From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Mon Mar 1 00:00:02 1999 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 16:00:02 -0800 Subject: Sinister: the allure of KITES Message-ID: <000c01be6376$75b15800$3e11020a@rebelstrange> a short message relating to my last post about the song "kites are fun". i've had two messages about it and apparently it was on the sinister tape tree, so i hope that i didn't seem like i was trying to proselytize to the masses about something they already knnew about. i've also been informed that the actual name of the band is either "freetime" or "free design". actually. well that's it for that. now i feel i should write something more interesting. why dont' bandaids come in little tin boxes anymore? The word of Jess relates to me that "Le Pastie" has been a consistent crowdpleaser on mix tapes. I wouldnt' have much to add, i haven't got much feedback in that area, although the song that converted a grasshoppa into surpassing the teacher, was "the State that I am In". but consider that said grasshoppa has been a mad Smiths fan, and is a very strange girl, and not a mom. i need to go to walmart and get some felt to make my beenie stu. some peach felt, for his boyish complexion and silky soft fingers. i dont' have any skin color fabric. was it m elise before who mentioned edith frost? edith frost ROOOOOLZZZ!!!! OH. who was it before who wised me up to the Altered Images and Claire Grogan? i can't remember but i know they were on the sinister tip. Luck would have it that as i was rooting around in a local thrift shop, in the boxes full of David Soul and gospel records(i saw something called Evie, but unfortunately it wasnt' evie sands, but some gospel singer) i found a 12" of Altered Images. i think it is called Dont talk to Me about Love or something like that. curious, i looked at the writing credits and the name Grogan was on it, so i knew this was that one thing. so i bought it. i haven't yet listend to it all the way, cos it is covered with an ungodly amount of filth and i dont' want to ruin it. (i dont' have any record cleaning stuff) but i played a bit of the beginning. it has a nice trumpety sound, and her voice is very odd. it would befit a ska band. but i'm interested in this "how you say, claire grogan". Strange things. must dash, valerie solanas (LJ) http://www.members.tripod.com/rebelstrange "Everyone begins to get desperate and panicky, and all of a sudden, everything they never understood, they want it all explained" --Ms. Buffat, my HS chemistry teacher +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". List WWW site back soon, I promise. +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MOUSER at xxx.net Mon Mar 1 00:43:30 1999 From: MOUSER at xxx.net (Shawn Krueger) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 19:43:30 -0500 Subject: Sinister: discussion lists Message-ID: <001201be637c$87df3780$0e7e9cd1@default> I too thought the same thing about the jeepster discussion list. I have to admit that I subbed to it to see what it was like. In the introduction notice it says that any discussion not related to the band will not be tolerated. It's not trying to take the place of sinister, but I do think it will be really good for those who don't have the time to read through hundreds of posts that have nothing to do with the band. emily >On Sun, 28 Feb 1999, azrael wrote: > >> So what's this about a jeepster discussion list? i mean, can it really be >> any better than sinister? >> i really doubt that it's necessary. are any of you subbed to it? > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". List WWW site back soon, I promise. +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From travelling_light at xxx.com Mon Mar 1 01:45:57 1999 From: travelling_light at xxx.com (Kin Woo) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 17:45:57 PST Subject: Sinister: Dot Allison gig Message-ID: <19990301014558.26741.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello sweethearts. It's Kin-just-returned-from-London-now-back-working-his-arse-off-at-uni again:) Just wondering if any listees are going to catch the lovely Dot Allison at the Improv Theatre(or is it club?) on 2nd March. (GOD I WISHED I COULD HAVE STAYED LONGER!!!)If anyone is going to bootleg it PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me of it. I would give err almost anything to get my little hands on a copy of it. If you wanna trade, I can tape stuff for you as well- I've got tons of stuff, maybe some you are interested in-on my sojourn to thw wonder that is London I got hold of many a rare/limited edition/promo thingie:) I've got tons of rare Tindersticks (all the albums including "Donkeys", plus a tape of all their early vinyl recordings up to 1995), Belly (again, lots of rare stuff), and gazilions others including Sparklehorse, Air, Andrea Parker, Black Box Recorder, Teenage Fanclub, Pulp, Beth Orton Beck, Lush, Garbage, Throwing Muses, One Dove, Dot Allison, Portishead, live B&S, LIVE St Et and so much more! so please you Dot Allison fans out there, take pity on poor me stuck in Australia, and let's trade:) seeya With A Star Upon Your Shoulder Lighting Up The Path As You Walk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". List WWW site back soon, I promise. +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 9503208p at xxx.uk Mon Mar 1 10:13:44 1999 From: 9503208p at xxx.uk (Sarah Jane Philp) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:13:44 +0000 Subject: Sinister: honey looks like mr pigbag Message-ID: <6A89E367457@student.gla.ac.uk> wHOOp the list is back bringing joy (a reason not to work) to monday mornings Clinkkies to mr honeypaul and his work. I never said did I but mr mitchel exactly reminds me (in looks and mannerisms) of chris who used to be in the perfecto allstars and played that wee riff on pigbag before it got ripped of the other summer and was turned into a dancin tune they would always play over the football. I was wondering if anyone knew where i could get a copy of pigbag, i realise its hardly the standard fair of indie tweelets but i dont know who else to ask. The only other place i found a copy was in the antiquated jukebox in my old bham teenage haunt. Hey i wonder if Mr peel will take a tour round the midlands maybe see the sights where lawrence felt grew up. and the perfecto allstars. What delights do your suburbias have to offer? do do do da sarah* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". List WWW site back soon, I promise. +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sleeka_sounds at xxx.com Mon Mar 1 10:21:03 1999 From: sleeka_sounds at xxx.com (Sleeka Sounds) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 02:21:03 PST Subject: Sinister: Mister Billington Fox Message-ID: <19990301102103.6931.qmail@hotmail.com> Ahoy there Mateys! Firstly I must say some words of thanks. Thanks to little Stevie Trousers for letting me play the caff on Friday, thanks to Pam and Mike for having and feeding us, thanks to Sezah and Sussanah for being super and thanks to all those who came to the caff for being lovely and clapping and stuff. You're all brilliant and I want to take you home to show my mum. Enough about me, lets talk about you....People who sit next to me will plainly see I'm excited by the rebirth of Sinister. It's like an old friend hugging and kissing me, I'm saying get off but what I mean is I want you. I heard a rumour it's all double beds at this Camber Sands thing. Intruiged? Worried? If I was Keith Watson I would be. Christ knows what I get up to whilst asleep, but I usually wake up naked and tired. Anyway Keith, what do you think you're doing?? >This seriously escalated and we wound up having to have a bloody good >wash in the bogs. Bloody hell, man! You promised you wouldn't tell. I got a copy of the Papercuts fanzine thing, it's splendid, well done to all involved. I think it's the best fanzine in the whole world ever, and I know what I'm talking about because I've bought a fanzine twice before. I especially enjoyed Peter Millers story. Julia was pishing herself with laughter when the dog done a jobby. The line "Don't want to be implicated in the Titianix doggy-doo scandal now, do we?", nearly finished her off and she went a strange red, like Jim Robinson in Neighbours before he died.. I want to know how much is autobiographal though, Peter? I have theories. That is all, Chrispoof ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". List WWW site back soon, I promise. +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordi-tv at xxx.com Mon Mar 1 07:51:37 1999 From: jordi-tv at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano i Vilar) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 08:51:37 +0100 Subject: Sinister: i´ll be fighthing... Message-ID: <19990301105137.HM.00000000000DkN2@mixmail.com> ..... agaisnt dragons or any strange creature !!! What happens is that the Camber Sands festival is being celebrated the same date when we, the Jordis, Jorges, Georges, Giorgios.... cel ebrate that the knight of Saint Jordi fought the dragon and killed him, saved the princess, and from the monster�s blood a field of roses appeared. I don�t know if i�ll disguise myself as a 17th century kn ight or something like that, but i�ll be attending this wonderful festival, thanks to Arantxa, who booked me the ticket. IF SHE OR ROBIN ARE WATCHING, you should know that if the last two people that i�ve tal ked to aren�t available for coming, i�ll come by myself. ========================= ========================= Jordiet (...a la radio, tocant can�ons per la quitxalla...) ================================================== Tu E-Mail Gratis en http://www.olemail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". List WWW site back soon, I promise. +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From T.Lilja at xxx.uk Mon Mar 1 11:13:13 1999 From: T.Lilja at xxx.uk (T.Lilja at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:13:13 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Man about the house with Paula Wilcox Message-ID: <19990301111128.3790.qmail@metis.salford.ac.uk> Hi Everybody! I guess I'm a bit of a lurker on this list and normally just read your witty comments. However, I wanted to ask if any of you know something going on in Edinburgh or Glasgow during the easter break (march 27- april 18) cause I've decided to take a trip there from my Manchester basecamp and I still haven't decided exactly when to go. So if you could help a Swedish lad who wants to see the sights of Scotland please mail me. Belle and Sebastian content! I just got dog on Wheels and Lazy line painer Jane the other day (yes it's incredibly late but it's my loss so don't tease me) and i cant belive how diffrent some of the songs sound from the "normal" Belle and Sebastian song. Ooh, and man about the house is such a boring program. Toby +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". List WWW site back soon, I promise. +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Mon Mar 1 12:58:59 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 12:58:59 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Big moles Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22486351@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Fluffy Sarah - Chesney Hawkes' skeleton is lurking in your closet, it seems - so that's what happened to the poor pointy-nosed chap. I was once mistaken for Chesney Hawkes, which was odd, though not as odd as the fact that I was standing next to my mate Damian, who looks *exactly* like our Chez, even down to the sizeable face-moles. Curious. Well, as nobody (apart from Chris) has mentioned it yet, Chris Leonard P!O!P!s with the best of them - he certainly had Ms. Vicky swooning, and who wouldn't at a pair of lungs like that. Surely the new-found power of the Brits-winning masses can now push for his addition to the Bowlie bill? Honey, you seem on fine form once more. I have just thought of a particular present I know you'd just love - are you a vegetarian at all? Anyway, thanks again for reinstating things as they used to be - we don't like change here...which brings me onto the Jeepster list. Erm, superfluous, anyone? And I didn't feel at all comfortable at the "the list should be impulsive and current and shouldn't wallow in it's past history" line - I didn't realise we were all wallowing. I also don't think I could manage writing entirely and unswervingly about my favourite band - knowing that the merest slip of tangential ramblings could lead to censure doesn't exactly leave me feeling at ease. Each to their own, I suppose. Well, it's lunchtime, I'm off to have a fox sandwich from Marks and Sparks. Mmm, vulpine.... Mark xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". List WWW site back soon, I promise. +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Mon Mar 1 06:08:49 1999 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick * Sandcastle Records) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 01:08:49 -0500 Subject: Sinister: The Electronic Return of the Sequels Message-ID: <36DA2EF1.2F231F2C@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Hm... Well, well, well, look what the cat dragged in. If it isn't our old friend Sinister. Where have you been all night mister? You're going to get it! Just wait until your father gets home! Spoil the Rod and Spare the Child I always say...no wait...somehow that seems incorrect. Oh well, it's probably just my mind playing tricks on me. Hm, in the wake of my Dune hyseria this weekend I tried to change my quote on my sig, but I think I forgot to save it, because there's Mr. Friendly down there, still smiling and wishing. Oh well, no matter. I must admit to being somehow surprised when I checked my electronic mailbox from afar. Small pixels reported to me that I had amassed 40 electronic letters in my electronic mailbox. They were all electronically waiting for me to open them up (electronically, of course) though I had to leave a couple of them for later. I must say, there were some very interesting and noteworthy electronic letters, words, sentences and paragraphs, such as... > i've decided that "electronic renaissance" gets > PrOPs! from me -- the petshopboys-esque-ness of it is simply lovely. which was composed electronically by Marie Elia. Evidently Miss (or potentially Mrs.) Elia is a paragon of taste, as such a comment is rare and wonderful. Perhaps the very endangered nature of such comments accounts for the low showing for said brilliant song in the official electronic voting booth. Evidently not enough people are electronically casting a good vote for such a wonderful song. Well, they say that if you sleep with dogs, you'll wake up with fleas. Not that the previous statement has anything to do with Electronic Renaissance, but it is still quite true that people say it. And who can forget when Dave electronically requested that we all electronically submit 5 songs which encompass the width and breadth of the Belle and Sebastian Experience (TM). Surely, Dave, you couldn't just place 5 Electronic Renaissances, all in tandem? Five little ages of bleeping enlightenment, heightened by just a smidgen of synth. Probably not, so in the event that you wouldn't wish to, I will electronically suggest: "Seeing Other People," "(The) Boy with the Arab Strap" "Belle & Sebastian" "Expectations" (&) "Slow Graffitti" On a totally different matter, any and all who might or might not be curious as to whether or not one Robert Wratten is a fan, or alternately despises our Glaswegian heroes, can find the answer to this burning question (and many more) in the next and forthcoming issue of Movers and Shakers. Therein, the aforementioned Mr. Wratten, who has played in bands with names like the Field Mice, Trembling Blue Stars, and the Yesterday Sky, will spill the proverbial beans on his feelings about B&S, as well as beans of other subjects. A cool breeze blew across your flaxen hair as Brandt electronically proclaimed: > I think this is relevant due to the fact that Belle and Sebastian is > releasing a fourth album in four years as well as two side projects. > How much is too much? Is a new album, a re-release, an ep and two > side projects too self indulgent or just productive? Is a double > album self indulgent? My electronic reply to the aptly named Mr. Fundak is that perhaps the point at which something becomes self-indulgent is when demand for it ceases. For example, if there was a limit to the number of songs one could release, where would that leave Stereolab? Most likely in France or England, but why, then, are they able to sell so many limited edition singles and EPs and singles comps and albums and things like that? Wasn't it once Stereolab who once said "Dooby dooby dooby dooby dooby,"? I think it was. I am a fervent believer that More is Better, and that if people do not desire such a tremendous amount of material, they are not forced to buy it, whereas those of us who lick our lips at the mention of outtakes and 4-song EPs, we can just go on being happy, which is what I am going to do, until I remember that I have all sorts of work that I am putting off, and then I will stop being happy for a time, and then pick it up again sometime thereafter. I'm hoping it is similar to riding a bike. I also hope that I am better at being happy (for a time) than I am at not writing run-on sentences. In closing, I would just like to mention that this post shatters the record previously held for the post with the most instances of the words "electronic," and "electronically." /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick/Sandcastle Records <<->> bp224996 at ohiou.edu \ / Sandcastle Records Homepage: ICQ#5056758 | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | -Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". List WWW site back soon, I promise. +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Mon Mar 1 04:45:28 1999 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 23:45:28 -0500 Subject: Sinister: there's a lot to be done while your head is still young Message-ID: <000e01be639e$56e23340$401e05d1@tinystar> welcome back sinisterines, i've been busybusybusy lately, and between writing tedious biology lab reports and essays on early american history and planning a trip to england, i haven't had much time to post. and oh yes, the fact that the list disappeared for a while contributed as well. let's never speak of it again. yes, you read that correctly: yours truly will be arriving at gatwick airport on march 11, ready for two fun-filled weeks in the backwards-driving country. i'm staying with my sweetie in southsea, but if anyone is living in london or southsea or anywhere in the southern area of england and would like to throw a party in my honour, let me know and i will arrive in my best underwear. i'm also looking for museum recommendations or show listings, or random openings. i'd like to be seen, then perhaps i could become a page three star and someone would graciously finance another trip to the uk to attend the bowlie fest. if this fails, i'll be auctioning off much-sought-after photos of myself in my underwear. feel free to visit www.geocities.com/Athens/Styx/3733/ for saucy photos and an idea of just how much fun it would be to share a room with me. and it's newly updated, so even if you think you've seen it all, you haven't. i'm multifaceted, i am, and always a surprise. and i think it's a pretty universal sigh that's being breathed over the return of the sinister list. i can once again be secure in the knowledge that others are back to nibbling at biscuits and wearing cardies. i like to think that we all carried on despite the absence of instruction, but i for one misplaced my favourite cardie and ran out of biscuits. so here's one more day that's a bit better thanks to list mummy honey and all of you (awwww). please note: the purpose of the previous paragraph was not in any way included to try and get you all to send money. however, if you have been so inspired... twinkle, jessicaxo * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * someone had spied on us, i suppose, as we sat beside the canal and ate the sandwiches, drinking not even orangeade or coca-cola but hot milk out of a thermos. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * t i n y s t a r @ w o r l d y . c o m (it's lovely being a girl) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". List WWW site back soon, I promise. +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From richard.connell at xxx.com Mon Mar 1 09:57:22 1999 From: richard.connell at xxx.com (Richard Connell) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 09:57:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: For smut see bottom of message In-Reply-To: <19990301014558.26741.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3622570901031999/A02613/ADVAX1/11D30A791400*@MHS> More downright filth than smut actually but useful unformation none-theless Firstly the PG rated part of the message? Hello, hello, its good to be back, good to be back. Did anyone in the UK see alternative nation on mtv last week? They showed the video for Dirty Dream No2, which ive never seen before. Was that all B&S fans frollicking and cavorting. Can anyone put names of people on this here list to the faces in the video (if any)? Also the week before they should the video to the ballad of ray suzuki by (bunch of) looper(s). How mod can you go? None more mod is the answer. Also had the great new song by badly drawn boy, the most aptly named person in music since captain beefheart (dont go there). Thats it for now, Rich PS SMUT ALERT Do not read any further if you find the art of pleasuring oneself offensive. I read in Mojo magazine (old duffers magazine but had something about marvin gaye and nick drake so i bought) that during the recording sessions for 'what's goin' on' marv wanted to get as far away as possible from the Mowtown standard love song. In order to do this, before each session he had his own little 'session', playing the five-fingered blues with his built in microphone (OK he had a good, hard wank), to get rid of all the sexual feelings he had and take all lovey emotions out of his voice. I cant listen to that album the same way now. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". List WWW site back soon, I promise. +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cchaffin at xxx.org Mon Mar 1 15:21:57 1999 From: cchaffin at xxx.org (Christa Chaffinch) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 10:21:57 -0500 Subject: Sinister: apologies all around Message-ID: Hello its me. I'm so glad we're all back togoether again. Last week was bad for me, mostly because I didn't have your lovely voices coming in and interrupting my workaday life. I am glad we are all united once more. thanks to you-know-who. :) well, i am apologizing for the Kite Confusion of 1999. I sent that song to Lesley on the tape I made her because I knew she wan't on the Sinister Tape Tree and I also knew she would love that song. (And I was right eh?) Anyway, I didn't know she would go about singing my praises for it (heehee) but I have to give credit to JULIE SMITH who sent the tape to the tree with the song "I like kites" on it. Its a truly wonderful song that everyone should have in their collections. And I feel quite embarrassed that I didn't tell Lesley originally where it had come from. So so so sorrrry. My job is sending me to New Orleans for 9 days all-expenses paid. On the surface that sounds like a great deal, but all of the people I work with are old-timey and DULL. I think I am going to be quite bored with nothing to do and no one to talk to the whole time I am away. :( I am preparing AS WE SPEAK for the trip to Camber Sands. Plane and train fare, passports, etc. It is all very exciting, I am just very happy. I think I will have to quit my job to continue preparing. I need to focus all of my attention on that and that alone. Have a nice Monday everyone, -Christa ~*~ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". List WWW site back soon, I promise. +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amp0010 at xxx.edu Mon Mar 1 16:14:42 1999 From: amp0010 at xxx.edu (Amanda Marie Pintye) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:14:42 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: dallas/ft worth gettogether? Message-ID: how bout it kids? let's form the western epicenter of belle and sebastian fandom. elliot smith is playing trees in dallas a week from tommorow. and if that's too short notice, sebadoh is coming round in a few more weeks (27) there will be at least four of my own little crowd there.. i'm pretty sure we can all arrange to show up early and meet some of you. that's really all i have to say that you're likely to be interested in.. manda (who is listening to soul coughing because you can only listen to mayfly so many times.. ) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". List WWW site back soon, I promise. +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From M223CMellan at xxx.uk Mon Mar 1 16:39:41 1999 From: M223CMellan at xxx.uk (M223CMellan) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 16:39:41 -0000 Subject: Sinister: stuff, more, more, lots of stuff. Message-ID: <16400309304273@holyrood.gla.sch.uk> Isn't it nice to know that the band haven't gone all succesful after the brits win. Ahhh. Also, for anyone living in glasgow, or west central scotland, did you hear george bowie on the clyde 1 fm breakfast show last week. He made a cruel jibe about b&s only being able to win awards which are voted by the fans - what an irritating, pop music playing bastard. Oh yeah. Does anyone have any details about the kelvingrove park longest day festival '99 yet? Final point (or not). Some chick (sorry if you find this offensive; its just the way I am) was discussing claire grogan. Has anyone seen her on scottish passport -she has the most whiny voice. Hey - star conection commin' atcha. Her parents are friends of my ex-next door neighbours. Once she visited them and I saw her. HEY i KNOW ITS NOTHIN' BIG, BUT IT'S SOMTHING. Does anyone want my daily record clippings?. They chart the sucess of b&s from the release of TBWTAS to the brits win. I also have a clipping about them getting album of the week in the sunday times. I also have some delgados clippings. Did anyone see sounds of the suburbs at the weekend. Methinks that there is a bit of a repetitive buckfast theme going on. The genuine article final piont here. Do any glasgow sinister folk want to go to a gig or somthing, somtime. Also, I've been really annoyed about looper playing borders bookshops almost everywhere but glsasgow. Or was I not told about that? Chris Mellan C R Y S T A L B A L L S M223CMELLAN at holyrood.gla.sch.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". List WWW site back soon, I promise. +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From WeeChrisBS at xxx.com Mon Mar 1 15:48:33 1999 From: WeeChrisBS at xxx.com (WeeChrisBS at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:48:33 EST Subject: Sinister: Arrr Mateys Message-ID: <278dc165.36dab6d1@aol.com> Wello Hello There, I have a quick question(and 2 other Irrelavent questions) since my internet is busted(AOL's internet sucks!). I ordered or um pre-ordered 2 of the Limited Edtion vinyl singles from Gentle Waves and Looper. I was just wondering when the dates they will be sent? Not that I'm mad that I havent got them or anything. Ok my next question is since Im a Movie freak and im sure theres others on the list. Who do you Think is gonna Win The Oascers? and who do You want to win? I think Saving Private ryan and and Shakspear in love will sweep. I'm campaigning for Saving Private Ryan,The Thin Red line and Life Is Beatiful....actually they were all great! thank god there were no stupid Titanic/Braveheart cheesy epics(no offense to anyone who likes thoese movies) this year. Ok Anyways I must be off To school ::gag:: :( -Damon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". List WWW site back soon, I promise. +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eliam at xxx.edu Mon Mar 1 17:01:55 1999 From: eliam at xxx.edu (Marie Elia) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 99 12:01:55 -0500 Subject: Sinister: monday morning wake up knowing that you've got to go to school.... Message-ID: <199903011653.LAA18583@pellns.alleg.edu> good monday-morning... school schmool! i skipped chemistry this morning, and i am right proud of it! as far as dave's quest for the five (?) songs that are the best introduction, i vote for 1) seeing other people 2) get me away from here, i'm dying 3) belle & sebas-ti-an 4) string bean jean 5) expectations (if ya got it), the boy with the arab strap (if you don't) 5 1/2) simple things (short, but sooo sweet... and it's only, what? two minutes long?) >Everyone I know seems to like Judy And The Dream Of Horses, so >that's probably a good introduction too. for some reason Judy never stands out for me, but i actually know a few moms that like this song, so.... good luck! on the semi-weekly update, kimmy and i subjected the patrons at the coffeehouse where we work to the velvet underground last night... our "tips" jar on the counter by the register is still pathetically empty..... known througout the school for being strange, xoxo, marie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". List WWW site back soon, I promise. +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kittridge at xxx.com Mon Mar 1 16:35:26 1999 From: kittridge at xxx.com (Matthew Broszkowski) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 11:35:26 -0500 Subject: Sinister: new place to air your B&S grieviances Message-ID: <36DAC1CE.286C501F@home.com> hi, I don't post very much, actually I think this is maybe my 3rd posting ever but I have something about belle and sebastian that you guys might be interested in. From the same people that brought you the fake matador board and the pavement board, comes the belle and sebastian message board. It is still in it's infancy as it was started only last week, could be because of the lack of the sinister mailing list. I'm not trying to drag people away from the mailing list, but I thought that for people who find the list.... shall I say tedious and a bit too controlled, it could be another outlet. The board is not controlled in any way and yes, you can even swear! There isn't many people on it just yet, because like I said it's brand new, but that will soon change as more people find out about it. Here is the url: http://disc.server.com/Indices/43955.html Enough of that. Much music aired the Brit awards last week, and since I don't watch much music, my friend had to call me 15 minutes into it to tell me they were on. As anyone who has seen the brits knows, belle and sebastian were presented their award in the first 15 minutes and I of course missed it. I sat through the entire awards unfortunately hoping to see them, gggrrrr, I'm still getting flashbacks of the incredibly boring live performances, Bowie was pretty cool though. matthew http://members.home.net/kittridge/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". List WWW site back soon, I promise. +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From juliesque at xxx.com Mon Mar 1 17:43:04 1999 From: juliesque at xxx.com (Julie Smith) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 09:43:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Kites Are For Everyone But Maybe Not AbbyRoad . .. Message-ID: <19990301174304.5844.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> Hi Kiddoes, It's been a little while since I posted, but in the spirit of the new list . . . . . Hello there. Has anyone ever ordered something online from AbbyRoad? I broke down and bought Nick Drake's Bryter Lyter (thanks to lots of talk about him a few weeks ago) and three weeks later, ahem, STILL NOTHING. I e-mailed them politely to no avail. I guess this is why you should be careful who you hand money to over the internet but I tend to be a naive about things like that. Anyway, just wondered if anyone had had any experience, troubles, whatever with that company. And hey, I don't care if I get credit for Kites Are Fun appearing on the tape tree, really! As long as you all eventually get to hear it. Maybe we should start a "Kites" tape tree . . .:) Christa and Lesley Jo are superdupercoolio . . . OK 'nuff said about that. By sweeties, Julie _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". List WWW site back soon, I promise. +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From PaperSun23 at xxx.com Mon Mar 1 17:34:27 1999 From: PaperSun23 at xxx.com (PaperSun23 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 12:34:27 EST Subject: Sinister: pancakes! Message-ID: <4d01b3b6.36dacfa3@aol.com> Big hugs to the list! Here's my list of five for Dave: 1. I Know Where The Summer Goes 2. Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying 3. Belle & Sebastian 4. You Made Me Forget My Dreams 5. The Boy With The Arab Strap Ahhhhh.....The Byrds doing Dylan....mmmmm Now I'm off to eat pancakes! love and mischief, Moon Patroller Carrie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". List WWW site back soon, I promise. +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ChanA at xxx.com Mon Mar 1 17:08:43 1999 From: ChanA at xxx.com (Arthur Chan) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 09:08:43 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Best intro's Message-ID: <27458275F06ED211910F00A0C9E95BF00ABABE@miller.suissamiller.com> In my humble opinion: 1)Lazy Line Painter Jane 2)Slow Graffiti 3)Put the Book Back on the Shelf 4)Seeing Other People 5)It Could Have been a Brilliant Career / A Space Boy Dream (Tie) Does anyone really care anyway? They are ALL incredible. Lazy Line...does get my blood pumping when I throw it on the player. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". List WWW site back soon, I promise. +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jeanette at xxx.com Mon Mar 1 12:02:42 1999 From: jeanette at xxx.com (Jeanette) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 12:02:42 +0000 Subject: Sinister: And Honey, I've missed you, and I'm being good...* Message-ID: <36DA81D9.6E3D@ktc.com> Thank you for getting us back up and running, Honey! You *are* the Sinister list, and many, many of your loyal subjects appreciate your tireless efforts to keep our delicate world from crumbling! Damon brought up the Academy Awards.... I can^Ã’t think of any reason to watch the Oscars this year. I^Ã’m still angry that the Academy didn^Ã’t bother to give ^ÓHappiness^Ô a nod in any category!! I^Ã’m afraid the entire evening will be devoted to praising ^ÓSaving Private Ryan.^Ô My only hope is that ^ÓShakespeare in Love^Ô will at least take a little wind out of Spielberg^Ã’s sails. There are only two categories with nominees I^Ã’ll really be pulling for: Best Actor (Ian McKellen) and Supporting Actress (Lynn Redgrave). Both did superb jobs in ^ÓGods and Monsters^Ô. I^Ã’d give the Best Actress award to Emily Watson, even though I haven^Ã’t seen ^ÓHillary and Jackie.^Ô She was so good in ^ÓBreaking the Waves^Ô a few years ago... and she^Ã’s supposed to play Angela in ^ÓAngela^Ã’s Ashes^Ô (anybody know when that^Ã’s gonna hit theaters?) And give Roberto Benigni the director^Ã’s award, cuz his name is so much fun to say!! Jeanette * If any of you remember this song, I^Ã’m really, really sorry... I^Ã’m sure it^Ã’ll be stuck in your heads now! (Will Bobby Goldsborough get me banned from the list?!?) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". List WWW site back soon, I promise. +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pgarnier at xxx.edu Mon Mar 1 18:21:48 1999 From: pgarnier at xxx.edu (Philippe Garnier) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 11:21:48 -0700 Subject: Sinister: There and back again Message-ID: <36DADAB2.FD3767A7@hnu.pharm.utah.edu> Hello Lovely Bunnies, So Honey has just finished to defrost the fridge, et la vie est belle! A mile and a half on a bus takes a long time, but moving from France to the USA takes a long time too! I finally gave my two hundred quids for a flight across the ocean. I don't know yet if life is better here, but it could be much worse... Did you recognize me? Honey-the-goldfish recognized me at first sight, and I know you can do it too! Need some help? Bad english, french accent, one L...2 P's...you got it! I am Philippe! Well, I have a lot of things to tell you. Don't worry, it won't be too long. First of all, the brit awards stuff. I think it is the greatest joke ever! I am still laughing... And Mister Waterman is soooooo cool! (I just wonder whether Jeepster really needed to reply to Waterman's statements in the Sun. Is there anybody here who really care about what's written in this f***** paper?). Second story : the Belle and Sebastian new mailing list run by Jeepster : As Honey said, Sinister is less a fanclub than a garden when friends meet. If people from Jeepster want to consolidate the dedication of the fans, well I think the concept of 'consolidation' doesn't belong to the B&S spirit... By the way, Belle and Sebastian don't belong to anybody. Several times David sent messages to say that there was no use for people to create their own small webpages about the band ("because all the information is already on the Jeepster's site" dixit Mister Cuisine). So why creating a new list when this is already one called Sinister? Is it because Sinister get a cold from time to time? I hope it is not the reason... Let's see what they want to do exactely. They might have designed a wonderful brand new concept of mailinglist :) Of course Jeepster can decide to create a new list without asking for our permission. They are big kids. I just hope they have something better and/or new to propose! If their new list is just a kind of carbon copy of Sinister (let's call it Jeenispster), it sucks. I feel good on Sinister. Mayby I will sometimes play in other gardens in the future. Mayby in jeepster's garden. I hope the ones who like to swing on the swings in the Sinister's park will not leave it even if the Jeenipster Park has new electronic state-of-the-art swings! Sinister is my favourite garden, and Honey is the most beautiful goldfish in its pond! Lesley, if you are to come to arizona, it is not that far from Utah! I would be happy to meet you some day and help you to learn old songs by France Gall :) Before i leave: the new Smog album, Knock Knock, is absolutely fabulous. All the songs are great, and "Teenage Spaceship" is one of the greatest song ever. Just some little stories about life, love... just a little bit sadness to be overwhelmed by happiness That's it for today. Next time I will have to ask you something about... boamers. Love&Swings Philippe, one L, 2 P's PS : Lisa, I would love to swing on your swings too :) PPS : Kin, Posts (french and US) are against be these days... it's too bad that you didn't receive the tapes! I have a copy of the tapes i sent to you here, so I will send them again to you asap. I hope you don't get too mad at me (though you would have good reasons to...). I am really sorry. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". List WWW site back soon, I promise. +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Mon Mar 1 18:55:15 1999 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick * Sandcastle Records) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 13:55:15 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Woofkie, Woofkie, Wherefor Art Thou, Woofkie? Message-ID: <36DAE293.2FF440BA@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Hi List, Perhaps some of you are thinking "Hey, you posted twice in the same day! You're a dummy!" In fact, I would like to point out that I posted last night, but it didn't arrive until this afternoon. Maybe this one will arrive in the wee hours of tomorrow morning? Regardless, I didn't wait 24 hours, but I don't think that it's that strict. I posted "last night" and now I'm posting "today." On to other things... Says Robin Stout (quoting someone else): >When I interviewed him last week, Stuart David actually said that >the band had recorded five versions of Middle-Distance Runner, none >of which the whole band agreed on as being THE version - although >Stuart insisted that "the first take was the best thing we've ever >done" - so whether it will appear on the next single (EP?) is still >debatable, but Stuart confirmed that Loneliness, Paper Boat, and >Lord Anthony were the most likely tracklisting. I also saw that >someone posted something asking what the gubbins Winter Woofkie >means - apparently Woofkie is Stuart's nickname for Karn. HurrAH! Firstly I'd like to point out that if "Loneliness" will be on the next EP and "Middle-Distance Runner" is debatable, then evidently they've cut the song in two, and left out the bits "The," and "of a." I find it pleasing to note that Stuart M. shares my fervent admiration of the song, and I hope that will mean it will be the single, with the others being B-sides, and a video being made for Loneliness. This also explains why Struan decided to spontaneously add the song to the setlist in DC, a point which I was endlessly pleased about. Their live rendition of it resembled closely a version taped for me by the lovely Bob Dole. Well, I changed his/her name to protect the innocent from getting harrassed. Markedly different is the Beat Patrol session, which sounds more like a cross between "Slow Grafitti" and "The Boy with the Arab Strap." I do hope they go with the live rendition. Hm...Woofkie. That's a new one on me. But that could explain a lot. I'm hoping that the song lives up to its name, though. Perhaps it will extoll the virtues of pet names said while the snow is falling (falling, falling) and the ground sparkles and the trees are frosted white. It snowed here today, but it didn't stick, sadly. Today it would be "It's About Time for Spring Woofkie," or "I Want Some Warm Weather and I Want It Now Woofkie," or alternately "I Want Some Sweet Woofkie from You, Woman." Matthew Broszkowski wrote... > I'm not trying to drag people away from the mailing list, but I > thought that for people who find the list.... shall I say tedious and > a bit too controlled, it could be another outlet. The board is not > controlled in any way and yes, you can even swear! Shit, that must be nice. I liked "Soaky," basically only because he came up with the name "Soaky." Chris Mellan penned... > Also, for anyone living in glasgow, or west central scotland, did you > hear george bowie on the clyde 1 fm breakfast show last week. He made > a cruel jibe about b&s only being able to win awards which are voted > by the fans - what an irritating, pop music playing bastard. Really, that sounds like such a strange insult to me. "You can only win awards because loads of people like you a lot, so there!" Well, it's time for me to depart, and start the film processing anew. Ta-ta for now, boys and girls. /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick/Sandcastle Records <<->> bp224996 at ohiou.edu \ / Sandcastle Records Homepage: ICQ#5056758 | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | -Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". List WWW site back soon, I promise. +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Mon Mar 1 19:00:31 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 19:00:31 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: The Empire strikes back! Message-ID: Here we are all happy bunnies together again! I have missed you ,all of you,so much these two infinite weeks.My work has not been productive at all during these two weeks, I was totally stuck trying to check why my fantastic Fortran code to transform two electron integrals (appasionating issue, I know),till Sinister returns to my second window and verve came back to my poor , wasted brain cells.I fell from my horse, I saw the light, and eureka! My code is working properly.After several hours of hard searching, no miracles. We cannot submit Isobel Campbell's application to the Vatican to become saint, not yet! My 5-ive choices to initiation as Dave requested: 1)Expectations 2)Fox in the snow 3)Get me away I am dying 4)Sleep the clock around 5)The Loneliness of ... These are experimental , tested results. Or how my housemates came into B&S daily adoration/addiction. M-o-t-o-r-h-e-a-d???Here?Now?One of the best Sinister features is how unexpected and amazing it is , everyday.Sinister,don't change ever.SuppaHoney, please,don't allow it if it ever came to happen.Eran, I went to a Motorhead concert once, and I had just heard two songs from 'Ace...' before the experience,and in spite of this fact, truly enjoyed it.They are genuine,no pose,no marketing,no hype.As far from Gay Dad as you could dream. Are we an ugly crowd?(I am wandering) Maybe locals will rate the Bowlie Weekender as the reverse of Miss/Mr England election, Brighton seems a good place for those beauty-contests. Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". List WWW site back soon, I promise. +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tonyk at xxx.com Mon Mar 1 20:27:51 1999 From: tonyk at xxx.com (Kiewel, Tony) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 12:27:51 -0800 Subject: Sinister: a little bird told me Message-ID: I just thought I'd jump in after a terminally long silenceto let all you "absolutely must have everything B&S related" blokes and blokettes, that those Sub Pop kids are doing a a bunch of weird stuff around the new Looper full length. For starters they have very limited edition colored vinyl which can only be ordered direct from them. Then unless I'm mistaken they also send you the poster and enter you in a drawing to win an original sculpture by the lovely and charming Karn (of Looper.) Anyway, check out www.subpop.com for the deadlines and specifics. love and kisses, Tony K P.S. Is anyone else as in love with the Sam Prekop album as I am? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steve at xxx.uk Mon Mar 1 20:52:05 1999 From: steve at xxx.uk (Steve Genge) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 20:52:05 -0000 Subject: Sinister: loooooper in-store (friendly reminder) Message-ID: <005301be6425$74a524a0$8ee5989e@wphnvffu> Just a quick mention about the upcoming Looper in-store at Borders Books and Music, Brighton. the details: Sunday March 7 2pm Borders, Churchill Square Shopping Centre, Brighton for info, call (01273) 731122 there were 50 or so free 'tickets' made available, and these have all since gone. these tickets do NOT (as I had said in a previous post) guarantee a seat or anything, they just give our events coordinator an idea of how many people to expect. So ticket or no, If you want a seat or good view of anything, get there *early*. Generally, people tend to assemble for events anywhere from half an hour to an hour beforehand. (Borders opens at 11am on Sunday.) I will be there. Trying very hard not to address Karn as 'Woofkie.' And if there's any change in the ticket policy, I'll post about it as soon as I find out. up a tree, Amanda x x swanarama at hotmail.com "Pain and beauty, our constant bedfellows." Sabine Strohem steve at seahorses.demon.co.uk Red Roses For Me Fanzine http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Cabaret/9043 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atremp at xxx.be Mon Mar 1 21:03:58 1999 From: atremp at xxx.be (Annie Tremp) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 22:03:58 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: frost is coming... Message-ID: <199903012103.WAA12324@mach.vub.ac.be> hi everyone, there's been some talking on the list about edith frost so i thought i'd let you know she's playing at 'le botanique' in brussels on the 12th of march (not very sure about this date). if any of you went to see b&s over here in october, it's the same venue. if anyone is going, please let me know! hugs, annie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Mon Mar 1 22:35:03 1999 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake E. Hamilton) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 17:35:03 -0500 Subject: Sinister: And I doth choose... Message-ID: <004b01be6433$c001b680$ee941198@wfu.edu> My five that would be just dandy in the converting process-- in no order whatsoever-- 1. Belle and Sebastian 2. Me and the Major (yes, you read correctly) 3. Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying 4. Slow Graffitti (did I spell that right?) 5. The Boy With the Arab Strap runners up include--Seeing Other People, DD #2, and of course, the illustrious Simple Things. I am tired, off to a nap. I will dream of a photograph of myself... blake ~~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ "Sometimes I feel I gotta get away. Bells chime, I know I gotta get away. And I know if I don't I'll go out of my mind. Better leave her behind, where the kids are alright." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Mon Mar 1 22:59:51 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 17:59:51 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Grant Control To Major Dom! Message-ID: <199903011800_MC2-6C5A-70CF@compuserve.com> Hi Hunny Bunnies, I love Belle & Sebastian because they make beautiful music I love Jeepster because they bring us beautiful music I love Sinister because its a beautiful garden I love Honey because he tends the garden One of the hardest things in the world to bear is when two people you love each vie for your loyalty. Is that what's going on here? If so, then I don't want to be put in that position. I know that Jeepster's press release in the wake of Mr Waterman's Brits protests said that they embrace the internet, but is there a, erm, sinister, motive in them wanting to run a B&S mailing list under their aegis? We've just borne witness to the power such a grouping of fans can wield. I also feel for Honey, for whom the introduction of a rival list must feel just the tiniest slap in the face, after the undoubted contribution that the Sinister he has nurtured has made such a positive contribution to the band's and the label's fortunes. Don't get me wrong - I meant what I said in the beginning. Which is why I've run up mega phone bills at work and at home today trying to get tickets for the Looper gig that none of the ticket agencies have heard of yet, and which is why I fell gleefully on a promo copy of their (Looper's) album last week and haven't stopped playing it yet, because I think that Burning Flies & Ray Suzuki & Columbo's Car are brilliant (& all you kite-flying lovers get a look in too!), and I can't stand the waiting for the opportunity to see the rare magic of another B&S performance at Camber Sands in a few weeks time. (And I just ran out of breath!) I just don't want to have to make a choice :) David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From komis at xxx.edu Mon Mar 1 23:11:07 1999 From: komis at xxx.edu (Dmitry Komis) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 17:11:07 -0600 Subject: Sinister: ease myself into a bodybag... In-Reply-To: <278dc165.36dab6d1@aol.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990301171107.007d8480@students.uiuc.edu> At 10:48 AM 3/1/99 EST, you wrote: > Ok my next question is since Im a Movie freak and im sure theres others on >the list. Who do you Think is gonna Win The Oascers? and who do You want to >win? I think Saving Private ryan and and Shakspear in love will sweep. I'm >campaigning for Saving Private Ryan,The Thin Red line and Life Is >Beatiful....actually they were all great! thank god there were no stupid >Titanic/Braveheart cheesy epics(no offense to anyone who likes thoese movies) >this year. sadly, i think saving private ryan will win, although life is beautiful truly deserves the award. i just hope gwenyth doesn't win the best actress award. she doesn't deserve the hype. the oscars always seem to piss me off, so maybe i wont even watch this year. oh, and here's my list, i couldn't resist: 1) dog on wheels 2) beautiful 3) fox in the snow 4) paper boat 5) slow graffiti zigg^Y* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From whatev at xxx.com Mon Mar 1 00:01:34 1999 From: whatev at xxx.com (Steven) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 19:01:34 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Torso Message-ID: <003501be6376$c685c9a0$e4dbb4cf@en.en.com> Hello all, I figured I could come out of lurking mode to bring you all the following exciting news. You see, I work in the local gay porno shop, and the other day I was looking through the new issue of Torso(it's in the job description in case you were wondering) and what do you think I saw? (please don't answer that). There was a write up about our favorite group of lovelies. I've printed it below since I figure most of you aren't subscribers. I wanna know which of you works for them. You all thought b&s were gonna get noticed after winning that brit thingy, but the true mark of having made it is to be written about in the gay porn mags! "The Boy With the Arab Strap Belle & Sebastian These are the most charming of Scottish youngsters making sincere and beautiful music for all. The most amazing thing about this band is perhaps their ability to inspire an almost religious devotion in their fans. I saw this ensemble at the Supper Club in NYC performing to a sold-out audience and even the straight guys were swooning. I have yet to hear a single critic sound a harsh word against their music, yet to meet the listener not immediately enchanted,. This is their third full length album and it is as brilliant as the first two. Perfect Pop. Torso readers should also appreciate the reference to the "arab strap"- a fine sex toy indeed." There is also a pretty good sized picture the arab strap cover. thanks, Steven the boy who sells arab straps +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Mar 2 13:40:45 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 14:40:45 +0100 Subject: Sinister: No Sex Please, We're Brits Winners! Message-ID: <01be64b2$45e2cb80$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Dear fellow garden gnomes, It's splendid to be back, trampling the flower beds and burning ants with a magnifying glass, just like the good old days. To be honest, I think of Sinister as more of a park than a garden, complete with rather unappealing public conveniences. Consolidated Fanbase? That sounds to me like the kind of thing Norman Wisdom and Mister Grimsdale used to pit their wits against. Honey, has anyone been smashing your milk bottles? I suggest you dress up as a vicar and pay a visit to the golf course. Thank you Christopher for your kind words. I'm sure Sleeka Sounds is a fantastic pop group. In answer to your question, the only autobiographical part comes in chapter six, "Reptilian Bumhole", when Detective D. Dinkle is invited to a chimps' tea party at the zoo. I don't want to give too much of the plot away, but it turns out to be a typically mischievious bit of monkey business - the chimpanzees hold Detective D. Dinkle down while a horrible hairy orangutan fists him up the bum and an elephant simultaneously wanks him off with his elephant's trunk. Is that the kind of thing that won't be tolerated on the Jeepster unmoderated discussion list? What about if I change "horrible hairy orangutan" to "horrible hairy Murdoch" and "an elephant" to "Richard the drummer"? Seeing as Brad seems determined to ignore the constant squawking of the poetry parrot,, I thought I'd take the liberty of drawing the list's attention to a little-known story by Edgar Allan Poe - "The Brit of the Perverse". It is remarkably insightful for 1842: "One day, while sauntering listlessly about the streets, I arrested myself in the act of murmering, half aloud, these customary syllables. In a fit of petulance at my indiscretion, I remodeled them thus:- "I am safe - I am safe - yes, if I do not prove fool enough to make open confession." .....jumping ahead a bit.... "I turned - I gasped for breath. For a moment I experienced all the pangs of suffocation - I became blind, and deaf, and giddy - and at this instant it was no mortal hand, I knew, that struck me violently with a broad and massive palm upon the back. At that blow the long imprisoned secret burst forth from my soul. They say that I spoke with distinct enunciation, but with emphasis and passionate hurry, as if in dread of interruption before concluding the brief but pregnant sentences that consigned me to Dr. Peter Waterman, Her Majesty's Popologist, and to Hell." Next week, another visionary classic by Poe - "The Tell -Tale Brit", in which a mysterious trophy repeatedly bellows "Behave!" in a northern accent, despite Mad Dog Murdoch having put it in his socks and pants drawer, and "The Brit Cat", with its terrifyingly timeless ending, " I had walled the trophy up within the tomb!" Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NeilD at xxx.uk Tue Mar 2 14:32:26 1999 From: NeilD at xxx.uk (Neil Dewhurst) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 14:32:26 -0000 Subject: FW: Sinister: Back in the groove again Message-ID: <704AE307AB53D2119EE300805F7DF7551117DF@NCMSERVER> Ooh, its just like the war innit? Everyone gettin' together in a crisis. Now we're back on our feet again we can rebuild our brave new sinister world. And as I surface from my own Anderson shelter, and smell the air, regarding the rubble left by the fallout from the Brit Wars, the air somehow seems even sweeter than it did before. Pete the waterman is vanquished, and Steps - who ought to have won because they've sold lots of records, and because Lee from the band has never heard of his conquerors, and even though the Waterman thought that it was great that someone so "left" (ironic choice of words, Pete) could win the award - have been defeated, and will have to content themselves with having two out of the top ten requests on The Box (more commonly known as The Worst Music Channel in The World Ever(tm) (and that includes Country Music Television.) As an aside, does anyone out there agree with my girlfriend that Dirty Dream sounds kind of like a speeded up Like Dylan in The Movies? No? OK then. Regards to all, especially that Honey person. Neil +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Tue Mar 2 15:38:57 1999 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 07:38:57 -0800 Subject: Sinister: The lemmings and the weeds In-Reply-To: <01be64b2$45e2cb80$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990302073857.0084c790@mail.hooked.net> yah. if you're going vicar, might as well toss on the tutu as well... The most interesting thing about the net is that no matter how much the portals and corporate schmoes try to corral folks, the non-lemmings out there will form their own groups. Sinister formed (outside of Honey's deific wisdom and effort) due to like-minded folks with real personalities converging through chance and personal input. Talent tends towards not being herded against its will. One would think that it is wise not to spurn the groups that form on their own accord... That is not to say that another more corporately sponsored list is not in order. We all admire Jeepster for supporting excellent music and they deserve the payoff for their work. Their list has its own value in being very focused, informative and accessible to the B&S newbie, as well as a forum for growing more mainstream interest (ie. $$ for Jeepster). However, corporately planned communities have seemed to lack the spirit of more organic groups. Enough rambling. All hail Sinister! The weed in the crack of the corporate sidewalks of yesteryear! All hail Jeepster! The farmer that treasures the weeds as much as his crops! senor droolcup <- only arming his friends At 02:40 PM 3/2/99 +0100, PJMiller wrote: >Consolidated Fanbase? That sounds to me like the kind of thing Norman >Wisdom and Mister Grimsdale used to pit their wits against. Honey, has >anyone been smashing your milk bottles? I suggest you dress up as a >vicar and pay a visit to the golf course. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trarvild at xxx.se Tue Mar 2 15:53:05 1999 From: trarvild at xxx.se (Katarina Karlsson) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 16:53:05 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199903021556.QAA12657@mb06.swip.net> HHhhmmm Now I'm happy and warm all the way down to my toes. Today when I came home and saw that I had Sinister mails again I realised how much it means for me. I think I maybee like sinister more than I like Belle and sebastian music so I'm going to make me a sinister t-shirt. I allready have one Belle and sebastian. My mother is studying English so I made a B&S tape for her. I think good mother starting music is: Belle and Sebastian Me and the Major Expectations The fox in the snow A century of Elvis (!!!!!!! Yes it is good!!) Now my mother wanted the most typical Belle and Sebastian song to play for her english group on a lesson. Which is the most typical Belle and Sebastian song?? I had no reason to play with the computor every day last week and now my best friend, who is in Brighton, have mailed me asking if I'm ill because she havn't heard frome me in some days now so I shall write to her now and explain why. Katta +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pamelab at xxx.com Tue Mar 2 15:35:26 1999 From: pamelab at xxx.com (pamela berry) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 15:35:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: and I want you for all time Message-ID: <36DC053E.1303416F@mcmail.com> hi everyone, in giving friday night's poetry cafe social scoop, I think our roving reporters may have neglected to mention the end of chris' absolutely ace set, when timothy e. hopkins ("e" for emmylou, not everyone knows that) joined mr. leonard for a knee-buckling rendition of streets of baltimore, with beauteous harmonies and all. yowza. that was just before steady mike o. jones ("o" for oh-go-ahead-twist-my-arm-I'll-sing-it-too) called out a request for wichita lineman, then as if by magic was suddenly up there crooning with chris and timmylou. great, great stuff. I remember tim and mike both saying they'd be extremely pleased if I mentioned it. or was that displeased? oh I do tend to forget the smaller details when I'm a bit schwacked on pricey poetry cafe beer. lesley jo, you should really get your hands on as much free design stuff as you can (roundabout mail order in dc carries both siesta releases on cd or double ten-inch vinyl, mmm). they have a catalog of the wackest covers ever, their originals are always a bit bizarre in the best of ways, they sing about ouija boards, friendly men, jesus and bubblegum with plenty of gusto, and they have that spine-tingling family members singing together thing going for them, just like the everly brothers did. just like nelson didn't. say what you want about that nick drake documentary, but it was well worth it to me to hear that old recording of nick's mom singing, she sounded just like a female nick drake. spooky. I wonder if they ever sang together standing around in the kitchen cooking dinner, passing the time. for someone who rarely posts but was inspired by the great sinister comeback to do so, I've rambled on quite long enough. I'm raising a glass to honey even as I type this for all the work involved, it's good to be lurking among friends again! pam +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Tue Mar 2 15:50:45 1999 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 15:50:45 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Rock'n'Roll Part 2 Message-ID: So here it is, the all new Sinister list stomping up and down in spangly pants like an even less respectable version of Gary Glitter and singing "Hello Hello It's Good to be Back." And did we miss you? Yeah! But wait, what's this? The Jeepster belleandsebastian discussion list? Where did that come from, and more importantly, WHY? When Mick and friends set up a separate mailing list for discussing unreleased recordings of Bob Wratten farting no one really minded, and when Brad set up a list for people to be scary and swear at each other that was OK too... But when someone who has been on the list since it first started sets up a new mailing list for the discussion of Belle and Sebastian it is hard to see how that can be anything other than a bad bad thing for Sinister, and a slap in the face for all the people on Sinister who voted for Belle and Sebastian in the Brits. "Thanks for voting, now fuck off" is the message that I'm getting. I'm sure all will be explained in due course, it's just a bit puzzling at the moment. Almost as puzzling was Chris Leonard's performance at the Poetry Cafe on friday. It was as if some bloke you are used to seeing lurching around the town centre shouting random obscenities at passers by suddenly produced a guitar and turned out to be a fucking genius. I'm not saying that Chris usually lurches around town centres shouting random obscenities at passers by, but then I wouldn't like to say that he doesn't either. Kevan The Fat Slug *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mazzy_ana at xxx.com Tue Mar 2 16:07:54 1999 From: mazzy_ana at xxx.com (ana simic) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 16:07:54 GMT Subject: Sinister: weather, books and co. Message-ID: <19990302160755.29072.qmail@hotmail.com> hello listees!! if anyone is interested, MAYFLY is still my favorite spring-is-just-about-to-come song (and happiely, I'm not 'lovesick on a sunny afternoon' any more, but only incredibly happy&smiley...:)))) we've got +15C here in Vienna (huray!!!) and everyone is just freaking out cause of that........it's funny to think that we all have actually survived the f*** 5 months of cold and winter. Gosh!!! No wonder I started losing my mind.... Something more sunny&funny: If anyone has heard of or even read the book by Helen Fielding 'Brigdet Jones' Diary', I'm just saying : HELLOOO!!! Get it, read it and laugh your mouth off!!! It's hillarious!!!! smiley and happy-to-have-the-list-back-in-her-life *Ana* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amp0010 at xxx.edu Tue Mar 2 17:38:43 1999 From: amp0010 at xxx.edu (Amanda Marie Pintye) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 11:38:43 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: oh dear, i've started talking.. Message-ID: look at the new jeepster b&s list this way- "all the brand spanking new fans who we were complaining about having to associate with can now go elsewhere." jeepster is kindly keeping the garden from being overrun. :) ta -manda "the bright side of life" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Tue Mar 2 17:38:16 1999 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Fluffy Sarah) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 17:38:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: It coulda been a brilliant pint of beer In-Reply-To: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22486351@server1.HITEntertainment.com> References: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22486351@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Message-ID: <1w3VrDAIIC32Ew8t@elsato97.demon.co.uk> Hello! I want to VIRTUAL SHOP!!! I just went to Action records site - its not enough that I am at college just round the corner from it, I have to browse there while I am at home, and ooh theres all lots of things I want to buy! I put them in my Shopping Trolley and then it asked me for a credit card and I went....bugger. I could make one up though. Who am I kidding I don't even know how many numbers there should BE in a credit card number. Chris Leonard was great at the Po Caff! Actually I wasn't there, but everybody else said he was topper so I will as well. I'm sure he was! Did you wear a top hat chris? I've just decided that I LIKE TOP HATS in Pop music and if Belle and Sebastian don't ALL wear top hats then I'm going to dump them for Freedesign. bonjour Philippe! Um...welcome back de la liste de sinister.... oh SOD IT I've forgotten all my french. I've been brainwashed by Spanish. Today we talked about prostitutes who have their own butlers. Ahh endless hours of quality stories can be found on EL PAIS online... not that I understand any of them, cos they're in Spanish. But I KNOW the prostitutas con maydomo IS what I say IT IS SO THERE! Woofkie? Stuart David is SUCH a freak. But we aren't we are completely cool and good looking and well fit. Everyone else is just JEALOUS of us cos we emmanate sex appeal. Doh. Oh golly! It's Looper in 8 days isn't it! Bonkers! AH shit! That means its my Spanish day at Manchester University in 8 days!!!! Eeeep!!!! Ah well... I have considered and found that the trick in languages is to speak really quickly, so they can't tell if you fuck up your genders and crap like that. I don't like that subjunctive by the way. It gets in the way. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Candarel http://www.elsato97.demon.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From L.Kerr at xxx.uk Tue Mar 2 17:37:44 1999 From: L.Kerr at xxx.uk (L. Kerr) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 17:37:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Robin Williamson's natural son Message-ID: Hi I am glad Chris was good in the Po Caff...I was biting my nails, scared he would be crap, then I would have to stop being his friend. Of course, I have heard his CD, so I should have been reassured. I believe he is performing again on Monday 8th in Strathclyde Uni..? It is nice to have sinister back, even if I do say so myself :) I heard on the radio this morning that the Bowlie event is "kind of retro" oraginsed by "that band Belle and Sebastian". Still not well-known enough to escape a qualifier, even on Radio Scotland. Linda xx (PS if Susannah is on the list and listening, could she mail me? Ta.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Tue Mar 2 19:11:21 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 14:11:21 EST Subject: Sinister: my mother's tape (the final tally) Message-ID: <9e5ece4.36dc37d9@aol.com> oh look. I'm tired of waiting here, so I call the discussion over. the top five songs for mom are! 5: space boy dream/paper boat 4: Sleep the Clock Around/Brilliant career(tied) 3: Dog on Wheels tied with Fox in the Snow 2: Judy and the dream of horses/ slow graffiti (tied) 1: Get me away from here, I have a sick headache... i decided to up the amount, so I'll include all those songs. five is not enough. my mom said she'll write a letter to the list in a while, after she hears the songs dave i saw placebo last night. very good. and an excellent light show +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jeanette at xxx.com Tue Mar 2 14:17:19 1999 From: jeanette at xxx.com (Jeanette) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 14:17:19 +0000 Subject: Sinister: When I get stuck in the lift it's always with a toff... Message-ID: <36DBF2DC.3F10@ktc.com> (Honey, are you going to let me get away with this?) Ever felt like an outsider in a world run by rude people with no heart... no soul? Never really been accepted by the "in" crowd? Your ideas, your tastes are a little different than everyone else's, right? I suspect most B&S fans have a lot of these things in common. Too sensitive. Does "being here first" entitle you to treat newcomers the same way you've been treated in the past? I suppose so. And I suppose it makes you feel really good about yourselves to have someone to look down upon. More power to you, I say! I'm sure you've succeeded in chasing away plenty of the "new fans." Congratulations! Belle & Sebastian would be so proud! I've met some wonderful people through this list, and I treasure their friendship. But you elitists can choke on the weeds in your little garden for all I care. jeanette <> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pgarnier at xxx.edu Tue Mar 2 20:19:38 1999 From: pgarnier at xxx.edu (Philippe Garnier) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 13:19:38 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Oh get me away from here... Message-ID: <36DC47D6.A5ED9B1C@hnu.pharm.utah.edu> Hello funcky bunnies, I'm glad you all post your favourite belle and sebastian lists. I really like it! Well, not really... in fact I think I have a problem with the concept of doing lists. I have my own kind of list. I called the Bloody Hot List. It is just a 56 pages list of all the CD's I should buy right now! When i remove an item from my BHL, I had 5 new one at the same time. I hate lists. I need you help. Three weeks ago I gave The Boy With The Arab Strap to a girl I like very much. I am so eager to know what she thinks about this music! She have never heard about Belle and Sebastian! What really makes me crazy is that she has not listened the CD yet. 3 long weeks, and she has not listened to it! I'm dying... Oh kids, i need some help. What can I do? Of course i could attach her to the chair and play belle and sebastian, what I am not this kind of boy... I'm in a mess. We have a new guy in the lab. He is from Scotland (yep, a real one, from Dundee), and his name is Philip, which is really disturbing for me. The regular one L, but just one P. Poor boy... maybe I should lend him one of my P's sometimes. Does any scotish listee know him? dave wrote : > i saw placebo last night. very good. and an excellent light show Well done Dave. One of the most wicked comment ever posted to Sinister. I always think that the sinisterees are all sweet, nice and innocent. But it is actually more exciting to believe that some of us are real dumb, that a few of us are sexual maniacs or even worse. Kids are so violent sometimes... Love, Philippe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Tue Mar 2 21:57:30 1999 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 21:57:30 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: When I get stuck in the lift it's always with a toff... In-Reply-To: <36DBF2DC.3F10@ktc.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, Jeanette wrote: > > I've met some wonderful people through this list, and I treasure their > friendship. But you elitists can choke on the weeds in your little > garden for all I care. I know, I know, we're not supposed to talk about the list on the list. But this really got to me. I guess i count as one of the old-timers round here - after all, I was here last time the list changed address as well - but I don't think anyone who knows me would describe me as elitist. And of all the people I've met from the list (quite a lot now) none struck me as such. So all I want to say, and I'm sure I speak for pretty much everyone here (that makes me sound really arrogant saying that, but I can't think of a better way of putting it), is that everyone is welcome here, old or new. Don't get put off. The thing I like most about Sinister is that I can imagine that everyone here is the sweetest person alive, and that I would instantly like everyone of you I met; and to date I've never been proved wrong. To all the newbies out there (and everyone else for that matter), join the club, it's good to have you along. After all, we don't want you to feel the need to defect to any other discussion lists do we? Big Stu PS Any replies to me, not the list please! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk Tue Mar 2 23:35:21 1999 From: pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk (Pamela Hutchinson) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 23:35:21 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Guilty admission Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From k.watson at xxx.uk Tue Mar 2 20:31:50 1999 From: k.watson at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 20:31:50 -0000 Subject: Sinister: When I get stuck in the lift it's always with a toff... Message-ID: <01BE64EB.B40A0400.k.watson@cableinet.co.uk> >Does "being here first" entitle you to treat newcomers the same way >you've been treated in the past? I suppose so. And I suppose it makes >you feel really good about yourselves to have someone to look down upon. >More power to you, I say! I'm sure you've succeeded in chasing away >plenty of the "new fans." Congratulations! Belle & Sebastian would be so >proud! No, fucking right it doesn't entitle anyone to anything. I'd have hoped we were past all this stuff but I suppose it's evidently not the case. Maybe it never will be, but if you're new on this list, then rest assured that no-one will have a go at you, as there are plenty of us here who've been on the list since the very beginning and won't put up with that sort of behaviour. Anyway, I hope a load of new people do join the list, and hope they enjoy it too. We've all had a bloody good laugh for ages and the more the merrier. God forbid us lot ever wind up like the majority of manics fans seem to be. Although I doubt that would be the case, cause even the "old" fans here are a load of pissed up beer monsters. Kevan wrote : >But when someone who has been on the list since it first started sets >up a new mailing list for the discussion of Belle and Sebastian it is >hard to see how that can be anything other than a bad bad thing for >Sinister, and a slap in the face for all the people on Sinister who >voted for Belle and Sebastian in the Brits. >"Thanks for voting, now fuck off" is the message that I'm getting. >I'm sure all will be explained in due course, it's just a bit puzzling >at the moment. Yeah, seems that way doesn't it. Or indeed "Thanks for all the time you put in that ultimately benefits us, now fuck off". Bit odd that there are two lists as well, seen as no-one's allowed to create a new web site that contains duplicate information. Oh well, things are changing now. I suppose it was bound to happen. However. On this list we are a bunch of people who are united simply by the act of *being friends*. We aren't trying to sell things to each other, we aren't trying to publicize things (apart from Dr.CB Stride and his real indie night), and we will continue to enjoy ourselves I don't doubt. Take care, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pgarnier at xxx.edu Wed Mar 3 00:36:51 1999 From: pgarnier at xxx.edu (Philippe Garnier) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 17:36:51 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Let's get fucked... in peace References: <01BE64EB.B40A0400.k.watson@cableinet.co.uk> Message-ID: <36DC841D.A82A9DE8@hnu.pharm.utah.edu> Hi again, I know, two posts in the same day is far too much, but I am driving in my cadillac, sun's shining, Stuart's singing Lazy Line Painter Jane on the seat next to me and Isobel is dancing frantically on the back....err no need to get off your shirt Bel! Keith replied to Kevan : > > >"Thanks for voting, now fuck off" is the message that I'm getting. > >I'm sure all will be explained in due course, it's just a bit puzzling > >at the moment. > > Yeah, seems that way doesn't it. Or indeed "Thanks for all the time you put > in that ultimately benefits us, now fuck off". Bit odd that there are two > lists as well, seen as no-one's allowed to create a new web site that > contains duplicate information. Oh well, things are changing now. I suppose > it was bound to happen. > I don't 100% agree with this "fuck off" stuff. I totally agree that this new Jeenipster list is not fair-play, but for me it remains hard to believe they people from Jeepster did that 'against' Sinister or just because they would like to keep the benefits for them. Maybe i am naive... I hope not. Nevertheless, it would be stupid to start a list vs list fight. Let's try to do our best to make this list even more friendly, funny, crazy, sexy... and don't forget to thank Honey from time to time. Oh shit, I sound like an bishop delivering a "we are al' siste'z an' brozer'z" bad old speech. Shut up Philippe ! I hate you! Philippe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Wed Mar 3 01:00:07 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 01:00:07 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: When I get stuck in the lift it's always with a toff... In-Reply-To: <01BE64EB.B40A0400.k.watson@cableinet.co.uk> Message-ID: Jeanette said: > Does "being here first" entitle you to treat newcomers the same way > you've been treated in the past? I don't think I need to add much to what's been said, but because I like tucking everyone's blankets down and snuggling them in safely, because you all do it for me so well, I will. Just - like has been said already, let's make it clear again that this list is for everyone on it, and not just grandpa at the back. We've been through this sort of loop before, with people seeing elitism where it's doubtful it exists, and I think it's an understandable reaction to seeing it elsewhere on the Net. Hey, I haven't got an original Tigermilk (I sometimes lick Keith's), nor do I have a lock of Mick Cooke's hair in a locket round my neck, try as I might to get at him with my secret service pen-knife when he isn't looking. I honestly think, Jeanette, if you look through the history of this list, you'll see scorn and laughter (gently) heaped on elitism. It just isn't what we do here, and that's down to the fluffy bunnies here already, thankfully. And I honestly don't think Amanda, who I don't know, meant to be elitist at all - I'm sure she's as fluffy as the rest of us. I took it as a little joke, and I'm sure that was the meaning. Things look harsh in courier font sometimes. What looks large from a distance, close up ain't really that big. So let's not dwell on it. Oh and for anyone who didn't realise, the Sinister WWW site is back and looking as healthy as it can, bearing in mind it was written by someone who of necessity treats HTML as an artform *primitif*. It's at: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister And remember folks: it's wrong to wish on space hardware. Guess who I went to see tonight. honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bellequasi at xxx.com Wed Mar 3 01:14:16 1999 From: Bellequasi at xxx.com (Bellequasi at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 20:14:16 EST Subject: Sinister: looking for someone...help! Message-ID: my friend gave me his screen name but i only remember the first part of it. this part is mod__?_ i don't the rest. does anyone know a way to find a list of all the screen names that start out that way or do any of you know any people w/ this same screen name beginning. Please help! i'm quite desperate and i don't want to call him. kristie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aszolnoki at xxx.com Wed Mar 3 10:34:48 1999 From: aszolnoki at xxx.com (Andras Zalan Szolnoki) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 02:34:48 PST Subject: Sinister: Take two:I've had my very first B&S dream! Message-ID: <19990303103449.25701.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello Everyone ! (EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!:-))))))))))))))) This feel pretty odd.You see I've posted a letter quite similar to this one, only that other letter was sent to the "old" address. I hope it doesn't get sent to Sinister.Anyway, as I was saying: I had my very first B&S dream a couple of nights ago. I've read about them a lot on and I was starting to feel as a bit of an outsider, by not having one of my very own. Not owning a genuine copy of Tigermilk and , so far, not having been able to see them live doesn't make it easier. But that's all forgotten now! Because I've have had a Belle dream, and in my dream The Belle Band played belle music and Nick Drake made a guest appearance. What else could you possibly whish to dream about???????? ....playing with The Bellesters would be a good one. As a result I've ordered a small collection of Jeepster vinyls, and sold out 7" on cd.Soon I'll have Looper.........and some Gentle Waves......,and less money to drink and buy records for. And I really need some cash. I have a 'Enga-Cheaallsii mach I have to buy tickets for on friday. How do you say pronounce Cheaallsii in Italian?? Oh, by the way....David.....David..my records are coming soon,right? I've must say I'm pretty jealous of the people who are going to this Bowling-Festival. I must say I'm not sure why B&S would play at some bowling hall, though. I hate bowling. Unless you can drink and listen to good music. But still it's boring. B&S should come to the Roskilde Festival!!!!!!!!!! They really should! The world's greatest festival with the world's best band. It's logical. What is not logical is why we are having a blizzard.Why? It's been snowing all day long. Well it's time for me to get back to some serious phonemic-transcriptions. Ciao! Andras-the boy in the snow ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mireiamenchon at xxx.com Wed Mar 3 10:39:55 1999 From: mireiamenchon at xxx.com (Mireia Menchon) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 02:39:55 PST Subject: Sinister: Paris help me! Message-ID: <19990303103956.16490.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello sinister puppies... I've missed you these days and I needed some advice that I could only ask here. Any listees in Paris????? I need some info. Could you please tell me what are the nicest clubs ( I don't want to end up in any salsa place), good record stores... anything!!!! I'm only going to be there a week and I want to make the most of it. Also if there are going to be any interesting gigs during this next week ( from this same Fri to the next). Thank you in advance!!!!! Bye... Mireia Sad because I'm not going to the festival...Will you take some pictures so I can cry????? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mrsmurdoch at xxx.com Wed Mar 3 12:42:55 1999 From: mrsmurdoch at xxx.com (Mrs Murdoch) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 04:42:55 PST Subject: Sinister: A lesson from the Bible Message-ID: <19990303124256.498.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello, it's Mrs. Murdoch here, Stuart's mum. It's been an unusual couple of weeks for us here in the Murdoch household. There was a picture of Stuart in the Troon herald last week, and lots of people have been phoning me up to congratulate me on my Brit Award winning eggs. I say it's not my doing at all, we just happen to have a Brit Award winning postman. I feel like I'm a bit of a celebrity myself, and spend an hour doing my hair and make up before heading down to the Co-op for Stuart's fish cakes. This week I've been reminded of the Bible parable, Hamish the Frog. I have typed it below, and hope you all read it carefully. Love, Mrs. Murdoch Hamish the Frog ================ Once upon a time there was a little frog called Hamish. Hamish was the pond hero because he could leap higher and further than all of the other frogs put together! In fact, he could even leap the whole pond in one single bound! One day a Kingfisher spotted Hamish leaping the pond and was astounded! "Gosh", he thought, "that's the most incredible sight I've ever seen! I know a lot of people that would like to see this. I wonder if Hamish would make a deal with me, that If I get lots of people to come and see him leap, we could charge them a pound each and split the money". The Kingfisher suggested the idea to Hamish. Hamish agreed, because he was skint, and didn't have anything better to do. The Kingfisher worked hard and gathered a huge crowd to see Hamish leap. The crowd were astounded, and happy to pay the pound charge. One member in the crowd, a little goldfish, had a great idea. "Kingfisher, Hamish is an amazing leaper to be sure. But it would be better if he had a wonderful obstacle to leap over, wouldn't it?". The Kingfisher agreed, so the little goldfish worked for three months solid making the bestest most lovliest obstacle any frog has ever leapt over . And the goldfish did it for nothing, because she wanted to, because she thought Hamish the frog was brilliant. The Kingfisher arranged another show, advertising the fact that Hamish was going to leap over the amazing obstacle the little goldfish had constructed. This time the Kingfisher decided to charge everybody two pounds. The crowd loved this show, and word spread of Hamish and the incredible obstacle all over the whole country. The next time that Hamish leapt over the obstacle the Kingfisher charged three pounds. And so on and so on until the Kingfisher was charging a ten pound spectator fee. And people paid it, because it was worth it. The little goldfish still paid her ten pounds like everyone else, even though it was her obstacle that was helping draw the crowds in. The goldfish did it because she wanted to, because she thought Hamish the frog was brilliant. And she was making a lot of friends as they went along, as was Hamish. One happy day Hamish won the Frog of the Year award for his leaping power. This meant that everyone in the world had heard of Hamish, and wanted to see him leaping over the obstacle. Some of the other frogs in the competition were jealous though, and said that Hamish only won because the obstacle was so grand. Which was partly true, but the award and the potential earnings that the Kingfisher could make blinded him to the fact. "Of course the obstacle had nothing to do with Hamish's success in the Frog of the Year competition", he said in a press release, "Hamish won because he is great". To prove the point that the obstacle had nothing to do with it, the Kingfisher put the little goldfishes obstacle in the bin, and made one himself. This upset the little goldfish very much, because he loved to see Hamish leap over it. And the sad fact is, the Kingfisher's obstacle wasn't as good as the little goldfishes. The people who had seen Hamish leaping over the old obstacle said to the Kingfisher, "Kingfisher, why don't you bring the goldfishes obstacle back and bin the new one, it's very nice but just not as good." Even Hamish asked the Kingfisher if he could leap over the old obstacle again. The Kingfisher didn't hear them though because new people were coming to see Hamish leap, who had never seen the old obstacle to know any better. He told the goldfish "you never made a difference to Hamish's success. Why don't you just get lost and stop annoying me". The Kingfisher was now charging people 20 pounds to see Hamish leap. And then a sad thing happened. As Hamish had become more and more successful the goldfish had been there. All the people who had become friends with Hamish had also become friends with the goldfish. They decided they wouldn't go and see Hamish leap anymore because they didn't want to pay the greedy Kingfisher money. Which was sad because it meant that Hamish didn't see any of his old friends who had supported him as his popularity grew. He began to feel lonely. Eventually Hamish got sick of leaping over the shoddy obstacle. "Kingfisher", he said ,"I've had enough. I won't leap over that shoddy obstacle for you anymore. You've taken the fun out of my leaping, and none of my old friends are here, so I'm off". But the Kingfisher didn't care anyway because he'd made a lot of money. "I never needed you anyway", he told Hamish. Hamish went back to leaping over the pond like he used to do, and lived happily ever after amongst his friends. No-one really cares what happened to the Kingfisher. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Mar 3 15:39:24 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 16:39:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Jordi's Fanzine Fanfare Message-ID: <01be658c$04140400$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Fluffy wrote: >bonjour Philippe! Um...welcome back de la liste de sinister.... oh SOD >IT I've forgotten all my french. I've been brainwashed by Spanish. Today >we talked about prostitutes who have their own butlers. Ahh endless >hours of quality stories can be found on EL PAIS online... not that I >understand any of them, cos they're in Spanish. But I KNOW the >prostitutas con maydomo IS what I say IT IS SO THERE! Fluffy, I have the solution to your problems. First of all, if you click on the "tentaciones" part of El País, you'll find oodles and oodles of items of interst to groovy young people like ourselves, such as a lengthy interview with the guys out of Blur, and reviews of the latest records in the hit parade at home and abroad. They had B&S in once. If that is still not interesting enough for you, you could always try Jordi's excellent B&S fanzine, "Segundos de Luz", which I was lucky enough to receive a few days ago. It's in Spanish, so it would make an ideal exotic addition to any B&S fan's collection. For Sarah it doubles as an unbeatable opportunity to practise her Spanish. It contains the story of the band, song lyrics, interpretations of the song lyrics (lesbians in abundance!) and a review of Hefner. I just thought I'd mention it because Jordi seems reluctant to do so. While on the subject of all things Spanish, the inevitable has happened. I have seen Massiel's Eurovision winning performance on the telly. Not only was she wearing THAT dress, but she was doing a very spirited little dance at the same time. No wonder she beat poxy bloody Cliff Richard. I'm listening to the late great Dusty Springfield and crying into endless cups of tea. Something inside has died. Stop the clocks, etc. Peace be with you, Sister Disco of the Immaculate Conception PS: I think Paul went to see Kirsty McColl last night. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From S.Ludlam at xxx.com Wed Mar 3 15:13:25 1999 From: S.Ludlam at xxx.com (Simon Ludlam) Date: 03 Mar 99 15:13:25 +0000 Subject: Sinister: copey Message-ID: If any of you out there get the chance to catch Julian Cope on his mini tour 'The Modern Antiquarian', then please GO!! Went to see him last night at the Leeds Irish Centre giving a lecture on his book mainly about the roots of humankind and the relationship with Mother Earth. Plus a few psychedelic poems thrown in for good measure. Not the usual Copey stuff, but well worth the trip out...DON'T MISS OUT - BOOK NOW...see local press for details!! plug over, Simon x ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The views expressed in the EMail and files transmitted with it are those of the individual not the company. If you have recieved this EMail in error please notify. postmaster at pindar.com http://www.pindar.com ********************************************************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From noelani30 at xxx.com Wed Mar 3 16:38:32 1999 From: noelani30 at xxx.com (j noelani wright) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 08:38:32 PST Subject: Sinister: FWD: Advice (no B&S content) Message-ID: <19990303163832.29492.qmail@hotmail.com> for anyone who might be interested: > >Could you guys please forward this to your friends...... >thank you!! > > > > > > >IF YOU NEED ADVICE ON RELATIONSHIPS OR ANYTHING ELSE, PLEASE LOOK HERE: > >www.fini.net/~raven/jessica.html > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Wed Mar 3 17:14:12 1999 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 09:14:12 PST Subject: Sinister: you're nobody in this town Message-ID: <19990303171413.16524.qmail@hotmail.com> >No, fucking right it doesn't entitle anyone to anything. I'd have >hoped we >were past all this stuff but I suppose it's evidently not the case. Maybe >it never will be, but if you're new on this list, then rest assured that >no-one will have a go at you, as there are plenty of us here who've >been on >the list since the very beginning and won't put up with that sort of >behaviour. Ha! Unless you're a fucking idiot. I should know better than anyone. Do you understand the contradiction in saying "we're not entitled to have a go at you just 'cause we're senior" and then turning around and saying "we won't let anyone have a go at you 'cause we're senior"? Just checking. Is it wrong to fall in love only because you haven't in such a long time? Am I kissing my reflection? Every time I fall asleep with Nick Drake on the stereo someone in my family dies. It only happened once but I'm not gonna try it again. -Eran "Vienna is a city of cafes and waltzes. It is also a city that hates Jews." -Reb Yudel Krinsky ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From M223CMellan at xxx.uk Wed Mar 3 17:16:00 1999 From: M223CMellan at xxx.uk (M223CMellan) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 17:16:00 -0000 Subject: Sinister: trick tape Message-ID: <17173531204905@holyrood.gla.sch.uk> fellow listees, lords, and loopers (bunch of loopers) Firstly, does anyone know if looper are going to do any thing in glasgow? - they seem to have done gigs in every other town's banch of borders, which really sucks. GOOOEY - GUUUUEYYYY Har, har, har, oh, how I laughed today when I used my devious and cunning skills for the good of mankind - this girl who I like and am really good friends with was humming, as she always is, and I could tell that it was the new blur single. She said "oh, I love that song " and I said - "hey I've got the single (which I do- this is slightly scary) I'll get you a copy of it." The thing was she had previously said to me that after I let her listen to fox in the snow, she thought that it was really depressing, and she thought that b&s were boring. So sneaky me, I did tape the blur song, but I also taped my top 10 fave b&s songs, and songs of other non mainstream bands - this included quite a bit of folksy stuff, which she had laughed at before, because she said that it was like something out of the 60's. Then, I gave her the tape, and the next day she came in and said how she thought that some of the songs were really beautiful, and appologised for mocking me before (even if it was only lighthearted). I thought 'yaaaay! - I've converted someone, and she actually appreciates good music (she had said a coulple of weeks earlier that she thought steps were artistically commendable - she later told me that she'd been having a laugh and thought that it was hillarious that I was so gullible.) Ahhhh, so happy and warm, yet I'm still cold with the thought of waling home in the cold wind, as I'm e mailing you from supported study afterschool class - in computing- and I haven't done any work, but hey - I don't need to - I'm a genius. The higher exams are approaching steadilly and I need to get 5 A 's (I got 4A's and a B for my prelims, but I feel that anything less than an A is failure, so i'd better get the results or I shall be forced to live a life of shame.) Are any listees currently studying for their highers, or the english equivalent, A-levels? I need someone to share the boredom with. Finally - who is baby listee, and grandparent listee - the oldest and youngest listees? To start you off, I'm 16 - I believe that I am a possible contender for OAP listee. We shall speak again, don't know where, don't know when. Chris Mellan CRYSTALBALLS M223CMELLAN at holyrood.gla.sch.uk "I don't fit in with this world" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ussher at xxx.ca Wed Mar 3 17:40:37 1999 From: ussher at xxx.ca (allen) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:40:37 -0700 (MST) Subject: Sinister: Greetings!! Message-ID: Hi, everyone. I just joined the list recently and thought I'd post my first message! First of all, you all seem like nice folk and I'm starting to like getting all this new mail! :) A little about me, I'm 21 and live in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. (Go grab your atlases, everyone and have a look to find out where that is.) But I'm really from Edmonton, Alberta, which is a 3 hour drive north of Calgary. I'm working down here for a little while on an internship program. I'm in my 3rd year of Computer Engineering at the University of Alberta (tough stuff!). Anyway, I got into B&S a few months ago after seeing the video for Is It Wicked... and falling in love with the band. Lucky for me they had a special on Scottish bands that night and I just happened to tune in (I'm a huge fan of Teenage Fanclub and Cocteau Twins!). Well, I probably should get back to work now! Hope everyone has a great day! Bye. allen ussher -- "Long afloat on shipless oceans I did all my best to smile Till your singing eyes and fingers Drew me loving to your isle." -- Song to the Siren, Tim Buckley. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From WarranderJ at xxx.uk Wed Mar 3 17:20:29 1999 From: WarranderJ at xxx.uk (Warrander John - FML) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 17:20:29 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Ain't No Sun Since You've Been Gone Message-ID: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B0050F0E8@masslab1> Hello Folks, Peter Miller brought some distressing news to our attention... >I'm listening to the late great Dusty Springfield and crying into >endless cups of tea. Something inside has died. Stop the clocks, etc. This is so tragic. I went to the NME pages and read the details about Dusty's death after reading this and I'm really very, very saddened by it. Dusty was undoubtedly one of the greatest singers that ever graced this world and I suspect she was a pretty bloody fantastic person too. I think I'll go home and cry into my tea too now. That's all, Love...John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at Wed Mar 3 17:50:42 1999 From: Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at (Vanessa R. Siegl) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 18:50:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: hello In-Reply-To: <199903031035.DAA26302@turtle.esosoft.net> Message-ID: <27BC0C347C0@s06user2.uibk.ac.at> Nice to see Sinister back. It hasn't been gone for a long time luckily though. Not many news here, I have to agree with Ana though ti's nice to finally get a glimpse of Spring here ... all the snow on our terrace is gone and it was filled up to the top practically.. Gave a tape with Belle and Sebastian stuff to my best mate but I don't know yet whether he likes it or not love vanmxxx _____________________________________________________ Forgive me for I have not sinned csaa7950 at s06user2.uibk.ac.at ..or _gapminder at yahoo.com Http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/theater/1666 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Wed Mar 3 18:18:48 1999 From: johnj at xxx.com (JJ) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 18:18:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: nothing has been proved In-Reply-To: References: <01BE64EB.B40A0400.k.watson@cableinet.co.uk> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990303181848.007bb100@mail.u-net.com> PSM said: >And remember folks: it's wrong to wish on space hardware. Guess who >I went to see tonight. I think he went to see Billy Bragg. But what do I know. Alternative Nation showed the vid for Dirty Dream last night, and I saw it this time. Who's in it then? For those who haven't seen it yet, it's basically lots of people looking at the camera individually, and occasionally doing stuff like pouring milk over themselves. MTV didn't show the Looper one though so I haven't seen that. Who said they could cut it to an hour? Well, about 40 minutes if you cut out all the adverts and the incredibly long ads for Celebrity Deathmatch. Poor old Dusty. I was listening to something of hers on a Burt Bacharach 3cd thing the other day. JJ x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nickdastoor at xxx.com Wed Mar 3 19:37:59 1999 From: nickdastoor at xxx.com (Nick Dastoor) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 11:37:59 PST Subject: Sinister: The sacred and the profane Message-ID: <19990303193759.12804.qmail@hotmail.com> From: Honey >And I honestly don't think Amanda, who I don't know, meant to be >elitist at all - I'm sure she's as fluffy as the rest of us. I took >it as a little joke, and I'm sure that was the meaning. Things look >harsh in courier font sometimes. What looks large from a distance, >close up ain't really that big. So let's not dwell on it. Honey's not wrong about the Courier thing. It can be a terribly fierce font and repeated exposure has even been known to cause piles. However, do not despair of non-proportionality altogether. If your email package lets you change fonts, then I recommend you download Andale Mono (formerly known as monotype.com) from Microsoft (http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts). This way even the most dreadful rubbish looks beautiful. Why, only last week I was looking at some particularly noxious neo-nazi propaganda yet found myself filled with an enormous sense of inner peace. All because of Andale Mono. Enough of this Chris Leonard eulogising. I was there and he was rubbish. My cat's called Mittens. Nic ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atremp at xxx.be Wed Mar 3 20:35:18 1999 From: atremp at xxx.be (Annie Tremp) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 21:35:18 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: i had a dream Message-ID: <199903032035.VAA29338@mach.vub.ac.be> ...and a very strange one indeed. i know somebody already mentioned today that he had his first B&S dream but it happened to me too. and i just feel the urge to tell it to you. it started with me sitting on a bench in a park near my home feeling sad because my bedroom had dissapeared. then suddenly isobel appears from nowhere and sits down next to me, asking what is wrong. and i can't say a word and start crying (you know, when you're on the verge of tears and you can hold them back but as soon as someone talks to you, bam, you can't stop them anymore, only this is my dream of course, but that doesn't make any difference). then she starts singing a song that i don't know and stuart m just appears on the other side of the bench. he asks "shall we go?" and i nod. the next moment i'm in a room sitting on a chair and for some reason i just know that i'm in glasgow. isobel and stuart are gone but chris is sitting on the floor eating a milky way and stevie's in a corner looking at me like i'm a freak or something. sara comes in and she starts talking to me but i can't understand a thing, so she goes away. then stuart comes walking in and he's dressed in a yellow mailman suit and he's carrying a scrabble board (the way a waiter walks around with a tray of drinks, you know, in one hand). but he stumbles and all the letters fall from the board. i get down to pick them up and see they're all stuck together in words and i see the word 'elvis'. and then i wake up. i know this sounds like i made it up but that's really what i dreamt. i wanted to tell it to someone but none of my friends really know belle and sebastian (i'm working on it though) so thought i might as well send it you all. i like typing out 'belle and sebastian' in full, instead of B&S, it sounds (well, looks) nicer. i know that the name comes from a book that was made into a tv series but i'm sure that i saw a cartoon version of it when i was a little kid, did anyone else see it or am i being delusional? à bientôt, annie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Snowinsumr at xxx.com Wed Mar 3 20:50:28 1999 From: Snowinsumr at xxx.com (Snowinsumr at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 15:50:28 EST Subject: Sinister: "...is it wrong to wish on space hardware? i wish, i wish, i wish you'd care..." Message-ID: <20d977d2.36dda094@aol.com> dear "we're all pretentious in our own little way so let's just get along" diary... PSM said: >And remember folks: it's wrong to wish on space hardware. Guess who >I went to see tonight. i saw billy bragg at the ark last december...it was truly the best concert i've ever been to...ever... he has so much passion and so much life...he is a brilliant man...i don't know who opened though...because we snuck in right before billy began playing :::smacks her own hand for being naughty::: that is all... love, m.elise +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hushpad at xxx.net Thu Mar 4 01:06:57 1999 From: hushpad at xxx.net (Matthew) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 19:06:57 -0600 Subject: Sinister: !!!!! Message-ID: <199903040104.TAA10259@tremont.dpc.net> is no one going to mention the incredibly moving posting of mrs murdoch?!!! please, honey, anyone, say something! I've never posted before, I don't want to jump in and rant. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From r-jenkins at xxx.edu Thu Mar 4 01:16:54 1999 From: r-jenkins at xxx.edu (Rosemary) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 19:16:54 -0600 Subject: Sinister: the show In-Reply-To: <199903032035.VAA29338@mach.vub.ac.be> Message-ID: there definitely was a "belle and sebastian" animated show. i watched it when i was only knee high to grasshopper. annie, have no fear my dear. you are not delusional. on a separate note, i cajoled my boyfriend into playing MORE belle and sebastian on his radio show the other night. how lovely it was to hear those sweet scottish liltings in the jumble of rough and tumble punk. that's all for now. rosemary +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Arigreen23 at xxx.com Thu Mar 4 01:48:30 1999 From: Arigreen23 at xxx.com (Arigreen23 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 20:48:30 EST Subject: Sinister: the show...etc. Message-ID: <938b3a5d.36dde66e@aol.com> yes! i used to watch "belle and sebastian" allll the time as a wee lad! i believe it was on nickelodeon then. which of course makes it all the more interesting that i now listen to the band. everyone catch the "modern rock song" review in the last CMJ with kurt cobain on the cover? Also, anyone have the looper 7 inch and wanna trade? 2 more: anyone goin to the sleater- kinney/elliott smith/ ben folds five shows in philly? later... ari +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From escossia at xxx.br Thu Mar 4 02:13:23 1999 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 23:13:23 -0300 Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V3 #66 Message-ID: <01be65e4$94cc04e0$0100007f@localhost> Pamela Berry wrote: >lesley jo, you should really get your hands on as much free design stuff >as you can Free Design is GREAT. It reminds me Stereolab [sometimes Carpenters] without TONS of moogs and things like that. I am trying to get news about Hopkirk & Lee My god ! It's so hard to find something about them Any info will be welcome. Digest Version is BORING. It's so hard to read everything. Or .... Am i lazzzzzzzzzzzy ? Did i lost something very important about Belle et Sebastian ? Ivo A P Escossia "Everything is beautiful. Pop is everything." Andy Warhol NP: The Fall - A Sides +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From PaperSun23 at xxx.com Thu Mar 4 05:22:23 1999 From: PaperSun23 at xxx.com (PaperSun23 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 00:22:23 EST Subject: Sinister: the cartoon Message-ID: <46c01b8d.36de188f@aol.com> Just a quick response about the animated show, Belle & Sebastian.... It had this giant, fluffy, white, husky dog which I believe was Belle if my memory serves me well. Sebastian was the little boy. I used to watch it when I was seven or so. That's actually how I got into the band. I was the music director at my college radio station and just had to listen to the record (Sinister) when I saw the name! Good thing, too. Just imagine where I'd be if I hadn't. Obviously, it was the most magical record I'd heard come through that shoddy station. warmly nested in an early Byrds marathon, Moon Patroller Carrie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From asd2112 at xxx.net Thu Mar 4 07:09:24 1999 From: asd2112 at xxx.net (adam davidson) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 02:09:24 -0500 Subject: Sinister: oh mygod Message-ID: <36DE31A3.87691DBC@duesouth.net> http://www.hamsterdance.com very ,very silly . enjoy. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From asd2112 at xxx.net Thu Mar 4 07:41:25 1999 From: asd2112 at xxx.net (adam davidson) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 02:41:25 -0500 Subject: Sinister: can nick drake really kill from the beyond? References: <19990303171413.16524.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <36DE3925.1F59148F@duesouth.net> Corpora Arenacea wrote: Every time I fall asleep with Nick Drake on the stereo someone in my family dies. It only happened once but I'm not gonna try it again. does corpora not like his/her family? well in any case seems rather morbid to me. old subject but i thought of another decent american song writer. victoria williams. anyone out there listen to her. more than decent, execellent , i would have to say. oh and ben harper has been simply amazing i think. and on the whole subject of shitty music, all i can say is it has always been around but so has great music, if you know where to look. so turn off your radio(unless its college radio) and listen to your heart and the hearts of others. or perhaps in the words of the almost forgoten Neds Atomic Dust Bin: "KILL YOUR TELEVISION!". adam +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From asd2112 at xxx.net Thu Mar 4 08:36:27 1999 From: asd2112 at xxx.net (adam davidson) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 03:36:27 -0500 Subject: Sinister: too much Message-ID: <36DE460B.22A2373D@duesouth.net> wow , just realized i habve 400 messages stil to read. well dont think i will so hope there wasn't anytinng too earth shattering. okay that is all adam +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sclark at xxx.uk Thu Mar 4 09:50:59 1999 From: sclark at xxx.uk (sclark) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 09:50:59 +0000 Subject: Sinister: trick tape References: <17173531204905@holyrood.gla.sch.uk> Message-ID: <36DE5783.52FC@athene.co.uk> > > Finally - who is baby listee, and grandparent listee - the oldest and > youngest listees? To start you off, I'm > 16 - I believe that I am a possible contender for OAP listee. > this could be interesting!...and l'm up for the baby of the pack at a few weeks off my 40th birthday....cake,sweets,choccies and balloons gratefully received !!....24th april...remember it o.k.?? kisses sue +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From caleb.rudd at xxx.net Thu Mar 4 05:31:33 1999 From: caleb.rudd at xxx.net (Caleb Rudd) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 05:31:33 Subject: Sinister: suited and booted Message-ID: <3.0.6.16.19990304053133.2b4f9108@mail.virgin.net> mornin' As mentioned by listees less tardy than myself, Blue Soda last Friday was on top form, with Mr. Leonard's performance being bold and heartfelt. Tim and Mike's encore nearly brought a tear to the eye as well, and not in a pain kind of way. Jeep(st)ers, Creepers - the sinister brethern are a extremely gifted lot. I interviewed Jake and Dan from My Life Story last Saturday which was good, although I had to sign an agreement that I would not publish or tell anyone anything about it until April 21st. Apparantly they're worried about the NME getting hold of news of the internet. I can see their point, but really this is My Life Story...I think they'll be lucky if the NME print anything non-derogatory about them...ever. I will say that they are signed to IT records, a lable funded by Andrew Lloyd Webber after being dropped by Paralophone whom they owed bout 500,000 pounds to, and they have changed direction a bit...(these aren't new facts, but they were clarified during the interview). At the Blue Soda a few of us had the idea for T-Shirts or badges (or whatever) for the sinister devotees going to Camber sands, as something to identify each other by, as well as a keepsake. I have no idea on how to go about doing these, and am not sure if I want to be the one doing the organising (I'm working on Papercuts#2, you realise) but how about these slogans for starters: P!O!P! Sinister Sands/Sinister at the Sands I've been to Bowlie too* Sun, Sex, Sand and Sinister Just another modern rock badge Sinister: Steps Tragedy Up yours Waterman! (* Probably only funny to Australians [and then only slightly] who remember the Redgum song "I've been to Bali too") Au Revoir Caleb /-(^)-----------------------------------------------------------(^)-----\ | Chester Indie Zine http://www.darkshadow.com/chester | | UKindiePOPdance editor at chester.org.au | | New interviews: Jack, Lucksmiths, Underground Lovers + Pictures! | \-(v)-----------------------------------------------------------(v)-----/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Thu Mar 4 03:55:14 1999 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 19:55:14 -0800 Subject: Sinister: !!!!! In-Reply-To: <199903040104.TAA10259@tremont.dpc.net> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990303195514.03014910@mail.hooked.net> i responded personally to Mrs. Murdoch. it's wonderful to learn something from a mailing list. the allegory basically can be summed up as: 1. jesus is hamich 2. god is the goldfish 3. the kingfisher is tony blair. right? ;) senor droolcup PS: 4. stu, mick, isobelle, etal are the original friends. At 07:06 PM 3/3/99 -0600, Matthew wrote: >is no one going to mention the incredibly moving posting of mrs murdoch?!!! >please, honey, anyone, say something! >I've never posted before, I don't want to jump in and rant. > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MEA95DAD at xxx.uk Thu Mar 4 10:20:59 1999 From: MEA95DAD at xxx.uk (Dan) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:20:59 +0000 Subject: Sinister: !!!!! Message-ID: > the allegory basically can be summed up as: > 1. jesus is hamich > 2. god is the goldfish > 3. the kingfisher is tony blair. > > right? ;) > No no, God is Hamish, Jesus is the Goldfish and the Kingfisher is Pete Waterman. Oh, first post by the way. Hello everyone! Dan. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Thu Mar 4 10:57:58 1999 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (weejay) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:57:58 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Sleeping with the black dog Message-ID: <199903041051.KAA29464@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> Heigh-ho sinister, I myself am wary to the dangers of falling asleep to nick drake - Not that I've had any relatives die since, um, my cousin last summer and that was pre-drake-discovery, but I really can't put on 'time of no reply' or my sampler as they both contain black dog, a track apt to give me a v.scary recurring nightmare. If you know the song you'll know what I mean. I did it (fell asleep to the tape, that is, oh smutmongers) at my friend dans place and it didn't happen that time but its different when there's 3 other people sleeping in the same room, isn't it? Um, what else...? Oh yeah - I've got a reccomendation to put to you, although not a very hard-to-find one... Anyway, it's 'The God Of Small Things' by Ahrundati Roi (Misspelling probably, but I left the book at home) which I think may have won the booker prize but it's not at all dry, it's really emotionally affecting. The style is a bit like Salinger's stories about the Glass family, only post-collonial Indian. I'm still thinking about what it all meant and I haven't come to any firm conclusions yet, so I can't say much more really. If any of you ever have any doubts about this list and it's quality, I suggest you subscribe to the chemikal underground list - I just deleted 50 postings about a band called 'godspeed you black emperor' who I've never heard of and aren't even on CU. One list for me from now on. Thank you all for writing interesting things. Hey, better go to my lecture - dullest of the week by quite a way but it's too late to sleep through it. dada, james xxxxxxxxxxxxx "Weej! Shut Up!" - everybody, all the time. Blue Glow is at; http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/blueglow.html And you can visit me at http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/wjpages.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iles at xxx.uk Thu Mar 4 14:58:48 1999 From: iles at xxx.uk (Mark Iles) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:58:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The parable of the Hamster In-Reply-To: <199903041134.EAA09426@turtle.esosoft.net> Message-ID: >i responded personally to Mrs. Murdoch. >it's wonderful to learn something from a mailing list. > >the allegory basically can be summed up as: >1. jesus is hamich >2. god is the goldfish >3. the kingfisher is tony blair. > >right? ;) > >senor droolcup > >PS: 4. stu, mick, isobelle, etal are the original friends. No, no, no, you're both wrong. Stuart Murdoch is Hamish, the Goldfish is Jeepster, the Kingfisher is... errr... Seymour Stein. The original friends are people who've been subscribed to Sinister for ages (or have Tigermilk on vinyl) while the new friends who like the crappy new obstacle are fans drawn in by B&S's Brits victory. So the moral is that B&S should stick with Jeepster and not be lured by major labels and their moneygrubbing ways. And of course old fans are far superior to these Johnny-come-lately newbies (curse them and their "Can someone make me a copy of Tigermilk?" ways). Mark P.S. Only joking. No flames please. ___________________________________________________________________________ Mark Iles, Tel: +44 (0113) 2065042 Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Fax: +44 (0113) 2340183 Genetic Epidemiology Laboratory, Ashley Wing, Email: iles at boreas.leeds.icnet.uk St James's University Hospital, Beckett Street, Leeds, LS9 7TF U.K. ____________________________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at Thu Mar 4 15:46:40 1999 From: Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at (Vanessa R. Siegl) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 16:46:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Weird!!! In-Reply-To: <199903040946.CAA21263@turtle.esosoft.net> Message-ID: <291AF3B0190@s06user2.uibk.ac.at> I just got a mail from a guy complaining that he had gotten a message to sinister?! >I come receiving email that nao belongs me. I request that vocês >they stop of email for me. Debtor does anyone else have this problem? love vanxxx _____________________________________________________ Forgive me for I have not sinned csaa7950 at s06user2.uibk.ac.at ..or _gapminder at yahoo.com Http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/theater/1666 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Thu Mar 4 16:05:00 1999 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MS1996) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 16:05:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: There is a heaven! And Hefner are there... References: <17173531204905@holyrood.gla.sch.uk> Message-ID: <36DEAF2C.D7C80C1F@cs.strath.ac.uk> Chris Mellan wrote: > Firstly, does anyone know if looper are going to do any thing in glasgow? - > they seem to have done gigs in every other town's banch of borders, which > really sucks. Looper are playing in Missing (Wellington Street) next Thursday (11th) at 5pm (I think). I'm going and I know at least one (possibly two) other person/people who is/are. It could be quite busy as the single seems to be getting a reasonable amount of air-play on The Evening Session etc. Did anyone listen to the 'Hefner go gospel' session on John Peel last night? Even in my non-believing state (about God and the overall quality of 'Breaking God's Heart') it was still wonderful. And Peel thought so as well. By the way I'd advise everyone not to buy his 'Sounds of The Suburbs' mini-album. It's shit. Bye-bye Alasdair xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mrsmurdoch at xxx.com Thu Mar 4 15:47:45 1999 From: mrsmurdoch at xxx.com (Mrs Murdoch) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 07:47:45 PST Subject: Sinister: The parable of the Hamster Message-ID: <19990304154745.2986.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello, it's Mrs. Murdoch here Stuart's mum. One of the best things about Jesus' parables are the way they can be applied to situations in your own life. That's one of the reasons why I love Jesus more than, say, Daniel O' Donnell. Although that young man is a total ride. Chris and Mark, I'm pleased you have both applied the parable to situations around you, there's plenty more in the New Testament I'm sure you would benefit from. You can get a copy free from the Gideon people, or by simply trying you're hand at petty theft. However, the interpretations you have both come up with are quite different from mine. That's not a bad thing at all, I just thought I'd let you know. Keep trying boys and girls, Mrs. Murdoch ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From foxinthesnow_ at xxx.com Thu Mar 4 16:29:29 1999 From: foxinthesnow_ at xxx.com (Fox in the snow) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 08:29:29 PST Subject: Sinister: i had a dream Message-ID: <19990304162930.6131.qmail@hotmail.com> >i like typing out 'belle and sebastian' in full, instead of B&S, it sounds > (well, looks) nicer. >i know that the name comes from a book that was made into a tv series but > i'm sure that i saw a cartoon version of it when i was a little kid, did > anyone else see it or am i being delusional? >=E0 bient=F4t, >annie You are right... I remember seeing that I can't remember if it was everyday or every week.. I don,t think I was too much into Belle et S�bastien in that time;) But i know my friends were really into them.. Which reminds me of some physic class when I was drawing B&S and songs all over my book and this girl started talking about the tv show and singing the theme song of it:) well that's my 2 cents.. I,ve tried finding that tv show and the book also a few months ago and I never got around to find them :/ Maybe someday I will:) well cheers, Karolyne xxx 1/2 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From M223CMellan at xxx.uk Thu Mar 4 16:32:19 1999 From: M223CMellan at xxx.uk (M223CMellan) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 16:32:19 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Crazy Spanish man Message-ID: <16340892105169@holyrood.gla.sch.uk> A lady wrote in refference to a guy who had accidentaly been recieving mail from her I got one too. he said >I come receiving email that nao belongs me. I request that vocês they stop >of email for me. >Debtor His name was Winston Adam Carmago. He was a frightening spanish chap. I propose that we assemble a vigilante squad immediately, and terminate his life. Also, and more answers regarding the youngest / oldest listees. Mail the list about this, or I shall get you soon. Ha. I'm currently in computing supported study after school, and mr pollock (GOOYEY - GUUUUUIIIIII "Stupid yanks stealing our RISC technology, and passing it off as their own") It is currently 4:30 pm GMT, I'm siitng here, at a computer, in a school, in the soouthside of glasgow, and I'm very pleased, as I've got a sh#t hot mark for my computing investigation. Don't ask me how - some of us have got it, while the others ain't. Chris Mellan CRYSTALBALLS M223CMELLAN at holyrood.gla.sch.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From M223CMellan at xxx.uk Thu Mar 4 16:55:51 1999 From: M223CMellan at xxx.uk (M223CMellan) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 16:55:51 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Well, I'm sooooo sory, but he was speaking english Message-ID: <16574500005179@holyrood.gla.sch.uk> Linda Kerr emailed me in response to the Crazy "spanish" man she said >You might be good at computing, but languages aren't so hot....:) >Linda well, linda, I'm soooooo sorry. He was writing IN ENGLISH!!!!. I only assumed that he was spanish because of his name. Besides, I've never studied spanish, or portugese for that matter. I've only ever done french. AND I AM HOT AT LANGUAGES - I got a straight 1 in my standard grade french. In fact, last year, I sat 8 subjects at standard grade, (maths, english, french, history, physics, chemistry, art, and computing) and I got straight 1 s in all of them (The only person in a year with 450 pupils) So, in future, please do not insult people when you don't know the entire story. Chris Mellan CRYSTALBALLS M223CMELLAN at holyrood.gla.sch.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From M223CMellan at xxx.uk Thu Mar 4 17:08:00 1999 From: M223CMellan at xxx.uk (M223CMellan) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 17:08:00 -0000 Subject: Sinister: sorry, but it's me again Message-ID: <17095037505187@holyrood.gla.sch.uk> I hope I didn't sound arrogant on my last mail. If I did, I'm sorry, but it wasn't intended. I'm also sorry for mailing frequently today. Pleeeeeese tell me the baby and grandparent listees - everyone responded so well to dave's plea for his mum's tape - be nice to me. And does anyone want to meet up in glasgow soon - possibly for the looper gig? Chris Mellan CRYSTALBALLS M223CMELLAN at holyrood.gla.sch.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brennan at xxx.uk Thu Mar 4 17:11:27 1999 From: brennan at xxx.uk (Brennan) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 17:11:27 -0000 Subject: Sinister: A lesson from the Bible Message-ID: <007201be6662$1e9ebbe0$6f0b883e@rcspo> No, no, no. Hamish the frog is in fact an alien from outer space who came down and hypnotised us all with his magnificent jumping. The Kingfisher is one of those really gullible people who really believes they've been abducted by aliens ho now live with them and that Goldfish is simply another competitor who thought he'd build a hurdle so high that the frog would just give up and go back to his own planet to play music. But it didn't work and the goldfish gradually realised the music was better because of the list. But the Kingfisher is Pete Waterman. >From last week's Melody Maker, Bell and Sebastian got 9,300 votes and Steps got 9,000. Saying that 1000 ish came from this list it's not really that dramatic. It's also strange for all these celebrity fans to suddenly come out of the closet like Boy George and Charleen Spiteri. So will the award make the band better? I don't think so because the songs are about real life and when bands become more and more famous their life is not real any more and their songs are not so touching (now there's a point for debate) but then again, will B&S ever attain the renown they should get with people like us wanting to keep them for our own and being afraid of a new list (does the word luddite mean anything to you?) Finally who's heard/listens to Ben Harper. He's as touching as B&S and at his best as good a guitarist as I've heard. Bye Oliver +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Mar 4 13:14:12 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:14:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Purloined Brit Message-ID: <01be6640$e6392f40$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Warrander John, I'm sorry to have been the bearer of bad tidings, but you're right about Dusty Springfield being a smashing person, at least according to Gerry Marsden of Gerry and the Pacemakers. He was interviewed on the radio yesterday, saying that Dusty was "a lovely lady, a lovely lady", which he followed up by proving that every cloud has a silver lining - "Now she's in Heaven singing duets with John Lennon", he said. Having it off, more like. Speaking of clapped out Liverpudlian comedians, are the folks at Jeepster after Bobby Chariot's job? All that whining self-pity, they'll be moaning on about sleeping in their Jags and taking pills for their nerves soon. What happened to feeling very strongly that we shouldn't be wallowing in past history? Mrs. Murdoch, I enjoyed your Bible story very much. Do the local children still come and see you when they scrape their knee? What about if they have a moral dilemna? Yes there was a Belle and Sebastian cartoon, and a balck and white television series, and a series of books. It's all to be found in the Ark of the Covenant, formerly known as the archives. Well worth a visit. The "other" list hasn't got one. Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Thu Mar 4 17:17:18 1999 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 09:17:18 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Hamish & The Gift of the Magi In-Reply-To: <19990304154745.2986.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990304091718.02f74310@mail.hooked.net> I'm embarrassed to say that I once found a box of weird new-age books on the street and took a couple of them to a used bookstore to sell them. I was extremely low on cash (was doing medical experiments for money) and needed to eat. I got $4 dollars for them. However, since the bookstore also sold used records, I found a Smiths 7" that I got instead of food. Later when I passed out from starvation, I heard murmurs of "Shoplifters of the World Unite" trickling in my pseudo-consciousness. Poetic justice? It's not a bible story, but L.Ron Hubbard could pass as Merv Griffin to some... bow down! senor droolcup <- coming down from the pulpit At 07:47 AM 3/4/99 PST, Mrs Murdoch wrote: >Hello, it's Mrs. Murdoch here Stuart's mum. > >One of the best things about Jesus' parables are the way they can be >applied to situations in your own life. That's one of the reasons why I >love Jesus more than, say, Daniel O' Donnell. Although that young man >is a total ride. Chris and Mark, I'm pleased you have both applied the >parable to situations around you, there's plenty more in the New >Testament I'm sure you would benefit from. You can get a copy free from >the Gideon people, or by simply trying you're hand at petty theft. >However, the interpretations you have both come up with are quite >different from mine. That's not a bad thing at all, I just thought I'd >let you know. > >Keep trying boys and girls, > Mrs. Murdoch > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From A.Ward at xxx.uk Thu Mar 4 17:47:24 1999 From: A.Ward at xxx.uk (Anne Ward) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 17:47:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Would you like to see some puppies? Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990304174724.00a52e90@scooter.gcal.ac.uk> Hello All Did anyone see Pete Waterman on the Channel 4 news last night? They got him on to talk about Dusty Springfield. He reckons she was almost as talented as Rick Astley. Mr Crystalballs said; And does anyone want to meet up in glasgow soon - possibly for the looper gig? Yes, that would be lovely. It would be very helpful if you could wear your school uniform so the other listees can recognise you. Just as well you're not a girl, or people might think you were Dizzabel. Better wear some short trousers anyway, just to make sure. I'll be one of the old women ogling at the back. See you there Anne xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Thu Mar 4 17:51:36 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 17:51:36 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Crazy Spanish man In-Reply-To: <16340892105169@holyrood.gla.sch.uk> Message-ID: M223CMellan said: > A lady wrote in refference to a guy who had accidentaly been recieving mail > from her > I got one too. I think he mailed everyone on the list who sent a message, poor soul :) It's OK I've taken him off now (gently), so don't worry if you got one. A message, not a Brazilian man. M223CMellan also said: > Also, and more answers regarding the youngest / oldest listees. Mail the > list about this, or I shall get you soon. Ha. Don't any of you dare :) Send your response to Mr Melonman personally, as it doesn't take a great leap to work out 1000 responses times 1000 subscribers means a million mails and Sinister goes off in a sulk, except that you'll have all left anyway after the 500th mail saying "I'm 22". Just when you're all doing so well. Chris, when get the results, can we have the mean, the median, the variance, the standard deviation and the square of the hypotenuse please. A serious point - for these sort of requests could everyone make sure they say in capitals "send to me, not the list please". But in capitals. I thank you. honey xxx NP: that silent bit lasting 0.1 seconds just after the electronic brrrrp on Cornelius's "New Music Machine", just before the chorus kicks in for the last time, to the background sound of people arguing about a broken photocopier +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hopkinstim at xxx.com Thu Mar 4 17:29:31 1999 From: hopkinstim at xxx.com (Tim Hopkins) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 09:29:31 PST Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199903041729.JAA03142@law-lfd72.hotmail.com> Hello. "Big Stu" Gardiner wrote: >To all the newbies out there (and everyone else for that matter), join the club, it's good to have >you along. Hooray! Because I�m a newbie and an old hand and I�m just writing to say hello (because that's good form I'm told) and I�m back... I have grown bored of surrealist landscape gardening and eating nothing but chips and curry sauce and so I�m back and sinister and I want to play. It seems to me that since I have been away a number of you have been Very Silly Billies and really someone should knock some heads together. That person probably won�t be me. Let me just say this: this has been, and is, the best mailing list that I ever came across, and what happens elsewhere in the world isn�t relevant. I am now fully sarfeest londoned up, gorblimey. You wouldn�t recognise me now with my superfly clothes, shiny motor and cocky cockney swagger. It�s so good to be back here amongst you strange and faintly diseased people. Cheerio Tim H ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trarvild at xxx.se Thu Mar 4 19:20:17 1999 From: trarvild at xxx.se (Katarina Karlsson) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 20:20:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian for english education Message-ID: <199903041924.UAA25343@mb07.swip.net> My mother played TheFox in the snow at a English lesson today. I gave her sinister and told her that number 6 get me away frome here I'mdying was an easy text but she misunderstod or something and played number 5. It's nothing wromng with that, the fox is very special. The trouble is that it was one line that was hard for them to translate. I know it was a lot of Fox translations on this list some months ago but the archives doesn't work and I dont know if anyone explained this line, it is: ".....Before you hang a right..." Is it some English phrase or is it something the song writer thought sounded good? Does anyone no what it mean or have some good guess? Please help me, my mother promissed her english teacher an explenation and now she has tossed the problem over to me. But there was another fun thing that hapened when she played the fox inthe snow in the classroom. Another english teatcher came in to the room and she liked the music and thought it wasa good training english music so she wanted tohave it to play on her lessons! I think this is a fantastic new way of using their music. Maybee they should start making english education tapes of that sort that they always have in schools: "Hallo listeners, my name is Stuart, today we are going to sing aboute foxes, sing after me please....." Why didn't I get Belle and Sebastian education when on my english lessons. Then I maybee would have learnd something. It is nice to sit down with friends listening to Mrs Murdoch when she tells us stories with moral in. I thing that one importent thing inthe story is the responsibility of everyone that payed the kingfisher dirty money and then agreed to pay himmore money every time. In one way they made the kingfisher and helped the destruktive part of this story. And that was very tragic for everyone even the kingfisher because I think he also just loved to see Hamish jump over the obstacle. I want to belive that Jeepster tryed to do something pretty and good for us when they started the new list. But I can't think of some good resons for one more list. If they wanted tobe nice to us I think they should write and explain their great plan now when sinister is feeling a bit offended. Karolyne and Annie youre dreams are wonderfull I allway like dreams.Maybee that iswhy I'm a bit lazy. The first Belle and Sebastian dream is always something special, I can still remember mine.It is also always nice to read other persons dreams. Sweet dreams to everyone and an apple cake frome me to Mrs Murdoch Katta +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Thu Mar 4 20:02:40 1999 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid Dossinger) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 15:02:40 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Good ol' Hamish Message-ID: <36DEE6DB.3D5CF79F@bigfoot.com> > is no one going to mention the incredibly moving posting of mrs murdoch?!!! > please, honey, anyone, say something! > I'll mention it. Ah, it took me back to a more carefree time, when Granny used to call us around the fire and we'd call out "Ooh! Ooh! Please tell us the story of Hamish the Frog again!" And she would, and we'd be astounded by its truth and moved by its beauty. And we'd boo all mentions of the Kingfisher ("Just like that mean ol' President Ford!" we'd say) and cheer our little hearts out for the goldfish. It was a beautiful story then, and it's a beautiful story now. No wonder Stuart's such a great songwriter, with a great story-teller Mom like that. I'm beginning to have guesses as to whose hand is up Mrs. Murdoch's dress. ~Reid +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Niceaction at xxx.com Thu Mar 4 21:59:32 1999 From: Niceaction at xxx.com (Niceaction at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 16:59:32 EST Subject: Sinister: Gentle Waves Message-ID: <3bf4be7e.36df0244@aol.com> hi all. Radio 1 just played a song called Weathershow ? by the Gentle Waves, and i have to say im incredibly impressed. Think St Ettienne with funky guitar instead of so much keyboards and you have it.. its very up-beat, and sounds brilliant ! My mate reckons he had a dream about Belle & Sebastian the other night, but he doesnt like them and doesnt know what they look like.. I asked him what they were doing in the dream and he said that the 4 people in the band ??? all had normal jobs, and one was a window cleaner.. He couldnt tell me anymore though. I so hope i have a dream tonight in which Isobel is a window cleaner, and she is wearing a skirt, and im under the ladder !! Anyway.. thats enough smut. Take it easy people Jamie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Thu Mar 4 22:20:29 1999 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksAndAJill) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 17:20:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Thought you could hide from me, did ya?:) Message-ID: <199903042220.RAA71310@dept.english.upenn.edu> Well, I've finally found the Sinister list (page) again after a rather X-Files like disappearance without a trace from the usual phedacky site. Thanks to Honey for answering my desperate cry for help on the indiepop list. I had a nice business trip up to Boston a couple of weeks ago where I saw _Rushmore_ (totally classic, reminded me immensely of _Harold and Maude_ but not quite as sad, but still very life-affirming) and attended pretty lame "mod" night, which was actually way more Britpop. Which is fine, but durnit, if you're gonna call it a mod night play more '60s stuff Mr./Ms. DJ! Oh well, they did play the original "Tainted Love" which was great. Also whilst in Boston I bought two Felt CDs that they had at the HMV at Harvard/Brattley Square..._Forever Breathes The Lonely Word_ and _The Strange Idols Pattern/Ignite The Seven Cannons_. They are amazing. Get them, if you want some Felt. Now I just have to find _Poem of the River_... Nice to see Pam on the list again, though I wasn't on it when she was first around. Hi Pam, say hi to Powell for me! All right then. I was feeling a little out of whack for a while there, but now that I got my Sinister archives (with a lovely lavender background...I like what you've done with the place Honey!) I can go back to being really, *really* unproductive at work. Xavier -- BXK M o t h e r , M a y bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu I S l e e p http://www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 W i t h D a n g e r ? X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sburon at xxx.fr Thu Mar 4 22:37:19 1999 From: sburon at xxx.fr (Stephane) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 23:37:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Camber shirts References: <3.0.6.16.19990304053133.2b4f9108@mail.virgin.net> Message-ID: <36DF0B1E.4D1DA335@club-internet.fr> Hi list!!! Great to be back, you missed me, really... Caleb Rudd wrote: > At the Blue Soda a few of us had the idea for T-Shirts or badges (or > whatever) for the sinister devotees going to Camber sands, as something to > identify each other by, as well as a keepsake. Yes, that's a very very good idea!!! There could be slogans on our tee-shirts, but there could be also a picture, something more or less related to computers and Belle and Sebastian... I'm sure some of you could draw a nice and pop picture, then scan it and put it on a website (we could put it on mine, if you want :-), everyone would download the picture, then put it on their own t-shirt. I have no idea of what it could be, maybe something that would look like Laura's pictures on Honey site... It could even be simpler to use one of her drawings, provided she's ok, of course. We could organize sort of contest and the best picture would be eventually chosen after a vote... What do you think? As far as slogans are concerned, these are the ones I prefer: > P!O!P! > Sun, Sex, Sand and Sinister > Sinister: Steps Tragedy Looking forward for the Camber Sands Festival... Take care, lovely popkids Stephane +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hushpad at xxx.net Thu Mar 4 23:09:05 1999 From: hushpad at xxx.net (Matthew) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 17:09:05 -0600 Subject: Sinister: A lesson from the Bible Message-ID: <199903042306.RAA22832@tremont.dpc.net> ah, so much for a young theological mind to absorb. jesus never did explain his parables to any one but the diciples. we got it second hand and were told to just believe in it and pay up. here is my tithe mrs murdouch.:) mathew. (no relation to the tax collecter) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Thu Mar 4 23:48:41 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 23:48:41 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Speaking plainly and Gentle Waves Tour Message-ID: News from Jeepster of The Gentle Waves UK tour below. In case anyone doesn't know, The Gentle Waves is Isobel's project, with various members of B&S sprinkled around and seasoned to taste. Also - for anyone using dreaded Microsoft mailers like Outlook, and possibly Netscape users who post to the list: these programs often cause problems especially for digest readers who end up with sore tummies because of all the rubbish these mailers add in to mails if you don't take a look at your settings. The software I'm using will block all such mails to try and keep things sane, so please take a look at a new page I've included on the site at: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/plaintext.html if you're using these programs. It's all terribly boring I'm afraid, but like cutting your toenails, a necessity of life if you don't want people slinking away from you at bus stops. Finally, all the people who were in the nursery ~before~ the list moved are now out of it and can post. I couldn't be bothered reprogramming it - shoddy workman I know. For new subscribers the normal stuff applies. sweet dreams, honey xxx ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Katrina House To: news at jeepster.co.uk Subject: jeepsternews: THE GENTLE WAVES Tour - April 1999 Hi all, here's the tour dates: The Gentle Waves Live plus two short films Friday 2nd April - Leeds City Varieties Theatre, Swan Street, Leeds, LS1 Tickets cost �8.00 each and are available from Way Ahead on 0113 242 0808 or 0115 912 9000 Saturday 3rd April - Cardiff The Coal Exchange, The Exchange Buildings, Mount Street Square, Cardiff Tickets cost �7.00 each and are available from the venue on 01222 330 220 or 01222 230 130 Sunday 4th April - London The Improv Theatre, 161 Tottenham Court Road, London, W1 Tickets cost �8.00 each and are available from the venue on 0171 387 2814 and from Ticketweb on 0171 771 2000 and http://www.ticketweb.co.uk Saturday 10th April - Glasgow The Mitchell Theatre, Exchange House, 229 George Street, Glasgow, G1 Tickets cost �7.00 each and are available from the venue on 0141 287 5511 The Ticketweb tickets are on sale now, however all other outlets will go on sale Monday 8th March. Cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 0291942a01 at xxx.es Thu Mar 4 00:25:14 1999 From: 0291942a01 at xxx.es (Jordi Trenzano Vilar) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 00:25:14 +-100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <01BE6636.4C24CD60@Abonado-195-53-34-8.cat.es> Bona nit, sinistres !!! First of all, I?d like to correct something: when I decided to make a B&S I thought it was going to be hard filling 44 pages only with them...... but in the 2nd issue (which will probably be ready the first week after the Bowlie Weekender) i?ll have to add 8 new pages, due to the lack of space. And i?ll change the format of the lyrics section. As you can understand (or not, it depends on all of you) for me it?s not necessary to put a picture of thirty years ago. And I think that I made myself clear talking about those dark tricks which made proud a guy (you can also call him bastard, if Honey allows me) called Franco. However, I agree that the song was much better than Cliff Richard?s one, this guy who was advertising for a "new church" or something similar, some years ago. Howvever, I really appreciate PJ?s help, which has been really neccessary at the time of translating the lyrics into spanish. I warn you, sister Disco, you?ll have to help me again, with the addition of a teacher of english philology, who?s now working at the university of Granada. Fluffy, if you want the zine you can E-Mail me back. Finally, does anyone know a website where you can find the Field Mice?s lyrics ? Bye. Jordiet. Oh, i?ve used my old E-Mail software again. Honey told me that with that new adress nothing bad can happen, but if something goes wrong, all of you excuse my apologies. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From katfood at xxx.com Fri Mar 5 03:21:39 1999 From: katfood at xxx.com (kathrine browne) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 21:21:39 -0600 Subject: Sinister: belle and sebastian the cartoon Message-ID: <199903050325.VAA26509@zoom1.telepath.com> >>i know that the name comes from a book that was made into a tv series >but >> i'm sure that i saw a cartoon version of it when i was a little kid, >did >> anyone else see it or am i being delusional? in america, the show was on nickelodeon and involved sebastian the boy and the dog belle. belle was a big white fluffy dog and everyone thought he was dangerous and were always trying to kill him. of course, sebastian knew better and they were best friends. sebastian was trying to get home to his father because for some reason he had been separated from him. the boy and the dog were very good at hopping on trains and thats how they traveled most of the time. so belle protected him and saved his life at least once each episode. he was also very good at saving other children's lives. anyways......thats what i remember of it. kathrine +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Fri Mar 5 03:43:01 1999 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (Kerry Lannert) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 22:43:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: looper single Message-ID: so for quite some time now i've been looking for that looper single (there's only the one, "impossible things," right?) and i could never find it, until tonight!!!!!!! i was rummaging through the 7" single section at my local crappy record store, when i came upon the looper single for no more than $4. yay! unfortunately,my stupid boyfriend doesn't have a record player so i haven't gotten a chance to hear it yet. hmph. -kerry http://hamp.hampshire.edu/~kwl96 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wizard at xxx.com Fri Mar 5 03:51:12 1999 From: wizard at xxx.com (Dan Cohen) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 22:51:12 -0500 Subject: Sinister: belle and sebastian the cartoon References: <199903050325.VAA26509@zoom1.telepath.com> Message-ID: <36DF54AF.4132C2F8@twcny.rr.com> kathrine browne wrote: > in america, the show was on nickelodeon and involved sebastian the boy and > the dog belle. belle was a big white fluffy dog and everyone thought he was > dangerous and were always trying to kill him. of course, sebastian knew > better and they were best friends. sebastian was trying to get home to his > father because for some reason he had been separated from him. the boy and > the dog were very good at hopping on trains and thats how they traveled most > of the time. so belle protected him and saved his life at least once each > episode. he was also very good at > saving other children's lives. anyways......thats what i remember of it. Yes. It was along the same lines as David the Gnome and The Little Prince...loads of blatant anthropomorphism and odd overseas animation...these were the "glory days" of nickelodeon, from maybe 1986-1988...long before commercialization and Nickelodeon rap albums and low-budget Hollywood movies. It was one freaking *weird* cartoon, though. As Kathrine said, there wasn't much resembling a plot, and they never did get back to Sebastian's father for obvious reasons, kind of like how you never saw what's-his-face's mask on Inspector Gadget. Ah...childhood. ~Dan Cohen http://dan.nodata.org UIN: 13907258 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MSitar0 at xxx.com Fri Mar 5 03:54:15 1999 From: MSitar0 at xxx.com (MSitar0 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 22:54:15 EST Subject: Sinister: Fox in the Snow Message-ID: <16f8cdd7.36df5567@aol.com> On the subject of Fox in the Snow, has anyone else ever come across the Gustave Courbet painting of the same name? Think there might any intentional connection to it? Please share your thoughts and feelings. Megs +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Fri Mar 5 04:52:45 1999 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick * Sandcastle Records) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 23:52:45 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Brian "Mick" Pennington: Field Mice Obsessive, Cartoon Compulsive Message-ID: <36DF631C.94D6D02D@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Greetings... I heard the most disturbing thing earlier this evening. I was stopped at an e-mail terminal to see if I'd gotten anything particularly interesting, and there was a tape deck playing. The song playing sounded somehow familiar, only the singer sounded like Marilyn Manson, and I don't believe I know any song they've done other than that Eurhythmics cover. I realized, then, that it was New Order's "Blue Monday," only they replaced the synths with awful teen angstariffic guitars, and that singer, be he Marilyn Manson or be he someone else. I hope it's not him that did the cover, that's just plain wrong. Jordi (who is not a bebe) asked: > Finally, does anyone know a website where you can find the Field > Mice?s lyrics ? Hm, let me check something first...yes, memory served me well. There is only (to my knowledge) one Field Mice page up on the net. And it is certainly comprehensive enough to do without any more. It's also been revampd into a lovely tasteful scrummy resource for all your Field Mice needs. The page of which I speak is , and it is run by Andy Dean, who is on the list I think. He used to do a B&S page too, long long ago. Anyhow, the website used to have lyrics, but apparently he was politely asked to remove them. Luckily there was advance warning of this, and so I greedily snatched all of the lyrics up onto my clipboard and electronically pasted them onto a Word file, which I have saved. So Jordi, if you would like it, please e-mail me and I'll send it your way. There was, for a time, another site, but I think all it even consisted of was an interview with Robert Wratten, or actually I think there were two interviews with him. Anyway, it's been gone quite some time now. Also, Jordi, I have a collection of Robert Wratten farting into a microphone, at several different pitches, so let me know if you'll want those too, they're a hot commodity on Sha-La-La. Even more than my tapes of Stuart Murdoch clearing his throat in the morning. My favorite is the one where he coughs a couple times. Dan Cohen says: > Yes. It was along the same lines as David the Gnome and The Little > Prince...loads of blatant anthropomorphism and odd overseas > animation...these were the "glory days" of nickelodeon, from maybe > 1986-1988...long before commercialization and Nickelodeon rap albums > and low-budget Hollywood movies. Ahh, cartoons, one of my many loves. I too watched B&S the cartoon, though I didn't think it necessary to pipe in only to mention that fact. However, the mention of the "glory days" of Nickelodeon inspired me. Anyway, I'm not so sure that David the Gnome wasn't American, and it certainly came much later than Belle & Sebastian, as well as other favorites of Nickelodeon's heyday, such as the Little Prince, the Lost Cities of Gold, and (my personal fave) Sparticus (not about Romans at all). I think all these old movie channels and Nick at Nite and whatnot are all crap, and they should have a network that just shows old cartoons. I know what you're thinking! "You dummy, there's already Cartoon Network," but when I say old cartoons, I mean good old cartoons, not the Flinstones or Loony Tunes or anything owned by Ted Turner (except Space Ghost, it can stay). There is a wealth of old cartoons that some of us haven't seen 8 million times, and I think it's a shame that there's no way to see them. But then again, I'm weird. But, I cannot leave before making a stab at defending Nickelodeon. They may have sold out, or maybe we just got old. They still have some good stuff though, just try Rocko's Modern Life, and they're always showing old Peanuts TV shows when I'm eating breakfast. Hm, and while I'm on a creative binge, I think one of us ought to join the Jeepster list and spy on them. They can provide weekly updates, sort of like "America's Funniest Home Videos," only it would be e-mails, and not toddlers whacking their dads in the mahoneys with golf clubs ("accidentally"). Oh, and most importantly, it would in no way involve Bob Saget (I hope). /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick/Sandcastle Records <<->> bp224996 at ohiou.edu \ / Sandcastle Records Homepage: ICQ#5056758 | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | -Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Fri Mar 5 04:47:43 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 23:47:43 EST Subject: Sinister: belle and sebastian the cartoon Message-ID: <1fa0775b.36df61ef@aol.com> In a message dated 3/4/99 10:27:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, katfood at telepath.com writes: << in america, the show was on nickelodeon and involved sebastian the boy and the dog belle. belle was a big white fluffy dog and everyone thought he was dangerous and were always trying to kill him. of course, sebastian knew better and they were best friends. sebastian was trying to get home to his father because for some reason he had been separated from him. the boy and the dog were very good at hopping on trains and thats how they traveled most of the time. so belle protected him and saved his life at least once each episode. he was also very good at saving other children's lives. anyways......thats what i remember of it. kathrine >> HOLY EXPLETIVE!! THAT was belle and sebastian? I never could remember the name! it was anime-esque artwork and reminded me of the Little Prince! I loved that show!! fate! fate has brought it back to me, in the form of a fabulous band!! wow. i am so amazed that I believe I am speaking in bold font and capitals! i think i shall lie down and breathe deeply through my nose. In other, more disturbing news: Dave's Mom update: Mom would enjoy her tape more if she was not temporarily handicapped. an explanation? well ok. This, unlike other tales involving a mother, is not a parable. it is sheer fact. My mother fell down the stairs the other day while carrying two dishes full of food. Glass serving dishes. the glass broke and she landed in it. Her hands are all cut up, and so's the back of her legs. And the worst part is she sheared off an artery inside her leg from the force of the fall. So there was some internal bleeding. The emergency room said that as long as she didn't strain herself, she'd be ok. So. I now ask you to offer up prayers. Or goats, whatever. She's in a lot of pain and of course can't drive or go anywhere much. so she'll be in the house a lot and may get a mild case of cabin fever. BUT she will have more time to enjoy her lovely tape. and when she gets to feeling better I'll have her write to you marvelous people love dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sleeka_sounds at xxx.com Fri Mar 5 09:49:58 1999 From: sleeka_sounds at xxx.com (Sleeka Sounds) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 01:49:58 PST Subject: Sinister: Lines of the Times No. 28 Message-ID: <19990305094958.15979.qmail@hotmail.com> You could have knocked me over with a feather this morning, when I turned the corner into Kelvinhall underground to see a huge poster with Stuart David (Belle and Sebastian) written on the bottom. Closer inspection revelead the poster was number 28 of the "Lines of the Times" series which has been going on in the Underground for a while. It basically is just a poster with some modern prose written on it by someone based in or from or lives near or was once in Glasgow. The idea is that you read it whilst waiting for the train, deflating any potential boredom that may arise whilst, educating the schemies and maybe inspiring them to rise above going round Partick pubs selling stolen gammon steaks and watches. This one had the words to "Impossible Things". Which are nice words. I think it would make a lovely poster for anyone to have on their wall. I'm not sure who you would contact to get one though... Also, imagine my surprise to arrive home the other day to hear, from my mother of all people, that Belle and Sebastian had been on Radio Scotland playing tunes from they're new album and being interviewed. I felt quite sick to have missed this. Describe a song I said, she said it "had talking in it". "Ahh", I said, "was it Stuart David of Belle and Sebastian playing songs from the new looper album, mother?". "No", she said, "it was Belle and Sebastian", and she started getting angry with me because she had heard it and I hadn't, and I was saying she was wrong. Then I started getting angry with her because she had heard it and I hadn't and I knew I was right. grr. Perhaps another mailing list, a Belle and Sebastian Scottish Media News Mailing List is required. Hmm. Finally, my gig on March the 8th doesn't look like it's on, if anyone was interested. I'm relieved to tell the truth, the Strathclyde Union is maybe a bit too tough for me. Fond Regards, Christoffff ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From WarranderJ at xxx.uk Fri Mar 5 11:29:06 1999 From: WarranderJ at xxx.uk (Warrander John - FML) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 11:29:06 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Can I Have A P Please Bob Message-ID: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B0050F0F2@masslab1> Hello my little furry friends, I'm about to fulfill one of my lifelong ambitions this weekend cos I'm off to Madrid to see the mighty REAL at the Santiago Bernabeu. Amazingly enough I managed to persuade my missus that this would be the ideal weekend break. Can anyone advise me on some handy Spanish insults to shout while I'm there? Preferable anything that casts doubts on the morality of the Zaragoza players' mothers. Has everybody read the Camber "tips" page on the Jeepster site? I strongly suggest you do, especially if you're under seven or a bit retarded cos then you might not feel quite so patronised. You have to have three changes of clothes to get in apparently. And poor personal hygiene will not be tolerated. It doesn't say if they have that blue chemical dye stuff though, the stuff you can put in pools to catch dirty dogs who think a sly pee won't harm anyone. That's a worry. If I remember I might post the sleeve notes to Girlfish some time soon. In case anyone is unaware what Girlfish is, it's like one of those videos of a relaxing country landscape or a real log fire with gentle soothing music which you stick on when you're feeling a bit stressed and it just melts the tension away. This video has lots of nudie chicks swimming about in "Atlantis" (well, a swimming pool with the Stone Henge props from Spinal Tap dumped in it) and it's a great leap forward in intellectual relaxation. If lumpy hairy things are more your thing, then there's a Boyfish video too apparently. And Chris Mellan, I'd watch yourself if that Anne Ward's got her eye on you. She sat fifteen subjects in standard grade once and got straight 1s in all of them. I'm sure I spotted Anne in the X-Rated Jerry Springer episode "I Refuse To Wear Clothes", but I could have been mistaken. Oh, and someone said something really horrible: >I so hope i have a dream tonight in which Isobel is a window >cleaner, and she is wearing a skirt, and im under the ladder !! This left me quite speechless. I just hope that if your dream does come true Isobel falls off the ladder and crushes you under her big bottom. A fond farewell, Love...John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lyricjunkie at xxx.com Fri Mar 5 12:38:06 1999 From: lyricjunkie at xxx.com (headrush city) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 04:38:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister:happy happy it's the weekend Message-ID: <19990305123806.10306.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> The other day I was in the car with two friends and TBWTAS came round on one of my car tapes. (I've just thought of that again and imagined a tiny boy avec arab strap sky surfing around the car with a tape as a surfboard. An over-active imagination can get you into into all sorts of trouble y'know.) Back in reality, my friends actually *laughed* at B&S. My first reaction was surprise, then I felt insulted, then the conversion had to be attempted. I suppose getting "hard rock" fans to admit B&S are "alright" is enough of a result, considering. When you're so into the band you don't expect that kind of reaction. Fellow Scots Travis' "Writing to Reach You" has such an utterly beautiful melody for a chorus that it almost warrants the coveted "Belle and Sebastian-esque" accolade. Okay, you can go now. xx Natasha xx _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Fri Mar 5 12:00:50 1999 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 12:00:50 -0000 Subject: Sinister: A newbie speaks Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB6901ABF7@PARK_EX> Hello everyone, what a lovely bunch you are. I'm really quite jealous with all this talk of Camber Sands. I'm getting married the weekend after, so I think I might be quite busy. I'm writing this at work, which where I receive all these e-mails and it breaks up the day with little snippets of fluffiness (and it means I walk round whistling/humming B&S songs all day). Caleb said >I interviewed Jake and Dan from My Life Story last Saturday which was good, >although I had to sign an agreement that I would not publish or tell anyone >anything about it until April 21st. Apparantly they're worried about the >NME getting hold of news of the internet. I can see their point, but really >this is My Life Story...I think they'll be lucky if the NME print anything >non-derogatory about them...ever. I will say that they are signed to IT >records, a lable funded by Andrew Lloyd Webber after being dropped by >Paralophone whom they owed bout 500,000 pounds to, and they have >changed >direction a bit...(these aren't new facts, but they were clarified during >the interview). Hurrah for MLS, I can't stand secrets, I guess I'm just a v nosey person. On the rare occasions MLS are played at my local indie disco I'm drawn back to Friday morning @ glasto last year, a definate highlight as it was before the downpour!! *sigh* Anyway, enough of this wallowing, I really must go and do some work. love and hugs CarsmileSteve ---------------------------------------------- carsmilesteve at geocities.com visit our website http://fast.to/carsmile 'So tell me what have you got? So tell me have I lost the plot?' +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Fri Mar 5 12:37:46 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 12:37:46 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Jeepster Message-ID: Katarina Karlsson wrote concerning Jeepster: > If they wanted to be nice to us I think they should write and > explain their great plan now when sinister is feeling a bit > offended. Jeepster have sent me a detailed reply to the points that have been made on this list about them setting up their own discussion list, and it's only fair for me to say that I've been holding it up because of concern for how some minor things they say publically in their response might cause problems for individuals on this list elsewhere, and might threaten my own ability to keep Sinister going. I'm being extra cautious, and I just want to say that the delay is mine, not theirs - I'm waiting for a second response from them now, and I can assure you all that I want them to have their say, and none of the things I've commented on to them affect what they're trying to say in my opinion. Which doesn't mean I agree with it :) But let's be clear, because individuals within Jeepster might feel a bit beleagured and that's not nice for anyone: all my comments are in reference to Jeepster as an organisation and not individuals, and the decisions they make as a business, and the standard list rules continue to apply. It seems to me entirely fair that people on this list can comment about how an organisation that affects their own lives operates. But if anyone has a go at individuals on this list in an offensive way, it's flaming, and I'll jump on them with my big plastic sword. This applies equally to anyone who has a go at individuals within Jeepster as long as they remain list member, so play fair folks. And for the record, I don't *think* any of the mails so far have been flames, but simply responses to the appearance of the Jeepster discussion list which took us all by surprise. A few have been a little close to the line though, so watch out! Finally I close with the wise and relevant words of Graham Linehan, who wrote Father Ted's left half, in yesterday's Guardian. In response to the question: "Does the Internet threaten or enhance individual freedom?" he answers: "There is certainly a lot more pornography available, so more people are feeling it's OK to sit in front of a computer in the nude. That's a kind of freedom." honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From S.Ludlam at xxx.com Fri Mar 5 10:26:17 1999 From: S.Ludlam at xxx.com (Simon Ludlam) Date: 05 Mar 99 10:26:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Dublin here we come! Message-ID: I'm going to Dublin for Easter!!! Yippeee!!! Can anyone tell me of any groovy record shops in and around the city?? Love, Simon xxx ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The views expressed in the EMail and files transmitted with it are those of the individual not the company. 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tzuckerman at xxx.edu Fri Mar 5 09:47:54 1999 From: tzuckerman at xxx.edu (The Trainspotter) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 04:47:54 -0500 Subject: Sinister: looper single Message-ID: <004201be66ed$8e8c6340$6a985ed1@jubilee> kerry doll, et al. newbury comics in amherst has ballad of ray suzuki - the looper single #9.99 - I'm waiting til the album comes out - the day after my birthday! -ms. teri, hiding from bowling halls on friday nights... and btw, ker, where you've been hiding out? http://hampshire.edu/~tdzF94/ - Inspired by the writings of the eighteeth century Venetian gambler, eroticist and spy. "The day didn't go too well. Too many chocolates and cigarettes, I kept thinking of you and almost walking into lampposts." Pulp -----Original Message----- From: Kerry Lannert To: sinister at Majordomo.net Date: Thursday, March 04, 1999 10:44 PM Subject: Sinister: looper single > >so for quite some time now i've been looking for that looper single >(there's only the one, "impossible things," right?) and i could never find >it, until tonight!!!!!!! >i was rummaging through the 7" single section at my local crappy record >store, when i came upon the looper single for no more than $4. yay! >unfortunately,my stupid boyfriend doesn't have a record player so i >haven't gotten a chance to hear it yet. hmph. > >-kerry > >http://hamp.hampshire.edu/~kwl96 > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Fri Mar 5 12:01:32 1999 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 12:01:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Looper Message-ID: <36DFC79C.BE206B87@jeepster.co.uk> > Also, imagine my surprise to arrive home the other day to hear, from > > my mother of all people, that Belle and Sebastian had been on Radio Scotland playing tunes from they're new album and being interviewed. I felt quite sick to have missed this. Describe a song I said, she said it "had talking in it". "Ahh", I said, "was it Stuart David of Belle and Sebastian playing songs from the new looper album, mother?". "No", she said, "it was Belle and Sebastian", and she started getting angry with me because she had heard it and I hadn't, and I was saying she was wrong. Then I started getting angry with her because she had heard it and I hadn't and I knew I was right. grr. Perhaps another mailing list, a Belle and Sebastian Scottish Media News Mailing List is required. Hmm it was looper on "the usual suspects" on wednesday at lunchtime, and repeated on wednesday night. cheers, katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Fri Mar 5 13:51:11 1999 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MS1996) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 13:51:11 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Just a small note Message-ID: <36DFE14F.8CCBCBD1@cs.strath.ac.uk> Something I forgot to mention in my last post to the list. Shame on you if you missed the last in the series of the Mark Thomas Comedy Product (unless you live outside the UK, of course), as it contained one of the truly great television moments when Mark asked William Hague to give him one reason why anyone should bother to satirise the Conservative Party. Can anyone think of a reason, by the way? Sorry if this is too political and not musical enough. I just bought last year's Mojave 3 album and it's fantastic. There, that's redressed the balance. This has been a rather pointless mail, hasn't it? Sorry. Alasdair xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Fri Mar 5 14:11:36 1999 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 14:11:36 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: Follow the condor In-Reply-To: <199903041924.UAA25343@mb07.swip.net> Message-ID: Woo, oo oo oo oo ooh, oo oo oo oo ooh, searching for the ci-ties of g-o-old. Now that was a cartoon (emphasis on "that" - oh to be able to type in italics like Salinger). I don't know if it was made by the same people but I always associate it with Belle and Sebastian and Dogtanian And The Three Muskahounds. Did anyone else fancy Milady the cat? Oh dear, I think that was just me. Those cartoons were always about kids setting off by themselves on big adventures, and featured people flying through the air in slow motion, with their mouths open. Big hairy dogs were optional. They also used to do that crazy cartoon thing where if someone was being attacked (in slow motion with thier mouth open), and had no chance of escape, they would play the same bit of cartoon over and over again, just so the hero had time to jump on the hairy dog / jump into the giant flying condor / be saved by the three muskahounds. Does anyone remember when they found a mysterious city of gold and then it blew up? That was a tad unlucky. Now Katarina Karlsson wrote: > ... I dont know if anyone explained this line, it is: >".....Before you hang a right..." I think it's to do with throwing a punch - a right hook or something. But I'm not sure. I'm not really very good at fighting. A friend once told me that the woman in the Scottish Widows advert is Sean Connery's daughter. Does anyone know if this is true? Then again someone once told me that sombreros were back in fashion. Oh, the taunts... Bye Robin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From katfood at xxx.com Fri Mar 5 14:48:48 1999 From: katfood at xxx.com (kathrine browne) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 08:48:48 -0600 Subject: Sinister: nickelodeon cartoons Message-ID: <199903051452.IAA24748@zoom1.telepath.com> >these >were the "glory days" of nickelodeon, from maybe 1986-1988...long before >commercialization and Nickelodeon rap albums and low-budget Hollywood movies. i remember watching belle and sebastian every morning before being taken to school. however, i think my favorite show was "today's special". the one with jodi, the manequin jeff, the foam security gaurd sam, the mice, and others......anyone remember this show? sorry this has nothing to do with belle and sebastian, kathrine +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ciflux at xxx.com Fri Mar 5 14:54:02 1999 From: Ciflux at xxx.com (Ciflux at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 09:54:02 EST Subject: Sinister: glasgow, 6:15 am, wednesday morning (and beyond) Message-ID: <1322245.36dff00a@aol.com> hi all: My fiancee Callie and I are going to be in Scotland from March 24-31. We will be splitting our time between Glasgow, Edinburgh and Inverness, and we were just wondering if anything particularly cool is going on during that time. I know about the Electroscope/Famous Boyfriend/Empress show at the 13th Note on the 27th; anything else? And more importantly, how would two newlyweds kill time in Glasgow at 6:30 am on a Wednesday morning? It looks like our flight will drop us off at around that time, and we're trying to figure out what to do 'til our hotel room opens up... let me know. thanks! -- Mike ciflux at aol.com ps Self-promo time: I occasionally publish a fanzine called _Caught In Flux_, and I've just published a new issue. For more info, please check out my website: http://members.aol.com/ciflux +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sleepgirl3 at xxx.com Fri Mar 5 15:00:56 1999 From: Sleepgirl3 at xxx.com (Sleepgirl3 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 10:00:56 EST Subject: Sinister: nickelodeon cartoons Message-ID: In a message dated 3/5/99 8:54:39 AM Central Standard Time, katfood at telepath.com writes: <<--i remember watching belle and sebastian every morning before being taken to school. however, i think my favorite show was "today's special". the one with jodi, the manequin jeff, the foam security gaurd sam, the mice, and others......anyone remember this show? sorry this has nothing to do with belle and sebastian, kathrine-->> oh man that was such a cool show!! But my all time favorite Nick show had to be Pinwheel now that was a cool show. -cristina Pinwheel Pinwheel spin me around look at my pinwheel and see what I've found PINWHEEL ps. for the life of me I can't remember the show Belle and Sebastian it sounds familiar but I can't quite remember it +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Fri Mar 5 16:53:38 1999 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen - jeepster) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:53:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: (no subject) Message-ID: <36E00C12.8386943B@jeepster.co.uk> hmmm, through lots of speculation and rumour (none of which people will actually raise with us) i feel it's about time that i put across some of jeepster's ideas on why there is now a second list, and why i feel that this is compatible with existing alongside the original list. to do this though, well it requires an almost essay sized e-mail. so if you're not willing to read much, simply click delete now and be spared the twaddle :) -- "we won a brit, so why have you set up your own list and betrayed us?" well, you're right we did win a brit. and down here at jeepster central we are bloody thankful for it and wanted to say thank you in a big way, but we had had to go through a load of shite defending the win from the press and that changed it. we were even going to send a small box of chocolates to everyone on the list as a way of saying thank you, but in light of the whole press kaboodle, anything like that would now appear to be a belated bribe, which doesn't help anyone. so with regret we're unable to do this even though we had even got to the stage of asking honey for his aid to compile everyone's details so that we could send them to you. we wanted so much to explain what it meant to the band to win and relay some of the incredible anecdotes of the events in glasgow and the celebratory tone of the bands families and friends. but, sinister was gone. it left us feeling a bit lost. it was as if a mother had been robbed of it's child, there was no way to contact you, the fans, to express our love of you and to tell you how jeepster and the band were feeling about the win and carrying-on. in talking to honey on the monday after the brits, whilst sinister had problems, he stated clearly that he was looking for a new home for sinister. i had offered him the use of the jeepster majordomo late last year when the list was offline for a similar reason, but he declined, stating that the independence of the list was too important for the list identity, which is a fair point, so on this occasion we were unable to help him, except to give him occasional calls to let him know if we had heard anything. but, at a time when we needed you the most in light of all industry flak and our need to celebrate the win with the fans, and when we had so much to tell you, we were at a loss because the list we all relied on was offline and there was nothing we could do to solve it. this was the first thing that raised the question of should jeepster set up it's own list. -- "yeah, but why?" this goes a bit further than just b&s, it also reaches the other bands on our label. we have created uniform resources for all of the bands and wanted the other bands to benefit from mailing lists as much as belle and sebastian have. and since the snow patrol site will soon be handed over to a fan to run it seemed sensible to help him and create some of the resources in advance. so the idea of starting lists with our already available majordomo was obvious. but the question was raised of what would this mean for sinister. although the plan is simple enough, to provide each band with, in time, it's own list at a single location, the implementation is obviously a little bit different from that. we started by simply setting up the snow patrol and salako lists, and it seemed obvious that as we simply didn't know when sinister was going to be back online, that the start of a belleandsebastian list would not offend too much as it would grant the opportunity for everyone to talk again. it was only the day or two after the list went on-line that honey rang up and said that he had solved the problems for sinister and that he was offended by the corporate direction jeepster was taking in setting up a second list. -- now, we know that a second list appears to have deeply offended a few of you, whilst leaving even more bemused. but let's be a little more open-minded for a moment, jeepster set up the new list as part of a move to give all of our bands the same resources without relying on outside bodies which may not be reliable in times of stress. we did this to help us stay in contact with you at a time when it appeared that everyone was against us (us being the fans, band and label in light of the cheating allegations). now, the jeepster list (belleandsebastian at jeepster.co.uk) is not meant as a threat to sinister (sinister at majordomo.net). indeed i believe both will happily co-exist. sinister will still fulfil it's role fully and offer a great service to the fans by being an independent list free from band and label input which has evolved into a community of good people. the jeepster list i envision will help reduce the burden on sinister by being a first stop mailing list (which i don't personally believe will be as high in quality as the sinister list) but will allow jeepster to have an accountable method of permanently contacting the fans without using the news list and will most likely develop into a pre-sinister list. the mature and intelligent method of sinister and the posts that appear on it is not something that is likely to change in any way. The jeepster list could probably be viewed as the smaller sister of sinister and would be more teen-like in it's chat and discussion. the only thing that jeepster wanted when we set up all of these lists for salako, snow patrol and belle and sebastian was a permanently open channel by which we could communicate with the fans of each band without relying on outside parties who are not accountable to us for up-time and availability of the list and that channel of communication. i personally still do not believe this to be the 'crime to fans' as some have implied, it's been set up as a service and what you make of it is your own affair. we have tried to continue to give as much as we can for you. but we do feel very strongly that we have the right to control whether our lines of communication with you are open or closed, and I promise now that jeepster will do what it can to keep the jeepster lists permanently open in line with this. if anyone feels still that our motives are wrong, that we've sold out or anything, then feel free to mail me rather than gossip or slander elsewhere. -- on other issues, a few facts: 1- we are bloody thankful for all the support everyone has given the band and jeepster throughout the brits shambles, it means a hell of a lot, and has helped us all get through whilst ignoring what's being said. 2- jeepster are not suddenly rich because of the brit awards. The reported five-fold increase in sales is rubbish. if it were true it would have placed us in the top 30 on the UK chart, we're number 67!! and as regards the two messages i've received saying that congrats on the brits and the evidence that we're loaded can already be seen by the fact that we've bought the www.belleandsebastian.co.uk domain, well that's rubbish too. we bought the domain because the jeepster site was too busy and we get charged excess fees when it's gets too busy, and we simply worked out that the cost of the excess charges was more than the cost of getting a second account, and the second account would distribute the load which then means we don't get charged the excess. it's not that hard to do the maths, we bought the domain because it saves us money, and we're still looking at ways in which we can save, as all indies do. 3- we haven't attempted to alienate any of you, nothing could be further from the truth, what we've done is to try and not alienate you in times of trouble, but it doesn't help to have everyone over-react and not actually ask us what's going on :) 4- i've created a webpage for the bowlie fest, if anyone hasn't yet seen it, you can get to it via the belle and sebastian site or directly by going to http://www.jeepster.co.uk/bowlie/ i hope this message has helped clarify the things on a few people's mind, no doubt a few of you will harbour whatever conclusions you've already reached, but listen now, we've not changed, the band have not changed, no-one is try to alienate anyone or split any community, we're all going to carry on as we have done and continue to help the band and love their music, if you disagree with this, then i'm sorry for that, but there is no room for the indie-schmindie, if you love the music, then you should want the best for the band. cheers david PS: just in case anyone wants to quote me, this message reflects my views and only in part some of jeepster, primarily they should be contributed to me if anyone wants to bring me up on them, but i really wish you wouldn't, we've been defending ourselves against press and rumour for two weeks, we hardly want to start defending ourselves against fans, but then, it looks like that's already happening doesn't it? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tton at xxx.edu Fri Mar 5 15:22:06 1999 From: tton at xxx.edu (Thaian N. Ton) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 10:22:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: belle and sebastian the cartoon In-Reply-To: <199903050325.VAA26509@zoom1.telepath.com> Message-ID: hullo sinisterines, just a vague Belle and sebastian cartoon thought: > > in america, the show was on nickelodeon and involved sebastian the boy and > the dog belle. belle was a big white fluffy dog and everyone thought he was > dangerous and were always trying to kill him. belle was actually a she. the cartoon was beautiful and i loved the tiny dog that followed belle and sebastian, poochie. of course poor poochie isn't as memorable as belle and sebastian. -thaian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mazzy_ana at xxx.com Fri Mar 5 17:28:41 1999 From: mazzy_ana at xxx.com (ana simic) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 17:28:41 GMT Subject: Sinister: I know my wandering days are over Message-ID: <19990305172843.25024.qmail@hotmail.com> I was just wondering if any of you have made 'spring's resolutions'. I did. And I can proudly say that two of them can already be considered done!! (..no, I haven't lost any weight yet...) By the way, I got my lip-piercing out today. And nobody has noticed it yet....weird, I thought, it was kind of _in the way_. Well, I'm off to PANIC party tonight and I wish you all a nice and pleasant Friday night. pop on, people!!! luv *Ana* P.S. For those of you who haven't sensed spring yet, I advice to refer to Catatonia's ...'you don't need the sunshine, you don't need the good times'...and start thinking about it..*smiles* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mazzy_ana at xxx.com Fri Mar 5 17:28:18 1999 From: mazzy_ana at xxx.com (ana simic) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 17:28:18 GMT Subject: Sinister: I know my wandering days are over Message-ID: <19990305172842.13477.qmail@hotmail.com> I was just wondering if any of you have made 'spring's resolutions'. I did. And I can proudly say that two of them can already be considered done!! (..no, I haven't lost any weight yet...) By the way, I got my lip-piercing out today. And nobody has noticed it yet....weird, I thought, it was kind of _in the way_. Well, I'm off to PANIC party tonight and I wish you all a nice and pleasant Friday night. pop on, people!!! luv *Ana* P.S. For those of you who haven't sensed spring yet, I advice to refer to Catatonia's ...'you don't need the sunshine, you don't need the good times'...and start thinking about it..*smiles* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eliam at xxx.edu Fri Mar 5 15:28:56 1999 From: eliam at xxx.edu (Marie Elia) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 99 10:28:56 -0500 Subject: Sinister: an american in london. Message-ID: <199903051520.KAA20297@pellns.alleg.edu> good morning, sinisterites... mick mcmick was asking about the cover of neworder's bluemonday, and whether it was marilynmanson... it is a band called orgy. i don't know any of their other stuff, but i remember i was watching 120 minutes (the same night i saw the Wicked video!) and i saw the video for orgy's bluemonday... it was funny, full of boys wearing leather pants and lots of eyemakeup ... it was sort of electric 80's-ness, despite the angsty twist on the performance... i kind of like this version of the song. i've been playing it on my radio show, but mostly because i Have to play something from the metal/hardrock rotation, and it's better than korn... an aside, i named my radio show "records out of postcard messages".... anyway, while i am sadly not attending the bowlie weekender, i have secured tix to the march 24th looper gig in london -- is anyone else going? i was surprised that i still got tix yesterday -- i thought they'd be sold out. i'll be in london for the week... someone mentioned being in glasgow at 6:30 in the morning after his flight arrived, with nothing to do... this will be happening with me, too, as our flight to london lands march 21, sunday, 6am! i'm thinking, breakfast at gatwick! only rather than waiting to check into a hotel, we three girls (my travelling companions and i) will be wandering the streets of london looking for a cheap hostel. possibly sleeping at bus stops.... hmmm, this has no b&s content... well, looper is tangential, i suppose. i ought to end this now, and spare you all.... take care, xoxo, marie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From L.Kerr at xxx.uk Fri Mar 5 10:24:45 1999 From: L.Kerr at xxx.uk (L. Kerr) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 10:24:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: New England Message-ID: Dearly beloved, We did indeed go and see Billy Bragg, and he is so good in concert, in spite of the tossers in the audience, one of whom shouted "all politics is bollocks", not the most intelligent thing to say at a Billy Bragg concert, especially after paying to get in. Perhaps he was on the guest list. He was selling "Official Bootlegs" again - live recordings of that concert (or a previous one in the tour). Whay are they bootlegs if he is selling them? Is he by-passing the record company, or is it just a word to describe a style of recording. Anne Ward said Mr CrystalBalls said: >>And does anyone want to meet up in glasgow soon - possibly for the >>looper >>gig? >Yes, that would be lovely. It would be very helpful if you could wear >your school uniform so the other listees can recognise you. Just as well >you're not a girl, or people might think you were Dizzabel. Better wear >some short trousers anyway, just to make sure. I'll be one of the old >women ogling at the back. In case you make it to the Edinburgh gig, I will be one of the even older women at the back, clutching my exam certificates. Maybe we can compare :). Chris, your mother was probably just trying to annoy you. Mothers do that. They say, "Were you watching BBC2 last night" and then go on to tell you in detail about the programme you have waited all your life to watch, but miss out the crucial elements, as they had to unload the dishwasher when that bit was on. Then they say, "I was going to phone you, but I thought you'd probably know it was on" (implying that you are a sad obsessive). Was it on "Mr Anderson's Fine Tunes" - an excellent mid-afternoon programme. Nice to see chirpy cockney member of the intelligensia Tim P!o!pkins back. Now we'll see some fun! I've been flamed in public! Sweet mother of Jesus, I belong. Linda +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NeilD at xxx.uk Fri Mar 5 18:04:49 1999 From: NeilD at xxx.uk (Neil Dewhurst) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 18:04:49 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Keep the faith. Message-ID: <704AE307AB53D2119EE300805F7DF7551117FC@NCMSERVER> David is not a bad man. Jeepster are not a criminal corporate fat-cat label. I like them. They signed Belle & Sebastian. They signed all their other bands. They like the Internet. They like us. They, like us, want success for Belle & Sebastian, and, given that Jeepster is not a fat cat label it has to do all it can to market and promote without having to advertise in the break when coronation street is on. If Jeepster suddenly started charging a premium for Belle & Sebastian albums, what would we all do? I would buy the album at twice the price, I know that much, and anyone else who would buy it would be showing their support for something they believe in and want to keep going for as long as possible. Basically, having another list shouldn't change anything on this list. Why would it? If no-one leaves this list to join it, then all's well, as other people will no doubt join it. If people from this list join it, it would become more like this list, until eventually Honey would be asked to run it, at which point we could all act rather smug and talk about solidarity and stuff like that. Of course, I have no right to preach on this topic, but at the same time I have every right. Kind of a paradox, I guess. Neil Xxx "Sad songs are easier to play, I'm afraid" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Fri Mar 5 18:08:53 1999 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen - jeepster) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 18:08:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: bowlie weekender fun, and a strange happening next week Message-ID: <36E01DB5.A5693A99@jeepster.co.uk> BBC Radio 1 are making a documentary about the Bowlie Weekender (which is due to be broadcast on the Monday evening after it all takes place). As well as interviewing bands and harassing Bluecoats, they want to find a chalet full of bright young things who wouldn't object to a Radio 1 reporter following them around at various stages of the weekend, and capturing a few magic moments on tape - the laughter, the tears, the vomiting, etc... and everything that you thought was special and not so special about the weekend. Ideally you'll be an evenly mixed chalet of girls and boys (in the interests of sexual equality), preferably HUGE B&S & indie fans, and be well up for talking endlessly on the radio! If you're interested please e-mail them and they'll take it from there: james.finlayson at bbc.co.uk with the subject line of: bowlie weekender if you don't put that as the subject line it'll not be filtered into the right folder and your dreams may be lost! or if you're at the B&S fan night at the Paradise Bar next Thurs (see below) - james from Radio 1 will be down there and is happy to talk more about what they're trying to do! -- secondly a reminder to B&S fans in and round London that next week on Thursday 11th a few fans have put together a wee B&S disco/club/convention in New Cross. entitled '200 troubled teenagers', the flyer states that it is 'an evening dedicated to the scottish group Belle & Sebastian. featuring music from all their EP's and LP's - including Tigermilk and related records.'. their will also be a music from the records of The Pastels, Nick Drake, Stereolab, Scott Walker, Francoise Hardy, Momus, The Pale Fountains, et al. the event will be at the Paradise Bar at 460 New Cross Road in London SE14 from 9pm until 2am. it's £3 to get in, or £2 with a UB40, NUS card or B&S badge/shirt. it's about two minutes walk from New Cross tube and rail station or catch the bus (53, 36, 21, 177). most of us will be there, as will james from radio 1, so if you can make it that'll be really cool. cheers david ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TheeXVirus at xxx.com Fri Mar 5 18:50:34 1999 From: TheeXVirus at xxx.com (TheeXVirus at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 13:50:34 EST Subject: Sinister: brits in u.s. Message-ID: <55a0a514.36e0277a@aol.com> someone said something a while back about the show being broadcast in the states somewhere and i wrote it down so i'd remember so it makes sense that i lost the paper i wrote on and... does anyone know the date/time/channel? thanks. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steve at xxx.uk Fri Mar 5 16:15:04 1999 From: steve at xxx.uk (Steve Genge) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:15:04 -0000 Subject: Sinister: red roses for me Message-ID: <00d201be6723$715eb120$8ee5989e@wphnvffu> It's had a bit of a face-lift! No new content, but a brave new look for the Red Roses for Me web pages. Take a look and tell us what you think. among the pages are bits and pieces about: Looper (review of the new album) Black Box Recorder Belle & Sebastian (plus live pics) Lucksmiths (plus live review/pics) Pernice Brothers Mercury Rev But there's more! Visit us at the link below. And sign the guestbook please. Reading your comments will distract me from 4 channels of miserable daytime TV. Watching Pet Rescue twice daily should be prohibited by law... Red Roses For Me Fanzine http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Cabaret/9043 On another note, all the banter lately about the virtues (or lack thereof) of a separate Jeepster list has made me think more about how important the Sinister list has been to me in the past year and a half. Never underestimate the power of Sinister, I say. You might end up with a slew of new friends, living an ocean away from home, even engaged to someone you've met via the list, like me. You just never know... beginning to pack her suitcase for her trip back home next Tuesday, Amanda x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Fri Mar 5 18:38:24 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 18:38:24 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Where is my frame? Message-ID: Following Caleb and Stephane's "steps" (take it as italics,be so kind, please...),I am going to rescue an old idea of mine I never put in practise. In the need of having some badge/t-shirt to be identified as a Sinister member when turning up Camber Sands, I am going to embroider by hand (cross-stitch, to be exact)my very personal t-shirt, but I haven't decdided which should say...All suggestions welcome. Borrowing Caleb's wit , what about : 'Camber Sands.First step'.But it doesn't mention Sinister, no, no, we need some password.Something that when people see me with my handcraft t-shirt ,it will let them know without doubt I am one of them. Fluffy, some Spanish especially for you (oh,no,quoting Waterman!): The original title of 'Dogmagnan ...etc,etc' is 'Dartacan y los tres mosqueperros'.It was made in Spain , one of my parents' neighbours was one of the animators working on it,by the way.So they were obviously different people. Really annoyed with Ticketweb.I am sure I am alone in my struggle and thousand souls support me in the darkness.The force is with me and I will pick up those f****** tickets somehow.Dartacan, where are you? Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From graeme at xxx.uk Fri Mar 5 18:48:20 1999 From: graeme at xxx.uk (Graeme Crosbie) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 18:48:20 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Looper + Brit Awards Tape Message-ID: <002e01be6738$be3311c0$db55883e@default> I've heard more than half of the Looper album now and it sounds great. NME gave it a spanky 8/10 (same as they gave TBWTAS). I taped the Brits interview on Radio 1 (Mick and Richard), the Evening Session phone call to Richard and the Looper interview on Beat Patrol if anyone wants a copy and has anything decent to trade send me a mail. Oh aye, I'm going to see Looper in Glasgow as well... and Subpop say they might be re-releasing the first single soon. Seeya Graeme graeme at cheeso.freeserve.co.uk (oh, and thanks to Honey for the very friendly tips) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From e.brown at xxx.com Fri Mar 5 19:01:40 1999 From: e.brown at xxx.com (Emanuel Brown) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 19:01:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: factionalism is not sinister Message-ID: dearest listees i am troubled by all of this list competition nonsense, finding the discussion divisive and inopportune at best. first off, big thanks to honey for restoring the list and for generally doing a helluva job. cheers babe! secondly, i want to congratulate not only jeepster for their brit stunner, but to all of us who contributed to it. we rock! we all know how good belle&sebastian are, its nice that we can express that to the rest of the world in a more tangible form. indie bands and labels have a tough row to hoe and i, for one, think jeepster has been smart in its use of the web for commerce and promotion. which, ultimately brings me to my original point. i agree wholeheartedly with both honey and david on the "sinister diss" non-issue. c'mon kids, don't be so myopic! let jeepster do what they need to do and let sinister continue to be the fan's fan-forum. jeepster did nothing wrong other than jump the gun a bit but think about it, they would be total idiots to ostracize the very foundation of their success - the fans. still to think that things will be the same after this very public award is truly naive. we've turned the proverbial corner and it will only get weirder from here. let the games begin... so there! *nyah* emanuel x o x o Free, fast e-mail accessible anytime, anywhere http://www.imaginemail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Fri Mar 5 19:29:10 1999 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksAndAJill) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 14:29:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Dusty, r.i.p. Message-ID: <199903051929.OAA54990@dept.english.upenn.edu> Sorry if this has been mentioned...though I tried to look at the subject headings for recent messages and didn't see anything too obvious. Anyway, I just wanted to take a moment and say that Dusty Springfield will be missed--an amazing voice put to some of the best songs this last half of the century has known, from "I Only Want To Be With You" right on up through "What Have I Done To Deserve This?". I'll be watching the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductions to see what they do with her--maybe Aretha will sing something in tribute. Apparently she declined to record "Son of a Preacher Man" after hearing Dusty's version. Don't know if she's recorded it since but I'm sure she's performed it. Anyway. Respect for the great White Negress, who died too young at 59. Fun fact: one of the co-writers of "I Only Want To Be With You" is the father of Simon Raymonde of the Cocteau Twins. Xavier -- BXK M o t h e r , M a y bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu I S l e e p http://www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 W i t h D a n g e r ? X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Fri Mar 5 20:15:45 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 15:15:45 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Goldfish Bowlie Message-ID: <199903051515_MC2-6CDD-6C20@compuserve.com> Hi Pop Tarts, I am in absolute awe of Mrs Murdoch, who bestrides this list like a Colossus. (And just in case you might think she's too almighty, she makes a little gender slip in the parable's fifth paragraph, so as to let us all know she's human after all.) Whilst re-reading her cautionary tale of vaulting ambition I was reminded of one of the proverbs from her earlier Confucian period: He who f**ks with honey will come to a sticky end. B&S? 1)My soul now in hock to Ticketweb, having forked out for tickets for the Weekender, Looper & The Gentle Waves recently. I beg forgiveness of anyone finding me shivering on a streetcorner - just trying to pay off the Mastercard. 2)Thanks & regards to Mr Kitchen for lengthy double list explanation/justification: I too hope for peaceful co-existence. Love to all, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From M223CMellan at xxx.uk Fri Mar 5 15:24:11 1999 From: M223CMellan at xxx.uk (M223CMellan) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 15:24:11 -0000 Subject: Sinister: My most sincere apologies Message-ID: <15231359305528@holyrood.gla.sch.uk> Hello. I spent all night in church yesterday, praying for forgiveness, for my behaviour on the list. I now realise that it was unacceptable. I didn't know what :) was - sorry. Also, sorry honey man/lady for asking answers to be mailed to the list. This was stupid of me - I just didn't think. Incidentally - these are the results which I have recieved to date (the listees were kind enough to respond to my address, and ignore my foolish mistake) - Oldest - 57 - a listees dad - can't remember who. Youngest - 16 - me. Mean age - 26 Also - Laura Kerr - to you I appologise the most - it was immature of me to mail the list, and I didn't realise that you were simply joking with me. The only defence which I can offer for my actions is the stress of exams, and teenage angst, and simply not being right in the brain (I'm insane, in the brain). I shall now only mail once a day, max. cheerio, cheerio, see ya soon. Chris Mellan CRYSTALBALLS M223CMELLAN at holyrood.gla.sch.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tton at xxx.edu Fri Mar 5 22:59:01 1999 From: tton at xxx.edu (Thaian N. Ton) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 17:59:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: brits in u.s. In-Reply-To: <55a0a514.36e0277a@aol.com> Message-ID: Hello sinisterines, > someone said something a while back about the show being broadcast in the > states somewhere and i wrote it down so i'd remember so it makes sense that i > lost the paper i wrote on and... > > does anyone know the date/time/channel? i looked this up on the abc website, it says that it'll be broadcast on saturday march 6th, 1130pm-1am. however, i would check your local listings (you can check on tvguide.com) to see, they aren't showing it in my area. enjoy. thaian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From PaperSun23 at xxx.com Sat Mar 6 00:17:37 1999 From: PaperSun23 at xxx.com (PaperSun23 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 19:17:37 EST Subject: Sinister: back from a Ben marathon Message-ID: <3a02016b.36e07421@aol.com> Dear list, First I'd like to offer some hugs for Dave's Mom. Also, I'd like to respond to Oliver regarding Ben Harper. Ben is possibly one of the best songwriters around. He's simply wonderful! Oddly enough, I just had a Ben marathon before reading that message. I suggest him to anyone who hasn't heard him. He's almost a strange mix of Bob Marley, Cat Stevens, and James Taylor. Hmmm, maybe you just need to hear him. On a sadder note, I was violently ill the past couple days. I had eaten some food that was cleverly hiding meat within its funny shaped macaronis. The minute I discovered a bone, I stopped eating it. Needless to say, I became quite ill later that evening and have just regained composure. The saddest part of the story is that I had to remove my baby blue Study at Stow shirt as I was afraid it would be ruined. hugs, Moon Patroller Carrie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Fri Mar 5 16:35:04 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 11:35:04 EST Subject: Sinister: postcards to mother Message-ID: <4e6f9f69.36e007b8@aol.com> thanks everyone for your concern for me mother.. she does feel much better, and is actually moving about.. I think we all had a good scare, mostly. love, dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Fri Mar 5 16:32:36 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 11:32:36 EST Subject: Sinister: nickelodeon cartoons Message-ID: <3605504e.36e00724@aol.com> In a message dated 3/5/99 9:55:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, katfood at telepath.com writes: << i remember watching belle and sebastian every morning before being taken to school. however, i think my favorite show was "today's special". the one with jodi, the manequin jeff, the foam security gaurd sam, the mice, and others......anyone remember this show? >> Yes. I clearly recall the episode where the heat was cut off, and they sang songs about thinking warm to maintain critical body temperature... but sam couldn't carry a tune, so they died of exposure. at least I like to think it happened that way. Today's Special was the show that my sister always wanted to watch.. that and Pinwheel. Ugh. I preferred the existentialist oddities that were foreign cartoons.. The Little Prince and Sebastian were both shrouded in ambiguity. Much like a cartoon version of the Fugitive, you were (fairly) certain that they'd survive each episode, but what would be the final outcome? Would they find their own planet/father/city of gold? Perhaps. Or perhaps not.. One never knew. The only thing that could be done was to keep travelling, and eye all shrubs as if they might be baobob trees in disguise dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hopkinstim at xxx.com Sat Mar 6 01:09:25 1999 From: hopkinstim at xxx.com (Tim Hopkins) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 17:09:25 PST Subject: Sinister: Re: das capital Message-ID: <199903060109.RAA21795@law-lfd79.hotmail.com> David, I hope you and Katrina don't see this list as something that just gives you a load of shite: that's the last thing I (and I suspect the great majority of listees) would want. This discussion is necessarly about wider issues: pop ethics and how to behave. It is my perception that people, listees, are worried about damage being done to a list which is a genuine and important part of their (our) lives. Naturally they are going to want to talk about it. I don't think anyone really cares who set the list up first, or who 'owns' it: the issue isn't about ownership or some kind of seniority, it's about community. Communities tend to react rather strongly when individuals take action which is *perceived* to threaten the wider group. The thing is that Jeepster seem to be confusing the relationship which most sinisterines have with the list and with Belle and Sebastian, which I think tends to be deeply personal amd emotional and based in communal feelings, with the relationship we have with a record company, which is a purchaser / vendor relationship, based in the world of small-scale venture capital. Your argument seems to be that people should lay off you because you work hard at your job. Or should that be because you provide a 'good service' on a commercial basis, or because what you do stands on its own merits as a self-justifying good? I have to say that of all the things I've seen over the past few weeks, the thing I've been most taken aback by was Jeepster folk suggesting that the meet ups and suchlike were part of your job of work. If all that was a *job* to you, that makes me feel a little sick. Speaking for myself, I don't feel that the relationship I have had with this community can be seen in the context of a service provided on a commercial basis. This isn't some kind of focus group. There is a perception around and about that the new list will damage sinister through dilution, through cross-posting, whatever. For myself, I think it will probably be alright, in so far as it will make it clear to all that Sinister is not an arm of Jeepster, and things will be simpler. But you seem to be putting yourself in the position of a shop saying 'you might not like the service but it's been a good service up till now so you can't really complain'. Trouble is, sinister is not a service, it's a set of relationships and, as I understand it, some feel that the process of setting up another list is some sort of disloyalty. One doesn't expect loyalty from a shop. One does expect it from friends and fellow members of a community. I should repeat that I am not suggesting that setting up a 'rival' list was an act of disloyalty, but reading the reaction on the sinister list, it seems to have been perceived that way. Jeepster is a good record company (by this I mean it is a record company which releases records by a band I like and seems to give them a high degree of artistic freedom...)but it is fundamentally a record company and we can't be surprised when it behaves like the branch of small business capitalism that it undeniably is. Which means disregarding loyalty and community in search of the greater goal: the bottom line. A classic example is that David effectively said that Jeepster couldn't afford to allow the B&S list to be an arrangement which Jeepster could not control, was not accountable to them and so alternative arrangements had to be made. Fine, but (I repeat) that I believe the people on sinister do not perceive the list as a service, and do not have the same vested interest as you do if the service goes away for a few days. It's not a matter of being uninformed about the news if the list goes down, it's more like being isolated from your mates. I (for one)don't want that relationship confused with marketing. And maybe people are unhappy because setting up a second list seemed to suggest that someone at Jeepster didn't understand the difference. I also have to say that, if communicating with sinister people was the priority, then unsubbing the news list from sinister was a very strange thing to do. One last thing (and I know I'm going on): please don't take these conversations personally. It is not unreasonable to criticise a record company from the point of view of a fan. If I do that, it doesn't necessarily mean I'm criticising you personally. If I (or whoever) disagree in public with your position, that doesn't mean I'm having a go at you or giving you shite. Looking through the sinister archives, I see a fair number of messages slagging the idea of a new list (and some for the new list) but none slagging anyone on a personal basis. If it's impossible to slag off Jeepster (or the way Jeepster behaves) without someone at Jeepster taking umbrage, then there are naturally going to be bad feelings thrown up. For the record, I like everyone I have met from Jeepster very much, you all seem to work very hard and care deeply about what you do. That surely doesn't mean I have to shut up when I disagree with what Jeepster (as a corporate entity) does. My fear is that, in this instance, the difference between bathwater and baby may be passing someone by. regards Tim ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mew817 at xxx.com Sat Mar 6 03:04:54 1999 From: Mew817 at xxx.com (Mew817 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 22:04:54 EST Subject: Sinister: Americans, Help!! Message-ID: <34f9d46a.36e09b56@aol.com> Hi everyone Ok, I'm a very sad bunny right now. I had been planning all week to watch the Brits on ABC Saturday night, well stupid WSB in Atlanta has Hard Copy and Live at the Apollo scheduled for the Brits time slot!! Is there anyone out there who will have access to watch the Brits? If so I was wondering if someone could tape it for me, or if someone is already planning on taping it, could I borrow the tape? I will think of something very nice to send you in return (although I don't have anything cool related to B&S, except maybe a photograph I took...) If anyone can help, please email me at Mew817 at aol.com Thanks in advance. Love, mew x PS- I promise I will post something happy soon as I am very happy about the new sinister, I'm just having a touch of sadness and a big dose of disappointment right now... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From giita at xxx.com Sat Mar 6 15:08:00 1999 From: giita at xxx.com (Aileen Hammond) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 07:08:00 PST Subject: Sinister: Books? Message-ID: <19990306150801.18145.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi there, I want to read a good book but my mind is blank and I don�t know any books to read... Does anyone know a good auther/book? Well I�ll be going to The Bowlie Weekender! -All the way from Iceland..It�s going to be the best.. :) Take care! Giita ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vlass at xxx.com Sat Mar 6 15:49:38 1999 From: vlass at xxx.com (vlass at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 10:49:38 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Books? Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19990306154938.00a7af04@mail.interlog.com> Giita asked: >I want to read a good book but my mind is blank and I don´t know any >books to read... Does anyone know a good auther/book? well, so happens that i asked this question to the list last march and after the overwhelming response, i compiled quite a list of sinister-recommended literature. if anyone is interested in the list email me and i'll forward it to you. if you have more book recommendations that you can't fit into your post (we don't want any "hi, read this book, bye!!!" posts, do we?) why don't you send it to me PRIVATELY (in caps like i'm supposed to!) and i'll update the list? let's say i'll take until next week for new submissions then i'll send you the new&improved list if you want it. gahh, it's snowing again here. teri xx i'm a self-indulgent twat: http://members.tripod.com/~meltingsnow/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From PaperSun23 at xxx.com Sat Mar 6 18:09:56 1999 From: PaperSun23 at xxx.com (PaperSun23 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 13:09:56 EST Subject: Sinister: ! Message-ID: Not that this has anything to do with Belle and Sebastian but I have to spread the joy... for it is the mighty David Gilmour's birthday today! He is 53. Hug someone you know! a very cheery, Moon Patroller Carrie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Montesory at xxx.com Sat Mar 6 18:31:16 1999 From: Montesory at xxx.com (Montesory at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 13:31:16 EST Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V3 #73 Message-ID: <136993c.36e17474@aol.com> In a message dated 99-03-06 06:35:06 EST, you write: << I was just wondering if any of you have made 'spring's resolutions'. I did. >> Yeah, I promised myself I wouldn't be so wasteful anymore so there I'm going to start using one cube of toilet paper to wipe my ass, blow my nose and dry the insides of my ears after I shower. JoeySLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Montesory at xxx.com Sat Mar 6 18:33:20 1999 From: Montesory at xxx.com (Montesory at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 13:33:20 EST Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V3 #73 Message-ID: In a message dated 99-03-06 06:35:06 EST, you write: << If Jeepster suddenly started charging a premium for Belle & Sebastian albums, what would we all do? >> Cry until our noses ran and then wipe them on our cardigans. JoeySLEEEEEEEEEE +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Sat Mar 6 19:23:58 1999 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 14:23:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: amateurs Message-ID: i just got back from a screening of amateur, the 1994 hal hartley film. if we're talking about cartoons for the billionth time (mind you, i watched the b&s cartoon as a child and loved it, and know nobody did it on purpose, but this is at least the third time it's been a thread) then we can mention hal hartley. it's so beautiful. i wanted to cry at the end, but i was too sad. i ended up walking home in a daze, which was partially aided by the fact that one of my contacts had fallen out earlier so one eye was blurred anyway. so basically, my advice is to see this movie. kind of the film equivalent to belle and sebastian songs, in my opinion. his latest film was shot on digital video for french tv and is called the book of life. p.j. harvey plays mary magdalene and yo la tengo play something too. not sure what. and how can you resist a film with roles like mormon thug #1? i haven' tseen it yet though, there was a screening on tuesday but it was all sold out so i cried a lot, oh wait, no i didn't. i just sat home and watched felicity. m'i bad. anyway, i also found out some belle and sebastian related information, more related then my other tenuous connections anyway. acid house, the film which featured b&s on the soundtrack, will be premiering in new york on march 10 at the anthology film archive. it's opening night of the ny underground film festival, so it will probably sell out. all right, that's pretty much all i know. not much going on in the music front that i know of these days, all the cool stuff seems to be happening in the uk, which is sadly distant from me. but oh well, i have my movies to escape into (and it's hard to feel too sorry for yourself when you live in the city ;). xoxo megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the NEWLY UPDATEDmagnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Sat Mar 6 19:51:11 1999 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake E Hamilton) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 14:51:11 -0500 Subject: Sinister: ! Message-ID: <000a01be680a$b0801be0$6e1574cc@woody> >Not that this has anything to do with Belle and Sebastian but I have to spread >the joy... for it is the mighty David Gilmour's birthday today! He is 53. >Hug someone you know! Yes, indeed Happy Birthday Dave, and I am sorry to inform the list that it seems as though we've forgotten Roger Daltrey's birthday! I'm behind on reading posts, so if someone did in fact mention it, I am at fault. Twas last week, either the 1st or 2nd or the 3rd of March. He was 55. The kids are alright, still. -blake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TheeXVirus at xxx.com Sat Mar 6 21:02:34 1999 From: TheeXVirus at xxx.com (TheeXVirus at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 16:02:34 EST Subject: Sinister: Books? Message-ID: some of my favorites have been the neverending story by michael ende, sleeping in flame by jonathan carroll, elena of the stars by c.p. rosenthal and neil gaiman's smoke and mirrors. spelling of the authors names and the titles should be pretty close. if anyone has any other books by c.p. rosenthal (i think they all have 'loops' in the name....loops end loops progress etc.) i want 'em. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From PaperSun23 at xxx.com Sun Mar 7 04:20:56 1999 From: PaperSun23 at xxx.com (PaperSun23 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 23:20:56 EST Subject: Sinister: ! Message-ID: <5c8c9190.36e1fea8@aol.com> In response to Blake's post regarding Roger Daltry's birthday, he indeed turned 55 on the first of March! More reason to hug someone you know! Moon Patroller Carrie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Sun Mar 7 04:31:03 1999 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 23:31:03 EST Subject: Sinister: Brit awards on ABC 2nite in Chicago (that's USA folkes) Message-ID: <229b4daa.36e20107@aol.com> Should I expect a B&S performance or not on this taped affair? Probably not, huh? Just the usual award acceptance and speech? Pete +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Sun Mar 7 11:22:41 1999 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Fluffy Sarah) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 11:22:41 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Fotherington-Thomas is a wet and a weed and I shun him utterly. In-Reply-To: <19990305094958.15979.qmail@hotmail.com> References: <19990305094958.15979.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <7EaW2AABGm42EwHf@elsato97.demon.co.uk> hello! Stuart David gets his name written on poncey poetry in Underground stations??? This world is crazy! What is the world coming to!!! Ooh but that reminds me that I must say: Impossible things are all our dreams a moment of existence hoped for all time the beauty of the rose ever young and eternal the laugh of the child ever innocent and joyous. I don't know where that quote came from, but my friend ROSS THE GOTH wrote it on my file, after seeing the words "Impossible Things" on it. He didn't write a flowery quote concerning the other thing written on my file, this being "Feb 26th Duration Assignment deadline oh NO"... but if anyone knows where it comes from let me know. I hope its not from Nine Inch Flippin' Nails. He also wrote "Conformity is the straitjacket of the development society". He'd know all about that, being a dead individual goth... hem hem. Chris "crystal balls" whatever the hell your last name is, congrats on being the youngest'n'all... I miss Jong and Bethey myself. If you're still on the list POST one of you two and be all cute and winsome. Aren't the little ones CUTE! I remember back in dem days... Keith and Sister Disco!!! But mostly Keith because I want him to post. I like a song by The Who that is on my tape twee. Tell me if it is SIXTIES Who or SEVENTIES W!H!O!. It's called 'I can't reach you'. Which is quite telling, cos I literally "can't reach" (is that a pun? or a simile? god knows) the person who put it on my tape twee. Which is you Mr Ed Mason. emason at move.u-net.com ?? Warrender!!! Hooray!!! Shout TU MADRE ES UN PUTA!!!! There you go. Or shout HUELO DE BRAGAS DE LAS SENORAS VIEJAS!! Which may not be the right Spanish but I'd giggle if I heard you shouting that anyway. EVERYONE should wear an I LOVE MICK COOKE tshirt to Camber Sands. I will! I love him... *sighs happily* I'm so glad he's alive... I don't love him in a coo, um, gosh golly wouldn't kick him out of bed for eating toast way... I just love him in the way that I'd love to buy him a drink and gaze upon the lovely bequiffed face and ponder why it is I think he looks like a Wurzel when he OBVIOUSLY doesn't. Wierd that. I've got a friend who REALLY reminds me of Mariella Frostrup, but looks NOTHING like her. Thats just the sheer madcap life I lead eh readers? I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Sarah http://www.elsato97.demon.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk Sun Mar 7 11:56:47 1999 From: pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk (Pamela Hutchinson) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 11:56:47 +0000 Subject: Sinister: books Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From tzuckerman at xxx.edu Sun Mar 7 08:26:01 1999 From: tzuckerman at xxx.edu (The Trainspotter) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 03:26:01 -0500 Subject: Sinister: no B&S (smart to put that isn't it?) - yes it is... boston reply Message-ID: <014e01be6874$248a6fe0$ee985ed1@jubilee> and which boston "mod" nite did you attend? the friday nite or wednesday nite? because if you went on friday nite - that is not mod nite it's britpop nite - n. station - causeway - the pill? upstairs? the "mod" nite is on wednesdays at the common ground. i'm assuming you went to britpop nite at the pill because you say ms/mr dj which that is - the common ground has one male dj, dj vin. -ms. teri (you'll find her there...) anyone from providence on the list? can someone tell me why no one knows their city there? also, who is going to the smog, otc, sfa, holly golightly shows in boston this month... 24 hours til my birthday. http://hampshire.edu/~tdzF94/ - Inspired by the writings of the eighteeth century Venetian gambler, eroticist and spy. "The day didn't go too well. Too many chocolates and cigarettes, I kept thinking of you and almost walking into lampposts." Pulp -----Original Message----- From: FourJacksAndAJill To: sinister at Majordomo.net Date: Saturday, March 06, 1999 7:40 AM Subject: Sinister: Thought you could hide from me, did ya?:) >Well, I've finally found the Sinister list (page) again after a rather >X-Files like disappearance without a trace from the usual phedacky site. >Thanks to Honey for answering my desperate cry for help on the indiepop >list. > >I had a nice business trip up to Boston a couple of weeks ago where I saw >_Rushmore_ (totally classic, reminded me immensely of _Harold and Maude_ >but not quite as sad, but still very life-affirming) and attended pretty >lame "mod" night, which was actually way more Britpop. Which is fine, but >durnit, if you're gonna call it a mod night play more '60s stuff Mr./Ms. >DJ! Oh well, they did play the original "Tainted Love" which was great. > >Also whilst in Boston I bought two Felt CDs that they had at the HMV at >Harvard/Brattley Square..._Forever Breathes The Lonely Word_ and _The >Strange Idols Pattern/Ignite The Seven Cannons_. They are amazing. Get >them, if you want some Felt. Now I just have to find _Poem of the >River_... > >Nice to see Pam on the list again, though I wasn't on it when she was >first around. Hi Pam, say hi to Powell for me! > >All right then. I was feeling a little out of whack for a while there, >but now that I got my Sinister archives (with a lovely lavender >background...I like what you've done with the place Honey!) I can go back >to being really, *really* unproductive at work. > >Xavier >-- >BXK M o t h e r , M a y >bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu I S l e e p >http://www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 W i t h D a n g e r ? >X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lyricjunkie at xxx.com Sun Mar 7 13:20:10 1999 From: lyricjunkie at xxx.com (headrush city) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 05:20:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister:Bunch of Loopers Message-ID: <19990307132010.8051.rocketmail@web309.yahoomail.com> Hello people. Enjoying your Sunday? I feel cheated if I don't get a lazy Sunday cos they are, after all, meant for doing all the nothing you didn't have time to do during the week. Looper are in last week's NME, in the On section for new bands. Some extracts for your delectation: ~~*~"The songs come from things that have happened to us, from watching Colombo, things we do during the day," says Stuart. "It's playful, like constructing things out of cardboard boxes when you're young." Given Stuart's other band conducts itself like a covert organisation, it's caused some amazement that Looper is an open house. It talks. He smiles. "I did most of the Belle & Sebastian interviews at the start, quite a lot with Stuart (M) as well before it all got crazy and out of hand. Stuart doesn't do interviews because..." he thinks carefully. "Because he chooses not to. Then everyone else in the band stopped because it's hard to answer a lot of these questions if you don't know where the songs come from." How do Belle & Sebastian feel about Looper? "Everyone was doing other stuff first," says Stuart. "They always come when we do shows and stuff - I think they enjoy it, because they always come back." For now, it's a side-project at the centre of their lives. "I spend more time on Looper just now than I do playing bass for Belle & Sebastian," says Stuart. "And we've got a contract for two albums." Karn smiles, and turns to look at him. "And we got married," she laughs.~*~ Has anyone else ever started crying, and then it's as if there's a leak in your tear ducts, and you're like, when did I manage to store up all this sadness, where did all this come from? No? Oh well then. Love and fireworks, Natasha xx == "Here comes a soul saver on your record player" The Charlatans _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Sun Mar 7 14:37:10 1999 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 14:37:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Books? References: <19990306150801.18145.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <36E28F16.EE57EEF8@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> This is my favourite books: "Pulp" by Charles Bukowski "The great Gatsby" F.S.Fitgerald "the underground" Jack Kerouack "ask the dust" John Fante "cent'anni di solitudine" Gabriel Garcia Marquez. cheers, Marco#7. Aileen Hammond ha scritto: > Hi there, > I want to read a good book but my mind is blank and I don´t know any > books to read... Does anyone know a good auther/book? > > Well I´ll be going to The Bowlie Weekender! -All the way from > Iceland..It´s going to be the best.. :) > > Take care! > > Giita > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Sun Mar 7 15:51:53 1999 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick * Sandcastle Records) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 10:51:53 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Brits Gyp and Other Strange Stories Message-ID: <36E2A099.C205E47E@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Hm... I have a feeling that "gyp" is not the proper way to spell the word I was looking for. However, "gype" looked even worse. Regardless, I'm looking for a word which expresses my feeling of having been taken for a ride by ABC. Yes, they pretty much entirely left out B&S from the ceremonies. Well, not just pretty much, they didn't even mention them. Perhaps the reason they didn't have time was they spent 5 minutes in an interview with the Eurhythmics (grrr). Oh well, I showed them, I didn't even watch it, really, except for a couple of times. The rest of the time I was listening and doing something else. Is the Looper album really out on Tuesday? It seems too soon. Right, here's a question: if Ronnie Black is Stuart David's brother, why do they have different last names? Could it be they're only half-brothers? OR does it mean one of them has taken a stage name, like Captain Sensible (my personal favorite stage name). Did anyone else notice Pavement is no longer on the bill for the Bowlie Weekender? I guess that's why they were "T.oo B.e C.onfirmed." For me it's just as well, because unless an airline practically gave me a ticket, I couldn't afford to go (too many visits too Magnetic Megan). If I did go, I'd most likely be found in the arcade when Pavement were playing, much like I was when "Couples Skate," would come on. Hm, oh I've got a couple more questions. I know they're a lot, but look how on-content I am! Okay, it's about B&S webpages. Whatever happened to the band-updated webpage? I mean, it's there, but it hasn't been updated in goodness knows how long. Is it mothballed, then? And lastly, has anyone heard of a band called Arco? Alright then, I'm going! I've got to take some pictures of children reading books in a library... /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick/Sandcastle Records <<->> bp224996 at ohiou.edu \ / Sandcastle Records Homepage: ICQ#5056758 | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972 | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | -Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rodbegbie at xxx.com Sun Mar 7 18:21:51 1999 From: rodbegbie at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 10:21:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: More colonic irrigation than you can shake a stick at Message-ID: <19990307182151.16068.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> Hey Shinishtersh! Is there any kind of organised meet-up on Friday for the Looperthang? Cause I'll be in Embra that evening. Almost got myself my own PC, so soon there will be no more Roddcam sightings, and I'll be able to read/post from the privacy of my own brain. I know you're all looking forward to that really. I, too, am rather peeved about the distinct lack of B&Sesque coverage on the Brits last night. Cause I was going to tape A Clockwork Orange, but didn't. Bums! Teri Trainspotter -- I'll see you on the 22nd and the 1st, then. I'll Be The One In The Helen Love T-Shirt.[1] I am collecting "nun" jokes. Currently I have ones with the punchlines: * Liquid Soap * I'm not gargling with it after she's stuck her arse in it * Piss off Dracula, I'm not in the mood right now * Yes it does, doesn't it. * The third one couldn't reach * We're coming back this way, aren't we? If you know of any more, please let me know. Rod. [1] "I'll Be The One In The Helen Love T-Shirt" is a registered trademark of Rod Begbie. As is "Excuse me mate, have you got any Jive Bunny?" == -- Rod Begbie - rod at begbie.com - http://www.begbie.com -- "Me fail English? That's unpossible!" _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Sun Mar 7 19:25:54 1999 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake E Hamilton) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 14:25:54 -0500 Subject: Sinister: I'm a Slip Kid Slip Kid, second generation... Message-ID: <006d01be68d0$52b914a0$4c1674cc@woody> This message is written for our very own Fluffy Sarah Being the biggest Who freak around, the song you are indeed questioning is "I Can't Reach You", which appeared on the 1968 epic "The Who Sell Out", which is a very overlooked album, in my sultry opinion. The expanded remastered edition of it is superb. It's an album that pokes fun at psychdelic whimsy and of course, the BBC, while touching on a subject that is everywhere today--selling out for money, sponsors, et al. Great song, getting back to the point--Pete didn't write that type of a love song until the early 80s. B&S (semi) content--No Brits on ABC yesterday! I was disappointed, so i cried into a bandana and now it's all dry and it smells like a tulip. Being down here in Hilton Head, South Carolina, the weather is steamy so my Spring Break is a bit surreal. Everyone stay warm and pretend you're a butterfly. Works for me. -blake -----Original Message----- From: Fluffy Sarah To: sinister at Majordomo.net Date: Sunday, March 07, 1999 6:24 AM Subject: Sinister: Fotherington-Thomas is a wet and a weed and I shun him utterly. >hello! > >Stuart David gets his name written on poncey poetry in Underground >stations??? This world is crazy! What is the world coming to!!! Ooh but >that reminds me that I must say: > >Impossible things are all our dreams >a moment of existence hoped for all time >the beauty of the rose >ever young and eternal >the laugh of the child >ever innocent and joyous. > >I don't know where that quote came from, but my friend ROSS THE GOTH >wrote it on my file, after seeing the words "Impossible Things" on it. >He didn't write a flowery quote concerning the other thing written on my >file, this being "Feb 26th Duration Assignment deadline oh NO"... but if >anyone knows where it comes from let me know. I hope its not from Nine >Inch Flippin' Nails. > >He also wrote "Conformity is the straitjacket of the development >society". He'd know all about that, being a dead individual goth... hem >hem. > >Chris "crystal balls" whatever the hell your last name is, congrats on >being the youngest'n'all... I miss Jong and Bethey myself. If you're >still on the list POST one of you two and be all cute and winsome. >Aren't the little ones CUTE! I remember back in dem days... > >Keith and Sister Disco!!! But mostly Keith because I want him to post. I >like a song by The Who that is on my tape twee. Tell me if it is SIXTIES >Who or SEVENTIES W!H!O!. It's called 'I can't reach you'. Which is quite >telling, cos I literally "can't reach" (is that a pun? or a simile? god >knows) the person who put it on my tape twee. Which is you Mr Ed Mason. >emason at move.u-net.com ?? > >Warrender!!! Hooray!!! Shout TU MADRE ES UN PUTA!!!! There you go. Or >shout HUELO DE BRAGAS DE LAS SENORAS VIEJAS!! Which may not be the right >Spanish but I'd giggle if I heard you shouting that anyway. > >EVERYONE should wear an I LOVE MICK COOKE tshirt to Camber Sands. I >will! I love him... *sighs happily* I'm so glad he's alive... I don't >love him in a coo, um, gosh golly wouldn't kick him out of bed for >eating toast way... I just love him in the way that I'd love to buy him >a drink and gaze upon the lovely bequiffed face and ponder why it is I >think he looks like a Wurzel when he OBVIOUSLY doesn't. > >Wierd that. I've got a friend who REALLY reminds me of Mariella >Frostrup, but looks NOTHING like her. Thats just the sheer madcap life I >lead eh readers? >I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! >Fluffy Sarah > >http://www.elsato97.demon.co.uk >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Sun Mar 7 20:51:43 1999 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 14:51:43 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: re: if you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding In-Reply-To: <3a02016b.36e07421@aol.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Mar 1999 PaperSun23 at aol.com wrote: > On a sadder note, I was violently ill the past couple days. I had eaten some > food that was cleverly hiding meat within its funny shaped macaronis. The > minute I discovered a bone, I stopped eating it. Needless to say, I became > quite ill later that evening [...] Was this due to the meat itself, or was the food just plain bad? If there was only one piece of wisdom to be learned from the character Al Bundy from Married With Children it was this: Peggy got a personal trainer. Instead of the trainer whipping her into shape, Peggy taught him all her bad habits like sitting on the couch all day eating bon-bons. The trainer soon died. Al Bundy pointed out the cause of death was the trainer's healthy lifestyle. When finally called upon to digest the junk that so many people call food, his body was unable to cope. That's one of the reasons I continue to eat meat, though not much. I would like to retain the ability to digest it. Who knows, I might one day have no choice for survival but to kill and eat an elk -- cooked on a fire I started by rubbing sticks together. (By the way, that show was always offensive, but it was not lame until several years into its run. It was a guilty pleasure.) --Mark __ Burning Rome : SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 > Distributed by Dutch East India Trading, Com Four, and Carrot Top < < http://www.xnet.com/~mkolmar/BurningRome > < MP3 & RealAudio tracks > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steve at xxx.uk Sun Mar 7 21:36:21 1999 From: steve at xxx.uk (Steve Genge) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 21:36:21 -0000 Subject: Sinister: sooooooper looooooper Message-ID: <005701be68e2$8d20fec0$8ee5989e@wphnvffu> MY GOD they were brilliant. I was relieved it all went without a hitch, having arranged the whole thing. But when Looper played Borders today it was an utterly fabulous performance. The atmosphere was like being in someone's living room, with the band playing for just a select few. Stuart's stories sounded perfectly suspended over the backing beats (and Ronnie's guitar) and Karn's images made the whole thing a delicious multimedia feast. IF YOU CAN GO SEE LOOPER, DO IT! And Karn and Ronnie and Stuart are delightful folks. They even had a chat with us post-gig, which will be posted to the Red Roses site (in interview form) along with a proper review of the in-store performance as soon as we get around to it. :) if you were there today, that was me who (feebly) introduced them. and remember, there are 20 AUTOGRAPHED copies of the album for sale at Borders Brighton starting at 8AM tomorrow! hope everyone else had as superb a time as we did. cheers, Amanda & Steve "Pain and beauty, our constant bedfellows." Sabine Strohem steve at seahorses.demon.co.uk Red Roses For Me Fanzine http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Cabaret/9043 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Sun Mar 7 21:46:56 1999 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 15:46:56 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: Re: das capital Message-ID: I mailed this to someone at Jeepster. Since discussion on this topic is ongoing, I thought I should forward it to Sinister. --Mark ---------- Forwarded message ---------- I think the label is too involved in discussion among fans. That is at the core of the bootleg issues we've talked about, as well as the awards problem. It's a fine line between keeping in touch with the fans, and not knowing when to mind your own business. The former is a wonderful thing that I appreciate. Even just that it shows that you are, above all, fans. But the latter can cause trouble. To host a discussion list, rather than a news list, I think is to be too involved. The community can and probably should organize itself without your involvement. You would have been able to solve the dilemma with a news list. The domain and the rest of it all seems perfectly reasonable. --Mark +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TheeXVirus at xxx.com Mon Mar 8 01:01:55 1999 From: TheeXVirus at xxx.com (TheeXVirus at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 20:01:55 EST Subject: Sinister: no mention of kubrick Message-ID: <8a6afb5d.36e32183@aol.com> Seemed kind of strange to me that noone has made any mention of this here...or any of the other mailing lists which i have to stumble through every day...maybe it wasn't in todays paper or something. hopefully this is typed so it can be read by anyone who's interested, it's all bolded and different fonted and stuff... Director Stanley Kubrick Dies Director of '2001: A Space Odyssey,' 'A Clockwork Orange,' Dead at Age 70 By ROBERT BARR .c The Associated Press LONDON (March 7) - Stanley Kubrick, the director of ''2001: A Space Odyssey'' and ''A Clockwork Orange,'' whose films often puzzled and shocked audiences only to end up as classics, died Sunday at his home in England, his family said. He was 70. Police were summoned to Kubrick's rural home north of London on Sunday afternoon, said authorities in Hertfordshire, where he was certified dead. ''There are no suspicious circumstances,'' police said. Kubrick's family announced his death, and said there would be no further comment. Kubrick's films included ''Spartacus'' in 1960, ''Lolita'' in 1962, ''Dr. Strangelove,'' in 1964, ''2001'' in 1968 and ''A Clockwork Orange'' in 1971. He also made ''Barry Lyndon,'' released in 1975, ''The Shining'' in 1978 and ''Full Metal Jacket'' in 1987. Malcolm McDowell, who starred in ''A Clockwork Orange,'' issued a statement through his publicist calling Kubrick ''a heavyweight of my life.'' ''He was the last great director of that era. He was the big daddy,'' said McDowell. His latest film, ''Eyes Wide Shut,'' is still slated for release on July 16, Warner Bros. said Sunday. Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman star in the story of jealousy and obsession, which Kubrick made in great secrecy. ''He was like family to us and we are in shock and devastated,'' Cruise and Kidman said in a statement released by their publicist. Kubrick was born July 26, 1928, in New York. At 17, he was hired as a staff photographer by Look magazine, which had been impressed by a picture Kubrick had snapped on the day President Franklin D. Roosevelt died. While working at Look, he studied film by attending screenings at the Museum of Modern Art. ''I was aware that I didn't know anything about making films, but I believed I couldn't make them any worse than the majority of films I was seeing. Bad films gave me the courage to try making a movie,'' Kubrick once said. In 1951, he sold a 16-minute short documentary about a boxer, ''Day of the Fight,'' to the RKO film studio. Kubrick was drafted by actor Kirk Douglas into the film ''Spartacus'' when the production - then the most expensive ever mounted in the United States - ran into trouble. The film, about a slave revolt in ancient Rome, included some footage shot by the original director, Anthony Mann, and Kubrick did not regard the finished product as a great success. ''I tried with only limited success to make the film as real as possible but I was up against a pretty dumb script which was rarely faithful to what is known about Spartacus,'' Kubrick told an interviewer. ''Lolita,'' starring James Mason and Shelley Winters, was based on Vladimir Nabokov's controversial novel about a professor who is sexually obsessed with a 12-year-old girl. The work was filmed in Britain, in part because of censorship problems, and thereafter Kubrick was based in Britain. ''Dr. Strangelove,'' starring Peter Sellers and George C. Scott, was a black comedy about nuclear war released in the early '60s during a period of great fears over the bomb and Cold War tensions. ''2001,'' a science fiction film about the evolution of man and humanity's place in the universe, used dazzling visual imagery and an inspired use of music that proved to be a great success for Kubrick. In an interview with Playboy magazine, Kubrick said he had ''tried to create a visual experience, one that bypasses verbalized pigeonholing and directly penetrates the subconscious with an emotional and philosophic content ... just as music does. ... You're free to speculate as you wish about the philosophical and allegorical meaning.'' ''A Clockwork Orange,'' set in a violent future, is a graphic film about a young thug who carries out rapes and beatings before being sent to prison where he is brainwashed. The film was one of Kubrick's most controversial - it was even disparaged by Anthony Burgess, whose novel was the basis of the film, and Kubrick eventually removed it from screens in Britain. One of Kubrick's memorable touches was to have his hero sing ''Singin' in the Rain'' while dishing out a brutal beating. Kubrick married Suzanne Harlan in 1958, and they had three daughters. Details about funeral arrangements were not immediately available. AP-NY-03-07-99 1524EST Copyright 1999 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Mon Mar 8 04:52:36 1999 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 23:52:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: new york picnic Message-ID: i hearby call for another nyc picnic. it should be in april, or some other time that will be reasonably warm and before i leave for the summer, and not too close to the bowlie weekender so at least a few people will show up. i wouldn't mind organizing it, but if i did matt would boycott so someone else should lead, or we could do a committee type thing. but i feel like i've been hibernating long enough and want to get outside in the light and the warmth and sit on a blanket and wreck some bicycles. xoxox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the NEWLY UPDATEDmagnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ar981611 at xxx.uk Mon Mar 8 13:17:13 1999 From: ar981611 at xxx.uk (Ailsa Ross) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 13:17:13 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Help me!!! Message-ID: <36E3CDD9.894FC724@student.paisley.ac.uk> Very little B & S content I am afraid, but please read on as I would be most grateful for any assistance. As part of my MSc course I have to conduct a piece of research into some aspect of business and computerisation. What I propose to research is the growth of the Net-based music industry and the implications for the conventional industry (record companies, record stores etc) and also for the fans. If any of you (and I know there are some of you) could help me by letting me know your views on this, I will love you lots and possibly buy you a pint if you are going to Camber Sands. I am thinking in particular of on-line record shopping, why it is better (or not) than going down to your local friendly indie store/corporate big bloke, what your views are on, say, the idea people had a while back about making Tigermilk available for download when it didn't look like it was going to be re-released. If anyone has a personal interest in the way that the music industry is going (say, in a band, PR, working for a record company or whatever) I would be grateful if you could get in touch so that I can pick your brains in detail at a later date. But any randon thoughts on the matter would be most appreciated too, as I want to look at it from the perspective of the average punter as well as from within the industry. Remember the golden rule about this, kids, POST TO ME AND NOT TO THE LIST!!!! On another matter, for those in the UK with satellite TV, FilmFour seem to be showing a few Hal Hartley films this week. Perhaps there will be a season of Stanley Kubrick films on soon too...it's always a shame that someone has to die before you get their films on the telly. Stanley Kubrick and Dusty Springfield, it hasn't been a good week, has it? If anyone is going to the Looper thing in Glasgow I will see you there. What with this, the fact that I should have a ticket for the Gentle Waves by now, and Camber Sands, it's going to be a right good couple of months for me anyway (if you ignore all the university work I have to do). Have people thought about how they are getting to Camber Sands, and is anyone wanting to do something in London on the Thursday night? Oh, and have any of you volunteered to be a documentary? You could become the new Maureen Rees/Jane McDonald/Jeremy Spake you know! (Apologies for cultural reference of no relevance whatsoever to anyone from outside the UK/with any taste). Well I think that's enough from me for now. Take care and keep smiling, all of you. Ailsa xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pamelab at xxx.com Mon Mar 8 09:42:38 1999 From: pamelab at xxx.com (pamela berry) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 09:42:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: only a tenner to get to bowlie in style Message-ID: <36E39B8E.93994E0D@mcmail.com> good morning everyone! hope you all had a stellar weekend. mine started off friday night on the perfect foot with a short trip to london bridge and ace very olde pub the george. beers were drunk in the company of mostly sinister folk, where I had the pleasure of meeting jen from the land of cheese, wisconsin, usa. the weekend ended on a more annoying but still dairy-filled note, with the sunday night rerun of never mind the buzzcocks proving my suspicions that billie is dumb as cheese. it all comes down to cheese, which is normally my life slogan, but not on this day. this day, my life slogan is... BOWLIE OR BUST ON A DOUBLE DECKER BUS! here's the thing. I'm a big fan of the double decker red bus, and who isn't? so I looked into how much it would be to charter one so a bunch of fest-goers could travel in style from london to camber sands and back again, and as it turns out, it's really affordable! cheaper than the train, even. plus I figure it'll be a lot more fun to travel down with a bunch of people! the bus will leave london friday noon, so if you live in/near london, or happen to be stopping over in london from a faraway place before you head down to bowlie, I hope you'll keep this double decker bus option in mind. david tells me that sunday the beats don't stop till the break of dawn, so the return bus will leave camber sands monday morning, alarmingly soon after the break of dawn, in fact. THE DETAILS each person pays just £10 for a roundtrip journey. I've paid the fee in advance like the nice man asked, so you can pay me on the bus. paying half for a one-way journey is sadly not an option, but when you board the bus I'll give you a handcrafted numbered ticket of some sort made with love by yours truly. so if you can't come back on monday morning with everyone else, you can sell or give away your bus ticket to a fellow camber sandser in need. for example, if vic godard was to fall completely under my spell over the weekend my monday travel plans might very well need some amending, and I would then sell my bus ticket to his current (I mean ex!) beau. just an example, you understand. the bus departs friday april 23 at noon from victoria station which can be found on yep, the victoria line. exit victoria so that you're facing the bus terminal, hang a right onto wilton, walk two or three steps and behold the appollo victoria theatre. our bus should be waiting out front. the bus returns from camber sands monday april 26, departing at the ungodly hour of 10am sharp. whispering, hair of the dog, and cuke slices on the eyes will be welcomed but not enforced. the bus holds 73, but there's only going to be sign-up room for 68 as i figure we'll need that long 5-seater space in the back lower level for both kinds of suitcases: beer and (light!) luggage transport. e-mail me at pamelab at mcmail.com to reserve a space! the bus man now has all my money plus statutory rights to my liver (guess who's getting the short end of that stick) so please only reserve if you're sure you can make it, I'm too broke to eat the cost of no-shows! cheers, pam +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sanangel22 at xxx.com Mon Mar 8 14:55:29 1999 From: sanangel22 at xxx.com (Jarrod San Angel) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 06:55:29 PST Subject: Sinister: Alone in the City of Angels Message-ID: <19990308145530.22843.qmail@hotmail.com> Bon Jour * Guten Tag * Aloha * G'day * Assalam Alaikum * Buenas Dias Hear Ye, Hear Ye dearest lovelies: there exists a staunch & stalwart Belle & Sebastian afficianado amidst the ruins of this nation's great cultural wasteland we so fondly call the City of (Fallen) Angels - Los Angeles.. alas! alack! Woe, oh woe is me! For I fear I must be alone with this great secret of B&S.. No one - and I mean NO ONE seems to ever speak of them - or know of there existance at all, for that matter.. Last November, when I trekked all the way to darling NYC to see our precious ones at the Supper Club, everyone I encountered and told the tale to asked, "You flew to NY to see WHO..???" Tears stream quietly down this lonely boy's cheeks.. I NEED B&S companionship here in LA, dammit! Why isn't anyone organizing picnics and get-togethers out here..? Am I, as I dreadfully suspect, the Lone Belle & Sebastian fan of LA..? God forbid... So I leave it up to you to inform me of the others.. answer my prayers and let yourself be none, my pretties.. And oh, by the way, my name is Jarrod San Angel, I'm 22, into everything wonderful, and a former Smiths junkie.. Hope to hear from you all very soon. JaRrOd ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lee at xxx.uk Mon Mar 8 15:33:04 1999 From: lee at xxx.uk (Lee) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 15:33:04 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Metal Top Ten (no B&S) Message-ID: <000b01be697b$fc5252a0$917138d4@bentley> Lee whispers, MAIL ME PRIVATELY PLEASE (of course you all knew that) Can anyone who watched the Metal Top Ten tell me the Top Two. My video ran out of tape when Lemmy got to No.2 and I cant think of any band that sold buckets of records, who was it? It's probably really obvious, my minds a blank. Put me out of my misery please. I can guess that Led Zep where No.1, I guess they were sort of metal for a while. And I don't suppose anyone could tell me what Lemmy was saying, I didn't catch a word! thanks, lee. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Mar 8 14:03:17 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 15:03:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Miseducation of Bernard Hill Message-ID: <01be696c$6ab3b820$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Warrander John's presence in Madrid certainly seems to have brought about a turnaround in their flailing football fortunes of late. In the 86th minute, a huge Aberdonian streaker did a fifty metre dash across the pitch, before being roughly manhandled to the ground by his wife. All of which inspired the Madrid boys to a last gasp winner. Scenes of jubilation ensued. Recently, we've all seen what sinister people power can do, and I think we were all suitably astonished. Some might say that it would be better to leave well alone, but a life without risks is like a meal without cheese. Before the last B&S album was released, I led a solitary campaign to get them to leave out all the gaps between songs. The outcome of this was a rather neat segue between dreams Space Boy and Dirty. If one man can achieve such a result, imagine what would happen if we all bombarded the B&S nerve centre with a special request for the next album! What I want to hear is a really horrible guitar solo overdubbed in the middle of each track, so horrible that no one can bloody stand it. I suggest "Coronarias Redig" by Deep Purple as a suitable model. This will be especially good because the new album will probably have a sticker on it saying "Brits Winners" on the front, the effects of which will be cancelled out by word of mouth about the horrible guitar solos. It's a winner. Send your request on the back of a sealed down envelope to: Neil the Manager, Belle and Sebastian, Glasgow, Scotland, England. According to disc jockey Andy Kershaw, indie pop is a forerunner of bhangra beat. Finally, today is International Working Women's Day, so a big shout to all the working birds on the list. Sister Disco PS: Which reminds me, it's sixties WHO, Fluffy. But very good nevertheless. It's on The WHO Sell Out, which is quite a tasteful album all round, and the CD version has about 186 bonus tracks on it, all of them well up to scratch. Isn't that France Gall on the back cover? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pulpbot at xxx.com Mon Mar 8 04:17:38 1999 From: Pulpbot at xxx.com (Pulpbot at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 23:17:38 EST Subject: Sinister: and the award for best Latino gardener goes to Message-ID: <64709ee.36e34f62@aol.com> Well I'm not so displeased that my local ABC opted to show the new "Dukes of Hazard" revamp starring Scott Baio and Chris Cornell as the boys and Jarvis Cocker as Boss Hog instead of the Brits as the edited highlights were apparently about as valuable as the Euro. Whoever recommended reading "Ask the Dust" is my new best friend. Such a sadly unknown writer! Oh, and I love Frederick Exley's "A Fan's Notes." One of the best books about failure. And since I missed the brief Oscar discussion last week or so as my computer was throwing up meanness, I'd like to give my own predictions for this, my absolute favorite television-related night of the year: Okay, you're a dick if you don't like the Thin Red Line and don't want it to win. Velvet Goldmine and Rushmore shoulda both been nominated for everything. Judi Dench and Kathy Bates are acid queens. My boyfriend Ralph Fiennes isn't nominated for anything, which automatically makes it a sad, bad year. Pleasantville is underrated, if only for the amazing scene when the tree bursts into flames the first time Joan Allen comes (feminist moment of this sorry year when Gwynny Paltrow and Cate Blanchett both get dissed by a lesser Fiennes). Ed Harris' character is called, um, Christof? Oh, hi, lame metaphor from ninth-grade English. Next. I'd like to see Affliction very much. Saving Private Ryan. Oy Christ. You could light L.A. with the glint from Spielberg's halo. I saw "Life is Beautiful" today. What a weird, creepy movie. What was the pitch? 'It's about the Holocaust, except, um, more uplifting.' There is just so much to worship about the Oscars. The glam! The glittering drunks! Anorexics bloated on air kisses! Versace track marks! The golden calves giving it up for God! If Billy Crystal falls in a forest, does Whoopi Goldberg make an ad-lib? I won a bottle of champage an Oscar bash last year for picking the most winners, though, sniff, now I'm being reminded that I haven't drunk it because I have no one to drink it with. Us list-dwellers may fear B&S capsizing under the weight of impending bigness, but the true terror, I tell you, is some Hollywood hotsie nabbing Stuart Murdoch, a la, Winona Ryder and Dave Pirner. If we don't want to see him dangling like a erudite poodle out of a Prada handbag we'd best be vigilant. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Mon Mar 8 17:07:21 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 12:07:21 EST Subject: Sinister: new york picnic Message-ID: <1ad23e27.36e403c9@aol.com> if this event does occur, i promise to drive up from Virginia, where I live. I'd love to meet you people, and I'll even bring a few friends who don't have list access but love belle and sebastian as well... sounds fun, I say dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From PaperSun23 at xxx.com Mon Mar 8 19:09:29 1999 From: PaperSun23 at xxx.com (PaperSun23 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 14:09:29 EST Subject: Sinister: re: if you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding Message-ID: <9783a0a8.36e42069@aol.com> In response to Mark's message regarding my sad encounter with meat, it was indeed the result of eating meat after not having eaten it years. Otherwise the food was fine. My mom was able to eat it without any problems. Nice Floyd subject title, though I'm not such the big Wall fan. There are soooo many better albums in their giant canon. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From j_kerswell at xxx.com Mon Mar 8 19:10:57 1999 From: j_kerswell at xxx.com (john kerswell) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 11:10:57 PST Subject: Sinister: the lighter side of tree Message-ID: <199903081910.LAA12615@law-f142.hotmail.com> yes, this is my first post, no i am not a 'new fan' i am a good while pre-'gold', and sat silently smiling through the post coital smoke in the nurture room. Just thought I'd tell you all about somethng rather nifty and dinky i saw on saturday.It was in the Royal College of Art in Kensington, just next to Mr Alberts large marquee. Poised amoung the symphony of the students exhibits was a white telescope. When peering in the eye piece, the teeny words of 'Open your eyes, open your mind' could be read. I thought they had somehow been inserted into the lens, and it was only upon further inspection the theory was toppled. For the telescope was picking up a message from the outside, the real world. Pointed directly at a tree in Hyde Park, it was reading an inverted text stuck on the bark, positioned in a way that many people would pass the back of the tree, but never hear it's voice.How many of us are guilty of that? A great use of space. It of course was better out of black type, but taut I'd share it Annie Haps,I skit. Magpie jay ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From S.Ludlam at xxx.com Mon Mar 8 16:21:51 1999 From: S.Ludlam at xxx.com (Simon Ludlam) Date: 08 Mar 99 16:21:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: jacket hangs Message-ID: Anybody know what 'The Blue Aeroplanes' are up to these days? Have they split? If so, I would like to hire Wojtek Domchowski to interpret the complete works of Belle and Sebastian. If you've seen him, you'll know what I mean! If not, then I hope they haven't split... Simon x ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The views expressed in the EMail and files transmitted with it are those of the individual not the company. If you have recieved this EMail in error please notify. postmaster at pindar.com http://www.pindar.com ********************************************************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From M223CMellan at xxx.uk Mon Mar 8 16:04:14 1999 From: M223CMellan at xxx.uk (M223CMellan) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 16:04:14 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Stow games Message-ID: <16045012505805@holyrood.gla.sch.uk> Many people have spoken of their "study at stow" t- shirts, but Am I the only one who has a stow puzzle cube ? They kick ass. from Chris Mellan CRYSTALBALLS M223CMELLAN at holyrood.gla.sch.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Mon Mar 8 23:02:37 1999 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 23:02:37 GMT Subject: Sinister: Smashing Time Message-ID: <36e4556a.11847417@post.demon.co.uk> Hello All-new singing dancing Sinisterines, I'm a bit late re-joining the fun, I've been on holiday in Wumpkinnyland. My luggage is still on holiday actually, it decided to go to New York, so now I've got jet lag but no clean underwear. But I had jolly super fun of course, and it snowed. It snowed a lot in fact. Proper snow, not the big girl's blouse English variety. Needless to say we saw no foxes, but there was a cute little black squirrel which tasted delicious with Swiss Chalet's special sauce. We went to Montreal and stayed with Lucas, the silent Montreal Sinisterine who wowed us with his gentlemanliness and Wendy Carlos' version of the Brandenberg concertos played on the Moog. Lucas, we salute you. I found a copy of Evie Sands' "Angel of the morning" for three dollars in the world's most chaotic record shop, and a beautiful Tami Terrell LP in Toronto, but Wumpkinny got the scoops of the week with Les Sultans (the Quebecois Zombies) and Jenny Rock (the Quebecoise Shampoo). And we saw "Rushmore" which was ace. Trousers was in it. He kept that quiet. Plus I learned the true meaning of the word "hoser" and it isn't what Keith keeps in his y-fronts. Now there's multifarious B&S type pleasures to look forward to. Looper on Wednesday. Fluffy, I have your ticket. What's the deal with these chalets at Camber Sands? Do we all jump in together? Are there bunk beds? I'm very excited. Poor Dusty. They were playing "You don't have to say you love me" in Vortex in Toronto and it was all I could do not to cry. And Stanley Kubrick too, even though I think Clockwork Orange is possibly the shittest film I've ever seen - "Lolita", "The shining", "Doctor Strangelove", classics the lot of them. It was weird reading the paper this morning and realising that up till now I'd had no idea what he looked like. I'm going to phone Warrander John now and find out about his 4-Real weekend. Until next time... Love Tag (who does not think Bis are the new X ray spex, despite rumours to the contrary) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Tue Mar 9 00:25:49 1999 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 19:25:49 -0500 Subject: Sinister: try out the step back approach Message-ID: <004501be69c3$7eedb780$c51e05d1@tinystar> hi sinisterines, miss jessica has been veryvery busy doing laundry today, preparing for her rapidly approaching trip to england (and i have been corrected on my previous assumption that england was backwards; a kind soul reminded me that "it's not backwards, dear, it's just on the other side". bless.). i'm a little disappointed at the lack of enthusiasm towards the "welcome jessica" party - did i mention that i'm dynamic and have totally revamped my webpage? well, once again. www.geocities.com/Athens/Styx/3733 if nothing else, i hope i've inspired you to make a tax-deductible donation to the "send jessica to the bowlie weekend" fund. every donation over $100 gets a saucy photo. in b+s related news, the brit awards were not shown in part of toronto because our cable went out just 20 minutes before. so i've yet to feast my eyes on the formidable stuart murdoch in motion. i'll bet he moves with the grace of a dancing tiger in heat. . scheduled london shopping stops include selfridge's, new look and shops on oxford street, m+s to see if it's any different in britain, office, and pressing my nose against the glass outside burberry's. if there are any sassy girl clothes stores that are essential for the blossoming twee queen, let me know. today's brit vocabulary: "i've got to go for a wee" tweekisses, jessicaxo * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * someone had spied on us, i suppose, as we sat beside the canal and ate the sandwiches, drinking not even orangeade or coca-cola but hot milk out of a thermos. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * t i n y s t a r @ w o r l d y . c o m (it's lovely being a girl) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lost_madflowr at xxx.com Tue Mar 9 00:42:44 1999 From: lost_madflowr at xxx.com (lost madflowr) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 16:42:44 PST Subject: Sinister: lo-fidelity allstars at the Black Cat in DC Message-ID: <19990309004244.28490.qmail@hotmail.com> yO! :) right now it's 7:36 on monday night. i bought my ticket a few days ago. Lo-Fidelity Allstars are playing the black cat. woo! anyways, i know there are some local kids with neat taste in music and i was wondering if anyone is going to the show. i'll be there around 8 in the red room waiting for the doors to open at 8:30 and i will be wearing a blue shirt with mad written in the middle of a flowr. :) so there! if you see me, say hi. perhaps i should get sinister tattooed? onto my forehead? at sloan i wore a little sign around [and had my friend karyn wear it too] that said belle & sebastian. :) oh well. now playing - sparklehorse. anyone from philly care to house me when sparklehorse are playing in philly? :) please :) evol madflowr ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lost_madflowr at xxx.com Tue Mar 9 04:27:11 1999 From: lost_madflowr at xxx.com (lost madflowr) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 20:27:11 PST Subject: Sinister: lo-fidelity allstars at the Black Cat in DC Message-ID: <19990309042711.8393.qmail@hotmail.com> btw i am a dolt... wednesday (this wednesday) black cat - d.c. Lo-Fidelity Allstars w/ thunderball i will be : in the red room bar at 8, waiting for the doors to open at 8:30 wearing : blue shirt with mad written in the middle of a flowr. sorry for the sort of repost ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From travelling_light at xxx.com Tue Mar 9 05:51:12 1999 From: travelling_light at xxx.com (Kin Woo) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 21:51:12 PST Subject: Sinister: I'm going Dot Allison dotty! (NON B&S) Message-ID: <19990309055113.17473.qmail@hotmail.com> hello beautiful folk:) I didn't get a reply to my posting, though I didn't hold out much hope for it I guess but did any listee bootleg the Dot Allison gig? I know I sound desperate and pathetic (surprise...I am!) but I'm dying to hear live stuff from this most elusive of chanteuses. I got the lovely limited edition vinyl of "Tomorrow Never Comes" and an advance copy of " Mo Pop" when I was in London, and can tell her solo debut is going to be very special indeed. So please any listee who's taped the gig, please get in touch with me, either through this or my univerisity account: daftpunk at tartarus.uwa.edu.au and let's trade. I'd trade almost anything for it and I've got quite a lot of rarities to trade:) God I wish I was still living in London, but oh no, I have to return to Australia and study and all that:( Anyhoo enough blathering, hope to hear from some of you lovely folk soon and I promise my next posting is B&S related! (now where have you heard that one before huh listees?) seeya Kin Woo With A Star Upon Your Shoulder Lighting Up The Path As You Walk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aszolnoki at xxx.com Tue Mar 9 09:30:24 1999 From: aszolnoki at xxx.com (aszolnoki at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 04:30:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Postcard for You at Comedy Central Message-ID: <199903090930.EAA10782@log1.visnetops.com> Dear You Lovely People, Andras sent a postcard to you from Comedy Central. To see it online, go to: http://www.comedycentral.com/greetings/index.tin?code=25233808356 Or you can go to: http://www.comedycentral.com/greetings/index.html and enter your code: 25233808356 Love, Comedy Central +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk Tue Mar 9 10:19:20 1999 From: pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk (Pamela Hutchinson) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:19:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Aaaaah!!! Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From L.Kerr at xxx.uk Tue Mar 9 10:58:52 1999 From: L.Kerr at xxx.uk (L. Kerr) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:58:52 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Double deckers Message-ID: Dear friends Like Young Master Tag, I am getting very excited about the Bowlie weekend, not least the excellent Double Decker bus idea, posted by Pam Berry. Do newsagents still sell streamers in multi-coloured packs, which we can trail out of the window on the M25, or whichever route we take to glorious Hastings? We can all rush to sit at the back upstairs,and some of the quieter ones can sit near the driver with the group leaders. Later on they can feel sick and have to stick their heads out of the window. The rest of us hard ones can sing "You canny shove your Granny off a bus" and "The back of Belle and Sebastian canny sing, canny sing, canny sing, the back of Belle and Sebastian canny sing, canny sing for peaaaaa-nuts." No! "The front of Belle and Sebastain canny sing...." etc etc So cheers to all involved in this plan. What a nice one. Linda +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Tue Mar 9 11:38:13 1999 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:38:13 -0000 Subject: Sinister: the WHO Message-ID: <000401be6a21$50d7fd70$4e0129c2@sun.QSS> I found this nice little piece on a site where WHO fans can talk about what they reckon to the various WHO albums... When I first heard Quadrophenia, my cat died. It was a moment that was to change my life, after all I loved that fucking moggy. But the music helped, and when ever I go back to the grave of Fred, the first and last love of my life, I always think of the sweeping melodies of "Love Reign O'er Me" or the catchy thrills of "Zoot Suit". I know deep down that my cat was a Mod, he wanted a GS scooter and his haircut neat, it's just a shame it all had to end so tragically. I loved my cat and my cat lurved Quadrophenia. PS, I'll miss you Fred Cheers, Keith. ps : it's at http://www.thewho.net/reviews/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Tue Mar 9 11:59:24 1999 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:59:24 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: The Miseducation of Bernard Hill In-Reply-To: <01be696c$6ab3b820$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Message-ID: I think one of the songs on the next album should contain the lyrics: "Hey, hey, hey, I've got music in my feet. A real groovy disco beat." Has anyone seen the pictures of the Camber Sands chalets? Bagsy the room next to the Go-Kart track. Roobin xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Tue Mar 9 13:16:53 1999 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:16:53 -0000 Subject: Sinister: FW: And another piece of garbage Message-ID: <000101be6a2f$192efeb0$4e0129c2@sun.QSS> Here's something I got sent that I figured Americans travelling over here would probably be into if they're coming over for Bowliefest. "Advice for Tourists" The Brits have peculiar words for many things. Money is referred to as "goolies" in slang, so you should for instance say "I'd love to come to the pub but I haven't got any goolies." "Quid" is the modern word for what was once called a "shilling" - the equivalent of seventeen cents American. If you are fond of someone, you should tell him he is a "great tosser" - he will be touched. The English are a notoriously tactile, demonstrative people, and if you want to fit in you should hold hands with your acquaintances and tossers when you walk down the street. Habits Ever since their Tory government wholeheartedly embraced full union with Europe, the Brits have been attempting to adopt certain continental customs, such as the large midday meal followed by a two or three hour siesta, which they call a "wank." As this is still a fairly new practice in Britain, it is not uncommon for people to oversleep (alarm clocks, alas, do not work there due to the magnetic pull from Greenwich). If you are late for supper, simply apologise and explain that you were having a wank - everyone will understand and forgive you. Universities University archives and manuscript collections are still governed by quaint medieval rules retained out of respect for tradition; hence patrons are expected to bring to the reading rooms their own ink-pots and a small knife for sharpening their quills. Observing these customs will signal to the librarians that you are "in the know"- one of the inner circle, as it were, for the rules are unwritten and not posted anywhere in the library. Likewise, it is customary to kiss the librarian on both cheeks when he/she brings a manuscript you've requested, a practice dating back to the reign of Henry VI. One of the most delightful ways to spend an afternoon in Oxford or Cambridge is gliding gently down the river in one of their flat- bottomed boats, which you propel using a long pole. This is known as "cottaging." Many of the boats (called "yer-i-nals") are privately owned by the colleges, but there are some places that rent them to the public by the hour. Just tell a professor or policeman that you are interested in doing some cottaging and would like to know where the public yerinals are. The poles must be treated with vegetable oil to protect them from the water, so it's a good idea to buy a can of Mazola and have it on you when you ask directions to the yerinals. That way people will know you are an experienced cottager. Food British cuisine enjoys a well deserved reputation as the most sublime gastronomic pleasure available to man. Thanks to today's robust dollar, the American traveller can easily afford to dine out several times a week (rest assured that a British meal is worth interrupting your afternoon wank for). Few foreigners are aware that there are several grades of meat in the UK. The best cuts of meat, like the best bottles of gin, bear Her Majesty's seal, called the British Stamp of Excellence (BSE). When you go to a fine restaurant, tell your waiter you want BSE beef and won't settle for anything less. If he balks at your request, custom dictates that you jerk your head imperiously back and forth while rolling your eyes to show him who is boss. Once the waiter realises you are a person of discriminating taste, he may offer to let you peruse the restaurant's list of exquisite British wines. If he does not, you should order one anyway. The best wine grapes grow on the steep, chalky hillsides of Yorkshire and East Anglia-try an Ely '84 or Ripon '88 for a rare treat indeed. When the bill for your meal comes it will show a suggested amount. Pay whatever you think is fair, unless you plan to dine there again, in which case you should simply walk out; the restaurant host will understand that he should run a tab for you. Transportation Public taxis are subsidised by the Her Majesty's Government. A taxi ride in London costs two pounds, no matter how far you travel. If a taxi driver tries to overcharge you, you should yell "I think not, you charlatan!", then grab the nearest policeman (bobby) and have the driver disciplined. It is rarely necessary to take a taxi, though, since bus drivers are required to make detours at patrons' requests. Just board any bus, pay your fare of thruppence (the heavy gold-colored coins are "pence"), and state your destination clearly to the driver, e.g.: "Please take me to the British Library." A driver will frequently try to have a bit of harmless fun by pretending he doesn't go to your requested destination. Ignore him, as he is only teasing the American tourist (little does he know you're not so ignorant!). For those travelling on a shoestring budget, the London Tube may be the most economical way to get about, especially if you are a woman. Chivalry is alive and well in Britain, and ladies still travel for free on theTube. Simply take some tokens from the baskets at the base of the escalators or on the platforms; you will find one near any of the state-sponsored Tube musicians. Once on the platform, though, beware! Approaching trains sometimes disturb the large Gappe bats that roost in the tunnels. The Gappes were smuggled into London in the early 19th century by French saboteurs and have proved impossible to exterminate. The announcement "Mind the Gappe!" is a signal that you should grab your hair and look towards the ceiling. Very few people have ever been killed by Gappes, though, and they are considered only a minor drawback to an otherwise excellent means of transportation. One final note: for preferential treatment when you arrive at Heathrow airport, announce that you are a member of Shin Fane (an international Jewish peace organization-the "shin" stands for "shalom"). As savvy travellers know, this little white lie will assure you priority treatment as you make your way through customs. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SPRFNK at xxx.com Tue Mar 9 15:38:13 1999 From: SPRFNK at xxx.com (SPRFNK at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:38:13 EST Subject: Sinister: the makeup Message-ID: hey is anyone going to see the makeup, modest mouse, and blonderedhead tonight at NYU---just wondering kristin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Tue Mar 9 17:13:32 1999 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 17:13:32 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Covent Garden Looper instore Message-ID: Well, I got to the Rough Trade shop early yesterday and spotted a couple of shifty looking characters taking photos outside the shop. I'm glad that I spent a few minutes stalking Stuart D and Wee Karn (for it was they) as I didn't see them at all during the show. Instead I got to see the back of the heads of people peering between the record racks, who in turn only saw an occasional glimpse of Stuart D's trousered knee. That shop is a bit on the tiny side at the best of times, and the prospect of being in close proximity with Stuart D in an enclosed space was a bit worrying given his reputation, but luckily there was no discernable odour. The man from Select was tapping on his notebook in time with the Ballad of Ray Suzuki, so I think he liked it. He didn't smile during Columbo's Car though, and I reckon that anyone who fails to smile during Columbo's Car has no soul. Anyone who fails to be enchanted by our transatlantic visitor Jennifer also has no soul, and sadly I didn't even realise it was the same Jennifer I had exchanged a flurry of emails with last year until it was time to head home. Sorry Jennifer. Kevan The Fat Slug *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koogydelbbog at xxx.com Wed Mar 10 01:33:24 1999 From: koogydelbbog at xxx.com (Andrew Dean) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 01:33:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: re: the makeup Message-ID: <36E55B64.CBD9F34@yahoo.com> > * Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:38:13 EST > * From: SPRFNK at xxx.com > * Subject: Sinister: the makeup > hey is anyone going to see the makeup, modest mouse, and blonderedhead > tonight at NYU---just wondering nope, not me. cos, like 95%+ of this list, i don't live in new york. suprised that stanley kubrick's death wasn't a big topic on this list too? could that be that this is a belle and sebastian list and not alt.movies? come on people, think before you post things that are WHOLLY off topic. looper were good yesterday in the rough trade shop. at least i think it was looper as i was stuck behind the pillar. it could've been chas and dave doing their looper covers set for all i know but hey. lp's nice as well, as far as it goes. it's a bit short especially when you realise that two of the tracks have been out before and a couple of the others are short fillers. would've made a nice mini lp at a cheaper price (like mojave 3's last lp which was as short but two or three quid less). absolutely no problem with the music though. with his singing, maybe, but not the music. btw, someone asked what we'd do if jeepster charged more for b&s disks? well, compared to the snow patrol and salako lps they already do. both were 4 pounds cheaper than tbwtas in my local store. andy bad mood, sorry. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Tue Mar 9 18:13:49 1999 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksAndAJill) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:13:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: All Philly Sinisterites going to Sorted this Saturday, raise your hand. Message-ID: <199903091813.NAA03638@dept.english.upenn.edu> Well? How about it 'Delphians? Are we going to boogie to the Britpop beat? Can I get a witness? Well all right. Xavier -- BXK M o t h e r , M a y bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu I S l e e p http://www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 W i t h D a n g e r ? X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Snowinsumr at xxx.com Wed Mar 10 00:58:14 1999 From: Snowinsumr at xxx.com (Snowinsumr at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 19:58:14 EST Subject: Sinister: "...michigan belle and sebastian fans send me the pillows you dream upon..." Message-ID: dear "sleepy eyed dreamers" diary... hello fellow michigan belle and sebbie followers...i was just curious as to whether you all are meeting up anywhere for the smog, elliot smith or mojave3 shows in late march and april? i thought it may be good fun... i haven't written in so long...i think i may have a bit o' mono or something because i am so very tired... lost and always alone. m. elise +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From coool_air at xxx.com Wed Mar 10 10:25:10 1999 From: coool_air at xxx.com (Claire Timmins) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 02:25:10 PST Subject: Sinister: ooohh Message-ID: <19990310102517.104.qmail@hotmail.com> This is rather weird my sweets. My mum found out that I had been invloved with 'the meddling internet fans' and she has been monitoring my emails. Hah, I've fooled her, using my hotmail account. Anyway I have nothing to say, but can anyone send me the url for that hamsterdance thing I have a sad friend. my love to all, and see you at Bowlie. How good do the chalets look? hallelujah the sun is shining on my dull little office. later Claz Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tunnock at xxx.au Wed Mar 10 12:56:54 1999 From: tunnock at xxx.au (Michael) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 22:56:54 +1000 Subject: Sinister: "...michigan belle and sebastian fans send me the pillows you dream upon..." References: <36E66890.38B9@alphalink.com.au> Message-ID: <36E66C16.44C@alphalink.com.au> > Snowinsumr at aol.com wrote: > > > whether you all are meeting up anywhere for the smog, elliot smith or mojave3 I am not going to announce that this is my debut post like everyone else does, getting straight to the point, I hope I am not being pretentious but Elliott Smith is actually spelt two tt's EllioTT. He was fantastic live at the Corner Hotel, Melbourne, Australia. Any list members in Melbourne, because Flipside at the Lounge have a B & S special on Thursday 11, sorry for the late notice... I only found out today and I am going to see Tim Rogers. I will try to make it post-gig however I think it is a few weeks early, unless they have a copy of Tigermilk... Bye +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From M223CMellan at xxx.uk Tue Mar 9 17:08:32 1999 From: M223CMellan at xxx.uk (M223CMellan) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 17:08:32 -0000 Subject: Sinister: paper stuff Message-ID: <17064123405969@holyrood.gla.sch.uk> dear friends In the Sunday times ECOSSE section, on 7/3/99, there was a huge article on the b&s brits win and stuff about the ''vote rigging'' (does 'sour grapes' mean anything to pete waterman?). (If anyone wants me to mail it to them, mail me, cos it's quite good. I'll just give you a nice quote from it (it was somthing like this; I'm doing it from memory) "meanwhile, the rest of the band were back in glasgow, and listening to the radio coverage of the event. When Nick cooke was halfway through his acceptance speech, an extremely confused Stuart Murdoch cootoned on to who was speaking, and said "huh - have we won something?"." I liked this. It also said that TBWTAS had gone gold, with 'sinister' reaching sales of 60,000. Once again - does anyone else have a stow puzzle cube - they are the ones where you slide the squares around, and one square is missing, and you need to remake the picture. I love mine dearly, and it has pride of place on our mantlepiece. see you soon, folks. Chris Mellan CRYSTALBALLS M223CMELLAN at holyrood.gla.sch.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mphintz at xxx.com Wed Mar 10 13:06:08 1999 From: Mphintz at xxx.com (Mphintz at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 08:06:08 EST Subject: Sinister: stolen kisses Message-ID: <32d44cc6.36e66e40@aol.com> I am very glad Sinister is back. While it was away at the spa, I had to keep sending messages to myself, to cover the absence in my inbox. Myself and I had a disagreement; it erupted into a flame war. However, we talked it out, and now we, erm.. I, see my own point of view. The Looper album didn't arrive at my local record shop today. I searched the stacks; I searched the new releases. Eventually I asked the man behind the counter, but there was still no Looper. After the disappointment, I still might find the courage to go back to that store. Two kitties live in it, guarding the store. Record and cats--a little bit of heaven. Besides, he said the album should be in tomorrow. Brian and I are journeying to this Bowlie. Could anyone put us up in London that Thursday night? We are very clean. I would also like to announce a webzine I have been working on. It is called Stolen Kisses, and can be found at http://members.tripod.com/stolenkisses. I think I write about Belle and Sebastian too often. It is the only beginning of great things. Living and loving Matthew --------------------- Stolen Kisses http://members.tripod.com/stolenkisses stolkisses at aol.com/mphintz at aol.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Wed Mar 10 16:05:15 1999 From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (Michael Jones) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 08:05:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Queer as folk-rock Message-ID: <19990310160515.21199.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com> Hey chipmunkz, It's been a rum coupla weeks and no mistake. Nimmo, Springfield, Kubrick - all newly arrived in that sandalwood-scented VIP lounge in the sky. Especially tragic as we'll now never get to see Stanley's 185-minute satirical psychodrama 'A Vicar on Jupiter', with Dusty and Wendy Carlos spazzing Analogue Memphis skank-soul all over the soundtrack. Back on topic before Andy Dean smacks my legs... Those of you in the London area may already know about tomorrow night's "200 Troubled Teenagers" event in New Cross - an event I'm at least a little uneasy about but shall probably attend out of sheer curiosity. It surely can't be as bad as all those Smiths nights they used to have at two-bit Indie Clubs in the late 80s. Not that I ever attended one of those, alone, clinging to the walls all night with a Southern Comfort or anything. Oh no. For some reason, Time Out have elected to list this event in the Gay section. Now, this could be because the venue is one frequented by South-East London's gay community or (and I prefer to believe this possibility) TO have genuinely jumped to a particular conclusion about B&S and their fanbase. They even refer to "Belle and Sebastiane" throughout the piece. Derek Jarman and rivers of spunk. You know the one. 1975, torture and martyrdom. Cor blimey. I say we all embrace this inadvertent act of pigeonholing. Pam and I intend to paint the Bowlie double-decker pink, and I *demand* that the entire Camber Sands event be renamed Fopstock. Copies of Trousers' pamphlet "How To Cut It As A Straight Man In A Gay World" are available from the Poetry Cafe. That is all. Mike. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From M223CMellan at xxx.uk Wed Mar 10 17:16:58 1999 From: M223CMellan at xxx.uk (M223CMellan) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 17:16:58 -0000 Subject: Sinister: hoo haaa. i'm just gone mad. Message-ID: <17184195306161@holyrood.gla.sch.uk> my heart is bleeeding (not literally), and I don't know if music can fix it. I want to curl up in a ball, and lie under a table, and be cold. life is so bleeding unfair. Is anyone out there insecure too? I don't know what to do. If anyone wondered why I posted my results a while ago, it was because, to be honest, that these are the only things that I have to show that I have actually done anything in life, short as it has been. They prove that I am not a waster. It is only because I am usure of myself that I did so. Is it unusual to think that "hey, am I just a complete shit, or parannoid, or both?"? How do you know If somebody likes you? I don't mean simply 'likes you', but " 'likes you', likes you". You know. It's just that I don't know whether this girl, who is basically one of my best friends, likes me as a mate, or whether she likes me more than that. I'm too gutless to ask her this, because I don't know whether she will laugh at me and perhaps think that by saying this, I am being a bit presumptious. but i think that she is great. I just don't know. tell me what you think. and can anyone suggest a high paying career for me. (I'm a money grabbing arse) my regards to you all. if I don't mail again, I'll probably have thrown myself off a bridge Chris Mellan CRYSTALBALLS M223CMELLAN at holyrood.gla.sch.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sanangel22 at xxx.com Wed Mar 10 18:27:50 1999 From: sanangel22 at xxx.com (Jarrod San Angel) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:27:50 PST Subject: Sinister: LosAngelesFestivities Message-ID: <19990310182751.11528.qmail@hotmail.com> Greetings, Sinisterians! ************************ Now Hear This: I, Jarrod San Angel, Being Of Sound Body & Mind, Hereby Will the 1st Ever Quarterly (That means at least 4 times a year) Greater Los Angeles Area Belle & Sebastian Picnic & Sing Along Extravaganza to At Long, Long Last.. HAPPEN! Just imagine the possibilities: biscuits & tea up at the Griffith Park Observatory, or checkers and ale in Old Pasadena, or perhaps pints and and lawn darts in the Hollywood Hills.. the list of possible happy-in- the-haze-of-a-drunken-hour festivities is endless.. all we need is.. to populate this shindig! So far, I've attracted two other Angelenos to make themselves known on this list.. Will it be a paltry party of three, quietly discussing the myriad virtues of our Scot Heroes? Or a full fledged ho-down, rife with laughter, replete with all the amenities of a fanclubesque get together: photos, fruitpunch, games, gossip, chitchat, pillow fights (??).. and what have you.. Well, sign me up for the Gala.. as for the rest of yourselves - let yourself be heard, seen: post ideas - places, events, anything at all.. I look forward to hearing from you all.. And should anyone wish to discuss things en secret, sanangel22 at hotmail.com is the address.. Love&Peace, Jarrod San Angel Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pgarnier at xxx.edu Wed Mar 10 18:56:53 1999 From: pgarnier at xxx.edu (Philippe Garnier) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:56:53 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Girls are just friends References: <17184195306161@holyrood.gla.sch.uk> Message-ID: <36E6C067.E27783DD@hnu.pharm.utah.edu> Hello Bunnies, Chris is on the bridge, ready to throw himself off: > Is it > unusual to think that "hey, am I just a complete shit, or parannoid, or > both?"? How do you know If somebody likes you? I don't mean simply 'likes > you', but " 'likes you', likes you". You know. It's just that I don't know > whether this girl, who is basically one of my best friends, likes me as a > mate, or whether she likes me more than that. I'm too gutless to ask her > this, because I don't know whether she will laugh at me and perhaps think > that by saying this, I am being a bit presumptious. > but i think that she is great. > I just don't know. > Chris, dear Chris, the one and only question worth to be asked in this dreadful world is "Does she like me?". Because you're too scared to ask this question directly to the girl that makes you mad, you try to find signs, answers in her smiles, in her eyes, in her silence. I've just asked the girl. She said "No, I don't like you the way you like me". Now i don't believe in spring anymore. I won't throw my body and my soul off the bridge because i'm so awkward I would be able to fuck up the final jump and break my leg. Only one leg. To the girls: when a boy behaves strangely, awkwardly, be nice with him though. Maybe he is just in love. Chris: I hope you *are* presumptious. Lovers are not wise. Forget the bridge. Take care of your heart, Philippe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kellym at xxx.com> Wed Mar 10 19:13:36 1999 From: kellym at xxx.com> (kellym at xxx.com>) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:13:36 -0800 Subject: Sinister: LosAngelesFestivities Message-ID: <199903101914.LAA13777@macbeth.ienet.com> On Wed, Mar 10, 1999, Jarrod San Angel wrote, "Just imagine the possibilities: biscuits & tea up at the Griffith Park Observatory, or checkers and ale in Old Pasadena, or perhaps pints and and lawn darts in the Hollywood Hills.. the list of possible happy-in-the-haze-of-a-drunken-hour festivities is endless.. " Oh, they are endless, but i think that we can be much more creative. Why just have picnics? Must we co-opt NYC and UK trends or can we do something unique to our area? Just think, we could a) smoke crack under the 101 in Echo Park, b) gang-bang/drive by/graffiti south central with various belle and seb slogans or c) sell our asses on Santa Monica Blvd. at three am on a Tuesday. I'd be up for all three of these and I think it'd be a great way to show our LA spirit. Let's show the list how to party California-style, ok? just a thought... - kelly ryan mcguire kellym at raygun.com "its easier to drink on an empty stomach than eat on a broken heart." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SWIRAL at xxx.com Wed Mar 10 20:12:55 1999 From: SWIRAL at xxx.com (SWIRAL at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:12:55 EST Subject: Sinister: LosAngelesFestivities Message-ID: How sad i feel being left out just because i live in OC outside of LA :( << Greetings, Sinisterians! ************************ Now Hear This: I, Jarrod San Angel, Being Of Sound Body & Mind, Hereby Will the 1st Ever Quarterly (That means at least 4 times a year) Greater Los Angeles Area Belle & Sebastian Picnic & Sing Along Extravaganza to At Long, Long Last.. HAPPEN! Just imagine the possibilities: biscuits & tea up at the Griffith Park Observatory, or checkers and ale in Old Pasadena, or perhaps pints and and lawn darts in the Hollywood Hills.. the list of possible happy-in- the-haze-of-a-drunken-hour festivities is endless.. all we need is.. to populate this shindig! So far, I've attracted two other Angelenos to make themselves known on this list.. Will it be a paltry party of three, quietly discussing the myriad virtues of our Scot Heroes? Or a full fledged ho-down, rife with laughter, replete with all the amenities of a fanclubesque get together: photos, fruitpunch, games, gossip, chitchat, pillow fights (??).. and what have you.. Well, sign me up for the Gala.. as for the rest of yourselves - let yourself be heard, seen: post ideas - places, events, anything at all.. I look forward to hearing from you all.. And should anyone wish to discuss things en secret, sanangel22 at hotmail.com is the address.. Love&Peace, Jarrod San Angel >> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From S.Ludlam at xxx.com Wed Mar 10 20:39:07 1999 From: S.Ludlam at xxx.com (Simon Ludlam) Date: 10 Mar 99 20:39:07 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Mod Lang Message-ID: Bloody 'ell Baldrick, I think he's gonna eat me... Well, here I am working at my Mac processing pages for digital print, and while the whole world collapses at my feet, I still find time to smile at myself, then to other people. The only problem is, 'other people' tend to think you're a tweeker if you smile too much. Has humanity really come a long way when a simple smile or friendly gesture can be misconstrued to the point of confusion and later, aggression? Anyway, I'm not giving in. As someone once said, 'It takes strength to be gentle and kind' I think I plagiarized that of this list somewhere. Maybe somebody could refresh my memory. Love Simon p.s If you've ever wondered how you get triangles from a cow, it takes butter, milk, and cheese, and an equilateral chainsaw. p.p.s. Who knows when the Japanese Tigermilk's being released? ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The views expressed in the EMail and files transmitted with it are those of the individual not the company. If you have recieved this EMail in error please notify. postmaster at pindar.com http://www.pindar.com ********************************************************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Wed Mar 10 23:15:54 1999 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 23:15:54 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: In the morning when I wake up, I look like Kiss but without the , make-up... In-Reply-To: <17184195306161@holyrood.gla.sch.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, M223CMellan wrote: > Is it > unusual to think that "hey, am I just a complete shit, or parannoid, or > both?"? How do you know If somebody likes you? I don't mean simply 'likes > you', but " 'likes you', likes you". You know. Well personally I've stopped asking myself those questions all the time. Because I know that without doubt I am indeed a complete shit, and that no women like me in that way at all (hence me being single for longer than I care to remember). Basically because when I'm out socialising I usually end up getting drunk (as those of you who've met me will realise, I like the odd drink now and again), and then saying / doing things which put people off me for life. The fact that I am normally a quiet, shy person who wouldn't hurt a fly doesn't really come across. One day I might learn my lesson and someone might get to know me well enough, but it hasn't happened in the last couple of years so I doubt if it's going to happen now... This thread's depressing, someone post something to cheer me up! Big Stu o o o, ,o, ,o o o> <|> /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ Hey! Macarena... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From e.brown at xxx.com Thu Mar 11 00:03:00 1999 From: e.brown at xxx.com (Emanuel Brown) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 00:03:00 -0000 Subject: Sinister: nobody likes a charlie in the box Message-ID: poor stu, i'm not sure if i can cheer you up, but i will tell you that the odd drink now and then is certainly no crime. i, too, have been known to retreat into boozier climes when subtle loneliness becomes the albatross of all my crimes. but i'm getting over that now. why? god knows. i just feel like i'm not helping matters by logging time at the bar. right now i'm taking time off. this is by no means a permanent thing, just a refreshing respite. check it: i have managed to fall in love with a woman who, while in love with me, happens to be previously entangled with another fella. he happens to be overseas at the moment, but will return sooner than later. why do i get the sinking feeling that i'm an all day sucker? see it could be worse. feel better? emanuel Free, fast e-mail accessible anytime, anywhere http://www.imaginemail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Arigreen23 at xxx.com Thu Mar 11 01:49:31 1999 From: Arigreen23 at xxx.com (Arigreen23 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 20:49:31 EST Subject: Sinister: shyness/etc. Message-ID: i just had a lil' bout of sadness last saturday nite at a birthday party. too shy to dance and what not...and then i came home and listened to sleater- kinney and elliot smith and felt stupid...and then i saw all the similar posts on the list...::sigh::...shyness is very upsetting. oh well i don't have much in the way of optimism except that reading th' posts made me feel a lil' better... bye folks... ari +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Thu Mar 11 01:44:09 1999 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 19:44:09 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: hoo haaa. i'm just gone mad. In-Reply-To: <17184195306161@holyrood.gla.sch.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, M223CMellan wrote: > How do you know If somebody likes you? I don't mean simply 'likes > you', but " 'likes you', likes you". You know. It's just that I don't know > whether this girl, who is basically one of my best friends, likes me as a > mate, or whether she likes me more than that. I'm too gutless to ask her > this, because I don't know whether she will laugh at me and perhaps think > that by saying this, I am being a bit presumptious. Sounds like you may be in the Friend Zone. From my experience, there is usually only one way out of the Friend Zone: through a load-bearing wall. That is, if you leave the Friend Zone, most often it will have collapsed if you should decide to return. You could try to invite her to do something that seems like a date. Assuming she accepts your invitation, then try to steer things in that direction as you attempt to read her signals. You could tell her how you feel, but you will have to be prepared for a total crash-and-burn. Very often if you try for the next plateau and you don't reach it, that's the end. (I don't know why that is.) --Mark __ Burning Rome : SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 > Distributed by Dutch East India Trading, Com Four, and Carrot Top < < http://www.xnet.com/~mkolmar/BurningRome > < MP3 & RealAudio tracks > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Thu Mar 11 03:08:39 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 22:08:39 EST Subject: Sinister: snow patrol and Belle and Sebastian Message-ID: <1bd45a2a.36e733b7@aol.com> SNOWPATROL - "Songs for Polar Bears" CD - Jeepster Records, UK - 14 tracks of great pop music from members of Belle and Sebastian. This disc is an import that I accidently got two copies of. It's a really cool disc and has nice packaging. - Winner pays shipping - Payment by cash or money order only - No reserve - The disc ships the day I receive payment - Good luck! Bidding CD: SNOWPATROL (Belle and Sebastian Members)! (Item #74160830 I saw this on eBay.. correct me if I'm wrong, but Belle and Sebastian aren't the same as snow patrol. Yet this person seems to say they are. I know Isobel sings on one of the tracks of "songs for polar bears"... or do i not know something vital +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mew817 at xxx.com Thu Mar 11 03:27:09 1999 From: Mew817 at xxx.com (Mew817 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 22:27:09 EST Subject: Sinister: under a Scotsman's kilt... Message-ID: Hi everyone! > This thread's depressing, someone post something to cheer me up! I agree that thread is a bit sad... Anyway, I wanted to post something funny and a bit smutty to the list but I'm not sure it's appropriate...I wouldn't want to get sent to the pricipal's office for bad behavior, so I'll just describe this to you.... My friend, with whom I shared a flat in London, sent me an email entitled, "A wee peek under a Scotsman's kilt" to find out if the myth is true, that "true" Scots don't wear underwear under their kilts.... Anyway, you scroll down and there's this picture of some Scottish men performing some sort of ceremony and the one guy's kilt is blowing up from the wind and you can see his bare bum! Oh well I got a laugh out of it anyway... :) It looked qute cold too--the weather not the bum!!! I am a very happy bunny today because Easter candy is a-plenty at the supermarkets!! This is the only time of year to get Cadbury Mini Eggs here in the States. By far my favorite Easter candy, ok, well they are tied with Peeps, but you really can't compare the two. Also, I get to have my first Sinister meetup this weekend!! Hooray! (Unfortunately Atlanta is not a very sinisterine town.) But I get to meet Courtney and the infamous Robbie! It shall be fun. OK, I've probably gone on too long. Take care of yourselves! mew x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eyh96 at xxx.edu Thu Mar 11 03:36:13 1999 From: eyh96 at xxx.edu (remaniac) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 22:36:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: hoo haaa. i'm just gone mad. Message-ID: chris wrote: >both?"? How do you know If somebody likes you? I don't mean simply 'likes >you', but " 'likes you', likes you". You know. It's just that I don't know >whether this girl, who is basically one of my best friends, likes me as a >mate, or whether she likes me more than that. I'm too gutless to ask her and emanuel wrote: >check it: i have managed to fall in love with a woman who, while in love >with me, >happens to be previously entangled with another fella. he happens to be >overseas >at the moment, but will return sooner than later. why do i get the sinking >feeling >that i'm an all day sucker? then there's the story of the girl best friend who had for months been afraid to confess her massive crush but finally one night asked the boy whether he had crushes on anyone. amazingly, he replied that he had had a crush on her, and started to apologise, when the girl blurted out her feelings, too. they both put the crushes in the past tense, but it was pretty apparent that they still existed (the biggest sign being that the boy and girl always made excuses to spend time together). so the next few weeks were beautiful as the admission of their feelings brought them closer, yet the girl was more angst-ridden than ever because she had also been, and still was, "entangled with another fella" for a number of years. she didn't quite regret confessing the crush (it was the first time she had done this sort of thing, except to her list crush ;) -how is he, by the way?- and it was exhilarating) yet she would sometimes lie in bed in a state of misery, wondering why she had ever dared to ask the question. now she might be losing both of the boys, or rather running away from them because it's all too much to handle. anyway, dear chris, despite my sad (true!) story, i might advise you to create a similar situation in which you can draw out your friend's emotions before exposing your own (particularly if the signs point to a strong possibility that she does *like* you). it's a decent avenue for the gutless, except if the girl is shy or prone to masking her feelings, it might not get you anywhere. hmm. as cheesy or cliche as it may sound, belle and sebastian and looper have really helped me in this mess. i was about ready to bury myself in the snow when "up a tree" arrived in the mail. at least now i'm wandering about again, with my headphones on, and feeling ok to be alive. wheee! (but still not writing any papers for class - hi teri) --emily scratch my name on your arm with a fountain pen (this means you really love me) ... rusholme ruffians +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TheeXVirus at xxx.com Thu Mar 11 03:53:04 1999 From: TheeXVirus at xxx.com (TheeXVirus at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 22:53:04 EST Subject: Sinister: LosAngelesFestivities Message-ID: <3cf6f2f4.36e73e20@aol.com> should have something in the souther than oc area... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From PaperSun23 at xxx.com Thu Mar 11 04:05:42 1999 From: PaperSun23 at xxx.com (PaperSun23 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 23:05:42 EST Subject: Sinister: Mozzz Message-ID: <4f064a2b.36e74116@aol.com> ahh, yes. "It takes strength to be gentle and kind." Mr. Morrissey to the rescue again! hugs, Moon Patroller Carrie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ar981611 at xxx.uk Thu Mar 11 10:35:34 1999 From: ar981611 at xxx.uk (Ailsa Ross) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:35:34 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Looper in Glasgow Message-ID: <36E79C76.AA3EF61@student.paisley.ac.uk> I realise this is maybe a bit short notice, but if any of you are going to see Looper in Missing Records, Glasgow this afternoon, there are a few of us meeting up in Ghillie Browns, the pub upstairs in Central Station at 4pm. If you can't make that, then we are going back out to the pub somewhere (venue to be argued about, I mean decided) after the gig, so if you see any friendly looking types at the gig then come and say hello to us and join us in the pub later. And have people got their Bowlie tickets through from Ticketweb yet, as we haven't, and I worry about these things... Thanks to everyone who wrote to me about my MSc paper - I may well be getting back in touch with you to ask you a couple more questions later, but in the meantime, I just wanted to say a big *THANK YOU* to you all. Oh, and if any of you know Gary Done, can you give him a big prod and tell him to email me please !!! Finally, Chris (and others), I can thoroughly sympathise with your plight, I have lost my two best male friends through misplaced admissions of decidedly unplatonic feelings. Tread carefully is the best advice I can give you, friendship is the most important thing about the relationship at any rate, so keep that going whatever you do - if it develops fiurther then you will have a wonderful thing especially if you never lose sight of the fact that you are friends first and foremost, if not then you will have to run the risk of losing a best friend, which is a silly thing to give up if you aren't entirely sure that it should be something more. And take it from someone currently in this situation, it can get a bit icky if you are in class together. I am a reasonably mature 26, with a couple of longterm relationship experiences under my belt and it doesn't get any easier at this age....can you let us know how you get on Chris, I'll have my fingers crossed for you. Ailsa xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Thu Mar 11 11:28:25 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:28:25 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: la vita e bella! Message-ID: The list is dreadfully feeling sinister these late days.All this hurricane of self pity and misunderstood romanticism started with petit Chris confessions on the chaise longue, but we cannot blame him for this tsunami of sad bachelorship that had dashed our usually peaceful shores. Well, I am *so* happy at the moment that I cannot help the victims and it is even embarrasing.Being depressed is much more elegant than being/looking joyful.For example, let's have a look at sorrow-pop icons : Velvet Underground with stylish Nico commanding ; public school charming kid Nick Drake, or Ian Curtis Division.And what is left to JOYFUL ones? The Monkees are the most decent squad I can think of.At least, they always make me feel high again. Perhaps for the nth time in the list,I strongly suggest to listen to 'Va va Room'-Cinerama's first album.It's great.I never felt very concerned to The Wedding Present stuff,in spite of that brilliant album cover with George Best on it.Hey, John Warrander, what about Real vs. Zaragoza? I haven't checked the results yet, hope my tips turned out to be useful.Now that McManaman will become one of us, you cannot tell me you supported 'them', they have no kilt at all in their ranks. Double decker bus is a fantastic idea.I am really jealous I cannot join because I should go and fetch some people in Brighton before storming Rye. But I am just thinking about some football match on the beach, if English weather is allowed enough, some Scotland- Rest of the World and the Scots will have to wear kilts.They are so sexy! And for the bachelors , look at the bright side of life.You don't have to care about contraception, for example. Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Thu Mar 11 10:42:37 1999 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen - jeepster) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:42:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: snow patrol and Belle and Sebastian References: <1bd45a2a.36e733b7@aol.com> Message-ID: <36E79E1D.60BD8F4C@jeepster.co.uk> Jygsaw18 at aol.com wrote: > > SNOWPATROL - "Songs for Polar Bears" CD - Jeepster Records, UK - 14 tracks of > great pop music from members of Belle and Sebastian. This disc is an import > that I accidently got two copies of. It's a really cool disc and has nice > packaging. - Winner pays shipping - Payment by cash or money order only - No > reserve - The disc ships the day I receive payment - Good luck! > > Bidding > > CD: SNOWPATROL (Belle and Sebastian Members)! (Item #74160830 > > I saw this on eBay.. correct me if I'm wrong, but Belle and Sebastian aren't > the same as snow patrol. Yet this person seems to say they are. I know Isobel > sings on one of the tracks of "songs for polar bears"... > or do i not know something vital you're absolutely right, it isn't b&s at all, though a few members of b&s did appear on the album and have played with them, it's a snow patrol album and they are wildly different to b&s as almost everyone could tell you. this guy must be a little confused, or more probably, so desperate for a quick buck that he's prepared to prey on new b&s fans not knowing the 'real deal' cheers david ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lyricjunkie at xxx.com Thu Mar 11 12:20:42 1999 From: lyricjunkie at xxx.com (headrush city) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 04:20:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister:You'll never touch the magic if you don't reach out far enough Message-ID: <19990311122042.28481.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Let's try to raise sinister spirits a little, shall we? Here's my guide to playing a little trick on your mind in order to create extemely vivid memories of people/ events/ places you want to remember for ever and ever. I discovered this nifty little trick by accident when I came back from my holiday in Holland a few years back. Every time I smelt the deodorant I'd been using whilst there, it transported me back - it was as if I was there again. The reason this works is because your sense of smell is the most potent of the senses in bringing back memories. I think it works best when it's a new smell that you associate with the first time you experienced it, so I've got a perfume oil that IS my 16th birthday, and I figured out that your body doesn't know you're manipulating it so I got a shower gel that I used all the while I was in London and saved some so I can go back there every time I smell it. The lengths you'll go to when so much of your life is made up of memories, eh? This is just an equally pleasurable (or painful, depending on the situation) variable on the way certain songs are so tied up with certain times of your life they're inseperable from each other. Mind the gap, Londoners. Love and cinnamon jellybeans, Natasha xx == "Here comes a soul saver on your record player" The Charlatans _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Thu Mar 11 14:08:09 1999 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:08:09 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: You'll never touch the magic... Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB6901AC00@PARK_EX> I have to agree with Natasha about the smells and the music. The worst thing though is when you smell a childhood smell and you get a rush of emotions but you can't remember why and you spend the rest of the day trying to remember the smell *and* remember where it comes from (usually my gran's or cub camp!). Songs are different. Sometimes I'll be listening to something and I'll just get a tingle in my head like pins and needles. The best times are at gigs and festivals when a cool band is doing their last single that you've heard on the radio loads. However it also happened to me throughout the ABBA tribute on the Brits *sigh* I guess I'm just an old pop tart. To little Chris: Don't do it mate. I've seen a lot of this and 9 out of 10 times its not going to happen. I was a v.v.v. lonely 16 year old who thought he fancied most of his female mates at one time or another. Things do get better, listen to The Smiths and feel sad (it's your duty to carry on the tradition), and one day someone WILL walk into your life and blow you away, promise. *hugs*. All these meet-ups make me want to have one of my own! If anyone's in the Worlds End in Camden on Saturday night... I'll probably be the drunken one in the corner falling asleep (I'm playing gigs tonight and tomorrow and then going for a night out in the Big Smoke as us yokels call it (the streets are paved with All Gold you know)). gotta go now Carsmile Steve ---------------------------------------------- carsmilesteve at geocities.com visit our website http://fast.to/carsmile 'So tell me what have you got? So tell me have I lost the plot?' +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Thu Mar 11 14:27:53 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:27:53 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Hello, it's Honey here, Mrs Murdoch's friend Message-ID: Everyone. Mrs Murdoch's having problems with those Hotmail rascals, so she asked me to send this on. I'd add something too, but I'm a bit dizzy so I'll leave it for a bit. Safe to say you are dear to my heart. Be good. honey xxx ========== Hello, it's Mrs. Murdoch here, Stuart's mum. Oh, I'm much happier this week. There is no lovelier way to wake up than to the sound of the dawn chorus. And as Mr. Murdoch will agree, those beautiful bird songs certainly helps him get it up. Mr. Murdoch really is a brute of a man. I like my men to be masculine, like that Pierce Brosnan. He could use his golden gun on my Scaramanger any day! Despite my preference for big strong hunky men, some of you may have noticed that my offspring is a bit girlish - we tried to get him interested in football and ninjitsu at an early age, but he just wasn't having any of it. We'd always find him sneaking off to the netball pitch, or crushing old flowers to make perfume. He'd call it "Scent of the Autumn Primrose" and sell it to Granny Murdoch, who didn't really like it but felt obliged to after seeing all the effort he went to making it. The money he gathered from his perfume sales bought sweeties, which he would to take down to the beach and sell for profit. And then do you know what he used to do with this money? He bought bags of brightly coloured balloons, and little tags with pictures of puppies on them. He wrote on the tags: Hello there! This Balloon was sent By Stuart Murdoch who lives in Ayr in Scotland. If you find it will you please write back and tell me where you live. I have added a space where you can write about any personal problems you might have. I'm a very good listener. Love Stuart, age Nine and a half He only ever got one tag sent back. It was from a lady who lived in Iceland. She had rude bladder problems. Well boys and girls, I see from Honey's website that we are fairly well distributed about the world. Do you think if we all got a balloon, filled it with helium and released it, someone else on Sinister would find it? That's a lovely idea I think. Love, Mrs. Murdoch +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lee at xxx.uk Thu Mar 11 14:45:49 1999 From: lee at xxx.uk (Lee) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:45:49 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Risk takers and heart breakers Message-ID: <000f01be6bcd$f44e6a40$9e7738d4@bentley> (A rather dramatic subject line, even if I do say so myself) That last post from Marco cheered me up after all that gloomy relationship stuff, I like stories with a happy ending. The two threads are not entirely unrelated, the morale of Marco's story was "ask and ye shall receive", what if he didn't knock on that studio door. So to all you loveless souls out there...take a chance. I should really practice what I preach. Football on the beach? How about Sinister stick, I'll bring my footy, just don't head the thing or you'll end up with a mild concussion. lee Thanks for the metal top two everyone.....duhhh, Iron Maiden, it was sooo obvious. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk Thu Mar 11 14:53:28 1999 From: pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk (Pamela Hutchinson) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:53:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Fab FM Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Thu Mar 11 14:51:06 1999 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:51:06 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I MET B&S!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <36E7D85A.63A7889A@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Hi all, i stayed 2 weeks in Scotland and i visited Edinburgh and Glasgow. Edinburgh is one of the beautiful city of the world. In Glasgow i met Calumn Shearer that gave me a B&S's tour. I visited: *Hillhead Underground Station(according to the sleeve notes of their debut album Tigermilk , the place where Stuart Murdoch("sebastian")met Jo("belle") , his then-girlfriend and inspiration for the band) *Stow college(drummer Richard Colburn's old college; where B&S released Tigermilk) *Grosvenor cafe( where Stu.M.recruited 4 of the members of the band by approaching them "if they looked cool") *Hyndland Parish Church(where Stuart sings in the parish choir) *Hyndland Parish Church Hall(recording studio for their second album "if you're feeling sinister") *Photocopying shop(situated opposite Glasgow University's student union.Location for the bathetic short story on the sleevenotes of "3..6..9..Seconds Of Light" : "Photocopying was all the rage that year , so there was quite a queue of young trendies....") *At the end i visited Ca-Va Studio(Studio where they recorded third album "the boy with the arab strap").Here i knocked at the door and a secretary opened it. When i entered i saw all the cd of B&S, Pastels, Delgados , Hefner on the wall. All this band recorded their cd in this studio.I was very excited. I asked to the secretary if it was possible to visit the room where B&S recorded their 3rd cd. After 5 min Stevie Jackson came towards me ( coz the secretary calls him at the telephone unknown to me). I was surprised and very happy.I ask him a lot of question. He told me that it was impossible to visit the studio coz all the B&S was there ......they were recorded their new cd-single. After Stevie i met Stuart Murdoch , very lovely man. What a wonderful holiday!!! cheers, Marco#7. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Thu Mar 11 16:30:55 1999 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 16:30:55 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Edinburgh meet up Message-ID: <000001be6bdc$8955a0a0$4e0129c2@sun.QSS> OK, I suppose the best bet is to meet in Deacon Brodies which is at the top of Bank Street/George IV bridge. Basically, just up on to the royal mile from avalanche, turn right, and along a bit. See you there Cheers, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jeanette at xxx.com Thu Mar 11 09:38:49 1999 From: jeanette at xxx.com (Jeanette) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:38:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: B&S in R.S. Message-ID: <36E78F22.446A@ktc.com> Anyone see the Belle & Sebastian mention in the latest issue of Rolling Stone? Check the Sheffield Report. It's not very nice, though. Something about 'whatever it takes to keep them off the library steps.' Or something like that. jeanette +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Thu Mar 11 15:42:53 1999 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 15:42:53 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Fab FM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001be6bd5$d3a53be0$4e0129c2@sun.QSS> > It is a bit nasty, isn't it the way these big people insinuate that if > B+S won it must be wrong, cos they couldn't possibly be > good/popular enough! Yes indeed it is, it's also a bit odd they thought that people who like Steps records (I guess we're talking 30-something clubbers, and perhaps disillusioned Brotherhood of Man fans perhaps) would go out of their way to vote for Steps. Am I wrong in saying that Steps' hit was a cover of the great Bee Gees "Tragedy"? Seems like in that case, shouldn't the best newcomer award go the Bee Gees? Oh, mind you, they won the Brits lifetime achievement award a year ago or so. I'm just disappointed by Pete Waterman's behaviour, I bet he'd like Belle and Sebastian if he gave them a proper listen. Still, he's getting a bit long in the tooth now anyway. I've almost given up hope that he'll ever be able to scale the heights of the mighty "Roadblock" again. Steps were a mistake too. I'm sure if he'd persevered with Pat and Mick that'd have beat Belle and Sebastian hands down. Cheers, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jimgrund at xxx.fr Thu Mar 11 13:08:44 1999 From: jimgrund at xxx.fr (Jan Imgrund) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:08:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: love and popsongs Message-ID: <199903111309.OAA06648@front6.grolier.fr> Hi list, "Of all people I know, the ones whom pop music means most to have the least luck in love" - Nick Hornby, High Fidelity This might be true. Go listen to Bon Jovi and find the love of your life, or what? I'm seeing this already at the Bowlie Festival - hundreds of sad sinisterinas and sinistereros, having found the sinisterina/rero of their lives and not daring to tell them... Maybe we should put up a festival-crush-board there... Come on! It's spring, birds are singing, sky is high, sun shining (not where you are, in foggy Britain, of course, but it's wonderful weather here ;) I'm going out for a walk and enjoy life now. Adios, Jan The Dark Site of the Moon: http://perso.club-internet.fr/jimgrund/index.html "Don't say you agree with me. When people agree with me I always feel that I must be wrong" -Oscar Wilde +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bferneyhough at xxx.uk Thu Mar 11 09:09:31 1999 From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (Ben Ferneyhough) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:09:31 GMT Subject: Sinister: sour grapes at the Brits...again Message-ID: <199903110909.JAA12529@brookes.ac.uk> Morning all, switched on the Big Breakfast this morning to see 2 of Another Level lolly-gagging on the bed with that Kelly one. She asked them what they thought of B&S winning the best newcomer, and there opinion was that it was a fix !! As if !! I thought all this had died down, but then Kelly went on to say she'd never heard of them, and then A.L. also said they hadn't either. It's good to hear that. Knobheads. It just made me smile. All over, I'll fill you in next time I hear anything on the Big Breakfast !! Ben. __ _-==-=_,-. /--`' \_ at -@.--=\\_/`< ____ /= | \_| up a tree.... / `\ _/=== \___/ \___/ //\./=/~\====\ \ // / | ===: | ._/_,__|_ ==: __ \/ \\ \\`--| / \\ | \\:| /==:-\ \__/``\____/ | |--|==: \ \ ===\ :==:`-' _> \ ===\ /==/ /==\ | ===\__/--/ <=== \ / ====\ \\/ _`-- \/ === \/--' /______/_______/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aal33 at xxx.edu Thu Mar 11 17:38:44 1999 From: aal33 at xxx.edu (Ashley Ann Lyle) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 12:38:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: sinister mailing list Message-ID: please take my e-mail address (aal33 at columbia.edu) off the mailing list. Thanks. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From S.Ludlam at xxx.com Thu Mar 11 18:42:12 1999 From: S.Ludlam at xxx.com (Simon Ludlam) Date: 11 Mar 99 18:42:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Fab FM Message-ID: Keith Watson wrote: > I'm just disappointed by Pete Waterman's behaviour, I bet he'd like Belle >and Sebastian if he gave them a proper listen. Simon Ludlam wrote: If he did, he'd probably want to produce them. Imagine Sonia or Sigue Sigue Sputnik coming out of the woodwork to cover 'Is It Wicked Not To Care' or 'Fox In The Snow' to a disco beat...where would that end up? We'd have to talk to ex Kylie and Jason fans, and this list would get really weird then...just a thought! 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From M223CMellan at xxx.uk Thu Mar 11 17:11:33 1999 From: M223CMellan at xxx.uk (M223CMellan) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 17:11:33 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The article, and other insignificant stuff Message-ID: <17093581206361@holyrood.gla.sch.uk> Okay folks. It's like this. I'm putting the PAPER ARTICLE to the list, because so many people mailed asking for it, so I thought that It would be easier to do this. I'm too tired and sad to comment on it right now, although some of the quotes were quite amusing. I've got more to say now. The whole 'likes' thang with the gurrrrlll. I believe that it isn't just a 1 way thang (sorry for adopting the texan drawllllll) Sometimes, when we talk, there will be strange looks and I don't know what they mean. I can talk about serious things to her - death (don't worry, I'm not going to get morbid) , life, worries, fears, problems, and all that, stuff that we can't really discuss with anyone else, not even my parents, family, or other friends. I've even given, and recieved a hug to and from her. However, sometimes it's just hard to tell what everything means - you don't know what is intended by a certain comment, or or look - and someone suggested that I get drunk and tell all, as I'll be able to blame it on the drink - well I'm only16 - would you be suggesting that I do a bit of underage drinking? I thing that there might be somthing, but how can I be sure - I keep onn thinking that I'll say "I think you're great, really great, the greatest ever", and then I'll see her and think "I can't do this - this is stupid - I know what the answer will be - a big fat no". I have already said that there are some strange looks that are given (not strange as in (you are a bloody nutter), but possibly 'I want to say somthing but can't, (but not cause my mouth is taped up) or even looks which are perfectly innocent, but I can't tell what is what. Yeahhh - also, I'm a scotsman, and I have a kilt, but I am in no way foolish enough to wear no underwear - sometimes, when it is cold and windy, it could be rather embarassing. However, us scots chase haggis (you know, the three legged furry animals), round hills , throwing spears and rocks at them, shouting "ARRRAGH - YABASTARRRD!!!!!!!!!" the article follows. (It is very, very, very long - took me an hour and a half to write up last night. Ooohhh - my hands - Aggghhhhh - the pain) Chris Mellan "CRYSTALBALLS" - the original and best. M223CMELLAN at holyrood.gla.sch.uk BATTLE OF THE BRITS Sunday Times - Ecosse Section - 7th March 1999 --------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- They are the best newcomers to British pop, but Belle & Sebastian have found themselves in the middle of a pitched battle, they tell ALAN BROWN It was fitting that Muhammed Ali, the greatest fighter of all time, should have been a guest of honour at the British music industry's annual beanfeast, the Brit Awards, at the London Arena last month. There he witnessed the most unlikely knockout in the history of British pop, as an obscure band from Glasgow triumphed in the Best British Newcomer category. Against the commercial might and boisterous appeal of teeny bop acts such as B*witched and Steps emerged Belle & Sebastian, a band known, if they were known at all, for their collective timidity than for their music. One look at them - at their Jesus sandals, librarian V-necks and unattended hair - would have told the former champ that not only did this lot float like butterflies, they stung like them too. That night in Docklands it was unlikely that even Ali, a perennial champion of the underdog, would have predicted success for the flyweight Scots. Nobody could have predicted what happened next. As their celebratory hangovers lifted, Belle & Sebastian became enmeshed in controversy, amid allegations that the vote had been rigged in their favour. The British Phonographic Industry (BPI), the body that organises the Brits, was quick to vindicate them, but the row rumbled on. Just as it began to subside, Billboard magazine claimed on Friday that Belle & Sebastian might be stripped of their award, not because the vote was rigged but because they did not qualify under BPI rules as newcomers, having had several singles reach the top 40 last year. One irony is that this unwanted attention has focused on a band who have made reticence an art form, shying from exposure and maintaining their distance from the London music business by recording for a tiny independent label from their base at a church hall in the west end of Glasgow. But there are other curious twists to the Brit affair. While Billboard claims that Belle & Sebastian contravene the BPI 's definition of a new band, the BPI says that this is untrue and accuses Billboard of publishing a distorted summary of BPI rules. An on-going Billboard investigation is considering the possibility that commercial interests within the record industry are influencing which performers are nominated and triumphant in the Brits. As Mark Solomons of Billboard admits, much of it's information comes from BPI board member Pete Waterman - the record producer who first voiced the vote- rigging allegations: "Pete tipped me off that commercial interests are being brought to bear on the Brits," Solomon says. "And he seems to be talking a lot of sense". Waterman insists that the Belle & Sebastian affair is not closed. "There are just too many anomalies that remain unanswered". He says he will raise the issue of corruption at a BPI council meeting on March 25. As producer of Steps, who lost out in the Best Newcomers category, Waterman's crusade might reek of sour grapes. Equally, the modest victory of a Scottish band could become a landmark in Brits history, for all the wrong reasons. Safely ensconced back in Glasgow, the band are happy to let the furore play itself out. Mark Jones, managing director of their record label, jeepster, says the band will "happily give the award back without loosing any sleep over it". Stuart Murdoch, Belle & Sebastian's front man, is more reflective: "I thought the only way I'd ever feature on the cover of The Sun would be for things that involved a six-year sentence." FAMOUSLY, the band did not attend the awards en masse. An eight piece collective, Belle & Sebastian found themselves so strapped for cash that only their drummer and trumpeter could afford to go. When the award was announced, the boozy cheer of the evening gave way to much bemusement, and not just in London: sitting at home in Glasgow, already drunk, the rest of the band listened to the ceremony on the radio. Drummer Richard Colburn was halfway through his acceptance speech when singer and songwriter Murdoch, the gravity of the situation dawning on him slowly, woozily cried: "I think we've won something!" If the award surprised the reticent Glaswegians, it proved more disquieting for some at the highest levels of the London music industry. Shortly after the ceremony, Waterman unleashed his claim. Known for his work in the 1980s shaping the careers of Kylie Minogue and Jason Donovan, Waterman now guides Steps, an act whose ABBA-derived pop had made them chart fixtures and, some claimed, a certain shoo- in for the Best Newcomer gong. Certainly this was the impression Waterman had formed, claiming that before the ceremony Brit insiders briefed him that the award was in the bag. The subsequent events left him splenetic. Belle and Sebastian won, he claimed, because their fans had unfairly influenced the voting, which was done by the public through telephone and internet polls. A cabal of computer-literate Belle & Sebastian fans at Strathclyde University was blamed. The band's donnish demeanour, which had made them the heroes of bedsit-bound adolescents round the world, had been turned against them. The affair has proved the latest bizarre chapter in a career marked by perverse singularity. They had rejected a multi-million pound offer from American recording giants Sire; it was considered too big a challenge to their downbeat lifestyle. Rigorously avoiding publicity, the band prefer to stay in Glasgow's west end, leading the same lifes they had before their rise. Their folksy, whimsical albums are recorded in the nave of a church hall where the front man works as a janitor. Touring is avoided; concerts in community centres are much preferred. The Belle & Sebastian story began four years ago in Glasgow's Grosvenor Cafe, a haven for the city's bohemian fringe of writers and musicians. Here, Murdoch dreamt of forming a band that combined lyrical sophistication with a delicate, wistful musicality. By nature a loner, he would approach likely looking strangers in the cafe with invitations to join his quest. A nucleus eventually coalesced round Murdoch: Stevie Jackson, a veteran of the Glasgow band scene who works as an occupational therapist; Colburn, a former semi-professional snooker player; and Isobel Campbell, a classically trained multi- instrumentalist. Their debut album, Tigermilk, was released thanks to a music project run by Stow College. Two more albums appeared to widespread critical acclaim, compounded by selective live shows and minimal promotion. Musically, the band are wilfully old-fashioned, drawing their inspiration not from guitar rock but forgotten 1980s acts such as Felt, Orange Juice and The Go- Betweens. Album sales have followed an upwards curve: their second collection If You're Feeling Sinister has earned a silver disk for more than 60,000 sales, while its successor The Boy With The Arab Strap recently went gold, reaching no 12 in the album charts. Success at the Brits meant that last week the album re-entered the Top 40 seven months after its release. Their sales worldwide total 300,000, an amazing amount considering the almost word-of-mouth manner in which their reputation has spread. The band's real genius may have been to use the full potential of the internet rather than conventional media to market themselves: their official web site receives 100,000 hits a week. It is complemented by a rash of unofficial sites which dissect Murdoch's lyrics as if they were the first drafts of The Waste Land. There is an interesting paradox in a pastoral entity such as Belle & Sebastian finding themselves at home in cyberspace. Yet the web is a perfect forum for insular, fact-obsessed fans to dissect the objects of their affection, while Belle & Sebastian throw up much that requires dissection. One music biz insider believes that Belle & Sebastian's alliance with the Internet played a part in the Brit debacle. Claims that their fans had weighted the e- mail poll reflect a wider unease within the music community. The insider said: " The music business wants nothing to do with the Internet. They realise it poses a threat to the way they work, the kind of investment that's put into new stereo hardware and reselling back catalogues in new formats. There's a suspicion of bands who are comfortable with the Internet." The point is underlined by Alan McGee, president of Creation Records: "There will be no record companies in five or 10 years' time," says McGee. "Artists will just download their music direct to consumers via the Net." Back at the Brits, Colburn remembers how he went with modest ambitions: "I genuinely thought we were here to make up the numbers," he says. "Obviously, there was the slight hope at the back of my mind that we might just win it. I thought I'd enjoy a night out then return to obscurity the next day, a bit like Cinderella." If Colburn and trumpeter Mick Cooke entertained any hopes winning, they were put into perspective when they entered the Arena. Colburn walked in behind the girl band B*wiched: "I thought that it would be a good policy to sneak in behind them. There was all this noise and fuss. Then as Mick and I walked by, the noise died down, the flashbulbs stopped. There were 100 photographers muttering ' who the hell are those two?' under their breaths. Almost everyone looked utterly confused. One executive apparently thought that we were a music law firm." Alan Parks was among a small band of Scots executives at the awards, there in his capacity as A&R man for All Saints, New Order and Echo and the Bunnymen. He dismisses the idea, however carefully cultivated, of Belle & Sebastian against the world. "It's slightly disingenuous to suggest that nobody knew who they were," he says, "The London Arena is a strange venue where you can't really hear anything. I'm sure that most people were genuinely pleased that they'd won, if perhaps a little surprised. The only people who would be genuinely disappointed are the other nominees in their category." Amongst them, of course, was Waterman. A music industry insider suggests Waterman's ire was provoked because he had his fingers burnt through believing a tip-off from a BBC producer. If he has learnt a lesson it is that, unlike Belle & Sebastian's devoted fan base, the audience for Steps is characterised by teenage fickleness: just 1% of the band's fan membership voted. Belle & Sebastian have refused to hit back at Waterman. They have taken a decision (collectively, of course) to put the row behind them. The band will say only that justice was seen to be done: "Both the Brits organisers and Radio 1 were satisfied that there were no illegalities following their enquiry. The whole thing was scandalous." They remain determined that the award and their curious notoriety will not affect the manner in which they work. "We have this reputation for not playing the game," says bassist Stuart David, "but that's not really the case. Working within a democracy, it's difficult to act as a spokesman for so many points of view. In some cases less is more. Now we've won a Radio 1 award, voted by for their listeners, you'd expect they'd play our records on the radio during the day. I suppose in some ways it's a victory for the small man, and speaking as a relatively small man, I hope people take encouragement from that." Steve Farris, of Sony Music, one of the many majors whose advances the band have rejected, believes Belle & Sebastian were destined for success. "They are under the microscope at the moment, but I can't imagine they'll be ordering dancing girls and drinking champagne," he says. "The recognition will help them sell a few records. I've no doubt that Stuart Murdoch will be hailed as one of the great songwriters of the decade. But there are five exceptionally talented songwriters in the band, and for that reason alone I think that they were always going to be massive." With the band seeming more like a Quaker sect that a conventional rock act, Belle & Sebastian's attitude can infuriate as much as their music delights. Their refusal to gage in self-promotion is explained as a sign of modesty but there is also something slightly precious about it, an elitist reluctance on the band's part to sully themselves by mingling with the unenlightened. If nothing else, their success is proof of something that many have wished for but few have seen: a Scottish band that can prosper outside the clutches of the metropolitan music industry, operating on their own terms in their own place. In this respect, as in several others, Belle & Sebastian are a true one off. Given the controversy that still surrounds their win, they haven't let it rush to their heads. "We haven't really bought anything to celebrate," reflects David, "although I have decided to march boldly into the 1980s and buy a video recorder. I've bought some shelves and some sofas, but they'll take 10 days to come so the excitement will have died down by then." "Does modernising the house count as a celebration? We haven't maxed out the AMEX, but I suppose I've gently battered the Switch card." THE NEWCOMERS AND THEIR PAST 1993-94 - singer/songwriter Stuart Murdoch forms a band by approaching strangers in a Glasgow cafe. Releases several solo demos. 1995 - meets drummer Richard Colburn and bass player Stuart David January 1996 - eight-piece is formed: Isobel Campbell (cello) Sarah Martin (violin) Stuart David (bass) Richard Colburn (drums) Chris Geddes (keyboards) Stevie Jackson (guitar) Mick Cooke (trumpet) Stuart Murdoch (lead vocals and guitar) March 1996 - Limited edition vinyl-only run of 1,000 copies of first album, Tigermilk, released. Radio 1's Mark Radcliffe hears and loves it; he gives the band a session on his show. 1997 - Follow-up release, If You're Feeling Sinister Band turn down Top of the Pops invite and offer of support slot on Radiohead's world tour. Autumn 1998 - Third Album, The Boy with the Arab Strap, is released. February 1999 - Best British Newcomer at Brit Awards. Accused of vote rigging by Pete Waterman, but cleared by the BPI of all charges +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snorman at xxx.uk Thu Mar 11 18:37:03 1999 From: snorman at xxx.uk (Sam Norman) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:37:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: tonight matthew i will be in new cross alone Message-ID: so the night has finally arrived and all my friends who share their enthusiasm for b&s have decided that seeing as its in new cross they don't want to go. its a case of, "aw sarf af the river this time o' nigh" anyway if anyone else from central or north london is going and wouldn't mind accompanying a nice boy there, you know where i am. sam +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Mar 11 19:44:16 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 20:44:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I Sniff Jury's Underpants Message-ID: <01be6bf7$8c2e6ee0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Chris pondered: "How do you know If somebody likes you? I don't mean simply 'likes you', but " 'likes you', likes you". You know." It's easy to tell when a girl likes you, because her nipples light up and start flashing on and off. My nipples lit up and started flashing on and off the other day when the postman brought me two very welcome packages. One of them contained "Trousercuts", the best fanzine in the world. I must admit I was expecting a blurry mess that smelled of methylated spirits, made on the Poetry Society duplicator, but in fact it's quite professional and posh, almost on a par with "real" magazines, like Look-In and Horse & Hounds. My favourite part is Ronan Barret's deliciously demented account of Irish music. I agree that The Corrs are diabolical, but I quite like that song they've done with The Chieftans. I bet they all had a right old orgy after recording that, with the little fella who looks like Benny Hill's mate taking the initiative. And then I bet they had a nudie fart contest, and the drummer won. Do you remember that nudie fart contest we had in the dark after the first Sinsiter picnic on Primrose Hill? I reckon that the best thing about being part of the Belle and Sebastian cult following is the free and easy sexual attitudes we all seem to have, especially towards each other. The upcoming Bowlie Weekend at Camber Sands promises to be a non-stop merry-go-round of frenzied sexual activity. I'm going to try and get over my shyness this time and do it with a boy. I hope there won't be too many journalists around, or we'll be getting quite a reputation! I must admit I was surprised that Stuart Murdoch was so willing to join in last time! I haven't mentioned my other package yet - recordings by Looper and The Gentile Waves. We all know where the name Looper comes from, but apparently Isobel named her side project after the foreskin undulations on an uncircumcised dinkle! You learn something new everyday! I expected both albums to be a bit pish, but they're splendid. The Looper album has a delightful "Noggin the Nog" feel to it, and Isobel has proven that her naughty cowgirl outfit was not mere posturing. She's like Patsy Cline or Lorena Bobbitt, only Scotch. I've seen three films this week, award winning Joey Deacon epic "The Idiots", award winning Ronan Barret epic "The General" and award losing crime caper "Serial Mom" by John Waters. Can you guess which one was best? Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From e.brown at xxx.com Thu Mar 11 20:14:34 1999 From: e.brown at xxx.com (Emanuel Brown) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 20:14:34 -0000 Subject: Sinister: ¡escandalo! Message-ID: >Simon Ludlam wrote: >If he did, he'd probably want to produce them. Imagine Sonia or Sigue Sigue Sputnik coming out of the woodwork to cover 'Is It Wicked Not To Care' or 'Fox In The Snow' to a disco beat...where would that end up? We'd have to talk to ex Kylie and Jason fans, and this list would get really weird then... how beautifully wicked! this wankerman guy sounds like a real piece of work, crying over his ersatz teenbeat minions like the old hipster-pervert he must be. sour grapes, all the way to the bank. why is it so hard for people to understand that a large percentage of the population doesn't care of overproduced rehash? pete, you are most certainly a jewel in the crown of the music industry... i read that times article that was posted and it sure doesn't make him look any better. being a yank-listee, this whole thing is more intriguing than the dead horse known as monica & bill. and you know how we americans love scandals (by the way, tony blair better get on the stick if he's gonna keep up with his pal clinton)... emanuelxoxox Free, fast e-mail accessible anytime, anywhere http://www.imaginemail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Thu Mar 11 20:51:49 1999 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 20:51:49 GMT Subject: Sinister: Britney and me Message-ID: <36e823cd.5017624@post.demon.co.uk> Hello angst-ridden teenagers, Nice to see Sinister has turned into some sort of retirement home for parodies of Smiths fans recently. I went to see Looper last night in Picc Recs, and at least 4 other Sinisterines were present. Fluffy was particularly resplendent with a Calvin and Hobbes cartoon stuck to her jumper. Looper were good although there was an excrutiating moment where no-one whatsover clapped after the first song. That's Manchester for you. Given that the Stephen Hawking machine was saying "thank you" after the rest of the other songs, it's just as the applause began, otherwise poor Stu D would have egg all over his face. It says a lot for his confidence in the technology at his fingertips that the Looper machine could also say "I'm so sorry" when technical hitches occured. I'm very impressed with the Looper LP too. Nice to see they used the Duke's ideas to such spectacular effect. Anyway, I've been hearing all sorts of things about the Bowlie website from various spies. So off I trotted to see what the fuss is about. These are my favourite bits, all sound advice I'm sure you'll agree. >bring some pyjamas, afterall, most of you are sharing your chalet with people you only loosely know. We're sharing a chalet with Chris Leonard and Keith and you don't get much looser than that. >remember to bring some condoms! and no, we're not joking. > > if you're a girl, i know it's taboo, but remember to pack your sanitary care and bits. I wonder if it says that on the Monsters of Rock festival website: But Sister Disco the Immaculate can: >I agree that The Corrs are diabolical, but I quite like that song they've done with The >Chieftans. I bet they all had a right old orgy after recording that, with the little fella who >looks like Benny Hill's mate taking the initiative. And then I bet they had a nudie fart contest, >and the drummer won. My father is a Chieftains groupie. There are some extraordinary revelations in their biography, which I bought him for Christmas...apparently while Derek Bell, the harpist, played, seemingly rapt in study of the sheet music, he was in fact reading "Big Knockers and Hot Front Bottoms" or some such publication of dubious morality. >I've seen three films this week, award winning Joey Deacon epic "The >Idiots", award winning Ronan Barret epic "The General" and award >losing crime caper "Serial Mom" by John Waters. Can you guess which >one was best? I hope it was "The Idiots" cos I've got to go and see it next week. It sounds positively filthy and possibly criminally insane. I'll let you know. Love tag xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Thu Mar 11 12:51:25 1999 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 12:51:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: FW: Edinburgh meet up Message-ID: <000001be6bbd$df5e6910$4e0129c2@sun.QSS> OK chaps, after the Looper gig tomorrow at Avalanche in Cockburn street, anyone who's going, we might as well meet up at a pub and go and get a meal or something. I'm trying to think of a pub around there that'll not be stuffed full of people at that time, which is tricky, so I'll have a think about it, have a chat to Honey, and we'll oragnise something for the end of today. Anyone's invited of course. Cheers, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From karastar at xxx.com Thu Mar 11 21:11:41 1999 From: karastar at xxx.com (Kara Baer) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 21:11:41 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Glasgow Looooper show Message-ID: Dear Sinister Confessional List Diary, I've just got back from the Looper show. It was really very good. The set up involved lots of TVs, a slide projector, a wee satelite dish spinning round and round on a record player, an inflatable spaceship, and Stu D's twiddly bits. Perhaps some one can help me with the song names, but here is what I remember: -a song with some children's voices sampled; it was accompanied by a shots of some cutie-pie children doing cutie-pie things -a very lovely song, this was; it was a story about a girl from behind the pillars, narrated by Stu D. I think this one was my favorite. -a song about burning flies..accompanied by shots of a girl doing just that. -a song about the moon landing being faked -a song about Karn -the ballad of Ray Suzuki -the Colombo Song. I quite enjoyed this one as well. -up a tree, as sung by Stu D. I enjoyed the show very much. I'm sorry I didn't get to meet any Sinister Folk, except Niall. (Hi Niall, how was the comedian?) The store was very crowded. I even saw Stu M and Chris in the audience--not that I did anything stupid this time, although I did follow Mick around McGees the other day. I often wish my life was one of those soap opera comic strips. I'd call it "The Hilarious Mishaps and Wacky Adventures of Kara." It would feature me, my unrequited love interest David, a wacky side-kick, a trustworthy friend who's just a little on the wild side, and an arch-nemisis. Send in your orders now, kids! Love Kara "Stop asking questions that don't matter anyway / Just give us a kiss to celebrate here today / something changed?" --Pulp *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Thu Mar 11 22:26:31 1999 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick * Sandcastle Records) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 17:26:31 -0500 Subject: Sinister: I'm Not Shy Message-ID: <36E84317.DADFE0DF@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Hello Folks, Just burning some idle time... Monday I went to ask the fellow at the record store if they'd be getting the Looper album in on Tuesday. They said maybe. Then I went in on Tuesday, and they said they might later on, but due to the snow (somewhere between 3 & 5 inches of it) they might not come in until Wednesday. Wednesday my family came to visit me, and consequently I didn't make it over to the record store, since it closes at 5. Today I probably would have forgotten too, but I was uptown checking my e-mail on a terminal, I read a few Sinister posts, and went "Oh yea! I forgot," rushed over and bought it. I'm listening to it now, in fact. I think that it's quite pleasant, and good in places as well. Some of it even sounds lovely and inspired, like "Dave, the Moon Man," butI don't like "Ballad of Ray Suzuki." It just sounds like a bunch of indie boys have gotten ahold of some synthesizers and think they're Squarepusher, only they're not. For some reason that happens all too much around the US. Overall, thumbs up, and some of it surprisingly fits pretty neatly in between my now small electronic-type music section and my B&S collection. Now it also occurred to me earlier today that, without realizing it, I had worn my Stow shirt today. Coincidence? Maybe not. Maybe my shirt is prescient. I also carefully examined the Gentle Waves webpage. You know, the cover of her album reminds me of a recent release by a band I liked. Possibly due to the fact that it was a lovely odd-colored landscape, and I think at sundown. For the smut content of my post, I would like to create an addendum to the smells-inducing-memories post by Natasha. It works in some very naughty situations as well. You know those scented massage oils? Or, to take it a bit further, make your own massage oil. I think I will graciously leave how to fully utilize the oil up to your collective imaginations, so as to allow other people to get some smut in their posts. Also, all this about being shy and everything... I just wanted to make sure that people didn't get the impression we were all shy, because I'm certainly not, except in certain situations. I could go on, but I've got to make some dinner. /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick/Sandcastle Records <<->> bp224996 at ohiou.edu \ / Sandcastle Records Homepage: ICQ#5056758 | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | -Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Thessaly1 at xxx.com Fri Mar 12 03:06:55 1999 From: Thessaly1 at xxx.com (Thessaly1 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 22:06:55 EST Subject: Sinister: gentle waves 7 inch. Message-ID: <32d9ee65.36e884cf@aol.com> hello there wonderful people! :) i am wondering if there is anyone over in the uk who can order an extra copy of the gentle waves 7 inch that comes out on march 22 for me? it sounds like it is not going to be possible for me to get it here in america and i would really love to have it. i will pay for the price of the 7 inch and mailing costs of course! :) if you can be a gracious soul and do me a BIG favour i will love you forever! please contact me at Thessaly1 at aol.com cheers! jennifer in Los Angeles, CA p.s. did i mention that my birthday is in 2 weeks and i will be SO sad if i don't get a copy of this special 7 inch? :..( +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Fri Mar 12 11:57:56 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:57:56 -0000 Subject: Sinister: "It's keen!...no, it's greater than keen, it's...kugat!"* Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22523A22@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Well, last night was a surprise and a half - how easy it is to forget that Belle and Sebastian have fans who aren't us, and manage to remain blissfully happy (ignorant?) without a soupcon of electronic stimulation every morning at 11.25 am (for some reason)... Yes, the 200 Troubled Teenagers bash was, somehow, a huge success, with a good deal more than 200 not-quite-teenagers-any-more packing out the place. The music was almost entirely fantastic, especially once I was lubricated enough to shimmy (I had feared that my bip-bopping days were over, but I even outlasted my legendary party animal girlfriend :)), especially Isobel's absolutely fantastic new single which R!O!C!K!s with a lot more vim than anything our increasingly media-savvy chums in the band have done. And yes, David, it does sound like French Disko, which is a darn good thing (oh yes - a big kiss to the DJ who played the unsurpassable Lo Boob Oscillator last night - I think I wet myself with joy - and a big grin at the girl in the cloakroom who saw my Looper t-shirt and gave me files of freebies :) ). One thing that was obvious, though, is that with B&S actually having fans these days, it's going to be more and more difficult for us listerines to meet each other when we're out on the razzle. Hopefully this is going to change somewhat when the picnic season is upon us again - for 60 people to have ventured out to the first London picnic last June was something quite astonishing, and it's up to all of us to make sure we beat that this year :) But otherwise, the need for identification (if you *want* to be identified, natch) is getting more pressing, especially with Fopstock almost upon us...surely Sinister button badges would be pretty easy to do cheaply, discreet enough to not compromise your individual style (ahem), and a nice little thing to have in any case. If there are enough people interested, I'd be happy to try and sort something out myself, though distribution something that would need to be worked on...mail me privately with suggestions if you like. One more thing before I stop rambling - Vicky, Tim H, Pam, Steady Mike and myself started off last night in a groovy pub in New Cross called the Montague Arms (zebras behind the bar and all that), and it got infinitely more groovy when the regular entertainment kicked off - an old blind bloke who plays the keyboards with an almost contemptuous flair. Make no mistake, this guy is a fucking genius - there was a coachload of Dutch tourists by the stage bit, and as soon as he realised where they were from he launched into "Tulips from Amsterdam", which went down a storm (although obviously they weren't singing the right words, being foreign and all that :)). He also knew what Pam had for tea, which was a bit weird, but my god, if you ever want a wedding singer, this is the man for the job. Superb. Now you know why I don't post very often any more... Auguri e baci, Mark xxx *more film fun, chums - any suggestions? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 9803467P at xxx.uk Fri Mar 12 10:58:34 1999 From: 9803467P at xxx.uk (Deborah Elaine Prior) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:58:34 +0000 Subject: Sinister: hello all you looper darlings... Message-ID: Hiya sweeties... uh, ooh this 'posting' lark is a bit freaky... nobody will remember, i expect, but i used to be on this list last year, but then i went off to uni and stopped using email as much, so unsubscribed. but now i'm in every day emailing someone so i resubscribed last month. hope that's ok! I went to see Looper last night and it was fab and now i am listening to the album on my walkman in the library. I hadn't intened to buy the album just yet, as i don't really have much money, but the thing is that after they played we went to the pub for a few drinks and then to Fopp to hear the new Blur album... and anyone here who has been to these album playbacks will know that they always give you lots of free beer, which is icky, but which you have to drink anyway, because it's, er, free. So this means that you get a wee bit drunk and then start looking at all the cds they have lying about... and then someone foolishly reminds you that you are in possesion of a Switch card and that the tills are still open... and , well, i'm sure you know the rest. Oh dear. But still. It was a lovely day in Missing Records, but i didn't meet any Sinister bods, which is a shame. But i did see Wee Chris Geddes for the fourth time in a month. Honestly, that boy really ought to stop following me around, it's getting quite tedious now! ;-) I wanted to go and see them in Edinburgh tonight, but i have a tutorial til four and i wont make it through in time. Oh well, maybe some other time... love, debbie xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Fri Mar 12 12:07:11 1999 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Johnston) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:07:11 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Heresy begins at home Message-ID: I love that band Belle and Sebastian but the whole Looper thing doesn't really float my (paper)boat. I've got the last Looper single and as with A Spaceboy Dream, I just think "Well alright then - but so what". Except for the beginning of spaceboy dream where it sounds like " a trip to ma arse". So should I get the album or will I continue to wonder what it's all about. You know that band Steps? Don't you think they are the culmination of the 90s pop dialectic? You do? I thought as much. You don't need to be Hegel to spot the Thesis, Antithesis and Synthesis at work. First of all boy bands are all the rage. The 'That and their ilk sweep all before them. Until Girl Bands arrive and replace the boy bands. The inexorable march of progress means that only one solution follows - a boy-girl band. Is this the end of history? The thing is I always saw B&S as the antithesis of Oasis. When people used to ask me what B&S were like I'd say - "You know that band Oasis, well picture that point in the music/emotional universe furthest removed from them and that's Belle and Sebastian". (That'll be my Canadian upbringing making me define myself by what I'm not..). Anyhow if my hypothesis is correct what can the future hold - a B&S/Oasis hybrid churning out stadium filling anthems about uncertain sexuality and buses. Who knows? Dame fate is a fickle mistress. xx John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Fri Mar 12 12:43:20 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:43:20 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Sinister Bloody Sinister Message-ID: Mummy's been a bit absent recently, but here's a bulletin of things. First off, I'm sad to inform you I'm not Mrs Murdoch - a few people seem to have decided I am. I don't have the panache or the knitting proficiency, and I suspect poor Stuart would go off to school with cold toes every morning if I was in charge. The fragrant Mrs M merely sent me the email because her Hotmail account was proving troublesome - I think Mr M is going to set about it with a spanner at the weekend. Now Looper: for anyone who hasn't bought "Up A Tree" yet, do so please. It's really quite tremendous, and Stuart and Karn's story on "Impossible Things #2" is extremely reminiscent of lots of stories I've heard of long-distance email-mediated romance under the sinister covers between you smutty Sinistereens, prior to actually meeting and things going all squelchy of course. Someone asked who The Gentle Waves are: Stuart David tells me it's basically the band minus himself. Stuart's staying in cos he thinks it's a sin... etc. Someone mention that Jeepster have set up their GW site now, and a recent news mail from Jeepster (for anyone who doesn't get it) indicated the 7" is in short supply so order now if you want it. Oh, and that adverts you may be seeing for a 25 Japanese Tigermilk CD won't result in you getting it early, so don't go for it - everyone gets the real Tigermilk at the same time, apparently, and I know it can't be long because Stuart M made a trip to London to sort it out recently, and I think it's being mastered now. Maybe. On to more fickleness: doing my daily Sinister scan, I spotted the following proverb from the super David Moore: "He who f**ks with honey will come to a sticky end". Shall I use this as some sort of advert for Camber Sands? I might earn my entrance fee back with positively glowing references such as this. I will place it in florid writing above the door to my chalet, all clients get a free G&T and a foot massage. Rod's punchlines: "Goodness Father Antonio, I said pass me the loofah". Don't blame me, after Steady Mike's revelations about which section we find ourselves in Time Out magazine, I'm just trying to get us listed under the "Cheesey 70s Smut" section too. And advertise my love for "Sunset Beach". There's been a load of newspaper cuttings recently on all the Brits stuff and I've got a proper little collection. I'm "clearing copyright" just now, which makes me sound terribly important, but actually means I sent three emails, so soon I'm hoping to stick them up on the Sinister wall, for your delectation. They're very amusing, sometimes unintentionally so. I quite like Peter's one-man campaign for screaming guitar solos on the new B&S LP, and I suspect it's paying dividends already on the list. A tribute to Dave Gilmour, countless The Who odes, and some sort of Metal convention being held under our auspices?? Goodness I'd better dig out me denim. Can I mention that Linda bought Black Sab's greatest hits last year? Along with The Corries. Not on the same CD. A few customary reminders: please remember Jeepster set up a "Meetup Bulletin Board" ages ago, for people who are trying to organise Sinister (and presumably non-Sinister) liasions in various parts of the world, just to keep information that's only relevant to a few off the main list (remember there's 950 of us). I'd suggest that we keep on using this, and mark the entry titles "Sinister:" there if you want to refer to list meetups, to make it clear where we're coming from. This should keep Andy Dean happy in his big hairy cave. If you want to mail the list once and mention that you're trying to organise something locally, that's ok, just take it offline after that, maybe asking local people to mail YOU privately and then setting up something between yourselves. And then tell us what happened when you get back, to file away in the Sinister Chamber of Horrors. I'm hoping Jeepster will similarily set up a Support Group Message Board for Mr Christopher Mellan from Holyrood School, so you can similarly send messages of support offline. Finally I'm still hoping to get to the Looper doo-dah in Edinburgh this afternoon, as long as my legs stay on. So I'll see you all there then. "honey man/lady" (c. Chris Mellan 1999) xxx P.S. Finally, I'm all for covert operations, but it would actually be quite nice to recognise other Sinistereens at Cambers, the Looper things etc. I don't for a moment imagine we can get our act together to get special Sinister badges, broaches or hats organised (I'd be worried if we could), so what I suggest is this: if you wish to be identified by other Sinistereens, wear a B&S badges upside-down, a bit like an old Vincent Price film. If you haven't got one, make one. For added sinister effect, you can mutter the words of "Photo Jenny" backwards in latin under your breath is you want. Upside-down. I'm dead serious. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ar981611 at xxx.uk Fri Mar 12 14:02:51 1999 From: ar981611 at xxx.uk (Ailsa Ross) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 14:02:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Super Looper Message-ID: <36E91E8B.C0A1A7B9@student.paisley.ac.uk> Yes they were very good indeed, as has been mentioned before. B&S types in attendance were Stuart (sadly the red hair thing has been proved to be true, and for a shy retiring type, standing on CD racks with dyed burgundy hair is hardly the way to preserve anonymity - OK I never actually saw him but I was down the front, but Calumn says so so it must be true), Chris (who appears to have been wearing the same jumper for about four years now), Stevie and Mick/Nick/Chick. Oh, and obviously Stuart David. Big hello to everyone who was in King Tuts with us afterwards where we very scarily ran into Calumn Shearer who we were supposed to be meeting before the Looper show, but we hadn't told him where we were meeting then we didn't meet him in Missing, but a fortuitous last minute change of drinking venue led us to the elusive Mr Shearer sitting in King Tuts on his own hoping we would turn up there... Anyway a very good time was had by all (well by me anyway, due to the large amount of red wine consumed in practice for the all-in drinking championship of the world which is Bowlie) and that's all I wanted to say really. But everyone seems to have not seen anyone off Sinister, so I'm with Mark on the idea that we need some way to identify each other - I spent half an hour trying to pluck up the courage to approach three people in a pub without sounding like a twat if they weren't the people who we were supposed to be meeting, I mean, you try going up to a stranger in a pub and saying "are you the person I am supposed to be meeting" without sounding like a blind date set-up or something...I'm with the idea of badges anyway, but I suppose I should have told Mark that personally, well I will, but it seemed a natural progression to mention it given that it was relevant to all the Glasgow Sinisterlings who missed each other yesterday. We'll all be better organised for the Gentle Waves gig, I promise!! Erm, can't think of anything else to say, except that I thought the song about Columbo and the GameBoy was fantastic. Ailsa xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Fri Mar 12 14:27:13 1999 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 14:27:13 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The slug that turned Message-ID: Hello folks, as Pete Waterman's sour grapes crusade seems to be an ongoing thing, it's only fair to try and redress the balance by suggesting reasons why Pete Waterman should resign from the board of the BPI. If anyone wants to contribute to this cause please feel free to mail me directly at fatslug at chickmail.com where I'll chuckle away for a while, and then maybe forward them all on to the BPI, or one of those music journalists you meet hanging around Covent Garden and New Cross. Here are some examples of the sort of thing you might come up with: NUMBER ONE ---------- Pete Waterman is a board member of the BPI, the BPI have confirmed that B&S won the Brit award fairly, but Pete Waterman insists that they did not. Pete Waterman is calling the rest of the BPI a bunch of liars, and as such should resign immediately from the board. NUMBER TWO ---------- Pete Waterman is a board member of the BPI - a priveliged position of trust in which he will presumably have access to confidential information. And yet he has "tipped off" a journalist at Billboard. Obviously this highly inappropriate behaviour makes his position untenable, he must resign. NUMBER THREE ------------ The BPI's stated aim is to "Celebrate the best of British and international pop music talent." Pete Waterman produces Steps. Enough said? Kevan The Fat Slug *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Fri Mar 12 18:10:19 1999 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetryplace2) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 18:10:19 -0000 Subject: Sinister: It's a mighty long way down rock and roll, from the grosvenor cafe to la fete du bowl Message-ID: <01be6cb3$aa2bde20$046b9ac2@g5-200-1> ::::::::::WHAT'S THE DEAL, GLOCKENSPIEL?:::::::::: As previously reported, the Four Hundred Flustered Freeloaders event last night was quite a good giggle, even if it took an hour to get served at the bar. I think a special mention oughta be made of Steadymike's homage to Eric Morecambe from behind the curtain on the stage. And Casarotto showed tremendous puff and lip technique on the recorder: he's obviously been practicing. I must make it quite clear at this point that should a picture appear in a music magazine next month of someone looking like me thrashing away at a xylophone with a demented look on his face, it is an elaborate and cruel photographic hoax. ::::::::::SHAGTAGSTIC:::::::::: Has anyone been watching Queer as Folk on Channel 4? This week's episode was a corker, not least for the scene that was set in some club called Babylon. As everyone goes in they are slapped with a sticker with a number on it. This way people can put up messages on a noticeboard saying things like "Number 31, I would like to buy you a Tizer" and "Number 101, does your happylamp need buffing?". Apparently, these stickers are called "ShagTags". Though I am assured that in no way does this have anything to do with the Champion Sex Carrot of Chorlton. I think we should organise something along these lines for Camber Sands. Get to it Mr Kitchen. ::::::::::MODEM LIFE IS RUBBISH:::::::::: Me and Caleb are going to start working on the next issue of Papercuts ("the best fanzine in the world"- PJMiller) quite shortly, and we are looking for submissions. If you'd like to write a feature or an interview, or draw some pictures or something, get in touch. ...One thing we want to do for the next issue is celebrate the reissue of Tigermilk by printing people's anecdotes, experiences etc of first getting hold of, and hearing the record. So if you would like to reminisce in print, (no more than 200 words, please), or contribute anything at all, then mail me at poetryplace2 at easynet.co.uk Stevie Trousers xxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From PaperSun23 at xxx.com Fri Mar 12 20:56:44 1999 From: PaperSun23 at xxx.com (PaperSun23 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:56:44 EST Subject: Sinister: Sinister Bloody Sinister Message-ID: <988684cb.36e97f8c@aol.com> Honey gets a HUGE hug for spelling Dave Gilmour's name correctly! I woke today to find the "Guitar God" issue of Rolling Stone on my kitchen table ... you know, the one that mentioned Belle and Sebastian's habit of releasing "throwaway EPs"......? anyway, there at the top in my mom's handwriting was the misspelled David Gilmore! She gets a hug for trying. Moon Patroller Carrie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Fri Mar 12 17:55:59 1999 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 09:55:59 PST Subject: Sinister: we can't all be McGyver Message-ID: <19990312175600.10065.qmail@hotmail.com> And to think that when I first signed out an email account I thought "Grievous Angel" was too pretentious a name! And you gotta wonder what Mr. and Mrs. Parsons were into that they named their kid "Gram".... oh well, whatever trust fund gets you through the night, kid. O.K. I'm going to be in Manchester next weekend. For two days. That's where I'm spending my whole two days in England. I think I'd love to meet some of you and be your sidekick for the afternoon. To allay your fears now (c.f. mind the gap, puh-leese, qeef) I'll be adopting nor perverting not one gram of British dialect. Oops, did I just go metric. Anyway, write write write me, I can even bring non-spongiform-encephalitic cuts of beef for ya. If you ask real nice-like. Word to Cristal-balls: wait til she's 35, I heard they really heat up around then. I've seen chicks at that age get a hot flash from a stalagmite. Whatever you do, =don't= just tell her you like her! Death sentence to all crushes. If you have to, it's best to bring up the subject in the heat of a pillow fight. -Eran Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Sat Mar 13 05:46:42 1999 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 21:46:42 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Countdown to Cuteness!! Message-ID: <001f01be6d14$e0b6c340$2411020a@rebelstrange> hello happy bunnies. all you few who are expecting tiggerjammies (not as terrific as trousercuts, but it's competent, well sort of) may be assured they are on their merry way to you, expect a knock any day now. (i'm such a PR person). CUTENESS!!!!!!!!!!! wHEEEEEEEE gentle waves mania has arrived at last......i can barely wait to grasp me wee hands around those rekkids the day they arrive to me!! oh the joys of credit cards are nothing to sniff at. i just had a gander round the "GW" web sight. it will be nicer when more stuff is up, but i like the font, and the uh fuzzy pics of trees and stuff and isobel in the kerchief, really ups the cuteness ante at least fourfold, but in an understated kind of wispy way that doesn't beat you over the head. not that i'd complain about being beaten over the head by cuteness, look at france gall......in any case i'm about to read her story. i wanted to do my emails before i got all embroiled in the emotion of it. ------ AAAAAAAAAHHH isobel likes my FAVORITE book!!! "Oranges are Not the Only Fruit" is on her favorite reading list. let it be known that isobel kicks totall ass. i just about spit up the hamburger i ate a while ago. (very non-pc) could there be a classier lady?? !!!!!i think not!!!!!! i wish her page had a guestbook, i'd stalk it faithfully. maybe that's why it doesn't. crafty DAVID is aware of my ways. actually belle can rest easier. now that i'm lusting after someone a bit geographically closer, she's moved lower on priority. hey a fantasy cant' last forever..... (and you all tho't i was dead serious didn't ya) have fun snogging in camber sands, you all rakes. you glorious bastards.......i'll be toiling away with my conte crayons and setting up my DIABOLICAL scheme to win ARt Girl's fickle heart. i've decided to do something about it, something pretty while i can (YEAH yeah, laugh if you must). i'm making a mystery crush mix tape. i'm going to take careful notes on her habits of dismissal from session. and on the right day, PLINK! that tape with a care bear sticker on it, and crushy tunes from b&s, sleater-kinney, francoise, and THEEEE headcoatees is going in there. and no one will be the wiser. it is so mischievous. i've had one person tell me it's agood idea, so that's enough for me. who cares. hopefully by august i'll be gone anyway, so how ever it turns out will be just fine. Oh and Philippe with 2 p's, if i end up in the Sonoran Desert biome region, it would be "tres mignon" to learn some Gallic girl tunes with a true gallic type person. i've identified 4 sinisterites so far in the SW region. maybe we can all party. yall could crash at my place, if i had one, but i won't, so never mind. erin D. says we should have a picnic. i think i'ts a grand idea. but i'm getting ahead of myself as i'm not even there yet..we'll see. ummmm.....is Scotland by any chance doing a "wee" bit of public relations?? i've been seeing all over the tv (i'm not sure which channels, probaly news channels) a travel ad about "Experience a wee bit of Scotland!!" bagpipers, castles , and all. what up!! maybe B&S have raised the glamour profile. someone can elucidate?? there was also a "Scottish Moods" cd advertised. it's like Celtic moods, cept it's totally bagpipe songs laid over a new-agey backdrop. which i think is wankerific. if yer gonna have bagpipes, just have straight bagpipes, no need for John Tesh-esque atmosphere. it's like those hooked on Classics tapes from the 80's where they take classical themes and basically lay them on top of a cheesy-ass "rock" beat. it is the most dreadful thing imaginable. what up!!! sister disco preaches: and Isobel has proven that her naughty cowgirl outfit was not mere posturing. She's like Patsy Cline or Lorena Bobbitt, only Scotch. Loreena Bobbitt?? NOW you're talkin my language!!! Nuff said. someone last week was quoting a post where someone else said they'd like to be under a ladder that isobel was standing on wearing a skirt, and the person who quoted it said her big bottom woudl come down and crush them. i thought that was splendid. Kara you always make me laugh, it's a mystery but it's true. later i'll say something more intelligent, right now i'm under the influence of about a hundred things, none of which are chemical, okay one is, but it's prescription so get off my case already. i know you all missed me. it's a miracle i managed not to spout off like an idiot for OVER ONE WEEK!!! can you believe it??? there are people i need to write to. I will get to you!!! hello out there!!!!! LJ http://www.members.tripod.com/rebelstrange "Everyone begins to get desperate and panicky, and all of a sudden, everything they never understood, they want it all explained" --Ms. Buffat, my HS chemistry teacher +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Sat Mar 13 05:47:12 1999 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 21:47:12 -0800 Subject: Sinister: countdown to cuteness!! Message-ID: <002401be6d14$f22a8940$2411020a@rebelstrange> hello happy bunnies. all you few who are expecting tiggerjammies (not as terrific as trousercuts, but it's competent, well sort of) may be assured they are on their merry way to you, expect a knock any day now. (i'm such a PR person). CUTENESS!!!!!!!!!!! wHEEEEEEEE gentle waves mania has arrived at last......i can barely wait to grasp me wee hands around those rekkids the day they arrive to me!! oh the joys of credit cards are nothing to sniff at. i just had a gander round the "GW" web sight. it will be nicer when more stuff is up, but i like the font, and the uh fuzzy pics of trees and stuff and isobel in the kerchief, really ups the cuteness ante at least fourfold, but in an understated kind of wispy way that doesn't beat you over the head. not that i'd complain about being beaten over the head by cuteness, look at france gall......in any case i'm about to read her story. i wanted to do my emails before i got all embroiled in the emotion of it. ------ AAAAAAAAAHHH isobel likes my FAVORITE book!!! "Oranges are Not the Only Fruit" is on her favorite reading list. let it be known that isobel kicks totall ass. i just about spit up the hamburger i ate a while ago. (very non-pc) could there be a classier lady?? !!!!!i think not!!!!!! i wish her page had a guestbook, i'd stalk it faithfully. maybe that's why it doesn't. crafty DAVID is aware of my ways. actually belle can rest easier. now that i'm lusting after someone a bit geographically closer, she's moved lower on priority. hey a fantasy cant' last forever..... (and you all tho't i was dead serious didn't ya) have fun snogging in camber sands, you all rakes. you glorious bastards.......i'll be toiling away with my conte crayons and setting up my DIABOLICAL scheme to win ARt Girl's fickle heart. i've decided to do something about it, something pretty while i can (YEAH yeah, laugh if you must). i'm making a mystery crush mix tape. i'm going to take careful notes on her habits of dismissal from session. and on the right day, PLINK! that tape with a care bear sticker on it, and crushy tunes from b&s, sleater-kinney, francoise, and THEEEE headcoatees is going in there. and no one will be the wiser. it is so mischievous. i've had one person tell me it's agood idea, so that's enough for me. who cares. hopefully by august i'll be gone anyway, so how ever it turns out will be just fine. Oh and Philippe with 2 p's, if i end up in the Sonoran Desert biome region, it would be "tres mignon" to learn some Gallic girl tunes with a true gallic type person. i've identified 4 sinisterites so far in the SW region. maybe we can all party. yall could crash at my place, if i had one, but i won't, so never mind. erin D. says we should have a picnic. i think i'ts a grand idea. but i'm getting ahead of myself as i'm not even there yet..we'll see. ummmm.....is Scotland by any chance doing a "wee" bit of public relations?? i've been seeing all over the tv (i'm not sure which channels, probaly news channels) a travel ad about "Experience a wee bit of Scotland!!" bagpipers, castles , and all. what up!! maybe B&S have raised the glamour profile. someone can elucidate?? there was also a "Scottish Moods" cd advertised. it's like Celtic moods, cept it's totally bagpipe songs laid over a new-agey backdrop. which i think is wankerific. if yer gonna have bagpipes, just have straight bagpipes, no need for John Tesh-esque atmosphere. it's like those hooked on Classics tapes from the 80's where they take classical themes and basically lay them on top of a cheesy-ass "rock" beat. it is the most dreadful thing imaginable. what up!!! sister disco preaches: and Isobel has proven that her naughty cowgirl outfit was not mere posturing. She's like Patsy Cline or Lorena Bobbitt, only Scotch. Loreena Bobbitt?? NOW you're talkin my language!!! Nuff said. someone last week was quoting a post where someone else said they'd like to be under a ladder that isobel was standing on wearing a skirt, and the person who quoted it said her big bottom woudl come down and crush them. i thought that was splendid. Kara you always make me laugh, it's a mystery but it's true. later i'll say something more intelligent, right now i'm under the influence of about a hundred things, none of which are chemical, okay one is, but it's prescription so get off my case already. i know you all missed me. it's a miracle i managed not to spout off like an idiot for OVER ONE WEEK!!! can you believe it??? there are people i need to write to. I will get to you!!! hello out there!!!!! LJ http://www.members.tripod.com/rebelstrange "Everyone begins to get desperate and panicky, and all of a sudden, everything they never understood, they want it all explained" --Ms. Buffat, my HS chemistry teacher +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Arigreen23 at xxx.com Sat Mar 13 05:44:56 1999 From: Arigreen23 at xxx.com (Arigreen23 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 00:44:56 EST Subject: Sinister: jack kerouac's b-day Message-ID: <44559000.36e9fb58@aol.com> happy jack kerouac's birthday everyone!! today in school i announced it, and later tonite went to IHOP and read aloud from the Portable Jack Kerouac. I know there are some Keraoacians out there on th' list, and let's not forget "Kerouac's beckoning with open arms" in "Le Pastie..."...happy day you all! ari +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tunnock at xxx.au Sat Mar 13 14:54:41 1999 From: tunnock at xxx.au (chris) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 00:54:41 +1000 Subject: Sinister: Swedish band Kent Message-ID: <36EA7C31.138E@alphalink.com.au> I heard a track from Swedish band Kent on Melbourne radio's 3RRR, and I like what I heard... so I would appreciate some opinions on their recordings from folks in the know! Scandanavian friendly Chris +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sat Mar 13 16:14:53 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 11:14:53 -0500 Subject: Sinister: on ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux. Message-ID: <199903131114_MC2-6DDD-F0EA@compuserve.com> Hi De Hi Fluffy Bunnies, For all those who love posting lists (top records/books/filums/etc.) check out http://www.jeepster.co.uk/thegentlewaves/thingsilike/index.htm for Bel's Best. The list of favourite films alone should provide fulsome fuel for all the Isobel fantasists out there, although some may be disappointed not to find Confessions Of A Window Cleaner amongst them :) Haven't managed to catch Weathershow on the radio yet, though, so the "Belle & Sebastian minus Stuart M" sound remains an enigma. Lots of lyrics to peruse at this site too: maybe young Master Melon Balls should check out the words to "Evensong". Better go now, as I have to pen a message for Jeepster's Bowlie Board to advertise the fact that my daughter Sally & I have 2 spare places in our chalet to share: hope we find someone fragrant. David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Sat Mar 13 17:27:16 1999 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 17:27:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Ker Message-ID: <36EA9FF4.35D5493F@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Happy birthday kerouac! Good red hair Stu ! Marco#7. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Sat Mar 13 16:26:50 1999 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Fluffy Sarah) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 16:26:50 +0000 Subject: Sinister: i wish i had been the one to name a cucumber the cucumber., In-Reply-To: <36e823cd.5017624@post.demon.co.uk> References: <36e823cd.5017624@post.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <47qm5IAKHp62EwFP@elsato97.demon.co.uk> Hello! Looper yes indeed. I've never seen such a huge collection of parkas in my life!!! Blimey Charley! And I also say my NEW hero after Mick Cooke that is. It is the Bloke With The Quiff. I wanted his autograph! Look at me, up a twee again.... I hope you all know thats Stuart David having Harvey Williams up the arse.... Bah. Got to go to work soon. Can't think of anything else to write. I'll stop now so you can giggle over my oh so witty joke... I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Sarah http://www.elsato97.demon.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From padraic_fresheire at xxx.com Sat Mar 13 17:49:08 1999 From: padraic_fresheire at xxx.com (padraic doorey) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 09:49:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: *mwah* dawhlings, it has been a while, non? Message-ID: <19990313174908.9113.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com> hi everyone... i have no idea what is going on on the list these days....i assume there is quite a lot of bowlie weekender shenanigans and the like....ooh 'twill be quite the snazz, non? what is on in my cd player of late ranges form hefner to the new beth orton album....lervely. also, try to get your hands on "try for summer, plan for fall" an amazing compliation put out by short round records in san francisco. i think it costs around ten dollars and can be ordered online at www.shortround.com. delish! 25 tracks for the price of a few pints...go on you know you want to. anyhow, as we all know belle and sebastian are playing dublin shortly after the bowlie in the most bootifool venue that could ever be. the olympia is one of my fave venues in the world and will be so suited to the lovely belle & sebastian. things about the olympia is that it is right in the centre of dublin and therefore there are endless amounts of possibilities for pre and post show gatherings....if anyone is up for this, please let me know by emailing me (not the list) and i'll try put something together. if anyone is coming from overseas or from outside of dublin, kinlay house is a really cheap hostel with excellent amenities and is also conveniently located about two blocks from the venue... as i said before i'm no longer on the list so if someone already had this idea all i can say is "ooops, sorry dawhling, i'll make it up to you with a glass of champers next time out paths cross" but if not, please do get in touch. also looper play whelans next saturday night! pints before? philippe garnier are you still there? dawhlings, until next time, lady penelope, gateau du wizz. ************************************************ "and now the session's over and it's time to go, am i just another shot in your portfolio?" ************************************************ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Thessaly1 at xxx.com Sat Mar 13 19:21:17 1999 From: Thessaly1 at xxx.com (Thessaly1 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 14:21:17 EST Subject: Sinister: second plea for 7 inch. Message-ID: fellow sinisterines, so far only one person has contacted me regarding my request for a copy of the gentle waves 7 inch being sent across the pond to me. this person has not yet ordered the record for himself, but said he will try to do so. is there anyone out there who has perhaps pre-ordered two who would be willing to share with me? it is depressing enough that i am going to be 25 in 2 weeks. :( having isobel's sweet voice to listen to on that fateful day would make it a little more enjoyable. :) pretty please? with a cherry on top? jennifer- Thessaly1 at aol.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Sat Mar 13 22:38:01 1999 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 22:38:01 GMT Subject: Sinister: The "It" boy Message-ID: <36ede8b9.3252038@post.demon.co.uk> Dwarlings, t seems that that the curse of Manchester struck Looper. Their van got broken into on Wednesday, very sad. I hope they won't be too scared to drop by for tea and hot muffins in the future. Whoop-de-fucking-do. It's Jack Kerouac's birthday. Let's have a big fucking party to celebrate the drunken womanising alcoholic Nazi illiterate pseud's special day. Jack Kerouac writes books for people with the "Why?" poster on their walls. Congratulations to Fluffy for her joke and for providing me with an image that will haunt me all weekend. I'm watching the Romo top ten. I liked Philip Sallon, he was funny. And Boy George on the A-team. And when did Marco Perroni turn into Buster Bloodvessel? Duran Duran are number one. What? No Orlando. There is no justice. Simon Le Bon is Wumpkinny's next door neighbour. Did I mention that we stayed across the road from Leonard Cohen in Montreal, but he wasn't in. That's the kind of star-studded life I lead. My lifestyle column starts in the Sunday Times next week, which I promise will be full of tales of my delightful soirees with Meg Gallagher, Tamara, Kate Moss and Stephen Poncenby-Trousers. Love Tag xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Sat Mar 13 22:38:03 1999 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 22:38:03 GMT Subject: Sinister: The "It" boy Message-ID: <36ede8b9.3252038@post.demon.co.uk> Dwarlings, t seems that that the curse of Manchester struck Looper. Their van got broken into on Wednesday, very sad. I hope they won't be too scared to drop by for tea and hot muffins in the future. Whoop-de-fucking-do. It's Jack Kerouac's birthday. Let's have a big fucking party to celebrate the drunken womanising alcoholic Nazi illiterate pseud's special day. Jack Kerouac writes books for people with the "Why?" poster on their walls. Congratulations to Fluffy for her joke and for providing me with an image that will haunt me all weekend. I'm watching the Romo top ten. I liked Philip Sallon, he was funny. And Boy George on the A-team. And when did Marco Perroni turn into Buster Bloodvessel? Duran Duran are number one. What? No Orlando. There is no justice. Simon Le Bon is Wumpkinny's next door neighbour. Did I mention that we stayed across the road from Leonard Cohen in Montreal, but he wasn't in. That's the kind of star-studded life I lead. My lifestyle column starts in the Sunday Times next week, which I promise will be full of tales of my delightful soirees with Meg Gallagher, Tamara, Kate Moss and Stephen Poncenby-Trousers. Love Tag xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atremp at xxx.be Sat Mar 13 23:02:54 1999 From: atremp at xxx.be (Annie Tremp) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 00:02:54 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990314000254.007a1500@mach.vub.ac.be> hi everyone i don't know how it's been elsewhere but the weather's been great over here for the past two days. you could actually (well, almost) walk outside in your t-shirt. and to think that thursday i was still walking around with my scarf and mittens on... anyway, it's perfect picnic weather right now, so i hope it stays like this! i remember when i was small(er) i would go out on picnics with my aunt and uncle. i'd sit in a wheelbarrow (had to look up this one up, so i guess the list helps me with my english:o)) and they'd push me around the fields until we'd find the perfect place to eat. it always makes me smile when i remember... i didn't find this when looking through the archive so i hope it hasn't been said yet : my mum told me that the boy who played sebastian in the tv series was cecile aubry's son, she thinks he was called mehdi. she didn't watch it as a kid though, what a shame. going to bed now, annie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Sun Mar 14 13:45:17 1999 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (weejay) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 13:45:17 -0000 Subject: Sinister: go wild! go wild! go wild in the country.... In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990314000254.007a1500@mach.vub.ac.be> Message-ID: <199903141338.NAA22642@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> Hey! Sinisterines! Annie Tremp said that > i don't know how it's been elsewhere but the weather's been great over here > for the past two days. you could actually (well, almost) walk outside in > your t-shirt. and to think that thursday i was still walking around with my > scarf and mittens on... anyway, it's perfect picnic weather right now, so i > hope it stays like this! Yessssss! it's summer!!!! what am I doing in here when I could be running away to the hills? Gah, work, research into adapting "La Terre" for the screen. which isn't bad as work goes. And yes, I too saw the very good "80s Romo" top ten, though the only really good bits IMHO were Adam & The Ants and a ten-second clip of "Go wild in the country," officially one of the greatest songs ever. Glad midge ure got rid of that perverse & perverted moustache too, eventually. Not the best ambassador for your country. I wonder if anyone here's in the same boat or up the same tree as me in that I expected HMV etc not to stock the looper album and ordered it from the website and it still hasn't come, so shuddup about it pretty please. it got a terrible review in Select didn't it? That magazine has gone downhill so much... Oh, sorry, am I rambling again? No? Well, I also have to tell you if I haven't before (i may well have...) that my scriptwriting tutor Jon Sanders has a film out that he co-wrote & directed and it's playing at independent cinemas now, so you're all advised to go along and see it (and that's not advertising cos I'm not getting paid) ASAP, though it is a very miserable film (but good) and it'll hardly cheer you up. I'm not telling you the name cos that could be advertising, but if you e-mail me I will. I think pete waterman should resign because he's ugly and there's no place for ugliness in pop. And before I get a deluge kids, remember that ugliness comes from the inside and Petey has a twisted evil crone inside him. And there's going to be a proper Blue Glow website soon, not the paltry one around now, thanks to the lovely Marceline, who can do HTML, still a mystery to me... love, james xxxxxxxxxxxxx "Weej! Shut Up!" - everybody, all the time. Blue Glow is at; http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/blueglow.html And you can visit me at http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/wjpages.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Skreddy56 at xxx.com Sun Mar 14 17:02:40 1999 From: Skreddy56 at xxx.com (Skreddy56 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 12:02:40 EST Subject: Sinister: loooper album in the us Message-ID: hey kids and cats- you folks may not remember me (I think the last thing i posted was chords for "beautiful"...), but oh do i remember you. and i have a pertinent and potentially life-threatening question for you. did anyone mailorder the looper album from sub pop? actually, i guess the real question is, has anyone received the looper album from sub pop yet? for i have not. and i weep. punk rock, yr pal matt oh yes, and if you care to reply personally, please send mail to punkrockmonkey at yahoo.com. ok? ok! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sun Mar 14 20:03:40 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 12:03:40 PST Subject: Sinister: sweet,sweet thing Message-ID: <19990314200340.16996.qmail@hotmail.com> Dear List, I feel like I've been away from this list for ages,Mrs.Murdoch,I can sympathise with your frustrations with hotmail. I wrote this big thing about the Brit Awards..but that would just be boring old news now,right!? Anyways...I was very excited when i watched,i jumped up and down and i find myself attracted to The One That Didn't Speak,i like his strangely alluring face and sensual eyebrows...but belle and sebastian and that big hand moving around at the door was the best bits (oh and that blondie from boyzone, "When the going gets tough!" complete with masculine punches in the air..to die for!) but i'd never even heard of most of those bands. So what's all this about news members and old members...I'm an "oldie",since I've been on this list I've fathered 10 children, TAKE THAT Slick Willy. I've never felt uncool with the young uns, *raspy cough* heh heh heh! what's this, a Stuart David poster and i haven't been informed?! one day,i WILL meet stuart david and when i say "stuart" it will echo in the winds and his hair will flutter and be wind-blown and that is how it will feel like when doves cry. i don't want to talk about belle and sebastian, stuart murdoch is a boring old biddy! i want to talk about more important things--- like prom! (i'm just kidding about the old biddy bit,i love stuart murdoch,if he was a girl he would be my sweet bernadette)i got my prom dress,i'm so excited..it's a corset/ball gown old-style heaving bosom type of dress, mothers are so curious..all they want to know about is who the date will be. Don't they realise that boys are just fashion accessories? how come so much stuff is happening right now!? what's this chalet buisness! double-beds! i want to go and steal tag's y-fronts and put them in the freezer--- imagine his embarrasement when he can't find his underwear! and then i'll draw toothpaste moustaches on honey when he's asleep...he'll be totally humiliated when he wakes up! which brings me to some serious advice i need..exactly how is the cheapest way to fly? (to england or scotland) do you go onto those travel cuts places on the internet or do you call up air canada? just a ticket mind,no fancy package deals or accomodation (i can sleep in the elevator)is it the earlier you call the cheaper you go or do have to fly with the cargo or something? i've just found out that planting trees in northern quebec and staying in shantys with hairy lumberjacks will bring me lots of money,but untill then..cheapness is the way. i'm going to montreal this thursday,do any montrealers know of some good shoe shops (i need to buy prom shoes) mail me please,i know prom is lots of fun,but we can't help it if people want to talk MUSIC instead,sheesh. bye bye sweets, xxxxxxx genevieve "Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining,bitch." Stuart Murdoch Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rehakk at xxx.edu Mon Mar 15 08:21:10 1999 From: rehakk at xxx.edu (Kimberly Rehak) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 03:21:10 -0500 Subject: Sinister: listen johnny Message-ID: <02b401be6ebc$c8d40e00$9e84c38d@rehakk.alleg.edu> i've come to realize this evening that slow grafitti is the best song to cry to. too bad this walkman of mine doesn't have a repeat mode. anyone agree? oh, and i was just wondering: sleep the clock around has become a favorite of my ears. are there any bands that have this same sort of sound? (if this is a comprehensive inquiry at all) where does everyone go on the weekends?? sorry, KIMberly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From L.Kerr at xxx.uk Mon Mar 15 11:45:56 1999 From: L.Kerr at xxx.uk (L. Kerr) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:45:56 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Shuffle forwards Message-ID: Dear chums Looper in Edinburgh report... Best bit was the song which had photos of Karn on the televisions. I think it was particularly sweet to do this, in this cynical age. William HAgue would be proud. Worst bit was not seeing the little silver StuartD, spinning around on a turntable, a highlight of the previous gig. Avalanche was packed, and even tho we looked for sinisterines with upside-down badges, there were too many to inspect individually. We wandered up to Deacon Brodies, but as the most likely candidates for a meet-up were six big fat blokes in matching ties and beards, we went for a Chinese. Sorry if we missed anybody... I too am particularly fond of The Gentle Waves pages, with Isabelle in Lara from Dr Zhivago get-up. I am disapointed that she didn't include wearing cowboy hats and farting in bed as some of the things she likes, as well as the inclusion of the Delta of Venus by Anais Nin, but that is only because it is crap. Linda xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Mon Mar 15 06:45:50 1999 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 22:45:50 -0800 Subject: Sinister: kerouac can kiss my arse!!! as can allen ginsberg. Message-ID: <001101be6eaf$78192ac0$3811020a@rebelstrange> >Whoop-de-fucking-do. It's Jack Kerouac's birthday. Let's have a big >fucking party to celebrate the drunken womanising alcoholic Nazi illiterate pseud's special day. Jack Kerouac writes books for people with the "Why?" poster on their walls. ........TEEHEE!!!!! mctaggart, truly thou art a wise man amongst fools, for that statement alone. i could be speaking without the proper education (when am i not??) but i was on several occasions forced to suffer through the tapes of kerouac's spoken word performances. after a few hours of unfunny race-track stories ("He bet on the wrong horse!! it's funny!!!!"--my crusty hippie boss) and talk of womens' twitching asses, i was about ready to kill everyone within spitting distance. that soured me to mr. kerouac for pretty much the rest of my life, despite Le Pastie. he struck me as quite misogynistic and self-important and full of himself and his own fucking manhood. pardon my FRRRRench but tag you got me in the mood, i blame you. I'm also sick of people sucking up to Ginsberg. he was a pedophile. and his poems arent' all that interesting. OOOOH rebellious.....get over it. bukowski my ass. arthur miller henry something norman mailer dh lawrence, BITE ME!!!!! machismo is SOOO over. i forgot to post this the other day, it's what i forgot. i entered "belle and sebastian" into the internet anagram server(http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/ and got sometimes accurate, sometimes hilarious, and sometimes frightening results. check this out y'all. Essential able band Balinese absent lad Nasal beastie bleed Banal beast in Leeds Eden lass bent labia A labia needn't bless Banal lesbian steed Beast seen in ballad Ballad seen its bane Abba's lead sentinel Seeable blind Satan Bald Lebanese saint Bald lesbian senate Bible lad seen Satan Tall-ass Debbie Anne Lebanese stab Linda the other thing, i saw the Brit awards abc cast. it sucked!! it was all chopped up. i watched all 2 hours straight thru and not ONE second of dick and rick. it didnt' air. i did get to see robbie williams. what is up with him? i dont' think he should be allowed to exist. it's like he doesnt' belong there. he should be back in his boy band or whatever, or get a different haircut. what is his deal? and why during the eurythmics thing (i love annie lennox though) were they wearing Union Jacks, but their backup singers had like huge cowboy hats on?? that didn't make any sense whatsoever. the only thing i liked was the Abba tribute, it was super-cheesy. i think stephin merrit would approve. there were like 50 kids on stage though, and i didnt' knwo who any of them were, who were the girls drssed in white?? and Bono dissing the millenium was great, he is a big cheeseball, but someone had to friggin say it. I'll reiterate. the millenium is a JOKE. do not be brainwashed. now i see on tv people are trying to have "millenium babies' there is a big rush on when is the right day to conceive. F***K that!@!! it is so totally meaningless and stupid. i'm protesting the millenium, because it doesn't exist. it's not real. Fight the power!! i beg of you do not be seduced. sorry. that' smy rant for today. actually it's my second rant. okay then. i'm off to read the GW lyrics, i didn't do that last time. *sigh* could there be anything cuter? Actually i had a really surreal b/s dream. this dream was wacked out. it had lots more perverted things in it involving the cute art girl, but the b/s part was i was with friends and b/s were all there, in a big room where a guy who looked sorta like frank zappa, but more redneck and oily and with a shiny suit jacket on, was throwing darts at all of us and just barely missing. and everyone was freaked out. he was basically Satanic. he brought out Jenny McCarthy and put her bra on his head and then started comparing her chest size to girls who were there. he kept throwing darts at poor isobel who was there with her mum. she cowered under a table and i felt bad for her. he tried to put jenny mc.'s bra on her, but it was WAAY too big. then in the dream her little brother (i think) ran in and said that a dog had died. isobel started crying and then everyone ran to the Campbell mansion which was full of portraits of all their dogs. it was a very important dog who was old. i think her name was sophie. we went up stairs and looked at the dog, but then she raised her head and i said "she moved, she's not dead" and then everyone esle was all happy. we were apparently in glasgow. it was a really messed up dream. okay bye and later LJ http://www.members.tripod.com/rebelstrange "Everyone begins to get desperate and panicky, and all of a sudden, everything they never understood, they want it all explained" --Ms. Buffat, my HS chemistry teacher +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Arigreen23 at xxx.com Mon Mar 15 13:15:06 1999 From: Arigreen23 at xxx.com (Arigreen23 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 08:15:06 EST Subject: Sinister: people mad about me posting kerouac's birthday Message-ID: <46e3de39.36ed07da@aol.com> ok, i'm sorry...i didn't mean to offend anyone...i was just saying it...i don't "idolize" kerouac nor ginsberg nor hold them to be some god-like figures...sorry if it came out like that in my post. i don't know the life stories of either, but i know that they were far from perfect, and i don't mean to come off like i'm saying that either...::sigh::... ari +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From PIA96SJP at xxx.uk Mon Mar 15 13:17:20 1999 From: PIA96SJP at xxx.uk (S.J.Peet) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 13:17:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: have you got any i.d. ? Message-ID: identifying ourselves as sinisterees... hmm... i'm actually with honey on this one - wearing a b&s badge upside down or similar seems much more in character with the band, list etc... ...but before i saw that i was thinking that i've got pretty good access to resources for getting t-shirts etc. made up (uni. sports teams/clubs etc.) so if there was to be a unanimous decision by the list for something of that order, and the only obstacle to it happening was someone willing and able to organise it, well i should be able to sort something out, but personally i think maybe not, unless it was very subtle ? and as for all these postings about unrequieted love (is that how you spell it ?) well, i can cetainly identify with that, but i take solice in believing that there's something magical in waiting for that next little sign, that coy smile or sideways glance, i'd never be able to burst the bubble... but it does get to you though. i just worry that maybe she could be *the one* and i might let her slip away ? anyway the sun is shining and it looks all spring like, so i'm off to sit in the park with a flask of tea and some simon armitage poems. still full of good intentions stevie p. p.s. despite being a fan from the beginning and a listee for quite a while this is my first post, so if my e-mail contains any of that annoying extra technical stuff that was complained about let me know and i'll try and get rid for next time. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ecsamenz at xxx.uk Mon Mar 15 18:18:20 1999 From: ecsamenz at xxx.uk (Amy) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 13:18:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: sun Message-ID: hello sinisteries is it an acknowledged fact that sun breeds creativity? cos i reckon most b&s songs were written in sunny weather, they sound warm to me. or on warm evenings. amy xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jimgrund at xxx.fr Mon Mar 15 13:58:51 1999 From: jimgrund at xxx.fr (Jan Imgrund) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:58:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: belle in sun and tinder in winter In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <199903151400.PAA21634@front3.grolier.fr> Bonjour la liste, > i reckon most b&s songs were written in sunny > weather, they sound warm to me Hey, this is extremely true. They sound like lying on your back in the sun, in a park, where there are quite improbably no ghetto- blasters blasting rap-songs near you, and thinking of complicated, but very harmless nonsense... and this brings me to a (very) late follow-up to the question of the difference between B&S and Tindersticks music: they are both warm, but Tindersticks is the warmth of sitting inside, staring at the chimney fire and sipping some expensive alcoholic drink while there is a major snowstorm going on outside; while B&S is the warmth of a sunny day, sitting on a blanket in a park, sipping some non- expensive, non-alcoholic drink, and so on (see above). B&S is a summer band and Tindersticks a winter-band. Too bad that Tindersticks' new album is due to release in August... Good that this problem is solved now. But there still is another problem: why are there so many B&S fans who are also Pulp fans, like myself? I cannot see that these 2 have anything in common, except that the music is extremely good. Please help. Oh, and I recruited my first B&S fan! I am proud. But I must admit it was very easy: she was a Nick Drake fan already. Being a fan of Nick Drake and never hearing of B&S: what a terrible fate. Like being catholic and never having heard of the pope. But who is still catholic, nowadays. Ironic sigh. S&M and Bible studies, Jan The Dark Site of the Moon: http://perso.club-internet.fr/jimgrund/index.html "Illusion is the first of all pleasures" - Oscar Wilde +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MWaggner at xxx.com Mon Mar 15 14:27:12 1999 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 09:27:12 EST Subject: Sinister: people mad about me posting kerouac's birthday Message-ID: In a message dated 99-03-15 08:17:31 EST, you write: > ok, i'm sorry...i didn't mean to offend anyone...i was just saying it...i > don't "idolize" kerouac nor ginsberg nor hold them to be some god-like > figures.. NOTICE OF SINISTER MEET-UP There will be a HUGE book burning held on April 1, 1999. Everyone should bring books they find silly, offensive and not in accordance with their personal taste, philosophy and politics. Guest speaker will be the Reverend Jerry Falwell -- who is contributing his collection of Teletubby coloring books and all the lavender and purple crayons from his crayola boxes to start the blaze. Topic will be "Learning to Not Learn: Building a Politically Correct World My Way." Free gift certificates to WalMart's censored "idea free" music and book departments will be given to the first 100 people to contribute books to the bonfire. Don't apologize ari -- it's just the Sinister form of literary criticism. And may I add that Joe DiMaggio, noted for his mention in a Simon & Garfunkle song, died last week? Bonus points for adding baseball cards and 60's folk albums to the fire... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Mar 15 15:38:46 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 16:38:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: 10 Waronkington Place Message-ID: <01be6ef9$ea48bc60$LocalHost@itjfvkli> It's a long time since we heard from list hero Lenny Waronker, isn't it? I'd almost forgotten about his very existence until the other day, when I was quietly perusing the booklet that accompanies the excellent compact disc release, "The Mad, Mad World of Soundtracks". Track number eighteen is a pleasant ditty entitled "Malibu U", performed by Harpers Bizarre. It is produced Lenny Waronker. Yes, that's right, I said "produced".. It would seem that the song comes from a television programme hosted by Rick Nelson (phwoooarrrr!) set in a summer school, where one could enjoy "such subjects as surfing, sunbathing, girl-watching and a field trip to a bikini factory". Top one. Sounds a bit like the Bowlie Weekender. According to the Jeepster website, the Camber Sands shindig is for "the intelligentsia of the alternative scene", or something like that. I wonder if there'll be an exam on the way in, or whether everyone has to clutch their exam certificates, Linda Kerr style? Anyway, I can't go. I don't go to places that don't allow women in (apart from public lavatories), so I can't go to places where non-intelligent people are banned either. Because they won't let me in. I love the Genital Waves website! The best bit is "Things I Like", in which Isobel lists a few of her favourite things, so that we can get to know her a little bit better. These are the ones I liked best: Going to Brownies; Telling the time; Dougal and the Blue Cat; Stork SB Margarine; Tying my own shoelaces; "I'm Only a Poor Little Sparrow" and "There's No One Quite Like Grandma" by the Wilfred Bramble School Choir; Playing with my belly button. Mister Moore, I hope you and your daughter have got your jim-jams and johnnies packed. With a bit of luck, I'll get that tape off to you this week, so you'll be able to back me up in my deluded theory that Looper's "Ballad of Ray Suzuki" sounds like Denim's "The Great Grape Ape-Hangers". Speaking of which, John Johnstone, I think you should borrow a copy of the Looper album, or get someone to tape it, to see whether you like it enough to justify shelling out loads of cash for it. I think it's good, but I've only listened to it once so far. I guess that's the trouble with spoken word things, not enough to get your teeth stuck into (the exception that proves the rule is TV's Jason King, of course). Keith, what's the biggest selling spoken word album of all time? The only birthday I'm interested in is Lenny Waronker's, and possibly the Queen Mother's hundredth. By the way, was it Mister Murdoch who found those secret medical reports about the Queen's piles in a ditch in Ayr? I bet it bloody was, you know! Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From viscount at xxx.net Mon Mar 15 16:18:24 1999 From: viscount at xxx.net (Andrew Tracey) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 16:18:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: B+S and Tindersticks Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19990315161824.006e63d0@clara.net> All this talk of the seasons and how they relate to songs has indeed struck a chord. It ties in with a discussion which sprung up on the Tindersticks list. For those familiar with Tindersticks' albums the first one (cover: painting of a flamenco dancer) is autumnal (all those reds and browns). The second album (cover: suit fitting in black and white) has a wintery feel whereas Curtains is more spring/summer (cover: roses coming into bloom). Maybe the new Tindersticks album will be summery disco tunes. For those who are interested, it's going to be called 'Simple Pleasures' As an aside, do the Americans on the list use the word 'autumnal' or do they use a descriptive word based on 'fall' like 'the weather was very fallian today' So much music is all 'look at me, look at me, aren't I fab'. I think this is what connects fans of B+S, Tindersticks and also Pulp, as Jan said. All these bands don't *demand* our attention like acts such as Oasis, the Verve and Robbie Williams. They seem to say 'We quite like the music we play and it would be quite nice if you'd give it a listen. We're not going to force you to listen to it though'. I suppose the lyrics of B+S and Pulp also share the theme that a lot of them are about people other than the author. There's the sense of the quiet outsider, peering through the windows of other peoples lives. Due to a bit of luck I had at the bookmakers I had money to burn when I went out to purchase the Looper album so I bought the Smog CD 'Knock Knock'. It is bloody fantastic and I'm wondering if any Sinisterines have any recommendations as to their previous output. I vaguely remember a song about horses which was quite good. I've only been on the list a month or so and I was amazed at the length of all the postings. 'How can they all find so much to write about', I thought. As this debut post confirms, it's easier than I thought. bye for now Andrew Tracey +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jlphilli at xxx.edu Mon Mar 15 16:51:28 1999 From: jlphilli at xxx.edu (jennifer phillips-bacher) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 10:51:28 -0600 Subject: Sinister: a girl could lose herself in london! LOSE HERSELF! Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990315105128.00923100@students.wisc.edu> Hello superstars. Golly, I'm tired. I'm still recovering from the week that I spent in merry London towne, as well as reestablishing my personal space that was continually invaded during my British Airways flight 299 by a strange smelling man with legs and arms the length of the mighty Sequoia. For all listees who have not yet experienced the world of the London Sinisterian, let me tell ya, it's absolute bonkers!!! They're a brilliant lot, accomodating to the extreme, and (now don't tell anyone....) they drink gallons of beer! I was appalled, yet vaguely aroused. Stevie Trousers took me to see Looper, but all I really saw was an itsy-bitsy corner of a television. Therefore, I missed Stuart David's Solid Gold dance routine. I heard he was wearing gold lame. Pam and SteadyMike are morsels of delightfulness. I think I'll move in with them and be a personal servant. I was also thrilled to finally meet Tim H!O!P!kins, Sarah, Kevan, Andy, Funkyseb, Mark C, and if there are any more of you that I haven't mentioned, I'm sorry. You can give me some lashings when I next come to London. We saw Sarah Cracknell one day. It was my only celebrity sighting, unfortunately. She was snorting grapefruit juice. Keep that one under your hats. Until we meet again, jennifer lynn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Mon Mar 15 16:58:08 1999 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen - jeepster) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 16:58:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Amphetameanies gig References: <3.0.6.32.19990315161518.007cb520@mail.force9.net> Message-ID: <36ED3C20.EA0F0639@jeepster.co.uk> mick cooke (trumpeter with b&s) has just sent me this message which he's asked to be swiftly forwarded to all of you pretty things, so here we are... Mick Cooke wrote: > > Hope you're well. Just giving you details of an Amphetameanies gig on > Friday, > > Cheers, > Mick > > The Amphetameanies will play: > > Friday 19th March > Nice'n'Sleazy > Sauchiehall Street > Glasgow > > With Skahound Surround Sound System > and other Special Guests > > Doors 9pm > £2 entry if you haven't yet seen them , they are VERY ska, but don't let this put you off, they're also very good, which makes up for it ;) get along there if you can, if not visit their website at http://www.redfoot.force9.co.uk/meanies/ cheers david ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.reavy at xxx.uk Mon Mar 15 17:05:13 1999 From: p.reavy at xxx.uk (Peter Reavy) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 17:05:13 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: Re: Isobel book list Message-ID: Lit-bores, Isobel's book list says Robert Wilser but I'd guess it should be Walser. There are two writers called Robert Walser. One has written an academic study on heavy metal, another lived in Switzerland and wrote little stories. I'll bet a large Toblerone against your Krokus LP it's number 2. I learnt about him on the Fall list about a year back and Fall fans invented the internet, pal. Do we think Iz has heard of Jean Seberg, at all. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Mon Mar 15 17:47:11 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 17:47:11 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: let's the sunshine in Message-ID: WOW! Springstime is here.And I have no stitch to wear...and my supervisor has told me I had better fastened my work rythm, like if writing Fortran codes was adjusting screws in a Rover factory.But any work becomes a more pleasant labour with sunlight across your window. But no better ocasion to remark how a spring (I was going to write 'springy' but in a lucid moment I have checked my dictionary and figured out how far it's this term from what I meant)music is Belle and Seb one. Tunes to be whistled while walking on lawn , taking off cardies for first time in a year and enjoying some Lilt really-really-really chilled can. There are really obvious examples ('Mayfly', 'Ease your feet in the sea'...) but what is your choice as this spring Sinister soundtrack? I cannot pick just one, after finding miraculously a tenner in some pocket when I thought I would have to survive on 1.5 pounds until next Monday, I want to whistle all at once! A. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From macarthur at xxx.com Mon Mar 15 17:25:18 1999 From: macarthur at xxx.com (Graham MacArthur) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 17:25:18 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Countdown to Cuteness!! Message-ID: Like lesie jo, I thought about and actually *made* a crush tape...full of wonderful "I love you" music, even with little film quotes in-between, this was at a time I was obbsessed with Nina Simone before i decided she sounded too manly (not that it's a bad thing...I just can't stand Tracey Chapman after a nasty experience linked with the sound of her voice) ......but the tape never got given to my then, object of affection. So if anyone would like to feel loved, i'll send you a copy and you'll feel like a million dollars! maybe i shouldn't offer such a thing, but it's wasting away without a home, after all, i don't want it - it would be like loving myself! Good Luck Lesie, and why not use a Huggy Bear sticker on the tape, rather than a care bear one...they're so wussy. and sleater kinney are ACE ACE ACE. three times. I must say, I was filled with Glee at the thought of Duran Duran being the number one in the new romantic programme. How can your heart *not* skip a beat at View to a Kill? and Simon Le Bon, for someone who basically looks like a chubby schoolkid, (ideally complete with public school silly cap thing), has done pretty well for himself: "We had competions to see who could get the best girls......of course, I always won." go bonny! but i'm leaving my "I haven't posted in a while, remember me" bit to the end of my post, in the hope that you havent clicked the dreaded del (boy?) as I so easily do.. so, I havent posted in a while, not since LAST YEAR! but i have to pop my head round the door and mumble for a while, to feel involved! oh, and poo to all the listees who get to go bowlie. i want to say a big "NER" from everyone who doesn't get to go. No fair! love, Erica x (Scarlet kisses) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Mon Mar 15 21:24:42 1999 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake E. Hamilton) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 16:24:42 -0500 Subject: Sinister: too much of anything is too much for me Message-ID: <001401be6f2a$3ed971e0$ee941198@wfu.edu> Dearest everyone-- Today, as spring is beginning to fall over North Carolina, I got some stuff in the mail--my Stow shirt being one of these glorious items. What a beautiful sky blue. I will wear it and flutter my eyelids. I played all the EPs for my mum, and here were some choice quotes straight from her mouth: before we started--"I really like that fox in the snow, how delightful" "what a nice song"--Beautiful "oh how nicely this song moves, love that banjo!"--The Gate "wow this one is long"--TIJAMRS "what are those instruments playing?"--B&S "wait i thought this song was done"--Put the Book "is this a james bond theme?"--String Bean Jean needless to say, she loves B&S. another convert, indeed. And Moon Patroller Carrie, I have more Who stuff to tell you, so what is your email address again? I switched computers now that I'm back at school, so I lost yours... that's it for now kiddies, ta ta blake ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ "Sometimes I feel I gotta get away. Bells chime, I know I gotta get away. And I know if I don't I'll go out of my mind. Better leave her behind, where the kids are alright." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steve at xxx.uk Mon Mar 15 22:59:16 1999 From: steve at xxx.uk (Steve Genge) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 22:59:16 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Looper Interview Message-ID: <000e01be6f37$75c239a0$8ee5989e@wphnvffu> Although we completely forgot to ask Stuart David that probing question "Why do you smell of wee?" (copyright Fluffy Sarah) we did manage, post their wonderful Borders show in Brighton, to sit them down in the noisy coffee shop & probe them deeply (ooh err missus) The results of which can be found by simply clicking on: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Cabaret/9043 thank you and goodnight steve x "Pain and beauty, our constant bedfellows." Sabine Strohem steve at seahorses.demon.co.uk Red Roses For Me Fanzine http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Cabaret/9043 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sleeka_sounds at xxx.com Tue Mar 16 11:30:39 1999 From: sleeka_sounds at xxx.com (Sleeka Sounds) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 03:30:39 PST Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19990316113039.6862.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello! Let's see.... As Mr. Kitchen said, the Amphetameanies are very good indeed, and well worth going to see on Friday if you live in the greater Glasgow area. The skanking new single "Last night" is out soonish or now, and it is just great! We went to see them at the Battle of the Bands in the QM on Saturday night, they didn't win they came second which amused me no end as they're not strictly a student band now, are they? If you come on Friday you can expect a lot of skinheads with green bomber jackets and 64 hole doc marten boots. Och, they're harmless, just boys having a bit of fun. I heard three songs of THE GENITAL WARTS album in John Smiths. It sounded just like I thought it would. At first I thought the Looper album was juts a load of sentimental tosh Then something came upon me and I got a lump in my throat. My favourite bits are the spacey noise in Dave the Moon Man and the start of burning flies when it goes "burning fli i i i i e e s". In that he says something about a beach on Balmaha, which is by Loch Lomond. One of the pictures of Isobel on the GENETIC WANKS website looks an awful lot like a beach on Balmaha, which is by Loch Lomond. Coincidence? I don't think so. It's funny how Stuart David comes across all shy and sweet on the album whereas in real life he's from Balloch in the Vale of Leven, which means he's autohard as nails. As we all know he's got a terrible temper (demonstrated in the pish/leaving incident). I think the next looper album will be more along the lines of the Prodigy, with song titles like "The Seven Year Bitch" and "Fuck off to the Moon, Spaceman". Mwah ha ha ha (really evil). fond regards, Chris =================================== Visit the Sleeka Sounds Corporation http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~calnd/sleeka/ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From richard.connell at xxx.com Tue Mar 16 10:30:06 1999 From: richard.connell at xxx.com (Richard Connell) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 10:30:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: sun In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9606301016031999/A03353/ADVAX1/11D3829E0200*@MHS> >is it an acknowledged fact that sun breeds creativity? >cos i reckon most b&s songs were written in sunny >weather, they sound warm to me. or on warm evenings. >amy >xxx Good in theory but you forget that they live in scotland, the place of rain and cloud. They saw the sun once and thought the sky was on fire. Only joking (or am i?) Yours uncontroversially (and uncensored?) Rich np: blur - 13, beth orton - central reservation +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paul at xxx.com Tue Mar 16 12:17:39 1999 From: paul at xxx.com (Paul Clarke) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 12:17:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Nick Drake References: <199903161135.EAA16278@turtle.esosoft.net> Message-ID: <36EE4BE3.3BE0A0AB@fortunecity.com> > Oh, and I recruited my first B&S fan! I am proud. But I must admit it > was very easy: she was a Nick Drake fan already. Being a fan of Nick > Drake and never hearing of B&S: what a terrible fate. This reminds me of my idea for a name for a B&S tribute band: Nicked Drake. Sorry if the subject of names of tribute bands has been done to death here, I've been away for a while (not posted since the Manchester Christmas shows). I like clever names of tribute bands me. If I was south american, and could play any instruments, and had some friends who used to be really angsty, but are now a bit bloated, and they could play instruments too, we'd call ourselves the Hispanic Street Preachers. Pauly http://www.popEx.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Tue Mar 16 12:15:41 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 12:15:41 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Queen II is better than Queen I, no contest Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22523A40@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Woo! Lesley Jo, give it to me one more time! The anagrams, cheesy or not, are disturbingly appropriate on occasion, especially "Bible lad seen Satan"...disturbing stuff...but what really inspired me to write is your less-than-impressednes at Robbie Williams. Why do broad-minded people with perception and intelligence readily admit to liking this irrelevant little man? Relief at being told by style spokespeople that it's okay to like bland, unthinking pap, perhaps, thereby not forsaking your hard-earned indie cred? Inoffensive is *not* a good thing - don't let him fool you. "Angels" was quite good, though :) Kerouac may have been a hero to millions, etc. - but, as Michele pointed out, why the apology, Ari? Don't let yourself feel intimidated into retracting your opinions because others put their own more forcefully... Andrew Tracey - I could do with a bit of luck at the bookies - any tips? Ideally something where the masses of sinister punters can influence the result in our favour (you can be pretty sure that we wouldn't have given a draw in Madison Square Gardens, unless we hadn't let the fight start in the first place in case someone got hurt)... That'll do, I think. Lovely to meet you too, Jennifer, and come back soon! Looking forward to the first picnic of the summer, Mark xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From asbuch at xxx.edu Tue Mar 16 12:56:13 1999 From: asbuch at xxx.edu (Heather Marie Propes) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 06:56:13 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: sun In-Reply-To: <9606301016031999/A03353/ADVAX1/11D3829E0200*@MHS> Message-ID: Oh come on, don't be such an extremist, Richard. They live in Scotland, yeah, but Scotland gets hot, too! Why were all those kids from Trainspotting running around in tiny little t-shirts? Eh? You can't fool us yanks! Next thing I know you're going to tell me heroin makes you sweat! Ciao, By the way, my bosses name is Richard Correll, so every time I see one of your postings, I think my boss is writing me to assign me work from the Sinister list. http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop Heather Marie Propes asbuch at midway.uchicago.edu On Tue, 16 Mar 1999, Richard Connell wrote: > >is it an acknowledged fact that sun breeds creativity? > >cos i reckon most b&s songs were written in sunny > >weather, they sound warm to me. or on warm evenings. > >amy > >xxx > > Good in theory but you forget that they live in scotland, the place of > rain and cloud. They saw the sun once and thought the sky was on fire. > > Only joking (or am i?) > > Yours uncontroversially (and uncensored?) > Rich > > np: blur - 13, beth orton - central reservation > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Tue Mar 16 13:26:58 1999 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:26:58 -0000 Subject: Sinister: sun In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001be6fb0$aadb0440$4e0129c2@sun.QSS> >Oh come on, don't be such an extremist, Richard. They live in Scotland, >yeah, but Scotland gets hot, too! Why were all those kids from >Trainspotting running around in tiny little t-shirts? Eh? You can't fool >us yanks! Next thing I know you're going to tell me heroin makes you >sweat! Well yes, but on these grounds, Mick from B+S once said something that made me think about the situation. It's dead rainy in Glasgow, much more so than here in Edinburgh, despite the two cities being pretty close, this is cause Glasgow gets the rainshadow effect from the islands. Mick figured that basically cause of it always raining, that people just stayed in their bedrooms and wrote songs. I doubt there's much truth in any of these things. It's defintely something in the water. It's not the people who write the songs anyway, it's the pixies, who come around at night and put great songs underneath peoples pillows. Only last night I found "London Nights" by the London Boys jammed under my pillow. Trust me to get a song that someone else had already written! Discovered last night that on Virgin radio around about midnight, it's "Ooooh" Gary Davies! Cheers, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From viscount at xxx.net Tue Mar 16 13:27:04 1999 From: viscount at xxx.net (Andrew Tracey) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:27:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: B+S at the races Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19990316132704.006908fc@clara.net> I see that Mark Casarotto is tapping me for racing tips. I don't profess to be any kind of expert but seeing as it's Cheltenham this week I thought I'd have a look through today's runners and see if any of the names have a Sinisterine slant. This is what I've found. 2.00 Prominent Profile - since victory at the Brits or Silence Reigns - their publicity agenda pre Brits 2.35 His Song - Stuart and his ditties 3.55 Shore Party - for those going to the Bowlie weekender Disclaimer - I don't know nuffink about racing so no responsibility is taken for any shirts lost. bye for now andrew tracey +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Tue Mar 16 13:51:57 1999 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (weejay) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:51:57 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: The Connections In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19990315161824.006e63d0@clara.net> Message-ID: <199903161345.NAA22894@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> Andrew Tracey wrote: > So much music is all 'look at me, look at me, aren't I fab'. I think this > is what connects fans of B+S, Tindersticks and also Pulp, as Jan said. This is what I've been thinking about. It didn't strike me at the time but Pulp, B&S and now Ooberman seem to be my big obsessions and what's the link? Sensitive Working Class Intelectulals or SWCI for short. it all makes sense now. Incidentally, is anyone else on here into ooberman? They had a peel session last week and they played a new song called 'Sur La Place' and, well, it was like hearing 'The State I Am In' or 'Babies' for the first time. Wow! And Danny Ooberman's a real sweetie too. I think he does the website - the best band one I've seen at http://www.ooberman.com james xxxx "Weej! Shut Up!" - everybody, all the time. Blue Glow is at; http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/blueglow.html And you can visit me at http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/wjpages.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Tue Mar 16 16:52:01 1999 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Johnston) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 16:52:01 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Queen II is better than Queen I, no contest Message-ID: Friends Mark Inter-Toto informed us "but what really inspired me to write is your less-than-impressednes at Robbie Williams. Why do broad-minded people with perception and intelligence readily admit to liking this irrelevant little man? " The thing about Williams is sure, he is an irrelevant little man and even I'm getting starting to get tired of his media ubiquity and cheeky-chappie-forces-sweetheart persona, but he is pure, unapologetic, route one entertainment. He's relentlessly showbiz and that's how I like my pop stars. I once saw him do a brief turn at The Regency Rooms in London. This is a kitsch cabaret show both ironic and cheesy at the same time. On the bill that night were none other than veteran hoofer Lionel Blair and dimunitive seventies sensation Leo Sayer while Robbie sat at a table at the front with his entourage. The host (who knows him quite well) called him on stage for an "impromptu" turn. He did Angels and then after the host and his band had started doing Let me Entertain You he was summoned back. He rocked that room like a master - which he is. The kids were mad for him. It was pointless, mindless fun. It said nothing to me about my life and thank God for that. As an aspiring performer myself I was almost in awe of his performance. He may not be the most appealing character but he's a fabulous performer and I take my hat of to him. I'm currently reading Giles Smith's Lost in Music - it's fantastic. I'm also looking forward to the Picnic season :) John xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Tue Mar 16 18:24:35 1999 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick * Sandcastle Records) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:24:35 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Seasons and Silver Halide Coated with a Thin Layer of Emulsion Message-ID: <36EEA1E3.EEA3CFE5@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Hello Sininstines, Hm, I've just had a look at Ronnie Black's photo page and there are some really lovely photos of various members of B&S. I think he's got everyone in there somewhere except Stevie. There's a nice silhouette of Stuart David playing piano, and a gorgeous picture of Isobel in the dark with just enough sidelighting to make her profile. Er, the picture is gorgeous, I mean, of course. Anyway, they're quite neat, just thought I'd let someone else know besides Megan. I was so pleased with myself when I could look and say "Aha, he burned there!" or "He dodged there!" As far as all of B&S' songs sounding like Summer....no. That's totally wrong. Sorry. A lot of them, maybe, but I can't see how anyone could think "Fox in the Snow" would sound summery. For me I associate summer with sweat, heat, and sloth. Sweating because it's so hot and muggy, sloth because you don't want to get up and go about because it's hot and muggy and you'd get all sweaty. Summer is made 10-20 times worse when you don't have air-conditioning. I think summer is my least favorite season of the year. Having said that, there are definately some B&S songs that undeniably exude summer, especially from TWATTYBUS. For me, Sinister always had a quality of Autumn or Winter, probably owing in part to the fact that I first had the album in those two seasons. I just think that B&S, like most bands, have different feels to their songs for differet seasons. However sometimes this is determined by when you first heard it. I suppose if you bought all three albums and all the EPs over the summer, they'd always remind you of summer, even when they were singing about snow. All speculative of course. And for the record, I can't remember the last time someone used Autumn or Fall in an adjective sense. So I don't think anyone says Fall-ish. We use Autumn, too, BTW. /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick/Sandcastle Records <<->> bp224996 at ohiou.edu \ / Sandcastle Records Homepage: ICQ#5056758 | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | -Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brennan at xxx.uk Tue Mar 16 18:33:50 1999 From: brennan at xxx.uk (Brennan) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 18:33:50 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Ooberman Message-ID: <001d01be6fdb$9da66000$4641883e@rcspo> Yes! Ooberman are great aren't they. Ive got their Shorley Wall EP = (Seratonin Smile is very good on it). Try going into you're local Virgin = Megastore and asking for Ooberman and watch the assistant's face drop. = It took them half and hour to work out what I was saying. I do seem to = prefer bands like Belle, the Tindersticks, Ooberman, Ben Harper etc but = then I break the mould with the Jon Spencer Blues Explosion.=20 The SWCI idea is good, but posibly too general in assuming that = everybody comes from the same background. I think it's more in the type = of music they play, not the kind you have to try hard to get into (but = not MOR) and the kind with a good story in it (She's selling seashells = on the Shorley Wall). I'm afraid Pulp (or plop as I like to call them) = are not on my list. Jarvis Cocker (illegitimate son of Joe Cocker) gets = on my tits, but some of the sogs are good. REM do come into the equation = though, not exactly the working class type but definitely the well = stuctured story orientated music. Maybe that's it then, just very well = structured music. Who knows what accounts for taste? Some people like = Billie after all. News Flash...Pete Waterman is accusing Billboard of being fixed after = Steps didn't get to number one. It was in his business plan and = everything, and now he's going to have to go home and rewrite it all. Aw = poo, he said at a recent press conference. Later, Oliver A levels are so depressing. I want to go out and play in the sun, but = there's too much work to do... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eliam at xxx.edu Tue Mar 16 22:25:01 1999 From: eliam at xxx.edu (Marie Elia) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 99 17:25:01 -0500 Subject: Sinister: give yrself up to the allure... Message-ID: <199903162216.RAA15670@pellns.alleg.edu> good afternoon/evening, sinisterites... perhaps it was divine inspiration (or sinister designs upon my all-too-easily-distracted mind), but i was hit yesterday with the overwhelming desire to re-read "catcher in the rye." kimmy helped me out by lending me her beloved copy (kisskiss, KIsMet!), and, rather than tackle my chemistry homework or review for my english midterm, i spent yesterday curled up on a chair in our sunroom, under a blanket, cat in my lap, tea at my side... delving into the strange and beautiful world of one holden caufield... i made a bookmark out of black paper and silver pen -- i wrote "give yourself up to the allure of catcher in the rye"... and that is exactly what i did.... oh! i am so anxious for this week of exams to be over -- for on saturday i board a plane for london... perhaps i'll never return. i'll fall in love with the city and stay there forever.... on a more practical note, i have tix for this looper gig, which is apparently at the improv theatre on 24 march -- next wednesday. i have not heard any mention of it here -- is anyone else going?? take care, marie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jimgrund at xxx.fr Tue Mar 16 23:16:26 1999 From: jimgrund at xxx.fr (Jan Imgrund) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 00:16:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re: Isobel book list/Robert Walser In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <199903162317.AAA05034@front5.grolier.fr> Hi list. Robert Walser was one of the tw**est authors of all time, and consequently one of the best, of course. He has not only written little stories, but also large ones. His book "Geschwister Tanner" (the Tanner brothers) about a young tramp (a film version should be made starring Stuart) is very great. Check it out, man. And Isobel knows such wonderful writers! She's cool. bye Jan The Dark Site of the Moon: http://perso.club-internet.fr/jimgrund/index.html "Illusion is the first of all pleasures" - Oscar Wilde +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From PaperSun23 at xxx.com Tue Mar 16 23:33:38 1999 From: PaperSun23 at xxx.com (PaperSun23 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 18:33:38 EST Subject: Sinister: hugs! Message-ID: hello all, I just wanted to send every single sinisterite a big hug for being as special as you all are! It's always refreshing to read all the posts that brighten my day. I finally cleaned my room, a chore which has been calling to me for a while now. I should be doing work but had to send out some hugs. I will now dutifully return to coding my web page. Moon Patroller Carrie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Snowinsumr at xxx.com Wed Mar 17 01:39:10 1999 From: Snowinsumr at xxx.com (Snowinsumr at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 20:39:10 EST Subject: Sinister: "...memory is not life and it's not love..." Message-ID: <65d0a520.36ef07be@aol.com> dear "sluggish and somber" diary... i've been contemplating life today...seemed the thing to do...with the sun blazing in the sky and being trapped in the library and all...not trapped, no...as i love my quiet, unobtrusive daily jobs there...strange the way people cling to things the way they do...as i myself do...that's why the phrase "memory is not life and it's not love" came into play...i realized that i love things more in retrospect making them appear better and more pleasant than what they were...i suppose we all do...it's frightening to know that, though...to know that i could trap myself in a hopeless dream of romanticized illusion...maybe it wouldn't be such a terrible thing...as reality can really be a bore at times...not my reality right now, though...i like where i am...but maybe later a dream or two would be nice to fall back into...i haven't written to "sinister" in awhile...something seems different...it disturbs me...it's not the lovely people, of course...something within us is changing...i feel strange...listening to the field mice...i think i should go out for awhile... love, m. elise +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.EDU Wed Mar 17 02:07:43 1999 From: ynoh at xxx.EDU (Youn Jong Noh) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 18:07:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: "...memory is not life and it's not love..." In-Reply-To: <65d0a520.36ef07be@aol.com> Message-ID: > "memory is not life and it's not love" came into play...i realized that i love > things more in retrospect making them appear better and more pleasant than > what they were...i suppose we all do...it's frightening to know that, for me, i don't think that things appear better in retrospect but that when things do happen in my life, which is so rare, i'm usually so stunned that i'm afraid i'm losing things that i won't be able to retrieve. i wonder how stuart murdoch loves. a while back there were some biblical comparisons which reminded me of a line of thought which i had been persuing earlier, namely, how various band members should be identified with characters in this novel called lord of the flies that i had to read in school long ago and i couldn't make up my mind whether stuart ought to be identified with simon or with ralph. it's touching that one of stuart's favorite writers appears to be c.s. lewis on account of the fact that he's not at all fashionable in the way writers like kafka are (though the attention these writers receive is not at all undeserved) and it makes that odd spiritual almost ascetic side of stuart make sense. of course, it's really silly that i'm making all these conjectures about a person whom i know only through their songs, the one or two lines that he spoke on the chat session on the jeepster site, and the photos...i always thought it was slightly odd that in the photos from the web site of the fan in washington dc that in the picture in which they appear together, that they should appear so separate. he doesn't appear unfriendly, but i don't think he's someone who would casually put his arm around you. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mew817 at xxx.com Wed Mar 17 02:27:18 1999 From: Mew817 at xxx.com (Mew817 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 21:27:18 EST Subject: Sinister: London and Sebastian's Closet Message-ID: <23d95c51.36ef1306@aol.com> Marie wrote: > saturday i board a plane for london... perhaps i'll never return. > i'll fall in love with the city and stay there forever.... Ah, I fell totally in love with London and miss it more than I could have imagined. 6 months was not long enough...I would move there in an instant if the British government would permit me, although they are tough on Americans as we are with British (and most Europeans...it makes no sense). I wish I had known about Sinister while I was living there because I could have met so many of you! Unfortunately I did not know of Sinister until last fall and will have to come visit you all some other time...a great reason to go back! I've been meaning to tell you all that on my traffic-filled drive to work, there is always a bit of Belle and Sebastian waiting for me along the way....I pass this shop every morning called "Sebastian's Closet" which sells, "Fine European clothing for men" It's pretty funny because I just like to think that it is filled with cardigans and silver trousers instead of the expensive suits which I'm sure it contains. I've enjoyed reading all of your posts lately! Thank you. ;) Take care mew x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Wed Mar 17 02:21:36 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 21:21:36 EST Subject: Sinister: "...memory is not life and it's not love..." Message-ID: In a message dated 3/16/99 9:09:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, ynoh at leland.Stanford.EDU writes: << it's touching that one of stuart's favorite writers appears to be c.s. lewis on account of the fact that he's not at all fashionable in the way writers like kafka are (though the attention these writers receive is not at all undeserved) >> CS Lewis is one of my favorite writers ever.. I think that his stories written before his conversion are some of the most disturbing ever. they frightened me a good deal. Read "The Black Tower" for a good example. In retrospect, the Magicians Nephew was my favorite Chronicle of Narnia. ok. dave* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From araymond at xxx.edu Wed Mar 17 03:03:45 1999 From: araymond at xxx.edu (Raymond, Andrew George) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 22:03:45 -0500 Subject: Sinister: get me away from here i'm dying Message-ID: <36EF1B91.2AFAF925@roanoke.edu> Dear "Sinister" People: Hello. This is my first posting but I've been on the list for quite a while reading what y'all have to say about that most wonderful of all bands, Belle and Sebastian. I must say that tonight is a rather rough one me and I thought I would do something new and exciting. I should be writing an analytical comparison of Cicero's and Sallust's description of the Cataline Conspiracy. Anyway, I can't bullshit this paper because the professor actually cares about the subject material and won't give me a grade just for turning it in. I'd just like to say that the only thing that is keeping me sane at the moment is my collection of Belle & Sebastian CDs and the new Looper album. I'm not much of a writer so I feel kinda awkward writing to the list, since y'all seem to have mastered English prose quite well. O.K., I'm sorry to bother y'all and I'll go now. I probably won't write back but just know that I'll always be reading your comments. They provide a welcome distraction from the rigors of daily life. Thanks, Strobey P.S. Please excuse the the insertion of "y'all." I'm from Virginia. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hopkinstim at xxx.com Wed Mar 17 09:01:01 1999 From: hopkinstim at xxx.com (Tim Hopkins) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 01:01:01 PST Subject: Sinister: Queen I all the way, pal Message-ID: <19990317090102.8872.qmail@hotmail.com> Keefyboy wrote: >I doubt there's much truth in any of these things. It's defintely something in the water. Something to do with acid rain, as someone once said? >It's not the people who write the songs anyway, it's the pixies, who >come around at night and put great songs underneath peoplespillows. This will explain why the Pixies never, ever had any good songs of their own. They gave them away. Awwww, I'm really warming to the filthy stinking rock pigs now. Making sure everyone else was happy by using up all the *really* bad ones themselves. PeeJay wrote :>Keith, what was the highest-selling spoken word record of all time? I believe it was 'Jammy Smears' by Ivor Cutler, a man with more than a touch of the Stuart Murdochs about him. It sold more than two copies, I think. Of course, the best seller might be something by the Pope. I like the Pope's records, but only the early stuff before he sold out and went rubbish. And before he started playing in Shane MacGowan's backing band. The LP of the Investiture of the Prince of Wales (1969) came out on well-respected reggae label Pama Records. This is the truth. I guess that must be around the time they released skinhead reggae classic 'Wet Dream' by Max Romeo, a cheery little song about a leaky roof. I bet the Amphetameanies like it a lot. Can I suggest that we make two lines, Jack Kerouac fans and Jack Kerouac haters? Then we can all go out to the playground and have a big scrap, until the dinner lady tells us to stop. That would be fun, and a great way to spend playtime. I'm not telling you which side I'm on, except to say that I've never thought that an artist's personal opinions or habits were the most reliable guide to assessing the quality of their art. Neither, come to think of it, have I ever thought that Jack Kerouac books were good for anything but bogroll. Come to think of it, I'll probably be inside at chess club with the softies. I could write more but I'd only end up starting a fight. How come no-one talks about Glo-worm on this list? Me, Tim Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tunnock at xxx.au Wed Mar 17 09:58:43 1999 From: tunnock at xxx.au (chris) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 19:58:43 +1000 Subject: Sinister: Luna Message-ID: <36EF7CD3.33A4@alphalink.com.au> I know the subject has passed, however reading of bands that do not indulge in self promotion I thought it appropiate I offer a little word of mouth information on Luna and their latest album release... Titled "The Days Of Our Nights" it is due out on May 25, and it was originally titled "The Young And The Restless"!!! For those not familiar with their official website, courtesy of bassist Justin Harwood, it is www.fuzzywuzzy.com Can anyone explain the expression on Shaun Edin's face as he plays??? May looms as an infinitely pleasing month for cd purchases. Bye Chris +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Tjonrr at xxx.com Wed Mar 17 11:35:54 1999 From: Tjonrr at xxx.com (Tjonrr at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 06:35:54 EST Subject: Sinister: either im dreaming or its raining Message-ID: <7870cc82.36ef939a@aol.com> so if youre worried about the looper lp just remember that quote from mick jones i think, about sandinista, i cant remember exactly but something like "the thing about this album is you can dance all the way through, you just have to dance a certain way". thats what i thought of when i first heard it anyway. can i just say while youre talking about ooberman again that my copy of sugarbumsugarbumsugarverynicebum is WARPED. its all bent at one side and when i play it it goes fssssst...fssssst...which looks very nice in print but not so nice to listen to. i dont care, i only bought it for the lovely transcopic brown cardboard sleeve anyway. in fact i think the whole thing is like that on purpose, like as a metaphor for EVIL boys who look nice and shy like theyd help your granny with her shopping but are in fact SEXUAL DEVIANTS. like yer man murdoch frinstance. as my brother said about some other ginger person "nice enough guy, but you wouldnt want him to marry your daughter". from the mouths of gobshites etc. well the only thing thats getting me up in the mornings is the two new hefner singles, the sticky one and the spanish one, which i found in accaemmyvoo of all places. five tracks. £7.49. car insurance? daylight robbery. and i missed the gospel session cause i was at billy bragg. £12. see above. and while we enjoyed his humourous observations on gloaming and feudalism, if hed shut up for a minute between songs we wouldnt have missed the last bus. if this email was the magnificent seven, this would be where joe strummer says "fackin long innit" the only other thing ive really been listening to (apart from sandinista of course. underrated classic that.exept for the last few tracks when it all goes a bit wibble) is old arab strap sessions. the night i saw you, off the first peel session, never been released, probably never will now (theyve moved on see) pure genius, and it contains the lyrics "but this guy stuart had gave us tickets to see his band belle and sebastian", also later on "and i think the girl im looking for is friends with the girl who plays the cello".and because of the way its been recorded you get john peel at the end saying "feedback maddened kids" and then after first big peel thing "real drums, listeners" does anyone know the gordon legge short story about john peel and hillsborough? its a bit special. someone my brother knows says they once met joe strummer and he was really thick. but then he says it was in the hammersmith palais so hes probably talking shite, cause that would be a bit too tidy. from tjohn "after all this time to believe in jesus after all those drugs i thought i was him after all my lying, and crying, and my suffering i aint good enough, i aint clean enough, to be him" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From viscount at xxx.net Wed Mar 17 04:14:27 1999 From: viscount at xxx.net (Andrew Tracey) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 04:14:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Put the book back on the shelf Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19990317041427.0068f1a0@clara.net> There's been a lot of discussion regarding books and literature in general recently and I'm feeling a bit left out. I know B+S are regarded as a band favoured by the 'literati' (English lit students, budding poets etc) and I am drawn to a band who take care to ensure that their lyrics mean *something*. The problem is I can't read books. Lord knows I've tried. I've bought half a dozen books in the past six months but I can't seem to finish any of them. I've had the Nick Drake biography since September and I'm only on page 86. This is despite being really interested in Nick and enjoying what I've read so far. I can't seem to read more than a few pages at a time before my mind begins to wander and I lose interest. I studied physics at university so I never had to read any cohesive prose, just equations and suchlike. I can whizz through an encyclopedia for hours at a time but I can't finish a novel. Have any sinisterines who have a scientific leaning had any experience of what I'm talking about? Has anyone else forgotten how to read?? The Gentle Waves' video was on Alternative Nation on MTV tonight. I did notice the subtle hand of a marketing strategy at work. Isobel gets an *awful* lot of screen time in the video. Could this be anything to do with the fact she looks rather fetching in her alice band and kipper tie? Could the Gentle Waves be the new Cardigans, an oasis of blonde loveliness amidst a desert of plain looking fellows? I do miss the two hour Alternative Nation. I used to love it when, out of nowhere, a Captain Beefheart video would materialise. Strobey, do not apologise for your y'alls. If it wasn't for regional differences, we'd all be the same. Now, where did I put my jellied eels.... My sinister horses all failed miserably at Cheltenham yesterday so I'm having another go today. 2.35 Papillon - not quite a mayfly but close enough 3.15 Allegation - that the Brits were rigged?? No way Mr Waterman or Archive Footage - all B+S videos appear to have been made in 1957 4.30 Lothian Commander - Being a Londoner (and therefore totally ignorant of anything north of Watford) I'm hoping this refers to B+S country. 5.05 Northern Starlight - 'I dreamt I had to go to Mars....' I'd also like to give public thanks to Craig-Lee (who's still in the nursery) for the Smog info - much appreciated. Bloody hell - 4am. I'd better go to bed. bye for now andrew tracey +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Wed Mar 17 11:47:59 1999 From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (Michael Jones) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 03:47:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Why Oh Why Oh Why Message-ID: <19990317114759.152.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> Hup hup hup, Well, slap me twice with a chamois leather, Spring has sprung down here in the South-East and it's going to take a legion of sturdy-legged representatives of the local Townswomen's Guild to shove the bastard back in its box. Or else the damp cold front that's forecast for later in the week. Ho-hum. I had a veritable grain-silo of ersatz Genocidal Waves info with which to confound you all with (code name: Easy Target), but I see Peter and Chris stole all my best ideas before I had a chance to think of them. So that's buggered that thread. A quick trip to the archives reveals some fiendish font tomfoolery has taken place. Whether it's my browser, the archive software or a deliberate act by Honey (all scagged out on Toblerone and Sunny Delight, no doubt) - the text of each Sinister message now resembles nothing so much as a letter written on one of them fancy early-80s electric typewriters. All scripty and Barry Took-era "Points Of View". Keith Watson's last Rock Epistle resembles a missive from Appalled of Tewkesbury, voicing their concern at the rising tide of filth filling our screens before the watershed. Scanned the Looper live review in the NME this morning at King's X; the gist of it seemed to be "quite nice, but members of B&S, like their fans, should learn to escape their cosy world and expand their horizons a little" (I'm paraphrasing here). And this from the NME. Gordon Bennett. Little do they realise that uberfan Andy Dean was probably busy emptying the Rough Trade shop of brutalist technoid bleepscape nonsense as Looper played their set. Cardigans of steel, pal. Mike. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Wed Mar 17 12:20:44 1999 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 12:20:44 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: ease your feet in the sinister list Message-ID: yep, i'm back. you all seem to be full of the joys of spring, as indeed i would be were it not for the fact that i am stuck in a computer room writing a dissertation. hello to everyone, new and old. as you can see, you don't get rid of me that easily. like a good listerine i'll say 3 hail B&S's first (or 1 anyway.) i too made a convert of someone who liked nick drake but had never heard of B&S. when asked if he liked the tape i made for him he said that he liked the first side and he was sure the second side was very nice too, but he'd fallen asleep with the sound of it in his headphones. which is a tribute in itself. robbie williams: i have almost come to blows over this man, in the company of people who usually agree on everything, so i am wary of contributing anything at all to the argument. au revoir for now. it's good (if time consuming) to be back. archel xxx PS: I HAVE A 7-DAY EXAM ACROSS THE BOWLIE WEEKEND AND AM NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT AT ALL !!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ***** do something pretty while you can don't be afraid skating a pirouette on ice is cool - belle and sebastian -------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tunnock at xxx.au Wed Mar 17 10:25:12 1999 From: tunnock at xxx.au (chris) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 20:25:12 +1000 Subject: Sinister: Richard Colburn and Sodastream Message-ID: <36EF8308.3546@alphalink.com.au> Australian band Sodastream is touring the UK and I my sources tell me (I have always wanted to use that phrase) Richard Colburn will be drumming for them... However stating this, you cannot quote me because my source is notoriously unreliable and I may well look like (what we Australians call) a wanker!!! If you get an opportunity to see them it will be well worth it! I am hoping to get a slot on the student radio at Monash Uni, and if I get my show it will be titled "S & M and bible studies" - I love that line! Bye Chris +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordi-tv at xxx.com Wed Mar 17 09:48:36 1999 From: jordi-tv at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano i Vilar) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:48:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: looking for the interview Message-ID: <19990317124836.HM.00000000000FaX1@mixmail.com> Hello, people: I�m looking for the owner of the zine on which Isobel gave an in terview some months ago. I�d like to translate it to spanish and put it in my zine. Yes, the one in which Isobel says she�s got a big bottom. Adeu. ========================== ======================== Jordiet ================================================== Tu E-Mail Gratis en http://www.olemail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed Mar 17 12:11:45 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 12:11:45 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Today's tip - Direct Route in the 2.35 Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22523A53@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Andrew Tracey wrote: "see that Mark Casarotto is tapping me for racing tips. I don't profess to be any kind of expert but seeing as it's Cheltenham this week I thought I'd have a look through today's runners and see if any of the names have a Sinisterine slant. Disclaimer - I don't know nuffink about racing so no responsibility is taken for any shirts lost." Well, I've now checked the results, and assuming we'd all put a ten pound stake on each horse below (to win, natch), the Sinister list would have lost over thirty-eight thousand pounds! Phew! Still, we could probably have invoiced the boy Murdoch, he's a soft lad. Prominent profile - not placed Silence Reigns - not placed His Song - 4th, but he was the bloody favourite :( Shore party - refused, the old nag. What is even more disappointing is that Andrew neglected to select a runner from the 4.30, which was won by Celtic Giant at 20-1 - the list would have been up over 150,000 quid. Shame :( Robbie Williams - I don't know why I was so down on him yesterday, but he does get right up my arse. I don't know if being a pure route one entertainer is a valid reason for liking anyone (back to Steps again, I suppose). Your story of his encounter with Lionel Blair et al is pretty impressive - it does change things a bit, but it's not like everyone gets to hear about things like this, and it certainly doesn't make him any more entertaining the rest of the time. And his music is mediocre at best, which is a far more heinous crime :) I reckon I'm just jealous, really. When I think of summery B&S songs I get them clumsily muddled with what was playing on my first few encounters with both their music and the sinister phenomenon itself. The memory of Stuart gardiner singing Modern Rock Song outside the Spreadeagle as the first London picnic moved out of the sunlight links it inextricably with the nervous excitement and blissful weather of that afternoon, though I'd say it's probably an autumn song, if anything. Apart from the obvious titles like Fox in the Snow and A Summer Wasting, I reckon people's memories are going to be almost entirely selective in relation to what the song means for them. So, another waste of your time. Back to sleep for me, Mark xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Wed Mar 17 13:20:12 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 13:20:12 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Bobby and Thelma doing fine Message-ID: All my distant lovers, What's happened? After levelling out for a bit we're suddenly beginning to leap with new listees again, which makes my simple heart glad. A cheery, slightly blushing hello then to everyone new in Sinisterland. And pats on the back at the patience of new people who wait in silence until they can post, rather than yelling at me. I'm very pleased people do stick around, being a little apologetic if determined about the whole nursery thing, and I hope you all feel welcome here, even if you don't know who "Tim Hopkins", "Duke" or "Stuart Murdoch" are. Yet. I can assure you that in a few months time, you, like me, will have your nighttime dreams invaded by such shadowy figures, and some of those dreams might be rude too. Mine haven't been so far, but it's only a matter of time. Anyway, to anyone new, this place sometimes feels a little... forbidding when you first stop by. I just want to assure you it isn't, it's just got a History, which is a different thing entirely, and we're all very friendly here, honestly. Sinister Likes New People. Of course it's not *just* those who forget their history that are condemned to repeat it, as demonstrated by the appearance of anagrams, which you could set your watch by. I'm allowed to say this without sounding cheeky, because I sent some B&S anagrams to the list about 18 months ago. Bleed Satan Lesbian indeed. Hey! What's this! A "ListSearch" box at the top of the front page of the Sinister WWW site? "How handy!" I hear you all cry. Hmm. This week in my Handy Hints section I'll also tell you all of a new command you can use to manipulate the list for your own evil desires: - The "nomail" command - This is useful if you're going away but don't want to resign your membership - just send the command: set sinister nomail (or sinister-digest) to "majordomo at majordomo.net" and lo and behold, everything will go quiet till you send a "set mail". Useful for long weekends away. But please remember: don't be afraid to leave the list if you're going to come back later and want to avoid the nursery: if you've BEEN a member you will skip straight back in again when you return, even if you un- and re-subscribe. Next week: the delights of "set digest". Some of you might have found the WWW site or even mail a little slow recently: the reason appeared yesterday. Apparently a major line between the UK and US was severed by.. a fishing trawler somewhere between the Faroe Islands and Iceland. Seriously. Faroe Islanders on the list take note. I think this is a fabulous excuse, better even than "the dog ate my homework, miss". Sir Michael of Steadiness decreed: > A quick trip to the archives reveals some fiendish font tomfoolery > has taken place. Whether it's my browser, the archive software or > a deliberate act by Honey... Erm.. ok I've been using all you archive readers as subjects in mad scientist experiments with HTML, and I make no apologies (until someone belts me) because I like it. And I'm not very good at HTML and am "honing" my "skills". So yes, if you've seen fonts on the Sinister pages go all loopy recently, it's down to me. As Mike pointed out, I've tried to make the pages for messages to the list look like your Aunt Fanny writing to you from Sinister Towers: well that's if you have a font called "Lucida Handwriting" installed on your computer (if not I'm sure you can get it from www.microsoft.com etc., or your local pet shop). Also something called "Comic MS Sans" might make the whole WWW site look a little... more digestible. If however I've made a right mess up of your viewing pleasure, then do let me know. No-one who knows me trusts me with a screwdriver. I should also record my joyful thanks and big eyed wonder to "Pam n Mike" Pam Berry for a fabulous birthday present sinister photo-album made from a spookily appropriate old childrens book. Anyone who sends presents like this is bound to make nice music: how come no-one talks about Glo-Worm on this list? I'm going to fill my new album with photos from the "private" Sinister Nudie Photos Page, URL only known to those who have sent me nudie photos. Get your entries in now. Oh and - don'ch'all think (it's catching) that we could do with some more pinups? A gentle reminder the anyone (which means you, dear reader) that sending a photo of you now, you when you were 2 foot tall, or your maths homework last night in JPG format will secure you a place on the Sinister site in the "How We Are Now", "How We Were Then" or "Things We Made At School Today, Mummy" pages. Just send them along to me and don't be so shy. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/index.shtml#photos How come no-one talks about "Appendix Out" on this list? I just heard a couple of tracks by the fabulously named scottish band on a cheapo Creeping Bent compilation and they're fantastic: like Chris Leonard in bed with Will Oldham. That's not an accusation, merely an observation, but I'll be selling pictures privately from home. Finally, Viscount Andy Tracey noted that he seems to have lost the ability to read anything other than pamphlets after studying Physics - yes exactly the same thing happened to me. The delightful Damon sent me a fabulous book about 6 months ago and I'm still on page about 40, even though it's a corker of a read. I took 9 months to read my prize from what was maybe the first Sinister competition, a book from Mr Trousers. Isn't it a bit off that the person who runs the list won the prize? But that was in 1997 when the world was young. dr honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Wed Mar 17 14:10:36 1999 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 14:10:36 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: I know where the summer dwells... Message-ID: Hey kids! We had a power cut the other night for three hours. It was ace! We had to do everything by candlelight and I had to phone my mum to ask her what they used to do in the days before television. There's a funny old man who lives across the road from us and who spends his whole day standing outside his house in his vest. We met him outside during the powercut and he looked at us solemnly and said "She's dying tonight". Woooo! Spooky or what? It was sort of disappointing when the power came back on. Sorry, I must be more relevant. Andrew Tracey said: >The problem is I can't read books. Lord knows I've tried. >I've bought half a dozen books in the past six months but I can't >seem to finish any of them. Maybe you're just reading the wrong books for you. I'm a physics student too and for some reason I got it into my head a few years ago that I ought to be reading science fiction. So I tried, and I failed, and I realised that I just didn't enjoy that sort of book. So look around for your sort of book. If that fails what you should do is get a book and rip out say, nine pages in ten. That way a two-hundred page book will be reduced to twenty pages. Hooray! You've read it in half an hour! I have nothing to say on the subject of Robbie Williams except that an anagram of "Robbie Williams ttfac" is "Twat Face lrimsborbli", which is kind of uncanny, I think. Robin xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lee at xxx.uk Wed Mar 17 15:12:45 1999 From: lee at xxx.uk (Lee) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 15:12:45 -0000 Subject: Sinister: summer sounds Message-ID: <001401be7089$4c2e8460$947738d4@bentley> Hello list 'Happy Summer Everyone' I heard Stuart David and his good lady wife on the radio last night, they were on about their website, apparently the treehouse came about because Stuart couldn't afford to build the real thing, I think the interviewer took it literally and he said something like "but you cant fit many people in a tree house, it'll just fall down?" I think Stuart meant a place (as in building) where he could set up a cinema, gallery, studio and all the other stuff. But maybe he did actually want to build a huge treehouse as he later said in the interview he was trying to take over the world with his web site by corrupting all the workers who access the web sequencer during their dinner breaks. I haven't heard Looper yet, I don't think I'd like them that much, but if I had a few hundred thousand to spare I'd give it to Stuart to build his treehouse for real. Belle and Sebastian are my favourite band in summer, I think this week has been the first time I've heard TBWTAS (the green one) when it's been nice out. Some songs sound alot better, especially Seymour Stein. However most things are better when the sun is shinning, except working in an office. I didn't know Kerouac was a Nazi spy, I'll never read any of his evil propaganda again :) lee +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cchaffin at xxx.org Wed Mar 17 15:36:25 1999 From: cchaffin at xxx.org (Christa Chaffinch) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:36:25 -0500 Subject: Sinister: looper review and a sugary powder-based beverage Message-ID: There is a review of the Looper album on the Onion's AV page at: http://avclub.theonion.com/music.html They have some good things to say, but they seem to like B&S more. I've been feeling rather unfulfilled lately. Sometimes things happen and they make you realize that your life isn't exactly what you thought it was. It's rather disconcerting. It's disconcerting that I just used the word 'disconcerting'. I got my plane tickets for the UK this past weekend... Camber Sands, here I come! I need the vacation. Create distance. Save myself. :) Camber Sands is a nice thing to fantasize about while trying to avoid performing menial tasks at work. Work has been very "hey koolaid" lately.** -christa ** HIOQI, 1999 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ooon at xxx.th Thu Mar 18 14:19:18 1999 From: ooon at xxx.th (oon) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 21:19:18 +0700 Subject: Sinister: the more you shake it, the more you make it Message-ID: <36F10B65.78EFAC26@samart.co.th> two weeks ago i have my first niece, an ugly ugly baby who i love so dearly. (she's not really ugly though, i just can't say baby is cute or something might hear and take her away) i also showed visitors around, went to see elephant show and took photo with two huge and cute tigers, me waving his tail happily. tiger is very soft. i was very impressed. if anyone of you come to my country i'll take you to have photo with them too. too bad i didn't know about it when Linda was here. Linda come back and i'll take you there! well, i was going to write and tell you what i've done busily these last few weeks. but i feel too tired just thinking about it. so i'll just say i'm not going to the camp any more. because i'm afraid the entrance exam will involve mathematics and my spiritual leader Mr.Miller not going. as well as family commitment. for the very lucky person who will be staying with the honourable Mr.David Moore and his lovely daughter, i want you to know that one of the 2 tickets was nearly mine. i hope you have extra fun. sob. the amphetameanies site is good fun. i know no ska, so i don't know what a ska band is like. but this band look stranger than normal people. even Mick is stranger than i thought. i mean look at his innocent boyscout face and who would have thought--- (from the Amphetaminies page) Mick (Flumpet) Exhibitionist Mr Cooke is no stranger to public performance, having earned a crust as a dirty-old-man strippogram in front of a 30,000 strong audience at Glasgow's George Square last Hogmanay. He has also taken part in a harrowing re-examination of modern Christmas traditions, in which he played a fir tree being pursued by a mad axeman. Hogmanay is new year celebration, yes? but why do you have stripping at new year?? must be cold. it's easy for scottish men to be exhibitionist i think. just wear your kilt and let the wind takes over. i was watching the Brit Awards, very exciting to see them on telly here. too bad everyone couldn't be up there, and Richard said so little, and Mick didn't exhibit anything. or Mr.Waterman wouldn't have been protesting against them this strongly. after Stuart D has been revealed to be autohard Balloch man, i wonder who will be the next "not what he/she seems to be". could it be Isobel? i remember she used to stay in my country for a while. afterall, Thailand is a popular destination for lovely beaches, lovely foods and sex-change operation. last sunday i saw "Forever Fever" a disco film from singapore. very lovely and funny! make me dream with disco soundtracks. sweet dreams are made of these, absolutely. as if the above is not long enough, i'm proud to present you deep thought for today. taken from an article in Bangkok Post one day, these are responses to a first grade teacher’s class quiz in which she gave the first half of well-known proverbs— Strike while the … Bug is close. Better to be safe than… Punch a 5th grader. It’s always darkest before… Daylight Savings Time. Never underestimate the power of… Termites. You can lead a horse to water but…How? Don’t bite the hand that… Looks dirty. No news is… Impossible. A miss is as good as a… Mr. You can’t teach an old dog new… Maths. If you lie down with dogs, you’ll… Stink in the morning. Love all, trust… Me. The pen is mightier than the… Pigs. An idle mind is… The best way to relax. Where’s there’s smoke, there’s… Pollution. Happy the bride who… Gets all the presents. A penny saved is… Not much. Two’s company, three’s… Musketeers. Don’t put off till tomorrow what… You put on to go to bed. Laugh and the whole world laughs with you, cry and… You have to blow your nose. Children should be seen and not… Spanked or grounded. If at first you don’t succeed… Get new batteries. You get out of something what you… See pictured on the box. When the blind lead the blind… Get out of the way. with love, oon xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Blur245 at xxx.com Wed Mar 17 15:41:54 1999 From: Blur245 at xxx.com (Blur245 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:41:54 EST Subject: Sinister: Monday Night Madness Message-ID: <665fe7d3.36efcd42@aol.com> Hi Fellow Listees. Sorry about the lack of B&S content in this letter,but I was going to let anyone of the fellow listees from Florida about a British night happening in Orlando.It is a the Go-Lounge locatated in Downtown Orlando at Wall Street and its every Monday night from 10pm-3am.They play everything from The Small Faces,Nick Drake and B&S you can even bring stuff for the DJ to play as well.Anyone interested or need directions E-Mail me.Also anyone going to Glasto this year. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From S.Ludlam at xxx.com Wed Mar 17 15:43:06 1999 From: S.Ludlam at xxx.com (Simon Ludlam) Date: 17 Mar 99 15:43:06 +0000 Subject: Sinister: looper review and a sugary powder-based beverage Message-ID: Christa Chaffinch wrote: >Camber Sands is a nice thing to fantasize about while trying to avoid performing >menial tasks at work. Work has been very "hey koolaid" lately.** What's "hey koolaid" mean? Ralph Wiggum ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The views expressed in the EMail and files transmitted with it are those of the individual not the company. 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I knew it was going to be a good day. I have been smelling yeast all week as i live behind the Guinness distillery where all the UK's black stuff (trivia: it's actually ruby red, hold it to the light!) is cultivated and canned, and in the run up to St Patricks day they have been on over drive, making me a right little Horlicks head! Grandmother sun is shining down on Soho square and the people are starting to unashamedly shed their winter shawls as spring creeps in, and the beaming lunch was capped with finding the Looper cd for six quid in the worlds most cramped cd shop on Rupert st..(If your in London, theres still a few left!) hope all is shiny in my fellow sinisterees backyards, and dont forget to down some guinness today, it's good for you. magpie jay Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samiamx at xxx.com Wed Mar 17 16:08:04 1999 From: samiamx at xxx.com (Sam Devere) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 08:08:04 PST Subject: Sinister: that thyme of ear Message-ID: <19990317160804.17753.qmail@hotmail.com> While tramping about in an inebriated mess in Washington DC I ran into Ian S. from Make-Up (ex-Nation of Ulysses) somewhere near Mount Pleasant at 3 AM. Quite an interesting encounter, he said he'd heard that this list stirs up some noise. BTW, the Ulysses '13 point plan to destroy america' is a nice little romp. Anyone know of good live venues in Santa Fe, Alb. and Taos? Tomorrow I'm heading out to the continental divide (and the three cities) to play, board and listen to Depeche Mode's 'Route 66'. Sammy NP: King of Spain by Galaxie 500 Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From viscount at xxx.net Wed Mar 17 16:43:11 1999 From: viscount at xxx.net (Andrew Tracey) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 16:43:11 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I know where the summer dwells... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19990317164311.006d9160@clara.net> At 02:10 pm 17/03/99 GMT0BST, Robin wrote: >Sorry, I must be more relevant. >Andrew Tracey said: >>The problem is I can't read books. Lord knows I've tried. >>I've bought half a dozen books in the past six months but I can't >>seem to finish any of them. >Maybe you're just reading the wrong books for you. I'm a physics >student too and for some reason I got it into my head a few years ago >that I ought to be reading science fiction. So I tried, and I failed, >and I realised that I just didn't enjoy that sort of book. So look >around for your sort of book. If that fails what you should do is >get a book and rip out say, nine pages in ten. That way a two-hundred >page book will be reduced to twenty pages. Hooray! You've read it in >half an hour! Reminds me of an old Woody Allen joke, from the time he did stand up comedy. This works best if you imagine Woody saying it with Woody length pauses between lines. 'I've recently been studying a speed reading course................ It's absolutely fantastic.............. I read War and Peace in twenty minutes................................... ...............It's about Russia' Mark - I can't believe I missed Celtic Giant. Just goes to show I should never speed read the Racing Post. I think we've drawn a blank so far today - I shall see what I can root out for tomorrow. bye for now andrew (honey - I'm not a real viscount so there's no point in anyone marrying me for my money) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Wed Mar 17 16:38:40 1999 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 16:38:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Why Oh Why Oh Why Message-ID: Honey, the new fonts are scaring me, and I refuse to search the archives until you've done something about them. So was Elvis a cat or what, and who is this Monica Queen anyway? I've never read any Kerouac and don't know enough about him to add anything to debate on his private life, but he's been mentioned in songs by B&S, the Go Betweens and, erm, Marillion, so he has acquired a few pop credentials along that road he was on. As for Robbie, I LOVE ROBBIE! OK? Have done ever since he was in the 'That. There's nothing rational about it, so your anti-Robbie arguments are all completely lost on me, however valid they may be. His music's shite though, especially Angels. Ailsa brought something to my attention regarding Bowlie tickets, which I don't think has been mentioned on Sinister. If it has been mentioned already then I'm sorry, but as previously mentioned I am refusing to use the archives at present. Check out the Jeepster Bowlie page and you will see that a few people have been panicking about the non-arrival of tickets in the post. According to David there will be no tickets as such, the person who phoned in their credit card details will have to sign a credit card slip when they arrive. This means that you MUST take your credit card with you, and if you used someone else's card to book a chalet then you might run into problems when you arrive, if you have no alternative way of paying for the chalet. Kevan The Fat Slug *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From M223CMellan at xxx.uk Wed Mar 17 17:00:40 1999 From: M223CMellan at xxx.uk (M223CMellan) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 17:00:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Life, why, girrrlllls, and scotland freezes over regularly - okay? Message-ID: <16590004607164@holyrood.gla.sch.uk> I'm really sorry if I turned the list into a mass of weeping folk last week, commenting on how crappy and bitchy life can be ('how bleak life is, man') but sometimes, a boy has gotta do what he shouldn't. But hey - the topic has changed onto books. It's true - kerouak was a drug fueled hippy who wrote books for people who had why posters on thier walls. My sister has a friend who does theology as one of her electives at uni, and this person was sitting an exam, with a question which people were writing screeds about, giving their theories on life. The question read "why?". The person wrote "Why not - shit happens, so get over it", and got full marks. A good answer, I think. I'm still bleedin' inside cause I haven't said anything to he girl. Still, we're going to a celtic match in about 2 weeks (for americans, and others, celtic are a 'soccer' club, or as mr tommy burns might say "celticfootballclub"). If we score lots of goals, that would equate to lots of hugging opertunities, pehaps a passionate embrace, or two. unless she were to hit me and say - "get lost". and I would feel really bad about life and everything. A 'yank' (sounds like :- 'wank' ) said >They live in Scotland, >yeah, but Scotland gets hot, too! Why were all those kids from >Trainspotting running around in tiny little t-shirts? Eh? You can't fool >us yanks! Next thing I know you're going to tell me heroin makes you >sweat! What the hell would you know? you don't have to freeze your crystalballs on the 2 mile walk to school (this is no joke - 2 miles wth frozen balls - read it and weep). Still, I am able to polish (you might say 'buff') them up to a lovely crystal sparkle afterwards. And anyway, I wouldn't know about herion, drugs are evil, and so are obese americans (the american bit was a joke, the drugs bit wasn't) Scotland, glasgow in particular, is an bad place. It is full of 'bams', 'neds'. Hey, the film is coming soon - in KAPPAVISION tm. Fran Healy from travis said on a teletext page that with us scots, if life gets us down, we write a song about it. He is also meant to be a chum of Stu M - in fact, b&s were refereed to by the teletext page as "trendy glasgow band belle & sebastian". Oh my god - does this mean that we are all, as fans, trendies, and in with the "cool set". hope not. (by the way, do you like my new, and hopefully improved, tag?) Chris Mellan "CRYSTALBALLS" - the original and best M223CMELLAN at holyrood.gla.sch.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Mar 17 18:10:43 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 19:10:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Hold Off! Unhand Me, Graybeard Loon! Message-ID: <01be70a1$79c5bc00$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Has Mister Honey had a birthday? Did it coincide with Jack Kerouac's? Bloody beatniks, the pair of you! Happy birthday, Big Tackle! I look forward to abusing that "no-mail" setting on the first Tuesday of every month. Do they all come tumbling out at you when you switch it off again? I think it's a bit unfair to accuse Jack Kerouac of being a misogynist, just because he invented the expression "her indoors" to refer to his wife. It's funny that Tim should mention using his books as bog roll, because legend has it that "On the Road" was written on a massive toilet roll in five minutes of speed-driven creativity, or something. And the band played be-bop if you like. Tim also wrote: The LP of the Investiture of the Prince of Wales (1969) came out on well-respected reggae label Pama Records. This is the truth. This is the most fascinating thing I've read on the list in ages. This is the truth. Have you got it, Tim? Could you scan the cover and send it to Paul? I've seen that Welsh voodoo slate circle thing where he was initiated, you know. Prince Charles, I mean, not Paul. It was the same day I bought the Runaround Quiz Book, which was the subject of fevered debate on the list a few months ago. WHSmith's. The Queen did it. Wearing green, I think. Steady on, Steady Mike! There's plenty of mileage to be got from the Generous Whales website! We could even have a competition to see who can find most mistakes in Isobel's lovely wee story "Modern Homes". I counted over forty, not including errors of judgement. Someone needs an Accu-type course, I think. I started one, but never got past teh first level. See what I mean? Intelligentsia indeed! Pah! PAH! Speaking of courses, how come only students feel the need to tell 1000 strangers what "work" they're doing? You don't hear roadsweepers saying "I've got fourteen streets to do before lunchtime" do you? DO YOU? No, you don't. Because no one gives two hoots. Ooon, hopefully I can alleviate your suffering (or make it worse) by getting round to sending your tape, provisionally entitled "Madame Ooon's Exotic Palace of Soul". I'm sad you're not going to Camber sands, I was looking forward to hearing about your attempts to do your elephant nonsense with the donkeys. The wedding guest he beat his breast, Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lost_madflowr at xxx.com Wed Mar 17 17:53:50 1999 From: lost_madflowr at xxx.com (lost madflowr) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 09:53:50 PST Subject: Sinister: what to do in new york 17-22 march Message-ID: <19990317175350.21998.qmail@hotmail.com> i'm gonna be near nyc from today 17 march, wednesday until 22 march, monday. anyone know of any good bands playing or anything else to do in nyc during this time period? friday night i'm set i believe. but thursday saturday and sunday i'm up for suggestions! mail back just to me please. don't want to clog up the list. evol madflowr maybe a picnic? please? :) Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From schrasj at xxx.com Wed Mar 17 20:24:43 1999 From: schrasj at xxx.com (Graham LeBron) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 12:24:43 PST Subject: Sinister: Hey Koolaid! Message-ID: <19990317202444.4036.qmail@hotmail.com> sometimes, in america at least, if you're just sitting at work bored to hell, or listening to terrible lectures for hours on end, you and others may spontaneously shout "Hey Kool-aid!!" amazingly enough, the larger than life kool-aid man crashes through the wall with enough kool aid for everyone! instant party, see? I imagine he'll proly be at camber sands, relaxing and waiting for another wall to break through. or at least thats what I'll be doing there. cheers, gram Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atremp at xxx.be Wed Mar 17 20:30:41 1999 From: atremp at xxx.be (Annie Tremp) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 21:30:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: how belle and sebastian made my day... Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990317213041.007a7ec0@mach.vub.ac.be> hmmm... i'm feeling very good right now! the day started out really rotten when my botanics teacher didn't show up, which usually wouldn't sound too bad (on the contrary) but since i had to get up at 6.45 and we'll have to catch up while we're already on a very tight schedule, i wasn't really smiling this morning. so i went home in a very grumpy mood only to find...a package waiting for me with everything in it to make my day! so i've been listening to '3...6...9...seconds of light' the whole afternoon wearing my beautiful new t-shirt and putting my badges on every bag i could find. and honestly, who could keep on moaning under such circumstances? i've even decided that my laboratory exam (for i have one tomorrow)is going to go perfectly well and i plan to keep on smiling even if it doesn't. andrew tracey said that he couldn't read a whole book anymore, i've got the same problem with films right now (what is wrong with us "scientific people", huh?). it sounds stupid, but even if i like it, after 20 minutes i just have to go do something else. maybe i'll train myself by watching my old cartoons again. this is gonna sound weird but i learnt english by watching tex avery cartoons when i was little. i couldn't read yet so i couldn't read the subtitles. i'm serious about this! my parents told me that suddenly they noticed i understood everything that was said. so never let anyone tell you cartoons are bad for you! and andrew, whatever you do, don't read several books at once. i'm reading four right now and the least i can say is it gets a bit confusing... sometimes it's quite funny though, when you start mixing things up. maybe i should continue revising for tomorrow... xo, (it looks nice AND it'a a great album!) annie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ImThomsGrl at xxx.com Wed Mar 17 20:28:40 1999 From: ImThomsGrl at xxx.com (ImThomsGrl at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 15:28:40 EST Subject: Sinister: Life, why, girrrlllls, and scotland freezes over regularly - ok... Message-ID: In a message dated 3/17/99 5:05:50 PM GMT Standard Time, M223CMellan at holyrood.gla.sch.uk writes: << What the hell would you know? you don't have to freeze your crystalballs on the 2 mile walk to school (this is no joke - 2 miles wth frozen balls - read it and weep). Still, I am able to polish (you might say 'buff') them up to a lovely crystal sparkle afterwards. And anyway, I wouldn't know about herion, drugs are evil, and so are obese americans (the american bit was a joke, the drugs bit wasn't) Scotland, glasgow in particular, is an bad place. It is full of 'bams', >> First off... OUCH!!! this is when i say i'm glad i'm not a male.... HOWEVER... a question.... does this mean John "Disco" Clark from bis' balls freeze when he takes a little walk??? hmmmm....... Interesting..... I wonder if all this freezing action to your precious jewels will effect your fertility rate at all? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From editor at xxx.uk Wed Mar 17 21:10:09 1999 From: editor at xxx.uk (duke of harringay) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 21:10:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: luna loopers References: <36EF7CD3.33A4@alphalink.com.au> Message-ID: <36F01A31.E15CB5DE@tangents.co.uk> hello, my name is kit. listening to the looper lp and thinking again about that dreaded troon promenade with it's bugging system designed to catch glaswegian crack dealers which cruelly backfired one day back in '78, recording all my deranged infantile imaginactions onto a microtape before sending them into the ethers to emerge, not unlike the bloke with the envelope in the rain in Back To The Future, in the greasy paws of one Stuart David twenty years later and from which he constructed his Looper myth. he even has the gall to write a story about a beach. the cheeck of it. i listened to the Looper lp on the way to school today. the sun was in the sky, the sky was blue, and the little tale about laying on your back and looking at the stars with your back getting wet from the dew, well i tell you my heart lodged in my throat. i played it in my class several hours later to the strains of 'what's that shit?' except they never said shit because they would have got into trouble. obviously. kids today. no taste. sheesh. why does no-one talk about glo-worm on the list? don't people know of their god-like genius? and is anyone else beside themselves at the prospect of the Black Tambourine CD coming out sometime soon on Slumberland records? What do you mean, Slumberwhat and Black tambawho? You never heard 'Throw Aggi Off The Bridge' with it's Meat Whiplash sonic wall of melody? And you ask Meat Wholash???? get an education, kids! someone mentioned Luna. their new single is fantastic, plus they do a cover of Kraftwerk's 'Neon Lights'. it's fine fine fine, which is all you'd expect from a group that marries Galaxie 500 to the mythical Feelies. Did you know that Del Amitri once wanted to be like the Feelies? the new Wilco record is lovely too. keep the faith, the duke ------------------------------------------ 'what's the name they call ones like us?' ------------------------------------------ Tangents On-Line http://www.tangents.co.uk PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK editor at tangents.co.uk ------------------------------------------ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From viscount at xxx.net Thu Mar 18 02:41:39 1999 From: viscount at xxx.net (Andrew Tracey) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 02:41:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Andrew and his dream of his horses actually winning Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19990318024139.006a640c@clara.net> OK, so the racing tips have been disastrous but if we include Mark's Celtic Giant we're in profit so for the last day of Cheltenham we have 2.00 Knife Edge - what the Brits vote was on or The Gene Genie - it's nearly called the Bowie weekender 2.35 Go Informal - upside down badges may stand out in a crowd but they're not smart 3.15 Go Ballistic - which we all did when we heard B+S had won or See More Business - I wonder if it's related to See More Stein (very bad pun) 3.55 Celtic Abbey - see Mark, I noticed this one or Sands Of Gold - ease your feet into the sea at the weekender 4.30 Sublime Fellow - is Stuart 5.05 Mr Strong Gale - Mr Waterman is huffing and puffing but he won't blow our house down 5.40 Once More For Luck - we didn't know how many votes we needed or Sound Appeal - B+S's sound does appeal, that's why we like them Interesting mystical linkage - Pavement are not playing at the weekender because they want to watch their horse running at the Kentucky Derby meeting. Rachel (or archel - I don't know which you prefer), what can you be tested on for seven days. That can't be one exam, can it?? I used to fall asleep after an hour and a half when I was doing mine. I'm sure I had something else I was going to tell you but I've forgotten what it is. It couldn't have been that important. bye bye for now my new best friends andrew +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.EDU Thu Mar 18 06:37:28 1999 From: ynoh at xxx.EDU (Youn Jong Noh) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 22:37:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: it is isobel on the sleeve of "the boy with the arab strap", isn't it? someone said something about her photos on stuart david's belle & sebastian site - about how the shadows were working for her - and the same might be true here because it was only after i had seen several of the black and white photos like that that i made the connection. but i wouldn't want to be mean and say she aspired to be a cover star the way one might of courtney love. but my confusion must be understandable because the only photo i had seen of her before was the one where she is wearing overall style shorts and standing next to sarah. here is another mystery. all the reports i've heard suggest that isobel is sort of stand-offish but is that because she is shy or because she has made herself into someone different? is judy the kind of girl that stuart would fall in love with or only the kind of girl he would write songs about? was it inevitable that isobel would make herself over in order to be loved by stuart and or did she gain confidence from that and then blossom or fade (whichever way you want to look at it)? or are they just photos that have nothing to do with the way people really are? where in america do people say "hey kool-aid"? i agree with the person who made the point about street sweepers. (sincerely, knowing that things sometimes come across funny on email) work = happiness i will be happy again. a long time ago, someone mentioned lloyd cole. would you agree that rattlesnakes is the best album and on it, rattlesnakes and four flights up are the best songs with are you ready to be heartbroken as runner-up? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Thu Mar 18 11:34:30 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 11:34:30 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Emu the Orphan Message-ID: Honey said: > - The "nomail" command - > > This is useful if you're going away but don't want to resign your > membership - just send the command: > > set sinister nomail > > (or sinister-digest) to "majordomo at majordomo.net" and lo and behold, > everything will go quiet till you send a "set mail". By which of course Honey meant "till you send a "set sinister mail" or "set sinister-digest mail". Just to avoid a barrage of confused orphaned listees. Talking of orphans, shed a little tear for Emu this morning. I'm not one to hark on about British-only-media things usually on this list, and let's not turn this into a massive thread but allow me to indulge myself just once, but this morning's news makes me dizzier than dizzy. Keen UK Norwich observers will remember that Alan Partridge's second series was finally agreed by the BBC when the chief commisioning editor for BBC2, Tony Hairs (sp?) fell off the roof of his house adjusting the aerial thus moving one of Alan's old mates into the chair. "How ironic that someone whose life was in broadcasting.." etc. Anyway, Rod Hull, the "veteran of british comedy" has died. He fell off the roof of his house "adjusting the aerial". http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/newsid_298000/298801.stm My excuse for this list indiscretion: that the phrase "Rod Hull" gets 10 matches in the list archive, none of which are mine, so clearly there's an issue of public concern here. As far as I'm concerned, it's all too scary and I think I'm going back to bed. honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pamelab at xxx.com Thu Mar 18 11:45:12 1999 From: pamelab at xxx.com (pamela berry) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 11:45:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: we can make the world a whole lot brighter Message-ID: <36F0E748.9C6B7C65@mcmail.com> hi everyone! I come bearing news of the full-up nature of the bowlie double decker bus. I can't believe there was ever a time right there at the beginning when I thought to myself, self, it might be craziness to try to fill up an entire bus. but there are scads and scads of pro-bus people flying in from faraway lands and it didn't take long after all! I've got a waiting list going in case anybody drops out, give me a shout if you want to be on it. it's in the bus contract that we aren't supposed to hang banners off the side of the bus, boo hiss. I have also noticed it's in the contract that anyone who wants to sing robbie williams, billie, or britney spears songs on the bus has to use their inside voices. hey, I don't make the rules. oooooon, you are very strong for such a slight gal, and I'm very sad you won't be taking a break from swinging tigers by their tails to come to camber sands. I'd steal the answers to the math part of the entrance exam for you if I thought it would sway your decision. just because I like to sit in the front of the bus doesn't mean I'm not a bad seed, make no mistake. just yesterday I ate more than half of one of those self-serve chocolate cookies in tesco *before* I got to the checkout. call on me oon, I'm at your service. call on me oon, I need a consultation. nobody one the big lottery jackpot this week. if our numbers come up I'll be nick cage and you can be bridget fonda and we'll split the take. you all make me feel so spring has sprung. it's perfect weather to listen to chris montez, and now I can listen to that sixties god of alluring vocals and suave handclaps and watch tv at the same time, because for some crazy reason they're playing chris montez on that green giant broccoli commercial. I knew I could multitask by the end of this decade if I put my head to it. I don't want to give anyone the impression, however correct, that I watch too much television, but is anyone else in the uk traumatised by that oxo advert, the one where the couple are in the car having a flashback about some hot weekend they spent in preston? it's the flashback, she hands him the plate of chicken at the family dinner table and drools, "and michael...remember preston." cut to the present, back in the car with hubby driving and her lascivious query, "so what's on the menu tonight?" cue the big green highway sign pointing the way to preston, fade out with some porn trumpets. fluffy sarah, what the hell is going on in preston that you haven't been telling us? xopam +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From giita at xxx.com Thu Mar 18 13:00:28 1999 From: giita at xxx.com (Aileen Hammond) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 05:00:28 PST Subject: Sinister: Bowlie problems... Message-ID: <19990318130029.18664.qmail@hotmail.com> >According to David there will be no tickets as such, the person who >phoned in their credit card details will have to sign a credit card >slip when they arrive. This means that you MUST take your credit >card with you, and if you used someone else's card to book a chalet >then you might run into problems when you arrive, if you have no >alternative way of paying for the chalet. I�ve got this problem..See I used my firends credit card and she won�t allow me to bring it to England for the festival + I live in Iceland and I have already bought plane tickets for the fest.. What to do?? I am rightly pissed off. I rang up Ticketweb and the nice lady told me to send a letter to Ticketweb stating my situation, that�s all I can do. It better work! Giita Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jj at xxx.com Thu Mar 18 13:49:34 1999 From: jj at xxx.com (jj) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 08:49:34 -0500 Subject: Sinister: re: luna loopers Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990318084934.009a8740@mail.si.umich.edu> >why does no-one talk about glo-worm on the list? don't people know of >their god-like genius? and is anyone else beside themselves at the >prospect of the Black Tambourine CD coming out sometime soon on >Slumberland records? What do you mean, Slumberwhat and Black tambawho? >You never heard 'Throw Aggi Off The Bridge' with it's Meat Whiplash >sonic wall of melody? And you ask Meat Wholash???? get an education, >kids! i'm beside myself 'cos i had the honor of being asked to release the vinyl edition of this fine retrospective compilation (the answer was a resounding "abso-f***-ing lutely! when the inquiry was made about whether i'd be interested)...so yuppers, the 10" vinyl black tambourine comp will be brought to you courtesy of fantastic, in conjunction with our dear friends at slumberland. now for some minimal b&s content - i had a request for b&s on my radio show yesterday and despite the fact that its fundraiser week and the requester did not make a pledge to the station, i certainly couldn't turn down such a request (especially considering most of the phone calls i get request blah stuff that i don't want to play) - so string bean jean it was. and if the requester happens to be on this list, remember, there's still several more days to make that pledge ;) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * fantastic po box 4492 ann arbor mi 48106 usa http://www.fantasticpop.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Thu Mar 18 15:14:50 1999 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:14:50 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: university challenge Message-ID: unfortunately andrew i'm not allowed to answer your question about what you can be tested on for 7 days, as apparently students are boring when they talk about their work. just be grateful, mr miller, that i'm not sharing with the list what i'm inflicting on my friends - updates on how many words i've written every hour or so. serge gainsbourg has just started being all smooth and funky in my headphones, giving me strength to face the disser__ oops, nearly said the word... last night when i got home i played TBWTAS very loudly, which i've realised is really the only way to do it, especially on a sunny spring evening with the windows open. unfortunately my evening was tainted by my boyfriend phoning me in the middle of Dawson's Creek, but you can't have everything. 2600 words... luv archel ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ***** do something pretty while you can don't be afraid skating a pirouette on ice is cool - belle and sebastian -------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From viscount at xxx.net Thu Mar 18 19:49:22 1999 From: viscount at xxx.net (Andrew Tracey) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 19:49:22 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Horses and Hazelwood Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19990318194922.0068cbb0@clara.net> I would like to draw your attention to the result of today's Cheltenham Gold Cup 1st See More Business - 16/1 2nd Go Ballistic - 66/1 The forecast for these two together paid £659.57 for a £1 stake. Alas, I didn't back either of these. I hope someone did so the list profits in some way. In a discussion about Lee Hazelwood on another list, someone said that Dog on Wheels is just Summer Wine (a Hazelwood song) with different lyrics. Is anyone who is familiar with Lee Hazelwood's output able to cast any light on this vicious slur? bye for now andrew +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jimgrund at xxx.fr Thu Mar 18 19:38:16 1999 From: jimgrund at xxx.fr (Jan Imgrund) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 20:38:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Dog on Hazlewood In-Reply-To: <199903181614.RAA24734@firewall.agf.fr> Message-ID: <199903181938.UAA27457@front2.grolier.fr> Hi List. someone on the tindersticks list claimed that "Dog on Wheels" is the same song as "Summer Wine" by Lee Hazlewood, with different lyrics. Does anyone know if that is true? They did not give him credit, anyway. Take care. Jan The Dark Site of the Moon: http://perso.club-internet.fr/jimgrund/index.html "Why are there so many skunks in Texas and so many lawyers in California? - Texas had the choice" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Thu Mar 18 22:16:59 1999 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 22:16:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Why does noone talk about Glo-Worm on the list? In-Reply-To: <36F01A31.E15CB5DE@tangents.co.uk> Message-ID: Well I would have put some money on that horse today, but I'm still recovering from the news that Mark C thinks of my singing every time he hears Modern Rock Song. Poor bugger. And I must just say how nice it is to have the delightful Genevieve back with us again. I'm just jealous of all the people at her prom who'll see her in an old-style heaving bosom type dress. We demand photos! Anyway, the real reason I'm posting is because noone has mentioned yet the Genital Warts article in this week's NME. It's quite long, but here goes: "People are rarely what they seem. It's the quiet, 'keep themselves to themselves' types who end up rampaging through shopping centres with rifles, and the jovial pub jokers who end up putting their heads in the gas oven. Meeting Isobel Campbell, sometime cellist with Belle And Sebastian, in the sunny surrounds of a South London bistro, you'd have her pencilled down as a gentle, happy-go-lucky funstress within 15 seconds. And you'd be wrong. The release of her first solo project, The Gentle Waves' 'The Green Fields Of Foreverland...' will show that behind the effervescent persona and lilting Glaswegian burr lurks a heart of darkness. Its eerie, psychedelic-folk overtones, leavened by some sparkling songwriting, cannot mask the fact that this is mournful stuff. "I am quite grim," she smiles. "Ask anyone that knows me properly. A lot of people think there's nothing going on in my head because I'm giggly, but I'm a lot more thoughtful than people give me credit for." So exactly how did this exercise in dourness come about? What was it that turned this mild-mannered, multi-instrumentalist into a squeakier version of Nico? She pauses. She's not really sure. The facts are simple. Before joining Belle And Sebastian she was a 19-year-old university student, lazing about, going to parties and buying records, but long, long before this, she had started writing. "I had been making four-track recordings with friends for ages," she explains. "But I was writing songs even when I was a wee girl." While her musical contribution to B&S has been plentiful, she still harboured ambitions to make her own record. In the end it took only one week out of the band's busy schedule to make that dream a reality. "We'd been away in America in the tourbus and it was awful," she groans. "It doesn't matter if you're with the most wonderful people in the world, if you haven't got your own space it's just..." she makes a face, "Grrrrrrr. We had four days off when we got back and after I'd caught up on my sleep I made the record." Recorded with the help of friends and bandmates Richard Colburn, Chris Geddes, Stuart Murdoch, Mick Cooke and Stevie Jackson, 'The Green Fields...' and forthcoming single 'Weathershow', sound anything but rushed. That being said, there is a song on the album,'Tree Lullaby', which appears to be addressed to, well, a tree. Care to explain? "It's not to a tree," she states with mild disdain. "It's more humanity." She rolls her eyes in disgust: "Oh God, that's so cheesy. I like trees though. Sometimes trees look like people because they're so twisted, y'know?" Erm, yeeeesss. We edge towards the door smiling and making sure to maintain eye contact. Sure, Isobel Campbell seems like sweetness and light personified but you can never be sure." I don't think I'll bother typing in the Looper live review as well because, well, it's not quite so complimentary. Other top moments from this week's NME include their description of "Belle And Sebastian's forthcoming nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp gangwanking whimsy-thon". I kid you not... Big Stu PS If you're bored, head for http://www.email.net/work-well-together.html o o o, ,o, ,o o o> <|> /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ Hey! Macarena... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mew817 at xxx.com Fri Mar 19 03:19:15 1999 From: Mew817 at xxx.com (Mew817 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 22:19:15 EST Subject: Sinister: ah spring days....and Robbie too! Message-ID: <1cb902d9.36f1c233@aol.com> It has finally warmed up here in Atlanta and I am enjoying beautiful spring weather! On my way home from work I listened to TBWTAS in the car...windows down, sun shining, slight breeze....what a great mood that put me in! So I am wanted to add what I think of good ol' Robbie Williams. He is the best! His music may not be good, but it is amusing, and he is a great entertainer. He just makes me laugh because he has that dance where he marches and bobs his head forward and backward and looks like a chicken! -Do you know which one I'm talking about? I can actually imitate it well, too bad I won't be at the Bowlie Weekender to show you all! My American friends and I who were living in London for a bit, fell in love with Robbie while we were there! You just don't get that kind of entertainment here! Robbie is one of a kind. Oh, I just saw a tape of the Brits (Dmitry lent it to me). It was very cool to see, even though stupid ABC chopped the whole thing up and didn't show the best newcomer award. They mostly showed performances....I am going to write them and tell them how shite it was that they chopped the whole thing up. And also tell them that the former Wonderbra spokes person (I think that's what she was), Madison Michele is not the right person for the presenting job...she had no clue what she was doing! I loved Robbie's performance especially the bit where he held the mic stand in front of his crotch--now that's true Robbie style! Alright, this is long enough! Oh yeah, I've really enjoyed Mrs. Murdoch's posts, they are a highlight of the list for me. Take care mew x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Fri Mar 19 08:55:50 1999 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 00:55:50 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Strawberries, cherries and a dog on wheels Message-ID: Hello Sinisterines Interesting theory about Dog on Wheels, obviously completely wrong though, just listen: Dog on Wheels goes: "La la la la de da de da la la la" Summer Wine goes: "La la la la de da de da la la la" Oh bugger, well the words are different anyway, one is about writing all your songs for a Dog on Wheels, and the other is about a cowboy getting drugged by Nancy Sinatra so she can steal all his stuff. Interesting chap Lee Hazelwood, best known for the songs he wrote for Nancy Sinatra (including These Boots were made for Walkin') and he is also the man who loosened Duane Eddy's guitar strings. Incidentally, I seem to remember reading somewhere that Summer Wine is Kim Gordon's favourite song. I prefer Ladybird myself. Kevan The Fat Slug *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rehakk at xxx.edu Fri Mar 19 09:11:28 1999 From: rehakk at xxx.edu (Kimberly Rehak) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 04:11:28 -0500 Subject: Sinister: incoherence to sinister Message-ID: <042201be71e8$7a074240$9e84c38d@rehakk.alleg.edu> hello you lot! well, i'm in the midst of writing a paper for tomorrow so i decided i need a break. i need a break!!!! ah. SNAPs! that my spring break begins in twelve hours so that i won't have my little head explode. bOOm! i've been listening to alot of stu-and-the-gang lately because i've been upset about a boy. but i just listened to some of the clash, then some sleater kinney, now i'm onto some tori--i'm getting better! eh?--(sorry, everything i listen to is pretty mainstream!) ...speaking of mainstream, eh-HEMM!, it seems that the lovely b&s are becoming quite that. i saw a picture of IYFS in JANE magazine i forget what for. why was i reading that magazine? (sorry if you like, but i'd define it as a TEEN for those who are not teen. would you call that accurate?) my darling friend [marie] *somehow* received it in her mailslot one day and i was flipping through it while she tried to do her homework for her chemistry-for-english-majors-class. we had a brief "that's odd" interlude about that. hardly worth mentioning, i know...there was an article that i read in there on the artist formerly known as ginger spice too. ooolala so what else? my heel hurts. i just realized that it has been bleeding. "the boy" slapped me in the heel where i had a blister from wearing too-high pink velvet platforms the other day. i'm such a girl... alright, some b&s content: the other day (the day i was wearing the pink shoes) i was giving my friend tapes of the black sessions and tigermilk for him to tape and this is the conversation that ensued: him: we're like dead-heads me: yeah, except for something alittle more meaningful him: haha, well, it depends on who you talk to me: i know... (i think if i talked to half of the people that go to my school i'd get banished for the "meaningful" part of that conversation. and if i said that about dave matthews i'd get castrated) isn't that _true_ though? i assume if it wasn't that i wouldn't be here thinking to myself that *maybe* one of the 900 or so of you out there is going to like me and is actually read this. to make anyone feel better who feels the same way, i read you!!! i think this post is going like my paper on dickens, the social reformist. very incoherient. but that's how i am. any suggestions for cds i should get when i'm home for break?? i already have started to compile a list. i always go through the scenario where i forget everthing i wanted to buy as soon as i walk into a store, so i'm hoping this works. i saw the russian film "bop" [the thief] today. what a beautiful little boy with a sad story. you should see it, yes! wowo, i'm writing alot tonight, shame-shame it's not for my paper. i wrote a poem. i had it all typed up to send to every one of you. i'm not a good judge of poetry AT ALL but i like it because it is the first time i've been really honest with myself about a situation...but i got a rush of self-consciousness and deleted it. but if you would like to read it i could send it to you (personally, of course). i'm going to finish my paper now. i am...really... all you in london, take care of my marie for me next week! byebye kisskiss KIMberly *do something pretty while you can. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From WarranderJ at xxx.uk Fri Mar 19 10:58:36 1999 From: WarranderJ at xxx.uk (Warrander John - FML) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:58:36 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Touch my penis with the milk from your mother's breast (which is sour) Message-ID: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B0050F140@masslab1> Hello my long haired lovers from Liverpool, Has nobody mentioned the "unofficial" CD release of the Black Session cos they're worried that Jeepster will come round their house and give them a good kicking? I wouldn't concern yourselves too much, I shouldn't imagine Jeepster quite have the power of arrest just yet. Well, not for just knowing about bootlegs. I wouldn't do anything rash like buying these things or anything stupid like that. Especially not from your friendly local market stall record dealer. Even if he does offer you a "good price". After the Brits success and a rumoured five fold increase in record sales for our heroes, that's a lot of pennies in the kitty for the hiring of a crack legal team. So be warned. I personally passed on the "bootleg" CD option in favour of supporting Isobel's alleged "cake" habit by purchasing both The Gentle Waves single and album. The single reminds me of one of Stoke's 80s indie hopefuls, jangletastic power poppers The Rosehips. One of my favourite bands not so long ago and on the wonderful Subway label to boot. Did anybody else see Martin Whitehead on the telly recently? He still looks like a girl. Anyway, not being a lazy good for nothing student I command an absolutely enormous disposable income so I went back and got the bootleg CD too. How fucking irresponsible was that? To those who like to dance, Mr McTaggart has decided to celebrate his birthday by swanning around Glasgow over Easter. Highlight of the weekend will be shaking his botty to the soulful tunes at Uptight on Good Friday. Small gifts would probably be well received. Any sick mutherf***ers in the great North West may be interested in Club International at Night & Day on Thursday April 1st. They're the ones with disabled people on their posters and the premise of the evening appears to be "insult as much people as possible", especially if they're "right-on Northern Quarter (hahaha) wankers". Apparently they will play some fairly groovy 60s garage punk in between the tasteful ditties by "unfortunate" children and blind accordion players. I'm afraid I can't reveal exactly what the cabaret will consist of cos they won't tell me. They do have the interesting concept of paying to get out though. See you all there then. Love...John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MctaggartR at xxx.com Fri Mar 19 11:10:11 1999 From: MctaggartR at xxx.com (Mctaggart, Robert) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 11:10:11 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I'd rather Jack Message-ID: Dear Beatniks and Book Burners, Naively, I never expected my Jack Kerouac comments to cause such a stir. I err...got a bit carried away. Actually, I do like one Kerouac novel, "Maggie Cassidy". By the end of that one I was in love with Maggie Cassidy myself, which is quite a compliment, I think. Tim's right too, what people are like in person doesn't necessarily negate the work they produce. I'm a big Serge Gainsbourg fan and no-one could call him perfect. But at least he never pretended otherwise and I find Jack's preaching of freedom just a tad hypocritical, given that he was prone to bigotry. And I think he's the sort of person who likes to come out with the statement "I love women" when he really means "I'm constantly on the pull cos I think with my prick, and I'm too fucking selfish to have any concept of loyalty". Anyway, I'll pass over the comments comparing criticising Kerouac to right wing bible belt book burners, because that was just ridiculous. Mark C wrote: >I don't know if being a pure route one entertainer is a valid reason for >liking anyone (back to Steps again, I suppose). I read an interview with Pete Waterman on the train the other day. In it, he cited the mighty influences of Northern Soul, Motown and hi-NRG on his work, claimed that he was giving the kids what they want, said that he was "street" about 20 times (because he lives in Warrington, which is where I work, and it's hardly the Bronx), that people hated him merely because he was rich and successful, and that PWL were the most truly independent label in the country. All very interesting (except that's what he always says), and there may be some truth in it. So when you're listing your reasons for not liking Pete Waterman, the only really relevant one is not that he makes blatantly commercial production line pop records for a mass audiences, (there's nothing inherently wrong with that), but that Steps are shit. Peter Miller wrote: >Speaking of courses, how come only students feel the need to tell 1000 >strangers what "work" they're doing? You don't hear roadsweepers >saying "I've got fourteen streets to do before lunchtime" do you? DO >YOU? No, you don't. Because no one gives two hoots. It's funny cos it's true. Duke wrote: >You never heard 'Throw Aggi Off The Bridge' with it's Meat Whiplash >sonic wall of melody? Actually I have. And I rather liked it. But surely if you'd said a "Jesus and Mary Chain wall of melody", people might actually have got an idea of what you were talking about? >And you ask Meat Wholash???? get an education, kids! Yeah, you heard him - get an education kids. To save you from the wrath of our very own Oliver Cromwell of pop, here's the information you need. Meat Whiplash, named after one of the late, great Fire Engines' more average songs, came from Scotland (East Kilbride, as I recall). They made a single, "Don't slip up" on Creation, which sounded like it could've been a bonus track on "Psychocandy". Not bad, but nothing to feel you've missed out on. I seem to remember them doing a Peel session, but don't quote me on that. Better than Steps, but not as good as Britney Spears. I do hope that clears up any perceived gaps in your knowledge. Melonballs wrote: >(by the way, do you like my new, and hopefully improved, tag?) But Chris, how can you improve on perfection? Love Tag xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From u01cjtc at xxx.uk Fri Mar 19 13:31:16 1999 From: u01cjtc at xxx.uk (u01cjtc) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 13:31:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: students and kerouac. Message-ID: <36F251A4.BC205A5@abdn.ac.uk> The only reason students tell 1000 people they dont know, what they are doing is because they want to sound intellegent. By saying, "I've just finnished a 1000000 word essay on the political theories behind the writing the film, bambi. And i've got another one to write by lunchtime." we, the reader are supposed to think, "wow I could never do that, they must be a genius." It is a bit like your mother boasting about what amazing things you've been doing to other mothers in, for example, doctors' waiting rooms or down the bingo on a wednesday evening. It is self gratification without the need for tissues. I also like On the Road by Mr. Kerouac, but Desolation angels is a bit wank, and I know nothing about the guy so wouldn't like to comment. colin. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hopkinstim at xxx.com Fri Mar 19 13:34:22 1999 From: hopkinstim at xxx.com (Tim Hopkins) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 05:34:22 PST Subject: Sinister: The Rockin' Berries (NBSC. In fact, resoundingly off-topic) Message-ID: <19990319133423.49826.qmail@hotmail.com> Mister PJ 'Roger' Miller said (in reference to some fat berk talking about the LP of Prince Charles being given Wales for his very own...) >This is the most fascinating thing I've read on the list in ages. >This is the truth. Have you got it, Tim? Could you scan the cover >and send it to Paul? I've seen that Welsh voodoo slate circle thing >where he was initiated, you know. Prince Charles, I mean, not Paul. >It was the same day I bought the Runaround Quiz Book, which was the >subject of fevered debate on the list a few months ago. WHSmith's. >The Queen did it. Wearing green, I think. Sadly, I don't have the LP. I saw it in a pound box in a stall on Plymouth market about ten years ago. It might still be there, but I wouldn't recommend going to to look for it because Plymouth is a strange and terrible place. Strangely enough, the most loathsome aspect of that town is their particularly unpleasant football team, who play in a manky monkey-snot green strip. Perhaps green clothes is the link. Or perhaps it is the fact that Prince Charles is also the Duke of Cornwall, and Plymouth is (culturally) part of Cornwall. All I know is it's all related, pal. Yeah. Sorry if I have offended anyone from Plymouth on this list, but I'm only telling the truth. The Duke of Tiverton wrote: >some stuff I've deleted about Black Tambourine, and getting an >education Yes, yes, and don't you think the time might round about now be just perfect for that long dreamed-of Shapiros compilation, pal? How come no-one talks about the Shapiros on this list? For anyone intrigued by the prospect of getting a Dukester-style education, it is always important to remember that you absolutely ARE allowed to say "oi, Sir, what is this crap music you're playing? I can barely concentrate on my wire sculpture project", and (as long as you have remembered to call him Sir), he won't mind, especially since you mentioned Wire, which shows you've been listening. If he asks you to stay behind after pop class for a little extra Feelies lesson on the side, well, I can recommend it. But when it's time to study Meat Whiplash, run away. Pal. The best thing ever in Plymouth was a record shop called Meat Whiplash. It had *Bobby Gillespie* written on the shop hoarding. It was amazing. This was when Bobby was the International King of all things pop, mind, before he turned into a sad, wee-stained rawk parody. The shop closed down. Duke, what's the uniform like at the Harringay Ecole Superieur de Pop? And what are the fees? Hm. what an unusually South-West England orientated post. Ah! Lee Hazelwood. I detest Lee Hazelwood for the following reasons: 1. that moustache 2. forcing The Byrds to erase most of Gram Parsons' vocals from Sweetheart of The Rodeo. I'm not sure this is true, but I think it is. And here's a little riddle for you, from the Hopkins archive of elderly and retired jokes (it's where the jokes go to die): You're stuck in a lift with a hungry tiger, an angry cobra and the editor of a major music publication. You have a gun, and two bullets. What do you do? That is all for now. Sorry about the low interest factor in this post. But I was bursting to talk about the Shapiros. And now I've relived myself. Phew. Have good weekends Tim Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Fri Mar 19 14:19:43 1999 From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (Michael Jones) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 06:19:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Skank Bloc Bolognese Sauce Message-ID: <19990319141943.6966.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> Hello homies, I've just had some cod. It was bloody awful. Stuart Original-G had this to say: >Other top moments from this week's NME include their description of "Belle >And Sebastian's forthcoming nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet >holiday camp gangwanking whimsy-thon". I kid you not... Aww, don't it warm the cockles of your heart to see one of the more withered tentacles of IPC's Empire of Tedium get all flustered over something it has no part in ? That's all right boys, keep fondling the egos of myopic careerist pedestrian-grey guitar dullards with your tepid swill of arthritic prose - you never know, you might squeeze in an expenses jolly to Tokyo before the lights go out in Kings Reach Tower and you're left scrabbling around in the dirt for that last Mojo staffer position. Oh, that feels better. Though MS Word tells me it's too long a sentence. Get stretched, Billy G. Why does no-one talk about Belmondo on this list ? Are you all afraid ? There's a six-disc box-set coming out on Mille Plateaux early in the summer - liner notes by Helene Cixous, natch. All yr favourites and no filler. It's a perfect pop pal, pal. Mike. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eliam at xxx.edu Fri Mar 19 15:39:54 1999 From: eliam at xxx.edu (Marie Elia) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 99 10:39:54 -0500 Subject: Sinister: london calling Message-ID: <199903191531.KAA03191@pellns.alleg.edu> dear shinishter... wow... *sigh* of contentment... i was devoid of all hope of ever receiving my stow t-shirt (having ordered over 4 weeks ago), but today -- beautiful day! -- what's in my box? well, actually a little yellow slip with my name on it. but when i brought this little slip up to the nice post office ladies, they magically turned it into a slim, record-shaped, cardboard envelope... and inside -- powderblue goodness! just in time for me to wear it on my plane to london tomorrow... and possibly every day after that.... yes, as kimmy mentioned: i saw a picture of IYFS in JANE magazine i forget what for. why was i reading that magazine? (sorry if you like, but i'd define it as a TEEN for those who are not teen. would you call that accurate?) my darling friend [marie] *somehow* received it in her mailslot one day.... it was actually an advertisement for stereos or something, but there was a stack of cds, including IYFS, and also sonic youth, the eels, afghan whigs, pj harvey, and other assorted sundry albums... weird. the funny thing is, if it had been TBWTAS, it might have made sense, since that is new... hmmm... ah, but what kimmy failed to mention, although it was *implied*, is that i actually pay the good people at JANE my hard earned cash to send me their 120page piece of glossy fluff. what can i say? i take secret pleasure in running up to my room with a good fashion magazine and a box of cookies and poring over pics of models i'll never look like wearing clothes that would never fit me... a little sadistic, i know. but kimmy, what do you call wearing pink velvet platform shoes? girly, definitely. sadistic? quite possibly... well, if that's yr cup of tea... (kisskiss!) okay kids -- tomorrow, it's off to london for me! so far my only definite plans are the looper show on wednesday. otherwise it's three of us girls wandering about the streets... take care! xo, marie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Fri Mar 19 16:44:24 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 16:44:24 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Lycee Harringay Message-ID: Dear all: I hadn't noticed in any of his previous correspondence, our Duke was a teacher.His glamour has ,if such a thing is possible, rised and rised till unreachable levels after this discovery of mine. Exeter is a lovely place to bring kids up, the whole Devon is, so I will set up my official residence there when becoming a mother and obviously send my spree to Harringay.The uniform will be Campbell's kilt, what a question, Tim !And lessons will be like the Trapp family acts but with Felt / Feelies soundtrack. A. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Fri Mar 19 17:40:04 1999 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (Kerry Lannert) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 12:40:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: belle and sebbie dreams Message-ID: so i don't post very often, but i just had to share. last night *both* my boyfriend and i dreamt about belle and seb. funny thing, he's not even a fan. my dream wasn't very interesting: they played here at hampshire and i tracked down wee chris and talked to him, then someone stole my bag. very boring. but my boyfriend's dream was more interesting: he dreamt of an early release of judy and the dream of horses, and on the cover were two people from the band (one male, one female) dressed as teddy bears. tee hee. -kerry http://hamp.hampshire.edu/~kwl96 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nickdastoor at xxx.com Fri Mar 19 17:48:31 1999 From: nickdastoor at xxx.com (Nick Dastoor) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 09:48:31 PST Subject: Sinister: "...memory is not life and it's not love... Message-ID: <19990319174831.6195.qmail@hotmail.com> Youn Jong Noh pondered: > i wonder how stuart murdoch loves. Well I've heard salacious tales of Stuart and his romantic modus operandi to make a bed-wetter blush. I'm sure it's sufficiently chinese-whispered a story not to constitute a gross invasion of privacy. Apparently he got some girl back to his flat a while ago and after a while, got tired of being cute and came over all masterful instead. "So, are we going to to have sex then?" were his words, I'm told. Shocking. Exciting news on the non-B&S front: record shops are listing The Go-Betweens' Lost Album (78-79) as a forthcoming release (April 6th). All this Gold Cup talk and no one's spotted that when you hear the winner's name on the radio is sounds like 'Seymour Business' - more lateral thinking required. I think I've found another B&S worm in the media - Richard Longhurst in the Telegraph's IT Supplement reviewed the recommendation feature of www.tunes.com and plucked "toe-tapping tunesters Belle & Sebastian" as an example search. Apparently 'Bjorn227' likes them and is also into Jawbreaker and Guided by Voices. I'm very suspicious of such technologies - no matter how many Left Banke and Delroy Wilson records I put in my wish list, CDnow keeps recommending the Cure and Guns & Roses. 'Not for me' 'Not for me' I click, but all it does is suggests "Use Your Illusion 2" instead of "The Spaghetti Incident". Talking of recommendations, I'm very confused about this Camber Sands condom business. During which activity do they come into play - the solarium? Is it extra? Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.EDU Fri Mar 19 17:58:27 1999 From: ynoh at xxx.EDU (Youn Jong Noh) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 09:58:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: "...memory is not life and it's not love... In-Reply-To: <19990319174831.6195.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 19 Mar 1999, Nick Dastoor wrote: > Youn Jong Noh pondered: > > > i wonder how stuart murdoch loves. > > Well I've heard salacious tales of Stuart and his romantic modus > operandi to make a bed-wetter blush. I'm sure it's sufficiently > chinese-whispered a story not to constitute a gross invasion of > privacy. > > Apparently he got some girl back to his flat a while ago and after a > while, got tired of being cute and came over all masterful instead. > "So, are we going to to have sex then?" were his words, I'm told. > > Shocking. clearly you misunderstand the question but the difference between what i meant and what you said i meant is so obvious that i must conclude that you are deliberately pretending not to understand in order to create the implication that i originally meant what you said i meant but i will not be so easily led - i refuse to play that language game!!! sex is a proper subset of love. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From editor at xxx.uk Fri Mar 19 21:15:56 1999 From: editor at xxx.uk (duke of harringay) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 21:15:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: "...memory is not life and it's not love... References: <19990319174831.6195.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <36F2BE8C.45046184@tangents.co.uk> Nick Dastoor wrote: > Exciting news on the non-B&S front: record shops are listing The > Go-Betweens' Lost Album (78-79) as a forthcoming release (April 6th). spooky coincidence... i was talking to beggars people today and hearing about this release, plus a new 'best of' collection. not sure if it's best of go-betweens or a forster/mclennan solo best of. the former i expect. anyway, both releases to kill for. naturally. i also undestand that both forster and mclennan will be in the uk next month and then again in may to promote... i hope they play some shows. i'm off now to draw up the curriculum and rules for the harringay school of Pop. i'll let you all know about entrance exams, fees, uniforms etc just as soon as i can. keep the faith, the duke ------------------------------------------ 'what's the name they call ones like us?' ------------------------------------------ Tangents On-Line http://www.tangents.co.uk PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK editor at tangents.co.uk tel: 01392 670210 mobile: 07971 805671 ------------------------------------------ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eaws at xxx.com Fri Mar 19 20:52:37 1999 From: eaws at xxx.com (John) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 12:52:37 -0800 Subject: Sinister: The Shapiros/The Gentle Waves Message-ID: <39436485.2.5643@mx1-11.onmedia.com> Hi Tim (and list) I'm so so happy you brought up the Shapiros. What a brilliant band they were. Probably the best short-lived joy of indiepop music... I dare say they were Pam's bestest outfit (well, after the Foxgloves, sorry Mr Trousers). Thank god their singles are not rare like the Black Tambourine ones so buy bye (to quote Maya) everyone, who hasn't yet. Of course, their best song has to be "Do You Know", reason enough for being forever grateful to wee jj of Fantastic Records. . . Erm, how come everyone is posting their views on The Gentle Waves. I thought the single wasn't out yet. Anyway, i'm a bit surprised to hear that they're reminiscent of The Rosehips, I have to say I was expecting a more classy comparison, given that most of the songs use cool instruments like flute and clarinet. Admittedly, I had the Would-Be-Goods in mind but how should I know, since I haven't heard the GW single yet (i can't wait). Besides, Jessica's voice is totally different (and far better, mind you). Oh well, I can't help contradicting myself all the time. I have best to send this now. At last i'm going out, after a week of acute pharyngitis. Which probably just is a more formal term for sore throat. Anyhow it was really terrible. Take care everyone. John x ps (1): on the turntable right now: Scarlet's Well - Strange Letters LP (Bid is back - hooray!) ps (2): Thank you Honey! (you know what for) +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The coolest site for free home pages, email, chat, e-cards, movie info.. | | http://www.goplay.com - it's time to Go Play! | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Fri Mar 19 23:30:41 1999 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 23:30:41 GMT Subject: Sinister: Fin Message-ID: <36f2d605.18596293@post.demon.co.uk> Dear List It's time for me to leave you. we've grown apart I feel. I'll miss a few of you (you know who you are, and you know where to find me) , but I have people to see, bands and films to watch, books to read. I don't really want to talk about Robbie Williams or hear racing tips either. Thanks for the good times, Love Tag xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jj at xxx.com Fri Mar 19 23:29:43 1999 From: jj at xxx.com (jj) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 18:29:43 -0500 Subject: Sinister: converts Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990319182943.009a5d40@mail.si.umich.edu> wow, i can't believe it! i just got off the phone with my mom, and what did i hear in the background but the sweet strains of "get me away from here"!! we drove to chicago together a week or so ago and i of course played b&s on the way and she liked it. so when she got home to SF, she went straight to amoeba and bought IYFS and the "nova bossa" bossa nova comp that i love so much. and has been listening to them non-stop. yay mom :) just had to share that. xojj * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * fantastic po box 4492 ann arbor mi 48106 usa http://www.fantasticpop.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mike at xxx.uk Sat Mar 20 01:00:49 1999 From: mike at xxx.uk (Mike Smith) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 01:00:49 -0000 Subject: Sinister: london calling Message-ID: <000601be726d$363e3200$c954883e@default> Sounds to me like a copywriter with impressive taste - has anybody else ever wondered how to spread the message via subversive means? You never know, somebody, somewhere with a rack chocka with Afghan Whigs and Polly might have been teased to complete the collection with a bit of B&S. Personally I want to present top of the pops and continue slagging off the unworthies til our lads and lasses make it to the big(ish) time... PS (TBWTAS was chosen over IYFS because it was a far superior album - ooh! controversy!) -----Original Message----- From: Marie Elia To: sinister at Majordomo.net Date: 19 March 1999 15:37 Subject: Sinister: london calling >dear shinishter... > >yes, as kimmy mentioned: >i saw a picture of IYFS in JANE magazine i forget what for. why was >i reading that magazine? (sorry if you like, but i'd define it as a >TEEN for those who are not teen. would you call that accurate?) my >darling friend [marie] *somehow* received it in her mailslot one >day.... > >it was actually an advertisement for stereos or something, but there >was a stack of cds, including IYFS, and also sonic youth, the eels, >afghan whigs, pj harvey, and other assorted sundry albums... weird. >the funny thing is, if it had been TBWTAS, it might have made sense, >since that is new... hmmm... ah, but what kimmy failed to mention, >although it was *implied*, is that i actually pay the good people at >JANE my hard earned cash to send me their 120page piece of glossy >fluff. what can i say? i take secret pleasure in running up to my >room with a good fashion magazine and a box of cookies and poring >over pics of models i'll never look like wearing clothes that would >never fit me... a little sadistic, i know. but kimmy, what do you >call wearing pink velvet platform shoes? girly, definitely. >sadistic? quite possibly... well, if that's yr cup of tea... >(kisskiss!) > >okay kids -- tomorrow, it's off to london for me! so far my only >definite plans are the looper show on wednesday. otherwise it's three >of us girls wandering about the streets... > > > >take care! >xo, >marie > > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ > +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From asbuch at xxx.edu Sat Mar 20 02:37:20 1999 From: asbuch at xxx.edu (Heather Marie Propes) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 20:37:20 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: converts In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990319182943.009a5d40@mail.si.umich.edu> Message-ID: That is very cool, JJ. Sounds like you have an open-minded mom (of course she's from California). My mom's favorites are Robert Johnson, Stevie Ray Vaughan and the Talking Heads, not bad for a mom, but I got her Serge Gainsbourg for Christmas and she liked it a lot. I'm enjoying Combustible Edison quite a bit right now. I think they're better at what they do than the Cardigans, who seem to be doing a similar thing. Ciao, http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop Heather Marie Propes asbuch at midway.uchicago.edu On Fri, 19 Mar 1999, jj wrote: > wow, i can't believe it! i just got off the phone with my mom, and > what did i hear in the background but the sweet strains of "get me > away from here"!! we drove to chicago together a week or so ago > and i of course played b&s on the way and she liked it. so when she > got home to SF, she went straight to amoeba and bought IYFS and > the "nova bossa" bossa nova comp that i love so much. and has been > listening to them non-stop. yay mom :) > > just had to share that. > xojj > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > fantastic po box 4492 ann arbor mi 48106 usa > http://www.fantasticpop.com > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ > +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Sat Mar 20 11:03:15 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 12:03:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: 10 Roddington Hull Place Message-ID: <01be72c1$4182d360$LocalHost@itjfvkli> I didn't say students were dull or full of misplaced arrogance, I was just wondering aloud, that's all. It wasn't like that in borstal, I can tell you. In borstal, we chose the "daddy" based on his fighting ability and his potting shed aplomb, not whether he'd done any bloody revision or not. I was always there or thereabouts. Some people have written in claiming that they can't read books. That's probably because the books they are trying to read aren't about Ed Wood. I'm reading one, and I think I'm going to be able to finish it sooner or later. It's got me in its spell, I'm transfixed. I might write an essay about it and give it to my tutor, Captain Fellatio Hornblower. Terrible news. Not only has Emu gone to the great Parkinson Show in the sky, but I have learnt that the man who wrote "How Much Is That Doggie In The Window" took his own life. What a shame he didn't live long enough to see the influence his music has had on The Genteel Waifs' fantastic new album, out now on Tiger Records. It was great to read that Isobel isn't as soft as she might appear. People tend to judge her on her tiger ears bonnet and school uniform, but there's much more to her than that. I got that "Doggie" information from The Roulette Records Story, which has plenty on it to please all you kite-flying fanatics. I was expecting 3 CDs of non-stop Northern stompers, but I only got one or two of those (songs, not CDs), plus loads and loads of novelty pop, such as "Santa Bring Me Ringo" and "Doodle Doodle Doo". On a brighter note, it does contain "English Country Garden", so I can learn the proper words now, instead of "how many times have you had it off in an English country garden? I've done it twice and I think it's very nice in an English country garden", which might be a more appropriate version for the Big Red Bus. Duke wrote: >And you ask Meat Wholash???? get an education, kids! To which McRagtag replied most informatively. I've seen Meat Wholash. They weren't very good, and the bird from the Shoppies was playing the drums or something and then sang a bit. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Duke himself was there. Of course, only the real hardcore were present, because we all had coursework to hand in to our tutors. I think there's a Meat Wholash track on one of those Creation compilation LPs, but I have no memory of it, so I suspect Professor Tune was on a sabbatical. But please keep on educating us, Duke. First Keith's "superb fretwork" University of Rock, then Tim's "lifetime commitment" Polytechnic of Pop, and now Duke's Boarding School of Obscure Indie. What a well-educated bunch we are! I bet the kids on the Steps list get all their knowledge from the backs of bubblegum cards. I bet they haven't got tutors. Or matrons. Sister Disco "I'm constantly on the pull cos I think with my prick, and I'm too fucking selfish to have any concept of loyalty". - Captain Fellatio Hornblower +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From karastar at xxx.com Sat Mar 20 11:56:19 1999 From: karastar at xxx.com (Kara Baer) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 03:56:19 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Amphetameanies Show 19/3 Message-ID: Dear Sinister confessional list, Last night I was reminded of how much I like ska music. I've never really cared for ska albums, simply because they seem to sound a bit flat. They lose the energy and fun of the live show. The Amphetameanies did not disapoint. The audience consisted an equal mix of dour indie kids and skankers. I did see a wee B&S herd up near the front consisting of Stu M (looking dapper in a dress shirt and tie), Isobel, and Stevie. I think Stu M thinks I'm following him around. I'm really not. No, really! He does recognize me at this point, though. (I think that would make a great song title for my album.. "Kara: the album" track 1-> Belle & Sebastian think I'm following them around but I'm really not.) The opening band was pretty rockin'. Not in a bad way, in a mediocre way..complete with musically masturbatory guitar solos, whole verses consisting of "Na na na na na..na na na", and their last song sounded just too much like the theme from Rocky. They were increadably earnest. I really just don't go for "Na na na's." Not everything has to have vocals slapped on top of it. The Amphetameanies came on about 11 to a vastly appreciative audience. Some people were ready to skank even before they started playing. They did a mix of instrumentals and songs with vocals by their Debbie Harry look-a-like singer and boy singer. Mick looked very fetching in his checked trousers. He and the trombone-girl had some problems with this green light which was shining directly in their faces. After some conferring between songs, shouting at Jim the light guy, and gesturing by the B&S crowd, they finally managed to turn the light around towards the audience. Crisis averted. The horn section was very together; they sounded good. As I played trombone in a reggae band, I know how difficult it can be to get the horns sounding decent. I also enjoyed seeing Mick expand his musical talents on such instruments as the cowbell. Love Kara "Cordelia: 'Is Mr. I'm so great I don't have to show up for my date or even call going to be there?' Oz: 'I think he's just going by Devon now.' " --Incan Mummy Girl, BtVS *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Sat Mar 20 15:49:28 1999 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Fluffy Sarah) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 15:49:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Straw Under Baby In-Reply-To: <36F0E748.9C6B7C65@mcmail.com> References: <36F0E748.9C6B7C65@mcmail.com> Message-ID: Hello! Tags left Sinister? What will the world come to? >fluffy sarah, what the hell is going on in preston that you >haven't been telling us? Avenham park. I feel sorry for all you Sinister people who live in dead end places like London, and Glasgow, and Edinburgh, missing out on the most beautiful bit of parkland ever to be found in the middle of urbanisation, which of course is AVENHAM PARK. It's full of caves, and bushes, and secret paths and walkways, and bandstands, and the most MAJESTIC showbiz steps in the world. And when you reach the bottom of it, you reach the splendour of the rushing Ribble. (river.) Faboo. And then on your way out you pass the lovely snooty terrace houses except one has an orange door, which I consider blasphemy. And then you have Winkley Square, and THEN you have the Harris Library/museum, and THEN you have the market. Wow. Preston rocks. Lets have a North West Sinister Picnic. In Preston. Or anywhere, I don't mind. But Preston would be dead good...and theres not been a north west - or indeed NORTHERN picnic or IN FACT anything really happenin' has there... we should Make Something Happen. Have you noticed when you put stuff in capitals it seems heady rhetoric! Good Stuff. Warrender, please do tell all about 'Club International's Insult Everyone A Lot night please, I can't go, but if you go you know what insult to use on behalf of me... if you don't then I have failed to make a mark on anyones life. *sniffs* My favourite new bands of today are Grimbleweed and the Vegetations (YOU FILL ME WITH INERTIA), Bridget St John ("female Kevin Ayers" apparently?!), and Homer. Who are Robyn Hitchcocks backing band these days. They wrote the jolliest song EVER in the history of the entire world about bleak depression and the futility of life. Smashing. You can TAKE your glo-worms.. Ah! I heard the Original Twee Anthem GIRL AT THE BUS STOP (why won't she get the number nine) by the BMX Bandits today and it made me laugh and it reminded me of my friend who's name I will not mention, who was in love with The Girl With Hair and Teeth from his bus...aaww sweet. But sadly pathetic. He's now going out with a girl with big boobies which just goes to show not that much really. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Sarah +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tunnock at xxx.au Sat Mar 20 18:58:30 1999 From: tunnock at xxx.au (chris) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 04:58:30 +1000 Subject: Sinister: Let us welcome a new member... Message-ID: <36F3EFD5.33C4@alphalink.com.au> I would like to take this opportunity to welcome a new member to the list, one Craig Lee Thompson . Craig is a relatively new fan, and after much lauding of this list on my part, he was inspired to join... The amusing part is although so instructed by yours truly, he neglected to read the rules and FAQ's, sending a post (since he felt compelled to reply to a Smog/Tindersticks discussion) and was scourned by the big eye in the sky, the sinister list trustee! I had warned him of the unofficial one week waiting period, which without my knowledge had become the official three week nursery peroid, and alas his post never reached our eyes... so it is not just a warning! His reply from the list trustee mentioned he would had to wait the three week nursery period and Craig believed this was an extra penance (not the official universal rule) and quickly unsubscribed under his old address and resubscribed under his new Sparklehorse inspired hotmail address. Is it masochistic to find humour in others suffering? Is it only I who finds this scenario amusing? You still have 15 days to wait Crackers!!! Bye Chris +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lyricjunkie at xxx.com Sun Mar 21 15:36:14 1999 From: lyricjunkie at xxx.com (headrush city) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 07:36:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister:Spiff's hyper-freem drive malfunctions! Message-ID: <19990321153614.27723.rocketmail@web309.yahoomail.com> Hello pop pickers. When is it that birthdays stop becoming something you eagerly look forward to, your little heart bursting with the anticipation of presents and a party at four in the afternoon, and instead turn into a day met with the sinking feeling of time passing? It'll be my ninteenth very soon, and no offence to anyone over 19, but it makes me feel o-l-d. It's probably due to the realisation that I've only got one year of being a teenager left. Once you hit 20, do you get all nostalgic for days spent bunking off in the park, or are you more glad to be rid of the out-of-control hormones and the pretensiousness? The music of b&s could only have been made by people young at least in spirit , by which I mean you can't create melodies like theirs if you feel tired and old. Love and 60's tunes, Natasha xx _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Sun Mar 21 16:57:18 1999 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgirl) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 08:57:18 PST Subject: Sinister:Spiff's hyper-freem drive malfunctions! Message-ID: <19990321165718.1542.qmail@hotmail.com> Well I recently turned 19 and I'm delighted to get older. I mean why do you have to feel bad about getting older it's just a fact of life and I must say it feels great. I hvae overcome that speciall feeling about birthday so what I turn one year older but I doesn't feel anything different from the day before, maybe it does later on. I dunno.. b&s music is great since it siutes both yound and old. My grandmother for instance thinks Belle is a very pleasant group:) hugs all becka # go and have a peek at my page it's constantly developing, http://www.angelfire.com/me/Mizzy # Hello pop pickers. When is it that birthdays stop becoming something you eagerly look forward to, your little heart bursting with the anticipation of presents and a party at four in the afternoon, and instead turn into a day met with the sinking feeling of time passing? It'll be my ninteenth very soon, and no offence to anyone over 19, but it makes me feel o-l-d. It's probably due to the realisation that I've only got one year of being a teenager left. Once you hit 20, do you get all nostalgic for days spent bunking off in the park, or are you more glad to be rid of the out-of-control hormones and the pretensiousness? The music of b&s could only have been made by people young at least in spirit , by which I mean you can't create melodies like theirs if you feel tired and old. Love and 60's tunes, Natasha xx Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Sun Mar 21 18:14:57 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 13:14:57 EST Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister: Plummeting into the canyon of age Message-ID: well. I've been most unnerved by my upcoming 20th birthday (since we are discussing the age topic) I've been trying to rationalize all the time spent being unproductive and bored for the past... nine years. I mean, really, I wouldn't mind so much if i'd done nothing of note but been entertained and filled the lives of others with happiness. Rather than improve the world I've just sort of puttered around and not really made a big impression on anyone other than my parents. and the impression I made on my parents has been "I never knew kids were this much trouble" Regardless, I don't plan to Make Dramatic Changes. that would require effort. Instead I take my inspiration for the next few months from Belle and Sebastian. I'm going to sleep the clock around, for I haven't a job to spend time working on. Instead I'll make music, write and draw and do all the nice things that I would like to have done earlier but was too busy doing nothing to do. I plan to read lots of classic books. I'm going to spend my summer (and spring) wasting. The time will pass so pleasantly.... ooh, i hope this little ramble hasn't made you all too irate. It's just that it's a rainy lazy sunday afternoon, and I thought I'd empty the contents of my feeble brain into a letter for my fellow sinisterines. affection dave* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From troyh at xxx.com Sun Mar 21 20:49:54 1999 From: troyh at xxx.com (Troy Hakala (Exchange)) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 12:49:54 -0800 Subject: Sinister: London Apr 2-6 Message-ID: I'll be in London April 2 through the 6th. I'm not up on the latest B&S news/show dates. Any B&S events going on during that time? Thanks! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sun Mar 21 21:14:05 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 13:14:05 PST Subject: Sinister: the heavenly limbs Message-ID: <19990321211406.12182.qmail@hotmail.com> belle and sebastian were all over this months select...they seem to put them in EVERY month,anyways, it was a little irriating,some of the girly girls they interview outside the brit awards,it always Aimee and Cindie and Kimmie and Stacie think the awards belong to the teenagers,so it should be you know,those other bands and not belle and sebastian, oh god,that`s not excuse,most teenage girls just don`t have good taste,i never went through that new kids thing...i jsut pretended (to fit in) i`m not trying to be snobby or anything like that..but grrr,why can`t the newspapers or magazines ever interview me? i would say some intelligent comments. ...So Stuart has a brother?there`s a Ronnie David! how cute! is he widdle? i saw the Looper album..but 35 dollars! That would be Karn on the cover?..she`s very pretty. Why is stuart david wearing tuques now..thats a rapper style or quebec cow farmer look (depending on the region) bye bye tag, sniff,i will miss your jokes,i seriously will. i bought the hefner album in montreal,just on a chance,the only thing i`d heard about them t hat really stuck in my head was peter miller saying the lead singer looked like austin powers..and wow i love it! that eloping song gives me shivers. it`s been so long i`ve bought an album someone recommended that i really liked thoroughly.I love that Darren, he`s choir-boy yet saucy.I must know more.Is Hefner scottish? is everything else good by them? a strange nut,for sure,who is this Captain Hornblower. bye, genevieve Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnk at xxx.gr Mon Mar 22 00:15:57 1999 From: johnk at xxx.gr (John Koliopanos) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 02:15:57 +0200 Subject: Sinister: THIS IS HAPPENING WITH YOUR PERMISSION Message-ID: <36F58BBC.39E86B15@flash.gr> I just wanted to quote this bit from the Shinkansen newsletter. For no particular reason actually, I just thought it might be basis for creative debate. Or frenzy. I love both . . . John x THIS IS HAPPENING WITH YOUR PERMISSION I just wanted to quote this bit from the Jeepster newsletter: ... Weathershow will be released as an extremely limited 2000 copies only 7"... our mail-order shop will be taking advance orders, but to make it fair it will be on a first-come-first-served basis, and for this reason we're only taking credit-card orders and will not be guaranteeing that anyone will get a copy. UK price (including VAT and postage), £2.75 plus postage plus VAT = £4.41... If only all labels treated their fans so well. Oh, I know this is nothing to do with me, it just... ANNOYS me, because I suspect loads of you will be queueing up at Rough Trade on Monday morning to get one of their limited allocation, when what you should be doing is writing to Jeepster to ask why exactly a record for which there is obviously a huge demand is being limited to so few copies, or writing to the band to ask them WHY THEY ALLOW IT. Basically, at the risk of sounding like a fanzine from 10 years ago - ah yes, those rosy-tinged pre-Blair days when we actually believed politics could truly mean something, and everyone agreed that the 12" single was the wickedest embodiment of Capitalist evil ever devised - DEMAND MORE. Or at least those of you who don't have a credit-card and don't live in a town with a decent record shop could try demanding more. This is NOT, to misquote Huggy Bear, the sound of a revolution. And I want it to be. I want everything to be. This isn't a dig at B&S especially... I'm just using them because it's such a blatant example of bands/labels abusing their fanbase in order to further careers, and because I know that lots of people reading this will also be logging into the B&S/Jeepster websites. Obviously labels have been hyping bands by using limited-editions to contrive a buzz and engineer myth and mystique for ages - yes, even before Steve Lamacq put out the first Elastica single on Deceptive as a 1000 pressing and then played it to death on his show (whoops, there goes our Radio 1 airplay...) - I've just always lived in this weird dreamland where decent bands who believe in Art and Politics rather than Fame and Fortune wouldn't actually ALLOW it. The inflated price and credit-card stuff is just the icing on the cake, and made me smile. (And - before I get accused of hypocrisy - records being allowed to sell-out once the initial demand has faded, or once they're incredibly old, is obviously completely different from new records being deleted while demand is still high - effectively even before release.) That said... I do sometimes find myself questioning the cheery masochism of most B&S fans... I mean, obviously Sarah Records' success was achieved entirely by us targeting the weird and inadequate (no offence), and making them believe they had something to live for, even if it was only a new Boyracer badge or Field Mice poster, so I should be used to it, but B&S fans seem to take it to scary new heights... and I was musing on this the other day when it suddenly dawned on me that B&S aren't a pop-group at all, but a vast ANTHROPOLOGICAL EXPERIMENT, an investigation into human suffering. It goes something like this: Level 1: perform a concert at the Union Chapel, making your fans sit on hard wooden pews for 20 minutes between numbers while you to decide which song to play next. Rather than send you hate-mail explaining the concept of a set-list, however, they simply demand an encore, and more pain. Therefore, increase the suffering to Level 2... Level 2: come on late at the Shepherd's Bush Empire and then play so incredibly quietly that no-one can hear you. Rather than demanding their money back, however, your fans merely tell the few hecklers present to shush, because they're trying to work out whether it's Stuart or Isobel who's singing. So, ratch up the suffering another notch, to Level 3... Level 3: cancel your Washington gig at short notice due to one band member (out of, um, 37) being poorly. However; rather than being confronted by irate fans screaming But I've flown here specially all the way from Minneapolis!!!, you just get sent cakes with Get well soon Isobel written in pink icing and letters telling you how brave your decision was. So, in desperation, you push the suffering up into almost unbearable realms... Level 4... surely they have to break soon??? Level 4: tell all your fans to assemble on the dullest, most desolate stretch of beach Britain has to offer on a cold weekend in April, with only the strange distant glow of Dungeness nuclear power-station to warm them... Suddenly... it all falls into place, doesn't it??? Even now, Stuart Murdoch is dusting off his clipboard and readying himself to take up position behind a tree - sorry, the tree - to note down how many will comply before he reports back to the Jeepster labs... Camber's a weird and scary place, you know, even without Sleater-Kinney wailing at you. If I were you, I'd sneak off and spend the afternoon in Rye, which has some nice little tea-shops, or walk along the coast to Dungeness to have a look at the power-station and Derek Jarman's cottage and garden (as in the film). Actually, the Romney, Hythe & Dymchurch railway should be running by then, too, I think, after its winter break, so you can go on that. It's got to be better than watching Mercury Rev do a 20 minute prog-rock version of the theme to Hi-de-hi, surely??? Ah, I feel better now. And not a word about The Brits! (But, please, no more nonsense about not having anything to do with the music-industry and songs about not having dinner with Seymour Stein, and getting loads of press & publicity on the back of refusing to do loads of press & publicity, and not wanting your photos taken unless it's Isobel). And please please please note that none of the above has anything to do with the music. Just because the first two Orchids albums are ten times better than bloody Tigermilk doesn't mean we should forever be harking back to a past that nobody remembers anyway. (Actually, that said, we've recently started getting lots of people asking about The Orchids, wanting to know what they're up to these days... to which I can only snort and say, in the words of Joni Mitchell, oh don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone... they pave paradise and put up a parking-lot. Sigh. Oh, the answer is "not much", by the way... two of them got married... not to each other... and the rest... don't know... I heard a rumour that Chris and James had concreted over a small area just off Sauchiehall Street and were now running it as an NCP franchise, but that could just be bar talk.) Leave me alone, I've got a cold. Ken Livingstone for mayor. Of everywhere. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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If you don't it will >>>>become the opposite >>>> >>>>______________________________________________________ >>>>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >>>> >>>>------=_NextPart_000_004B_01BE6993.28794DE0-- >>>> >>>>--------- End Forwarded Message --------- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>__________________________________________________________________ >>>>Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>______________________________________________________ >>>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> >>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> >> > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pamelab at xxx.com Mon Mar 22 11:58:15 1999 From: pamelab at xxx.com (pamela berry) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 11:58:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: this is happening with the betsey trotwood's permission Message-ID: <36F63057.420857B6@mcmail.com> morning all, apologies for posting about a london-based event to those that don't give a dang, if you're not going to be in town april 22, that's the thursday night before bowlie, delete this message at will... there was trousers talk, as there often is round these parts ha cha cha, of setting up a show at the poetry cafe on that thursday since so many people will be in town just hankering for a place to relax and listen to some smooth sounds and meet up with friends and such, but the poetry cafe has got the absolute cheek to have a poetry event already scheduled for that night! fucking poetry, always rearing its head and stomping on my buzz. so we've put together a thursday night gathering at a pub somewhere else, with live music and live reading and a live bartender, three great tastes that taste great together. hope some of you can make it! here are the details: thursday, april 22, 7:30pm upstairs at the betsey trotwood pub 56 farringdon road, farringdon tube £3 only to witness and hear the now! sounds of: Harvey Williams Piezoelectric Unit featuring the Duke of Harringay Jim Shepherd no extra charge to witness and hear the wow! sounds of trousers and joe warming up the crowd and the p.a. early on with a couple of special secret covers, as well as the how? sounds of timmylou hopkins and myself attempting the same just before that. the order I've listed those three up there has no bearing at all on the order they're playing, which is up to them and hasn't really been decided yet. so get there early and don't miss out on anything! what's in store for the evening? well, harvey's got a new record out in april, and my money's on him playing some of his new lovely tunes. the duke will have, among other things, some reading going on for us from the good book. speaking of which, anybody who's been hankering for their very own copy of Young and Foolish, bring your allowance, as there will be copies in the house! how excited am I that jim shepherd, he being the genius behind the superfine jasmine minks, is playing?! pretty damn excited, it has to be said. I can't wait to see what he's up to these days. if anybody has any questions about how to get to the betsey trotwood or thinks his or her life would be richer if they had a jasmine minks tape or something so they know why I'm so crazy thrilled about it all, feel free to drop me a line off the list. and if you do a fanzine or have a record or anything, please do bring your stuff and walk around trying to get rid of it. ten years ago people used to come up to me at shows asking if I'd buy a fanzine or their records all the time, and it was great because I'm a soft touch, and not one to hover and be in the way long enough to suss out what I need at a table full of stuff. how come nobody on this list talks about the visitors? tim hopkins would have you believe that his recording history is limited to a single track on a sha-la-la flexi but I have it on great authority that matinee records out of washington, dc has a visitors seven inch or two slated for release. you *can* take your glo-worms of yesteryear, I'll have another order of the visitors, please. and a double order of mashed potatoes. how come nobody on this list talks about mashed potatoes? I'm off now to go work on my permission letter to ask the powers that be if, as it has been rumored, I'm allowed to actually leave the camber sands festival during the bands I don't fancy and go do something else off-base! I never realized I could do that before and now I feel all empowered! well I will feel empowered if the band lets me, I mean. maybe my request for camp leave will have more sway if I bake someone special a cake with a clipboard done in pink icing and those purty silver balls on top? oh I do love to bake, almost as much as I love to be generalized about as a fan, doesn't matter to me if it's the music press or an indie label head. ah, best to leave it, what's the point of getting all cranky about other cranky people when there's chocolate and beer in the fridge and club 8 to be listening to today instead? hope I see some of you at the show! xopam +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From travelling_light at xxx.com Mon Mar 22 12:46:38 1999 From: travelling_light at xxx.com (Kin Woo) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 04:46:38 PST Subject: Sinister: Black Box Recorder gig! (NON B&S) Message-ID: <19990322124639.28198.qmail@hotmail.com> Could any listee who is going to the Black Box Recorder gig at the Highbury Garage on March 24 please bootleg it for me??? I'd give my right tooth (what an odd saying!) to hear it. "England Made Me" was my favourite record of last year and was hoping against hope to see 'em when I went to London. I mean they're a side project (though hopefully not a one-off) and they hardly perform and I would just have loved to see 'em. So please any listees who are going, please bootleg it if you can and trade with poor old me-who-has-now-returned-to-boring-old Perth:) Have read the glowing review of their gig the previous month in the NME and I can't believe they played new songs like "Art of Driving" and "English Motorway System"!!! How cool is that? Now I'm even more desperate to hear it:) If you wanna trade, I can tape stuff for you as well- I've got tons of stuff, maybe some you are interested in- I've got tons of rare Tindersticks (all the albums including "Donkeys", all their early vinyl recordings up to 1995), Belly (again, lots of rare stuff), and gazilions others including Sparklehorse, Air, Andrea Parker, Black Box Recorder, Teenage Fanclub, Pulp, Beth Orton Beck, Lush, Garbage, Throwing Muses, One Dove, Dot Allison, Portishead, live B&S, LIVE St Et and so much more! Hope to hear from some of you soon seeya Kin Woo With A Star Upon Your Shoulder Lighting Up The Path As You Walk Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koogydelbbog at xxx.com Mon Mar 22 13:07:03 1999 From: koogydelbbog at xxx.com (andrew dean) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 05:07:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Why does no-one talk about 2 Live Kazoo on this list? Message-ID: <19990322130703.13711.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> or, more to the point, why does no-one talk about Belle and Sebastian on this list? (which will probably get me attacked once again by assorted scousers to who i can only say: 'hey, hey, calm down...') talking of belle and sebastian, there were several articles in the press this weekend, largely reviews of the two off shoot albums. the Observer compared the two and came out in favour of the Gentle Waves album (which bodes really well given how good the looper one was). apparently the Gentle Waves one cost 3000 or so pounds (not quite enough according to the Observer) and the Looper one cost about 12 (the price of one DAT!). i did, of course, entirely forget to bring the papers in today so i could transcribe them for you all but i'll try and remember tomorrow. (oh, the other articles being a mini Isobel feature in NME last wednesday and a review of the Looper rough trade shop thing. there were also pieces in this month's Face which i will have to buy sometime for double page spread of the new lego star wars minifigs...) b&s cds also feature in the current virgin sale btw - i saw IYFS for a tenner over the weekend. andy who's cave is NOT hairy. so shut it. == andrew dean (koogydelbbog at yahoo.com) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From M223CMellan at xxx.uk Mon Mar 22 11:39:41 1999 From: M223CMellan at xxx.uk (M223CMellan) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 11:39:41 -0000 Subject: Sinister: LEAVING Message-ID: <11431054607657@holyrood.gla.sch.uk> U SUCK i'n doing a tag i'm leaving. it's been bad, but yer all fat and ugly. no one said thank-u for the big article - i feel angry, and i'm going to rip crap out of someone unless they apologise. now. ha ha ha -only kidding. baby chris "CRYSTALBALLS" - the original and best +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Mon Mar 22 14:50:13 1999 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 14:50:13 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: and they lived happily ever after... discuss. Message-ID: an old cynic wrote: ********** The only reason students tell 1000 people they dont know, what they are doing is because they want to sound intellegent. By saying, "I've just finnished a 1000000 word essay on the political theories behind the writing the film, bambi. And i've got another one to write by lunchtime." we, the reader are supposed to think, "wow I could never do that, they must be a genius." ********** oh god, i don't believe it. someone is spying on me. sinister by name... my essay actually is on (tragic though it may seem) fairy tales and politics. yesterday i watched disney's snow white (not bambi, but close) and TOOK NOTES. now, this is clearly disturbing and unhealthy, but when it comes down to it all you people moaning are clearly just jealous that you don't have it as easy, non? quote of the week, from sir ian mckellan about james whale: "he had a wonderful life. as he said in his suicide note." luv archel ps: anne of green gables - consensus? ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ***** do something pretty while you can don't be afraid skating a pirouette on ice is cool - belle and sebastian -------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From belleandsebastian at xxx.com Mon Mar 22 17:06:05 1999 From: belleandsebastian at xxx.com (Karen David) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 99 17:06:05 UT Subject: Sinister: Camber Sands, some tickets left Message-ID: Hi, I was just wondering if anyone might need tickets for Camber Sands, because Stevie at Nice'n'Sleazys in Glasgow has a bit of a surplus just now. You can give him a buzz on 0141 333 9637. Sincerely S Murdoch +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Mar 22 17:32:06 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 18:32:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Six Million Dollar Indie Kid Message-ID: <01be7489$e816c320$LocalHost@itjfvkli> I'm glad McRagtag's gone. Good riddance, that's what I say. He was stealing all my birds! I think the guys at Shinkansen (?) are just a teensy weensy bit jealous of all the shagging that's going to be going on at Camber Sands. The only Sarah Records product I own is a single with a postacrd in it. Not just any postcard, mind, but the bottom right-hand corner of a big picture made from four postcards - which means you have to buy three more singles to look at the whole picture! It was of a wailway bwidge or something. If that's not HIGH PRESSURE marketing, I'll eat my hat. The reason nobody talks about THE VISITORS on the list is because I haven't got round to it yet. I have a TAPE of their debut flexi, which rollocks along at a fair old crack. It's full of the PASSION and PAIN of being YOUNG in EIGHTIES EXETER. The choirboy junkie vocalist belts out the harrowing tale of some YOUNG PEOPLE who make the mistake of GETTING MARRIED! Or, in other words, they SELL OUT like big soft tossers. Unlike The Visitors, who split up before it all got stale and pish. If only more performers would do the same. I'm going to see Bob Dylan at a massive hootenanny in a cycling stadium next month. I'm going to shout out loud for all the old classics, such as Froggie Went-a-Wooing and Do the Hucklebuck. Fluffy, is that the park you can see from the train? What a splendid park that is! I bet the lavatories are kept sparkling! We could add rolly-pollys to the usual list of picnic fun activities. I would love to see Duke strut his stuff in that pub, it'll be great. The Good Book, formerly known as "Young and Foolish" has an Amazon UK sales ranking of 65,460!!! Which is one hell of a lot of sales. Unless it means something else. Even more excitingly, readers can supply their own review of the book, to help guide potential customers! I was going to be first, but my brain seized up just at the crucial moment. I am going to do it though, and I think everyone else should do the same thing. And then order it. In the words of the great Bessie Banks....GO NOW! http://www.amazon.co.uk Do a search for "Young and Foolish" and hey presto! The world's your oyster. I ordered a book about Pol Pot, just to see if it works. I'm rather new at this "on-line" shopping, you see. Bit nervous. Want a wee-wee. WANT A WEE-WEE! Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at ph.ed.ac.uk". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Mon Mar 22 19:21:00 1999 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 19:21:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Looper gig Message-ID: <36F6981C.A412C737@jeepster.co.uk> Hi everyone, i went on a long trek up the Tottenham Court Road on Saturday looking for a place for everyone to meet up before the Looper gig on Wednesday and all i found was a bloody Firkin pub. anyhow, if you'd like to meet more sinisterites and other like-minded persons (gee, this sounds like a personal's ad) then head along to: The Flintlock & Firkin pub cnr of University Street + Tottenham Court Road London W1 at around 7.00pm! It's right across the road from The Improv Theatre (also known as the Improv Comedy Club, i couldn't quite make out the sign as there was a great big "computer fair here today!" banner over it all), which is 161 Tott Crt Rd. Closest tube is Warren Street (Northern + Victoria Lines), if you turn right when you come out of the station onto Tott Crt Rd, then it's a block or two down. As mentioned before, DJ Ray Suzuki and ambient experimentalists Cinema are playing support, doors are at 7.30pm and Looper should be onstage about 9.30pm. David + i will be doing the merchandise thing (as per usual, 'cept Looper have exciting record bags and hats too ... oh, and maybe even some "...ray suzuki" 10's if you missed out!) so come and say hello. Hope to see lots of you there! :) cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ ***we are moving on april 1st 1999!*** new postal address is p.o. box 14153, london, sw11 4xu, u.k. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jmurphy at xxx.Edu Mon Mar 22 20:36:14 1999 From: jmurphy at xxx.Edu (Jessica Murphy) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 15:36:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: unsolicited late-monday poem Message-ID: Hello everyone, I used to enjoy the Monday poems, and there hasn't been one in a while (I don't think), so here's an offering from me. Totally unsolicited, but I've had it in my head all day anyway, and hopefully no one will mind my breaking with tradition *too* much. "The Song of Wandering Aengus" - W. B. Yeats I went out to the hazel wood, Because a fire was in my head, And cut and peeled a hazel wand, And hooked a berry to a thread; And when white moths were on the wing, And moth-like stars were flickering out, I dropped the berry in a stream And caught a little silver trout. When I had laid it on the floor I went to blow the fire aflame, But something rustled on the floor, And some one called me by my name: It had become a glimmering girl With apple blossom in her hair Who called me by my name and ran And faded through the brightening air. Though I am old with wandering Through hollow lands and hilly lands, I will find out where she has gone, And kiss her lips and take her hands; And walk among long dappled grass, And pluck till time and times are done The silver apples of the moon, The golden apples of the sun. jessica m xo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jmganser at xxx.edu Mon Mar 22 23:41:39 1999 From: jmganser at xxx.edu (Jennifer Marie Ganser) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 18:41:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: attention dc listies! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ahhh, this is impossibly short notice, but should you find yourself perplexed and without anything to do this evening, I strongly urge you to venture out and see the always charming and fabulously clever Marmoset. their delicious postpunkartschoolengland sound,ala early Wire and the Monochrome Set, will most certainly make you deliriously happy and filled with lovely energy. and most of their super recent songs take inspiration from pet sounds/smile era Beach Boys with elegant pop hooks abound. jeesh, I feel like a complete kook trying to describe them, when they really defy comparision. just, do try and see them if you can. tonite, at the Black Cat. I promise you won't regret it. love, jenny +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Tue Mar 23 00:15:06 1999 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 00:15:06 GMT Subject: Sinister: It used to be all allotments round here Message-ID: <36f6d529.6542720@post.demon.co.uk> Dwarlings, Hahaha - fooled you and you fell for it. I haven't left at all. It was a cunning ruse to get rid of Melonballs. How could I leave you? You course through my veins like heroin, and I can't give that up either. Actually, I was in a mood, and I took it on you and I apologise, I really do. But I am indeed an altered toad. I've had all the stuffing knocked out of me by Mr Matt Haines's letter. I loved that. Especially the bit where he described the people who lovingly bought all his records as weird and inadequate (that was a "joke", right?). If only all labels treated their fans so well. Actually, there were elements of truth in what he said. But why is the Gentle Waves single only coming out in a 2000 pressing? And how come singles cost less in my local record shop? It is a point, you have to admit. As for the B&S being crap live. I saw the Field Mice once, and no, it wasn't political, it was really fucking crap. That's really, really fucking crap. What most amused me about Matt's litle speech was the way he picked out the very worst aspects of Camber Sands and made it out to be a Siberian salt mine. And I never realised there was a nice steam railway nearby, and lovely tea rooms. Ah, the golden age of merrye Englande, when we still had an empire. I went to see a very good film yesterday and so did Warrander John. "Central Station" as recommended by one Peter Miller, before I nicked his birds. It should've won an Oscar, and it nearly made me cry. I want to go to Brazil now It was quite a Brazilian weekend, what with Os Mutantes ruling the roost. I bought that because one of them is wearing a cloak on the front, and I'm all for cloaks, I'm going to wear one to Camber Sands and rush into the tea rooms with comedy fangs screaming "I am the count". That's c-O-u-n-t. I can't go to Pam's high jinx at the Betsy Trotwood, but it's a nice pub and I think you should all go. Cos Pam's parties swing, according to my sources. I hope that didn't offend anyone. It's bedtime. Night night. Love Tag xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From conform at xxx.com Tue Mar 23 00:38:55 1999 From: conform at xxx.com (Seamus Campbell) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 16:38:55 -0800 Subject: Sinister: luna loopers Message-ID: <01FF24001403D011AD7B00A024BC53C53BF39B@mail.deming.com> glo-worm are exceedingly pleasant at times, but that cover of "friday i'm in love" was awful. seamus why does no-one talk about glo-worm on the list? don't people know of their god-like genius? and is anyone else beside themselves at the prospect of the Black Tambourine CD coming out sometime soon on Slumberland records? What do you mean, Slumberwhat and Black tambawho? You never heard 'Throw Aggi Off The Bridge' with it's Meat Whiplash sonic wall of melody? And you ask Meat Wholash???? get an education, kids! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From polystyreneman64 at xxx.com Tue Mar 23 01:35:11 1999 From: polystyreneman64 at xxx.com (Dan McKinney) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 17:35:11 PST Subject: Sinister: life--it's not what i thought it was Message-ID: <19990323013512.7231.qmail@hotmail.com> hello fellas. so much for the first day of spring. it snowed six inches here last night. how depressing. anyway, i am writing the list today for a couple reasons. first, i was privileged enough to get a tape of the black session today. i must say that i really like the version of dirty dream #2....quite fabulous. i also am quite fond of "i don't love anyone," which is the first song that i've heard from tigermilk. hearing it makes me not want to wait another 2 months for the re-release. is matador picking up the release in the states or will it only be available on import via jeepster? i don't know. oh another thing about the black session...i swear the beginning of "sleep the clock around" before the vocals come in sounds exactly like the chorus of "tomorrow" by james. does anyone else find this odd comparison to be true? or am i just going nuts? likely the latter. ok guys, here's the *real* reason i'm posting today. i need your help. see, as i think i said once before, a long long time ago, i am a dj for my college radio station. every week the station does a show called "artists only" where we play 2 hours of a particular band. the first week of may, i was planning on doing a show on blur, but i quickly realized that my blur discography was quite incomplete. today i got a rather bright idea. how about two hours devoted to belle & sebastian? good idea, eh? anyways, i got the idea ok'd by my program director this evening, so i need to get working on putting the show together. and since this show is in the beginning of may, before the tigermilk re-release comes out, here's where i need help. would any of you kind souls out there be willing to send me a tape of tigermilk? also, if there are any other radio sessions other than the french session that some of you may be able to offer me, i would appreciate it soooo very much. and of course, to anyone who is able to help me out, you would be duly recompensed with a tape from me :) so if you are interested in helping out, please contact me at polystyreneman64 at hotmail.com. thanks! oooh another thing. i'm going to london for a couple weeks in july. very exciting. i've never been abroad before so i'm thrilled at the opportunity. perhaps i can meet some of you while i'm there! hmmm time for me to go do work now. god i hate college sometimes. g'bye for now. ~~Dan-O� What's in the CD player?: Teenage Fanclub -- Bandwagonesque In rotation: Madder Rose -- Bring It Down, Hollies -- The Essential Hollies, Looper -- Up a Tree, The Wonder Stuff -- Never Loved Elvis Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aszolnoki at xxx.com Tue Mar 23 09:05:06 1999 From: aszolnoki at xxx.com (Andras Zalan Szolnoki) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 01:05:06 PST Subject: Sinister: An apology. (No more chains. I PROMISE) Message-ID: <19990323090506.10522.qmail@hotmail.com> O.K. , I get the picture. NO MORE STUPID LETTERS! O.K.? I guess I just retire to my place somewhere in the corner The dark one >From where I can see But can't be spotted -if there's one thing that I learned when I was still a child is to take a......(to be alone)- Bye Andras Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "thFrom owner-sinister at Majordomo.net Tue Mar 23 11:00:30 1999 Received: from zebra.esosoft.net (zebra.esosoft.net [207.153.253.162]) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA19078 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 11:00:23 GMT Received: from turtle.esosoft.net (turtle.esosoft.net [192.41.24.194]) by zebra.esosoft.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA29913; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 06:00:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (turtle at localhost) by turtle.esosoft.net (8.8.5) id DAA05040; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 03:59:59 -0700 (MST) Received: by turtle.esosoft.net (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 23 Mar 1999 03:59:58 -0700 Received: (turtle at localhost) by turtle.esosoft.net (8.8.5) id DAA04972; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 03:59:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk [129.215.72.230]) by turtle.esosoft.net (8.8.5) id DAA04928; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 03:59:50 -0700 (MST) Received: (from mitchell at localhost) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA24823 for sinister at majordomo.net; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 10:59:45 GMT Received: from send103.yahoomail.com (send103.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.92]) by turtle.esosoft.net (8.8.5) id DAA25719; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 03:00:32 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <19990323100045.7089.rocketmail at send103.yahoomail.com> Received: from [137.213.252.252] by send103.yahoomail.com; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 02:00:45 PST Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 02:00:45 -0800 (PST) From: andrew dean Subject: Sinister: observer review To: sinister at Majordomo.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sinister at Majordomo.net Reply-To: andrew dean X-Organisation: Happy Bunnies Inc. X-List: Sinister having snatched a brit award from under the noses of B*witched and steps, belle & sebastian continue towards lo-fi world domination with this pair of spin-off solo projects. as with the scottish group's major works, both incline towards the whimsical. bass player stuart david's looper is essentially an excuse for him to ramble about childhood and treehouses over strumalongs and homespun beats. the gentle waves - a dozen songs from singer and multi-instrumentalist isobel, mates and band members - lap more interestingly. her voice may be as thin as a winter reed, but her gentle pastorals come shaded with woodwind and strings, and suggest that, given a decent recording budget, she could produce something more evocative of her loch-side landscapes. neil spencer, the observer, 21 march 1999 couldn't find a copy of The Face when i looked for it this morning so that'll have to wait. andy == andrew dean (koogydelbbog at yahoo.com) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From coool_air at xxx.com Tue Mar 23 11:03:37 1999 From: coool_air at xxx.com (Claire Timmins) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 03:03:37 PST Subject: Sinister: uk traveltime Message-ID: <19990323110337.29165.qmail@hotmail.com> Right lads, I'm going back to my roots (yeah!) next Wednesday. The lucky town being - Birmingham. I have no recollection of this place and no friends there, except a IT whiz who is letting me stay in her hotel and cadge free room service for three days. Suggestions about music and drink would be gratefully appreciated. Im staying in Dudley, which appears to be rather *hip* these days, what with housing the newest pop sensation, '21st century girls', well Cilla likes them. Glad to see Tagster the trickster has remained, there were worrying reports about the end of Roolz, no doubt a huge sigh of relief swept over the gaydiscoloving population this morning. For those interested, do go and see 'El hombre Trajeado' at the 13th note on April 2nd, very good. A small B&S connection but one of them used to be in the amphetameanies (very loose reference, I know). Maybe see youse there, clazster Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sleeka_sounds at xxx.com Tue Mar 23 11:46:00 1999 From: sleeka_sounds at xxx.com (Sleeka Sounds) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 03:46:00 PST Subject: Sinister: Camber Sands, some tickets left Message-ID: <19990323114601.11787.qmail@hotmail.com> ================== Letter 1 Hoy! Did anyone notice how superb Stuart Murdoch's mail was yesterday? Observe as I put on my analyst dressing gown.... >Hi, I was just wondering As we've all been told, Stuart's wondering days are over. If he was just wondering, no he is not a fibber, he's endearing himself to our brains by suggesting he is not boring. He's a celibate bip-bopper. That'll do pig, my place at eight with the Motorhead video. >if anyone might need tickets for Camber Sands, >because Stevie at Nice'n'Sleazys in Glasgow has a bit of a surplus >just now. Celebrity namedropping of sorts. Monsieur Murdoch is spoiling us by naming Glasgow famous man Stevie Dreads, as namechecked on the back of the album beside some poxy geordie called paul mitchell. Stevie Dreads is famous for having big dreadlocks, working in Sleazies, and being everywhere you go. Fantastic work Stuart, whooops there goes another! >You can give him a buzz on Ah, you see the ever saucy Murdoch mind is reaching down to new crotch level depths with that one. Is he gay? Is he straight? Is he suggesting a group encounter? I don't know but I like it. Buzzzzzzz! Buzzzzz! Buzzzzz! >0141 333 9637. Just like every phone number in hollywood has 555 in it, every phone number in Glasgow has 333 in it. Fact. So by referring to this, the Sherlock Murdoch brings to mind the work of Bill Forsyth, as a throwaway. let us rock. >Sincerely >S Murdoch This is a fly reference to "Famous Blue Raincoat" by Leonard Cohen, which ends "Sincerely L Cohen". Stuart has a blue coat as seen on the Melody Maker Cover, but I'm not sure if it's waterproof. There you have it, so much in so few words. God Bless the mind of the Murdoch, it is as sharp and pointy as a jungle spear. ================== Letter 2 Amphetameanies were tops on Friday. Curry was good on Saturday. Sunday is a day of rest Monday I had off. Went to see dEUS, a band whose work I'm not terribly familiar with. The old wacky stuff was great, the new cock rock stuff was cock. As Harry said, there is no such thing as rocking too much, but there is present danger in the wrong kind of rock. Yours, Mistopher Christopher Leonard PS. The Duke Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Arigreen23 at xxx.com Tue Mar 23 14:03:22 1999 From: Arigreen23 at xxx.com (Arigreen23 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 09:03:22 EST Subject: Sinister: thoughts on looper Message-ID: whoohoo I really like it! i am in love with "quiet and small" very much. I think it's one of the most beautiful, nicest songs I've ever heard actually. and when I played it for my folks my mom said "wow a glockenspiel!" so there you go. it's all really amazing, that's pretty much all I can say. I still don't get "Burning Flies" though. i could be missing something. that is not a nice song. not that all songs have to be nice. ::sigh::. ari +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Tue Mar 23 14:44:09 1999 From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (Michael Jones) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 06:44:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Ernie was the talented one - discuss Message-ID: <19990323144409.9817.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com> Afternoon, fiends... Someone wrote a while back that physicists generally struggled to finish reading anything that wasn't to do with sigma to the doodah over pi times Eigen-howsyourfather. Who was that ? Oh, let's call them Belinda. Well, Belinda, I spent five years pretending to know all about Newton and that German fella with the white beard and thesedays I can scarcely start a book, much less finish one. I'm building quite an impressive library of untouched paperbacks I can tell you - Atwood, Kennedy, Chekhov, Carter. I'm hoping to broaden my horizons a little this summer - lazy August days lounging just feet away from still-cellophaned volume of Proust, or perhaps a sun-dappled evening in a beer garden with a slim Derrida text poking out of my pocket - Waterstones receipt still inside its unsullied pages. I did my best to get to the bottom of "Larry Holmes", the short (ha ! That's a joke - I had to use the bloody scroll bar) story on the Genghis Khans website, but started to compulsively skim a paragraph in. This is no reflection of the quality of Ms Campbell's writing, btw - as I pointed out earlier to Belinda, it's me. I can't hack it. Liked the bit about the streaky carpark and the grandma into metallurgy, though. Seamus 'hospital food' Campbell had this to say: >glo-worm are exceedingly pleasant at times, but that cover of "friday i'm >in love" was awful. Ah, but isn't all about context ? And in the context of "271 DC Bands Interpret The Cure", it was a gobful of sugary goodness on a broad plate of lukewarm gruel. Besides, I hear the singer's living with a right hardcase. So watch it, pal. Right - I'm off to take my brain to another dimension. Pay close attention. Mike. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Tue Mar 23 15:25:11 1999 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (Kerry Lannert) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 10:25:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: ATN writers poll Message-ID: i don't know if anybody's posted this, but TBWTAS made it to number 19 out on the addicted to noise writers poll, out of the top 100 albums of the year. the article and results and stuff are here: http://www.addict.com/issues/5.03/html/hifi/Cover_Story/Writers_Poll/ -kerry http://hamp.hampshire.edu/~kwl96 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Tue Mar 23 15:24:05 1999 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 15:24:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: more news ... sorry :) Message-ID: <36F7B215.8E3F7158@jeepster.co.uk> more bits i sent to the jeepster news list yesterday that may be of some interest to some of you ... ************************************************************************ * the gentle waves * alrighty, now continuing on with the subject of gigs, we've had a lot of people ask us about the forthcoming Gentle Waves dates ... well, seeing as everyone wants to know which other B&S members will be playing with Isobel, we thought we'd let you know that Stuart Murdoch, Stevie Jackson, Chris Geddes, Mick Cooke and Richard Colburn will all appear onstage too! The gigs are selling quite quickly, so if you'd like to spend your Easter weekend in the company of Isobel and pals playing some beautiful fragile songs, then here's the details again: Friday 2nd April - Leeds City Varieties Theatre, Swan Street Saturday 3rd April - Cardiff Coal Exchange, The Exchange Buildings, Mount Street Square Sunday 4th April - London Improv Theatre, 161 Tottenham Court Road Saturday 10th April - Glasgow Mitchell Theatre, Exchange House, 229 George Street contact Ticketweb at http://www.ticketweb.co.uk/ for more details. Isobel has designed a lovely t-shirt and we should have it and some Gentle Waves badges for sale at the gigs, if you can't make it then check out the TGW website after Easter at http://www.jeepster.co.uk/thegentlewaves/ ************************************************************************ * sodastream * OK, self-promotion time ... when David + i went to Perth, Australia to visit all my rellies @ Christmas, we met up with a fantastic band called "sodastream". karl (vocals/guitars) + pete (bass) told us that a track off their first EP "enjoy" called "turnstyle" had made it onto John Peel's Festive Fifty for 1998. The "enjoy" EP had never been released outside Australia and we thought it was sacriledge that hardly anyone had ever heard of them, let alone be able to get hold of their music, so we've devised a cunning plan :) sodastream were offered to play the Rebound Festival in Amsterdam on 28th March and have managed to fit in a U.K. stopover at the same time, whereby we have scheduled them the following gigs! *friday 16th april, the poetry cafe, london (betterton street), doors @ 7.30pm, tickets three pounds on the door *saturday 17th april, nice'n'sleazy's, glasgow (sauchiehall street) supporting Salako, doors @ 9.00pm, tickets available on the door @ approx. four pounds *sunday 18th april, the hull adelphi (de grey street) headlining with Fonda 500 in support, doors + ticket info tbc *sunday 25th april, the bowlie weekender, camber sands holiday camp, first band on the main stage, SOLD OUT :( they are releasing a limited 7" on pickled egg/blue soda of the track "turnstyle" and two other songs "evening song" (unreleased) and "hope grocery" (available on their second ep "practical footwear"), which will be on sale at all the above gigs. i know i have a vested interest in them, seeing as they do come from the bestest city in the world :) (even though they both now live in melbourne!) but the music they make is just beautiful, so, go on! do yourself a favour (aussie speak) and try your hardest to find out more. they have a site with sound files at http://listen.to/sodastream/ ************************************************************************ cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ ***we are moving on april 1st 1999!*** new postal address is po box 14153, london, sw11 4xu, u.k. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ANDY.LOVE at xxx.com Tue Mar 23 15:58:00 1999 From: ANDY.LOVE at xxx.com (ANDY LOVE) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 15:58:00 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Pete waterman Message-ID: <199903231622.JAA20247@turtle.esosoft.net> Did anyone read the sun Bizarre section yesterday about Pete Waterman making peace with B&S and is now wearing a badge of the band! I don't know why he has allegedly done a U-turn but I guess he actually took the time out to listen to a B&S tune!!! either that the paper is talking shit, which personally I hope is the case as he may try and say he is a fan ...............Bang there goes the street cred! Another scary thought ....he may be among us, has/will he breach sinister Andy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JMoorkens at xxx.ie Tue Mar 23 16:52:47 1999 From: JMoorkens at xxx.ie (Joss Moorkens) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 16:52:47 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Ernie was the talented one - discuss Message-ID: Hey there. So the Taggles isn't leaving after all? Hooray for the brooding moody Mancunian Mumpkinny. Anyhow, I had a scarifying dream last night which I recalled when I saw the above subject line. I was in the downstairs living room of my house with the body of Ernie Wise when, quite suddenly, he opened his eyes and smiled at me. Then he let his head drop suddenly and laughed at me cos I thought he'd popped his clogs again. Then he got up and did a little dance. I was rather afraid and woke up, unable to sleep for a while. And when I did a man tried to feed me sausages. With Sleeka Sounds written on them. So, as you might imagine, I've been feeling somewhat unsettled all day today. I got to see nice Mr. Looper last Saturday. There was 2 big projector screens and 3 little tellys with nice bits of video and pictures on them. And underneath was wee Mr. David looking apologetic and gesturing wildly at his cousin inbetween his singy bits. It was all very nice, but lasted for mere moments. I don't know why he had to go on so early because the posters had him above Salako and clearly, Looper was what the Dublin popsters had come to see. Anyway, I'd recommend their gentle multimedia ways to all of the boys and girls. Even though my friend Sean was disappointed that they weren't more evil. Maybe someone could have a word.... I agree that limited singles are poo. However, isn't it odd that the article's title was taken from Huggy Bear. Wasn't that Rubbing the Impossible to Burst 7" limited to 1000 copies? I rather think it was, Sir. I've still put me order in with Rough Trade. Born a sucker, sadly. So will the next B&S single have 2 cd versions then? I hope so. I love when they do that. Cheerio.... Joss > /( )` > \ \___ / | > /- _ `-/ ' > (/\/ \ \ /\ > / / | ` \ > O O ) / | > `-^--'`< ' > (_.) _ ) / > `.___/` / > `-----' / > <----. __ / __ \ > <----|====O)))==) \) /==== > <----' `--' `.__,' \ > | | > \ / > ______( (_ / \______ > ,' ,-----' | \ > `--{__________) > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Tue Mar 23 17:03:25 1999 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 17:03:25 GMT Subject: Sinister: Short, svelte, hairless legs Message-ID: <36f8c8d3.31817358@post.demon.co.uk> Dear weird inadequates, Funny Michael mentioning Ernie Wise, Trousers was making cheap jokes about the fact that I "left" sinister on the same day as Ernie Wise rid himself of this mortal coil (that's "died" in Poetryish). I say this because he was probably going to point it out to the list and I'm a vindictive bastard so I want to spoil his fun. Far from having "short, fat hairy legs" like Ernie, it has been clinically proven that I had the kind of legs most women would kill for. This does have disadvantages and lead me to being accosted by an Iranian gentlemen while on holiday (in Italy, not Iran) and told "you are so pale, you are like a woman and Italian women will never make love to you". I cried for a week. I was given a tape of Belle and Sebastian live at Shepherd's Bush a while ago and I've only just got around to listening to it, such is the dizzy whirl of my social life. It's a fascinating historical document, and proves us all to be cheerful masochists, just like Comrade Haines said we were. Up until that point I thought I was just having a good time with my mates, regardless of the group's sub-standard performance, but no...I can clearly hear the massed Sinister choir screaming "Shit on us Stuart, we're not worthy". Who's coming out to play with me and Warrander John in Glasgow at Easter? There's no Uptight which is a pain, but Wardie assures me there will be lots of jolly antics, though I'm not going to let Warrander talk me into playing Mummies and Daddies like I did last time. Up yours ugly, Love tag xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Tue Mar 23 18:59:36 1999 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetryplace2) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 18:59:36 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Cor, baby, that's so free Message-ID: <01be755f$4ba06ba0$046b9ac2@g5-200-1> A brief message, of no interest to those of you who don't live in London. This Friday there's another social at the Poetry Cafe. For full details go here >> http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/cgi-bin/mboard/belle/thread.cgi?106,0 << I should add that since I posted these details a support act has been added. I assure you I am not having some kind of freaky flashback when I tell you that Wild Willie Barratt, one time sidekick of John Otway, will be doing some folsky minstrelsy as a warm up for those scandi-pop vikings Poor Rich Ones. I'm scared. Still only £3! For further info email me privately Stevie Trousers xoxox +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Snowinsumr at xxx.com Tue Mar 23 20:25:27 1999 From: Snowinsumr at xxx.com (Snowinsumr at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 15:25:27 EST Subject: Sinister: "...if you were a lovely girl would you always be looking in the mirror..." Message-ID: <80b6c855.36f7f8b7@aol.com> dear "looper is amazing" diary... long night...listening to looper right now...how utterly fantastic...i almost cry everytime that i read that insert about how karn and stuart david met...how dreadfully wonderful...love in the purest sense of the word...i dream of making music with someone that i care about...it would be so lovely to make something as important as what music is to me with someone that i cared for dearly... i am in search of the black sessions...a copy...i would love one if anyone has the time and maybe i could make you a mix tape in return...i have many hard to find cure and pet shop boys records ;) dizzyanddreaming... meganelise +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Wed Mar 24 05:53:16 1999 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake E. Hamilton) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 00:53:16 -0500 Subject: Sinister: hey goodbye all you punks, stay young and stay high... Message-ID: <000f01be75ba$9f33ede0$ee941198@wfu.edu> Greetings and Salutations-- I would first off like to let everyone know that I just converted yet another wee lad to the likes of B&S. He's ordered both LPs, and the EPs won't be far behind, I imagine. Oh, and he's a big punk/ska person, which makes this little victory even more exciting. I must say I can't wait for the Gentle Waves LP. I think I have a crush on Isobel, is that bad? She is indeed as cute as a button. Maybe she's reading this...how can I come across being cool and slick, but also with a touch of sensitivity. Guess I'll work on it. I figure since I'm American, I'm already behind in the game. Speaking of which, in case anyone cares (and I do mean, ANYone) it looks as if I will be coming to London this summer! Yes, I, who's never been out of the country except for Canada (for about half an hour or so) will be transgressing the great pond in late May. Not sure where I'll be staying, I'm afraid, but already on my sight seeing list is the Eel Pie house (maybe Pete will be rummaging around for those Lifehouse tapes!) and various other references in all my favorite Who songs. My point--well, around the first week in May I'll be sending another post asking for advice on where to go, what to do, et al. Most of all, I want to experience some nifty music, so, well, I'll remind all of you wee lasses when the time comes. My Looper cd had better get here soon, hmm. By the way, any Sinisterees in the southeast US? It's lonely down here, and really hot. bye for now blake ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ "I am not Jesus, though I have the same initials." - Jarvis Cocker +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Wed Mar 24 05:24:53 1999 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 00:24:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: charming companions Message-ID: ok, so i've been away for a little bit, but it looks like i've been needed. not for any reason in particular, i'm just giving myself importance. At 7:36 AM 3/21/99, headrush city wrote: >Once you hit 20, do you get all nostalgic for days spent bunking off >in the park, or are you more glad to be rid of the out-of-control >hormones and the pretensiousness? what's bunking off in the park? is that like screwing in the bushes? and i take offense to the notion that i'm old just because i'm 20. my hormones are more busy and i'm sure that i must be just as pretentious as ever, if not more. true pretentiousness can't begin until grad school. hmmm, that's all i feel like replying to. i bought the looper album on vinyl as my recording teacher told me that it makes japanese people happier and live longer, and that's a fact. i'd review it, but every single person has said the same thing so i doubt there's a need. don't make fun of tag. just cause he's jaded. that's what happens when you turn 20. i went to see "the book of life" tonight. you'll be pleased to know that it's a powerbook. hal hartley again. can there be enough of his films? btw - i loved it. xoxo megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the NEWLY UPDATEDmagnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Wed Mar 24 09:20:51 1999 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (weejay) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 09:20:51 -0000 Subject: Sinister: looper piccies Message-ID: <199903240914.JAA20977@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 1384 bytes Desc: not available URL: From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Wed Mar 24 09:51:38 1999 From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (Michael Jones) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 01:51:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Peter Paph ? E's havin' a laff... Message-ID: <19990324095138.17384.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com> .. or rather he isn't. Top Time Out scribe P Paphides, last seen skulking around in the gents at the '200 Tousled Bedwetters' event in New Cross, has devoted a two-page spread to an investigation of 'the cult of Belle and Sebastian' in the latest edition of the London listings mag. Far from being the piss-take my rampant media-paranoia might lead me to expect, it's actually pretty good (but then Paph is a good sort, by all accounts). The Smiths comparison is considered and then, thankfully, rejected (at least in terms of the band - it still holds for the fanbase, I guess). There's the usual bumph about shambolic live shows (groan - I won't go on about Leeds again but that night was an exercise in grace and splendour) and a neat anecdotal potted history. I'll leave it to someone with faster fingers or one of those magick scanning contraptions to furnish you all with the full article; I'll also leave it to someone with tighter underwear to point out the omission in the discography. A little bird tells me that this could herald the start of extensive media interest in our little community, so brace yourselves. Pam and I have already had Rick Sky going through our bins this week and Trousers has hired a private detective... Stay fresh, Mike. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed Mar 24 11:10:43 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 11:10:43 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Last night a DJ saved my life Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22523A9D@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Well, I DJed last night for the first time in almost 3 years, and managed to blow the tweeters...I swear blind it wasn't my fault, it never went into the red, but those recorders in The Boy with the Arab Strap must've pushed those high frequencies that little bit too far :) Yes, I managed to play Belle and Sebastian to a smallish crowd of moderately bored and sober medical students, despite orders to make sure I didn't alienate the clientele (I was practically Pete Tong the rest of the time, so a little bit of leeway had to be acceptable). Vicky wouldn't let me play any Kate Bush, though :( The best bit is that half way through my set, a girl came over to the DJ booth and asked me if I was able to DJ an indie classic (?) set on April 28th at the Watershed in Wimbledon from 8 pm onwards (is that enough of a plug yet?). So I said yes, I get to do it for beer (yay!), so if anyone wants to come along and request B&S all night (and who am I to refuse my adoring fans :)), make sure you're there... ****please ignore this paragraph if you're not Lesley Jo Miller**** Sorry to abuse the list like this, but Lesley Jo, you've become entirely uncontactable, where are you? Get in touch if you can... Bought my Gentle Waves ticket yesterday, which has got me all a-flutter, even if I haven't been able to get my hands on the single yet (John, you're my only hope ) - though I'm not going to Looper tonight, unless a listee fairy godmother fancies doing the full pumpkin thing and rescuing me from an evening of dullness . Has anyone checked out the B&S reviews on the Amazon website? Or has anyone here written any of them? They're mostly extremely high praise, but there's a bitter and twisted Field Mice fan somewhere out there who really doesn't like our twee scotch chums...which reminds me, every now and then I urge people who haven't voted at the Jeepster website for their favourite songs to darn well go and do so, especially if you're a fan of Le Pastie, which is doing criminally badly. Right, enough dull, pompous twaddle - I'm going to sign off with something a little cheeky, but it's a favour for an ex-listee friend, so if anyone's interested (and I can think of a few potential contestants), give them a call...apologies and thanks to Honey :) ...... Dial-a-date is a new dating game show coming soon to ITV. The show will be coming from different towns and cities in the UK every week and is currently seeking young hipsters to take part. We can't promise true love but we can promise fun. If you're interested, or want to know more, then please mail us at cupid_tv at hotmail.com or send your details (including a recent photo and what you want from your ideal partner) to... Dial-a-date PO Box 91 London NW5 3WQ Regional auditions will be happening very soon so get in touch soon! .................. Love and kisses, Markx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Wed Mar 24 12:10:09 1999 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Dr C.B.Stride) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 12:10:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Any Bristol indie clubs? Message-ID: <8B549E560F7@woodhead.shef.ac.uk> Hi I'm going to be on a conference in Bristol for the next two nights (Wednesday 24th/Thurs 25th). Can anyone tell me if there are any clubs there likely to play Belle & Sebastian / any other indiepop type stuff / even bland britpop nonsense? cheers Chris C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk *** daytime: 0114 2223262 *** *** FAX: 0114 2727206 *** *** evening: 0114 2306539 *** "Watford FC Supporters - South Yorkshire branch" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Wed Mar 24 12:24:55 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 12:24:55 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: it's just rude Message-ID: Hey! It's list mummy Honey here, just checking everyone's cosy and snug, and no-one's dropped jam all down their shirt. Let's see - you all seem ok except... that girl with dark hair at the back... those earrings really won't work with that necklace... and Keith... your flies are undone. Oh sorry, it was intentional, ok, I'll shh. Well last week I promised to tell you all about another new list command, seeing "set nomail" has been nibbled at a couple of times by a few of you. So it's "set digest": if you want to swap between the main list and the digest, instead of unsubbing/subbing you can just send "set sinister digest" or "set sinister nodigest" to majordomo at majordomo.net. Actually it's hardly big news is it. In "TechyBoy Corner" last week, Peter, who always fiddles with the latest gadget, asked if you do a "set sinister mail" after being a nomailer, do you get all the messages back you missed. The answer is, intriguingly... no. Next week: "set sinister tag" which unsubscribes you from the main list in a big flurry and then subscribes you to the digest quietly within a couple of days. Oh no, that's just rude, sorry Tag, I couldn't resist. The Devil made me do it, and you know I love your cheeky little grin. And can't resist that (sigh!) body. "In other news" I'm intrigued by the fact I've been quoted in Select magazine, without anyone knowing. On The Morning Of The Brits I mailed you all about something I heard on Talk Radio, when erudite broadcaster Jonathan King made a comment amounting to "who the hell are Belle and Sebastian?" http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/cgi-local/archive.cgi?month=199902&msg=00267 I gave you the quote, and from the list it swiftly appeared on the Jeepster site, and now it's appeared in Select, word for word. Which is amusing because I MADE IT UP. Well, no but it was a very hasty and liberal paraphrase of what he really said, but appears to have been quoted word for word. I hear on the grapevine that Jonathan King is going to sue Select (sue! sue! sue!) and Select is going to sue Jeepster (sue! sue! etc) so I'm standing by my mailbox. Actually I made that last bit up too. You know when your pals in Glasgow are getting famous when someone starts registering their names on the Internet like speculators on the gold market. Following on from the news that belleandsebastian.com seems to belong to someone on an obscure office in "Hudson, IA" since last October (called "hotnamez" - I wonder if they're big fans of the band :), it appears that someone's bought belleandsebastian.org (heath at VALLNET.COM??), and currently there's a placeholder WWW page with the orange bus pictures. Some background prodding leads me to think it might be a commercial site? I'm going to buy belleandsebastian.net and use it to promote the Orkney fishing industry or something. Oh and I was amused to read in my favour weekly emission, Need To Know ("they stole our revolution, now we're stealing it back": www.ntk.net), that someone's registered mybigstiffy.com, and further prodding reveals it's... Disney! I am DYING with joy at the thought that they might be about to launch a new animated story called "My Big Stiffy". I'm getting in a tizzy thinking about it so I'd better stop. "some poxy geordie called paul mitchell" (c. Mistopher Chris) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kellym at xxx.com> Wed Mar 24 20:02:03 1999 From: kellym at xxx.com> (kellym at xxx.com>) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 12:02:03 -0800 Subject: Sinister: RayGun Magazine- Help Me to Help You, no b+s Message-ID: <199903242002.MAA14233@macbeth.ienet.com> hey kiddies, i hope i'm not totally abusing the list or breaking some cardinal sin carved in stone by honey on some mountaintop or anything, but i could use a bit of help with something i'm doing for work. we're trying to compile a list of some cool places (i.e. coffee shops, restaurants, clothing stores, etc.) that we will eventually start sending issues to every month. it's pretty informal, but i volunteered to get the uk information (even though we aren't exactly huge overthere or whatnot). so anyhow if anybody wanted to help me out by sending me the names and address of the hippest/coolest/whateverist spots in london, bristol, brighton and glasgow (this is just my guessing here), it would be much appreciated. i'll even send the latest issue to the first three or four people who e-mail me the information. like i said though, its informal and shouldn't be a pain, so don't go too overboard or anything, just some choice spots. -restaurant -hair salon -gallery -bar -club -clothing store -piercing/tatoo place -bookstore -coffee shop -anything else you think of please be sure to send any/all responses on this TO ME NOT THE LIST. i put that in caps just now, but i wasn't really yelling. thank you thank you thank you. -kelly mcguire kellym at raygun.com Ray Gun Publishing, Inc. 2812 Santa Monica Blvd. Suite 204 Santa Monica, CA 90404 Ph. (310) 828-0522 x46 Fx. (310) 452-8076 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From louise at xxx.uk Thu Mar 25 04:05:03 1999 From: louise at xxx.uk (Louise) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 20:05:03 -0800 Subject: Sinister: edinburgh delights! Message-ID: <002301be7674$aa222180$d84a883e@computer> hello! i've been in edinburgh for the last week and managed to see snow patrol and salako. snow patrol are appalling - they sound like pearl jam! however, salako were absolutely fantastic! can't wait to see them again at camber sands. i also got to meet richard from b&s who was very friendly. and on scotland today news the infamous grosvenor cafe was shown, with the manager giving his response to the gm food thing! cool! i was glad to get back home though as i missed my looper album! cheerio! louise +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Niceaction at xxx.com Wed Mar 24 20:20:17 1999 From: Niceaction at xxx.com (Niceaction at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 15:20:17 EST Subject: Sinister: 24 hour wank-athon, whos gonna sponsor me Message-ID: <9c422123.36f94901@aol.com> did anyone see the program last night about J D Salinger. Ok, well, a tv crew report on how he has become this big recluse for like 25 years or something, and how he does not want to speak to the media and do crap like that. So what do they do.. they go to his town and start to ask every man and his dog where he lives, whats he like nowdays, and what time he has his morning shit, and if its that runny brown kind, or if its the firm black sort. Urgh, i cant stand tv these days. I got the Gentle Waves single the other day, but i bought it on Friday, which i thought was a bit strange.. i looked at the cover, and it has the record company as Jeepster International. ! have i picked up some rare thing which will do a tigermilk and be worth 5 million pounds in 2 years, or is it that jeepster have in fact, gone international !!! i'm still too scared to listen to my tigermilk record, incase it catches fire or something as obsure as that. in case anyone is wondering about my subject header.. Someone i know said they would sponsor me for comic relief if i did a 24 hour wankathon.. i politly turned them down, but then thought about it.. and im willing to give it a go if enough people sponsor me, and i can have Isobel as a witness to make sure i last the 24 hours hours.. Speaking of isobel, i saw one of them cards in a phone box the other day, here in Brighton.. and it had a picture of a lady who was the spitting image of isobel. Do i go pay this lady to go with me ?? urgh, such a dilema. she would of course have to be wearing a school uniform, but im sure thats all part of her act anyway. Help me please !!!! take it easy kids Jamie xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Thu Mar 25 05:39:40 1999 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake E. Hamilton) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 00:39:40 -0500 Subject: Sinister: I wanna drown in cold water Message-ID: <003e01be7681$e121cca0$ee941198@wfu.edu> For those who do care-- My friend who lives next door, my recent B&S convert, confessed today to having a crush on Isobel too. So now that we're both smitten we wrap ourselves up tightly in our rooms and giggle sweetly at pictures of her on the internet. Oh, how we only wish there were more. Oh I do think I'm blushing now. And my mum wants me to buy her IYFS for her b-day. Oh how happy I am! On a somber note, I saw that I'm not on the list crush listee thing. But hey, I'm over it. As soon as the weeping subsides, that is. lovingly from across the pond, blake ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ "I am not Jesus, though I have the same initials." - Jarvis Cocker +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Thu Mar 25 04:36:37 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 23:36:37 EST Subject: Sinister: If I was only famous, well then! Message-ID: <3802fdad.36f9bd55@aol.com> dear sinister "the internet is better than any sort of pretense of a life" diary: I've come to the conclusion that I need to somehow become famous in this forum. There's almost a thousand of us, maybe more if Mister Waterman has brought defectors with him from the Steps camp.. I won't settle for being a face in the crowd. I've noticed that you have to be extreme in some fashion to make a splash in this particular pond. I'd be extremely energetic and cheerful, but I think that Lesleyjo Miller has that end covered. Perhaps I should be wise and witty.. or perhaps Tag and Honey do that well enough. I could just be odd and flamboyantly irreverant and mention rude things and naughty words, only Sister Disco does it better, and I hate competition. I tried being the quietest one here, but no-one seemed to notice. so perhaps I should be the most mediocre person here.. I think that's a good start. If I get any more flashes of wisdom, I'll let you know. Meanwhile, in token somewhat related to belle and sebastian content, whoever said that snow patrol sounded like pearl jam.. eh, if you meant bad pearl jam, then yes. I think they have one good song, and we wouldn't want to disparage that tune. i think by saying "pearl jam" you meant "crunchy grunge gee-tar rock.." if everyone here is sufficiently sick of this letter by now(cos I know I am) then I'll stop yes? goood dave* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Delaware9 at xxx.com Thu Mar 25 03:28:49 1999 From: Delaware9 at xxx.com (Delaware9 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 22:28:49 EST Subject: Sinister: "I'll only buy a book for the way it looks..." Message-ID: <3c253632.36f9ad71@aol.com> Yo, wazzup, yo? I hardly ever post but I felt the need to after last week, and many B/S related activities, with my comrade/partner-in-crime Lesley Jo (whose ISP, Mark and others, is being snotty at the moment, although all should be well within the next day or so...) on our drab-yet-fab spring breaks. Who needs beaches when you have city buses and copy shops? The first thing we did was begin the SAP (Shiny Apple Posse) Beautification Project, or go to Kinko's and make stickers for mass dissemination/gospel- spreading/conversion. They are pretty snazzy: stylin' 70s yearbook pics with fitting B/S quotes underneath, just the perfect size to quickly and furtively slap all over anything immobile, like ketchup bottles in restaurants, phone booths, telephone poles,. etc. I imagine that so far countless people have been enlightened/cheered/perplexed by our handiwork, just imagine going into yr ordinarily bleak bus shelter only to find a smiling hairsprayed girl winking, "Maybe you will have a girl tonight." Or finding a moptop "When I was a boy I was confounded by you" on yr salt shaker! I dunno if I am explaining myself well or not, and since we can only hope for the spreading of our totally boss creations to as many far places as possible, I will send the first 10 people to email me w/their addresses a loverly assortment of stickers! The only catch is that you have to put them in as many public places as possible! They are funny and cute and you feel like a badass when you stick them up. Or, maybe that's just me. Also, inspired by the great schizo songster Wesley Willis, I composed the lyrics for an ode to Stu M., now all I need is a crappy guitar and I can get me shoutin' my way up the charts! I know this has gotten "hit" written all over it, try screaming it drunkenly at the top of yr lungs to get the full effect... STUART MURDOCH You are a Glaswegian church janitor You work hard riding city buses You are so sinister in the mix In yr dreams you saw blue veins blue Stuart Murdoch! Stuart Murdoch! Stuart Murdoch! Stuart Murdoch! Yr band won the Brit Awards Pete Waterman said you cheated But I know you won fair and square You are an honest man in the long run Stuart Murdoch! x4 You are a skinny boy with ginger hair You were happy for a day in 1975 Yr only lucid when yr riding buses You enjoy engaging in buxom fun Stuart Murdoch! x 4 Rock over London! Rock on Chicago! PAT Transit: it's the best way 'round! Awwwww yeah! Well I am gonna go now, cos I am reading the Trial. Would you believe that in a witchcraft store, amidst monkeys in jars, slivers of human brain, and a violent ranting religious freak, we found the exact copy of The Trial that is on the cover of Sinister? Score! So after we each posed somberly holding it on my bed I actually decided to read it. There were cute pictures in it. Better than the ipecac-issue Rolling Stone I got in my box yesterday...Britney Spears on the cover and all over the inside!!!! NOOOOOOooooo! When I'm not with you I lose my mind, Jess :) "The Pastor is playing with the Fuzzy Felt." "Don't be fanciful, Jess." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Peter.Ramsdale at xxx.com Thu Mar 25 09:18:44 1999 From: Peter.Ramsdale at xxx.com (Pete Ramsdale) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:18:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Time Out Article Message-ID: <199903250918.JAA23225@ln4p1013pos.ldn.swissbank.com> For those of you that haven't seen it, here's the article on Belle and Sebastian from Time Out this week. It's all relevant background, and tries to explain why the writer likes B&S, although personally, I feel it comes nowhere even close to explaining the reasons why I do. Anyway, It's a half decent read...... Band on the Run --------------- When fey Scottish indie-popsters Belle and Sebastian won Best Newcomer at the Brits, a shout rang out across London Arena: Who are they? It was a question that amused the band's legions of devoted fans. But just how simple is the answer? (Report - Peter Paphides) It happens once every few years in pop. An unforseen event divides people into two camps - those who expected it, and those who are left scratching their heads. You'd have to rewind five years to the death of Kurt Cobain to pin-point last time it happened. While ITN reported his suicide seven stories into the news, the pop-literate kids grieved, and grunge eventually gave way to Britpop. It's what pop thrives on, this marking-out of territory. And it happened again on Febuary 23rd this year, when a bunch of Glaswegian Orange Juice fans called Belle and Sebastian pipped Steps to the Brit award for Best British Newcomer. No matter that 'The Boy With The Arab Strap' was the octet's third album, and that Fatboy Slim pointedly proclaimed never to have heard of them - less still that Tamara Beckwith felt 'betrayed' by the decision. Such reactions merely re-enforced those battle lines. Steps' supremo Pete Waterman took defeat especially hard. His call for an investigation was turned down by Radio 1, who had organised the phone vote. His ire didn't fall on completely deaf ears, though. In the programme notes to '200 Troubled Teenagers' - a recent Belle and Sebastian night held at the New Cross Paradise Bar - fans were asked to vote for their favourite B&S songs; 'We've invited Pete Waterman to oversee procedures and make sure everything is fair.' It's no coincidence that the last band to attract such intense adulation from such a marginal section of the pop electorate were The Smiths. Belle and Sebastian fans don't look too different to the fey young fops who turned up to Smiths shows with flowers in pockets. Both bands, too, boast songwriters who seemed to incubate in isolation. In the case of Morrissey, no-one had heard his lyrics until the mythical day Johnny Marr knocked on his door and subsequently teased out a whole interior world set amid the post-war estates that Morrissey had patrolled as a youth. The emergence of Belle and Sebastian's Stuart Murdoch as a songwriter came as a similar surprise to those who knew him. 'Stuart was a popular character in Glasgow,' says Duglas Stewart, producer of a forthcoming B&S documentary and singer with BMX Bandits, 'but no-one knew he wrote songs until about four years ago when he just got up and performed three songs at a club put on by (cult indie icons) The Pastels.' 'They were called Rhode Island then,' reaclls Mark Jones, co-owner of the band's record label, jeepster. 'This demo came to my attention and I was blown away. I played it to a friend at Geffen Records, and he sent it to Seymour Stein (president of Sire in America, and the man who signed Madonna). Within 24 hours of receiving it, he was making plans to come over. It was at that point that I sensed how much impact this might make.' Manhattan Murdoch Mystery ------------------------- In January 1996, Murdoch stood in a friend's bedroom and played songs like 'The State I'm In' and 'String Bean Jean' to talent scouts from 25 record companies. 'It was amazing,' laughs Jones, 'to see subsidiaries of the same labels squabbling for the band's signature. Most groups would have been flattered by the attention, but I think the band felt that the record industry was a rip-off. For Stuart, choosing a label was a case of damage limitation. At least we were able to offer a 50/50 royalty split.' Belle and Sebastian chose Jeepster, but not before the fledgeling label was given a taste of the single-mindedness they would have to get used to. The band's drummer, Richard Colburn, was attending a music industry course at Stow College in Glasgow, for which the students were required to 'sign' a band and put their record out on their own label. It was for this project that Belle and Sebastian formed. 'I was left in a strange position,' reflects Jones. 'Stuart gave me his pledge, but wouldn't sign for another eight months, after they'd recorded 'Tigermilk' for this course. When the day finally approached, I phoned him and said, "Are you excited about signing with Jeepster tomorrow?" And he replied, "Oh, we already did it today, with a local lawyer." I was like, "Well, cheers for telling me!"' With all 1,000 copies of 'Tigermilk' sold out, London got it's first taste of Belle and Sebastian in November 1996 when they arrived to promote the release of their second album, 'If You're Feeling Sinister'. According to the band's publicist, Chris Stone, 'The Borderline show was one of those gigs when you know you're watching history being made.' The buzz was already deafening: the Charlie Brown piano patter of 'Seeing Other People', and the schoolyard sexual politics of 'Stars of Track and Field' were already stoking the curiosity of fans. At this point it seemed inevitable that Murdoch's slender frame would soon be gracing the cover of every music magazine in Britain. What no one banked on was the fact that he wouldn't want any of it. To this day, no group photos exist. In the absence of any willingness to entertain media intrigue, a view has gathered ground that Belle and Sebastian are contemptuous of anyone outside their immediate circle. Much of this can be attributed to their legendary shambolic 1997 shows. At the Union Chapel, one changeover between songs took so long that guitarist Stevie Jackson steppen in with an acoustic 'Like a Rolling Stone'. In New York they left it till the support band came off to announce that they were cancelling, citing the illness of Stuart's ex-girlfriend, multi-instrumentalist Isobel Campbell, as the reason. The impression given during this perion was clearly not lost on Jackson, who issued a statement conceding that 'right now, we are a shambles, but.... we could never be deliberately contemptuous of an audience'. 'I was at the New York show,' says Gail O'Hara, whose fanzine Chickfactor inspired Jackson's eponymous song, 'and it was unfortunate, but as a band, they are incredibly protective of each other. If things aren't perfect, they won't play. It's born of perfectionism, not rudeness.' And yet the suggestion won't go away. Perhaps Belle and Sebastian are perpetually doomed to rub folk up the wrong way. At last years Shepherd's Bush Empire show, they took to the stage phenomenally late - to a mixture of boos and cheers. As the noise died down, someone shouted 'You'd better be fucking good', only to be heckled down by a cluster of devotees. What ensued was comical: Belle and Sebastian attempting to play their songs while opposing factions within the audience traded abuse. A certain parallel might amuse the man who wrote 'Like Dylan in the Movies': the last time such intra-audience tension divided followers from doubters was Dylan's first electric tour. Belle Epoque ------------ 'There is this perception problem,' agrees Jones, 'and sometimes I get exasperated when, say, Radiohead or Pulp invite them on their world tour, or when they turn down 'Later' because they can't decide what song to do. But it's because, live, they're doing something different. It has its flipside, though - for instance, their refusal to release singles off albums. As people, they're anything but contemptuous. Stevie used to work with aids patients; Isobel used to teach disabled children with her cello; and Stuart's just a sweetheart. Even at the beginning, when I offered to buy them train tickets, they said, "No, we'd rather hitch." And you have to respect that.' Where to unravel the contradictions, then? 'I don't think there are any,' points out one insider on the Glasgow music scene. 'The media should let them be. Stuart's never done anything to court stardom or it's paraphernalia. He's even held on to his old job as a janitor in the local church. The only bands he ever wanted to emulate were The Pastels and Felt, and that happened ages ago. He's in Uncharted territory.' It's a view echoed by Duglas. 'Most of us can get starry-eyed by celebrity. But Stuart would much rather talk about the new railings they've just got for the town hall.' Perhaps he saw all this coming. On one early track, 'This is Just a Modern Rock Song', Murdoch sings, 'I could tell you what I'm thinking / But it never seems to do you good...... I'm only lucid when I'm writing songs.' Tellingly, it's one of the few lyrics that relinquishes the role of a spectator, 'keeping an eye on the weather and the passer-by in case one of them ought to have a song written about them' (a quote from the band's first, self-written press release). For all the parallels between Murdoch and Morrissey, there's a crucial difference. Morrissey bemoans being an outsider; Murdoch relishes it. 'I remember this one gig in 1997,' begins our Glasgow source, 'at which Belle and Sebastian were headlining. They were already quite big by this point, but Stuart just sat there in the corner just observing and writing. His songs came from anonimity. Why should he want to sacrifice it?' Why, indeed, when this band have managed to negotiate such a position of power for themselves? Even the Manic Street Preachers - for many, a model of integrity - seem obliged to divide their time between magazine covers, award ceremonies and endless tours, and all for the standard royalty percentage. Would their sales hold up, though, if they simply withdrew? The exciting thing about Belle and Sebastian is that no one before them has come so far while refusing so much - bar none. Seymour Stein wanted them, but Seymour Stein can't have them. The NME would love to claim them as one of their bands, but they can't have them either. Over in New Cross, the bearded boys and lank-haired girls seem to have claimed them as their own. Who would begrudge them? ----------------------------||------------------------------- Life is full of regrets, and I've had a few, as Frank Sinatra once sang, before hiccuping loudly and falling over sideways. Pete Ramsdale - peter.ramsdale at wdr.com Phone: 0171 568 3836 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From giita at xxx.com Thu Mar 25 11:26:19 1999 From: giita at xxx.com (Aileen Hammond) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 03:26:19 PST Subject: Sinister: Sun and plane tickets... Message-ID: <19990325112619.27152.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi there bellboys&girls, The summer is near :) The sun is shining the birds are..and it is STILL snowing (Arrgh!)(in Iceland) The day started wonderfully..On my way to school I was listening to The Milk on my Walkman, when I arrived at school(at 8 in the morning) someone had put on TBWTAS on the stereo!(we have loudspeakers in the student areas) All around school you could the sweet, happy music of B&S really loud. It was WONDERFUL :) That put a smile on my face.. The sun melted and it started snowing.. More Bowlie trouble: I can�t get a plane ticket to London for that weekend!!!! What am I going to do?? I even tried t see if there were any passenger ships going to England, but no... I am seeking other options, a plane ticket to anywhere in Britain.. Do you know if there are flights to Scotland or Whales from Iceland? Oh dear..a month to go and no plane ticket :( Well... Take care! Giita Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Thu Mar 25 15:02:37 1999 From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (Michael Jones) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 07:02:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Morley mauled, Bangs banged up Message-ID: <19990325150237.20559.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> Hello you, Peej Milla, in a post I somehow missed at the time, bellowed: > I would love to see Duke strut his stuff in that pub, it'll be great. > The Good Book, formerly known as "Young and Foolish" has an Amazon UK > sales ranking of 65,460!!! Which is one hell of a lot of sales. Unless > it means something else. This spurred me to continue my personal quest to eke out morsels of POP-rich data from the vast coal-face of the Wibbly Wobbly Web, thereby avoiding work and providing fellow Sinisteroonies with a tasty info snack. In short, I discovered from the Amazon UK site than the Duke is pounding other rock-crit wannabes, dead or alive, into the dust with his fruity treatise. Lester Bangs' "Psychotic Reactions" is flailing around at #91,316, Greil Marcus' "In The Fascist Bathroom" is in the toilet at #113,000+ and Simon Reynolds' "Blissed Out" is *passed* out beyond the top 150 thousand. It's almost painful to report that Paul Morley's "Definitive Story of Punk" is 80,000 places below even Reynolds and Kevin Pearce's "Something Beginning With O" appears to have sold an appropriately round number of copies. So, the Dukester is holding up very nicely approximately mid-way between the hardback edition of Margaret Atwood's "Alias Grace" (I'm currently not reading that) and Jacques Derrida's "Aporias (Meridian: Cross Aesthetics)" - a work which poses the question, "My death - is it possible ?". Come round my house with your Gauloises and your off-the-cuff Heidegger again, pal, and you'll soon find out. Ta ta, Mike. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Thu Mar 25 15:33:00 1999 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (Kerry Lannert) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:33:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: and here i am, grinning like an idiot Message-ID: a few months ago i made a belle and sebbie patch of the two dancing kids and put it on my backpack. today when i was walking home from class two girls passed behind me and i heard one say to the other "she has a belle and sebastian patch!" actually, she kinda whispered it and the other girl didn't hear her very well or something and she said it again. in retrospect i guess i should have turned around and kissed her or something, but i just smiled like an idiot and walked on. i mean, it wasn't so much that someone here likes b&s (because i already knew there are a decent number of fans here), but that she saw the patch and recognized it and felt the need to tell the person she was with. tee hee. -kerry http://hamp.hampshire.edu/~kwl96 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Arigreen23 at xxx.com Thu Mar 25 16:41:25 1999 From: Arigreen23 at xxx.com (Arigreen23 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 11:41:25 EST Subject: Sinister: time out article/etc. Message-ID: <1b10d5b4.36fa6735@aol.com> wow, is the band really this "big" now in britain? here in the US I don't hear that much about them as it seems is being said there, and then the writer compared it to the Nirvana phenomenon...also it was mentioned that Isobel got sick in New York? I thought it was at Philadelphia they cancelled? was she sick twice? on another non- b & s note, I went to the elliott smith show in Philly last night (hi julia!), it was quite great...we actually got to speak with janet weiss (of sleater-kinney) for a few moments in between bands, but I forgot to mention the bowlie weekender...she was very nice though... bye now... ari +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tomsather at xxx.com Thu Mar 25 17:00:13 1999 From: tomsather at xxx.com (Thomas Sather) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:00:13 PST Subject: Sinister: mountain kids? Message-ID: <19990325170014.25426.qmail@hotmail.com> I was wondering if there were any sinisterites in the denver/boulder area. I was thinking that a picnic of some sort in the mountains with good food, good music, and playful dancing in an aspen forest would be quite nice. Email me if anyone is interested. tom Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From giita at xxx.com Thu Mar 25 17:41:07 1999 From: giita at xxx.com (Aileen Hammond) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:41:07 PST Subject: Sinister: Sand, sea and Bowlie.. Message-ID: <19990325174107.12469.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi, Some more Bowlie: I was wondering, does anyone know what day and time the bands play?? I am hoping that B&S don�t play on the Sunday..They are headlining the festival and I think it is likely that they play on Sunday... I have to leave the festival to catch a plane in the afternoon. B&S are the main reason why I�m going..So please if anyone has heard any rumours or anything please tell me. Thanks. I am sorry for my whining posts lately, I have just been worrying so much about this festival and gone through so much trouble to organize things to go.. Anyway, my Easter holidays start tomorrow then I have no school for 11 days :) But plenty of work to do though. I�ll stop counting fishes now.. Giita XXX Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paul at xxx.com Fri Mar 26 11:51:47 1999 From: paul at xxx.com (Paul Clarke) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 11:51:47 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V3 #95 References: <199903261134.EAA12559@turtle.esosoft.net> Message-ID: <36FB74D3.8AC22FF6@fortunecity.com> > Some more Bowlie: I was wondering, does anyone know what day and time > the bands play?? I am hoping that B&S don´t play on the Sunday..They are > headlining the festival and I think it is likely that they play on > Sunday... I have to leave the festival to catch a plane in the > afternoon. > B&S are the main reason why I´m going..So please if anyone has heard any > rumours or anything please tell me. > Thanks. Someone told me yesterday (at a Gene gig, quite good, and deejay Bruno Brooks was there) that B&S were headlining the Sunday, and she's heard it from a "belle and sebastian mailout, or somewhere". +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From PaperSun23 at xxx.com Fri Mar 26 15:55:40 1999 From: PaperSun23 at xxx.com (PaperSun23 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 10:55:40 EST Subject: Sinister: "schoolyard sexual politics" Message-ID: <185c41c.36fbadfc@aol.com> In a message dated 3/26/99 9:47:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, rap101 at york.ac.uk writes: << ... i don't think i have a 'look'. i don't wear indie glasses, i don't even wear cardies or flares or flowers or band t-shirts. i look like someone who doesn't listen to music at all, i think. but i kind of thought that liking b&s, unlike any other band, meant that you didn't have to look or act like anything in particular... >> Indeed, you don't have to look like anything or anyone to be a Belle and Sebastian fan. There should be an overemphasis on the music and not on a collective image of the fan base. Some of us share similar tastes in fashion but there certainly is no prerequisite to being a fan. We do, however, run the risk of allowing ourselves to be a bit pretentious and precious at times, but that's a behaviour inherent in the fans of "intelligent" music. How many times have you gone to an indie show and overheard conversations full of band discography and "they were better back before..."? It happens all the time; kids trying to sound as if they can't possibly like something because lots of people do. It's one thing to be knowledgeable about the music you enjoy, but it's another thing to alienate the rest of the fans with an elitist attitude. Wow, I'm out of control! Sorry if I sound preachy, but I had to get that out. Also, about the Smiths comparison...I agree with m. elise, as I am a huge Smiths fan. I've never heard the similarities in the music, but understand a common quality in both bands' essence. They make us feel special and cause many otherwise well-mannered people to dance around uncontrollably in bedrooms all over the world. This is not such a bad thing at all! One Love, Moon Patroller Carrie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Fri Mar 26 17:30:13 1999 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake E. Hamilton) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 12:30:13 -0500 Subject: Sinister: I call that a bargain, the best i ever had... Message-ID: <001b01be77ae$4ea98560$ee941198@wfu.edu> maybe it's me and i think that i am writing the list too much. if this is indeed the case, please, above all else, let me know. you all have become my html-text based diary, so be thankful, look up into the sky and kiss it lightly. my point is that i am officially submitting my grovel for a copy of the Black Sessions. if anyone's interested, i've got many a great Who bootlegs that will do just fine for a little taped copy of our wee friends. well i can feel the boredom begin to accumulate like the heat on my window. and to add to a discussion that i believe, unfortunately, has died, i think B&S make great summer music. but it makes the biggest impact on me when i listen to it in the winter, for the songs seem to be mostly about how the summer is always so carefree and sunny, and then when winter rolls around and the pained pores of the trees lose all they once had, and we can all still remember how great is used to be. oh, and for anyone who crazily wants to talk to me on a personal plane, my aol instant messenger name thingee is TigerJammy and my darling icq number is 22810722 i get bored, so you just might catch me on, well yes, ok, i'm going now... love, blake and i'm serious about the black sessions plea! tea and crumpets for the first offer! (ok that's false advertising, since i'm in the US, the closest thing i have to a crumpet is a Nutri Grain cereal bar....p'shaw) ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ "I am not Jesus, though I have the same initials." - Jarvis Cocker +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Snowinsumr at xxx.com Fri Mar 26 14:22:25 1999 From: Snowinsumr at xxx.com (Snowinsumr at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 09:22:25 EST Subject: Sinister: "...will the world end in the daytime...oh, i don't know..." Message-ID: <5f3bf817.36fb9821@aol.com> dear "i hate being compared to smith's fans" diary... i love the smiths...morrissey is my passion...my lifeline...making me feel that i may really be all right after all...i understand that belle and sebastian sound immensely like nick drake and really not very smiths-esque at all...but i think that they all bring about very intense feelings...and that's where the comparison comes from...so it isn't a shameful thing to be compared to a smiths fan...i'm a smiths fan and i'm not so horrid :) it's 9.20...that means off to the library...to watch the beautiful people make their mark in this world...i'm a lot happier lately...i suppose that is rather nice... watching the world pass her by... m. elise +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Fri Mar 26 14:41:22 1999 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 14:41:22 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: "schoolyard sexual politics" Message-ID: buongiorno. what was preoccupyng me today? oh yes. i'm another one of the unfortunate people who are currently 20 years old, and i expect that, yes, there are many listerines (and indeed other, normal people) who do not consider this old. at all. and it isn't, but as the big two one approaches and there will soon be precious little that i'm not allowed to do on grounds of age any more, things do begin to look a bit bleak. biologically, i suppose, i am still very wee, but this is no comfort since as i am a grrrl i will not reach my sexual prime until my thirties, which leaves an awful lot of time to be unsatisfied and repressed. meanwhile all my male friends are romping around, hormones raging, content (?) in the knowledge that they are at their physical peak RIGHT NOW. and yet how many couples do you see made up of thirty year old women and nineteen year old men? not nearly enough, i say. oh dear, i'm rambling today. i haven't spoken to anyone for a while... reading articles and stuff (and even picking up vibes from this list), it seems that there is a certain perception of what b&s fans are like, as well as the band. i must say that i don't feel described by anything i've read. i don't think i have a 'look'. i don't wear indie glasses, i don't even wear cardies or flares or flowers or band t-shirts. i look like someone who doesn't listen to music at all, i think. but i kind of thought that liking b&s, unlike any other band, meant that you didn't have to look or act like anything in particular. seems i could be wrong though. i don't have any indie credentials - i don't go to gigs any more, my cd collection is pretty tiny, and i've never heard of the field mice. also i've never read any douglas coupland or kerouac, or lots of other people mentioned here. now that b&s are becoming 'news', i feel constrained by being a 'fan', and even a bit alienated from other 'fans'. i thought it was about the music... all that said, i'm feeling quite happy in my own little ignorant, non-sectarian way at the moment. finished my dissertation, the sun is shining over the city of york, i've got lovely music to listen to (although i may not know anything about it) and i'm seeing my sweetheart on monday. 'you heard the bird sing, everything will be fine'. luv archel xxx ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ***** do something pretty while you can don't be afraid skating a pirouette on ice is cool - belle and sebastian -------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lee at xxx.uk Fri Mar 26 10:49:22 1999 From: lee at xxx.uk (Lee) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 10:49:22 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Tamara Beckwith felt 'betrayed' by the decision Message-ID: <002701be7776$7815e660$cd7638d4@bentley> Cheers to Pete for sending the Time Out article, I like it when people send stuff like this to the list. It was interesting stuff. All these articles seem to harp on about the same things, which is understandable I guess as their trying to introduce the band, like the Smiths comparison, which personally I cant (or wont) see. Although I can hear it in 'Get me away from here'. I resent being likened to a Smiths fan, do you think I can sue? It's true the guy who wrote the article is a fan, I wonder if that clouded his judgement, because this is a massive exaggeration, or maybe it's just because he's a journalist: "It happens once every few years in pop. An unforeseen event divides people into two camps - those who expected it, and those who are left scratching their heads. You'd have to rewind five years to the death of Kurt Cobain to pin-point last time it happened." Does anyone know if this is true?: "In January 1996, Murdoch stood in a friend's bedroom and played songs like 'The State I'm In' and 'String Bean Jean' to talent scouts from 25 record companies." I quite like the odd heckle, although I'd never dare do it myself, it's funny to see Stuart look confused and genuinely go "Sorry... I cant hear you, what did you say....what did he say?" and actually expect an answer. This one was understandable I thought: "At last years Shepherd's Bush Empire show someone shouted 'You'd better be fucking good'." This made my day: "Tamara Beckwith felt 'betrayed' by the decision." She's 231st in line to the throne you know, a very powerful enemy to have. lee +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Sat Mar 27 08:07:04 1999 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 02:07:04 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: to soakup excess booze In-Reply-To: <002701be7776$7815e660$cd7638d4@bentley> Message-ID: I've had a bit more Maker's Mark Kentucky straight bourbon whiksy than I can hold, so please forgive me. (It was so sweet and delicious. William Carlos Williams.) It's like this: Where do couples meet? Overall, though I enjoy savouring a stout or some fine liquor now and then, my distaste for bars is well documented. Having visited several bars in the past several weeks, I've yet to encounter an unaccompanied female. Quite unintentionally, my hobby has become trying to make conversation with apparently unaccompanied females, to wait until their boyfriend joins us, and then to attempt to adjust to the change in the situation. It occurs to me there must be a more enjoyable way to spend a Friday night. As soon as my thoughts start to separate, instead of this semi-congealed blob in my brain now, it's time to re-check the mix I did last night of a track intended for my next disc. And then time to listen to the first Momus album which arrived in the mail today. Thank you and good night, --Mark __ Burning Rome : SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 > Distributed by Dutch East India Trading, Com Four, and Carrot Top < < http://www.xnet.com/~mkolmar/BurningRome > < MP3 & RealAudio tracks > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tunnock at xxx.au Sat Mar 27 10:36:23 1999 From: tunnock at xxx.au (Chris Tunnock) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 20:36:23 +1000 Subject: Sinister: Smiths/Morrissey Message-ID: <36FCB4A7.A76@alphalink.com.au> Dear List, May I weigh in on this discussion by stating I am a fan of the Smiths and the "fine and dandy" Steven Patrick Morrissey, and although I neither cannot see musical similarities, I believe fans of B&S and fans of the aforementioned are not mutually exclusive... and I object to that notion like the few before me! Enough. Bye Chris +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Sat Mar 27 11:21:05 1999 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 11:21:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Gay Mark, we don't want to know... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The music press are always going to stereotype B&S fans as being all the same, even though it's blatantly not true. It's the same as the way they make up genres and subgenres to describe what a band sound like, and lump in with them other bands who sound completely different. It's just lazy journalism. Get used to it... On Sat, 27 Mar 1999, Mark Kolmar wrote: > > It's like this: Where do couples meet? Judging on previous form, at a Sinister picnic... (well I know at least two ongoing couples who did!) Speaking of which, those of us who were at the Poetry Cafe last night made an executive decision that the first Sinister picnic of the year shall take place in London on the May Day bank holiday (Monday May 3). Place and time tbc, but probably 2pm on Primrose Hill, to celebrate the first anniversary of the first picnic. For those of you who weren't on the list last summer, picnics were held every few weeks in London and elsewhere around the world. Everyone is invited (40+ people is not unheard of...), all you have to do is bring a bit of food. We then spend the afternoon meeting new people, chatting, drinking (normally well into the evening), playing football / twister / frisbee / whatever else anyone brings along, and rescuing kites from lampposts. And then progress to the pub later on. And there's always the possibility that you could end up lying on the ground in a park somewhere in South East London at 4am singing B&S songs... (for further tales, search for picnics in the archives for May / June / July / August last year) To all the people who complain that the list is too cliquey at times, and who think that they're not going to come along because they don't know anyone and we all know each other, just remember; the only reason some of us do know each other is because we met at the picnics last summer. And if you've not got anyone to come with, come by yourself - you won't be the only one. We're all very friendly... I know it's a long way off, but put it in your diaries now; the more people who come along the better! Anyway, I'm off to Yorkshire for a couple of weeks to try and cope with living with my parents for a bit. I've decided the easiest way to cope is to go off camping at Loch Lomond next weekend with some mates, and avoid the parents as much as possible... Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Sat Mar 27 12:48:59 1999 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 12:48:59 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Here Comes the Groom... Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB6901AC12@PARK_EX> hi there folks About half an hour ago Stuart said: >the first Sinister picnic of the year shall >take place in London on the May Day bank holiday (Monday >May 3). Place and >time tbc, but probably 2pm on Primrose Hill, Oh no! I really would like to come, but I'll be on my honeymoon (not with honey, you understand), oh well, there shall be other picnics but not other honeymoons (thats the plan anyway). Regarding the Sm**hs thing, I agree with all the similarities but hope that our current favourite band won't split up after 4 albums (or release a dreadful live album)! Can anyone suggest good songs to get married to??? We're having a civil ceremony on 1 May (ie 5 weeks time, EEEEkk!) at Pittville Pump Rooms in Cheltenham(a very grand old regency-style building) and we are trying to think of cool music to have before and after. Most of the records I own are too sad or weird to be played at a wedding (How Soon Is Now? would hardly be appropriate!) so any suggestions would be greatfully received. btw anyone mentioning 'Lets Get Married' by The Proclaimers will be painted blue and laughed at. later xox CarsmileSteve ---------------------------------------------- carsmilesteve at geocities.com visit our website http://fast.to/carsmile and get a !F!R!E!E! Demo tape 'So tell me what have you got? 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alix.campbell at xxx.net Sat Mar 27 13:05:15 1999 From: alix.campbell at xxx.net (Alix Campbell) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 13:05:15 -0000 Subject: Sinister: from china to peru Message-ID: <005801be7852$8ed49360$537ca8c2@big-comp> hallo you filthy lot well, it's certainly been a while since i wrote. not a bad thing, mayhap. even though i'm not a student, i shall reveal, in an exciting manner, just how i've been spending my time. it's like this, i've been drinking fine tea, from the co-op, no less, and scouting oxford on the weekend for teapot of my own. it's very difficult, none of the charity shops seem to have anything of interest to a tea connoiseur. all the other teapots i find seem to be brown. why is this? i don't want a brown teapot. if anyone has a spare teapot, i'd be delighted. and, oh, had a nice time up poetry cafe way last night. even got the courage to go and buy drinks. OY OY. anyway, i have run out of things to say. i think i have list fatigue because i simply can't think of anything to write. this is a pathetic attempt to rectify.... i shall venture back into oxford, maybe today...a teapot will be mine. chances are, i'll end up in the pub again though. alix.x the universe contains everything that exists, the planets, their moons, the stars, star clusters, the galaxies and groups of galaxies and all the space and all the gas between them. as far as scientists know there is only one universe and there is nothing which is not part of it. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From travelling_light at xxx.com Sat Mar 27 16:01:52 1999 From: travelling_light at xxx.com (Kin Woo) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 08:01:52 PST Subject: Sinister: From my neck of the woods Message-ID: <19990327160152.23455.qmail@hotmail.com> Wow I can't believe that Sodastream are going to support Salako on their UK jaunt! I mean they're from the 'the most remote city in the world'-i.e. Perth, Western Australia, where I live...!:) Shamefacedly I must admit I've only seen 'em once, when they supported Pavement and I thought they made quite sweet if nothing-that-grabbed-me-too-much music. My friends knew 'em quite well so they'll be extremely shocked to hear of their sudden upturn of fame and fortune:) Good on Katrina (another ex Perth-riate!:) for championing them and opening 'em up to a whole new potential audience:)Next up, Katrina, bring Belle and Sebastian here!!!That'd be the ultimate! C'mon expound to 'em the many erm delights of Australia like... can't think of any! Oh yeah err fresh air and umm space... Well good luck to Sodastream and all you Bowlie goers have fun and spare a thought for the less fortunate B&S fanATICS living in far off lands. Old topic but is anyone else as upset as I was when Gwyneth Paltrow won the Oscar, depriving our very own (as in Aussie) Cate Blanchett of one??? BOO HISS! NO MORE AWARDS FOR STUCK UP ACTRESSES who've got it great all their lives!!! ok that's off my chest, gotta skeddadle. Everyone go and see "Cruel Intentions" the movie, (more about this in a forthcoming message:) and peace and love to all! seeya Kin Woo With A Star Upon Your Shoulder Lighting Up The Path As You Walk Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Riddley13 at xxx.com Sat Mar 27 15:02:57 1999 From: Riddley13 at xxx.com (Riddley13 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 10:02:57 EST Subject: Sinister: Maker's Mark Message-ID: <3212e025.36fcf321@aol.com> Maker's Mark Kolmar wrote: >It's like this: Where do couples meet? Overall, though I enjoy savouring a stout or some fine liquor now and then, my distaste for bars is well documented. Having visited several bars in the past several weeks, I've yet to encounter an unaccompanied female. Quite unintentionally, my hobby has become trying to make conversation with apparently unaccompanied females, to wait until their boyfriend joins us, and then to attempt to adjust to the change in the situation.< Stupid suggestion #1 to adjust to the returning boyfriend, findout where they met. Keep conducting this survey at all bars where you approach women who are not actually alone and post the results (hopefully they will not say that they met in the bar) stupid suggestion#2 move to nyc and fall of your bike in central park on a sunny sunday afternoon and you will meet more women than you can possibly imagine (as long as you don't mind a skinned knee) stupid suggestion #3 send me a bottle of Maker's Mark and I will fix you up none of these are guaranteed to work (except for #3 which has an excellent chance) wishing I was in Kentucky or at least having a maker's mark ... mmmmm John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ar981611 at xxx.uk Sat Mar 27 14:45:38 1999 From: ar981611 at xxx.uk (Ailsa Ross) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 14:45:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian, on the radio.... Message-ID: <36FCEF12.702E1FE9@student.paisley.ac.uk> Remember a while back that people were asking the weirdest places where you had heard Belle and Sebastian, well on the football section on Radio Scotland they do a sketch/comedy show about Scottish football and someone playing Fergus McCann (the chief executive of Celtic) made a joke about Belle and Sebastian winning a Brit (it was as part of a sketch about Jim Kerr of Simple Minds buying Celtic, it was a crap sketch, crap joke, BUT it was a fairly unlikely place to hear a reference to Belle and Sebastian). Alix, can I suggest that you go onto Countdown and *win* a rather attractive teapot? I could do it for you if you like, as I am a student and officially have nothing to do in the afternoons except watch gameshows (oh and be pretentious about my coursework of course). I've even started watching Wheel of Fortune, and actually lasted ten whole minutes of Through the Keyhole the other day (it was bald snooker genius and friend of Gary Lineker, Mr Willie Thorne, and my house is a lot nicer than his, well I think so anyway). Finally, after reading everyone's Belle and Sebastian dreams for so many months and thinking I would never have one myself, last night the (almost) unthinkable happened. I can't remember any of my dreams ever (except one where I was Steve McManaman which is a bit alarming) so I can't tell you what the dream was about, but I do clearly remember the name Tim Hopkins being quite prominent in whatever it was, and it was the first thought I had when I woke up. This is highly bizarre as I have never met Mr Hopkins in my life. I'm all scared now... Apologies for the Brit-centredness of every reference in this mail, I shall try to be more cosmopolitan next time. In four weeks from now I will be at Camber Sands :), I am getting more than a little excited. I read in the NME that Belle and Sebastian would be playing the Sunday night, but perhaps we could force them to change their minds so that nobody flying back early will miss them? Ailsa xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sat Mar 27 16:17:11 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 08:17:11 PST Subject: Sinister: long nights,short skirts,high heels Message-ID: <19990327161713.16466.qmail@hotmail.com> i dont know about you but I can sure spot out a belle and sebastian fan...they wander the streets,aimlessly, wearing fishnet stockings,little satin shorties and a smile! ....i`d much rather be in elementary...sure the teen years on tv look great,all these girls in billowy dresses running around in the grass with their true loves in a nice summery time,by the river side and ooh all the changes and lessons..,but lets face it...we cant turn back time,and pleasant reminiscing..good,but if thats all youll do,then youll miss out on your whole life right NOW thinking about the past.. oh you know how you were talking about there should be more older women with younger guys...ive had my own experience,this is a real diary entry,im only bringing this up because we have to do interior monologues so im using old notes and letters... september 14,1995 ....i dont want to go out with anyone in my grade,i like a grade 7 boy! this one guy is nice but so academically deprived-- no i want a cute guy who worships me--talk to all his friends about the grade 8 hes going out with.That would shock my friends...i`m not a girl,I`m a Coda Warrior!... i laugh and snort at myself today..oh dear,coda warriors...anyways,i just want to be in bowling festival! really,you who are all going have no idea how insanely jealous i am...the longing,oh the LONGING! the unquenchable want! my god stuart gardiner,i think YOU would look fantastic in my prom dress..well maybe even better in a tux. pleeze help me! i have to do a documentary..on what? belle & sebastian you say..you never know,do you think it could work...any ideas or suggestions...my mom said to do it on The Life In A Cubicle...but my first choice was to do it on The Elohim and Rael. (seriously,it would be fun! a little strange but interesting yes yes you think?)Please....ANY IDEAS..whatever..help how come everyone,their cousin and THEIR DOG has met Mister David...Is Looper album really really really that good? ooh..i want to,but 38 dollars,i don`t think i love anyone that much..for 38 dollars,stuart david should have to fly over he,remove his clothing,dance the dance of the seven veils and whistle to the tune of Go Tell It On The Mountain...purely for arts sake,of course.>some girl,who i have no idea is,just sent me this email,i`m not making it up i swear..(well maybe just one)..sadly they didnt have the definition of `stuarts` or `stevens` Watch out for them Micks though! salut! genevieve >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris's- are adorable and have lots of different >>>>>friends > >honeys- are sexy booty shakin mofos >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michale's-are hot and sexy babes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike's- are very good looking but they'll do >anything >>>>>>with >>>>>>>>>>>>anyone > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SEND THIS TO 10 GIRLS IN 10 MINUTES AND YOU'LL HAVE >>>>GOOD >>>>>>>>>LUCK >>>>>>>>>>>>IN >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LOVE .SO COME ON JUST DO IT. IF YOU DON'T YOU'LL NEVER >>>GET >>>>>A >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BOYFRIEND >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>AGAIN!! > >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lost_madflowr at xxx.com Sat Mar 27 20:44:18 1999 From: lost_madflowr at xxx.com (lost madflowr) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 12:44:18 PST Subject: Sinister: SFA at the Black Cat in DC this wednesday Message-ID: <19990327204418.67596.qmail@hotmail.com> yo! is anyone gonna be at this show? i'm definitely there. prolly wearing a radiohead tee shirt. hmm or maybe a b+s one if anyone from sinister is gonna be there as well? i've met a few sinisterites and lost touch with all of them somehow. anyways, get in contact with me if you'll be at the SFA show or Asian Dub Foundation in april at the black cat. anyways. blah! :) evol madflowr Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.EDU Sun Mar 28 09:08:21 1999 From: ynoh at xxx.EDU (Youn Jong Noh) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 00:08:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: "schoolyard sexual politics" In-Reply-To: <185c41c.36fbadfc@aol.com> Message-ID: > Indeed, you don't have to look like anything or anyone to be a Belle and > Sebastian fan. There should be an overemphasis on the music and not on a Right on, Carrie! (with email you can say things that normally never come out of your mouth) > Smiths fan. I've never heard the similarities in the music, but understand a > common quality in both bands' essence. They make us feel special and cause On one of the Smiths web sites, it says Belle & Sebastian performed "Reel Around the Fountain"? Did anyone on the list witness this? How was it for you? I was thinking I would like to drop out of school and work for CDNow coming up with the "Album Advisor Recommends..." but I just realized that they must do it all by sales records...How silly of me. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Sun Mar 28 14:06:22 1999 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 13:06:22 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: raindrops on roses and teapots in windows Message-ID: it's funny, no matter how many times i type 'sinister' i still keep getting it wrong. it must be one the easiest words to mistype ever (character is also tricky i find). but maybe this is just because of my own personal style of typing, ie. quite quickly but incredibly inefficiently with two fingers. alix, i have a teapot story to share. i was sitting in a cafe (owned by someone i know slightly) and was just admiring the teapot collection which they had arranged on the window sill. i was particularly taken with an orange one with flowers on, and the owner noticed and promptly gave it to me. now how often do you get given teapots in cafes? not that often, i would say, which is why i suppose i can't really recommend this way of acquiring said items, but still, it made my day. there could almost be a b&s song about it. 'the girl with the teapot in her sainsburys carrier bag'. you know, it's *not* just the music press who put labels on fans. fans do it themselves too, you can't pretend otherwise. and yes, perhaps we should 'get used to it', but it just seems sad that sometimes people can only feel good about themselves by attaching themselves to a band, a look, a proscribed lifestyle. (naturally i don't include the universally well-balanced sinisterines here...) oh, it's so lovely that someone's getting married! yuk, that sounded a bit gushy, but i just think it's nice. probably since all my friends think i'm going to be a bitter old maid due to foolish things i said in my youth (well, last week probably.) i haven't dared to do a public u-turn, drop my feminist stance and confess that i've been looking longingly at wedding dresses. i expect it's because it's spring. anyway, music: perhaps 'my wandering days are over' would be appropriate? although overall it's not particularly cheery i suppose. right, i'm off on holiday for a bit. see ya. (perhaps in the flesh at a picnic, who knows? i'll be the one not wearing indie glasses etc...) luv archel xxx ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ***** do something pretty while you can don't be afraid skating a pirouette on ice is cool - belle and sebastian -------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atremp at xxx.be Sun Mar 28 14:12:56 1999 From: atremp at xxx.be (Annie Tremp) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 15:12:56 +0200 Subject: Sinister: time Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990328151256.007a1070@mach.vub.ac.be> hello we just changed to summer hour here tonight, so for the moment it's the same 'time' over here (belgium) as it is in the uk. i have no idea when it's gonna change over there. i know it's not of any importance but it made me think about how stupid our idea of time is... well, mine anyway... enjoy as much of it as you can... xo, annie i went to a concert yesterday (the manics) and the dj played 'ease your feet in the sea' before they started, it made me feel all warm inside... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atremp at xxx.be Sun Mar 28 16:19:23 1999 From: atremp at xxx.be (Annie Tremp) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 17:19:23 +0200 Subject: Sinister: the bbc made me do it... Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990328171923.007a5cc0@mach.vub.ac.be> ahum... as someone has already let me know i made a small mistake when saying that right now the time over here was the same as in the uk. but i blame the bbc for making me look like a total fool... as they only changed to the correct time (on the teletext) this afternoon, making me think this morning that "hey, how weird! it's just as late over there too!". 'mille excuses' for breaking the no-more-than-one-mail-a-day rule, and making those two as boring too, annie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sun Mar 28 17:01:16 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 08:01:16 PST Subject: Sinister: stay in school/NY picnic Message-ID: <19990328160117.772.qmail@hotmail.com> ...no no NO, don`t drop out of school,bad bad bad idea,to the person who was pondering it...ok,that was my little thing Outreach To Youth. those things are funny..the dont do drugs commericals? some of them are quite scary..but the ones with this little nerd,his pants pulled up to his chest.. at a party and these evil,gloomy 10 feet tall jocks glowering at him to `spark another owl` and the little one suddenly hallucinates his parents there, going "Billy...no....we love..you" and suddenly he leaves the party,with a gorgeous babe. You`re all talking about picnics! I think there should be a New York picnic in July. Oh have loads of them all together,but July for sure. How many ny people are there anyways? I think we should all play baseball...have any of you seen Switchblade Sisters? we can have 2 teams...`The Dagger Debs` vs `The Silver Daggers` yes!! i want to work in a pub. no one has offered suggestions for my documentary,i`m serious people! i`m dying out here! "I remember in the Good Ol Days" whenever you had trouble with homework,just ask for suggestions on sinister,and youd get like a dozen replies.Maybe its my subject lines? my subject lines usually never have anything to do with what im actually going on ab out..so maybe thats why,they just skip them. ok..c`est beau. much love, Gunther i wont bite... hard! (oh YOU..BEhave.) 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sun Mar 28 20:57:46 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 14:57:46 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Careful With That Axe, Dave Message-ID: <199903281457_MC2-6FBD-BCA1@compuserve.com> Hi (nearly) Easter Bunnies, Aaaaww, TweeHouse: Went to the Improv Theatre Thursday evening to see the Looper Son et Lumiere experience. Music really good, pictures very clever, between songs jokes by Stephen Hawkinge OK. Audience behavoiur a bit strange, most of them spending the evening cross-legged on the floor looking like students listening to music whilst watching TV with the sound turned off. Shades of Shepherds Bush as well, as there was even a bit of shushing! Hope Camber Sads isn't going to be too reverential :)Does anybody know the name of the new one about Stuart dreaming that he had written a hit song for Elvis (who else!) until his missus hits him on the head with a rolled up newspaper? We didn't get to speak to Doctor David & Mr Pish figure Stuart David, so don't feel too bad about it Genevieve. Actually I don't think you'll get much of a look in with your Scots fantasy figure anyway, seeing as the only time he lifted his head up all night was to turn it round to sing the whole of "Quiet & Small" looking lovingly at Wee Karn sat at the side of the stage. Bowlie Balls: Don't know when B&S are playing at Camber, but did manage to glean from David & Katrina that the events kick off at 7pm on Friday night with V-Twin, followed by The Delgados. That Subject? You lot went on about David Gilmour so much recently I've been re-living my childhood listening to Meddle & Atom Heart Mother. I'll have to dust off Umma Gumma next. "One Of These Days" sure is a banging choon. Off to do the ironing, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eliam at xxx.edu Sun Mar 28 22:40:57 1999 From: eliam at xxx.edu (Marie Elia) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 99 16:40:57 -0500 Subject: Sinister: bunch of loopers. Message-ID: <199903282133.QAA09711@pellns.alleg.edu> *sigh* i just got back from london... what can i say? i'm in love. the highlight of the week had to be the looper gig, although sadly i had no access to email while in london last week (the price to pay for sleeping on the floors of people you only vaguely know), so i did not hear of any meet up. my friend brendan and i wandered about for a long time on the street where the theatre was, and then we found it (it is small!), and then we waited on line to pick up our tix. as we were standing there, brendan tugged on my sleeve and nodded toward something. it was stuart and karn, brushing past us up the stairs. once we got into the theatre, i was a bit confused b/c it was so small, and really a comedy club. eventually we shyly joined the hipster kids sitting crosslegged on the floor. it DID feel a bit like watching tv, and we were, i suppose -- 5 of them, and 3 projection screens. the show was amazing, i thought. i'd only listened to the album twice, and the performance sounded pretty much like the album, but the visuals definitely made it... they opened up with spaceboydream, which was a nice surprise. after the show, i thought i'd pick up a looper tshirt or badge or something, but there was a line, and all those cool-looking kids scared me a bit, so we just up and left and got some really late dinner, as i hadn't eaten all day.... i wondered if there were any sinisterites there, but i didn't know how to tell...... oddly enough, the next night i had my first b&s dream, but it isn't anything to write home about (or write sinister about, i suppose!) i think it was a result of that strange Time Out article, where it mentions about isobel getting sick. because in the dream i was supposed to sub in for her, but i picked up the cello (well, i guess one doesn't actually Pick Up a cello, but...) and i couldn't play it... ah, well.... okay, kids. take care. marie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From troyh at xxx.com Sun Mar 28 23:06:57 1999 From: troyh at xxx.com (Troy Hakala (Exchange)) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 14:06:57 -0800 Subject: Sinister: bunch of loopers. Message-ID: Ok, no one answered my last post about London but I'll try something new (but related).... Surely there are people on this list who live in London. I'm going to be in London April 2-6 with my girlfriend (already got tix for the Gentle Waves show on April 4), but not being especially religious, didn't realize that that weekend is Easter weekend. So... is all of London closed on Easter weekend? What does everyone suggest to do in London besides eat Indian food and drink the world's best beer? Anything interesting going on that weekend? Any recommended restaurants or pubs? Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Marie Elia [mailto:eliam at xxx.edu] Sent: Sunday, March 28, 1999 1:41 PM To: sinister at Majordomo.net Subject: Sinister: bunch of loopers. *sigh* i just got back from london... what can i say? i'm in love. the highlight of the week had to be the looper gig, although sadly i had no access to email while in london last week (the price to pay for sleeping on the floors of people you only vaguely know), so i did not hear of any meet up. my friend brendan and i wandered about for a long time on the street where the theatre was, and then we found it (it is small!), and then we waited on line to pick up our tix. as we were standing there, brendan tugged on my sleeve and nodded toward something. it was stuart and karn, brushing past us up the stairs. once we got into the theatre, i was a bit confused b/c it was so small, and really a comedy club. eventually we shyly joined the hipster kids sitting crosslegged on the floor. it DID feel a bit like watching tv, and we were, i suppose -- 5 of them, and 3 projection screens. the show was amazing, i thought. i'd only listened to the album twice, and the performance sounded pretty much like the album, but the visuals definitely made it... they opened up with spaceboydream, which was a nice surprise. after the show, i thought i'd pick up a looper tshirt or badge or something, but there was a line, and all those cool-looking kids scared me a bit, so we just up and left and got some really late dinner, as i hadn't eaten all day.... i wondered if there were any sinisterites there, but i didn't know how to tell...... oddly enough, the next night i had my first b&s dream, but it isn't anything to write home about (or write sinister about, i suppose!) i think it was a result of that strange Time Out article, where it mentions about isobel getting sick. because in the dream i was supposed to sub in for her, but i picked up the cello (well, i guess one doesn't actually Pick Up a cello, but...) and i couldn't play it... ah, well.... okay, kids. take care. marie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Sun Mar 28 23:23:16 1999 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 16:23:16 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: Re: Gay Mark, we don't want to know... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: John wrote: >>> to adjust to the returning boyfriend, findout where they met. Keep conducting this survey at all bars where you approach women who are not actually alone and post the results (hopefully they will not say that they met in the bar) <<< When the boyfriend wandered off for a moment, I did ask the young woman next to me if they came there together, or met there. They went there together. Personally, I have a strong suspicion that at least a few of the better candidates were home reading at the time. (Fluffy kitty-cat optional.) A few more were with friends -- And at some point in their conversations they wondered where to meet guys who are a good match for my description. As an old friend wisely said, I don't stand a chance because neither of us would have enough nerve to break through the other's shield. For example: I sat in the bookstore with a cappuccino large enough to keep a horse awake for 3 days, reading William Burroughs. Most every time I look up, the pretty, chilly, red-haired girl is looking at me. Haven't tried to talk to her for a while. She doesn't make it easy. On the way out, I say "Your name is {so-and-so}, right?" "Yeah", she says, in a tone I don't know how to interpret and cannot assimilate. Time to bail out. "Just checking my memory....good night". And I do have to wonder, are we fighting the same battle, or does she stare for the same reason one becomes fascinated with a car wreck? WSB writes that if you see people first, generally speaking -they will not see you-. > On Sat, 27 Mar 1999, Mark Kolmar wrote: > > It's like this: Where do couples meet? > On Sat, 27 Mar 1999, Stuart Gardiner wrote: > Judging on previous form, at a Sinister picnic... (well I know at least > two ongoing couples who did!) Then Chicago-area listmembers need to arrange a meet-up. If you're in or near the area, get in touch. I'll post something later specifically about that idea. > The music press are always going to stereotype B&S fans as being all the > same, even though it's blatantly not true. Sensitive, yes, and a tad fragile at times. Cardigan sweaters are simply more -practical- than crew necks, in and out of the cold. And girls make me happy in the expected ways. Or as Momus wrote: "'The Homosexual' they call me It's all the same to me That spectre you projected I will now pretend to be Since your neurosis is what passes for normality It's okay with me if I'm queer Since your tone-deafness is called the love of music I won't disabuse you I'll make love with your woman I'll make her sing notes of pleasure That you will never hear Never in a million years No fucking fear" --Mark __ Burning Rome : SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 > Distributed by Dutch East India Trading, Com Four, and Carrot Top < < http://www.xnet.com/~mkolmar/BurningRome > < MP3 & RealAudio tracks > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Snowinsumr at xxx.com Sun Mar 28 23:34:03 1999 From: Snowinsumr at xxx.com (Snowinsumr at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 17:34:03 EST Subject: Sinister: "...she prefers the night to day..." Message-ID: dear "lofty thougts" diary... sundays...everyday is like sunday...a rush of memory and i'm out of breath...the kitten is tugging at the couch strings and making little noises :::scratch:::, :::scratch:::...strangely comforting...my stomach reels in anticipation as tonight i will have my first practice with my newly formed band...singer? i don't know if i will be able to...being filled with sinus-y goodness...yuck...but it should be fun...if not fun... then interesting... this is so short compared to everything i want to say...thoughts tugging me around by the short red hair...sigh...will the day ever cease to amaze me? i hope not... tripping on her stubbed toe. m.elise ps: listening to cinerama to remember kisses... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sanangel22 at xxx.com Sun Mar 28 23:45:30 1999 From: sanangel22 at xxx.com (Jarrod San Angel) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 14:45:30 PST Subject: Sinister: Pink Martini Message-ID: <19990328224531.7748.qmail@hotmail.com> Bon Jour * Guten Tag * Aloha * Assalam Alaikum * Merhaba * Buenas Dias A merry sunday to you all, fellow sinisterians.. here is my reccomendation du jour: Whence feeling a trifle burnt out listening to the limited catalogue of our heroes, Belle & Sebastian (wonderful as they are, after 10,000 spins, you start to long for new material - it happened with the Smiths & Morrissey - admit it!), may you find relief and passion in a new discovery I made not too long ago: a fabulous ensemble known as Pink Martini. Surely Portland, Oregon's finest musical offering, Pink Martini seamlessly intertwine all the very best sounds of salsa, lounge, cabaret, classical, romantic, and world traditions into their unique hybrid vision. The finished, polished result is an all too pleasing record called "Sympathique" that is certain to slap a mile wide smile across thine faces. I was lucky enough to catch 2 or their 3 sold out shows here in Los Angeles at the cozy supperclub, The Mint, where they dazzled a usually musically-jaded crowd - moving them to sway, dance, and rhumba the evening away. Too damn special. Loved it. And I will be the first to predict that their new album, due sometime later this year, will be a smash - thanks in part to a stunning, single worthy song entitled "Eugene," and a haunting, gorgeous piece sung in Croatian. Oh, by the way, for fellow cultrual and ethnic anthropologists and enthusiasts such as myself, Pink Martini are sure to delight, as the songs are sung in French, Spanish, Italian, Japanese, Portugese, Croatian, and yes, English. If ever this fine collection make their way to your city, by all means, break any plans you might have, and see them. You will not be dissapointed. JaRrOd SaN aNgEL Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sanangel22 at xxx.com Mon Mar 29 00:33:25 1999 From: sanangel22 at xxx.com (Jarrod San Angel) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 15:33:25 PST Subject: Sinister: Shopping List #1 Message-ID: <19990328233327.15181.qmail@hotmail.com> "I am so small, I am barely seen - how can this great love be inside me? Look at your eyes - they are small, but they see enormous things!" - Rumi So here is My 1st Ever Weekly List Of "Fine Music I Bought This Week:" (this can also serve as a list for those of you fickle shoppers who are not sure what to sample..) here they are, in no particular order 1. Lhasa - "La LLorona" Dark & stirring Spanish ehtnic sounds, folksy, rootsy, lovely expect to be bewitched 2. Smog - "Knock, Knock" More introspective low-fi from the master, Bill Callahan This new album has more of an up-tempo than previous smog albums; many feel it is his finest offering to date 3. Jason Faulkner - "Can You Still Feel.." hard edged, hook heavy, (but not at all zeppelinesque) pop rock. Kinda groovy. 4. The Nields - "Play" Much in the tradition of Belle & Sebastian, these folks weave pop, folk, rock, and even psychadelia into their music, infusing it with beautiful harmonies, and cathcy choruses.. sure to please 5. Erik Satie - "OEuvres for Piano" This eccentric, turn-of-the-century French composer has become somewhat of an obession of mine these past few weeks.. his is a mind & spirit that I find unequalled anywhere in the timelines of music history.. bizarre creativity run rampant. His 3 Gymnopedies, especially #1, is the soundtrack to my soul... some days.. 6. Momus - "Tender Pervert" Ah, Nick. "Nicholas, Don't Be So Ridiculous.." Momus represents rather baffling evidence that you can in fact be an undiscovered genius while spanning a career well over a decade long.. This album, in my humble opinion, should be in everyone's collection everywhere, and it is perhaps one of the most underrated (as is he) albums in recent memory.. The man was Morrissey before Morrissey was really Morrissey, if that makes any sense.. poetic, literate, passionate lyrics, rife with wit, wisdom, ambiguous - and sometimes very UNambiguous sexual tinges, and the keenest of all pop minds.. Momus is a Hero. 7. Pink Martini - "Sympathique" Among the best things I've stumbled across at me local record shoppe this past month. Brilliant. Take salsa, cabaret, classical, romantic, pop, lounge, and world traditions, shake well, and you'll have this wonderful cocktail we call Pink Martini. I have HIGH, APPLE PIE IN THE SKY HOPES for this ensemble. My heart is theirs. 8. Aterciopelados - "Caribe Atomico" Ultra cool riffs and grooves from Latin America's premiere pop/punk/folk rock band. Next to Cafe Tacuba, few can match wit with soul so effortlessly. Bilingual education not needed. Theirs is a sound catchy and solid enough to be appreciated by all. 9. Anything by Composer Bohaus Martinu My personal fave composer is Mozart. For me, there is no one greater in the history of music anywhere ever. That includes any genre. And all of the elements I love about Wolfie are found in this 20th century composer Martinu. Beauty, simplicity, passion, soulspeak. Give a listen. 10. The soundtrack to the film, "The Double Life of Veronique" Haunting original music by Zbigniew Preisner Preisner writes entirely chilling music that manages to affect even the most disaffected listener. Sure, it's a movie soundtrack - but this is a composer who could damn well be among the greatest of all living composers.. Track #4, this eerie chorale, stirs me to no end. 11. Rufus Wainright - self titled debut "April Fools" is on a loop in my head. Love it. 12. And um, something called "Looper." And speaking of loops - I just finally acquired Looper's debut. Not Bad. Not bad at all. I love the first cut, with the kiddies helping out. Laughed me little arse off first time around. But I must agree with, oh, was it the NME or Melody Maker, that said that The Ballad of Ray Suzuki is annoying.. it's psuedorave/techno/triphop caca.. it lacks the lustre, if you will, of the true techno "artist's" soul. I can't believe I just wrote that. Techno/rave=anathema. Yet I know good techno/rave when I hear it. Go figure. Anyway, the rest of the cd is aces. Still looking forward to The Gentle Waves. Can't seem to find it here stateside. OH, oh! Ya know what the Ray Suzuki song sounds like to me..? The soundtrack to a Volkswagen commecial.. can't you just see it? I can. Ah, well... There ya go, luvies J at rR*d Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From giita at xxx.com Mon Mar 29 00:49:32 1999 From: giita at xxx.com (Aileen Hammond) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 15:49:32 PST Subject: Sinister: Oh, the same old.... Message-ID: <19990328234932.827.qmail@hotmail.com> >In four weeks from now I will be at Camber Sands :), I am getting >more than a little excited. I read in the NME that Belle and >Sebastian would be playing the Sunday night, but perhaps we could >force them to change their minds so that nobody flying back early >will miss them? I�m one of tose people who will MISS B&S on the Sunday :( I will try and find Belle members and force them to play on Friday or Saturday instead! Sinisters: Help me on this mission! If you talk to a B&S member tell them to reschedule. :) Thanks.. @->-- Giita Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From s_daigle at xxx.com Mon Mar 29 02:29:00 1999 From: s_daigle at xxx.com (The Stoat) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 99 20:29:00 -0500 Subject: Sinister: at least that's what we say we are doing Message-ID: <199903290128.SAA23815@turtle.esosoft.net> Subject: at least that's what we say we are doing Sent: 3/28/99 8:43 AM To: Sinister Mailing List, sinister at Majordomo.net The cold rain puts spring off by one more day, at least. Guess I'll have a cup of tea. All this talk of teapots makes me think of my own blue willow pot. The woman who sold it to me seemed, by what she said as she was wrapping it up, to imply that somehow blue willow is an undesirable pattern in teapots. Although I've never heard anyone else disparage blue willow, she may be right. All I know is that it suits me. I like the little pagodas and the blue birds. This morning, as I woke from my dream of horses, I was wondering if any of you fellow sinisterines know if Stuart David's choice of the name "Treehouse" for his website is a reference to the Treehouse virtual reality site in Tad Williams' "Otherworld" books. And please don't be cross if this has been discussed before and I missed it. I searched the archives - I really did. andrew "What happened to you, man, you used to be so free, Now all you do is sit and dream" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From turkout at xxx.net Mon Mar 29 04:12:29 1999 From: turkout at xxx.net (Turk) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 22:12:29 -0500 Subject: Sinister: SFA at the Black Cat in DC this wednesday In-Reply-To: <19990327204418.67596.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: >yo! is anyone gonna be at this show? >i'm definitely there. prolly wearing >a radiohead tee shirt. hmm or maybe a >b+s one if anyone from sinister is >gonna be there as well? i've met a few >sinisterites and lost touch with all >of them somehow. anyways, get in contact >with me if you'll be at the SFA show or >Asian Dub Foundation in april at the >black cat. anyways. blah! :) speaking of going to shows - are there any north americans heading over to glastonbury? get your airfare soon - prices have tripled in the last 3 weeks - from dulles or BWI it is now $760 to heathrow or gatwick if anyone is going, let me know turk ___________ "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure." - Mark Twain +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rehakk at xxx.edu Mon Mar 29 08:39:11 1999 From: rehakk at xxx.edu (Kimberly Rehak) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 02:39:11 -0500 Subject: Sinister: more incoherence to sinister Message-ID: <002001be79b7$3d2d2f20$9e84c38d@rehakk.alleg.edu> hey lot! i'm back from my week or so long spring break. the first thing i did was turn on my puter (whom i call "queen of the hipsters" since i certainly am not that) and was greeted by, eh...about 115 messages. needless to say, i haven't gotten through all of them yet. the next thing i did was trek to the library, because i am, once again, in the midst of writing a ten page paper...this time about the augustan constitution. i started this evening at 11, it's quarter after two now so i should be done by 7 or so, if this all goes right. i'm actually having a race with the boy downstairs. if i win, i'd have raised so much esteem in my friends eyes. i finally got looper yesterday! see, i'm stuck without a credit card or any sort of transportation, so i was patient and waited. i think it was well worth the wait. "patience is a virtue" "patience pays off" ... yeecha yeecha last night i dragged my friend marie to this ska/semi-punk show at home. it was the first time i had been to a show since...august. what a draught! even though i am not that much older than everyone there (since my birthday is late in the year and i AM young), i FELT so much older than everyone. it definitely had to do with a maturity level. i kind of wish that i could make a fool out of myself dancing like a goof, yet i realize how i am acting and i refrain. kind of upsetting, but then kind of reassuring. so is there really a band called the shapiros?? there is this professor at my school with that last name. he's the regular "mad professor" kind of guy: circle sweat stains when it was hot, mad movements (the man doesn't stand still through his lecture), ludicrous hand movements, nose hair you could braid, two thick pairs of glasses he alternates between, saliva zooming everywhere. the man was a regular loon and i loved him. my friend pepe does a fab impression of him. so if you ever meet pepe ask him to do it for you...haha i got a couple of cds over break besides looper. a bis, a new komeda, a three volume "the history of ska" (to play on my radio show), the xo elliot smith one, cornelius [thanks to fred's recommendation], an old beck single, the new built to spill, and about five or so others. i'm rather pleased, nonetheless. i think i may be getting behind in my paper race, so i must leave you. was there b&s content in here? besides looper, no. ooo, i have a story to add with some content: at the ska/semi-punk show last night marie wore her "stow college" shirt. we were going to ask the band to take a pool and ask who else were fans of our beloveds. but we were to shy so refrained from doing so. would have been a brilliant plan though. speaking of polls, if anyone would care to help me with mine, just answer this question for me (and to me privately, of course): sarah michelle gellar: YES OR NO? so far i've compiled 7 yes's and 3 no's byebye kisskiss KIMberly *do something pretty while you can. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From richard.connell at xxx.com Mon Mar 29 09:30:34 1999 From: richard.connell at xxx.com (Richard Connell) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 09:30:34 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: sinister: cobbled together ill-thought out nonsense In-Reply-To: <002001be79b7$3d2d2f20$9e84c38d@rehakk.alleg.edu> Message-ID: <4134300929031999/A02459/ADVAX1/11D3EA5E1300*@MHS> Hi, This post does exactly what it says on the tin so anyone who doesnt want to hear the idle ramblings of someone bored at work i'll direct you to the delete button. listened to twatbass yesterday and read the lyric along with it and noticed some of those misheard thingies that were going around a while ago. In dirty dream where it says 'could you put a face to someone elses eyes' i thought it said 'put your foot or face in someone elses eye'. No, i have no idea what that means either. On a less stupid but more grammatically inept note at the beginning of seymour stein i thought it said 'caught a glimpse of someones face, it reminded i'd be crying'. Someone mentioned satie and gymnoperdie, glad to see some class returning to the list. A more beutiful collection of notes has never been assembled. Someone else mentioned ver floyd. Its probably just me but since i stopped taking drugs the whole point of pink and the boys escapes me. Drugs are bad, m'kay. Has anyone got the black box recorder album? One song on it must go down as the oddest cover version in history. Listening to some posh white english woman sing uptown top ranking to a scary tricky-ish backdrop is a strange thing indeed, like hearing sophie rhys jones being interviewed on tv and bigging up the kensington massive. On a final note, just found out that Isaac Hayes is a scientologist. A very unsexy religion for the king of sweet love by the fireplace type music. How can you trust a religion founded by a science fiction author? Its like believing in a religion founded by a car salesman, total redemption in 30 days or your money back! 1 years free rosary insurance, 2 years free hail mary insurance and a free 'jesus wants me for an oven glove' badge! I think thats more than enough to keep you all thinking for a while, even if all you're thinking is 'yeah, and?' Goodnight and may your god go with you, Rich ps anyone hear song 2 played on the simpsons last night. Woohoo indeed! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MARTIN_CONNEELY at xxx.ie Mon Mar 29 12:26:27 1999 From: MARTIN_CONNEELY at xxx.ie (MARTIN_CONNEELY at xxx.ie) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 12:26:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Zippo Message-ID: <80256743.0037F2FE.00@finance.irlgov.ie> 1. Ari wrote: <> And it makes a right mess of one's trousers if not put out in time. Struan's "silver" trousers were probably a fireproof protection. And did an overenthusiastic fly burning session turn Honey into a Honey? And maybe what Sarah smelt off Stuart D was petrol, not pish. That song explains a lot. No wonder most of the rest of the band ran off with Isobel to put lyrics to an old Buddy Holly tune. And why Wee Karn doesn't wear trousers. 2. If Mr Miller's mails don't get less hilarious, I'll have to stop reading the digest at work. Martin C +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Mar 29 12:55:00 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 13:55:00 +0200 Subject: Sinister: No Jugs To Speak Of Message-ID: <01be79da$f993d880$LocalHost@itjfvkli> The bus fares went up by five pesetas here a few weeks ago. I had mixed feelings about it, because it's a nice round two hundred pesetas now, instead of the more unmanageable one hundred and ninety-five pesetas that it cost before. I didn't think it was worth mentioning at the time, but seeing as transport costs are reportedly the new rock'n'roll, I didn't want to be considered square or anything. Is anyone who was quoted at the end of "Young and Foolish" going to Betty Trotwood's Pub beofre the Camber sands do? If so, perhaps they could do a kind of spoken word duet with the Duke, thus pushing back the boundaries of popular entertainment even further. Am I the first person on the list to have had a dream about The Visitors (apart from Tim)? I had to do a Gram Parsons duet with Tim, but just before it was time to go on, I realised that I didn't know the words, so I hid in the bogs, where there was a massive jobby that hadn't been flushed away properly. The reason I'm reminded of the e-mail section of the Good Book is because I'm about to disagree with Stuart G, who wrote: The music press are always going to stereotype B&S fans as being all the same, even though it's blatantly not true. It's the same as the way they make up genres and subgenres to describe what a band sound like, and lump in with them other bands who sound completely different. It's just lazy journalism. Get used to it... Hmmm, well, yes, BUT...I think it might be lazy journalism to call lazy journalism lazy journalism. After all, they are only giving the public what they want, and "Belle and Sebastian fans are like any other fans really" isn't a good enough story, people would FLEE to rival publications, where they can find their desired diet of dross and dromedary dung. B-sides, that Time Out article was based mainly around an interview of sorts with Beepster Records, who seem to have decided that it's more "fun" to play on all the myths and nonsense surrounding the band, a bit like Alan McGee with Oasis, only more polite and less shagging and fighting and sticking two fingers up. I think it was a rubbish article, full of fibs and clap-trap, but I enjoyed reading it, so thanks to whoever sent it in. Don't want another Melonballs incident, do we? Yesterday I went to a cat show and it was full of fur-fondling freaks. Record fairs are tame in comparison. I've got "Show Case" by Jackie Mittoo. I recently suggested that "The Roulette Story" was perhaps a little sub-standard. I was a bloody fool, it's great. Can't wait for THE GENUFLECTING WEEBLES album, THE GREEN FIELDS OF FLOELLABENJAMINLAND. Petrol prices go up on April 1st, so FILL UP beforehand, or be square. Sister Disco Get Your Private, Free Email +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From twinkle at xxx.net Mon Mar 29 13:50:04 1999 From: twinkle at xxx.net (petula) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 12:50:04 GMT Subject: Sinister: cobbled Scientology Message-ID: <199903291250.MAA22815@trapdoor.aracnet.net> My god, I'm actually posting. :) At 09:30 AM 3/29/1999 +0100, Richard Connell wrote: >On a final note, just found out that Isaac Hayes is a scientologist. A >very unsexy religion for the king of sweet love by the fireplace type >music. How can you trust a religion founded by a science fiction >author? Its like believing in a religion founded by a car salesman, >total redemption in 30 days or your money back! 1 years free rosary >insurance, 2 years free hail mary insurance and a free 'jesus wants me >for an oven glove' badge! This reminded me of a conversation we had with my friend's boyfriend at the pub, the Duke of Gloucester. A 2nd floor establishment, you couldn't miss the glaringly bright Scientology building across the road (complete with a Big Brother cafe on the ground level!!), so it came up in conversation. He claimed that it's just a huge tax write-off for the stars, and the only reason they get involved. So I suppose they pump their money in and it comes back to them as some sort of massive tax return. Perhaps the Gentle Waves should consider that option once they make millions. elisabeth xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ailsa at xxx.com Mon Mar 29 14:36:32 1999 From: ailsa at xxx.com (Ailsa Ross) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 05:36:32 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Glasgow Gentle Waves gig picnic Message-ID: Some of the more observant of you British ones might have noticed that it is officially summer now (the sun is even shining in Paisley). So in order to celebrate this, and in a pathetic attempt to relive my childhood April Saturdays, I am pleased to announce the start of the plan for the first Glasgow picnic of the year on the day of the Gentle Waves gig (April 10) venue and time to be decided depending on convenience to others, but I thought about 1 o'clock in Kelvingrove park or a nearby pub first of all while we decide about the weather and its suitability for picnicking. This idea was first mooted by me on http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/cgi-bin/mboard/belle/thread.cgi?104,0 so from now on can all discussions go there or directly to me so as not to annoy the people on the list who aren't going to this. Basically the discussions are to think of a suitable pub... Finally, a little plea for people I have lost touch with...if any of you are speaking to Calumn Shearer, can you tell him my email has changed (I don't think his is working at the moment and I have no other way of getting in touch with him). And do any of you who were at the Maryhill gigs last year know an Irish medical student by the name of Iain? He got me my ticket for the second night and I sat with him and some other people, who I believe are on Sinister (I wasn't on Sinister then, so I don't know this for certain). I have lost his phone no and I don't know if he is on the list or not, but he was at the Glasgow picnic last year and I haven't seen him since I moved house. Can someone get him to email me please, or to turn up at the picnic if he isn't at home for Easter. Or give me his phone number. Cheers, sorry to all of you to whom this was totally irrelevant. Ailsa xx *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Mon Mar 29 14:46:42 1999 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 14:46:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Glasgow Gentle Waves gig picnic In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001be79ea$941ed7b0$4e0129c2@sun.QSS> > So in order to celebrate this, and in a pathetic attempt to > relive my childhood April Saturdays, I am pleased to announce the > start of the plan for the first Glasgow picnic of the year on the > day of the Gentle Waves gig (April 10) venue and time to be > decided depending on convenience to others, but I thought about 1 > o'clock in Kelvingrove park or a nearby pub first of all while we > decide about the weather and its suitability for picnicking. Yes OK let's do Kelvingrove park. We all stood in the rain last year anyway when we did it at the Botanics. Meet at the bandstand at 1 o'clock say on the Saturday? Hope all the last years lot turn up too. Take care, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Mon Mar 29 14:55:30 1999 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Fluffy Sarah) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 14:55:30 +0100 Subject: Sinister: mechanical scales are all round family favourites In-Reply-To: <01be79da$f993d880$LocalHost@itjfvkli> References: <01be79da$f993d880$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Message-ID: Hiya! Well I went to the post office today and found a completely pretentious magazine called sleazenation hiding behind Womans Weekly! That cheered me up, so I had to buy it. Has anyone else read it??? Its so funny! Every other page is a Levis advert, they have an article on bathroom scales and Salako are namechecked as well! "noel fielding is a Pop Boutique boy, all flared jeans and tight tops amd Mott the hoople hair. He's good looking and cheeky and looks like he should be in a shambolic glittery indie band like Salako or something" (salako, more than just a band, but a fashion accesory, a musical hairclip. ah the fenomeno de londres even though I bet I've not even got the spanish for phenomenon right. Its hard enough spelling it in english...) But they seem to like add n to (x)...well of course they would. They've got an article on the Olivia Tremor Control! Wahey! But they actually talk about "places where chips are commonly eaten" in a disdaining tone...and also say WE SCAN THE GLOBE FOR NEW MUSIC! And found this London based record label need I say more HEM HEM. And they have agig guide to Paris? I'm quite happy, burning pies.... well you see pies have lots of calories= lots of energy = equals a nice strong healthy flame. Who wouldn't be happy burning pies? DOH! Not another comedy mishearing! Jarrod San Angle, do you write for a small magazine which no-one ever buys? I'll tell you what record I bought recently...NO I WON'T cos I haven't bought any. But I've been listening to Dr Strangely Strange. And I've heard the B-52s covering Downtown...which I'm glad I heard but has left me rather worried...and this is completely changing the subject but are't GOMEZ utterly and COMPLETELY CURMONDEGEONLY???? Miller: >THE GENUFLECTING WEEBLES album, THE GREEN FIELDS OF >FLOELLABENJAMINLAND. You're not living in Spain, you're living in the UK, and you've been doing exactly what I've just been doing - which is watching NO OTHER THAN the incredible Floella Benjamin exchange banter with Bob Monkhouse on Celebrity Wipeout!!! I coudln't believe it, seeing Floella Benjamin without dungarees...crazy man, crazy. I love her! enough - I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Sarah +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.EDU Mon Mar 29 21:52:44 1999 From: ynoh at xxx.EDU (Youn Jong Noh) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 12:52:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: Could anyone on the list answer a quick question for me? Somewhere I remember reading about how Stuart - before he was loved and adored by all of us - went to London (as a final act of desperation?) to find and then meet someone he admired. Does anyone recall who that was? Laurence of Felt? (I think the story is very moving.) You know, there is much pleasure to be had in singing Belle & Sebastian lyrics that have a really catchy melody but that are strangely atypical and complex. For example - "The Asian man/With his love hate affair/With his racist clientele". (I thought I was the only one who felt this way, but I saw the exact same lines mentioned in the same context in a review.) And these lines I think could be reversible - the sort which singers change on you in live performances - "We know you are soft cause we've all seen you dancing" & "We know you are hard cause we all you saw you drinking from noon/Until noon again". Also, I have a request of French native speakers on the list. I'm writing something on a topic in French linguistics and I was wondering if you could send me (ynoh at leland.stanford.edu) via email as an attachment (MS Word documents please) things that you have written for school (les essaies, les redactions, etc). I apologize for making this request on the list, but this is the only "international" forum to which I have access. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnk at xxx.gr Mon Mar 29 22:03:42 1999 From: johnk at xxx.gr (John Koliopanos) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 00:03:42 +0300 Subject: Sinister: Re: References: Message-ID: <36FFEAAD.1FEE9AE9@flash.gr> Yes, that was about Lawrence . . . John, who liked the story too. Youn Jong Noh wrote: > Could anyone on the list answer a quick question for me? > Somewhere I remember reading about how Stuart - before he was loved and > adored by all of us - went to London (as a final act of desperation?) to > find and then meet someone he admired. Does anyone recall who that was? > Laurence of Felt? (I think the story is very moving.) > > You know, there is much pleasure to be had in singing Belle & Sebastian > lyrics that have a really catchy melody but that are strangely atypical > and complex. For example - "The Asian man/With his love hate affair/With > his racist clientele". (I thought I was the only one who felt this way, > but I saw the exact same lines mentioned in the same context in a > review.) And these lines I think could be reversible - the sort which > singers change on you in live performances - "We know you are soft cause > we've all seen you dancing" & "We know you are hard cause we all you saw > you drinking from noon/Until noon again". > > Also, I have a request of French native speakers on the list. I'm writing > something on a topic in French linguistics and I was wondering if you > could send me (ynoh at leland.stanford.edu) via email as an attachment (MS > Word documents please) things that you have written for school (les > essaies, les redactions, etc). I apologize for making this request on the > list, but this is the only "international" forum to which I have access. > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ > +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ussher at xxx.ca Mon Mar 29 22:20:54 1999 From: ussher at xxx.ca (allen) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 14:20:54 -0700 (MST) Subject: Sinister: atypical but lovely In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 29 Mar 1999, Youn Jong Noh wrote: > You know, there is much pleasure to be had in singing Belle & Sebastian > lyrics that have a really catchy melody but that are strangely atypical > and complex. For example - "The Asian man/With his love hate affair/With > his racist clientele". (I thought I was the only one who felt this way, > but I saw the exact same lines mentioned in the same context in a > review.) And these lines I think could be reversible - the sort which > singers change on you in live performances - "We know you are soft cause > we've all seen you dancing" & "We know you are hard cause we all you saw > you drinking from noon/Until noon again". I'm in 100% agreement with you here. I think that (atypical melodies) is one of the many reasons why the music is so infectious. I found when I first heard lines like "The Asian man.." that I thought it seemed like a rather odd and awkward line to sing but after repeated listens, it just felt right. :-) Also another good example is "Ease Your Feet Into The Sea" (which is turning into my favourite song to sing along to). The melody seems to go places you don't initially expect but seem to really enjoy after repeated listens -- especially the lines "But their eyes would pass over you Over you/Who's seeing you at all?/Who's seeing You at all?" allen ussher -- "Long afloat on shipless oceans I did all my best to smile Till your singing eyes and fingers Drew me loving to your isle." -- Song to the Siren, Tim Buckley. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood Mon Mar 29 18:52:26 1999 From: Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood (Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood) Date: 29 Mar 1999 17:52:26 GMT Subject: Sinister: Re: Bowlie Message-ID: <61438.121570672@andyclin.exnet.com> Hi, All! Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but it may interest some of you! I've been let down by people who I've ordered Bowlie Tickets for, and am stuck with 2 or 3 spares. Trouble is, the tickets can only be picked up at the Fest, and so I need to find people preferably in the South West (UK!) so we can travel up & arrive together. It all sounds very complicted, with Chalet deposits to pay and 2 forms of ID required! Anyone with any suggestions mail me at address below! Got both Looper and Gentle Waves LPs last week. Both are great, though I suppose not as good as a proper new B&S LP would be. I guess judging by the last LP, it may be a long wait! John Peel played "Columbo's Car" last week as his favourite off the LP. Anyone know if B&S are doing any warm up gigs for the Bowlie? Cheers! Rocker, P.S. My mate mis-read the NME and thought that David Bowie was headlining the Fest. rocker at andyclin.exnet.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Mon Mar 29 23:07:20 1999 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen - jeepster) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 23:07:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: a little happening in london this coming sunday Message-ID: <36FFF998.B8F3ACEB@jeepster.co.uk> the glorious sun on saturday inspired us and since the weather seems permitting, a picnic has been planned for this sunday (easter sunday) in london. why? well, apart from keeping with tradition (belle and sebastian picnics ran throughout the summer last year, and before that i was helping run picnics for the three previous years for a nightclub i worked for) we've noticed that a lot of new people have surfaced on the mailing lists and websites recently, so it would be nice to get together and have some preliminary introductions and a hell of a lot of fun. we'll also be using this as a general meet before the london gentle waves gig, as previously mentioned the gentle waves is going to feature six eigths of belle and sebastian, so we expect a lot of you will be around london that day. what will happen? well, we'll play football, board games, drink, eat, have a good laugh, resurrect some old games (stuck in the mud is always pretty damn hilarious), and generally have a bloody good time. we'll also be giving away some tickets for the gentle waves gig that night, some copies of the weathershow 7", i'm not sure how, maybe we'll have a connect 4 league (jeepster staff are excluded!) or something. who can attend? everyone, anyone, friends even, no-one has to like belle and sebastian, or even be of a similiar age group to the rest of us. that's not the point. the point is to meet people who you might have met on-line, off-line, to give friendships a chance with people you might not have normally talked to. the common thread is that we all share the same interests and that gives us a good chance of getting along well. and since this is the first proper meet in london since the whole brit palaver, i'm sure we'll have a pretty celebratory tone to the whole affair. where is it? it'll be held at the traditional spot of primrose hill, simply head to camden town tube station and wait outside at 3pm and we'll all walk up to the hill together. if you know where the hill is, just meet us on the summit at around 3:30pm. we'll probably move to a pub at dusk and from there onto the gentle waves gig :) what should i bring? well we ask everyone to donate a bit of food to the kitty. this helps create quite a feast whilst at the same time being cheap for everyone. if you're unsure what to bring, think along the lines of pringles and dips, veggie sausage rolls, pasta salad, fairy cakes, etc. we'll provide all the plastic cutlery, plates and a few cups along with some cadburys creme eggs (well, it IS easter!). if anyone has any questions not answered by the above, simply mail me, i'll be pleased to help, but note that there may be a small delay (1 day) in replying since we're moving office this week and my e-mail is at home :) cheers, and see you all there :) david ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk WE ARE MOVING, NEW ADDRESS: PO BOX 14153, LONDON SW11 4XU, UK to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From asbuch at xxx.edu Tue Mar 30 02:00:06 1999 From: asbuch at xxx.edu (Heather Marie Propes) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 19:00:06 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: Gay Mark, we don't want to know... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 27 Mar 1999, Stuart Gardiner wrote: > The music press are always going to stereotype B&S fans as being all the > same, even though it's blatantly not true. It's the same as the way they > make up genres and subgenres to describe what a band sound like, and lump > in with them other bands who sound completely different. It's just lazy > journalism. Get used to it... How are they supposed to be? > > For those of you who weren't on the list last summer, picnics were held > every few weeks in London and elsewhere around the world. Everyone is > invited (40+ people is not unheard of...), all you have to do is bring a > bit of food. We then spend the afternoon meeting new people, chatting, > drinking (normally well into the evening), playing football / twister / > frisbee / whatever else anyone brings along, and rescuing kites from > lampposts. And then progress to the pub later on. And there's always the > possibility that you could end up lying on the ground in a park somewhere > in South East London at 4am singing B&S songs... (for further tales, > search for picnics in the archives for May / June / July / August last > year) > ) Oh, that sounds like fun. Wish I could go. But I did get to go to my first listserv fete, a small Roxy Music gathering in Ann Arbor. It was wild. Ciao! Heatherita +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Putneysays at xxx.com Tue Mar 30 03:33:10 1999 From: Putneysays at xxx.com (Putneysays at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 21:33:10 EST Subject: Sinister: Blur Show NYC 3/30/99 Message-ID: <451fb42a.370037e6@aol.com> Dear Sinisterites, First of all, a disclaimer: this e-mail contains no Belle And Sebastian content. Sorry! Please don't kill me, Mr. Honey. I am only a 15 year old schoolgirl, after all. Anyway, I'm sort of in a bind right now. I have in my possession one extra ticket for tomorrow night's (Tuesday, March 30th, 1999) Blur show at the Roseland Ballroom at West 52nd street in NYC. If anyone on this list is interested in purchasing the ticket from me, please e-mail me PRIVATELY at Putneysays at aol.com Spank you! Carpe Diem, the other, younger, less charming Susannah +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From suzsch at xxx.net Tue Mar 30 05:27:14 1999 From: suzsch at xxx.net (Suzanne Schroeder) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 22:27:14 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Lazy journalism is king! Message-ID: <001001be7a65$a93bb2a0$cc8fffd0@default> -----Original Message----- >Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 11:21:05 +0000 (GMT) >From: Stuart Gardiner >Subject: Sinister: Gay Mark, we don't want to know... > >The music press are always going to stereotype B&S fans as being all the >same, even though it's blatantly not true. It's the same as the way they >make up genres and subgenres to describe what a band sound like, and lump >in with them other bands who sound completely different. It's just lazy >journalism. Get used to it... Lazy journalism? Probably so, but think about it this way: have you ever tried explaining what one of your favorite bands sounds like to your friends? It's very hard especially when they don't listen to anything even remotely similar to what you do. And you think of all the nuances you have grown familiar with and realize that your friends don't want a dissertation and don't have the patience to sit as you explain this band song by song. You're left with either going for how the band makes you feel or what somebody else said. So, you pull a name of a band out of your hat to make your friends shut up. With that in mind, try imaging people with 10 digit IQ's trying to pull off the same feat. That's the dilemna of journalists! :^) It's probably a tired subject, but I have finally scored the Looper album. I was a bit saddened to see the limited edition of the Gentle Waves 7" was gone already, but hey, it might as well be sold to someone with a turntable who can actually hear with the thing sounds like, and considering that I have the Looper 7" from this summer that hasn't been played either..... At any rate, I heard this album when i got to my bandmate's house, and it immediately caught my ear, so this is a sign that I wasn't going to convince myself that I was going to like it once I bought my own copy. I went home with this and Catatonia's album. And I admit the Catatonia album was getting more play at the beginning, but I'm enjoying this for it's cheesiness, but I have to wonder, does Stuart down deep wish he was with Arab Strap? After giving their 2nd album that name, and making this thing as Looper with mostly spoken word, you sort of get the idea that he is secretly kicking himself for not doing random spoken word albums, and has to refer to Looper as nothing more than a side project.....but that's probably my own projection, and who in the hell knows what he's thinking? If you are a prolific writer, I'm sure a catalogue of songs that don't fit what your band does start to pile up and you hate to see them wasted. the only complaint I have is that the vocals are mixed so low that I can't hear what's going on. That must be a Scottish thing since Arab Strap was the same way.....and no, it's not the accent that is confusing me since I lived in Glasgow for several months. _______ Suzanne http://home1.gte.net/suzsch/index.htm +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eculb at xxx.uk Tue Mar 30 13:06:43 1999 From: eculb at xxx.uk (JaMeS) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 13:06:43 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: belleandsebastian: a little happening in london this coming sunday Message-ID: ooooh, sounds like fun! fingers crossed it'll be fine an sunny on Sunday...ive never been to a B&S picnic thing before, but i may very well just venture down to this one. im going to the Gentle Waves gig, of course, with a mate who has a cunningly placed flat fairly close by, but ive no idea who'll be at the picnic affair since ive never been to one before. how many people are we all expecting, roughly? i hope im not the only student there...who'll join me??? JaMeS :) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Hall/7789 >the glorious sun on saturday inspired us and since the weather seems permitting, a >picnic has been planned for this sunday (easter sunday) in london. > >why? > >well, apart from keeping with tradition (belle and sebastian picnics ran >throughout the summer last year, and before that i was helping run picnics for the >three previous years for a nightclub i worked for) we've noticed that a lot of new >people have surfaced on the mailing lists and websites recently, so it would be >nice to get together and have some preliminary introductions and a hell of a lot >of fun. > >we'll also be using this as a general meet before the london gentle waves gig, as >previously mentioned the gentle waves is going to feature six eigths of belle and >sebastian, so we expect a lot of you will be around london that day. > >what will happen? > >well, we'll play football, board games, drink, eat, have a good laugh, resurrect >some old games (stuck in the mud is always pretty damn hilarious), and generally >have a bloody good time. we'll also be giving away some tickets for the gentle >waves gig that night, some copies of the weathershow 7", i'm not sure how, maybe >we'll have a connect 4 league (jeepster staff are excluded!) or something. > >who can attend? > >everyone, anyone, friends even, no-one has to like belle and sebastian, or even be >of a similiar age group to the rest of us. that's not the point. the point is to >meet people who you might have met on-line, off-line, to give friendships a chance >with people you might not have normally talked to. the common thread is that we >all share the same interests and that gives us a good chance of getting along >well. and since this is the first proper meet in london since the whole brit >palaver, i'm sure we'll have a pretty celebratory tone to the whole affair. > >where is it? > >it'll be held at the traditional spot of primrose hill, simply head to camden town >tube station and wait outside at 3pm and we'll all walk up to the hill together. >if you know where the hill is, just meet us on the summit at around 3:30pm. we'll >probably move to a pub at dusk and from there onto the gentle waves gig :) > >what should i bring? > >well we ask everyone to donate a bit of food to the kitty. this helps create quite >a feast whilst at the same time being cheap for everyone. if you're unsure what to >bring, think along the lines of pringles and dips, veggie sausage rolls, pasta >salad, fairy cakes, etc. we'll provide all the plastic cutlery, plates and a few >cups along with some cadburys creme eggs (well, it IS easter!). > >if anyone has any questions not answered by the above, simply mail me, i'll be >pleased to help, but note that there may be a small delay (1 day) in replying >since we're moving office this week and my e-mail is at home :) > >cheers, and see you all there :) > >david > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd > http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk > > WE ARE MOVING, NEW ADDRESS: PO BOX 14153, LONDON SW11 4XU, UK > > to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk > with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message >+----------------------------------------------------------------------- >|this message flew through the belle & sebastian list run by jeepster >|to send a message to the list, mailto:belleandsebastian at jeepster.co.uk >| >|for information on the list visit http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/ >|any problems? then simply send a mailto:owner-belleandsebastian at jeepster.co.uk > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- |this message flew through the belle & sebastian list run by jeepster |to send a message to the list, mailto:belleandsebastian at jeepster.co.uk | |for information on the list visit http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/ |any problems? then simply send a mailto:owner-belleandsebastian at jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Tue Mar 30 14:40:02 1999 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid Dossinger) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 08:40:02 -0500 Subject: Sinister: I don't even know what the topic IS... Message-ID: <3700D30C.858D4ED4@bigfoot.com> Hello, folks. And then goodbye. I have to leave now, but not in a huff. It's just that my life is being bullied and kicked a bit these days, and for some reason, I just can't bring myself to read the digests. But I'll be back. Anyway, this is not some feeble attempt to get everyone to shed a tear for me. But I feel like I made a few friends here, and if anyone feels like writing to me, the address will stay the same. Write away, pals. Who the hell is that guy, Reid +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Tue Mar 30 15:41:22 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 15:41:22 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: airport muzik Message-ID: Dear lot: Here I am back in tea-world ( I am writing while some tea break, and this sort of breaks only takes place is this country,sure) though I am not a professional as fantastic Alix.My friend has given to me a mug, with some electronic Citibank product reference on it,as she is a marketing analyst there and a pocketbook angel all at once.Now I won't feel as the marginal outsider ,bloody foreigner I am in my department with my own mug as all natives do and tea breaks have a new meaning to me. Perhaps if Stu M. was moved to Spain could be able to condense in some lines about how weird he feels when going to the bar and not distinguishing among allthe different white/black coffee classifications(Fluffy : manchado,mediana,cortado...etc,etc)the feeling of loneliness abroad where nothing is like at home.This 'coffee' stuff is bloody difficult for not Spanish in Spain ,I have been told by well aware and concerned sources, especially if you have to order the coffees for the eight people who will go with you at the break. Sorry Honey for all these apparently nonsenses about tea,coffee and cultural gaps but I just wanted to show my total agreement with someone(difficult Oriental name to quote,some American I believe) who started some thread about atypical but necessary lyrics in Belle's songs. How an Arab strap could turn to be so symbolic? To my eyes, boys with arab straps is nearly a sociological niche, but probably it would have taken a lifetime to me to find such an expression to define them. Weird places to listen to some of their songs: what about an airport in Madrid while four hours of waiting because of 'NATO attacks!' last chapter? They are good as relaxing therapy,promise...!I also was happy in the daze of a drunken hour when unexpedtedly Dirty Dream ploughed into my ears through the smoky atmosphere in a dodgy club. Only 23 days left.It's the begin of the countdown.And the beginning of my self-embroidered t-shirt. Arantxita +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Tue Mar 30 15:53:18 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 15:53:18 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: airport muzik (fwd) Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 15:41:22 +0100 (BST) From: Arantxa Sanz To: sinister at majordomo.net Subject: airport muzik Dear lot: Here I am back in tea-world ( I am writing while some tea break, and this sort of breaks only takes place is this country,sure) though I am not a professional as fantastic Alix.My friend has given to me a mug, with some electronic Citibank product reference on it,as she is a marketing analyst there and a pocketbook angel all at once.Now I won't feel as the marginal outsider ,bloody foreigner I am in my department with my own mug as all natives do and tea breaks have a new meaning to me. Perhaps if Stu M. was moved to Spain could be able to condense in some lines about how weird he feels when going to the bar and not distinguishing among allthe different white/black coffee classifications(Fluffy : manchado,mediana,cortado...etc,etc)the feeling of loneliness abroad where nothing is like at home.This 'coffee' stuff is bloody difficult for not Spanish in Spain ,I have been told by well aware and concerned sources, especially if you have to order the coffees for the eight people who will go with you at the break. Sorry Honey for all these apparently nonsenses about tea,coffee and cultural gaps but I just wanted to show my total agreement with someone(difficult Oriental name to quote,some American I believe) who started some thread about atypical but necessary lyrics in Belle's songs. How an Arab strap could turn to be so symbolic? To my eyes, boys with arab straps is nearly a sociological niche, but probably it would have taken a lifetime to me to find such an expression to define them. Weird places to listen to some of their songs: what about an airport in Madrid while four hours of waiting because of 'NATO attacks!' last chapter? They are good as relaxing therapy,promise...!I also was happy in the daze of a drunken hour when unexpedtedly Dirty Dream ploughed into my ears through the smoky atmosphere in a dodgy club. Only 23 days left.It's the begin of the countdown.And the beginning of my self-embroidered t-shirt. Arantxita +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Tue Mar 30 16:47:08 1999 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 07:47:08 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Lazy journalism is king! In-Reply-To: <001001be7a65$a93bb2a0$cc8fffd0@default> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990330074708.02fb8880@mail.hooked.net> At 10:27 PM 3/29/99 -0600, Suzanne Schroeder wrote: >have you ever tried explaining what one of your favorite bands sounds like >to your friends? It's very hard especially when they don't listen to >anything even remotely similar to what you do. And you think of all the >nuances you have grown familiar with and realize that your friends don't >want a dissertation and don't have the patience to sit as you explain this >band song by song. You're left with either going for how the band makes you >feel or what somebody else said. So, you pull a name of a band out of your >hat to make your friends shut up. yup. my band right now is having the exact problem. it's hard to match your sound to someone else when there's no one popular that you really sound like... one of the dilemmas of sounding "indie", and probably the main reason the term came about - a catch-all for college-band types that don't sound mainstream. so what can you do as band like that trying to explain yourself to the masses? sit and whimper? i'm not sure. anyway, just chiming in accord, maybe didn't need to be said, but sometimes it's lonely being a lurker, especially when you hate what you do for a living... senor droolcup [ shaking his fist at the air ] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinkmoon at xxx.com Mon Mar 29 18:16:09 1999 From: pinkmoon at xxx.com (pinkmoon at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 99 17:16:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Attention Nick Drake fans!!! Message-ID: <199903300116.RAA02635@mail.fiberia.com> Join the Nick Drake mailing list! http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/NickDrake Love, Paul *********************************************************** * Get your FREE e-mail and FREE web site at FIBERIA * * http://www.fiberia.com * *********************************************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lyricjunkie at xxx.com Tue Mar 30 17:19:48 1999 From: lyricjunkie at xxx.com (headrush city) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 08:19:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister:Falling over all the right lines Message-ID: <19990330161948.4267.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> --- Suzanne Schroeder wrote: > have you ever tried explaining what one of your > favorite bands sounds like > to your friends? It's very hard especially when > they don't listen to > anything even remotely similar to what you do. > And you think of all the > nuances you have grown familiar with and realize > that your friends don't > want a dissertation and don't have the patience > to sit as you explain this > band song by song. Exactly!! You feel so strongly about the music you want to get across how much it means to you, and why. This also happens when you've got an album playing in your room, or a tape in the car, and someone asks you who the band is. Soon after, your friend is kicking his/herself for asking the question, because you've got yourself so worked up with detailing how fantastic the song is... That will be all for now, popsters. Love and smarties, Natasha xx === "Here comes a soul saver on your record player" The Charlatans _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alix.campbell at xxx.net Tue Mar 30 21:01:57 1999 From: alix.campbell at xxx.net (Alix Campbell) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 21:01:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: ooh la la Message-ID: <000001be7ae8$d5e1d0e0$8e7aa8c2@big-comp> well, ma frriends i came home this evening, to find my dear papa clutching a wee teapot, all for me. it could only be described as dinky, loathe as i am to admit it, but it really is charming. its intrinsic dinkiness allows me to overlook the fact that is, how can i say, brown. i'm drink rose pouchong tea from it right now. well, technically i've poured it into a cup, i'm not pouring tea from the spout into my mouth, that would be silly and messy. so, my teapot hunt is at its end. i fear once the novelty wears off, i shall feel empty and directionless. but should that happen i will simply put the kettle on and be myself once more. i'm trying to think of something interesting/ relevent to say. love alix the universe contains everything that exists, the planets, their moons, the stars, star clusters, the galaxies and groups of galaxies and all the space and all the gas between them. as far as scientists know there is only one universe and there is nothing which is not part of it. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From araymond at xxx.edu Wed Mar 31 04:03:56 1999 From: araymond at xxx.edu (Raymond, Andrew George) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 22:03:56 -0500 Subject: Sinister: i need your help Message-ID: <3701909B.48E929CD@roanoke.edu> Hello 'Sinister' People: I don't post very often, but I have a question to ask the list members. I'm going to be studying in England this summer (I'm from the U.S.A.). Unfortunately, I just realized that most of the people I'll be flying over with are choads who therefore will not provide me with much camaraderie. Fortunately, I remembered that I was on this nifty mailing-list and that many of those subscribing to the list come from the United Kingdom. This is where you step in. I need friends!! I'll be at St. Anne's in Oxford and if any of you will be in that general vicinity between July 5th and August 15th I would like to meet you. It would be beautiful if I had friends in England before I even left America. And, with our shared love of Belle and Sebastian, I'm sure we'll have plenty to talk about (I'm sorry if this sounds too much like a desperate personal ad in the classifieds). Thank you, andrew +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pbelinsk at xxx.net Wed Mar 31 03:49:51 1999 From: pbelinsk at xxx.net (Molly) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 21:49:51 -0500 Subject: Sinister: just a-bumbling of me Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990330214951.00797d30@northernway.net> First off, a few tiddy-bits of little things that have been rolling in my mind (the proverbial B&S content to follow, however old it may seem) To whoever asked: Sarah Michelle Gelar (or whatever): I haven't seen that vampire show, but I saw a picture of her once, a while ago, and I couldn't help but admire her pointy-straight, clumpy hair. As a person? I can't judge. As an actress, I can't judge that either, but was she in one of those screamy-still know what you did movies, I'm going to have to say... no. Of course, it is my own unqualified opinion. Unqualified because I haven't had the opportuity or the desire to viddy a screamy know what you did last summer movie. Anne of Green Gables: I love Anne of Green Gables... almost as much as the Princess Bride, and that is saying a lot, seeing as how I used to want to BE the Princess Bride and tried to make myself pretty dresses and grow my hair in an attempt to do so. Anyway, Anne is very good, I think, and this time I think I am indeed qualified. The mini series/movies are excellent too. To the person doing their homework: can you research anything? Although I am extremely new here, I've been around the Internet block more than once. I just read a very negative article at ABC News online about 'net addictions. You should set up a "How 'net addictions can be positive" or even make it completely neutral and report both sides. I'm sure that you can find someone to help you with the HTML if you needed it. Of course, you could just ask the list, but then it would be biased. I haven't known B+S for very long, a little over two months, probably. If I were in it from the beginning I would want to flick new people like me in the ear and punish them and test them for sustainability. However Mr. Honey seems to have done that already with the little nursery room. I gave myself an extra week of non-posting pennance for composing a post in my mind. I'm so dirty. Yeah, I'm new. ANd I only heard about Belle and Sebastian because I was (although it is hard to admit to such a large audience) watching MTV2 one day and saw the end of the very pretty video of "Is it wicked not to care?". Then i bought sinister and listened over and over and over and over (ad infinitum) because I was afraid that TBWTAS might ruin the spell that IYFS had over me. I don't have rarities and I don't have a record player. I just love the music. And that's my story molly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NeilD at xxx.uk Wed Mar 31 14:06:08 1999 From: NeilD at xxx.uk (Neil Dewhurst) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 14:06:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: No sun for me, and how to describe music. Message-ID: <704AE307AB53D2119EE300805F7DF7551118E0@NCMSERVER> ooooh, sounds like fun! fingers crossed it'll be fine an sunny on Sunday...ive never been to a B&S picnic thing before, but i may very well just venture down to this one. im going to the Gentle Waves gig, of course, with a mate who has a cunningly placed flat fairly close by, but ive no idea who'll be at the picnic affair since ive never been to one before. how many people are we all expecting, roughly? i hope im not the only student there...who'll join me??? JaMeS :) Damn all you sun-enjoyers and you Sunday idyll. I, for one, will not be there, due to my required presence chez mes parents this weekend. I will be at the gig, however, which I am still fairly excited about. Do they sell tickets in numerical order, by the way, because I have a childish excitement in me from being sent tickets 5 and 6. Does this make me important? It surely does. On the how to describe music thread: Accusing journos of laziness is perfectly justified. I'm kind of in that field, and I'm as idle as a tortoise in December. I think that sloppy journalism would be a better tag, though, since an amazing number of mistakes somehow get made despite common sense and the need for only a very small brain to avoid them. Describing music can be a bit tricky, though, as I found while trying to buy the state of grace album. Shopkeeper: What's it like then? Me Erm Shopkeeper I've heard its like St Etienne a bit Me Erm, yeah Shopkeeper And One Dove Me Kind of crossed Shopkeeper Right. Me Yeah. Not bad for a budding music journo, you have to admit. Cheers for now, and happy easter to all. Neil xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Wed Mar 31 12:08:10 1999 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (Blake E. Hamilton) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 06:08:10 -0500 Subject: Sinister: I've got that wide awake, give and take, five o'clock in the morning feeling... Message-ID: <000501be7b66$c3d2b800$ee941198@wfu.edu> Dear Flowers, Oh how I weep... Here in the darling southeastern United States it is 6am. I have been up since around ten am this morning and I am not happy. It seems that a wretched bout of insomnia has crept and taken hold of me like a shadowed ghoul. The sun is beginning to rise, and the sky is a sort of lavender palette right now. My point, well, is that I am very sleepy and I can't go to sleep for the life of me, and I have no idea why. One of the reasons that I was unable to sleep (not why I cannot sleep as of now) was that my roommate officially left earlier this morning, after being kicked out of school a few days ago. Oh, people who cannot hold their liquor, do take care of yourselves, if you are indeed out there. My roommate was a slob. So instead of taking back all of his things to friendly California he left me with a considerable mess, and as opportune as my bad luck is, a friend is coming in later today, and I only have a few hours to make this place look habitable. I'm afraid there isn't a lot of B&S content in this post (as if there really is any, ever!). Well, I did talk to a very old friend today, who goes to Oxford (in Georgia that is) who has a dear friend who loves B&S. She said she had listened to them a few times, and thought they were quite nice. I was about to go on about the new album, single, and Tigermilk, but I figured she didn't want to hear me gush so. Thanks to the many Sinisterees who have gotten in touch with me after my auction of screen names last week. I have met some adorable shy folk who absolutely take my breath away... I believe that does it. Please, anyone, send me wishes of sleep, oh sweet repose. It's now light outside and I'm beginning to panic. Perhaps I will never sleep again. love, blake PS Anyone else think Blur's Tender (the 'oh baby, oh why?' bit) sounds WAY too much like Jarvis' Dogs Are Everywhere? The little guitar bits are very very similar. "seven weeks of staying up all night...." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Wed Mar 31 14:18:48 1999 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Fluffy Sarah) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 14:18:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: gentle cheese in the nme Message-ID: <$QcXTBA4CiA3EwCe@elsato97.demon.co.uk> (hooray! whistler album out 29/3/99!) And by the way, did everyone know that Mogwai are one of the few bands with something left to say? eg "i think the fact we don't incorporate singing seperates us from all modern music...is as radical as bob dylan alerting the souther states of America to their racist ways in the 1950s." And there I was thinking they were just scared of good old mister tune.. anyhoo - the gentle cheese album review which i am going to post FIRST! cos I'm bored. for a band that has spent most of its year thus far shunning the limelight, 1999 is turning into a mightliy peculiar year for belle and sebastian. barely three months in, they've already won a brit, organised their own indie festival, and pissed off a nation of vinyl junkies by re-releasing Tigermilk. Now - gawd bless us - come the solo projects... stuart davids looper album recently sneaked out of the traps and now its the turn of isobel campbell to inflict her gently glum ponderings upon us. recorded in the space of a week, 'the green fields of foreverland' is fundamentally an half an hours worth of homespun cosiness. With galivanting Black beauty style frills, B&S chums tinkling on the xylophone and tunes like toasted muffins on a cold winters eve, this isn't so much a record as a glowing acoustic based advert for the scottish tourist board. true, weathershow charges about with a certain feistiness, and Evensong has a touch of Carry On sauce about it. Yet isobel and her seethingly cutie vocals are frequently to be found in more fragile quarters, fretting about lifes little mysteries and dabbling in sugary sweet sorroes like Enchanted Place, Dirty Snow for the Broken Ground, and of course Tree Lullaby. NICE. Next month: Stuart Murdoch releases his pipe-smoking solo opus :No Cigarette Packet required. We bet. 6/10 and that was written by Simon Williams. Britney Spears got 1/10. the gentle cheese are also the ON gig of the week: yet another belle and sebastian offshoot which, if they continue at this rate of proliferation should result in at least 67 unpresuming new indie bands come the millenuium. the gentle waves (cheese) are the softly sung brainstorm of B&S cellist Isobel Campbell who recorded her Green Fields of Foreverland LP (on jeepster) in only one week - with the help of a handful of her B&S bandmates. Its a dark, errily affecting record, stretched taut between warm, folk-influenced lullabies, and incy, minimal meandeings, somehow both comforting and strangely disquieting. liver performances should be suitably low key and thronged by whispering B&S devotees. blah blah ticket details etc london improv theatre 8 nicker a go.... I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Sarah +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From L.Kerr at xxx.uk Wed Mar 31 15:37:17 1999 From: L.Kerr at xxx.uk (L. Kerr) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 15:37:17 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Gentle Cheese Message-ID: Chaps Just had the shocking news that The Gentle Waves "gig" in Glasgow is sold out... I was pleased to see a message about a Glasgow meet-up. The last one was excellent, even tho no-one wanted to linger in the Botanic Garden hothouses looking at prize orchids, preferring to head for the pub. Shame on you. I will expect more sensitivity at this one, if not free copies of limited edition singles :) Just a quick word to say that if you are ever stranded in Dublin with no money, as your purse has been nicked in a CyberCafe while you are talking nonsense in the Sinister chat room, within 20 min a very nice Irishman will appear with rescue money, and introduce you to his equally nice friends. Oh and give you dinner. So, thank you again Joss. See you on "the bus" Linda x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Wed Mar 31 15:43:43 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 15:43:43 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Babylon leave the Rastaman alone Message-ID: Citizens tuning in to the Sinister Home Service, I'm glad to see you're all going fluffy again. You little sweeties. I haven't got much to say but I'm going to say it anyway. First off sorry for anyone who used the Search on the Sinister site and got "0 results" one day last week - go cast your net over the side another time and you might get an abundance of fishes. The Search engine was bad and I had to take it aside and slap its legs but it's better now, and if it's broken in future I hope it will at least tell you that. That's unless you search for "I really like Acker Bilk does anyone have any rare B sides" in which case you will always get 0 results. Oh no hang on, that's not even true now or won't be from tomorrow. You can't say anything round here. Thank you fluffiest of Sarahs for the NME or wherever review of the General Ward LP, I'm not even bothering to type in the MM one, but a quick synopsis is: it's crap, Belle and Sebastian fans "have been cheated" and thank goodness for Looper. This from the pasty-faced ones who panned Looper, was it, last week? Next week: "Mick Cooke can't even hold a spanner straight, call himself a plumber?? Thank goodness Gentle Waves are so great. Belle and Sebastian fans have been cheated." I'm a big softy who falls for anyone who gives me a cuddly toy to hug (there are two people on this list who are forever blameless because they've done just that), and I hope no-one thinks the nursery really is a flick in the ear to new people, as Molly said. This is not about the creation of a B&S underclass who work under the ground in mines to bring us out tea :) I do hope you who are patiently waiting for voices don't think we're all fat frauds with huge cigars and conglomerates at our fingertips, like Mr Burns. New people are nice, and old people stink and are incontinent. Oh dear am I swinging the balance too far the other way? The Northern Sinister Event Of The Weekend took place in the Balmoral Hotel, Princes Street, Edinburgh last Saturday. Mistopher Chris Leonard, whose singing career is taking off so much he recently appointed a new Personal Assistant, and whose WWW site is gigglesome enough to deserve a link from the Sinister page, took afternoon tea with myself, Linda Lulu, and his nice Miss Julia. We drank ceylon tea from silver teapots, had scones, cakes and cucumber sandwiches, and scared a man off who was supposed to be playing the harp. Half way through we all suffered hallucinations concerning grass balls (please advise) and it ended up with Lulu spitting out cake in a fit of giggles over something or other. Anyway way I could just bloomin' well shut up, couldn't I? honeytothebeethatsyouforme xxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tunnock at xxx.au Wed Mar 31 16:36:54 1999 From: tunnock at xxx.au (Chris Tunnock) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 01:36:54 +1000 Subject: Sinister: The conundrum of the arab strap Message-ID: <37024116.31CA@alphalink.com.au> Dear sinisterines, Whilst listening to the break-fasters on 3RRR (Melbourne's premier radio station) they were querying the nature of the arab strap, after playing Sleep The Clock Around... It is 7.30am. Do I... 1. Phone to illuminate the presenters and listeners alike, disturbing their previously hearty breakfasts. 2. Dial the phone and hang up after a few rings because I bashfully do not know how to pose my explanation. Bye Chris P.S my answer can be found in my next post because I had already sent this!!! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eng98ajo at xxx.se Wed Mar 31 16:36:34 1999 From: eng98ajo at xxx.se (Anna J) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 17:36:34 +0200 Subject: Sinister: The sun is out and so are the lurkers Message-ID: Oho, It's that time of year again - picnics everywhere (but here) and of course I get jealous. :) Oh well, I suppose I'll have to what I did last year again, have a B&S picninc with myself. And if it turns out half as wild as last year's I'll have no complaints. The picnic lasted a whole, oh I'm sure, two crazy hours and in that time I'd managed to play strip poker with my self twice, break several limbs playing Twister, mis-sing half a dozen B&S songs (including "Get Me Away, I'm Naked") and get myself all woozy on lemonade. Now beat that Glasgow! :) Anyway, I'm having a little problem and I was hoping that someone might be able to help me, I got my Weathershow 7" the other day, and I can't play it. See, the little hole (you'll have to excuse me if I'm lacking in proper English words here) in the middle of the 7" is too small for the tiny stick on my turntable, in fact the hole looks sort of oval, well it doesn't fit anyway. It's never happened to me before, and I was hoping maybe someone's had the same problem and knows what's the best thing to do without ruining the single. It's mighty cruel to have the single and not being able to play it - so (desperate) HELP!! By the way, sorry about this question, but I haven't been too attentive the last couple of weeks (well, it's sunny outside...), but was there ever any decision on some Sinister-trademark thing for Bowlie? Like Honey's suggestion about upside down-B&S badges or (was it?) Stephane's idea about t-shirts. Just wondering. In 3 weeks exactly (ok, plus 5 minutes) I'll be lifting from Swedish grounds heading for Camber Sands!!! I'm sooo excited! But then aren't we all? (sorry anyone who isn't going) Bye-bye, Anna :) P.S. Is anyone else getting the digests in the wrong order? At the moments I'm reading the replies before the original mails... or maybe that's just my mind working backwards. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Wed Mar 31 17:30:06 1999 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 17:30:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Gentle Waves - Cardiff Gig - Postponed ... Message-ID: <37024D8E.602230E@jeepster.co.uk> hello all, sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but The Gentle Waves gig scheduled for this Saturday, 3rd April @ The Cardiff Coal Exchange has been postponed until further notice. for all ticketholders, you should be able to gain a refund from the point of purchase. tickets are still available for the all the other dates - leeds (friday 2nd @ city varities theatre), london (sunday 4th @ the improv theatre) and glasgow (saturday 10th @ the mitchell theatre), check The Gentle Waves website at http://www.jeepster.co.uk/thegentlewaves/ for more details. cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ ***we are moving on april 1st 1999!*** new postal address is po box 14153, london, sw11 4xu, u.k. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.edu Wed Mar 31 18:41:26 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.edu (Brandt S. Fundak) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 12:41:26 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Discerning musical tastes Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990331124126.008a1470@popb.bgsu.edu> Hi everybody! I'd just like to invite you all to listen to my radio show today from 2-4pm EST (that's 7-9 GMT). Today I am going to be playing stuff by Low, Pale Saints, The Ladybug Transistor and of course Belle and Sebastian. It would mean a lot to me if you listened so if you are so inclined check it out at http://www.webradio.com/wbgu. I realize that this is a shameless plug, but you all seem to have discerning musical tastes and who knows, you might enjoy it! Brandt "Let's face it, bulimics are really pretty" --Dave Foley +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Wed Mar 31 18:01:08 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 18:01:08 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: The sun is out and so are the lurkers Message-ID: Anna J said: > ... was there ever any > decision on some Sinister-trademark thing for Bowlie? Like Honey's > suggestion about upside down-B&S badges or (was it?) Stephane's idea about > t-shirts. I must confess to being a little relieved that no-one has organised anything other than upside-down badges - well so far anyway. Not that t-shirts are A Bad Thing, just that I was worried for a minute that you'd all gone management consultant, capable and efficient on me and would leave me standing, overawed and slightly dazed. I had a vision of Sinister executive umbrellas and corporate desk diaries. So I'll be playing Little Miss Topsy-Turvy with the badges at "The" Gentle Waves concert in Glasgow and I guess at Bamber's Pans too. > P.S. Is anyone else getting the digests in the wrong order? At the moments > I'm reading the replies before the original mails... or maybe that's just > my mind working backwards. Thanks for telling me Anna I didn't know. I do know that again the UK links to the outside world are in a mess, so message delivery times from one person to another may be... unpredictable just now. There's also a little mess-up with the digest volume numbers that Andy Dean in his Dark Hairy Cave told me about, but we're not mentioning that because Honey's got a headache. x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lapis at xxx.edu Wed Mar 31 20:09:54 1999 From: lapis at xxx.edu (dave cohen) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 14:09:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: wholes too wee Message-ID: <199903311909.OAA06497@pobox.upenn.edu> > > > Anyway, I'm having a little problem and I was hoping that someone might be > > > able to help me, I got my Weathershow 7" the other day, and I can't play > > > it. See, the little hole (you'll have to excuse me if I'm lacking in proper > > > English words here) in the middle of the 7" is too small for the tiny stick > > > on my turntable, in fact the hole looks sort of oval, well it doesn't fit > > > anyway. It's never happened to me before, and I was hoping maybe someone's > > > had the same problem and knows what's the best thing to do without ruining > > > the single. It's mighty cruel to have the single and not being able to play > > > it - so (desperate) HELP!! > > > > > > > i had the same problem and would have posted earlier > > > > but! > > > > i couldn't think of a way to word it that didn't sound > > down > > right > > naughty > > > > ok? ok. > > > > i carefully took a swiss army knife and > > shaved the outer lip of the inner hole > > seems that the paper label was slightly > > askew > > > > which helped a wee bit > > > > when i put the record on my turntable > > i still have to rotate the disc > > as it gets penetrated > > > > (and do the same when i take it off to flip sides) > > > > in this manner i have gotten it on > > yay! > > and gotten it off > > yay! > > > > safely. while enjoying the music > > inbetwixt > > yum! > > > > hope this helps > > > > --lapis > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Wed Mar 31 17:36:43 1999 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen - jeepster) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 17:36:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Gentle Waves - Cardiff Gig - Postponed ... Message-ID: <37024F1B.BC004D4A@jeepster.co.uk> hello all, sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but The Gentle Waves gig scheduled for this Saturday, 3rd April @ The Cardiff Coal Exchange has been postponed until further notice. for all ticketholders, you should be able to gain a refund from the point of purchase. tickets are still available for the all the other dates - leeds (friday 2nd @ city varities theatre), london (sunday 4th @ the improv theatre) and glasgow (saturday 10th @ the mitchell theatre), check The Gentle Waves website at http://www.jeepster.co.uk/thegentlewaves/ for more details. cheers, Katrina. - on david's account as i'm still in the bloody nursery :( -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ ***we are moving on april 1st 1999!*** new postal address is po box 14153, london, sw11 4xu, u.k. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From PaperSun23 at xxx.com Wed Mar 31 21:38:59 1999 From: PaperSun23 at xxx.com (PaperSun23 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 15:38:59 EST Subject: Sinister: Careful With That Axe, Dave Message-ID: <80d6bacd.370287e3@aol.com> In a message dated 3/28/99 3:01:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, Daf_Moore at compuserve.com writes: << You lot went on about David Gilmour so much recently I've been re-living my childhood listening to Meddle & Atom Heart Mother. I'll have to dust off Umma Gumma next. "One Of These Days" sure is a banging choon. >> glad to see my unhealthy obsession with Dave Gilmour has inspired others to dig out their old classics. In other tremendous news, I rediscovered my Belle and Sebastian pin! It was on an old bag that had been thrown in the closet. What a fine day it turned out to be! moon patroller carrie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnk at xxx.gr Wed Mar 31 21:45:39 1999 From: johnk at xxx.gr (John Koliopanos) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 23:45:39 +0300 Subject: Sinister: wholes too wee References: <199903311909.OAA06497@pobox.upenn.edu> Message-ID: <37028972.543900A1@flash.gr> oh, i've had this problem too with various 7" singles in the past. a safer (swiss knifes? grrr) suggestion is to stick a pencil into the hole and start revolving it. it should be just fine within a few seconds. good luck! john dave cohen wrote: > > > > > > Anyway, I'm having a little problem and I was hoping that someone might be > > > > able to help me, I got my Weathershow 7" the other day, and I can't play > > > > it. See, the little hole (you'll have to excuse me if I'm lacking in proper > > > > English words here) in the middle of the 7" is too small for the tiny stick > > > > on my turntable, in fact the hole looks sort of oval, well it doesn't fit > > > > anyway. It's never happened to me before, and I was hoping maybe someone's > > > > had the same problem and knows what's the best thing to do without ruining > > > > the single. It's mighty cruel to have the single and not being able to play > > > > it - so (desperate) HELP!! > > > > > > > > > > i had the same problem and would have posted earlier > > > > > > but! > > > > > > i couldn't think of a way to word it that didn't sound > > > down > > > right > > > naughty > > > > > > ok? ok. > > > > > > i carefully took a swiss army knife and > > > shaved the outer lip of the inner hole > > > seems that the paper label was slightly > > > askew > > > > > > which helped a wee bit > > > > > > when i put the record on my turntable > > > i still have to rotate the disc > > > as it gets penetrated > > > > > > (and do the same when i take it off to flip sides) > > > > > > in this manner i have gotten it on > > > yay! > > > and gotten it off > > > yay! > > > > > > safely. while enjoying the music > > > inbetwixt > > > yum! > > > > > > hope this helps > > > > > > --lapis > > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ > +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Delaware9 at xxx.com Wed Mar 31 23:40:29 1999 From: Delaware9 at xxx.com (Delaware9 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 17:40:29 EST Subject: Sinister: hellooooooo from lesley jo Message-ID: Hello everyone this is a message Lesley asked me to forward to Sinister cos her email is still not working so here goes........ hello a ll you sinister people in the house. no im' not dead. disapointing isn't it?? well jess said at least one or 2 people noticed i was gone and were wondering. yeah so i'm having technical difficulties. if anyone realy wants to reach me you can alwyas do so (when my other address is screwed up) at rebelstrange at mailexcite.com i cna check it at school. so anyone who needs to say somehting to me you can do so in that capacitiy until i get my thing back online again. Hello to everyone i haven't been able to write. i'll get back to you all as soon as i can.hopefully soon.......hello to JaMes. did you get my package? are you excited as hell aboutgentle waves? did you get your stuff yet??? Hello weejay. ihave an idea for blueglow, my little essay. i thinkg it wil fit into your 'theme'. i have to think abou it but i think it will be quite amusing as well as somewhat embarrassing for me. hello Markbiondino. i got your little story i was quite surprised to hear from you but the story was the funniest thing i have read in a long time so i thiank you for that, it was truly unique and bizarre, how do you get hold of such wonderful things? hello Teri jess said you signed my guestbook! i'm glad you got tiggerjammies safe and sound! i took this picture out at the seminary a coupole weeks ago that is exactly Melt the Snow. i will send it to you sometime cos it's kind of neat. Xavier i got your Gull Powa and loved the seberg photo. jess and i were just marveling at a photo of jean seberg in the andy warhol museum, by god if she did not look exactly like isobel that is creepy...the tape Rawks. i like the dolly mixture and the girlpunk. my favorite was the Boy From Caracas!! more later Tom Y. i am so full of ideas.and working on some good ones for your little illustration request. i'l keep it in mind. i have some good resources to pull from. Hello to all the nursery bairns, i bet you're all so cute behind tha tplate glass window, in your incubators. Hello to honey. jess said honey was axing for stuff to go on mummy's fridge. probably not wanting more from me, but i have some amusing things i'll be wanting to send in eventually so never fear. I"m loving modern rock song the good version, it's my theme song now. i finally finished my crush tape for art girl, who is still looking very hot and who smiled at me today but probably only to pacify me as i was staring at her a bit too long, in some desperate hopeful measure to psychically convey my desire. i wanted to put up the list of songs to amuse you all, or annoy you, but this ke yboard in here sucks so bad i would not like to type much longer. i'll do it later. it has photo jenny on it, and Prime and Ticking by pj harvey. saucy no--i was going to put portishead or pulp's "i want You" but thought the pj one was going a bit too far already and didn't want to overdo the creepy obsession thing. portishead isn't really very crushy, it's pretty creepy, although it makes me feel crushy to listen to it it might convey a bad message.....i'll stick to the allen clapp and happy pop lala la you're so cute songs and the oh-so=-flirty headcoatees. *SIGH* i'm busy awaiting my gentle waves shipment. all hail jeepster. we love your rapid posting methods. isobel is definitely crushworthy on her web page photos as well. i also realized that laetitia sadier is crushworthy, which was a fun revelation. ihave a hit parade now of my ten biggest wanks which s omeday may amuse you but now i can't be bothered to look it up. but isobel only managed number 3 at her best. she's been headed off by someones unmentionable and unnamed in this context. she can have the white ribbon. how are you all fixing to go to the bowlie,god bless y'all and i'm sure you'll party like it's 1999. i hope it rains on you!!! while you get to party with the sinister crew, and feast upon the vision of murdoch, and rock out to sleater kinney!!!!! bastards! you get all the fun. what do i get? moping in lovesick hell. well shove off! (that was sarcasm for anyone who didn't get it) (I'm bitter) if there's anyone i forgot sorry, i have a test today and i'm tired and hungry and filled with unsatisfied Lust, and didn't realy want to be in this school, or this town, or this STATE today. god love you all, you dont '[have to be here. HEY erin devitt. and all the SW sinister posse, pray for me to get a ticket to tempe and when i get there we can all PAR-TAY becuase it's not missouri!!!! i hope everyone i sent tiggerjammies to got them alright and enjoyed them. I lied. i am terrible at partying, the bes ti can do is have picnics or go to the zoo, or make up random songs in a room with 2 people, tops. partying is alien to me and divides me from the rest of humanity, leaving me a bitter shell of a spinster damning the hapy faces that seem to mock my self-inflicted prison. *I LIKE KITES@* Y2K is a conspiracy do not be seduced. this ends here. i should see you soon if i can get my internet provider to f***ing ANSWER THEIR PHONES!!!! I saw a picture of a fox in the snow last nite in my art history book, it is by winslow homer and unlike hsi other paintings, does not suck. i like it very much, it's very sinister. the fox is in the snow and being about to get viciously swooped upon by crows who have been maddened and toughened to a sharp hunger by the long winter days. the fos is lifting one paw looking over the ridge in a desperate gesture to find escape. it's rather shocking but beautiful nonetheless. with love from me to you, Beebo Brinker (LJ) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dan at xxx.uk Tue Mar 30 11:41:46 1999 From: dan at xxx.uk (Dan Metcalfe) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 11:41:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: a single pear floating in a bowl of perfume Message-ID: <000d01be7a99$e9a2d420$f85e883e@danman> hey hey hey, i've graduated from the nursery. anyway, i'd like to say how, even while my mates think it's geeky, #sinister does feel like a community (je suis le singe) - replete with the nutters, garage-flowers & bedroom romantics. the gentle waves at leeds was great (although we were in the box next to the obnoxious pissed girl - should have done the decent thing & told her to hushup). i'd not heard any of bel's tunes before, but of course shall be purchasing as much as possible in THE FUTURE :) i did particularly like the made-up tune (always one for a bit'o'summat to shimmy to), tho the real songs had me grinning from ear to ear (bel's slight nervousness made them sound all the more tender). i has my b&s badge upside down, but couldn't spot no others, perhaps we need big signs over us heads/Wimpy party hats @ bowlie (oh my god, oh my god, oh my god - i am so excited, gives me something to get through workdays; even if it's still 3 weeks away). anyways, more rambling soon, i'm off for a 'nana, cakes & wine, dan. ps: joke for the day .... Q: what's red & not there? A: no tomatos +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "nambling pambling rice pudding & crochet holiday camp +-+ +-+ gangwanking whimsy-thon" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+