Sinister: Re: An apology

[Cynthia Someone]

See? See? I knew the people on the list had good intentions! things just get 
all muddled up in virtual land. I really don't think anyone involved in this 
had any bad intentions, from nick to paul to ailsa, people just have their 
moments of misunderstanding. so don't feel bad, ailsa. you made me feel 
better with your apology.

I don't know what people should do to make everyone feel better, but I think 
Nick helped a lot by telling us his side.

anyway, it's friday and it's beautiful out. and it's time to leave work! 
hurrah!

Cynthia

>From: ar981611 at xxx.uk (Ailsa Ross)
>To: Cynthia Someone <csomeone at hotmail.com>
>CC: sinister at Majordomo.net
>Subject: An apology
>Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 21:05:26 +0100
>
>OK, I have obviously not given my last post the due care and attention
>it deserved, and as a result have been misconstrued somewhat.  It's just
>difficult to think rationally when something I care about as much as
>this list is erupting all around me :)
>
>Cynthia Someone wrote:
>
> > I feel I must speak, because obviously I have been misheard in some
> > respects. Ailsa suggests that I am criticizing Honey's efforts and that 
>for
> > some reason the length of time I have been on the list (9 months) has
> > something to do with my ideas...
>
>
>Cynthia, this absolutely could not be further from the truth.  The only
>reason I made the point about how long you had been on the list was to
>give myself a reference point before mentioning the rules.  I wanted to
>know whether you knew about the switch to the nursery system, and also
>would have felt a touch foolish had I said "and the rules have always
>been the same on the list" if you had been here since long time before
>me and they all got changed before I came along sticking my nose in.  It
>was perhaps badly worded and I apologise.  I try so bloody hard to be
>fair and inoffensive and courteous, dirty words in some people's books I
>know, but hell, it's just the way I am.  Or at least try to be.  And I
>have stuck up for new people and old people on this list, and try to be
>as non-judgmental as possible.  I'm sorry you see me as so petty that I
>would draw distinctions between people based on how long they have been
>here for.  I'm not, honest :)
>
> > people are choosing sides. Why choose sides?
>
>I don't see it as choosing sides.  I see it as backing Sinister.  See,
>it's Honey's list to do with as he pleases.  If he turned it into a
>crypto-fascist state tomorrow, I'd unsubscribe.  I might be tempted to
>try and start my own list.  I would not try and change his mind, it
>would soon be changed when 1100 people disappeared off to the
>alternative fan resources on the web, or created their own.  But
>ultimately this is Paul's list to do with as he pleases.  He's doing
>this, as I keep saying, for fun and for us.  It must be bloody difficult
>to find the motivation to go on when it all gets like this.  He alone
>says what goes, OK, there are a few of us (I hold my hands up to this)
>who come along and do some prodding on his behalf, but it is a mammoth
>task for one man and all I have ever tried to do is stand up for him and
>his list.
>
>Actually, backing Sinister is choosing a side isn't it?  I do apologise,
>but it's hard to be coherent and logical when all you can see is a red
>mist descending.
>
> > as for my suggestions as to advice or group agreed rules, Ailsa is 
>right, it
> > would be too much effort. I was just trying to help. I felt that if 
>there is
> > discontent as to how the list was run, there should be some way to solve 
>the
> > problem. I mean, hey, if there are a lot of discontented people, and
> > discontented for good reason, than maybe they should be heard.
>
>In hindsight, I wish I had taken out that bit about getting my inbox
>clogged up with rule suggestions.  Not because I know think it's a good
>idea, but because I don't feel I have any right to tell Honey how to run
>his list, and neither does anyone else.  That is not to say I am right
>obviously, and perhaps if you all write to Honey and tell him how you
>feel about things he will do something about it.  That is, after all,
>what he's there for :)
>
>Big hurrahs to Nick Dastoor for being the second SOS-er out of the
>closet.  I know three people know involved in this (one has written to
>me privately, but public outing of this person is at their discretion
>not mine), and so far if I *had* to have an elected body to run this
>thing, all three of them would be on it.   But it was all working so
>well before the shit got thrown at the fan, why the hell is this making
>such a difference?  Can anyone honestly say that had these allegations
>not been made public that they were desperately unhappy with the way
>Paul is running this list?
>
>To anyone else I may have been causing offence to, I'm really really
>sorry.  I am not one of Paul's little gang of friends, I have met him
>twice and have probably spoken to him for about five minutes in my
>life.  I am just a fan of this list and I want to stand up for it and it
>so happens that the way I see it is that means I have to stick up for
>Paul too.  I am all of these things I tried to stand up for earlier in
>the week, nice, courteous, tolerant, polite, well I try to be wherever
>possible.  So if I upset anyone else with my poorly phrased thoughts,
>I'm sorry :)  It sounded nice and rational and non-controversial in my
>head, I swear :)
>
>That's more than enough from me now, and once more, apologies to
>Cynthia.  I'm going for a lie down, people who wrote to me, you'll just
>have to wait until later I'm afraid.  But thanks :)
>
>Ailsa xx
>



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