From johnk at xxx.gr Sat Jul 3 10:46:40 1999 From: johnk at xxx.gr (John Koliopanos) Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 12:46:40 +0300 Subject: Sinister: parlez-vous francais, mr johnk? Message-ID: <377DDC00.A763FD66@flash.gr> Oh well, just some pointless ramblings really out of need to whine in front of other people I guess . . . So it happens that tomorrow is my last school exam (phew!) and it happens to be French actually, which I'm definitely not good at. What's more, I'll have to write a composition in French as well. Anyone got any hints for me? As if that's not enough, I have other exams (so as to enrol at a uni here) more difficult and more important obviously, starting on the 1st of July. And the night before the most difficult of those exams (Ancient Greek) Saint Etienne, definitely one of my favourite bands, are playing at a club here. Out of 365 nights it had to be this one! Tough luck. Such things only happen to me (and to Megan too apparently). Anyway, could some of the people that saw St. E in the US tell what time approximately they were on, so that I might be able to see them after all (now that would be lovely). I'm worried that if I don't go I'll do badly at the exam and then regret not having gone to the gig but if I do go to the gig that I'll fuck it up again and then blame it on St. E. It's a vicious circle. Ian, perhaps you could help me out by threatening Sarah Cracknell's life to force her change the date. What do you say? On a happier note, I'm sooooo looking forward to the Belle and Sebastian video special on Alternative Nation. I've watched most of their videos before but I never thought of taping them, which I'll definitely do on the 29th. It's a miracle that it's not a night before an exam, isn't it? johnk xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnk at xxx.gr Wed Jul 28 12:36:42 1999 From: johnk at xxx.gr (John Koliopanos) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:36:42 +0300 Subject: Sinister: lovely listee coming to london alert! (no, this message does not include self-assertion) / alternative nation Message-ID: <379EEB49.C1D2ED34@flash.gr> erm, well, i thought i'd let the people who are going to the london picnic on sat know that the lovely listee teri from toronto will be there too so go and say hi to her and show her good time (no, that's not what i mean, you perverts!), 'cos she's really nice. just so that you might recognise her go and have a peek at a pic of hers on the "as we are now" photos section. it's entitled "johnkandteri" because i'm in it too, obviously (along with a bunch of other people actually). teri's the one with the lovely smile and the long, straight black hair and black specs. i'm the one with the huge grin and stripey tee, looking like a boffin. oh and other clue for you to recognise teri is that she'll be "the one with the canadian accent", to quote her words. go figure. perhaps trousers has a clue on that? while at it, i guess it's the right time to mention that i am too coming to england in july (21st) for ten days, with two friends. we'll have a flat in london but we're also planning on taking a two-day trip to edinburgh if we get around to sorting out accomodation. fingers crossed. by the way, could anyone let me know if there will be any good (and not toooooooooo pricey please!) plays to see in london at that time? i really wanted to see "plenty" with the gorgeous cate blanchett but that ends on the 10th and besides, it's impossible to find tix. thank you in advance for any help on that. on to more sensible issues (i.e. belle and sebastian-related), i was sooooooo furious this morning when i realised that last night's video special on alternative nation apparently did not apply to mtv europe as well. so all i got was two hours of crappy music for the most part, including that new aphex twin video, which makes me sick every single time it's on telly. it's so disgusting, isnt it? anyway, how was the belle and sebastian special, i ask uk and ireland people. i've seen most of their videos in the past but it would be great to have them all back to back on tape. did they show any gentle waves / looper videos as well? (have they made any?) or any interviews? please give us a full report! okay, off to chill out for a bit now before those wacky exams start tomorrow. tonight is going to be first time this year that i'll sleep before midnight 'cos my dad says i have to adjust my biological rhythms to the exams schedule or something along those lines. something tells me he's right, though. anyhow, please wish me luck! johnk x x ps: rachel, i'm so so sorry (no, i dont have a stutter) that i ruined your story in #sinister yesterday. hope you will forgive me. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jaguar at xxx.gr Thu Jul 1 01:12:22 1999 From: jaguar at xxx.gr (Panos Karafotias) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 03:12:22 +0300 Subject: Sinister: lovely listee coming to london alert! (no, this message does not include self-assertion) / alternative nation In-Reply-To: <379EEB49.C1D2ED34@flash.gr> Message-ID: My fellow greek John , I even taped the god damn show, and wasted two hours in which I could do something constructive.Thank God Alternative nation, played that new Gomez and some Beta Band videos.If it wasn't for them, I could easily break that freaking TV. Anyway, fellows, I just want to request from any noble soul , if he/she could just take the time and make me a copy of the alleged recorded show and send it over here in Greece. I would be very very grateful and I would do anything in return! Other news, finally my vinyl copy of the Gentle Waves arrived in Athens and I spent a whole afternoon listening to Isobel.She's good but something inside me tells me that I am about to get bored of that record in no time.It just isn't B&S ,isn't it? kisses from Athens Panos +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bellequasi at xxx.com Thu Jul 1 02:17:42 1999 From: Bellequasi at xxx.com (Bellequasi at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 21:17:42 EDT Subject: Sinister: weathershow problem part 2 Message-ID: ok, i got the hole to fit , i even adjusted the player for a 45 but the record doesn't lie flat. it floats kind of. this causes it not to play at all. does this sound like fa defective record? sorry for troubling you all again thanks *kristie* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Thu Jul 1 05:30:36 1999 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 00:30:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: oh, my daddy worked for tetra pak Message-ID: At 8:45 AM 6/29/99, Tim Hopkins wrote: >discussion about cartons. Has anyone noticed how the standard issue >tetrapaks which replaced old fashioned milk bottles in the UK during >the course of the 80s are now only ever available in corner shops, and >even then rarely, and have been superceded by a dizzying array of >arrangements for getting milk from your carton...press-in spouts, blah, blah, blah.... this is where i interject with a tidbit from MY CAPITALIST EXISTENCE. my dad worked for tetra pak, in fact that's how he ended up in russia for the first place. you see, they own a penal colony in siberia where many of these cartons that are so popular in the uk and europe are manufactured. most of the inmates are capitalist "spies" who don't realize that communism has fallen because the news travels rather slowly up there. ooooh, the irony! for those who are impressionable, i just made most of that up. well, except for two things, you'll have to guess which two. and peter miller makes a lot of stuff up too. At 5:24 PM 6/29/99, philip hill wrote: >Today's Time Out magazine includes a guide to New York. Under the >cabaret listing is the following: > >"Kiki & Herb at Fez: This drag cabaret act offers a programme of >entertainment that will leave you screeching with laughter. Kiki >plunders everything from Tori Amos and the Wu-Tang Clan to Belle & >Sebastian and Momus in her own drunken, debauched fashion..." yeah, they played a cover of "fox in the snow" at the knitting factory while opening for the magnetic fields about a year ago. how many threads did i just combine into one concise sentence? so that's about it. nothing interesting to report unless you think that sweltering in the summer in new york is terribly exciting. if so, i'll go on for hours. ;) and girls, i think feminism is alive and well on this list. we've got hairy armpit's and baby's ass smooth armpits, but to me, having the pride in yourself to be ableto realize that you're worth fighting for and that you deserve the chance to start off dead even with the rest of the world (despite the fact that it will be denied to most of us one way or the other) is pretty much the point to me. and i think we all have that. xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu who are magnetic fields? http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ updated 4/26/99 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Thu Jul 1 07:08:17 1999 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake E Hamilton) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 02:08:17 -0400 Subject: Sinister: love is wine Message-ID: <00a701bec388$1d5c2820$941574cc@woody> hi fairies, well harbourfest is over with! if anyone didn't know (sheeeeeesh sistas) harbourfest is a mass accumulation of fireworks, small children, and yes of course, snow cones. my snow cone duties are anything but simple--shave ice until it's fine, not coarse, then coat it with a syrupy, sweet strawberry (or any berry for that matter) imitation sauce bit, and then serve it to excited youngsters for exorbitant prices. capitalism, yarr! voyeur and smut creator extraordinaire jygsaw dave wrote about me: I suspect that "Iron Jim": is trying to say that he wants vicious up the bum sex with Isobel. Which i find rather terrifying, and I hope someone at Jeepster will alert Isobel to keep an eye out for a US listee with an eyepatch who dances to recorder solos. alright, so i do dance to recorder solos. yes yes this is true. but up the bum sex? come on, how utterly wretched for poor isobel. i mean, you know what they say about up the bum sex, it's like christmas, tis better to give than receive! bwa ha ha!! ok that's my dirty joke for the day and i apologize if it offended anyone, i really do. isobel is a feather and i wish not to ruffle her. so there, dave! take that and shove it up your own arse. i believe that dave and i are soon to form a band, if i can get him not to join another one in minnesota. ah yes, a completely sinister band, oh how dreadfully twee. on a cheery note, david kitchen has agreed to let me return my ruined stow shirt, yippee!!! oh, the b&s family, how dysfunctional it is.... AND, my website, well, here it is...it's not done at all, nowhere near close, but here's the address http://members.tripod.com/nucleartrout and my picture isn't up yet, but it's surely going to be there soon, so someone, please go regardless. cheers, goodnight, and sorry for the unpleasant jokes, i've had a busy day in the ice. blake xx the nerdy shy eyed pacifist -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- "Fuck!" - Jarvis Cocker +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lohammer at xxx.no Thu Jul 1 07:40:39 1999 From: lohammer at xxx.no (Erlend Hammer) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 08:40:39 +0200 Subject: Sinister: morning thoughts I s'pose Message-ID: <199907010643.IAA12828@online.no> Howdy, Okay, please bear with me, it's 8 a.m. and according to my usual sleeping schedule I should've been a good four hours into dreamland by now, and I'm normally not scheduled to get up in another 6 hours. But I'm sick and couldn't sleep at all so I got up when I heard my parents getting up for work. I think I've got a cold and that's no fun as I'm going to a festival next week and sleeping in tents is a no-no when sick, says mummy. Real life, gave-birth-to-me-mummy, not list-mummy. But at least I'm not at Roskilde which opens today. Did anyone here go to Glastonbury, was it good? What was the Mogwai set like? E-mail me privately if this is not sufficiently this-listy. Anyway, when I got up this morning, a couple of hours ago, I watched this American religious mass-meeting programme that for some reason was on the telly. At first there was a white, ugly business-looking woman singing a gospel tune (sample lyric "Jesus is gonna do a miracle, Jesus is gonna do a miracle, cuz Jesus is a miracleman".) This didn't bother me and I found it amusing, no doubt because of my sleep-depraved state, isn't that how these people recruit new followers, by keeping them up for days and then they're so fucked they'll believe anything? Anyway, then this man in a white suite (what else?) came on stage and starting pushing people around and I felt it was getting a bit disturbing. A girl was brought onto the stage and they talked about how she'd addicted to cocaine, and that she had the scars on her arms to prove it! So that was funny again. But I felt it was time for some of the devils melodies and so I watched MTV for a bit. Okay, I'll ramble about things semi-related to current threads now. Isobel bashers are mean, Isobel is a goddess. When the Gentle Waves album was released I saw a picture of Isobel and, not knowing who she was, I ran around my apartment telling my roommates to have a look "it's the most beautiful girl I have EVER EVER seen!" I said to them, and they all laughed their usual "oh, Erlend and his silly taste in girlies" laugh. When I later showed the picture to this girl that I used to live with she said something along the lines of "who's that farmer's daughter?". Needless to say I have not spoken to any of my so-called friends since and I have in fact been locked up in my room plastering the walls with copies of various Isobel pictures. Oh, someone mentioned the Aphex Twin video, I think it's hilarious and brilliant, as are all of Aphex's videos. Richard James' musical genius far surpasses that of our Stuart. Umm, no flames now, okay? Seriously, though, there's no one quite like the Twin and he writes the best pop songs this side of, err, I don't know, someone else who writes really good pop songs. Morrissey maybe. I mentioned my roommates and I just realised that my friends are actually the smuttiest people in the world. So I should probably come up with some good stories about them to tell you all. One particularly smutty roommate was named KC (Kinky Cunt) by the rest of us, this was after he showed us pictures of himself dressed up in his girlfriend's underwear. Trust me when I say that this is not something you want to see when the pictures are of someone you live with. He also at some point informed us that he doesn't like body hair at all and that he in fact shaves all areas of his body, except his head. I wasn't too happy about knowing that either. His girlfriend by the way is the girl who called Isobel a farmer's daughter in the first paragraph of this post. She, by the way, is the Queen of Smut and I'm thinking about writing a book about her. I could go on + on. Speaking of all this smut I was searching the archives to see if any of my non-music interests had previously been debated and I was shocked that there was not a single mention of the fantastically brilliant Peter Greenaway. So now, if anyone does a search for him in the future, they'll get this. But I suppose Greenaway isn't exactly the sort of film-maker all you twee twee people out there would like. He's kind of Mr. Anti-Twee, I think. Incidentally in his Drowning By Numbers you find the greatest children's character ever and his name is Smut. Is this pure fantasy or would one actually be allowed to name a kid Smut in England? Erlend From Frederic.Meysonnet at xxx.net Thu Jul 1 08:29:44 1999 From: Frederic.Meysonnet at xxx.net (Frederic.Meysonnet at xxx.net) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 09:29:44 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Smalltown Message-ID: Last night, i was listening to "Songs for Drella" from Lou Reed and John Cale. It's "a brief musical look at the life of Andy Warhol". The first song makes me think to "Dirty Dream Number Two". Then i thought a lot of things in this LP and in Andy's life have B&S connections. SMALLTOWN When you're growing up in a small town You say no one famous ever came from here When you're growing up in a small town and you're having a nervous breakdown and you think that you'll never escape it Yourself or the place that you live Where did Picasso commme from There's no Michelangelo coming from Pittsburgh If art is the tip of the iceberg i'me the part sinking below When you're growing up in a small town Bad skin, bad eyes - gay and fatty People look at you funny When you're in a small town My father worked in construction It's not something for wich i am suited oh - what is something for wich you are suited ? Getting out of here I hate being odd in a small town If they stare let them stare in New York City at this pink eyed painting albino I'm not Dali coming from Pittsburgh No adorable lisping Capote My hero - Oh do you think i Could meet him ? I'd camp out at his front door There's only one good thing about a small town There's only one good thing use for a small town There's only one good thing about a small town You know that you want to get out When you're growing up in a small town You know you'll grow down in a small town There's only one good use for a small town You hate it and you know you'll have to leave I thought it might be interesting for people who lives in a small town, even more if they live in Pennsylvania ;-) Another stuf from another song in "Songs for Drella" : "Its a Czechoslovakian custom my mother passed on to me The way to make friends Andy is invite them up for tea" And this, that is famous and interesting for Looper : "The trouble with a classicists he looks at a tree that's all he sees, he paints a tree The trouble with a classicist, he looks at the sky He doesn't ask why, he just paints a sky" fredd-o +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sleeka_sounds at xxx.com Thu Jul 1 10:33:29 1999 From: sleeka_sounds at xxx.com (Sleeka Sounds) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 02:33:29 PDT Subject: Sinister: Chaps, out for inspection! Message-ID: <19990701093330.88974.qmail@hotmail.com> Alright monster mashers, What a lovely day. Hold on, no it's not it's minging. Bastard clouds! Oops, sorry it's nice again now. What the...? See now, apparently (according to Nostradamus) the world is going to end on Sunday, we will be killed by the great king of terror from the sky. Sounds tops, can't wait to see what the king of terror looks like. I'd like to think he's a bit like Brian Blessed. Those in the know say it's gonna be a meteor or something, from the Comet Lee (Murdoch). Bollocks to that. Hey, I wonder what Nostradamus predicted Stephen Pastel will do when confronted with the great king of terror from the sky............. . . wibble . . wibble . . . Stephen Pastel Vs the great King Of Terror from the Sky by Nostradamus ====================================================================== ROUND 1 "SHITE", will be the cry as the sun will be blackened There will be a huge fucking bastard That looks like Brian Blessed ROUND 2 A man with a bowl for a head will posses no rhythm nor tone but his voice will echo and hurt the ears of the huge motherfucker ROUND 3 The bastard shall return to the sky Shaking his fist in his rage Before he disappears behind the sun He will bare his arse to the world Any excuse for a bit of sweary, eh folks? This talk of "up the bum sex" with "isobel" is making me rather fidgety. Cos one thing leads to a another in my head and now I'm receiving a brutal rodgering from a giraffe. Ouch. Pain/pleasure I don't know and I don't care. I don't belieeeeve it! I just looked out the window - the girls were holding hands! THE GIRLS WERE HOLDING HANDS!!!! Don't be a fool, it's 1999. They're probably homosexuals, either that or just experimenting with their sexuality. We've all done it. Now, I've just seen the Dirty Dream Number 2 video. Very nice, one of the best. I can't remember who's who from the list, I know it's been said before but the "Glimpse Index" hasn't updated. So who's who then? Best of luck for surviving Sunday! Yours in Christ, Chris =================================== Visit the Sleeka Sounds Corporation http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~calnd/sleeka/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peter.ramsdale at xxx.com Thu Jul 1 08:35:42 1999 From: peter.ramsdale at xxx.com (Pete Ramsdale) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 08:35:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Shaved Heads, Smiths, and prom queens who don't shave References: Message-ID: <377B1A4E.81B6FD2E@wdr.com> Jygsaw Dave said: One: am I the only Belle and Sebastian fan with a shaved head? I just did this recently, and most people seem to think that I would like PUNK ROCK and kicking minorities in the teeth with steel capped boots. In fact all i want to do is kick Pete Waterman in the teeth with steel capped boots (old grudges die hard) No, you're not. I've currently got a number 3 all over, but about 3 weeks ago it was bare clippers. You ever noticed how people look at you differently when you get on trains? Myopic bastards, the lot of 'em. I really do have no time for people who judge books by covers. Although I did that with "Scepticism Inc." by Bo Fowler, and it was fucking great. A book narrated by a senscient shopping trolley from Chelmsford. Tops. Steel toecaps have never struck me as quite enough to hit Pete Waterman with. It *would* be quite satisfying, but for that ultimate "Fuck you and the mindless dance acts you rode in on" kick, it's got to be one of those huge steel balls suspended from a sixteen-storey-high crane. Now *that* would do the job......:-) Up the Shakers, lol p xx. -- -----------------------------*||*-------------------------------- "Reality never seems to work out quite the way you want it to..." Pete Ramsdale - peter.ramsdale at wdr.com Phone: 0171 568 3836 -----------------------------*||*-------------------------------- This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From popjourno at xxx.nl Thu Jul 1 11:40:29 1999 From: popjourno at xxx.nl (Alex Tobin) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 12:40:29 +0200 Subject: Sinister: a blatant stab at wishful thinking Message-ID: <377B459C.102C66AB@tobin.demon.nl> Well, it's been yonks since I've posted to this beloved and reborn (1000 times over) Sinister list... And I duly apologize to all those kind and loving people that seem to know me, in one form or another. As usual, many changes in one's life seem to change the way you divide up your time. This time - thankfully - all of the changes are for the better. So it is with this cryptic and snobbish message that I greet you with love from these nether lands. I also apologize to those members on the [popjourno] mailing list who have already received this request... The following is geared somewhat to the artistically inclined amongst you (of which I certainly do not count myself). After much hemming and hawing - or whatever one says - I have decided to create a new website yet again. There already is a domain name and a loose concept, but the right ingredients are needed to complete the project. Now, before I even get started on that bit, let me explain that I see myself as a bit of an editor for this thing and not solely as THE contributor, so any input from anyone will be most welcome. It's been a long time coming since I have planned a sort of e-zine. Now, there are plenty of these floating around on the net, and some are good, some not so good. Being the snooty wannabe I am, I would like to create something intelligent, creative, amusing, and lasting. I'm also not saying that I've had my fill of music (indiepop in particular), but sometimes I feel like branching out just a tad more. This new project is aimed to be more visual in approach. Contemporary art, fashion, media, design, film, and so on, and so on... Music will still play a role; however, this role will be limited to an equal amount, on a par with the other elements. The new domain name will be postmodern.co.uk, which gives you an idea of what I mean. Don't go there yet, as it's nowhere near up and running. For this, I am kindly asking those of you inclined towards these areas to please drop me a line at postmodern at bigfoot.com. An example of what I'm aiming for is already at the excellent http://www.tangents.co.uk. Some might put this off as pseudo-intellectual twaddle and bullshit, but damn it! - I want to try it. Areas to cover could be exhibitions, portraits of artists and art movements, sociological observations and contexts, fashion trends and non-trends, the evolution/devolution of new media forms, plus of course many, many links. Written pieces will be longer and in-depth, with much insight and knowledge always a plus... Alright, I'm never going to get a reply on this, but it was worth trying! Thanks for listening to this idealistic tortured European artiste... Alex postmodern at bigfoot.com check out [popjourno], a non-competitive and friendly list devoted to contemporary music, film, art, literature, and travel at http://www.popjourno.com. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Thu Jul 1 12:08:15 1999 From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Michael=20Jones?=) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 04:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Solipsistic wordplay, parts 43-47 incl. Message-ID: <19990701110815.6331.rocketmail@web126.yahoomail.com> Brace yourselves. On the subject of lyrical mis-hearings, I'm forever getting in a bit of a muddle with popular tunes from some of the 'finest' 'classic' 'rock' bands this isle has produced in the 90s... -- Once upon a time, not too long ago, we took a day out in Manchester/We all fall down, there's not enough hours in our day/Excruciatingly tedious and flatulent dullards/Drown us in the nearest canal I need to hear some sounds that recognize the pain in me, yeah/I let the melody shine, let it cleanse my mind, I feel free now/Overblown dross for the hard of thinking/If you caved my skull in with a half-brick no jury in the land would convict you She walks in beauty like the night/Discarding her clothes in the plastic flowers/My voice is like silver foil in a mouth full of fillings/Throttle me with my own diaphanous blouse -- Oh dear, it's not exactly Hal David, is it ? Still, it's what the kids like, so I can't really complain Anyone here associate strong coffee with botty bother ? There is that scene in "Henry Fool" of course, which I find reassuring. Thought I might be the only one with a digestive tract that Goes Liquid after a few shots of espresso. I did enter "cappuccino" and "the shits" into AltaVista, but it crashed my browser. I always used to favour the leaf over the bean until relatively recently - the switch was an integral part of my ongoing sofistycashun, along with my move to Giddy London and, at the behest of Jasper Buckaroo, the zebra-pattern tattoo on my eyelids. Ooooon ! Can we tempt you to England in September for Ali To Model Panties ? Is it insufficiently P!O!P! (I bet that bloody filter is still on... this post is already too scatological) ? I shall do my best to charm you into spending all your money on plane tickets by revealing a new fact I have learnt about your homeland every time I post... David Toop's new book "Exotica" mentions an easy listening album of Latin-Hawaiian music composed by His Majesty King Bhumibol Adulyadej of Thailand. Apparently the monarch used to have private audiences with the likes of Dizzy Gillespie and had a recording studio in his palace. This album was voiced by heartthrob Thanin Intarathep - 'a kind of Thai Cliff Richard'. One track, a bossanova entitled "Face Up To Problems With A Smile", 'suggests that the King was one of those composers incapable of writing cheerful music'. "Far From Worry", replete with 'double-time piano and soaring strings', paints a picture of the King's palatial retreat in paradise. And "Sounds In The Air", if only it was extended by a few hours, would 'lift [the King] out of his melanchol[y] ... and into the vanguard of international minimalism'. I really want this record. Next time - Glenn Danzig writes the Thai Olympic Table Tennis Team song *plus* some compelling rainfall statistics. Mike x. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Jul 1 13:33:32 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 14:33:32 +0200 Subject: Sinister: The Indestructible Township Jive of Preston Message-ID: <01bec3bd$ee854820$964a05c3@itjfvkli> Legend has it that Paul McCartney rustled up "Helter Skelter" in response to someone calling the Beatles puffs, so it can't have been the first hard rock song. I beleive that honour goes to Ug, who beat his hands to bloody stumps thrashing out proto-metal riffs on a lump of grnite with a flint plectrum, also inadvertently inventing axe-torching. Has anyone seen that Ringo Starr caveman film? Pure unadulterated celluloid magic..... The Smiths' "Barbarism Begins at Home" and Chic's "I Want Your Love" are identical except for the woofing. I don't know if this is really relevant to the discussion revolving around The Smiths and eighties excess, but it's a handy faclet to drop into conversation down at the indie night. For extra Morrissey points, pronounce Chic "chick", like Simon Groom on Blue Peter. Those of you wishing to check out Steve Cropper without defiling your indie purity are directed towards Big Star's version of "Femme Fatale" on the album "Sister Lovers". Mister Cropper contributes delicate guitar archipelagoes, and in the background you can just make out the sound of Ug being let loose on the pots and pans. However, it's not very representative of either Cropper or Ug. I thought Genevieve and Sarah's comments about Isobel's resemblance to a cold fish were a welcome antidote to all that stuff about her "darling voice", and not to be taken to heart. Mind you, I wouldn't like to be in their shoes if Isobel sets her old dog who is very much loved on them, or her brolley-wielding grandmother. Unless Genevieve unleashes her heaving breasts. Breasts should be as hard as apples and as dangerous as cannons, according to Nelson Mandela. Well done Rachel Playforth, I'm glad to hear all those essays were worth the effort after all. I don't like to blow my own flugel horn, but I think my own encouragement definitely contributed to your success. So send us a fiver. lots of love, Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Thu Jul 1 13:46:01 1999 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 13:46:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Fight The Power! Glastonbury and stuff Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB695D6A7A@PARK_EX> FIGHT THE POWER For those of you without MTV UK and Ireland a brief precis of *that* Alt Nation Special: Lots of super 8 style wobbling, black and white bits, all yr fave songs (Century of Fakers, Boy with the Arab Strap (from Bowlie), Modern Rock Song, Dirty Dream, Weathershow, Dog on Wheels, Wicked Not to Care, Lazy Line Painter Jane, Ballad of Ray Suzuki (but not nesessarily in that order, and I think I've missed something)). A rather bizzare TWATTYBUS from Bowlie which seemed to have been "panned and scanned" you know like when they put cinemascope films on telly and everybody looks a bit stttrrr--etc--hhhhed, with crowd shots, but I only recognised Dave Moore, Chelmsford, UK briefly glimpsed in the corner of the screen. Also Weathershow and Ray Suzuki (and a Dr Pepper ad in the break!!). Personal highlight: Struan's face in LLPJ when his t-shirt gets sprayed (tee hee). Personal lowlight: NO BLOODY "UP THEIR OWN ARSES" instead two ~very appropriate~ videos to finish the hour off "Fight the Power" by Public Enemy and "Kelly Watched the Stars" by Air. Now I'm not dissing Chuck and Flav, none of my heroes have appeared on no stamps either, but I'm sure they could have dug out something that fitted the mood a little better. GLASTONBURY Glastonbury was great fun as the sun shone and I didn't see The Corrs. I must second Ms Ross' enthusiasm for Whistler who really are very good in an acoustic, swappy instruments (Jew's Harp ahoy!), lovely female vocals kinda way. Other top moments included Younger Younger 28s (Human League for the next Millenium), Billy Bragg (with Ian McLaghan (sp?) on keyboards), Cornelius (just pure fucking genius, beg, borrow or steal to see them live), Mogwai (including people near me asking other rowdy people to shut up during the quiet bits) and the Manics doing Motown Junk and Motorcycle Emptiness (say no more). Also the Hash Cake Fairies in the Stone Circle on Thursday Morning who were really cute, dressed in pink with little wings (and doing a roaring trade). Not so top moments included Gomez noodling on for hours, Mercury Rev noodling on for hours, Travis making it rain, having to walk about two miles to the New Band tent where there was NO BAR!! One Lady Owner making possibly the most boring noise ever and not talking to the two people at Cornelius with Belle & Sebastian badges on. STUFF Re B&S/Smiths thing, lets hope our current heroes dont split up in two albums time and go on to release infinitely inferior material. Re Helter Skelter, although not necessarily the first "hard rock" song (I don't really want to get into that) is almost certainly the first "pop" song with pure *noise* in it, and all the better for it (and probably the best thing macca has ever done). Re Sleater-Kinney, When I saw them at Bowlie, it took me a while to realise they didn't have a bass player (despite a rather bassy sound), I asked the sound man if it was a DAT, but he said he just turned the bottom end up. Do they sound really tinny through shit PAs?? (I'm assuming that if people are from their locale they will have seen them doing shit pub gigs) I think that's enough waffling for now, I'm off to see Hefner tonight. xoxo CarsmileSteve > ---------------------------------------------- > 'Slightly Anal About 80s Pop' > > carsmilesteve at geocities.com > > visit the historic record of Carsmile at http://fast.to/carsmile > > 'Anyone need a singer?' > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnk at xxx.gr Thu Jul 29 14:28:52 1999 From: johnk at xxx.gr (John Koliopanos) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:28:52 +0300 Subject: Sinister: lovely listee coming to london alert! (no, this message does not include self-assertion) / alternative nation References: Message-ID: <37A05713.96A3E4DF@flash.gr> > Other news, finally my vinyl copy of the Gentle Waves arrived in Athens and > I spent a whole afternoon listening to Isobel.She's good but something > inside me tells me that I am about to get bored of that record in no time. Gosh, I've yet to get that record but having thought the single (esp. the a-side) to be wishy-washy, I suppose I'm going to feel pretty much the same way as you for the album, if I ever get around to buying it. I still do love Isobel singing on Belle and Sebastian songs, though. Is she on any of those forthcoming ones? How I wish they'd release the France Gall cover, she does that soooooooo well. By the way the first day of exams was, surpisingly enough, okay and I did quite well actually (or so I reckon). Yeah, as if you lot cared...heh. Love John x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Thu Jul 1 16:36:03 1999 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (katrina house) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 16:36:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Fight The Power! Glastonbury and stuff References: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB695D6A7A@PARK_EX> Message-ID: <377B8AE3.10007633@jeepster.co.uk> hello, > Personal lowlight: NO BLOODY "UP THEIR OWN ARSES" instead two ~very > appropriate~ videos to finish the hour off "Fight the Power" by Public Enemy > and "Kelly Watched the Stars" by Air. Now I'm not dissing Chuck and Flav, > none of my heroes have appeared on no stamps either, but I'm sure they could > have dug out something that fitted the mood a little better. the band actually chose those videos, they have special places in their hearts :) cheers, k. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ po box 14153, london, sw11 4xu, u.k. tel: 0171 924 2324, fax: 0171 924 6161 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From k.watson at xxx.uk Thu Jul 1 16:54:34 1999 From: k.watson at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 16:54:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Fight The Power! Glastonbury and stuff In-Reply-To: <377B8AE3.10007633@jeepster.co.uk> Message-ID: That's nice that they picked the videos following the program. Personally I love the video for Fight the Power, I mean, it looks a bit cheesy and stuff, but it's got a load of energy. I also like the fact that it contrasted with the vids, co-incidentally my pal who taped the thing for me stayed up to watch the P.E. vid and the Air vid and taped them for me too, which was cool, so it can't be all that bad. I like putting things that contrast right next to each other, I also like Public Enemy loads. Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Thu Jul 1 20:02:26 1999 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (katrina house) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 20:02:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Birmingham Tigermilk Club Promo Message-ID: <377BBB42.37902F90@jeepster.co.uk> hello, to all your Birminghamites out there .. IS THERE ANYBODY OUT THERE? shelley's hoping to organise a meet up before the tigermilk promo @ snobs tomorrow (friday 02/07) night ... if any of you kids want to bond before the club, please e-mail her at mailto:shelley.wilkinson at university-b.wmids.nhs.uk and she'll fill you in on the where's and why and how's. somebody send her some some loves, she has a migraine :) cheers, katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ po box 14153, london, sw11 4xu, u.k. tel: 0171 924 2324, fax: 0171 924 6161 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andrea.ware at xxx.com Thu Jul 1 20:51:05 1999 From: andrea.ware at xxx.com (foxinthesnow) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 12:51:05 -0700 Subject: Sinister: sinister:the rondelles ate my heart Message-ID: hey, first off, i want to say kudos to you, you,that belle and sebastian list guy that keeps quoting jarvis cocker...i think that is pretty rockin. on that note, the rondelles are touring the u.s. and they will be here in chicago on the eighth at the empty bottle...anybody else going? well, if you're in chicago, or anywhere else that they'll be playing, i highly suggest you go. you'll cry, its so good. ok, happy day to you all. andrea get your free gURLmAIL at http://www.gURLmAIL.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i.am.sinister at xxx.uk Thu Jul 1 23:59:48 1999 From: i.am.sinister at xxx.uk (Sweetie) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 23:59:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: freeport. Message-ID: <001501bec415$6ca0fe00$1850883e@anne666theasylum> welcome to where time stands still, no one leaves and no one will. i dream the same thing every night, i see my freedom in my sight. no locked doors, no winows barred, no things to make my brain seem scarred. sleep my friend and you will see, your dream is my reality. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ If I wasn't psychotic I would never have found my true self. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Fri Jul 2 01:47:06 1999 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick * Sandcastle Records) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 20:47:06 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Commie B&S propaganda and the end of the world happens just as I get to see Marine Research and Harvey Williams Message-ID: <377C0C0A.DCC94583@ohiou.edu> Hello Funsters, I was thinking to myself that a nice listen of "I Know Where the Summer Goes," would be apt, and as I was doing so, I took note of the cover art once more. What should I notice on the EP but a hammer and sickle-looking flag lying below the fellow who did Postcard. Anyone know the story surrounding that? I must say I'm curious. Am I correct in remembering them saying B&S are socialists? I don't really mind them brandishing a communist flag, at least the communists got the socialist bit right... Anyway, it must be Murphy's Law that the world would end on Sunday. I was looking forward to seeing a nice show, too. My houseguests will be pissed, I can tell you that. Who does that Amadeus fellow think he is, anyway? You know there was a religion based here in the US once upon a time. Seems they thought that the world would end on...eh, well I forget the date, but it was sometime in the 19th century. Well, the day came and all of the members of this religion (I'll be nice and not call it a cult) came out to worship for their last day on Earth...then the day passed and nothing happened. As you might imagine, they don't have quite as many adherents these days. I also recall something about an interesting Utopian society. They decided that none of them would have children, ever. They added to their ranks by converts, rather than having children. Funnily enough, they too aren't around anymore. Wouldn't it be impressive if I could somehow connect that factoid with Belle & Sebastian? Well I can't, so I'll end here... /"\_/"\_/"\ Brian Pennington, a.k.a. Mick McMick; Sandcastle Records \ / bp224996 at ohiou.edu ICQ#5056758 | | Sandcastle Recs Homepage: http://www.frognet.net/~mick/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | -Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Fri Jul 2 06:06:41 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 01:06:41 EDT Subject: Sinister:Ball peen hammers = smut Message-ID: <4c327588.24ada2e1@aol.com> First off let me say that I am totally blown away that people other than blake hamilton read my posts and respond to them. with the nice part out of the way, on to more skinhead sneers Peter "Hermann Goering" ramsdale threatened all non whites by saying:* (in reference to shaved heads) <> Right on, and that's the sort of thing that makes me want to spraypaint a swastika on a water tower. although when my hair was longer people seemed to think i was gay because I was "feminine" in some way. Go figure. I don't think I've changed that much m-m-m-magnetic megan sez: well, except for two things, you'll have to guess which two. and peter miller makes a lot of stuff up too.>> aha! I thought it was a little odd for P Miller's parents to have liked the WHO so much that they name their child after a song.... even if it is the 70S WHO! Although there are loads of kids named Tommy. Most of them are boys, and I guess at least one is good at pinball. And no-one complains about that, so I see that I have negated my own argument. Never Mind I'm disturbed by the recent trend of sinisterites making things up for "fun". Don't you know that lies make baby jesus cry? Rolling Stone reviewed the Gentle waves album and praised isobel's songwriting ability, saying that it wasn't as mean as Stuart's. Pardon? as they say in france.. How is stuart mean? we all know he was a boxer, but I don't see him as the vindictive sort. What say we all complain to Rolling Smut magazine? THey're a bunch of corporate lackeys, and their dirty rag of a journal is full of ads and more ads. I only read it in the bathroom at work because i was bored. Iron Jim Hamilton bellowed to the bosun: i mean, you know what they say about up the bum sex, it's like christmas, tis better to give than receive! bwa ha ha!! ok that's my dirty joke for the day and i apologize if it offended anyone, i really do. isobel is a feather and i wish not to ruffle her. so there, dave! take that and shove it up your own arse>>> U.T.B sex also is like easter, in that chocolate-like surprises may be found in mysterious locations. It's like valentine's day in that it's supposed to be about love but is more of a letdown and a pain, and it's like a birthday in that, even once a year, it's still not fun to have with the family. Unless one is drunk. I'm disturbed and disgusted by the previous paragraph. But not enough to keep from inflicting it on all of you. Sorry. Go to Iron Jim's website. It's good, really it is. Go on! PS. Lesley Jo, who's the picture of the girl seductively sneering in Tigerjammies? I really want to know.... dave * he didn't really. I was making that up, just to be cool +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Fri Jul 2 08:20:16 1999 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 00:20:16 PDT Subject: Sinister: A rose by anyother name would smell just as sweet Message-ID: <19990702072016.19340.qmail@hotmail.com> There are several quintessential moments in a girl's (in this case mine) life: graduating from college, getting married, becoming a mother, and having the right boy smile at you. So, none of these but the latter has happened to me yet. For now, the last enough. On Wednesday, while walking up to class in a hazey daze from not getting enough sleep this random boy who I have never met gave me a rose. No cheesey pickup line attached, just a shy smile as he said, "If you put it in water the other bud will bloom." I was flustered and surprised that I don't even know if I said thank you. Though, it had to be one of the most beautiful gestures that has melted away all of my worries and unhappiness. Later that day, I was waiting at the dmv while my roommate was getting a state id. We were there for over an hour and a half with everyone there completely disgruntled and angry at being there. Being there with all that angst, just put things into perspective for me. Everyone was there was upset and unhappy for something they can't change and that really isn't worth the energy to be sad about. Admist all of that gloom, I was happy. I'm sure I was also very annoying. But I won't focus on that part. I think the key when things get overwhelming is to focus on the small details. Those are my loves. But I will stop before someone here begins to wonder if they're reading 'Chicken Soup for the Listerine's Soul'. I'm leaving in three hours on a roadtrip (one of my favorite things in the world) to visit my best friend who is working in Arizona for the summer. By the time she returns here, I'll have escaped back home in North Carolina. It so hard seeing friends and knowing that theres a good chance it'll be the last time you'll see them. Well, I know that when I return on Tuesday I'll have an overabundance of e-mails from all of you lovely loquacious lads and lasses (how's that for alliteration?) so I just wanted to leave a note of mine before then. Sorry, that it has no B&S content. Maybe I can make up for it by shameless flattery of both the list and the list Mummy, dear honey. Both of which I adore immensely. And honey always reminds me of Winnie the Pooh - which invariably puts me in a wonderous mood. In fact, I'll end my note with a Pooh (Winnie the, that is) inspired quote: "When waking in the morning remember that whether your first thought is 'What's for breakfast?' or 'I wonder what exciting is going to happen today', its the same thing." Well, I'm off like a prom dress (that was dedicated to not so nasty but amazingly amusing you prom girl, hehe). Have a sparkling day, kiddies -- Llew _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TNewth at xxx.com Fri Jul 2 09:17:18 1999 From: TNewth at xxx.com (Newth, Tom) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 09:17:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Make mine a Shrimptini Message-ID: <0743C08C3772D211B8B50008C7A4F3B60298A41B@PON-03> I wanted to share a wonderful moment with you all. Last night waiting hot and sweaty for a tube on Leicester Square underground station, what should I see but a giant Tower Records poster advertising Tigermilk. Who'd have thought it, eh? Quite cheered me up it did. For a moment it was like being in a parallel universe. love spoon (incidently, re the subject line this is acheived by the mixture of six parts vodka, two parts dry vermouth, a dash of Tabasco sauce - or to taste - and a large cooked shrimp. According to my new martini book. Go on - indulge yourself. You know it makes sense) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lyricjunkie at xxx.com Fri Jul 2 12:52:47 1999 From: lyricjunkie at xxx.com (Natasha Rachel) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 04:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: London can you wait Message-ID: <19990702115247.28207.rocketmail@web306.yahoomail.com> Hello everyone. Just a quick note to remind you about the London picnics. I'm told that you can only leave from one of the doorways at Camden Town tube, so we'll meet at the exit one. I'll be the small girl wearing between one and nine upside down badges, depending on how sure I'm feeling tomorrow and the day after of recognising/being recognised by you lot. And I'll be bringing some of the local firewater with me, so if you want to try some, all you have to do is ask. An excited Natasha xx _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ar981611 at xxx.uk Thu Jul 1 21:18:53 1999 From: ar981611 at xxx.uk (Ailsa Ross) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 21:18:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Glasgow picnic Message-ID: <377BCD2D.85AEB534@student.paisley.ac.uk> Due to the crappy weather that often afflicts these parts, expecially when the word "picnic" is mentioned, we have decided to have the meet-up in the pub, dispensing with the need for crawling around bandstands and bonding under small umbrellas. So Uisge Beatha (end bit nearest the furniture shop), Woodlands Road, 3pm, Sunday. If you don't know where it is, firstly you should be ashamed for not coming to the last meet-up and secondly, mail me and I'll tell you. I might have the regulation blue duffel coat on. I'll definitely have a pint of Guinness. Carsmile Steve said: > Personal highlight: Struan's face in LLPJ when his t-shirt gets sprayed > (tee hee). Which made me laugh like a drain too. Equally funny was Chris being sent spinning in a bus stop in the same video. Oh, and Elle, your moment of glory was there this time :) I've since realised where all the band shots in the BBC Choice documentary came from (video for LLPJ). Lots of good "spot all the places/people you recognise" opportunities for long-time West End inhabitees like me. Those not coming this weekend, make sure you do go to Divine at the Art School next Saturday (Tigermilk promo night). But someone else can think of a pub to meet in for that. Then two days later it's Godspeed You Black Emperor, with a Sinister presence of at least three in the audience. Good Lord that was a ridiculously parochial posting. Take heed of what the good man Carsmile says. Whistler are ace and you will probably all love them, or at least like them a bit. Is that a bit generalised?. Can I recommend Camera Obscura again too? Can I remind everyone there are still lots of tickets left for All Tim Henman's Smarties? And you really should go. If you want. No pressure. I want to agree vociferously and passionately with Tim Hopkins and his views on love, hate and innocuousness-as-a-bad-thing, but I also want to go home and watch Friends. So Tim, yes, you are right. As always. I would say some things of my own on the subject but you'd all get bored and I'd miss my half-hour of cheesy American comedy. So best just go away. Ailsa xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dunca_chap at xxx.com Fri Jul 2 16:39:14 1999 From: dunca_chap at xxx.com (Adam Chapman) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 15:39:14 GMT Subject: Sinister: Dover; a marine ostritch... Message-ID: <19990702153915.55690.qmail@hotmail.com> ...or at least, so said charles dickens in the days before pre cast concrete [ in "A Tale of 2 cities" to be exact], but i'm sure thats enough literary allusions for one day. Anyhoo, greetings P!O!P!picnicers! [with apologies to Alan *fluff* Freeman and all non uk listees who may not have a clue what i'm alluding to]. however, is it too late for me to add my tuppenneys worth on the subject of *the Smiffs*? yes, oh well, here goes anyway, i'm goijng to ignore you. I too agree that all inter band comparisons are inherently flawed, though not necessarily inherently wrong as sometimes its the only way to find any kind of handle for the purposes of interpretation, which is, as has been said before all rather subjective, and often unhelpful. But regarding specifically the aforementioned b+s/Smiffs contrast. i don't really think that this is altogether fair, as although both *the Smiths* and b+s touch on the same circumference from time to time they travell[ed], on rather different tangents to this circumference and will thus end up at differing points [this metaphor is quietly dying so i shall bury it here before it creates trouble]. In any case they are two different bands with different approaches and to be quite fair non congruent fan bases, though there is obviously some overlap, as in the bands themselves. Unfortunately, the Smiths, as with some of their contempories attract the kind of dogma and intransigense more generally associated with the likes of o*!"�$s and possibly the Stone Roses, i.e. "This music is great [insert expleitive of choice for emphasis], and anything which isn't produced by band/group/individual X is therefore [insert expleitive/insult of chioce here]". This also goes for anything new or different which is perhaps why Pete Waterman had so much trouble with the Brits. The opposite view [that is kissing the ass of NMEs latest darling], i find equally objectionable, though nothing i say will change the view of either side. VIVA CHOICE. This arguement has rather lost its way, though i feel that Sir Cliff [Richard, not Jones], might well agree. To all those picnicing tomorrow, i'll see you there, and pray for sunshine. now i've got the rant out the way, i feel much better so 'til the morrow GOODBYYYYEEEEEEE!!!!! Adam XXXX p.s. Tigermilk posters have even hit sunny Yeovil, and to whoever asked, you're not alone, i haven't heard it either.... "Because I know that you know, that we know they don't know whats been going on.... " Gruff Rhys, SFA, 'Demons' ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.net Fri Jul 2 19:26:20 1999 From: rebelstrange at xxx.net (Lesley J Miller) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 11:26:20 -0700 Subject: Sinister: they call me a tomboy, but i love it.....cos only a tomboy could stand above it, by simply changin' Message-ID: <000501bec4b8$62e73a20$3e11020a@rebelstrange> hmm...... >Rolling Stone reviewed the Gentle waves album and praised isobel's songwriting ability, saying that it wasn't as mean as Stuart's. come again? i'd agree that's the wrong tack to take, i dont' think stuart is mean at all, his songs all have an exceedingly gentle heart, yet courage enough to tell like it is. they only said she wasn't as mean, cos she is relatively more pink and fluffy. but i must admit, at the risk of annoying any more of the anti-bel contingent, she has a gift for churning out the most un-ironic pop fluff i've heard for a while, and in my book that is a good thing. i'm so sick of irony right now, it's daily that i have the urge to throw myself on a sword harikari style, to make up for my guilty participation in the sub-conscious, culturally saturating cult of irony. i'm probalby being ironic right now, ironically enough. isn't it ironic? *KILL ME NOW* in any case, at least rolling snork said something nice about something nice, but otherwise they are a bunch of buffoons and their rag belongs on the bottom of my birdcage. Like Spin rag. which is only fit for chopping up and using for collages, or getting pinups of Sleater-kinney out of. actualy i got a pinup of Polly jean out of rolling stone, there would be another rare use. i was glad i found something to do with it. Mick ncRick: >I also recall something about an interesting Utopian society. They decided that none of them would have children, ever. They added to their ranks by converts, rather than having children. Funnily enough, they too >aren't around anymore. wouldn't tha tbe the Shakers? they existed somewhere in pennsylvania, or illinois or something. they made lots of quilts and chairs and stuff. they recruited people, but then peopel kept leaving until there was like only one really old lady left in the sect. or something. can anyone validate this? whoa there is an interesting pair of genetic freaks on teh People's court. whoo honey. better start from gene one...... aieee. speaking of which, yesterday i saw a man in a truck with the skinniest head i have ever seen. it was like a toothpick. i dont' know where his brain fit in there. Archel, you flatter me so. better stop it, or my head will inflate even bigger. i appreciate your two cents on teh feminist debate. and agree wholeheartedly. it seems usual.....that breadth of emotion is accepted in men, yet any expression in a woman *may* be construed as defining some cliche or another, or as proof of Hysteria. at least, in some circles. face it, freaks-- you're threatened by the power of the Womb!! nyah, nyah nyah. speaking of the power of the womb, heads will soon roll when the Buxoms get online and ready to par-tay. you will all yelp like little puppies begging for mercy from our screaming girly passion. Oh and Dave: seductively sneering you say? that's puzzling. but i'm assuming it's probably the polaroid i took of myself that you are refering to, as i can't think of any other pictures of girls aside from isobel. or edie, but she isn't sneering. now that i look at it again i'm kind of embarrassed i put it in there. it's kind of dumb. i didn't know it would be seen as seductive, though, but i guess that's not necessarily a bad thing, unless it was an unwanted seduction, which i never wish to put upon anyone. speaking of seduction: plans were made last evening for arty amanda and i to conduct our butch/femme date this saturday night. i'm all in a tizzy, as you could expect from such a femmy girly, trying on all my dresses and getting all twitterpated, and wondering which perfume i should wear, and how i'll do my hair. i shall be carrying my hello kitty purse, and have glittery green hair, and will be (ironically!) shaving myself to femmy perfection. i'm sure there will be photos, look for the scoop on my web sight. any tips on seduction? boys? a little encouragement. i'm going to do some facial exercises for my lips, in case it comes in handy. (hahaaa) (i kill me) Llew: >There are several quintessential moments in a girl's (in this case mine) >life: graduating from college, getting married, becoming a mother, and >having the right boy smile at you. (Come again!!! married motherhood, nice work if you can stomach it.....;)) >So, none of these but the latter has >happened to me yet. For now, the last enough. On Wednesday, while walking up >to class in a hazey daze from not getting enough sleep this random boy who I >have never met gave me a rose. No cheesey pickup line attached, just a shy >smile as he said, "If you put it in water the other bud will bloom." I was flustered and surprised that I don't even know if I said thank you. Though, >it had to be one of the most beautiful gestures that has melted away all of >my worries and unhappiness. that has to be the loveliest thing i have heard for a while. makes me want to put on some gentle waves, it sho do. i wrote a poem (prospective song lyrics) last night when i was sitting out in the nice weather, and drew all around it and slipped it under art girls door. she knows i have a thing for her, so it may be redundant, but it was something i had to do..... romantic things. i think i might have to bring a rose tomorrow night, even though it's not really the femme thing to do. but now i'm all inspired. >But I will stop before someone here >begins to wonder if they're reading 'Chicken Soup for the Listerine's Soul'. i have to say you just stumbled up on a brilliant idea. we should all scour the archives for heartwarming, pithy, and smutty bits and compile them somewhere for easy access and quotability. anyone? a friend of mine was just blasting me the other day saying i hate too many things. so maybe my innocuousness is a reaction, each to her own. i've spent too many years being bitter as fuck and living a smiths song. it's TIME to be fluffy and free. Deal with it! I dance to ABBA. and i love it. lesleyjo, the dyke who shagged me http://www.members.tripod.com/rebelstrange For we can still love the world, who find a famished kitten on the step, and know Recesses for it from the fury of the storm Or warm torn elbow coverts. SAVE MST3K!!!! http://www.mst3kinfo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From justin at xxx.com Fri Jul 2 18:48:34 1999 From: justin at xxx.com (Justin Williams) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 12:48:34 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Re: Gentle Waves review In-Reply-To: <000501bec4b8$62e73a20$3e11020a@rebelstrange> Message-ID: <4.1.19990702124019.0091fb10@delafont.com> At 11:26 AM 7/2/99 -0700, you wrote: >hmm...... >>Rolling Stone reviewed the Gentle waves album and praised isobel's >songwriting ability, saying that it wasn't as mean as Stuart's. > >come again? i'd agree that's the wrong tack to take, i dont' think stuart >is mean at all, his songs all have an exceedingly gentle heart, yet courage >enough to tell like it is. they only said she wasn't as mean, cos she is >relatively more pink and fluffy. but i must admit, at the risk of annoying >any more of the anti-bel contingent, she has a gift for churning out the >most un-ironic pop fluff i've heard for a while, and in my book that is a >good thing. I read that review too, and my interpretation was that they were referring not to the songwriting (which couldn't be further from meanness) necessarily but to their overall countenance. I must say, I have only heard rumors about Mr. Murdoch's personality, and what I have read of the #sinister script when he was on there, and I could be totally wrong but it seems that he does have a bit of a patience problem or lack thereof. I'm sure it's isn't intended seriously but when he says things like "fuck off" and "no, you're not obnoxious, just immature" to listees who are trying to have a conversation with him I thought that was a bit uncalled for. And I also don't know if that past rumor of him smashing the guitar and upsetting Isobel at a show is true or not, but it would seem to denote that he can lose his temper now and then. Anyways, 80% chance I am wrong, but that is what I thought that review was referring to. Of course, as long as he likes little furry animals, it's alright with me =) Justin W Felonius Monk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bug at xxx.uk Fri Jul 2 19:07:36 1999 From: bug at xxx.uk (bUgleT) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 19:07:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: warning: pep talk/rant alert Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990702190736.007cee10@mail.netkonect.co.uk> Erica wrote: >You've been talking a bit about sleater kinney and hairy armpits of late, >which reminded me of something which has been on my mind in the last, say, >six months or so. I've wanted to start a band, but havent found any female >bands, apart from the now gone Kenikie, to influence me. Sleater Kinney are >too abrasive for weak middle class souls like me (although I still like >listening to them, I couldn't attempt to sound like them) Velocette a bit >too wishy washy (apart from 'get yourself together' which is popmagic). >People curse me for saying "I want to be in a band so I can be famous" but >lots of special people wanted fame more than a journey of musical >discovery. I know Belle and Sebastian wanted nothing less than their body >on the cover of the NME, but I want lots of money and matching poodles, and >I'm not ashamed of that. It would be fabulously trashy, and theres a bit of >you that wants it too. yes yes, i completely understand what y're saying as i too have that same desire. on the subject of girl bands..most of them seem to have split up. there was angelica, who released the fabulous 'teenage girl crush' in '97, and there was beaker, the oxford girl punk heroines..the rondelles are good, and they're still together..hey released their debut lp , 'fiction romance fast machines', on lee ranaldo's smells like records [www.smellslike.com]. and there's also moonkat from oxford [see link below]..who are very groovesome. but i agree, there are not that many great girl bands to get excited about - so many more male bands than female ones. i think it's kos a lot of girls just don't have the guts to get up onstage w/ a guitar or whatever and do it. or there's just this general apathy that there's no point kos there are enough bands around already..i don't know what it is, but erica...just start a band - it's not too hard, and you don't need to be totally influenced by others..do what you think sounds kool! yey..go for it. *bug* ___________________________________________ ***the tiny zine on the net*** http://ds.dial.pipex.com/sage/tartrazine ***and the best band in oxford*** http://ds.dial.pipex.com/sage/moonkat +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i.am.sinister at xxx.uk Fri Jul 2 19:55:30 1999 From: i.am.sinister at xxx.uk (Sweetie) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 19:55:30 +0100 Subject: Sinister: deep sleep, pure honesty. Message-ID: <000001bec4bc$9ff3bfc0$4851883e@anne666theasylum> so much to say, such limited methods..... so as they slowly drift into a dream, a faraway land creeps nearer and a sun of infinite beauty and finite mortality rises and falls slowly with the wake and draw of each new and past day. with the rise great empires of eternal discontent fall on their death bed as another day closes around them enveloping them in rich golden fantasy where confusion becomes clarity, only to be awoken. with the fall they see clearly the haze fades and the confoundedness re-appears. and the sweet harmony of the night chorus is heard to sing silence which without a word or a sound drowns out the tedious drone of life on earth. as this happens they see the great dawn become a false symbol of hope. and as they lie defeated yet victorious a cascade of euphoria slides over them. crystal shimmers curl up like serpents around them as pristine diamonds surround and murmer the praises of a thousand tormented souls. 'aurevoir joi, bonjour tristesse' +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From justin at xxx.com Fri Jul 2 21:47:55 1999 From: justin at xxx.com (Justin Williams) Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 15:47:55 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Re: my hastiness Message-ID: <4.1.19990702154318.009e1050@delafont.com> I apologize for my hastily written last post, upon second glance I now realize that it wasn't Stuart Murdoch but Stuart David that had responded so harshly on the chat log. So, now I'm left with not even a 20% chance of being right =) Again, I'm sorry for my laziness in not looking up my facts before I send them. Justin W +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ussher at xxx.ca Fri Jul 2 22:33:26 1999 From: ussher at xxx.ca (allen) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:33:26 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Sinister: suck.com article (b&s content) Message-ID: Being bored here at work on a slow Friday, I decided to give www.suck.com a visit (it's not a porn site for those not in the know). Piqued by the curious title of today's article, "How to Judge a Man by His CD Collection," I decide to give it a read... Interestingly enough, the article has a list of some CDs and what to expect of the man you are dating if you find that particular CD in his collection. Anyway (yes, I'm going somewhere with this), the second CD listed is B&S's very own TBWTAS and the text for it follows (and this is obviously directed to the woman who finds said CD): Belle & Sebastian — The Boy with the Arab Strap Although the prospect of motherhood may appeal to you, you would probably prefer that your child be an infant and not a grown man who acts like one. Should you discover this CD in his collection, you'd be well advised to keep all your maternal instincts in check; otherwise you'll be spending the night coddling, mollifying, and sympathizing instead of cuddling, making out, and screwing. After a few seemingly endless hours of his incessant whining and irrational ranting, you'll wonder whether you shouldn't be charging him $75 an hour for any future dates. If it turns out that he's a professional music critic (and if he owns this CD he almost certainly is), odds are that he's a bed-wetter and probably allergic to sex. What's funny (not ha-ha funny) is this explanation wasn't (ha-ha) funny to me, but the other ones were (ok, not side-splittingly, uproariously, comedy of the summer-no-the-decade-no-the-century-no-the-millenium funny, but ha funny). Discuss. The article can be found here: http://www.suck.com/daily/99/07/02/ Oh, and if anybody else is really bored, read some of the articles on www.theonion.com (now THAT there's some funny shit, man). Ah, ain't the web great? and Happy Canada Day (a day late, I know) to all the canuck listees... Allen (ICQ: #35152981) -- "Long afloat on shipless oceans I did all my best to smile Till your singing eyes and fingers Drew me loving to your isle." -- Song to the Siren, Tim Buckley. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From troyh at xxx.com Sat Jul 3 03:16:34 1999 From: troyh at xxx.com (Troy Hakala (Exchange)) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 19:16:34 -0700 Subject: Sinister: suck.com article (b&s content) Message-ID: There's a reason it's called suck.com. troyhakala sent with Office E-mail on Windows 2000 -----Original Message----- From: allen [mailto:ussher at xxx.ca] Sent: Friday, July 02, 1999 2:33 PM To: sinister at Majordomo.net Subject: Sinister: suck.com article (b&s content) Being bored here at work on a slow Friday, I decided to give www.suck.com a visit (it's not a porn site for those not in the know). Piqued by the curious title of today's article, "How to Judge a Man by His CD Collection," I decide to give it a read... Interestingly enough, the article has a list of some CDs and what to expect of the man you are dating if you find that particular CD in his collection. Anyway (yes, I'm going somewhere with this), the second CD listed is B&S's very own TBWTAS and the text for it follows (and this is obviously directed to the woman who finds said CD): Belle & Sebastian - The Boy with the Arab Strap Although the prospect of motherhood may appeal to you, you would probably prefer that your child be an infant and not a grown man who acts like one. Should you discover this CD in his collection, you'd be well advised to keep all your maternal instincts in check; otherwise you'll be spending the night coddling, mollifying, and sympathizing instead of cuddling, making out, and screwing. After a few seemingly endless hours of his incessant whining and irrational ranting, you'll wonder whether you shouldn't be charging him $75 an hour for any future dates. If it turns out that he's a professional music critic (and if he owns this CD he almost certainly is), odds are that he's a bed-wetter and probably allergic to sex. What's funny (not ha-ha funny) is this explanation wasn't (ha-ha) funny to me, but the other ones were (ok, not side-splittingly, uproariously, comedy of the summer-no-the-decade-no-the-century-no-the-millenium funny, but ha funny). Discuss. The article can be found here: http://www.suck.com/daily/99/07/02/ Oh, and if anybody else is really bored, read some of the articles on www.theonion.com (now THAT there's some funny shit, man). Ah, ain't the web great? and Happy Canada Day (a day late, I know) to all the canuck listees... Allen (ICQ: #35152981) -- "Long afloat on shipless oceans I did all my best to smile Till your singing eyes and fingers Drew me loving to your isle." -- Song to the Siren, Tim Buckley. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MWaggner at xxx.com Sat Jul 3 03:26:22 1999 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 22:26:22 EDT Subject: Sinister: Shaking Quakerism Message-ID: <8eab369c.24aecece@aol.com> In a message dated 99-07-02 13:13:55 EDT, you write: > wouldn't tha tbe the Shakers? they existed somewhere in pennsylvania, or > illinois or something. they made lots of quilts and chairs and stuff. they > recruited people, but then peopel kept leaving until there was like only one > really old lady left in the sect. or something. can anyone validate > thi The Shakers in the US were led by Ann Lee, who was born in Manchester in the 1700's. The sect was originally called the Shaking Quakers, or "The United Society of Believers in Christ's Second Appearing," and they were persecuted in England. Ann moved to the US in the 1770's and started a Shaker colony outside Albany, NY, claiming to be Christ reincarnated. She was beaten and imprisoned here too. The Shakers were communistic and celibate, and did quite well for awhile -- in the early 1800's they had about 20 colonies here. By the 1960's there were only two communities left, one in New Hampshire and one in Maine, and then yes, there was that one last (or maybe two?) woman left living in one of them... very sweet and sad. The Shakers believed in simplicity and utilitarianism... the houses and furnishings they made are beautiful -- really nice simple lines and beautiful wood. Wonderful split wood round boxes. Actually, at least one of the communes has now been turned into an artists' retreat where artists of various sorts go to get away and create -- and there is a new interest in Shaker lifestyle -- probably without the celibacy. Ok, yeah, I've always liked Shakers.... sorry. "tis a gift to be simple...." Celibacy is a different matter altogether, albeit pretty simple. Oh and... about the Rolling Stone review of the Gentle Waves -- I think the reviewer was remembering another review. Someone way back in a review of TBWTAS someplace said that the lyrics to "It Could Have Been a Brilliant Career" were mean, or they showed Stuart was mean... someone with a better memory or better with archives (sorry Honey) might remember where that review was from. --michele +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Sat Jul 3 05:33:48 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 05:33:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: NME.com B&S related article... Message-ID: <002d01bec50d$3f390220$36d9b0c2@default> I found this on NME's website. It's not exactly got a huge bearing on the band, but it might interest someone... THANK YOU BELLE Stuart Murdoch has directed the video for the new V-Twin single 'Thank You Baby'. Filming work was completed yesterday (Thursday) on the video which was widely rumoured to be 'bawdy' and to feature 'girls'. When quizzed on what the video was about V-Twin's manager, Neil Robertson said: "I can't tell you - because I don't know. And I'm in it. It's just various shit. We don't want to make too much of Stuart doing it. It's just that he's the only person we know who'll do it for nothing." "It does feature girls. But the bawdiness is all off camera," he revealed. 'Thank You Baby' is released on August 3rd on vinyl and CD. later, -- Jason Andreas -- The Romantic Scotsman -- -- supporting Jubilee 2000 - Drop The Debt-- -- I'll be there for you, unless you need money -- { jasonandreas at breathemail.net } -- contact me ... oh yes! -- -- Spammers WILL be shot... -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marcusomond at xxx.com Sat Jul 3 12:24:27 1999 From: marcusomond at xxx.com (Marcus Omond) Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 04:24:27 PDT Subject: Sinister: this is just an ancient rock song Message-ID: <19990703112427.95519.qmail@hotmail.com> hi everyone, i've just been given a voice, and so i thought i'd ask a question. with all this discussion about whether 'helter-skelter' was the first... and so on, i was wondering if anyone else thought that 'tomorrow never knows' was the first ever big-beat song? because i thought it sounded quite a lot like stuff on the first chemical brothers album. and talking about 'helter-skelter', i remember when i was in germany in 1994 i heard a radio show with chumbawumba doing the german version of desert island discs, and they described 'helter-skelter' as 'pure punk'. i've just put on my study at stow t-shirt, and in three quarters of an hour i'll be at camden tube looking a bit like oscar wilde with a backpack full of crisps and jasmine tea. come up to me and say hi if you want some. anyway, must rush, love Marcus XXX ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Sat Jul 3 18:19:37 1999 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 18:19:37 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Hip to the Trip Message-ID: Dear you lot, Speaking of being Hip to the Trip, I can't go to any Northern Tigermilking night. I'm previously engaged to go to Strettles and dance to the New Radicals for my friends 18th birthday. Woohoo! That Pete Miller, the crazy young bubble-permed scamp used this: "The Indestructible Township Jive of Preston" as his subject line. This seemed as good a reason as any for me to give you the latest updates on the music capital of the Uk's adventures. The hot news rockin' the North West is that Preston will apparently soon become a city! Which means Preston will have the same status as The City Of London Town! Isn't that good! I've been saying for ages that Preston could whup Londons arse anyway - now the two teams are in the same league, Preston will have a chance to demonstrate its majestic force. Watch out London! Prestons moved up from the Beazer Home Gardens League to Londons Trendy Met Bar GM Conference league. Ha. VINDICATION! Not really. Even Lancaster is a city these days. Heres a teaser. Rumour has is that my teeny village of Warton, and the next door teeny village of Freckleton (which boasts a "Bargin Booze" outlet) are going to merge, to constitute a new "town". Apart from being quite frankly a big load of bollocks, I've had much amusement from wondering if the new "town" will be called "Warkleton". I went to another beauty spot of the North-West this week as well. Yesterday I was driven at BREAKNECK SPEED in a car that had no brakes (the road drops off going round a corner. Driver squeals round the corner at 60mph, nearly avoiding death, and then cheerfully announces "haha, looks like the brakes are gone!".... I proceed to lose all sanity from then onwards.) to the inbred village of Newton. Its up a steep hill and down a steep hill. You pass a huge great big transmitter-ariel thing. I cant' tell you where exactly it is because I only opened my eyes about three times throughout that journey. Anyway! The purpose of this visit was to see my friend Ben wear a glittery dress and a blonde wig in a Youth Club play. How provincial! I think thats the most 'small-village-girl' I've ever got in my LIFE. I then realised the aching cultural and social chasms between me and the inhabitants of po caffs etc. Jasper Buckaroo, whilst jetting back to London from Paris, on mobile phone to Toby Titwank: Jasper Buckaroo: "Shall one see a Popular Band at the Po Caff, Covent Garden, upon this night?" Toby Titwank: "Yes haw haw, what a splendiferous idea! Shall I bring a bottle of bolly and send round the chauffer?" Jasper Buckaroo: "Sorted!" Whereas I go to Plungington on the number 22 bus. Sarah : "We're going to Newton to watch Ben wear a dress." Sarahs friend: "Yes." Sarah: "Your dad will drive us over steep hills at 60mph and then discover the car has no brakes." Sarahs friend: "Correct once more." Sarah: "You'd better have your camera." Sarahs friend: "I do." Sarah and Sarahs friend in unison: "oh dear...." Sarahs head explodes and she makes no more sense for the rest of the night. That last comment also apllies to Lesley-Jo's art school girl situation. Just say, "look right, I'm fed up with you holding out on me, are we going to snog or what", and lunge for it. You could get drunk beforehand. Hey, I'm only a girl on a mail list, I'm not an advice column. Or!! just kidnap Isobel and whisk her away to your house! At least it means she'd be further away from me. Thank the lord. "The Buxoms"? Do I want to know anything more? Does it invole "Womb Power"? Oh get thee to a Helen Reddy record. I have the best of Helen Reddy. I can't listen to it without feeling I should have underarm hair and my legs crossed. bye then, Sarah xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From classyguapo at xxx.com Sat Jul 3 19:09:04 1999 From: classyguapo at xxx.com (Thomas Murphy) Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 11:09:04 PDT Subject: Sinister: i yai-yai-yai-yai love lee remick Message-ID: <19990703180905.53797.qmail@hotmail.com> dear hearts- this being my second post, i hope i don't fall into the proverbial "sophomore slump". i made a new san antonio convert to b&s, very nice guy by the name of eric. the thing is, he's a republican, and the best comparison he could make to their music was... don't laugh, don't get angry... THE CARPENTERS!!! i shall guide this fellow, fear not. sean of houston is now outta the navy, yee haa! at his going away party at the local open-mike night he valiantly attempted to sing "judy and the dream of horses" after many, many pints of cider. i'm not going to say i could've done better, as my stage fright is positively debilitating. it's not like anyone else in the bar knew the song anyway. we chose "judy" because my one guitar savvy friend felt that it was the only one he could do. "i don't know minor chords", "fuck that b to f progression"... oh well, maybe he isn't so guitar savvy. maybe i should take it up instead. at any rate we shall both be up to see looper at the middle east in cambridge (usa) and hope to see some of you folk up there. ta ta! thom i want the world to stop and stare whenever it sees me, but most of all i want to be in david hockney's diary. - david hockney's diary television personalities _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sat Jul 3 23:10:08 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 18:10:08 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Digestive Tract Blocked Message-ID: <199907031810_MC2-7BC2-E409@compuserve.com> Hi, Congratulations to Carsmile Steve on the amazing sharpness of his eyesight: I had completely missed my 15 nanoseconds of fame as an MTV megastar until Sally pointed it out to me. The Struan-striping bit in the LLPJ vid IS great, as is also the cheeky smile as Stuart bounces up and down in his seat singing TOTTYBUS at the Bowlie. We must have more! How about it Katrina, please persuade the powers that be to release the whole gig on video. Would some kind digest receiver please forward me #222, as compuserve stopped halfway through it. Thanks, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SSharp5210 at xxx.com Sun Jul 4 01:45:14 1999 From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 20:45:14 EDT Subject: Sinister: Drinkers:Know your limits. Message-ID: <7042de54.24b0089a@aol.com> Hi. Escaped from the nursery (Now there's a phrase i never thought i would use again....The great nursery breakout of '78,you had to be there) Anyhoo,the main thrust of the mail is an offer.If anyone wants a tape of the B&S prog that's going out on BBC Scotland then send me a mail.I'm limited by the number of VCR's in my house so first come first served. OK.The subject line:I don't know if any of you know Falkirk at all but please when drunk,don't sit on the statue of the Duke of Wellington in newmarket street....I fell off and seriously bruised my buttocks.Just say no to beer. Nighty night. I want to kiss you all.Except not literally because after 1000 folk my lips would be all cracked and not attractive.Obviously. Steve the sunny natured idiot xxxxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bellequasi at xxx.com Sun Jul 4 15:52:53 1999 From: Bellequasi at xxx.com (Bellequasi at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 10:52:53 EDT Subject: Sinister: kyber pass last night Message-ID: just wondering if anyone on the list went to the show last night? also i hefard just last night that the troc b&s show was redone in april. does anyone know if that is correct? *kristie* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sun Jul 4 21:17:49 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 16:17:49 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Loads More Bollox, Crap, Arse, etc. Message-ID: <199907041618_MC2-7BD6-696D@compuserve.com> Hi Sinistaurs, WARNING: Long, ramshackle, going back 2 weeks post, lacking the sparkling topicality of the newsgroup. Michele wrote: Lest anyone think there is no B&S connection to T. Rex... our little batch of B&S admirerers in this area might never have been captured by them had someone in our local cd store not been a T. Rex fan in his youth. When IYFS came into the store, he noted the label name and said, "Ah ha! What is this Jeepster thing? Could they be like T. Rex? Will I be carried back to the days of my platform knee-high boots?" Instead of a trip down some Memory Lane of big-hair and mascara, he was awestruck dumb by our mellow popsters -- and accosted everyone who came through the shop door, forcing them to stand at the counter and have a listen. Exremely hard to believe, but I too had a glam interlude between the hippy & the punk ones. This involved blue stack-heeled boots (& plenty of twisted ankles), purple brushed denim flared jeans, & my mate Glenda making me up with lots of mascara & eye shadow. We both had the same shoulder length hair (hers blonde) & went out as The Glammer Twins (like the Glimmer Twins, geddit?) Lesley J asked: GRRRRR what does a Welsh accent sound like?? what kind of accent did that girl have on AbFab who played the dippy blonde chick? i loved her accent. i forget her name rt now. sorry / i'm interested by different accents. Starry Droolz recommended listening to John Cale: - for the best Welsh accent sample listen to him narrating The Velvet Underground's "The Gift". Sarah also said that The Word was poo & that repeating it was pooer. Despite this they did have some good performances: The Lemonheads' "Mrs Robinson" was great, but I suppose they'll only show L7 beavering away at "Lets Pretend That We're Dead" (or whatever it was called).* Mystery guest Tim "It Gouda Been A Brie-lliant Carré" P!O!Pkins wrote: I haven't the first foggiest idea what reggae is about. Except 'I Shot The Sheriff' by Eric Clapton. So he needs to be told that Chris Blackwell is the Saviour of reggae & is single-handedly responsible for preserving its purity over the last 3 decades. Oon was excited at seeing Star Wars, which I haven't yet, but I did get some new Star Wars Lego for Fathers Day, complete with a little cloaked bloke clutching a light sabre. She then suggested that Chris send a whole piss-drenched house to Trousers: that should solve the Post Office's deficit~ & continued by saying that she always dreamed about Struan in conjunction with bowls of noodles. She finished with a humpkin patch tale.........is it then any wonder that pervs will think her dream is about sex? Missed seeing that hoary old poodle rocker Daltrey's appearance in The Bill the other evening, in favour of stepping out with Sally to see Courtney Love's Hole in Brixton. Hotpants are coming back: the off the wall bass-player's were leather, I think, to match the F.M. boots, & Ms Love's were more like a big pink glittery nappy than anything else. B&S content? she also sported a pair of fairy wings. An experience. Antje made me sad coz here & in the newsgroup she felt ignored. I suppose this is going to happen with 1,000+ people sounding off to each other. I don't think one person can take it all in, let alone respond to every idea or question floated. So I don't think its anything personal, Antje. Tschuss, gluckliche Ferien, & hoffentlich sehen wir Dich hier noch einmal. Reading Sinister posts is now like watching TV for me, & after a while you get to learn what kind of programmes people make. Being a simple soul, I watch the news, (I guess thats you, Katrina) & the comedies/cartOons (I guess thats, er, all those of you that are funny). I tend to skip documentaries, Question Time & the soaps. Recently Katrina sounded down: everybody send her a post to brighten her day at the office & thank her for her hard work keeping us up to speed with all things B&S & with what's happening at Jeepster Towers.# Isobel. I don't know her well enough to comment on her temperature, as I've only seen her 6 times, 5 of which during gigs. I can see that it might be possible for someone to gain the impression that she's a spoilt little madam who likes to be the centre of attention, but perhaps its best not to base a judgement on such limited experience. Perhaps more worrying is her tendency to dress up as a schoolgirl for performances, and to lug over-sized cuddly toys about in the videos (makes her look smaller/younger), given that sensitive teens/twenties are going to fantasise & form crushes on her. Rob Halcrow keeps posting about Hot Tuna, & he'll probably be back, Same Time, Sammy Piazza, Same Channel. Unashamed begging: would anyone like to send me a tape with Lord Anthony on it, as I've never heard it? Its OK, really - I have ordered TWO proper copies of Tigermilk this week, even if they don't have any of those great extra tracks on them. Phew! What a monster post. And, as I'm prehistoric, maybe its all true! (# We already have sign for irony, so I thought that anyone who generally takes the piss should have one for when they actually mean what they say.) David Moore Chelmsford, UK *Completely unnecessary introduction of smuttiness - sorry. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Sun Jul 4 22:25:15 1999 From: johnj at xxx.com (JJ) Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 22:25:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Buenos nachos amigos Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990704222515.007abea0@mail.u-net.com> Hello. I had a great weekend, how about anyone else? I went to Glasgow to generally fanny about. We saw some popgroups in the 13th Note on Friday night, they were awful, basically it sounded like they'd heard a Mogwai album and thought "we can do that". Except they couldn't. And later on I dirty danced with Angela in the other 13th Note whilst Sandy bought us fine Czech beer and something suspicious called Aftershock. Later, that same night, I was sick. If you are passing Fopp records, go and buy the XTC Fossil Fuels double CD singles comp, they're selling it for 7 quid. It's TOP. We went to see the Mummy. It was very bad. Sandy made it funny by laughing terribly in all the wrong places. He's quite amusing for an old git. You wouldn't like him though, he's full of scorn for young people. A fine place to eat in Glasgow : Toast, in the merchant city, it does this all day breakfast thing where it's served like a big sandwich like they used to do on Scooby Doo, you know, layers and layers of toast with things in between. SORTED! Can anyone tell me about the Pernice Brothers? JJ x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daftpunk at xxx.au Mon Jul 5 05:56:28 1999 From: daftpunk at xxx.au (daftpunk at xxx.au) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 21:56:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: You've received a greeting card from Ynot.com. Message-ID: <199907050456.VAA10776@www.ynot.com> Hello lovely listees! Kin Woo has just sent you a Flash Animated E-Card from Ynot.com. Click on the URL below to see how much Kin Woo appreciates you. http://www.ynot.com/cgi-bin/g3_RetrieveCard.cgi?fname=SYSwyHnl_0 (or cut and paste the URL address above into your browser's address/location window.) Environmentally conscious and more fun than flying a kite�Ynot.com, where we put the fun in free greetings. Send your own card for absolutely nothing (that means Free!) by clicking on the link below: http://www.ynot.com Thanks! Ynot.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Mon Jul 5 06:17:07 1999 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake E Hamilton) Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 01:17:07 -0400 Subject: Sinister: higher than high Message-ID: <006601bec6a5$a12df640$e21574cc@woody> i don't do drugs, ok? i don't i swear i swear. well a few weeks ago i believe i mentioned something about how funny it'd be if my entire silly crush on a restaurant hostess would come flying back into my face in the shape of becoming infatuated with a customer, who eats my sandwhiches. well it happened today, and i'd rather not discuss what she looked like, or how she moved, nope, none of that sad, romantic, drivel. haven't i expressed my experiences with that specific feeling enough? well i suppose i shall tell a little, for those inquiring minds. she had glasses! perhaps i should reveal to the list, i of course wear glasses, but they're quite thin, slim, and diabolical. much like me. well girls with glasses kill me, they obliterate me into a thousand pieces--and she had glasses just like mine, silver, rimmed, oh so touching! and a dress red like summer.....hm. wellllllllllllllllllll that whole part where one can't breathe, and my duties as a deli employee flew out the window. i begun to sputter out strange phrases that sounded like accented swahili streetspeak. oh the horrors. i think i'm really really too romantic. how come nobody wants to share such feelings? is it the glasses? love blake xx the nerdy shy eyed pacifist b&s content--isobel makes me all bubbly too, though i wish she had some top spectacles. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- "Fuck!" - Jarvis Cocker +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From isolation at xxx.net Mon Jul 5 06:44:50 1999 From: isolation at xxx.net (.gibby.) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 01:44:50 -0400 Subject: Sinister: lower than low Message-ID: <000a01bec6a9$7fde4b80$81288018@oemcomputer.ne.mediaone.net> At my job as a "barista" at an espresso joint, I too am faced daily with girls who are regulars, who I nickname simply "Mystery girl 1, 2, and 3...." Actually, mystery girl number 3 has never been in my shop, i just saw her once looking at pokemon things at a japanese shop in harvard square whilst a friend and I were getting a photo-sticker made. On the sticker, you can see by my expression that I have just laid eyes on a girl worthy of being a "mystery girl". Quite funny. At any rate... let me get to the point here... the "magic" and fun and excitement of crushes can only end. Once you get to know the person this overwhelming loving feeling disolves into either a comfortable relationship or nothing at all. and comfortable relationships can be so dull and unsatisfying. I hate being comfortable... the magic will fade and everything will become stagnant. The new face becomes an old hat and you can either move on or make the best of it. Im not one for relationships... i'd rather just have lots of crushes. and not share record collections or money. <3love gibby. I +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lost_madflowr at xxx.com Mon Jul 5 07:26:01 1999 From: lost_madflowr at xxx.com (lost madflowr) Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 23:26:01 PDT Subject: Sinister: looper in dc/ny [and maybe philly] Message-ID: <19990705062603.46183.qmail@hotmail.com> hello . is there anyone going to the dc looper show? today i had to explain why i really dig looper to a guy who dislikes them. it was really quite hard to explain.i guess it's because they make me feel like a child who's fresh to the world, which i guess i still am. i'm 20. i cough a lot if someone blows smoke in my direction and i silently curse at them for not being considerate of non-smokers. looper is just pure. they make me feel nice. like radiohead and b&s and hayden. sweet. like you'd want someone to write songs like that with you in mind. today at anne summers' 4th of july partay, i tried to put it into words..the looper love. mm. i dunno. i tried to convince that guy to go... cos he only has the first 7" and hasnt even heard up a tree yet. last night i lost the 3..6..9.. badge [i suppose i lost it at the galaxy hut show] that .j 0n had given me. at first i was like 'shite, i lost one of my badges.' but could not remember... then i saw my extra 3..6..9 badge [cos i'd bought the set but .j 0n was so nice when he gave it to me in nyc i didn't have the heart to tell him i already had the whole set,cos his eyes were so sweet]. oh...the point of this post is to ask if anyone from the dc area is driving up to the philly looper show 'cos i need a ride. if you're driving, please post me back [off sinister] asap. i'll chip in gas money and i'll be nice i swear! i'll do tolls and all sorts of stuff. i've never been to philly and i'd really like to go to this show. i'm going to nyc [i already have my ticket] and i posted on belleandsebastian.co.uk that we should have a picnic the day of looper in nyc. or that weekend after... cos it will be nice. not like today. people look at me like i'm some kind of freak cos i don't drink. and it does not help when the anne summers boys are trying to make me drink. today was alright though. we played on the moon bounce and sweated a lot. the sweat was no fun. i'm chatting with eran on im. oh...i started a tiny b&s list for the dc/va/ md/philly/local etc...area. it's going to be pretty quiet i can almost guarantee..but if you're in the area then you might want to join...go to listbot.com and find list sinisterdc. or i think you can try http://sinisterdc.listbot.com okay.sleepeetime. sleep to mr. scruff. i dunno if anyone wonders but sinisterite Xavier is quite dreamy. as are everyone i met at the dc picnic. another soon? christa, picnic #2 soon? evol, madflowr _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordi-tv at xxx.com Mon Jul 5 07:27:19 1999 From: jordi-tv at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano i Vilar) Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 07:27:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: alone in summer Message-ID: <19990705102719.HM.00000000001Hp49@mixmail.com> Hi, little flies: I just can�t wait until august. It will be the time when i�ll be able to see SALAKO or Darren Hefner having a bath on the beach of Ben ic�ssim. Is there anybody else on this list who is planning to go ? I�ve got the list of the bands pl aying and Cinerama and Jon Spencer have been added recently , so, the festival seems great. If you want further information, go to their ebsite and look at the "cartel confirmado" section. A question for anybody with good heart... and good recorder: does anyone got any tapes of any Gentle Waves gig ? the Barcelona gig could be a good trade. "Like Dylan in the movies" has been chosen the 62th best song of the decade by the spanish magazine Rock de Luxe. The first five are : "Unfinished simpathy", by M.Attack, "Smell s like teen spirit", "Losing my religion", "Being boring" and Tricky�s "Aftermath". Have a nice summer. And remembrer, e- mail me privatley at moy other adress if anyone has some tape of any Gentle Waves gig, jordi at belleandsebastian.org ===================================== ============= Jordiet Sinistre ================================================== Tu E-Mail Gratis en http://www.mixmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peter.ramsdale at xxx.com Mon Jul 5 09:49:30 1999 From: peter.ramsdale at xxx.com (Pete Ramsdale) Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 09:49:30 +0100 Subject: Sinister: More drivel on Books and Covers Message-ID: <3780719A.881D24D8@wdr.com> suck.com opined: Motherhood, infant, grown man, CD collection, maternal instincts, coddling, screwing, incessant whining, $75 an hour, professional music critic, sex, blah, blah, cluck, cluck, wibble, wibble, shite. Or something like that. Anyway, this was the kind of stuff that relatively hairless, "Hermann Goering" me was going on about in his last mail. OK, so before some bright spark has a go, I know this was a slightly piss-takey, vitriolic rant about music that the "author" doesn't like, but the sheer number of people who I have had the incredible misfortune to meet that really harbour this view is simply unbelievable. Two points: 1) So my CD collection contains quite a bit of B&S and other material glibly labelled as "twee". This doesn't automatically make me the stereotypical bobbed-hairdo-sporting, satchel-wearing, Sarah-listening fey popster. And no, I'm not saying that being the aforementioned stereotype (which still does exist, let me assure you) is a bad thing. On the contrary, my dear Watson. And as far as I can remember, I've never wet my bed (although I have, according to my parents, sleepwalked and pissed in the waste-paper basket once.) 2) As well as various twee-pop, my CD collection covers everything from Robbie Williams, through your bog-standard indie fayre, to Fugazi and even Faith No More. For me, picking one of these genres and trying to pigeon-hole me for it is similar to juging a book by about half-a-square-inch of cover. As far as I know, there are no two kinds of music that are mutually exclusive - just because you may like something at one end of the scale, doesn't mean liking the other end is prohibited. Okay, so I have my own form of myopia, but that is directed towards the music itself (Steps, anyone??), not the people who listen to it. I'm not particularly saying that this is OK, and I'm fully prepared to take a slagging for it, but we all have our folly, I guess. It's just that I (and a lot of other people I know) have encountered more than my fair share of people trying to mistakenly extrapolate my personality from what I listen to. Advice for the day: Be you, and never be embarrassed about it. lol p xx. -- -----------------------------*||*-------------------------------- "Reality never seems to work out quite the way you want it to..." Pete Ramsdale - peter.ramsdale at wdr.com Phone: 0171 568 3836 -----------------------------*||*-------------------------------- This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hopkinstim at xxx.com Mon Jul 5 13:22:58 1999 From: hopkinstim at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Tim=20Hopkins?=) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 05:22:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: A turd by any other name will sell a treat Message-ID: <19990705122258.27022.rocketmail@web1004.mail.yahoo.com> Don't read this message if you're of a delicate disposition. Please. No, really. Honestly, I don't want anyone to be offended. Oh go on then, bleedin' read it if you must. But don't blame me. During a brief constitutional in deepest, darkest Chelsea yesterday (bad part of town, you can't move for rugby-playing big beasts wanting to rough you up for not having been in the correct house at Eton or whatever) I passed an attractive little emporium and noticed a sign on the window saying 'Singers stools in stock now!' Well, as I'm sure you all know, a Singer's stool is a seat of adjustable height used by seamsters and seamstresses the world over. I have been after one for a little while, as it would be just the thing for the conservatory this summer. Anyway, I ventured within and asked to inspect the stools. "Whose are you interested in, sir?" asked the helpful Australian shop assistant. "I don't care who it used to belong to, just so long as it is of adjustable height and made from a wood which is not too dark, for if it is too dark then it will not suit the conservatory one little bit." "Sir, I think you misunderstand." She reached below the counter and pulled out a number of wooden plinths. Upon each sat what can only be described as a big, varnished turd. "These are the stools. I can't tell you where we get them from, I'm afraid," she went on "but each comes mounted as you see on a wooden plinth with an engraved plaque and a certificate of authenticity." Well, I have to tell you that after my initial revulsion I was intrigued. "Tell me," said I, "whose craps do you have in stock at the moment?" "Well," said she, "our current range includes a very nice Eric Clapton here, a vintage pre-conversion Bob Dylan, and a presentation box of 'Some Girls'-era Rolling Stones. These Elton Johns are surprisingly popular. People like to buy them for Mother's Day presents. Pink Floyd fans seem to have an insatiable appetite for any old shite turned out by Roger Waters." "Don't you have anyone a bit less...err...boring?" "Not to this standard, sir. But..." She grimaced and pulled a disgusting, liquid-filled carrier bag from under the counter. "This is one of the most solid Shaun Ryders we've ever had, but as you can see, it's still not much use. Oh, you might be interested in this..." >From a cardboard box in the rear of the shop she pulled long-ignored specimen and blew the worst of the cobwebs off, causing a minor dust storm. Beneath the dust, it appeared to be solid silver! "This one's a Morrissey. We used to do a roaring trade in these, couldn't get enough of them, but it seems to have dropped off completely now. It's doubly strange, because these days he has disappeared so far up his own arse that fecal memorabilia is almost impossible to obtain. "We're thinking of diversifying a little, getting a little more creative. We're doing a series of Posh Spice and David Beckhams weaved into a love knot. We're looking at developing a Whistler whistle. The problem is just that they're so difficult to hollow out, you know?" I nodded, although I must confess to you I have no clear idea about the difficulty or otherwise of the jobby hollowing process. "Do you have any Belle and Sebastian?" She looked a bit shocked. "Children and pets are against company policy, sir. We feel they attract the wrong kind of clientele." "No, I mean the popular Scottish beat combo." "Hmmm...I'm not sure. Are they good? What is their diet like?" I shrugged. "Oh they're probably vegetarians. They look like vegetarians. I heard the lead singer was once so disgusted by the thought of eating a plate of sausages that he started thinking his breakfast was talking to him." She scowled. "Vegetarianism, it's so bad for our trade. That Morrissey you have there," gesturing to the greying, dusty lump of human waste I cradled like a baby, "we had to chromium plate it because it was too soft to varnish. The quality of the actual pellet is vastly improved by a poor-quality, fibre-free diet. A 100% burger diet gives just the right consistency and, if treated with care, will retain its natural curvature beautifully. "Oh! Hold on! Belle and Sebastian?" she continued "aren't they that Gentle Waves splinter group?" "Err, well, kind of, I guess." "Now you're talking. Any kind of Gentle Waves excremental ephemera goes like hot cakes. Hot cakes! It's odd, though. About half of the customers who buy Gentle Waves samples bring them straight back, all abusive and swearing that they stink worse than that warm Gomez piss they sell in that caff next door. The others buy them as fast as we can source them. Say they're using them for air freshener. Say they make their room smell of the glorious waft of honeysuckle on a spring morning. Can't understand it myself. They're just grunties like anyone else's. They do buff up nicely, to be fair." I made my excuses and left. If I was going to buy P!O!P! dumps, I wasn't going to do it in this depressing, antiseptic environment. No! I was off post-haste to indie scumland where I could buy the real thing, pure and unvarnished. Where the person selling me the cack would be doing it for the love not for the profit, because they live and breathe pop pooh, to the point of dressing in it. And I had to re-think the decor in the conservatory. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Mon Jul 5 13:45:14 1999 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgirl) Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 05:45:14 PDT Subject: Sinister: picnic london22nd JULY!!! Message-ID: <19990705124514.24069.qmail@hotmail.com> so this is what's up so far! on the 22nd of july a thursday were having a picnic.. yepp the lovely belle fans that is.. it's me becka and 4 other swedes and who ever wants to coem along.. the loaction is not set yet..but everything si pointing towards Keniston garen..hmm shall we pic a smaller park? let em know if this is a silly idea or if you're up to it.. hugs becka Http://travel.to/blondie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kissingdom at xxx.net Mon Jul 5 15:18:42 1999 From: kissingdom at xxx.net (Tony) Date: 5 Jul 99 15:18:42 BST Subject: Sinister: Lets talk B&S Message-ID: <19990705141842.29135.qmail@nwcst315.netaddress.usa.net> Met someone at Kandinsky exhibition. They asked if I was going to the Matador birthday celebrations. I said probably to Friday and Sunday They said they thought that Saturdays special guest are going to be: BELLE & SEBASTIAN because B&S are on Matador in the states. Is it too good to be true ? ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MWaggner at xxx.com Mon Jul 5 15:18:44 1999 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 10:18:44 EDT Subject: Sinister: Loads More Bollox, Crap, Arse, etc. Message-ID: David Moore sent quite the huge pile of stuff: > & the punk ones. This involved blue stack-heeled boots (& plenty of twisted > ankles), purple brushed denim flared jeans, & my mate Glenda making me up > with lots of mascara & eye shadow. Oh oh oh, Mr MOORE! Have you any photos? Send them along RIGHT NOW to the sinisterine gallery... Enquiring Minds Want to Know. Well, I suspected you were hiding something under that natty suit and tie in London... as we all are, David :) In the attic I have a box of... oh nevermind :) Wouldn't it be nice to see some photos of Tim P!O!Pkins back... oh, 8 or 10 or 12 years? I can't imagine.... Now, I can see Keith as a wee boy in a ruffly edwardian shirt and hip-hugging bell-bottoms, windmilling his air guitar and diving into his little plastic wading pool which he's filled with gelatin sugar... the family's broken television set there next to it on the lawn. But Tim? Would it be him done up in his dreadlocks and little rompers with the red,green,black and yellow Heile Selassie portrait woven in, tending his little garden of ganja plants? Perhaps his parents' home movies, with his mum saying, "And this is our little mon, Tim, eating a cheese sandwich.... No mon-nie -- don't cry?" > some new Star Wars Lego for Fathers Day, complete with a little cloaked > bloke clutching a light sabre. I've never seen a Star Wars film all the way through... but I DID get a light sabre with a gyroscope in the handle... you push the button and the sabre part glows... the whole thing makes a sort of revving / whirring noise and it sort of moves on its own when you swing it... now that I think, it's kind of like a state of the art sci-fi sex toy for Amazons... did they have them in the films? in favour of stepping out with Sally to see Courtney > Love's Hole in Brixton. Hotpants are coming back: the off the wall > bass-player's were leather, I think, to match the F.M. boots, & Ms Love's > were more like a big pink glittery nappy than anything else. B&S content? > she also sported a pair of fairy wings. An experience. I went to see Hole ... oh, about 4 or 5 years ago, under duress... and I must say, Courtney was brilliant for what she was. She took the stage in a ratty thrift store dress that looked like she'd been doing things you'd rather not know about in, slung her guitar low on her pelvis, hiked up the dress and put her foot up on the monitor, showing the crowd of testosterone driven teenaged boys her panties... and then she played a hard-driving set that drove them wild. She finished by diving into the crowd of lads... lotta guts, that woman. At first I thought, "how ridiculous, or insane" but then I realized she was doing EXACTLY what she meant to do, and she was in complete control of her persona at the time. Lotta balls, that Courtney, and more power to her, whether one likes the music or not. Sometimes it's great to just entertain / be entertained. (Shut up, Hopkins, I believe you've lost some credibility -- we all KNOW you bought the Paul Kantner memorial stool, the one preserved in the lava lamp. It was posted to alt.MethinksYouDothProtestTooMuch) (In that box in the attic... one pair of suede hotpants, and one pair of crocheted ones...down at the bottom, under the mirror dresses....) > > Isobel. I don't know her well enough to comment on her temperature, as I've > only seen her 6 times, 5 of which during gigs. I can see that it might be > possible for someone to gain the impression that she's a spoilt little > madam who likes to be the centre of attention, but perhaps its best not to > base a judgement on such limited experience. Have to agree here... I've seen 6 gigs as well (would have been 7 if not for that fateful Philly thing) and began by thinking she was shy then moved on to thinking she's just pouty and rather self-centered and perhaps working on an "image." Nothing wrong with that, if you like the image, but I've been tempted to act the mom and say, "Wipe that pout off your face young lady, before it gets stuck like that. Then you'll be sorry." Apparently she's said she thinks Americans hate her -- but it's a big country and I don't think everyone does -- and she didn't look any happier on stage on her home turf, or closer to it. But, she might be perfectly nice and sweet in the real world, with her friends and her trees. Warm even. I saw her dressed like a little cowgirl once... it was slightly more endearing than the kittycat ears :) Last night I saw Marine Research... they were wonderful. And I did think, partway through, that Amelia was the "real" thing and Miss Isobel could take some lessons. I did. But again, who can tell from gigs, eh? Am I the only one (I usually am...) but does Harvey Williams, just how he looks when he's sitting or standing there, put anyone else in mind of Stuart M? Sorta. Oh, nevermind. Miss Starry said, a few days back, that she wouldn't be a very good advice columnist... I disagree, and think everyone should send her their problems and get a dose of her "tough love" advice :) Her mix of rude words and exotic cocktail recipes should straighten out even the saddest and most forlorn amonst the thousands. Not to mention her Japanese minimalist trash bin home decor hints. Oh, and I was wrong awhile back, about the Hefner single -- it wasn't a "new" single, it was their first single, that Stuart plays organ on. But maybe I've already been corrected. God, couldn't I be doing something more productive with a day off? "Yes," you say. So, I'm going to set off some fireworks to celebrate our independence from the mother country. A day late, but what the hey. --michele +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vicky.parkinson at xxx.net Mon Jul 5 16:29:12 1999 From: vicky.parkinson at xxx.net (vicky.parkinson at xxx.net) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 15:29:12 GMT Subject: Sinister: picnic observations Message-ID: <3780c138.2ce7.0@cwcom.net> this was composed on sat night, by Alix and myself after the first London picnic, but due to our inebriated state we were unsuccessful in our attempt to send it. (I had an excuse as I had to numb the pain from my ankle with whisky macs) anyway, our pathetic attempt: > dear sinister > > hello, rather drunken report of the picnic on primrose hill, it was a picnic, we > ate pringles, as one has to, and whinged about having to walk bloody miles just to > use the loo, and played football, and miss vicky hurt her ankle and she still limping. > if i was a doctor id do something, but i'm not. after all the football fun we retired > to a pub and got drunker. what fun. now, being complete saddoes, we're writing to > you. though, if we were more sober this certainly wouldnt have occurred and were > going to regret it. but i'm sure we'll be able to laugh merily at the miriad spelling > errors that ive managed to produdfe. ive been correcting a lot too, so you dont knoe > the halkf of it. we've been listeing to a PROPEr tigermilk. be jealous, else i kill > you. anyway, enough now. we're going to eat bacon for breakfats with mayyonnaise > abd maustard. not right now though, thats just plain silly. we can wait until morning, > oh yeh. > > byebye > love > vicky and alix I have to remind you that I had nothing to do with the typing, as I was lying in agony next to Alix, and you *really* should have seen the typos she corrected. Anyway, Sunday was good fun, although people were rather more sedate and quieter, wonder why.... and we got chucked out of the Spread Eagle, the traditional haunt for after the alcohol has run out on Primrose Hill, cos we didn't all have ID, but I got asked for it, and I'm really old, so I made a point of loudly saying, wow, how cool being asked for ID at 24, and he scrutinised my ID, as if I was lying about my age. But it was lovely to meet lots and lots of new faces, and to anyone that I promised a tape to but didn't deliver, send me an email and I'll sort out popping them in the post An happy belated birthday to Sam, who got us discount on our food and then was going to go hungry cos he didn't have enough money to himself some, silly sausage. And I got time off work cos my ankle's so bad, on the first day I get paid sick leave, after 6 months employment, which sounds a bit dodgy I know, but I will proudly show them the bruise when I return to work, whenever :) Tigermilking on Friday 13th August, upstairs at the Garage. Don't forget Vic xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sleeka_sounds at xxx.com Mon Jul 5 15:36:18 1999 From: sleeka_sounds at xxx.com (Sleeka Sounds) Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 07:36:18 PDT Subject: Sinister: Bowlie set on Radio 1 tonight Message-ID: <19990705143619.75230.qmail@hotmail.com> A little birdy tells me that the Belle and Sebastian at Bowlie set is being broadcast on Radio 1 tonight (Monday) at 10.15pm. I dunno if anyone else said. I used to work in a stool factory. It was a bit smelly Chris =================================== Visit the Sleeka Sounds Corporation http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~calnd/sleeka/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Mon Jul 5 15:59:55 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 10:59:55 EDT Subject: Sinister: more filth from POPkins, plus other stuff Message-ID: Is it just me, or have the posts all gotten much better recently? Excluding my own, of course. I just go on about dumb shite. That said, here's another long missive, with tales of drunkeness and one sentence about Belle and Sebastian. But loads about coughing blood. Cheers to Mister P!O!(o)P!kins for the letter about feces. I liked it loads. Perhaps loads is the wrong phrase to use.. truly the gentle waves are a divisive group. they have created diametrically opposed viewpoints in people who were regarded as sane. Much like a religion.... I've noticed that people here seem to talk about stuart murdoch more than God. AND I have just as many list crush votes as old stu.* From this we can infer that my ego will be swelling mightily. * last time i checked. and no fair running off and voting for stu just to spoil my day Follicle-Challenged Ramsdale also wrote an excellent letter, as usual, and mentioned an interesting point. ARE there any kinds of music that are mutually exclusive? I don't think so...I've got Public Enemy and Belle and Sebastian. and I listened to Black Uhuru and the Braveheart soundtrack the other day. I can't be bothered to actually quote anyone, so I'll just make incorrect assumptions based on my memories of their letters. Let's see.. Iron Jim Hamilton was going on about a new crush. i say good for him. A crush is one of the better forms of drug, as I told him earlier in a separate post that is none of your business. I haven't had a good crush in forever. Like Java slingin' gibby said "The new face becomes an old hat and you can either move on or make the best of it" Which is an awesome line. I plan to use it in the future. <> Did anyone else get roaring drunk to celebrate the fourth of july? (sorry to offend UK listees. I wasn't responsible for the revolt, honestly i wasn't) I was mourning for a friend of mine who is going into the army..I vaguely recall chugging a blenderful of vodka collins after drinking a small loch of beer. My friend told me i hit on several girls, menaced a few people with a steel baton, and then went comatose in an armchair. It may be all lies, but this morning I vomited a good deal . and I've coughed up blood a few times. Has this happened to anyone else before? is it hazardous? Please let me know, as I'm too broke to go to the doctor. Having firmly cemented my reputation as a dangerous drunk with poor personal habits, I will now throw in some BS content. I mean B&S. I was wearing a study at stowe shirt. there. One more thing. Has anyone ever woken up at home and thought "now how did I get here?" My uncaring mates lugged me into my car to sleep it off and I somehow drove away, despite an inability to see or walk. I made the 20 minute drive home and got into bed. I am very very frightened by this experience. Some part of my brain said "drive" when i was in my car... so can I be part of the paula cullen booze exposition? expedition? expulsion? a very dizzy and ill dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Mon Jul 5 16:48:47 1999 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 16:48:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Open mouth, insert foot (slight return) Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB695D6A80@PARK_EX> I said > Personal lowlight: NO BLOODY "UP THEIR OWN ARSES" instead two ~very > appropriate~ videos to finish the hour off "Fight the Power" by Public Enemy > and "Kelly Watched the Stars" by Air. Now I'm not dissing Chuck and Flav, > none of my heroes have appeared on no stamps either, but I'm sure they could > have dug out something that fitted the mood a little better. to which Katrina said: >the band actually chose those videos, they have special places in their >hearts :) and Keith said: >That's nice that they picked the videos following the program. >Personally I love the video for Fight the Power, I mean, it looks a bit >cheesy and stuff, but it's got a load of energy. I also like the fact that >it contrasted with the vids, co-incidentally my pal who taped the thing for >me stayed up to watch the P.E. vid and the Air vid and taped them for me >too, which was cool, so it can't be all that bad. I like putting things that >contrast right next to each other, I also like Public Enemy loads. Although I may be digging myself deeper into the hole I am already in, let me try to explain myself a little more clearly. Basically I tuned into MTV to see **an hour** of Belle & Sebastian stuff, including the film (which I didn't know wasn't going to be on cos I was at Glastonbury when the mail came through about it). I didn't expect 50 minutes and then a couple of seemingly random vids. As it happens I also like PE (not physical education), in fact in my youth I had a T-Shirt with "Enemy" on the front and a big target thing on the back, and it was a nice jolt from one to the other. But we can see these vids at other times, couldn't they have put another bit of Bowlie in, he asks rhetorically, as though he was on "Points of View". My video of the show does contain the whole hour so if anyone wants a copy please mail privately, although they might have to wait a bit cos I'm useless at sending things out (and I'm not sure how to copy videos) (I also have the Bowlie doc off Radio 1 if anyone hasn't heard it who wants to). In other news Hefner were good the other night, but Billy Mahonie who supported were possibly IMHO better if you like instrumentally-post-rocky-yet still with tunes-y kinda stuff, which I didn't but now I do. Aren't we all glad that the people who interpret Nostradamus were wrong and the world didn't end yesterday, I know I am. A scary man in a Cradle of Filth T-shirt asked me to be in his band on Saturday night and I was almost too scared to say no, I just kind of ummed and ahhed until he went away. Ooh hurray another Tigermilking in August. I here by declare that by hook or by crook I SHALL MAKE IT to this one, and you can quote me on that. xoxo CarsmileSteve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Mon Jul 5 17:55:27 1999 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 12:55:27 EDT Subject: Sinister: lower than low Message-ID: <6b78f26d.24b23d7f@aol.com> In a message dated 7/5/99 1:48:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, isolation at mediaone.net writes: << At any rate... let me get to the point here... the "magic" and fun and excitement of crushes can only end. Once you get to know the person this overwhelming loving feeling disolves into either a comfortable relationship or nothing at all. and comfortable relationships can be so dull and unsatisfying. I hate being comfortable... the magic will fade and everything will become stagnant. The new face becomes an old hat and you can either move on or make the best of it. >> I have to agree Gibby, although I try to convince myself to be more optimistic about the whole affair. It's pretty evident that almost always the thought of someone is better than the actual person because people have this insane tendency to endow their "mystery girls/guys" with attributes that they can never really live up to. Eventually it becomes a let down when you find out that the girl in your English class really doesn't stay up late at night reading E.M Forster, or that in all actuality Dream Guy" has never heard of the Wannadies and would probably think they suck if he had. Its sort of a vicious circle in which people set themselves up for failure by expecting the most perfect thing in existance where a normal human being would do. On the other hand though, there is something nice about this whole lopsided transaction in that it exists at all. The fact that people love the idea of romance and affection enough to keep dreaming of people they've never met seems to be a very uplifiting turn of events. Eventually we all find someone who either meets our extremely high demands or we finally learn not to place any, and things work out. But the fact that in the face of such depression and letdowns this world continually belts you upside the head with, people still have the internal urge to seek out beauty and perfection is a pretty romantic idea in and of itself. I'll admit it is terribly dissapointing to stay up late at night dreaming of finally talking to the beautiful girl/guy three rows up in Biology only to find they're much less than what you expected, but the next day things don't seem to bad...and then you notice the girl behing the counter at the Donut Shack and its another two weeks of fragmented sleep. Oh well. "The Great Gatsby" deals with alot of similar ideas this one, which is probably why its probably the most comforting book I've ever read. Old Sport... Anyway, thats anough analysis before breakfast...later Steve C. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mart at xxx.uk Mon Jul 5 18:51:46 1999 From: mart at xxx.uk (Martin Horsfield) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 18:51:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: pernice brothers Message-ID: JJ asked about the Pernice Brothers... Well, they're ex-members of The Scud Mountain Boys from, erm, somewhere in the mid-West, I forget where. Anyway, their album 'Overcome By Happiness' was a surprise treat last year, sounding like a gentler, wearier Teenage Fanclub. There's lots of strings, harmonies and brass on there - give it a try. Excitingly enough, I won my copy on the much-missed Keith Cameron show on XFM. Speaking of radio, any South African sinisterines (there must be some) can hear yours truly live on South African radio this Thursday night for reasons that are far too conovoluted to go into. Hey, I've got the week off. Wonder if my copy of 'Tigermilk' will arrive then I can spend all day listening to it. Martin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From isolation at xxx.net Mon Jul 5 18:57:57 1999 From: isolation at xxx.net (.gibby.) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 13:57:57 -0400 Subject: Sinister: lower than low Message-ID: <003201bec70f$ea147a40$81288018@oemcomputer.ne.mediaone.net> You're dead on there... I have this reoccuring dream about a girl that im sure i've met before (but not quite) , and it's very vivid... and when i wake from it i have this feeling in my stomach, this really hardcore loving feeling that I have NEVER felt with another person.. (well maybe one).. so I know Im capable of it. If I met a person that made me feel like that. wow. (Is this pathetic... im in love with my imagination) I like the way you describe getting over someone, realizing they're not what you had hoped.. the fragmented sleep hahah... i know it too well. The first date or get-together with the new person is so good... awkward and innocent, discovering each other a little bit... mystery girls and boys are much better. a mystery solved is no fun to read. :) <3gibby. ps: right now im trying to figure out a way to get out of work. this is so frustrating. i hate calling in, but i just cant bring myself to work today... >I have to agree Gibby, although I try to convince myself to be more >optimistic about the whole affair. It's pretty evident that almost always >the thought of someone is better than the actual person because people have >this insane tendency to endow their "mystery girls/guys" with attributes that >they can never really live up to. Eventually it becomes a let down when you >find out that the girl in your English class really doesn't stay up late at >night reading E.M Forster, or that in all actuality Dream Guy" has never >heard of the Wannadies and would probably think they suck if he had. Its >sort of a vicious circle in which people set themselves up for failure by >expecting the most perfect thing in existance where a normal human being >would do. >On the other hand though, there is something nice about this whole lopsided >transaction in that it exists at all. The fact that people love the idea of >romance and affection enough to keep dreaming of people they've never met >seems to be a very uplifiting turn of events. Eventually we all find someone >who either meets our extremely high demands or we finally learn not to place >any, and things work out. But the fact that in the face of such depression >and letdowns this world continually belts you upside the head with, people >still have the internal urge to seek out beauty and perfection is a pretty >romantic idea in and of itself. I'll admit it is terribly dissapointing to >stay up late at night dreaming of finally talking to the beautiful girl/guy >three rows up in Biology only to find they're much less than what you >expected, but the next day things don't seem to bad...and then you notice the >girl behing the counter at the Donut Shack and its another two weeks of >fragmented sleep. Oh well. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From J.M.Taylor at xxx.uk Mon Jul 5 19:27:35 1999 From: J.M.Taylor at xxx.uk (Jim Taylor) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 19:27:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: dangerous picnics, random gig, & bowlie 2. Message-ID: hello sinister types (and advanced apologies for some/all of this being of limited interest to....well lots of bods.....anyway away with such deprecating and on with my 2nd post this year.....) big stylee shouts out to all london picniccers i met / didn't really meet / accidentally kicked whilst playing footie.....and no it wasn't me (or anyone?) that got miss vicky, but i can most certainly vouch for worthiness of F'd up ankle to merit a day off work, and cunningness of said ankle in its attempt to camouflage itself by turning the same blue colour as v's toenail varnish. err yeah. anyway. as mentioned to various piccerniccers, a band i like / now know & do mailing list for - Slot Jockey - play at Water Rats, Greys Inn Road, Kings X (London) on Wednesday (7/7/99). I introduced Gareth of SJ to a few Sinister people at Bowlie who also seemed vaguely interested (not B&S related musically they're i guess not light years from pavement-y kind of stuff....strong songs i think etc etc & some of band *are* B&S fans...) Gareth is also a lovely bod and a studio engineer/producer who apparently is very good to work with - he redid the Beta Band Total Eclipse of the heart track with them in the studio, but then they got permission so guess that was a bit of a waste of time. but i don't suppose he needs me harping on about him. and er yeah neither do you. sorry. [so hopefully not really a random plug] they're the middle band (9.30pm) with Miss Mend headlining, Gertrude on before. Slot Jockey also headlined a trip to / event in Prague i organised in March, along with DJ Downfall and assorted others (the latter is currently touring as his alter ego drumming for Marine Research in the US until 21st July as no doubt you've probably been informed) errr which kind of brings me to apologize for the truth of my mantra at pic-nics that i never get time to read the list much (and so rarely know what is going on properly in sinister land....) i'm doing better but limited net access after/at work does make things tricky.... The Prague thing was amazing fun and may or may not happen again depending on my stamina/stupidity at taking on things like that, and amount of help i get doing it. I stupidly didn't mention it on the list for fear of abusing the medium, (or more reasonably inviting any of you lot along for what was in the event, fantastic fun) , but if it did happen again i'd love to rope in the sinister community into getting involved.......more on that to follow hopefully. Looks like the almost tournament winning sinister 5-a-side team may be reuniting in a pretty full way for All Tomorrow's Parties.......thanks to Martin & Vince, Damon & i are now definitely coming assuming we can get time off work, so now we just have to weedle our way in again. i maintain i'm better out of goal than in, but i suppose somebodys got to do it so i'll buy some gloves that fit anyway. and if anybody ever hears of the bowlie goalie who lost/lent me his knackered pair (clue, big smelly hands) i still have them. erk well i think thats quite enough. So see y'all soon / @ ATPs / in the next life. jim P.S, That Tim Hopkins lookalike i saw at Bowlie was spotted in the Pub after the Al Green gig last week - even has the same encyclopaedic knowledge of Dub which proved a bonding tool after said being almost offended a friend of mine (another prague performer (Dub DJ)) by announcing there were a hundred southern?/soul singers better than Otis Redding....all turned out well in the end. Perhaps if this lookylikey is spotted by anyone else he could be courted for another footie supersub appearance at ATPs??? jim at city.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tzuckerman at xxx.edu Mon Jul 5 19:35:19 1999 From: tzuckerman at xxx.edu (The Trainspotter) Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 14:35:19 -0400 Subject: no B&S /Re: Sinister: lower than low Message-ID: <3780FAE7.9D1DC772@hampshire.edu> hmm. harvard sq., gibby, sir miller? so, if i just sorta got back together with a bf from 5 years ago, and he lives real far away, and stuff... and last nite and ex-bf from longer than that and I had a slumber. do I have to tell the other one. 'cause i would, but what protocol is there for going to glasto with a bloke you used to live with 5 years ago and sort of are still seeing but not really 'cause he's 3500 miles away but have made plans in the next two months, and he's chucked the other girls out of his tent, and prior told me about them anyway. and his theater company is getting a winnebgo or something and his director already invited me to come on board when the company goes to do el festival performances next round. but his ex-gf after me went round to have a i'm upset with you visit the other day, and he didn't say anything, so I don't think anything happened... but. osk. and he and another friend had a go at one another for the boy not being nice enought o me, and the other being told to mind his own. and if yer in london and go see de la guarda 'cause if it does real well he get more money and then can come here sooner. ok, quasi b&s content. i met these boys who work at the local bookshop the other day and they're on the list, and they're goin to looper too. are we planning a meet up? and when are the record bags coming in? oh, and did I tell you all about popstar personals? we're gunna have a personals site for pop kids. sorta like the back of select on-line. plus, my computer just got fixed, as in, they took everything inside of it out and put everything new in - sorta defeats the purpose me thinks. -teri, girl with the f. perry dress p.s. emily emily, sigh. this girl's done it again haven't I? osk, baby branson crying. he's learnt to open very tightly closed doors. very bad boy. but he sends love to edward. http://come.to/teri "The day didn't go too well. Too many chocolates and cigarettes, I kept thinking of you and almost walking into lampposts." Pulp +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From guile at xxx.br Mon Jul 5 20:04:26 1999 From: guile at xxx.br (Guilherme Barrella) Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 16:04:26 -0300 Subject: Sinister: The Saddest Song Message-ID: <378101B4.F251A31B@telnet.com.br> The music is sadder now... In a sinister note on today's newspaper, I found out about the death of Mark Sandman, one of the most creative musicians that I ever heard, along with his band Morphine. He had a heart attack on stage, dying few hours later, in the ambulance. This happened in Rome, the day before yesterday, right after midnight. And now, when we brazilians could finally see them performing alive in our country, in this year's Free Jazz Festival. Well... it looks like even fate wants to mess up with our provincial dreams. I'm sorry if this sound selfish of me but it's the way I feel. The music is sadder now... This is the saddest song. Guilherme Barrella (Gui) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carllafong at xxx.net Mon Jul 5 20:53:43 1999 From: carllafong at xxx.net (John Mahoney) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:53:43 -0500 Subject: Sinister: radio 1 bowlie Message-ID: <000d01bec720$170161c0$8a6785ce@ELNcarllafong> Hi, I am lowly John M. from Indy and I here by humbly request the assistance of any UK inhabitor. i read on the NME about the bowlie broadcast tonight on Radio 1, and I was wondering if someone could send me a copy? I have a few tapes to trade if anyones interestedf (no B&S, but others) This would be very nice if someone has recorded it, for I'm afraid the chance of anything like this EVER happening on US radio are about as good as a donkey's chances of being hired as an Empire State Building elevator attendant. Thank you very much JM (please email me at carllafong at earthlink.net) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Mon Jul 5 22:15:44 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 17:15:44 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Bag O' Shite Message-ID: <199907051715_MC2-7BEA-B6CF@compuserve.com> Hi All, YES! I knew there was a reason we were nagging him into posting again! Can I be the first to write Tim P!O!Okins, and while I'm at it, can I get, uuuuuuuugh P!L!O!Pkins and, uuuuuuuuuuuugh P!O!O!Pkins out of my system, too? Bye, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From punka at xxx.uk Mon Jul 5 22:56:39 1999 From: punka at xxx.uk (John Kerr) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 22:56:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Juvenile scene detective Message-ID: <000c01bec731$431dbd60$8a9493c3@GI.NET> nothing to say really, just thought that was a very good topic JFK. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ThisSffrng at xxx.com Mon Jul 5 23:37:40 1999 From: ThisSffrng at xxx.com (ThisSffrng at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 18:37:40 EDT Subject: Sinister: looper in southern calif. Message-ID: <9a14fb1c.24b28db4@aol.com> i must say.. The looper performance yesterday at "This Ain't No Picnic", was splendid! Stuard and Wee Karn playing songs like, Burning flies, Treehouse, Up a Tree again, .. and a song I had'nt heard yet called , Who's afraid of Y2K.. Afterwards, Stuart and Karn we're happily signing autographs, and talking to their fans.. Tonight they play again at the Troubadour in Hollywood.. I'll be looking forward to seeing them again.. Cheers all. Carlos xoxox +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Tue Jul 6 00:37:41 1999 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 19:37:41 EDT Subject: Sinister: Radio Wonderful Message-ID: So how cackola was the Bowlie broadcast? "Edited highlights", my buttocks. Oh dear. 'The Kids' really ain't alright tonight. ... Stephen. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ian at xxx.com Tue Jul 6 02:39:04 1999 From: ian at xxx.com (ian connelly) Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 18:39:04 -0700 Subject: Sinister: suck.com article (b&s content) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <199907060138.SAA02471@wired.com> At 07:16 PM 7/2/99 -0700, Troy Hakala (Exchange) wrote: >There's a reason it's called suck.com. as an 'employee' of said site, i'd have to say that's the first time we've ever seen that line employed in public or arsewhere. run! don't walk! to the FunnyRetort copyright office RIGHT NOW and secure your patent before it's too late. as for the offending piece...well, it was penned by DetroitRockCity artiste Mark Dancey, who's been responsible for some great hilarity over the years in the pages of the extremely-infrequently-published zine Motorbooty, and recently inked a lovely little story about the Insane Clown Posse that cluttered the pages of s.p.i.n and generated 'threats' against the person of mr. dancey from irate Clowns. onward slowly to my point: mark also had something to do with the excreble band Big Chief, so as far as i'm concerned his opinion/'taste' isn't worth too much. don't lose any sleep or get your tousle in a tizzy; he's not worth it. ian c | suck.com marketing boy a lonely american without a bowlie live tape or mtv video miaomiao etc. (yay! pedro the lion's _it's hard to find a friend_ ) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bferneyhough at xxx.uk Tue Jul 6 08:47:05 1999 From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (Ben Ferneyhough) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 08:47:05 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Radio 1 Bowlie. Message-ID: <199907060747.IAA00749@brookes.ac.uk> Hello all, could someone please put me out of my misery and tell me that the first track from last night was "Seeing other poeple". I had to entrust my brother to tape it for me, and I fear he did a shit job. Hopefully yours, Ben. __ _-==-=_,-. /--`' \_ at -@.--=\\_/`< ____ /= | \_| Please let it be right.... / `\ _/=== \___/ \___/ //\./=/~\====\ \ // / | ===: | ._/_,__|_ ==: __ \/ \\ \\`--| / \\ | \\:| /==:-\ \__/``\____/ | |--|==: \ \ ===\ :==:`-' _> \ ===\ /==/ /==\ | ===\__/--/ <=== \ / ====\ \\/ _`-- \/ === \/--' /______/_______/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordi-tv at xxx.com Tue Jul 6 07:06:38 1999 From: jordi-tv at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano i Vilar) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 07:06:38 +0100 Subject: Sinister: "Factory" article Message-ID: <19990706100638.HM.00000000001IBCg@mixmail.com> Hi, little flies: Seems that there is somebody who can �t trust his brother, because the first song of the Bowlie set was "Slow Graffitti". I�m sure that there is a kind soul who is goin g to tape this show for me. The Barcelon a gig seems a good deal for a trade. The latest issue of the spanish musical magazine "Factory" features a cool article about all the Jeepster world. It came out yesterday, and there are good reviews from anything related with our fell ows. Except the fact that the journalist thinks that Mr.Murdoch has bad education for not giving any interview. Boll ocks. He knew it from the start. However, he does a fine work, and is suspicious of being another lad who has fell into the charms of Isobel, even though her in terview only lasts for a bit more than a quarter of page. But interesting, because we�re able to know that Isobel likes the catalan gen ius that is mr. Pascal Comelade, one of the most original and creative musicians that exists in the old Europe. I don�t have any of their records, but the catalan telly broadcast a gig from him a year ago and it was one of the most amazing things i�ve ever seen. Collonut. The bits about B&S are fine, even though it�s more from the same. Chris attends the interview, and says that they l ove "Tigermilk", don�t think that "..sin ister" has the appropiate sound, and that it was hard to make "The boy...". Oh, one question to Elle Zober: the article features the picture that appeared at the latest article from Select, and now it�s credited to Elle, when at Select it was credited to Mick Hutson. Who did that picture ? i�m just curious, as I�m curious to know if her and Ronnie Black have join ed the staff from Factory, as it�s credited at the magazine. Well, you know my other adress, I think. Bye, little flies ================================ ================== Jordiet Sinistre ================================================== Tu E-Mail Gratis en http://www.mixmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SSharp5210 at xxx.com Tue Jul 6 11:29:56 1999 From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 06:29:56 EDT Subject: Sinister: Gibbering basically. Message-ID: <4bc4518a.24b334a4@aol.com> Hi popetts. The offer to tape the B&S docu (Friday night,BBC 2 Scotland 11-15pm,Fact-fans) is officially dead now.I really didn't expect to get avalanched by Email from the four corners of the Earth as i was. More a case of "Steve:Know your limits" non? On a more cheery note the bruises from the Stella Artois/Statue-climbing incident are coming along nicely.I can sit down now.....Yay? I now head out to Firkins to get drunk and probably make an arse of myself all over again.Kids of a hedonistic culture eh? Wasn't like this in my day. Steve the sunny natured fool xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Tue Jul 6 11:29:15 1999 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 10:29:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Colesalaw and Tupperware Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990706102915.006d6878@ampsys.co.uk> Hello, I thought I'd say how I was enjoying reading the present discussion about crushes and the like. The "mystery girl"'s who you admire from afar for me are like daydreams which are very nice but never really ring true. It's not until you speak to a "crush" that the goosebumps tingle (much like when listening to LLPJ live at Bowlie on the radio yesterday, thanks to the Sleeka'd ones post I caught the end of it). As you start chatting you get a glimpse of something more than the way they look. Then you have a taste of a beauty inside as well as outside. That's the sort of crush that for me makes everything else seem unimportant. And if they were to be carrying around a roughed up copy of one of your favourite books and said they were reading it again because they loved it so much or they mentioned one of your favourite songs in passing I'd be a jibbering wreck for aeons. This isn't to say the next time you see them they won't lean over with breath smelling of coleslaw and talk about their passion for tupperware for hours but it would have been good while it lasted. Anyway, I'll stop here before I dye my hair pink and splatter my face with powder puff and become the new Barbara Cartland. Well I could have carried on and really written a load of old shit like our own Mr Ploppy-kins. Celebrity turds eh? Hasn't that already been done on Blankety Blank with the wacky turd always in the middle of the bottom row next to a Lorraine Chase type turd? Anyway, I'd also like to say hello to everyone at the London picnics this weekend they were a lot of fun. Hopefully I did enough to impress Jim and Trousers that I am worthy of a place in the Sinister footy team for All Tomorrow's Parties. I am presently available on a free transfer from the seemingly unpopular but ultimately successful Camera Obscura side. Thanks those there for forgiving my traitorous if glorious past. Also if anyone wants to meet up for the "random gig" by some band somewhere in London on Wednesday as mentioned in Jim's post yesterday you can mail me as I should be going too. Too much already, Te ra, Martin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rizop at xxx.gr Tue Jul 6 12:03:57 1999 From: rizop at xxx.gr (Rizopoulos Nikos) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 14:03:57 +0300 (EET DST) Subject: Sinister: cracknell, mosquitoes and my first post Message-ID: hi everyone, at last my first post( for those who were waiting for it = noone ). i actually managed to see st etienne live( yeahhhhh ). they were playing last thursday at a club in thessaloniki ( greece ). it was great... the crowd dancing during the whole gig and beautiful sarah moving gracefully on the stage... fantastic having seen sarah only on photos and vids, i was a bit suprised when she entered the stage... photos and tapes can't capture true beauty, and i believe that all of you share the same opinion( at least the ones who've seen st etienne live ). sarah was annoyed by the biting mosquitoes( don't they have any sense?( mosquitoes i mean ). there must be a rule for all low-life creatures " DON'T annoy the singer while he/she is singing" ) and some b&s( looper ) content: i finally got the looper album. i haven't listened it much yet, but i liked "ballad of ray suzuki" and "up a tree again"( or sth like that ). because this is my first post i should tell you how i got into b&s. the first song i heard was "dog on wheels". then i managed to get IYFS and that was it. need to say more? TBWTAS came only as a confirmation to all i had heard before...eagerly waiting for tigermilk to come. nickos p.s: this was my first post so please be nice ( i know that it was pretty boring but you don't have to say it out loud ). +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jeremy.Simon at xxx.com Tue Jul 6 12:36:22 1999 From: Jeremy.Simon at xxx.com (Jeremy.Simon at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 12:36:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: What have I done? Message-ID: <802567A6.003F25FD.00@gbemea05.emea.jwt.com> Aaaaagh. I went to see Get Carter at the cinema last night and completely missed the Radio 1 Bowlie extravaganza. Are there any UK listees who could do me a copy? I would more than happily make a splendid tape from my exquisite record collection in return. I have no B&S stuff that you don't already have, but plenty of fine music to make you smile, to make you cry, and to make you kind of smile shyly with a wee tear in your eye. Lynard Skynard it is, then. Not much else to say at the moment (sighs of relief all round). I also managed to miss the MTV programme. Not a great couple of weeks, on the whole. Those Swedish girls (names escape me) are planning a picnic on 22nd July - my birthday! How did you know? I am also planning a birthday-type picnic in Greenwich Park on Saturday 24th July, so if anyone would like to come to that as well, it would be great. I'll be the one with balloons, lots of fantastic presents from my many, many friends, and a very drunk Spoon in tow. So please, sweet kind UK listees, mail me privately if you have a spare tape of the Bowlie show. Yours utterly indebted in advance, Jez PS For what it's worth I hate crushes. They leave you thinking all sorts of ridiculous thoughts that have no place in the mind of a sensible young man. And they always end in tears... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Tue Jul 6 13:17:14 1999 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 13:17:14 +0100 () Subject: Sinister: no faecal matter whatsoever Message-ID: the train of thought now at platform 3 is the delayed sinister express from archel. anyone not intending to travel on this service should leave now. i had a mystery boy once. except he wasn't really that much of a mystery, because i knew his name and was on speaking terms with him. i also knew he wrote very good poetry and liked belle and sebastian, which was enough information to allow me to dreamily fantasise about the great conversations we could have if i ever managed to get beyond the 'hello' stage. (although much can be communicated in a 'hello'. not in this case however.) i eventually asked him if i could tape tigermilk off him sometime, which could have been the start of something beautiful, but then i didn't see him for a while and when i did i already had a copy from another source. i still think he is lovely, and as my boyfriend only tolerates b&s (though he does own TBWTAS), and likes o***s, i occasionally entertain wistful, unworthy thoughts. is that evil? oh god, now he's going to be on the list and it'll be all embarrassing. speaking of evil, i went to see 'cruel intentions' the other day, which is a truly dreadful film. the (admittedly gorgeous) main character, played by ryan philippe (one 'l', two 'p's?), is called sebastian, but they pronounce it 'sebasjun', which i have to say grated on me. is that the norm in the US? 'belle and sebasjun' just sounds ugly to me, no offence meant to any americans. have you noticed how b&s have suddenly become a kind of media currency? one of those lazy tactics that music journalists tend to use. first there was the 'good music is good music whether it's made by [random pop group whom i forget] or belle and sebastian' thing, and the other day i read 'blah blah as uncomfortable as a belle and sebastian fan at a def leppard gig'. bloody cheek, taking our names in vain. i for one, LOVE def leppard. well, actually that's not true, but the principle is. (as illustrated by pete ramsdale, and other listees, passim.) whilst straying unexpectedly on topic, i might as well say that i don't think the carpenters comparison is entirely misguided, actually. if you listen to b&s just at that point when you've maybe heard them a bit too much recently and you're not paying that much attention, that is. sarah mentioned helen reddy, and when you consider that i have heard my mother sing 'i am woman, hear me roarrrrrrr', drunkenly, loudly, publicly and out of tunely, it's a miracle that i am still broadly feminist in outlook. it was almost enough to make me think longingly of ironing my husband's shirts in a quiet suburb where not shaving is a crime akin to infanticide, and wearing trousers makes you a radical feminist lesbian. send you a fiver, mr miller? i may be an extravagantly gifted and intelligent graduate, but i'm not running my own charity. yet. i'll get back to you once i get a job, however, because i cannot deny that most of the credit for my degree does indeed go to you. (how do those sarcasm things go again?) (oh yes, ~~~~~~~~~~~) should i go to trash on monday? i was going to make it part of my boyfriend's birthday treat, but we are now going out (to the theatah, dahling) in londinium on tuesday instead, so a) i've got no-one to go with and b) i can't very easily get to london two nights in a row. i could sleep in a doorway i suppose, but then i'd only get into the whole prostitution thing again, and i kind of put that behind me the first time i heard LLPJ... i'm going to go and look for a (legal) job now. no harm can come to me when i'm in your company, archel xxx ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth do something pretty while you can don't be afraid rap101 at york.ac.uk skating a pirouette on ice is cool http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alan.singfield at xxx.com Tue Jul 6 13:52:58 1999 From: alan.singfield at xxx.com (Alan Singfield) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 13:52:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Swap you Kevin Keegan for Ian Rush... Message-ID: <6357CBA4ECC4D211A67C00805FD787D7065CB9@shuban.isoftplc.com> Hello chaps and chapesses, Thanks to the two of you who entered my LLPJ Karaoke Video Contest. I'm so glad someone entered; there was a horrible gap of a day when I thought "my god why did i post that; they must think i'm a right ninny". And just when I had got over the insecurity, I read Robin Stout's post and had to stifle my chuckles (since I was at my desk). Robin, if you come to A!T!P! I will have to present you with your prize of 3 dozen eggs in a suitably grand ceremony. I have taped last night's Radio 1 bowlie thingie. No !the! !kids! !are! !not! !alright! GITS! AND the tape turned over during LLPJ. DOUBLEGITS! (as far as the thread about lowercase letters goes, well I will never give up the shift key unless I find a way of typing the exclamation mark without it) Anyway I am willing to swap a tape of this for a tape of the BBC Scotland B&S "rockumentary" or anything else thats good. email me privately please. Spanners. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.cullen at xxx.com Tue Jul 6 15:46:58 1999 From: p.cullen at xxx.com (Paula Cullen) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:46:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: oh dear, 'fraid this is quite boring.... Message-ID: <01BEC7C6.C8FE17A0.p.cullen@music-control.com> greetings pop pickers, with all this london picnic gossip being bandied about, i thought i'd take five minutes out of my hectic work schedule to spill the beans on the brighton, ahem, so - called "picnic" which took place the weekend before last. there were five of us present; me, richard healey and marcus omond from this list, sian from the jeepster list and my boyf, from the "advanced state of tardiness and laziness" list. probably. anyway, me and the boyf were 3 hours late (due to his "condition") so by the time WE got there the poor dears were half cut. we visited a number of hostelries before plumping for a nice, quiet pub where we could chat amongst ourselves. at no stage in the proceedings did we shout at and heckle other customers. oh no. and richard definetely DID NOT fall off the chair 3 times. the barmaid professed that she too, liked belle and sebastian. but i think she was just too afraid to disagree with us ;) the high point for me was passing the "urban records" olde recorde shoppe (yes, the one made famous by the video for 'phats & smalls' "turn around") and giving a bloody good rendition of the song outside, to the horror of richard and brendan. bizarrely enough, i was the most sober kid there (honest, guv'nor) till next time, paula cullen booze explosion booooze!!!! yeeeaaahh!!! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlearsonist at xxx.com Tue Jul 6 17:25:20 1999 From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 09:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: "where's new england in my life?" Message-ID: <19990706162520.3632.rocketmail@web121.yahoomail.com> dearest listerines -- i have awakened from a drunken fog only to find myself... back at the office. grrr. at least it's tuesday morning and not monday... i spent my 4th-of-july weekend in lovely boston, which i hadn't visited since our 7th grade class trip. mostly i lolled around my best friend's UNairconditioned apartment in brighton, but we also managed to get ourselves to a britpop party at some place called The Upstairs Room, above a sports bar! my two friends, who live in boston and had access to their own closets, were tres mod, but alas! i was stuck in my darkdenim flares and my study at stow shirt... hey, i figured, b&s are british! and pop! right? right? anyway... the music started to deteriorate into motown or something, but the highlight was definitely dancing to morrissey. i thought of you lot! and now my stow shirt is disgustingly sweaty and smoky and dirty, and i may well have spilled some of my martini on it, too... but i am reluctant to let my mum throw it in with all the other laundry, after that horror story ... was it blake? who told of his mum ruining his shirt? shudder to think it, eh? my friends (in boston) and i decided, while wandering through the commons/park area, that american holidays, like 4th-of-july and thanksgiving, tend to highlight all the things about us that are embarrassing, as a country. what do we do on the 4th? cook immense amounts of food and be disgustinly slothful and hot all day. what about thanksgiving? cook immense amounts of food and be disgustingly slothful and watch an inferior sport on t.v. all day.... ewww. fireworks are pretty, though, especially from a city rooftop when you have had far too many pina coladas and clove cigarettes! oh, archel mentioned Cruel Intentions and the american pronunciation of "sebastian" as "sebasjun"... um, yes, over here we say it like that. i wasn't aware that the british way was to pronounce all the syllables -- se-bas-ti-an. i thought stuart was trying to rhyme it, or just being cute... nope, this side of the ocean it's "bellen sebasjun". unless someone is putting on airs, or maybe after listening to the songs so much the "sebas-ti-an" comes naturally... aaghhh! i've gone on too, too long! i need a cigarette! but i work on the 9th floor and "stepping out" for a break is more like an ordeal... oh, one more thing: is honey alright? i remember a mention of illness, and i'm a mite concerned... take care, all. xoxo, marie === "i wish i could live on air and music" - hot water music ********************************************************** "I was a proper snob in college, as only a future lifetime English major can be" - b. glass (j.d.s.) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Tue Jul 6 18:22:12 1999 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MS1996) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 18:22:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: How much shit can I talk? Let's find out... Message-ID: <37823B44.9E3BDF20@cs.strath.ac.uk> Gibby said: > > You're dead on there... I have this reoccuring dream about a girl that > im sure i've met before (but not quite) , and it's very vivid... and when i > wake from it i have this feeling in my stomach, this really hardcore loving > feeling that I have NEVER felt with another person.. (well maybe one).. so I > know Im capable of it. If I met a person that made me feel like that. wow. > (Is this pathetic... im in love with my imagination) Well if you're pathetic then I am too (yes, I know you already know that). I have had this kind of dream a couple of times and woken up with that feeling in the pit of my stomach, and for a second thought "wahey, I'm in love and everything's grand!" before realising that I am in fact, er, not. However, I also had a dream where I was fighting Batman. He chased me through my house and out into the garden, where I chucked smoke bombs at him while running round the whirlygig. I also had a dream once about a giant onion that lived in a lake, but that's another story. Oh, and Jim said: > i maintain i'm better out of goal than in, but i suppose > somebodys got to do it For everyone who didn't see Jim's goalkeeping performance at Bowlie, especially the penalty save and the "ye shall not pass me" display in the final, well it was quite majestic. So maybe if we all ask him nicely he'll do it again (as Donald Fagen and Walter Becker once said). All Tim's talk of celebrity poo reminded me of when I used to own a genuine David Bowie sample. It was quite good for the first few years, but after that continually changed colour and constitution, yet stank worse each time it did so. I eventually got rid of it by mashing it up and giving it to my old grandpa, telling him it was a banana that had gone a bit bad. What do you mean, cruel? He enjoyed it. Does anyone else think that Sesame Street is still incredible? I saw it the other day and was blown away by a spectactular version of "Some Enchanted Lunchtime" as perfromed by girl muppet and boy muppet in the school canteen. Also cookie monster (no relation) singing "You made me love you; me didn't want to do it..." to a picture of his favourite cookie was quite touching. Enough of me. Bye. Alasdair xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mdmclean at xxx.edu Tue Jul 6 18:25:33 1999 From: mdmclean at xxx.edu (Matthew McLean) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 13:25:33 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Fw: URGENT/SY GEAR STOLEN! --> please forward! (fwd) Message-ID: <000e01bec7d4$8ebd08e0$1c10d28d@ppp.oakland.edu> Wow...this really sucks...maybe some of our west coast friends can help... Forwarded message ---------- > > >>> URGENT/SONIC YOUTH GEAR STOLEN! > >>> > >>> july 4 1999 LA/Orange County > >>> > >>> > >>> Hello all, this is Lee from Sonic Youth > >>> here, we have had a fucked up situation > >>> come down on us over this last night--a > >>> brand new Ryder truck parked at a Ramada > >>> Inn in Orange County with ALL OF OUR GEAR > >>> IN IT was STOLEN! All of our guitars, > >>> tools, amplifiers, drums, synth -- > >>> EVERYTHING. We are fucked, both for the > >>> show tonight at the "This Ain't No Picnic" > >>> here in Orange Co., and for shows upcoming > >>> this week in Austin and Santa Fe. Our > >>> guitars are all mostly older and either > >>> very modified and/or fucked up/beat up. > >>> They are unmistakably ours, as are some of > >>> the amps, including my own 60s Fender > >>> Concert with the red/blue/yellow "Jasper > >>> Johns-style" target on it. > >>> > >>> We are asking ANYONE with ANY INFORMATION > >>> about this to get in touch with us as soon > >>> as possible by calling our man Aaron > >>> Blitzstein in New York City at > >>> 212.343.2314, or via email to > >>> "Mascaras66 at aol.com". Call collect if you > >>> want to. Please no pranks, all, this is > >>> really serious--all the gear we've used to > >>> write our last few LPs worth of stuff, > >>> instruments used for songs old and new > >>> which if truly lost will mean those songs > >>> will be lost forever. > >>> > >>> Help us out if you can, there will be a > >>> reward for any info, I'm sure. All our road > >>> cases, etc, are fully marked up with our > >>> name on them, the gtrs are so unusual that > >>> they won't really be too hard to mistake. > >>> ANY info at all will be appreciated. > >>> > >>> If the thieves themselves read this, I'm > >>> sure we'd rather buy the stuff back from > >>> you than lose it forever (you fukkerz). > >>> > >>> here are some descriptions of gear: > >>> > >>> drums: green satin flame 60s Gretch kit (w > >>> "paisley" glow in dark kik head > >>> > >>> Fender ToneMaster head and 4x12 cabinet > >>> > >>> Fender blackface Concert (4x10) w "Target > >>> design" spraypainted on front > >>> > >>> PeeVey RoadMaster Head > >>> > >>> Marshal 4x12 cab > >>> > >>> Mesa Boogie 400+ bass head/4x10 cab/18" cab > >>> > >>> Fender Bassman head (two!)/ 2x12 fender cab > >>> > >>> Fender presicion Bass > >>> > >>> Gibson Les Paul Jr w snoopy sticker > >>> > >>> Fender Jazzmasters and Jaguars--lots of > >>> 'em, mostly modified to hell (orig > >>> electronix pulled, diff p/u's etc) and > >>> usually way beat up. > >>> > >>> Travis Beans--1 koa wood, one red beat to > >>> shit > >>> > >>> White roadcase/briefcase full of gtr tools > >>> > >>> we will post more equip info later... > >>> thanks in advance for any help... > >>> > >>> PLEASE PASS THIS LIST ON TO ANYONE WHO > >>> MIGHT BE OF HELP! > >>> > >>> ---Lee/Sonic Youth > >>> > > > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From isolation at xxx.net Tue Jul 6 19:35:41 1999 From: isolation at xxx.net (.gibby.) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 14:35:41 -0400 Subject: Sinister: "where's new england in my life?" Message-ID: <001d01bec7de$59f5ca20$81288018@oemcomputer.ne.mediaone.net> Yes yes!! I saw you there... (at the pill), and I was thinking how glad I was that I hadn't worn my belle and sebastian stow t-shirt... twins). -gib +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Win.Sanchez at xxx.com Tue Jul 6 19:48:24 1999 From: Win.Sanchez at xxx.com (Win Sanchez) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 14:48:24 -0400 Subject: Sinister: "where's new england in my life?" Message-ID: <933175F4929DD111ACF700805FC19659CFD5A3@exchange-srv1.wkap.com> Well well, there seems to be much discussion about the Upstairs Lounge in Boston floating around on the list today... How many of us are there in Boston? Enough for a picnic, a meeting maybe at the Pill? -Winifred -----Original Message----- From: .gibby. [mailto:isolation at xxx.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 2:36 PM To: marie elia; sinister at Majordomo.net Subject: Re: Sinister: "where's new england in my life?" Yes yes!! I saw you there... (at the pill), and I was thinking how glad I was that I hadn't worn my belle and sebastian stow t-shirt... twins). -gib +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From isolation at xxx.net Tue Jul 6 20:21:33 1999 From: isolation at xxx.net (.gibby.) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:21:33 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Boston, Pill, LOOPER PARTY. Message-ID: <001801bec7e4$c26f5660$81288018@oemcomputer.ne.mediaone.net> I actually used to work at the pill, though I did another thing there every saturday doing an obscure new wave, 80's pop night... (a bit too obscure as i was replaced a month ago in favor of "Oh Mickey-Your so fine" 80's top 40 music)... prior to that I worked the bar there, and hung out there since it started about 2 years ago. So theres a _LOT_ of bad blood between me and that place... I was going to do a Tigermilk re-release/Looper bash there, (as I'd done the moz-party's there before) but the owner called me up yesterday and yelled at me saying "I dont appreciate you telling people not to come to my club anymore, so screw your belle and sebastian party"... so screw him and his dingy downtown club-- here's the party scoop: Im doing the party at my house. It's a three story in Cambridge just outside Harvard Square, and I'll announce all the details after the weekend. Everyone on this list who can make it is invited, and It's going to be the weekend before the Looper show, just after the Tigermilk release. My friends and I will be spinning everything from cherry-red to factory to sarah to jeepster to 4ad etc etc.... if you'd like to help out, please get in touch! More details soon!! :) Marie-- I forgot what I was wearing... umm... well i'll say hi next time. Whoever is going to Marine Research tonight, I'll be wearing a white home-made heavenly t-shirt:):) i have a star on the right side of my neck. say hi!! :) --.oOo.oOo.oOo.oOo.oOo.oOo.oOo. -- love<3gibby. >Well well, there seems to be much discussion about the Upstairs Lounge in >Boston floating around on the list today... > >How many of us are there in Boston? Enough for a picnic, a meeting maybe at >the Pill? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Tue Jul 6 21:11:08 1999 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksAndAJill) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:11:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Sheesh Message-ID: <199907062011.QAA40920@dept.english.upenn.edu> Maria Elia said: right? right? anyway... the music started to deteriorate into motown or something, but the highlight was definitely dancing to morrissey "Deteriorate into Motown"????!!!!! Ack!! I'm dying here....get me away...etc. I can certainly understand if you feel that Stax is the apex of soul but good Lord, when I was up in Boston and went to the local "mod night" at the Pill I was severely disappointed in the near-complete absence of soul and the overabundance of mainstream post-1985 Britpop. If we could trade Pill nights somehow I would gladly trade you, as mine seemed to deteriorate into Britpop even before I got there and then seemed to experience a little burp of pre-1970s soul (three whole songs, WOW thanks so much for music that actually forces you to shake that ass instead of the other way around), only to fall back again to Blur or Pulp or whatever. Not that there's anything inherently wrong with playing those groups but I felt bait-and-switched. Hang the DJ? Maybe lethal injection or something faster!!! No, seriously folks, I'm not wishing actual harm upon the DJs, maybe just their record collections... Gibby Smalls, I wish I could be up in Beantown for your own house party, as it sounds like you will have the indiepop collection from hell rocking. I'll put in a remote request for some Josef K..."Radio Drill Time"? (I'm in a Josek K phase right now, forgive me) There are so many pathways that lead to the heart, Xavier BXK M o t h e r , M a y bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu I S l e e p http://www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 W i t h D a n g e r ? X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boostventilator at xxx.com Tue Jul 6 21:17:08 1999 From: boostventilator at xxx.com (Boost Ventilator) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 17:17:08 -0300 Subject: Sinister: #6 on the anti-hit list Message-ID: <199907062017.RAA03124@bug.andara.com> http://www.canoe.ca/JamMusicAntihit/jul06_anti.html BELLE AND SEBASTIAN "My Wandering Days Are Over" Finally available on CD, the debut by these critics' darlings is one of those fully formed pieces of work that will enthrall a handful and leave many more scratching their heads over all the fuss. Suffice to say, you shouldn't even give this a second thought unless you own at least one Nick Drake album. (From "Tigermilk", Jeepster/Matador) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Tue Jul 6 21:21:20 1999 From: johnj at xxx.com (JJ) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 21:21:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Select review Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990706212120.0079eb60@mail.u-net.com> Don't know if anyone's mentioned it yet but Tigermilk is reviewed in this month's Select mag, plus a tiny weeny interview with Richard C and Stevie J (ie they asked them a couple of questions), there's a bit of one of Elish Hope's postings to this list quoted in the article. Anyway Roy Wilkinson gives it 5 out of 5 which isn't bad, really, and nowhere in the article does it appear to be condescending towards B&S fans which is most unusual. That's it really, who thinks it's going to do better than TBWTAS? I do. But I have been known to be wrong. Not often mind you. JJ x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carllafong at xxx.net Tue Jul 6 22:40:59 1999 From: carllafong at xxx.net (John Mahoney) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:40:59 -0500 Subject: Sinister: bowlie! bowlie! bowlie! Message-ID: <002c01bec7f8$4019c4c0$c56785ce@ELNcarllafong> So, can anyone tell me the details of the show that was on last night? What songs did they play from the set? I've heard it was heavily edited and that is all. Thank you JM +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jafrey1 at xxx.edu Wed Jul 7 05:26:06 1999 From: jafrey1 at xxx.edu (Juliebean) Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 23:26:06 -0500 Subject: Sinister: baby steps Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19990706232606.006b8070@students.wisc.edu> out of the nursery, into your mailbox. in January 98 a friend gave me a copy of siniser and i fell in love with b&s. I used to sit in my car crying listening to it. i went nuts in Chicago when they played there last fall.... even caught a copy of the play list when they threw it out into the crowd. are there any other Milwaukee b&s-ophiles out here? also, i have a recording of the studio Charles show from Paris, if anyone wants a copy. you light up my life juliebean +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Wed Jul 7 08:10:51 1999 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 00:10:51 -0700 Subject: Sinister: sf looper show Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990707001051.039e4bc0@mail.hooked.net> just back from the sf looper show... they pretty much played what you'd expect (the album). the sound was pretty nice considering that rumors were flying that it might be bad, since the beulah show last night was hampered by bad sound (hearsay, but supported by several). overall a pleasant eve once Looper hit stage. IQU (k records) had an interesting set with a little more bite featuring one fellow on standup bass with a lot of energy... a couple of their songs had some minor tempo problems, but overall i think folks (who seemed there for looper) were pleased with a lot of their texture and catchy loops. one fellow next to me remarked tho, 'there's only so much theramin you can take in one night', and you know, despite being a theramin fan, i kinda agreed with him. First time I've seen Looper live and they did justice to their overall sound. Plus I enjoyed the accompanying video and the overall mood created. For those of you who don't know the 'great american music hall' in san francisco, its slightly antiquated, quaint, ornate interior complemented Looper's stylings well. It's one of the best places to play in town, IMHO. grades: looper: A- (very pleasant, courteous, clever, together, but just a little soft from mid-touritis) iqu: B/B+ (energetic, fairly excited, great on some songs, misfires on some other songs, some minor mix issues) I'm curious about anyone else's opinions, mainly because I'm more of a B&S fan than Looper, but overall I was fairly pleased. senor droolcup [ weighing in at 3 stone, 1 neat ] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marcusomond at xxx.com Wed Jul 7 10:44:09 1999 From: marcusomond at xxx.com (Marcus Omond) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 02:44:09 PDT Subject: Sinister: crushes and brighton beer Message-ID: <19990707094410.3206.qmail@hotmail.com> hi there, sinisteroonies, right, the wonderful booze explosion from dublin started a review of the brighton "picnic" with a list of things that did not happen, so i thought i might continue it... we did not get almost chucked out of a pub for singing 'if you're feeling sinister' far too loud when every one else was watching some arty film on the telly, i was not the drunkest person there, and i did not lie in the middle of the road for half an hour while siany got me water from another pub to stop me from throwing up the ten pints i'd had. by the time paula and her lovely boyfriend arrived richard, sian and i had not had about five pints each and were not staggering around on the beach looking like winos. and i was not too drunk to be able to make it to the train station, thus having to crash at siany's place (much to the disgust of her parents i'm sure, even though she says they liked me). but a good time was had by all, even if between five of us we managed to ingest more alcohol in five or six hours than was consumed over two days by about twenty people at the london picnic (which was wonderful too). we should do another brighton one someday, only not with so much drink this time... i'm not up for another two day hangover... crushes are great. while i was in prague and bowlie was going on, i was waiting at the tramstop and i noticed a beautiful girl. so i started dreaming. then the next day, with bowlie over, she was at the tram stop again and was wearing A LOOPER BADGE!!! so i started talking to one of my friends in an uncharacteristically loud voice about how disappointed i was to have missed belle and sebastian and how they were the best band in the world... you know the drill. and this beautiful girl came up, asked if b&s were playing in prague (to which i replied 'i wish i wish i wish', but i didn't say what i was wishing) and we got on the tram together. and we talked about stuart's heavenly voice, and isobel's looks (which we both agreed were undeniably cute - one of the main reasons i went out with my swedish ex was because she looked like isobel) and i was in such a state of shock that one of the prettiest girls in prague liked b&s that i didn't ask for her number when i got of the tram, only saying 'see you around then,' and hoping to see her at the tramstop the same time the next day. but i didn't, and i went back to the tramstop (sprinting out of school to get there on time) every day for the next two months, and never talked to her again, even though i thought i saw her once in the tram that was just leaving on the only day that i waited for my friends before rushing to the tramstop. argh!!! and so that one stayed a crush. i think it can be cool when a crush becomes reality, but not if you find out that the girl/ boy is into the vengaboys and ocean colour scene, thinks that athletics is a good way to pass the time or thinks that any of the arty things that move you (a chagall painting, a bob dylan bootleg, a poem by don paterson) are 'wank' when you show them to them. but when they like them too things suddenly become brighter, like if you were on the beach in cyprus and a beauiful girl kissed you... anyhow, i've probably bored you all. is anyone apart from natasha and me going to 'track and field' this friday night? i'll be wearing my stow t-shirt, and i don't know what she'll be wearing, but it'll probably include at least one upside down badge. if we don't see you there, then hope to see you on monday at trash. i'm going to go and dream about the signed copy of dj shadow's 'endtroducing' that's being held until the weekend for me, and listen to my bowlie tape (which doesn't cut off in the middle of lazy line painter jane - anyone who wants a copy and has something pretty to swap me e-mail me privately). anyway, i've gone on too long (sorry list mummy) and i'll love you and leave you with a stanza by don paterson which needs holding to your breast and treasuring. love Marcus XXX 'and no trade was ever so fair or so tender so where was the flaw in the plan the night we lay down on the flag of surrender and woke on the flag of japan' from 'imperial' by don paterson ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.EDU Wed Jul 7 10:54:13 1999 From: ynoh at xxx.EDU (Youn Jong Noh) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 02:54:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: no B & S content/ Hefner in London Message-ID: Dear all, Sorry to use the list for this ... Is anyone going to see Hefner at Notre Dame Hall in London on July 9th, or can anyone be convinced to do so? I saw them in Glasgow and they were great. If so, would you mind sending me an email as soon as possible as I am on the Isle of Skye and need to make travel arrangements to London? Thanks very much! Youn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Wed Jul 7 11:03:59 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 11:03:59 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: back in the UK Message-ID: Hello list! I am quite happy I deleted by accident one hundred and sixty messages piled up a week on rigorous no-checking my email box.Because I would have felt too guilty to perpetrate such a criminal action deliberately, but probably I would have never had time to catch up with all your gossip,confessions,reviews and suggetions in years. Given my life is in the most absolute chaos at the moment,specially.After a work-trip into Umbria to discuss how to parallelize quantum chemistry programs (grand, really grand. It is always better to talk about work in an Medieval environment), I have to move houses, offices, get lots of work done, attend a few social events I cannot miss and try to get ready for the eclipse. During my neverending journey back to Nottingham, I read and reread every little bit of Select, not missing any line devoted to analyse why Tigermilk is great.And I was happy they rated 'My wandering days are over' as highly as I do.But I was not so careful about the tiny wee interview and skipped our Elish's reference. I will do my homework tonite, promise. All the crushing with unknown people thread is very good . If there is a chance of a close up of the person admired from distance, that is a dissappointment and a mistake.Mystery is exactly the essence of such a feeling.But why do we (human beings in general) enjoy and appreciate mystery as one of the force fields of nature and the already known things are never the same? Sorry for this epistemological conclusion.I will keep a low profile next time. L-O-V-E Arantxa PS What about the Scandinavian picnic in London? Can Mediterranean lasses be accepted? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordi-tv at xxx.com Wed Jul 7 09:01:35 1999 From: jordi-tv at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano i Vilar) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 09:01:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: the bowlie gig Message-ID: <19990707120135.HM.00000000001IZFj@mixmail.com> Just a quick question: did The Gentle Waves reached any position on the official UK charts ? (I mean both independent and the whole opn es). I�m sure that "Tigermilk" will reach better than "TWATTYBUS". And a note for Ailsa Ross: it�s not that I don �t trust you (even though i�ve been waiting for months for your whole Bowlie gig), it�s just that a guy from the spanish radio told me to make him a copy of the BBC gig (note for broadcast it). Bye, little flies ===================================== ============= Jordiet Sinistre ================================================== Tu E-Mail Gratis en http://www.mixmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Wed Jul 7 11:54:10 1999 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgirl) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 03:54:10 PDT Subject: Sinister: london picnic 22nd july Message-ID: <19990707105410.216.qmail@hotmail.com> hey again, ofcourse all lasses and lads are welcome race coulor age etc Were happy swedes and as longa s you share our joy you shall be most invited to come.. now we've arranged a date..22nd july then there's the time, place and well yeash that stuff.. someone said primrose hillw ich i thought was good..but I dunno how to get there so we shall ahve to nmake a meeting pint and someone who's been there before will have to show they way:) Does anyone know if there are any good gigs this week between the 20th and the 23rd?? I need to know:) so hugs all and I ihope as many of you come.. Becka, Katherine and Jonas my two friends..were bringibng to other sewdish girls aswell..It's jonas and his harem we call it *giggles* but remember to http://travel.to/blondie before you do anything :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rehakk at xxx.edu Wed Jul 7 13:41:17 1999 From: rehakk at xxx.edu (Kimberly Rehak) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 08:41:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: drivel drivel drivel Message-ID: oooo, you'll have to excuse this post if you are one set against > incessant driveling and thread weaving, because that is what this is > going to end up being (as always). yes, bored again at work but > this time, unlike yesterday, i don't get a horrid sick feeling in my > tummy everytime i turn to look at the computer screen. it's > only 8 am and i've been at work for 1.5 hours. i woke up at 6 and > could think of nothing better to do then to get my arse here, in this > chair, for the next 8 hours. isn't that pretty sad: that the best > thing i could think of to do is THIS? i once had a friend who said he > wanted to be struck with love, go to the girl and offer "runaway with > me, let's go rob a bank and run away and be happy." i would have done > it in a flutter of a heartbeat (since i'm working on my kleptomaniac > skills too--i stole a $1 paintbrush last week--shh..) > > oooo, crushes are a good topic for me too. presently i've got one on > an employee of this cafe downtown, this father of two who is a member > of our swim club, and this 50-something miner here at work..the last > two though, i don't want anything to happen with. imagine me breaking > up a sweet sweet home. actually, that would be somewhat amusing. har > har har...everyone always asks me how i keep them all in order [the > crushes, that is] and my appropriate response is "well, hell, it's not > like anything ever HAPPENS with these people." i see one when i'm > walking about, the other when i'm discreetly trying not to be noticed > in a bathing suit, and the other when i'm passing out paychecks or > getting a tour of the mine" but damn me if i ever get the courage to go > into that cafe now, when that boy is working. the world is a much > nicer place in my head. > > drat! i just looked and my tie is not navy blue it's black...oh well > > someone mentioned the rondelles the other day, i'm correct? well, i > saw them monday and YIKES! i was in love. it's been a long time that > i've actually had fun at a show. i mean, i've been to some good ones > and had an ok time between sets but wowo, the rondelles... yummy. > > i'm getting a mullet . i had to explain what a mullet was > to the woman who cut my hair until i became cheap and impatient and > just did it myself. that's not ironic, i know, but what is it? what > the word? amusing, i guess. > > well, the-lady-i-share-an-office-with (that's her job title too, > imagine that) just came in with cupcakes so i best be going. > > good day, > KIMberly > xx > > ps. i'm sorry but i simply must ask. would anyone be willing to tape > the bowlie or anything live for me? i don't have anything but the fact > that i'd be the happiest gal alive if you would and some collages and > pictures and movie cards to offer in exchange and any costs for > shipping and dubbing and don't forget about the wonderful knowledge to > know that YOU, yes you, the dubber of the tape will be spreading belle > and sebastian joy across the world... > pps. ug! my shirt keeps popping open. how's that for smut? ppps. bored? icq# 39199492 reply to: lifeinpink at yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eculb at xxx.com Wed Jul 7 14:08:04 1999 From: eculb at xxx.com (James Ng) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:08:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: No important B&S content.. Message-ID: <002301bec879$c0946020$25efabc3@jhkng> Hey there, well heres another post by me which has nothing really much to say. did someone mention something about B&S + the Carpenters a while back? maybe they did, maybe they didnt, but i just looove the Carpenters! i remember when i was a little 'un i was just in love with Karens voice, i thought it was the most feminine voice id ever heard, but then again i was probably only nine at the time or someting. i kept on playing one of their songs, i cant remember which one it was, the chorus went something like 'cant i adore you, although we are oceans apart, na na na na na na na na ( i forget), but i can dream, cant i?' ive got their greatest hits or best of CD, and it helps to comfort me whenever im feeling a bit down.all those slow sad lurrrve ballads, you just cant beat 'em... Crushes, YES, thats what i thrive on, they're perfect for me as then i dont actually have to go and take a chance on them, which frightens me to death. i had a major crush on someone at uni last year, it was pretty sad really and it led to me doing rather silly things, but we're all fools for love, arent we? well, i know i am... i had a little crush just forming rather recently with one girl but now terms ended so i wont see her for three months and i have to fill the void now here at home by finding a job for the summer. Ooops, i ALWAYS leave things like this till the last minute, i couldnt find anything yesterday, i really really REAALLY need to find a job. else i'll be stuck at home all day. and with no money. ..and an overdraft... oh, and ive decided that Century of Fakers is my new favourite B&S song, i watched the video for it when it was on MTV, and it really does complement the song so well.. JaMeS :) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Hall/7789 ...for my reviews and photos of belle and sebastian and the gentle waves in concert, and some little stories to keep you warm at night :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed Jul 7 14:45:13 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:45:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: There's reason behind my reptile smile Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E2275CBCE@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Now that I'm back from oiling the wheels of justice (and cutting the brake cable, draining the clutch and peeing in the fuel tank) while on jury service, I can tell you all about the horrific, depraved underworld of the master criminal into which I was submerged for the last fortnight. Except, erm, I can't, as when there are 1,000 potential witnesses listening to you instead of the usual one (or none, more often than not), contempt of court may not be such a good idea... Anyway, it wasn't very interesting, though more interesting than sitting on my arse for eight days waiting to be called onto a trial. No such luck. 2 cases collapsed, 1 delayed, 1 belated guilty plea and two where I made the 15 chosen but ended up being one of the three not in the starting line up. Finally I made it, and as a surprise my other jurors, feeling sorry for me after my over-histrionic tale of woe, made me the foreman. The problem with being the foreman is that you can't give the arsehole for the prosecution the finger as you mumble "not guilty". Hey ho, justice has been served, and all that. I was disappointed not to have to persuade all 11 other angry young men that I was right and they were wrong, as we all agreed within thirty seconds and then ate sandwiches for an hour and a half to make it look like we were hard at thought. It's evident that the most successful thing about this letter is the way I'm bringing to you, the reader, an indication of quite how tedious the whole thing was. Oh well. It would be kind of interesting to know what the Sinister collective's ideal cover song for B&S to perform would be. If anyone wants to write to me and let me know (privately, natch), I shall draft a begging letter to Struan and suggest they play it during their triumphant return to Bowlie II* as surprise guests** in September...... Props again to all the funsters at the London picnics, specially the Sunday one that I could actually go to - and I think the Sinister footie squad would definitely be better for an ex-Camera Obscura player - like Eric Cantona asking to join Billingham Sinfonia. Martin, you're one of us, mate... And on that touching note I'll leave you with a little tale of a B&S dream. Struan was playing a solo gig at some kind of mini-festival - he was followed on stage by a goth band, if that's any idea - and when I shouted "play paper Boat!" he leant down and whispered to me, his lips brushing sensually against my ear. Um. Not quite sure what to make of that, really. If one of Belle and Sebastian left, would they still be the same band? Mark *which you are all going to, of course. Oh go on... **obviously a complete flight of fancy. Please don't think I know things, strange things that man should not know... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dunca_chap at xxx.com Wed Jul 7 17:49:56 1999 From: dunca_chap at xxx.com (Adam Chapman) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 16:49:56 GMT Subject: Sinister: Further London picnic observations... Message-ID: <19990707164956.77851.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey, Kids! Further to the comments of Miss vicky [a speedy recovery wished from afar, please remember the tape], i don't really have a lot to add, not being able to regail you with tales of inebriated ramblings; i wasn't there, living in Yeovil is a painful thing sometimes, i had a train to catch. The Saturday at least was wonderful, a big HELLO!! ti you all, twas indeed good to be able to see you all and to place some faces, should like to go to another, if i can get away with another trip to London so soon after the last one. i did not play football, otherwise there would have been far, far worse carnage than one bruised ankle, oh, yes. [iwas known as "chopper" at school for this reason, says it all really...]. Since then i have aquired the Hefner album and have listened to little else since, apart from the much truncated, and i'd say rather creakily edited Bowlie set, which was good, but not great [ though it did fit quite neatly onto one side of a blank cassette i noticed, coincidence, non?]. *The wrong girl* was rather wonderful though i thought, but the absense of "the kids...." is unforgivable i feel, esp as i wasn't there...[sulk! pout!] The MM review of Tigermilk, which i've just read in Smiths, is probably best avoided for the ritual slagging and *Smiffs* comparisons contained therein, but it is notable in its uniqueness, being the only bad 'un i've seen, ho hum... I've had a fair few crushes, some good, some bad, but all great at the time which is after all the point isn't it? May the sunshine on you all, as it did at Primrose Hill on Saturday, and probably Sunday too, Adam XXXXX "Because I know that you know, that we know they don't know whats been going on.... " Gruff Rhys, SFA, 'Demons' ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordi-tv at xxx.com Wed Jul 7 15:45:33 1999 From: jordi-tv at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano i Vilar) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 15:45:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bowlie - Barcelona Message-ID: <19990707184533.HM.00000000001IfQs@mixmail.com> Stop mailing me about the Bowlie-Barcel ona trade. Thanks in advance for your in tentions. ================================ ================== Jordiet Sinistre ================================================== Tu E-Mail Gratis en http://www.mixmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daftpunk at xxx.au Wed Jul 7 18:09:10 1999 From: daftpunk at xxx.au (Kin WOO) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 01:09:10 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Cool Select (HAS B&S content) Message-ID: <199907071709.BAA07113@tartarus.uwa.edu.au> Hello lovely listees- long time no post! This is a belated hi-de-ho-I've finished-my-exams-and-am-now-on-a-well-deserved-if-short-holiday break sort of thing:) hope you all liked my rather cute Summer Solstice card (which if you haven't checked out by now-you should!) I am of course quite upset at the prospect of never seeing that supposedly wondrous B&S special since of course I live here in Australia. Katrina, any chance of that special making its way to our premier late night video show, "Rage"? I've only ever seen the vid for "Dirty Dream 2" which was erm interesting to say the least. I thought it was pretty cool that they picked PE and Air videos to show. I love Air and their dreamy melancholy soundscapes and I can dig the PE. Wow, Select magazine has enjoyed a rejuvenation of late. Not only has it become an unofficial B&S fanzine (the more the merrier I say) but it has fully emerged from that dreadful period in 96/97 when it was fully laddish and blokey (flashback: Oasis and Cast were considered gods, they had articles on pies and pubs and Louise Wener was considered the face of feminism in music: YECK!) Though I miss the black border binding that accompanied the first few issue of the new look Select (and which prevented the covers from coming off like they always do), I am glad to say it's a mag worth reading now, and not the music equivalent of Loaded. Another testament to its new found brilliance is their rating of the excellent and wickedly delightful film "Cruel Intentions" a shining five star rating. AWESOME!!! This film has garnered either really positive reviews and to be expected, a few elitist grumbles, but really it is such a guilty indulgence to watch it. The acting from the three female leads (the amazing Sarah Michelle Gellar, Reese Witherspoon and Selma Blair) is faultless, even Ryan Philippe is good, the dialogue so catty and clever, and it adds cool twists to the ancient plot. It is so much more sophisticated that your average teen flick. I've said it before and I'll say it again, London listees, the film has just opened where you are: GO SEE!:) Well that's all folks, till next time. In my stereo: Kruder and Dorfmeister: K&D Sessions Disappointed by the new Catatonia and Suede albums (so samey!) but love the new Beth Orton one. Am hanging out for new stuff from Dot Allison and the Twisted Nerve compilation. Seeya Kin Woo ----------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://web.horde.org/imp/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From robhalcrow at lineone.net Wed Jul 7 18:27:58 1999 From: robhalcrow at lineone.net (robhalcrow at lineone.net) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:27:58 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Who was it that said the world was mainly into horses and spare change? Message-ID: <199907071727.SAA22176@boober.lineone.net> Dear all, I'm a lurker now, which I highly recommend, but I've had a very B&S few days which I thought I'd share. I played a gig on Friday, wearing my TBWTAS t shirt, and we were heckled by drunken shouty blokes during the (many) quiet bits. They wanted to RAWK! (and they got their way in the end). My highlight was showing videos of Bagpuss on a b&w portable TV while we played. The promoter liked it anyway. Better than that- this morning I saved 3 confused, blinking baby birds whose nest had fallen off our house. The RSPCA said put them safely in a box with the remains of the nest and their feathery Mum and Dad will come and get them. Or the cats will. One or the other. I'd never seen the video for LLPJ till the other day. It's brilliant. Hilarious. I remember hearing the song on Jo Whiley's show and thinking it was appalling. Funny how you can change your mind, eh? And , is it a trick of the light or do they only employ v pretty girls in B&S vids? They all seem to have this.........no, let's not go down that blind alley. To the person that asked what was first on the Bowlie R1 thing I believe it was 'Slow Graffiti', not 'Seeing Other People' (or 'Seeking Other People' as Steve Lamacq called it). The show was,indeed, arse. Does anyone have a tape of that Mark Radcliffe session where tings got a bit.....frosty and he said something like 'Listen we started you lot off..'? What song did they do? Right, that's my lot. Back into the realms of Lurkdom. I'm off to Glasgow this weekend. See if I can find one of those B&S vid type girls, perhaps. Yours Rob 'Armadillo' -Marty Balin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From whatev at xxx.com Wed Jul 7 19:52:51 1999 From: whatev at xxx.com (Steven) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:52:51 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Bowlie - Barcelona Message-ID: <000601bec8a9$f04da080$210f4ecf@en.en.com> Since Jordi doesn't want to make any more copies of that Barcelona gig would anyone who has gotten a copy be willing to make copies for some more of us? Please?...I have many things to offer in trade. Please email me at whatev at en.com and hopefully we can work something out. Any plans for a meet up at the Looper show in Detroit? I'll be coming from out of town and haven't a clue as to where to go or what to do. thanks, Steven >Stop mailing me about the Bowlie-Barcel >ona trade. Thanks in advance for your in >tentions. >================================ >================== >Jordiet Sinistre > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sandramorales81 at xxx.com Wed Jul 7 20:15:20 1999 From: sandramorales81 at xxx.com (sandra morales) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 20:15:20 BST Subject: Sinister: why does my heart hurt so much? Message-ID: <19990707191521.64403.qmail@hotmail.com> So, I have finally been given the gift of speechand insteas of wanting to rant about B+S as this list encourages I want to complain to all of you about the way my heart has been ripped in half by the man that supposedly loves(loved)me. So instead of telling you how much I love B+S and how Tigermilk is the best album ever I will instead try to explain the way I'm feeling. Cruches seems to be the topic of the week and that is the only relevance that this letter has to this list. I started off by having a massive cruch on this man but when we realised our mutual feelings we started going out with each other. That was 8 months ago and for all that time I have loved, cherished and worchipped him because when i fall in love I fall very hard. Anyway, Lat night i saw this "god" coming out of a friends bedroom half dressed leaving a naked woman lying in bed.I cannot understand why he did this to me. What have I done wrong to deserve having my tender heart broken. He says that it meant nothing. Since when did sex ever mean "nothing" it can be a mistake but it always means something. I'm not abt to throw my life away because of him but today I woke up and just wished that I could cruel back into bed and never wake up. I can't blame what he did on mtself but I also can't help wondering if it was my fault. Is there anyone decent out ther? Okay I've probably embarrassed just abt everyone on this list and this email will probably just be left in your in-boxes forgotton but if anyone has been through a similar experiance then please mail me privately or if anyone has cheated on the one they love the write and tell me why so that I can try to understand him. It's sandramorales at hotmail.com Thanks to everyone for listening Sandy .XXX. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From editor at xxx.uk Wed Jul 7 20:27:14 1999 From: editor at xxx.uk (piezoelectric unit) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 20:27:14 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Belle Collection In-Reply-To: <19990707164956.77851.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Ho hum kids. Just thought I'd do some hopeless self-promotion and tell you that the Tangents site has just collected all the B&S pieces from the past few years into the 'Belle Collection'. Eight super bits of scribbling that will make very little sense if you like reading music reviews that tell you what records or shows actually sound like, but lots of sense if... well just 'if' really. The first five of the articles have been off-line for a while because they are in Young and Foolish, but they are now there for you all to laugh at. Oh yeah, and the last of the pieces is not a review of the reissued Tigermilk. Oh no. Keep the faith, Alistair http://www.tangents.co.uk/tangents/belle/index.htm l for the Belle Collection http://www.tangents.co.uk/tangents/belle/belle6.ht ml for the non Tigermilk thing +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Wed Jul 7 20:48:15 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 15:48:15 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Fucking Hit It, Beans! Message-ID: <199907071548_MC2-7C2D-5E8A@compuserve.com> Hi Sinistaurs, Is the above really the passionate exhortation expelled by Our Struan towards the climax of LLPJ? (I've been listening to the BBC's bowdlerised B&S Bowlie broadcast - I know its incomplete but you can't really expect more than 45 minutes, & you can't beat what BBC engineers do to a live broadcast sound, as it comes out better than either a studio or the actual gig) Question 2: what's the picture on the Jeepster Mary Jo postcards all about, then? The V-Twin (or should that be VU??) single sounds great: I didn't realise it was them at first, coz the vocals sounded pretty good~ How many B&S members thereon? NME says that their S Murdoch directed video contains live Bowlie footage: does that include front row audience shots? Any comment from our official Jeepster representative :) WARNING! The next bit's an advert so anyone still here just skip if you don't like good music :) (I hope I'm not treading on any Western Australian toes but) the Sodastream ep is great & available now from Pickled Egg records for GBP 2.50: mail Nigel @ nigelt at uk.uu.net for details. Apologies for so many questions, Bye, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mark at xxx.com Wed Jul 7 22:05:55 1999 From: mark at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 15:05:55 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Sinister: pronunciation In-Reply-To: <19990706162520.3632.rocketmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, marie elia wrote: > oh, archel mentioned Cruel Intentions and the american > pronunciation of "sebastian" as "sebasjun"... um, > yes, over here we say it like that. i wasn't aware > that the british way was to pronounce all the > syllables -- se-bas-ti-an. I looked up "bastion" in the dictionary, and two pronunciations are listed: "bas'-chen" and "bas'-tee-en" (no schwa etc. in ASCII, sorry) I wonder if the order would be reversed in a British dictionary. In American English, consonants don't take their full value as much as in British English (exceptions include "r" after a vowel). --Mark __ Burning Rome : SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 < http://www.burningrome.com/ > < more high-quality MP3s coming soon > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elfie at xxx.ie Wed Jul 7 22:09:41 1999 From: elfie at xxx.ie (nickie) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 22:09:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Conga like you mean it Message-ID: <199907072108.PAA12779@turtle.esosoft.net> Hello, kids. most of you won't know me...but those who do will almost certainly be dancing a conga round the room right now. My poor fools! There you sit, your innocent pupils dancing along these lines with ne'ry an idea, how life changing my re-appearance on the sinister scene is. yes! due to an unprecedented number of *two* people casually wondering why, after my first five posts, i never wrote again i'm back! well, this adoring multitude of two can thank their lucky stars for spurring on my glorious come back - like the George Michaels to my Gerry Halliwell. good work fellas. and good work, indeed, to messrs. geddes and colburn, who dj'd over here in dublin last friday. don't think anyone wrote about it...and if they did, and you would rather die than have to hear about it again - tough. it was my first time on a guest list ever. projected my voice so that the maximum amount of people could hear. not really. da boyz played loads of funky stuff and northern souly stuff, and the stones and the who and the small faces and primal scream adn a bit of hip-hop and more.No cloak room, so it was back to dancing round my bag, in true bowlie style. not only that, but as in bowlie i was the sweatiest sogbag in the place. List crush? List slush more like.Danced all night long. It were great. the belles were in freebird records earlier in the day, so a chum of mine who works there got them to autograph two cds for me. apparently, little lord murdoch refused to sign until the inlay cards were taken out of the sleeves for him, and after doing a couple pulled a strop and refused to sign any more. ROCK N' ROLL!!! The I.F.Y.F.S. one says "Stuart Murdoch thinks he's great" and then Chris writes "So do I" and the D.O.W says "Hello Punter! - Beans - Stuart M." i know i should scorn autographs, because its just accepting the myth of the pop-star and how they're superior to us mere mortal scum, but i was pleased. that Richard Colburn is a lovely bloke. i remember talking to him at bowlie about me actually being Nick Heyward or some other drunken rubbish. He couldn't stop laughing, and i went off thinking that i was the funniest person, like, ever...till my friend told me that he does that to everyone. or maybe they were just jealous that's probably what it was. nickie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SSharp5210 at xxx.com Wed Jul 7 22:39:46 1999 From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 17:39:46 EDT Subject: Sinister: Not terribly deep thoughts. Message-ID: Hi Poptarts. I find myself thinking over my musical past.Is it just me or does musical preference get slower as you get older?...Between the ages of 16 and 22 I would have died for the Pixies,I now hit 25 and I adore B&S.Oh Christ!..when I hit 30 shall I adore Phil Collins?.....Shoot me now. Steve the drunk yet still sunny natured fool xxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bug at xxx.uk Thu Jul 8 00:03:05 1999 From: bug at xxx.uk (bUgleT) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 00:03:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: "you came to dance.." Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990708000305.007c9750@mail.netkonect.co.uk> dear ppl, oh sob. i could be in strange fruit right at this moment dancing away to belle & sebastian w/ all the other lovely ones [and one very lovely one - i have fallen in love w/ his bright red hair]..but unfortunately i have coursework to do and hair to dye. why is the world so full of poo and wee? *bug* ___________________________________________ ***the tiny zine on the net*** http://ds.dial.pipex.com/sage/tartrazine ***and the best band in oxford*** http://ds.dial.pipex.com/sage/moonkat +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlearsonist at xxx.com Thu Jul 8 00:50:24 1999 From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 16:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: badges are evil. Message-ID: <19990707235024.22047.rocketmail@web128.yahoomail.com> someone just used the greeting "hello poptarts" and i like it quite well, so i'm going to blatantly and proudly purloin it... hello, poptarts! mmm, that was nice. ach! have you newyork listees realized that the looper show (in 2 weeks, 2 days!) is part of this silly digital club fest thing? you can buy a badge for $50 and see all the bands that are part of the festival (and actually this is quite cheap and impressive, considering the number of amazing bands)... some shows you can see individually -- like looper -- and some you MUST have a badge to see -- like the promise ring, which makes me so, so sad... i despair of ever catching them live... anyway, i wonder if, if there's all these privileged people with badges running around, and the shows are all first come, first serve regardless, will we have trouble getting into the looper show? i haven't bought tix yet, as my paycheck arrives next thursday... perhaps i'm just a worrier. oh, the pronunciation thing: --- Mark Kolmar wrote: > In American English, consonants don't take their > full value as much as in British English (exceptions > include "r" after a vowel). this would be because Standard American English is rhotic, that is, retaining the "r" sound. except in places like boston, where the dialect is conservative -- more like Received Pronunciation. sheesh, i'm a nerd, but i took this history of the english language class and.... [trails off and notices the withered looks on 1,000 faces] oh, well, yes, of course this is boring and not interesting to 75% of you... i just find it interesting... oh, i'm doing that self-centered I Am A Student thing again, aren't i? oh, okay. fine. i'll be quiet now. xoxo, marie === ********************************************************** "I was a proper snob in college, as only a future lifetime English major can be" - b. glass (j.d.s.) ********************************************************** _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From komis at xxx.edu Thu Jul 8 03:26:52 1999 From: komis at xxx.edu (Dmitry Komis) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 21:26:52 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Not terribly deep thoughts. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990707212652.007bdce0@students.uiuc.edu> hello new yorkers (and everyone else in this world who doesnt matter as much), im back from my "weekend trip" to NY.all i can say is that i am in love. new yorkers should cherish the ground they walk on. a friend of mine was kind enough to let me stay with her and her crazy roomate. she convinced me to move in permanently, so i decided that i will be moving when i graduate from school. the village will be mine! *evil laughter* At 05:39 PM 7/7/99 EDT, Steve the drunk yet still sunny natured fool wrote: >Hi Poptarts. > I find myself thinking over my musical past.Is it just me or does musical >preference get slower as you get older?...Between the ages of 16 and 22 I >would have died for the Pixies,I now hit 25 and I adore B&S.Oh Christ!..when >I hit 30 shall I adore Phil Collins?.....Shoot me now. hmm...i got into the smiths at about 14, mazzy star when i was 16, belle and sebastian at 17, i wonder where this takes me. maybe ill go the opposite way and start listening to rammstein at 20. oh god i hope not. dmitry +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Trelisaze at xxx.com Thu Jul 8 04:13:19 1999 From: Trelisaze at xxx.com (Trelisaze at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 23:13:19 EDT Subject: Sinister: Looper T-shirts Message-ID: <24e89b1a.24b5714f@aol.com> hi guys I was at the Looper show in SF yesterday. Wonderful performance!!!! Anyhow, I really wanted to buy that adorable t-shirt they had for sale, but alas, i waited too late and they ran out before I even had a chance :( . I was wondering if anyone planning to go to any of their shows in the near future could pick one up for me? I wanted a red one in size small, but the size is more important to me than the color, so i wouldn't mind purple at all. If some kind soul would help me out, I would be most grateful. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TheeXVirus at xxx.com Thu Jul 8 04:25:02 1999 From: TheeXVirus at xxx.com (TheeXVirus at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 23:25:02 EDT Subject: Sinister: Looper T-shirts Message-ID: <44e2c3fc.24b5740e@aol.com> were the shirts were the shirts available at the shows any different than the ones available at the treehouse? i actually can't even remember what they lookedke, just that they were a bit familiar. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From komis at xxx.edu Thu Jul 8 04:36:27 1999 From: komis at xxx.edu (Dmitry Komis) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 22:36:27 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Looper T-shirts In-Reply-To: <44e2c3fc.24b5740e@aol.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990707223627.007b4b20@students.uiuc.edu> i got my looper tshirt from the trehouse yesterday. it was white. i dont think they had any color ones. i would have gotten a red one if they had one At 11:25 PM 7/7/99 EDT, you wrote: >were the shirts were the shirts available at the shows any different than the >ones available at the treehouse? i actually can't even remember what they >lookedke, just that they were a bit familiar. >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iles at xxx.uk Thu Jul 8 10:09:58 1999 From: iles at xxx.uk (Mark Iles) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 10:09:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: B&S postcard In-Reply-To: <199907071709.LAA26131@turtle.esosoft.net> Message-ID: Apologies if people have been talking about this already (I tried looking at the archives, but the search engine isn't working) - I got a postcard advertising Tigermilk the other day from Jeepster. Presumably lots of you did, too. So does anyone know who the woman on it is? It's not Isobel and doesn't look much like Sarah. Could it be Katrina... or some other associate of the band? Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ Mark Iles, Tel: +44 (0113) 2065042 Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Fax: +44 (0113) 2340183 Genetic Epidemiology Laboratory, Ashley Wing, Email: iles at boreas.leeds.icnet.uk St James's University Hospital, Beckett Street, Leeds, LS9 7TF U.K. ____________________________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lisahelpstheblind at xxx.com Thu Jul 8 10:09:04 1999 From: lisahelpstheblind at xxx.com (lisahelpstheblind at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 05:09:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: B&S postcard Message-ID: <990708050904ED.11362@weba8.iname.net> > Apologies if people have been talking about this already (I tried looking > at the archives, but the search engine isn't working) - I got a postcard > advertising Tigermilk the other day from Jeepster. Presumably lots of you > did, too. So does anyone know who the woman on it is? It's not Isobel and > doesn't look much like Sarah. Could it be Katrina... or some other > associate of the band? the girls name is helene, she's a glasgow girl too :) i think she may be a friend of jo's (the cover star of tigermilk) as well as straun's. :) lisa ----------------------------------------------------------- Get free personalized email at http://www.infospacemail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From the_fear66 at xxx.com Thu Jul 8 12:02:19 1999 From: the_fear66 at xxx.com (Matt Powell) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 11:02:19 GMT Subject: Sinister: The possible future stars of track & field Message-ID: <19990708110220.15784.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello chaps, and a big hello to everyone that I met at the London picnics last weekend. I can only grovel and apologise about my drunken behaviour, but I enjoyed myself and I hope everyone else did too. I just had a wee look at the offending Melody Maker review of Tigermilk that someone mentioned earlier. I think though that it is rather telling that the aforementioned article is in the same edition as the �Battle Of Rock� between the mighty Metallica and the fantabulous Stereophonics. (Irony 110% intended). I suppose when a magazines readers rate Mansun, Catatonia and the Stereophonics above all others what can we expect. Have the details of Track & Field been posted yet? I don�t think so, so I�m going to do that now. Its to be found on Farringdon Rd, which not surprisingly, is near Farringdon station, in a pub called The Betsey Trotwood. It commences at 8pm and finshes at 1am, and they play all sorts of stuff, and maybe this time they might have more than one b&s record. here's hoping. If any of you cheeky scoundrels want any more details of how to get there or anything, email me privately and I�ll try my very best to help. Must dash Matt ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SSharp5210 at xxx.com Thu Jul 8 12:09:17 1999 From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 07:09:17 EDT Subject: Sinister: Legal stuff Message-ID: I see someone plagarised my "Hi poptarts" greeting...I think it's only fair to warn you that it's copyrighted to Steve Cash-Quick Enterprises 1999 and you owe me a fiver every time you use it ;) Steve xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Jul 8 12:23:57 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:23:57 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Emily Pankhurst Spanked My Plank First! Message-ID: <01bec934$5f822680$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Did anyone see the news last night? It was great, there were some Australian sailors who had had something or other hammered up their bumholes to celebrate crossing the equator for the first time. What a fantastic idea! Have Belle and Sebastian crossed the equator yet? I think they should have their musical instruments shoved right up their arses when they eventually cross the equator. Just think, Mick and Sarah could carry on playing their trumpet and melodica without any problem, albeit a bit less tunefully than usual. Richard could make some kind of pathetic percussion noise if he had a drumstick rammed up his rectum, but Messers Murdoch and Jackson would be nothing short of useless with guitars up their respective back passages, unless they had some kind of bum-axe duel, like Blue Oyster Cult used to have. Chris would have serious difficulties walking, never mind anything else, with a Wurlitzer piano lodged between his buttocks, but nothing is impossible, and if he tones up his botty muscles I'm sure he'll be able to manage a tune or two, or a simple riff at least. On second thoughts, this is such a good idea, it'd be a shame to waste it on the equator. I think they should have their instruments hammered up their bottoms with a meat mallet every time they cross the Greenwich Meridian. What better way to promote the new album? I can't see Stuart Murdoch refusing to be interviewed with a bloody big guitar sticking out of his arse, can you? The opportunities for petulance are seriously reduced with a musical instrument up your jacksie. I nearly bought a record yesterday, Rawkus Big Todgers Volume 2, or something like that, but I chickened out because it said "mixed by" DJ someone or other, so I thought it might be one of those Jive Bunny things. I wonder if I did right or wrong? Also, did anyone tape Daltry on "The Bill"? Can anyone tell me what role he was playing, and whether he whacked anyone with a chair leg, like in "McVicar"? Keith's got the soundtrack, you know. "FREEEEEEE ME!" sings Roger, bloodcurdlingly. love from, Sister Disco xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Thu Jul 8 12:41:33 1999 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:41:33 +0100 () Subject: Sinister: it's not goodbye, it's au revoir... Message-ID: well, my email access is being cruelly taken away, and i must leave york for the sunnier (but duller) climes of sussex. goodbye for now. i'll be resubbing from my other address i expect, but not just yet. so my sinister friends, mail me at Archel1978 at aol.com, if you don't want fairies to die. my wandering days are over. (but certainly not my bip-bopping.) big kisses, archel xxx ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth do something pretty while you can don't be afraid rap101 at york.ac.uk skating a pirouette on ice is cool Archel1978 at aol.com http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Thu Jul 8 13:41:17 1999 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:41:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Calling all Blaggers (UK Listees only, I'm afraid) Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB695D6A96@PARK_EX> You know in venues and clubs and things, they have those big "Rock Boxes" with big advertising posters in, well this week they have TIGERMILK posters in (well the ones in Cheltenham do, and from what I've seen they tend to be the same around the country). So go down to your nearest friendly venue and ask if you can have one (the venues get to keep the posters when they are finished with them). I've got mine reserved :) I **might** be able to get a spare one, no promises. I'll post if I can. xoxo CarsmileSteve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From untitled at xxx.com Thu Jul 8 15:43:24 1999 From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 10:43:24 -0400 Subject: Sinister: T-shirt - T-Bag Message-ID: <199907081043_MC2-7C50-2BA7@compuserve.com> T-bag, and T-shirt, humm. There's been talk recently of Looper t-shirts and where to get them, I would like it to be known that I can make Looper t-shirts, or any other t-shirt for that matter. Baseball caps, badges even novelty glow in the dark Lazy Line Painter Jane caps, deer stalker, what sort of bloke do you take me for. The joke is that you can't go deer hunting in a glow in the deer stalker cap. I also do a nice line in comedy his and hers prophylactic's. For that Ice Breaker moment. If you want t-shirts or whatever then write out what you want on paper and send in a letter to me at: 24 Bruntland Avenue Pissedcake Mansions Jerusalem nr Broadmore NOB 666 NORWAY Okay, right +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk Thu Jul 8 17:01:55 1999 From: pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk (Pamela Hutchinson) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:01:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Message to pretty Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From Jeremy.Simon at xxx.com Thu Jul 8 17:03:00 1999 From: Jeremy.Simon at xxx.com (Jeremy.Simon at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:03:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Cassis & William Message-ID: <802567A8.0057A70C.00@gbemea05.emea.jwt.com> My own, dear Sinisterines, A few more little stabs at coherence, then I'm off. Did any of you London listees see the Evening Standard yesterday? My eye was caught by a large photo of a young boy hugging an enormous white furry dog on the front page, with the caption "William Dowell with Cassis, his beloved two-year old Pyrenean mountain dog.. "My goodness", I thought, "does Belle & Sebastian's media infiltration know no bounds?" The story in fact had little to do with Madame Whats-her-name's adorable yarns about big white dogs and boys. It was instead a sad tale of those heartless bureaucrats flying in the face of public outrage and moral decency. But still, it was a great B&S moment, of sorts. On another slightly less bizarre topic, Sandy wrote: >Crushes seems to be the topic of the week and that is the only relevance >that this letter has to this list. I started off by having a massive crush >on this man but when we realised our mutual feelings we started going out >with each other. That was 8 months ago and for all that time I have loved, >cherished and worshipped him because when I fall in love I fall very hard. >Anyway, Late night I saw this "god" coming out of a friends bedroom half >dressed leaving a naked woman lying in bed.I cannot understand why he did >this to me. What have I done wrong to deserve having my tender heart >broken. To Sandy I say, tough break, but in the wise words of D:Ream, "things can only get better". The whole situation did sound rather Seeing Other People, mind. I read somewhere that in those situations it is always the person who breaks someone's heart that ends up worse in the long run (guilt, inner demons and divine justice in the afterlife for wanton cruelty, I would imagine). In the mean time, I can only reiterate, "avoid the sad songs that make you cry". I don't care what you say, Bug, you all know it makes sense :) Am I helping? No, I thought not. Mind you, on reflection there are few problems in life a few grams of hot Tigermilk vinyl action can't solve. And we have but 4 days to wait. Hoo hoo, oh ho, my my. Urrrrr. Must remember to engage brain before posting on list. Oh, before I go, What is a Russia's favourite band? Steppes Sorry J. D. xxxx --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "you take a really sleepy man, Esmé, and he always stands a chance of again becoming a man with all his fac - with all his f-a-c-u-l-t-i-e-s intact" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Thu Jul 8 17:13:32 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:13:32 EDT Subject: Sinister: shallow thoughts? Message-ID: <740d16e3.24b6282c@aol.com> steve said << I find myself thinking over my musical past.Is it just me or does musical >preference get slower as you get older?...Between the ages of 16 and 22 I >would have died for the Pixies,I now hit 25 and I adore B&S.Oh Christ!..when >I hit 30 shall I adore Phil Collins?.....Shoot me now. then dmitri said hmm..i got into the smiths at about 14, mazzy star when i was 16, belle and sebastian at 17, i wonder where this takes me. maybe ill go the opposite way and start listening to rammstein at 20. oh god i hope not >> I used to be much more into punk and harder music in my early teens.. this softening of music as one gets older was thrown in my face the other day when a man came into my store looking for a white zombie video. We were talking about the band and he asked if i was a fan. I said, "erm, well, not really.. i like quieter music, mostly." He asked for specifics, and i told him "Belle and Sebastian". He looked very confused. I suspect he had no idea who they were. Like many Americans. And in fact some Scots, too. A friend was talking to some comrades who were from Glasgow, and she asked them about our little popsters. They said the name "didn't ring a bell". Clever. Travis: thanks for the tape. I got it yesterday, and yours was sent out today. dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Thu Jul 8 17:41:14 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:41:14 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: worms Message-ID: I'm still here. I'm sorry for the stacks of photos, subscription requests, and others things people have mailed me that I haven't responded to yet, and I'm sorry the search on the Sinister WWW page has been out of sorts, a bit like me. I'm fixing it just now (inevitably enough, by removing the "added features" I put in before which broke it) so it should hopefully be back permanently in a couple of hours. I'll work through your mails I've received as I can, but they'll all be tended to with loving care when I get round to them and not chucked in the bin, oh no. Just like God, not a sparrow falls without me noticing, it's just I'm a bit slow actually picking it up, brushing it off and giving it a little worm at the moment. Please keep on being nice to each other and staying Sinister, Honey x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Thu Jul 8 17:46:05 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:46:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Butt arrests cement, wolves crash Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E2275CBE8@server1.HITEntertainment.com> The title is a note I actually wrote today while editing the latest smash hit episode of "Sheeep" (sic). Sometimes I wonder what the hell I'm doing. Bad day. Very bad day. I can't remember the last time I actually believed I was good at my job. Grrr. My boss is impossible, my memory's fuzzy, my office is sweltering and my motivation is a self-defeating paradox. Poor Miss Vicky is still off work with her horrific ankle injury - hours away from gangrene, I reckon - and I don't half envy her. Having never thrown a sickie in my life, I feel darn close to throwing one now, except for the fact that I'd spend the whole day not knowing what to do and feeling pointlessly, faultlessly guilty. Guilt sucks. Mental blocks suck too. So does wondering what other career you could switch to and realising that you don't have a clue what else you could do. I like to think I'm quite anal, so perhaps I could make lists all day (no, on second thoughts I prefer to leave that for my free time). Perhaps I could form a band? Perhaps I could get my four track to work. Perhaps I could email all my lovely friends who I've been ignoring lately. Perhaps I could write, like, proper letters to all my other non-wired friends who I've been ignoring lately. Perhaps I should go for retail therapy. But what do I want? A dishwasher. No, really. My parents say it's a stupid idea - someone living on their own shouldn't have a dishwasher, and perhaps they're right. But you waste valuable loafing time washing up... Perhaps I should become a whiny self-conscious novelist. This is the kind of thing they seem to write on their oh-so-important first page, revealing the pattern for the self-indulgent self-centered self-pity you just know you're going to find within. But I can't write, as I'm rather depressingly finding out. Gosh, I am a moody old bugger today! Just what over 1,000 of you needed. Sorry about that. Desperately thinking of something relevant and witty to say, Mark xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dunca_chap at xxx.com Thu Jul 8 18:17:00 1999 From: dunca_chap at xxx.com (Adam Chapman) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 17:17:00 GMT Subject: Sinister: So long and thanks for all the, erm....? Message-ID: <19990708171705.51613.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello and goodbye people, Well until September at least, because Yeovil College don't like ex-students clutttering up the place, not on an everyday basis anyway, so i am going for the present. Au revoir... Adam p.s. I shall be on holiday in Norfolk in the last week of July and hope to spend a couple of days in Norwich, if anyone is an inhabitant of this place perhaps we could meet up for a drink or two? If this is possible please mail me via; dunca_chap at hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Thu Jul 8 18:55:20 1999 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:55:20 EDT Subject: Sinister: Looper T-shirts Message-ID: To the poor soul who missed her Looper T-shirt: I'm going to the DC show in two weeks so if you want to mail me the money for the shirt and the postage to mail it back to you I will be more than happy to pick one up for you. Just mail me personally and let me know...later Steve C. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Thu Jul 8 23:04:12 1999 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 18:04:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: new york picnic final stuff Message-ID: as this saturday is quickly approaching, i thought you lot might like to know some stuff about the picnic. once again, it's this saturday, july 10th, at one pm. i figure that may be easier for you partiers, aka people who aren't flat broke. so, um, yes. you can get there via the a train or the one. if you take the c, e, or 9 you'll end up in the bronx. which isn't so bad, but there won't be any picnic there. get off at the dyckman street exit. from the a, walk south down broadway, past the big playground and down a block or so till you get to the corner of broadway and dongan street. enter the park there, and you'll notice big green grassy areas. we'll be around there, with a tbwtas flat. if you take the one, walk west along dyckman until you hit broadway, and then just follow the previous directions. ok, that's all i can think of. bring blankets, food, and air conditionning if it's hot. ;) see you saturday! xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu who are magnetic fields? http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ updated 4/26/99 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From holly_woodlawn at xxx.com Fri Jul 9 01:02:03 1999 From: holly_woodlawn at xxx.com (holly woodlawn) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 17:02:03 PDT Subject: Sinister: What ever happened to the striped socks and the 'stick out' braids?.... Message-ID: <19990709000203.16127.qmail@hotmail.com> Eak..... HERE I COME!!! Out of um...the sinister room? ;) Anyways, I WILL keep this short as i am sure many of you don't find Pippi as interesting as i do right now... I have looked everywhere that i can think of that would possibly hold any ORIGINAL copies of Pippy Lonstocking vidoe(s) (Inger Nilsson). Coming up with nothing every time. It might seem a bit silly to some that i am carry it on this far, but if anyone has any idea's of where any or all of the copies are being hidden, i would be the happiest little Holly on the planet! Well until i find something else that's being hidden on me :) Right,... oh! And remember anyone who knows anything please tell me personally , not the list. holly_woodlawn at hotmail.com OK, off i go, back to the empty room... HollyW.~ Mummy, are we allowd to feed the kids in the nursery? :) xx ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aieo at xxx.com Fri Jul 9 04:23:24 1999 From: aieo at xxx.com (Mustafa Banister) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 23:23:24 EDT Subject: Sinister: Trash Can Sinatras Message-ID: <19990709032325.52640.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello everyone~! I was wondering if any of you out there who have any of the singles from the three Trash Can Sinatras albums, would be willing to make me a tape of b-sides in exchange for a tape of the B&S black sessions from France, or of anything else you might like to exchange for. Please let me know! thanks _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From isolation at xxx.net Fri Jul 9 04:43:02 1999 From: isolation at xxx.net (.gibby.) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:43:02 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Not Quite Fancy. Message-ID: <008601bec9bd$253fe960$81288018@oemcomputer.ne.mediaone.net> Grrr.. just got in from work-- my friends band "the crossed out heirs" from Harrisonburg, VA is staying with me for a week, and playing here in Boston twice during... and I had to close my coffee place tonight, so i got home at 11:30 (just now). Everyone is GONE. It's my roommates birthday so i suppose they've all gone out to enjoy themselves... my workmates invited me to go along to the cambridge common for some drinks but that place is so... common. Im all lonely and all. I live with 5 people including the 4 band folks this week and nobody's in... I know im going to end up either playing solitaire or watching my Sister Wendy video collection. :( At any rate. boredom. love<3gibby PS: my previous post, about not being capable of relationships, whatever, talking about crushes and all-- well the one relationship i had seemed to somewhat keep ahold of fell apart after the Marine Research show at the middle east (boston), and continued falling until this morning when it crashed hard. But amongst the rubble of depression and helplessness lies a glimmer of hope and freedom in the realization that now i can persue mystery girls 1, 2, and 3. Though I know not where they hang out, nor dwell, or even if they know my name. blah. OH! I got a new place to spin, and will have the first night August 5th. I will keep everyon posted. -g<3<3.oOo.oOo. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Fri Jul 9 07:22:48 1999 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 02:22:48 EDT Subject: Sinister: Slide rulers (not a dick joke)... Message-ID: I saw Fountains of Wayne tonight in DC and it was truly incredible. They have the most energetic and brillant live show I've ever been blessed with attending and once they got appropriately liquored up they were also some of the funniest bastards. In between songs the lead singer broke into an impromptu version of "How Soon Is Now" and actually did a half decent Morrissey impersonation, then they covered a Cars song in the breakdown of a song awhile later. They played a brand new song about a woman who is part of a magic act (she repeatedly gets sawed in half) who becomes fed up and escapes only to realize she can't make a living doing anything else so she comes back. It was hilarious, but maybe thats one of those things you have to be there to appreciate. Afterwards they invited us into the VIP lounge (much to the chagrin of the club security) and I asked Adam (the bassist, and also the guy who wrote the theme song to that wonderful movie "That Thing You Do") whether he was a B&S fan and he professed to love IYFS but he said he was kind of cool on TBWTAS. He said he loved Struan's voice and that he thought he was an incredible songwriter and he started to say something else as well but the club security kicked us out so the thought remained unfinished. I'm not sure how popular FOW are in the UK but evidenced by the turnout tonight (they sold out the entire 900 capacity club) they seem to be getting quite big over here. They're a Weezer-ish pop foursome and they kick ass or something...well I'm exhausted. Later Steve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Fri Jul 9 10:53:19 1999 From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael Barrett) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 10:53:19 +0100 Subject: Fw: Message from Sinister: bad WORDS or WOMEN content in your message Message-ID: <007e01bec9f0$e0b8e420$b62fc22b@karoo> > > > > I just got my copy of tigermilk delivered to work, and when I pulled out = > > the LP my heart started beating faster than that time the girl with the = > > big boobs was stretching in front of me in the gym. > > > > I'm a grown-up now, and I really don't think its suitable behaviour to = > > be getting all excited over a silly little record, but it felt good = > > finally seeing it.=20 > > > > The question is, however, do I replace the hissy version on my MD with = > > the new one? It might seem silly, but my instinct is to stick with the = > > one I've spent the last year listening to. > > > > Anyway, back to work... > > > > Michael +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Fri Jul 9 13:56:41 1999 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 13:56:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Why don't you go back outside and talk to trees, or whatever it is you DO In-Reply-To: <740d16e3.24b6282c@aol.com> References: <740d16e3.24b6282c@aol.com> Message-ID: Querida Sinister, I'm listening to the best compilation of crappy songs wot I got off the internet EVER. At the moment its TRAGEDY! by the hedonistic Rock Bitches STEPS - and I think the next song is The National Gallery doing a musical interpretation of the Paul Klee painting "Self Portrait". It's wonderful. "Can you trult paint yourseeeeeelf, when so affected by unrelated matterrrrrrrrss....." If anyone wants to get together to form a band to do musical interpretations of the paintings of Damien Hirst - you're wierd. And probably will do it as well. Dmitiri who's name I think I spelt rong, > hmm..i got into the smiths at about 14, mazzy star when i was 16, belle > and sebastian at 17, i wonder where this takes me. maybe ill go the > opposite way and start listening to rammstein at 20. oh god i hope not Hey, thats NOTHING. I listened to Pulp & Manics, at 15, Manics and Belle & Sebastian at 16, Belle & Sebastian, and Freedesign at 17, and now I've just turned 18, I found myself at the HMV sale going: "Oh wow Astrud Gilberto I *have* to get this!" followed three seconds later by: "Once upon a time in the west!!!" My friends say "Who the fuck is Ennio Morriconne? Are you buying theme tunes to Cowboys and Indians films???" I mumble shamefacedly..." But its good...."... I sit down at home with my purchases and reflect upon my purchase of a cd which says "Some great Jazz and Bossa Nova classics". I blame this purchase entirely on most of you lot. I'd still be a wild young punk rock kid if you lot hadn't said "ooh listen to this poncey bossa nova stuff", and I listened to it and thought "dammit its actually good..." If I find myself buying a slow foxtrot cd I'll have to shoot myself. I have noticed that my love of Welsh nonsense has spanned all ages. By the way - have you noticed that the last two "genres" invented by the NME - I cite 'Skunk Rock' and 'Nu Psychedelia' have BOTH been spearheaded by Super Furry Animals? Jolly good shows chaps. If they can spearhead the "Noo-Ferret-Wave of Drills and Bass" I'll have to... consider civilsation ended. What the fuck is "drill'n'bass" anyway! By the way - Astruds version of Girl From Ipenamanaamana I think MUST have been drastically re-worked on the (1.99) compilation that I bought. Cos its crap. It's got a picture of Astrud on the front wearing a bikini - she must have just got out from having a swim in the sea. Thats the wild spirit of untamed bossa nova I supose. I hope she didn't have a piddle in the sea. Urgh - think of how many people must have wee-d in the sea over the years. Urgh. I bet its nothing but piss. Urrrrrrgh. When I grow up, I'm either going to have no kids at all cos I'm petrified of the things, or I'm going to have loads, so I can teach them to sing in harmony and we can be like the Beach Boys. Except without the psychical and mental abuse and the breakdowns and the drugs and the booze. Perhaps. I dig the harmonies, dude. byebye, Sarah xxx Droolz - for the kiddies! http://www.Droolz.ukf.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Fri Jul 9 17:59:59 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 12:59:59 EDT Subject: Sinister: was that a quote from a movie? Message-ID: <7c269c07.24b7848f@aol.com> sarah wowed the multitudes* by saying *me << My friends say "Who the fuck is Ennio Morriconne? Are you buying theme tunes to Cowboys and Indians films???" I mumble shamefacedly..." But its good...."... >> Ennio morriconne IS good. I've got several albums, and if anyone doesn't know what his music sounds like, i invite you to hear this. *ahem* aiyiiiiiiiyiyi.. wa wa wa. aiyiiiiiyiyi! wa wa wa wa wa! no, really. It was supposed to be the theme song to The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. Very catchy stuff. He also did the soundtrack to a little known Orson Wells movie called Blood and Guns, in which the bandit "TJ" rapes and pillages his way across Mehico. In the name of freedom, of course. definitely a classic, with the trademark surprise ending that's just now catching on in the Indie film market. then sarah said: << I hope she didn't have a piddle in the sea. Urgh - think of how many people must have wee-d in the sea over the years. Urgh. I bet its nothing but piss. Urrrrrrgh.>> How'd you think it got salty? I mean, the rivers that feed the sea are all freshwater. It's from eons of swimmers thinking "it's so much easier than walking back on shore. I'll just...ahhhh! it's very warm" etc. Plus the fish. Nasty buggers. They don't care where they void their fishy little bowels. I'm trying to include at least one disgusting comment that is completely unnecessary in every email. I think I have succeeded PS on a serious note, it' s good to see our favorite listmummy out of his sarcophagus. I was starting to worry a bit, but it looks like he's out terrorising archaeologists once more. dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eng98ajo at xxx.se Fri Jul 9 18:08:02 1999 From: eng98ajo at xxx.se (Anna J) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 19:08:02 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk Tape Support Group Message-ID: Michael wrote: > > The question is, however, do I replace the hissy version on my MD with = > > the new one? It might seem silly, but my instinct is to stick with the = > > one I've spent the last year listening to. I've been thinking about this too. I just got my new Tigermilk too (hurrah!) and ironically I'm sitting here listening to my old tape. Ok, so it might have something to do with the fact that I'm sitting in a computer room with a perfect stranger across the room who might not appreciate me playing B&S too much (oh and there's no CD player here), but I'm feeling kind of reluctant to abandon the tape. Imagine the thousands of tapes (and MD:s and stuff) that will fall out of work the next couple of weeks, replaced by shining CD and vinyl records. What's this going to do to all the poor tapes? It must be sort of like when an only child gets a little sister or brother who suddenly gets all of the parents' attention and goes to bed crying at night because no one remembered to say good night and everybody is cuddling the wrinkly baby. I think it calls for a Tigermilk Tape Support Group (must have some catchy abbreviation though). Therapy, people! Group discussions for the former champions of tapes to overcome the drama of suddenly being reduced to dust-collecting bits of plastic. Or, we could make them see it as retirement from a duty well-performed and send them off to Florida or some place to spend the rest of their lives sipping purple drinks with umbrellas, playing golf whenever they get an empty moment and talking about the old days when they got to see the world, travelling across continents in small brown parcels. What do you think? Alternatively someone could collect as many tapes as possible and create a Tigermilk tape statue in the memory of all the tapes that so bravely served their task whilst needed, fighting for the equality of those who didn't have 250 pounds for a proper copy. All sinistereens could make suggestions to what shape the statue should be, and whoever thinks of the best idea gets to be swamped with old tapes and make the damn thing, which later could be unveiled at a grand ceremony with Stuart M (possibly wearing a kilt made out of cassettes) cutting one of those nice red ribbons. I bet the tapes are hoping for the Florida alternative though. Or maybe someone else has a much better suggestion for the fate of the cassettes? Go on. :) Ok, I'll shut up now and go home and listen to the CD anyway. Not until I've had a good talk with tape though, so that it doesn't feel neglected. I might even bring it down the pub and buy it a drink as way of saying thanks. Cheerio, Anna :) P.S. Stephane - thank you very much for the photos and tape I got in the mail! Sorry I'm not emailing you personally to say merci, but I will as soon as I get a chance, I am in a bit of a hurry right now. :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris.jones at xxx.uk Fri Jul 9 13:04:40 1999 From: chris.jones at xxx.uk (Chris Jones) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 13:04:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilking Message-ID: <199907091752.SAA05249@smtp.saqnet.co.uk> chris.jones at saqnet.co.uk http://www.saqnet.co.uk/users/saxtead/chris.htm Wow! It's here! I actually have my copy of Tigermilk already! Did anyone else get theirs this morning? I must one of an elite few to own all three B&S albums on CD at this moment in time. The album's great. So far my favourite track is Expectations. Chris Jones. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Fri Jul 9 18:59:34 1999 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 10:59:34 PDT Subject: Sinister: I'm shallow but only on the surface Message-ID: <19990709175938.83536.qmail@hotmail.com> A big hello to all intelligent life forms everywhere. And to everyone else out there, the secret is to bang the rocks together, guys... My roadtrip for the fourth of July was wonderful as expected. Arizona is lovely this time of year. Especially if you're planning a trip to the core of the sun and want to acclimate yourself to the heat first. My friend that I went with favorite group is also the Pixies - so we listened to all of their stuff. Very nice. Of course, that is where our musical tastes end. I like his music but he has no tolerance for mine. In fact, he despises Looper and calls them Lupus. Not very amiable of him, eh? I also have the same fears as your friend and mine steve when he said, "I find myself thinking over my musical past.Is it just me or does musical preference get slower as you get older? Between the ages of 16 and 22 I would have died for the Pixies,I now hit 25 and I adore B&S... When I hit 30 shall I adore Phil Collins? Shoot me now." I've always been a die hard Pixies fan and am sluggishly moving onto full fledged allegiance to Belle and Sebastian. I still like the hard stuff though - so maybe I'm not completely deteriorating. Though, I want y'all to promise that if any of my e-mails start reflecting the beginnings of a like for Phil Collins, Michael Bolton, or Kenny G - just torture me. Lock me in a room with nothing except for a big screen repeatedly showing mento commericals with the sound blasting giving me nothing to eat but top ramen for the rest of my life. Anything - anything but becoming a Micheal Bolton fan. It'd be worse than liking Rex Manning. Sexxyyy Rexxxyy. Ack! Shock me shock me shock me with that deviant behavior. Heart-broken Sandra sounds like she is going through some torture of her own with "Last night i saw this "god" coming out of a friends bedroom half dressed leaving a naked woman lying in bed.I cannot understand why he did this to me. What have I done wrong to deserve having my tender heart broken." Big hugs to you Sandra. If I were there, I'd bring ice cream, chocolate, and a box of kleenex over so you could talk about it and we could trash him. Say how he dhas a old black heart which pump not blood like yours or mine, but rather a thick, vomitous oil that oozes through to his rotten veins and clots in hispea-sized brain which becomes the cause of his Nazi-esque patterns of uncaring and violent behavior. Then everytime I saw him I would give the scum bag withering looks. But I'm not there so I'll just send out my thoughts to you. And give the un-helpful words that time puts everything into perspective. I also had a crush fall through last week. Too bad he didn't fall through a 10 story window or something. Actually, I'm not too terribly disappointed. I just now know why they are indeed called "crushes". All I know is that rejection kills. Disappointment only maims. But rejection slaughters. Well there's my pithy thought for the day. May gypsies camp in your stomach and their bears do the Katchozki in your liver... erh I mean have a sparkling day! Laura Llew (i figure that if I change the way I sign my posts each time that no one will notice my subtle ways to take over the world starting with this list. wait. i guess this isn't very strategic, eh?) _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eculb at xxx.com Fri Jul 9 19:44:57 1999 From: eculb at xxx.com ('Beeding Gums' JaMeS) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 19:44:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: '...i hate hostipals...' Message-ID: <002101beca3b$24e018e0$e7e7abc3@jhkng> ...to quote Baldrick. I love Blackadder. One of the best comedy creations ever, methinks. Ooooww!!! ooh, the pain, the pain!! So ive just been to hospital and had my wisdom teeth removed- my gums are bleeding and swollen and my tongue and lips are numb. Im waiting in hope that i DO get feeling back, i was rather shocked when the doc said there was a 1 in 500 chance of having a permanently numb liip/tongue; doubly shocked when my friend whos having her wisdom teeth out said that her doc said the odds were closer to 1 in 10. YIKES!! dont do this to me please!!! I havent had the opportunity to fully use my lips or my tongue yet, it would be just my luck to come out of this with no feelings in them... ..Hooray!!! Could Honey/ or anyone give me, in the style of Lard, give me a big WAAAAAAP!! as i just found out that i passed my exams!! Yay me! just scraped a 2:1 average. not too bad i suppose. B&S content- havent received my copy of Tigermilk yet, fingers crossed it'll come tomorrow. Also, am wondering if anyone is going to the Annexe in London on Monday for the tigermilk promotion thingy. i dont know anyone whos going and was wondering if anyone from the list is planning on going. though if i did go i probably wouldnt be much good as i wouldnt be able to converse with anyone properly.... Tiger hugs, JaMeS :) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Hall/7789 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Win.Sanchez at xxx.com Fri Jul 9 20:00:11 1999 From: Win.Sanchez at xxx.com (Win Sanchez) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 15:00:11 -0400 Subject: Sinister: '...i hate hostipals...' Message-ID: <933175F4929DD111ACF700805FC19659CFD5BF@exchange-srv1.wkap.com> Hate to tell you about this, but you will know in a day or so anyway... I was one of those lucky few who lost some feeling when I had my wisdom teeth out a few years ago. It was generally a hellish experience. First, I was alergic to the perkoset they gave me for the pain, so on top of being swollen, bleeding, with a mouth packed with gauze, I was also nausious. Then, after a day or so, I started eating again, and was surprised to find my tounge bleeding, as I had been biting it, and had not felt anything. So, back to the doctor for tests and such. Basically, he grabbed the tip of my tounge with gauze wrapped fingers, yanked it out of my mouth, and started poking it with sharp things. I was to cry out when it hurt. Only it didn't hurt much. Turns out I had lost much sensation on one half of my tounge. Doctor said that most would come back, sometime within a year, and thankfully, some did. It still gets alittle wierd now and then, but it functions normally still... It is right around then that I got into the Magnetic Fields, one of the best lyricists ever, if I must say. I remember rinsing my mouth with salt water to, "All the Umbrellas in London". Thats all for now.. -Winn -----Original Message----- From: 'Beeding Gums' JaMeS [mailto:eculb at xxx.com] Sent: Friday, July 09, 1999 2:45 PM To: sinister at Majordomo.net Subject: Sinister: '...i hate hostipals...' ...to quote Baldrick. I love Blackadder. One of the best comedy creations ever, methinks. Ooooww!!! ooh, the pain, the pain!! So ive just been to hospital and had my wisdom teeth removed- my gums are bleeding and swollen and my tongue and lips are numb. Im waiting in hope that i DO get feeling back, i was rather shocked when the doc said there was a 1 in 500 chance of having a permanently numb liip/tongue; doubly shocked when my friend whos having her wisdom teeth out said that her doc said the odds were closer to 1 in 10. YIKES!! dont do this to me please!!! I havent had the opportunity to fully use my lips or my tongue yet, it would be just my luck to come out of this with no feelings in them... ..Hooray!!! Could Honey/ or anyone give me, in the style of Lard, give me a big WAAAAAAP!! as i just found out that i passed my exams!! Yay me! just scraped a 2:1 average. not too bad i suppose. B&S content- havent received my copy of Tigermilk yet, fingers crossed it'll come tomorrow. Also, am wondering if anyone is going to the Annexe in London on Monday for the tigermilk promotion thingy. i dont know anyone whos going and was wondering if anyone from the list is planning on going. though if i did go i probably wouldnt be much good as i wouldnt be able to converse with anyone properly.... Tiger hugs, JaMeS :) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Hall/7789 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SSharp5210 at xxx.com Fri Jul 9 20:08:23 1999 From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 15:08:23 EDT Subject: Sinister: Reminder to Scots. Message-ID: <6f9466d8.24b7a2a7@aol.com> Hi poptarts. Just a reminder to the Scots on the list (Yeah,all 13 of us) The B&S prog is on tonight so set your VCRs.I'm now heading of to T in the park,which should be nice.5 smelly unwashed people in a tent.Fun! Bye bye for the weekend. Steve the sunny natured fool. p.s Not the American Steve who was on earlier though. p.p.s Can I just call myself Steve S and be done with it?..Please? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trarvild at xxx.se Fri Jul 9 20:59:06 1999 From: trarvild at xxx.se (Katarina Karlsson) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 21:59:06 +0200 Subject: Sinister: the day I bought tigermilk, for a litle more than a t-shirt Message-ID: <199907092000.WAA17579@mb07.swip.net> Hello I had one of those good B&S days today. Firsti read an article about Belle and Sebastian in POP in the libraryand then when I spend some time in a music shop when I were waiting for my bus when I heard that thay played she knows she's losing it, and I slowly realised that it ment tigermilk! I went home and celebrated it with a Tigermilk juggling to the euphoria just befor totalexhaustion. And now my arms aches.... of happines. B&S make so fantastic good creative juggling music. Are there any other here that likes to juggle to such music? Try it, it is fantastic. And a revenge for all the basket and footbal in school that told the girl with ball phobia that I was unabel to ever learn to control balls. My tigermilk tape dosn't have to wory about this cd. It will always have a loved place in my walkman on buses and other good tigermilk places were i can´'t listen to the cd. But mabee Anna can make a statue of a statue of off big we rule the school letters and put it on some bus stop. Good night Katarina +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From glawler at xxx.ie Fri Jul 9 23:35:29 1999 From: glawler at xxx.ie (Gary Lawler) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 23:35:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Doth thou desire the power? In-Reply-To: <933175F4929DD111ACF700805FC19659CFD5BF@exchange-srv1.wkap. com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990709233529.007ba7a0@gpo.iol.ie> My my, I have a bit of spare time. That's the problem with working for the summer: it might be providing me with a little extra cash, but I think I'd prefer to laze about like I was able to do a few years ago and read this list instead (which I haven't been able to do in a while . . . grrr). I didn't pre-order Tigermilk, but I'm sure that there'll be plenty available in Virgin or somewhere when it's made available here (which should be about the 13th . . . all I have to do now is come with a good reason for not turning up for work so I can run into town to get a copy :-)) Reading about other people's crushes kind of got me remembering about that one I had (WARNING: self-indulgent ranting ahead! Reverse course!) when I saw a girl that I had a kiddie crush on at the train station a while back. Very odd sensation, a sudden *snap!* of recognition and I know it's someone that I last saw about 7 years ago and they still looked great. Think she recognised me, but I didn't say anything to her anyway, which is an odd thing to do but made perfect sense at the time. I also had something to say about the dentist which I would write if I didn't feel this nagging guilt at the back of my head about wasting so much bandwidth with this as it is :-) Gary Lawler ----------------------------------------------------------- ICQ UIN: 11115268 AIM: seclite369 In the CD Player: "Transient Random-Noise . . .", Stereolab ----------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From drsquid at xxx.com Sat Jul 10 04:25:49 1999 From: drsquid at xxx.com (Alex Davies) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:25:49 -0400 Subject: Sinister: zero friction racing lubricant and shoutcast Message-ID: <024a01beca83$e7d253c0$7e157018@hnsn1.on.wave.home.com> firstly a link to an excellent shoutcast server http://the-sweeney.dynip.com/ lost of B&s on playlist including some live stuff I am currently wading through the 200+ messages that i have declined to read for the past few weeks and now I have decided to tackle the task and I am find Sinister a very odd mailing list.....probably representative and B&S fans in general. On most other mailing lists the post are breif, often inflammatory and generally nothing seems to serious (ie Modlists) however a lot of post here are almost confessional...dear Diary stuff. It's odd how many people are under the assumption that being a B&S fan means we all share the same mindset and are all Soul Mates, which I find vastly amusing. Me thinks perhaps it is because of the median age of listees, late teens, early 20's. hmmmmmm not that I am really complaing too much I find many of these posts very amusing.......I especially am finding Lesley J Miller's contiuning 'artgirl' story good. Its funny the whole Smiths thing coz there is the mention of the music differences between B&S and them and one listees mention of the cult of personality surrounding them. I am sad to inform you that the same myth is being bulit up around B&S. It is not built upon the physical look of one person etc the whole Morrissey theing but the sense of community...ie Smiths fans feeling the same, the sense of depression, outsideness etc is very much the same with B&S fans, just look at the confessional output here and think about it. The 80's 90's comparison is interesting because while in the 80's i think it was more acceptable the idoltorize (sp?) a singer, as in the Moz, but today young people are so concerned with not appearing to like anything at all, the whole dissaffected thing, that B&S's lack of focus on who they are, the 3rd person song writing, lack of publicity, meshs perfectly with the 90's.....and sadly I believe this is being carefully orchestrated........... I am not critcizing B&S I still like their music but I think many fans really have to see the reality of this movement, which after all is still based on a commercial, pop, money making band. umm did any of my rambling meld together into something conherent perhaps I should write and clearer essay on my thoughts Alex +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pythia at xxx.com Sat Jul 10 04:35:42 1999 From: pythia at xxx.com (Laurel Girvan) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 23:35:42 -0400 Subject: Sinister: NYC picnic news Message-ID: there's been a slight change of plan in the picnic location. you're still welcome to meet miss minka at her assigned spot at the bottom of a big hill, but we've moved the picnic blanket location to the TOP of the big hill. if you don't want to climb the stairs up the big hill, you can take the A line train, get off at 190th street (and overlook terrace), and proceed north on fort washington avenue into fort tryon park. as you promenade through the park, you'll approach the cloisters museum (ya can't miss it, kids). us lazy folks (ben, this means you) will be staked out with our blue picnic blanket and our soccer ball in some grassy spot on the near side (south west side, says my walking compass) of the cloisters building. and, to increase your picnic-ing pleasure, we have an endorsement from the gay universe cruise spot, giving it a 4 out of 5 for safety and a 4.5 (!!) out of 5 for "Action," whatever that means. if you show it to your mum i'm sure she'll explain everything. (but take a tip from me: don't go through the park when you're on your own, etc. does this count as "living the songs?" i love you all, laurel *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From glawler at xxx.ie Sat Jul 10 12:46:39 1999 From: glawler at xxx.ie (Gary Lawler) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 12:46:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: zero friction racing lubricant and shoutcast In-Reply-To: <024a01beca83$e7d253c0$7e157018@hnsn1.on.wave.home.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990710124639.0083dd40@gpo.iol.ie> At 23:25 09/07/99 -0400, you wrote: >On most other mailing lists the post are breif, often inflammatory and >generally nothing seems to serious (ie Modlists) however a lot of post here >are almost confessional...dear Diary stuff. It's odd how many people are >under the assumption that being a B&S fan means we all share the same >mindset and are all Soul Mates, which I find vastly amusing. Me thinks >perhaps it is because of the median age of listees, late teens, early 20's . . . ie Smiths fans feeling the same, the >sense of depression, outsideness etc is very much the same with B&S fans, >just look at the confessional output here and think about it. But it's not just a Sinister thing, it happens in loads of places - I mean, I've seen message boards on RPG sites which have managed to develop a strong sense of community, and after a while quite personal, confessional things were also posted . . . I mean no, we don't all share the same mindset, but maybe one or two of us do, and posting such things here is a neat way of finding those one or two other similarly-minded people who are also subscribed to the group. and sadly I believe this is being carefully orchestrated........... >I am not critcizing B&S I still like their music but I think many fans >really have to see the reality of this movement, which after all is still >based on a commercial, pop, money making band. Perhaps unsuprisingly, I have to disagree :-) Like in the previous example, the product (in this case, B&S records) brought people together, but wasn't what makes them stay together (blimey, I'm sounding a little wishy-washy here). *stops before he starts lapsing into clichés . . . like he hasn't already :-)* -- Gary Lawler ---------------- ICQ: 11115268 AIM: seclite369 ---------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Sun Jul 11 01:53:01 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 20:53:01 EDT Subject: Sinister:a question for those at jeepster Message-ID: <7158749a.24b944ed@aol.com> all you listees cover your ears and eyes: this is for the folks at Jeepster. Sorry, but I don't have their email address A quick question: a friend of mine is coming to Glasgow sometime next week.. would it be possible for him to come by and see Jeepster, take pictures, whatever? or would that be an interference? Also, I got a copy of the B&S documentary; do you object to me making copies of it if I only charge what it cost me to duplicate it? I had to pay a company to transfer it from PAL to VHS... email me privately, not the list, since I am sure they're quite tired of this sort of thing by now. apologies to the listmummy for abuse of the list dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koogy at xxx.uk Sun Jul 11 12:19:11 1999 From: koogy at xxx.uk (andrew dean) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 12:19:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: where the clouds are made of candyfloss... Message-ID: <37887DAF.BE41D04E@clara.co.uk> um, several people have asked but i don't think anybody's replied. here's the camber sands set list. the highlighted things are the stuff radio 1 played the other day: * slow graffiti * seeing other people * dog on wheels * wrong girl century of fakers i know where the summer goes * winter woofkie (/wooskie, whatever) simple things * if you're feeling sinister * i don't love anyone * paper boat * the boy with the arab strap * photo jenny landslide * lazy line painter jane the kids are alright seems a bit odd that they left out the two highlights (landslide, the kids...). it also struck me as strange that whilst they cut out most of the between song banter or gaps both of stu d's introductions were left in. if anybody wants a minidisc copy of this then i can do one for you, just email and we'll sort something out (it'll probably mean sending me a blank md and return postage). also, my bowlie photos are now on my website home.clara.net/koogy/photos. i don't think i've mentioned these before. i've certainly not had any complaint from trousers yet which makes me think he hasn't seen them. there aren't any of the band, just the sinister massive. oh, and all 4(?) eps are currently being sold in the '3 for 10 pound' offer thing in my local virgin store (and i guess all the others around the country) so you can go and buy them if you don't already have them. actually, 3 for 10 quid isn't that much of a bargain but at least they are available. go and buy them kids, rather than getting some strange boy to tape them for you. this way you get the proper thing and the band gets to eat (or buy more star wars merchandise, whatever) oh, vaguely related note: there's a thing on bbc2 on fridays called 'Songwriter's Circle' and this week it had john cale, chrissie hynde and nick cave on it, all doing songs acoustically. was a bit self indulgent actually, maybe they ought to rename it 'Songwriter's Circle Jerk' (boom, tish!). anyway, next week it's chip taylor, nick lowe and jimmy web. oh, news from the LA gig was that stu d seems to be enjoying it. 'he was happy and chatty, nothing like he usually is'. no news as to if he's still wearing that same t-shirt though. maybe, like einstein, he has a whole stack of identical outfits so he doesn't have to waste time in the morning wondering what to wear. night, andy (off topic wittering follows) john, did you get the video? beth posted it from work and that usually takes a couple of weeks longer than normal. (btw, it's another line from 'white horses', i've used it before...) starry: >Why don't you go back outside and talk to trees, or whatever it is you DO dexter's laboratory, "deedeemensional" and i claim my 5 pound prize... 8) >What the fuck is "drill'n'bass" anyway! i think the phrase was dreamt up during an aphex twin interview in some music paper. it basically means the stuff he does, twisted techno bollocks, anything that sounds like a cross between techno and tools basically (the clue was in the question as les dawson always used to say on blankety blank). see also: mu-ziq, squarepusher. i could be wrong. been back from LA for about two weeks now (but this is my first post since). apologies to whoever mailed suggesting we meet up but i left hours after my last post and didn't check my inbox again until i got back. have spent those last two weeks trying not to spend any money and am having a miserable time of it, stuck in the house most of the day eating bread and water*. i ought to get out more. so if anyone has any, oh, HOUSE WARMING PARTIES in, i don't know, the SOUTH EAST LONDON area, and want to invite me then feel free... *(but, to be honest, not only bread and water.) went to palm springs whilst i was there, girlfriend's high school reunion and all that. it was only june and it was already 110' there (44' in english). and people choose to live there, retire there even. why? (in england people start complaining the minute it gets above 20'). actually the timing of my trip was all wrong - having suffered geri spice plugging her new lp in england before i left i got there to find that she was plugging her new lp on every chat show going in america. i get back and have to suffer ricky martin all over english tv having suffered him all over american tv. ditto all the star wars episode 1 stuff (to spoil it for the english people who won't see it until friday - they all die in the end, ewan, the small kid, liam, darth maul, princess armadillo, all 'father ted') and, i'm sure, in a few weeks i'll be bombarded with 'do i make you horny baby?' all over again. argh. i completely missed the riot in london and the results of the european elections though so if anyone can fill me in on the details... missed the 2nd and 3rd episodes of that sunday night channel 4 program on modern art too, the others have been excellent (lots of footage of my favourite painters, er, painting. didn't even know that rothko chapel existed until i saw it on there...) and i'd like to borrow the two i haven't seen if anyone has them on tape. cheers. that oasis advert pisses me off. the one with the dolphin impersonation in it. i don't know why. i much prefered frutopia and the cocteau's backed kaleidoscope adverts were so much better than 'are you looking at my bird?'. the paprika pringles advert gets up my nose too. 'is it that flavour?' pah. oh, dawson's creek, must dash... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From punkboy at xxx.uk Sun Jul 11 18:05:46 1999 From: punkboy at xxx.uk (Stuart Flanagan) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 18:05:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: My Life Stories Message-ID: <001701becbbf$9ee2ac40$fd37883e@v7x7j9> Greetings to you all, Bizarrely, although IÂ’ve been on the list for quite some time, this is my first post. So IÂ’d probably better say that thereÂ’s no B&S content ! Since there are periodic literary discusions here, I thought IÂ’d ask a little advice. In Dillons bookshop at the moÂ’ thereÂ’s a special offer of 3 biographies/autobiographies for the price of 2. IÂ’m a bit undecided as to which ones to plump for, so I was wondering if anybody could help me narrow down my shortlist ? HereÂ’s what I like the look of... ALAN BENNET - Writing Home CHRISTINE BIELENBERG - The Past Is Myself DIRK BOGARDE - Short Walk From Harrods ROALD DAHL - Boy/Going Solo ANNE FRANK - Diary Of A Young Girl ALEC GUINNESS - My Name Escapes Me BLAKE MORRISON - And When Did You Last See Your Father ? FRANK MUIR - Kentish Lad KENNETH WILLIAMS - Diaries If anybodyÂ’s read any of these and can recommend them - can you let me know ? For the record hereÂ’s some life stories IÂ’d recommend : JEAN-DOMINQUE BAUBY - The Diving Bell And The Butterfly STEPHEN FRY - Moab Is My Washpot HELEN HANFF - 84 Charing Cross Road RUTH PICARDIE - Before I Say Goodbye Thanks Stuart +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sun Jul 11 18:04:24 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 13:04:24 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Shouldn't That be Tigressmilking?, or Tigersuckling?, Amongst Udder Thoughts Message-ID: <199907111304_MC2-7C8C-6F97@compuserve.com> Hi Sinistaurs (& Select journalists), Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzip. That's the sound of me undoing my cardie before I sit down to type this. Maybe if I get carried away, & if you listen carefully, you'll be able to hear the sound of me bouncing up & down in my chair later ;) What a silent, stealthy, Sinister weekend we're having, at least for a digest receiver. I guess everybody is too busy living, or maybe listening to their copies of Tigermilk. Which, in between colouring Pam's hair, disinfecting the cat's litter tray, stuffing my fat face with every different kind of cake, (& trying not to get my weekend chores mixed up!) is what I've been doing. Oh, & thanks to the Jeepster Peeps concerned for keeping their word & getting Sally & me our copies on Friday morning. Mmmm. Wierd. Listening to a legal copy of Tigermilk. What's the difference? Out: that slight buzz from listening to something slightly exclusive which took a little effort to blag a copy of, crackles, & that big scratch in We Rule The School. In: blimey, lots of things! Little piano parts I never heard before, loads of vocal parts on Mary Jo (& Stuart's Michael Caine impression), actually being able to make out the words of the Rip van Winkle extract Isobel reads, hearing Richard's drum bits (he uses brushes a lot, doesn't he?), a cover picture, printed lyrics, a tanktop, piano black CD case base. Oh, & its disappointing to find out that Struan doesn't really sing "the centre of my so-called penis" in My Wandering Days Are Over. A pretty amazing record, considering the the circumstances in which it was produced. I already like more of the songs on it than the half dozen I rated before :) especially I Don't Love Anyone, (although that started at The Bowlie, seeing the passion with which it was delivered.) "Kids From Stow" - that sounds good. Could be the title of a TV series, or a film. Surprised to see that its JPRCD007: why not 0 or -1? Hope that Mr Joe Todger* was found so that he could get his royalties or whatever. Thats All, Folks. I promise to try & be less on-topic next time :) Bye, David Moore Chelmsford, UK * I know, I'm really sorry, but sometimes I just can't stop myself. Time of life. I apologise. Profusely. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Sun Jul 11 19:20:18 1999 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 19:20:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ear Confection Recordings Message-ID: Hello all, I've had a dream. I'm going to be the new Richard Branson, and by that I do not mean a bearded git who flies hot air balloon 9/10th's of the way round the world. No, I am going to start a record company. The above mentioned "Ear Confection Recordings". It shall be a record company for the next century, all songs will be on a web site in real audio for people to listen to and then maybe send off or a demo tape or something like that. Unfortunately, I am conceivably the most idle bastard in the world so I may need others help with this so if anyone's interested please mail me. First off does anyone know a good (free/ cheap) WWW hoster that has a real audio server and provides a good amount of web space? Other help needed will be Logo design (I got thrown out of art at an early age for throwing paper maché around), A&R (I can't trust my taste I have most Jefferson Airplane albums and no 70's Who) and lots of other stuff I haven't thought of yet. You can start a virtual career in the music biz at Ear Confection. Or borrow a 4-track and get your lovely songs heard. Yes, it shall be. Before I go and have a nice lie down after thinking too much I'd like to thank Mark C for his lovely comments the other day i.e. "Martin, you're one of us, mate...". I felt all warm inside. If it was a cunning ploy to make me go to Tigermilking next month it worked and I'll see you there. I'll also probably see anyone at the Tigermilk release thingy tomorrow in my first outing as a record label boss. I'll have a new swagger to my stride. Te ra, Martin Ear Confection Recordings +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlearsonist at xxx.com Mon Jul 12 00:04:35 1999 From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 16:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: megan rules the school Message-ID: <19990711230435.3951.rocketmail@web128.yahoomail.com> hey, ho, sinister... megan rules the school for having called an impromptu (sort of) nyc picnic for yesterday afternoon... after a slightly awkward moment when emanuel and i tried to pick each other out of the crowd at grand central station (um, just look for the Other indie kid), we were on our way to the cloisters -- beautiful old church-y things in a museum, and pretty grounds... we took the soft and fluffy elevator from the subway to the grounds: soft and fluffy b/c there were all these pictures of kittens and puppies pasted on the walls... how "belle & sebastian" (since that is now an official adjective). unbeknownst to us, laurel & Her Boy (whose name slips me, i'm sorry!) picked us out as sinister folk in the elevator, but didn't say anything... which is why emanuel and i wandered about the grounds until we saw megan and mick carrying a belle&sebby poster. i'd never have seen it, but Eagle-Eye Emanuel spotted it right away. anyway, it was neat to meet the few that showed. and funny to find out that mick mcmick is NOT a 35-year-old man, but a mere boy of 20, younger than myself -- sorry to blow yr cover! he gets major props for digging Used Kids, the best record store in columbus, possibly in all of ohio, possibly in all of the united states... :) la la la... as the picnic wound down, laurel & Her Boy went off to watch the women's soccer team (who, incidentally, kicked some ass), megan and mick went home to be poor, and the ever charming emanuel took me for a beer down in the village. afterwards, when we'd parted, i had an hour to kill (the only thing you'll kill is time) before heading up and west over to Tramps to see ted leo, cat power, joan of arc, and girls against boys. it was punk planet's benefit for Voices in the Wilderness, a group that breaks the U.N. sanctions on iraq to bring food and medicine over, mostly to children. (check out for more info -- an amazing cause) but, the music! i'd never heard ted leo, and he rocked pretty good, i gotta say. cat power was beautiful and amazing and painful... but the audience was so rude and loud that she cut her last song short and said quietly, "y'all have fun tonight" and booked it off stage... joan of arc chided the audience, but to no avail. anyone who's heard JoA knows that a lot of their songs are super quiet, and despite my proximity to the stage i could barely hear some songs... blah! girls against boys were, well, bad. mick and emanuel had tried to explain to me what they sound like earlier, but nothing prepared me for this weird band. luckily i had to leave in the middle of their set in order to catch the last train out of the city. hhhmmmph! well, i'm sure i've bored you all enough. sadly, i don't have my tigermilk yet. i preordered it from jeepster even though i knew it would probably be quicker to just wait to buy it this week in stores... but i like the idea of sending my hard earned cash directly to jeepsta ... and of getting foreign post! so, i'll wait... patiently... sort of... take care, kids! xoxo, marie "Down with the Spectacular-Commodity Culture" -joa === ********************************************************** "I was a proper snob in college, as only a future lifetime English major can be" - b. glass (j.d.s.) ********************************************************** "to me she was just marie." -mersault. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Heatrexo at xxx.com Mon Jul 12 04:59:35 1999 From: Heatrexo at xxx.com (Heatrexo at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 23:59:35 EDT Subject: Sinister: taking full advantage of my new found pea sized voice... Message-ID: <9524536e.24bac227@aol.com> Hello, Yes! ::screams with delight:: i'm out of the nursery! Now..what should I say... My name is Heather. I'm 18 and I enjoy listening to BWTAS sitting on the bench in my backyard staring at my toes. "Judy and the Dream of Horses" recently has made me the most content with being me. I'm starting college this fall and i'm extremely worried and nervous. If anyone can give me advice or stories to ease my horribly afraid feeling i would greatly appreciate it (e-mail me privately of course) I'm majoring in English-creative writing... probably what's the worst job you've had... i worked at mcdonalds making eggs for one day. i'm forever scorned what do you read... at the moment i'm finishing Glamorama by Bret Easton Ellis. what's driving you mad... the constant summer stagnant feeling i've been having recently On Crushes... tonight I saw the boy I liked all throughout eighth grade which was considerably a long time ago. He came up to me and we chatted. My heart didn't jump like it did before. I could look in his eyes without any sort of strange teenage desire. I was proud of myself. I saw him once before he was driving next to me on the highway. He wanted me to call him. I never did, because i knew that's what he says to everyone. I think mostly I didn't feel anything towards him is because we used to be like eachother, and now we're complete opposites. He's the type of guy who would disregard my existence except for answers on homework... that's not what i want. ::sigh:: I'm constantly unhealthily crushing on someone though... i'm saving my pennies for Tigermilk Love and Sparkles, Heatherxoxo "i do everything to prove to myself that i'm not afraid. that's why nothing's done" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Mon Jul 12 06:52:44 1999 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick * Sandcastle Records) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 01:52:44 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Big Brother Is Watching You Message-ID: <378982AC.D694FCC@ohiou.edu> Hello Sinistereens, I'm not 35, not 30, 25, or even 69. I turned 21 about an hour ands a half ago. I wonder when exactly it was that I woke up and started writing e-mails as if I was 35. Hm, oh well. I'm still mad that I can't make my birthday complete by picking up a copy of Tigermilk. I'd wager it sounds much nicer than my old beloved tape copy. But, I don't think I'll be donating my copy to be used to make a kilt to be worn at next year's Brit Awards. There are several reasons you might consider keeping your old tape copies: 1) Sentimentality 2) If you don't have a CD player in your car, or a discman, you can listen to your tape copy in either of those lovely locales. Personally I think listening to music whilst driving is the Ultimate Listening Experience (tm). 3) If you have anything else on side 2, you'd have to give that up. I'm certainly not ready to. Anyway, I'm going to wildly diverge in topic so as to confuse you. I had a nice time at the NYC picnic yesterday. Megan and I sat around at the bottom of the hill with a TWATTYBUS flat looking at passersby. Unfortunately no one pointed at us and squealed. I sat for a little while in a sunny meadow reading George Orwell's 1984, which is honestly about the strangest contrast of reading material/locale I can remember being in. So we combed the entire park looking for the other picnickers, and met with no success. We sat down for a bit and were considering giving up and having our own picnic when we saw Ben, who pointed us in the right direction. On the way we ran into Emanuel and Marie, and we found Laurel in a spot we'd looked at some time earlier. On the whole I had quite a nice picnic, even though we didn't really have any drinks and I think everyone mainly ate their own food, except for the very popular peaches. I think the quality of the picnic was due in large part to the park's ban on bikes. Thus, none of us had to fear that our ankles would be viciously assaulted by anything whatsoever, unlike the last picnic I attended. Ben and Laurel had to go, so we went to see lots of medieval art and tapestries involving the slaughtering of unicorns. Quite nice, except the slaughtering bit. Well in the end we all had to part ways, but it was a nice time. I heard Lady Penelope and someone named Matt were at the park but couldn't find us. That's a huge shame, because Lady Penelope sounded so interesting from the posts I'd read, and I'm sure Matt was equally so. Maybe we can all meet up before the Looper gig. Yes, so in the end Megan and I went home to be poor, which is actually a rather time-consuming and costly undertaking. So Megan paid the leccy bill and got the shopping and she still had some for the cinema, so we all went out. Er, out to the video store anyway, which is a cinema, in a poetic kinda way. You know when you grope for Luna. Right, and if anyone's the least bit interested in what I'm doing, just imagine lots of expletives and the words "Tigermilk," "tomrrow," and "damn," exiting my mouth at seemingly random intervals, gratuitous playing of the Montgolfier Brothers album, and turning some multiple of 7. It could be 21, or 28, or even 35. /"\_/"\_/"\ Brian Pennington, a.k.a. Mick McMick; Sandcastle Records \ / bp224996 at ohiou.edu ICQ#5056758 | | Sandcastle Recs Homepage: http://www.frognet.net/~mick/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | -Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From richard.connell at xxx.com Mon Jul 12 09:12:20 1999 From: richard.connell at xxx.com (Richard Connell) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 09:12:20 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: silly people and brushes with fame In-Reply-To: <9524536e.24bac227@aol.com> Message-ID: <8320120912071999/A02129/ADVAX1/11D7624C1400*@MHS> Hello, My first post in ages and my first literal subject line. Cant be bad. I too got my tigermilk on friday and it is good. I like it. a lot. I was given a lift yesterday by a taxi driver who used to be in a band that supported the who all the time. It was 60s who (or as i call it good who) as opposed to the 70s who (or poo who). One of his songs was number 1 in the portsmouth chart. Of course being a taxi driver it could have all been a load of bollocks and if the journey had been longer he might have said he wrote magic bus and told roger daltrey to perm his hair. But I choose to believe him. I am on AOL and was in their music chat room the other day (a fairly terrible place to be as those who've been can attest)when i got into a bit of an argument with someone about b&s. They said that stuart makes his lyrics deliberately obtuse. He then went on to site the state im in as an example. For me the song is just a quirky story with no deeper meaning than a shaggy dog story but he disagreed. I think that b&s songs are fairly easy to understand and when they arent its down to poetic licence rather than wilful obliqueness. What does everyone else think? Lets have a heated debate. Or just ignore me. Finally, i was watching starship troopers on sky the other night when i heard, during a fight scene no less, fade into you by mazzy star?!?! Can anyone spell innappropriate (cos i obviously cant). Any other film scene / cool song wierd juxtapositions? Ive got ladyfingers Rich +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i_love_moon at xxx.com Mon Jul 12 08:21:53 1999 From: i_love_moon at xxx.com (hay fever) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 07:21:53 GMT Subject: Sinister: tigermilk vs. elephant shoe Message-ID: <19990712072216.3596.qmail@hotmail.com> sinisters i was sitting on the train yesterday morning at four am, coming home after a late brilliant show with modest mouse. and i come to wonder something about our friends belle and sebastian. how has the release of tigermilk effected your thoughts about them? i was wondering, has the magic gone away? is there less mysticism about the band, or is that just a dumb idea popping into my head? i know there is a lot of different aspects of the re-release. for one, i now hear "she's losing it" all the time on the radio. whats the deal with that? i wouldn't be suprised if tigermilk pops up as one of this weeks most played records on p3 (swedish radio). i was almost choking myself the other morning when i had my cup of tea and i picked up the local white trash paper in which they compared the release of tigermilk to to the release of the new star wars movie. it obviously also got five stars. next to three four country records being reviewed. i now what you are all thinking, "well now atleast everyone is able of hearing this masterpiece" and i'm obviously aware of this and i defianly think everyone should. this has nothing to do with the fact that i liked being the only boy in school who had tigermilk and that all the girls begged me to tape it for them, aye. obviously now they won't. but it is not about that, it's about the tale of belle and sebastian, brutally changing or should i say, evolving? i'm probably make you all hate me even more, but i'm actually looking towards on hearing the new arab strap cd "elephant shoe" more then hearing the new belle and sebastian album (ooh well, let's just call it "the boy with the arab strap 2") - and i'm basing this on that unfortunatly i may fear that belle and sebastian are not evolving as good as arab strap, seeing that philophobia was better then the boy with the arab strap and if you're feeling sinister was better then the weekend never starts around here. and to be honest with you, i don't know if i like "winter wooskielf" and "family tree" that much. but i'm probably wrong cuz no one has ever done a record as good as tigermilk, so now i'm going to quit, calm down, ok? i'm over the counter productive culture, johan = sinister bakushi at hayfever.net www.hayfever.net __________redblueyellowrecordings____________ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordi-tv at xxx.com Mon Jul 12 07:02:11 1999 From: jordi-tv at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano i Vilar) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 07:02:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: [RE]Sin título Message-ID: <19990712100211.HM.00000000001Jv3f@mixmail.com> Hi, people: The latest invention of the Sinister mailing l ist is a new label founded by one of its members, it can be the new home from Luna, now that they�ve been sacked from Beggars Banquet. It seems such a good idea that I want to be the spanish A&R for them. I suppose that Martin is going to pay me new suits and trips to London. Andy wrote: "oh, news from the LA gig was that stu d seems to be enjoying it. 'he was happy and chatty, nothing like he usually is" Oh, at the Bowlie he was very kind with the audience. Maybe because he looked funny with the headphones in his ears. And at the B&S gig he seemed to be the least nervous member. If everything goes well, then in a few hours i�m going to get my legal copy of "Tigermilk", after hearing at least a 1000 times the tape that Stu G. so kindly sent me. Can anyone, either a member of the list or a member of Jeepster, sen d me one of those promo postcards ? I hope that at least somebody will scan it and send it to either to the Jeepster or the sinister page. If an yone can send me one of these postcards, the prize is still the same: a copy of the Barcelona gig. Yesterday I saw of the most amazing film that I?ve watched over the last three years, The Red Violin. It�s amazing how there is no distributor in Spain who thought about taking some copy in the english version. The fact is that is based about the history of an old violinwhich has the most amazing sound in the world, and maybe we can draw some paral.lel lines about the old discussion here trying to find out how old was Isobel�s cello. You never know where you get your inspiration. I�ve also been attending a lot of Hitchcock movies that are being projected near my place, and in "Strangers in a train" mr. Al fredo appears briefly taking a cello with him. Maybe it travelled to Scotland later, you never kn ow.... i�ve decided to end myself saying "bye, little fl ies" at the end of my mails, just in order to not offend anyone. If I did, my apologies, it was not my intention. Adeu nois i noies ===================================== ============= Jordiet Sinistre ================================================== Tu E-Mail Gratis en http://www.mixmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From summerwasting at xxx.com Mon Jul 12 10:08:36 1999 From: summerwasting at xxx.com (Nick Eeepooh!) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 02:08:36 PDT Subject: Sinister: looper show review Message-ID: <19990712090838.5727.qmail@hotmail.com> well guess what? little 'ol me finally tried to get into a nightclub with a fake i.d. which i borrowed off of my friends, friends friend.(it looked nothing like me and i'm 16 and it said i was 20, but whatever) and the reely nice bouncer obviously did his job by asking for i.d. but then turned the cheek and let me and my freshly 19 year old friend into see a truly exciting show. it was wierd at first and i felt kind of uncomfortable but i got used to it. anyway, there has been many a band that has come to vancouver and played the starfish room and tonnes of them i would kill to see. but for some reason i always seemed to let them slip by, but not this one. looper and iqu. i've been listening to iqu (electronic/acoustic(not in a beth orton way though)band from olympia) ever since their debut 7" appeared some 3 years ago. so i finally got to see them live and it was great. the stand up bass player had real showmanship and their entire set had the entire club boppin' their heads. nice. then on to looper. well for me this was a dream show and i think the rest of the crowd felt the same. we were highly responsive to looper but for some reason the band was kind of in a slump. stu d. in between every song cussed and complained about how the sound was shitty and how they couldn't hear themselves on stage. (nick's note: it sounded wonderful and all the instruments were at good levels and i'm not quite sure why he was complaining so much) also they stopped playing dave the moonman about a minute into it cuz the guitar player kept messing up his parts and stu'd bass seemed out of tune with the music etc. and karn apologized to us vancouverites for having to watch their roughest show. stu said that if we wanted we could try and get our money back as well. it was a really nice (but breif) set and they capped it off with to my knowledge a new song Y2K. that song is amazing! in my opinion by far the best in their repitoire. which leads me to ask if anyone knows when this song will be released. (new 7"? ep? single? album?) and also if anyone has a live recording of it or something that they could send my way (we could trade, just email me) or at least if someone could write out the lyrics for me and send them cuz they are so great. that would be extremely nice. well there you go it was a great show. and i usually don't write this much cuz it's a pain for all you guys to read but i don't post very often so i guess it's okay. take care, .nick. (and anyone with the goods please get back to me!) ONE MINOR COMPLAINT: i was all pumped to buy one of the nice looper tshirts and they weren't selling them at the show! there was no merchandise at all. has this happened to any of you who've been to their gigs? that was really too bad. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From summerwasting at xxx.com Mon Jul 12 10:08:40 1999 From: summerwasting at xxx.com (Nick Eeepooh!) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 02:08:40 PDT Subject: Sinister: looper show review Message-ID: <19990712090840.86345.qmail@hotmail.com> well guess what? little 'ol me finally tried to get into a nightclub with a fake i.d. which i borrowed off of my friends, friends friend.(it looked nothing like me and i'm 16 and it said i was 20, but whatever) and the reely nice bouncer obviously did his job by asking for i.d. but then turned the cheek and let me and my freshly 19 year old friend into see a truly exciting show. it was wierd at first and i felt kind of uncomfortable but i got used to it. anyway, there has been many a band that has come to vancouver and played the starfish room and tonnes of them i would kill to see. but for some reason i always seemed to let them slip by, but not this one. looper and iqu. i've been listening to iqu (electronic/acoustic(not in a beth orton way though)band from olympia) ever since their debut 7" appeared some 3 years ago. so i finally got to see them live and it was great. the stand up bass player had real showmanship and their entire set had the entire club boppin' their heads. nice. then on to looper. well for me this was a dream show and i think the rest of the crowd felt the same. we were highly responsive to looper but for some reason the band was kind of in a slump. stu d. in between every song cussed and complained about how the sound was shitty and how they couldn't hear themselves on stage. (nick's note: it sounded wonderful and all the instruments were at good levels and i'm not quite sure why he was complaining so much) also they stopped playing dave the moonman about a minute into it cuz the guitar player kept messing up his parts and stu'd bass seemed out of tune with the music etc. and karn apologized to us vancouverites for having to watch their roughest show. stu said that if we wanted we could try and get our money back as well. it was a really nice (but breif) set and they capped it off with to my knowledge a new song Y2K. that song is amazing! in my opinion by far the best in their repitoire. which leads me to ask if anyone knows when this song will be released. (new 7"? ep? single? album?) and also if anyone has a live recording of it or something that they could send my way (we could trade, just email me) or at least if someone could write out the lyrics for me and send them cuz they are so great. that would be extremely nice. well there you go it was a great show. and i usually don't write this much cuz it's a pain for all you guys to read but i don't post very often so i guess it's okay. take care, .nick. (and anyone with the goods please get back to me!) ONE MINOR COMPLAINT: i was all pumped to buy one of the nice looper tshirts and they weren't selling them at the show! there was no merchandise at all. has this happened to any of you who've been to their gigs? that was really too bad. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tjohn at xxx.uk Mon Jul 12 11:20:18 1999 From: tjohn at xxx.uk (Timothy Roberts) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:20:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: turning rebellion into money Message-ID: <002501becc50$4a45f020$3a32883e@Poberts> i think its nice that someone else has started their own record company. just as long as you all remember that I DID IT FIRST, therefore I AM OFFICIALLY BETTER. if destroyed true nyah nyah etc. deadhippy records, remember? anyone? actually my brothers running it on his own now because i didnt want a part of it anymore because we differed ideologically or something like that. but the problem is hes a MUPPET and USELESS at EVERYTHING so i have to keep pointing him in the right direction ie ghostwriting his ENTIRE website for him. okay, so it might be a more traditional type of label than martins technologically minded one. we are, after all, luddites. but my latest genius marketing masterstroke/ pointless gimmick (delete as applicable) for the website is a signup page. you just answer a few simple questions and you get sent a certificate proving youre an official member of the deadhippy family. i am a genius. i am. but dont go looking for it yet, were not putting it up until some time this week, when we kick out the cowboy builder. html is a doddle once you know how, eh? my bands will probably eventually get records out on deadhippy subsiduaries. BATFINK, ill say that again BATFINK, on historic records (heh heh) and second guess (doesnt need capital letters) on blackcurrent tunes (oh my sides). the reason its spelt blackcurrEnt is because big-buddha-belly-ben spelt it wrong a million times on the website and couldnt be bothered to change it, so we decided it was cleverer that way. and it is. you know we dont stand a chance etc. see you later crocodiles from tjohn. dont go to the website yet, itll be better this time next week. "and do you think its possible to be sensitive and strong?" "hmm... we are." -the bmx bandits visit deadhippy online: http://www.deadhippy-records.freeserve.co.uk one day youll thank me... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sleeka_sounds at xxx.com Mon Jul 12 11:41:13 1999 From: sleeka_sounds at xxx.com (Sleeka Sounds) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 03:41:13 PDT Subject: Sinister: Very Important New Website Message-ID: <19990712104114.94327.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello petals, how are you? mmm, is that a haircut? Looks good. I spent the weekend camping in a Kenneth Williams manner. Speaking of which, I need your help. I've made a new website, The Stuart Murdoch Fan Site, about how great Stuart is. L@@K!! http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~calnd/stuart/stuart.htm Now, if anyone has any interesting facts, or wants to tell other people what they think the best things about Stuart are, mail the address on the site and I will add it in (at nightime). Of course if anyone is really rude or disrespecful about him, it's your name that goes beside it, not mine. It's not nice to be cheeky. Fond Regards, Chris ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peter.ramsdale at xxx.com Mon Jul 12 12:51:17 1999 From: peter.ramsdale at xxx.com (Pete Ramsdale) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 12:51:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: For all of you that dont live/work/exist in London.... Message-ID: <3789D6B5.9B5F03A8@wdr.com> ......here is the review of Tigermilk from the Metro: Belle and Sebastian inspire an evangelical devotion in those who get them, and contemptuous cries to bring back the Sex Pistols in those who don't. The long-awaited CD edition of their first album Tigermilk, recorded in five days in 1996, is released today, and although it compromises the mythical status that hangs over Belle and Sebastian like a halo (the limited edition vinyl copies alledgedly change hands for £800), it also disrupts the idea in the opposition camp that Belle and Sebastian are little more than a bunch of fairies at the bottom of the garden. I'm with the evangelicals. Tigermilk is a bit like a piece of silver, an album that becomes more lustrous with familiarity. These are songs with resounding strength and depth, feistily pretty rather than soppily beautiful. They possess a rhapsodic coherence that, quite simply, makes sense. And each is a beguilingly quiet horror story of abuse, insanity and alienation that belies the exquisite sound in which they are crafted. There are damp moments - notably the jarring scarth of Electronic Renaissance - but every other song, from the edgy folk-pop swing of Expectations to the fragile We Rule the School, weaves a sublime but disquieting spell. Such is the religion of Belle and Sebastian, however, that all this is either preaching to the converted, or a pointless ramble at those who couldn't care less. p. -- -----------------------------*||*-------------------------------- "Reality never seems to work out quite the way you want it to..." Pete Ramsdale - Unix Systems Administration, Warburg Dillon Read Phone: 0171 568 3836 -----------------------------*||*-------------------------------- This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From e.brown at xxx.com Mon Jul 12 15:36:15 1999 From: e.brown at xxx.com (Emanuel Brown) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 07:36:15 -0700 Subject: Sinister: finally, a break in the clouds Message-ID: hello lovelies don't really know what the weather is like on the other side of the pond, but here in nyc its been nothing but oppressive heat & humidity. maybe if i could get my copy of tigernipple i could fan myself with it (actually its quite lovely here today, a breezy 80). as you've already heard the li'l nyc pic-a-nic was a fine way to waste a summer afternoon. the cloisters are absolutely peaceful and serene, a nice break from the stinky trash hustle bustle further downtown (those of you hal hartley-savvy kids will remember the cloisters as being the convent at the end of 'amateur'). hats off to all involved, megan, brian, laurel, ben & marie, for putting up with me even tho' i think there was some puzzlement over who the hell i am (not a frequent posterboy). its funny to put a face with the words you see on the list, almost queers the deal as the adorable marie pointed out (alas we are all just real people after all). the soft & fuzzy elevator was definitely another highlight. its almost too weird to describe... tigertitty is finally here in the states, but i haven't run off to get it yet. i kinda feel unmotivated by the whole thing. all of this concern over b&s making smart business decisions is wearing thin also. they are a band of musicians, and damn good ones at that. let 'em do what they need to fer chrissakes! myths and legends are nice, but they are simply thus. there should be a warning label on each b&s record that states: not to be taken internally! if so, flush system with generous amounts of the mekons or possibly black sabbath (extreme cases) until dizziness goes away :] looper will be here soon, as will a slew of other bands i wanna see. all strung together under the silly guise of digitalclubfest99 or some such nonsense where you are expected to pay $50 for a pass that may or may not get you into see the shows of your choice (its first come first serve). thanks to the reviewer of the canadian looper gigs for the heads up. okay. back to work for me and onto other posts for you. bye / emanuel Free, fast e-mail accessible anytime, anywhere http://www.imaginemail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Mon Jul 12 16:05:42 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 16:05:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: It were all Munchener Freiheit around here when I was a lad Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E2275CC02@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Hmmm. Alex said: "It's odd how many people are under the assumption that being a B&S fan means we all share the same mindset and are all Soul Mates, which I find vastly amusing. Me thinks perhaps it is because of the median age of listees, late teens, early 20's." Mark says in reply: Don't you think it's kind of a good thing that people who are part of this community feel comfy enough to share their thoughts and concerns without having to worry about people abusing or patronising them? Or perhaps I'm just prickly, having moaned long and hard on the list a couple of days ago. And don't even *think* about blaming it on people's ages - I really wouldn't go down that path, chum... Moving on - this Tigermilk launch thing in London tonight - does it really start at 11? Oh dear - 25 and perpetually knackered - if anyone from the list is going, *please* drop me a line and let me know as Miss Vicky (resplendent in her plaster cast which could really benefit for some sinister witticisms) and I still need some persuading (alternatively, write to me and tell me not to go - it'd be the best for all concerned, I expect) Urgh - work is on the busy side, so bye f'now - oh yes, MissV and I should be heading back over to NYC in October, so if anyone wants to do funky and possibly illegal things with us, please let me know .... Urgh was the word... Mark xxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Mon Jul 12 16:27:40 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 16:27:40 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Smiths+Good Luck=Lucksmiths??? Message-ID: >From analysing who influenced Belle and Sebastian or carry on influencing them along their works,to see they have become 'Influential' too : The Lucksmiths are playing in Nottingham in ten days and they are announced as some pocketsized B&S.Lovely definition.Really manageable and wee. My personal difference between Smiths and Belle and Sebastian is the breath of hope and the humble tone these latter choose for their tunes.Could it be called 'luck'? I am afraid 'luck'just means 'chance' in English (at least,British-English),it is not itself a positive or optimistic or hopeful term.Could someone explain to me this? Thanks a lot. Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From justin at xxx.com Mon Jul 12 16:59:13 1999 From: justin at xxx.com (Justin Williams) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:59:13 -0500 Subject: Sinister: I learned the truth at seventeen... Message-ID: <4.1.19990712105438.009f06f0@delafont.com> Hello all, I was wondering if you anyone out there can help me with a nameless song I have had in my head for the past few weeks or so...you know the chili pepper Simpsons episode? Well when Homer is looking for his soulmate, there is a song playing that goes "I learned the truth at seventeen, that love was meant for beauty queens and high school girls with clear skin smiles...who married young and then retired.." and I absolutely love it. Who sings it and what is it called? Any help would be much appreciated =) I hope everyone is doing wonderfully... Justin W "Where am I going to sleep tonight? Who cares! What is the world doing? Have new gods been discovered, new laws, new freedoms? Who cares! But up here a primrose is blossoming and bearing silver fuzz on its leaves, And the light sweet wind is singing below me in the poplars, and between My eyes and heaven a dark golden bee is hovering and humming -- I care about that. It's song is my history of the world." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Mon Jul 12 17:27:06 1999 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksAndAJill) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 12:27:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Well she was just seventeen... Message-ID: <199907121627.MAA116818@dept.english.upenn.edu> Sinistars, Someone asked about a song during a Simpsons episode (the chili pepper one). I think it's "Seventeen" by Janis Ian. A nice song isn't it? Almost B&S-like in its gentle folk sound but somewhat bittersweet observation/reflection. (There, I did it, married Simpsons discussion with B&S! Feel like I've tied a maraschino cherry stem with my tongue) Not to be confused with "When I was seventeen, I drank some very good beer..." I hope people are making an effort to see Marine Research as they trudge across this vast land of ours. They put on a great show and are really nice folks to boot. They were awesome in Philly last Thursday...anybody to share? Apparently Cathy wasn't feeling all that well (they were going to see a doctor but they had no time) but you didn't see her refuse to play. (Ouch!) I kid, I kid. I kid because I love. Peter Momtchiloff is an amazing guitarist btw. Up there with Johnny Marr, Graham Coxon, Maurice Deebank and of course whoever played guitar in the Monochrome Set natch. Maybe I'm alone in thinking this but B&S are going to have a really tough act to follow with _Tigermilk_ re-released this week. Now instead of the elite few sniffing "Eh it's not as good as _Tigermilk_", *everybody* is going to sniff the same sentiment, and everyone will nod knowingly instead of shrugging and saying "I wouldn't know, I haven't heard it yet..." Man, that was annoying for a while I must say. You fuckers!!! You know who you are!:) Oh, there I go again. About this Mick^3 being 35 business--maybe he has a verbal case of Werner Syndrome? You know what would take care of that, a good hot poultice. (Showing my premature age there with that one) Tiger what? Tiger who? (with apologies to Jay-Z) Xavier BXK bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu | www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 It's what kind of hair you have on the inside that counts.--G.S. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fountainhead at xxx.net Mon Jul 12 17:57:56 1999 From: fountainhead at xxx.net (fountainhead) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:57:56 +0100 Subject: Sinister: be a world child, form a circle Message-ID: <001801becc88$b5b04800$772e63c3@oemcomputer> hello ye sinster people the powers that be hath gifted me 'a voice' so that i may become a living and breathing part of this list. as i'm sure you're all far too busy listening to your shiny new copies of 'tigermilk', i'll be brief. i just wanted to say a bit of a hello. if you're interested, my name is either lee or fountainhead (spot the real one). i'm 22. i live in nottingham. i'm just getting over my annual personal crisis which means that it should be about eleven and a half months before i even dream of bothering you with personal problems. aside from the lovely b&s you might find me listening to radiohead, rem, the tindersticks, blur, christy moore, the bluetones and anyone who played at bowlie. ok, there a a couple of hundred others, but nobody cares. that's about it. i've enjoyed reading your messages over the last few weeks, and hated being prevented from replying to many of them. such is life. be good now, and i'll see you all soon. f. -- http://fly.to/fountain (if you like) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk Mon Jul 12 19:12:59 1999 From: pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk (Pamela Hutchinson) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:12:59 +0100 Subject: Sinister: napier university Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From justin at xxx.com Mon Jul 12 19:52:22 1999 From: justin at xxx.com (Justin Williams) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 13:52:22 -0500 Subject: Sinister: thanks Message-ID: <4.1.19990712135004.009f1950@delafont.com> Thanks to all who responded to my query earlier, there were so many I didn't realize I was the only person in the world who didn't know who that song was by =) Justin W +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From justin at xxx.com Mon Jul 12 20:11:08 1999 From: justin at xxx.com (Justin Williams) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 14:11:08 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Re: strange song/movie combos In-Reply-To: <8320120912071999/A02129/ADVAX1/11D7624C1400*@MHS> References: <9524536e.24bac227@aol.com> Message-ID: <4.1.19990712140027.009f1950@delafont.com> Although a bit dated it is still highly inappropriate, the movie "The Chase" with Charlie Sheen which contains a Suede song (my memory is failing me at the moment as to which one), and although not really inappropriate but altogether unexpected is the Donovan song "Jersey Thursday" on the soundtrack of Rushmore which I watched a couple of days ago. And I must take this time to vent my anger about the French group Air letting their songs be on Loreal's latest campaign. I think Looper also has one of their songs on an equally detestable commercial (I know this has probably been mentioned before). Sorry for the two posts in a day thing..=P Justin W xo At 09:12 AM 7/12/99 +0100, you wrote: >Finally, i was watching starship troopers on sky the other night when i >heard, during a fight scene no less, fade into you by mazzy star?!?! Can >anyone spell innappropriate (cos i obviously cant). Any other film scene / >cool song wierd juxtapositions? > >Ive got ladyfingers >Rich > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fountainhead at xxx.net Mon Jul 12 19:52:08 1999 From: fountainhead at xxx.net (fountainhead) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:52:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Smiths+Good Luck=Lucksmiths??? Message-ID: <042d01becc9c$bbe40540$353863c3@oemcomputer> >From analysing who influenced Belle and Sebastian or carry on influencing >them along their works,to see they have become 'Influential' too : The >Lucksmiths are playing in Nottingham in ten days and they are announced as >some pocketsized B&S.Lovely definition.Really manageable and wee. ohmigod i read that and thought to myself 'golly, i'd go and see them if it weren't for the fact that my own band are playing a gig in nottingham that night. now it turns out that they're on our bill. small small world the moral of this story is - be at the bunkers hill inn in nottingham a week thursday. f. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steve at xxx.uk Mon Jul 12 21:17:29 1999 From: steve at xxx.uk (Steve Genge) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 21:17:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The great Tigermilk giveaway!!!!! Message-ID: <00a701becca3$941210a0$8ee5989e@wphnvffu> Well kind of, I've ended up with a big pile of Tigermilk related goodies which I thought would be ideal to pass on to you dear sinistereenies. This will be on a strictly first come first served basis & sadly is only open to list members in the UK or the US (sorry) How can you get your paws on some free stuff I hear you cry. Well go to to our webpage, have a look around (we can tell if you don't!!) and then press onto the Belle And Sebastian pages where you'll find a Mary Jo button. Press that & all will be revealed. http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Cabaret/9043/ steve "Pain and beauty, our constant bedfellows." Sabine Strohem steve at seahorses.demon.co.uk Red Roses For Me Fanzine http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Cabaret/9043 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rgpietru at xxx.edu Mon Jul 12 22:09:47 1999 From: rgpietru at xxx.edu (B o b b y) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:09:47 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Well she was just seventeen... Message-ID: >I hope people are making an effort to see Marine Research as they trudge >across this vast land of ours. They put on a great show and are really >nice folks to boot. They were awesome in Philly last Thursday...anybody >to share? I would have to agree that they were quite brilliant in boston aswell. I was surprisingly UN-show-weary considering i hadn't heard a single song previous to seeing them live (going solely on the fact that i loved heavenly). Not to mention great dancing on Amelia's behalf. I don't think anyone will be dissappointed in the new songs they are in the usual tradition. I must say i am jealous of Ben getting to see them in philly in something much more like a garage than a club. on a B&S note, I went to tower today to see if Tigermilk would be released at midnight, the girl at the counter insisted that the * US * release came out in June and that the computer said there were 10 copies on display. unsurprisingly, there weren't. unfortunately, i never found out if you can get it at midnight or not because as far as she was concerned it is already out. shrug. >Tiger what? >Tiger who? >(with apologies to Jay-Z) can i get a what what ? -bobby. "I have nothing to say and I am saying it and that is poetry" rgpietru at student.berklee.edu http://enfant-sonology.iwarp.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From memon at xxx.com Mon Jul 12 22:10:32 1999 From: memon at xxx.com (A. Memon) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:10:32 +-100 Subject: Sinister: (a boy going tigermilking - london) Message-ID: <01BECCB3.69D91800@host5-171-236-237.btinternet.com> hello, i'm amos. i'm going tigermilking tonight in london. having been blown out by four so called friends (ok, its not that bad) i have decided to take matters into my own hand....i'm going on my jack jones tonight (thats "on my own" for anyone not familiar with cockney). i'm fairly approachable, ok, i dont bite, and i know some really unfunny jokes. i'll be easy to spot tonight: i'll be wearing a blue t-shirt with the word "baltimore" in a tri-colour design, you know, like the french flag. red white and blue. erm, either this will work, or i'll feel really unwanted (ha ha ha - woah, this is serious) in that case i'll email you all for counselling. thanks! amos +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SSharp5210 at xxx.com Mon Jul 12 22:58:37 1999 From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:58:37 EDT Subject: Sinister: Sex and Drugs and Rock 'n Roll Message-ID: <1e07f603.24bbbf0d@aol.com> Hi Poptarts. I just got back from the drunken,tented,trouser fumbling sunshine-fest that is T in the Park.Hence the subject line which pretty much described my weekend.Except for the sex.Although not for want of trying.And..um..the drugs...ditto. Although B&S will never play the fest ever,I did spot 3 Sinister t-shirts,1 study at Stow and 6 badges (Although no arab straps..Odd that) Anyway,the main point of my rambling:Beg,steal,buy or borrow a Mowglai "Blur are shite" T-shirt.The most stylishly elegant garment I have seen all year. Steve.Still sunny natured but slightly sexually tense.xxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SSharp5210 at xxx.com Mon Jul 12 23:04:12 1999 From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:04:12 EDT Subject: Sinister: What care I for spelling? Message-ID: <4674f185.24bbc05c@aol.com> I apologise in advance for spelling Mogwai wrong.The verbal kicking that is sure to come is fully justified,but it was the keyboard's fault.Honest. Steve x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Mon Jul 12 23:36:16 1999 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgirl) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:36:16 PDT Subject: Sinister: Primrose Hill PICNIC 22ND JULY LONDON!! Message-ID: <19990712223617.35731.qmail@hotmail.com> hello picniclovers.. here more details.. The picnic on the 22nd will be a blast as well already know:) bring your tapeplayer, guitars, etc food of course and wine:) it will take place: 22nd JULY Primrose Hill 16.00 (that is four o clock in the afternoon) until late.. the place to meet is best at camden tube, yet I don't know where wich tube entrace etc....that I need help with!!! can anyone help me?? be there and well have a blast If you cannot make it on time just stroal up the hill and shout for BELLE and we will answer SEBASTIAN in return!! that's a deal!!! hugs people I'm so happy that there are so many people coming.. jenn, jessica ,andrew, steve, martin,dougal, chris, john, paul and a bunch of their friends and yes ofcorse me, jonas, kat ,anna ,sophia and two other swedish girls join us you too..the more the merrier of course.. hugs becka http://travel.to/blondie PS I heard some people are making a bojkott to our picnic by having another one the weekend after..well people join both..but we are only there next week so we cannot joing both so therefore it is up to you if you want to have a laugh with some swedish folks:) hugs again ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jaguar at xxx.gr Tue Jul 13 01:03:52 1999 From: jaguar at xxx.gr (Panos Karafotias) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 03:03:52 +0300 Subject: Sinister: Fest meet? Message-ID: Hey all, tomorrow, 13th of July , is the second day of the Rockwave festival here in Athens, and I'll be there to watch Mercury Rev, Blur, Placebo and dEUS. I'll be wearing my IYFS t-shirt and if any of you guys are gonna be there, just say hi :) Panos +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From u01cjtc at xxx.uk Tue Jul 13 02:10:00 1999 From: u01cjtc at xxx.uk (Colin Campbell) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 02:10:00 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Sex and Drugs and Rock 'n Roll In-Reply-To: <1e07f603.24bbbf0d@aol.com> Message-ID: T in the park was fantastic. I met richard colburn and got his autograph, how exciting huh kids! It was so cool loads of people talk to you just for having a belle and sebastian t-shirt on (blue cartoon saturday, study at stow sunday) mogwai were fantastic, bought the t-shirt, which offended my little sister intensely, although i am fond of a bit of blur. delgados were a little disapointing, snow patrol were great, despite being stuch in such a pish wee tent, idlewild was painful yet rewarding, mercury rev were fantastic again, and their bass player was the only band member from the whole weekend to respond to the "curious lemon" which was a plastic lemon i found on the ground and became rather attached to. Sun visors are the new black! colin. On Mon, 12 Jul 1999 SSharp5210 at aol.com wrote: > Hi Poptarts. > I just got back from the drunken,tented,trouser fumbling sunshine-fest that > is T in the Park.Hence the subject line which pretty much described my > weekend.Except for the sex.Although not for want of trying.And..um..the > drugs...ditto. > > Although B&S will never play the fest ever,I did spot 3 Sinister t-shirts,1 > study at Stow and 6 badges (Although no arab straps..Odd that) > > Anyway,the main point of my rambling:Beg,steal,buy or borrow a Mowglai "Blur > are shite" T-shirt.The most stylishly elegant garment I have seen all year. > > Steve.Still sunny natured but slightly sexually tense.xxxx > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Taranicole at xxx.com Tue Jul 13 03:02:31 1999 From: Taranicole at xxx.com (Taranicole at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:02:31 EDT Subject: Sinister: search;smut Message-ID: <9731b38c.24bbf837@aol.com> nobody's mentioned it as of the most received digest sister girl here received... Soooooo.... am i the only one who almost wet her pants in shock-recognition stylee last night, when i was watching 120 minutes (shh, not a word to anyone, it was a one time thing, i promise) and saw the Pavement video and noticed That One Dude, Not Steve Malkmus, But a Bassist or Guitarist Or Something (called Scott or Mike or Brad or something), sportin the Study at Stow t--shirt? Yea-ha. At first I thought, "Naw, couldn't be, it's just another ill-fitting top in the same hideous shade of blue" but after a couple more glances realised it WAS SO. Damn them, you just *know* this will just catch on, Pavement being the arbiters of style for America's Youth like they are. (I am pretty sure they have a lot to do with capri pants coming back in fashion....) Now EVERYBODY's gonna have one. *SIGH* so... that's it really. but oh, one other thing I always wondered, whenever I go to the Sinister Search engine, why is it that instead of showing something such as, "Books; favorite" it's always cued up to search for things like, "boobs;elves" or "Isobel;farts" and once (i SWEAR!) "lesbians;underwear"??? is this a joke, like part of something Paul's done for a laugh and it's MEANT to be that way or are these actual searches you filthy minded little scamps are doing?? Really!! The Real World Hawaii is about to come on, must be going... tata, Tara "Goodbye guys." --Kenny, in the new South Park movie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Tue Jul 13 03:23:08 1999 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake E Hamilton) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:23:08 -0400 Subject: Sinister: pristine cataclysmic swirlie Message-ID: <005301beccd6$a6d38420$22b690cf@woody> what the 'poop' is up with my subject line? now that's for YOU to find out. yes YOU. the boys with the offensive smirking cajoling whippernsapper smiles that permeate the metallic green film with the surface tension of a thirty year penny surrounding the spider web salsa plate that is balanced between my eyes and your tongue. and the girls, oh the girls. well i'm not even going to go into that. i think i just had a mental spasm. one of those, y'know? well, this post has LOTS of b&s content, compared, well, to my other ones. i am first declaring myself eligible for the next dc picnic! that's right, when it does occur this fall, i'll be in winston-salem nc and will be much closer to dc. jygsaw dave already remarked to me the plan to have said picnic at king's dominion. all i say is: yes!!! yes!!! i have the fondest memories of king's dominion. two summers ago my one time best friend (he's turned pretentious and obtuse) spent three complete days there, riding the anaconda roller coaster 43 times in one day! that's right, i'm crazy. i'm loooooooooooney! woohooooooo kiddies! dave said he 'didn't dig roller coasters because i slobber too much on them' or something. that seems troubling, for dave is more of a man than i am. ahh! so i am proposing a picnic in late august, early september, ok? i say a whole weekend, but i'll need somewhere to stay...hmmm. all dc listees email me so we can all know each other when it happens. well, i understand i'm sort of the 'new guy', but the kids who have been on the dc hills since the beginning need to open their arms to blakie. b&s content: i skipped out on work for half an hour (i told people i had to go get allergy shots) to run home and check for tigermilk in my mailbox. i was so excited because i could just feel that it was sitting there, waiting. but my premonition went awry, and there was nothing. maybe tomorrow? well dc listees lets here it! i love you all blake xx i just got the Magnetic Fields 'Holiday' and i think it's so coool how stephen sings 'butts'. hehe! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Heatrexo at xxx.com Tue Jul 13 04:31:16 1999 From: Heatrexo at xxx.com (Heatrexo at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:31:16 EDT Subject: Sinister: He wore a what?!? Message-ID: <40447ce4.24bc0d04@aol.com> Hi everyone... Mr. Pavement wearing the Study at Stow shirt.. I don't think this will catch on with America's youth. The only people who look up to Pavement for advice are Blur.. as for another strange Stow sighting.. I got information from Hampshire College and one of the students was wearing it in one of the pictures showing student housing.. I tried to convince my parents to spend $30,000 a year on college..but they said a collective big no.. is this anyone on sinister? tomorrow i'm going Tigermilking when i wake up. Hopefully the record store i'm going to will have it. the store makes me giggle because all of the employees have forgotten that the big hair days of the 80's are over. So they always play some form of Poison or Ratt....and... they have a wide variety of autographs from the likes of Winger, Kiss, Great White.. it's a very classy place. enough about me.. hopefully everyone is doing just great... forever losing it, Heatherxoxo "waiting until life becomes a fairy tale" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daftpunk at xxx.au Tue Jul 13 05:12:42 1999 From: daftpunk at xxx.au (Kin WOO) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:12:42 +0800 (WST) Subject: Sinister: Re: strange song/movie combos and also WILCO!!!:):) In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990712140027.009f1950@delafont.com> Message-ID: This is a very cool thread that was started! I'm racking my brains now and all I can think about is how they played a Garbage song in "Melrose Place" which while quite shocking (this was in early days when Shirls and the boys weren't so mega) was also highly appropriate (trashy, glossy, wicked etc).They also played Garbage's magnificient towering "You Look So Fine" on "Dawson's Creek", which gave some dignity to that patchy uneven show. Cibo Matto also performed live on "Buffy" which was way cool (what do you expect, "Buffy" is THE BEST!:)) I remember hearing the wierdest songs on all these footie programmes they have here in Aussie land but again my memory fails me- stuff like Air, Clubbed to Death, Lamb is all I can vaguely remember.As for movies, I can't think of one yet, but will do so and will write back. The problem with movie soundtracks today (esp from America) is that they stuff some really good bands along with obscure crap that no one deserves to hear. Even on great films like "Cruel Intentions" and"Go" they'll have good stuff like Leftfield, the Fatboy (who's everywhere), Placebo along with absolute filler shite. I really dislike this marketing strategy, but probably the best soundtrack I've heard is the "Romeo and Juliet" one tied with "Trainspotting", which unfortunately still has crap, but just less of it. Also,am thinking of buying the Wilco album, "Summer Teeth". Any listee heard it and has an opinion of it? in my stereo: Idlewild: "1903-70" gorgeous piano led whimsy indeed from this SELECT mag compilation Madonna- "Ray of Light" (just borrowed it from a friend and it's GREAT!) Tanya Donelly- "Lovesongs for Underdogs" (one of the best women in alterna-rock's solo debut) Pining for the new Dot Allison single and album seeya Kin Woo On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Justin Williams wrote: > Although a bit dated it is still highly inappropriate, the movie "The > Chase" with Charlie Sheen which contains a Suede song (my memory is failing > me at the moment as to which one), and although not really inappropriate > but altogether unexpected is the Donovan song "Jersey Thursday" on the > soundtrack of Rushmore which I watched a couple of days ago. And I must > take this time to vent my anger about the French group Air letting their > songs be on Loreal's latest campaign. I think Looper also has one of their > songs on an equally detestable commercial (I know this has probably been > mentioned before). Sorry for the two posts in a day thing..=P > > Justin W xo > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jafrey1 at xxx.edu Tue Jul 13 05:41:42 1999 From: jafrey1 at xxx.edu (Juliebean) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:41:42 -0500 Subject: Sinister: cluttering you with a quickie Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19990712234142.006b7c8c@students.wisc.edu> hi all you bring me such joy... listening on your conversations (giggle) I for one will treasure my illegally copied CD of tigermilk as I am too poor to buy a real one, but is it true that there are new tracks on it?? If so, I probably will end up hocking a few James albums to buy it. **HUGE FAVOR** I am living out my one dream in life and going to scotland August 4. Can any kind folks from Edinburgh or Glasgow suggest where a girl could stay for a few months and maybe get a lowly job? I would be forever in your debt. big hug to sparkly heather, out of the nursery and into university! be well juliebean +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TheeXVirus at xxx.com Tue Jul 13 05:52:05 1999 From: TheeXVirus at xxx.com (TheeXVirus at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:52:05 EDT Subject: Sinister: Re: strange song/movie combos but NO WILCO!!! Message-ID: i was really surprised at hearing cranes in that movie EYE FOR AN EYE...and even more surprised when keifer sutherlands character was shown watching one of their videos later in the scene. well...a few seconds later. and on the romeo and juliet soundtrack...best song has to be the stina nordenstam one. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Tue Jul 13 07:00:32 1999 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 02:00:32 EDT Subject: Sinister: Re: strange song/movie combos and also WILCO!!!:):) Message-ID: <428eb5a9.24bc3000@aol.com> In a message dated 7/13/99 12:14:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, daftpunk at tartarus.uwa.edu.au writes: << Also,am thinking of buying the Wilco album, "Summer Teeth". Any listee heard it and has an opinion of it? >> I for one am in love with Summerteeth, and pretty much anything else Wilco's ever done. It's much more produced than Being There (which I also highly recommend to all listees...sweet, simple acoustic/country rock, if that makes any sense), but Summerteeth is great in its own way. It sounds nothing like anything Wilco's ever done, which is great sometimes, but for a few songs I really wished they would have left the synthesizers and tambourines at home and gone with the simple, intimate production of BT. Jeff Tweedy is one of the most underrated songsmiths around and he really outdid himself on Wilco's last two albums. They recently toured the states and my friend and I caught them playing at a local wedding hall. It was a bizarre atmosphere, but they put on an unbelievable rock show, replete with beacoup beer bottles and enough cigarettes to kill the average human being. In short: buy any Wilco album you can get your hands on because they will not disappoint (Summerteeth included). Thats my two cents. Ok, enough rambling. I finally have a pic up on the Sinister page, but I still don't forsee that doing alot to help my sorry standing in the list crush polls. Actually, unless I turn into Hugh Grant overnight I can't see anything helping me very much. "I yam what I yam" as Popeye once said, but thats a bit harder to say when you're built like Olive Oil (is it really spelled like that?). Later Steve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marcusomond at xxx.com Tue Jul 13 13:28:03 1999 From: marcusomond at xxx.com (Marcus Omond) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 05:28:03 PDT Subject: Sinister: london has let me down again Message-ID: <19990713122804.89595.qmail@hotmail.com> hi there all you lovely people, went to the tigermilk launch at trash last night, which was a rather odd experience, and so here it is in detail. i arrived at tottenham court road tube at 10:25, and stood around waiting for natasha to turn up. within half a minute a suited man had saddled up along side me and asked 'excuse me, are you gay?' or something along those lines, to which i replied 'i'm flattered that you ask, but no'. i was a little shocked by this - i'm not used to being approached in public. maybe it's my wildean locks... a minute later i felt someone forcibly poking me in the chest, and was scared. 'shit,' i thought, thinking that it was the gentleman from earlier returning to try again. but no - it was drunken matt from the picnic a week ago, and he was coming to trash as well. which was nice, even though at first i didn't recognise him because he'd washed his hair. then natasha turned up, looking stunning, and we went to a bar to have a drink with drunken geoff from the picnic, who was looking very sexy with his missing button on his red shirt. probably ripped off by some eager young girl, and who could blame her with geoff's angelic good looks? anyhow, we all went to trash, where we met the lovely miss vicky, two marks, jim, martin and a few other people (sorry if i haven't mentioned you) and a good time was had by all (as far as i know), with the first three quarters of tigermilk being played at the start of the night, and selected b&s tracks all night long. i'd never danced to 'dylan in the movies' before, but we all did last night, and it was great. oh, and they had a video wall with videos of the band. i'd never seen them before, and now i think stuart m is the most beautiful man in the world - wow, he's just SO stunning. wow. i left around two, and that's when things started to get weird... walking through soho to get to trafalgar square for the night bus, i got asked if a was 'looking for a lady', which made me feel bad - am i so ugly that prostitutes see me as a potential client? then somebody came up and stood in front of me shouting in a foreign language that i didn't understand, waving an unlit cigarette around before calmly saying 'by the way, do you speak english?' which made me rather worried, so i didn't answer and walked past (hastily), ignoring him when he thumped me in the back. then when i finally got out of soho (by which time i was shit scared) a police man started shouting abuse at me when i asked where trafalgar square was, threatening to arrest me and so on. which wasn't nice - i thought (in my naive little world) that police men were supposed to help. obviously not. nasty. eventually i found the bus stop, and i'd just missed the N139, and so i had to wait another hour before it came again. i was approached by a legion of semi-unconcious italian tourists asking me in various languages, and with various degrees of politeness, for a cigarette. and when i told them that i didn't smoke, some of them got rather aggressive. which was not nice at all. in the end (around 3:45) the bus came, and i got on. the only other people there were two dodgy looking men who were staring at me all journey long, and waited until i got off before they did. so i walked home from the bus stop the long but well lit way, and eventually they stopped following me. hearing 'dylan in the movies' in the club hadn't helped - 'it's not your money, boy...' by the time i got into bed i was a nervous wreck, and i kind of wished i hadn't given up smoking, so i'd be able to calm my nerves. oh well. i didn't get to sleep immediately, so i put on the beautiful lord antony (that and winter wooksie are my current faves) and drifted off. ...but it was all worth it, all the trouble and all the uncontrolled racing away of the heart beat. i had a great time in the club, seeing all the lovely sinister people i'd met at the picnic again. and seeing the video for 'there is a light and it never goes out' was a highlight as well. next time, though, there is NO WAY that i'm going to walk through soho all alone at three in the morning - shit, if it's that scary on a monday night i hate to think about what it's like on a friday or saturday... anyway, hope this hasn't bored you all. sorry if it has. looking forward to seeing some of you again at godspeed you... on thursday, or at the poetry cafe on friday. bye for now, love Marcus XXX ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Tue Jul 13 16:21:17 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:21:17 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Search:Steve Malkmus;you're a star In-Reply-To: <9731b38c.24bbf837@aol.com> Message-ID: Oh! How could I miss those 120mins or better said, only the maybe three minutes,or maybe just seconds of that vision of the epythome of cool boyishness and good looks called Steve Malkmus.My man.I once had to classify in order who I fancied most if Steve , Alex or Jeremy (family names not required when you are one of them), and after a long and ardous deliberation my brain cells agreed he was the number one. But he was not wearing that baby blue outfit,we have been told.It was someone else.I am not interested any longer,then,whatever that means a youthquake of study-at-stow's t-shirts in Peoria from now onwards even giving rise to several volumes written by brainy sociologists analysing the case. I guess fountainhead must be someone in The Chemistry Experiment, say hello to Steve then! I will try to go and see the gig, but it is not sure yet. My ardient defense of Mr Malkmus as the most charming male act on a stage is going to crash with those , as Marcus , I believe,and the one and only Mr Teapot Stout who think nobody can snatch such a title from Stu Murdoch's boxer hands.Mr Stout reckons he has found the closest to Stu on earth in one of our neighbours at the Physics department.If someone is interested, I think he is currently single and very keen on photography, and yes, he really holds a resemblance,it is not Robin being too imaginative. Stop talking rubbish,Arantxa... your favourite sad witch +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From macarthur at xxx.com Tue Jul 13 16:38:12 1999 From: macarthur at xxx.com (Graham MacArthur) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:38:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Reality - I don't think so, not yet. Message-ID: Popkids, My friend Hannah and I took a bus to the next little town away from hertford yesterday, and on the way back an old man fell asleep on her shoulder and dribbled. I havent laughed so much since I saw John Otway on the Glastonbury coverage, shagging the floor with a drum machine down his pants. I've been wanting to mention John Otway for weeks - did anyone else see this? I laughed for about ten minutes, and then laughed some more. Then I went to bed and couldn't sleep because I kept bursting into fits of giggles. Theres nothing better for a sad head, is there? Than *really* laughing. I've been wanting to mention Hefner too - they're. If you havent bought anything of theirs, why not? I was watching something quite late on bbc2 last night, where they said radio one layer so many sounds over the actual records and the djs actual voices, you're actually hearing "Go, go now, go to the record shop and buy the new Boyzone single. get in the car. go" about three layers in. Is that why I've been craving after Steps? I expect Pete Waterman knows all about subliminal messages. My photo has now been added to the sinister photo page - fame at last! it's blurry and arty, and it looks like I'm not wearing any clothes. Which I am, I'd like to add. If you've voted for me in the listcrush, will you tell me who you are? I'm so bored. Erica x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Tue Jul 13 18:29:16 1999 From: johnj at xxx.com (JJ) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 18:29:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Rolling back the prices Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990713182916.007aa2a0@mail.u-net.com> Just so you know, they are selling Tigermilk in Asda! Odd place to see it, really. It's 11.99 and it's at no.52 in their chart. Which might not mean anything at all. I think it might chart a bit higher in the proper chart at the end of the week. Finally got the Pernice Brothers album 'Overcome by Happiness' at the weekend, you really should all get it, it's wonderful. That is all for now, I have spoken. JJ xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steve at xxx.uk Tue Jul 13 19:53:58 1999 From: steve at xxx.uk (Steve Genge) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:53:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk giveway the end! References: <3.0.6.32.19990713182916.007aa2a0@mail.u-net.com> Message-ID: <011a01becd61$236e3720$8ee5989e@wphnvffu> Good evening, Thanks to everyone who got in touch with either Amanda or myself. We'll be contacting you all within the next day. The giveaway has now given way though so the only reason to look at our web pages now is to look at our webpages :o) JJ wrote: > Finally got the Pernice Brothers album 'Overcome by Happiness' at the > weekend, you really should all get it, it's wonderful. You really should & while you're at it check out anything you can find by Joe Pernice's previous band The Scud Mountain Boys. byebye steve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From memon at xxx.com Tue Jul 13 21:31:23 1999 From: memon at xxx.com (A. Memon) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 21:31:23 +-100 Subject: Sinister: W1 nights Message-ID: <01BECD77.34269A60@host62-172-94-213.btinternet.com> Hello everybody, Nice to have the day off work after Tigermilking. No, I didnt do a sickie, (no need to Katrina - read on) or anything like that. I walked into work, and my boss told me I looked pale. I said, "Well, I feel kinda rough," which was the truth. I was dead tired - it took me nearly two hours on the N18 nightbus to get home. So she sent me home! Bless her little cotton socks, if she was wearing some. Oh, bless her anyway. Like the journey Marcus had on his way in to Tigermilking, I had to side step violent arguments, avoid the gaze of hustlers and keep my wits about me on a MONDAY night. I wondered if Friday night could be any safer by being populated with people having fun, but that would probably magnetise the bad, seedy side of Soho by 100% as well. Well, Tigermilking for me was a safe haven for a good few hours. I saw plenty of familiar faces, faces from gigs and faces I couldnt exactly place (me thinks I will have to make the next picnic). I think Paul (?) from Track and Field was there too. If it was him he didnt have his glasses on. Lots of happy popkids, and ironic metallers. It felt like the Bowlie club nights. Everywhere a happy face. Some unexpected tunes they played: Kylie - Confide in Me Guns 'n' Roses - Sweet Child O Mine and Paradise City (the latter was played so people could rock out and win goodies) Kraftwerk - The Model (one of two songs I knew ALL the lyrics to yesterday. the other was Primal Scream's Come Together - I'm hopeless with lyrics) Motorhead - Ace of Spades Some more expected tunes I enjoyed: Super Furry Animals - Hometown Unicorn B&S - Seeing Other People Pulp - Mishapes Stone Roses - I Wanna Be Adored David Bowie - Starman + more I cant recall. And the video projections did indeed show previously unknown B&S footage (they were in a studio at one point), Pavement, Buzzcocks, and a vast amount of Suede was heard and shown. I noticed that as I'm not overly keen on Suede. I can't remember the names of the people I met, only someone called +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From memon at xxx.com Tue Jul 13 21:52:41 1999 From: memon at xxx.com (A. Memon) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 21:52:41 +-100 Subject: Sinister: W1 nights (hopefully this will have the end) Message-ID: <01BECD7E.71A71020@host5-171-251-55.btinternet.com> sorry - i'm sending this again as it just arrived in my inbox without an end. dunno why it did that. if it happens again, i'll leave it as it is. Hello everybody, Nice to have the day off work after Tigermilking. No, I didnt do a sickie, (no need to Katrina - read on) or anything like that. I walked into work, and my boss told me I looked pale. I said, "Well, I feel kinda rough," which was the truth. I was dead tired - it took me nearly two hours on the N18 nightbus to get home. So she sent me home! Bless her little cotton socks, if she was wearing some. Oh, bless her anyway. Like the journey Marcus had on his way in to Tigermilking, I had to side step violent arguments, avoid the gaze of hustlers and keep my wits about me on a MONDAY night. I wondered if Friday night could be any safer by being populated with people having fun, but that would probably magnetise the bad, seedy side of Soho by 100% as well. Well, Tigermilking for me was a safe haven for a good few hours. I saw plenty of familiar faces, faces from gigs and faces I couldnt exactly place (me thinks I will have to make the next picnic). I think Paul (?) from Track and Field was there too. If it was him he didnt have his glasses on. Lots of happy popkids, and ironic metallers. It felt like the Bowlie club nights. Everywhere a happy face. Some unexpected tunes they played: Kylie - Confide in Me Guns 'n' Roses - Sweet Child O Mine and Paradise City (the latter was played so people could rock out and win goodies) Kraftwerk - The Model (one of two songs I knew ALL the lyrics to yesterday. the other was Primal Scream's Come Together - I'm hopeless with lyrics) Motorhead - Ace of Spades Some more expected tunes I enjoyed: Super Furry Animals - Hometown Unicorn B&S - Seeing Other People Pulp - Mishapes Stone Roses - I Wanna Be Adored David Bowie - Starman + more I cant recall. And the video projections did indeed show previously unknown B&S footage (they were in a studio at one point), Pavement, Buzzcocks, and a vast amount of Suede was heard and shown. I noticed that as I'm not overly keen on Suede. I can't remember the names of the people I met, only someone called Nicola. She was stuck on The Electric Sound of Joy from the Earworm Records cd compilation. So I thoroughly enjoyed riding the bus home early from work today. My friend from Blackburn had sent me a tape of his band, Tom Paulin and it's easily said they're influenced by the B&S sound (I also know his other reference points - Sonic Youth for one). His music on my walkman and the morning had made me realise I'd forgotten how peaceful 10:30am can be. There are lots of things I dont get to witness whilst at work. Hitchhikers wanting to disappear up the M1. Old folks ruling the streets. Schoolboys skiving. Brent Cross shopping centre breathing easy. Perfect atmosphere for my ever-worrying mind. When I got home and finally fell asleep after watching a previously taped Louis Theroux episode, (the Black Activists) I woke up to Gram Parsons singing "Hot Burrito #1" which was Emmylou Harris's choice for Music of the Millenium. Everything had turned out just right. It always does. I'll read you all later, Amos PS Marcus - I'm going to see Godspeed on Thursday after seeing Princess Anne in the morning. I'll contact you to see if you'd like to meet up. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mickcooke at xxx.com Tue Jul 13 23:15:31 1999 From: mickcooke at xxx.com (mickcooke at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 18:15:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: New Belle and Sebastian Band Website Message-ID: <9907131815313D.04958@webb2.iname.net> Hello all, This is my first mail to Sinister! Just wanted to let you know that I have put the newly-updated B&S band website online. It's still at the old URL: http://www.myspace.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ I say it's been updated, but it's not entirely up to date. I still have to get stuff from three of the band, but that'll probably happen sometime soon (in the same way that the sun will implode soon). There's photos, news, top10s (contributions welcome- check out Keith Watson's top10 of 70's Who songs), links and all that stuff, plus contributions from band members, excluding the three that couldn't be arsed- sorry that should read 'haven't got round to it'- yet. Anyway, the general plan is to keep it updated on a regular basis. And to get contributions from you lot. If anyone has any suggestions for extra pages, etc, mail me at the address given on the website: bellesite at lycosmail.com That's about all I can say just now. Hope you're all well and that, Cheers, Mick Cooke +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From justin at xxx.com Tue Jul 13 23:45:34 1999 From: justin at xxx.com (Justin Williams) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:45:34 -0500 Subject: Sinister: an elephant's memory Message-ID: <4.1.19990713173327.009f2800@delafont.com> Just out of desperation disguised behind curiosity, are there any sinisterines from the oklahoma, u.s. area? I know the chances are greater of me finding an alien in my backyard, but my search goes on for both nonetheless. Anyways, I await the impending silence that is sure to come =) Take care... Justin W Felonius Monk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fountainhead at xxx.net Wed Jul 14 00:48:07 1999 From: fountainhead at xxx.net (fountainhead) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:48:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: fitter happier and more productive Message-ID: <039901becd8a$9e366b20$383d63c3@oemcomputer> hello isn't it hot at the moment? too hot, actually. whenever we used to get sunny days on holiday in ireland i would always sit inside to read. it was nicer there. everyone called me a vampire though. maybe i am. i hate it when it's too hot. maybe i'm just bitter because i don't tan [white-red-white] but whenever it was hot outside, it would always be really cool in the house. so i would stand by the window and look out over the bay. there's this little island out there called 'mutton island' nobody lives there, but there's an old ruin of a castle on it. i looked over at that place for seventeen or eighteen years, without ever being able to go. my mum had done the same for forty-five years. then one day we went over. some fishermen took us over in their boats in the morning, and collected us in the evening. that was one of the hottest days ever. but, oddly, i didn't mind being outside all day. it was so clean and quiet over there. we found a huge rock pool that we could swim in, it was like something you only see on a distant paradise. but there it was, on a little island, by a little ireland. we had our picnic on the rocks and i listened to rem on my personal stereo (this was pre b&s, for me anyway). it was a special day. forgive me. i'm wandering again. i've just been looking at everyone's pictures on the sinister page. f. -- http://fly.to/fountain +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From XbeambugX at xxx.com Wed Jul 14 04:51:12 1999 From: XbeambugX at xxx.com (XbeambugX at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:51:12 EDT Subject: Sinister: its just your imagination rolling over the past Message-ID: <18600bae.24bd6330@aol.com> my lovely sinister friends. ive crawled out from under my fingerpainting for the night just to share with you all. it takes much to pull me away from fingerpaints... so. yah. ill leave it at that. :) my foremost reason for posting this night is to make a plea for a glasgow meet-up in october. moving to the states some years ago, i am venturing back as i do every year. unlike most years, though, i will be amongst my family for the likeness of a month... and in the city no less. so i declare a meetup would really make me smile. if my aunt still has my goofy purple bike... ill be riding that about the town. i only hope the white basket on the handlebars with silly plastic flowers is still intact. i didnt order/buy/ listen (to) the "new" tigermilk yet. im so fond of my copy that i wish to not get a new one. i dont know. it feels too awkward. it makes me feel.... olde. erm, well, something along those lines. change and i, we dont get along too well at times. fountainhead mentioned [ohh how i love the ayn rand]: my dear, you are not alone. i despise the heat. it makes me cranky. generally, im quite nice. but get me in the hot sun and i become oh.... well... not so nice. and who DOES get tan anymore?? oh the sun is just evil. i would rather wear sweaters all summer. and shorts... i own none. is this too much information? perhaps. justin w.[of felonius monk fame] asked for other oklahoma-sinsterines. im not one. but i do live in ohio. well, thats far away from oklahoma. but are their any other sinister kids in ohio? im willing to bet not. but we shall see.... well... miss marie is here in spirit! arent you, dear? i have this tradition, every night that the stars [in the sky] are visible. i sit outside and gaze up and name them... sometimes goofy names, sometimes friends names.... oh you know. just names. some i see often, like the star i named "rosie" [who bears the same name as my car... bless her]. and some i dont... like "beauford." he doesnt come out much. i found it odd tonight because i am losing track of where my stars reside. (so ive been doing this for years, obviously. should i be seeking professional help?) alright. my fingerpaints are calling for me. i just must finish this last piece.... loves. amanda. *where always its Spring) and everyones in love and flowers pick themselves.* ---e.e.cummings +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ISawUfall at xxx.com Wed Jul 14 06:56:53 1999 From: ISawUfall at xxx.com (ISawUfall at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:56:53 EDT Subject: Sinister: Pernice Bros.(love my way) Message-ID: <2a863839.24bd80a5@aol.com> i was wondering if anyone here had heard their version of the furs' "love my way" from the clearspot single and, if so, whether it was worth the price of purchase.... is it good...eh? -dave cass. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ISawUfall at xxx.com Wed Jul 14 07:00:53 1999 From: ISawUfall at xxx.com (ISawUfall at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:00:53 EDT Subject: Sinister: BLUEBOY Message-ID: <1263a9e9.24bd8195@aol.com> does anyone have all BLUEBOY's stuff, barring BANK of England ('twas abysmal, methinks)....my copy of UNISEX is almost dead and i want to have a nice little collection of their stuff(EPs, etc).....anyone out there with these things?...and willing to make copies? i would pay someone handsomely for these tasty bits....yes, indeed. -dave cass! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ScoDog1441 at xxx.com Wed Jul 14 09:28:21 1999 From: ScoDog1441 at xxx.com (ScoDog1441 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 04:28:21 EDT Subject: Sinister: Q. Whats got three legs, five arms and sits up a tree dribbling? Message-ID: <2f69a53c.24bda425@aol.com> Answer at the bottom of this mail. Well my Sini's, i have hearby claimed the office record for the longest continued CD repeat, with Tigermilk having managed to take pride of place as our hold music for Friday, Monday, Tuesday and today. A grand total of, oooh, lots of days. God bless CD's. It means that i can again listen to said recording in the car for the first time since some very nice people 'borrowed' my car cassette player. for the 2nd time. With this facility in mind, i attempted to convert some more non-believers on Sunday with a four hour round trip from Milton Keynes to Stroud and that ol' repeat function turned on. Needless to say it didnt work and i had them begging for the top 40 all the way home. "Sorry, cant hear you in the back, the musics too loud" ahahaha. What else did i want to say. Oh yes, thanks to those who answered my request for sinister Blackpool ideas. Im playing there again this weekend and Sky Sports are recording, so i'll try and get a b&s t-shirt on to give you all a reason to stop watching MTV and start Scottydog spotting. Having been a bit liberal with the delete key, i cant remember who the said the following. To the person who said they'd been in the AOL music chat room: Dont go there (go to #sinister instead !). And to the person who mis-heard "The centre of my so called penis...": Keep on mis-hearing. And anyone who wants to know the answer to the subject line teaser can mail me. Scottydogboredatworkwhyyeshowcanyoutell +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.net Wed Jul 14 12:36:00 1999 From: rebelstrange at xxx.net (Lesley J Miller) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 04:36:00 -0700 Subject: Sinister: enjoy an ice -cold beverage Message-ID: <002701becded$0cd9dbe0$1811020a@rebelstrange> hey all you wack-ass bee-atches, i was dismayed to find confusion about the diary nature of hte list. i'd have to say that the always gorgeous Mark summed it up rather well. i think it's nice that ppl feel comforted enough by the list to talk at ease about their lives. and *most* of us enjoy reading those little dramas about everyday. at least i do. adn BOO to anyone who doesn't (oh you knwo what i mean) and a double BOO! to Genteel Babes-bashers, for the 'Waves, as i'm sure the kids willb e calling them in the next issue of TeenStyleFascist, rool FO-Evah. and christa agrees with me, so NYAH NYAH!!! any ppl gonna be in DC for Looper or magnetic fields? it appears i shall be attending both soirees, along wiht my buxom floozy bandmate Christa (miss chaffinch if yer nasty), and xavier-- i will shout out a hearty hello if i see you there, and we will indeed party like it's 1999, behold, there will be much rejoicing, and Stephin will look upon it, and he will see that it IS good. gawd i'm so nervous about seeing stephin in the flesh.. i'm afraid he'll yell at me or something, or give me a dirty look like he gave teri. only i mourn for my partner in twee cryme, jess is unable to be there. *quiet sobbing is heard* i'll steal a lock of stephin's hair for you, dear. i'm glad someone is enjoying my romantic follies, or should i say pseudo-romantic. god i sound like an ass tonight, please forgive me. *ugh* i sound like such an imbecile, i swear i'm not as full of my bad self as i appear to be, i just have an over=tart tongue. maybe i will take some more photos of looper and MF's and have another web sight of pictures for the world to see. that would be lovely indeed. bless the beasts and children, LJ http://www.members.tripod.com/rebelstrange "Strong like a gorilla, yet soft and yielding like a NERF ball" SAVE MST3K!!!! http://www.mst3kinfo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Wed Jul 14 14:26:12 1999 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Brian Pennington) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:26:12 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Looper in-store in NYC @ Other Music, Tigermilk review, No-one's looking Message-ID: <378C8FF4.7E0B4DEC@ohiou.edu> Hiya, Maybe I just didn't notice it/know about it, but I was surprised to find no one had mentioned this. I was even more surprised to find something of value in one of these mass mailouts. Not like the Parasol or Darla updates which have the things you can buy. But I digress: > Other Music News: > > Two big in-store performances are announced this week for our NYC-area > customers and those of you who might be in town on these days. Please > note that all of our in-stores are free of charge, but admission is > limited. Attendance at these two shows is expected to be large (a > mob-scene really), so arrive early to insure that you get in. > > SPAIN: Monday, July 19th at 8 p.m. > Performing in support of their brand new album "She Haunts My Dreams" > (see review below). > > LOOPER: Monday, July 26th at 8 p.m. > The bubbly electronic side project of Belle & Sebastian's Stuart David > and wife Karn Also there was a review of Tigermilk which I'll post... BELLE & SEBASTIAN "Tigermilk" (Matador/Jeepster/Electric Honey) CD/LP $11.99/$16.99 The long, long-awaited reissue of the now-legendary first album by Scotland's Belle & Sebastian demonstrates the kind of song writing magic that almost justifies the cult-like adoration they've received from their many fans. While the nay-sayers will grumble that they still don't "get it" (what's to "get" about perfectly realized pop with lyrical substance?), the converted will gladly put aside their nth generation tape copies for a chance to own this newly remastered version of an already classic LP. Let's be blunt here, "Tigermilk" is a much better record than Belle & Sebastian's latest, the slightly disappointing and uneven "The Boy With the Arab Strap". And it's arguably as good as "If You're Feeling Sinister," their second full-length. The difference is that on "Tigermilk", principal songwriter Stuart Murdoch is firmly in control. Here you won't find the flat-out embarrassment of "Seymour Stein" or "Chickfactor" that marred "Arab Strap" when other band members decided to contribute their own songs. Instead we're treated to some of the band's finest moments ever including the sublime "My Wandering Days Over". The trumpet solo on that one alone is worth the $12 price of admission. Sorry for the bad formatting. I got my CD from them yesterday, or rather Megan picked it up for me while I was at work. When I got it I thought TWATTYBUS was my fave. Not so sure now...but Tigermilk is definately my least fave as an album. As little as I like Chickfactor, I like You're Just a Baby even less. I'd say Tigermilk is the most uneven for me, contrary to this review, but also it contains some of the best songs. Anyway, just my two cents. With that I shall depart. Psst, this is my first post from work. No one's here to see me typing. Haha. I had a job at an office once, but all I ever did was sit around... Signatureless Pocketbook Angel, Mick McMick +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alan.singfield at xxx.com Wed Jul 14 15:28:01 1999 From: alan.singfield at xxx.com (Alan Singfield) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:28:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk statue Message-ID: <6357CBA4ECC4D211A67C00805FD787D7065CC1@shuban.isoftplc.com> We should find a beech tree and carve "NC was here" on it (New Cd?). Then, on the branches, we can hang the cassettes, daisy chained by cutting the tape and tying it. Then if we can borrow a copy of the real (and now deflated in value) Tigermilk and stick it at the top of the tree, we will have a representation of the interconnectedness of the whole tigermilk thing. Around the sculpture, people can mingle by comparing the scratches and skips they have on their copies. It would be worth any statesman's money to hear the profound discussions that sometimes took place; "oh yes at the start of i could be dreaming it sounds like there's a bit of fluff on the needle" At the end of the ceremony, we can cut all the tapes down and give everyone theirs back, but with a little knot of someone elses copy on it. (A kind of blood brotherhood of bootleggers). Anyway, most sensible people will cut the tape in the middle of Electronic Renaiisance, so no damage done there. Tune in next time for more entertainment, !P!O!P! kids... Spanners. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlearsonist at xxx.com Wed Jul 14 16:06:24 1999 From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 08:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk statue Message-ID: <19990714150624.15550.rocketmail@web114.yahoomail.com> --- Alan Singfield wrote: > Anyway, most sensible people will > cut the tape in the middle of Electronic > Renaiisance, so no damage done there. oh, dear. i just can't take this. just as lesley jo will fiercly come to the defense of her beloved isobel, i feel i can no longer keep quiet at the abuse that Electronic Renaissance is taking. what is wrong with you popkids? can't you appreciate the pure synthesized beauty? the petshopboys-ness of it? the way struan's silvery vocals cut and shimmer and echo through layers of pure dance beats? sheesh! i cue my tape up so that E.R. is the first song when i go for a drive... *sigh* i suppose i can't convince you all... anyway, i have not received my tigermilk yet. ordered it from jeepsta, i did. even though i knew it'd be quicker to buy it at tower or some such corporate monster here in newyork... i like foreign post! but i will never give up my crappy tape -- first off, it has catpower and the sonora pine on the second side. also, what if i don't like tigermilk when i can actually hear the music? you know, something like, "i liked the state i am in better when i thought there was no guitar for the first half".... ah, and speaking of the gentle waves -- and i Was, so there! -- i finally heard it, thanks to kimmy (kiss kiss, darling!). and, as i have been telling all who care to listen, they are indeed gentle and wavy. standouts are the first track (hangman something or other), weathershow, and that mathiew song. but jeez -- if i'd heard the weathershow single and then bought the album, i'd be kind of weirded out. like, i was sort of napping on the train to work yesterday, listening to the album, all tree lullabyes and such -- and boom! jarred awake by weathershow. messed with my head quite a bit. okay, you lot. i'm being firm: no more ragging on Electronic Renaissance, a'ight? or i'll come get sinister on ya... xoxo, marie, in ohio in spirit, and still looperticket-less. === ************************************************************** * "I was a proper snob in college, as only a * * future lifetime English major can be" - b. glass (j.d.s.) * ************************************************************** "to me she was just marie." -mersault. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Wed Jul 14 16:06:18 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 08:06:18 PDT Subject: Sinister: I love it when we`re cruising to-gether Message-ID: <19990714150620.74280.qmail@hotmail.com> Heloooo List, That poor soul Marcus`s post was very funny...now,I`m not laughing at your misfortunes in London,but I can just imagine all the incidents. Ok,in my village it must be population 100 or 200 or so,yes peacefull countryside,but one day (when I thought my brother was chasing me) a loud van drove up with heavy-metal music playing and threw a porn magazine at me. ("That`s a good way to pick up chicks!")At the time I was scared and ran all the way back home,but now I wish I had taken it (not to look at it silly,but to steal it from them)and spat on their van,like a tough woman.Or that fabulous "Next Karate Kid" sequence where the girl jumps up on the hood of the car in fabulous Flying Killer mode. Ah,the strange things,yes. I really dont know why I am so perky right now, I should be crying on the inside. I have come back from working it for days in the Gospel Tent.Rise up! I can`t stop clapping for Jesus and it`s really working the other family members nerves.But really...the Bluesfest was amazing..I saw Smokey Robinson and I still have the shivers...there`s just something SOMETHING about him! Hot Damn! He dances and he does that little teasey button thing (un-buttons one button at a time,very slowly) removes jacket,swings it around.And he coos to the audience. "Oh yes..sing it out cause you`re so beautiful" I couldn`t contain my yelps and shreiks,and a bitter old man warned me that "If you dont move Missy,I will move you." I could`ve rattled his lawn chair,but I have respect for my elders. (Right MOTHER? like the GOOD,OBDIENT daughter that I AM) Smokey also does "Feelgood" contests with the audience..."Alright,do you feel good? heh heh..ok ok..mmmmm yes" Eeep..you`ve all been out Tigermilking and..I feel guility.I`ve been sleeping around on Belle and Sebastian! Oh its true,its true.I came into the crowd early to catch Smokey,and wound up seeing this AMAZING blues guy,whom I`d never heard of before,but I`m like his biggest fan now. Bobby Rush. Does anyone else know anything about him? Why wasn`t I told about him before? He`s 64,he`s made like 250 albums(!)He was in the studios recording before my dad was even born.. and I just cant get over him. Ok,his lyrics aren`t as sensitive as Stuarts. (e.g "line up 35 women,I will make love to them all" "buttermilk bottom")What a performer though! This guy wears tight blue flares,HUGE glittering diamond belt and hawaiian shirt.He jumps into the audience,shakes (err,caresses?) your hand.I have been looking for real audio on him and all I could find was "I Need A Bed Partner".Help me. You know what`s eerie though? I was searching for information on his album "Lovin A Big Fat Woman" on the internet,and this came up instead:(im not joking,it really did come up instead) htttp://www.cyber-tec.com/roy/ Its like some thug sent by Stuart Murdoch to tell me to stop messing around in this blues nonsense.But it`s ok,we can ALL live in Utah together. There are 2 great new webpages out there...Good work Mick "Sexual Eyebrows" Cooke and Sleeka Sounds Corporation! I thouroughly enjoyed the Top 10`s (good choices by Chris Geddes) and of course, 70`s WHO which I know nothing about,but I`ve decided I`m going to hear this Sister Disco song.Anyways,let me tell you,I feel inspired. lovvvve, mrs genevieve david-rush-murdoch-cooke ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.cullen at xxx.com Wed Jul 14 16:18:42 1999 From: p.cullen at xxx.com (Paula Cullen) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:18:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: heeeeathcleeeef, its meeee, your catheeee, i've come ho-o-o-me, Message-ID: <01BECE14.8AACC9C0.p.cullen@music-control.com> hello peeps, i have come to the conclusion that you london types are trying to keep me away from yr picnics ;) (marcus, what *have* you been telling them?) i missed the last one by two days, i arrive in london one day *after* the swedish (!) picnic and leave again just in time to miss the next one. grrrrrrrrrrrrrreatttt :( (as tony the tiger would say) therefore, i propose that somebody throws a picnic, in my honour, while i am in london. nothing fancy mind, i am a girl of simple tastes. you could maybe get some smoked salmon in though, i like that. :) you will of course, have to bring me boozegifts a plenty (anything but beer) actually, fuck it, go on, i'll drink anything. thanking you for your kindness in advance ;) on a different subject altogether, i watched an entire episode of "ally mcbeal" last night for the first time....EVER. christ on a yamaha scooter! its REALLY bad, isn't it? that is one WHOLE HOUR of my life that i can NEVER get back. not that i'd want it *now*.......... on another tangent, i nearly killed a woman in the local swimming pool last night. (im on a bit of a health kick at the moment. by the time you see me at atp's, i will be a ringer for kate moss. with a slightly less attractive head, however) anyway, i digress. i wouldn't be exactly what you'd call a brilliant swimmer, i have been described as swimming "like a washing machine" ie a *LOT* of thrashing about whilst not covering very much distance. :) so there i was, beating the hell out of the water when this old woman kinda got entangled in my flailing limbs. because my ears were all watery and i couldn't hear her bloodcurdling screams (*and* i was all determined to reach the other side without stopping) i, um, sort of just kept bashing away until she..........................................died. no not really, i just made that bit up for effect. but she did have to "rest" in the shallow end for a while. :) later, babes, paula cullen booze explosion booooze!!!! yeeeaaahh!!! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Wed Jul 14 16:33:45 1999 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksAndAJill) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:33:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Electronic Renaissance Man Message-ID: <199907141533.LAA29006@dept.english.upenn.edu> Right on to Maria Elia, "Electronic Renaissance" is the muthafuckin' bomb-ass track on the album--one of them, anyway. I think of it as more Factory-esque though (not a guitar in sight, cool!), very "Procession" by newOrder I thought. They just don't get as synthy or even as varied in sound on subsequent albums. Shame. "I Don't Love Anyone"--separated at birth from Felt's "Mobile Shack"? I like how this album really rocks at times, it's almost garagey. "You're Just A Baby" could've easily been done by the Stones or some sneery early '60s band with fuzz pedals and 'tude. (If y'all have been reading my thoughts on this on the b&s/New Order newsgroups or the i-pop list I apologize for my redundancy.) Speaking of synths, which I was, I *will* be in DC on the 24th to see *the* electronic renaissance man amplifier himself, Stephen Merritt and his Magnetic Fields. Hopefully he will have his triple(!)-album for sale at the show. Yeah Lesley, my guess is if you're trying to talk to him and you aren't a young effeminate boy (like myself) you may get yelled at! I think you'll be fine in achieving your goal... I will not sing your ugly song, Xavier BXK bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu | www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 It's what kind of hair you have on the inside that counts.--G.S. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seyfert7 at xxx.com Wed Jul 14 17:10:19 1999 From: seyfert7 at xxx.com (jesi bell) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:10:19 PDT Subject: Sinister: pure entertainment Message-ID: <19990714161020.6717.qmail@hotmail.com> I must congratulate the last lot of post-ers, because I thoroughly enjoyed reading them all. Not that all sinister posts aren't entertaining, but who are we joking...some of them do go on a wee bit.... Being at work and bored out of my mind, I always search for something to get me through those last hours. I read two posts about Magnetic Fields, which makes me quite jealous, seeing as i'm on the wrong side of the ocean presently. The defense for Electronic Renaissance perked me up too, since i (first time admitting this) have actually been able to stand dance-y kinda electronic-y music lately and do enjoy ER at the right moments. (I always like different songs more at different times....especially the beatles...they're a real need-to-be-in-the-right-moment-band, well usually) Then people got a bit agressive, actually shocking me, by using the fu** word 3 times i believe (possibly only twice) in only five posts. I was also entertained by the tree-tape-monument-statue story. Wonderful image that is, but i too don't think i could give up my wobbly muffled Tigermilk tape. And Genevieve's story of the blues took me home. Once you are in the presence of old wonders like that, you have to stop and catch your breath. I know..... Cheese, I don't have anything original to say, but I will try to for next time. Cheers to the lot of ya.... ***********lee ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Jul 14 17:18:33 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 18:18:33 +0200 Subject: Sinister: 10 Roddington Place Message-ID: <01bece14$85c68400$LocalHost@itjfvkli> The reason "unusual" songs end up on film soundtracks is because some joey at the film company thinks to themselves wouldn't it be good if their favourite group were on the telly or in the cinema. That is the only possible explanation I can find for the inclusion of so many 70s WHO songs on the soundtrack to "Quadrophenia", which is clearly set in the 60s. I like proper film soundtracks done by proper composers, such as Quincy Jones, Burt Bacarach, Don Bradman or Henley Regatta. But what I like most of all is not knowing who did the music because it's written in funny Iranian squiggley writing, like the film I went to see yesterday, "Don". I also like a bloke on a Wurlitzer coming up out of the stage, but you hardly ever get that nowadays, worse luck. Well done to Chris Leonard and new listee Mick Cooke for their excellent new websites. I don't think it would be going too far to say that they both have the potential to eventually become essential. The Stuart Murdoch Fan Site is fantastic, and will be even better once every single one of you has gone and made a little contribution. What do you like best about Stuart Murdoch? And who does he look like? Go on, run along and do it now. MIck's site not only boasts Keith's fascinating and provocative 70s WHO top ten, it also has a whole section entitled "WHO", which shows great devotion to the cause. This section houses a very nice autobigraphical piece by Stuart Lee Murdosch, which every self-respecting B&S fan will want to read and learn by heart. It's really very nice, I hope it's the first installment of a full length autobiography. I tried to send in my local politicians top ten, but I could only think of 4, and I don't think they were of much interest to anybody, so I binned that idea. But you can send in your top ten anything you like, so come on, get stuck in! I've visited the DROOLZ site as well, but I haven't recovered enough to comment yet. I've wonn tickets to the South Pyrenees music festival, where I shall see, God willing, touch wood, Ernest Ranglin, the Jamaican guitar legend who arranged and played on "My Boy Lollipop", as well as lots of other fantastic records, such as "The Heart of the Congos" and some Jackie Mittoo records. It is half way up a bloody big mountain. You can stick your T in the Park up your arse, mate. Hands up who's jealous? Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Wed Jul 14 17:36:49 1999 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:36:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk Statue Message-ID: <802567AE.005B4460.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> Spanners wrote: >At the end of the ceremony, we can cut all the tapes down and give >everyone theirs back, but with a little knot of someone elses copy on it. (A >kind of blood brotherhood of bootleggers). Anyway, most sensible people will >cut the tape in the middle of Electronic Renaiisance, so no damage done >there. At this point I feel I ought to drag Peter Miller's fat face over here and make him open and close his mouth for me but not let any noise come out, because I am terrible at being speechless myself. Witness: I could be mistaken, but do I detect a casual slagging of 'Electronic Renaissance' from Spanners? Speak for yourself, matey. I know it's not the most objective arbiter of worth, but THAT SONG MADE ME CRY ONCE. I'm not normally one for self-consciously crap retro synth-led nonsense, but by gosh it works with this track. When I hear the boy Stuart utter the lines 'If you work for much very longer / You'll be known as the boy who's always working' and it echoes away into the void beyond, it never fails to bring about a strange shudder. The stuff about Funkadelic and saying hello is all a bit of nonsense but oooehoo maybe that's the point. I dunno. Maybe it's all a big joke and I'm an idiot, but I don't care. Didn't someone once say Stuart M recorded to prove to someone (maybe 'DJ Beans') that any fool could write this 'modern disco music' that goes down so well with the kids? I may have dreamed that. It's funny - Stuart always seemed too cool for obvious indie music leanings, but I get the impression that he isn't. I bet he's bought Shed Seven's Greatest Hits. Anyway, I think I only get cross when I hear people dismiss 'Electronic Renaissance' because I imagine that it's out of some indie guitar purity mindset. Of course it might be that people just don't like the track, which is fair enough (but wrong, obviously). After all, I'm not that keen on A Space Boy Dream myself... Generally, I have been being a hi-fi bore with the Tigermilk rerelease. I never knew there was so much in it! They must be very cross that they managed to perform such a feat in five days when they seem to need months to get it right these days. I mean, the tape I had before wasn't bad at all, but this is a revelation. So far I've not heard Stuart getting overexcited on his chair, though. Has anyone else? But really, the band play a stormer - get yourself a good set of headphones and listen to everything that's going on in 'The State That I Am In', for example. Organs, guitars, strings, vocal harmonies - all arranged by some kind of angel. Bugger perfect three minute pop songs - this one makes 4'56'' seem the only template worth bothering about. I don't know what I'm going on about. I'm just happy. However, I'll fight anyone who says it's their best album. It's a little jewel, but I really think that Stuart has really grown as a lyricist since then. I am beginning to see why the band weren't happy with the recording with If You're Feeling Kiddies. Despite it still being my favourite album (best consistent set of songs - and, I suppose, the album I fell in love with them to) it has got a kind of stripped down sound when you compare it to the others. Kind of good in a way, because it lets whole album hang together seamlessly, but I do wonder what a song like 'Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying' would sound like given a less weedy production. A Stax-style horn climax might be nice. Ooh, marie's just written in to to stick up for that disco nonsense too. Hurrah! Nick xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com Wed Jul 14 17:36:56 1999 From: Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com (Jim Schmidt) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 99 09:36:56 MST Subject: Sinister: alternate 'tigermilk' name Message-ID: <9906149319.AA931970402@mail.newtimes.com> well of course, i ran out and bought 'tigermilk' yesterday...i could feel my face light up when i saw the vinyl on display...and i went home, relaxed, smoked, put the vinyl down and opened one of the cd versions i purchased and felt odd, because it's kind of bizarre that in this day and age, it wasn't released on cd the first time around. so i felt like i was holding a bastard child, some strange mutant offspring of technology, like maybe i should just stick to my worn cassette--is this natural?!?--you know, that kind of feeling. anyway, i listened to it before bedtime and it was definitely euphoric to hear the clarity of instruments and new percussion bits lost on my bastard copy and to hold actual liner notes in my hand (rather than reading them off a computer screen). and then i started thinking about my favorite b&s songs, the ones which really hit me, the ones that i relate most to...and it occurred to me that they are all the title tracks from their other releases, and on their full-lengths, they appear in roughly the same position on the songlist (tbwtas is number 9, iyfs is number 7) which brings me to "my wandering days are over"...this has always been my favorite b&s song ...it falls in about the same place as the other full-length album title tracks (it's number 8)...and so my point is (and granted it's not very significant or even very interesting, really), that if their first album had not been called 'tigermilk', 'my wandering days are over' would've fit nicely (especially with the same cover art)... agree? disagree? don't care? sorry for the bother. i hate wednesdays. cheers.jim. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Heatrexo at xxx.com Wed Jul 14 18:28:12 1999 From: Heatrexo at xxx.com (Heatrexo at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:28:12 EDT Subject: Sinister: I'm in love with an inanimate object Message-ID: <8b64c7ae.24be22ac@aol.com> Hello. You'll all have to excuse me. I'm sick :-( and i don't have to work or do anything today so i was going to go out but now i just want to sit and mutter how bad i feel to myself. :-( Ohhhhh...but I did go on a wild-tigermilk-goose-chase yesterday. Which ended sucessfully. I'm in love with it. I was never privilaged enough to have a taped version of it so it's all new to me. it makes my eyes go wide. I especially like to do the twist to "You're Just a Baby" "Expectations" makes me most happy. urgh..i'm not feeling good.. sorry this email was purposeless:-( hopefully everyone is doing better than me.. already lost it, Heatherxoxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Wed Jul 14 18:49:08 1999 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 18:49:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: ear confection recordings website Message-ID: Hello again, Ear Confection Recordings is now 3 days old and to celebrate this its (primitive) website is now up and running at: www.send.demon.co.uk/index.htm At the moment there are no bands and no songs, but hey you can't have everything. Thanks for the offers of help I got. I doubt if you expected me to pounce on them like I did. Ho hum. And I like the idea suggested of it being a more communal thing so if anyone is interested there is a rant on the site about it. I guess some nice tunes would probably come in pretty handy too (the address for demos is on the site too). To other things. Yes the Tigermilk launch on Monday was a strange affair. The music was an eclectic mix and the dancing in a Belle and Sebastian-esque manner competitions were really quite bizarre. Maybe it was an alcohol consumption delusion thing but I also swear I saw Mark C shaking his thang to Britney Spears, or maybe it was just a beautiful dream. I also found Marcus's travel story very entertaining and made my run in with foriegn exchange students practicing methods of heat torture on my night bus seem like a trifling affair but I shall elaborate. They were running round the bus slamming all the windows shut whilst shouting "cold please" in the peak of our fine English summer. I thought they'll get a snotty cold soon enough if they stay around in England long enough. They were probably just showing off in a "you call this summer our fridges are set to this temperature at home" type way. I'm sure one of the blokes had mittens on as well which I thought was a bit much, but I guess he could have just have had really hairy hands. Ho hum. I got in at 5 am Tuesday morning knew I wouldn't make work, so have consequently had the last two days off work "sick". I think it's always more convincing if you're off two days. What fun. Listening to my Tigermilking CD which I was kindly allowed to blag on Monday. I'd never heard it before. Wow. Oh my, I've ranted again haven't I? I've also see my photos been added to the rogues gallery on the photo page. I'd like to apologise for exposing a naked shoulder, but I did have a sparkly boob tube on at the time which unfornately is out of shot. Te ra, Martin Ear Confection Recordings +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fountainhead at xxx.net Wed Jul 14 18:49:42 1999 From: fountainhead at xxx.net (fountainhead) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 18:49:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: the boy whos thoughts keep running away Message-ID: <027501bece26$6ca22f80$733763c3@oemcomputer> who said ayn rand? i've not actually read that book yet. one day i'm told it's good. the next day i'm told it isn't. i am not so well read. i took 'fountainhead' from the adorable song by the bluetones. today hasn't been as hot as yesterday :-) i still haven't got tigermilk :-( f. -- http://fly.to/fountain +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SSharp5210 at xxx.com Wed Jul 14 20:14:54 1999 From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:14:54 EDT Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk and badges.. Message-ID: <809fa53.24be3bae@aol.com> Hi poptarts ;) Being probably the only listee who had never heard Tigermilk I awaited mine arriving with some anticipation.I was muchly chuffed when it came this morning and it's been playing all day.It's superb (Although you already knew that) I just thought i would post and tell you that if you moan about t-shirt sizes on your order form the nice man at Jeepster sends you an extra large.Yay.It's not funny being overly tall.My Study at Stow exposes my belly button when I stretch.I think the tall-chap size is only available for the Rod and Emu one though. Righty ho,must mingle... Steve.Not terrific but competent.xxxxx. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Wed Jul 14 20:29:59 1999 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:29:59 EDT Subject: Sinister: (no subject) Message-ID: I struggled to get off my arse yesterday and pick up Tigermilk, but rest assured the mission was a success and I've been listening to it almost nonstop since then. Unlike most people on the list I never had a decrepit, much loved and whittled tape copy, and the only song from the album I had ever heard before yesterday was their version of "I Don't Love Anyone" from Bowlie. Needless to say I was bowled over. Wow, what a record. I have to agree with those who champion "My Wandering Days Are Over" as one of Struan's best works. I dig the key change at the end when his voice gets all reverb-y talking about the circus boy. I also happen to like "Electronic Renaissance" but Nick seems to have the defense of that one covered so I won't go any further. "She's Losing It" is also aces. The review that was posted about TBWTAS being disappointing and their worst effort to date, I will take umbrage at however. Personally I think TBWTAS is my fave. It may not be as solid and dependable as IYFS or as whimsical and ebulliant as Tigermilk, but something about the songwriting on that album and the production just knocks me out everytime I hear it (which is almost daily). If you look at just Struan's songs, I think its the best of the B&S albums. With tracks like "Rollercoaster Ride," "Brillant Career," "Sleep the Clock Around," "Ease Your Feet," and the title track...how can anyone call this album disappointing (not to mention "Wicked")? It definitely has its share of lowpoints, such as the much mailgned "Chickfactor" and the "what the hell were they thinking by putting this on the record" nominee "Spaceboy Dream," but its the high points on the record that just seem to dwarf any music I've ever heard. I've also noticed that the first B&S record you hear seems to remain your favorite forever no matter what comes later. Maybe its just that inital meeting with something so perfect and pure that no amount of songwriting chops can overthrow it. I mean, I love IYFS and Tigermilk and all the EPs, but its something about TBWTAS that will keep it atop the rest for whatever reason. Maybe I just like the image of "Beans" Geddes being impaled by French bread. Who knows? steve c. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlearsonist at xxx.com Wed Jul 14 21:02:17 1999 From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: (no subject) Message-ID: <19990714200217.18178.rocketmail@web135.yahoomail.com> --- Walkn10 at aol.com wrote: > Maybe I just like the image of "Beans" Geddes being > impaled by French bread. Who knows? shite! is That what it is? for real? forgive the 2 posts today, but i have to know this... [ducks head, begs forgiveness] xoxo, ree === ************************************************************** * "I was a proper snob in college, as only a * * future lifetime English major can be" - b. glass (jds) * ************************************************************** ********* "to me she was just marie." -mersault ********* _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fchabrier at xxx.fr Wed Jul 14 21:51:04 1999 From: fchabrier at xxx.fr (Flo) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 22:51:04 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Out of the nursery Message-ID: <015501bece3a$998667a0$145373c3@pbncomputer> Hiya ppl! It's my first post here and I hope I won't talk too much nonsense! It's been comforting to see at least 3 or 4 posts today supporting "Electronic Renaissance", which is one of my favourite tracks on "Tigermilk"! Anyhow, I still haven't got the CD because I blew all my money this weekend by going to Dour festival (Belgium) on Saturday to see the Supe Furry Animals. And 2 hours before they were supposed to play, the speaker came on stage to announce they'd cancelled :( I saw the lovely Delgados anyway, I don't consider them to be a great festival band but they were great, and Alun Woodward was as cute as ever :) Seeing Drugstore while drunk is always cool too! I suppose some of the Glasgow members of the list went to see Godspeed You Black Emperor! on Monday, since the topic was being discussed on the NG a while ago. I'm so jealous!!! GYBE! are so good, and Mogwai coming as surprise support.... that's unfair!!! Anyhow, I'll have some more of that nice white wine, and won't bore you any longer, I have to get ready to go out, 80s night in a club, no B&S, but it'll be cool! Flo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rgpietru at xxx.edu Thu Jul 15 01:17:32 1999 From: rgpietru at xxx.edu (B o b b y) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:17:32 -0400 Subject: Sinister: BLUEBOY n' B&S. Message-ID: >does anyone have all BLUEBOY's stuff, barring BANK of England >('twas abysmal, methinks)....my copy of UNISEX is almost dead and i want to >have a nice little collection of their stuff(EPs, etc).....anyone out there >with these things?...and willing to make copies? hello, i have "Unisex" , "if wishes were horses" and their first 7" on Shinky which are all brilliant. i'm with you on "bank of england" though. it reminds me of some sort of hack suede. shrug. i'd be willing to make copies of the other stuff, though i'm sure this is far from their complete collection. I thought this would be a good time as any to ask people's opinion of earlier Blueboy. to me they sound a whole lot like B&S, sonicly. (B&S are better song writers). but the arrangements, and even the vocals and almost exactly the same. the first time i heard 'if you're feeling sinister' i thought it was Blueboy that i hadn't heard before. shrug. -bobby. "I have nothing to say and I am saying it and that is poetry" rgpietru at student.berklee.edu http://enfant-sonology.iwarp.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Thu Jul 15 02:03:16 1999 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 21:03:16 EDT Subject: Sinister: (no subject) Message-ID: On the new B&S page the caption to the pic of Chris standing next to a TBWTAS poster reads "Beans and Baguette" which my poor recollection of French class translates to "French bread." Maybe they just meant it as a clever joke and its realy some other sort of handle and whatnot. Maybe Mick or Katrina can bless us with clarification? Adios steve c. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TheeXVirus at xxx.com Thu Jul 15 02:53:37 1999 From: TheeXVirus at xxx.com (TheeXVirus at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 21:53:37 EDT Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk statue Message-ID: <1860b676.24be9921@aol.com> i really like electronic renaissance, too. not as much as a few of the other songs on the album, but...whatever. j +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.net Thu Jul 15 10:19:30 1999 From: rebelstrange at xxx.net (Lesley J Miller) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 02:19:30 -0700 Subject: Sinister: is this the way the tigers do? Message-ID: <001f01becea3$25a64f80$2b11020a@rebelstrange> Paula "Booooze Really Satisfies!!!" Cullen made me laugh me arse off when she said: >on a different subject altogether, i watched an entire episode of "ally mcbeal" last night for the first time....EVER. christ on a yamaha scooter! its REALLY bad, isn't it? that is one WHOLE HOUR of my life that i can NEVER get back. Preach it to the masses, sista, we shall spread the word far and wide, ally mcbeal is indeed a piece of shoddy crap that makes me puke. cheers to the lovely, catpower-loving marie for defending the oft-maligned ER wiht a passion befitting that mama tiger milking her cubs..... Cheers to Genevieve for saying "Loving a Big Fat Woman" for the first time on sinister. Cheers to the tres-stylin and ultra chic MickCooke, master of that finest of instruments, the high and might trumpet, trumpeters unite!! for again i must mention that *I* am one!! ooh i'm so excited mick posted. he's SOOO dreamy!!! *sigh* *hearts fly out of her eyes* *enter the dreamy solo from "Wandering Days..."* speaking of swimming, which boozey paula did, i'm going swimming tomorrow, with that most frustrating of saucy teases, who would be art girl. i'm actualy going to wear a swimsuit. a 2-piece no less. FUCK on a yamaha scooter *?*. can you believe it? i'm goign to be so scared. not to mention amanda artgirl in a swimsuit? AY CARAMBA. the girl dont' know what pain she puts me through. i should go write a damn blues song about it. well anyway i'll tell you all how swimmingly my bathing suit went over. *ye gods* i haven't worn one since i was like 12 years old. i swear to god. I forgot to mention: i want to update the Wee World tribute to bel. anyone who doesnt' hate isobel, or the gentle waves, is encouraged to email me with thier observations. Hell. even if you HATE isobel--i can make a page of isobel slagging!! i'm not below doing that. the wee world needs some thrilling action if it's to keep up wiht sleeka's wunnerful stuey lovefest page. so TALK TO ME BABY.......... you know how i like it, yeah, just like that. SW sinister posse? is there still planning for a pickanick? i SHALL be in tempe as of august 19, busy settling into some semblance of college LIFE> scary, huh? i felt so wretched today. i felt like a dead rat on boiled toast. i was very unhappy, frustrated, shaking, crying, sputtering, worrying, nagging, whining, rocking in a catatonia state, blurting awkward sexual things at random moments like i had some weird version of tourette's. and guess what. i feel okay now. because it's just not worth getting bent out of shape about. even though every time i listen to twattybots, or francoise hardy, or my Moose tape, or christa's mix tape, i'll be thiking of *HER* and how longingly i gazed hour after lonely hour, and how i spilled myself in pathetic poetry. it's all too sad. guess what. i'm going to makemyself a spirit shield of crow feathers and bone. (crows talk to me you know) i'm goign to make myself into a cartoon who is so happy and pretty and powerful. i'm going to paint "I AM A WITCH" all over my dorm room when i move into it, and when i got out on the town i'm going to put on a little dress and be Lila the werewolf. and seduce everyone who crosses my path. and guess what. I am well kissed by the sun, and well made love to by the moon. and you can be too. believe it. spirit love, LJ PS i saw a fluffy wuffy widdow bunny wabbit today, and he was SOOOO cute. he sat so still and pwetty while i took his picture. *AWWW* http://www.members.tripod.com/rebelstrange "Strong like a gorilla, yet soft and yielding like a NERF ball" SAVE MST3K!!!! http://www.mst3kinfo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ThisSffrng at xxx.com Thu Jul 15 09:41:19 1999 From: ThisSffrng at xxx.com (ThisSffrng at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 04:41:19 EDT Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk & Cookies Message-ID: I must say.. Tigermilk is a great album, in it's full digitally remastery.. I'm really grateful that Jeepster decided to re-release it.. I've been waiting to hear more Belle and Sebastian, so here I am, listening to the songs that I never got to hear.. Songs that I must say are really well done: Electronic Renaissance, and I don't love anymore.. Thank you again Jeepster. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alan.singfield at xxx.com Thu Jul 15 09:30:53 1999 From: alan.singfield at xxx.com (Alan Singfield) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:30:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Humbel apology Message-ID: <6357CBA4ECC4D211A67C00805FD787D7065CC8@shuban.isoftplc.com> To all of you who came to the defence of Electronic Renaissance: Its a free country, isn't it? (well it is here in the Peoples Republic of Mancunian Libya) I don't like it, but if you do, thats OK... We all have our own pair of ears!* If you want to cut your Tigermilk tape *between* "Electronic Renaiisance" and "I Could Be Dreaming" to represent the hallowed "turning over of the vinyl" you are more than welcome to do so. Anyway, there might be something on the other side you don't want to mess up. Nick Dastoor, who accused me of "casual slagging" - what a great idea!Tell me where I might find a "casual slag" and I'll give "casual slagging" a proper go! I *promise* I will listen to Electronic Renaiisance with a new set of ears this evening. And try to like it. Spanners. >--< * Oh shit I might have offended people with only one ear. Sorry monaural people. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From willy.robertson at xxx.com Thu Jul 15 02:00:43 1999 From: willy.robertson at xxx.com (willy robertson) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 18:00:43 -0700 Subject: Sinister: I hope this doesn't get me in trouble Message-ID: Ok, I hope no one minds me doing this........... The Prime Minister and the Chancellor have told Comic Relief that if they can prove that enough people want to cancel the debt owed by Third World Countries, they will act to stop the suffering. So just call the number below and add your name to the telephone petition Freecall 0800 55 66 96 Please pass this on to anyone you know who may care. --- Willy. __________________________________________________________________ Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i_love_moon at xxx.com Thu Jul 15 11:17:27 1999 From: i_love_moon at xxx.com (hay fever) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:17:27 GMT Subject: Sinister: you try to fool somebody but you end up fooling yourself Message-ID: <19990715101727.34639.qmail@hotmail.com> "you try to say it's over..." ooh no this email isn't about felt... i was wondering, does anyone know if belle and sebastian are celtic fans or rangers fans? i hope to god that they are celtic fans. i read something funny in the paper the other day, during a show in sweden, mogwai dedicated a song to henrik larsson (of celtic). i wonder if we get to hear something similar next time belle play here... celtic forever_ johan webpage: www.hayfever.net email: johan.fear.sinisters at hayfever.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andrewt at xxx.com Thu Jul 15 11:37:28 1999 From: andrewt at xxx.com (Andrew Tracey) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 11:37:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Green hoops and bluenoses Message-ID: <29AA5A0E3A0CD21196F300A0C9D8575C888353@WROX3> hay fever contributed thus > i was wondering, does anyone know if belle and sebastian are celtic fans or > rangers fans? i hope to god that they are celtic fans. i read something > funny in the paper the other day, during a show in sweden, mogwai dedicated > a song to henrik larsson (of celtic). i wonder if we get to hear something > similar next time belle play here... Despite the fact I am a big football fan, I would hope that B+S are not that bothered about football, especially not in the bigoted tribal warfare that is Rangers + Celtic. If any of them do support a football team I hope it's one of the smaller ones, like Stenhousemuir or Cowdenbeath (if only for the names) bye for now andrew (still Tigermilkless due to the scarcity of record shops near work) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Thu Jul 15 12:05:09 1999 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (katrina house) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 12:05:09 +0100 Subject: Sinister: you try to fool somebody but you end up fooling yourself References: <19990715101727.34639.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <378DC065.C4B532AA@jeepster.co.uk> hello, wee chris is a big celtic fan, and stuart murdoch supports ayr united (i think) cheers, katrina. hay fever wrote: > i was wondering, does anyone know if belle and sebastian are celtic fans or > rangers fans? i hope to god that they are celtic fans. i read something > funny in the paper the other day, during a show in sweden, mogwai dedicated > a song to henrik larsson (of celtic). i wonder if we get to hear something > similar next time belle play here... -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ po box 14153, london, sw11 4xu, u.k. tel: 0171 924 2324, fax: 0171 924 6161 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Thu Jul 15 13:31:53 1999 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetryplace2) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:31:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Reykjavic? Message-ID: <01becebe$04dc3100$046b9ac2@g5-200-3> Hello there I've haven't been round much recently, cos I've been moving and stuff. What a palaver! I've ended up living with Tim H. and Sez H., both of this parish, in a tall house with Canary Wharf looming on the horizon, lots of foxes all over the place, and, best of all, a local pub called "The Fitchetts". Anyways, now I'm back, I have a couple of things to say... WITH HAIRSTYLES THE SAME AS THE RICH AND THE FAMOUS Do you like good music? Sweet soul music? Well listen up, kiddiwinks: tomorrow night, Friday 16th July, the Poetry Café in Covent Garden, London brings you more stars than there are in heaven. First off the rank, and straight outta Sidmouth, are the near-mythical godfathers of P!O!P! The Visitors, featuring our own Tim Hopkins on vocal chores, hand-jiving and reggie toasting. Next up is Antipodean shantoozie, Kirsty Stegwazi, who you might know from her backing vocals on a record called "Boondoggle". Which was recorded by our headliners... the Lucksmiths! Still only £3. Doors open 7.30pm. Email me privately for directions etc. I WAS BORN THIS WAY, I HAD NO CHOICE / I WAS BORN WITH THE GIFT OF A GOLDEN VOICE "I could kill you, sure, but I could only make you cry with these words", said Stewpot Murdoch, the big sillybilly. But what are the words that make YOU cry? Or laugh? Or go "hmmmmm"? Hey? I'm editing a little book about pop lyrics to be published in October for National Poetry Day and I'm after people's thoughts on the subject. So if you have a favourite lyric, or songwriter, or whatever, drop me a line and tell me what you like and why. There'll be a webpage up next week at www.poetrysoc.com, but until then you can email me here (poetryplace2 at easynet.co.uk). If you make it into the final book I'll send you a free copy when it comes out. That's all Stevie Trousers +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Thu Jul 15 13:53:27 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:53:27 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: orphans Message-ID: Yes you'll be orphans for a bit next week I'm afraid - I'm being dragged off for a week of recuperation by the sea in Ireland like Victorian women did when they had the vapours. I'm off all week and back the following Tuesday so I'll wind up the Big List Spring tomorrow before I leave and hope it doesn't wind down before I get back. And I'm really sorry for the few mail messages still pending I haven't got to yet - I'm completely swamped to be honest. Anyway I've stocked the kitchen cupboards with food, and told the neighbours to check on you, so no wild parties, bed early and be good. Mummy x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Thu Jul 15 14:44:30 1999 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick at work) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:44:30 -0400 Subject: Sinister: They've called it Electronic Renaissance Message-ID: <378DE5BE.D4D1986E@ohiou.edu> Hello, Wow, how fitting that by no intention of my own the song just started. Anyway, I would have jumped to the "rescue" of Electronic Renaissance the second it was maligned, but that would have been two posts in one day... but I really had no clue that so many people like it, which is outstanding. My favorite track on Tigermilk, one of my all-time faves too... Ben said something about it sounding like Procession by New Order. As pleased as I was to see someone other than myself mentioning New Order, I'm not sure if the song reminds me specifically of Procession the other songs from around the same time. In fact, I am not entirely certain that Gillian Gilbert (er, the keyboard player) was in the band at that point. I am certain she wasn't involved in the very first single, and Procession was the second single, preceeding the excellent Movement. It's also quite possible that Procession & its b-side are songs that were written as Joy Division but not recorded until they became New Order, as some of the early songs were. Even if she was in the band, at that point in time their songs to me sound less dance and more brooding, dark-sounding, and oddly jangly at times (see: Dreams Never End) which Electronic Renaissance is not. Furthermore, there are like 3 synth parts on Electronic Renaissance! Which is awesome, but I don't think even New Order did that, at least not until their later days, if at all. If you listen carefully to the new remastered version of Electronic Renaissance you can hear a tinkly synth at certain intervals. Anyway, I guess there is a bit of New Order in the song, but I'd say more of a Technique-era sound. Movement and Power, Corruption & Lies are more guitar-based than Electronic Renaissance. Er, yes, that was probably more than any of you wanted to know about New Order, but I'm at work and bored, so try to be understanding. Les Belles ought to do more synthy songs in the vein of Electronic Renaissance and Sleep the Clock Around. And someone should do a B&S night at a club here in New York. What I don't understand is how there have been so many over UK-way but not a single one here... Oh yes, and The Blair Witch Project is the scariest movie ever. I'm not kidding! I think I've returned to the state of being scared of the dark. Has anyone got a nightlight I can borrow for a few weeks? Well, I'll get by, but if anyone suggests a Sinister camping trip in Maryland you can count me out. Waiting to dance to Electronic Renaissance, Mick McMick at Work +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Thu Jul 15 15:57:13 1999 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksAndAJill) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:57:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: I have seen your face but I don't recognize at all Message-ID: <199907151457.KAA41194@dept.english.upenn.edu> Like, I can totally hear him [Mick three times on the ceiling if you want me] going that: >me sound less dance and more brooding, dark-sounding, and oddly jangly >at times (see: Dreams Never End) which Electronic Renaissance is not. >Furthermore, there are like 3 synth parts on Electronic Renaissance! >Which is awesome, but I don't think even New Order did that, at least >not until their later days, if at all. If you listen carefully to the >new remastered version of Electronic Renaissance you can hear a tinkly >synth at certain intervals. Anyway, I guess there is a bit of New Order >in the song, but I'd say more of a Technique-era sound. Movement and >Power, Corruption & Lies are more guitar-based than Electronic >Renaissance. Yes, well, let me qualify my statements then. ER is strongly reminscent to me of "Procession" and it doesn't sound *exactly* like it...and no, it certainly doesn't sound like anything else from those early days but I'm not even sure why you brought *that* up...perhaps to make a nice segue into your essay on New Order?:) I'm just talking about the song "Procession" itself, nothing else, if it wasn't clear. And in the similarities I'm thinking more in the beat and the melody of the bass-lines and the general dominance of keyboards in both songs. I'm not sure what version you're thinking of, but the one I have on the second disc of _Substance 1987_ features some big-assed synths, very nice production and a backing female vocal. _Technique_ was a litle too electronically disco (lots of electronic percussion and special effects, etc.) I think to warrant comparison with ER (which is pretty simple by comparison esp. to something like "Round and Round" or even "Run" which has many guitar parts). Re: "tinkly synth" in remastered "Electronic Renaissance"...your point is...? NO did *tons* of layering, there is no way to argue that! They became very heavy on the multiple synth part even before _Technique_ I'd say. I mean, call me naive but the part right before the chorus on "Bizarre Love Triangle" with the big sweeping synth part could hardly be done with one hand alone...then a simpler synth part comes in during that. And then there was the synth-bass parts...and drum synths... Anyway Bri (and others), I never meant to come off as snooty like I knew New Order like nobody else did in comparing the songs...it was just my opinion that the two seemed similar. That's all. Just a passing thought that now has snowballed into almost a full-blown OT New Order thread. I think this is the first time I've actually posted to/read the list while listening to B&S...and the first time I've listened to _Tigermilk_ while reading it certainly! I hope I don't cause a tear in the space-time continuum... Someday we will die in our dreams, Xavier BXK bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu | www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 It's what kind of hair you have on the inside that counts.--G.S. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elfie at xxx.ie Thu Jul 15 16:09:22 1999 From: elfie at xxx.ie (nickie) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:09:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: living la vida croak-a Message-ID: <199907151510.JAA14223@turtle.esosoft.net> *cough* *wheeze* i am on my second day off of work sick...this means that i have a day off from champagne receptions and fashion shoots and have time to write in. got sent home yesterday for hawking all over my co-workers (don't mind them, they loved it). so i left after a few minutes and went shopping - because after all, a girl is never to sick to go shopping To those who've been slagging off Electronic Rennaissance, you just don't understand it...go now, put it on, stand in front of your mirror, body-pop for half an hour, and then - only then - will your truly *understand* at last a song that fuses the electrowizardry and genius of Jean Michel Jarre and the Dr. Who theme. ever since i first heard it i've been wearing side pony's and ra-ra skirts. So nice to have a copy of Tigermilk where you don't feel like you're listening to it from the bottom of a swimming pool. i got my cd copy, and a friend of mine bought the vinyl "because her chest looks bigger on it". i will say nothing. that's about it for me, today. i grow weary of being sick. and i am bored. Oprah was good today though. it was all about medical breakthroughs and the best were a man who got frostbitten so that his nose disintegrated and they grew a new nose upside down on his forehead, and when it was fully formed they turned it upside down and sewed it on in the right place (complete with graphic video footage). there was also a man with a backwards hand. jenny jones was all about teen tramps. i love day-time tv. Plus, Paula Cullen, how could you say such cruel things about the 'face of feminism in the nineties' (TM) Allie McBeal. i watched the allie documentary *and* an episode of it last night. i also watch dawsons creek. i admit i've got a problem. nickie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Thu Jul 15 16:27:50 1999 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 11:27:50 EDT Subject: Sinister: Those numbers are right alright... Message-ID: <34fa1690.24bf57f6@aol.com> I must concur with Mick that the "Tony/Linda" Blair Witch project looks scary as all get up. They've been showing alot of clips from the movie on the Sci-Fi channel and whatnot and even they almost made me get a change of trousers. I haven't been that frightened since...well...Darth Maul a few weeks ago (but he was scary dammit!). I live in Maryland, about an hour and a half away from where all that stuff went down but I likewise will stay as far away from there as humanly possible. I heard there's a contest in Rolling Stone where the winner gets to take 50 of their friends to a midnight showing of the film on a screen set up right next to the cabin where the footage was found. As Nickie said "I will say nothing" except that if this doesn't sound like a recipe for casualties I don't know what does. To clue some people in: In 1994 three students from the University of Maryland went on an expedition to Burkitsville, MD to film a documentary about the legend of a witch who haunted the woods. It seems that ever since the 1780s (and even up to the 1940s) people have been turning up totally disembowled and have been getting offed out of the blue. The students arrived, interviewed some people, shot some film, then rented a cabin in the woods to rest for the night before beginning again the next day. They were never heard from again. A few months later some investigators found their film buried under the floor of the cabin and eventually it was turned into the movie "The Blair Witch Project," which hits US theatres tommorrow. Supposedly the MPAA is trying to get the film banned because even though theres no blood or gore in the movie, and as far as I know no deaths are filmed, people are still leaving theatres in a state of severe shock or something. Yawn. Anyway...how have the Looper shows been out West? The DC show is in one week exactly so the capital of this fair nation has been abuzz with a love of cheezy synths and rotating sculptures...yeah right. Later steve c. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From RPushong at xxx.com Thu Jul 15 16:41:20 1999 From: RPushong at xxx.com (RPushong at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 11:41:20 EDT Subject: Sinister: are you afraid of the dark? Message-ID: <911d587e.24bf5b20@aol.com> hello everybody... picking up from Mick McMick...on the film that scared him...made me think back to a few years ago...a friend of mine used to work in Wembley Box office ...& one of the perks of the job used to be free tickets to things that weren't sold out...anyway he got tickets to see something called Global Conspiracy...far from being some cutting edge band , it was more like a conference...and it scared the hell out out of me..., they had speakers from all over the world...but the scariest thing of all...they had a band on during 1 of the intervals ...& it was none other than a pre Kula Shaker Crispian Mills...it took me a little while to recover ...but i'll never forget the overwhelming sense of paranoia as i left the building. as for actual movies that scared me ...well nothing scared me more than the first Nightmare on Elm Street...it wasn't so much the film but more like the thought that if you go to sleep Freddie will get you...for someone who has problems sleeping ...this added a new twist to sleepless nights. in the electronic renaissance debate...& being someone who hadn't heard Tigermilk beforehand ...it was a bit of a shock on first listening but i kind of like now..., i think it adds a new dimension...it would have been the easiest thing in the world to leave this track off the album...,but i like it when bands i like do things unexpected. it seems to me there are quite a few B&S rareties floating around & i don't have anything! but i do have other things to offer...i have Felts last 2 gigs before they broke up...as well as a very rare Felt secret gig they played under the name The Dismantled Kings.I've also got 3 Shack gigs from 10 years ago...the quality i must add is fantastic...i've got other things as well...if you can email me privately i'm sure we can work out a trade. i'll say goodbye.... richard. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mknelly at xxx.com Thu Jul 15 16:42:20 1999 From: mknelly at xxx.com (Mary Jo) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:42:20 PDT Subject: Sinister: Those numbers are right alright... Message-ID: <19990715154221.77514.qmail@hotmail.com> hi. this is an unusual first post, but i want to respond. i read an article in spin (i know i know, but it was the same issue as the piece on rainer maria) that lead me to believe that the blair with movie story is completely false. they interviewed the film students who created the story and then i saw a piece on mtv that lead me to believe the same thing. the film students wanted to create a movie that captured fear. when i saw that piece and read that interview, i was incredibly disappointed. i saw an ad for the movie that gave a timeline and it seemed so real, so interesting. but i'm lead to believe there is no witch, no killings, no film students dead, no actual footage found, etc etc. just a hoax to scare you silly. apparently, it's working. i hope i'm wrong. it would be MUCH better if it was a true story. mary jo, whose name is REALLY mary jo, who is so happy to have an actual copy of tigermilk. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From giita at xxx.com Thu Jul 15 16:43:23 1999 From: giita at xxx.com (Giita .) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 15:43:23 GMT Subject: Sinister: Milking the water... Message-ID: <19990715154324.51276.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello Tiggerpuppies, How has everything been in e-mail land? I haven�t been online for almost a month now and it has been terribly depressing...I missed my Sinister :( ... Yes, I am going to continue ranting about Tigermilk..I just got it today from Jeepster(a bit late I think), I am giving my best friend a copy.. On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 marie elia wrote: Subject: Re: Sinister: Tigermilk statue - --- Alan Singfield wrote: >Anyway, most sensible people will >cut the tape in the middle of Electronic >Renaiisance, so no damage done there. oh, dear. i just can't take this. just as lesley jo will fiercly come to the defense of her beloved isobel, i feel i can no longer keep quiet at the abuse that Electronic Renaissance is taking. what is wrong with you popkids? can't you appreciate the pure synthesized beauty? the petshopboys-ness of it? the way struan's silvery vocals cut and shimmer and echo through layers of pure dance beats? sheesh! i cue my tape up so that E.R. is the first song when i go for a drive... *sigh* i suppose i can't convince you all... Yes, Electronic Renaissance is one of my absolute favorite Tigermilk tunes :) I used to play it over and over again...I once put Electronic on at full volume during a Theater performance me and some kids wrote..The play and the music went very well together.. What have I been up to? I have been working too much. Because I work outside i have been drowning myself in Icelandic rainwater.. I desperately need sunshine!! Why is there a cloud over Reykjavik?? ..I have been partying a bit..but I have to get out of the Ice and go somewhere...I guess i�ll have to wait until All Tomorrow�s.. Well I am going to an amuzement park to lift my spirits so, I�ll stop my whining and go off.. XXX @->-- Giita "And we all say we don�t want to be alone, we wear the same clothes because we feel the same.." End a century - Blur ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stuartdavid_fanclub at xxx.com Thu Jul 15 17:13:09 1999 From: stuartdavid_fanclub at xxx.com (The Stuart David Fanclub) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:13:09 GMT Subject: Sinister: Calling All Stuart David Fans Message-ID: <19990715161309.9295.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey you lovely and good people of Sinister, Fed up because there`s not nearly enough talk of Stuart David? Sexually frustrated because there`s not nearly enough pictures of him? All those sleepless nights,spent tossing and turning, wondering what the latest news concerning him is? We hear you, we hear you loud and clear.Stuart Murdoch may be the Everything of Belle & Sebastian,but Stuart David provides the Boom Shocka Locka Boom. BUT, we...need...YOU! Yes,oh yes we do.In order to open the Stuart David Complex we need photos,facts,stories,things,drawings,pictures,reviews,collages,screenplays,anecdotes,modern art dances...well just about anything really,concerning that king among men.You will get full recognition for it all,AND you are entered,absolutely free of charge into the One Hot Summer Night contest,where you could win dinner with Stuart David and a cozy stay at the Holiday Inn with him.* So come ON boys and girls,help us out.Mail and questions or comments to: stuartdavid_fanclub at hotmail.com PLEASE! Even if you aren`t a fan of his,but have a lot of stories or photos concerning him,please,help us out. Yours Hopefully, The Stuart David Fanclub *The Fanclub is not responsible if Stuart David actually turns up. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Richard.Lander at xxx.com Thu Jul 15 06:39:39 1999 From: Richard.Lander at xxx.com (Richard.Lander at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:39:39 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk in Hong Kong Message-ID: <882567AF.0059C921.00@mw.com> Sending this from work as its still lunchtime. Well done to the folks at Jeepster and the Post Office for getting my copy of Tigermilk to me in Hong Kong by Tuesday. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Thu Jul 15 17:56:59 1999 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:56:59 +0100 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?I_see_quite_good-looking_people_who=3Fve_got_girlf?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?riends?= Message-ID: <802567AF.005D1FB2.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> This is going to be in tomorrow's Guardian. It's boring as fuck, but there you go. At least there are some new exciting quotes from the band. They turned down a support slot with the Charlatans! My my, they are getting big for their boots. Nick xx Belle who? . . . they won a Brit Award when no one had heard of them Belle And Sebastian may not court fame, but they?ve sure found success. By Caroline Sullivan Do you want to know how much I hate them? Even their name raises my blood pressure,? says a middlingly famous pop singer of fellow Scots Belle And Sebastian. What seems to be an inordinate amount of spleen directed at one inoffensive rock band is actually par for the course. Since emerging in 1996, the Glaswegian octet have inspired more fuming than almost any other group, all due to their so-called ?wussiness?. There?s a good deal of evidence for the prosecution. The six men and two women (none of whom is called Belle or Sebastian) were last in the queue when God handed was handing out the rock?n?roll swagger, and were redirected instead to Wistful via, with an interim stop at Puny Physiques on the way. Songwriter Stuart Murdoch refuses to do interviews, while the others refuse to be photographed (the cover of their debut album, Tigermilk, featured a snap of Murdoch?s girlfriend). And their fans are so shy they mostly converse on the internet, occasionally mustering the courage to go to events with names like like 200 Troubled Teenagers. Guilty as charged, wuss-wise, and even they admit it. The obverse, though, is that it takes shimmeringly unusual music to provoke the reaction they do. Tigermilk, which is re-released this week ? original 1996 copies, of which only 1,000 exist, change hands for up to £800 ? is a good place to begin. Songs contain not lyrics but paragraphs, read/sung by Stuart Murdoch. A track might begin, ?My brother had confessed he was gay/It took the heat off me for a while/ He stood up with a sailor friend/ Made it known on my sister?s wedding day.? Cellos and trumpets have higher status than guitars, and the tempo is slow enough for bedroom to encourage brooding. Those who join their insular club take out membership for life ? and on February 16, fans rose in a show of strength. That night, the meek inherited the earth ? or at least the Brit Award for best newcomer, as Belle And Sebastian won 9,500 votes in a phone and internet poll. Producer Pete Waterman, who?d expected his charges Steps to win, called the result a fix and demanded a recount. A member of Steps voiced the question in the minds of most of the nation: ?Who are Belle And Sebastian?? A bad night for robopop, but a good one for music. Belle And Sebastian hadn?t expected to win either, so only the drummer and trumpet player had been sent to the ceremony. Murdoch, who never attends such events, was busy that night anyway. He works as a church-hall janitor, and spent Brits night clearing up after the local flamenco club. ?We?d heard rumours throughout the day that it was us, but didn?t take it seriously,? recalls Richard Colburn, who played semi-professional snooker before joining as drummer. ?The camera crew suddenly zoomed off to another table just as they were about to announce it, so we thought it was Billie or Steps ? and then they zoomed back to us. Rabbit-in-the-headlights time.? Next morning, drummer Richard Colburn and trumpeter Mick Cooke found themselves dazedly running a dazed lap of honour on The Big Breakfast as other stars denounced their win. ?Another Level said we cheated, but what really bothered me was when Cerys from Catatonia said, ?If Belle And Sebastian are best newcomers, I?m Robbie Williams?. When you consider that a year ago she was in the same boat as us...? sighs Cooke, who looks far too young to be in this Glasgow pub, which may be why he?s restricting himself to orange juice. He, Colburn and guitarist Stevie Jackson are the Belle?s lad faction, inasmuch as such a thing can be said to exist. The distinction comes from the fact that they?re the only ones willing to do interviews, although they vet these carefully. Colburn, who flat-shares with Murdoch in the church hall, has taken the afternoon off setting up tables for tonight?s bridge session (?It?s very popular?) to be here. Cellist Isobel Campbell and bassist Stuart David, who would have more to gain by being interviewed (Campbell has a solo band called The Gentle Waves, David a project called Looper), have elected to be absent, as have violinist Sarah Martin and keyboardist Chris Geddes. They begin, rather surprisingly, by disputing the idea that their fans are bashful underachievers who spend their lives on the net (although the fact that their website receives around 50,000 hits a week does support this theory). ?It?s too easy to put a label on us. We get all sorts, agewise and professionwise. I see quite good-looking people who?ve got girlfriends,? maintains Colburn, ploughing through a bacon sandwich in an indeniably masculine manner. ?I don?t look out and see a bunch of geeky, speccy shy people.? ?They?re on stage,? quips Cooke. ?We?re not responsible for a lot of things that go on on our behalf.? This is a reference to 200 Troubled Teenagers, an event in London in February that saw gaggles of foot-scuffling girls and boys gather to whisper about favourite tracks from the Belles? three albums (the others are If You?re Feeling Sinister and The Boy with the Arab Strap, both deservedly acclaimed). It was the band, however, who were behind the Bowlie Weekender in April: three days of holiday-camp fun starring themselves and other limelight-rejecting bands. ?But we don?t reject the limelight,? argues Jackson, who?s quiet enough to be one of his own fans, but way too tall. ?It?s not a predetermined policy to be elusive, it?s just the nature of the beast. I?d love to have a hit single. I?d love to play Top of the Pops! That?s our next goal. If you?re going to do it, you might as well let people hear it.? In which case, perhaps you should have signed with American music bigwig Seymour Stein when he offered, and not refused support slots for on Radiohead and Pulp tours. Jackson shakes his head. ?That was because there?s eight people in the group and a very complex sound. It?s taken all sorts of public humiliation and ineptitude to get almost professional, and we need very long soundchecks, sometimes hours. So we can?t do supports, because we need control, and anyway, we only want to play to people who are there to see us. We?ve just turned down the Charlatans.? There?s no evidence of ineptitude on Tigermilk, which they?ve decided to re-release because ?the price [of original copies] was going a bit mad?(popster Stephen Duffy supposedly owns 10 copies). They evince a quiet pride in the record, which was recorded in five days as part of a music-business college course. Now held up as the the gold standard of indie rock, it was almost totally overlooked back in ?96, attracting just one (favourable) review. ?It?s stood up,? Colburn declares. ?I still enjoy listening to it. We couldn?t have done it any better. Even the mistakes become defining.? Belle And Sebastian are now feeling their way toward a their fourth album. A It?s a tortuous process, because, typically, they insist that every decision be unanimous. Top of the Pops notwithstanding, they will undoubtedly continue to dodge the spotlight and irritate those who can?t understand how a band could turn down the bright lights for insularity and church halls. Real success ? which is predicted for the next album ? may drive them even further underground, where even more delicate shoots will take root. Tigermilk is reviewed on page 18 (except it isn't, at least not in the edition that I've got. Unless they are confusing Belle & Sebastian with Hefner) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Thu Jul 15 19:09:32 1999 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MS1996) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 19:09:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Grandpa Cook meets Stuart Murdoch shock! Message-ID: <378E23DC.BA46669@cs.strath.ac.uk> So is anyone else's grandpa in a B&S video then? Cos mine is. I discovered this the other day while watching the dog on wheels video for the second time, and almost fell off my seat when I realised who the old man Stuart is asking directions or something from in Byres road was. I had to rewind the video about three times to make sure I wasn't dreaming. My grandpa, preserved in history even when he joins the choir invisible. I haven't told him yet, though. I haven't told my grandpa either. I've heard mumblings of a Nick Drake tribute concert being held in London in September with actual good proper people playing. I don't suppose anyone can give me any details of exactly who might play and when exactly it is could they? Fank you. Ooh, here's a nice bit of the Tigermilk review from the Glasgow Herald penned by that lovely Mr David Belcher: "...If this isn't one of the 10 most affecting debut albums in musical history, you can come round and eat my hat. Worth gifts of gold; frankincense and myrrh - plus your dying breath and all the tea in China." Oh, and Flo said: > I suppose some of the Glasgow members of the list went to see Godspeed You > Black Emperor! on Monday, since the topic was being discussed on the NG a > while ago. I'm so jealous!!! GYBE! are so good, and Mogwai coming as > surprise support.... that's unfair!!! I did go but unfortunately missed Mogwai due to Miss Ailsa Ross' boyfriend's germs (boring story, doesn't matter). Howver I did see Godspeed.. who were indeed very good, a bit like having your head pulled off and your heart pulled out simultaneously. Which is a good thing. Alasdair xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Thu Jul 15 19:34:19 1999 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 19:34:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Sorry about all those question marks Message-ID: <802567AF.006605E2.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> And who is this 'middlingly famous' Scottish pop singer? Any hunches? Nick xx Belle who? . . . they won a Brit Award when no one had heard of them Belle And Sebastian may not court fame, but they?ve sure found success. By Caroline Sullivan Do you want to know how much I hate them? Even their name raises my blood pressure,? says a middlingly famous pop singer of fellow Scots Belle And Sebastian. What seems to be an inordinate amount of spleen directed at one inoffensive rock band is actually par for the course. Since emerging in 1996, the Glaswegian octet have inspired more fuming than almost any other group, all due to their so-called ?wussiness?. There?s a good deal of evidence for the prosecution. The six men and two women (none of whom is called Belle or Sebastian) were last in the queue when God handed was handing out the rock?n?roll swagger, and were redirected instead to Wistful via, with an interim stop at Puny Physiques on the way. Songwriter Stuart Murdoch refuses to do interviews, while the others refuse to be photographed (the cover of their debut album, Tigermilk, featured a snap of Murdoch?s girlfriend). And their fans are so shy they mostly converse on the internet, occasionally mustering the courage to go to events with names like like 200 Troubled Teenagers. Guilty as charged, wuss-wise, and even they admit it. The obverse, though, is that it takes shimmeringly unusual music to provoke the reaction they do. Tigermilk, which is re-released this week ? original 1996 copies, of which only 1,000 exist, change hands for up to £800 ? is a good place to begin. Songs contain not lyrics but paragraphs, read/sung by Stuart Murdoch. A track might begin, ?My brother had confessed he was gay/It took the heat off me for a while/ He stood up with a sailor friend/ Made it known on my sister?s wedding day.? Cellos and trumpets have higher status than guitars, and the tempo is slow enough for bedroom to encourage brooding. Those who join their insular club take out membership for life ? and on February 16, fans rose in a show of strength. That night, the meek inherited the earth ? or at least the Brit Award for best newcomer, as Belle And Sebastian won 9,500 votes in a phone and internet poll. Producer Pete Waterman, who?d expected his charges Steps to win, called the result a fix and demanded a recount. A member of Steps voiced the question in the minds of most of the nation: ?Who are Belle And Sebastian?? A bad night for robopop, but a good one for music. Belle And Sebastian hadn?t expected to win either, so only the drummer and trumpet player had been sent to the ceremony. Murdoch, who never attends such events, was busy that night anyway. He works as a church-hall janitor, and spent Brits night clearing up after the local flamenco club. ?We?d heard rumours throughout the day that it was us, but didn?t take it seriously,? recalls Richard Colburn, who played semi-professional snooker before joining as drummer. ?The camera crew suddenly zoomed off to another table just as they were about to announce it, so we thought it was Billie or Steps ? and then they zoomed back to us. Rabbit-in-the-headlights time.? Next morning, drummer Richard Colburn and trumpeter Mick Cooke found themselves dazedly running a dazed lap of honour on The Big Breakfast as other stars denounced their win. ?Another Level said we cheated, but what really bothered me was when Cerys from Catatonia said, ?If Belle And Sebastian are best newcomers, I?m Robbie Williams?. When you consider that a year ago she was in the same boat as us...? sighs Cooke, who looks far too young to be in this Glasgow pub, which may be why he?s restricting himself to orange juice. He, Colburn and guitarist Stevie Jackson are the Belle?s lad faction, inasmuch as such a thing can be said to exist. The distinction comes from the fact that they?re the only ones willing to do interviews, although they vet these carefully. Colburn, who flat-shares with Murdoch in the church hall, has taken the afternoon off setting up tables for tonight?s bridge session (?It?s very popular?) to be here. Cellist Isobel Campbell and bassist Stuart David, who would have more to gain by being interviewed (Campbell has a solo band called The Gentle Waves, David a project called Looper), have elected to be absent, as have violinist Sarah Martin and keyboardist Chris Geddes. They begin, rather surprisingly, by disputing the idea that their fans are bashful underachievers who spend their lives on the net (although the fact that their website receives around 50,000 hits a week does support this theory). ?It?s too easy to put a label on us. We get all sorts, agewise and professionwise. I see quite good-looking people who?ve got girlfriends,? maintains Colburn, ploughing through a bacon sandwich in an indeniably masculine manner. ?I don?t look out and see a bunch of geeky, speccy shy people.? ?They?re on stage,? quips Cooke. ?We?re not responsible for a lot of things that go on on our behalf.? This is a reference to 200 Troubled Teenagers, an event in London in February that saw gaggles of foot-scuffling girls and boys gather to whisper about favourite tracks from the Belles? three albums (the others are If You?re Feeling Sinister and The Boy with the Arab Strap, both deservedly acclaimed). It was the band, however, who were behind the Bowlie Weekender in April: three days of holiday-camp fun starring themselves and other limelight-rejecting bands. ?But we don?t reject the limelight,? argues Jackson, who?s quiet enough to be one of his own fans, but way too tall. ?It?s not a predetermined policy to be elusive, it?s just the nature of the beast. I?d love to have a hit single. I?d love to play Top of the Pops! That?s our next goal. If you?re going to do it, you might as well let people hear it.? In which case, perhaps you should have signed with American music bigwig Seymour Stein when he offered, and not refused support slots for on Radiohead and Pulp tours. Jackson shakes his head. ?That was because there?s eight people in the group and a very complex sound. It?s taken all sorts of public humiliation and ineptitude to get almost professional, and we need very long soundchecks, sometimes hours. So we can?t do supports, because we need control, and anyway, we only want to play to people who are there to see us. We?ve just turned down the Charlatans.? There?s no evidence of ineptitude on Tigermilk, which they?ve decided to re-release because ?the price [of original copies] was going a bit mad?(popster Stephen Duffy supposedly owns 10 copies). They evince a quiet pride in the record, which was recorded in five days as part of a music-business college course. Now held up as the the gold standard of indie rock, it was almost totally overlooked back in ?96, attracting just one (favourable) review. ?It?s stood up,? Colburn declares. ?I still enjoy listening to it. We couldn?t have done it any better. Even the mistakes become defining.? Belle And Sebastian are now feeling their way toward a their fourth album. A It?s a tortuous process, because, typically, they insist that every decision be unanimous. Top of the Pops notwithstanding, they will undoubtedly continue to dodge the spotlight and irritate those who can?t understand how a band could turn down the bright lights for insularity and church halls. Real success ? which is predicted for the next album ? may drive them even further underground, where even more delicate shoots will take root. Tigermilk is reviewed on page 18 (except it isn't, at least not in the edition that I've got. Unless they are confusing Belle & Sebastian with Hefner) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Thu Jul 15 19:43:46 1999 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 19:43:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Look, I'm really sorry about this Message-ID: <802567AF.0066E36D.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> I resent the original with all the fancy quotation marks. It probably wasn't worth it the first time, but I never was any good at cutting my losses. Anyone fancy a game of poker? I hope some of you will be able to 'muster up the courage' to go and hang out at the wussy Poetry Cafe tomorrow evening. See you there. Nick xx Belle who? . . . they won a Brit Award when no one had heard of them Belle And Sebastian may not court fame, but they've sure found success. By Caroline Sullivan "Do you want to know how much I hate them? Even their name raises my blood pressure," says a middlingly famous pop singer of fellow Scots Belle And Sebastian. What seems to be an inordinate amount of spleen directed at one inoffensive rock band is actually par for the course. Since emerging in 1996, the Glaswegian octet have inspired more fuming than almost any other group, all due to their so-called "wussiness". There's a good deal of evidence for the prosecution. The six men and two women (none of whom is called Belle or Sebastian) were last in the queue when God handed was handing out the rock'n'roll swagger, and were redirected instead to Wistful via, with an interim stop at Puny Physiques on the way. Songwriter Stuart Murdoch refuses to do interviews, while the others refuse to be photographed (the cover of their debut album, Tigermilk, featured a snap of Murdoch's girlfriend). And their fans are so shy they mostly converse on the internet, occasionally mustering the courage to go to events with names like like 200 Troubled Teenagers. Guilty as charged, wuss-wise, and even they admit it. The obverse, though, is that it takes shimmeringly unusual music to provoke the reaction they do. Tigermilk, which is re-released this week ? original 1996 copies, of which only 1,000 exist, change hands for up to £800 ? is a good place to begin. Songs contain not lyrics but paragraphs, read/sung by Stuart Murdoch. A track might begin, "My brother had confessed he was gay/It took the heat off me for a while/ He stood up with a sailor friend/ Made it known on my sister's wedding day." Cellos and trumpets have higher status than guitars, and the tempo is slow enough for bedroom to encourage brooding. Those who join their insular club take out membership for life ? and on February 16, fans rose in a show of strength. That night, the meek inherited the earth ? or at least the Brit Award for best newcomer, as Belle And Sebastian won 9,500 votes in a phone and internet poll. Producer Pete Waterman, who'd expected his charges Steps to win, called the result a fix and demanded a recount. A member of Steps voiced the question in the minds of most of the nation: "Who are Belle And Sebastian?" A bad night for robopop, but a good one for music. Belle And Sebastian hadn't expected to win either, so only the drummer and trumpet player had been sent to the ceremony. Murdoch, who never attends such events, was busy that night anyway. He works as a church-hall janitor, and spent Brits night clearing up after the local flamenco club. "We'd heard rumours throughout the day that it was us, but didn't take it seriously," recalls Richard Colburn, who played semi-professional snooker before joining as drummer. "The camera crew suddenly zoomed off to another table just as they were about to announce it, so we thought it was Billie or Steps ? and then they zoomed back to us. Rabbit-in-the-headlights time." Next morning, drummer Richard Colburn and trumpeter Mick Cooke found themselves dazedly running a dazed lap of honour on The Big Breakfast as other stars denounced their win. "Another Level said we cheated, but what really bothered me was when Cerys from Catatonia said, 'If Belle And Sebastian are best newcomers, I'm Robbie Williams'. When you consider that a year ago she was in the same boat as us..." sighs Cooke, who looks far too young to be in this Glasgow pub, which may be why he's restricting himself to orange juice. He, Colburn and guitarist Stevie Jackson are the Belle's lad faction, inasmuch as such a thing can be said to exist. The distinction comes from the fact that they're the only ones willing to do interviews, although they vet these carefully. Colburn, who flat-shares with Murdoch in the church hall, has taken the afternoon off setting up tables for tonight's bridge session ("It's very popular") to be here. Cellist Isobel Campbell and bassist Stuart David, who would have more to gain by being interviewed (Campbell has a solo band called The Gentle Waves, David a project called Looper), have elected to be absent, as have violinist Sarah Martin and keyboardist Chris Geddes. They begin, rather surprisingly, by disputing the idea that their fans are bashful underachievers who spend their lives on the net (although the fact that their website receives around 50,000 hits a week does support this theory). "It's too easy to put a label on us. We get all sorts, agewise and professionwise. I see quite good-looking people who've got girlfriends," maintains Colburn, ploughing through a bacon sandwich in an indeniably masculine manner. "I don't look out and see a bunch of geeky, speccy shy people." "They're on stage," quips Cooke. "We're not responsible for a lot of things that go on on our behalf." This is a reference to 200 Troubled Teenagers, an event in London in February that saw gaggles of foot-scuffling girls and boys gather to whisper about favourite tracks from the Belles' three albums (the others are If You're Feeling Sinister and The Boy with the Arab Strap, both deservedly acclaimed). It was the band, however, who were behind the Bowlie Weekender in April: three days of holiday-camp fun starring themselves and other limelight-rejecting bands. "But we don't reject the limelight," argues Jackson, who's quiet enough to be one of his own fans, but way too tall. "It's not a predetermined policy to be elusive, it's just the nature of the beast. I'd love to have a hit single. I'd love to play Top of the Pops! That's our next goal. If you're going to do it, you might as well let people hear it." In which case, perhaps you should have signed with American music bigwig Seymour Stein when he offered, and not refused support slots for on Radiohead and Pulp tours. Jackson shakes his head. "That was because there's eight people in the group and a very complex sound. It's taken all sorts of public humiliation and ineptitude to get almost professional, and we need very long soundchecks, sometimes hours. So we can't do supports, because we need control, and anyway, we only want to play to people who are there to see us. We've just turned down the Charlatans." There's no evidence of ineptitude on Tigermilk, which they've decided to re-release because "the price [of original copies] was going a bit mad"(popster Stephen Duffy supposedly owns 10 copies). They evince a quiet pride in the record, which was recorded in five days as part of a music-business college course. Now held up as the the gold standard of indie rock, it was almost totally overlooked back in '96, attracting just one (favourable) review. "It's stood up," Colburn declares. "I still enjoy listening to it. We couldn't have done it any better. Even the mistakes become defining." Belle And Sebastian are now feeling their way toward a their fourth album. A It's a tortuous process, because, typically, they insist that every decision be unanimous. Top of the Pops notwithstanding, they will undoubtedly continue to dodge the spotlight and irritate those who can't understand how a band could turn down the bright lights for insularity and church halls. Real success ? which is predicted for the next album ? may drive them even further underground, where even more delicate shoots will take root. Tigermilk is reviewed on page 18 (except it isn't, at least not in the edition that I've got. Unless they are confusing Belle & Sebastian with Hefner) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From CMcQuain at xxx.org Thu Jul 15 20:20:10 1999 From: CMcQuain at xxx.org (McQuain, Chris) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 12:20:10 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Procession Confession Message-ID: ...I've sworn off posting for a while but would like to chime in about New Order's "Procession" and "Electronic Renaissance". Listen to JUST THE BEGINNINGS of both songs in a row- the way the synth-melody goes dooooowwwnn/uuuuuuuuuuuup, dooooooooooooown/uuuuuuuuuup at the beginnings of both songs is remarkably similar, as is the rather dark/melancholy bass line that brings it back down to earth soon after... It CERTAINLY isn't anything like the glossily overproduced Technique, in my opinion. "ER" is very lo-fi, really one of the loest-fi B&S have ever done. Of course, none of this is to start off any kind of B&S/New Order comparison, obviously that's going nowhere fast, as "ER" is "reminiscent" ONLY (not a "copy") of "Procession", "Sleep the Clock Around" sounds a little reminiscent (again not a "copy") of Stereolab, and there's nothing else remotely like those two in the B&S ouevre. Any comment on THIS? I've come to believe our ears all hear things very differently, so the above is solely my opinion, but I thought I'd contribute to the little thread. And also, the Looper show here in Portland, OR (USA) was very good. Wee Karn actually TYPES on a typewriter for "Impossible Things", and the video show was super-cute. They didn't do an encore, but they did include "Who's Afraid of Y2K?" as the show closer, so I'm pretty sure we got everything. -Two or Three Things I Know About Chris +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ngaston at xxx.us Thu Jul 15 22:20:37 1999 From: ngaston at xxx.us (Nicole Gaston) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:20:37 -0500 Subject: Sinister: looper on friday - be there or b^2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <199907152118.QAA11492@info1.harper.cc.il.us> hi. this is my first post and its absolutely terrible and i know it. i am very sorry. after this i promise to go back to lurking quietly. just a reminder: anyone going to looper tomorrow at schuba's in chicago, you're welcome to show up around 5 pm at the golden apple on lincoln and wellington (thats about a 10 minute walk south of the venue..) how to get there: from schuba's go south on southport to lincoln (about 4? blocks), and right at the intersection of lincoln, southport, and wellington, on the south east corner, is the golden apple. i already know a few of us will be there until about 7 before heading over... one of us should have a sign or some other distinguishing feature... love nicole +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From memon at xxx.com Fri Jul 16 01:53:39 1999 From: memon at xxx.com (A. Memon) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 01:53:39 +-100 Subject: Sinister: no longer a GYBE! virgin Message-ID: <01BECF2E.098E0460@host5-171-252-30.btinternet.com> hello all, i've just got back from two full-on cinematic hours of Godspeed You Black Emperor! at the Union Chapel in London. Like many, I missed my first chance to see them at the Bowlie Fest, due to a clash with a duo called Belle and Sebastian (sorry, I plagarised that from Duglas T Stewart), but from the people who went to that show, I was told I wouldnt be disappointed today. I arrived catching the last cool waves of Fridge (bad pun i know), but they were playing those hard twangy basslines and thudding drums that I didnt feel like tonight. Sorta like Ui if you're familiar with them, but with some keyboards over the top. So when GYBE! came onstage and slowly did the same thing, i thought i would be disappointed. what they initially started of with was quite sinister. very evil. satanic sounds almost. all this in a church remember. no smoking signs adorned the place, but i still couldnt help feel a little evil through the music i heard. the music could best be described as a soundtrack to walking barefoot over broken glass and enjoying it. yeah, quite sadistic. but then, what seemed to be the 3rd song (and about 30 minutes into the gig) they did this tune that lifted me right outta my place on the bench, and sent me in heaven's direction. it was a progression up some scale that only made you feel like you were an angel and loving what you looked down upon (see "wings of desire"). after this i was hooked. the song took me to new heights previously experienced only when i was down and unhappy. (seeing Smog and Palace back in 95 had the same effect) see, i wasnt up for any menacing rhythms and melody, i was quite content with life as it had been today, and needed no change thank you very much. i left the gig saying "i am a changed person." they're playing tomorrow (friday) at the same venue, and i dont think its sold out. £10 was more than enough value for money. ts good to see cellos, violins, xylophones and an upright bass drum (a la mo tucker) being used to good effect. one guitar part i heard even sounded like the guitar hum right at the start of "if you're feeling sinister." i've got to cut it short now only as i have to clamber into bed and get some sleep, but i hope someone sees them tomorrow and feels the same way i did. (sorry poetry café for the clash). goodnight, amos +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eculb at xxx.com Fri Jul 16 02:26:23 1999 From: eculb at xxx.com (JaMeS) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 02:26:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Whew, im tired! Message-ID: <000701becf2a$382e7f60$dd5fac3e@jhkng> hi, not much to say really, just a line to say that to occupy the long summer months which would surely otherwise idly pass me by ive spent redesigning my webpage, still at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Hall/7789 nothing new here, ive put a couple of scanned in setlists on it but overall it looks a *little* bit more tidy i hope. or probably doesnt. anyway if anyone does stumble on it and finds glaring errors please let me know :) yeah and i apologise in advance for the annoying geocities ads... ..i saw that b&s doc which was on bbc scotland today as my sister kindly taped it for me. Chris was my favourite. aww, he's such a mummy's boy! where did i read that ' women just want to mother him'? he was great in it. yeah, and did anyone find out what that song was stuart was singing about Kelloggs and Nabisco was, nr the start of the prog? i cant remember if anyone did, its been really bugging me all day...like an early demo or something...ooh, and ive finally joined the picture sinister 'hall of fame', yay, or nay as the case may be..... JaMeS :) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Hall/7789 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SSharp5210 at xxx.com Fri Jul 16 02:43:37 1999 From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:43:37 EDT Subject: Sinister: Celtic Confusion. Message-ID: <486720d0.24bfe849@aol.com> Hiya. Somebody wrote inquiring about the Celtic/Rangers ratio....... During the BBC Scotland thingy Chris Geddes announced a love of Celtic and one of the B&S badges is in Celtic colours.Cool,non? Steve.Lazy and line painter.xxx p,s Fuck the huns............Just kidding and abusive.Neat. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlearsonist at xxx.com Fri Jul 16 04:16:42 1999 From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:16:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: stop the insanity! Message-ID: <19990716031642.16950.rocketmail@web106.yahoomail.com> oh, dear... as i sat in grand central station tonight waiting for my 9pm train, i thought, oh hell just splurge and buy Time Out even though there's never anything good in it... so i did... and there was a highly positive review of tigermilk (which by the way i received yesterday in the mail -- way to go, jeepsta! you all are the collective proverbial bomb! p!r!o!p!s!). except that -- they totally ragged on electronic renaissance... twice! the bastards! something like if b&s had left it off, the album would be a perfect pop album. sheesh! i agree with whoever said that it would have been easy to leave E.R. off the album but it's good they didn't -- soooo true! it's total silvery synth indulgence! admit it! you all shake yr boo-tay in the privacy of yr bedroom while listening to this track. i know it. mmm-hmmm. yes, mickmcmick!! we Must have a nyc b&s club night! and soon! before they send me kicking and screaming back to school in western pennsylvania -- which is, however, closer to my favourite state of ohio. c'mon! it's shaped like a freakin' heart! how could you not love a state shaped like a heart??? ohio -- the heart of it all... mmm... oh, um, mary jo slipped in: > i read an article in spin (i know i know, but it was > the same issue as the piece on rainer maria) that > lead me to believe that the blair with movie > story is completely false. A) ja wohl, it's totally a sham. which dun't make it any less freaky... B) do not... i repeat do NOT ... read the spin article on rainer maria... unless you already know and love them and can therefore disregard this piece of rubbish and icky ewwy orgy pic of a caithlin sandwich... what were they Thinking??? at least it's sort of funny b/c bill and kyle are all looking all into this naked thing, and caithlin looks obliviously bemusedly at the camera like, can you believe this?? blah! spin sux my lily white arse. oh, too much information... oh, enough rambling for one night. take care, all ... i'm off to sleep whilst listening to tigermmmmilk... programmed to repeat electronic renaissance a few times to fall asleep to, so there you blasphemers!! xoxo, marie === ************************************************************** "I was a proper snob in college, as only a future lifetime English major can be" - b. glass (jds) ************************************************************** "to me she was just marie." -mersault _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Fri Jul 16 07:07:03 1999 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 02:07:03 EDT Subject: Sinister: Re: Those Numbers are Right alright Message-ID: <6b8c4e6.24c02607@aol.com> It seems poor Matt accidentally mailed this only to me, but its obviously to the list to here it is: Howdy folks. This is my first post on the board. And, sorry to say, its a somewhat negative one. I would just like to get the record straight, if it hasn't already in later posts. The Blair Witch Project is completely fake. Ingenius as it is, it is, alas, not real. The directors hired the three actors, gave them camcorders, and told them to go out in the woods and ad lib. They left battery packs and instructions at certain areas for the cast to pick up. The directors would go into the woods at night, when the cast was asleep, and rustle around outside to scare them. It may seem real, but it is nothing more than a faux documentary. -Matt (Sebstian95 at aol.com) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samiamx at xxx.com Fri Jul 16 12:36:37 1999 From: samiamx at xxx.com (Sam Devere) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 04:36:37 PDT Subject: Sinister: Electronic Ren Opinion vs. Factory Message-ID: <19990716113638.68688.qmail@hotmail.com> I had de-lurk, I couldn't resist this one. I LOVE Electronic Rennaisance. I do agree with Mick and Xavier and the early New Order reference (especially Mick's comment on B&S writing more synthy songs), but I think an even more appropriate Factory band would be OMD. ER sounds like the 'Maid or Orleans'/'Souvenir'/'Joan of Arc' days, though I'm unsure if they were still on Factory at that point. I love the fragile, off-kilter, gothic synth sounds of those three OMD songs and wish I could find more of that genre. Does anyone know what ever happened to Camouflage? As for New Order, Gillian joined in late 1980, in time to record the alternate version of Ceremony (which is different than the one on Substance, and better in my opinion). Also, the Other Two (Gillian and Stephen's) and Electronic released new ones in the past couple of months, haven't heard them yet. Sam _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samiamx at xxx.com Fri Jul 16 12:47:51 1999 From: samiamx at xxx.com (Sam Devere) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 04:47:51 PDT Subject: Sinister: Re: Procession Confession Message-ID: <19990716114752.1739.qmail@hotmail.com> >like the glossily overproduced Technique, in my opinion. "ER" is very >lo-fi,really one of the loest-fi B&S have ever done. I love Technique, I think it's their best album. The production does sound very sonically (is this even a word?) clean. But it differs from other New Order albums in the dichotomy of the all synth vs. all guitar songs, versus previous albums which usually melded the two. Of course the World Cup anthem was the beginning of the downfall, it's either that or because they eased up on E or whatever else they were doing. We are so lucky to be able to enjoy B&S while they are unfolding. Unfortunately, I was either too young or unaware of other wonderful bands (Smiths, Lilac Time, etc.) as they progressed. Is Atari Teenage Riot worth seeing live? - Sammy _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Fri Jul 16 13:11:07 1999 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:11:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Huge Flipping Great Big Picnic in Honeys Honour - open invite! In-Reply-To: <378DE5BE.D4D1986E@ohiou.edu> References: <378DE5BE.D4D1986E@ohiou.edu> Message-ID: Sinister people, Word! Alone? At work? At home? Feeling like there must be more to life than reading Dawsons Wrap? (http://www.dawsonswrap.com) Well, the solution to your problems is at the end of this month! Yes folks - HOT DAMN - there will be a Huge Fucking Great Big Picnic in honour of Honeys Huge Fucking Computers (they brought us all together!), in London Towne this 31st of July. I will be there, and so will lots of people, and lots of booze too. It will be cool, you all should come. People from all over the country are going to come, and Oon from Thailand should come too, cos she is ace. Apparently according to Londoners wot know these things - this picnic will be on "Primrose Hill", and we will meet everyone at "Camden Tube" at 2pm - and then bimble off up a hill I supose. We'll get drunk and eat picnic foods and do whatever one *does* at picnics, I supose. I went to Camden once. I bought a Freedesign album and the B*witched single. I expected to see more Menswe at r type people. Instead I just saw shops with Fucking Huge Sound Systems playing what is probably Drill'n'Bass. Thanks for explaning that concept to me Andy :) A few of us are going to have a meet-up before the Marine Research shennanigans on the 29th, but flip knows whats going on there. Best mail me or Alix Campbell if you want to come along. Me and Alix and Miss Erica Miss and Johnk and his harem of laydee-friends are going. Martin Rissotto, drop me a life if you're coming too, you big smellface. But enough about that: New Order man!! Mick Mc Pennington mentioned "Dreams Never End" - what a wonderful song! Even though it has Peter Hook singing right? Bless the dude. I wonder if he had his mic down as low as his bass? Oh what a man, Peter Hook. Scruffy bastard eh? I'm suprised no-one else seems to have noted a more upsetting remark in one of Brian McMicks (Sorry I really have no idea which name I should stick too, I like the mix) other posts, which expressed less than complimentary remarks about Stevies songs - what fuckers eh?? Stevie rocks! Stevie "Guitar God" Jackson, oh yeah. I wake up to Stevie every morning - admittedly cos I have the Manchester concert poster above my bed - but hey if I could program my cd player to wake me up to Chickfactor each morning I'd be a much happier person. Apparently William Hague is concerned about "the swelling wave of English Nationalism". Yes. Cos I've noticed so many people proud to be English these days. Even I cling desperately to the fact "I was born in Scotland we just had to move when I was three" excuse. Why not let the English be proud of their own country? If they can find anything to be proud OF, surely isn't that *good*? Or are we sticking to the common assumption anyone with a bit of pride in England is a racist sexist OI! skinhead? Too much time on my hands folks, bye, Love Sarah xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Fri Jul 16 15:08:56 1999 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:08:56 -0700 Subject: Sinister: slander, libel, white horses Message-ID: hello folks, tigermilk sounds rather fine in glorious digital splendour doesn't it? i wish they'd left that dodgy synth track off though. ~ that review in select said the line in mary jo about the thespian with a caravanette in hull was struan's most morrissey-like lyric, but i would have thought it was the bit in i could be dreaming that goes "do you want to do it now? outside the butchers with a knife and a bike chain." anyway, what are we going to to about tigermilk? it never occurred to me before, but even sister disco must have found it impossible to get an amusing TWATTYBUS style permutation out of the acronym "T". i bought two copies of the cd this week, one for me and one for my dad whose birthday is today - this is in keeping with his christmas present in 1996 being a copy of sinister. i haven't been listening to T too much though. i've been listening to simon and garfunkel instead, due to the select review reminding me about the songs the b&s/sodastream/ v-twin supergroup played to entertain the queue at bowlie. i was wondering if anyone had a complete list of all the covers that b&s have ever performed live. i searched the archives, honest, but couldn't find a complete list. and when are they going to get around to playing white horses? kevan fat slug *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris.jones at xxx.uk Fri Jul 16 18:47:17 1999 From: chris.jones at xxx.uk (Chris Jones) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1999 18:47:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Mick Cooke Message-ID: <199907161812.TAA04184@smtp.saqnet.co.uk> chris.jones at saqnet.co.uk http://www.saqnet.co.uk/users/saxtead/chris.htm Apologies for the relevant subject heading, I know it is a bit out of character. I may be being a bit dozy here, but didn't we get an e-mail from Mick Cooke the other day? Nobody has really mentioned this, and, if it was him this is the first time that I can recall a band member posting to the list. Sorry if I missed the 1001 messages that were actually about Mick Cookes e-mail, or if I have been fooled by a thinly disguised Mick Cooke hoax. Chris Jones. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Jul 16 19:54:54 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:54:54 +0200 Subject: Sinister: British Rock Symphony Message-ID: <01becfbc$b19fe540$LocalHost@itjfvkli> What a swizz! The British Rock Symphony album only features Daltry on two tracks - "Kashmir" and "Let It Be". No way am I buying that. What's more, Duke will have to time his canal towpath cycle-by very carefully to catch Daltry in action. The other tracks are stuff like "Comfortably Numb". Not a whiff of Hawkwind though. I haven't seen the new edition of T yet, but already confusion clouds my...erm...sky. I seem to recall being told that the Cd would retail at about 7 pounds, and that there wouldn't be any tits on the cover. Did this turn out to be true, or was it another oversight at Jeepster? Speaking of which, I visited the Jeepster website the other day (to see the new artwork) and was greeted by the bizarre legend "Belle and Sebastian because the kids are alright". Have I missed something? Surely if Jeepster must bootleg perfectly good WHO titles they could choose something a bit more appropriate, like "Belle and Sebastian because we won't get fooled again" or "Belle and Sebastian because love ain't for keeping" or "Belle and Sebastian because I'm your Uncle Ernie and I welcome you to Tommy's Holiday Camp". The other day I came across a K Records sampler that came free with an expensive magazine a few years ago. The last track is "Wishing Well" by Glo-Worm, from an album called "Glimmer" (KLP 54). There are no writing credits. Is it you, Pam? The song lasts 1 minute 48 seconds or thereabouts. I quite like "Ally McBeal". I don't think anyone should be proud of their country, in fact I think everyone should emigrate, like a huge international game of musical chairs. My slogan is "PRUSSIANS IN PRESTON!" I'm beginning to get on my own nerves now. I look forward to reading about Tim's triumphal bounceback into the limelight, the most anxiuosly awaited pop resurrection since the Jasmine Minks or Blondie. Cheers, Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steve at xxx.uk Fri Jul 16 20:29:02 1999 From: steve at xxx.uk (Steve Genge) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:29:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bunch of Loopers? Message-ID: <008b01becfc1$77a6a400$8ee5989e@wphnvffu> as in, any plans yet for a New York sinisterine pre-looper gig meetup? if not, I'll volunteer my services to help arrange one. email me privately and we'll collectively sort something out. I've got my own cubicle at my internship now. moving up in the world, I tell you. moving to different offices at least. and we've got a PANTRY (not break room, mind, PANTRY) with free fountain soda in Viacom cups. MTV is one floor down. anyone else on the list work in the Paramount building on Broadway? we could do lunch. I'm tempted to download mIRC on my computer here and chat clandestinely, like Honey and Keith (Who?) and Timmy P!O!P!kins did in the old days. sigh. and in light of recent allusions to Wilco, I saw the Old 97s play last night and they ROCKED. if you like _Summerteeth_ give their _Fight Songs_ a try. lead singer Rhett is a big b&s fan, apparently, and it seems that the handclaps on the song "Oppenheimer" were b&s-inspired. go figure. so NY looper-bound listees, drop me a line. au reservoir, Amanda . . .. . .. . .. . "If you are good at anything, that is beauty." --from _Taxi Driver Wisdom_ >>visit *Red Roses for Me* fanzine<< http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Cabaret/9043 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steve at xxx.uk Fri Jul 16 20:42:33 1999 From: steve at xxx.uk (Steve Genge) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:42:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bunch of Loopers? References: <008b01becfc1$77a6a400$8ee5989e@wphnvffu> Message-ID: <009901becfc3$5af60ec0$8ee5989e@wphnvffu> Errrr I've been informed by my list crush to inform you all that the Looper meet up message was from HER not ME. Contact her at swanarama at hotmail.com that's it byeeeeee "Pain and beauty, our constant bedfellows." Sabine Strohem steve at seahorses.demon.co.uk Red Roses For Me Fanzine http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Cabaret/9043 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SSharp5210 at xxx.com Sat Jul 17 00:09:36 1999 From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:09:36 EDT Subject: Sinister: Back from the pub posting Message-ID: <1c566aa9.24c115b0@aol.com> Hi poptarts, Just back from the pub and slightly,ahem,"delicate".However this simply means that big words will be scare and badly spelled.The point is that I asked 9 people about B&S and got 2 "No clues",3 "The band that rigged the Brits" and 4 "The really cool bands"....Is this media penetration not going too far?...Blah,blah basically a nothing post but I do love you all.;) Steve.Lubricated yet still sunny natured.xxxxxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SSharp5210 at xxx.com Sat Jul 17 00:18:16 1999 From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:18:16 EDT Subject: Sinister: Blah. Message-ID: and I meant scarce rather than scare......It aint easy being a buffoon. Steve x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daftpunk at xxx.au Sat Jul 17 06:25:16 1999 From: daftpunk at xxx.au (Kin WOO) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 13:25:16 +0800 (WST) Subject: Sinister: WILCO dilemma!:) (not B&S related) and anticipated movies:) Message-ID: Hey listees, Thanks to all the darlinks! who voiced their opinions on the new Wilco album. But here is the real question (sorry for it not being B&S related) which is better: "Being There" or "Summer Teeth"? I like my country music heart-breaking with pedal steel and gorgeous melodies in it (Palace, Smog, some of Tanya Donelly, Lambchop). Do either of them fit that description??? Give the lowdown on those albums! In my stereo: One Dove "Breakdown" one of the most gorgeous song ever written Delakota "C'mon Cincinnati" Travis' new stuff American listees who have seen either "Eyes Wide Shut" and "Blair Witch Project" (can't wait to see both of 'em). What's the general consensus on them? Did you enjoy them? Seeya later listees Kin Woo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Sat Jul 17 21:21:14 1999 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 16:21:14 EDT Subject: Sinister: WILCO dilemma!:) (not B&S related) and anticipated movies:) Message-ID: <70a823be.24c23fba@aol.com> Kin Woo asked: << which is better: "Being There" or "Summer Teeth"? >> If you like music the way you say you do (heartbreakingly beautiful and sincere) then Being There is right up your alley. Most of it is acoustic dirges and pedal steel lullabyes that are complemented so beautifully by Jeff Tweedy's soothing voice that it almost kills you. Its not so country as its been labeled. Its sort of the borderline between early Stones and Woody Guthrie, with more of the former than the latter. Summerteeth is more racous and Beach Boys-ish, but its great as well. Its not as personal or affecting at BT, but if you like rock more than gentle pop you'll like it. Its got alot more synths and screaming and moogs. Personally I recommend Being There. Its not that Summerteeth is a bad album, but when you try to follow up a contemporary classic anything you do will pale in comparison. Well, I hope this helped more than confused and that you enjoy whichever you choose...later Steve C. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From benjbot at xxx.com Sat Jul 17 12:52:34 1999 From: benjbot at xxx.com (Benjamin Dexter) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 12:52:34 AKDT Subject: Sinister: new member Message-ID: <19990717205235.3286.qmail@hotmail.com> Dear fellow list members, This is m first post to the list. I'd have sent one earlier, but I just learned how to send an e-mail, so I'm not sure if this will work. I first heard this lovely band on Christmas morning, when it was and she heard they were similar to his music. By halfway through the first verse of "It Could Have Been A Brilliant Career," I knew I'd love this band. I've got all the lps and eps, but I've never heard them live or seen their videos. Does anyone know how I could alleviate this problem without leaving the United States? I live in Alaska, and aside from one person, I've never met a Belle and Sebastian fan. Is there anyone here from Alaska or near Alaska? That's pretty much all I have to say for starters. I've enjoyed observing this list and look forward to being a part of it. -Benjamin Dexter p.s. I do like "Electronic Rennaissance." _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jthorniley at xxx.net Sat Jul 17 22:11:34 1999 From: jthorniley at xxx.net (James Thorniley) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 22:11:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ahhh, I am *really* sorry (re:unsubscribe) Message-ID: <3790F186.60F9ACA0@hedgehog.freehosting.net> Oops, I just realised I sent that goddamn unsubscribe to the list. This is because of one f***er of a cock-up. Ahh well, now I've disturbed you all I might as well tell you the story. It all started (strangely enough) when I subscribed to the list. Whilst still in the nursery period, I recieved a message headed "sinister: Looper in dc/ny [maybe philly]" I'd just like to say that I am head over heels in love with "lost madflowr", who sent this, as this message really did in my e-mail system, and I could not recieve any messages (please don't think you could have solved the problem, I am a nerd myself y'know). Anyway, to cut a long story short (and to try and avoid an unsighlty rant) I had to cancel this account with the ISP and switch to a new one. This would be alright, except that it seems that during the period when I could not recieve e-mail I was given my voice, so I have not got the message that apparently you get when you get a voice. I thought I might as well unsubscribe, ride out the nursery period again, and just get that message. And that was how I came to piss you off. I have to say, this was not how I pictured getting my voice (y'know, most people start off with "I've just got my voice, so...."; hot shot James T starts off with "unsubscribe". I'm so great, I didn't even write "unsubscribe sinister"). Belle and Sebastian? They're crap. Well, that's what everybody keeps telling me. On Wednesday I thought I could show that I didn't care what people thought by buying the Tigermilk re-release whilst out with a few friends. The reaction was weird beyond degree. Have you ever had the feeling that your person you're talking to is actually talking to someone else, y'know, they talk back to you, but it doesn't follow on from what you've just said. Did this happen to anyone else? No, not crap. I think the word used was "queer" ?!? Thanks for listening to this pile of s**t (I'm talking about the message, not me). -- James Thorniley "We know all men are not created equal" -- Harper Lee, "To Kill a Mockingbird". +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rehakk at xxx.edu Sun Jul 18 04:13:30 1999 From: rehakk at xxx.edu (Kimberly Rehak) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 23:13:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Forwarded mail....from me to me to you, don't worry Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 23:05:24 -0400 (EDT) From: KIMberly Rehak To: rehakk at alleg.edu good evening, it's saturday night and i'm sleepy. i'm too without energy to get up and go out and do something so i decided to post. i've been caged in a shoe store all day (job #3) and will be there all day tomorrow. last night, i grabbed tigertitties from my car and tossed it in the cd player we have a work. it lasted a few songs before they made me take it out. "put the r&b back in." incidently, (actually it is not incidently, it just sounded like a proper transistion to use) i found out i start working job #4 (if you work for much any longer you'll be known as the girl who always working) on the day i come home from new york. new york looper meet up, bitte please? i'll be there. you can see me. i'll fix my hair really pretty and shave my legs and pitties (sorry, i play with the stubs too much when it's growing too long there) a la smooth and maybe bring fluffy fluffly lala along (it's a purse) and -if you're lucky- make my infamous monkey face!!! oooo, such a wonderful offer, i know. . . . at the shoe store we have two shoes. one is named bella and the other is named sebastian (sebastian is on clearance sale for $10). perhaps i should take a picture of bella and sebastian personified in shoe form? i feel like i have been hiding in a hole for the past week. i haven't seen my beautiful mummy in about three days and i live with her! she asked me to go miniature golfing after work today but i was too unenergetic and poor to go. does anyone know what blonde redhead are like live? i shall find out tomorrow anyway. the lonesome organist is great live! as he played his closing tune with some tap shoes and a steel drum, this piss drunk dude from "back stage" came out in his undies (pants?) and had this silly, bewildered look on his face. i forget what i was going to say here... oooo now i know. i wanted to thank everyone who offered to tape the r1 bowlie broadcast for me. i asked and soo many people responded so generously and kindly and it really touched my heart and thanks for everyone on sinister for being internet geeks like me. hehe must go, granny wants to head to bed and i'm at her home, love and kisses, KIMberly xx _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sun Jul 18 04:53:42 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 20:53:42 PDT Subject: Sinister: 11 Roddington Place Message-ID: <19990718035343.86001.qmail@hotmail.com> ha ha! hej hej! just kidding..I have no idea what roddington place is,I`m just trying to be witty and fit in. My grandfather has never been in a Belle and Sebastian video...that has gotta be the neatest thing.Seriously.I really think you should inform your grandpa just how hip he is,Alasdair!! I had to babysit 2 babies today and the video they wanted to watch the most was "Elmopalooza". There is this video on it by a guy named Kenny Loggins called "One Small Voice" and it shows a talent show going on,and one small boy afraid to take part in it..the singer,Kenny Loggins,I`m assuming,really bothers me (or maybe I secretly love him and it drives me insane)...if B&S ever do a video like that I will have to kill them all and then myself. I`ve realised my dances for Belle and Sebastian are treading that ugly,dangerous line between dancing and miming.Its very sad. one of my friends went to this musical fest where Hole was playing at,and you know how when bands are fixing there stage or whatever,they play music of their choice..well during Hole`s set, "The Stars Of Track and Field" came on and Miss Love started talking to the audience "Do you know Belle and Sebastian? Aren`t they lovely! Of course you wouldnt know about them,you heavy metal fuckers" etc etc lots of rude words that I wouldnt use. I actually have some Belle and Sebastian questions..because I`ve realised I`m not up with everything on them.There was a time..when I owned everything...now I`m just an average joe. a)Where can I see/get this documentary of B&S,lots of footage of the band looking out the window while the tour bus drives hopefully! b)Where can I see/get musical videos other than Is It Wicked Not To Care. I am intrigued,because,on the Sleeka Sounds Stuart Murdoch fansite,a clip from that video shows Stuart with black hair and a raincoat.Hmmm. c)Where can I hear all those songs people sometimes talk about, such as:Rhoda,Wrong Girl,Winter Pooksie,The Lonlieness Of The Middle Distance Runner,Lord Anthony. (I think thats it) Haven`t seen Eyes Wide Shut yet for listees who were questioning.Would make a good date movie huh..alas,the boys wont ask me out because of my buck-teeth and split-ends.Eagerly anticipating Blair Witch Prject.Haven`t been scared by a movie since many moons ago.Hoping Poetry Cafe night went well. I had to buy some coffee for my papa today and I had just about the nicest server ever(and i dont have a crush on him either if thats what youre thinking)..not only did he invite me behind the counter,he showed me the various types of beans,varying in hue and fragrance and description "sweet,mellow" "mysterious,exquisite nutty flavour" I was genuinely impressed.Costa Rican beans.West Indies beans! Beans Baguette as well.(no not really)It does pay to be nice,really it does! sleepy (harr..can you tell??)oh be nice,I`m just trying to make conversation...sorry it dragged on. love & beans, genevieve p.s Good luck to the Stuart David staff.I agree whole-heartdely..well,at first i must admit I was a little jealous,a little protective,but stuarts got a lotta lovin to share around,so we can all be in this together.Y`all on this list should help them out you know. ***www.droolz.ukf.net (because it feels better)*** ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Heatrexo at xxx.com Sun Jul 18 07:47:09 1999 From: Heatrexo at xxx.com (Heatrexo at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 02:47:09 EDT Subject: Sinister: he's got the monkeys, let's see the monkeys Message-ID: <340713e3.24c2d26d@aol.com> not a very belle and sebastianesque subject..but Alladdin is definitely my favorite Disney movie, kind of. Hello Everyone! Mission accomplished!! my best friend, Alex; has now joined Sinister safely resting in the nursery. I've nothing really exciting to say, but i'll say it anyway... I saw Eyes Wide Shut on Friday. I thought it was excellent. I also had the erm...luck of seeing She's All That. If that movie is running towards you, run the opposite direction and fast, same thing goes for McDonalds breakfast food.. As far as the (Tony/Linda)Blair Witch Project... I'm not allowing myself to see it, even though i do consider myself quite the tough bad ass. ::cough:: I would be afraid the rest of my life (not like i'm not already)... I would undoubtably leave in a state of terror.Raise your hand if you've seen it already. Was it really pants splitting scary? Apparently it's either never showing in Milwaukee or it's been postponed. Ohhh...yeah, I thought Darth Maul was scary too ..::shudder::not as scary as the "powder man" (that's what i call him) in Lost Highway.. I think i must just be afraid of everyone on the planet. As for Belle and Sebastian content.. I finally got the "This is Just a Modern Rock Song" EP (Yes, partially cos it was hard to find..partially cos i have no money) and i got a chance to put it on after work this morning ( i work in a nursery)....I threw my head back in delight..Slow Graffiti is just plain gorgeous.. not suprising..something else i'm in love with by belle and sebastian.. Ohhhhh...I've filled all of your heads with Blah. Hopefully everyone is doing well. Starfish and Secret Handshakes to Alex a kitty who's lost her mittens, Heatherxoxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vlass at xxx.com Sun Jul 18 13:42:49 1999 From: vlass at xxx.com (vlass at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 08:42:49 -0400 Subject: Sinister: tootiredto think ofacleversubject Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19990718124249.00a7fbe4@mail.interlog.com> dear sinister kids, it's 6am and i am beggining to feel exhausted after having woken up at 5, but that's just jetlag settling in. yes, it's time for me to return to a normal existence of work and things after 5 wonderful weeks away from home. actually, looper is playing tomorrow in toronto so i get to live in this fantasy world for one more day. i've been having dreams of miss emily and i seeing this looper band, so hopefully my premonitions will come true. anyway, i was london for 7 days in july and it being my first time there, i was naively and unjadedly impressed. it was quite a belle and sebastian week - lovely debbie from this very list housed me and my incomparable greek cousin (thank you!) and if you're ever looking for a wild time, ask debbie to take you to her grey house in willesden green :) . i watched that mtv belle and sebastian special and saw every single b&s video in existence. cheers to the sleater-kinney girl in dirty dream #2.. like a tourist i exclaimed over silly song references - "there's boots! let me get a free book!" "let's look for the man who drives mini-cabs down in old compton!" "can we turn tables round in marks and spencer's even though we have marks and spencer's in toronto it still seems appropriate!".. etc etc. and of course, the cherry at the top were the 2 picnics that were held.. those uk picnics have an advantage over north american ones because it is actually legal to booze it up in the park.. i mean, i'm sure we could do that here, but in the afternoon in blatant sunlight? it seems so alien! but yes, the picnics were *wonderful* and i met lovely, lovely people and when i get my 5rolls of travel film developped, i'll show everyone those sinister pictures. so let me send out a shout out to those special boys and girls i got to meet on primhose hill, which is hard to climb if you've gotten very little sleep... but other than that 1 week there, i spent the remaining 4 in greece. i know that john k, daphne and vaso are going to london in a few days so everyone adore them because they are the sweetest. i didn't manage to say goodbye to them properly because my cousin and i got distracted by that band blur who were playing at this funny big festival in athens called ROCKWAVE. we didn't pay to see them, we snuck in like deviants through bars in the fence and hid from security guards, and honestly that was the most exciting part of the concert. blur was pretty boring but maybe that's a given. anyway, it's still nice to be home and yes, looper tomorrow! (um.. or is it today?.. my schedules are all messed up..) teri xxxx ps. if you gave me your email address, there is a good chance that it's lost somewhere in my luggage so please email me and refresh my memory.. or if you sent me mail, i'll get back to you sooooooon we design synthesizers: http://members.tripod.com/~meltingsnow/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.net Sun Jul 18 16:05:07 1999 From: rebelstrange at xxx.net (Lesley J Miller) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 08:05:07 -0700 Subject: Sinister: don't shave your legs when they're covered in mosquito bites Message-ID: <001c01bed12e$ed455f80$2911020a@rebelstrange> howdy nectarines, just having seen the new b/s web sight, and c'est chic. love the "Hi-tech" b&s logo. and the funny picture of weechris. and muchrod's new entry. yes teh blair witch thing is a big fake story, so dont' freak out, children, it's all tales. i'm doubting just HOW scary the film could be, alhtough it looks really interesting and cheap. i just really like the way that girl screams in all the promos, it's beautiful. what a great scream. I like screamers. fella you are ill......i should have known it was cursed. my life is turning into some fucked up soap opera. i feel abandoned, strung along and despised, yet i'm still sexually frustrated, go figure. maybe she's born with it, maybe it's maybelline, who knows? but it's made my life into a living nightmare. sorry to go on, but it does irk me that sheseems to prefer guzzling malt liquor in cornfields wiht a bulldyke, than even spending time with me. *WHO* loves ya baby?? never mind, what a load of rubbish. but it's all good, because i am a witch, and i'm putting a hex on all of them what wronged me. a pox on you, BOO! all the ppl that hate the gentle waves, is it because they dont' like her voice? in more pleasant veins, i have made another belle convert just last night. listen......i'm hanging out with a gay boy who i met cos he's a friend of artgirl. (by Jove....!) i ran into him one night and attended a soiree,a nd we became fast confidants and partners in cryme, namely and chiefly the cryme of figuring out what the hell is the deal with artgirl pullin gmy strings. but anyway, so i was showing hin my photo album which had a couple pictures from DC of the belles and stuart M. at the sight of Stuey's Arms of Sex, my gay boy friend was entranced. "He's cute......he's so sexy!" andf other compliments. i began sighing about the many virtues of this band, and offered to pull out my tape of dog on wheels/3-6-9. and my friend enjoyed it so much he wanted to hear more of them. i do believe he's in lust with stu. "He'd be a credit to our race," he observed. tee-hee. stuart hath charms to persuade boys and girls alike. still, i wish he could have sighed over isobel with me. how strange!! i realized how fun it is to have gay boys as friends. they were looking thru my sketchbook, and i didn't mind at all for them to see my *ahem* selfportrait, cos i knew they wouldn't leer at me, they think girls prts are icky!! *hehe* still i refused to let the straight boy look at it, that just wouldn't be right. no sir, i dont' like that at all. i just wanted to tell y'all about that cos it made my day. weathershow kicks my ass. stevie rocks out!!! dreaming of DC, see you at loooooooper!!!! *aw shucks!* LJ http://www.members.tripod.com/rebelstrange "why take a trip on acid when you can read the Bible?" --PJH SAVE MST3K!!!! http://www.mst3kinfo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sun Jul 18 15:21:22 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 10:21:22 -0400 Subject: Sinister: La Magie Blanche Pour Les Aimants Message-ID: <199907181021_MC2-7D69-AFDD@compuserve.com> Hi Motherless Children, Recently my listening has centred around Belle and Sebastian almost to the point of obsession, so I thought I should branch out a bit. Having been Too Pooped To PoCaff on Friday, Sally & I went to an excellent gig last night to see that rarity, 2 worthwhile bands on the same bill. (There was a third, but they were pooh.) First good band (1) played brilliantly, especially the singer's beehive hairdo & her eyelashes, apparently a legacy from the Springfield estate. (That's Dusty, not the Simpsons' hometown, little ones) Bloody good guitarist as well, not so much spanking his plank as wrestling it to the ground, overpowering it & then strangling it. Reminded me of Billy Coté, but maybe that's a common influence from Thurston Moore. Only problem was, he looked just like Stuart Murdoch. (Cheekbones) The headliners (2) featured a singer called Isabel and a cello. Damn! Is there no escape? However Isabel was a passionate Latin fireball strutting around playing bass & singing like a demon, & teasing the little indie boys in the front row. Great tunes, excellent playing, and kept doing encores, including Sebadoh & Pavement covers, until the management finally threw them off stage. Oh, & they kicked off with FOUR cellos on stage, one of which played by a bloke whom Sally had a crush on at 14 when he was in The Hanging Tree. She talked to him afterwards, which was nice, & I squeezed hands with Isabel, & she was really nice, too. And tiny. When not on stage. My mouth is opening & closing, and no words are coming out, but only because bloody Miller stole them all! (Including the typos :) ) Firstly he purloined: This section houses a very nice autobigraphical piece by Stuart Lee Murdosch, which every self-respecting B&S fan will want to read and learn by heart. It's really very nice, I hope it's the first installment of a full length autobiography. So I sat back & tried to think of something suitably cutting & witty about the revived B&S (BuS?) site & its relationship to Sinister & Jeepster, but found that he had written this: Well done to Chris Leonard and new listee Mick Cooke for their excellent new websites. I don't think it would be going too far to say that they both have the potential to eventually become essential. Bastard! (3) Those life-changing Flaming Lips are in session on John Peel this Tuesday evening, and there's a new Cinerama 7" out soon on Elefant: anyone wanting a bit more info mail me. I don't know where this Sunday has gone but my underarms smell, and my kitchen DOES look like hell. Big love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK (1) Linoleum (2) Drugstore (3) I don't mean it, Peter! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris.jones at xxx.uk Sun Jul 18 17:28:18 1999 From: chris.jones at xxx.uk (Chris Jones) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1999 17:28:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Chart/Tigermilk relationship Message-ID: <199907181630.RAA16319@smtp.saqnet.co.uk> chris.jones at saqnet.co.uk http://www.saqnet.co.uk/users/saxtead/chris.htm I am listening to Radio 1 now, they are playing the number 21 tune, that means album countdown next. Ooh, where will it be? Here we go: 10. The Man Who - Travis (cool album) 9. The Very Best - Dean Martin 8. Party Album - Vengaboys 7. Surrender - Chemical Brothers 6. Synkronized - Jamiroquai 5. Gold - Abba 4. My Love Is Your Love - Whitney Houston 3. Ricky Martin - Ricky Martin 2. Come On Over - Shania Twain 1. By Request - Boyzone Where is it? There must be a mistake, how did Tigermilk fail to make the top 10? Chris Jones. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Sun Jul 18 20:39:17 1999 From: johnj at xxx.com (JJ) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 20:39:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: no.13 with a bullet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990718203917.007a3610@mail.u-net.com> Oh well, never mind. As you may or may not know, Tigermilk went into the UK album charts this weekend at number 13, and there was me thinking it'd beat the number 12 slot held by it's predecessor. No. We saw REM last night, they were so BORING. Teenage Fanclub supported and they were NOT boring in fact they kicked arse. They *were* rock. Evening all. JJ xxxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pinaplcrsh at xxx.com Mon Jul 19 00:57:35 1999 From: Pinaplcrsh at xxx.com (Pinaplcrsh at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 19:57:35 EDT Subject: Sinister: mr. and mrs. erotic american Message-ID: <1746b266.24c3c3ef@aol.com> so i listened to tigermilk proper for the first time last night as i was trying to go to sleep. i was hoping it would take me far away to a lovely fantasy land where i had no problems. i had lost it by 'she's losing it' and was silently crying into my pillow so i wouldn't wake up my friend sleeping next to me. why can't i have an artgirl or a crush on a waitress i don't know? why do i have to be deeply in love with a girl who can't be with me? can you teach someone that they're capable of loving or do they have to figure it out on their own? i know she's got the love in her, but she won't admit to herself or anyone else. i'm willing to try anything to shake it out of her. i just want to be allowed to love her and take care of her for the rest of our lives-to sit on the porch with my cats and her dog and the bunnies we talked about getting together. there were posts a while ago about dreaming that you were in love, but they were far from real as i noticed there wasn't much hurt in them. *sigh* oh, i just found the post by alisdair about his dream. that feeling in the pit of your stomach doesn't go away easily and it's even worse when accompanied by a heart that aches from being smashed into a million pieces. maybe a picture of genevieve's heaving prom bosoms would cheer me up... sorry for all the sulking. i did love tigermilk though, of course. i think iyfs is still my favorite, but tigermilk could take it's place very soon. it won't get proper stereo play until i get over the beauty of the new marine research album though. i'm head over heels for it and i keep picturing amelia dancing with her recorder and cathy looking stunning behind her keyboard. that cathy is quite a picture. i'm hoping that she and isobel can play nicely together and not fight for my dreams. isobel happens to pop up quite often, usually in a supporting role, but she blows me kisses a lot as i pass by her. i had all these things i've been wanting to post about and i can't remember them. thank you to all of you who sent me birthday wishes and offers of gifts. i promise i will write back to you soon. i dreamt that i ran into the duke last night at the sanrio store in san fransisco. he was wearing a gold cardboard crown. that's how i recognized him as the duke. i'm worried about honey. i heard that he's ill. is he ok? oh, another way this list is taking over my daily life...i keep thinking that i'm reading paula cullen booze explosion on everything. my mind is playing tricks. cocktail hour is starting so i'll go now. sorry that this post is lacking so much, but i had to tell someone about my heart. hope all of you are well. *alyssa marie* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Mon Jul 19 01:45:54 1999 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake E Hamilton) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 20:45:54 -0400 Subject: Sinister: oh how the dark star will rise Message-ID: <001f01bed180$1164f280$ebb690cf@woody> dearest muffins (flour based, of course), i am writing to inform all of a drastically terrible monumental thing that is about to happen: i am unsubbing from sinister. but, only for a week er so. you see i'm taking a road trip up to cleveland and then later to detroit. if there are any sinisterines in those areas, please email me this very evening and we shall see what we can do about it. i really can't see how anyone would want to meet me. all i do is sulk and smile shyly, ugh, i hate myself. no, i don't. someone help me out here. thanks to all the sinister folk who made fun of me the other day in the sinister chatroom. sinister, oh so very sinister indeed. they called me 'rent boy' or something like that. oh, it was dreadful. tigermilk, well, i got it, and it's my favorite b&s album. and struan does unzip his fly in the beginning of expectations, a tape glitch i thought to be a tape glitch that isn't that at all. oh that dirty struan. i'm sure there are loads of birds on this list hoping that they were the ones unzipping his zipper. oh smut, they'll never take me alive. i wish isobel had done more backing vocals than she did on tigermilk, but i guess she was a bit shy. and it's oh so more ravishing. the following is a PRIVATE message to isobel campbell and nobody else can read it: bel, will you marry me? response by email preferred. ok so here it goes. you can spend your life with me. so either check 'yes' or 'no' down below. i'm sure the grade school boys threw this one at you often. i'm sure you know what to do. blakie i love you! you are a daisy petal that was untouched by the rain! _____ | | |____ | blakie i still love you! but i don't think the glasgow-hilton head, sc thing would work. how about some erroneous affairs? some public sexual encounters? anything that makes you randy? _____ | | |____ | check the appropriate box, please. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- goodbye kids, be good, and keep your summer yellow. if anyone wants to ring in with a little hi, just send it to my hamibe02 at wfu.edu thingee. but i'm afraid that isobel's mail will be read before anyone else's. tis the nature of the beast, and quite wicked, even though, i do, care. blake xx the nerdy shy eyed pacifist actually i won't be unsubbing until tomorrow morning, so lets make these last posts oh so memorable. they always are, i suppose i should shutup now? yes, i'll go now.... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Kt788 at xxx.com Mon Jul 19 05:32:18 1999 From: Kt788 at xxx.com (Kt788 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:32:18 EDT Subject: Sinister: every hair is numbered like every grain of sand Message-ID: <7701767.24c40452@aol.com> True story... I was sitting in my car melting from the blinding heat (because i am too poor to fix the air conditioner) in yucky cape cod traffic and i was blaring iyfs from my stereo to keep me alive. nobody was appreciating it very much but do i care? of course i do not. Then a lovely little old lady with a car full of pretty pretty flowers was next to me and she said "what radio station are you listening to?" and i said "oh. it's a cd" and she says "oh, it's very pretty." That made my day. I don't why but it did. And today i can't seem to find it which makes me very very sad. oh well there are more in the record store and i am going to see looper on tuesday. apparantly there are many boston listees so i hope i will see you all. i am bringing my good silly b&s convert friend so much fun should had. i will be wearing the brightest red pants you've ever seen so say Hell-o if you see me. I haven't posted in a while but i am in The Strangest mood. i had The Craziest dream EVER last night and to-night i cut off all my long locks. I can't stop playing with my hair, so light and bouncy, bouncy, bouncy. This is probably how all those young little flappers felt bobbing their hair for the first time. well, no, probably not. Now you know why i haven't posted in a while. Because i'm Boring and Crazy and that is not a good combination, no. And knowing is Half the battle. so now you'll just have steal my flag. No Don't! winning isn't everything. hugs and nuzzles and warm milk, juniper p.s. has anyone else noticed how much fun it is to get dressed/undressed to the song dog on wheels? i have. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i_love_moon at xxx.com Mon Jul 19 08:09:45 1999 From: i_love_moon at xxx.com (hay fever) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 07:09:45 GMT Subject: Sinister: we might as well all stay in our rooms until we die Message-ID: <19990719070946.5042.qmail@hotmail.com> SINISTERS Genevieve Wesley wrote: c)Where can I hear all those songs people sometimes talk about, such as:Rhoda, Wrong Girl, Winter Pooksie,The Lonlieness Of The Middle Distance Runner, Lord Anthony. (I think thats it) well it's not that easy. people seem to sit on them like if they were exposed to light they would melt and be ruined forever. but i bet that a lot of the listies have these songs on tapes, mds or cdrs in their bedrooms. i have calculated that these tracks; - Family Tree (have only been heard in dublin if my memory is right) - Hurley's Got A Dream (or Hurley's Having Dreams, demo) - Landslide (not on the bbc coverage of bowlie, but on audiences) - London Has Let Me Down (i got this from a demo tape) - The Loneliness Of A Middle Distance Runner (live, demo and radio) - Lord Anthony (there are a few really nice audience recordings) - Paperboat (bbc camper sand has a really nice version of this one) - Pocketbook Angel (i only have this one on demo tape aswell) - Rhoda (also only on demo but i might be live version of this one) - Tigermilk (instrumental track, written for TBWTAS, great quality) - Winter Wooskie (bbc bowlie recording and from the dublin show) - The Wrong Girl/Love (few really good recordings of this one around) Kevan Cooke wrote: i was wondering if anyone had a complete list of all the covers that b&s have ever performed live. i searched the archives, honest, but couldn't find a complete list. hmmm i have localized these tracks to be covers but i am not sure, - Turn Turn Turn (the Byrds) - The Kids Are Alright (the Who) - In A Nutshell (Orange Juice) - What Goes On (Beatles) - Poupee de Cire, Poupee de Son (France Gall) i think also the following are covers, but please don't laugh if they aren't: - Matchstick Men and Matchstick Cats and Dogs - To Be A Jew On Christmas wouldn't be suprised if you would add any Felt track to the list, OK. Johan HAYFEVER DOT NET BAKUSHI AT HAYFEVER DOT NET ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Mon Jul 19 10:22:13 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:22:13 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: there's no portrait in the room Message-ID: Hiya,kids! I must be the only Sinisterine not owning a digital copy yet.Should I feel totally ashamed? I promise I will get one when my financial state improves , which it will be when my ex-landlord pays me back my deposit.There is some excuse too long and intimate to expose here, anyway, about why my Tigermilk (with the Radio 1 session on the B-side)tape is one of my most precious belongings and I will keep to listen to it no matter which glossy new CD comes to augmentate my collection.My tape won't go to therapy because of feeling ignored, I am a good mother, and if it stays overnight at Bill Wyman's mansion it will be conveniently told off. Probably nobody else in the list is so no-fashionable as to watch Channel 4 documentaries,so please don't take my comments too seriously. The landlord's topic has to be taken seriously, however.My current one does not allow me to put any poster on my bedroom's wall, allegedly because of the very recent painting, Blue Tack spoiling it...etc.But I need my TWATTYBUS one in front of me when going to bed.Chris Geddes is my spiritual leader, specially after seeing him getting rid of papparazzis and similar individuals during Bowlie days, and his ace DJ sessions.If I was a devote Iranian muslim, would I be allowed to put some Ayatollah Jomeini's portrait or not? I am sure I could appeal to some Human Rights court in that case, or my landlady would be too scared of being prosecuted in Rushdie's fashion and would smooth her rules. I am afraid 999 troubled teenagers and ex-teenagers in cardies are not frightening enough. xxx Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gareth.watson at xxx.uk Mon Jul 19 11:03:16 1999 From: gareth.watson at xxx.uk (Gareth Watson) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 11:03:16 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <578140045D30D211800A00A0C9E0207909B43D@ORION> unsubscribe sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Mon Jul 19 12:40:08 1999 From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Michael=20Jones?=) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 07:40:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Dad's Barmy Message-ID: <19990719114009.15789.rocketmail@web114.yahoomail.com> ... 70s BBC sit-com pilot set in a post-war English coastal town in which Ian Lavender struggles to look after his increasingly senile father, played with great sensitivity by Arthur Lowe. The tape's been long wiped of course, along with that Beatles/Stones episode of "Juke Box Jury" and all the Apollo 11 coverage. It must've been mad working at the Beeb in those days... "quick, we need a tape for the 2:30 Dulux/Novotel Handicap Stakes from Chepstow" - "Oh, use the one marked 'Nixon resignation speech' - just don't leave it running, there's some rare Andy Pandy footage at the end". Those of us who weren't damp in anticipation on Friday night at the PoCaff were certainly moist in other ways, as 3 times as many folks than was truly comfortable crammed into the basement to witness live pop action. As perspiration dripped from the walls, Tim H and his Visitor cohorts ripped through seven tales of Devonian desire and longing, sounding for all the world like they'd be written the week before, rather than a decade ago. The Lucksmiths were a blast of pine-scented air conditioning through a sodden cellar; on borrowed gear, they stole our hearts. Stopped wincing ? Good. Tapes (or MDs) are available of the above, but only to folks who can answer the following simple question: how did Stevie Trousers come by his nickname ? Please note that I haven't yet thought of a sufficiently abstruse answer to this, so you may all win. Or all lose. E-mail me privately with the subject heading 'Milk Pistol'. Blake E. Carrington wrote: > and struan does > unzip his fly in the beginning of expectations, a tape glitch i thought to > be a tape glitch that isn't that at all. It sounds too high-pitched to be a trouser-fly, unless those famous silver pants are of unusually flimsy construction in the groinal region. I'd venture it's a dress-zipper - the girl's getting ready for school after all. This is all rather reminiscent of when the Beatles bores got their hands on remastered Fab Four CDs in the late 80s - "ooh, you can hear Ringo's drum pedal squeak", "you can hear John's face screw up in disgust as Paul sings 'Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da'". More of it, I say. Not too thrilled with the vinyl "Tigermilk" though - my copy sounds a bit sibilant (stylus could be on the way out I guess), is pressed noticeably off-centre and comes in a slim cardboard sleeve with no appreciable spine. I was looking forward to owning the LP-as-artefact almost as much as the CD-as-music with this re-issue. Ho-hum. This week's edition of ThaiFacts has been postponed. To make way for the 3:20 Doris Lessing Steeplechase from Doncaster. Mike. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From untitled at xxx.com Mon Jul 19 13:44:43 1999 From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:44:43 -0400 Subject: Sinister: RE: Message from Internet Message-ID: <199907190844_MC2-7D7B-4512@compuserve.com> Gareth Watson wrote: >>unsubscribe sinister Oh how I laughed ALSO There is a member of Sinister called "A Memon", I'm dyslectic and so I thought the name read "A Melon", I laughed at that too when I released my mistake. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cchaffin at xxx.org Mon Jul 19 13:55:02 1999 From: cchaffin at xxx.org (Christa Chaffinch) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:55:02 -0400 Subject: Sinister: a little of this, a little of that... Message-ID: SOOOOO, is there going to be any sort of a meet-up before or after the Looper show this Thursday in DC? i do believe that there should be, so let's get on the ball, people! someone come up with a brilliant idea and post it to the list and the rest of us can follow along with the plan blindly. hmm. ok, i saw the BLAIR witch project this weekend. it was scary! i left the theater trembling. its not like a cheesy effects-oriented horror movie where you have to suspend belief for the course of the film. it is all very realistic and frightening. and the way the three kids in it react to the situation is just great... exactly what i would do if i was being hunted in the woods.... smoke cigarettes, scream and curse, and cry a lot. during the last hour the theater felt so tense, i don't think anyone was even breathing. go watch it and then try to walk past a wooded area in the dark. I DARE YA! even the *big strong man* i went to see it with uttered a few strangled sounds during the scary parts, and afterwards said it was very very spooky!! i listened to Tigermilk all the way to the beach and back this weekend. it was loud and went along perfectly with the scenery....which was a lot of fields of corn, produce stands and blue-blue skies. and boats on the chesapeake bay, and some cows and a vineyard and other pastoral things. my favorite has always been I Don't Love Anyone but i also have join La Resistance and tell you that i love Electric Renaissance. does that rhyme? its pure muffled-droney goodness! lesleyjo mentioned a girl she knew guzzling malt liquor in a corn field. you know what? i have done that too. i think i was about 16 at the time. it was this big party thrown by *college-aged boys* at this old farm house. it was fun, but i soon learned that a variety of small and itchy bugs live in corn!! did you know this?!!! i was doing the hoochie koochie dance - itching everywhere!!! - for a week afterwards! UGH! i believe i should have turned this into an Urban Legend to keep other young and impressionable girls from going to parties with older boys in corn fields... and inevitably drinking too much cheap bad beer. hee hee hee. lesleyjo, speaking of, is coming to DC on THIS VERY WEDNESDAY! this is why we have to have some sort of a meet-up... to welcome the out of town sinisterine and show her what a cool group of studs and studettes the DC crew is. YEA! enough about me; tell me about you, christa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Paulfie at xxx.uk Mon Jul 19 14:44:14 1999 From: Paulfie at xxx.uk (Paul Field) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:44:14 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Plastered in Paris Message-ID: <8183113A18D5D111B27F00600851444C7BCB59@OASIS_NT07> Chris Jones wrote: There must be a mistake, how did Tigermilk fail to make the top 10? Well, I've just been to Virgin Megastore to buy the Red House Painters' retrospective, and according to them it's straight in at number 4. I dunno if they just have their own chart though. Well, I'm at work, ½ the days gone and so far I have not done a single second's worth of work. I got in and I couldn't log on, so I had to spend the morning on the internet machine 'researching'. During my oh-so-important research, I noticed I've got 2 list-crush votes! Has somebody made a mistake? I hardly ever post! Oh well, it made me happy. Thank you whoever you are. I shall now bore you all with a tale from my weekend....A very sinister Norwegian girl, and a mildly sinister English boy (me) actually met each other.....in Paris! How cool is that! We met out the back of Notre Dame. Only I was waiting outside the front. She had the sense to realise I might be a bit dim and thankfully looked there. So, I'm wearing my study at stow t-shirt for recognition, and she's wearing B&S badges. This proved fairly dangerous as I had to keep looking at girls chests to see if they were wearing badges. And I got a fair few nasty stares from hard looking Parisian blokes. So I put on my shades to disguise my leering, and looked ohsocool. Praps. Then we got really drunk together and shagged on the bank of the Seine. We never really - we did neither of them. 'Twas all very innocent. We just had a lovely time and ate nice food and drank nice wine and got very sweaty. Easy tiger - it was bloody warm ok, and we walked miles with backpacks on. I won't bother going into detail as, although it was fun, it wouldn't be fun to read. Oh, Summer Teeth/Being there......get both if you can. If not, I agree with Steve C. - go for Being There. Awesome. I saw them at Shepherds Bush after they released Being There, and they were the most aggressive, nasty band I've ever seen (as in towards the audience, not their music). Then I saw them there again after they released Summer Teeth, and they were really nice and the singer (name escapes me) apologised. Not to me personally of course. I'm sure I had something interesting to say. Nope. OK, I'll now get back to my lurking and see if it musters up some more votes... (tell me who you are!) Klem fra Paul (who now knows a bit of Norwegian, and is hoping this gets through as he un-subbed for a bit) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Iangstl at xxx.com Mon Jul 19 15:43:37 1999 From: Iangstl at xxx.com (Iangstl at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:43:37 EDT Subject: Sinister: there's no portrait in the room Message-ID: Arantxa worried.... << But I need my TWATTYBUS one in front of me when going to bed.Chris Geddes is my spiritual leader, specially after seeing him getting rid of papparazzis and similar individuals during Bowlie days, and his ace DJ sessions. >> Get it foam core mounted, at a copy shop probably, then it's all stiff like and you can prop it up anywhere you like. You will ruin his backside as it will be attached to something quite hard, but he will stay hard and on the ready for you always and forever. hints from dawn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Mon Jul 19 17:07:37 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:07:37 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bingley Bongley Beep! Message-ID: <002f01bed200$d4562180$eecfb0c2@default> I just noticed that someone (sanity in question, probably) has given me a list crush vote! I'm deeply honoured, so please, let me know who it was, huh? Well, I've had a VERY bad week. Saturday night, 2 of my friends were assaulted on the last bus. Last night, there was a murder next door to me. It's a place called Cairntoul Court in Cumbernauld, it'll probably be on the news. I've spent the entire morning fighting off the vultures known as the press. I didn't know the guy, I'd never even met him, but it was still quite a shock to be woken by CID asking if I heard anything. I'm sorry for posting this, but I had to get it off my chest, and yet again I'm glad for the relative anonyminity of the net. Tigermilk rocks ass! I bought it as soon as I could (Tuesday) and along with the Godspeed YBE EP, it's been my soundtrack to the week. My fave song is Expectations, or maybe She's Losing It, or... or... Nah, they're all great! I would like to add my voice in defence of Electronic Renessaince (good spelling not included), it may be different from the rest of their output, but it's not a bad song because of that. Just relax and enjoy the beauty :) Star Wars was fantastic, roll on Episode 2! Very mixed post this time round, wasn't it? Still, I'll try to do better next time. Thanks for listening (reading, whatever.) -- Jason Andreas -- The Romantic Scotsman -- -- supporting Jubilee 2000 - Drop The Debt-- -- I'll be there for you, unless you need money -- { jasonandreas at breathemail.net } -- contact me ... oh yes! -- -- Spammers WILL be shot... -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Mon Jul 19 17:31:48 1999 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Brian Pennington (Mick McMick at work)) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:31:48 -0400 Subject: Sinister: B&S for the Insane Completist References: <19990719070946.5042.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <379352F4.7AAAD2C8@ohiou.edu> Hiya, Boy do I love all this tracking down obscure info. There's likely something wrong with me, isn't there? hay fever wrote: > well it's not that easy. people seem to sit on them like if they were > exposed to light they would melt and be ruined forever. but i bet that > a lot of the listies have these songs on tapes, mds or cdrs in their > bedrooms. i have calculated that these tracks; You know, I see where you're coming from, but don't forget that a lot of us have made umpteen copies of these for people. It gets so you have 10 or 12 tapes you have to make people and you feel guilty that each day goes by where you don't get one made. So the prospect of making more becomes quite unpleasant and stressful unless you get something in return. > - Family Tree (have only been heard in dublin if my memory is right) Oooh, that's a new one to me! > - Hurley's Got A Dream (or Hurley's Having Dreams, demo) > - Pocketbook Angel (i only have this one on demo tape aswell) > - London Has Let Me Down (i got this from a demo tape) None of these are, to my knowledge, B&S songs. They were all written & recorded by Stuart M before the formation of the band. It should be noted, however, that supposedly a number of B&S came (come?) from Stuart M. demos, and that all three of these are gems, especially the summery Pocketbook Angel. They all sound pretty much like B&S too, except with double-tracked vocals and other 4-track-sounding things. I think that everyone who has a tape of Stuart's demos aside fromt these 3 songs has taken a vow of secrecy, because there are reportedly several of them (3 or 4 I think) and that only 3 tracks have surfaced is a sort of reverse miracle, I think. I made a post about this some time ago, and I think I had been able to squeeze some of the titles out of people. One of the tapes I think was called Lisa Helps the Blind, which could mean it was the same material as was played at the in-store which someone mentioned (Andy Dean, was it?) being at. Also there is a possible connection with the song "Beautiful," ("They let Lisa go blind, let Lisa go blind, let Lisa go bli-i-ind" =). Er, yes, and possibly one of the songs entitled "Perfection As a Hipster," although I'm not sure of the truth to that. Haven't heard the song either, sad to say. > - The Loneliness Of A Middle Distance Runner (live, demo and radio) My money says this is the A-side of the next single. Besides the fact that it's brilliant, Stuart M. posted and I believe he said somethign on the order of the best song they'd written yet. It's been written for some time, but the band can't get a version they like recorded. > - Lord Anthony (there are a few really nice audience recordings) > - Paperboat (bbc camper sand has a really nice version of this one) Also listed as being on the next ep and Stuart M. mentioned the band had just recorded each in two posts to the list some time ago. > - Rhoda (also only on demo but i might be live version of this one) If anyone has a live version I'd like to hear it. From what I've been told, it was written between Tigermilk & Sinister, recorded with Sinister, became an outtake (much like Modern Rock Song was for a time) and likely will remain so. Decent song, beautiful lyrics, shoddy 9th gen copies of it =) There was also a mention of this once having been a possibility of being included on one or another the 3 Summer EPs but I guess it never happened. > - Tigermilk (instrumental track, written for TBWTAS, great quality) Was this really written for TWATTYBUS? I remember some people had heard it live. If anyone has this I'd really *really* like to hear it. I have lots of stuff to trade too... > - Landslide > - Winter Wooskie (bbc bowlie recording and from the dublin show) Mentioned possibly as being on the next album in an interview with Stuart David (see or search the archives for Winter Woofkie). Other song titles mentioned: Marx and Engels, I Fought In A War, Once Upon A Weekend, Wake Her Up. > - The Wrong Girl/Love (few really good recordings of this one around) Also featured on a session. I wonder if it might not get a proper release. Far and away my favorite Stevie song. I recall hearing that all the songs on the next album would be Stuart M. songs, which cast a doubt on the likelihood it'll be on the next album. Then again, I haven't had time to listen to my Bowlie tape yet, isn't Winter Wooskie/Woofkie a Stuart D. song, and isn't Landslide an Isobel one? > hmmm i have localized these tracks to be covers but i am not sure, > > - Turn Turn Turn (the Byrds) > - The Kids Are Alright (the Who) > - In A Nutshell (Orange Juice) > - What Goes On (Beatles) > - Poupee de Cire, Poupee de Son (France Gall) Yep, but also there are: An R.E.M. song whose name escapes me "Shadows Breaking Over My Head," by the Left Banke "Reel Around the Fountain" by the Smiths a song from Beck's first album "Mirror" by the Velvet Underground & Nico and a song or two that escape me... > wouldn't be suprised if you would add any Felt track to the list, Haven't heard of it yet, but I do have a recording of Stuart David reading Ink Polaroids overtop of "A Preacher in New England," which I once thought was the instrumental Tigermilk. I have now witnessed the joy that is the search engine. For the curious, here's my post on other silly trainspotting minutiae: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/cgi-local/listsearch.cgi?query=lisa+helps+the+blind&Search.x=41&Search.y=16 see my post, and also if you're curious Andy Dean's post on seeing the two Stuarts open for the Pastels in '95. Sorry to those of you who don't find this stuff fascinating like me. You know, though, anything I could do would be put to shame by New Order/Factory fanatics. There's even a New Order gig-ography with every known concert and its respective setlist, info, comments. Some obsessive B&S needs to start doing one for our favorite Glaswegians, we're already way behind... Mick McMick at work +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From macarthur at xxx.com Mon Jul 19 17:27:32 1999 From: macarthur at xxx.com (Graham MacArthur) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:27:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: bored bored bored Message-ID: Darling listfiends, I went charidee shopping today, I bought a kid's mighty morphin' power rangers t-shirt which looks just super against my british (read: pasty) skin. Oh yeah. James said: > friends. The reaction was weird beyond degree. Have you ever had the > feeling that your person you're talking to is actually talking to > someone else, y'know, they talk back to you, but it doesn't follow on > from what you've just said. Did this happen to anyone else? Oh yes. I dress a little differently to the majority of my friends I know from school, not that I dress particularly well, but occasionally they get all hot under the collar and start saying: "Why? why dress like that? you don't have to. You look stupid. It's like you don't *want* to fit in" "well I like the way I dress" "but why! why!" I'm going to a party on wednesday, I think. It's a bond party, so I'm guessing I'll have to try and make a bond-girl outfit, though I thought it would probably be more interesting to go in a suit and slick my hair back like Roger Moore. I was pleased to hear that garbage are recording the new Bond theme music, not because I'm a particular fan, but it's interesting to see someone without such a typically velvety-swoon doing their bit, as Shirlee will. I went to my grandma's and she gave me a bottle of Babysham grandmas I left, saying "It's only 6% dear, don't worry, you're only young once, eh?". I was quaking in my boots, I can tell you. why did you let my kitten die? Erica x "Now you know what my lips think, I'll write on your arms Make the words look like pictures And thats just the start of it all" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com Mon Jul 19 17:25:39 1999 From: Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com (Jim Schmidt) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 99 09:25:39 MST Subject: Sinister: blair witch/eyes wide Message-ID: <9906199324.AA932401869@mail.newtimes.com> someone asked: American listees who have seen either "Eyes Wide Shut" and "Blair Witch Project" (can't wait to see both of 'em). ok,ok...i have to say that i haven't been so overly disappointed by two seemingly exciting films in a long time. my advise is: don't buy the hype. save your money for another copy of tigermilk. "blair witch" has a great premise and is overall well-done, but it failed the ultimate test for me...it WASN'T scary!!! maybe if i was ten years old...or afraid of the dark. c'mon, i love to make videos and shoot film as much as the next fledgling director, but i felt the characters really started to lose credibility when they were running around with their cameras turned on. if something is chasing you and you're scared to death, screw the heavy equipment--either drop it or use it as a weapon. film the ghoul or live? hmmm, tough question. but alas this would've destroyed the premise... plus the people spent an awful large amount of time sitting around moping instead of getting the hell out. great idea, not scary. maybe it's also because i'm just not scared of ghosts... midnight crackheads and painfully high rent frighten me more. now on to the masterpiece itself--"eyes wide shut". inexcusably excrutiatingly dull. if people talked this slow, nothing would ever be communicated. this film was obviously made by a man. it's pretty much just a titty movie with skinny model girls running around tempting tom cruise. i did have a good time laughing at the "rituals" that occur, but please, the underground sex scenes are vanilla at best. ho hum. everyone's white and rich and boring. this film might have had something interesting to say 20 years ago or if it had been made by david lynch. ok, that's all...if you wanna see something more suspenseful, waste your money on "arlington rd"...if you wanna see something at least a bit more provocative, check out "summer of sam"...if you wanna see a tit flick, buy tigermilk. i've got the beginnings of a stomach illness today and i'm blaming "eyes wide shut" (perhaps the really annoying sparse piano music which was supposed to signify ???)...i really want my 7 bucks and 3 hours back please. sign me.bitter. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geoff at xxx.uk Mon Jul 19 17:57:00 1999 From: geoff at xxx.uk (geoff) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:57:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I've been called a ponce. Message-ID: God bless you all, little sinisterines, 'Uncle Geoff,' they softly implore, their upturned little faces shining with excitement and wonder, 'Why don't you ever post to The List?' 'Kids, kids, kids,' I reply, 'I don't have time. And besides, I'm always too drunk.' 'Tell us another story, then.' OK, ok, this one's called: 'How I got my wallet nicked and nearly got my head kicked in that time in the George Tavern'. I'm working on a snappier title, but that's your ronson, for the nonce. It starts as a fairly normal thursday ends. Cradling what seems like my 7th pint of the black stuff in unshaking hands, I am seated at what appears at first glance to be an average table in an average pub. Look closer. There is tension in the air. The mixture of fey kids with university educations and football hooligans with chips on shoulders is an explosive one. At that very moment a spark is released, and, dear brother, dear sister, this is very fucking dry tinder. 'Geoff,' -an inquiring tone, but with the venom and hatred of 20 odd years of underachievement behind it - 'why are you smoking that cigarette . . . like a *POOF*?' I check my internal Walk / Don't Walk light. It is green. The signalman is probably out the back thowing up perfect pints of guinness into straight sided glasses. Or dead down the drains. I take a deep breath. 'I'm not gay,' I started, (better to be safe than sorry) 'But if I *was*, would you have a problem with that?' '*I* would!' pipes up neanderthal #2. This one is *really* evil looking. This one has scars on his face from when he got a teargas canister right in the mush during the World Cup riots in France. 'I think they're fucking disgusting!' 'I don't believe this!' I countered. 'Next you'll be telling be you're racists an' all' That, dear reader, is exactly what they were about to tell me. Apparently, what my problem is, is that like all these poncy bloody student cunts they fucking teach 'em to be queer don't they? Born with a silver spoon in the gob, the likes of me have got it all, and we still don't have the decency to hate the fucking blacks. The most effective treatment, I am told, is a fucking good kicking. Taking the underground back to my bolt-hole, I pondered the wisdom of my actions. I had stood up for what I believed in, and lost my wallet in the process. I had singularly failed to reduce the number of homophobic / racist assholes at large, yet seriously increased the number of people who want to kick my head in. Bigottry had prevailed, and I hadn't. What's a wooly-minded liberal boy to do? I love each and every one of you with a passion that scorches my very soul, geoff x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SSharp5210 at xxx.com Mon Jul 19 18:03:14 1999 From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:03:14 EDT Subject: Sinister: Holiday perils.Part 456 Message-ID: <822b454.24c4b452@aol.com> Hi kids.(Poptarts?..How passe!) I'm depserately bored.My last week of holidays yet I'm sitting watching Ready,Steady Cook.Jesus!! Anyway,semi-funny story.I made my Yahoo chat i.d Belle missing Sebastian.So someone obviously read my profile and thought Belle/Steve..hmm.I read my mail this morning and find "You've been invited to join Playthings--The un-listed club where transexualls can be themselves" I believe I need a new i'd. Steve.Catatonic but fighting to maintain a sunny disposition.xxxxx.(I do still love you all) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stray4f at xxx.net Tue Jul 20 03:17:05 1999 From: stray4f at xxx.net (===) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:17:05 -0400 Subject: Sinister: B&S for the Insane Completist Message-ID: <199907191716.NAA150484@pimout4-int.prodigy.net> Actually, "What goes on" is a Velvet Underground song, rather than a Beatles song. Plenty of other bands have covered it regularly, from the Feelies to Screaming Trees to Luna to Pavement. >Stuart D. song, and isn't Landslide an Isobel one? >> hmmm i have localized these tracks to be covers but i am not sure, >> >> - Turn Turn Turn (the Byrds) >> - The Kids Are Alright (the Who) >> - In A Nutshell (Orange Juice) >> - What Goes On (Beatles) >> - Poupee de Cire, Poupee de Son (France Gall) > > Yep, but also there are: > >An R.E.M. song whose name escapes me >"Shadows Breaking Over My Head," by the Left Banke >"Reel Around the Fountain" by the Smiths +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From troyh at xxx.com Mon Jul 19 18:23:45 1999 From: troyh at xxx.com (Troy Hakala (Exchange)) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:23:45 -0700 Subject: Sinister: blair witch/eyes wide Message-ID: Have to disagree. Eyes Wide Shut is the best movie made in the last 2 years. Slow talking and the "sparse piano music"? Ever seen 2001? It's called "effect" - not all movies are meant to keep you on the edge of your seat. And you must have been compelled by the "cult" and what that was all about. And 2001 was also hated by critics in its day, yet those same critics now call it one of the best movies ever made. Kubrick is (was) a great moviemaker. It's unfair to dismiss his movie as a "tit flick". Now, if you wanna talk about really bad, overhyped movies, check out The Thin Red Line (I survived it last night). It makes Saving Private Ryan look interesting. Moral of the story: war is bad. Provocative? For a good war movie, see Full Metal Jacket (also Kubrick). troyhakala sent with Office E-mail on Windows 2000 -----Original Message----- From: Jim Schmidt [mailto:Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com] Sent: Monday, July 19, 1999 9:26 AM To: sinister at Majordomo.net Subject: Sinister: blair witch/eyes wide someone asked: American listees who have seen either "Eyes Wide Shut" and "Blair Witch Project" (can't wait to see both of 'em). ok,ok...i have to say that i haven't been so overly disappointed by two seemingly exciting films in a long time. my advise is: don't buy the hype. save your money for another copy of tigermilk. "blair witch" has a great premise and is overall well-done, but it failed the ultimate test for me...it WASN'T scary!!! maybe if i was ten years old...or afraid of the dark. c'mon, i love to make videos and shoot film as much as the next fledgling director, but i felt the characters really started to lose credibility when they were running around with their cameras turned on. if something is chasing you and you're scared to death, screw the heavy equipment--either drop it or use it as a weapon. film the ghoul or live? hmmm, tough question. but alas this would've destroyed the premise... plus the people spent an awful large amount of time sitting around moping instead of getting the hell out. great idea, not scary. maybe it's also because i'm just not scared of ghosts... midnight crackheads and painfully high rent frighten me more. now on to the masterpiece itself--"eyes wide shut". inexcusably excrutiatingly dull. if people talked this slow, nothing would ever be communicated. this film was obviously made by a man. it's pretty much just a titty movie with skinny model girls running around tempting tom cruise. i did have a good time laughing at the "rituals" that occur, but please, the underground sex scenes are vanilla at best. ho hum. everyone's white and rich and boring. this film might have had something interesting to say 20 years ago or if it had been made by david lynch. ok, that's all...if you wanna see something more suspenseful, waste your money on "arlington rd"...if you wanna see something at least a bit more provocative, check out "summer of sam"...if you wanna see a tit flick, buy tigermilk. i've got the beginnings of a stomach illness today and i'm blaming "eyes wide shut" (perhaps the really annoying sparse piano music which was supposed to signify ???)...i really want my 7 bucks and 3 hours back please. sign me.bitter. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From glawler at xxx.ie Mon Jul 19 18:56:13 1999 From: glawler at xxx.ie (Gary Lawler) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:56:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: My throat hurts In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990718203917.007a3610@mail.u-net.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990719185613.007b5910@gpo.iol.ie> At 20:39 18/07/99 +0100, you wrote: >Oh well, never mind. As you may or may not know, Tigermilk went >into the UK album charts this weekend at number 13, and there was >me thinking it'd beat the number 12 slot held by it's predecessor. No. > >We saw REM last night, they were so BORING. Wow, I saw them at Landsdowne Road the other day and I thought they were superb . . . would have been nice to have Stereolab supporting them over here instead of the Divine Comedy, but I suppose we can't have everything (as a side note, I could have sworn I saw a Study at Stow shirt somewhere . . . seeing as how there were quite a few band shirts about, I began thinking that maybe I should have worn my own after a while. Maybe I'll wear it at Blur - a concert I am *not* looking forward to). Oh, and I'm another one of those who hasn't got their copy of Tigermilk yet *cringe* - I'll have to pick it up at the weekend (and once I've heard it, I'll probably start retroactively enjoying the Dublin gig again - I hardly knew any of the songs when I was there at the time :-/). And finally, Star Wars: Ep 1 is great fun. Oh, yes. -- Gary Lawler ---------------- ICQ: 11115268 AIM: seclite369 ---------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i_love_moon at xxx.com Mon Jul 19 19:13:33 1999 From: i_love_moon at xxx.com (hay fever) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:13:33 GMT Subject: Sinister: we migt as well collect belle tapes until we die Message-ID: <19990719181334.90286.qmail@hotmail.com> ok sorry sinisters, it was not my meaning to upset people by send my previous email. all i tried to do is write down my answer to one question. so my answer was not completely right - oooh no, i feel soooo bad about myself... > > - Family Tree (have only been heard in dublin if my memory is right) > >Oooh, that's a new one to me! well maybe the song isn't called Family Tree, the boy that copied the show to me listed the song as Family Tree, if now the song is really called Hail To All Tweefuckers, then ok. > > - Hurley's Got A Dream (or Hurley's Having Dreams, demo) > > - Pocketbook Angel (i only have this one on demo tape aswell) > > - London Has Let Me Down (i got this from a demo tape) > >None of these are, to my knowledge, B&S songs. They were all >written & recorded by Stuart M before the formation of the band. Hmm so the line is quite thin isn't it? Would you call Beautiful a Belle track of a Lisa Helps The Blind track? So if Belle all the sudden decided to throw Hurley's Got A Dream on a B-side, then woops, it's a Belle and Sebastian song? >Actually, "What goes on" is a Velvet Underground song, rather than a > >Beatles song. Plenty of other bands have covered it regularly, from >the >Feelies to Screaming Trees to Luna to Pavement. Yeah you are actually right. Boo me. >I recall hearing that all the songs on the next album would be >Stuart M. >songs, which cast a doubt on the likelihood it'll be on >the next album. >Then again, I haven't had time to listen to my >Bowlie tape yet, isn't >Winter Wooskie/Woofkie a Stuart D. song, and >isn't Landslide an Isobel >one? yeah yeah but in an interview i read they would do records specially for different members, but i don't recalling the next would be Murdochs. but you're probably right. fj�rilspussar, Johan OPERATIONAL THINKING AT WORK ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Iangstl at xxx.com Mon Jul 19 19:15:53 1999 From: Iangstl at xxx.com (Iangstl at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:15:53 EDT Subject: Sinister: blair witch/eyes wide Message-ID: SinListers, I'd have to disagree completely with the Eyes Wide Shut review. After watching almost his whole catalogue last week, I would have to say this is one of Kubrick's best. Primary colors have not been used so well since Goddard's Weekend. The suspense builds slow and the story is more one of infidelity than sexual obsession. I liked the music; it added flavor. If you like Kubrick, you will see many scenic views that can only be called Kubrickian. I can't recall which critic said it, but it was said that if you expect to see a movie that will require a cold shower after, forget it, the movie is a cold shower. Kubrick was always about the possibilities beyond our actions. He didn't fail me here. European viewers will also have the opportunity to see it without the flawed digital editing required by the stodgy MPAA. His decision to obscure the sex scenes does play nicely into the concept of lust unfulfilled. I just want an unedited version, a bottle of scotch, and the time to dissolve with this master's final piece. Summer of Sam was a good watch but left me with not much to contemplate. Southpark makes me laugh still. Tigermilk is as sweet as I'd expected. It hasn't left my cd player once. The rough of Tom Waits and the tumble of B&S; what more could a girl want? dawn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marcusomond at xxx.com Mon Jul 19 19:20:54 1999 From: marcusomond at xxx.com (Marcus Omond) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 11:20:54 PDT Subject: Sinister: heaven knows i'm miserable now Message-ID: <19990719182055.91869.qmail@hotmail.com> hello all you folk, thanks to everyone who said they enjoyed my last e-mail. it made me feel warm. i'm afraid that not so much interesting has happened since then, but here goes. on thursday i saw godspeed with natasha at the union chapel, and it was a beautifully eerie experience, leaving me filled with a bubbling sensation of wonder (even though we left half way through the half hour encore). when i was queueing (yes, indeed) for the men's room (no queue for the ladies) i saw someone in a stow t-shirt, so i said 'i like the shirt' and he went 'um... thanks. were you at bowlie?' to which i replied 'no. are you sinister?' and he gave me an odd look and went off to hide in his corner. i also saw one of my brother's dealers/ friends, who was very stoned and made disparaging remarks about tigermilk - 'tigerwank' i think he called it. which was nasty. on friday i saw the lovely geoff again - seeing him is the high point of any day. he is SO gorgeous - hopefully some photos of the london picnic are being scanned to go on-site soon. geoff's the gorgeous one hugging matt... ah yes, matt... as you may have read in my last post, matt poked me in the chest just after i had been accosted by the gay man at tottenham court road tube. imagine my horror, then, when THE NEXT DAY he is on the same platform at the same time at baker's street tube... which has about ninety million platforms. at first he hid his face, like the criminal stalker he may well be, and pretended he hadn't noticed me. but i had... i know you're watching me, matt... and i'm not scared... i would, however, be scared if my stalker wasn't the affable matt but was in fact one of geoff's friends from friday. i can't remember his name, but when geoff said he'd seen a performance poet the friend said 'i hope you fucking glassed him, mate'. but no! our hero admitted to his hard-man friends that he thought the poet (opening for the lucksmiths) had been 'actually quite good'. he's gorgeous, open-minded, cultured, and he's got a good job. what more could anyone want? i haven't seen the tony blair project, eyes wide shut or star-bores (not what i called it - i overheard someone describe it thus in a bookshop), so i can't really say anything topical or interesting. sorry. anyway, must go back to dreaming my life away, love to all, and a snog for geoff - will you be my list-crush? Marcus XXX ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From CMcQuain at xxx.org Mon Jul 19 20:03:22 1999 From: CMcQuain at xxx.org (McQuain, Chris) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:03:22 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Eyes Wide/Marine Research/Beautiful Portland, OR Message-ID: I absolutely have to agree with Dawn who wrote: >>>>I'd have to disagree completely with the Eyes Wide Shut review. After watching almost his whole catalogue last week, I would have to say this is one of Kubrick's best. Primary colors have not been used so well since Goddard's Weekend. The suspense builds slow and the story is more one of infidelity than sexual obsession. I liked the music; it added flavor. If you like Kubrick, you will see many scenic views that can only be called Kubrickian. I can't recall which critic said it, but it was said that if you expect to see a movie that will require a cold shower after, forget it, the movie is a cold shower<<<<<< A girl who loves Kubrick, actually knows Godard's Weekend, and into Belle & S? I normally play for the Pink Team, but Dawn- will you marry me? Yes, the use of colors, yes the lovely, leisurely pace of the film (it savors each moment, however excruciating, beautiful, or both), yes to Tom and Nicole whipping each other around emotionally (ESPECIALLY Nicole's disturbing confessions) and NOT consummating, and YES YES to a final line to equal Alex's "I was 'cured', all right" from Clockwork Orange. Eyes Wide Shut is a good kick in the teeth to anybody expecting a Tom Cruise movie, or Basic Instinct-style 'erotics'. All of it is an identifiably STANLEY KUBRICK FILM! HURRAH! The bright, piercing light coming in through every window and crevice, the cold, harshly observant camera leading and/or following the characters down stark corridors, the stately grace, it's all too perfect. I'd say it's a truly great film, and I'd also say that 95% of the audience (in America, at least) will be there for all the wrong reasons, and will not like the film at all. But I loved it. I've been reading Kubrick's biography, and it turns out he was heavily influenced (and good friends with) famed photographer (who committed suicide in the 1970s) Diane Arbus- in fact, the "Twins" scenes from The Shining seem directly inspired by a particular Arbus photograph of twins. The close-ups of the menacing masked characters in Eyes Wide Shut also seemed, to me, a very Arbus moment. I'll probably be seeing Marine Research twice later today- once at an in-store promo appearance at local uber-indie record shop Ozone, and then later at their show here (opening for The Make-Up). Does anybody have any info on the Marine Research discography? As far as I know, they just have the "Queen B" 7 inch. Any info greatly appreciated! If any Sinisterines ever visit Portland, OR, I would highly recommend popping into Ozone, and also across the street to Powell's Books, the largest independent book store on the West Coast and full of goodies- everything from their 300 copies of Catcher in the Rye to the first-edition Iris Murdochs to most any kind of 'zine or (literary) porn you can imagine. Anything you want, they're bound to have- we're talking massive floor space with shelves to the ceiling. I'm so proud of mah town sometahmes, ah could just burst, ah do declare! Beckoning with Open Arms and Open Fields of Eucalyptus Westward Bound to Portland- -Two or Three Things I Know about Chris (and I know Dawn knows where this little moniker comes from....) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From viable_itch at xxx.com Mon Jul 19 21:49:41 1999 From: viable_itch at xxx.com (Christopher Mayo) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:49:41 PDT Subject: Sinister: out of the nursery with bad news Message-ID: <19990719204942.39308.qmail@hotmail.com> Well, I've now endured what seemed like months in the nursery, only to get my voice in time to announce that looper are playing in toronto tonight and I can't go. Some foolish promoter decided that it would be much more appropriate if looper was a 19+ show, so all of the unfortunate looper-babies like myself (a fresh-faced lad of 18) have nothing to do but sit home and sulk. humph. It feels a little odd having a voice now. It's as though I've been listening to an intimate conversation between a group of people I don't know, only to suddenly reveal to them that I've been eavesdropping for the last two weeks. Oh well, I suppose you're used to it. What a silly tangent... I feel like I should introduce myself, but It seems somehow inappropriate; you probably couldn't venture much further away from B&S content. But I will attempt to introduce myself by relating my life to B&S (an absurdly tottering stretch at best). I will be attending the university of toronto next year to study music, where I will attempt, and likely fail, to write music as beautiful and marvelous as belle and sebastain (it seemed more worthy of typing it out that time, for some reason). I work at ONTARIO PLACE, a vile little hole of an amusement park aimed at freely-urinating six year olds. I sell ice cream, a terrible job. But when my supervisor isn't looking, I slip on my hadphones and listen to tigermilk, which, incidently, has become my favourite B&S album. Well before I bore all the rest of you to tears, I'll ask a couple quick questions. - Is there anyone on the list in the toronto area? I've had trouble finding anyone else in the city who like's b&s, and all of my friends hate them with a passion (a little disconcerting). ...well actually only one question, but It's an important one. It's a little upsetting when even your best friends hate your favourite band and make fun of you for having such wussy taste in music. ah-well... goodnight from a sleepyhead ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Mon Jul 19 22:10:46 1999 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:10:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Pedal Pushers. Arf arf. In-Reply-To: <001c01bed12e$ed455f80$2911020a@rebelstrange> References: <001c01bed12e$ed455f80$2911020a@rebelstrange> Message-ID: Hey there, lookin' smoooth tonight laydeez and gents, now what can I do yer for? You have to IMAGINE that I'm typing in a cockney barrow boy style of course, else that sentence lost all intended dramatic meaning. Some day in the future, I bet computers will read out emails to us, and we can choose their accents. I bet that will happen. LJM: > my life is >turning into some fucked up soap opera. i feel abandoned, strung along and >despised, yet i'm still sexually frustrated, go figure. *sigh* I wish my life was interesting enough to be a soap opera too. I don't know any "bulldykes", the only gay gals I know are happily going out with each other, or being...well, boringly well-adjusted most of the time. Apart from the few who think they're being like, RADICAL by snogging openly on the dancing-floor. They just get shouted at for getting in the way of the drunken fools who insist on jumping around to "ohh fucking wow I love this song...what is it again?" LJM tambien pero con un subjecto differente: >all the ppl that hate the gentle waves, is it because they dont' like her >voice? Yes. And her face. And her personality. And her clothes. And her hair. And she smells bad. She's a crap dancer too. And her songwriting "talent". Har! Throw her off the bridge!! She wore PEDAL PUSHERS! If clothes reflect personality then Isobel is a 12yr old townie trendy who got to shop in "New Look" for the first time with 5 pounds her momma gave her to "get her out of those fucking mothercare pinafores". All the people who like Gentle Waves, is it because you want to have sex with Isobel? Gee wizz Martha. I got this brilliant thing for my pooter, called "windowblinds", which change the appearance of all your programs, so even if you're bimbling along on a horrible smelly beige PC instead of a spankin' new blue iMac, all your windows programs look like they're Mac applications. Its like a skin for all you applications. They're cool! www.stardock.com I think was where I gottem. I'm such a geek. And I'm tired. I'll be in London on Monday and for all of next week. Does anyone fancy a pint or few or the odd vodka and lime? byebye, Sarah xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Lana622 at xxx.com Mon Jul 19 22:15:19 1999 From: Lana622 at xxx.com (Lana622 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:15:19 EDT Subject: Sinister: You're such a pretty thing Message-ID: <10b5efbd.24c4ef67@aol.com> Has anyone else noticed that the opening three cords of "I could be Dreaming" are the exact same as the starting cords in "Change" by The Lightning Seeds? Just something I picked up while listening to Tigermilk for the 8th time today (I just got it, that's my excuse, what's yours?) Put your foot down and drive, you silly thing, Lana --Who is quite bothered by the line "the only things I'll read are faces" in "a summer wasting". I quite like to read books in the summer. PPS. A special welcome to our new Toronto boy, but I quite disagree with the bad review of Ontario Place. I went there when I was 8 and had a kick-ass time at the Lego displays. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MOUSER at xxx.net Mon Jul 19 22:25:58 1999 From: MOUSER at xxx.net (Shawn Krueger) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:25:58 -0400 Subject: Sinister: B&S for the Insane Completist Message-ID: <004301bed22d$4b9b9000$427e9cd1@default> Don't forget "Matchstick Men..." from the Manchester Town Hall: 28th Dec 97, snippets of "Its Hard to Be A Jew On Christmas" from DC: 30th Oct 98 and snippets of "More Than A Feeling" from Boston 21 Sept 98. These should all be easy to find. just my two cents....Shawn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Mon Jul 19 22:36:08 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:36:08 -0400 Subject: Sinister: T Bags Message-ID: <199907191737_MC2-7D8C-F667@compuserve.com> Hi! Belle & Sebastian trivial artefect collectors desparate for Mary Jo postcards can now lust after... Tigermilk carrier bags! (Cover pic on one side & Mary Jo "nostrils" shot on the reverse.) Local indie shops seem to have some each. I too have been struggling to find "T" acronyms. I couldn't even type a t upside down, so moved to anagrams instead. However hard I try, though, I always seem to end up with one consonant too many. So, kids, waste your life improving these in order to make the perfect TIGERMILK anagram: GRIM LIKE T T GERM KILT TRIM LIKE G M LIKE GRIT KITE GIRL M K GIRL TIME Best one wins the prize...........of knowing you're the best! Bigger Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jthorniley at xxx.net Mon Jul 19 22:36:13 1999 From: jthorniley at xxx.net (James Thorniley) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:36:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I could be eating/drinking/generally being merry. Message-ID: <37939A4D.470466@hedgehog.freehosting.net> But I'm not. Even though I try, really I do. James Thorniley wrote. Then he realised his mistake. I do have to apologise for apologising that I sent an unsubscribe to the list, which it turns out, I did not. I did laugh a bit, I have to say. Things aren't going great for me, so I'd better avoid whinging too much. I did plenty of whinging in my last post. Just to let you know, my email system seems to have sorted itself out, resulting in reems of messages from the last week. Anyhow, I'd like to forget that, I hope you can forgive me. Seems though, that most of the people on this list are not having such a great time either. I'm not going to complain anymore now I know that I guy with a murder next door is among my audience :-( On a lighter note, school finishes for me next week. Hurrah, no more working on pointless stuff that I'm just going to forget anyway. Now for what I really would have liked to put in my "I've just got my voice, so..." post (actually, it's lucky this wasn't my first post, it's not that interesting, don't feel compelled to read on): I've just got my voice, so I thought I'd say a bit about me, because I'm egocentric like that. I'm doing my GSCEs down here in sunny England, I have a bad hair do, and a problem finding anyone who seems similar to me. It's not that I don't have any friends, it's just that none of them are really like me. I guess that's why I joined this list. I know that none of my freinds like B&S, so that's what makes me a freak really. So I thought I'd talk to some people who are also freaks. B&S started for me when my brother bought "If Your Feeling Sinister". I forget when. My brother and I play an unhealthy amount of computer games. Because most computer games have bad sound tracks, my brother leaves a load of his CDs round the computer, because most games will take the music off any CD you put in. I listened to Sinister as backround to games as a result, and I liked it. My favourites being "Me and the major" and "Get me away from here I'm dying". One day the CD disappeared from the vicinity of the computer when we went on holiday and we took it along to listen to in the car. When we got back, the CD never went back to the computer. The next I heard of B&S was Modern Rock song playing loudly from my brother's speaker system. I took very little notice of this, so I didn't listen to B&S until TBWTAS, which turned up unannounced by the computer, where it remains today. I made a recording of some of the tracks. The next I heard of B&S was the funny CD with a straight copy of a Tigermilk vinyl and the radio 1 recordings as bonus tracks. I made a tape of this, and after listening to it virtually non-stop, I though F*** IT, and went out and bought a copy of IYFS on CD. I promptly downloaded the guitar chords from "Sinister" and worked out the bassline to "Get me away from here I'm dying". Which is basically it, until now. Apart from the Tigermilk re-release, which I bought during a school trip to Oxford last week. Phew. That's what I call long. -- James Thorniley "We know all men are not created equal" -- Harper Lee, "To Kill a Mockingbird" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ParisStarz at xxx.com Mon Jul 19 23:38:25 1999 From: ParisStarz at xxx.com (ParisStarz at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:38:25 EDT Subject: Sinister: Brassed Off Message-ID: <7518af46.24c502e1@aol.com> hi, Mick Cooke, trumpet player with the Amphetameanies played to his biggest audience last weekend, at T In The Park. The Amphetameanies were the only Scottish band playing on the main stage at T In The Park, Scotland's biggest festival. Mick also plays trumpet in B&S. Glasgow newspaper The Evening Times ran a 2 page feature on the band, which I'll pass on text and pics if anyones interested. Amphetameanies formed a few years ago, and have released 2 singles: Last Night and Around The World in 5 1/2 minutes. A third single is due out soon. You can give them a listen at www.redfoot.force9.co.uk/meanies. My cousin Jenny Divers plays sax for The Amphetameanies (and has been in the studio with B&S playing on a couple of tracks from the forthcoming album) so I'm biased, but if you can, buy their records and go see them play. Delbert +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From BrnToEnd at xxx.com Mon Jul 19 23:42:11 1999 From: BrnToEnd at xxx.com (BrnToEnd at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:42:11 EDT Subject: Sinister: blair witch/eyes wide Message-ID: Dear Kiddies, I loved Eyes Wide shut. Its a kubrick classic! anyways I dont understand why so much people hate it. I'm having kubrick mania now again I just watched Clockwork Orange twice in a row. I do want to see Blair Witch. I'll probaly pee my pants though. I saw Summer Of sam also a great film. Bye Bye kiddies -Damon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jason.Ridgway at xxx.au Mon Jul 19 23:46:13 1999 From: Jason.Ridgway at xxx.au (Jason.Ridgway at xxx.au) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 08:46:13 +1000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Hello to you all! Just thought I'd de-lurk myself to say how much fun everyone seemed to have at the Up Top bar in Melbourne last Sunday - Sodastream started the evening with an excellent set, including a couple of new songs. Only problem was the amount of people talking instead of listening to the music...nothing against fellow list member Chris! Sleepy Township then came on - mellow, folky, keyboardy - get their CD if you can, it's wonderful. Inbetween bands, DJs were playing French pop old and new. A great night, and hello to fellow sinisterians who were there and all my Belle and Sebastian friends who read this post. Jason. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.net Tue Jul 20 02:21:33 1999 From: rebelstrange at xxx.net (Lesley J Miller) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:21:33 -0700 Subject: Sinister: now my heart is full Message-ID: <002901bed24e$3542b9c0$2e11020a@rebelstrange> >Yep, but also there are: >An R.E.M. song whose name escapes me would that happen to be "Dont Go Back to Rockville"?? Stuart played that during the rehearsal in DC, though it wasn't in the show. and i was tickled to death, cos i LOVE old REM. yes i'm gonna be in DC on wednesday night!! we gonna party or what? i can dance now too, so we can dance and everything, and whatever else. yeah. all the pretty girls better watch out. dear blakie, you'll have to fight me off for your marriage proposal! :) *kiss kiss* to alyssa marie, we are Losing It together. that's all for today, except yeah. you all made me laugh today. i went dancing last night so i slept all day, dancing is SOOOO tiring it's unbelievable. i like dancing to madonna best of all. madonna rules. i was sad though that i missed dancing to "ray of light" cos i was too shy to go out there by myself. and i wasn't yet saucy enough to pretend i was making love to the cage bars on the upper level of the dance floor. poor sod i am. and i ended up weepy anyway, by the end of the evening. as usual. i'm getting used to crying evey other night, but now i've said too much....... P!R!O!P!S! to you all. lesleyjo, the techno wunderkind at odds with the world http://www.members.tripod.com/rebelstrange "why take a trip on acid when you can read the Bible?" --PJH SAVE MST3K!!!! http://www.mst3kinfo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fountainhead at xxx.net Tue Jul 20 01:23:37 1999 From: fountainhead at xxx.net (fountainhead) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 01:23:37 +0100 Subject: Sinister: sweetness follows Message-ID: <01db01bed246$49813220$ee3763c3@oemcomputer> i saw rem on saturday and, despite me being seated at the very wrong end of the manchester nynex, it was a great show. stipeys acoustic spot is a sight, and sound, to behold. i only spotted one 'study at stowe' shirt all night. driving up from nottingham was great too. i have a gybe tape that someone made me, and it was wonderful music to listened to as i sped mightily over the pennines. it would be a fine soundtrack to die to, but my brakes are in fine fettle, so there were no such disasters. f. -- fountainhead at earthling.net busy - http://fly.to/balls doing - http://listen.to/chemex nothing - http://fly.to/fountain -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MWaggner at xxx.com Tue Jul 20 02:00:47 1999 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 21:00:47 EDT Subject: Sinister: Lonely Victorian Mummy Looking To Be Led Astray... Message-ID: What will they think of next? I just got an e-mail via mobile phone from Honey -- who has apparently recovered a bit from the vapours and wants to know if there are any Sinisterines in Galway who would like to get together with Linda and him for a Guinness. If you are and would, write me and I'll put you in touch. --michele +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Tue Jul 20 02:33:53 1999 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 21:33:53 EDT Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V3 #237 Message-ID: <764e6f09.24c52c01@aol.com> My digest #237 would not download. It said file not found. Pete G. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnk at xxx.gr Tue Jul 20 03:29:07 1999 From: johnk at xxx.gr (John Koliopanos) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 05:29:07 +0300 Subject: Sinister: british invasion Message-ID: <3793DEF3.3AB43F97@flash.gr> hiya listees, just a quick note to say that i'll be in the uk from this wednesday (21) until the 2nd of august. along with two ladyfriends, for your information. we will share a flat in london but we're planning on going to some places outside that the first few days: namely, we want to spend this thursday in warwick and nottingham (where we'll have to spend the night . . . any ideas?) and then head off to edinburgh by train and stay there for a couple of days. the thing is, despite the fact we've bought these railpasses (which means we now have to take all those trips, which we really want to do anyway) we've yet to sort out accomodation, esp. in scotland. so, if anyone has a floor or something to offer, it would be greatly appreciated. keep in mind that we're three harmless seventeen year old kids :) by the way, does anyone know how exactly we can get from nottingham to edinburgh by train and how long it'll take us? anyway, see you at the london picnic (s) next week!!! love johnk x x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aloysiousthebull at xxx.com Tue Jul 20 03:34:47 1999 From: aloysiousthebull at xxx.com (Frank-Aloysious Madrid) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:34:47 PDT Subject: Sinister: "Rule #1, NO POOFTERS!!" ..............................News @ 11:00. Message-ID: <19990720023448.27689.qmail@hotmail.com> Sorry to Geoff for having to undergo such terrible victimization. I trust that in a battle of wits you could have taken them all. Thanx also to L.J. for the amusement that comes with each of her entries. By the way L.J., was that you that mentioned Moose. I could be mistaken. Anyways, I love Moose & don't often run into anybody who's even heard of them. They were quite underrated for such amazing music. By the way y'all, I recommend "Rehearsals for Departure" by Damien Jurado (Sub Pop). He writes sad, beautiful, down-to-Earth songs reminiscent of Elliot Smith. I also recently acquired "Mobile Safari" by the Pastels. I don't know what they put in the water in Glasgow, but I could use some over here. I guess I don't have anything left of interest to say, so I'll call it an evening. Keep on truckin' WAIT!!!! I forgot about my new slogan for all of you familiar with dairy industry advertisements.........here goes.....................Got Tigermilk?.........................It couldn't possibly get any worse could it? I shall spare you all of any more of my feeble attempts at humor. Cake and ice cream at my place for all of you (& booze). xo frankie. "I'm only going to ask you all once, WHO WANTS A HUG" P.S. Blair Witch was scary, but unfortunately it is NOT a true story. If you want some insight try www.blairwitch.com. It makes it much more interesting. Cheers _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From guile at xxx.br Tue Jul 20 07:23:50 1999 From: guile at xxx.br (Guilherme Barrella) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 03:23:50 -0300 Subject: Sinister: A Tigermilk Tale Message-ID: <379415EF.969A635@telnet.com.br> Hello Sinisterines, I must announce that I got my digital copy of Tigermilk. But it wasn't easy, as some of you could imagine. I'd say that 99.99% of the brazilians record shops don't have a single clue of who Belle and Sebastian is... But this wasn't the only problem, well, here it goes: A Tigermilk Tale, by Guilherme Barrella When I woke up this morning I just had one thing in my mind: "I have to get my Tigermilk today. I have to!" I went on a Tigermilk search last saturday but nothing was found. "Today is gonna be the day, I can feel it." So I took the tube and went downtown, letting my instincts lead the way. When I got there, it was scary, lots of people everywhere, lots of people selling things on the street, but that's downtown, what can I do? But one thing told me I was on the right direction: there was a guy selling tiny plush tigers. I should've got one but money is short. Anyway, I found a store called Electronic Renaissance and decided to get in. There was a beautiful girl behind the counter, which made the situation very difficult to me, I'm too shy to talk to girls... especially when they're beautiful. "Ok, I have to find Tigermilk by myself", without help. I didn't even know if they had Tigermilk. Well, after searching through the whole shop, through every single cd, I couldn't find anything. To be honest, I found some early New Order albums on sale. Suddenly, another girl entered the shop and asked the ultimate question: "Do you have Tigermilk, by Belle and Sebastian?" I turned around with a hopeful expression in my face. "Yes, you're lucky, this is the last one." My world was over. That blonde bitch. She paid and left, just like that, without any emotion. I followed her. "I'm gonna take that away from her, it belongs to me. Yeah, I'm gonna steal it." But this thought left as fast as it came. "Come on, what am I talking about? Look The State I Am In just because of a record. I can't do that." Well, I kept following her, with no apparent reason though. She got in at the same station I was going to, so I was still behind her. But she was fast, she ran to the train. She ran so much that she didn't realize that something was falling from her purse. "She Is Losing It! She Is Losing It!", I tried to shout but I was voiceless. When I finally got her attention, the train was leaving. But she knew something was missing and the look on her face was priceless. She lose not only the cd package but all her Expectations. I decided to take the next train and if she was smart enough, she would be waiting for me on the next station. You know, I Could Be Dreaming but I thought I saw a topless girl with a tiger on her lap, just near me, on the train. I couldn't believe my eyes so I came closer to her. She wasn't topless but she was holding something. I came even closer and... "Oh, You're Just A Baby..." I said. "Get away from here you pervert!", she shouted. It was my time to get out anyway, so I did. And there she was, waiting for me. She couldn't believe when I gave her cd back. She was very happy that I wasn't like the other people. And guess what? She said that she knew me, we went to the same school, my face was familiar. I couldn't remember of her though. She tried to refresh my memory: "We were at the same class, remember? We Rule The School! You used to say that to me all the time." Oh, I could remember... She was a girl who made me feel miserable for these years. But she changed a lot, well, apparently. "Am I still in love with her? No, I'm not... I don't know what love is since... er... since... she left me." But I thought maybe she deserved another chance, after all now she is listening to Belle and Sebastian, she couldn't be that cold girl I knew. She wasn't surprised with the fact that I Don't Love Anyone. But she doesn't feel guilty thought. She said she could change me. Well, I'm really looking forward to this date. Mary Jo and me are going out next Saturday. My Wandering Days Are Over, that's me being optimistic. Who would tell? That's it for today folks. Take care. Love, Gui (Some people call me Gooey) PS - This was a true story. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kissingdom at xxx.net Tue Jul 20 09:33:03 1999 From: kissingdom at xxx.net (Tony) Date: 20 Jul 99 09:33:03 BST Subject: Sinister: London Listees Message-ID: <19990720083303.9041.qmail@nw173.netaddress.usa.net> If any London listees who like orchestral are looking for things to do this week heres 2: Heist are playing a free show on Tues at the Annexe in Dean Street Spectacle are playing the Rock Garden on Sunday Someone in Cracks on St Martins Lane was playing TBWTAS over the instore PA when I went for coffee there yesterday, I stood there for whole 3mins jigging about before I noticed the concerned looks from the staff and beat a hasty retreat. TC ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TNewth at xxx.com Tue Jul 20 09:45:35 1999 From: TNewth at xxx.com (Newth, Tom) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:45:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: If it rocks, put it on the table. Message-ID: <0743C08C3772D211B8B50008C7A4F3B60298A517@PON-03> Just to throw in my six eggs, the Beatles have a "What Goes On" on Rubber Soul, which is not a patch on the top chugger "What Goes On" on the third VU album. Now as to which one our beloved troubadours have been known to regale us with, I've not a clue, being sadly bereft of all manner of B&S bootlegs. Except the ones which aren't B&S but sound like them. Also I could have sworn I heard them cover "C*nt Tease" by Pussy Galore, but I could have been dreaming. Not such an odd idea, when you think about it - that slightly unusual take on the recycled boy/girl/relationship song... Should we start a petition for songs we want them to cover? Or would it just be annoying? I am most sorry not to partake of the Kubrick thread, being a limey an' all, but whilst never really being thrilled by him, I do find his films endlessly fascinating for all their flaws. Somewhat like Pasolini, if I may make so bold a comparison. But perhaps this is not the place, although I would love to chew the fat about all manner of arty films with TOTTIKAC and others. Is there somewhere you folks go and do this without boring those B&S fans of a less pretentious bent? It may be of interest to you all to know that the new improved Tigermilk sounds revelatory on my (slightly creaky) surround sound system with all sorts of funny background bits coming to the fore. Except Electronic Renaissance which cos of all the phase and delay and stuff just sounds as though there's a sabre-toothed tiger-sized hairball on the stylus. And I for one quite like the fact it has no spine. I have no idea why. I just do. love to you all spoon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gilvan at xxx.br Tue Jul 20 12:22:39 1999 From: gilvan at xxx.br (Gilvan Tessari) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 08:22:39 -0300 Subject: Sinister: Just a Call... Message-ID: <37945BFF.3881CCFB@inf.ufsc.br> Gabiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!! -- Gilvan Tessari gt at reivax.com.br 'immerse your soul in love' +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marcusomond at xxx.com Tue Jul 20 12:41:13 1999 From: marcusomond at xxx.com (Marcus Omond) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 04:41:13 PDT Subject: Sinister: list crush nominations Message-ID: <19990720114114.5080.qmail@hotmail.com> ooh, at least two people have nominated me for the list-crush, with different names... thank you, whoever you are. i'm blushing... :) does anyone know how to turn those suggestions into people we can vote for? because geoff's on the suggestion list, and i think he's REALLY sexy and so i want to vote for him. hopefully i'll get some pictures of him on site soon, and you can all gasp at how pretty he is, as well as witty and charming. ooh, and erica's got lots of votes, but she's gorgeous so she deserves them all. ok, must fly, love Marcus XXX ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stugardiner at xxx.com Tue Jul 20 13:09:47 1999 From: stugardiner at xxx.com (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:09:47 BST Subject: Sinister: Puff the magic dragon Message-ID: <19990720120947.77892.qmail@hotmail.com> Greetings, kiddiewinkles. Firstly, I guess I should apologise to anyone who's been trying to email me recently. My uni email address has been cancelled, now I'm entering the big bad world outside, so I'm stuck with hotmail for now. Which also means I've had to go digestive for a while, but I'll cope somehow... I had a job in a pub once, but as of two days ago I'm unemployed. And my life is a lot better as a result. Of course, I've now got less money than the average watermelon, but never mind. Nice to read that Stevie is, according to the Guardian, "Quiet enough to be one of his own fans, but way too tall". Well I'll disprove the theory that B&S fans are short by coming down to London on Thursday for a picnic. And anyone who's working that day will be expected to turn up at the pub for the evening. I'll probably be the one walking round with a pronounced limp; I did a 26 mile sponsored walk up the mountains in South Wales on Saturday, and as a result I've now got feet on my blisters. The next morning, my feet were killing me... (they tried to shoot me) All these arguments (again!) about ER; just ask yourself, would you like it if it was by another band? I know I always get super-critical of B&S, just because I expect such a ridiculously high standard. Recently I've even been complaining about the fact that "I Don't Love Anyone" is one note too short. (No really, it is. The last note of the song just isn't there...) Big Stu (Feeling left out because he seems to be the only person on the list who hasn't even got anyone to have a crush on at the moment) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From untitled at xxx.com Tue Jul 20 17:02:39 1999 From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:02:39 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Sorry it's so big Message-ID: <199907201202_MC2-7DA8-1684@compuserve.com> Simon Warner said: >>Would you still need anyone to send in reviews? I meant to get around to >>replying straight away, but... (insert excuse here) ... well it's funny you should say this because a few minutes ago I finished uploading the review html files, sadly the bulletin page has too many bugs to go up now but it'll be ready in a few days. This means that the scrolling text at the bottom of the page should be ignored, it'll take you no where except a 'sorry, this page doesn't exist' type of thing. I was going to announce this as a finished site today but bits of it unexpectedly, er, don't work. anyway, yes by all means send in a review. Also, the review submission pages do not work, so you'll all have to send in reviews by your own email editor. But the 'read a review' pages do work, so as soon as you send them in, I can put them up. God this is exciting. I've got a big grin... As I said I was going to announce this to Sinister today, and I was going to explain how to use it. So a few weeks ago (when I had the idea) I wrote a 'how to submit a review' document. The only thing is that it's three A4 pages long and I'm not sure sending that to the Mailing List would be that popular. But it is an important document, so if I get back emails saying 'Oh, that's okay Rob, I don't mind receiving a 3 page document because it'll mean that by reading it I can send in my cool reviews", then I'll have no problems with sending it to Sinister. Please feel the need to write reviews Oh, I suppose I'd better give you the URL address: http://members.tripod.co.uk/wpwe Rob +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jafrey1 at xxx.edu Tue Jul 20 18:21:32 1999 From: jafrey1 at xxx.edu (Juliebean) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:21:32 -0500 Subject: Sinister: sleeyhead...wake up! Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19990720122132.006b6b94@students.wisc.edu> i can just picture sleepyhead out in toronto... he's got his tigermilk piped directly into his brian via head phones and is floating in an aurally induced state of bliss while children run amok at his feet screaming and peeing all over the place. sleepyhead doesn't pay any attention to them though cause he's got Lisa and MaryJo and a suckiling lil tiger juliebean +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Tue Jul 20 18:07:02 1999 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksAndAJill) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:07:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Goodbye Yankee Prince... Message-ID: <199907201707.NAA27278@dept.english.upenn.edu> ...the latest tribute single by Elton "Eulogy" John hopefully. (Where were *you* when JFK Jr. was presumed dead?) First, any listees that see the Lucksmiths, could you post some reviews? I'd love to hear about what's going on with our beloved Aussie threesome. I hear they really packed the Poetry Cafe in London...the word was "sweat" by those who attended. Is that dope enough? Indeed. Secondly, I don't think I'm going to make it for the Looper show this Wednesday here in Philly. Can't be bothered. Don't have the album, don't like it enough to go or buy it, and plus there are tons of other shows to see on a shoestring budget...Ladybug Transistor/Beulah/Apples in Stereo at Nick's on Thursday, the DJ Franco-powered "Foxy Cat" dance night at Silk City on Friday, and the Magnetic Fields at the Black Cat in DC on Saturday. Whew! If any of y'all want to say hey, I'll be there with my girlfriend Adela, she'll be the tall blond one who could pass for Isobel's more glamorous sister (you'd never catch her wearing Birkenstocks with socks I'll tell ya that much!), no kiddin'. Thirdly, Big Stu asked if I (well not specifically me but I'll take up the gauntlet) would've liked "ER" done by another band. The answer is yes, esp. if it were New Order. It'd probably have bigger drums, a good Hooky bass lead, and the lyrics would be almost silly enough to be believably sung (and created) by Barney himself. I've gone ahead and declared myself to be Elton John's new lyrical partner, so here's a rough draft. Sorry Bernie, maybe next one. "Goodbye Yankee Prince" (Kim/John) Goodbye Yankee Prince Of Camelot and Editor of _George_ Brother to Caroline And son of Jackie O.-- And John Fitzgerald Kennedy Oh, the press still hounded you Not because you failed the bar But you shared your daddy's name Da da da, dee dee dee and whatever the hell else you want to put in there. Topically, Xavier BXK bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu | www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 It's what kind of hair you have on the inside that counts.--G.S. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ar981611 at xxx.uk Tue Jul 20 18:27:30 1999 From: ar981611 at xxx.uk (Ailsa Ross) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:27:30 +0100 Subject: Sinister: My throat hurts too Message-ID: <3794B182.BA5067F3@student.paisley.ac.uk> It's not fair is it? You finally get someone in your life that you are quite reasonably happy to be with and then he goes and gets glandular fever on you. So I'm a bit ill. And I missed Mogwai and GYBE (and made Grandpa Cook's Mogwai-loving grandson miss Mogwai as he hung pathetically about the pub for an hour and a half wondering why I hadn't showed up). And I get to feel very silly for deciding to end the platonicness (platonicity? platonisation?) of our friendship for a whole two days before he becomes medically advised not to kiss anyone for six weeks, so we are just pretty much as we were before really and the point of him being a boyfriend as opposed to a bestest friend who happens to be a bloke is kind of lost a bit. Hmmm. Anyway that'll be why I haven't been around these parts much recently. (the sore throat I contracted, presumably from the two days of being un-platonic). And why I have been a bit slack on the tape delivery front. They are nearly all out now so sorry to you all, and I will buy a pint for each and every one of the 27 of you who have had to wait so patiently if you are ever in Glasgow. Unless you all arrive at the same time. I'm getting to go to my first London picnic. On July 31st. I get to go on a plane and everything. I'm not going to Heathrow, in case someone chops me up and puts me in a suitcase in a car park (apologies to all non-Brits who probably haven't a clue about what I'm on about). I'm a bit scared my doctor may put me on anti-biotics so I don't get glandular fever (I just have a sore throat at the moment), as I intend to drink loads and loads and loads whilst in London and I could get a bit tipsy . Well. more tipsy than usual. Shit. I shouldn't threaten drunken-ness, as I have still to sort my accommodation. Ooh, accommodation. Chalets. All TimHopkin's Panties. We've got nearly all of our original chalet re-united now. Is anyone still looking for a chalet to share with (or people to share a chalet with, if you are going to be as pedantic as I am being whilst reading over this)? I might know someone who can help you. (Privately, PLEASE!!!) I have no interest in seeing Star Wars whatsoever. I could have gone on Sunday, but I stayed in to watch Paul Lawrie being great at golf and American commentators being huffy about it. I bet the golf was more exciting too. I hate golf and I was dead excited about it. But talking of films, as you all were, can I just say that whoever mentioned "tit flicks", that sounds painful. Does anyone want to give me a Tigermilk carrier bag? Paisley doesn't have a local indie shop. Though there is a dodgy=looking old-man's drinking establishment displaying posters for Tigermilk AND Starfighter Pilot just along the road from me. And did anyone win one of those nice Mary Jo T-shirts at a Tigermilk launch night? The bloke next to me won one, well he would have done if he had realised and gone up to get it before they gave it away to the next ticket holder. I got some Tigermilk posters. They are very good for having lightsaber fights with on dance floors. Calumn Shearer has a Tigermilk poster autographed by Chris Geddes and some Art School bouncers and some random people from the bar (including me, but I was unsurprisingly drunk so it's probably illegible). He's supposed to be doing a competition for it but that'd involve de-lurking. Go on, Cal, you know you want to :) Chris G dances like a big girl to his own records you know. Much better than that scaredy cat Struan who was seen legging it from Maryhill at a great speed at the sound of one of his records. Anyone coming to see Camera Obscura on Saturday, 13th Note? They're ace, and feature that nice Mr Colburn on drumming duties. I'll be there, and I promise not to give anyone glandular fever. Alasdair will be there too to regale all and sundry with tales of his famous grandpa. Do we want to go to the pub before the gig? I think so. Anyone? Oh, that's more than enough for me. Go and do something else. Oh, you probably already have. Oh well. Ailsa xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jafrey1 at xxx.edu Tue Jul 20 18:46:11 1999 From: jafrey1 at xxx.edu (Juliebean) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:46:11 -0500 Subject: Sinister: muzik rocks me like a hurricane Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19990720124611.006b6b94@students.wisc.edu> has anyone heard "the aluminum band"? i think they are from chicago. they are SO good. plano (by said group) is the first tape since TM i have left in the car player for weeks and not got sick of. his voice is strong and almost a tiny bit loungy but so yummy and there are xylophones and horns in the background. any other bis fans out there? i was pretty pleased with social dancing. i wonder how big they are in scotland??? also, i just got momus' "little red song book" and it is perversly wonderful, unlike Arb Strap's "Philophobia" which is perversly creepy. just thought i'd share that with my favorite lil monkeys juliebean +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koogy at xxx.uk Tue Jul 20 18:45:22 1999 From: koogy at xxx.uk (andrew dean) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:45:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: off the end of the Analometer... References: <199907191814.MAA27288@turtle.esosoft.net> Message-ID: <3794B5B2.F09321CD@clara.co.uk> cover versions? we got um... the gentle waves covered 'kinky love' there was a whole gig full of serge covers there was also that time they supplied the music for evie sands i seem to recall a mary chain cover being played once upon a time stevie did the guitar bit from the start of 'circle sky' in glasgow and a bunch of stuff was played to the queue at bowlie pamela h: tape went off this morning. andy make that 'yesterday morning'... oh um, 1:20. so much for an early night. oh, tomorrow (wednesday) at 4 in the morning there's a program on channel 4 (england) about people who believe the moon landings were faked. dave the moon-man anyone? (i watched the last one of these which was the conspiracy theory one - apparently we are being mind-controlled by someone or other using microwave guns. they also plant invisible bugging devices in our clothes whilst we sleep) the ants seem to be back. my own fault for leaving irn bru cans lying around. still, i see the spider is doing his best to keep down the numbers. advert in the guardian last week for a unix administrator for the astrophysics department of edinburgh university, send applications to one dr paul mitchell. who'd want to work for such a foul-mouthed curmudgeon is beyond me... pah! (home.clara.net/koogy/photos/) let's all live on the moon and drink each other's piss... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.edu Tue Jul 20 18:55:20 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.edu (bfundak at xxx.edu) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:55:20 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Blair Witch and why I am sad Message-ID: <852567B4.00627515.00@sp27.bgsu.edu> I haven't been keeping up with the list as much as I should be, but my second modem blew up and it has really cut down on my online time. In the interim I have discovered something wonderful called real life. But I still love all of you on the sinister list and with the release of Tigermilk last week, you've all been in my thoughts. Anyway, Blair Witch. I have seen it and I will make this blanket statement right now: The Blair Witch Project is THE movie of the summer. I don't want to blow anything for anyone, but as I watched the film, I was slowly sucked in and by the end I was so frightened I couldn't get rid of the anxious feeling I had for at least two hours. It even went so far as to ruin my dinner that night. I simply couldn't eat after watching that movie. I even tried listening to Tigermilk in an attempt to get my bearings and be sure of the world around me, but to no avail. So long story short, you must see it. Now to my sadness. I am still in love with the same girl I have been in love with all summer, but a combination of different fears have kept me at bay. My friends tell me how good we look together, and I agree with them, but I fear that they are telling the wrong person. Anyway, I got this great idea and was wondering what you romantic types thought about this. At my school there is a huge stadium. the really cool thing is that you can go out to the stadium whenever you feel like it and just hang out. It's kind of cool, because even though there is a major highway nearby, no one bothers you and no one cares that you go out there. Here's the plan. I have a very needy friend who always has to hang out with the girl I am in love with, and she has gone so far as to try and figure how much time is being spent with her by other people. And because she is always around I always feel this wierd pressure that I would be breaking some unspoken rule by pursuing my friend romantically. That all ends next Friday, when our timekeeping friend will be moving to Nebraska on a permanent basis, leaving me and Liz alone for a week. This is what I want to do...(keeping in mind that the road to hell is paved with good intentions) I want to walk out to the stadium with Liz and just hang out and talk and tell her again how I feel and then kiss her under the stars, since you can see them when you are in the stadium. It's cheesy, I know, but do you think it would work? Let me know. Go see Blair Witch. NOW. Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aloysiousthebull at xxx.com Tue Jul 20 19:02:04 1999 From: aloysiousthebull at xxx.com (Frank-Aloysious Madrid) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:02:04 PDT Subject: Sinister: SMILE STUEY!!!! Message-ID: <19990720180205.74342.qmail@hotmail.com> I finally picked up my pictures from the photo shop. I procrastinated about developing them, even though I've been so excited about seeing 'em. It is one of two rolls of film I took at "This Ain't No Picnic" w/Sonic Youth & Looper etc. The ones I took of the main stage are terrible, you need a magnifying glass to see anyone. BUT, there are two photos that make this all worth while. These would be the ones I took with Stuart David & his lovely spouse Karn. They turned out kinda funny b/c I look funny and Stuart shut his eyes in one & turned his head in the other. Karn looks darling of course!! I look like a tubby dork in both. I swear I'm kinda cute in person. Anyways, maybe I will send one to mummy Honey. By the way, Stuart is wearing that blasted t-shirt of his. I wonder if maybe he owns 7 of them for every day of the week? Oh well, I'm off to a stupid baseball game my brother is forcing me to go to, I hate baseball. I wish you all a lovely, lovely Tuesday aftrenoon. Luv, frankie. "..now we're photogenic you know, we don't stand a chance.." _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Snowinsumr at xxx.com Tue Jul 20 19:09:11 1999 From: Snowinsumr at xxx.com (Snowinsumr at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:09:11 EDT Subject: Sinister: commitment is a ten letter word. Message-ID: dear sleepy-eyed dreamers... today maeris and i are trying to decide if we should brave the sunlight...as we both hate it so...and also because i have acquired a taste for sergio mendez and the brazillian 66 (thank you thom)...and yesterday when i went vinyl shopping at the local st vincent de paul...i found two of their albums...two claudine longet albums...some herb alpert & the tijuana brass, eydie gorme, ed ames, petula clark and the carpenters...so we've been relaxing all morning in our room listening to these...sprawled out...deciding how we will get maeris across the ocean if we ever decide to move to england...i hate the thought of putting him in a pet carrier in the first place...but knowing that he'd be locked in the bottom of a plane for all that time...it sends shivers down my spine... i haven't been out much lately...as i believe that the state of human kind is tragically overrated...it's very sad to me that people are so involved in worrying about what other people think...which leads them to bad-talk other people...especially their friends...rather than being honest...i find it all rather disheartening...and cuddling with maeris all afternoon while listening to claudine longet and looper is far more precious to me than some cheap conversation while drinking cheap liquor... i suppose that my ever-dropping faith in human kind was also cemented when i arrived home to detroit from chicago- (i traveled to see looper...i stood front row and cried during the whole thing...silent tears...and danced a bit...karn smiled at me outside before the show...so from that point on i was in a bit of shock anyway...i was so moved by their chicago performance that i arrived to the detroit show, bought my looper t-shirt (as they had been out of my size at the chicago show) and left before the opening band...knowing i couldn't handle seeing them again...as it's just too close to home...and i know that at least one person knows exactly what i mean...) sorry, slight intermission there, back to my story= so i arrived back home to find that five of my little friends (including my best friend, timothy) had been attacked by a gang in detroit...one of them, a girl no bigger than me and sweet as apple pie, was left with blood coming out of her ear, a broken jaw that had to be wired shut, teeth chipped to all hell and a concussion...not to mention all the other cuts and bruises on her body...i'll never understand it...i truly never will...and the worst part is that it happened about 100 feet from our friends house...and the gang members all live four houses down...but to prosecute would to be putting all of my friend's lives at stake...sad, really...the injustice of it all... i'm sorry this letter is so choppy but i've been in a pretty emotionally clouded state of mind these last few days...I've never done this kind of thing but if I kill all those gang members now, who's going to miss them? shy hugs meganelise +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Tue Jul 20 19:38:45 1999 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Brian Pennington (Mick McMick)) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:38:45 -0400 Subject: Sinister: She's a Carioca Message-ID: <3794C235.228D281B@ohiou.edu> Afternoon All, I'm feeling more than a bit ill at the moment. Ailsa you're not the only one. But me, I'm having some sort of allergic reaction to something in the air. I have fun stuff like an upset stomach, coughing, asthmatic wheezing, my sinuses ache, you know, all that good stuff. I'm trying to keep myself from collapsing or leaving work early by listening to the Field Mice and Slowdive. It's worked so far... Anyway, enough about my petty problems. Meganelise mentioned Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66, which is something you all ought to pursue avidly. I've got a "Best of" which is lovely. My favorite song is a goergeous piano-laden instrumental by Jobim called, you guessed it, She's a Carioca. Imagine combining a jazz pianist and a samba guitar player & rhythm section and you have it. Also, there's an amusing article on Dave the Moonman-style hypothesizing on Wired.com at . Perhaps it will complement or replace the documentary Andy Dean mentioned. And lastly, with all this talk of Mary Joe/Tigermilk paraphenalia I'm growing jealous. I got a Tigermilk postcard, but I doubt we'll get much more this way. Will they ever be available on the website? Awww, please? Mick McMick at work +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From magnetic13 at xxx.com Tue Jul 20 20:37:45 1999 From: magnetic13 at xxx.com (teri vlassopoulos) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:37:45 PDT Subject: Sinister: some notes Message-ID: <19990720193745.88925.qmail@hotmail.com> good good afternoon my luvs, i don't know if anyone has yet posted about the toronto looper show last night so i'll gossip about it... just because i realized that i *do* have email access from work (sometimes) and i want to take advantage of it since i'm bored of filing. anyway. toronto was one of the cursed cities on the belle and sebastian tour, there were plenty of people eager to finally lay their eyes on anything related to the band.. you could tell by the number of flashbulbs that were going off as soon as they started playing. i was guilty of it too, snap snapping away.. ohhh,they were *wonderful* - the screens showing those charming films, the new song about Y2K and we were all marvelling at stuart david's smooth as silk voice. he sounded better live than on the record, which is not usually the case with live performances.. but the big juicy story of the night was when Wee Karn proved that she knows exactly how to keep the audience in line.. some obnoxious photographer (he must have been from a newspaper or something..) continued taking pictures with his big flash even after stuart repeatedly told the audience that the flashes were distracting. Finally Karn stepped away from her position behind the turntables, marched up to him, attempted to take the camera from his hands and ordered him to take off the flash. teehee. Some people cheered and the photographer looked slightly embarassed. Too bad she didn't rip out his film.. so yes, the show was extremely lovely despite the fact i was completely tired. (pssst..i know someone who has a bootleg of the show, and it's not me :) christopher who asked about belleandsebastian fans in toronto needs not feel alone - there were at least 4 of us last night. and, we must have another picnic sometime soon.. one with slightly different locations and times. maybe in august? and definitely in september when debbie returns to toronto and martin and his friends visit canada. oh gee, people who work with me are realizing that i'm really not doing any work at all.. gah, i must go back to my filing ways.. teri, who can't decide if she wants to capitalize her sentences ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gabi77 at xxx.br Tue Jul 20 21:44:39 1999 From: gabi77 at xxx.br (Gabriela Sampaio) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:44:39 -0300 Subject: Sinister: Fox from Ipanema goes to Greenland Message-ID: <01BED2D7.903D7160@ch22m36.sol.com.br> Dear Listees... It's been almost one month since Arantxa posting about the relation between music and weather and it was only a couple of days ago that I realised that she had even mentioned my name. I'm sorry for not answering it at the time, again I hadn't been doing my homework and reading all your lovely e-mails.Just as her, I had been waiting for an inspiring topic to write to you. Now it seems that I have several, hehe, or at least it's just my opinion, but anyway, I'm not going to write long e-mails and I'm going to post them in parts. First of all, Belle and Sebastian sound as great in the Tropics as they sound in Glasgow, Sydney or Toronto. It doesn't matter if I'm in the middle of a traffic jam in São Paulo or at the Ipanema beach. Their music takes me away (and I bet the same works for you!) from the reality I am and all its grimness and flaws and brings me back to somewhere on my mind. My favourite place. It's hard to describe how it is, like there's no translation for it. It's in my "own" language. The smell of certain types of food and perfumes, some stories and films, places in my city and music help me getting there. And Belle&Sebby are part of it. I do believe that the weather has influence on music. Most of the people here are into "happy" songs. And Brazil is known abroad as the land of samba, Carnival and football. But as usual, a few poor guys like me and probably all my fellow brazilian listees don't feel like we actually fit in this "happinness". Hehehe... Maybe it's just because we can't dance at all? LOL No... In my case I guess it's because even though I LOVE the sun and it's vital for my photosynthesis deep inside me it's always cloudy and raining. And not that it's bad. It's just like that. And I'm not sad, I'm quite a happy and smiling girl. I feel at ease with this melancholy. I feel at home and I've found it, melancholy, smut and lyricism apart from a bunch of loonies from this lovely list all in B&S. Maybe it's because I was born in the rainiest month of the year in Brazil: March. Waters of March. The rain was my lullaby. One of the things that struck me when I was in Ireland last year was the colour of the sky. So grey that it looked like led. And there was Innisfree under that sky and Celtic crosses and ruins and gingers...awww... lovely! Don't you just love the sound of thunder? It's still sends shivers down my spine and I like to be all cosy watching the rain fall, drinking tea and reading... ;)) I know I did an awful bit of digression Arantxa but I hope you understand my point of view. Of course I have no clue what is Debenham but that doesn't matter. There'll be always a nice sinisterine willing to help a tropical brother/sister , right? If "My funny valentine" doesn't work for those sunny days at your dad and you desperately need something more melancholic, why don't you try some bossa nova (Desafinado is on my mind now...)? Well... there it is! I hope you all got what I mean... xxx Gabi ICQ# 8042374 "Only the shallow know themselves" Oscar Wilde +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SSharp5210 at xxx.com Tue Jul 20 22:49:48 1999 From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:49:48 EDT Subject: Sinister: CD Now. Message-ID: Hi popetts. You know CDnow the buying music over the 'net place?.Well,they have a thing where if you like an album ye can check what else they think you would like.Try Tigermilk and it suggests "The Simpsons sing the blues"..Is that not the sweetest thing? Steve.Full of good intentions.xxx p.s To the poor,deluded divine chap/chapette who list-crushed me.Cheers! it made my day.(Showing how empty my life is) :) Showing how empty +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jimgrund at xxx.fr Tue Jul 20 23:15:18 1999 From: jimgrund at xxx.fr (Jan Imgrund) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 00:15:18 +0200 Subject: Sinister: tigermilk and panties Message-ID: <199907202216.AAA12198@front7.grolier.fr> hello. A premiere: B&S content in one of my posts! I promise I won't do it again.. But it is not very original B&S content, just the fact that I have bought Tigermilk! Who would have thought. I was one of those people who had a digital first time, so to say, having restrained from asking anyone for a noisy tape copy.. I am one of those who likes to postpone purchases of good books or records for a long time, knowing that the pleasure of not-having and phantasizing will always be greater than the pleasure of having and knowing... is that a strange behaviour? I don't know. At least it's behaviour that can save you money. At the moment I am not buying the Godspeed etc! and the Bonnie Prince Billy albums, and I think they are worth it. But back to Tigermilk. This is so good! Incredible! The sound! The lyrics! The melodies! I think it totally blows up your standards out of proportion and you cannot listen to music from people who are just good musicians and not geniouses, and, as everyone knows, geniouses are in short-supply... Even my beloved IYFS sounds a little flat in comparison. And also my B&S-resistant flatmate is in love with "expectations", especially after I told her there is the line "lifesize models of the Velvet Underground in clay" in it... This has surely been discussed on the list already, but could one of you experts make a list of the quotes and references in Tigermilk? as i know 2 (Hal Hartley quote in I Could Be Dreaming, Felt quote "the world is as soft as lace" in I Don't Love Anyone), the intricate lyrics lead to think that there must be more buried in the trenches. On the subject of Old Tom Morris' Panties (hey, why not rename the British Open like this ;), Ailsa wrote: >> Is anyone still looking for a chalet to share with (or people to share a chalet with, if you are going to be as pedantic as I am being whilst reading over this)? I might know someone who can help you. (Privately, PLEASE!!!) << that person would be me; there's now 3 places available in a cosy little chalet, all booked and ready... just say YES! is all you have to do! Or, almost. You'd still have to pay for your place I'm afraid... :) Mail to me or to Ailsa or to both. See you there. Aloha. Jan (in the next issue, soon on your screen: crushes and sleeping outside) The Dark Site of the Moon: http://perso.club-internet.fr/jimgrund/index.html Tindersticks page: http://perso.club-internet.fr/jimgrund/tinderpage/tinder.html To love oneself is the beginning of a lifelong romance. -Oscar Wilde +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk Tue Jul 20 23:50:17 1999 From: pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk (Pamela Hutchinson) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:50:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bowlied over Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From mkl206 at xxx.edu Wed Jul 21 03:36:44 1999 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:36:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: tigermilk, blair witches, defender of the self-rightous Message-ID: hi i've been barely keeping up with sinister as the apartment is so fucking hot that sitting down at the computer is pretty much the last thing i want to do generally. that and i've been addicted to a bandicoot named crash. it's only a prequel to what will happen when unjammer lammy comes out here in the states. i'm soooo ready. so anyway, at work i look at the top selling cds on amazon each week, and low and behold, tigermilk was at 23!!!!!! i nearly fell off my chair. let me say that it was listed above britney spears, which i found fairly impressive. and i can't believe it's at 13 on the uk charts. i know everyone else is so blase, but for a band on an independent label with no major backing and limited radio support, that's really amaziing. i'm so inundated with music industry shit all day, it's nice to realize that that many people choose the music they want to hear, rather than listen to anything that's playing. sigh. so on to the next rant. i can't understand how anyone could not like the blair witch project. it's totally different from anything else i've seen, it had such a complex story. i mean, i don't usually see a movie and then look up information on it and check the website and watch a false documentary days later. but it's different information. i don't know, it's this amazing complex world, where the parts you don't see are as important as the ones you do, sometimes more so. as for the person who couldn't imagine filming something when you were being attacked, why not? i admit, if something totally weird was happening, wouldn't you want to prove it? what about all those people who film tornados that are waaaay too close. and how exactly are you going to fight something that you can't see or find? in movies we expect people to have the right response rather than the human response. plus it's pretty scary, excrutiating at some points. At 12:03 PM 7/19/99, McQuain, Chris wrote: >A girl who loves Kubrick, actually knows Godard's Weekend, and into Belle & >S? I normally play for the Pink Team, but Dawn- will you marry me? alright, i know i tend to find fault with chris' posts a lot, but this perhaps rubbed me the wrong way. maybe it's because i take shit from boys all day at film school, and we're not talking obvious stuff, more like the let-me-have-my-friend-who-is-a-boy-shoot-the-camera-because-i-have-yet-to-de velop-the-social-skills-to-accept-that-girls-are-human-beings. girls are not immune to good film!!! we don't learn about all bands from our boyfriends and we are capable of choosing movies we want to see without male influence!!! grrrr!!! i'm sure i will come off as something easily dismissed by those who need to hear this most, but my grievences are real and one day i'm going to go postal and hit someone on the head with a camera. this shoudl serve as a warning to everyone i know. so anyway, i don't think i garnered any crush votes, but this was, at least somewhat, related to b&s. xoxo megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu who are magnetic fields? http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ updated 4/26/99 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Wed Jul 21 04:51:42 1999 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:51:42 -0400 Subject: Sinister: bushishi, my morning glory punk rock angel Message-ID: <029d01bed32e$fa490b80$451e05d1@oemcomputer> hey sinful kissmints, i can feel the buzz already - "that jessica girl is back, i wonder what she's been doing all this time?" - although maybe it's just some sort of delirium caused by excessive cleaning and giving away of childhood toys. but i'll share with you anyways, because i'm forever the narcissist and don't mind any sort of kissing. so there are two Very Big and Monumental Things happening in my life right now. the first is my admission to an exclusive (1000 applicants, 75 seats) creative advertising program at a high tech college. i had to write three tests (including a math one, you can't imagine my check-and-recheck paranoia) and sit through an interview with the program director. no doubt my shoes with the reflective bits helped me appear more dynamic and culturally aware than i really am. regardless, i'm now on the way to something that i adore immensely, and my mother is seeing a use for my compulsive magazine consumption. and the second monumental thing? i'm Moving Out! yes kiddies, it's true: jessica will have her own place in which to throw parties that prominently feature martinis and bikinis. the anticipated date is september first, so stay tuned for news of double bed acquisition and general moving out stresses. or just go to http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Styx/3733 for more frequent updates, because i know that not everyone on this list will be as fascinated with the chronicling of a major life transition as you are. right? right. i went to see looper last night, which was really nice. not earth shattering, although perhaps that had something to do with the fact that the band didn't take to the stage until just past 11:30pm and i was tired from standing for two hours beforehand and a little queasy from being surrounded in all but total darkness and superloudbeats. but the music and movies were quite pleasant all together, they made me feel quite comfortable and warm inside. i'm still iffy about getting the cd, but live they sounded good and contemporary and all those hip adjectives. the place was packed, though, so sadly i didn't see our very own teri. but i did see wee karn (who is really not that wee, she's the same size as me and maybe a little bigger, which isn't especially wee unless you're unusually gigantic) ready to beat a man senseless with his camera for taking flash photographs after stuart david requested that flashes not be used because they're too distracting. and i rushed out and got tigermilk on wonderfully modern compact disc format, and am enjoying it far too much. i reallyreallyreally like "she's losing it" (because it makes me bounce around my room) and "we rule the school" (because we do). and so do you. i'll show you mine if you show me yours. lovelove, jessicaxo pee ess. oh, i've been awful with emails: bxk, your love tape is almost done. and christa, i'm trying desperately to catch up with your soap opera life. i haven't forgotten about you. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * someone had spied on us, i suppose, as we sat beside the canal and ate the sandwiches, drinking not even orangeade or coca-cola but hot milk out of a thermos. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * t i n y s t a r @ w o r l d y . c o m (it's lovely being a girl) +--------------------------------------------------------------------- +-- Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +-- To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister + "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" + + "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" + + "jelly-filled danishes" + +--------------------------------------------------------------------- From Etheriel99 at xxx.com Wed Jul 21 06:45:05 1999 From: Etheriel99 at xxx.com (Etheriel99 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 01:45:05 EDT Subject: Sinister: summer songs and things going wrong Message-ID: Hullos! Firstly, I've suddenly been prompted to finally speak. It's been a while since I've posted something on this list. I've been quiet for far too long I suppose. But anyhow, I just wanted to inform Big Stu that he is not alone in not having even someone to have a mini-crush on. Sadly either do I. I work at a grocery store and am finding myself oddly attracted to some of the stock boys, who under normal circumstances I would not give a second look to if they were walking down the street. Not that they aren't attractive in their own respective ways, I just suppose that they aren't really my cup of tea, that's all. And it's not that I have a crush on them, because I know what crushes are like and what they feel like; when you think about the person you like, you feel as if you're heart's in your throat or you're on a rollercoaster that's speeding down a hill. It's a feeling of excitement that I can't really describe at this point since I've been locked in this Toronto suburb of mine for far too long. So sadly I've not been getting out much. But I don't have crushes on my fellow employees, I just find myself attracted to them out of boredom. I guess I could say that this is perhaps the worst summer to date. Last summer was incredible: I thought I was in love and everything was like a beautiful movie. This summer I feel like nothing is getting done -- except maybe work. I'm losing all most of my friends to the evil arms of Montreal in September, and I'm off to University trying to hack it alone. I've spent a Summer Wasting I suppose. I should be living it up, but here I am stuck at home with nothing to do cos all my friends have to work early in the morning. Blah. Still, without a doubt, I'll probably be able to remember this summer all thanks to Tigermilk, which I suppose is a good thing. It's a bit of a tradition; I always grant myself a summer song ( though it usually grants itself) each and every summer. The summer of grade six is thankfully chained to the melody of the Cure's "Friday I'm in Love" and not Right Said Fred. I know for sure that Tigermilk will forever remind me of this past summer of security -- my last as I see it. By September my whole world will be thrown into tumult: a new school, new friends, a new place. Hopefully B&S will come up with something new for my transition period this September. Take Care everyone. Hugs and Ladybugs, Cindy p.s. I went to the Looper show the other night, but sadly I couldn't see a thing. But I enjoyed the videos very much. And I agree, wee karn isn't incredibly wee. But I suppose she's short compared to most of the people in the band and that's why she's got the name. Correct me if I'm wrong, but she looked like she was about 5 feet tall. I guess that constitutes "wee" status. Unfortunately I missed the cameraman getting accosted by Karn. Darn. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From popjourno at xxx.nl Wed Jul 21 07:40:13 1999 From: popjourno at xxx.nl (alex tobin) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:40:13 +0200 Subject: Sinister: gybe! Message-ID: Hiya all! I was just sitting here wondering if anyone else is going to go see Godspeed You Black Emperor! at the Paradiso in Amsterdam on Saturday, the 31st of July... Drop a line, and maybe we could meet up. Alex http://www.popjourno.com http://www.postmodern.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.net Wed Jul 21 09:13:12 1999 From: rebelstrange at xxx.net (Lesley J Miller) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 01:13:12 -0700 Subject: Sinister: but you say that to everyone--and i dont' believe you......... Message-ID: <000b01bed350$e17d9220$4711020a@rebelstrange> thus spake the irrepressibly irascible fluffysarah: >voice? >Yes. And her face. And her personality. And her clothes. And her hair. And she smells bad. She's a crap dancer too. And her songwriting "talent". Har! Throw her off the bridge!! She wore PEDAL PUSHERS! If clothes reflect personality then Isobel is a 12yr old townie trendy who got to shop in "New Look" for the first time with 5 pounds her momma gave her to "get her out of those fucking mothercare pinafores". >All the people who like Gentle Waves, is it because you want to have sex with Isobel? Gee wizz Martha. ahem. i an't speak for anyone else, but i dont' want to have sex with isobel. anyway, *OHHH!!* (imagine i'm saying that very loudly in a descending tone, as if you've just hit someone wayy below the belt) that is low. (well, okay, maybe i wouldn't complain tremendously if you paid me to, but it would probably be empty soulless sex and i'd expect her to pledge her heart to me and so it wouldn't work out and you know.....) since we have hatred for isobel, let's see who i can hate on today. i hate...... Evan Dando. i hate him. he's ugly, he can't sing, and he's a jerk. i saw an interview once where he said he had slept with like how many groupies when he was on tour. what a clod. UGH! i hate him. oh dear, in any case. i just wondered where the vitriolic hatred came from. cos i can understand someone not liking her voice, even tho i like it very much. i think her clothes are totally fab. she's got style. you know it. but i better stop before i get a reputation as a staunch defender of isobel campbell. oh wait, i already have one. *HAR HAR!!* but gee whiz, that is a LOT of hatred. i mean whoa nellie. not that i'm one to speak. VIVA S.C.U.M.!!!! *) who was the boy who had a lovely idea about taking his girl out under the stars and professing his love? it was very sweet. it almost made me wanna puke.....i'm just kidding. so romantic and so like me, it hits a little too close to home right now. since everyone else is unloading their personal woes (great for a voyeur like me!) i thought i would ask all of you all. what would say if..... you REALLY liked someone, like mad infatuation. and you have a friend you've known for a little while. and your friend meets the person you are in love with, and then you'r friend starts basically telling you in no uncertain terms that they are incredibly horny for the body of the person you are infatuated with. and then they start hanging around with that person and getting them drunk, and dont' give a flying **** that they know you are jealous. evne when they are ugly as sin and the person you like would never touch them with a ten foot pole. What Would Stuart Do?? what would YOU do?? i think i'm going to rip out my own hair , actually. do you think that would do any good? i haven't seen eyes wide open or whatever, because i hate movies. you know, i'm seriously considering banning anyone from my circle of friends who thinks that "Big Daddy" (the latest adam sandler mirth-fest, for those not in the know) was "hilarious". is that fair? i'm seriously considering it. i mean i'm not entirely sure that someone who would say that, is even "all there" if you knwo what i mean. god fucking forbid. (or forfend if you wish) if that is not a wakeup call, i dont' know what is. Yeah! i can beat this thing! i can get over it! jsut think of all the reasons i could have to hate her guts..... *sigh* but she is so cute anyway i'll be gone for a few days to PARTYYYYY in DC and go dancing, get my groove thang on (like that guy in the club told me the other day), get sweaty, look at dinosaru bones, and get xavier to flirt with Stephin merritt and soften him up so he won't kill me when i try to meet him. (good luck, you say?) i think claudia would talk to me. she has a girlfriend. (so says a contact of mine) i'll try to look all cute and impress her. teehee. and xavier said it's alright if i seduce his isobel lookalike girlfriend. haha..... like i could..... (i'm just kidding because i'm completely delerious) so anyway, if you email me i wont' be here for a few days but i'll talk to you then, who ever you are. welcome back teri. i'll write you JaMEs and your photo is darling, and your replacement stuff will get there eventually.... Kiss kiss mark, i'll write you back soon. oh and i liked the jfk junior thingy, even if anyoen else didnt'....... oh and i saw tigermilk today! but i didn't buy it. i resisted. i was shocked to see it whwere i did. joanne kenney is still a cutie. she's just neat. for the record, it is my goal to act out the Tigermilk cover as we did the sinister, and dog on wheels ones--but it's going to take some tricky calculations to pull it off. the self-timing--the focus--the strategically concealed body parts. i wish i had someone to take it for me, or to be the model, but that wouldn't really be as much fun. well wait a minute, it *could* be. but i'm getting off on a tangent, and i do mean getting off. harhar. i need to release some of my sexual energy, are you horny baby?? please kill me now. ihaven't seen austion powers either. she's a bee with honeyed thighs, a living hell, a slice of heaven...... LJ http://www.members.tripod.com/rebelstrange "Strong like a gorilla, yet soft and yielding like a NERF ball" SAVE MST3K!!!! http://www.mst3kinfo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk Wed Jul 21 10:12:21 1999 From: Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk (Sarah Wheeler) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:12:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Celebrity? Moi? Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990721101221.0069d5b4@pop-server.cent.gla.ac.uk> Hey yous lot OOOh, I'm dead excited, I'm gonna be on Radio Scotland's Fair Deal show on Friday morning (10am - 11am), and I've got the top story!!!! And it's all down to bastard bouncers and their bastard bosses!! Last Friday I went out clubbing and before getting let into the club I got my bag searched and was told that they couldn't let me in with my insulin or my sweets for hypos!! But they didn't actually give me any reasons for taking them. It's not even as if I carry syringes around with me, just little, fine needles that could not cause damage to anyone, not even wussy Stuart! So anyways, I went into the BBC studios on Saturday with all my gripes (and no bag search), and got interviewed and now I'm a celeb! People will refer to me on the list like they did with Evan Dando (except that nobody likes him...haw haw). Well I feel like I've lowered myself enough now, talking to you plebs. Byeeeeee Love Sheeny xx ======================= Sarah Wheeler Room 106 West Medical Building University of Glasgow GLASGOW G12 8QQ 0141-339 8855 ext.0860/0640 ======================= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From messentw at xxx.uk Wed Jul 21 11:16:20 1999 From: messentw at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?William=20Messent?=) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:16:20 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Star Wars made me have funny dreams. Message-ID: <19990721101620.17845.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> It did you know. The kind when you can't remember what happened, but you just wake up feeling...funny and a bit unsettled. And I'm sure it's because I saw Star Wars last night. Which was good. But let's not go into that now, hmm? Curse you London listees for having yet another meet-up when I shall be back home in Nottingham. I'd probably be to scared to go anyway. But I'll be back home at my mate's stag weekend, the first stag do I've ever been to, and I'm frankly terrified. So Lord knows how he must be feeling. Are stag nights really like on the telly? Ooh dear. I feel worried, yet strangely aroused. B&S content...well I've still not heard Tigermilk yet. Sos. I'll get it soon I promise. When I first heard 'Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying', I thought Stuart was singing "With our winning smiles and arse". Hee. OK kids, keep it metal, and thanks for making me smile. Love Will xx === _____________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Wed Jul 21 11:47:48 1999 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:47:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Arse or oral Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990721104748.006e4578@ampsys.co.uk> Hello world, Bderd der derrr..in a tuneful trumpet fanfare kind of way. In fact there's a Military music school near wear I live so I know a good bderd der derrrr from an arse fanfare. An arse fanfare! What a pleasant thought. How to welcome foriegn dignitaries and the like. Pull your trousers down and let rip. Tunefully and in a dignified manner of course. Oh yes, the reason for said fanfare be it arse or oral blowing (and I really am talking trumpets here) ? Ummm...oh yes there are some wonderful pop songs now up on the ear thing web site / record label (url below). You should all Bookmark it. Treasure it. Love it. Tell your friends. Spread its gospel. Let it whisper its sweet confectionary into your ears. Or something. Oh and please forgive its inevitable teething problems. Actually brevity is the father of all spare time. Hope you have has much fun with yours as I often have with mine. Te ra, Martin Ear Confection Recordings http://www.send.demon.co.uk (- I think, the songs are linked from the discography bit) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From the_fear66 at xxx.com Wed Jul 21 12:39:50 1999 From: the_fear66 at xxx.com (Matt Powell) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:39:50 GMT Subject: Sinister: Pub? On Thursday? After the picnic? What? Message-ID: <19990721113951.90968.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey kids (sorry G for stealing that) Never before has a mans workload changed so dramatically in the space of so little time. One week ago I was a mere data processor, but now I am a data processor/graphic designer/computer programmer/supervisor /organisational machine. And the bastards still aren't paying me any more money. Boo hoo. My time will come though, ha ha ha (now that is sinister). Been listening to my Tigermilk loads. It really rocks, even more than I expected it to. Which was a lot, I can tell you. I must now leap to my own defense after some scandalous alegations by Marcus O a while back. He 'claimed' not to recognise me because I had washed my hair. Well thats where your wrong Mr M, because I never wash my hair. How could one acheive such beautifully bizarre levels of frizziness when dabbling with the likes of Pantene, or, if you like, Flex. But anyway, I'm missing me point here I think. I, as I just mentioned, work, so I can't unfortunately make the picnic on Thursday, but if anyone would be so gracious as to let me know which pub you'll be heading to afterwards, I plan to rendezvous there. So if your out there, and you know something I don't know then I would be most grateful for any pointers. And then its back to work A-G-A-I-N. A kinder egg to the first person who tells me where thats from (I know its not hard, but the lure of a kinder egg is almost gauranteed to get me responses). cheerio then matt xx ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed Jul 21 13:29:40 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:29:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I take what I need and I throw away the rest Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E2275CC59@server1.HITEntertainment.com> I'm just back from watching Sinister-recommended (cheers, CatatonicSteve!) daytime TV programme Ready, Steady, Cook Jesus. The deregulation of TV, I don't know. Here's some startling new evidence that listening to Tigermilk (particularly "The State I'm In") is epidemic at Buckingham Palace: http://www.pa.press.net/news/royal/ROYAL_Footman_42377s.html?pab293 Gosh I'm funny today. They say a sense of humour is very attractive in a man, so quick! get to the List Crush booth before your sides split! However, can people stop fancying Marcus Omond (3 votes and counting) as he's getting so loved up he's likely to explode :) The Spoon mentioned Pussy Galore. I don't remember seeing them here before, but they're certainly worthy of discussion. Cu*t Tease is indeed a fine song, and I'd pay good money to hear Isobel warble Julie Cafritz' lines. Next week - Sarah Martin is the God of Fuck . And on that disturbing but strangely titillating thought, I'll go and book my tickets to New York. Ready and willing, Mark xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Wed Jul 21 13:49:00 1999 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 05:49:00 PDT Subject: Sinister: New Years eve frenzy!!!! Message-ID: <19990721124900.79225.qmail@hotmail.com> Ok, I should write this to the meet-up thingy (and I will, but later), but I thought I'd do some checking out first (and YES, I know this is EARLY). The thing is this: I'm, going to London for the new year, and I was wondering if there's any plans for some big B&S- extravaganza on new years eve? Would be nice, I said to myself yesterday, while reading The Buddha Of Suburbia in the park. 'Cause I have a feeling that all the places will be crammed with people in there on THAT day. So please, if there's somebody in here who lives in a mansion in downtown London and has all these beautiful servants who are willing to rub my shoulders while the fireworks are cracking holes to the ozone layer, please let me know. Please. And 15 days 'till I get my computer. And then I shall write to people I haven't written to for almost a month. I'm off now. It's raining outside, but I'm going partying today, so I don't mind. @--->--- Jace le petit. "Met a cigarette girl she was mad about sex she turned out to be a cheater but I'm glad that we met." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Wed Jul 21 18:43:00 1999 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:43:00 GMT Subject: Sinister: I think I'm done with the kitchen table, baby Message-ID: <37960623.58786@post.demon.co.uk> Oh Sinister! Gee whizz. It's been a celebrity studded last couple of weeks since I last deigned to speak to you.... First of all my "manor" is in a state of muted awe right now, thanks to the recent arrival of a new resident, Mr. Jah Wobble. Wob-browsing has taken over our lives. Points are gained for sightings of the great nutter, with extra bonus marks if you manage to spot him in full Arab headgear, like he wore on the cover of that record he did that I've forgotten the name of. I haven't seen him yet, but you can rest assured that I've been touched by his presence, dears. Secondly, I saw Dan Ackroyd getting into a fucking big limo in Glasgow and you didn't. Well, a couple of you did. Actually, I think he's a bit crap, but that didn't stop me from telling everyone who'd listen ad nauseam on Friday night. Telling everyone how great you are because you've seen someone famous makes you big and clever, I learnt that from being on Sinister. ~ I was a bit disappointed in Beanz' Divine top ten on the B&S website, as he failed to mention any of the songs that made Baltimore's finest transvestite the legend he is today. No "Shoot your shot", no "You think you're a man"...what was he thinking of? Talking of Divine, I'm reading John Waters's "Crackpot" at the moment and it's a right rivetting read. Although it doesn't mention the episode when JW and Divine went on a little shoplifting spree, each urging the other to steal progressively more outrageous things. This culminated in Divine emerging from one shop with a TV under one arm and a chainsaw in the other. I bet Keith Moon never did anything that funny, the big girl's blouse. Now I'm going to be all useful... Andy Pandy wrote: >cover versions? we got um... > >there was a whole gig full of serge covers At the Gainsbourg tribute night last summer, Stevie did "Lolita go home". And I met a very foxy lady from Toronto. There was another Serge night before that when I seem to remember Isobel covered "Bonnie and Clyde". But I wasn't there. >there was also that time they supplied the music for evie sands Yes, they played on "Angel of the morning", "I can't let go" and "Take me for a little while". Plus "Wild Thing", featuring a Murdoch bass solo Jah Wobble himself would be proud of. There was also a night at the 13th Note two Decembers ago where they did a set of 5 covers - a Beck song sung by Richard, a Curtis Mayfield song (Stevie), "I've got something on my mind" by ye Lefte Banke (sung by Disco Stu), "You trip me up" by the Jesus and Mary Chain (Sarah singing) and Orange Juice's "In a nutshell" (Isobel). I need a lie down now. Isn't Keith supposed to do all the informative stuff? Love Tag xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From csomeone at xxx.com Wed Jul 21 19:52:46 1999 From: csomeone at xxx.com (Cynthia Someone) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:52:46 PDT Subject: Sinister: Happiness is a ... Message-ID: <19990721185246.1560.qmail@hotmail.com> hello everyone. Nothing like a new cd to get me blazingly cheery. i listened to Tigermilk last night and invented a new dance by the second track. Life really isn't so bad. Today i have called in sick from work and the sun is shining into my echinacea tea, and i am wishing I could meet some of your dreamers in person. I am also wishing to be a fantastic piano player. I can play "I'm bringing home a baby bumble bee". I guess that's good enough. everyone is loving starwars. that is interesting because there's so much slagging of it in the media here in the states. even some of the biggest science fiction buffs found it disappointing. i loved it because it's beautiful. lit like a sparkler Cynthia _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eculb at xxx.com Wed Jul 21 19:51:59 1999 From: eculb at xxx.com (JaMeS) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:51:59 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Good day! Message-ID: <001d01bed3aa$1ec54b60$933eac3e@jhkng> well, not a bad day by half. first i get a call saying that ive got a temping job starting tomorrow, Hooray! ,which saved me from idly wasting my day playing SinkSub. Second, i got to wave the belle and sebastian flag to the nation, well radio 1 listeners, because mark radcliffe, bless,read out my We Rule the School contribution to todays Cheesily Cheerful Chart Challenge. though it didnt make the top ten. bastard. JaMeS :) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Hall/7789 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Wed Jul 21 20:33:24 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:33:24 EDT Subject: Sinister: midgets are the new rock and roll Message-ID: martin talked a lot of rudeness, but his message rang clear and true like a brass bell when he said: << Ummm...oh yes there are some wonderful pop songs now up on the ear thing web site / record label (url below). You should all Bookmark it. Treasure it. Love it. Tell your friends. Spread its gospel. Let it whisper its sweet confectionary into your ears. Or something. Oh and please forgive its inevitable teething problems>>> He's dead right, boys and girls. Go see Ear Confection Records. It's very nice, and I'm not just saying that because I'm involved. Very soon more band will be on the site, and before you know it, we'll be mildly famous. So get on the bandwagon now. Really. The Rescuers are *good*. In fact, someone from sinister is in them. Sorry, but i don't know who. He or she will have to stand up and introduce themself. PS you can send us (well, martin) tapes and demos if you like. We need to get more people the exposure they deserve, and the more bands there are on the site, the more interest will be generated. I think. dave, US liason for Ear Confection (east coast branch) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i_love_moon at xxx.com Wed Jul 21 21:28:42 1999 From: i_love_moon at xxx.com (hay fever) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:28:42 +0200 Subject: Sinister: you can't hide your love forever References: <37960623.58786@post.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <19990721201910.68304.qmail@hotmail.com> >There was also a night at the 13th Note two Decembers ago where they >did a set of 5 covers - a Beck song sung by Richard, a Curtis Mayfield >song (Stevie), "I've got something on my mind" by ye Lefte Banke (sung >by Disco Stu), "You trip me up" by the Jesus and Mary Chain (Sarah >singing) and Orange Juice's "In a nutshell" (Isobel). yeah you are defiantly right, i got a tape of In A Nutshell (wonderful tune by the way) from that show. quite noisy but really cool. if anyone has the other songs from that session on tape, please do not hesitate to contact me, it would be so thrilling to hear Sarah Martin sing :-) johan email: sinister at hayfever.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stephenjh at xxx.net Thu Jul 22 00:06:13 1999 From: stephenjh at xxx.net (Stephen Heister) Date: 21 Jul 99 16:06:13 PDT Subject: Sinister: Alpha Ready Lizard PeePee's Message-ID: <19990721230613.14516.qmail@wwcst212.netaddress.usa.net> Hello People, ummmmm Well..... I drove today, in search of a rumored CD store that had Tigermilk.. It was a lovely scene driving through town a scratchy tape of "The Boy With the Arab Strap" playing on my weak car speakers as loud as i can get it, (on the off chance that some random passerby will reconize the tune and throw themselves in front of my car screaming, "stop stop stop, i thought i would never find anyone around here that listens to B&S". But alas nothing of sort happened.) So i knew i was probably setting myself up for dissapointment when i walked into the store whislting "chickfactor" for almost the same reason. Avoided talking to the guy at the counter becasue i have the hardest time talking to males, i am not sure why but being rasied in the matriarcal setting that i was i have the hardest time dealing with men. At any rate I found the CD jumped about three feet in the air and ran out-side. Just to turn around and run back inside and pay for my ill-gotten treasure. I sped home (not that anyone would notice as everyone speeds in Atlanta) and listened to it in it's full digital glory. And it was wonderfulll of course it was.. however.... I think i still like my weathered tape of Tigermilk borrowed from a friend that stole it from an enemy that made a copy of a copy from a bootleg that was burned from someone that was rumored to have an actual copy. I say it is nice to listen to, but some of the mystery is missing. Oh well enough of my rambles.. Goodbye People Stephen Stephen Heister StephenJH at netscape.net "Hi, I'm the Local Reject." ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stephenjh at xxx.net Wed Jul 21 23:42:37 1999 From: stephenjh at xxx.net (Stephen Heister) Date: 21 Jul 99 15:42:37 PDT Subject: Sinister: Alpha Ready Lizard PeePee's Message-ID: <19990721224237.20457.qmail@www0d.netaddress.usa.net> Hello People, ummmmm Well..... I drove today, in search of a rumored CD store that had Tigermilk.. It was a lovely scene driving through town a scratchy tape of "The Boy With the Arab Strap" playing on my weak car speakers as loud as i can get it, (on the off chance that some random passerby will recognize the tune and throw themselves in front of my car screaming, "stop stop stop, i thought i would never find anyone around here that listens to B&S". But alas nothing of sort happened.) So i knew i was probably setting myself up for dissapointment when i walked into the store whistling "chickfactor" for almost the same reason. Avoided talking to the guy at the counter because i have the hardest time talking to males, i am not sure why but being raised in the matriarchal setting that i was i have the hardest time dealing with men. At any rate I found the CD jumped about three feet in the air and ran out-side. Just to turn around and run back inside and pay for my ill-gotten treasure. I sped home (not that anyone would notice as everyone speeds in Atlanta) and listened to it in it's full digital glory. And it was wonderfull of course it was.. however.... I think i still like my weathered tape of Tigermilk borrowed from a friend that stole it from an enemy that made a copy of a copy from a bootleg that was burned from someone that was rumored to have an actual copy. I say it is nice to listen to, but some of the mystery is missing. Oh well enough of my rambles.. Goodbye People Stephen Stephen Heister StephenJH at netscape.net "Hi, I'm the Local Reject." ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From CMcQuain at xxx.org Wed Jul 21 05:23:29 1999 From: CMcQuain at xxx.org (McQuain, Chris) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 21:23:29 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Ah been misconstrued! Message-ID: I. AM. A. FEMINIST. There, I said it and I feel so much better. I'm a feminist in an pro-ERA/pro-porn/pro-choice/Camille Paglia kind of way, not a radical gender-superiority kind of way, but still, what Megan wrote I feel I must clear up: >>>>>>>>At 12:03 PM 7/19/99, McQuain, Chris wrote: >A girl who loves Kubrick, actually knows Godard's Weekend, and into Belle & >S? I normally play for the Pink Team, but Dawn- will you marry me? alright, i know i tend to find fault with chris' posts a lot, but this perhaps rubbed me the wrong way. maybe it's because i take shit from boys all day at film school, and we're not talking obvious stuff, more like the let-me-have-my-friend-who-is-a-boy-shoot-the-camera-because-i-have-yet-to-de velop-the-social-skills-to-accept-that-girls-are-human-beings. girls are not immune to good film!!! <<<<<<<< Okay, let me translate what I wrote for the humor impaired: As one who plays for The Pink Team, it would be highly unusual for me to propose to a girl. It would also be highly unusual to find a PERSON, boy or girl, who worships at the twin Kubrick/Godard altars. The only reason I had to use the word 'girl' instead of the word 'person' is so my rather flip little joke would make sense, but I see it backfired. I in no way meant to imply that girls need to be led into good taste by boys. In fact, in my experience, it's often the opposite case. I'm horrified that this has been mis-read as misogynistic and patronizing. I know the person for whom it was intended didn't mind it at all- at least SHE got the joke. It makes about as much sense for somebody to take the 'girl' thing seriously as it does for Dawn to fly out here to Portland for our 'wedding'. I honestly don't understand it. If I didn't take every last thing written on this list with a grain of salt and a good sense of humour, I'm sure I would've been offended hundreds of times over by now. Yet somebody takes offense at well-intentioned, shyly-stuttering, utterly inoffensive me? Well, I choose not to be offended by THAT, either, but I hope this post will clear up any misconceptions about me being some kind of chauvinist pig. Pink Teamers hardly ever are, and if they are they should be doubly ashamed. And speaking of the Pink Team, are those rumors about Steven Merritt being a bit of a prick unless you're young, male, and gorgeous true? I love the man's music but Ive heard this rumor from every young lady I've ever known who has attempted to approach him... -Two or Three Things I Know About Chris +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From CMcQuain at xxx.org Wed Jul 21 20:24:37 1999 From: CMcQuain at xxx.org (McQuain, Chris) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:24:37 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Ah been misconstrued! (2) Message-ID: I posted this last night, but I've received quite a handful of Sinister posts, but never received my post, so I assume it somehow didn't get posted. If it did, I sincerely apologize in advance for the repeat. ******************************************************************* I. AM. A. FEMINIST. There, I said it and I feel so much better. I'm a feminist in an pro-ERA/pro-porn/pro-choice/Camille Paglia kind of way, not a radical gender-superiority kind of way, but still, what Megan wrote I feel I must clear up: >>>>>>>>At 12:03 PM 7/19/99, McQuain, Chris wrote: >A girl who loves Kubrick, actually knows Godard's Weekend, and into Belle & >S? I normally play for the Pink Team, but Dawn- will you marry me? alright, i know i tend to find fault with chris' posts a lot, but this perhaps rubbed me the wrong way. maybe it's because i take shit from boys all day at film school, and we're not talking obvious stuff, more like the let-me-have-my-friend-who-is-a-boy-shoot-the-camera-because-i-have-yet-to-de velop-the-social-skills-to-accept-that-girls-are-human-beings. girls are not immune to good film!!! <<<<<<<< Okay, let me translate what I wrote for the humor impaired: As one who plays for The Pink Team, it would be highly unusual for me to propose to a girl. It would also be highly unusual to find a PERSON, boy or girl, who worships at the twin Kubrick/Godard altars. The only reason I had to use the word 'girl' instead of the word 'person' is so my rather flip little joke would make sense, but I see it backfired. I in no way meant to imply that girls need to be led into good taste by boys. In fact, in my experience, it's often the opposite case. I'm horrified that this has been mis-read as misogynistic and patronizing. I know the person for whom it was intended didn't mind it at all- at least SHE got the joke. It makes about as much sense for somebody to take the 'girl' thing seriously as it does for Dawn to fly out here to Portland for our 'wedding'. I honestly don't understand it. If I didn't take every last thing written on this list with a grain of salt and a good sense of humour, I'm sure I would've been offended hundreds of times over by now. Yet somebody takes offense at well-intentioned, shyly-stuttering, utterly inoffensive me? Well, I choose not to be offended by THAT, either, but I hope this post will clear up any misconceptions about me being some kind of chauvinist pig. Pink Teamers hardly ever are, and if they are they should be doubly ashamed. -Two or Three Things I Know About Chris +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brightnessfalls at xxx.com Thu Jul 22 06:33:24 1999 From: brightnessfalls at xxx.com (Honor Tennant) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:33:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Whats up - from Honor Tennant Message-ID: <199907220533.XAA04696@turtle.esosoft.net> Guess what! You have just received an animated greeting card from Honor Tennant You'll see the personal greeting by using the following Web location. http://www1.bluemountain.com/cards/box6687y/pfa8wrttdvktam.htm (Your greeting card will be available for the next 90 days) There is no charge for this service! :) HAVE a good day and have fun! ____________________________________________________________ Accessing your card indicates your agreement with our Website Rules posted at the bottom of the following Web location: (You're welcome to send a card at no charge to someone at this location) http://www.bluemountain.com/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i_love_moon at xxx.com Thu Jul 22 08:47:38 1999 From: i_love_moon at xxx.com (lover plays the bass) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:47:38 CEST Subject: Sinister: you can't hide your love forever (again) Message-ID: <19990722064743.29943.qmail@hotmail.com> OK, this information i know about the show. it was on Tuesday December 2nd in Glasgow at the 13th Note. An AIDS benefit gig, with a covers set from the Pastels, Belle and Sebastian, and Eugenius. The Beck song is not really a Beck song but Beck covering Johnny Cash, so that would mean Belle and Sebastian were covering Johnny Cash. hmmm, well if any one have heard it, more info would be cool. Johan sinister at hayfever.net hayfever.net >>There was also a night at the 13th Note two Decembers ago where >>they did >>a set of 5 covers - a Beck song sung by Richard, a Curtis >>Mayfield song >>(Stevie), "I've got something on my mind" by ye Lefte >>Banke (sung by >>Disco Stu), "You trip me up" by the Jesus and Mary >>Chain (Sarah singing) >>and Orange Juice's "In a nutshell" (Isobel). >yeah you are defiantly right, i got a tape of In A Nutshell (wonderful tune >by the way) from that show. quite noisy but really cool. if anyone has the >other songs from that session on tape, please do not hesitate to contact >me, it would be so thrilling to hear Sarah Martin sing :-) > >johan > >email: sinister at hayfever.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Thu Jul 22 08:08:45 1999 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 03:08:45 EDT Subject: Sinister: She's a jar with a heavy lid...my pop quiz kid Message-ID: I've been witness to the recent bashing of two things I happen to fancy quite well, one being Saving Private Ryan and the other being Evan Dando. I believe someone implied that Private Ryan was a boring film. Hopefully this was some tongue-in-cheek sarcasm I totally missed (as usual) because I can't think of a single film thats kept my attention for 3 hours other than this. The plot was half decent, but Spielburg's directing was incredible and the dialogue and screenplay knocked me out as well. I guess the whole success of this kind of film depends on the audience member forging some kind of bond or interest with the characters and if this isn't there then I can see how it could be contrued as boring. But if this film didn't move you in the least you might wanna check for a pulse. I know everyone hates Mr. Dando, and as a person I'm sure he's pure goats arse, but I think his music is quite great. The first couple of Lemonheads' punk albums did kind of suck when that other guy was singing but I openly profess my love of every Lemonheads record since he took the helm. I dig his voice alot just because its so smooth and deep and manliesque and he does have a neat way with a turn of a phrase (i.e.- "patience is like bread I say, I ran out of that yesterday"). He is a cocky sonofabitch, thats for sure. I read somewhere that he got thrown out of a B&S show in NY and then arrested afterwards because he refused to leave. I agree that he's probably 100% pure bastard and thats probably why I can't develop any deep affection for a Lemonheads album, but I'll give the guy his credit as an ace songwriter. Is this Kennedy Tragedy stuff depressing the living hell out of anyone else? I never really knew too much about the guy beforehand but now that every second of his being that was caught on tape is being replayed every 5 minutes, I'm starting to dig him. He really seemed like a nice, modest, sweet guy that was just existing as we were. Having to watch him salute his father's casket over and over, and seeing him wrestle with his wife and nephews at the Kennedy compound is just too depressing to focus on for too long. I feel worse about his death than if he was like his asshole uncle Ted, drunk all the time and using his last name like a badge. I guess the easiest remedy would be to change the channel, but hey! I'm pretty weak when it comes to celebrity tragedies I suppose. When Di was killed I couldn't leave the TV for a week. Call me a vulture if you will but my life is pretty dull.so what else am I gonna do? Any other people who feel somehow fascinated by these things please post so I don't look like a total arse. James Taylor is soooo good. Sweet Baby James reminds me of B&S in some places. Happy Hemingway birthday! Steve C. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Thu Jul 22 08:31:16 1999 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 03:31:16 EDT Subject: Sinister: A sleep kisser...a pretty waltz Message-ID: <259784bf.24c822c4@aol.com> Obviously I'm not the first to have noticed this, but Erica looks absolutely ravishing on her List Pic. She is a worthy recipient of every list vote she has gotten and many many more. Even slightly blurry she makes me lightheaded and slurry-worded. You can be my Isobel Campbell any day of the week! (if you want that is). I'm not much of a Stuart Murdoch but someone once told me I looked like Cameron from Ferris Bueller's Day Off. I think that was meant to be a compliment. Anyway I was so moved by her Hellenic beauty I felt I had to ramble for awhile... Love Steve C. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From robin.stout at xxx.com Thu Jul 22 09:44:03 1999 From: robin.stout at xxx.com (Robin Stout) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:44:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: It was as long as my arm Message-ID: <001901bed41e$5b3a3000$90f0abc3@default> hello my lovelies Mick McBrian's not the only one who likes all these tasty morsels of info. I've been doing a bit of sniffing around myself. Someone mentioned that they'd heard there were only going to be Stuart M tracks on the new album. Well, I was about to go to bed but this started a few bells ringing in my tired head, so I had a look through the archive to shut them up. I found something by Chris Leonard from January after he'd spoken to Mick Cooke. This is what he said; "Mick said Belle and Sebastian had been in the studio all week and they had recorded some songs. One is written by Stuart but Isobel sings it and one is a duet between Stuart and Isobel." So perhaps Landslide is written by Struan? I hope not, I thought it was a bit smelly myself. And another thing; Mick wrote ages ago that shortly after forming B + S played a bedroom gig and one of the songs was called Your Idea Of Fun. Has anyone ever heard this? It seems to have sunk without a trace. So there you go - if you need to know something, ask someone called Mick. Robin xxxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bertrand.Caron at xxx.se Thu Jul 22 09:48:28 1999 From: Bertrand.Caron at xxx.se (Bertrand Caron) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:48:28 +0200 Subject: Sinister: tigermilk is number 15 in the swedish chart Message-ID: <3796DADC.C3B03BDA@uab.ericsson.se> I just read it in the free newspaper that we have in the tube in Stockholm... Well I am not quit sure of what chart it is as I still don't speak and understand swedish but well... MAybe some swedish people may be able to tell more. beb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sleeka_sounds at xxx.com Thu Jul 22 09:51:36 1999 From: sleeka_sounds at xxx.com (Sleeka Sounds) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 01:51:36 PDT Subject: Sinister: CHURCH/covers Message-ID: <19990722085137.18164.qmail@hotmail.com> Dear chums, Oh what a beautiful morning! Something wonderful shall happen today, I can tell. Last night me and the little but strong Miss Julia went to see Ron Sexsmith again, this time at the cottiers theatre which is an old CHURCH. The fella is amazing, what a voice! Hooray for Ron! Spotted: Monica Queen. I wonder if she talks as loud as she sings, that would be really annoying. I bet she eats a lot of Trio's. She thinks she's saying other words, but all that comes out is "TRRRRRRRIIIIOOOOOOOOO!!". And folk say "Monica, why do you keep shouting trio, you've already had 5?", and she says "TRIIIIIIIIIIOOOO!!!". And they're like "Monica, do you fancy going to see Ron Sexsmith tonight" and she goes "TRIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOO!!!". Are we still talking about covers? Let's not forget the Hyndland CHURCH gig of last year, I'm not sure if you sing a CHURCH song it's a cover but, guess what, hoho, I don't care. They played: Seek Ye First the Kingdom of God Morning Has Broken Lord of the Dance Something about "essence" that Stevie sang Turn Turn Turn Make me a channel of your peace Light up a fire He's got the whole world in his hands Does a stevie solo concert count as Belle and Sebastian? He covered a Johnny Cash song which I can't remember the name of, and a song by one of his pals which I can't remember the name of at the "Jesus, protect this CHURCH hall with a fence charity gig" at the end of last summer. That doesn't help much. That's all I can think of right about now. Chris Leonard P.S. Thanks to everyone for their contributions to the Stuart Murdoch Fan site. If your mail hasn't been included yet, it will be soon, at the weekend anyway. P.P.S. Charlotte, if you get this can you mail me again, i deleted your mail by accident. Whoops. Have you got a new name now? P.P.P.S. Robin, Landslide was written all by Isobel, I believe. I thought it was pretty good. Especially the sax solo. =================================== Visit the Stuart Murdoch Fan Site http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~calnd/stuart/stuart.htm Visit the Sleeka Sounds Corporation http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~calnd/sleeka/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From linus at xxx.au Thu Jul 22 10:16:01 1999 From: linus at xxx.au (lisa morrison) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:16:01 +1000 Subject: Sinister: Who needs boys when there's Lisa round? Message-ID: Hello:) This is my first post, My name is Lisa and I'm from Sydney, Australia. I just bought Tigermilk today, so far I really love it like all B&S stuff. Anyways as you might imagine I'm a little curious about my name popping up in three B&S songs, does anyone know who the "real" Lisa is? A friend of Stuart's??? I really freaked out when I first heard "Beautiful". It is really strange having one of your favoutite bands sing songs with your name in it. I don't know, does anyone else share this feeling?? TTFN, Lisa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlearsonist at xxx.com Thu Jul 22 14:45:11 1999 From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:45:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: is this thing on? Message-ID: <19990722134511.1749.rocketmail@web104.yahoomail.com> right, right... well, i wasn't going to post, as i've been going a bit overboard of late, but hell it's friday -- oh, wait it's only thursday. well, it is sort of friday to me b/c i'm off tomorrow b/c miss KIMberly is at this Very Moment on a bus from pittsburgh to new york, and tomorrow we're going to paint the town red. mmm-hmm! looper looper looper tomorrow night! i am muy excited b/c, although the show i saw in london in march was amazing, i've heard all these tales of how stu is much more relaxed and cheerful or some such. he seemed a mite nervous or uptight at the london show, and there was that strange phenomenon where all the kids sat crosslegged on the floor instead of gittin' they groove on like they shoulda been. yo. :) um... if you haven't looked at sleeka's struan fan site, go now! and cindy, if you're out there, i agree! the way he says "lovers" in get me away from here.... is exquisite! gets me every time, too... right here... [wink] ... um, due to a dirty conversation i had with mandybeambug the other night, the phrase "tigermilking" will always have some twisted implications for me.... see, we imagined that all these sinister folks were getting their tigermilks, and some were hearing it for the first time, but regardless, well, everyone was surely Very excited... very very excited... and anyway this quickly degenerated into a vision of a transcontinental wank session... they've called it tigermilking.... oh, dear, forgive me please! anyway, it is quite nice to have an un-fuzzy digital version. but i still can't hear struan bouncing on his chair.... oh, miss KIMberly is working muy hard on a little zine she calls "you're a star," and there is this lil list we've been working on for it that is basically weird obssessive b&s-related things that fans do... so if you've got something you'd like to add to the "you know you're an obssessive b&s fan when..." list (this is all quite tongue-in-cheek, okay? all good fun), email me or kimmy PRIVATELY of course. thanks, kids -- you're each and every on of you a star! ack! well, all you D.C. listees MUST post tomorrow (first thing, kids! get yr lazy arses out of bed!) and let us know how the show went... manana it's looper nyc, baby! um, yes. have a lovely morning. xoxo, marie === ************************************************************** "I was a proper snob in college, as only a future lifetime English major can be" - b. glass (jds) "to me she was just marie." -mersault ************************************************************** _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Thu Jul 22 14:59:22 1999 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:59:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Let's kick misfits out of rock Message-ID: <802567B6.004CD9AE.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> Here's the Tom Cox Guardian review that should have gone in last week. Isn't he wicked? Belle and Sebastian Tigermilk (Jeepster) 3/5 stars The most irritating thing about Belle And Sebastian?s Stuart Murdoch is that, like Morrissey in the 80s, he seems to be on a preplanned mission to rescue his own misfit army from drab bedroom oblivion. Fat girls with lisps, wilting boys with eye patches, tank-top nobodies with Saturday jobs in Debenhams ? Murdoch sings to them as Wimp Supreme, self-consciously liberating his "children" ? and never more effetely than on this formerly-rare 1996 debut. As frustratingly pasty, winsome and intermittently limp as a union between Nick Drake, The Left Banke and a 1982 primary school assembly, Tigermilk is a hard record to love without a burning sadistic desire to steal its National Health glasses and kick its lunchbox around the playground. (TC) Who said the new album is going to be all Stuart Murdoch songs? I think this is not true. Wot no Winter Wooskie? It's funny all that stuff about Monica Queen being the Trio girl. I think I had always had the connection loitering in my mind, but I needed Chris Leonard to tease it out of my consciousness. Sadly, references to Trio adverts will be lost on the very young and all those who don't come from this country. But I don't pity you. Gratuitous use of late 20th century phrase and fable is not an altogether good thing, especially when it's of the 'Ooh bring back Spangles and Jamie and the Magic Torch' variety. Yet Chris carries it off with style, as always. Better than Staurtemm does with his clumsy 'Man about the House' references, if you ask me. Perhaps he could delegate TV nostalgia lyrics to Chris. It's about time the band took on another member. Nikki xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geoff at xxx.uk Thu Jul 22 16:03:31 1999 From: geoff at xxx.uk (geoff) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:03:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: London Tonight Message-ID: Hi kids As some of you will know there is a picnic going on in London today which us wage-slaves can't go to. So for those who just can't get enough sinister, we're hoping to meet the picnic-ing hardcore in the Spread Eagle tonight. I have no idea if they are going to be there to be honest with you. The Spread Eagle is about 200 yards up the Camden 'Parkway', just about opposite the Dublin Castle, (which for my money is a far superior hostelry, but whatever) and the FUN starts about 7pm or whenever we can get there. I *confidently* expect a turn-out of, oooh, at least 5. See you there???? love geoff (that's an order...:-) PS: why did I get chucked off the list crush, anyone? Premonition +44 (0)181 552 2212 [http://www.premonition.co.uk/] Graphic Design Photography Website Design Digital Imaging Illustration Copywriting Print Sourcing Corporate ID Macintosh Technical Support 86 High Street South London E6 3RL +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Thu Jul 22 18:04:20 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:04:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: You could fit a bus inside her Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E228258C6@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Reading sinister has just given me a new lease of life, so I'm going to try and get my thoughts down quick smart before I feel shaky and unwell again. Cheers to Marie for mentioning the word "Tigermilking" several times - your favourite London-based B&S nightC!L!U!B! is back in business on Friday 13th August. Vampire fangs and ghostly moans obligatory. We may even have some Sinisterines playing their hearts out to entertain you...Upstairs at the Garage, see you there... (and Marie, see you in NYC mid-October?) Being called Mark doesn't leave you open to being name-checked much, and when you are it's usually with a small "m". I did get Mark Twain, though, if that counts...Having said that, my middle name has been mentioned simply dozens of times on Sinister lately - my parents named me after our beloved prime minister, which is why I'm honoured with the name Blair. Yes, ho ho, very funny. I hated the name so much I once lied to a close friend and pretended to be called Benjamin. My other middle name begins with D, and is shared with a famous 20th Century playwright, Just to annoy you, guess which one... Miss Vicky, whose "miss" was callously stolen from the petite but fearsome Miss Julia, now has a huge pair of tits adorning her bedroom wall. And it was *me* what nicked the Tigermilk poster in the first place...I finally got around to ordering it last night, fuzzy with much wine, and managed to bugger up the order on the Jeepster site (how come the vinyl price has risen, David?). You see, whenever I've bought myself a B&S record, I've also bought one for my mum at the same time, as she thinks B&S are superb (she also thinks the Traveling Wilburies are superb, and likes nothing more than a bit of thumping techno, but there you go). But this time I forgot ("aaaah", I hear you all say), so she'll just have to borrow mine. Tough. Should I buy the Pop Romantique album from Amazon? Gosh I just don't know. Kiss kiss to Lesley Jo - is this what they call Cybersex? :) Amanda artgirl doesn't know what she's missing - snap up Lesley *at once*, you hear me, she's a little bit special... Yeurchh - mutual bigging up. Doncha just hate it? Anyway. I once went out with a girl because she wanted to figure out her sexuality. No prizes for guessing which side of the fence she came down on (no pun intended). Has this happened to anyone else on the list? Vic and I are planning *yet another* webzine, which we intend to call It's Like Pop (and that's the way it is). Any contributions or advice more than welcome... Off to purchase an eyepatch for that up-to-the-minute B&S look, Mark Blair ??? Casarotto (Credibility consultant, Ear Confection records. Yeah, right) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Thu Jul 22 21:03:01 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:03:01 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Who's That On The Bill, Then? Message-ID: <199907221603_MC2-7DEF-8C96@compuserve.com> Hi All (especially Peter), Apologies twice. Firstly about the duff gen about The Flaming Lips, it was of course The Flaming Stars on John Peel on Tuesday night. (Son James misheard. He is however an expert on things Cay, Idlewild & SFA.) The Flaming Stars are always worth a listen, though, & Max Decharne's book "I Was A Teenage Wharehouse" is a laugh as well. Secondly, for the message about Roger Daltrey being on the Bill in June: its actually tonight, & yes, I will record it for Mr Miller :) Other stuff: Andydean wrote (to be later trumped by Tag): cover versions? we got um... stevie did the guitar bit from the start of 'circle sky' in glasgow & he also sang nearly all of Dylan's "Like A Rolling Stone" during a farting around between songs bit at The Union Chapel Mike, can I offer a Thai Fact, in the absence of one of yours? Two new rain-making aircraft are now based at Don Muang airport, and were exchanged for 101,000 tons of rice as part of a barter deal with Indonesia . Love to All, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From guile at xxx.br Thu Jul 22 20:28:04 1999 From: guile at xxx.br (Guilherme Barrella) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:28:04 -0300 Subject: Sinister: you can't hide your love forever (again) References: <19990722064743.29943.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <379770C1.89DF2567@telnet.com.br> Hello Sinisterines, Still talking about covers and Beck... I don't want to confuse but maybe it was a Beck song. I mean, Johnny Cash did a Beck song on his last album so, maybe, the Beck song IS a Beck song and Johnny Cash was covering Beck, so that would mean Belle and Sebastian were covering Beck. (Ok, I'm puzzled) Oh, and the song is called Rowboat. And this is just my opinion. I haven't heard the Belle version. Love, Gui PS - This Johnny Cash album is great. It's called Unchained and has some covers from Soundgarden to Spain! It's not a covers album though. lover plays the bass wrote: > OK, this information i know about the show. it was on Tuesday December 2nd > in Glasgow at the 13th Note. An AIDS benefit gig, with a covers set from the > Pastels, Belle and Sebastian, and Eugenius. The Beck song is not really a > Beck song but Beck covering Johnny Cash, so that would mean Belle and > Sebastian were covering Johnny Cash. > > hmmm, well if any one have heard it, more info would be cool. > > Johan > > sinister at hayfever.net > hayfever.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Fri Jul 23 02:53:24 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:53:24 PDT Subject: Sinister: baby did a bad,bad thing Message-ID: <19990723015327.31957.qmail@hotmail.com> Dearest List, Mmmm...just returned from cottage up at Lac-Des-Loups..its like paradise there..the lake laps at the shore,the weather must be 20 degrees cooler than the godawful heat round here,the trees,the bar-b-q the whole essence of summer! Gosh..is July almost over? (screaming) Noooo...I absolutely despise all these magazines that come out in mid-july with "Back To School Cool" Can we just enjoy the moment please? Me and a bud were paddle-boating around the lake during the sunset (with the moon out at the same time) we had our boom box in the back of the boat,paddled with one foot while dragging the other foot in the warm water...and I never realised how beautiful the beginning of "Good Vibrations" by the Beach Boys is! Could you just imagaine how perfect that would be out there with a beloved one? (Tis a pity,there was a severe lack of hotties round those boonies,but alas) Anyways,funny moment..me and my bud were discussing girlie things and I said a certain word a little too loud..and (you must realise,we thought we were all alone in the peaceful dreamworld)at the same time we noticed there was a boat,with two men fishing,just in front of us.I swear,the word just seemed to echo round the lake, and we burst out laughing,and my god..I never saw anybody canoe that fast before! They hi-tailed it outta there like mad peanuts. Aylssa Marie,dearest girl,the sight of my heaving bosoms wouldn`t really cheer you up.Unfourtunately,the prom dress was a little too big to achieve that cutting-off-your-circulation-but-man-check-these-out-this-is-minnie-this-is-mickey look.I`m still scarred from previous comments when I was a kid.Note to boys: Yelling out "You`re so flat,the walls are jealous!" will not help you score with chicks.I remember one time when I heard that,I thought the boy had said jello instead of jealous and I was puzzled for a long time. I saw Eyes Wide Shut..it was fun because we were "carded" going into the theatre and..that movie.I can`t explain it.Is it about sexual peversities,in different forms? I would say it`s more about monogamy than infidelity.("Well well,aren`t we just the little miss film thang!" "yes,yes we are")I dont understand that movie,really..but thats good,I think.I like the Chris Isaak song that`s in it.The single piano notes playing was very effective.It had me squirming in my seat...and the whole masque scene..ohh,how I wanted all those people to remove their masques,to see who it was behind.It is also a funny film..I giggled at many a part..especially the ballroom scene with the naked dudes dancing with those glamarous girls.Did anyone feel,that when the movie ended,the other people who were watching the movie stared at you? I felt like that.It was weird. However, >can people stop fancying Marcus Omond (3 votes and counting) as he's >getting >so loved up he's likely to explode :) Oh,but I think this Marcus deserves to be loved up! And this Geoff creature...my,the list is getting very lovely. Lisa from Australia..you know,you`re lucky to have your name in Belle and Sebastian songs..I keep hoping one day they will use mine.It could be a funky song,about a girl who goes snow-shoeing.I squeal at the sight of my name in things..i dont know,it gives me joy.There`s an Auteurs song called The Childbrides with my name in it,but thats about all. "genevieve in union with holy communion" yeah,I can dig it! LesleyJo was pondering posing nekkid in tigermilk-reanactment cover,and made me think of things,..ok,does anyone on this work at a film processing place? What happens with naked pictures (oh shush up,I know the Tigermilk cover isnt a full naked one already)because some people I know took pictures of all their bums while they were mooning somebody and they never got the negative or the picture back,it was totally gone.Whats up with that? I can just imagine some of the pictures bored couples must bring in.I dont think I would continue the developing either. toot toot! lots of love, prom girl (who has some questions on all these exclusive B&S tracks but will talk about them later) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Etheriel99 at xxx.com Fri Jul 23 05:12:26 1999 From: Etheriel99 at xxx.com (Etheriel99 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:12:26 EDT Subject: Sinister: The do's and dont's of amateur photography... Message-ID: <61f3b494.24c945aa@aol.com> Hullos, In answer to Genevieve's post about what happens to naked pictures in photo shops, a friend of mine works at Black's photo shop ( here in Canada) and she's seen quite a few. The funny bit is that naked pictures get laughed at and stuff by the employees; the staff at her Black's is quite relentless and unsympathetic. It's kind of frightening really, because she's told me that employees have made doubles of certain pictures for their own amusement -- it might make you think twice about just how personal these photos are. However, here's where the trouble begins. Naked pictures, I believe, are not okay and either are pictures of, how can I put this, people having sex: they are considered pornography and cannot be reproduced as it goes against Canadian legislation ( or something to that effect). There was an incident that actually happened at Black's where someone managed to snap what Black's considers to be pornographic material -- a third party was suspected to have taken the photo or one of the parties involved had really good aim. Unfortunately the all too happy couple received only about half of the photos from the film. Black's could not reproduce the pictures. I think they just throw the negatives out and don't bother charging you. I guess the same might apply with full frontal shots and bottoms. But this leads me to question: if adult bottoms aren't allowed in photos, then why are baby bottoms? So in conclusion: buy yourself a Polaroid camera. But having a friend who works at Black's can also be quite useful. Free film developing, discounts galore and last month Veronica ( same as the girl in Expectations except she's not fat and is missing the lisp and work's at Black's) and I went crazy photocopying the B&S button pictures from the Select Magazine article so that we could make our own. We bought a button kit and everything and ended up using around $200 in photopaper. We've yet to get the chance to sport our rather expensive B&S buttons ( we made 8, sadly I lost one though at a concert. So if anyone found one by accident in the Opera House, it�s mine!!!) and get questioned about them. I hope we're not infringing upon some copyright law. Oh well, try and find me!!! I'll burn the proof before you get to me!! Okay that's enough. I'm off now. Take care everyone. Hugs and Ladybugs, Cindy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From viable_itch at xxx.com Fri Jul 23 05:40:58 1999 From: viable_itch at xxx.com (Christopher Mayo) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 21:40:58 PDT Subject: Sinister: A sleep kisser...a pretty waltz Message-ID: <19990723044059.52801.qmail@hotmail.com> I have to agree whole-heartedly with this assertation about erica's list pic; in fact I think the blurryness(?) of the picture makes her even more attractive - ,ysterious or something. Who knows... No real poin to this just a wee virtual pilgramage for some worthy beauty... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Fri Jul 23 08:11:17 1999 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 03:11:17 EDT Subject: Sinister: "The twist was my move! I invented the twist!" Message-ID: <7c43343e.24c96f95@aol.com> Sorry to all you non-Seinfeld fans for the subject title. That show was so brilliant...alas it is gone, a rose scented memory of yesteryear. Sigh... I saw Looper tonight in DC tonight and they were absolutely great. They were sooooo much better live than on record, pretty much because of Wee Karn's great little films and Ronnie Black's fab photos. Speaking of Karn's little films, I noticed something very awesome during "Up a Tree Again." If anyone's read the "Little Ink Movies of Belle and Sebastian," in it Stuart D. describes a scene where he filmed Beans Geddes dancing in Central Park for 8 minutes before his film ran out. When they played that song I noticed a foppish sort of fellow in huge flares dancing in a park on the film...then I spied a beautiful girl with ponytails sitting Indian style right near by and a short girl dressed in all black sitting on a branch of a tree. As the camera got closer I realized it was Beans, Sarah and Isobel in Central Park! Whoo hoo! I was so proud of my discovery I was moved to tell MadFlwr (Lee) who I ran into there (I'm sorry if I made you miss anything and I hope NYC was fab). Another B&S sighting: after their main set, Stuart came back on and said they hadn't anything else to play for an encore because they'd ran out of drum machines or something, so instead he broke out the guitar and played "Winter Wooskie." It was just his brother playing guitar and he singing. I liked it quite well. He kept remarking how much they liked the Air and Space Museum the whole time. We waited afterwards to talk to him, but even an hour and half after their show they were still nowhere to be seen so we split. Some other day I suppose. It was also great fun to meet all the lovely Sinister folk who made it out to the show and met up beforehand. Mike and Erica (not Scarlet) were very nice and Hershel was aces too. Probably one of the most polite people I've ever met actually. I know there were a handful of other people there as well but these were the only ones I talked to for very long, and the only ones who's name I caught (and held on to). I'm sure everyone else was lovely as well. My friend and I almost made an 11h hour decision to accompany Lee to NYC to see Looper again on the 23rd but we couldn't get off work so we had to cancel. Anyone who goes to the show please remember me when they play that clip of Chris dancing so's maybe I won't feel so lonely bagging groceries for rude old women. I also made a decision tonight and I need some help and opinions regarding it. I think when my year at the university lets out next Spring I'm going to go on a backpacking tour of the UK and Ireland. Either that or get a flat for awhile, hopefully in Glasgow or Edinburgh. Does anyone think they'll be needing a flatmate/traveling buddy next Spring/Summer? Does anyone know someone who does? Does anyone have any recommendations? Well its kind of late so I think I'm off...yeah I am Steve C. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk Fri Jul 23 08:36:08 1999 From: pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk (Pamela Hutchinson) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:36:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Done a bad bad thing Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From guile at xxx.br Fri Jul 23 09:24:32 1999 From: guile at xxx.br (Guilherme Barrella) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 05:24:32 -0300 Subject: Sinister: Fuck! I'm useless! Message-ID: <379826BA.953E8545@telnet.com.br> I'm useless........ I'm sorry to send this to the list but I am....... I just got home and I'm drunk and I'm useless............ I don't love anyone, I don't love anything, not even Christmas, especially not that.......... Fuck (I'm sorry).............. I'm down to the bottom............ kill me please......... please, kill me................. i'm a loser baby, so why don't you kill me? I'm sorry.......... I love you all.............. gui or gooey or goo or loser......... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brightnessfalls at xxx.com Fri Jul 23 09:51:45 1999 From: brightnessfalls at xxx.com (Honor Fraser) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 01:51:45 PDT Subject: Sinister: hope u liked my little card! Message-ID: <19990723085146.61746.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello babies I'm a new lass on this list and I must say I'm loving every minute of it.Hope you guys liked the little cute card I sent ya:):) Just a token of appreciation There's just such a community here that you don't get in the real world- it really does warm the cockles of my heart. This is just a short hi-de-ho posting and also a burning question that unfortunately is not B&S related (well only distantly really- sorry 'bout that). What does anyone know about the Tindersticks' Black Sessions? Oooh look at the time, see you later sugarplums Honor Tennant ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Jul 23 12:05:33 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:05:33 +0200 Subject: Sinister: 10 Roddington Place Message-ID: <01bed4fb$48fa5e00$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Solitary brothers, solitary sisters, I'm completely drunk too. You big nellies! Haven't you ever been hunted in the woods at night? Pah! Lightweights! I don't need to see that "Blair Peach Project" film. I've lived it, man. Same goes for "Notting Hill", but I went to see that one anyway. Very funny, I enjoyed it a lot. Spike reminded me of you, in fact. "Arse Wide Shut" hasn't opened here yet, but I've seen the trailer. I think there's some kind of monkey business afoot. Genevieve, your deft analysis of the film's theme coincides with that of my favourite source of Thai news, "The Economist". So you must be right. Mind you, they say the ending of "2001" is hopeful. It scares the shit out of me. So does the book I'm reading, a weighty tome about Mars. I'm fwightened. I know that the chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one, but still they come. Have you seen the size of that canyon? It is beyond my ken. Lots of stuff about nutty astronomers, like Paul Mitchell. Paul believes that Mars is irrigated by a complex system of underground sprinklers operated by The Clangers on acid. Loads of people believe the moon landings were faked. I know they weren't faked because I was there, man. Famously, an old Basque woman claimed that it was impossible for men to have been to the moon, because they would have fallen off. Only flies can go to the moon without falling off. What a nice old lady! Bless her woolly socks! And bless Jah Wobble too. Perhaps Mister McRagtag would like to set up a Wobblecam so we can all keep an eye open for Jah. That John Waters book "Crackpot" is great, you should ask for it at your local library. Any list of B&S covers is sadly incomplete without reference to Mad Dog Murdoch's legendary cover of Lulu's "To Sir With Love", from the Sidney Poitier film of the same name. I think this was before Rhode Island, before Lisa Hobbles the Blind, before Belle and Sebastian. I think this recording is shaping up to become the new B&S Holy Grail now that "Tigermilk" is so readily available. Speaking of Lisa, she wrote: It is really strange having one of your favoutite bands sing songs with your name in it. I don't know, does anyone else share this feeling?? Yes, I do. love from, Sister Disco xxx PS: Apologies to anyone I owe a reply to, I'm far too drunk to do it at the moment. I am in the enviable position of owing replies to almost the entire line-up of DROOLZ. PPS: Oon, or someone in Oon's family, OWNS A SCOOTER! Just like the Ace Face's from "Quadrophenia". I've seen it in a photo. Oon's trying to hide it with a baby, but I can still see it. I bet Oon cruises the streets of Bangrak on it, looking for rockers to rumble with. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peter.ramsdale at xxx.com Fri Jul 23 12:28:26 1999 From: peter.ramsdale at xxx.com (Pete Ramsdale) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:28:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Who's That On The Bill, Then? References: <199907221603_MC2-7DEF-8C96@compuserve.com> Message-ID: <379851DA.DB98E5FB@wdr.com> David Moore very kindly said: >Secondly, for the message about Roger Daltrey being on the Bill in June: >its actually tonight, & yes, I will record it for Mr Miller :) Anybody see it then? I did. Well, bits of it at least, inbetween remastering my mate's Manic Hedgehog Radiohead tapes on Cool Edit Pro. Now, I'm no authority on what constitutes a good acting performance, or a bad one, for that matter, but from what I saw, Sister Disco's premier pop idol did himself proud. Either that or the poor bloke actually *is* a drug-addled nutcase. Anyway, moving swiftly towards a thread of conversation with a more on-topic bent (just in case List Mummy bollocks us for talking about tellyvishun programmes again), I was one of the few people on the list to hear Tigermilk for the first time in it's spanking-new digital format. I know, I know, shock, horror, cor blimey guvnor, stone the crows, christ-on-a-bike, shite-and-onions and all that. It's just that before I joined the list I happened to know of precisely sod-all people with even a three-hundred-and-somethingth generation scratchy analogue copy, and by the time I joined the list I already knew of its impending re-release, so it seemed a bit rude (and possibly a tad pointless) to ask. Well, unsurprisingly enough, all that waiting was absoblimminlutelymostdefinitely worth it. I don't think it has taken over from IYFS as my fave yet, but that's possibly because I have listened to the latter a lot more over a much longer period of time. One of the main things I wanted to do in this mail was to throw in my two-penneth into the gushing fountain of debate that is Electronic Renaissance. Does anyone else think that ER cements the comparisons between B&S and the Field Mice?? What I mean is that both use(d) fragile guitar-pop as their mainstay, and now I realise that they both at one point or other have done a small bit of quite similar electronicky synth-driven buggering-about. I think the Field Mice track in question is "Missing the Moon". Not sure about this, cause I haven't got a copy of the CD with me, but there is definitely at least one of their tracks that shuffles off in the same musical direction as the much-maligned, side-one-ending Tigermilk track. Just an opinion, of course, but it makes perfect sense to me. Also, I can't help feeling that bits of ER are quite similar to Sleep the Clock around. Discuss. Here endeth another epistle to the apostles, lol p xx. -- -----------------------------*||*-------------------------------- "Reality never seems to work out quite the way you want it to..." Pete Ramsdale - Unix Systems Administration, Warburg Dillon Read Phone: 0171 568 3836 -----------------------------*||*-------------------------------- This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Fri Jul 23 13:48:44 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:48:44 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Making friends in the playboard Message-ID: Hi listerines and listerettes! I had a break in my only-work existence and went to see the Lucksmiths with my Sinister Athenian guests.It is curious that is my first experience as hostess to some Sinister seeing the outer world without eye-patches and they were Greek ,being myself Spanish, as the Spanish word for host is 'Anfitrion' -> pay attention, Miss Clarke, who must be burning London! which is taken straight away from Plato's works.(He is the one offering 'The Banquet' obviously) After this classical reference I just discovered in my waiting hours to see some results arising from my programs and that I wanted to share with all of you to show I am one of those people who wore eye-patches during school-days and had a civil war with her mum in order not to wear orthopaedic boots because that was too much.That's why I learnt all these little things while the trendy clique was outside smoking and swapping smutty mags,and according to Nikki's superiors I have achieved Stuart's child status. The Lucksmiths turned out to be a little monotonous in the end, probably because they were not exactly my cup of tea.Too 'beachey', well, they come from Surfland, or too comedian-like.I liked really ,however, some song maybe titled 'Untidy towns'.It would make a great title,yes,sir.Apart from socialising with our Hellenic embassy, they three absolutely lovely, we also met Lee-fountainhead who just arrived to the list a couple of weeks ago and plays the most Mary Joesque of instruments with The Chemistry Experiment.The third band are also locals, their name Airport Girl and they were the discovery of the night to my eyes.With a trumpeter... Mick is the most influential! So John and Dafne and Vassa are on the way to Edinburgh and I suppose, Watson, you will take good care of them and I will meet them in perfect state as I passed them into your hands next Saturday at the Mega-boomboom-Giga-spastic-Picnic. Are we going to enter the Guiness as the most crowded Sinister picnic ever or not? Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk Fri Jul 23 13:57:22 1999 From: pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk (Pamela Hutchinson) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:57:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: surely not? Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From pcxas at xxx.uk Fri Jul 23 14:21:32 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:21:32 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Mark Blair Dario Casarotto? Message-ID: Did he win a Nobel Prize and was Italian????Say yes and I would have won! A. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Fri Jul 23 14:19:51 1999 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 06:19:51 PDT Subject: Sinister: nothing to say. Message-ID: <19990723131951.70447.qmail@hotmail.com> Is it lame to say that I shed a tear while watching Gene live at ilosaarirock last weekend? Ok, I was tattered, but still. Beautiful, it was. Thats it. How useless a post. @--->--- Jace le petit. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Fri Jul 23 14:29:43 1999 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:29:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: surely not? Message-ID: <802567B7.004A236E.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> >could he be called mark blair DORFMAN casarotto? >or mark blair DAVIDHARE casarotto? >Both very cool, but slightly unusual >I give up I don't. I go for Mark Blair DARIOFO Casarotto. Or could it be Mark Blair DYLANTHOMAS Casarotto, if he counts. 'Nikki's superiors' indeed. Tsk Arantxza - you have just been docked several points on my 'who's best on Sinister' scoring chart. It's like a crush tally only more complex algorithms are involved. If you're not careful I may stop calling you the lovely Arantxa. Talking of luvverly gurls, erica's photo isn't really completely out of focus to flatter her or anything - she really is all blurry. Oh, that's in a Woody Allen film, isn't it? I am working for my inferiors again on Saturday, so will miss another picnic. Has anyone got a mobile phone I can ring to find out where everyone is at about 6 o clock? I would get one myself, but I fear I would be unable to overcome a childish urge just to shout 'BUY! BUY! SELL!' down it all the time. Nick xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Fri Jul 23 14:41:17 1999 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:41:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: It's no picnic Message-ID: <802567B7.004B31CC.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> I got confused. There is no picnic tomorrow. And I'm away the weekend after. So there'll be no nikki for you at all. Sorry. You can all give me your mobile phone numbers all the same, though. N. xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jimgrund at xxx.fr Fri Jul 23 14:47:35 1999 From: jimgrund at xxx.fr (Jan Imgrund) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:47:35 +0200 Subject: Sinister: black sessions In-Reply-To: <19990723085146.61746.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <199907231348.PAA25652@front4.grolier.fr> Hello Honor asked > What does anyone know about the Tindersticks' Black Sessions? and that's a very good question... someone mentioned it ages ago on the list and I wanted to comment, but I just forgot. Thanks for remembering me.. If someone wants to change tapes: I've got all kinds of tinder- rarities, except this black session.. but not a lot of rarities from other bands. Oh yes, the "Jacques" side-project of Jack, if someone is interested. Regards, Jan The Dark Site of the Moon: http://perso.club-internet.fr/jimgrund/index.html Tindersticks page: http://perso.club-internet.fr/jimgrund/tinderpage/tinder.html To love oneself is the beginning of a lifelong romance. -Oscar Wilde +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From macarthur at xxx.com Fri Jul 23 15:01:48 1999 From: macarthur at xxx.com (Graham MacArthur) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:01:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I'm so Pretty, didn't you hear? Message-ID: Darling(s), > I have to agree whole-heartedly with this assertation about erica's list > pic; in fact I think the blurryness(?) of the picture makes her even more > attractive - ,ysterious or something. Who knows... Like Shania Twain, that don't impress me much. She's a proper minx, you know. She wears a full length animal print coat *in the dessert*, complete with gloves and high collar. I'm going to have to get a more realistic photo - or else clock the next person that writes to the list saying how great I am. Listen up! I'm not, there will NOT be a throne built for me at the next picnic. I don't glow. I have split ends. I never take my library books back on time. I break hearts. I squeeze the toothpaste from the middle and never do my chores. You hear me? Now stop all this nonsense. Meet me in person, I'll do my Loyd Grossman impression and I promise never again will the words "beauty" and "Erica" be used in the same sentence. No, 12 Reasons Why by My Life Story was NOT written about me. (though wouldn't that be super). Talking of meeting me in person, you shall all be coming to the fucking-great-big picnic on the 31st of July on primrose hill. No, it wasn't a question. See the light! vote for Geoff, god damn! he's such a pretty thing.. Erica x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ooon at xxx.th Fri Jul 23 13:02:31 1999 From: ooon at xxx.th (oon) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:02:31 +0700 Subject: Sinister: cruising for bruising Message-ID: <379859D6.A110AF1B@samart.co.th> Mr Mike and Mr David, thank you for those fascinating Thai news report. i trust you didn't make it up, did you? i know the King is a big jazz musician/fan. but that record i went looking and never find anywhere. the King's songs are lovely indeed. he wrote quite a few long times ago. very popular when i was little. everyone knows them, even my father who still speaks Thai with big Chinese accent trying to pretend he's foreigner or something. the King never forces us to listen at all. they are very good songs and very likable and can be conveniently sung in any occasion. that rainmaking aircraft is his work too as far as i remember. to help the farmers when there's no or not enough rain. and sometimes to help us city people when the weather is too hot. i hope you can stomach another Thai news report. Bangkok Post last last Sunday(i'm busy) says that in Czech Tv "Nova Tv" there's this amazing weather show. amazing because the weather girl/boy will be smiling nakedly at the viewer while an announcer tells the viewers about the weather. then the weather girl/boy will start to put on cloth according to the forecast weather. apparently to show viewer who might not know what clothes is appropriate for such and such weather. what a thoughtful and nifty idea. it also says their rating goes up the roof. well done. another news from the same newspaper is also about a forecast. kind of a top ten millenium poo forecast. the scariest one says that people in Washington DC will go raving mad due to explosion of tremendously stinking smell from the bowel of hell. DC people, if this really happens please try to push away your raving madness for a few second in order to report to the list how smelly that smell is. or you can escape to Thailand. i, on behalf of every Thai on the list, should take this opportunity to express welcome to all millenium refugees. Mr Miller talked about my niece and me photo. which i hope will be up some time when Miss Honey is ready and willing. i have a very cute niece so forgive me for showing her off in such unashamedly manner. Mr Miller, that scooter is an ancient silver Vespa, who has been with my father longer then me. the Vespa is his favourite way to get around the city. even at his old age. we can't stop him due to his demonstation of pain whenever he has to drive car. so it's him who does the cruising and the rumbling. not me. :) have a lovely weekend everyone, oon xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stugardiner at xxx.com Fri Jul 23 16:54:46 1999 From: stugardiner at xxx.com (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 16:54:46 BST Subject: Sinister: More musings on life in the slow lane Message-ID: <19990723155446.27370.qmail@hotmail.com> Well I can't think of any songs with my name in, but Mrs Murdoch (formerly of this parish) did name her son after me... So did anyone actually go to this picnic yesterday then? I haven't seen any reports yet... I was going to go, but I decided I'm too poor. I'm also now officially unemployed, I got my P45 this morning. Although it didn't stop me going to a gig the other night, by a wonderful band called 'The Frames'. They sound a bit like Superstar at times, and at other times like anything from Mercury Rev to Nirvana. And they're almost completely indescribable, which has got to be a good thing, right? Out of the 40-or-so people who'd paid to see them, at least a quarter were queueing up at the end to buy a CD off the singer. Despite the fact that their drummer hadn't made it to the gig, so their driver played instead (remarkably well as it happened). Check them out... (I think they're playing London next week sometime). One other thing that's been bugging me. In our local friendly supermarket, they have brand spanking new electronic tills. And when one of them is not in use, a message scrolls accross from one side to the other: 'Goodbye hope to see you again'. All very welcoming, I'm sure you'll agree. Except that whenever I'm feeling a bit miserable and lonely (eg a couple of hours after being dumped not that long ago), all I see when I look up is 3 or 4 tills bearing the message 'Goodbye hope'... Big Stu (Shocked by the amount of money he's having to pay for an Australian visa...) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marcusomond at xxx.com Fri Jul 23 17:03:35 1999 From: marcusomond at xxx.com (Marcus Omond) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:03:35 PDT Subject: Sinister: tomorrow's weather Message-ID: <19990723160336.67391.qmail@hotmail.com> hi there, Oon said: i hope you can stomach another Thai news report. Bangkok Post last last Sunday(i'm busy)� says that in Czech Tv "Nova Tv" there's this amazing weather show.� amazing because the weather girl/boy will be smiling nakedly at the viewer while an announcer tells the viewers about the weather.� then the weather girl/boy will start to put on cloth according to the forecast weather.� apparently to show viewer who might not know what clothes is appropriate for such and such weather. what a thoughtful and nifty idea.� it also says their rating goes up the roof.� well done. indeed, this is true. every day (well, more night) at around ten thirty you can watch the pocasicko (pronounced pochaseechko) (i think that's what it's called but i'm hungover and i've forgotten my czech), literally translated as 'little/ dear weather'. this involves porn film music while a starkers girl/ boy comes on and rather than doing the usual porn thing of taking off clothes seductively she/ he puts them on. you can tell when it's about to be on because czech tv isn't very sophisticated, and so when a film gets cut off halfway through the credits and adverts for those phone lines that i honestly can't believe anyone calls (does anyone?) start to play you know that it's not too long until the weather. and it's at a very convenient time, because you can watch it just before you go out for the night. but sometimes they put on a badly dubbed porn film instead, and that's not so good - czech isn't the sexiest of languages. 'pocasicko' is quite a fun idea, but i can't imagine it working with the british weather forecast - who wants to see michael fish naked? ulrika jonson used to be a weathergirl, didn't she? that wouldn't have been so bad. oh, my favorite pocasicko girl was called vera. which reminds me of the girl in prague called vera who wanted me to marry her in a rush to save her from being deported. but that's another story... ok, that's the smuttiest post i've done, so i'm blushing now. back to bed, i think, to nurse last night's excesses. 'never again' again. thinking it's a sin that i have to leave the house at all (but we need some milk), Marcus XXX ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Fri Jul 23 18:24:39 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:24:39 EDT Subject: Sinister: looper last night Message-ID: Well. first off, the show was amazing. For openers, there was the Sigfried and Roy of the techno community. One of them, i think it was DJ Sigfried, hauled some poor girl on stage and made her dance. He was a scary man; in fact he stripped down to his nasty pants and danced around. thankfully he felt the need to put trousers back on. Then Looper played, which made up for the oddities of the opening act. The show was soooooo good, with the videos. Like steve c, i noticed the ink polaroid movie. Chris appeared to be wearing a stocking cap, right? and the tree branch hung close to the ground... was anyone else blown away by how good not-so-wee karn's statues were? She allegedly made all the little figures seen in the films.. i will never forget, as long as i live, the image of stuart wearing those light-goggles to read his lyrics! ahhh, if only i had taken pictures i have only two complaints, one minor and one that vexed me deeply. First, I didn't see any merchandise for sale. That was no good... i wanted to get a tshirt. but that's not a big deal. Secondly, NOT ONE sinister person came up and talked to me. It wouldn't have been hard, I was wearing a sign on my back that said "Sinister" and i was standing right up front, near the second TV from the left, about 3 people back. I was the tall fellow in the black Michael Bolton shirt with the beard looking pissed There was one other person dancing, and she kindly told me i knew what was up, since i was dancing. I saw a girl with short reddish hair in a blue shirt, who i think may have had an inverted badge, but I couldn't tell in the dark. I think she thought i was staring at her chest. So if you're on this list, sorry. I was just trying to figure out if you were sinister or not. I know i should have gone to the Fox and hounds first, but we got so lost on the way there we barely found the Black Cat. I had to pay a bum 30 cents for advice on whether or not i could park up the street. That was nice... so a big pah! to the listees who felt the need to shun me. although one of you was nice enough to post directions to the sinisterdc list on how to get there. sadly i had already left by that point. my faith in humanity has been crushed dave jygsaw +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Fri Jul 23 19:02:07 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:02:07 PDT Subject: Sinister: Pool boys! Belle and Sebastian videos! Message-ID: <19990723180209.61573.qmail@hotmail.com> Good morning Sunshines, Oh dear..is it nearly afternoon? I sleep in a little to late I fear.Yes,its a weekday as well,I know that makes you want to throttle me. I think my favourite anagram of Tigermilk (trademark David Moore) is "K Girl Time!" sounds like a rap album. Many moons ago,we were talking about feminism..you know I`m not that sexist really.I was looking at my cds and tapes to see if I had many girl bands and I had tons of Salt n Pepa,TLC and En Vogue.Oh shut up.At least you can move to them.We were also talking about how this list influenced us,musically,oh my,oh yes! Well,since I was wee,I`ve always liked Motown,but the other stuff has changed rapidly. 10 years old:U2,Lenny Kravitz (that "Are You Gonna Go My Way" song was me and my boyfriends SONG),En Vogue.11 years:En Vogue,TLC,Salt N Pepa. 12 years:brief flirtation with La Bouche,("Wanna Be My Lover")Oasis,Pulp. 13 years:Oasis,Blur,Pulp,Ash,Suede. 14 years:Suede,Belle and Sebastian. 15 years:"Who are all these people they keep talking about on this Sinister mailing list?" and currently:well,you know,those freaking 60`s french pop stars!More scottish bands! Hefner!Love of Motown increasing even more! *sniff* Thankyou..thank you very much..you`ve guided me to many a places I would not have ventured.You`ve also improved my grammar and spelling...1,2,3...awwwww. Lately,I`ve been finding myself in the mood for music that makes you get up and dance.The summer does that you know..back of neck getting dirt and gritty,etc. Cindy kindly helped out voyeuristic inquiries: >But having a friend who works at Black's can also be quite useful. Hmmm.Blacks has some very attractive and pleasing to the eye employees working for them...gentle Sinisterines,what should I do? Should I let this boy know that I like him by taking nekkid photos holding signs saying "Hey Black`s guy,I like you!" Tee hiddly hee! I wonder if Thai news, "The Economist" needs me? I can talk more about sexual peversities and infidelity versus monogamy till the cows come home.I could even throw in a couple of "Well,its metaphor for life,you see..." Has anyone seen RUN LOLA RUN? Its viagra for the eyes,apparently. I was listening to a most lovely of live tapes last night...The Bowlie Weekender! Oh that little devil Stuart,he teases! And I`m sure I heard some of you talking and laughing,or maybe even coughing! Lots of delightful accents,and again..is it possible..my yearning for Bowlie again. I guess I have Bowlie Envy.I saw a postcard of Camber Sands as well...mmmmm....what delish imagery.They should have a Bowlie in July when its HOT HOT HOT. Struan,Mick and StuD will be Pool Boys #1,#2 and #3.In loincloths,naturally.Serving my fancy fancy drinks with umbrellas in them.Pina Coladas! That way,Pool Boy #1 can turn to me and sing "If you like pina coladas.. and getting caught in rain,if you`re not into yoga,if you have half a brain,if you like making love at midnight..." Ok enough rambling: BELLE AND SEBASTIAN VIDEOS. Let us speak plainly. I want THEM.There must be someone out there.We can trade stuff,I dont have much,but I can always send money? Heaven knows,its just gathering dust round here,I have to use it to light my cigars etc. A loving and hoping and nice, genevieve >PS: Apologies to anyone I owe a reply to, I'm far too drunk to do it >at the moment. I am in the enviable position of owing replies to >almost the entire line-up of DROOLZ. Sister Disco,that IS enviable.Have you seen some of the things Roolz are saying bout Droolz? Pigz! p.p.s Dammit boys,Erica is mine! MINE.So don`t be getting any funny ideas or else its ON.Heh heh,wondering if erica is reading this. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koogy at xxx.uk Fri Jul 23 18:36:46 1999 From: koogy at xxx.uk (andrew dean) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:36:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V3 #243 References: <199907231257.GAA18544@turtle.esosoft.net> Message-ID: <3798A82E.9C9BCAE3@clara.co.uk> general stuff, not much of it about b&s > Apologies twice. Firstly about the duff gen about The Flaming Lips, it was > of course The Flaming Stars on John Peel on Tuesday night. BUT the flaming lips are in session this coming wednesday night. don't know if it's a repeat or not though. > Secondly, for the message about Roger Daltrey being on the Bill in June: > its actually tonight, & yes, I will record it for Mr Miller :) stranger than roger daltrey on 'the bill' had to be brian may on 'the sky at night' a couple of weeks ago, talking to good old patrick moore about the upcoming eclipse. > In answer to Genevieve's post about what happens to naked pictures in photo > shops, a friend of mine works at Black's photo shop... > Naked pictures, I believe, are not > okay and either are pictures of, how can I put this, people having sex: they > are considered pornography and cannot be reproduced as it goes against > Canadian legislation ( or something to that effect). i know someone who worked at kodak here in the uk and they had to not only confiscate the pictures but record the names and addresses involved for passing on to the police. sounds very gary glittery. so, yes, buy a polaroid or a digital camera. next time i move house the change of address cards are all going to be in the style of those prostitute cards you see in london phone boxes 8) um, that's probably not wise - what if they fall into the wrong hands? pete miller (no! we will not let you go...) > Paul believes that Mars is irrigated by a complex system of > underground sprinklers operated by The Clangers on acid. i've been religiously taping the episodes of the clangers they've been repeated late at nights on channel 4 and i get within 4 episodes of a complete set and they go and release them all on video. arse. still, it's kinda good cos i missed series 1 episode 13 in which "The Clangers suffer from a shortage of consumer goods, but they prefer life that way." (which i think is the one with the machine that churns out plastic stuff until the cave fills up). Pete Ramsdale: > Does anyone else think that ER cements the comparisons > between B&S and the Field Mice?? but missing the moon was great and ER, er, isn't. oh, and that live version of 'in a nutshell' that someone has is probably from the manchester gigs (sunday night) rather than the night in glasgow when they did 5 covers or else recordings of the other 4 covers would be out there and i've not come across any (whereas i know that manchester tapes exist) and there's another song mentioned on the back (yes, 'on the back', not 'in the cd booklet' but 'on the back') of tigermilk. "Belle's most recent song is called Rag Day. Sebastian's is called The Fox In The Snow" handle in handle, andy johan, i sent the md back this morning +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ian at xxx.com Fri Jul 23 19:15:51 1999 From: ian at xxx.com (ian connelly) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:15:51 -0700 Subject: Sinister: cruising for bruising In-Reply-To: <379859D6.A110AF1B@samart.co.th> Message-ID: <199907231815.LAA10880@wired.com> At 07:02 PM 7/23/99 +0700, oon wrote: >Mr Miller, that scooter is an ancient silver Vespa, >who has been with my father longer then me. >the Vespa is his favourite way to get around the city. >even at his old age. we can't stop him due to >his demonstation of pain whenever he has to >drive car. so it's him who does the cruising and >the rumbling. not me. :) ahh! vespas! speaking of cruising and rumbling, some pals and i have a little scooter navy here in san francisco called 'the nice boys & girls skooter klub' - ostensibly formed to combat the various Very Snobby Secret Scooter Societies that are well established in this city....more on our little joke at http://www.divinia.com/nbgsk/ so yay for oon's dad (and oon, too, of course!)! scooters are easily the best and most suave way to get around in san francisco, too. (obLooper: i was really happy to see the lil scootering storyline at the looper show during 'ray suzuki.') cruising and bumbling, ian c +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ussher at xxx.ca Fri Jul 23 19:21:16 1999 From: ussher at xxx.ca (allen) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:21:16 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Sinister: Viagra for the eyes (is THAT how you use it?) In-Reply-To: <19990723180209.61573.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Genevieve Wesley wrote: > I wonder if Thai news, "The Economist" needs me? I can talk more about > sexual peversities and infidelity versus monogamy till the cows come home.I > could even throw in a couple of "Well,its metaphor for life,you see..." Has > anyone seen RUN LOLA RUN? Its viagra for the eyes,apparently. I've seen it and it is indeed viagra for the eyes. Not much substance, but a lot of fun. It has a great soundtrack too (viagra for the ears?). Makes me wonder...they should have a series of books called Viagra for the Soul ... it would contain lovely, heartwarming stories of complete strangers engaging in wild, uninhibited sex acts (pre-reserve your copy for your grandma today!). They'd make a killing I bet. Boohoo, another boring day at work -- somebody entertain me. Allen (ICQ: #35152981) -- "Long afloat on shipless oceans I did all my best to smile Till your singing eyes and fingers Drew me loving to your isle." -- Song to the Siren, Tim Buckley. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Fri Jul 23 19:59:40 1999 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Brian Pennington (Mick McMick)) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:59:40 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Looper Tonite, Good Vibrations, les Field Mices Message-ID: <3798BB9C.E968CCA9@ohiou.edu> Hi All, I hope all of you will be attending the Looper show tonight. I am quite excited, having not seen a good show for what seems like 2, possibly 3 weeks! Goodness. Not like in Ohio, where it's been...well over a year since I've seen an enjoyable live act. Anyway, if you'd like to say hi, I'm the boy who needs a haircut who is wearing a Moose shirt. Genevieve, I have to totally agree with your statement about Good Vibrations. In fact, there are times when I wish that they had just cut out the happy-happy chorus and simply left the bittersweet beginnings. Ah, luckily for me I brought the A-D part of my record collection to work today, so I can break out Smiley-Smile. At the moment I'm reading a book which is set both in 1963 and 1998. Anyway, the reason I pointed it out is that one of the characters is exasperated by the quality of the radio in 1963. I hope he doesn't end up in 1998. The poor thing would go insane. He likes folk music and he can't put up with songs such as Big Girls Don't Cry-ey-ey (they don't cry). Fitting? Probably not. Despite the fact that Barnesandnobles.com lists the Field Mice as one of Belle & Sebastian's influences, I really don't think it's true. I'd be the happiest person in the world if it were, mind you. I think that the two are similar of course. But the similarity lies in similar influences. Er, I've been playing around with the idea of starting a onelist about the Field Mice, so I don't feel I have to gush about them here. Anyone keen on the idea besides me? Mick McMick at work +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SSharp5210 at xxx.com Fri Jul 23 20:06:57 1999 From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:06:57 EDT Subject: Sinister: Telephone Chat-lines Message-ID: <684dd0b7.24ca1751@aol.com> Hi popetts. The delightful Marcus was wondering if anyone calls these telephone chatty things....I called one in a state of desperation about a year ago.We were playing a recreational game at Murrayfield Ice Rink and were short of numbers,then on tv comes an advert "Call to meet men who want to meet you"..If they lived locally and had skates I definitely wanted to meet them.It turns out that I had the wrong end of the stick though.The demon drink strikes again. Steve S xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ben-Walsh at xxx.com Fri Jul 23 20:27:09 1999 From: Ben-Walsh at xxx.com (Walsh, Ben) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:27:09 -0400 Subject: Sinister: FW: czech weather and belated replies Message-ID: <415C10091CFFD21193A50060083606C620D15B@msny2.nyc.fp.deshaw.com> > marcus said: > --- > indeed, this is true. every day (well, more night) at around ten thirty > you > can watch the pocasicko (pronounced pochaseechko) (i think that's what > it's > called but i'm hungover and i've forgotten my czech), literally translated > > as 'little/ dear weather'. this involves porn film music while a starkers > > girl/ boy comes on and rather than doing the usual porn thing of taking > off > clothes seductively she/ he puts them on. you can tell when it's about to > > be on because czech tv isn't very sophisticated, and so when a film gets > cut > off halfway through the credits and adverts for those phone lines that i > honestly can't believe anyone calls (does anyone?) start to play you know > that it's not too long until the weather. and it's at a very convenient > time, because you can watch it just before you go out for the night. but > sometimes they put on a badly dubbed porn film instead, and that's not so > good - czech isn't the sexiest of languages. > > 'pocasicko' is quite a fun idea, but i can't imagine it working with the > british weather forecast - who wants to see michael fish naked? ulrika > jonson used to be a weathergirl, didn't she? that wouldn't have been so > bad. oh, my favorite pocasicko girl was called vera. which reminds me of > > the girl in prague called vera who wanted me to marry her in a rush to > save > her from being deported. but that's another story... > --- > > it's all true, apparently, about pocasicko on nova tv, but i have to > disagree about czech not being a sexy language - in fact, i'm going out > with a czech girl called vera, although i don't think she's ever been > naked on czech TV. next year i'm hoping we can live in england but we're > trying to avoid getting married in a rush. > > anyway i have some apologies to make. i was sent a bunch of stuff ages ago > by a few people on this list (ben ferneyhough, a guy called jason and > someone else who i've forgotton). i really wanted to send you all > something interesting in return but i never got round to it. so please, > please please, if you know who you are - give me a shout and i'll send you > some top tunes. i'm thinking of some czech music, so please tell me > whether you want weird trip-hop (sort of portishead meets bjork) or old > blokes playing banjos. i have both sorts. > > B+S content: my mate here in NYC is getting all pissed off because he read > about the bowlie festival and he wants to have one too. it does sound much > better than woodstock anyway. is anyone going to that? i'm working in NYC > until october so if there's a picnic i will actually show my face and meet > the people i keep reading about!!! or if you live in NYC just mail me and > we can get the beers in - actually some very nice people did that and i > lost their emails. please email me again, i'm much more sociable in real > life than on this list! > > well, about my 2nd mail ever to the list. didn't go so bad i suppose. > > bye bye > > love > > ben > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Fri Jul 23 21:24:05 1999 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 16:24:05 -0400 Subject: Sinister: vogue bambini Message-ID: <04f001bed54a$3d931c60$b91e05d1@oemcomputer> anyways, it's waytoohot here in toronto, much too hot to be apartment hunting but that's what i'm doing anyways, in addition to paying college fees and listening to tigermilk. a girl with no shirt on? pah, that's nothing. just go to http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Styx/3733 to see the real stuff that happens under girl clothes. a digital camera is the ultimate solution for dirty photos. anyone know where i can get marlboro lights in toronto? anyone know of a song that mentions my name? in the interest of saving money i'm going to be heading to zeller's in the next few weeks to get things to outfit my first place (if you've been paying attention, i'm getting an apartment september first - if you haven't, a smack on the wrist to you). i think i've got a list of everything i need, but i just know there will be something that i've missed. if y'all could send me a list (big or small, all will be taken to heart) of things you either found indispensable or realised that you needed desperately when you got your first place, i'd very much appreciate it. and *don't send it to the list*, send it to tinystar at worldy.com and the world will be a better place. poo that i didn't see any sinisterines at the looper show, but it was just as well because i was sweaty and cranky and probably would have whined at you. but i'm up for an end-of-the-summer sinister picnic in the city. keep it in mind. 'tis all for now, as the popsicles are calling me. love and cherrykisses, jessicaxo * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * someone had spied on us, i suppose, as we sat beside the canal and ate the sandwiches, drinking not even orangeade or coca-cola but hot milk out of a thermos. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * t i n y s t a r @ w o r l d y . c o m (it's lovely being a girl) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Sat Jul 24 00:55:00 1999 From: rfadden at xxx.com (Robyn Fadden) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:55:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: A mile and a half on a Polish bus takes a long time... Message-ID: <19990723235500.2192.rocketmail@web122.yahoomail.com> Hello new tall elegant rich kids, All this talk of czech weather and soft-core pornography has inspired me to speak up and introduce myself... so here's a story: It was the end of February and I was on a bus in Poland the first time I heard Belle and Sebastian. The sun had finally come out after days of rain and I could lean my head against the window because for once it wasn't cold and dripping with condensation. I was leaving for the last time a town in the east where I had spent 3 months with a Canada World Youth group (lots of active citizenship, sustainable community talk, yes we will grow up to be good citizens, oh but the world can be nasty... It's another story alltogether, all about my early 20s and the cultivation of cynicism). Ten minutes out of town, the project leader (who is actually named Sebastien!) handed me a package from a friend, "oh, something came for you today", and inside were three tapes, and on the A-side of one was TBWTAS. When I heard "a mile and a half on a bus takes a long time�", I kind of jumped a little in my red polyester seat. When I heard "in a town so small there's nothing left to do�" I knew this music/listener relationship was meant to be. Usually not a walkman-obsessed person, I had those headphones on for B&S for the next week, sitting on buses for hours, writing in my journal in a hostel in the Polish mountains, flying home to Canada. So B&S came at a significant time in my life, became a kind of soundtrack music for closing a chapter and beginning a new one. Anyway, so now I'm in Vancouver and can�t stop listening to Tigermilk � I�just�can't� It's so good and whoever said it�s hard to listen to other music, I fully understand. I�m starting to return to the rest of my collection though, bit by bit. Oh, I too saw "Eyes Wide Shut". Saw it in a big new theatre with sloped seating so you don�t see anyone's head and the screen seems really really big (b/c it is�) Yes, it made me think, but then don�t you think about concepts of deception, fantasy/reality and truth/lies often and don't other movies also make you think of these things? Yes, but this was Kubrick and it was great to look at (no, not b/c everyone's naked, which they aren't. Geez, all the media fuss about nekkidness, I mean c'mon america, you're so porn it's not even funny.) Anyway, Nicole Kidman is really good � the movie should have been about her character more than Tom Cruise's (which is yer usual white, rich male being naive and power hungry, etc.) Anyway, lots to say about it, but this is a B&S place. It's good, it's worth seeing. But also see the movie "Rushmore" (which is now on video and I saw it yesterday) because it is sweet and weird and good. That's all the rambling for now. Have a good weekend everyone! I�m going swimming...! Back to "I could be dreaming" P.S. Hey nick, I will write back when I have more time. Plus, Vancouverites, where are you?!! Robyn === I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Vancouver, BC _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sburon at xxx.fr Sat Jul 24 11:45:05 1999 From: sburon at xxx.fr (Stephane) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 12:45:05 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Tindersticks black sessions Message-ID: <199907241049.MAA03558@front1.grolier.fr> Hello belle list... I'm so busy at the moment I can't even find the time to read your posts... However, I've just noticed a message by Jan about the Tindersticks Black Session. I checked in my tapes collection and... and... yes I'v got it!!! AND it was my birthday a few days ago, I got a new stereo set with a double tape player/recorder!!! So, If anyone's interested, just e-mail me privately: the Tindersticks played this session in april 1995, apparently (i havent listened to it for ages... but i guess the sound is pretty good!!!) Please, DON'T offer money, a tape with the Bowlie B&S set on the BBC would be just fine... (or anything you like, sweets, books, drawings, tigermilk bars...) Stephane -- http://www.chez.com/tweeclub +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From robhalcrow at lineone.net Sat Jul 24 14:10:13 1999 From: robhalcrow at lineone.net (robhalcrow at lineone.net) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 14:10:13 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Jaggerth,Jaggerth, All otherth ith Cag-maggerth.. Message-ID: <199907241310.OAA11211@boober.lineone.net> Hello there, It's vv hot, too hot. Not like in Glasgow where I spent a lovely week last week. (Tautology?) Everyone I met was very friendly, there was a lot to do and see. I want to go back. Nearly met the famous Ailsa .....but didn't. I did however meet the equally famous Richard 'Snow Patrol' Colburn and he was a top bloke. He chatted away about Bowlie, Tigermilk, Looper in the US, All Tomorrow's Parties. Warmed my cockles it did. So thanks to him, and thanks also to the everlovely Jeepster people for getting my Tigermilk out to me before I went away. I've just finished reading 'Glencoe' by John Prebble which is about the massacre of the MacDonalds in 1692. (Who was responsible? The Campbells? King William of Orange? The Master of Stair?) Anyway the name of the MacDonalds' bard that sat atop the mountains writing laments for his fallen kinsmen was Murdoch. Murdoch Matheson. I just thought that was appropriate. No? Alright then. How disappointed was I, having long ago won a competition on Xfm, to finally receive a Pavement CD through the post? 'Brighten the Corners'? I was expecting a footie video to sit alongside 'WBA- the throw-ins' and 'Bristol City- 20 glorious back passes'. (That's back passes, not passages, smut fans). Not funny? Alright then. I'll leave you to it. Only pausing to defend Mr D Moore's son by saying I too thought John Peel said The Flaming Lips would be on Tuesday. I reckon he read it out wrong. They are on this week anyway.... Oh, and go to the Ear Confection site which is very impressive. Bye bye Rob 'Since when was stalking a crime?'- Kenickie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From memon at xxx.com Sat Jul 24 13:58:40 1999 From: memon at xxx.com (A. Memon) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 13:58:40 +-100 Subject: Sinister: blatant advertising Message-ID: <01BED5DE.3C796FC0@host5-99-43-190.btinternet.com> hi to all 3000 of you, >> There is a member of Sinister called "A Memon", I'm dyslectic and so I thought the name read "A Melon", I laughed at that too when I released my mistake." - Robert Foster 19 July 1999 << thanks Rob, i shared your laughter too. yes thats me....i prefer lemon though. i like the zest. melons are way too large. lemons can be thrown at people without so much effort. what about mangoes? anyway, god knows what i was meant to be saying..... oh yeah, a little b&s phone-home related incident as told by my american friend kimberly: >>> i'm going to see Looper tonight in nyc. i hope it's a good show. i got the cd last week, and i like it, but i'm not sure how it will translate live. anyway.. it'll just be good to go to ny. i was asking "best of the brits" boy (his name's ryan) if he has ever seen belle & sebastian live, and he said, yeah. and when he was buying a t shirt, henry thomas (the boy from ET) was standing next to him asking him (ryan) which t shirt he thought he should buy. pretty neat, eh? i keep meaning to record his radio show for you but things seem to keep getting in the way every time....... <<< i dunno if there are any connecticut b&s fans out there, but what is "the best of the brits" radio show like. sorry, i dont even know what radio station it is on as there are billions out there in america. here in london you can count about 3 or 4 stations where they might play some b&s, but thats about it. and what else.... if anyone can personally get me off my ass/arse i will attend a picnic somewhere sometime....i keep meaning to, honest, but er, things keep getting in the way everytime. so, onto this monday, 26th july: there's this little loose ensemble i play with......the vertical smile ) you may have shot some heroin to a tune of ours called "a return to satisfy" (thats what someone told me its good for!!! hey, i dont advocate the use of drugs so sue him ok). that was on an earworm records double cd thingie...someone at trash said they really liked the electric sound of joy on disk one....so they hadnt heard disk two which is the side we're on! curse you electric sound of joy!!!! anyway - there's some club down kingley street just off beak street which is just off regents street..... The Tattybogle Club. If you want to come and see us, (and 2 or 3 other bands) we're onstage at 10:30pm. I usually play the drums live, and unlike the other members in the band, I dont mind being overtly social before the gig. they all seem to feel ill for some reason. the pressures of fame eh? oh, i saw the phantom menace for the 2nd time yesterday. i took my kid sister. she hates anything to do with star wars. she liked it, but thought it was very childish. i thought it was better the second time round. didnt have to worry so much about whether it was going to be good or not. its not bad, but you can leave your brain on the seat next to you whilst you watch it. here's my list of films to see in the future: the blair witch project (100% made up, but sounds convincing) summer of sam (spike lee) american psycho (mmm, chloe sevigny. not read the book yet) the virgin suicides (well, the book was good. sofia coppola directed this. she was a character called sache in the phantom menace too) fever (directed by alex winter. still havent seen freaked. this stars henry thomas too - by coincidence) ....well, that brings everything full circle... bless anyone who asks me to a (london) picnic. i admit it, going to one on my own is a little bit daunting. taping things of the tv to make my own tv themes tape, a m o s m e m o n PS If any one likes Dream City Film Club, we're supporting them at their next gig - August 5th at The Bull & Gate. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jthorniley at xxx.net Sat Jul 24 21:16:58 1999 From: jthorniley at xxx.net (James Thorniley) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 21:16:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Now we're photogenic Message-ID: <379A1F3A.871C7412@hedgehog.freehosting.net> (NOTE: This is a bit late arriving, because clever old me sent it to sinsiter at majordomo.net. I think that's quite an amusing name actually :-) Hi guys and gals. I've forgotten who it was, but someone wrote: > I have to agree whole-heartedly with this assertation about erica's list > pic; in fact I think the blurryness(?) of the picture makes her even more > attractive - ,ysterious or something. Who knows... This pissed off Erica, and she wrote: > I'm going to have to get a more realistic > photo - or else clock the next person that writes to the list saying how > great I am. Listen up! I'm not... Tut, tut, all yous who have posted Erica love-mail. You silly people, you'll just annoy women by doing this. You see, even though most women love being complemented on their looks, they don't like the idea that there is some bloke in a dark room with his head 3 inches away from a computer screen gawping at their digital visage (The Jennifer Lopez "If you had my love" video is misleading, would you believe it?). Maybe it's not so clever to put up photos of yourself where anyone can see them (no offense, Erica, I'm just saying). Some of you might say I'm a bit hypocritical there, since I've just sent my photo in, but I don't have to worry about anyone gawping at it. Anyhow, don't put your cross against Erica's name until I've got my mate Natalie on the list. Then you'll realise Erica isn't that great after all :-) Three more quick things: RE:Alpha ready lizard PeePees (Stephen Heister) I can't find a short qoute that seems right, so I'll just re-explain the gist of it briefly: Stephen whistle B&S as he goes around hoping that someone will recognise is and rush up to him, so happy to have found another B&S fan. I do that in school too, Stephen. Of course, it doesn't work, the closest I ever got was someone asking me what I was humming, when I told them, they just gave an "Oh, right". 2nd Thing: Steve wrote: >James Taylor is soooo good. Sweet Baby James reminds me of B&S in some >places. I agree. 3rd thing: Picnic on Primrose Hill (that Erica mentioned) I'd love to be there. I probably sound a bit stupid saying this (you know I'm a newbie). Are these picnics announced on the list? I must have missed it (I did lose a few day's worth of emails a short while back). Anyway, I would be very grateful if someone could just tell me where this Primrose hill is (I have a feeling I heard of one in/near London, but I imagine there are plenty of Primrose hills around the country). And maybe explain what these picnics are about. Thanks loads if you can help, sorry it was such a big mail again. -- James Thorniley I bet you're glad I've finished writing. I know I am. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i_love_moon at xxx.com Sat Jul 24 22:26:59 1999 From: i_love_moon at xxx.com (lover plays the bass) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 22:26:59 CEST Subject: Sinister: i'm certainly not pleased with my options for the future Message-ID: <19990724202700.96554.qmail@hotmail.com> poo! hey are there any japanese sinisters here? i just wonder if any, then if the odds are that (well they are against) anyone has the japanese version of Jim O'Rourke LOVELY (best record of the year so far accoridng to myself) "Eureka" album with the extra track "Little Island Walking", then please contact me! sorry for posting O'Rourke shit on the sinister list, i just couldn't hold myself! belle related (ahem!) >oh, and that live version of 'in a nutshell' that someone has is >probably from the manchester gigs (sunday night) rather than the night >in glasgow when they did 5 covers or else recordings of the other 4 >covers would be out there and i've not come across any (whereas i know >that manchester tapes exist) no, sorry, you're wrong. sorry but i have to admitt, i thought i might had foolen myself there for a bit but i'm actually more on track and more sure now. see, i've checked my facts, here are three points that shows the song is not from the manchester gig: 1) the song is in friends with two other tracks from that very same recording, being "slow graffit" and "middle distance runner" the person who made me the tape thought it was beat patrol. obviously, this wasn't the case cuz the sound is no where near as clear or studio-like as the beat patrol session is. also, we all know that "modern rock song" is the third track on that recording, not "in a nutshell". so my thoughts when elsewhere... 2) the manchester gig does not contain "slow graffiti" 3) it's not the same gig, I KNOW FOR SURE. so there reason i thought it might be the 13th Note gig is because it is known that the gig however was recorded in december 1997, which leads to how it got all mixed up with beat patrol. ahem... just because you haven't come across them yet doesn't mean that they were never done. i have never come across arab straps "bruce willis" recording, but i have looked for it for ages and i know it's out there (anyone on the list has it????!?!?!?), some recordings just never show up in the masses. sorry for wasting your time :-) johan, made in sweden (c) 1979 little.island.walking at hayfever.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Sat Jul 24 23:13:34 1999 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:13:34 -0700 Subject: Sinister: sinister world In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990724151334.009f3d50@mail.hooked.net> hmm... over time, there's been loads of talk of sinister picnics in various cities, looooooooper get-togethers, pajama parties, etc. i was wondering if there was a better way we could organize our locales in a centralized place - preferably somehow associated with our existing grande list. ideally, there would be a list of cities/countries people could associated their name and email with. not necessarily separate mailing lists or whatnot, but just a list of people based on location. even better would be a little map with pins in it for everywhere people are from and you could click on a pin/city, and see who's from there. it'd be great for travelling - a sinister map of the world. anyway, i'm kinda hosting the "sinister minstrels" list of bands/musicians/labels/djs, which BTW is at the URL http://www.therescuers.net/html/sinister-music.html (email me if you'd like to be added to the list too!), and maybe i could do some 'web stuff' to allow people to post their locations on a different page. i'd be super happy to let someone else (honey?) host it too, just as long as their website allows for perl scripts and whatnot. good idea? bad idea? i think the map part sounds nifty... :) (even if it'd be the hardest part to do). senor droolcup [ peacefully stamping about the globe ] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Sun Jul 25 00:56:59 1999 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:56:59 PDT Subject: Sinister: It Felt Like A Kiss Message-ID: <19990724235700.384.qmail@hotmail.com> I was at Looper, umm, however many days ago they were in DC. I got there so early I parked right in front of the club, so I could sit there and make loud revving sounds after the show with my one cracked muffler. The opening band was wonderful... "Khanh"... very camp and dancey, and one of the Khanhboys stripped during the show, then sang "Fever"... not the Madonna one, either. I was so excited I was tempted to do the same, as I had during the Atari Teenage Riot show (I didn't sing during that show, though- just repulsed lots of angsty teens running through the pit naked in a pair of motorcycle boots). But as soon as Looper started, I crashed out on one of the benches at the back of the club, only to wake up with a gaggle of tightly-wrapped birds peering over and wondering if it was worth it for them to check my vitals. One of them was wearing this stunning black-and-plum number I would have died to have ripped off of her. Unfortunately, not. But I did catch the very last song Looper played, after SD-Boot-Rocka apologized for having no more songs to play. And it was beautiful! Just fucking beautiful! Shit. I wish I'd slept more the night before, now. Oh- and "Crackpot" is soooo much better than any movie John Waters ever directed, too. Particularly the chapter on why he loves Pia Zadora. Anyway. Off to see the Magnetic Fields, now. HOOOOO HOOOOOO. I'm not bloated, I'm swollen with love. No one I know who deserves to see them is in town, and as for my housemate and the two sorority sisters who are visiting her, I have three words: Hard Rock Cafe. Fuck them. See you there, everyone, I'll be the one with the giant doe eyes mouthing every word. -Eran _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From glawler at xxx.ie Sun Jul 25 01:07:40 1999 From: glawler at xxx.ie (Gary Lawler) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 01:07:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Badabom dom dom Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990725010740.0085ad80@gpo.iol.ie> Chris Butler mentioned a Sinister Map of the World - methinks it's not a bad idea. It might become a veritable stalker's haven, but possibly a useful feature all the same for those that choose to use it :-) Oooh, I finally got around to getting Tigermilk - top stuff, but I was a bit miffed at the £15.99 price tag which I found stuck on every copy in every shop. From now on, I get my B&S CDs direct from the website (and I was hoping the CD would erase the memories of that icky Blur concert I went to so I could see dEUS. dEUS did a great set which it seemed the crowd didn't go for (I felt like I would have been beaten up if I moved to it), but the actual gig itself, it would appear, was a trauma so great that not even B&S can remove it from my mind. Argh!). Toodles! -- Gary Lawler ---------------- ICQ: 11115268 AIM: seclite369 ---------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Taranicole at xxx.com Sun Jul 25 02:47:59 1999 From: Taranicole at xxx.com (Taranicole at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 21:47:59 EDT Subject: Sinister: I'll take a nonfat double decaf belle and sebastian. Easy on the foam. Message-ID: Don't bore us, get to the chorus, they say and so I shall. THIS IS NOT A MEDIA HYPE Issue: Blair Witch vs. Eyes Wide Shut. Poor Jim Schmidt took a hiding for some of his criticisms for the a/m films, but c'mon cut the guy some slack, eh? We're all in this together,homeez. IMHO the movies were both swell yet flawed, but some of the reviews y'all posted (esp for the Witch one) .....pppsh!! Kinda like "Go to the cinema and your life will be changed!!!" So what happens here, is everyone reading about how pants-wettingly brilliant the film is goes to the see it and inevitably says, "hmm, kind of a letdown, wasn't it?" Oh nevermind.. we shouldn't be talking about this anyway, it's truly "Summer of Sam" which is The Movie of Sinisterines, not because it covers standard list-related topics as drug orgies and serial killers, but because a main character in the film is a nouveau-punk W!H!O! - obsessee. He practices his windmills in sync to "won't get fooled again" in his Townsend-shrine of a bedroom, and in the somber and spooky tone common amongst cult members he breathily enthuses, "Baba O'Riley is my favorite song." And the most climactic scene is played out against a soundtrack of the W!H!O! You know what this means, don't you. Obviously, the clandestine media have once again infiltrated our ranks, coopting thread topics to recycle for use in their own little creative outlets... Spike, my brutha, shame on you! I DON'T WANT YOUR... PHOTOGRAPH Issue: Rude pictures Someone was trying to figure out where to get some piccies of their naughty bits developed. This problem was recently posed to the incomparable Dan Savage in his weekly syndicated column, and the info his research yielded went a little somethin like this... If you take them to a large chain-operation, like Walgreen's or Safeway, they are usually sent to an off-site facility and processed by a machine. Another human will probably never even see the pictures. The person who said this *did* mention that random security checks were done, but in general you're not likely to run into problems. On the other hand.... If you take your pics to a place specializing in developing, like a one-hour Photomat place, they are indeed inevitably seen by a person, so you're more likely to get caught. So while I cannot attest to the veracity of either of these tidbits of info, I'm passing it along for you to exercise your personal judgment. COFFEE AND TV Did i tell you that I heard "Sleep the Clock Around" playing in Starbucks a few weeks ago?? I challenge you to describe a more serene lunch hour, than sat in the comfy environs of a sunny (albeit monopolizing, overpriced, corporate scum yeah yeah yeah i know) cafe, sipping a venti nonfat chai tea latte surrounded by the lulling sounds of your favorite band. *siiiiiiiigh* You couldn't do it, could you? you are my fire, my heart's desire, tara +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daftpunk at xxx.au Sun Jul 25 06:29:58 1999 From: daftpunk at xxx.au (Kin WOO) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 13:29:58 +0800 (WST) Subject: Sinister: (for the final time) WILCO!:) Message-ID: So sorry to bug you listees with another Wilco message:) Have just bought "Summer teeth" on the nice advice of the kind listees who tolerated my non B&S message and wrote back, and as they say, it's FANTASTIC! Yes it does "revitalize rock and roll" with it's Beach Boys esque summery melodies- a scorcher! Ok here's a request but, now I would absolutely love to get my hands on the more "country" album of theirs, "Being There", but am WAY too poor to afford it. Would any one be willing to tide me over with a high quality dub till I can afford the money (very long time from now!) to buy the album proper, I'd be much appreciated:) If you wanna trade, I can tape stuff for you as well- I've got tons of stuff, maybe some you are interested in- I've got tons of rare Tindersticks (all the albums including "Donkeys", plus a tape of all their early vinyl recordings up to 1995), Belly (again, lots of rare stuff), and gazilions others including Sparklehorse, Air, Andrea Parker, Black Box Recorder, Teenage Fanclub, Pulp, Beth Orton Beck, Lush, Garbage, Throwing Muses, One Dove, Dot Allison, Portishead,LOADS OF LIVE B&S, LIVE St Et, Palace, Hefner, Looper and so much more! ok hope to hear from some of you privately:) love Kin Woo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Sun Jul 25 08:44:51 1999 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 03:44:51 EDT Subject: Sinister: Well.... it looks like everybody was drunk last night by the posts... Message-ID: but I'm drunk tonight. Just listening to Tigermilk and the new Skip Spence tribute "More Oar" which I recommend to everyone on this list as well as the original new reissue on Sundazed. That's Alexander "Skip" Spence "Oar" ...so go out and get it. Interesting to hear that people will trust their candid naked bum shots to the local photo-mat. I prefer the Polaroid but rarely use it anymore which I know is a pity. "Tigermilk" has a cover which wouldn't be out of place on any of those chic-tongue-in-cheek perfume ads nowadays. Funny how all those ads showing a little nipple or whatever always show up in the women's magazines like Vogue, etc over the men's mags.. What gender puts those out really? I find many more risque pics in those over GQ etc... although I don't read those but have thumbed them at the occasional doctor or dentist office.... To get to my point, we have the LP in our record store window w/o a complaint for weeks. Maybe the world is changing? I'm rambling...the gin/juice is settling in.... Pete G. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LAWMIK00 at xxx.nz Sun Jul 25 22:24:47 1999 From: LAWMIK00 at xxx.nz (LAWRENCE CHARLES MIKKELSEN) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:24:47 +1200 Subject: Sinister: partyfearstwo Message-ID: <358A9A8462F@kinloch.ait.ac.nz> Has anyone heard B&S cover The Associate's 'Party Fears Two' from their wonderful album, Sulk? Perhpas a comprehensive list of songs B&S have covered would be in order. Also, can anyone give me a transcript of what Isobel says at the end of 'I Could be Dreaming'? It's been buggin' me. (or, for that matter, a transcript of Brett Anderson's rant at the end of 'Stay Together' would also be a treat.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ceryslover at xxx.com Sun Jul 25 22:29:17 1999 From: Ceryslover at xxx.com (Ceryslover at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 17:29:17 EDT Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe Message-ID: <61fe8561.24ccdbad@aol.com> unsubscribe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sun Jul 25 23:51:44 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 18:51:44 -0400 Subject: Sinister: More Digestive Problems Message-ID: <199907251851_MC2-7E43-B489@compuserve.com> Hi All, Silly old compuserve froze again, halfway through downloading digest #245: would some kind soul please forward me a copy. MTIA David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gabi77 at xxx.br Mon Jul 26 05:09:21 1999 From: gabi77 at xxx.br (Gabriela Sampaio) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 01:09:21 -0300 Subject: Sinister: Everyday can't be like Sunday Message-ID: <01BED703.8456B020@ch02m9.alp.sol.com.br> Hello darlings :) Just a few remarks about some things you said: mark casarotto: " I once went out with a girl because she wanted to figure out her sexuality. No prizes for guessing which side of the fence she came down on (no pun intended). Has this happened to anyone else on the list?" Unfortunately I didn't succeed in converting a gay guy to the wonderful straight world, showing him the yellow brick road to the lovely boy&girl land... hehe. When I thought I was almost doing it, as he was saying that he was a "heterosexual in the closet" and he was an "ex-gay" and all... I caught him snogging a little boy...*sigh* Suppose the "Pink Team" is just too good to compete against? hehehe... Besides... there are no ex-gays... are there?? And Genevieve said something really funny... " They should have a Bowlie in July when its HOT HOT HOT. Struan,Mick and StuD will be Pool Boys #1,#2 and #3.In loincloths,naturally." Hehehe! Stuart D... the Stud!! in loincloths...! wooohooo!! :)) And I agree with Chris Butler: "ideally, there would be a list of cities/countries people could associated their name and email with. not necessarily separate mailing lists or whatnot, but just a list of people based on location. even better would be a little map with pins in it for everywhere people are from and you could click on a pin/city, and see who's from there. it'd be great for travelling - a sinister map of the world." What do you think about that Honey? Isn't that a lovely idea?? Don't you just hate Sundays? TV crap shows, waiting for manic Monday to come, bad mood, PMS, my fat gob... and all I can think about is: do something shitty while you can... God! Can't wait for Friday! xxx Gabi ICQ# 8042374 "Only the shallow know themselves" Oscar Wilde +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jafrey1 at xxx.edu Mon Jul 26 06:53:56 1999 From: jafrey1 at xxx.edu (Juliebean) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 00:53:56 -0500 Subject: Sinister: acid dreaming? Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19990726005356.006c0fcc@students.wisc.edu> i read that B&S were going to have a track on a soundtrack which was going to be made for the movie of a few stories from "Acid House" by Irving Welsh... did this movie ever come out? i didn't see it in the states, but i don't know if i just missed it or if i just dreamed it was going to come out after reading some of the fabulous stories in the book right before drifting off to sleep... can anyone please recommend a few good night spots to check out in London and or Edinburgh? I have been to london a few times but have never found any really interesting, comfortable places to dance. i would greatly appreciate the help..... p.s. i don't give a lick about Evan dando, but i think some Lemonheads songs are darn well crafted pop- niblets..there's my two bits .....oh, and isobel campbell is a talented little charm, not worthy of violent hatred juliebean +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carllafong at xxx.net Mon Jul 26 06:53:13 1999 From: carllafong at xxx.net (John Mahoney) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 00:53:13 -0500 Subject: Sinister: an insight on things new Message-ID: <001f01bed72b$2a97a760$057d85ce@ELNcarllafong> I was just realizing that Stuart M doesn't sing any of the newer songs (not on the releases). Winter Wooskie, Wrong Girl, Paper Boat, all Murdoch-less! I'm not too familiar with these songs, I've heard them only on the Bowlie set tape, so if any of them arent new at all and I've made my self look like a fool again, please forgive. If there is one thing that I learned when I was a child it's to stay away from the sockets JM +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pinaplcrsh at xxx.com Mon Jul 26 08:13:21 1999 From: Pinaplcrsh at xxx.com (Pinaplcrsh at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 03:13:21 EDT Subject: Sinister: which side of the fence are you on? Message-ID: In a message dated 99-07-26 00:11:27 EDT, you write: << mark casarotto: " I once went out with a girl because she wanted to figure out her sexuality. No prizes for guessing which side of the fence she came down on (no pun intended). Has this happened to anyone else on the list?" >> growing up a dyke, this happened to me quite a few times. 'oh, i think i like girls' and after you've been ignored for a couple days, 'oh, i just wanted to see if i did and it's not really my thing'. it always makes a girl feel good. i don't let myself get interested in anyone who has a question about it anymore. one thing i love about b&s is how the songs aren't so about boy and girl. the lyrics aren't very strict so you can take them to mean that they're talking about you no matter who or what you are. or at least that's how i take them. i wish i had more to write about to this list. i only have sad things going on and no one wants to hear about that and whenever i have b&s thoughts i'm too shy to say them. there should be an intro when you join the list about how to write a clever post that will be accepted in sinister land. if anyone wants to tutor me, feel free. i'm looking for suggestions on french pop. i love france gall and there's a band called caramel that's good, but i don't know much else. can anyone help? i was thinking of buying some francoise hardy or serge gainsbourg tomorrow. are they worth their hefty prices? thanks in advance. *alyssa marie* p.s. lesley jo, i will write soon. i promise. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From theresajlowe at xxx.uk Mon Jul 26 13:35:01 1999 From: theresajlowe at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Theresa=20Lowe?=) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:35:01 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Come Together Message-ID: <19990726123501.12432.rocketmail@web703.mail.yahoo.com> er, Hello! This is my first post to the list and I am afraid to say that it contains smut! I was reading The Observer yesterday and saw an article about the dreaded NC-17 rating, apparently a film awarded this in America finds it almost impossible to gain proper marketing for supposed "Adult" content. American Pie has escaped this certificate - its a film about four blokes who want to lose their viginity before prom night and there is a scene of Theres Something About Mary proportions! This is ok but , Coming Soon has been given the certificate even though it largely covers the same ground (ie three teenagers seeking thir first orgasm) The only difference is that these three are women. A spokewoman admitted that it may have been different if it had been a boy's movie. This is terrible! Society seems to have a problem with female onanism. Mastubation is a good thing and should be encouraged, taught in schools even. Or not. perhaps i should go out more often. Anyway, moving swiftly onwards. Eyes Wide Shut, Star Wars et al pale into significance when compared to the new film starring MacKauley Culkin's brother. I say this only as my friend has just landed a role in it as a pixie! Jim and I got into B&S at the same time and none of our friends really like them so its a sort of shared secret. Jim also introduced me to Nick Drake for which i shall be eternally gratefull. we are both going to All Tomorrows Parties so we hope to see you all there! Cant guarantee any pixie costumes though. He he, just noticed that my list crush vote has been registered. By the way, If Mick Cooke is reading this, will you marry me? Yes, well, I think i have said more than enough. Lots of Love Theresa xox _____________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From swannie at xxx.org Mon Jul 26 14:24:55 1999 From: swannie at xxx.org (Amanda Bergman) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:24:55 -0400 Subject: Sinister: b&s in the acid house Message-ID: <379C61A7.C720E38A@belleandsebastian.org> or on the soundtrack, at least. yes, they're on it, along with Beth Orton, the Chemical Brothers, and Verve (to name the bands listed on the promotional postcard I have here). the film/soundtrack came out in the UK over 6 months ago, as I recall, and I think the film must be set for release here in the US around late August/early September (soundtrack is available August 10). Looper on Friday here in NY was fabulous...minus, of course, the whining girl who pushed her way to the front and practically draped herself over us. but I guess you can't have it all, eh? beginning to queue now for the 8pm in-store tonight (hehe), Amanda -- “If someone steals your cab, then it wasn’t your cab.” --from Taxi Driver Wisdom >>visit Red Roses For Me<< http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Cabaret/9043/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Mon Jul 26 14:47:17 1999 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:47:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: An old man rambles on and then asks pleadingly for some help Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB695D6ABE@PARK_EX> Gosh it seems a long time since i have inflicted myself upon the group in general, although #sinister people have been seeing me quite a lot as I have discovered the wonders of the Chat room. Hurrah for unlimited internet access at work! Free local phone calls in the UK NOW! (and free computers with lots of whizzy bits too). I'm still trying to get my hands on some more Tigermilk posters but no luck yet. Somebody said last week (apols mental faculties going): Something about listening to "Friday, I'm in Love" in sixth grade. Now unless years of watching crappy american school-based sit-coms/soaps have somehow misled me, that means this person was like 12 or 13 when it came out. HOW OLD DO I FEEL NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was my big fave record the first term I was at Uni. I feel it is time to get the zimmer frame out. It's bad enough going out and being the oldest person in the club (except the DJ, who's pushing 40 and looks like Steven Tyler), seeing all these louche youths with their spiky hair and baggy trousers without been surrounded by young'uns here too (at least I can seek solace in booze when I'm out). anywayhoo, I hope that everyone brings exciting food to the London pic-er-nic on Saturday, I seem to remember the Greenwich one being mainly crisps and booze (I only had posh food cos I had a Marks and Spencer voucher to use up). If nobody has any other ideas for post-picnic fun, Ricky Spontane (the band that played at my wedding, but they're like, way cool, not a wedding band or nothing) are playing at the Bull & Gate with Baxendale and a couple of others to launch their new album, so I'll certainly be popping along to that (I've got a stack of £3.50 entry flyers too, if anyone else feels like joining me). The only slight cloud on the horizon re Saturday at the mo is a lack of somewhere to lay my head come nightfall. If anyone has a couple of square foot of carpet (or even lino) spare to rest my weary bones I'd be very grateful if they could get in touch with me. xoxo CarsmileSteve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Mon Jul 26 16:55:02 1999 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MS1996) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:55:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: When it's cold I feel cold, when it's hot I feel ambitious! Message-ID: <379C84D6.5BA5673A@cs.strath.ac.uk> OK, so due to the fact that my cousin's wedding is in Oxford on Friday, and I'm going to it, this means that I shall also be attending the London picnic merry-go-round the following day. Yay! I just thought I should give you prior warning so that anyone who has met me can choose to stay away, and anyone who hasn't met me can be told by the people that have met me to stay away as well. However in the unlikely event that lots of people do actually show up, I'm looking forward very much to seeing you all. One other thing, yesterday I was reading the Scotland On Sunday newspaper, and came across an article entitled 'America discovers irony, shock', the irony being in the form of a spoof newspaper called The Onion. There's not many times I laugh out loud while reading, but this was one of them, with such headlines as: More states shifting welfare control to McDonalds. New old people's magazine gives old people something to read while waiting to die. (one for Mr Hewitt perhaps :)) and Instant infant death syndrome linked to bad parents who could have done something. Have any US listees read this? Maybe someone could send me a copy, as I'd love to read it. Or is it on the net? I did a search but nothing turned up except a lot of recipes for soup, which is quite nice, pinch of salt, yes, diced carrots, yes but not really what I'm looking for. Anyways, I shall reiterate my above comments and say I can't wait till Saturday. Bye bye Alasdair xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rehakk at xxx.edu Mon Jul 26 17:09:30 1999 From: rehakk at xxx.edu (Kimberly Rehak) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:09:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: 12 hours on a bus takes a long time... Message-ID: ...especially if you are sitting next to a smelly man who continuously elbows you in the hip whilst trying to sleep. and especially when you really have to go, you know, to the potty and are too afraid to wake him up to ask to be let into the aisle... waking up this morning was horrible. the dog heard every obsenity that i know as i let her outside to do her business. but i'm hear and at work and bored now. anyway hallo, i just finished sifting through the past four days of sinister, it took me all morning, but it's not like i have got better things to do-not that there *is* anything better to do. [wink] incidently, i have that "manic monday" song by the bangles in my head this morning. it's tres irritating. the 24 hours on the bus (12 each way) to see looper was worth it, though there was a problem with the speakers there handling bass. i, too, was upset with the lack of merchandise sold afterwards. true, i saved myself some money which will buy me dinner tonight at job #4, but it always seems that when i have money to buy something, there is nothing to buy. as opposed to when i wanted to buy some blonde redhead merch last sunday and i had to buy something with the last of my pennies. but when stud stu d. sang winter wooskie as an encore, i almost cried. well, not really, but it gave me a really nice warm feeling inside. maybe since i've been told i look like karn, i was picturing someone singing that to me andi got all mushy. haha, like that would ever happen. i had a dream with my lust object in it the other week. he was "with" this beautiful girl-tall, blonde, beautiful, everything opposite me-who also happened to be carrying his baby! all i could think of was "geez, i get turned down even in my dreams!" aha the coolest thing about new york: the record store kim's video is named kim and had tigermilk on display in the vindow. yeahyeah, i know there are lots of other cool places but hey... anyway, speaking of porn (strangely, i feel like i have been saying this alot lately.): on thursday evening, marie and i had just finished watching the beautiful "ma vie en rose" and her mother came into the bedroom to go to sleep. so marie turned the video off to rewind it and there is this naked girl spread eagle dancing nasty in these stilletto boots. it was funny. but i have to say, marie, that you had a miraculous save with that one! "uh, MOM, what are you watching?" i have a friend who works in a strip club. she's not a dancer though, she just hands out gold cards for the rich patronizers. she always tells me stories about the celebrities that visit. my favorites are those of the backstreet boys and the ones from 'n sync. imagine, these men are taking money from 11 years olds and charming them with their "sex appeal", and then stuffing it down their big sister's g string. yikes. i'm going to lunch now. i sincerly hope that you do not mind me utilizing the list to relinquish some of my boredom at work. i hope this is coherent and makes sense because i don't feel like i do at the moment. billions of love particles and kisskisskisses, KIMberly ps. i hate to use the list for this but: willy i can't write to your new address. what's going on? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wilska at xxx.net Mon Jul 26 17:13:25 1999 From: wilska at xxx.net (Emily Wilska) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:13:25 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Onion Love Message-ID: <15AAE0EBDCC9D1119FFA00805F85642E01DB4A21@WNI-MSG-02> Ah yes. The Onion. One of the funniest things I have EVER read. Ever. Other classic headlines include "Starbucks to Open in Restroom of Existing Starbucks" and "RC Cola Celebrates 10th Sale". A good deal of the stories are Ameri-centric (is that a word?), but they're damn hilarious nonetheless. Check out the online version at www.theonion.com. Also be sure to look at the USA Today-type polls. Very, very cheeky. In fact, I think I'm gonna slog off on the work I have to do and go catch up on some Onion reading instead. Ahhhh Monday. (Thanks, Kimberly--now I have "Manic Monday" running through my head as well.) xxoo Emily +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ar981611 at xxx.uk Mon Jul 26 17:59:52 1999 From: ar981611 at xxx.uk (Ailsa Ross) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:59:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: London, can you wait... Message-ID: <379C9408.F3693214@student.paisley.ac.uk> Yes, I'm definitely going too. I'm just off to the airport to pick up my tickets. I'm famous according to Rob Halcrow so you'll all want to meet me. Though it is advisable to get to me early, before I start on supermodel-lixi's strawberry-milkshake-with-rum-in-it. I'm practising all-day alcoholism for All Tomorrow's Parties (though according to the blurb you aren;t allowed to take drink with you. Hmmm, didn;t they say that last time?), where I shall be endeavouring to drink even more than I did last time. Sinister sighting on the telly: Whilst watching The Boy with the Arab Strap live from Bowlie that I taped off MTV, I spotted that nice Nick Dastoor shaking his head about in the front of the audience. I have been scouring the audience shots in slow motion but that's it, him and DM,C,UK. Any of the rest of you in there? Surely there were more Sinister people down the front than that... List crush: Did you know that according to someone I am going to All Tamara's Ponies with that the members of our chalet account for more than 10% of all list crush votes cast. I quite believe it, we are all great. Despite what Alasdair says. Oh, enough already. I've got plane tickets to buy. See some of you on Saturday. I'm quite excited about this. I bet it rains though. Ailsa xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Mon Jul 26 18:35:26 1999 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksAndAJill) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:35:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Alliaceaephilia (a fancy-ass way to say "Onion Love") Message-ID: <199907261735.NAA35682@dept.english.upenn.edu> The Onion is great, all bow down to its supreme work-shirking pleasure-giving abilities. Some of the best articles are in the Archives (online). My personal fave being the Sports article about how an investigation revealed that the Special Olympics are "fixed" because everybody apparently wins... This week's Onion has a great column that I couldn't resist quoting, because it is all too applicable for us when talking about B&S or anyone else really who has a career spanning more than two albums. There but for the grace of God go us! I should add at this point that I enjoy a few Tangerine Dream albums (pre-Risky Business believe me) and Enya is good. I shun all other New Age related artists though... Xavier -- Today's New Age Music Is Crap By Doug Wortham Boy, nothing stays good for long, that's all I can say. I went to Falling Water Books & Music right after work Tuesday, because I'd heard the new David Lanz CD was finally out. So I shelled out my $15.99, and raced home to listen. And you know what? It fucking blew. I'm not kidding. David Lanz has let us all down. The first three tracks, I'm like, "Okay, this is kind of derivative of the earlier stuff like Heartsounds or Nightfall, but he's probably just reacquainting us with the style before hitting us with the new shit." And then the next five tracks... I don't even know how to say it. It sucked. I'm like, "Is this the same David Lanz who put out Woodlands?" Believe me, I wish it were only The Lanz. But it's all of them. The golden age of New Age music has come and gone. I remember when I first heard Yanni, back in '85. It was my junior year of high school. One Saturday night, I was hanging out at my buddy Steve's, and he looks at me and says, "Dude, you gotta hear this record. This shit will blow your mind." So I'm like, "Okay, whatever, Steve." So he puts this LP on, and I hear the first notes of Optimystique come out of the speaker. Needless to say, my jaw hit the floor. It was like the moment in The Wizard Of Oz where everything goes from black-and-white to color. The next day, I bought my own copy, and I listened to it for like 24 hours straight. I didn't get to sleep until, like, 4 a.m., so I skipped school the next day and just played Optimystique non-stop. I actually wore out the needle, moving it back to listen to "Butterfly Dance" over and over again. After that, New Age pretty much became my life. I started devouring the old masters like Cluster, Tangerine Dream and Kitaro. I spent all the money I made at my pizza-delivery job on New Age, and when that wasn't enough, I started mowing lawns. Then came my college years. The gang on my floor at the dorm would stay up all night playing the coolest shit, like Angels Of Venice and Gordon Burnham. We'd go through a whole box of Celestial Seasonings Red Zinger in a night. Once, we rented a van and drove all the way to Vermont just to see John Anderson live. That was back when I was dating Alicia Leupke just because she looked a little like Enya. That was back when New Age was a real thing. Back when Windham Hill Records was an exciting new upstart indie label. Now they've sold out and are doing all these Beatles tributes and jazz festivals. They've forgotten what it's all about. It used to be about the New Age music! Now, it's just about having the hottest stars and promoting them. Or getting that next album finished in time, to satisfy the record executives who don't even care if it's any good, so long as it's done on time. I mean, can you name one track on Chris Spheeris' last album? I didn't think so. I was out with this chick a month ago, and she asked me what kind of music I was into, so I said New Age, and she goes, "Oh, I just love John Tesh." I'm like, what the fuck?!?! That shit isn't New Age! New Age is about harmony with nature! It's about ambience and calming down! Not about some Hollywood pretty-boy banging on his Casio! I hear Tesh doesn't even have real ocean sounds--that's all synthesized, too. Frankly, none of these idiots on the charts nowadays know the first thing about the true spirit of New Age. I mean, Bruce BecVar? Where was Bruce BecVar during the harmonic convergence of 1987? Moussing his hair, most likely. And what about all these bands that are wearing a different crystal in every photo? They're using crystals for fashion purposes, not for focusing their personal, unchanging chakras! I swear, these poseurs wouldn't know the voice of Seth if they channeled it! It's all been downhill since December by George Winston. A great album, no question, but it was too successful and went mainstream. Then all the phonies came out of the woodwork, the big labels wanted in, and the next thing you know, the scene is totally ruined, turned into a giant, money-sucking corporate whore-beast. I know what you're gonna say: "What about Dreamsea? They're independent." Yeah, but it's so obvious that their whole goal is to sell out. Look how they're promoting Book Of Dreams, talking them up like they're the next Secret Garden or something. Yeah, right--they sound more like me and Steve screwing around in the garage with our flute and harp back in high school. They just want to get a million-seller so they can whore themselves to Time-Warner, you just know it. Ah, well. I guess I'll always have Optimystique. And my memories. -- BXK bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu | www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 It's what kind of hair you have on the inside that counts.--G.S. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlearsonist at xxx.com Mon Jul 26 18:48:34 1999 From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:48:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: not just a boy who plays guitar Message-ID: <19990726174834.16996.rocketmail@web111.yahoomail.com> hello, kids. because i feel the need to share my thoughts with 1,100 strangers (well 1,095 strangers and 5 people i actually know), i will tell you that i have a newfound respect and admiration for StuD, who is worthy of the "stud" title! but seriously, when i saw looper in london, most of the music was prerecorded or something, and this time (nyc) it was mostly live and stu actually Talked to us! chatted us up a bit and was too, too charming. looper really know how to put on a show. and between the looper encore and the bowlie tape that kimmy dubbed for me, this winterwooskie song is my new favourite. it better damn well be on the next album or Someone's gonna get it from me! anyway, where the hell are you all getting the "wooskie" part from? was it ever referred to by this name? b/c the phrase in the song is "winter wardrobe," ya? la la la... well, no matter, it is beautiful, and looper were great, and the khan boys & their boxers were quite entertaining, and magnetic megan and mick mcmick are awesome, as are the D.C. kids and others that ended up at the tomato before the show. and this is a boring boring boring post.... i deserve to be sent back to the nursery for this one, although i never was in the nursery, but maybe that's why i ought to go there, have a look around, make me appreciate my voice more... oh, i'm going on and on again, aren't i? sorry. right, right. take care, kids. xoxo, marie ps. i think it was mentioned before, but anyone who has not read nick hornsby's "high fidelity" needs to go out and do it right now. right now, damn it! go! pps. oh, and see "run lola run" while you're out. === ************************************************************** "I was a proper snob in college, as only a future lifetime English major can be" - b. glass (jds) "to me she was just marie." -mersault ************************************************************** _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.edu Mon Jul 26 18:47:57 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.edu (bfundak at xxx.edu) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:47:57 -0400 Subject: Sinister: On the nature of love... Message-ID: <852567BA.0061C98D.00@sp27.bgsu.edu> I have a question for all of the sensitive sinister kids who think about the nature of love as often as I do. I have had a crush on my best friend for some time now, and I was thinking about the idea of there being one "perfect" person out there for everyone. Basically what I mean by this is that there is one person that exists for someone else. They may not exist for the express purpose of being together, but it works you know? So my question is this. Is there such a thing as the "perfect" mate? I have my own ideas on this, but I was wondering what some of you kids thought. Let me know... Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From glawler at xxx.ie Mon Jul 26 18:50:13 1999 From: glawler at xxx.ie (Gary Lawler) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:50:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Area B&S fan injured, twee Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990726185013.00858100@gpo.iol.ie> Lots of talk about the all-powerful Onion . . . the chances of getting a weekly copy outside the US is remote, but there is a book called "Our Dumb Century" by the Onion which is published here by Boxtree, and is well worth a look (*accepts brown envelope from Boxtree executive hiding in the shadows*). Today the sun was shining, the birds were singing, the sky was clear blue and I was . . . in a library studying cofactor matrices. I *really* wish I'd studied months ago and passed my tests the first time around so I wouldn't have to do all this crud for my repeat exams now. Bum. I've been listening to Tigermilk a bit more and it's probably my favorite B&S album now. Also, it got a nice review in Select, but I have to admit to being well creeped out by the thought that they're reading everything we write, waiting for something interesting to come along that they can print in their next issue *shivers* -- Gary Lawler ---------------- ICQ: 11115268 AIM: seclite369 ---------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wizard at xxx.com Mon Jul 26 19:28:15 1999 From: wizard at xxx.com (Dan Cohen) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:28:15 -0400 Subject: Sinister: the cars, trains, and airplanes will stall References: <199907261752.LAA28222@turtle.esosoft.net> Message-ID: <379CA8BF.DD7AE407@twcny.rr.com> It warms my heart a bit to see people posting from belleandsebastian.org addresses, because a certain Mr. Heath Seals is far swanker than any of you could imagine, and it's swell how you've all patronized him and lily and the happy swirl of nothingness that is b&s.org. but i digress. I hadn't posted about my Looper experiences this weekend, so I suppose I will do so now. Wednesday I saw the TLA show with my good friend Gina; Bardo Pond was a sorry opener, especially with the flute-smacking lead singer and the mostly out-of-tune band, but DJ Pinkai was acceptable, and my very first Looper show was an enjoyable experience indeed. The Y2K song is extremely pretty and the tape I made came out quite well considering the poor acoustics of the place. Then on Friday it was New York City with Gina and our friend Leigh. We got there somewhat late, but managed to make it near the front of the stage. (that was me in the blue spaceboy shirt, "being that guy" cf. PCU, by the way) The opening band, whose name I think was Summerbell Roundup, was good if a bit depressing, and Khan was a riot. I said, quite loudly, "I like heavy metal!", at the beginning of their set, and the lead singer handed me an autographed (by Khan, anyway) copy of a really horrid Kiss tape. I suppose he took that as a bit of an advance, because he kept swinging his hips and microphone in my and Leigh's faces in sort of a psuedo-homoerotic fashion (in contrast, the singer who looked a lot like a third-rate member of Men at Work was a bit more reserved), and it was a bit distressing :) Later on, they did their striptease, and he handed Gina an autographed packet of Wet Light brand anal lubricant, which was a bit unnerving, but 'twas all in good fun, I suppose. Looper then came on, and while it was the same set as Philly (with the exception of the encore, which was pretty and acoustic and distinctly non-Looperish), the crowd was a lot more rabid. The bass, by virtue of the rack of speakers at our feet, was also more vibrant, which caused in me a bad case of tinnitus and in Gina a fainting spell, which was a bit frightening as Leigh carried her outside while I stayed on to bootleg. I was a little confused as the show went on, but the tape turned out even better than the TLA show. Tramps was a fun venue, and the freebie CDs Spin magazine was handing out was a nice touch as well. At any rate, I'd like to hear people's recollections of the show(s) if they were in attendance, and also get in touch with the girl and boy who wanted to contact me re: trades for the bootlegs and whose address I seem to have misplaced or run through the wash. Now I will go lurk somewhere far, far away from any form of culture *sniffle* -Dan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SSharp5210 at xxx.com Mon Jul 26 19:39:34 1999 From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:39:34 EDT Subject: Sinister: Monday:Reach for the razor blades. Message-ID: Hi kids. Oh,God I really need cheering up.After 3 long,lazy drunken weeks I finally went back to work to-day.I was damn near suicidal this morning,so if anyone knows any good jokes please feel free to share them (the filthier the better). Anyway,to business.Brandt was wondering about a "perfect" mate.I think you'll find that if such creatures existed there would be no relationships.Ever.We'd all be waiting for the perfect person.The best anyone gets is"good enough" or "the best I'm going to get".In my somewhat limited experience anyway. Steve S xxxxx "There's nothing cushy about life in The Womens Auxilliary Balloon Corps" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Mon Jul 26 19:49:34 1999 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgirl) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:49:34 PDT Subject: Sinister: meetup last thursday Message-ID: <19990726184935.92749.qmail@hotmail.com> thanx you darlings who showed up at the picnic on the 22nd and the pub later.. you're all so very sweet people see you again some day I hope mail me and keep the inbox jumping :) hugs becka btw what's teh listcrush adress again?? huggles beautiful people # go and have a peek at my page it's constantly developing, http://www.angelfire.com/me/Mizzy # ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SSharp5210 at xxx.com Mon Jul 26 20:11:01 1999 From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:11:01 EDT Subject: Sinister: Legal eagle Message-ID: <93b533b8.24ce0cc5@aol.com> Hi. It was just suggested that I may be an Ally McBeal viewer.I despise McSqueal with a passion. The writ is in the post. Steve S xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.net Mon Jul 26 22:08:49 1999 From: rebelstrange at xxx.net (Lesley J Miller) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:08:49 -0700 Subject: Sinister: some quick rubbish Message-ID: <000901bed7ab$0fefb620$3011020a@rebelstrange> HI everybody!! _Hi Dr. Nick!_ I'm back from my whirlwind adventure in DC. Looper was nice and the new Y2K song deserves to be a massive hit single and rule the world. i swear it would be possible. the hospitality and kindness of Christa and dan the man cannot be overestimated. Dc is really hot. i saw some joan of arc paintings. i ate tofu and hummus, i took tons of photos, i drooled over claudia gonson and met some sinister peeps like jennifer pulpbot, Eran and xavier the mystery man......sorry we missed you ! where did you get off to? Stephin merritt wasn't as scary as i feared, and the show was very laid back and nice and the Dudley guy was very sweet, he smiled at me during the show and then talked to us afterwards. i got a ton of new thrift store clothes, and some seven inches by team dresch and sleaterkinney for that dyke-core flavor. if i think of anything else interesting to say, i'll write it later. oh and i kept getting ogled by really disgusting men. all the cute indie girls in DC, and what luck i have!?? not one of *them* gave me a nasty glance. no it was all hairy fat guys with krusty the clown tattoos. i'm not fucking kidding on that one. it's an outrage that women can't pleasure themselves on film and be awarded the same celebrity as osme punk-ass boys. hey i'm going to jack off in an inanimate object, it's just as good as jacking off into a woman, i mean a twat with legs. yeah well i have issues. but i agree. i think masturbation should be taught in sex ed. Joycelyn Elders is like the BOMB. she kicks ass. that was like the best idea i ever heard. anyway. people are so threatened by female sexuality. it's okay to see as long as it's done for the voyeuristic impulses of men--we can have fake lesbians pretending to make out on the friggin TONIGHT SHOW!, but god forbid Ellen kiss another woman on her show,that would mean the women are in control of their own emotions, and we wouldn't want THAT would we!! that would just fuck with the whole status quo. i'm sorry i should really stop talking about it cos it makes me pretty angry. It's nice to see that our preteen idols nsync and backstreet boys are REAL MEN who enjoy exploiting financially blackmailed and abused women. i'm just so glad that they can promote the wholesome redblooded american ways of life for our god=fearing nation. http://www.theonion.com/onion3113/antidepress.html http://www.theonion.com/onion3301/divorcepoetry.html http://www.theonion.com/onion3523/hot_chick_psycho.html http://www.theonion.com/onion3001w/collage.html go to the onion. you know it's the right thing to do. with a kiss from me to you, LJ http://www.members.tripod.com/rebelstrange "Strong like a gorilla, yet soft and yielding like a NERF ball" SAVE MST3K!!!! http://www.mst3kinfo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stugardiner at xxx.com Mon Jul 26 21:53:07 1999 From: stugardiner at xxx.com (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:53:07 BST Subject: Sinister: Chart Scandal Message-ID: <19990726205308.14023.qmail@hotmail.com> OK, so Tigermilk went into the UK charts at number 13. But that very same week, bands including Blur were complaining that their new singles went into the charts misleadingly low, because due to a computer cock-up all sales from Virgin and Our Price stores were omitted from the chart. And I'll bet a higher proportion of Tigermilks were sold at Virgin than at Woolworths. So I reckon the true chart position should have been even higher (after all, the HMV in-store chart had it at number 4, and at Tower Records I'm told it was number 1). I propose we get Pete Waterman to investigate... Of course, there are other problems surrounding the rerelease. I'm sure I'm not the only person on this list who is anal enough to keep their CD collection in alphabetical order by artist. Well I go one stage further, under each artist they're filed in chronological order. So should Tigermilk be my first B&S album or my last one? Or should I just get a life? The infamous Ailsa wrote: >List crush: >Did you know that according to someone I am going to All Tamara's Ponies >with that the members of our chalet account for more than 10% of all >list crush votes cast. I quite believe it, we are all great. Which of course is categorically NOT the result of the members of your chalet all voting for each other. Anyone who's going to Camber, make sure you find out where their chalet is, it sounds like there'll be some group-loving to spy on. Now I'm going to be leaving the list in 2 weeks time (going to live with my parents for a couple of months, then I'll be in South America for 5 months and then Australia for 6 months after that), so I feel I ought to give you all a leaving present. Maybe I should just tell you all how to find out who's voted for you on the list crush site? If anyone wants to stop me, simply vote for me ;-) (Oh, and to the 4 genuine people who've voted for me, delusional fools as they are, speak now or forever hold your peace!) Does anyone know if I'm right in thinking that Salako are playing a gig at the London Borderline this Friday? And if so, does any kind soul fancy offering me floorspace for Friday night ready for the picnic the next day? (And come to that, for Saturday night when I'm too drunk to make it in time for the last train home?) Big Stu ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Mon Jul 26 22:31:11 1999 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Brian Pennington (Mick McMick)) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:31:11 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Looper, Electronic Ripoff?, Order for the Anally Retentive Message-ID: <379CD39F.B97F7983@ohiou.edu> Hey Sinisterines, I'm afraid I'll be missing the Looper instore this evening, sadly. The show on Friday was indeed quite lovely. The songs all sounded as if they'd been greatly fleshed out since the recording of the album. It's a shame they can't re-record the album now. Anyway, perhaps this is a better preview of Looper album nombre deux. Also, Winter Woos[f]kie was this time performed by all the members of Looper, not just David on geetar and Stuart D. on vocals. It sounded great. Either Stu[D] is getting better at singing or his voice is growing on me. Either way it's good =) Dan, I saw you but didn't know you were une sinisterine. Wondered where you got the shirt, but figured it was through the webpage. Guess not. I certainly liked the whole audio/visual experience, though. That was the best part of it I think. Sometimes the video seemed a smidgen trite, but it seemed mostly quite good. Regarding the scene with a dancing flares-wearing boy, some expressed skepticism as to whether or not it was Chris. We all definately thought we saw Sarah and Isobel, though. It must be fairly old, as it was prior to Isobel getting her hair cut like Amelia Fletcher/Jane Seberg. We thought we saw Stuart Murdoch sitting on a fallen log near Sarah, but it is only conjecture. I do agree with whoever thinks the flares-clad boy was Chris, as in Ink Polaroids he asked for "40-inch flares and Celtic to win the league cup." Moving on, as per a post on the Factory list (which is only slightly higher traffic than Sha-La-La, sadly): > Having recently bought the Belle & Sebastian album Tigermilk, just > released on CD for the first time, I was struck by the similarity of > the song Electronic Renaissance to New Order's Procession - both the > bassline and synths. Is this plagiarism......? I won't post the author, and I'll let you all make your own judgements as to his/her question. I can't even remember what Procession sounds like offhand... Lastly, Stuart Gardiner was stumped as to whether or not to include Tigermilk last or first in his record collection. Well, being somewhat less anal retentive than the main character in High Fidelity yet somewhat more than the average Joe, I'll give my two cents. If the release date is what matters to you, then put it most recent. If, however, the chronolgy of the recordings, not their proper releases, is important, put it earlier on. However, if you do that, stick Dog on Wheels before it, because it was the first in order of recording. That's how I do it, anyway. Okay, that's all for me. Mick McMick at work +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ussher at xxx.ca Mon Jul 26 23:13:25 1999 From: ussher at xxx.ca (allen) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:13:25 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Sinister: Domo Arigato, Mr. Roboto Message-ID: Well, I'm certainly surprised by how many people have read The Onion (fave headline: Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes). Is it actually sold on streetcorners and at newsstands and such in the US? I accidentally bumped into their site whilst searching for any web sites on that song Mr. Roboto by Styx*. They featured an article entitled "Nation's Rappers Down to Last Two Samples" wherein it was noted that rappers have sampled just about everything -- except for two songs: "Mr. Roboto" and "Tiptoe through the tulips" -- and now there was a crisis of epic proportions as there'd definitely be a bidding war for those last two songs. Hilarious. I'm sorry if anyone here is a Styx fan or else a huge "Mr. Roboto" fan, but that song is too damn funny. It's so 80s and cheesy. I first heard it on a VW commercial and then heard the full song on the radio a little while ago. I especially love the "secret, secret" chant in the verse. (Watch as Allen runs out to buy the album with Mr. Roboto on it for laughs and turns into a huge Styx fan and denounces all his current faves, including B&S. Hey, it could happen.) * This reminds me of my junior high language arts teacher who was teaching us greek mythology at one point (great subject, BTW). And it turns out there is a River Styx in greek mythology. Well, said teacher never failed to point out, "Oh, there's a rock band with the name Styx that you may be familiar with. " Like she was trying to be "groovy" and "hip" and "cool" and such and such. When, in fact, she was just being "square." I swear, she must've mentioned it 20 times and each time I'd think, "Dammit! We've never heard of that band before!!! We listen to GOOD music like Vanilla Ice, Kris Kross, M.C. Hammer and other talented artists." (This is what was popular in the early '90s for a little while for those not in the know. Egads, some people even wore their pants backwards to look like Kris Kross. lol) Too funny... (shameless plug -- i'm gonna put up 2 new eliza strips on my page soon) be seeing you, Allen (ICQ: #35152981) -- "Long afloat on shipless oceans I did all my best to smile Till your singing eyes and fingers Drew me loving to your isle." -- Song to the Siren, Tim Buckley. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From justin at xxx.com Tue Jul 27 00:08:07 1999 From: justin at xxx.com (Justin Williams) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:08:07 -0500 Subject: Sinister: On the nature of love... In-Reply-To: <852567BA.0061C98D.00@sp27.bgsu.edu> Message-ID: <4.1.19990726165045.00a26960@delafont.com> Dear Brandt, I wish I had time to write more but I am at work right now. I'm sure you realize that my or anyone else's idea of whether or not the "perfect" mate exists is quite relative so I won't bother making that disclaimer about my own opinions. I personally think that an omnipresent love is the common denominator behind all assumed "perfect" matches, well that and things the two people have in common. I think that love is something that always exists within us and it only shows itself when we meet someone that we can relate to and who seems compatible with us. So, unless you are the strangest, most unique person on earth, chances are that there are many people out there who could eventually be your "perfect" mate. I know by saying that, it may sound like I am cheapening the individual aspects of love, but of course when we are in a loving relationship we never want to admit that there is someone else out there who we could love equally and possible more so if you ever met them therefore we make ourselves believe (whether or not it is true) that the person we are with is the perfect one...until things fall apart, if they do, and we begin to question the existence of soulmates all over again. I have thought about the concept of soulmates quite often and although I have come to the conclusion that I just mentioned, it's not very comforting is it? It may be all well and good from a first person perspective, but when you sit there wondering if your mate is going to find someone he or she loves more than you, it's enough to drive one mad. I think there are some basic elements that if present in a relationship, will help keep it together despite individual differences. Trust, communication and open-mindedness. More often that not one person is either more trusting, communicative or open-minded than the other when a relationship fails. I think, although rare, when both people are equal in those aspects, they can overcome many, many things. I hope it doesn't sound like I am preaching or anything like that, I am just passionate about relationships. =) I really don't mean to disenchant the idea of soulmates because I think it is, at its base, a very valuable and real thing, but you just have to be careful that you are not misinterpreting things in common as signs of your perfect mate. I mean, if they are meant for you, don't you think they would be aware of your interest in them and possibly show the beginnings of a return of those feelings? But what do I know? I am not even in a relationship right now, but I digress...=) Before I go I want to leave you a quote spoken about a woman that the author has only seen once for a single hour and with whom he has never spoken (and it is taken a bit out of context so although it sounds a bit creepy coming from someone that has never met their object of affection, it is really intended as a devotional to womankind as a whole. He loves love but seems to have a problem with individual compatabilities or human relations): "...no matter who has ever loved you, he never loved you more than I do, no man ever granted you more power over himself, unqualified power. But I'm condemned to be untrue. I belong to those windy voices, who don't love women, who love only love. All of us wanderers are made like this. A good part of our wandering and homelessness is love, eroticism. The romanticism of wandering, at least half of it, is nothing else but a kind of eagerness for adventure. But the other half is another eagerness -- an unconcious drive to transfigure and dissolve the erotic. We wanderers are very cunning -- we develop those feelings which are impossible to fulfill; and the love which actually should belong to a woman, we lightly scatter among small towns and mountains, lakes and valleys, children by the side of the road, beggars on the bridge, cows in the pasture, birds and butterflies. We separate love from its object, love alone is enough for us, in the same way that, in wandering, we don't look for a goal, we only look for the happiness of wandering, only the wandering..." Although this quote is a bit dated I think it still has many modern day applications. I myself seem to be falling into the abyss that the author has. I have been in probably 3 or 4 relationships where the love I felt was and is pure, but my "personality" or "ego" could not in the end remain with theirs, despite the love. Love sometimes just isn't enough. I know this may sound cheesy and not well thought out, but my whole being aspires to love and be loved. Everything, and I mean everything else is secondary. My existence (not my personality) is love, I mean it is entirely composed of love...a love for life, and when I meet someone with whom I can share that bond, I "fall in love" with them too. I have spent too many years (how over-dramatic am I, at only 22) searching for my soulmate, when in truth it is love that I love. A few years ago, if I had been in a relationship with someone who said to me "I love love", my ego would immediately be hurt and I would start to question the validity of their love for me. I mean, do they just love being in love or do they truly love me? But now I realize that if someone said that to me, that they meant they love life and life's manifestation of love has respresented itself in the form of me. I hope I am not rambling too much. The more my ego dissolves the more and more of the big picture I am allowed to see, and now I understand that love is its own means and its own end. My god, it looks I did have time to write a lot. Thank you for bringing up that subject because instead of working for some 20 minutes I have been able to write a discourse on love =) I hope this at the very least doesn't hinder you any because I know it probably won't help...I tend to involve myself too much in trying to give advice to others. Thank you also for reading this far. I wish you the best of luck finding your "perfect" mate, whether or not it is your best friend. Until or if we speak again, take care of yourself... Justin W "Often I tried the frightening way of "reality," Where things that count are profession, law, fashion, finance, But disillusioned and freed I fled away alone To the other side, the place of dreams and blessed folly." - Hermann Hesse, Wanderings +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From justin at xxx.com Tue Jul 27 00:10:53 1999 From: justin at xxx.com (Justin Williams) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:10:53 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Re: whoops =0P Message-ID: <4.1.19990726180824.00a2de30@delafont.com> Doh! That last spiel was meant for Brandt and not the list, my apologies. When I hit reply on my mail program to a mailing list post it addresses it to the list and I wasn't paying attention. Oh well.. Justin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jafrey1 at xxx.edu Tue Jul 27 00:53:53 1999 From: jafrey1 at xxx.edu (Juliebean) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:53:53 -0500 Subject: Sinister: onion-o-phile Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19990726185353.006a880c@students.wisc.edu> the onion is pure comic joy if anyone in London wants a copy, let me know as i can bring a few when i am coming to over in 10 days.... B&S content... am i the only one who thinks that "She's losing it" is the best song ever to be recorded ????? silly silly silly julie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fountainhead at xxx.net Tue Jul 27 00:49:02 1999 From: fountainhead at xxx.net (fountainhead) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 00:49:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: she's a waitress, and she's got piles Message-ID: <041801bed7c4$ad86b140$163763c3@oemcomputer> hello jellytots it's 12:34am and, instead of going to bed, i'm going to listen to okcomputer in it's entirety and catch up with a mailbox full of sinister goings on. to those who were in attendance at the chemex/airport girl/luckies gig last week - thanks for coming along, and i hope that you all enjoyed yourselves. so am i to be the mary jo of nottingham? i guess that's ok. there are a million guitarists in 'indie' bands, so i like to be a bit different. it would be shame to waste many years of classical training. i'm a dreadful clarinet player though. for those who are interested - i know that arantxa didn't like the lucksmiths all that much, but i thought that there were rather splendid. any b&s comparisons are a bit wide of the mark though. i'm reliably informed that they sound like hefner, but i've never heard hefner, so i can't confirm it. whoever they sound like, their brand of slighty off-beat punky pop went down well amongst an unexpectedly large crowd. to cap it all, they were absolutely lovely people who spent a lot of time saying how good they thought that the other bands were. they also gave me all of their cd's for free. re. sinister pictures... i don't think anyone should be bothered whether others on the list like their pictures or not. i do the homepage for alt.music.blur which has pictures of many of the regulars, it's all a bit of fun really. it's nice to be able to put faces to some of the names. whether or not you're after any kind of trouser fumbling is best kept private. maybe i'll find a picture for sinister - but all of mine are either dreadfully horrible or dreadfully misleading. and finally - i've got tigermilk on shiny new vinyl, and it's wonderful. i've yet to study the tracklist and put titles to songs, but i don't think there are any that i don't like - so there are no complaints from my corner. "i wish that they'd swoop down on a country road late at night when i'm driving they'd take me on board their beautiful ship and show me the world as i'd love to see it" f. -- fountainhead at earthling.net busy - http://fly.to/balls doing - http://listen.to/chemex nothing - http://fly.to/fountain -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlearsonist at xxx.com Tue Jul 27 04:13:38 1999 From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 23:13:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: maybe i'm in love... Message-ID: <19990727031338.25653.rocketmail@web118.yahoomail.com> oh, faux pas! two posts in one day! but i am still riding a wave of contentment ... i finally decided -- after much hemming and hawing -- to head to the looper in-store in nyc tonight, even though megan would rather pack and mick would rather help her ;) so i called up a friend who'd never heard of looper or b&s and kidnapped him after work, and we headed down to other music, waited for an hour on line, during which we chatted up with a nice and nice-looking nyu music student... and, as luck would have it, since we were in the beginning of the line we ended up at the front of the audience... ooooh... and then the magic starts. no equipment for looper, b/c apparently they rented it and had to return it. so it was just StuD on a guitar that wasn't his, and karn shaking her thang (er, her maraca thingy) and singing. and it was beautiful. (burning flies, winter woosfkie, Y2K, quiet and small, and paper boat -- and mick is right: either stuart got better at singing or i've grown to love his voice. i now LIKE paperboat.) la la la... so i was right there, not 3 feet away from stuart, and whenever he looked up he ended up looking right at me, and of course i dropped my gaze and got all flushed and tried not to stare, but damnit he is rather beautiful, eh? and his voice is rather lovely. and the whole 1/2 hour experience was well worth the wait and the effort of summoning up courage to go.... afterwards there was a signing, but i had decided that getting things signed is not for me, so i didn't bring anything. i wanted to just go up and tell him and karn how lovely the set was, and to ask what the goddamn name of that beautiful winter song Really is, but i felt all shy -- which i really Never am. and i wanted to catch the 9pm train home, so.... i promise to be quiet for a whole week now, really! xoxo, marie === ************************************************************** "I was a proper snob in college, as only a future lifetime English major can be" - buddy glass "to me she was just marie." -mersault ************************************************************** _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Tue Jul 27 05:15:23 1999 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake E Hamilton) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 00:15:23 -0400 Subject: Sinister: all removables, all transitory Message-ID: <001901bed7e6$a70f4bc0$cb1574cc@woody> my lovely sinister! have you missed me? yes? hmph, well, the midwestern part of the US is lovely, though Detroit has some unpleasant things about it. my friend and i stayed in a hotel with no clocks. and his bed was missing a leg. it was really strange. we called the front desk to ask why no clocks were in any room and the lady replied 'we don't want you to know what time it is.' unlucky for her, i have a wristwatch. i hope you all didn't miss me as i took off in my toyota celica, intrepidly getting lost in suburban detroit and almost running out of gas on three separate occasions. hopefully i shall give a more fleeting and lovely post when my brain is together. but to all those who helped me cope with isobel crush, thanks. though a soul did inform me that she is rather rude as a person, and that her whole 'cute and cuddly' image is a facade. say it ain't so! anyone on the list had tea with bel? yes yes well, do tell. lots of rhymes. ouch. my glasses flew out of the car window today! i'm blind. someone help! i realize i don't have bad luck after all. luck never existed in the first place. blake xx -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- "Fuck!" - Jarvis Cocker +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Tue Jul 27 05:21:45 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:21:45 PDT Subject: Sinister: How Stuart Got His Groove Back Message-ID: <19990727042146.87501.qmail@hotmail.com> I am not drunk,like the booze-hounds on the list,I`m just lacking of sleep..which makes you write strange things as if one was drunk. Well,look,its all here. Stuart David will inherit the world.But let me tell you,I was smitten a long time ago.Before I even knew what instrument he played..one glimpse at his gazelle like agility,and it was set. >From: Gabriela Sampaio >Hehehe! Stuart D... the Stud!! in loincloths...! wooohooo!! :)) >From: Kimberly Rehak but when stud stu d. sang winter wooskie as an encore, i >almost cried. well, not really, but it gave me a really nice warm >feeling inside. >From: marie elia i will tell you that i have a newfound >respect and admiration for StuD, who is worthy of the >"stud" title! Here are some songs he could play,when he gets tired of Winter Wooksie.You know,encores.Just some suggestions: "I`m Gonna Love You Just A Little More,Baby" , "I`ve Got So Much To Give", "You`re The First,My Last,My Everything","Baby,We Better Try To Get It Together","Don`t Make Me Wait Too Long","I`m Qualified To Satisfy You" Ha ha...just kidding Karn.You`ll have to forgive me..I live out in the boonies,doesnt take much to amuse this "simple mind". (Can you catch the Belle and Sebastian ref..whoo hooo..too clever,eh?) kisses, genevieve the lonely farm-girl p.s Sex Ed classes put the fear in me,and I think no-one should have to sit through that...80 year old nurses demonstrating condom techniques...STD`s...detailed pictures! *sob*...it`s scarier than Blair Witch,I tell you. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Tue Jul 27 07:19:12 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 02:19:12 EDT Subject: Sinister: all removables, for a price Message-ID: yay! Blake is back! I would have given my next door neighbor's left hand for a chance to see looper play an acoustic set. If anyone can provide me with a bootleg of that show, i'll give you darn near anything. The post on the nature of love that was *supposed* to be private had lots of good things to say. I'm glad it was inflicted on the list tho. very informative. I don't believe in a single soulmate. sorry. That's all i shall say, since I think justin said the rest. who else would like to let Oversized Stu tell us the secret of who the list crush voters are? I know i would. i love some of you but not others. dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From guile at xxx.br Tue Jul 27 08:00:04 1999 From: guile at xxx.br (Guilherme Barrella) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 04:00:04 -0300 Subject: Sinister: Something about a waitress References: Message-ID: <379D58EF.D68ACB15@telnet.com.br> Hello sinisterines, I'd like to second the lovely suggestion of Chris Butler about the map with pins of cities and sinister people. Sinisterines of the world, unite and take over! (By the way, The Rescuers home page http://www.therescuers.net is so nice! Congratulations Chris...) Dave "The Moon Man" Jygsaw18 at aol.com wrote: > who else would like to let Oversized Stu tell us the secret of who the list > crush voters are? I know i would. I know I wouldn't. Why? Well, because I already know where my votes come from. It's me, me, me, me and me. Five times me. And tomorrow will be six. It's not a narcissistic thing, it's just that if I don't love me, who will? Anyway, I wish I could post something interesting to the list, some Looper concert review, some hopeless love story, some picnic anxiety comment, something about a bootleg, or a waitress, but I don't have anything like that to tell. That's me. Okay, I'll go now. Love, Gui PS - The sinister chat room is such a lovely place... I think I'm addicted to it. Hello everyone! PS 2 - Sorry Martin, I still don't have my real audio back. I'm such a crap A&R. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mariannebratlie at xxx.com Tue Jul 27 08:25:15 1999 From: mariannebratlie at xxx.com (Marianne Bratlie) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 00:25:15 PDT Subject: Sinister: On the nature of love... Message-ID: <19990727072517.56417.qmail@hotmail.com> .Good morning!!! (Justin-sorry for sending it directly to you the first time) Thought I for once should say a thing or two... first, a little story, once there was a boy and a girl, and they both loved very much a band called BelleandSebastian, they used to mail eachother almost every day, but they had never really met, untill one day, the boy said as a joke (because they lived in different countries)- "we`re having a party saturday, and you`re invited,"- the girl answered, "how about you cancelling the party and come see me in Paris saturday (she was going on a vacation)? " The boy surprised the girl and himself by saying, "why not"? -so they met in Paris the very same week, and had a fine day wandering the streets of Paris.( The party was cancelled anyway) (Sorry if Paul already told you while I were in France.) So, the point is-I have met my first "sinister person", and I had a great time, hope I will get the chance to meet more of you lovely people. Just want to say that listening to Stuart while bicycling through the great nature of France was a perfect way of spending the summer wasting. Lovely fields of sunflowers etc. Wanted to say a thing or two about the "discussion" going on about "perfect love", as I strangly enough have given this a thought especially the last month. As I see it, there is "two kinds of love". The one where you get speachless the moment you see him (her), and you can`t think of anything else but this person, and the other kind, where you meet someone, you like spending time with the person , and even though you don`t feel the "thing", (maybe a little, but not very strongly) you think that you will grow close to this person, and it`s worth giving it a shot. The perfect love for me would be the person I feel the "thing" for, AND can have a great time with, doing stuff, laughing together, crying together ...etc -but this never happends, because when one is having a big crush on someone, ( he might be totally "unsuitable " for you, friends, way of living etc)- every time you see him, you can`t think of anything to say, and if you do, it`s just crap, . Whenever you do get along with someone, everything can seem perfect, except for that you haven`t got the right feeling, what I have called the "thing". You wish you had, but it`s not controllable.You can`t force yourself to feel something. Usually when you do get along, and feel in love, it`s not mutual. Oh God, I`m so negative. Sorry. Anyway, I think this is one of the choices you must take going into a relationship, to give it a try even if you are not feeling the big thing,(you will at some point get close to the person) or wait for it. (THE person)(which can take a long time, it might not even happen) I`ll stop now, this is getting out of hand. Just one more thing, too often I see married couples who bore eachother, so in my opinnion - one of the most important things,through a longlasting relationship, is that you have a good time while beeing togerther. (Ok, I guess not many people hang on to eachother having a bad time together, but do you know what I mean anyway ??Laughter is important.) That`s what I`ve got to say about that issue. Hm, i`s sunny outside, better get off the computer. Have a nice day!! Marianne ----------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sav_one at xxx.com Tue Jul 27 08:35:05 1999 From: sav_one at xxx.com (Darren Savage) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 00:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: humour Message-ID: <19990727073505.17069.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Morning This is very funny > A duck walks into a bar and says "Got any bread?" > > And the barman says "No" > > And the duck says "Got any bread?" > > And the barman "No" > > Got any bread?" > > I said, N-O NO!" > > Got any bread?" > > For cryin' out loud - N O spells NO and I mean NO!!" > > Got any bread?" > > NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!! > > " Got any bread?" > > "look, if you ask me one more fucking time if I've got any bread, I'm going to nail your fucking beak to the fucking bar! ! WE HAVE NO FUCKING BREAD! ! !" > > "Got any nails?" > > "No!" > > "Got any bread?" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pinaplcrsh at xxx.com Tue Jul 27 11:03:51 1999 From: Pinaplcrsh at xxx.com (Pinaplcrsh at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 06:03:51 EDT Subject: Sinister: On the nature of love... Message-ID: In a message dated 99-07-26 13:52:52 EDT, you write: << So my question is this. Is there such a thing as the "perfect" mate? I have my own ideas on this, but I was wondering what some of you kids thought. >> i completely believe in the idea of there being a perfect someone for everyone. i don't think that the person fits all the criteria that you think you want when you think of your perfect someone. i think that what the perfect someone is when you find them eventually becomes perfect to you. i also think that, unfortunately, you don't always end up with your perfect someone. i've found the perfect one for me and too bad for me she's not aware yet that we're each other's perfect someones. i hope that she figures it out soon because i miss her. i saw her tonight at the bratmobile show and couldn't talk to her. it was miserable. i don't know why people like to write songs about unrequited love. it's a fucking awful thing. i suggest staying away from love as much as possible. if you never love anyone then you never give them the chance to not love you in return. that's my advice for the day, however un-tw*e it is. hope all is well with all of you. *alyssa marie* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Tue Jul 27 11:19:20 1999 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (katrina house) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:19:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Chart Scandal References: <19990726205308.14023.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <379D87A8.1F21E1EA@jeepster.co.uk> hi list, actually, 'tigermilk' came out the week after the our price/virgin megastore debacle (thankfully) so the chart position was indeed correct. i wanted to write something about this whole 'nature of love' thing, but i think i'm still trying to work it all out. i don't think there is one perfect person, i think that there could be more than one person who could be the right one, it just depends on what you do during the relationship as to whether it will work out or not. ambiguous? yep ... sorry. as much as i think some people would like to know who voted for them in the list crush, there might be others out there who voted 'properly' and only with the though that there crush would never be discovered. therefore, surely it is unfair on those who voted with their hearts. but on the other hand, i'm not one for tiptoeing around hoping against hope that the person they fancies somehoe finds out without them having to be too forthcoming. so, maybe exposing those shy voters could only lead to requited crushes ... ? salako aren't playing london this week, we're hoping to put some dates in at the end of september, which i'm sure you'll hear about in future jeepster news messages ... this seems like a good as time as any to tell you all that i too will be unsubbing from sinister when i leave jeepster next week (friday 6th). i'm off to glasgow and i don't think my hotmail account can cope with even sinister digests, but hopefully i'll be back again some day. thanks to everyone whose helped the band + jeepster + me over the past few years, i've met some ace people on this list from all over the world, it's a lovely little community. well done honey :) lastly, i've got some sodastream 7's available for mailorder, if anyone's interested, please mail me at katrinahouse at hotmail.com maybe see you around ... cheers, katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ po box 14153, london, sw11 4xu, u.k. tel: 0171 924 2324, fax: 0171 924 6161 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Tue Jul 27 13:10:13 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:10:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Sinister - meetup possibility? Message-ID: <001b01bed828$fbfce920$03cbb0c2@default> Hi folks, Just a quickie, Anyone up for a Fun Lovin Criminals meetup at the Barrowlands in December? I know it's a bit far off, but how about it? cheerio, -- Jason Andreas -- The Romantic Scotsman -- -- Smile, it's worth the effort -- { jasonandreas at breathemail.net } -- contact me ... oh yes! -- -- Spammers WILL be shot... -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From StephenJH at xxx.net Tue Jul 27 13:59:26 1999 From: StephenJH at xxx.net (Stephen Heister) Date: 27 Jul 99 05:59:26 PDT Subject: Sinister: On the nature of ..........."things" Message-ID: <19990727125926.27307.qmail@www0b.netaddress.usa.net> Hello People, ummm.. For some strange reason I felt it nessecary to put my two bits in on this semi-personal disscusion on the nature of love. All this talk about feelings and things for people lead me to wonder wheather these emotions are attached or just float nearby. The problem is that there isn't two kinds of love. There are infinte kinds of love. Love has a different meaning to everyone. For some it is mutal respect, for others just good freindship. For some people it means sex, or when a moment stretches out into a dance of a thousand sensations. The idea is though is if you are looking for someone to "complete" you then odds are you will be dissapointed. The problem being that no one can complete you except you. If you don't have some idea of who "you" are then the signifcant other isn't going to either. Anyway that is just my idea. B&S content.. The map idea sounds lovely except..... That is how "they" are going to find us, when we have to go underground.. Stephen Heister StephenJH at netscape.net "Hi, I'm the Local Reject." ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andrewt at xxx.com Tue Jul 27 14:26:37 1999 From: andrewt at xxx.com (Andrew Tracey) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:26:37 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The perfect love Message-ID: <29AA5A0E3A0CD21196F300A0C9D8575C88836C@WROX3> Hey up Sinisterines All this talk of a 'perfect love' (or should that be 'the perfect love') set me thinking. I used to subscribe to the perfect love theory but then I realised that I don't even know myself thoroughly yet, new facets of my personality reveal themselves and force me to re-evaluate who I am. Therefore, someone who I consider to be the 'perfect match' for today's Andrew may not be perfect for tomorrow's Andrew. Perfection is relative, it's not a constant. The upshot of this line of discourse is this, accept the 'best-fit' scenario. Like someone, love someone but prepared to be disappointed when you wake up one morning and realise you don't want to be with them anymore. Also prepare yourself for the morning they reach the same conclusion about you. You may 'click' with someone for a while and then go off them. Enjoy the ride while it lasts, don't mourn the future which never happens. Then look for someone else to click with. Or be content clicking with yourself. I'm sorry, I don't know what that last sentence meant either. By the way, adorning the front cover of this month's 'Men's Fitness' magazine is Keith Richards. No finer example of a healthy body than that. bye for now Andrew (whose current favourite Tigermilk moment is 47 seconds into Mary Jo when Stuart goes Cockney for a couple of seconds) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Tue Jul 27 10:41:12 1999 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 02:41:12 -0700 Subject: Sinister: you indie kids are cheeky monkeys Message-ID: hello folks, ailsa was relying on my dubious mathematics when she said: > Did you know that according to someone I am going to All Tamara's > Ponies with that the members of our chalet account for more than 10% > of all list crush votes cast. I quite believe it, we are all great. to which vertically unchallenged stu cheekily countered: > Which of course is categorically NOT the result of the members of > your chalet all voting for each other. Anyone who's going to Camber, > make sure you find out where their chalet is, it sounds like there'll > be some group-loving to spy on. which finally explains just what nick dastoor was doing outside our bowlie chalet at three in the morning two nights running. stu also suggested: > I'll bet a higher proportion of Tigermilks were sold at Virgin than > at Woolworths. So I reckon the true chart position should have been > even higher (after all, the HMV in-store chart had it at number 4, and > at Tower Records I'm told it was number 1). did woolworths stock tigermilk? i only ask because (as i'm sure many of you will remember) they refused to stock TBWTAS when jeepster wouldn't give them a discount like they get from the big record companies. that might be another reason why it charted lower than it probably should have done, and don't forget that the pre-sales from the jeepster site won't have gone towards the chart position either. all things considered it's pretty amazing that it got as high as it did. CarSmileSteve: > Something about listening to "Friday, I'm in Love" in sixth grade.... > HOW OLD DO I FEEL NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was my big fave record the > first term I was at Uni. alas i can clearly remember hearing "the walk" being played on the top 40 on radio one back in the days when tommy vance still presented it, and yet i regularly walk to the kitchen and forget why by the time i get there. Theresa introduced herself in style by saying: > Society seems to have a problem with female onanism. Mastubation is a > good thing and should be encouraged, taught in schools even. Or not. > perhaps i should go out more often. and went on to mention that she will be going to all tomorrow's parties. well, i know which chalet's windows i'll be peering through. for purely educational purposes you understand. kevan fat slug Have you Rooled? http://www.roolz.ukf.net/ *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Snowinsumr at xxx.com Tue Jul 27 17:40:01 1999 From: Snowinsumr at xxx.com (Snowinsumr at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:40:01 EDT Subject: Sinister: on the subject of love and list crushes: simple words to mend the soul. Message-ID: dear "i'm scared of boys" diary... stephen heister wrote: >>The idea is though is if you are looking for >>someone to "complete" you then odds are you will be >>disappointed. The problem being that no one can complete >>you except you. If you don't have some idea of who >>"you" are then the significant other isn't going to either. >>Anyway that is just my idea. i completely agree...i just wanted to commend stephen on how beautifully put that was...it all goes back to my idea of what love and relationships should be, in a sense... for me...i do not want someone that i "need" to be with...as i think that dependency is the weakness that too many people fall to nowadays...because for me...i cannot be with someone unless i "want" to be with them...wanting to be with someone is so much more meaningful...because you are saying, "i could live my life alone...but you are so incredibly special...that i would like to share mine with you...if you will have me..." whilst needing someone is not special at all...in that state of mind ANYONE will do...and for me...love is not having just ANYONE in your life...it is having THE ONE...someone you respect and someone that respects you... stephen also wrote: >>The problem is that >>there isn't two kinds of love. There are >>infinite kinds of love. Love has a different >>meaning to everyone. admiration + respect + trust= meganelise's idea of love. (influenced by hal hartley's film "trust") as you can see "need" does not add into this equation... and i believe that i have started to ramble...so i digress... (i hope that made sense...as maeris is tickling my feet with his whiskers and it's hard to type when i am laughing so hard...) Dave "The Moon Man" Jygsaw18 at aol.com wrote: >>who else would like to let Oversized Stu tell us the secret >>of who the list crush voters are? I know i would. meganelise blushes, gathers up all of her courage and says shyly, "i'll just tell...my list crush is dr. nick morton." shy hugs. meganelise ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "i wish you could put your ear up to my heart and hear how much i love you." ten minutes of self-indulgence... http://www.angelfire.com/mn/shycaterpillar ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jfowle at xxx.edu Tue Jul 27 18:01:57 1999 From: jfowle at xxx.edu (jfowle at xxx.edu) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:01:57 -0400 Subject: Sinister: photo jenny Message-ID: wow i finally have a voice! oh, happy day. i am very excited to be able to bore you all with my life's antics. so, yes, my name is jenny, or jen or some other derivitive of jennifer. i really don't mind, but i am rather pleased to be in a song, altho lisa is the star of quite a number of songs which come to mind... i'm a lazy student at the university of michigan in ann arbor. i spend most of my time listening to music, introducing people to the wonderful world of B&S, oh, and going to my classes, writing letters, playing in the sun. i went to the looper show in detroit a couple of weeks ago which was great fun, altho it did start late, and my feet were tired after standing all night. since then i've seen several people from the show around campus.interesting... but that's not all...! actually, it is. there's not much to say at this point. at least not in regards to belle and sebastian. besides that i'm rather hungry and am toying with the idea of getting some food before class. humph, it's a beautiful day and i don't know why i'm sitting inside at the computer! -j. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marcobraca at xxx.it Tue Jul 27 19:02:59 1999 From: marcobraca at xxx.it (marcobraca at xxx.it) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:02:59 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Revision Message-ID: <933094979.webexpressdV2.1.3@mail.libero.it> Hi sinisters , for those who don't know me i present myself : i'm Marco#7 , i'm italian , 25 years........... I'm in the list 'till august '98 , i don't write very often ( never) , but i read you all days! Welcome to the new members , and "ben ritrovati" to the old members ( especially Sarah and Mark C.). Tigermilk :a genuine work of art, my prefer songs are Expectations and She's losing it. E.R. genial , but too much effects , too much . In the last two weeks i had see : R.E.M. , Pavement , Deus, Suede and Wilco . All great except Wilco ( first time in Italy) , they played only 3 songs and then the singer ( full of alcohol or may be drugs) said goodbye and went away. I said beautiful!!! The other wilco opened one's arms with a "- Sorry , goodbye ".That's all. I hope that B&S will play in Italy this year , in February i was in Glasgow and i met Stu.M. and Stevie and they said that we'll probably play in Italy this year , so..........i'm waiting!!! For all , this is my new e-mail : marcobraca at libero.it cheers, Marco#7. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com Tue Jul 27 18:07:39 1999 From: Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com (Jim Schmidt) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 99 10:07:39 MST Subject: Sinister: add n to (x) subtract b&s (read: no b&s content) Message-ID: <9906279330.AA933095596@mail.newtimes.com> this has absolutely nothing to do with belle & sebastian... i just wanted to warn everybody that add n to (x) are going to take over the world. if you have the chance to see them live, do it for your insanity. i'm still high the day after. the image of bare-chested barry perched upon some electronic thingamajig twisting knobs will be forever burned into my hard drive. a theremin is thrown to the ground like a burnt-out guitar. steve jumps maniacally to and fro while ann plays it cool and motions "one more time"...this is sound of computers f***ing, sometimes making love, perhaps contemplating the fate of us mortals while laughing. if anyone knows of a mailing list or has additional info, please contact me personally. i apologize for bugging the list, but i noted that katrina was listening to them a while back and i thought maybe others on this list were into them as well. blownmindjim. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Tue Jul 27 20:36:32 1999 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:36:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Marine Research meet up, London bla bla Message-ID: Hello people, Umm...a shock useful post from me, but only if you're in London on Thursday and intending to see Marine Research. (All of the information contained hereinafter is not the author's responsibility and completely the responsibility of Jim - he of infamous purple trousers) Marine Research are playing the Camden Falcon Thursday, doors open 7.30 pm and MR on at 8.15 pm. They are playing before Brassy who is John Spencers's sister's band and Venini which is ex-Pulp man Russell Senior's band. Tickets are £5 (£4 with concessions). The plan is to meet up at the pub opposite the Falcon which has an Eagle and another word in it's name. If you know this word you're a better person than I. The address of the Falcon is 234 Royal College Street so the pub will probably be similar. Jim will be there at 6.45 pm precisely and will great any friendly faces with open arms. He will be wearing his Jim issue purple trousers and a Mogwai T-shirt. I'll be there about 7 hopefully wearing something clean if I do some washing and maybe even ironed but I doubt it. Anyone quick enough to read this can tune in to Mr Steve Lamacq on United Kingdom's Radio 1 and hear the new Marine Research single around 9. Other news. Fluffy Starry Supercalifadgeristicexpialodosious Sarah, your big huge fucking post on the Jeepster message board has been wiped due to incorrect proceedures. Just to let you know so you can put it back again. Umm..that's all folks I think. Te ra, Martin ear confection recordings http://www.send.demon.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jimgrund at xxx.fr Tue Jul 27 20:42:36 1999 From: jimgrund at xxx.fr (Jan Imgrund) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:42:36 +0200 Subject: Sinister: I'm a soulmate Message-ID: <199907271943.VAA19268@front4.grolier.fr> >> Anyway,to business.Brandt was wondering about a "perfect" mate.I think you'll find that if such creatures existed there would be no relationships.Ever.We'd all be waiting for the perfect person.The best anyone gets is"good enough" or "the best I'm going to get".In my somewhat limited experience anyway. << Well I am reluctant to say so, because no one will believe me, but I think I indeed have found the perfect mate.. a soulmate, *the* soulmate. But I am not in love with her, and she‘s not in love with me... can one be in love with one‘s soulmate? It‘s probably a question of definition: I would say one can‘t, because there is too much harmony in such a relationship. The way I see it, for a love, there always must be some tension, some difference... and that‘s of course also the reason why it‘s likely to fall apart at some stage. But with a soulmate, it‘s different.. the way I am feeling now, this is something that can never break up again; the reason perhaps being that we do not feel any kind of duty for each other to stay together, or, to put it simply: Where there is no love, there is no way the love could go away. You can imagine perhaps that I have had a hard time explaining this special kind of relationship to others: it is nothing that fits into any kind of conception society usually stuffs one into. (It‘s not either a „platonic friendship“, because, ho-hum... of the lack of platonicity..) Often I just say she‘s my girlfriend, to go out of the way of complicated explanations. We did not know what to call it either until she‘s come up with calling me her „companion“. I like that. I think that‘s it. We are companions. Maybe it‘s a little like what was going on between JP Sartre and Simone... though I cannot really tell, because I have not read much about what their relationship was like. But of course this kind of thing also has its problems, especially: what happens if one of us falls in love with someone different? I for one still feel that I could very well love someone else, and, even though we have been saying that we don‘t have to be true to one another, she would certainly be jealous.. as would I in the opposite case. what‘s more, as we are sharing a flat right now, having a third person in „our“ life would lead to some practical difficulties. Concerning „real“ love, I agree to what Marianne said about the two kinds of love. I have had a few times *this* crush feeling for someone, bt most of the time I knew perfectly well that this could never lead to a relationship... and I did not even try to make it into one. Which means: I had my crush, and I did not do anything, and eventually the feeling would fade. I still think that this was wise, though it was also cowardish (cowardy? cowardly?? sorry for my english) Once, though, the feeling was so strong that I tried my luck anyway, and it ended in a predictable disaster... And the times that there was a proper relationship, there was sometimes this feeling of something missing, as Marianne said. I probably expect too much from love... I don‘t know. Sometimes I miss being in love, for I have not been in love for quite a long time... but, on the other hand, what I have now is so very much; there is nothing to complain about. I am a happier man now than I ever thought I could be. Well... so there. I just wanted to share. I‘m afraid there is nothing to be learned from all this; just, perhaps, that love, relationship, is different for everyone and that you only run into problems if you try to figure out what to call your feelings. This does not need names or classifications. Just be as sincere as you can. Oh sorry, that sounds cheesy. Oh, BTW, does anyone know from whom the sentence is: „It‘s better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all“? I‘m ashamed to ask, because it‘s so famous.. but please, have patience with my lack of knowledge. Regards, Jan The Dark Site of the Moon: http://perso.club-internet.fr/jimgrund/index.html Tindersticks page: http://perso.club-internet.fr/jimgrund/tinderpage/tinder.html To love oneself is the beginning of a lifelong romance. -Oscar Wilde +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From marcusomond at xxx.com Tue Jul 27 20:55:02 1999 From: marcusomond at xxx.com (Marcus Omond) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:55:02 PDT Subject: Sinister: The loneliness of a long-play record Message-ID: <19990727195504.54754.qmail@hotmail.com> hello, my lovelies, i was bored earlier today (having nothing to do until your silly university sends you your reading list can get a touch dull) so i had a look through all my dad's old seven inches. i don't actually like seven inches that much - i don't think they're as pretty as cds, and twelve inches are much cooler. why didn't sixties bands put things on twelves? but i digress... anyway, the wonderful 'loneliness of a middle distance runner' was going through my head, and my heart jumped up a notch when i found one of those soft seven inch things that i think used to be used for promos et cetera - they're all floppy when you shake them around. and it was called 'the loneliness of a long play record (33 1/3 rpm)'. and so i rushed over to the vinyl machine and laid it down. i was greeted by the voice of one mister john lennon, and then yoko came in - they were babbling about giving up drugs, and how beethoven was the way forward or something. then they started singing weird lyrics over the top of beethoven's fifth... bizarre. but then it started sounding really excited and jumpy, and so i pulled it off... hope i haven't scratched it - ouch, that would hurt (when my dad finds out i mean... ;) ). so, does anyone know if this has anything to do with mr stuart 'sexy arms' murdoch's masterpiece? or are they both just reffering to the novella. it's kind of funny that - two of the three greatest songwriters of this century using the same words (almost) in a song title... i wonder if dylan ever refferred to it... now that WOULD be spooky... hmm... list crushes... is it possible to find out who's voted for who? i can't really see how it could be, seeing as you don't type in your name or anything. or maybe i'm underestimating the powers of big brother (and big stu). anyway, i'd be ruined if it was disclosed who i'd voted for. i'm a complete list-slut - i've voted for at least five people. but they all deserve it, because they're all either cute or funny or both. mainly both. especially the gorgeous, sexy, to-die-for geoff... (hope swedish becka got a photo of me kissing him - my finest hour :) ) oh, and i've noticed a problem in the list-crush - both geoff and i are down under two names, and so we don't see our true position reflected. it's not fair! ;) oh yes - i'm very interested in looper's shop performance - it sounds beautiful. if anyone has got it, please mail me privately, and i'll trade you whatever you want from my anorak's collection of b&s thingies. or some dylan. oh, and all you thousands of sinisteroonies i've promised tapes to, they're all on their way (slowly). only ten or so more to go... meganelise is absolutely right about love when she said: >admiration + respect + trust= meganelise's idea of love. (influenced >by >hal hartley's film "trust") >as you can see "need" does not add into this equation... i haven't seen a hartley film ever (phillistine!), but this sounds really right to me. it's not good (for me at least) when someone's going on about needing you and how you're their life and things. i mean, it's flattering at the start, but after a while it just gets annoying (i have this problem with my ickle sister). in fact, in my view the best way it's ever been put is in 'simple things' - 'if you want me, i'll be there' - he's being selfless and supportive rather than saying 'i need you'. and this shows he loves her. my favorite listee by along way explains this much better in her post a while ago about joyce's 'a portrait of the artist as a young man'. oh, i laughed very loud and for a long time earlier today after reading the last paragraph of kevan cooke's post. thank you for cheering up my day :) um, i think that's all i've got to say. hope to see lots of you on primrose hill on saturday - i'll bring booze and crisps. oh, and 'ma vie en rose' is the most beautiful film i've seen in a long time, and i want children that pretty and sensitive. and i won't mind if they cross dress at all. i used to cross dress, actually. natasha can confirm i looked rather fetching in a nurses uniform aged six... i'll go now - love to all (does anyone else have this problem with defining love words - 'going out', 'dating', 'boyfriend/girlfriend', 'in love', 'love' at the end of letters, 'love' proper? english is a twisted and difficult language when it comes to loving. maybe that's part of the reason that the brits are traditionally seen as repressed when it comes to sex... discuss... (sorry, trying to get in the mood for essays after a year of slacking)), love and kisses (if you want them...) Marcus XXX ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koogy at xxx.uk Tue Jul 27 21:44:32 1999 From: koogy at xxx.uk (andrew dean) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:44:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: re: marine research london thursday (no b&s) Message-ID: <379E1A30.CB777098@clara.co.uk> ok, not b&s but i can't email starry herself cos she's awol in london somewhere starry wrote: >A few of us are going to have a meet-up before the Marine Research >shennanigans on the 29th, but flip knows whats going on there. Best mail >me or Alix Campbell if you want to come along. Me and Alix and Miss >Erica Miss and Johnk and his harem of laydee-friends are going. Martin >Rissotto, drop me a life if you're coming too, you big smellface. and i just wanna warn people who may be attending - i got email from amelia yesterday* and she said that they are due to play for half an hour at 8:15 which is ridiculously early and i wouldn't want anyone to miss them. so get there early. better still, have the meetup at the falcon, armpit though it is. *nice namedropping here. less impressive when you realise that the entire marine research list got the post and not just me but hey... she did, however, reply to my reply asking just when the gig was (she forgot to mention the date in her post) and she agreed i was cute when forced at gunpoint by my girlfriend in los angeles... oh, i sent her everything anybody had posted here about MR in america too. andy who has an interview in hammersmith at 5:15 that afternoon and who may or may not be there later. send me meetup details please lixxy. 8) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lost_madflowr at xxx.com Wed Jul 28 01:15:10 1999 From: lost_madflowr at xxx.com (lost madflowr) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:15:10 PDT Subject: Sinister: when did b&s cover the smiths? and hello to nyc/dc loopers Message-ID: <19990728001511.45729.qmail@hotmail.com> okay, i'm trying to figure out when b&s covered the smiths "reel around the fountain", if they did indeed cover that. i just need the date of the show and the venue if you have that info! i don't think i have that b&s show. hmm. so yeah! i had a lovely time meeting up with so many lovely sinisterites this past week. in dc i didn't make it out to the fox and the hounds like i hoped i would. i was running behind! at the dc show i met up with eran and jennifer pulpbot [who i need to go record shopping with],Walkn10 Steve and the christa/dan/ lesley j[why do i always want to write lesley jo... is that wrong?? sheesh]. oh and i am sure a number of other people that night. i just wanted to say that looper are fan[knee]tastic and they completely jumped up spots in my book of favourite bands. i liked them before but now each day i'm waking up humming up a tree again. it's perfect music to remind you to loosen up. i must say that winter wooksie [now that i typed it i think i spelled it wrong]is lovely and made me smile. and i adore the Y2K song. wonder what will happen then. oh well. my bf taped the dc show and i am sure we could work out some sort of tape tree if there are a couple of people who want it. ummm and i think i'm getting the philly looper show and the nyc show too soon. we'll see. oh sorry to do this but go to www.underworld.net/~madflowr/trade.html if you're interested in a trade [no way do i sell my bootlegs...evil to do that]. okay. phwoar. ummm... oh and NYC!! ! i can't decide if i liked dc or nyc better. i felt so very sick at the nyc show. pity i wasn't sick during khan. mary ann didn't believe he'd strip...but HE DID. geez, he's a bit frightening. i just thought it was hilarious they were chosen to open for looper...since the crowd was fairly tame. oh if anyone in dc is going to see mogwai on 1 september... you will see me there! meet up anyone? i think steve's going. hmm. anyone else? lovely. and my stomach stopped hurting the moment i got on the bus back home to virginia. isnt that sad? i had a lovely time on long island though on saturday night. my friends and i stayed up til like 4 am watching HomeShoppingNetwork = THE DOLL SHOW and cracking up. it is seriously frightening. there was a doll called the gremlin doll...well not really...but it LOOKED like a gremlin. the bad ones! scary! okay i should really do my paper now even though it's due on thursday. i might see blair witch project tomorrow. we'll see if i get my act together. sorry for clogging a bit. oh i got marie and her friend confused oh man shite i wanted to say that yes she does remind me of wee karn. meep! ohoh one final note ---nyc record shops are so much better than any in dc/va. i picked up sfa's latest album "guerrilla" for a mere $1.07. yes that is 107 pennies kids. i am in love... and they are playing maxwells fairly soon...im not sure if theyre touring again but they put on an incredible live show. not to be missed! evol, madflowr _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pulpbot at xxx.com Wed Jul 28 04:33:54 1999 From: Pulpbot at xxx.com (Pulpbot at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:33:54 EDT Subject: Sinister: Come Together Message-ID: It really irks me how undiscussed female masturbation is. It's crazy how many of my gal friends have these rambunctious sex lives, and yet none admits to molding the silly putty (I admit I just made that up, thanx). A few have said somethin along the lines of, oh it tickles or they just get tired. I'm of the thought that if you know your body and how you get off, so much the better sex is. Clueless boys (or other girls, 'course) shouldn't be expected to make everything kosher and slippy. I could rant forever about society's confused standards regarding sex and women, but, anyway...teaching it in schools is such a brilliant idea, though it brings that one Monty Python movie to mind. Everyone go practice on some blueberries or something. Jennifer "I Don't Love Anyone" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gabi77 at xxx.br Wed Jul 28 05:04:15 1999 From: gabi77 at xxx.br (Gabriela Sampaio) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 01:04:15 -0300 Subject: Sinister: Who you're gonna call? Ghostbusters! Message-ID: <01BED895.FCBFAF60@ch31m36.sol.com.br> Dear Listerines, Before I forget, I have to tell you. One week ago I had my first b&s nightmare... with "Poltergeist" elements even. It all started when I turned on the TV to watch a Belle&Sebastian video (I don't know which one, I haven't seen any so far :( ). I was very excited but I couldn't see it because the tv wasn't working. I mean, all I got was that "rain" , you know, the same thing that happened to Caroline's TV in Poltergeist. I was told then that my TV couldn't show that video because the only channel I had belonged to the Catholic TV that didn't allow the b&s video to be on because they considered it heretic (!!). The song was about a little girl that died. That broke my heart. The next morning I wake up with the phone ringing... It was David Kitchen (!!) saying that he was sorry that I couldn't watch that video and that he was going to talk to that owner of that Catholic channel. Suddenly I hear a little girl's voice on the phone... And here comes the next Poltergeist ingredient... It was the dead girl from Belle&Sebastian's song! Just like it happened to caroline... I can't remember exactly what she told me... maybe that she was sorry I couldn't watch the video as well... But hey... wasn't that weird? That's what you get for going to bed listening to "Beautiful"?? I still haven't figured that dream out... Maybe Freud explains (Oh... I'm Electra...!). xxx and sweet dreams! Gabi ICQ# 8042374 "Only the shallow know themselves" Oscar Wilde +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kissingdom at xxx.net Wed Jul 28 09:06:36 1999 From: kissingdom at xxx.net (Tony) Date: 28 Jul 99 09:06:36 BST Subject: Sinister: Meet Up Message-ID: <19990728080636.10801.qmail@nwcst277.netaddress.usa.net> Is anyone else going to see Barefoot Contessa tonight upstairs @ The Garage ? For those who haven't seen them they're like a Spanish Mazzy Star. TC ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From messentw at xxx.uk Wed Jul 28 12:14:22 1999 From: messentw at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?William=20Messent?=) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:14:22 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Take the heat off me for a while... Message-ID: <19990728111422.16806.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Hullo everybody, Stuart Gardiner wrote; "I propose we get Pete Waterman to investigate..." Fantastic idea. We could even turn it into a weekly serial, entitled 'Pete Waterman Investigates', in which our hero , an unconventional ex-cop/'hitman' solves chart-rigging mysteries, aided by his bumbling sidekick Michaela Strachan. Wicked. I'll probably watch 'Eyes Wide Shut' when it comes out over here. I saw a review of it, I think it may have been in The Star (an awful UK tabloid - I don't recall exactly *why* I was reading it). Anyway, this was a three word review, reading simply "Eyes wide shit". And that was it. And I must confess, dear readers, I laughed. Out loud. Don't be asking me about perfect mates. I'm going on a date tonight with a lovely girl who owns a clothes shop and lives on a boat. I've fancied her for ages. We're going to hers for food and booze, but I have a question: what is the accepted etiquette when it comes to driving to somebody's house (or boat), and drinking? I want to get drunk with her, but doing so will mean staying over, and I don't want her to think I'm just after a shag. What do I do/say at that crucial point, after a couple of vodka & tonics, when I know if I drink anymore I won't be able to drive home? Umm. A taxi isn't really an option, as she lives miles away. Your thoughts please. You know how much they mean to me. Love Will x === _____________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Jul 28 12:26:27 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:26:27 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Edubation Message-ID: <01bed8ec$090bc3c0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> I agree that female masturbation is a criminally under-discussed matter, and that the list is an ideal forum for just such a discussion. I hope all the girls feel comfortable enough here to tell us about any aspect of masturbation they'd like to talk about, in a warm, welcoming environment. I particularly hope no one was put off by Kevan Cooke's typically immature response to what is undoubtedly a serious topic, ripe for a lengthy in-depth thread covering all the bases, from basic masturbatory technique to elaborate fantasies, possibly involving Stuart Murdoch, who I feel sure would approve. It's about time we got over all these silly taboos. They are relics from the Victorian Age and have no place in modern society. Speaking of masturbation, the other day I was searching the Internet Movie Database when I stumbled upon this intriguing title: "L'Amour Aux Troussés", a 1974 thriller known in English as: "Hot Acts of Love". Trousers, what have you been up to? Think of the neighbours! Oh well, at least it wraps up Steady Mike's fantastic How Did Trousers Get His Name competition, although I'm not quite sure how. Hey Tim, why don't The Visitors team up with Piezoleptic Unit? You could call yourselves The Visigoths. Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pairlie at xxx.uk Wed Jul 28 13:01:00 1999 From: pairlie at xxx.uk (Peter Airlie) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:01:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: They're Calling It? Message-ID: <008c01bed8f0$dbb1b600$16222486@markfive.dyn.computing.dundee.ac.uk> Perhaps female masturbation would be less of a taboo subject if there were more widely used euphemisms for it. This could be a chicken and egg situation I'm not sure. I only suggest this because I recently compiled a top ten of B&S related euphemisms for male masturbation and found quite a few to choose from. Pondering a similar female top ten I tried to think of terms I have previously heard that could be given a B&S angle but was lost for inspiration. (Actually looking at my original top ten quite a few are gender non-specific but there is still a dearth of commonly used terms.) The official word was that my top ten was too dirty for the band page but maybe it just wasn't funny enough. As this is my first post I have a feeling I'm giving you all a very bad impression of me. Peter "It was the biggest quiff that small town beatings would allow for. " +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed Jul 28 14:28:57 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:28:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Poisoning Pigeons in the Park Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E228258EC@server1.HITEntertainment.com> An open letter to Frenchie out of "Grease": A couple of inspirational things from the last three digests (I've been too busy escorting two of Sinister's brightest young things around strange suburban sunshiney places to reply more recently). I have spent the last few months absolutely convinced that the Romantic Scotsman has "SpaNNers will be shot" at the end of his mails. I felt dumb, as usual, not getting the in-joke I was sure everyone else was laughing at. Either that or he retains an irrational hatred of the geeky kids from school (I'm pretty sure that's what a spanner was when I were a lad), which would probably be unwise on this list :) The whole thing about love, though. I for one am nowhere near secure enough in myself to believe that there is such thing as a perfect mate, mainly because the concept fundamentally precludes there being more than one. If I had to enter any relationship thinking that either this was the One, and thus about to become the centre of my life for the rest of my days, or wasn't the One, in which case why bother, I'd be either too terrified or too disillusioned (or, more correctly, a frighteningly unhealthy mix of the two) to remain capable of having a grown-up, genuine kind of love. Having said all that, I am currently basking in the glow of a fantastic, doubt-free relationship with a fellow sinisterine and I'd be more than delighted if this whole love thang proves me wrong :) Moving on...at Camber Sands you'll be able to recognise me as the one trying to stop Kevan being arrested for Peeping Tomsmanship, and the only member of my chalet who won't be offered any of Nick Dastoor's wares, though I am going with a pocket full of loose change in the off chance. Add N to (x) - whatever else they are, they're bloomin' loud. I saw them last autumn in NYC with Queen Bee Janine (whose absence from the list is a sad sad thing), and they were quite astonishing(ly loud). And very good in a kind of, erm, challenging way. The best bit was Anne from the band seeing my Stow t-shirt and chatting about how good B&S are - in fact, to this day, she's the only person who's ever approached me because of a B&S related item I've been wearing... Props to the Muji-fiends (I hear the silk pyjamas are quite fine), Mark xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mariannebratlie at xxx.com Wed Jul 28 15:12:54 1999 From: mariannebratlie at xxx.com (Marianne Bratlie) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 07:12:54 PDT Subject: Sinister: love and Celine Dion Message-ID: <19990728141258.76105.qmail@hotmail.com> ..hi I wrote a mail last night to say that I agree on lots of the things that has been said about love, it was mostly a re. to Jan I. to say that if he had "the" feeling for his soulmate friend it would be what i would call the perfect love. Anyway, I just won`t bother to say all the things I wrote about love, as I am tired, and it seems to be "over" with the subject. Just one thing, ..If you have ever been totally ...(some good english expression which I haven`t the knowledge to use is supposed to be here...)..in love., then you should be glad to have ever felt it. Imagine dying without ever having done so. (Glad even if you don`t "get" the person) The only problem is that you will still seek the same feeling later, and it can be a bit tricky-since this feeling is rare. Know what I mean?? .. I also said, (, funny enough -I saw someone else mention it as well.,in fact, in a mail written to sinister during the time I wrote mine-the very same lyric)..I love the sentence.."if you want me I`ll be there a boy,....but part of the deal, is for you to feel something". The last part is very true, a relationship must be "both ways". But I guess the problem can be that people like eachother in different "levels", there are many "grades" of liking someone. Maybe it`s not a problem. This became more than one thing, sorry. I also mentioned something quite different from the subject love, maybe I`ve said it before ? (in that case -write me an angry mail) �nyway, this is it: I know about a girl who has a goldcard in Celine Dion fanclub, she is really proud of it, an idea for us??? I don`t mean to say that people who like C. Dion are bad or something (..one must respect...etc)..but -a GOLDCARD??????????? It`s a good thing we all are different from eachother, or else the world would be quite boring. Then I`ll leave you all, (and hope my mail get`s through this time.) Take care Marianne ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mariannebratlie at xxx.com Wed Jul 28 15:16:35 1999 From: mariannebratlie at xxx.com (Marianne Bratlie) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 07:16:35 PDT Subject: Sinister: love and Celine Dion Message-ID: <19990728141645.61221.qmail@hotmail.com> ..hi I wrote a mail last night to say that I agree on lots of the things that has been said about love, it was mostly a re. to Jan I. to say that if he had "the" feeling for his soulmate friend it would be what i would call the perfect love. Anyway, I just won`t bother to say all the things I wrote about love, as I am tired, and it seems to be "over" with the subject. Just one thing, ..If you have ever been totally ...(some good english expression which I haven`t the knowledge to use is supposed to be here...)..in love., then you should be glad to have ever felt it. Imagine dying without ever having done so. (Glad even if you don`t "get" the person) The only problem is that you will still seek the same feeling later, and it can be a bit tricky-since this feeling is rare. Know what I mean?? .. I also said, (, funny enough -I saw someone else mention it as well.,in fact, in a mail written to sinister during the time I wrote mine-the very same lyric)..I love the sentence.."if you want me I`ll be there a boy,....but part of the deal, is for you to feel something". The last part is very true, a relationship must be "both ways". But I guess the problem can be that people like eachother in different "levels", there are many "grades" of liking someone. Maybe it`s not a problem. This became more than one thing, sorry. I also mentioned something quite different from the subject love, maybe I`ve said it before ? (in that case -write me an angry mail) �nyway, this is it: I know about a girl who has a goldcard in Celine Dion fanclub, she is really proud of it, an idea for us??? I don`t mean to say that people who like C. Dion are bad or something (..one must respect...etc)..but -a GOLDCARD??????????? It`s a good thing we all are different from eachother, or else the world would be quite boring. Then I`ll leave you all, (and hope my mail get`s through this time.) Take care Marianne ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Wed Jul 28 15:38:30 1999 From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Michael=20Jones?=) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 07:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Trinidad and Tobago ? Yes, I forced her to go. Message-ID: <19990728143830.27933.rocketmail@web127.yahoomail.com> Dear One-Finger Soloists, Well, sprinkle my brow with vinegar, I do believe we may be in for something of a spell as they used to say in the music halls. Just warm enough to wear indecent clothing, and a nice breeze to spirit away unsightly dampness. Precisely the sort of weather in which one should 'romp' in a 'meadow' with 'Susan Hampshire' to the strains of The Free Design. But first, this: I know there are a lot of Magnetic Fields fans on this list, which means there are an equal number of Magnetic Fields fans' brains on this list and it is into these brains I wish to place the following three-word phrase - Early Brian Eno. Whaddyasay ? An unconscious influence on the young Merritt ? It was my live-in pop consultant Lady P who first noticed this - a few songs from the "Taking Tiger Mountain..." era are strikingly similar in structure, production and vocal phrasing to the glorious Mags. Contradictory views to the usual address - don't forget to mark your envelope But That's Noodly ArtRock Dross You Moron. Of course, living with a Yankee Doodle Dandy means I find myself absorbing certain aspects of American Culture (it certainly isn't forced down my throat - except on one very literal occasion when she tried to choke me with a copy of The New Yorker, but that's all salmon under the aqueduct now). One of my favourite Crazy Things That Americans Do is their use of the definite article to invert a word's meaning. Hence: "bomb" - something of very poor quality that one might wish to avoid; "THE bomb" - really quite good ! "Shit" - contemptible, foul-smelling, rank, hopelessly dire; "THE shit" - utterly essential and excellent in all respects ! Isn't it great ? Oh sorry - isn't it THE dumb-ass ? PJ [Jim] "O'Rourke"['s Drift] Miller['s Crossing] had[daway] this [heat] to say [you love me just because you care]: > "L'Amour > Aux Troussés", a 1974 thriller known in English as: "Hot Acts of > Love". Trousers, what have you been up to? Think of the neighbours! > Oh > well, at least it wraps up Steady Mike's fantastic How Did Trousers > Get His Name competition, although I'm not quite sure how. Are you sure you don't mean "THE fantastic" ? But yes - you've blinking well gone and won... Visitors/Lucksmiths tape on its way to you as soon as you send me your address. Yes, that's the catch. William Messent formed these words from thin air: > I want to get > drunk with her, but doing so will mean staying over, and I don't > want > her to think I'm just after a shag. Get very, very drunk. So drunk that it really is quite obvious that you couldn't possible 'do' anything and she'll put you to bed. The following day you feel hugely unfulfilled and nauseous but you *may* get to see her in her bra. Remember to pack a camera. Thanks to my spiritual leader, Rik Mayall, for that last paragraph. B&S content: the beginning of "Slow Graffiti" is a close blood relative of "Tennessee Waltz". Apologies if this has been mentioned before and I missed it. What's an Arab Strap again ? Tindersticks (officially the only band worthy of taking the stage after Belle & Sebastian) were fabulous in Brixton last night. Almost all new material - and a whopping great soul influence this time around. I'll trust it to someone who can tell their Gayes from their Mayfields to be more specific about the sound of the forthcoming album, but it sounded like a peach to me. They were THE rubbish. Goodnight, Mike. _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Wed Jul 28 15:38:42 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:38:42 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Back to the SSSR Message-ID: Hey! I am back to the Sinister Republik, tovarich and tovarich-ladies.I finished not very sucessfully my work to be shown at the conference next week after a hard struggle vs. PowerPoint and Bill Gates' tricky tools.My poster, together with a picture of me, will be on at Imperial COllege next Tuesday, if anyone is interesting in a meet up and he/she is also a spanner.Please, I would not like to be shot now, Romantic Flying Scotsman. Not now because I am in love! All these discussions going on about L*O*V*E, and female masturbation lack totally of direct B&S content but are interesting, however...Well,the state that I am in about love and relationships is basically 'stupidization', so I am not going to be very objective.Maybe there is one more than 'person' , maybe as a friend of mine usually says : 'Imagine your half orange (the perfect partner in colloquial Spanish) is in Congo and you never popped in there and he never leaves Congo. What do you do then?'.I don't care about theories as I found him, and I cannot continue on this praising because it is going to be embarrasing and blushing and so on. Female masturbation is different. I am 'Continental' , or so I have been told in these Islands, so I can speak as straight forwardly as Shere Hite without hesitation.But even when I am a female myself, I hardly know any testimonies but mine, and my best friend's, the one talking rubbish about oranges halves. It is not a topic frequently discussed at office coffee breaks, not even at mid-school breaks.However, it is a totally different concept from males point of view about the topic... My name means Orange in Italian ,by the way, as Mark 'D' Tony Casarotto probably knows, and its true meaning, in Basque, is 'the one among the blackberries'.Does it make of me a very fruity person? Well, now that I am free (is that enough as 70's Who quote?), my first task is to organise my attending the Picnic and see those International Bright Young Things.I will maybe arrive pulling my case, though I won't look as beautiful as Claudia Cardinale.That's why I never put any picture of me on Sinister's shop-window. Robin and I kind-of-have somewhere to stay, but it is not very sure, so if someone could offer some floor to us would be very welcome.And I promise to behave well in spite of my 'stupidized-by-Love' state! And some poetry to finish : 'Future is whatever she touches with her hands', Pedro Salinas , 'La voz a ti debida'. Arantzazu or Arancia or Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Wed Jul 28 16:03:52 1999 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgirl) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:03:52 PDT Subject: Sinister: back from london Message-ID: <19990728150353.71606.qmail@hotmail.com> hello listees finnaly I'm home in sweden and there is soo much do to at the moment.. yeasterday i went and bought myself a TV and video for my flat..I got the contract today...yiii it's scary to move somewhere I do not know a singel person.. but 4 years there will make me meet new people I suppose..everyone is free to come over for a private skiing lesson:) as the skislopes are just around the corner from my new flat.. I went to the listcrush site..and found out wow I've got two people who voted fro me..:) sweet wonder who they are:) lovely seeing you guys martin, marcus,geoff, mark, jessica, jenn, debbie, dougal, and the rest I seem to have forgotten your names..:) hugs kisses becka ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geoff at xxx.uk Wed Jul 28 16:11:41 1999 From: geoff at xxx.uk (geoff) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:11:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Love and science: a geek speaks Message-ID: Hi kids I thought I'd share with you a little of what I know about the science of falling in love. It may sound terribly unromantic but *I* think it's interesting so listen up or hit the delete key NOW! A recent study into the science of falling in love had some interesting findings. When a person gets the love-bug, a heady cocktail of neurotransmitters (chemicals which affect the brain) is released. The main one is dopamine, the same feelgood chemical which gives runners 'highs' and which hits the same receptors as heroin. The study found that, like junkies and athletes, lovers can become 'hooked' on this feeling, craving the company and attentions of their adored object. So far, so banal. However, they also found that this chemicaly sustained love-drug high would only last a maximum of 12 months, just long enough to complete the reproductive cycle. After this time, (the researchers rather unromantically suggest) the lovers may stay together either out of habit, or to look after a newly dropped sprog. (or 'born baby' to our american readers, if I've got any left) Otherwise they may leave the relationship to find the same feeling elsewhere - wandering love-junkies in an ever more desperate search for a quick fix. All this (if we take it as true) may lead us to certain conclusions. If we can only expect *that* feeling to last for a year at best, then we'd better be pretty sure that there's something deeper there, like those feelings of friendship, trust and respect that other sinisterines have been rightly focusing on. Although being in love in the all-consuming, early-stages-of-a-relationship and _biological_ sense is THE BEST FEELING IN THE WORLD, it ain't gunna last forever. So if you want to stay together (and boy, girl, *I* want you to, I love you both) be ready for the 12-month blues. True love, geoff PS Who needs girls when there's Marcus round? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From robin.stout at xxx.com Wed Jul 28 16:49:38 1999 From: robin.stout at xxx.com (Robin Stout) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:49:38 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Jazz and Cajun Food Message-ID: <005601bed910$cd78c220$edfdabc3@default> Hello, my pesky sinisterines, Stuart Murdoch has always cited the works of C S Lewis as being one of his main influences. Now, I was re-reading The Voyage Of The Dawn Treader the other day and I came across this on page 145: ' "Yes," said Caspian, "and let there be grog all round. Heigh-ho, I feel I could sleep the clock round myself." ' Ah! I thought. Maybe he's more influenced than we thought. Odds-on their next song being called "And let there be grog". Stephen mentioned the #sinister chatroom. It's something I've always said I'd try but never have, as yet. In fact the only time I've ever been in a chatroom I was a bit silly. It was a hot day and I was bored so I decided to go for a walk. On the way I passed Alex's house and thought I'd see if he was in. Alex answered the door, tucking in his shirt, and told me to come in. He'd been on the internet he said, and I could come and have a look if I wanted. Now, I'd never seen such technology before, and was pretty amazed that you could communicate with people on the other side of the world with this machine. There didn't even seem to be a place to put the coal in. Alex showed me a site where there were loads of chatrooms on lots of different subjects. As a couple of aspiring young sophisticates we thought we'd try the one labelled "Jazz and Cajun Food". We bluffed our way on this for a few minutes, saying how we thought Jazz was "nice", and how we liked to drink Bourbon "from a straight glass". Then somebody decided we looked interesting and started to talk just to us. Alex ran out and got his "Best of Jazz" CD and we tried to appear knowledgeable by reading things off this. I said I played the trombone (truth) in a famous band called The Jazz Kats (horrible lie) and liked Miles Davis. We said he was "cosmic". Now our friend happened to be a huge expert on Mr Davis, not surprising really seeing as he played in the Philadelphia Jazz Orchestra, or something. Aslan's beard! Alex dropped the "Best of" CD and we fled the chatroom, mumbling "I have to go now" and falling over our tails that were firmly between our legs (ooh!). Then we felt really guilty that we'd decieved this chap who seemed like a really decent bloke. So I've never tried it since. I guess I'll give the sinister chatroom a go, but I'll be honest this time, and I'll admit that I know very little about Jazz, and I've never even tried Bourbon unless you include those chocolate biscuits. I'm reading a book about Yuri Gagarin at the moment called "Starman". It's dead interesting. The only hero that communism would allow, apparently. Sorry about the lack of relevance of any of this as I know nothing about female masturbation and little about love. But I do know this: I like being in love, it's the best thing in the world. I like the way it's always a surprise when you stumble upon it (love, that is not masturbation, although that would be a surprise, certainly). And I like to see people who are in love. It always makes me feel happy. To make up for the lack of smut, here's some rude words: bottom, nipple, nob, nob cheese, arse. See you folks in London. I'll probably be keeping a low profile cos I've got some Cockney's on my case... love from Robin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From robin.stout at xxx.com Wed Jul 28 16:59:28 1999 From: robin.stout at xxx.com (Robin Stout) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:59:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Dufus the dog Message-ID: <006e01bed912$2c84ec20$edfdabc3@default> Sorry if I've sent something twice, I think I might have. Sorry for sending this too, it's really not very interesting, it it? robin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carllafong at xxx.net Wed Jul 28 17:30:38 1999 From: carllafong at xxx.net (John Mahoney) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:30:38 -0500 Subject: Sinister: black sessions (belle and sebastian this time!) Message-ID: <000b01bed916$87cfc100$486785ce@ELNcarllafong> Well, this monday I woke up knowing that I'd really like to have a copy of the Black Sessions on tape. I remember talks of setting up a tape tree when they were first broadcast, but I guess that never happend, or it did without me knowing. So if anyone has a copy of this and would like to trade it for something with me, that would be very nice. The only B&S material I have is the Radio 1 bowlie broadcast (which mr. andreas was so nice to record for me). Even though they cut a few songs, I still enjoy it very much. I also have a few other things at: www.geocities.com/soho/lofts/2968 (reading this over I realize that first sentence is ungodly cheesey, but Expectations had just started up.) Cheers JM +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From J.M.Taylor at xxx.uk Wed Jul 28 17:55:16 1999 From: J.M.Taylor at xxx.uk (Taylor JM) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:55:16 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: (LONDON)marine research meet up & club after saturdays picnic?? Message-ID: thanks martin for posting all the details, ermm sorry if i trod on anybodys toes in terms suggesting meeting up at the **** eagle on royal college street (old eagle???...sorry memeory doesn't work) NB NOT THE (ususal) SPREAD EAGLE on PARKWAY !! .....not guranteed to be a great pub, but independantly id'd by two people as ok, and most importantly next to the Falcon - as things start so early we thought it better to be close by to start with to save mad dashes across Camden. So hopefully i'll not be sat on my own 'till 7.30. And if you want to hear my theories/wafflings/stuff i've read etc on twin souls/soul mates/etc (or highly recommended books), or tell me yours, i'd be most interested. better still if you're a partner from a previous life (without loads of endless shit(-ve karma) to work out between us), you know where i'll be. or ....well anyway. + everybody up for "northern Soul, sixties beat, spaced out funk, hammond grooves club after pic nic on saturday night? loose @ hq club, camden lock.(0171 485 6044 for club info) (the flier says) went a few weeks ago with other to be sinister list members (you here yet ???) and was good. (apolgies for possible lack of this making sense - being kicked out of comp room) bye As martin said Marine Research are playing the Camden Falcon Thursday, doors open 7.30 pm and MR on at 8.15 pm. They are playing before Brassy who is John Spencers's sister's band and Venini which is ex-Pulp man Russell Senior's band. Tickets are �5 (�4 with concessions). The plan is to meet up at the pub opposite the Falcon which has an Eagle and another word in it's name. If you know this word you're a better person than I. The address of the Falcon is 234 Royal College Street so the pub will probably be similar. Jim will be there at 6.45 pm precisely and will great any friendly faces with open arms. He will be wearing his Jim issue purple trousers and a Mogwai T-shirt. I'll be there about 7 hopefully wearing something clean if I do some washing and maybe even ironed but I doubt it. Martin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Wed Jul 28 18:07:53 1999 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetryplace2) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:07:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Belle=2C_the_Lord_and_I=92ve_been_friends_for_a_mighty_lon?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?g_time=85?= Message-ID: <01bed91b$bb134820$046b9ac2@g5-200-3> Ahoy there, playmates TIMOTHY HOPKINS’ CD (DECEASED) All is quiet in the trousers-hopkins-hall household. Mostly because Tim hasn ’t moved in yet. However, his record player has, which has led me to invent a hilarious pastime to while away the long summer evenings. For this hilarious pastime you will need the following equipment: one (1) glass of weak lemon drink; a selection of assorted popular music lps. First drink your glass of weak lemon drink. Then find a tune guaranteed to offend Mr Hopkins’ delicate P!O!P! sensibilities. Then play it very loud. So far I have played The Pixies “Come on, Pilgrim”; “Laughter, Tears and Rage” by post-Propaganda ZTT losers Act; “Introspective” by the Pet Shop Boys; “Aja” by Steely Dan; “Exile on Main Street” by The Rolling Stones; “Blue Bell Knoll” by The Cocteau Twins and “Babelogue” by Raymonde. We still have one week to go, so any further suggestions will be gratefully received at the usual address. NOW THAT’S WHAT I CALL NOODLY ARTROCK DROSS YOU MORON Iron Mike Jones burbled: “Early Brian Eno?” Yes please! You can never have too much Eno in your life. This year is proving to be a bit of an Indian Summer for ludicrous pop-conceptualists, with both Scritti Politti and Art of Noise remerging with confections of perfection, much to my delight (and I suspect, Mr Jones’s). Actually, I don’ t think there’s any such thing as an “unconcious influence” when you’re as self-conscious as Mr Merritt. I still think he should call his forthcoming soixanteneuf-er “More Songs about Songs and Songs”. Mike also mentioned funny Americanisms; I have always wandered about the phrase “ass-backwards” which roughly translates as wrong way round. But surely it should be “ass-forwards”? No? ELECTRIC HONEY Perusing The Guardian Guide this weekend I noticed an ad for the forthcoming Cropreddy Festival, where Fairport Convention will once again kick out the jams, motherfucker. Halfway down the bill, who should I see billed but “The Honey Band”. So that’s what he’s been up to, the sly devil. Talking of Honey and folk rock, I was interested to see that the ringletted minstrelle Kate Jugsby has been nominated for a Mercury Music Award this year, along with The Manic Street Preachers and The Stereophonics (shurely some redundancy here). The Guardian call her “an outsider”, so I think the Mighty Arm of Sinister oughta rig this award too. MUSIC FOR GIRLS Carsmilesteve mentioned in a throwaway fashion that his mates’ band were going to be playing with Baxendale in London on Saturday. You should definitely all go, cos Baxendale are the cat’s pyjamas, the mules’ eyebrows, the dogs’ bollocks, and the best pop group I’ve seen all year. Even the fact that singer jumped off the stage and landed on my bad foot the last time I saw them cannot douse my ardour. I share this opinion with Dickon Edwards and Matt Haynes and Darren Hefner, so I must be right. THE BIG SHEEP This month I have mostly been reading the Japanese novelist Haruki Murakami. If you go to Waterstones at the moment you can get a big discount on his new book “South of The Border, West of The Sun” which is very B&S-friendly, all about falling in love with a young girl with a wonky leg and listening to scratchy old records. All his other books are fantastic too. Actually, I had a gander through the archives, and it seems that people were telling you all this ages ago, but I had never heard of him before, which goes to show how much attention I pay. I’ve read more good books this year than I have heard good records, which must mean I am getting old. Until next time Stevie Trousers xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ar981611 at xxx.uk Wed Jul 28 18:15:36 1999 From: ar981611 at xxx.uk (Ailsa Ross) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:15:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Celtic are the new rock'n'roll References: <19990728001511.45729.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <379F3AB8.36A82769@student.paisley.ac.uk> Tis true. I was at the Celtic v Newcastle game last night and who did I spot when leaving the ground but Gerry Love (not a great surprise cos I see him at games all the time), Norman Blake and ..... Stephen Pastel!! I shit you not, kids, Stephen Pastel was at a football match, and not even supporting a bunch of shambling losers as one would expect. He must be trying to live up to the hard-as-nails image that Mistopher Chris is trying to foist upon him. The game was ace by the way, and the gamblers amongst you may want to stick a tenner on Celtic for the treble and Olivier Tebily as player of the season. Newcastle must be certs for relegation too, they were awful. Especially Shearer. lost madflowr wrote: > > okay, i'm trying to figure out when b&s covered > the smiths "reel around the fountain", if they > did indeed cover that. i just need the date of > the show and the venue if you have that info! i > don't think i have that b&s show. hmm. so yeah! It was at the Queen Margaret Union in Glasgow ages ago (can't remember the date offhand) and I think maybe done in Edinburgh that same week too. I asked a while back for a copy of it too, and no-one offered me a copy. So if anyone has a copy for madflowr, can I have one too please? I won't be hurt that you didn't offer last time :) According the Melody Maker which I stood and read in WH Smiths today, Pete Waterman wears a Belle and Sebastian badge on his suit, but he's still never listened to them. And he doesn't begrudge them their success and doesn't hate them or anything, he's just a bit miffed at the alleged vote rigging. Can't he just let it lie? Ooh, is anyone going to the pub in London on Friday night? Cos I'm getting into Heathrow at 8pm and I may want to drink some beer. It's going to be sunny on Saturday according to every source of weather forecasting I have consulted. I take it London doesn't have the same draconian drink laws as Glasgow (ie you can't drink in parks)? Love and stuff: You are all awfully wise, you lot, you really are. I'm scared to give my twopenceworth as it won't be as good as what you lot all said. But I used to believe that there was one perfect partner for everyone, and I'd met mine. Even for the three years after he left me, I thought he was the perfect partner for me, though obviously the fact that he'd left me, broken our engagement and was living with someone else should have alerted me to the fact that maybe I was wrong. I thought it was my fault and there was no point in going out with anyone else as they wouldn't be the same as him. But now I reckon do whatever makes you happy, if you are happier alone then be alone, if someone makes you happy at the moment, even if you don't think it'll last forever, then try going for it. How will you know whether it will last forever unless you try it out? I'm currently embarking on a relationship with someone I absolutely love to bits as one of my closest friends, and I'm terrified about it, in case it doesn't last and I lose him as a friend. But I'm willing to give it a go. I have no idea if it will last or not, if he is the one for me, or even if I could fall in love with him. But it seems right just now and we're both happy. I think the problem at the start of all relationships is that you think "what if someone better comes along, and I'm wasting my time trying at this one which might not work". I am very unfortunate to have had the whole stars and rainbows love at first sight experience, and this kind of makes the start of every other relationship a bit of an anticlimax in comparison. But hey, that's what makes life such a challenge. I was right, that did add nothing to the debate. But it took me ten minutes to type, so it's staying in. Ailsa xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Wed Jul 28 19:02:01 1999 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:02:01 +0100 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Sinister:_Belle,_the_Lord_and_I=3Fve_been_frie?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?nds_for_a_mighty_long_time=3F?= Message-ID: <802567BC.00631124.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> I like Stephen's* way of writing with clear HEADINGS dividing up the DIFFERENT SECTIONS of his EMAIL. I think I will adopt this format. FEMALE MASTURBATION What a lot of rot you all speak. Female masturbation isn't taboo at all. Not where I come from. It's really cool! Well, I wouldn't bring it up at Sunday school, but in all other circles it's positively de rigeur. Women who talk about the things they get up to 'down below' are afforded great respect. They're sexually liberated! They're sophisticated! They're positively chic! Whereas talk of male wanking is invariably doomed to dissolve into sniggering. Look at Stuart singing about that boy updating his list of his ten biggest wanks. I don't think he meant this in a good way. Mind you, Stuart might just have a Presbytarian guilt complex about it. Do those exist? FISTING Sorry, not fisting. Ailsa says she saw me bobing my head up and down in the footage of 'The Boy with the Arab Strap' at Camber Sands that MTV showed. Well how odd. I've only seen it twice because I don't own a video player, but I'm sure I looked very carefully and couldn't see me at all. Which was very disappointing as before this David and Katrina had said that when they watched the whole thing I was very visible. Maybe I just don't know what I look like. There was one person I thought was me but then I realised it was a girl. LOVE You're all mad. BELLE & SEBASTIAN They're great, aren't they! Nick xx * He's called Stephen you know, not Trousers or anything really. He laughs inwardly when people call him Trousers because it means he has succeeded in pulling the wool over people's eyes. I don't know why he enjoys doing this. He used to go around quite literally pulling the wool over people's eyes, but found that it was easier just doing it with metaphors. I've just read a book laden with metaphors. I found it irksome. It's called 'A Boy's Own Story' and it's by Edmund White and it includes several passages of underage gay sex so you might like it. But it irked me. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From untitled at xxx.com Wed Jul 28 19:56:57 1999 From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:56:57 -0400 Subject: Sinister: so I went to confess Message-ID: <199907281457_MC2-7EC0-5978@compuserve.com> Williamy Messent wrote: > Fantastic idea. We could even turn it into a weekly serial, entitled > 'Pete Waterman Investigates', in which our hero , an unconventional > ex-cop/'hitman' solves chart-rigging mysteries, aided by his bumbling > sidekick Michaela Strachan. Wicked. Oh sheer genius. But how about if Michaela Strachan was dead and was a ghost and she could wear a white dress and could appear and disappear as and when she likes. also when she does this everyone must first stand still and then move suddenly. Yeah, it might just work, Waterman and Strachen deceased. sounds familiar but I like it. Peter Airlie Wrote: >Perhaps female masturbation would be less of a taboo subject if there were >more widely used euphemisms for it. This could be a chicken and egg >situation I'm not sure. Ah, this is an interesting idea, possibly some works to be used: 1. Buff my caddy whack 2. Rattle my godfrey What were your choice adjectives? I'm sure everyone's interested, I am! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Wed Jul 28 20:35:55 1999 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:35:55 -0700 Subject: Sinister: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Sinister:_Belle,_the_Lord_and_I=92ve_been?= friends =?iso-8859-1?Q?for_a_mighty_long_time=85?= In-Reply-To: <01bed91b$bb134820$046b9ac2@g5-200-3> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990728123555.039549d0@mail.hooked.net> MURAKAMI Aiiii! Murakami has been my favorite writer for the last couple of years. I strongly encourage folks to read any/all of his books. 'South of the Border, West of the Sun' was written a while back, but recently released (re-released). His most recent *writing* effort, I believe, is called 'The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle' and it's not only fabulous but has gotten some critical acclaim as well. (Not to mention that I caught a Murakami reference in that 'Bed of Pipes' song by the Rescuers...) I could go on and on, but I won't. PAJAMAS Anyway - his stories are very fun, sexy, and clever. Nice bedtime reading for a Sinisterine pajama party... So where were we having that again? ;) senor droolcup [ with a little more dare than truth ] At 06:07 PM 7/28/99 +0100, poetryplace2 wrote: >THE BIG SHEEP >This month I have mostly been reading the Japanese novelist Haruki Murakami. >If you go to Waterstones at the moment you can get a big discount on his new >book �South of The Border, West of The Sun� which is very B&S-friendly, all >about falling in love with a young girl with a wonky leg and listening to >scratchy old records. All his other books are fantastic too. Actually, I had >a gander through the archives, and it seems that people were telling you all >this ages ago, but I had never heard of him before, which goes to show how >much attention I pay. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From StephenJH at xxx.net Wed Jul 28 22:35:17 1999 From: StephenJH at xxx.net (Stephen Heister) Date: 28 Jul 99 14:35:17 PDT Subject: Sinister: Urban Myths.. Message-ID: <19990728213517.29831.qmail@ww183.netaddress.usa.net> Hello People, Umm.. Just to assure whoever it was that said that American Listee's were dwindling, I AM STILL HERE!! And, i am a Geek. A big one as what first attracted me to B&S was their Pop/Folk chord combos fascinating! And while we are destroying stereotypes. I am also very tall. :-) At any rate i made some statements earlier about the nature of love, primarily that you can't find someone who completes you when your not sure who you are. Well i have something to add, primarily that, this statement however true it, Like everything else, is a contradiction. While we are being dorks, it is know fact that your personality (unknown to us of course) changes about every six months. WHich means that you can never really "know" yourself. Only get a good idea. So that makes me think that love would be when the person hangs around and changes with you, and it doesn't bother them, that your changing. So it doesn't really make sense to say that you look at personality first because it is in a constant state of flux. Of course this could just be justification for myself looking at someone's beauty first. (but damn-it i like my vanity) Anyway this leads me to believe that love is forgiving and adaptable. Not much B&S content here so i will add this last line. Gosh B&S are Swell aren't they?? Goodbye people Stephen Heister StephenJH at netscape.net "Hi, I'm the Local Reject." ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From macarthur at xxx.com Wed Jul 28 23:38:52 1999 From: macarthur at xxx.com (Graham MacArthur) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:38:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Back on the scene, and fighting keen Message-ID: Hey peeps, I met someone who was Suited and Booted a few days ago (where that line was stolen from, for non My Life Story fans - p.s Shame on you!) a full suit, complete with pocketwatch! It was joyous! My friend Matt and I walked around Huddersfield town getting stared at. I havent had so much fun in ages.... I've been away, driving miles across different countrysides (ending up at the seaside). The first trip took me to yorkshire to be congregated with the rest of my northern family for a grande clear out of the biggest house in birkby (now sadly has to be sold, because we're all skint and my grandma needs to be kept in reader's digests). We were sat around the table the night I got there, when the moment I was waiting for arrived. They asked me The Question. "So, Erica" (this is aunty sue, at this point) "Do you have a boyfriend?" Five sets of beady eyes burn into me. My Mum has four sisters, and they all have the same old-fashioned values. I smile slightly, at this point.. "No". I feel like I should apologise. Instead I stare into my tea and pray for someone else to break the silence. The second trip took me to Whitstable, the kentish seaside. I stayed for a short time but I feel a hundred times better than I did when I left. People who can! come to the fuck-off massive picnic this saturday and I'll tell you all about le grande race around the anchored boat nearly resulting in jellyfish sting-horror! I guess that serves everyone right for stripping down to their PANTS in the dark and diving right in. What! Is! This!.....feeling called love, Jarvis Sang in sexy-jarvis style. He was singing it to me while I was away and you were all tapping away your precious thoughts and feelings. Why do we try to explain things like love? It's like magic, you're not meant to know. You're not Paul Daniels, no more than you are Harry White. Look at geoff, he's obviously The Doc from Back To The Future in disguise. If he was standing next to be when he said all that woo-ha about the science of love, I would have made my hand look like a duck and open and close the beak in time with his words, in proper childish fashion, but then, the closest I ever came to love was shattered when I saw my then-beau wearing crap shoes. It wasn't meant to be. Anyone who could team gold Rebok Classics with red socks doesn't deserve my affection. I think I've written quite enough, don't you? Love Erica x p.s I'm going to me seeing Marine Research tommorow. I'll be wearing my usual blurry face. Do say hello if you're there. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From adrock at xxx.com Thu Jul 29 03:25:55 1999 From: adrock at xxx.com (Mike Jones) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:25:55 -0400 Subject: Sinister: looper instore...WOW. Message-ID: <001f01bed969$b0906880$96d88dcc@oemcomputer> stu d is amazing. i was at the other music instore monday night...i was blown away. fr anyone at the show, i was the one in the plaid shirt standing RIGHT IN FRONT of stuart. for the record, he does not smell of wee at all. sigh, at the point that he started who's afraid of y2k, he asked ronnie for a pick...i had one in my pocket, in my hand but i was too sheepish to hand it to him....sigh....i did talk to him for a few mins while he signed tigermilk and up a tree for me...he said the song is called winter wooksie...i told him all the new songs were excellent and he said thank you very much...i also told him about how impossible things #2 makes me all teary eyed becuz the story is nearly exactly how i met my girlfriend, save for the fact that the letters are replaced by emails. i must've thanked and praised him a hundred times in the span of 2 minutes. i also told wee karn that i love all her art, and i tried to tell ronnie that i love his photography but i dont think he heard me. i'm still in awe of the performance. standing less than 2 feet away from one of yr heroes, watching him work his magic, and then getting to speak to him....it's a wonderful expreience. i got my driver's license today. it's a very strange prospect...i'm trusted on the roads all by myself now...scary. also, don't recall if anyone mentioned it, but select magazine gave tigermilk a perfect 5 point review. one last thing. i picked up snow patrol's 2 starfighter pilot CDs on monday...does anyone else agree that richard's "bad belle" remix is radder than the original? ok, that'll about do it. aloha, mike j **ape shall never kill ape** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Thu Jul 29 03:54:39 1999 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake E Hamilton) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:54:39 -0400 Subject: Sinister: sultry strings are sexy Message-ID: <000501bed96d$b5540e40$ca1574cc@woody> fluffy pastries, now i intend on writing a coherent (rather than than the other night's centre o babble) post that has some relevant something-er-uther content about lots of things that will hopefully bring smiles to all of your faces. item 1. you know there are only 50 er so of us (maybe less, who's counting?) who actually post on a regular basis, so what do the other 950 do? do they laugh, cackle, or do they stare in awe, and are they intimidated by our clique-ness? i can for one say i know of zero cliques, maybe because i'm not in one, considering i think i'm the only sinister within 500 miles or so. yes, maybe it is me. so i shall wave to all those who are perhaps too shy or formal to post their thoughts. i'm waving, right now, can you see me? item 2. female masturbation. this has always bothered me. no, not the act itself, but the fact that every bird that has ever discussed it always denies ever doing anything. what a load of pish! it's similar to denying one's own nature for fear of embarassment. that's almost like denying yourself food because you think people will think you're a pig hound if you eat at all. masturbation, food...bad metaphor, but someone may see my point. my favorite euphenism for female masturbation, though crude, is 'flicking the bean'. hee hee haw haw! item 3. love. it's a fickle thing. and it does not surprise me at all that chemically love physically fades within our bodies as the days progress. it grows weary, and then retires, and you're left with a bit of a enigma. but i'm sure love floats and dives and flips through breezeless summer days when it does exist, ever so briefly. i've always thought that love is a bit like a ghost, and it haunts, so to speak. it stays with you, and watches over you, and protects you. at least, that's how i envision it. these flowery depictions of love will probably be shattered when my true love dumps me for a touring chimp puppet stagehand, but for now i'd like to think of it as a natural, nylon enclosed packet of yummy that i can buy for a nickel. item 4. b&s content, yippee! upon my enormous road trip this past week, i attempted to convert my pop loving friend (the bad pop, you know what i mean) to b&s. overall, it was pretty unsuccessful, as he commented on struan's high voice (which i immediately jumped in and classified as a folk twee falsetto) and how it sounded too nice or something to that effect. he liked tigermilk the most, i believe. but i built up 'she's losing it' too much before it played, i think. i have a habit of inserting notes on the next song in that 2 second gap between tracks. i usually get cut off. argh. and that's all, will you remember me, anyone? blake xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ISawUfall at xxx.com Thu Jul 29 05:11:01 1999 From: ISawUfall at xxx.com (ISawUfall at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:11:01 EDT Subject: Sinister: Oh Morgan! Message-ID: Oh Morgan -- i think thats the name of it, a movie im trying to get a hold of. its some wacky english movie from the late 60's methinks. if anyone out there has a copy of it or knows someone with one, please let me know. sorry...i just really want this movie and i thought one of you might have it- and i guess its out of print or sumpin. thanks, dave. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gripper_sea at xxx.com Thu Jul 29 05:50:42 1999 From: gripper_sea at xxx.com (gareth james) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 04:50:42 GMT Subject: Sinister: The loneliness of a long-play record Message-ID: <19990729045044.66317.qmail@hotmail.com> I have been on the list for about 3 months now but this is my first mail . I have enjoyed reading all your mails but have not posted until I actually had something interesting and relevant to say as not to boor you all shitless .Which is something I am about to do anyway Marcus wrote : >i had a look through all my dad's old seven inches. i don't actually like >seven inches that much >- i don't think they're as pretty as cds, and twelve inches are much >cooler. > why didn't sixties bands put things on twelves? but i digress... >anyway, the wonderful 'loneliness of a middle distance runner' was going >through my head, and my heart jumped up a notch when i found one of those >soft seven inch things that i think used to be used for promos et cetera - >they're all floppy when you shake them around. and it was called'the >loneliness of a long play record (33 1/3 rpm)'. and so i rushed over to >the vinyl machine and laid it down. I disagree .Vinal no matter what form is always better than soulless cd's .60's records were not realised on 12' because they were not made commercially available until 1976 (don't ask me how I know that). I think that record is probably worth a small fortune because most of them would have been discarded or destroyed . If you want to play it place it on top of another record and place a one pence (or any other small coin in the centre) and then it won't skip as it gets close to the middle . I think had better tell you all a little about myself since it is my first email . b&s and this mailing list is a godsend to me as I work 4week on a boat in the north sea and then I get 4 weeks off (which I normally spend in London) .I would love to meet some of you from the list but all the picnics seem to coinside with my time on the boat. Any planed for 11 of August till the 16 of September and I will gladly come along .I am aways up for a beer or two. Tigermilk is just great . I saved it up for three days before I came away so I would have something to look forward to . As you can imagine there is not much to do on the boat apart from read listen to music and wank .So its all very B&S out here . I fact one of my fellow worker's spotted IYFS in my cd'd (I now I said cd's are soulless but its a bit difficult to play vinal on the high sea's).He put it on the cd player saying that he loved them.I then told him that I had a copy of Tigermilk .How did you get that/1000 copies ...etc . Needless to say I have not seen it since . What do you think separates a great band like B&S and an average one . I think it's when you hear the record it sounds so familiar like your favorite top or pair to trainers . They remind me of all my favorite bands but still sound unlike anyone else .They would have stood out as a great band any time over the last four decades . One last thing loosely connected to the loneliness of a long-play record .Did anyone work out which version of 'what goes on' they covered. Was it the Beatles or V.U .Both are great records but I think a cover of the Beatles one would be more Interesting but I am hoping its both . Love to you all Gareth ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lofemo at xxx.com Thu Jul 29 06:01:07 1999 From: lofemo at xxx.com (kevin-m) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: this emory board is giving me a rash Message-ID: <19990729050107.26781.rocketmail@web1003.mail.yahoo.com> wooohoooo!!!!! i've finally caught up after being 212 sinister emails behind. i was sick last week and was away from email for a while. i've been sick for weeks. if it lasts for very much longer i'll be known as the boy who's always coughing. (i've also learned to keep my kleenex on top of the computer monitor at work so it stays nice and warm. macgyver would be proud, although he's probably never sick). re: sleeks sounds...ron sexsmith sightings in a church. ...a few months ago i saw him at a church in toronto but he wasn't performing, he was sitting two pews behind me at a rufus wainwright concert. i couldn't bring myself to say hi(it was packed). i didn't realize there were so many listees from toronto.canada. we should all get together soon. the dc listees aren't all that far either... we could rent buses and have a belle&sebastien picnic somewhere in the middle(of course we'd have to paint them tigerstripped). the looper show in toronto was grand. i've finally posted pictures on my web site: www.members.tripod.com/lofemo (i think someone i know taped a copy so i'll post that too[in real audio/mp3] as soon as i can, promise) this is getting a little long so i'll go. i've got to sleep for a big day of doing a whole lotta nothing at work. razamafras i can't remember any good quotes why does it seem obligatory to end emails with quotes from other people ? i think i'll quote myself. screw the cult of celebrity. "razamafras" - K.Marchand, as taken from "selected poems from a broken typewriter which only works on tuesdays and never prints doubleyous"(c)1999 thanks for the emails, your pixelated words are brilliance hughs and kisses. kevin. _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Thu Jul 29 07:36:45 1999 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 02:36:45 EDT Subject: Sinister: heatwave/the Who->/smidgeons of smut (attn: Jessica) Message-ID: <9936451d.24d1507d@aol.com> My a/c is broken and I think I'm beginning to melt like the wicked witch. Even repeatededly continously plays of remastered "Tigermilk" are quite soothing but not quite cooling things down enuff. Thanks to the almighty spirit that a repairman will be here tomorrow to rectify the situation. It's predicted to be 99 degrees here in Chi-town on Thursday. To Blake and other Who-> die-hards ( I used to be one in the 70's-I'm showing my age or musical prowess until Moon died), Eddie Vedder is performing with Mr. Townshend doing "Heart To Hang On To" right now on David Letterman. Yes, Quadrophenia helped me survive the disillisioned and angst-driven teen years too during the 70's and early 80's. I feel like sending Mr. Townshend a "Father's Day" card like Vedder too). Also, the Who-> have an extensive feature in the new Goldmine magazine that is worth checking out if you are a die-hard. I used to be a die-hard but I gave up on classic rock obsession when Moon died except for Marc Bolan & T.Rex which I've been religiously into since 1972 but wouldn't ever consider classic rock here in the states. Tyrannosaurus Rex from 1967-70 is the shit and 1971-77 is good enuff to remain precious to the golden few. As for the obligatory smut ( apologies because I've drank 6 beers already of a quickly-demolished 6-pack tonight---I'm off on Thursdays and may be more expressive than my usually tight-lipped inhibitous self) with regard to the list-crush phenomenon that has known to carry a heavy presence on this list according to Select and other periodicals and reaffirmed by sultry select listees (god bless you people w/ hearts) and w/o sounding too depraved and , I do approve of the polaroid, digital camera, etc... technologies and must express approval at web sites that allow us to meet our fellow list members in a more vulnerable yet tasteful and innocent way. Isn't that what the internet should be a vehicle for in some circles? If I had a digital camera and a website, I'd open it up to the world the same way.... I don't think I could trust my local photo-mat with any pics though. Everytime I used to try the negatives and pics would be missing. Polaroids and digital cameras are the medium if you want to be tasteful and secure. Jessica, your physique is shapely but your shapely figure could hold any audience captive including me. As a fine artist, if you would be interested in modeling, I would pay you most handsomely although I think the distance from Chicago would be a problem..... Pete Pete +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.net Thu Jul 29 10:47:00 1999 From: rebelstrange at xxx.net (Lesley J Miller) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 02:47:00 -0700 Subject: Sinister: flying over canyons....... Message-ID: <001b01bed9a7$4eebe1c0$4f11020a@rebelstrange> sometimes i wonder what the non posting people do as well. i think shuddering, "i could not POSSIBLY be one of those horrible cliquey people" the thought of someone being afriad to talk to me because i'm too cool, is frankly hilarious and laughable. it's a bit of an ego boost being online where i'm able to bluster and rant and rave and act like a badass, when i'm actully this short nearsighted incredibly nerdy shut-in girl who's never been kissed. i guess that's the definition of the sinister list aint' it, harhar.... all i need now are some NHS specs and a cardigan collection and i'd be well set. isn't this a laugh..... i'm acting so funny and retarded and i dont' care. i feel like i'm in a play or something. sorry i'm having one of those existentiual moments where everythign seems ridiculous and surreal. i got two vvery nice cd's this week. one is Illusions, Ute Lemper does the songs of marlene dietrich/edith piaf. it's GGGGLLLAMOROUS!!!!!! *siiiiiiiiigggghhhhhh* the other one is More ABBA gold. and it's fucking extreme dude. it will blow your fucking mind. it's the shiznit. especially "head over heels' and "Cassandra" ****Yet Another Installment of "AS THE BREAD MOLDS" your favorite dyke-ish soap opera. when we last met our young protagonist, it was all standard. girl meets girl, girl lusts after girl, girl meets bulldyke, bulldyke helps girl get with girl. then it started to get weird. bullke lusts after girl, bulldyke gropes girl, girls get majorly pissed at bulldyke. girl number one puts a black magic spell on bulldyke, after promptly vomiting. but what of girl number two--will she escape the nefarious machinations of bulldyke's perverted obsession, or will living the same apartment complex get to be too close for comfort? and what of girl number one's unrequited love for girl number two? will it rend their friendship at the roots? adn what of the vomit inducing thought coursing through her head? will her witchy spells be the perfect revenge, or will instant karma gonna get her? tune in next time, when she'll be out of town anyway and none of it will really matter. Darling Blakie says: >tem 2. female masturbation. this has always bothered me. no, not the act itself, but the fact that every bird that has ever discussed it always denies ever doing anything. what a load of pish! it's similar to denying one's own >ature for fear of embarassment. that just irritates me. like they're SOO above it all. with guys i guess it's easier for them to talk about it. cos their sexuality is pretty much hanging out for all to see, so it would be dumb to ignore it. women still have to deal with all these Puritan issues. we're way behind, because back in olden days, they stil thought that women had like no sexual desire, so they didnt' teach girls anythign about it. so it's like ingrained in our culture i guess. i for one am glad i'm a girl. and i've discussed this with ppl. women are sexually superior. now dont' go getting all pissed at me. they ARE. women can do awesome sexual feats that men can't even touch. and we have a highly holistic erotic capability. polymorphous if you will. women have the only organ in the human body that is made exclusively to give pleasant feelings. what does that tell you? any girl who says she don't know, is either lying or weird,they're missing out. it's practically a crime. it's your own body you have a right to understand it. guys are brought up to enjoy sexuality, girls are taught to always be polite. it's rubbish. (if you don't mind me saying so) it's like either extreme, boys are taught to go too far, girls are taught to pretned they don't have naughty bits. I know i was. and i did. ladies heed my words, it will mess you up. i mean, ignoring it will. Look at me for pete's sake. you wanna turn out like me?? i didnt' think so. Love, i dont' know what to say, i think it's different for everyone, i dont thin there is any absolute rule in love, except you gotta trust and be honest with anyone you love, without trust and respect and absolute honesty, there is no love, only fake acting and pretend feeligns. whether there is "one" true love, i think is a moot point. if there is, you will find them. it's silly to think "what if my true love is some Sumatran bushman i'll never meet". obviously it's only love if you meet the person, love only happens when you get to know someone, love grows and it's about changing. or if it's not, then you'll be about flirting, and that' s good for you if you like it. i just don't make up rules about it. attraction and love involve so many different parts of ourselves. you can go Jungian and talk about the shadow, I do. anima, animus. gender lines......... who can say? you change, maybe love can change, or maybe not, maybe you'll find another one, maybe not, it's all the same. i tend to think that what happens happens. like "wherever you go, there you are" i dont' see any use trying to figure it out on a large scale. i don' think that is like predestination, it's just that you make one choice after another, and things roll down like dominoes, and you work with what you get. maybe in some other dimension you made another choice. i'm not really too picky. my world view is pretty messed up though, i dont' expect any of this to make any sense so i'll jsut shut up, cos i dont' realyl like talking about love.............. i'd rather be experiencing it. "All is full of love, you just ain't receiving" --bjork oh yeah, and ll that chemical garbage, may be true in this world, but you gotta reach for the stars if you want the real deal know what i mean? science may be good for you right now, but ain't gonna help you none when you are flying out there in the cosmic ether, dreaming your own reality. and no i'm not on acid right now. there is the pheremone of immediacy, then there is the something beyond, you have to be strong to see it though. that's something i believe. I am a witch, LJ (former roomie with carlos castaneda) *hug hug* to alyssa....... http://www.members.tripod.com/rebelstrange "ABBA is the pinnacle of Western civilization." --Stephin Merritt SAVE MST3K!!!! http://www.mst3kinfo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From simon.bradley at xxx.uk Thu Jul 29 09:11:01 1999 From: simon.bradley at xxx.uk (SIMON BRADLEY) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:11:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Original Tigermilk for sale Message-ID: <802567BD.002CC783.00@peb205.nmb.co.uk> Hello everyone I'm sellins an original Tigermilk vinly for a mate who needs cash. Offers(if any) to simon.bradley at nmb.co.uk I hear it's worth a couple of hundred quid - can anyone confirm/deny this? Also, could anyone suggest others ways of selling it? Cheers Simon. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From uhl at xxx.edu Thu Jul 29 10:39:57 1999 From: uhl at xxx.edu (andrew) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 02:39:57 -0700 Subject: Sinister: voodoo on a stick In-Reply-To: <001b01bed9a7$4eebe1c0$4f11020a@rebelstrange> References: <001b01bed9a7$4eebe1c0$4f11020a@rebelstrange> Message-ID: okay. all this talk of non-posting list members induced me to write in. i'd hate to be thought of as creepy. my thoughts on recent list topics: * female masturbation * my mom masturbates. i found a vibrator under her bed a number of years ago. maybe she doesn't want all these people knowing, but i'm not ashamed. I'm outing my mom (beverly) as a masturbator. Stand proud, Beverly! once my friend bonnie was masturbating and our friend jessica knocked on her door. bonnie said 'just a minute' as she tried to cover the evidence but jessica thought she said 'come right in' and barged in the room. bonnie was horribly embarassed for about a week. * list-crush * we should just get this list-crush popularity contest over with and have a belle and sebastian beauty pageant. the pics posted on the list-crush page can serve as the swimsuit/evening portion of the pageant. part 2 - belle and sebastian trivia contest. in part 3 of the pageant, contestants must pay homage to belle & sebastian by doing things like 1) buying hundreds of thousands of copies of tigermilk so it will hit #1 on the charts, 2) erecting a giant statue of your favorite band member in the local park or 3) hacking into the MTV webpage and making it a tribute to B&S. the most audacious act of homage takes home the title of 'indie cool queen/king' for the next year. (ok, so i'm not fond of chickfactor but it's an obvious title for the pageant winner) might i add that my list-crush vote is for sale. after all, i'm american... * love * i'm in love. i'm a lucky guy. i sleep in sonnets. that's all i can say about it. * andrew's question of the month * if any, what song was playing during your first kiss? anyone have B&S playing during their first kiss? that's all! hello to all my sinister friends. you're all invited over for dinner if you ever make it out to san francisco! .andrew. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.cullen at xxx.com Thu Jul 29 11:36:31 1999 From: p.cullen at xxx.com (Paula Cullen) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:36:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Is it cos I's black? Message-ID: <01BED9B6.9B5EA920.p.cullen@music-control.com> hey, this is *very* out of character, i can assure you, but this is going to be a rude post. everyone else is doing it, so i just thought "fuck it! why not?" (shit, i'd better not say "fuck" though, because the last time i said "fuck" on the list, somebody objected to me saying "fuck") they said i had a mouth like a docker. i wish i had a mouth like a *rocker*. steve tyler from aerosmith, to be precise. then i could put WHOLE oranges in my mouth, and believe me, where i come from, there is a LOT of social cachet attached to inserting whole citrus fruits into ones bodily orifaces. (this bit may or may not be true - the reader decides...) anyway, here is my tuppence worth on the wanking subject: 1. buffing the bean. 2. polishing the pea. i did not make these up. honestly. next rude bit: i noticed there was someone on this list called "GUI". (hello!) is that pronounced "GUY" or "GEE"? because if it was "GEE" that would be funny :) "GEE" is a rude word, you know, for a ladys bits. me and fiona met an american boy called "GEE" one night. we blushed and giggled when he outstretched his hand to shake ours and said "GEE". "thats a bit forward" we thought. "we hardly know him......" hello to fiona by the way. she wont subsribe to sinister, but reads it every day on the internet. *lurker*........ everyone WAVE and POINT at fiona - it will embarass her :) i think thats quite enough rudeness for the moment. hang on.............not.......quite........finished............ "thrupenny bits out for the lads!!!!!!" aaahhhhhh........that outta do it. paula cullen booze explosion booooze!!!! yeeeaaahh!!! p.s hello to becka and martin/mark? whom i met i london, completely by accident. oh, and the spanish girl outside the Good Mixer. :)+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Jul 29 12:27:03 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:27:03 +0200 Subject: Sinister: RV: Love is Like a Butterfly Message-ID: <01bed9b5$4836a000$d04f05c3@itjfvkli> Dear all, I sent this to the list from a different address (birds, eh?) and got a nice automatic message back from The Honey Band telling me how what I was in the nursery and wasn't allowed to join in. I was tempted to leave it at that, but this seemed like a God given opportunity to say: Andrew wrote: my mom masturbates. i found a vibrator under her bed a number of years ago. maybe she doesn't want all these people knowing, but i'm not ashamed. I'm outing my mom (beverly) as a masturbator. Stand proud, Beverly! and then wrote: that's all! hello to all my sinister friends. you're all invited over for dinner if you ever make it out to san francisco! Just how big is your kitchen, Andrew? Your mother will think we all smile a lot. I wrote: >I've recieved literally thousands of complaints (mostly from girls) >about my treatment of Kevan Cooke. I admit it, I was wrong, and I >apologise. It's not that I don't think Kevan is immature, I do, but I >wholeheartedly approve of his immaturity, and hope to be able to >compare fat slugs with him outside that chalet window at Camber Sands. >I was just using Kevan as a cheap ploy to get the girls to spill the >beans about, you know, IT. Sadly all we've got so far is a pile of >boys' opinions on the matter. Not the original intention. I haven't >received any complaints really, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's >been grumbling in certain quarters. > >Isn't "Ceremony" a New Order cover of a Joy Division song? If so, it >doesn't matter whether Tigermilk is at the front or the back of your >B&S collection, but it must be upside down and back to front. > >Yesterday I saw a Blur video with a little milk carton in it. > >One of my favourite people in the world is/was Joaquin Rodrigo, the >composer. I wasn't very upset when he died the other week, mainly >because I thought he was dead already. There are two reasons why I >like Rodrigo. Firstly, because he was blind, and he wrote some music >for James Galway, who was in a wheelchair at the time, and when James >Galway went to see Rodrigo, who was sitting sightlessly at his piano >waitng for him, James Galway ploughed into him in his wheelchair by >accident. This is also the reason I like James Galway. Secondly, >Rodrigo's beautiful Concierto de Aranjuez was apparently inspired by >the unfortunate death of his baby daughter (I think). At the end of >the second movement (the famous "duh-duh-duh" bit), you can hear some >ascending notes which are meant to represent the baby's soul going up >to Heaven. I got all this from a television documentary, and I've >probably remembered it wrong, because most people seem to think it's >about a walk in the park. I offer this as a footnote to the great Love >debate on the list, and as my entry to Trousers' sad songs >competition. > >So, Will, did you get your end away on that boat, or what? Did you >manage to WEIGH ANCHOR or was there NO PORT IN THE STORM, leaving you >unable to HOIST THE JOLLY ROGER, practically RUDDERLESS, alone with >MIDSHIPMAN PERCY on a storm-TOSSED sea at the mercy of REAR ADMIRAL >BACKPASSAGE and his WHITBREAD ROUND THE WORLD YACHT RACE? > >Sister Disco > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jeremy.Simon at xxx.com Thu Jul 29 14:12:12 1999 From: Jeremy.Simon at xxx.com (Jeremy.Simon at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:12:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: love is a five-letter word Message-ID: <802567BD.00480A0F.00@gbemea05.emea.jwt.com> The reclusive American author's alter ego, Jeremy.Simon at JWT.com, took a long draw on his cheroot, and exhaling began to ramble... 1) I have been struck recently by all this talk of love. In particular, the idea of having a single perfect partner out there in the world, just waiting to be found. Life as quest, constantly disappointing... I was particularly intrigued by Arantxa's Spanish phrase "half an orange", referring to ideal partners. It reminded me of a Classics lesson I was taught long ago. I hazily remember learning about Plato's thesis on love, "Symposium" but I was half asleep for much of my school years, and so probably got it wrong. As I recall, Aristophanes expounds on his theory that when the world was young, humans were actually these giant balls of flesh that went rolling round the place, happy as larry. One dreadful day, for reasons I don't fully understand, the balls were all cut in half, leaving each half-sphere as the basic human form as we know it. Aristophanes suggests that each half spends the rest of his/her life searching for the other perfect match. When he/her finds that long lost match, they unite and combine in perfect harmony, forming through the medium of great sex the original fleshy mass. But then again, what did they know. They were all Romans. Or something. 2) I think I'll leave the thread on female masturbation well alone. Just as in real life, it's better to observe than take part. 3) In Trousers' last post, all of the abbreviation marks were replaced on my computer with solid vertical lines, giving the whole page the look of one of those old music rolls people used to entertain themselves with before gramophones. Which I liked. 4) I hope everyone has seen the rebelstrange site. The photos of B&S are ace. Stuart Murdoch grins like a thin-faced monkey. That is all. I'm off to visit the Kirsty Smith website. J. D. Salinger, pleased because he has got "Plato", "Aristophanes" and "Kirsty Smith" on the Sinister archive search. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "you take a really sleepy man, Esmé, and he always stands a chance of again becoming a man with all his fac - with all his f-a-c-u-l-t-i-e-s intact" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Thu Jul 29 14:31:58 1999 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 06:31:58 -0700 Subject: Sinister: every sperm is sacred Message-ID: hello folks IMMATURE sorry if i upset anyone by making light of what is obviously a serious subject. WASHING MACHINES masturbation - male or female - if you want to talk about it, talk about it. if you want to do it, do it. unless you are male and a devout catholic in which case every sperm is sacred and it's a sin. i have no idea what the church's view of female masturbation is, but who cares? i know girls who quite openly discuss the relative merits of fingers and "appliances" without embarassment - and "appliances" is quite a wide ranging term in this case (do you prefer the steady rhythm of the tumble drier or the suspense of waiting for the fast spin?) KANGAROOS teaching female masturbation in school? is there not the danger that it would deprive girls of the pleasure of "self discovery"? they should definitely teach female masturbation to boys though. sex education is shit, moving swiftly along from the basic scientific facts and the need for contraception to pictures of kangaroo embryos. kangaroos? what's that all about? just imagine how much better the world be if they actually taught you something useful like how to be *good* at it. i mean *really* good at it, like me. SPROG talking of things australian, which i wasn't really, someone said sprog. doesn't that mean something else there? an australian friend of mine was very surprised when, during his wedding reception, he was asked if he was planning to have a sprog. ALL TOMORROWS PARTIES i shall, of course, not be peering through any windows at camber sands, nor shall i be doing anything worth peering at. kevan fat slug *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MFDOWGERT at xxx.edu Thu Jul 29 15:00:25 1999 From: MFDOWGERT at xxx.edu (Matthew Dowgert) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:00:25 -0400 Subject: Sinister: one could do worse than be a swinger of birches... Message-ID: well, looks like i've hit the big time; finally able to post to our fine list. 'i must admit that i am a bit nervous,' he says with shoulders shrugged and reddened face. anyhow... i must begin with some old news, as my previous compulsory silence did not allow me to communicate it when new (incoherant, yes indeed). looper in boston. i went because of the possibility of seeing merely a star in the belle and sebastian constellation, but i left loving looper (as well as alliteration). i need those 'amazing goggles of light' that stuart david had. they'd come in handy for checking for velociraptors in the closet and under the bed. my personality changes every 6 days. it's circadian or something. i have been a bit surprised at all of the recent acclaim for 'she's losing it'. in my (modest and frequently ignorant, if not anger-inciting) opinion, 'we rule the school' is the absolute monarch of the album's kingdom, with 'expectations' its crowned prince of musical goodness (or something). i mean, 'she's losing it' is a fine piece of work, but i do not feel that it warrants individual recognition. oh, i also like 'er' quite a bit, it sounds tons better on cd than it did on my crappy overplayed tape (the cd is 'the shit' as it were) . i have never been on a picnic, but my only attempt at poetry was about one. sort of odd, now that i think about it. i went food shopping the other day and asked the elderly gentleman behind the counter if they sold tigermilk. he said that all they carried was cow's milk and some cheese that he thought was made with goat's milk. he was pleasant and had no hair. i've just spilled iced coffee all over myself, so i suppose i should go before i soak this trendy new imac. the boss would not approve. have a fine day, all, de la matt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Thu Jul 29 16:04:33 1999 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksAndAJill) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:04:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Rubbing the rosebud Message-ID: <199907291504.LAA60284@dept.english.upenn.edu> Paula Cullen exploded: "GEE" is a rude word, you know, for a ladys bits. me and fiona met an american boy called "GEE" one night. we blushed and giggled when he outstretched his hand to shake ours and said "GEE". "thats a bit forward" we thought. "we hardly know him......" What????? What is the etymology of this "gee" word? Is it short for something? Is it an Irish thing? Wow, I'm glad I learned this before going over to the UK and saying "Gee, I really think she's swell" and having my "mate" turn to me and say "I'd say more swollen than swell" or something. And how did an American boy end up with a name like "Gee"?? (I mean I know it's possible, just wondering if there's an ethnic origin) Questions questions. I can only imagine then your laughter when watching '50s US sitcoms or films where young boys often say things like "Gee whiz" instead of "Vaginas, urination". (Or maybe "whiz" is a US thing too.) More culture clash language to spice up the international Sinister list. The shit, the bomb, bangin'. You know women masturbate less than men when there aren't enough euphemisms to go around. So let's make some up and hope all the female Sinisterites use them often when conversing with each other. Pushing the button is good, with that whole nuclear holocaust imagery. Or maybe rubbing your other nose. Twiddling your other thumb. Buffing the...* I don't know, the clitoris is so little and cute when compared to the comic structure of the penis. It's hard to come up with funny phrases! Will it take the US Women's soccer team's participation in an ad campaign to show that female masturbation is fine? I think it's safe to say the Sinister list fully endorses masturbation... All right, I'm withdrawing (perhaps too late) from this discussion of frank and earthy topics....maybe someone else can pick up the torch (not a sexual euphemism unfortunately) and run with it. Sorry bout the giddiness, the Dunkin' Donuts coffee is in full effect. Xavier BXK bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu | www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 It's what kind of hair you have on the inside that counts.--G.S. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From simonw at xxx.uk Thu Jul 29 16:28:33 1999 From: simonw at xxx.uk (Simon Warner) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:28:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Pussy action!! (sorry, I couldn't resist... and it IS relevant... read on) Message-ID: Kevan Cooke wrote under the title of... KANGAROOS: teaching female masturbation in school? is there not the danger that it would deprive girls of the pleasure of "self discovery"? they should definitely teach female masturbation to boys though. sex education is shit, moving swiftly along from the basic scientific facts and the need for contraception to pictures of kangaroo embryos. kangaroos? what's that all about? just imagine how much better the world be if they actually taught you something useful like how to be *good* at it. i mean *really* good at it, like me ----- This got me thinking about a program I saw recently. It was a sex education class, and the teacher was pointing out where the love-button on a girl was. The classes were mixed, with the three girls in the group giggling at the diagram and at the camera, but all the boys were paying attention and asking questions. Just think, if that kind of thing keeps up, sentences like "No, not there, ... up a bit.. no ..." could become a thing of the past... When I had sex education, I remember being at the back of the room and trying to be sensible-looking, 'cos everyone else was laughing - my mum was teaching the class (along with a couple of other teachers). It went dark and they put this film on, of animals frollicking around. No kangaroos, but I reminder the cats doing it - then kittens appearing. I mean, what help is that? I went home thinking my cat was very naughty. O.K. - I was pretty young... Chumley :) Lurking, but in a nice way... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jfowle at xxx.edu Thu Jul 29 17:26:41 1999 From: jfowle at xxx.edu (jfowle at xxx.edu) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:26:41 -0400 Subject: Sinister: hmmm Message-ID: what is it about belle and sebastian that makes me smile like a fool at most moments? how can a musical group inspire such joy into my being? i do not understand i think they're magical. and everywhere i go everytime i drop the name... i'm surrounded by nice people patting me on the back and saying "hooray for you! i love b&s too!" well, i just think it's pretty neato. that's all. not much. i enjoy "listening" to these conversations. i hope you're all happy out there. jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Thu Jul 29 17:35:13 1999 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:35:13 EDT Subject: Sinister: Stuart M spotted in Olde Londone Towne Message-ID: <135e0e6d.24d1dcc1@aol.com> JM Taylor mentioned the Loose club at Camden's HQ club in London this Saturday eve - well, at the risk of sounding like a dastardly plugger (and I'm not even on commission), one of the DJs at said groove-parlour is former Sinistrine Funky Fred (who plays B&S, Nothern Soul, etc), and one of the attendees last Saturday was none other than Mr Murdoch himself. Yoinks. Being too cool to get his CDs signed, Fred engaged Stuart in merry "wasn't Bowlie ace?"-type banter for about 10 minutes, but failed to get any info on future B&S releases - which is a tad rubbish, frankly. By the by, is Track & Field worth going to tomorrow night? Stephen. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.edu Thu Jul 29 17:45:00 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.edu (bfundak at xxx.edu) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:45:00 -0400 Subject: Sinister: My looper dream Message-ID: <852567BD.005C033C.00@sp27.bgsu.edu> I had a dream that Looper played "Quiet and Small" for my friend Liz, who I also happen to be crushed out on right now. It didn't exactly make sense, because while Liz is quite wee, she is not very quiet. However, in my dream she found love when she found the one guy who talked more than she did. As for love...I started the thread about whether there is a perfect love or not. I think that no such thing exists because a.) there is no such thing as a perfect person and b.) "perfection" is an aesthetic quality and as such, it is pretty much impossible to define what that perfection would be. I've gone out with many women, and at some time been happy with them. I guess if it feels right, you should go with it. Right? (This could also apply to the thread about female masturbation...) Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From adelas at xxx.edu Thu Jul 29 17:58:57 1999 From: adelas at xxx.edu (Adela K Smith) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:58:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: It's a fact! Message-ID: <199907291658.MAA06663@mail2.sas.upenn.edu> Hello all. I am recently out of the nursery and had no intention of posting (beginner jitters, you know) until I started reading all of this stuff about female masturbation. Being a female who masturbates at least as much as a man might and has no problem announcing it (HEY EVERYBODY, I MASTURBATE AT LEAST AS MUCH AS A MAN MIGHT!!!!), I was understandably... aroused, if you will, from my lurking slumber. As far as the other discussions go, ain't talkin' 'bout love. I'm still learning. Anyway, this being my first post and whatnot, here are some things you may or may not want to know about me: 1. I like B&S. Duh. I've never seen them live, as they canceled their Philadelphia show due to Isobel's being ill. I'm patiently waiting for them though. I don't care how long I have to wait either. That brings up a bit of love wisdom then doesn't it? Love waits. Indeed. 2. I am "Xavier's" (or as I like to call him, "Ben" - isn't that a weird, creepy name?? I made it up myself) girlfriend, so if you want to know the man behind the mysterious Scorpio facade, you know who to ask. Of course, I'm an Aquarius so I'll just lie to you, but whatev. 3. I'm a serial newsgroup lurker so don't expect to hear from me much. I tend to be off-topic all the G.D. time, so it's best to keep me quiet. 4. You can guess who my list crush is. But I also have to say I have been thoroughly entertained and/or enlightened by Lesley's and Erica's posts over the past month or so. Maybe you guys could give me some witty post lessons? That's about enough of me then. Thanks for having me. Adela +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SSharp5210 at xxx.com Thu Jul 29 18:13:03 1999 From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:13:03 EDT Subject: Sinister: Thang yew Message-ID: Hi kids. The working week is nearly over.Many thanks to the quite staggeringly beautiful listees who sent the filthy jokes...the one about the asthmatic lesbian was particularly good as was the "Incestuous sheep".Cheers boys and girls. Steve S xx p.s Someone asked about first kiss/music things.I now show myself up as an old git by remembering that mine was to "Boys" by sabrina.We'll never see the like of 1988 again *sniff* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com Thu Jul 29 18:08:33 1999 From: Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com (Jim Schmidt) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 99 10:08:33 MST Subject: Sinister: after life Message-ID: <9906299332.AA933268468@mail.newtimes.com> two posts this week, neither of them directly b&s-related. but after add n to (x), i didn't think it could happen again, but it did...another fantastic night...in ONE week. anyway, if it's playing in your city (tonight's the last night here in san fran) or coming soon, go see a japanese film called "after life"...honestly, it's one of the finest films i've ever seen...and while watching it, i thought of b&s and the sinisterines (that would make a good band name, huh?)...it's a truly original and moving piece of art. i can't stop thinking about it. for those not familiar, it takes place in what seems like an abandoned school where people who have just died come and are "counseled" by a group of case workers who must elicit just ONE memory from each person's life which they will carry with them to the next stage of eternity. the catch is that once you choose a memory, it's staged and filmed (according to your details) and then projected for you to view...this is the only thing you'll remember forever...a filmed re-creation of your fondest memory. i don't want to spoil anything else about the film for those who haven't seen it, but it works on so many levels. i was on the verge of bawling near the end, and especially for all of you digressing on the nature of love, there is a sad and beautiful romance at the film's center. just see it. it's nearly flawless. cheers.jim. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jlphilli at xxx.edu Thu Jul 29 18:30:46 1999 From: jlphilli at xxx.edu (jennifer phillips-bacher) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:30:46 -0500 Subject: Sinister: you must learn to speak Portuguese Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990729123046.00909dd0@students.wisc.edu> hello sinister. there's been some talk around these parts about the things that non-posters do when they're not not-posting to sinister. so, you really wanna know what i'm doing instead of posting? are you sure?!? well okay. i've heard that outlines are de rigeur these days, so I'll follow suit. here's what i've been doing: 1. RELIVING THE MULLET DISCUSSION If you search the archives, you'll discover that everyone's favorite 'do, the Mullet (aka hockey hair; the Short-Long), has been the subject of many a fine discussion. I can't get enough! I dream mullets. So today, I was "surfing" the "web" and came upon this lovely website: http://grove.ufl.edu/~paisita/mullet2.htm Make haste! 2. MAKING LOVE Often when I read my daily dose of sinister messages, my mind turns to that physio-chemical-emotional-mindfuck known as "love". A wise man once sang "Love, hoo!, good god y'all, what is it good for?" and I applaud his fine lyricship. Love shmove, that's what i say. Waging war is much more my style. The only way for me to successfully repress my feelings of warm gooey love for my fellow sinisterians is to build pipe bombs in my basement. My mum warned me that someday a nice fellow will come along and violently rip me away from Mistress Mayhem and I will be cradled lovingly in the arms of Lady Love, but after scraping my knees for the final time on the playing field of amour, I can only say, "Mum, you're a rotten liar!". Humph. 3. SUMMER READING LIST Maybe my current state of discontent has something to do with what I'm reading. I'm juggling "Nausea" by everyone's favorite existentialist Sartre, "Laughter in the Dark" by Nabokov, and "Lipstick Traces" by Griel Marcus. Here's what i've learned so far: 1. life is nothing but excrement. 2. marriage is silly because it all ends up in cheating and lying anyway. and 3. punk rock is the answer. or is it the question? For the rest of the summer, I vow to read nothing but P.G. Wodehouse. 4. THE WINDY CITY The time has come for me to leave America's Dairy State, Wisconsin--I'm heading south, baby! For anyone who is interested, I will be moving to Chicago in a matter of weeks, so if you're around the area, either a resident of the city or a visitor, please let me know, I'd love to make you Rice Krispie treats. I think a September meet-up would be terrific, maybe before/after the Magnetic Fields gig (9/17)? 5. FEMALE MASTURBATION 6. SWEET SWEET MUSIC Tigermilk has really rescued my summer from the death grip of heat and sun. I sit on my plush orange loveseat, eating blue popsicles and listening to "My wandering days are over" and "I could be dreaming" over and over and over again. In front of a fan. Naked. (ok, the last part is a lie) And how could the heat possibly get me down if I have Os Mutantes' "Baby" on cd? So, there you have it: the main activities of a sinisterian who never posts. Stay tuned til next time when I tell you all about making paper out of pulp. xoxo jenn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From glawler at xxx.ie Thu Jul 29 19:06:11 1999 From: glawler at xxx.ie (Gary Lawler) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:06:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: They are one and the same, two teeny little bulls Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990729190611.0085a410@gpo.iol.ie> LOVE AND STUFF It has to be said, I've never really thought about this too deeply - but reading through everyone else's accounts it seems that it all has a different meaning to each person, and the whole discussion has offered plenty of tasty Brain Food for me to chew on for a long while yet. LEGEND OF THE LURKERS AKA, "The missing 950". This list is quite difficult to keep up with, so I'm guessing that a lot of people don't post because they're just skimming and are afraid that what they have to say has already been said in one of those unread mails. Or something. SEX EDUCATION IN SCHOOLS "Should masturbation be taught in schools?" - bit of an odd question . . . isn't that where most people find out about it? :-) Indeed, there was some talk of sex education and it made me remember an old science class where we were asked to draw diagrams of both male and female reproductive organs and both my diagrams could have fit between the blue lines of my A4 refill pad. RELEVANT BELLE & SEBASTIAN CONTENT Would go here if I had any. THIS GREAT TREND Of making little headings is tops, and so I give a Medal of Skillful Brillantness to the person who devised it (I've forgotton who it was already . . . sorry! :-)). -- Gary Lawler ---------------- ICQ: 11115268 AIM: seclite369 ---------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mariannebratlie at xxx.com Thu Jul 29 20:16:55 1999 From: mariannebratlie at xxx.com (Marianne Bratlie) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:16:55 PDT Subject: Sinister: sex in school... Message-ID: <19990729191656.90609.qmail@hotmail.com> .no, not having sex in school, ..when we are on the subject "teaching sex in school", I would like to ask a question that has crossed my mind a couple of times. Do you think the lessons we are given ( I can remember getting the first one at the age of ten , or nine or something, and it has never stopped since..)has taken away some of the "excitement" connected to sex? I`m just wondering how it was when you discovered everything on your own (with someone, or yourself for that sake )- without having seen stuff on the telly, or been told in school "how to make babies"-and to always wear a condom, ....and so on. I`m not saying it`s not important to teach about sex in school, it is very important, especially in todays society, and it`s nice that we can talk about sex openly too, but have we crossed some kind of limit? Has sex got to "commercial"??? (This is the right word, right?? It is in norwegian, anyway...) I`ll have to go now, hope I`ve made my point.my mummy will get upset if I don`t show up to dinner NOW.... take care xxx Marianne ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ISawUfall at xxx.com Thu Jul 29 20:17:32 1999 From: ISawUfall at xxx.com (ISawUfall at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:17:32 EDT Subject: Sinister: It's "Morgan - A Suitable Case For Treatment" starring David Warner. Message-ID: It's "Morgan - A Suitable Case For Treatment" starring David Warner. i thought it also went by the title "oh Morgan!" but i may be very badly mistaken. at any rate, if any one can track this puppy down i'll be indebted to you....sexual favours, etc. i am in california by the way.... -dave! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mariannebratlie at xxx.com Thu Jul 29 21:15:47 1999 From: mariannebratlie at xxx.com (Marianne Bratlie) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:15:47 PDT Subject: Sinister: sex in school... Message-ID: <19990729201552.61056.qmail@hotmail.com> >From: "Burke, Jeffrey" >To: "'Marianne Bratlie'" >Subject: RE: Sinister: sex in school... >Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:54:33 -0400 > >Hey there. >I'm on the sinister list but alas don't have a voice yet. :( >my personal experience on sex in school is not it doesn't lose the >excitement... >in the US they teach you the basic anatomy way before your anatomy looks >anything like you're seeing. then you really don't talk about it in a >formal >setting again that's when friends rumors and experimentation take over. >I think the US school system is particularly conservative compared to some >parts of the word...scandanavia from what I've heard is very >liberal..that's >why most americans are sexual dysfunctional :) > >Personally I remember getting taken into the music room with all the other >boys and being told all about reproduction nothing much about sex. at the >same time the girls were off getting told the same thing (from a female >prospective I'm assuming..) then we didn't really have anymore official >learning on in in 6th grade (12 years old...) we got a little more on >"human sexuality" in science class and we had a "health" class which I'm >assuming was supposed to be about that but we only talked about the evil >temptations of alcohol and cigarettes...it was taught by the high school >football coach so no wonder there ...:) > >I found a copy of "everything you ever wanted to know about sex but were >afraid to ask" a great book on sex written in the late 60's I think...it >was there I learned about masturbation and oral sex and all sorts of >helpful >things..school didn't do it for me... > >but later when I have my actual first sexual experiences...in college. (I >admit I was a late bloomer :) it was just as exciting as I could possible >imagine... > >that's just my 2 cents.. ...feel free to forward to the list if that's >acceptable...I'm not sure.. I've never seen a list where you had to observe >for two weeks before participating. but judging by the threads and >intellect >of the members it will be worth the wait > >hope all is well where you live. >jeff > >What sounds to you like big load of >trashy old noise >is in fact the brilliant music of a genius >myself... >and that music is so powerful it's quite beyond my control. >--Iggy Pop > >Jeff Burke >Content Coordinator, Popular Music. >www.townonline.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Marianne Bratlie [SMTP:mariannebratlie at xxx.com] > > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 3:17 PM > > To: sinister at Majordomo.net > > Subject: Sinister: sex in school... > > > > .no, not having sex in school, > > > > ..when we are on the subject "teaching sex in school", I would like to >ask > > a > > question that has crossed my mind a couple of times. > > > > Do you think the lessons we are given ( I can remember getting the first > > one > > at the age of ten , or nine or something, and it has never stopped > > since..)has taken away some of the "excitement" connected to sex? > > > > I`m just wondering how it was when you discovered everything on your own > > (with someone, or yourself for that sake )- without having seen stuff on > > the > > telly, or been told in school "how to make babies"-and to always wear a > > condom, ....and so on. > > > > I`m not saying it`s not important to teach about sex in school, it is >very > > > > important, especially in todays society, and it`s nice that we can talk > > about sex openly too, but have we crossed some kind of limit? > > Has sex got to "commercial"??? (This is the right word, right?? It is in > > norwegian, anyway...) > > > > > > I`ll have to go now, > > hope I`ve made my point.my mummy will get upset if I don`t show up to > > dinner > > NOW.... > > > > take care > > xxx > > Marianne > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > > +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jfowle at xxx.edu Thu Jul 29 22:10:10 1999 From: jfowle at xxx.edu (jfowle at xxx.edu) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:10:10 -0400 Subject: Sinister: sex in schools Message-ID: SEX EDUCATION okay well, something that i still wonder about to this day is this. when it was time for sex ed in grade 7 why did the girls get 2 ENTIRE weeks out of gym class to learn all about it, when the boys reported a video in the lockeroom for 30 minutes and nothing more? at the time i was just mad that i had to sit inside on nice spring days, but really, altho i didn't learn much about sex in sex-ed...i wonder if the boys felt they missed out? and why on earth was there such a difference in what we were being taught? in the us sex is a strange thing. i've been told by educators that if kids know that condoms exist and see them well -- then they'll have sex. what?! apparently, some people (mostly those in charge) think that if kids don't know about something...they'll stay away from it. what? i don't get it. seems more likely we'll just go and figure it out for ourselves. MASTURBATION also in the afore mentioned sex ed class i remember the day we discussed the subject. basically, our teacher said. "masturbation. yes, erm, well. there's really nothing WRONG with it. " and that was that. i bet she was a masturbating mad-woman. i personally love to masturbate, have been for the LONGEST time, and walk around preaching the joys of sex for one with most of the other women i meet ... many of which appear entirely SUPRISED! by the fact that i'll even mention it. i don't know about the other 49 states, but in michigan, amongst certain segments of the population...i would consider it a taboo subject. so that's all. didn't intend to post two silly messages today, but such is life. jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From memon at xxx.com Thu Jul 29 23:39:20 1999 From: memon at xxx.com (A. Memon) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:39:20 +-100 Subject: Sinister: invitation to love Message-ID: <01BEDA1B.B8FFDA20@host5-171-252-56.btinternet.com> dear love-lorn folks, there i was listening to bbc radio 2 and i realised i'd stumbled across the soundtrack to all your love-lost-love-found-love-yet-to-be-love-come-to-me stories.... gram parsons and emmylou harris duet of "love hurts." if not just for the line "love is like a stove, burns you when it's hot." those not initiated in this song - please seek it out, and overlook its potential to be cheesy (which it aint). now i'm reliving some Broadcast from bowlie...the song that goes "stop looking for answers in everyone's face." i thought they were excellent, and still can't get over my sour choice of watching mercury rev in the hope that kevin shields would turn up to play with them over dean and sean playing "blue thunder" downstairs. a doomed decision. that is all i wanted to say. now my conscience is clear. cheerio, a m o s +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mark at xxx.com Thu Jul 29 23:55:41 1999 From: mark at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:55:41 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sinister: sex in schools In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > MASTURBATION > also in the afore mentioned sex ed class i remember the day we > discussed the subject. basically, our teacher said. "masturbation. > yes, erm, well. there's really nothing WRONG with it. " and that was > that. i bet she was a masturbating mad-woman. I remember sex ed in 5th grade. The teacher described masturbation as "manipulation of the sex organs". A few of the other boys asked me quietly if I would ask the teacher to explain. So I asked him, what is masturbation again? I asked some strange questions just to see them squirm. "When you go to the hospital to get this done..." No, you don't go to the hospital for that. "OK, then what is masturbation again?" We never did get a comprehensible answer out of the teachers. We knew just enough to make the subject quite awkward for them. --Mark __ Burning Rome : SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 < http://www.burningrome.com/ > < download MP3s, hear RealAudio first > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.net Fri Jul 30 01:40:38 1999 From: rebelstrange at xxx.net (Lesley J Miller) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:40:38 -0700 Subject: Sinister: give me 5 dollars you can call me devil's gateway Message-ID: <000a01beda24$26315e40$3411020a@rebelstrange> There is a reason women don't M A S T U R B A T E as often as men, it's a lot more complex. guys just have it right there in one neat (albeit unattractive) package. they dont' understand what's involved in polymorphous eroticism. it's a whole emotional thing -- women can even get off just by thinking about something, or doing weird exercises. so you see it's far more insidious than you ever imagined, boys. i can understand now why men are so intimidated by females sexually, and feel the need (some of them that is) to objectify. they KNOW that women can sexually kick their asses from here to Saturn. Ha! sorry to bring this up, but i can't keep silent for very much longer--this whole jessicaxo phenomenon is about the most disturbing i've seen on sinister lately. what next--the stevie trousers Playgirl edition? Girl!! you'll get yourself a man soon enough!! al the innocent young boys lured by the sweet lisp of Stuey's songs, are getting their minds tainted by this toronto tart. Where is the Christian Coalition when you need them? here are some anagrams i did one timewhen i was really bored. STU AND ISOBEL ----------- a bed so sunlit a bed so in lust slut is on a bed a bundle i toss so build a nest a bus i'd stolen bestial sound so subtle a din (my favorite) a duet on bliss (my other favorite) dub Neil a toss i'd be a slut, son anus, be stolid snob i'd salute isn't blue soda IS THIS DESIRE ********** Hi, I is dessert I stir his seed dire Seth Isis I tie his dress see this id, sir? Hiss, i see dirt i'm also glad that xavier's girlfriend has a name now, rather than just being "Xavier's girlfriend who rather resemble's Isobel but is a bit taller" can i just say that sinister people are the nicest people on teh net?? i can't wait until i can get my DC photos back, so y'all can see the magnetic fields in their glory, and i'll send in a photo to sinister of me making a fool of myself dressed in a schoolgirl outfit. well i have to go now, twiddle away. oh yeah, also there is no good name for female masturbation, because it's so complicated. i can't imagine a single phrase that would sum it up. i mean wiht guys it's obvious what they are doing. those womenfolks, who knows?? what weird and wacky things are down in there, no one has yet discovered. i do like "molding silly putty" though. LJ "I Hate Myself Productions" http://www.members.tripod.com/rebelstrange "ABBA is the pinnacle of Western civilization" --Stephin Merritt SAVE MST3K!!!! http://www.mst3kinfo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fountainhead at xxx.net Fri Jul 30 00:26:35 1999 From: fountainhead at xxx.net (fountainhead) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:26:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: take me back to the atlantic breeze Message-ID: <040801beda1a$4d33d540$063663c3@oemcomputer> there was a guadalumpan chap who lived in the flat next door to me at university. he spent all year calling me 'gee'. whenever anyone phoned and asked for lee, he would insist that they muct mean 'gee'. t'confused the hell out of my dad. bloke selling tigermilk - you'll find that the market has crashed and originals are now worth 73p. i'm in a good mood, so i'll give you £1.12 for it so that i'll have a full set of original tigermilk table mats. sex education. when we were 12 our science teacher walked into class and said 'penis'. everybody burst out laughing and she refused to teach us sex-ed until the third year when we might have grown up. and finally. love. maybe there is no 'one' perfect person for each of us. maybe we each have several people who could be perfect. i hope so because i've met one person who i feel sure is perfect, but geography has cast it's evil spell over us. when i think of all the wonderful people that i've met before and since, it saddens me that 'she' is still the one that i think of when the subject of love rears it's spikey head. so is it really better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all? i'm not sure. i don't think that the last three years of lonliness are a fair price to pay for the snapshot of perfection that i still cling to. f. -- fountainhead at earthling.net busy - http://fly.to/balls doing - http://listen.to/chemex nothing - http://fly.to/fountain -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gripper_sea at xxx.com Fri Jul 30 00:46:50 1999 From: gripper_sea at xxx.com (gareth james) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:46:50 GMT Subject: Sinister: sex and LOVE Message-ID: <19990729234651.90773.qmail@hotmail.com> I am the only one who has noticed that the subject of love has moved on to discussing masterbation and sex ! LOVE I have been in love once .It was great while she thought she was in Love with me as well .Then over the period of about a year it deteriorated into hate . We were not completely similar people .But I think that what attracted us to each other was that we both wanted to be like that other person. It is like the two half orange's thing I think .As you become a better person/more like the person you want to be when you are with them . There has been millions of pop songs written about love and no one has come up with an answer yet .I don't ever expect them to. I think being in love is everyone's goal in life but self abuse and sex are much more realistic targets and far easier to put into words. Masterbation Yes we all do it .Please will someone write in if they don't Sex yes please Joke tom cat and a tabby cat were courting on a back fence at night. The tom leaned over to the tabby with pent up passion and purred... "I'll die for you!" The tabby gazed at him from under lowered eye lids and asked, "How many times?". B&S they are a bit good aren't they Love you all Gareth XXX ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Calumn at xxx.uk Fri Jul 30 01:08:34 1999 From: Calumn at xxx.uk (Calumn Shearer) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:08:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Shakespear's Sister + 10 years = Alisha's Attic (not relevant) In-Reply-To: <199907202046.OAA11952@turtle.esosoft.net> Message-ID: <000101beda20$1930f4c0$3401a8c4@pinky> erm... yeah, hello! It's been quite a while since my last... (I want to write confession) mail, so I'm going to let a few topics drop by the side of the "Information Superhighway" as it were (how long is it since you've heard *that* cliche'd phrase, then) A la Trous.... POSTER Ailsa Ross (apparently we're using both names...) wrote quite some time ago... >Calumn Shearer has a Tigermilk poster autographed by >Chris Geddes and some Art School bouncers and some random people from >the bar (including me, but I was unsurprisingly drunk so it's probably >illegible). He's supposed to be doing a competition for it but that'd >involve de-lurking. Go on, Cal, you know you want to :) OK, I did. See, that wasn't so hard... So yeah, I've got this poster, and since it's an old tradition or charter or something ( (c)Robert Rankin) I'm going to have a competition for it. A varient of writers block set in here, for could I think of a competition to have... (altogether) "Could I 'eck as like!" after much humming and hawing and the frankly quite scarily metaphysical idea of having a competition to come up with the best competition (I think some of my friends take *way* to many recreationals) I have what amy be in fact the poorest excuse for a competition of all time... It is as follows... I have in my possesion, an original (as in Electric Honey) promo poster for "Tigermilk". (this is *not* the prize - I love it too much, sorry) what I want to know is.... What's on the back of this picture? No hints, no clues, if someone gets it right by the, say the 8th August, the signed poster's theirs. Otherwise, I'll give it to the answer that made me laugh the most. STANDARD DISCLAIMER: Answers to me, NOT THE LIST!, don't complain to me if you can't read the writing, 'taint my fault. Errors and Exceptions Ommited. For a full list of winners, get stuffed. other stuff: MASTURBATION Is fine, between consenting adults... (or have I got the wrong end of the stick) I just wanted to use it as a subject heading LOVE Is a particularly clever STD. David Cronenberg (I think) PLEA I *still* don't have any of the B&S "rarities" (for want of a better word) so if anyone wants to send me a tape, I'll try to find something to trade you. SHAMELESS PLUG I had to get up this morning to sign for a delivery of CD's by my dad's band. If anyone wants a *particularly fine* example of Scots/Irish folk music, gimme a shout. I'm undercutting the shops by _only_ charging a tenner each. a bargain. sorry Honey. Way too long an e-mail already, so I'm going to go on... (this is a joke) Love and hugs to all, Calumn (not thinking before he "send"s ) PS - anyone else going to see the Tindersticks in Edinburgh on the 30th August? It'll be my birthday - I'll be the one requesting "The State I Am In", "just for a laugh" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vlass at xxx.com Fri Jul 30 01:36:10 1999 From: vlass at xxx.com (vlass at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:36:10 -0400 Subject: Sinister: love n stuff Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19990730003610.006c5a70@mail.interlog.com> dear sinister list i made the big switch from regular list to digest mode last night, and already i'm feeling more organized. my parents are using the computer more now and the endless "sinister" messages are a bit mystifying to them so i thought i'd lighten the load. anyways, they'd probably be even more mystified if they read the messages about FEMALE MASTURBATION. there are just some things you don't want to discuss with your parents. that boy who found his mother's vibrator - well, props to you, young man, for not being thoroughly creeped out by that. love, you ask? love is this - "you'll come to a sinister picnic with me in september, right?" "do i have to?" "WHY wouldn't you?" "it might be uncomfortable..." "WHYYY?" "because i won't know anyone there... i'm not good in situations like that" "SO WHAT????!" *seconds later* "you'll come, right?" "yeah yeah.." har har. i'm not really so tyranical.. teri xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Fri Jul 30 01:31:02 1999 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake E Hamilton) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:31:02 -0400 Subject: Sinister: a message from Bill Blakie Message-ID: <000d01beda22$cf0f9240$a71574cc@woody> whoop whoopies, this isn't a full completely irreverant post. i'm writing to inform everyone about a new Sinister only game. entitled....da da da da!.........the password game. (i need singularity) upon my main web page there lays a huge yellow link entitled 'the password game'. follow that and a brief sentence will appear, saying something profound. then using your wits, and your intelligence, write in a word that you feel would be appropriate. it's not a completely unrelated word, usually. this one i feel is pretty easy. if you do get it right, you'll be sent to a glorious page in which you're told to email me and give the correct answer. this is just a fun sort of belly and sebby fun thing. the winner gets: well, the winner gets Blake's Who Mix, a comprehensive mix tape consisting of all good Who, 70s, or not. if you have no idea what the who sound like, then this is an ample opportunity to freely explore mr. townshend and friends. if you're an old fan, do it to make me feel silly. if somebody gets the answer right away, as in tonight, then i'll still send the tape, but i'll make it harder next time. go to http://members.tripod.com/nucleartrout and then click through the intro page, and then you'll see the big yellow sign beckoning you. good luck, and keep up the talk about masturbation, nnnnnk? love blakie xx -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- "Fuck!" - Jarvis Cocker +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From melissa.thornton at xxx.ca Fri Jul 30 03:09:23 1999 From: melissa.thornton at xxx.ca (MelissaThornton) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:09:23 -0400 Subject: Sinister: i saw my gramma on the bus. Message-ID: <37A10953.9DEDF711@utoronto.ca> i really did see my gramma on the bus today on my way to the subway. there is a stop out side of the old-folks home where she lives. i had to yell out to her about twenty times cuz she's going a little deaf. she was with a friend and she said the were going to sherway(this is a mall by my old high school). i guess they were just going to chill with the rest of the senior citizen posse; you know check out the action, do some shop lifting. and it's funny. right on the bus she starts talking about FEMALE MASTURBATION (it seems fitting to capatalise it...every one else is darnit.) well i managed to give her a sedative i happened to have handy to calm down the bumbling old nut! oh you wanna hear something funny she said to me at christmas? she was opening up her presents and says: (insert scotish accent) gramma: "ohhh...you needn't all have bothered." me: "whaddayah talkn' about?" gramma: "ohhh...all these presents for me. it's such a waste. i should have been dead years ago." if anyone wants to hear further gramma ramblings please email me. perhaps we could organize a EMILY'S GRAMMA CLUB... yours etc. captain emily. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Fri Jul 30 07:06:18 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 02:06:18 EDT Subject: Sinister: capitals/looper/dreams plus more Message-ID: In a message dated 7/28/99 10:58:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Iron Jim Hamilton dominated the western world by saying << these flowery depictions of love will probably be shattered when my true love dumps me for a touring chimp puppet stagehand, but for now i'd like to think of it as a natural, nylon enclosed packet of yummy that i can buy for a nickel. >> One of the best descriptions of anything in a long time. HEADINGS FOR PARAGRAPHS a damn fine idea. It's "the tripe" as we in America say FEMALE MASTURBATION I'm not going to touch that subject, as so many others seem keen to. See if you can find the clever "bodily humor" contained there THE SILENT MAJORITY What the hell *are* you people doing? If I didn't know better, I'd think this list consisted of Lesley Jo, Trousers, Sister Disco, Honey, Aranxta, Blake, and about 10 others who post regularly. Sorry if i didn't mention you, but if your name was more memorable and exciting maybe I would have* * not true. I couldn't remember any more anyway DAVE THE MOON MAN at one point I did really believe the moon landing was faked. I was going to go over to Stuart "Stench of Wee" Murdoch and tell him this, but I thought he might just be really frightened. Even though he's probably my favorite bass player ever. Just because he looks like my friend's father, who i knew when i was very little. Even watching the documentary now just makes me feel safe and secure. I think that if i were to tell him this, he might rear back in fright, like a trapped animal, and then have karn beat me with a typewriter. LAST NIGHT"S DREAM I dreamed I got a job shouting questions at celebrities as they walked out of rooms. For some reason journalists were too busy, and they needed eager youths to shout at famous people leaving courts or restaurants and then record the answers. It was a very elaborate dream and made perfect sense at the time. FAKE Has anyone else noticed that Honey and Sister Disco never post on the same days? and their initials are both P-M.? ** Perhaps Sister Disco is Honey's bad side? (or good. I'm not sure) ** by this rational, Sister Disco/Honey is also Pac-Man and the Prime Minister MIND CONTROL I think next i'm going to start doubting the existence of the 70's WHO and see if i can make stuart david write a song about that..... yours in disbelief. dave luna hombre +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From untitled at xxx.com Fri Jul 30 09:06:12 1999 From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 04:06:12 -0400 Subject: Sinister: gang wanking masturbators - sounds like a Hip Hop band, no it doesn't Message-ID: <199907300406_MC2-7F02-A3FA@compuserve.com> Does this mean we're all wankers? Hum, I guess so, though it's nice to think we all do it 'cause it doesn't seem so dirty all of a sudden, I think we should have these discussions more often. "Melanie Chisholm" wrote, er, well she wrote to me 'cause she's not out of the nursery yet. << i cannot post to the list as I am too new, but two euphemisms which amuse me are "jilling off" and "paddling the pink canoe" there is some website with about a hundred others, >> Hum, thanks Mel, but what's the web site, I know I'd like to know. I MASTURBATE TOO YOU KNOW, (I just don't want to be left out) Do you know what's funny, I write with one hand on the key board... And the other +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.cullen at xxx.com Fri Jul 30 10:16:45 1999 From: p.cullen at xxx.com (Paula Cullen) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:16:45 +0100 Subject: Sinister: oo oo oo oo oo ooowooooooo.........i wanna sex you up Message-ID: <01BEDA74.A07D99C0.p.cullen@music-control.com> just a quick note to clear up some confusion: "GEE" is pronounced, not as in "GEE WHIZZ", but rather with a hard "G", like the "G" in "GATE" for example. so the american readers may rest easy that their conversations have not been littered with obscenities until now. :) to the best of my knowledge, it is an irish expression........... and the american bloke i met, well his name was spelt "GUI" but pronounced "GEE", which is why i was wondering if our "GUI" was a "GEE". not literally, you understand. must dash, Rickeeeeeeeee Marteeeeeeeeeeeen has come on the radio, and i LOVE* him......... paula cullen booze explosion booooze!!!! yeeeaaahh!!! * i am not trying to be sarky here. i REALLY DO loooove him. really. oh, you lot wouldn't *understand* anyway. :( im going to sit in my room and sulk and listen to soppy records now.......... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alan.singfield at xxx.com Fri Jul 30 10:50:57 1999 From: alan.singfield at xxx.com (Alan Singfield) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:50:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Subjective headings Message-ID: <6357CBA4ECC4D211A67C00805FD787D7065CDF@shuban.isoftplc.com> I do like this subject header idea but having "female masturbation" written in capitals when your boss is looking over your shoulder makes him think you are looking at porn... hmm. so, GEE There. Most people don't think its rude. I remember having a polite dinner conversation with an Irishman and a Pakistani. I was talking about curry to the Pakistani and he complained that his mother always used to smother their food with ghee (clarified butter, pronounced the same way). The Irishman collapsed into fits of laughter - he did have a filthy mind, which somehow really impressed me. GUNS AND AMMO > I have spent the last few months absolutely convinced that the Romantic > Scotsman has "SpaNNers will be shot" at the end of his mails. I felt dumb, > as usual, not getting the in-joke I was sure everyone else was laughing at. > (I'm pretty sure that's what a spanner was when I were a lad), which would > probably be unwise on this list :) It *is* very disconcerting to skim through posts and see your name in lights. Luckily I read the full paragraph and was reassured. I'm going to start a game of 'shooting-tick' - so ERICA WILL BE SHOT in a more focussed way for her photo next time. Pass on the goodwill, people. Spanners. >--< +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Fri Jul 30 11:21:03 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:21:03 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: How to improve my tally ( and why I am not a wanker) Message-ID: Hello list! Uf, Dave Jygsaw is basically making blush and blush with all his praisals (is that the proper English word?). You know, your name is not in the same line as Trousers and Honey every day. By the way, Jygsaw is one of my favourite British shops if it was not so expensive...I just like too much posh clothes and shoes in spite of my poverty and my enjoying and appreciating such poverty, I cannot help it. It is like being a Catholic by culture, as Clare Short says.Marianne's post about sex education did not disappoint me, as it is the most Scandinavian you could get from our Catholically repressed country point of view: Sex is a powerful force coming right from the devil and rising from the lowest part of your tummy as every low instict, obviously.And Swedes and all this people up there in cold places, you know, they just do naturism, talk with their children about how to get a better orgasm, and everything is cute,clean,and blonde like in a Timotei ad.(This is a joke, eh?) I never really had sexual education at school, but once I was asked by the priest if I had commited any fault against the sixth one.It was so cryptic, that I felt really embarrassed in such a moment, because I could not remember the 10 comm. in order, and I got confused with the ninth one, and thought: He cannot think I am married at 15! It was one of my last confessions,by the way, but I should revise the Cathecism before going back for another one. Nick Dastoor, it would be too bold and brassy of me to use any familiarity with him, after his talking of that algorithm that applied to my case came to mean 'you-are-going-down-mad-quickly-in-my-charts', is not making it tomorrow, so I have lost my chance to improve my image with my 'live' performance.I am much better than recorded! See you as many of you as possible tomorrow, and the best of pre-Eclipse week for the rest Arantxita +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From messentw at xxx.uk Fri Jul 30 13:03:49 1999 From: messentw at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?William=20Messent?=) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:03:49 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: All the news that's fit to print Message-ID: <19990730120349.21271.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Hallo friends, The magnificent Sister Disco had the gall to ask; So, Will, did you get your end away on that boat, or what? Did you >manage to WEIGH ANCHOR or was there NO PORT IN THE STORM, leaving you >unable to HOIST THE JOLLY ROGER, practically RUDDERLESS, alone with >MIDSHIPMAN PERCY on a storm-TOSSED sea at the mercy of REAR ADMIRAL >BACKPASSAGE and his WHITBREAD ROUND THE WORLD YACHT RACE? Erm, no. Bollocks. The boat remained resolutely unrocked, the hatches well and truly battened down, the mainbrace unspliced. Is that a valid double entendre? It is now. Sos, popkids, but my legendary date has now been postponed until next week due to unforeseen circumstances. All refunds can be collected at the point of purchase. Thanks for all of your thoughts though, I will of course bring you all the news as it happens (not that you are in the slightest bit arsed). I have, however, managed to get her hooked on B&S (and crack cocaine, but that's another list). I used 'The Boy With The Arab Strap' and 'La Pastie...' to lure her in and she digs it all now. Another convert! If she should ever go so far as to join this list, though, we'll keep these words our little secret, yes? Hmm? I'm off. At the very least I've swerved this whole maturbation issue. You'll all go blind, you know. Love Will x === _____________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From theresajlowe at xxx.uk Fri Jul 30 14:18:02 1999 From: theresajlowe at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Theresa=20Lowe?=) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:18:02 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: An apology Message-ID: <19990730131802.28043.rocketmail@web706.mail.yahoo.com> Oh dear! What have I started! I am so sorry, I doubt very much if you will believe me but my original post was actually meant to be discussing censorship in the movies and how women are usually wives, mistresses or mothers. Unfortunately due to my newly single state this may not have come across as intended, still it sparked off quite a good discussion didn't it? Anyway it seems to be that there is going to be quite a crowd outside my window (thanks to my darling Kevan and to Sister Disco). So i shall try to do my best. Bribes are of course always accepted. I promise that my next e-mail will contain some lovely belle and sebastian content. Lots of Love Theresa xox _____________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stugardiner at xxx.com Fri Jul 30 14:29:14 1999 From: stugardiner at xxx.com (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:29:14 BST Subject: Sinister: Ooooh, behaaaave... Message-ID: <19990730132914.9387.qmail@hotmail.com> WHY DID THE JAPANESE MAN THROW HIS WIFE OFF THE CLIFF? SAKE. Why do all the women on the list seem to assume that men spend all their time talking to each other about masturbation? I know I don't talk about it to other people... WHY DID THE FRENCHMAN THROW HIS WIFE OFF THE CLIFF? CHAMPAGNE. I'd just like to point out that my mum doesn't masturbate. She's never had sex either. WHY DID THE AMERICAN THROW HIS WIFE OFF THE CLIFF? BUD LITE. Although on possibly an even more taboo subject, my parents did meet through a dating agency in London. They still don't know that I know this though, I found out when I stayed the night with my dad's old best man a few years back. WHY DID THE IRISHMAN THROW HIS WIFE OFF THE CLIFF? GUINNESS. Lesley Jo raised again the subject of her being seen as a 'list celebrity' by some people. I had someone (who shall remain nameless, because I think they're on the list again now) say that to me once, that they were starstruck at meeting me or something, which freaked me out a bit. Personally I just think they couldn't believe they were talking to me more because they'd never met anyone so terminally dull. And hey, lurkers, don't be afraid to post just because you've got nothing informative or amusing to say, it's never stopped me... WHY DID THE SPANIARD THROW HIS WIFE OFF THE CLIFF? SANGRIA. Essential equipment for tomorrow's mammoth London picnic: lots of alcohol and lots of suncream. Apparently it's going to be 30 degrees C out there. Looks like football's out of the question then... WHY DID THE MEXICAN THROW HIS WIFE OFF THE CLIFF? TEQUILA... Big Stu ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Fri Jul 30 14:55:06 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:55:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: 13b Roddington Mews (Private Road - No parking) Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22825906@server1.HITEntertainment.com> IN THE FACE Steven Trousers - it's all your fault for reducing Sinister to a parade of tabloid soundbites. Shame on you, man! Though apologies for the wet patch all over your sofa... We never had sex education at my school. Obviously being well-brought-up, overprivileged young men (no girls, no sirree) they thought we could figure it our for ourselves. Erm...fortunately the interest of the 12-year-old male in the pages near the back of the biology text book (and they were always at the back, like they hoped they wouldn't get to them or something) led to a semblance of knowledge which has stood me in fumbling, mediocre stead ever since. One disturbing thing from top international celebrity Stuart Gardiner's post is the thought of NO FOOTBALL at tomorrow's picnic. Ignore him, everyone knows the footie's the best bit. Especially since Miss Vicky is now out of plaster, and out for revenge (which could come in handy should Ally Cook starting coming over all David Batty *again*)... God, I have nothing to say! Makes a change, Markx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From spowley at xxx.uk Fri Jul 30 15:08:45 1999 From: spowley at xxx.uk (Sean POWLEY) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:08:45 +0100 Subject: Sinister: That Neil Young, he the man Message-ID: <00006273.CW21260@londonsouth.businesslink.co.uk> LAWRENCE CHARLES MIKKELSEN wrote: 'Any suggestions from fellow listees about the perfect B&S song for my wedding?' I nominate'Slow Graffiti' because it has the right mix of calmness and sturdiness and its the fave b+s track of me and my missus. We got a friend to play 'Like a Hurricane' on the humungous church organ when we got married, and it was fab. I'd originally wanted something from the early works of Cabaret Voltaire (Nag, Nag, Nag?), but was fortunately overruled. Sean. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From oliver at xxx.uk Thu Jul 29 20:23:04 1999 From: oliver at xxx.uk (Oliver) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:23:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: time to write. Message-ID: <001101beda9f$475ec140$2c10e1d4@rcspo> It seems all you regular guys are complaining about the lack of everybody else posting. There are many possible reasons for this including 1) They have such busy and fun packed lives that they just do not have the time to post 2) We haven't got anything interesting to say and 3) They can't be arsed. Guess what category I fall into (it's handily signposted with an inclusive pronoun) (I don't do english so I don't know what we is called in the jargon). Anyway, on to writing something not so interesting. I have a theory that Belle and Sebastian, for that is the subject of the list, have only a few different tunes and the last 3 albums and 4 ep's/singles have used up all the tunes. This theory is strengtheded by the fact that A Century Of Fakers and A Century Of Elvis have exactly the sametune, not to mention disturbingly similar titles (what are they trying to say? Elvis was a fake?). This is why it has takn so long to record the 4th album (I'm conveniently forgetting the fact that most of the members have been in their own bands) because the tunes have to be dressed up fancily. Also, I can't recall any song being about the first person - for example SHE's losing it, The State I Am In about a book someone wrote. So I hereby classify this genre Repetitive Tune Observational Folk Rigged Steps Beating Music. Has a certain ring to it don't you think. Although I prefer to call it RTOFRSBM. I suppose I'm going to have to contribute to a thread already, as if anybody cares and as if anybody is reading this. I am not a woman and hence I am proud to talk sniggeringly and euphamistically about giving the snake a good seeing to, or bashing the bishop, or....... but can you ever imaginge guys talking frankly about something like this? and sharing advice on how best to do it? The only way we can cope with talking about masturbation is to dress it up in code and laugh about it, in case what you're talking about is different and perverted and all your friends begin to hate you. The End Oliver +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Calumn at xxx.uk Fri Jul 30 18:01:28 1999 From: Calumn at xxx.uk (Calumn Shearer) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 18:01:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: RE: 9 Roddington Place, and I'll owe you one In-Reply-To: <199907301329.HAA26161@turtle.esosoft.net> Message-ID: <000301bedaad$4118e320$3401a8c4@pinky> Keef wrote: THE 70's WHO a lot, but also wrote: Calumn - weren't you going to sell that poster you got signed by fucking everyone at Maryhill community centre for charity, have you done it yet you thieving gypsy bastard. I ended up giving it away, in a (now traditional) B&S compo frenzy. A nice chap in Leeds won it, by stringing together a load of B&S song titles in a wee story. I can never remember if I sent the winning entry to the list, I'll have a nosey in the archives later. AND, Mr. Watson, I'm very dissapointed that you would disparage the lifestyle of the Gypsy (or old age traveller, as I belive they are now called. by me at least). - I'm far better at blagging than any old run-of-the-mill travelling Romany. Whatever happened to the Po Parrot? who kidnapped her? has there been a ransom? Here's a Scots (and translated) Haiku to try to arraign her captors. Sunnet thunner - Sudden thunder - the joco dug staps loupin the cheerful do stops jumping dumfoonert aghast by Bruce Leeming +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From robin.stout at xxx.com Fri Jul 30 18:33:15 1999 From: robin.stout at xxx.com (Robin Stout) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 18:33:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Monks and Bishops Message-ID: <000901bedab1$9b98c6e0$65e5abc3@default> ORGASM There was a boy in my class when I was, oooh, about ten years old called Tim. He came into class one day and said "I'm having an orgasm!". We couldn't understand what he was talking about. What was an orgasm? Was it like an armadillo? You see Tim was the sort of kid who had a telly in his room and had been watching it, with one hand on the off button, after most of us were in bed, and had seen a programme about orgasms. Tim had been too preoccupied in listening for the creak on the stairs to know what an orgasm actually was, so seeing as the kids thought I was quite clever they asked me. "Actually", I said, "It's pronounced org-an-i-sm. It's a sort of animal I think." Tim was sure that wasn't what it was at all, but I insisted that was what it was. Good job they listened to me, eh? BISHOP I read somewhere that men "shake hands with the bishop" because if they didn't their bollocks would explode. Not an actual bishop of course. Apparently the testicles fill up and become quite tight and if you don't have a wank you will have a Dirty Dream instead. So maybe this explains the song. Although Stuart seems quite fond of wanking, doesn't he? Maybe it also explains why monks always walk so slowly. LIST CRUSH I'm feeling dead happy now that I have two crushes on the crush list. Thanks! BUMBLING OLD NUT Cap'n Emily called her gran a "bumbling old nut". This was very funny. STUART'S OLD TEACHER If you haven't seen the all-new Belle and Bebastian site yet, have a look. Mad Dog Murdoch's piece about his old teacher is dead funny. Dare to be square, kids! Robin xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jeanette at xxx.com Fri Jul 30 14:30:13 1999 From: jeanette at xxx.com (Jeanette) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:30:13 +0000 Subject: Sinister: lurkers are people, too! Message-ID: <37A1A8C7.6C36@ktc.com> 1000 LURKERS I'm one of those scary people who just sits here and reads every word you "popular kids" write in the Sinister diary. I can't speak for the other 999 lurkers, but I'm not nearly as witty and charming as Mr. Dastoor, as dirty-minded as Mr. Miller, or as sweet and lovable as Ms. Miller. So, I prefer to keep quiet. After this brief message, I'll return to my little corner and continue to enjoy the well-thought-out words you Sinister lovelies share with us. MASTURBATION I can't type one-handed. BELLE & SEBASTIAN Who? Love to all you little clique-ish rascals, Jeanette +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From classyguapo at xxx.com Fri Jul 30 19:55:25 1999 From: classyguapo at xxx.com (Thomas Murphy) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:55:25 PDT Subject: Sinister: i lurk therefore i am Message-ID: <19990730185525.77879.qmail@hotmail.com> well list folk, i am finally over the hay fever i contracted whilst up in massachusetts for the looper show. i was back home on cape cod for a few days and it got to me rather fierce and i was worried about transmitting it to all of you through a post. umm, anyway, the show was fantastic. i got there super early because i couldn't hook up with my friends at the appointed time and place because as i was on the bus to boston we were detoured due to the rte. 128 overpass on rte. 3 northbound was crumbling, so i was an hour and a half late. so i just took the t to the middle east and drank beer and had some nice veggie grape leaves for two hours before they let me in. i think it was the beer that i had consumed that caused me to accept my friend sean's (who is also on the list and lurking) gift of a cardboard crown from burger king, which i wore with reckless abandon. yes, that was me up front and to the right of the stage. i don't post that often as my life in san antonio, texas is kind of like albert finney's in "saturday night and sunday morning", although i don't get into fights, and i'm not currently shtupping anybody, let alone a married woman. and let alone the married women i shall. you have my word. however, i shall be in london, and subsequently paris, for a time in september. perhaps this will provide fodder for posts of my exploits. i get in london on the 23rd of september. yes, i realize i'm missing that bowlie II thing by only a few days. shitty planning on my part. until later, ta ta! thom _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From k.watson at xxx.uk Fri Jul 30 18:03:44 1999 From: k.watson at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 18:03:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: 10 Roddington Place Message-ID: THE 70's WHO The new Manic Street Preachers song was on the radio this morning and am pleased to discover that I like it. They've also learnt a new big word to use in 'Tsunami'. Seems as though 'Tidal Wave' would scan better but who am I to argue with lyrics that have obviously been written by the great Adrian Mole. Still, I do like it, I like it when they do soft rock with a tune, as opposed to their other stuff, which is soft rock without a tune. THE 70's WHO Myself and Tag are writing a new Rock Opera for Roolz. It's about a Deaf, squint and tortured bloke called 'Thommy'. If anyone's got any ideas for a storyline, please contact me. THE 70's WHO Nice to have the Greek visitors across last weekend, hope you had a nice time, and hope you're having a good laugh in London at the moment. THE 70's WHO Discovered a great AC/DC, Belle and Sebastian connection. AC/DC (in the 70's naturally) had some records produced by some blokes called Vanda and Young. It turns out that Vanda and Young are in fact nothing other than great Australian pop combo Flash and the Pan - best known for their lyric "What's that cookin' at the palace tonight... Stu and Beanz"! I'm listening to AC/DC at the moment - "Hell isn't a bad place to be", can't say fairer than that. THE 70's WHO All this talk of women not slapping their granny as much as men do, I think is bollocks, my ex used to be at it at least ten times as much as me. THE 70's WHO Yeah, Ceremony is a Joy Division song, isn't it on the live part of "Still", I think so anyway... I like "In a lonely place" better. THE 70's WHO Calumn - weren't you going to sell that poster you got signed by fucking everyone at Maryhill community centre for charity, have you done it yet you thieving gypsy bastard. Take care, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From StephenJH at xxx.net Fri Jul 30 19:57:09 1999 From: StephenJH at xxx.net (Stephen Heister) Date: 30 Jul 99 11:57:09 PDT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19990730185709.20060.qmail@www0c.netaddress.usa.net> Hello People, Umm.. Do to the recent rash organized and proper labeled and sectioned e-mails, and the more recent irrelevant labels, i will follow my nature of rebelling against conformity and will not include any labels and try to make this message as chaotic as possible. Yes well, thank you. oh wait i have something else to say. To the non-posters... Yes well, this is only my third post, and already i am not checking my spelling, so it is just the matter of being comfortable. And Good for you i say. Because really people that post a lot are very arrogant! Including myself. (wait read on) I have been writing for some time now. (irrelevant Short sci-fi stories) and writing is the most horridly arrogant career avilible. To think that what you have to write is important enough that over a thousand people would want to read it. Besides i always thought that B&S listeners were shy because of environmental extremities that come with listening to the music. Why would the Internet be any different than "real" life. Hurray for you i say. Might we now get off the subject of masturbation? Everyone has made their point and we are beginning to repeat oursleves. Lets see what else did i think was important enough for all of you to read?? Oh yes. GUI means Graphical user interface and Americans use GEE as a euphumisim (see look i mis-spelled something) meaning Jesus, some superstition about saying the lords name. It is ok though because the Jew's fell for it to with the Word Jehovah, so i forgive them. Simles. Oh and i think i will shut-up now. Goodbye People. Stephen Heister, StephenJH at netscape.net "Hi I'm the local reject" ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Kt788 at xxx.com Fri Jul 30 20:29:26 1999 From: Kt788 at xxx.com (Kt788 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:29:26 EDT Subject: Sinister: sinister: when life gets ya down Message-ID: <8091d06a.24d35716@aol.com> aaarrghhhh.... i believe in reincarnation and i believe that i was a very bad person in my previous life. I wonder what i could have possibly done. Murder, theft, debauchery? Was i perhaps a pirate, or a mafia hit man, a tax man, maybe. I shall never know, but it is ruining my very repentent present life, I can assure you. Strange, cruel coincidences are around evey corner, I tell you! I haven't left my house today for fear of what is next. It's good to have all you people's lovely posts to read in the meantime. I shall not contribute my two cents to the hot topic of the day. I am quite shy and blush often. do you believe in fate? i never did, but i am re-thinking my point of view. and i also think i must have broken some mirrors and let some naughty black cats cross my path. oh boo hoo. lurker? i don't think that's a very nice term for infrequent posters. It makes me think of Lurch from the Adams Family for some reason and he is scary. must leave house now and go out into the big, scary world where only bad things happen. my advice: stay in and live your life through a good book. my love and devotion to you all, juniper +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SSharp5210 at xxx.com Fri Jul 30 20:14:15 1999 From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:14:15 EDT Subject: Sinister: Lurkerish types. Message-ID: <55f9a5cc.24d35387@aol.com> Hi kids. I fly in the face of convention by not including subject headers.I defy you Stevie Trousers.Strike me down!. It would appear that the 1000 non-posters actually have lives.This came as a blow to me as I had assumed that they were intimidated by our masterful eloquence.Ha. Anyone else think that masturbation is perhaps no subject for this list?.(Unless that is you want to go into really quite graphic and explicit detail.I CAN type one-handed) Steve S xx.Extremely sunny natured (It's the beer) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tjohn at xxx.uk Fri Jul 30 20:45:36 1999 From: tjohn at xxx.uk (Timothy John Roberts) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 20:45:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: ive had a revolutionary idea! lets raise a peoples army and seize control of the list... Message-ID: <001101bedac4$369a9c60$ce52883e@freeserve.co.uk> i dont know about the other 1000, but the reason i havent written anything recently is that i am too ashamed to show my face because the new deadhippy pages arent up yet like i had promised. can i get it on record now that this is because my brother is a MUPPET. i have writ them, honest, im just waiting on him to put them up. i mean, theyre already obselete. actually theres a lot of stuff ive been meaning to ask yous about in the last few weeks... like did you hear the other night when john peel played that old galactic symposium record, the woefully inept cover of YMCA? at the bit where the saxaphone was meant to come in, all there was was a pathetically faint squalling, then a voice in the background saying "ah, shit.." i only mention this to raise the notion that yer man murdochs saxaphone 'performance' at bowlie may have been intentional, as an obscure reference to a crap record by a band youve never heard of. i lie awake at nights considering this possibility. someones sending haikus! ill show you these now, as ive got the book sitting here: WEST OF SCOTLAND HAIKUS by BRENT HODGSON... ma een are gaun thegither: Ah wish she wud pit up some curtains. nae, nae kiddin, Ah wis havin a kip, a caur rin ower ma heid. ye're no oan pal, ye canny gie ma brither dug biskits tae eat. a rammy ootside, whit aboot? fuckin Peter dropt the carry-oot. ma dug is pan breid, ma douts have fawin oot ma pockit, an yous waant a tap! one day youll thank me from tjohn. my signature line has disappeared, no kidding. it was there when i went to bed last night and now its gone. i dont even know our website address from memory... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Fri Jul 30 21:28:04 1999 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake E Hamilton) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:28:04 -0400 Subject: Sinister: cheaters cheaters all of you! Message-ID: <000f01bedaca$08de7c00$6fe64ace@woody> hmmmmm, seems as though a lot of people have recently found the loophold that i 'thought' i had rectified. in other words, the wrong version of the password page is up there, that'd be the one that you can easily (if you know a computer at all) find the password. so i'll be taking the page (not my homepage, of course) offline for a bit to solve this...hrm.... well, you are quite sinister, indeed blake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From miss_modular at xxx.com Sat Jul 31 00:11:11 1999 From: miss_modular at xxx.com (Diana Nuss) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 23:11:11 GMT Subject: Sinister: I'm bright and young and gifted in my autobiography.... Message-ID: <19990730231112.73923.qmail@hotmail.com> It may be the feverish cold...or the extra large slurpee from 7.11 giving me a large sugar buzz ...but I have decided to break the silent observing and write... I like being a silent observer...there were two things that my friends told me they wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole, my taste in men (wimpy, gangly, stringbean nerd boys...)and my taste in music...so music was always a very private thing for me...while all the others were running around in sprinklers as a child I was in the house fingering all the little grooves in my dad's large record collection and staring at the celing with the brown cushioned earphones blasting the Zombies, the Velvet Underground, the Who...., the stones....whatever my gready ears could get a hold of...which didn't quite make me the most popular kid in school...that and the fact that I was 6' tall by the time I was in grade 5...to dispell all the rumours that B&S fans are short and cute (I am rather tall and weird looking)... Ermmmm, anyhooo...I ran into b&s by accident a few years ago while connecting fm a Stereolab site...and ran out and bought iyfs and ripped the pacaging off so fast that I nearly broke the cover opening the casing....anyhoooo, la da da...not surprising that I haven't been able to walk down the street whistling some B&S song for years... Well...reached the bottom of my slurpy...and haven't really written anything relavent...but the reason why I wrote all this shite is that the reason why I read all your mail everyday is that it is nice to know that there are other freaks like me out there...(hmmmm, how is that for warm and fuzzy feelings...) And by the way, the Looper show in Toronto was excellent...even though I managed to find the only people taller then me in the room to stand behind...*sigh*... Love ya, Diana "You wrote a book about yourself, The people left it on the shelf, You'll write another one, Now you've got a story that's worth talking about" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rfadden at xxx.com Sat Jul 31 00:32:45 1999 From: rfadden at xxx.com (Robyn Fadden) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:32:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Sinister: Never masturbate on the first date... Message-ID: <19990730233245.25470.rocketmail@web107.yahoomail.com> Hello perverts, Oh first kisses I don't think there was any music (though I wish wish wish B&S had been there). But the first time I masturbated, hmm... har, har. Really I don't know. BUT, the first time I had sex my boyfriend played EMF "Unbelievable" afterwards - so that was pretty nice, if a bit obvious and loud. And it's still a kickass song (or maybe I am biased by nostalgia.) Anyway, a very short note w/o b&s content except to say that there is a new stereo in my house and tigermilk sounds ever so much more amazing when not bogged down in crappy 1992 sanyo ghettoblaster sound. I lurk because I work (I would much rather live virtually in this list, no, that's a lie, no, that's half truth). P.S. Looper was good in Vancouver, but Stu did not have his night goggles on and complained about the lack of good clip-on lighting. Oh well, a good show despite the bit of grumpiness. Oh I hope they still like our fair city because we like them. Love Robyn And the subject has no ref to there's something about mary (well, I guess *now* it does...) Hollywood, you creep into everything. === I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden at yahoo.com Vancouver, BC _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MWaggner at xxx.com Sat Jul 31 00:39:05 1999 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 19:39:05 EDT Subject: Sinister: I'm bright and young and gifted in my autobiography.... Message-ID: <66554640.24d39199@aol.com> In a message dated 99-07-30 19:14:16 EDT, you write: > in the house fingering all the little grooves I believe former lurker "miss modular" may have inadvertently added to the list of female masturbation euphemisms : "Fingering the groove" has a nice ring to it. Diana seems to be a natural born smutty Sinisterine. I'll second Swannie's post that the Looper show at Tramps was really good, despite the sound mix being off, making it too bass-y. Stuart was chatty. And he really didn't smell like a steaming puddle of wee, AND he finally got a new t-shirt. Perhaps those two things are related. His new shirt has a picture of the Petite Prince on it -- pretty damn twee. Karn was smiley and blonde. It was nice to meet listees Marie Elia and Kim at long last. And to see Minka and Mr. Mick, although you can't go anyplace without bumping into them these days it seems. But the best was finally seeing Swan in person after almost two years of Sinister chat. Her university entrance essay was about B&S -- how B&S is THAT? I really miss the ozone layer. --michele +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Sat Jul 31 01:23:17 1999 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (kerry) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 20:23:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Sinister: Looper "review" Message-ID: --- i sent this a few days ago, but there wer some problems. so i apologise in advance if you get it twice because it got through and i missed it or something. --- hello. this is my first post in several months . . . you probably don't remember me, but this was in last week's new yorker magazine: "looper is the brainchild of belle and sebastian bassist stuart david, his visual-artist wife, karn, and his photographer brother, guitarist ronnie black. stuart sings and speaks with a soft scottish lilt, and the group's low-fi songs are infused with the sounds of children cackling, typewriter keys clicking, andother odd sounds. their performances are backed by karn's homespun video images of toy scooterw, tree houses, and spaceships. the net effect is a childlike exuberance that's still enver far from the cruelty of youth, a prime example of which is the lovely ballad "burning flies". i'll shut up now, -kerry http://hamp.hampshire.edu/~kwl96 "i'd be riding horses if they'd let me." -- palace, "horses" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jdscott at xxx.net Sat Jul 31 03:04:43 1999 From: jdscott at xxx.net (Jason Scott) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 22:04:43 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Fw: hello, I must be going Message-ID: <003e01bedaf9$0ec8b8e0$04000005@cgocable.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Jason Scott To: SINISTER LIST Sent: Friday, July 30, 1999 9:53 PM Subject: hello, I must be going They've given me a voice. God help you all. Fancy Ruler, this is all your fault. ;) Now then...erm...my name is Jason. And for those abOOt* to rock, I salute you! If there's anyone else here from Toronto, I'd love to hear from you. Email me at sjason at hotmail.com , I think I'm going to compile a handy list so that I may invite you OOt and abOOt to various shows and piss-ups et al. When I'm finished the list, I'll email it to everyone else on the list, geddit? So start bogging down that HotMail account. It'll make me feel wanted. Bonus prize to the funniest subject line! Aren't *I* ambitious in the name of socialization!?! O.K....reading the sinister list for weeks while in the nursery has penetrated my dream state. Here's what transpired last night during R.E.M. sleep. It all beats the hell OOt of me: Item #1 Andy Bell out of Erasure was busy working with a team of construction workers repairing the house I happened to be in. I looked out the window and saw him approaching. He was wearing a roller-set in around his bangs. He said something abOOt it being o.k. for him to work like that. Flash forward: He was now sitting on the couch talking to a bunch of girls mentioning he needed to do something else with his hair. I mentioned to him that my girlfriend was a hairdresser, and that she could do wonders for him. So he agreed, and we set up the appointment. My g.f. was happy as all-get-OOt to do a celeb's hair. End of that part of the dream. Concensus: Am I gay? Is my girlfriend? Is Andrew Bell? Er...nevermind. Item #2 I was staggering home when I passed a British pub (in dream-Canada) that I had never seen in the neigborhood before. Outside, I found on the ground, a knife and fork set, that had been stolen and cast aside. So I picked them up, went into the bar, and plopped them down on the counter, returning them to the bar. I didn't say anything like "I found these outside..are they yours?" I just said nothing. Then it was like the "record-needle-scratching-to-a-halt" sound effect, and everyone looked at me and started laughing. They thought I was being cheeky or something for just plopping the silverware on the bar and saying nothing. Much back-slapping and pint-buying and affectionate doe-eyed birds ensued. End of "Dirty Dream No. 2". I am as perplexed as you all on that one. Concensus: Am I gay? Is the bartender? Is everybody in the pub? Er...nevermind. Item #3 My friend in town is a DJ (yeah, like who ISN'T?), and I dreamed I was at his place goofing off, and looking at his stuff. I was lloking through his cassette tapes and discovered he had these Belle & Sebastian bootlegs**. I tossed*** the idea of stealing one from him when he wasn't looking around in my head, but decided against. I think. I think I woke up after that. Concensus: Am I gay? Is my DJ friend? Are Belle & Sebastian? Er...nevermind. Anyone with ACURATE dream deciphering abilities, please email me your findings! Oh, and I watched the entire Blair Witch Project today on my computer! The marvels of science and the internet! If there are any law officials reading this, I've since deleted it all, so NYAAAH!!! O.K. enough rambling. For today. Drop a line and say hello. Or feel free to skyrocket me into list crush oblivion. HuzZAH! A big "How's it goin', eh?" to all the folks I've emailed personaly already, here's looking forward to meeting the rest of you! KEY: * = Stereotypical Canadian-speak. read: poking fun at myself because I can, and it's fun. See that, Yanks? =) ** = Belle & Sebastian content, or lack thereof. You decide. *** = Masturbation content, or lack thereof. You decide. word to your pink bits, Jason D. "I don't own Tigermilk yet, so shoot me, I'm waiting to buy it cheap in the big city" Scott Certified Graphic Communications Specialist A D R E N A L I N D E S I G N Innovative Web Design & Print Media Solutions Email: sjason at hotmail.com Visit online at: www.adrenalindesign.com (where you can see many cool things!) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sat Jul 31 03:33:45 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 19:33:45 PDT Subject: Sinister: ho hum Message-ID: <19990731023349.87519.qmail@hotmail.com> HOW ABOUT THE WEATHER,EH? Hot enough for ya? It`s not too bad though...I raise my hand above my eyes and scan the horizon..and I sense a storm is a-brewing.I can feel it in my bones. *rocks back and forth in her rocking chair* FRANKLY,THE LIST IS SCARING ME AT THE MOMENT But that`s ok..I think I will just sit quietly in the corner and think about pretty things. I WISH I COULD FIND A BIG BAG OF MONEY AND PAY NO CONSEQUENCES Really..I do!There`s so many things out there that are calling to me,plus everything is on sale round this time.Suppose I will have to be squeegee girl to finance my trip to england. I ONCE HAD A BOYFRIEND NAMED RAMBO I really did...he was very nice,but a little immature.I thought he was my soul mate,but I got a little tired of the ammunition necklaces always getting in the way when we`d kiss.Now I don`t believe in love. BEAVERS ARE BOTH MALE AND FEMALE AT THE SAME TIME It`s true! I read it in the newspaper...it was front page.(Sad I know..not that they are confused,but the fact that its front page news) JULIA ROBERTS IS A HORSEFACE That Runaway Bride ad is really irritating me.20 million dollars a movie she get.Why! Why cant someone give me 20 millions dollars.Oooh whoo..aren`t we so witty with the "tight butt" joke.If it`s Julia Roberts that men are attracted to,I hope I live alone in a mudhut forever chasing catfish in the nip. QUEBEC COUNTRY AIR MAKES ME FEEL GOOD It really does...and even though I am close by,I will miss it.From now on I will be able to order pizza at any hour of the night,if I wanted to...but I would prefer being able to skinny-dip at any hour of the night.You can`t swim in city rivers,either..can you? I bet city-folk get their knickers in a knot over everything,too.They probably have some un-holy laws to ban swimming. And those public pools! *shudder* I wonder if my foot will bubble and melt and then turn into a vapour if I dared dip into the water.You know,people pee in those pools. WHY IS GUI A NAUGHTY WORD,YOU WEIRDOS As prounounced like Jean-Guy...and Guy Carbonneau? Oh,and you`ll have to excuse me if I don`t reply to mails,I`m moving right now and everything is in boxes,and then I`m going to Detroit for a bit,but I will try and visit libraries.Last summer I did this,I checked mail only to discover Belle and Sebastian would be releasing a new album.Maybe I will be 2 times lucky! Have fun at the picnics,you strange,but loveable nuts. love, genevieve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From FearOfPop7 at xxx.com Sat Jul 31 03:38:33 1999 From: FearOfPop7 at xxx.com (FearOfPop7 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 22:38:33 EDT Subject: Sinister: looper in New Yorker, Looper at tramps, Radiohead fans @ tramps Message-ID: <13685402.24d3bba9@aol.com> In a message dated 99-07-30 20:24:37 EDT, kwl96 at hamp.hampshire.edu writes: << but this was in last week's new yorker magazine: "looper is the brainchild of belle and sebastian bassist stuart david, his visual-artist wife, karn, and his photographer brother, guitarist ronnie black. stuart sings and speaks with a soft scottish lilt, and the group's low-fi songs are infused with the sounds of children cackling, typewriter keys clicking, andother odd sounds. their performances are backed by karn's homespun video images of toy scooterw, tree houses, and spaceships. the net effect is a childlike exuberance that's still enver far from the cruelty of youth, a prime example of which is the lovely ballad "burning flies". >> i heard about this article as well but not by reading it. it was 2 am in the morning and my friend and i just got off the train from the looper show in NYC. the train car was empty by this stop and i had just finished an article about Stanley Kubrick in Premiere. so down the steps we went to go and look for his dad's car. when we found it and got in, his dad starts shooting off these looper facts. "How was the show with the bassist from Belle and Sebastian? Did they have any video footage of kids running around?," were almost his exact words (it was 2 in the morning). It was quite the strange occurance because my friend had told none of this to his father. so my friend got around to asking where the hell he found that out from and he came back with, "It was in the New Yorker." i myself am a quiet lurker. i only wrote this because im at my aunt's house with nothing better to do. the looper show was quiet entertaining but i was a little disappointed that the songs were stripped down. they just didn't have enough people to play the little riffs that get added throughout each song. my friend and i waited outside tramps from about 5:30 to 8:30 because we got into the city too early. the plus side to that was we got to talk to stu d and karn outside the club before the show. they seemed kinda surprised to see anyone there that early. they signed my friend's looper cd (i forgot mine) but i got my ticket stub signed by both of them. karn used stu's back as a writing surface. well, i guess i have nothing else to write. wait, i've thought of something. i met some people at the show who were big Radiohead fans but we didn't get to talk much. they said they were on the RH mailing list but if they're on this one too, email me if you'd like to talk more about the Radiohead or whatever. -chris +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From u01cjtc at xxx.uk Sat Jul 31 03:55:37 1999 From: u01cjtc at xxx.uk (Colin Campbell) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 03:55:37 +0100 (BST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: Some of my friends are in the phillipines , and are apparently having fun. I however am not, on both counts. So to while away those long holiday days of getting up at 2pm and staying awake till dawn I have become a bit of a wanker, in the litteral sense. It helps, and if you are into zen wanking, as I am, you preserve your semen and therefore also your life force by not ejaculating, which also means you can keep it up for hours at a time, which tends to upset the rest of my family at meal times, but they seem to have stopped noticing recently. I have found that much pleasure can be obtained by using a selection of glove puppets, one on each hand, who can have conversations with each other, one talks while the others mouth is full, if you know what i mean! Girls should masturbate and enjoy it without feeling ashamed, they should discuss it with complete strangers in public parks while squatting over small dogs to take a shit. colin. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From memon at xxx.com Sat Jul 31 11:25:28 1999 From: memon at xxx.com (A. Memon) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 11:25:28 +-100 Subject: Sinister: invitation to love Message-ID: <01BEDB47.6789D600@host5-99-44-176.btinternet.com> dear love-lorn folks, why is the keyboard so sticky these days? so there i was listening to bbc radio 2 and i realised i'd stumbled across the soundtrack to all your love-lost-love-found-love-yet-to-be-love-come-to-me stories.... gram parsons and emmylou harris duet of "love hurts." if not just for the line "love is like a stove, burns you when it's hot." those not initiated in this song - please seek it out, and overlook its potential to be cheesy (which it aint). now i'm reliving some Broadcast from bowlie...the song that goes "stop looking for answers in everyone's face." i thought they were excellent, and still can't get over my sour choice of watching mercury rev in the hope that kevin shields would turn up to play with them over watching dean and sean playing "blue thunder" downstairs. a doomed decision. well, i may see some of you at the london picnic this afternoon which is going to so sunny i may sit under a tree on my own eating crisps. i dont do hats. oh no. i hope someone brings an umbrella. that is all i wanted to say. now my conscience is clear. (for the next 10 minutes) cheerio, a m o s +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stuartdavid_fanclub at xxx.com Sat Jul 31 12:26:48 1999 From: stuartdavid_fanclub at xxx.com (The Stuart David Fanclub) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 11:26:48 GMT Subject: Sinister: Notice Message-ID: <19990731112648.86083.qmail@hotmail.com> Dear Sinister List, You know... we weren`t joking.We really are going to a Stuart David fansite. If you send a mail in the next few weeks we won`t get to reply to it, as the Fanclub is going on holiday.You can be assured we will have throrough brain-storming sessions during tanning sessions.We`ve all got nasty tan-lines right now. We really didn`t get that much of a flurry of activity anyways,but thats alright,we work with what he have,dammit. As always,if you have anything concerning Stuart David,that you would like to share with us, we are more than happy to hear or see,and will reply as soon as we get back. Thankyou so much the people who did send stuff in,it is appreciated. Thanks,(and in seriousness) The Stuart David Fanclub p.s Genevieve...we definitley agree with the Barry White covers as suggestions for songs he could play. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.net Sat Jul 31 23:27:11 1999 From: rebelstrange at xxx.net (Lesley J Miller) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 15:27:11 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Stretch Marks and Spencer's Message-ID: <000a01bedba3$d6951800$3b11020a@rebelstrange> I'M SO FUCKING COOL! someone said something abOOT me saying something about myself being a list celebrity. i certainly hope that's not the case, as i don't recall saying that, and if i did i'd probably have to shoot myself. BLEHH. although i did notice that i have 2 more mysteriously appearing list crush votes. I motion that the archives be unsealed and we get to see who is secretly obsessed with each one of us. it would be cruel fun. TOUCH MY MONKEY! stuart murdoch does smile like a skinny monkey, but what a cute monkey he is!! NOT A HEADING BUT AN INCREDIBLE SIMULATION! i promise i won't talk about masturbation again. unless it will make me more popular with the perverts of the list, and get me sexual propositions. i'll be posting diagrams and instruction manuals on my web page soon, called "HOw to Masturbate a Woman" WHO NEEDS BOYS WHEN THERE'S TWEEDYKES AROUND? Hey. this isn't some kind of exclusionary thing--it's just for fun. Alyssa marie and I had a brainstorm, well actually alyssa had the brainstorm, and then i picked up the ball and ran with it. we thought it would be fun to make the Tweedykes community a reality in cyberspace, for all the lesbian and girl positive indiepop grrrrls to have a space to be all girly in, and moon over cute indie chicks and discuss being twee and what not. So i thought why not. so there is apparently a list now called Tweedykes and subscribing is as easy as molding the silly putty. http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/Tweedykes and i know there are at least a couple more of you out there. it's a little idea. maybe eventually i'll make a web sight homepage for the list, just to be indulgent. oh, and no naughty ppl peeking in the windows thinking they''re gonna see some hot action. you'll get promptly squirted in the eyes with something nasty, i'll have to figure out what, but you'll be sorry anyway. there might be slumber parties, but they should be modest affairs and all dancing must require at least 6 inches of space between participants, and hemlines no more than 1 inch above the knee. Girl #1: I Just Want To Be Friends Girl #2: But I Can Still Think of Being In Your Strong Arms and Fall Asleep Crying, Right? LJ CEO of "I Don't Really Hate Myself Anymore, Actually Sometimes I Rather Tolerate Myself, But Old Habits Die Hard" Productions http://www.members.tripod.com/rebelstrange "ABBA is the pinnacle of Western civilization" --Stephin Merritt SAVE MST3K!!!! http://www.mst3kinfo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Sat Jul 31 23:08:28 1999 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick * Sandcastle Records) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:08:28 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Field Mice List, All's Quiet on the B&S front? Message-ID: <37A373DC.4D248E5D@ohiou.edu> Hello Listees, I shall undertake to use these "headings" in my own little way. I took it upon myself to start a Field Mice list on Onelist, but as I was doing so, I only found that someone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>RUMINATIONS ON THE SUBJECT OF ORAL PLEASURE<<<<<<<<<<<<<< had already done so. I was rather surprised at not hearing about it. Then I discovered that the entire list of subscribers was as follows: The guy who had started it >>>>>>>>>>IT'S VERY HOT RIGHT NOW - SOMEONE MAKE IT COOL AGAIN<<<<<<<<< Me. I e-mailed 'the list' to see what was going on with it (which is much the same as just e-mailing the fellow who >>>>>WHICH HAS TWO HUMPS: DROMEDARY OR THE OTHER KIND OF CAMEL?<<<<<<<< started it, excepting that my inane ramblings get archived for 'posterity.' The gist of it is, he started it and hasn't had any time to do anything with it. So I urge those among >>>SARAH CRACKNELL'S HOBBIES INCLUDE SURFING AND SILVERFISH-WATCHING<<< you who love the Field Mice as much or nearly as much as B&S: subscribe to the Field Mice list! All you have to do is go to www.Onelist.com and do a search for "field mice" at which point in time you will be prompted to go through a series of clicks >>>>>>>>>>>WHILE WE'RE ON THE SUBJECT OF WHO SMELLS OF WEE<<<<<<<<<<<<< that will subscribe you. Ain't technology great, ma? Also, I determined why talk of masturbation cropped up recently. Surely the cause would be the lack of known activity on the B&S front. No Bowlie plans, no release dates, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>REFERENCES<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< no messages from band members saying "we just recorded a song called 'Hold the Mayo'." Not that I blame the band, I'm just making an observation. I'm not particularly angry at seeing masturbation discussion, just wishing there were some B&S-material we could talk about other >>>>>THE MERITS OF ORGANIZING YOUR RECORD COLLECTION ALPHABETICALLY<<<< than dates we saw on a recent side project's tour that is now over. On that note I'll leave you to contemplate the complexities of the Sinister list, and to go subscribe to the new Field Mice one. /"\_/"\_/"\ Brian Pennington, a.k.a. Mick McMick; Sandcastle Records \ / bp224996 at ohiou.edu ICQ#5056758 | | Sandcastle Recs Homepage: http://www.frognet.net/~mick/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | -Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+