn't spot it, he's smoking and singing backwards all the way through. the honey who was paul xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Scott_Turner at xxx.COM Thu Sep 17 17:11:03 1998 From: Scott_Turner at xxx.COM (Scott Turner) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 12:11:03 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I had a smoke at the age of 24.... Message-ID: <85256682.0057D83B.00@JHMAIL.JH.COM> Did anyone else see Mark Koselek (RHP) last night in philly or the night before in ny? Other than finally seeing him, I thought it was a real let down: a bar packed with the latest-indie-i-want-to-look-like-elliot-smith-urban-outfitters-i-look-like- a-mechanic-crowd, and then Mark lookin (and supposedly feeling) like a big frumpball, belting out his toons with to me what seemed like a little too much levity? yet the toons are so DAMN good, it was definitely worth it. odd. anyone else go and have anyother thoughts. .scott +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 17:15:06 1998 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 12:15:06 EDT Subject: Sinister: domestic vinyl Message-ID: <4cc4ee03.3601358a@aol.com> Does anyone know if the Matador vinyl is out yet? I haven't seen it at any shops so I was wondering if there was a delay. The import has a gatefold and thicker vinyl so I've heard. Any other significant differences between the two vinyl pressings? Pete +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sweaters at xxx.net Thu Sep 17 17:29:45 1998 From: sweaters at xxx.net (Butch Sweaters) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 12:29:45 -0400 Subject: Sinister: REAL New Yorker illustration URL Message-ID: <360138F8.DA258B65@dca.net> Here's the real URL for the Belle and Sebastian picture from the New Yorker: http://www.dca.net/~sweaters/belleandsebastian.html Sorry for the bad info last time. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Thu Sep 17 17:03:44 1998 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetryplace2) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:03:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I won't be there when you cross the road Message-ID: <01bde254$bf45e100$046b9ac2@g5-200-3> Tim Hopkins wrote: >Who is Fenella the Witch? At the risk of starting another kid's tv stampede, Fenella the Witch was the arch villain, the no-goodnik, the bad egg, in the delightful program 'Chorlton and the Wheelies'. This featured the young Bobby MacTaggart riding around the Manchester suburb on his Chopper bicycle, with his bosom buddy, Julian riding shotgun. Fenella the witch was played by none other than the lovely Cerys from Catatonia. I haven't posted for a while have I? I've been on me hols, luring international travellers back to my flat to look at my big painting of a nudey man. The duck-billed twattybus meets with my approval, of course. I especially like the way that for a few seconds on 'Chicktractor', after Stevie sings 'She's 5 hours behind', it sounds like Nico has contributed backing vocals from beyond the grave. I also like the way that 'Simple Minds' starts off like it is going to turn into Suzanne Vega's 1986 chart smash 'Left of Centre'. I am currently preparing my latest exciting competition, so get your thinking caps on! Mr Love Pants +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 17:16:52 1998 From: Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com (Jim Schmidt) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 98 09:16:52 MST Subject: Sinister: any comments on these bands? Message-ID: <9808179060.AA906049386@mail.newtimes.com> just wondering if anyone can give me their humble (or not-so-humble) opinion on these bands i've been eyeing at my local record shop. i would be ever so grateful... boards of canada theaudience helen love +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Thu Sep 17 16:56:43 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Fluffy Sarah) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:56:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Boring post, sorry. Well I'm ILL you pooheads! Message-ID: Boo! Ha! Did I scare ya? Well its only meee.... That Tag wrote this stuff about the list paarrt-tay, or whatever the fook we are calling it : >It would help though if you could express an >interest or preference, then we know how many people, where, when etc, >etc. Manchester! I don't know where, but somewhere in Manchester, so during the day I can spend money in the vinyl exchange and get garlic bread from Tesco and throw things at pigeons in Picadilly Gardens and laugh as I walk past Are Shite for reasons know only to myself. Time? NEW YEARS sometime. 'Cos working dudes should have some holidays then - I do - and as I shall probably be all alone in the house at new years, due to parents going on holiday and me, er, not, I'd like to feel a have a wee smidgeon of a life round that time... Ooh. I was sure there was something else I had to write. Ah yes. I am trying to read a book called "Cronica de unda muerte anunciada". I know what that means. Chronicle of a death announced. I hope! Something about death anyways. Ahh! That has just reminded me! A big list welcome to the UK to miss amanda swan dudette who arrived here yonks ago and I just kept forgtetting to post to the list, doh!!! el día en que lo iban a matar.....thats not to kill is it???? oh berlimey limey. sod it. I'm ill. Blurgh. Fish heads. Fish heads. Eat them up. Yum. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Candarel La caza de amor es de altanería - Gil Vincente. Like I know what that means. The hunt of love is the...? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 1974052 at xxx.fr Thu Sep 17 18:49:45 1998 From: 1974052 at xxx.fr (Pierre-Henri Crave) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:49:45 +0100 Subject: Sinister: any comments on these bands? In-Reply-To: <9808179060.AA906049386@mail.newtimes.com> Message-ID: <3357802013@routsip.univ-tlse1.fr> > Date: Thu, 17 Sep 98 09:16:52 MST > From: "Jim Schmidt" > To: sinister at majordomo.net > Subject: Sinister: any comments on these bands? > Reply-to: "Jim Schmidt" > > just wondering if anyone can give me their humble (or not-so-humble) > opinion on these bands i've been eyeing at my local record shop. i > would be ever so grateful... > > boards of canada > theaudience > helen love > I just know Theaudience and it's quite brilliant. Well I didn't buy the album yet, I've just heard the singles. What could I say? The voice of the singer makes me think of Hope Sandoval from Mazzy Star. leaping around all night long, soporific-eyed during the day Pierre-Henri Crave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From d.barker at xxx.uk Thu Sep 17 17:53:13 1998 From: d.barker at xxx.uk (Cassell Professional Publishing) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1998 17:53:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: New EP: Bogus details Message-ID: <0009022dffd4$0a485ea0$7b65e4d4@server> Apparently, the new EP will feature radical reworkings of songs on the album, recorded with other illustrious practitioners of 'chart' music. Track listing: Stevie Jackson and John Squire: Seahorse Stein Stuart David and Babylon Zoo: Spaceman Dream Isobel Campbell and Will Smith: Is It Jiggy Not To Care? Stuart Murdoch and Thom Yorke: Creep The Clock Around I'm looking forward to Isobel's the most. I tried to pick up the French radio station that will be broadcasting the session next month, expecting fuzz, but it's clear as a bell here in London! Cool! The video was beautiful the other night. Very reminiscent of my favourite TV show of all time, The Herbs. Isobel was clutching a lovely Parsley lookalike, and the mysterious gate at the beginning and the end was cool, too. I didn't stay up in time for the Cornelius vid, but the Squarepusher video was fantastic. How the hell can he afford to make a video like that? Is he posh or something? Desperately hoping for some sexy Geordie football tonight, DAVID +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mcrooker at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 17:55:00 1998 From: mcrooker at xxx.com (Crooker, Matthew) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 12:55:00 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Toronto Show Message-ID: <199809171658.AA02011@interlock.randomhouse.com> I just picked up my tickets for the Toronto show . . . and I'm buzzing like a bug lamp. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From laurel_girvan at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 18:59:17 1998 From: laurel_girvan at xxx.com (Laurel Girvan) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 98 12:59:17 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Re: 5 hours behind Message-ID: <9809179060.AA906051586@hholt.com> according to my calculations, the "girl" referred to in hicktractor must reside somewhere in either the pacific isles or alaska, in order to be 5 hours behind the east cost. just in case you all were wondering...as i'm sure you were. well, no one ever accused me of keeping people in suspense. laurel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Fri Sep 18 18:19:17 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:19:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: theaudience are sooooooooooo goooooood Message-ID: <199809171724.SAA25113@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> So Jim, You wanted to know what we thought of the bands you listed. Well I've not heard Surfboards of Canada so I can't comment, but have a look in the archives, I remember that a lot was written about them a while back. And as for theaudience, they are just so; 1 clever, coz the decided not to use any capital letters or spaces in their name. Just imagine how much better Belle & Sebastian would be if Stuart (wash your mouth out with soap and water, boy!) had decided to call the band belleandsebastian. Oh how different things would have been. 2. the new Garbage. It is a conspiracy, you see, get a load of old men to form a band and get a singer who is marginally more attractive than them to sing. 3.clever (again), because they have taken the idea of using long song titles from our very finest B&S (eg LLPJ , TWATTYBUS.) and given us the classics that are "A pessimist is not usually disappointed except on Mondays" and "I dont know enough blah blah blah". And they didn't even use an apostrophy in that last song title. 4. Cool. coz they know that nobody likes them so the members take it in turn to leave just to get publicity and stay in the news of NME (aka the i love Sophie Baxter Ellis, hamster girl fanzine.) 5 Haven't you got the message yet that they are not very good. Even Smash Hits magazine (my sister buys it, not me!) gave it 1out of 5 and they know a good album when they see one. Hope that helps you in deciding if you are going to buy the album. Gomez!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't particularly rate the album. Long live "The boy with the Persian Cat" I'm currently listening to a Century of Elvis. It could be a giant millepede. And that would explain why Stuart M has an insect phobia, he had a bad experience while at Stuart David's house. And maybe Ease Your Beetle in the Sea, is a tale of revenge. I think I've had too many smarties. Jake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 1974052 at xxx.fr Thu Sep 17 19:27:14 1998 From: 1974052 at xxx.fr (Pierre-Henri Crave) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:27:14 +0100 Subject: Sinister: watch your tongues In-Reply-To: <11422.199809161558@owl.le.ac.uk> References: from "Glenn Peoples" at Sep 16, 98 08:39:31 am Message-ID: <33F7D87E4B@routsip.univ-tlse1.fr> > From: mjh18 at xxx.uk > Subject: Re: Sinister: watch your tongues > To: GRP at valley-media.com > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:58:37 +0100 (BST) > Cc: sinister at majordomo.net > Reply-to: mjh18 at leicester.ac.uk > > Sorry to be harsh kids, but FOR HEAVENS SAKE, if the trials of Britpop achieved > nothing else, surely they allowed us to leave this kind of nonsense behind? I > think B&S are GRATE, i spend HOURS berating other people and forcing them to > listen to it because i happen to LIKE other people and want to introduce them > to good things. If lots of people like the same things as me i think of that as > a GOOD thing. If a band i like does well, that means they get to be ON THE > RADIO more often, get to appear in MAGAZINES more often, get to be ON THE TELLY > more often, and get to keep on making records. > I do agree with you on this point, Mark. Sorry Glenn, but your opinion sounds a little bit elitist... Do you think you own the bands you like? Aren't you happy when one of your friends, who is not specifically into indie, tells you he likes B&S? leaping around all night long, soporific-eyed during the day Pierre-Henri Crave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GretchN66 at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 18:35:51 1998 From: GretchN66 at xxx.com (GretchN66 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 13:35:51 EDT Subject: Sinister: Guys,Guys!! Message-ID: <15db42b7.36014877@aol.com> Sometimes i wander why i spend such long amounts of time going through my sinister mail, when you guys spend so much of your time on silly arguements. Then i remember it's because you guys are really pretty cool and half of the time, have really interesting things to inform us about, or interesting views to express, and that interests me. All i can do is think about the night i get to stand just a few yards away from the band and watch their mouths as they sing out the words, and their hands as they move to produce such beautiful music! Weather it's in Athens, GA, or new york, or Europe, or my miraculous little cd player-from which i listen to B&S, that is what we all have in common, no matter who listens to them or where they buy it, or how they came across the band in the first place (the cd didn't just pop into your cd player- you found out about them from somwhere, or saw it for the first time- and decided to try it!) We listen to them because we love their music, and it is the band themselves that decide how big they get or how small they stay (although with help from us)-i speak for myself when i say -I am a lifetime fan and no one else in the world will effect that! Gretchen Tampa,FL +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From james at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 18:39:35 1998 From: james at xxx.com (J Errington) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:39:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: (Note - Insert amusing comment here) Message-ID: Hello sinistereens or listies or whatever the current term is. I havent written for a while due to (a) not having anything interesting to say, not that that stopped me before (b) Going out and neglecting my e-mail and mainly (c) There suddenly being an overwhelming amount of Content. Well, I can go some way to redressing (c) - Here's my non-Content all time top ten herbal teas: 1. Peppermint 2. Blueberry 3. Mandarin 4. Rosehip 5. Strawberry, Blackberry & Something 6. Cinnamon, Vanilla & Honey (Although everyone else hates the smell) 7. Fennel 8. Lemon 9. Lemon & Ginger 10. Erm... Definitely not 'Blackcurrant Bracer'! Eeeuugh! Pour it away! Hmmn, maybe I'm getting a little too twisted, being at home on my own all day. Since all my friends seem to be dissapearing to Uni I'm stuck here lying in bed, listening to everything B&S have done, eating marshmallows and reading 'Second from last in the sack race.' Simply hell, darlings ;-) Well, where was I? Oh yes. Bjork said: > "It seems to me in England, rock or guitar music is mainstream, > it's kind of goody-goody. Very square. And electronic music is > for rebels: sort of creative, taking risks, where rock music is > playing it safe. Well, I like Bjork but that really is bullwarks of the nobelist order. I dont know, maybe it's because she knows all the cutting edge dj peeps and only sees all the high-charting noelrock pish. I doubt she's heard B&S. I like 'dance music' in theory but if you listen to the radio programmes on saturdays, well, it's 95% regurgitated disco sludge and deserves to be forgotten as fast as it will be. I thought I would tell all you non-digest listees about an interesting phenomenon I've witnessed. Rod Begbie puts out messages with "Please ignore the piece-of-crap advertisment that follows" at the bottom - undoubtedly because his service provider puts on some line at the end. However, little does he know that Honey's new filter cuts it out anyway, and it looks like Rod is telling us to ignore the 'piece-of-crap' next message. Tee Hee. Has anyone come up with an amusing anagram of 'The Boy With The Arab Strap' yet? No? Me neither. A lot of mishearings talk too. While I had the radcliffe session but not IYFS for a few months I thought the fist line of 'Stars of Track & Field' was 'Make a new coat everyday to suit your affairs' Well I thought it was funny. David & Katrina said: > PS: things currently being worked on - a rock family tree for the band Yes! I have to see this! What will you call it? Belle and Sebastian and the Scotpop explosion of the late nineties? Belle & Sebastian & Friends? Belle, Sebastian and other scottish musicians of 1995 onwards? Will it include the legendary band that had Stuart and whoever-that-bloke-on-mark-radcliffe-was in it? genevieve said: > are there any Fun Facts on Belle and Sebastian like they do with the boy > bands? Like 'Stuart's favourite colour is blue and he loves his mam's > homemade haggis (or whatever,that's the only scottish food i know) and > in his spare time he crochets,cleans up oil spills and rescues pets from > the humane society' Stuart works collecting blood at the abbatoir and selling it to small middle-class kiddies in his spare time. His honorary post is as 'King Pimp' but HoneyPaul does the day-to-day operations. His favorite food is grilled overripe aubergine with a bean & tatty pie and his favorite colour is vomit red. Isobel lives by night as a vampire, feasting on the blood of obese american tourists. To earn extra pocket money she sells Skag cut with Persil to Tory MPs. She is powered by her magic pedal-pushers. Her favorite food is Haggis made with the stomach lining of Jerry Garcia and the leftover meat from Jerry Springer, and her favorite colour is rupture mauve. Chris has a secret double life as a spy for Sony. His task is to infiltrate Jeepster records and help their evil takeover bid, for which he is paid chocolate- coated peanuts. His favorite food is Findus Crispy Pancakes (While frozen) and his favorite colour is intestinal grey. Sarah is only a hologram. The real Sarah lives in Basingstoke and works by day cleaning the socks of rich old men with her special formula. At night she sends out her holograms to conquer the world. Her favorite food is deep fried mars bars (she eats nothing else) and her favorite colour is omlette opaque. I could go on.... I wont. libellously yours, WeeJay "Who cares where national borders lie? Who cares whose laws you're governed by? Who cares what name you call a town? Who cares when you're six feet beneath the ground?" james at twopounds.u-net.com (my site kills browsers) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Cabaret/5523/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Gntlmn1220 at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 19:11:37 1998 From: Gntlmn1220 at xxx.com (Gntlmn1220 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:11:37 EDT Subject: Sinister: For the Love of God... Message-ID: <5b085adb.360150d9@aol.com> Dearest Sinister-Mates, I would so love to count myself among your ranks, but I have just been introduced to this morass of Belle & Sebastian lovers. I am overwhelmed. I suppose I should introduce myself... My name is Joshua. I have but a few questions for the melange of readers that this letter shall go out to... 1. Does anyone know where a humble B&S fan in the US can get a hold of Tigermilk and Twattybus? I am so desperate. I need these albums. 2. How many singles, aside from LLPJ, 369..., and Dog on Wheels is there? 3. Does anyone have any information regarding B&S touring here in the US. I would open a vein to see my most delicate of pop stars... Any help would be most appreciated. Yours, Joshua Izzo I personally own no terry underwear +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 19:46:49 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:46:49 EDT Subject: Sinister: I've been to Hastings! Message-ID: Evening popkids! I'm tempted to send you all an Ink Postcard. And I'm a sucker for temptation, so I will: here's one of me and my mum walking by the sea. To our suprise, it's quite clean, and the weather's hot enough to go swimming, if you can muster the energy. 'If it keeps on like this', i'm saying, ' I'll have to take my jumper off.' here's another quick one: This was taken in the cafe on the pier. I think it used to be a ballroom, 'cause the celing's really high, and there are fairy lights dangling from it. The shiny wooden floor's covered with maybe a hundred tables now though,and even more chairs, so there's no room for any grooving. it's not a good one of me, 'cause I've just put a hot chip in my mouth, and I'm trying to spit it out without looking vulgar. I needn't have worried, because we were the only ones in there. Not much cop, I admit, but I'm a little unsettled. I've been hexed, you see: Tim (not p!o!p!kins) wrote: <> Agh!, That seagull, the one that nearly landed on my head! It was IN YOUR POWER! I see it all now. Sinister list controlled by forces of evil.Tim, I'll never disagree with you again. (Hastings is great though, popsters, lots of junk shops secondhand books and cafes. And the S!E!A! A hipster could learn to live there...) bye seb ''..and I tell you this faded glamour's a 'stupid art school idea'. And you tell me I don't know either, 'cause I don't have to live here. I could just move away-probably will some day...'' (Animals that swim) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Niceaction at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 20:04:47 1998 From: Niceaction at xxx.com (Niceaction at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:04:47 EDT Subject: Sinister: a bit crude :o( Message-ID: <85f77747.36015d4f@aol.com> Kenny at dircon.co.uk wrote : And as for theaudience, they are just so; 1 clever, coz the decided not to use any capital letters or spaces in their name. Just imagine how much better Belle & Sebastian would be if Stuart (wash your mouth out with soap and water, boy!) had decided to call the band belleandsebastian. Oh how different things would have been. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------- erm, you try saying Belleandsebastian in one word, it sounds more like Bell End Sebastian.. Not so good.. teehee Jamie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 20:14:56 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:14:56 EDT Subject: Sinister: Godbless you Kristen Bailey! Message-ID: <1becaab8.36015fb0@aol.com> Has anyone else had a peek at this site? http://www.catharton.com/busstop/ it's called Bus Stop, and it's about B+S and buses! How great is that? You should all know my love of bus travel by now .Bugger! Why didn't I have this idea first? (because I'm lazy and not very imaginative, that's right.) Anyway, I only found it by chance, and though I'm sure the author's on the list, I hadn't heard of it on here before. So there we are. Kristen, you shall be recieving 'bus essays.. seb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From donovan at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 20:15:27 1998 From: donovan at xxx.com (donovan finn) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:15:27 -0400 Subject: Sinister: BOSTON show Message-ID: FYI:Just got off the phone with the promoter of the Boston show. So far they have sold a little over 400 tickets out of 630 available. They anticipate a sellout by the first week of October if not earlier. If you are planning on going to this show, I suggest buying tickets sooner rather than later. A word of advice for any listees thinking of travelling to one or more shows who can't decide which show to see....it's been my experience that most bands *rarely* play their best shows in NYC. Not that it's impossible, but I'd say it's rare, possibly becaus of the pressure, real or imagined, of playing in a town so full of uber-critical writers and industry folk. Or maybe it's the water. -donovan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ken_davis at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 09:26:44 1998 From: ken_davis at xxx.com (ken_davis at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 98 03:26:44 -0500 Subject: Sinister: BOSTON show Message-ID: <9809179060.AA906060187@smtp-gw2.putnaminv.com> OK...I'll bite....where do we get these remarkably hard to find tickets? I've contacted all my usual ticket-sellers with absolutely no luck. Apologies if this has already been broadcast to the list at large, but I'm new around here. Cheers Ken +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 21:01:36 1998 From: Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com (Anastasia Signoretta) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:01:36 EDT Subject: Sinister: BOSTON show Message-ID: re: nyc shows pah to you, donovan. obviously you've never been to a gig in new york city. don't be swayed from seeing the nyc shows, kiddies. they're going to be brillian, i know it. i didn't catch the b+s shows the band played here last autumn, but according to trustworthy friends they were heartbreakingly special. stasia anastasia signoretta atlantic records international media relations 1290 avenue of the americas 24th floor new york, ny 10104 212.707.2619 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 'we're so disco we can't get on in this world anymore...' suede ------------- Original Text >From "donovan finn" , on 9/17/98 3:15 PM: FYI:Just got off the phone with the promoter of the Boston show. So far they have sold a little over 400 tickets out of 630 available. They anticipate a sellout by the first week of October if not earlier. If you are planning on going to this show, I suggest buying tickets sooner rather than later. A word of advice for any listees thinking of travelling to one or more shows who can't decide which show to see....it's been my experience that most bands *rarely* play their best shows in NYC. Not that it's impossible, but I'd say it's rare, possibly becaus of the pressure, real or imagined, of playing in a town so full of uber-critical writers and industry folk. Or maybe it's the water. -donovan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bcw4977 at xxx.edu Thu Sep 17 20:56:01 1998 From: bcw4977 at xxx.edu (brian) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:56:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: a message for shane from decatur GA Message-ID: sorry list folks, but i haven't got shane's email and i need to let him know something... la la la very embarassingly i didn't put enough postage on your tape and it was returned to my POBox today. sorry if you have been waiting by your mailbox (it's a tigermilk tape, for you list spies reading along even though you shouldn't be, don't you remember how excited YOU were to get YOUR copy? :) ). i'm going to drop it in a mailbox again tonight once i get a new clean envelope that doesn't say RETURN TO SENDER all over it. please have patience :) drop me a note to let me know you saw this please. ta ta. brian bcw4977 at is2.nyu.edu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tangent at xxx.net Thu Sep 17 17:36:27 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:36:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: tell it to the kids References: <199809171411.PAA01827@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Message-ID: <36013A8B.6A991FA8@lineone.net> kenny wrote: > Ps My 15 year old sister hates all 3 albums so we are safe for now! the number of 15 year olds in devon with a fondness for B&s is growing... a year and a half ago it was sniggers at the back of the class. then a few liked the badges, which grew to a partiality amongst the more sensible older ones for both Sinister and Tigermilk. see ink polaroids in the archives for some views on this... look for the 'speed' reference. an assembly with 'dylan' as the focal point further raised awareness, as did having kids design sleeves for the new record, although i'm so glad someone fibbed and said it was going to be called The Truth Abouth Youth and not twattybus. coming back from the summer away i am greeted by numerous excited youths telling me how they heard belle and sebastian on the radio ('playing songs for children' i smugly added, but they didn't get the joke...), on RADIO ONE, no less, and DURING THE DAYTIME!!! what a shcok. they even thought the tunes they heard were 'pretty good' which coming from a 15 year old student is pretty high praise. they'll probably still all buy the Mansun record instead, but what the hell. and hey, one of the smugger indie trendies even suggested that i would have to find someone new to like now. i wonder if he's on the list? detention tomorrow if he is. keep the faith, and keep shouting it from the rooftops, kids. the duke -- 'all of our dreams are dying of overdoses' Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bsanant at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 21:06:05 1998 From: bsanant at xxx.com (Birjinder Anant) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 13:06:05 PDT Subject: Sinister: Thanks to Katrina Message-ID: <19980917200606.517.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi, I just wanted to publicly thank Katrina for getting in touch with Matador on my behalf...A few minutes ago, I received a call from them informing me that they'll be sending the LP today via UPS. I didn't want to sound so harsh (if I was), but desperation was driving me desperate. Take care, Birjinder ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 21:28:22 1998 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:28:22 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Toronto Show Message-ID: >I just picked up my tickets for the Toronto show . . . and I'm buzzing >like a bug lamp. Wheee! I got mine too, called from the payphone at school to the evil Ticketmaster and paid a whopping $24 for one ticket (can you believe that?), but of course I didn't complain and I probably won't because it's Belle and Sebastian and just getting to see them is privilege enough...I wonder how fast the show will sell out? I called at 11 this morning to make sure I didn't miss out...but I'm sure I'll hear when all the tickets are gone. Now I'm just counting the days. Only 5 weeks and 2 days... truly, jessica pee ess. Is anyone else going to wear a name sticker? I feel that I must try and promote friendliness. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lorelei_27 at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 21:17:28 1998 From: lorelei_27 at xxx.com (lorelei tremelor) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 13:17:28 PDT Subject: Sinister: nyc shows Message-ID: <19980917201729.19002.qmail@hotmail.com> >From owner-sinister at majordomo.net Thu Sep 17 12:52:44 1998 >Received: from localhost (daemon at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA09206; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:30:52 +0100 >Received: by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:30:42 +0100 >Received: (from majordomo at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA09157 for sinister-outgoing; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:30:34 +0100 >Received: from guardian.wmg.com ([207.142.212.66]) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA09133 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:30:24 +0100 >Received: from gatekeeper.wmg.com by guardian.wmg.com > via smtpd (for envy.ph.ed.ac.uk [129.215.72.168]) with SMTP; 17 Sep 1998 19:30:23 UT >Received: from corp.wmg.com (smtplink.wmg.com [207.142.212.100]) > by gatekeeper.wmg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA05186 > for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:23:56 -0400 (EDT) anastasia's right! some friends of ours went to see b&s twice last year -once at angel oresanz, a remodeled CATHEDRAL -once at studio 54 (for a pbs special.) new york city rocks da house! lorraine >don't be swayed from seeing the nyc shows, kiddies. they're going to be >brillian, i know it. i didn't catch the b+s shows the band played here >last autumn, but according to trustworthy friends they were heartbreakingly >special. > >stasia > >anastasia signoretta >atlantic records >international media relations >1290 avenue of the americas >24th floor >new york, ny 10104 >212.707.2619 >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >'we're so disco we can't get >on in this world anymore...' >suede >------------- >Original Text >From "donovan finn" , on 9/17/98 3:15 PM: >FYI:Just got off the phone with the promoter of the Boston show. So far >they have sold a little over 400 tickets out of 630 available. They >anticipate a sellout by the first week of October if not earlier. > >If you are planning on going to this show, I suggest buying tickets sooner >rather than later. > >A word of advice for any listees thinking of travelling to one or more >shows who can't decide which show to see....it's been my experience that >most bands *rarely* play their best shows in NYC. Not that it's impossible, >but I'd say it's rare, possibly becaus of the pressure, real or imagined, >of playing in a town so full of uber-critical writers and industry folk. Or >maybe it's the water. > >-donovan > > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ciaran at xxx.net Thu Sep 17 20:42:00 1998 From: ciaran at xxx.net (ciaran at xxx.net) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:42:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: sinister Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980917204200.007c58d0@mail.clara.net> Hello, I am new to this. to Jim Schmidt buy BOC, forget the other two, also try thr aphex twin for fun!! the newb&s lp is grand ain't it, has ony one heard the divine comedy's new lp? ciaran +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ciaran at xxx.net Thu Sep 17 20:46:54 1998 From: ciaran at xxx.net (ciaran at xxx.net) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:46:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: www.muse.ie Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980917204654.0079d890@mail.clara.net> Hello, Here is a copy a B&S review ftom WWW.MUSE.IE read on. Ciaran............................. Belle & Sebastian - The Boy With The Arab Strap (Jeepster) You've never seen them all together in the one photograph, they've rarely played live up to now, and they don't engage in very many interviews. Yet somehow Belle & Sebastian's folk-pop cult has spread to the mind of every cognizant indie-kid and the heart of every romantic fool. Their enigma isn't built on myth though but rather a back catalogue of two fine albums (the first of which is impossibly rare) and a selection box of non-album track EPs, such as the delicious Arthur Lee-esque West Coast Soul and mariachi trumpets of "Dog On Wheels". All of this has pre-established a revered status for the third album from B&S. Just as well that it's their best one so far. "The Boy With The Arab Strap", a teasingly in-jokeish reference to their fellow Glaswegians, manages to locate some of principal songwriter Stuart Murdoch's finest tunes alongside four contributions from three of the other seven full-time B&S-ers. In the latter category, guitarist Stevie Jackson includes two hazy Sixties' pop songs, including his lonesome tale of being the only band member to miss being wined and dined by legendary A&R king "Seymour Stein". And "A Space Boy Dream" is the funky spoken-word and beats combo work of literary-bassist Stuart David a.k.a. Looper. The non-Murdoch contributions admittedly offer new and fresh dimensions to the B&S structure. But when the angelic boy wonder himself is on the sort of form that breeds the oscillating folk-bliss of the title track and the dizzy Northern Soul reverie of "Dirty Dream Number Two", then one must still acknowledge the creative drive behind them. Not to mention the cool all-hands-on-deck swagger of "Sleep The Clock Around" and "The Rollercoaster Ride", with their varying concoctions of bag-pipes, Moogs, strings, trumpets and divinely born pop melodies. You should buy this. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From donovan at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 21:56:14 1998 From: donovan at xxx.com (donovan finn) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:56:14 -0400 Subject: Sinister: hold on Message-ID: I think you all misconstued my point. I was simply trying to say that there are bound to be other good shows besides the NYC one, so all the people travelling shouldn't limit themselves in terms of where they go to see a gig. NYC, as much as we might like to think so, is not the center of the universe. As for Ken: Tickets for Boston can be procurred through Ticketmaster 617-864-EAST X 221 (credit cards) and at all Strawberries locations or at the box office at the Middle East, which is at 472 Mass Ave in Cambridge. For Joshua: The new album should be available at most good independent record shops, or most chains (Tower, Virgin, HMV, Best Buy, etc). Or via mailorder from us (Matador) or Amazon.com or CDNOW or the like. Good luck with the Tigermilk thing though. Absolute 100% final tour dates: 10/21 Boston Morse Auditorium In the Photo Resourse Center/BU Campus 10/23 Philly Trocadero 10/24 Toronto Opera House 10/26 Chicago Metro 10/28 Athens, GA 40 Watt 10/30 Washington DC Black Cat 11/1 NYC Supper Club (SOLD OUT) 11/2 NYC Supper Club -donovan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 22:00:04 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:00:04 -0400 Subject: Sinister: The matted hair in the Sinister drain pipe Message-ID: <36017852.43B568EB@bigfoot.com> Oh, you wacky Sinister kids, writing until your sensitive little fingers are splitting open. God bless you for staying on relevant and interesting subjects and not meandering off into "I got in a fight with my girlfriend. I should ask 700 strangers what I should do. They'll all be perfectly interested." Hooray for, um, us! Okay, you. So much to comment on...I've been a good little Sinister boy and have piled all of my insignificant comments into one convenient-to-delete post. > i think that we should all share how many copies we've made of B*S > albums, ep's, singles -- how many people we've infected with this > pleasant virus. i've got twelve, i think. 90-minute masterpieces of > IYFS and all the summer 97 EP's. and all my converts are growing in > their dedication. > I really shouldn't even bother responding to the "Indie vs. Huge record stores" topic, since Mr. Kitchen (sung to the tune of "Sister Christian") said what should be considered the final word. But I really don't think that it has anything to do with Indie stores being...better. It has to do with the quality of record store experience. I won't rehash the good points of David's letter (being that indie stores take chances with their stock that major stores never will, and that they'll promote local bands), but I'll add this: I don't know how things are in the UK, but here in the US, it's getting to be that every town is exactly the same. Same restaurants, same stores, same everything. Sure, when you go into a bigger record stores, you can get cheaper prices and bigger (major label) selection, but when you're sitting in a Best Buy, you could be anywhere in the country. Indie stores are unique, and that, among all the other points, is a good enough reason to give them my money. And trust me, I listen to enough major label and pop music that I've been laughed at more than a few times at every indie store in North Carolina. But I'd rather get laughed at my some indie store record clerk than get gawked at by some teenager in a Blockbuster shirt as I spell out B-E-L-L-E and S-E-B-A-S-T-I-A-N right before I try to explain where "Scotland" is. At an indie store, you'd probably get, "Oh, great album." Or maybe they'd laugh at you for listening to such sissy crap. But either way, at least they'd know what it was. > I've heard fans complaining when other people 'steal' 'their' bands- but it is > usually the old fans who complain, not the new ones. I'll risk being the voice > of reason by saying that most of us on the list would like to see B+S > successful, solvent, and remembered in 20 years time by more than just a bunch > of saddo record obsessives. > I try to convert everyone I know too. For the record, most of the bands that I truly love are all major label bands (or are at least well known), so I'm not saying that I hate huge bands. But what it comes down to is *who* else is listening to your favorite bands. I would love to see Belle and Sebastian debuting at #1 rather than Korn or Snoop Dog nee Doggy, BUT what that means is that you have to listen to people say things like, "Belle and Sebastian are my favorite band! I have their album, "Arab Strap" something." And you get more hecklers and talkers at the shows and let's not forget that you also get more people who will gladly go on for hours about how much they HATE Belle and Sebastian. And all I'm asking, and I think all anyone else arguing this point is asking, is this what you really want? Don't not try and "convert" people, but just realize that there are definite downsides to a favorite band of yours getting big. > I don't think there's really any need to worry about Belle and > Sebastian getting too famous, their music isn't really garish or > danceable or radio-ready enough to make any kind of real mainstream > impact, I don't think > Yeah, after I busted my ass with that poorly written excuse for a point, I completely agree with this above remark. I think they're already at the point where they will be remembered for a long time, but I don't really see them getting huge. Although I do think they'll get bigger than any of us think they will. > Does anyone know if the Matador vinyl is out yet? I haven't seen it at any > shops so I was wondering if there was a delay. > Yes, it's out. I was a total fucking Belle and Sebastian nerd and bought one yesterday. At the indiest of the indie shops no less (although the guy who sold it to me thought that the spoken word on Spaceboy Dream was done by the guy from Arab Strap). I walked around downtown with it under my arm thinking, "Yeah, that's right! Belle and Sebastian! On vinyl! Who's cool now?!", fully realizing how much of a geek that made me. It's quitting time. ~Reid -- "I told myself I'd head to someplace exotic, Portland maybe or Tacoma, Washington, but deep down I knew that once my bags were packed, I'd return to North Carolina." -David Sedaris +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From debbie.spiers at xxx.ca Thu Sep 17 18:42:16 1998 From: debbie.spiers at xxx.ca (debbie.spiers at xxx.ca) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 13:42:16 -0400 () Subject: Sinister: gloater Message-ID: hello from t.o.!!! everyone else seems to spew useless info or announcements on here, so whats stopping me? though i am only a three day old resident of the list. i awoke extra early this morn to trek downtown, worried that the b&s show would sell out before i arrived. i had viewed people from other countries announcing their intent on visiting t.o. for the show and i thought i'd be arriving to a long line up. foolish i arrived to an empty store and a ticket boy who needed me to write out the band name for correct spelling, as he could not locate the information. oh well, his ignorance, my joy. i left grinning stupidly. i also phoned my home away from home in england yesterday. it has been three weeks since i landed back in canada. i'm in uk withdrawl. i love reading all of your messages becasue you write with a hint of your superb accents. i hope some of you are at the t.o. show. though the performers will be accents enough for me. alright, i'm boring the bunch. bye for now. i gotta go to class. deb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From benjamin at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 22:20:08 1998 From: benjamin at xxx.com (Benjamin M. Poremski) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:20:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V2 #357 Message-ID: Lorraine put it mildly: > anastasia's right! some friends of ours went to see b&s twice last year > > - -once at angel oresanz, a remodeled CATHEDRAL Prior to the events of one summer eve in the 15th century it was in fact a synagogue down there on Norfolk Street in LOISADA, but the wicked Spanish King turned out the inhabitants and forked the deed over to the papacy, who decided on a luscious new look: everything was covered over with damask and white canvas and a bowling alley and a cool bath house went into the basement. A cathedral of degeneracy it was. Then a brash sculptor bought the place and wrecked it, and let crap indie bands treat it like a VFW Hall. > - -once at studio 54 (for a pbs special.) Ooh, I was at this one. What a sparkling night, Cristal and Cocaine, Henry Kissinger dancing with George Chinaglia, Bianca dancing with Gordon Bradley, Arne Carlson dancing with Shep Messing's Peruvian Honey Bear, Mingo. Blaze Starr was there. Andy was there. Supporting acts were the Trammp's and Vickie Sue Robinson, and wee Chris Geddes lay on a red leatherette settee with his head in Jackie Earl Haley's lap. A night not to be missed, or so we thought until Bela Sebastian took the stage in its Halston, wrecked on reds and whatnot. Abe Beame said in his autobiography that the police presence required to evacuate the surrounding area is what sent Gotham on the path to bankruptcy. > new york city rocks da house! Fuck yeah! Say, can anyone tape me a copy of the Don Cartagena LP 'Pussy Leche' that the kids at Hostos Community College released as a class project in 1994? Yours truly, Benjamin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alasala at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 00:14:26 1998 From: alasala at xxx.com (Anthony LaSala) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:14:26 -0500 Subject: Sinister: simple things In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Kerry, you have brought me out of the shadows (I have been lurking for a little while). "Simple Things" is really quite amazing. If only it was a minute longer.... And I'm sure the NYC show is going to be something special... It seems to me this city brings out the best in many bands. Some have mentioned how nice it is listening to TBWTAS while flying on an airplane. I suggest listening to it while on the New York subway. It's really quite amusing humming IIWNTC while staring at the hardened faces of Wall Street stock brokers. Since I work right near the Supper Club, in the once ultra-seedy now disgustingly Disney-fied Times Square, I will try to come up with a nice place to chat before or after our beloved B&S send there lovely tunes into the nyc night... -Anthony +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com Thu Sep 17 23:21:26 1998 From: Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com (Jim Schmidt) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 98 15:21:26 MST Subject: No subject Message-ID: <9808179060.AA906071174@mail.newtimes.com> someone wrote: according to my calculations, the "girl" referred to in hicktractor must reside somewhere in either the pacific isles or alaska, in order to be 5 hours behind the east cost. i write: or she's in new york and five hours behind the u.k. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From twinkle at xxx.net Thu Sep 17 23:32:27 1998 From: twinkle at xxx.net (petula) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 22:32:27 GMT Subject: Sinister: Toronto Show Message-ID: <199809172232.WAA00629@trapdoor.aracnet.net> Just some info: Got my tickets, they're $19.75 each with service charge if you go in person. As of 11 a.m. this morning, about 250 tickets had sold. Not sure if that's just all list people rushing to get theirs, but it would appear that it's selling fairly quickly. No support act printed on the ticket, but I had a peek as the info came on the pooter screen and it looks like the dreadful Spooky Reuben is opening. Perhaps he will do his famous yodelling song! That would be a treat. Anyone looking to stay in a hotel, I'd suggest the Executive Motor Hotel at 621 King St. W (at Bathurst), 416 504-7441. It's a short cab ride away and the cheapest I've seen (except for hostels of course). At roughly $75 (double occupancy) a night, it's a lot better than the $139 or so you tend to pay at places like Days Inn, etc., especially since parking is free. And you also get free coffee & donuts in the morning! The Legendary Jim Ruiz Group stayed there once and they were quite happy, so there's a vote of confidence for you. counting the days, elisabeth xx p.s. if anyone's interested, Fantastic Plastic Machine are playing a free show at Lava on Thursday, October 8th. You'd have to be mad to pass up this wonderful Japanese band. I think they kick Pizzicato Five in the butt, and I like P5, so that's saying a lot. p.p.s. Also, Air are playing at Lee's on Tues. October 20 for $12.50. What's with this flux of cool shows? A dry spell of months on end, and now this. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Fri Sep 18 23:47:19 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 23:47:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Lyric changing time. Message-ID: <199809172252.XAA18417@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> I was driving through Brighton this evening, with Twattybus on full volume on my measly stereo, getting strange looks from the crowds of pissed wankers queing up to dance to house music (oh how exciting), when something caught my attention. If you listen to the start of the album, really carefully, at a really high volume you'll hear that in fact the lyrics are not "He had a stroke at the age of 24, It could have been a brilliant career" But rather "He had a stoat at the age of 24, It would have made a brilliant cashmere" I can see the headlines now, "Number 1 indie album promotes animal cruelty" "Animal Liberation Front issues death threat on B&S" And while we are on this subject, surely Sarah is keeping that fox against its will in the sleeve pictures. And the song Fox in the Snow, poor thing you would have thought that someone could have given it a bed for the night. Any way I'm off now. 3 pointless mails in one day.....sorry! Jake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Gizmo451 at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 01:41:08 1998 From: Gizmo451 at xxx.com (Gizmo451 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:41:08 EDT Subject: Sinister: well... as a child i feel the need to vent.. Message-ID: <751534cf.3601ac24@aol.com> I almost laughed as I read the duke's email concerning us of the younger persuasion's attraction to belle and sebastian... Alas, I've never heard Tigermilk, and I even will go as far as to admit that when I first heard If you're feeling sinister, I was not instantly hooked. However, as I listened, I grew (slowly yet surely, indeed) to love them. I waited just as eagerly as the next fan for the new album.. and just as dutifully bought it the day it appeared in stores. But ... I am a mere 16.. and from my limited experience I have yet to encounter a fellow teen who loves the band as I do.. or even a teenager who has heard of them. Perhaps my social circle is not as broad as would be helpful...but then again I live in Memphis, TN... and so I'm not surprised. A side note ... does anyone know if the show in Athens Georgia will be 18+ only? That would surely sadden me.... as I'm already traipsing out that direction to take a looksie at a few colleges. as I listen to an excellent hellcat records compilation, --Lara +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vlass at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 02:15:03 1998 From: vlass at xxx.com (vlass at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 21:15:03 -0400 Subject: Sinister: toronto show, high fidelity, reviews, zines, wow Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980918011503.00c39d58@mail.interlog.com> i am jumping around excitedly in a circle with matthew, jessica and elisabeth about the belle and sebastian show! yay! looks like i was lucky too - i managed to snag my toronto tickets for the whopping low price of $17.50. it was at rotate this at queen and bathurst, and i was told they still have a whole bunch left... well, that was at noon -- perhaps by now they're gone. so, are we going to have a picnic before or after? i vote yes yes yes! elisabeth was right about all these exciting toronto shows -- low and ida are next wednesday at the horseshoe -- everyone, go! gee, there has been such an increase in postings these days! i can barely read through all of them before i discover another 30 or so kicking around in my in-box. hello to all the newcomers -- the bathroom is down the stairs, to your right and there are free drinks and cookies in the fridge by the door (am i the only one who likes cold cookies? mmmmm) who has read "high fidelity" by nick hornby? it's so much fun -- read this excerpt! "Nobody worries about kids listening to thousands -- literally thousands -- of songs about broken hearts and rejection and pain and misery and loss. The unhappiest people I know, romantically speaking, are the ones who like pop music the most; and I don't know whether pop music has caused this unhappiness, but I don know that they've been listening to the sad songs longer than they've been living the unhappy lives." does this apply to our "legion of bedroom saddo devotees"? come on, don't be shy to admit it! hmmm, what else -- oh yes, shameless plug.. the newest issue of my zine is out now. it's called -melt the snow- and i have a horribly pathetic q&a with mark from jeepster in it. i asked really stupid questions (i.e boring) so don't order it for that interview, order it for the other stuff! there's writing about.. hmm, lots of things. email me for details, okay? i really like trading too. guess what? i started university, joined the newspaper and my first assignment is to write a review for TWATTYBUS due.. umm.. tomorrow. sigh, i have to get cracking on that -- i just realized that it won't be a very *objective* review since i am hopelessly in love with the album.. anyway, if you're still here, thanks for reading this among the hundreds of other messages! teri xx ps... a big hello to all the #sinisterines i haven't seen lately. i hope you're all doing well, and maybe i'll see you soon :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Thessaly1 at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 02:17:20 1998 From: Thessaly1 at xxx.com (Thessaly1 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 21:17:20 EDT Subject: Sinister: chickfactor Message-ID: hi there kids! i met a wonderful girl last weekend who explained to me what the song chickfactor is about. it is the name of an indie magazine run from new york and the girl really likes belle and sebastian. this girl i met had gone from la to new york to see b and s last summer and met the "chickfactor" chick there at the show. supposedly she is really big on the indie scene there in nyc. so the 5 hours spoken of is the time difference from the uk to new york. the song is about her and the magazine. too bad i forgot the name of chickfactor girl! jennifer trying to book a flight to chicago for the show there now that i have somewhere to stay! :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bjw at xxx.edu Fri Sep 18 02:56:59 1998 From: bjw at xxx.edu (B. Williamson) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: signing on this evening Message-ID: Hello all, another new listee here, I've been listening for a while, and chose this moment to pop in. I'm Brian from Seattle, and I've been listening to B&S for a while, since about the time IYFS came out here on The Enclave. I first heard of the band as a member of the Stephen Duffy group - Duffy apparently bought something like 20 copies of Tigermilk and gave them all away to his friends. Since then, I've been noticing similarities between selected B&S and Lilac Time titles. How about these few: Tigermilk Tiger Tea The Rollercoaster Ride The Rollercoaster Song Paper Boat Paper Boat Anyway, love the new album but I'm not sure that I don't like IYFS better. Cheers, Brian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mphintz at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 03:32:56 1998 From: Mphintz at xxx.com (Mphintz at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 22:32:56 EDT Subject: Sinister: NYC Final Picnic Plans Message-ID: Hello lovelies, Honestly, I do not have much to say in this update than what has been said before. All dates, times and places, etc., are the same as what has been written previously. In any case, here it is again: Date: Sunday, September 20th Time: 2 pm. Place: East River Park, 6th Street and FDR Drive Info Line: (917) 337-4498 (for last minutes changes, rain plans, etc.) I have been anxiously checking the weather forecasts each morning, and it seems that we will have a beautiful day for the picnic. A boombox has been volunteered (thank you Brian), and from the looks of it, we will have plenty of sugary snacks on hand. Don't forget to bring activities, a la soccer balls, Uno, Twister, etc. Perhaps I will meet some of you Saturday evening at the Lucksmiths, et al, show at Shelflife. For more information, go to www.shelflife.com. So, this is it, the final update... Now everyone has to show up for the picnic. The hard planning part is done; we can sit back in the sun and relax now. Cheers :-) Living and loving Matthew +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From leggattn at xxx.edu Fri Sep 18 04:02:18 1998 From: leggattn at xxx.edu (N Leggatt) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: new album Message-ID: Hello. I'm a new subscriber to this group. I love the new album but have to say I much prefer Sinister. Does anyone else think Chickfactor and Seymour Stein sound like John Cale-esque Velvet Underground? Also I read somewhere that Spaceboy Dream was a "blatant rip-off" of the Velvets' "The Gift" but I don't see it (they're both spoken, but...). anyhoo. N __ "Give me your tired, your poor I'll piss on 'em That's what the Statue of Bigotry says" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cc299 at xxx.ca Fri Sep 18 03:42:01 1998 From: cc299 at xxx.ca (Mary Ann de Leon) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 22:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Toronto Show In-Reply-To: <199809171658.AA02011@interlock.randomhouse.com> Message-ID: I just ordered my ticket today for the B&S Toronto show.... I was thinkin of setting up a meet for listers who are going to the show....so to all who are going on the Oct.24th show...please send me an email... On Thu, 17 Sep 1998, Crooker, Matthew wrote: > > I just picked up my tickets for the Toronto show . . . and I'm buzzing > like a bug lamp. > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erinlew at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 06:00:11 1998 From: erinlew at xxx.com (Erin Lewis) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 22:00:11 PDT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19980918050012.28746.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey kids, I don't think I'm going to post again for weeks, because I want to save skimming time for everyone else. But today, I have some things to say, with the important stuff in caps: 1. ACID HOUSE, I believe, is one of three movies adapted from Irvine Welsh novels. I know that Trash Can Sinatras played some soundtrack bits to another movie in the trilogy, Marabou Stork Nightmares. I don't know how much this helps... 2. I *love* the Sinister letters from those whose native language is not English! Particularly the FRENCH letters make me happy, like I am reading something the fox from "The Little Prince" would write. 3. In "SEYMOUR Stein", I believe the girl is in NYC and he is in London - there is an exact five-hour lag time there. 4. Queen Bee Janine will laugh when she gets my tape tree addition - one of the first songs is called "Why STING is Such an Idiot", by Allen Clapp and His Orchestra. And for the record, I own the soundtrack to "Brimstone and Treacle". Urgh. 5. Who can guess where CHRISHMUSH - aka Chris Leonard - stole his moniker? I love that movie so... I love you all, and nighty-night... -Miss Erin, who is working on her anagrams ever so hard! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snekyscp at xxx.net Fri Sep 18 06:20:31 1998 From: snekyscp at xxx.net (snekyscp at xxx.net) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 22:20:31 -0700 Subject: Sinister: random topic, this has absolutely nothing to do with the list Message-ID: <3601ED9F.C1B8B505@prodigy.net> hello fellow b&s fans, i'm applying to study in the uk for a year (i go to a university in california) and i'm having trouble deciding which university to choose. i've narrowed my choices down (yeah right) to university of birmingham, bristol, essex, exeter, kent, lancaster, leeds, sheffield, york, and st. andrews. i know that's a lot, but if anyone can privately email me (so this mailing list doesn't get too out of line) and tell me about the academics and social scene at those places, i would greatly appreciate it. thank you. susie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From suzsch at xxx.net Fri Sep 18 07:09:13 1998 From: suzsch at xxx.net (Suzanne Schroeder) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:09:13 -0500 Subject: Sinister: catching up on my back log. I can't keep up with you people....please God tell me I don't have work tomorrow.... Message-ID: <199809180604.BAA20835@smtp1.mailsrvcs.net> > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:30:55 +0000 > From: "Sweet & Tender Hooligan" > Subject: Sinister: Kiss Chase > > well i think I want to add my two cents about the album now > > the best trax are, in my humble opinion of course, IIWNTC and TBWTAS yes they are > all of the rest are brilliant except for (IMHO again) the rather > dissapointing Rollercoaster Ride. seymore stein does it for me. > And the drumming in Dirty Dream #2 gets really, really annoying after > a while This song has grown into one of my favorites on the whole album. i want to be nit pickey and say the only thing I don't like are a few of the transitions within the song. I like the loudness of the song, if you want to call it that. The sound of the song reminds me of something very 70's. Almost like a goofy montage scene in a movie where this music would be playing over a bunch of love scenes. Nothing serious, but people playing volleyball on the beach and getting hit on the head by a ball and everyone starts laughing type scenes. > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:03:45 -0600 (MDT) > From: Krissy > Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V2 #341 > > I met Morrissey! > I met him! > > I'm just so excited, I have to tell everyone. Just roll your eyes at me > and delete away. And have fun, everyone lucky enough to live in a B&S > approved city, and will see them. (sigh... jealousy.) Unfortunatly, I live in a Vanilla Ice approved city. He's been here twice in the past couple of years on tour. That is all I get. I'm trying to make you feel bad. Is it working? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From suzsch at xxx.net Fri Sep 18 06:57:14 1998 From: suzsch at xxx.net (Suzanne Schroeder) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 00:57:14 -0500 Subject: Sinister: biggest cracker in town Message-ID: <199809180552.AAA03246@smtp1.mailsrvcs.net> > Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 08:27:38 PDT > From: "Corpora Arenacea" > Subject: Sinister: Someday soon I will laugh right in the face of the poison moon > > Speaking of homies: > It's damn dangerous to listen to Belle and Sebastian in the ghetto. I > was dropping off my date from last night at her building in DC and we > decided to share a romantic cuddle + smoke on the hood of my car and I'd > had "The Boy with the Arab Strap" in the CD player which I left playing > with the windows down, which was good and perfect for a little while > until I realized that I was in fact in the middle of the ghetto > listening to the whitest music imaginable, getting stared at like a > Martian in pedal-pushers. I half expected some seven-foot-tall fellow to > stride up and say "Do you mind if we dance witcho dates?" It was at > that point that I thought it perhaps wiser to pop in Canibus or Lauryn > Hill but didn't want to really wreck the mood so I settled for K-Ci and > JoJo (not really, but I did turn it way down). Yup. I sometimes feel a bit strange driving around town with either that album or a good chunk of my CDs going and the windows rolled down then pulling up next to someone who really has the bass cranked on something. but I sit here and realize that most of these people are listening to Match Box 20, so i shouldnt feel bad, right? At least I'm not trying to pull off the faux black thing like Jenny Jones and Ricki Lake: "Hello. Today we have guests who are not all that. Their friends are here to inform them they are Hoochie Mamas. Please give it up for Stephanie!" I know I don't get it, and I do a service to the community by not trying to do it. Sincerely, Suzanne "Goth Queen" Schroeder +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 09:29:18 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:29:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Kings of Convenience in metal shocka! Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22230AE6@server1.HITEntertainment.com> The NME has a little section in the middle of this week's Korn interview (urgh!) which provides "A Belle And Thebathtian Fan's Guide To New Metal". Lucky us, eh? For what it's worth, I used to be much more a fan of heavy stuff in my youth - I used to buy everything Silverfish put out, sang along to Extreme Noise Terror, and whooped with delight whenever I noticed that Fudge Tunnel were supporting my favourite fraggle band of the week. But something tells me that we're not really missing out this time around...do correct me if I'm wrong, as it'd be quite nice not to see the word "rock" as a profanity - and what an opportunity to confess your more disturbing metal leanings... Those of you who missed out on last night's superb show by the Kings of Convenience (denizens of Mr Love Pants poetry emporium may have already been fortunate enough to sample them), erm, missed out in a big way. Having stormed the Manchester music thing, their triumphal return was breathtaking, managing to sound like a down at heel Stereolab playing musical chess with Nick Drake (in the best possible way, of course). Catch them if you can, popkids - we might just have something special on our hands... The first band that B&S ever reminded me of was the Beautiful South. Can you guess which song? Mark xxxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NeilD at xxx.uk Fri Sep 18 09:55:54 1998 From: NeilD at xxx.uk (Neil Dewhurst) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:55:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Everything under the sun Message-ID: <10714C6FC248D2119ED700805F7DF75503BB83@NCMSERVER> Sometimes starting is the hardest thing... Anyway, a week and a half since The Shepherd's Bush soiree (a big hand to Mr Kevan Cooke please everyone for being my benefactor), and now I'm back at work sifting through the opinions of countless unknown (to me) people. Here, in no particular order, are some bon mots from me on some of the subjects. 1. The gig was fine, just fine. Anyone moaning about waiting needs to learn a little patience. If you're in London, you can practice by trying to get anywhere on the Northern Line. 2. The Molartoaster Guide is a lovely, lovely, dream of a song - the sort of drifting track that can only ever be put at the end of an album (OX4 by Ride, This river never will run dry by Moose, and Sleepy song by the Tindersticks close albums in a similarly drawn out way.) 3. Manchester would be good, although I feel that not only the pigeons in Piccadilly Gardens deserve to do. There are a lot of people hanging around there who frankly the world could manage without. Also it would give me time to pop into the studenty bizareness that is Affleck's Palace on my way to Vinyl Exchange, which brings me to point 4 4. Indie shops or chain stores? Indie stores are sometimes superb (Vinyl Exchange) or terrible (most others). My favourite of all time was a place called Revolution records in Windsor. The smallest shop I've ever been in, it featured a host of (to me at the time) unknown treasures. The advantage of chains is that they sometimes are more likely to stock what you're after. They also exist so your parents can buy you CDs for christmas without being too intimidated by scary record shop people who've listened to absolutely every single piece of music every recorded anywhere by anyone in any language. 5. I guess that's it. My boss is a vulture, hovering over me, asking me if I've done this or that, or whatever. Anyone got any advice on how I can stay sane, supercede him, or exact revenge for the fact that he does absolutely nothing at all for the whole working day? (except try to design a 3D company for our Webshite) 6. There are only 5 points +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From xav at xxx.uk Fri Sep 18 10:07:00 1998 From: xav at xxx.uk (Mark Crutch) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re: B&S PEZ MACHINES Message-ID: <199809180907.KAA25097@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> > Ummmm, hi I'm new, so please be gentle with me if I do this wrong..... Looks alright to me. > Anyway, I think B&S Pez dispensers would be BRILLIANT! I collect those silly > little plastic things anyway, but I am running out of ones to search > for........*swoon*.....how very exciting this would be........ummmm, ok well I'm off now..... Well, I wouldn't say I'm a collector, but I do have three or four of these that I use in rotation. The best thing was a couple of years ago when they produced bodies to go with them - but I only ever got three bodies, so one of my dispensers has to go naked. If anyone knows anywhere still selling Pez Body Parts, pleeeease let me know. BTW, although I would never buy any music from Woolies they are the best sourse I've found of Pez, in the UK - so all credit to them for that ;) Cheers, Xav -- xav at compsoc.man.ac.uk http://www.compsoc.man.ac.uk/~xav "It hath whirred into life" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 10:28:43 1998 From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:28:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re: B&S PEZ MACHINES Message-ID: <009d01bde2e6$ba4c7410$4429c22b@bond.broadcast> >BTW, although I would never buy any music from Woolies they are the best >sourse I've found of Pez, in the UK - so all credit to them for that ;) > You should be supporting the small, independent Pez stores. These Mom 'n' Pop stores care about the pez, and are driven by enthusiasm not money. This means they can stock alternative pez that the big chains, such as Woolies, wouldn't touch for fear of making a loss. Also, in the indy stores you can find the early pez, which were much better than the new stuff... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Sep 18 10:08:40 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:08:40 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Saucy Prize Post Message-ID: <01bde2e3$ee9779c0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> First of all, Hastings is the secondhand book capital of Britain. I got two original Skinhead books and my prized copy of Slade in Flame in Hastings. I gave the Skinhead ones away because they were unpleasantly racist (as opposed to pleasantly racist), but I've still got the Slade one - "They're still warm, she must be around here somewhere!" said Noddy. Secondly, John Peel just opened his World Service programme with "a melancholy moment from Belle and Sebastian", namely "Brill Brill Brilliant Career". Hurrah for Mister Peel! Thirdly, I recently won the right to be saucy and irrelevant without any grumbling form Honey aka Honey (there are new people on the list). Here goes: The curiously attractive cabin boy Christopher Alexander Leonard informs us that Trousers has got a semi-stiffy at about ear height, but he leaves it at that. "Semi-stiify" is such a vague expression, Christopher, can't you be more specific? For example, what is the semi-stiffy's ratio of flaccidity/stiffiness? 50:50? 40:60? 25:75? In simpler, non-scientific terms, is it sticking up a bit or is it dangling down but not completely? What's the angle of the dangle? Also, is it on the way up, or is it on the way back down again? Or is it just hovering inconclusively, a bit like a water divining rod? Should that be "dividing"? Everywhere I go, the kids want to know. Give us the low down on Trousers' tumescence. I'm sure this kind of thing doesn't go on in Stevenage. End of sauce. last night, my wife and I had a lengthy conversation about matters B&S list, such as record shops and bands getting bigger (so to speak) and the concept of real fans. I won't bore you with the details, but I was particularly amused by one phrase that cropped up in the course of our debate: Duke Holliday. Well, I thought it was funny. Also, Arantxa would like to know the title of an old Status Quo song that begins with the line "never had a woman" or "never hurt a woman". Can anyone help? There, that's enough of my domestic difficulties. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From z2d71t.044 at xxx.it Fri Sep 18 10:57:04 1998 From: z2d71t.044 at xxx.it (Massimiliano Bernardini) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:57:04 +0200 Subject: Sinister: hurried criticism Message-ID: <36022E6F.22AC34B5@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Hi sinisters, reading e-mails in this week I was astonished at frequently judgments about TBWAS, I think saying -i don't like this song- after only 3-4 days of listening is not possible. i don't want to say B&S always hit the center (although this is true according to me), but i say TBWAS is more difficult than other ones, it isn't immediate and so you've to give it the time to wrap up your mind. then it will filter through the pores of your skin and you'll be totally possessed. this is what happened me. cheers, Passi. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gmckay at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 11:07:58 1998 From: gmckay at xxx.com (Gillian McKay) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:07:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: group get together Message-ID: <360230FE.3814@roisin.ayo.dec.com> just thought i'd put in my 2 cents about the planned get together. while watching the 'soul night' thingy on BBC2 the other week, there was a video diary about a soul weekend which takes place somewhere in england (help me someone if anyone saw this - was it caister?). anyway, all these young mad people got together in this caravan park and spent the weekend drinking, dancing and having fun. i thought this would be a great idea for a list get together coz we would all have accommodation and could plan whatever we wanted. don't think i've got the time to organise something like that but maybe someone has..? on the record shop debate, so desperate was i for a copy of twattybus that i went to kilmarnock (the nearest place to where i live) and the only indie shop had sold out of their 9.99 copies (this was on the tuesday) so i had to grudginly give hmv 12.49 for a copy coz i couldn'y wait any longer. hope you can forgive me for this, when i live in glasgow, i always try to get my stuff in fopp or missing coz i think they deserve my money more. this is more than i've written in the past year!!! gillian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jonc at xxx.uk Fri Sep 18 11:46:44 1998 From: jonc at xxx.uk (Jonathan Caryl) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:46:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Monica Queen Message-ID: <018101bde2f1$a0bdc930$3396c9c2@jonc-pc.owl.co.uk> Hi all, This is one of those 'whatever happened to' questions: whatever happened to Thrum? I guess we all know that Monica Queen (on lazy line painter jane) used to be in the rather fine Thrum. They had just one album 'Rifferama', but the last time I saw them play the Edinburgh Venue (I think it was late '96) she said that they had another album recorded, and were just trying to sort out legal hastles with their record company to get it released. Did it ever see the light of day; if so, where can I buy it, if not, why not? Jonathan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tim.groves at xxx.uk Fri Sep 18 11:55:00 1998 From: tim.groves at xxx.uk (Tim Groves) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:55:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: group get together Message-ID: soul weekends are quite sad affairs - the music is awful and bears no resemblance to B&S - how about meeting at a scootering weekend with REAL (northern) soul. I think we should all meet up at a tacky, westworld like Butlins. Bognor Regis is like another planet tim gmckay at roisin.ayo.dec.com on 18/09/98 11:07:00 To: sinister at majordomo.net cc: (bcc: Tim Groves/Interfocus) Subject: Sinister: group get together Date: Fri, Sep 18, 1998 11:07 AM Subject: Sinister: group get together just thought i'd put in my 2 cents about the planned get together. while watching the 'soul night' thingy on BBC2 the other week, there was a video diary about a soul weekend which takes place somewhere in england (help me someone if anyone saw this - was it caister?). anyway, all these young mad people got together in this caravan park and spent the weekend drinking, dancing and having fun. i thought this would be a great idea for a list get together coz we would all have accommodation and could plan whatever we wanted. don't think i've got the time to organise something like that but maybe someone has..? on the record shop debate, so desperate was i for a copy of twattybus that i went to kilmarnock (the nearest place to where i live) and the only indie shop had sold out of their 9.99 copies (this was on the tuesday) so i had to grudginly give hmv 12.49 for a copy coz i couldn'y wait any longer. hope you can forgive me for this, when i live in glasgow, i always try to get my stuff in fopp or missing coz i think they deserve my money more. this is more than i've written in the past year!!! gillian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------- Received: from envy.ph.ED.AC.uk by polson.fabrik.com with SMTP (Fabrik F07.3-000) id SINN.3856626 at polson.fabrik.com ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:16:26 +0100 Received: from localhost (daemon at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA01677; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:12:45 +0100 Received: by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:12:40 +0100 Received: (from majordomo at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA01654 for sinister-outgoing; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:12:32 +0100 Received: from ns1.digital.fr (ns1.digital.fr [193.56.15.3]) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA01650 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:12:26 +0100 Received: from mail.vbo.dec.com (eur-rmc.vbo.dec.com [16.36.208.33]) by ns1.digital.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA24897 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:12:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from roisin.ayo.dec.com (roisin.ayo.dec.com [16.182.0.38]) by mail.vbo.dec.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA01910 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:11:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from edzell.ayo.dec.com by roisin.ayo.dec.com (5.65v4.0/1.1.10.5/01Apr97-0932AM) id AA06449; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:11:55 +0100 Message-Id: <360230FE.3814 at roisin.ayo.dec.com> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:07:58 +0100 From: Gillian McKay Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: B&S Mailing List Subject: Sinister: group get together Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: Gillian McKay X-List: Sinister ---------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grabutcho at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 12:12:07 1998 From: grabutcho at xxx.com (Julien Boeldieu) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 04:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: hard on for Jesus Message-ID: <19980918111207.6300.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com> Hello everyone :) Speaking of hallucinations... Am I crazy or it's a sheep that you can hear after 3 minutes and 51 seconds of "Sleep the clock around" ? Or a cow ? a pig (sooooooo... pigs would be able to sing both "Staying alive" and "Sleep the clock around") ? a horse ? an elephant ? Is it the hidden 9th member of Belle and Sebastian ? Kerry, you're right, "Simple things" is brilliant. It remind me of "Le pastie de la bourgeoisie" -- but not so majestic. By the way, could somebody tell me what is Catcher in the rye mentioned in this song ? I guess it's a book, but I'm not sure. I think I found the chord for "The boy with the arab strap" : G C D. I'm not sure, but that works on my keyboard. Tell me if you don't agree. Wow ! Only three simple chords for such a great song... That's my definition for the word "genius". Byebye, Julien == "Je ne remets jamais � demain ce que je peux faire le surlendemain" ** Alphonse Allais ** _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Fri Sep 18 12:21:32 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (rap101) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:21:32 +0100 () Subject: Sinister: Debate Message-ID: Anyone else adore A Summer Wasting? Re. one of the current topics of debate: IF b&s are suddenly cool and getting chart or whatever, and people buy their records to boost their indie cred, then so what? These people will either grow to genuinely like them (and I defy most people not to) or they will leave them festering at the back of their CD collection, which does no harm to the band as they've got a record sale out of it, and no harm to the fans. There are many reasons to be into a band, but the thing that will always keep at least some people interested throughout the ups and downs of popularity is the MUSIC. If you love the music, nothing else matters. I don't think I would even notice if b&s had a number one single, except that I'd get to hear it a lot on the radio. And hurrah for that. Luv Archel x ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 12:49:58 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:49:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Going on about how great everybody is Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22230AF0@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Me being selfish again, but... To all the people going to the NY picnic - since I'm going to be coming to see you all in 45 days, why not go to my website, print out the rather unflattering and porky photo of me, and sit it beside you as you picnic in East River Park..perhaps I can go in goal when the soccer kicks off - no-one else ever seems to want to... Please, please don't take this the wrong way, but being on the list has pretty much revolutionised my bigoted, unfair, but at least partially justified view of Americans. Over here in dear ol' Blighty, we don't always get to see your best sides (viz the tourists, for a start), and there's a fair amount of resentment and dislike in some quarters - you should have seen the joy in the pub when Iran beat you in the World Cup... ;-) But it's been eye-opening to hear from so many people who've blown my prejudices out of the water. Particularly, those over the water don't seem to be nearly as preoccupied as us with what's cool, what's the right way to behave etc. Maybe all that shit's rife with you too, but it doesn't seem to come through in your postings, which is what matters from this point of view. So basically, I hope I don't sound too sycophantic, but thanks for the revelation, which in turn makes me wonder how guilty I am of all of the above. I can't wait to meet many of you in New York City - I know I'll be well looked after... If You're Feeling Sinister is best album by Belle and Sebastian. Sorry to post twice in a day - and apologies for the lack of B&S (yet!) on my website... Mark xxx p.s. Calling Ms Schaffenberger...?donde esta usted?... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nickdastoor at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 13:38:31 1998 From: nickdastoor at xxx.com (Nick Dastoor) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 05:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: What came first - L!VE TV or P!O!P! ? Message-ID: <19980918123831.21399.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:00:09 +0100 (BST) From: Honey Subject: Sinister: stuart murdoch the insect hater >I have to report, hastily, on the Is A Cricket Not A Pear? video, >which as Katrina tastily told us UK people, was on Alternative Nation >on MTV on Tuesday night. I'm surprised noone else mentioned it, but >I completely forgot I'd taped it too, and did a little shuffle with >the remote control last night. I too saw the video for Isn't Cricket just for Squares, but am ashamed to admit I missed the Jacques Cousteau opening. Little was I to know it would be the first song of the night, so I daredevilishly thought I could catch the end of Pocket Topless Darts on L!VE TV and then switch over in time. After flicking, imagine my shock when a channel integrity fault on the television led to an apparent scene of a bare breasted Chris Geddes missing double top completely and hitting Sarah on the bottom. I assumed this was why she was hiding up a tree for the rest of the video whilst Mick rushed to defend her honour on the ramparts. It was a lot of fun. Nice to see Isobel's big expensive lion again, too. My friends that I went to Shepherd's Bush with thought she seemed a bit mean and moody, but I told them it was a nervous reaction and that she was just a big baby. The lion should clinch the argument. Mike Reid wrote: >I think they're already at the point where they will be remembered for a long time, but I don't > really see them getting huge. Although I do think they'll get bigger > than any of us think they will. Reid - how can you think they will get bigger than you think they will? That's crazeee talk. Nick xxx _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Sep 18 14:02:37 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:02:37 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Boring post, sorry. Well I'm ILL you pooheads! Message-ID: <01bde304$9c886240$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Once, twice, three times a Sinister laydeee wrote: >La caza de amor es de altanería - Gil Vincente. > >Like I know what that means. The hunt of love is the...? Hunting for love is an aspect of falconry, I think, with a hint of arrogant disdain thrown in for good measure. That'll really impress the teacher. Ask him if he wants to see your jesses after class. You could also point out its remarkable similarity to the immortal line: "If I was a seagull, would you love me as an eagle" Stick with that book, it's a good one, well worth the effort. And it's "foretold", not "announced". Also, Steve, thank you for calling me sexy, it's true. But I only combine loads of answers together like that sometimes. For instance, if it weren't for this bit at the bottom, this would be a reply to one message only that only really concerns one person. Perhaps I'd better wait and see if anything else crops up before sending it... Well, nothing has cropped up, so here goes. Title still applies. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chall5 at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 14:06:28 1998 From: chall5 at xxx.com (c hall) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 06:06:28 PDT Subject: Sinister: TWATTYBUS review Message-ID: <19980918130628.28565.qmail@hotmail.com> Lars Ulrich, drummer for Metallica, has to be the crankiest musician alive (at least, he used to be). His trademark in interviews is to rip apart every band in the Western world, including metal ones. In fact, for a while there, I thought the only group he really liked was Diamond Head. (He actually went so far as to moonlight as liner-notes scribe for their Behold The Beginning retrospective.) And I seem to recall him saying that the video for REM's "Shiny Happy People" made him want to smash his television to pieces. Now, for some sick reason, I began to use Mr. Oilrig as a sort of music measuring tool -- as in, "Wow, Lars would really hate this song!" And then I got to thinking that it might be a fun idea to make a tape called "Songs That Would Probably Drive Lars Ulrich Fuckin' Bananas!" The list would include well, yes, "Shiny Happy People," but also Kate Bush's "Wuthering Heights," Madonna's "I'm Going Bananas," Roxanne Shante's "Roxanne's Revenge," DeBarge's "Be My Lady," Suede's "Sleeping Pills" and, most definitely, the Roches' "Ing." The point I'm trying to make here, is that music lovers often conceive of musical irritation or obnoxiousness or drawing lines in the sand as the province of brutish metallers, punkers or sometimes, if they thought hard enough about it, even gangsta rappers. Indeed, those are the very qualities so frequently cited in defense of the value of such music. But I'd like to posit that, while most of the above songs for Lars' tape have listeners that like to feel pretty and witty and gay, we shouldn't downplay their power to irritate the shit out of, say, a world-hating art student or a reality-obsessed Source reader. The shiniest, happiest song can produce as extreme an effect as the loudest, snottiest screed. How this relates to Belle and Sebastian is that I would definitely include "Judy and the Dream of Horses" (the last song off their breakthrough album, If You're Feeling Sinister) on Lars' tape. The title alone is enough to make me laugh out loud at how Lars wouldn't even give it the time of day. In fact, scanning the titles of a Belle and Sebastian album reminds me of paging through those Scholastic Weekly Reader catalogues that sold books like "Freckle Juice" and posters that read something like "Everyone Has Bad Days" and were adorned with pictures of kittens caught up in yarn. Regard: "Spaceboy Dream," "The Boy with the Arab Strap," "Simple Things," "The Rollercoaster Ride" and "Ease Your Feet Into The Sea," all of which are from the new album. If any band could set the silliest book title I've ever heard ("Frosty: A Raccoon To Remember") to music, it would be Belle and Sebastian. Of course, there are also titles like "It Could Have Been A Brilliant Career," "Is It Wicked Not To Care" and "Dirty Dream #2," so I don't want to misrepresent the band. In fact, they rarely radiate a childlike cuteness the way Papas Fritas or Shonen Knife sometimes do. But their songs do access the quality of those obnoxious songs about clowns and whatnot with which your niece or nephew (or son or daughter) return from their first few weeks at kindergarten. Not in terms of content, but in their simple humability, their sheer insistence. Apart from a stray Shante or Missy Elliott rap, the songs of Belle and Sebastian are the only ones I teach to my friends who don't listen to music. Teach to sing, that is. I have no idea what Stuart Murdoch and company are singing about, and I'm not all that interested. Besides, my friends are only hip about hair and clothes, so I'd have no one with whom to discuss their content. The primary fascination Belle and Sebastian hold for me is that for all their verse-chorus-verses and rhyming stanzas, these aren't songs, but rather viruses. They're insidious carriers that get under your skin and infect your hum reflex. Symptoms include bobbing your head from side to side to the beat and doing Eddie Murphy's White People Dance. Usually, this menace is achieved by repeating lines with slight variations, making it easier to break down your immune system. From "It Could Have Been A Brilliant Career": "Painting pines (vines?) in a school that was too well-known/ Painting pines with a friend that had gone before." From "Sleep The Clock Around": "It takes more than this to make sense of the day/ Yeah, it takes more than milk to get rid of the taste." From "Ease Your Feet Into The Sea": "Stay with us 'til we get old/ Stay with us 'til somebody decides to go." If you have the slightest weakness for their intimate, AM radio-influenced folk-pop, their tunes will barge into your life and paralyze your mouth into a Cheshire grin for the duration. (I happen to be in this deliriously happy category.) But, if all you see around you is ugliness, the catchiness will abrade like Chinese Water Torture. How's your forehead now, Lars? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mrswanky at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 15:07:59 1998 From: mrswanky at xxx.com (Steven Jay Goldman) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:07:59 EDT Subject: Sinister: Athens Athens Athens! Message-ID: <19980918140803.3717.qmail@hotmail.com> Heya fellow list people... Seeing how B&S are being so gracious as to hit the South on this whirlwind tour of the States, how about we greet them en masse by meeting up pre-show for a drink? I'm open to suggestions, since there may be some folks not old enough to partake. The Taco Stand is great for those strapped for cash, and Gyland's makes a mean quesadilla; the Bluebird is great vegetarian food, and The Grill...well...the Grill is just da bomb. Burgers and malts at their best. Any ideas? Forward them on to me, as well as letting me know who wants to make a gathering out of all this, and I can serve as the coordinator-of-sorts... On a few side notes, if you've never heard the Squirrel Nut Zippers (which seems a little unlikely by now), from what I hear, their new album blows the pants off of the swing/ska craze going on now with the bands like the Cherry Poppin' Daddies and Big Bad Voodoo Daddy. Apparently, a lot of critics panned it for taking their music in other directions than what fashion is dictating... Ah, well, I don't care, I'll still see them Saturday when they're in town... Also, anyone have a copy of the opening credits song from "The Greatest American Hero"? I've been thinking about that here and there, and it's getting maddening singing it to myself without ever getting to hear it... One last thing...for those of you either in Atlanta, or GOING to be in Atlanta before Halloween, Dad's Garage (a local theater company) is premiering "Cannibal! The Musical!" by Trey Parker and Matt Stone (the creators of South Park). Tickets are $12-$15, and it runs from Sept. 18th until Halloween night. It's a musical COMEDY about the only person to ever be convicted of cannibalism. According to the director, it's a bit like "Friday the 13th, Part II" meets "Oklahoma!", so make of that what you will. Email me for any of the above stuff, and keep it fuzzy, bunnies! --Steve mrswanky at hotmail.com http://tswww.cc.emory.edu/~sgold06/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cleonard at xxx.COM Fri Sep 18 15:22:23 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:22:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Saucy Prize Post Message-ID: Scrubber Miller: >Thirdly, I recently won the right to be saucy and irrelevant without any grumbling >form Honey aka Honey (there are new people on the list). >Here goes: >The curiously attractive cabin boy Christopher Alexander Leonard informs us that >Trousers has got a semi-stiffy at about ear height, but he leaves it at that. "Semi->stiify" is such a vague expression... >... >... It's hard for me. To remember, it was rubbery. Very nice indeed. I didn't look that closely cos I was giggling and jumping foot to foot, pointing at it whilst not really registering where I was or what I was doing.. Oon wasn't impressed. All those naked elephants walking about must taint a girls perception. It was definitely pointing up upwards but a bit flaccid at the end, like a melting submarine. But since he was sitting back it was kind of like the bath effect when it floats upwards with no effort. And without a bath. It's like you get two magnets, and magnetically float a squirming meat train. 6/10 Christopher Alexander Leonard +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Fri Sep 18 15:29:02 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:29:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Trouble and Strife Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7B29@COR-EXG1> PJ Miller wrote : >"never hurt a woman". Can anyone help? Peter, I am reliably informed that it definitely might not be "Margh...Marga....Whatever that cheese and tomato pizza is called Time". I in no way accept any responsibility for any bets lost, any failed relationships or come to think of it I've never accepted any responsibility in my life. Hope you not too ill and it can't be passed on over the net. Timothy Byker Byker Byker Groves....ooooooooooohed : >I think we should all meet up at a tacky, westworld like Butlins. Bognor Regis is like another planet. Bognor Regis is like another planet !!! Ha ! It's more like a fucking prison with extended fucking visiting hours. Ooooh excuse me, went off on one there...it's just that my Kate is stabled up in Bugger Bognor and I have come in frequent contact with said remand centre and have concerns that some of us might not be seen again. Who knows what goes on in the showers ? In fact Bognor Butlins is so notoriously shit that people pay hundreds of pounds a week to sit in the boot of their cars reading papers and staring at the fuck-off great rocks which now act as a sea-defence. Ooh my language is bad recently. Must dash....Jeeves ! Pass the f***ing olives. Adrian. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gmckay at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 15:40:42 1998 From: gmckay at xxx.com (Gillian McKay) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:40:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: group get together Message-ID: <360270E9.7B39@roisin.ayo.dec.com> >soul weekends are quite sad affairs - the music is awful and bears no >resemblance to B&S - how about meeting at a scootering weekend with Sorry, think i didn't make it very clear! i meant a similar idea with different music! personally, i'm not a big soul fan but the program just happened to be on and it looked a good idea. >I think we should all meet up at a tacky, westworld like Butlins. >Bognor Regis this sounds great, we could take over the place for the weekend gillian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jong_1998 at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 15:37:32 1998 From: jong_1998 at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 07:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: jon g. takes a break to return to his computer. Message-ID: <19980918143732.23419.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> Hey kids! I've just been sooo busy for two weeks, playing at a-levels and things. It was great fun. Finally checked the email yesterday and got swept away by a sea of messages. That was poetic wasn't it? Anyway, I think The Boy is just fab. But then I would. It's just how it happens. No complaints to make. Maybe I'm just a simpleton. Silly music journalists are really getting to me. Like the one in Select, who said that Stevie wrecked Seymour Stein by saying that he wasn't coming to dinner. He does not understand and then LIES! It's all LIES! The NME review of Sheperd's Bush was really stupid as well. That bloke just didn't get it really, did he? They're really getting on my nerves. I'm writing this from school! Does that excite you old people? 'How quaint' they all say. That's also why I'm so funny-sounding. I can't cope. I'm having a bad day. I've dropped my pencil case four times today! Does no-one understand what a terrible effect this has on a young boy? David Kitchen is just so write about indie shops and that. I appreciate being able to go into Fopp and buy the new album for �9.99. The people will smile and they don't have instore radio trying to sell me the latest all saints single. They sell vinyl too and it crackles nicely. I could have gone into HMV or Virgin and paid �13.99 and then get a frown from the till woman. Anyway, with the �4.00 I saved, I went to a nice second hand record shop and bought a lovely Simon & Garfunkl record. So there. I noticed the Virgin advertisement in the NME for The Boy. And, oh, how I laughed. The only thing they could write about was that they had sold 100,00 copies of If You're Feeling Sinister. Nothing else really mattered. This weeks NME reports that a lovely song called 'Floral Graffiti' can be found on The Acid House soundtrack. I hate music journalists more now. LIES! LIES! LIES! tee hee. Oh, I must introduce myself to the new people, as they often seem to introduce themselves to us. Hello. My name is jon g. There was a time when me and my partner in crime bethey could certainly say that we were the youngest on the list, except for Linda's goldfish. But now, I just don't now. Anyone younger than 15? What a contest. Anyway, must dash. It's almost time for.....double maths. Fun. 8) Till next time, jon g. jon.g at btinternet.com - http://surf.to/jongandbethey ps. hope honey hasn't started using security features on the list, cos otherwise this won't get through == jon.g at btinternet.com or jong_1998 at yahoo.com http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cja1000 at xxx.uk Fri Sep 18 16:19:46 1998 From: cja1000 at xxx.uk (Chris) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:19:46 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: JonG Message-ID: JonG only fifteen? And doing A-levels? Come join the sinister mailing list, home of child prodigies. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From allandl at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 16:22:18 1998 From: allandl at xxx.com (Allan de Leon) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 08:22:18 PDT Subject: Sinister: B&S Oct. 24 Toronto Meet Message-ID: <19980918152218.6761.qmail@hotmail.com> I'm organizing a B&S Meet on Oct.24 in Toronto. (show date) Send me an email privately for further details. cheers, Allan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dpayton1 at xxx.edu Fri Sep 18 16:37:32 1998 From: dpayton1 at xxx.edu (danelle) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:37:32 -0500 (CDT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199809181537.KAA11670@bigred.unl.edu> well i'm back (although no one probably noticed i was here in the first place) and i have the new album...finally. i've been having a horribly terrible month, or would it sound better if i said terribly horrible? my car has been broken into, school, work, my roommate's annoying boyfriend, and the like. it was so nice just to come home and play my new belle and sebastian cd...for those minutes, life was good. anyways, i'm danelle. i'm almost 21. i live in the middle of nowhere (the midwest). i'm your typical poor full time undergraduate who has two jobs and no time for a real life. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 16:50:10 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:50:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Come to popstarz - yes, you! Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22230AF5@server1.HITEntertainment.com> I'm so sorry, I know I should have thought of this before, but... I'm off for a gorgeous time at popstarz tonight with fellow listee and general object of desire Garry (if gruff scots accents float your boat, anyway). If any London listees, particularly new ones, fancy coming along, I'm the one in the emerald shirt (or I will be if I can still get into it), and Garry's the rather slinky flame-haired one in the tight top. The music's fabbo, it's in Holborn (not too far from the night bus), and I guarantee a good time (missus!). See you there... Went into Borders on Oxford Street, absent-mindedly picked up the headphones at a listening post, and a lilting, oh-so-sweet voice asked me if I'd love her as an eagle! How about that now... the ever-glam Biondino xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TWidmer at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 17:42:40 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:42:40 -0700 Subject: Sinister: belle et sebastien theme song Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF0329389A@amerwksnt01.xil.com> Can anybody pls advise where one might obtain a copy of the original theme music from the TV series? Please e-mail me privately if so, cheers. Tata, tara +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wjessica at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 17:14:49 1998 From: wjessica at xxx.com (Jessica Noelani Wright) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:14:49 -0700 Subject: Sinister: black cat Message-ID: I'm going to the Oct 30 show in DC at the black cat. i am so excited, just got my tickets. anyone else going? -jess Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From RBARRETT at xxx.ie Fri Sep 18 16:21:00 1998 From: RBARRETT at xxx.ie (Barrett Ronan) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 17:21 +0200 (CET-DST) Subject: Sinister: Things I like Message-ID: <01J1YNBW5Q9600LSPC@vms.eurokom.ie> Hello peeps, haven't posted in ages, but here are some things I like today: The way TARBYBUM sounds better with every listen. The accent of the girl who says "In A Town So Small....." on DD#2 That Fantasy B&S comp. Thanks Chris, even if my attempts to finish last were cruelly foiled by people even more stupid than me. The current groundswell of opinion that says "Simple Things" is the best song ever. Now if only it was 14 minutes long... That Salako single. That Divine Comedy album. That Keith has cleard up that Sting picture thing. For 3 days there, he didn't rule. Chickfactor. Why so low in the voting booth? I don't like those new t-shirts much though. Bring back the cartoon ones! Finally, David Publishing Person (I think) nominated DublinJoss for Monday's poem. I have a feeling he's about 2000 miles away at present, so he may not be able to make it. So if no-one volunteers over the weekend, you'll be getting a Simon Armitage poem from me on Monday. Byeeeee Ronan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: WINMAIL.DAT Type: application/x-tnef Size: 2393 bytes Desc: not available URL: From alasala at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 19:35:46 1998 From: alasala at xxx.com (Anthony LaSala) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:35:46 -0500 Subject: Sinister: simple things Message-ID: Just wondering....since everyone seems to love lists so very much.... What would be, in everyone's humble opinion, the top five simple things one would ask to make a young boy sigh? I will be sure to triplicate them on the office xerox machine. Pondering the Friday away, Anthony +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sweaters at xxx.net Fri Sep 18 19:09:57 1998 From: sweaters at xxx.net (Butch Sweaters) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:09:57 -0400 Subject: Sinister: chickfactor References: Message-ID: <3602A1F5.95B3A5E9@dca.net> "Chickfactor" is edited by Gail O'Hara. It's very good. Gail is pictured on the cover of The Magnetic Fields "Get Lost" record, which many of you probably own, I suspect (if you don't, you should. It's a perfect record). She's the one with the wavy-ish hair in the center of the back row. She and Stephin from The Magneic Fields are also rock critics for Time Out New York. I haven't seen it, but she apparently has a piece on B&S in this week's issue, and when she mentions Chickfactor (the song) she says something like "the song Chickfactor is about the New York music 'zine edited by...um....me." Kind of funny. love love love, Butch Sweaters Thessaly1 at aol.com wrote: > hi there kids! > > i met a wonderful girl last weekend who explained to me what the song > chickfactor is about. it is the name of an indie magazine run from new york > and the girl really likes belle and sebastian. this girl i met had gone from > la to new york to see b and s last summer and met the "chickfactor" chick > there at the show. supposedly she is really big on the indie scene there in > nyc. so the 5 hours spoken of is the time difference from the uk to new york. > the song is about her and the magazine. > > too bad i forgot the name of chickfactor girl! > > jennifer > > trying to book a flight to chicago for the show there now that i have > somewhere to stay! :) > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sburon at xxx.fr Fri Sep 18 19:05:42 1998 From: sburon at xxx.fr (Stephane Buron) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 20:05:42 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Paris gig Message-ID: <3602A0F5.486@club-internet.fr> Hi ! Well, I havent posted much for the last few weeks, because of real life once again (the more I live, the more i hate real life... have you ever had this feeling yourself???). It's good to hear from jon g. again. Maybe you'll find it strange, but i'll always remember one of his posts, last year : he told us he prefers to stay home listening to some good music with bethey rather to go and dance in crowded and noisy clubs. Remember? Anyway... I went to the Divine Comedy gig in Paris two days ago. It was good, very good. You might think there is no Belle and Sebastian content but there is : he played at La Cigale, where our beloved glaswegians are going to play in a few weeks. Neil Hannon even played two or three acoustic songs, and I was surprised by the silence in the audience : I hope it will be the same when B&S play 'cause I share the Duke's point of view. I hate when people chat during concerts (and it often happens in venues like this one...) And I was wondering : apart from the French of the list, who will come to the Paris gig? I mean, will any English popkid be there? I'd love to organize kind of meeting before the gig and meet some of you again, so if you're interested, dont hesitate to answer... Last thought, even if it has been said before. You all know the lyrics of Rollercoaster Ride, "Looking out the window at the city below, Looking out the window, full of fun and sorrow"... The first time I've heard these lines, I thought about the booklet picture of Lazy Line Painter Jane : i guess it's a coincidence, but we never know... Well, that's it for tonight, have a lovely week-end and take care, we love you all, Stephane +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From conform at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 20:46:58 1998 From: conform at xxx.com (Seamus Campbell) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:46:58 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Re: B&S PEZ MACHINES Message-ID: <01FF24001403D011AD7B00A024BC53C53BF2CD@cane.deming.com> i personally appreciate the indie pez stores for their selection of analogue pez dispensers and candy. being a pez purist, i am inclined to eschew the newer digital pez, which seem colder and less personal to me. though i have noticed a slight trend in the big stores to carry a limited selection of analogue pez... seamus > >BTW, although I would never buy any music from Woolies they are the > best > >sourse I've found of Pez, in the UK - so all credit to them for that > ;) > > > You should be supporting the small, independent Pez stores. These Mom > 'n' > Pop stores care about the pez, and are driven by enthusiasm not money. > This > means they can stock alternative pez that the big chains, such as > Woolies, > wouldn't touch for fear of making a loss. > > Also, in the indy stores you can find the early pez, which were much > better > than the new stuff... > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From conform at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 20:48:42 1998 From: conform at xxx.com (Seamus Campbell) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:48:42 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Re: B&S PEZ MACHINES Message-ID: <01FF24001403D011AD7B00A024BC53C53BF2CE@cane.deming.com> > i personally appreciate the indie pez stores for their selection of > analogue pez dispensers and candy. being a pez purist, i am inclined > to eschew the newer digital pez, which seem colder and less personal > to me. though i have noticed a slight trend in the big stores to > carry a limited selection of analogue pez... > > seamus > > >BTW, although I would never buy any music from Woolies they are the > best > >sourse I've found of Pez, in the UK - so all credit to them for that > ;) > > > You should be supporting the small, independent Pez stores. These Mom > 'n' > Pop stores care about the pez, and are driven by enthusiasm not money. > This > means they can stock alternative pez that the big chains, such as > Woolies, > wouldn't touch for fear of making a loss. > > Also, in the indy stores you can find the early pez, which were much > better > than the new stuff... > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From conform at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 20:49:43 1998 From: conform at xxx.com (Seamus Campbell) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:49:43 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Re: B&S PEZ MACHINES Message-ID: <01FF24001403D011AD7B00A024BC53C53BF2CF@cane.deming.com> i personally appreciate the indie pez stores for their selection of analogue pez dispensers and candy. being a pez purist, i am inclined to eschew the newer digital pez, which seem colder and less personal to me. though i have noticed a slight trend in the big stores to carry a limited selection of analogue pez... seamus > >BTW, although I would never buy any music from Woolies they are the > best > >sourse I've found of Pez, in the UK - so all credit to them for that > ;) > > > You should be supporting the small, independent Pez stores. These Mom > 'n' > Pop stores care about the pez, and are driven by enthusiasm not money. > This > means they can stock alternative pez that the big chains, such as > Woolies, > wouldn't touch for fear of making a loss. > > Also, in the indy stores you can find the early pez, which were much > better > than the new stuff... > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starstruckone at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 21:10:33 1998 From: starstruckone at xxx.com (Zach Braun) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:10:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Debate Message-ID: <19980918201033.9762.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> ---rap101 wrote: > > > Anyone else adore A Summer Wasting? ooooh yes, it's one of my favorite songs on the lp, behind "dd#2" and "sleep the clock around. the beginning is a marvel. > I don't think I would even notice if b&s had a > number one single, except that I'd get to hear it a lot on the radio. > And hurrah for that. Luv Archel x if b&s had a number one, it would actually make me listen to the radio more. just imagine "chickfactor" sprinkled in with brandy&monica and matchbox 20. hee hee, they'll take over the world yet!! bye, Zach B. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paula at xxx.uk Fri Sep 18 21:24:05 1998 From: paula at xxx.uk (paula wiseman) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 21:24:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Paris gig Message-ID: <3602C164.569F9255@hannoncom.prestel.co.uk> I was at the DC gig in Paris too! It was just soooo fantastic. I was the one in front of Neil jumping up and down like a maniac! The audience was very quite though. Sorry 'bout the lack of B&S content, but I just thought I'd say that. Paula xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SpaceboyUK at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 21:33:10 1998 From: SpaceboyUK at xxx.com (SpaceboyUK at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:33:10 EDT Subject: Sinister: PEOPLE GOING TO LIVE SHOWS: Message-ID: is anyone planning on taping (audio) one of the shows? and if so,could you send a copy to me? i'd love to hear therm live and wont get the chance for a while (IF they come to FL next spring,as thought) so that'd be great. thanks -a.james and if you REALLY want to trade i have tigermilk,demos,& 2 '96 sessions. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SpaceboyUK at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 21:33:48 1998 From: SpaceboyUK at xxx.com (SpaceboyUK at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:33:48 EDT Subject: Sinister: SESSIONS (i am way too much in need) Message-ID: <98a7643c.3602c3ac@aol.com> could anyone tape the B&S sessions for me? thanks. -a.james +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From arab_strap at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 21:35:33 1998 From: arab_strap at xxx.com (Greg Pallis) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:35:33 PDT Subject: Sinister: Evil B&S "Judy" Conspiracy Message-ID: <19980918203537.9187.qmail@hotmail.com> Anyone noticed how both Sinister and TOASTEDTEACAKES (or twattybus) end with a song about Judy? From Judy and the dream of horses to "take judy with her bow and arrow shes a mastermind..." Who is Judy? Incidentally, I love twattybus with all my heart, i just all the tracks, particually a summer wasting which reminds me of every single holiday or weekend i ever had, and I want to cuddle it and cherish it forever. Why would a woodchuck chuck wood? Greg ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 21:37:39 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:37:39 EDT Subject: Sinister: Breaktime-Is it a biscuit?Or maybe a bar? Who can be sure... Message-ID: <3805a428.3602c493@aol.com> Mark wrote: <sourse I've found of Pez, in the UK - so all credit to them for that ;) > I'm amazed that people continue to buy these things! I've toyed with the idea of buying one on my frequent trips to fellate The Man in Woolies, but I haven't got round to it. Do some people really need a small machine to get sweets from the packet into their mouths? I suspect that they have another, more nepherious purpose which my innocent mind can't quite understand. None the less B&S pez machines appeal massively. The Spice Girls did little Cadbury's Wildlife bars with a Spice Girl etched on each bar, and spice facts on the wrapper. We should have them too, except the band would probably be to shy to appear on the bars and send a friend to do it instead. AND THE POINT WAS... yep, that's it. I know this isn't the best time to ask, but I'm desperate to know at the moment: In 1996 some dj or other played some song or other by some scottish band or other, every night, for a month or so. We all know what happened next. But what happened to Dimanche Desue (phonetic spelling, sorry real french people), a one man band type, who at the same time, sang a lovely melancholy song called 'C'est Absent' (again, sorry, I can understand french, but not when it's said with a Bolton accent, on a crackly wireless) I tried to find it once when I went to france, but just got sneered at. So, is this availiable in England? What is the bloke's real name? Am I really the only person who likes it? I played the Mike Reid fruit machine yesterday, and it's better than I thought it could be. It contains no references to Runaround, but if you get three Cockney Wankers in a row, you win £3.50. And Frank occasionally invites you to 'take my advice'. Not in that jacket, Mike. seb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Fri Sep 18 22:37:40 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 17:37:40 -0400 Subject: Sinister: simple things In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 14:35 -04009/18/98, Anthony LaSala wrote: [Just wondering....since everyone seems to love lists so very much.... [ [What would be, in everyone's humble opinion, the top five simple things one [would ask to make a young boy sigh? [ [I will be sure to triplicate them on the office xerox machine. [ [Pondering the Friday away, [Anthony [ aaaaaaaaack! last night i listened to "simple things" before i went to bed, and then ended up lying in bed thinking about how to go about making a list of things to make a young boy sigh. i was going to present this idea to the list, but looks as though you beat me to it. still, i have no idea. i guess that's because i'm not a young boy. ;) -kerry "grrr! Satan rejected *my* soul! I'm bad!" -julie, in reference to the cover of "satan rejected my soul" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From leggattn at xxx.edu Fri Sep 18 23:10:24 1998 From: leggattn at xxx.edu (N Leggatt) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: summer Message-ID: > Anyone else adore A Summer Wasting? i think it may be my favorite on arab strap. i like the title song for its lyrics and Is it wicked for that ethereal beautiful voice but a summer wasting is a brave shout at the world - so i didn't do anything all summer, i lived didn't i? gotta admire that. also, the drums on that song are fantastic. N __ "So many things we never will undo I know you're sorry, I'm sorry too Some people will offer you their hand and some won't Last night I knew you, tonight I don't" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SpaceboyUK at xxx.com Fri Sep 18 23:21:54 1998 From: SpaceboyUK at xxx.com (SpaceboyUK at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:21:54 EDT Subject: Sinister: To personell or other who know: Message-ID: what are these "Mick Cooke" mugs like? what do they look like? -a,james +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Sat Sep 19 23:29:50 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 23:29:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: And that top five in full; Message-ID: <199809182235.XAA25099@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Well it seems too difficult to think of 5 simple things to make a young boy sigh. But how about 5 simple things that make a young boy (well 18 isn't old is it?) cry. 1. The bit in Lion King when Simba's dad is killed 2. The bit when Bambi's mother dies. 3. Robbie Williams on top of the Pops (made me cry with laughter) 4. The bit in ET when he leaves poor Elliot 5. Schindlers List ( How depressing was that?) A list of things that will make me sigh will follow as soon as I can think of 5 of them. Jake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Sat Sep 19 01:44:11 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 17:44:11 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk on CD Message-ID: <000e01bde366$9fc50320$d49fcdcf@brier> Hi all.... I have severe misgivings about posting this.... don't yell at me.... I bought Tigermilk on CD today from a local indie record shop. For thirty bucks. I know I did nothing illegal (altho whoever manufactured it sure did) but I wonder if I did something immoral. But what would you have done??? It was so beautiful; the dancing girls logo as cover art; the mis-titled "The State I'm In".... I hadn't even HEARD it yet so I didn't hesitate to quickly take it to the counter, looking over my shoulder the whole time for the spirit of D.Kitchen wagging his finger at me. Also, I'll most certainly buy the official release if it ever comes out, so I don't feel I've cheated anyone out of anything. Am I wrong? Can anyone say they would've done differently? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mkolmar at xxx.com Sat Sep 19 02:50:24 1998 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 20:50:24 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk on CD In-Reply-To: <000e01bde366$9fc50320$d49fcdcf@brier> Message-ID: On Fri, 18 Sep 1998, Brier Random wrote: > I have severe misgivings about posting this.... don't yell at me.... I > bought Tigermilk on CD today from a local indie record shop. For > thirty bucks. Under the circumstances, bootlegging was inevitable. If a lot of people want something, someone will sell it to them. I wish _Tigermilk_ had been reissued about 6 months ago. I hope it will be reissued ASAP, because I hate to see this happen. After a reissue the bootlegs would be worth almost nothing. Does it have about 4 songs from a radio session at the end? Is it silvery (aluminum)? I must confess someone is sending me one, probably a CD-R. (No money involved -- I got the offer during an ongoing search for a copy of the LP. A few people will offer to sell you one for an extortionist's price. Someone else will offer you a dub of some sort.) That pisses me off, but I'm not surprised. Squash the profiteer! Unless of course this is really a plan to gain publicity...cynical, but it would probably work. --Mark __ October 19th: SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Sat Sep 19 03:23:36 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 19:23:36 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk on CD Message-ID: <009101bde374$833a7600$d49fcdcf@brier> >Does it have about 4 songs from a radio session at the end? Is it silvery >(aluminum)? > I wish it had the radio sessions. It just has: The State Expec Losing It Baby Elec. Ren. Dreaming Rule the School Wandering Days I Don't Love Anyone Mary Jo (titles shortened by me) And it's silvery like a normal CD. No notes at all but for the track listing and a barcode. >Unless of course this is really a plan to gain publicity...cynical, but it >would probably work. > By me??? Is that what you mean? I don't need that kind of publicity. I'm no hero. -----------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chigger88 at xxx.com Sat Sep 19 04:05:42 1998 From: chigger88 at xxx.com (Burt Reynolds) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 20:05:42 PDT Subject: Sinister: I am behind You, I am a Tiger! Message-ID: <19980919030543.6136.qmail@hotmail.com> Mr. Miller wrote: I don't know what "South Park" is, and if I'm >perfectly honest, I don't bloody want to either. But what I do need to know >is whether it will be necessary for me to disown Isaac Hayes and claim that >I liked him much more when he was bankrupt? That'll teach me to like people >who aren't dead! I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the voice on South Park isn't actually Isaac Hayes. I do know that Isaac Hayes is now a grand high poobah in the church of scientology. Go figure. Rachael ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From noelani30 at xxx.com Sat Sep 19 04:17:49 1998 From: noelani30 at xxx.com (Jessica Wright) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 20:17:49 PDT Subject: Sinister: obsession Message-ID: <19980919031750.29533.qmail@hotmail.com> Is anyone else totally obsessed with this album? since i bought it, i can't, physically can't listen to anything else. i tried once, put on a cast album and after two songs put TBWTAS right back on. is this a problem, a sickness? which indie store was tigermilk found on cd? i don't think it's evil. =) no one on here going to the dc show at the black cat? -jess ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mdinh at xxx.com Sat Sep 19 04:35:02 1998 From: mdinh at xxx.com (Mark Dinh) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 20:35:02 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk on CD Message-ID: <36032666.2948FEF3@foxmail.com> I'm new to the list, so I'm not sure if this has been talked about before. If it has, my sincerest apologies. (Have to put this disclaimer in as my last e-mail was about whether or not B&S reminded anyone of bands on the now defunct Sarah Records. Oops. :) I think a cool way to cut into the bootlegging (and keep distribution costs to a minimum) is to set up an internet site selling the songs in MP3 format. The Beastie Boys are starting to do this, and I think we'll see more and more bands doing this. Wouldn't it be cool if you could order and download Tigermilk over the internet instead of having to pay for a bootleg knowing that none of the royalties go to the artist? I wonder if B&S would go for that. My $.02. Mark +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Sat Sep 19 04:55:42 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 20:55:42 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk on CD Message-ID: <00cb01bde381$61b3c6a0$d49fcdcf@brier> >Wouldn't it be cool if you could order and download Tigermilk over the internet instead of having to pay for a >bootleg knowing that none of the royalties go to the artist? > Yes it'd be cool for us, but when and if B&S decide to re-release T-milk for general consumption, most of their fan base (meaning us here) wouldn't need to buy it. Then it wouldn't chart very high. Then chart-watchers wouldn't realize that B&S rule the world. I'm kicking my own ass now for even buying that damn bootleg. Even tho I said I'd still buy the official release, now I dunno because this bootleg's quality is soo-perb. Maybe if the artwork is utterly groovy and features naked pix of the members (and their members). Warm Regards, Posh Spice(olation) -------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Sat Sep 19 06:32:54 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 22:32:54 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Tonight Message-ID: <010201bde38e$f4db0ee0$d49fcdcf@brier> In the silence of sleeping Brits, Brier Random had the gall to write: Kinda peaceful, isn't it?? Just us Americans on the list, no UK'ers still up this late... we can converse at will, without having to translate their English into a language we can understand. But then they wake up in the morning and hafta wade through our drunken americana from the night before. But we have to do the same thing for their night-time ramblings, only we're hit with it when we get home from work. Aaahh, time zones. I wish we were all together, that this could be real time, that y'all across the ocean could know that we're all one; we Americans are no different at all from you (save for less affinity for vinegar with our fried potatoes). I lived in Oxford for six (sick) months and almost became one of you. I miss being British, though I never was. But in my St. Clements flat I first discovered Housemartins and the Beautiful South (through a Camden bootleg), and tea has never tasted the same since I got deported (a story within a story there; some other time you voyeurs); and the point is that though there is an ocean between us, the people aren't that different. Cheers to whoever posted (I've erased it, damn) that he gained a different version of yanks thru this list. And I don't want to get all misty & new-agey about how this music has brought us together across the miles, so I won't. F**k that anyway. But togetherness is cool. -Pish Spice -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SpaceboyUK at xxx.com Sat Sep 19 07:39:01 1998 From: SpaceboyUK at xxx.com (SpaceboyUK at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 02:39:01 EDT Subject: Sinister: US SoundScan Position(indie stock) Message-ID: <57096df6.36035185@aol.com> well i was very disappointed in Best Buy when the 8th rolled around. i went bright & early when they opened,and an employee looked bwtas up on the computer(after i had not found it under the B&S section,which had sinister,which is where i got sinister) and he told me that they were "not going to carry it" . as in "never" and that was not cool. i found it at the least likely place. Just a little record store called "sound exchange" where i've been shopping at since they opened in '92. they only had ONE copy in stock and there was only ONE copy in my town,and i bought it at 11:30 on the 8th of September,when other B&Sers were still asleep. shame on them. cant wait for my vinyl to come. -a.james +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From leggattn at xxx.edu Sat Sep 19 09:14:53 1998 From: leggattn at xxx.edu (N Leggatt) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 01:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: US SoundScan Position(indie stock) In-Reply-To: <57096df6.36035185@aol.com> Message-ID: >well i was very disappointed in Best Buy when the 8th rolled around. ... had sinister,which is where i got sinister) and he told me that they were "not going to carry it" . as in "never" and that was not cool. < that doesn't surprise me. but my locally owned & operated friendly neighborhood record store doesn't even have a b&s _section_. i got arab strap from amazon.com. a great resource for small town dwellers, this "internet" and "web" thing the kids are into these days... N __ "So many things we never will undo I know you're sorry, I'm sorry too Some people will offer you their hand and some won't Last night I knew you, tonight I don't" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sburon at xxx.fr Sat Sep 19 09:45:42 1998 From: sburon at xxx.fr (Stephane Buron) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:45:42 +0200 Subject: Sinister: To personell or other who know: References: Message-ID: <36036F23.7C9D@club-internet.fr> SpaceboyUK at aol.com wrote: > > what are these "Mick Cooke" mugs like? > what do they look like? > They're white as the Judy mugs, with many dark blue drawings of instruments (guitars, keyboards, drums, flutes, trumpets...) and with this sentence, at the bottom of the mug : "Belle and Sebastian commemorate the enrolement of Mick Cooke 1998". The mug is very very nice... Stephane -- Visitez le Tweeclub sur http://www.chez.com/tweeclub "If the sun going down can make me cry Why should I not like the way I am ? " The Field Mice +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk Sat Sep 19 13:52:15 1998 From: Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk (Sarah Wheeler) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 13:52:15 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Sisters, sisters, lalalalala, sisters Message-ID: <199809191252.NAA27324@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk> Sorry, but just to back-track slightly........... Glenn wrote: > don't wish for too much success for b&s lest you have to let your 11-year-old >sister borrow your new CD. would you still be a fan after that brutal >experience? Some of my happiest times have been driving between Glasgow and Stirling with my sister (aged 23, maybe that makes all the difference) and brother-in-law to be, with us screeching along to IYFS.....to have something, other than your parents, in common with your sister makes this so very special, not brutal in the slightest. Aaah, fond memories of singing along to Mary-Jo, substituting Maryhill, as we approached that glorious part of Glasgow. Can't wait to get back in the family car with TUBBYWHITEARSE. Byeee Sarah x ======================= Sarah Wheeler Room 106 West Medical Building University of Glasgow GLASGOW G12 8QQ 0141-339 8855 ext.2860 ======================= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Sat Sep 19 14:05:43 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (rap101) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:05:43 +0100 () Subject: Sinister: A Summer Working In-Reply-To: <19980918201033.9762.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: A Summer Wasting is one of those songs that I wish did utterly describe my situation - it should have done if there was any justice - but far from the time passing easily this summer I was working full time in a stuffy library in Brighton. "7 weeks of Danielle Steel / 7 weeks of people arguing about fines / 7 weeks of standing up all day." Come to think of it, would b&s on the radio sandwiched between slices of the musical equivalent of additive-ridden white bread actually leach out the quality, highlighting the (very occasional) annoying bits and losing all the flavour? Hm. I've been thinking that it's actually a really natural thing for people to want to keep their favourite bands to themselves (despite what I said yesterday). It's like a private joke (no offence b&s), an 'our song' writ large, and a sort of calling card. At the moment, if you meet someone who likes B&S (or other non-huge band) you have a certain expectation of the type of person they are, and at the moment it would probably be quite accurate. B&S stand for certain things (I think) such as sincerity and romance and sensitivity and simplicity and difference and being interested in life and people, so sharing a taste for them is like a shorthand for sharing other things. The more people like them, the harder it becomes to guarantee this. Or am I just talking utter bollocks? Archel x ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Sat Sep 19 14:25:17 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (rap101) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:25:17 +0100 () Subject: Sinister: simple things In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 18 Sep 1998, azriel wrote: > > At 14:35 -04009/18/98, Anthony LaSala wrote: > [Just wondering....since everyone seems to love lists so very much.... > [ > [What would be, in everyone's humble opinion, the top five simple things one > [would ask to make a young boy sigh? > [ > [I will be sure to triplicate them on the office xerox machine. > [ > [Pondering the Friday away, > [Anthony > [ OK, I have nothing to do, so here goes: 1. Listening to TBWTAS. 2. When alone, a picture of a beautiful woman. (When with mates, response may be more along the lines of Wahey!) 3. Learning that their football team has lost. (Admittedly this might make them scream or sob or swear instead, depending on the level of their devotion.) 4. Listening to IYFS. 5. Erm...I'm not doing very well here. Being punched in the stomach? I believe this sometimes deprives one of breath to the extent that a sigh is the only possible reaction. That was pretty lame I know. Why doesn't jon g. tell us? Archel x > > aaaaaaaaack! last night i listened to "simple things" before i went to bed, > and then ended up lying in bed thinking about how to go about making a list > of things to make a young boy sigh. > i was going to present this idea to the list, but looks as though you beat > me to it. > still, i have no idea. i guess that's because i'm not a young boy. ;) > > -kerry > > "grrr! Satan rejected *my* soul! I'm bad!" > -julie, in reference to the cover of "satan rejected my soul" > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Sat Sep 19 14:43:12 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 15:43:12 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Saucy Prize Post Message-ID: <01bde3d3$71ee7720$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Chris leonard wrote: It was definitely pointing up >upwards but a bit flaccid at the end, like a melting submarine. But >since he was sitting back it was kind of like the bath effect when it >floats upwards with no effort. And without a bath. It's like you >get two magnets, and magnetically float a squirming meat train. Ah yes, I know just what you mean, Chris. Thanks for all the in-depth information. I have to say that Trousers went and deflated it a bit in the interim, by casually, probably accidentally in fact, pointing out that his semi-stiffy is in fact a boring old painting, and not a photograph, as I had innocently assumed. I'm quite disappointed, because I'd already imagined some kind of "Strawberry and Chocolate" scenario. Still, that's out the window now, even if it was a phot, I'm sure Oon the Loon's presence would have put the kybosh on that. Never mind, hopefully there'll be some kind of cock cage element in the forthcoming competition. jon g wrote: I'm writing this from school! Does that excite you old people? Not really, Jon, no. How's bethey getting on? Burt Reynolds wrote: I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the voice on South Park isn't actually Isaac Hayes. I do know that Isaac Hayes is now a grand high poobah in the church of scientology. Go figure. That's a bit more like it. How do I join in the scientology fun? I can assure you all that I only need to hear three or four seconds of "Isaac Hayes" on South Park to know whether it is indeed an imposter. I'm quite proud of that. It's the result of hours listening to his between song banter (very sexy!) on "Live From the Sahara Tahoe". So warm, so mellow. Duke Holliday - how much will the postage set me back for a copy of your book? I'm asking via the list to give you an opportunity to make barbed and witty comments, should you wish. Anything to keep the list afloat. I've been reduced to reading "Herzog" by Saul Bellow, which is a bit too brainy for me. Speaking of brainy, it's about time we had a message from Charlotte Hall. Did you buy the new album in Swiss Cottage, Charlotte? And while we're on the subject of shy and retiring listees, the world's foremost authority on Pez dispensers is keeping conspicuosly quiet. It's a shame. With a ll the tedious drivel on the list (see above) surely you two could rasie standards a bit? Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk Sat Sep 19 14:53:16 1998 From: Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk (Sarah Wheeler) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:53:16 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Oops....... Message-ID: <199809191353.OAA11810@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk> I stupidly said..... >Some of my happiest times have been driving between Glasgow and Stirling with >my sister (aged 23, maybe that makes all the difference) and brother-in-law to >be, with us screeching along to IYFS.....to have something, other than your >parents, in common with your sister makes this so very special, not brutal in >the slightest. > >Aaah, fond memories of singing along to Mary-Jo, substituting Maryhill, as we >approached that glorious part of Glasgow. > Before some pedant picks up on my error, I've just realised that Mary-Jo is on Tigermilk, rather than IYFS.......sorry! But it was still very very enjoyable. ======================= Sarah Wheeler Room 106 West Medical Building University of Glasgow GLASGOW G12 8QQ 0141-339 8855 ext.2860 ======================= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From debbie.prior at xxx.com Sat Sep 19 15:32:04 1998 From: debbie.prior at xxx.com (debbie) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 15:32:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: "everybody SHADDUP thish shong'sh about ME!!!!!" Message-ID: darlings. oh so many messages that i could not be bothered reading, but here are some things anyway... 1) Have the meet up in Glasgow! Cos i am moving there next Sunday and you can all come and stay in the crappy flat with me... Maybe Keith should just put all the place suggestions in a magician-style top hat and pull one out, then noone will have to debate on the pros and cons of each place as it will all be decided by chance. Of course then we will end up going to Skye or something and no one will bother... 2) 'The Man' vs 'The Kids'. Hmmm, well being a poor impoverished unemployed ciderdrinking scum student type, i buy my records wherever they are cheapest. Which usually happens to be Fopp, which is an hours bus ride away (and it's not even a nice bus), but still preferable to going to Woolies who never have anything i want. When i was 14 i did my work experience in Our Price where i was astonished at how high a markup i was having to put on DogManStar and The Holy Bible. But most people round here don't have a choice other than to go to Woolies or whatever, so you can't really blame them in that sense. Not that it matters as they only buy shite. And this is not me being 'elitist'. I speak from the experience of having been bullied on the school bus for six years due to the kind of music i was listening to... 3) Some people have been going on about all the new b&s songs sounding like other older ones. I hardly ever notice comparisons, but does it really matter? After punk, everything was an echo of the past and everyone became a user of culture, didn't they? You can't create your 'Year Zero' again so sooner or later things are gonna start sounding alike. Everything's revisionist. 4)umm, there was going to something else here, but i've forgotten what it was. Will i beable to get any of the badges which were on sale at Maryhill by mailorder? I bought twelve at the time but i've given nearly all of them away. And has anyone else noticed that the wee 'Seb' badge has a green/white striped shirt and ginger hair? Does this mean B&S are Celtic supporters? Just wondered. love always, debbie xxx "Idleness is fatal only to the mediocre. Most men cannot even prove they are not mediocre" Camus. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From babyblu at xxx.uk Sat Sep 12 15:43:26 1998 From: babyblu at xxx.uk (Rory Mackie) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 15:43:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: *sigh* Message-ID: <35FA888E.72CA@gold.globalcafe.co.uk> Things that made this young(ish) boy sigh today.. 1: Missing the bus by *this* much. 2: The ending of the last story in 'The elephant vanishes' which I finished on the tube (just between Russell Square and Holborn) 3: Getting to work and realising I'd been rota'd to take books out of boxes all morning. 4: Stuart M sweetly intoning 'It could have been a brilliant career' over my shop's PA, the first time TWIGGYBASTARD has been put on by anyone other than me! (does this count as a full B&S conversion?) 5: Dreaming of New York and Philedelphia. 6: Boots running out of avacado and bacon sandwiches. That's it so far. Guess I'd better get back to work *sigh* StayMelancholyRoryxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Sat Sep 19 16:54:43 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 11:54:43 -0400 Subject: Sinister: US SoundScan Position(indie stock) In-Reply-To: References: <57096df6.36035185@aol.com> Message-ID: At 4:14 -04009/19/98, N Leggatt wrote: [>well i was very disappointed in Best Buy when the 8th rolled around. [... [had sinister,which is where i got sinister) and he told me that they were ["not going to carry it" . as in "never" and that was not cool. < [ [that doesn't surprise me. but my locally owned & operated friendly [neighborhood record store doesn't even have a b&s _section_. i got arab [strap from amazon.com. a great resource for small town dwellers, this ["internet" and "web" thing the kids are into these days... [ [N [__ hmm. i got my copy from a big fat "new releases" display that had about 50 of 'em at newbury comics in amherst massachusettes. it only cost me $11, because they mark down all their new releases to $11. see, i had like $30 just in case i could only find the UK release. i was actually surprised that i found it so easily. and i'm not really sure whether to consider newbury comics an indie store or not. they basically started out as an indie store in boston, but have since branched out over massachusettes. same thing with mystery train. hmmm. -kerry (just woke up. don't really know what i just typed) "well it comes with the hurt and the guilt and the memories. if i had to take them with me i would never leave my bed . . . (do you really think you keep it all that well hid?) no, but i travel light." -tindersticks, "travelling light" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paiku at xxx.com Sat Sep 19 16:55:25 1998 From: paiku at xxx.com (jubilee ?) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 08:55:25 PDT Subject: Sinister: Kool Katrina and the toronto show Message-ID: <19980919155525.8991.qmail@hotmail.com> hellooooo uhm, hello my name i sarah and i like ducks and lollipops. p!o!p!s? actually i only like them cos i was just at the drug store and they had this huge rack of them and they were almost all a different flavour. there were even really gross ones like coconut cream pie. nasty. ANYWAY the reason i'm posting is to say thanks to katrina for tipping me on being a youngin in a liscenced world, and then talking to neil about the dates. I know that doesn't guarantee anything, but it was a super nice thing for her to even try to do because the two liscenced shows aren't even anywhere near her and errr, she's can get into liscenced shows, but she's given me hope! I bought my ticket yesterday from bloody awful ticketmaster, they put this horrible enormous service charge so a $16 ticket becomes about $78. well closer to $22 actually. Ugh, that makes me physically sick. Like my biology is physically addiced to learning, in that sort of way. hmmmm. SO YES, thank you katrina for trying to help us pathetic little canadians potentially get a step closer to our one common bond on this list which is PEZ. i mean belle and sebastian. right. And as for a list meet, i'm SO IN BABY. i mean, yes i'd like to come. and maybe if the show stays 19+ we can all go into the opera house as a big heard and i can just stand in the middle as we enter the doors. or mayeb not. But i thought it seemed like a good idea. ok awesome thanks bye :) sarah p.s.- hi matt langham!!! goo goo ga moo. matthew langham is addicted to talking to yanks on this program called iphone so any donations to stop his addiction and get him help would be appreciated. you can send them to me and i'll keep them. i mean send them along. No money though just PEZ. thanks. -management ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ab8 at xxx.edu Sat Sep 19 17:02:06 1998 From: ab8 at xxx.edu (abrightersidetolife) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 12:02:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: nyc nov. 1st Message-ID: hello, things happened and we are short tickets for the november 1st show, if anyone has a ticket(S) to spare please let me know. i would be eternally greatful. i will be in nyc that weekend and i can only visit my old NYU haunts for so long... on an aside, who on this list met morrissey? how was His Master's Voice (he is afterall the world's greatest lyricist). well as i listen to the Stephen Merritt version of "heroes" i have to go.. bye. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From heinitz at xxx.net Sat Sep 19 03:21:55 1998 From: heinitz at xxx.net (Heinitz) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 98 02:21:55 GMT Subject: Sinister: helen lover Message-ID: <980919022155.n0001394.heinitz@mail.clara.net> >boards of canada >theaudience >helen love i have never heard of the first, but i quite like theaudience although they are bobbins live. but do buy helen love stuff, they are great. and, and, my friend daniel is in the video and on the cover of the single for "long live the uk music scene". >birmingham, bristol, essex, exeter, kent, lancaster, leeds, sheffield, york, and st. andrews go to sheffield, it has a wide variety of benches all on the one street. some of them are traditional, some of them are quite futuristic, and one of them is very shiny and smooth and curvy. that last one is my personal favourite. i was wondering if the video for "it's insipid to taunt bears" was actually shown on alternative nation, because i missed just that vital first five minutes of the damn programme while trying to work out which train to catch to bridlington to see the manics with my aforementioned friend daniel, i rushed to the tv and stayed up til two watching strange videos, none of which were of belle and sebastian. oh, and honey is right (of course), that cornelius video is fantastic. but some of the others were scary. abi, who can't quite justify going all the way to london to see Fosca, although she very much wants to. *sigh* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JonnyKat at xxx.com Sat Sep 19 17:25:18 1998 From: JonnyKat at xxx.com (JonnyKat at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 12:25:18 EDT Subject: Sinister: simple things Message-ID: <847010ee.3603daee@aol.com> Anthony queried: "What would be, in everyone's humble opinion, the top five simple things one would ask to make a young boy sigh?" I reply: Simple things you ask to make a young boy sigh: (In recent weeks these have all worked on me.) 1. Do they ever see the real you? 2. Is that all that you believe in? 3. Why is this happening? 4. What's driving you mad? 5. Do you ever feel you have gone too far? Much Love, Jonny : ) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stiner at xxx.edu Sat Sep 19 22:00:48 1998 From: stiner at xxx.edu (Cristina Cacioppo) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 17:00:48 -0400 Subject: Sinister: hi, hello and help Message-ID: <36041B80.1F2A1B89@ufl.edu> well this will be my very first posting. and this is what i want to say: has anyone heard anything about a possible nov 9 show in athens GA? it would be so nice for us kids down in the south US. i live in florida. any neighbors here on the list? but yes, i heard a rumor b&s would play athens. i've seen mentions of the divine comedy. just today i got the new album, and how exciting! i imagine i will never ever see neil live, though. and for number three, have any of you listened to old Donovan stuff? he sings just like stu. if someone is paying attention here, please say something to me. cristina +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From leggattn at xxx.edu Sat Sep 19 22:04:51 1998 From: leggattn at xxx.edu (N Leggatt) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: hi, hello and help In-Reply-To: <36041B80.1F2A1B89@ufl.edu> Message-ID: >and for number three, have any of you listened to old Donovan stuff? he sings just like stu. < yes, i have, but i don't hear the comparison. there, someone said something to you. hope you're happy. N __ "So many things we never will undo I know you're sorry, I'm sorry too Some people will offer you their hand and some won't Last night I knew you, tonight I don't" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sat Sep 19 22:05:26 1998 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:05:26 PDT Subject: Sinister: wow me too and why are they poking him with a stick? Message-ID: <19980919210526.28417.qmail@hotmail.com> Kenny/Jake cried over: 1.The bit in Lion King when Simba's dad is killed. Oh me too! Even after watching it many times..usually,you get toughened up by x many times of watching it,and I usually never even cry at all. oooh..I could've just KILLED that Mustafa! (at least he get's what he deserves) Sorry,I just had to comment on that,because it's so true. That was one Disney movie I really loved. deep question:Why are they poking Chris with a stick on the cover of The Boy With The Arab Strap???...oh and I'm afraid to say,to the person who thinks Chris is lovely and doesn't want other people looking at him,well my friend really didn't think much of them,but once she saw that cover she went 'WOWZA! I want that under my Xmas tree!' So look out Chris...they're all after you now...you're going to have to start talking like that Maxwell singer,in every interview Chris,you have to go 'I want women to stop looking at me,it's about the music ok? music is what's sexy anyways,if you can look past this body' and then stop suddenly and go 'can't touch this' like mc hammer song... anyways,i think you're ALL wowza-worthy and there's even one of you i want under my christmas tree,jolly good! jolly jolly jolly! genevieve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ciaran at xxx.net Sat Sep 19 22:17:56 1998 From: ciaran at xxx.net (ciaran at xxx.net) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 22:17:56 +0100 Subject: Sinister: music Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980919221756.00793ce0@mail.clara.net> hello what are the main musical loves of this list bar B&S? C. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From leggattn at xxx.edu Sat Sep 19 22:26:52 1998 From: leggattn at xxx.edu (N Leggatt) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: music In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980919221756.00793ce0@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: bob dylan, tom waits, elvis costello, the clash, lou reed, they might be giants, the dubliners, r.e.m., johnny cash, squirrel nut zippers. N __ "So many things we never will undo I know you're sorry, I'm sorry too Some people will offer you their hand and some won't Last night I knew you, tonight I don't" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stiner at xxx.edu Sat Sep 19 22:43:40 1998 From: stiner at xxx.edu (Cristina Cacioppo) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 17:43:40 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Re: music Message-ID: <3604258C.C8300A6B@ufl.edu> favorites: the divine comedy, pulp, elliot smith, supergrass, tindersticks, rod stewart (yes!), radiohead, the zombies +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Sat Sep 19 22:44:47 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 17:44:47 EDT Subject: Sinister: "everybody SHADDUP thish shong'sh about ME!!!!!" Message-ID: <58af6276.360425cf@aol.com> Debbie wrote: <> I know this celtic/rangers a load of ares, but I couldn't help but be cheered when I first read this: Ink Polaroid#2 ''....Anything you want! Which is what (mark jones) said he would give us if we would do a record for him. So Chris promptly drew up a list that included a pair of forty inch flares, a date with Kate Moss, and celtic to win the league cup. I don't think he's seen any of them yet.'' (by Stuart David) I think this answers your question. Incidentally, it fits quite nicely with things to make a young boy sigh. Well, this young boy, anyway. (I'd of said spurs to win the FA cup, but that wouldn't so much make me sigh, as cease to breathe altogether.) Popkids! 'Dimanche Desue'! 'C'est Absent'! Please, does *anyone* know anything about this record? I need to know! seb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Sat Sep 19 22:51:29 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 17:51:29 -0400 Subject: Sinister: music In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980919221756.00793ce0@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: At 17:17 -0400 9/19/98, ciaran at clara.net wrote: [hello [ [ [what are the main musical loves of this list bar B&S? [ [C. [ i'll bite (god i've been posting a lot lately) the smiths morrissey the jesus and mary chain radiohead and a whole bunch of other stuff but those are the main ones. -kerry "well it comes with the hurt and the guilt and the memories. if i had to take them with me i would never get from my bed . . . (do you really think you keep it all that well hid?) no, but i travel light." -tindersticks, "travelling light" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SpaceboyUK at xxx.com Sat Sep 19 22:56:02 1998 From: SpaceboyUK at xxx.com (SpaceboyUK at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 17:56:02 EDT Subject: Sinister: i guess nobody wants to help out? Message-ID: so nobody is willing to tape a live show or a session for me, who has been enjoying helping out all the sinisterines with their tigermilk dilemas and so on..... ok. -a.james +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From horst at xxx.br Sat Sep 19 23:23:05 1998 From: horst at xxx.br (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Henrique_Horst?=) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 19:23:05 -0300 Subject: Sinister: music Message-ID: <01bde41c$137cb8c0$0afaf9c8@dalila.com.br.aptness.com.br> Waterboys Smiths Friends of Dean Martinez Felt Durutti Column Barry White Coltrane Mendelssohn what are yours, C ? -----Mensagem original----- De: ciaran at clara.net Para: sinister at majordomo.net Data: Sábado, 19 de Setembro de 1998 17:44 Assunto: Sinister: music > >hello > > >what are the main musical loves of this list bar B&S? > >C. > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sat Sep 19 21:37:36 1998 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 13:37:36 PDT Subject: Sinister: 'if you're lost,you can look and you will find me'.....oh dear Message-ID: <19980919203736.22158.qmail@hotmail.com> hello hello dear misters and missys, sadly,i am no longer subscribed to the mailing list thanks to some sick bastard i had to cancel my internet subscription,but i can make do with reading on the internet pages...but i'm not down,no..actually i think i'm in love,why else would i be singing along with that stupid song on the radio right now 'if you fall,i will catch you I WILL BE WAITING! time,after time...time after time' aaaa save me so there's a whole bunch of messages out there..i like simple things too! that's a fantastic song,didn't i just write a huge post about how much i love it? oh well..yesssm i think people should write ways how to make a young ****** ***** boy sigh..well i'd like to know anyways...hopefully they sigh over a certain someone's presence,smiles and gushy lovely things like that.... i mean it's simple things that make a young boy sigh isn't it? so give them a chocolate kiss i haven't been able to get my ticket yet,and edginess is only half-kicking in so far,a slight anxious feeling...but other than that...ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh kiss kiss (chocolate) Genevieve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Sat Sep 19 23:47:40 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 15:47:40 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Sweet FA Message-ID: <002001bde41f$863ff720$d99fcdcf@brier> Could any Brits please shed light on what on earth "Sweet F.A." is???? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jaumebt at xxx.es Sun Sep 20 00:26:23 1998 From: jaumebt at xxx.es (Jaume Benedito Tejera) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 01:26:23 +0200 Subject: Sinister: music Message-ID: <01bde424$ea5c1220$LocalHost@jaumebtmeridian> After a month reading your mails, this is my first post, hello to everyone. My favorites: Divine Comedy, Pulp, The Smiths, Suede, Tindersticks, R.E.M., Burt Bacharach, Dominique A, Radiohead, The Jam. I´m from Barcelona, and i could saw B&S live just a year ago in the BAM festival, i only have their second and third albums but i love them. Jaume. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mayfly8 at xxx.com Sun Sep 20 01:01:21 1998 From: mayfly8 at xxx.com (Kristy Fraser) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 17:01:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Music Message-ID: <19980920000121.17690.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> So, I'm new to the list and this is my first post. Here it goes..... My favourites include: pulp, elvis costello, suede, the smiths, the jesus and mary chain and sloan. I just got my tickets to see B&S in Toronto.... any ideas on what I can expect from the show??? K _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From leggattn at xxx.edu Sun Sep 20 01:16:17 1998 From: leggattn at xxx.edu (N Leggatt) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 17:16:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Sweet FA In-Reply-To: <002001bde41f$863ff720$d99fcdcf@brier> Message-ID: why only brits? sweet fuck all. N __ "So many things we never will undo I know you're sorry, I'm sorry too Some people will offer you their hand and some won't Last night I knew you, tonight I don't" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aaronm at xxx.edu Sun Sep 20 01:47:37 1998 From: aaronm at xxx.edu (Aaron Madrigal) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 17:47:37 -0700 Subject: Sinister: music Message-ID: <2.2.32.19980920004737.00684930@uclink4.Berkeley.edu> Magnetic Fields, Beethoven, Franck, Smiths, Belly, Lush, REM, Lalo, VU, Throwing Muses (Kristin Hersh), New Order, John Coltrane. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bjw at xxx.edu Sun Sep 20 02:01:15 1998 From: bjw at xxx.edu (B. Williamson) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 18:01:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: music Message-ID: You know how these things evolve - there's the bands of historical importance - in my case: New Order, Throwing Muses, The Lilac Time, Bauhaus, Erasure, etc. - and those that are getting a heavy listening to these days - Heavenly, Saint Etienne, Unrest, Teenage Fanclub, 60's (northern) soul compilations, and dance collections like UrbalBeats and (embarrassed flush) the MTV Amp discs. Ciao, Brian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Sun Sep 20 02:45:41 1998 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 03:45:41 +0200 Subject: Sinister: music References: <3.0.5.32.19980919221756.00793ce0@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: <36045E44.AB714CD6@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Soni youth, pavement, first stone roses, smiths , nick drake , pulp , RHCP, suicide sonnets, suede , violent femmes , the only ones, velvet underground. Marco#7. ciaran at clara.net ha scritto: > hello > > what are the main musical loves of this list bar B&S? > > C. > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nmarino at xxx.edu Sun Sep 20 04:44:20 1998 From: nmarino at xxx.edu (Nicholas Joseph Marino) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 22:44:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Re: music In-Reply-To: <199809200000.BAA16152@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Smiths, Pulp, REM, Bjork, Portishead, Miles Davis, Coltrane, Neutral Milk Hotel, Pixies Nick +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bluepoets at xxx.com Sun Sep 20 04:46:04 1998 From: Bluepoets at xxx.com (Bluepoets at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 23:46:04 EDT Subject: Sinister: mix tapes, web site, feedback Message-ID: <5b0e8d51.36047a7c@aol.com> hey boys and girls! to anyone who e-mailed me about mix tapes, i need you addresses again, all my e-mail has been erased. and to all you who are interested into looking at a complete strangers web site, my new site is up, the address is http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Parc/8792/index.html OR http://surf.to/feeling.blue be sure to sign the guestbook, and give me some intial feedback, its only in its beginning stages so please be kind :) see you all in e-mail land your friend the spaceman +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SpaceboyUK at xxx.com Sun Sep 20 04:51:47 1998 From: SpaceboyUK at xxx.com (SpaceboyUK at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 23:51:47 EDT Subject: Sinister: MUSIC!! (may as well) (Re: music) Message-ID: <4eae6f74.36047bd3@aol.com> pulp,mineral,sunny day,my bloody valentine,rick wakeman,YES,etc.,etc. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From komis at xxx.edu Sun Sep 20 05:02:45 1998 From: komis at xxx.edu (Dmitry Komis) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 23:02:45 -0500 Subject: Sinister: music Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19980919230245.0079f6c0@students.uiuc.edu> Hi I'm new. I am finally responding, eventhough I've been reading your mails for a week now. I'm 18, from Chicago (blah, blah, blah).....B&S isn't really popular here, but they just dont know what they're missing. Anyway, I'm glad I can finally be apart of this. My favorites are: Velvet Underground, Bjork, P.J. Harvey, Pavement, Massive Attack, Yo La Tengo, Radiohead, Tori Amos, Beth Orton, Portishead, Tricky. bye, dmitry +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TheeXVirus at xxx.com Sun Sep 20 07:55:04 1998 From: TheeXVirus at xxx.com (TheeXVirus at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 02:55:04 EDT Subject: Sinister: music Message-ID: <4742e8f7.3604a6c8@aol.com> Ok here are some of mine... Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds Joy Division Nick Drake Cranes Tear Garden Birthday PArty Tom Waits Jesus and Mary Chain Pulp Adverts Hovercraft Tricky Velvet Underground +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Zschwa23 at xxx.com Sun Sep 20 07:55:40 1998 From: Zschwa23 at xxx.com (Zschwa23 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 02:55:40 EDT Subject: Sinister: music Message-ID: <5f226d78.3604a6ec@aol.com> music: Buffalo Tom (new album Sept. 29); Booth + Bad Angel; Pavement; Radiohead; Yo La Tengo; Sea + Cake; Ocean Blue; James; Lemonheads. First-time caller. Depressed at the gig dates in which I cannot attend. Trapped in the musical abyss known as Miami FLA. Kills me that I am unable to get away from bloody work. But I am not bitter. Z +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SpaceboyUK at xxx.com Sun Sep 20 08:13:21 1998 From: SpaceboyUK at xxx.com (SpaceboyUK at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 03:13:21 EDT Subject: Sinister: Re: Musiic ii ii ii ii ii ii ii ii (and questions,so dont delete) Message-ID: i guess i may as well add some more on that i forgot last time: radiohead beach boys buddy holly teenage fanclub sense field joan of arc of montreal echo & the bunnymen jeremy enigk yo la tengo june of 44 Rascals stereolab arab strap and others......... QUESTIONS: could someone tell me what the qebsite was where the promo copy of BWTAS was being sold? thanks. -a.james +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rakow at xxx.edu Sun Sep 20 08:49:05 1998 From: rakow at xxx.edu (jennifer rakowski) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 02:49:05 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Hi - and yeah Message-ID: <3604B371.B26926C@ou.edu> Hello - I am new. I live in the middle of nowhere. Hello Travis, Jubilee (Sarah), and Matt. Other music I like: Radiohead Tori Amos Sundays Stereolab Tom Waits Sarah McLachlan Morcheeba Sting Beck Portishead Depeche Mode Simon and Garfunkel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snekyscp at xxx.net Sun Sep 20 09:20:13 1998 From: snekyscp at xxx.net (snekyscp at xxx.net) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 01:20:13 -0700 Subject: Sinister: music Message-ID: <3604BABC.EB865575@prodigy.net> music: lush, stereolab, blonde redhead, charlatans, james, pulp, pavement note: in a slump because b&s are not coming anywhere near san francisco. i guess i'll just have to wait until january susie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ciaran at xxx.net Sun Sep 20 09:30:05 1998 From: ciaran at xxx.net (ciaran at xxx.net) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 09:30:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: music In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980919221756.00793ce0@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980920093005.007cfd30@mail.clara.net> Hi since i asked here is my $0.02 of mucical loves: fugazi make up air miami unrest his name is alive(except home is in your head) a house pixies throwing muses ( not belly ) seely tortoise st . etienne beech boys air unilab=stereolab+ui thievery corps. beastie boys(pauls B. + check you head not hello nasty) c. At 22:17 19/09/98 +0100, you wrote: > >hello > > >what are the main musical loves of this list bar B&S? > >C. > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vegasbaby at xxx.com Sun Sep 20 10:11:31 1998 From: vegasbaby at xxx.com (Courtney Knopf) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 02:11:31 PDT Subject: Sinister: Re: music Message-ID: <19980920091131.18657.qmail@hotmail.com> ben folds five, pulp, frank sinatra, indigo swing, komeda, that dog., weezer, they might be giants, elliot smith, pernice brothers, rufus wainwright, squirrel nut zippers, sean lennon, beth orton, brian setzer, tori amos, stan getz, crowded house, elvis costello, the BEATLES, ella fitzgerald, morphine, morcheeba, blur, phantom planet, jump little children, zumpano, bjork, bobby darin. and if you are inclined to agree with my taste, i encourage you all to tune in to my radio show here at USC. you can get in Real Audio by clicking on the LIVE link at http://kscr.usc.edu. my show is on every tuesday night from midnight to 4 am pacific time. which would be 8am to noon on wednesdays in the UK. please tune in! ~Courtney The Sultraness of Swing "I see Mr. Chompers as a modern-day Tom Joad." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aaronm at xxx.edu Sun Sep 20 11:28:24 1998 From: aaronm at xxx.edu (Aaron Madrigal) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 03:28:24 -0700 Subject: Sinister: re:music Message-ID: <2.2.32.19980920102824.00684b38@uclink4.Berkeley.edu> I forgot some last time, so here are more. Broadcast, Pavement, Sundays, Stereolab, Future Bible Heroes. I think that's all. Aaron +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aaronm at xxx.edu Sun Sep 20 11:32:08 1998 From: aaronm at xxx.edu (Aaron Madrigal) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 03:32:08 -0700 Subject: Sinister: tigermilk track list Message-ID: <2.2.32.19980920103208.0069fc38@uclink4.Berkeley.edu> Hello, Does anyone (this is a silly question) know the track list for tigermilk? I just got it in the mail yesterday, and the person who sent it to me forgot to list the song titles. OOOPS! Aaron +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gipper at xxx.edu Sun Sep 20 11:52:53 1998 From: gipper at xxx.edu (ramon) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 03:52:53 -0700 Subject: Sinister: artists aside from belle and sebastian that i like Message-ID: <3604DE84.9009F87B@uclink4.berkeley.edu> tori amos pulp suede blur joan osborne suzanne vega liz phair pj harvey new order madonna portishead bjork radiohead sundays amon tobin ani difranco sexpot mariah carey +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From thunderw at xxx.uk Sun Sep 20 00:44:15 1998 From: thunderw at xxx.uk (James) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 00:44:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: sisters Message-ID: My fourteen year old sister wants to change her name to Mary Jo! Five things to make a young boy sigh: 1.a young girl sighing 2.a northern sky 3.a place that feels like home 4.a twilight adventure 5.an excess of alcohol (I have these on good authority) Is anyone going to see Vic Chesnutt and Lambchop in Camden on October 14th?I'm coming down from Birmingham, but I'm on my lonesome... Oooh, Manics and Mogwai on Monday! hooray! love and yellow bricks Molly xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Sun Sep 20 12:19:13 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 13:19:13 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Stewpot is a Scottish Cow Message-ID: <01bde488$7ff21a60$LocalHost@itjfvkli> See last neet? Ah went tae tha fuckin pictures an it wes a fuckin filum an it wes "The Acid Hoos" an it wes fuckin barry, so it wes, an it's got fuckin Belle an Sebastian in it, singin an that, fuckin great man, and pure dead fuckin funny an that, fuck, youse should all goan see it, right as fuck. I reckon Stuart Murdoch's mammy an pappy'll be dead fuckin prood o their wee bairn when they see it, ken? Fuckin right. An then we saw that fuckin cunt oot a tha filum, Silence a tha Lambs, ken? An that Spanish teapot, Antoooniooo Bandeeeras, tha fuckin tube, and tha bird oaf that telly wi tha fuckin big jugs, Catherine Z!E!T!A! Jones, but she didnae say nowt, tha fuckin hoooer, so we fucked off back doon tha road an got fuckin blootered on a carry oot an some fuckin mental acid. Fuckin right. Get tae fuck. love, Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keithmwatson at xxx.com Sun Sep 20 13:42:09 1998 From: keithmwatson at xxx.com (Keith Watson) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 05:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Cheers Peter Message-ID: <19980920124209.3214.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> This is great, I've just entered a fantastic competition that's on the NME website, I'd just like to thank Peter in advance if I win for my prize... Here's the advert... Win a rocking night out courtesy of Miller! Enter our competition with Miller to win a fabulous night of rock'n'roll mystery, free beer and hotel high life... NME.com News 17 September 1998 Pretty good eh? The rock and roll mystery bit intrigues me too, does it mean I'm going to get to meet Colour me Badd? Cheers, Keith. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From noelani30 at xxx.com Sun Sep 20 14:50:12 1998 From: noelani30 at xxx.com (Jessica Noelani Wright) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 06:50:12 PDT Subject: Sinister: music: everyone else is doing it Message-ID: <19980920135013.19799.qmail@hotmail.com> ok, i was going to avoid this question. but since EVERYONE else is answering, i'll participate too. =) beautiful south everything but the girl blur lightningseeds new order (AND monaco) omd pulp pet shop boys split enz judybats james ben folds five radiohead sundays trash can sinatras squeeze world party toad the wet sprocket xtc ocean colour scene ocean blue texas stereolab stone roses (first album) To name just a few..... anyone seen the film "niagara niagara"? sad, but really good -jess ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Alan.Holding at xxx.fr Sun Sep 20 15:12:30 1998 From: Alan.Holding at xxx.fr (Alan.Holding) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 16:12:30 +0200 Subject: Sinister: music Message-ID: <004301bde4a0$c7e7cf00$01118aa4@none.wanadoo.fr> erm, i've over 400 albums... how am i supposed to choose? at the moment, a lot of Smiths(especially "i know it's over"), Mogwai, Kraftwerk, Felt, erm...Andy Williams, Suicide (scares the neighbours), The Fall (early stuff) and Kitchens of Distinction... oh, and a few of the songs on that Embrace album, although i think not supposed to. Another thing: am i alone in being slightly *disappointed* by the new B&S album? Alan -----Message d'origine----- De : ciaran at clara.net À : sinister at majordomo.net Date : samedi 19 septembre 1998 23:19 Objet : Sinister: music hello what are the main musical loves of this list bar B&S? C. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From oldhamcounty14 at xxx.com Sun Sep 20 17:11:57 1998 From: oldhamcounty14 at xxx.com (jane mclellan) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 09:11:57 PDT Subject: Sinister: guest singer (????) Message-ID: <19980920161157.9015.qmail@hotmail.com> hey all! i was wondering if anyone knew who the 'guest singer' on 'Lazy-Line Painter Jane' is? it might say it somewhere on the record and i'm just an idiot.. please enlighten me! jane ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 4xh3haysm at xxx.edu Sun Sep 20 17:09:36 1998 From: 4xh3haysm at xxx.edu (Maggie Hays) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:09:36 -0500 Subject: Sinister: re:music Message-ID: <360528C0.2AEE@marquette.edu> Hi everyone! This is only my second post, but I have been floating for a while now. Here are my music picks: Sunny Day Real Estate (new cd out on Tuesday I think..they're also touring some cities) Jeremy Enigk Ben Folds Five Radiohead The Promise Ring Weezer Rentals Smoking Popes Hayden They Might Be Giants Sean Lennon Enjoy! ---Maggie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From smfisher at xxx.edu Sun Sep 20 17:28:21 1998 From: smfisher at xxx.edu (Stephanie) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:28:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: music In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980919221756.00793ce0@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: Well, I've been on the list for a while, and told myself I should start writing. Plus I know a lot of people are using this as an "introduction". So hi, I'm Stephanie, I'm 21, from Athens, of course I think Belle & Sebastian are lovely... Besides them, I like: Super Furry Animals, Manics, Stone Roses (including the later stuff even though the first album's the best), Olivia Tremor Control, Gorky's, Nick Drake, Blur, Kenickie (although I haven't heard the new stuff yet), Tullycraft, Spiritualized, Beach Boys, Catatonia...and lots more of course but I think those are my favorites, more or less. Cheers & love, Stephanie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk Sun Sep 20 17:50:57 1998 From: Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk (Sarah Wheeler) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 17:50:57 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Aspirin anyone?? Message-ID: <199809201650.RAA24534@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk> Please stop listing bands.......it's making my head thump. I'm sorry to be such a grouch, but I'm trying to finish my final chapter on my thesis.....Ah hah, maybe that's why my head hurts. I wish I was in my bedroom wearing my cardie and nibbling biscuits. Byeeee Grumpy x ======================= Sarah Wheeler Room 106 West Medical Building University of Glasgow GLASGOW G12 8QQ 0141-339 8855 ext.2860 ======================= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Sun Sep 20 18:01:48 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 13:01:48 -0400 Subject: Sinister: simple things Message-ID: well, me and a friend came up with a list of 6 things to ask to make a young boy sigh: 1. would it make you smile? 2. can you hide the tears? 3. can you ever hide it deep enough inside you? 4. do you really think you keep it all that well hid? 5. didn't you hear her crying? 6. why did you keep quiet? -kerry "the best looking boys are taken, the best looking girls are staying inside." -belle and sebastian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dubet at xxx.edu Sun Sep 20 18:11:20 1998 From: dubet at xxx.edu (The Dude, a.k.a. Timmy D.) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 13:11:20 -0400 Subject: Sinister: hmmmm Message-ID: <36053738.D15EE78A@mail4.bc.edu> Why is is that these mailing lists are always quite silly? I would have listed my favorite bands, but Sarah told me not to (hahaha) so I won't. I guess I'll just say that I have tickets to the show October 13th in Boston, Massachusetts and I can get more if people are interested (that isn't a real promise, but an effort statement more or less). This is my first message, so please don't bite me. Cheers and robots, Tim in Boston +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Sun Sep 20 18:29:48 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 13:29:48 -0400 Subject: Sinister: hmmmm In-Reply-To: <36053738.D15EE78A@mail4.bc.edu> Message-ID: At 13:11 -0400 9/20/98, The Dude, a.k.a. Timmy D. wrote: [Why is is that these mailing lists are always quite silly? I would have [listed my favorite bands, but Sarah told me not to (hahaha) so I won't. [I guess I'll just say that I have tickets to the show October 13th in [Boston, Massachusetts and I can get more if people are interested (that [isn't a real promise, but an effort statement more or less). [ [This is my first message, so please don't bite me. [ [Cheers and robots, [ [Tim in Boston wait a minute! are there two shows in boston? because i have tickets to see them on the 21st in boston at the BU morse auditorium. sooo, unless they changed the date or there's two shows or something, i'm very confused. -kerry "the best looking boys are taken, the best looking girls are staying inside." -belle and sebastian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paula at xxx.uk Sun Sep 20 18:31:40 1998 From: paula at xxx.uk (paula wiseman) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 18:31:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: music Message-ID: <36053BFA.7BCC144C@hannoncom.prestel.co.uk> My faves are; The Divine Comedy, Gene, Ash, The Beautiful South, Lightning Seeds, Jack, John Barry, Radiohead, etc etc Paula xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Sun Sep 20 18:45:27 1998 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 13:45:27 EDT Subject: Sinister: music loves Message-ID: <84729013.36053f37@aol.com> Albert Ayler, Tori Amos, Beel & Sebastian, Marc Bolan/T.Rex, Sun Ra, John Cage, Stockhausen, Suede, The Who, Led Zep, Joe Harriott, John Coltrane, John Fahey, Fairport Convention, Roy Harper, Prince, Verve, Neil Young, Eric Dolphy, Charles Mingus, Xennakis, Shellac, Slint, Palace, Robert Wyatt, Velvet Underground, Can, Harry Partch, Sony Sharrock, Sun City Girls, No Neck Blues Band, Nick Drake, Dylan, MEV, Kraftwerk, Moondog, Hendrix, the Frogs, 808 State, Irving Klaw Trio, Tony Conrad, La Monte Young, Ghost, Lennon, Bowie, Daft Punk, Rundgren, Royal Trux, Rufus Harley, Pharoah Sanders, Roland Kirk, Fela Kuti, Ravi Shankar, Pentangle, Morton Feldman, Earle Brown, JB's, James Burton, Neu, Embryo, .... to name a few... Pete Gianakopoulos +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Sun Sep 20 18:47:58 1998 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 13:47:58 EDT Subject: Sinister: music love I forgot Message-ID: David Bowie Pete G. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pharkle at xxx.de Sun Sep 20 18:50:53 1998 From: pharkle at xxx.de (Alex Farrill) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1998 13:50:53 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V2 #363 References: <199809201651.RAA01160@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34240CFD.A69457D5@gmx.de> pavement stereolab yo la tengo aphex twin underworld fsol kraftwerk jon spencer delta '72 bek radiohead supergrass crystal method orbital > hello > > what are the main musical loves of this list bar B&S? > > C. > -- *************pharkle at gmx.de*************** Dig a really deep pit in a public park, and cover it over with sticks and leaves. Come back the next day and see how many joggers you've captured. Keep them alive in there until they swear allegiance to you. Now you have an UNHOLY ARMY OF JOGGERS! ****************************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From thunderw at xxx.uk Sun Sep 20 18:27:05 1998 From: thunderw at xxx.uk (James) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 18:27:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: are we still on these lists? oh what the hell...... Message-ID: <199809201806.TAA26748@sand.global.net.uk> Manics, Suede, Urusei Yatsura, Arab Atrap, Mogwai, Vic Chesnutt, Lambchop, REM, Kristin Hersh, Throwing Muses, Belly, The Pixies, Sugar, Nick Drake, Slint, Aerial M, Sebadoh, Pavement, Broadcast, Nirvana, Judy Garland, Mama Cass, The Beach Boys, Pulp, Patti Smith and eighties bubblegum P!O!P especially Madonna.... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Mon Sep 21 19:24:49 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 19:24:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Sarahs right. Message-ID: <199809201830.TAA11041@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Sarah wrote; Please stop listing bands.......it's making my head thump Now Jake writes; Please stop listing bands.......it's making my head thump. Sorry to have to be the one who says this, but things are starting to get a little bit repetitious on this front. That is about 30 people who have now decided to take it upon themselves to tell a likeminded group of people that they like the same sort of music as them. Ground breaking stuff! Can we just leave it there, please. Oh and while I'm here can i just make a quick plea? Can anyone do me a tape of the stuff that V-TWIN and LOOPER have released? I would have bought them myself but my local indie is the crappest place you can imagine, I almost died of shock to see that they had Philophobia on the shelves within a month of its release. And for some reason they decided that they just wouldn't stock any stuff by B&S. And it's not that they have had it in and it has just sold out. They never had it. It just means that I have to take my business to the Woolies down the road. Only joking. I just have to travel the 20 odd miles into Brighton to find a decent record shop. Still as B*Witched say. C'est la Vie Jake. Oh and by the way my favourite bands are...................... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sun Sep 20 20:17:39 1998 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:17:39 PDT Subject: Sinister: i want the money ooh ooh Message-ID: <19980920191739.29814.qmail@hotmail.com> these songs lists aren't giving me a headache,you know what gives me a headache yes? Those abbreviations! I cannot read them,what language is this! How you get TWATTYBUS out of this,so odd odd odd...umm i mean,geez i cannot even stop and WRITE the abbreivations for the album names... other music besides belle n sebastian: suede (brett,sigh) blood sweat & tears, the pastels , mccarthy, the temptations , arab strap (ooh baby) ,geneva ,blur , red sleeping beauty , kool & the gang , ccr ,al green , jack , pulp , orange juice the divine comedy , eggstone , the pernice brothers , spiritualized,the go-betweens (yes that's RIGHT Arctic Woman! Hi YAA ninja chop!) the clash , gang of four , the buzzcocks , sly & the family stone, massive attack so where have you all gone?i haven't seen much action on here lately,except for that whole scandlous trousers and chris and monsieur bobby chariot bit,what was that all about anyways. someone told me that sweet f.a actually means 'sweet fanny adams' instead of f all,but that doesn't make sense! anyways,i felt stupid at the time,and i still do,who's fanny adams? she sounds like a character on my old maid playing cards,nurse nelly,stringbean steen (and WOW i didn't know seymour stein was a real person? did youse all know that? what a cool name!) etc do i need to know? thankyou baby!da nuh..thankyou BABY genevieve mcfiddle ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dubet at xxx.edu Sun Sep 20 20:38:51 1998 From: dubet at xxx.edu (The Dude, a.k.a. Timmy D.) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:38:51 -0400 Subject: Sinister: hmmmm References: Message-ID: <360559CB.FD57CC24@mail4.bc.edu> Ooops! I'm sorry, it's the 21st at BU...I'm just a silly nincompoop... tim azriel wrote: > > At 13:11 -0400 9/20/98, The Dude, a.k.a. Timmy D. wrote: > [Why is is that these mailing lists are always quite silly? I would have > [listed my favorite bands, but Sarah told me not to (hahaha) so I won't. > [I guess I'll just say that I have tickets to the show October 13th in > [Boston, Massachusetts and I can get more if people are interested (that > [isn't a real promise, but an effort statement more or less). > [ > [This is my first message, so please don't bite me. > [ > [Cheers and robots, > [ > [Tim in Boston > > wait a minute! are there two shows in boston? because i have tickets to see > them on the 21st in boston at the BU morse auditorium. > sooo, unless they changed the date or there's two shows or something, i'm > very confused. > > -kerry > > "the best looking boys are taken, the best looking girls are staying inside." > -belle and sebastian > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sun Sep 20 20:41:18 1998 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:41:18 PDT Subject: Sinister: whose those scots Message-ID: <19980920194118.25945.qmail@hotmail.com> oh yeah..i forgot to ask this question, ummm my friend told me about some scottish band and they are playing here,the tannahill beavers? (i think ?) who are they? i've never heard of them..are they good? it's not aidan from arab strap side project is it? the one where he blows into that jug and that old man dances? old grey mare,she ain't what she used to be genevieve p.s. funky seb,if we're talking models here,you should be a young boy sighing at the thought of kristy hume in flares instead of kate moss,kristy's more hip,she's scottish,she's got donovan's son donovan and has the lovliest wedding dress. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Gizmo451 at xxx.com Sun Sep 20 21:28:54 1998 From: Gizmo451 at xxx.com (Gizmo451 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 16:28:54 EDT Subject: Sinister: music/movies Message-ID: Music.. so much to say, so little time.. ben folds five, nofx, against all authority, mephiskapheles, mxpx, blink182, less than jake, liz phair, some dylan, goldfinger, pietasters, all, save ferris, reel big fish, voodoo glow skulls, beastie boys, suicide machines, shangrilas, rancid, bad religion, millencolin, gadjits, hippos, buck o nine, lets go bowling, springheeled jack, toasters, the specials, and so on and so on... other ska/punk/swing bands mostly.. on a side note... what are some of the listee's movies of choice? --Lara http://members.tripod.com/~LaraRules +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Sun Sep 20 21:16:00 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 21:16:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Steps, what else?! Message-ID: Belle and Sebastian have complete sold out, how dare they. Sorry that was goign to be a big funny and imensley sarcastic rant, but I'm not in the moood. I smell of mushrooms and it is not amusing. I do not like this working lark. No no. I doth not approve. Pooookie! We've all been quiet cos we haev been droooowned like the drowners (ooh slow down why don't you!!!) with "musicwotoiloikes" posts. Speaking of which will I get shot down in flames for really liking whatever the latest 5ive single is? It makes me giggle and laugh, I love it. Aren't Steps ABBA? They just ARE. Oooh how scary. Can you just imagine four people.....late night. Two boys, and two girls....wearing all white costumes. GIRL A - Brrr Shaggy, I don't like this.....having to swim to Sweden is bad enough, but then have to wait about in a graveyard till *lightning strikes* Witching Hour....it just gives me the gosh darned spooks. GIRL B - Yes Daphne, but this is no ordinary graveyard....read the sacred names inscribed onto the cold hard marble of death....say the names with me girl!! Say them!!! AND KNOW who you worship!!!! *all start chanting* BJORN! BENNY! AGENETHA! THE OTHER ONE!! FRIEDA!! THATS HER! BOY C - *owl tweets* AHA! NOw the hour has come. *all put on their ceromonial tank tops* *start dancing in a strange, yet somewhatdestinedtobecopiedbymanypeoplea llovertheglobe manner round the tombstone of 1975orwheneverABBAwerehitsi dunno* (getting spooked yet?) BOY D - AAAZAAAUUURGHH!! I seem to be growing boy band hair!!! And forsooth! I have piano riffs going ROUND AnD ROUND IN MY HEAD!!! AARUGH! *falls to the ground twitching* GIRL A AND GIRL B however look mesmerised. 'Something' now has hold of them. They stare up to the sky in an enraptured manner, and eat the heads of virgin bellend semenstain fans, somehow managin not to get any lilly liverd blood all over their nice white outfits. Aren't Steps clever kids? They scream to the sky... *all* ABBA! COME TO US!!!!! And thus our tale ends....and P!O!O!P! history begins. Don't have nightmares - remember, ITS ONLY ROCK'N'ROLL! AND ITS PLASTIC, PLASTIC YES IT IS!!!!!! I scare myself. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Candarel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rakow at xxx.edu Sun Sep 20 21:43:28 1998 From: rakow at xxx.edu (jennifer rakowski) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:43:28 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Hi - and yeah References: <3944d677.3605046e@aol.com> Message-ID: <360568F0.E48840B6@ou.edu> > In a message dated 9/20/98 4:03:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rakow at ou.edu > writes: > > << Hello - > I am new. I live in the middle of nowhere. > > Hello Travis, Jubilee (Sarah), and Matt. >> > > Surely you don't mean me? :) Well as for Travis, I mean the only other Oklahoman I believe to be on this list. =)and Matt Langham from England. I know there are prolly lots of ppl w/ the same names on this list, sorry I didn't specify. Take care Jennifer +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aaronm at xxx.edu Sun Sep 20 22:14:02 1998 From: aaronm at xxx.edu (Aaron Madrigal) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 14:14:02 -0700 Subject: Sinister: music Message-ID: <2.2.32.19980920211402.006a72f0@uclink4.Berkeley.edu> You said: >Another thing: am i alone in being slightly *disappointed* by the new B&S album? I also am (very, very, very) slightly disappointed in the new albumn, only beacause I thought that it'd be better than Sinister and Tigermilk. But I think it's slightly inferior to Sinister (I feel guilty already for applying that adjective). BYE, Aaron +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Sun Sep 20 22:57:17 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 22:57:17 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: books and films and sweets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > on a side note... what are some of the listee's movies of choice? Noooo, please don't hate me, but could you all slow down a bit on these lists please? I've had a few comments now from people and it's time to have a little mumsy word even though I don't like doing it so much. We've had lists of these things relatively recently, including several film threads that ran for a long time, and if they're just lists, they have a tendency to just drown the mailing list and, well, take away that special something that this list's always had. The something that is due to YOU lot putting your *feelings* and yourselves into your posts. Lists of things are fine in some contexts and spark things off, I guess, but I really feel that on a list with limited, borrowed, part-time resources like this, we need posts that take considered thought, and a little bit of your lives. Especially in the context of a rapidly expanding mailing list with a lot of (nice) history. I guess I'm asking you all to do your bit to keep this list alive now please - its limited resources are threatened if there's a deluge of multiple short, knee-jerk mails. There's an old rule that I take very seriously here about thinking before you post, and considering whether the 680 (yes!) people who will receive your mail will want to know. Quality not quantity will keep this list special and ensure its survival. I'm sorry to bang on about this, especially to old and faithful readers, but it takes everyone to pull their weight. Besides, you can always check the archives for stuff you'd like to see first! There's bags and bags of references to other bands people like, and films people have watched, and books people have read, and sweets people have sucked. With comments too, and some talk of what they mean to them (Sandra Volaric loves gummy bears, for instance, and Michele's cats loves Jaffa Cakes). Please do go and look first. Really do, it can be fun. Archives this month: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/hypermail/current/ Archives all months: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/hypermail/ Search engine for archives: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/cgi-bin/sinister-search.cgi I've said all this a lot before and you've all rallied round magnificiently. I'll just repeat a few things for newcomers: o To read the FAQ on the WWW site - PLEASE - the thoughts on what to post are the result of a good few people's serious thought and seem to have worked well for 12 months. o To realise that, yes this is a hard balance - this list is a community and functions best when people share a bit of themselves and their lives with the rest of us. That it isn't a general music list, there are plenty of better resourced lists that can do that, or indeed you can start your own if you want something broader, but that of course what you listen too may well be of interest to others with some context. But that following a long thread which is miles away from this list's core will rarify the atmosphere, and interest fewer and fewer people, and, honestly, lower its chances of survival. It's a balance and everyone (definitely me) will get it wrong at times, but trying's what counts. Do your bit. o Don't be lazy, do a little legwork on the WWW before you ask a question - there's masses of information about the band, releases, etc etc on the WWW pages linked from the Sinister page. A question pushed out to 680 people before you look is likely to excite a few muted grrrs. o Be nice. If you like fights, go and join another list, there's plenty where you can vent your spleen. This list owner won't ever allow flaming or personal nastiness on this list, it's just a thing of mine and you'll have to live with it :) o If you're shy, don't be put off from posting because of all my lecturing! You're really very welcome, and we're all very nice really :) And to oldies on the list: please keep the faith as someone we all fancy says a lot. You don't have to go lecturing like I do, remember it's your job to just enjoy the list, play in the sandpit, and lend that new boy your bucket and spade once in a while and that little flag that goes on the top of the castle. He may have wet pants but he's probably a lot of fun. He's called Frobisher by the way, and his mum works in the chippie down the road. Oh and please before any of you do, don't take this personally or see any hidden message to anyone in this email! There are none! I love you all to the bottom of your little fluffy booties, really, and I can't wait to meet your grannie and that uncle of yours with the funny moustache at Christmas. Honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From leggattn at xxx.edu Sun Sep 20 23:41:29 1998 From: leggattn at xxx.edu (N Leggatt) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: music In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19980920211402.006a72f0@uclink4.Berkeley.edu> Message-ID: >But I think it's slightly inferior to Sinister (I feel guilty already for applying that adjective).< i've seen quite a few of these opinions so far. i agree, if _only_ for "space boy dream" which to me isn't worth listening to more than maybe twice. also i can't say i care for "seymour stein." does anyone think that arab strap is _better_ than sinister? and why? N __ "So many things we never will undo I know you're sorry, I'm sorry too Some people will offer you their hand and some won't Last night I knew you, tonight I don't" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Sun Sep 20 23:45:50 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:45:50 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Movies: Don't!! Message-ID: <003501bde4e8$6c1b0e60$719fcdcf@brier> Please feel free not to clog the list with your twenty favorite movies. No offense. Or maybe e-mail privately to the person who asked. It's just not that interesting to most of us. But I reallly mean no offense, and of course you can post whatever you want. Sorry. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From arab_strap at xxx.com Sun Sep 20 23:49:33 1998 From: arab_strap at xxx.com (Greg Pallis) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:49:33 PDT Subject: Sinister: many and myriad things Message-ID: <19980920224934.11711.qmail@hotmail.com> many and surreal coincidences abound in the wacky world of sinister! Not do i hear tell of someone called John.G, who is 15, english and likes b+S (wierd 'cos i know someone else who is called john.g, is 15 and english and okay, prefers arab strap to b+s, but thats not the point. actually i fit all those categories xcept the name, includeing the preffering b+s so, hmm..). Then i hear tell of someone called charlotte, who rumour has it may buy TOASTEDTEACAKES from swiis cottage! I bought it there! Hell, i live there! Incidently, i'm not gonna spam the list by boring everyone with my favourite bands (unless someone asks me politely), and since no-one replies to lil' old me anyway, I'll stop this deranged ramble now. Why would a woodchuck chuck wood? Greg ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stiner at xxx.edu Mon Sep 21 00:34:15 1998 From: stiner at xxx.edu (Cristina Cacioppo) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 19:34:15 -0400 Subject: Sinister: somebody, somewhere Message-ID: <360590F6.8B419B07@ufl.edu> hi. well someone had written me about well if i like the zombies maybe i see "she's not there" in "simple things". that email is floating somewhere here, but i can't find it. just wanted to say, as a matter of fact i do. but only after you pointed it out. cristina +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SpaceboyUK at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 01:20:02 1998 From: SpaceboyUK at xxx.com (SpaceboyUK at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 20:20:02 EDT Subject: Sinister: music(the new lp) Message-ID: <452b36e1.36059bb2@aol.com> in my own opinion: i think that tigermilks is the best album. and dog on wheels is the best EP. sinister and arab strap are about even with me. both great! i like seymour stein & spaceboy dream. if you cant appreciate what they are doing, then hey thats you,but i still have yet to hear a BAD b&s song. -a.james +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SpaceboyUK at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 01:21:13 1998 From: SpaceboyUK at xxx.com (SpaceboyUK at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 20:21:13 EDT Subject: Sinister: music(new LP) part 2 Message-ID: ALSO: to whoever thought that "is it wicked not to care" was not good and they dont like isobel's voice: i hate you. "is it wicked..." has become one of my favourites +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Blurfannj at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 01:57:55 1998 From: Blurfannj at xxx.com (Blurfannj at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 20:57:55 EDT Subject: Sinister: NY PIcnic vibes Message-ID: Hi just a quick hello to say thanks for such a groovy time in the park! You all rock. Hope to see you all again soon. Good luck w/ the new Buffy season Megan & Julie!! Hugs and cookies Ethan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Blurfannj at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 02:01:07 1998 From: Blurfannj at xxx.com (Blurfannj at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 21:01:07 EDT Subject: Sinister: IRC Message-ID: <49266d91.3605a553@aol.com> I'm trying to find the IRC chatroom for the band where everyone hangs... I have downloaded the software.. but to no avail. Can anyone give me some directions?? Thanks Eeeth +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Zschwa23 at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 02:42:38 1998 From: Zschwa23 at xxx.com (Zschwa23 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 21:42:38 EDT Subject: Sinister: my thoughts Message-ID: <3738a622.3605af0e@aol.com> Greetings from Miami...... It's been a year since I started listening to B + S, and I can say that, after a few listens, TWATTYBUS is infinitely better than Sinister. In fact, I listen to Jane and Wheels more than Sinister. I am no critic, I just know that Stuart's voice and the musical arrangements are more entrancing. Brilliant Career is mesmerizing. Care also is a g-dsend. Others, too. After discovering B + S, I now know how Richard Dreyfuss felt in Close Encounters: Utterly obsessed with something he had no control over. This is how i feel about the music. Radiohead and Buffalo Tom are the only others which, well, make me FEEL. During tonight's Rosh Ha Shana dinner lyrics to Brilliant Career were rolling off my tongue. My mom gave me some looks...I sympathize with you, Richard. I hope your journey was nice; mine certainly is. For three years I have been eagerly anticipating Buffalo Tom's next release (Sept. 29). It is, however, going to be quite difficult to eject TWATTY from my player. Cheers 5 things: 1) Ending to "Au Revoir Les Infants" 2) Thom Yorke's voice 3) "It could have been a brilliant career." 4) First date -- first kiss 5) Watching those around you grow old +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pulpbot at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 04:03:31 1998 From: Pulpbot at xxx.com (Pulpbot at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 23:03:31 EDT Subject: Sinister: dc show and new person stuff Message-ID: <41394bca.3605c203@aol.com> I see a few people on the list are going to the Black Cat show; anybody who is considering making the d.c. date should--it's a great, intimate club. Also, B&S fans should check out the Momus show at the Black Cat the week before. Momus is overeducated foppishness at its finest!! Just joined the list...overwhelmed by the amount of mail, but learned about the d.c. show early as a result, so thanks. Alas, I'm a bigger fan of "Sinister" and the "Lazy Line Painter Jane" and "3..6..9" EPs than "Arab Strap," but what the frick, it's a free world. For the U.S. fans, has anyone seen a B&S vid on MTV? And since I love lists (and disobeying rules): Pulp, Suede, Auteurs, Baader Meinhaaf, Sainte Etienne, Momus, Magnetic Fields and (early, now): Mekons, Joy Division, X Ray Spex, Wire, Gang of Four, Clash, Costello and all early female punk and Rough Trade stuff. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Mon Sep 21 04:57:13 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 23:57:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: notes from a rude grrrl Message-ID: hello boys and girls allright, so i was a little mean the other day (or just saying what everyone else thought, depending on who you asked) when i ranted a bit about reading the faq et al. well, i'm still having issues with getting 80 million emails a day (and *please* only write one or two a day of more than one line!!!!) but honey paul (aka ps mitchell to you newbies) was kind enough to point that out. so i'm trying to relax a bit. but anyway, there were a couple people who have been making me feel so lovely, all with their first posts. mr/ms c hall beguiled me into reading their full post, and i've been quite happy with julien boudreau's posts as well. charming newbies. i guess i'm trying to say that i love this mailing list, it's frightening to think how many of my friends are on it, whether i met them beforehand or afterwards. and i've met so many people who are now important to me through it.... urk, i sound silly i fear. but please, try to get a feel for the list and then write uniquely in a way that fits in. sorry for the rather serious nature of this post. i'm tired and a little annoyed right now, though i must say that the picnic this afternoon was utterly wonderful and i'm so glad to have met all you new folk, and that there *will* be further nyc picnics in the future. i'll try to post something about it tomorrow. xox megan ps, as there seems to be an interest in tigermilk, perhaps we should put together another system whereby someone hooks up people willing to *tape* copies with people who'd like one. i'll do it if no one else volunteers too. but *please* discuss this with me rather than the list. mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From danakil at xxx.fr Mon Sep 21 06:49:00 1998 From: danakil at xxx.fr (danakil) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 07:49:00 +0200 Subject: Sinister: absolute beginner Message-ID: <00f701bde523$890d2cc0$615d72c3@nfwenaxa> With eyes completely open, but nervous all the same...", so hi i'm cyrille. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From MWaggner at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 08:41:47 1998 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:41:47 EDT Subject: Sinister: NY PICNIC ENDS IN DISSOLUTION OF SCOTTISH BAND Message-ID: <32232baf.3606033b@aol.com> The NY Picnic finally came to be -- thanks Matt, for a great job organizing it! Here's what happened: 30+ Sinisterines met in East River Park for a delightful day in the sun as the breeze off the river reminded them of a summer wasting . The mighty states of New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Ohio and I-Know-There-Are-Others -I'm-Sorry-If-I've-Forgotten were represented. Delegates were also sent from across the pond. Food of all sorts was spread around on colorful picnic blankets by the river under some trees and the group undertook to lounge about in fetching twee fashion, discussing the state they were in and other simple things. All was going well until a squirrel, bearing a list of its Ten Favorite Bands written in numerical order on an acorn, attempted to descend from a tree, making threatening noises at Lauren who was sitting below. MickMcMick decided to fend it off with a chinese yoyo, setting off quite the rollercoaster ride of events (which, as you will see, put an end to the dreams of fame and fortune of a certain glaswegian octet). The squirrel decided to fight back and Mick was forced to retreat, tangling himself up in a bicycle left carelessly lying around by some dog on wheels. Mick was left bruised and battered on the ground, getting little sympathy from the rest of the group as it was quite clearly not very fucking belle and sebastian of him to go after the squirrel in the first place. "The boy done wrong again," agreed Ethan and Jessica. In an attempt to do something pretty while you can, Brian then tried to soothe everyone's angst over this troubling display by offering posters (which he had gotten from Matador by citing a close but completely untrue blood relationship to Seymour Stein) to one and all. Megan ("I never get any B&S souvenirs it's not fair") held out for the large special poster and Brian, in an attempt to be fair, decided to hold a competition. The beautiful poster was greased up with some honey from a sangwich shaped like a star, and tossed into the East River. Like Dylan in the movies, Megan jumped into the river without a look back in an attempt to have the poster as her own. The greased poster, however, kept slipping from her grasp, and she was halfway to Jonny's house across the river when she lost strength and began to sink. Sadly, most of the group were looking around the park and seeing other people going about their activities, drawn particularly to the stars of track and field who were competing beyond the footie fields. Laurel noticed that Megan was sinking and yelled "If you're feeling sinister, hold on!" and hailed a passing police boat while other listees asked each other "Is it wicked not to care?" and passed around Ben's cheese and cracker plate. The ensuing rescue operation caused quite a stir, and the press arrived. Megan was pulled from the water, shivering like a fox in the snow, while the chief of police, trying to claim his 3..6..9.. seconds of light gave his statement to the 10 o'clock news. He began by saying, "Me and the major here are pleased we could serve the public good. It is not safe to ease your feet in the sea when wearing a cardigan. Too many of these young "popsters" suffer serious injury each year." Meanwhile, a reporter from the NY Post, nosing about the picnic site, noticed a copy of a cd bearing the title The Boy With the Arab Strap. He surmised that this picnic was NOT the innocent little event it was purported to be and decided it was more likely a perverse cult led by some vicious foreign influence leading innocent Americans astray. Overhearing Joss and his two mates speaking under their breaths in foreign accents to a gentleman from Oxford, he alerted the authorities, who began questioning them regarding the chickfactor in the cult. Sadly, unable to answer satisfactorily due to an overdose of Taco Bell burritos, they were hauled off to jail and subsequently deported. Megan meanwhile decided she needed to sleep the clock around after her ordeal. She screamed to her roommate, "Get me away from here I'm dying" and began hitting the chief of police with her soggy prize poster (which she had refused to leave the water without). She too was taken away by the authorities and remains in custody while her recent trips to the former soviet union are investigated. The rest of the picnic group was sent to deprogrammers who questioned them about the significance of what dirty dream number two might mean. Mayor Giuliani called a press conference and declared that New York City would not put the book back on the shelf until the entire incident had been completely investigated. "Our crime statistics are the best they've ever been -- I've been the best mayor this city has seen in a century of fakers. This bunch of loopers, obviously under the influence of amphetameanies, will not ruin the safety of our citizens." As the sun set and the park emptied, a huge yacht sitting at anchor in the river began to move slowly out toward the Atlantic. Those with binoculars would have seen, ensconced in plush teak chairs on the aft deck, 8 people being served champagne and canapes by uniformed cabin boys. "Another string bean, Jean," ordered a boy with a trumpet as he settled back against the cushion. The captain pushed the throttle forward under the orders of the offensively aromatic Stuart David, who had barked into the intercom, "Listen, this is pish, I'm leaving." He was surrounded by a cloud of buzzing insects whose genus, it was decided, was mayfly. The fey Stuart Murdoch took a bite of his pastie de la bourgeoisie as he surveyed the scene on the shore. He turned to the girl in pedal pushers next to him and commented, "Well, too bad... looks like we'll have to cancel the US tour." She nodded, muttering, "That's a shame, it could have been a brilliant career." Stevie shed a tear or two because had been going to use his earnings from the tour to fulfill the lifetime wish of a close friend. "There goes Judy and the dream of horses," he sobbed. The rest of the group, thankful they had not been arrested, decided it had all been just a spaceboy dream anyway. Moral of the story: Squirrels bearing lists of their favorite bands can bring down all. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From belleandsebastian at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 09:47:56 1998 From: belleandsebastian at xxx.com (Karen David) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 98 08:47:56 UT Subject: Sinister: An apology to National Park Message-ID: See the other day when I was apologising for beeing late. Well I have to apologise for my apology, because it sounded like I was having a go at National Park for making us late, and nothing could be further from the truth. Even if there were a few adjustments to be made after they played it was absolutely nothing to do with them that we were late. I'm sorry to John and Scott and De Mouche and The Rebel if I gave that impression. It's a beautiful sunny day in Glasgow and we're going to record a song today, so I better go and get the kettle on for the workers. Cheers Stuart m --UPIMSRGSMTP11MS4+y7l5RcXySm7IwCV8bahMpC-- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From coool_air at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 11:32:47 1998 From: coool_air at xxx.com (Claire Timmins) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:32:47 PDT Subject: Sinister: Sweet FA B& S content Message-ID: <19980921103248.19945.qmail@hotmail.com> Actually, Sweet F.A derives from the girl of the name Fanny Adams ( this is a true story folks). She was horribly murdered, cut upp into small pieces and thrown into a lake. Sailors around these times used to receive tins of mutton as their food rations. These tins didn't contain very much meat in them, and it was in tiny little bits. So as lads like to do, they made jokes about it, referring to the sweet meat in their tins as being like Fanny Adams and thus Sweet Fanny Adams began to refer to pretty much nothing, which led to sweet fuck all. phew, so that is why I study linguistics. So I can enlighten the world with the origin of common phrases. anybody want to know where c*** comes from? OH, to tape tree organisers, My mail address has changed so it is no longer timminsc at tcd. ie, but coool_air at hotmail.com Ta folks, Claire >Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 17:16:17 -0700 (PDT) >From: N Leggatt >To: sinister at majordomo.net >Subject: Re: Sinister: Sweet FA >Reply-To: N Leggatt > > >why only brits? sweet fuck all. > >N >__ > >"So many things we never will undo >I know you're sorry, I'm sorry too >Some people will offer you their hand and some won't >Last night I knew you, tonight I don't" > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From John.Stuart at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 11:56:59 1998 From: John.Stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart/mail+schedule) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:56:59 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Wandering Days Message-ID: <93CA1ADD24AED111B6CF00A0C9067630250C9B@EDINBURGH> I was working in Glasgow last week, and I was board on the train, so I wrote a little story. I haven't written anything for years, and I'm not very good at it, yet I've plucked up enough courage to send it to the list. I hope you like it, please send any comments. For any of our American listees - Please don't be offended. Oh, and it's written in dialect (ala Irvine Welsh), I can spell really! And I don't speak like this either! Cheers, John S. Wandering Days It's five o'clock and I'm ready to leave. I hastily say a few goodnights and I'm off oot the office door. I'm walking a bit too fast. I stumble doon the stairs and open the front door, walking oot intae Princes Street. Reaching intae ma pocket I press play oan ma Walkman. The sounds of Belle & Sebastian's 'My Wandering Days Are Over' fills ma ears as a continue walking towards the West End. The music immediately makes me grin. I feel the pressures from the day lift from ma head and notice a slight spring appear in ma step. The street's mobbed though, bloody tourists. Bloody festival. I weave in and out between them until I get stuck behind a daft family of yanks. I don't fuckin' believe it, their aw huddin hands wi each other, takin up maist of the pavement. Some people don't have two brain cells tae rub together, it's bloody scary. Aw fat as fuck tae. I push through between the bloke and the wife, and I can hear their comments over the music. But am not interested. I turn the volume up on the Walkman and keep on walking. That wee smile quickly returns to ma face. I run across the road just in time before the lights turn tae green and the traffic moves on to the next queue, at the next set of lights. As I begin to walk up Lothian Road, I reach intae ma pocket to pull a fag from the packet. Then I remember that joint we started at lunchtime. We hudnae finished it before getting back tae work, and I still had nearly half. I pull whats left of the joint ootae the fag packet instead, and get a funny look from an auld dear at the bus stop as I light it wi ma zippo. It's far to nice a night to take the bus hame. It's just efter five and the sun is slowly sliding down behind the castle and it turns the pavement's and buildings gold. I keep on walking. At one point I feel I could just keep on walking forever. No need to sleep or eat, soaking up the sunshine and the music would give me all the energy I needed. But by the time I'm up tae the Kings, am glad am nearly hame. The sun has fallen below the rooftops and it's a bit colder in the shade. The music finishes and the walkman stops with a click. The magic's gone, I turn into Gilmour Place and home. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Wed Sep 16 14:09:59 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:09:59 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Flower Power References: <01BDE177.0C88ED60@pc07628> Message-ID: <35FFB8A7.98733671@jeepster.co.uk> Hello all, Adrian Evans wrote: > Just bought NME. > News In Brief : Belle & Sebastian, Primal Scream, The Chemical > Brothers, Arab Strap and The Verve are among artists featured on the > soundtrack of The Acid House...blah blah blah The > soundtrack....features four previously unreleased songs > from.......Belle and Sebastian (Floral Graffitti).....Que ???? Slow Graffiti ... god i love journalists! (should be a single/EP/whatever next year ...) cheers, katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Mon Sep 21 12:40:28 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:40:28 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: music In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 20 Sep 1998, N Leggatt wrote: > > >But I think it's slightly inferior to Sinister (I feel guilty > already for applying that adjective).< > > i've seen quite a few of these opinions so far. i agree, if _only_ for > "space boy dream" which to me isn't worth listening to more than maybe > twice. also i can't say i care for "seymour stein." does anyone think > that arab strap is _better_ than sinister? and why? > > N I do, I think, if only because TBWTAS has lodged in my head like an infinitely beautiful axe and REFUSES to leave. But I listened to the EPs the other day and 'You Made Me Forget My Dreams' is still so wonderful it hurts. So this is still my favourite B&S song despite the miracles of A Summer Wasting and IIWNTC and Chickfactor. I think it's v. funny that everyone LOVES to list their favourite bands. Why is that, do you think? Spiders keep falling out my hair in a disturbing manner this morning. I think I'd better go. Archel x > __ > > "So many things we never will undo > I know you're sorry, I'm sorry too > Some people will offer you their hand and some won't > Last night I knew you, tonight I don't" > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kcooke at xxx.uk Mon Sep 21 12:14:00 1998 From: kcooke at xxx.uk (Kevan Cooke) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:14:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The weekend's television highlights Message-ID: Firstly there was evidence that "Watchdog" have been eavesdropping on Sinister since I complained to them about CDZone (and they never invited me on the telly either). Not only did they have an article about the reduced number of tracks now allowed on a single (which was the subject of protracted discussions here a while ago), but the same presenter then embarked on a separate article on the subject of golfing attire. Coincidence? I think not. Robbie then shimmied his way onto Top of the Pops in blank underpants and a gold see-through dress. This did not make me sigh, but did make me think about going to see him at Wembley next February where he will be supported by our old favourites The Divine Comedy, are you up for that one Rod? Did anyone else catch any of the Bee-Gees special on Saturday? Hairy and overrated Antipodean chancers, or glorious Gods of funky seventies pop? I remain undecided. Who said that it's not really Isaac Hayes on South Park? Isn't that a bit like telling children that there is no Santa? Of course it's Isaac Hayes. I seem to remember going to Hastings once and finding a decent pub there, so it can't be that bad. Don't think I've ever been to Bognor though, so I couldn't comment. Broadstairs on the Kent coast is my favourite seaside town, because it has been constructed specifically for pub crawls where you end up unconscious on the beach. A beach is far better than a flower bed. As long as the tide doesn't come in of course. Kevan The Fat Slug +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Mon Sep 21 12:40:02 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:40:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: jeepster-news: Belle & Sebastian US TOUR DATES Message-ID: <36063B12.5A05F2B9@jeepster.co.uk> Hello again everyone, just a quick one for you all, seeing as the mailing list has grown so much recently, thought you'd all appreciate a recap on the US tour dates ... Boston - Wednesday 21st October @ Morse Auditorium @ Photo Resource Centre - capacity 660, 602 Commonwealth Avenue, Boston MA. All ages gig Tickets cost US$ 15 and can be purchased from: Middle East - telephone 617 864 3278 ex 221 Philadelphia - Friday 23rd October @ Trocadero - capacity 1200, 1003 Arch Street Philadelphia, PA 19107. Tickets cost US$ 12.50 (advance) or US$ 14 (on the door - if they have some left!) and can be purchased from: Trocadero - telephone 215 922 6888 Toronto - Saturday 24th October @ Opera House - capacity 800, 735 Queen Street East, Toronto, ONT, M4M 1H1. Tickets cost US$ 14.00 (i think) and can be purchased from: Ticketmaster on 41 870 8000 Rotate This Records on 416 504 8447 Sonic Temple Records on 416 222 2004 Chicago - Monday 26th October @ Cabaret Metro - capacity 1100, 3730 North Clark Street, Chicago, IL 60613. 18+ Years of age only Support Band - Momus Tickets cost US$ 14 and can be purchased from: Metro on 773 549 4140 or on the web - http://www.metrochicago.com/ Athens - Wednesday 28th October @ 40 Watt Club - capacity 800, 285 West Washington Street, Athens, GA 30601. Ticket details to be confirmed Washington - Friday 30th October @ Black Cat - capacity 600, 1831 14th Street Northwest, Washington, DC 20009, Tickets cost US$ 14 and can be purchased from: Ticketmaster on 202 432 7382 Or at The Club @ Black Cat in person after 8pm New York - Sunday 1st November (SOLD OUT) + Monday 2nd November @ Supper Club - capacity 1000, 240 West 47th Street, New York City, NY 10036. Tickets cost US$ 16.50 and can be purchased from: Ticketmaster on 212 307 7171 or on the web http://www.ticketmaster.com/ and in person only (no phone bookings) from: Manhattan Centre Ballroom, 311 West 34th Street, New York City, NY Other Music, 15 East 4th Street, New York City, NY For any more tour/release/biog info etc., please do not hesitate to visit the Jeepster web-site at http://www.jeepster.co.uk Cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a message from the Jeepster Records news mailing list. Visit our site at http://www.jeepster.co.uk for more info. To unsubscribe yourself from this list send a message to majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'unsubscribe news' in the body of the message Any problems? mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tim.groves at xxx.uk Mon Sep 21 12:50:00 1998 From: tim.groves at xxx.uk (Tim Groves) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:50:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk on CD Message-ID: Why wouldn't any of us need to buy a copy ? all I have is a very bad copy of a copy - I would kill for a decently mastered CD or preferably LP tim +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rclander at xxx.net Mon Sep 21 13:28:55 1998 From: rclander at xxx.net (Richard Lander) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 20:28:55 +0800 Subject: Sinister: The Boy With The Arab Strap lands at Chek Lap Kok Message-ID: <01bde55b$6659fcc0$36fd51ca@rclander.netfront.net> HOORAY! My order has arrived. Finally TBWTAS has arrived in Hong Kong. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tton at xxx.edu Mon Sep 21 13:27:26 1998 From: tton at xxx.edu (THAIAN N TON) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:27:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: domestic vinyl In-Reply-To: <4cc4ee03.3601358a@aol.com> Message-ID: Hello beautiful sinisteries, i saw TBWTAS vinyl here (yes in balto) for 8.99 dollars. so it's about. (they had a delay in shipment due to labor day & UPS) ... i got my B&S tickets on fri night for the DC show @ black cat ... and then i popped off to see yo la tengo and had nasty people standing in front of me with their fat asses in my face so i had to stand up and be counted to hear what was going on. ah lordy. i only hope those people never get to even know what B&S is. that would be celestial justice. love, chi chi x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JohnJ at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 13:47:51 1998 From: JohnJ at xxx.com (John Johnston) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 13:47:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Sinister Soul Weekender Message-ID: I love the idea of a load of us taking over a campground or Butlins for a super-soaraway Soul Weekender for this meet-up thing. But we would need an awful lot of people. Still if it's in a Pub in Preston or a Bordello in Bathgate can we please call it the Sinister Soul Weekender - it'd a be a great name. I think it'll be a great event with all manner of fun and crazy shenanigans. Some will blame the sunshine, others the moonlight. Yet more will try and pin the responsibility on the good times. But not me. I sir, shall blame it on the boogie. Had to work all day Saturday - at least I had TWATTYBUS to comfort me. I love that record - I'd say it was my fave and anone who disagrees can..well they can enjoy their own opinion. Hastings fact - in the good old days (remember them -great days they were) the phone number of the Midland Bank in Hastings used to be "Hastings 1066". Here's another for the Brits (sorry).. My Grandparents first names were Pearl and Dean. That's not what we called them though. We just knew them as Grandma and grandpa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-papapa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-paaaa-PA! NY picnic sounds great - kudos and mad love to you all xx Johnny J +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 14:17:15 1998 From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 14:17:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Sinister Soul Weekender Message-ID: <021c01bde562$26a9cd60$4429c22b@bond.broadcast> I like the idea of camping - very Famous Five. I can just imaging popping my head out of the tent in the morning to see lots of cardigan wearing people about to head off to the local farmhouse for beakfast - massive portions expected - but running into some madcap adventure along the way, most likey involving misty moors, an abandoned railway tunnel and an old legend. Those in America can simultaneously have a Hardy Boys style adventure, although that might be a bit more Arab Strap than Belle & Sebastian. > >I love the idea of a load of us taking over a campground or Butlins for >a super-soaraway Soul Weekender for this meet-up thing. But we would >need an awful lot of people. Still if it's in a Pub in Preston or a >Bordello in Bathgate can we please call it the Sinister Soul Weekender - >it'd a be a great name. I think it'll be a great event with all manner >of fun and crazy shenanigans. Some will blame the sunshine, others the >moonlight. Yet more will try and pin the responsibility on the good >times. But not me. I sir, shall blame it on the boogie. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk Mon Sep 21 14:28:10 1998 From: Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk (Sarah Wheeler) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 14:28:10 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Sinister Soul Weekender Message-ID: <199809211328.OAA01165@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk> Michael wrote: > >I like the idea of camping - very Famous Five. I can just imaging popping >my head out of the tent in the morning to see lots of cardigan wearing >people about to head off to the local farmhouse for beakfast - massive >portions expected Ooh yes, and we'll be served by the plump farmer's wife, who'll have a bun in her hair and twinkling eyes, and she'll call us "little scamps", and probably send us on our way with homemade lemonade and lashings of ginger bread. Can we have a midnight feast too, and eat pineapple straight out of the tin?? Sarah x ======================= Sarah Wheeler Room 106 West Medical Building University of Glasgow GLASGOW G12 8QQ 0141-339 8855 ext.2860 ======================= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ciflux at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 14:30:12 1998 From: Ciflux at xxx.com (Ciflux at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 09:30:12 EDT Subject: Sinister: my stupid back and the nyc picnic Message-ID: <98acb2d2.360654e4@aol.com> So a Sinister picnic finally comes together in NYC. My sweetie and I wait weeks for its blessed event, not to mention the Shelflife show the night before. Half an hour before I'm supposed to go to Brooklyn, I somehow manage to throw my back out. Thus, instead of seeing the pop show and meeting Sinister listmembers in the East River Park, I spent the entire weekend propped up in bed with a heating pad, sullenly looking out the window at what appeared to be a spectacular East Coast early-autumn weekend. Of course my back healed in time for me to be back at work on Monday. So, um, how'd it go? Did lots of people show up? Was it a properly gentle yet exciting experience? Details, please! l'shana tova, mike ciflux at aol.com http://members.aol.com/ciflux +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From richard.connell at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 14:41:29 1998 From: richard.connell at xxx.com (Richard Connell) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 14:41:29 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2729411421091998/A00369/ADVAX1/11C9ABA91C00*@MHS> I think that it is is Isaac Hayes doing the voice in South Park. He doesn't play himself, rather a parody of himself called Chef. And very good it is too. Whenever he talks to a woman he gets carried away and starts singing to them about giving them 'sweet loving all night long'. He's put on a bit of weight since his Shaft days anyway. On bad mother(Shut your mouth), RIch +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peter at xxx.se Mon Sep 21 15:16:18 1998 From: peter at xxx.se (Peter Larsson) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:16:18 +0200 Subject: Sinister: 5 days to Stockholm Message-ID: Hi! 5 days left to the Stockholm gig. Are there any plans for a meeting before. I heard something about kricket in Vitabergsparken. Is that a good idear? I don't know how to play it and I guess no one else does. Why not simply play brännboll instead? At least we know how tp play that game. I think I could gather around 20 people for that. Rebecka and Vanessa write and tell us about the plans. /Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starstruckone at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 15:22:56 1998 From: starstruckone at xxx.com (Zach Braun) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 07:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: TWATTYBUS review Message-ID: <19980921142256.25375.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> hello all, like a ton of others, i'm relatively new to the list and the band, but i quickly became obsessed after hearing the new album. here's a review from my webzine "going underground" (http://come.to/going-underground). Belle & Sebastian - The Boy With The Arab Strap (Matador) "He had a stroke at the age of 24, it could have been a brilliant career," sings leader Stuart Murdoch at the beginning of this, the third album from Scotland's Belle & Sebastian. Drawing richly from the English folk tradition of Nick Drake and Donovan and late '80s twee pop, the eight-piece B&S modernizes it with surprisingly sharp lyrics and songwriting. The second track, "Sleep The Clock Around," blends glorious swoops of synthetic horns, Murdoch's velvet voice, and a bopping beat to his sad story of "the memory girl." It's hard to describe how beautiful this song is in mere words, but after a hundred listens, that's the best I can come up with. Murdoch composed all of the songs on the last two B&S records, but here cellist Isobel Campbell offers the sweet and sinister "Is It Wicked Not To Care." "Seymour Stein" describes the story of the famed record exec wining and dining B&S guitarist Steve Jackson over a dusky, slow-bubbling background. An album of mellow pop would grow tiresome to some listeners, so it's good to know the most upbeat tunes are slotted near the end of the LP. "Dirty Dream #2" sounds like a long-lost outtake from Nick Drake's Bryter Layter, with insistent drumming and a sharp horn and string arrangement. It's probably the most exciting backing that can be given to a song that's blatantly about a typical teenage boy hang-up: wet dreams ("You are dreaming, you are sleepy, you are stuck to the sheets"). The title track is another English folk stomper; this time it details the adventures of the singer of the band Arab Strap with the equine sexual device of the same name. The Boy... then falls into the piano-ballad beauty of "Chickfactor" (named after a US zine), a simple song about the "Simple Things" to make "a young boy sigh," and the seven minute "The Rollercoaster Ride." It seems like I've been saying this a lot lately, but there's been a lot of awesome albums that have a unifying mood and actually keep the same level of enjoyment throughout the songs. The Boy With The Arab Strap is no exception. It's amazing to notice how Belle & Sebastian have captivated a small legion of die-hard fans on the strength of last year's If You're Feeling Sinister (their debut, Tigermilk is impossible to find). The band refuses to be photographed (the booklet is filled with blurry pics of band members in a vaguely medieval setting), and have an aura of overall mystery surrounding them. However, just a small glance at the bustling Sinister mailing list shows just how many slavering B&S devotees there are. The Boy With The Arab Strap is a perfect pop album, and demonstrates that Belle & Sebastian are worthy of all the accolades and devoted fans. You can count me as one of them now. ------------------------------------------------------- on a completely unrelated note, is there a b&s fan here in the states willing to tape me a copy of tigermilk? if so, e-mail me off the list. bye, Zach B. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MctaggartR at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 15:26:38 1998 From: MctaggartR at xxx.com (Mctaggart, Robert) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:26:38 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Weekend-ah Message-ID: Hello Mariah Carey fans, John Johnstone wrote: >I love the idea of a load of us taking over a campground or Butlins >for a super-soaraway Soul Weekender for this meet-up thing. But we >would need an awful lot of people. Still if it's in a Pub in Preston >or a Bordello in Bathgate can we please call it the Sinister Soul >Weekender - it'd a be a great name. Well, we were thinking of "Booty Bounce", or "Mental as anything", but yes, I like this suggestion very much. Whilst we're on the subject, Manchester seems to moving ahead in the popularity stakes. Now we need to settle a date. Personally, I'm all for sometime around Christmas/New Year, which would have some kind of symmetry, it being the anniversary of the Town Hall shows and all. Suggestions to Keef or myself as usual. Katrina wrote: >just a quick one for you all, seeing as the mailing list has grown so >much recently, thought you'd all appreciate a recap on the US >tour dates > >Toronto - >Saturday 24th October @ Opera House - capacity 800, 735 Queen Street >East, Toronto, ONT, M4M 1H1. Tickets cost US$ 14.00 (i think) Dear me, Katrina, when did this happen? I know I should watch the news more often and keep more abreast of current affairs, but I was on the phone to Toronto last night and my little maple syrup cake made no mention of a US invasion. Has Bill Clinton made the ultimate bid to save his flagging popularity? Bill, there really was no need, now that all Americans can sleep soundly in their beds, because Mark Cassarato likes them after all. Finally, here's a list of things I never want to see on Sinister again. 1. Lists That is all, Love tag xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From S.Ludlam at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 16:46:58 1998 From: S.Ludlam at xxx.com (Simon Ludlam) Date: 21 Sep 98 15:46:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The Plugz Message-ID: Anyone out there in listee-land heard of a band called 'The Plugz' All I know is they are/were from West Coast USA (LA?) circa Mid-Eighties and they did a Spanish cover of Secret Agent Man (Hombre Secreto) They were also in the Repo Man soundtrack (best film of our Century) Bye Bye for now S ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are released in confidence and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From noelani30 at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 16:08:55 1998 From: noelani30 at xxx.com (Jessica Noelani Wright) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:08:55 PDT Subject: Sinister: nyc picnicers Message-ID: <19980921150856.9163.qmail@hotmail.com> hi all, i know all you nyc people were talking about doing the picnic thing again i was wondering if the second weekend in october might be considered of course i'm asking, cause i will be up there then maybe it's too soon to think about it but i thought i'd give it a shot and put in my two cents thanks -jess ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cchaffin at xxx.org Mon Sep 21 16:32:07 1998 From: cchaffin at xxx.org (Christa Chaffinch) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:32:07 -0400 Subject: Sinister: hello its me Message-ID: Well, this is my first message to all of you, let me introduce myself... My name is Christa and I live in Washington DC. I'm 22 and work at the American College of Cardiology (oh, it really IS that exciting). I'm going to that show of that band here at the Black Cat on Oct 30, so I expect to see all of you brilliant East Coast Americans there. I am interested in going by train to the NY show (that isn't sold out?) Could anyone tell me info about the venue, etc? I feel the intense need to cram in every show that is possible for me to see. I look foreward to hearing from you guys. I'm sure this will brighten my day considerably here, at the workstead! Bye-bye +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 16:32:09 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:32:09 +0100 Subject: Sinister: HEY! London (indoor) picnic Saturday 26th September! Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22230B14@server1.HITEntertainment.com> The header says it all, really... This Saturday coming, there will be what is to all intents and purposes a picnic at the lovely and beautiful Rory and Linda's house in charming North London. It's inside because we didn't think we could rely on the weather, but if it turns out lovely, I'm sure that can be accommodated. I implore everyone who's around to come along, as it will be invariably class (anything that Rory's involved in tends to be). New listees are especially welcome, particularly those who posted about not managing to meet up with like-minded souls at the now legendary Shepherds Bush event. Rumour has it that Stevie Troosers' melting submarine will be putting in an appearance, which should be attraction enough for anyone... It'll kick off about 2 p.m., so get there early for maximum thrills. For those who have been before, you know the drill - for those that haven't, bring some food, maybe something that everyone can tuck into, and (of course) all the alcohol you can carry. Any games, tapes, guitars, balalaikas, or those wobble boards what Rolf Harris uses are encouraged, nay obligatory. The address is as follows - it's ever so easy to get to: Top flat, 40 Salisbury Road, London N4. To get there, take the tube to Manor House (Piccadilly Line), and then the 29, 171 or 171A bus for 5 stops (about half a mile) towards Wood Green. Get off outside the post office, cross the road, and Salisbury Road is next to the "Old Suffolk Punch" Pub. It's dead easy to find. For further information, now or on the day, call 07771 656961, and be ready to be persuaded. Seriously, it's a brilliant opportunity to meet everyone you've ever wanted to (well, pretty much!)...there were 30 people at the New York Picnic - you're not going to let them beat us, are you? Look forward to seeing you there! Kisses, Mark +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vanessa.figueras at xxx.se Mon Sep 21 17:05:49 1998 From: vanessa.figueras at xxx.se (Vanessa Figueras) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:05:49 +0200 Subject: Sinister: 5 days to Stockholm References: Message-ID: <3606795C.4362E98D@swipnet.se> there are plans, if you know about the cricket ones you probably know about the time and all too. And for the record, I'd much rather play brännboll, no offense Rebecka! The way the weathr is now though, I dont wanna do either, so we'll just wait and see. Cheers Vanessa Peter Larsson wrote: > Hi! > > 5 days left to the Stockholm gig. Are there any plans for a meeting before. > I heard something about kricket in Vitabergsparken. Is that a good idear? I > don't know how to play it and I guess no one else does. Why not simply play > brännboll instead? At least we know how tp play that game. I think I could > gather around 20 people for that. Rebecka and Vanessa write and tell us > about the plans. > > /Peter > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Mon Sep 21 17:09:50 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 17:09:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: MEET UPS - IMPORTANT References: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22230B14@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Message-ID: <36067A4E.C23937CF@jeepster.co.uk> Mark Casarotto wrote: > This Saturday coming, there will be what is to all intents and purposes > a picnic at the lovely and beautiful Rory and Linda's house in charming > North London. It's inside because we didn't think we could rely on the > weather, but if it turns out lovely, I'm sure that can be accommodated. -- i've just created a new page to help aid all the meet-ups since i was so poo at putting the info on the web site before. it's really simple, it's just a moderated message board, anyone organising a meet-up can simply post the info there (mark i've done yours for you), and within a day or so it'll appear. if you just want info then head there and just print the page you need :) if there isn't enough info, then just reply to the message that announced it and hopefully the organiser of the meet/picnic/whatever will post a message to set you on the road again :) all sound cool? if you don't know what i mean then you can just head there and have a look, you can find it by passing through the news page on the belle and sebastia site, or by going directly to http://www.jeepster.co.uk/cgi-bin/mboard/belle/list.cgi cheers david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Mon Sep 21 18:22:01 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:22:01 Subject: Sinister: Who wants a tape in UK ? Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19980921182201.2537a734@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Because of an neuronal crash in my brain, I have inopportunately deleted the messages of the listees from UK who applied for a tape of the next radio session (Belle & Sebastian's Black Session on Oct. 1st). So, if you are interested by a tape (it's free) and if you are ready to make copies for your compatriots, please contact me. This concerns *only* people living in UK ! I have already made the "selection" for the US and for Ireland. Yes, I have decided to send a tape in Ireland apart from UK, though my first idea was that Ireland, England, Wales and Scotland were definitely linked together by their repeated defeats against the french rugby team. I will soon indicate the email of the "winners" all around the earth : you will just have to contact them if you want a tape. Cheers! Philippe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 95djb2 at xxx.uk Mon Sep 21 18:03:15 1998 From: 95djb2 at xxx.uk (Dom) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:03:15 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Newbie on Shepherd's Bush Message-ID: Hi people! Yet another posting from a newbie - you're probably all getting sick of this. Just a few comments on the Shepherd's Bush gig (a bit late I know but it's taken me this long to read all the mails since then and actually have time to respond). Does anyone know what the last song they played was? It was instantly familiar in the way that old Eurovision songs that you can't get out of your head are, so much so that I'm beginning to suspect it _was_ an old Eurovision song? Whoever said their friends thought Isobel looked "mean and moody" - during one of the points in the gig when I was looking up at her and sighing like a young boy, I too thought she looked terribly serious. (Further observations on this, and on Isobel in general, were cut short by a strange Marge Simpson-esque noise coming from my girlfriend...) On the bootlegged Tigermilk theme, I'd have done the same thing if I'd seen a CD in my local record shop - which reminds me, does anyone living near Bristol, Cambridge or London have a good quality copy (dare I say the original?) of Tigermilk? I only ask because mine is so bad that I can't make out what the girl says in "I Should Be Screaming" - you know, the bit all about "not being daunted by the longest words in the dictionary" or something. Does anyone know? I've been painting the outside of the house all day listening to TWATTYBUS on repeat at nearly full volume in my room so I can hear it outside. This is one of the best ways of finding out which tracks are quietest - I could hardly hear A Space Boy Dream. Or the end of most of the tracks. I think the idea about putting MP3's on the web site is one of the best I've heard so far for Tigermilk - surely there's no way this would actually dent sales amongst B&S fans if it were ever rereleased? Back on Shepherd's Bush again - if you were the guy who fainted before B&S came on, it was me who gave you your jacket back at the end, BTW. Keep mailing (not too many long ones - all the newbies are clogging up the list) Oh the hypocrisy love Lazy House-Painter Dom +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From k-westerlund at xxx.se Mon Sep 21 19:01:34 1998 From: k-westerlund at xxx.se (Kristina Westerlund) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 19:01:34 +-200 Subject: Sinister: sinister Message-ID: <01BDE592.473232E0@dialup174-4-39.swipnet.se> Hello, This is my first message so I start by introducing myself. My name is Kristina; I'm 20 and live in Stockholm. And some information... The Belle and Sebastian radio session on French radio Oct 5th will be broadcasted on Swedish radio Oct 19th. (p3 live 21.03-22.00) For more information (in Swedish): http://www.sr.se/p3/program/live/konsert/vecka43.htm Looking forward to the gig on Saturday... Stina +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tim.groves at xxx.uk Mon Sep 21 17:37:00 1998 From: tim.groves at xxx.uk (Tim Groves) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 17:37:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Things that make a young boy sigh Message-ID: 1) Winona Ryder talking 2) Listening to Charlie Byrd cd's 3) West Ham losing 4) My vespa breaking down 4) Tom Verlaine singing 5) Hosiery adverts tim +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From heinitz at xxx.net Sun Sep 20 19:14:57 1998 From: heinitz at xxx.net (Heinitz) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 98 18:14:57 GMT Subject: Sinister: music Message-ID: <980920181457.n0001407.heinitz@mail.clara.net> ah, this is my favourite question... suede, drugstore, pulp, orlando, the manic street preachers, kenickie... also the mamas and the papas, strangelove, mogwai, geneva, make up, embrace, the verve, spiritualized, the spice girls, and fosca, except that i haven't heard anything of their present incarnation yet. abi x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MileEndGrl at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 18:35:23 1998 From: MileEndGrl at xxx.com (MileEndGrl at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 13:35:23 EDT Subject: Sinister: Newbie from New York Message-ID: <6b20eb1.36068e5b@aol.com> Hello List! I like to make myself known on lists as early as possible. Now I just recently discovered this band. All I heard were such amazing reviews. What took me so long to get these CDs was lack of money since the cheapest I could find it around me was $21.99 for Sinister and $400 for Tigermilk (which is to be expected). Oh how I hate Long Island's music taste. Anyhoo, I am not sure which CD I like better, both are amazing in there own special way. So is anyone seeing them in New York on November 1st? I kind of have a dilemma with that show. I bought my ticket, but the show sold out before my friend could get her ticket, so I am going solo right now. If anyone would like to meet up before hand that would be lovely! Perhaps there is a something being planned already. Those picnics sound like a smash! If another one goes on the NYC area, please let me know! I love get togethers and I can make a mean key lime pie. Cass +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From phil.houghton at xxx.uk Mon Sep 21 18:35:53 1998 From: phil.houghton at xxx.uk (The Eclectic Electric) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:35:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk to CD-R Message-ID: Does anyone have the capability to record vinyl onto CD-R? If so I may be willing to *LEND* someone my copy of Tigermilk. -- The Eclectic Electric "U Sexy Motherpopper!!!" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From james at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 18:59:11 1998 From: james at xxx.com (J Errington) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:59:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: 6 things. Message-ID: Onto five things in a sec but first: (A). I'm VERY dissapointed at how conservative all these musical taste lists seem to be. No, really. The Smiths, Tindersticks, Radiohead and the Jesus & Mary Chain seem to be in all of the things. (B). Brier: 'Sweet F.A.' means 'Sweet Fuck All' i.e it means 'Nothing' Right: Now for 5 things to make a young (19) boy sigh: 1. Lying in bed and listening to B&S 2. Having all your friends at Uni / Night shift and no-one to talk to all day. Lots of people like solitude but I get a grawing hollow sick feeling. 3. Sitting in a shit nightclub and watching all your friends pair up except you. 4. Wondering what I'm doing starting a shit course in a horrible university full of dumb fucking EE A-level grade Business Studies studients in a mind- numbingly expensive city. 5. E-mailing some questions for your fanzine to a favorite musician only to have them replied in a brief, unpleasant and obscene way. Sorry, but there they are. I've no time for good humor when i'm in a mood like this. I don't know why I bother writing to this list. I may as well send my messages to Emile Zola or Alexander the Great for all the response I get. That could be the 6th thing. It's not very theraputic and nobody reads this. If they do they take a hell of a lot more than they give. WeeJay "Modern capitalism, organising the reduction of all social life to a spectacle, cannot offer any other spectacle than that of our own alienation" james at twopounds.u-net.com (my site kills browsers) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Cabaret/5523/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 19:13:23 1998 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 14:13:23 -0400 Subject: Sinister: B&S Oct. 24 Toronto Meet Message-ID: >I'm organizing a B&S Meet on Oct.24 in Toronto. (show date) > >Send me an email privately for further details. > > >cheers, >Allan Okay, I'm counting me and at least three other people who want to organize b+s meets before the Toronto show...how's about somebody post the location and details of their hoedown, then all us Toronto show goers can look at it and decide that it really would be better to only have one party to go to so that we're not all party hopping, and see who's got the best plans. Not that it's a competition or anything, but if someone's rented a ballroom I'd hate to try and throw a party to compete with that. Come on, fish, start biting. truly, jessicaxo b+s enabled! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kimpostor at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 19:24:01 1998 From: kimpostor at xxx.com (Kimberly Forrette) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:24:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19980921182401.6335.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> A hearty and heartfelt good morning to you all from the heart of California's cabbage-growing country.... Sorry to propogate the "knee-jerk" message trend that seems to have overrun the list lately, but i do have a legitimate question: Does anyone know where to find guitar chords to TWISTYBASS* (especially "DD#2", "Career", and "Strap"? i've looked at just about all the B*S sites i can find and still i'm denied the pure pleasure of sitting in my room for hours on end fumbling my way through (no not THAT) my favorite new B*S songs on my trusty six-string that has a Hot Wheels and a four-leaf clover sticker on it... i can't wait to meet a whole lot of you in Philly and NY...look for the flounderer with a "judy" name patch on her jumper...ooh, i said jumper. Englishness is contagious, don't get too close. Thanks lovies kim *name that reference -- it's a Neil Finn song. He rules too. i don't care what you say. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nickdastoor at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 19:23:58 1998 From: nickdastoor at xxx.com (Nick Dastoor) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Celtic, dead list grandees and the death of romance Message-ID: <19980921182358.6306.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> Funkyseb wrote: > I know this celtic/rangers a load of ares, but I couldn't help but be > cheeredw hen I first read this: > Ink Polaroid#2 > ''....Anything you want! > Which is what (mark jones) said he would give us if we would do a > record for him. So Chris promptly drew up a list that included a pair > of forty inch flares, a date with Kate Moss, and celtic to win the > league cup. I don't think he's seen any of them yet.'' (by Stuart > David) This bit always confuses me. Can anyone explain why Chris wanted Celtic to win the poxy League Cup rather than the Premiership or the FA Cup? Is this a telling example of Belle and Seabstian's smallness of ambition that the reviewers are always telling us about? Did he not want Celtic to get 'too big'. Or were Celtic just out of the running for everthing but the League Cup by this stage of the 96-7 season. Do tell. I work in a newspaper library and was most alarmed to come across a file marked "Robert McTaggart" in the Dead People section. I was chilled to the bone, I don't mind tell you. Turns out Tag was a Scottish Labour MP who died in the 1980s. How awful for him. All this young boy sighing talk has made me realise that however much like to think of myself as a swooning romantic oaf, I don't really sigh. Except when I'm tired. Nick xx _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rakow at xxx.edu Mon Sep 21 20:34:04 1998 From: rakow at xxx.edu (jennifer rakowski) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 14:34:04 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk to CD-R References: Message-ID: <3606AA2C.374ABACA@ou.edu> Hi- > Does anyone have the capability to record vinyl onto CD-R? If so I may > be willing to *LEND* someone my copy of Tigermilk. > -- > The Eclectic Electric > > "U Sexy Motherpopper!!!" Well my boyfriend does can make a CD-R of it, he copies lots of stuff, cuts down on costs you know, but as soon as I thought of that, I looked at your email. You're across the pond so that would not be too efficient for you to send it. Ok, this was useless, but still, it's an attempt to get to know some ppl on this list since I'm new. Take care Jennifer > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 20:46:48 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:46:48 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Guitar chords from The Boy... Message-ID: <3606AD2D.85276CD9@bigfoot.com> On a slow Saturday afternoon last week, I figured out three of the easier songs on, erm, the "new album" and I wrote them all down for Mr. Mitchell's sheet music department of the Sinister page, but they're still not there. Not to say that Paul's done anything wrong...I mean, anyone with the nickname of "Honey" is sure to be too busy for such trivial matters. So what I'm getting to here, is that I have the chords to these songs, and I'll give them to you here in a very basic form. I have them all in the usual, more detailed form, with the chords above the lyrics, and I'd be happy to forward them to anyone who wants, and I'll be especially happy to forward them to anyone who won't be afraid to tell me that I'm wrong. This is what I've got: "Is It Wicked Not to Care" (chord shapes): (capo on first fret) G/C/G/C/G/D for the verses Am/D for the chorus: "If there was a sequel"... "The Boy With The Arab Strap": It's just G and C pretty much all the way through, and then D for the turns ("You're the boy with the filthy (D)laugh, you're the boy with the arab (G) strap"). The trick part is hammering onto the 2nd string, first fret (C) when you play the G chord, in that "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" thing. "The Rollercoaster Ride" The verses are just D and G. The choruses are A/G/A/G/Bm/G/D/G I'm not entirely sure about the chorus, but it sounds okay to me. Let me know if I have it wrong. ~Reid -- "I told myself I'd head to someplace exotic, Portland maybe or Tacoma, Washington, but deep down I knew that once my bags were packed, I'd return to North Carolina." -David Sedaris +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From janine at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 21:56:36 1998 From: janine at xxx.com (Janine Papp) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:56:36 -0500 Subject: Sinister: The shortest review ever Message-ID: this is the review of The Boy With the Arab Strap that I'm going to run in my zine: Belle and Sebastian are the best band in the world. Buy this album immediately if you haven't already done so. (I think it gets right to the point!) queenbeejanine +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tangent at xxx.net Mon Sep 21 20:42:50 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 20:42:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: i was in the pub last night... References: <3.0.5.16.19980921182201.2537a734@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Message-ID: <3606AC3A.35223F8F@lineone.net> so there i am, heading for the bar to get me beer and this bloke stops me and says, 'hey, nice shirt'. i was wearing my orangey bus one, and this chap said he had meant to order one off the Internet, but hadn't. I said i got mine at Union Chapel and he said 'hey you're so cool'. Well okay he didn't, he just nodded and asked if i had the new record. Well, i ask you... he's not on the list by any chance is he? are you? dahn the cavern it was, saturday night. there was a dreadful band who were doing covers of things like Walking On Sunshine, very baddly. The guitarist was wanking it and some card at the back kept shouting 'fucking YES'. i don't imagine for a minute he was being complimentary, although my chum Rupert would argue that such a comparison should indeed be held in high regard. Where on earth was i? oh yes, chap asked if the new record was any good and i said no it's pish. there was talk of obtaining copies of Tigermilk and i said i'd meet him in the toilets later but he didn't show. there was no discussion of CDR, however. later i talk with loverly kate who is fab and her boyfriend who i used to teach, and who made me say 'shut up and sit doon', even though i never said that in my life, honest. he likes B&S and looks like someone from Marilyn Mansun, so it just goes to show, doesn't it kids? never trust a hippie. In other news: the nice mr Mitchell suggested that everyone have a nice look through the archives. I suggest that people take this wonderful advice, especially if they want to know about set lists and songs in french. Sheesh. i only posted the info about twice. Is Stuart M, the loveable little tyke who apologises for a living and who makes tea for the Workers (Fischer Z, anyone? i could tell you a story about that one... come sit on my lap little one) leaving coded messages in his missives to the list? --UPIMSRGSMTP11MS4+y7l5RcXySm7IwCV8bahMpC-- Anyone want to have a go at cracking the code? i cannae be arsed. Miller said something but i forget what. Something about Isaac Hayes and some impenetrable rubbish in a faux scottish accent that sounded geordie to me. Hey PJ, i was looking at an old fanzine the other night and it mentions 'Slow Dazzle'. Do you remember this one? it came from greenock... I think a camping sinister soul weekender in Machester in the middle of winter sounds like an ace idea. But without the camping and without the soul. Well okay, a bit of soul... can i bring my Teena Marie records? keep the faith, the duke PS it's nice to know you all fancy me. -- 'all of our dreams are dying of overdoses' Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dubet at xxx.edu Mon Sep 21 21:01:42 1998 From: dubet at xxx.edu (The Dude, a.k.a. Timmy D.) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:01:42 -0400 Subject: Sinister: The Boston Show Message-ID: <3606B0A6.A8333271@mail4.bc.edu> Hello, if anyone on this precious list is off to the Boston (er, Cambridge) show of Oct. 21, email me at my address and we'll arrange to hook up previously. It would be fun. I promise. the lovely pink masquerader Tim dubet at bc.edu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cadoret at xxx.fr Sun Sep 20 21:57:58 1998 From: cadoret at xxx.fr (denis cadoret) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 20:57:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: music In-Reply-To: <3604258C.C8300A6B@ufl.edu> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980920205758.0068eb7c@mail.club-internet.fr> favorites of mine : Beach Boys, the smiths, the kinks, lambchop, tindersticks, Divine Comedy, Xtc, velvet underground, tim buckley, Nick drake, the nits, swell, elliot smith, lisa germano, vic chesnutt, and many, many many more. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cadoret at xxx.fr Sun Sep 20 22:08:56 1998 From: cadoret at xxx.fr (denis cadoret) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 21:08:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: music In-Reply-To: <19980920091131.18657.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980920210856.0068eb7c@mail.club-internet.fr> For French people on the list, if nobody has already mentioned this, B&s will be playing live on the radio (France Inter) on October 5th, during 45 minutes, at 9.45 P.M i could listen to this radio when I was in England a few years ago on LW, but anyway is that really worth it with that sound ? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tangent at xxx.net Mon Sep 21 22:06:57 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 22:06:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: i was in the pub last night... References: <3.0.5.16.19980921182201.2537a734@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Message-ID: <3606BFF1.BA83AADC@lineone.net> so there i am, heading for the bar to get me beer and this bloke stops me and says, 'hey, nice shirt'. i was wearing my orangey bus one, and this chap said he had meant to order one off the Internet, but hadn't. I said i got mine at Union Chapel and he said 'hey you're so cool'. Well okay he didn't, he just nodded and asked if i had the new record. Well, i ask you... he's not on the list by any chance is he? are you? dahn the cavern it was, saturday night. there was a dreadful band who were doing covers of things like Walking On Sunshine, very baddly. The guitarist was wanking it and some card at the back kept shouting 'fucking YES'. i don't imagine for a minute he was being complimentary, although my chum Rupert would argue that such a comparison should indeed be held in high regard. Where on earth was i? oh yes, chap asked if the new record was any good and i said no it's pish. there was talk of obtaining copies of Tigermilk and i said i'd meet him in the toilets later but he didn't show. there was no discussion of CDR, however. later i talk with loverly kate who is fab and her boyfriend who i used to teach, and who made me say 'shut up and sit doon', even though i never said that in my life, honest. he likes B&S and looks like someone from Marilyn Mansun, so it just goes to show, doesn't it kids? never trust a hippie. In other news: the nice mr Mitchell suggested that everyone have a nice look through the archives. I suggest that people take this wonderful advice, especially if they want to know about set lists and songs in french. Sheesh. i only posted the info about twice. Is Stuart M, the loveable little tyke who apologises for a living and who makes tea for the Workers (Fischer Z, anyone? i could tell you a story about that one... come sit on my lap little one) leaving coded messages in his missives to the list? --UPIMSRGSMTP11MS4+y7l5RcXySm7IwCV8bahMpC-- Anyone want to have a go at cracking the code? i cannae be arsed. Miller said something but i forget what. Something about Isaac Hayes and some impenetrable rubbish in a faux scottish accent that sounded geordie to me. Hey PJ, i was looking at an old fanzine the other night and it mentions 'Slow Dazzle'. Do you remember this one? it came from greenock... I think a camping sinister soul weekender in Machester in the middle of winter sounds like an ace idea. But without the camping and without the soul. Well okay, a bit of soul... can i bring my Teena Marie records? keep the faith, the duke PS it's nice to know you all fancy me. -- 'all of our dreams are dying of overdoses' Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK taX-Mozilla-Status: 0009rom - Mon Sep 21 20:45:55 1998 X-Mozilla-Status: 0801 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 FCC: /C|/Program Files/Netscape/Users/tangent/mail/Sent Message-ID: <3606ACF3.4A9EBF49 at lineone.net> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 20:45:55 +0100 From: duke of harringay X-Mozilla-Draft-Info: internal/draft; vcard=0; receipt=0; uuencode=0; html=0; linewidth=0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b1 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The Eclectic Electric Subject: Re: Sinister: Tigermilk to CD-R References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit gentle suggestion: DON't post this kind of thing to the list. if they haven't already contacted you, david and katrina will tell you off big style for such actions/thoughts. keep the faith, the duke The Eclectic Electric wrote: > > Does anyone have the capability to record vinyl onto CD-R? If so I may > be willing to *LEND* someone my copy of Tigermilk. > -- > The Eclectic Electric > > "U Sexy Motherpopper!!!" > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- 'all of our dreams are dying of overdoses' Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.coX-Mozilla-Status: 0009, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 22:19:03 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 21:19:03 GMT Subject: Sinister: 6 things Message-ID: <3606c24b.12419038@post.demon.co.uk> J Errinton wrote: >Onto five things in a sec but first: >(A). I'm VERY dissapointed at how conservative all these musical taste lists >seem to be. No, really. The Smiths, Tindersticks, Radiohead and the Jesus & >Mary Chain seem to be in all of the things. >(B). Brier: 'Sweet F.A.' means 'Sweet Fuck All' i.e it means 'Nothing' >Right: Now for 5 things to make a young (19) boy sigh: >1. Lying in bed and listening to B&S >2. Having all your friends at Uni / Night shift and no-one to talk to all day. Lots >of people like solitude but I get a grawing hollow sick feeling. >3. Sitting in a shit nightclub and watching all your friends pair up except you. >4. Wondering what I'm doing starting a shit course in a horrible university full of >dumb fucking EE A-level grade Business Studies studients in a mind- >numbingly expensive city. >5. E-mailing some questions for your fanzine to a favorite musician only to have >them replied in a brief, unpleasant and obscene way. >Sorry, but there they are. I've no time for good humor when i'm in a mood like >this. >I don't know why I bother writing to this list. I may as well send my messages >to Emile Zola or Alexander the Great for all the response I get. That could be >the 6th thing. It's not very theraputic and nobody reads this. If they do they take >a hell of a lot more than they give. Anyone fancy a pint? Emile Zola +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 22:49:55 1998 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 17:49:55 -0400 Subject: Sinister: look, crazy judy is having an affair with the tall man Message-ID: Hey sinisterines, Somehow my .sig file *mysteriously disappeared (alright, we all know it was my mother mucking about on here), so this message is really just a test to see if it works. Oh, and I'd like to ask if it is possible to be driven to a point of insanity by prolonged exposure to loud and stress-indicing noise? You see, we've had a fire (no worries, everyone is okay and so are my records, thank heavens - everything just smells like we've been on a cookout) and they're rebuilding our walls...they start hammering away and doing goodness knows what at 7:30am and here it is, 5:30pm and the builders are showing no sign of letting up and I've got to study for my Law test tomorrow (oh, the glamourousness of highschool) and darnit, I can't get anything done from this banging and drilling and general machinery noise going on. I do hope I don't snap and throw my dear eggplant at the workers, I'm sure they're nice and everything but really, noise is noise and I do wish it could be kept to a minimum, ie. none. Does anyone seem to have a Coronation Street addiction? I can't help myself, it just strikes me as being so much more interesting than my life and so much more action packed than silly American soaps. Well, now that I've wasted a good three minutes of my and everyone else's time, I'll be going. truly, jessicaxo 33 days until b+s in Toronto! Hurrah! **************************************************** Someone had spied on us, I suppose, as we sat beside the canal and ate the sandwiches, drinking not even orangeade or Coca-Cola but hot milk out of a thermos. *************************************************** t i n y s t a r @ w o r l d y . c o m +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alasala at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 23:53:20 1998 From: alasala at xxx.com (Anthony LaSala) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 17:53:20 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Dirty Scene #1 Message-ID: To all you B&S fans coming to NY for the first time for the upcoming shows, here's something to look forward to: I sit across from a large hotel in midtown Manhattan named the Milford Plaza (The "Lullabye of Broadway" to all you fellow New Yorkers) and at the present moment there is a rather pale, hairy man, standing on a chair in front of his window, about 50 stories up, doing the twist completely naked. An arab strap is not visible, although one may be present in his room. I wonder: a) Is he listening to TWATTYBUS? b) Did he just find a copy of Tigermilk for $3.00 in his local indie record store? c) What, exactly, did he eat for lunch? d) What simple questions might make HIM sigh? Maybe we'd be better off not knowing the answer to d... -Anthony +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From leggattn at xxx.edu Mon Sep 21 23:01:07 1998 From: leggattn at xxx.edu (N Leggatt) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: 3 6 9 seconds of questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: what about that little tune at the end of 3 6 9, after the final, 4th, listed song ends. is it a track in its own right? what's it called? why is it there? who decided it should be there? why are they sorry they're on the radio? why is dirt? and so on. what's that all about? or am i making too big a deal out of this? also, somebody said >Well I have to apologise for my apology,< and i feel this is insuffiencient. therefore i would like to apologise on behalf of everyone who failed to apologise and for those whose apologies did not extend to everyone deserving of an apology. and for myself for butting in and being a smart ass. thank you. N __ "So many things we never will undo I know you're sorry, I'm sorry too Some people will offer you their hand and some won't Last night I knew you, tonight I don't" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From leggattn at xxx.edu Mon Sep 21 23:04:55 1998 From: leggattn at xxx.edu (N Leggatt) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: music In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >I think it's v. funny that everyone LOVES to list their favourite bands. Why is that, do you think? < because it's a feeble way in which to claw out some desperate scintilla of individuality in this zombifying mass-culture world. or maybe not. N __ "So many things we never will undo I know you're sorry, I'm sorry too Some people will offer you their hand and some won't Last night I knew you, tonight I don't" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From z2d71t.044 at xxx.it Mon Sep 21 23:13:13 1998 From: z2d71t.044 at xxx.it (Massimiliano Bernardini) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 00:13:13 +0200 Subject: Sinister: music References: <3.0.5.32.19980919221756.00793ce0@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: <3606CF79.9A9B5009@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> ciaran at clara.net ha scritto: > hello > > what are the main musical loves of this list bar B&S? > > C. > vinicio capossela - la crus - pearl jam - breeders - blur - cypress hill fun lovin' criminals - erykah badu - afghan whigs - echobelly - verve subsonica - violent femmes - ................. enjoy music forever! cheers, Passi. > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jj at xxx.com Mon Sep 21 23:46:15 1998 From: jj at xxx.com (jj) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:46:15 -0400 Subject: Sinister: music and toronto Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980921184615.008da620@mail.si.umich.edu> well i'm not going to bother posting a list of my favorite bands but if anyone *really* is interested in what else i listen to besides b&s, please direct your nearest browser to www.mindspring.com/~initialgirl/tunes/tunes.htm -- or tune your realaudio to www.wcbn.org/listen.ram on wednesday mornings from 6-9am EST (that's 11am-2pm GMT i believe) - ah, shameless self-promotion. isn't it wonderful? and i got my ticket for the toronto show last night - hurrah! so please please please add me to any toronto-listee-lists that are discussing pre/post-show meetups as my friend celia and i will be roadtripping up for the weekend and would love to meet some of you! xo jj +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trug88 at xxx.com Tue Sep 22 00:14:15 1998 From: trug88 at xxx.com (k h) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:14:15 PDT Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk to CD-R Message-ID: <19980921231415.3434.qmail@hotmail.com> wouldn't it be better if you made a tape of yr record to send to someone to make a CD-R? if you made a good tape, the sound quality lost wouldn't be noticeable. someone made me one from a tape and it sounds great. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From conform at xxx.com Tue Sep 22 00:16:56 1998 From: conform at xxx.com (Seamus Campbell) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:16:56 -0700 Subject: Sinister: November 1 New York Tickets Wanted Message-ID: <01FF24001403D011AD7B00A024BC53C53BF2D3@cane.deming.com> hey sinisterines -- i'm coming to new york! my first trip off the west coast! yay! i'm looking for 2 tickets to the nov 1 gig though. if anyone can help me out i would appreciate it tremendously. oh and if anyone has floor space for a couple bedraggled west coast kids during the week of nov 1-8 please let me know. we can work something out, i'm sure. also i want to thank linda kerr for helping my friend max with a ticket to one of the marysville gigs -- she hada great time and i got a stuart murdoch set list out of the deal... yay! new york! belle and sebastian! yay! seamus +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mwsnyder at xxx.edu Tue Sep 22 00:27:10 1998 From: mwsnyder at xxx.edu (matthew william snyder) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 19:27:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk to CD-R Message-ID: <199809212327.TAA13162@red.seas.upenn.edu> okay, since this has been brought up a bunch of times, here's the response from one of those times. it's from the archives. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Re: Sinister: Can anyone in US burn me a Tigermilk CD? Funkyseb at aol.com Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:04:40 EDT Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: Rod Begbie: "Sinister: Business Proposal" Previous message: Gillian McKay: "Sinister: cover star" Maybe in reply to: bilner: "Sinister: Can anyone in US burn me a Tigermilk CD?" Next in thread: david kitchen: "Re: Sinister: Can anyone in US burn me a Tigermilk CD?" Right, I'm big and grown up now, I think it's my turn to answer this one. Look, Jeepster and the band are very sweet in turning a blind eye to the exchange of *tape* copies of Tigermilk, as long as it's not for profit. But, as we all know, it is illegal to bootleg albums, even if they are as life affirming as that album is. And the point is, a cd-r of the LP is a bit too professional, and bit too easily reproducable for Jeepster to ignore. So, to all newbies, please don't shout about making CD-Rs on the list, if you must do it, 'cause things get uncomfortable, and David + Katrina have to stop being lovely bunnies, and get serious. Which no-body wants. It's happened too many times before. It's going to come out again sooner or later, on CD, so please be patient, and put up with your scratchy old tape dub for a bit longer, like everyone else :-) God, that was a but sensible. seb (who's nearly finished that review. just a bit of polishing left, some nfinitives to stick back together, etc.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- apologies to funkyseb at aol.com for resending this message. i don't think he'll mind though. -matthew | | wouldn't it be better if you made a tape of yr record to send to someone | to make a CD-R? if you made a good tape, the sound quality lost wouldn't | be noticeable. someone made me one from a tape and it sounds great. | | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MileEndGrl at xxx.com Tue Sep 22 00:45:51 1998 From: MileEndGrl at xxx.com (MileEndGrl at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 19:45:51 EDT Subject: Sinister: music Message-ID: <6a7926b5.3606e52f@aol.com> Other favorite bands? Hmmm I love Gorky's Zygotic Mynci, I love them, I adore them, I cherish them! Obviously Pulp, Embrace, Super Furry Animals, Blur, the artist know as Graham Coxon, Manic Street Preachers, elliot smith, better than ezra, bjork, REM, Ben Folds Five to name a few. Are there any meets planned for the New York show November 1st yet? I just can't bear to go to the show alone. Cass +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amarnold at xxx.edu Tue Sep 22 00:52:05 1998 From: amarnold at xxx.edu (Alex Arnold) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:52:05 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Chicago Show Message-ID: <199809212353.SAA30886@mail1.doit.wisc.edu> Hi there, I am yet another newbie to the list, and for all of you sick of reading introductory posts--here's an introductory post. My name is Alex and I reside in Madison, WI. I absolutely adore B&S and I too would appreciate it if someone in the US would be willing to tape a copy of Tigermilk for me. I quite enjoy this list as most of you seem to be completely out of your gourds (and I mean that as a compliment). Having gotten rid of the obligatory first post pap, I was wondering if there is someone in the WI vicinity going to the B&S show in Chicago. I'm looking for a ride to and from the gig. Anyone willing to give me one gets a free ticket to the show, compliments of moi. I'll also pay for the petrol. E-mail me privately at amarnold at students.wisc.edu Thank you, Alex +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From krissy9 at xxx.us Tue Sep 22 01:13:50 1998 From: krissy9 at xxx.us (Krissy) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:13:50 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Sinister: I'm going to reply to everything at once, saving you scroll time. , Lucky you. In-Reply-To: <199809200000.BAA16152@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > > hmm. i got my copy from a big fat "new releases" display that had about 50 > of 'em at newbury comics in amherst massachusettes. > it only cost me $11, because they mark down all their new releases to $11. > see, i had like $30 just in case i could only find the UK release. > i was actually surprised that i found it so easily. > and i'm not really sure whether to consider newbury comics an indie store > or not. they basically started out as an indie store in boston, but have > since branched out over massachusettes. same thing with mystery train. Kerry-- You lucky city-dwellin' girl! I went to Hastings, asked for the album and was met with blank stares and searches in vain. But I finally did get it, so why am I complaining...? Music tastes? I know I'll put a list down and think, "Wait! I forgot ___!" But, I'll give it a go... Pulp, Morrissey, the Smiths, Blur, the Talking Heads, The Stranglers, Radiohead, Stevie Wonder, Frank Sinatra, the new Rialto (plug-plug), Supergrass, Sleeper, the Rentals, that dog., the Pixies (and all the member projects since), Elvis (both of them), Ash, Duran Duran, Adam Ant, some REM, Kitchens of Distinction, and all of the sudden I'm trying to picture my CD holder mounted on the wall across from my bed and I'm drawing a blank. This feels eerily like filling out a slam book. Such pressure to impress. Yikes. Rory, Jonny-- those lists you posted were terrific! Beautiful reads, both of them (though, Rory, I'm sure it's the Health Gods who interjected to keep you from eating all that bacon. :) ) Krissy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SpaceboyUK at xxx.com Tue Sep 22 01:17:21 1998 From: SpaceboyUK at xxx.com (SpaceboyUK at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 20:17:21 EDT Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk to CD-R Message-ID: <945b03d3.3606ec91@aol.com> In a message dated 98-09-21 19:38:45 EDT, mwsnyder at seas.upenn.edu writes: << okay, since this has been brought up a bunch of times, here's the response from one of those times. it's from the archives. >> yes but this person has an actual RECORD of tigermilk so i'd say he has the right to put it on CD because he bought it(or were tigermilk LPs given??) oh well. thats all i have on the subject. -a,james +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Tue Sep 22 01:52:40 1998 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 19:52:40 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk to CD-R In-Reply-To: <199809212327.TAA13162@red.seas.upenn.edu> Message-ID: Comments from Jeepster would be most welcome. (BTW I'm told by a reliable source that Jeepster do not actually own the rights to Tigermilk.) The cat is out of the bag... Pick your cliche. It's time either to foil the bootleggers by reissuing the album, or else face up to the fact that an analog tape is no more difficult to mass-produce than a digital copy. The only difference is generation loss. The only other way besides a reissue that would foil the bootleggers would be to form a non-profit CD-R tree so that nobody has reason to buy one. That is copyright infringement as well, but at least it isn't profiteering. (I confess I'd be eligible to be at the top of that tree, but I have no intention of organizing such an effort. I would, however, lobby for a reissue.) I am not happy to hear about a for-profit bootleg, but that's the simple truth of the current situation. I raised the possibility a few weeks ago that someone would press a bootleg. If it so happens that the bootleg(s) is (are) of good quality, then it relieves only one of my concerns. As a composer with a disc out in a few weeks, I am very sensitive to copyright issues. The label sent out some promotional copies recently, and within two days I got word that someone had promised to MP3 the whole album and upload it to servers... To clarify one of my earlier comments: It is possible that the perceived value of _Tigermilk_ to the band, management, and label(s) is greater as a semi-legendary "lost record" with enough demand to be bootlegged, than as a reissued CD. I don't know this. I don't even particularly think it's true. But it is possible, and it is a strategy that might be effective. --Mark __ October 19th: SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Tue Sep 22 02:07:15 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:07:15 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Problems Message-ID: <008e01bde5c5$577befa0$d79fcdcf@brier> Is anyone else receiving most of the postings TWICE? Why is that? And PLEASE.... read the damn archives before asking something that's been asked literally fifty times before. And NO MORE LISTS of your damn favorite bands. There, I'm done. Back to reading my remaining 45 posts. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brier at xxx.com Tue Sep 22 02:12:04 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:12:04 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk to CD-R Message-ID: <009f01bde5c6$0457f340$d79fcdcf@brier> Yes, but regardless of whether the person bought Tigermilk or was given it or found it on their doorstep... copying a published recording in ANY form is illegal, and I think Jeepster is being kind in allowing us to tape it for others, and CDs maybe go too far, as Snyder pointed out..... -----Original Message----- From: SpaceboyUK at xxx.com> To: mwsnyder at seas.upenn.edu ; sinister at majordomo.net Date: Monday, September 21, 1998 5:23 PM Subject: Re: Sinister: Tigermilk to CD-R > >In a message dated 98-09-21 19:38:45 EDT, mwsnyder at seas.upenn.edu writes: > ><< okay, since this has been brought up a bunch of times, here's the response > from one of those times. it's from the archives. >> > >yes but this person has an actual RECORD of tigermilk >so i'd say he has the right to put it on CD >because he bought it(or were tigermilk LPs given??) > >oh well. >thats all i have on the subject. > >-a,james >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Tue Sep 22 02:58:20 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 02:58:20 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: PLEASE READ: evil babysitters Message-ID: Actually there won't be one. This just to say that your list manager will be away for some of this week and next, and expects you all to be good bunnies, not make rude signs to the neighbours, and not feed your little sister to the dog. And keep the house tidy. I'll probably pop in remotely to do any maintenance I can, and because it will cost me I will be less patient... grrr. And thanks for reading my last long rather serious mail (if you did) and if you didn't then go and do so now - it's become mandatory as a lot of people are ignoring it. It's at: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/hypermail/current/0823.html - there, that's nice and easy for you. I'm going to start getting tough as the survival of this list depends on it, so a few people will be hearing from me shortly if they don't show some public spirit and do what's needed to keep this list alive. I'm even prepared to make some of you the ultimate sacrifice. The list rules aren't optional and I will do what's needed to make sure this remains a good place for people to be, based on what people tell me they want. Remember discussions about what mails people should be sending to mailing lists are best done privately with the list manager rather than on the list or we all disappear up our own back passages. Messy. So please, although it's tempting, don't mail the list and start a discussion about what's appropriate on the list. It's terribly self-referential and doesn't make for an enjoyable list. The rules of behaviour are very clear and no-one's got any excuse not to read them - and everyone can see people who aren't. None of you should be telling the list how to behave - that's my job and I know how to do it by now. Your job is to enjoy yourself and post things of value for the rest of us. Please don't post multiple posts with little content. Bundle up your thoughts for the day into one mail. I've said it before, in almost all circumstances, if anyone's posting more than two mails a day, you're getting something wrong, and everyone can see. Think before you post. CD-Rs - it's not as if this hasn't been hashed out a million times on the list before - we don't want the same old debate again please. If you have something new to say, you'd better have checked the archives first. Jeepster's position is clear, they turn a blind eye to taped Tigermilks, and don't want to have to take action against digital copies, so don't want to know about it on the list. The delay in reissuing Tigermilk was the band's decision as far as I know, not Jeepster's - see the online chat - so they have to accept the consequences. Tigermilk will be reissued next year. You may disagree with Jeepster's position but this discussion's a blind alley - they choose to draw a line between analogue and digital copies. No-one's *really* saying that someone who does a copy for a friend and doesn't earn cash doing it is a hardened criminal - this list is independent, so if you want to tell everyone you're pressing 100 copies a day and making 15 quid a copy you *can* but don't be surprised when Jeepster come your way. The possibility of mass-produced bootlegs was raised countless times 9 months ago - it was clear it was going to happen then and we talked to the band about it in the online chat. They didn't care so much - I think they do now just because disreputable people are making solid cash - it's not nice to see your creation turned into a hard earner to unscrupulous gits. Professional bootleggers are making money out of music they care nothing about right now - shame on you if there's anyone on the list who helped them do it, but it's really not a surprise to anyone. And if you're doing your own copies, just do it privately ok? Again, let's not discuss this all over again unless you have something startling and new to say. And let's not discuss discussing it. End of rant. Oh, whoever set up this mailing list as a recipient of the Technosphere online game stuff - a minority of people found the first mail mildly diverting, but it's not funny after 10. I'm blocking these mails to the list now after a lot of requests, but could you take the list off it now please? I don't want to be still stopping these mails in a year's time. And stop chewing that gum when I'm talking to you. And sorry to anyone who's waiting for email from me, as always, it's not forgotten, but tucked into my bodice for later. I'm dead busy but I promise not to forget anyone who's asked for anything, if you'll be patient. Some of you have sent me really nice emails too, with some fine suggestions for the list. Reid - I'm so sorry not to put those TWITBUS chords up on the WWW page, I'll try and do it before I leave. And it's Oon's birthday today. So, you lot, be good. It's quite late isn't it? Grr :) Honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Blurfannj at xxx.com Tue Sep 22 03:36:01 1998 From: Blurfannj at xxx.com (Blurfannj at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 22:36:01 EDT Subject: Sinister: Ticket for Nov 1 in NYC Message-ID: <17ae103e.36070d11@aol.com> Does anyone have an extra ticket for B&S on 11/1 @ The Supper Club in NYC? If so, I'll pay you for it. Email me privately off the list if so! Thanks Ethan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dubet at xxx.edu Tue Sep 22 03:57:05 1998 From: dubet at xxx.edu (The Dude, a.k.a. Timmy D.) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 22:57:05 -0400 Subject: Sinister: A quiet, non-violent request... Message-ID: <36071201.899D3A71@mail4.bc.edu> Hello, All of you AOL users- do you mind if I put you on a "sebbie's" list (buddy list, but funkdafied)? If no, email me privately. If you have some other form of communication (aol IM's from netscape, as I do) i'm more than willing to put those up as well. Love and Rockets -Tim- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dubet at xxx.edu Tue Sep 22 03:59:11 1998 From: dubet at xxx.edu (The Dude, a.k.a. Timmy D.) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 22:59:11 -0400 Subject: Sinister: oooops... Message-ID: <3607127F.1303E4B5@mail4.bc.edu> I forgot one thing- you can look for me as CanuckTDBC if you wish. Liz Phair for all, =Tim= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mayfly8 at xxx.com Tue Sep 22 04:15:18 1998 From: mayfly8 at xxx.com (Kristy Fraser) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 20:15:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Another awful intro Message-ID: <19980922031518.28777.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Well, I am beginning to think myself a bit of a voyeur here. So before I let myself slip completely into the realm of the perverse I feel that I should introduce myself. Perhaps then I will be more likely to speak up in the future. Here it goes....I'm Kristin, 24 and absolutely nuts for B&S. It has become the soundtrack for my life (I know, I know, that was bad).... the music works anytime, anywhere... on the bus, at the park, reading in bed (The Collector right now....) I just can't be bothered to listen to anything else anymore! I got my tickets for the Toronto gig the minute they wen't on sale.... hurray!!! I would love to hear from anyone else who is going to the show.... or anyone else for that matter! K _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Tue Sep 22 05:19:42 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 00:19:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: the three minutes from tuesday poem Message-ID: i'm actually getting ready for my creative writing class right now, and looking at poetry, and then it just occured to me that we still haven't gotten a monday poem yet!!! horrors!!!! so i'll do this week's and then joss can do next weeks. though i think that matt needs to do one rather badly. so anyway, i'll just use dorothy parker. she can get pretentious, but she has a beautiful sense of humor. and this one is my favorite by her. Threnody Lilacs blossom just as sweet Now my heart is shattered. If I bowled it down the street, Who's to say it mattered? If there's one that rode away What would I be missing? Lips that taste of tears, they say, Are the best for kissing. Eyes that watch the morning star Seem a little brighter; Arms held out to darkness are Usually whiter. Shall I bar the strolling guest, Bind my brow with willow? When, they say, the empty breast Is the softest pillow? That a heart falls tinkling down, Never think it ceases. Every likely lad in town Gathers up the pieces. If there's one gone whistling by Would I let it grieve me? Let him wonder if I lie; Let him half believe me. xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Tue Sep 22 06:59:28 1998 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgal) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 22:59:28 PDT Subject: Sinister: 5 days to stockholm gig... Message-ID: <19980922055928.5509.qmail@hotmail.com> well you guys...course we can play br�nnboll, we can do that:) well see when we get there...I'll bring some thing to play with though..and if we feel like feeling stupid and trying cricket we could do that aswell.right? :) well as for the weather..soem said it would be nice and some did..so we'll just have to see about that..atleast where all meeting and that's the main cause right.. hope noones mad about this idea..i just thought it would be nice.. and god hope the wheater is with us..:) so se yall then saturday at 17.00 medborgarpatsen T , (tunnelbana, underbground station that is) where the sp�rrar are when you go up to the street folkungagatan infront of the "Pressbyr�n" see you there...I could like have some big sign with me..saying..like mad sinister freaks or something..:) take care..and whatever you do don't get sick until saturday..you woudn't wanna miss that dreamcometrue show.. huggles Rebecka... # go and have a peek at my page it's constantly developing, http://www.angelfire.com/me/Mizzy # ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Tue Sep 22 08:21:42 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 00:21:42 -0700 Subject: Sinister: CHICKFACTOR Message-ID: <002a01bde5f9$a71f36a0$769fcdcf@brier> Isn't it about being far away from his girlfriend and flirting like mad, then having to face her again with a face-full of guilt, trying to hold onto his smile in front of her while being gnawed at by the image of a handful of beautiful sexy women that he wonders if he could have (or should have) shagged? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xbudynek at xxx.jp Tue Sep 22 08:44:52 1998 From: xbudynek at xxx.jp (Julien Budynek) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 16:44:52 +0900 (JST) Subject: Sinister: feeling sinister Message-ID: Salut les copains, bonjour a l'autre Julien francais! Et a tous les autres aussi. Warning: no list in that mail, just bits of my life in Japan... The other day, in that tiny record shop in Nara, I fell instantly in love with that Japanese young girl (brunette, lovely glasses, perfect skirt) who was buying the vynil version of our beloved TwattyBus. How I wish I spoke better Japanese and said to her "I wanna know you girl!" That really made me sigh. Today Pulp are playing in Osaka. I have a ticket. I am sooo excited. BUT there is a typhoon over Osaka, I am currently watching it by the window of my office. And the trains do not work. Which means I am stuck at work. How sad, isn't it? After a few weeks of intensive Twattying, I must admit that I can't decide which is my favorite song. Everytime someone sends a mail saying: "how about that one" I say "yes you're right"... I agree with every person. Maybe I have a slight preference for "It's a cricket not a pear" cause I can play it on the guitar. I don't sing as well as Isobel though. I totally agree with Julien, who said TwattyBus made him think about "loaded" by VU. You're damn right, it especially reminds me of the alternate mix of the album we can find in "fully loaded". cheers all julien --- et puis toujours: http://diane.isCool.net/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Wed Sep 23 09:16:22 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:16:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Don't tell mum the babysitters dead Message-ID: <199809220822.JAA02582@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Hi ya you stunning little sinistereens, Firstly can I wish Honey a happy Holiday. At least we will have a few days with out one of his mega long mailings saying READ THE ARCHIVES, so in his absence I will take it upon myself just to include this line in every mail I send. Secondly I saw a Tigermilk bootleg in a store the other day. It had the album cover 4 times on the front, in a kind of "playschool's square window" pattern. (Even though as far as i can remember that didn't have a cross in the middle, I just felt like putting in a reference to my ever distant youth) . It also had all 8 of the Mark Radcliffe sessions on the end, very tempting, but I've becomed quite attached to the romantic notion of just having a tape of a tape etc rather than a cd, although I'll still buy the offical copy when it comes out. Thirdly, Is no one willing to do me a tape of the looper and V Twin stuff as I asked the other day. Just thought I'd ask again in hope. As I said before I'll do a magnificent tape in return, and I'll even put "I KNOW WHERE THE SUMMER GOES" on it, now that really is an offer that can't be taken lightly. Fourthly, Have B&S stormed America in the wake of this morality crisis? It's just there seem to be more and more of the "newbies" (their words not mine) coming from across the atlantic. I'm trying to think of a way to find out where we all live without clogging up the list. My best idea so far is to have a big map on the sinister page with a little red dot where each one of us lives, with a close up on the UK, this would make it easier to find a central point for any picniccy meet ups. Thats one for you Honey! (only joking, I know it will be too much work, but how about a town listed after the email address of everyone on the list page?) Fifthly, Why am I doing this in numbered points, aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrgggggghhhhhh its a ...... LIST! THE GIRLS ARE HOLDING HANDS DON'T BE A FOOL IT'S 1995, THE GIRLS ARE JUST FRIENDS, Jake (SUSSEX,UK)! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From John.Stuart at xxx.com Tue Sep 22 09:16:12 1998 From: John.Stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart/mail+schedule) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 01:16:12 -0700 Subject: Sinister: music Message-ID: <93CA1ADD24AED111B6CF00A0C9067630250CAA@EDINBURGH> I know this thread will probably get out of hand, and we'll be asked by HoneyPaul to quit posting lists of bands we like, but I thought I'd list some of my favorite bands before he does! The Bathers, Tindersticks, The Lost Soul Band, 10,000 Maniacs, Natallie Merchant, Trembeling Blue Stars, The Beastie Boys, Air, Sugartown, Beck, REM, Money Mark, Arab Strap, Stone Roses, New Order. Cheers, John S. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From leggattn at xxx.edu Tue Sep 22 09:34:41 1998 From: leggattn at xxx.edu (N Leggatt) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 01:34:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: review, spin Message-ID: 1. has anyone talked about the october '98 spin review of tbwtas (an anagram of sbtwat, i see)? does anyone give a rat's ass? 2. and does anyone want me to type it and post it? or can the answer to this too be found in... The Archives (ives, ives, ives...) ? N __ "So many things we never will undo I know you're sorry, I'm sorry too Some people will offer you their hand and some won't Last night I knew you, tonight I don't" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Tue Sep 22 10:18:30 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 05:18:30 EDT Subject: Sinister: Moan moan moan moan moan... Message-ID: His dukeness wrote: <> yeah, good point. I recommend that people maybe read the list regularly before they post, so we don't get 400 emails saying exactly the same thing...a strange idea maybe, but hell! We're still getting lists of bands coming through now, even after horney had a (very polite) go...I'm terrified the list is going to explode at any m0ment, and then where will we be? Secondly, maybe we could look at limiting posts to one a day each? That still means possibly near enough to 700 posts, but then people might think about what they write a bit more. And where've all the old people gone? You know who you are! If no one shows the newbies what to do, then the list can't help but go a bit crappy. Which no one wants. Is that songs in french bit directed at me duke? 'cause I searched the archive and I'm still buggered if I can find anything about DIMANCHE DEJUENEE (sp), and his song C'EST ABSENT. Answers privately, please. God, this post shouldn't just be moaning, or I'll be as bad as the listing listees. Ooh, yeah, picnic on saturday! That's cheered me up no end. What a lovely list this can still be :-) I'll see you all there. Oh, and tag, I think that the sinister allnighter is the best name for an all night groove session, but can we rename the list Bootie Bounce instead? Far better name. I wonder what sort of people would subscribe then? anyway, bye bye seb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Tue Sep 22 10:18:47 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:18:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: CDR Tigermilks Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7B2D@COR-EXG1> >wouldn't it be better if you made a tape of yr record to send to someone >to make a CD-R? if you made a good tape, the sound quality lost wouldn't >be noticeable. someone made me one from a tape and it sounds great. Is it just me or can anyone else hear the unmistakable sound of Antipodean blood boiling ??? Watch out later kids for my amazing theories on Spaceboy Dream. Duke wrote : >Where on earth was i? oh yes, chap asked if the new record was any good >and i said no it's pish. there was talk of obtaining copies of Tigermilk >and i said i'd meet him in the toilets later but he didn't show. there >was no discussion of CDR, however. Mr Fitchett, EVERYONE knows that if you stay in the Gents in the Cavern for more than 3 minutes you get sucked into that hole in the wall - just above the third pisher, and into some dark and dingy sub-world where they only play Greenday records. Later playmates. Adrian. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From RBARRETT at xxx.ie Tue Sep 22 09:12:00 1998 From: RBARRETT at xxx.ie (Barrett Ronan) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:12 +0200 (CET-DST) Subject: Sinister: Monday Poem on Tuesday Message-ID: <01J23SYT6BCE00P0EZ@vms.eurokom.ie> In the finest tradition of the Monday poem, I'm a day late after offering to do it. Oh well. Simon Armitage is a Yorkshire poet who many of you will be familiar with from the much-missed Mark Radcliffe Graveyard Shift. As well as writing 5 books of poetry, he has also written a fine play called "Eclipse" and he has a prose book out now called "All Points North" which is well worth checking out when the paperback comes around. I've taken this one down myself from an audio tape by Simon called "Wild Blue Yonder", so apologies for any mistakes, etc. and all punctuation is mine (never my strongest point). I always think his poems sound better when he's reading them, as you miss certain stresses when the poems are written down (he almost spits out the words "You baby" at the end of this poem on the tape). The poem was written around the time that Robin was due to be dumped from the Batman comics - Armitage feels that Robin was "linguistically at least" the more important of the two. For next week's, I nominate Chris Leonard on the condition that his poem doesn't contain the word "pish". If he hasn't been "it" already. Kid by Simon Armitage Batman, big-shot, When you gave the order to grow up Then let me loose to wander leeward, freely through the wild blue yonder (as you like to say) Or ditched me rather, in the gutter Well, I turned the corner Now I've scotched that "He was like a father to me" rumour Sacked it, blown the cover on that "He was like an elder brother" story Let the cat out on that caper with the married woman How you took her downtown on expenses in the motor Holy Robin Redbreast nest-egg shocker Holy roll me over in the clover I'm not playing ballboy any longer, Batman Now I've doffed that off the shoulder Sherwood Forest green and scarlet number For a pair of jeans and crew-necked jumper Now I'm taller, harder, stronger, older Batman, It makes a marvellous picture You without a shadow Stewing over chicken giblets in the pressure cooker Next to nothing in the walking larder Punching the palm of your hand all Winter You baby Now I'm the real Boy Wonder -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: WINMAIL.DAT Type: application/x-tnef Size: 3090 bytes Desc: not available URL: From a-and-r at xxx.uk Tue Sep 22 11:18:42 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:18:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: 3 6 9 seconds of questions References: Message-ID: <36077982.AF88B824@jeepster.co.uk> hmmm ... can i be sarcastic for a bit? someone who i'm sure is really lovely wrote: > what about that little tune at the end of 3 6 9, after the final, 4th, > listed song ends. is it a track in its own right? what's it called? archives archives faq sinister site jeepster site archives etc etc etc .... Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cleonard at xxx.COM Tue Sep 22 12:45:55 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:45:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Sad Little Christmas Pies Message-ID: Here is a Christmas story, for some reason I am in a Christmassy mood. As usual it is entirely fictional from my head, and any similarities are unintentional. Oh and there's quite a lot of naughty swearies. You have been warned. Oh and Ronan, thanks for voting me for next weeks poem, but unfortunately I have already been 'it' and I only know one poem. Feel free to choose another more worthy person. Sad Little Christmas Pies =================== Background: Everyone knows that in order to be a proper pop star you have to have your own hall. Our Stuart has his little church hall and Stephen Pastel has a Masonic hall (lodge 710 glasgow north) Story: One frosty Morning in December our Stuart was doing a bit of sweeping up round his hall. "Ow , how I wove Chwistmas, I dwo I dwo I dwo and I wove happy dweams and pwesents and santa clwaus", he sang to himself. "And this Chwistmas will be extwa extwa special, cause on Chwistmas eve evewy young cawol singer in Glasgow will come to my hall for mince pwie. Hooway!!!". Stephen Pastel happened to be walking by and he overheard the excitement. He ran in the hall and pinned our Stuart up right up against the pwaise the lord sign. "Aye, that'll be fuckin right. Everyone's comin to ma lodge, ye daft wee cunt. And I'm gonna charge them a pound a pie. I'll make a fuckin fortune. Am I gonna have to pummel yer heed again? ya wee jobby". "No no Sweven, evwyone pwomised they'd come here after the wovely swinging about the little baby jesus for fwee pies for eveewyone - #away in a wanger no cwip for a beeeeeeed the little lword jeeesu#..ow". Stephen Pastel proceeded to punch our Stuart till he cried. As he left he threatened "you'd better tell them there all comin to ma lodge or else I'll fuckin have you and burn yer hall down, ya useless wee SHITE". Stuart was understandably upset. He knew that if all the carol singers went to Stephen Pastels lodge they'd have a miserable time. Since they were boys Stephen had bullied Stuart, and would definetely burn down the church hall if he didn't get his way. "I have to stwop him", little Stuart decided. "I need a pwan". December the 24th arrived. Stephen turned up at the church hall with a big whip, some petrol and some matches. He stood outside the front door. "ARE YOU THERE? CAN YA HEAR ME YA WEE CUNT? YOU HAVNAE TOLD ANYONE THAT THEY'RE COMIN TO MA LODGE FOR THEIR PIES HAVE YA, YA SELFISH WEE BASTARD. I'M GONNA FUCKIN BURN DOWN YER HALL FOR THAT, YA WEE SHITE." "Oh no youw're not". Stuart jumped down from a twee. "GET HIM, MY WITTLE FWIENDS!". Loads of foxes and sparrows ran out from inside the church hall and proceeded to eat Stephen Pastel. He tried to kung fu them off, but there were just to many. In a matter of minutes, there was nothing but bones which melted into the ground till he was dead. "Thwank you swo swo much, my wittle buddies. Now evewyone can come here for there pwies. Oh I wove chwistmas I dwo I dwo I dwo. And I wove wittle foxes and wittle spawwos and the wittle baby jesus." That night all the carol singers went to the Church hall and ate pies. And they were good. THE END +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Tue Sep 22 12:45:16 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:45:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Social Services - Buddle Lane Family Centre Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7B2F@COR-EXG1> Here it is...the amazing Spaceboy Confectionary Dream Lyric Theory. These ARE the actual lyrics...none of that dribble you pesky kids have been posting this last week or so. The truth is out...(well, it's out there somewhere)..Stuart David is a chocolate pigging get. NB. I've only got a fifteenth generation TAPE copy of TITWOBBLES so I cannot take any responsibility for errors in spelling, punctuation or downright lies. All I need now is for you kids to let me know why big Stu D isn't a right hefty fat bastard 'n all that. Answers to Gus Honeybun on the back of a Manchester Utd BT Phonecard to the usual address. SPACEBOY DREAM. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I dreamt I had to get a MARS I'm always MILKY BAR KIDDING on about getting a MARS or MILKY WAY But faced with the reality of it in my dream I wanted TERRY'S ALL GOLD And I wasn't going to like a MINI-TWIX There was three of us going (TRIO??) and we couldn't all go in the same ship We had a go at a TIMEOUT with a MILKY WAY between us I had a ROLO first, and it was the thought of passing through all that black space, All the darkness with caramel in it - and then being the first one to land there, all alone I knew it was supposed to be all dark around with just a red surface (Turkish Delight ?) But what if I got there and it was LITE...all KINDER SURPRISE and populated and stuff So I ate a flan. The other 2 ASTROnaughts were to be my dad and my sister And my dad would come first after me and so I decided when I landed that I would just stay in and eat until he got there And then we could both get out together and have a look for a BOUNTY and see what sort of things they were And when I woke up and I was lying on my back in the darkness I thought I had landed and I just lay still for a while eating till my dad got there with some more grub. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ So there you have it...not conclusive I'll admit, but it's there...you listen, and if you put your ear up to the speaker on the bits where it goes quiet, you can hear the song from those classic Finger of Fudge adverts of the seventies and eighties. Ronan on delivering the Monday poem wrote : >eJ8+IhoJAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAA >AElQTS5NaWNyb3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEgAEAFwAA >AE1vbmRheSBQb2VtIG9uIFR1ZXNkYXkAFQgBBYADAA4AAADOBwkAFgAKAAwAGAAC >ACQBASCAAwAOAAAAzgcJABYACgAJABsAAgAkAQEJgAEAIQAAADQxNjExQTdCRjM1 >MUQyMTFCQzdDMDA2MEIwNjg2ODc5APEGAQSQBgBoAQAAAQAAABAAAAADAAAwAw >AAAAsADw4AAAAAAgH/DwEAAABEAAAAAAAAAABglGRgQbgBCAArK4opAADLnCEAZAA >AC8AFQAAABQAJ3NpbmlzdGVyJwBzaW5pc3RlckBwaC5lZC5hYy51awAeAAIwAQAA Is it me or is Simon Armitage just taking the piss these days...this is NOT poetry. Later Playmates Adrian...BORED. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Tue Sep 22 12:53:39 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:53:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Frequently Asked Questions Message-ID: <01BDE628.058B0880@keith@qss.co.uk> I'm currently knocking up an FAQ list that we're hopefully planning on mailing to the list reasonably frequently so's that people can read them before firing common questions on to the list. There are numerous problems that need overcome sensibly when dealing with this... We do welcome new people, it's cool seeing loads of people having joined up in the last few weeks, naturally with this we've got a load of questions posted that have been gone through before on the list. One of the problems here is that people use computer speak instead of normal speak. FAQ stands for "Frequently asked questions". This may seem obvious to some, but basically, it isn't. I'm a computer science graduate and have been doing internet stuff since 1990, and it took me till about 1994 to work out what FAQ meant. The other problem is that people don't know how to get to a website to read the list of frequently asked questions... So to address this we'll mail out this list every so often. This is a preliminary draft, which is probably inaccurate in places, but people can take a look and comment on it. Also, if anyone can think of any other questions that appear frequently, then mail me and let me know and I'll add them. Here we go.. Frequently asked questions about B+S. The idea with this is that newcomers to the list can have a read at the file and will hopefully prevent the same questions being asked numerous times on the list. Hope it's of help. 1. What is Tigermilk, where can I get a copy? Tigermilk is the bands first album and was released around about May 1996. It was released as part of a Stow College course whereby Alan Rankine (of the Associates) fronts up the cash to record a single every year, although with Belle and Sebastian they decided that there was enough material for an album, hence Tigermilk. There were only 1000 copies pressed and so the record is worth a lot of money now. The band have always mantained that Tigermilk will be re-released at some point, and this will definitely be the case, currently it's looking like some time in 1999 is likely. 2. Who is the guest singer on Lazy Line Painter Jane? The female singer on Lazy Line Painter Jane is Monica Queen, formerly of countryish Glasgow band Thrum. Thrum released a record a few years ago, about 1994 I think. I can't remember what it's called though, someone else will have to fill me in on that one. Last I heard she was recording with her own band which is called "Monica", or at least that's what it was called in February 1997. 3. What is "Elvis" in A Century of Elvis. No-one knows bar the author really, but it's probably a cat, perhaps a tortoise, maybe actually Elvis, maybe it's Tortelvis from Dread Zeppelin who knows. 4. Who is in the band... Stuart Murdoch - singing guitar Isobel Campbell - singing, cello, various Sarah Martin - violin, weird things Stevie Jackson - Guitar Stuart David - Bass Mick Cooke - Trumpet, various Chris Geddes - keyboards Richard Colburn - Drums Neil Robertson has been known to play bass on Stuart David's "Spaceboy Dream", which brings me on to... 5. What other bands have members of Belle and Sebastian involved in? There's quite a number of things here. I'm sure it's not complete either, it's just what I can remember off hand. Chris Geddes : currently V-Twin and Golden Rodeo (think that's what they're called). Has played on Arab Strap records. Mick Cooke : Used to play with Hardbody, who released two singles on Epic (On your own, Hazel's hob). Now plays with the Karelia and the Amphetameanies. Has also played on releases by Mojave 3, Ex-Cathedra. Probably others too. Stuart Murdoch : Played on releases by Polarbear and Arab Strap. Richard Colburn : Has played with Polarbear/Snowpatrol Isobel Campbell : Has played on Arab Strap records. Stuart David : Stuart David has a side project called "Looper". There has been one single released on Sub-pop singles club called "Impossible things" and there is an album planned. 6. What records have been released? Tigermilk (LP) May 1996 If you're feeling sinister (LP) November 1996 Dog on Wheels (EP) April 1997 Lazy Line Painter Jane (EP) June 1997 3,6,9 Seconds of Light (EP) October 1997 The Boy with the Arab Strap (LP) September 1998 7. What's that song at the end of the 3,6,9 seconds of light EP called. It's called "Songs for Children". 8. What about all these unreleased songs that people keep belting on about in order to make themselves look smart? Pocketbook Angel London has let me down Hurley's having dreams These are little demos of old songs that will as far as we know, never ever be released as Belle and Sebastian. Loneliness of the middle distance runner Modern Rock song Rhoda People around the place have tapes of various different versions of these, they've been kicking around for a while and they may well be released reasonably soon. I Know where the summer goes The Gate These two will probably be a part of the next single 9. What sessions have they done on the radio? The first session was around about September 1996 here Mark Lamarr sat in for Mark and Lard at night... They played Judy and the dream of horses Like Dylan in the movies The State that I am in The stars of track and field The second was about February 1997 on Mark + Lard's program again and they played : I could be dreaming Seeing other people (slow version) We rule the school Modern Rock song The third was on Steve Lamacq's evening session and they played : Lazy Line Painter Jane Sleep the clock around Slow Grafitti Seymour Stein They did one of Stevie Jackson's tracks "Wrong Love" one night when the evening session was live from Glasgow. The fourth less well known session was on Peter Easton's Radio Scotland music program where he played : The Lonliness of the middle distance runner Slow Grafitti Modern Rock song. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Tue Sep 22 09:49:08 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:49:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Twice! Soul Weekendah Message-ID: <01BDE60E.3F259480@keith@qss.co.uk> Hell's teeth it appears that the Duke's been at the pub TWICE last night! That's not bad Alastair, you must've been more pissed than I was after the Shepherd's bush empire gig. I'm going to go to the pub tonight for some drinks I think. More precisely, it's the Greentree on the Cowgate at 8:30 in Edinburgh if anyone fancies it. James Errington wrote : (A). I'm VERY dissapointed at how conservative all these musical taste lists seem to be. No, really. The Smiths, Tindersticks, Radiohead and the Jesus & Mary Chain seem to be in all of the things. I guess the entire list owes "Weejay" an apology for their conservative tastes. Next time we'll all have to match up to his more exacting standards, remember kids next time you post a large list of bands, regardless of whether you like them or not, make sure they're not what Weejay would be expecting. Bear in mind that all 700 of us really ought to be making sure we don't disappoint him. Tag Wrote : Anyone fancy a pint? Fucking right mate. Let's do it, it's cracking on a bit isn't it. Right the Sinister Soul Weekender, what do people reckon to a weekender bash then? Would anyone come along? If we all went to Butlins and had some crazy times next summer for example? I think we need to concentrate on the one party thing that we appear to be having in Manchester around about New Year for the moment, but a big weekend would be a great laugh, who knows what might go on, it'd be well exciting and give everyone a great chance to meet each other. The mood on the list is always a lot better just after there have been gigs, cause people who've had differences on the list wind up meeting each other and discover that they're really nice people after all. Cheers, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NeilD at xxx.uk Tue Sep 22 13:40:57 1998 From: NeilD at xxx.uk (Neil Dewhurst) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 13:40:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Those pesky band lists Message-ID: <10714C6FC248D2119ED700805F7DF75503BB93@NCMSERVER> People just love letting complete strangers know what music they like in the vain hope that when the message is read the recipients will all sit around cooing and telling themselves how clever and sophisticated the sender is. Or they might find that they too like the unknown band on the list and let out squeals of excitement because there's someone else out there with intellect on a par with theirs. For the record I like Kid Kranec, Cider Kiss TNT, Bangle Café Tune, Esomo, Erdi, Teen Vamp, Dolores Bay, Toss Notes Here, and erm, and some more but you're probably bored or thinking "God, how depressingly mainstream"... And here's some band content. Sad trivia question 1- (and I apologise if lists start appearing on the list - it's just for fun) what B&S songs have the same name as songs by other people? Sad trivia question 2 - who cares? P.S. When are the band playing live, and how can I get a copy of Tigermilk, and what's wrong with lists, and who are the band members, and what music do they like, and why does everyone keep asking the same questions? "Oh get me away from here it's an emergency, I'm not the same anymore. If you want me you know where I am" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From S.Ludlam at xxx.com Tue Sep 22 14:55:00 1998 From: S.Ludlam at xxx.com (Simon Ludlam) Date: 22 Sep 98 13:55:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: LONG LIVE SARCASM- Message-ID: most of the bands i'm into are shite, but at least i have the decency not to inflict these onto strangers. Let's hear it for David Hasselhoff and Black Lace. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are released in confidence and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From John.Stuart at xxx.com Tue Sep 22 14:57:30 1998 From: John.Stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart/mail+schedule) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 06:57:30 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Those pesky band lists Message-ID: <93CA1ADD24AED111B6CF00A0C9067630250CB7@EDINBURGH> Neil Dewhurst wrote... > People just love letting complete strangers know what music they like in > the vain hope that when the message is read the recipients will all sit > around cooing and telling themselves how clever and sophisticated the > sender is. Or they might find that they too like the unknown band on > the list and let out squeals of excitement because there's someone else > out there with intellect on a par with theirs. > ....or they might think.."Hey, I like a lot of those bands too, but I've never heard of others. That person seems to have similar taste to me, I think I'll give those other band a listen to". I first heard of Air and TBS on this list. My recommendations might influence others. Just a thought. John S. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Tue Sep 22 15:43:01 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (JJ) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 15:43:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: feck off with your pesky lists References: <93CA1ADD24AED111B6CF00A0C9067630250CB7@EDINBURGH> Message-ID: <3607B775.7AC8@seahouses.u-net.com> John Stuart/mail+schedule (crazy name,crazy guy) wrote: > ....or they might think.."Hey, I like a lot of those bands too, but I've > never heard of others. That person seems to have similar taste to me, I > think I'll give those other band a listen to". However there is a difference between mentioning one or two bands who butter your muffin and listing your entire CD collection. JJ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk Tue Sep 22 15:55:36 1998 From: Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk (Sarah Wheeler) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 15:55:36 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Molecule type stuff Message-ID: <199809221455.PAA13398@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk> I am really sorry to ask this, but can I appeal to any chemists out there (there must be at least one out of the 700 of yous lot)?? I need to know what the collective name for an NH group is.....I know NH2 is an amine (isn't it?)...... If you do, can you e-mail me privately, and let me know? Sorry for abusing the list in this manner........I'll never darken your doorsteps again, I promise. Yours in anticipation Sarah x ======================= Sarah Wheeler Room 106 West Medical Building University of Glasgow GLASGOW G12 8QQ 0141-339 8855 ext.2860 ======================= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From John.Stuart at xxx.com Tue Sep 22 16:19:29 1998 From: John.Stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart/mail+schedule) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 08:19:29 -0700 Subject: Sinister: feck off with your pesky lists Message-ID: <93CA1ADD24AED111B6CF00A0C9067630250CB9@EDINBURGH> "JJ" wrote.. > However there is a difference between mentioning one or two bands > who butter your muffin and listing your entire CD collection. > Hmm, Point taken, but my list was of bands I listen to a lot. This thread is about to burst into flames, so lets drop it. John S. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Tue Sep 22 16:26:39 1998 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Dr C.B.Stride) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 16:26:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Rather late Leeds gig review... Message-ID: <13B7A2985936@woodhead.shef.ac.uk> ...on the Offbeat website, http://www.shef.ac.uk/~offbeat/ in the 'gigs' section. Chris C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk *** daytime: 0114 2223262 *** *** FAX: 0114 2727206 *** *** evening: 0114 2306539 *** "Watford FC Supporters - South Yorkshire branch" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Tue Sep 22 17:52:37 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:52:37 Subject: Sinister: Gigs in Europe Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19980922175237.2e5f84ba@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Hi all, Is there a band opening for Belle and Sebastian in their next gigs in Europe ? I hope the answer is not in the FAC :) Philippe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blewis at xxx.com Tue Sep 22 17:26:42 1998 From: blewis at xxx.com (Barney Lewis) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:26:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ink polaroids and movies - how I found Belle and Sebastian.... Message-ID: <55DA911DCC48D111B23E0060972FDF720C5107@prince01> ..... or did they find me? A picture from the dawn of the eighties of a six year old boy with a big grin and unfeasibly large NHS specs on. Not to mention a tres cool (in retrospect) t-shirt with the word 'laser' on it. He has just been told he has to wear glasses forever because he reads too much. Already showing signs of being clever, he is unaware at present that the combination of natural mental and enhanced visual acuity will forever mark him out as a 'swot', a 'brainbox' and immediately mark him out as an easy target in the parks and playgrounds of East London. Indeed, he is far to amazed with his new found ability to see objects more than ten yards away to be concerned with the such future problems.... A small, unadventurous boy stares out from behind glasses which are still too big for him. He stands in the smart school uniform of a public school to which he gained a scholarship. No-one expected it; no-one in his family has ever got beyond A-levels at school, and most of them were failed. He hates it. He is small, clever, bespectacled and there to boost the grades. The majority of his fellow pupils are large, rich and arrogant. His friends all live far away; he hardly sees them outside of school. It is not a boys-only school, but boys and girls are kept separate until 16. He hasn't spoken to a girl he is not related to for almost three years. He clutches a walkman in his hand; it is the most important thing in his life. Tracking Shot; the camera is following a scruffy young student through the shopping centre of Bristol. It is the middle of January; it is dull, grey and he moves through billowing clouds of his own breath as he walks along. Our hero is now much older; having left school for university, and glasses for contact lenses, he is living in Bristol, where he formerly studied. He is skiving off his dead-end job, trying to cope with the depression that settles as fallout from the festive season. He has a little money left over from Christmas, barely enough to see him through 'til payday, but he knows what he needs. He walks from the shopping centre, up the giant staircase next to John Lewis and then descends the subway into the concrete jungle below; a nightmare of broken benches, urban alienation, tramps and didgeridoo-playing buskers. It's not pleasant, but it's necessary; for on the other side of the subway lies the record shop; not Our Price, or Woolies, but Replay Records - a spiritual haven of recorded music, our heroes gateway into a better world. As he steps inside, he thinks to himself "if I cut down on the cigarettes, I can just afford a new album...". Confronted by the racks he is paralysed by a familiar fear - what if he buys the wrong album? What could he be missing out on? He soon settles, though, and the surroundings soon take on the ambience of a comfortable, favourite room, almost as if a log fire blazes away inside, warming his soul against the greyness outside.... ....the camera follows our hero around as he flips nimbly through the racks. Almost an hour later, he is down to a choice of three, maybe four albums when a red cover, a woman posing langourously depicted on it, catches his eye. The name rings a bell - someone, or something, spoke highly of them somewhere - and he opens the case to find a short story. He stands and reads it, puzzled but with a slow sense of anticipation overtaking him. It's unexpected, but intriguing; he knows he has to buy it. He turns around and walks to the counter with it. The shop assistant carries on filing some records, fully aware of our hero at the counter and then after a short while turns to serve him. Elsewhere, this might have aroused irritation, or anger even, but not here; our hero has been in the same position, done the same job, and done the same thing. He hands the assistant the CD, and waits while a copy is retrieved fr him. Assistant (casually, whilst inserting the CD in the case): "That'll be 11.99, please" Our hero hands over the cash. The assistant hands him back the change. Assistant:"3.01 change. Thanks" Our Hero:"Cheers" As he pushes his way through the door clutching the CD in a small plastic carrier bag, our hero realises that darkness has fallen already, and pulls his coat together as he starts to make his way home through the evening gloom. Fade... Apologies for the length of this introduction, but I had to get it off my chest; I've only had access to the net for the last few weeks and only recently came across the list. It came as quite a surprise to find such a community of B&S fans out there, especially as I'd never meet anyone who liked them until quite recently, despite the above discovery occurring in Jan. '97. I hope I will get the opportunity to contribute more to the current discussions soon, but there is an awful lot of archive to get through.... ps, i've only just come across the ink polaroids site and this is my first attempt - again, apologies if required plus i'd like to know what anyone thinks... Barney. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eyh96 at xxx.edu Tue Sep 22 18:29:49 1998 From: eyh96 at xxx.edu (remaniac) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 13:29:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: nyc ticket Message-ID: i desperately need a ticket for nyc, nov.1 and will pay and/or trade my nov.2 ticket for one. please email me privately. thanks, emily +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sburon at xxx.fr Tue Sep 22 19:59:53 1998 From: sburon at xxx.fr (Stephane Buron) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:59:53 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Ticket to Paris Message-ID: <3607F3A8.576C@club-internet.fr> Hi Sinisterines... You all know Belle and Sebastian are playing in Paris (oct 6th) at La Cigale. The gig is sold out but I have a surprise for you : i've got a spare ticket and you can get it if you're nice and wise. You or one of your friends, of course. Just answer privately. Take Care Stéphane +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Gizmo451 at xxx.com Tue Sep 22 21:38:12 1998 From: Gizmo451 at xxx.com (Gizmo451 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 16:38:12 EDT Subject: Sinister: 40 watt club/tickets/under 18 Message-ID: <3b3c68e1.36080ab4@aol.com> Curiosity has gotten the best of me... does anyone who frequents the 40 watt club in athens know whether or not they card people? i'm willing to buy a ticket.. willing to travel down there.. but.. would they card me at the door? im 16.. and its an 18+ show.. i was just curious as to whether or not they have a reputation for actually checking... thanks! --Lara +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mick at xxx.com Tue Sep 22 22:19:46 1998 From: mick at xxx.com (Mick McMick) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:19:46 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Change of e-address, NYC picnic, Sweet FA, band lists... Message-ID: <36081472.C16A7881@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Hello there, Well I got back from NYC yesterday. Where to begin? Okay, first of all, for all those needing my e-mail services, I'm at for the time being. Actually I've been at this address for over two years now, it's just that now I don't have a forwarding address. On the subject of Sweet FA, if it is indeed Sweet Fanny Adams, there is a Momus song which mentions it. It's the one on the Patron Saints of Teenage comp, I think it's called something like "Murderers, the Hope of Women." Quite a good song, really. And the New York picnic was loads of fun, I have the bruises to prove it. I'm quite curious to see the photos of me battling with the "squirrel." I swear I had the upper hand until that bike got in the way... Anyway, I couldn't post a better description than the ones already mentioned thus far. We'll have some pictures developped eventually, I'd bet. And all this about bands lists. Really, um, Idunno, it just seems...well I know it's hard to stop yourself (I barely managed), but it's anything but impressive, for the most part (except Genevieve's ;). By that I don't mean that your lists of bands are inferior, but you just come off in a negative light, rather than the positive one you might think. If you just think for a bit, all this posting trouble business should be fixed. Just remember that there are a lot of people reading this, and if it's a common B&S question, as you can imagine we've already discussed it many times. And in case you're worried, like people say, there's the archives. It's just that this is a really fun list, and Honey does a great job of running it, and I'd hate to see all that end. Falling and Laughing, /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at oak.cats.ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - http://indiepop.com/sandcastle/ | | | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trug88 at xxx.com Wed Sep 23 00:21:09 1998 From: trug88 at xxx.com (k h) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 16:21:09 PDT Subject: Sinister: CDR Tigermilks Message-ID: <19980922232109.6485.qmail@hotmail.com> yeah, to agree with Spaceboy, how bad is it when you actually own the record and you're just using the CD-R for personal use? i didn't mean to cause such a stir b/c that's what i was talking about. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bluvelour at xxx.com Wed Sep 23 00:49:57 1998 From: Bluvelour at xxx.com (Bluvelour at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 19:49:57 EDT Subject: Sinister: tigermilk, anyone? also my zine and boston Message-ID: <2f06b2d0.360837a5@aol.com> thing one: if anyone would like me to make them a copy of tigermilk, i have a bootlegged cd that sounds divine i can make copies from. all i ask in return is a mix tape or especially some belle and sebastian rarities (of which i have none). just let me know; i'm at your disposal. thing two: i'd enjoy recieving poems, short stories, reviews, articles, photos or drawings that you'd like to see in a zine my boyfriend and i are compiling entitled "serotonin." so let me know about whatever imaginative and genuis and creative stuff you have stowed under your bed. thing three: i'm going to the boston belle and sebastian show on the 21st of october, so if anyone feels like starting a correspondence beforehand and possibly meeting up there, i'm all for it. that's it... x's, o's, and spaceships. *cindy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erinlew at xxx.com Wed Sep 23 01:30:44 1998 From: erinlew at xxx.com (Erin Lewis) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:30:44 PDT Subject: Sinister: The archives: Where the cool kids hang out Message-ID: <19980923003048.2626.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey kids, I went to the archives and did something useful. You know what? It's a pretty fun place. While I was researching all the poetry parrots (to reduce renomination), I found poems going way back before I joined, and I even learned that Trousers once referred to himself as Stephen. Nothing like a little history lesson. I also found out that Jeepster has a neat-o magnetic poetry site at www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/poetry/index.htm. Even if you haven't yet been nominated as Poetry Parrot, you can make your own poem, submit it, and become a celebrity! Anyway, the Monday Poem started way back in February, as far as I could tell. Contributors included Trousers (more than a few), Tim, Rob B, someone, Chris Leonard, and PJ Miller. Then the Monday Poem fizzled, until Charlotte resuscitated it in August. The most recent contributions (in order, and where you can find them) have been by: Charlotte..... 1998-month-08/0039.html PJ Miller..... 1998-month-08/0339.html Oon........... 1998-month-08/0425.html Genevieve..... 1998-month-08/0686.html Espadrille.... 1998-month-09/0011.html Debbie........ 1998-month-09/0203.html David Barker.. 1998-month-09/0467.html Megan......... 1998-month-09/0902.html Ronan......... 1998-month-09/0911.html Cal and Shawnie also contributed unofficial poems for our enjoyment. Joss Moorkens was nominated, but has not yet fulfilled his duty. You can find these poems by heading over to www.majordomo.net/sinister/hypermail/1998-month-xx/####.html. Please substitute xx for a month and #### for an actual number, or I will have to eat you. And Keith, you are ace for sending the FAQ out to everyone. Being nice goes such a long way in getting your point across. Love to everyone, Miss Erin ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mphintz at xxx.com Wed Sep 23 03:29:57 1998 From: Mphintz at xxx.com (Mphintz at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 22:29:57 EDT Subject: Sinister: NYC Picnic Ink Polaroids Message-ID: <945df6d7.36085d25@aol.com> This is an odd one, isn't it? Brian and I both have rather unpleasant looks on our faces. We can, and often, smile, but not when this was taken. Brian is carrying his bag with cds, the boombox, a shopping bag and a large poster tube; I have my packback, a camera bag, a shopping bag, and another bag with an awkward box full of more posters. Brian is trying to look at his watch, but is afraid that he will drop something in the process. I had asked Brian how much longer was the walk to the East River Park. A mile and a half on a bus takes a long time, but walking with heavy bags takes a longer time. We took a taxi to the park. This is of Mick attacking a bicycle with a chinese yoyo. A squirrel had been dropping things on Lauren's head; Mick went to teach the squirrel a lesson with his yoyo. He wanted to remind the squirrel who controls the world. And as things happen, soon Mick tripped over backwards onto the bicycle. The squirrel continued on its squirelly ways. Mick bruised and was given both sympathy and sarcastic remarks. I think I may have some more, but they have not been "developed" yet. :-) Living and loving Matthew +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kimpostor at xxx.com Wed Sep 23 05:41:42 1998 From: kimpostor at xxx.com (Kimberly Forrette) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 21:41:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19980923044142.26693.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> "JJ" wrote.. > However there is a difference between mentioning one or two bands > who butter your muffin and listing your entire CD collection. > Hmm, Point taken, but my list was of bands I listen to a lot. This thread is about to burst into flames, so lets drop it. AMEN TO THAT! Let's all just let that topic fizzle...in my humble opinion, it's causing far too much negative feedback. Are you with me people? with a zip-zap-zip and four ounces of vodka, kim "Can't we all just get along?" -Rodney King, 1992 _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vegasbaby at xxx.com Wed Sep 23 06:33:06 1998 From: vegasbaby at xxx.com (Courtney Knopf) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 22:33:06 PDT Subject: Sinister: don't forget!!! Message-ID: <19980923053307.19614.qmail@hotmail.com> http://kscr.usc.edu that's right. go there and click on the live link tonight between midnight and 4am pacific time to hear my show. feel free to call in requests at 213.740.1483. please. entertain me during the wee small hours. you know you want to. ~Courtney The Sultraness of Swing "I can dance but not follow you." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vegasbaby at xxx.com Wed Sep 23 06:35:47 1998 From: vegasbaby at xxx.com (Courtney Knopf) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 22:35:47 PDT Subject: Sinister: don't forget!!! Message-ID: <19980923053548.29345.qmail@hotmail.com> http://kscr.usc.edu that's right. go there and click on the live link tonight between midnight and 4am pacific time to hear my show. feel free to call in requests at 213.740.1483. please. entertain me during the wee small hours. you know you want to. ~Courtney The Sultraness of Swing "I can dance but not follow you." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jeffc at xxx.com Wed Sep 23 08:33:46 1998 From: jeffc at xxx.com (Jeffrey A. Croft) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 02:33:46 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Re: [barflies] don't forget!!! Message-ID: <199809230732.CAA02022@topeka.cjnetworks.com> Courtney! Your show is GREAT! I love all the latin influenced stuff! Keep it up! i'll be listening every week! Oh..and do you know what time it is here?!?!?! I'm staying up DAMN late to hear you!!! Keep it up! Jeff >From: "Courtney Knopf" > >http://kscr.usc.edu > >that's right. go there and click on the live link tonight between >midnight and 4am pacific time to hear my show. > >feel free to call in requests at 213.740.1483. > >please. entertain me during the wee small hours. > >you know you want to. > > >~Courtney >The Sultraness of Swing >"I can dance but not follow you." > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or >service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit >http://www.onelist.com/advert.html for more information. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Sep 23 09:13:13 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:13:13 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Pease Pudding Hot Message-ID: <01bde6ca$0369f5a0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Howay man! I'm Geordie Isaac Hayes an I'm gannin doon the pint for a gan an to get us some burds like? Howay! It's Timmy Five Bellies! An the drummer oota Kenickie! Howay! Paul wrote: Actually there won't be one. This just to say that your list manager will be away for some of this week and next, and expects you all to be good bunnies, not make rude signs to the neighbours, and not feed your little sister to the dog. And keep the house tidy. I'll probably pop in remotely to do any maintenance I can, and because it will cost me I will be less patient... grrr. It's that time of year again. Once again we are faced with a good given opportunity. Paul has gone away, so it's up to us to talk about him behind his back. I'll start: Honey aka Honey is a doctor of astronomy. He studied for mnay years, often under the tutelage of Patrick Moore himself, to earn himself this distinguished title. On his graduation day, he was awarded a certificate and an extremely large and powerful telescope. Paul was happy and relieved because at long last he was able to carry out the secret plan that he had harboured for so many years. He got home, whipped off his mortar board and cloak, revealing only a pair of leopardskin underpants beneath. He somehow managed to haul the enormous telescope upstairs and set it up on its special tripod in his bedroom. He sttled down and waited for the big moment. At last, seven hours later, Paul's dream finally came true! He was able to enjoy the sight of his neighbour, Mrs Matlockbath-Cablecar, wearing only her bloomers and corset as she pranced around her exotically perfumed boudoir. Yesterday I went to the pictures and it was a film and it was Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas and it says on the poster that it stars Johnny Depp but it doesn't, because I'm sure it is Lawrence out of Denim, so he's not on the dole at all, it's just a trick to get loads of inidie sympathy. Oh, a word of introduction for newcomers: My name's Peter, I've been lurking on the list for about a year now. My favourite music is "Behind Blue Eyes" by The W!H!O!, but not the slow bit at the beginning, just the bit near the end where they really give it some and rock out big time. I used to like Isaac Hayes, but he's sold out, the big turkey. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Wed Sep 23 09:53:51 1998 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins, Tim) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:53:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Me... Message-ID: Well, you probably won't believe it but I had a Belle and Sebastian dream at last. I rarely remember my dreams at all, so I thought I'd share the few shards of this one with you all. We (that's the whole list) were on a bus package holiday, going from town to town, watching Belle and Sebastian play. I know it would take a fleet of coaches to accommodate all of us, but this was a dream, OK? I didn't really identify any individuals, but everybody was having a great time and drinking squabbling and throwing up, and stuff. I remember the band playing a short synthesised song, in which Stuart sounded like Phil Oakey out of the Human League, round about the time of 'A Crow And A Baby'. It was...unusual. Anyway, a gig ended, and I was on my own, outside the venue. Appropriately enough, I had missed the bus. It was Glasgow, and I suddenly realised the tour was over. I was skint and it was the middle of the night. Keith Watson walked up with some young lady clinging to his arm and said, 'Hi Tim, we're off to a club...' and left. The bastard. And that was about it really. It was kind of appropriate, because this is my signing-off message. A year (more or less) of sinister has been fabulous, but I am off to seek my real-life misfortune elsewhere, and I have no idea when I'll be back in the land of e-mail again. Can I take this opportunity to say that some, indeed most, of you have been lovely, and that there haven't been many days this year when this list has failed to interest or provoke me. This list is a mighty and special thing, but it is also a bit fragile. Take care of it. The best way to take care is to try to make sure that *every time* you post, you put a bit of wit, or a bit of heart into your message. Then everything will be just dandy. I still can't think of a better place to give and receive friendly abuse, to get snarled up in pedantic arguments about pop ethics, to write to 600 strangers about your dreams, or to talk about the best pop group in the world. Whoever that might be today. Hopefully I'll see you again at some point in the not-too-distant future. If any of you are desperate to get in touch with me in the mean time, then you're sicker than I thought. Honey, thanks for having me. You're a P!O!P! genius. ;-) Cheerio one and all Tim +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed Sep 23 10:36:19 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:36:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Calling London students Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22230B31@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Hello. Having been inspired by the good doctor C.B. Stride and his rather fab-looking Sheffield club (the Warwick version of which I ran a couple of years ago), I am writing to ask if there are any students at any of the London universities who would be interested in helping me organise an indie club night in their place of study. Obviously as a non-student, I don't have access to the facilities myself, but I have a fair bit of experience and expertise, as well as a half-decent cd (and record) collection, and would absolutely love to be involved in running a club again. So if there is anyone out there who's been toying with the idea but doesn't know where to begin, or just needs some incentive to get off their arse, write to me privately, even if it's just to put me in touch with another like-minded individual. You can be pretty damn sure that it'd be a club you'd all want to come to (hmmm...), so it could be in your interest too... Anyway...I was listening to Sinister last night, having finally got it back from a friend who took rather too much of a shine too it, and I'm sorry, it really is that much better than Wor Lad wi' t'Arab Strap. No argument. And did anyone see the review of The Original Arab Strap in the Guardian today? "Belle and Sebastian may be the leaders of the new Glasgow scene, but Mogwai and Arab Strap are going to be the stayers", to paraphrase rather injudiciously. Bollocks, I say. Bye bye dreamers, Mark x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tanguy at xxx.fr Wed Sep 23 12:13:19 1998 From: tanguy at xxx.fr (Gwendal Tanguy) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:13:19 +0200 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <3608D7CF.6B86@hp1.esiea.fr> unsubscribe sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Wed Sep 23 12:07:45 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:07:45 +0100 Subject: Sinister: US Gigs Message-ID: <3608D681.23C025BA@jeepster.co.uk> Hello everyone, just a quick message to let you all know, that the Toronto show has now been changed to all-ages, so if you were hesitating in getting your tickets, don't! but, the bad news is that it looks like the Chicago show will stay at 18+ only. i think the bvenue make their own rules there, as someone pointed out on the list recently, but i'm just too darn busy to go through the ARCHIVES and check ;) oh, and the Atlanta gig should be all-ages too according to the promoter. don't thank me, thank lovely Neil ... i'm just the messenger. cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Wed Sep 23 13:45:50 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:45:50 Subject: Sinister: The winners of the tapes are... Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19980923134550.25df33c8@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> I have finally decided to who I will send the tape of the french radio session Belle&Sebastian will do on october 5th, so now stop asking me for tapes. I had to choose among 97 requests and my choice was guided by completely subjective and moral standards. The poor listees who were not selected by my narrow-minded spirit will have to knock on the nearest door if they wanna get a copy : For UK : duke of harringay and kenny For Ireland : Barrett Ronan For USA : "Jim Schmidt" For Spain : Jose Maria Sagúillo (hijo) (nice email José :) ) "Why only one tape for the USA and 2 for UK ? " asked the american ambassador in paris. Why not ? I am french and I do want I want with by tapes, my cheese, my worldcup champions and my bad level in english ! I was little bit disappointed that some of the listees proposed me some money to get tapes. Boo ! I do not want a single penny, I thought this was clear for all of you. But i thank *very much* all the boys and girls (especially the girls) who have sent beautiful messages to me. You would really do anything to get tapes! If I trust what you wrote - why should I doubt? - I am the "most beautiful boy in the universe". Some of you wrote that I was "even more pretty than Stuart Murdoch": I just want to be sure that Isobel knows about that important detail. Can anyone tell her the truth ? Now I know that I could have saved 18 lives when sending the tapes, but I am afraid I will not have enough time to do all that stuff, and I hope that all the dying listees won't have a grudge against me. I would like to kiss also all those who were ready to fly over the Channel or the Atlantic Ocean to give me the " most languishing french kiss than you've ever known". French boys are quite open-minded as far as kisses are concerned, so I will not consider this as a attempt of sexual harrassment (Kenneth Starr, I dont need you!). Love and (french) kisses, Philippe, the boy with the french tapes +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From babyblu at xxx.uk Wed Sep 23 12:53:56 1998 From: babyblu at xxx.uk (Rory Mackie) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:53:56 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Cleanse, tone, moisturise. Message-ID: <3608E154.3640@gold.globalcafe.co.uk> Just to underline what lovely Mark said about the proposed meeting of minds in my little back garden (just planted new grass, so it should come up lovely by the weekend). *Everyone* is welcome. You don't have to know me or anyone else on the list, and I certainly don't want you to sit there reading this thinking 'Oh, but he doesn't mean me surely. Why the man's a complete stranger' Because I do you know. With edible sugar stars and chocolate sprinkles on it. Festivities should start around 2pm and the house will be done up as a glorious Belle & Sebastian themed grotto. There will be a fox in some snow, simple questions to make a young boy sigh stuck to the fridge with magnets and a picture of a horse. Oh yes. Bring friends, booze, grub and an off-hand, carefree attitude towards life that's a little disquieting in a person of your years. Linda's already legendary croquet set *will* be making an appearance and all attendees will be expected to partake like maniacs, making out that they are Winona Ryder in 'Heathers.' Or something. Be there or be solely responsible for the collapse of communism in the Eastern Block. StayLuckyRoryxxx I have to go now, those Bacon and avacado sandwiches aren't going to eat themselves you know. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From padraic_fresheire at xxx.com Wed Sep 23 14:02:28 1998 From: padraic_fresheire at xxx.com (padraic doorey) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 06:02:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: it's nothing, lipstick, maybe a little blood.... Message-ID: <19980923130228.26985.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com> dear all. blessed art thou. i've been a tad quiet over the past few weeks so i hope a few of you at least can still remember who i may be... i've just called the cheesiest competition line in an attemot to get out to "marlborough country"....try dialling 0800 3285858 if you're in the UK and i challenge you not to giggle until trousers fall to your ankles. hum drum and party poopers all around, indian summer skies and pints and chocolate consumed in sunday's camden shade with mark, rory and linda and some non listees ('twill be only a matter of time), getting so into the cornelius album yet i'm sad at the propect of princess tara moving away from where-i-am-not-anyhow to a place even-further-afield, my sooper dooper cricket in boston played host to weary lucksmiths last night after their show, and this week seems to be flying by in the same vein as sinister september. The adorable T will be in NY the same time i will be along with Rory & Linda....hoping to meet other *fabu* listees and perhaps convince them to accompany this London/San Fran/Boston possee on their mini roadtrip to Philadelphia for the show on friday the twenty third of october(one month away today!!). talking of a london meet up, where to do it and whatever will we do??? bowling? pitch & putt??? picnic? an i'm celebrating the third anniversary of my 21st in a couple of weeks. where does the time go? does anyone know? (julia fordham where are you in my heure of need???) lovable stories which i cannot delete from my inbox include the one i receievd this morning about the bespec'd brainbox with supreme musical divining skills, jessica's wonderful tale of that no-good crush & dreams which made her dilly-dally further still in the trials of love, AND there was another one but i can't remember anymore so it mustn't have blown me away that much. philippe, is this a dating service? are you pedalling your wares in the hope to get kissy-kissies or to spread the gospel? (i'm on to you!) other stuff which tickled my woddle in the last few weeks included: 1)WILL!!! he's so cool! and has the sexiest scottish accent i've ever heard! there ought to be a public enquiry into why i don't fancy him... 2)DUB Tapes!! T sent me the finest dub tape ever last week...everything from the Pastels to Beat Happening to, well, everything. 3)THE COURT & SPARK!! friends band in SF rock my world with stuff recorded in a hairdresser's basement in santa cruz. 4)TIGERMILK! finally got a copy a fortnight ago and haven't looked back...hardly listen to anything off TBWTAS anymore except rollercoaster ride, sleep the clock around and spaceboy dreams. la la la. nothing compares to the state i am in. nada. love the belle. love the sebatian. 5)A HOUSE - i am the greatest...this was my very first cd purchase many years ago. yesterday, as i was successfully avoiding work, i checked out a website where some kid somewhere had posted a note looking for info on the band....i went home last night and reeled in my room to tracks like i don't care, take it easy on me and endless art. *fabu*, *fabu* babes. 6)LUSTING LIKE A HUSSY - complex is the situation, adorable is the boyee, but i've got a god awful crush that won't go away. and he's addicted to crunchies so he'll turn into a big toothless fat ass in a few years.... okay, i'm losing the plot here a bit.... yes, everyone go to rory's and linda's on saturday. we shall dance and be merry. ans play jenga. and enter the jenga olympics. *and* (this is for all you special NY listees), there is a chance that i might not be able to stay with my friend J when i get back from Philly on Saturday 24th....if anyone fancies putting up a fun (but respectful), wide-eyed (but well-travelled), honourable and trustworthy irish boy for two nights please email me privately, or please can someone let me know of somewhere CHEAP to stay! I guess that's it. Amen. Lady Penelope (men adore glam-ore) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Wed Sep 23 14:22:31 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 14:22:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Lists Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7B33@COR-EXG1> Bugger, everyones put a downer on lists for the mo...that's a shame cos I was going to do a top-ten list of lists that listees hate to see listed on the list...but I could only come up with top-ten lists and music-u-like lists so I needn't bother anyway. On a more serious note, I see in the letters of NME this week someones piped up and moaned about the shows and the number of cretinous noisey folk who thought it was a Def Leppard concert or summat....to which the twat who wrote the Live review last week replied in favour of the noisey people in a desperate attempt to be contraversial....well he's got my rag anyhows. I vote next London show, someone points out Mr Simon Williams and we gag him and tie him to one of the speakers and then all shout "TURN IT UP". We could also throw darts at him and stuff for a bit of post-show entertainment. Later Playmates, Adrian. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Wed Sep 23 15:51:03 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 15:51:03 Subject: Sinister: I new winner ! Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19980923155103.3bd75536@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Lady Penelope understands *everything*: >philippe, is this a dating service? are you pedalling your wares in >the hope to get kissy-kissies or to spread the gospel? (i'm on to you!) > Hum... I thought it was just a story between you and me and you were not supposed to tell everything to all the kids. But I am sure the others listees will close their eyes on that. As mister Stuart M. did, I have to apologise for not selecting canada. Though the competition was closed, I have to add a new winner to the list : For canada (you know, this small country somewhere around USA) : Sandra Duric Now the competition is closed. Philippe, the boy from the dating service +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Julie_Smith at xxx.com Tue Sep 22 00:02:14 1998 From: Julie_Smith at xxx.com (Julie_Smith at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: deja summer Message-ID: <01J256FM73SW8XYJIG@NOTELT.MED.IACNET.COM> Hey kids. I've gathered that comparisons make some listees tired and weary, but just for conversations sake . . .after listening to A Summer Wasting AGAIN I realized it sounds a lot like certain songs by Trashcan Sinatras. Which is cool with me cuz I like the Sinatras just fine. Anyone agree? Julie P.S. My roommate loves to annoy me by referring to Belle & Sebastian as Mckormick & Geoff. Sigh. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Wed Sep 23 16:17:40 1998 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetryplace2) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 16:17:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: If it were illegal / Would you love me like a beagle? Message-ID: <01bde705$638427e0$046b9ac2@g5-200-1> It has been a shameful week for us all. A decent man has been unfairly tormented by purveyors of smut and innuendo. He has been needlessly humiliated before a global audience, and the most intimate details of his life have become the stuff of prurient gossip. I refer, of course, to the minor kerfuffle over the painting which adorns my living room wall, henceforth to be known as the “The boy in need of an arab strap”. Now that the whole fiasco has died down, I can return to the list, and say just one thing: Peter, what on earth is a “Strawberry and Chocolate Scenario”? On second thoughts, maybe I really donÂ’t want to know. I followed funkysebÂ’s funkytip and watched that vampire nonsense on Channel 4 last night, to watch Miles getting chomped by bloodsuckers. It was complete tosh, but I learnt one thing: all vampires favour rollneck tops, to hide their exotic “hickies”. I am now eternally vigilant. And, strangely, there is one list member who has attempted to revive these garments, and is known to lurk in shrubbery and flowerbeds after dark. I suggest you take a gander at (http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/people/keithpissed.jpg) and think very carefully about going to Manchester this Xmas. My contribution to talking about Paul behind his back: everyone knows that Paul named his newts after characters in “Whatever Happened to the Likely Lads?”. But I bet you didnÂ’t know that this was no idle 1970s nostalgia: Paul is actually the illegitimate lovechild of tvÂ’s miseryboots, James Bolam! A quick bit of content: I was in our caff yesterday lunchtime, and a B&S tape was playing “It snows up Barney SumnerÂ’s nose”, and two seperate people went up to the bar to ask who this fantastic band were. It fair warmed the cockles of my heart. Back to gossip and in-jokes: So Farewell then, Hippo Hopkins. You were T!O!P! O!F! O!U!R! P!O!P!S! Your favourite artists were King Tubby, Ernest Tubbs and Buster Bloodvessel. We will all miss your ... ... ... ... Pinteresque pauses. Finally, the real deal. I mentioned last week I was preparing an exciting competition, and now it can be unveiled. IÂ’ve recently been delivered some new books by Ian McMillan, Simon Armitage and Glyn Maxwell, who some of you may remember from Saint Mark RadcliffeÂ’s nighttime show a few years back. To win these fabulous prizes I thought I would put the your poetry muscles to the test, so I now announce MR TROUSERSÂ’S EXCITING SINISTER HAIKU COMPETITION. A haiku, as you all know, is composed of three lines of 5, 7 and 5 syllables. Your task is to write a haiku on some aspect of sinister life. It can be about the list: Tell us your fave bands! We are all fascinated! No, really we are. About the band: Feeling sinister? Heed the words of Stuart D: This is pish, IÂ’m off. Or it can be an in-joke to ingratiate yourself to the DadÂ’s Army of Sinister Old-timers Though he has no lips. The song snake does not feel sad. His tongue is superb. Send your entries to me privately. Points will be awarded to haiku that display a feeling for the form, ethereal use of language, and imaginative use of the phrase “English Cock Cage”. A special prizewinner will also receive a signed print of the painting from my front room. The winners will be announced on October 8, which, as you know, is National Poetry Day. Avanti! Trousers xxxxx PS: Londoners! There will be another Shinister Shindig at the Poetry Caff in Covent Garden next Friday, the 2nd of October. I will put details up on the Jeepster events page soon. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From babyblu at xxx.uk Wed Sep 16 17:13:51 1998 From: babyblu at xxx.uk (Rory Mackie) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 17:13:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Firebomb the powers that be. Message-ID: <35FFE3BF.43AF@Gold.globalcafe.co.uk> Linda, being officially the *sensible* one, has suggested that some cold hard facts may be useful to anyone thinking of attending our little Bar-b-q, rather than me just posting irrelevant nonsense about Winona Ryder and avacados. So here goes. In case anyone gets lost/ needs to know exactly where they can get good humous in a hurry/ has second thoughts about coming and wants to be begged with, pleaded at and cajoled; our telephone number is: 0171 374 9259. We're usually back from work at around 7pm and will happily natter away for hours about how to get here etc..... Please feel free to bring games, tapes, guitars, kites, golf clubs, inflatable swimming pools, tramps bicycles etc. Although our back yard is but small the aim is to re-create the full sinister picnic experience. I'm sure with a little imagination and a lot of pluck we can transform it into a garden of earthly delights. Oh yes. Please ring the top bell when you turn up! Otherwise the Malaysian gangsters who live downstairs will be very confused indeed. Umm.. I can't really think of anymore usefull information, so ring or mail me with any other queries. Thank you for your kind indulgence. StayLuckyRoryxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Wed Sep 23 17:16:47 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:16:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: jeepster-news: on-line shop & web site Message-ID: <36091EEF.EF2D2653@jeepster.co.uk> first of all a big thank you to everyone who has ordered through the on-line shop. you've helped incredibly and as a reward we've gone and splashed out all our profits already. the on-line store has been upgraded to a fully operational secure server and has been expanded to include ALL of the merchandise and records (this includes the hard to get posters and mugs for belle & sebastian). as regards the web sites, we've placed a link on the front page (http://www.jeepster.co.uk/) to a page that is running a petition against the capital radio take over of the london alternative radio station xfm. this is something we feel strongly about and felt that we should be supporting. we've just completed updates of various parts of the sites, most are behind the scenes things. but key areas include liquid audio on the snow patrol site (some bits are still uploading as i type this, i'll make those available tomorrow!), an update of the voting system on the belle and sebastian site. an update of the fiction section on the belle and sebastia site. and a few other bits (see if you can find them). a new addition to the belle and sebastian site is buried in the news section. to relieve some of the strain on the 'sinister' mailing list a message board is running to help co-ordinate meet-ups at the forthcoming european and US gigs. you can simply post messages to help co-ordinate meet-ups or to find out more info. please note though that this is not a chat board and is moderated to keep it from being so, you should still use the 'sinister' mailing list if you just wish to contact and mail other fans (see the b&s site under 'mailing lists' for info). anyhow, that's it for the current info thing. for your info the b&s album made it to number 1 in the uk indie chart (number 12 in the big chart). cheers david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a message from the Jeepster Records news mailing list. Visit our site at http://www.jeepster.co.uk for more info. To unsubscribe yourself from this list send a message to majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'unsubscribe news' in the body of the message Any problems? mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From donovan at xxx.com Wed Sep 23 18:01:25 1998 From: donovan at xxx.com (donovan finn) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:01:25 -0400 Subject: Sinister: MUSIC BLVD Message-ID: Could the person who posted recently regarding their unfilled order from Music Blvd please email me privately. I am trying to correct this situation and need some info and seem to have misplaced your original post. Thanks, donovan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cms247 at xxx.edu Wed Sep 23 18:11:00 1998 From: cms247 at xxx.edu (clint stauffer) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:11:00 -0400 Subject: Sinister: NY shows Message-ID: <36092BA4.44CAC38E@is6.nyu.edu> Hello, Just saw that the second NY show has sold out and that the following opening acts will be joining B&S: Nov 1, Containe; Nov 2, Guv'ner. On a side note, at Other Music on East 4th St., the new album is #1 on the list of their top twenty best sellers with Sinister still hanging around at #13. Clint +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From phil.houghton at xxx.uk Wed Sep 23 08:03:04 1998 From: phil.houghton at xxx.uk (The Eclectic Electric) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 08:03:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: don't just hit REPLY! Message-ID: > When was it decided that Tigermilk was going to be reissued?!! It's > been that kind of a month - girlfriend goes, lock the keys in my dad's > car, vinyl nest egg humpties and dumpties into smithereens. They say > these things come in threes. > > To business: I don't have any vinyl with me in my flat, it's all in my > parent's house, so I'm not 100% on this, but I think I bought it from > "Electric Honey" records in Glasgow. Jeepster's interest I would assume > is either be as benevolent protectees of their artist roster or, if they > indeed have plans to release it in the future, the copyright will be > theirs by proxy. > > Having had a stern warning from Mr Kitchen et alia, I will not be > distributing CD-R copies. If there were no plans to re-release it then > I might be a bit more belligerent, after all, it's inevitably [going to > be] / [been] bootlegged, however in the circumstances it would seem a > bit pointless. > > > -- > The Eclectic Electric +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ken_davis at xxx.com Thu Sep 24 09:23:34 1998 From: ken_davis at xxx.com (ken_davis at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 98 03:23:34 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Gig(g)s in Europe Message-ID: <9809239065.AA906578298@smtp-gw2.putnaminv.com> Funny item... I opened up this mail with great anticipation, as I thought something had happened to Ryan Giggs. Was he not going to play in the Champions League match next week? I really have to start reading my subject lines more carefully! Ooops I'm missing list content. I picked up Boy with the Arab Strap this weekend and have almost crashed my car dozen times. Remember kids, don't dance and drive. Ken Topsfield, MA USA ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Sinister: Gigs in Europe Author: Philippe Garnier at internet Date: 9/22/98 5:52 PM Hi all, Is there a band opening for Belle and Sebastian in their next gigs in Europe ? I hope the answer is not in the FAC :) Philippe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TFertig3 at xxx.com Wed Sep 23 20:34:12 1998 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 15:34:12 EDT Subject: Sinister: back to the basics Message-ID: <461d2155.36094d34@aol.com> Gwendal Tanguy wrote: >unsubscribe sinister Ahh, this gave me a warm feeling inside, just a friendly reminder that this still is the good ol' Belle and Sebby list. Ahhh. Why, we haven't had one of these in quite a while! Gwendal, if you have not yet figured out, one goes about unsubscribing to the list by sending their mail to majordomo at majordomo.net. Just trying to be helpful. I gave my mother Stu M's secret code to crack (she's a master crossword puzzler and enjoys these sort of things) but she sadly could not come up with anything. In between my bits of homework I shall try some more. I did come up with one thing, but it's quite offensive and not very Stuish at all. Does anyone know if the Washington show is nearly sold out yet? I've been on this list for nearly one-sixteenth of my life! Bye bye, Tami +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Gntlmn1220 at xxx.com Wed Sep 23 18:37:22 1998 From: Gntlmn1220 at xxx.com (Gntlmn1220 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:37:22 EDT Subject: Sinister: November Second Message-ID: <78878c61.360931d2@aol.com> I sat there, waiting and waiting. Patiently saying to myself, "There will be more than enough tickets when I return to work on Monday... then Tuesday... then Wednesday..." Well, I put in a call today to the illustrious Hammerstein Ballroom for the fabled November second show, and lo and behold- all 300 remaining tickets have been sold. Well, needless to say, my heart sank and I let loose a mournful wail of dispair that caused my co-workers to look discerningly into my cubicle with a certain lost puppy look in their eyes. My need is not great, I so desire but two tickets to this show, and refuse to pay exorbitant scalper prices... Now, knowing that one and all on this list are honest and have perfectly spotless human souls, I would put a call out for two tickets to be paid- at cost- by me for the November second show. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. Joshua Who also dreams persistently of Horses +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com Wed Sep 23 17:46:21 1998 From: Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com (Anastasia Signoretta) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:46:21 EDT Subject: Sinister: deja summer Message-ID: hullo, julie and everyone else...i *do* agree about the trash can sinatras connection to 'a summer wasting.' though i can't place exactly which song it sounds like. speaking of the sinatras, what happened to them? i know they made another record after 'i've seen everything' and it flopped, no? speaking of coincidences...i was listening to the pale saints 'in ribbons' this morning and maybe i'm crazy, but if belle and sebastian were around during the good old shoegazer days of 1991 and rocked out a bit more, wouldn't the band then be reminiscent of the saints? call me crazy... cheers, stasia * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * anastasia signoretta atlantic records international media relations 1290 avenue of the americas 24th floor new york, ny 10104 212.707.2619 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------- Original Text >From , on 9/21/98 7:02 PM: Hey kids. I've gathered that comparisons make some listees tired and weary, but just for conversations sake . . .after listening to A Summer Wasting AGAIN I realized it sounds a lot like certain songs by Trashcan Sinatras. Which is cool with me cuz I like the Sinatras just fine. Anyone agree? Julie P.S. My roommate loves to annoy me by referring to Belle & Sebastian as Mckormick & Geoff. Sigh. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Wed Sep 23 19:38:55 1998 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:38:55 +0200 Subject: Sinister: space Message-ID: <3609403F.6CD5B587@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> I was swimming in the mediterranean sea and something of strange attracted me ; i swam until the bottom of sea (10 metres) and i saw a door . I came to the surface, for air, and then to the bottom of the sea, and with my enurmous surprise i saw the door opened in a dark hole ; there's no hause , there's no building , only the right door. Air again in the surface and i crossed the door................................no water , no sea-weeds , only green jelly with fish of gum , and a lot of doors (endless). Only a dream. Before sleep i listened TBWTAS. Marco#7. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kenny at xxx.uk Thu Sep 24 23:41:35 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 23:41:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Marco don't even think about it! Message-ID: <199809232247.XAA02518@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> I don't consider myself to be a person who gets easily annoyed but; Marco that is not big, nor clever, and is even more annoying than those lists. So dont! And in memory of Honey. My haiku; PLEASE DO WHAT I SAY, AND GO LOOK IN THE ARCHIVES, NOW. THANKS VERY MUCH. That has got to be a prize winner. I like the idea of these haiku things but am fearful of getting millions and millions of them on the list each day, so is there any chance you at Poetryplace2, could give us the daily highlights in a Match of the Day style, with after haiku analysis from Alan Hanson, Des "GOD" Lynam, and Trevor Brooking (sorry that is undoubtably lost on you nonUK listees-smug grin :) ). Jake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From heinitz at xxx.net Tue Sep 22 19:52:24 1998 From: heinitz at xxx.net (Heinitz) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 98 18:52:24 GMT Subject: Sinister: small beer Message-ID: <980922185224.n0001421.heinitz@mail.clara.net> sorry about posting my list of bands AFTER honey's message... i'm only a wee digest person with no internet access, and i sent the mail before i got the one containing the message that i shouldn't. or i wouldn't have, of course. and now i feel bad about sending this apology, cos it really contains nothing to interest all you interesting people, does it? i'm never going to get the hang of this... abi, who's feeling melancholy today +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Thu Sep 24 00:13:28 1998 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 18:13:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: music (late entry) In-Reply-To: <36045E44.AB714CD6@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Message-ID: Starting from childhood, to the present, many left out: The Beatles, Beethoven, Peter Gabriel, Pink Floyd, Midnight Oil, Joy Division/New Order, Depeche Mode, Killing Joke, Prefab Sprout, The Cure, Throbbing Gristle / Psychic TV / Coil / Chris & Cosey, Cabaret Voltaire, Foetus, Yello, Gustav Mahler, the decidedly unprolific It's Immaterial and The Blue Nile, A.R.Kane, Underground Resistance / Jeff Mills, Merzbow, The Hafler Trio (and John Duncan et al), The God Machine / Sophia, Photek, Belle & Sebastian, Miles Davis, Nick Drake. I have rather diverse tastes. --Mark __ October 19th: SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dubet at xxx.edu Thu Sep 24 00:23:01 1998 From: dubet at xxx.edu (The Dude, a.k.a. Timmy D.) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:23:01 -0400 Subject: Sinister: something wholesome in the air Message-ID: <360982D5.6AF7FFEE@mail4.bc.edu> Hola to all of yiz on this here perdy list...enough cowboy, enough. Have any of you musicians out there noticed our esteemed B&S's incredible appetite for the F#, B, and C# chords? I have, and i thought i'd just throw that i find them to be lovely chords indeed. Down with G! Up with B! Fellow chordists of the world, unite! randomly roaming, timmy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tangent at xxx.net Wed Sep 23 19:06:46 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:06:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: love hearts References: <01bde705$638427e0$046b9ac2@g5-200-1> Message-ID: <360938B6.163720E8@lineone.net> my mate kate (not adrian's kate, oh no...) came around today and gave me a packet of sweets. they were love hearts and they were lovely. She was stood at the door of my classroom and all the little smelly children were peering out at at her, and she was listening to a stereo type thang and she bunged an earpiece up to my shell-like and it was, tada! TWATTYBUS!! it was very strange... it was the first time i've actually thought that people who aren't like, sinister folks or people i've known as fans/obessives for the past couple of years are actually listening to B&S. I know it sounds dumb, but it was odd. Longevity; much as i like Arab Strap and Mogwai, i think the idea that they'll be of lasting significance in comparison to B&S is twaddle. Young Team was a good record but hardly made great progress from the stuff on the compilation, i forget it's name. They are, i feel, a band that many people name check, and say they love, but whose records these people will rarely actually play. i should know, i've been kind of guilty. Ditto Arab Strap, although maybe not in the 'i don't play their records' sense because i do, but i rarely play the second Lp because i don't think that, in hindsight, it's up to much. long term watchers will know that goes against my initial repsonses, but hey. It might be strange to say it, but i think Arab Strap might work best as a singles band... B&S on the other hand have so many facets, are so magical, have the all important It factor, and although i still kind of feel a lurking suspicion that they'll split up within a year, i'm sure that's not the case and they will be making records for millions of fans for many years to come. Not that i'll hear them of course because i'll have found (several) someone(s) new by then. No horrid gossip on the boy with the honey pot because, frankly, he's just too darn lovely. Trousers announces another competition! hurrah! it's a shame i'm shite with pomes. i just asked the duchess, who teaches english in our school, what her department is doing for national poetry day and her response? 'When's that then?' No wonder the educational standard of our young 'uns is so poor. missing Tim's not inconsiderable presence already, the duke -- 'all of our dreams are dying of overdoses' Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From noelani30 at xxx.com Thu Sep 24 04:59:30 1998 From: noelani30 at xxx.com (Jessica Noelani Wright) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:59:30 PDT Subject: Sinister: sanatras Message-ID: <19980924035931.20819.qmail@hotmail.com> anastasia and anyone else.... the trash can sinatras did make an album after "I've Seen Everything". it is called "A Happy Pocket". it's of course a beautiful album. a little different from the first two. the last three songs on it are the best. you can buy it in the states as an import. i know cdnow.com has it if you want to try there. i'd definitely recommend it. -jess ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From plaird at xxx.uk Thu Sep 24 01:45:53 1998 From: plaird at xxx.uk (Paul Laird) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 98 01:45:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Still here Message-ID: <199809240045.BAA19363@cadmus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk> Padraic Doorey on 23/9 >i've been a tad quiet over the past few weeks so i hope a few of you >at least can still remember who i may be... Make that many months for me. Hell, those who remember me should be due their Sinister long service medals by now. > And where've all the old people gone? You know who you are! If no one >shows the newbies what to do, then the list can't help but go a bit crappy. >Which no one wants. Do I count as one of the oldies? I'm well aware I was probably scrambling at the foot of HoneyPaul's list of most prolific posters. I must admit I've been a bit quiet for the last few months and have had periods where I've not kept up with the mail like I should. So stupid me has had to occasionaly download hundreds and hundreds of mails and be swept away by the ever-growing flood. luvlee, luvlee Katrina tormented us: >Now, we don't want to get people all excited, but we have recently heard >a fairly strong rumour that "Tigermilk" will be rereleased sometime next >autumn. NEXT Autumn? A year's a bit much isn't it? - I don't think I could possibly stay excited at that prospect for more than say, a couple of weeks. Will we be able to resist the wares offered by those evil bootleg pushers (now with another whole year of crooked opportunity) ? I think it'll take a lot of willpower for many of us. Birjinder (were you getting a freebie?) said: >I just wanted to publicly thank Katrina for getting in touch with >Matador on my behalf...A few minutes ago, I received a call from them >informing me that they'll be sending the LP today via UPS. I also like to thank Katrina for attempting to get an advance copy of the album sent to me for use at THE EGG in Edinburgh (sly advert). Beatwax never sent one despite your personal request and since they're working for Jeepster in a way, by distributing advance copies to influential types, I'd have a wee word with them. Never mind - Top Bloke and flowerbed expert Keith Watson gave me his one to play to the dancing masses - many, many thanks Keith. T(W)ATTY BYE, The Lairdster. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bcw4977 at xxx.edu Thu Sep 24 05:57:20 1998 From: bcw4977 at xxx.edu (brian) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 00:57:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: new york picnic photos online... Message-ID: hey hey my dears, i found some time in my busy social calendar to scan two piccies of the picnic and put them up on my web page. the addy is: http://pages.nyu.edu/~bcw4977/picnic i know, it's unwieldy. but you'll live. in the foreground of the first picture is lauren, michele/simone, laurel, and megan/minka. i never learned the names of the people facing away from the camera, although i think one of them was swedish. or german. and her bike got smashed in the chinese yoyo violence incident. the 2nd picture is a group shot taken towards the end of the day when a lot of people had gone home but you get the idea. notice a PEDALPUSHER WEARER. *gasp* well enjoy them folks. i'll put up more as i get the chance. if anyone who attended has pics i'll put them up too. just email them to me. yawn off to bed, brian bcw4977 at is2.nyu.edu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Thu Sep 24 03:50:09 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:50:09 -0400 Subject: Sinister: NY shows, Ohio listees, and more! References: <36092BA4.44CAC38E@is6.nyu.edu> Message-ID: <3609B361.EC237A8F@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> clint stauffer wrote: > Just saw that the second NY show has sold out and that the following > opening acts will be joining B&S: Nov 1, Containe; Nov 2, Guv'ner. Don't know about Guv'ner (an ex-girlfriend was always telling me I should listen to them) but I like the Containe songs I've heard. One of them, in true B&S form, is called "Shy Song," and the lyrics include the following: "If you let me, I will show you a good time I want to come over every day and every night I want to fuck you like you've never been before So come on over every day and every night I'm shy too ooo-oo-oooh I'm shy too..." Now for those of you already imagining the song, I must point out that the song itself is quite soft and poppy, with a nice little organ bit, too, not terribly unlike B&S. Nearly even twee, but of course with all the mentions of carnal activities. Anyway, I'm sure all you hipsters are rolling your eyes and thinking "I knew this already!" but don't forget that the whole list isn't hipsters... Well, it just struck me as somehow an appropriate band to open up (so to speak) for B&S. In other news, am I the only Ohioan on this list? I thought maybe with the influx of people there were some other ones. Dare I hope for another Ohio University student? My flatmate (yes, FLATMATE, Brian & Matt ;) swears that he heard someone singing "Stars of Track and Field" as he was walking to class. Now I have to keep my ears keenly open in case such a thing happens. Oh, and I don't want to predict anything, but I was driving with my other FLATMATE and listening to Tigermilk, when she remarked upon the fact that she had a newfound respect for my music tastes since we began living in a flat together. Coincidence? I think not. The girl's a huge Smiths fan, she has no chance. So I'm hoping to report one for Our Side... > On a side note, at Other Music on East 4th St., the new album is #1 on > the list of their top twenty best sellers with Sinister still hanging > around at #13 Yes, and did you notice the B&S setlist tacked up on the wall, too? So, now I want to know who's opening up the DC show. It's a shame that Pam Berry isn't around the city anymore =( Come on, I want to know who's opening up for the shows I hope to go to! The Boy Who Fell over a Bike, /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at oak.cats.ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - http://indiepop.com/sandcastle/ | | | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From noelani30 at xxx.com Thu Sep 24 04:10:43 1998 From: noelani30 at xxx.com (Jessica Noelani Wright) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:10:43 PDT Subject: Sinister: deja summer Message-ID: <19980924031043.27233.qmail@hotmail.com> anastasia and others who want to know: Trash Can Sinatras made another album after "I've Seen Everything". It's called "Happy Pocket". It's a GREAT album. You can get it in the states import-price. I love it. You should get it. -jess> ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From leggattn at xxx.edu Thu Sep 24 07:23:29 1998 From: leggattn at xxx.edu (N Leggatt) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:23:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: saint etienne Message-ID: i have been told that if you like belle & sebastian you may like this band "saint etienne." haven't heard them but... if anyone who has heard them both would like to say something to verify or attack that suggestion, i'd be happy to hear it. it doesn't even have to be in a witty or eloquent manner. N __ "Go! you may call it madness, folly You shall not chase my gloom away! There's such a charm in melancholy I would not if I could be gay." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amarnold at xxx.edu Thu Sep 24 02:46:23 1998 From: amarnold at xxx.edu (Alex Arnold) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:46:23 -0500 Subject: Sinister: deja summer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980923204623.009159e0@students.wisc.edu> At 12:46 PM 9/23/98 EDT, you wrote: > >hullo, > >julie and everyone else...i *do* agree about the trash can sinatras >connection to 'a summer wasting.' though i can't place exactly which song >it sounds like. speaking of the sinatras, what happened to them? i know >they made another record after 'i've seen everything' and it flopped, no? > >cheers, stasia The Trashies are still around and I think are working on a new album. They put out "A Happy Pocket" after ISE. Dunno if it flopped. All I know is that it wasn't released in the US and I had a damn hard time finding it, but it's sure worth the effort. It's quite good. As far as "A Summer Wasting" is concerned, I think it sounds a *tiny* bit like "Hello I'm Harry" by TCS. Ta Ta, Alex +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Huw.Jenkins at xxx.uk Thu Sep 24 08:36:52 1998 From: Huw.Jenkins at xxx.uk (Huw Jenkins) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 08:36:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ways to annoy a B&S fan like me, Message-ID: <61D51AF2F749D11196EA00805F387D44060FAD@RMF1> Jule Smith wrote: >P.S. My roommate loves to annoy me by referring to Belle & Sebastian as >Mckormick & Geoff. Sigh. My housemates like to annoy me by calling Belle & Sebastian Susan & Katie. The thing is that it does annoy me and I show it which motivates them to take the piss even more, I guess I just can't win. P.S. Sorry if there's loads of garbage below, it's my mail server, it's not my fault. Huw -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2115 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ian.campbell6 at xxx.net Wed Sep 23 20:20:54 1998 From: ian.campbell6 at xxx.net (IAN CAMPBELL) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:20:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: ACHTUNG! Matthew Wimbury, but others also... Message-ID: <008b01bde727$49d860a0$1d43a8c2@o9x8x1> Regarding mr. wimbury I have a copy of snow patrolÂ’s album, which I would be happy to tape, if you Â’d send me the tape. Also IÂ’m intending to buy curtains by the tindersticks very soon. So if you want to mail me privately, summat could be arranged. IÂ’ m not sure what you could repay me with, obviously a copy of Tigermilk is my grail, but weÂ’re not supposed to mention that, are we? Anyway, if anyone can assist you know what I mean, nudge nudge, wink wink. Has anyone else an opinion on snow patrol? They played the point in oxford, a week or so gone, with magoo, and they were enthralling. The singer was marginally scary. But this prompted me to buy the album, and whilst buying it in the only independent store in the WHOLE OF ALL OXFORD, I realised I was stood right next to Thom Yorke, and another radiohead bloke. IÂ’m not a huge radiohead fan, but it was still weird. I couldnÂ’t bring myself to say anything though, (the people in that shop probably think IÂ’m weird anyway, I spend so much time in there.), so IÂ’ve been mentally kicking myself for the last week. Anyway this is my first posting, though IÂ’ve been aÂ’ spyinÂ’ on yous for a while now, and you all seem thoroughly nice and reading your letters is lovely, because I didnÂ’t know anybody who really liked B&S before. I wish I could go to a gig, or something, but I donÂ’t think oxford is really a place where bands think of coming, though B&S played the zodiac last year and I MISSED IT. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. I donÂ’t know how much longer IÂ’ll be on the list, as weÂ’re a bit poor at the moment and sinister seems not to be my papaÂ’s priority. IÂ’ve inherited a cardigan from a friend of the family and am wearing it due to no clean clothes, but it smells of cat food, and I am ashamed to leave the house. My infallible logic says if B&S can sell out a venue in oxford, there must be fans in the area. My knowledge of B&S fans says there is a chance some might be on the list. If so IÂ’d like to hear from you. IÂ’m getting bored of oxford on my own, and knowing hardly anyone (despite having lived in the area all my life) This has gone on too long, and must be a bit dull to read, so au revoir ma petit poubles (GCSE French gets you a long way, you know), Yours severely, TrailerVille (Strangely, a pseudonym) Ooh. P.S. for the oxfordites, did anyone see, or was anyone the busker in the covered market doing ‘get me away from here IÂ’m dyingÂ’? P.P.S, is my address ontop of this? i t ' s . . . ian.campbell6 at virgin.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Sep 24 09:44:27 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:44:27 +0200 Subject: Sinister: No Tim, No Comment, No Content Message-ID: <01bde797$8ad2f140$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Stop the clocks, put away the list, muffle the funky drummer, solemnest of industries enacted upon earth, he has gone. We shall never see his like again, until eternity. Tim, I don't know if I can go on without you, old chum. You see, I've grown accustomed to your face. Leering out at me like a bloated drunken turnip. I think I've fallen in love with you, but like a damn fool I never had the courage to let you know my true feelings. And now it's too late. Back to business: oooh arrr! oooh arrr! I be Sidmouth Isaac Hayes an I bin shaggin wenches in the orrrrrrrchard! All right, all right! I know it's not very funny, but my brain is in a bit of a tizzy. I've been watching "Heavenly Creatures" - Kate Winslett in school uniform! PHWOOOOOARRRR! PHWOOOOAARRRR! PHWOOOOOOOAAAAARRRRR! Actually I doubt even Sidmouth Isaac Hayes would find it appealing, but I thought it might be a good way of recommending newcomers to look up "Kate Winslett" (if that's how you spell it) on the archive search engine, just so you can see the kind of peurile and childish nonsense that sometimes takes the list up a notch or two. Look up "Sophie Dahl" while you're at it. Incidentally, the other girl in the film, Pauline, reminds me of our very own Fluffy Little Sarah. I should point out that it hasn't finished yet, and I've stopped watching it, so I don't know what happens. It looked to me like we were heading for some hot girl on girl action though. But that's not why it reminded me of Sarah. Of course. Trousers, "Strawberry and Chocolate" is a French film from Cuba, I thought you would know, what with you being a right bleeding ponce and all, but obviously not. Thereby causing my one and only ever cultured joke to fall on the proverbial stony. Go and get it out on video immediately, you could show it at the next Blue Soda Social. It's very nice, honest. I totally dig Cuba. Oh, and well done on another fiendishly difficult competition. I'm going to win as usual, everybody. B&S content. I have been overwhelmed by the number of listees who have written to me privately to ask if I'll go out with them, I mean to ask if I've really seen "The Acid House". The answer is yes, it was included in the "open section" of the San Sebastian film festival, which means it doesn't compete for the big prizes, but it is included in the youth prize, which means a load of jammy kids get to see films for free and give them marks out of ten. Our favourite film (because B&S are on the soundtrack, so it must be) is about third from last with three days to go. Quite a few people walked out, despite having queued up for ages. All of which is quite nice. I enjoyed it very much, and I'm sure you all will too. The song credits read "words and music by Belle and Sebastian" as opposed to "Stuart Murdoch" or anything like that. I don't want to spoil the fun, so I'm trying not to give anything away, but it's difficult. It was the most fun I've had in a cinema in ages, in fact, and I usually get up to all kinds of rumpy pumpy in cinemas, especially when I go on my own. Have I bored you all to sleep yet? No? This should do the trick - more about Paul: Paul's enormous telescope is so big that he can clearly make out individual pockmarks on Mrs Matlockbath-Cablecar's cellulite encrusted thighs. It was inside one such pockmark that Paul spotted a curious little man one evening, strumming a Fender Jazz and humming like a girl... And so on and so on. I'm even getting on my own nerves tonight. I don't know if I'll survive Tim's departure. Me Tim's left me, sleeping in me Jag, on pills for me nerves...... Bobby Chariot +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JohnJ at xxx.com Thu Sep 24 09:41:26 1998 From: JohnJ at xxx.com (John Johnston) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 09:41:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: TwattyOK Message-ID: Mark - if you ever lend your copy of Sinister out again and need one to listen to you can always borrow mine. I'm bound to be listening to TWATTYBUS. Any talk that it's not up to scratch is "nonsense on stilts" (to quote Jeremy Bentham who reviewed records for the early Victorian NME when it was the New Musicographical Empire...) and anyone who disagrees clearly isn't me. I know we all want to sing Honey's praises but at least one enterprising soul has done so. I see Mr David McAlmont has released a new single called simply "Honey". I've heard an advance copy and it's a rhapsodic account of the trials and tribulations of UNIX list administration for a man trying to bring up two Newts on an astronomers salary. Tear jerking stuff. And when I say "bring up" I don't mean regurgitate, thank you. I'm off to sharpen my Haiku skills. Congrats to Trousers on a top-hole idea for a competition. I keep comming across Haiku in the oddest places. When working in Portsmouth i found a little book telling the story of a year in the town in Haiku form. Then in Japan I saw a copy of a book called "Tales of the Eccentric Haiku Poets" which looked like a storming read. Apparently in Edo period Japan it easily outsold a rival publication "Lives of the Very Normal Haiku Poets" - such is life. And then there was a chap who used to send my parents Haiku each Christmas. He was a lawyer from Regina, Saskatchewan. Mail me privately if you can finish a limerick with that as a first line. Sorry I've got to miss Rory's picnic - will somebody who doesn't know anyone please go in my stead. xx John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Thu Sep 24 11:30:47 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:30:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Still here References: <199809240045.BAA19363@cadmus.hosts.netdirect.net.uk> Message-ID: <360A1F57.3096D5C8@jeepster.co.uk> oops ... Paul the egg Laird wrote: > luvlee, luvlee Katrina tormented us: > >Now, we don't want to get people all excited, but we have recently heard > >a fairly strong rumour that "Tigermilk" will be rereleased sometime next > >autumn. > > NEXT Autumn? A year's a bit much isn't it? - I don't think I could > possibly stay excited at that prospect for more than say, a couple of > weeks. Will we be able to resist the wares offered by those evil bootleg > pushers (now with another whole year of crooked opportunity) ? I think > it'll take a lot of willpower for many of us. oh bugger ... i think i went a bit australian when i wrote that mail and it has only now made sense. sorry. i meant spring. next spring. spring 1999. hopefully ... cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bluepoets at xxx.com Thu Sep 24 12:07:47 1998 From: Bluepoets at xxx.com (Bluepoets at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 07:07:47 EDT Subject: Sinister: saint etienne Message-ID: <8904ddac.360a2803@aol.com> saint etienne musically is nothing like belle and sebastian, but they are ear worthy and put out some honest to goodness tunes. their lead singer is a doll too :) j +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bajsjan at xxx.com Thu Sep 24 09:33:49 1998 From: bajsjan at xxx.com (jan skit) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 01:33:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister:Most annoying band lists. Message-ID: <19980924083349.26312.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com> My fav band: Guided by voices, Teenage fanclub, The frogs, 22-pistepirkko, Beastie Boys, Air, B&S(of course), Motorpsycho, Neutral milk hotel, Olivia tremor control, Sebadoh. Yea, thats some of it, im not gonna piss you off by posting all the band i enjoy listening to. Bye. Jan. "Labour day, big crowd, market square, feelin down, just want to say what i'm really thinking i dont like your music and i hate your style somebody said -sorry man, but you are talking to a blue Gary Moore...Balloon" _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From noelani30 at xxx.com Thu Sep 24 13:20:27 1998 From: noelani30 at xxx.com (Jessica Noelani Wright) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 05:20:27 PDT Subject: Sinister: oops Message-ID: <19980924122027.24636.qmail@hotmail.com> sorry for all the repeat messages, kids. -jess ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sandrad at xxx.com Thu Sep 24 13:31:10 1998 From: sandrad at xxx.com (Sandra Duric) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 08:31:10 -0400 Subject: Sinister: hefner, b+s connection Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980924083110.0091eca0@mail.accu-staff.com> good morning, well, i'm sure you all know all about the great mr. doogan who produced the B+S album and mojave3's latest album, but i was surprised about the hefner connection (too pure band); listening to its "home on the range" guitar + jonathan richman style vocals, i had to wonder how we go from beauty to something this raw - sort of reminded me of cows crying to a painful death at times, or better yet, a bunch of drunken blokes singing off key in the dead silence of the night outside your bedroom window... also, if it's not already a known fact, Stuart M had a hand in the third track of hefner's "Breaking God's Heart" and the liner said something about thank you to B+S for the drum samples - does anyone know what Stuart actually did? and what drum samples they are talking about? and does anyone know what other albums doogan has produced or worked on (is there a web site for this sort of info?) kindly thanking you in advance sandra =super excited about Toronto show, semi-disappointed that it is now all ages (yes, it does make a difference...), but all's fair in love and music +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dubet at xxx.edu Thu Sep 24 13:32:46 1998 From: dubet at xxx.edu (The Dude, a.k.a. Timmy D.) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 08:32:46 -0400 Subject: Sinister: sinister: saint etienne Message-ID: <360A3BEE.2E95E8FC@mail4.bc.edu> Saint Etienne are a lovely french group. for some reason, all of the music is in english, but that's besides the point. They recently released a new album, whose title i do not know (i lack the cash to purchase it at this time...) but their previous album, "fox base alpha," is a mighty good time had by all. I recommend it. just thought somebody might care, tim +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tim.groves at xxx.uk Thu Sep 24 13:45:00 1998 From: tim.groves at xxx.uk (Tim Groves) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:45:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: sinister: saint etienne- correction Message-ID: ---------------------- Forwarded by Tim Groves/Interfocus on 24/09/98 13:50 --------------------------- Tim Groves 24/09/98 13:44 To: dubet at kea.bc.edu @ FABRIK CONNECT cc: Subject: Re: Sinister: sinister: saint etienne- correction St Etienne is a french name (after the football team famous in the 70's) BUT they are certainly not French - they are English and although they are twee pop I think they are not worthy to lick Stuarts boots - sometimes I worry about the musical taste of this list tim dubet at kea.bc.edu on 24/09/98 13:32:00 To: sinister at majordomo.net cc: (bcc: Tim Groves/Interfocus) Subject: Sinister: sinister: saint etienne Date: Thu, Sep 24, 1998 1:32 PM Subject: Sinister: sinister: saint etienne Saint Etienne are a lovely french group. for some reason, all of the music is in english, but that's besides the point. They recently released a new album, whose title i do not know (i lack the cash to purchase it at this time...) but their previous album, "fox base alpha," is a mighty good time had by all. I recommend it. just thought somebody might care, tim +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------- Received: from sloth.ph.ED.AC.uk by polson.fabrik.com with SMTP (Fabrik F07.3-000) id SINN.3865052 at polson.fabrik.com ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:38:05 +0100 Received: from localhost (daemon at localhost) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA00286; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:34:16 +0100 Received: by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:34:13 +0100 Received: (from majordomo at localhost) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00242 for sinister-outgoing; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:34:11 +0100 Received: from corot.bc.edu (corot.bc.edu [136.167.2.209]) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA00221 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:34:08 +0100 Received: from mail4.bc.edu (x1-6-00-40-05-68-d9-ca.bc.edu [136.167.230.28]) by corot.bc.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA181130 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 08:33:28 -0400 Message-ID: <360A3BEE.2E95E8FC at mail4.bc.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 08:32:46 -0400 From: "The Dude, a.k.a. Timmy D." X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en]C-NECCK (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sinister at majordomo.net Subject: Sinister: sinister: saint etienne Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: "The Dude, a.k.a. Timmy D." X-List: Sinister ---------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tim.groves at xxx.uk Thu Sep 24 09:53:00 1998 From: tim.groves at xxx.uk (Tim Groves) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 09:53:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: something wholesome in the air Message-ID: I think ......he choses akward nasty bar chrords to suit his voice ,which although beautiful has limited range. He plays with a capo all the time, which is cheating - when playing their stuff I normally transpose up or down a semi tone has anyone bothered to work out the chords to the BWTAS yet? tim +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Thu Sep 24 08:37:39 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe GARNIER) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:07:39 +0730 Subject: Sinister: saint etienne Message-ID: The Duke wrote : >Saint Etienne are a lovely french group. for some reason, all of the >music is in english, but that's besides the point. The french bands who choose english only do that because they want The Duke to understand everything they sing. And The Duke understands everything. The british bands who choose a french name (let's say... belle & sebastian) only do that because they want the french audience to love them. And we love them ! Philippe, the boy with a french name +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Thu Sep 24 14:08:53 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 09:08:53 EDT Subject: Sinister: Stars of list and (picnic) field Message-ID: <80d317ae.360a4465@aol.com> God, we're beautiful people! I've just had a trawl through the world of B&S on the web, and I ended up on honey's people page. And, my dears, you're as fascinating in your photos as you are in your mails. I'd be lying if I didn't say that http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/people/Keithpissed.jpg was by far and away the funniest thing I've seen for weeks, along with http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/people/Hairchris.jpg, though http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/people/Duke.jpg rates very highly as well. Go have a look, see who you're dealing with. It's funny, but when I first joined the list, I imagined what I thought people would look like, and despite honey's photos those first impressions are still with me today, ooh, eleven-odd months later. So here we are: Genevieve- has fairy wings, which she uses to fly down to the record shop, and hover outside record shop boy's window, singing fragile love songs Mick Cooke- (not strictly a list member) will always look like that yokel geo- physicist with sideburns, from Time Team. I don't know why.He just does. Brad- is Mother from the (original) avengers. again, dunno why. Chris Leonard looks like Mr Spock most of the time, but occasionally like a large citrus fruit-orange, lime, or lemon, depending on the season, and my mood. Mphintz is my old violin teacher! My poor fingers ache with memory of arpeggios when I read your (lovely) mails, Matthew. Anyway, I hope I haven't offended anyone, I just thought it fair that I let you know these things. It's really hard to imagine people all over the world loving Belle and Sebastian. I used to think you were all from Carshulton Beeches or Epsom, and just pretended to be american etc. But then I found a picture of some beautiful people, looking recognisably picnicesque. They looked like they could have been going to the Botanical Gardens, or Primrose Hill, but there, in the background, is a map of New York, and a subway sign. Wow! I think the point I'm struggling to make is 'Support your local picnic!' We're joined together by something extremely powerful and unexpected- as I was saying to a very nice listee who's recently helped me enormously, I've never met a B&S fan I haven't liked, and I've never met a B&S fan who hasn't made me feel very welcome. I guarantee that you will meet people there whom you'll wonder how you managed without. We may be saddo bedroom obsessives, but there's no reason why we can't obsess together... see you at the picnic? seb (incidentally it's only fair that I tell you all that I'm very visible in the Greenwich picture on the look what I did at school today mummy page. Look for the hair. I'm underneath it.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tridophelom at xxx.com Thu Sep 24 14:18:11 1998 From: tridophelom at xxx.com (will grey) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 06:18:11 PDT Subject: Sinister: saint etienne Message-ID: <19980924131812.15984.qmail@hotmail.com> >i have been told that if you like belle & sebastian you may like this band >"saint etienne." haven't heard them but... if anyone who has heard them >both would like to say something to verify or attack that suggestion, i'd >be happy to hear it. it doesn't even have to be in a witty or eloquent >manner. my unwitty, uneloquent 2 cents: st. etienne are quite pleasant synth-pop type stuff... very sophisticated in a sugary sort of way... in my opinion, they have little to do with belle and sebastian, but when i first heard them, i thought they sounded like a synthier (see what i mean with the "uneloquent" --- which, come to think of it, is an even less eloquent construction) version of prefab sprout. i have been surprised not to hear any references to prefab sprout in these parts. in my opinion they are the greatest pop band of all time and not entirely unlike belle and sebastian... please berate me if you feel the need... by the way... does anyone know what supper club's policy is regarding photo-taking? i just got a nifty old zoom lens and would feel sad if a) i didn't use it to take photos at the show or b) got kicked out of the show for using it. anyone know much about old zoom lenses? when i use my camera's light meter, i get very overexposed pictures with it... easily corrected, but distressing nonetheless... ok, i'm done... everyone have a pleasant thursday.... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Thu Sep 24 14:21:52 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:21:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Saint Etienne Message-ID: <01BDE7C6.ACF59B40@keith@qss.co.uk> Saint Etienne are a football team who became a band after being bought over by a media empire. The band consists of 3 Mexicans, 2 Eskimos and a couple of dancing chickens, they produce a kind of fusion between melancholy pop music, jazz, and Italia House '90. Their last album was called "Back in Black" produced bravely after suffering the tragic loss of their drummer Lord Lucan, it's a great listen and includes the hits "Grandma we love you" and a cover version of Clive Dunn's "Grandad" Cheers, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Thu Sep 24 14:55:17 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:55:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: St Etienne Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7B46@COR-EXG1> Keith wrote : >Saint Etienne are a football team who became a band after being bought over >by a media empire. The band consists of 3 Mexicans, 2 Eskimos and a couple >of dancing chickens, they produce a kind of fusion between melancholy pop >music, jazz, and Italia House '90. Their last album was called "Back in >Black" produced bravely after suffering the tragic loss of their drummer >Lord Lucan, it's a great listen and includes the hits "Grandma we love you" >and a cover version of Clive Dunn's "Grandad" Whilst this is almost certainly the most comical explanation of the group we'll get, I can reveal Keith is leading you on a magical mystery tour right up the garden path maybe via a flowerbed depending how bladdered he is. J - Bluepoets wrote : >saint etienne musically is nothing like belle and sebastian, but they are ear >worthy and put out some honest to goodness tunes. their lead singer is a doll Indeed she is, and the bass player is a teddy bear with one eye and the drummer a tin soldier and there next single is called *Making Love in Legoland* and it's fucking crap. Flyaway Peter wrote : >Back to business: oooh arrr! oooh arrr! I be Sidmouth Isaac Hayes an I bin >shaggin wenches in the orrrrrrrchard! >All right, all right! I know it's not very funny Oh oi don't know me booooty, at least oi can understand what you'm writin'. This is going nowhere as usual. Did I ever tell you I love you ? Ta ra playmates Adrian. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lorelei_27 at xxx.com Thu Sep 24 14:57:05 1998 From: lorelei_27 at xxx.com (lorelei tremelor) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 06:57:05 PDT Subject: Sinister: deja summer Message-ID: <19980924135705.425.qmail@hotmail.com> maybe i'm crazy, but if belle and sebastian were around >during the good old shoegazer days of 1991 and rocked out a bit more, >wouldn't the band then be reminiscent of the saints? call me crazy... > hmm... i don't know about that- perhaps stuart's vocals remind you of ian masters'. they do both have that thick-in-the-throat sound. same goes for he out of blueboy, whose name escapes me. and ed ka-spel (legendary pink dots) pale saints were far too drenched in reverb and cascading drums to be like b&s. lorraine p.s. how did "only tongue can tell" go? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NeilD at xxx.uk Thu Sep 24 15:06:36 1998 From: NeilD at xxx.uk (Neil Dewhurst) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:06:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The truth about St.Etienne Message-ID: <704AE307AB53D2119EE300805F7DF755E2B7@NCMSERVER> St.Etienne are not, as has been reported on this list, a band or a football team. The real St.Etienne was an Andalucian monk from South Manchester who was belatedly cannonised when it was discovered that he had built the first animal shelter - which later became known as Fox Base Alpha. His real name was Charlie. A co-worker of mine mistakenly - through stupidity rather than abstrusity - referred to B&S as Sebastian & Geoff, which defies all logical explanation, although it would make an interesting name for a tribute band. Speaking of which, does anyone know of any B&S tribute bands in existence? Did anyone see the marvellously pretending to be pissed Arab Strap on the Jo Wiley show? That guy could kill a karaoke competition with one verse. Love and more love. Neil +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From padraic_fresheire at xxx.com Thu Sep 24 15:38:01 1998 From: padraic_fresheire at xxx.com (padraic doorey) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 07:38:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: a strapping young arab AKA a drunken groom on jo wiley Message-ID: <19980924143801.16968.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com> "hello" he said sheepishly.... Yes! I saw arab strap on the jo wiley show�..only coz I had consumed a tad too much bubbly and chose to crash in front of the teevee after ally mcbeal. Can I please rant on a little about miss wiley? She annoys the poo out of my freshly irrigated colon. She is an arrogant sow who knows surprisingly little about music considering she hosts a show dedicated to "what's going on in the scene" (her words not mine) and persists in sitting atop some glowing pedestal thinking that we, the true lovers of new music, actually give a toss what her opinion may be and which second rate celebrity she has on her panel to agree or intellectualise about whatever meagre points she wishes to throw open to the floor. A painful example of this last fact is the show she did with ian brown of the stone roses, chrissie hynde and tricky (I think) - they were talking all about how manchester "changed the vibe man". What utter bjollox! I am quite thankful that I saw the show last night actually. I had forgotten how bad it is. I have to admit thought that placebo rocked my ankles a little. i quite fancied that bassist. Lady Penelope (sans tiara) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Thu Sep 24 15:38:34 1998 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 07:38:34 PDT Subject: Sinister: I'll show you claws Message-ID: <19980924143834.24652.qmail@hotmail.com> >because it's a feeble way in which to claw out some desperate scintilla of >individuality in this zombifying mass-culture world. or maybe not. > That's pretty funny considering that pretty much all of you listed the exact same bands. I swear, if anyone pulls that stunt again (i.e. asking questions that you know that every single dork on the list will answer, the same way- yourstruly as well in case you were wondering) I'll hook my car battery up to my computer and electrocute them. I had to unsubscribe.... it was that bad.... go to digest. I couldn't take it. I mean, I really hate deleting everyone's messages en masse but I couldn't take another waiting three minutes just to see "oh, Smiths... Pulp..... Radiohead.... Jesus and Mary Chain..... Elliott Smith...." (oh! and no black people, ha ha, except for the alphabetizing trainspotter I saw toss in Albert Ayler, as if) I mean, really. The best instore music experience was once when Tower was pushing the Spiritualized album and left this disastrous 10-minute fuzz-storm playing, it was funny just to see people's heads turn up to the speakers like those flowers caught in stop-action on nature shows. Going into class every day of third grade made me sigh.... I just sat in the back of the class and copied maps out of atlases all day. By the way, that was a bitchslapworthy question too but since it demands a modicum of creativity to answer (i.e. who the fuck remembers what made them sigh back then? Cry, maybe, but sigh? I think really young people only sigh when they're bored, and I think, really, that Belle and Sebastian would make a young boy sigh). Without misgiving, I paid upwards of fifty bucks to see Isaac Hayes play in Israel... I guess it was worth it as my brother and I were televised, live, running down to the front and dancing when "shaft" was played. Everyone else there was an uptight Israeli rock star or my uncle. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Fri Sep 25 15:25:47 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:25:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Sorry Marco Message-ID: <199809241447.PAA02780@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Can I just make a humble apology in front of the whole list. I didn't realise that it was a dream commentary. All I got in my mail was a blank message. Nothing. Zero. Zilch. Not even those messagey bits at the bottom. That's why I responded in the way I did. Anyone else who wants to moan did it privately. I thank you. Sorry. Jake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ultaltwavr at xxx.com Thu Sep 24 15:46:28 1998 From: Ultaltwavr at xxx.com (Ultaltwavr at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:46:28 EDT Subject: Sinister: Happy Pockets Message-ID: Hi all, Since a few people are mentioning my other favorite Scottish band, the Trash Can Sinatras, I thought I'd direct further questions to a decent web-site on the band: http://www.gis.net/~jdimaria/tcs/tcshome.html They're really brilliant, and have new music coming out. I find the delicious looping guitar at the beginning of "Seymour Stein" to be most reminiscent ot the Trash Cans. ---> Steve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cchaffin at xxx.org Thu Sep 24 15:58:04 1998 From: cchaffin at xxx.org (Christa Chaffinch) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:58:04 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Belle and sebby tribute band Message-ID: One B&S tribute band I know of is when my boyfriend and I tool around on instruments in our living room trying (very unsuccessfully) to duplicate their beauty sound. We could be called Chris & Dan, or Simon & Boris (after 2 of our beloved pets) Saint Etienne is a nice group of glamorous kids! Their music is best played in a car with the windows down on a lovely day, sun shining- and speeding down a coastal highway. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mjh18 at xxx.uk Thu Sep 24 16:21:03 1998 From: mjh18 at xxx.uk (mjh18 at xxx.uk) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 16:21:03 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Belle and sebby tribute band In-Reply-To: from "Christa Chaffinch" at Sep 24, 98 10:58:04 am Message-ID: <20320.199809241521@owl.le.ac.uk> > > > One B&S tribute band I know of is when my boyfriend and I tool around > on instruments in our living room trying (very unsuccessfully) to > duplicate their beauty sound. One B&S tribute band i thought of would be a Death Metal version: Belle & SATAN. Featuring such hits as: Judy and the Dream of Corpses Me and the Mephistopholes Pocketbook DEVIL The Hearse Ride A Summer Rotting A SpaceBoy DEATH It could have been a grisly cadaver The State I Am In (Rigamortis) and so on and so on... Cheers, Mark +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From james at xxx.com Thu Sep 24 17:53:09 1998 From: james at xxx.com (J Errington) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 17:53:09 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Goodbye... ...for now. Message-ID: Not that you're paying attention any more (see last posting) but this will probably be my last post for a while as I'm going to Uni, and while I'll keep subscribed I'll probably be too busy to contribute. Well, it's been a fun-ish few months, and I suppose I wish you well. I'm sure you'll all be pleased to know I'm too tired to be as depressed as I was when I wrote the last message Yes - depressed i.e. not pissed off. It just read like that. I suppose I'd better answer my critics then: Tag wrote: > Anyone fancy a pint? > Emile Zola Well hardy fuckin' har, tag. Keith Watson wrote: > I guess the entire list owes "Weejay"  Hold on - wait a sec. What are you implying with those inverted commas mr Watson? For your information everyone has called me WeeJay for a couple of years now. It started off when me and my friends went bowling and we all had bowling names - Aaron was Bavarian Monkey, Charlie was Princess Cheila and I was Wildman Jim (I cant remember the others) This turned into WJ and eventually WeeJay. So there. You can carry on now. > I guess the entire list owes "Weejay" an apology for their conservative > tastes. Next time we'll all have to match up to his more exacting > standards, remember kids next time you post a large list of bands, > regardless of whether you like them or not, make sure they're not what > Weejay would be expecting. Bear in mind that all 700 of us really ought to > be making sure we don't disappoint him. Ooh, claws out Keith. All I was saying was that I expected that people who had made the effort to 'discover' B&S would have made the effort to search out other good stuff neglected for its uncommerciality. See? I'm not saying don't post your lists although I have to agree about their tiresomeness, I'm just making a comment about them. Look, I was feeling a bit depressed, you cant begrudge me that. Oh I give up. I hope this is the end of this crap. So this is probably goodbye. Please, people, respond to the e-mails of others at least a bit, and don't be over-obsessed by B&S content. I mean, I hope this can be a place to meet other B&S fans and that gives you a certain class of person you usually search in vein to find to talk to. Anyway, bye. Unashamedly, WeeJay X X X X X X X "Modern capitalism, organising the reduction of all social life to a spectacle, cannot offer any other spectacle than that of our own alienation" james at twopounds.u-net.com (my site kills browsers) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Cabaret/5523/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tangent at xxx.net Thu Sep 24 17:00:54 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 17:00:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: defamation of character References: Message-ID: <360A6CB6.ACFFF5DE@lineone.net> Philippe GARNIER wrote: > > The Duke wrote : > >Saint Etienne are a lovely french group. for some reason, all of the > >music is in english, but that's besides the point. ah, the pain, the pain... Pop mistakes are just NOT the Duke's bag, as you should all know by now. The Duke's greatest pride comes from the way people point at him, saying in hushed tones, 'there's the pretentious twat that think he knows everything about Pop. What a dick. Let's go beat him up.' It goes without saying that the Duke wouldn't even have the sense of humour to make the above statement as a joke, if indeed it was intended as a joke in the first place. Hmm. 'Humourless' is a word often heard bandied around the classroom when the Duke is strutting his stuff. Why only last week he intercepted a note which said 'sir is a grump'. Punishment was two A4 sides of what sir could do to be less of a grump. one suggestion was smiling. HA! St Etienne were in fact a one time marvelous Pop combo who too often were only mediocre, but hey, what the hell. Anyone searching the archives for all our fave list songs will discover that the Duke's fave was/is a St Etienne track that is gorgeously obscure. B&S content? Ah, nope... Ms Baxter, PA to his Dukeness of Harringay -- 'all of our dreams are dying of overdoses' Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From thunderw at xxx.uk Thu Sep 24 19:58:52 1998 From: thunderw at xxx.uk (James) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 19:58:52 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199809241900.UAA05180@sand.global.net.uk> hello list, I'm going to tell you all about the Manics and Mogwai gig in Stoke because...well just because I want to really, but because some of you might be interested as well, and it's all very amusing. So fast-forward if you couldn't care less. I've never seen a performance like it before in my life - anyone who's seen Mogwai live before knows how incredible they can be. But Mogwai playing to a Manics crowd? - nooooo, I thought, this cannot happen - for all their walls of white-noise, they're gentle lads at heart - the eyelinered-ones will tear them limb from limb, (what, no lyrics? but how can they be POLITICAL and DANGEROUS with no lyrics? - burn the witches!). Oh, how wrong I was - never in all my years have I seen hecklers dealt with in such an admirable way! One tune to go - numerous witty ejaculatiuons from the crowd, ("MANICS!", "GERROFF", "BOO!") - Dominic gives them the two fingers for the third time -Stuart takes the mic: "This one's for all you cunts out there who......(it goes incomprehensible here but you get the picture)" Then it's straight into the most blinding version of "Like Herod" you are EVER likely to hear. The quiet bit is drawn out for a simply unbearable amount of time for those in the know, who, like the band, stand grinning from ear to ear, in joyful anticipation of what is about to happen. And then.....BANG - like an electrical storm it kicks in, and the feather boas leap three feet into the air before their collective ears begin to bleed in a most satisfactory manner. I take such enourmous pleasure from seeing the two girls in front of me with their fingers in their ears, that I begin to question my human decency, but then I think sod it, and cackle away gleefully. Call it indie snobbery if you like, but I was there and I know which side the intolerance was coming from. And the irony is that what Mogwai stand for in music now, is exactly what the Manics stood for in 1991. Never have I seen a band treated so rudely, but like I said, never have I seen a crowd chastised so severely for doing so. The Manics were shit by the way. And I speak as a long-time fan, who was deeply saddened at the fact, but felt I got my money's worth anyway, thanks to Mogwai. And who was the boy in the blue Belle and Sebastian T-shirt? Are you on the list? nuff from me love from Molly xxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From escossia at xxx.br Thu Sep 24 20:48:23 1998 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 16:48:23 -0300 Subject: Sinister: Stars of Sinister List Message-ID: <01bde7f4$49cab5e0$d67defc8@default> Seb wrote: >God, we're beautiful people! >I've just had a trawl through the world of B&S on the web, and I ended up >on honey's people page. Are we beautiful cause we ALL love Belle and Sebastian or we love Belle and Sebastian cause we're beautiful ? Miss and Mister SINISTER now. Elisapet.jpg is BEAUTIFUL !! my vote goes to her. Mattneimark.jpg reminds me someone i used to be friend. Oh my God, i don't have a photo of mine there. How someone will fall in love with me ? :o) Ivo A P Escossia " ... I was yours for the asking ,a child afraid. Sent unfettered letters,postage unpaid. In identicle avenues that no-one would miss, the world could not touch us, but we could not kiss ... " (Orlando - Contained) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From phil.houghton at xxx.uk Thu Sep 24 19:03:50 1998 From: phil.houghton at xxx.uk (The Eclectic Electric) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 19:03:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: saint etienne Message-ID: st. etienne are quite pleasant synth-pop type stuff... very sophisticated in a sugary sort of way... in my opinion, they have little to do with belle and sebastian, but when i first heard them, i thought they sounded like a synthier (see what i mean with the "uneloquent" --- which, come to think of it, is an even less eloquent construction) version of prefab sprout. i have been surprised not to hear any references to prefab sprout in these parts. in my opinion they are the greatest pop band of all time and not entirely unlike belle and sebastian... please berate me if you feel the need... I think Prefab Sprout are brilliant, but I don't not think they're not not entirely unlike Belle and Sebastian. -- The Eclectic Electric "U Sexy Motherpopper!!!" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com Thu Sep 24 16:20:06 1998 From: Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com (Anastasia Signoretta) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:20:06 EDT Subject: Sinister: deja summer Message-ID: hullo lorelei and everyone else, yeah, you know...i thought about my pale saints comment after i'd already hit 'send' and realised that i must have too much belle and sebastian on the brain, their influence is creeping into everything i listen to and making me make comparisons that aren't exactly spot-on. it was the singing thing, i tell you. lorraine's comparison to blueboy is much more adept, cheers lor. singing thing again...folkly bits too. and now i leave you as i whimper over the brand-new coffee stain on my baby blue t-shirt... stasia anastasia signoretta atlantic records international media relations 1290 avenue of the americas 24th floor new york, ny 10104 212.707.2619 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 'but how can i see stars if my feet are on the ground?' ride ------------- Original Text >From "lorelei tremelor" , on 9/24/98 9:57 AM: maybe i'm crazy, but if belle and sebastian were around >during the good old shoegazer days of 1991 and rocked out a bit more, >wouldn't the band then be reminiscent of the saints? call me crazy... > hmm... i don't know about that- perhaps stuart's vocals remind you of ian masters'. they do both have that thick-in-the-throat sound. same goes for he out of blueboy, whose name escapes me. and ed ka-spel (legendary pink dots) pale saints were far too drenched in reverb and cascading drums to be like b&s. lorraine p.s. how did "only tongue can tell" go? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com InetReceived: from gatekeeper.wmg.com by corp.wmg.com via 207.142.212.98 with SMTP-TCP; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 9:59:27 EDT InetReceived: from internalif.wmg.com ([207.142.212.97]) by gatekeeper.wmg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA15011 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 09:50:32 -0400 (EDT) InetReceived: from f233.hotmail.com ([207.82.251.124]) by internalif.wmg.com via smtpd (for gatekeeper.wmg.com [207.142.212.98]) with SMTP; 24 Sep 1998 13:57:09 UT InetReceived: (qmail 426 invoked by uid 0); 24 Sep 1998 13:57:05 -0000 InetReceived: from 208.241.84.4 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 06:57:05 PDT +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Thu Sep 24 22:23:34 1998 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 17:23:34 -0400 Subject: Sinister: there's something wrong with my toast Message-ID: Oh, just run out of marmalade. Funny how it makes the bread look different. I'm not sure if all the British listies realise just how un-twee it is to be living in Toronto. It's a nice city and all, but distinctly lacking in Britishness, and hence Belle and Sebastian-related ambience. Having to miss out on all the fun little picnics and pub runs brings a tear to my eye *sniff, sniff*. I've just ordered TBWTAS (aka Twattybus), hopefully it will be arriving in my mailbox in a very short time because I hate waiting, I especially hate waiting for music to arrive because everyone else always seems to be giddy with the excitement of a new release, and then here I am ready to buy the cd but poo, they're all sold out so my only reasonable option is to do a little mail order and wait for 7-14 days for my shipment to arrive, along with Operation: Heavenly and the new Saint Etienne (won't this be a lovely delivery? yes, I do think so). However, I do have one concert ticket under my belt, so I can be quietly joyous with the knowledge that ha! I'm going to see My Most Favourite Band and perhaps others will miss them, of course I'm not wishing this on any of the lovely people on the sinister list, but any snooty obnoxious people who would only go because it's the cool thing to do. Which I don't think is the case in very many circles, but so long as there are no people there speading misery or bad vibes, then share and share alike. It's been unusually cold here lately, I'm wearing a big fuzzy sweater and woolly socks and outside I had mittens on. I don't mind this cool weather, really, in fact I'm quite looking forward to being able to wear my woollen coat and snuggly scarf and big furry russian sort of hat. But it is a little early to have frost and be seeing your breath in the mornings. And it's certainly too early to put away my sandals and cover up my toes. And to top it all off, I seem to have picked up a cold somehow - sore throat, headache, stuffy sinuses. Suffice it to say, I think I'm feeling pretty sinister. bundle up, sinisterines. truly, jessicaxo, a little sad that noone has a mental image of her. "Homer, you've got it set on 'whore'." **************************************************** Someone had spied on us, I suppose, as we sat beside the canal and ate the sandwiches, drinking not even orangeade or Coca-Cola but hot milk out of a thermos. *************************************************** t i n y s t a r @ w o r l d y . c o m +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grabutcho at xxx.com Thu Sep 24 22:11:37 1998 From: grabutcho at xxx.com (Julien Boeldieu) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: a dream (a nightmare ?)... Message-ID: <19980924211137.9241.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com> Hi everyone :) Last night I made a strange, short dream. Maybe someone would be able to explain it to me... or give me some help ! I was working with and for Tony Blair (why him ? I hate him !) at 10 downing street. I was talking to him, and suddenly I saw a book on his desk. It was called "180 unpublished photos of Belle & Sebastian" (true !)... Curious as I am (well, 180 photos of them, it's not so common, you all know that), I couldn't help opening this book. But the content had nothing to do with the tittle. In fact, the book contained everything that Blair should know about the british nuclear bomb and its use... The dream stopped here. I'm so scared... How a french boy can dream of Tony Blair ? How is it possible to put both Blair and Belle & Sebastian in the same dream ? Does Blair love Belle & Sebastian ? Is he on the mailing-list ? Why such a cover for such a book ? What do Belle & Sebastian have to do with nuclear weapons ? British listees, do I need some help ? Am I ill, doctor ? Julien. == "Je ne remets jamais � demain ce que je peux faire le surlendemain" ** Alphonse Allais ** _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sweaters at xxx.net Thu Sep 24 19:32:37 1998 From: sweaters at xxx.net (Butch Sweaters himself) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:32:37 -0400 Subject: Sinister: saint etienne References: Message-ID: <360A9045.6B7DDBE0@dca.net> I love Belle and Sebastian and I love Saint Etienne, so I guess it's true in my case. All of the Et's records are great. Really "cool" sounding. Their latest, "Good Humor", just came out on Sub Pop (which is a weird label for them to be on) in the US (they're on Creation in the UK), and it has an extra CD of b-sides and stuff. Highly recommended by Butch Sweaters himself. N Leggatt wrote: > i have been told that if you like belle & sebastian you may like this band > "saint etienne." haven't heard them but... if anyone who has heard them > both would like to say something to verify or attack that suggestion, i'd > be happy to hear it. it doesn't even have to be in a witty or eloquent > manner. > > N > __ > > "Go! you may call it madness, folly > You shall not chase my gloom away! > There's such a charm in melancholy > I would not if I could be gay." > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jaded10486 at xxx.com Thu Sep 24 22:19:07 1998 From: Jaded10486 at xxx.com (Jaded10486 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 17:19:07 EDT Subject: Sinister: B&S In L.A. Message-ID: <9bc6338c.360ab74b@aol.com> Hello, Are there any B&S people here in the dreadful city of Los Angeles? If so, pleases make yourself known. A lovely day for flying, JC +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com Thu Sep 24 23:23:47 1998 From: Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com (Anastasia Signoretta) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:23:47 EDT Subject: Sinister: ACHTUNG! Matthew Wimbury, but others also... Message-ID: hullo listees, at some in his massive post, ian asked if anyone had an opinion on snow patrol. well, i certainly do. i 'met' the lovely lads last...october was it?...when they played a gig with mogwai here in new york, at brownie's. i didn't actually *see* snow patrol's set...my friend and i were somewhere else, i think...but we started chatting with gary at the bar and he ended up giving up a copy of a demo tape. (mogwai's set, incidentally, was brilliant of course.) my friend and i rushed home to listen to the tape, quite curious as we hadn't seen sp's gig and figuring they were such nice boys *and* on jeepster, they must be all right at least. in the end we were very impressed. they remind one of palace brothers and sebadoh, without being annoyingly low-fi...plus they're northern irishmen living in scotland which is a plus in my book. so ian and anyone who cares, my opinion of snow patrol is a good one. however, i don't think they're releasing anything in the states. i know they were supposed to come back to new york at some point and play again but as far as i know this never happened. i suppose i should be asking katrina about this but if anyone has any info then please do share. the friend who was with me that night, by the way, did get to see them play live when she moved to london and sure enough, true to rumor, jonny did get his, erm, balls out during the gig. well, anyway, snow patrol yah. it's the end of the day and i need to go home... cheers, stasia anastasia signoretta atlantic records international media relations 1290 avenue of the americas 24th floor new york, ny 10104 212.707.2619 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 'but how can i see stars if my feet are on the ground?' ride ------------- Original Text >From "IAN CAMPBELL" , on 9/23/98 3:20 PM: Regarding mr. wimbury I have a copy of snow patrolÆs album, which I would be happy to tape, if you Æd send me the tape. Also IÆm intending to buy curtains by the tindersticks very soon. So if you want to mail me privately, summat could be arranged. IÆ m not sure what you could repay me with, obviously a copy of Tigermilk is my grail, but weÆre not supposed to mention that, are we? Anyway, if anyone can assistà you know what I mean, nudge nudge, wink wink. Has anyone else an opinion on snow patrol? They played the point in oxford, a week or so gone, with magoo, and they were enthralling. The singer was marginally scary. But this prompted me to buy the album, and whilst buying it in the only independent store in the WHOLE OF ALL OXFORD, I realised I was stood right next to Thom Yorke, and another radiohead bloke. IÆm not a huge radiohead fan, but it was still weird. I couldnÆt bring myself to say anything though, (the people in that shop probably think IÆm weird anyway, I spend so much time in there.), so IÆve been mentally kicking myself for the last week. Anyway this is my first posting, though IÆve been aÆ spyinÆ on yous for a while now, and you all seem thoroughly nice and reading your letters is lovely, because I didnÆt know anybody who really liked B&S before. I wish I could go to a gig, or something, but I donÆt think oxford is really a place where bands think of coming, though B&S played the zodiac last year and I MISSED IT. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. I donÆt know how much longer IÆll be on the list, as weÆre a bit poor at the moment and sinister seems not to be my papaÆs priority. IÆve inherited a cardigan from a friend of the family and am wearing it due to no clean clothes, but it smells of cat food, and I am ashamed to leave the house. My infallible logic says if B&S can sell out a venue in oxford, there must be fans in the area. My knowledge of B&S fans says there is a chance some might be on the list. If so IÆd like to hear from you. IÆm getting bored of oxford on my own, and knowing hardly anyone (despite having lived in the area all my life) This has gone on too long, and must be a bit dull to read, so au revoir ma petit poubles (GCSE French gets you a long way, you know), Yours severely, TrailerVille (Strangely, a pseudonym) Ooh. P.S. for the oxfordites, did anyone see, or was anyone the busker in the covered market doing æget me away from here àIÆm dyingÆ? P.P.S, is my address ontop of this? i t ' s . . . ian.campbell6 at virgin.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Thu Sep 24 22:55:38 1998 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 16:55:38 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: saint etienne In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 23 Sep 1998, N Leggatt wrote: > i have been told that if you like belle & sebastian you may like this band > "saint etienne." I've seen Belle and Sebastian mentioned several times on the Saint Etienne list, and very likely the other way around as well. Saint Etienne don't have a strong literary side, but I don't see why a fan of one wouldn't like the other. I once described Saint Etienne's album _So Tough_ as post-modern pre-Beatles pop. Their other records combine retro pop and numerous modern twists in various ways. I'd personally suggest _So Tough_ as an album. Their singles collection, _Too Young to Die_, doesn't have the coherence of their albums (except for the 1st, _Foxbase Alpha_, which is a bit of a hodgepodge). But it does collect a lot of their better songs in their single versions. --Mark __ October 19th: SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MileEndGrl at xxx.com Thu Sep 24 23:08:31 1998 From: MileEndGrl at xxx.com (MileEndGrl at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:08:31 EDT Subject: Sinister: Supper Club rules, B and S article, shows sold out? Message-ID: <3493d97.360ac2df@aol.com> In a message dated 9/24/98 6:28:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, tridophelom at hotmail.com writes: << does anyone know what supper club's policy is regarding photo-taking? >> What makes the supper club the coolest club in NYC (well next to Irving Plaza) is that the one rule I know of is no moshing! I saw Blur there last year and I was so obnoxious up front taking pictures with this mega flash that constantly blinded the bouncer in front of me. They really don't seem to care, Hammerstein on the other hand...WATCH OUT! So this year I have taken the lovely job as editor of the entertainment section in my school's "award winning" newspaper. Needless to say, I have decided to dedicate a huge section to Belle and Sebastion next month. So if anyone has any quotes you would like me to add or just really obscure facts, please send me them. I'll be really nice and snail mail you the section when it is done too. For once this section won't be about hip hop and that awful cartoon on comedy central ( I can't even bring myself to say the name.) Oh, one more quick question is the Toronto or Philadelphia show sold out? I am being so irresponsible and planning my college visits around these concerts so I can go. What is even sadder is that I am selecting colleges based on how close I am to cities that get all concerts I want to go to! Ta! Cass +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Thu Sep 24 23:15:42 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 23:15:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: You smell of poo. YES! YOU!!! Message-ID: Hi you big banana brains! That stewpid stinking tatty old bucket full to the brim of stale pee and quiche scrapings, otherwise known as the delightful serial thriler Mister Miller OR EVEN! the Bobby Chariot stylee largin' it dude wrote this : >Incidentally, the >other girl in the film, Pauline, reminds me of our very own Fluffy Little >Sarah. OH WELL THANK YOU MISTER MILLER! I have not seen Heavenly Creatures! I was notified from chat about your lovely observation, and told the character that you mention is boring, dull, drab, and a psycho. Thank you. At least I'm not sung about in a Space song!!! Doh and you smell of poo. The duke? THE DUKE! The puke more like. Oh and by the way, is it Harrin- GAY, or Harrin-JAY? It's bugged me since last September. And you smell of poo. OH MY GOD!!!! THEY KILLED KENNY!!!!! wrote : >And in memory of Honey. (who smells of poo too - but funnily enough, really gorgeous and scrummy poo.....) >My haiku; > >PLEASE DO WHAT I SAY, >AND GO LOOK IN THE ARCHIVES, >NOW. THANKS VERY MUCH. > >That has got to be a prize winner. Prize winner for sarcastic comments that are about as funny and cutting edge as leprosy?? Honey is trying to keep the list a civilised place, and who can blame him? If you want info - look in THE ARCHIVES! If not, then don't, gawd knows I never do :) Just try and be entertaing and non- insulting!! (I find by telling everyone they smell of poo it keeps things all happy and clappy) And by insulting Honey, you cause ME to get pissed off and LOWER THE TONE OF THE LIST WHICH ISN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN! Kenny/Jake smells of poo. So does Keith Watson. But he smells of EVEN WORSE poo. He smells like Paul Wellers POO. *oooh* And I like the Super Furry Animals, Gorkys Zygotic Mynci, Melys, Anhefren, Joy Divison, Mad kennys all night drinker, belle and sebastian and Hawkwind. Ish. Damon and Naomi are playing the rockin' Preston Adelphi on Oct 16th. SHOULD I GO? I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy ilikethewordpoo Candarel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From leggattn at xxx.edu Thu Sep 24 23:18:09 1998 From: leggattn at xxx.edu (N Leggatt) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: I'll show you claws In-Reply-To: <19980924143834.24652.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: >That's pretty funny considering that pretty much all of you listed the exact same bands< i said that non-funny thing, so i get to reply. _i_ listed different bands from most people's which proves either that i march to the beat of a different bongo or am just stupider than all the smiths fans out there. actually, marginalized as i am, morrissey's lyrics don't really speak to me. egocentric and whiny, with a few witty phrases here and there, as far as i can tell - though i can see how he speaks for a legion of angst-ridden introspectives. no offense meant. i have two smiths albums so back off. the lack of black folks on the music list is startling; good point. can't say i care for the music most american blacks are making today. but fats waller and louis armstrong and their ilk - and the unique jimi hendrix - were geniuses. 99.9% of rap, however, bugs the hell out of me. i bet most b/s fans feel the same way, our favorite band being sprightly and twee and soft-spoken. perhaps i'm just too old and crotchety. humbug. N __ "Go! you may call it madness, folly You shall not chase my gloom away! There's such a charm in melancholy I would not if I could be gay." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ciaran at xxx.net Thu Sep 24 23:26:28 1998 From: ciaran at xxx.net (ciaran at xxx.net) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 23:26:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: saint etienne In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980924232628.007ab630@mail.clara.net> hello all Saint Etienne's foxbase alpha a hodge podge!!!! I am shocked. N. Leggatt clean your ears out, it is a classic. C. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Thu Sep 24 23:42:56 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:42:56 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Lack of black favorite bands References: Message-ID: <360ACAF0.2C28B85A@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Hello, N Leggatt wrote: > smiths albums so back off. the lack of black folks on the music list is > startling; good point. can't say i care for the music most american > blacks are making today. I think you've hit the nail on the head, just about. There just aren't many people in bands from the UK who are of African descent. At least not in all the ones I happen to like. And seeing as how a majority of the bands I like are from the UK... well there you have it. I think that would explain it for a number of people, at least. It's also funny how no one ever mentions any other ethnic groups when they say that there's a lack of non-caucasians in people's fave lists. > but fats waller and louis armstrong and their > ilk - and the unique jimi hendrix - were geniuses. 99.9% of rap, however, > bugs the hell out of me. i bet most b/s fans feel the same way, our > favorite band being sprightly and twee and soft-spoken. Hm...well no, I'd have to say that I like quite a lot of rap, just nothing that has come out in the past few years, whereas I think 99.9% of Jimi Hendrix' songs...oh hell, 100%, bug the hell out of me. You could also easily say the say the same thing about that, seeing as how soloing for an entire song isn't exactly twee either. People who like B&S seem to actually like a rather wide variety of bands, judging from the people I've talked to. It's just some odd reason that the people who responded to the band lists thing liked, for the most part, a lot of the same bands. And while we're on the subject, I noted that there was no bossanova on anyone's lists. How can it be so! I have an LP sent to me by a lovely Brazilian in which Joao Gilberto and some other Brazillians play some nice songs, and the guitar parts in "Ease Your Feet into the Sea" remind me of the entire LP. Of course, I highly doubt that B&S got a Brazillian LP and ripped off some things from it. Those who receive my tape tree tape should find on it a song from that LP, as well as other bossanova hits, as well as your everyday anorak-wearing bands. And no, Brad, no Smiths ;) /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at oak.cats.ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TWidmer at xxx.com Fri Sep 25 00:36:28 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 16:36:28 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Lack of black favorite bands Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF032A07B7@amerwksnt01.xil.com> <> I wasn't going to comment on this because, hmm well didn't care to, really! but the nitpicker in me did, so... As I recall Genevieve (who, it would seem, has ANGEL WINGS!!) mentioned some pretty slinky soul-type bands in her wee list...and some brave soul fessed up to liking Mariah Carey also (c'mon now don't try to backpeddle and say it was only sarcasm!!) Anyway, Mariah Carey is black... or at least as black as I am, which admittedly is only a little but...it counts... ok so her music artistry may be questionable...but LAURYN HILL! there's some "good American black" music, she is not only talented and soulful but beautiful. (...here's where I wait for the blacklash, "no you silly moo, Lauryn Hill is pish/p!o!o!/whatever the hip slag word of the day is") Regardless, I'm sure there *are* tons of Sinisterines who count black singers/bands among their favorites, but they probably just didn't bother posting their list. Someone brought up SAINT ETIENNE... which again gives me the opportunity to foolishly offer to make mix tapes of them for anyone interested in checking the hype... contact me privately for details...Any Avenuers here?? Yes that's me!! the girl who posts about B&S all the time!! Hey there IS a B&S connection here, according to Oon's article (http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/oons-article) Bob Etienne wanted to sign the band to his label. BRAZILIAN MUSIC Ah yes, lovely Ivo can probably fill us in on this one... By the way i think I fancy you a bit Ivo, photo or not! I love Brazilian P!O!P! particularly really crap bands....Titas, Biquini Cavadao, Barao Vermelho - and then there's Legiao Urbana....I suppose I've lost any respect Ivo could've had for me.... oh and Xuxa too. Off to jam to en vogue. oh yes. Ta, tara +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SpaceboyUK at xxx.com Fri Sep 25 01:10:25 1998 From: SpaceboyUK at xxx.com (SpaceboyUK at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 20:10:25 EDT Subject: Sinister: boy with the arab vinyl strap Message-ID: how big is the UK version of TBWTAS vinyl in comparison to the US version? -a.james +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mdinh at xxx.com Fri Sep 25 01:19:55 1998 From: mdinh at xxx.com (Mark Dinh) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 17:19:55 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Fav bands Message-ID: <002c01bde81a$39365e20$010510ac@user.lillick.com> My favorites are: Catherine Wheel, Jesus & Mary Chain, Teenage Fanclub, Stone Roses, Pavement, Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holliday, Kitchens of Distinction, Radiohead, Adorable, Wedding Presents Top 5 albums: Stone Roses - Stone Roses Popsicle - Lacquer Catherine Wheel - Chrome Teenage Fanclub - Grand Prix Radiohead - The Bends well... 6th favorite album - Kitchens of Distinction -> The Death of Cool Top 5 songs: Ride - Taste Radiohead - Black Star Embrace - Fireworks Jesus & Mary Chain - Something's Wrong Style Council - A Casual Affair -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mdinh at xxx.com Fri Sep 25 01:28:52 1998 From: mdinh at xxx.com (Mark Dinh) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 17:28:52 -0700 Subject: Sinister: favorite albums Message-ID: <000b01bde81b$793ace60$010510ac@user.lillick.com> My favorites are: Catherine Wheel, Jesus & Mary Chain, Teenage Fanclub, Stone Roses, Pavement, Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holliday, Kitchens of Distinction, Radiohead, Adorable, Wedding Presents Top 5 albums: Stone Roses - Stone Roses Popsicle - Lacquer Catherine Wheel - Chrome Teenage Fanclub - Grand Prix Radiohead - The Bends well... 6th favorite album - Kitchens of Distinction -> The Death of Cool Top 5 songs: Ride - Taste Radiohead - Black Star Embrace - Fireworks Jesus & Mary Chain - Something's Wrong Style Council - A Casual Affair +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From csomeone at xxx.com Fri Sep 25 01:37:07 1998 From: csomeone at xxx.com (Cynthia Someone) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 17:37:07 PDT Subject: Sinister: eh? bossanova? Message-ID: <19980925003708.13957.qmail@hotmail.com> there was no bossanova on anyone's lists. How can it be so! I have an LP sent to me by a lovely Brazilian in which Joao Gilberto and some other Brazillians play some nice songs. I'm so glad someone has mentioned the Brazilians. you've restored my faith in the world. Besides keeping a toe in British waters, I've really got this thing for the brazilians. What LP is that Mick McMick speaks of? Also check out the first album of Caetano Veloso (kind of regarded as the John Lennon of Brazil), Domingo, with Gal Costa, if you fancy. Very gentle. Wonderful guitarist. My TCS loving friends cover his songs. Some lyrics, translated: My heart doesn't tire of having hope Of a day that is all that it wants. My heart of a child isn't only the memory of the happy face of a woman Who passed through my dream Without saying goodbye And made of my eyes an endless cry. My vagabond heart Wants to save the world in me. I'm new to the list. My name is Cynthia. C: ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From scaredy_kat at xxx.com Fri Sep 25 02:37:18 1998 From: scaredy_kat at xxx.com (Krista A. Garcia) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 20:37:18 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Who says New Yorkers aren't polite References: Message-ID: <360AF3CD.38CD@hotmail.com> > > the 2nd picture is a group shot taken towards the end of the day when a > lot of people had gone home but you get the idea. notice a PEDALPUSHER > WEARER. *gasp* > Hey, that's me in the offending pants. I kept waiting for nasty comments, but of course I got none (not that I particularly wanted them). It just goes to show how nice and polite Belle and Sebastian fans truly are. A little wild and menacing with chinese yo-yos? Maybe. But rude? Never (except to squirrels). Pedal pushin' along, Krista +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vegus at xxx.no Fri Sep 25 01:55:38 1998 From: vegus at xxx.no (Stein Vegusdal) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 02:55:38 +0200 Subject: SV: Sinister: boy with the arab vinyl strap Message-ID: <002b01bde81f$36641200$43064382@steinveg> Well, let's say that you buy 10000 copies of the original UK jeepster version, and then 10000 copies of the US Matador version. If you then put them on two boats of exactly same weight and length, the boat with the UK-Jeepster version would be about 600 kilos heavier....... In other words: UK = 180 grams HEAVY vinyl US = 120 grams LIGHT vinyl Steinski -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: SpaceboyUK at aol.com Til: sinister at majordomo.net Dato: 25. september 1998 02:17 Emne: Sinister: boy with the arab vinyl strap > >how big is the UK version of TBWTAS vinyl >in comparison to the US version? > >-a.james >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SpaceboyUK at xxx.com Fri Sep 25 02:02:31 1998 From: SpaceboyUK at xxx.com (SpaceboyUK at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:02:31 EDT Subject: Sinister: one more BOY question Message-ID: <6054c971.360aeba7@aol.com> on the uk jeepster version of the CD- is the CD BLACK like the US version. i just dont want to miss out on anything,just in case. -a.james +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tonyk at xxx.com Fri Sep 25 02:14:47 1998 From: tonyk at xxx.com (Kiewel, Tony) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:14:47 -0700 Subject: Sinister: mmm... Message-ID: Ah sweet Brazil... Any Os Mutantes fans out there? Absolutely wonderful stuff, almost Sgt. Peppers with a bossa Nova beat at times. And to answer somebody's question earlier regarding other L.A. Sinister listees... here I am! Here's a tip to all the rest of you Angeleno B&S fans out there, KXLU 88.9fm loves the record and is playing it all the time, so tune in! chili dog, tonyk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From escossia at xxx.br Fri Sep 25 02:29:39 1998 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:29:39 -0300 Subject: Sinister: eh? bossanova? Message-ID: <01bde823$f668bac0$0100007f@localhost> Cynthia wrote: >I'm so glad someone has mentioned the Brazilians. you've restored my >faith in the world. Besides keeping a toe in British waters, I've really >got this thing for the brazilians. Bossa Nova is REALLY great Fragile, almost sad (but sunny) and great melodies... There are TOO many bands with a Bossa Nova "feeling" today. In UK, Japan, Spain, USA (and, this is funny, a few here in Brazil too) Cynthia Do you know Maysa ? She was a singer....a very sad singer. jazzy and sad. The Brazilian (female) Chet Baker. In one of her songs she sings with a deep & sad voice *Ninguem me ama, ninguem me quer,ninguem me chama de meu amor* (No one loves me, no one wants me, no one calls me "my love" ) (Tara, is it right ? .. You speak Portuguese very well, it's better than my english) Ivo A P Escossia " ... I was yours for the asking ,a child afraid. Sent unfettered letters,postage unpaid. In identicle avenues that no-one would miss, the world could not touch us, but we could not kiss ... " (Orlando - Contained) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cp83985 at xxx.edu Fri Sep 25 03:56:36 1998 From: cp83985 at xxx.edu (Carl Polgar Jr) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:56:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: yet another newbie Message-ID: hello. i am yet another of what appears to be a large influx of newbies on this mailing list who feels he has to introduce himself. this newbie is writing to you from the dark, humid hell known as florida. orlando, to be precise. not much goes on here, culturally speaking. bands tend to stay away from here, with good reason. usually, one has to drive for seven hours to atlanta (or athens) to see anything worthwile. i spent the summer driving to new york (twice!) and washington to see the likes of the magnetic fields, pulp, and radiohead. i am a sociology major at the university of central florida who retreats from all his harsh realities to the world of belle & sebastian whenever he can. it's nice to see that others like to do the same. i've written too much so i'll stop. but first, if there are any other members residing in florida, i would love to hear from you, especially if you are planning on going to the athens show. please e-mail me privately, at cp83985 at pegasus.cc.ucf.edu. also, being a sociology major, i would love to know what you older list members think about the rapid rise in new members, especially since the release of the new album. if you would like to share your thoughts, again, e-mail me privately. now i have definitely written too much. bye. carl p.s. i promise never to use the word "newbie" again. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From horst at xxx.br Fri Sep 25 05:09:31 1998 From: horst at xxx.br (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Henrique_Horst?=) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:09:31 -0300 Subject: Sinister: eh? bossanova? Message-ID: <01bde83a$4d673ac0$0ffaf9c8@dalila.com.br.aptness.com.br> Actually THERE WAS some bossa-nova on the lists. If not the classic João & Astrud Gilberto/Antonio Carlos (Tom) Jobim/Nara Leão/Edu Lobo stuff, we had Strereolab, Everything But The Girl and others, not to mention them - what would a slower version of "Ease Your Feet..." be but a piece of bossa-nova at its most traditional ? By the way, "Troubles come and troubles go/The trouble that we've come to know/Will stay with us till we get old/..." could almost be a translation of "Tristeza não tem fim/Felicidade sim", couldn't it Ivo/Tara ? Suggestions ? Sure. Dig for Red Hot + Rio and Nova Bossa - Red Hot On Verve. Both are worth listening if you're interested in that kind of sound. Jh "I have heard the big music And I'll never be the same Someting so pure Hey ! Just called my name" -----Mensagem original----- De: Cynthia Someone Para: sinister at majordomo.net Data: Quinta-feira, 24 de Setembro de 1998 21:05 Assunto: Sinister: eh? bossanova? > >there was no bossanova on >anyone's lists. How can it be so! I have an LP sent to me by a lovely >Brazilian in which Joao Gilberto and some other Brazillians play some >nice songs. > >I'm so glad someone has mentioned the Brazilians. you've restored my >faith in the world. Besides keeping a toe in British waters, I've really >got this thing for the brazilians. What LP is that Mick McMick speaks >of? Also check out the first album of Caetano Veloso (kind of regarded >as the John Lennon of Brazil), Domingo, with Gal Costa, if you fancy. >Very gentle. Wonderful guitarist. My TCS loving friends cover his songs. >Some lyrics, translated: >My heart doesn't tire of having hope >Of a day that is all that it wants. >My heart of a child >isn't only the memory of the happy face of a woman >Who passed through my dream >Without saying goodbye >And made of my eyes an endless cry. >My vagabond heart >Wants to save the world in me. > >I'm new to the list. My name is Cynthia. > >C: > >______________________________________________________ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Fri Sep 25 05:08:55 1998 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 00:08:55 EDT Subject: Sinister: It's the alphabetizing trainspotter, I guess? Message-ID: So no one had any black music artists on their lists, huh? Pity. I started off my list with Albert Ayler (FYI) cuz I keep my cd's near the computer of which there are only a few since the 1000's of vinyl pieces I have collected over the last 30 years are stacked on shelves in another room. I only buy music on cd that I really love and don't want to wear out on wax and are what I listen to the most often at work, car, etc.. and that is what I mainly listed be it alphabetical or otherwise. Working at a record store in an urban city doesn't hurt such diverse tastes either. Lots of black music too. Sun Ra (that's jazz for children of 80's fey pop) is my largest artist collection on vinyl and disc besides Marc Bolan & T.Rex. Does this describe a trainspotter? Not really. Just a jazz fan that grew up in the late 60's/early 70's rock era. Did I mention I have a lot of Curtis Mayfield and James Brown on lp too? Sorry I missed the Smiths era. Not much impressed me in the 80's in pop. Not until Suede came along did I think an english band rocked with balls like in the heyday of Bowie/Bolan. Morrissey was always too melodramatic/over-the-top for me without sincerity. Belle & Sebastian. That's melancholy sincerity with great lyrics too re- inforce that cold feel. Just an opinion.... Pete +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From parachute at xxx.net Fri Sep 25 07:32:52 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (brad) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 02:32:52 -0400 Subject: Sinister: to all new york listees Message-ID: <360B3914.519A@earthlink.net> hey. listen up, i'll be in new york city in about a week and a half, and i don't know a damn thing about the place, and i'm travelling alone. so who wants to help a brother out? if you live in new york and maybe want to meet up and show me around town, email me privately ( parachute at earthlink.net ). i need people to make sure my vacation isn't wasted trying to figure out the subway or where to go. i was gonna just come up and hang out and just roam around, but i decided that would probably get boring. so if anyone wants to be my tour guide for a day, let me know. -brad +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Fri Sep 25 09:47:44 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:47:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Black Music Message-ID: <01BDE869.8C200240@keith@qss.co.uk> I think indeed it would be quite an assumption to suggest that most of us don't like black music. I've been on this list since it started and almost everyone I've met from it is into some form of black music, be it Soul, Funk, Hip Hop, Isaac Hayes, Reggae, Ska or Isaac Hayes. I love stuff out of all of these genres myself. It's what's continually surprised me about the comments outsiders have made about this list, i.e. that we're all anal "Cardigan wearers", whereas over the course of the last year, I'd have said that nothing could've been further from the truth. I'df certainly say that it's easy to make the assumption if you listen to B+S that all the fans are going to conform to some bowlcut/anorak stereotype, but it just isn't true. I think it's an interesting distinction too, which makes for a difference between Belle and Sebastian and other bands considered in their field. I for one am glad for the breadth of musical taste that's on the list, and just because a load of people fired some lists off that contain Nick Drake, Tindersticks and the Smiths in it, doesn't mean they don't like other stuff too. I love all these bands to death as well. Indeed I own everything each of these artists have released. I also think that perhaps it's about time we had a bit of a report on the tape tree - it'd be nice to see what people thought of each others tapes, and maybe get an inkling of what people put on them - perhaps that'll give us a better idea as to the musical scope of the people on the list. Thanks, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Fri Sep 25 10:02:32 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:02:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: one more BOY question References: <6054c971.360aeba7@aol.com> Message-ID: <360B5C28.12181B0F@jeepster.co.uk> Hi everyone, just to clear this up, the artwork on all the releases should be EXACTLY the same all over the world, except for the differing cat numbers and record company logos. cheers, Katrina. SpaceboyUK at aol.com wrote: > on the uk jeepster version of the CD- > is the CD BLACK like the US version. > i just dont want to miss out on anything,just in case. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Fri Sep 25 10:08:04 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:08:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: B&S European Gigs Support Message-ID: <360B5D74.D28AB54A@jeepster.co.uk> hi all, just thought i'd let you know that The Lucksmiths will be supporting B&S at their Munich and Fribourg dates. i'm not entirely sure who will be supporting for the other dates ... might just be a DJ. cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Fri Sep 25 10:01:16 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:01:16 +0100 Subject: SV: Sinister: boy with the arab vinyl strap References: <002b01bde81f$36641200$43064382@steinveg> Message-ID: <360B5BDC.6DB2523@jeepster.co.uk> hello, i could have sworn that matador were going to press the vinyl onto 150 grammes ... well, that's what they told us anyway? will check it out. cheers, Katrina. a.james wrote: > >how big is the UK version of TBWTAS vinyl > >in comparison to the US version? Stein Vegusdal wrote: > Well, let's say that you buy 10000 copies of the original > UK jeepster version, and then 10000 copies of the US > Matador version. If you then put them on two boats of exactly > same weight and length, the boat with the UK-Jeepster version > would be about 600 kilos heavier....... > In other words: UK = 180 grams HEAVY vinyl > US = 120 grams LIGHT vinyl -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JohnJ at xxx.com Fri Sep 25 10:13:02 1998 From: JohnJ at xxx.com (John Johnston) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:13:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Shoulders back lovely boys Message-ID: I was thinking that people had been a bit hard on St Etienne who have made some lovely records, when the Incomparable Tara wrote.. >Bob Etienne wanted to sign the band to his label. Which maybe explained why I had been standing next to him at the B&S gig at the Borderline way back when. He didn't heckle, he nodded his head and was generally a glowing advertisement for the cool set in London. I was think, Peter Miller. If you're falling out of love with Isaac Hayes,might not the incomparable Melvin Hayes make a good substitute. I've been watching some glorious It Ain't Half Hot Mum episodes. I believe a cross-dressing concert party crooner is always a match for Isaac and his so called soul. What price Stuart Murdoch - wannabe Cockney?? I was listening to the much-underated Mary Jo and that lovely bit where he goes "Dunno what she wants" always sounds a bit gor' blimmey guv, apples n' pears if you ask me. I'm off to put the kettle on, anyone fancy a cuppa? John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From debbie.prior at xxx.com Fri Sep 25 10:49:34 1998 From: debbie.prior at xxx.com (debbie) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:49:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Crazy Horses! WAAAAAAAAAA! WAAAAAAAAAA! Message-ID: hello there, m'li'l pumpkin pies... i am unsubscribing now (not that i've posted much recently anyway) because, well, to coin a phrase, you all smell of POO! No, not really, but i shall be moving into a no doubt grotty slug/rat/cockroach/oasisfan infested flat in Glasgow (it's 'Smiles Better' dontcha know, *be* jealous) and will not have a horrible computer there. Which is GOOD, cus i hate 'em. Now, i think Keef asked about people's comments on tha tape tree thang therefore i shall give thee my impressions on mr Joss' tape which i am soon to send on. Its pish! Not really, of course: It is a mighty fine piece of sonic pleasure i must say. I may even go as far to say as it makes me wanna boogie all day long. Obviously the highlight has to be the Osmonds' 'Crazy Horses' (Waaaa! Waaaa! etc). Oh, and 'the french toast man' which makes me giggle and wish i'd put 'the wonderful thing about Tiggers' on my tape.. For anyone whose still interested, you also have Little Richard, Curtis Mayfield, Captain Beefheart, Sinatra and many other funky tunes to wait with much anticipation for. So there you go, hope that pleases you. after tonight, if you wanna tell me my tape is shit (i'll warn you now, it contains a manics track...), assassinate my character or anything else you want, you can mail: velocitygirl45 at hotmail.com and i'll no doubt send equally abusive mail back. Oh, and just for the record: Hole, Madonna, MSP, Bob Dylan, New Order, Smiths, Sonic Youth, Nirvana, Patti Smith, Adam Ant among many, many others. But not they pishmeisters B&S, obviously.... love always, debbie xxx "I'm so modern that everything is pointless" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Fri Sep 25 11:01:43 1998 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 03:01:43 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Steviegate Message-ID: Well, I have finally given up on the faltering mail system at work and have signed up with the entirely inappropriate chickmail.com instead. If anyone has been trying to contact me over the last few days (regarding the tape tree, marriage proposals, etc.) sorry, but I haven't have received any messages. I understand that our Stevie has been subpoenaed by Kenneth Starr and has been asked to prove his claim that he took a note of her charms but no cigar. The argument is resting on the linguistics of the legal definition for "taking" a cigar. Expect to see the resulting testimony in a video store near you. Sorry if this has already been said, but did anyone else watch 3rd Rock from the Sun last night? Was I just imagining it, or did Sally Solomon for no reason at all declare that she was no longer called Sally, and was now called Honey? Bizarre. The Fat Slug that was Kevan *********************************** chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickclick.com http://www.chickmail.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nickdastoor at xxx.com Fri Sep 25 11:21:27 1998 From: nickdastoor at xxx.com (Nick Dastoor) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 03:21:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: I like new French people (WARNING: No French people content) Message-ID: <19980925102127.12792.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> Tim Hopsicles wrote: > This list is a mighty and special thing, but it is also a bit > fragile. Take care of it. Sniff. So long Tim and I agree with every word you say. Please everyone take note of Honey's pleas and don't argue about it on the list. He does a smashing job of running the list and tends to know best about how these things should be done. I like to think of him as the archetypal benevolent dictator. > The best way to take care is to try to make sure that *every time* > you post, you put a bit of wit, or a bit of heart into your > message. Then everything will be just dandy. Wise words indeed. If only T'Pau had launched their career with 'Heart and Wit' things could have been a whole lot different. "WeeJay" wrote: > Not that you're paying attention any more (see last posting) but this > will probably be my last post for a while as I'm going to Uni, and > while I'll keep subscribed I'll probably be too busy to contribute. What's this - swots on Sinister? I found it hard enough to cope with Keith being a prefect, but this takes the biscuit. I had a dream last night. I was at a B&S concert and Stuart M bounced up on stage with a 'new look', modelled on Christian Bale in 'Metroland'. Isobel was ill so he took the vocals for 'Is it wicked not to care?' and made a real pigs ear of it. No one whispered 'That was gorgeous' in his ear. Isobel made a late appearance, but boy she was looking rough. Should have stayed in bed. Did I miss anyone mentioning the bit in Melody Maker where it said "Belle and Sebastian have contacted the MM to apologise fot their late appearance at Shepherd's Bush" etc.? Stuart M. said there were still planning to do the boat tour at some stage, but that boat owners had worried what pop fans might do to their vessels. I don't know why that sounds pervy. Anyway, Stupot said they had nothing to worry about as we were all "sweeties". How kind. I felt like cutting it out and sending it to that journalist who seemed to believe that the delay was all on purpose and 'very Belle and Sebastian' with "So ner" written in big letters. By the way - nil points to Stuart for taking back what he said about National Park. I liked the idea of blaming it all on them and their idiot drummer, because they were rubbish. I seem to remember Katrina telling us not to miss them 'because they're good'. Hmmm. Nick xxx _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seaborne at xxx.nl Fri Sep 25 11:58:21 1998 From: seaborne at xxx.nl (Koen) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:58:21 +0200 Subject: Sinister: blinkers? Message-ID: <001901bde873$69f09720$6b866dc2@computer> "...because you're making blinkers fashionable..." Can anyone tell me what blinkers are? It struck me this week that I've been singing along to this line without knowing what they are, and why they would be unfashionable. Anyway, if I can make the effort I will try to translate a B&S article which appeared in today's "Volkskrant" (a Dutch paper). It's quite big, and apart from a few little mistakes quite good. Expect the results this Sunday. Koen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kenny at xxx.uk Sat Sep 26 12:36:15 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:36:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I smell of poo. Message-ID: <199809251142.MAA04315@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> So Fluffy baby, Hi ya it is Jake here, known to you as Kenny, who alledgedly smells of poo. You say that my sarcasm is , and I quote, "about as funny and cutting edge as leprosy". Well i think that there is a case of double standards here, seeing as darling Katrina decided that she would be sarcastic in one mailing not too long ago about track 5 on 369, yeah go on LOOK IT UP IN THE ARCHIVES. And did you decide to tell her she smelt of poo? Like wee you did. And as for being cutting edge I've had even more people say to me "oh my god they've killed Kenny" than I had lists of bands sent to me on this list. So that makes you about as cutting edge as an Austin Allegro. And no, I wasn't have a dig at Honey in his absence, I was doing him a favour by reminding people to "LITA" so the list doesn't get bombarded with questions that have been asked a million times already. I would have sent this privately but i thought that I would defend myself. Jake. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Fri Sep 25 12:57:56 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:57:56 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I smell of poo. Message-ID: <01BDE884.1E08C420@keith@qss.co.uk> I think that mail Sarah sent was a bit of a joke really... I shouldn't worry about it too much. It was funny though :) Cheers, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Sat Sep 26 12:56:30 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (kenny) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:56:30 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Guilty as charged Message-ID: <199809251238.NAA12673@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Dear lovely fellow passifistic fellow listees, I sent that last mail before reading what had been sent to me, and as a result I now feel guilty about argueing on the list, as I have been doing quite a bit lately. I love the list as much as the next cardie wearing saddo. Sorry I promoise to love it more, and argue less. While people seem to be talking about what outsiders semm to stereotype B&S as I thought I'd say that all of my mates reckon that the rest of you fans are all students, with that certain hippyness that students have. And they call the band Bell End Sebastian to annoy me. There is an picture of an arab strap in Melody Maker this week, in the photo of the band on the singles page, one is holding up the SOTW and the other is holding an arab strap. And how emmense does the Boat Tour sound. I want to stay on it as a cruise, and listen to each gig, and maybe they could play a different set each evening. Oh what a thought. Jake :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Sep 25 14:47:13 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:47:13 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Howdy Do Dere! Message-ID: <01bde88b$0085aa60$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Afternoon honkies! It would appear that all-out racial war has broken out on the list. Well, it had to happen. Keith wrote: I've been on this list since it started and almost everyone I've met from it is into some form of black music, be it Soul, Funk, Hip Hop, Isaac Hayes, Reggae, Ska or Isaac Hayes. I'm glad you pointed that out, Keith. Isaac Hayes is indeed a genre unto himself, and I could have sworn he'd been the subject of lots of idle discussion lately. He is also one of the few artists willing to show the world that the top of his head is black too. To be quite honest, any kind of racial separatism makes my hair curl up into a huge afro, a bit like Jonathan King used to have, so I reject the concept of balck music and white music or the new asian underground or whatever. Having said that, I was one of the people who swore Rick Astley had to be black really. Recently someone called B&S the whitest music ever made, which I found a bit uncomfortable, but didn't say anything in order to maintain the peace. As for the lists of favourite bands, I think it's probably right to suggest that those with different tastes simply didn't feel the urge to tell everyone about it. These things tend to come out in the long run anyway. And there are plenty of British groups with members from all kinds of "ethnic groupages" in them. Big Country spring to mind, but there are hundreds of others, it's just so normal nobody notices. I could go on and on, but there are more important matters to pursue: Duke said: No horrid gossip on the boy with the honey pot because, frankly, he's just too darn lovely. I certainly wasn't suggesting anyone should indulge in nasty gossip about Paul, just talk about him behind his back. I tried the same thing last year, but nobody would play. I personally love Paul like an eagle (that's secret code for wearing a Nazi uniform) and I am sure he hasn't got any skeletons in the cupboard. Although he probably will have when he gets back, unless he sorted someone out to look after Splat and Pish while he's away. Fluffy Sarah wrote: That stewpid stinking tatty old bucket full to the brim of stale pee and quiche scrapings, otherwise known as the delightful serial thriler Mister Miller OR EVEN! the Bobby Chariot stylee largin' it dude wrote this : Sarah, did Tim send you his automatic insult machine before he left? OH WELL THANK YOU MISTER MILLER! I have not seen Heavenly Creatures! I was notified from chat about your lovely observation, and told the character that you mention is boring, dull, drab, and a psycho. Thank you. At least I'm not sung about in a Space song!!! Doh and you smell of poo. Sarah, calm down, you're frightening me! I only saw about ten minutes of the film, before I could take Ms Winslett no more, and "your" character was neither boring, dull, drab or a psycho. She just sat in a classroom scowling. I thought she was very nice, actually. Not for the first time, someone mentioned the loveliness of Elisabeth from Canada. Eat shit, turkey, I've met her. Not only was she wearing a Saint Etinne t-shirt, she also drank copius amounts of cider, later to fall into a deep and snoreless sleep. I have a sneaking suspicion that she's no stranger to the wonderful world of Brazilian popular music. All in all, a great bloke. You should hear her say "Genevieve". Or "shagging". I'M GOING NOW, TO TRY AND GET RID OF THIS POO SMELL! Mister Miller +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From blewis at xxx.com Fri Sep 25 15:21:26 1998 From: blewis at xxx.com (Barney Lewis) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:21:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Judy and her gang of homies Message-ID: <55DA911DCC48D111B23E0060972FDF720C96E5@prince01> Hey, what price B&S as the new Wu-Tang Clan? If the recent discussion re black artists is anything to go by, it looks like maybe we could bring some influence to bear on the bands future direction. Picture the future.....after a year away, the new B&S album comes out. A dramatic restyling sees a double album of blunted beatz and kung-fu references, the latter a result of Stuart M's newfound obsession with the Martial Arts. Entitled "The Ghetto I Am In", it draws heavily on the experiences of band in their everday life confronting guns, violence, drugs, and sitting around in cafes. Despite rapturous critical and public acclaim, the band begins to fall apart in an orgy of bitter infighting caused by the very same drugs, violence and overconsumption of carrot-cake in cafes. Although more live appearances are promised, the band incur the wrath of punters when no more than two or three members of the band show up at each gig. As verbal sparring between members of the Glasgow musical fraternity explodes into outright name-calling, police are called when things get nasty and a member of the band plunges a metaphysical knife through the heart of an Arab Strap by saying "Cheer up, you miserable git" and "I've heard more uplifting music in a funeral parlour". Things come to a head when band members start to leave, beginning with Stuart David who departs for a DJ'ing career, laying down some "dope shit" while "chilling with the g's". Meanwhile, the female contingent of the band depart to become ace production duo Missies Martin and Campbell, coming up with bustin' grooves for members of the recently-split Backstreet Boys. As the band crumbles around him, Stuart M. renames himself Ol' Dirty Bugger and duets with Celine Dion on a cover of Kirk Douglas' "Kung-Fu Fighting" before proclaiming himself the illegitimate son of Bert Kwok. He finally cracks when informed that Stuart David has been arrested on suspicion of being responsible for a recent spate of vicious Ink Drive-By shootings..... It could happen, you know.....by the I do like Arab Strap actually, it's just not the sort of music you want to wake up to. Also, to add to the Brazillian debate, I'd highly recommend Sergio Mendes and his Brazil '66, especially their version of Mas Que Nada (theme from the Nike/Brazil in airport ad) and a series of awesome Beatles covers they did at the time...also, thanks to all who replied to my first message privately, it's nice to know you care... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From babyblu at xxx.uk Fri Sep 25 15:34:42 1998 From: babyblu at xxx.uk (Rory Mackie) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:34:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Desmonds, Dickon and Dodgy old bollocks from Mr Moffat. References: <199809242140.WAA26132@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <360BAA02.5E7D@gold.globalcafe.co.uk> Funkyseb shared his charming and v. funny ideas of what we all looked like, but I can't quote from two digests so you'll just have to trust that he did, That's odd Seb, cos before I worked out who you were, I thought a Funkyseb would probably look like the white hairdresser bloke out of 'Desmonds'. Ivo said: > > " ... I was yours for the asking ,a child afraid. Sent unfettered > letters,postage unpaid. In identicle avenues that no-one > would miss, the world could not touch us, but we could > not kiss ... " > (Orlando - Contained) > Oh, Dickon! You're not fooling anyone you know. The boy from the Arab strap said in the Melody Maker: MM: What's your favourite novelty single? TBFTAS: Have you heard the first Belle & Sebastian record? Right, we'll meet you in the playground by the swings after chemistry Aidan! SeeYaAtThePicnicRoryxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Fri Sep 25 15:50:02 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:50:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Toxteth Riots (slight return) Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22230B5F@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Hang on a tick - what race war? I could have sworn I'd been paying attention, but to me the lack of black artists in everybody's favourite lists is no more than a symptom of people either not having had enough opportunities to encounter diverse kinds of music, or pure and simple personal taste. And, with the exception of half of the Dream section of TBWTAS, Belle and Sebastian's music doesn't have a lot in common with music traditionally made by black people (it's not easy to categorise this without sounding racist). Yes, there are going to be exceptions, but on the whole it's not too dangerous a generalisation to make. When I was thinking who my favourite bands were, they pretty much turned out to be honkies too - I could have included Public Enemy, Diamond D, Jurassic 5, god knows how many funk bands of the 60s and 70s, De La Soul, Lee Perry, etc. etc., but none of the above have had the effect on me that, say, Throwing Muses (black bassist!) or Madder Rose have. When I see the slightest bit of racist ideology rear its ugly head on the list, I'll be the first to shoot it down. Perhaps I'm being blinkered, and there's a sinister (sic) white supremacist undercurrent, but I don't think so. Looking back on your letter, Peter, I think I may be taking it a bit too seriously. Apologies to those of you who think I'm right up my own arse, but I still think it's a valid point to make. It's a bit sad the whole race thing had to come up at all, really. Anyway, pomposity over for now. I'm on the verge of booking the Pioneer Hotel in NY, which is almost suspiciously cheap - let's hope it's just the time of year. Which reminds me, what's the weather going to be like? Oh dear, I'm not at all prepared... See you on Saturday, I hope... Mark +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Scott_Turner at xxx.COM Fri Sep 25 16:00:59 1998 From: Scott_Turner at xxx.COM (Scott Turner) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:00:59 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Please try to think!!! Message-ID: <8525668A.00508252.00@JHMAIL.JH.COM> How did all this nonsense about black music start anyway. I mean come on people!!! Being a huge fan of jazz, i like a load of black artists, but who gives a fuck!! Stop the awful misuse of political correctness. What a bunch of bad application of thought!!!! Why should we let multicultural politics drive our tastes, instead of letting our passions, individuality, and intuition drive our tastes. And why do you privelege black music over other musics- do you have a record collection full of Chinese, Hindu. arabic, jewish, and Tunatuvan split throat singing too!!!!!!!!!! Are we all supposed to put our hair in dred locks, throw on a turban, where a silk komona with native american boots. Look at me everybody, I am multicultural!!!!!!! and what so bad with liking "white" music anyway. So what if B&S are the whitest band in the world (which i don't think they are anyway)? Are white people not supposed to like their artistic accomplishments? What a bucket full of pish People, try to think. please. pretty please. .scott +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Fri Sep 25 15:30:51 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:30:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: jeepster-news: Belle & Sebastian - Tigermilk Message-ID: <360BA91B.1C9A5C2A@jeepster.co.uk> hello everyone, somebody has approached me to ask if i could help in selling their copy of Tigermilk, and i thought it would be appropriate to give you all a chance of purchasing it. please note that this is the private sale of a mint condition, fully signed copy of the LP. if you wish to place an offer for this record, please e-mail me privately at mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk with your name, telephone number, e-mail address and offer (in UK Pounds Sterling only please). i will be accepting offers for two weeks starting today and finishing on Friday 9th October. if you need any more info or have a question about the record, just mail me at the address above. cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a message from the Jeepster Records news mailing list. 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cleonard at xxx.COM Fri Sep 25 16:58:12 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 16:58:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: DE LIVER UNS Message-ID: Mr. Spock here. How've you been? You look well. Here's a screenplay for my next blockbuster. I made it up. All of it. Even the people, and dammit the story too. Any resemblance to real people or a real film is a damn coincidence. Again I used a sweary approach, to portray some of my harder edged characters. I thoroughly recommend none of you take up swearing. Watch it kids. DE LIVER UNS ============ Stuart Murdoch, Stevie Jackson and Stephen Pastel are having a weekend canoeing down the Cahooooooga river. Usually they play golf, but they fancied a change. Characters Stephen Pastel : Adventurer, hard as fuck Stuart Murdoch : Humanist, nature loving, effeminate. Stevie Jackson : Guitar wielding family man. Red AMK van drives up to a wooden hut by the side of a huge river. There's a wee guy sitting with a banjo outside Stephen Pastel: Gonna drive ma van tae Glasgae, ya ugly wee cunt? Stuart Murdoch: Swephen, why oh why dwo you have to be so so wude to people? Stephen Pastel: FUCKIN SHUT IT YOU! ANSWER ME, ya ugly wee bastard! Stevie Jackson: Wow man, you've got a banjo - look I gotta guitar. Let's jam! [Stevie and the ugly wee fella play that duelling banjos tune. Top!] Stuart Murdoch: Oh, that's was beeeaaaauuuuutiful! How wovely! Wovely Wovely Wovely! Stephen Pastel: Aye, that was fuckin magic, by the way. Stevie Jackson: Nice one wee man. I could play all day with you. Ugly Wee Man : Aye right! You're pish at guitar, big man. [Stephen Pastel shoots the wee guy with an arrow. The wee guy dies] Stuart Murdoch: Oh no! Swephen, why evew did you dwo that? You'we so siwwy! Stevie Jackson: Aye, that was a bit uncalled for, ya nutter. Stephen Pastel: Wee bastard called me a poof! Stevie Jackson: No, he said I was shite at guitar, which is fair enough. Stephen Pastel: He fuckin never! He called me a fuckin bender! Wee shite. So I killed him. YOU GOT A FUCKIN PROBLEM WI THAT? Stevie Jackson: He really didn't, you know. Stephen Pastel: Shite! What am I gonna fucking do then? Stuart Murdoch: Phone the powice and tell them what you have done? Stephen Pastel: FUCK THAT - I'M NO FUCKING GOING BACK TO BARLINNIE!! IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT, YOU SELFISH WEE FUCK? Stevie Jackson: Why don't wee just pull him up into those woods, and bury him? Stephen Pastel: Aye, nice one. [The three of them grab a leg each and pull the ugly wee guy up into the woods] [They start to bury him] Stevie Jackson: There's someone over there! Stephen Pastel: SHITE! Better distract them [The pair of them leave Stuart to bury the wee guy] [There's two scary hillbilly nutters up the hill a bit, one of them] [has a big gun] Stephen Pastel: What the fuck do you two think you're doing? Nutter1: FUCKIN SHUT IT YOU. [Nutter2. Points the gun at Stephen Pastel. There's a bit of a scuffle.] [Ends up Stevie is tied to a tree with a belt round his neck] Nutter1: Take off yer clothes Stephen Pastel. You gotta a real purty mouth. Look a bit like a cow. I'm gonna shag you. Stephen Pastel: Dinnae! Nutter1: Aye, I'm gonna fuckin shag you. Get yer clothes off now, Or else Nutter2 will shoot you, then I'll still shag you. [Stephen Pastel Strips naked] Stephen Pastel: Ya Bastard. Nutter1: Look a bit like a cow. Moo like a cow, daisy! Stephen Pastel: moo Nutter1: YOU'D BETTER MOO A LOT FUCKING BETTER THAN THAT!MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Stephen Pastel: MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! [Nutter1 arses Stephen Pastel] [Nutter2 looks at Stevie] Nutter2: You're all mine. hehehe. You gotta real purty mouth. Nutter1: Shite! The wee fuckers shot me!! [Nutter1 falls dead. Nutter2 Runs away. Wee Stuart Murdoch appears from behind a tree with a bow and arrow] Stuart Murdoch: Take that you big bad buwwy. Sweven are you ok? Stephen Pastel: NO I'M NOT FUCKING OK. THIS IS YOUR FAULT, YA PRICK. [stephen grabs the bow and arrow off Stuart and shoots Stuart dead.] [Then he puts the bow and arrow to his own head, and shoots himself] [Stevie is left tied to the tree with a belt round his neck. He ] [suffers for a while then dies of oxygen starvation] THE END Love, Christine xx Wee Ugly Cunt: +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Fri Sep 25 17:05:02 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:05:02 -0400 Subject: Sinister: cute little B&S moment Message-ID: so one of the people i live with is a bit of a belle and sebastian fan. i didn't know he had the new album. he knew i had it, tho. anyway, i'm sitting in my kitchen (which is right by his room) reading a book when i hear "sleep the clock around" pouring out of his room. then i went back to my room and couldn't resist putting twattybus on. at first i tried to put it on the same song as him, 'cept they were so out of sync it was painful to hear. so now there's just two people in the same house listening to the same album, but at different parts of it. :) -kerry "if only i could escape and leave a dummy in my place." -bernard butler, "i'm tired." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From WarranderJ at xxx.uk Fri Sep 25 17:10:49 1998 From: WarranderJ at xxx.uk (Warrander John - FML) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 17:10:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: There's Something About Mary Does Las Vegas Message-ID: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B0036CDEB@gateway.finnigan.co.uk> Hi Popkids. I went to see 'There's Something About Mary' last night. Mainly cos I'm a red-blooded, real-man kind of guy and I wanted to see that Cameron Diaz get her kit off and the red hot sex. If that's your bag, you should see it. It's good. If you're a bit of a fey indie bed-wetter and soul-wrenchingly beautiful pop tunes are you're turn-on, then you should go and see it too. Jonathan Richman pops up throughout the film 'performs' some of his crushingly observant, arch "vignettes" about life and love itself. It's great. You'll get out of your bedroom, get a bit of air and maybe even get to see some girlies. The rest of the audience will probably take the piss and laugh at JoJo. If you feel the need to 'have stern words' with them. I'd advise against it. They get out more often and are probably tougher than you. I was going to have words with some people myself. But I was busy with, er, other things. Ever helpfully, Love...John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From arab_strap at xxx.com Fri Sep 25 17:49:34 1998 From: arab_strap at xxx.com (Greg Pallis) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:49:34 PDT Subject: Sinister: A few random rambles Message-ID: <19980925164935.12653.qmail@hotmail.com> Is there to be a "boy with the french cartoon" track on any Arab Strap release? I REALLY want to hear it. All together now: What do you make of the cool set in Falkirk, mumble mumble, you're constanly updating your hit-parade of your ten favourite cute furry animals, etc etc. It could then be followed by lactose intolerant shagging, our favourite non-existant 'strap song. My lanky friend John Gray is soon to appear here, he is much inamoured of my tape copy of sinister, I dispair of ever getting it back. Hmmm.. We all like Ivor Cutler. And vindaloo. For tea. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MctaggartR at xxx.com Fri Sep 25 17:35:11 1998 From: MctaggartR at xxx.com (Mctaggart, Robert) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 17:35:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bossa nova baby Message-ID: Hello, Oh well, I was going to join in the fun of the "black music" debate, but the latest digest just arrived and you've done it all for me. I feel like someone walking in on a pub brawl. Cynthia wrote: >I've got this thing for the brazilians. Maybe you or Ivo can help me out here then. I heard an amazing Brazilian record at a friend's house recently, it's just called "Baby", and it's by one of those people like Gal Costa or Os whatever. It's a girl singing and it's one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard, just pure sunshiney Latin-tinged pop. I gather it's part of a four CD boxed set thing that costs about 60 pounds, but I was wondering if it was available in err...less bulky (and expensive form). Ivo, if you can help me, I may even overlook you publically eyeing up my girlfriend. And you too, Mr so-called Miller. I'm sorry, I couldn't resist this. Il Duce said: >Pop mistakes are just NOT the Duke's bag. but then said: >St Etienne were in fact a one time marvelous Pop combo who too often >were only mediocre, but hey, what the hell. Note the use of the past tense here. I think maybe rumours of The Et's death have been greatly exagerrated. You shouldn't believe everything you read in the music press, you know. But Duke, your error made you look human, and you know what...it suited you. Sarahpoo wrote: >OH WELL THANK YOU MISTER MILLER! I have not seen Heavenly Creatures! >I was notified from chat about your lovely observation, and told the >character that you mention is boring, dull, drab, and a psycho. Thank >you. Actually Sarah, not only is "Heavenly Creatures" a smashing film, but the character in question is truly intense in her intenseness. In fact, the intensity of her intenseness makes Kate Winslett look little more than a SHALLOW FASCIST. I thought she was dead ace, actually. Peter was paying you a compliment. Oh, Peter, you'll be happy to know that I am a right bleeding ponce and I've seen "Strawberries and chocolate" and so I got your joke. Oh sod this, I'm going to Sweden. Love Tag x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kimpostor at xxx.com Fri Sep 25 18:13:14 1998 From: kimpostor at xxx.com (Kimberly Forrette) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: all a student needs to qualify for a increased grant is a nmkpkjlfutumch... Message-ID: <19980925171314.22343.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com> someone please help me.... every time i try to make a plan some fool feels compelled to shit all over it. let me explain... a good friend of mine was supposed to go and purchase tickets to the New York shows on Nov 1 and 2. well guess what, he didn't, so now i'm flying out east from California and i've not got tickets to the show, although i DO have my plane tickets. oh, irony....so on with the begging: ***IF ANYONE OUT THERE HAS TICKETS TO THE NY GIGS AND IS WILLING TO GIVE EM UP, PLEASE LET ME KNOW*** in return, i can offer money, favors (party, sexual or otherwise), a contract for the ownership of my soul drawn up by the representatives of beelzebub himself, a Smurfs record player, an everlasting gobstopper...ANYTHING that will merit parting with two tickets. please email me privately, even if you don't have tickets but you have some crafty idea on how i can get some.... thanks y'all kim _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From superape79 at xxx.com Fri Sep 25 18:13:42 1998 From: superape79 at xxx.com (marcus) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: sinister:Hell on wheels Message-ID: <19980925171342.11830.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com> Hello everybody! I read in the newspaper today that Hell on Wheels will support B&S in their Stockholm gig tomorrow. I don�t now if the name has anything to do with Dog on wheels, but I do now that they have been mentioned in the same articles as B&S a few times and that some of the members in B&S are supposed to like their demo. I saw them playing at a club here in sthlm this summer and they were realy good. The soundchecking guy wore a Bob Dylan so there we have another link between them :) /marcus _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From superape79 at xxx.com Fri Sep 25 18:15:54 1998 From: superape79 at xxx.com (marcus) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: sinister:Hell on wheels Message-ID: <19980925171554.13137.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com> Hello everybody! I read in the newspaper today that Hell on Wheels will support B&S in their Stockholm gig tomorrow. I don�t now if the name has anything to do with Dog on wheels, but I do now that they have been mentioned in the same articles as B&S a few times and that some of the members in B&S are supposed to like their demo. I saw them playing at a club here in sthlm this summer and they were realy good. The soundchecking guy wore a Bob Dylan t-shirt so there we have another link between them :) /marcus _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From james at xxx.com Fri Sep 25 18:54:54 1998 From: james at xxx.com (J Errington) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 18:54:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Mogwai. Message-ID: I know the last mail was supposed to be my last for a time but I had to get a word in (as ever) but the duke said: > Longevity; much as i like Arab Strap and Mogwai, i think the idea that > they'll be of lasting significance in comparison to B&S is twaddle. > Young Team was a good record but hardly made great progress from the > stuff on the compilation, i forget it's name. They are, i feel, a band > that many people name check, and say they love, but whose records these > people will rarely actually play. i should know, i've been kind of > guilty. Well, I'd like to disagree please. As much as I doubt it as a stance I would defend I listen to my mogwai stuff more than I listen to B&S. Or about the same at least. In fact, I'd say the most listened-to CD I own is 'Kicking A Dead Pig.' I listen to the 'Strap less frequently, but a reasonable amount. Anyway, this has to be bye this time. I've got to move to Southampton. WeeJay "Modern capitalism, organising the reduction of all social life to a spectacle, cannot offer any other spectacle than that of our own alienation" james at twopounds.u-net.com (my site kills browsers) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Cabaret/5523/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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Message-ID: hi there, whoever made that point about mogwai records, despite what weejay said, is right, in my case and in the case of lots of people i know, too. while 'young team' and 'ten rapid' are, in my opinion, brilliantly crafted pieces of music, i've never sat and mediated intently on the stuff. mogwai have been for me going-to-sleep music or cleaning-my-room music or on one lovely occasion kissing music. arab strap, same thing, i have yet to get into their record (and i have yet to do that last thing to a.s., looking forward to that). mogwai live, on the other hand, are even more powerful and breathtaking than they are on record... because of this i feel justified to name-check, hey. but name-checking is just silly anyway, so i try not to do it too often. sorry for my pointless posts today, i am at work and don't feel like doing what i'm supposed to. weejay, good luck at uni and smile a little. cheers, stasia anastasia signoretta atlantic records international media relations 1290 avenue of the americas 24th floor new york, ny 10104 212.707.2619 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 'but how can i see stars if my feet are on the ground?' ride ------------- Original Text >From "J Errington" , on 9/25/98 1:54 PM: I know the last mail was supposed to be my last for a time but I had to get a word in (as ever) but the duke said: > Longevity; much as i like Arab Strap and Mogwai, i think the idea that > they'll be of lasting significance in comparison to B&S is twaddle. > Young Team was a good record but hardly made great progress from the > stuff on the compilation, i forget it's name. They are, i feel, a band > that many people name check, and say they love, but whose records these > people will rarely actually play. i should know, i've been kind of > guilty. Well, I'd like to disagree please. As much as I doubt it as a stance I would defend I listen to my mogwai stuff more than I listen to B&S. Or about the same at least. In fact, I'd say the most listened-to CD I own is 'Kicking A Dead Pig.' I listen to the 'Strap less frequently, but a reasonable amount. Anyway, this has to be bye this time. I've got to move to Southampton. WeeJay "Modern capitalism, organising the reduction of all social life to a spectacle, cannot offer any other spectacle than that of our own alienation" james at twopounds.u-net.com (my site kills browsers) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Cabaret/5523/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Julie_Smith at xxx.com Fri Sep 25 21:49:48 1998 From: Julie_Smith at xxx.com (Julie_Smith at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 13:49:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Tape Tree Trauma Message-ID: <01J28BATGJJG8XXCT9@NOTELT.MED.IACNET.COM> Like a good girl, I read every post I could find in the archives about the tape tree but alas could not find what I was looking for. Who's organizing the US tape trade now (if it still exists)? Is it too late to join in? I would be sad, but I'd be able to get over it eventually. So please please someone, let me know what's happening with the tree, either publically or privately. You'll have my undying love and respect. Julie (who had scary layoffs at her work today and would love to distract herself with new, good music) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Sep 25 22:53:38 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 23:53:38 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Doh!! Message-ID: <01bde8ce$f4866f80$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Just a quick apology for using the expression "eat shit, turkey". It was only a joke, but it wasn't really called for, was it? Especially with 980 new listees, some of whom might think I meant it. I stand corrected. I've just seen a nice film, "Happiness". I think it would be suitable for B&S fans, dealing as it does with the lost and the lonely. I laughed a lot, and to top it all, it has Air Supply on the soundtrack. I wonder how Paul's settling in at the nudist colony? Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sat Sep 26 01:18:29 1998 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 17:18:29 PDT Subject: Sinister: i got the rump-shakin flavor with the nasty rhyme Message-ID: <19980926001830.26825.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello! Ahhh,just let me adjust these fairy wings cuties...alas FunkyFunkySeb if only that were true...then i could swoop around and hover outside the window and stare..(it's not just a silly crush first off,he's lovely lovely lovely in that mmm you're so gorgeous i'll do anything i'll kiss you from your feet to where your head begins way) Hey I got a 150 grammmme vinyl The Bow With The Arab Strap..is that good? i have no idea what it means,i already had a copy on cd,i just bought it on vinyl..so you know,the mentioned above could sell it to me and i could have an excuse for gazing upon his lovlieness and stammering and blushing and hiding beneath my hair. hee hee,only my betrothed doctor-weinermobile knows what i look like,because if i'm a fairy,i must hide or else i'll get stepped on... Tara Tara...of course we all need some slinky-soul..i mean,sometimes you have to smack that wee kitten sunset-lovin' boy around and go 'I wanna lay you down by the fiahhhh!' Oh god...En Vogue!! *memories...memmmmories flashing by* when i was little,that and salt-n-pepa were like ALL I listened to! i mean,those girls could so take down mariah carey.. when i rapped along 'my man gives real love and that's why i call him killer,heavy-weight bootknocker whatcha wanna do?'..oh dear,i now know why mother so thankful that stage is over and gladly plays belle and sebastian in the car..oh oh oh my! Fluffy Sarah,you got your fists up with a whole lot people,yes!?...Kenny-Jake,I feel deeply in connection with you over the lion king thing,but sarah is TOUGH. here are some good fighting words,just like salt-n-pepa 'So test my respect,mess around,yeah bitch jump up and get BEAT down' or you could say what Stuey M does when he's feeling inner frustration 'the nest time you try to play me, you might catch a fist to the nose,ho!' Keith,you you should say funky/cool/sexy as fuck a lot more often sorry about all that nonsense,little ones,but thankgod it's the weekend! how good is that! I've been having to make cupcakes all week long,but they sell well yes,i feel happy decorating them with m&m's and sprinkles,is this wrong? i send you all a cupcake kiss rrrrrrrrowwww genevieve xoxxo Trousers first name Stephen? this getting stranger and stranger baby ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From escossia at xxx.br Sat Sep 26 01:57:12 1998 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:57:12 -0300 Subject: Sinister: eh? bossanova? Message-ID: <01bde8e8$989c9fe0$0100007f@localhost> >Suggestions ? Sure. Dig for Red Hot + Rio and Nova Bossa - Red Hot On Verve. >Both are worth listening if you're interested in that kind of sound. More sugestions ? the Crooner http://www.shelflife.com/ Ivo A P Escossia +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Sat Sep 26 02:15:02 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:15:02 EDT Subject: Sinister: It's gettin' funky round here! Message-ID: <96b475b6.360c4016@aol.com> Hello moi luvvers, Barney someone wrote: <> Oh yuk. I'm not going to quote any more of this, or comment either. Curry and Chips, anyone? Then the normally quite sane Mick Mcmick wrote: <> No, but there's loads of people in UK bands of West Indian descent, (which, Mick, is not in India, before you ask.) Or do they not count? sorry kids. I'm just in a bit of a huff. I've had it up to *here* with patronising casting directors today, then I come home to find you all talking complete (no offence) rubbishy ignorant bollocks. Anymore of this and I'll start saying 'this never happened in the old days'. And I'd be right. Heed the words of H!O!P!K!I!N!S!! (Not the ones about Pinteresque pauses, mind) This list is like a fairy bower weaved from finest gossemer, lovely and cosy to sit inside. And if you all start wiggling about in it you'll break it and fall right on your arses. Why has no-one else pointed out the fact that this lovely sweaty beast we call Rrrock n' Rrroll was not: 1) Handed down by God fully formed, 2) nor was it created by Sir Clifford of Richard on a slack Saturday afternoon, after Airwolf while waiting for the pools results to come in (same as 1. really I suppose) It is in fact a development of blues an' stuff, which some of you would call 'black music'. And Belle and Sebby, like it or not, would not exist without good old kick ass rock + soul. Well, maybe they would, but Stevie would be playing a Lute, or something. And Chris would legally be required to change his name to Gawain, whilst the girls would play crumhorns, and the Stuarts would take turns to Morris dance. Richard, in case you're wondering, would be replaced by a dribbling, one eyed dwarf called Snuffhammer, who drinks real ale, and re-enacts the black death every saturday afternoon, on wimbledon common. On his own. Observant readers among you will notice my self aggrandising subject line. Well, it's not, actually I was going to give you all a red hot tip (ouch!). 'It's Getting Funky Round Here' is an knee tremblingly great track that I've had boogying through my head for a couple of weeks now, and I thought I'd tell you all to go and find it. Except I can't remember who performed it. So I can't. It's on a rather tasty compilation called Stax o' soul (classy title), and the whole thing's pretty fantastic, so if that kind of thing floats your boat (or as the cool set are saying, 'butters your muffin'-thanks whoever that was:-) ) go seek and find. Actually, I think it should be compulsory listening for hipsters- anyone who can deny the presence of any element of S!O!U!L! in B&S should have their head examined. Or possibly kicked in. byebye seb 'It's getting funky round here! It's getting funky round here! It's getting funky....funky round here!' 'It's getting funky round here', by someone or other +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erinlew at xxx.com Sat Sep 26 02:47:40 1998 From: erinlew at xxx.com (Erin Lewis) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 18:47:40 PDT Subject: Sinister: tape tree update and a bedtime story (!) Message-ID: <19980926014741.25603.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey kids! I am currently in possession of Brad Whiddon's tape, and it reads like the B&S archives! I finally got to hear Left Banke, Trembling Blue Stars, "She Lives by the Castle" by Felt, "Velocity Girl" by Primal Scream, and just about every other frequently name-dropped band. It's a crash course in Bob & Sybil 101. Katrina mentioned that the Lucksmiths are opening for Boris & Natasha in Germany, which made me think of two seemingly unrelated stories: Story #1: When I was in Australia, and before I met my boyfriend, I had the biggest crush on Mark Monnone from the Lucksmiths, who lived only a few blocks away. He was pudgy and wore spectacles, and I thought he looked like a squishy old Crispin Glover (not unlike a few sinisterines). I baked Mark a vegan chocolate cake, in the hopes that the way to his heart was through his politically aware stomach. He invited me to a concert he was promoting, and I was soooooooo excited that he wanted *me* to be there. I showed up looking cute, and after a few bands played, Mark's side project showed up onstage naked as the day they were born. "Thank God for train curfew!" said I, the first and only time. Mark tried to convince me a week later that nudity was a last-minute decision, but I knew otherwise. He was trying to seduce me, all right. Story #2: Also in Australia, I met a German exchange student named Matthias. I refused to date him, but he lured me into his house with his clothes dryer (a hot commodity in my neighborhood, and I was longing to use the Bounce Outdoor Fresh (TM) fabric softener sheets sent in a care package). After laundry, Matthias tricked me into dinner and told me that he had been watching me for the past couple of months, and that I had "fast-inating ice." This translates roughly in English to "fascinating eyes." After other restaurant customers decided to sing "Song 2" out loud, Matthias asked, "VOO-hoo?" He then proceeded to invade my personal space bubble for roughly an hour before I could free myself from his claws. He admitted it: he was trying to seduce me all right. Mark and Matthias: I hope you fall in love and live happily ever after. You two deserve each other! Thanks to Barbie & Sven for making the love affair possible. Love, Miss Erin ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Yummycats at xxx.com Sat Sep 26 03:25:13 1998 From: Yummycats at xxx.com (Yummycats at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 22:25:13 EDT Subject: Sinister: The truth about tributes Message-ID: <3745514c.360c5089@aol.com> In a message dated 9/24/98 10:29:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, NeilD at ncm.co.uk writes: << Speaking of which, does anyone know of any B&S tribute bands in existence? >> My friend Lolly played Seeing Other People at her piano recital long ago.. kind of waltzy with "Linus and Lucy" mixed in. It's on her webpage at: http://members.aol.com/fakeperson/lolly.html at the very bottom. Pssst: She's not very good :) I have no time to read messages throughout the week. Here it is Friday with 200 messages from Sinister. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From xav at xxx.uk Sat Sep 26 06:40:00 1998 From: xav at xxx.uk (Mark Crutch) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 06:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: One Pez, Two Pez, Red Pez, Blue Pez Message-ID: <199809260540.GAA08533@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> In a fit of sarcasm, Katrina wrote:- > someone who i'm sure is really lovely wrote: >> what about that little tune at the end of 3 6 9, after the final, 4th, >> listed song ends. is it a track in its own right? what's it called? > archives archives faq sinister site jeepster site archives etc etc etc Hmmm... bit of a long title that one - no wornder they left it off the sleeve. Someone else wrote:- > yeah, to agree with Spaceboy, how bad is it when you actually own the > record and you're just using the CD-R for personal use? i didn't mean to > cause such a stir b/c that's what i was talking about. There's a section of copyright law which deals with "fair use" - i.e. not copying more than 5% of a book, etc. It's generally accepted now that copies made as backups are covered by the fair use clause - i.e. if you own the original, and are only using your copy as a backup, or to prevent further damage to the original, you are legally OK. I use this fact all the time to make compilation CDs of tracks that I already own on other CDs. Similarly I intend to record all my old 7" singles onto CD to prevent further wear and tear to them. On another note, bands I like - nah, can't be bothered. I was pleased to see Fairport Convention getting a mention one someone's list, and a couple of mentions for the Violent Femmes. Anyone who hasn't heard the Femmes eponymous first album should definitely do so. Very acoustic, but with a great raw edge. Finally, and exceptionally late due to information overload, many thanks to those who have offered to find out some more about Pez body parts for me. I wait with baited baity things for any information you can supply. As for those that criticised my patronage of Woolies to buy Pez, I should point out that my local independent Pez supplier went under when Thornton's opened. It's a choice between new, Woolies sold digital Pez, or no Pez at all. If anyone has any old analogue Pez that they need duplicated in digital form, let me know. I'll do you a copy provided you promise to only use it for your own enjoyment, and that you will buy the official digital re-release of the analogue Pez when it is re-released next year. I don't want to be the source of a Pez-legging ring that diverts money away from the independent Pez suppliers. Xav -- xav at compsoc.man.ac.uk http://www.compsoc.man.ac.uk/~xav "It hath whirred into life" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Sat Sep 26 10:46:57 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 11:46:57 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Um Bongo Press Report Message-ID: <01bde932$9b1abfa0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> All my messages begin: >#################################################### >This message was not delivered to >johnb at apr.co.uk >Sender was informed with a copy of this message >#################################################### I don't know if it's my fault or not. I'm sure Paul would know, but even as we speak he's smearing coconut oil on his Captain Mainwaring and settling down in his hammock with a good book and a delicious tetrabrik of Um Bongo with a bendy Ren and Stimpy straw. Back to business. I certainly didn't mean to suggest all the things that it has been suggested I was suggesting as regards the black music thread. It's a thorny issue and I should have just shut up. But I didn't, and I apologise for any offence or consternation I may have caused. The reason I don't like the expression "black music" is because I once watched a documentary about Spanish group Greta y los Garbos and they said that their main influence was black music. At that moment, something in my brain slipped its moorings and is yet to return to safe harbour, if that is the correct nautical expression. I certainly didn't wish to accuse anyone of racism, or non-racism for that matter. Of course, the term "race war" was used as a joke, like with "class war" before. "Race tiff" would be more appropriate, but even that's a bit strong. I'm sorry boys and girls. You know that footballer, Reiziger? He looks like a monkey who's just come down from the trees. According to someone with a name like a famous car.... McRagtag wrote: Oh, Peter, you'll be happy to know that I am a right bleeding ponce and I've seen "Strawberries and chocolate" and so I got your joke. Phew! That's a relief. It was a good joke, wasn't it? Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Sat Sep 26 11:50:03 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 11:50:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: RE: sinister-digest V2 #374 In-Reply-To: <199809250640.HAA10636@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000901bde93b$6a9c1c80$96567ec2@whelan> The normally patient and quiet creature of fluffiness which is Sarah wrote... > That stewpid stinking tatty old bucket full to the brim of stale pee and > quiche scrapings, otherwise known as the delightful serial thriler > Mister Miller OR EVEN! the Bobby Chariot stylee largin' it dude wrote > this : > > >Incidentally, the > >other girl in the film, Pauline, reminds me of our very own Fluffy Little > >Sarah. > > OH WELL THANK YOU MISTER MILLER! I have not seen Heavenly Creatures! I > was notified from chat about your lovely observation, and told the > character that you mention is boring, dull, drab, and a psycho. Thank > you. At least I'm not sung about in a Space song!!! Doh and you smell of > poo. *waves arms about in comedy scouser mode* aye aye, calm down calm down. 87) All the same though, I can vouch that the fluffster is never boring, dull or drab. 87) > And I like the Super Furry Animals, Gorkys Zygotic Mynci, Melys, > Anhefren, Joy Divison, Mad kennys all night drinker, belle and sebastian > and Hawkwind. Ish. Hawkwind, I hope that's a Young Ones related joke ?. Is everyone supposed to be listing their fave music then I take it. Ok here goes, SFA, GZM, Melys, Felt, Julian Cope/Teardrop Explodes, The Crocketts (shut it Fluffy), The The, Stump, Half Man Half Biscuit and Power of Dreams. Err, is that too many, only I didn't see the post that started this off, so I don't know how many i'm supposed to list. byyyyyyyyeeeeeee Gary +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From leggattn at xxx.edu Sat Sep 26 12:04:23 1998 From: leggattn at xxx.edu (N Leggatt) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 04:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: It's gettin' funky round here! In-Reply-To: <96b475b6.360c4016@aol.com> Message-ID: >It is in fact a development of blues an' stuff, which some of you would call 'black music'. And Belle and Sebby, like it or not, would not exist without good old kick ass rock + soul< i don't remember anyone suggesting otherwise. the discussion was about the lack of black artists in the fave lists which everyone complained about. then some people, including me, started complaining about the state of modern black music in america. then others started pointing out that they loved black music and said absence did not in point of fact exist. then others started accusing others of being too politically correct, for reasons i cannot begin to fathom. since the poster above puts the term in scare quotes, 'black music' in my book anyhow is simply shorthand for music by black artists - music created by black people. sorry if anyone finds anything racist in that. i personally find it offensive when all black music of whatever genre is labelled r&b or (much worse) "urban". perhaps we should all stick to genre labels. or not. whichever. N __ "Go! you may call it madness, folly You shall not chase my gloom away! There's such a charm in melancholy I would not if I could be gay." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tangent at xxx.net Sat Sep 26 11:09:39 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 11:09:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: It's gettin' funky round here! References: <96b475b6.360c4016@aol.com> Message-ID: <360CBD63.B383F929@lineone.net> seb was in a huff because of casting directors and took it all out on rock'n'roll, which is fine by me any day. We oppose all rock'n'roll, after all. Actually he didn't join in on the choruses of 'no more rock and roll for you', but that can be forgiven due to genevieve's rampant all but virtual fairy snogs. See, i'm jealous now. But hmmm, rock'n'roll, seems to me that Pop is in fact much more complex than what Seb makes out, because really, seems to me that the whole Blues thing in the USA was as a result of a black african meets white american collision. True, the white culture being the dominant one was being attacked by the Blues, and then later by roots black r'n'r, but what really made rock'n'roll fly, what really made Pop come about was the way Country and traditional white Folk music weaved their magical spells into the tapestry. And yes, I'm being neccessarily simple here because i have to do the housework in a minute. You can't say that Pop, or even Rock'n'Roll is traditionally, or 'originally' a Black or a White cultural form, because it's a result of collision and collusion. Besides which, at the point we have reached now, it's completely irrelevent, given that cross-fertilisation can be so transparent and difficult to spot in any obvious way. And thank goodness too. That's what's great about B&S to be honest, they blend so many disparate elements and make music that DOES sound like no-one else on earth. Mayve you youngsters have no idea how seldom that happens, maybe some oldstersz too, but hell, me, i figure i know only too well. I'm currently listening to the Josef K collection on Marina, and this is another case in point: although their inspirations are also clear, they sound like NO-ONE alive or dead. Truly inspirational. Keep the faith, the duke Sorry if this come out twice... it's NOT my fault!!! -- 'all of our dreams are dying of overdoses' Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sun Sep 27 01:35:25 1998 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 17:35:25 PDT Subject: Sinister: wee little man Message-ID: <19980927003525.12381.qmail@hotmail.com> hello widdle people, Christine,that was really interesting story! i saw 'pecker' today and it was much funnier than 'there's something about mary'it's nice to see edward furlong back,he's a cutie plus he's intelligent and doesn't have that hick laugh.. ohgod stuart murdoch sighting today! or else it's stuart murdoch's lovechild or something...outside the chateau laurier,in a kilt,playing the bagpipes,blue eyes and all..and he wasn't dirty like most buskers i had to pretend i dropped my toonie,etc etc..it's hard to be subtle,yes my friends...even if he was blowing into a jug,i still would've gave him money sigh, genevieve zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Sun Sep 27 01:43:35 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:43:35 -0400 Subject: Sinister: i don't know why i'm telling you this Message-ID: so a strange thing just happened. i went to go look in the archives for the "century of elvis" lyrics because i wanted to show them to a friend. so i find them, print them out, and then read them over only to discover that they were posted to this list on my 19th birthday. i'll just consider it to be a belated birthday present. :) -kerry "better dead than to be stuck alone" -the jesus and mary chain, "bullet lovers" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From oldhamcounty14 at xxx.com Sun Sep 27 04:29:29 1998 From: oldhamcounty14 at xxx.com (jane mclellan) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:29:29 PDT Subject: Sinister: hang out before the show????? Message-ID: <19980927032929.14375.qmail@hotmail.com> hey all; I was wondering if anyone/everyone who is going to the Toronto B&S show wanted to get together before the show. We could all do something. We could have a 'sinister' picnic! it might be a little cold.. anyone who is interested please e-mail me! jane :^P ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nicola4230 at xxx.com Sun Sep 27 07:20:27 1998 From: Nicola4230 at xxx.com (Nicola4230 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 02:20:27 EDT Subject: Sinister: Has he ever seen Dondi? Message-ID: <48e84e18.360dd92b@aol.com> Well, like it or not, Belle and Sebastian are headed for the big time. Why, because they are in this week's issue of People magazine!!! For those of you who don't know, People magazine is, hmm how to sum it up? well, Satan's own entertainment weekly sounds about right. A sycophantic celebrity rag that normally reports on critical news such as what Cameron Diaz wore last week, the latest issue has a review of "TBWTAS". I'm not going to bother transcribing it, because it just says what most of the others do - "good lyrics, beautiful songs touching melodies blah blah" and anyway you wouldn't read it if I did. But they did mention that "sometimes the band gets a little too snide for its own good" specifically targeting "Seymour Stein" which is "about skipping a meeting with a record company exec" and then at the end of the article they say something about the "funny name" of the band. Maybe it's just me, but it seems "seymour stein" gets misinterpreted a lot, cos when i listen to it I feel sorry for the guy... there he's stuck washing dishes and bemoaning the loss of his lil chiquita while the rest of the band gets wined and dined down the road... anyway if you're interested go check out People. (And can I just point out that the only reason I was reading People is I was stuck in line at Safeway and the guy in front of me had snatched the last available issue of "US Weekly News and World Report.") tata, Tara PS Erm, apologies if any of you work for People magazine. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hugh.friel at xxx.net Sun Sep 27 12:16:40 1998 From: hugh.friel at xxx.net (hugh.friel at xxx.net) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 12:16:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: no more room Message-ID: <360E1E97.B7E55808@mail.which.net> no more room for all this mail, must...unsubscribe. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seaborne at xxx.nl Sun Sep 27 14:46:39 1998 From: seaborne at xxx.nl (Koen) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 14:46:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Everithing is different from normal Message-ID: <000f01bdea1d$419e81a0$65866dc2@computer> As promised my translation of a piece on B&S in a big Dutch newspaper. Dutchisms and spelling mistakes are my responsibility. The last paragraph is missing, by request of Jeepster. It's news on a local problem which could cause unneccessary panic and on the solution of which is being worked on. Koen The answer to the slump in the British music industry is called Belle & Sebastian. A group of eight, led by the timid frontman Stuart Murdoch, who has a sidejob working as a verger an who sings in a churchchoir on Sundays. Belle & Sebastian offer comfort with softly sung songs and quiet orchestrations with cello and recorder. "Promises of fame, promises of fortune..." The British record industry is in despair. When things were finally looking up thanks to millionsellers by Oasis, Blur, Radiohead and the Prodigy, it's all starting to collapse again. The big companies are all dropping their hastily contracted guitar bands, and Creation, which was set to become a major player thanks to Oasis, is laying off personnel in droves. The cause, according to several British papers and magazines: no-one is spending money on records and cd's anymore. The public has lost its interest in homegrown popmusic as quickly as it was gained, a few years ago. There are no new mayor talents, and Pulp for instance sold only a quarter of the amount the marketing department had predicted of "This Is Hardcore". It's all very sad, especially for the countless bands which were lured to the record companies with big promises and are already dropped again. Who do we turn to - when Oasis' hedonistic boys' music doesn't suffice, when the endless decrypting of Radioheads "Ok Computer" leads to nothing and the cartoon figures of the Prodigy annoyingly pop up everywhere. Who do we turn to? Belle & Sebastian. The eight of them have named themselves after the novel "Belle et Sebastie" by Madame Cecile Aubrey, which was turned into a television series in the late sixties. They're from Scotland and do everything different than usual. They don't do interviews - well, the drummer and trumpet player are known to have done some, but the creative brains, singer/composer Stuart Murdoch, maintains a steadfast silence. He prefers his job as a verger and singing in a church choir on Sunday mornings. Photographic sessions are another of Belle & Sebastian's don'ts. There's only one publicity shot, about eight people are on it, but whoever they may be, Stuart Murdoch isn't on it. Their first record "Tigermilk" was released in 1995 in a pressing of a thousand copies and sold out immediately. Without any form of publicity the group had already created a buzz in Glasgow. Big record companies were ignored, the group signed a deal with newly formed label "Jeepster Records" from London, which released the album "If You're Feeling Sinister" in 1996. At first it was mainly Stuart Murdochs voice which attracted attention. Tender, sometimes almost whispering, he sounded like a cross between Nick Drake and Colin Blunstone. But it also had intricate melodies and acoustic arranging to slowly fall in love with. And the lyrics of course, the songs having titles like "Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying" and "Judy And The Dream Of Horses". "Nobody writes them like they used to/ So it might as well be me" Murdoch sings and he is right. It took a while before the pure beauty of Belle & Sebastian was appreciated in Great Britain, but even though the press are still muttering about the lack of interviews, they are almost universally cherished. And now September 7, the day their third album "The Boy With The Arab Strap" is released. The band is playing the Shepherd's Bush Empire in London tonight. The venue, with a capacity of 3000, had sold out within a day, even without an advertisement. An announcement on the Internet was sufficient to cause a run on the tickets, even though the public hadn's heard a single note from the new album. "The Boy With The Arab Strap" is a little musical miracle. Murdoch's arrangements are even more refined. He gives ample space to cello, violin, trumpet and, how sweet, recorder. And he has a sense of humor; you can't keep from laughing when a bagpipe suddenly appears at the end of "Sleep The Clock Around", a paean to lazying about. No sign of a bagpipe in London though. When the group takes the stage, an hour late and full of nerves, and begins with a cautious "Simple Things" it becomes clear that Belle & Sebastian have no trouble reproducing their refined sound live. Stuart Murdoch and his crew don't make an effort to impress. The sound is whisperingly soft and the songs caress the listener like a spring breeze. Celloist Isobel Campbell, in school uniform, gets the change to lisp her own song "Is It Wicked Not To Care?" and Stevie Jackson gets to sing two songs too, including the hilaric "Seymour Stein". Seymour Stein is the man from record company Sire, who has launched Madonna's career and gave the Smiths a recording contract in the States. He wanted to sign Belle & Sebastian too and invited the band to dinner in Scotland. "Promises of fame, promises of fortune" Jackson sings, who couldn't attend the dinner because he had to go to his dishwashing job that night. The band didn't sign with Sire, but with Matador. "Have a nice flight home/ It's a good day for flying" are the parting words to Stein. Stuart Murdoch sings the rest of the songs in an almost apologizing way. It's as if he wants to say: well, I'm doing my thing here but I can imagine you're bored senseless. It's with relief that he hides himself behind the keyboards to do their price number: "The Boy With The Arab Strap". In the pub next to the venue the fans had had a chance to study the lyrics to the album which they were finally able to buy that day. It doesn't get clear who that Boy With The Arab Strap is. Is it Aidan Moffat after all, the singer from the Scottish band Arab Strap, with whom celloist Isobel Campbell has sung. Only writer Murdoch knows the answer, but he keeps silent. He does mutter something about "the other band" in the introduction of the song. A gig by a band of which you don't know the faces (like the Residents) can be a disappointment. But Belle & Sebastian keep the mystery that shrouds them intact, even on stage. Fans get enough material tonight to bother each other with on the Internet: why did they start that late, why no encore, and what was the meaning of tonight's closer, a cover of France Gall's "Poupee De Cire, Poupee De Son"? Gijsbert Kamer / De Volkskrant 25-9-1998 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pjmiller at xxx.es Sun Sep 27 14:25:55 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:25:55 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Ayr Utd slip up at home, Villa stay top! Message-ID: <01bdea1a$5b99d760$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Nice to see that racial harmony has returned to the list. Ebony and Ivory and all that. Duke was quite sensible, I thought. Apart from his evident dislike of Bill Haley and his Comets. It was my mother-in-law who said that about Reiziger, but I couldn't write that because the missus was in the room and would probably give me a thick ear if she knew I was making fun of her mum in front of thousands of strangers. It's Les Dawson's fault. Perhaps we're all getting our own messages twice, but nobody else's. Totally freaky situation. The real reason for this message is to warn all my e-chums against going to see the film "Snake Eyes" starring Nicholas Cock Cage. It's the biggest pile of shit I've ever seen, part from "Godzilla". I thought Brian De Palma was supposed to be good, but he appears to be in league with THE MAN. "Central Do Brasil" is much better, and so is "The Acid House" (B&S considerations aside) and "Happiness" and "After Life" from Japan. I would heartily recommend them all if anyone were to ask me. That's it now, film festival over. It was queuetastic. Nice to see FunkySeb living up to his name with the cryptically named Black Nasty. The song in question is indeed a whopping great stomper of a tune. They used to be called Nazty, but changed their name to confuse the enemy. Wot no news from Sweden? David, I was denied access to the on-line shop. I think it was the fault of Microsoft IE4, but I thought you might like to know. I was only going to fill up my virtual shopping trolley and then put it all back on the shelves anyway, because I haven't got a credit card, but I wanted to play. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Sun Sep 27 15:46:46 1998 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgal) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 07:46:46 PDT Subject: Sinister: sthlm gig!! Message-ID: <19980927144646.24517.qmail@hotmail.com> oh my oh my, I must say last nights gig was the most wonderful thing I've ever experienced. The meeting before the show was alos great, thanx you loevely sinister people who came, it brightened my day:) but as for the show... I've never seen such silent, alomost hiding joy in my life, The band seemed so happy to play fo us. Bu hey what can they feel we were the best clappers weren't we?? I wish it could have been going on longer but..sadly not, well I had the time of my life..and yes I cried.. I just cried of you..when they played space boys dream I though of englad and uk..god I have to go back..it's been two years and I miss all my family and friends...have to start saving I guess... so...I am without words today..still in a wobbly state of mind..joy to all you people who came and brightened my day..thanx.. hugs becka # go and have a peek at my page it's constantly developing, http://www.angelfire.com/me/Mizzy # ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Sun Sep 27 15:49:29 1998 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgal) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 07:49:29 PDT Subject: Sinister: record shop in glasgow.. Message-ID: <19980927144930.4032.qmail@hotmail.com> hello all my friend and myabe myslef soon are going to scotland..now we are curious..does anybody know what the record shop is called where a member of belle works?? were kinda curios..and we'd also like to go to the cemetary, catherdral where one of the members works.. my friend has his grannie in glasgow..we thought perhaps these places are nearby where she lives.. well take care all.. and please help someone.. becka*huggles* # go and have a peek at my page it's constantly developing, http://www.angelfire.com/me/Mizzy # ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From g.gregorini at xxx.it Sun Sep 27 16:31:57 1998 From: g.gregorini at xxx.it (Giuseppe Gregorini) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:31:57 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Recently updated UK guitar pop page Message-ID: <004801bdea2b$f7cde0c0$cb54cfc1@mod005k1.mo.nettuno.it> Hi, just today I updated my site. Anyone interested in Sarah records, early creation records, el records and others click on: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/8926/index.htm Bye Giuseppe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mkl206 at xxx.edu Sun Sep 27 17:54:04 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 12:54:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: spies!!!! Message-ID: At 2:46 PM 9/27/98, Koen wrote: >A gig by a band of which you don't know the faces (like the Residents) can >be a disappointment. But Belle & Sebastian keep the mystery that shrouds >them intact, even on stage. Fans get enough material tonight to bother >each other with on the Internet: why did they start that late, why no >encore, and what was the meaning of tonight's closer, a cover of France >Gall's "Poupee De Cire, Poupee De Son"? > so now i'm a bit nervous. who are you???? speak to us!!!! obvdiously, there's a dutch journalist hiding around here, taking notes on our every word. so don't say anything you don't want everyone in the netherlands to know. and now that we're on the subject... apparently there are a hell of a lot of people who read the archives and aren't on th elist. whihc means that any one of our charming posts are being read by potentially over a thousand people. which is scary, but also very fun as i like to command everyone's attention. look at me!!!! i never posted ink polaroids of the picnic did i? well, you'll get a better idea of how it was anyway if you go to http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/picnicpics.html there you will see us frolic and fall over bicycles (or the aftermath of that) though i'm afraid that we still have no photos of any of the chinese yoyo wars. damn. xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Sun Sep 27 19:46:39 1998 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 11:46:39 PDT Subject: Sinister: then I get refreshed by her cold cold stare Message-ID: <19980927184639.28236.qmail@hotmail.com> That's Jonathan Richman in that movie? Wow. I thought it was the directors or something casting themselves into their own movie. I had a suspicion, but it looked too goofy, and I really wanted to get out of the theater quickly when it was over, I think. I was the one who started the race war.... though it's been fun watching the clumsy ebonization of ordinarily-twee B+S posts, I don't know, I think the point was a little flubbed.... I guess the fact that that barrier, or whatever you want to call it, still exists to a large extent irks me at least as much as the lack of really loud bands on the list. I don't know. I listened to Prolapse this morning and it was good but I find it rare that I want to listen to bonecrushingly loud music anymore. Could be school, or age, or culture tide. I wonder when that will be back in style again. I heard Bob Mould perform a rap/jungle song yesterday and it literally broke my heart. It was at one of those silly listening posts and I suddenly felt very ashamed to be listening to it. Stiffen up, tender souls, for the Belle and Sebastian speedgarage album is on the way. On the other hand last week, 1500 cd's into my collection, I bought my first Beastie Boys album and it's the best album I've heard this year, pretty much. So there goes my race theory. I still feel like a Long Island whiteboy frat-ape driving around listening to the BeeBee's at top volume, but really, I have no choice. Oh, and big up (ha ha) to whoever gave props to Lauryn Hill... her new album is phenomenal, really, don't cheat yourselves everyone. The new record finally made sense to me today. Hurray. All I really had to do is turn it up. I think it is, however, unhealthy that all the band thinks about these days is the biz and I don't mean markie if you know what I mean. -MF "I go to bakeries all day long,there's a lack of sweetness in my life" -JoJo ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grabutcho at xxx.com Sun Sep 27 22:16:47 1998 From: grabutcho at xxx.com (Julien Boeldieu) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 14:16:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: following my own star... Message-ID: <19980927211647.19440.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> Saturday september 26, I was walking quietly in the Clignancourt flea-market, following my own star, when suddenly my eyes were caught by a book. And almost for free, the day of my twenty-five, with bright and wet eyes I became the child I used to be... The book is called "Belle et S�bastien". Incredibly, it contains C�cile Aubry's dedication... "Happiness is a warm gun". (**John Lennon**) Love you all, Julien, the happy child who has nothing but his love to give. PS. Do you know that C�cile Aubry wrote many novels with S�bastien ? Well, the band could have choosen : Sebastian among men A summer for Sebastian Sebastian and the wild horse Sebastian and the white eagle Sebastian and the big lost dog Hmmmmmm... not so great, isn't it ? == "Je ne remets jamais � demain ce que je peux faire le surlendemain" ** Alphonse Allais ** _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ciaran at xxx.net Sun Sep 27 22:12:02 1998 From: ciaran at xxx.net (ciaran at xxx.net) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:12:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: never mind the buzzcocks Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980927221202.0079bb70@mail.clara.net> hi did anyone happen to see this weeks "Never MTB"? It was a real pile of crap. I mean I do like Neil Hannon, but this show you seems to make people devoid of any charm. Crap scripts and crap c-list comic's. I must get a social life, and stop watching these program's. must go Maxium bob is on. C. ps Rebecka popgal nice site. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Mon Sep 28 01:33:10 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid Dossinger) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 20:33:10 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I was looking at the black and white world Message-ID: <360ED946.A86340D0@bigfoot.com> No Belle and Sebastian content here. Just some comments on the, ahem, issues of the day. > Anyone who hasn't heard the Femmes > eponymous first album should definitely do so. Very acoustic, but with a > great raw edge. > I was pretty shocked to read this, but then I noticed the "uk" in the email address and suddenly it all made sense. Apparently, this album is not so well known outside of the US. You'd have a tough time finding a white American between the ages of 18 and 30 who doesn't know the mid section of "Kiss Off" by heart. > i personally find it offensive when all black music of whatever genre is > labelled r&b or (much worse) "urban". > I have NEVER heard anyone categorize "all black music of whatever genre" as R&B. The label of "R&B" was applied to be more inclusive of a particular kind of music. In Billboard, there used to be "Black" charts, which they wisely changed to R&B when they noticed George Michael (he's white, you know) at the top of the Black Album chart. The term "black music" is innacurate...music should always be defined by its sound, not by who is making it. What is Jamiroquai? Or Living Colour? Or Chocalate Genius? Or Tracy Chapman? Are the Beastie Boys hip-hop and the Wu-Tang Clan black music? It doesn't make any sense. I guess we should start putting Neal McCoy, Nat King Cole, Ghostface Killah and TLC in the same section of the record store. And you'd never find a store that would put those all in the R&B section. As far as the term "urban" goes, that's just a demographic. And it's pretty much impossible to argue with. The markets for R&B and hip-hop are overwhelmingly in urban areas. That's all it is. The facts, ma'am. But what do I know? I just shop in the "White Music" section of the record store where Belle & Sebastian are cozied up with Metallica and Shania Twain. Snow white, Reid Oh, and I'd just like to nominate Richard Colburn as King of the Snare Fill. Sure, he relies on brushes a little too much, but damn if he can't crank the snare when needs a good cranking. -- "I dreamt I had to go to Mars. I'm always getting on about going to Mars through the day, but faced with the reality of it, in a dream, I was terrified." -Stuart David -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmurphy at xxx.Edu Mon Sep 28 02:23:00 1998 From: jmurphy at xxx.Edu (Jessica Murphy) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 21:23:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: the femmes Message-ID: Reid says, "You'd have a tough time finding a white American between the ages of 18 and 30 who doesn't know the mid section of "Kiss Off" by heart." Very true. It's definitely on my own memory-soundtrack of senior year in high school. The Violent Femmes and the Beastie Boys' "License to Ill" were in constant rotation at parties. One of the best moments from the whole short-lived series "My So-Called Life" was Claire Danes' character dancing and singing along with the Femmes' "Blister in the Sun" in front of her bedroom mirror. Reid: "... where Belle & Sebastian are cozied up with Metallica and Shania Twain." Ooh, I shudder to think... jessica m +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From EvnDando at xxx.com Mon Sep 28 07:09:02 1998 From: EvnDando at xxx.com (EvnDando at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 02:09:02 EDT Subject: Sinister: hello please dont delete this Message-ID: <82912052.360f27fe@aol.com> Hello, you may not know me but i just wanted to say thank you to the people on this list and the people that write neat stories and send them for everyone to read really they re great and i dont know why people get mad about how much mail they get i love it i really do its so neat you learn lots of new things or mebbe sometimes you laugh whatever the response is it should be pleasurable or nice or what have you and with the archives i mean its no big deal with all the new people the questions are new anyways so yeah whatever i dunno i was just kinda bored you know i didnt have any questions or stories or poems or lists or jokes or etc. etc. so yeah thats it thank you alot if you read this blah, paul ps whos the girl in the picture gallery with the teletubby and the neat sunglasses i gueth her name is beth well hello beth you re great +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From leggattn at xxx.edu Mon Sep 28 08:19:19 1998 From: leggattn at xxx.edu (N Leggatt) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: I was looking at the black and white world In-Reply-To: <360ED946.A86340D0@bigfoot.com> Message-ID: ...it seemed so exciting. > It doesn't make any sense. I guess we should start putting Neal McCoy, Nat King Cole, Ghostface Killah and TLC in the same section of the record store. And you'd never find a store that would put those all in the R&B section.< this is exactly what i was arguing against. as i said, i used the term black music as shorthand for music by black artists since, after all, that's what the original (seemingly so innocuous) comment was about - the lack of black artists on the lists here. your experience is obviously not universal in not seeing the term r&b applied to all black (american) music - i have, or i wouldn't have said it. and you are also wrong about a music store not placing the artists this way. i've seen a variety of black artists like those - prince, public enemy, jimi hendrix - all in the same section of an - ahem - urban los angeles tower records, about ten years ago. so, living color? black music. beastie boys? white music. for the original intent, that is, of talking about the lack of black artists, on these lists here. and so forth. > As far as the term "urban" goes, that's just a demographic. And it's pretty much impossible to argue with. The markets for R&B and hip-hop are overwhelmingly in urban areas. That's all it is. The facts, ma'am.< gee, i hate to be repetitive, but i didn't say the term didn't exist or was baseless, i said i found it offensive. i don't find anything "impossible to argue with." the term "urban" implies, to me, "poor" and a host of other social classifications which don't belong (for me) in marketing music. but that's just me, that's just the way i interpret it. maybe belle and sebastian should be called "college dorm," and michael bolton "suburban duplex." not a bad idea. N __ "Go! you may call it madness, folly You shall not chase my gloom away! There's such a charm in melancholy I would not if I could be gay." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Sep 28 10:30:00 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:30:00 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Journalist Resource Centre Message-ID: <01bdeac2$90de88a0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> I think that's the first time I've been mentioned in a Dutch newspaper. What about the rest of you? I think it's nice to see that journalists have discovered our little treasure trove of useful facts, and I think we should all make an effort to ensure that everything we send in to the list is entirely true. Honey of Belle and Sebastian had his original doctoral thesis, an in-depth study of the possibilty of a war beyond the stars between the Clangers and Ken Dodd's Diddy Men, and the results of such a catastrophe on the earth's core, rejected outright by his university supervisors. However, a phone call from Jimmy Carter saved the day, and Paul's research went on to form the backbone of Ronald Reagan's so-called Star Wars policy in the mid-eighties. The experience served Paul well when he wrote "You Made Me Forget My Dreams" for the forthcoming LP "Gravy Monica". Has anyone seen that nudie photo of Stuart Murdoch in this week's Dinkle Express? What was that censored paragraph all about? Nothing dirty, I hope. School uniform? You all kept that one very quiet. Mind you, there were a lot of comments about how delightfully scrumptious Isobel looked, so I should have guessed. Third from the left on the Black and White Minstrel Show, Bobby Chariot PS: Be careful when buying modern up-to-date Bossa Nova albums, they are often a cunning plan for Sting to enter your house, trojan horse style. Blue Brazil vols 1 and 2 are quite nice, plenty of drum solos and a good way to introduce yourself to the delights of the Milton Banana Trio. A lot of it sounds like the soundtrack to "That Riviera Touch" starring the incomparable Eric and Ernie. Highly recommended. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Mon Sep 28 11:59:19 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (rap101) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:59:19 +0100 () Subject: Sinister: Hums Message-ID: Thought I'd sneak a message in before all the Americans get up. I got a bit scared of the list for a while there what with all the bitchin' going on, but I'm back to bore you all anew. Are newbies even less justified in being boring than old'uns? Too bad if so. Why do I think that 700 people want to listen to me at all anyway? Is it wicked not to care? What's the meaning of life? Actually, yesterday morning at the crack of dawn (well, 10.30) two missionaries turned up on my doorstep and asked me that very question. I mean, really. They were all 'what makes you happy?' and 'God loves you' and I was just too sleepy to cope. So I went back to bed after a while and listened to TARTYBOYS and all was back to normal. I kept getting funny looks today as I was humming b&s toons all the way here. I worry about myself sometimes. It's good to know there are people out there (ie YOU lot) who are equally obsessed. Luv and moss growing, Archel x PS: Is the guy in the photo gallery who reckons he's Patrick McNee still around? Respect to you if so. And death to Ralph Fiennes, the dirty upstart. PPS: Great to read a bit of Simon Armitage last week. I've met him. Top bloke. (Plus he has the sexiest voice ever bar Stuart David's.) PPPS: Reply to me someone. :) ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From komakino75 at xxx.com Mon Sep 28 12:13:32 1998 From: komakino75 at xxx.com (Loik Amis) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 04:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19980928111332.24798.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com> Hello all of you. Sorry to intrude, I'm new to this list, and I'm desperately looking for an information. As I'm not lucky enough to own a copy of Tiger Milk, I tought I could just ask you, and see if someone cares enough to answer. To whom is Tiger Milk dedicated? Thanks a lot for your answer. Millions of thanks it is quick... Loik, a french adorer of Belle And Sebastian _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From u22rc at xxx.uk Mon Sep 28 12:22:08 1998 From: u22rc at xxx.uk (Millionnaire Bruce Wayne) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 12:22:08 +0100 (BST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: unsubscribe sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Mon Sep 28 10:34:10 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 10:34:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ayr Utd slip up at home, Villa stay top! References: <01bdea1a$5b99d760$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Message-ID: <360F5812.1D382589@jeepster.co.uk> PJMiller wrote: > David, I was denied access to the on-line shop. I think it was the fault of > Microsoft IE4, but I thought you might like to know. I was only going to > fill up my virtual shopping trolley and then put it all back on the shelves > anyway, because I haven't got a credit card, but I wanted to play. > > Peter IE4 is a bugger, microsoft have added some weird stuff to it that keeps causing 'bad quantity change' errors. i'd convert the shop to java, except IE4 is even worse with java. anyhow, there are two links to the on-line shop, one is for the secure server and should be used first as it is totally secure (you may have trouble with this if your browser doesn't conform to the world-wide standards for SSL security certificates). https://secure.jeepster.co.uk/cgi-bin/Web_store/web_store.cgi if you have trouble with that (if your browser doesn't like the security certificates) then simply use the other link to the non-secure version. your info is still encrypted but is considered vunerable between your computer and our server. http://www.jeepster.co.uk/cgi-bin/Web_store/web_store.cgi both versions of the shop are identical except for the security aspects. we've found that netscape is the friendliest browser to use for shopping, less errors and stuff. if you HAVE to use IE4 then be cautious as there's little errors all over that the browser seems to produce. if you do encounter any errors please let me know how it happened as i've not been able to reproduce any of the errors yet and don't know where to start fixing them as a result. thanks ;) david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From u22rc at xxx.uk Mon Sep 28 12:26:42 1998 From: u22rc at xxx.uk (Millionnaire Bruce Wayne) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 12:26:42 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Apology Message-ID: Sorry, I got confused. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From efauquem at xxx.com Mon Sep 28 12:49:50 1998 From: efauquem at xxx.com (Eric Fauquembergue) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 04:49:50 PDT Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk : who is it dedicated to ? Message-ID: <19980928114950.17010.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi, I'd like to know who the Tigermilk LP is dedicated to. Anyone with the original LP or a pointer to a WWW ressource where I could find full Tigermilk sleeve information, please help me ! Eric ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cja1000 at xxx.uk Mon Sep 28 12:54:28 1998 From: cja1000 at xxx.uk (Chris) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 12:54:28 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: haiku Message-ID: Woke up at 3am this morning feeling very cynical about the list. I've been thinking about this for several days now - since I got 80 lists of peoples favourite bands in one day - and my thoughts seem to have crystallised. However, you don't all want to hear a long term lurker saying 'Oh it's not what it used to be' and generally whinging, so I've put my thoughts into the form of Haiku. These are not for Stevie T.'s Haiku competition; I'm saving my best ones for that.... Where can I get a copy of Tigermilk from? Thank you for your help. Not enough hard rock on this list. I suggest we listen to Prolapse. Does anyone have a spare ticket for New York please? Please. Please. Please. Pleeeeeeeease. Whither the PopGob? Chris +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Mon Sep 28 13:12:40 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 13:12:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk : who is it dedicated to ? References: <19980928114950.17010.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <360F7D38.32918244@jeepster.co.uk> For everyone's info, this is for a french competition to win tickets for a b&s gig, the answer is in the FAQ on the jeepster site; http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/faq/index.htm if anyone else asks, just point 'em there ;) -- Eric Fauquembergue wrote: > > Hi, > > I'd like to know who the Tigermilk LP is dedicated to. > Anyone with the original LP or a pointer to a WWW ressource where I > could find full Tigermilk sleeve information, please help me ! > > Eric > > ______________________________________________________ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From magnient at xxx.fr Mon Sep 28 13:57:02 1998 From: magnient at xxx.fr (Jean-Christophe MAGNIENT) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:57:02 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk dedication Message-ID: <360F879E.41C6@onera.fr> Hi everyone, although i'm not on the list, i'm using it because i'm a big fan of B&S (of course) and i need to answer a question to have an opportunity to win a conpetition to see them playing live on the french 'Black sessions' (ok, i know it's pretty selfish). So i want to apologize if you have (or will) received the same request from others and you're already bothered with it. Still, the question is : 'whom is the "Tigermilk" album dedicated to?' As there are so few of this album around, and i don't know anyone who has it ;( i've search around the www but i don't think the answer to this question is anywhere (why would it be anyway!). So i'm begging for you're help (i'm sure you realize what this session means to me), and if you have the answer, as i'm not on the list and as only few people would be interested, you might want to reply directly to me. THANX a lot. xoxox, Zice. -- Jean-Christophe MAGNIENT PhD Student / Doctorant ONERA - MFE / DSNA / ETRI [ http://www.onera.fr ] BP 72 92322 Chatillon cedex Fax # : 33-(0)1 46 73 41 46 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Mon Sep 28 14:01:50 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:01:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk Dedication Message-ID: <01BDEAE8.8A8EF9A0@keith@qss.co.uk> This is unfair, I just answered this question to one person, but now that you've revealed that it's a competition thing, you all ought to have an equal chance - Tigermilk's dedicated to Lawrence Bradby. Thanks, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From qhsmich at xxx.se Mon Sep 28 14:20:35 1998 From: qhsmich at xxx.se (Micheál O'Dwyer) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:20:35 +0200 Subject: Sinister: MTV/ Stockholm gig/ Hefner Message-ID: <360F8D22.BF733B7A@aom.ericsson.se> Firstly, did anybody else happen to see MTV Nordic's alternative Nation on Tuesday night? Because they showed THREE B&S videos IN A ROW (Is It Wicked, Dog On Wheels, Century Of Fakers). Followed by Arab Strap's new video. It all seemed to justify my habit of watching crap tv well into the night. Now if only I had a video recorder. Secondly, my weekend in Stockholm. After overindulging in a bottle of Pimms the night before, I was in no fit state whatsoever to participate in the sinister cricket game, so I had to give it a miss and crawl back to my sick bed in order to get the energy levels up. Otherwise I'd have never had a chance in the mosh-pit. We arrived at the venue mid way through the support act, and the place was already packed from the stage right back to the bar. By the time we had greased ourselves up and negotiated our way to the front, we only had a few minutes to wait before they came on stage to rapturous applause. That went on. And on. And on. Stuart did comment during the night on the fact that the Swedish people were the longest clappers in Europe. Between songs, the clapping lasted so long that by the end of it, all the individual clappers had synchronised into one big loud clap, like menstruation cycles in a convent. We even had rather irritating clapping five seconds into the songs, when everybody recognised what song was being played. It was all very Stars In Their Eyes. The set contained material from all three albums, concentrating mainly on Sinister, which was a bit of a surprise, 'cos when I saw them a year ago they played hardly anything from Sinister. Professionalism was the order of the day, and you could tell that the band had been through a few practise sessions. It was refreshing though to see that Stuart could still make a complete balls of the lyrics to A Summer Wasting. We were treated to three non-StuartM songs - Isobel's Is It Wicked Not To Care, StuartD's Spaceboy Dream (which, despite the fact that I don't care for it much on the album, was excellent live with the whole band wigging out like true rawk muthas at the end) and Stevie's Wrong Girl, which is the new title for Wrong Love. Stuart M played bass on this, which prompted Stevie to comment that he was the Phil Lynott of his generation, making us all chortle reverentially. As we did for all of the between song banter (my favourite being the time Stuart asked a mortified couple in the balcony to refrain from kissing as they were putting him off). Highlight of the night for me had to have been the storming version of The Boy With The Arab Strap. Stuart had another of his crazy mix-ups in his lyrics at the very end, singing "You're constantly updating your hit parade of your ten biggest fags / He's a waitress, and he's got piles / Sunday bath time could last for miles". Ahem. The duelling recorder bit during Judy was quite special too, with Isobel and Sarah seeing who could play most like the way I used to play when I was forced to learn it in primary school. That'd be all feeble and out of tune, in case you're wondering. All good things have to come to an end though, and after playing I Don't Love Anyone (their only Tigermilk song), the band left the stage, never to return, despite the fact that everybody hung around shouting for more. Pah, don't they know anything - every TRUE FAN knows that they don't do encores. Oh, but we wanted them to come back so much. I have no idea how long they played for, but it seemed way too short. The setlist, in no particular order ( and I'm doing this from memory, so forgive me if I left anything out / added anything) : Simple Things, Beautiful, Is It Wicked Not To Care, A Spaceboy Dream, The Boy With The Arab Strap, A Summer Wasting, Century Of Fakers, Seeing Other People, Like Dylan In The Movies, Get Me Away From Here, The Boy Done Wrong Again, Judy And The Dream Of Horses, Wrong Girl, I Don't Love Anyone. Apparantly the same set they played at one of their UK gigs. After several post gig pints in the Big Ben (I don't think there were any listies there, but I could be wrong), I made my way back through the streets of Stockholm in the rain, heartily singing B&S tunes in a style not too unlike my recorder playing in primary school. So it's back to Gothenburg and down to earth for me now. There were a couple of more things that I wanted to write...Oh yes - there was a post recently about Hefner and B&S's connection (and I apologise if this has been answered recently - I still have a wad of digests to get through). Stuart M is thanked on the Hefner album, but did not play on any of the tracks. His contribution from those recordings can be found on the Hefner Soul 10" on Too Pure - he plays keyboards on More Christian Girls. Richard is also thanked on the album for loaning some drums to Hefner. And has anybody else seen the new Fortuna Pop! website. Not only is it the best UK label in existence, but it also has a rather spiffing reference to B&S in their list of likes. Unfortunately, I don't have the URL here with me, and I got no joy when I tried to do a search for it, but you'll find it at the back of any of their recend deluge of singles. What do you mean you don't own the new Airport Girl single? Shame on you. That's it for now, folks Mick +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nl at xxx.ie Mon Sep 28 14:41:28 1998 From: nl at xxx.ie (Niall Lynch) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:41:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Paris show tickets ? Message-ID: <360F9207.40D3C5A6@broadcom.ie> Does anyone have any spare tickets for the show in La Cigale next week ( Oct 6 )? I'm flying over from Dublin without a ticket in hand, my brother over there couldn't get any. It seems like it was sold out before it was announced. I'd be grateful if someone could take pity on me, since Ireland doesn't feature on the tour. thanks in advance, niall. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: vcard.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 200 bytes Desc: Card for nl at broadcom.ie URL: From Peter_Magnotta at xxx.com Mon Sep 28 16:29:57 1998 From: Peter_Magnotta at xxx.com (Peter_Magnotta at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:29:57 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Tickets - Supper Club Message-ID: <8525668D.0054B294.00@smtpgate.rdigest.com> I've just joined - so I don't know how many people have already asked this but.....Does anyone have a ticket for the Nov 2nd show at The Supper Club? It's actually for a friend (really!) who doesn't have email. He doesn't have a computer or a job either, at the moment - so you see how badly he needs to go to the gig. 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com Mon Sep 28 17:33:11 1998 From: Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com (Anastasia Signoretta) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 12:33:11 EDT Subject: Sinister: Tickets - Supper Club Message-ID: just to add fire to the fury, or fury to the fray, or whatever the expression is...if anyone has *two* extra tickets they would like to sell at *any* cost to *either* of the new york city gigs (the two tickets do not have to be for the same day, by the way), i would be forever grateful...they're not for me, i'm sorted, but one is for my very hip brother and the other for my lovely diva-esque friend meghann, who i assure you would never ever be caught wearing pedal pushers. if you can't help well then wah wah wah. i shed tears for them. oh dear i think i am getting a cold...oh well carry on... stasia anastasia signoretta atlantic records international media relations 1290 avenue of the americas 24th floor new york, ny 10104 212.707.2619 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 'but how can i see stars if my feet are on the ground?' ride ------------- Original Text >From , on 9/28/98 11:29 AM: I've just joined - so I don't know how many people have already asked this but.....Does anyone have a ticket for the Nov 2nd show at The Supper Club? It's actually for a friend (really!) who doesn't have email. He doesn't have a computer or a job either, at the moment - so you see how badly he needs to go to the gig. Pete +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com Mon Sep 28 17:37:31 1998 From: Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com (Anastasia Signoretta) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 12:37:31 EDT Subject: Sinister: Tickets - Supper Club Message-ID: oh yeah and... i'm confused, is the second new york gig at the hammerstein ballroom? i hope *not* but i read something about someone calling there for tickets. pah if it is. cheers everyone, stasia anastasia signoretta atlantic records international media relations 1290 avenue of the americas 24th floor new york, ny 10104 212.707.2619 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 'but how can i see stars if my feet are on the ground?' ride ------------- Original Text >From , on 9/28/98 11:29 AM: I've just joined - so I don't know how many people have already asked this but.....Does anyone have a ticket for the Nov 2nd show at The Supper Club? It's actually for a friend (really!) who doesn't have email. He doesn't have a computer or a job either, at the moment - so you see how badly he needs to go to the gig. Pete +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MctaggartR at xxx.com Mon Sep 28 16:14:25 1998 From: MctaggartR at xxx.com (Mctaggart, Robert) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:14:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: the last of the famous international playboys Message-ID: Hello, Regular viewers will be aware of my long-standing obsession with all things Swedish, and Stockholm in particular. So when the opportunity arose to see that band you all keep going on about in my favourite city, with several of my best friends, and all for the low, low price of 70 pounds, wild horses wouldn't keep me away. This obviously leaves ample scope for people to consider me, at best, a deeply sad human being, and at worst, a stalker, but of course, nothing could be further from the truth. On the contrary, I can recommend wanton spur-of-the-moment jetsetting to anyone. I managed to pull off a once in a lifetime stunt of showing up without actually telling a couple of my friends I was going, tapping them on the shoulder, and watching their surprised expressions. "What the hell are you doing here?" That was almost worth the airfare in itself. At the venue, there was no Symington (surely the Bez of B&S), so instead of blistering soul tunes, it was all a terribly 'indie', although I liked hearing "Candyskin". Ah well, some people love that sort of thing, I guess. (Incidentally, I won't go on about this, but when I keep seeing posts where the word "twee" is used as a compliment? It isn't - it's an insult, and certainly not something to aspire to. Excuses that the word is being used "ironically" or being reclaimed as a weapon against an uncaring world don't wash with me, I'm afraid. But I digress). I didn't meet any Sinister kids this time, which was a shame, but I didn't have time, sorry. Anyway, the show.... Well, I'm not very good at compliments, I guess the very fact I'm on this list speaks volumes about how fond I am of Belle and Sebastian, but this show was special. I've rarely seen a band so obviously happy to be playing, and to one of the loveliest crowds I've ever witnessed. I do love seeing groups abroad, I think that European audiences are more appreciative than their British equivalents, maybe they're not so complacent cos they don't get so many chances, but they weren't simpering and sycophantic, they just liked what they heard and showed it. It all seemed to come together on Saturday, the venue was the perfect size, the crowd a delight, and B&S responded accordingly, and were just fucking great, better than I've ever seen them. Afterwards, we went to a bar and we all got drunk, as is the custom; had a fascinating debate about whether or not Celts were better than Vikings; listened to The Clash (although Jani wanted to hear "Horny"), and encountered a lunatic woman at the bar who told me off for drinking Swedish beer - "it tastes of shit", she said, repeatedly. She looked vaguely psychotic so I wasn't about to argue with her. I had four hours sleep all weekend, but I wouldn't have missed it for the world. I love Stockholm and next time, I'm taking you (yes, you), baby. Love Tag xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Mon Sep 28 17:23:47 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:23:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: #379 Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7B51@COR-EXG1> Adam West wrote : >Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 12:26:42 +0100 (BST) >From: Millionnaire Bruce Wayne >Subject: Sinister: Apology >Sorry, I got confused. This is the funniest thing I have ever read on the list....even funnier than Genuine Millers constant electronic-diorreah. On the subject of honesty on the list Mr Genuine ChrisReah Miller, why don't you just come clean and admit you are in fact Terry Southern and that "Blue Movie" was autobiographical. A general warning to all you kiddoes out there. Whilst Mr Miller has to be commended on his hugely varied musical taste, one should never be tempted to take up one his book recommendations....Not the sort of thing you want your mum to find when she cleans up all those tissues under your bed. Rap101 wrote : >PS: Is the guy in the photo gallery who reckons he's Patrick McNee >still around? Respect to you if so. Hey respect due to Mr Dennis, that would be me. And no I don't reckon I'm Patrick McNee, that's the only photo I could find with a bloke in a suit with a bowler on. It's something to do with the late great Tim Randall and Hopkins deceased and Fluffy Sarah and is entirely irrelevant nowadays. I'm crap and should not be introduced to your children. BTW, is Rap101 something to do with the Depeche Mode album ? I shall be seeing DM at Wem_ber_lee on Weds and I would be somewhat disappointed if Gahan staged in Adidas joggers and Lord-Mayor regalia with Big Ben tied round his neck singing "Lemme see ya stripped down to the muvver-fuckin bone" On the subject, on holiday in Tunisia recntly I was woooed by the wonders of German satelite TV, on which I saw someone cover DM's "Stripped" in a sort of Extreme Noise Terror sort of way. I don't suppose any of our Euro-buddies know who whis was. I don't want to buy it...it was shit...just curious. Night children. Adrian. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Mon Sep 28 17:29:13 1998 From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:29:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: hurdy, hurdy, hurdy Message-ID: <004401bdeafd$22080ba0$4429c22b@bond.broadcast> >Regular viewers will be aware of my long-standing obsession with all >things Swedish, and Stockholm in particular. On a kinda related note... Apart from Bjork & the Cardigans the only Scandinavian bands that seem to get any coverage here are the death metal sort. However, I've got a couple of albums by other viking-sorts that are pretty good. Can any Scandinavians (or just generally clued-on people) recommend any others worth checking out? Cheers, Michael PS >If anyone has any old analogue Pez that they need duplicated in digital >form, I was going to ask anyone if they'd seen the POBO awards, but thought that was taking a bad joke too far. PPS Thats Pez Of Black Origin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dubet at xxx.edu Mon Sep 28 17:31:17 1998 From: dubet at xxx.edu (The Dude, a.k.a. Timmy D.) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 12:31:17 -0400 Subject: Sinister: and there was much rejoicing Message-ID: <360FB9D5.64DC96E9@mail4.bc.edu> Wow, I've come the realization that TBWTAS has a more twangy, "american" feel to it than Sinister and the summer EP's. It's got that "country western folk" feel to it, and sometimes even an old-time Rock and Roll (i'm talking late fifties here) feel, namely the song TBWTAS. Anyone care to tongue lash me on this hypothetical insight? Or am i, as i hope, pointing out something that we all feel deep down inside? burn a flag, tim +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Mon Sep 28 18:03:26 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:03:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: summer love or summer lust? what does it matter, you're beautiful! In-Reply-To: <000901bde93b$6a9c1c80$96567ec2@whelan> Message-ID: Heey hey it's the Sinister list! But you don't Sinister around....oh dear. I spent half of a spanish lesson just trying to translate lots of songs into Spanish... hey hey somos los monos....la gente dicen que we monkey around.... to MONKEE! That isn't a verb!!! Lets start with the nice bit :) That adorable lovely sugar coated not exactly and iceberg, but he's been laughed at by Ian Broudie, Gary of Done-ness, wrote : >*waves arms about in comedy scouser mode* aye aye, calm down calm down. 87) >All the same though, I can vouch that the fluffster is never boring, dull or >drab. 87) Awww! And well aren't you a sweetiepie my darling :) Me! Dull! Boring! Drab! NEVER! If I had to be I'd just run away to an exciting land full of joy and laughter, or do as I do now and find it when I can! Which would be muuuch easier if I didn't have yukky smelly parents who say oh no you can't shoot up smack in the front room Sarah....they're SO unfair!!! > >Is everyone supposed to be listing their fave music then I take it. Ok here >goes, SFA, GZM, Melys, Felt, Julian Cope/Teardrop Explodes, The Crocketts >(shut it Fluffy), The The, Stump, Half Man Half Biscuit and Power of Dreams. OK. NOOOO! The Crocketts are crap!!!! I just have to scream this to a mailing list, apart from The Crocketts, Gary has reasonable taste in choons. Please forgive him. Bossa Nova???? Hehehehehehehhehehehehhehehehehhe hahahahahhahahahahahahha atitter tittter chortle chortle guffaw teeheee hoooo hooooo, ahem, er, yeah, bossa nova 'rocks my world' - to steal a phrase from the ever so sexy Ken Korda. For a change :) I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Candarel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grabutcho at xxx.com Mon Sep 28 18:41:59 1998 From: grabutcho at xxx.com (Julien Boeldieu) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 10:41:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: rendez-vous parisien ? Message-ID: <19980928174159.27160.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> Appel aux listies qui fouleront le sol de la Cigale le 6 octobre. Y-aurait-il moyen de commencer � songer � esquisser l'�bauche d'un rendez-vous avant ou apr�s le concert du 6 octobre ? Ou pourquoi pas un pique-nique, � l'image des fans new-yorkais (si le temps le permet) ? Par ailleurs, j'invite cordialement les listies qui le souhaitent � venir f�ter mes 25 ans le samedi 3 octobre chez moi (dans la limite de mes 2500 m� avec terrasse, piscine, jardin privatif et vue sur la Seine). Inscrivez-vous en m'envoyant un e-mail ou en appelant au 01.44.63.08.66. Julien. == "Je ne remets jamais � demain ce que je peux faire le surlendemain" ** Alphonse Allais ** _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From xav at xxx.uk Mon Sep 28 19:16:00 1998 From: xav at xxx.uk (Mark Crutch) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 19:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Last word on the Violent Femmes? Message-ID: <199809281816.TAA14943@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> >> Anyone who hasn't heard the Femmes >> eponymous first album should definitely do so. Very acoustic, but with a >> great raw edge. >> > I was pretty shocked to read this, but then I noticed the "uk" in the > email address and suddenly it all made sense. Apparently, this album is > not so well known outside of the US. You'd have a tough time finding a > white American between the ages of 18 and 30 who doesn't know the mid > section of "Kiss Off" by heart. That's about the size of it. I'm on a VF mailing list, as they play over here very infrequently, and it's the only way I get to find out when, but it seems that they're biggest in the States and Australia. In fact, from their tour list, it seems that there can't be many people left in the US who haven't seen them live! Though they do put on a good set (but perhaps a bit raucous for the twee cardigan wearers around here ;) Essentially they're not that well known in the UK (though I did once go to a curry house in which the sitar tape started with a song that had the same opening phrase as their first album!), so we've yet to get sick of hearing them, as a nation. My post was just to suggest that other listees might want to check out the eponymous album, as it has the most crossover with B&S's style of any of their albums. Their best single track, though, has to be "Hey Nonny Nonny" from their fourth album: the lyrics were taken fron a 16th century poem by "The Shepherd Tony"!!!! Xav -- xav at compsoc.man.ac.uk http://www.compsoc.man.ac.uk/~xav "It hath whirred into life" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Julie_Smith at xxx.com Mon Sep 28 19:32:07 1998 From: Julie_Smith at xxx.com (Julie_Smith at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: More exciting Tape Tree Info Message-ID: <01J2CDCY5CCA8Y18OF@NOTELT.MED.IACNET.COM> Hey everyone. Three of our fellow listee friends and I have decided to er, branch off and start our own tape-tree! Obviously it would be even more fun (hard to believe, isn't it?) with a few more people so anyone interested in joining in should e-mail me privately. C'mon, join in. . .it'll be fantastic! Really! I also want to publicly thank all of you who have taped Tigermilk for new listees. It's so nice to be able to sample something which is out of print and and only available through other people's generosity. I really appreciated getting my copy, which I've already almost worn out from over-playing. YAY for all of you nice people. Thankyouverymuch Julie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Scott_Turner at xxx.COM Mon Sep 28 20:05:36 1998 From: Scott_Turner at xxx.COM (Scott Turner) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:05:36 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I was looking at the black and white world Message-ID: <8525668D.0066E105.00@JHMAIL.JH.COM> On 28 September at 07:19 GMT, N Leggatt ---Michael wrote: >Can any Scandinavians (or just generally clued-on >people) recommend any others worth checking out? You should check out Motorpsycho, 22-pistepirkko, The soundtrack of our lives, Union carbide Productions. Bye. Jan. "If you knew where you stood, you'd be standing still" -- REP _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From babyblu at xxx.uk Mon Sep 28 20:16:29 1998 From: babyblu at xxx.uk (Rory Mackie) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 20:16:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I'm an alien, a legal alien.. Message-ID: <360FE08D.2288@gold.globalcafe.co.uk> Here's my lovely Linda: Hello, thanks for visiting mine and Rory's little den of iniquity last Saturday! Thanks especially for all the left-overs, which we had for breakfast. LoveLindaxxx (Me again:) Yes indeed. A big hearty thank you to all who attended the inaugral indoor picnic on Saturday. The usual rouges gallery of hatchet faced villians were there, plus some new faces (Yaz, Michael you're stars!) and some old man who'd seeming just drifted in off the street and then proceeded to make lewd suggestions about cats and chocolate fingers, drink all my whisky, crank his battered acoustic guitar up to 11 and frighten the congregation with mangled renditions of the first 5 seconds of every song ever written before, in a very Stuart Murdoch-esque fashion, forgetting all the words and all the chords and cursing loudly, attempting to hurl bodily innocent onlookers from the sofa so'se he could pass out in an inelegant drunken sprawl before lovely Linda took pity on him and tucked him up with a nice cup of tea in our spare room. Oh no, hang on, that was little Stephen Trousers wasn't it? Tsch, so out of character. Also extra special thanks to Mark for being the benevolent co-host, and to lovely, lovely Andy Dean for his lovely, lovely tape. However *NO* thanks at all to whatever bugger *accidentaly* strolled off with it. On another matter entirely, would any of our American cousins in NY happen to know of any affordable-ish places to stay? We will be there around the end of October and we haven't found anywhere yet! Please mail me privately with any suggestions. Cheers StayLuckyRoryxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ken_davis at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 09:46:44 1998 From: ken_davis at xxx.com (ken_davis at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 98 03:46:44 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Web orders for Boston show Message-ID: <9809289070.AA907011696@smtp-gw2.putnaminv.com> For those of you who do not live particularly close to Boston, and don't have a reliable boyfriend's mommy to buy you tickets...another option is available. You can make credit card orders at: http://www.mideastclub.com (click on tickets) I had to send a followup e-mail to get my confirmation, but it was much easier than travelling into Cambridge to buy tickets. Cheers Ken Davis - who would be in big trouble with his wife if he had a boyfriend, who's mommy was buying him B&S tix +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JonnyKat at xxx.com Mon Sep 28 21:35:22 1998 From: JonnyKat at xxx.com (JonnyKat at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:35:22 EDT Subject: Sinister: The Inn Crowd ! Message-ID: <17bdc696.360ff30a@aol.com> The Apparently Incomparable Hosts Rory and Linda wrote: << ...would any of our American cousins in NY happen to know of any affordable-ish places to stay? We will be there around the end of October and we haven't found anywhere yet! Please mail me privately with any suggestions. >> Well, I would respond privately, except that this very good question has been asked of me about a dozen times over the past week, so I thought this way would be more fun. Still, that only accounts for about two percent of the list... but who knows how many jet-setters are lurking in the shadows? If you need a place which falls between a hostel and a fancy hotel, these are all affordable and decent places, all located in Manhattan's 212 area code: Gramercy Park Hotel 475-4320 Hotel Chelsea 243-3700 Chelsea Savoy 929-9353 Murray Hill Inn 683-6900 Cosmopolitan 566-1900 Washington Square Hotel 777-9575 Carleton Arms 679-0680 Sorry this post couldn't be more, er, poetic... I tried to fit this in the form of a Haiku but I got confused Looking forward to seeing many of you sillies at the shows! In the meantime, you can see me at: http://www.ipopmag.com/this_week/thisweek_980928_FMparty.html It seems the paparazzi caught me after several gin and tonics. I'm the one under Al Pacino, referred to as Jonny the Fire Drill musician. Oh my, the shame. Mucho Amore, Jonny +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinder at xxx.se Mon Sep 28 23:04:50 1998 From: tinder at xxx.se (Jessica Berglund) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 23:04:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: hurdy, hurdy, hurdy References: <004401bdeafd$22080ba0$4429c22b@bond.broadcast> Message-ID: <36100802.E22E7221@hem.passagen.se> Michael wrote: > . Can any Scandinavians (or just generally clued-on people) > recommend any others worth checking out? I would recommend Stina Nordenstam, Nicolai Dunger and The Bear Quartet.... there are too many to mention actually...swedish music is great //jessica -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Putneysays at xxx.com Mon Sep 28 23:31:04 1998 From: Putneysays at xxx.com (Putneysays at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:31:04 EDT Subject: Sinister: Mission: Sneaking Into Supper Club Impossible? Message-ID: Hello, i've just joined this list, and already I've been awed by the abundance of e-mail I've been getting from it...you rival the porn artists who insist on filling my mail box, bravo! But before I write any reamrks that can be deemed disparaging, I was just curious about the age limit of the supper Club. I've heard all sorts of odd rumors about it, saying that the show is 21+, 18+, and oddest of all, 16+...either way, does anyone know how good the chances of a 14 year old girl snekaing into the Supper Club past the scary bouncers? Yes, we all know that Stuart Murdoch has an unhealthy infatuation with nubile young school girls such as myself. Do you think that if I showed a bit of leg under the pleated skirt of my school unfiorm, he'll lust and put me on the guest list? Speculation and condescending remarks about my age are welcome, someone please answer me. Thanks, Susannah +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SpaceboyUK at xxx.com Mon Sep 28 23:50:37 1998 From: SpaceboyUK at xxx.com (SpaceboyUK at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:50:37 EDT Subject: Sinister: st. etienne Message-ID: <19d2a8cd.361012bd@aol.com> when my order for the new Sunny Day R.E. cd came in the mail, the packaging slip said "For good chewing(or such),try St.Etienne" i just thought i'd share that. sorry if it was pointless. i had just noticed that you all had been talking about it. has anyone else heard the new SDRE? -a.james +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MileEndGrl at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 00:19:22 1998 From: MileEndGrl at xxx.com (MileEndGrl at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 19:19:22 EDT Subject: Sinister: Mission: Sneaking Into Supper Club Impossible? Message-ID: <9bd45f56.3610197a@aol.com> In a message dated 9/28/98 3:33:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Putneysays at aol.com writes: << I've heard all sorts of odd rumors about it, saying that the show is 21+, 18+, and oddest of all, 16+... >> It is 16+ only. I know someone who went at 14 so I don't see a problem. Wait, hey! It's Susannah asking the question. Dammit! Listen to me when I tell you the age. I called them up myself to ask and that is what the guy told me. Geez Louise. You know I like you! << Well, like it or not, Belle and Sebastian are headed for the big time. Why, because they are in this week's issue of People magazine!!! >> I saw that too, but I wouldn't say they were headed for the big time cause they reviewed Gorky's Zygotic Mynci too and they never hit it big after that. Belle and Sebastian was also in Entertainment Magazine (Sinister got an A and TBWTAS got an A- which is great for that magazine, they tear everything to shreads) and Rolling Stone with the last 2 albums and they still didn't make it big. Cass +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TFertig3 at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 01:37:48 1998 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 20:37:48 EDT Subject: Sinister: another NY enquiry Message-ID: <86bb1d04.36102bdc@aol.com> I hate to do this, but... I've got a couple questions about the NY shows. 1. My sister told me it is +21, in which case I'm in deep shit with two extra tickets. I certainly hope it is not. I called the Supper Club and a wacked out girl told me she thought it was. So, is it? David, Katrina?? 2. Is the Nov 2 show completely and utterly sold out?? 3. If so, does anyone (I know this has been asked about a billion times already...) have 2 extra tickets for the Nov 2 show? Or know where I can get two? Someone, enlighten me! Bye bye, Tami +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TopBanana1 at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 02:42:09 1998 From: TopBanana1 at xxx.com (TopBanana1 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:42:09 EDT Subject: Sinister: my so-called life Message-ID: >One of the best moments from the whole short-lived series "My So-Called >Life" was Claire Danes' character dancing and singing along with the >Femmes' "Blister in the Sun" in front of her bedroom mirror. ahhhhhhhh, i love that part. thats kinda what really made me go out and buy the violent femmes singles cd "add it up". its amazing. its still one of my favorites to this day. anyone that doesnt have it i suggest that they get it. theres a lot of fun songs ("waiting for the bus" "held her in my arms") , but its got its freaky parts ("gimme the car" "country death song........'threw my child into a bottomless pit' "). i dont care what other people say about my so-called life, that its cheesy etc, it reminds me of my own bubble. i live in a really thick bubble. im a silly naive girl. i really do think so. just need to get off my chest what a retard i am. and dont listen to anyone who says im not retarded!!!! shirley is a retard! let it be known! love! shirley P.S.-----new yorkers that are desperate for tickets and knew they wanted to go........ya shoulda got em before, they didnt sell out for a while. was really easy to get em. yeah, thatll make yous feel better about not having tickets. hehe, sorry. love again shirley ________________ Shirley Brahas Homepage ________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jmurphy at xxx.Edu Tue Sep 29 03:31:31 1998 From: jmurphy at xxx.Edu (Jessica Murphy) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 22:31:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: my so-called life (fwd) Message-ID: Ooh, let me clarify! I did *not* mean, by singling out one great music-related moment of "My So-Called Life," to suggest that any other moment of the series is less wonderful. I love the whole show from start to finish, and I highly recommend it to anyone who hasn't already caught the reruns of that one too-short, long-ago season. And the "soundtrack" CD from the show is decent, even if it doesn't include the Violent Femmes. There, I've come full circle. jessica m ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:42:09 EDT From: TopBanana1 at xxx.com >One of the best moments from the whole short-lived series "My So-Called >Life" was Claire Danes' character dancing and singing along with the >Femmes' "Blister in the Sun" in front of her bedroom mirror. ahhhhhhhh, i love that part... i dont care what other people say about my so-called life, that its cheesy etc, it reminds me of my own bubble. i live in a really thick bubble. im a silly naive girl. i really do think so. just need to get off my chest what a retard i am. love again shirley ________________ Shirley Brahas Homepage ________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 04:14:02 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid Dossinger) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 23:14:02 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Etc, as usual Message-ID: <3610507A.C2861594@bigfoot.com> Well, I've gone and lost the carefully cut-and-ready-to-be-pasted quote (it took hours) that I had re: the vinyl being 150 gram. But there you go, subject introduced. According to the little sticker on the outside of the vinyl I bought, it is 150 gram vinyl, so Matador ain't lyin'. But then again, I not exactly an expert on these things, so the wool could be far over my eyes by now. I'd just like to second this: > Incidentally, I won't go on about this, but when I > keep seeing posts where the word "twee" is used as a compliment? It > isn't - it's an insult, and certainly not something to aspire to. > Excuses that the word is being used "ironically" or being reclaimed as a > weapon against an uncaring world don't wash with me, I'm afraid. > Hear, hear, rah, rah, go team. Thank you. So I get my new copy of CMJ today and there's a nice little article about the shocking fact that Belle and Sebastian aren't touring. For the most part, the article is the same as the others...won't do interviews, near-religious following, blah blah blah. But it does mention us. It quotes Stevie as saying, "I just wasn't sure that the songs (on The Boy...) were as good or something. But to be honest with you, whenever we make a record, I kind of get depressed about it. Because I just think it could be a lot better." Then it says: "Some of the Belle and Sebastian's fans agree. Internet lists devoted to the band are ablaze with claims that for some reason it left its best songs off the record, that it's selling out, that the title of the set's first song is some sort of self-fufilling prophecy." Let's start at the beginning. THE Belle and Sebastian?! Oh, that's good. Secondly, are there any other lists besides this one? And I can see the "best songs" comment, but who's said anything about "It Could Have Been a Brilliant Career" being a self-fulfilling prophecy?! Whoever it is, c'mere so I can give you a swift kick in the pants. It's already BEEN a brilliant career, and I think there are very, very few people on this list who would say otherwise. And if staying on a tiny indie label rather than jumping ship to a major, turning over 1/3 of the songwriting to other band members and not releasing a single is considered to be "selling out", then we as a people are surely, shirley doomed. I had something else to say, but lucky you, I forgot. Between the deep blue sea and the devil, Reid +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 06:26:19 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 22:26:19 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Oct. 5 French Radio Session Message-ID: <006201bdeb69$b15568e0$5a9fcdcf@brier> Hellooooooo! Could someone tell me how to set up my computer to hear the French radio session on Oct. 5? I don't want to miss it. 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URL: From rebeckas at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 09:02:31 1998 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgal) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 01:02:31 PDT Subject: Sinister: hurdy ,hurdy, hurdy Message-ID: <19980929080232.13832.qmail@hotmail.com> oh there are mayn well worth checking out swedish bands.. here are some: eggstone, komeda, robot, cloud9, yvonne, this perfect day, wannadies, bear quartet, easy, fidget, bob hund, freewheel, the mopeds, ceasars palace, superswirls, kent, red sleeping beauty etc... love becka # go and have a peek at my page it's constantly developing, http://www.angelfire.com/me/Mizzy # ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NeilD at xxx.uk Tue Sep 29 10:02:30 1998 From: NeilD at xxx.uk (Neil Dewhurst) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:02:30 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <704AE307AB53D2119EE300805F7DF755E2BF@NCMSERVER> - ---Michael > wrote: >Can any Scandinavians (or just generally clued-on >people) recommend any others worth checking out? You should check out Motorpsycho, 22-pistepirkko, The soundtrack of our lives, Union carbide Productions. Bye. Jan Don't know about the others, but the Soundtrack of our lives are definitely worth listening to. Instant repeater 99 spent a record 21 consecutive days in my CD player without anyone else interfering. Damn, didn't put it on my tape-tree tape. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vegus at xxx.no Tue Sep 29 10:16:04 1998 From: vegus at xxx.no (Stein Vegusdal) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:16:04 +0200 Subject: Sinister: hurdy ,hurdy, hurdy In-Reply-To: <19980929080232.13832.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980929111604.009a9b90@mail.a.sol.no> At 01:02 29.09.98 PDT, you wrote: > >oh there are mayn well worth checking out swedish bands.. > >here are some: > >eggstone, komeda, robot, cloud9, yvonne, this perfect day, wannadies, >bear quartet, easy, fidget, bob hund, freewheel, the mopeds, ceasars >palace, superswirls, kent, red sleeping beauty etc... ...and some good norwegian bands as well: The Chairs, Dipsomaniacs, KÃ¥re & The Cavemen, King Midas, Astroburger, Loch Ness Mouse, The Time Lodgers, The Blind Bats, The Tables, Weeds, Monsters Of Doom, Kung Fu Girls, Beatroot, Richochets, Green Club Riviera... and a well of others. Denmark: 18th Dye Finland: 22 Pistepirkko Germany: Slut, Fread Is Dead, Village Of Sawonga, and almost every band on the Hausmusik-label. Steinski +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Sep 28 22:08:03 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 23:08:03 +0200 Subject: Sinister: #379 Message-ID: <01bdeb24$1513a180$LocalHost@itjfvkli> The Suit >On the subject, on holiday in Tunisia recntly I was woooed by the >wonders of German satelite TV, on which I saw someone cover DM's >"Stripped" in a sort of Extreme Noise Terror sort of way. I don't >suppose any of our Euro-buddies know who whis was. I don't want to buy >it...it was shit...just curious. I don't know who it is either, but it's from one of those tribute albums. It's on the radio constantly out here in Euroland, kind of sub-Laibach. I don't think it's that bad to be honest. Especially the line about making decisions without your television, a classic I think, especially when GRRRRROWLED. Mercifully short, Peter PS: An excellent article about the role of chickens in popular music on Duke's Tangents website. This just happens to be one of my own pet subjects, I could contribute a long list of chicken records myself, but some journalist would probably nick them. Anyway, it was very nice to find a Tangents article seemingly written especially for me. PPS: My electonic anal leakage is to make up for the lack of Roddddd in our lives. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tim.groves at xxx.uk Tue Sep 29 11:17:00 1998 From: tim.groves at xxx.uk (Tim Groves) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:17:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: farewell ( why I want to leave this list) Message-ID: I have been a big fan of B&S since 96 - I bought a vinyl copy in Vinyl Experience in Hanway street (which is now closed) a woman who worked there said that she ran the fan club (Katrina was this you?) and hence I was on mail list - never sent any stamps but still have the cool sheep badge. I still do and probably will always love B&S and I still want to know " news" ie tour dates - single releases (why not one so far?) and bloody Tigermilk - But the postings bear little relevance to these - I can't stand St Etienne and there has been more postings about them recently than B&S. So I wish B&S and their team and all of you the best wherever you are - but this is getting all a bit too much and I also get charged for anything receive with an enclosure (altbody) - I will still visit the web site - missed the picknick. my tips for you all go and buy Matthew Sweet records. get stoned vote labour keep a clean nose regards tim " the biggest wagon is the empty wagon" 10c halesworth road london se13 7tn 0181 244 5049 (give me a ring ) unsubscribe sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eng98ajo at xxx.se Tue Sep 29 11:38:44 1998 From: eng98ajo at xxx.se (Anna J) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:38:44 +0200 Subject: Sinister: *sigh* Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980929123844.0091a840@student3.lu.se> Hi folks! As I'm writing this my head is filled with Christmas bells, since I just walked into two different shops and they were both playing Christmas music. Funnily my calendar says September, but maybe I forgot to tear off a few sheets? Anyway, as the bells are chiming away, all I really wanted to say is one thing: Oh boy! That concert Saturday night in Stockholm that freighteningly enough I so nearly missed was, well... oh boy! File under simple things to make a young girl sigh. And don't forget to triplicate. Anna :) P.S. Michael wrote: >Can any Scandinavians (or just generally clued-on people) >recommend any others worth checking out? If you don't mind it being in Swedish you should definitely give Bob Hund a chance, the sole Swedes of my music collection. Of course, to fully appreciate them, you should probably learn Swedish as well, but hey, a few years of practise should be worth it... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 13:36:04 1998 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 05:36:04 PDT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19980929123604.17989.qmail@hotmail.com> Not enough hard rock on this list. I suggest we listen to Prolapse. Don't be a hard rock when you really are a gem, girlfriend, lemme break it down for you again. Eeeee, bitter/cold. I don't like turncoats. All the people on this list sure weren't half this adorable in 1992. What I mean is that they were all listening to Fugazi and Mudhoney and the Dead C and shit like that because it was vogueish to be into, you know, the 'extremes of rock', all the Stooges and stuff. Well, now that bowel-loosening guitar distortion can be found on every local "Hot Pop Tarts" radio station the one-step-ahead crowd only feels comfortable admitting fondness for soft-spoken Angloid bands, by and large.... Don't think that yours truly isn't at least partly implicated as well. If you'd described Felt to me then I'd have certainly had no interest in ever listening to them. I still love the Stooges, and I don't know if you've heard Prolapse.... I think they're pretty funny, but whatever. I also love the Divine Comedy (and Belle and Sebastian, duh) but it just seems that this "orchestral pop" wavelet is already getting swollen with cellists-come-lately, know what I mean, that is, for me any band that will come on the scene right now with some swelling string sections and sly, blase lyrics would evince an instant kill-at-will response. I wonder what today's junior highschoolers will make into their revolution, soon to become its own worst mockery. I have a friend who loves the Divine Comedy only because Hannon looks so Divinely =bored= on his covers, just so, so cute. She sold her album back to the store when she lost the insert. Still, that haiku sort of hurt. =-= ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From babyblu at xxx.uk Tue Sep 29 13:53:02 1998 From: babyblu at xxx.uk (Rory Mackie) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:53:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Unreserved pleading. Message-ID: <3610D82E.2E28@gold.globalcafe.co.uk> Ummm. Hello. I'm sorry to subject the list to this shamefull display of unreserved pleading, but if anyone in NY has a spare room/bed/floor/out-house/shrub or similar that a young lad and his lovely friend Linda could stay in between 15-25 October in return for some cash and an open invitation to come stay with us in London whenever you feel like it, could you mail me? We will be eternally gratefull and we really are lovely people, honest! Any takers will get to see my world famous impression of a baby turtle and have lots and lots of drinks bought for them and have their house tidied from top to bottom. HeresHopingRoryxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Sep 29 12:31:42 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:31:42 +0200 Subject: Sinister: There Will Be No Sweeter Sound Message-ID: <01bdeb9c$bc141460$LocalHost@itjfvkli> I bought the Okeh gospel story, thinking it would be full of ecclesiastical northern stompers, but it isn't. On the plus side, it does feature a previously unreleased performance by Brother Rodney. So that's where he got to! I believe Finland churns out bucketloads of shit-hot techno of the nosebleed variety. It should do anyway. Sarah, TO MONKEE may not be a verb, but TO MONKEE AROUND most definitely is. I know how to say it in Spanish, but I'm not telling you because you called me a bucket of stale wee-wee the other day and saw fit to laugh at all us sensitive souls who enjoy the odd dose of romantic bossa nova to relieve our aches and pains. I suspect you are secretly very twee indeed. Goodness gracious! Is this list really ablaze? Pah! Would it be out of place for me to suggest one of those nice noticeboards for all these spare tickets for NYC requests we keep getting? I don't mean to be a grouchy grumbletrousers, but they're draining the very life from my trembling frame. If this continues, I promise myself I'll treat myself and visit a nearby tower, and climbing to the top, I'll throw my pants right off, in an effort to make it clear to who... oh dear, I've forgotten the rest. I think that song's probably ripe for a revival. Peter PS: Another warning about Brazilian music. Some of it sounds remarkably similar to Cleo Laine. Bee doo doobie doo and so forth. Not everyone's cup of tea, it must be admitted. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From padraic_fresheire at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 14:29:59 1998 From: padraic_fresheire at xxx.com (padraic doorey) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:29:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: [Rory's] Unreserved pleading (REVISITED) Message-ID: <19980929132959.8962.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com> hi di hi..... babyblue rory and lovely linda are prime examples of how lovely people from this list are. please please please try to find a smidgen of space on which they can kip in that big old apple.....hmm - actually i just thought of something which parallels with that nursery rhyme about the woman who lived in a shoe (she didn't know what to do!)...anyhow. it is also worth mentioning that linda is perhaps the most skilled nail polisher ever to have worked on my nails while rory has been my best friend sine i was a year old (actually that is another rory i feel).... think about how cool it will be to have some real live europeans in your pad. they can teach you all about the joys of tepid ales, royalty, tea drinking (linda has expert knowledge!!) cool britania, the EU, having seen geezer from placebo / gaz from supergrass / thingy from my life story etc etc at popstarz OR jarvis cocker cycle past you on new bridge street in the heat last summer, or being taken back to the house of johnny menswear by simon menswear after one too many at the spread eagle only to be subjected to their latest single (aaaaaAAAAH!!!).....rory has already voiced his joy at seeing a tootsie roll - dodn't you want to be part of that special moment in some small but significant way?? those first steps, from small acorns mighty oaks grow etc. etc. etc. rory try to give a lovely lady from STA travel (jamie) a call on 0171 621 6262....she got our flights sorted for the pesky sum of �165....tell her that padraic sent ya! i love you all. viva philadelphia! lady penelope (avec une grande champagne). +================================================+ Ummm. Hello. I'm sorry to subject the list to this shamefull display of unreserved pleading, but if anyone in NY has a spare room/bed/floor/out-house/shrub or similar that a young lad and his lovely friend Linda could stay in between 15-25 October in return for some cash and an open invitation to come stay with us in London whenever you feel like it, could you mail me? We will be eternally gratefull and we really are lovely people, honest! Any takers will get to see my world famous impression of a baby turtle and have lots and lots of drinks bought for them and have their house tidied from top to bottom. HeresHopingRoryxxx _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lorelei_27 at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 14:54:49 1998 From: lorelei_27 at xxx.com (lorelei tremelor) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:54:49 PDT Subject: Sinister: nyc tickets, again Message-ID: <19980929135449.7791.qmail@hotmail.com> hi, i suppose it's hopeless to ask here, but i am in need of a nyc ticket for november 1. please oh please. anyone? love, lorelei ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From padraic_fresheire at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 14:58:27 1998 From: padraic_fresheire at xxx.com (padraic doorey) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 06:58:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: a catty response (nah, just kidding really) Message-ID: <19980929135827.10095.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> Salut, Okay i'm no great spelling-meister Philippe, nor is my French perfect but i do know how to spell "dictionary". However, it is worth noting that I am an expert in the consumption of fine wines, beers and spirits. *mwah* Padraic (AKA Lady Penelope avec/sans a variety of glamorous accessories). ---------------------------------------------------- "What is "une grande champagne" ? Je suis fran�ais (je crois) mais je ne connais pas "une champagne". Le champagne is a wine, with bubbles. Too much champagne and your french is away :) XO, Philippe, the boy with the french dictionnary" _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 14:52:09 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:52:09 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Delgados, Union Chapel 1.10.98 Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22230B76@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Good afternoon my pretties, Just thought I'd write to ask if anyone's going to the Delgados Union Chapel gig in London this Thursday? Me and my mate are going to be there, so if anyone fancies meeting up, or saying hello, that would be very lovely indeed. There are still tickets available (or there were at 2.45 pm this afternoon), so come along and watch the third best band in Scotland (supported by Six by Seven) in the company of us some groovy people. Write privately to the above address if you do! While I'm here, can I just add that a dislike of St Etienne seems a bit of a poor excuse for quitting the list. And is Corporea accusing us of all being part of the one-step-ahead crowd (sic), ready to move onto the next scene when it arrives, having already discarded our Mudhoney badges and mugs when B&S burst onto the softly-spoken angloid scene ("look out Jim! The Angloid mother ship is closing in, and our shields can't take much more!")? Or am I missing the point and taking myself too seriously again? I can't imagine B&S will ever be "in" enough for people to feel the need to pretend to like them - and I'm pretty sure there's no-one on this list who's only in it for the cred points it affords. I heard B&S on the radio last night for the first time since XFM went belly up (and have you seen what they're doing to Radio 1? I'm too resigned to be upset this time). Can't remember which one though... I'm not funny today. No change there, then. I want to find out how I can get my phone to play "songs for Children" whenever it rings. I don't think it's possible, but it was a nice fantasy for 5 minutes. hasta luego, chicos, Mark xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkorchia at xxx.fr Tue Sep 29 11:26:13 1998 From: mkorchia at xxx.fr (Michael Korchia) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:26:13 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Gig in Paris Message-ID: <01bdeb93$97351440$LocalHost@mkorchia.club-internet.fr> After Belle & Sebastian's gig in Paris on October 6th, October 7th could have appeared sad and dull... Until another extraordinary concert was anounced! Indeed, the Lucksmiths, Watoo Watoo & Mumbly will play at the Pop'In!!! The Lucksmiths are Australian, and are cousins (for real) of the Sugargliders. And are apparently influenced by B&S & Sarah Records. Watoo Watoo & Mumbly are cousins of their cousins, and like Felt and also B&S and Sarah Records (how strange!) This free concert will take place on October 7th, starting at 8.30pm at the Pop'in bar, 105 rue Amelot, Paris 11eme. __^o^__ Michael Korchia mkorchia at club-internet.fr Watoo Watoo Homepage : http://www.mygale.org/05/watoo/ Mumbly Homepage : http://www.mygale.org/00/aurore/emumbly.htm +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cchaffin at xxx.org Tue Sep 29 15:24:28 1998 From: cchaffin at xxx.org (Christa Chaffinch) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:24:28 -0400 Subject: Sinister: well, I agree with you Mark Message-ID: I wasn't going to say anything about this (tyring to be diplomatic, you know)...but I agree that not liking St Etienne is a pretty lame excuse for leaving this list. Or that we don't talk enough about B&S?? Ummm... what?! We talk more (by far) about the "real" subject matter than any other list I've been on. And I , also, have been listening to B&S for quite a while now- what makes this guy think he's more of a fan than I am, or any of us? I don't like B&S because I'm trying to be "cool", and I don't belong to this list to be "cool". I just really like their music, and I resent any implication otherwise. By the way, I never liked Mudhoney or Dead C (sorry), and I was a serious cardigan wearing, ribbons in my hair kindof girl, even in 1992. :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 16:52:15 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:52:15 GMT Subject: Sinister: I am curious, yellow Message-ID: <3610fae6.7091231@post.demon.co.uk> Dear Helen, When are we going to see you get your kit off? ...ooops, sorry, wrong letter. Corpora wrote: >Don't be a hard rock when you really are a gem, girlfriend, lemme break >it down for you again. Eeeee, bitter/cold. Either I'm stupid or that's just gibberish. And I'm not stupid. >I don't like turncoats. I don't like shellsuits, but I don't go on about it. >All the people on this list sure weren't half this adorable in 1992. All of us? It's an interesting viewpoint. >What I mean is that they were all listening to Fugazi and Mudhoney and >the Dead C blah blah oooh I'm an angry young thing with a point to prove >even if it bears no relation to reality I feel things so much more strongly >than anyone else just like Oliver Stone band that will come on the scene >right now with some swelling string sections and sly, blase lyrics would >evince an instant kill-at-will response. Obviously, this is complete and utter bollocks, designed to provoke a reaction. Just imagine how successful today's bands would be if they had thought of such a clever and original form of self-publicity. Incidentally, I don't think our friend was leaving the list because he didn't like Saint Etienne, I think he was quoting that as an example, and he was leaving because he was bored with 90% of the posts. I simply can't imagine why. I forgot to mention Chris wearing blue nail varnish in Stockholm. I was hoping that it would be blue and yellow as some kind of tribute to the country was in, but nevertheless it was a nice touch, I thought. Talking of Scandinavian bands, has anyone heard the Opel Bastards? I've heard they're very good. Keith, Bez and I are going for a curry and some bouze tonight. Thought you'd like to know. Can I go home now please? Love Tag x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jbrent at xxx.ca Tue Sep 29 22:11:23 1998 From: jbrent at xxx.ca (Jason Brent) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:11:23 -0700 Subject: Sinister: IS IT TRUE? Message-ID: <36114CFA.96015E79@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca> Hello all. I was just reading the latest issue of CMJ, and the review they had of B&S. They compared them to a band I have never heard of called Lullaby For The Working Class. Can anyone shed some light on who this band is, and whether this is a worthy comparison. I'm wondering how such a great band (since they sound like B&S) slipped through my paws. Any insight would be greatly appreciated! Cheers JAY +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Tue Sep 29 21:17:00 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 21:17:00 Subject: Sinister: Cane 141 Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19980929211700.2b2f0fe0@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Hi all, The french tape copist strikes again. I've read a review of an new album by a band called Cane 141. The journalist writes that it sounds like belle&sebastian, Nick Drake, the Go-Betweens. Interesting, isn't it ? Has anyone listened to this album ? xx Philippe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From basslerp at xxx.edu Tue Sep 29 20:40:09 1998 From: basslerp at xxx.edu (Bassler) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:40:09 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: The boy with the stereo lab Message-ID: OK, take the song "The Boy With the Arab Strap", remove the "swing" beat, add straight-ahead 4/4 drums (w/ plenty of ride cymbal), droning organ, the occasional bubbly Moog, a couple of well-placed harmonies, and me thinks you've got a pretty great idea for a perfect Stereolab cover. Granted, I guess add those elements to about any song, and you're in Stereolab territory, but the whole idea hit me while listenin' to TBWTAS today. *big shrugs* Back to the house of pain, RPB +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 21:13:07 1998 From: Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com (Anastasia Signoretta) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:13:07 EDT Subject: Sinister: IS IT TRUE? Message-ID: hiya, if my memory serves me correctly... how cmj of cmj to make that comparison. lullaby for the working class are a band with a great name and not much else. 'country' is the best description i can put forth without sounding too harsh. i've only heard one or two of their songs, maybe it's not fair of me to be posting this...but the band was featured on a complilation put out by their label last year (the label? it was something creek something or other records, highly indie rock kind of thing) and i had to review the record for the radio station at my college...i didn't give a very favorable review. so i don't like lullaby for the working class, even though i thought i would because of their name. i don't consider a comparison to b+s a compliment to our beloved glaswegians. but some people don't know what they're writing about half the time. by the way...got a clipping at work today of the review in 'usa today' for 'arab strap'...called b+s 'paranoid.' bwhahaha. anyhow...i continue to nurse my cold...have pretty days and nights... stasia anastasia signoretta atlantic records international media relations 1290 avenue of the americas 24th floor new york, ny 10104 212.707.2619 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 'but how can i see stars if my feet are on the ground?' ride ------------- Original Text >From "Jason Brent" , on 9/29/98 5:11 PM: Hello all. I was just reading the latest issue of CMJ, and the review they had of B&S. They compared them to a band I have never heard of called Lullaby For The Working Class. Can anyone shed some light on who this band is, and whether this is a worthy comparison. I'm wondering how such a great band (since they sound like B&S) slipped through my paws. Any insight would be greatly appreciated! Cheers JAY +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ t InetReceived: from gatekeeper.wmg.com by corp.wmg.com via 207.142.212.98 with SMTP-TCP; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:16:44 EDT InetReceived: from internalif.wmg.com ([207.142.212.97]) by gatekeeper.wmg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA03055 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:05:35 -0400 (EDT) InetReceived: from envy.ph.ed.ac.uk ([129.215.72.168]) by internalif.wmg.com via smtpd (for gatekeeper.wmg.com [207.142.212.98]) with SMTP; 29 Sep 1998 19:12:21 UT InetReceived: from localhost (daemon at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA20253; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:08:19 +0100 InetReceived: by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:07:51 +0100 InetReceived: (from majordomo at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA20197 for sinister-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:07:43 +0100 InetReceived: from callisto.uwinnipeg.ca (root at callisto.uwinnipeg.ca [142.132.1.23]) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA20193 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:07:39 +0100 InetReceived: from callisto.uwinnipeg.ca (sdi4m15.uwinnipeg.ca [142.132.53.16]) by callisto.uwinnipeg.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA27562 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:07:39 -0500 (CDT) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Angelina.DeGiovanni at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 20:37:12 1998 From: Angelina.DeGiovanni at xxx.com (Angelina.DeGiovanni at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:37:12 -0400 Subject: Sinister: IS IT TRUE? Message-ID: <8525668E.006B4E7D.00@v2music.com> Lullaby for the Working Class are on Bar/None in the States and Rykodisc in the UK. They're from Lincoln, Nebraska. I happen to think they do the slow-core orchestrated country-ish thing very nicely. Kinda like Rex., another great underrated band. I think they were a couple mentions of them on this list around 6 months ago or so... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Angelina.DeGiovanni at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 20:42:21 1998 From: Angelina.DeGiovanni at xxx.com (Angelina.DeGiovanni at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:42:21 -0400 Subject: Sinister: IS IT TRUE? Message-ID: <8525668E.006B4E7D.00@v2music.com> Lullaby for the Working Class are on Bar/None in the States and Rykodisc in the UK. They're from Lincoln, Nebraska. I happen to think they do the slow-core orchestrated country-ish thing very nicely. Kinda like Rex., another great underrated band. I think they were a couple mentions of them on this list around 6 months ago or so... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ASTROPOP20 at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 20:44:23 1998 From: ASTROPOP20 at xxx.com (ASTROPOP20 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:44:23 EDT Subject: Sinister: Belle & Sebastian live? Message-ID: <5b253898.36113897@aol.com> anyone ou there have any live Belle & Sebastian live shows? from whenever? I would love trade...if youve got the goods, i'd be really into getting that... heres my list: http://members.aol.com/astropop20/bootlegs.html let me know NEIL +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TWidmer at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 20:52:32 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:52:32 -0700 Subject: Sinister: NBSC: Stripped cover Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF032A714B@amerwksnt01.xil.com> <> That would be Rammstein. They're German and scare me. It's part of a bizarre new-ish DM tribute, including Monster Magnet, Dishwalla and Fat Bob Smith & Co contributing. You've been warned. Oh, and Smashing Pumpkins too. Just last night I was reminiscing about how entertaining young Billy was when he appeared as the cherubic brother of the loveable ginger robot girl on "Small Wonder" a few years back.....*sigh* child stars, it all goes wrong for them doesn't it? Twice as adorable in '98, ta tara +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kcooke at xxx.uk Tue Sep 29 17:08:00 1998 From: kcooke at xxx.uk (Kevan Cooke) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:08:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Beck Message-ID: <70330530016A1600@c2gate.tcom.co.uk> There was an interesting article in the Observer last Sunday about how Beck is Alan Hansen's grandson. This explains the lyrics of "Devil's Haircut" as Beck is obviously concerned that he has inherited his grandfather's hairstyle. I'm sure you will all remember Dennis Pennis' proof that the Liverpool defender turned football pundit is the devil - he used to dress in red, wear the number six, and was afraid of crosses. Apologies for the gratuitous football reference and total lack of B&S content. I can confirm that Adrian looks nothing like an Avenger. If I had recognised him after Shepherds Bush I would never have stood there at the bar leering lustfully at his Kate and throwing him menacing looks. Kevan The Fat Slug +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Scott_Turner at xxx.COM Tue Sep 29 20:59:19 1998 From: Scott_Turner at xxx.COM (Scott Turner) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:59:19 -0400 Subject: Sinister: November 1 NY tickets? Message-ID: <8525668E.006D9BE3.00@JHMAIL.JH.COM> Looking for 2 or 1 ticket for the 1st NY show. Email me privately. thanks, .scott +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Samiam82 at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 21:21:13 1998 From: Samiam82 at xxx.com (Samiam82 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:21:13 EDT Subject: Sinister: #379 Message-ID: <3106a35b.36114139@aol.com> On the subject, on holiday in Tunisia recntly I was woooed by the >wonders of German satelite TV, on which I saw someone cover DM's >"Stripped" in a sort of Extreme Noise Terror sort of way. I don't >suppose any of our Euro-buddies know who whis was. I don't want to buy >it...it was shit...just curious. The band is Rammstein. They are pretty big in the states right now and are headlining some bad rock shows. I work in a music store and the kids constantly come in asking for them. Their cover of Stripped is a bit crude, to say the least...haha -Linsay +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From donovan at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 21:33:15 1998 From: donovan at xxx.com (donovan finn) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:33:15 -0400 Subject: Sinister: NYC shows Message-ID: It is my understanding that the Supper Club shows are both 21+ and both sold out. We are *attempting* to get that show changed to all ages or 18+ or at least to be a little lenient....more as soon as I know more. The Boston show is also sold out. Cheers to whoever mentioned Bob Hund in an earlier post. Good rock. -donovan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Niceaction at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 22:05:22 1998 From: Niceaction at xxx.com (Niceaction at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:05:22 EDT Subject: Sinister: Supper Club over 21 !! NOOOOOOOOOO Message-ID: <182ce927.36114b92@aol.com> if this is true then i am well and truely buggered !! due to the fact that an 18+ was given to the chicago gig and nothing was put next to the NY one, i brought tickets for both days.. I need to know whats happening asap, cos ive just brought my flight from gatwick, and am trying to get hotels and shit.. !! PLEASE HELP !! Jamie The boy with the poo in his pants +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SPRFNK at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 22:12:42 1998 From: SPRFNK at xxx.com (SPRFNK at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:12:42 EDT Subject: Sinister: Supper Club over 21 !! NOOOOOOOOOO Message-ID: well it doesnt' say anything on the ticket that it is 21 and over--so i seriously doubt it is--and i have tickets for both shows---and if it is--all hell will be breaking loose when i get there +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mdellima at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 22:25:04 1998 From: mdellima at xxx.com (mark del lima) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:25:04 -0700 Subject: Sinister: subscribe Message-ID: <199809292118.OAA19046@scv2.apple.com> subscribe sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 23:28:56 1998 From: Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com (Anastasia Signoretta) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:28:56 EDT Subject: Sinister: the final word about the supper club Message-ID: okay, the news is in... i just phoned the supper club and... the nice man named richard told me... the gigs are... 16 and over. so sleep well tonight, kiddies...you'll get to coo in person over your idols instead of just driving your parents crazy with repeat plays of 'arab strap'. though i was hoping it was 21+ so a lot of you would be selling your tickets to some of my unfortunate over-21 friends who don't have any. oh well... cheers, stasia anastasia signoretta atlantic records international media relations 1290 avenue of the americas 24th floor new york, ny 10104 212.707.2619 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 'but how can i see stars if my feet are on the ground?' ride ------------- Original Text >From , on 9/29/98 5:12 PM: well it doesnt' say anything on the ticket that it is 21 and over--so i seriously doubt it is--and i have tickets for both shows---and if it is--all hell will be breaking loose when i get there +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From arab_strap at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 23:02:07 1998 From: arab_strap at xxx.com (Greg Pallis) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:02:07 PDT Subject: Sinister: sinister: comparison to lullaby for the working class Message-ID: <19980929220207.19350.qmail@hotmail.com> >>Hello all.I was just reading the latest issue of CMJ, and the review they had of B&S. They compared them to a band I have never heard of called Lullaby For The Working Class. Can anyone shed some light on who this band is,and whether this is a worthy comparison. I'm wondering how such a great band (since they sound like B&S) slipped through my paws. Any insight would be greatly appreciated! Cheers JAY I have heard LFTWC, and indeed they are ace, but sound very little like b+s, well, not that different, like b+s would sound is Stu M's voice was a bit lower and they didn't have a cellist and liked sampled orchestras. As much like b+s as anyone. And their single astronaut was wonderful, in fact, I think I shall buy it, since u have reminded me. Check them out! All Anarchists are sexy: (We all want as support for B+S/want b+s to support/love/worship Alec Empire) Greg ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jmiall at xxx.ca Tue Sep 29 23:05:51 1998 From: jmiall at xxx.ca (Jill Miall) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 98 18:05:51 EDT Subject: Sinister: Openers?? Message-ID: <199809292205.SAA04229@wabakimi.chat.carleton.ca> sorry if it's been mentionned before, but does anyone know who opens up for belle & sebastian for the october 24th show in toronto? thanks!! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Tue Sep 29 23:09:07 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:09:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: "An ex-director in the bar-room fighting, Norman Tebbit on his bike reciting, feed the world". In-Reply-To: <199809290145.CAA24363@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000101bdebf5$c6d7fac0$8f0f93c3@whelan> Sarah, who was once the comedy side kick partner of Charlton Heston, wrote.... > Lets start with the nice bit :) > That adorable lovely sugar coated not exactly and iceberg, but he's been > laughed at by Ian Broudie, Gary of Done-ness, wrote : Why I oughta..... GRRRRR!. Stop it right now, if you even consider mentioning certain films of the 1970's, i'll confiscate your Barbie lollies. > >*waves arms about in comedy scouser mode* aye aye, calm down calm down. 87) > >All the same though, I can vouch that the fluffster is never boring, dull or > >drab. 87) > > Awww! And well aren't you a sweetiepie my darling :) Me! Dull! Boring! > Drab! NEVER! If I had to be I'd just run away to an exciting land full > of joy and laughter, Or the Wirral Peninsula to give it it's proper title..... I have great confidence that Mr Mitchell will back me up on this one. 87) > >Is everyone supposed to be listing their fave music then I take it. Ok here > >goes, SFA, GZM, Melys, Felt, Julian Cope/Teardrop Explodes, The Crocketts > >(shut it Fluffy), The The, Stump, Half Man Half Biscuit and Power of Dreams. > > OK. NOOOO! The Crocketts are crap!!!! I just have to scream this to a > mailing list, apart from The Crocketts, Gary has reasonable taste in > choons. Please forgive him. Leave 'em alone, they're great. byyyyyyyyyeeeeeee Gary +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vegasbaby at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 23:41:14 1998 From: vegasbaby at xxx.com (Courtney Knopf) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:41:14 PDT Subject: Sinister: Reminder! Message-ID: <19980929224114.22928.qmail@hotmail.com> hi everyone! Just a quick reminder to let you know that my radio show is on tonight. You can catch me from midnight-4am Pacific time (8am-noon Wednesday morning in the UK and 5-9pm wednesday evening in Sydney, Aus). The URL to catch it in Real Audio is: http://kscr.usc.edu and then click on the Live Stream option. If you'd like to call in any requests, you may do so at 213.740.1483. Thanks to everyone who listened last week! And Dan, I'll play your requests tonight, i promise:) ~Courtney The Sultraness of Swing "No beer? Well where the hell's Gutter?!" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ultaltwavr at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 23:54:05 1998 From: Ultaltwavr at xxx.com (Ultaltwavr at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:54:05 EDT Subject: Sinister: Do you remember the first time? Message-ID: <9c4f0a5f.3611650d@aol.com> Hi all, I've seen a few mentions of the Swedish band Bob Hund in the last several posts. I can't really say I know their music, but I'd like to. I don't think you can buy their CDs here in New York, but if anyone sees it, let me know. I saw them at the Roskilde Festival in 97, and they were sort of goofy. But the relevant point concerning this mailing list is that I saw one of their videos on Italian TV near the end of last year (I think it was filmed backward with them going down the street) within ten minutes of the first (and last) time I ever saw the video for "Century of Fakers". That half an hour in the middle of the night was indeed quite special. Cheers, Steve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From noelani30 at xxx.com Tue Sep 29 23:57:56 1998 From: noelani30 at xxx.com (Jessica Noelani Wright) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:57:56 PDT Subject: Sinister: ? Message-ID: <19980929225756.28095.qmail@hotmail.com> hey all US kids... what night and what time is Alternative Nation on? thanks, jess ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Wed Sep 30 00:17:13 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:17:13 EDT Subject: Sinister: d'you feel like a remnant of something that's past? Message-ID: hi popkids as if you couldn't already tell by my total disregard for capitalization during this post, i'm feeling a little bit shitty today. and yesterday. and maybe tomorrow. is it possible to get shit poisoning? i just ask 'cause i had to wade through raw sewage in an underpass yesterday, and i woke this morning with a huge cold, and the whole works. happy bunny? no. and then i met my beautiful love and her new boyfriend, listened to his 'paki jokes', looked at his twatty undercut, and vapid smile and wondered how anyone so fantastic could go out with someone in such desperate need of a kicking. 'I don't actually like any music' he said, in a pause between his chubby-brown esque rib ticklers. 'I don't really listen to any.' C**t. Annnyway! Business in hand: Corpora Arenacea wrote: <> What the fuck would you know about it? I don't listen to B&S 'cause they're fashionable, or because, hey, their sleeves are 'just so so cute'. I listen because when you've watched the girl you love walk off with some bloody idiot with no respect or feelings for her, for the nth time, it's nice to have someone else in your corner. I find it quite hard to get on sometimes, knowing that I'll lose out to the bastards every time, that real love is out of date. And it may be sad, but at least I get some solace from the empathy in Stuart's lyrics. No one else writes songs as personal and affecting as Belle and Sebastian today, and all the 'cellists come lately' in the world won't change that fact. If you really see us that way, then you clearly know very little about the band, and about the list. The list is full of adorable people, as any picnicer, across the globe will tell you. What were we doing in 92? Waiting for Belle and Sebastian. (BTW what kind of a name is Corpora Arenacea for a B&S fan? I'm sure it means something terribly clever, but it just makes you sound as if you fuck corpses my dear.) I sincerly expect and deserve a honeybollocking for all this, but I can't apologise, I'd leave first. I'll stand being accused of being twee, or of being cliched, but never of being insincere. It really hurts. Talking of lovely people (and we really should), I second Padraic's eulogy. Linda and Rory are uncommonly sweet people, and you New Yorkers should be fighting for the honour of hosting them. Not only did they hold the picnic in their lovely house, but Rory graciously entertained me and FunkyFred all through the night, with his outstanding record collection. I considered buying some FunkyFarahs in tribute to you Rory, but I just can't carry them off the way you do. Respect. And it was lovely to see so many absolute stars at the picnic-all the gorgeous regulars, and all the even more gorgeous new people. (especially the ones who were nice about my drunken singing). I love you all very much. anyway, maybe I'll see you all around. seb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tdzF94 at xxx.edu Wed Sep 30 01:26:12 1998 From: tdzF94 at xxx.edu (The Trainspotter) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:26:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Boston Show In-Reply-To: <5b253898.36113897@aol.com> Message-ID: ahh, I didn't think it would sell out so soon - the boston show that is. does anyone have any extra ticketsd? one or two? pretty please! i'll make you a belle and sab shrinky dink and stuff. -teri http://hampshire.edu/~tdzF94/ - Inspired by the writings of the eighteeth century Venetian gambler, eroticist and spy. "The day didn't go too well. Too many chocolates and cigarettes, I kept thinking of you and almost walking into lampposts." Pulp "I may sit in a bar where the cocktails are but I really don't feel like talking I ride around and let the darkness fall 'cause I've got a sense of perfection and nothing else makes sense at all." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From janine at xxx.com Wed Sep 30 02:55:57 1998 From: janine at xxx.com (Janine Papp) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:55:57 -0500 Subject: Sinister: NYC Meetup Oct. 5? Message-ID: hey sinisterines who will be in NYC: how about we all meet up on October 5th, Brad's first day in New York? He doesn't know anyone in NYC and wants to meet all of us. He's traveling all the way from Georgia. Also, I was thinking of making it a little birthday party for my friend Kris, whose birthday is the next day. Some of you NYC Sinisterines may have met him at the last picnic. He's not on the list, but he loves Belle and Sebastian, and he's a beautiful sensitive shy boy. I would suggest the meeting place as: The Library, a bar on Ave. A just above Houston, which has books and bad movies and nice bartenders and doesn't get too crowded and has a great jukebox. Let's say - 9:00 pm? oh, by the way, I met a nyc sinisterine there once and I ended up bringing 15 friends along... don't say I didn't warn you. (feel free to bring whoever YOU want, too) E-mail me with questions, complaints, nasty glances, love notes, etc. Queen Bee Janine +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From greggbk at xxx.edu Wed Sep 30 02:01:50 1998 From: greggbk at xxx.edu (Gregg Bucken-Knapp) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 21:01:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: USA Today review.. In-Reply-To: <199809300047.BAA01378@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: anastasia signoretta mentioned: "by the way...got a clipping at work today of the review in 'usa today' for 'arab strap'...called b+s 'paranoid.' bwhahaha." Right -- this of course coming from a paper that can't tackle a topic unless it can somehow be reduced to a simplistic pie chart, replete with garish primary colors. So, bwahaha on them indeed. Gregg. ============================================================================== Gregg Bucken-Knapp Three for today: Department of Political Science 1. Versus The George Washington University 2. Mick Harvey Washington DC 20052 3. Dag Vag greggbk at gwu.edu ===================http://gwis2.circ.gwu.edu/~greggbk========================= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Samiam82 at xxx.com Wed Sep 30 04:00:09 1998 From: Samiam82 at xxx.com (Samiam82 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:00:09 EDT Subject: Sinister: ? Message-ID: <83394386.36119eb9@aol.com> In a message dated 9/29/98 6:13:23 PM Central Daylight Time, noelani30 at hotmail.com writes: << hey all US kids... what night and what time is Alternative Nation on? >> At least for me... I live near Chicago... Alternative nation is not on anymore. They have awful Carson Daly shows instead. Sunday nights from 11-1am though 120 minutes is on.... usually. -Linsay +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Wed Sep 30 06:23:23 1998 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 01:23:23 EDT Subject: Sinister: another review of TBWTAS Message-ID: from the zine "Velocity" out of Chicago: Last year, IYFS turned a lark octet called Belle & Sebastian into a bit of a global cult. After various EPS, TBWTAS follows with more of the most exceptionally strange and unabashed pop music since ...well, imagine the Association as Scottish loafers and the aural picture only begins to form. There's also a hint of Sly & The Family Stone (not nearly so funky, of course), because Belle & Sebastian don't debate the fineries of genre. Apathetic about purism, they balance the twee tendencies of their folk-style reveries with elegantly spare musical elaborations-pure pop trumpet, lounge organ, yearning violin- and a cheerfully dark view of the world. They depict life without purpose, yet while they see narrow entrapment and parochialism, they escape across the discovery of their own potential. Their infectious music feels like the simplest revelation, the opening of vast possibilty in the banal; the real point, should there be one, to pop music. review written by Jon M. Gilbertson Pete +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From susannah at xxx.net Wed Sep 30 07:46:29 1998 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 98 06:46:29 GMT Subject: Sinister: list confusion References: Message-ID: <980930064629.n0017258.tormentor@mail.clara.net> on 28 Sep 98, Putneysays at aol.com wrote... > >Hello, i've just joined this list, and already I've been awed by the abundance >of e-mail I've been getting from it...you rival the porn artists who insist on >filling my mail box, bravo! But before I write any reamrks that can be deemed >disparaging, I was just curious about the age limit of the supper Club. I've >heard all sorts of odd rumors about it, saying that the show is 21+, 18+, and >oddest of all, 16+...either way, does anyone know how good the chances of a 14 >year old girl snekaing into the Supper Club past the scary bouncers? Yes, we >all know that Stuart Murdoch has an unhealthy infatuation with nubile young >school girls such as myself. Do you think that if I showed a bit of leg under >the pleated skirt of my school unfiorm, he'll lust and put me on the guest >list? Speculation and condescending remarks about my age are welcome, someone >please answer me. >Thanks, >Susannah Look everybody, this is not me!!! I know I have been quiet for ooh rather a while now, but its all down to the fact that I am spending most of my waking life in that shit hole they call Stevenage on a 'training' course (sorry Trousers but its true) and when I finally return back at home to my PC I find I've 300 messages to plough through). And I've got bags of rude mails up my sleeve, its just finding the time to write them. Basically 'Susannah', tough luck love but you'll have to find yourself another name, but hang on, I rather like the idea of getting confused with a fresh faced, nubile shoolgirl, hmmm. Actually I will give it a go and ask muggins to put you on the guest list, you WILL have to wear your school uniform though. He likes that sort of thing. Susannah. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Wed Sep 30 12:24:32 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:24:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: B&S Comparisans Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7B68@COR-EXG1> On the subject of the many B&S comparisans bounding around, have you noticed on Dirty Dream that if you were to take Struans vocals out, Stevies guitar, Stuarts bass, Chris's keyboards, Isobelles little ditty in the middle and anything Sarah or Mick does, it sounds incredibly like my 18 month nephew bashing the living shit out of his drum ? Kevan "Big-Issue" Cooke wrote : >I can confirm that Adrian looks nothing like an Avenger. I have no wheels for a start. >If I had recognised him after Shepherds Bush I would never have stood there >at the bar leering lustfully at his Kate and throwing him menacing >looks. No no no no no no no no no. I was scared, I swore I was on for a beating, it couldn't possibly be anyone on the list. Genuine Miller wrote on the subject of Rammstein : >I don't think it's that bad to be honest. Especially the line about making >decisions without your television, a classic I think, especially when >GRRRRROWLED. Oh let's cut the crap Peter, you just like the video. Mark C wrote : >Just thought I'd write to ask if anyone's going to the Delgados Union >Chapel gig in London this Thursday? Mark, if it was anything like Exeter last night they were chuffing brilliant. A bit on the "polished act" side of things, but they were reet fookin loud and truly wonderful. And just HOW HOW HOW does a wee lass like that have such a strong voice....she must have a big pair of lungs, not that I could see cos she was so small. Byebye Playmates. PS I've just realised that I'm seeing DM at Wemberlee tonight and I'm an Arsenal fan...I wonder if I could swap my ticket with some poor unsuspecting Greek ??? Adrian. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Wed Sep 30 12:33:18 1998 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetryplace2) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:33:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Shine on Harvey Williams Message-ID: <01bdec66$1ef16dc0$046b9ac2@g5-200-1> Hey kids, rock and roll, nobody tells you where to go. I woke up this morning in a skip in Tufnel Park. If anybody has sightings of me since Saturday evening, I would be very grateful for any information. But to cut to the chase: this Friday, October 2nd Mr Harvey Williams will be performing at the Social at the Poetry Cafe. Some of you may be familiar with his previous work with The Fieldmice and Another Sunny Day, and, um, Harvey Williams. For new members of the list, the Social was set up as an excuse for a few of us on the list in London to have a bit of a larf on a Friday evening, it's a regular monthly thing. Entry will be £2. Doors open from 7ish, Harvey will go on at about 9pm. The address is 22 Betterton Street, London WC2H 9BU, near Covent Garden tube. Everyone is welcome. I promise to nurse a glass of Vimto all evening. Thankyou for all your sinister haiku, by the way. I am composing an update, which I'll post some time this week. Trousers +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Scott_Turner at xxx.COM Wed Sep 30 12:46:28 1998 From: Scott_Turner at xxx.COM (Scott Turner) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 07:46:28 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Lullabye 4tWC Message-ID: <8525668F.003FD9E4.00@JHMAIL.JH.COM> Lullabye for the Working Class are a GREAT band!!!!!!!!! relation to B&S? 1. Well, they don't have a P!O!P! bone in their collective bodies. So don't go buying their stuff thinking you're going to get lots of dreamy pop to whistle while you ride your bicycle on a sunny orange fall day. 2. Their instrumentation is really expansive. lots of american folk instruments and horns and violins and vibes, yada yada yada. 3. A fairer comparison: Imagine if the Tindersticks lived on a farm in a small town in nebraska. They are kindof alt-country, but not really. Their sound is far more mature and complex than most other no-depression stuff. 4. They are part of a midwestern collective of bands that pool money together and help each other out. 4. They are one of the best bands i've ever heard. .scott On 29 September at 21:11 GMT, Jason Brent Message-ID: <36121D9C.C5A66769@easynet.co.uk> Anastasia Signoretta wrote: > if my memory serves me correctly... > > how cmj of cmj to make that comparison. lullaby for the working class are > a band with a great name and not much else. 'country' is the best > description i can put forth without sounding too harsh... Lullaby for The Working Class make lovely, lovely records. Get hold of 'I Never Even Asked For Light'. Downbea(u)t(y). Alt. Country, if you're wrong-headed enough to think that 'country' is, by default, a derogatory term. There's a link below to a review which'll do nicely... Click here for 'I Never...' review > but some people don't know what they're writing about half the time. [Pulls De Niro 'whatever' face] > 'but how can i see stars > if my feet are on the ground?' > My Bloody Anodyne If my memory serves me correctly, you tilt your head back. Ride, eh ? Turt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From padraic_fresheire at xxx.com Wed Sep 30 13:19:27 1998 From: padraic_fresheire at xxx.com (padraic doorey) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 05:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: harvey williams - the shining Message-ID: <19980930121927.15929.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> ah trousers - you are a man of many a talent it seems. besides doing a spot of roofing in the kings cross area late on sunday night, and a few hours kip in the nick next to mine last eveningtide, i am happy to report that your antics since le super picnic at chez rory et linda have been mild. happy to see you made it back to the poetry cafe in one piece (thereabouts). now, the moment mr trousers' mail arrived 'twas funny coz i was listening to a certain harvey williams pleading with someone to quit shouting at him. "don't shout at me" he sang. now he's talking about some lady with a reputation. "she sleeps around" apparently. a sign if ever there was....trousers you are galactic....looking forward to friday especially if you have some sooper Qs ready to expose my secret obsession with glenn mederios. also, can someone please let me know if it is normal to fancy cartoon characters.....this, um, friend of mine has developed a crush on trent from that "daria" show. but the thing is "daria" is on at eleven a.m. on channel5 BUT (*catastrophe*) it clashes with the waltons on channel4....and i also, erm i mean, my friend, also has a huge thing for john-boy walton so there is this HUGE dilemma even though trent has been winning over the past few weeks. if anyone knows of any daria websites featuring the lovely trent please please please let me know (so i can pass them onto my friend).... right, that's almost it. funkyseb, i want to make you some soup. you all hail in heaven, blessed art thou. lady penelope. ******************************************* "now the session's over and it's time to go, am i just another shot in your portfolio?" ******************************************* _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vlass at xxx.com Wed Sep 30 13:51:09 1998 From: vlass at xxx.com (vlass at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:51:09 -0400 Subject: Sinister: a rather tender pervert Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980930125109.006b00bc@mail.interlog.com> hello, my dears.. there's a lovely article about scottish pop in Exclaim, the monthly canadian newspaper-y thing. of course there's tons of talk about the objects of our desire, as well as the pastels, bis, primal scream, mogwai and arab strap.. you can read it for yourself at: http://www.exclaim.ca but, let me give you a tiny excerpt (referring to Aidan from Arab Strap): "But talking to him you get the sense he's a rather tender pervert. Tender and rather shy, he says he's still recovering from hearing a copy of the new Belle and Sebastian album, The BOy with the Arab Strap, earlier in the week. It was the first time he heard lyrics to a song that is quite possibly talking about him. ""I'd heard the song live, but I couldn't understand what he was saying because sound-wise, they're quite terrible. I don't know who their soundman is, but he's not good. I guess I'm just hurt because he never told me about it. I don't think it was meant in a bad way, but I would have liked to have been told about that beforehand." " awwww. misunderstandings suck, don't they? i know because i was involved in far too many yesterday afternoon.. but sigh, that's another story! anyway IYFS is one of the "classic" scottish band albums, yay. a friend of mine saw a girl wearing a cranes t-shirt and chased her down the street. i wish i saw someone with a belle and sebastian shirt -- i would definetely chase them down the street... just got a felt tape in the mail, teri xxx uhhh, so what *is* happening before the toronto show? :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starstruckone at xxx.com Sun Sep 20 01:08:54 1998 From: starstruckone at xxx.com (Zach Braun) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 17:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Re: Music Message-ID: <19980920000854.10506.rocketmail@send1c.yahoomail.com> hello all, here are my favorites: the smiths, pulp, radiohead, divine comedy, husker du, suede, ride, catherine wheel. bye, Zach B. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From S.Ludlam at xxx.com Wed Sep 30 15:45:06 1998 From: S.Ludlam at xxx.com (Simon Ludlam) Date: 30 Sep 98 14:45:06 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Wicked ? Message-ID: Is is wicked not to care what peoples favourite music lists are ? ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are released in confidence and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Tue Sep 29 16:56:50 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:56:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Oh dear Message-ID: <01BDEBCA.279EED90@keith@qss.co.uk> >All the people on this list sure weren't half this adorable in 1992. >What I mean is that they were all listening to Fugazi and Mudhoney and > the Dead C and shit like that because it was vogueish to be into, you > know, the 'extremes of rock', all the Stooges and stuff. Were all the list into this stuff? I know quite a lot of people on the list, but proportionally only a small amount of people, and I've met even less of them, however, this interesting statistic you've come up with seems to suggest that over 700 people were all into Fugazi 6 years ago - and what's more, every last one of them was only in on it to look cool! In that case I suggest this is a far better reason for you to leave the list than a dislike of St.Etienne - who'd want to be hanging around with such a raving bunch of phoneys. I suspect Tim Groves problem with the list at the moment is not just because there's too much talk of St.Etienne going on, but that there's too much shite being talked - like people being accused of things they didn't say, the entire list being accused of being *something* by someone who evidently doesn't know anything about it. And it's a bloody pity. I suppose it was obvious that the list was gonna go through a certain amount of upheaval of late, as naturally there will be a lot of people who've just got into the band coming on, and the numbers certainly have swelled. I don't see why this should cause too many problems really - it is a good thing. There are always a large number of people who're not really interested in what they're talking about, be it Prolapse, Mudhoney or Belle and Sebastian. There's just no point in worrying about it though, cause they're not going to go away - and there are shedloads of people on the list who're genuinely into what they're talking about. I certainly am - I can't see how I can ever pretend to be "cool", my tastes are often too popular for the obscurist crowds and often to obscure for the mainstream crowd. I can't say I really think about it. In any case, here's a joke that was on the radio the other morning... How do you turn a duck into a pop star? Put it in the microwave till it's Bill Withers. Cheers, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paul.field at xxx.com Wed Sep 30 16:22:12 1998 From: paul.field at xxx.com (Paul Field) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 16:22:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: New Boy Message-ID: <01BDEC8E.7BB4CE80.paul.field@cmgplc.com> Hi all, I'm new to this list - no slagging off please, I'm new to email too. Therefore, please forgive my ignorance if my observation has already been noted. To quote from Seymour Stein: "I heard dinner went well, You said you liked Chris' jacket He reminded you of Johnny Before he went electronic" Perchance a reference to Johnny Marr leaving the Smiths (great) and going to Electronic (poor)? I shall now leave you all to RIP. Paul. P.S. A BIG hello to all the London crowd - maybe see some of you soon, but not this Friday unfortunately as I can't make it. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From janine at xxx.com Wed Sep 30 17:41:32 1998 From: janine at xxx.com (Janine Papp) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:41:32 -0500 Subject: Sinister: oops NYC Meetup Oct. 6 not 5 Message-ID: um, brad informs me that he is arriving TUES. not Monday so the meetup would be Oct. 6th - not Oct. 5th as stated in my last post. Queen Bee Janine trying to arrange the sinisterines in the new york city scene buzzed on caffeine +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pors at xxx.fr Wed Sep 30 16:27:39 1998 From: pors at xxx.fr (Nicole Pors-Guilbert) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 17:27:39 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Concert Strasbourg Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980930172739.00685e80@mailhost.inrp.fr> Salut ! URGENT.... Si quelqu'un habitant Strasboug ou ses environs est intéressé par 2 places de concert demain jeudi 1er octobre, je les offre gratuitement au premier qui répond à cet E-mail, avant 18H (ce n'est pas mon E-mail). Pour ce faire, j'ai besoin de vos coordonnées (noms, e-mail, n° de téléphone ou vous joindre). A vos clavier et à bientôt ! E-mail pour la réponse : pors at inrp.fr +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Calumn.Shearer at xxx.uk Wed Sep 30 17:50:48 1998 From: Calumn.Shearer at xxx.uk (Shearer, Calumn) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 17:50:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: You can lead a horse to water... Message-ID: 1) But your pencil must be lead, mate (Half Man Half Biscuit) 2) But if you do, just remember what a wet horse smells like. (William J Connelly, Entertainer) I haven't written much recently, (nothing much to say) but there are plenty of other people doing that one for me... Well, my oh my, hasn't it been a busy wee month? Over 1200 e-mails! and that's not counting the ones I deleted in disgust. (I'm not telling) And the collection of nice, Fluffy (Hi Sarah!), gentle, sinister types keeps growing... at this rate we'll be able to take over the world. Have I just ruined Honey's "Dastardly plan"? Oh, well.. with the immense intellect the man posseses, it won't take him long to think up a new Plan For World Domination... But I digress. The real reason for this little notelet is to "formally" announce that my competition has "fomally" closed. It was wearing a dinner jacket at the time, and that's formal enough for me, thankyouverymuch. So without furtive adon't: Greg... it's yours... as soon as you send me your address, 'cos I lost it. (doh!) Yes Ladies, Gentlemen and Hemaphrodites (seen the new Marylin Manson poster - Yeuch!) the divine, wonderous, even, dare I say it, gorgeous Greg Pallis won my poster, with what I have decided to be the best story I have been sent. Frankly, it was the only story I have been sent. Really... I'm dissapointed in the total lack of effort here. Lazy gits the lot of you. Next time I won't bother... anyway, I copied Gregs "all the song titles" story at the end of this e-mail... read and enjoy. It's really very clever. On other matters, I just recieved my first Tape Tree tape, and it's damn fine. Nice to know I'm not the only one that's bought "Kevin McDermott" ;-) I am however seriously paranoid about my tape.... Is it up to scratch? It's got a nice cover, I'll give it that. Hey ho, It's in London now. Good luck with it, chaps - and I hope it doesn't make your ears bleed too much (tee hee) Quick answers to current topics: Tigermilk dedication: Keith answered it but I think your either despicable for cheating, or commendable for using your initiative. you choose. Song lists: End it. now. I really don't care what music you're into. It's probably all good, anyway. If one band or another turns up "in the conversation" as it were, are we going to get a whole host of "oh, I like them too" one -line emails? If so, I'm outa here. Better things to do than to delete those. And, at the risk of getting flamed, the whole "ethnic/black music" debate's been done to death soooooo many times, it gets on my nerves every time. Music's music. Regardless. Some is Good. Some is Bad. Some is Korn (sorry!) but it's never been a colour. At least, not without some serious psychadelics. I seem to remember that the guitar part to "D'ya make her" by Led Zeppelin was blue, once.... What's the criteria for a "monday poem"? It seems to be a nomination thing, but I've been collecting all these wonderful, witty, poignant poems, just on the off chance I'm picked.... but noone cares. Is there a central list of "poetry people"? Is it all just a big conspiracy? have I been drinking too much Coffee? Tune in next week to find out!... While I'm on a ramble, as it were, Here's a true story (It happened to me today!) Hadn't checked my e-mail all morning.... I would choose 12:10 to check whether this PC I'm fixing can see the rest of the network. A Good Way to do that? - check my mail! See how many belle and sebastian letters I've got in the last 16 hours... But, unbeknownst to me... Karen (of IT) has rebooted the server, sending an e-mail warning that between 12:00 and 12:15 e-mail's a no-go area. But I haven't checked my mail today, so I can't get in. I don't know why. But then,when I decide to try again, after fiddling with the PC going "I'll soon fix that!" - _she's_ fixed it, so I can get in again. (I'm thinking - I didn't _do_ anything, and it's fixed?!?) and she sends an e-mail round telling everyone that we're "back up again" to sum up: I get an e-mail saying why I couldn't get e-mail, when I couldn't get e-mail... but then there's another e-mail saying that I can now get e-mail now that I can? I think I'm using e-mail too much! Enjoy the US gigs, all those that are going, and I missed my hiaku for Trous' Competition, so I'm adding one here... 404 File not Found. I ate your web page It was tasty and tart on my tongue As seen on our web server, until the boss found out ;-) (well, I was bored!) GREG'S STORY (untitled, I think) Lazy line painter Jane(1) put the book back on the shelf(2). She had planned to sleep the clock around(3), but unusually, she felt like seeing other people(4). Her book, A century of Elvis(5), was interesting, but after her dirty dream number two(6) of the night, she couldn't concentrate. Mary Jo(7), meanwhile was taking her kids to the theme park... These kids are all I have left, she thought. It could have been a brilliant career(8) she thought. But he had screwed up her life, there could be no arguing about that. They'd met when she was a young girl armed with just expectations(9) and talent. He had seemed perfect, like Dylan in the movies(10). He had never even cared about the simple things(11) like the ages of the children. 'Is it wicked not to care?'(12) she would ponder. One of the kids, Jamie, pulled at her leg. He was the youngest, seven and a half. He had a slow, ponderous way of talking, which she secretly admired. "Mummy" he said. "You know how you have cow milk and goat milk?". She nodded. "Can you have tiger milk?(13)" She laughed at his question. "You made me forget my dreams(14)" she laughed. "Of course you can." Then he ran off, buzzing like a mayfly (15) Jenny was nine and five foot already. She posed outside the entrance to the park. At her request, Mary took a photo. Jenny (16) was beautiful (17), in a way, but her height had her schoolfriends calling her "String Bean Jean"(18). Finally there was Otto, fourteen years old and walking sullenly along. He thought he was far too old to be here, he wanted to be with his girlfriend Seymour Stein(19). Mary had to promise him a go on the rollercoaster ride(20) to make him comply, even though she considered it far too dangerous. She was convinced Seymour was the wrong love(21) for him, but she didn't say so to him face. Trying to start a conversation, she asked him about his birthday. "Who was that band you like?" , she inquired. "Belle and Sebastion(22)" he replied, barely breaking out of his frown for a moment.Finally, Mary became annoyed. If your feeling sinister(23) she bellowed, "Go and wait for us by the roundabout!". Mary skulked off towards the ice cream stall, shouting a final "You're just a baby!"(24) to a defiant Otto. "She's losing it"(25) he muttered to himself. Jane had, in the end, also decided to go to the theme park. As she flittered from attraction to attraction, she spotted her old friend Mary, still dragging the 2 remaining kids around. "How's It going?" she cried across the square. Mary gave the kids money for a pizza and ran off to join her friend. Over a coffee, they discuused Mary's problems. "I just don't know what to do about the state I'm in"(26). "I don't love anyone"(27) replied Jane. "It solves most problems", she laughed. "I hope they bury me the day my wandering days are over."(28) When the bill arrived, they realised they'd payed 3.99 for 2 croissants. "La pastie de la Beorgoisie"(29) commented Jane. After that, Mary picked up Otto and gave Jane a lift back. The drove onto the M25, minutes before the warning of congestion came through on GLR. "London has let me down again"(30) sighed Mary. Jane was writing TRAFFIC JAM on a lamppost in a tippex pen. "I call it slow graffiti"(31), she announced proudly. In the back Jenny and Jamie were hatching a plan to take over the world. Jamie chuckled. "We rule the school(32) already" 32 eh? not chuffing bad Greg! And in a tradition (started by Keith yesterday) I'm going to end on a joke... Police arrested two kids yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks.... They charged one and let the other one off. I thank you, and Goodnight! Calumnous Calumn the Calm Calamnity. If it said anything down here it would be a sig, it doesn't so it isn't. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sberkeley at xxx.com Wed Sep 30 14:46:27 1998 From: sberkeley at xxx.com (sberkeley at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 98 08:46:27 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Answers: NYC 21+!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <9809309071.AA907174739@ccm.frontiercorp.com> Fyi: NYC is Sodom: I have never-ever-ever seen any establishment (club, bar, etc) ask for ID of anyone anywhere. I spent my highschool days in NYC since turning 15 and I sure looked it. Remember, this is a city where bars may be open anytime they wish and only must close 4 hours a day: any 4 hours! Worry about something else please... Good luck and regards, -Shamus +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From csomeone at xxx.com Wed Sep 30 18:13:15 1998 From: csomeone at xxx.com (Cynthia Someone) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:13:15 PDT Subject: Sinister: belle et sebastie Message-ID: <19980930171315.10666.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello all, Have any of you taken the trouble to read the book from which b+s get their name? Forgive me, I'm more a dancer than a talker. In peace Cynthia ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com Wed Sep 30 18:51:48 1998 From: Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com (Anastasia Signoretta) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:51:48 EDT Subject: Sinister: Answers: NYC 21+!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: HELLO KIDS? did you not read my e-mail of yesterday? supper club is 16+. thank you. now can we please end this thread and discontinue the littering of my mailbox with pointless posts? stasia (sounding bitter, cos she has a nasty cold, but really is warm and fuzzy) anastasia signoretta atlantic records international media relations 1290 avenue of the americas 24th floor new york, ny 10104 212.707.2619 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 'but how can i see stars if my feet are on the ground?' ride ------------- Original Text >From , on 9/30/98 9:46 AM: Fyi: NYC is Sodom: I have never-ever-ever seen any establishment (club, bar, etc) ask for ID of anyone anywhere. I spent my highschool days in NYC since turning 15 and I sure looked it. Remember, this is a city where bars may be open anytime they wish and only must close 4 hours a day: any 4 hours! Worry about something else please... 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Message-ID: by the way... that thing shamus wrote about nyc not carding anyone anywhere is absolutely not true. you don't live here, do you darling? i even get carded for cigarettes on occasion, and i definitely look older than my 22 years. but no worries kiddies...SUPPER CLUB GIGS ARE 16+!!! okay, carry on... stasia anastasia signoretta atlantic records international media relations 1290 avenue of the americas 24th floor new york, ny 10104 212.707.2619 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 'but how can i see stars if my feet are on the ground?' ride ------------- Original Text >From , on 9/30/98 9:46 AM: Fyi: NYC is Sodom: I have never-ever-ever seen any establishment (club, bar, etc) ask for ID of anyone anywhere. I spent my highschool days in NYC since turning 15 and I sure looked it. Remember, this is a city where bars may be open anytime they wish and only must close 4 hours a day: any 4 hours! Worry about something else please... 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From susannah at xxx.net Wed Sep 30 19:44:49 1998 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 98 18:44:49 GMT Subject: Sinister: B&S lookie-likies Message-ID: <980930184449.n0017276.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Readers. Its been a rather turbulent day for me which has left me floundering in a sea of panic and disbelief. Basically I went out to lunch with a friend/work colleague, and we got on to the subject of how- much- you -weigh. Like girls do. She leant over to me and said ' as a friend Susannah, you could do with losing a few pounds'. WELL! I've never been so insulted in all my life!, and am now at this moment eating watercress and spinach salad for my tea. Straight out the bag too as its less calories that way. Anyway, I have realised that since all the you -know- who's are out the country on a tour or something we can say what we like about them as they shan't be reading the list at the moment, so DIE! you fuckers! Not literally though of course, as if the New York gig is cancelled I shall be very disappointed and demand a refund. On another note, I have come to realise that because the band are so , well, ordinary looking, apart from Chris Geddes who stands out like a beacon against good taste, just about anybody down your way could resemble the *stars* with many *hilarious* ensuing moments. For instance, there's this man down the road who looks so similar to Stevie Jackson, that everytime I see him (knowing full well that this man exists) I jump a bit and think ooh there's Stevie Jackson! Whats he doing in Sainsburys? and what Does he want with that cucumber? I never knew he liked taramosalata and so on and so forth. There's also this alky on the corner , always slumped on a bench with a bottle in a paper bag and his trousers round his ankles who looks exactly like Richard...then again....... Furthermore my boyfriend looks exactly like the trumpeter, even down to the hair, but he's not fooling anyone. AAh, thats it,I've run out of things to say Susannah. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Peter_Magnotta at xxx.com Wed Sep 30 18:46:09 1998 From: Peter_Magnotta at xxx.com (Peter_Magnotta at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:46:09 -0400 Subject: Sinister: NYC Gigs - One more time Message-ID: <8525668F.00612075.00@smtpgate.rdigest.com> I called the Supper Club as well and they told me 21+ both shows. I guess it depends who you talk to. But anyway...half the showgoers will be under 21 - what could the Club do - not let 500 teenagers in?! Don't worry about it. And.....I just got carded in NYC a couple months ago and I'm 31!! Pete +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MileEndGrl at xxx.com Wed Sep 30 18:55:07 1998 From: MileEndGrl at xxx.com (MileEndGrl at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:55:07 EDT Subject: Sinister: Supper club is 16+. PERIOD!, Trembling Blue Stars Message-ID: Kind of off the track, but has anyone heard Trembling Blue Stars and recommend them? I have heard only little things about them and finally found the CD for under $18.+ I know this has been answered, but I just need to put my word in: (it really only applies to people under 21+ freaking out over the NYC Show) No offense, but do any of you actually read the posts? I have said it and someone else has said it! IT IS A 16+ CLUB FOR CONCERTS! Yet you all have this idea that the supper club is 21+. I have been to the supper club 6 times since I turned 16. I called up before I got tickets to make sure. THE ONLY TIME IT IS 21+ is for the SWING CLUB DURING THE WEEK! There enough. End of discusion. It is 16+. Nothing else. Stop freaking! Okay, sorry for this rant. I have just been under a lot of stress! <> Haha, that just struck as me as the typical, cynical new yorker attitude! Very true though. Cass +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kellym at xxx.com Wed Sep 30 19:56:38 1998 From: kellym at xxx.com (Kelly Mc Guire) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:56:38 -0800 Subject: Sinister: New York Folks Message-ID: <199809301800.LAA19756@macbeth.ienet.com> Hey kids... I don't write to the list much, but most of the #sinister chat people know me (a little too well perhaps). So anyway, I'm coming to New York for the B+S Tour Dates at the Supper Club, and was wondering if there are any events or picnics or Sinister parties being held the weekend before the show or whatnot. I'd like to meet some of the strange and beautiful people I'm always reading about... so, yeah, I hope something's going on. Alright, back to work. -Kelly Ryan McGuire kellym at raygun.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ahalter at xxx.edu Wed Sep 30 19:17:34 1998 From: ahalter at xxx.edu (ahalter) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: i choo choo choose you! In-Reply-To: <19980930121927.15929.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: umm well... i love ralph wiggum from the simpsons... i wish that _he_ were my boyfriend... he is great! though this is probably not normal and i have had many people ridicule me for this... and so now probably many more people will... ive said too much... allison 'me fail english? thats unpossible!' > also, can someone please let me know if it is normal to fancy cartoon > characters.....this, um, friend of mine has developed a crush on trent > from that "daria" show. but the thing is "daria" is on at eleven a.m. > on channel5 BUT (*catastrophe*) it clashes with the waltons on > channel4....and i also, erm i mean, my friend, also has a huge thing > for john-boy walton so there is this HUGE dilemma even though trent > has been winning over the past few weeks. if anyone knows of any > daria websites featuring the lovely trent please please please let me > know (so i can pass them onto my friend).... > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ajduric at xxx.com Wed Sep 30 19:20:42 1998 From: ajduric at xxx.com (Alexandra Duric) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:20:42 PDT Subject: Sinister: BRING PEZ TO TORONTO SHOW! Message-ID: <19980930182042.14720.qmail@hotmail.com> Last night my flatmate and I were getting truly excited! In just over 3 weeks, Belle & Sebastian will be in Toronto! So we started thinking and wondering what if all the listees at the show did something to identify ourselves?? So if we miss on a picnic or gathering (and it sounds like there's a few), we can still meet up at the show and be supremely sinister with PEZ dispensers! I'm picking up on an old thread here. Silly maybe, but sweet and in the spirit of B+S. So all you Toronto fans, bring your PEZ, offer it to all you see, and maybe you'll be pleasantly surprised with meeting a listee... alexandra "I like grooves." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pors at xxx.fr Wed Sep 30 19:24:06 1998 From: pors at xxx.fr (Nicole Pors-Guilbert) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:24:06 +0200 Subject: Sinister: donne 2 places pour concert Strasbourg Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980930202406.0068cd60@mailhost.inrp.fr> Salut Je reitere mon appel à ceux qui seraient interesses par 2 places gratuites au concert de B and S a Strasbourg le 01.10.98....! Contactez moi vite sur l'e-mail d'une amie (pors at inrp.fr) en me donnant nom, E-mail et n° de telephone ou vous joindre. Ciao Chafalda +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From barzy at xxx.com Wed Sep 30 20:30:56 1998 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:30:56 -0800 Subject: Sinister: i choo choo choose you! Message-ID: >umm well... i love ralph wiggum from the simpsons... i wish that _he_ >were my boyfriend... he is great! though this is probably not normal and i >have had many people ridicule me for this... and so now probably many more >people >will... >ive said too much... >allison Well ...when I was a kid, I had a crush on Mark and Princess from Battle Of the Planets, as well as Scooby Doo and Bugs Bunny. Now..i've moved on. I fancy Dexter. He's soooooo smart. And is it just me, or does the kid in The Nightmare Before Christmas (the little blond one with the pointy nose who gets the shrunken head for Xmas) look JUST like STUART MURDOCH?? He does! Honest! So I guess I fancy him too. But not as much as Dexter. And that kid who's got the pet Newt is pretty cute as well. Newton? And Ralphie's pretty cute, but if you kissed him his breath would taste of paste and knobs and things. And Wellington Womble's not a cartoon character, but I sure do fancy that little Womble something fierce..but I have a real one, so haha. And he's still ever-so-rather-shy. Maybe I have a problem. beth +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Peter_Magnotta at xxx.com Wed Sep 30 19:40:34 1998 From: Peter_Magnotta at xxx.com (Peter_Magnotta at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:40:34 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Unsubscribe Sinister Message-ID: <8525668F.00662044.00@smtpgate.rdigest.com> Unsubscribe Sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seaborne at xxx.nl Wed Sep 30 21:44:29 1998 From: seaborne at xxx.nl (Koen) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:44:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: promises of pain, promises of torture Message-ID: <002501bdecb3$1ffcbc40$67866dc2@computer> It's good I managed to get a setlist yesterday evening, if I had to rely on my beer-socked memory I couldn't have given you the details of the Amsterdam concert. It was busier than I had expected, not sold out though. There was no opening act announced, but when we arrived at the Paradiso (around nine pm) the Lucksmiths were already playing. Quite nice, a bit Jonathan Richman-ish by way of Sarah (the label) and I'll always have a fondness for Aussie bands with songs about librarians ("She has the brains of Sharon Stone, and the heart of Danielle Steel). Anyway, around ten B&S ambled onto the stage - Stuart wearing an orange Adidas T-shirt, probably in tribute to our glorious national football team, and corduroy flares (???). Isobel looked quite fetching in her Japanese schoolgirl uniform, but I guess you don't want to be bored with irrelevant details (although Mick's chequered trousers deserve a mention too), so on to the setlist: Dog On Wheels Dirty Dream #2 Loneliness Of The Middle Distance Runner Poupee De Son, Poupee De Cire The State I Am In Lazy Line Painter Jane (2nd vocal done by Stevie) Seymour Stein Brilliant Career She's Losing It Slow Graffiti (live premiere?) Chick Factor Belle And Sebastian Photo Jenny Sleep The Clock Around As usual, no encore. According to the setlist, Rollercoaster Ride should have been the last song, but was replaced with Sleep... Seymour Stein was introduced by Stevie and Stuart showing the drummer how the song went, they did a few lines in a country style with special lyrics, ie. "promises of pain, promises of torture" and a line about a vicar's daughter. I hope more details will emerge from my foggy memory, all I can remember is that it was very special. If I had the time and money, I would go to see them in Brussels next week. Koen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fjf at xxx.edu Wed Sep 30 21:48:30 1998 From: fjf at xxx.edu (Joe Frese) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 16:48:30 -0400 Subject: Sinister: rare belle and sebastian track, or not? Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980930164829.0068ee08@pop.cwru.edu> hey, i've got a question hopefully somebody on this list can help me answer. i did a little tape trading a while ago, and this guy (who has since disappeared) sent me a tape with filled with belle and sebastian stuff . . . i can identify the origins of most of the songs, except two: one is an alternate version of "dog on wheels" which ends with a weird backwards sample . . . does anybody know where this version is from? the other is an incredible lawrence-welkish song, sung by a female (but it doesn't sound like isobel) and containing the lines "on white horses/pretty white horses/let me ride away." has anybody ever heard this song before? is it rare belle and sebastian, or is it somebody else? and if so, who, because it kicks . . . joe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Funkyseb at xxx.com Wed Sep 30 22:29:43 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 17:29:43 EDT Subject: Sinister: The boy with Naievity suceeds! (with your help) Message-ID: <16c3fa1.3612a2c7@aol.com> Hi there popkids. Die hard listees among you will remember the saga of the boy sebastian, and his actress friend, who we shall call, er, belle. (though she's really called C********e) We first met the two of them in an Ink Polaroid, sebastian alone in the snow, belle walking off into the whiteout, oblivious to the broken heart that she had left behind. Well now we join them again. sebastian is staring mornfully into his pint of vile bitter. He's just met richard, belle's new boyfriend. sebastian has wide trousers, an honest smile, and a battered russian novel, richard has a six pack, a house in hampstead, and a part in casualty. 1-0 to the new tall elegant rich kids. But on the bus home, sebastian smiles through his tears. For he has a secret weapon. belle loves the same music as sebastian. they agree on most things, from flowers to the colour of buses. (green is best) But they particularly agree about music. That pretty scottish band reminds her why she likes him so much, and reminds him why he keeps on making a fool of himself for her. So sebastian makes a tape. Having a six pack's great, but only music can reach right into your soul, and make you feel happy, even as you cry. richard doesn't listen to music, you see. The tape looks great, he's blown up a little picture, until it fills the whole page. a boy, his face torn between agony and ecstacy, eyes half closed, lips half open, like a martyr, ready for a kiss.. But he has to write something, add something more, just a line, a lyric she'll hear, and keep forever in her heart- something that'll mean more to her than muscles and B list celebrity. Something to break open her heart, just like she did to him. What should sebastian write? Funkyseb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From debbie.spiers at xxx.ca Wed Sep 30 20:19:21 1998 From: debbie.spiers at xxx.ca (debbie.spiers at xxx.ca) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 15:19:21 -0400 () Subject: Sinister: re: toronto & cartoons Message-ID: Someone asked who the openers were going to be for the toronto date. i do believe that it is Spooky Ruben. I'm not completly sure. You can check by phoning the Edge club and concert listings. The number is (416) 872-3343. or is it 870? any how, it lists it there. And to those discussing cartoons. My very first crush was on Mighty Mouse. Anyone remember him? And my very second crush was on Robin in the old Batman cartoon series. cheers deb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Mon Sep 28 03:44:11 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:44:11 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Bossanova, Race, Loud Music Message-ID: <360EF7FB.BCAA393A@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Hiya, > Then the normally quite sane Mick Mcmick wrote: Nice to know I'm normally quite sane... > No, but there's loads of people in UK bands of West Indian descent, > (which, Mick, is not in India, before you ask.) Or do they not count? I apologize for being wrong. It's just that I've never seen a picture of anyone in non-Top 40 UK band that wasn't white, except Jyoti Mishra and the fellow from Cornershop. Perhaps it's just the bands I like. Corpora Arenacea says: > I guess the fact that that barrier, or whatever you want to call it, > still exists to a large extent irks me at least as much as the lack > of really loud bands on the list. For some reason this just doesn't make sense to me. I mean, the idea of someone being irked that a number of fans of a wimpy (yet tuneful) little folk-pop band aren't fans of deafening guitar squeal and power riffage is rather ludicrous to me. Of course, there's nothing wrong with someone liking both, it's just that I think it's very odd to expect people to, or at least get angry (or, irked) if they don't. Also, Cynthia queries: > What LP is that Mick McMick speaks > of? Also check out the first album of Caetano Veloso (kind of regarded > as the John Lennon of Brazil), By a stroke of fate, the LP is "Brasil" by Joao Gilberto (sorry, I can't do the proper squiggly marks), Gilberto Gil, Maria Bethania, and, yes, Caetano Veloso. Quite a lovely long-player. João Henrique Horst electrically pens: > Actually THERE WAS some bossa-nova on the lists. > If not the classic João & Astrud Gilberto/Antonio Carlos (Tom) > Jobim/Nara Leão/Edu Lobo stuff, we had Strereolab, Everything But The > Girl and others, True, I did miss that point. I guess it's hard for me to think of Stereolab, EBTG, etc as bossanova. /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at oak.cats.ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nkrajewski at xxx.uk Sat Sep 5 12:02:13 1998 From: nkrajewski at xxx.uk (Neil Krajewski) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 12:02:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Loquacious just doesn't describe it....... Message-ID: <013101bdd8bc$a5f9ba60$0efcf7c2@p7t6j7> Hello Sinister, Whilst returning home from yet another sinister extravaganza I was impinged by a sudden feeling of immense guilt: for 6 months or more I have been filling my life with hrs in #sinister chat and arriving at sinister related events, but never once have I posted a vaguely interested post. Anyway I doubt this will succeed on the interesting factor, but hopefully Honey will award me with full marks for effort. Anyway it would seem the summer is now past, I was going to quote one of the songs from the Nick Drake Tamworth tape I was sent, but I realised it was called 'Winter is Gone' so wasn't as apt as I'd previously thought. Over the course of these hot summer months though I've met some wonderful people. For fear of sounding like local BBC Radio I won't name them, sadly some of them have also been people in books, but still they exist in my own mind. Has anyone ever pondered whether one can fall for a character in a book - no thought not!!! Hopefully the fact that u are reading this indicated that I have been released from the confines of Honey's bounced cage; it's not much fun in there. The lovely, Erica told me that sinister has been evolving so I hope this post isn't out of stead for 'new' Sinister. Having spent much of the holiday sat on trains (here comes the B&S content) I feel I must comment that trains are the new buses and that indeed the holidays are so expensive, this is partially because trains are the new buses. In seeking to explain the listcrush system the wonderful Marcus commented that he voted for the people whose post he enjoyed, reagrdless of whether he had any amorous feelings towards them. To my mind this conflicted with the whole idea behind listcrush, but hopefully other people will on the basis of this will see fit to at least nominate me. Logic suggests to me that the only chance of getting any votes is to post and then hope someone interprets my words with charm. However has anyone pondered the viablity of listcrush teams, find a willing partner and double yr votes!!! By now I sincerely hope that Marcus has recovered from the exploits of yesterday. Also if EA wants to take our relationship beyond the confined plains of sinister then you my e-mail address now. 'til another 6 mths has past Neil (Kadj in the other world of IRC) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+