From ailsa at xxx.com Thu Apr 1 12:02:21 1999 From: ailsa at xxx.com (Ailsa Ross) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 03:02:21 -0800 Subject: Sinister: The line-up (according to the NME) Message-ID: The NME online seem to have beaten our own esteemed newslists to the following confirmed line-up, so for those of you interested, point yourselves to: http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/19990231123814news.html And that's it. Ailsa xx *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paul at xxx.com Thu Apr 1 12:46:58 1999 From: paul at xxx.com (Paul Clarke) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 11:46:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V3 #102 References: <199904011134.EAA17158@turtle.esosoft.net> Message-ID: <37035CB2.DD801576@fortunecity.com> > The NME online seem to have beaten our own esteemed newslists to the following confirmed line-up, so for those of you interested, point yourselves to: > http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/19990231123814news.html The editor of nme.com (Anthony Thornton) is a big B&S fan, he'll be at Camber Sands. He claims to have done the first B&S feature in a national newspaper, when he worked for the Guardian I think. Pauly popExchange: http://www.popex.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Thu Apr 1 12:54:08 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:54:08 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Twang me gently Message-ID: Sorry to poke my nose in the swingy sinister door yet again. Just to say for anyone who's been waiting for guitar tabs for TBWTAS, MRS and any other acronym you can think of, they're now at the Sinister WWW site at: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/chords.html These were submitted ages ago by loads of people, but me and my consultant chordologist, Lulu, took ages trying to sort them all out. I've pulled my finger out today in response for a request for them "In Another Place" as those of us who work in the House of Commons say. Sorry for the long delay, and sorry for anyone who sent chords and I haven't put them up - it's very hard to choose between them and I've tried to be fair - I don't think we want 99 versions of each song online. But I'll add what I've said on the WWW page, even though I sound a bit like PC Plod: "It's always hard choosing between different people's versions, and we get sent lots, so apologies to anyone who sent in chords and they're not here: in some cases it's first come first served, in others I arbitrarily pick whatever looks more complete. And yes I understand this is open to interpretation, and mine is often wrong: if you have an alternate version, I suggest you mail the person whose name is on the version below and see if you can both agree on a new set of chords, then send them back to me together. Then you both get your names in lights :) It's quite hard to manage this so please don't mail me and say "these chords are better" - I can't decide for you and I'll end up crying in the corner." Finally for anyone who hasn't got WWW access (I know of at least one poor listee who doesn't), never fear! My little robot, the sweet Miss HoneyBot who some will remember as a silent but very sexy presence in the chatrooms, has been instructed to serve your every wish. Just send a flattering message to her at: honeybot at majordomo.net (not me), and she will send you back all the chords in the twinkling of an eye. Actually it needn't be flattering, she's desperate for attention. honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From S.Ludlam at xxx.com Thu Apr 1 11:53:36 1999 From: S.Ludlam at xxx.com (Simon Ludlam) Date: 01 Apr 99 10:53:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Weathershow Message-ID: Does anyone know if the Weathershow 7" will be available at the forthcoming gigs?? I haven't been released into the public for some time, so while I'm out I have to get everything I can... Simon xxx ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mariannebratlie at xxx.com Thu Apr 1 13:23:29 1999 From: mariannebratlie at xxx.com (Marianne Bratlie) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 04:23:29 PST Subject: Sinister: Edinburgh Message-ID: <19990401122330.52205.qmail@hotmail.com> hello sinisters.. I`m spending some time in Edinburgh (possible also going to Glasgow for one day) before the bowlie festival, (I`m from Norway)-and I`m wondering if someone could tell me what`s worth seeing, any gigs..belle and sebastian related places...etc? I`m arriving Newcastle the 16.th, will probarbly be in Edinburgh from saturday (17\4)..and leave friday morning (23\4) (going to the bowlinger..) Hope i`ll meet some of you people on the festival...and thanks to anyone who replyes on my questions.. Cheers! Marianne Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Thu Apr 1 13:03:13 1999 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetryplace2) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:03:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Select article Message-ID: <01be7c37$9e30db00$046b9ac2@g5-200-1> Well the Select article some of us have been dreading for a while has finally hit the newstands, and.... well, it's not as bad as you would've thought. Certainly better than the usual bollocks in this month's Q . Highlights of the article include a smashing pic of steadymike, pam and the divine jenn around a glockenspiel. Lowlights include a display quote in big bold letters misquoting somebody called Honey. It's quite lengthy, but I thought you'd want to have a gander. I couldnt scan the first 200 words or so, because they were reversed out of a picture, and my poor scanner cant deal with it... legendary camera-shy natures; he was, after all, in a band with Stuart Murdoch called Deadly Geometry, a bizarre project whose self- proclaimed mission - oh, the killing irony - was to achieve as much publicity as possible without actually creating any music. The forth- coming programme, Duglas also reveals, could well include a cartoon of the band illustrated in the style of an early '70s Bunty annual. Pete Waterman was apparently invited to provide the narration. Again, sadly, he declined. When this backwards-in-coming- forwards Scottish indie-folk combo won their Brit in February it was one of those great happening-without-per- mission moments that helps make pop seem like an interesting way of spending your time: the blank industry stares on the night, Pete Waterman's tabloid- backed vote-rigging allegations, the tri- partite aggression that's recently broken out from the pop world with Another Level and Sive coming out on the side of Steps. The meek, it seemed, were ready to claim back at least part of that long- promised inheritance. It all amounted to a hilarious, momentous, unexpectedly visible demonstration of power from a group and fanbase that had previously appeared content to inhabit the margins of the musical world. THAT THIS VICTORY OVER PETE Waterman and the ruffled pop darlings was achieved largely via the Internet is only fitting. Cyberspace has always appealed to those with dispositions of a closeted, furtive nature: the trademark of Stuart Murdoch's lyrical drift. So, if Belle And Sebastian really are to the '90s what The Smiths were to the '80s, this Net connection testifies to how society has become a rather different place in the interim. Where Smiths fans came together in solidarity with some oppositional, confronta- tional idea of changing the world, Belle And Sebastian fans - as perfect emblems of the downsizing generation - are simply seeking a little piece of independent space that they can call their own. That space usually turns out to be the Sinister Mailing List - and it is a strange place to be. Become one of its 900 subscribers and you're let- ting yourself in for a daily torrent of e-mail mis- sives that, on any given day, could include every- thing from earnest discussions on lyrics to fictional messages from Stuart's mum. Votes can be cast on your favourite on-line people. Virtual kisses are exchanged. It's involved stuff, and the official Belle And Sebastian/Jeepster Records site gets between 160,000 and 200,000 hits a week. "People become mates because they've got one thing in common," says Papercuts fanzine editor Stephen Trouss6 of the on-line community. "But they don't just talk about that, they chat about any- thing. It's like being down the pub - except you're in three dif- ferent continents." So what kind of talk usually occurs in the average BELLE & SEBASTIAN ~ Belle And Sebastian chatroom? "Smut. There's always a lot 01 smut Like Stephen, who also organises regular B&S meetings at Covent Garden's Poetry Caf~, many admirers seem unwilling to stop at mere hero worshipping indulgence, preferring instead to use the music as a jumping-off point for creativ- ity. Alistair Fitchett, aka The Duke Of Harringay, has written a series of booklets called Belles Lettres (in part as homage to the similar Stuart David booklet Ink Polaroids Of Belle And Sebastian) in which he's attempted to capture the spirit of their songs. "I made about 50 or so of those and sold them at the Manchester shows. They sold out really quickly, actually," says Alistair, a Tiverton art teacher who forced his reluctant pupils ("They were all going, 'Oh, who's this, it's rubbish!"') to design alternative album covers for 'The Boy With The Arab Strap'. "I have met Stuart and Isobel and... it was nice, but what I really hate about pop music generally is this idea that the people who make the music are somehow differ- ent. I've met a lot of interesting people through the fanclub, but I prefer appreciating pop music as an I individual, not being part of some clique or gang. The hardcore people who I feel most in common with are those who are doing things themselves - not just consuming, not just buying the records and talking endlessly about what Stuart meant by this or that." Following in this vein is one Sean Fleming who has been partly inspired by Belle And Sebastian ("everything now is more like a show and this isn't a show") to become an expression- ist painter and musician. "You'll probably hear about me this time next year," he confidently assures. Is it possible, then, that a-burgeoning Belle And Sebastian-inspired arty-literary-boho scene is in waiting, ready to sweep away Cool Britannia's over-hyped chancers? TALK TO THE GROUP'S CHIEF FEMALE FIGURE, Isobel Campbell, and it becomes clear that the band are, rather than true icons in the Morrissey mould, simply gifted extensions of the same quietly non-comformist world their fans occupy. Softly spoken - at times faltering, at times chatty - she's obviously strn new to the world of inter- views. And having only just finished college, she's no doubt rather taken aback at finding her- self something of a style guru. Like the rest of the group, she's really neither a complete wide-eyed ingenue nor an utterly knowing ironist - goes some way to supporting me idea that their - non-image's absurd success falls somewhere between happy accident ~~~and media literate mas- "I just thought that when I went to university to study music... All my friends were signing on, and they were all lovely and things... I just thought that would happen to me," she recalls. "Then I joined the band and we were just suddenly getting all these phone calls and people asking us would you like to play here, blah blah blah. It's great and it's not to be knocked at all but even just the general business of it all is something to get used to." So does it feel odd to be the subject of a cult? "I suppose it is a bit strange. They all sort of meet and chat to each other... People do write to us as well, and we always try and reply. We get quite general ones just to Belle And Sebastian and a few others to each of us individually, say- ing things like, you know, how they've been quite fed up recently, things like that. I suppose it is quite odd that people write in to people they don't know. Sometimes people come up to you and talk to you and you don't think they know who you are and it turns out they're Belle And Sebastian fans." There's also plenty of unusual - if sort of appropriate - freebies flying their way "People send us lots of drawings. There was one time I got some silver angel wings. That was nice. And just lots of little gifts. Oh, and I got a dress sent to me and it fitted me perfectiy. Actually, I don't even know if it was for me, it just sort of emerged. There was a note attached saying, 'I wonder if someone in Belle And Sebastian would like this?' It was blue velvet, sort of a pinafore thing.. So are you all quite excited after the Brits? "I think our families are a lot more than us. Everything kind of exploded when it happened. It was quite touching because of how obviously all the fans on the Internet had got together and initiated it all. And it was good to see Mick and Richard on the telly" So are you all getting something of a taste for the limelight now? "I don't know... We're all really, really busy and we're doing as much as we can manage. Probably not. Some bands get so over-exposed because you see their faces on the cover of everything and you end up quite sick of it really. You're not going to see our faces splashed all over the billboards or anything." BACK IN NEW CROSS, the mood of enchant- ment is escalating fast, thanks in large part to the airing of huge chunks from Belle And Sebastian's canon. Conversation at the bar revolves around such top- ics as whether switching from four to three-track singles to become eligible for charts (as B&S appear likely to do) constitutes selling out'. And whether it's shameful to own up to only having 'Tigermilk' on tape. At one point im- moderate excitement runs through the assem- bly at the rumour that Jo, the cover star of 'Tigermilk' (and Stuart's ex), is about to appear in person. She doesn't. The question for the uninitiated remains, though: just what is this group's particular appeal? "It's because they're difficult to find out about in the conventional way," reckons 18-year-old Andrew Farley. "You hear the name mentioned around quite a lot and it stands out as being unusual. And you think, 'That's strange, I've heard the name but not their songs on the radio, why is that?' You can't just pick up The Sun or The Mirror and find out what's going on. Well, before the Brits, this is..." David and Katrina, now of the group's record label Jeepster, but for- merly humble shop assistants at Vinyl Experience in London's Hanway Street, testify to the musics strange incubatory effects. "We got given the '...Sinister' album by a rep and filled in the feedback ques- tionnaire giving it about five out often," confess- es Katrina. "But then we kept going back toil and playing it again and again until we had it on practically all the time. We kept ordering loads of copies to foist on as many people as possible. And loads of tourists who came in would go home with copies. "Then we went to their Borderline gig and David, who'd been doing the Elastica fanclub, went up to Stuart Murdoch and asked him if he could do their fanclub. He said fine, so we start- ed that - organising the picnics and stuff - and eventually we joined Jeepster as it grew." So, now that you're part of the Jeepster family, are you still fans? "Well, Stuart and Isobel come to the office and afterwards we're going, 'Ooh, wow! They were here! We spoke to them!' [laughs] Like on a real high..." Such enthusiasm isn't rare. In fact it's com- mon to find even more extreme reactions on the Net. Here's 'Guy': "i just want to say how much i love Belle And Sebastian, and how they possibly saved my life. At the time when i dis- covered them, i was going through a hard time in life, having quite a few problems with nobody to turn to. The beautiful and meaningful music they produce is a great antidote to the world we live in, with its vulgarity and falseness. Belle And Sebastian have shown me that life can be colour- ful and beautiful. They give me hope and belief that things will get better. God bless you Belle And Sebastian!!!!!!!" As it edges towards midnight in New Cross surprising scenes are taking place on the dance- floor. The dander B&S tracks (meaning, er, 'Dirty Dream Number Two', basically) segue into a rock-out section (including the likes of T Rex's 'Jeepster') which causes what appears to be red- hot boogie action among the supposedly shrink- ing violet twee-kids. As the throng starts sweating with communal joy, it's clear that other factors over and above the love of the band itself bind this clan together. One unifying characteristic, of course, is a shared feeling of shyness. "Everyone is always rather reticent," says the evening's organiser and DJ, Joe Egg. "I felt rather shy handing out the flyers for tonight. And a big city - whether it's London or LA - can be a very lonely place, it's really hard to meet peo- ple who think like you. So if you're a young person who's predisposed to the Internet and likes the band, it's a good way of getting to actually meet like- minded people face-to-face." "It's really about people from all over the world who trust each other," adds Katrina. "If you say, 'I want to come over to stay', you'll be put up. It's a friends for life thing. If you say you're a Belle And Sebastian fan, people presume that everything else is similar too." "We're all very sad," adds David. "But we don't care!" THE BAND'S FAMOUSLY TACI- TURN habits do appear to have rubbed off onto their fans. There's anything but unanimity even over the wisdom of tonight's fan convention, with some Net postings fearing wallflowers-look- ing-lost scenes reminiscent of '80s Smiths nights. Alistair, meanwhile, is not attend- ing the Bowlie Weekender. "I just don't like the idea of festivals," he says. "I'm not very social.' And, in connection with this article, the Sinister mailing list founder, Honey, says he's "not sure whether I want it publicised so much as we're a very special tidy little community!" Such awkwardness hints at the whole cult's current precarious position. According to Andy Parley, "It is a contradiction. You feel like you're part of a really select, minority thing. But at the same time there's a lot of us now. It's like any. thing, really, when it turns big." Maybe this bubble-like community ha~ become about as big as it can get withoul bursting. There's already signs that a breakawa~ 'knew them in the beginning/prefer their old stuff' movement is rearing its head and, assum- ing that the group carries on widening it~ musical remit, those who think of Belle And Sebastian as Their Group could feel increasingl~ marginalised by any forthcoming Brits~ enhanced success. Which, of course, only adds fittingly melancholic edge to the night's valedictory celebrations. That said, the cult's highpoint is still to arrive The Bowlie Weekender promises to be a feast oi chalet-based frolics. That is if everyone behave~ themselves and follows such tips as these fron the official website: "Bring some pyjamas - aftei all, most of you are sharing your chalet witi? people you only loosely know," and "If you'n driving, check the weather before you leave ant make sure that you stop off for short break~ during your journey." Above all, however, yoi. should, "Make sure you've booked the Monda) off work so you won't get into trouble when yol. don't turn up." It would, after all, be the nice and thoughtfu thing to do. ^Õ 3d SELECT +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Thu Apr 1 13:30:41 1999 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen - jeepster) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 13:30:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Weathershow References: Message-ID: <370366F1.EF134031@jeepster.co.uk> Simon Ludlam wrote: > > Does anyone know if the Weathershow 7" will be available at the > forthcoming gigs?? I haven't been released into the public for some time, so while > I'm out I have to get everything I can... > > Simon xxx i'm afraid not, and not just due to the fact that we're on dwindling stocks, but more due to the fact that our move of office is only half complete and the records (along with everything else) can be found in plastic crates on the back of a truck somewhere in kent and will simply be inaccesible before the gigs, sorry. cheers david ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk WE ARE MOVING, NEW ADDRESS: PO BOX 14153, LONDON SW11 4XU, UK to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Thu Apr 1 14:31:11 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:31:11 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Select article In-Reply-To: <01be7c37$9e30db00$046b9ac2@g5-200-1> Message-ID: > THE BAND'S FAMOUSLY TACI- > TURN habits do appear to have > rubbed off onto their fans. > ... > And, in connection with this article, the > Sinister mailing list founder, Honey, > says he's "not sure whether I want it publicised > so much as we're a very special tidy little > community!" which actually had "but we'll see" tacked on the end of my offer to help him out. Misquotes two months in a row! Hurrah! Ho ho :) This isn't so much of a misquote as a quote from a "private communication", which is technically illegal to publish, isn't it? Sue sue sue! I was offering to help him out, no wonder Steve Lowe never answered my subsequent emails and then unsubscribed from Sinister again quietly two days ago without a word. Makes good copy I suppose. Actually I'm rather proud to continue a strong tradition of looking vague and going off to make a cup of tea when someone asks for a story on Sinister. I have more and more respect for the attitude of our friends from Glasgow as time goes on, and damn right their habits rub off on others. Sinister doesn't need publicity, we're not selling anything (except special subscription rates to journalists from Select - it'll be in the FAQ soon) and we're very cosy thank you. If you live at emap.com and want to keep reading the list, get in touch :) honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From giita at xxx.com Thu Apr 1 14:46:52 1999 From: giita at xxx.com (Aileen Hammond) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 05:46:52 PST Subject: Sinister: Divine Music before the Bowlie fest? Message-ID: <19990401134652.92680.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello Sinister Bunnies, I�ll get straight to the point: As I will be MISSING(!) B&S on the Sunday at Bowlie I wanted to find something that could ease my suffering a little bit..In the NME I saw there was an Elliott Smith gig April 22nd(the day before Bowlie) in Manchester University.. I am thinking of going :) Are any of you people going? I will be arriving to London-Stanstead Airport around noon on the 22nd..do you tink it�s worth it to go all the way to Manchester for the night? Do you know if it�s expensive to travel to Manchester from London? And another thing..If anyone really IS going, it would be nice to go together :) - I have never been to Manchester, and I wouldn�t want to be lost and found before Bowlie do I? ..thanks again for listening to my raindrop cries :) Giita @->-- Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tunnock at xxx.au Thu Apr 1 16:39:20 1999 From: tunnock at xxx.au (Chris Tunnock) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 01:39:20 +1000 Subject: Sinister: Australian B&S Distributor References: <37038C6A.64B6@alphalink.com.au> Message-ID: <37039328.7FAA@alphalink.com.au> Dear Australian sinsterines (and g'day to you gentiles) Modular is now distributing B&S locally, in the wake of the Brits. I have not yet been able to ascertain if the date of Tigermilk's rerelease will be the same as the international release but let us cross our collective dirty colonial fingers... and say goodbye to import prices. The source of this info was a favourable TBWTAS review in Inpress, a Melbourne music paper. It ended on a finale of "A victory for substance over style." Before one takes this in a disparaging context, it referred to B&S self-promotion and their integrity in letting their music speak for itself. I will end in pseudo "Romperoom" style by saying a big hello to all my Australian friends out there in Sinisterland... Hello Craig, Erin (you ex-pat, you), Jacki, Jacqui, and Kin. Bye Chris N.B previous post's answer was 2! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sburon at xxx.fr Thu Apr 1 16:03:16 1999 From: sburon at xxx.fr (Stephane) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 17:03:16 +0200 Subject: Sinister: The line-up (according to the NME) References: Message-ID: <37038AAF.E9D88681@club-internet.fr> Hi list... Ailsa Ross a écrit: > The NME online seem to have beaten our own esteemed newslists to the following confirmed line-up, so for those of you interested, point yourselves to: > http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/19990231123814news.html Well, I dont know whether all these infos are confirmed or not (any idea, david?), maybe we should check on the Jeepster site before, but it raises many problems : how shall I see ALL these bands??? God, I'm not ubiquitous (yes, this word exists, i've just checked in my Harrap's dictionnary, it's the same in french!) and yet I WANT to see them all (except Mercury Rev, maybe, I still havent understood why everybody found the new album so great, and moreover, I saw them play in Paris, it was rubbish, except when they covered a song by Galaxie 500). If the NME is right, nobody wil play on the second stage on the friday night... Shame... But that would mean there is an opportunity for the Gentle Waves to play! Oh please, that would be sooo great! And they say that the festival is sold out. Excellent, I really thought it would never be, simply because of the price. Well, I can afford it because I've got a job and all, but what about the others??? Btw, anyone heard of Ladybug Transistor before? And what about Broadcast? I loved "Work and Non Work", do you know whether they've planned to release something new in 99??? Sorry for this message, it must be the weather: the children are shouting and playing balls in the playground, I'm listening to A Century Of Fakers, the windows are open, I feel like dancing alone... Take care Stephane, http://www.chez.com/tweeclub PS: Where's the Duke gone??? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Thu Apr 1 17:23:34 1999 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:23:34 EST Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V3 #102 Message-ID: <6c9ac90a.37039d86@aol.com> That last digest I received with one e-mail message in it was the shortest sinister digest version I've seen yet. Pete End of sinister-digest V3 #103 ****************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Thu Apr 1 17:42:35 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:42:35 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Cinerama here? Message-ID: Sorry because of using the list to do this,sorry Mummy I won't spread Nutella all around my tee shirt again, I promise, but if anyone knows if Cineraman are really adn truly playing tonite in Nottingham ,could that someone mail me privately about it? Cheers Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nickdastoor at xxx.com Thu Apr 1 19:22:53 1999 From: nickdastoor at xxx.com (Nick Dastoor) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 10:22:53 PST Subject: Sinister: The girls and the horses Message-ID: <19990401182253.5796.qmail@hotmail.com> Well this is all very exciting. Not just another picnic to look foward to, where Big Stu reckons I can meet girls, but a pre-Camber meetup opposite my office, half an hour after I finish work. How convenient. Just as well it's the Betsey, as the Coach and Horses has been boycotted by the NUJ chapel here on account of the publican's racist views. How interesting this must be to all of you. I used to be interesting. But then everyone caught up and I got lost in the following pack. What's all this in Time Out about Isobel being Stuart's ex-girlfriend? I thought they were caught 'holding hands' in America recently. What other bands have survived this sort of crisis? Bis, and they got better. Rod's been quiet lately, but I've been tracking his movements - have a look at what he's been up to. Busy boy! http://x7.dejanews.com/[ST_rn=qs]/getdoc.xp?AN=461049635&CONTEXT=92298 8937.1990525082&hitnum=7 Buy a minidisc machine. They're great. Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris.jones at xxx.uk Thu Apr 1 19:31:58 1999 From: chris.jones at xxx.uk (Chris Jones) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:31:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: This is just a sodden sock song Message-ID: <199904011832.TAA01214@smtp.saqnet.co.uk> chris.jones at saqnet.co.uk http://www.saqnet.co.uk/users/saxtead/chris.htm I went to Scotland for the first time in my life last week, to Arran. Is there anyone from that neck of the woods on the list? I went via Glasgow Central, laden with my B&S badges hoping that some keen sinisteree would stop and have a chat with me, or even better a member of the band. Unfortunately the nearest I got was two schoolgirls commenting on my 'nice pants'. Does anyone else find that Tower Records is a bit small? The only EP it stocked was 'This Is Just A Modern Rock Song', and I couldn't find Weathershow either. Is that enough of my inane twitterings? I suppose so. Goodbye list, Chris Jones. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Thu Apr 1 20:40:29 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 20:40:29 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: "I'm not sure if I want Bowlie festival publicised" Message-ID: I promised to shut my fat gob, but I'm not really am I? Two things, chums: First off I got to read the whole Select article this evening, and Lulu is still giggling and rolling about on the sofa about it. The following appears in big black satanic writing on page 34: "I'm not sure if I want the Bowlie festival publicised. We're a tidy little community!" - Sinister mailing list founder, Honey I was of course misquoted: not only do I not want Bowlie publicised, I'd like it sanitised, plagiarised and circumcised please. Keen observers may wish to note that whoever does the big letters for Select didn't talk to the person who does the little letters, and stuck in "Bowlie festival" for "Sinister list". I know it's a subtle difference but I'm pedantic and feel these nuances of meaning count. Big fat farts. However, you should all pat yourselves on the back because in the same article, Sinister is referred to as "the Mother of all fan resources". This is of course only because of the messages in the archives, which I didn't write all by myself, in spite of appearances today. Apparently, in reference to Sinister: "You flippin' name it, it's there". Another blatant untruth: I've been looking for years in the Archives for instructions on how to unplug the exit valve on an Indesit B33RZ and it's conspicuous by its absence. "And also": this latest communication beamed straight from the heart of Jeepster International. I thank you. Honey x ---------- Forwarded message ---------- a few of the band members are working on writing the official tabs and parts for piano, guitar, lead guitar and lyrics into a proper lyrics book as we speak. once this is complete it will be available to purchase in all good bookstores, and the belle and sebastian site at http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/ will exclusively feature them, of course we'll keep you up to date with this as and when it happens, other things we're doing; a belle and sebastian newsgroup ALL of the video's including the weathershow and looper ones as well as the whole b&s video collection (yes, dirty dream too) will soon be available on the net in real video format in their entirity thanks to sonic net :) cheers david ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk WE ARE MOVING, NEW ADDRESS: PO BOX 14153, LONDON SW11 4XU, UK to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message +----------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Thu Apr 1 19:23:19 1999 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen - jeepster) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 19:23:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The line-up (according to the NME) References: <37038AAF.E9D88681@club-internet.fr> Message-ID: <3703B997.A7C0DB26@jeepster.co.uk> Stephane wrote: > > Hi list... > > Ailsa Ross a écrit: > > > The NME online seem to have beaten our own esteemed newslists to the following confirmed line-up, so for those of you interested, point yourselves to: > > http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/19990231123814news.html > > Well, I dont know whether all these infos are confirmed or not (any idea, david?), maybe we should check on the Jeepster site before, yep, ideas abound, the latest line up is in the news section of the bowlie site at http://www.jeepster.co.uk/bowlie/news/index.htm there may still be a few changes last minute, but hopefully not. we do also have stage times, but since these tend to fluctuate up until ten minutes before the bands go onstage i'd be a fool to post them. all of the stage times and details will be available via the televisions in every chalet when you get there, this way they're bang up to date and no-one comes knocking on our door because you've missed ten minutes of the fannies! cheers david ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk WE ARE MOVING, NEW ADDRESS: PO BOX 14153, LONDON SW11 4XU, UK to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Thu Apr 1 20:35:03 1999 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen - jeepster) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 20:35:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: that select article in full! Message-ID: <3703CA67.A94F7596@jeepster.co.uk> has now been posted on the belle and sebastian website at http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/press/interviews/select-1-apr-99.htm but it's also below -- The portents are good. In the disturbingly macho spit-sawdust-and-Sky TV public house there's a row of books on the window ledge. Alongside the Frederick Forsyth paperbacks sits a mammoth three-volume set titled The World Of Children, a 1950s educative text with chapter titles including 'Gill Is Worried' and 'The Earth As A Big Ball'. Interspersed within are line-drawings illustrating such eternal truths as 'Whispering: A Nasty Habit'. Next to this is another tome called French Cathedrals. Sanctity side-by-side with childhood innocence: we're clearly not in South-East London anymore but are already well on the way to being transported to a strange, slightly adjacent new world. Entering the more salubrious surroundings of New Cross' Paradise Bar, the shift becomes complete. For it's here, in what more usually serves as a local gay bar, that '200 Troubled Teenagers' is being held, the night that bills itself in classically understated fashion as "an evening dedicated to the Scottish ban Belle And Sebastian". A darkened passageway leads you past a woman presiding over programme packs, the cover of which is a cack-handedly doctored picture of Miss Jean Brodie teaching her class the dates of the three Belle And Sebastian LPs. It's £3 to enter, but £2 if you're wearing band T-shirts or badges - which accounts for the preponderence of such gear among the tranquil clusters of fans standing in the shady alcoves and under the prettily swirling lights. Far from being a solely sad-lad scene, there are also plenty of Isobel Campbell clones in evidence, with hair-slides and pinafores in abundance. Thankfully, too, among the male contingent there are occasional touches of Cocker-esque shirt-and-tie-smoothie style to offset the expected shy-boy floppiness. This, it also appears, is a band for all ages. So while some of the cultists look as though they've just arrived from the nearest student union indie disco, others look like they'd be more at home in the staff bar. After a couple of laps of this transformed 'nitespot', it becomes apparent that a genuinely peculier atmosphere is coalescing. Onto a white drape a projector casts grainy '70s home videos of a penguin enclosure and a car pulling in and out of a petrol station. The DJ is playing (whisper it!) tracks from the near-mythical B&S debut album 'Tigermilk', as well as gems of yesteryear like David Bowie's youthful novelty hit "The Laughing Gnome". Xylophones and recorders lie about on tables for those who feel that way inclined (and many do). The bar, meanwhile, is doing a roaring trade in Tiger Milk Shakes. The programme pack includes an I-spy card with a list of unreleased songs, complete with boxes to tick once you've heard of them, and a survey asking, "Who's best: Belle And Sebastian or Steps?" and "What looks best: Belle And Sebastian or Belle & Sebastian?" Someone was bound to ask. . . weren't they? B&S Fandom is an international community who all find a certain security in the company of like-minded people, leading to Actual Real Relationships and even, in one instance, marriage (six months ago, between New Yorkers Rachel and JJ). They are people who'll happily name their offspring Belle and Sebastian. Who'll meet up - in Primrose Hill, London, or Griffiths Park, LA - for picnics and games of Twister. Who are often inspried by their heroes to paint or engage in other less recognised forms of artistic endeavour. Who, incidentally, don't care much for Pete Waterman (he was personally invited tonight to see what it's all about, but appears to have had prior engagements). And who, in order to travel to the forthcoming Bowlie Weekender festival (conceived by Stuart Murdoch and to be held at Pontins holiday camp in Camber Sands), are hiring a red double-decker bus in the style of Cliff Richard and The Shadows' Summer Holiday. In Summary, your Belle And Sebastian fans are not totally normal. But they demand, or at least politely ask for, your respect. Far from a bunch of uniformed saddoes, their ranks are filled with odd-ball characters like Douglas Stewart, the ex-BMX Bandits singer and earlier champion of north-of-border tweeness, currently making a documentary on the band for the BBC. Who better, indeed, to combat the group's legendary camera-shy natures: he was, after all, in a band with Stuart Murdoch called Deadly Geometry, a bizarre project whose self-proclaimed mission - oh, the killing irony - was to achieve as much publicity as possible without actually creating any music. The forth-coming programme, Douglas also reveals, couldwell include a cartoon of the band illustrated in the style of an early '70s Bunty annual. Pete Waterman was apparently invited to provide the narration. Again, sadly, he declined. When this backwards-in-coming-forwards Scottish indie-folk combo won their Brit in February it was one of those great happening-without-permission moments that helps make pop seem like an interesting way of spending your time: the blank industry stares on the night, Pete Waterman's tabloid-backed vote-rigging allegations, the tri-partite aggression that's recently broken out from the pop world with Another Level and 5ive coming out on the side of Steps. The meek, it seemed, were ready to claim back at least part of that long-promised inheritance. It all amounted to a hilarious, momentous, unexpectedly visible demonstration of power from a group and fanbase that had previously appeared content to inhabit the margins of the musical world. That this victory over Pete Waterman and the ruffled pop darlings was achieved largely via the Internet is only fitting. Cyberspace has always appealed to those with dispositions of a closeted, furtive nature: the trademark of Stuart Murdoch's lyrical drift. So, if Belle And Sebastian really are to the '90s what The Smiths were to the '80s, this Net connection testifies to how society has become a rather different place in the interim. Where Smiths fans came together in solidarity with some oppositional, confrontational idea of changing the world, Belle And Sebastian fans - as perfect emblems of the downsizing generation - are simply seeking a little piece of independent space that they can call their own. That space usually turns out to be the Sinister Mailing List - and it is a strange place to be. Become one of its 900 subscribers and you're letting yourself in for a daily torrent of e-mail missives that, on any given day, could include everything from earnest discussions on lyrics to fictional messages from Stuart's mum. Votes can be cast on your favourite on-line people. Virtual kisses are exchanged. It's involved stuff, and the official Belle And Sebastian/Jeepster Records site gets between 160,000 and 200,000 hits a week. "People become mates because they've got one thing in common," says Papercuts fanzine editor Stephen Troussé of the on-line community. "But they don't just talk about that, they chat about anything. It's like being down the pub - except you're in three different continents." So what kind of talk usually occurs in the average Belle And Sebastian chatroom? "Smut. There's always a lot of smut. . . " Like Stephen, who also organises regular B&S meetings at Covent Garden's Poetry Café, many admirers seem unwilling to stop at mere hero worshipping indulgence, preferring instead to use the music as a jumping-off point for creativity. Alistair Fitchett, aka The Duke Of Harringay, has written a series of booklets called Belles Lettres (in part as homage to the similar Stuart David booklet Ink Polaroids Of Belle And Sebastian) in which he's attempted to capture the spirit of their songs. "I made about 50 or so of those and sold them at the Manchester shows. They sold out really quickly, actually," says Alistair, a Tiverton art teacher who forced his reluctant pupils ("They were all going, 'Oh, who's this, it's rubbish!'") to design alternative album covers for 'The Boy With The Arab Strap'. "I have met Stuart and Isobel and... it was nice, but what I really hate about pop music generally is this idea that the people who make the music are somehow different. I've met a lot of interesting people through the fanclub, but I prefer appreciating pop music as an individual, not being part of some clique or gang. The hardcore people who I feel most in common with are those who are doing things themselves - not just consuming, not just buying the records and talking endlessly about what Stuart meant by this or that." Following in this vein is one Sean Fleming who has been partly inspired by Belle And Sebastian ("everything now is more like a show and this isn't a show") to become an expressionist painter and musician. "You'll probably hear about me this time next year," he confidently assures. Is it possible, then, that a burgeoning Belle And Sebastian-inspired arty-literary-boho scene is in waiting, ready to sweep away Cool Britannia's over-hyped chancers? Talk to the group's chief female figure, Isobel Campbell, and it becomes clear that the band are, rather than true icons in the Morrissey mould, simply gifted extensions of the same quietly non-comformist world their fans occupy. Softly spoken - at times faltering, at times chatty - she's obviously still new to the world of interviews. And having only just finished college, she's no doubt rather taken aback at finding herself something of a style guru. Like the rest of the group, she's really neither a complete wide-eyed ingenue nor an utterly knowing ironist - which goes some way to supporting the idea that their non-image's absurd success falls somewhere between happy accident and media literate masterplan. "I just thought that when I went to university to study music... All my friends were signing on, and they were all lovely and things... I just thought that would happen to me," she recalls. "Then I joined the band and we were just suddenly getting all these phone calls and people asking us would you like to play here, blah blah blah. It's great and it's not to be knocked at all but even just the general business of it all is something to get used to." So does it feel odd to be the subject of a cult? "I suppose it is a bit strange. They all sort of meet and chat to each other... People do write to us as well, and we always try and reply. We get quite general ones just to Belle And Sebastian and a few others to each of us individually, saying things like, you know, how they've been quite fed up recently, things like that. I suppose it is quite odd that people write in to people they don't know. Sometimes people come up to you and talk to you and you don't think they know who you are and it turns out they're Belle And Sebastian fans." There's also plenty of unusual - if sort of appropriate - freebies flying their way "People send us lots of drawings. There was one time I got some silver angel wings. That was nice. And just lots of little gifts. Oh, and I got a dress sent to me and it fitted me perfectly. Actually, I don't even know if it was for me, it just sort of emerged. There was a note attached saying, 'I wonder if someone in Belle And Sebastian would like this?' It was blue velvet, sort of a pinafore thing.. So are you all quite excited after the Brits? "I think our families are a lot more than us. Everything kind of exploded when it happened. It was quite touching because of how obviously all the fans on the Internet had got together and initiated it all. And it was good to see Mick and Richard on the telly" So are you all getting something of a taste for the limelight now? "I don't know... We're all really, really busy and we're doing as much as we can manage. Probably not. Some bands get so over-exposed because you see their faces on the cover of everything and you end up quite sick of it really. You're not going to see our faces splashed all over the billboards or anything." Back in New Cross, the mood of enchantment is escalating fast, thanks in large part to the airing of huge chunks from Belle And Sebastian's canon. Conversation at the bar revolves around such topics as whether switching from four to three-track singles to become eligible for charts (as B&S appear likely to do) constitutes selling out'. And whether it's shameful to own up to only having 'Tigermilk' on tape. At one point immoderate excitement runs through the assembly at the rumour that Jo, the cover star of 'Tigermilk' (and Stuart's ex), is about to appear in person. She doesn't. The question for the uninitiated remains, though: just what is this group's particular appeal? "It's because they're difficult to find out about in the conventional way," reckons 18-year-old Andrew Farley. "You hear the name mentioned around quite a lot and it stands out as being unusual. And you think, 'That's strange, I've heard the name but not their songs on the radio, why is that?' You can't just pick up The Sun or The Mirror and find out what's going on. Well, before the Brits, this is..." David and Katrina, now of the group's record label Jeepster, but formerly humble shop assistants at Vinyl Experience in London's Hanway Street, testify to the musics strange incubatory effects. "We got given the '...Sinister' album by a rep and filled in the feedback questionnaire giving it about five out of ten," confesses Katrina. "But then we kept going back to it and playing it again and again until we had it on practically all the time. We kept ordering loads of copies to foist on as many people as possible. And loads of tourists who came in would go home with copies. "Then we went to their Borderline gig and David, who'd been doing the Elastica fanclub, went up to Stuart Murdoch and asked him if he could do their fanclub. He said fine, so we started that - organising the picnics and stuff - and eventually we joined Jeepster as it grew." So, now that you're part of the Jeepster family, are you still fans? "Well, Stuart and Isobel come to the office and afterwards we're going, 'Ooh, wow! They were here! We spoke to them!' [laughs] Like on a real high..." Such enthusiasm isn't rare. In fact it's common to find even more extreme reactions on the Net. Here's 'Guy': "i just want to say how much i love Belle And Sebastian, and how they possibly saved my life. At the time when i discovered them, i was going through a hard time in life, having quite a few problems with nobody to turn to. The beautiful and meaningful music they produce is a great antidote to the world we live in, with its vulgarity and falseness. Belle And Sebastian have shown me that life can be colourful and beautiful. They give me hope and belief that things will get better. God bless you Belle And Sebastian!!!!!!!" As it edges towards midnight in New Cross surprising scenes are taking place on the dancefloor. The dancier B&S tracks (meaning, er, 'Dirty Dream Number Two', basically) segue into a rock-out section (including the likes of T Rex's 'Jeepster') which causes what appears to be red-hot boogie action among the supposedly shrinking violet twee-kids. As the throng starts sweating with communal joy, it's clear that other factors over and above the love of the band itself bind this clan together. One unifying characteristic, of course, is a shared feeling of shyness. "Everyone is always rather reticent," says the evening's organiser and DJ, Joe Egg. "I felt rather shy handing out the flyers for tonight. And a big city - whether it's London or LA - can be a very lonely place, it's really hard to meet people who think like you. So if you're a young person who's predisposed to the Internet and likes the band, it's a good way of getting to actually meet like-minded people face-to-face." "It's really about people from all over the world who trust each other," adds Katrina. "If you say, 'I want to come over to stay', you'll be put up. It's a friends for life thing. If you say you're a Belle And Sebastian fan, people presume that everything else is similar too." "We're all very sad," adds David. "But we don't care!" The band's famously taciturn habits do appear to have rubbed off onto their fans. There's anything but unanimity even over the wisdom of tonight's fan convention, with some Net postings fearing wallflowers-looking-lost scenes reminiscent of '80s Smiths nights. Alistair, meanwhile, is not attending the Bowlie Weekender. "I just don't like the idea of festivals," he says. "I'm not very social.' And, in connection with this article, the Sinister mailing list founder, Paul Mitchell, says he's "not sure whether I want it publicised so much as we're a very special tidy little community!" Such awkwardness hints at the whole cult's current precarious position. According to Andy Parley, "It is a contradiction. You feel like you're part of a really select, minority thing. But at the same time there's a lot of us now. It's like anything, really, when it turns big." Maybe this bubble-like community has become about as big as it can get without bursting. There's already signs that a breakaway 'knew them in the beginning/prefer their old stuff' movement is rearing its head and, assuming that the group carries on widening its musical remit, those who think of Belle And Sebastian as Their Group could feel increasingly marginalised by any forthcoming Brits-enhanced success. Which, of course, only adds fittingly melancholic edge to the night's valedictory celebrations. That said, the cult's highpoint is still to arrive The Bowlie Weekender promises to be a feast of chalet-based frolics. That is if everyone behaves themselves and follows such tips as these from the official website: "Bring some pyjamas - afterall, most of you are sharing your chalet with people you only loosely know," and "If you're driving, check the weather before you leave and make sure that you stop off for short breaks during your journey." Above all, however, you should, "Make sure you've booked the Monday off work so you won't get into trouble when you don't turn up." It would, after all, be the nice and thoughtful thing to do. -- cheers david ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk WE ARE MOVING, NEW ADDRESS: PO BOX 14153, LONDON SW11 4XU, UK to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From DavidJ2502 at xxx.com Thu Apr 1 20:54:49 1999 From: DavidJ2502 at xxx.com (DavidJ2502 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:54:49 EST Subject: Sinister: My friend knows Norman Blake's Grandmother Message-ID: <8adf627.3703cf09@aol.com> Hello there, Every day that passes puts another flaming dagger into my heart. A little melodramatic? Maybe, but now I read in the NME that The Flaming Lips have been added to the Bowlie bill. Things couldn't get much better than this. I had only just got over the shock of Teenage Fanclub's shock addition- my doctor still prescribes warm cocoa and Bandwagonesque twice daily to calm my nerves- now this! The shock is too much for a young man's heart to take. Of course, by now you will have figured out that I am not going. I, like the sensible person I am have opted for buying a car instead, though not for eighty-odd quid, mind you, and have been kicking myself in the tender regions ever since (I have a prescription to stop that as well). It is with this in mind that I have created the Worlds Smallest Festival (TM). To coincide with the Bowlie Weekend I am having a small gathering at my house featuring a DJ set from my friend Chris and live music from me as I bash out Pastels classics on an old acoustic guitar; other acts TBC. As you might expect from such an intimate venue (a three bedroomed semi-detached in the Midlands) availability is limited. In fact, it's already sold out. Sorry. Changing the subject a little bit... Did anyone listen to Lamacq Live this week? Among the highlights: a dEUS live session, Suede live and me, two friends and my brother getting destroyed by four Welsh girls on the Thin Quizzy bit. For anyone who's in the slightest bit interested, they pre-record the show something like three hours before it goes on air, so they can edit out all of the boring bits ("What?", "Who?", "I've never even heard of them", "Hang on Steve"). After all that, I was only on the radio for a micro-second (muttering "Garbage" in my best Stuart Staples voice), leaving the young Andrew Hickman, a Neds Atomic Dustbin acolyte from Stourbridge, to do all of the talking. Nice to see a question about B&S though, and they played The Gentle Waves as an interlude, so it's not all that bad is it? Thanks for listening, David J. PS as for those tricky valve problems, Honey, have you ever tried WWW.B33RZexitvalve.com/unplug.html? Well don't, its crap. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Thu Apr 1 21:14:15 1999 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 20:14:15 GMT Subject: Sinister: The horror Message-ID: <3705d14a.3113275@post.demon.co.uk> Hello, First of all thanks to Stevie Trousers for his copying of the Select jobbie. And thanks to whoever it was who did the Time Out thing (which I thought was really, really good, spot on, written by a fan, and not a cheap stitch-up with a hidden agenda). Honey wrote: >Actually I'm rather proud to continue a strong tradition of looking >vague and going off to make a cup of tea when someone asks for a >story on Sinister. I have more and more respect for the attitude of >our friends from Glasgow as time goes on, and damn right their habits >rub off on others. Me too. I was also approached by Steve Lowe who asked me how I felt about being part of the Cult of Belle and Sebastian. I composed a flippant answer about incantations and sacrifices, then wrote something sensible, then decided just to ignore him. Now I feel entirely justified. Top marks to Trousers again for saying more or less what I would have said myself, and Katrina for pointing out the friendship angle, but a lot of it was cringe-inducing reading for me. David, was that a misquote when you said "we're all very sad"? I hope you're suing. Personally, I'm a very happy human with a very happy social life, who happens to think that email is a good cheap quick way of writing to people I care about. I don't really blame Steve Lowe, either, he did it best - in fact he probably reported a lot of it quite accurately - I just didn't recognise myself at all (although I think he paraphrased one of my posts). Actually, I reckon it wasn't Steve who misquoted Paul, it was some idiot editor, and of course, they've got magazines to sell, and as Peter pointed out the other day, us being normal doesn't make good copy. Oh, and JJ and Rachel, congratulations, you kept that quiet. I'm off to Glasgow tomorrow to see Anne and Chris and Julia and Keef, we're going to Spy if anyone's interested in coming. Shyness and xylophones are strictly forbidden. Tonight sees the launch of Club International in Manchester which I'd be going to if I didn't have a blinder right behind the eyes. Rumour has it that some young scamp is going to be reading extracts from "Young and Foolish", in a "funny voice", while wearing a horse mask. It isn't Warrander John, but he's going and he can tell you all about it next week, so long as he doesn't call me a poof like he just shouted down the phone at me. Three weeks till St Moumoune's Day Love Tag xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Thu Apr 1 21:29:25 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:29:25 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: "I'm not sure if I want Bowlie festival publicised" (fwd) Message-ID: Listen, I'll do penance for the month for mailing you all again but this one's forced on me. David Jeepster has just mailed me asking me to tell you all that the message I quoted from him was sent by him to the belleandsebastian list, at Jeepster and not the news list, at Jeepster (and not the Sinister list, at Sinister Central, I should add), because he says lots of people will get confused and mail him asking if the news list is kaputt. It isn't. I'm not. We aren't. OK? Honey x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ussher at xxx.ca Thu Apr 1 21:31:30 1999 From: ussher at xxx.ca (allen) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:31:30 -0700 (MST) Subject: Sinister: Oh, What luck! Message-ID: I'm so happy, I had to share it with someone, but since no one here at my work likes (or even knows of) B&S, I thought I'd post it here. :) I decided to buy lunch today, so I left the office and went down to a shopping centre nearby to buy lunch from a quaint little Chinese take-out place. I felt like wandering the mall (as we call them here) a bit seeing if maybe we had the latest Select. I should mention I'm in Canada, but luckily, many magazine shops carry imports of Select. I just want it for that article that Stevie Trousers was nice enough to post here for the rest of us to read. Well, the shops didn't have the new one in yet, so I decided to stop by my local HMV and browse the CDs they've got. Went to the "alternative" section and saw they have a fairly good selection. They have both B&S LPs, but Sinister is overpriced at $32CAN, which is quite high, considering most CDs are around $15-$20. I'd been purchasing too many CDs of late, so I decided not to buy anything. I passed by the singles section and decided to browse that. I browsed through several Pulp CD single imports, but didn't feel like buying any at the moment. Then, just for the heck of it, I looked to see if there were any B&S CD singles there. And to my surprise, there WERE! They had Dog on Wheels, Lazy Line Painter Jane, and 3..6.. 9.. Seconds of Light. I was ecstatic, as you can imagine. This is quite a surprise because, again, I'm in CANADA!! I suppose there was a B&S fan working at the HMV and decided to import these. So I quickly snatched Lazy Line.. and 3..6..9.. I had already ordered and received Dog... and Modern Rock Song and planning on ordering these other two, so this was quite a pleasant surprise. Also, the exchange rate is not very favourable for the Canadian dollar and International money orders are quite expensive, so I saved quite a bit this way! That made me very happy, of course. :-) Well, I had better get to work now. thanks for listening if you got this far in the message! Allen -- "Long afloat on shipless oceans I did all my best to smile Till your singing eyes and fingers Drew me loving to your isle." -- Song to the Siren, Tim Buckley. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sburon at xxx.fr Thu Apr 1 22:41:39 1999 From: sburon at xxx.fr (Stephane) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 23:41:39 +0200 Subject: Sinister: "I'm not sure if I want Bowlie festival publicised" References: Message-ID: <3703E811.6546708B@club-internet.fr> Honey wrote: > he says lots of people will get confused and mail him > asking if the news list is kaputt. It isn't. I'm not. We aren't. Maybe I am... > OK? KO. Stephane +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From polystyreneman64 at xxx.com Thu Apr 1 23:04:02 1999 From: polystyreneman64 at xxx.com (Dan McKinney) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:04:02 PST Subject: Sinister: Morrissey's a poofter, aye Message-ID: <19990401220403.3942.qmail@hotmail.com> hello fellow "cult members" Check out http://www.excellentonline.com today. Quite a hilarious little gag they've got goin' over there that I think some of you might get a laugh out of. I got Looper some airplay the other night on my radio show, in a bit of an unexpected fashion. see, I was listening to the album that night, and I realized that "ballad of ray suzuki" would make for a great bed (background). so I used it while I was talking and stuff. not a very glamorous way to get Looper on the radio--I would've liked to have played a whole tune--but my program director threatened bodily harm to DJs who "break format." too bad I play B&S all the time anyway. usually "simple things" because it's short and there's lesser risk of getting caught. oh, the joy of college radio program directors who think they're operating a commercial station. alrighty, time to stop procrastinating. have a nice day. ~Dan What's in the CD Player?: Sloan -- Navy Blues In Rotation: Eric Matthews -- Lateness of the Hour; Teenage Fanclub -- Bandwagonesque; Sense Field -- Building; Sparklehorse -- Good Morning Spider Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Thu Apr 1 23:42:39 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:42:39 PST Subject: Sinister: scandalous sinister shocker Message-ID: <19990401224240.12732.qmail@hotmail.com> Dear sweet list, Hey,man..what`s all this hub-bub going on? What this select article?.. was it like a big thing just on sinister or belle and sebastian in general...these select people have been watching us the whole time? those voyeuristic pervs! bad touch! we could`ve been naked or something...okay,select people,if you are there, i have a COMPLAINT. In your lettres page,you said `the person who sends in a lookalike celebrity picture will win a great prize` I have sent in 2 lookalike pictures of celebrities,both have been PUBLISHED and 1 plain lettre that you published and i have gotten NO prize in the mail.What`s with that.You think you can misquote people,not send them their fair prizes and get away with it! (well,you probably will get away with it,but beware,you just might get a curse bestowed upon you...sinister...magic..) it was just the..whole tone..i have expected to see `you can even see where evil girls have illicit thoughts on stuart david!` I shall have to check it out tomorrow on my yearly pilgrimage to the city to buy food. hey oon,thanks for those great documentary ideas actually..i quite liked the pub one,but i was thinking i might do my documentary on `children of war` and focusing on the kosovo crisis...if anyone has any ideas or suggestions about my documentary,opionions or whatever (i dont care what your opionions are,i want to show things from both sides) they would be most greatly and warmly welcomed...i was thinking i could centre my story around -have we learned nothing? -no matter what side thinks they are right,the weak and innocent ones always die -these children growing up in hate,a future of hate? i have really been effected by what i`ve been seeing on the news,my danger is..i dont want to seem like i`m preaching or trying to be sensationalistic. thankyou kindly, genevieve Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From burgr at xxx.net Fri Apr 2 00:37:49 1999 From: burgr at xxx.net (Ben Chess) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:37:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: The article & Scottish April Fools Message-ID: Oh Wow, a first post! I'm getting giddy already. :-) I've actually been lurking around for quite awhile. i think it was the blind faith article that did it. i felt all guilty when they mention sinister and how its a "strange place to be." How could I be a part of this if I never posted? ah well.. 'tis a good article. B&S really should have some sort of get-together here in the states sometime... well, it's april fool's day, and I've gotten my big prank! How 'bout you? I've heard that the scots enjoy it so much it takes 2 days.. the old "kick me" signs still get a laugh.. well, I've made my first post. How bout you? Ben +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jalir at xxx.edu Fri Apr 2 01:11:09 1999 From: jalir at xxx.edu (Jar) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:11:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: get-together in the states In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Ben Chess wrote: > B&S really should have > some sort of get-together here in the states sometime... This has been mentioned a few times without any follow-up as of yet. Oh, by the way, I'm a new-comer--name's Allison. I live in Boston but I would be more than willing to come down to nyc if someone actually arranged it. Is there anyone willing to do this? All this wonderful unity across the seas raises my spirits and desire for a B&S picnic--it was so difficult to refrain from sending an email earlier! > well, I've made my first post. How bout you? Yes, I finally did it. Eager to meet you all, Allison +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From PaperSun23 at xxx.com Fri Apr 2 02:11:49 1999 From: PaperSun23 at xxx.com (PaperSun23 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 20:11:49 EST Subject: Sinister: get-together in the states Message-ID: In a message dated 4/1/99 7:13:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, jalir at bu.edu writes: << I live in Boston but I would be more than willing to come down to nyc if someone actually arranged it. >> I'd also be willing to come back to the city for a spell should there be a lovely picnic. xxxMoon Patroller Carrie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pbelinsk at xxx.net Fri Apr 2 03:17:51 1999 From: pbelinsk at xxx.net (Molly) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 21:17:51 -0500 Subject: Sinister: The night shift Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990401211751.007bd2d0@northernway.net> Cool! I like the strain of events that showed up in my mailbox today. I just laughed laughed laughed at Honey's misquote, or rather, his being misquoted, and now the U.S.ers are showing up for the night shift. I always think about what time it must be over the sea, and when prime e-mail time is in the U.K.. It appears to be around 3 pm EST. So while far away the *other* time zone is sleeping the clock around, Ma in her kerchief and Honey in his cap, we can provide a little morning surprize when they check their morning mail. When I first bought TBWTAS I thought that the beginning of one of the songs sounded a lot like a Yo La Tengo song, but today when I tried to recall it I had listened to both too many times to be able to discern which ones I thought to be so similar. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? It will probably come to me soon (right after I press send, no doubt). I find the thought of a fox in the snow tattoo extremely enticing.Too bad I am rather a wimp at needles. I tried to draw one near my foot, my handiwork in gel pen a poor substitute for professional sharp things. My cute scribblings turned out more like a cow. It's a pretty nice, friendly looking cow though. Then I was daydreaming about my new computer (uh, seeing as how I'm nowhere near a purchase maybe I shouldn't use the term "my") and tried to mimic the Apple typeface right on the bottom of my left foot. It didn't look so hot either. And then I realized it was a bit... oh, obsessive. So I made it plural and made the cow a grocery list ('cept I spelled bannana wrong, oh so wrong). I liked it so much that I took a picture and put it as my wallpaper. Yay! bub-eye molly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From k.watson at xxx.uk Fri Apr 2 10:00:25 1999 From: k.watson at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:00:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The horror Message-ID: <01BE7CEF.A10F1220.k.watson@cableinet.co.uk> >I'm off to Glasgow tomorrow to see Anne and Chris and Julia and Keef, >we're going to Spy if anyone's interested in coming. Shyness and >xylophones are strictly forbidden. Yes indeed, anyone who's about should come along... Just to confirm, when Tag says we're "Going to spy" he doesn't mean we're all going to hang outside of Ca Va trying to find out what Belle and Sebastian's next move is, what he means is that we're going to "Spy" which is a poncy looking bar on Bath Street - to drink beer. Oh and girls - if you're coming, I know it's taboo, but be sure to remember to bring your sanitary products. If anyone's confused, if you do come along, I look like my picture on this page (keithpissed) when pissed up. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/people.html Tag - mail me and let me know what time you are turning up! Cheers, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From conform at xxx.com Fri Apr 2 05:44:02 1999 From: conform at xxx.com (Seamus Campbell) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 20:44:02 -0800 Subject: Sinister: sleater-kinney at bowlie Message-ID: <01FF24001403D011AD7B00A024BC53C53BF3B2@mail.deming.com> for what it's worth, i'm not expecting sleater-kinney to make it. carrie's hurt her back and their current tour has been indefinitely postponed. too bad, imho. -----Original Message----- From: david kitchen - jeepster [mailto:shop at xxx.uk] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 1999 10:23 AM To: Stephane Cc: sinister at Majordomo.net Subject: Re: Sinister: The line-up (according to the NME) Stephane wrote: > > Hi list... > > Ailsa Ross a écrit: > > > The NME online seem to have beaten our own esteemed newslists to the following confirmed line-up, so for those of you interested, point yourselves to: > > http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/19990231123814news.html > > Well, I dont know whether all these infos are confirmed or not (any idea, david?), maybe we should check on the Jeepster site before, yep, ideas abound, the latest line up is in the news section of the bowlie site at http://www.jeepster.co.uk/bowlie/news/index.htm there may still be a few changes last minute, but hopefully not. we do also have stage times, but since these tend to fluctuate up until ten minutes before the bands go onstage i'd be a fool to post them. all of the stage times and details will be available via the televisions in every chalet when you get there, this way they're bang up to date and no-one comes knocking on our door because you've missed ten minutes of the fannies! cheers david ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk WE ARE MOVING, NEW ADDRESS: PO BOX 14153, LONDON SW11 4XU, UK to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Apr 2 09:49:41 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:49:41 +0200 Subject: Sinister: The Pee/Dough Files Message-ID: <01be7ce5$c034e6c0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> A big round of applause for Papercuts fanzine editor Stephen Trouss6 for sending in that marvellous article. I think we all came out of it very well, especially JJ and Rachel, who got married because of Belle and Sebastian. I bet Linda was laughing at the same thing that made me guffaw in a very un-ladylike manner. Paul, I think it's high time you updated our footers. Tag said he didn't recognise himself in the article, but I bloody well did. Something about staff rooms, I think. Tag also wrote: Three weeks till St Moumoune's Day Is this one of those coded lovey-dovey messages? Any road, you'll be thrilled to learn that our special tidy little community has hit the newstands in sunny Spain as well, in Fluffy's favourite paper El País, in the special section for groovy young people with tattoos. I t has a picture of a Scotch sex kitten surrounded by three ugly ugly ugly boys, all looking at some poxy book. GUERILLA IN THE PRIZES How to stop the most horrible artists always winning prizes? Belle and Sebastian were competing in the revelation group category of the Brit Awards against prfabricated products more popular than them, like 5ive or Another Level. As this prize is decided by the votes of Radio One listeners, the Scots made a call to their fans via Internet for them to lend their support, putting forward the argument that it was a unique opportunity to "give an enormous rude gesture involving putting your fist over your elbow and raisng your arm as if it was an erect penis (you know what I mean) to the music industry". More than 9000 responded, and the group took the prize home to the amazement of everybody - this would never happen in Spain: thanks to the democratic election systems of our awards, The Ear of Van Gogh and Malú can be sure of their deserved statuettes-. --------------------- Well, they seem to have got half the story right. I wonder how much dosh they're offering for the other half? By the way, the dictionary said "V-sign" but I thought that was a bit too rough and unsophisticated for our lot, and I don't know the word for the "charmante" continental equivalent, and besides, why should Trouss6's scanner get all the attention? Right, I'm off to watch Real Madrid youth team against Moscow Dynamo or Dynamo Moscow's youth team on our local footy field. I'm rooting for the Ruskies. Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkorchia at xxx.fr Fri Apr 2 11:52:24 1999 From: mkorchia at xxx.fr (Michael Korchia) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 12:52:24 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Watoo Watoo News Message-ID: <3704A168.D8FC2800@club-internet.fr> Hi, I guess this is OK with list netiquette (I read it!) Let me announce the release of the new Watoo Watoo CDep, & a Watoo Watoo gig... Let's start with this one. For the ones who missed us in San Francisco last week, we're playing in Paris, on Sunday, in 'Le Pop'in', 105 rue Amelot, near la Bastille, at 7 pm. This will be during the Queer Indie Tea, a weekly party organized by our friends from Popingay. Pascale will sing, I'll play the bass & guitar & Guillaume, from Gypsophile, will play the guitars. & we've just released a new CDep! One of the songs, Back & Safe, was written while i was listening to IYFS 5 times a day (looking at the title initials & listening to the song, this is quite easy to guess). This is the label blurb: *********************************** Ever-so-slightly behind schedule... Radio Khartoum presents the follow up to (the already out-of-print) "Un Peu de Moi": "Picture of a Lost Friend" by WATOO WATOO Six new pieces by our favorite Parisian duo, which, fortunately for all involved, have weathered the delays beautifully. The mini album features two jazzy songs ("The Golden Castle" and "L'Ennui") and a simple, sentimental instrumental ("Dans le Train") which were originally produced for 18fps (but rejected so that we could insist on making a Watoo Watoo CD instead); an exquisite example of what we call "driving music" (see Jim Jarmusch's "Stranger than Paradise" for the origin of this phrase; see Cessna's "Continental Diner" for another musical example of the genre), oddly enough named after a street (Alcatraz Avenue); a song which we will simply describe as quintessential Watoo Watoo: quick, upbeat and yet vaguely sad (Back and Safe); and finishes with the hummingbird worthy (at 194 BPM) and appropriately titled "I Could Never Run That Fast." Memory and separation may be the key to these songs, but if we mention that, it's only because it's something that one doesn't notice about Watoo Watoo right away. The music complements the wistful lyrics with lightness and whimsy. If Club 8 were a bit lighter on their feet and had French accents, perhaps... And a taste for Martin Duffy era Felt. Gorgeous guest performances by guitarists Didier Duclos (Christine) and Antoine Chabert (ex-Yachines) run throughout. This six song 3" CD may can be obtained from the finest international pop mailorder sources, as well as directly from Radio Khartoum for U.S. $7, postpaid to any destination in the world. Checks or money orders should be in U.S. funds and payable to Alexander Bailey. Radio Khartoum also accepts crispy paper money from some countries (please inquire). Those sending cash are cautioned to be discreet as Radio Khartoum cannot be responsible for cash lost in the mail. Radio Khartoum 722 Alcatraz Ave. No. 106 Oakland CA 94609 USA mailto:xander at sirius.com http://www.sirius.com/~xander/rk ******************************** (of course, you can also buy the CD directly from me) __^o^__ Michael Korchia mkorchia at club-internet.fr Watoo Watoo Homepage : http://www.multimania.com/watoo/ Mumbly Homepage : http://www.multimania.com/aurore/emumbly.htm +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From louise at xxx.uk Fri Apr 2 21:26:24 1999 From: louise at xxx.uk (Louise) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:26:24 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Fw: b&s Message-ID: <002601be7d47$14dc8960$ee2a883e@computer> -----Original Message----- From: roy To: indiepop-list at eskimo.com Date: 02 April 1999 02:24 Subject: Re: b&s >By the way, the new Shinkansen Records update is worth reading for many >reasons (as always)... particularly interesting are the musings about Belle >& Sebastian. > >oh, the address: http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~shink/news.htm (or >http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~shink/ ) > > >wonder if the Sinister list reacted to it at all, hmm... > >roy > > >-----Original Message----- >From: ALTONBARNS at xxx.com> >To: indiepop-list at eskimo.com >Date: Friday, April 02, 1999 2:05 AM >Subject: Re: b&s > >>I think the news about Stuart Murdoch releasing a solo has been taken the >>wrong way....this weeks UK Melody Maker mentioned it as a piece of sarcasm >>when they slated the Gentle Waves CD. Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't >>think there will be a SM solo album in the near future. > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >to unsubscribe - To: indiepop-list-request at eskimo.com Subject: unsubscribe >to get digest - To: indiepop-digest-request at eskimo.com Subject: subscribe >for questions or problems - stevet at eskimo.com or www.eskimo.com/~stevet >========================================================================== > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Fri Apr 2 15:38:27 1999 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:38:27 EST Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V3 #106 Message-ID: <9fec8be7.24363063@aol.com> So... Select magazine said our list is just a lot of smut? Hmmm...nothing wrong with that although I think we are more than just the occasional primal hormonal posting. Could it be a Select April Fool's gag? Pete End of sinister-digest V3 #106 ****************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Montesory at xxx.com Fri Apr 2 17:37:18 1999 From: Montesory at xxx.com (Montesory at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:37:18 EST Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V3 #105 Message-ID: In a message dated 4/2/99 6:34:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, owner-sinister-digest at Majordomo.net writes: << B&S really should have some sort of get-together here in the states sometime... >> Yeah really. I've been to seven Postal-Blowfish gatherings (Guided by Voices mind you who have a lot of cross over fans with B&S) and I must say, I've made a lot of cool friends and had a lot of fun. And drank too much damn beer. Ugh! JoeySLEEEEEEEEEEE +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Blissxo at xxx.com Fri Apr 2 17:37:50 1999 From: Blissxo at xxx.com (Blissxo at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:37:50 EST Subject: Sinister: poo to copolymers, yay to right-hand drive vehicles Message-ID: <512fba38.24364c5e@aol.com> hi sinisterines, you've no doubt missed me over these last few weeks. i can tell, because not only were you deprived of my lovely list posts but there are oh-so-few of you that have kept up at the tweesocks headquarters (bastards!). so what has jessica been up to, you ask? well, i've been in glorious england, glorious portsmouth to be precise, don't bother heading out to the nearest hmv or virgin for the gentle waves or looper because they don't have them. and i had my heart set, too... but that disappointment was skilfully counteracted by a certain sweet grr, who sensed my emptiness and filled it with dinner and a pint. bless him. i was also a bit saddened that i didn't have the privilege of meeting up with any of you lovely kids, even those of you that tried. such is the bane of the existence of a girl prone to extended lie-ins and overindulgence of shreddies. i'll have to buy myself tetley tea in the round bags and have it with milk every morning. it's become such a habit. and for those of you who don't know, american and british shreddies are different. the uk ones are much better. and i am horribly jetlagged, i've been up since 3 this morning because i somehow believe that it's 9am, even though it very clearly isn't. i would swear to you that it's after 5pm right now, but everything around me points to 11am. how sad. but what's not sad is the fun that i had: didn't get to see any bands, but did see a positively phenomenal show called "incognito" put on by the jumpstart dance company (also had the pleasure of learning about the ins and outs of british lighting and electricity, as well as how to steer a large piece of scaffolding when there's a man on the top) - if any of you get the chance to see it, please do. you'll have an epiphany. the next two shows are on 28 april at the west end centre, aldershot, and then on 29 april at coventry university of performing arts. and there's no need to underestimate walks by the sea or evenings spent in a flat, shooting all the bad guys on a playstation. also of note were b+s-related sightings in british magazines: gentle waves in the face, and looper in dazed and confused. but i think someone may have mentioned them already. i've also developed a secret delgadoes crush. shhh, everyone, i like to remain low profile. i suppose that's it, then - entertaining oneself in the wee hours of the day seems to affect the brain in a strange way. i'm not usually using this crap aol email, but it's where i am right now. variety is the spice of life, as they say. love, jessicaxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Fri Apr 2 18:31:44 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:31:44 EST Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V3 #105 Message-ID: As to a get together for US fans in NYC: That would be nice, really, although I've never been there before, and don't know anything about the geography of it. I'm sure I could find some sort of relative in the area who would let me stay with them. I promise to bring many of my friends and loved ones who fancy Belle and Sebastian. Incidentally, I just found out that one of you lovely sinisterines lives in the same town as me! and, humorously enough, lives about 15 minutes away.. if I wasn't so shy and tw**, perhaps i would locate these people through means other than the internet... cheers dave.. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stray4f at xxx.net Fri Apr 2 18:12:11 1999 From: stray4f at xxx.net (quiet) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 13:12:11 -0400 Subject: Sinister: sleater-kinney at bowlie Message-ID: <199904021813.NAA61610@pimout1-int.prodigy.net> ---------- >From: "Seamus Campbell" >To: >Subject: Sinister: sleater-kinney at bowlie >Date: Fri, Apr 2, 1999, 12:44 AM > >for what it's worth, i'm not expecting sleater-kinney to make it. carrie's >hurt her back and their current tour has been indefinitely postponed. > >too bad, imho. > Actually, her recovery is going well, and the band will be playing as planned. They plan to arrive in the UK on the 21st, open for John Spencer in Manchester and London, then play Saturday at Bowlie, then their own show at the Garage on the 27th or so. All of those US dates that were cancelled when she frayed the tendons of her back have been rescheduled for late May/Early June as well. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris.jones at xxx.uk Fri Apr 2 18:53:21 1999 From: chris.jones at xxx.uk (Chris Jones) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 18:53:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: What do I do? Message-ID: <199904021755.SAA11967@smtp.saqnet.co.uk> chris.jones at saqnet.co.uk http://www.saqnet.co.uk/users/saxtead/chris.htm Ininformed wannabe pop critic: So, what's your favourite band? Me: Belle & Sebastian Ininformed wannabe pop critic: Who? I haven't heard of them so they must be crap. How should I respond to this? Chris Jones. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Fri Apr 2 19:20:37 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 19:20:37 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: What do I do? In-Reply-To: <199904021755.SAA11967@smtp.saqnet.co.uk> Message-ID: Chris Jones said: > Ininformed wannabe pop critic: So, what's your favourite band? > Me: Belle & Sebastian > Ininformed wannabe pop critic: Who? I haven't heard of them so they must be > crap. > How should I respond to this? Look vague and go off and make a cup of tea? Actually I'd say something harmless in response, but leave enough ambiguity that they can tell everyone else down the pub what you said a bit later, in an imprecise context, which will make you sound like some sort of indie elitist. Then you can go off and moan about it for a bit. honey x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rhendin at xxx.edu Fri Apr 2 19:36:28 1999 From: rhendin at xxx.edu (rhendin) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:36:28 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk CD Message-ID: <199904021832.NAA11937@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> Just an FYI for y'all: Amazon.com, our favorite place on the web for books and music, is taking advance orders for Tigermilk on CD. I just noticed it today for the first time..up there with TBWTAS and AYFS, et al. so, if you want a pre-order. it is available. Rob in Washington +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnk at xxx.gr Sat Apr 3 00:20:32 1999 From: johnk at xxx.gr (John Koliopanos) Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 02:20:32 +0300 Subject: Sinister: sleater-kinney at bowlie References: <199904021813.NAA61610@pimout1-int.prodigy.net> Message-ID: <370550C0.68C06559@flash.gr> Erm, I just thought you'd like to know that SLEATER-KINNEY will be also playing on the 23rd of April at the Pavilion, Brighton. Support will come from the fab MARINE RESEARCH. Have fun, anyone who's planning on going . . . John quiet wrote: > ---------- > >From: "Seamus Campbell" > >To: > >Subject: Sinister: sleater-kinney at bowlie > >Date: Fri, Apr 2, 1999, 12:44 AM > > > > >for what it's worth, i'm not expecting sleater-kinney to make it. carrie's > >hurt her back and their current tour has been indefinitely postponed. > > > >too bad, imho. > > > > Actually, her recovery is going well, and the band will be playing as > planned. They plan to arrive in the UK on the 21st, open for John Spencer > in Manchester and London, then play Saturday at Bowlie, then their own show > at the Garage on the 27th or so. All of those US dates that were cancelled > when she frayed the tendons of her back have been rescheduled for late > May/Early June as well. > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ > +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From conform at xxx.com Sat Apr 3 02:09:37 1999 From: conform at xxx.com (Seamus Campbell) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:09:37 -0800 Subject: Sinister: poetry friday Message-ID: <01FF24001403D011AD7B00A024BC53C53BF3BD@mail.deming.com> i've not been reading the list regularly for quite some time; i have perpetually got 800 (no joke!) unready sinister messages in the old sinister folder these days. but ramping up my enthusiasm for bowlie, and my first real trip out of the country, i thought i'd make a dazzling reappearance (ok, appearance; i'm mostly a lurker) with some sinister poetry sharing. a little home-grown bawdy verse. but first, some background. i didn't write this poem. it was a product of a game that a number of friends and i have been playing called (oddly enough) "the sonnet game". the object is simple. a group of people with pen and papers compose end-of-line rhymes to fit the sonnet rhyme scheme (ABABCDCDEFEFGG). then they exchange papers, and everyone writes a sonnet to fit the rhymes they've recieved. then they all read their sonnets out loud and have a celebratory beer, or juice or what have you. i've got a moderate colloection of these, and i've been thinking about trying to put together a sonnet game zine. i may try to have it done in time to distribute at bowlie or at the may meet-up. if people are interested, i would love to be organizer to an online round of sonnet-gaming. just write me with the word sonnet in the header and i'll send you the sonnet game f.a.q.. and if you're still interested, i'll include you in the game, and you may make it into the zine. okay, here goes. Within his cheeks there bloom'd a vivid flush On glimpsing what he'd gleaned to be a corpse. The grasses 'round grew thick and green and lush, And Odin gazed upon his lover Norse. With strength and vig'r bestowed on him by Thor, He consumated this love quite taboo. And though assured the prone one would be sore, He took him thrice, whisp'ring "my sweet baboo". With decorated shield he made a makeshift pillow On which he placed the viking's chopped-off schnoz And resting there, his heart swimmed like a minnow In penitence, and reviewing Viking laws. Then with his sword from sheath stained black and roseate Od'n cut his path to Norseman's pearly gate. hope i haven't disturbed too many of you with that. here's another from the game that's a little more normal. i did this one: when love so often grows sour and fickle and lawyers serve a thick and sorry sheaf gavels come to stand more as a sickle property usurps heart's domain from 'neath children! when you stand in hizzoner's queue you ne'er forget a small token of graft else promptly you shall have a cause to rue and watch old love laugh and laugh and laugh if a bribe to you seem all too minor you merely have a more difficult wait rewards due are richer and the finer for true wounds only time can sate ex-lovers' pain must surely be hardest why do you lawyers reap all of the harvest? if this isn't enough to teach me not to drink at work, i don't know what will. enjoy! seamus +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From travelling_light at xxx.com Sat Apr 3 07:38:33 1999 From: travelling_light at xxx.com (travelling_light at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:38:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: What's your intention? Message-ID: <199904030638.WAA16245@webmail.sonypictures.com> Someone you know has sent you a calling card with only the best of intentions. To pick up your card, click on the URL below. http://cgi.spe.sony.com/cgi/postcards/cruel/postcard.cgi?59542+923121513 --- In the game of seduction there is only one rule, never fall in love. --- To send a calling card of your own, visit the Cruel Intentions web site at: http://www.cruelintentions.com See the movie in theatres March 5, 1999. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Sat Apr 3 12:20:07 1999 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen - jeepster) Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 12:20:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: london picnic Message-ID: <3705F967.7CFE5292@jeepster.co.uk> with a misty rain setting over london on this easter saturday, things don't look too good for the picnic tomorrow, but no fear, as always a contigency plan is in place and this is it; we'll still be meeting at camden town tube station at around 3pm (to spare confusion), and if we decide that it's too wet or overcast, and if the sun doesn't show it's head, well that's ok, we'll just head up the road to the usual haunt of The Spread Eagle pub where we'll enjoy the rest of the afternoon in a warm and friendly (and slightly alcoholic) environment before making our way to the the Firkin pub opposite the Improv Theatre (on Tottenham Court Road, nr Warren Street) for a little gathering before heading in tothe gentle waves gig :) so, hopefully we'll see you tomorrow :) cheers david ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk WE ARE MOVING, NEW ADDRESS: PO BOX 14153, LONDON SW11 4XU, UK to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eliam at xxx.edu Sat Apr 3 18:25:59 1999 From: eliam at xxx.edu (Marie Elia) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 99 12:25:59 -0500 Subject: Sinister: summer in winter Message-ID: <199904031718.MAA18303@pellns.alleg.edu> hey, you lot -- all this talk of the london picnic makes me very sad. not only because i am stranded at my little liberal arts college in western pennsylvania, but because only one week ago i was IN london, the most amazing city.... (well, my newyork roots are screaming "nyc representin'!!!", but honestly i think london had all the good things about nyc and not so much of the bad...) alas, i think kimmy (kisskiss!) and i shall arrange our own B&S picnic, right here in (presently) sunny meadville. we realized that only about 3 other people on campus would probably come, but that's okay. tea, biscuits, lemonade, and sunshine... that's all that's required. oh, and a bottle of wine -- what's a picnic without a bit of inebriation?? speaking of kim, we recently were called upon to fill an empty slot in the schedule of our campus radio station. we did our first show yesterday, entitled The Sinister Hour/Rad Thrashin' Chicks Hour (it fluctuates...). anyway, DJ KIsMet and i accosted the ears of our listeners with the Glasgow Half-hour, featuring, B&S, looper, arab strap, the pastels, Bis, and others. all good fun! okay -- you londoners have a fab time tomorrow (she says, whining a bit). xo, marie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelrebel at xxx.uk Sat Apr 3 18:36:40 1999 From: rebelrebel at xxx.uk (Jane Blackall) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 18:36:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: ooooh! Message-ID: <002b01be7df8$893277a0$0d4d08c3@oemcomputer> ...ah, I'm full of pre-picnic excitement and bounciness! :-) ...well, this is my first post to the luvverly Sinister community, and (after months of shifty lurking) it'll be a modest affair... I fear over-reaching myself, then getting horribly confused and keeling over... then I'd have to go back into hiding until the embarassment wore off, which could take quite some time... ...but yes - picnic, london, tomorrow!... how will I spot my fellow Sinister types at the tube station?... or will it be obvious?... is it written all over us?... ...I'm off to do some girly baking now, so that (barring culinary mishaps) I will have something tasty to offer the masses come tomorrow afternoon... hope to see lots of you there... love, janey applecake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From karastar at xxx.com Sat Apr 3 20:07:39 1999 From: karastar at xxx.com (Kara Baer) Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 11:07:39 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Younger than Yesterday Message-ID: Hello Sinister! I've decided that it is impossible to see Belle & Seb on more than one show per tour. I attempted it in the States (DC and Philly) and as I'm now between terms, I decided that I would try to see the Gentle Waves in both Leeds and Cardiff. After 6 hours on the train, 15 minutes on the bus, and some wandering around lost in Cardiff Bay, I come to the Cardiff Coal Exchange which has a wee sign on the door saying : "Due to circumstances beyond our control, the Gentle Waves show has been canceled." Le sigh... Anyway, the Leeds show was great fun. I was the girl in the bright orange jacket sitting between some popkids I had met and Dave, who studiously ignored me all evening. The two films screened were Les Mistons and the Red Balloon. Two sweet french films only marred by a drunk girl in pigtails calling out "this is boring!" Isobel seemed very very nervous. You could barely hear her at first, although her confidece seemed to pick up at the end. She didn't really look or talk to the audience. The instrumentation was great, from Vibraphone to french horn. Although the songs seemed a bit amaturish at times, it was all very sweet and unaffected. I'm very disapointed to have missed the Cardiff show. Love Kara *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Sat Apr 3 21:19:48 1999 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 14:19:48 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: Looper In-Reply-To: <512fba38.24364c5e@aol.com> Message-ID: I had been hesitant to listen to the Looper disc -- wanting to like it, but suspecting I wouldn't. While I don't necessarily like to be the curmudgeon, it's my job and I'm proud of it. So I must report that I didn't like it. Not the kind of thing that is likely to kick in later, either. If Isobel's album shows any evidence that she may have visited a vocal coach, please let me know. I'll settle for any new-found ability to project from the diaphragm. If only to avoid a completely negative post, I will recommend the new David Sylvian album. You will like it. Gorgeous. --Mark __ Burning Rome : SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 > Distributed by Dutch East India Trading, Com Four, and Carrot Top < < http://www.xnet.com/~mkolmar/BurningRome > < MP3 & RealAudio tracks > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Sat Apr 3 21:54:32 1999 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 15:54:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: ill Message-ID: i'm sick. it's all poo, so i'm really really bored. i'm on the computer now, watching home fries which really shows how bored i am. i just put up my new magnetic fields poster and updated my web page and have been sorting through dozens upon dozens of random scraps of paper in my room. have any of you ever wondered about garbage, how it travels and rots and how we create piles and piles and piles. you know, for a drew barrymore comedy, this movie has one weirdass premise. ok, sigh, list content. think think think.... we should have a new york pincnic. there. i'm not up to planning it right now, i'm very busy being ill and attempting to think straight through my headache. this is pretty amusing, but i dunno if it will work so well as a list wide email. i guess i'll just suggest some other bands for people to listen too. right now i've been into stereo total lately. they rock, they sing in bunches of languages and just make happy dance music. oh well, i give up. xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu who are magnetic fields? http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ updated 4/3/99 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Sat Apr 3 22:14:48 1999 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 15:14:48 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: proposed Chicago-area meetup Message-ID: I would like to arrange a meetup for Chicago-area listmembers. Ordinarily, I should be one of the last candidates to organize something that resembles a party. Among this crowd, though, my qualifications are probably about average. So let's give it a try. If you would be interested, get in touch. If you can suggest a place to meet, an activity, etc., please do. This is only of interest to a very small number of listmembers, so please be sure to reply only to me. What we do would depend in part on how many people are interested. So far there are 3 of us. (2 people expressed interest when I floated the idea in another message on another topic.) I may post a reminder in the future, but again, all discussion should happen off the list. --Mark __ Burning Rome : SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 > Distributed by Dutch East India Trading, Com Four, and Carrot Top < < http://www.xnet.com/~mkolmar/BurningRome > < MP3 & RealAudio tracks > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sat Apr 3 23:01:05 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 17:01:05 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Thinking Of A Snappy Subject Is Always The Hardest Part Message-ID: <199904031701_MC2-7082-F9AF@compuserve.com> Hi Fragrant Ones, In preparation for Sunday's family outing to the gig at The Improv I've been listening to The Jumble Sales album several times over the last couple of days. (Which is easier to do than you might think, seeing as it weighs in at a rather scrawny 31 minutes :( ). Immediate grabbers, apart from the two P!O!P tunes we know and love from the single, are the country flavoured "Renew & Restore" (pretty tune vaguely remniscent of the Grateful Dead's "Ripple" (!) and excellent Glen D. Hardin piano from Christopher Thomas Geddes) and what I think is the real jewel in the crown, "A Chapter in The Life Of Mathiew" (Even prettier tune, catchy chorus, beautiful tinkly guitar/piano/glockenspiel playing, breathy background vocals from Mrs Murdoch's talented son.) Can't get it out of my head: a fantastic track which wouldn't shame, or be out of place on, a Belle and Sebastian album. And what finer compliment could there be than that? Non B&S content? I still have to shake my head and jig about whenever I hear "Flat Beats", and I'm getting whiplash/RSI from those speeded up bits. David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From L.Kerr at xxx.uk Sun Apr 4 00:23:34 1999 From: L.Kerr at xxx.uk (L. Kerr) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 00:23:34 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: E-POP: Gentle Waves (fwd) Message-ID: Hi there (said in a sing-song voice). Thought you might like to see this posted to the e-pop list about the Gentle Waves gig. Hope Dan doesn't mind my posting it. Linda ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 16:38:50 EST From: DJYork11 at xxx.com To: europop at alcd.soton.ac.uk Subject: E-POP: Gentle Waves Gentle Waves in Leeds: The venue was the Leeds City Varities Theatre (World Famous, apparently) and it was all very strange. It's an old fashioned music hall type of place, and this didn't seem like the sort of thing they normally put on. Future events included Rabbi Lionel Blue, Roy Walker and (I kid you not) the Whitbread Senior Citizens Talent Contest (Leeds Heat). There was *no-one* there - it was probably over two-thirds empty. And being a theatre it was all seated, so unlike at Looper nobody felt the urge to shout "stand up you twee fuckers" at the crowd. The films were both French, one about a group of boys obsessed with an older woman and the other (much better) one was about a boy who befriends a magical red balloon which follows him everywhere. It was good, honest. The Gentle Waves themselves turned out to be pretty much all of B&S. Isobel was *very* nervous. It was all a bit chaotic between songs (in true B&S style, I suppose) what with unplugging of guitar leads causing earth-shattering THUMPS and lost triangle strings (major hold up, that one) and set list confusion. But despite all that it was very good - definitely leaning towards the more whimsy bits of B&S but there were only a couple of songs that sounded a bit too lightweight on first hearing. They even managed an instrumental "jam", involving something that sounded like a cowbell and was fantastic - you really couldn't tell they were making it up until Chris told us afterwards. And another song (Kinky Love) that was written about 5 minutes before they came on, apparently. Ric was right with the IYFS comparisons - there was plenty of trumpets, flutes and xylophones involved. On the whole it was excellent stuff, I probably enjoyed it more than Looper despite not having heard any of the songs beforehand. Dan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From travelling_light at xxx.com Sun Apr 4 07:09:42 1999 From: travelling_light at xxx.com (Kin Woo) Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 22:09:42 PST Subject: Sinister: Dirty Dream vid on RAGE (lots of B&S content!) Message-ID: <19990404060944.57723.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey lovely listees (LL!) By now I hope you will have checked out the *fabu* virtual card I sent to the list about this great new movie "Cruel Intentions". But I was reading the card and my message is cut off! Boo! Well what I mean to say, is that I've seen the movie and totally LOVED it so thought I'd share it will all you guys- since sharing is caring! The acting is fantastic, particularly Sarah Michelle Gellar's (a total change from "Buffy" and an effective one too- she's WONDERFUL as the venomous bitch!) and Reese Witherspoon's performances who prove themselves to be among the finest of the new crop of actors (along with Christina Ricci of course). Most importantly and pertinent to you folks though is that there is far more than enough delightfully wicked smut in the film to keep any Sinisterine satisfied:) So with such great twists updating one of the strongest narratives of all time ("Les Liaisons Dangereuses"), a wonderfully trashy and nasty dialogue, great performances, you end up with a movie you can't afford to miss. Go see it listees, you won't be disappointed! It's definitely one of my fave movies of the year already. What I'm also posting about is praise to God, some actual B&S content!!! What you say in amazement, yes it's all true!!! I've just seen the video for "Dirty Dream no 2" on this late night video show here in Australia called "Rage" and it's erm interesting!:) A cool lo-fi video showing quite a lot of people doing quite a lot of strange off-beat things. I definitely be keeping the vid for keeps cos everything B&S do is momentous right? I dimly remember months ago that someone on the list had invited everyone in Athens at a certain time to come and be a part of the video. So is this the video they selected for use in the end??? Help me out here! Someone tell me what's going on:) If they actually used a fan made video, that is just so unbelievably COOL AND GREAT, just another reason to add to the multitude of reasons I already have, about why I love Belle and Sebastian so much. I don't think any other band in history have interacted with their fans on such a level before. So I should assume that all the people in the vid are listees- wow YOU GUYS! YOU'RE FAMOUS NOW!!!:):) Would have LOVED to participate, if only I wasn't stuck here in Australia! On the topic of videos, I'm sorry to have missed seeing the "Is It Wicked Not To Care?" video (Australian listees, did they show this on "Rage" and did I miss it???) I saw a clip of it when I was in London, but alas it was too short. Looked really lovely though, all very atmospheric and gorgeous. Can anyone who's seen it tell me what it's like and what's it about? On a final video-related note, the video for the new Lamb single "B-Line" ROCKS! Lamb always make very interesting arty vids (check out the AMAZING video for "Gorecki") and this one is no exception. There is such a perfect synchronicity between song and image. Excellent! Go see. Ok that's all for now, till later listees! Seeya Kin Woo With A Star Upon Your Shoulder Lighting Up The Path As You Walk Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TheeXVirus at xxx.com Mon Apr 5 04:02:58 1999 From: TheeXVirus at xxx.com (TheeXVirus at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 23:02:58 EDT Subject: Sinister: b&s site gone? Message-ID: <3470d0a4.243981e2@aol.com> Just tried to get to Stuart David's one from the Jeepster one and got some sort of error file not found message. Just curious what happened.... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MWaggner at xxx.com Mon Apr 5 05:31:57 1999 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 00:31:57 EDT Subject: Sinister: Rubbing Elbows with the Infamous Message-ID: <5d1c2945.243996bd@aol.com> Hello Sinisterines... Ah, you may have had (or not had) your Gentle Waves, you may have had your picnics, meetups, Primrose Hills and pubs, your Seders, your Easter Egg hunts, High Masses and the whole thing... BUT you can all eat your hearts out because *I* met the one and only, the infamous, the platinum-haired, expatriated star of the cyber-cam, yes indeed -- RODDDDDDDD -- in Boston this weekend. So there, HA! He was wearing the universal Symbol of Sinisterhood, the Honey-mandated upsidedown B&S badge ... he was rawking and jiving to Super Furry Animals with great abandon and he did NOT spill a single drop of beer. We chatted about things Sinister and Bostonian, he capped the evening with some fine dance moves to Olivia Tremor Control, drained his last glass with panache and faded into the night, leaving the entire club wondering, "Who WAS that masked man?" I didn't get his autograph, but that did not lessen the experience. --michele "I really love to take the piss" --Roddddd 2 February 1999 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From monroej at xxx.com Mon Apr 5 07:01:01 1999 From: monroej at xxx.com (John F. Monroe) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 01:01:01 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Secret Goldfish - tie to b&s? does anyone have a site with a _complete_ discography? and where is the Easter Beagle? Message-ID: <007e01be7f29$b10787c0$d85acfa9@monroej.execpc> Now, I just saw for sale an ep by Secret Goldfish claiming it features 'Belle and Sebastian guitarist'. Anyone know about this? I tried checking the trusty archives, but it appeared it was down for maintenance this evening. I have some Secret Goldfish on a few Creeping Bent samplers, but I know little else of them. Does anyone have a complete discography going? no no, not one of those that works for 99.9% of the music loving population, but ones for the super geeks out here :) well, if you do have one, let me know, as I would like to see it. There are several French and US promos ( and I am sure UK ones, and Japanese too perhaps? ). I know of 3 French promotional cd releases for the latest album ( for 'Is It Wicked Not To Care?', 'Dirty Dream #2' and the full length 'The Boy With The Arab Strap' all in nice little cardsleeves, a bit plain looking but still interesting ). As far as the US there is the promotional cd single for 'Like Dylan In The Movies', with a nice lil' blue cover insert, the stickered covered Enclave promo for 'If You're Feeling Sinister' and the SXSW Enclave sampler cd which features two B&S tracks ( I forget which ones now - one is 'Judy and The Dream of Horses' ), along with the stickered cardsleeve promo of TBWTAS. I would think there are some UK equivalents out there as well, which I don't have, but it might be interesting to see all this info collected in one place, along with press kit info, etc. I might be able to send you scans of some of this stuff if you have a website going that archives every release in every format in every country. but maybe such a thing doesn't exist. there was no Easter Beagle 'Peanuts' cartoon today, I was sorely let down, I recall when it was a tradition. Next thing you know Charlie Brown will finally kick that football, what is the world coming to. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Mon Apr 5 10:19:43 1999 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen - jeepster) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 10:19:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: b&s site gone? References: <3470d0a4.243981e2@aol.com> Message-ID: <3708802F.6CFD2603@jeepster.co.uk> TheeXVirus at aol.com wrote: > > Just tried to get to Stuart David's one from the Jeepster one and got some > sort of error file not found message. Just curious what happened.... no the site hasn't gone, but the domain it was under had changed and neither myself or stuart realised. it can now be found at; http://www.myspace.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ and the links from the www.belleandsebastian.co.uk site should work, but if they don't, try and reload your page as you may be viewing an older one in a chache rather than the latest version with the correct links. cheers david ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk WE ARE MOVING, NEW ADDRESS: PO BOX 14153, LONDON SW11 4XU, UK to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mphintz at xxx.com Mon Apr 5 04:53:41 1999 From: Mphintz at xxx.com (Mphintz at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 23:53:41 EDT Subject: Sinister: the good debt Message-ID: <90bb21af.24398dc5@aol.com> My mother told me that the debt I have accumulated to go to Bowlie is "good debt". I'm not sure what "bad debt" is--she mentioned something involving gambling and pool halls. So when the debt collectors start knocking on my door, I will just tell them that my debts are good. Oh, it doesn't work that way? It's all the same in the poorhouse I suppose. Living and loving Matthew --------------------- Stolen Kisses http://members.tripod.com/stolenkisses stolkisses at aol.com/mphintz at aol.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelrebel at xxx.uk Mon Apr 5 12:48:20 1999 From: rebelrebel at xxx.uk (Jane Blackall) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:48:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: pear-shaped Message-ID: <000a01be7f5a$3dcd4700$f84d08c3@oemcomputer> ...yes, it all went a bit pear-shaped for me on the picnic front yesterday. After a night of frantic baking, I was too dozy and shy to randomly accost likely-looking cute strangers amongst the throng outside Camden Town tube... so I ended up wandering home, and taking my cake with me, untouched... ...sob. ...did everybody else manage to meet up ok though?... what did I miss?... ...luckily the Gentle Waves cheered my heart come the evening, bless 'em... it was a sparkling and lovely show (hurrah!)... ...oh, by the way, I don't know if anybody's already made this observation (apologies if I'm repeating this) but wasn't 'Kinky Love' originally a Nancy Sinatra song (more recently covered by the Pale Saints - that's where I know it from, anyway)? ...tatty bye for now, janey applecake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Mon Apr 5 15:36:40 1999 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen - jeepster) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 15:36:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Secret Goldfish - tie to b&s? does anyone have a site with a _complete_ discography? and where is the Easter Beagle? References: <007e01be7f29$b10787c0$d85acfa9@monroej.execpc> Message-ID: <3708CA78.C2D3B52C@jeepster.co.uk> John F. Monroe wrote: > > Now, I just saw for sale an ep by Secret Goldfish claiming it features > 'Belle and Sebastian guitarist'. Anyone know about this? I tried checking > the trusty archives, but it appeared it was down for maintenance this > evening. I have some Secret Goldfish on a few Creeping Bent samplers, but I > know little else of them. > > Does anyone have a complete discography going? no no, not one of those that > works for 99.9% of the music loving population, but ones for the super geeks > out here :) it was stevie who played with secret goldfish, so yes, that's true. as for your comments Re: a complete discography of EVERYTHING, EVER!! well, i suppose that it makes sense for me to compile that, since we have the contacts with all the people that made promo's, etc to get hold of all of the info and make sure it is absolutely complete. so i'll get to work on that and add it somewhere on the site once i've finished :) i'll let you know when it's done obviously ;) would you want scans of all the covers and things like the catalogue numbers for the promo's to aid you in record fairs? on the playing with other bands front, mick and richard are level pegging at the moment with four live performances each over the bowlie weekender, no prize whatsoever to anyone that can successfully guess them all :) cheers david ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk WE ARE MOVING, NEW ADDRESS: PO BOX 14153, LONDON SW11 4XU, UK to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From verena.baur at xxx.de Mon Apr 5 17:30:56 1999 From: verena.baur at xxx.de (verena.baur) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:30:56 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Another first posting.... Message-ID: <001a01be7f81$b72c6000$ada5a8c1@tlktffgb> Hello everybody, so there is another newbie posting to the list...I've been thinking about it for quite a while now, signing onto the list middle of february (so my nursery time should've ended exactly when the old sinister list gave up working - so I wsn't sure if I am allowed to post or not and waited patiently until I got the official 'yes' - But like this I defenitely I had more than 3 weeks nursery . Not that it is that important for me as I seem to be mure of a 'lurker' anyway... So whay am I posing to the list now? Well, I was just wondering if I am the only person from Germany on this list. I read about people form Canada, the UK, Australia and whatever, but I can't recall a posting by another German...Just in case there are any Germans, or even people from Hamburg, maybe we could somehoe get in contact? Because if there is one thing I am missing it is people who are into good music. I have to say I really love Belle and Sebastain (I suppose otherwise I wouldn't have subscribed tio this list...), but it's more their music I am interested in - I suppose you'd never find me drooling over one of the picture from one of the band-members. I also like heaps of other music, like Tindersticks, Arab Strap, Mercury Rev, Gomez, Rialto, P.J. Harvey, Manics, Smashing Pumpkins, Blur, Cure, dEUS, Zita Swoon, Pavement, Garbage, Elastica, Madder Rose, to name just a few. So what else...? I'm a 25 year old girl from Hamburg, at the moment I am busy enjoying the spring-weather which has taken over Haburg over the Easter-Weakend, I work for an Environmental management firm... I don't even have a spectacular story to tell how I came across B&S...SOmebody mentioned them on the Tindersticks list, I got interested, then a friend of mine bought 'TBWTAS', borrowed it to me, I liked it and bought myself the 'IYFS' - Not really fascinating is it. Thanks for listening anyway, Verena +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Mon Apr 5 18:21:32 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:21:32 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Gimble Wabes Gig Message-ID: <199904051321_MC2-7093-B94F@compuserve.com> Hi Sinisterines, (I see that Chris plays guitar left-handed) Yesterday's day of culcher kicked off at the Royal Academy to see the Monet exhibition, continued at the Tate to see everything from Gainsborough to Damien Hirst and thence to the Improv, to watch the two short films, Les Mistons (The Bicycle Saddle Sniffers) and The Red Balloon. The second film nearly didn't start, but the situation was heroically rescued by the video tech (red hair, arms of sex) who later appeared on stage, nonchalantly leaning against a pillar, chewing gum and playing bass with The Gentle Waves. In contrast to reports of the Leeds gig, Isobel did not appear to be nervous, and she directed the rest of the band in such a crisp manner that there was little farting around between songs. In fact I reckon they were only on stage for about 45 minutes, playing most of the album except for Weathershow: Hangman In The Shadow, Evensong (French Version), Renew & Restore, Emanuelle, Skating On Thin Ice, Rose, I Love You, Dirty Snow For The Broken Ground, A Chapter In The Life Of Mathiew, To Salt A Scar. Can't be sure if they played Tree Lullaby & Enchanted Place: I think so the former, less certain of the latter. Five songs not on the album were aired: Loretta Young, Grazing In The Grass (Mick Trumpet lead instrumental), Pretty Things, Kinky Love and recently written Flood. The sound was excellent, the vocals were strong & confident, and multi-instrumental talent abounded (including new member Margaret Smith). The audience not only stood up :) but seemed pretty appreciative considering the fact that presumably most of the material was unfamiliar. Personal favourite ...Mathiew gleaned the most applause and crowd reaction to all the subsequent songs seemed warmer. (Or maybe that was due to the appeal of Isobel singing about Kinky Love......) It seems that gig professionalism can improv(e) without affecting the quality of the music, which augurs well for the Bowlie. Very well done, chaps! The upside down badge trick didn't work, but maybe that's due to the darkened venue, or the fact that those Jeepster badges are so tiny! David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eculb at xxx.uk Mon Apr 5 18:48:49 1999 From: eculb at xxx.uk (JaMeS) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:48:49 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Gentle Waves were GREAT! ps. did anyone tape it? and get the setlist????? Message-ID: hello to you all, i thought that the London gig was really really good. yeah, isobel didnt show any nerves onstage, i thought her voice sounded quite strong throughout. my own personal faves were the one with Stevie on harmonica near the beginning, the instrumental (what was isobel playing?), the catchy Kinky Love, and that new one 'which might sound a bit rough', but was in fact simply sublime. overall, i thought it was well worth catching. i hope my GW album arrives soon.... personally i was very chuffed as i bumped into Stuart 3 times over the course of the evening, and had a little chat with isobel too :) wow, thats one of my life's ambitions finally fulfilled... did anyone tape the gig? i'd really really like to get a copy if anyone did. i have loads of B&S rare things on tape to trade. mail me :) oh and if anyones interested ive updated my little site to include a gentle waves gig review by me (in the style of stuart david). pictures to be added when i process the film and scam my uni's scanner.... JaMeS :) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Hall/7789 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Mon Apr 5 19:33:23 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:33:23 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Mucky fingers Message-ID: I've hmmed and I've ahhed and I've finally got round to putting all those cutting from the press online for your delectation. They're whopping great images in some cases, but hey, someone has to use up the electons. So go see a very badly written page of HTML now at: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/press.html featuring the first Sinister public sighting, "that" Select article (with all the nice pictures and non-text and charitable B&S WWW site review in a side-panel), a wicked cartoon, and various other trivial amusements. The first Daily Record article in particular is a corker for "spot the ball". honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Mon Apr 5 20:58:27 1999 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 19:58:27 GMT Subject: Sinister: It's 'orrible being in love when you're 8 and a half Message-ID: <37090b54.13770747@post.demon.co.uk> Hello Young Lovers, I've just eaten most of a Dairy Milk easter egg and I feel a bit queasy. Los Genitales did "Kinky Love"? I like that song, but I feel sure that Isobel's earnest attempt pales into insignificance when compared to 25,000 Manchester City fans hollering "Kinky, take me inside and let the honey slide" two seasons ago, in a heartfelt plea to get "diminutive mercurial Georgian genius" (copyright Manchester Evening News) Georgi Kinkladze to stay at Maine Road for another season. My trip to Glasgow was jolly good fun, I had my usual record spree, and we all went to Julia's house where Chris Lynyrd informed us that one in twenty people in the world had been bedded by Gene Simmons. That means 50 people on this list alone. I've counted eight that I know of - the Duke, Leslie-Jo, Peter Miller, Roddd, Kamp Kommandant Kitchen, JJ, Stuart Gardiner and Andreas. Matt Haines has had him too. And Steve Lowe. Can we have a Simmons Shag register like we did with "Tigermilk"? I had a go on a theramin for the first time the other day. I want one. They may look like a fifth form electronics project entry, but appearances are deceptive, just switch it on and you are instantly Portishead. I'm watching an Estonian film. I bet nobody else here is *that* fucking cultured, not even Keith. Mind you, I'm having some trouble following it as the plot seems to be going in reverse. You're all distracting me, piss off. Tag xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seilsd at xxx.net Mon Apr 5 21:57:25 1999 From: seilsd at xxx.net (Damon Seils) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 16:57:25 -0400 Subject: Sinister: the improbable rise of the jeepster empire Message-ID: <370923B0.924EC5D0@earthlink.net> "It is a certain kind of religion to retire from your subjects." ---Juan Fernández de Medrano Remember when it was a strapping young republic? Maybe even more like an anarcho-syndicalist movement, a doomed experiment in the way of pre-Franco Spain? The Israeli kibbutzim? Jeepster as that really sad, attractive woman in _The Salt of the Earth_? Oh, and Charlie Brown. Surely I'm misremembering, romanticizing... I've been away for a while, a lurker who doesn't even bother to lurk. To be honest (/me shudders), I haven't even pulled out the old B&S records much lately. So imagine my surprise when I returned to the homeland and gave the official Jeepster site a visit! So shiny and smooth! Dreamy, really. The roads and sidewalks have been polished. All sorts of new sections, cozy cushions to hide in, kiosk after kiosk of information about *everything*. Maps, lyrics, pictures, hygiene recommendations, a fortune in gold-plated mailing lists bearing the official imperial seal, message boards, picnics, gigs, new music...! But there I am, walking at a leisurely pace along the new aquaduct, and I arrive at the center of Jeepster City only to find a crater where the old Historical District of town used to be. The only sign of its glory...a rusty sign swinging in the wind, "Ye Olde Sinistre Lavatorie." I guess I can understand it. A burdgeoning world power sheds a bit of itself--maybe even a substantial bit of itself--in the name of "progress." I wonder what it feels like to treat one's roots as mere appendage, to demote one's strongest supporters to a less than "essential" status. I guess it just seems like kind of a shame. --- Damon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Tue Apr 6 01:55:09 1999 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:55:09 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: E-POP: Gentle Waves (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: DJYork11 at xxx.com > To: europop at alcd.soton.ac.uk > Subject: E-POP: Gentle Waves [...] > The films were both French, one about a group of boys obsessed with an older > woman and the other (much better) one was about a boy who befriends a magical > red balloon which follows him everywhere. It was good, honest. This reminds me of a bit from Mr. Show with Bob and David that must have been inspired by the film. I forget now if it was the boy's mom or the bad babysitter, but she deliberately popped the balloon with her cigarette. It's an incredibly funny show. Hope you can view it in England. --Mark __ Burning Rome : SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 > Distributed by Dutch East India Trading, Com Four, and Carrot Top < < http://www.xnet.com/~mkolmar/BurningRome > < MP3 & RealAudio tracks > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Tue Apr 6 02:54:18 1999 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick * Sandcastle Records) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 21:54:18 -0400 Subject: Sinister: What is in a good subject header, really? Message-ID: <37096949.5768376F@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Hello, All this talk of picnics in the US... I think it should be noted that we've already had some. Don't have any idea how many. Less than 40, for sure. I was at one, I think. All I can remember is maiming myself on a vicious bicycle. Of course, that is not a reason to refrain from further picnics. So, we have B&S wallpaper headed our way, eh? Does that mean we could expect a Windows theme or something? Hm, and I for one am glad we have some spies in that other list...whatsitcalled. I forget. I'm glad we have some there, though. Yes. On the subject of Broadcast, as someone else mentioned, I too am curious to hear about their plans. I looked for them on the Ultimate Band List (which is useful if irritating) and came up with some eastern European band which was most certainly not *that* Broadcast. Hm, well, that's all I found myself compelled to comment on, except I'm relieved to find I hadn't slept with Gene Simmons. I was afraid I might have been really tired one night and not noticed. Good thing I'm a light sleeper. /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick/Sandcastle Records <<->> bp224996 at ohiou.edu \ / Sandcastle Records Homepage: ICQ#5056758 | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | -Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pbelinsk at xxx.net Tue Apr 6 02:54:39 1999 From: pbelinsk at xxx.net (Molly) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 21:54:39 -0400 Subject: Sinister: within all government and moral laws? (am I?) Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990405215439.007c8470@northernway.net> I just giggle to myself at the surreptitiousness of the upside down badge thing. I want a badge to put upside down! However I can't figure out how the conversion of funds works though at the Jeepster shop. Not that i have a checkbook or any money anyhow. Would it be an infringement upon anything if I printed a picture of one (or nine!)onto iron-on-transfer paper and then ironed it upside down onto my own t-shirt? Would that be betraying laws and copyrights and domains and whatnot? I figger as long as I put it upside down it'll be okay! It's like two triangles with the same dimensions, but one is flipped around... THEN THEY AREN'T THE SAME! YES! I am thoroughly convinced! All of this talk about brushing elbows with ____ and chatting with _____.. how do you do it? Are they just walking around, there for your bumping into pleasure? I want to run into people. I tried to find Beck once but nay, all I saw of him was what I saw on stage. Of course, I've never been within five hundred miles of B&S, so I wouldn't know the differences of their themness. Back to the mom front: my mom loves IYFS and she sings along to all of the songs. She's befuddled though when I play TBWTAS. She doesn't know the words! She hums along.. and then breaks out into "but if you are feeling sinister go off and see a minister..." I thinks it's really funny cuz I'm pretty sure it's a subconscious thing, and if I said something to her she wouldn't even know what I was talking about. Thassall. Goodnight Western Hemisphere Good Morning/afternoon elsewhere m o l l y +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Tue Apr 6 10:26:30 1999 From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (Michael Jones) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 02:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Positively tumescent Message-ID: <19990406092630.6902.rocketmail@send106.yahoomail.com> Mornin'... Chalk up another score on the quitegoodometer for the Gyroscopic Weasels; I thoroughly enjoyed Sunday evening's frolic through the gay meadow of Ms Campbell's pop mind. I wasn't nearly coherent enough to register which songs were my favourites and, wholly unfamiliar with the Gut-wrenching Wallflowers' oeuvre as I am, I suspect the covers had a head start in my affections anyway. The other Belles present were as nimble and light-footed as Pat Nevin in his prime, though they gave the ball away far less often. Special mention should be made of Stevie's dancing fingers and Chris's swelling organ. That's "and", not "on". I missed both films; we'd been banking on "Confessions of a Sauna Attendant" - Hopkins was even wearing his Robin Askwith pants - but it was all balloons and Truffaut. Arse. Mark Kolmar spoke thus: >If Isobel's album shows any evidence that she may have visited a vocal >coach, please let me know. I'll settle for any new-found ability to >project from the diaphragm. Which only serves to remind me of an old Steve Martin joke. Project, though ? Surely untrained voices can be the most affecting; I mean, we don't want Isobel turning into Tina Turner, do we ? Tina Charles, perhaps. Anyway, thesedays they've got microphones that can record a baby otter talking in its sleep at 200 paces. The Galloping Whelks should sound like Blue Oyster Cult in comparison. >If only to avoid a completely negative post, I will recommend the new >David Sylvian album. You will like it. Gorgeous. I can't (yet) concur with this; seems scant reward, song-wise, for 12 years of wading through half-arsed collaborations and interminable axe-Fripperies. It could be a grower, though. The major chains seem to have it in for fans of arty, precious, fortysomething reformed synth-poppers though - both "Dead Bees..." and last year's Mark Hollis long-player were viciously and unnecessarily expensive in their week of release. Bloody Virgin. Back to balloons again. Sheesh. Mike (quite happy to go on the Simmons shag register as long as it's Jean, circa 1950). _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From L.Kerr at xxx.uk Tue Apr 6 11:39:55 1999 From: L.Kerr at xxx.uk (L. Kerr) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:39:55 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Gently Waving from the Wreckage Message-ID: In a brave attempt to haul sinister from "commendable" to "essential", as designated by the Jeepster BS 6511 standard, I have nicked the review of Gentle Waves from the Guardian. The Gentle Waves improv, London/touring By Phil Daoust Tuesday April 6, 1999 You'd almost think you'd strayed into a student film club. In a central London basement, a few hundred hippish twentysomethings gaze in respectful silence at a couple of French movies. First there's a subtitled print of Les Mistons, Francois Truffaut's black-and-white short about bicycling, doomed love and stirring sexuality. Then comes Le Ballon Rouge, Albert Lamorisse's all-but-silent tale of a boy and the red balloon that is his only friend. When the double-bill draws to a close, the masses burst into applause. Stop that bandwagon now. Bittersweet French movies of the fifties are not the new rock'n'roll. This is what passes for a support act when you go to see those dippy-trippy Francophiles The Gentle Waves. What comes next should be more straightforward. Isobel Campbell, better known as a singer and cellist with Glaswegian musos Belle & Sebastian, leads six colleagues on stage and prepares to unleash her breathy, haunting vocals. She and the rest of The Gentle Waves are out to promote their debut album, The Green Fields Of Foreverland, a catchy fusion of pop and folk and country, sixties in feel but with a punked-up spin reminiscent of the Rezillos. At times it makes you want to wrap your arms around yourself and waltz around the room; at others it pulls you into an amphetamine-frantic 'mashed potato'. Campbell and Co almost do the business. They run through most of their (very short) album, and throw in a handful of new numbers, including a storming trumpet-led instrumental called Grazing In The Grass and a sexed-up number with the very un-Campbell lines, 'Slip inside of me/I'll open the gates'. The playing can't be faulted, and the combination of Campbell's delicate features and steel-in-velvet voice is a moving one. Yet the 45 minutes of live performance comes out even odder, even less rock'n'roll, than what preceded it. The whole band - Campbell included - seem to be auditioning for jobs as tailor's dummies. They move whatever limbs are required to operate their instruments, but little else. Just as Belle & Sebastian have become known for their dour approach to gigging, this spin-off group act as if they will be struck by lightning if they smile, let alone shake a leg. They seem so wrapped up in their music you wonder if they've forgotten they've got an audience. And, true enough, Campbell looks first surprised, then embarrassed, when her fans applaud. Whether this abstracted musicianship is down to arrogance or life-and-death professionalism, your mind can't content itself with this blank canvas. After a while, it starts creating its own images: woman running through field in floaty dress; windswept face in a sixties convertible; sunshine making a rainbow in a torrent of tears. The band become invisible and you might almost be listening to a CD. It's certainly a novel way to run a gig - first get the visuals out of the way, then tackle the music. But I'm not sure that it'll catch on. Linda xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordi-tv at xxx.com Tue Apr 6 10:16:05 1999 From: jordi-tv at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano i Vilar) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 10:16:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Only 17 days Message-ID: <19990406131605.HM.00000000000HUCf@mixmail.com> Yes, I�m becoming more and more impacient just waiting for the Bowlie Weekender. I�ve been out for a few days, having a little holidays, and you can guess what answers did I get when I talked to my friends about the Bowlie and my zine. I�m living in another planet, they may think. Luckily, a friend of mine who is a B&S fan since I taped him two songs of IYFS took his guitar to the beach and he, me and another friend of mine (the twin brother of Lee Ranaldo, but 20-25 years younger) we sang to some B&S tunes. It was just a sillyness (is it correct ?) but we were happy for a while. The best was in the car trip. I played TWATTYBUS to my mother, and when "The boy with..." (the song) started, she said: "Is the girl singing ?" I bought "The green fields..." some hours ago and it�s a GREAT album. "Hangman in the shadow" is maybe my favourite. So, Stuart�s real name is Stuart Lee, isn�it ?. A question to my north neighbours: The girl who appears at the end of Yann Tiersen�s "Le quartier" video is Natacha Reigner, isn�t she ? I saw "la vie rev�e des anges" and I liked it very much. Finally, I recommend everybody to read the "Stolen kisses" zine from Matthew. It�s really nice. Adeu Jordiet. ================================================== Jordiet jordi-tv at olemail.com 0291942a01 at abonados.cplus.es ================================================== Tu E-Mail Gratis en http://www.olemail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NeilD at xxx.uk Tue Apr 6 14:49:36 1999 From: NeilD at xxx.uk (Neil Dewhurst) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:49:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: What on earth does Sri Lankan cricket have to do with t his list? Message-ID: <704AE307AB53D2119EE300805F7DF755111904@NCMSERVER> Hmmm, a somewhat puzzling title perhaps? Indeed, but I came across this on cricinfo, the fab site for cricket lovers like myself. SRI LANKA Premier Tournament (Day 3 of 3): Reid Avenue: Bloomfield 358 & 276, Sebastianites 240 & 41/2. Match drawn. Bloomfield won on first innings. Maitland Place: NCC 142 & 438/4, Galle 298. Match drawn. Galle won on first innings. Kurunegala: BRC 261 & 152/2, Kurunegala 231. Match drawn. BRC won on first innings. Have some of my sinister friends been doing a spot of moonlighting? Me, I'm eagerly awaiting the result of the match between Galle & Sebastianites. Have the band ever expressed an interest in cricket? If so, I'd put a team out to challenge them to a nice game of Indoor cricket, or possibly French cricket, or possibly no cricket at all. And finally, I feel I ought to apologise to Isobel and the others for not making it to the Gentle Waves gig on Sunday. Having bought a ticket, I was just too tired after a weekend with the family, and flaked out in my girlfriend's flat. Normally I wouldn't feel bad about that, but for some reason I can't help feeling a little bit guilty. I'll make it next time, I swear, and I'll buy the album in lieu of my appearance. Regards on this sunny day in central London. Neil +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From funkyseb at xxx.com Tue Apr 6 15:59:18 1999 From: funkyseb at xxx.com (Sebastian Brennan) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 99 14:59:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: This town is condemned Message-ID: Hiya Popkids! Have you missed me then? sotto voce: bloody sod yer then. Still, it's nice to see the list in such a state of rosy cheeked bounciness, though I hope its new found fame doesn't go to its head. There's nothing worse than someone getting a whiff of celebrity, and then acting like an arrogant bore... (counts to three...) I've just shot a film you know! With Uri Geller, Lulu, Stephen Fry and other famous types! As the miserable inmates of 'Days like these' might say, "It'll never get better than this!" I got to wear some fabtastic Chris Geddes jeans, and a big sheepskin jacket, and we all grooved/minced about in an authentic, seventies, crushed bollocked manner. I expect you all down the pictures when it comes out, to say how good I am. ;-) The only downside in all this cinematic fabness was that I had to stay in Sheffield. Ho. Hum. On the first day, I went looking for the City Centre. It took me a rather a long time to realise that there wasn't one. Those krrrazy sixties architects! Welcome to Sheffield, their brave new world of piss soaked walkways and spalling concrete youth centres! They say that industry's on the decline in South Yorkshire, but I could see one big yellow growth industry chomping its way through the city, excreting car parks and mounds of rubble from its grubby backside. When it comes to erasing a city's past with JCBs it seems the good burghers of sex city just can't get enough. Crunch crunch! Eat up that history! Replace it with out of town shoping malls and hipster unfriendly motorways... I slid away on a tram built with an air of european loans, to see where all the people had gone; off to Meadowhall. I've never seen a city being taken squarely up the arse before. It's not a pretty sight. Sheffield does tricks. Ex steel workers dress up as Ronald McDonald. Children scream for green cards and happy meals. America grunts and gurns on top, while Sheffield lies back and doesn't think of England. But one thing did strike me. Despite living in the worst town planning accident since the US Air Force remodelled Hiroshima High Street, the people of Sheffield are still 5 million times friendlier, and more pleasant than Londoners. And (ahah! there is a point!) so are Glaswegians, and Scousers, and Geordies....and everyone. And significantly, not only do people get nicer, but music gets better the further you move away from the M25 (Menswear....Mogwai) Why is that? Mind you, by my own argument, Thurso should be music capital of the UK, when in fact, it is the epicentre of the fish slapping community, where hairy men and women with VW combivans gather to make music using only their inner thighs and the bounty of God's deep salty waters. So I'll shut up now. Apple pie girl, Janey, why didn't you come to the picnic? I know Camden Tube's full of nutters, but we're all sweeties, honestly! At my first picnic, I sat on Primrose Hill for a bit, until I decided that the other sinisterines were'nt going to eat me, and then went and stared at them until someone had to say hello to me. I can recommend that strategy very highly. Damn. I'd have loved some apple pie :-) I haven't thought of an ending for this post. Bye bye hipsters, Uncletravellingseb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Tue Apr 6 17:21:13 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:21:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Pointing it in the wrong direction Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22599F3D@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Hello to Mrs Murdoch and her brood of sensitive types, Did anyone see the documentary on the Bay City Rollers the other night? A cautionary tale for us all... The Guardian described the Lady Shaves as "Enjoyable" this morning, commenting on how the backing band were as dour as "Campbell's labelmates Belle and Sebastian" (not sic - I can't be arsed to copy it verbatim, I'm afraid). On balance, sounds about right - a fair bit better than I thought they'd be, but then maybe I've got far too little faith. Still can't quite see Belle's voice as being "steely", though it's miles better than on The Gate (small mercies, etc.). Onto the picnic, then - certain people's lack of awareness of Sunday licensing laws made it a shade, erm, briefer than it may have been otherwise, but the Spread Eagle would have been disappointed if it had been anything else. The real shame was that no-one brought a football, especially as Shelley put in an appearance, guaranteeing the kind of welcome Ronaldo gets in Rio if she'd ever got onto the football pitch. Next time, pleeeeze, or I'll wobble my bottom lip at you... I also ended up with five packets of crisps in my bag and Pringles in my pocket. Greedy bastard. Steady Mike, you look grrreat! in the Select piccie - and Jennifer P-B, is that you banging the xylophone? Cheeky...I'm not quite sure how nice it is to be part of an officially recognised phenomenon, and I wonder what the effect on the list will be, but I did get a fair old glow of pride, so I'm not going to think too much about whether there are any negative implications. Except that anyone who comes up with any crap about "old fans being better than new fans" needs a swift rap on the knuckles with one of those heavy wooden rulers that the Duke no doubt has on his desk in Tiverton. No beer 'til Bowlie, Markxxx p.s. my spellchecker thingy has an entry for Pringles. Bless :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From giita at xxx.com Tue Apr 6 18:53:47 1999 From: giita at xxx.com (Aileen Hammond) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 10:53:47 PDT Subject: Sinister: oh some more tears.. Message-ID: <19990406175348.5923.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello my dear sinisiters! Once again I am crying for you help.. A good friend of mine, Gyda was promised (by me) a ticket + chalet to the Bowlie fest, but I had already promised someone else a ticket and had forgotten about it until recently..It is really unfortunate as she will get free plane tickets and her twin sister already has a ticket..Oh god I feel so guilty! It�s all my fault:( So PLEASE if anyone has a spare ticket could you contact her at : Gyda - valtyr at mmedia.is This is the sad message she left at the Festival message Board... Hello my friend! I have a terrible story to tell you. (Yes, I admit that I�m trying to let you feel sorry for me) I had been promised a ticket but suddenly after I had been flying around with a happysmile on my face for a few days and move the date of my cello-test, I got the terrible news that I had lost it. I have been pretty miserable since but I hope I�ll get my joy back if someone would bee so great to sell me a ticket. I�m very friendly and open-minded. my sister is going and we�ll be traveling from Iceland. gyda Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From giita at xxx.com Tue Apr 6 18:53:40 1999 From: giita at xxx.com (Aileen Hammond) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 10:53:40 PDT Subject: Sinister: oh soe more tears.. Message-ID: <19990406175341.58935.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello my dear sinisiters! Once again I am crying for you help.. A good friend of mine, Gyda was promised (by me) a ticket + chalet to the Bowlie fest, but I had already promised someone else a ticket and had forgotten about it until recently..It is really unfortunate as she will get free plane tickets and her twin sister already has a ticket..Oh god I feel so guilty! It�s all my fault:( So PLEASE if anyone has a spare ticket could you contact her at : Gyda - valtyr at mmedia.is This is the sad message she left at the Festival message Board... Hello my friend! I have a terrible story to tell you. (Yes, I admit that I�m trying to let you feel sorry for me) I had been promised a ticket but suddenly after I had been flying around with a happysmile on my face for a few days and move the date of my cello-test, I got the terrible news that I had lost it. I have been pretty miserable since but I hope I�ll get my joy back if someone would bee so great to sell me a ticket. I�m very friendly and open-minded. my sister is going and we�ll be traveling from Iceland. gyda Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eliam at xxx.edu Tue Apr 6 19:21:28 1999 From: eliam at xxx.edu (Marie Elia) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 99 14:21:28 -0400 Subject: Sinister: wearing upsidedown badges.... Message-ID: <199904061814.OAA12822@pellns.alleg.edu> hello, you sinister lot, when i went to the london looper gig, i had strategically placed an upside down b&s badge on the collar of my jacket. when i arrived at the improv theatre, however, i was confronted with all these hipsters and generally cooler-than-me kids, and i suddenly felt very self concious. so i furtively removed the badge and stowed it in my pocket... i looked for other badges, though! however, yes -- they are too small and it was too dark and all the kids (myself included) were sitting cross-legged on the floor... so i sympathize with janeyapplecake who arrived at the camden tube stop (which i found overwhelming in and of itself) only to slink away shyly... i would probably have done the same. i still mourn the fact that i got my american self all the way to london, my week coinciding with the looper gig, and i missed a sinister gathering as a result of no email! grrrr... that's it kids -- random ramblings. xoxo, marie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cbtun1 at xxx.au Wed Apr 7 04:45:52 1999 From: cbtun1 at xxx.au (Chris Tunnock) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 14:45:52 +1100 Subject: Sinister: B&S... a NATO solution Message-ID: Dear enlightened ones, A memo to Slobodan Milosevic and NATO, play a litle IYFS, instead of wreaking havoc on innocent souls. Pray for the Albanians, and innocent Serbs. N.B. I realise this is not a public forum for political statements, yet this international flavour of good feeling may be capitalised upon under humanitarian grounds. (I am not religious) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iles at xxx.uk Wed Apr 7 11:54:30 1999 From: iles at xxx.uk (Mark Iles) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:54:30 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Broadcast In-Reply-To: <199904031134.EAA19528@turtle.esosoft.net> Message-ID: >Ininformed wannabe pop critic: So, what's your favourite band? > >Me: Belle & Sebastian > >Ininformed wannabe pop critic: Who? I haven't heard of them so they must be >crap. > >How should I respond to this? Won't he have got bored and wandered off by now? Someone asked a few digests ago about Broadcast. The last I heard they have a new album coming out fairly soon (in the next few months) and they'll be doing a very brief tour before Bowlie, visiting Sheffield, Tunbridge Wells and Birmingham (their home town). In case anyone doesn't know what they sound like, they're a kind of cross between Portishead and Stereolab. Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ Mark Iles, Tel: +44 (0113) 2065042 Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Fax: +44 (0113) 2340183 Genetic Epidemiology Laboratory, Ashley Wing, Email: iles at boreas.leeds.icnet.uk St James's University Hospital, Beckett Street, Leeds, LS9 7TF U.K. ____________________________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MctaggartR at xxx.com Wed Apr 7 12:00:39 1999 From: MctaggartR at xxx.com (Mctaggart, Robert) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:00:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bergen on the ridiculous Message-ID: Hello I know this type of shameless plugging is deeply frowned upon, but this is just a quick note to tell our Glaswegian friends that those lovable Vikings the Kings of Convenience are playing at Borders Bookshop tomorrow (8/4/99) at 7 o'clock. They're my neighbours, but I wouldn't mention them if I didn't think that they were fun for all the family - at least if the family in question likes accoustic strumming, vocal harmonising, Nick Drake tinged loveliness, that is. Can someone tell us how many keys per chalet there will be at Bowlie? That is all. Love tag x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eculb at xxx.uk Wed Apr 7 12:09:58 1999 From: eculb at xxx.uk (JaMeS) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:09:58 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Broadcast Message-ID: yeah, you're all lucky bastards who are going to Bowlie, i hate you all.....no i dont :) im just jealous. anyone want to sell me an incredibly cheap ticket? ha, thought not.. as for Broadcast, i love that Booklovers song, i went to Fopp and saw the album for 6.99 so i bought it, one of those foolish impulse buys. 3 months later i havent listened to any other song on the album...does anyone know if its any good? i hate Fopp, they have so many cheap CDs in there i have to physically restrain myself from going in there now, i've spent so much in there... hmmm, and this is annoying i have to connect to my uni server to mail sinister as ive only just joined on my home pc, so i cant mail from there, since the 'babies' rule came in. and finally, yay!, i just got my photos from the gentle weavils gig back this morning, ahhh they're just lovely. i'll share them all with you as soon as i can put them on my site, probably 2 or 3 weeks i expect... JaMeS :) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Hall/7789 reply to : eculb at btinternet.com until 13th april reply to : eculb at csv.warwick.ac.uk after! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From I95PJG at xxx.uk Wed Apr 7 12:25:36 1999 From: I95PJG at xxx.uk (PAUL J GARDINER) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:25:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: you're nicked Message-ID: <000601be80e9$5c043ef0$77ae3cc1@is2735.tay.ac.uk> I just had a weird experience I must share. A policeman just stopped me in the street and asked me if i wanted to take part in an id parade on sunday. How guilty must i look? I refused because i am working but i was secretly scared that i would be picked out and sent to jail for a crime i dont think i committed. later dundee paul. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From L.Kerr at xxx.uk Wed Apr 7 13:06:54 1999 From: L.Kerr at xxx.uk (L. Kerr) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:06:54 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Broadcast Message-ID: jAmeS said.. >hmmm, and this is annoying i have to connect to my uni server to mail >sinister as ive only just joined on my home pc, so i cant mail from >there,since the 'babies' rule came in. James - if you contact Honey, then you can skip the nursey if you are already on the list. I think it says this somewhere in the list rules or soemthing. Linda +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From T.Lilja at xxx.uk Wed Apr 7 14:10:47 1999 From: T.Lilja at xxx.uk (T.Lilja at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:10:47 +0000 Subject: Sinister: gentle Waves Message-ID: <19990407120836.25500.qmail@amalthea.salford.ac.uk> Hi y'all! Yeasterday i bought th gentle waves record and rushed home (as soon as I had stopped for a cup uf coffee of course) and listened to it and my first thought after hearing isobelles first whispers was "ohh my god it's Phoebe from friends" but after listening to the record a few times now I quite enjoy it. But i still think weathershow is the best song and i was hoping for more of that sort. I guess i should have bought a Stereolab record instead if thats what I wanted. /Toby +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Apr 7 13:06:34 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:06:34 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Let's Play Squeezy Bottles! Message-ID: <01be80ef$14dfc160$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Shag Tag wrote: >My trip to Glasgow was jolly good fun, I had my usual record spree, >and we all went to Julia's house where Chris Lynyrd informed us that >one in twenty people in the world had been bedded by Gene Simmons. >That means 50 people on this list alone. I've counted eight that I >know of - the Duke, Leslie-Jo, Peter Miller, Roddd, Kamp Kommandant >Kitchen, JJ, Stuart Gardiner and Andreas. Matt Haines has had him >too. And Steve Lowe. Can we have a Simmons Shag register like we >did with "Tigermilk"? I've never been shagged by Gene Simmons, although he did once subject me to a frighteningly thorough rimmer. It took the dog ages to lick all the face paint off my buttocks, too. I was a laughing stock. I had been wondering how the GYMSLIPPED WEEWILLIEWINKIES were going to cope with the shortness of their LP in a live environment, but I must admit that a cowbell-propelled instrumental jam session wasn't very high on my list of possibilities. Who conned Isobel into singing that dirty, dirty, dirty song "Kinky Love" then? Was it Murdoch? Actually, I'm beginning to think that Isobel's sensitive waif image is a huge pop googly, designed by EVIL JEEPSTER to sell millions of records. Like a proper fan, I've been working my way through Isobel's reading list on the GINSENG WARRIORS website. First stop: DELTA OF VENUS by Anais Nin. After a staggeringly pompous introduction, things perk up a bit: "...and for the delight of her admirers who sat around her, she was rouging her sex with her lipstick..." the story goes from strength to strength until: "he fetched a stool and placed it near the bed. He kneeled on it and he put his penis to his son's mouth. The son awakened choking and struck at him." No, it's not about Gene Simmons. I can't believe that dear sweet Isobel is encouraging her fans to read books with the word "penis" in them. "Dinkle", yes, but "penis"?! I don't know what the world is coming to. Speaking of which, thanks for that message about the Balkan conflict, it was terribly moving. Reminded me a bit of when they used "Achy Breaky Heart" to try and get the Davidians to abandon their Waco stronghold in Waco, Texas. If music be the food of love.... Yesterday I went to the pictures and it was a film and it was Shakespeare in Love and I saw Gwyneth Plantpot's nipples. First one nipple, then the other, and so on, until eventually both nipples were on screen at the same time. I don't why there was such a fuss about Judi Dench only being on screen for eight minutes, the nipples were on for even less. I thought it was a marvellously clear example of cultural fragmentation as we hurtle towards the next millennium, where breasts will be considered as individual commodities rather than traditional pears. I mean pairs. I apologise if anyone found that offensive or sexist. It's Isobel's fault for making me read that book. I thought that Select article was a load of Jeepster approved bollocks on the whole. But I enjoyed it, especially the bit about Isobel clones wearing hair slides and pinafores. I hope I make it back to Blighty before that fashion dies out. I remeber with great affection the halcyon days of Bjork clones. I also enjoyed Duke's bit as well, and I bet the schoolkids did too. Anne of Ward Gables, I'm terribly sorry, but I've lost your address. I know it's Gibson Street, because it's impossible to forget such a R!O!C!K! street, named after the famous Fender Gibson guitar. But I don't know what number. Apologies to anyone who has written to me over the past few days, I'm a bit behind schedule with my term paper and my tutor will be down on me like a ton of Simmons if I don't get revising soon for my exams, and I won't be able to fly over to the UK from JFK and check out the London club scene and some cool record stores. Sister Disco Get Your Free Private +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nickdastoor at xxx.com Wed Apr 7 14:07:56 1999 From: nickdastoor at xxx.com (Nick Dastoor) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 06:07:56 PDT Subject: Sinister: Police: Corruption Message-ID: <19990407130757.973.qmail@hotmail.com> >How guilty must i look? >I refused because i am working but i was secretly scared that i would >be picked out and sent to jail for a crime i dont think i committed. No no this can't happen jAmEs. The police are very fair like that. But they're not so fair on the real suspects. When I was at school they asked for BLOND volunteers for an ID parade but somehow I ended up going too. It was just as well for the path of justice, as the boy they were holding had BROWN hair too. But they didn't pick me. Or the suspect. He wore a jumper with a teddy bear motif, which I suppose put them off the scent. Nowadays he'd probably opt for a Gentle Waves badge. Perhaps the Jeepster merchandise machine might like to market themseleves more aggressively to the juvenile offenders corner of the market. David could impress them with tales of a youth misspent robbing National Express tickets and promoting Menswear. Nich ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Wed Apr 7 14:26:04 1999 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 05:26:04 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Mental Mavis Message-ID: Hello folks Oh yes, Mental Mavis and her Gentle Wavies were mighty fine on Sunday, and punctual too. Whatever next? If Mavis had been displaying signs of nerves at Leeds she had evidently overcome them by Sunday. The record is a teeny bit disappointing in comparison - more Jonathon Cohen than Leonard Cohen :) And whilst you were searching the Guardian yesterday for that review you may have missed evidence that our legendary smut is leaking out of the confines of the list and into the big bad world outside. http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,3848790,00.html Kevan The Fat Slug *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From funkyseb at xxx.com Wed Apr 7 17:56:21 1999 From: funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 99 17:56:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: bumpooshitwilly Message-ID: Afternoon, grooveriders. Isn't it annoying when you're reading the list at work and a window pops up with something filthy and dirty in the subject line? And as for that gangwanking nonsense in the footer...well, it's impossible to explain away really. How many hipsters have found themselves in the dole queue as a result of sinister, I wonder... :-) Anyway, on to the important stuff. I own a piece of scratchy vinyl at home called "moog partytime", rammed to the run out groove with bleepy bloppy party melodies. Well, imagine a follow up disc entitled "moog oh dear my cat's just died and I keep finding myself bursting into unexplainable silent tears on public transport", and that's Broadcast's "Work and No Work LP. It's gorgeous, if rather melancholy, and I await Bowlie with bated tear ducts. Right! Attention everybody! With the lovely honey's permission (of course), I'd like to launch a new strand, "Lovely things that have happened to me on buses". I'm realy taken with the idea of writing a short film about a boy who falls in love with girls he sees on the bus, and so really, I just want to test the waters. Am I the only saddo who does this? Have any listees actually had the courage to talk to someone they've met on the bus? Or even gone out with them? Answers on an e-mail please:-) funkyseb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ihamilt at xxx.com Wed Apr 7 18:03:26 1999 From: Ihamilt at xxx.com (Ihamilt at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:03:26 EDT Subject: Sinister: Re: Bus romance Message-ID: im afraid the closest i got to bus romance was being propositioned by a mad dog drinking 14 yr old on the Saltcoats to Irvine bus a few years back. The next week i was threated with violence by a squad of 12 yr old thugs wielding ice skates because i objected to them kicking some poor buggers teeth in. Ive seldom got on one since. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nickdastoor at xxx.com Wed Apr 7 18:48:14 1999 From: nickdastoor at xxx.com (Nick Dastoor) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 10:48:14 PDT Subject: Sinister: Avoiding litigation Message-ID: <19990407174814.52205.qmail@hotmail.com> Didn't some guy get arrested recently for looking funny at a woman he fancied on a train? Puts a whole different slant on those 'A hidden glance, a forgotten smile' Dateline posters that I find so alluring. Watch out kids. Perhaps everyone who wouldn't object to a bit of public transport flirtation should wear a badge upside down or something, to save confusion. Incidentally, Sebastian, I can't let that Sheffield slagging pass without comment. I love Sheffield. Would anyone else like to start a rival "Lovely things that have happened to me in Sheffield" thread. And I'm not even going to ask for Honey's permission, because I know that since little jon.g's demise, no one will join in anyway. Love to you all, Nicholas ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Wed Apr 7 20:53:02 1999 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:53:02 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: Momus "Slender Sherbert" for trade/sale In-Reply-To: <001a01be7f81$b72c6000$ada5a8c1@tlktffgb> Message-ID: In my search for the back-catalogue of Momus, I've got an extra copy of the Slender Sherbert CD from 1995. It contains re-recorded versions of 14 of his songs from '85-'89. Some turned out better, some worse, all still listenable. Before I try to return the extra, I figured I'd ask here in case anyone else has been trying to locate one. I'll sell for about US$17 (which splits the difference in price of the 2 copies). As far as trades go, just name something. There's too many things I'd be interested in to try to make a list. Although God Machine's "Purity" ("Home") EP on Eve would be near the top of that list, along with some Momus singles / This Must Stop / Stop This, Prefab Sprout Demos EP CDS. Thank you. That is all! (Please write me and not the list.) --Mark PS If you contacted me about the proposed Chicago meetup, you'll hear back from me within the next few days. I'm waiting for people who don't read email as quickly as some of us. __ Burning Rome : SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 > Distributed by Dutch East India Trading, Com Four, and Carrot Top < < http://www.xnet.com/~mkolmar/BurningRome > < MP3 & RealAudio tracks > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alix.campbell at xxx.net Wed Apr 7 21:06:52 1999 From: alix.campbell at xxx.net (Alix Campbell) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:06:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: sinister minister in da house Message-ID: <003801be8134$e18f4ce0$e440a8c2@big-comp> cha cha cha broadcast are quite lovely. only quite though. the singer is a bit, um, unappealing, i know, i saw her in select once. but the album is pleasant, and nice and short, so you can't get bored. which you conceivably could. which is why they are only quite lovely. i got mauled by a swan today. well, i exaggerate, but only because it's more fun that way. there i was eating ma sammich, and a huge great swan comes along, wanting some. so i gives it some, and it bites my finger, then eyes the rest of ma sammich. so, greatly afeared, i fling said sammich towards the river, in hope that swan will piss off. which it doesn't. so i slowly run away. that's like in slo-motion. have any of you been mauled by birds recently? i think i shall return to my teapot. alix.x ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ the universe contains everything that exists, the planets, their moons, the stars, star clusters, the galaxies and groups of galaxies and all the space and all the gas between them. as far as scientists know there is only one universe and there is nothing which is not part of it. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Wed Apr 7 22:04:17 1999 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake E. Hamilton) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:04:17 -0400 Subject: Sinister: On a bus stop... Message-ID: <008b01be813a$335446c0$ee941198@wfu.edu> Dear "The sun is shining but not for me" diary-- I would just like to announce that I got Tigermilk *and* The Black Sessions in the mail yesterday. Thusly, they've made their dent in my tape player and I can't seem to hit "stop" no matter how badly I pull my wrists. By the way, I enjoy the Tigermilk version of The State I Am In much more than the Dog On Wheels version. There's something about the nostalgic pop and hiss of vinyl that just creates the mood. I got a flat tire on Saturday night when I was home, and since no handy garage was open on this great Easter Sunday, I was stranded on a resort island for another day, missing classes. *sigh* Does anyone on this list read Cavafy? I am very much in a Cavafy mood presently. I'm having a pre-midlife crisis where all I can think about is how it was so great to be a kid. I think I'm going to pretend I'm 16 again. Hey, I look like it anyways. Has anyone found a cure for shyness yet? I think it's the worse disease in the world. Well I'm off to my RA meeting (yes I am going to be a Resident Adviser next year, imagine that, me a role model) and then I shall return to a night of baseball on the radio and The Kids Are Alright on the tube. The world's using me as a punching bag... love to you all, blake ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ "I am not Jesus, though I have the same initials." - Jarvis Cocker +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Wed Apr 7 22:49:54 1999 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:49:54 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: Positively tumescent In-Reply-To: <19990406092630.6902.rocketmail@send106.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Michael Jones wrote: > Mark Kolmar spoke thus: > > >If Isobel's album shows any evidence that she may have visited a vocal > >coach, please let me know. I'll settle for any new-found ability to > >project from the diaphragm. > > Which only serves to remind me of an old Steve Martin joke. Project, > though ? Surely untrained voices can be the most affecting; I mean, > we don't want Isobel turning into Tina Turner, do we ? No, no, and surely no. Not like Tina Turner, Pat Benatar, or even world-renowned singer Jessye Norman. I don't wish to suggest she ought to sing with Bel Canto technique. What I am suggesting, however, is the ability to match pitch is useful, regardless of individual style. Ability to project one's voice in the "proper" manner permits a greater degree of control. That control, in turn, can mean a stronger and more affecting performance -- even, perhaps especially, if one is singing softly. If you project properly, people will be able to hear you even if you are singing softly. Nick Drake, for example, knew how to sing. But he had an outstanding folk voice, i.e. dry, no vibrato. Also I would not want her to have to cancel gigs, become hoarse, or develop nodes. If she can play cello (a fretless instrument), then it is clearly within her ability to sing on pitch. --Mark __ Burning Rome : SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 > Distributed by Dutch East India Trading, Com Four, and Carrot Top < < http://www.xnet.com/~mkolmar/BurningRome > < MP3 & RealAudio tracks > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Wed Apr 7 22:59:35 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:59:35 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: The Cat That Keeps Lists Message-ID: Some of you are acquainted with Splat, who I live with; some of you have even had a physical encounter. She's very nice, she's got a white fluffy tummy, perky little ears, and she brings in birds from the garden occasionally. Anyway, Splat is very interested in who's going to the Bowlie Weekender Cambers Sands Hastings TweeStock thing, and would like all the dear precious Sinistereens who are going to go, to mail her and let her know. This way, you can see who else is going, tell them what you look like and where you're coming from, and tell everyone what sandwich fillings you're planning to take. Andrew Dean of Sinister Central actually whispered to Splat that this would be a good idea today, and then promptly whizzed off in his mobile Big Hairy Cave to L.A., leaving Splat with all the work. Anyway, Splat's page is at http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/bowlie.html To add your own entry to the list, send a mail to Splat at splat at majordomo.net, with "Bowlie" in the Subject (you MUST have "Bowlie" in the subject or she will swish her tail and ignore it). If you want to add anything more than just your name, just put some text in your message too and it'll appear on the above page - tell people where you're coming from for instance, or any distinguishing features for identification purposes should the worst happen. All the text in your message will appear so please cut out signatures etc. Remember this isn't a discussion board and anyone who sends more than one mail in will have all their text removed from their entries and replaced with a lonely hearts entry for next month's article in Select. Something else Splat reminds you of on her page: remember when you get there, if you wanted to be spotted by other Sinistereens, and aren't afraid of black magic, wear a B&S badge upside-down; if you don't have one, make one; if you can't make one, steal one. Also remember Jeepster are setting up a (paper) noticeboard at the festival itself, and if you want to meet other Sinister types, then why not scribble "Sinister" in big letters by your name? Because you're bloomin' scared, that's why. honey & splat xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From simon.taylor at xxx.uk Tue Apr 6 11:26:05 1999 From: simon.taylor at xxx.uk (Taylor, Simon) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:26:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Probably already been said Message-ID: <29767F4698C5D211883D0008C7A47309305708@UKBIREXC03> but... (i only get the digest version) That song called "kinky love" (supposedly written just before the show) is actually a cover version. It was a very minor hit (ie No.71) for The Pale Saints in something like 1991. The Gentle Waves version is quite a close copy of the original, though to be honest I'll still always prefer PS's version. Not knowing much about The Pale Saints I don't know if they actually covered it themselves since it is written by D. Ellington (no note Duke!). Anyway... off to buy the TGW album now seeing as the show was so good. Cheerio SIMON Email Disclaimer The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JPQH at xxx.com Thu Apr 8 01:17:40 1999 From: JPQH at xxx.com (JPQH at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:17:40 EDT Subject: Sinister: Go-Betweens Message-ID: <615cac26.243d4fa4@aol.com> a while ago, someone (i think it was duke, but have checked the archives and unable to confirm it) wondered whether messrs. forster and mclennan might be playing around a bit in support of the soon to be released go-betweens retrospective. well they are - in london at least. the jazz caff in london's loverly camden town has them listed to play on 16-18 may. interestingly (if you care about these things, and you really should), the shows were originally listed as "forster and mclennan", but the more recent editions of time out have them listed as "the go-betweens". whether this indicates a miraculous full forster/mclennan/morrison/vickers (latter last seen playing dapper mod bass for a bored and boring lloyd cole in the usa some 7 or 8 yrs ago, with a transcendent but under-appreciated forster and mclennan in support) turnout, or a cynical vince power marketing ploy, i don't know. i suspect the latter, but whatever the case, i advise a strong sinister presence for each evening. age might be playing a cruel game with both of the formerly handsome devils (narrowing that already slim gap between forster/mclennan and russ abbott/grant mitchell) but they still tingle the spine and set the heart aflutter. happy to play past glories as well as recent stuff, they prove their status as the princes of poncey pop (star pupil -our struan) with effortless ease. you can stuff yer smiths - there is more poetry and grace in any two go-betweens songs ("draining the pool for you" and "cattle and cane" picked at random by my random song selector) than the entire morrisey/marr cannon. well, thats my view anyway in the meantime: - isn't the new jim o'rourke loverly? - whistler?!? - whats all that about then - can we really trust a band with bits of emf in it? - simon joyner? - did anyone notice the minnie ripperton song ("les fleurs") in the lead up to sunday's genteel warts gig (which my sister and her husband and i found charming)? - charles stepney - genius or what? see ya kingphilip +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Thu Apr 8 03:50:56 1999 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:50:56 -0400 Subject: Sinister: i love to eat the blue ones Message-ID: <000101be816b$44e38dc0$3d1e05d1@tinystar> hi listies, i'm quite impressed to be hearing this talk of broadcast around here. whoever it was that was lamenting the fact that the gentle waves didn't sound more like stereolab, just buy 'work and non work' and kiss it better. the whole album is better than the april issue of wallpaper*, which happens to feature lovely toronto in a couple places. wrote my one and only midterm today, it was english and all about the way in which media will lead to the death of literature. personally, i'd like to believe that the two can coexist, but that would likely be ascribing far too much intelligence to the general populus. but not any of you sweets, for i believe it was on this list that someone recommended that i read 'the secret history' by donna tartt - a lovely, lovely book, i was flipping through it again tonight and was reminded of the 'through the looking glass' qualities it has. and i've heard that the gorgeous large format paperback is no longer in print, so if you see it it should be snatched up. and to round out my recommendations this evening to an even three (and ensure that i cover all forms of media), i must mention that i've updated my website (for those of you that complained that the colours were hard to read, i've lightened the background and...oh poo, if you don't notice then too bad. so many improvements for you lot). you can witness my life here: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Styx/3733 feel free to send donations out of appreciation for my lovely contribution to the world of media. 'sall for now. i'm tired and i fear i didn't really have anything more to say than shameless self promotion. the usual, really. love, jessicaxo * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * someone had spied on us, i suppose, as we sat beside the canal and ate the sandwiches, drinking not even orangeade or coca-cola but hot milk out of a thermos. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * t i n y s t a r @ w o r l d y . c o m (it's lovely being a girl) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From monroej at xxx.com Thu Apr 8 06:43:47 1999 From: monroej at xxx.com (John F. Monroe) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:43:47 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Go-Betweens US tour dates Message-ID: <00c101be8182$c64cb500$ef85cfa9@monroej.execpc> I just saw that someone here posted about a London date - well here are a slew of US ones. mmm Milwaukee! Maybe if I met them I could take them for frozen custard or a bratwurst, ya think? Show them the drive in which inspired the one on the Happy Days tv show, take them on a brewery tour, yah, lots o' fun could be had, eh.:) ( doing my best sout' side milwaukee accent there ). and Star - you know what to enjoy ( beings with a 'b', ends in a 'g') enough said! here are those tour dates >If you are interested in seeing the Grant and Rob in the US, check out the >recently updated Beggars page. Current US dates are listed as follows: > > June > 8 NEW YORK - Mercury Lounge > 10 CLEVELAND, OH - Grog Shop > 11 DETROIT, MI - 7th House > 12 CHICAGO, IL - Fleadh Fesatival > 13 MADISON, WI - O'Cayz > 14 MINNEAPOLIS, MN - 400 bar > 15 MILWAUKEE, WI - Shank Hill > 17 TORONTO, Canada - Ted's > wrecking bar > 18 NORTHAMPTON, MA - Iron Horse > 19 BOSTON, MA - Fleadh Festival > 20 HOBOKEN, NJ - Maxwells > 21 ALBANY, NY - Valentines > 22 PROVIDENCE, RI - Mel cafe > 23 PHILADELPHIA, PA - Khyber > 24 WASHINGTON, DC - 9.30 club > 25 NEW YORK - Fleadh Festival > 29 SEATTLE, WA - Crocodile cafe > 30 SAN FRANCISCO, CA - Great > american > JULY > 01 LOS ANGELES, CA - Troubadour > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Thu Apr 8 05:15:28 1999 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick * Sandcastle Records) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 00:15:28 -0400 Subject: Sinister: the Gingko Leaves Message-ID: <370C2D60.EF05438B@ohiou.edu> Hm... So has anyone in the states bought the album? If so, where did you get it? Magnetic Megan and I saw it in Other Music when I was visiting her, but neither of us wanted to cough up $5.50 for a song with lyrics sung in French when the English version was on the album. Oh, and if anyone knows where you can still find "Lover Plays the Bass," by Saint Etienne, please write Megan or I, it seems everywhere is sold out of it. Broadcast... well they do sound like Stereolab, but only if Stereolab went back in time and took their keyboards with them. The drums on the album are definately not from this decade, but oh-so-nice. I've always liked the way drums sounded "way back when," and few people seem to be able to imitate that that I've heard. In totally unrelated news, this not-so-new Quigley album is amazingly good. I didn't think it so hot on first listen, but it grew on me like moss. Well...that's a bit deceptive, as I usually bathe enough that moss doesn't get much of an...erm...mosshold I suppose. Moss don't have feet or toes, to my knowledge. So anyway, I'd recommend it to anyone with ears. Yes, well that's that. /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick/Sandcastle Records <<->> bp224996 at ohiou.edu \ / Sandcastle Records Homepage: ICQ#5056758 | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | -Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Thu Apr 8 11:44:25 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:44:25 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: psst Message-ID: *huddles into corner* "News International" (I kid you not) have finally replied to my email and told me I need to pay a fee for publishing their material in electronic form, which, by jingo, I'm not going to, so the Sunday Times article will be removed from the press archive tomorrow. So if you want a look do it quick. How exciting, I feel like a sexy commando. Shhhh! Nursery - to make it clear - if you don't appear in the list of people in the nursery (see the WWW page) and you're subscribed to the list from the account you're posting from, you can post - it's that simple. For anyone who was in the nursery before The Great March to majordomo.net, I repeat - you were taken out of it in a whacking great big amnesty. For anyone who's out of the nursery and moves email accounts - mail me and let me know and you'll get whisked out of the nursery forthwith. And for anyone IN the nursery - thank you for sticking around and not storming off in a grump, you're very patient and your reward in heaven will be great. How come so many people are looking at Splat's Bowlie Book but only a few of you are filling it in? Cheats! Send Splat (splat at majordomo.net) an email this instant (Subject: Bowlie), and there's no shame in sending a blank one, just to say you're going. Just because some people like me like to witter their head off inanely for hours, it doesn't mean you have to. All Splat wants to know is who's going, so we can maybe all meet in a secret passage underground, infiltrate the main stage from below, remove the underpants of every single performer WITHOUT THEM EVEN NOTICING, and then make a killing on Ebay auctioning them off. That's the plan anyway. Honey, and Splat in absentia xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Tjonrr at xxx.com Thu Apr 8 12:11:36 1999 From: Tjonrr at xxx.com (Tjonrr at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:11:36 EDT Subject: Sinister: years of therapy etc Message-ID: <273d6bb.243de8e8@aol.com> >have any of you been mauled by birds recently? when i was four a goose in cannonhill park in birmingham bit my hand and stole my biscuit. it was a very traumatic experience and id rather not talk about it. suffice to say i cant go anywhere near geese now. or birmingham actually, but thats nothing to do with the above event. as for romances on buses, ill use this rather tenuous link to plug my new musical venture. one of the ten songs ive got has a refrain that goes "and the girl on the bus was as pretty as her...". its really quite moving. ive been writing a lot of distinctly lovelorn lyrics recently. must be the april showers. im going to do these songs acoustic, all i need now is a four track studio. and an acoustic guitar. and someone who can play an acoustic guitar... look just forget it. you people. nah, theyre all shameless hefner ripoffs anyway. im concentrating on my other project anyway...BATFINK!!! thats the spunkypunky band im in with my brother. he didnt like the name so i had to write a song called restless natives (theme from batfink) to stop him changing it. cant he see, it works on so many levels... doesnt matter cause ill probably find out theres alreadly some world famous band with that name and ill have to change it anyway. im just waiting for the rest of the band to learn to play then well be top of the hit parade before you know it. i dont need to learn how to play myself, im an artist. im thinking of changing my name to johnny mumble... from tjohn "and i wonder where you and him will be when you see me on the cover of the NME after sellout tours and a string of hits when im snorting cocaine off a supermodels tits" arab strap- gilded +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Thu Apr 8 13:17:00 1999 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Fluffy Sarah) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:17:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: stupendous man saves the day!!! Message-ID: Hiya kids!! I've just been listening to the hurdy-gurdy Black Sessions on tape (so called because my tape goes "hurdy-gurdy groober-booger most mysterious band in britain hurdy-gurdy" etc) and I must comment on that jolly strange poupee de cire whatever. I even searched the archives cos I didn't pay attention first time round cheers cheers. I found out that the song was originally sun by some french nonce called France Gall (how come theres no woman called England Jones?) but it was written by the surely over-blimmingwell-hyped Serge Gainsbourgh person. Tell me, in the original towards the end of the song, does France SPIT out the "gar_CON!!!!" bit like Issy-Wissy does? Brilliant moment that is. Juan Fransisco: >mmm Milwaukee! Maybe if I met them I could take them for frozen custard or a >bratwurst, ya think? I am SO jealous, I want to eat this scary sounding "frozen custard" hey nonny and as for bratwursts well what more can i say than magical no? Theres a woman who comes into our pub, and orders an apple pie with cold custard every sunday. is frozen custard really just cold custard? Thats lalalalalaamerrrkiiaa for you I supose. ENJOY THE BOG :) Just an odd point, who has had those mini bottle of milk things?? I've seen them in the supermarkt and wandered what they are... Aren't News International bastards? We have to buy for the right to use a picture? Pish, to quote belle and sebastians very own Stud. Stu(art)d(avid) ho ho funny...I'll get me coat. Aawwww but I love Stevie. Just for Wrong Girl. Even though he wore a girlie purple-y shirt. I know that because annoyingly pretty but extremely gormless girl at my college wears one the same. She tries to dress 60's but actually dresses in the style known as blind fashion. As in you don't look what you're putting on YOU FOOL. And yes go and tell Splat if you're going to Bowlie. And answer my question. Which you will find at http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/bowlie.html so there. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Sarah +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnk at xxx.gr Thu Apr 8 14:23:59 1999 From: johnk at xxx.gr (John Koliopanos) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:23:59 +0300 Subject: Sinister: stupendous man saves the day!!! References: Message-ID: <370CADEF.C8A1D823@flash.gr> Hiya Star! > I even searched the archives cos I didn't pay attention first time round > cheers cheers. I found out that the song was originally sun by some > french nonce called France Gall (how come theres no woman called England > Jones?) but it was written by the surely over-blimmingwell-hyped Serge > Gainsbourgh person. Tell me, in the original towards the end of the > song, does France SPIT out the "gar_CON!!!!" bit like Issy-Wissy does? > Brilliant moment that is. No, she doesn't actually. In my humble opinion, Isobel's version has more pathos than France Gall's. Mind you, that does not nessecarily mean that it is better. I really love the way France sounded like a big big girl (eeew, emilia quote there), even though she was only a teenager. And also, in a great many songs, the juxtaposition between high-pitched and low-key vocals. The finest example of that being Nous Ne Sommes Pas Des Anges. Ahhhh, she's such a wonder. Isobel too. I think. John x ps: by the way, France is not her real name. D'you want to know what that is? Erm, well, Isabelle! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sleeka_sounds at xxx.com Thu Apr 8 14:54:19 1999 From: sleeka_sounds at xxx.com (Sleeka Sounds) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 06:54:19 PDT Subject: Sinister: Saturday Glasgow Picinic Message-ID: <19990408135420.66562.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello! I thought for those who are coming to the picinic on Saturday I would give some handy directions on how to get to the meet up point (1 O'clock at the fountain in Kelvingrove park). Follow these as if they were instructions. If anyone has a better plan, don't worry about my feelings): 1. Go to Glasgow 2. Get the Underground to Kelvinbridge. If you can't find an underground station, just ask someone in a shop or something. People in shops are usually nice in Glasgow, even if they sound cross and look scary. In fact the scarier the person looks, the nicer they are. 3. At Kelvinbridge Underground leave by the main exit i.e. go up the big escalator to Great Western Road. 4. Turn right and walk smartly to the traffic lights. Do not make eye contact with anyone. 5. Turn right again and you will now be on Park Road. You should be able to see Kelvingrove park from there. There, down at the bottom, do you see? Down there, across the road! 6. Walk down towards the park. You will pass a "world of video" shop on your right hand side, where you can buy rude films at smashing bargain prices. Across the road is a grimy record shop, "the lost chord" in which you can buy second hand wank mags, which you may or may not be able to prise open. I wouldn't know about that. 7. Walk towards the park, and carefully cross Gibson street until you are in the park. There's a smashing beanie baby shop on Gibson street, if you're into that sort of thing. I am! They've got Britannia the bear and everything, but you've got to buy ten others before they sell you that. 8. Now, if you follow the main path that you are on all the way round you will eventually see the fountain, which is pretty big. 9. If you're a girl, I know it's taboo, but remember to pack your sanitary care and bits. I hope that helps. Mail me if you need further assistance, unless of course it's Saturday and you're lost. Because I won't be in. Right, I'll do a proper letter now. I bought that album yesterday, it's much better than I thought it would be. Which is saying nothing, cos it's still gash. I like the song about the tree, and the one which the lady says "caterpillar" in, because I like caterpillars. There's been a lot of hype about trees the last couple of decades, but I still reckon they're alright. But, you know, I'm rather excited that Stuart's middle name is 'Lee'. Because now we can call him 'Stuart Lee Roth', 'Stuart Lee Travis' and 'Murdoch Lee Majors'. Only behind his back, mind. Chris Leonard Nimoy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Thu Apr 8 15:31:15 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:31:15 EDT Subject: Sinister: sinister minister in da house Message-ID: <828427f4.243e17b3@aol.com> In a message dated 4/7/99 4:30:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, alix.campbell at virgin.net writes: << so i slowly run away. that's like in slo-motion. have any of you been mauled by birds recently? >> I wasn't assaulted recently.. but once while riding through one of those zoos where you see animals in a vaguely natural setting (except that there's a road through their habitat and chain link fencing here and there.) my family's Volkswagon bug was set upon by curious emus. they were walking up and down it's hood and peering in at us. I shrieked because they had bulbous eyes, and my father drove them away by brandishing a silver cap pistol in a menacing fashion. true story! dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ourharbour at xxx.com Thu Apr 8 16:05:32 1999 From: ourharbour at xxx.com (YT...George) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: satudays PICNIC...erm... Message-ID: <19990408150532.23101.rocketmail@web203.mail.yahoo.com> Yeah, ok... Me is pretty new to this mailing list.... so can some human helps me... what exactly is going on on saturday in glas. at the park?..... I got nothing really to do..so like i need something to do. thanky, R.George xxxxxx _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From L.Kerr at xxx.uk Thu Apr 8 16:34:26 1999 From: L.Kerr at xxx.uk (L. Kerr) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:34:26 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Saturday Glasgow Picnic - update Message-ID: Forwarded message from Mistopher Christopher regarding the Saturday Glasgow picnic. In answer to Jygsaw, who posed the frightening question "What do you do at a picnic", the answer is, err, whatever. Last time, we sat around and ate, and then had a wee walk round the hothouses when it started to rain, and then went to the pub. And it was nice. It took about half an hour to actually talk to each other of course, except John Johnstone, who had cunningly had a get-out clause (train to catch) which allowed him to talk to everyone in a charming manner, knowing that he could leave if we all were weird. Which we are not. Not even Stuart Lee, who everyone politely ignored until Chris stole his hat in the pub. And it was nice. Anyway.. ---------------------------------- Fwd message from Sleeka Sounds / Chris Leonard (they are the same) Whoops! What I've done there is give directions to the fountain, goodness knows how I managed to get that idea into my head. Now, it should be the bandstand in Kelvingrove park, not the fountain. The bandstand, you hear. You see why we leave this sort of thing to Keith? Sorry about the delay with this. As soon as I realised I had made a blunder, hotmail broke, and I had no email. Here is a new number 8: 8. Now, if you follow the main path that you are on all the way round you will eventually see the fountain, which is pretty big. But you don't want to go that far - you want to cross the river at the most convient bridge in the park and walk down the right hand side of the park until you see the bandstand. It's pretty big. Just ask someone scary where it is. S o r r y I feel really stupid. I don't think I'll go now, you all hate me because I wear glasses. I might just have my own picinic at the fountain. I think I'll go and eat worms. Rear Admiral Leonard ------------------------------------------------ Linda x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Thu Apr 8 18:04:41 1999 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Johnston) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:04:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Saturday Glasgow Picnic - update Message-ID: Indeed I did have a cunning breaking-the-ice-polite-conversationwise-are-you-mental excuse to mingle at the Glasgow picnic and everybody proved to be very nice so that it was with great reluctance that I left to get a train, having luckily been in town for my best friend's wedding the day before. At least I got to offer Stuart a cheesy stick.... Which inspired the unreleased verse of Fox in the Snow.. "Boy on the streets Handing out eats You've got twiglets, you've got pop You had a bottle but you let it drop Now it's all fizzy..." I won't be there this time but as at Bowlie I'll be with you in spirit. It'll be great fun and I commend it to the list. xx John > -----Original Message----- > From: L. Kerr [SMTP:L.Kerr at xxx.uk] > Sent: 08 April 1999 16:34 > To: sinister at Majordomo.net > Subject: Sinister: Saturday Glasgow Picnic - update > > > Forwarded message from Mistopher Christopher regarding the Saturday > Glasgow picnic. In answer to Jygsaw, who posed the frightening question > "What do you do at a picnic", the answer is, err, whatever. Last time, we > sat around and ate, and then had a wee walk round the hothouses when it > started to rain, and then went to the pub. And it was nice. It took about > half an hour to actually talk to each other of course, except John > Johnstone, who had cunningly had a get-out clause (train to catch) which > allowed him to talk to everyone in a charming manner, knowing that he > could leave if we all were weird. Which we are not. Not even Stuart Lee, > who everyone politely ignored until Chris stole his hat in the pub. And > it was nice. > > Anyway.. > ---------------------------------- > Fwd message from Sleeka Sounds / Chris Leonard (they are the same) > > > Whoops! What I've done there is give directions to the fountain, > goodness knows how I managed to get that idea into my head. Now, it > should be the bandstand in Kelvingrove park, not the fountain. The > bandstand, you hear. You see why we leave this sort of thing to > Keith? Sorry about the delay with this. As soon as I realised I had > made a blunder, hotmail broke, and I had no email. > > Here is a new number 8: > > 8. Now, if you follow the main path that you are on all the way > round you will eventually see the fountain, which is pretty big. But > you don't want to go that far - you want to cross the river at the > most convient bridge in the park and walk down the right hand side of > the park until you see the bandstand. It's pretty big. Just ask > someone scary where it is. > > > S o r r y > > I feel really stupid. I don't think I'll go now, you all hate me > because I wear glasses. I might just have my own picinic at the > fountain. I think I'll go and eat worms. > > > Rear Admiral Leonard > > ------------------------------------------------ > > Linda > x > > > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ > +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Thu Apr 8 22:34:51 1999 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:34:51 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: I saw them first... In-Reply-To: <19990407174814.52205.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Why hello there my pretties, I'm glad you've all been good while I've been away. Although to be honest most of you probably didn't realise I'd gone anywhere, since my name seems to have cropped up all over the place in other people's postings while I've been gone. What with the lovely Genevieve fantasising about me wearing her prom dress, and my secret night of passion with Gene Simmons being revealed to the world, I thought I'd better post something before anyone lets on that I'm actually a 3 foot tall transvestite from Uzbekistan... (Damn, I must remember to delete that last bit before I press 'send'...) And good things do happen in Sheffield, like going to see the mighty Sheffield Wednesday beat Charlton Athletic at Christmas. If I put in a quick apology to Honey for mentioning f**t*ll on the list, will I get away without a spanked bottom? And do I want to? Anyway, I thought you could cope with reading another report on the first ever Gentle Ben concert, in Leeds last Friday. I know about half the audience has already posted about it, but since that's only 3 people, I'm sure you can manage. It was indeed a good night out, even if I didn't meet any of the Sinister family there. Isobel was saying how nervous she was, which apparently was responsible for them missing one song out from the setlist. The musical highlights for me were the rocky French one near the start (don't know the titles, sorry!), and the made-up-on-the-spot piece for cowbell and band. The between song banter mainly came from the backing musicians, who weren't as nervous, given that when B&S played there last year there were 3 times as many people in the audience. Highlights included a 2 minute break between songs while Mick tried to find somewhere to dangle his instrument (no, it was a triangle. Enough of your dirty thoughts), and Isobel saying "My mother will kill me when she hears this one!" before starting the next song with the lines "Kinky love, I need you kinky love" and half the males in the audience fainting as a result. Oh, and Stevie's an excellent harmonica player, which I hadn't realised before. And Stuart M could be seen at one point sitting at the side looking dotingly at the centre of the stage... They did their best to recreate the authentic B&S gig experience though; long gaps between songs, copious instrument changes, and an unfeasibly long soundcheck that meant doors opened 45 minutes late. I can't give you the setlist, because I haven't bought the Genuflecting Warthogs album yet; I don't care who it's by, I refuse to pay £15 in my local costly disc shop for 31 minutes of music. What little audience was there was mostly respectfully quiet, apart from the previously mentioned drunk girl in one of the boxes (think of the two old grumpy blokes in the Muppet Show, and you've got a pretty accurate picture of the scene), and a load of people down the front who kept trying to have conversations with Isobel, and throwing her bags of chocolates and things. Personally I was sitting by myself on the fifth row from the front. And it was a complete coincidence that the two best-looking girls I could see when I came in were sitting on the fourth row from the front. Of course it would be easy to pick faults in most B&S performances, but after 7 gigs I pretty much know what to expect now. You just have to translate what Jeepster say about the gigs into what they actually mean. For example: They say; "A gig" They mean; 14 songs, plus 30 minutes shuffling about inbetween. They say; "We've been trying to improve our live performances" They mean; 14 songs, plus 20 minutes shuffling about inbetween. They say; "Doors open at 1.30pm" They mean; Get there at 1.30pm and we'll leave you standing outside Manchester Town Hall in the snow, while we give you free icecreams. They say; "Doors open at 7.30" They mean; And pigs might fly. They say; "Films will be shown from 8.15" They mean; And Slobodan Milosevic has just been appointed the United Nations human rights ambassador. They say; "The Gentle Waves plus two short films" They mean; We can't afford a support band, so we'll make you watch a French woman riding round on a bicycle without wearing any shoes for quarter of an hour instead. They say; "The Cardiff gig has been postponed" They mean; We didn't sell any tickets for it, and we're so embarrassed about over-estimating the number of people who would want to go that we didn't want to move it to a smaller venue. They say; "Let's have a picnic on Easter Sunday before the London Gentle Waves gig" They mean; It's not sold out, so maybe if we organise a meet-up beforehand at short notice, people will be more likely to come (especially from out of London) because they won't be on their own. But of course, you'd have to be very cynical to think that that was what they meant, and it would be very churlish to do so. We love you really, Jeepster... Everybody still up for a picnic in London on Bank Holiday Monday May 3? You never know, one of these days it might even appear on the meet-ups web page if I (or anyone else) ever gets round to it! Big Stu o o o, ,o, ,o o o> <|> /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ Hey! Macarena... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From foxinthesnow_ at xxx.com Fri Apr 9 03:03:59 1999 From: foxinthesnow_ at xxx.com (Fox in the snow) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 19:03:59 PDT Subject: Sinister: Montreal Picnic Message-ID: <19990409020359.94302.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello Sinisterees I never post but after mailing with some sinisteree( hello Nadia) and meeting one ( hello Michelle) I decided it would be fun if ppl around Montreal could meet up there.. Well as I am from Quebec city I'd need a bit of others help to know where to meet in Montreal and all that. So everyone interested should email me and tell me where they are and all those stuff so we can start working on something!! I,ll be waiting for news of you all cheers, Karolyne foxinthesnow_ at hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Fri Apr 9 11:28:05 1999 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Fluffy Sarah) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:28:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Coco GODAMN POPS!!! Message-ID: Sinister... the time has come for you to do some good. Well, do some good for my blimming sanity. go to http://www.cocovote.com/ and vote for YOUR RIGHT for Coco Pops to STILL be called COCO POPS dammit. And you can also get a suprise from Cocos friends! And if you're using my copy of netscape it will crash just when you click on that same link. Oh well. BUT VOTE!!! I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Sarah +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cbtun1 at xxx.au Fri Apr 9 10:44:14 1999 From: cbtun1 at xxx.au (Chris Tunnock) Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 20:44:14 +1100 Subject: Sinister: Trembling Blue Stars... much better Message-ID: Dear Listees I have some horrible news to convey... Jason Adolf of Hatboro, PA, in the US gave IYFS one star in a Amizon customer review... "ooooh its not that beautiful" "Trendy Jehovah's Witnessess listen to this band. It is lo-fi music with the potential to be better, but in reality misses the mark. Try Trembling Blue Stars. Much better." I hope no one has mentioned this before because this seems strangely like deja vu... It does not matter since this is a total WANK, pardon my language... I always associated lo-fi with Will Oldham... I do not even know the Trembling Blue Stars... (but can someone tell me what they sound like please) If anyone lives in PA - Pennsylvania or wherever PA is, please do us all a favour and vicariously revisit my juvenile days by egging Adolf. Bye Chris +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Peter.Ramsdale at xxx.com Fri Apr 9 12:35:10 1999 From: Peter.Ramsdale at xxx.com (Pete Ramsdale) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:35:10 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Birds, Buses and Dave the Moon Man Message-ID: <199904091135.MAA13274@ln4p1013pos.ldn.swissbank.com> As a glorious addition to two of the current trains of thought (don't know whether 'trains' is the right word for this list - maybe they're just less your InterCity type and more your average built-in-the-early-sixties somewhat shabby rolling stock), I am pleased to announce that I got mauled by a bird on a bus once. All I did was go up and ask her if she sat on that particular bus often, and she bit my hand and pinched my biscuit. I have since purchased another digestive and had a couple of fingers sewn back on, but it really isn't the same. What's the world coming to, eh? In a more musical context, I find myself compelled to rapturously plug the Looper album. It's definitely the best thing I have bought this side of Come On Die Young. Which was the best thing I bought this side of The Boy With The Arab Strap, and so on and so forth, ad infinitum, tedium or nauseam, whichever comes first. In particular, I do feel quite a large amount of empathy with Dave the Moon Man - not only for the amount of time we both seem to spend lying on lawns, pissed, with the dew soaking through our respective trousers, but also because I too seem to have the rather perverse habit of arguing against what I actually believe in, hoping beyond hope that somebody far more intelligent with much more self-confidence will come along and shoot me down, thus proving what I actually thought to be true in the first place. Erm..... discuss. Oh yeah, and the music's good too. Also bought the Gentle Waves album the other day. Haven't had chance to listen to it yet since my flat has recently been unceremoniously invaded by my parents, who just seem to spend their time sitting around complaining if I play music and gleefully watching me suffer because I can't smoke. I love them really, but they're bloody hard work at times. But, I'm sure that an equally badly worded opinion on the GW album is in the pipeline. Probably shortly after their departure on Sunday. So, keep your pointers weightily poised over that delete button. Well, that's it for now - must go and do some work. Goddammit life's hard. Hasta luego, amigos, lol p xx. ----------------------------||------------------------------- Life is full of regrets, and I've had a few, as Frank Sinatra once sang, before hiccuping loudly and falling over sideways. Pete Ramsdale - peter.ramsdale at wdr.com Phone: 0171 568 3836 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Snowinsumr at xxx.com Fri Apr 9 14:49:25 1999 From: Snowinsumr at xxx.com (Snowinsumr at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:49:25 EDT Subject: Sinister: "...as if things felt anything..." Message-ID: dear "meganelise neglected her mailing list and wants to get back into the swing of things" diary... twenty minutes until i have to go and work at the library...it's a thirty minute drive...barely dressed...unfed...lazy book-shelfer meganelise is not in the mood to work today... my kitten is ready to sleep on my tummy and is rather cranky that i am leaving...i feel guilty leaving him...it's a no win situation...unless i quit my job...which is very appealing right now... hot cocoa and munching a bagel...what is more lovely on a rainy morning? not much...i would think... i am so happy that everyone will get to meet everyone at bowlie...i am not going...but it just makes me feel good to know that all of the little shy listees will get to meet other shy listees...the boy that likes to hold my hand very gently is going and i am sure that he will come back with many lovely stories of things...and i cannot wait to hear... "the sadness of things"...a song by momus...from the very beginning of the song i cried...through it...and when it was over i still cried...so very beautiful...if only everyone wrote songs like this...so much passion and insight... :::sigh::: ...shy hugs... meganelise +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eliam at xxx.edu Fri Apr 9 15:03:24 1999 From: eliam at xxx.edu (Marie Elia) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 99 10:03:24 -0400 Subject: Sinister: SPIN city, catholic-school-girls, and geese. Message-ID: <199904091356.JAA08242@pellns.alleg.edu> "and the rain comes rattling..." good [rainy] morning, ye of the sinister persuasion, (i think i used "ye" incorrectly, and my HistoryOfTheEnglishLanguage professor would probably have my head for it, but...) i was reading SPIN last night -- a hi-gloss, sell-out publication second in shamelessness only to RollingStone -- and there was a review of Blur's new album. now, i'm not going to comment on blur because, in all honesty, i think all i ever heard was "song 2," but in the review, the author mentioned that the band were tackling lost love or something, and then proceeded to mention a slew of other bands who are partial to this, including Belle&Sebastian. ... i may not have gotten the words right, and SPIN will probably sue me, but i thought i'd mention it... on the topic of school uniforms: i went to catholic school for 8 years, and although it was not boarding school or all-girls, i DID have to wear a plaid skirt and woolen knee socks. and it was Damn Hot come june 23, let me tell you! i've never been mauled by birds, but my mum was once chased home from school (in 4th grade or something) by geese. in freakin' new jersey suburbia! dave the moon man is my current favorite looper song -- precious. take care, xoxo, marie ps. kisskiss! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eculb at xxx.uk Fri Apr 9 15:45:54 1999 From: eculb at xxx.uk (JaMeS) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:45:54 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Sllloooow day Message-ID: hallo Sinisters, mmm its friday, but im feeling rather distracted. bus stories bus stories, i cant really think of any, apart from the scandalous fact that in warwick the bus company doesnt give change! ooh i dont know how they can get away with that, i think its really rather cheeky to say the least. privatisation? pah. its certainly a case of 'boo to the business world' if you ask me. bird story? erm, once me and my friend were surrounded and attacked by a gaggle of geese at the park looking for food (not us, the geese), i think they were under-fed, or perhaps they were just greedy bastards... 'slater JaMeS :) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Hall/7789 reply to : eculb at btinternet.com until 13th april reply to : eculb at csv.warwick.ac.uk after +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucy.munro at xxx.uk Fri Apr 9 17:29:53 1999 From: lucy.munro at xxx.uk (Lucy Munro) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:29:53 +0100 (British Summer Time) Subject: Sinister: trembling blue stars and bird story Message-ID: Chris quoted: > "ooooh its not that beautiful" "Trendy Jehovah's Witnessess listen to this band. It is lo-fi music with the potential to be better, but in reality misses the mark. Try Trembling Blue Stars. Much better." < I like the bit about B&S being "not that beautiful" - "well, they're beautiful, but not *that* beautiful". And the idea of trendy Jehovah's Witnesses listening to them. What does a non-trendy Jehovah's Witness listen to then? The Housemartins? Chris also asked what Trembling Blue Stars sound like. Well, kind of sparse and fragile, sometimes a little bit dancey, sometimes a little bit epic. Frequently wonderful, but not very much like B&S. And not particularly lo-fi, but then I wouldn't have said that B&S were lo-fi either. Lo-fi always makes me think of scratchy people with out of tune guitars. Trembling Blue Stars are on Shinkansen though, so presumably they're boycotted because Matt from Shinkansen was facetious about Jeepster on his website... A cousin of mine used to have a running battle with a duck when she was a child. Apparantly the duck used to creep up behind her and bite her on the bottom. In retaliation my cousin used to pick the duck up, deposit it somewhere unpleasant (usually the dustbin), and walk off rubbing her hands and saying, under her breath, "serves himself, serves himself..." I think the duck was probably eaten in the end, it being the '50s and all. I've not shagged Gene Simmons yet. But a friend of mine went to review them the other week, so I have my suspicions. Their new CD has a really scary 3-D, picture changes when you tilt it type of thing on the cover; showing Gene with his tongue out (and that's a *lot* of tongue) if I remember correctly. Lucy (can't make it to Bowlie and trying not to care - is that wicked?) ---------------------- Lucy Munro lucy.munro at kcl.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Fri Apr 9 15:58:04 1999 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:58:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Lovely Sunny Afternoon Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB6901AC1F@PARK_EX> Following a number of slightly sad posts about rainy mornings I thought I'd make you feel a little better with my tales from a rather balmy Cheltenham afternoon. I've only got about half an hour til the weekend and **even better than that** a friend of mine has offered me her Bowlie ticket at a knock down price!!! I'm sure I can't afford it but what the hell! I can't wait to meet you lot. I ordered my badges (for the upside down wearing of) from 'the other place' yesterday and I never realised how easy this 'net shopping was (a bit too bloody easy I feel, esp. after being tempted by the 'hello kitty' site (girlfriend's b'day soon (honest))). On the subject of animal attacks, I was ferociously mauled (well, slightly nibbled, if the truth be known) by a goat when I was seven or eight and I still can't go near the bloody things (now a rather sad 24). Right, enough of this waffle, I'm off to the pub. I wonder if it's warm enough to sit outside? xoxo Steve ---------------------------------------------- carsmilesteve at geocities.com visit our website http://fast.to/carsmile and get a !F!R!E!E! Demo tape 'So tell me what have you got? So tell me have I lost the plot?' +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TFertig3 at xxx.com Fri Apr 9 21:43:42 1999 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:43:42 EDT Subject: Sinister: I've got a bigger tigger Message-ID: <384453b7.243fc07e@aol.com> Hello everyone, Has anyone mentioned yet that Tigermilk's release date in the US is June 8? I'm sorry if someone has, I haven't been reading the posts thoroughly lately because I've got so much work, but I figured there'd be a big deal about it if it was already said, so I thought it was my duty to inform you all. Phew! Anyway I hope everyone is feeling happy...Today I looked outside for the first time in weeks and I was a bit happy, and a bit sad, to discover Spring! Happy because the birds were chirping and the flowers were blooming, and sad because I've got so much homework that I can't enjoy it! Stupified and still a little sick, Tami +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From painbirds at xxx.com Sat Apr 10 00:35:35 1999 From: painbirds at xxx.com (Craig-Lee Thompson) Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 16:35:35 PDT Subject: Sinister: Rock dwelling Melbournites... Message-ID: <19990409233535.62720.qmail@hotmail.com> Due to London and the U.S getting a guernsey in terms of 'Go-betweens' tour dates, I considered it only fitting someone from Australia (the birthplace of the 'Go-Betweens' after all) post some gigs. So, for those living under a rock in Melbourne, here are the tour dates: The Continental; 'Tue 4th May' The Continental; 'Wed 5th May' Despite Robert Forster breaking his promise last time playing in Melbourne, when stating that he would be back with a full band to play solo material, I have forgiven and purchased my tickets for the 5/5 show. Should be fantastic.... Craig-Lee... P.s: Is a gig still a gig at 'The Continental' or does it metamorphose into a show??? Will I be seeing a gig or a show??? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Sat Apr 10 02:59:33 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 21:59:33 EDT Subject: Sinister: Saturday Glasgow Picnic - update Message-ID: In a message dated 4/8/99 11:38:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, L.Kerr at hw.ac.uk writes: << In answer to Jygsaw, who posed the frightening question "What do you do at a picnic", the answer is, err, whatever. >> actually, this wasn't me. I would LIKE to be the person who asks sensible questions that are kindly answered. But I tend to be the guy who rambles instead. very sorry dave* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Sat Apr 10 10:20:11 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 11:20:11 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Big Youth Fights Against Capitalism Message-ID: <01be8333$561f1180$LocalHost@itjfvkli> One cannot help but feel that there would be no need for promotional picnics had no one betrayed the sacred mandate handed to them by the very heathen masses who are least fooled by the thin veil of illusory Brit-tastic power and vulgar oppulence on display, thanks to Babylon's earthly emissaries, pushers of pop...we trust in pop when the flood begins, the Lord shall roar and then... Whoops! Sorry about that. I've been reading about Pol Pot and listening to Mister Yabby You at the same time. I applaud Big Stu's decisionn to resist the temptation of paying full price for a mini album, despite the rather attractive "featuring players from Belle and Sebastian" sticker. Players? That's reggae talk, isn't it? I like the sleeve notes best. I wonder if the old dog likes it? Too few records are dedicated to animals. Today is the big day. The Glasgow picnic. I enjoyed Christopher's directions very much, took me right back. I didn't know The Lost Chord had branched out. Used nuddy mags used to be the preserve of the Barras, requiring a Sunday slog at least once a month to stock up. I bet it'll be a fantastic picnic. Who's sponsoring it? I wonder if it'll be better than the London one? Of course, we don't want to start up any pointless rivalries again, like last year, but I reckon it's a foregone conclusion. And I agree with whoever said we won't tolerate any of this old fans are better than new fans business. Oh no. I like the Select article much more with photos and memorabilia. All those Johnny Come Latelies in their TWATTYBUS t-shirts, and only one person in the vastly superior yellow and green bus design. Pah! Kids today! No wonder Duke prefers appreciating the music as an individual. After the excitement of the Roddcam, I thought it would be all downhill. But nothing, no nothing, can compare to the thrills on offer at Splat's Going to Bowlie page. I'm a regular visitor. Apparently there's going to be merchandise available too! I hope Splat takes note and sets up a stall selling her own widdle to make the chalets a real home from home. lots of love, Sister Disco of the Immaculate Contraption +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Sat Apr 10 12:17:36 1999 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen - jeepster) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:17:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: just a quickie... Message-ID: <370F3350.F1B39D75@jeepster.co.uk> very busy at the mo', trying to organise bowlie things and generally sort out the new office now we've moved in (it's a mess, boxes everywhere). but because of the workload and the backlog of other bits that i have to do, well, i'm unsubbing from all the lists so that i can free up a small bit of my time. hopefully i'll sub again about a week or so after the bowlie, but in the meantime, if anyone has any questions or anything that need answering, mail them to me at mailto:david at jeepster.co.uk as i won't see them if they're on the list. cheers david PS: we'll see you a lot of you at the bowlie, we'll be in our usual place, the merchandise stand, oh, and we'll have a bowlie t-shirt (all profits to charity) and some new badges! +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk NEW ADDRESS: PO BOX 14153, LONDON SW11 4XU, UK to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Sun Apr 11 00:01:43 1999 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:01:43 GMT Subject: Sinister: Can't stop the music Message-ID: <370fd153.17690366@post.demon.co.uk> Hello You Lot. This top ten series on Channel 4 is great. Tonight it was disco, presented by Huggy Bear (the Starsky and Hutch one, not the band). Nice to see Kraftwerk smiling and finding out that Roger Daltrey hated disco. Was it him who was heard to mutter "watch your backs" as the Village People were announced? Mayve Keith knows. Mick wrote of the St Winifred's school choir: >but neither of us wanted to cough up $5.50 for a song with lyrics sung >in French when the English version was on the album. I remember an interview with Lisa-Marie Presley and Michael Jackson where they were asked if they'd like to live abroad. Lisa-Marie said, "Abroad? We went there once, and it was nice, but it was nice to come home". For some reason Mick's mail made me think of this. Chris Tunnock wrote: >A memo to Slobodan Milosevic and NATO, >play a litle IYFS, instead of wreaking havoc on innocent souls. It takes a great deal to offend me, but Chris, you managed it. I tried to convince myself that this was a misguided joke, but it isn't, is it? Yugoslavia has a tradition of beautiful, haunting folk music, which cannot fail to stir the soul, yet hasn't patched up 600 years of mistrust between races, so your suggestion that somehow a bunch of Westerners singing of the lives and loves of the relatively priviliged is naive at best, and phenomenally patronising, at worst. We had our own Manchester picnic last night. Well, JJ, Risso, Warrander John and Emma came round and we drank and talked and listened to records so it was a kind of picnic. It was also a kind of musical truth or dare as JJ admitted to owning a Stars on 45 LP, John confessed to wearing Bay City Rollers tartan trousers as a youth, and everyone laughed at my Britney Spears record. Risso and Emma unsportingly confessed nothing, I'm worried that they're going to be using what they heard as evidence against us, the slippery tricksters. Got to go, Wumpkinny on Line 2. Love tag xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From moomin1998 at xxx.com Sun Apr 11 11:46:47 1999 From: moomin1998 at xxx.com (Jonas Svensson) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 12:46:47 +0200 Subject: Sinister: a truly impossible thing Message-ID: <001301be8408$9a055c80$63b5dac2@anderssv> hi everybody I was listening to the excellent looper album and feeling sorry for dave the moonman. I tried to find some information that the moonlanding really took place to make me feel better. I didn´t find any. http://www.xs4all.nl/~dannyvs/exmoonhoax.htm please prove me and dave wrong. -jonas ps. have fun at bowlie, you lucky ones. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From louise at xxx.uk Sun Apr 11 21:20:16 1999 From: louise at xxx.uk (Louise) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 13:20:16 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Camber's cool! Message-ID: <00bf01be8458$b7420be0$332c883e@computer> Hello List Last week anticipation got the better of us and me and andrew thought we'd check out camber sands. it is soooo cool, a huge big bright blue place. we couldn't get into the site but we could peek in through the car park and it looks great. the chalets don't look nearly as bad as the photos on the website and there's little grass playing areas in front of each group of chalets. it really is only 5 minutes from the beach - and even better there's loads of amusements opposite including 'mini vegas'! cool! it only takes about an hour and half from brighton and if you go by car you'll also get to see the awesome 'long man' on the way. I think everyone going by car should put b&s records in their windows so we can all spot each other on the way. by the way, has anyone got the new girlfrendo album? i just bought and it's fantastic! anyway, see you at the Bowlie, Louise +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Sun Apr 11 18:57:14 1999 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Fluffy Sarah) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:57:14 +0100 Subject: Sinister: tequilla! it makes me happy! Message-ID: <0coVQAA6JOE3EwCu@elsato97.demon.co.uk> Hi kids do you know DO YOU KNOW that there is only one weekend left till Camber? Oh my lord! I'm so excited! And I just can't hide it! I'm about to lose control and hey might even eat a Crunchie. Cos hey its that Friday Feeling. I've been listening to my free cd that came with THE WIRE. And I was sadly surprised to see The Wire has sold out.. some noises actually formed TUNES!! Blimey. what does "llevar un balón en el maletero" mean? I looked it up found something along the lines of "to take a ball in the saddle-maker"... which doesn't sound that sensible to me. Is it some spanish idiom? Like "best of british" isn't talking about beef or the sice (?! bsessive boo radleys fans haw haw i'll get me goat ) girls it actually means "bad luck" or something like that? Theres a woman who wrote a book which explains every slang term in English for sale in Waterstones somewhere. Its still not my favourite book, that will always be the marvellous gay phrasebook for europe. I wish I could remember what they said the Spanish for "sorry, I do not like fisting" is. Um, not because I get in those situations oh GAWD I'll just give up NOW shall I... I'd prefer a nice cup of tea frankly. Oooh! Whenever I think of Bowlie a shuder of JOY runs through me! But then, oh no! Its The Fear! I only have one more weekend to lose three stone in!! And to get a new face! Oh my LORD this is awful. Can't anyone postpone Bowlie while I lose weight so I can look stunningly iressitible? Bowlie 2027 has a nice ring to it...CHIZ. Oh well! Bowlie should be so much FUN I don't care! David - even though you're not on Sinister anymore, doh! Anyone! Do they have CAFFREYS onsite? A certain person who doesn't post often has promised to buy me a pint of that beverage. Oh dear got to go now and put chips in the fryer YUM!! I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Sarah +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Sun Apr 11 19:50:07 1999 From: johnj at xxx.com (JJ) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:50:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Is he a yankee no he's a londoner Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990411195007.00797870@mail.u-net.com> I sent a mail similar to this one already to the list, but it never arrived and it hasn't made it's way to the archives..so here goes again: Taggrrt said: "We had our own Manchester picnic last night. Well, JJ, Risso, Warrander John and Emma came round and we drank and talked and listened to records so it was a kind of picnic. It was also a kind of musical truth or dare as JJ admitted to owning a Stars on 45 LP" This is true, I have the Beatles medley one and the Abba medley one. Steps were obviously totally unoriginal doing that Abba thing on the Brits, but where were StarSound? Nowhere. That's where. For those who bothered to turn up to the Mini Manc Picnic, Smiley Culture's other hit single was apparently 'Cockney Translation'. Oh, and to make those who were there chuckle, can I just say "T-shirt wanker". Sorry, private joke there. Louise 'Mad-4-It' said: "if you go by car you'll also get to see the awesome 'long man' on the way" Yes, anyone lucky enough to be travelling down to Camber in my car will be able to see the awesome 'long man', if I'm in the mood that is. Fnarr. JJ x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pbelinsk at xxx.net Sun Apr 11 21:08:30 1999 From: pbelinsk at xxx.net (Molly) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:08:30 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Miscellaneous In-Reply-To: <0coVQAA6JOE3EwCu@elsato97.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990411160830.007a4a60@northernway.net> This is what I have: >what does "llevar un balón en el maletero" mean? My spanish education consisted of two years from a teacher at a high school in a town ten miles away. We had it on the Interactive TV. There were eight TVs; 4 in the front and four in the back so we could see her and the other classrooms. Three cameras so she could see us and what we were doing. A fax machine for assignments, and hideous fluorescent lights that made one look green when on camera. If I were posed with this question in class, I would most likely duck down so she couldn't see me, crinkle paper in the microphones to fake technincal difficulties, and turn off the system 'til the end of class. And have an early lunch. >Theres a woman who wrote a book which explains every slang term in >English for sale in Waterstones somewhere. Its still not my favourite >book When i was about three I befriended an American slang dictionary and treated it as a neverending cookie, chewing on it constantly. It had chunks out of it and got all fanned out from my slobber. It was my favorite. I found it awhile ago and tasted it, but it lost something in its years of dormancy, I think. I'm not sure that I want to enter the fray, but... Chris T. wrote >>A memo to Slobodan Milosevic and NATO, >>play a litle IYFS, instead of wreaking havoc on innocent souls. Tag Wrote > your suggestion that somehow a bunch of >Westerners singing of the lives and loves of the relatively priviliged >is naive at best, and phenomenally patronising, at worst. Along with the rest of the world, I am at a loss for what to think about the future of Kosovo and area. It's scary and mind boggling to think of the suffering over there, much of it on behalf of our respective countries. And there isn't a plumb thing we can do, except to talk about it. I don't know how Chris meant it, but I like it, as a wistful sentiment that of if only it would just be that easy. and that's all she wrote molly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From turkout at xxx.net Sun Apr 11 21:26:30 1999 From: turkout at xxx.net (Turk) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:26:30 -0400 Subject: Sinister: bird maulings and british embassy Message-ID: I've never actually been 'mauled' by a bird, but each day as i leave the metro there seems to be an inordinate amount of pigeons in my way. they live in the arches of union station, and they have stopped scattering from my path....i now have to walk around them....and sometimes they actually dive bomb me....i think i'll start using a different metro to walk home from.... As for B&S content: after staying up all night for a friend of a friend's birthday party, i went the british embassy at 7:30 this morning to watch the FA cup semis and drink rolling rocks for $1....after the second game, someone tossed on TIJAMRS, before it was disheartenedly halted halfway through and replaced with gary glitter - figures.... to make up for my somewhat disappointing bird story, i'd like to make up for it by showing my support for the two beavers currently enthralling washington d.c. with their presence. due to nato's bombing campaign, little else is making the front page of the washington post - excpet for the two beavers campaign to build a dam in the tidal basin at the expense of our very world famous, beautiful and numerous cherry trees...washington d.c. is currently aligned into two camps - the pro bombing, anti beaver group, and the anti bombing pro beaver group....currently the park service is trying to trap the beavers well, must go sleep Turk ___________ "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure." - Mark Twain +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From s_daigle at xxx.com Mon Apr 12 00:46:04 1999 From: s_daigle at xxx.com (The Stoat) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 99 19:46:04 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Acronyms Message-ID: <199904112345.RAA10604@turtle.esosoft.net> >As for B&S content: [snip] >someone tossed on TIJAMRS, before it was disheartenedly halted halfway >through and replaced with gary glitter - figures.... Now, wait a minute. I can figure out most of the acronyms that are tossed about on this list, but for this one IMBTBINATBIJDGI. (I May Be Thick, But I Need A Translation Because I Just Don't Get It.) BTW, is the Gentle Waves album available in the US yet? Last time I checked cdnow.com it wasn't there. Go Beavers - andrew +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From travelling_light at xxx.com Mon Apr 12 03:03:53 1999 From: travelling_light at xxx.com (Kin Woo) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:03:53 PDT Subject: Sinister: Gentle Waves video and PLEA TO PHILIPPE!!! Message-ID: <19990412020353.49504.qmail@hotmail.com> hey hey Earthquakes! Just another B&S related posting about me seeing the Gentle Waves video on Beat UK (A Japanese/British show on cable that my friend taped for me:) It wasn't the whole song ("weathershow" is that it?) but most of it. Isobel looks just like she does in the first few promo pics of B&S- i.e. cute and adorable (she might hate me for saying that!). The song itself is very rockin' and quite infectious...Is that Stuart Murdoch I see playing guitar in the video??? anyhoo very nice indeed and a pleasant surprise. btw all those people who have not seen "Cruel Intentions" by now (and if it has already opened where you live) GO SEE IT!!! It is truly an excellent movie and is the wickedest movie you'll see all year. Have also seen "The Matrix" by now (filmed in Sydney!!! Just like the awesome "Dark City") which is one of the coolest and most inventive films I've EVER seen. Keanu and hooray "Models INC" alumni Carrie Ann Moss look dead cool and the film is so exciting and visually original that it's another must-see. On a more sombre note, this is a frantic call out to Philippe Garnier. Philippe I've written you more than six emails now and you have not replied to a single one of them. I know you're probably very busy (but hey so am I:)) but it doesn't take long to write a short email back to me. Please please please honour the terms of our agreement- I sent the tapes for you about SIX MONTHS ago and please if you could take some time and finally do the same, I'd be extremely grateful (and forgiving!:)) Please write back Philippe AND send the stuff!!! anyhoo seeya folks Kin Woo ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Tjonrr at xxx.com Mon Apr 12 10:41:44 1999 From: Tjonrr at xxx.com (Tjonrr at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 05:41:44 EDT Subject: Sinister: "if your auntie had balls,she'd be your uncle" Message-ID: <76dd0630.244319d8@aol.com> >currently the park service is trying to trap the beavers millions of punchlines running through my head... yeah but slang dictionaries, the book club sent me one by accident the other day, which me and Matt The Student felt obliged to peruse... it is without a doubt the smuttiest book i have seen since that one that bill drummond wrote. the amount of metaphors for masturbation frinstance. and ill never be able to watch snooker again after seeing what "if the reds blocking the pink, go for the brown" means... the most interesting part though was accidentally discovering what "lucky pierre" means. if you thought aidan moffat, after calling his proper band arab strap, had chose a fairly innocous name for his solo project, think again. its actually slang for the middle guy in a gay threesome. enduring image isnt it? from tjohn. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ailsa at xxx.com Mon Apr 12 12:16:30 1999 From: ailsa at xxx.com (Ailsa Ross) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 03:16:30 -0800 Subject: Sinister: She drinks a lager drink, she drinks a vodka drink... Message-ID: And several other drinks beside, as befits a picnic for those who are "not totally normal" (cheers, Select bloke!). Glasgow weather is officially rubbish, so after an hour of getting wet and me humiliating myself trying to jump over fences/crawl through bushes in an inappropriate skirt, we all retired off to the pub, where much fun was had by all. I spent much of the afternoon being humiliated on the pool table by Calumn (oi! minds out of the gutter please), backing bad horses in the national (though I did mention that we should have backed eventual winner Bobby Jo as that was half named after a Belle and Sebastian song - other candidates would have been Bells Life, and Fiddling the Facts in honour of our chums at the BPI), being most untwee by yelling at the telly during the rugby, listening to the Celtic v Dundee Utd game on my Walkman when people were trying to talk to me, and generally being a bit useless. Except when at the Monopoly machine which I won #4 out of, despite! ! the best efforts of Messrs Cook, Docherty and Shearer to tell me the wrong answers and Chris' assertion that I couldn't win any money out of it as he had won it all already. Then it was on to the Genial Weebles. I thought the films were immensely dull, well they were kind of amusing and cutesy, but I failed totally to find the meaning in the balloon one so I felt quite foolish and uneducated in the ways of French cinema. The Weebles were quite good though (this was the first time I had heard them as I was up at my parents for the week and Inverness' record shop isn't very good) I liked the one that sounded like "Sitting on Top of the World" by the Carpenters, and the cowbell one. I didn't like Stuart David's beard much though, and I wonder if someone could clarify whether Stu M's microphone was actually plugged in as he seemed to be singing backing vocals to no discernible effect. And is it just me, or is Richard turning into Angus Deayton? Just me? oh well :) After the gig, Mick Cooke offered me a Crunchie. I had to refuse as my mum told me never to take sweeties off strange men, and anyone who goes rushing off to get holiday brochures for Arran is strange in my book. He's still wearing the same shirt he had on at the Brits, you know. I have no idea what happened next as the inconvenient timing of the gig (two days before I get my grant cheque) and my frightening quiz machine addiction meant that I had no more money for beer, and I had to go home. But I had fun anyway and that's the main thing. For me, anyway. Anyone going to Salako on Saturday night? If so, someone suggest somewhere to meet up on the message board please (and preferably not somewhere where I am going to get rained on). Finally (and it really is the last thing I am going to say,as I have been wittering on rather a lot here to no apparent end) according to the paper Snow Patrol were in King Tuts last night? Did anyone see them and were they any good? I mean it, I'm going now. Ailsa xx *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pulpbot at xxx.com Mon Apr 12 03:33:22 1999 From: Pulpbot at xxx.com (Pulpbot at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:33:22 EDT Subject: Sinister: we're not a band that has a farm, we're a farm that has a band Message-ID: <68a7bead.2442b572@aol.com> Like-minded, What with tha B&S fest in England happening shortly, the flourishing picnic scene, general list camraderie, et al, it seems silly that the idea of a commune, composed of this list, has not taken hold. Perhaps a few baby steps could be taken at the Camber thing: impregnating ladies, growing beards (not you, ladies!), wearing macrame, etc. Of course, I can't take credit for the idea as I purchased an amusing little trifle of a manifesto last night called "Hey Beatnik," put out around 1970 by a Tennessee commune. Lots of heavy and helpful information, so try not to let the shocking misogny bum you out. Here's a few choice bits, please contact me for a transcription of the entire book. 1) If you plan to keep horses, remember you're getting involved with life and death karma. 2) To get through the [commune's] gate, you've got to work it out with the gate man. The gate man believes in telling the truth. It's a yoga, the gate is a yoga unto itself. 3) We say that we're like a mental nudist colony, and you have to take off your head clothes. 4) (On making outhouses) We've been working out our cultural shit-shock as we go. 5) Deep in your heart, you know that it's a lot harder and takes a lot more patience and a lot more character to tune a car than it does to write an English paper. 6) Sometimes folks are so heavy at weddings-people say their vows so heavy and so pure it just stones everybody. 7) Talk about women's lib, how about unborn babies' lib? 8) Ladies are supposed to take it upon themseles to create a field among them as far as their influence can reach that's nice and smells good and feels good. 9) Single cats shouldn't never spank nobody else's kid. That causes a lot of beatnik trouble. If this is working right, y'all should be smelling me smelling good right about now. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hopkinstim at xxx.com Mon Apr 12 13:32:28 1999 From: hopkinstim at xxx.com (Tim Hopkins) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 05:32:28 PDT Subject: Sinister: They do it down on Camber Sands, they do it at Waikiki Message-ID: <19990412123314.77735.qmail@hotmail.com> Dearly beloved, Knowing what a moral list this one is, I thought I'd caution you that there are signs that ungodly jiggery-pokery may take place at the Bowlie festival. Yes, friends, it has been suggested to me that Camber Sands may be the venue for (shield your eyes, those of a sensitive disposition) sexual congress outside the safety of the matrimonial bed. Don't take my word for it. See for yourself at http://www.squeezefan.com/Songbook/Pulling_Mussels.htm, part of a website dedicated to those purveyors of decidedly questionable smut, Squeeze. I shall, of course, be writing to all your parents individually to warn them that this sort of thing may go on. I am also in the process of compiling the list of things that I intend to do down at Camber Sands. I will be doing down David Sylvian, Mercury Rev, Plymouth Argyle and Pink Floyd. Anyone with any suggestions for additions to this list please mail me privately. Mr Peter 'God Is A PJ' Miller reasoned: >One cannot help but feel that there would be no need for promotional >picnics had no one betrayed the sacred mandate handed to them by the >very heathen masses who are least fooled by the thin veil of illusory >Brit-tastic power and vulgar oppulence on display, thanks to >Babylon's >earthly emissaries, pushers of pop...we trust in pop when the flood >begins, the Lord shall roar and then... I couldn't agree more. Ites. Rasta no picnicpocket. Guilty conscience speak louder than words. Seen. Actually, I tried chanting down Babylon at the weekend and all I got was a sore throat. Maybe next week. >...despite the rather attractive "featuring>players from Belle and Sebastian" sticker. Players? That's reggae >talk, isn't it? Yes indeed. The singers and players of instruments shall be there, unless they're writing stories and arseing around with old synthesisers and tellies and stuff, in which case they won't be there. Prophecy reveal. Out of one, many. I'm also pleased to announce that I have just about recovered form the trauma of finding myself involved in some foul dream from the fetid swamps of Fister Disco's imagination. I mean, how would *you* feel if he dreamed of you and unflushed turds? My own dreams are now haunted by the vision of Miller in a hula skirt singing 'show me a motion, la la la la la'. Not pretty. Incidentally, Peter, if you're reading this, please please please honour the terms of our agreement- I sent the errr...goods for you about SIX MONTHS ago and please if you could take some time and finally send those photos (including the negatives), I'd be extremely grateful (and forgiving!:)) Is the chafing still causing you trouble, by the way? Fluffy, I shall be voting for Coco Pops' name to be changed. Changed forever, d'you hear? K*lloggs is a well-known branch of multinational Babylon and therefore they cannot have anything to say on the subject of pop. It's ours! And they're trying to steal it! And sell it back to us! Yeah! This is your CB Savage, wall to wall and treetop tall. That is all. tim ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Mon Apr 12 14:39:14 1999 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetryplace2) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:39:14 +0100 Subject: Sinister: terror of the vervoids Message-ID: <01be84e9$daef12e0$046b9ac2@g5-200-3> Greetings, grapple fans Inspired by Tiff Hopkins' detection of Camber Sands in a Squeeze lyric, I decided to see what other clues to the forthcoming weekends activities I could find on the wibbly wobbly web. I present the results for your edification.... 1: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3629/season23.html This interesting page tells us that an episode of Colin Baker-era Dr Who was shot at Camber Sands. The title of the episode, rather mysteriously was "Terror of the Vervoids". It also featured the well-known sauce-mistress Linda Bellingham. Does this indicate that The Verve are going to make a surprise appearance for the twee nation? No. As committed W!H!O!vians such as Peter and Keith will know, "the vervoids" was actually the name of Richard Hell's first band after Tom Verlaine kicked him out of Television. So expect a big chorus of "Love Comes in Spurts" some time over the three days. 2: http://www.wcg.org/wn/95nov14/95nov14.txt I quote: "The congregation was the warmest, most responsive Feast audience I have experienced," said coordinator Robert Harrison. "After months of difficulty and sadness, this Feast was sorely needed. The atmosphere of friendship, love, welcome and gratitude was so tangible one could almost touch it." In Camber Sands, England, a family night of games early in the Feast helped break the ice. Keeping the Feast in a campground offered many fellowship opportunities, according to coordinator Russ Couston." I look forward to the many fellowship opportunities myself, and so, I'm sure, does Warrender John. 3: http://members.aol.com/aamolly/words.html Thanks to Tim for this particular link. This site offers many words of wisdom that should really be added to the Sheepster advice page. Here are a few... >From Camber Sands 1998: Remember its Alcohol-is-m , not Alcohol-was-m What's an Alcoholic? A man goes into a bar - big notice on the wall "All you can drink for £5" - I'll have £10 worth he says. Thats an Alcoholic A nice quote from the 1997 Camber Sands Convention: "AA didn't open the gates of heaven and let me in but it opened the gates of hell and let me out" "Most things can be preserved in Alcohol, dignity however is not one of them" 4: http://www.millenniumrecords.com/nishki.htm "NISHKI - where hardstep meets ambience: born on the Big Giant label in 1989, the combination of Lorna Lewis' vocals, Michael Antony Marsh's rhythm sections and their joint keyboard skills gave us a band called Timelike. Headlining at the Camber Sands weekenders and releasing 4 singles gave them a reputation for tough beats with sweet uplifting vocals, as heard on "Emotional High" ( soon be given a 1996 remix ), "Hands Of Love" and the 2 Timelike EP's. Since the unforgettable days of Hardcore, Lorna has worked on numerous dance music projects ranging from swingbeat to hard house while Michael Antony Marsh has been heavily involved with Millennium Records as LOOP 82 and RED CLOUD. Since returning full time to their first love of breakbeat music they have collaborated with Jungle King Stevie Hyper D to play/ produce his first single "Junglist Soldier" on D-Stress Records. " There has always been a junglist element to the Camber Sands weekender. So much for accusations of all the bands being white indie jangle saddoes. I must confess to having a personal interest in this page, as in my spare time, I am Jungle King Stevie Hyper D. Respect. 5: http://www.gravis.demon.co.uk/naturist/pages/nuff/bchs1-l.htm According to this page, "naturists are said to use the remoter parts" at Camber Sands. Remoter parts? Do they mean shrimping? The mind boggles. So much for the advice on bringing swimming costumes. 6: http://www.cyberdarts.com/wdf/wdf99cal.html Apparently, the 1999 English Open Darts Tournament is to be held at Camber Sands this year. So make sure you know all the words to the immortal Dexy's classic "Jackie Wilson says". 7: http://home.clara.net/yates/1998.html I heard there were going to be some cracking birds at gaystock, and I was right. No kingfishers, though. Sorry Peter. "Camber Sands also attracted up to 70 Sanderling. Two Ruff flew over the beach reserve on 15th and the beach itself attracted 545 roosting Curlew on the evening of 10th. An attempt to count the numbers of gulls roosting there on 23rd produced counts of 3,000 Black-headed, 16,000 Common and six adult Mediterranean Gulls." 8: http://websites.ntl.com/~colin.saggers/ Finally, my favourite site... "We are a small troupe of majorettes from the Hertford,Herts area. The girls meet twice a week to practice their twirling and marching. The girls ages range from 9 to 19 and during the summer months they attend various carnivals,fetes etc in the local area. The troupe belongs to the UKFM. the united kingdom federation of majorettes and every year attend the National finals at Camber sands in Sussex." Good news for wee world worshippers! I hear that none other than Isobel Campbell is due to make a guest appearance this year to demonstrate her baton twirling. ******* So there you have it: vervoids, christians, alcoholics, drum and bass, naturism, darts, bird-watching and majorettes. Pretty much what I was expecting anyway. See you there. Oh, before I go, there's going to be another exciting pink lemonade social at the poetry cafe this friday (16 April), with a guest appearance from Sodastream who will be thrilling us with their Nick Drake/Smog acoustic pop stylings. I'll put details up on the meeting board on the tweepster message board in due course. Keep it real Stevie Trousers +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From e.brown at xxx.com Mon Apr 12 14:56:28 1999 From: e.brown at xxx.com (Emanuel Brown) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 05:56:28 -0800 Subject: Sinister: smutister Message-ID: ah, springtime! and the collection of cardigan-clad farmer sinisterniks hoist their plowshares up into the feeble millenial sunlight in the hopes of appeasing that fearsome god of sexual malleability, lucky pierre. pierre will most certainly demand that all of the plowing and milking gets done in a democratic manner, with everyone doing their best to comply at the now-infamous GrabberHands RuttyFestival. what kind of harvest will we see come fall? only the smutister almanac has the answers and i've misplaced mine... e /x\ |\ Free, fast e-mail accessible anytime, anywhere http://www.imaginemail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Apr 12 16:57:19 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:57:19 +0200 Subject: Sinister: and in a packed programme tonight.... Message-ID: <01be84fd$25261e40$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Dear bum-chums, Yesterday I went to the football match and it was Real Sociedad against Real Betis Balompie and it was good and afterwards I was within spitting distance of World Cup flop coach Javier Clemente, but I didn't spit because he seemed like a very nice chap. We made eye contact, I think he wants to sign me up! Then I went to the hootenanny and it was Bob Dylan and it was good too, a little bit country, a little bit rock'n'roll. We didn't make eye contact because there were too many people, but I could tell he was looking for me. He unveiled an achingly beautiful acoustic ballad called "Like Stuart on the Telly" which went down frighteningly well. I could go on and on, but won't. I'm a bit worried about the faling standards onn Splat's Bowlie page. I mean, no one's pretended to be Stephen Pastel yet! I was particularly moved by a message from a nursery member, whose major league sinster debut I look forward to immensely. I also tried to go to the List Crush site to ballot-stuff in favour of David so that he'd come back, but I couldn't get to the site. Some of you may think this is ethically dubious, but I'm sure the votes are heavily weighted anyway. Smiley Culture - the first and best rapper. Fluffy Sarah - first class lady with a first rate product - I believe the ball is in the car boot - BUT YOU NEVER KNOW! A special off-topic "huzzah!" for my neighbour Mister Olazabal, who won the Augusta Masters yesterday. I knew he'd won because there were fireworks in the middle of the night. I bet they don't do that in Largs when Sandy Lyle wins. Or in Kirkcaldy when Jocky Wilson wins. Speaking of which, many thanks to Trousers for his detailed round-up of what makes Camber Sands a beacon for the mentally unhinged. I'm really jealous of everyone who's going now, but out of the goodness of my heart, I've come up with a plan to make it even more fun for everyone - a competition! I'm not sure what the prize will be yet, but it'll be something crap. The aim of the game is simple - to take a photo of one of your chalet-mates in the nude! Or if that proves absolutely impossible - on the bog! It doesn't matter whether your chalet-mate is a boy or a girl, but if it's your daughter I'm calling the police. I'm the judge, and my decision is final. Photos will be judged according to the following criteria: full-frontalness genital deformity nipples (massiveness thereof) When you've had your photo developed, send it to me at the following address: Paul's house, Edinburgh, Scotland. If Trousers is willing to co-operate, the winner will appear as a glossy centrefold in a forthcoming edition of Trousercuts - the magazine for men who don't have to try _too_ hard. Thanks for Ailsa's report on the Glasgow picnic. I yearn for more details. Come on Keith! Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ThisSffrng at xxx.com Mon Apr 12 18:02:27 1999 From: ThisSffrng at xxx.com (ThisSffrng at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:02:27 EDT Subject: Sinister: belle and sebastian new disc Message-ID: <8d01b65.24438123@aol.com> hello everyone anyone in the UK heard any new belle and sebastian songs? from their live gigs obviously, but since I am living in the united states, I wonder.. what Is belle and sebastian like live? please send details and even photos of your own! cheers! carlos xoxox +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Apr 12 19:42:23 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:42:23 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Doh! Message-ID: <01be8514$3567fc80$LocalHost@itjfvkli> I think I may have overstepped the bounds of public decency earlier, when I suggested a nudie photo contest at Camber Sands. I think a bit of family fun would be more appropriate. After all, this isn't the Filthpig list. I have therefore decided to change the rules. We are now looking for candid pants and vest shots. I now feel that it is unfair to make fun of nudity. I've been following the links from Trousers' naturist page, and I've turned over a new leaf. It's a perfectly respectable family activity, and you can get some good videos. Bit pricey though. I apologise for any offence caused, imaginary or otherwise. tail between his legs, Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martinrissbrook at xxx.com Mon Apr 12 22:07:42 1999 From: martinrissbrook at xxx.com (Martin Rissbrook) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:07:42 PDT Subject: Sinister: Back once again.... Message-ID: <19990412210744.6921.qmail@hotmail.com> Subscribe Sinister..... Lock up you daughters (and your mothers, sisters, aunts etc) Lovemeister Risso is back. Back I tell you. For the 900 and 90 odd people who don't remember me (Tag and JJ included!) I used to post about once a month or so about a year ago. Hmmm, put like that it I don't suppose it really sounds like much cause for mass hysteria.... Anyhows..... I've just bribed Honey into letting me out of the nursery early so I can post something witty and provocative...trouble is I can't think of much too say now..... So there's now 1000 on Sinister is there....I do hope it's managed to keep something of its old je ne sais what. The mini Manchester picnic the other night was a great success (if you measure success in terms of pounding hangovers)and I hope that some of the new hundreds of listees get to make some great friends as I have been lucky enough to do. Some quick questions which you may or not want to email me privately with... Did Northy ever come back on the list? Please let it be so. Has the first Sinister baby been born/conceived yet? Has there been a funnier posting than the one describing Tag soaping himself in the bath with Bodyshop Strawberry bubble bath? Somehow I doubt it. I I'm looking forward to seeing everybody at Bowlie next week as I've now managed to blag a ticket staying with three Cockney types blessed with an extremely generous and kind nature. It fair warms the cockles of my heart, it does. Does anybody fancy being a bit of physical activity next weekend (easy girls...I'm not talking bedroom gymnastics here, that's Keith's department)..I was just wondering if anybody fancied a sort of mini five-aside footy tournament...nothing too strenuous, and mixed teams of course...If you do then email me and I'll sort out some teams, if you don't then just write back and tell me to fuck right off, we're going to watch bands, get drunk and shag not chase a ball round on the park, you great tart. In which case I'll just shrivel up with embarrassment and die, and never post again...and you'll be sorry then. And by the way I'm the worst footballer in the world.....worse than the worst Man City player ever...that bad. Well, won't bore you any longer, see lots of you soon I hope (you can throw me back in the nursery now Honey for talking shite!) Love and kisses The Boy Riss ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Tue Apr 13 06:03:50 1999 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 01:03:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: glaring errors! aka jokes i don't get Message-ID: first off trousers said: >Linda Bellingham. Does this indicate that The Verve are going to make a >surprise appearance for the twee nation? No. As committed W!H!O!vians such >as Peter and Keith will know, "the vervoids" was actually the name of >Richard Hell's first band after Tom Verlaine kicked him out of Television. >So expect a big chorus of "Love Comes in Spurts" some time over the three >days. ah, but mr trousers, i do believe that richard hell's band was called the voidoids. of course, this now raises the question, how would i know this, and not trousers or tim popkins or peter miller? i'm puzzled. really, my world has become completely askew, i'm lost without a hand hold in the universe. it's pretty poo. which leads me to the conclusion that this is somehow a joke that i don't get. i should also take this time to point out that i will *not* be appearing at the bowlie. it has to do with problems of money, specifically an airline ticket. but i felt important to warn everyone now, so you will have optimal time to ask for refunds and the like. i don't blame you, i wouldn't go if i wasn't going to be there either. is phillippe missing in action? if so, he might have converted to mormonism and gone on his mission. just a warning. in that case, you should write him a letter. over the weekend, i've been alternately listening to miaow and even as we speak. they rock! not necessarily in a WHO sense of the word, more like a kinder, gentler... something. i'm not big on specifics right now. oh, and have we passed the 1000 mark yet? honey? i love you all. mostly. xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu who are magnetic fields? http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ updated 4/3/99 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Tue Apr 13 10:59:18 1999 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (weejay) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:59:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Roseeeeeeetah! Message-ID: <199904130952.KAA10076@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> Yeah, I'm back, not that I've been away really, but I was a bit down and didn't post or use the computer for that matter much at all. I see that we have nearly reached 1000 subscribers - 13 to go as I write this. Does anyone think we should have some sort of prize for that 1000th person? But only if we all promise not to cheat, yeah? Anyway, I've got a reason to post now, even if it is a tad off- topic. Last night I went to see Rosita at the Joiners' Arms (our friendly local toilet venue) and they were just, oooh, amazingly good. Oh, I don't suppose most of you know, but Rosita = Emmy- Kate & Marie from Kenickie plus 3 others. At the end of the set I tried to find my friends but they'd all dissapeared and after searching for them for 30 mins or so I walked home, covered in glitter, through southampton's roughest area on my own in the dark. Later I bumped into two of said freinds and they said that the band had been shit, that they'd been heckling them, and that they'd left halfway through to go to a nightclub without me. Well, we had a terrible row of course, I mean it was like a religious experience for me, the best gig I've been to since august last year and my 'friends' behaving in such a way, well, it just really got to me. What should I do, oh sinisterines? Remember, these are people who also taunt me with "thing a thong about your dweam of hortheth" which they find terribly amusing. Better find some new friends I suppose. james. Blue Glow is now at http://diskant.future.easyspace.com/blueglow/ (This network is as sick as a dog. If you can't get through try maleslut at chickmail.com instead) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Apr 13 13:22:53 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:22:53 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Just a Quickie Before I Go... Message-ID: <01be85a8$5ad8a520$LocalHost@itjfvkli> ...to say HAPPY THAI NEW YEAR to all the Thais on the list. I realise that I'm exposing myself to the kind of rage caused by the Jack Kerouac's birthday scandal, but I can't think of anything else to say. Have we had anymore Glasgow picnic stories yet? If not, why not? Were Isobel's mum and dad in the audience at the Gerbil Weetabix concert? Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Tue Apr 13 10:31:28 1999 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:31:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Gentle Waves Message-ID: <37130EF0.B5ABC9F5@jeepster.co.uk> hello, just thought you might all be interested ... the following news story is currently up on the SPIN.com website: http://www.spin.com/noise/news/art-19990409-new1/ The Gentle Waves: Second Wave of Belle and Sebastian Solo Projects Belle and Sebastian's vocalist Isobel Campbell is preparing to release The Green Fields of Foreverland, the debut disc from her solo project, the Gentle Waves. B&S bassist Stuart David's side project, Looper, released their nutty but critically acclaimed disc Up A Tree this March on Sub Pop. Campbell's sound is less experimental, boasting a Nick Drake/Joni Mitchell influenced, retro folk-pop sound, not dissimilar from "Is It Wicked Not to Care?" from The Boy with the Arab Strap. Those who crave a larger helping of such a thing, should look for it on May 4 from B&S's U.K. label, Jeepster. cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ ***we are moving on april 1st 1999!*** new postal address is po box 14153, london, sw11 4xu, u.k. tel: 0171 924 2324, fax: 0171 924 6161 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From j_kerswell at xxx.com Tue Apr 13 16:25:28 1999 From: j_kerswell at xxx.com (Magpie Jay) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:25:28 PDT Subject: Sinister: Anti bus love- tube truffles Message-ID: <19990413152529.13107.qmail@hotmail.com> Adventures on the buses of London? No not buses son, I�m afraid it�s far more serious than that, tubes. And while it wasn�t a blooming romance or even romantically angled, it was surely noteworthy on the �courage to face facial zoners� front, hence my paws rest in your boxes. It was a work colleagues leaving do, so she naturally bought me a box of Milk tray (!). Later I sat with my tube buddy Bangtail Burns on the Bakerloo line, trundling home, cellophane veiled choccies on my lap. Now wee burns has a penchant for foodstuffs, especially of the sweet variety, and, well, basically she wouldn�t leave me alone. �Oooooh Johnny, please can I have a choccie?� she whined. �No, I�m saving them for a (an unspecified) special occasion� I replied, to a miffed bangtail. She continued to pester and harang my lap for another three stops, as the traditionally zoning and �you�re not there, really you�re not, I cant see you� fellow commuters smiled from the corners of their mouths at her drooling desparation. Not seeing why I should continue to suffer the humiliation in public, I tell Burns her choccie gobs fate rests on the opinion of a stranger. I turn to the spocky looking Mac clad chap to my right and illicited an opinion as to whether I should open the chocolate box. �I seeenk, you should geeeeve zeeee ladeeee vun� he said (being French and all), I shook on the deal with him, binding burns to just one choc, as I tear open the wrapping. Naturally I offer our spotty frog fiend a choc, and he greedily gobbles, still reluctant to admit defeat by Tracey, I stand up and walk down the carriage offering choccies to all the strange tube folk who spied on our debate. Bizarrely very few accepted, some looked at me like I was some kind of tube looper, others blankly refused and waved me away. Its not as if I even could have had a chance to poison the chocolates, they saw me unwrap them and devour some myself, so even when strangers offer kindness on public transport it is frowned upon. Thankfully, one couple accepted an orange truffle and hazelnut swirl each, and my trip wasn�t redundant, Tracey managed to gob a few handfuls too. So there you have it, not quite tube love, but a slight conquering of commutercamelism. In terms of tube love, I never can return those alluring stares from strangers, I just shy away, and spend the rest of the journey admiring their reflections in the window to avoid eye contact. On the crazy commuter front, i also heard a fantastic new word last weekend, it describes those annoying people (especially on Oxford Street) who get in your way on the path/sidewalk walking in random directions while staring into space, forcing you to gutter step some. The word is 'Meanderthol' and it is my gift to you all. Jay http://members.tripod.com/john_kerswell/star.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Tue Apr 13 17:36:44 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:36:44 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: What's up,doc? Message-ID: Wah, Sinister,dear,are you ill? You look a bit inactive lately,is it a plain ,dull flu or is it the nervousness because Camber Sands is around the corner? I can understand you perfectly,as when I was eight ,the night before going to a summer camp at the top of the mountains (like Heidi!) I couldn't sleep at all,had no dinner and my mummy was very worried about the state I was in just before the only days in the year while I wasn't going to be under her eye. We are one thousand,or nearly.In Spain during the 60's,those wonder years when Massiel snatched Eurovision from astonished Sir Cliff's pure hands and nobody could wear legally a bikini at our sunny seaside,when some fortunate tourist made some magic number,like 20 millions or so, to visit our country he was received when landing by all the local and not so local authorities lavishing all sort of attentions on his honor,like traditional food and wine,traditional dances,and handed him some badge which proclaimed proudly : TURISTA NUMERO 20.000.000.It is just a suggestion that when arriving at Camber's reception,maybe the big ones in the list headed by Mummy Honey could perform some similar ceremony if the fortunate 1000th sinisterite acquiesces in it. About the 'I dont know how it started but it was out there' topic on school uniforms, mine was a pleated ,navy blue pinafore and white shirt or poloneck.I agree with Mary Elia,( I believe it was you),it was bloody hot in June to wear a wolly pinafore and if sitting by the window we resembled chicken in an oven.I remember some friend saying not long ago she couldn't bother about navy blue clothes because they will always mean for her stupid rules to follow when you are a kid and society ,represented by education,tries to tame you. I nodded ,but suddenly I realised I love navy blue and spent my whole childhood moaning about the uniform.They have tamed me,who will take out the wild part of me? Not carrying any navy blue clothes to the Bowlie,promise Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From j_kerswell at xxx.com Tue Apr 13 17:47:17 1999 From: j_kerswell at xxx.com (Magpie Jay) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:47:17 PDT Subject: Sinister: Tube truffles-not bus love Message-ID: <19990413164717.42108.qmail@hotmail.com> Adventures on the buses of London? No not buses son, I�m afraid it�s far more serious than that, tubes. And while it wasn�t a blooming romance or even romantically angled, it was surely noteworthy on the �courage to face facial zoners� front, hence my paws rest in your boxes. It was a work colleagues leaving do, so she naturally bought me a box of Milk tray (!). Later I sat with my tube buddy Bangtail Burns on the Bakerloo line, trundling home, cellophane veiled choccies on my lap.Now wee burns has a penchant for foodstuffs, especially of the sweet variety, and, well, basically she wouldn�t leave me alone. �Oooooh Johnny, please can I have a choccie?� she whined. �No, I�m saving them for a (an unspecified) special occasion� I replied, to a miffed bangtail. She continued to pester and harang my lap for another three stops, as the traditionally zoning and �you�re not there, really you�re not, I cant see you� fellow commuters smiled from the corners of their mouths at her drooling desparation. Not seeing why I should continue to suffer the humiliation in public, I tell Burns her choccie gobs fate rests on the opinion of a stranger. I turn to the spocky looking Mac clad chap to my right and illicited an opinion as to whether I should open the chocolate box. �I seeenk, you should geeeeve zeeee ladeeee vun� he said (being French and all), I shook on the deal with him, binding burns to just one choc, as I tear open the wrapping. Naturally I offer our spotty frog fiend a choc, and he greedily gobbles, still reluctant to admit defeat by Tracey, I stand up and walk down the carriage offering choccies to all the strange tube folk who spied on our debate. Bizarrely very few accepted, some looked at me like I was some kind of tube looper, others blankly refused and waved me away. Its not as if I even could have had a chance to poison the chocolates, they saw me unwrap them and devour some myself, so even when strangers offer kindness on public transport it is frowned upon. Thankfully, one couple accepted an orange truffle and hazelnut swirl each, and my trip wasn�t redundant, Tracey managed to gob a few handfuls too. So there you have it, not quite tube love, but a slight conquering of commutercamelism. In terms of tube love, I never can return those alluring stares from strangers, I just shy away, and spend the rest of the journey admiring their reflections in the window to avoid eye contact. On the crazy commuter front, i also heard a fantastic new word last weekend, it describes those annoying people (especially on Oxford Street) who get in your way on the path/sidewalk walking in random directions while staring into space, forcing you to gutter step some.The word is 'Meanderthol' and it is my gift to you all. A Bowlieless Jay http://members.tripod.com/john_kerswell/star.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Tue Apr 13 18:08:35 1999 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:08:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Jeepster News ... (B&S releated of course!) Message-ID: <37137A13.CBAE05DD@jeepster.co.uk> hello, here is the news: ***The Gentle Waves*** the album "The Green Fields of Foreverland" will be released on CD in the U.S. on May 4th through Jeepster/Never Records and is distributed by Proper Distribution. we've already had a review at Spin Online, if you want to check it out the URL is: http://www.spin.com/noise/news/art-19990409-new1/ Isobel has asked us to let you know the following regarding the gig @ The Mitchell Theatre in Glasgow on Saturday April 10th ... "i would like to apologise for the strange positioning of the cinema screen at last nights concert. the "technical" manager's interpretation of front of stage (centre in fact) was very different from our own. stuart and i tried everything to penetrate some district council consciousness but failed miserably. it was saturday afterall? as for lighting and bar staff, well, i suppose it's just municipal tradition." we haven't heard any reports back from anyone with regards to the gig, but apparently the council weren't particularly helpful in setting up the gig. :( But here's the review from the London gig which is in this weeks NME: "Easter Sunday and we're in the church of the poison mind. Presiding over services is Isobel Campbell, Belle & Sebastian's blondely angelic cellist. Pretty much everyone in the Gentle Waves congregation is also in B&S , which makes for a cosy atmosphere. They trade brass and strings, while Isobel trills softly-sung tales of woodland creatures, starry nights and existential misery. To illustrate the point, we are also treated to two grainy, tres French short films by Francois Trauffaut which mediate on the way youth's innocence is lost in the face of cruel, unimaginative reality. This is Campbell's muse, and although it reeks of coffee-house pretension, these fey affections are twisted into such incredibly winning, meltingly lush melodies that you can't help but succumb. Rather like Belle & Sebastian, actually. Appropriately black of jumper and timid of demeanour, Campbell leads her unmerry band through the delicately orchestrated lullabies that make her Gentle Waves record such an understated treasure. There's the slender metronomic chant of "Hangman In The Shadow", the folky pastoralism of "Evensong", the Carpenters sweep of "Dirty Snow For The Broken Ground". The sombre tone is lifted only briefly by "Weatherhosw", when a bearded man gives the vibraphone a vigorous frisking. Sadly, Campbell's thorny nursery rhymes are too fragile to make much impact beyond the B&S fraternity; they seem meant to be listened to once and then sealed in rose-scented boxes. But deep in the hearts of the quietly glum, no doubt they will be worshipped forever. - April Long (c) NME, April 1999." ***Belle & Sebastian*** are in rehearsals for their Bowlie and Dublin appearances, the next release will be "Tigermilk", which contrary to other information has NOT yet been allocated a release date, but needless to say it will be in the summer sometime! again, we'll let you know when we have more info blah blah blah ... wee Chris has another DJ'ing venture this weekend @ "The Hip-Trip" which is at Alaska in Bath Lane, Glasgow on Sunday 18th April from about 11.00pm onwards. it's lovely! :) ***Looper*** have just returned from a successful promo tour in Belgium + Amsterdam where they did a session for the National Radio station VPRO. they're in rehearsals at the moment putting a together a "live" band for their Bowlie appearance, so if you've got tickets it'll be a first! ************************************************************************ quick plug for non-Jeepster band sodastream ... :) to coincide with their Bowlie appearance, they also play the following gigs around the country: *friday 16th april - london, poetry cafe, headlining, onstage @ 9.30pm, entry is £3 on the door (thanks to wicked stevie trousers!) *saturday 17th april - glasgow, nice n' sleazy's, supporting salako, onstage @ 10.00pm, entry is £3.50 on the door (thanks to mr stuart lee murdoch!) *sunday 18th april - hull, adelphi, headlining with Fonda 500 in support, onstage approximately 9.30pm, entry is £3.00 on the door (thanks to those rascally boys Salako!) *wednesday 21st april - leicester, the factory, headlining with l'augmentation in support) onstage approximately 9.30pm, entry is £3.00 on the door (thanks to the lovely Nigel @ Pickled Egg!) *thursday 22nd april - sheffield, supporting the delgados at their bowlie warm-up, details tbc (thanks to the Delgados!) *saturday 24th april - camber sands, bowlie weekender indie fest *friday 30th april - london, rough trade talbot road w11, instore appearance, time tbc (thanks to nigel + delia @ rough trade) plus on their way back to melbourne they're stopping off in perth and playing south-west and perth dates from 5th - 9th may :) check out the bands website at http://listen.to/sodastream/ ************************************************************************ alrighty, that's it for now! speak to you all again soon :) cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ ***we are moving on april 1st 1999!*** new postal address is po box 14153, london, sw11 4xu, u.k. tel: 0171 924 2324, fax: 0171 924 6161 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Tue Apr 13 18:26:52 1999 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:26:52 -0400 Subject: Sinister: shall we shag now or shall we shag at bowlie? Message-ID: <000f01be85d2$eeae9dc0$751e05d1@tinystar> hi listies, i've no doubt that this lack of sinister messages means you are all discussing amongst yourselves ways to get me to bowlie. because it would mean a serious lack of fun and excitement were i not there, not to mention a noticeable dent in the sinister celebrity quotient. so get back to thinking. if you needed encouragement, i've now got a photo on the sinister photo page. can i enter the bowlie photo contest even if i don't go, by sending a photo of myself in a vest? i'm onto a winner here, i think. as a matter of fact, if you would like to see a photo of me in the process of removing my vest, go here: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Styx/3733 yes kids, you have already won. wholesome, jessicaxo * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * someone had spied on us, i suppose, as we sat beside the canal and ate the sandwiches, drinking not even orangeade or coca-cola but hot milk out of a thermos. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * t i n y s t a r @ w o r l d y . c o m (it's lovely being a girl) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris.jones at xxx.uk Tue Apr 13 17:46:04 1999 From: chris.jones at xxx.uk (Chris Jones) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:46:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Very Gentle Waves Message-ID: <199904131719.SAA30270@smtp.saqnet.co.uk> chris.jones at saqnet.co.uk http://www.saqnet.co.uk/users/saxtead/chris.htm I have just bought 'The Green Fields...' and I'm listening to it now. So far it's impressed, although I agree that it is slightly disappointing not to have a few more Evensong's or Weathershow's. Is it just me, or does Isobel get quieter and quieter throughout the album? It is very beautiful though, and it's much better than the reviews claim. When is Tigermilk due for UK release? Will it be a 'regular' price, because I saw a copy advertised in the NME for £18.99 or something like that? Chris Jones. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Tue Apr 13 18:27:35 1999 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:27:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: B&S - Q Article - April 1999 Message-ID: <37137E87.C42950F8@jeepster.co.uk> hello, i don't think this has been sent yet, enjoy! :) ************************************************************************ Forget Jarvis Cocker waggling a derogatory arse at Michael Jackson or Chumbawamba emptying an icebucket over John Prescott, the Brits Upset 1999 was by far the most ludicrous. Miles away from the cocaine-encrusted celebrations at London Arena on February 16, the mild-mannered janitor of a Glasgow church - accustomed to polishing floors and setting out tables and chairs for pensioners' coffee mornings - was the author of an incident that would have The Sun up in arms within a week. Following the news that, four years into their existence, Belle & Sebastian had scooped the Best Newcomer Award - as voted for by the listeners of Radio 1 and accepted by bemused drummer Richard Colburn and trumpeter Mick Cooke - the band's songwriter/frontman Stuart Murdoch phoned his mum and then quietly broke out the champagne. As he has done throughout Belle & Sebastian's rise to prominence, the 30-year-old part-time ecclesiastical caretaker refused all requests for an interview. Meanwhile, in London, Pete Waterman alleged that vote-rigging had swindled his pop charges Steps out of their rightful award. Two days later, The Sun demanded a phone poll recount, deemed unnecessary by Radio 1 and the BPI. This faintly ridiculous affair added another surreal twist to the history of the Scottish octet. Media-shy and purposefully obtuse, the band have only been photographed on a handful of occasions. Furthermore, the bulk of their interviews are now conducted by their drummer or, for the purposes of European phone interviews, their manager impersonating their drummer. For the uninitiated, Belle & Sebastian offer a gossamer, hushed acoustic folk that at times echoes Nick Drake as captured on a four-track in a Kelvingrove bedroom. Fronted by the peculiarly Anglo-vowelled Murdoch, the songwriter's skewed lyrical observations regularly examine some form of pervy puritanism (sample line: "She was into S&M and Bible studies"). To generalise even more grossly, Belle & Sebastian followers are the bookish, boo-to-a-goose type last spotted in 1989 before "baggy" led the independent charge over the commercial horizon, leaving those with a fondness for duffle coats, lightly strummed guitars or twee lyrical conceits in their wake. As a result, B&S seemed destined for a life of Top 10 independent chart status while rarely troubling the "proper" rundown. But then, in September last year, the band's third album, The Boy With The Arab Strap, entered the chart at Number 12, only one position behind the aggressively marketed Hole. To date, it has chalked up 60,000 sales. And following the controversial Brit Award, even those who'd dismissed Belle & Sebastian as fey, awkward, underachieving, pretentious bastards were forced to sit up and take notice. On a sunny, pre-spring Monday afternoon in Glasgow, the B&S contingent democratically elected to receive Q - drummer Colburn (tea) and pixie-like keyboardist Chris Geddes (surprisingly rock Jack Daniels and coke) - sit in the basement of an organic café/bar around the corner from CaVa Studios where the group are recording their fourth album. While the former shares church lodgings and janitorial duties with Murdoch ("Especially at the moment, it helps you maintain some level of sanity"), the latter first encountered Murdoch at a string of Glasgow parties where the uniquely attired songwriter could often be found haranguing revellers with blunt look-at-me tactics. "He was always trying to play people his songs," Geddes recalls, "and having folk go, Look Stuart, just shut up. It was like, Get away you mad guy in silver trousers." As reluctant as he may now be to step into the spotlight, four years ago Stuart Murdoch was desperate for attention. While one apocryphal version of his pre-B&S past has him stopping potential band members in the street, it is known that he would regularly hitch south to London to drop tapes off at Broadcasting House for John Peel. Having become involved in Beatbox, a music workshop for the unemployed, he hooked up with bassist Stuart David ("Quite contemporary compared to us," jokes Geddes. "He's got a computer and a puffa jacket^Ã…") and the two began recording Murdoch's songs under the name Rhode Island. They answered a small ad placed by Alan Rankine, former Associates guitarist-turned-lecturer on Glasgow's Stow College music industry course. Rankine was searching for bands willing to become guinea pigs for the college's annual project - which involved students in every aspect of a record's release, from sound engineering to press and promotion. While previous years had yielded singles, when Rhode Island - now renamed Belle & Sebastian and expanded to a seven-piece - were selected, they used their five-day studio session to record an entire album, Tigermilk. Only 1,000 vinyl copies were pressed (now changing hands for up to £200), but the record created enough of a stir to prompt A&R excitement amongst the major labels. Instead, Belle & Sebastian signed to minuscule London-based label Jeepster, founded by former EMI publicist Mark Jones. The label boss recalls the first time he saw Murdoch play in a bedroom at a Glasgow party: "He just came in wearing a vest, a pair of shorts and Doc Martens, put his foot up on one of those white traffic bollards and started playing these incredible songs." Still, the band affected a half-arsed attitude towards Jones's initial advances. "It was really funny the first few times he came up," Colburn admits. "He sat there getting paranoid 'cause none of us would say a word." "They were unimpressed by anything I tried to say or offer them," Jones marvels. "Half the band would just bugger off and Stevie (Jackson, guitarist) would sit there playing with a teabag, dunking it on a plate for a half an hour. But I thought there was something completely magical about them. For three months afterwards, I still couldn't even really talk to Stuart because I was just so in awe of him." Q asks Murdoch's bandmates to sum up their colleagues in a sentence: cellist Isobel Campbell is deemed "totally fantastic^Ã… really talented"; trumpeter Mick Cooke "makes less mistakes musically than all the rest of us put together^Ã… and more mistakes personally"; violinist and "novelty instrumentalist" Sarah Martin is "the most indie out of us all"; and of Stevie Jackson we learn that "White Lines is his favourite tune". Yet they stall and stumble over their words in attempting to nail their frontman in a soundbite. "He's just^Ã… a guy who happens to be a really good songwriter," Geddes mumbles. "I wouldn't put up with anyone else phoning the house at the hours he does, but you let him get away with it because it's him." Becoming anxious that Belle & Sebastian were being increasingly viewed as a one-man operation, insiders claim that Stuart Murdoch tried to nip his burgeoning cult of personality in the bud. Of course, his subsequent refusal to do any interviews whatsoever has had the opposite effect, bathing the frontman in a more enigmatic light. "It's definitely been made a bigger deal out of than it should've been," reasons Geddes. "He'd done a few interviews, wasn't happy with the way they put the band across, so he decided not to do them. I don't see anything abnormal about that." "I think it was a lot to do with him being misquoted and stuff," Colburn offers. "He just wasn't happy with being interviewed and then reading it all jumbled up." (Q subsequently offers Murdoch an opportunity to tape any form of interview he might agree to, in an effort to assure him that he wouldn't be misquoted. He declines, relaying a message via his press officer that "he really doesn't like talking about himself".) Belle & Sebastian's attitude to promotional photographs of themselves has been weirder still. To date, these have included: album covers featuring shots of friends, one breast-feeding a toy tiger; a group painting with the supposed band members (more of their friends) posing in the background; cellist Campbell with her face obscured by a surgical mask and a re-enactment of The Last Supper featuring a smattering of B&S members and - hey - their pals. "We just want pictures to look good," Geddes insists, "and basically most snapshots of eight-piece bands look awful. I don't see why there's a problem. There are photos of everyone in the band. It's not like we're like (hides head under jacket). It's just not wanting to have too many crap-looking pictures. The Daily Mail took a photo of all of us backstage after a gig and we're just sat around looking awful." The consequent lack of a band identity gives the group's constituents plenty of room for manoeuvre. Less a band, more a confederation of independent states, most have other musical projects on the go. Stuart David's short stories-with-samplers project, Looper, is already attracting attention, while Isobel Campbell plays a major role on The Gentle Waves' debut album, The Green Fields Of Foreverland. Stevie Jackson helps out The Secret Goldfish. Colburn assists Camera Obscura. Colburn and Campbell played on Snow Patrol's Songs For Polar Bears and Chris Geddes, Murdoch and Campbell are on the first Arab Strap album. Geddes is in the dancey V-Twin and DJs as Twin Tub. And that's probably just the tip of the iceberg. So far it's Belle & Sebastian who have captured the public's imagination. Record buyers want to know about them, so isn't there a responsibility to communicate with the public, even via the press? "I disagree," argues Geddes. "If people have a right to demand anything of you, it's that you make good records. If you go out of your way to be a media pop star, then you will get to a point where people can legitimately say, Well this is the sphere you operate in, you do have these obligations. But, I mean, all we've ever set ourselves up as was a bunch of people making records and as far as I'm concerned, that's the only responsibility we've got^Ã…" oday, Belle & Sebastian are doing a bad impression of a "difficult" band. Rather than mystique-mongering, Colburn describes the artful troupe as basically comprising "six blokes and two birds". They're keen to explode certain other myths about themselves, including that they snubbed the offer of a support slot from Radiohead ("It was in South East Asia and we couldn't get the backing because we're on such a small label"), that when performing live they play ridiculously quietly to test the patience of the audience ("There's folk playing recorders and the cello^Ã… we're not AC/DC or The Who") and that they turned down Top Of The Pops for This Is Just A Modern Rock Song ("Top Of The Pops is definitely one of the few collective ambitions the band has^Ã… the record just didn't go in the charts high enough"). Even the suggestion that two members turning up at the Brits seemed like not-a-very-Belle-&-Sebastian-thing-to-do is roundly rebuffed by Colburn: "It would've been a fairly obvious thing not to go because of The Verve refusing and stuff. You get invited to a party, so you go." As regards Pete Waterman's vote-rigging allegations, Chris Geddes is keen to point out that B&S fans are highly Web-literate (their site averages 200,000 hits per week). "We've got 60,000 fans or something," he states, "and out of them, it's understandable that 10,000 bothered to vote. OK, Steps have got a fan club of half a million, but they couldn't be bothered to vote." For the record, then, the keyboardist did personally vote in The Sun's phone poll recount. "The whole thing was hilarious," he grins. "In the space of three days, we'd become household names without leaving the flat^Ã…" While that sentence alone seems to sum up Belle & Sebastian and everything might appear rosy in their world, an uncomfortable atmosphere descends when Q accompanies the pair back to CaVa Studios. Stuart Murdoch, it transpires, is working in the basement studio below our very feet. Ever-diplomatic, Colburn shrugs in explanation, "It'd be great to hang out, but y'know, the rest of the band are downstairs and stuff^Ã…" Hiding, effectively. Perhaps, in retreating further into the shadows, Stuart Murdoch is complicating matters for himself, with what appears to be a mediaphobia. Moreover, if Belle & Sebastian's profile and sales increase, it seems unlikely that anyone close to him will dare question his strategy. "Say if Paul Simon or Bob Dylan or one of those type of people turned up on your doorstep," Jeepster's Mark Jones offers, drawing mighty parallels. "You'd kind of have to think, You're absolutely amazing^Ã… you can do whatever you want." ************************************************************************ Q BackIssues are available either by calling the back issues line on 01858 435341 or write to them at Tower House, Sovereign Park, Market Harborough, Leicestershire, LE16 9EF, U.K. cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ ***we are moving on april 1st 1999!*** new postal address is po box 14153, london, sw11 4xu, u.k. tel: 0171 924 2324, fax: 0171 924 6161 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Wed Apr 14 05:09:38 1999 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake E. Hamilton) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:09:38 -0400 Subject: Sinister: from the boy who plays bass guitar... Message-ID: <000701be862c$9e0281c0$304e1198@wfu.edu> Dear Hamsters, I haven't posted in a while, so I hope that this blurb isn't stale nor belittling in any fashion. What I'm really writing for is advice, so let me tell you all the entire story. My friend and I went into town today for a lunch, and upon walking into the restaurant, I was greeted with the most saintly vision these sunken in eyes have ever seen--true beauty in the form of a little 17 year old dark haired girl-hostess (i'm 18, by the way, for clarification), with an orange/red dress on. As she seated us, I knew that I was witnessing a true act of perfection. My friend, who to a lesser extent also acknowledged the girl's beauty, didn't believe my declaration of love at first sight. Although she didn't wait on us, she was in my eyeshot for the entire meal, and I couldn't eat. I don't remember parts of the meal that well. My senses were shot out like breakaway glass--total euphoric bliss. So here's the tricky part--do I say something to her? Well I couldn't today, but the idea of returning solely to gaze upon her light brown locks has been mentioned, and I can't risk the idea of letting perfection pass by me like twilight, and leave amidst a shroud. So can anyone tell me what to do? The thought of a measely little customer randomly running to the front of the restaurant to strike up a conversation with the hostess will take more than guts and a good plan. B&S content--upon leaving the restaurant and gazing back, i dubbed her (nameless as of now) The Girl with the Fiery Gown. I figured everyone here would get a wee kick out of that. an eternal wish for bliss, wrapped in boxes, and sold separately with happy meals, blake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eculb at xxx.uk Wed Apr 14 11:24:28 1999 From: eculb at xxx.uk (JaMeS) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:24:28 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: not much really Message-ID: hello boys and girls, a dreaded sunny day, for once, the sun is shhhinee-ing something lovely. Pretty good review of the GW london gig in NME, but they didnt play Weathershow did they? maybe my patchy memory is getting the better of me again i dont know...yeah, and the reviews of the album are getting better, Flipside liked it, and the reviewer in Mojo also liked it - 'twee but nice' was the general concensus. i cant type them up cos i didnt buy the mags, i just read them in WH Smiths this morning, im a cheapskate. Aw, and i also just looked at the Jeepster Bowlie page - the page with spare tickets, as i entertained visions of me somehow being able to afford to go, now im sad :( i like that Badly drawn boy song, he sounds like john lennon. anyway, hope you all have a GRRREEAT time at Bowlie!!! JaMeS :) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Hall/7789 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Wed Apr 14 06:09:57 1999 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick * Sandcastle Records) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 01:09:57 -0400 Subject: Sinister: You Have Nothing to Fear but Rejection Message-ID: <37142325.7C55E6E4@ohiou.edu> Hello, Blake that is my advice to you. In other news, I really enjoyed that Q article. More of amusement than general pleasantness. I think the articles are an interesting way to see how the world views the band and us. Well, maybe the press aren't a good representation of the rest of the world, but they're closer than we not quite normal fans, aren't they? You know, I just realized something. For as much as I liked the new Looper, I haven't really listened to it that much. Maybe it's the timing or something, but I've heard the same thing about them before. I'm now quite curious to hear the Gentle Waves (doesn't it sound like a New Age tape?) after hearing everyone and their 2nd cousin twice removed say they are wonderful. Come to think of it, has anyone said anything bad? I think most of the people who don't like Isobel or her songs to begin with are avoiding her, so maybe that's it. Wah, so why do we get the release a month late? Oh well, no matter... And I'm still waiting for news on that single that'll come out before the album, since I figure the news on the album won't come until after that. Oh yes, out of curiosity (I'm sure I've spelled that wrong somehow) I joined that *other* B&S list, and I just want you all to know that there is little for you to be jealous of - literally! I think that other than the Jeepster stuff which we got on this list there was only one message so far and I've lost track of how many day's I've been subscribed, but it's something like a week. Oh! I almost forgot the message which said "subscribe." So that's two messages. To put you in perspective, PJ Miller's posts are probably double or triple that of the entire non-news output of the Jeepster B&S list. Plus we also need to take into account that Mister Miller's posts are 200-300% funnier than most, so somehow you have to put that into the formula. I don't know how to do it, I stopped taking math at Algebra 2. They say that Leonardo da Vinci wrote in his diary backwards with his left hand and drew sketches of engineering marvels in the margins with his right. Doesn't that make you feel like an underachiever? I thought so. Oh, and I hope I'm the last one to comment on the bird attack thread, but one Fabio was recently attacked by a goose whilst he debuted a rollercoaster for a popular theme park. If memory serves, the vicious beady-eyed goose tore some 2" long scratches on his face. Ow! Now I bet you all don't feel as silly running from those geese when they chased after you. It's not the bread that they're after boy, it's you. Hm...I think I'll quit now before my puns get worse. Goodnight. /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick/Sandcastle Records <<->> bp224996 at ohiou.edu \ / Sandcastle Records Homepage: ICQ#5056758 | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | -Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Richard.Lander at xxx.com Wed Apr 14 05:25:31 1999 From: Richard.Lander at xxx.com (Richard.Lander at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:25:31 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V3 #117, Richard Hell, Dr Who, Sinister Babies.... Message-ID: Having read the Digest which I subscribe to at work (to sneakily read when the boss is out) I saw some things which I have to respond to. Besides I haven't written if for, ooooh, simply ages anyway. Mr Trousers wrote >This interesting page tells us that an episode of Colin Baker-era Dr Who was shot at Camber Sands. >The title of the episode, rather mysteriously was "Terror of the Vervoids". Nah. It was the story after Terror of the Vervoids. The one where its revealed that Michael Jayston is the Doctors evil alter ego. I can't remember what the name of this story was but I bet someone out there knows. The other filming that went on at Camber Sands was 'Carry On - Follow That Camel', way way back in the sixties. Martin Rissbrook wrote >Has the first Sinister baby been born/conceived yet? I think theres been other Sinister babies but yeah, we have our own small personette name of Victoria Avalon Lander born on 12 December 1998. Now 4 months old she sits on my knee (with a bit of help from me) and watches the computer when I read my Sinister mail/Stephinsongs email. Happy Songkran, Thai New Year. Start throwing water at people now. Love & Light Richard +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lindakerr at xxx.com Wed Apr 14 10:39:43 1999 From: lindakerr at xxx.com (Linda Kerr) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 02:39:43 PDT Subject: Sinister: Holiday camps Message-ID: <19990414093946.46327.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi chaps Read at the weekend that the Kosovan refugees may be housed in holiday camps in the UK. What better introduction to UK culture than Bowlie? However, crap council houses will probably be nearer the truth. Anybody else a wee bit scared at the thought of Bowlie in all this snow and frost? Linda ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Wed Apr 14 12:31:57 1999 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:31:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bowlie Weekender Message-ID: <37147CAD.F0159733@jeepster.co.uk> hello again, just a quick message to anyone who is still trying to get hold of tickets for the Bowlie Weekender - April 23rd - 25th: a small number of chalets have just gone back on sale due to cancelled reservations. i'm not sure exactly how many are available but they are various sizes between 4, 5, 6 and 7 beds each. Tickets are £85.00 (eighty five pounds) for a weekend pass to include festival entrance and chalet accommodation and are available from Ticketweb, either by phone on 0171-771-2000 or online at http://www.ticketweb.co.uk Apartments must be booked as a complete 4,5,6 or 7 bed unit. A £25.00 (twenty five pounds) refundable damages deposit will be required from each person on arrival at the site and will be refunded when leaving the site. Hope this helps someone! Cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ ***we are moving on april 1st 1999!*** new postal address is po box 14153, london, sw11 4xu, u.k. tel: 0171 924 2324, fax: 0171 924 6161 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From L.Kerr at xxx.uk Wed Apr 14 09:45:56 1999 From: L.Kerr at xxx.uk (L. Kerr) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:45:56 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Re : Just a quickie... Message-ID: ..before I go to renew my devotion to Lord Jesus Christ and all his little helpers. Sister Disco, a lady in a grey velvet swing jacket was in the audience, at the Gentle Waves, shepherding an even older lady, who may have been Isobel's gran. The lack of an old dog made identification completely certain. I certainly enjoyed the Gentle Waves concert, although it was maybe a wee bit gentle and wavy. I had this vision of Isobel crooning in the corner of a supper club in France just before the German occupation, and thought, hmm "that would work". The songs on their own perhaps did not stand up to the examination conditions of a concert. I like the album - especially the cowboy song. Cowboy songs are great. Tell me a bad one. Go on. The picnic was well up to the usual standard of non-picnicness, being conducted in a locked concrete amphitheatre and afterwards in a pub, where Chris Leonard made Philadelphia Cheese and Chive sandwiches for everyone, and the barman also tried to sell us a copy of Tigermilk. Dr Who was filmed on Camber Sands? That must have been a big budget production. Cheers Linda +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.edu Wed Apr 14 14:47:46 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.edu (Brandt S. Fundak) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:47:46 -0400 Subject: Sinister: My deal with Looper, falling for your friends, everything really Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990414094746.008c5100@popb.bgsu.edu> I feel like utter crap right now, only having gotten two hours of sleep. But I will get to that in a second. Okay I have been listening to Looper quite a bit lately and while I do love it, something bothers me the more I listen to it. And that would be that most of the music of every song is duplicated in at least one other songs. I call like 7 of the songs "Treehouse songs" because they all involve the same melody and are usually about a treehouse. At first I found it cute, even enchanting, but now it is statring to annoy. Has the shelf life on this album passed for other people on the list too? Anyway, went over to one of my really good friend's apt. last night and got involved in tales of her recent lovelife and it turned into a conversation about my feelings for her really. I ended up staying there until 6:30. Nothing happened. I'm a moron. Okay, off to hear how much of a loser I am from my advisor. Talk to you later. Brandt "Mmmm...that's good Billy." --Troy McClure +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Snowinsumr at xxx.com Wed Apr 14 14:53:42 1999 From: Snowinsumr at xxx.com (Snowinsumr at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:53:42 EDT Subject: Sinister: "...she's thinking of something to do..." Message-ID: <1d6b3bc0.2445f7e6@aol.com> dear "helpless and fretting" diary... meganelise is the birthday girl...tomorrow...sigh...and she doesn't know how to feel...the boy who is always working wants to take her somewhere and although that makes her feel very special and happy...she hates her own birthday...she much rather loves to celebrate other's birthdays...and as attention frightens the little girl...and she is pretty sure that her mum has something up her sleeve...as she is always planning surprises...meganelise is very very very scared of tomorrow's events... otherwise...she's doing well...she met a boy...a cute one...with really big brown eyes...a boy that makes her mixtapes and gives her shy hugs...which are the only kind that she can give...so it seems that they may have been meant for each other... she is on her way to the radio station...to play music for the one person that occasionally listens and calls in to tell her that her time and patience is not for nothing.... shy hugs... meganelise +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed Apr 14 14:51:05 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:51:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: No one has mentioned Bell-end Semenstain lately Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22599FAE@server1.HITEntertainment.com> One day, could someone please write to sinister and say "great! This interview in x media scum mag is quite funny, and pretty accurate, and informative too! I really enjoyed reading that" with a big honest metaphorical grin. I enjoyed reading the Q interview, I thought the piece in Select was funny and often spot on, I like the fact people in the media are interested in B&S - I don't care about their motives, I think it's fab that the band get press. I really enjoyed the Q review because it talked about my favourite band, and said things I didn't know, and gave me a bit more of an idea what Richard and Chris and Stevie are like (though I was disturbed by that bit with the teabag). I found it funny when it was funny, not just because I knew more than the writer. I'm sure the interviewer got some things wrong - most of which I couldn't correct anyway - but so what? I don't read Q, I don't suppose I ever will, but thank you to them for putting Belle and Sebastian in their paper. There. Sorry, I had to say that - I'm sure Mick had no intention of saying any of the things I've railed against, but it just reminded me of all the responses to articles that have been posted here, many of which have veered off into elitism and one-upmanship. Hell, I enjoy elitism and one-upmanship as much as the next one-upman, but I felt I should say this rather than bottling it up till next time. To lighter things...am I wrong, or does tinystar Jess every now and again write to the list promising to take off yet another item of clothing? There is in fact a photo of me with me vest on somewhere on the net, but I imagine it's less alluring, somehow... School uniform - until I was 13, I had to wear a crimson blazer to school, which gave the local thugs an extremely easy target. There was a lot more trouble between the local girls' schools, though - just before I left, there were reports of vanloads of police having to break up a running battle at Wimbledon station between 50 girls, armed with knives, bike chains etc. Must have been quite a sight, if not terribly Belle and Sebastian. I'm going to buy a football for Bowlie. Shit on the Villa, Markx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Wed Apr 14 15:35:05 1999 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:35:05 +0100 () Subject: Sinister: get me away from here i'm making a video Message-ID: i just found out a little piece of on-topic info which i'd like to share. a friend of a friend of a friend, i am told, made a music video for his course, and the song he used was 'get me away...'. with the permission of b&s, who asked for a copy of it. the friend of a friend was in his video, and the friend (getting nearer and nearer to actual connection to me here) has seen it. sounds great: it's a little story of a guy being two-timed by his girlfriend. what i want to know is, is the person behind this video ON THIS LIST? jamie from manchester?? train of thought 1: i liked the Q article too, especially the quotes from Chris. stuart m as 'mad guy in silver trousers' and stud as 'contemporary' guy with a 'computer and a puffa jacket'. bless. train of thought 2: one of the schools i went to didn't have a uniform, and today i wish i'd had the privilege of weraing blazers and ties... anything to avoid having to look back at school photos where i sport t-shirts tucked into leggings, pink and red combos, hand-knitted jumpers etc. no-one should be allowed to be an individual before the age of 16. i'm now plunged into another looongggg essay and thinking bitterly of the bowlie, but i console myself with the fact that at least i haven't been crossed in love (recently) or hounded by the press, or attacked by a bird. and i've just changed the colours on my email programme to look all summery, despite the freezing temperatures. i suggest we have a picnic in brighton sometime. on the beach, away from london pollution. are you with me? (only, it has to be after my exams...) lounging in the green fields of foreverland (metaphorically), archel xxx ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth do something pretty while you can don't be afraid rap101 at york.ac.uk skating a pirouette on ice is cool http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Wed Apr 14 16:06:32 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:06:32 PDT Subject: Sinister: la jardinage me passione Message-ID: <19990414150632.62540.qmail@hotmail.com> are we all talking about romantic bus stories? I HATE buses! schoolbuses have no respect for us country folk. There couldn`t have been a more worse day to miss the bus,normally I`d be jumping up and down at the thought to stay home,but i have to do this lettre for french about how i want to be a gardener,and now i cant get it in,and wahh FAIL FAIL FAIL. ...Stuart Murdoch might not be at the Bowlie festival,you may not realise this,but he`s a Goblin King. See,there was this young lady named Guntherette,who lived in a mud-hut,(the girl was practically a slave,but no-one knew that the Goblin King was madly in love with her) and wanted to experience the better things in life...and she so wanted to go to the beautiful Sands Of Camber,where she could frolick in the sparkling waters,wash her hair with the mini-bottles of shampoo,sleep in and twirl around. Her wicked witch-guardian wanted to crush fun and joy from Guntherette`s life,merely,because she had the power to do so,the wicked witch`s answer for everything was "Because I Say So". Guntherette was being very fowl and cursing the wicked witch-guardian and moaning about all the unpleasant-ness and un-fairness in her life and cried out "You can bet it is a bitch,kid!" These words summoned up the Goblin Murdoch King....he flew in through the window,a magnificent purple aura surrounding him,wearing italian leather thigh high boots and a billowing lilac cape,his feathered hair shimmered and danced in the light,hundreds of the finest jewls you`d ever seen adorned him. "Goblin King,Goblin King!" she cried. The Goblin King walked slowly and very dramatically towards her,every step echoing through the hall. "I`ve brought you a gift,peasant girl." "Oh! Oh! A ticket to Bowlie!" The Goblin King snickered. "Shut up you.It`s a crystal,nothing more,but if you turn it this way and look into it,it will show you your dreams." The Goblin King proceeded to twirl and prance around,tossing the crystal high up into the air, balancing it on his head,rubbing his stomach,patting his head,all at the same time. "But there is a catch..." "What!?" Guntherette exclaimed. The Goblin King whispered into her ear. "I`ll never! I don`t need your crystal!" The Goblin King stamped his foot. "Do not defy me." He snapped his fingers and his little mini-goblin minions appeared, stu-D-goblin and mick-goblin,ferocious and snarling,tried to bite at her ankles.Then a dark purple smoke rose up around him and he started to sing "Your eyes can be so cruel.Just As I can be so cruel.But I still believe in you." that`s the end.It`s supposed to be vague and artistic,like it leaves you wondering,you know? there`s lots of good parts,but i left them out bye bye,(kiss,kiss) your bored-missed-bus sinister pal...genevieve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ip211579 at xxx.pt Wed Apr 14 16:25:19 1999 From: ip211579 at xxx.pt (LostComet) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:25:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Funny ... Message-ID: <001b01be868b$4353e3e0$1d7a17c3@pc> Hello list, I just saw a B&S CD with Tigermilk plus 6 songs from a special session at a music shop around here. At a total cost of 3.000$000 Escudos ( 13 pounds). Is this the original CD? Just wondering. LostComet +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordi-tv at xxx.com Wed Apr 14 14:16:00 1999 From: jordi-tv at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano i Vilar) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:16:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: just asking Message-ID: <19990414171600.HM.00000000000IaVn@mixmail.com> I�m making the 2nd issue of my B&S zine, and I�m having problems to get information about Evie Sands. I know her discography (I�ve checked the All-Music site) but there are some questions that I need to know: -The album "Suspended animation" was sang only by Dusty Springfield ? -Who collaborated with her at the "Anyway that you want me" album ? -Did the NME or any other sort a review of the B&S & Evie S. gig ? -Does anybody know a website where I can get some pictures of her ? If you can help me, then I�d be very thankful. Please - E-Mail me at my other address: 0291942a01 at abonados.cplus.es If the one who answers me goes to the Bowlie, then we can talk about some free drinking or anything else..... ================================================== Jordiet ================================================== Tu E-Mail Gratis en http://www.olemail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Wed Apr 14 17:09:55 1999 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:09:55 -0400 Subject: Sinister: chasing a bee Message-ID: <000801be8691$5ba6f1c0$671e05d1@tinystar> hey list, marky mark perceptively pointed out: >To lighter things...am I wrong, or does tinystar Jess every now and again >write to the list promising to take off yet another item of clothing? well, that's a bit of an exaggeration. there's no stripping going on here! i simply do you all the service of pointing out different places on the web that i can be found. no nudity, pg-13 all the way, just me and my writing. and if any of you feel compelled to pay my way to bowlie, well, that's just lovely. by the way, have you seen that more chalets have opened up? just curious. my kingdom for a ticket, jessicaxo * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * someone had spied on us, i suppose, as we sat beside the canal and ate the sandwiches, drinking not even orangeade or coca-cola but hot milk out of a thermos. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * t i n y s t a r @ w o r l d y . c o m (it's lovely being a girl) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From macarthur at xxx.com Wed Apr 14 17:38:55 1999 From: macarthur at xxx.com (Graham MacArthur) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:38:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: sinister: to coin a phase Message-ID: Dear listees, I'm back in your box again - don't say you missed me, i'll only get embarassed. I retrieved my copy of TBWTAS from a previous crushboy - the scally didn't even give it to me personally, he gave it to a friend, so I feel i'm back with the bellies again, somehow things arent quite right not having the choice between albums... Arent boys terrible? i asked for pasta shapes, expecting something suitably sweet like thomas the tank engine, or if it was my lucky day, barbie shapes, but no..you send your big brother out to buy pasta shapes and they bring back MATCH pasta shapes with pictures of "cheeky" footballers all over the front. If anyone is collecting the wrappers for their stud-filled MATCH calendar, you're welcome to mine! well, like Brett Anderson, "I like food, food is good". I want to wish you all frolicsome fun in bowlie - don't let the frost get you down, i want to see rosy cheeked photographs of everyone braving the cold running in and out of chalets - don't forget, as sinister peeps you have a reputation to live up to - if you're not going to be smutty, you'd better be miserable! :) love Erica +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From untitled at xxx.com Wed Apr 14 18:54:08 1999 From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:54:08 -0400 Subject: Sinister: If they dare touch a hair on your head I'll fight to the last breath Message-ID: <199904141354_MC2-71FE-D1F0@compuserve.com> Right, I've finally graduated from the nursery and I've grown up. Things have broken and things have dropped and here I find myself. Where I used to be awkward, ill fitting and feeling slightly nervous and overwhelmed in the nursery; I'm now a fully fledged graduate. Over the past few weeks while I was gestating, I was sent a many weird and wonderful emails from a many weird and wonderful people, all of whom appear to be having a private conversation with each other via my computer. Nervous were my fingers, eager to tap away to someone but it was all one sided. But I was there when Jenny Applecake spent a lot of time and effort baking a cake only to wander around the streets of London for several hours too shy to ask strangers if they were sinister or knew anyone who was. I was there and agree with Funkyseb when he's having a moan about that gangwanking at the bottom of this email, I wonder who wrote it first? I've also noticed some of the traditions here. Just look at the subject line, pointless and bearing little resemblance to the main text. Hum, can anyone guess from what song it came from, 4 points for the title, 3 for the artist and 3 for the album. Oh dear I hope I haven't over streached myself. Honey warns of that, strict punishment awaits anyone who strays from the line. Well, I'll stop wasting everyone's time and I'll say bye bye Rob +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From summerwasting at xxx.com Wed Apr 14 19:59:22 1999 From: summerwasting at xxx.com (Nick Eeepooh!) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:59:22 PDT Subject: Sinister: looper Message-ID: <19990414185922.68171.qmail@hotmail.com> i was just wondering if anyone found the looper album a little dissapointing. i mean i got all psyched about it, marched to Zulu records only to find it to be 24.98(canadian)! so i start listening to it and i hear that same impossible things recorder riff thing like a zillion times all over the timewise skimpy album. you know it's cool, sweet and bouncy and all but i don't think 'ol stu tried that hard. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Wed Apr 14 20:57:51 1999 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Fluffy Sarah) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:57:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Armadillo Van Halen vs Fatboy Led Zepplin Message-ID: hello fellow gentle cheese fans! some slogans for the proposed Bowlie teeshirts: i nambled and pambled with isobel campbell! i bought three teddies with chris geddes! i drunk some dandelion and burdock with the enigmatic stuart murdoch! i did an impression of tommy cooper with stuart out of looper! are you startin' wit sarah martin? i listened to the gentle waves for a bit and i thought it was a pile of ...................general but derivative folk/twee rubbish! i bought a second-hand kalxon from the feisty stevie jackson! i shared a pint of golden churn with richard col...burn! sod those poncey study at stow ones...schools (almost) out for summer! I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Sarah +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Snowinsumr at xxx.com Wed Apr 14 20:58:11 1999 From: Snowinsumr at xxx.com (Snowinsumr at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:58:11 EDT Subject: Sinister: "...she thought of something to do...she's going to chicago..." Message-ID: dear "writing two emails in one day should be a sin" diary... meganelise and her shy boy, matthewheath, are going to chicago...she is so very excited...they are leaving on her birthday, which is tomorrow, and staying for part of the weekend...what will they do? the floor is open for suggestions...if anyone would be so kind as to help...meganelise is curious to see the school of the arts in chicago...which she hopes on liking and deciding to attend...and also drag city records as they are the home of the wonderful gastr del sol, edith frost, plush and smog... shy hugs... meganelise +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From CiaraMacL at xxx.com Wed Apr 14 20:31:17 1999 From: CiaraMacL at xxx.com (CiaraMacL at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:31:17 EDT Subject: Sinister: Cambersand's films Message-ID: <1a51745f.24464705@aol.com> Hi It's Ciara and I'm hear at my PC with Stuart M. I'm feeling sad cause I'm not well enough to go to the Bowlie thingy. Stuart is consoling me by saying it'll probably be a pile of cack. What rubbish he talks (?!). But anyway he told me what films they have to show in the cinema there. (my comments in brackets) On 16 mill film. What's 16 mill Stuart ? Ferris Bueller's Day Off ( I like the shower scene) Annie Hall (classic woody) Get Carter ( I thought he was in ER ?) Smashing Time ( Aye everyone but me - boo hoo) The Unbelievable Truth (?) A boo de soof - (or some frenchie art shit I can't spell ) Dazed and Confused - (yeah) Paris Texas (gasp) Gregory's Girl (Tel or De Ror) Naked (sad and scarey) And loads of short films of SPECIAL INTEREST from the Rank Organisation in the sixties. Such as Student Nurse 'In' Gear The Ball at his Feet Behind the Ton Up Boys Model Girl Away From the Blackboard Gold in the Sand (the Secret World of Scampi) Saturday Special (the Making of Childrens' Films) Floating on Air ('What is happening to the Hovercraft ?') Those brackets were not my comments but the literal truth from the catalogue. (Alas it's true...) love Ciara. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acoyboy at xxx.com Thu Apr 15 01:00:41 1999 From: acoyboy at xxx.com (boyon abike) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:00:41 PDT Subject: Sinister: Starting New Cults Message-ID: <19990415000041.86625.qmail@hotmail.com> Hullo to each and every happy-yet-sinister-bunny, well, it seems as though many, many, many bunnies are coming out of the brush and thickets, having thoroughly gesticulated. Call me a late bloomer, or whatsoever ye wish: i have been on this lovely mailing list since November last and this is my first, but that should not matter to anyone. i just felt an uncontrollable desire to come out and say 'love' to everyone on this wonderful list. although i generally loathe writing e-mail, how could one resist, i ask? you have made me laugh and cry like the song of the clarinet, or better yet like the song of B&S ;). i envy each and every bowlie-goer, but i know the beauty of our treasured belle and sebastian will transcend all life and flow directly into my being, wherever i may be. one last note, (not meaning to abuse this grand list, thank you very much honey) if any cads or minxes wish to have a new pen-pal, please e-mail me privately, for i am more than available for some good ol' fashon' pen frolics. wheeeee 8). hips and hops, de "suddenly, a soft voice spoke over my head: 'what's the matter, my poor child" - fydor dostoyevsky _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iles at xxx.uk Thu Apr 15 11:03:15 1999 From: iles at xxx.uk (Mark Iles) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:03:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Dr Who at Camber Sands In-Reply-To: <199904150001.SAA12157@turtle.esosoft.net> Message-ID: >>This interesting page tells us that an episode of Colin Baker-era Dr Who was >shot at Camber Sands. >The title of the episode, rather mysteriously was >"Terror >of the Vervoids". > >Nah. It was the story after Terror of the Vervoids. The one where its revealed >that Michael Jayston is the Doctors evil alter ego. I can't remember what the >name of this story was but I bet someone out there knows. I think it was called The Ultimate Foe and was part of the Trial of a Time Lord story. >The other filming that >went on at Camber Sands was 'Carry On - Follow That Camel', way way back >in the >sixties. Was that the one with Phil Silvers? Cool. And Linds said: >Dr Who was filmed on Camber Sands? That must have been a big budget >production. Hey, no making fun. They also filmed Dr Who as far afield as Paris, Spain and Lanzerote. And Skaro, of course. I'm kind of hoping someone can correct my Dr Who trivia, because then I won't look quite so sad. How about Stuart for the next Doctor? Isabelle could be his companion and they could have a musical interlude in the middle. Maybe not. Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ Mark Iles, Tel: +44 (0113) 2065042 Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Fax: +44 (0113) 2340183 Genetic Epidemiology Laboratory, Ashley Wing, Email: iles at boreas.leeds.icnet.uk St James's University Hospital, Beckett Street, Leeds, LS9 7TF U.K. ____________________________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kissingdom at xxx.net Thu Apr 15 10:34:21 1999 From: kissingdom at xxx.net (Tony) Date: 15 Apr 99 10:34:21 BST Subject: Sinister: ..she's thinking of something to do... Message-ID: <19990415093421.16314.qmail@nw171.netaddress.usa.net> meganelise is the birthday girl...tomorrow...sigh...and she doesn't know how to feel...the boy who is always working wants to take her somewhere and although that makes her feel very special and happy...she hates her own birthday...she much rather loves to celebrate other's birthdays well if meganlise is in London and wants to join wee Karen and myself celebrate our birthdays tonight (15th) at The Water Rats Theatre in Kings Cross, shes more than welcome, my friend Suzanne is playing and we have a guest list and I may even run to some champagane... As always I buy myself the best birthday presents - this year in was the Looper and Ben & Jason albums. Tony ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Apr 15 12:13:32 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:13:32 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Slouching Towards Bowlie Mayhem Message-ID: <01be8731$00e66900$LocalHost@itjfvkli> I too thought the Bowliefest was going to be cack, but now I'm knock-kneed at the thought of missing those fabulous special interest short films. Can someone bootleg them for me, please? Bad cowboy songs? "There's a Guy Works Down the Chip Shop Swears He's Elvis" and "Crocodile Shoes" and "Don't Come the Cowboy With Me Sonny Jim" by Kirsty Macoll and Spender. I vote for "I nambled and pambled with Isobel Campbell". JEEPSTER PISS-TAKE CORNER: I also enjoy the B&S articles in the music press, I just say they're shite in a vain attempt to get on Beepster's nerves, seeing as they seem to virtually write them these days. I particularly enjoy the increasingly far-fetched attempts to make Murdoch out to be a complete freak, even more of a loony than he really is. I mean for example - over to Mister Jones: "He came in wearing just a vest, a pair of shorts and Doc Martens, put his foot up on one of those white traffic bollards and started playing these incredible songs." Does that mean he wasn't wearing underpants? If not, did his goolies fall out when he put his foot up on the "white traffic bollard"? No wonder Mister Jones was taken aback.... "For three months afterwards, I still couldn't even really talk to Stuart because I was just so in awe of him." With the Scottish elections coming up, I wonder who B&S are going to vote for? Is Murdoch a Donald Dewar devotee? Will Isobel commit the "unpardonable folly" of voting SNP? Does Sarah get a vote? I would ask the folks at Beepster, but they go all funny when they hear the word "vote". Ha ha, just a bit of friendly ribbing. But I'm a bit surprised by the fact that none of these articles in the music press seem willing to dig a little deeper. Surely they don't really believe that ten thousand people voted for B&S in the Brits? Even educated fleas can see that the idea is preposterous and ludicrous, not to mention outlandish. And why don't they reject the received wisdom that S L Murdoch is a really great songwriter? I mean, he's not bad....and does anyone else think Paul Simon and Bob Dylan are on a par with each other? Mitchell, I saw an album by Kate Jugsy yesterday, and it was really cheap, but I couldn't buy it because I was affronted by her Brian May bubble perm. Has it gone yet? Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eliam at xxx.edu Thu Apr 15 13:14:34 1999 From: eliam at xxx.edu (Marie Elia) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 99 08:14:34 -0400 Subject: Sinister: bunch of gangwanking loopers Message-ID: <199904151214.IAA17111@pellns.alleg.edu> hallo, sinister. it's 8am, too early -- and my paper is due in one and a half hours. yes, i'm a student, therefore i feel compelled to tell you all about all the work i have... hey, it says "students" right in the footer, so i feel justified in exploiting my collegiate experience. speaking of the footer, i rather like the gangwanking whimsy-thon part... it's got that s&m/biblestudies thing about it -- cute but vaguely sinister, yes? when my friends comment that belle & sebastian are cute (having heard a few songs here and there), i'm like, yeah but they're so Dirty -- you have to listen to the lyrics. ah, but they don't believe me. i agree with pj miller that the press, from what i've read, seem to make stuart m. out to be a freak and a half. i don't know the guy, so i can't say -- maybe he Does run around in shorts and no underwear, and while i'm sure that most of the biscuit-nibbling, nambling pambling list got a kick out of that image (uh, yeah), i think it's just the press being bored b/c they can't actually Talk to the guy in the silver trousers... oh, by the way, i too vote for "i nambled and pambled with isobel campbell." sadly, i won't be crocheting at cambersands (although i CAN crochet -- oh geez, i'm so cool, yeah?), or cosuming any rice pudding, or (hmmmm....) participating in said whimsy-thon.... but you sinister lot go and have yrselves a real good time, okay? and why is everyone dissing looper? i think the album is awesome -- as for the repeating melody, isn't that kind of the point? like, video loops and looped beats and all? it makes for a nice, cohesive, continuous 40 minutes (or whatever) of music.... okay, i'll put this post out of its misery, having worked about 75% of the footer phrases into my 4 paragraphs -- i need to write my paper.... xo, marie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Thu Apr 15 15:11:11 1999 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:11:11 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: Green eggs and ham Message-ID: Mark wrote; >I'm kind of hoping someone can correct my Dr Who trivia, because >then I won't look quite so sad. How about Stuart for the next >Doctor? Isabelle could be his companion and they could have a >musical interlude in the middle. Maybe not. Well Stu's got the boyish charm. And Izzy would look great in a boob tube. If the Master was to launch an attempt to rule the world by subjecting us to his phat kickin' beats, Stu and Isobel could throw sublime chord changes and innocent filth at him till they lodged in his beard, thus weighing him down and halting his dastardly plans. I reckon they could do it. I'm all in favour of musical interludes. I read in the paper the other day that some film distribution people are trying to close down a cinema for having intermissions during films. Wankers. Intermissions are great. How else is granny going to get to stretch her legs, dad smoke his pipe, and a hundered people tap their toes to chill wurlitzer sounds? Talking of organs (ooh!), or at least pianos, has anyone seen a film called The 5000 Fingers Of Dr T? It was on telly the other day. It was apparently based on a book by Dr Seuss and was about a boy who dreamt of an evil music teacher called Dr Terwilliker who was training 500 boys (with 5000 fingers) to play an enormous grand piano with thousands of keys. Scary stuff. Luckily the plumber saved the day. That's all for now. Robin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Thu Apr 15 15:47:42 1999 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MS1996) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:47:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Gentle Waves (my God! he used the actual proper name!) review Message-ID: <3715FC0E.56D6C371@cs.strath.ac.uk> Here, for anyone who's interested, is a rather nice review of the Glasgow gig on Saturday from the Glasgow Herald. Belle and Sebastian's cellist and vocalist, Bel Campbell, has made a solo album under the name The Gentle Waves. Critics who pretend to regret that B&S triumphed over the group Steps at the Brit Awards detect in The Green Fields of Foreverland a fey indie-girl indulging in an Edwardian hippy picnic, and this on the strength of the title alone. But the true and now considerable B&S fanbase is highly motivated. A girl in the audience, announces Stuart Murdoch, has followed the Gentle Waves to Leeds, London, and Cardiff, apparently finding the latter gig cancelled ("Say you're sorry!" calls a voice). Allowing Mr Murdoch to romp after this particular stick on his own, Bel busies herself with her role as band leader, introducing Margaret Smith (flute, xylophone, etc) pointing out that we already know everyone else. And indeed, the rest of the seven-piece band are all members of the Belle & Sebastian collective. However, the Gentle Waves turns out not to be B&S beneath a shifting spotlight. At it's heart is Bel's small, soft voice. Around her, the band move from one instrument to another, sympathetically changing the textures from a loping country bass and slide guitar to glittering arpeggio with muted horn and flute. The timeless scene is set by two short French movies : The Red Balloon and Truffaut's Les Mistons. Stories of naive grace, love misunderstood, loss and understanding, light and darkness. The chanteuse is dressed in black, the model of a student teacher in mid-calf pleated skirt. She sings Evensong in French translation, or perhaps that is how she wrote it. The Gentle Waves: not so much a gig as an event. (By Peter Easton) Also, do Chris and Keith know that Chas and Dave are playing at the Cottier Theatre on Monday? Perhaps you could pick up some tips on how to keep your rabbits going for longer. That's all. Alasdair x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eculb at xxx.uk Thu Apr 15 16:26:07 1999 From: eculb at xxx.uk (JaMeS) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:26:07 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: hey hey hey Message-ID: hullo people, yeah, right on, that person who mentioned about the media trying to create something wierd and mysterious about B&S, or in particular Stu M. i found the Q headline in that article most laughable - THIS MAN HAS WON A BRIT (but he doesn't want you to know about it...) - its all rather silly now isnt it? still, i'll buy anything with B&S in it, mug that i am... hmm, oh, quick note, ive put up a few photos of the Gentle Waves from the London gig up on my site now, plus a few from the B&S shep empire gig as well for good measure. they can be found at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Hall/7789 it should be ok i think, but if you cant view it, please mail me and let me know the problem... oh,and ive also done another short story thing as well for my site, so there. Enjoy! JaMeS :) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Hall/7789 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michelle at xxx.org Thu Apr 15 19:55:07 1999 From: Michelle at xxx.org (Michelle Meacham) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:55:07 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I've finally found my people Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From honey at xxx.net Thu Apr 15 23:19:44 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:19:44 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Gentle Waves (my God! he used the actual proper name!) review In-Reply-To: <3715FC0E.56D6C371@cs.strath.ac.uk> Message-ID: Alasdair Cook, codename MS1996, said that the Glasgow Herald said: > ... A girl in > the audience, announces Stuart Murdoch, has followed the Gentle Waves to > Leeds, London, and Cardiff, apparently finding the latter gig cancelled > ("Say you're sorry!" calls a voice). The disembodied voice was Neil, Mr B&S Management, mixing desk slummer and sometime bassiste for B&S. The "girl" was our very own Kara, a loyal Sinistereen of this parish who told us about her abortive Cardiff trip a week or so ago: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/cgi-local/archive.cgi?month=199904&msg=00048 and who had come along to "the picnic" (bit like a picnic in a nuclear bunker, but the thought was there), and told me the Cardiff story again with astounding good-nature. And you can crucify me now Kara for your embarrassment, because I told our mauve-headed popster about your Cardiff fiasco between the films and the songs, expecting something a little twee-er (say a consolation gift of a furry pencil-case with a butterfly on it) than his robust "oh poor kid, I'll say sorry from the stage haha". Still at least Neil got Isobel to say sorry :) Oh and yes, the barman at the pub really DID leave a phone number on our table for a vinyl copy of Tigermilk he has for sale, so if anyone's interested I have his number (he gave me the eye), so just mail me privately. I think he's cottoned on to it being worth a bob or two though, I offered 2 quid and handful of Pringle crisps and he wasn't having any of it. Yes, we're on 995 listees as we speak, and excitedly leaning forward from the back seat over daddy's shoulder to see all the 9's on the milometer clock round to nice sensible 1000s when we turn the next corner. Is this how a load of monks in a field felt in 999 AD? In a minute daddy will turn round and slap our thighs and tell us to stop getting so excited and making so much noise and play with our Travel Scrabble. Yes we could have a big party and pronounce the 1000th listee king or queen for the day I suppose, but the rate at which you lot subscribe and unsubscribe I think they'll probably be about 12 "1000th" listees. Besides you'll all go and cheat :) The spontaneously combustible Mr Miller said: > Mitchell, I saw an album by Kate Jugsy yesterday, and it was really > cheap, but I couldn't buy it because I was affronted by her Brian May > bubble perm. Has it gone yet? Peter, I think there's something amiss with your keyboard you keep spelling things wrongly recently - oddly it's only proper names... anyway Peter is referring to the wondrous Miss Kate Rusby a fabulous Yorkshire folk-singing lass, fabulous because she's a folk singer and still fabulous (eh?). I'm totally transfixed by her, in spite of her hair, and Peter should have bought that LP, so let him ever be ashamed. She's only done one so far and that's it. I even sneaked a song of hers onto my tape-tree-tape-tree-tape to see if anyone noticed or was too discreet to say "it's folk, fucking RUN!". Mind you, folk music is a very scary thing, as attendance at a concert of Kate's a week or so ago in Edinburgh demonstrated. It's like descending into the Wheeltappers and Shunters social club circa 1973 and if you go to a bona-fide folk gig in the UK, make sure you're near the fire exit. There's an awful sense of "that man sitting next to me is about to sing along, or pray out loud, or something". The "support act" featured a Belgian accordionist who had bright blue curly hair and leather pants and grinned like a loon, hopping from foot to foot. I tell you, very very frightening. Thank you Ciara for those Cambers films - but why on earth not "Carry On - Follow That Camel"?? It's a literary classic and you think the management at Camber Sands would tart their heritage to high heavens if it was really filmed there. Sinister knows how to tart its heritage. Someone gave us a fabulous summary of Dr Who episodes, what I'm wondering is, was this an ironic impersonation of Vince from "Queer As Folk"? The UK documentary that's taking the #Sinister chatroom by storm, and from which Starry seems to be selling video stills of the rude three-in-a-bed bits. While stocks last, folks. Honey xxx NP: JAMC: "Honey's Dead", Honeybunch: "Mine Your Own Business", The Pastels: "Baby Honey", Mariah Carey: "Honey" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Thu Apr 15 23:21:46 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:21:46 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Preponderently Pre-Bowlie Ponderings Message-ID: <199904151822_MC2-7226-7C38@compuserve.com> Evening All, Firstly, a question for all you philosophy students out there: Can a mailing list be a mailing list, when nobody sends any mail? Discuss. (Preferably on the Jeepster list, so that there's some traffic to enable new subscribers to tell that they've actually joined.) Anyway. My plans for intensive training for the Bowlie have gone awry. Moons ago I resolved to revise hard, listening to the (?) seven B&S tapes in rotation to arrive at that necessary familiarity with the lyrics, so that I can mouth all the words in my flat off-key stage whisper during the gig. I was aiming for total recall, so that the minutest change of words by Mad Murdoch could result in a knowing smile passing immediately across my lips, enabling onlookers to realise they were in the presence of a true believer. Failed miserably. For some reason I've been listening to Orbital in the car (dead loud - scared the boss when I arrived at work the other morning) and Catatonia (does "hopeless third album" come after "difficult second"?) I also got dragged off to see The Fun Loving Criminals the other night: definitely a mistake, as they're one of those weird bands that play for over an hour and a half, talk to the audience, get people dancing, scary shit like that. That Huey though, he's a real sort. That geezer from Indian Ropeman was scary too, partly because he's the spitting image of my brother-in-law. Stop rambling. What was the answer to Tag's eminently sensible question, as to how many keys to a Bowlie chalet? I don't recall seeing an answer (or any jokes about how many B&S fans it might take to turn just one, let alone several) Another problem troubling me is who the hell will be in the Stage 2 bit on Sunday night, and therefore how will 2600 people fit in the Stage 1 bit, that doesn't hold that many people anyway? Nearly done. I reckon I can trump you all in the school uniform competition though. How does a mid 16th-century ensemble of ankle-length navy blue coat with silver buttons and leather belt, hairy grey breeches with silver buttons at the knee, long yellow woollen socks, hand-me-down clumpy black shoes resoled by the school's cobbler, topped off with white bands at the throat, worn every school day from 11 to 17 years old grab you? Oh, I forgot the white buttonless shirt, held together by the big safety pin that went through the bands to hold them in place (& through your windpipe most mornings as well, at the ungodly hour we had to rise.) Apologies for the fact that these always look like they were edited by William Burroughs - it doesn't happen to any other of my mails! David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Fri Apr 16 01:15:14 1999 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:15:14 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Book reports Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990415171514.00972420@mail.hooked.net> Lurkers unite! [ My only weakness is a list of rhymes ] So what does this have to do with anything? Very little except that I had my first Belle and Sebestian dream last night. I was a student in a wee-kiddie classroom where all the students were barnyard animals save me. Isobel was the teacher and we were turning in book reports. I remember liking very much how she sat on the corner of her desk in her starched white blouse, oddly wearing those cat-like glasses common in the late 50's. It made me wonder whether she was part cat, although she had no such physical characteristics to mention. I was so shy that when I went to turn in my book report that I wasn't able to look her in the face. I walked right up to her with my eyes averted (I think down) and slid my paper on the top of the pile. All I could think was that I hoped she would like mine and read it in class the next day. I figured if that happened the next time I turned in my book report I'd look her straight in the eyes... Anyway, not much of a wild dream, just more of a spring daydream so it sent me off to think of faux book report titles (or perhaps more like theses) that might catch the eyes of a literary sweetie, hopefully one that was as much of a nutter as myself. Some books I've been reading: - South of the Border, West of the Sun (Murakami) * The Self-Erotic Destruction of the Soul : A Deviant Buddhism Explored - The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle (Murakami) * Well or Sewer? Overlapping Reincarnations of a Japanese Neo-Hippie - Master and Margerita (Bulgakov) * Temporally Challenged: Soliloquoy of a Fork-Tongued Narcissist - The Bremen Town Musicians (Grimm) * Dog, Rooster, Cat, Ass: A Knickerless Pilgrimmage Unravelled senor droolcup [ lean to love me, assemble the ways ] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Fri Apr 16 02:32:39 1999 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick * Sandcastle Records) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 21:32:39 -0400 Subject: Sinister: A Tango with Death OR Flute Solos Message-ID: <37169337.5A6F9EFC@ohiou.edu> Hi, Er, no one died, just so you all know. Hm...been a pretty eventful few days it seems. Lotsa newbies with amusing/interesting first posts. As I was walking about today, I found myself humming a song. "What is this song?" I found myself wondering. In fact, after a few steps I realized that it was the A-side to the new Castaway Stones single. The odd part to this is that due to a previously broken record player I've only had the chance to listen to the record once (well, at the time of the humming I had). So...definately catchy. Hm, I find myself wondering something: if the Gentle Waves have a flute, etc. player, does this mean we can expect her to lend her flauting skills to the next B&S record? I certainly hope so. None in a number of various instrument solos has ever quite matched that flute solo in "Belle & Sebastian." Really, I mean that, it's really great. I found myself liking flute solos from then on, and since that wasn't a B&S member playing, we've all been deprived of flute solos post-Dog on Wheels. I was delighted to see Ferris Bueller's Day off in the list of movies being shown, despite my financial inability to attend. Definately the best teen flick of the 80's, in these eyes. As an aside, does anyone know if there's a way to get ahold of the soundtrack? Out of curiosity I checked Amazon.com and I got The Rockin' Berries Featuring Jefferson. Somehow I don't that's the same thing. Oh, nevermind, I found some info on it. Apparently there were only 20 copies of it. That explains some things. And one of the songs I like was by the Flowerpot Men. Anyone? Anyone? Okay I'll get off this topic. Lastly, I would like to say if anyone is in Chicago, they should really check out the art museums there. I have a bad time with museum names, but the one they go to in Ferris Bueller's Day Off (I think it's something like The Chicago Art Museum or a similar no-brainer) is great and has several Dali's. And a trip to Chicago is not complete without a stop at Reckless Records. Yep. Okay, that's enough for me, must get back to work. /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick/Sandcastle Records <<->> bp224996 at ohiou.edu \ / Sandcastle Records Homepage: ICQ#5056758 | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | -Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mphintz at xxx.com Fri Apr 16 02:58:59 1999 From: Mphintz at xxx.com (Mphintz at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 21:58:59 EDT Subject: Sinister: belle and sebastian as folk Message-ID: Due to the North American lack of quality British television like "Queer as Folk", I was wondering if perhaps during the day at Bowlie if the bands would be doing a reading of the episodes for us deprived. Since there are about nine women and fifty men in all the bands, I don't think casting would be a problem. Neil Hannon as Nathan, Stuart M as Vince, and playing Stuart is... the Queen Mother. Maybe not. Camber Sands isn't listed in my Let's Go book so I'm afraid it must not really exist. Or does it just appear from the mists like Brigadoon? Belle and Sebastian have contributed greatly in my slide to vice. Note in November at the shows in New York City, I realized I had forgotten the tickets and had to travel an hour on the train each way to retrieve them. Somehow or other the first pack found its way into my bag. Later that night after the show we retired to a bar. I only really recall drinking gin and tonics and making sure everyone else at the table had lit up. And now I am getting strangely excited about the thought of duty-free cigarettes when Brian and I come over to Bowlie. With London as a den of vice, I fear where this will lead. But I plan on enjoying the ride nonetheless. Living and loving Matthew --------------------- Stolen Kisses http://members.tripod.com/stolenkisses stolkisses at aol.com/mphintz at aol.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordi-tv at xxx.com Fri Apr 16 07:30:32 1999 From: jordi-tv at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano i Vilar) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 07:30:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: really sorry, but... Message-ID: <19990416103032.HM.00000000000Iu8s@mixmail.com> I have to request again for the guy from the sinister digest who send me a message about Evie Sands. I deleted his e-mail. The same thing happened with the one from Mick from Sandcastle records, who I rpomised to send him my zine. Mick, send me your adress again, please. My apologies to the list mum. ============================== ==================== Jordiet ================================================== Tu E-Mail Gratis en http://www.olemail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i95pjg at xxx.uk Fri Apr 16 10:29:43 1999 From: i95pjg at xxx.uk (PAUL J GARDINER) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:29:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: struggling in the vortex, with my jacket made from goretex Message-ID: <005f01be87eb$a8efe170$79ab3cc1@is3188.tay.ac.uk> While reading the University of Abertay Dundee "magazine" today I came across this "Belle and Sebastian: The Boy With the Arab Strap Light candles, drink wine, kick-back, and become enveloped in a carefree, softly spoken dream world, in which the album design and accompanying videos, add to the effect. The surprise winners are a delight to listen to, procuring a sound between Simon & Garfunkle and The Cranberries; and they sing about Dundee:Very avant garde. RATING 8/10" the cranberries!! I vow to hunt this guy down and do bad things to him. paul gardiner +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Fri Apr 16 10:35:32 1999 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgirl) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 02:35:32 PDT Subject: Sinister: england this summer.. Message-ID: <19990416093533.53812.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey sinsister freaks, I an a friend are planning a trip to Uk in the summer. These towns are high on out visiting rate. Were going to Manchester, Bournemouth and London of course. It's me and my friend Lovisa, were going in june for two weeks I think. Hopefully! Now er are wondering, may it be a sinsiter meet up?? Can we have a blast?? Does anyone know any cheap places in London to saty in?? thanx hugs belle people Love becky # I'm staying out for the summer- dodgy# # go and have a peek at my page it's constantly developing, http://www.angelfire.com/me/Mizzy # ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Fri Apr 16 11:00:15 1999 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 02:00:15 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Roolin' Berries Message-ID: Hello folks Is there something wrong with the page that lists the Bowlie line-up? The bottom of the page doesn't seem to be loading, the bit where it says that Roolz will be there. If it's Roolz who are playing stage two on the sunday night then I'd be more worried about overcrowding in there. Looper are playing as a full band? Wow, it'll be like when Dylan went electric. The shortness of the Looper album is more of an issue for me than any running melodic theme. That Beethoven bloke used to do whole albums with the same bits of melody repeated over and over again, but at least he managed to stretch them out to more than thirty minutes. Sometimes he even got them to fit the maximum length of a CD exactly. That's dedication for you. A special interest film called "Student Nurse"? I think I might have seen that one. Mick, the Rockin' Berries had a handful of UK hits in 1965 (all cover versions) and peppered their otherwise fine records with novelty tunes like "The Laughing Policeman". It sounds like the people who compiled the record you found were confusing the Rockin' Berries with their label mates the Ivy League, because the other bands you mentioned are Ivy League offshoots. The keyboard player with the Flowerpot Men was Jon Lord, the guy out of Deep Purple. The rest of the band used to be in the Ivy League, and before that were session musicians who provided backing vocals on both The Who's debut single and also "It's Not Unusual" by Tom Jones. Kevan The Fat Slug *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Fri Apr 16 10:26:09 1999 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:26:09 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bowlie Chalets Message-ID: <37170231.4CBB9867@jeepster.co.uk> hi all, people have been asking how many keys you get to a chalet and we think the answer is two :) hope this helps. cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ ***we are moving on april 1st 1999!*** new postal address is po box 14153, london, sw11 4xu, u.k. tel: 0171 924 2324, fax: 0171 924 6161 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ailsa at xxx.com Fri Apr 16 11:16:07 1999 From: ailsa at xxx.com (Ailsa Ross) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 02:16:07 -0800 Subject: Sinister: More Glasgow drinking shenanigans Message-ID: Following the wash-out that was the Glasgow picnic, I was wondering if anyone wanted to do it all in miniature and in warmth tomorrow night, the excuse being the Salako and Sodastream gig at Nice and Sleazy's. I am going for a pint with the mysterious MS1996 in the Old Printworks in North Frederick Street and hereby extend an open invitation to other Sinsterettes to come and join us. I did put this on the noticeboard, but suddenly realised that no-one has noticed and if they have they have been keeping awfully quiet. http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/cgi-bin/mboard/belle/thread.cgi?129,4 if you are interested. Apologies if you are not. I had lots of interesting things I wanted to say but I can't remember what they are. Except that Kevan Cooke, I am terrified at the prospect of playing Trivial Pursuit with you at Bowlie :) Ailsa xx *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Fri Apr 16 11:42:32 1999 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MS1996) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:42:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: When Cameron was in Egypt land, let my Cameron go... Message-ID: <37171417.EFC84E39@cs.strath.ac.uk> Mr McMick wrote: > I was delighted to see Ferris Bueller's Day off in the list of movies > being shown, despite my financial inability to attend. Definately the > best teen flick of the 80's, in these eyes. Yeah, Bueller was good, but Some Kind Of Wonderful edges it for me. Sorry, I know the 80's teen movies thread was months ago but I don't care. Actually this gives me an excuse to go even further back to the mis-hearing of lyrics, as I used to think it was "Look at me, I'm on TV, it makes up for the shortcomings of being born" (as opposed to being poor) which I think is better, as it explains Anthea Turner. Hope to see one or two of you before (and/or at) Salako/Sodastream tomorrow. This is probably what we should have done last week (i.e. going straight to the pub and not having a picnic) as it was bound to rain, I mean it's Glasgow, for fucks sake. Still, it's not our fault, we were born shambling buffoons and that's the way we'll no doubt stay. By the way, if anyone knows who's organising the films at Bowlie, could they slip them a tenner and ask them not to put Annie Hall on at the same time as any decent bands? I think it's only fair that the Greatest Film Ever Made (TM) should be seen by as many people as possible. Cheers Alasdair xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peter.ramsdale at xxx.com Fri Apr 16 11:24:39 1999 From: peter.ramsdale at xxx.com (Pete Ramsdale) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:24:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: It'll be a heavy drive back east...... Message-ID: <37170FE7.2C23D08D@wdr.com> Oh no. God in heaven help us. Someone has mentioned the Drop Nineteens. Pete goes off on one..... Sorry Michelle - hope that last line didn't make you think that a no-holds-barred slagging was in the pipeline. In fact, quite the opposite - I have only ever really listened to one song by the Drop Nineteens, which is "Delaware". But, totally unbeknown to you, that one song means oh so very much. It was put on a tape for me by an ex-girlfriend - who is still (three-and-a-half incredibly mopey years later) the only woman I have ever loved. Well, apart from my mum, but she doesn't really count in this context, I guess). It's still one of the undoubted highlights of said piece of ferric craftsmanship, and probably will remain so. I love it: a long, laid-back, instrumental intro, followed by an exquisite break into slightly more upbeat tunesmanship with lyrics that, although I'm buggered if I can understand them, are very probably quite beautiful. Oh, yes - a band to be applauded, lauded, and, if the fancy takes you, anything else ending in 'auded'. Which brings me neatly to both the B&S content of this letter (not very bloody much, as usual), and a point of conversation that I would like to raise with the list. Is it just me (I really shouldn't begin with that as most of the time it simply elicits the ever-so-predictable answer of 'yes'), or has anybody else ever encountered the following: you've been given a tape with a certain song on it, and then you buy the album that the song has been lifted from. On listening to the album, you hear the tune in question. The tune ends, and you start singing the next song from the tape you've been given, and not the album. Thus making, if you are in company, what is commonly known in the business as a right tit of yourself. Oh, the amount of times I have unwittingly disappeared down that road. Mostly, so it happens, with 'Sleep the Clock Around', which is followed (in my mind at least) by "Ice Hockey Hair" by the Super Furries, and not 'Is it Wicked Not to Care' at all. Maybe I'm just Upton Park (two stops short of Barking, for those who don't live or work in London). At least they rhyme, I suppose. Support, piss-taking, or a whip round to get me committed to Colchester General Hospital mental patients wing will be gratefully accepted. Well, that's it for now. I'm going to retire to my rather plush, rubber-lined bedroom. cheerybye, p xx. -- ---------------------------*||*------------------------------ Life is full of regrets, and I've had a few, as Frank Sinatra once sang, before hiccuping loudly and falling over sideways. Pete Ramsdale - peter.ramsdale at wdr.com Phone: 0171 568 3836 ---------------------------*||*------------------------------ This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Fri Apr 16 11:07:38 1999 From: martin at xxx.uk (martin at xxx.uk) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:07:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Cliff, Una, Dairylea and me. Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990416100738.006e1f78@ampsys.co.uk> Hello, Sorry to bring up the Bowlie again to the non-believers, sorry I mean non-goers. But I don't think it will be an orgie of sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll after reading the Bowlie travel tips on the Jeepster website. It made me feel like I was going on a school trip which I thinks pretty cool. I couldn't find the attached slip to get my mummy and daddy to sign though. I also think the bring plenty of condoms advice is just so we can make funny shaped water balloons and throw them at each other which will be fun. I'm making sure I bring plenty of Dairylea as apparently that's the way to win friends and influence people in these sorts of situations. I also can't wait to get on the double decker bus there, I'm get all excited about singing "Summer Holiday" with Una Stubbs and a tub of Darylea... Anyway...real reason for posting is for someone to remind me what's going on next Thursday i.e pub in London pre-Bowlie event as I can't remember. My whole thought process has been taken over by cheesy Una Stubbs now. Martin P.S For those who can't remember... We're all goin' on a summer holiday. No more workin' for a week or two. Fun and laughter on our summer holiday. No more worries for me or you, For a week or two. We're goin' where the sun shines brightly. We're goin' where the sea is blue. We've seen it in the movies. Now let's see if it's true. Everybody needs a summer holiday. Doin' things they always wanted to. So we're goin' on a summer holiday To make our dreams come true, For me or you. We're goin' where the sun shines brightly. We're goin' where the sea is blue. We've seen it in the movies. Now let's see if it's true. - Sir Cliff (voted best new singer by the NME 1959) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Fri Apr 16 12:19:01 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:19:01 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Cliff, Una, Dairylea and me. In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990416100738.006e1f78@ampsys.co.uk> Message-ID: martin at send.demon.co.uk said: > Anyway...real reason for posting is for someone to remind me what's going > on next Thursday i.e pub in London pre-Bowlie event as I can't remember. My > whole thought process has been taken over by cheesy Una Stubbs now. As part of my girl's guide service, a pointer to where Pam told us all about it: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/cgi-local/archive.cgi?month=199903&msg=00361 (apologies for WWW site archive reader people, the link to this gets screwed up, just cut 'n' paste until I get out my tools and fix it). And a summary: thursday, april 22, 7:30pm upstairs at the betsey trotwood pub 56 farringdon road, farringdon tube �3 only to witness and hear the now! sounds of: Harvey Williams Piezoelectric Unit featuring the Duke of Harringay Jim Shepherd Plus I hear our very own Christopher Leonard playing his melons, and countless other Sinistereenies who have got in on the act. [old joke warning] I'll be humming "My Boy LolliP!O!P!" quietly from the back row as an ambient Eno-esque backing to Duke's reading. But shh! don't tell him. honey x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Fri Apr 16 12:44:14 1999 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:44:14 +0100 () Subject: Sinister: the alternative bowlie Message-ID: una stubbs and a tub of dairylea? the mind boggles. i think i'm glad i'm not going to camber sands, which seems to get more corrupt every day, turning into a majorette-infested, doctorwho-haunted, schooltrip-parodying, debauched cardie swapping den of iniquity. instead i intend to spend the weekend playing my cds of b&s, mercury rev, the delgados, the divine comedy etc, having first erected a little stage in my bedroom on which i will artistically arrange my little stuart and isobel dolls made out of yoghurt pots. i'm making stu's silver trousers right now, out of foil. then i'll just lie on my back and look at the glow stars on my ceiling and pretend they're real, and then retire to my imaginary chalet (to which i will have my own key, ha!) and have a pillow fight with myself before falling asleep unsullied by rampaging hordes of twee drunkards. perfect. if anyone wants to join me, there are still tickets available for a very reasonable price. you can leave your condoms at home though, none of that in MY chalets. i often sing the song which comes next on a compilation tape rather than the album too, but it doesn't stop there. i frequently start singing a completed unrelated song whose connection to the proceeding one exists only in my head, thus looking like a loony as well as a tit. right, back to my feminist deconstruction of the modern canon. rah! luv archel xxx ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth do something pretty while you can don't be afraid rap101 at york.ac.uk skating a pirouette on ice is cool http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Fri Apr 16 13:44:21 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:44:21 EDT Subject: Sinister: It'll be a heavy drive back east...... Message-ID: In a message dated 4/16/99 6:57:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, peter.ramsdale at wdr.com writes: << Is it just me (I really shouldn't begin with that as most of the time it simply elicits the ever-so-predictable answer of 'yes'), or has anybody else ever encountered the following: you've been given a tape with a certain song on it, and then you buy the album that the song has been lifted from. On listening to the album, you hear the tune in question. The tune ends, and you start singing the next song from the tape you've been given, and not the album. Thus making, if you are in company, what is commonly known in the business as a right tit of yourself. Oh, the amount of times I have unwittingly disappeared down that road. >> I'll voice public support by saying, yes yes yes, i have done that very thing. and a right tit describes exactly what I was. I feel like we should form a sub-group in the mailing list for this, as I was deeply traumatized and to this day, i pause after a song like that plays, just because i don't want to fuck up and sing the wrong tune after it. This is most often the case with brit-pop, as my friend erin made me two tapes that alternated hit groups like spiritualized, blur, and pulp with hard rockin girl bands like Huggy Bear or Sleater-kinney. Shrieking "surf song" isn't what i would call the best follow up to "sorted out for e's and whizz" ok, that's enough of that dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Fri Apr 16 13:34:29 1999 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (weejay) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:34:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Not arms of sex. Message-ID: <199904161227.NAA23861@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> Isn't Student Nurse a song by the Yummy Fur? (he pauses for laughs. There are none.) Oh well, I hope you're all in joyful anticipation of Bowlie... I'm not going of course but you then again the thought of bumping into Fluffy or Keith or even Honey scares me so much i'd probably hide in my chalet the whole time like sensitive stan :) Next weekend is it? Welllll.... If you want some pre-show entertainment, my friends and debtors $tolen Grand are playing their debut gig in the uni here on the friday night in the union bar. By the Uni I mean of course Southampton Institute, which is only, ooooh, 40 miles or so from the site itself. On the other hand, I wouldn't bother if I were you, it won't be much fun. And I still like the looper album, say what you will, I love all the songs on it (well, I just quite like burning flies but lets not split hairs over this) and they don't really sound the same at all. I hope you don't listen to an album and think 'Am I getting value for money here?' because that always spoils it. Turn of the lights and lie on your bed with it on headphones. Thats the only way. Since we can't rule out cheating with the 1000th member, maybe we should have a competition involving watching the page and subscribing when it gets to 999. Or has it already? Just checking... No, we can still do it. Maybe we can crash the network! We can but try ;) Oh, and finally, that title... Well, I was dancing with quite a nice girl at a nightclub last night, to 'Little Baby Nothing' by the Manics as it happens, and after a couple of miniutes I noticed she had lots of little while scars all down one arm. Well, ewwww..... have fun! weejay xxxxxxxxxxxxxx. Blue Glow is now at http://diskant.future.easyspace.com/blueglow/ (This network is as sick as a dog. If you can't get through try maleslut at chickmail.com instead) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Fri Apr 16 13:44:33 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:44:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Can you tell I get the digest then? Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E225F1AF5@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Sensimiller said: > I vote for "I nambled and pambled with Isobel Campbell". > [Mark Casarotto] Can I add my vote for the above too? Thank'ee. he then added: > Does that mean he wasn't wearing underpants? If not, did his goolies > fall out when he put his foot up on the "white traffic bollard"? No > wonder Mister Jones was taken aback.... > [Mark Casarotto] Perhaps "white traffic bollard" is a none-too-subtle reference to precisely what PJ was worrying about... Robin said: > > Talking of organs > [Mark Casarotto] Are we? Fab! Honey then burbled: > Travel > Scrabble. > [Mark Casarotto] Travel Yahtzee, mate, that's where it's at. There's bound to be a huge travel Yahtzee tournament round our chalet (oh yes - if David K tries to hustle you at Connect Four, REFUSE as he actually invented it and he knows all the cheat codes. Though if you still insist on risking it for a biscuit, email me and I'll send you a wee Connect Four computer programme so's you can practice). Mick ruminated: > Hm, I find myself wondering something: if the Gentle Waves have a > flute, etc. player, does this mean we can expect her to lend her > flauting skills to the next B&S record? I certainly hope so. None in a > number of various instrument solos has ever quite matched that flute > solo in "Belle & Sebastian." Really, I mean that, it's really great. I > found myself liking flute solos from then on, and since that wasn't a > B&S member playing, we've all been deprived of flute solos post-Dog on > Wheels. > [Mark Casarotto] Whenever my chums and I get together to, ahem, jam, I do the flutey parts, which mean I always have to pester for We Rool the Skool and Mary Jo. I want more flute too - it's nice. A groovy kind of love, Mark xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Fri Apr 16 14:00:33 1999 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:00:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bowlie Chalets Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB6901AC29@PARK_EX> Two Keys per Chalet!!!!! They're having a laff aren't they. How are 6 or 7 grown people meant to cope. I'm going with 5 people I don't know from Adam. What if they all disappear? What if they all go to bed at half eleven and I'm banging on the door at 4.20 in the morning cos I've been dancing the night away. I'm sure the last time I went to Butlins (about 8 years ago) we had a key each and I was only 16 then (and clumsy and shy, obviously), so surely they can run to a couple more each. It's either that or pushing the key into a bar of soap and finding a dodgy key cutting emporium in Rye. Chris Butler said: >Lurkers unite! [ My only weakness is a list of rhymes ] which is but one example of Sm*ths lyrics (ish) creeping in to the list over the last few days (i know I've just done it too), which is all well and good, but I find myself singing the song for the rest of the day, in my M*rrissey voice (ie a rather strangulated whine), which makes everyone else in the office look at me and point, so if we could please try and stop (at least until I get my own office). With regards to Ferris and his day off, although this is an ace 80's moment it pales in comparison with the triumverate of Pretty in Pink The Breakfast Club & St Elmo's Fire Oh god, I'm back to 16, clumsy and shy again. See (some of) you next weekend, xoxo CarsmileSteve ---------------------------------------------- carsmilesteve at geocities.com visit our website http://fast.to/carsmile for your !F!R!E!E! demo tape 'So tell me what have you got? So tell me have I lost the plot?' +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Fri Apr 16 15:52:57 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 07:52:57 PDT Subject: Sinister: he`ll be dancing in a cage,at bowlie (this is really about movies) Message-ID: <19990416145259.21390.qmail@hotmail.com> ho ho ho, i was supposd to see either Central Station or The School Of Flesh today,but i can`t,and i wonder about movies and about the movies that will be shown at Bowlie. I haven`t seen any of those movies except for Dazed and Confused..one thing bothers me about that movie,you know the L`oreal model, Milla? (dont buy that Le Grand Curl stuff girls and boys,i hear it dont work) well shes in it,as this big star,and does she do ANYTHING in that movie? shes only on screen for like 5 minutes. Why is it `starring Milla` ? I have wanted to see Gregory`s Girl for a while,but that movie must not exist up here---sorry if I`m embarrassing you keith,but is it really you as the boy in the movie?!?! sigh,i want to be a movie star,(or a ballerina,or a world cup soccer champion)i`ve only done one thing for television though...it was on cable. I danced around in leotards and read poetry,very dramatically from `The Jellicle Cats` VERY cool. those short documentaries sound a little strange `What is Happening to the Hovercraft`? i was watching this thing on fatness on Witness,the liposuction thing frightened me,and how come in english schools for gym they get to do BALLET?? all we get here is dodgeball (most of the time) my mom assured me not all the schools are like that,but gosh..how cute and educated the little british kids sound,they`re like 5 and they can speak better than me. why cant i be aritculate! i wont offer sexual favours to get a ticket to Bowlie,but my friend Gunther will.I will clean and cook though,and make cream puffs. Gunther will even do those `phhtttt!` things on your belly button that tickle oh so much! He knows reflexology as well. wink wink, gunther`s special pal ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Fri Apr 16 16:15:08 1999 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksAndAJill) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:15:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Scottish cheese Message-ID: <199904161515.LAA93860@dept.english.upenn.edu> No B&S content whatsoever, and proud of it. Hey, at least I'm not bitter that I'm not over in England right now having fun (possibly of the naughty nature) in a chalet, anticipating a few days' music-watching...I'm forwarding this b/c I found it amusing and you all may as well. Behold the power of cheese. Beholden, Xavier > -- > james mcintyre (1827-1906) was a scottish immigrant to ontario, canada. > he was a poet who wrote mainly on cheese-- that is, on the subject of > cheese, not _on_ cheese (but if you read his work, you'll find it almost > as odd). > check out this page for more: http://www.inforamp.net/~ihooker/index.html > ----->peter > ps here's a stanza from his "ode on the mammoth cheese" to whet you > cheese appetite: > We have seen thee, queen of cheese, > Lying quietly at your ease, > Gently fanned by evening breeze, > Thy fair form no flies dare seize. > > -- > BXK M o t h e r , M a y > bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu I S l e e p > http://www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 W i t h D a n g e r ? > X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X > -- BXK M o t h e r , M a y bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu I S l e e p http://www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 W i t h D a n g e r ? X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Fri Apr 16 16:28:21 1999 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Fluffy Sarah) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:28:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: try me out, yes baby, try me out, just take a chance on me cos i wanna be yours. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: fog on the tyne, fog on the tyne, i like to wrap, it all up in twine. Hi! We had a singing day today at college, some people downstairs were busking to raise money for Kosovo. I paid one lot some money to shut the fuck up! One college band played LET IT BE by the Beatles which was dead orginal and sung dead well. Then we all sang along to POWER OF LOVE and that song by Sea-Lion Dion which isn't about a ship dying or something I've not seen Titanic so I don't know! Miller your spanish was RIGHT! I got 39 out of 45 on my test, yes you may all worship me. UNFORTUNATELY I don't know the results of my final paper becaaaause....our college went on fire! Someone was burning the costumes in theatre studies! How fab is that? We all had to EVACUATE till the fire service said we could go back in! Me, I went home. Rah! Why do I always get on the bus with the wankers and trendy arses who suddenly shout out, you know mens private parts, well what are the sensitive bits, do me a picture cos I'm going to wank my boyfriend at the weekend and make sure he likes it! URGH! I mean for crying out loud do we WANT to know??? Fucking freaks! No-one wants to know! Thats why I thought I'd tell 995 of you. Heh heh! Honey: >Starry seems to be selling video stills of the >rude three-in-a-bed bits. While stocks last, folks. Starry means me folks. And yes, give me 50 pee and I'll tell you where the THREESOME stills are. You can see sexy Stuart (??) from Queer as Folk contorted up in constipation with two other men (I can't think why else he would moan so much) and get addicted to Queer as Folk and write to Channel 4 and get another series..but that would ruin it...ok, you can buy me the video which comes out third of may and the album as well. Which is 11.46 quid if you ONLINE SHOP which I can't DO CHIZ at: http://www.gayguide.co.uk/queerasfolk/album.htm Do you need a credit card to online shop or can you just have a cashcard or what? Switch or something? heck I don't know. And I think David Kitchen is most rude, he hasn't even contacted me to tell me how much he is paying me for my exclusive tshirt slogans yet. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Sarah +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Fri Apr 16 16:45:26 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:45:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Big city, bright lights, cool, cool people Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E225F1AFD@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Oh fuck it, I haven't done any work today anyway... > Were going to Manchester, Bournemouth > and London of course. > [Mark Casarotto] Becky, is the Bournemouth bit to see an ailing relative or something? I suppose bits of it are quite nice, but for real kicks for chicks, get yourself to Royal Leamington Spa, Jewel of the West Midlands (and it has JaMeS in it). Or Hull. > Now er are wondering, may it be a sinsiter meet up?? Can we have a > blast?? Does anyone know any cheap places in London to saty in?? > [Mark Casarotto] Bound to be, my friend, bound to be. And if you're after somewhere to satay, there's a chain of Mongolian barbecue restaurants, who used to do all you can eat for 9 quid or something. Boom, and indeed, boom. Kevan and his flaxen hair said: > Is there something wrong with the page that lists the Bowlie line-up? > The bottom of the page doesn't seem to be loading, the bit where it > says that Roolz will be there. > [Mark Casarotto] Yes, I noticed that, too. Perhaps they're the impromptu set in the Queen Vic that David promised in the Bowie details. Or perhaps that's where Bowie himself is playing - I didn't see his name in the line up either. Rock on, Starman! > A special interest film called "Student Nurse"? I think I might have > seen that one. > [Mark Casarotto] I've got the vid Kevan, you can watch it in the chalet if you like, um, when the girls are asleep... Katrina chipped in: > people have been asking how many keys you get to a chalet and we think > the answer is two :) > [Mark Casarotto] Fuck. Fucky fuck. If anyone can bring a mobile key-cutting service I'll give them my spare Gentle Waves badge. [Mark Casarotto] Pete added: > you've been given a tape with a certain song on > it, and then you buy the album that the song has been > lifted from. On listening to the album, you hear the tune > in question. The tune ends, and you start singing the next > song from the tape you've been given, and not the album. > [Mark Casarotto] I have a bigger problem with songs that have been taped with me which have jumps and skips in them thanks to the well-lovedness of the original vinyl, which leads to embarrassing premature commencement of the chorus and a rather bizarre interpretation of the words. Hate My Way by Throwing Muses is about 20 seconds longer in real life than on my tape, but cos I fell in love with it in crackly form, I kind of prefer the jumps nowadays :) Steve posited: > With regards to Ferris and his day off, although this is an ace 80's > moment > it pales in comparison with > [Mark Casarotto] (sorry Steve :)) National Lampoon's Animal House. This is an unarguable fact, like those big numbers you get on calculators which help you calculate the mass of the universe or something (did you know that 90% of the matter in the universe is unnaccounted for? I have a few pet theories as to what it could be, but I'll shut up, I think). How Tom Hulce hasn't got an Oscar on his mantlepiece for his sensitive portrayal of - oh bollocks, I can't remember his fraternity name - well, anyway, it's a travesty. Which reminds me - has anyone on this list actually been a frat boy? What's it like? What was your name? What did you have to do for initiation? Did you spy on nudie girls through dorm windows? Tell me more! God, I do go on, don't I... But seriously, Mark xxx > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From funkyseb at xxx.com Fri Apr 16 17:40:01 1999 From: funkyseb at xxx.com (funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 99 17:40:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I'm going to spill my load (of joy, that is..) Message-ID: Yo! you twee motherf*ckers! Dem bus stories what you sent waz def, and well wicked. 'nuf respect! Me is gonna rite me a up chillin' script 'bout dem what will be massive in a Spike Jones stylee. Big up da sinister massive! God that was shit wasn't it? Certainly not as good as Ali G on that 11 o clock show, which is officially the funniest thing on at 11 o clock this week. Anyway, I loved reading all those stories, especially the one where the boy and girl spoke to each other on the bus and ended up going out.Ahhh!! More please! I can only apologise for all of today's exclamation marks, I put it down to the fact that I'm at work, and starting to trip on paint fumes.... gag gag cough splutter sick etc. I'm scared of Bowlie now I think. I think I might just die the moment I see the bowlie bus gleaming at Victoria, too much anticipation, too much... anyone else scared that they'll just burst all over Wilton Street next Friday? And Gregory's girl too! I mean, either Stuart Nancy and Lee Murdoch is a cynical businessman who's done a lot of market research, or the man is even ovlier than I thought.... anyway, I'm off to see sodastream. Night night, seb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Fri Apr 16 18:55:41 1999 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:55:41 -0400 Subject: Sinister: invasion from mars: interplanetary stories Message-ID: <000601be8832$7389b6e0$651e05d1@tinystar> aloha you sweet things, wheee! it's raining today and much less chilly than other days, so of course i had to run outside and roll my pants up to my knees and jump in the puddles barefoot. but then the postman came and gave me a puzzled look, so i retreived my mail and went inside. the bottoms of my feet are dirty from the pavement. or it could be dirt. whatever. i would like to point out that i am not offering sexual favours (unless you're the roolz boys - oh, how i love boy bands) in exchange for a bowlie ticket, but i have included an easy-to-read-and-compare list of reasons you should all splurge for me. on a *ticket*, kids. minds out of the gutter. - own both travel scrabble and travel yahtzee - have wonderful lock-picking abilities (to overcome the 2-key problem) - have gold stars which are given to good boys and girls - will not talk through the movies or throw popcorn at the screen - will bring cases of coveted kraft dinner - will bring cases of coveted jell-o desserts - can pick up duty-free liquor at the airport - own a nurse's uniform (for 'student nurse' fun) - have a very twee fear of pigeons - will bring barry white album for 'love sweet love' atmosphere and although my maths aren't very good, i've managed to figure out that if each and every one of the 19 people that voted for me on the list crush poll would each send $25, then we'd all be happier and i'd be seeing you in bowlie. < s i g h > on to more realistic things... i've read the may select b+s article (after carefully removing the dusty springfield poster and gazing at brett anderson's lovely trousers), i must say that i got quite the little thrill seeing stevie trousers and the duke and list mummy honey quoted. the best part? when asked what went on in the sinister chat room... "smut. there's always a lot of smut..." as much as i enjoyed that, it meant that i couldn't let my mum read the article. she saw me carrying it around, this was before i read any of it, and i mentioned that there was a big article on belle and sebastian and the sinister list, and she said "oh good, now maybe i'll understand why you have to subscribe to a mailing list about only one band." something tells me she'd understand even less if she read about them, and that i'd be net nannied to death over the smut mention. however, i did quite enjoy "belle and sebastian fans are not totally normal." i'm crossing my fingers that they'll have a feature on stuart murdoch's room. i can only imagine what fun it would be. love, jessicaxo * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * someone had spied on us, i suppose, as we sat beside the canal and ate the sandwiches, drinking not even orangeade or coca-cola but hot milk out of a thermos. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * t i n y s t a r @ w o r l d y . c o m (it's lovely being a girl) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Fri Apr 16 19:04:17 1999 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:04:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: bitter? oh, you don't even know.... Message-ID: hi kids here i come, bouncing out of my faux fur lined cave to tell you all about the non-existant excitement in my life. well, that's not totally true, there are some good bits, though right now i'm busy on not so exciting things. but whatever. i think we should have a nonbowlie chatup in the chat room with genevieve and peter miller and who else? i'm trying to remember who all's coming. of course, mr miller would have to *come* to chat. right now, i tend to believe that he's a figment of my imagination. though how exactly i would dream him up, i'm not entirely sure. and i guess he'd have to be something of a mass halluicnation, but oh well. about teen movies, i guess everyone has favorites, but some kind of wonderful? pardon me while i BARF. ew, ew. i like ferris a lot still. the breakfast club kind of loses it's allure as i get older. i think the best teen movies are fast times at ridgemont high, valley girl, and heathers. i hope that ends any arguement. ;p now i want to make an important request. everyone who i know who goes to bowlie needs to bring me a present. and there are a lot of you. if i suffer, at least i want material gain by the end of it. my number one choice is the bowlie weekender: after dark which apparently brian is working on. condoms and women's sanitary bits will figure into them. which i hope none of you are ashamed of buying. um, enough repeated jokes and in jokes which can only be understood by myself. which is happening more and more often lately. do you ever wonder how to tell if you're going insane? xoxoox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu who are magnetic fields? http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ updated 4/3/99 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From editor at xxx.uk Fri Apr 16 17:04:29 1999 From: editor at xxx.uk (duke of harringay) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:04:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: holing up in dawlish References: Message-ID: <37175F8D.FA9C1C32@tangents.co.uk> you may have heard that the groop we all like to call pretty much anything BUT belle & sebastian were holed up someplace 'preparing' for the bowlie weekendah, ... well i am here to tell you that the place they are doing the holing is in fact Dawlish in sunny Devon. So it's a longish way from Camber Sands, but it IS by the seaside and they do have lots of black swans. You might think at this point that the duke has really lost his marbles, but NO! i have the proof. admitedlly this proof is called my eye-sight, but i insist that it never lies, and that this morning, that's THIS morning (friday), who should i spy on Dawlish sea front but a rather bleary eyed Struan Murdoch. I mean it kids, it really was him, he was sitting there wearing a grubby anorak, red mane blowing in the light sea breeze, sharing a can of superlager with his old mate, who, if you looked at him from the right angle could easily have been Vic Godard. i knew it wasn't Vic though cos he didn't have his mail sack with him. i didn't speak to Struan because he had the Mad Dog Murdoch look in his eye, and i didn't want him to know i knew his real identity, but it was him, i swear. i saw the gentle waves record in HMV the other day. there were loads of them, all lined up next to some mercury rev import records. i picked one up, looked at it and put it back again. i don't expect it to be very good really... i listened to the 7" twice and on both times it sounded less than perfect. actually it sounded less that crap, but that's just me and my dreary opinions. didn't someone say somewhere it sounded like the rosehips? well it does. and that's not a good thing. so when i was in hmv i bought Pole 2 and the Black Star record instead. both are fine recordings. Honey wrote: > warning> I'll be humming "My Boy LolliP!O!P!" quietly from the back > row as an ambient Eno-esque backing to Duke's reading. But shh! > don't tell him. i'll be listening out for that one boy... don't test my classroom management skills. you have been warned. actually i think that honey must have had a sneak preview of the ballad of the duke of harringay... either that or i am horribly one-dimensional, transparent and unimaginative. scary either way.... i shall bugger off and leave you all now. keep the faith, the duke ------------------------------------------ 'what's the name they call ones like us?' ------------------------------------------ Tangents On-Line http://www.tangents.co.uk PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK editor at tangents.co.uk ------------------------------------------ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Fri Apr 16 23:54:05 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:54:05 PDT Subject: Sinister: imagination is a good thing,better than math skills Message-ID: <19990416225416.88339.qmail@hotmail.com> >From: "Gunther Uterhaus" >To: pookie59 at hotmail.com >Subject: Help,i can`t send mail,send it for me. > Dear Sinister List, > > I have been lurking for many a moon now,but I feel now I have the > courage to post.I dip my toe into the Sinister pond for the very >first > time > > what a delicious feeling...look,look at them there,all the little > ripples I am causing,I am full of love for you all.Like a >watermelon. > > I`m going to Bowlie,does anyone want to meet up? If so,contact >me. Oh,you don`t know what I look like.Here is a picture of me at http://www.woldmueller.de/ilona.htm i`m in the third picture,closest to the right.Who`s that guy leaning on me? I don`t know! I`m a crazy guy! People lean on me all the time.I let you too.The girls on the left are my girlfriends (yes,i have two)I`ll be wearing lederhosen at Bowlie.I`m not putting a Sinister badge upside down.I am putting many on my bottom that makes the form of a happy face. I don`t think we should be worrying about the keys situation,i was discussing this with a friend who is unfortunate not > to go,and she went "Boo hoo hoo,cry me a fecking river" Ladies >should not be so rude,but she puts her elbows up on the dinner table as well. > > I am much excite by the prospect of these special interest >films.More > than the bands actually,tee hee! (shhh,dont tell stuart) > I am all alone in my Bowlie chalet,but you can get down with me,I am bringing lots of soda-pop,so who needs drugs? > I think Student Nurse is ok,but it`s been done. I have a Hawaiian > dancer costume,anyone want to do the horizontal hula with me? ha ha ha,get it? much sexy. I like the Hovercraft idea.I have hairy legs. > > T.T.F.N (ta ta for now,ha ha!) > G.U. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood Fri Apr 16 19:08:22 1999 From: Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood (Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood) Date: 16 Apr 1999 18:08:22 GMT Subject: Sinister: Re: Bowlie Tickets Message-ID: <209580030.215115894@andyclin.exnet.com> Hi, All! Are these Bowlie tickets scarce? You see I now have three spares (mates cancelled) and am wondering whether to let (other) mates have them on the cheap, or risk leaving it to sell them on the day and hopefully get their face value! So if anyone's looking for tickets, email me soon! Of course the downside is that you'd have to share a chalet with my good self! I hear from the Cardiff ticket agency that the Gentle Waves gig is not about to be re-scheduled, so I'll sadly be sending back my ticket for a refund (It's a good month for unused tickets) (or do you think in a few years the ticket may be worth more than its face value as a collector's item?) Looking forward to Bowlie! Cheers! Rocker rocker at andyclin.exnet.com P.S. I only access my email every couple of days, so don't worry if it takes a while for me to reply! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From s_daigle at xxx.com Sat Apr 17 13:40:53 1999 From: s_daigle at xxx.com (The Stoat) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 99 08:40:53 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Tune It! Message-ID: <199904171240.GAA20260@turtle.esosoft.net> I just picked up a copy of "Up a Tree" this week, and have been listening to it quite a bit. I like it. It's not [Insert Name of Your All-Time Favortie Album Here], but it's whimsical. And I like the use of the "idee fixe" - it helps to tie it all together. BUT - my biggest complaint/criticism has to do with the out-of-tune instruments on "Quiet and Small." It's a pleasant enough song. I just wish some time had been taken to tune the instruments before it was recorded. I've heard that out-of-tune playing and singing can sometimes be used as an expressive device, but I'm not sure that this is what's happening here. As for the B&S content of this message - the same can be said for "The Boy Done Wrong Again." Great song, but the intonation does tend to set the teeth on edge, doesn't it? andrew +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alix.campbell at xxx.net Sat Apr 17 19:28:06 1999 From: alix.campbell at xxx.net (Alix Campbell) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 19:28:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: token effort Message-ID: <013b01be8900$37e96300$7e3ea8c2@big-comp> hello i have a problem. bus drivers keep talking to me. they never used to, and now they strike up conversations. today one said 'do you recognise me?' and i said no. turns out he drives tractors at the farm down the road from my house. what he was doing on a bus is beyond me (do not say 'driving it', please, that wouldn't be funny) earlier this week i got asked 'what do you know, gal?' they won't leave me alone. i may buy a bike. > A special interest film called "Student Nurse"? I think I might have > seen that one. > >Mark Casarotto] I've got the vid Kevan, you can watch it in the >chalet if you like, um, when the girls are asleep... that's not fair, mark. i think i shall sulk. anyway, kevan will be busy with his mudwrestling. is it illegal to sell dutyfree cigarettes? hypothetically if someone were to sell me 20 marlboro lights for £3, would they be breaking the Law? actually, i don't care, don't bother answering that, it's dull. anyway, with bowlie creeeping up on us like a listee with only a few days left in the nursery (never could do metaphors, or whatever they're called), i am almost wetting myself in anticipation. as opposed to a weak bladder. that wouldn't be savoury at all. anyway, i still have nothing to say. oh, thankyou anyone what bought me a drink friday night. love alix +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rachel at xxx.uk Sat Apr 17 21:08:18 1999 From: rachel at xxx.uk (rachel tucker) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:08:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: not going to bowlie sucks Message-ID: <001b01be890e$33134180$a14e883e@pre-installedco> umm....hi after waiting impatiently for what seems like forever for my nursery graduation, i've come over dead scared of actually posting. i spent an hour last night after receiving 'the call' debating whether to merely continue my lurkership or not, but i figured i should send something even if it's just the once. i suppose i still find this whole e-mail/internet thing a bit freaky. i am one of the original technophobes, something which was confirmed when i received my virgin message back today cos i forgot to put it in plain text! stupidly i then managed to delete my original message so i couldn't send it back and am now writing it again. doh! anyway, i'm not going to bowlie because, as my dad always annoyingly points out: importance and enjoyment just aren't the same thing. unfortunately the oxford norwich match is more important, but nowhere near as enjoyable. in fact, probably shit. i'd just like to add my own bus story before i go and think about stu m and those tubs of dairylea to cheer myself up: a couple of years ago a guy in a big mac sat across the aisle from me on the no.52. he looked like your average flasher/pervert, so i was intrigued when he rummaged in his bag and got out..... a yoghurt. he stroked the tub for a bit and then slowly unbuttonned his coat. i was definitely fearing the worst by this stage until i saw what was sewn into the lining... inside pockets filled with....... rows and rows of plastic cuttlery!!! he then proceeded to eat FIVE yoghurts, each with a different spoon which he licked clean before putting it back in his coat! man, it was weird. anyway, i've bored you enough now. you never know, i might be back! if not, have a fab bowlie :) lots of love rachel xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Sat Apr 17 22:26:23 1999 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 14:26:23 -0700 Subject: Sinister: another long and disjointed update on nothing Message-ID: <00a101be8918$f269e840$0b11020a@rebelstrange> >From: Simon Ludlam Subject: Sinister: bra(t) pack John Hughes = waste of celluloid aye, lad, i'd have to second you on that one--being probably the only person i know of under 30 who isn't familiar with those movies. admittedly i have seen ferris day off when i was a gell, but all the other ones i'm clueless about, and thankfully. Genevieve, do you ahve a tape of your Jellicle cats leotard dance? that sounds wellll surreal. wowee wow. who did the jellicle cats, was it TS Eliot, or that other guy?? sorry i forget things like that. I'll namble and pamble with isobel campbell, any old day. now we should find rhymes for ahh all the other members, like burdock (isn't that a weed of some sort) for Murdoch, and martin should be easy to rhyme. or course, in the action with STUDLY stevie jackson. I made a funny cartoon the other day with stuart in it. but it's a mystery. i'm not telling what it's about. NOW onto the subject of Donovan. mysteriously, i found a donovan 45 in this stack of old records i have from my grandparent's house a long time ago.....among the treasures being lovely things like the "Kac-Ties" the "Four Lads" mary hopkins, nancy sinatra, petula clark, and the 5th dimension, as well as some very nice rolling stones songs from when they were young and cheesy, and much better. but at any rate, the donovan single is "Aye my Love/Lalena". i was curious since i'd heard ppl say stuart sings like donovan. aye, my love, that he does. it's quite a comparison, except that stuart doesn't do that rather nasty vibrato thing at the end of each line that the D-meister does, which is a bit grating, but the songs are terrific. they have Strings, Flutey Mary-Jo solos (come and get it boys!) and wispy, wistful vocals like "La-di-da" and stuff about despair and loneliness and what not. actually "Lalena' is a pretty good couterpart to Mary JO, the theme is quite similar. "that's your lot in life, Lalena" (note: the n in lalena is pronounced as in spanish: enyay) i was extremely overjoyed. it made my day, which tells you how sad that particular day is. bxk--we always looking for some good cheese poetry. je suis fromage. AUUGHHHH why is cheese funny? for that matter, why are lesbians funny? and Nuns. nuns are funny. why?? Mommy--I wanna be a MTV VJ too. that would be a corker....me playing pjharveys' Mansize and Is It Wicked 24-7, and moping about trying to be all girly and loud in my camisole tops. a ctually it would be incredibly boring, wouldn't it. always at the mtv studios with idiots like carson daly, giving empty kudos to TLC and Collective Soul and uh 3rd Eye blind. i think i would get bored of it after a week, and just stay home to paint pictures or something. when would you have time to go horseback riding, or sit alone in solitude with Pussy Power? i knwo one thing, i'd play sleater-kinneys new video constantly. (in any case, kids in America, i've got my VJ picked out, can you guess who it is? i'm so wrong. is it wicked to idly glance at the tv screen on a BORING saturday afternoon????) i want my Fierce Tidals records!!! it will be so lovely. guess what, i have a set list. i did a performance last week. i felt so proud writing down my list to have before me, just like a famous rawk star like isobel, let's see should i do is it wicked right before kinky love? oh deary me. it was very much fun. i'm almost proud enough now to sing a song in public. (ouch!) wait for my indie pink viny 7" with my band, My Sweet Bread Toaster, coming soon anyone else admitting a guilty pleasure for that Hit Single "kiss me" by sixpencenonethericher? even though it was put into a totally EVIL movie, that girl singer is so mousy and adorable. if anyone cares, my crush said bye to me yesterday. that was a big occasion for me. just pat me on the head and humor me and go on your way. exhibitionist for the shy, Miss Helen Furr(of the decidedly non-flat abdomen) (LJ) http://www.members.tripod.com/rebelstrange The boat that brings us here will crack beneath your weight. This is territory you cannot invade. "I'll go and play with words and pictures" SAVE MST3K!!!! http://www.mst3kinfo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Sat Apr 17 21:18:44 1999 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake E. Hamilton) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 16:18:44 -0400 Subject: Sinister: lovesick on a sunny afternoon... Message-ID: <001101be890f$7e81c0a0$304e1198@wfu.edu> Well, for sure, it's not sunny this day--it's more of a neurotic grey fuzz that sort of slides all over the horizon. It's strangely invigorating--much like badly made war flicks. I am writing for if anyone does remember my dilemma with the girl with the fiery gown, well it was furthered yesterday as a group of my lads and i (including my younger, but equally disturbed and shy brother) visited the restaurant where my favorite girl works. A bad part about having a huge crush on someone in the food and beverage industry, is that it gets worse when their restaurant is really popular. Oh how sad it gets. The opportunities for dialogue are few, if any. Thusly, she is always so busy, and running around the place, though i do believe her feet don't touch the ground, for it's a simple hovering/goddess maneuver. Well to get to the point, we couldn't bring ourselves to stop her running around and randomly say, "you look mighty charming today, may I ask you to sit and have a coffee with me?". Though I wish it was possible, it was not, however. Upon seeing her the first time earlier this week, I made a guess at her name. I stated that she looked much like an Elizabeth--oh how I truly love that name, and all its various variations. Well, upon leaving last night, a chap of mine had the true courage to ask our waiter what her name was. "Excuse me, could you tell me what that hostess' name is, the one in the deep blue dress?" "Oh, that would be Beth, Beth Currasco" And at that, I simply smiled and walked out, lightly looking back at her and smiling. I don't believe she saw me, however. My friends and I just stood in the parking lot, them in awe at me for guessing her name, and me in shock that I had walked out of the restaurant without muttering a word. So now, I'm back at point A. Though I'd really love to ask her to sit down and chat, I don't believe I have that freedom. I hardly slept last night, love's hands around my neck, its knuckles white and relentless. So I thought I'd write her a letter, sounds reasonable right? Well I think the man said her name wrong (it's definitely Italian-based), so we sat, brainstorming, Caruso, Carrisimo, et al. Stumped we were. So now I have no clues, no avenues, no streets to walk happily down. Sorry for the rant, may all your days be saturated with fiery bliss. always, blake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From editor at xxx.uk Sat Apr 17 22:43:21 1999 From: editor at xxx.uk (duke of harringay) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 22:43:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: the light and beauty that is easy for such faces and graces References: <001101be890f$7e81c0a0$304e1198@wfu.edu> Message-ID: <37190079.24C8BFC9@tangents.co.uk> "Blake E. Hamilton" wrote: > "Oh, that would be Beth, Beth Currasco" hey, i know Beth. she used to turn tables round in the Clubhouse bar, before they closed it down. i used to go in and talk to her nights, she had this dress shot through with silver thread. i tell you it's true, it's the same girl. i always found that 'hello beth, my name is [insert nom de plumme here]. how are you?' worked well. but hey, what do i know? what was it the media were trying to say about belle and sebastian fans? something about them being shy and retiring and something else? couldn't talk to hostesses? that must have been it. sorry, i don't mean to be mean... i know the score. been there, done that, hopefully will never do it again too. write her a poem on a table napkin. or some of stuarts lyrics if you want... worked for me in New Orleans, but that's another story entirely. attentive long term readers will remember that this time last year i was sending you all mail from a room in a Cornish hotel. this year it is from my trusty back room... we just tried to have a party but the duchess got ill and so now it is a non party, i am here typing this and the duchess is downstairs feeling poorly. the duchess is watching something on cable and i am listening to Spies of Rota by Appliance. it is very good, naturally. we don't seem to have very much luck with parties in this house. a couple of years ago our next door neighbour was murdered whilst we carroused. i think there's a curse on me to be not very social... i even tried playing some belle and sebastian earlier to appease the gods but to no avail. bugger. i hope everyone is all aquiver at the prospect of the bowlie. chalet shenanigans sound like they should be a lot of fun... certainly more fun that watching the pastels, but then again what isn't? sarah: you should never, i repeat NEVER have made public your ideas about shirt slogans. you know what these record label people are like, they eavesdrop on conversations, hear lovely ideas and than prey on people's lack of resources and/or concern about turning ideas into realites and before you can say 'pish', they've gone and made the t-shirts themselves and have made a tidy profit on it all. then they get uptight because they think that 'we', the punters are having a go at notions of independence and such like when in all reality we're just having a self-deprecating laugh in the face of notions of independent identity in this post-modernist and pre-dissolution accelerated cultural society. perhaps. and on the subject of shoddy marketting devices, anyone coming to Pam's pre-bowlie bash at the betsey trotwood on thurs, the advice is get there early in order to receive your limited edition Piezoelectric Unit booklet, titled 'the ballad of the duke of harringay'. there's only going to be around 20 copies, so if you are going to be there and you want to 'reserve' your copy, send me a private mail pronto. there's also going to be maybe 20 new edition Belle Lettres packs, complete with colour cover and some colour prints inside. wahey! again, mail me private if you want to put one aside for you. the belle lettres edition is £2.00... there may also be artwork or postcards to buy too, so bring some cash and/or sexual favours to barter with :-) shoddy marketing device over. one more whisky soda, Galaxie 500 now on the system. i have to go keep the faith, the duke ------------------------------------------ 'what's the name they call ones like us?' ------------------------------------------ Tangents On-Line http://www.tangents.co.uk PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK editor at tangents.co.uk ------------------------------------------ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Sun Apr 18 00:53:00 1999 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 23:53:00 GMT Subject: Sinister: I don't wanna be left outside of your good times Message-ID: <3719179a.27927661@post.demon.co.uk> Dear all, Blimey, is it only five days? I'm dead excited, me. And it all starts at the Betsy. All hail Pam and Trousers for starting it with a bang not a whimper. All hail Wumpkinny too for flying in overnight ready to start a life of sin in Manchester and starting off her stay by playing a "gig" (as I believe you young people call it) at the Betsy, with our very own Chris Lynyrd, . I will be DJing, so if you can any requests you can shove them right up your arses, cos you'll get what your damn well given, and be grateful. I have bought a couple of fab waxings especially for the occasion, though. I want to play something suitable before the arch Duke comes on stage. It was going to be "Bela Lugosi's dead" in honour of his vampiric past, but I couldn't bring myself to pay good money for it. I fear the Roolz appearance at Bowlie will not materialise. It would be easy to cite musical differences, but the truth is that Keith's rampant ego is ruining everything, he now insists that we call him El Guapo, and spends his time composing free jazz instrumentals. They're shit, frankly, and we can do without him, he thinks he's the Robbie of the band, but he's really the Howard. I met Warrander John in town today, he was very excited cos he'd been out buying "some fucking shit-hot festival gear", a full set of juggling equipment and some t-shirts with aliens on them. He's also dead chuffed with the one he bought in "the Dam" with a very clever spoof of the Mona Lisa smoking "a big fuck off j-bone". "Man, it's well wicked", he says, snickering. He's also bringing his guitar and the Levellers songbook, and hopes you'll join him for an impromptu jam session. Can you feel the love? Tag xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From swanarama at xxx.com Sun Apr 18 03:09:12 1999 From: swanarama at xxx.com (Amanda Bergman) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 19:09:12 PDT Subject: Sinister: I'm an ocean away Message-ID: <19990418020912.67810.qmail@hotmail.com> from the cavorting at Camber Sands. so no, tag, i won't really be able to feel the love. perhaps someone could give it a good grope for me at the weekend? i'm all for a chat meetup for those of us that can't make it to the festival. we can compile lists of all the potential atrocities that might occur at Bowlie. you know, rooming screw-ups, hungover bands not being able to play, lost chalet keys, three straight days of rain, an earthquake, and the most horrible one of all: a gaggle of girls without their sanitary care and bits. please join me (and megan and genevieve), anyone who is able. if you haven't had the chat experience, try it. it only hurts the first time. details can be found at http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/chat/index.htm cursing the debt she accrued the last time she was in England, Amanda x . . .. . .. . .. . . "If you are good at anything, that is beauty." --from _Taxi Driver Wisdom_ visit *Red Roses for Me* fanzine http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Cabaret/9043 _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sun Apr 18 03:49:11 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 19:49:11 PDT Subject: Sinister: woof woof Message-ID: <19990418024912.42377.qmail@hotmail.com> my my my,i`ve been posting a lot...well,you would to if you had to spend most of the weekend with your parents. lesley jo wondered: >Genevieve, do you ahve a tape of your Jellicle cats leotard dance? that >sounds wellll surreal. wowee wow. who did the jellicle cats sadly no...there were only 1000 copies availible,and now they are all gone.(ho ho ho,witty me!) oh,my old drama practices,the daughter of the mother i took lessons from did a movie with burt reynolds. You`d think with the Jellicle Cat Dance(for some reason i think Andrew Loyd Webber did it) I wouldn`t be able to cope with the number of movie-deals and offers(and burt reynolds,purrrr!),but alas,i was deemed too controversial,so now i do the Dance in the ditch outside our house. I bought the Select magazine today (brett anderson is beautiful,isn`t he?)...hey,did the photographer tell you to cover your faces like that or did you just do it? I`m trying to see if I can recognize any of you,but I can`t. The person in the bus t-shirt NOT covering your face: You have really really nice hair,honestly! it gleams...oh and I read the Q article as well..what language were they speaking? `baggy` `boo to a goose` ??? i was shocked the hear that stuart murdoch `freaked` women,sometimes 3 or 4 times a day..does he like that song then `freak`? goes like `and if you wanna `woof woof` any time of day,it`s all good by me` it`s all starting to come out now i think there should be some more international festivals like Bowlie.And I`m not just saying it too be rude or jealous.Honestly,it`s so beautiful here (and i`m not saying sands of camber isn`t) my only sadness is that i don`t share it with you...beautiful,beautiful fresh spring smell,and already the frogs are singing (is that what frogs do?) it`s such a shame i can`t transport the bands and people from there HERE. I went out walking today and I just couldn`t stop...don`t you just love spring? all the snow melts and creates all these waterfalls gushing down the mountain a content (non `boo to a goose`) b&s fan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From untitled at xxx.com Sun Apr 18 12:45:35 1999 From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 07:45:35 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Fertile tears - Educating Rita Message-ID: <199904180745_MC2-726F-BF55@compuserve.com> Hullo Everyone, What about Mr Hamilton. Poor soul he's love sick, crying tears, fertile tears, for a girl. A white knuckle ride, an emotional express train. He's loosing sleep, may be it's your stereo you must keep playing in the night. Ah yes, music hides a multitude of sins. Just get into it's rhythm and your away. No one can hear you snore. When a man is poor he may still preserve the nobility of his inborn feelings, but when he's destitute he never can. If a man's destitute he isn't even driven out with a stick, he's swept out of human society with a broom, to make it as insulting as possible; and that's as it should be, for I am the first to admit that when I'm destitute I'm the first to insult myself. Hence the stereo. Any how, to the main point. I know it's a bit late after it's release but tuff. I got Green Fields... Yesterday. I know I'm probably breaking some rule or other here but "Oh Dear. Low Fi Belle and Sebastian. Like Arab Strap without the drum machine, instead a wind instrument." This was my first impression. I put it into my stereo and as it skipped on the dust I decided to put it into my computer, it's playing now "For a bit of loyalty I would pay you handsomely", ah, that's nice. Hang on, there's some one at my door... Right that got rid of her. Oh, it's on to the next song, Renew and Restore. I've listened to it a few times and, well, it's okay. Though the best song is Weathershow. Lately I've been having some seriously disturbing nightmares. I used to be a very deep sleeper but now I just drift in and out and I often sleep with my eyes open. Anyway, I also have hallucinations. Quite often a giant spider makes its way across the ceiling to above my lazy head. and my row of CD's move like a concertina. Does anybody think they know the problem. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dbgeraghty at xxx.uk Sun Apr 18 13:45:28 1999 From: dbgeraghty at xxx.uk (David Geraghty) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 13:45:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: you know it always hurts when it's the first time...... Message-ID: <00a901be8999$584e9860$e829d4d4@oemcomputer> I think I served my time in the nursery well. I played with the other pre-listees, and my mother didn't have to be called to take me home when I misbehaved. I felt, reading the messages that appeared, that I was missing out on the (delightful? dull? ) Mental Swathes. But here in Derby, when they close the only independent record shop, we are forced to negotiate the living hell that is the Virgin 'mega' store. Where they kept asking me to repeat what it was I wanted over and over again, before telling me the stock "I have no idea what you're on about" answer of oh, it isn't out yet. grrr. I felt like arguing, but then decided that it might be a bit silly, and I didn't feel like being forcibly ejected from a record shop for anyone, not even 'belle. I'm not going to the bowlie either, but the only people I could argue with about that are my friends who kept saying they would go, and then it was sold out. grrr again. I'm pretty gutted about missing.....er, Godspeed you Black Emperor actually. And the chance of taking part in something altogether better than a wet weekend in Derby......ho-hum. ah well, only a couple of weeks until I can drop my pretence of twee and go and see Fugazi. I'm still deciding whether a B&S t-shirt will get me funny looks, or something a little more detrimental to my health.....I know Fugazi fans are meant to be tolerant, but will that be over stepping the mark somewhat? I mean, has Mr Murdoch ever even seen a distortion pedal? Actually, the thing I would really like to see at Bowlie is the collection of films, being a sad anorak wearing film student, and I expect full synopsis's to be posted as soon as possible...hey, they might help in an essay I might decide to write. Ok, I think I've waffled on to much now. I have read the rules, but I still expect to be disappeared tonight for serious breaches of, something. byebye david xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Sun Apr 18 15:28:39 1999 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (skg21 at xxx.uk) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 14:28:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Harvey the Wonder Hamster Message-ID: <4271655.3133434519@q7300-08.quns.cam.ac.uk> OK, so Jessica owns a nurse's uniform, Genevieve we already know has a French Maid outfit, and of course Isobel likes dressing up as a school girl; anyone else? Does Keith own a PVC catsuit? Does PJ spend all his time with a ferret down his trousers? We should be told... Well there was another good night out at the Poetry Cafe on Friday. Although I'm still recovering from the shock of discovering that when Keith was at college he didn't drink any alcohol until halfway through his second year. Plus ca change... It was also nice to see Nick Dastoor again, even if he has turned into a dead ringer for Neil Morrissey. I was also quite suprised how few people had heard the Michael Head album from last year, 'The Magical World Of The Strands', so I thought I'd recommend it to you all; if you like Nick Drake's 'Bryter Later' of Love's 'Forever Changes' then you will simply adore this album, it's well worth investigating. I would happily join in with a non-Bowlie chat with you all, but it'd be a bit difficult, since I'll be in Holland next weekend. And probably far too inebriated to type. But of course those of us who aren't going chalet-hopping needn't miss out on meeting other Sinisterines, which brings me to: a London picnic. Primrose Hill, 2pm, Bank Holiday Monday 3rd May. Details at http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/cgi-bin/mboard/belle/thread.cgi?139,0 As advertised in Select magazine... See you there! Big Stu Oestrogen Found in Beer Yesterday scientists revealed that beer contains small traces of female hormones. To prove their theory, the scientists fed 100 men 12 pints of beer and observed that 100% of them gained weight, talked excessively without making sense, became emotional, couldn't drive, couldn't think, and refused to apologize when wrong. No further testing is planned. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ooon at xxx.th Sun Apr 18 15:02:26 1999 From: ooon at xxx.th (oon) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:02:26 +0700 Subject: Sinister: too much of good things is wonderful Message-ID: <3719E5F1.6CAACF07@samart.co.th> on behalf of every Thai on the list (ie.me)... Happy Thai New Year Everyone, especially to the almighty "God is a PJ" and Father Landers. this new year has been a wet year. not only out of the waterfight, but there was a lot of rain as well. usually it's more fun to get out of town and play in upcountry. but this year a lot more people kept themselves in Bangkok, including me despite having planning to go the beach for about half a year beforehand. but Bangkok was a good surprise. probably because of the economic crisis/depression, people came out and played a lot more this year. along the roads, people stationed in front of their houses armed with waterpistols in variety of sizes and forms, ready to soak every pedastrians and vehicles coming their way within shooting range. troupes of motorbikes roared about doing battle with those houses and trucks. i went up on one of those trucks with a bunch of fellow warriors, equipped with three water tanks bigger than me. we cruised around the city spreading new year good wishing by throwing everyone we spotted some bucketful of water, lovingly chilled to perfection with ice and scented powder. our new year day is usually the hottest day of the year. too bad this year it rained so it was bloody cold up on the truck when you're constantly sodden and soaken wet. in short, Thai new year is an enormous laugh and you're all invited to play with us next year. foreigners are our favourite when it comes to throwing water. i heard there's fun festival like this in Spain, yes? just throwing tomato instead of water. huhuhuh Mr.Miller, i trust you wouldn't mind sharing some tomato experience with us? my left ear is still blocked from being shot by those superpower waterpistols. how i wish that could be good enough excuse for sick leave tomorrow. well, only a few days to Bowlie, let me grudgingly say have fun everyone! oon xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From louise at xxx.uk Mon Apr 19 02:35:29 1999 From: louise at xxx.uk (Louise) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 18:35:29 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Re: Tune It! Message-ID: <004e01be8a05$07517100$1680883e@computer> Hello List Andrew aka The Stoat was talking about the Looper album: 'I just wish some time had been taken to tune the instruments before it was recorded. I've heard that out-of-tune playing and singing can sometimes be used as an expressive device, but I'm not sure that this is what's happening here.' I know we're not supposed to talk about schoolwork or everyone gets very upset...but I'm writing a dissertation about B&S and other 'twee' music C86 stuff. I'm trying to pin down something within the sound of the music itself which makes it different from other indie music. The main thing I've found is this idea of imperfection, everything sounds home-made (often because it is) and it's as though they're trying to play wrong notes or not tune guitars. I think that the wrong bits are what's endearing about say Looper or B&S - it kind of enhances the beauty of the song. Does anyone have any other characteristics they think are specific to twee indiepop? Do you think the imperfect bits are by accident or design? It would be really helpful to know what you think. Cheers, Louise +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From susannah at xxx.net Sun Apr 18 21:10:45 1999 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 99 20:10:45 GMT Subject: Sinister: They've got a special unit in St. Thomas's for that Message-ID: <990418201045.n0024258.garton@mail.clara.net> Kids Odd things have been happening on the run up to the millenium. The wheels of karma are busy turning. Just remember, whatever you do at bowlie will have repercussions well into, err, May. Exhibit One Up until recently we had a huge infestation of mice under the floorboards, so we poisoned them. Then they died. Next thing we knew they'd rotted and stank so bad I had to sleep at friends houses for a week. Then came the flies, I sprayed one with Vapona, and seconds later it landed in my spag bol. Exhibit Two I went into Borders on Oxford Street for a 'browse' and I walked out with a free copy of 'The Go-between'. I don't think it was meant to be free. Actually I nicked it. That week at work I got a very nasty paper cut. From my payslip. Exhibit Three The other week I ran out of washing powder and went through every item of clothing I had. One day I wore a pair of knickers two days in a row. That night at the Dogstar I pulled. I had to go home alone for obvious reasons. No one's come near me since. This isn't to be recommended actually, another day and you've got to have them surgically removed. Without anaesthetic. I know its taboo girls, but remember to pack enough pairs of knickers for bowlie, one per day, and one spare just in case. Ahhh, I'll see you at the Betsy. I'm off now to buy some pyjamas cos I might be sharing a bed with a complete stranger. I do hope so. Susannah aka Susie//Sus//Suki//Astral//Kitty//Hotlips//Hotmuff//lovebunny//peepshow// sugarnubs//fuzzyflumps//wumpybuns//buttermounds//flopsybutts// nippypops//bumpybuns//ploppybaps//lumpynads +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Sun Apr 18 20:41:02 1999 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 14:41:02 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: animal attacks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Michelle Meacham wrote: > I had to let you know that I knew I had truly found my people when the bird > attack thread appeared. Ever hit a bird with your car? A co-worker and I were hanging out fairly regularly one summer. More often than not, when driving to her house, I would hit a bird with my car. It was the strangest damn thing. Just driving along, and bam! -- a cloud of feathers in the rear-view mirror. Another time, while driving home from her house late at night, a rabbit hit my car. Yes, the rabbit hit the car. In the mirror, I could see it bounce several times. The rabbit appeared to be unharmed, aside from being dead. Moments later, a policeman stopped me. I had a difficult time explaining why I had a dead rabbit in a box. I wanted to give the unfortunate creature a dignified disposal. I never killed or harmed an animal before or since that summer when Laura and I were hanging out. --Mark __ Burning Rome : SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 > Distributed by Dutch East India Trading, Com Four, and Carrot Top < < http://www.xnet.com/~mkolmar/BurningRome > < MP3 & RealAudio tracks > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Arigreen23 at xxx.com Sun Apr 18 23:01:12 1999 From: Arigreen23 at xxx.com (Arigreen23 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 18:01:12 EDT Subject: Sinister: tune it/imperfection/etc. Message-ID: <596f3d38.244bb028@aol.com> i don't think the imperfect bits are by design. if they were, even through their "imperfection", then they'd somehow be "perfect", because it'd be planned. i heard once, though, that in japanese culture things are made with an intentional "mistake" so as to NOT be perfect.i also read a beck article once, where he said something to the effect of "the best parts are when you hear some guy in the back go 'hey, the burritos are here'"..however, i do think a lot of work is put into b and s's songs, seeing how long they said they took making TWATTYBUS...at the same time, they make lots of records, somewhat quickly...and somehow, i guess, maintain a balance between perfection/imperfection... ari +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samiamx at xxx.com Mon Apr 19 01:19:28 1999 From: samiamx at xxx.com (Sam Devere) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 17:19:28 PDT Subject: Sinister: Born Slippy Message-ID: <19990419001929.59721.qmail@hotmail.com> I'm thinking of going to see Underworld this week, do they put on a good show? Also, Acid House finally opens here in DC next week, what's the consensus on the movie? How's the soundtrack? Sammy _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Mon Apr 19 03:44:02 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:44:02 EDT Subject: Sinister: hurdy gurdy, hurdy gurdy yoghurt man Message-ID: <1b4d4f94.244bf272@aol.com> In a message dated 4/17/99 4:07:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rachel at tigermilk.freeserve.co.uk writes: << a couple of years ago a guy in a big mac sat across the aisle from me on the no.52. he looked like your average flasher/pervert, so i was intrigued when he rummaged in his bag and got out..... a yoghurt. he stroked the tub for a bit and then slowly unbuttonned his coat. i was definitely fearing the worst by this stage until i saw what was sewn into the lining... inside pockets filled with....... rows and rows of plastic cuttlery!!! he then proceeded to eat FIVE yoghurts, each with a different spoon which he licked clean before putting it back in his coat! man, it was weird. >> and that yoghurt man was none other than my Uncle Reynald. He's only loony when he's riding busses.... rachel: perhaps it was some odd form of performance art. You know, acting like you're faking acting normal. I like to think that some if not all of the weird people I see in my daily rounds are faking lunacy in order to play a monstrous practical joke on everyone. I wish I were going to bowlie.... dave* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pulpbot at xxx.com Mon Apr 19 03:50:29 1999 From: Pulpbot at xxx.com (Pulpbot at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:50:29 EDT Subject: Sinister: acid house in d.c. and I ponder Morrissey Message-ID: C'mon folks, we can't let the Bowlie bastards have all the fun. Acid House is showing as part of the DC film fest next Saturday (at 9 p.m.) and on Sunday (at 7:30 I think). Who's up? Which begs the question, what little marketing gnome thought to entice kids into movies first by releasing a great soundtrack? he/she oughta work for NASA or something. Speaking of movies, please don't see Never Been Kissed. If I didn't have winsome adolescent memories attached to Pretty in Pink, Some Kind of Wonderful et al (say what you will but it twas my first exposure to 'alternative' culture, alternative being giant posters of General Public, of course), I'd probably have the same gag-heavy response as I did to NBK. On the other hand, it's good that "Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want" still survives as the anthem of crushing loneliness. You know, there is speculation that Homer was not actually a single man, but a composite of many oral poets who refined their craft over many generations. Ah yes, my children, perhaps our children will one day argue the same of Morrissey. Ok, off to watch Mystery Science Theatre 3000. Now that's cultural crit done right, and Joel made a cameo last week, too!! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rod at xxx.com Mon Apr 19 05:31:58 1999 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:31:58 -0400 Subject: Sinister: you are sue pollard, and i claim my five pounds Message-ID: <002501be8a1d$9043ce00$d200a8c0@dawn> just back from mercury rev concert. fcuking excellent -- like how i reckon the verve probably sounded five years ago, before they discovered rolling stones orchestral covers and just got on with making a fcuking beautiful noise. luverly. if you're bowlieing, go see them. however, i'm stuck in this continent, so will be unable to join in the ted-bovis-esque joys of cambersands. however, i will be appearing on the webcam in my vest and pants for one minute. tune in and see if you can spot it. q: what do you call an elephant with 17 balaclavas on? a: anything you like, he can't hear you. i walked past 'vanilla ice' a couple of weeks ago, after he performed at a club at the end of my street. i briefly considered shouting some verbal gbh at him, before remembering that he is a double-hard bastard, who was stabbed by one of his homies. so pegged it instead, like the big girls blouse i am. www.unamerican.com -- you know it makes sense. i've been playing around with 'shoutcast' -- the winamp radio thang. my station ("the sweeney", for reasons to complex and dull to go into, but it does give me an excuse to play "shat it!" sound files on it) has been up the last couple of weekends, and has had listeners from as far afield as sweden and hungary. i'll see if i can't get it up next weekend, and do a bowlie tribute with shedloads of b&s, tfc, mbv and that. to access it, point your winamp at smyles.ne.mediaone.net:8000 and see if it comes up peachy. or download mp3spy (from mp3spy.com, natch) and search for me. any boston-ish people up for a picnic sometime? i can supply irn-bru. rododododod. Rod Begbie -- rod at begbie.com -- http://www.begbie.com "The python picked the passion fruit, the marmoset the mandarin, The parrot painted packets and the whole caboodle landed in." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From giita at xxx.com Mon Apr 19 10:43:15 1999 From: giita at xxx.com (Aileen Hammond) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 02:43:15 PDT Subject: Sinister: B&S and the Spencer.. Message-ID: <19990419094315.45850.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi there, After a hard struggle with the Icelandair-airline, I finally get to stay until the 26th! B&S here I come :) Why is it that I keep thinking that Jon Spencer Blues Explosion are playing?? But when I check out the Bowlie page there is no Explosion...strange.. I look forward to seeing you all at Bowlie! Sweet dreams.. Giita @->-- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ecsamenz at xxx.uk Mon Apr 19 16:19:17 1999 From: ecsamenz at xxx.uk (Amy) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:19:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: Does anybody here like the ladybug transistor? I got their last album, it's nice, but I don't know much about them. Amy xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From coool_air at xxx.com Mon Apr 19 11:38:44 1999 From: coool_air at xxx.com (Claire Timmins) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 03:38:44 PDT Subject: Sinister: off topic Message-ID: <19990419103844.32349.qmail@hotmail.com> The elusive rodenberrybegbie, claims to have wandered past the sleekster that is vanilla ice, well my friends it appears that Mister Ice is a fruad (gosh, imagine) he claims that when he was a hipcoolhop nipper that his status as the only caucasian in his gang earned him the name vanilla, due to his creamy complexion. His friends deny this any claim they called him 'stupid twat'. Friends eh? I do believe that i feel somewhat nervously excited about the forthcoming weekend. My plans to warm the jon spencer crew to my heart have not yet reached completion, and this worries me slightly.And while im here, id like to enthooze about the brilliance that is Kreidler, geeky german grooves. And the David Thewlis lookalike behind the bar, but im not saying where. looking forward to falling over you all and singing loudly when noone's listening, Claire ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Mon Apr 19 11:41:33 1999 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Dr C.B.Stride) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:41:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Anyone going to Delgados, Sheffield, this Thursday Message-ID: Any Sinisterines/rettes (is this correct terminology? discuss!) going to the Delgados/Sodastream gig in Sheffield,22/4, on their way down to Camber... Chris Offbeat on the web!! http://www.shef.ac.uk/~offbeat/ Dance to the sounds of the indiepop underground at Sheffield REAL indie night +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lyricjunkie at xxx.com Mon Apr 19 11:57:07 1999 From: lyricjunkie at xxx.com (headrush city) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 03:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister:We are 1000 Message-ID: <19990419105707.17973.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Wa-hey, there's now offically 1000 shy and retiring but SINISTER belle & sebastian fans on da net! Who is the thousandth member? Should they be let out of the nursery early as an honourary privilege, or is there a secret tw** prize lined up for them? Big Stu quite rightly recommended "The Magical World of the Strands". If melodies that perfectly soundtrack summer evenings are your thing then Michael Head is for you. Love and lollies, Natasha xx === "Here comes a soul saver on your record player" The Charlatans _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JMoorkens at xxx.ie Mon Apr 19 12:37:23 1999 From: JMoorkens at xxx.ie (Joss Moorkens) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:37:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: could it be magic? Message-ID: Hello. Joss here. The Jason Orange of Roolz. When this crazy rollercoaster of chart success (just add up all of our list crush votes; we're right up there) ends, I plan on embarking upon an acting career. My favourite actor is Jason Connery. Sadly, since we won't be playing this Bowlie thing, we shall be forced to just plod along with the proles. I shall be disguised as a blotchy faced Irishman with red eyes and a penchant for drunken singing. I still don't understand why Tag won't let me on the records. That royalty cheque *is* in the post, isn't it, McT? Perhaps I ought enlist Mr. Begbie to give him some of that verbal GBH of the earhole. I'm looking forward very much to seeing Fugazi too, David. That End Hits LP is marvellous. Although I did go to see their film the other day. I now feel that I have lived through their 10 year history. Mark wrote: Ever hit a bird with your car? No, but I did once hit a deer. He ran right out in front of me, I skidded, but still hit him in the hip. I got out to check on him (this is probably not the thing to do, should anyone else ever hit a deer: they are big and scary) and he got up and leapt over a wall. Thankfully. Shook me though. Is anyone else amused by http://thump.rotten.com/dilbert-hole/index.html I know i shouldn't be. Suzannah wrote: I'm off now to buy some pyjamas cos I might be sharing a bed with a complete stranger. I do hope so. At this juncture I would like to point out that I don't know you. And I am from another country. If that doesn't make me a stranger, I don't know what does.*wink* Sorry. Cheerio :) Joss E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be wrong, corrupted, dirty, lost, shot to pieces with spudguns, arrive late or poorly dressed, contain viruses or flesh eating bacteria that eats your flesh. You never really know. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any whoring, omissions or diseases which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. Thank you. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Mon Apr 19 13:27:13 1999 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:27:13 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Oops... Message-ID: It appears that I may have offended some of you yesterday by something I said. I'm very sorry. I shouldn't have assumed other people had the same sense of humour as me. And I didn't think of Cliff Richard before pressing send. Consider the back of my hand slapped. Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hopkinstim at xxx.com Mon Apr 19 13:39:28 1999 From: hopkinstim at xxx.com (Tim Hopkins) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 05:39:28 PDT Subject: Sinister: chicks, sucking and rock Message-ID: <19990419123929.86015.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello chums, and welcome to the working week. I know it won't thrill you, I hope it don't kill you. I have a very important spelling test in just seven months time and I haven't started revising yet. Ulp! Anyway, on to business. [Manx Cat Risotto] wrote: >[Mark Casarotto] Becky, is the Bournemouth bit to see an ailing >relative or something? I suppose bits of it are quite nice, but for >real kicks for chicks, get yourself to Royal Leamington Spa, Jewel >of the WestMidlands (and it has JaMeS in it). Or Hull. Ah yes, I have heard of the famous Leamington Spa chick kicking, which happens every spring to celebrate fertility and stuff like that. The first person to fully dismember a cute little easter chick wins, and is crowned world champion chick kicker, and gets to go on a tour of West Midlands beauty spots (Dudley and Walsall)in an open-topped hen wagon. It's truly beautiful. I remember the upstairs front window of my school bus splatting a crow once, right in front of where I was sitting. That kind of thing twists a boy. Incidentally, if you're looking for fine tourist resorts, I hear Hartlepool and Scunthorpe are nice this time of year. I can also recommend finding yourself in Alfspiddle, but that joke may simply be too Two Ronnies for words. [Mark], I love your square brackets. Can I borrow them? Rachel wrote: >Subject: Sinister: not going to bowlie sucks Blowie Sucks? Which chalet is *that* happening in? Enough of such smuttery and low talk. This afternoon, ladies and gentlemen I have proof of what we all suspected all along. The Duke of Harringay is a Goth. Tag knows it: >I want to >play something suitable before the arch Duke comes on stage. It was >going to be "Bela Lugosi's dead" in honour of his vampiric past, but >I couldn't bring myself to pay good money for it. And the Duke of Darkness himself admits it: > i am listening to Spies by Rose of Avalanche. it >is very good, naturally. Can I still have a copy of your limited edition literature, Dukester? Or have I clotted my boppybook? Rotted my poppybook? The Lord of the Manner went on: >i hope everyone is all aquiver at the prospect of the bowlie. chalet >shenanigans sound like they should be a lot of fun... certainly more > fun than watching the pastels, but then again what isn't? Errr...listening to the Pastels? Sucking on the Pastels? 'Hurry Up' Ari wrote: >i also read a beck article >once, where he said something to the effect of "the best parts are >when you >hear some guy in the back go 'hey, the burritos are here'" Yeah. Beck courts imperfection by deliberately leaving out anything resembling a worthwhile tune from his records. It's a fascinating cultural phenomenon. The best part of any Beck record is the locked groove towards the end where some guy goes 'click, click, click' forever. Bed Rugby wrote: >just back from mercury rev concert. excellent -- like how i >reckon the verve probably sounded five years ago, before they >discovered rolling stones orchestral covers and just got on with >making a beautiful noise. luverly. if you're bowlieing, go >see them. Shan't. If I'd wanted to listen to a bunch of hopeless hippies playing arse space rock I'd have been listening to Pink Floyd all these years. Or The Verve, who I saw five or six years ago and who played arse space rock. It was horrible. I hate rock music and I trusted a hippy. Once. Huh. Never again. Give me B*witched anytime, over the overwrought meanderings of sweat stained Serious Young Men. Or old men, for that matter. Opposing all Rock 'n' Roll, [tim] ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ciflux at xxx.com Mon Apr 19 14:32:05 1999 From: Ciflux at xxx.com (Ciflux at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:32:05 EDT Subject: Sinister: glasgow honeymoon Message-ID: hi all: My wife and I recently went to Scotland on our honeymoon. We've put up an online scrapbook from our trip, which some of you Sinister listmembers might be interested in seeing. If so, please check out: http://members.aol.com/calliappel/honeymoon.htm It's as much "photo essay" as "photos by people we don't know, so who cares," so I hope it's worth a look... enjoy! mike +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nickdastoor at xxx.com Mon Apr 19 14:36:35 1999 From: nickdastoor at xxx.com (Nick Dastoor) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 06:36:35 PDT Subject: Sinister: Oops... Message-ID: <19990419133635.87297.qmail@hotmail.com> Big Stu wrote: > It appears that I may have offended some of you yesterday by > something I said. I'm very sorry. I shouldn't have assumed other > people had the same sense of humour as me. And I didn't think of > Cliff Richard before pressing send. Consider the back of my hand > slapped. I can only assume he was refering to this: > It was also nice to see Nick Dastoor again, even if he has turned > into a dead ringer for Neil Morrissey. Hmmmph. People Nick has been physically compared to through his life (most favourable to least favourable): CLAIRE DANES 'A GIRL' JARVIS COCKER TOM CRUISE ALEX JAMES OUT OF BLUR MICHAEL J. FOX MANI LATTER-DAY 'MONKEY' IAN BROWN NEIL MORRISSEY Sadly, I didn't make any of these up. Ooh - Belle & Sebastian content. I think it was at Shepherd's Bush that I suddenly thought 'Oh my god - Stuart is Bernard Sumner before he got old'. Paul's clever computing skills seem to have been employed to cut off all the 'GET YOUR FREE HOTMAIL' rubbish from the end of my posts. This is all well and good, but they often cut off my name and/or kisses as well which makes me look very brusque. I promise that I am not. Nick xx ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eculb at xxx.uk Mon Apr 19 14:40:20 1999 From: eculb at xxx.uk (JaMeS) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:40:20 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: chicks, sucking and rock In-Reply-To: <19990419123929.86015.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: hey-ho people, On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Tim Hopkins wrote: > [Manx Cat Risotto] wrote: > > >[Mark Casarotto] Becky, is the Bournemouth bit to see an ailing > >relative or something? I suppose bits of it are quite nice, but for > >real kicks for chicks, get yourself to Royal Leamington Spa, Jewel > >of the WestMidlands (and it has JaMeS in it). and thats reason enough to go there, baby! aw, lawks, only kidding, but it is a lovely place. very nice park. renowned for springs. and it has lots of very pretty girlies, which is always nice ;) > Ah yes, I have heard of the famous Leamington Spa chick kicking, > which happens every spring to celebrate fertility and stuff like > that. unfortunately this is true, its very barbaric and we're campaigning to get it stopped. down with the evel chick-kickers!! mm, i saw one of those made-for schools documentarys on channel 4 this morning, about Slyvia Plath, for some reason i woke up reaally early (try 7am) (and im a student, go figure) . 'twas v.good though. hooray, AND i got my gentile waves CD thru the post too, finally, but i for one thought it WAS worth the wait. so boo to anyone who doesnt like it. im pondering whether to go to bowlie, though a) i dont have a ticket; b) i have minus money; c) i have to hand in a fiendishly treacherous maths assignment in on Monday. still, im checking those returns... oh for a miracle, JaMeS :) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Hall/7789 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michelle at xxx.org Mon Apr 19 17:09:37 1999 From: Michelle at xxx.org (Michelle Meacham) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:09:37 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Re: Born Slippy Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From twinkle at xxx.net Mon Apr 19 17:31:06 1999 From: twinkle at xxx.net (petula) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:31:06 GMT Subject: Sinister: photo-taking at Bowlie? Message-ID: <199904191631.QAA15445@trapdoor.aracnet.net> This just came to mind... Will we be allowed to take photos inside the venues during Bowlie? I'd hate to miss an opportunity to take snaps of my friends and some of the bands. And I'd certainly hate to get into a brawl with a beefy lump of a security guard trying to take my camera away. elisabeth +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Mon Apr 19 18:52:02 1999 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:52:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: INTERVIEW Message-ID: <371B6D41.9D27D3EC@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Hi all , this is an article by Dave Harrison : Lucksmiths-- A Good Kind of Nervous (Drive-In 21) Lovely Aussie Pop that recalls the hearty jangle and innocent tunesmithery of The Go-Betweens-- who I like-- with extra helpings of harmonica, cello, trumpet and female harmonies that remind me of Belle and Sebastian-- who I don't, especially. Can't say that any Australian band has produced a song as good as "Carravanna," even though I admit the Go-Betweens' "Bye Bye Pride" is mighty good too. --Dave Harrison ..........but who is Dave Harrison???? No musical ear!!! By all , Marco#7. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From macarthur at xxx.com Mon Apr 19 18:17:02 1999 From: macarthur at xxx.com (Graham MacArthur) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:17:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: last night i dreamt... Message-ID: peeps, Last night i dreamt i was the precious first child of James Bond, and had to write an equasion to save the world from the bad guy - who in my dream was christopher walken with a shaved head (simalar to A View to A Kill - the bond film with the best soundtrack - duran duran!). Oh! It was full of terror and suspence! but it was quite funny seeing my mum tarted up as a bond girl though. To follow a trend, i love the imperfections in music - espcially when someone is laughing in the background of a record, or when someone coughs. I can remember who it was that said it, but I read of a girl guitar player who said she coughed on purpose in the back of a recording because she was so pissed off that she had to play - i like that! "I'm ill so everyone else should feel shitty too!" hello to everyone i spoke to at the poetry cafe on friday - and everyone that I didn't. and everyone in america and everyone....(stop me, i'm doing a paltrow) love, Erica x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Mon Apr 19 18:50:39 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:50:39 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: The Sinister Midnight Lending Library Message-ID: Hello you wicked saucy little things. Some stuff. - The Sinister Midnight Lending Library - Today's municipal council meeting in Sinister Town Hall (attended by me, Splat, and a nice cup of tea) has resulted finally in the signing of a contract to build the Sinister Midnight Lending library, over there, beside the church and opposite the sweet shop. Although the best time to pop in is midnight when you can't sleep, you can go over and view the foundations now - go to: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/library There you'll find the beginnings of an idea, which you fresh-faced listees may or may not take to: a fiction section so that any of you budding young novelist or pornographers can have your works pinned up somewhere central and homely for other Sinistereens. There are currently just two books on the shelves, and one of them is stupid, but the good news is that there's an infinite number of copies of each. The un-stupid book is a short story written by our very own Ciara, someone who's visage you are all unknowingly extremely familiar with because she's draped in red on the cover of "If You're Feeling", frozen forever in time where Stuart snapped her and a copy of Kafka with his Olympus. Ciara's story is called "Fried Scampi >From Hell", it's REAL (well it's appeared in paper, with binding, and people have bought it) and it's heartily recommended, especially to anyone who likes HP sauce. So anyway - this is a call to ANYONE else who has some original fiction (fiction only please for now) or just a little story they're secretly quite proud of, to stop being shy and biting your lip, but to send it to me to pop up on the shelves. Rules for "submissions" on the WWW page. If the library is popular, I might expand it into a little Sinister township, with a recipe shop ("Richard Colburn apple turnover") and an S&M dungeon - suggestions welcome as long as they don't take too much maintenance. It just seems to me that with our 1000th coming of age, and the staggering wonderful resistance of you all into reducing this into some humdrum indie music resource, it's time we had a go at just creeping beyond our roots a touch and seeing if we'd like to become a little township. There's a lot of talk about online communities these days and I'm not a big fan of theorising about it in public, but we do seem to be neighbours don't we, rather than B-side swappers, and some of you keep hopping over the fence and disappearing into each others bedrooms. I'm happy to report that this is not normal music mailing list behaviour. Anyway if no-one sends me anything I'll pretend I never suggested it and it's all someone else's fault. If we get a nice little stock of paperbacks - who knows? One day we could do a "Sinister Cuttings Vol 1" on paper for you all to read at bus-stops at small cost - but I'd need to talk to Mr Stevie Trousers about that, who knows much more about paper and staples and copyright than I could ever pretend to. Your fiction doesn't have to be anything even B&S related, you just have to be a Sinistereen, and you don't even have to be on the list: you can be a regular WWW archive reader too. So don't be shy, you, think of it as somewhere to pin something up on the fridge door. You can even ask to remain anonymous and I won't whisper a word, although you might get a kinky pseudonym. - 1000th listee - Yes we have reached 4 figures - Sinister puberty? Someone had better dash down to the chemist for some Clearasil quick, and nip into the offy on the way home will you and get some cans of Kestrel lager? And yes I would bloomin' well tell you who the bloomin' 1000th listee was if it wasn't someone called Lulu Kerr who, instead of doing any work today, decided to watch until it reached 999 and then leap in. The 1000th REAL listee was someone who I won't embarrass just now, but you've been here before so you aren't a listee so you might have been cheating as well *@hotmail.com. But we don't mind :) - Timmy - Timothia Hopkins said: > If I'd wanted to listen to a bunch of hopeless hippies > playing arse space rock I'd have been listening to Pink Floyd all > these years. Or The Verve, who I saw five or six years ago and who > played arse space rock. It was horrible. I hate rock music Oooo handbags to the ready! I now know what I'm getting Tim for his birthday: "Trophies - The Lyrics Of David Sylvian (Vol III)" (yes, really, that's volume 3). Wrapped up in "Tales from Topographic Oceans" wrapping paper. Remember folks, you're quite at liberty to speak your flipping mind as loud as you want on any topic here, but it then becomes your responsibility to stop the resulting thread if it becomes boring :) But this one I think I might enjoy. Tim, do you like Camel? Don't look at me like that I was jus askin'. - Doctor Dick - Right, finally. Trojan's new 3CD box-set of Ska classics are heartily recommended to one and all because it's only 15 quid and really yummy - along with the spookily titled "Wrong Embryo" by The Rulers (sorry Keith, Tag, they got there first) I'm currently grooving to the sounds of "Doctor Dick" by Lee Perry, "Want Me Cock" by Owen and Leon Silveras, and "One Eyed Giant" by Baba Brooks And His Band. It's important to say that these song titles are not weak jokes of mine, and nor do they represent a theme, although they sure as hell look as if they do. It's all just blistering 60s Jamaican ska and it'll keep you smiling all day. Honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nkrajewski at xxx.uk Mon Apr 19 20:29:29 1999 From: nkrajewski at xxx.uk (Neil Krajewski) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:29:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ohhhh a debut post..... I'm so nervous!!!!! Message-ID: <002401be8a9b$87489f00$30faf7c2@p7t6j7> Hi Sinisterites/Sinistereens (delete as appropiate), As the title of this mail may suggest this my debut post so I'll keep it brief, the shorter the length the less chance of breaching the rules and upsetting Honey and co. Anyway I've probably to spoken to a number of u in the IRC room and they're you would probably affectionately know me as Kadj81for reasons I won't go into. Anyway on to the purpose of this mail beyond breaking the ice and anticipation that as mounted since being admitted to the nursey. Everyone is going to Bowlie this weekend and I'm not, "Neil is feeling melancholy," etc. As welling as missing the oppurtunity of seeing the obvious live not going also deprives me of seeing emminent post rock heroes, the marvellous, crictically acclaimed (I feel like a Boxing Bout MC) Godspeed You Black Emperor. I'm aware they are on just before B&S, but if anyone sees them then mail us a set list and brief account in private. This would be very much appreciated. Also I must add my support to the Michael Head is a genius campaign as he is and well anyone who's ever heard a Shack or last year's semi solo release will already know that. The next Shack LP should be well worth keeping an eye open for. I feel i must add some B&S related content to this mail as I risk permanent confinement in the nursery. I'm rather stuck for inspiration tho' (A Levels does this too, I could talk all about juries) so Honey just remember I didn't intentionally ignore all the rules. Sorry for wasting all/most people's ( u may have deleted this before reading it... sensible idea... set inbox assistant up) time, hope not to have something more life affirming to say in the future Neil Krajewski +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From summerwasting at xxx.com Mon Apr 19 20:36:50 1999 From: summerwasting at xxx.com (Nick Eeepooh!) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:36:50 PDT Subject: Sinister: complaint and reccomendation Message-ID: <19990419193651.96393.qmail@hotmail.com> could you do me a big favour and quit saying "twee" about everything. i find it quite annoying and really plastic. so there. nick. p.s.:everyone i urge you to buy the new LOW album it's called Secret Name and in my opinion it's definately the best thing i've heard all ye ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From karastar at xxx.com Mon Apr 19 20:35:51 1999 From: karastar at xxx.com (Kara Baer) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:35:51 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Put a little sugar on it, baby! Message-ID: Hello Sinister! I've just got back from my week in London. (I got to visit the planetarium.) I stayed with my cousin in her West Kensington flat. We don't really get along. We were supposed to see a play on Friday night. I wanted to see "Escape from Pteradactyl Island," an exciting musical about dinosaurs and scientists and their wacky adventures. She wanted to see one of those West End shows which has been running absolutely forever (Les Miz, anyone?). We reached a compromise and went to the movies instead. I'm so very happy to be back in Glasgow, although I do wish I had seen those singing dinos. Somewhere in the many digests currently lurking in my mailbox... Honey said: > And you can crucify me now Kara for your > embarrassment, because I told our mauve-headed > popster about your Cardiff fiasco between the films > and the songs, expecting something a little twee-er > (say a consolation gift of a furry pencil-case with a > butterfly on it) than his robust "oh poor kid, > I'll say sorry from the stage haha". Still at least > Neil got Isobel to say sorry :) I was very shocked to hear said popster telling the audience about my trip. Although, I did turn proudly to the guy beside me and told him, "He's talking about me." To which the guy sort of gave a condecending look. How nice to have my, um, enthusiasticness recognized. I enjoyed meeting all you sinister folk at the picnic. What with climbing over fences and huddling in band stands while it hails you really bond with people. The Gentle Waves show was a lot more polished than the first had been, but they seemed to be lacking energy. Isobel dictated the band like a puppeteer. Stuart didn't look to be enjoying the show very much. He seemed to be sort of mentally rolling his eyes at the whole thing. Only a few days until Bowlie! I'm so excited. I'm still looking for a ride down and back, if anyone has any extra room...I'll make cookies and I've got tapes of my radio show last semester. It'll be fun. Love Kara Star *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pbelinsk at xxx.net Mon Apr 19 21:34:14 1999 From: pbelinsk at xxx.net (Molly) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:34:14 -0400 Subject: Sinister: oooh get me away from here... Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990419163414.007a8790@northernway.net> See Molly. See Molly be happy. See Molly only apply to one college because that's the only place she wants to go to. See Molly tell everyone that she's going to go to college ____. See Molly wonder why they are so slow at geting back to her. See Molly get a letter from _____University and then put death wishes on admission officers. aslncre;nkxcnvmioe;rahgijkfdasdfdklf;jask;ldfjiaslhnuficoesjfhg;.kjfdhkjjrkh gkdjakljfd,mxcnvmncx If I were to scream that is what I would say. I want to email them (yeah... the *mature* thing to do, I know) and tell them that at least I (if "I" could be any more capitalized than it would be. So pretend it is double capitalized) didn't have any TYPOS in my ESSAY that I sent to ONE address, while the letter they sent to me and THOUSANDS of other rejects DID. And that they can take their offer of an extended waiting list and... oh! just do something with it! I wonder if I would have gotten a response from them. But I'm writing this instead of sending mean things. And I was looking at other school's web pages with late application deadlines and they look diiirtyyy. Of course its probably just my wrath filtering everyting brown. Actually, I like brown. I feel better already (uhhh maybe) I like twee. I think it's an apt description. I just looked at my above paragraph and saw that I used the word "gotten". I read an article this morning in the paper that said that "some pompous americans have taken to adoption of british spellings" It was really dumb. It said something about the word "gotten" being wrong or something. I thought to myself "oh. I never use "gotten" but now I see. Content content... oh. On dis-harmony: I don't particularly notice the out of tune-ness a whole lot. But I know what everyone's talking 'bout. I prefer imperfection. I think it's the difference between something being performed by the musicians as it comes out, and being picked apart and digitally enhanced by some third party that wants it just so, so everyone in the world will like it and not be turned off by what isn't perfect. And make a lot of money. appy polly wologies for using the list for my own devices (activity to replace the pulling out of my hair), Molly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rachel at xxx.uk Mon Apr 19 23:51:08 1999 From: rachel at xxx.uk (rachel tucker) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:51:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: that cow from the cardigans Message-ID: <001f01be8ab7$1e923860$4fa6883e@pre-installedco> hello again my loves, i wasn't too sure whether i'd write again but the nice warm fluffy feeling i got from seeing my(!) message in my inbox was too great to ignore. hey dave, i reckon you're on to something with this 'world playing monstrous joke' idea. all my friends aren't really angsty placebo/radiohead obsessives, they just do it to upset me. they're probably having a b&s soundtracked midnight feast with dairylea covered jelly tots right now. mmm :) anyway, real purpose of this message: i am unable to listen to bel's 'renew and restore'. it's perfectly nice in a plinky plonky way, until she hits the line 'renew and restore' and then she reveals herself as that cow from the cardigans! the resemblance is freaky! thankfully she doesn't do it anywhere else where we can see her, it would be too gruesome and traumatising for a weakling like me. oooh! am tres excited about this picnic (as i don't have bowlie to work myself up into a frenzy about). will you all be nice to me if i come? i don't have any badges so will you talk to me if i carry a sign saying 'i'm scared' on? otherwise i can see myself having a very janey applecake day. lovin' and leavin' you, rachel xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Mon Apr 19 23:47:10 1999 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:47:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re: Shack, Michael Head & inane ramblings Message-ID: I look forward to hearing this "Head" album that is being highly recommended, and I'm not talking about Monkees business though that is a very fine album too. "As We Go ALong" is a fantastically sorry lament. Anyway I saw Shack play with Arthur Lee of Love but a few years back and they were rather good. Arthur Lee is my only musical hero so I went up to chat to him and he started talking randomnly about taxis to airports. I think he might have taken drugs somewhere along the line... It's funny how your heroes can sometimes let you down. He didn't though. If he told me anything coherent I would have been very disappointed. You only have to hear Love's Bryan Maclean's recent solo album after years of clean living to realise Arthur was the man. I didn't wash my hand for at least 4 hours after shaking Arthur's hand and then only because my mum made me... Now he's banged up some prison cell playing achingingly beautiful harmonica solos... I hope... Martin P.S Apparantly I'll be wearing a red carnartion at the Bowlie so feel free to point and laugh at me (though you won't get any Dairylea). +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JMoorkens at xxx.ie Tue Apr 20 08:19:21 1999 From: JMoorkens at xxx.ie (Joss Moorkens) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:19:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bowlie Tickets Message-ID: Hello. Sorry about my mail yesterday. Complete bollocks. Anyway, this isn't really list-appropriate (sorry Paul), but my friend's mam has had a heart attack. Therefore he and his wife can't go to Bowlie. I'd rather my spares go to needy Sinister folk before I try the message board, so if you need 2 tickets for Bowlie and will definitely use them, please mail me quicksmart and they are as good as yours. Love Joss +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Tue Apr 20 12:17:31 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:17:31 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: my name is Mud Message-ID: Hello 1001 guys and gals: 1001st is a much more seductive figure,so Splat,Honey and Lulu should look up in their Magic Manuals and produce a flying rug to reward the true and not-cheating 1001st sinisterine to enter this Splastic world.How to recognize the 'One'? easy,just put some pea under everybody's mattress in the chalets on Friday evening and we will see who has the bruises on Saturday morning. My t-shirt is nearly finished,ready to wear,but all crooked lines as I could not get any frame,and it is bloody difficult to hold the cloth,the needle and so on the air...I don't care,my housemate thinks it looks more cute this way ( I was about to say t**** but I remember in the last minute!).Now,I would love to have one of those emblems of Britishness, a picnic basket with its plates,and its cutlery,to enjoy our days on the sand at its best.But these showers and misty weather don't promise any good,and I just hope Primus at Woodstock won't turn to be the closest comparison to what we will live in ....3 days!!!! Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 9852611 at xxx.ie Mon Apr 19 16:50:25 1999 From: 9852611 at xxx.ie (KIRWAN LOUISE EMMA) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:50:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The only thing that's left to do is cure the broken hearted Message-ID: This is my first mail so I hope you like it and read it all ( Hey! Come back - you haven't read anything yet....*sigh*) Average kinda day today - pancakes, a bus, and some labs ( yup, I'm one of those students ). The bus isn't as cool as it sounds. Well, I used to think that a bus journey anywhere was pretty cool and somehow made the destination more exotic ( I dunno ) just because you had to get a bus there. But not this bus...nope..my bus was built circa 1972 , and has teeny tiny seats ( apparently people were shorter back then). It's made of lollipop sticks and chewing gum and has a door which is wont to open when the driver goes around a roundabout...( I love that added element of *actual* danger in the morning) What else? Errrmm..oh, entertainment is provided by Dave the bus driver's one tape; the bee gees..live. It was cool for the first few times but not anymore. Oh, and when the bus is getting full, Dave comes along the bus shouting, "Come on now lads, three to a seat, three to a seat" . This *always* ends up with three strangers staring at their knees, hoping that they won't have to start a conversation with one another. *sigh - I'mso hard done by * heehee. I've read this all back just now and I suppose the bus has some good points..cos well it's a bus and buses generally are good things. Maybe I need to go somewhere good in one , as opposed to college. As for teen movies, I've been having a bit of a teen movie fest over the last few weekends. I watched Mallrats ( nope ), Ferris Bueller's day off ( yes) , Clerks ( yes ), Pump up the volume ( yes - plus acoustic version of "wave of mutilation") , Suburbia ( nope - *nothing* happens), Empire records ( was supposed to be good , but y'know what - it's really boring) . As a rule of thumb, beware any teen movie that has "Great alternative soundtrack" on the cover. That's never ever a good sign. The Belle and Sebastian bit; I'm getting nervous about going up to the Dublin gig. I don't know anyone who's going, so I'm just going to turn up on my own and hope for the best. If anyone else is going, I'll be the short girl with the short hair, flowery shirt (+upside down Sebastian badge) and starry bag. Anyway b'bye louise oh again, that thing with the mix tapes always happens. I think it must be a mix tape law that you get that order of songs into your head and there it must stay until the end of time ( or you get a new tape ) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Tue Apr 20 13:54:23 1999 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:54:23 +0100 () Subject: Sinister: judy and the dream of orgies Message-ID: blake the admirer of beth - why don't you write a little note on a fiver which you then leave her as a tip. if i were the girl in question, this would definitely spark my interest if not win my heart immediately. i had a dream the other night that i was in an episode of Buffy. i wasn't buffy though unfortunately and didn't get to do any kick-boxing (which on second thoughts was maybe lucky because if i had dreamt it i might have done it in reality and injured my companion rather badly - though if it turns out that he is a vampire then that would be a good thing.) where was i? oh yes, i think i was more of a willow character (SYMBOLIC) but still ended up in a 4-in-a-bed scenario with cordelia. my god, it was bizarre. woke up before anything too rude happened. this is what happens when your bowlie hopes are frustrated, i suppose. Buffy is really just a teen movie except it goes on forever (well, for several series anyway, which is the same thing in tv land.) i used to love The Breakfast Club and Pump Up the Volume. i was the shyest teenager ever but with a very active imaginative life - i longed to get all confessional while smoking pot (BC) or be a dj in secret (PUTV) but i was just too boring in the end. and i still am. it's raining like a bastard in york, and looks like it will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. just hope it will be as shitty at camber sands. oops, did i say 'will', i meant 'won't' of COURSE. no b&s content. i'm too bitter for that at the moment. sniffles and smiles, archel ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth do something pretty while you can don't be afraid rap101 at york.ac.uk skating a pirouette on ice is cool http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sillas_luap at xxx.com Tue Apr 20 14:16:51 1999 From: sillas_luap at xxx.com (paul sallis) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 06:16:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: A cup of tea she would admit to me. Message-ID: <19990420131651.24176.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Dear fluffy bunnykins, cardiefest99 is fast approaching and its becoming increasingly difficult to hide my excitement from my (oblivious) fellow work-a-day slaves. Alas there is an ominous malignant cloud on the horizon (and I don't mean the piss-poor weather), for looking in the festival archives I see that every hut comes complete with a kettle, but there has been absolutely no mention of teapots. How do they expect us to survive an entire long weekend if we do not have access to the life juice that sustains us? What are we to do if we can't have a steaming milky-brew with our KitKat fingers and Ambrosia creamed rice? Please someone help me out, I've already stretched my favourite cardie out of all recognition through nervous agitation, I need to know what the tea situation is else troubled sleepless nights will destroy the fun to come. paul. PS: sorry to all the lovely people who can't make it to Bowlie, I hope all the related emails are not too upsetting for you. Personally I had to sell my soul to the devil and my gran to a brothel to get there. My gran seems quite happy but Satan is seething. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Tue Apr 20 14:22:03 1999 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:22:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: A cup of tea she would admit to me. References: <19990420131651.24176.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: <371C7F7B.D0DC5C02@jeepster.co.uk> hello, > How do they expect us to survive an entire long > weekend if we do not have access to the life juice > that sustains us? > What are we to do if we can't have a steaming > milky-brew with our KitKat fingers and Ambrosia > creamed rice? tea bags maybe? or is that sacrilegious ... k. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ ***we are moving on april 1st 1999!*** new postal address is po box 14153, london, sw11 4xu, u.k. tel: 0171 924 2324, fax: 0171 924 6161 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Tue Apr 20 15:11:03 1999 From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (Michael Jones) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:11:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Bowlie Bulletin Message-ID: <19990420141103.8448.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com> Hello all, Apologies if all of the following is replicated on a web-site somewhere, but I thought those Bowlie-bound listees who didn't actually sacrifice their first born at the altar of Ticketweb in February might like to read the bumph said company have just sent to me regarding the Weekender... Some of it is a bit alarming... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Camber Sands Festival - April 1999 Thank you for booking your Bowlie Weekender tickets with TicketWeb UK. The festival runs from Friday April 23rd [doors open at 4pm] until Sunday April 25th and you may stay on Sunday night if you wish however you must check out by 10am Monday. There will be three bands on stage 1 on Friday, five bands on stage 1 and six on stage 2 on Saturday and Sunday. Entry to these Venues will be on a first come first serve basis Below is some important information that you will need to know: When arriving at the site it is vital that you know the name of the person who booked your apartment if you are not with them. This is how we will know which apartment you have been allocated. Only two keys are issued per apartment. If you are collecting your tickets on the gate, please bring the credit card you made the booking with. Credit card pick-ups must go to the Western Car Park[this will be signposted] If it is not your credit card you must bring a letter of authorisation from the cardholder. Upon arrival to site please have all tickets ready to insure speedy entrance to the site. Note you will not enter the gates of the site unless you can show a valid ticket. Everybody must bring a �25 cash deposit to be handed in on arrival, this will be refunded on departure providing no damage has been caused to your apartment. If damage caused exceeds the deposit value, the outstanding must be paid cash before departing the site. Upon arrival you will be issued with a wrist band. Please keep it on at all times as replacements cannot be issued. Anyone without a wristband will be asked to leave the site. Please bring two pieces of ID with you [one with an address such as a bank statement and the other stating your date of birth]. You must have two pieces of I.D. with you at all times. You will be asked to show this on arrival, and the bars at Pontins may request this before serving you alcohol. Alcohol will not be served to under 18's. No under 14's will be permitted on the site. If you are aged 14 � 18 you must be accompanied by an adult at all times. [can I volunteer ?] No glass bottles or alcoholic cans are permitted on the site. [hang about, I thought we could bring our own booze ?] There will be random drug searches. Bedding will be provided in the chalets but no towels. There is a restaurant on site as well as food vendors, but the chalets are self-catering if you prefer to cook for yourself. [and if you happen to prefer cooking your casserole with a bottle of Jacob's Creek - boiling the rice in Hoegaarden, natch - what then ? Eh ? EH ?] There is a cinema and games room on site, as well as other activities such as go-karting, abseiling and swimming. Some of these activities will carry an additional charge. Directions: By British Rail: The nearest rail station to Camber Sands is at Rye which is approximately four miles from the Centre. By Car: If you take the M20 and leave at junction 10 you then pick up the A2070 to Brenzett from this you take the A259 to Rye and follow the AA signs to the site which is on the New Lydd Road. Enjoy your weekend! [hrmmph] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, make of that what you will - most of it we knew, but the bits we (well, *I*) didn't are a bit surprising. Mike (considering filling a Puffa jacket with beer...). _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sillas_luap at xxx.com Tue Apr 20 15:15:51 1999 From: sillas_luap at xxx.com (paul sallis) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: A cup of tea she would admit to me. Message-ID: <19990420141551.8041.rocketmail@web306.yahoomail.com> --- Katrina House wrote: > hello, > > > How do they expect us to survive an entire long > > weekend if we do not have access to the life juice > > that sustains us? > > What are we to do if we can't have a steaming > > milky-brew with our KitKat fingers and Ambrosia > > creamed rice? > > tea bags maybe? or is that sacrilegious ... > > k. Tea bags indeed. I'm afraid I can only stoop so low, and resorting to tea bags would make me the limbo champion of the Northern Hemisphere. ;p The line must be drawn before you find yourself buying Safeway Saver marshmallow cakes instead of Tunnocks Teacakes or Happy Shopper Iron Brew (they don't even spell it correctly!!!) instead of Bar's Irn-Bru ("made from girders in Scotland"). paul. ps: sorry I got carried away, I quite like a nice cup of Tetley, honestly :) What tea does everyone else drink? (EMAIL ME, NOT LIST) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Victoria.Rees at xxx.com Tue Apr 20 15:24:21 1999 From: Victoria.Rees at xxx.com (Victoria Rees) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:24:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Boozlie Message-ID: <00071B65.N22024@ft.com> Re: >>No glass bottles or alcoholic cans are permitted on the site. >>>[hang about, I thought we could bring our own booze ?] Sainsbury's do nice big plastic bottles of wine. That should fool them! >>There will be three bands on stage 1 on Friday, five bands on stage 1 >and six on stage 2 on Saturday and Sunday. Entry to these Venues will >be on a first come first serve basis Does that mean that some people might not be able to get in? I mean, surely everyone will throng to B&S on Sunday night....will we all be able to get in??? On a non B&S note...I'd like to buy some Momus, but I've just been to my local record shop and there was such a massive Momus section, that I got quite frightened and intimidated. Could someone lovely recommend a good one to start with (I've searched the archive but to no avail)? Vicky (the lurker) ******************************************************************************** ******** *Please visit the web site of the Financial Times at http://www.ft.com * * * *This E-Mail is intended for the use of the addressee only and may contain confidential* *information. 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Tue Apr 20 16:30:42 1999 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:30:42 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: I'm a little teapot, short and stout. Message-ID: Hello everyone I've just woken up, in the middle of a Nuclear Physics lecture, after spending the morning shuffling around hopelessly in a sort of daze. I can't really work out why but I think Captain Morgan had something to do with it. I felt like someone had siphoned off my blood and replaced it with vegetarian gravy. Anyway, like I said I've just woken up in the middle of the most boring lecture you could imagine, given by a man who looks like he really should have been born as a vole or a hamster or something that burrows instead of a bloke with a piece of chalk that keeps breaking, and I found it strangely fascinating. It's like I've entered a crazy wibbly wobbly world where nothing makes sense. Gah! Maybe it's the pre-Bowlie trauma or something. No teapots? Blimey! Maybe if I bring my own I'll be like the little boy with the snotty nose and greasy shirt whose mum sent him off on Cub camp with a big bag of sweets, so everyone would his friends. And you could all be my friends because I had a teapot, and, oh! I'd be so glad, and then you'd steal my pants and fill them up with ants. No! You bastards! Natasha asked: >Who is the thousandth member? Should >they be let out of the nursery early as an >honourary privilege, or is there a secret tw** >prize lined up for them? A special Twix prize? Maybe I should have re-subscribed. Although I'd have preferred a Double Decker really. Only three days to go. I'd better start packing... Robin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com Tue Apr 20 16:47:44 1999 From: Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com (Jim Schmidt) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 99 08:47:44 MST Subject: Sinister: bowlie or bust! Message-ID: <9903209246.AA924623528@mail.newtimes.com> hey kids...just wanted to wish everyone safe travel to the fest and hopefully i'll get to meet many of you... three, what the hell, FOUR cheers to pam for organizing the bus!!! i leave for london tomorrow a.m. and this is the first time since i joined the list (june '98) that i've had to unsub...insert sigh...so again, see you there...and if you're nice, you can listen to my live copy of martha wainwright...she's just so. xo.jimbo. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Tue Apr 20 16:50:53 1999 From: martin at xxx.uk (martin at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:50:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: RE: Bowlditz update (those not sentanced should perhaps ignore.) Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990420155053.006c2a28@ampsys.co.uk> Is it really so? Is the tweekender turning into the bleakender? Will we be made to smile as we queue in neat single file for overpriced flat lager and stale cheese sandwiches? Will we have to walk round in single file and anyone running be shouted at "More haste and less speed Fairbairn-Bottomley smythe" or something? Will cardies be confiscated if they do comply with Bowlie uniform? Will we all have to bed by 10 pm with lights out strictly at 10.30pm? And any chalet hopping will be subject to spotlight searches and forceful rejections (of the premises)? Don't worry all is not lost bring a yellow bib and walk around pretending to be a security guard and carry out random strip searches. In the words of Talk Talk "Errant days filled me, Fed me illusion's gate" sorry I meant "life's what you make it". As for the alcohol restrictions I shall be taking a box of wine minus the box disguised as a colostomy bag. I hope I don't leak it might make the wine taste funny... Martin I shall now be wearing a boiler suit with little arrows on it as well as the carnation. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Tue Apr 20 17:13:01 1999 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:13:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Boozlie (sorry to keep on) Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB6901AC33@PARK_EX> Hi there Victoria @ the F T said >>There will be three bands on stage 1 on Friday, five bands on stage 1 >and six on stage 2 on Saturday and Sunday. Entry to these Venues will >be on a first come first serve basis Does that mean that some people might not be able to get in? I mean, surely everyone will throng to B&S on Sunday night....will we all be able to get in??? Apparently offical capacity on the big room is 2300 and there are 2600 going! My mate (who owns a venue) reckons it shouldn't be a problem and muttered something about 'rubber walls', but with all the other mouse nazi rules and regs there could be problems. I mean, we're all quite skinny and fey, aren't we? Or will the 'convenience' store run out of Slimfast by teatime on Friday. It's certainly going to be a bit cosy in there on the Sunday. I'm sure it'll all be OK, its not like we're mods and rockers (although there could be some nasty chinese burns over Mercury Rev), I think it's just because this is the first event of its kind that there seems to be a lot of hassle. xoxo CarsmileSteve (already preparing garlands of flowers to hang around security guards' necks) ---------------------------------------------- carsmilesteve at geocities.com visit our website http://fast.to/carsmile 'So tell me what have you got? So tell me have I lost the plot?' +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hopkinstim at xxx.com Tue Apr 20 17:18:59 1999 From: hopkinstim at xxx.com (Tim Hopkins) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:18:59 PDT Subject: Sinister: more rubbish Message-ID: <19990420161900.21991.qmail@hotmail.com> Mister Steady Michael and Vicky Lurker (were you actually *in* the Lurkers?), between them, wrote: >>No glass bottles or alcoholic cans are permitted on the site. >>>[hang about, I thought we could bring our own booze ?] So did I...this presumably means that we'll have to put up with overpriced holiday camp swill, or that I've wasted my money on a chalet cos I'll just end up sleeping on the side of the road back from Rye each night, drool dripping from my mouth and binding together the sandy soil into an ungodly alcoholic mud. Maybe. "Before the Romans came to Rye or out to Severn strode, the rolling English drunkard made the rolling English road". Do they mean me? Errr...dunno. Do I get a Poetry Society grant for that little recital, Trousers? >Sainsbury's do nice big plastic bottles of wine. That should fool >them! Sly...any teetotallers coming into the country who fancy bringing me one of those lovely big dutyfree plastic botles of gin they sell at airports? >On a non B&S note...I'd like to buy some Momus, but I've just been to >my local record shop and there was such a massive Momus section, >that I got quite frightened and intimidated. Could someone lovely >recommend a good one to start with (I've searched the archive but to >no avail)? Well, since you ask my opinion, I would strongly recommend none whatsoever, seeing as he's nothing more than a clever-clever smartarse with no ear for a tune and an unerring eye for self- congratulation. If you want a Momus record, I'd recommend the shortest one. HoneyPaul, who will smack my bottom sometime soon (*please*), asked: >Tim, do you like Camel? A question to which there are many answers: 1. Yeah, but I prefer Capstan Full Strength 2. Only if I'm well oiled 3. Only if he's well oiled 4. You calling me a hippy? 5. Ah, you mean the King of Combat? Well yeah, but I prefer the Pup, it's tweeer. And so on. I'd talk filthy reggae/ska, but it'd be naughty. Here goes. I can heartily recommend Lee Perry's 'Roast Duck' / 'Take Back Your Duck' pairing, more or less the entire repertoire of The Versatiles (their 'Push It In' is a stormer) and Prince Buster. I like his dirty cover versions best - 'Big Five' (which is 'Rainy Night In Georgia') and 'Wreck A Pum Pum' (which is 'Little Drummer Boy'). All of the above artistes also made politically conscious records which you could play round The Duke's house without being reprimanded. King of the whole pack, though, is a little known version of 'Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head', by Keith and the Impact Allstars, which is too rude for words, and certainly too rude to be discussed in this forum. Come to think of it, that particular record may stray from the rude into the downright disgusting. Hm. 'Dr. Dick' is also a copper-bottomed classic, too. Let me feel it now [tim] ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Tue Apr 20 16:41:25 1999 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:41:25 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Bowlie Bulletin Message-ID: Someone at work is going to a goth festival in Whitby this weekend, and she says they're allowed to take alcohol. Goths are obviously more trustworthy than twee indie kids. This Burning Effigy, Last Dance and Manuskript are playing. Apparently one of Boyzone used to be in This Burning Effigy. Weird, huh? I hope no one who is travelling to Bowlie from abroad has already set out not knowing that they need two pieces of identification, an accompanying adult, a letter from their parents, and a barcode tattooed on their forehead. The tattoo is so that you can be scanned at random by the big burly security guards. It will make you go "beeep!" but apparently it doesn't hurt at all. If the scanner doesn't recognise your barcode then you are thrown into a big chute which leads to Whitby. Alix said: > that's not fair, mark. i think i shall sulk. anyway, kevan will > be busy with his mudwrestling. And it is about time that I explained what Alix was referring to. As the boys have organised a football tournament for themselves, I thought it might be nice to organise something for the girls. I am pleased to announce the Bowlie mud-wrestling competition, in which any lithe young females are welcome to compete. Full details and entrance forms will be located around the site, and the competition will be taking place on the saturday night. Isobel's celebrity tag team (featuring Amelia Fletcher and Laetitia Sadier, but not Tag) is likely to draw the crowds so get there early. Kevan The Fat Slug *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Apr 20 19:48:09 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:48:09 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Stuart Murdoch Spunked Up In My Shreddies! Message-ID: <01be8b5e$56d467a0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Take heart, comrades! Better to have Bowlied and been busted than never to have Bowlied at all. Will Blakey from "On the Buses" be doing the random drug searches? I'll get you Hopkins! What frightens me is the thought of over zealous Pontins bouncers conducting the random drug search that dare not speak its name - unannounced rectal probes! I hope band members will be subject to the same rules - that should piss off those weedfreaks Mercury Rev! Record company employees are notorious drug fiends too - I have every confidence that no preferential treatment will be shown them over the weekend. Do you think the same rules apply to the World Darts Championships? Or is it just us lot who get ritual humiliation as an extra bonus activity. Yes, I distinctly remember being encouraged to take loads of alcohol. I think it might have been Jeepster, somewhere near that stuff about sanitary products being taboo. I should threaten them with legal action, like they used to do. Is it illegal to get people's hopes up? Bloody should be. You know how chalets had to be booked as a block? Do they have to be cancelled as a block as well? If so, how did those people who cancelled manage to come to an amicable agreement? Curiouser and curiouser... Tim, you're being very feisty, aren't you? Are you revving up for the weekend, or what? You're wrong about Mercury Rev though. I like half-arsed space rock, but I don't like Mercury Rev. I would describe it more as half arsed faux roots with a wobble board. I'll probably learn to love it though. Momus is cousins with Derek out of Del Amitri. Both shite. Duke now has two fawning reviews on Amazon.co.uk website. I think one of them's from the wounded party in the great Lovin' Spoonful scrimmage. I don't know who the other plonker is. Mitchell, the Kate Jugsy CD I saw wasn't the one you've got (which is indeed very fine), it was by Kate and one of her mates, who also sports a Brian May frightwig. According to the sleeve, they recorded it when they were both a mere twenty summers old. Probably virgins. Mitchell, I tried to print out "Scampi Fries from Hell" but it came out all funny. Would it be possible to do a plain text version for dull oafs? I did notice a welcome mention for Slade though. Have fun at Bowlie, and don't forget the competitions. Sister Disco. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Tue Apr 20 20:50:56 1999 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (skg21 at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:50:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Bowlie Bulletin Message-ID: <5761123.3133626656@q7300-02.quns.cam.ac.uk> I did feel a bit better about missing Blowie when I read: > No glass bottles or alcoholic cans are permitted on the site. Now there are 3 possible courses of action here. 1. The tweesters' method: Do what you're told and get ripped off by high prices at the bars onsite. 2. The smartarses' method: Tell them your cans aren't alcoholic, they haven't had a drink for weeks, you're the one who's an alcoholic. 3. The students' method: Take boxes of wine and barrels of beer instead. > There will be random drug searches. So who'll be first in the queue to have their body cavities searched? Three other bits of news (my, what a mine of information I am at the moment, it's so out of character...) >From listening to Radio 1, I have discovered that: 1. If you listen to the Evening Session tonight (8-10pm), and possibly for the rest of the week, they've got a competition to win a chalet at Bowlie for free. 2. Next Monday on Lamacq Live (8pm-midnight) they've got a documentary about 'The inside story of the Bowlie weekender', which will probably go out sometime after 11pm. 3. According to the Sun newspaper, the Brits committee have decided not to use Radio 1 listeners to vote for the Best Newcomer award next year... Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From editor at xxx.uk Tue Apr 20 19:25:11 1999 From: editor at xxx.uk (duke of harringay) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:25:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: the duke is NOT a goth plus A Bloody Good Cause References: Message-ID: <371CC687.BF4D0A03@tangents.co.uk> Kevan Cooke wrote: > > Someone at work is going to a goth festival in Whitby this weekend, and before all and sundry pipe up with 'so THAT's why the duke isn't going to Bowlie!' i wish to stress once again that i am not, have never been and never WILL be a Goth, despite what the Hopkins man might whisper so seductively in your ear or what Tag might trawl from the depths of his record bag to 'introduce' me on thursday. and now, on a much more serious note, can i urge you all to take note of the following publication, presented by the same people that brought you something about Pop, but for an altogether much more worthwhile cause. Get your pennies out... ----------------- VOICES FOR KOSOVO Produced in association with the charity Children's Aid Direct, this anthology aims to raise awareness and - more importantly - money for the refugee crisis in Kosovo. It is an anthology to challenge, inform and stimulate the reader, one that will save lives. Contributors include those involved in the situation, either as victims of war or as aid workers, and a selection of writing by famous and not-so-famous authors from all over the British Isles and beyond. All money from sales of this book is going to Children's Aid Direct. * Since February 1998 the scale of ethnic unrest in Kosovo has continued to spiral. Children's Aid Direct, having been working there since 1995, have been forced to suspend all aid distribution in Kosovo itself and staff are now located in key positions in the Republic of Macedonia and Albania, where they can continue to respond to the emergency needs of refugees. These people, displaced within the Balkan region, and refugees arriving in neighbouring countries, are deeply traumatised, having lost everything. Some of the poorest countries in Europe are bearing the brunt. Continued financial support will be needed not only to respond to this current emergency but to ensure that homes and lives can rebuilt when this crisis is over. Please order this book. LET THERE BE NO WAR A war is a cruel word nobody loves it a war is a deep wound which is painful forever There have been many little orphans who know no more for childish jokes All people are the same of flesh and blood let he be punished who war starts the first Let there be flowers sown all around the world and let the children blossom in joy and happiness We don't war ever to be a war again let it be written in history only Every child wants to dream peacefully and to play some new games tomorrow Every child needs a mum and a dad too, Let us all shout out LET THERE BE NO WAR Nela (Kosova; 8 years) Publication: May 1999 Paperback: £7.50 post free, from: STRIDE PUBLICATIONS ------------------- keep the faith, the duke ------------------------------------------ 'what's the name they call ones like us?' ------------------------------------------ Tangents On-Line http://www.tangents.co.uk PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK editor at tangents.co.uk ------------------------------------------ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Tue Apr 20 22:33:50 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:33:50 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: in haste Message-ID: Just to say two things: first that there's a new story in the library, and the librarian Miss Honey is *very* pleased - it's in French so she's convinced it must be sexy, and is preparing for a "night in" curled up under the duvet with a French dictionary, some Barry White and lots of massage oil. It's from our very own Stephane so get out your tickets and pop along to: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/library Secondly, because that Bowlie Train's a-coming I've relaxed some of the things that stopped you all seeing pointless mails like "unsubscribe" which people in their lesser wisdom sometimes send to the list. Sorry for this but if I don't while I'm away some of your mails might not get through, because I'm the unseen hand that filters these things. So you may just see a slight reduction in signal-to-noise for the next 5 or so days, and any queries about the list you send to me will sit in a big pile. If my plans to join a harem at Camber Sands don't come to fruition, and I have to return to this humdrum life instead, then order will be restored list-mummy-wise on Monday. Oh and Captain Peter Miller asked Honey why he can't print his Scampi. Is this a universal problem, like scratching your back on the underground? Peter - try loading the whole book in your browser (link: "book" on the index page) and doing a "Save" as plain text or just right-clickety-Save on "book". If this doesn't work, let me know and I'll... ask my Balfronian gentleman to get it sorted. That's it - Honee xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Tue Apr 20 23:04:57 1999 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake E. Hamilton) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:04:57 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I am an animal, my teeth are sharp and my mouth is full... Message-ID: <001b01be8b79$d49cc4a0$304e1198@wfu.edu> Dearest List, I first must apolgize for being so down and out this past week. I am slowly working my way out of love-induced influenza (and the copious amounts of schoolwork don't help either). I am in the process of writing a story about our new list love-child Beth, who works around the corner during the day, but is employed in my mind for all hours. So Honey, when I'm done, I'll submit it for viewing in the library. I'm sure that sounds grand. There's nothing more fun to read about than l'amour courtois. I just happened to be looking around on the sinister gallery page for some neverending fun, and I'd like to give some some awards-- Best Picture--LesleyJo, I really can't say enough about the, beer is it, in the hand, purely enjoyable. Coolest Picture--JygSaw Dave, the man, the being, the stud. Picture that is most likely not to be them (aka Most Professional Looking)--StLucy, if that is indeed you, please let me know, and you may lash me however many times. Pictures of people who I'd most like to meet--Everyone, come to South Carolina, to Hilton Head, my summer home, and come to the beach and buy me drinks (stupid American laws) and make sure I don't get myself sunburned. Nothing worse than looking like a lobster. Well university food is calling my precious name. Love, Blake (see my country skies today!) ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ "I am not Jesus, though I have the same initials." - Jarvis Cocker +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From heinitz at xxx.uk Wed Apr 21 00:36:07 1999 From: heinitz at xxx.uk (angel) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 99 23:36:07 GMT Subject: Sinister: i'm not bitter Message-ID: <990420233607.n0004913.heinitz@pop.clara.net> hey there kids, do you KNOW how long it is since i last posted a message to this list? neither do i, but i remember when it was all fields round here etc etc. i usually just read everybody else's messages, and sigh with admiration. however it has come to my attention that some of you are getting all excited about some two-bob sand festival, or something, and i thought i'd tell you that i'm having my OWN festival this weekend, in my house. there will be music all weekend long, as i have a repeat button on my cd player and a six-cd motown compilation. i will be showing some films and also some television - the Eastenders omnibus on sunday will be observed with the traditional respectful silence. unfortunately admittance to my festival is limited, although anyone with a Benny out of Top Cat T-shirt gets in free, and my cats are obviously on the guest-list. and if it's sand you're after, there's sand a-plenty in a fetching green plastic turtle-shaped sandpit with buckets and spades provided. so ner. tomorrow i am going in to leeds, as my spies tell me there is a cheap shangri-las cd in Jumbo. there WAS one in HMV, but my friend got to it a split second before me. he has longer legs, y'see. anyhoo. be good boys and girls at your fest, now, won't you. no, better still, be fun. abi, who's got a Benny out of Top Cat T-shirt, and that's all that matters. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erinlew at xxx.com Wed Apr 21 00:47:30 1999 From: erinlew at xxx.com (Miss Erin Nicole Lewis) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:47:30 PDT Subject: Sinister: miss erin pops out of hiding Message-ID: <19990420234731.918.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey kids, Lordy, it's been ages since I've sent a post to the list. I feel I must write, though, to tell all of you going to the Bowlie to see the Flaming Lips if at all possible. They're playing the second main stage on Saturday, whatever that means. I just saw them in concert for the first time this weekend, and I can honestly say IT WAS THE BEST SHOW I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE. And I've seen a few. Their new music is completely different, with lots of piano and less rock. You won't get to see the neat headphone concert that they've been putting on in America (where the audience members wear headphones tuned into a local radio frequency that's broadcasting what the band is playing, so you get sound out of the main speakers and the headphones, which you can control) - it was so refreshing to hear treble again. But what you *will* get to see, if they repeat any of their tricks, is delightful! All I can hint at (without spoiling all of their flourishes) is airborne glitter, hand puppets, and 2001: A Space Odyssey. And the music is better than anything they've done so far. Putting in her two cents, er...pence, worth - Miss Erin P.S. Just for reference, the Lips defeated the former Best Concert of Miss Erin's Life, which was Paul Westerberg at the Fillmore in San Francisco. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MWaggner at xxx.com Wed Apr 21 02:28:29 1999 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:28:29 EDT Subject: Sinister: oh gosh I have a plane to catch in... eeek Message-ID: <51733c3b.244e83bd@aol.com> Ohhh, all this Tweestock excitement and I am never ever going to get packed... First off, when I looked at the map of Camber Sands, the one I *knew* would be provided, I was struck by the configuration of the camp. Scary. Somehow I suspected there would be luggage searches at the gates, little stands set up right in front of the guard towers which are cleverly disguised as merchandise kiosks. But I did not think there would be middle-of-the-night raids to see if people are wearing jammies... So, be sure you've brought your condoms and bits ... for last minute emergency ordering of prophylactics write to Magnetic Megan, who has unselfishly volunteered to stay at home in order to arrange last minute overnight shipments of Hello Kitty condoms direct from Japan to forgetful festival attendees. All she asks is that you bring her back a gift in return. Before and After photos of Kitty showing how much he grew do NOT count. I'll volunteer to be the surrogate parent for any lost child turned in at the courtesy booth...I hear any unclaimed children will be sent to the workhouse of an unnamed international conglomerate and I am staunchly opposed to child labor. I am also available to provide helpful hints for the hiding of contraband substances as the last (poser) Woodstock had metal detectors and searches at the gate as well (not a bad idea, that puffa jacket one). Mr. Miller, Jeepster cannot be sued because they did not put the information on cd. I urge you all to remember -- there are roughly 2600 of US and how many of them? Piece of cake. The twee-k can certainly inherit the small piece of earth that is Camber Sands. --michele, not packing +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eliam at xxx.edu Wed Apr 21 02:58:16 1999 From: eliam at xxx.edu (Marie Elia) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 99 21:58:16 -0400 Subject: Sinister: in the mud on yr knees. Message-ID: <199904210158.VAA22565@pellns.alleg.edu> hey, kids -- seems like i'm always telling you things that i've read in very bad music publications, but i thought you might be up for some reading to stave off bowlie antici........pation! so, included in Rolling Stones top albums of the 1990's is IYFS. this is what they got to say: _____________________________________________________________________________ Belle and Sebastian If You're Feeling Sinister This instrument-switching Scottish outfit represented the ultimate triumph of twee, that British subgenre that applies rock-style hipness and amateurish fervor to unrock interests such as coffeehouse folk, French 1960's pop and the works of Burt Bacharach. Casually led by real-life choirboy and Smiths admirer Stuart Murdoch, Belle and Sebastian attached cello, trumpet and strings to a skiffle beat and melodies devised after hours of lonely listening to vintage Top Forty radio. Not since Nick Drake had so quiet a band spoken so loudly. ______________________________________________________________________________ now we not only have a definition of tw**, we also have the perfect formula for songwriting! ah, well... it is still both exciting and disheartening to see B&S in shit mags like RS, but probably no one noticed anyway. ah, yes, my subject line: today i was finishing a cigarette with kimmy outside the post office, and i turned to leave, not realizing i was perched at the edge of the big concrete steps. i took a flying leap, trying to avoid the concrete, which i did, only to land on my hands and knees in the mud, thereby ruining my jeans and making for an embarassing situation. why share this? well, the first thing that came to my mind was the line from "lazy line"... oh, and if students can smuggle orangejuice&vodka into class in Sunny Delight bottles, surely you clever, sinister people can smuggle some alcohol into bowlie! take care, and take pictures! xoxo, marie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SPRFNK at xxx.com Wed Apr 21 05:16:01 1999 From: SPRFNK at xxx.com (SPRFNK at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:16:01 EDT Subject: Sinister: belle and sebastian shows and other things Message-ID: does anyone know if belle and sebastion are going to be playing in europe during may and june---also--does anyone know any good webpages for telling me what shows are playing in england, ireland or france---if anyone has any idea--email me please--thanks kristin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Wed Apr 21 08:44:32 1999 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:44:32 -0400 Subject: Sinister: sucks to your ass-mar! Message-ID: <002301be8bca$e77c72e0$5b1e05d1@tinystar> hey listies, in case you're having difficulties imagining the sort of fun you'll be missing out on without me at bowlie, let me help: *jell-o wrestling *games of full-contact hockey, after which all participants would be presented with an "i scored with jessicaxo" badge *pyjama parties galore *drunken races through the corridors at 4am *whipped cream fights *jumping on beds *the ever-popular canadian monopoly, complete with mountie icons instead, you'll likely all be in big trouble after the first big drinking binge as four chaletmates try and hit the bathroom at the same time, only to discover that the two keys are held by absentee members. any references to stuart and spunk should probably be kept hidden well away. i found discussion of his underwear to be intimate enough. ohmy, is it getting hot in here? i'll have you know that the real reason i won't be at bowlie is because i've received a better offer. what could be better than bowlie, you ask? i can't tell you yet. i'll just let you sulk because you aren't included. souping it, jessicaxo * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * someone had spied on us, i suppose, as we sat beside the canal and ate the sandwiches, drinking not even orangeade or coca-cola but hot milk out of a thermos. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * t i n y s t a r @ w o r l d y . c o m (it's lovely being a girl) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jmdor1 at xxx.au Wed Apr 21 07:39:26 1999 From: jmdor1 at xxx.au (Jacqui) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:39:26 +1100 Subject: Sinister: breeding like rabbits Message-ID: <7094A0F4D45@GFS02.cc.monash.edu.au> Hello. I have something to say (finally). I too am looking forward to Bowlie. Pity I won't be there, but please do enjoy yourselves and if you can somehow pause amidst all your gallavanting about the camberside (I'm sure that's what my mum would say) see Sodastream because I do love them so and expect that maybe several of you will too. Or see them with the Delgados before. *sigh* More on the Lucksmiths too. They have a new release called Happy Secret and it has some very touching moments. I do recommend it. *after you Mr Mark* > Another time, while driving home from her house late at night, a > rabbit hit my car. Yes, the rabbit hit the car. In the mirror, I > could see it bounce several times. The rabbit appeared to be > unharmed, aside from being dead. Moments later, a policeman stopped > me. I had a difficult time explaining why I had a dead rabbit in a > box. I wanted to give the unfortunate creature a dignified > disposal. > > I never killed or harmed an animal before or since that summer when > Laura and I were hanging out. > > - --Mark Oh dear. You have made me feel so so heartless. One day I was driving home and *whump* a bunny hopped under my wheels. It was definitely dead and I was shocked for um, maybe a nanno second and three quarters, but not very long. Once over the shock I could not help but laugh *aloud* just like Cruella de Ville because I do so much dislike bunnies. I don't endorse killing for any reason but I just couldn't help my outburst. I consider bunnies to be unnecessary, useless and annoying beasts that should be smite from all taxonomic records and banished from the universe forever. Or maybe just banished from Australia, because they should never have been invited in the first place, and our beautiful endemic species are coping poorly enough with the arrival of convicts in the first place, never mind having to deal with competition like bunnies. *grumble grumble* > I'm thinking of going to see Underworld this week, do they put on a > good show? Also, Acid House finally opens here in DC next week, > what's the consensus on the movie? How's the soundtrack? > > Sammy Sammy, Underworld are well worth seeing because of their pure energy. Not very twix though, t'be sure. The soundtrack to Acid House is great, however I was rather less impressed by the movie. Interesting, yes, but not good. I have not yet read either of the Welsh books the stories are lifted from. If nothing else, the stories have encouraged me to buy and read the books. But see it just to hear lurvely B&S pouring from the digitally digitallised speakers loud and soft and sad and beautiful. I suppose that is all. Until I am moved once more to speak, Jacqui also interested in Momus' good bits. how does Poison Boyfriend rate among his catalogue? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JMoorkens at xxx.ie Wed Apr 21 10:24:54 1999 From: JMoorkens at xxx.ie (Joss Moorkens) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:24:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: judy and the dream of orgies Message-ID: Archel: why don't you write a little note on a fiver which you then leave her as a tip. this would definitely spark my interest if not win my heart immediately. This doesn't always work. My mam used to have a school uniform shop, and this funny little beardy man would occasionally come in, saying he needed to get a uniform for his daughter. He explained that she was roughly the same size as him, so he could try it on for her. He would then try on the uniform and begin to get excited and a little sweaty. Then he would remove the uniform, and say 'fnank you' in his funny little voice before running out the door. On one of these little visits, he spied my sister behind the counter, so he gave her an envelope. This contained a pound note and a badly scrawled pencil message saying: 'please come around to my mum's for tea at six o'clock'. While this obviously sparked her interest, it failed to quite win her heart. She gave the man back his pound and politely declined his kind offer. Perhaps if it had been a fiver she'd have acted differently.... So I wouldn't personally recommend the note on a fiver. Although it may be more successful if you haven't just been excitedly cross dressing in front of the lucky recipient. la lala Joss +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Wed Apr 21 11:55:47 1999 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:55:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bowlie - you CAN bring booze :) Message-ID: <371DAEB3.CFDE61DA@jeepster.co.uk> hello everyone, right, here's some info for you all (thanks to Steady Mike Jones for the Ticketweb info): ************************************************************************ Camber Sands Festival - April 1999 the festival runs from Friday April 23rd (the site opens at 4pm and bands start around 6.30pm on the main stage) until Sunday April 25th. you may stay on Sunday night, however you must check out by 10am Monday April 26th. there will be three bands on stage 1 on Friday, five bands on stage 1 and six on stage 2 on Saturday and Sunday. Entry to these venues will be on a first come first serve basis. the capacity for stage 1 is 2300 and for stage 2 is 900, so if there is a particular band you want to see, remember there will be another 2999 people onsite and you should get into the venue well in advance. when arriving at the site it is vital that you know the name of the person who booked your apartment if you are not with them. This is how we will know which apartment you have been allocated. Only two keys are issued per apartment. if you are collecting your tickets on the gate, please bring the credit card you made the booking with. Credit card pick-ups must go to the Western Car Park (this will be signposted). If it is not your credit card you must bring a letter of authorisation from the cardholder. Upon arrival to site please have all tickets ready to insure speedy entrance to the site. Note you will not enter the gates of the site unless you can show a valid ticket. everybody must bring a £25 cash deposit to be handed in on arrival, this will be refunded on departure providing no damage has been caused to your apartment. if damage caused exceeds the deposit value, the outstanding must be paid cash before departing the site. upon arrival you will be issued with a wrist band. Please keep it on at all times as replacements cannot be issued. anyone without a wristband will be asked to leave the site. please bring two pieces of ID with you [one with an address such as a bank statement and the other stating your date of birth]. You must have two pieces of I.D. with you at all times. You will be asked to show this on arrival, and the bars at Pontins may request this before serving you alcohol. Alcohol will not be served to under 18's. No under 14's will be permitted on the site. If you are aged 14 – 18 you must be accompanied by an adult at all times. you ARE allowed to take glass bottles and alcoholic cans into the site however you AREN'T allowed to consume them OUTSIDE your chalet ... therefore it's the "no street drinking" rule. you MAY be searched upon arrival to the site however any alcohol you have will not be confiscated. there will be random drug searches on the site. personal cameras are allowed to be taken into the venues providing they are 35mm or under. for all of you who haven't received any information regarding tickets etc., please phone Ticketweb on 0171-771-2000 and try to sort it out with them before panicking too much. Bedding will be provided in the chalets but no towels. There is a restaurant on site as well as food vendors, but the chalets are self-catering if you prefer to cook for yourself. There is a cinema and games room on site, as well as other activities such as go-karting, abseiling and swimming. Some of these activities will carry an additional charge. Directions: By British Rail: The nearest rail station to Camber Sands is at Rye which is approximately four miles from the Centre. By Car: If you take the M20 and leave at junction 10 you then pick up the A2070 to Brenzett from this you take the A259 to Rye and follow the AA signs to the site which is on the New Lydd Road. ************************************************************************ that's most of it for now, if you need any more info check the Bowlie site at http://www.jeepster.co.uk/bowlie/ ... see you there :) cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ ***we are moving on april 1st 1999!*** new postal address is po box 14153, london, sw11 4xu, u.k. tel: 0171 924 2324, fax: 0171 924 6161 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Wed Apr 21 16:27:10 1999 From: johnj at xxx.com (JJ) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:27:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: who is correct, Jeepster, Ticketweb or Camber Sands? Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990421162710.0079fba0@mail.u-net.com> A friend of mine got this via email at about 1548 today, from Ticketweb: "Dear xxxxxx, As this is a licenced site you will not be permitted to bring your own alcohol onto the site. We are looking into the Belle and Sebastian recommendation as this is directly conflicting with the information given to us by Camber Sands. Best wishes TicketWeb " Now Katrina's mail was posted some time this morning, I think, so who is right? Clarification please. JJ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brennan at xxx.uk Wed Apr 21 16:37:59 1999 From: brennan at xxx.uk (Brennan) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:37:59 +0100 Subject: Sinister: All the singles...at once Message-ID: <000201be8c0f$10140c60$b608883e@rcspo> So there I was, just wandering around Sheffield, just ordered the limited edition Ash EP (only 5 in the whole city) when I wandered into the local HMV, lured by the promises of being able to vote for the band of the millennium. Out of habit I went the the albums stand first to see if any new B&S, Godspeed You Black Emperor or Ben Harper stuff was there. To my utter astonishment ;-) there wasn't so I meandered to the singles section and 3,6,9 seconds of light AND Lazy Line Painter Jane were sitting there (I've already got Modern Rock Song), begging to be bought, with a 10% discount by virtue of my studentness. Anyway. I grabbed them and held on to them for dear life and now all I need to finish my collection is Tigermilk. Any offers. According to Our Price it was run at the end of Feb and deleted early March. Spooky. The New Smiths? No thanks. We are the 1000 Belles and the band are nothing like the smiths. Later oliver +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Wed Apr 21 16:54:41 1999 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:54:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: who is correct, Jeepster, Ticketweb or Camber Sands? References: <3.0.6.32.19990421162710.0079fba0@mail.u-net.com> Message-ID: <371DF4C1.AB9C27B4@jeepster.co.uk> hi, shite ... let me make another ten million phone calls and i'll let you all know, i keep getting ten different answers to every question regarding this blimmin' festival and i'm going to scream ... :( cheers, katrina. JJ wrote: > > A friend of mine got this via email at about 1548 today, from > Ticketweb: > > "Dear xxxxxx, > As this is a licenced site you will not be permitted to bring your own > alcohol onto the site. > > We are looking into the Belle and Sebastian recommendation as this is > directly conflicting with the information given to us by Camber Sands. > > Best wishes > > TicketWeb " > > Now Katrina's mail was posted some time this morning, I think, so who > is right? Clarification please. > > JJ > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ > +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ ***we are moving on april 1st 1999!*** new postal address is po box 14153, london, sw11 4xu, u.k. tel: 0171 924 2324, fax: 0171 924 6161 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Apr 21 17:42:45 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:42:45 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Murdoch Felched My Frosties! Message-ID: <01be8c15$fbb99d00$LocalHost@itjfvkli> To beer or not to beer? How confusing! I bet Jeepster are right, shame on those of you who doubted their word! Whatever the eventual outcome, don't worry. I've hatched a foolproof plan to get beer on site, involving a hijacked lager-filled fire engine with its lights and siren switched on, a fleet of special beer-dropping aeroplanes normally used to put out forest fires, and an ernormous beached oil tanker filled with Marston's Pedigree instead of crude oil. I'm having a few co-ordination problems though, so the puffa jacket option's still looking good. I'm going to get totally wazzed watching the European Cup tonight. I suggest you all do the same. Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Wed Apr 21 18:04:55 1999 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:04:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Dublin Gig - Wednesday 28/04 Message-ID: <371E0537.D2363168@jeepster.co.uk> hello, i have a friend who can now not go to the Dublin gig and has two tickets for the Dublin gig for sale at cost + booking fee. if you are interested, please e-mail Stuart at: mailto:stuartf1 at yahoo.co.uk and let him know! cheers, katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ ***we are moving on april 1st 1999!*** new postal address is po box 14153, london, sw11 4xu, u.k. tel: 0171 924 2324, fax: 0171 924 6161 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Wed Apr 21 20:32:24 1999 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:32:24 EDT Subject: Sinister: FunkySeb writes... Message-ID: <26418502.244f81c8@aol.com> Howdy, P!O!P! pardners! I was just about to apologise profusely for last night's very angry Boozie Bowlie post, and to the many people I'd called c***s, but then I realised that my e mailler hadn't sent it! hoorah! My 'puter has saved my skin again! Thank you Katrina for clarfying it all, I was seriously considering not going. After all, when there's nae whiskey, many people will be very sad. As those of you who love Ealing films will know... That whole ban thing's quite workable, those of us who love to get pissed al fresco can just go to the beach. Or sit in the bus shelter on the main road. Rock on! Anyway, everything looks slightly less bleak now. I wish Blake was coming. His (or her?) posts make me all shivery. They're great, even if he didn't think my photo on the site was any good. Git. Can anyone on this list (preferably in London) fence? Sabre, even? I asked everyone at Friday's Blue Soda, but they all looked at me as if I were drunk, which I was. But I mean it. It's a great sport, especially for those of us who prefer reading books and looking cool to running about a muddy pitch with lots of fat men. Contact me privately :-) I put this in my last abortive post, but I'll repeat it...can you buy bootleg "Iron Brew" down here (London), or is it only in Scottish Happy Shoppers? I'd love to know. Isn't Richey Manic gorgeous? Shame the music's bollocks. Da Duke wrote: <<"War war is stupid, and people are stupid." George O' Dowd, 8 years old.>> Too right. What is it good for, eh? seb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jeanette at xxx.com Wed Apr 21 15:54:36 1999 From: jeanette at xxx.com (Jeanette) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:54:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Bowlie and bunnies Message-ID: <371DE687.7391@ktc.com> I hope you all have a very nice time at Bowlie this weekend and I'm looking forward to hearing all about it next week! I am a bit concerned about the list, though, what with Honey being out of pocket for so long! What will happen to us? Who will look after us? What if someone stages a coup!?! Think I'll just go sit in a corner with my favorite blankie and suck my thumb until Monday. Jacquie wrote: One day I was driving home and *whump* a bunny hopped under my wheels... Once over the shock I could not help but laugh *aloud* just like Cruella de Ville because I do so much dislike bunnies. That's not very nice, dearie. Tho' I did let out a sinister chuckle once when I saw a dead jackrabbit in the road. He was flatter than a pancake, but his huge ears were sticking straight up, waving in the wind. Struck me as a bit funny. I don't know what struck the bunny. jeanette +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Thu Apr 22 00:07:27 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:07:27 -0400 Subject: Sinister: More Bowlie Bollocks Message-ID: <199904211908_MC2-72F3-1535@compuserve.com> Hi Booklovers, There was me worrying how 2,600 people would fit into a 2,300 capacity venue, and then Katrina tells us its actually 3,000 people. Well that's OK then, I can stop fretting now. Er, hang on a minute. Doesn't that mean that 700 people who have paid to see Belle & Sebastian won't be able to get into the gig, then? Let us hope that the walls truly are elastic, or there may be some rather untwee shoving going on, with fans getting their cardies in a twist. Poor Frances Hodgson Burnett must be turning in her grave looking all those nocturnal emissions being attributed to her in the Library. Miss Honey, will you have a Dewdrop Decimal Classification System soon, or is that superannuated now? Captain Miller, did you manage to finish your breakfast cereal after Stuart had garnished it? My respect for him increases daily, as I thought such techniques for liaising a sauce were known only to us catering professionals. Good night & God bless, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jaguar at xxx.gr Thu Apr 22 01:22:19 1999 From: jaguar at xxx.gr (Panos Karafotias) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 03:22:19 +0300 Subject: Sinister: B&S in Greece Message-ID: <002801be8c56$36401cc0$3e76a7c3@thejag> Hey all, this is my first post here too.I don't know about you but I feel I'm lucky that I am among you people.I'm proud to be a B&S fan and to tell you the truth I enjoy it so much now that (in Greece at least) nobody knows them. One other thing that impresses me so much about the group is that here in Athens where I live I know about 10 people who love B&S and they all have something in common which I think deserves some notice.I don't know what's going on in Scotland and the rest of the U.k. but here all these ten people are record collectors and generally 60's listeners.If one of you is a 60's lover can understand how difficult it is for us to appreciate a new group with "modern" sound.Well, B&S have achieved that and thank God they did . :) I want to hear some other opinions.Are there any more record collectors and 60's fans that enjoy B&S or that thing here in Greece is just pure coincidence? Panos +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Thu Apr 22 02:25:50 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:25:50 EDT Subject: Sinister: I am an animal, my teeth are sharp and my mouth is full... Message-ID: <802a11d2.244fd49e@aol.com> In a message dated 4/20/99 6:20:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hamibe02 at wfu.edu writes: << Coolest Picture--JygSaw Dave, the man, the being, the stud. >> Blake obviously has a good eye.. i salute him. and good luck, blake, with the Hostess who has the Mostess. somebody else says << write to Magnetic Megan, who has unselfishly volunteered to stay at home in order to arrange last minute overnight shipments of Hello Kitty condoms direct from Japan to forgetful festival attendees. All she asks is that you bring her back a gift in return. Before and After photos of Kitty showing how much he grew do NOT count.>> I've always been terrified of Hello Kitty. She has the oddest merchandise, and as far as I can tell, it's all plastic or PVC. plus i knew a scary employee at Sanrio Surprises. luckily it's shut down now. jessica says things like <<*jell-o wrestling *games of full-contact hockey, after which all participants would be presented with an "i scored with jessicaxo" badge *pyjama parties galore *drunken races through the corridors at 4am *whipped cream fights *jumping on beds *the ever-popular canadian monopoly, complete with mountie icons>> that sort of thing is why my parents tsk tsk at me going to shows. for shame! actually, I can't go because I have no money. But I just got a job, so that should change. If I said I was looking for a job, and then i found a job(and heaven knows I am miserable now), would you all hate me? though i volunteer to jellowrestle any listees who fancy a bit of sticky grappling. doesn't that sound rude? dave* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pulpbot at xxx.com Thu Apr 22 04:05:18 1999 From: Pulpbot at xxx.com (Pulpbot at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:05:18 EDT Subject: Sinister: Momus is Marvelous Message-ID: <327528cd.244febee@aol.com> You friggin' James Taylors, What, there is an artist actually too smirky and smart-ass for this list? Can't imagine! I reckon it's easier to cuddle up to B&S's precious mystique than a sarky sing-a-long about coming in a girl's mouth. I found his sub-cabaret wurblings hard to fathom at first, and perhaps a good melody isn't always atop his to-do list, but as I once told someone else on this list, Momus' verbal jousts are a bit meatier than, say, Nick Drake references. I find it hard to imagine that Stuart Murdoch hasn't been influenced by Momus. Shades of the birth of Athena, yes? God, my pretention meter just broke. OKay, get 'Tender Pervert.' Be prepared for way-cheap keyboard sounds, but his song 'The Homosexual' is sex ed for indie boys and wholly necessary, as is the entire album. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Thu Apr 22 09:33:46 1999 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 01:33:46 -0700 Subject: Sinister: one hot moment Message-ID: <000501be8c9a$d7631640$4311020a@rebelstrange> Blake whispers, for fear of being shunned by his peers... >Best Picture--LesleyJo, I really can't say enough about the, beer is it, in the hand, purely enjoyable. NAH it's not beer. it's just a crummy snap one use camera. i am not a very good party animal. my alcoholic exploits are restricted thus far to a very occasional (i.e. special occasions) bout of champagne or merlot. la di da. or Wild Turkey, either one. no chaser. i have no idea what the hell i'm talking about. i have to warn all you that the most crush-worthy miss christa jackson chaffinch has been appointed to be my remote-sensing bowlie eyes and ears. she'll be ordered to report back to me any and every thing that goes down on the dirty bus. and she'll be taking blood and fiber samples from the lot of you so i can start my Sinister clone farm, a superhuman army of Tweeness that will one day rule......er, the corner playground. Yeah! and is sleater-kinney still going to be there? say hi to them for me. tell them they rawk tha mic. i have a question! in sleep the clock aroond, what is it that the people are getting paid to do? sleep? are they in some weird medical experiment? i've never heard this discussed. it's not a joke. i really want to know what they are getting paid for. they're all glad that they came. for what? at the end, i always envision people dancing the reel on a windy hillside, and doing the centrifuge like dreamy lovers, jigging through the ocean foam with many white horses, as the camera pans around broadly into the sunset. what do YOU, the VIEWER, imagine? i had an idea, there should be a Bowlie ride at disney world, like "Belle and Sebby of the Cambersandieans". like pirates you know? those automated models, what you callits. you could instead of a boat, ride thru on a double decker bus, and pass all the scenes of drunken revelry. you could see mick and nick and rick at the brit awards, doomed to perpetually raise and lower the statuette over and over for thousands of visitors passing by. the dog on wheels could be the tour guide. all the characters of stuart's wonder world come alive. SEE Jane paint lines...(AND catch a dose of thrush!)..over and over again! SEE Judy with ants in her pants. SEE sebastian crash his car. SEE isobel's most frightening school outfit ever as you enter the Chamber of Sadistic Madchen. oh the horror so who is in Roolz anyway? is there someonre called Justin? there should be. no real boy=band is without a justin, or a nick. i still say it's time for homoerotic adolescent puppet groups. anyone with me? i didn't think so. sigh. Gentle waves flautist.......margaret they say? it creeps me out. just a couple weeks ago i had a dream that i was in the Jeepster Shop( a real place staffed by a lovely Katrina, and stocked full of jd salinger books, giant isobel posters, u2 tshirts, and ultra rare seven inches) and there was a framed 8X10 on the wall of a certain "mary Margaret" who was the member before sarah joined. she was mousy and wore glasses but was very kewt in a frumpy sort of way. i still say this is creepy. how long though, before they become an orchestra of like 30 people? sooner or later stuart will feel that it's necessary to do justice to his future masterpieces. then we'll have to memorize ever more names for our dorm-room magazine collages of the sweeties in b/s. (oh i forgot the part of that one dream where stuart Muchrod gleefully showed us his boring briefs, which he had spray-painted metallic silver on the arse part. he was very proud of this for whatever reason) today was a good day. i got to make contact with my very own potential sweetie, my number two photo jenny, my bad bad girl. i'm feeling love for you all. i wish i had the attention span right now to write all of you personally like i should be doing for the people i need to write to. until then here is your word for the day. neurasthenic. i wrote a DC trip sestina maybe i'll show you sometime when the list gets slow. i can't WAIT till after bowlie when we losers get to sit back and listen to all the lucky ones tell how much fun they had. NP in my brain: the photomontages of Weimar-era dadaist Hannah Hoch (insert umlaut) johnk, is france galls name really Isabelle?? Eine Kleine Madchen (in uniform), LJ http://www.members.tripod.com/rebelstrange The boat that brings us here will crack beneath your weight. This is territory you cannot invade. "I'll go and play with words and pictures" SAVE MST3K!!!! http://www.mst3kinfo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From giita at xxx.com Thu Apr 22 10:09:45 1999 From: giita at xxx.com (Aileen Hammond) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 02:09:45 PDT Subject: Sinister: 2 tickets to Bowlie available!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <19990422090945.27280.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello, We have bought a 4-person chalet, and two friends of mine from Ireland that were going, have just called and let me down. :( We are two 19 year old girls traveling from Iceland.. Our plane leaves in 3 hours to London so please me call me or e-mail the minute you read this. this is very urgent, if ANYONE wants two tickets, could you call this number: 00354-5521850 or email me at giita at hotmail.com Thank you! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From caleb.rudd at xxx.net Thu Apr 22 19:59:11 1999 From: caleb.rudd at xxx.net (Caleb Rudd) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:59:11 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Camber capers; Papercuts part deux Message-ID: <00b101be8cf2$35459740$4499d4d4@darwin.zinc.co.uk> hellooo one and all, Long time no smut. I thought I'd better try to increase my Sinister popularity seeing Bowlie is but a a day away and the prospect of the I Saw You message board afterwards. Someone said about squeezing everyone in that we were all skinny and fey. We'll I'm skinny but wouldn't say I was fey, although I have an aunt Faye. I think getting into the venues should be based on a shortest to tallest order that way everyone will be able to see. After all it would be the polite thing to do. Can people believe how close it is. It just seems like 2 months ago that we were thrilled about having got tickets but it seemed soo long away. Oh, it was 2 months. I'm excited that so many Sinister people will be there, including Honey, who I'll have to meet just to dispel my fears he is isn't actually an elabroate majordomo program running on Unix. I was going to bring my laptop and do a regular update thing on Chester and Sinister but as an astute person pointed out, down at Camber Sands they probably think the Internet is still scary and mysterious and charge 8 quid a minute. Anyone bringing a digital camera though? And does anyone know the weather forecast - Should I bring my bathers or boiler suit? Papercuts: Tweekender - The Bowlie Issue Stevie Trousers and I have been working hard on issue 2 of Papercuts, the B&S fanzine of choice, as featured in Select magazine. Featuring interviews with My Life Story, and Marine Research, articles on the Go-Betweens and erm, others, Gene and Blur album reviews, a Bowlie band preview, Bowlie games, the continuation of PJ Miller's saga and pieces from approxitmately half the Sinister list, it promises to excede the first in quality and splendor. If Stevie doesn't feint from laser cartridge fumes (as he's been doing most of the work, bless) it will be available tonight at the Betsy ford do and all weekend at Bowlie, at the merchandising stand or you could just carry on with your malarky and wait to be accosted by a Papercuts editor. For mail orders, watch this space ----> <----- which won't do you much good but I thought it was amusing. But seriously... (apart from being an album title from Phil Collins), we'll relay details about mail orders after bowlie. Camber Cabs I rang a couple of taxi places in Rye including Rother Cabs (01797 224554) who said it costs about a fiver from Rye to Camber Sands, but all cabs are metered so it may vary. Except for Monks Cars apparantly, who quoted 10 quid. Cheeky Monkseys! Anyone going down from London on Saturday morn? I'm going to get the 10.37am train from London Bridge to Rye on Saturday as I have to work on Friday and want to see big lips, big ego, big songs (i.e. Echo & the Bunnymen) at the Brixton academy on the Friday night. Railtrack says the trip from London to Rye (via Ashford) only takes 1 3/4 hours, which in "real" time means I'll probably be arriving just as the Divine Comedy exit the stage that night. Oh well. byeee, Caleb /-(^)-----------------------------------------------------------(^)-----\ | Chester Indie Zine http://www.darkshadow.com/chester | | UKindiePOPdance editor at chester.org.au | \-(v)-----------------------------------------------------------(v)-----/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnk at xxx.gr Thu Apr 22 13:06:18 1999 From: johnk at xxx.gr (John Koliopanos) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:06:18 +0300 Subject: Sinister: B&S in Greece References: <002801be8c56$36401cc0$3e76a7c3@thejag> Message-ID: <371F10B9.75641246@flash.gr> > I'm proud to be a B&S fan and to tell you the truth I enjoy it so > much now that (in Greece > at least) nobody knows them. Oh please! Nobody knows them? Belle and Sebastian are fairly (to say the least) popular in Greece actually. For starters, they've been getting lots of airplay eversince "Dog On Wheels" came out and "Le Pastie" used to be a huge hit at indie clubs about a year and a half ago. Thankfully, "Dirty Dream #2" is now among the few nice things you can listen to at an ordinary night @ Plan B (local indie club) > I want to hear some other opinions.Are there any more record collectors and > 60's fans that > enjoy B&S or that thing here in Greece is just pure coincidence? No, I don't think it's a coincidence. In my humble opinion, Belle and Sebastian have a strong affinity with lighter '60s sounds. Mind you, that doesn't mean that they cannot appeal to non-'60s fans. They can appeal to everyone actually, methinks . . . By the way, YES, France Gall's real name really *is* Isabelle, Lesley-Jo. Funny eh. John x m a r i n e r e s e a r c h http://members.xoom.com/MR_98/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Thu Apr 22 14:31:53 1999 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:31:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: who is correct, Jeepster, Ticketweb or Camber Sands? References: <3.0.6.32.19990421162710.0079fba0@mail.u-net.com> <371DF4C1.AB9C27B4@jeepster.co.uk> Message-ID: <371F24C9.36D3FFB7@jeepster.co.uk> ok the word on the booze is thus ... as it's a licensed site, you're not supposed to take alcohol onto the site, but if you're DISCREET you should be able to get away with it. cheers, Katrina. Katrina House wrote: > > hi, > > shite ... let me make another ten million phone calls and i'll let you > all know, i keep getting ten different answers to every question > regarding this blimmin' festival and i'm going to scream ... :( > > cheers, > katrina. > > > > Now Katrina's mail was posted some time this morning, I think, so who > > is right? Clarification please. > > -- > ************************************************************************ > jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk > http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ > > ***we are moving on april 1st 1999!*** > new postal address is po box 14153, london, sw11 4xu, u.k. > tel: 0171 924 2324, fax: 0171 924 6161 > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ > +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ ***we are moving on april 1st 1999!*** new postal address is po box 14153, london, sw11 4xu, u.k. tel: 0171 924 2324, fax: 0171 924 6161 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Thu Apr 22 14:37:47 1999 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:37:47 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Why does noone talk about smut anymore on this list? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hurrah! I'm going on holiday tomorrow morning. Not to Bowlie, mind; I'm off to Holland for the weekend to play korfball, as exclusively revealed at 9.55 this morning by Simon Mayo on Radio 1. Fame at last... (Well OK, all I did was work out that the mystery year was 1996, but never mind, it's the thought that counts isn't it?) Even if he did announce to the nation that he thought the only reason we were going to Holland was to drink lots of cheap Dutch beer, not to play sport. He is of course entirely correct, but that's not the point. Anyway, before you all go off on your big red bus trip, I did a quick trawl through this week's music press. Both Melody Maker and the NME agree that the best thing about Camber Sands is that they filmed 'Carry On Follow That Camel' there. But what you might not know is that according to the Melody Maker, DJing between bands are, amongst others, Steve Lamacq, John Peel and Jarvis Cocker! Of course, since there's no backstage area at all, that means you've all got 3 days in the company of several living legends... Right, I'm off to pack, when I get back I expect full accounts of who was chalet-hopping with who... Big Stu Now playing: Andy Williams - 'Music To Watch Girls By' o o o, ,o, ,o o o> <|> /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ Hey! Macarena... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vlass at xxx.com Thu Apr 22 15:14:24 1999 From: vlass at xxx.com (vlass at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:14:24 -0400 Subject: Sinister: greece, toronto, london, cambersands, papercuts Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19990422141424.006adb14@mail.interlog.com> good day hello how are you, first, >> I'm proud to be a B&S fan and to tell you the truth I enjoy it so >> much now that (in Greece >> at least) nobody knows them. then johnnnnny k, >Oh please! Nobody knows them? Belle and Sebastian are fairly (to say the least) >popular in Greece actually. yes, it's true that people know about belle and sebastian in greece! i know because even though i'm a toronto-ontario-canada native, i usually spend a month or so in greece every summer. i even saw the only b&s music video i've ever seen one late night on the island i'm sometimes on, and it surprised me so much that i screamed out loud. yes i did. anyway, i'm going there again this summer so i'll be prepared to see the other throngs of fans again. plus, i am going to london for a week at the tail-end of june. i'll be staying with fellow sinisterette debbie, so just to warn you all now - if there is no picnic or equivalent event within those times, we (i?) are ORGANIZING one. YES. *cracks whip* (oh.. anyone interested in a toronto picnic as well? i always talk about it, but it's never actually happened. email me ^^^privately^^^ okay?) to all of you going to bowlie this weekend.. gah, have a wonderful time, you big fools. oh wait, i don't have to tell you that, do i? just be careful, okay? we don't want to hear about any unfortunate accidents involving stuart m & gocarts when you get back. i wannnna read papercuts. i wanna read any zines that sinister lads and lassies may have written because all the ones i have read are so so so good, and not necessarily in that cardie-loving tw** way; they just simply rule. so tell me if you made one. and if you haven't then you can still read mine. it's called melt the snow and there are photos and writing and stuff. i even have a belle and sebastian-y one-shot called (typically) -do something pretty while you can- that you can get. (ps, lesley, have i sent you your copy yet? boo, i can't remember) anyway, i am quietely freaking out because i have this huge exam in a few hours. blah blah blah. see you see you see you teri The trouble with me, Jane thought, as the hill grew steeper, is that I am not the cashmere-sweater type like Marcy: http://members.tripod.com/~meltingsnow/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rehakk at xxx.edu Thu Apr 22 16:01:45 1999 From: rehakk at xxx.edu (Kimberly Rehak) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:01:45 -0400 Subject: Sinister: with our winning smiles... Message-ID: <03d401be8cd1$0a7efae0$9e84c38d@rehakk.alleg.edu> my o my-- hello everyone, i just woke up. the reason that i'm posting is that i just woke up. i had a crazy dream, let's see if i can remember it all... well, i dreamt that i was looking through playboy (which isn't so odd because that is what my friends were doing last night--i know, it's a shame) but i dreamt that the last two episode featured pictures of--well--naked girls but ALSO there was this huge poster of the cover to TBWTAS in the backgroud. but then i dreamt that i wrote to all of you and explained how that poster was in playboy and that subject header i wrote "with our winning smiles..." i think i need to go back to sleep. KIMberly xx "you can't make love out of clay and plastic" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnk at xxx.gr Thu Apr 22 17:12:39 1999 From: johnk at xxx.gr (John Koliopanos) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:12:39 +0300 Subject: Sinister: Look At Me References: <1.5.4.32.19990422141424.006adb14@mail.interlog.com> Message-ID: <371F4A76.5C294793@flash.gr> Hiya Teri and everyone else, > yes, it's true that people know about belle and sebastian in greece! Hey, thanks for backing me up on this. Actually, it occured to me that our Greek-newbie-fellow-listee Panos (my dad's name, btw) might not live in Athens, which sort of justifies the fact that he thinks nobody knows Belle and Sebastian . . . On another note, has anyone else heard GERI HALLIWELL's solo single (hence the subject)? I saw it on MTV today and it's like a million times better than any Spice Girls song (sorry racheeeeee, hope you think so too, though). Nearly as good as "When You're Gone" by Bryan Adams / Mel C. Nearly. People, check this out NOW! By the way, she was also in the studio at Select MTV today, blondie, and looking as gorgeous as ever . . . Yeah, have the time of your lives, all Bowlie-goers! And come back in one piece. Speaking of Papercuts, trous, could you please email your address 'cos, foolishly enough, I forgot to copy it yesterday on IRC. I only remember Jamaica Road and well, London. Thanks in advance. Or you might as well give it me in the chatroom if we come across. Take care everyone, John x x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Putneysays at xxx.com Thu Apr 22 20:51:43 1999 From: Putneysays at xxx.com (Putneysays at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:51:43 EDT Subject: Sinister: Momus is Marvelous Message-ID: <13fc8bc9.2450d7cf@aol.com> Dear Listerines, I know I've promised never to post 'sinister' ever again, but I'm in a dill of a pickle and I don't exactly know how to solve it. Thank you for mentioning Momus, for my dilemma directly refers to him. I don't know if many of you are aware of the karaoke parody competition from the last album, The Little Red Songbook, but I've written Sinister-related lyrics to the song "Who Is Mr. Jones?" and I need some help with them. Suggestions, questions, comments, death threats, and those few gilmmers of praise are welcome. Remember, I am only 15, and therefore nothing but a mere stupid high school kid, so my writing probably is not up to par...however, I liked them. Sort of. So here you go: "Who Is Elvis?" by Susannah Grossman *Inspired by listening to "A Century Of Elvis" from the Belle and Sebastian EP Lazy Line Painter Jane* Stuart David at the height of his fame got asked the same question once, then again In a closet of cardigans. "Tell us, Stu, who really is that Elvis?" Stuart stammered, "ask the 'Sinister' list, they seem to know everything- or ask Jeepster Sub Pop, or wee Karn she's a lot smarter than me, at least she's supposed to sit down when she pees as opposed...to dainty me." Stuart David at the start of his fame got asked the same question once, then again in a closet of cardigans. "Tell us, Stu, who really is that Elvis?" Stuart, probably scared to death looked for a place to run and hide. "Is he a sprig of broccolli, a cat or some pajamas? Does this Elvis like to play in a band with the high llamas?" <--that line is cheesy, someone please help me Poor Stuart is now crying from all of this attention and as he ran away, this is what he was heard to say: "Elvis is and was a man...who rifles through my trash Elvis is, and was a man...who rifles through my trash." So there you have my crappy lyrics, that I wrote last night dreaming of fame and fortune, Momus style. Any disparaging remarks, are welcome, please! -Susannah the Pitiful +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jaguar at xxx.gr Thu Apr 22 20:55:51 1999 From: jaguar at xxx.gr (Panos Karafotias) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:55:51 +0300 Subject: Sinister: Look At Me References: <1.5.4.32.19990422141424.006adb14@mail.interlog.com> <371F4A76.5C294793@flash.gr> Message-ID: <000001be8d01$1e9f6980$4474a7c3@thejag> > Hey, thanks for backing me up on this. Actually, it occured to me that our > Greek-newbie-fellow-listee Panos (my dad's name, btw) might not live in Athens, > which sort of justifies the fact that he thinks nobody knows Belle and Sebastian . . Actually I do live in Athens, but that's not the point.Maybe my fellow citizen John misunderstood me on my last post.When I said "nobody" I thought it was quite obvious that I was referring to it as something much more general than the thing you thought.Ofcourse indie clubs would play B&S.What I was really trying to say is that the rest of Greece plus a great number of people in Athens haven't heard of the band.You can see something like that by checking the charts. I've never paid much attention to these charts btw, but often I have spotted other indie groups climb up quite high (e.g. Mercury Rev) and by that all that I can think is that people still don't know who B&S really are and how great their music can be. Of course I could be wrong, and if I am then it's ok.It's great to discover that many people in the city where I live enjoy B&S. Regards , Panos +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Fri Apr 23 00:19:58 1999 From: kenny at xxx.uk (Jake) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 00:19:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: so what does discreet mean? Message-ID: <199904222320.AAA17387@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Well i've been sitting on the sidelines for months just watching things tick over slowly, without actually saying anything since my initial few months of mailings and now i thought that i'd just pop up again and say hi. I thought that i'd better get a mail in before Bowlie just to let all you fellow sinistereens who are going that i am still around and please let me join in all those special sinister games and picnics that will doubtless be going on. Needless to say that i'll be wearing an upside down badge to let you all now i'm "one of them", and of course i'll also have both my forms of i.d. with me at all time, just incase any of those lovely bluecoats decides to random drug search me and ask me for proof of age for the alcohol that i'll have been drinking discreetly out of licensing hours. Also, if the weather cheers up a bit (it's been really shite the past few days where i am in sussex) there will be the five-a-side footie tournament, it may just be for bands but if not howz about a sinister team? just a thought. see you there jake (aka kenny) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From justin at xxx.com Fri Apr 23 00:35:25 1999 From: justin at xxx.com (Justin Williams) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 18:35:25 -0500 Subject: Sinister: B&S - New Years Eve Gathering? Message-ID: <4.1.19990422181548.00951280@delafont.com> Hello Everyone, This is my first extended post to the list, but hopefully I can be taken seriously about a proposition I have. I have posted a query similar to this on the Trash Can Sinatras list because I'm hoping to start a collaborative effort. I know this is just a dream right now but would it be conceivable to have a B&S fan gathering on New Year's Eve '99? Ideally, I would like to have both TCS and B&S fans there, but I am unsure of the number of people who actually like both bands. It seems like a given to me, but you never know. As I said to the TCS list, it would be preferable not to hold it in New York City or any other major city due to the crowds that will already be there, and I know many B&S fans live outside the states but for convenience maybe there can be a gathering in Europe and in the states. I'm hoping that someone on both lists who has more influence and "seniority" than I will help organize this, but again I am still only dreaming as of right now. B&S and TCS fans are the only people that I sincerely love without having met them. It doesn't matter to me the personalities or appearances of any of them, the love I feel is unconditional. If only this thing can come to pass, I would not know a higher joy =P. Well, that may be a bit much but for the most part I mean it. Toss the subject around and hopefully we can make this happen. If anyone knows about a similar New Year's Eve gathering already in the making I would like to hear about that too. Cheers, Justin W Felonius Monk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From painbirds at xxx.com Fri Apr 23 05:54:29 1999 From: painbirds at xxx.com (Craig-Lee Thompson) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:54:29 PDT Subject: Sinister: Melbourne, rocks... in head Message-ID: <19990423045429.63781.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello, Whilst dancing with Bacardi to the beats of a Belle and Sebastian track, being played at a Smiths/Morrissey tribute night in Melbourne earlier this morning, I had a revelation from the bottom of my glass (and after you hear it i'm sure you will think it came out of my ass). Could it be that the line "she was into SnM and bible studies" has being miss read with the application of a kinky sex under current and actually refers to the fact the lady in question was into The Smiths, Morrissey and bible studies??? I feel this is a significant progression in the debate on lyrical meaning, or I could be just feeling hung-over and due to miss-attribution of my physical state to a mental description I feel significance.... Craig-Lee...... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Fri Apr 23 11:11:55 1999 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:11:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: bomb Message-ID: <3720476B.CD603CD@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Yesterday night , two mig flyed near my house. My house has trembled , coz they passed too near the roof. My city is in the Adriatic sea , and i hear terrible roarings , the bombs. I am a little afraid , cause 2 serbian mig tryed to pass the Adriatic sea 3 days ago , they wanted to bomb Italy.American throwed down these enemys. What can we do? No answer. Sorry for my sorrowful letter. Marco#7. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From M223CMellan at xxx.uk Fri Apr 23 15:34:42 1999 From: M223CMellan at xxx.uk (M223CMellan) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:34:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: IMPORTANT- woo- I'm a catholic schoolboy - hey bruvas Message-ID: <199904231435.OAA24273@mx1.rmplc.co.uk> hello, hello, it's good to be back This is a rather important mail. It's me, the irritating bitchy kiddy 16 year old list baby boy of the list. so how are you? I've been quite ill recently, which is very bad, specially as my highers are approaching in just over a week. but hey! - I'll breeze them (I am officially a genius, after all :) ), but in case I don't could any religiously inclined listees please say a prayer for me. Thanks. and I never did get my own message board on the b&s site. poo. cheeky chappy - I mailed the band asking if I could do some artwork for a cd for them, but was told that they like doing their own. I was hurt - is this how they treat their fans? I've decided to keep bugging them, though. perseverance always pays off, eh? I did a painting for them, based on the bible parable which mrs murdoch sent months ago. It was lovely. unlike me. i sometimes feel unlovely, and unlovable, then I think that it's me vs the world. cheery bye byes goo goo baby chris CRYSTALBALLS +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pbelinsk at xxx.net Fri Apr 23 23:03:56 1999 From: pbelinsk at xxx.net (Molly) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:03:56 -0400 Subject: Sinister: OH! It was THIS weekend? Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990423180356.007bd4c0@northernway.net> To Whom (if anyone)it may concern: OH GEEEEZ! Bowlie was THIS weekend? OH MAN! I like, had tickets and everything... I thought it was NEXT weekend! uhhhhhh... errrr (I know it was a while ago, but I must defend!) Tim Hopkins broke my heart: >Beck courts imperfection by deliberately leaving out anything >resembling a worthwhile tune from his records. It's a fascinating >cultural phenomenon. I like Beck. A lot. And I'd like to know what specifically you mean when you say "nothing resembling a worthwhile tune". Just how can you not like songs like "Beercan", anyway? And "rowboat" and... and... That isn't what we're here to discuss now, is it? I thought not. So, here we are, with no supervision. And no mail, with most of the list gone away. But I just can't sit around with nothing in my inbox! I heard of some alter-Bowlies happening out there. The ones that aren't happening, that's what I'm talking about. I'm going to have one too. I'm going to skip around in circles if it's nice out and ride my bike... 'cept I don't have a ridable bike. Hmm... I'll ride my horse down the road and be in my own parade. I'll throw breadcrumbs to the birds and come back and dream about it. That won't work either. My horse's name is Fanny and we made a mutual agreement two years ago. I would bring her water and food and play with her in exchange for the understanding that I will not put pieces of metal in her mouth and strap things on her back. She prefers to be lazy and roll around in the dirt. I don't blame her. Dirt can make one very happy. I think I'll probably go to the library and get a nice book to read. Then I'll come back and watch the Road Rules marathon. And finish making bags. I'm making ten bags out of blue and white checked gingham. (or is "checked" part of the definition of gingham?) I'm going to put things in them and give them to nice people. They really are more of pouches than bags. I'm a hell of seamstress. Either that or a seamstress from hell... I think my mom's sewing machine and I are going to come to an agreement similar to the one between Fanny and I before I am done. So that will be my Bowlie. Who needs entertainment anyway? What was that about puppet shows? moving along, molly from mali +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk Sat Apr 24 09:57:13 1999 From: pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk (Pamela Hutchinson) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:57:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: My Bowlie Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From mkolmar at xxx.com Sat Apr 24 10:42:19 1999 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 04:42:19 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: smut (WSB) Message-ID: [ In the spirit of the Monday Poem. Delete now if uninterested. ] You're all at the Bowlie, traffic is slow, and it's time for the late-night Friday literatary moment of education. If you don't know who William S. Burroughs is -- He was one of the century's most significant authors. Much of his work is social analysis and social criticism, in the form of fiction that questions the reality structure through themes of mythology, science fiction, and the underbelly of society. >From William S. Burroughs _The Ticket That Exploded_ "The human organism is literally consisting of two halves from the beginning word and all human sex is this unsanitary arrangement whereby two entities attempt to occupy the same three-dimensional coordinate points giving rise to the sordid lattrine brawls which have characterized a planet based on 'the Word,' that is, on separate flesh engaged in endless sexual conflict -- The Venusian Boy-Girls under Johnny Yen took over the Other Half, imposing a sexual blockade on the planet-- (It will be readily understandable that a program of systematic frustration was necessary in order to sell this crock of sewage as Immortality, the Garden of Delights, and love --" [...] "So let us start with one average, stupid, representative case: Johnny Yen the Other Half, errand boy from the death trauma -- Now look i'm going to say it and i'm going to say it slow -- Death -is- orgasm -is- rebirth -is- death in orgasm -is- their unsanitary Venusian gimmick -is- the whole birth death cycle of action -- You got it? -- Now do you understand who Johnny Yen is? The Boy-Girl Other Half strip tease God of sexual frustration -- Errand boy from the death trauma -- His immortality depends on the mortality of others -- The same is true of -all- addicts -- " [...] >From _Nova Express_ "Word is flesh and word is two that is the human body is compacted of two organisms and where you have two you have word and word is flesh and when they started tampering with the word that was it and the blockade was broken and The Nova Heat moved in -- The Venusians sang first naturally they were in the most immediate danger -- They live underwater in the body with an air line - And that air line is the word - Then the technicians spilled and who can blame them after the conditions I assigned to keep them technicians -- Like three thousand years in hot claws -- So I am alone as always -- You understand nova is where I am born in such pain no one else survives in one peace -- Born again and again cross the wounded galaxies -- I am alone but not what you call 'lonely' -- Loneliness is a product of dual mammalian structure -- 'Loneliness,' 'love,' 'friendship,' all of the rest of it -- I am not two -- I am one -- But to maintain my state of oneness I need two ness in other life forms -- Others must talk so that I am remain silent -- If another becomes one then I am two -- That makes two ones make two and I am no longer one -- Plenty of room in space you say? -- But I am not one in space I am one in time -- Metal time -- Radioactive time -- So of course I tried to keep you all out of space -- That is the end of time -- And those who were allowed out sometimes for special services like creating a useful religious concepts went always with a Venusian guard -- All the 'mystics' and 'saints' -- All except my old enemy Hassan I Sabbah who wised up the marks to space and said they could be one and need no guard no other half no word --" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sat Apr 24 14:28:41 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 06:28:41 PDT Subject: Sinister: Have At It With Your Scottish! Message-ID: <19990424132842.86740.qmail@hotmail.com> Good morning Sinister, I`m very much excited! I now know were Stuart Murdoch came from! no no,dont tell me start off with the usual jokes `well his mummy and daddy loved each other very much`... he came from Murdoch The Stunted! I was watching this video `Scotland And Your Scottish Ancestry` and it was saying how a LONG LONG LONG time ago there was two enemies, Hector and Ian The Toothless. Well Hector put Ian The Toothless in some isolated place,so he wouldn`t be in the company of women and wouldn`t have an heir.One of Hectors maid-servants sent him over,and she was so ugly they didn`t think it possible,but they did---- and Murdoch The Stunted was born! now this history is interesting!Oh..I swear IT,I am going to live in Scotland,it`s so beautiful! It reminds me a lot of quebec actually..I`m so sick of `Upper and Lower Canada` there`s not that much richness,in it being so new,they try and squeeeeze every little un-interesting fact out. But this! Gosh.,aren`t the 90`s so terribly boring! Well this whole century really,I would`ve much preferred to be a princess in the castles and knights and those times. I would of befriended Murdoch The Stunted and we would frolick in the endless fields and mountains and pick wild-flowers.Really,we would. I also learned about the scottish accent,and they showed the `Glasgow` accents, wow thats some fast talking...so OUR Murdoch The Stunted really sounds like that? hee hee hee! to achieve this,you have to talk from under the tongue you know. This list needs more stories like Joss`s and his mums shop! I have to agree...maybe if you wrote something kind of ooh la la on the money,it would get attention,but some people, they will give you candy & money and you just feel more like ``hmmm...im taking his money!`` and especially if its a funny little bearded man,or a funny little boy who gets you to draw strange pictures for him. have fun and bless your little hearts in bowlie! love....genevieve p.s Molly..was that a joke? did you really forget about Bowlie? OH MAN! That is like,the mega mega supremem `D`OH!` if i ever saw it! The `d`oh!` must be echoing all the way to Camber! ah well, these things happen,i have a bad memory too,but its normally i make some juice,and forget about it,and then its left out there type of things. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pbelinsk at xxx.net Sat Apr 24 14:41:27 1999 From: pbelinsk at xxx.net (Molly) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:41:27 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Have At It With Your Scottish! In-Reply-To: <19990424132842.86740.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990424094127.007c12f0@northernway.net> >Molly..was that a joke? did you really forget about Bowlie? OH MAN! >That is like,the mega mega supremem `D`OH!` if i ever saw it! The >`d`oh!` must be echoing all the way to Camber! ah well, these things >happen,i have a bad memory too,but its normally i make some juice,and >forget about it,and then its left out there type of things. No, it was just me being dumb. har har +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From melissa.thornton at xxx.ca Sat Apr 24 18:50:45 1999 From: melissa.thornton at xxx.ca (MelissaThornton) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:50:45 -0400 Subject: Sinister: i stole my sister's bike Message-ID: <37220475.8A6A2A0C@utoronto.ca> well...i stole my sister's bike to ride to the library this morning...my legs are still aching...i saw two little boys playing jump-rope on the way back to my house...i haven't played jump-rope in such a long time. i think a toronto picnic is a spanking good idea...maybe i can convince someone to play jump-rope with me there... oh, won't someone play jump-rope with me? yours, etc emily +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.uk Sun Apr 25 02:13:23 1999 From: honey at xxx.uk (Honey) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 01:13:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Bowlie Drunk and ONLINE! Message-ID: <199904250013.BAA16003@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> An absent mummy writes: Words cannot express how embarrassed your list mummy is at this raw display of arch-nerdery, but if the 900 people on Sinister who didn't get to Bowlie happn to get this mail, whizzed to you via the ether from my chalet, it's just a little gesture from us all to make you feel a little better (or worse, maybe). I passed around my little green portable sinister screen in the Pontins "Traditional English Pub" and this is what came out when it got back to me. Needless to say they serve beer in this pub, and the beer is so bad, Tim Hopkins keeps having to taste it for us. While I'm here a few little vignettes: 1. David Moore being mistaken for John Peel by a really sincere American, who's been worshipping Mr Peel for decades. He was crestfallen to discover that "John" was in fact not "John", but someone who makes a profession out of telling jokes about having sex in toilets. 2. Stuart Murdoch driving around the site in a big red van with an even bigger big red grin on his face - Postman Pat. 3. Andreas Herring who used to be One Of Us seen in a corner with Stuart talking for about two hours about... presumably the Jasmine Minks. 4. Momus turning up at the Sinister do at tremendous do at the Betsey Trotswoods pub on the Thursday night, and "liking Chris Leonard". He's taken. 5. Stephen Pastel dancing. 6. The stuff about Jarvis Cocker below is really true - he's walking around trying to look non-chalant and looking very chalant. Everyone's pretending to not know who he is. List mummy kisses from the concentration camp of the south, back on Monday, stick the kettle on - honey xxx --- Keith ejaculates: Me and Chris have a remote wanking machine and we're using it to toss off random pop stars. It's a top toy, like Danny's tranny except ruder. --- Rachee: you are missing me! what more can i say. ps, this place rocks. --- Trousers exclaims: the sinister football team did you proud, going out on pens in the final.... --- Linda Kerr ruminates: Hopelessly too many people here to see everyone..... --- Pushkin & Brioche declare: Does anyone know how to get to our chalet? We've been stuck in the pub for 37 hours, every path leads back here! --- Holly Woodlawn: Still searching for a wet banana..... --- Andy Seymour: done bugger all since being introduced to chris and keiths remote wanking device.... --- JJ here, I shagged everyone and then I did it again, I don't think they noticed, I am having a nice time and i feel a bit ill, I wish I was here. I love you. xxx --- Steady Mike reporting Like a huge steel cock pulsing pure entertaintment custard into the moist mouth of the sinister massive, Camber Sands has delivered its load. On time and warm to boot. Vic G stamped his inherent magnificence into the face of everyone present and people were grateful. Blah blah blah beer, etc. --- hello, this is Chris live from the pub in camber sands. only it's not live is it. i'm drunk and having a splendid time and talking about entertainment custard. miss honey has requested i tell a story right now so here you go. we all know that stuart lee majors is a musical genius. he fucking rules. but what you probably didn't know is that he is also an electronic genius too. one day he invented the most incredible device in the whole world ever - the electronic remote wanking machine! with this device he could wank off any living beast from any distance. at first he tried it out on himself, and it worked a treat. then he tried it on his dog, and ditto - success! love from chris ---- Hey you lot, we're at the bowlie fest. And our auto wanking machine is working a treat. We're all clubbing together at the moment to wank Peter Miller off. Using the power of our minds. Love Keithy Dee. --- Fluffy Sarah wrote something but she told me to "blimmin well delete it" because it wasn't funny (this wasn't true). It contained the phrase "KEITH IS STILL WANKING the freak". --- andy dean from his big hairy bowlie cave says: umm, we've nambled all day and now it's time for pambling. wish you were here. actually, most of you are... --- elisapet says (from the pub) Bands? What bands? We haven't left the pub all weekend except for to watch Bowlie TV. Oh and Chris Leonard had the brillint idea that we should pre-marinate sheep so that they come ready in different flavours. Don't you wish you were here? --- Benjamin notes: Paunchy John, who sells the beer at the Queen Vic, is currently under the influence of the Keith & Chris remote wanking device and can only mutter "Gaaaah... 'ave another?" --- Mister T. Hopkins adds... Think of yourself swimming in an olympic-sized swimming pool filled with lager, stout, gin and some other unidentified fluid. Now imagine (almost) all your favourite sinisterines skinny dipping in the pool . There, wasn't that fun? Don't believe a word of what they have said. The whole weeked has been a rainy washout. the high point being Keith Watson winning the knobbly knee contest. No alcohol is allowed on site, everybody here is horrible and I have just been invited to guest on the forthcoming Pink Floyd LP. I wish I was back in Sidmouth. Remember kids,getting drunk doesn't take away the pain. Tim --- Thom Hopkins feels my pain. Keith --- Susannah aka nubblybumps//nippybutts/honeymuff/tittyflump writes: Yes. Bollocks to the other posts, you know you can rely on me to spill it, baby. Let me entertain you: 1) Stuart Murdoch has orange and black striped pyjamas, Mick has little boys blue and white paisley ones, Isobel has a nightie with ribbons and bunny rabbits, and Stuart David sleeps in his nothings. Fresh as the day he was born. 2) Jarvis Cocker smokes nicorette fags, and went paddling in the sea in his suit. 3)When the Sinister cum looper boys did the football thang. Trousers' pants ffell down and we all saw his winky. It wasn't impressive. No, really it wasn't. 4) Above all the topic of conversation is gaining your brown wings. 300 in total last night. And thats just the sinister lot........... 5) Overheard in Sinister corner: Tim Hopkins 'The trick to singing like Louis Armstrong is not to use any consonants at all' Chris Leonard to any passer by 'I'm wanking you off on my wank machine' Joss 'Chris, you're moving your hand too fast' Sarah 'If I go up and take a picture of Stuart murdoch, will he think i'm a geek?' Trousers 'Who saw my winky?' Honey 'You,ve got to tickle it, ooh I felt a twinge' Tag 'Wycombe 2 Manchester City 1' Keith Watson 'Nice bit of Huey Lewis' Laurel Girvan 'Susannah has such a nice ass' she really said that. Thats unedited. Thats it kids. xx --- Joss says: I fancy ChrisLeonard. Honestly. He's a fox. Last night I fell on the dancefloor and landed on my chin. I am a fool. Love joss --- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From afinkenbinde at xxx.Edu Sun Apr 25 04:43:46 1999 From: afinkenbinde at xxx.Edu (Annie Finkenbinder) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 23:43:46 -0400 Subject: Sinister: steroids etc.(somewhat on-topic) Message-ID: <001201be8ecd$d31d3860$5501680a@AFinkenbinde.Rollins.edu> Hello -- I have been getting Sinister mail for a very long time, and I think I've only posted twice. Can't think of anything to say unless asking about tour dates... you know how it is. maybe. Anyway, I am sitting in my dorm room with cinder block walls, heavily drugged due to a sunburn and the following allergic reaction to anti-sunburn itch spray. thus, the steroids, and accompanying jitteriness.. I am never going outside again! not even to swim. this is what I am thinking about: is it a guarantee that a person who is into belle and sebastian will be nice? they seem like a group that would exclusively attract people I will like, but maybe there are some asses, some really irritating people... I don't know. ok now I will remain silent for a few more years, reappearing only when another american tour does. I must apologize for the babbling. it's the body-building drugs. really! -Annie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary.parkinson at xxx.uk Sun Apr 25 13:25:29 1999 From: gary.parkinson at xxx.uk (Gary Parkinson) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 13:25:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: My Own Private Hi-De-Hi Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19990425121355.1a171286@MCR1.poptel.org.uk> Dear Chickpeas Bowlie? Ha! I spit on your Hi-De-Hi antics! I wouldn't have gone even if i could've. So I decided to have my own festival right here in Gazzoid Mansions, romantically located in the steaming heart of Whalley Range, on the mouldering crust of Manchester. All my friends are here, some of them are even knitted and stuffed with kapok. We have drunk cider from a really big bottle and now we're all really pissed. Oops. My trousers just fell down. We have posters of all our favourite popstars lined up on the walls and we are licking them with our tongues. Spike out of 911 has virtually no face left, just some sodden paper and a blob of spittle. It's a good look for him. I am dressed as Sue Pollard, and as I haven't been able to come up with a remote wanking machine, I'm having to do it by hand. Most people don't seem to mind. My tape player is broke (I threw it out the window into the swimming pool because I don't have a TV - I don't have a swimming pool either, I made that bit up; but there were some small puddles on account of it raining all weekend), so we've been singing for entertainment. 'D'Oh! A Deer' is very popular, mainly because it's the only one I know all the words to. And 'Sexy Boy' by Air. Anyway, I'll have to go now, I'm having an excitement-induced heart attack. If I can find my way back to my chalet/back bedroom. Aren't all you Bowlie kids jealous now? Gloves and mittens, Gazzoid, camping it up on his own. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ihamilt at xxx.com Sun Apr 25 12:25:28 1999 From: Ihamilt at xxx.com (Ihamilt at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 07:25:28 EDT Subject: Sinister: My Own Private Hi-De-Hi Message-ID: <5770d1f5.245455a8@aol.com> Thats quite simply the funniest post ive read on here in a long time. I salute you sir. My entire Bowlie type festivities consisted of a packed dance floor (The Attic, Irvine High Street) frugging to " The Boy with the Arab Strap". Well not quite packed, there was only me and Susan and some scary looking guy who danced to every song, all night, with one hand behind is back and the other making funny aeroplane type movements. The night was spoiled somewhat when i saw some horible wee ned throw a bottle at this guy , seemingly for wearing make up. And even thats tenuosly Bowlie esque,a s such incidents caused the "rebranding" of Butlins in Ayr, former workplacee of Stuart Murdoch and intended venue for the Bowlie. Anyway, im off back to bed. have fun iain +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkorchia at xxx.fr Sun Apr 25 14:19:34 1999 From: mkorchia at xxx.fr (Michael Korchia) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 15:19:34 +0200 Subject: Sinister: lucksmiths Message-ID: <37231666.B5EBC2BE@club-internet.fr> A message i've been asked to send I guess this is not off topic! You might have been fortunate enough to catch a glimpse of the fabulous Lucksmiths trio opening for Belle & Sebastian on three of the european dates last fall. If you did, or if you're curious, you might want to check out their wonderful new full-length CD called "Happy Secret", just released on their home label Candle Records. For more info, have a look ontheir web site (www.candlerecords.co.au) __^o^__ Michael Korchia mkorchia at club-internet.fr Watoo Watoo Homepage : http://www.multimania.com/watoo/ Mumbly Homepage : http://www.multimania.com/aurore/emumbly.htm +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bellequasi at xxx.com Sun Apr 25 15:02:50 1999 From: Bellequasi at xxx.com (Bellequasi at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 10:02:50 EDT Subject: Sinister: mystery song(no b&s) Message-ID: <8ec34751.24547a8a@aol.com> there's a song i heard the other day , an old one , and i was wondering if anyone might know them name of it and the title. I've heard the song before and ran the tune by my mom hoping she'd know but she couldn't name it for me. so hear it goes, the only line i know is, and this is only slightly right-"she was a day tripper..." then it theres a part where it gets more upbeat and goes "hey! hey! hey!" then theres a cute little horn part i think. help me please it's been in my head for days, i need to know!! kristie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjc51 at xxx.uk Sun Apr 25 16:30:46 1999 From: pjc51 at xxx.uk (Phil Cowans) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 15:30:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: mystery song(no b&s) References: <8ec34751.24547a8a@aol.com> Message-ID: <37233526.50B86206@hermes.cam.ac.uk> How about 'day tripper' by the beatles? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aemcallister at xxx.uk Sun Apr 25 17:41:39 1999 From: aemcallister at xxx.uk (Paul McAllister) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 16:41:39 -0000 Subject: Sinister: a nervous boy writes..... Message-ID: <003001be8f3a$7e919da0$2feab094@default> hello there, fellow sinisterettes and esses (correct terminology?). Well, this being my first posting, I am am a wee bit apprehensive but have just about overcome my nervousness. I shouldn't be nervous really. Most of you are at Bowlie anyway. I really have fallen in love with the world of b&s over the last four months or so. I had thought being a relative newcomer would result in perhaps being shunned in some way, but you all seem such a friendly lot I don't mind admitting I hadn't heard anything by the band until January. The first song I heard was It Could Have Been a Brilliant Career. It was on a long coach journey to Suffolk for some geography fieldwork and I'd borrowed TBWTAS off a friend. ICHBABC took me by surprise - it was nothing like I expected (i had some preconcieved view, can't recall what) but I absolutely loved it. I listened to the rest of the album in somewhat of a trance. When I got to the end, I sat in silence for a few minutes pondering what I'd heard. The last album that had such a profound effect on me with the first listening listening had been The Stone Roses. I knew I'd just heard something very special so immediately began the album again and sat for an another hour in my own little world. Over the weekend that followed (which consisted of a series of very very boring (and freezing cold) fieldwork experiments) I found every possbile opportunity to sneak back to my room and listen to a bit more of the album. By the time I got home I was completely hooked. I went straight out and bought TBWTAS and got sinister at the same time. Sinister didnt have *quite* the same effect on the first listening but has since grown on me immensely and now I couldn't choose between the two. Over the month following my fieldtrip, I got hold of the four EPs and began a desperate search for Tigermilk. I found out pretty quickly that it was going to be very hard (or rather expensive, being a student) to get hold of. I have now got a copy but only on tape, I'm afraid. Well, four months on, and if anything I love the band even more. They've even taken the place of the Stone Roses as the most played band on my stereo (actually with the exception of Mogwai and Godspeed You Black Emporer, they're virtually the only band on my stereo). Well, I've rambled on enough for my first posting so I'll leave you in peace. Bowlie should be in full swing now. What I'd give to be there....... cheers -paul- PS if there are any other people on the list from Milton Keynes then I'd love to hear from you. This town really bores me. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eliam at xxx.edu Sun Apr 25 19:58:28 1999 From: eliam at xxx.edu (Marie Elia) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 99 14:58:28 -0400 Subject: Sinister: you gotta fight for yr right.... Message-ID: <199904251859.OAA15914@pellns.alleg.edu> dearest sinister-- yes, well, while you lot are having yr tw** little shenanigans in nambly-pambly camber sands, miss kimmy and i got to strut our stuff at... a Beastie-Boys-&-Kielbasa party! yes, hours upon hours of nothing but the beastie boys, and the fare included kielbasa (mmm, charred on a little portable grill on the porch) and beer. guests included a bunch of drunken students trying to find the beat and groove to it, not to mention very poor rapping and lots of 'raising the roof'. i personally spent the night taking pictures (being sober due to an evil stomach flu) and heading to the porch to battle the smoke from the grill with my cigarette smoke... sometime around 11:30, kimmy and i let up a rousing cry of "bollocks on bowlie!" hey, we had the beastie boys! anyway, i find it terribly amusing that honey and other sinister folk found time and relative lucidity to let us in on the bowlie happenings.... internet dorks of the world unite! xo, marie ps-- kim -- was that embarrassing? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rehakk at xxx.edu Mon Apr 26 01:56:37 1999 From: rehakk at xxx.edu (Kimberly Rehak) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 20:56:37 -0400 Subject: Sinister: i fought for my right...last night Message-ID: <05b101be8f7f$a37190e0$9e84c38d@rehakk.alleg.edu> in marie's post referring to the beastie boys/kielbasa party we attended last night she forget to mention that i got married! at 12:05 this morning [eastern time] my friend and i got married. it was the first marriage for both. sadly, though, after he left the party--i lost my husband. we were divorced. :( i think i am going to make a shirt that says "instead of going to bowlie, i got married" wadda ya say? besides that, i can't feel the right side of my bum. i think when i was not paying attention someone shot some novocaine in my bum. if i ever find out who did this to me, i am going to confront him, tell him what an evil evil man he is (because this CAN NOT be the work of a woman), then run to my cinderblock hole, relay to my bunny the brave thing i just did, and have her pat me on the back for all of my commendable fortitude. how about this one for a shirt: "instead of going to bowlie, i got numb in the bum" eh? eh? well, by recording all of this information for all of you, i am ever-so-gallantly skipping my Germanistik (is that right?). test tomorrow! tata~ KIMberly xx the recently divorced (recently SINGLE) girl "you can't make love out of plastic and clay" ps. if anyone wants to hear a really good joke about a leper, email me privately +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Mon Apr 26 02:44:56 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:44:56 PDT Subject: Sinister: beware the jubjub bird Message-ID: <19990426014457.47901.qmail@hotmail.com> I look around and it looks pretty quiet...I am awaiting the flood of stories come monday and tuesday! I won`t comment on some of those particularly rude and rambunctious (that`s a word,yes?) news from bowlie but i am particulary enthralled with Stuart Murdoch driving a big red van around the site. It`s a lovely image,yes? I`ll bet he has a healthy glow,coconut sunscreen, the sea air in his lungs,the pale limbs finally seeing the sun after a long winter in the studio... Stuart David---"fresh as the day he was born"?? now you`re just teasing me! its too much..its overload you know!! on saturday i went to a job fair,cos i`m going to get a job so i can go to future bowlies,sadly,i must say,most of these jobs were for college and university diploma holders only,techie stuff, i took the chocolate kisses off their desks,and that was as far as my interest got. I also checked out all the new bikinis and tankinis,to kind of make-pretend i was in a more summery-resort,and sadly, HONEY,this should be of interest to you,not too much at all,some ugly plaids and overpowering yeloows. I wonder in Stuart was going around shaking every 3000 one of your hands,being the perfect little host? oh dear sinisterines,i have only vivid little dreams to play with! Gunther hasn`t even mailed me! Did any of you see him? He`s quite tall,he`s hard to miss,he`s quite the original.I`m worried though,sometimes he doesn`t work well with others,i hope everyone was nice to him. bye bye, L!U!V!... gen ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Mon Apr 26 03:22:14 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:22:14 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Bowlie: Bloody Amazing Message-ID: <199904252222_MC2-735C-3B01@compuserve.com> Hi fragrant Sinistereens (& you sweaty, smoky, beer-soaked ones as well) Tales From the Front Line: Others will talk more eloquently & intelligently about the phenomenon that was The Bowlie. These are just some snapshots before the daylight of advancing years erases the emulsion of my memory (In The Canyons Of My Mind) Having gone to Camber to see Belle & Sebastian play we resolved to actually see them. Therefore we started by queuing outside the doors of Stage 1 at about twenty to four. Having been admitted, we sauntered to the barrier where we remained for the next 6 hours until they stepped on stage(Thanks go to kind neighbour on the left who swelled to twice his normal size to keep my place whilst I dashed off after Broadcast to empty my bladder which had swelled.......well, I guess you get the idea. The guys on either side of me changed three times whilst I was there!) Cornelius were entertaining, Ladybug Transistor were pretty (& had cool guitar straps), Broadcast were pretty entertaining (I love Come on Lets Go & The Booklovers, and the new stuff sounded great also), Mercury Rev were amazingly good (I had expected them to be pretty weedy, like that album) and then there was Belle & Sebastian. Honey has a copy of the setlist, and can put it on the Sinisterweb. Bits I liked: Everything!, and Stuart doing a little Steps dance during The Wrong Girl (Stevie sings "true love" & SM holds his hands over his heart/Stevie sings "looking" and SM shades his eyes to scan the horizon). Stuart had to have the words to If You're Feeling Sinister in front of him (but still fluffed them at one point) but his face broke into a smile and confidence grew when the audience joined him on the chorus. Sarah had an enormous grin on her face the whole time. Monica Queen: how can so much vocal power come out of one so small? Stuart playing sax, as well as trumpet. (Sinister smut injection: he couldn't finger his horn properly until he'd wet the tip sufficently. Come to that, earlier it took 4 guys to lift Chris' organ on stage.) The whole band rocking out on The Kids Are Alright, with Chris playing bass and singing so loud the veins stood out on his neck (Mick sang really well also). The sound was crystal clear (merci beaucoup a l'ingenieur du son extraordinaire, et pardonnez moi, votre nom m'echappe au moment). It was great, one of the best gigs I've been to and thanks to all concerned. Please show the video on Channel 4 not MTV, because I don't have cable or satellite (& neither does Katrina!) Love to All, & I hope all those at Camber Sands can get home in an hour and a quarter too! DM,C,UK - (Hi Chris!) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Mon Apr 26 03:22:10 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:22:10 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Bowlie: Das Leben ist wie eine Huhneleiter Message-ID: <199904252222_MC2-735C-3B00@compuserve.com> Hi All Sorry this is bad (but it is also short.) This is to curse the evil security man at the B&S Bowlie gig (the only one in the black shirt). There may have been an edict from the band for no flash photography, but the malevolent delight he took in carrying this out: diving on people, seizing their cameras, ripping out their films to expose them (their treasured Bowlie holiday snaps!) was beyong disgusting. I'm glad the band were not aware of this going on or they would have been made more nervous than they (at times) seemed to be. At one time he lunged on top of me without warning, pushing me down to grab another poor fan's camera. I hope he receives his just deserts if not in this then a subsequent life. Apologies for sending bad vibes to the list but I had to get it out of my system. Otherwise the gig and weekend were absolutely fantastic (positive post to follow) and all other Topguard personnel were invariable courteous & helpful. David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Mon Apr 26 04:18:57 1999 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake E. Hamilton) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 23:18:57 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Well don't get saucy... Message-ID: <000901be8f93$8649caa0$304e1198@wfu.edu> O Mass of Sass, I'd just like to wish happy wishes to everyone who is now blurry eyed and attempting to read the fuzzy screen, but if the grain alcohol and rain water just makes things too jumpy and pixelated, I'll still be happy if you save this email, go get some rest, and read it upon second morning wink. If anyone does care, my weekend was very nonchalant and uneventful. It got a little chilly over here in North Carolina. But alas, the windows stayed open and damn it, I enjoyed it. Gen Wesley had the most adorable post yesterday so I actually had the cahoonas to tell her! Good Lord what is happening to me? Maybe it's a social revelation, or maybe it's the Dr. Pepper in my tummy. My real point for writing the 1000 and somethin group is let all you London folk know that I am going to be in your neighborhood starting May 11th. I will be arriving and staying London (don't know exactly, probably significantly downtown-ish if I can even call it that) on the 11th and 12th, then after staying in Paris for two nights, I will be back for the 15th and 16th. So if anyone 1) wants to meet me, which if you do, ah crumbs! or 2) wants to tell me what little indie shops to visit, pubs to go to, et al, I would uphold my online policy of giving anyone helpful copious amounts of crumpets and such. I'm thinking picnic in my honor (don't laugh), or maybe if we can't do that, you can all throw sandwiches and carafes of brandy at the screen simultaneously, making me feel a wee bit better. AND--on top of that, if anyone (i know I'm one of the many) wants to graciously do a Bowlie B&S tape for me, that'd be just grand! I'm not sure if everyone knows, but da Who are my favorite-est group on the globe, and when I heard they did a version of The Kids are Alright, my heart exploded. So I'm asking for a lot of generosity, and like a good cake, I hope there's enough to go around. Love, Blake p.s. I didn't know Jarvis was Bowlie bound too! Boy O boy do I live on the wrong side of the pond....cheers! ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ "I am not Jesus, though I have the same initials." - Jarvis Cocker +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Mon Apr 26 04:35:06 1999 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 23:35:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: dreamer Message-ID: hi everyone i had a busy weekend, i worked on a film set the whole time. in fact, i really did forget about bowlie for all of friday, and saturday. it was a shock to me to remember this morning, and then i ended up forgetting about it. i won't bore you with the details, if you know me, i will tell you anyway. i'm sure i'll be told how wonderful it was a dozen times by friends intent on torturing me (and you know who you are). but this weekend, i remembered what it means to fall in love with a song. i don't know what state of mind you have to be in to fall in love this way, to feel like you're flying when all you're doing is listening to a shitty bootleg over a computer. aptly enough, it was a magnetic fields song, "moviestar". and after months of confusion, i remembered what makes all this worthwhile. it isn't about having eighty cds or going to see any number of concerts, it's not quantity. it's for that one moment when you hear the perfect sound, and it's just exquisite. and you become part of something much greater than yourself. and you realize that beauty exists, and all you want to do is create it, or perhaps find it and hone it, as it may be to much suggesting that one person can create beauty. i'd best stop now before everyone starts making fun of me. but that's my weekend, boiled down to one moment. xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu who are magnetic fields? http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ updated 4/3/99 mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu who are magnetic fields? http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ updated 4/3/99 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lyricjunkie at xxx.com Mon Apr 26 12:44:43 1999 From: lyricjunkie at xxx.com (headrush city) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 04:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Camberwanking just for practice Message-ID: <19990426114443.5223.rocketmail@web305.yahoomail.com> Welcome back all you luckylucky girls and boys who got to go to Bowlie. It was nice, if a bit provocative to the little green-eyed monster, to receive the letter home from the front letting us know you managed to preserve honour in the ranks by successfully fulfilling gangwanking expectations. List mummy really does love all his progeny :) Now all of us poor wretches left behind crying into our spunk-topped Frosties (I think the reading on the smut-o-meter just went astral) expect everyone who was there to split duties, delegate tasks and get your "Stu M breathed in my direction" selves organised into reporting: offical timetable activities (gig reviews); extra-curricular shenanigans (between-music carryings-on aimed in the general direction of fun); regulation-defying commotions (anything sticking a cheeky tongue out at the rules - gin in Evian bottles, anyone?). Honeyboy, have you considered a special Bowlie warpzone on the site? " What's he saying? I'm just a pig and it flies?" My 12-year-old sister's take on Up A Tree track 3. Love 'n' stuff, Natasha xxx _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From e.brown at xxx.com Mon Apr 26 14:47:58 1999 From: e.brown at xxx.com (Emanuel Brown) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 06:47:58 -0700 Subject: Sinister: how high's the water mama? Message-ID: just sitting here awaiting the flood of blurry memories from the luckier among us. so far it hasn't even gotten up past the sidewalk... so the rent became whisky & my life became risky: had to console my non-bowlie-goin'-self with mountains of new records, 24-hour plays, afternoon cocktails and springtime women. spent sunday speeding through manhattan on the back of a motorcycle (highly recommended). none of this compares to the lubricated exploits of our far-flung foreign correspondents, but hey, you do what you can... *oh!* i did happen to find a nice bootleg of b&s @ the supper club last november in nyc (sorry - i know that bootlegs are the spawn of satan to bands & labels alike, but i couldn't resist after not being able to go to the shows). a double-disc set of both nights, the sound is pretty damn good considering it probably didn't come off the board (crowd shufflings and the like). comments? questions? private emails please, you know the drill... i'm gonna shine out in the wild silence: saw a great band two weeks ago that demands your attention. Macha is from athens, ga. and they managed to enchant my friends and i with trance-inducing visions of indonesia. their self-titled record on jetset records (nyc) is truly unbelievable. also on the short list: tom waits / mule variations silver jews / american water lambchop / what another man spills mogwai / come on die young neutral milk hotel / on avery island okay that's enough of that. i can see the flood is nearing the front steps, so i need to make a hasty retreat back to shadowland. be well... emanuelx Free, fast e-mail accessible anytime, anywhere http://www.imaginemail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Victoria.Rees at xxx.com Mon Apr 26 16:26:11 1999 From: Victoria.Rees at xxx.com (Victoria Rees) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:26:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bowlie live pics Message-ID: <0007698B.N22024@ft.com> Just thought you all might be interested that the NME website (www.nme.com) has a very nice live pic of Stuart from last night. It seems that the photographer managed to escape the evil security men. There's also one of him grinning like a mad fool, taken somewhere on site. It might be a small compensation for anyone who had the film ripped from their camera.... What a fantastic weekend it was, if only we didn't have to come home and back to work. I failed to meet any other sinister sorts since I didn't become aquainted with the notice board until it was too late, but it was all very lovely anyway....the highlights for me were: The fantastic Lazy Line Painter Jane..... Mogwai Eating angel delight while watching Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory... Vicky **************************************************************************************** *Please visit the web site of the Financial Times at http://www.ft.com * * * *This E-Mail is intended for the use of the addressee only and may contain confidential* *information. 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Mon Apr 26 23:10:40 1999 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:10:40 -0400 Subject: Sinister: standing tonguetied in the corner Message-ID: <000101be9031$bd132ba0$0a1e05d1@tinystar> hi sinistereeeees, welcome back from bowlie, those of you who were compelled to brave the scary prospect of social interaction and reach out and touch someone in a non-virtual way. did any list snogs become real-life snogs? come along, dish the gossip. i, of course, was not there, choosing instead to, er, stay home. i wanted to go, i reallyreally did, but it was not to be. i assumed my karmic reason would take months or even years to reveal itself, but no...even my nurses uniform couldn't frighten away the dreadful kissing disease. so really, it's for the best that i wasn't there to singlehandedly pass around mono and put a chunk of the sinister list out of commission. i don't understand it, though, i haven't been kissing anybody, no elbows and no reflections. could i have been corrupted by salacious stuart murdoch thoughts? discuss. "i'm a drama queen if that's your thing, baby" i want jell-o. now. much love but no kisses (for purely hygenic reasons, you understand), jessicaxo * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * someone had spied on us, i suppose, as we sat beside the canal and ate the sandwiches, drinking not even orangeade or coca-cola but hot milk out of a thermos. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * t i n y s t a r @ w o r l d y . c o m (it's lovely being a girl) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Tue Apr 27 00:40:57 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:40:57 -0400 Subject: Sinister: The Dogs Bowlies Message-ID: <199904261941_MC2-7380-F25D@compuserve.com> Hi All, Sorry to keep going on, but who else do I talk to about this? Other Bowlie bits that might have been missed by other Sinistereens too busy getting rat-arsed in the genuine East End glamour of the Queen Vic: Sodastream who were excellent, especially when joined by Mick on trumpet for Boss & another number I don't know the name of. Boss has a tune pretty enough to make you fill up, especially when combined with Karl's voice. Pete humps a mean bass too, & I'm not referring to carrying it on stage :) Apparently they're playing again at Rough Trade on Friday evening. V Twin (I have to agree with Mr Leonard about the excellence of their singer) contained Mick & Sarah & were also joined for a couple of numbers by Stevie on harmonica and Stuart M for a 40 second trumpet break on one song also. Mogwai who combined sartorial elegance with a massive set on Saturday night. I'd never been able to get into them before but they were brilliant live. My son James has now bequeathed all his 5 Mogwai tapes to me. Non Bowlie content: Short Looper article here (sheds some light on the Karla Valderama story): http://www.topmag.co.uk/inter2.htm PS: its been drawn to my attention that some of my posts are, in contrast to most sex-crazed Sinistereens, impenetrable, so for those of you for whom English is not the mother tongue, The Dogs Bollocks is a widely used English term of approbation: hence the subject. If your understanding of bollocks is limited: search the archives! Bye bye, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hopkinstim at xxx.com Tue Apr 27 09:07:47 1999 From: hopkinstim at xxx.com (Tim Hopkins) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:07:47 PDT Subject: Sinister: A matter of some considerable concern Message-ID: <19990427080747.7899.qmail@hotmail.com> Dear Sirs, It has been brought to my attention that some fat shambling drunk was at the Bowlie festival passing himself off as me. Let me assure you all that I stayed in London this weekend, sipping lapsang souching and working on my thesis, which concerns Pop, Aesthetics, the Class system, early Primal Scream and the Stone Roses. Apparently this imposter bears some physical resemblance to me, but is an embarrassing and foul-mouthed soak. May I take this opportunity to apologise to anyone at Bowlie or elsewhere who has been taken in by this charlatan. I assure you that I could never countenance behaving in his boorish manner. I should also make it clear that any further association of me with this ludicrous buffoon, on this list or elsewhere, will be met with swift and decisive action, courtesy of my lawyers. Regards, T. Hopkins ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah_drayton at xxx.com Tue Apr 27 09:15:12 1999 From: sarah_drayton at xxx.com (Sarah Drayton) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:15:12 PDT Subject: Sinister: i don't want no scrub Message-ID: <19990427081512.73707.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello I enjoyed reading everyone's Bowlie posts though I have to admit that I am just a tad jealous.(being from Sydney etc) I was wondering if there are any other Sydney-siders/Australians on the list? I'm feeling a bit shy and awkward now so I'll run away. Sarah ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordi-tv at xxx.com Tue Apr 27 06:47:10 1999 From: jordi-tv at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano i Vilar) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:47:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: 33 hours later.... Message-ID: <19990427094710.HM.00000000000KO8U@mixmail.com> I don�t know how to begin. I arrived home yesterday night, as tired as you can imagine, but checking my wallet every 5 minutes. It was the place where I kept my most appreciated treasure. We had the return train tickets to Rye, so we decided not to go to Hasting with Bus. And when we arrived at the station....... I GOT STUART�S AUTOGRAPH !!!! The whole band was there, waiting for the train, so I decided to ask him some words for my zine readers. He drawed something like people having fun inside their chalets, along with these words: "Dear Jordi: hope you had a nice time at Camber Sands. Love, Stuart Murdoch, B&S". Then they left , with Stuart wearing a cool black hat. Along with this, my personal highlights were: - Isobel dancing to "sugar sugar honey honey" in the same bl ack dress as the Black Sessions (well,I think it is) - Jarvis dancing friday night at the Stage 2 - Me trying to get a chat with Mercury Rev�s Grasshopper. "I want an egg from B&S, so I might be a better person". - Camera Obscura. Great gig. - The free poster that I got last night from the merchandise site. - B&S, even though they were only playing for 45 minutes... If I forgot anything, I�ll post it later. My best wishes for everyone I met there, even though I hardly understood you. Bye ================================================== Jordiet Sinistre ================================================== Tu E-Mail Gratis en http://www.olemail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Tue Apr 27 10:57:05 1999 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:57:05 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Mad Dutch Dancing In-Reply-To: <199904250013.BAA16003@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Well I could quite happily talk for several hours about my weekend in Holland with a coachload of British students, but it's not Blowie-related so none of you would care. Suffice to say I'll still be recovering for a few days to come. But from listening to Steve Lamacq on Radio 1 last night, I did find quite a few things out about the festival; * That B&S's soundcheck went on for a world-beating 11 hours... * That Camera Obscura won the football by their cunning tactics of being sober... * That the Radio 1 football team were so hungover they didn't even make it onto the pitch... * That the beach party on Sunday night went on at least until the sun came up on Monday... * That Salako were pretty much the best band there... * That B&S were getting a lift to the station, then getting the train to Hethrow and heading for Dublin. Rock and roll... * That while people were queueing to get in on Friday, B&S started busking to everyone... They also played some songs from the sets by The Divine Comedy, Mercury Rev, John Spencer Blues Explosion and Sleater Kinney. They have got the B&S set recorded, but the band wanted to listen to it before they gave permission for it to go out on air, hopefully it'll be broadcast at a later date. And don't forget, picnic in London next Monday... Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Tue Apr 27 16:12:21 1999 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (weejay) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:12:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I hope you all had lots of fun. Message-ID: <199904271505.QAA01689@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> No, I really do. Really. I had a dream about Bowlie on friday night, more of a nightmare really. it was in the middle of Hereford for some reason and I was there with my dad and my sister (note subconcious spaceboy dream reference, arcmchair psyciatrists.) We got in by drawing return stamps on our hands with those UV security pens, but when we got in the hall was empty and terrorvision (!) were playing, so we left and went to the pub where I met dickon from orlando and I told him I liked his music. Which was a fib. Then I woke up. Apart from that I spent the weekend in my room writing, which is a MUCH more B&S-esque activity than a festival so you're all probably all really jealous of me. And, new recruits, the correct terminoligy is the non gender specific "sinisterines". Er.... that would be about it really. I like the new search thingy by the way, the examples it comes up with are bizarre in the extreme and have the added advantage of opening the possibility of expanding one's popularity by liberal usage of words like Pastel and baby jesus in your message. Or maybe not. xxx weejay PS - I've been told that some monitoring systems screen out my mailings as spam because I put XXX at the end. To which I can only say: free password, work from home, make $$$ now, hot sex action, smut, smut, smut. (tee hee) Blue Glow is now at http://diskant.future.easyspace.com/blueglow/ (This network is as sick as a dog. If you can't get through try maleslut at chickmail.com instead) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Tue Apr 27 16:11:52 1999 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MS1996) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:11:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Two and a half days in love with you... Message-ID: <3725D3B8.7960C8B7@cs.strath.ac.uk> Not a bad little weekend, there. Edited highlights coming up: The impromptu megaphone enhanced gig, with Sarah looking as embarassed as it is possible to be and singing along despite not knowing the words. Hearing the fantastic H!O!P!kins impersonator (had me fooled) spout his theories about Sgt Pepper being the root of all evil in the world etc, and finding him wandering about in an entirely convincing daze and almost in tears after Vic Godard. Witnessing some of the cheapest prostitution this side of Bankok (or is that Bangcock?) involving theivin' gypsy tarts Leaonard, Trousers, Moorkens and Dastoor. Slags. The sinister football team being cobbled together to replace Looper less than an hour before the tournament and going on to destroy everyone in their path up until the final, when they lost on pens to the jammy bastards from Camera Obscura. Sorry, the excellent sports from Camera Obscura who thouroughly deserved their victory. Disappointingly, impressive though Mad Dog Murdoch's legs of sex were, they couldn't propel the B&S team past the first round. Trousers looking at various points during Sunday night like Steve Lamacq, Lou Reed and Stevie Wonder, though his request for Stu M to give us Baker Street on his shiny new sax was cruelly ignored. Watching the sun rise upside down (the sun, not us) on Sunday morning, and moving swiftly away from the group of Glasgow neds (what the fuck did I go down there to get away from for 5 days?) who turned up on the sand dunes once this sight had been witnessed. The sinister picnic on Sunday when it quite incredibly remained sunny throughout, while I managed to eat a sandwich without getting sand in it. Sodastream's secret chalet gig, (cheers Jim!) which was very cool. Finally working out on Monday night what the badge someone gave me at the end of B&S (see subject box) meant. Generally laughing our tits off about hundreds of things including the exceptionally good Willy Wonka, the huge monkey, the hairy cave, bad puns, good puns and lots more besides. Oh, and some bloke from Ayr with his weirdo mates who stopped me from seeing Godspeed You Black Emperor. Bastards. Thanks to the wonderful Carsmile Steve for the badge (have a great wedding day mate), Jim and Damon for the Frosties, the sinister football supporters who remained to cheer on the team rather than go and see Sodastream/Looper (and Mr Murdoch who switched allegiances half way through the final to support us), Alix, Kevan, Mark, Vicky and Ailsa for putting up with my strange eating habits and bad jokes for over 4 days, (is this starting to sound like an Oscar speech? Frankly I don't give a shit, cos I had an amazing time) and everyone else I met who were without fail fantastic in the extreme (somebody stop me here before I get hold of the remote wanking machine). And for the very last and absolute final time, sorry Mark. What can I say? Looks like the kids are alright after all. Who'd have though, eh? Alasdair xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Victoria.Rees at xxx.com Tue Apr 27 16:35:12 1999 From: Victoria.Rees at xxx.com (Victoria Rees) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:35:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Another Bowlie? Message-ID: <00077CE3.N22024@ft.com> I just read in the NME that B&S are planning another Bowlie in September. Does anyone else know any more about this? Is this going to be the start of something big.....? I also read Stephen Dalton piece about the weekend. He refers to the whole thing as the "no soul weekender". Perhaps that has something to do with the fact that he stayed in a hotel, and is at least 90 years old.....No soul? How could he fail to get caught up in the infectious atmosphere of the whole thing? The vibe while standing waiting for B&S to come on was almost overwhelming. I take his point that most of the non-white people on site were bouncers, but there's not a lot you can do about that at an indie festival. You can't force people to come if they don't like the music and similiarly, as a general rule there are very few non-white indie bands. The whole point was that it was an event for like-minded folk with the same taste in music, there was certainly no racist agenda. Sticking a soul or RnB act in the line-up just to be PC and diverse would have been a joke...Bowlie was certainly the most soulful and friendly festival of my long festival career. On the other hand, the reviews of the actual music, provided by the slightly more in touch writers, couldn't have been nicer. and there was a picture of my friend Max's bag (the one with the little foxes)..... Vicky **************************************************************************************** *Please visit the web site of the Financial Times at http://www.ft.com * * * *This E-Mail is intended for the use of the addressee only and may contain confidential* *information. 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From willdemarest at xxx.com Tue Apr 27 16:48:08 1999 From: willdemarest at xxx.com (Will Demarest) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:48:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Looper/Sinister footie team Message-ID: <19990427154809.21014.rocketmail@web601.mail.yahoo.com> It seems a jolly good time was had by all at some minor music fest on the south coast. On this subject I have nothing to say, but I have been asked to post a little something about the Looper footie team from my mate Alex. The Looper team would have undoubtably won the footie final had they managed a single shot on goal. Big Tam was barely in a condition to stand up, let alone save a shot. The unfortunate though inevitable conclusion is that Looper just weren't good enough to win. Better luck next time lads. Many thanks to all for a cracking weekend, -W _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From funkyseb at xxx.com Tue Apr 27 17:14:01 1999 From: funkyseb at xxx.com (funkyseb) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 99 17:14:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I've got sand up my bumhole Message-ID: ...four showers and much Q tip probing and I'm still leaving little castles everytime I sit down. Bloody seaside holidays. I'm sure everyone must be getting sick of Woblie stories, but I went, so ner, and I'm going to talk about it. Firstly and lastly, immeasureable thanks must go to Pam, and her bus, and the lovely driver, who obligingly let us stop on the hard shoulder for a fag when we wanted one. I have no idea how we would have got back home without our double decker friend. Respect. And BIG thanks to a certain tabby haired popstar who entertained everyone all weekend, not least with his songs, but even more by being shit at football and running about like a girl ;-) So when's the next one, eh? All festivals should be this good- great telly, sunny days, a beach with dunes you can play war in, and people you know everywhere you look. Shame that Pontin's seemed to think that we were scum, and deserved none of the luxuries (like safe electrics and clean sheets) that we'd expected, but this can all be sorted out, I'm sure. Sod it, I'm not going to beat about the bush. STUART, IF YOU"RE READING THIS, CAN WE HAVE ANOTHER BOWLIE? IT WAS FUCKING AMAZING!! funkyseb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alix.campbell at xxx.net Tue Apr 27 18:47:16 1999 From: alix.campbell at xxx.net (Alix Campbell) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:47:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: well, that was fun, wasn't it? Message-ID: <002b01be90d6$149d3240$f041a8c2@big-comp> i feel like falling asleep until, oh, tomorow at least. hello i would like to recount highlights of bowlie, in a witty and gripping fashion, but i can't. so, bear with me whilst i mumble on a bit. i had great fun. no, i really did. met a whole load of you, and you're all lovely. met some security guards too who weren't lovely at all. i'm twee, there's no way they can threaten to, um, evict us from our chalet ("we've had complaints...") did anyone else have dodgy wallpaper in their chalet? i certainly did. every morning when i woke up it appeared to be moving, it just wouldn't stay still. most disorientating. apologies to carsmile steve for nearly decapitating him at the french cricket. sorry :) deep shame to all of my chalet for trying to sing B&S songs and failing to remember the words. "emma tried to run away/ she, um, la di da/ shit" anyway, there was loads more, but i can't be arsed to write it. ailsa r. has a long list, she'll tell you all about it. "wa-hey, it's the big gorilla" love alix p.s FunkySeb's dancing the universe contains everything that exists, the planets, their moons, the stars, star clusters, the galaxies and groups of galaxies and all the space and all the gas between them. as far as scientists know there is only one universe and there is nothing which is not part of it. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ar981611 at xxx.uk Tue Apr 27 19:38:32 1999 From: ar981611 at xxx.uk (Ailsa Ross) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:38:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: We're twee and we know we are Message-ID: <37260428.A12DBFE7@student.paisley.ac.uk> I had said to Trousers that at some point I was going to report on the football, well I can't really be bothered, but the boys done good, gave 110%, blah blah, Camera Obscura, blah blah, too many goalkeepers, blah blah, big war on the noticeboard, comedy own goal, penalty save, you can compose your own review from these salient points. Random quotes "with Jim, Trousers and Alasdair we had the backbone of a really good team". I think Rory said that but I can't remember. "Alasdair Cook is the Ginola of Sinister" (a random strager Alasdair met when he was pissed - though I think he may have made it up himself). Oh and big thanks to Fluffy Sarah and FunkySeb for saving me having to think up any chants for the football by doing it all themselves :) All together "Ooh ahh Sinist-ah!" "One team in Camber" etc etc (er, that's it actually, unless you count me and Sarah singing "Sinister" to the tune of "Tragedy" whilst doing bad Steps routines, which quite frankly, I wouldn't). And "We're twee and we know we are " which even raised a smile from LegsofSex himself who nearly supported our boys (but didn't). Did anyone else arrive by car via Rodney, sorry Romney, Marsh and therefore nearly destroy their car when coming round a corner and being confronted by an enormous plastic gorilla in a field? The look on Kevan's face was a sight indeed to behold, so much so that we went back to see it again on the way home, and Alix got scared by it all over again. Somebody had written "Do Not" on it, what we weren't to do we weren't sure. The beach had a sign on it warning you not to dig big holes or you'd get buried alive. I was also shocked to discover the little town of Lydd just along the road had an airport, we should charter a flight for the next one. It is going to happen isn't it?!?! We should have these things all the time, but to keep costs down we could dispense with bands as I kept forgetting to leave the pub/my chalet/the beach thereby missing almost every band I wanted to see. They should put the go-karts on next time too, although we did drive our cars in little circles round the car park to make up for it. The transglobal Sinister picnic on Sunday afternoon was great, despite the fact that FunkySeb whose idea it was in the first place didn't manage to find us (though how he didn't hear Mark C's yelps of pain as Alasdair tried to simultaneously amputate both his legs during the football is anyone's guess). I think over the course of the weekend I must have met at least 50 or 60 Sinisterians, and you were all lovely. Big thanks to the lovely carsmile Steve for giving me a badge which said "Lost the Plot" in case anyone was in any doubt as to the state that I was in (ahem), and I'm not *really* coming to gatecrash your wedding Steve, promise :) He was also one of only two people who spoke to me after seeing my upside down badge. The other was Trousers, whose joint efforts with Fluffy at drawing everybody in the pub were fantastic and should be going on the website soon (Fluffy? They are, aren't they?) The only thing I did of note in the pub was be scared of Amelia Fletcher. And fall asleep a lot. I'm still wearing my wristband too, along with a rather dazed grin. My photos are all quite crap, though I did just realise after looking at the photos that the drummer of the impromptu megaphone gig was my next door neighbour from when I lived in Glasgow, I was too busy obsessing on Mick Cooke/Stuey's arms of sex to notice at the time :) I completely missed the fact that people were getting their cameras taken off them, I can't believe no-one saw mine as I was perched on someone's shoulders taking photos for at least ten seconds until I fell off again. Unfortunately the band were all at the back of the stage at the time, so I suffered multiple bruises and ripped Rory's shirt for nothing. Oops! I've just noticed that Alix has said I was going to tell you lots of things off the list of things that we thought were ace about the weekend. In hindsight they were all shit. Well not shit, just of little consequence to anyone. Though waking up at three in the morning to find Nick Dastoor lurking on your balcony is not a thing I think we care to remember. Or being accosted by Swedish people looking for drugs (that's wanting to buy them, not randomly drug searching us). Though we did have security guards swarming round, perhaps they had had complaints that none of us could remember the words to tiggerjammies when we were pissed or that Mark's flauting was too twee or something. Anyway, it was all rather jolly and I think I may have lots of list crushes now, though that could be the drink blurring my perception and judgment. I don't think so though :) Counting the days till the next one...Can we all do this again quite soon please? And does anyone who lives in or around Glasgow know anything about this year's Longest Day festival, is it happening, who's playing etc etc? As I seem to have invited an unfeasible amount of people (well about six, but I only have a small house) up for the weekend so it would be nice if we actually had something to do. Still embarrassed about losing a game of French cricket to a King Charles spaniel, Ailsa xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.edu Tue Apr 27 20:07:05 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.edu (Brandt S. Fundak) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:07:05 -0400 Subject: Sinister: He sold out already?! Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990427150705.008e8100@popb.bgsu.edu> I was watching hockey highlights on ESPN at my friends last night and saw a commercial for the X Games that had backing music from LOOPER! The song was a butchered version of the treehouse and personally I was shocked. That is some record time for a sell out. Brandt "Mmmm...that's good Billy." --Troy McClure +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Tue Apr 27 20:04:29 1999 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:04:29 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Warning: More Bowlie bits and bobbins Message-ID: Hello folks, The hastily cobbled together Sinister team were magnificent, with Alistair Cook MS1996 almost scoring a hat-trick in the semi-final against ac acoustics. He followed this up by crippling Mark Casarotto during a kickabout on the beach on Sunday. Big Tam (also known as "the comedy goalkeeper") did indeed look pretty much incapable of saving anything, which is probably why he was replaced for the penalties by one of the other members of the team. Funny how Camera Obscura sportingly drafted in a selection of new and more capable players for the final though. I think there's a word for that. The Sinister team had the biggest following out of all the footie teams, wheras Camera Obscura could only muster up two or three supporters (one of these had strangely familiar red hair - shame on you Struan!) Trousers' exploits on the field seem to have been pretty well documented, and Stay Lucky Rory put in a sterling performance before failing to stay lucky. Meanwhile Steady Mike was getting decidedly unsteady in the one place where Sinister Rooled throughout, namely the bar. Well done to the very convincing Tim Hopkins impersonator for draining the entire site of beer. A feat that even the real Tim Hopkins would have struggled with. Thanks to Erin Lewis, and also Joss and Leagues, for convincing me to go and see the Flaming Lips. They were absolutely brilliant. Their gong and handpuppet antics were one of the highlights of the weekend. Other top moments were... The charm of the security guards: "You may be taking the piss out of us something chronic, but we have the power to evict you from the site." And the classic "Treat us nice love and you won't get any trouble." Wycombe 2 Man City 1: "Where's Tag?" "He's avoiding you." Trousers splitting a contact lens and having to spend Sunday watching bands in near darkness whilst wearing prescription sunglasses. Various people doodling pictures of Steve Lamacq, including Steve Lamacq, and Fluffy Sarah doodling pictures of everyone. Lazy Line Painter Jane, at the end of which I discovered tears running down my face. But most of all (as always) meeting loads of Sinister people, and can I just remind Carsmile Steve that he hasn't told us which church in Cheltenham we should all turn up at next Saturday. Best of luck mate. Thanks for tolerating another Bowlie post, Kevan The Fat Slug *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ian at xxx.com Tue Apr 27 20:54:43 1999 From: ian at xxx.com (ian connelly) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:54:43 -0700 Subject: Sinister: We're twee and we know we are In-Reply-To: <37260428.A12DBFE7@student.paisley.ac.uk> Message-ID: <199904271953.MAA02959@wired.com> At 07:38 PM 4/27/99 +0100, Ailsa Ross wrote: >I'm still wearing my wristband too, along with a rather dazed grin. My >photos are all quite crap.......I completely >missed the fact that people were getting their cameras taken off them, I >can't believe no-one saw mine as I was perched on someone's shoulders >taking photos for at least ten seconds until I fell off again. i haven't got mine back yet (just arrived back in san francisco yesterday evening after spending about 20 hours in transit, including our v e r y s l o w 4hour-drive to heathrow), but i was surprised to see people losing their cameras all around me while i was miraculously allowed to hold mine aloft two-rolls-worth without so much as a glance from the heavies. perhaps i'm invisible, or maybe the bouncers were just afraid of me. > Or being accosted by Swedish people looking for drugs >(that's wanting to buy them, not randomly drug searching us). hey! i thought i was the only person to have that happen! jeez, those swedes sure get around. >security guards swarming round, perhaps they had had complaints >that none of us could remember the words to tiggerjammies when we were >pissed or that Mark's flauting was too twee or something. ah, but you all still sounded great, even from the other corner of the quad where i was shyly lurking.... (still removing sand from my shoes....) ian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Tue Apr 27 21:09:29 1999 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 21:09:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I scored against Belle & Sebastian Message-ID: Hi all, I thought I'd add my random ramblings to the Bowlie scrapbook. Unfortunately yes there's more football. After hanging round looking keen and getting into the Camera Obscura side (yes there's a traitor in the midst) I faced Belle & Sebastian in the first round. And yes... I scored against Belle & Sebastian. Knocking them tumbling out of the celebrity footy and then shaking hands and exchanging "well played" and "unlucky"'s with the band with the world record for the longest soundcheck. Yes, it was that sort of a weekend. A bit good. Other highlights included: The amazing Flaming Lips, I completely fell in love with their music after about the second song, the beach party / footy kickabout that went on till Monday morning with random band members and other lovely people, chatting to Dean Wareham for ages without visibly annoying him and loads of other stuff. Lowlight: How annoying was going to work this morning? Enough lights now...Oh except for I also had a chat with a bloke who pressed buttons that made the lights go on and off on stage (I'm sure there's a technical term for that). He was talking about making sure band's finished before 11 and complying to license restrictions to make sure it could happen again next year. Here's hoping... Cheers, Martin A.K.A Ailsa's random stranger. I did mention Alisdair's Ginola-esque performance in the footy but did he also say that I said he was crap in the final? I think even Jimmy Hill and Alan Hansen would agree with that. Also the only team change made to the Camera Obscura was because he had to go and play some songs on stage or something and he was replaced by the comedy goalkeeper Tam. The footy row continues... P.S For Jim. Hi! Did I mention I scored against B & S. Sorry again... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From J.M.Taylor at xxx.uk Tue Apr 27 20:27:37 1999 From: J.M.Taylor at xxx.uk (Jim Taylor) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:27:37 +0100 Subject: Sinister: more tweekender soft focus memories, marine research, stuff Message-ID: aaaah. will try not to go on. too much. what a weekend as trousers pointed out in the now proven marvelous publication papercuts, (and made me reflect) this list is rather marvelous. i've been a bit of a naughty son, long subscribed......rarely read....but thankfully got round to logging on just often enough to find out about exciting events AND how to get to them without hassles (PAM YOU ARE A STAR:) unfortunately i cannot get to use the net very much.....nursing college at the hospital closes 6pm most days.....so will probaly go AWOL again fairly soon. so erm while i'm here ..hello to everyone i met for the first time, and met again and got to know a bit this time.....and those i didn't. The Bowlie for me showed the value of the list and the instant trust that seems to appear between listees.....and maybe b&s fans in general. i had a fantastic weekend, and could go on for pages, but want to thank all for being themselves, a lovley bunch, ermm lost for words... i know there are a few fans around so just to let anyone know i didn't excitedly tell o'er the weekend marine research are supporting fugazi/shellac @ stratford rex may 25th, but i get the feeling there aren't many tickets left - or at least nme ticketline said that last night.... and this is now confirmed..... saw Mackaye remove a stage invader (who had stage dived and knocked a lense out of my glasses) rather magnificently at the Fugazi Brixton show a few years ago - grabbed him by the neck, arms outstreched & frogmarched him off the stage neck veins a- pumpin'. MR at the garage tonight with 'the kinney' as they seem to become know in our house, but i can be excused from supporting 'em cos i am lucky boy on the way to see godspeed you black emperor as couldn't @ bowlie due to the obvious clash. heard very good reports though so am quite excited. damon is working upstairs (my old uni - city) in the library......poor thing had to get his head together for an interview today - cue amusing two hopless boys trying to iron a shirt on a very small table at 2am last night. mind you he didn't have to go in till later today. and slept sunday night. staying up playing beach footie at dawn with your fave pop stars (raymond & jerry fanclub, chrissie geddes does do things to your body clock. forgot to look out for the sun that day (probably too busy noticing b&s members across the campfire), but as alsdair said on sunday the sun did indeed appear in an upside down stylee. most strange. Work was bearable....in fact good....too much going on about bowlie to people who didn't quite understand on my part, but a couple of patients were impressed. and nobody had killed themsleves etc while i was away which is nice. am rambling now so byebye & see yall on monday at the piccerkniccers?? well those in nearby remote wanking distance. somebody must sit down and explain this business to me then. i am confused. jim (purple trousers, permanetly pissed silly grins, poor attempts at saving penalties in celebrity-am 5-a-sides. sorry 'bout that folks.) etc. err oh yeah b&s rocked literally like never before. so obviously massive thanks to them. was going to accost murdoch in pitch drakness as he sat nose poking out from under a hood at the beach campfire to thank 'em for the whole thing. but bottled it. naturally. errr right thats it. xcept soda stream *are* amazing. Jim Taylor WIDE BERTH 9a Dibgy Crescent London N4 2HS 0171 690 9970 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From susannah at xxx.net Wed Apr 28 00:14:34 1999 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 99 23:14:34 GMT Subject: Sinister: Bowlie Diary Message-ID: <990427231434.n0024457.garton@mail.clara.net> Friday 23 September 9st 2 (v. bloody good excluding the fact I ate packed lunch before the bus had set off), alcohol units 14 (dreadful but can only get worse), cigarettes 0 (don't smoke), calories 3100 ( poor) number of bands seen 2, improper thoughts about Stuart Murdoch 8 5 p.m. Oh God, why am I so unattractive? Cannot believe I convinced myself I was spending the entire weekend selling merchandise and watching bands when in fact I was on permanent pulling standby. Why hasn't anyone chatted me up yet? why? whats wrong with me? Must centre myself more. Will ask Trousers about appropriate self-help book, possible Eastern-religion-based. Message Board: FOUND- one pair of black NHS specs Gay sex in chalet 693 Tom must die Saturday 24 September 9st 4 (don't know how I can tell cos no scales even in plush AAA chalet), alcohol units 20(diabolical but can only get worse), cigarettes 2 passive, calories 5000 (but threw up so effectively 400 approx.) number of bands seen 2, smutty thoughts about Stuart Murdoch 15 ( exacerbated by seeing his legs in shorts). Food consumed today: 3 pieces toast 2 apples 1 chewy cereal bar 6 jaffa cakes 1 bagel half a tube of Pringles 3 hot doughnuts slap up meal from plush AAA catering tent 2 veggie burgers from whistlestop burger bar 5 chips from stranger with ketchup 2 packets cheese and onion crisps(slightly soggy as wallowing in beer stained table) 8am Ugh. Wish I was dead. Am never ever going to drink again for the rest of my life. 8.30 am Oooh. Could really fancy some chips. 11.30am Badly need water but seems better to keep eyes closed and head stationary on pillow so as not to disturb bits of machinery and seagulls in head. Message Board: Hayley the lifeguard she suck winky Fish don't care what time it is Tom must die 4pm-12am Quite enjoying selling merchandise. Everyone looking at Rod and Emu T-shirts going 'thats sick! I'll take three' Am trying to be friendly and approachable, cute bloke in newly purchased ladybug transistor T-shirt eyeing me up totally unsubtley. Suddenly dawns on me that is not because he fancies me but wants to get served. Decide to romp in kiddies inflatable playground with boys from Salako instead. Boys from Salako only interested in throwing me down plastic chute. Sunday 25 September 10st 8 (probably but can't be sure), alcohol units 27(v. v. poor and totally evil) cigarettes 0, illegal cigarettes 1, calories 1500(all derived from alcohol), bands seen 4, improper thoughts about Stuart Murdoch 20 (last day so have to make the most) number of Salako T-shirts sold 1 3pm wake up with horrible acidic hangover, will never drink again. Nasty dream about about being forced to listen to the Divine Comedy whilst everyone else having good time watching Flaming lips. 6pm Bowlie T-shirts totally sold out and people forced into Rod and Emu Tshirts, even the foreigners. Have to plead with someone to give me their two and a half days in love with you badge instead of being handed it by admirer like everybody else. 11pm Nearly cry during Century of fakers but mange to blink back sad girlie tears by quickly summoning up improper thought about S.M. Message Board: Belle and sebastian suck cock Salako eat monkey ass TOM MUST DIE love you all, Susannah. xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eliam at xxx.edu Wed Apr 28 02:36:32 1999 From: eliam at xxx.edu (Marie Elia) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 99 21:36:32 -0400 Subject: Sinister: this is just a crappy music review. Message-ID: <199904280136.VAA07623@pellns.alleg.edu> hello, sinisterines. (yes, nice and non-gender-specific, but sounds like listerine, and i Know y'all are anything but antiseptic.....) well, i've quite been enjoying all the bowlie stories. i'm proud of you all -- drinking and playing like troopers. twee, my arse: you all know how to party. hey, what about, "we cambered, we saw, we nambled and pambled?" or, "we cambered, we saw, we wanked?" oh, this is too dirty.... "tonight there will be no more good clean fun" -catpower here is some more of the crappy music reviews i am so fond of posting. i was sitting in my room, listening to the smiths like the good little b&s fan that i am, and here is what i found in SPIN, that glossy publication that i keep publicly dissing yet diligently reading (hey, at least until the subscription runs out). here you go: Belle & Sebastian, This is Just a Modern Rock Song EP (Jeepster import) Seven minutes of pure ironic bliss, the title track of this four-song EP tweaks the Third-Eye-Blind-leading-the-blind and shows us all how it should be done -- terse guitar strums ease into a melancholy swoon of oboes, organ, and tambourines; then singer/guitarist Stuart Murdoch doesn't get the girl. ______________________________________________________________________________ hmmm. doesn't get the girl? i wasn't aware that that was the focus of the song.... anyway, keep tweeking. xoxo, marie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rehakk at xxx.edu Wed Apr 28 06:32:25 1999 From: rehakk at xxx.edu (Kimberly Rehak) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 01:32:25 -0400 Subject: Sinister: choose life! Message-ID: <012601be9138$7fb7ca60$9e84c38d@rehakk.alleg.edu> Hey lot! I'm using this shift key today, it's pretty frightening. I have to stop. anyway, it's been grand reading all of the bowlie excitement, especially the football endeavors. let me just say that i had to hear about football all throughout work at the library today. i think this man (the only one at the reference desk) has to prove his manhood some way, so he talks about football/soccer incessantly. and everytime he mentioned the arsenal team, i just kept thinking of all the references to them in "rotten" the last book i read and finished. (i lost "king lear" so i never got to finish). yes, i'm a big loser dork, reading books about johnny rotten in a sorry attempt at being cool. ha but it seemed like you all had a smashing time. and that is wonderful. i'm not jealous in the least bit, honest. onto a sadder note: one of my friends from high school died on friday, and it really has had me thinking. you really have to live your life for the moment, no matter how trite it seems. i think about him, and how he wanted to take me to his hidden clothing store he found and thought i would like and how we never went, about all the times i wanted to do something but didn't because of some reason or another...so i'm advising you all, go out and live! i'll stop my message here so you can go and do just that. KIMberly xx "you can't make love out of plastic and clay" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kissingdom at xxx.net Wed Apr 28 10:07:33 1999 From: kissingdom at xxx.net (Tony) Date: 28 Apr 99 10:07:33 BST Subject: Sinister: You can always rely on the kindness of strangers Message-ID: <19990428090733.2325.qmail@nw177.netaddress.usa.net> Or being accosted by Swedish people looking for drugs. Though we did have security guards swarming round, perhaps they had had complaints that none of us could remember the words to tiggerjammies when we were pissed or that Mark's flauting was too twee or something. Peering through my patchy recollections of Bowlie I seem to recall events similar to these, as we sat round a tin-foil campfire singing sinistertunes and sharing birthday cake whilst Mark The Evangelist tried to convince us that Neil Hannon needed serious repremanding, (he'd tackled Jarvis early in the weekend) and five-a-side football was played around us. The couple opposite me on the train back couldn't stop smiling and soon the whole carriage was grinning like gibbons. Ace. Tony ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From giita at xxx.com Wed Apr 28 10:34:09 1999 From: giita at xxx.com (Aileen Hammond) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 02:34:09 PDT Subject: Sinister: 3 degrees and had to wake up from a dream... Message-ID: <19990428093409.72732.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello my dear Sinisters, I am back in Iceland day-dreaming about Bowlie.. *sigh* I had a wonderful time :) Between seeing all the bands and seeing other people, chalet parties and the rest, it was unreal.. I enjoyed the beach picnic..Meeting you Sinisters for the first time.. Standing for 5 hours waiting for B&S, was well worth it..It was beautiful..The only thing that annoyed me were those horrible security guards..I secretly took pictures in fear.. I almost missed my plane on Monday, had to run around London with heavy bags.. Thanks to Trousers for letting me and my friend Inga stay over last Thursday..we would have been two jetlagged-homeless-Bowlie-goers if it wasn�t for you. >I just read in the NME that B&S are planning another Bowlie in >September. Does anyone else know any more about this? Is this going >to be the start of something big.....? Yes, actually I heard Godspeed You Black Emperor! say that there will be a Bowlie 2-3 times a year, and the next one will be in September! So start saving your money.. I went to a FugAzi concert last night, very good..they played in the Icelands national radio garage, which was a bit wierd..I wasn�t planning on going, I was feeling a bit sick(Bowlie sickness) and my pockets were empty..but I�m glad I did go anyway. Sweet dreams.. Giita @->-- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mariannebratlie at xxx.com Wed Apr 28 10:51:40 1999 From: mariannebratlie at xxx.com (Marianne Bratlie) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 02:51:40 PDT Subject: Sinister: bowlie!!!! Message-ID: <19990428095141.42707.qmail@hotmail.com> hi! Just had to say that Bowlie was even better than I`ve ever imagined, the only things I`m sorry for is missing the beach party sunday night, (and for not meeting any sinisters at all the whole week end, how is it possible???, met some "jeepsters" though) -and that the guard took the film out of my camera at the b&S gig.. (but at least I`ve got great Looper picktures...) Had to laugh reading about all you people who`ve met the drug-seeking sweeds, as we also were so lucky to meet them, seems like they`ve been quite desperate. Do anyone agree that one of the highlights in the b&s gig was when Monica sang "lazy line painter Jane"??? It was great!!! The whole concert was the best I`ve ever seen, wish I had the chance to see them more often, but living in Norway makes it difficult though. I felt like a fourteen aged teenager at an Elvis concert, when I was unable to sing along, afraid I`d start crying... Ok, maybe I should make this short, just wanted to say that it was fantastic, Cheers! Ps, thanks to the "clean up stage"guy who gave me a belle and sebastian drum stick, and plecter, thankyouthankyouthankyou!! and.... (it`s very embaresing not to know his name..)to the bandmember (who`s on the cover of ..arab strap) for beeing so friendly to talk with us for a couple of minutes. Ok then, ...just one more thing, I had my first belle and sebastian dream at bowlinger..hooray,!!! Cheers (again.) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Tjonrr at xxx.com Wed Apr 28 12:10:00 1999 From: Tjonrr at xxx.com (Tjonrr at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 07:10:00 EDT Subject: Sinister: see you all in september then... Message-ID: <38912b81.24584688@aol.com> well i spent the whole weekend avoiding anyone who might have been on this list. i cant appear in public, it would spoil the myth. sort of like kiss appearing without their make up. while we were still queing to get in i passed up the perfect oppurtunity to insult a well respected elder statesman of the glasgow indierock fraternity. actually thats a lie, it was duglas out the bmx bandits. he complemented me on my shirt and i was going to make some withering remark about his blue bluecoat coat but i was in a christian mood so i didnt. couse, that was before his cameraman insisted on spending five minutes doing all manner of close ups and long shots and so forth of my badges while i had to stand there like a muppet. then we get inside and theyre selling stacks of selfsame shirts and selfsame badges. the irony was entirely lost on me and had to be explained by a student. just to put a downer on the whole thing can i just say how shit ladybug transistor were. i sat through the whole set, not wanting to relenquish my front row spot (in just the right position to be looked down on by stevie jackson in an aloof way). let me illustrate my thoughts with a wee allegory: when i was in primary school, i once thought it would be a good idea to create a wonderful new colour by mixing together all the paints in the class (and therefore, from my seven year olds perspective, all the colours in the world). imagine my dismay when it came out peagreen, officially the most boring colour in the world. i think i (cue wonderyearsesque freezeframe and voiceover) learnt a valuable lesson that day... anyway, to jolt you all back into the present, ladybug transistor obviously never learnt that lesson at an early age, presumably being too selfconciously arty to bother. you see (bear with me, this is going somewhere) just because you take a load of great elements from a load of great bands, doesnt necesarrily make you a great band yourself. it just makes you peagreen. there you go, ive just took three paragraphs to explain what could have been summed up in two words. the second one is "wank". in response to what someone has just wrote, id like to apologise for referring to the peolpe sat playing B+S tunes as hippies while we were playing football. as in "just stomp them, theyre only hippies" when the two lesuire pursuits accidentally intersected. it wasnt the music i objected to, just the basic concept of sitting in a circle with an acoustic guitar and a tambourine. at least there was no campfire in the middle. then the fascist bullyboy security told us to stop, they had had complaints from nearby residents about the noise from the football, but never mentioned the music, so thats karma for you. we moved on to the most boring party in the world- swedish people sat around being sophisticated. the futility of human existence encapsulated in one room. i was really paranoid at about this point because all day random people kept talking to me about billy bragg. it wasnt till the next morning someone pointed out it may have had something to do with the bragg/guthrie shirt i had been wearing. i got one of those two and a half days etc badges as well, and ive only just discovered where its from in the nme this morning. i was going to mention the stuff about the rabbit and the stuff about the seagulls, but it seems a bit cruel in retrospect, so ill just finish here and keep my reputation as a friend of all gods little creatures. from tjohn shit, i forgot to mention the belle and sebastian set. well, that must be what church is like for religious people. in fact at some point towards the end of that set my left shin started bleeding for no reason. someone said it was stigmata and that meant i was jesus, but i just contented myself with a few random blessings and a goods night sleep. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Wed Apr 28 12:28:51 1999 From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (Michael Jones) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 04:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Did I say custard ? I meant porridge. Message-ID: <19990428112851.20047.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com> Hey-ho HepCats, The post-Beiwol comedown is biting hard here, cushioned only by the warm near-coital glow of Camber memories (Mark C's clinical finishing, "Wrong Girl", the double-decker rolling into bleak Kent/Sussex border country - "y'know, maybe Matt Shinkansen was right...", Tha Sinista Drinking Krew's Corner Of Filth at the Queen Vic, so much else...) and the cottonwool-headed detachment afforded by a receding bout of influenza. Wobeli may have left me a partially-deaf mucus factory with Beamish Red in his veins, but Potters Bar this morning looked like Geneva... (unless Geneva actually looks like Stalybridge - I've really no idea). I do hope Stevie T's huge swelling has eased - Pam has a polaroid for posterity. I shan't mention the body part concerned, it would spoil the seaside sauciness of the image. I'll just leave it dangling. Dangling. Swelling. Huge. I fear I've been officially dumbed-down. Boil-washing hankerchiefs from now until September... Mike x. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed Apr 28 12:38:15 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:38:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Quite too many sheep for my liking Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E225F1B73@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Best Bowlie bites: Ben's solidity at the back of the park, Trousers' trousers and Jim's fortitude between the sticks, despite getting belted in the face by his own team-mate - Damon, say you're sorry to the nice gentleman! And to Looper for needing to soundcheck and allowing us to take their place (I heard one of AC Acoustics, after we'd hammered them in the 2nd round, muttering that Looper had brought in ringers, which made me wet myself at the prospect) - shame we actually had to miss their set as a result :( Stuart M gentling ribbing me (missus!) for failing to get knocked out of the footie competition (and my legs still hurt, not least where Alasdair Cook, the world's best footballer (TM) callously took me from behind (missus!), though my buttocks aren't too bad). The impromptu set of Rod Stewart and Simon and Garfunkel standards belted through a megaphone by Struan, Stevie and a suspiciously giggly Sarah at the crowd as dusk fell on the Friday night. The ability of salt to soak red wine from carpets (seven spillages over the weekend - is this a record?). Meeting for the first time Fluffy, Ben, Laurel, Sarah W, CarsmileStevethenicestmanintheworld, Arantxachacha, Robin, Olga, Jordi, DM,C,UK, Joss, Damon, Giita, Giita's chum, bugger this is getting tricky, erm, oh yes, Ally&Ailsathenicestflatmatesintheworld, and several others who I am ashamed not to be mentioning, but you're all lovely. Meeting all the people I've already met, but who are equally lovely and too numerous to list. A photograph proving that Alix Campbell is the most beautiful woman in the world - it'll be on Honey's photo page before you can say Cate Blanchett. Lazy Line Painter Jane, with Monica proving that the size of your gob can be inversely proportional to the slightness of your stature (I can think of a few others this is relevant to :)). Tim's doppelganger did getting his come-uppance - I made him run up and down an unfeasibly large amount during his cameo as supersub for the Sinister footie team, and he almost cracked his skull into the bargain - let that be a lesson to him. Honey letting me rant on for ages about various thing, and harangue him when he made the mistake of giving me his mobile number, and meeting the Duke of Harringay who does, in a very real sense, rule the school. Worst bits: Pontins. They fucking suck. Pontins security - getting threatened with being chucked off site for having a party at 11pm when the entire place was heaving at 3am, though to be fair we did deserve having our heads knocked together for the abuse we were shouting at them from the safety of our balcony (ahem). Pontins check-in arrangements. What a joke. Pontins' fucking security wanker who felt the need to expose everybody's film during B&S's set. Probably the same one who sexually harassed several of the female guests, if reports are true... Not being able to stay the course on Saturday night thanks to far more exertion in the 5-a-side than I could cope with. Having far too much to do to actually see all that many bands - and Luna being onstage far too close to B&S. Snot fair... Hangovers. I am quite honestly still recovering. And no doubt loads more stuff that needs to be said, but will have to make occasional appearances in future letters as my memory's too fuzzy to mention anything else. I am sorry that I missed Nick Dastoor selling his body, especially at such a bargain price - I strongly advice any lovelorn sinisterines to get their kicks at foxy Nick's, as he doesn't really look like Neil Morrissey any more... So back to not having anything to look forward to... :( Love Mark xxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kissingdom at xxx.net Wed Apr 28 13:15:28 1999 From: kissingdom at xxx.net (Tony) Date: 28 Apr 99 13:15:28 BST Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19990428121528.20045.qmail@nw128.netaddress.usa.net> >i was going to mention the stuff about the rabbit I thought that was just hallucinations as a result of the 3 day bender. >and the stuff about the seagulls, they had it coming though...it was 5 am for christsakes >It wasnt the music i objected to, just the basic concept of sitting in a >circle with an acoustic guitar and a tambourine. I thought it was some strange Scottish birthday ritual, nice to be invited though... >So back to not having anything to look forward to... Apart from the Handsome Family and Calexico tonight Tony ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Apr 28 13:54:53 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:54:53 +0200 Subject: Sinister: You're Going Home in a FLUFFY Ambulance! Message-ID: <01be9176$4f8901e0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Sod setlists, it's teamsheets I'm interested in! Did we really come second? Well done, chaps! I would like to take full credit for this monumental achievement, but that might be considered unfair. Speaking of which, I have no idea who Camera Obscura are, but they are a bunch of cheating fuckwits who don't know who they're messing with and they will definitely get theirs next year. I bet their records are shit as well, if anyone's been daft enough to let them record any. I'm not surprised Belle and Sebastian went out first round either, because they are soft as grease and as daft as brushes also to boot, as they say on the CHEEPSTER records website. Speaking of which, I'm sure you all remember CHEEPSTER's claim that the Bowlie Weekender was for "the intelligentsia of the alternative scene". Let's have a quick sift through the evidence to see whether this proved to be true, shall we? Here are some extracts from Bowlie posts: ----------------------------------------------- Me and Chris have a remote wanking machine and we're using it to toss off random pop stars. Trousers' pants ffell down and we all saw his winky. Chris Leonard to any passer by 'I'm wanking you off on my wank machine' I've got sand up my bumhole ------------------------------------------------------- Hmmm. A special thank you to KEITH WATSON for WANKING ME OFF at the weekend. Just the once would have been enough, Keith. And was it entirely necessary to do it to the tune of "Iron Man" by Black Sabbath? Anyway, I've been so impressed by your tales of fun and frolics that I've just booked up for the World Darts Championships at Camber Sands. See you all there! Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From M223CMellan at xxx.uk Wed Apr 28 14:41:36 1999 From: M223CMellan at xxx.uk (M223CMellan) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:41:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: boools Message-ID: <199904281340.NAA18542@mx1.rmplc.co.uk> did our keith email the eving session last night , saying that bowlie was ace, and requesting the new sleaterkinney song? or was it another keith? bowlie sonded ace - please appeakl fora scotish un baby chris Cristalballs +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From benjamin at xxx.com Wed Apr 28 14:41:43 1999 From: benjamin at xxx.com (Benjamin M. Poremski) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:41:43 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V3 #131 References: <199904281152.FAA18175@turtle.esosoft.net> Message-ID: <000c01be917c$db2bb700$8fd4f0cf@name> We're back in New York after the Bowlie sextravaganza. I seem to have come down with the plague. Who was the zero-case of this social disease? And just what WERE we doing to have all contracted the same illness? It was a smashing time, or shit, I can't remember. Laurel tells me I looked to be having fun, but all I can remember is the leering face of Tim Hopkins wavering in front of me over yet another pint of Beamish 'stout'. Actually it WAS smashing and I met a ton of the best people on earth. You know who you are. My memory of the football has been jogged by this bit of smack posted to Sinister: "The Looper team would have undoubtably won the footie final had they managed a single shot on goal. Big Tam was barely in a condition to stand up, let alone save a shot. The unfortunate though inevitable conclusion is that Looper just weren't good enough to win. Better luck next time lads." Oooo you who don't understand the intricacy of football management. Our strategy was to wait until the danger man in the Scotland top bled himself into unconsciousness. He was losing gallons-- the pitch looked like the set of an Italian slasher flick. Anyhow, we figured that would happen in the first five minutes of extra time, but the frigging ref double-crossed us by deciding on penalties. Good enough to win? You betcha. Last bit. Anyone who saw that "Curse of the Flying Hellfish" episode of the Simpsons will recognize the competition I'm proposing. Whoever is the last living soul to remove the awful orange wrist tape from the Bowlie wins a biscuit-encrusted cardie from Honey's wardrobe. (N.B.: I don't actually have the cardigan in question, but if Honey can't provide one, I will create a facsimile.) As I removed my wrist band at Trouser's pad on Monday, I've already lost, but I am sure that there are people out there aiming for the Grand Saddo Cup: let's hear about it in, let's say, a month. Benjamin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk Wed Apr 28 15:00:11 1999 From: Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk (Sarah Wheeler) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:00:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bowlietastic Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990428150011.0069324c@pop-server.cent.gla.ac.uk> Well I am only just starting to feel like I might be getting over the bout of food poisoning that smacked me in the mouth (and down the nostrils too, to boot) on Monday morning, just prior to a tortuous 9.5 hour bus journey home in the company of the arsiest moaniest oldiest Glasgwegians EVER. They had fair comment though. I mean, why should a bus from London to Glasgow take longer than a bus from Glasgow to Blackpool. It really does defy logic!!!!!!! Arses! Oh my oh my....'twas wonderful. Highlight for me was (well with the exception of the Belles, obviously), Stevie trousers recognising me from the people page and introducing me to loads of sinister folk. Hi to Stevie trousers, Ailsa, Alix, Mark C, Kevan, Matthew, Funkyseb, Tim, and oh just everyone else too. Other highlights: Our chalet mate, Tom, calling Steve Lamacq a wanker for telling him that he wouldn't play SFA 'cos he was only playing pop not indie (this while Kennedy was being played!) Me shaking Struan's hand, and him saying that he hoped he didn't go red when they played. Aaah, the rest is a blur. Rowlie on the next Bowlie! Love Sarah W xx ======================= Sarah Wheeler Room 106 West Medical Building University of Glasgow GLASGOW G12 8QQ 0141-339 8855 ext.2860 ======================= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dm981579 at xxx.uk Wed Apr 28 16:55:30 1999 From: dm981579 at xxx.uk (Donna McInally) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:55:30 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Momus is Marvelous References: <13fc8bc9.2450d7cf@aol.com> Message-ID: <37272F71.852FD6A0@student.paisley.ac.uk> > WARNING Message from IBM > > If you receive an e-mail titled.JOIN THE CREW or PENPALS DO NOT open it! > It will erase EVERYTHING on your hard drive! > Send this letter out to as many people as you can. This is a new virus > and not many people know about it! This information > was received this morning by IBM, Please share it with anyone that might > access the Internet!! > > PENPAL appears to be a friendly letter asking you if you are interested in > a penpal, but by the time you read this letter it is > TOO late. > > The Trojan horse virus will have already infected the boot sector of your > hard drive, destroying all the data present. It is a self- > replicating virus, and once the message is read it will AUTOMATICALLY > forward itself to anyone who's e-mail address > is present in your box! This virus will destroy your hard drive and holds > the potential to DESTROY the hard drive of anyone whose mail is in your > box and whose mail is in their box and so on and on! > So delete any message titled PENPAL or JOIN THE CREW. This virus can do > major DAMAGE to worldwide networks! > > PLEASE PASS THIS ALONG TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND PEOPLE IN YOUR MAILBOXES. > AOL HAS SAID THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS VIRUS AND THERE IS NO REMEDY FOR > THIS. FORWARD IT TO ALL YOUR ON-LINE FRIENDS A.S.A.P.! P +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rod at xxx.com Wed Apr 28 17:05:27 1999 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:05:27 -0400 Subject: IGNORE THAT WARNING! (was: Re: Sinister: Momus is Marvelous) References: <13fc8bc9.2450d7cf@aol.com> <37272F71.852FD6A0@student.paisley.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000e01be9190$f3e8c8f0$5c05c90a@sapient.com> > > WARNING Message from IBM >From http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/hoax.html: Join the Crew is not a virus. It is a hoax. The "virus" does not exist. There is currently no virus that has the characteristics ascribed to "Join the Crew." It is a sham, meant only to panic new or inexperienced computer users. Please ignore any messages regarding this supposed "virus" and do not pass on any messages regarding it. Passing on messages about this hoax serves only to further propagate it. rod. -- r o d b e g b i e work: rbegbi at sapient.com play: rod at begbie.com vox: +1 (617) 761-1753 web: http://www.begbie.com/ "I didn't eat yesterday, and I'm not going to eat today, and I'm not going to eat tomorrow, cause I'm gonna be a SUPERMODEL!" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sillas_luap at xxx.com Wed Apr 28 17:37:19 1999 From: sillas_luap at xxx.com (paul sallis) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:37:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Shyness is nice... Message-ID: <19990428163719.7891.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Hello happy campers & absent friends, I know its all been said already but Bowlie was orgasmically good (just ask the lucky victims of the remote wanking machine). Being a slave to the all powerful Gods of shyness and awkwardness I failed dismally to approach any of my fellow inverted badge clan (of which I spotted at least five) and unluckily I didn't see the Sunday picnic notice until about 4 hours after it had started. But even without the moral guidance of you lovely mystical internet people I still managed to have a weekend full of debauchered frolics and gay abandon. highlights: - dancing to The Smiths in the pouring rain on Friday night after being gently lulled, like frightened lambs, out of the relative safety of the chalet by our neighbours across the way. - Seeing Jarvis Cocker mope around the place in a strop because no-one was paying any attention to him. - Turning on the telly Saturday morning to find the social and pyschological commentary of genius that is the wonderful Charlie and the chocolate factory. - Sitting on the beach Monday morning drinking red-wine and talking absolute shite for hours. - Belle and Sebastians set, which was so incredible you could have painted it green sent it out to beatup badguys. - lying in the sun sipping Champagne and eating Ambrosia creamed rice with jam. And then leaping to the stereo to try and get it dead in time with our opposite neighbours stereo (both playing Dog on wheels) thus giving a pseudo-surround sound effect to our little corner of the site, and knowing that when I shouted across that "Its 3-6-9 next" that they would instantly understand me and put it straight on. - Seeing the big friendly camp-bloke from the Flaming lips attack a giant gong with more style and grace than I thought humanly possible. - Looper (short'n'sweet, with good typewriter sounds from Karn), Mogwai (interesting for 10 mins), Sleater-Kinney (I swear the drummer kept winking at me), Cornelius (for the outstanding 1-2-3-4-5-6 track and the footy one too), The Divine Comedy (for playing really tideous songs at the start thus provoking me to go off and see the Lips instead), - Dancing for hours like an absolute fool to cheesey-funk and loving every minute of it. Apologies & Empathy: - To anyone who witnessed my scary David Bryne'esque dancing. - To the poor girl whos foot I landed on while moshing to Smells like teen spirit. - To the Pontins cleaners who had to wakes myself & friends up at 12:30 Monday afternoon before they could get in to clean up our mess. - To Karen, the History of Art student from Glasgow, who lost a lovely pair of white shoes at the beach gathering Monday morning (after burrying them by accident). - To my lovely, stripey-blue woolly hat that I lost on Monday and mourn for deeply ::sigh::. - To Kim for your loss. Bye bye people, hopefully I can hide from you all again in September, Paul. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stray4f at xxx.net Wed Apr 28 17:37:35 1999 From: stray4f at xxx.net (Lance Bangs) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:37:35 -0400 Subject: Sinister: bowlie set list Message-ID: <199904281639.MAA21484@vm4-ext.prodigy.net> Bowlie was truly wonderfull, with most of the bands performing the best shows I have seen from them, rising to the occasion. Belle and Sebastian played a relatively long set, and I don't think I've seen anyone on Sinister post the set list yet. Based on my recollection it went something like Slow Graffitti Seeing Other People dog on wheels century of fakers the wrong girl i know where the summer goes (whos that girl?) a stuart david song I didn't recognize simple things if yr feeling sinister Paper Boats the boy with the Arab Strap Photo Jenny A new upbeat Isabelle song, very Motown sounding Lazy line Painter Jane The Kids Are Allright Other highlights? Mogwai covering Joy Division, the stunning set by the Flaming Lips, the hush that fell over the small crowd downstairs as Dean Wareham played Galaxie 500's "blue thunder" and proceeded to cover Beat Happenings "Indian Summer" and Johnathan Richman's "Don't Let our youth go to waste" as people wept while smiling... just seeing all of the kids milling about, talking, getting into trouble.... The crowd was great, and very receptive to everything. I was worried that people wouldn't neccesarily get into Sleater-Kinney since they are much more of a rock band than most of the acts, but people were freaking out and dancing and screaming between their songs, which inspired them to play a particularly good show. Jarvis's DJing was peculiar, with awkwardly segued songs like "Funky Cold Medina" and "Can't Touch This." I kid you not. It was fun though, and seeing the floor filled with fans, most of Stereolab, Elliott Smith, and Sleater-Kinney all madly dancing as he spun "White Lines" was a blast. Salako's late night chalet acoustic shows were fun, with various people (cornelius, stuart david) taking turns playing backed by them.... David and Katrina worked tirelessly at the merchandise table, and yet always seemed to be happy to meet people and enjoy all of the mayhem around them. Cheers. The whole thing was such a blast, and Neil and Stuart and everyone that put it together should be very pleased with what an amazing event they managed to pull off..... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dbgeraghty at xxx.uk Wed Apr 28 18:02:21 1999 From: dbgeraghty at xxx.uk (David Geraghty) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:02:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: oooo, get me away from here, i'm still jealous... Message-ID: <00cb01be9198$f8aa00e0$e829d4d4@oemcomputer> I took off my blindfold and removed my ear plugs this morning, only for the first thing I see to be the NME, in all its resplendent Bowlie glory. I thought I was on the road to recovery, but this has just set me back by a good few weeks. All this talk of dancing in the rain, paddling in the sea, and of course, the perhaps now legendary mobile wanking device (can I get the blueprints...?) got me thinking, but then that wasn't really the reason I wrote this... I just wanted to say that while you all had 'fun' in a holiday camp, I wrote a marvellously interesting and witty essay on Madonna and her position in the film and music industry. And yes, I managed to get B&S into it, with my industrial strength essay shoehorn. The only problem was that my lecturer returned it to me today, marked and with a note about making up bands to prove points where only the facts will do. I went to speak to her and she asked me if I thought she was stupid, as she knew B&S was an old tv programme, and did I think I was funny? I found it all a little too surreal to argue, so didn't bother. I am getting a little disturbed though. The Mental Swathes have almost got me thrown out of Virgin and B&S are getting me in trouble with lecturers. Read next week for Looper got me arrested after framing me for fraud. or something. hope all the Bowlie in September/August rumours are true as my better half is still a tad, er, miffed about the miscommunication that resulted in our non attendance at this one. And I'm going to see Pavement and shes not.....whoops.... byebye david x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stray4f at xxx.net Wed Apr 28 18:44:43 1999 From: stray4f at xxx.net (Lance Bangs) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:44:43 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Message-ID: <199904281745.NAA117448@pimout2-int.prodigy.net> oh, I left off "I don't love anyone" which was played after "sinister' and before "paper boats"... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From untitled at xxx.com Wed Apr 28 20:34:32 1999 From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:34:32 -0400 Subject: Sinister: wanking from a distance, oh you crazy catz Message-ID: <199904281534_MC2-73C2-329@compuserve.com> I began to wish I had gone to Camber Sands, I mean it sure beats sitting here in my room watching the rain fall outside. But then some e-mails started coming back and with stuff like remote wanking machines (RWM) and sandy bottom holes, I kinda thankful I stayed here. I also checked out the 'I saw you' on B&S's site - oh dear. Though some of the messages were quite sweet. Some people desperately trying to seek the girl at the Vic with the orange T-shirt who's friends possibly called her Amy, though it sounded like Sarah, or possibly David. Rearrange this sentence 'Stack, Hay, Needle, A, In'. Though if there is one in September you might find that him/her. I wish I had a bin in my bedroom, I threw the other away cuz it was too dirty. Jaffat Corncrake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From karastar at xxx.com Wed Apr 28 20:55:54 1999 From: karastar at xxx.com (Kara Baer) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:55:54 -0700 Subject: Sinister: more Bowlie bits and things.. Message-ID: Oh..I've just got myself together from this weekend. I have never (ever) had so much fun. If Stu & co. decide to do it again in September..well then fuck university, I'm flying over. Watch out world! (Just like Smashing Time in the cinema on Saturday. Did anyone else catch that?) I'm sorry I missed all the fun Sinister activites. During the football, I was watching "Withnail and I" and drinking red wine with my chaletmates. I did meet Carmisle Steve; I stopped him because I saw his upside down badge. I also met a few Sinisterees up near the front of the stage near Mick and Stevie during Belle & Seb. Being all sweaty and up close with total strangers is a real bonding experience. As Honey said: >6. The stuff about Jarvis Cocker below is really true >he's walking around trying to look non-chalant and >looking very chalant. Everyone's pretending to not >know who he is. I saw Jarvo on Saturday night during V-Twin. There was this little circle of space around where people didn't want to get too close in case they looked like they were TRYING to get too close. So, being the brass American I am, I went up and introduced myself and got him to stand for a picture with me. Woo! And Ian: > > Or being accosted by Swedish people looking for > > drugs (that's wanting to buy them, not randomly > > drug searching us). > hey! i thought i was the only person to have that > happen! jeez, those swedes sure get around. I too had an encounter with a random Swede. This one stayed on the floor in our chalet having follwed my friend Anne home. He had used his sympathetic stories and his not-quite-fluent English to win her over. He kept name dropping Teenage Fanclub members the whole time he was with us. Anyway, for me the very best bits were the Bel and Seb set and all the lovely dancing I did (and seeing Stuart M bip bopping all over the dance floor). Does anyone have the set list? I don't think I remeber them all in order. Did anyone tape the show? The Steve Lamaq thing? I'd like a copy of both. Oh, and for those of you who got your pictures taken away, I got free doubles when I got mine developed. I'm willing to exchange them. (They're not high quality ,mind you, but I was very near the front.) Love Kara *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Wed Apr 28 22:54:37 1999 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Fluffy Sarah) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:54:37 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Mighty Sinister will rule again! Message-ID: I'm still tired so...heeey.....you have a choice to read or not. Don't moan if you don't like it. Fuckers! I'll tell you who's a fucker and thats the girl that Michele beat up when B&S were on. Fuckette? Oh well. Bowlie. Did we start this? With the Sinister Soul Weekender? I think we did. Its us. Aren't we great. I got a picture of Stuart smiling JUST FOR MEEEE! Waaaaah hands in the air! Rock Bitch Murdoch! Its wierd I think, how he's changed onstage. Previously when I've seen B&S, its all been hunched over the guitar, but at Bowlie - it was Rock City! Stuart has been spending too much time being wanked off by Keith I think. Jealous? Shhhh... It was so much fun meeting you all, much more fun than the Delgados! I have decided to forgive Mark Casarotto for whatever I was annoyed with him for, just because he says roulette numbers in French, the nonce. Les jeux sont fait! I ask you. You're mad. Yes yes. You all heard about the fate of the Mighty Sinister fussball team at the hands of Camera "cheating bastard wanky wanky poo smell arse and stuff like that quichey fools" Obscura well here are the facts. After severeal Sinister CHAMPIONS bravely volunteered to play instead of some poncey smellheads called Looper, for the first couple of games NOT EVEN HAVING TSHIRTS, the Mighty Sinister (with ME as manager and cheerleader) were in the final round. With "camera obscura" or what was that Sarah? The cheating "ringers" as I believe is the football parlance. They had a big bald scary psycho bloke who decided to bleed all over the pitch. He deserved it though. Fucker. Worst thing was that when Stuart came back with his gingernutty hairdo and sadly enough trousers (where are the short shorts?!) he stood with two girls who I don't like who were shouting for Camera Obscura. He didn't cheer for them in so many words but...the traitor! Overheard quote "looper are soundchecking so some kids from the sinister list are playing for them instead...i'm split in half really"....or something like that. I was scared how much I was getting carried away with shouting at football. WELL IN MY SON! on the head! OH REF!!!! I wish I had recorded samples of Timothea Hopkins GETTING IN THERE and turned it into a techno scratty anthem or something....its scary where my mind will go. The football was better than bands and me and Aisla kick ass as cheerleaders. OOOH AAAAH SINISTER SAY OOH AAAAAH SINISTERRRRRR....!!!! I see in the Melody Maker one of their scouts was wearing a Steps tshirt. I'm jealous! I bought Rollercoaster by B*witched for 99 pee in Tower Records in London Uk's hip'n'happenin' Camden Town on Tuesday. Camdens not as good as Notting Hill though. I'm going to LIVE there someday. Belle and Sebastian played really well. Now what I say here may sound snobby but I know I'm not the only one that thought it. Half the crowd were muthafreakin tossers. I think they thought B&S were Terrorvision or something where pushing people blatantly is acceptable! I actually walked out after two songs as I was getting SOOO mad! I then ran back and stood at the back and realised that I'm in love with Belle and Sebastian. And however P!O!P!ulistic they may get thats not going to change. Right here right now anyway. My nails are dirty.... what other bands did I see. Um...Delgados who were alright, Teenage Fanclub who were fun in the style of a comedy comb, urrrrrrr...the Amphetameanies who have a song all about whiskey which I know from somewhere but I can't think where...I saw Belle and Sebastian... shit I have to have seen more bands than just them! Thats nothing! I saw Duglas Stewart about a lot in a bluecoat jacket being a birrova wierdo. I drank a lot of beers and saw the sun come up upside down. And I danced badly as well, whilst wearing my twee outfit! Does anyone have pictures? I have pictures :) Oh yes :) I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Sarah +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eppie at xxx.ie Thu Apr 29 02:03:07 1999 From: eppie at xxx.ie (Martin Connelly) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 02:03:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Violence mars Dublin gig Message-ID: <000101be91dc$0b980f60$08cd7dc2@oemcomputer> Yes, Mr Murdoch must have learned a thing or two about expressing his emotions from Bowlie security. In Dublin a few hours ago, I almost choked on the biscuit I was nibbling as he smashed a guitar, threw it away, then sulked in the corner and Isobel left before the gig ended. My wife, who gave up on Oasis because of the rows and turned to the gentle warbling of Mr Murdoch, is now extracting hundred of splinters. If B&S remain functioning as a band, I imagine these can be encased in amber and sold for something like £16, which is what the tshirts cost. But can I even wear the t-shirt I bought, or will it be taken as a sign that I'm on for a bit of bovver? Oh well, back to the Field Mice compilation. Anyway, the set list: - The first few bars from "Whiskey in the Jar" in the tranquil Struan mode with just piano accompaniment (which, he surmised, probably surprised us and and the band, even to the extent that it might cause them involuntary bowel movements) - Slow graffiti - Seeing other people (IYFS version) - The State that I am in - Wrong girl - I know where the summer goes - New song from Isobel which might be called I married a fool and also had references to cages - Who's that girl (Stuart D) - I don't love anyone - Paper boat - Dog on wheels - Seymour Stein - Simple things - Photo Jenny (I got the impression that Isobel was to do a song at that point, but backed out. And Struan's mike stand fell or he pushed it over and then the strenuous guitar remodelling took place. Keith and Mr Miller, used to the Who, would have loved it.) But after a bit, Struan seemed to be prevailed on to do - The Boy with the Arab Strap - If you're feeling sinister was done as well (a few lines forgotten and I've forgotten where it featured; probably close to Paper Boat) But it was a great gig. Struan managed to stand on one leg, while shaking the other, for minutes at a time and sounded great and all those marvellous musical hooks sounded really fresh. And it made a change from the tranquility of the recent Mogwai gig in the same venue (although the crowd at that was much smaller). Now, to see if I can sleep after all that excitement and decide whether it would be safer to start wearing that Help the Aged tshirt again. Martin C +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Thu Apr 29 03:36:33 1999 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake E. Hamilton) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:36:33 -0400 Subject: Sinister: See me, feel me... (please) Message-ID: <000701be91e9$1921b700$304e1198@wfu.edu> Hi bunch! I wrote a confessional post the other day, asking for bright spots upon my visit to London in early May, and maybe even a mini sinister meetup for those of you who wanted to meet. Well, I haven't gotten any replies, and boy does it hurt. I understand if nobody wants to meet up but just a little insight on nice shops, places to visit would be great. I suppose everyone has a few weeks, but I'd really appreciate it! That goes the same for my B&S bowlie tape plea (please please!!!). For shame on all of you who didn't say hi to Jarvis. I'm thinking I would have given him a big hug, but then he might have walked away, babbling about what you really do with birds and grass... Oh, one more plea. I want a new cd. That's right, I want a new cd. I know nothing about the scene over there, thusly it's preferably be indie or British, and both is preferred :) Some early nominations from some sinisters on my icq list: Mojave 2 - Ask Me Tomorrow Magnetic Fields - Get Lost the album that gets the most votes, I will buy....if anyone's ambitious enough. and if nobody suggests anything, then i'll just rebuy a Who cd that I already have 5 versions of. love love blake ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ "I am not Jesus, though I have the same initials." - Jarvis Cocker +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah_drayton at xxx.com Thu Apr 29 04:53:19 1999 From: sarah_drayton at xxx.com (Sarah Drayton) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:53:19 PDT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19990429035320.82035.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi all I'm starting to feel sorry for poor old Jarv. In principle, I agree with everyone not going up to say hello, asking him inane questions etc but as he was there not as a big celebrity but as a fan...I just find it rude that everyone would gawk at him and snicker behind his back etc. Poor Jarvis! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erinlew at xxx.com Thu Apr 29 06:54:04 1999 From: erinlew at xxx.com (Miss Erin Nicole Lewis) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:54:04 PDT Subject: Sinister: Joey Lawrence had a bowlie haircut Message-ID: <19990429055405.14079.qmail@hotmail.com> Gee, you kids are swell. It's nice to know someone reads my posts, even if they are few and far between. Case in point: Kevan the Fat Slug said: >Thanks to Erin Lewis, and also Joss and Leagues, for convincing me >to go and see the Flaming Lips. They were absolutely brilliant. >Their gong and handpuppet antics were one of the highlights of the >weekend. Martin Robinson said: >Other highlights included: >The amazing Flaming Lips, I completely fell in love with their music >after about the second song To those who enjoyed the Flaming Lips show, I wholeheartedly recommend "Zaireeka", a ltd. edition 4-CD set they put out in 1997. Each of the CDs has the same 8 songs, with different mixes. You're supposed to play them on 4 different CD players at the same time, to get 8 separate speaker sounds. A community event! (The sad songs that the the plastic dinosaur hand puppet sang are on this album.) Q: What would "Dog on Wheels" sound like if there were 8 trumpets coming out of 4 CD players at the same time? Or 4 trumpets, 3 Isobels, and one glockenspiel? I need a vacation from graduate school (already), so I'm going to Australia in 5 days to spend two weeks with my honey. Hip hip hooray! I will be sure to wear my Lucksmiths radar while roaming the streets of Melbourne, and my Sodastream radar, too, if they are in town. And yes, "Happy Secret" is quite amazing. Love, Miss Erin P.S. Also quite amazing is "Telescopic" by Edith Frost. Sounds like Patsy Cline with fuzzbox and church bells. Yum! _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TheeXVirus at xxx.com Thu Apr 29 07:09:42 1999 From: TheeXVirus at xxx.com (TheeXVirus at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 02:09:42 EDT Subject: Sinister: this ain't no picnic (looper in irvine) Message-ID: <87bc71d6.245951a6@aol.com> does anyone know if the place where this is being held is really big or not? and in case anyone doesn't know looper is listed on the goldenvoice web site as playing there, it's in irvine on july fourth... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordi-tv at xxx.com Thu Apr 29 05:29:01 1999 From: jordi-tv at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano i Vilar) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 05:29:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: He made me laugh - I´ve got his autograph... Message-ID: <19990429082901.HM.00000000000Kkq7@mixmail.com> As I promised to him personally, yesterday I made a photocopy of Stu�s autograph, with the picture included. I don�t know if it could have been confused with one of the 10.000 fake paintings of Dali that were found yesterday in a house of an old english captain. But my request goes for another paths: when will we have the chance of seeing the pictures of this historical B&S gig ? come on, don�t be so shy and let�s show your happiness faces, specially at "the kids are alright". Oh, and so the Isobel�s song was a new one ? as the 95 % of you, I thought it was a cover from the Supremes or the Ronettes... Finally, I�d like to salute every sin isterite I met there, but now personally: Mark C. (did we draw at the beach football ?), Ailsa, Kevan (I forgot my rum�s bottle at your chalet, I bet you know about it...), Nick Dastoor, FunkySeb, Stevie Trousers, Matthew Hintz, and obviously, Fluffy Sarah and her cool handbag. You�ll have to make a copy of your Stu�s picture for me... Sorry If I forgot anyone, that�s as far as I can remember.... ========================== ======================== Jordiet Sinistre ================================================== Tu E-Mail Gratis en http://www.olemail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Thu Apr 29 07:46:07 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 02:46:07 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Bowlie Setlist Message-ID: <199904290247_MC2-73D0-C8D9@compuserve.com> Morning All, For those who have requested it: B&S camper sands slow graffiti seeing other people dog on wheels the wrong girl century of fakers i know where the summer goes winter wooskie simple things if you're feeling sinister i don't love anyone paper boat the boy with the arab strap photo jenny landslide lazy line painter jane the kids are alright (spelling mistakes as on the original) I didn't play or watch any football, I didn't attend any exclusive chalet parties, but I did have an excellent time and I want to do it again! Yesterday whilst analysing stock reports on the PC at work I realised I had been staring into space for ages in silly grin mode remembering ginger Stuart singing Photo Jenny & other chart toppers. Stirring moment when the whole hall seemed to sing along with him - all body hair at attention. Back to reality, See you David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.EDU Thu Apr 29 08:36:55 1999 From: ynoh at xxx.EDU (Youn Jong Noh) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: oh blake you can't sulk because you're the larger than life personality on the list! i was going to make up a game (but it seemed pointless in light of all the bowlie posts), a guessing game, and the clues for blake would have been rupert everett (in another country but not my best friend's wedding) as to appearance (unknown but imagined), the fellow with the lisp in brideshead revisited as to manner, truman capote as to heritage (the congeniality and decadence of the south) - "so here's your chance to make me feel awkward" - no this message is an appeal to the stiff upper-lip Britishers to extend a welcoming hand - perhaps i'm the last person you'd want to have on your side ... So more entries (reply to me) ... hey, this isn't in the vein of list crushes ... 1, ferris bueller 2. thurston moore or lou reed 3. david watts 4. marcellis (sp?) in the secret agent 5. (wicked) anabella good-bye! youn oh wait, so don't let our youth go to waste is originally by jonathan richman - what is it on? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paul.allen at xxx.de Thu Apr 29 09:10:25 1999 From: paul.allen at xxx.de (Paul Allen) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:10:25 +0200 (METDST) Subject: Sinister: A century of fey queers Message-ID: <199904290810.KAA11661@us2005.wdf.sap-ag.de> Bendy, bawdy, bowlie-bashing bastards! There are some things I love about Belle & Sebastian and others I do not. So it's a healthy relationship I guess. Still I'd never been able to understand this apparent obsession with calling them fey....eh? So, I looked in the dictionary: 1. Fated to die, doomed (chiefly Scot.) 2a. Able to see into the future, visionary b. Marked by an otherworldy air or attitude c. Crazy, touched 3a. Precious b. Unconventional, campy (?!) What do you think? (I like the 'morosely camp' thing) Paul. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mariannebratlie at xxx.com Thu Apr 29 10:40:53 1999 From: mariannebratlie at xxx.com (Marianne Bratlie) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 02:40:53 PDT Subject: Sinister: bowlie Message-ID: <19990429094053.62976.qmail@hotmail.com> Looks like my mail posted yesterday never reached the list, so I`ll try once more,.. I`we returned from the bowlie festival, and I`ve just got to tell somebody who can understand what I`m so exited about, what a great time I`ve had.(most of my friends aren`t that exited about B&S) The Belle gig was amazing, I`ve never seen them before (live in Norway) -so this was something I had been looking forward to for a long time.. Loved it when Monica sang Lazy lane painter Jane, during the gig I felt like a fourten year old teenager, couldn`t sing along, was afraid I`d start to cry.. Well, I`ve noticed some of you talking about the drug seeking sweeds, funny--we met them as well. But I never spoke to any sinisters though, maybe that`s because I missed the beach party sunday. Hope I will get another chance.I`m sure you`re all nice people. Thank you, "clean up stage guy" for giving me a plecter and broken drum stick, and to kind band member for taking the time talking with us,,,have to run now, I`m at the library, only got 15 minutes, people are in que... Cheers, hope you all had a great time. Marianne Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From radioheadsuck at xxx.com Thu Apr 29 10:56:43 1999 From: radioheadsuck at xxx.com (Seamus Harte) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:56:43 GMT Subject: Sinister: losing it? Message-ID: <19990429095644.75115.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi to everyone and no one all at the same time. Yeah I'm talking about our Stuart m, and the Olympia gig, he really did it, there was a satisfying crunch and you could see stu kinda realising 'ah ,that's what it sounds like' , and then maybe a touch of guilt, as he ponderously kicked it in to the corner. before that in the middle of one of the songs he just kicked the microphone stand down , with a kind of big forward step. and Isobel appeared to walk off , but you can never tell these things , does she normally play on 'The boy with the arab strap'? and I can reveil that that new Isobel Campbell song is call 'Wossil - --' (exactly) I can't remember the second word sorry I saw it in one of the set lists that were thrown out to the audience at the end. just so you all know mick was wearing that shirt again. Snowpatrol were great, The singer reminds me somehow of jon spencer. Anyone? Oh yeah ,I'm one of the fools that laid out �16 for a tee-shirt but in saying that that is in irish money , but it still seems a lot. thats me for another few months, before I go I better say hi to everyone I met there, and cheer up Isobel. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hopkinstim at xxx.com Thu Apr 29 13:12:31 1999 From: hopkinstim at xxx.com (Tim Hopkins) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 05:12:31 PDT Subject: Sinister: Ignoramomus, and the end of The Verve Message-ID: <19990429121232.47059.qmail@hotmail.com> I have a dream this morning. My dream is that every time there is a Bowlie, another dreadful overblown alt.rock group realises the truth and splits up forever. It certainly worked with the (un)lamentable Verve. I wonder who's next? Now then, back on the subject of Momus... (sorry it's been a while, but I've been, uh, otherwise engaged) Pulpbot wrote: >You friggin James Taylors, Now, that'll be rhyming slang for something, I assume, but I can't figure out what. Norman Mailers? Hay balers? Salty sailors? >I found his sub- >cabaret wurblings hard to fathom at first, and perhaps a good melody >isn't always atop his to-do list, but as I once told someone else on >this list, Momus' verbal jousts are a bit meatier than, say, Nick >Drake references. Oh, I agree with you that Momus is certainly 'meatier' (is that a recommendation?) than old Drakey, but then again, that's only like saying you prefer solid turds to runny ones. I always thought Nick Drake was a mewling ninny, and I still do. I must say that it is *enormously* important to me that the music I listen to is 'meaty'. What sort of meat is Momus like? Veal? Old mutton? Rancid pork? Glad that you've learned to understand Momus, though, cos the more records of his other people buy, the less I have to flick past. Momus's clever-clever 'verbal jousts' are masturbation every bit as damnable as the fret-wankery of a Steve Vai. Momus, as an artist, could find no use for Keith and Chris's machine. What I don't understand is that I've never heard anyone defend Momus on musical grounds: people (in my limited experience) tend to accept that his music's second-rate but insist that his lyrics are The Business. Which always makes me think 'buy a book and get on with listening to some decent music'. Perhaps I'm missing the point. >I find it hard to imagine that Stuart Murdoch hasn't been influenced >by Momus. Oh. Sorry, I was wrong. If *Stuart* likes Momus, then Momus must be fabulous. Forgive me for my folly... My guess is that most members of B&S have been influenced by music that I wouldn't want to touch with someone else's very long, spectacularly shitty bargepole. I've never seen a bargepole. Are they very, very long? >Shades of the birth of Athena, yes? I wouldn't know about that, but my mate's big sister used to have a picture of an airbrushed lady in shades. The picture was bought from Athena. The branch in Exeter High Street. The lady had rainbow eyeshadow and was sucking Coca Cola through a straw. Is that the sort of thing you mean? Incidentally, I don't think that what I'm saying about Momus (or Lickle Nicky Drakey) is *true* in any sense outside the fact that I think it. I'm certainly not trying to suggest that there's anything wrong with liking or disliking anything at all. I know that some of the people reading this love some (maybe all) of the artistes I've mentioned, and I really hope that me expressing my dislike of them doesn't offend you. I'm not sure why it would, but I understand that it might. The trouble is, it's such fun to talk about it. If I were being truthful and balanced, I'd tell you that I haven't heard a Momus record in several years, having been subjected to many in the years before I became rude enough to say 'take that shite off'. Maybe he's got better. But it's probably more fun just to slag him off. love and peace, maaaan, Tim ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Thu Apr 29 13:15:23 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:15:23 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: The best subject-lifter in the world Message-ID: Hey,more tweekender to add to sinister : I don't doubt Alasdair's footballistic skills,and I would strong recommend his signing up by Real Madrid instead of that curly-haired lad coming down from Ansfield Road,but apart from being a master in the ancient art of feint,he is also pretty clever in stealing meaty subjects,as I had planned long ago to title my compulsory essay (4000 words?)about B.W. '2 and 1/2 days in love with you',but he was faster!!! A bit of the common stuff : Cornelius was astonishing,Sleater Kinney a necessary refreshing bit of girlie-rough,I waited to see how Ladybug transistor were before purchasing some of their lovely merchandising and then it was too late but they were lovely,and Belle were simply wonderful! Someone approached to mournful Jarvis with some silly comment just to make conversation and I live with her(...),Chris G and Sarah M are my favourite ones in the collection,Sussex cream tea to blame because of missing Looper,sand in all the sandwiches.All the sinisterines we met were so nice,Fluffy who finally honoured me with some words in Spanish for her fans,Mark,who explained to this ignorant foreigner what French cricket was,Bridget 'Susannah' Jones who told me I resembled Juliette Binoche,I need your phone number to push up my ego-rate when I am down!,Matthew and Brian,Ailsa who wisely prevented me to waste my time seeing Cinema,Laurel,Rachel,NICK Dastoor,two smiling blokes who accepted our chocolate brownies in the beach-picnic,and Tim Hopkins' impersonator.I am afraid this latter is a dangerous man...he even told me he was from Sidmouth,one of those details that make me to trust him completely.I feel now as one of those old ladies who are some teenage psychokiller's neighbours and tell they cannot believe what went wrong,he was such a polite little boy,he always cut the lawn in time and did his homework.I must be so gullible... I lost the plot (and three badges at least!) xxxx Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Thu Apr 29 13:51:51 1999 From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael Barrett) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:51:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: oooo, get me away from here, i'm still jealous... References: <00cb01be9198$f8aa00e0$e829d4d4@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <02bd01be923f$0e4c50f0$b62fc22b@karoo> > the perhaps now legendary mobile wanking device (can I get the > blueprints...?) I must apologise for the brevity of my message, but I thought a few of you might be interested in this site (and it is genuine)... http://www.patents.ibm.com/details?patent_number=5501650 Michael PS And let me get this right, Bowlie was a bit shit, right? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From justin at xxx.com Thu Apr 29 16:40:42 1999 From: justin at xxx.com (Justin Williams) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:40:42 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Poor Jarvis indeed... Message-ID: <4.1.19990429103009.009714a0@delafont.com> >In principle, I agree with everyone not going up to say hello, asking him inane questions >etc but as he was there not as a big celebrity but as a fan...I just >find it rude that everyone would gawk at him and snicker behind his >back etc. Poor Jarvis! Have I missed something? Did Jarvis make an arse out of himself in public or something of the sorts to deserve not saying hello? Is it because of the big head he tends to have? The fact that anyone would snicker at him just gets to me, I mean who do they think they are? Just because they are fans of an up and coming B&S shouldn't mean that they feel a disdain for established bands if that is indeed why they did it. I saw Pulp in Philadelphia awhile back and I had to swim through the magic in the air there. If someone would help explain to me these reactions to ol' Jarv I would appreciate it. Justin W Felonius Monk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nickdastoor at xxx.com Thu Apr 29 16:48:00 1999 From: nickdastoor at xxx.com (Nick Dastoor) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:48:00 PDT Subject: Sinister: Bowlie Ink Polaroids (Or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love anal sex') Message-ID: <19990429154801.51483.qmail@hotmail.com> I'm joining all this a bit late, as I've been off work till today. People have been talking about me. I liked the way Arantxa put my first name in CAPITALS. She was one of nine people I kissed at the weekend, but before her boyfriend hits me it wasn't one of the four that I kissed on the lips. I like this Sinister Slut game. Some Ink Polaroids: This one looks like it was taken in a very authentic English pub. It depicts a painfully thin boy grinning and shaking his hips in a suggestive manner at a lascivious-looking girl in glasses. There are several seated onlookers. He may be performing for money. Looming in the background, unbeknownst to boy, is a group of disapproving looking people who look like they know the skinny boy but NOT LIKE THIS. I call this one 'When Sinister and real-world friends collide'. This is one of those crazy 'I'm taking a picture of you whilst you take one of me' photos. Except I only had this ink polaroid camera so it's a bit different. It's taken on lovely secluded spot on the dunes, but nothing rude is going on or anything - there are lots of people about, sitting on blankets, chatting away happily and drawing faces in the sand. Anyway, the pretty girl with ice blonde hair with the real polaroid camera is smiling at me. Behind her sits another ice-blonde queen who is also pretty. I think my picture is better than hers because I haven't got ice blonde hair and I'm not as pretty. And anyway, I don't think she's got the hang of the light-dark control, so hers is a bit over-exposed. Very odd this one. I must have been taken outdoors in middle of the night, and it really tests the powers of the flash. At first all you can make out is the moon and several red-eyed faces looking startled by the photographer. But what's that looming behind them? Why it looks for all the world like a man with a horse's head emerging from the sea. Another reason why ink polaroids are best: you can get away with taking them in concert halls. This one's during 'If You're Feeling Sinister'. It's taken from a great position, only one row from the front and dead centre. The band look good. Except Straun - he needs to do something about his hair. All eyes are on Stevie, who is grinning like an idiot, clearly enjoying the adulation that his fantastic steel-guitaresque playing is receiving. Mick's smiling too, obviously pleased with his mastery of the opening guitar chords. Taken a few moments later, but this time from a reverse angle - I'm holding the camera out and pointing it at me. And none of the security staff can do a thing about it. I've got tears in my eyes. Behind me are a group of people I don't know. They're not crying, so anyone looking at the photo who didn't know what was going on might think they're the ones who made me cry, which isn't true, although I wish they would let me let my feet have their own space on the floor. Near the bar, 30 minutes afterwards. I don't know who took this one for me, but I'm glad they did. I'm looking happier than I've looked all weekend. I'm kissing an super-cute girl goodbye until later. Except there was no later. SPECIAL THANKS TO: Rachel, for starting the whole 'nick's the cutest boy on the sinister list' rumour. Susannah, for failing to going along with Rachel's attempts to set us up. Andy Dean, for sensibly pointing out that she would eat me alive. Trousers, for perpetuating the 'nick's the cutest boy on the sinister list' rumour. And for paying me 80p to kiss him, as well as contributing the 'Snog Leonard' fund. Chris Leonard, for insisting on no tongues. Kevan, Mark, Alisa, Alix, Mark, Vicky and Alasdair for putting up with me waking up your chalet two nights in a row and still finding it in your heart to let me play french cricket with you. Laurel, for her one-woman Isobel Campbell bombing campaign and for saying that I dance like I have no bones. Which I think was a good thing. Keith, for wanking me off. Katrina, for breezing in on Saturday morning to spoil David's 'Ooh, I can't tell you who the mystery guests are but they're Scottish and have a new album out and they were in The Face' game by saying 'It's Mogwai'. Tim Hopkins imposter, for being a drunken oaf and putting up with Michael ra-ing on about Exeter City. Tag, for giving me the horn. I've lost mine - do you know how I could get another? Mike, for being steady. Giita and her friend (sorry - there was no Eastenders mnemonic to help me) for being those lovely Icelandic girls on the beach. I've never met an Icelandic girl I don't like, so maybe I'm not the best person to judge. But my flatmate Michael thought you were lovely too. Joss, for putting up with me misunderstanding your name twice and thinking that you reminded me of a nice version of that annoying bloke off Moviedrome (not that I told you about the second bit). And for joining in a Flaming Lips gushing session. Risso, for being generally great and not taking it badly when you let me tell your whole long-winded Alex Ferguson / Arsene Wenger joke only for me to say at the end 'Yeah, I've heard that one before' like a little twerp. Paul and Linda, for proving they exist. Sorry I missed out on your drunken Sunday night laptop dancing, I mean laptop emailing. The other nickie, for being in the foreground of my last ink polaroid. I can't believe I didn't recognise you. Write to me! And... Arantxa and Jordi and Rory and Pam and FluffySarah and everyone else. You know who you are. Which is just as well, as I don't know who you are. Nick xxxxx P.S. I don't think anyone has mentioned that according to Steve Lamacq, Radio 1 *will* be broadcasting the B&S set at some point, but that the band want to hear the tapes first. So they can doctor them and make them sound better, or some ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From asbuch at xxx.edu Thu Apr 29 17:37:31 1999 From: asbuch at xxx.edu (Heather Marie Propes) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:37:31 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: definition of "pop" for collectors website Message-ID: (If you have alreay seen this message, then I apologize. I thought there was something wrong with the email address I used originally) Hi all, I'm trying to write a short entry on the "pop" subculture for a "record-collecting lingo" dictionary at http://www.collectorsuniverse.com/. I would like to know, what are the various sub-genres of "pop" (i.e., britpop, indiepop, tweepop) and what defines each subgenre and distinguishes it from the rest? Also, which "pop" bands, albums, artifacts, etc (aside from Tigermilk) are the most collectible? If anyone could steer me in the right direction, I'd be most apprecicative. Later, I may be writing an article on the same, so if you help me out, I'll use your name. Of course, it may end up just living on my hard disc, but at any rate, your name will still be on it. Best, http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop Heather Marie Propes asbuch at midway.uchicago.edu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Thu Apr 29 18:24:36 1999 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:24:36 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: A post-bowlie coach story Message-ID: Hi de hi campers! There I was, sitting on the coach with Arantxa, about half an hour from home, wondering what I was going to take my last photo of when everything started to go a bit misty. First of all I figured my brain was just a bit addled after all the booze I drank on Saturday, or that maybe, after B&S on Sunday, I'd decided that my life was complete and the mists of the afterlife had descended to carry me off to Narnia. Unfortunately life's never quite so melodramatic is it? Anyway, other people noticed the smoke ( for aye, 'twas smoke ) and told the driver and we all ended up huddled together on the hard shoulder like a flock of shorn sheep in a snowstorm. It turned out that a drunk old Scottish man had been sitting in the toilet, smoking and singing, and must have set fire to the toilet seat, or his pants, or his polyester moustache, or something. But just in case it was anything slightly more serious like the engine being about to explode we had to wait around for another coach for half an hour. Grrrr... So the coach came, and our driver drove off in the first, smoke-filled coach like Biggles, valiantly landing a burning plane. We arrived back eventually, after about ten hours travelling, to the drunken, drunken singing of that drunken man and Stuart's perfomance the day before seemed a long time ago. Anyway - the Bowlie was ace, wasn't it? It's a bit of a culture shock coming back to a place where people aren't so friendly and sweet, and you don't bump into famous people in the street. The loveliest people of them all were the Sinister folk of course - Alisdair the footballing superstar, Kevan, Ailsa, Mark, Vicky, some bloke in a hat, Matthew, Fluffy Sarah who I kept bumping into when I was lost and confused, and lots of other people who were pointed out to me and I expect I just leered at hopelessly. Cornelius were a pleasant surprise, Mercury Rev were a bit disappointing, but Belle and Sebastian were astonishing, I really didn't think their sound would come across so well. I loved Winter Whatsit by the way. Stuart D is de man. Then there were the red sheep and Vegas amusements and Stuart's hat and that funny bluecoat and a strange party we ended up at and lots of other memories that haven't quite sorted themselves out yet. I think it's time to go back to bed. Next Bowlie, Saturday, my place, bring your own pop. Robin xxxxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Power15755 at xxx.com Thu Apr 29 19:38:08 1999 From: Power15755 at xxx.com (Power15755 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:38:08 EDT Subject: Sinister: Finally: My first posting Message-ID: Hello, you lovely people, I've been on the list for about 6 weeks now and I was lurking for longer then I should, so I thought it's time to introduce myself. Except that there's not much I could tell you about myself - so ... ------ CAUTION! -------- More Bowlie ramblings! ----------- You don't have to read it if you don't want to. Well, what can I say that hasn't been said already? Reading all your postings, it looks like I missed out on quite a few things, like the football (I don't care about football at all but if I had known that B & S were playing I had watched it) and the party on Sunday night because when all the gigs where over I could hardly move and all I really wanted to do was go to bed, but still it was the best weekend of my life so far! Although I had checked in q u i t e early, I was lucky enough to see the street gig on Friday (well, the last 4 songs but I suppose they didn't play much more, or did they?), which was so sweet ... Can you imagine any other band doing this? I certainly can't! So that was a good start. And I saw every single band that was on stage 1! And there wasn't even one who was really bad. Not even the Jon Spencer Blues Explosion who I always disliked. I was giggling all the way through their set at Jon Spencer's rock star behaviour. But maybe it was just the beer I had before they came on. Basically I only watched the bands on Friday because there wasn't anything else to do but on Saturday and Sunday my 2 favourite bands were both on last and I never saw them live before, so me and my friend thought we better go there as early as possible to be right down the front. I never thought I could stand there for about 6 hours 2 days in a row but I did and it was well worth it! Bands I really liked and didn't know before were the lovely Sodastream and the Ladybug Transistor - someone here (sorry, I can't remember who it was) said they were crap but I didn't think so. And the V-Twin were pretty good as well. As for my beloved Divine Comedy, they have so many songs I love which they didn't play but still they were fantastic and I definitely didn't regret waiting for 5 hours for them to come on. And Belle & Sebastian ... They were the best band I've seen all weekend. It was soooo beautiful ... The only bad thing being that their set was over far too soon. Before they came on I felt like I was about to pass out because it was so hot and the last time I had enough space to sit on the floor was before Broadcast came on and I hardly ate anything all day but as soon as B & S were on stage I couldn't have felt better. I waited for about 2 years to see them and I certainly wasn't disappointed. It was so nice to finally hear all these songs I love so much and the most beautiful voice I know live and to see that the man this voice belongs to was exactly like I imagined him. Lovely. I just wish I had met some more of you. I was on the doubledecker bus too but the only people I spoke to were the 2 nice boys me and my friend shared the chalet with (Hello to Matthew and Brian!!). But I really want to try and get to know some more of you before the next Bowlie. I definitely will be there! Antje P.S. I'm still wearing my wristband too. That's pretty sad, isn't it? But I have to remind myself all the time that it wasn't just a dream. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Thu Apr 29 19:49:27 1999 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Fluffy Sarah) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:49:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: unrock coffee house folk... Message-ID: forwarded from brian... BELLE AND SEBASTIAN: If You're Feeling Sinister (The Enclave, November 1996) This instrument-switching Scottish outfit represented the ultimate triumph of twee, that British subgenre that applies rock-style hipness and amateurish fervor to unrock interests such as coffeehouse folk, French 1960s pop and the works of Burt Bacharach. Casually led by real- life choirboy and Smiths admirer Stuart Murdoch, Belle and Sebastian attached cello, trumpet and strings to a skiffle beat and melodies devised after hours of lonely listening to vintage Top Forty radio. Not since Nick Drake had so quiet a band spoken so loudly. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Sarah +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nkrajewski at xxx.uk Thu Apr 29 19:44:45 1999 From: nkrajewski at xxx.uk (Neil Krajewski) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:44:45 +0100 Subject: Sinister: London picnic Message-ID: <00fa01be9271$24464fa0$0df8f7c2@p7t6j7> Hi all, I had recently recovered from a bout of Bowlie blues on Monday night after the highlights on Radio 1, which seemed to omit sets from all the bands bar the insipid live experience of Mercury Rev who never seem to match the brilliance of their albums. That was until everyone returned home and posted their diaries and other spin offs from what seemed to have to been a perfect weekend. All I can say is I wish i'd joined the list earlier and found out what congenial people u all seem to be and then I may well have braved the intimidation and gone alone providing someone would have accommodated me obviously. Anyway if there's a next time, I'll be there. On to the main focus of this message which is somewhat unsurprisingly intricately linked to the subject. Basically is anyone going to Big Stu's picnic in our wonderful capital city on Monday? I presume that is too close to Bowlie for any of u to bother, but if people are going I won't begrudge the train fare too much. Now on to what I'm sure you're glad to hear is the final phase of this message and it also the most irrelavent section of this post. Yesterday I had a rather surreal experience linked to the mystical tales portrayed on the fantastic Looper LP. Basically some one was walking round and round a table and it prompted a inexplicable bout of hysteria which I could not articulate the reason for to those non believers gathered around me. Has anyone had a similar experience based on a tale on a Looper song. Have u for example seen a car parked everywhere, or a young child 'burning flies. Anyway enough of these message fillers, I'm always being told to be more concise and less verbose. Bye Neil Krajewski +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vlass at xxx.com Thu Apr 29 20:05:37 1999 From: vlass at xxx.com (vlass at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:05:37 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Toronto Picnic! Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19990429190537.00af6310@mail.interlog.com> hellooo while all of you were nambling and pambling down in cambersands (gah, your stories are all so wonderful and jealousy-inducing. the whole jarvis cocker bit amuses me to no end as well.. hee) finally some torontonians have banded together to actually organize our own sinister picnic, and i know there are more of you out there who may be interested in coming so here are the details we have so far - it will be may 29th (a saturday, right?) in the lovely high park, although we will have to be a little careful - we don't want to get raped or anything (argh, tasteless joke.. but wait, that's what the sinister list is for!). each of us can bring some food, we have a checkered blanket for the authentic picnic effect and who knows what it will lead to? for further details, email me and you can be let in in our little picnic-ring email list :) teri xxxxxxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnk at xxx.gr Thu Apr 29 20:28:17 1999 From: johnk at xxx.gr (John Koliopanos) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:28:17 +0300 Subject: Sinister: Toronto Picnic! References: <1.5.4.32.19990429190537.00af6310@mail.interlog.com> Message-ID: <3728B2D0.E2D5CF6F@flash.gr> > (gah, your stories are all so wonderful and jealousy-inducing. the whole > jarvis cocker > bit amuses me to no end as well.. hee) Yeah, I too found that quite amusing. Teri, remember back in July after the "indie" festival here in Athens when we saw that double of Jarvis, "easing" his feet into the sea. That was quite fun, wasn't it? I still think it might actually have been Jarvis himself. And Daphne still has nightmares about it, poor thing. Haha. Hey, see you in about a month! *hooray* By the way, Honey, could you please drop the list a line as soon as there are Bowlie photies up on your site? I can't wait to see some evidence of all those filthy stories I've been reading the last couple of days! John x x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hynesdj at xxx.ie Thu Apr 29 22:02:20 1999 From: hynesdj at xxx.ie (Declan and Noren Hynes) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:02:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: This wasn't just ANY modern rock song.... Message-ID: <01BE928C.0C084D60.hynesdj@iol.ie> i never post to the list, i could fall under the catagory of "lurker" if i had the time to lurk. but i feel compelled to post. i saw belle and sebastian last night after about 3 years of anticipation..... it was possibly the most surreal gig i've ever been to.... snow patrol were nice 'n noisy and i was told i look like isobel which obviously i was well chuffed at.... but then... first of all it's crude to say so, and i didn't notice until a friend pointed it out to me, but stuart was "flying low". i fell so embarassed for the boy, 'cos once i'd copped on to it i realised that everyone else knew. people were whispering "someone should tell the bloke"... but nobody could bring themselves to do it. i just put such earthly things out of my mind and continued to enjoy the heady heights of sonic pleasure. that is until some loud types decided to inform stuart of the situation. "stuart, yer flying low" was bellowed much to everyones relief/embarassment. but the kid didn't seem to understand and continued with the set, looking bored during songs and fluffing his words. then he kicked over the microphone stand oddly enough.... but that wasn't it for stuarts outbursts... at the end of the second last song he smashed his guitar and kicked some amps about, much to about half the crowd's pleasure. the other half, myself included were a bit shocked. i'm not sure whether it was before this display of rock n' roll excess or not but isobel sort of stormed off the stage grabbing her jacket. stuart said "sorry" and played the last song. then they all rambled off disjointly. the crowd couldn't believe it was over and we stayed clapping for another half an hour, mercury rev stayed up in their side stage box aswell, we all expected more. nobody believed it was over, not even when they gave out the setlist. we were all waiting for more. more of what though? the boys and girls onstage looked bored and unhappy. the music was wonderful, but the onstage atmosphere left alot to be desired. i'd like to know what was going on, but at the same time i wouldn't. from the first notes of "slow graffiti" i forgot everything else in my life and enjoyed the music for what it was.... beautiful. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ecsamenz at xxx.uk Fri Apr 30 03:16:49 1999 From: ecsamenz at xxx.uk (Amy) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:16:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: This wasn't just ANY modern rock song.... Message-ID: > then he kicked over the microphone stand oddly enough.... but > that wasn't it for stuarts outbursts... at the end of the second > last song he smashed his guitar and kicked some amps about What's going on? Are b&s getting violent? Are they going to turn into some sort of who+death metal+angsty teen destruction musical brainwashing cult? Or are they already...??Ahhhhh! Bus story: A drunken man sort of told me off in a slurred way for reading on the bus. Apparently "conversation is the art". I'm not sure he was terribly skilled in it in that state. Amy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From muddled at xxx.com Thu Apr 29 23:40:37 1999 From: muddled at xxx.com (damien) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:40:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Dublin Guitar Tomfoolery/Virginal Post/Other Assorted Shananigan Message-ID: <199904292141.OAA20808@geocities.com> Hello Sinister! Seeing as this is my first ever post I feel I should begin by giving a big welcoming wave to everyone here, 'specially the irish listees. Last night here in Dublin was also the scene of another one of my virginous losses : b&s live. First, setlist... >From Martin's post : > - The first few bars from "Whiskey in the Jar" in the tranquil Struan mode > with just piano accompaniment (which, he surmised, probably surprised us and > and the band, even to the extent that it might cause them involuntary bowel > movements) reminded me of when my mum used to sing me to sleep as a kid with 'as I was going over, the cork and kerry mountains....' Stuarts version held far more affinity with my mothers version then Thin Lizzy's. > - Slow graffiti > - Seeing other people (IYFS version) > - The State that I am in This was the Tigermilk version FYI - and astoundingly brilliant it was too. > - Wrong girl > - I know where the summer goes > - New song from Isobel which might be called I married a fool and also had > references to cages > - Who's that girl (Stuart D) These last two were down as 'Family tree' and 'Winter Wooskie' on the setlist, respectively. > - I don't love anyone > - Paper boat > - Dog on wheels > - Seymour Stein > - Simple things Was actually last on the setlist but Stuart told everyone he wanted to play it here instead > - Photo Jenny (I got the impression that Isobel was to do a song at that > point, but backed out. I don't think this was the case... > And Struan's mike stand fell or he pushed it over He kicked it over I think.... > and then the strenuous guitar remodelling took place. Keith and Mr Miller, > used to the Who, would have loved it.) But after a bit, Struan seemed to be > prevailed on to do > - The Boy with the Arab Strap Right... the guitar smashing stuff. I was right at the front and centre (and was intensely concentrating on the minutest facial expression all night) so I thing there may be a bit more to it then has been made out. First up, I don't know what Isobel's usual stage demenour is but last night she was *not* happy. She only gave half a smile once during the gig, when Stuart wispered something to her between songs. She looked like she was pissed off, and did not want to be there at all. Then during photo jenny Isobel was playing bass, and Stuart looked back at her a few times and it was clear that there was something going on... he seemed agitated and distracted, and fluffed the words at one point. Even before the song was fully over he took off his guitar (a rather nice-looking cream semi acoustic) and a look of complete anger and malevolance came over his face. He smashed it as hard as you can possibly imagine over the monitor and then gave it a fairly hefty kick. This was not a kurt cobain-esque 'look at me... i can smash things too...'... this seemed to be done completely out of anger and frustration. To tell you the truth, it was kind of scary... I was only a couple of meters away with no living being between myself and said smashing. Its not exactly the twee-est thing to do, is it? Anyway, Isobel got her jacket and rushed off stage... Stuart went to the keyboard and talked to Chris for a sec, shaking his head. He got it together to play The boy with the arab strap and that was that. After a long wait around the side afterwards, a nice rodie type person went and found a small (maybe 1 inch by a half and inch) piece of the guitar. Also Chris and his girlfriend came out and they were really really nice and friendly. He said he didn't know exactly what had happened and didn't seem too bothered. All he said was really that they were 'probably back at the hotel, tearing each others eyes out'. He also mentioned that the bowlie promotors wanted to do another one in sept, but he didn't know if b&s would be involved :( On another, less violent note... I saw my first ever real life copy of Tigermilk yesterday, and also heard a jeepster-type guy say that they'd just decided on July 12th as the re-issue date. He went on about the packaging as if it was going to be all 7 wonders of the modern world together in one record sleve... and how it was going to be 9 pounds & they wouldn't make any money on it => a lie, unless were talking diamond studded, gold plated grooves, etc. Oh yeah, and tshirt prices at 16 pounds irish is still about 14 pounds uk. Pricey enough... although you got a handful of free badges with that too. I think the venue was taking a cut, that's why the prices were so high. That's capitalism for you. Maybe the belles should think about doing it independently next time (ie, play in my living room for free, tshirts 2.50 and free sexual favours). Anyhow, I fear I may have overstepped my boundries here.. so i'll be content with my memories of the lovely scottish bloke in the crowd who shouted for "Ma Wunderin' Daes Ar U-ver", and head off to bed. ps I'm sick -Damien +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Thu Apr 29 23:45:06 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:45:06 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: (peep) In-Reply-To: <3728B2D0.E2D5CF6F@flash.gr> Message-ID: You. I'm sorry I haven't poked my head above the trench since I got back from Bowlie, but I'm listening, I'm listening. I have to take some demented trip to Bradford tomorrow to view my Dad's "past", and how life was tough in the 30s, porridge and all that, but I'll be back Sunday or early next week and I'll do all those things you're all used to me doing then, like putting up photos, fixing some list problems people have mailed me about and generally tending to the Sinister garden with my little plastic trowel. Until then please be patient, and good, because no-one's here to wash your hands when you come in for tea. Oh and everyone at the Bowlie doodah was SO lovely, and it was a little joy I'll cherish for a long time to finally see so many little sinistereen smiling inebriated faces. But none of you knocked on my chalet door at 4am did you? Red light above the door and everything. Oh well. If you're on the A1 tomorrow give me a wave. Black Polo. Car not sweater. Honey x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From painbirds at xxx.com Fri Apr 30 11:29:28 1999 From: painbirds at xxx.com (Craig-Lee Thompson) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 03:29:28 PDT Subject: Sinister: Superfreaky memories at Bowlie??? Message-ID: <19990430102928.63387.qmail@hotmail.com> So you were at Bowlie and receive B&S mail. Craig assumes you have finely honed musical tastes. If this assumption is in fact true then you would have also seen Luna live during this musical extravaganza. If so, how fantastic, did they play any Galaxie 500 covers, is it still an authentic cover if you were a member in the band you are covering and did they play many a track of the forthcoming (well it is still forthcoming in Australia) album??? On the other hand, Luna playing at Bowlie may have been no more than a rumour and no one need say a thing.... Thanks for your time, Craig-Lee Smiths & Morrissey and Bible studies??? Are the rumours of a Melbourne Sinister picnic/night at 'The Nightcat' true??? If yes, when??? gotta love the Nightcat, R.I.P E.B.V.P...... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Fri Apr 30 11:51:22 1999 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:51:22 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: London picnic In-Reply-To: <00fa01be9271$24464fa0$0df8f7c2@p7t6j7> Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Neil Krajewski wrote: > > On to the main focus of this message which is somewhat unsurprisingly > intricately linked to the subject. Basically is anyone going to Big Stu's > picnic in our wonderful capital city on Monday? I presume that is too close > to Bowlie for any of u to bother, but if people are going I won't begrudge > the train fare too much. On the basis of the people I've spoken to / have emailed me about it, quite a lot of people are. Apparently the weather forecast for Monday afternoon is fantastic, so everybody come on down and join us! Details available at the Jeepster message board. I'm travelling 60 miles to get there... OK, begging time. If anyone important is reading this, could the next Bowlie be in September, not October please? I'm leaving the country on October 1 for several months... I don't want to miss it a second time... Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From funkyseb at xxx.com Fri Apr 30 13:07:44 1999 From: funkyseb at xxx.com (funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 99 13:07:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: You made me forget my beans Message-ID: .....damn, I missed Chris Geddes disco set. What a pathetic subject pun, I apologise unreservedly :-) Anyway, on to more pressing matters. An appeal, for a very worthy cause which I hope Honey will indulge me with. Here on sinister, we take certain things for granted. Wit, company, and a constant stream of post. We want for nothing, except maybe the odd win at the football, and a go on te wanking machne. But not far from here, there are a group of people, so miserable, dull and lonely, that they spend their days playing e mail hangman. These people are just like us, they hum the same tunes, they wear the same badges. And yet, for want of proper attention, these people are rotting away. By CCing just one of your sinister posts to the Belle&sebastian list, you can give these poor fuckers the greatest gift of all- the gift of friendship. Or at least the gift of not feeling like a total no mates. If no one acts, these people could lose the power of speech altogether. Give a man the power of words, and he can post for a lifetime. Thank You. SMASH!CrasH!@!BaNg!!$^%$CrUnCh! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snorman at xxx.uk Fri Apr 30 13:21:58 1999 From: snorman at xxx.uk (Sam Norman) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:21:58 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: my friends & we won 10 - 9!!! (fwd) Message-ID: so you must have all seen the melody maker review of "our" weekend by now. well those three girls are my friends and as anyone one who was on the beach on sunday will know that windmill, twirly thing that alice is holding is MINE! My windmill, twirly thingie is famous! all that was going on the beach whilst we were playing football. oh and Jordi we won 10 - 9!!! anyway they miss quoted everything they said as Jess never said a word and hated John Spencer. For it was Laura who loved JSBX! crappy melody maker having to make things up again. Anyway I had a lovely time, see you all on Monday no doubt Sam +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MartinW at xxx.uk Fri Apr 30 14:56:03 1999 From: MartinW at xxx.uk (Martin Wilson) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:56:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Dirty Post No.1 Message-ID: <7F30E08893F4D11194770060084C6EA1127EF8@ntserver2.ucscarb.ac.uk> Whew! free of the nursery at last. I was getting fed up of rusks and rose hip syrup. I must just have a brief practice posting before I go back to counting fishing boats for the EU. I'm a fairly recent convert to Bellsebism after borrowing If You're Feeling Sinister & Boy With The Arab Strap from my friend Greg a couple of months ago; that makes at least 4 B&S fans in York judging from the list list (actually there are lots of sinister people in York but only in the conventional sense). I also did not Bowlie, partly because that nasty Mr Blair set the National Minimum Drudge rate too low and partly because I'm too old and slow (the Y40M countdown clock is at -359 days and counting)*. However I do get to work at the seaside so I went down to the beach and whistled Dog On Wheels for a bit at lunchtime. Ah well I said it would be brief. Back to the fish... *Does this make me the oldest inhabitant of Sinisterland, and if so do I get a telegram from Isobel next year? Martin --------------------------------------------------------------- "...it could have been a brilliant career." --------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From PIA96SJP at xxx.uk Fri Apr 30 17:07:18 1999 From: PIA96SJP at xxx.uk (S.J.Peet) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:07:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: It's 1995 the girls are just friends... Message-ID: <28FF17D4956@digley.shef.ac.uk> WOW !! Belle and Sebastian just got a mention on my favourite programme ! I'd just come back from making a cuppa during the break in my daily fix of Fifteen-to-One (hardcore general knowledge quiz for our non UK chums) and was just snuggling into the sofa when the question came up: "Which Glaswegan pop group recently won a Brit award for best British newcomer" ! I nearly spilled my tea ! Oh, and the girls answer ? Stereophonics... I don't think so. I just had to don my cardie and rush down to Uni. and tell you all - it's made my bank holiday. Is anyone else still stumbling round in a post-Bowlie daze ? I just don't know what to do with myself. Hugs 'n stuff Stevie P. p.s. How do you spell Glaswegan ? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From funkyseb at xxx.com Fri Apr 30 17:22:24 1999 From: funkyseb at xxx.com (funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 99 17:22:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I am Murdoch, hear me R!O!C!K! Message-ID: Hoorah! It's 4.15 on Friday afternoon! In 95 minutes, I'll be skipping under the lilacs down freedom street. For Monday is a holiday of bankness, and there'll be lots of lying about under the delicious green canopy of London Planes to be done. Mmm! Boaters! Stripy Blazers! Pork pies and Punts! P!I!C!N!I!C! Does anyone else feel this excited after bowlie? Since last Sunday, I've felt like a dog with two cocks, four bollocks, and a whole brace of tits for good measure. Woof! I've come back determined to be a pop star before the end of the month, and determined to write a play by Tuesday. I've got an explanation for it of course. Struan has learnt how to harness the power of evil, and use it for good deeds. He discovered the relevant runes engraved in the lino flooring of his church hall, as he was scrubbing it one day. "Well well", quoth the silver trousered troubadour, scratching his head, "I'll bet these marks mean something." So he ran in an odd mannerall the way to the library, and looked up the runes in a big book called "Satanic language-and what it means" "Chapter VII" He read, his lips moving gently "concerning the transformation of the weak into strong, the old into the young, and the despair into hope." As he read on, a plan began to form in his head. The book said that wherever great numbers of people are of one mind, given the right circumstances, great quantaties of shite could be made gold, so to speak. "That sounds good, eh?" stuart called out of the window, to where he'd parked his dog. Woof, said the dog, sniffing a bollard, and eyeing an approaching traffic warden with suspicion. Before you could say "Pontin's", our hero had hired a holiday camp, and filled it with dreamers. 3 days later, they all staggered out, giddy with excitment and happiness. The only side effects had been Stuart's hair turning a silly colour, and the total disappearance of the V*rve. This was going well. Over the next day or two, Stuart practiced his craft, turning an egg into a nice surprise, and a passer by's scowl into a KitKat. It was time to set off to Dublin. It was to be the culmination of his work. Stuart was going to turn the Troubles into a really nice picnic. But it was clear that the power was too strong to control. As the band walked to the venue, parking meters spontaneously exploded into trees. Tramps started to tear apart, and unleash cute puppies and adorable kittens from their smelly stomachs. The rest of the evening was a blur for Struan M. Fans at the gig complained that their Guinness was turning into big foamy turds before they could drink it. Closer to the stage, and Mullets sprouted from peoples heads, and flares turned to blue denim dungarees. Stuarts eyes turned red. "I AM EVIL!!!!!" He grunted. His eyes darted around the stage.....what should he do? And then he saw it. The guitar around his neck, the special one that the choirboys had made from the church organ, and given to him on his birthday. ("We don't mind going to hell" the chorists had said " as long as you can write more songs about buses and lovely little animals") DIe you fucker screamed evil stu, as his smashed the gift to bits. I love the taste of evil, and I must suck up more!!!!!!! Then he walked straight out of the gig, and into the sea, where he was harpooned and eaten my sailors. That was a good story wasn't it? Ooh! It's 515 now! See you all at the picnic, especially Janey Applecake :-) funkyseb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From debbie.spiers at xxx.ca Fri Apr 30 17:40:34 1999 From: debbie.spiers at xxx.ca (debbie.spiers at xxx.ca) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:40:34 -0400 () Subject: Sinister: glastonbury...anyone? Message-ID: Seeing as us canadians have been in the middle of exams it was impossible to hop over for the Bowlie fest, unfair, i know. And being in North America, where we lack the festival-throwing ability (we're on to Woodstock #3....come on now) I thought i'd indulge myself in at least one UK fest while i'm over there. So I got my ticket to Glastonbury, but alas I have no way to get there and no where to sleep. I'm hoping there are some sinisterites (I know Turk is going) out there with space in their cars and the need for someone to chip in a bit of gas money. I'm happy to sleep under the stars with my teddy, but I'd love to find a group to car-trip with. If anyone is going and can help me or has suggestions, please mail me privatly. Ohh! And Teri and I definitely want to organize a London picnic the week after Glastonbury (June 28 - July 4), as there will be plenty of international guests to grace the London sinisterites' presence. cheers for now deb*s +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Power15755 at xxx.com Fri Apr 30 18:02:58 1999 From: Power15755 at xxx.com (Power15755 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:02:58 EDT Subject: Sinister: I am Murdoch, hear me R!O!C!K! Message-ID: Hello sweeties, I really envy the people on this list who can think of something interesting or funny to write almost every day. But anyway, I'm German, I'm not supposed to be funny or interesting. I leave that to the Brits. FunkySeb, I really enjoyed your story! Stevie P. wrote: >>Is anyone else still stumbling round in a post-Bowlie daze ? I just don't know what to do with myself.<< Yes, I know exactly how you feel. I'm desperately trying to go back to normal but so far I wasn't very successful. And I just can't bring myself to taking that bloody wristband off ... I have 2 questions: One is mainly for the British people: Will there be a TV show about Bowlie? And if so, can someone send me a copy? A tape of B & S' performance would be highly appreciated too and rewarded with lots of money, free sex or whatever takes your fancy. ;-) The other question is to everyone who's English is better then mine: What does "flying low" mean??? Have a nice weekend. Antje +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nickdastoor at xxx.com Fri Apr 30 18:38:51 1999 From: nickdastoor at xxx.com (Nick Dastoor) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:38:51 PDT Subject: Sinister: I am Murdoch, hear me R!O!C!K! Message-ID: <19990430173855.86474.qmail@hotmail.com> >I really envy the people on this list who can think of something >interesting >or funny to write almost every day. But anyway, I'm German, I'm not >supposed >to be funny or interesting. I leave that to the Brits. Bloody hell, I didn't know cultural stereotyping could inflict such deep wounds on a nation's psyche. Crikey. I hope you're all proud of yourselves. My sister went out with a hilarious German once. Unfortunately, his humour seemed to be inextricably linked to wanton destruction of property and gratuituous insulting of my dad. He was funny, but he had to go. Sudden thought - perhaps you were being sardonic. If only you had used Northy's clever ~ then there would be no room for confusion. [Historical Note for newcomers: Northy is a late lamented member of the list who had many wise things to say, amongst them the suggestion that we should laugh at the homeless and use ~ to signify sarcastic overtones. We will not see his like again. Another suddeen thought: what if he's a back and a lurker. Not actually IN The Lurkers, you understand.] >I have 2 questions: >One is mainly for the British people: Will there be a TV show about Bowlie? >And if so, can someone send me a copy? A tape of B & S' performance would >be >highly appreciated too and rewarded with lots of money, free sex or >whatever >takes your fancy. ;-) Ah.. you spotted the cameras. Isn't Duglas out of the BMX Bandits doing a documentary on the band (I think that's what he said in the R1 Bowlie diary that was broadcast on Monday)? Perhaps footage will find its way into there. >The other question is to everyone who's English is better then mine: What >does "flying low" mean??? I'm going to spoil everyone's fun by telling you the real answer. It means not having done the fly on your trousers up. That's a zip/button kind of fly. Not an insect kind of fly. Maybe Straun tried to make amends but caught himself in the zip and that's why he got angry and smashed his guitar. It's a more plausible theory than the the Times reviewer came up with (see below): The Times April 30 1999 Sorry, chums Belle and Sebastian Dublin Venerable indie pop messiahs or execrable anti-rock pariahs? Belle and Sebastian compel and repel in equal measures. But they were among friends at the Olympia, transformed into a thousand-strong church of happily lost souls who believe this Glasgow-based octet to be the apotheosis of the indie aesthetic and, in the afterglow of their successful Bowlie Weekender at Camber Sands, living proof that every underdog does ultimately have its day. But the performance was not so much liturgical as just plain lethargic. Belle and Sebastian have always preferred to maintain a self-effacing anonymity rather than kowtow to the cult of personality. But the fact is that there were eight musicians pottering before us who collectively have the stage presence of a cardboard box. And as the gig limped slowly on, one could palpably feel their self-mythologising mystique drain away, leaving us with what? A bunch of carefully crafted, literate pop songs that can be pleasingly wry and witty but also selfconsciously clever. It's all rather bloodless and, there's no getting away from it, sexless. The telling moment came near the end, when someone shouted a request for the Sex Pistols' Anarchy in the UK. Alive to the inherent criticism in such a barbed remark, Stuart Murdoch (main songwriter and singer) kicked over his mic stand and smashed his electric guitar on the floor of the stage. Brilliant, I thought: an ironic comment on the jaded histrionics of punk rock and an acknowledgement of his band's minuscule rock credentials. But then Murdoch ruined it: he apologised. That's the problem with Belle and Sebastian: their suffocating, strangulating politeness. NICK KELLY 'Alive to the inherent criticism in such a barbed remark' indeed. Nick xxx ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mhintz at xxx.edu Fri Apr 30 19:15:07 1999 From: mhintz at xxx.edu (Matthew Hintz) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:15:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Ebowlie virus Message-ID: I seem to have brought home the Ebowlie virus from the Bowlie Weekender. My stomach and head feel awful. Now, I didn't buy this virus from the merchandise table even though I was particularly tempted. Who wouldn't be? I also brought home with me the Bowlie Hangover, and I am _certain_ that I didn't buy that at the merchandise table. However, if the gorgeous Susannah had tried to sell me those, I am sure I would have bought them. She has a way with words, like when she entered the Queen Vic apparently hooting. Cough. Living and loving Matthew --------------------- Stolen Kisses http://members.tripod.com/stolenkisses stolkisses at aol.com/mphintz at aol.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hynesdj at xxx.ie Fri Apr 30 21:00:50 1999 From: hynesdj at xxx.ie (Declan and Noren Hynes) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 21:00:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Baile Atha Cliath.... Message-ID: <01BE934C.89C8FA40.hynesdj@iol.ie> damien, i was probably stood behind you at said gig... were you the lucky individual who got the setlist? and did you SEE the LOOK isobel gave the bloke who shouted her name? i've not made my mind up about that girl... the band had been in eamon dorans the night before hanging out.. that is without isobel or stuart... my mates had some drinks with them, stevie and the the other kids seemed fine... in fact stevie was asked a few times whether he was the young actor from "the small faces" a comparison i made myself before hearing it... i'm also convinced stuart looks like christopher reeves... i think the cheer after them saying it was nearly their first gig outside the u.k. could be the last one they'll hear for awhile... but WOAH, stuart's voice is sooooooooooooooooo amazing, the live experience is just magic. i also heard tigermilk for the first time on my way home from the gig, a mate jim had it on in his car... it sounds REALLY good and i didn't want us to get to my house, i was annoyed having to get out. i was lingering about waiting for people to come back from the bog when i found myself standing beside sarah.. i was going to ask her to sign IYFS but i didn't want to bother the sweetie... her little vocal bits were lovely during the gig actually, on isobel's song. anyway those are today's incoherent ramblings... slan Finn p.s. get better damien! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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