From isolation at xxx.net Mon Nov 1 02:03:24 1999 From: isolation at xxx.net (.gibby.) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:03:24 -0500 Subject: Sinister: hello. References: <11418.991029@send.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <00be01bf240d$47d6d6a0$81288018@ne.mediaone.net> Yikes... what a weekend. Im the boy with the filthy laugh--- and i hate everyone. But then I made that clear last night didnt I? At any rate--- I've got a snazzy MP3 site up now, and anyone who would like access should email me privately for further info... cheers, gibby. http://people.ne.mediaone.net/isolation/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Mon Nov 1 09:16:45 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:16:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: The Sinistre monde of POP Message-ID: Hi all! I am taking a course on European Cinema and this week and next one it will be focused on Nouvelle Vague.We have to do research on our own on some influences they received and acknowledged or how they influence other artistic works,and prepare some presentation to show our conclusions to the rest.Supposedly we have to be clever enough to unveil some hidden ones... Being aware of Isobel's 'in the face' fondness of 'Pierrot le Fou' or 'Jules et Jim',though all i know about filmic inspiration for Stuart is Hal Hartley's movies,is there any explicit reference in Belle and Sebastian lyrics/videos/artwork or/& The Gentle Waves (or other nineties bands)arising from N.Vs films? I have been told something related to 'Hurley's having dreams' ,but I am not sure what it is,and 'Is it wicked ...?' video, but I have not seen this latter. 'Masculin/Femenin' by Goddard was (allegedly)one of the first films about how market had contaminated art,in special, music and offered a bleak ,hopeless portrait of ye-ye scene.I have not seen this one either,but I am trying to read the script to use it as a basis for my work,and that's why I would like to find some 'experimental' confirmation of G's possible influence in Stuart's well known opinion of musical career and marketing. Any contribution will be welcomed. Thanks all Lurv Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.org Mon Nov 1 13:20:37 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:20:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: A little help please? Message-ID: Might anyone on the list have an updated Lucksmiths tour list? I really want to see them play, but have no clue if they are coming any closer than chicago. Since some b & s fans are also Lucksmiths fans, I thought I'd ask. Thanks. Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 1 13:39:35 1999 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetryplace2) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:39:35 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The New Wave of Nouvelle Vague Message-ID: <01bf246e$891c50c0$046b9ac2@g5-200-3> Good morning, sausage jockeys! May I suggest that Sinister adopts Keith as its official Scottish non-league football team? The tousled club entrepeneur drew 1-1 with Forres Mechanics this weekend: a very creditable performance. Aran-cha-cha-cha asked about the links between Nouvelle Vague cinema and Belle and Sebastian. This is an underappreciated area of cultural inquiry. How many of you knew, for example, that Chris Geddes was "best boy" on Godard's "Les Topographies de Tristesse Indie-Schmindie" (1987), a provocative and insightful analysis of the lives of Cure fans in Marseilles? The film also featured one Leo Carax on key grip. Furthermore, it is understood that since attending the recording of the Black Sessions, Eric Rohmer has become obsessed with Isobel Campbell, saying that her "insouciance et vapidité écossaise sont parfait pour mes films". At one point, the Gallic auteur took to stalking the Jean-Seberg-de-nos-jours through Kelvingrove Park, and gave her poor Afghan hound, Waldo, quite a fright. He is now subject to a restraining order. Finally, no discussion of the subject is complete without a mention of Stuart David's time at the Ecole Superior at the Sorbonne (1992-3) where he was often to be found entertaining fellow students with his controversial theories on 'cinema discrepant', which held that the future of the medium lay in super 8 home movies of squirrels and lickle clay models. His essay "Give me tweedom or give me death" appeared in the May 1992 issue of Cahiers du Cinema. Re: "Hurley's having dreams" - is the line 'Hurley dreams of the time when he was a horse in Czechoslavakia' a reference to "Closely Observed Trains", the Czech new wave adaptation of Bohumil Hrabal's novel? I dunno. Maybe there is something on the excellent B&S Reference Fox webpage (I can't remember the URL, but there's a link at Sinister central). Why does nobody talk about The Remote Viewer on this list? I was asking about them at the Rough Trade shop last week, and rarely have I seen the sales assistant so animated. Such was his enthusiasm that I bought their lp, and I am pleased to report that it has usurped Kraftwerk's "Trans-Europe Express" as my bedtime record of choice. I especially like the track that sounds like the Aphex Twin navigating a barge through the Bush of Ghosts, and discovering a Robot Elephant graveyard. If you know what I mean. I even like the one that has a drum sound that sounds a bit like "People are People" by Depeche Mode. Mr Messent, I doff my cap to you. According to last week's Melody Maker, there is a track recorded for the new B&S lp called "Winter Whiskey". How we laughed. It looks like there will be a social at the Poetry Café this Friday, bands still TBC, but it seems possible that those spangly jangle-merchants The Foxgloves will be making an appearance. More details will appear on the Cheapster message board, no doubt. As you were Stevie Troussé +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mhintz at xxx.edu Mon Nov 1 11:44:53 1999 From: mhintz at xxx.edu (mhintz at xxx.edu) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 07:44:53 -0400 Subject: Sinister: two layers of wool and tweed Message-ID: <381D7D32.6126F89C@email.eden.rutgers.edu> Some might say this is about four months too late, or that it is three years too late. But I put a Tigermilk review of sorts on the Stolen Kisses site. Does anyone have a complete listing of Bands That Reviewers Say Are The NEW Belle and Sebastian? I only know of Hefner, Hopkirk and Lee, and the Clientele. Of course none of these bands really sound like B&S. But journalists can be lazy. Anything with a quiet guitar and a man singing. Thank god the Gentle Waves aren't the new Belle and Sebastian, due to female vocals. (When Isobel's voice breaks and she becomes a proper man, we are in trouble). The first time as tragedy and the second as farce? I'm still scared of the sitar. Living and loving Matthew Stolen Kisses http://stolenkisses.tripod.com 'We are reasonaly young.' +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From meepmeepmeepmeep at xxx.com Mon Nov 1 13:54:17 1999 From: meepmeepmeepmeep at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mr=20Beaker?=) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 05:54:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Fwd: cloth Message-ID: <19991101135417.7071.rocketmail@web1406.mail.yahoo.com> Please see attached from Oon. I'm sorry I haven't forwarded it to you's all before now. I did try but "squeaky clean" mummy swallowed it up and spat it out real green-like whilst the list was on two minutes half-bored at the local juvenile correction centre. Yesterday I played table-tennis. I am now waking with one of those limps that is halfway between a full-calf pull and a slight strain. You know...one of those limps that everyone thinks you're putting on to get sympathy from the girlies. This conclusively proves you should always warm up with some bending, feeling, rubbing and stretching before diving headfirst into the real thing. Anyways, Oon's pooter's probably workin' a treat right now but just in case... --- oon oon wrote: > Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 06:06:42 -0700 (PDT) > From: oon oon > Subject: cloth > To: meepmeepmeepmeep at yahoo.com > > > did i told you my email address is also dead too. > so please write to oon_oon at yahoo.com or > oon_oon at doramail.com > > please tell the list if you can, i don't have anyone > address right now. > > love, > oon xxx > > > > > ===== > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From W.M.Hayes at xxx.uk Mon Nov 1 15:37:29 1999 From: W.M.Hayes at xxx.uk (William Hayes) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 15:37:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: GYBE & Iain Banks Message-ID: <872811910.941470649@HA-1E004-PC.herts.ac.uk> There's not really any relation between the two but they are bpthe things I have been enjoying recently. I bought Slow Riot for New Zero Kanada last week, the Godspeed You Black Emperor record, and while £10 is a lot for a two track EP it was still worth it. Mark Niciu has already sung praise to them on this list but he forgot to mention the vinyl at least has a great cover, mat grey card with gold foil stamp, it's lovely. That's one of the main reasons I usually only buy proper records. I understand many of you like Looper, I considered buyng the new single or EP, something about being up a tree. I had a listen to it at my local record store, Woodstock Records, St Albans, and one song does sound like it might turn into The Whole of the Moon at any moment, I was also disturbed by a sound stolen straight out of a B*witched record, I thought I'd leave the purchase untill more thorough investigation can be carried out. Just so all you Looper fans out there can rest assured my musical taste is questionalble, I actually like Isobel's songs. If any of you are Beck fans, are you looking forward to his new LP, I'm really not sure about Sexxlaws, but no matter what it's like I'm going to try desperately hard to see him play if he does any gigs here. Is anyone into James Bond films, there's an exhibition at the Serpentine (in London) of the work of Ken Adams, he made most of the miniature sets and things for the films. It starts 17th November and is free, anyone interested in meeting up there to have a look around please e-mail me privately. Back to the subject, I am currently exploring the work of Iain Banks, I'm reading his sci-fi stuff at the moment but the dramatisation of The Crow Road a while back on TV was pretty good. I started with Feersum Endjin which is short but incredibly imaginative, I usually find SF books badly written or just a poor story but this is a great book, as long as you can get the hang of skipping in and out of reading phonetically on a regular basis. I don't normally let myself buy books because of the ease of access to libraries but I do like them as objects almost as much as for the content. I bought Feersum endjin to read on a bus and I've read it three times in six months, you always find new things you missed before. This lead me to buying Consider Phlebas, his first SF, and it's just as good so far, if a little more conventional. Take this as a recommendation, there's no point me doing a book review here, but they are definately worth reading if you're into that sort of thing. Thanks to Honey for sorting all that mess out, I've only just joined and it looked like the end, but reason prevailed (hopefully), those B&S diary extracts are great by the way, looking forward to more. Billyhaze +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.edu Mon Nov 1 16:18:55 1999 From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:18:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: The New Wave of Nouvelle Vague In-Reply-To: <01bf246e$891c50c0$046b9ac2@g5-200-3> Message-ID: Dear Sinister, On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, poetryplace2 wrote: > > Aran-cha-cha-cha asked about the links between Nouvelle Vague cinema and > Belle and Sebastian ... > understood that since attending the recording of the Black Sessions, Eric > Rohmer has become obsessed with Isobel Campbell, saying that her > "insouciance et vapidit� �cossaise sont parfait pour mes films". At one > point, the Gallic auteur took to stalking the Jean-Seberg-de-nos-jours > through Kelvingrove Park, and gave her poor Afghan hound, Waldo, quite a > fright. I don't mean to start a dispute, and I doubt that this is important enough to anyone to continue after this, but Eric Rohmer's films are not vapid! Admittedly the plots to some of them are contrived and force situations in order to create moral dilemmas for his characters, but the choices are important, and he works to portray each nuance of feeling honestly. I don't think Jean Seberg appeared in any of his films. I think he chose inexperienced, unknown actors (I use the masculine term to cover both actors and actresses; I could have just as easily used 'actresses' but that definitely would not be understood without explanation whereas this might have been), with the exception of Jean-Louis Trintingant in "My Night at Maud's". (I've seen "Breathless" and maybe that was what inspired S. Trousse's vision, but that kind of masculinity is not Rohmer's style, not that Jean Seberg was masculine, of course, but her femininity in the film is just the sort that would be created by an adolescent or twentysomething boy.) In general, what I think Eric Rohmer has in common with Belle & Sebastian is his feminine sensibility. I don't know if you will agree with me, but it seems as though Stuart writes, with true understanding, songs about women or girls. (Just as "boys" seems preferable for his male "characters", "women" seems preferable for his female ones, cos they seem old in spite of their youth.) Or rather that he cares about, understands relationships enough to give up the egoism of his sex. (I don't mean to say that men are egoists any more or less than women; it's just the possessive used to point out that it's beyond self, that that's what's being given up.) That last point was about Rohmer, but I think it goes for Stuart as well. As far as plots are concerned, I'd have to think a bit on that. This autumn in the states the last in Rohmer's four seasons series came out "A Tale of Autumn". It has a wedding in it, but no one confesses that he is gay ... I don't know about release times elsewhere, but hopefully you will have the chance to see it. One last thing, Stuart's use of the 2nd person pronoun in his Guardian piece was very nice. To use it when you say you are waiting for someone is especially personal. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mickcooke at xxx.com Mon Nov 1 18:31:27 1999 From: mickcooke at xxx.com (mickcooke at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:31:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Big Issue Benefit Gig Message-ID: <99110113312777.01879@webb2.iname.net> Hello there, Just to let you know of a benefit gig in Glasgow for the Big Issue, Saturday 13th November The Bedsit 1 Park Drive Glasgow (the student union off Woodlands Road, next to Kelvingrove Park) The AMPHETAMEANIES The Vanity Witch Hunt Biffy Clyro surprise guests ska&northern DJs All proceeds to go to THE BIG ISSUE in Scotland Doors 9.00pm-licenced till 2.00 am (please note: matric cards not required) tickets �4 in advance/ �5 on the door Tickets available from Virgin Megastore, Argyle Street; Missing Records, Wellington Street; The Bedsit itself; and Lindsey, our big-shoed trombone player. Cheers, Mick Cooke +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jbaze at xxx.com Mon Nov 1 18:56:36 1999 From: jbaze at xxx.com (Josh Baze) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:56:36 -0600 Subject: Sinister: remember way back when... Message-ID: <072439845C05D311A3E90004ACB8B73410D2D5@REVEXCHANGE> ...somebody was looking for french songs? this weekend i went to a record sale (20,000 lps for $1 each!) and I bought an album called "I Love Paris," a late 60's compilation of french songs and songs about france. if whomever it was that was interested is still interested, i'd be happy to tape it off and send it to them. let me know. josh +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 9852611 at xxx.ie Mon Nov 1 18:57:40 1999 From: 9852611 at xxx.ie (KIRWAN LOUISE) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 18:57:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: y'know if we could we'd sell the air Message-ID: <2314694F6D6FD311841C009027AA4A08157788@cronus.ul.ie> hallo - it's nice to be back after the summer ( hey seamas, hey daragh - how YOU doin'?). b+s summer highlights - finding llpj, tijamrs and 3..6..9 on 12" vinyl after 52 million years of looking (it's true what the woman in shop said to me; b'ns fans tend DO tend to be a bit fanatical) getting the dj in the local 'indie' ('its not really but i'd like to think that it could be :) club to play 'i don't love anyone' on my birthday oh - and getting the same deejay to play b'ns stuff in the main set. usually he'd play it at the very beginning, when only five other people were there. i 'd dance on my own and look like a complete fruitcake[as usual].But now, two or three others dance too, so i only look like a semi-fruitcake ( such is life:) that's it for me for now, although - y'know when you 've got a cold and you go around with your mouth open, a la bob the evil goldfish, for days... BUT THEN the cold starts to go away and your sense of smell and taste start to come back , only really slowly, so for a day or so you go around surreptitiously smelling everything, wondering "will i be able to smell this time?" (hoping that nobody else has noticed you doing this). then sooner or later everything comes back and then you can taste and smell everything and then..... you discover that that milk you'd been drinking really was sour (you'd suspected, but you weren't sure and were too lazy to go down the shops). i dunno, you forget how nice stuff tastes sometimes..blah, blah,blah i know, i know, not B'nS content but i've been afflicted with colds lately, so to hell with it !! :P louise +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Mon Nov 1 19:04:35 1999 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:04:35 EST Subject: Sinister: I don't like parties Message-ID: <0.5a297025.254f3e43@aol.com> Hello, Last night I was at the worst party in the whole wide world. I went as a vampire, and I wasn't really looking forward to it because I knew that over the course of the party everyone would get gradually drunk and I would be left as the only sober one in the whole house by the end, which is never fun. No such luck. Everyone was drunk before I arrived, so I started off as the only sober one in the house. And everyone had on dance music really loud, and I don't like loudness, or dance music, or dancing, so that was bad too. And the fact that everyone was just jumping up and down screaming the f word over and over again for no apparent reason other than the fact that it made them feel big and clever. And I'd brought my dog on wheels CD. So when no one was looking, I switched the CD, everyone being too drunk to notice me. But when the cd came on, everyone just kind of stopped dancing and looked round at me, and then started screaming all at once to "get that shite off". And then a girl came up to me and punched me in the mouth, and I fell over and hit my head of the back of the chair. Then she threw my CD down, and the state I am in won't play properly now. So I retreated into a corner with a wee bowl of monkey nuts and hid for the rest of the night playing tigermilk in my head. For 4 hours. So I didn't have a very good halloween. On a nice note though, my mum's ordered me the looper album and a tigermilk poster. I'm paying for most of it, but she said she'd half me with it because of me looking after all these children when I van I was in broke down. She doesn't know that I met a naked boy who sort of made it worthwhile. Love Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.org Mon Nov 1 19:30:46 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:30:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: The Sensibility of Belle and Sebastian Message-ID: I have been reading the discussions on Nouvelle Vague with great interest, and while I know very little about the form, I was drawn to write by the comments made by Youn about Belle and Sebastians "feminine sensability." I thought about this assertion for a bit and I am not sure I agree. For a while now, I have been trying to identify what it is about Belle and Sebastian that makes them a much "better" (for lack of a term) band in my eyes than other bands that I like. I thought that perhaps Youn had identified what I had been searching for, but I don't think so. Is what belle and sebastian has such a "feminine" sensibility? I rarely ever think about gender when listening to Belle and Sebastian because I think defining a gender creates boundaries and I think the subject matter of a lot of B & S songs don't have gender boundaries. Unfortunately, this does not answer the question of what exactly it IS about Belle and Sebastian that sets them apart. Maybe I should stop trying to figure it out. Maybe I am just talking out of my ass, but I have had a hard time figuring out what makes Belle and Sebastian so damned good. Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From miss_modular at xxx.com Mon Nov 1 21:04:28 1999 From: miss_modular at xxx.com (Diana N.) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 21:04:28 GMT Subject: Sinister: all I need is the air that I breath... Message-ID: <19991101210428.56512.qmail@hotmail.com> KIRWAN LOUISE wrote: y'know if we could we'd sell the air And I will say, hey...I do!!!! Yep, I am a freak and I work in an Oxygen bar. Not just an oxygen bar but the first oxygen bar in the world..set here in sunny Toronto... And that is just what I do, I sell oxygen... to all poor souls in Toronto who are down and out and need a lift... Of course, for the past 2 years of working there, I have tried to convert all of our clientelle to becoming Belle and Sebastian fans... unfortunately most of them just go 'what is this...' and I blush fanatically as I try to talk up the beauty of Belle and Sebastian... never works...but I try...I did meet my first sinister person while catering oxygen at a club though... Hmmmmmmm, it just goes to show that you can sell anything...and charge 7% tax on it to boot...(this is not a slag to my work...I love my job and wouldn't trade it in for the world)... Okay, back to lurking, Diana ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From adrock at xxx.com Tue Nov 2 00:04:10 1999 From: adrock at xxx.com (Mike Jones) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 19:04:10 -0500 Subject: Sinister: "you can only listen to belle and sebastian if you're a stoner." Message-ID: <000501bf24c5$caaa9f40$a3d88dcc@oemcomputer> hello everyone wooo...lots to say today. well, today in school i played "seymour stein" as part of an english project in which we were to find examples of a faustian-type deal... needless to say, my english teacher wasn't into b&s at all. thankfully, the rest of the class took a little more kindly to the song, which is good because the projects are being graded by the class concensus. i also wore my homemade b&s t shirt today...it's got the 2 drawings of mod-looking girls from the "2 shows: edinburgh & glasgow" live poster, and the lazy line painter b&s logo on a white shirt. a few of my friends like to tell me that one can't listen to belle and sebastian if they aren't stoners, and i don't smoke the cannabis, so... they can arse off because i've been down w/ b&s before they began experimenting w/ controlled substances anyhow. oh well... on a less b&s related note, tomorrow (tues 2 nov), i am going on a field trip to nyc w/ a few friends in my computer art class so we can "learn what graphic artists do in the real world." accompanying me on the hour long busride shall be momus' splendidly wonderful "stars forever". one word: eargasm. i cannot get enough of this record...i finally found a copy around here (here being a northern new jersey suburb) yesterday, and it's been all i can listen to. the concept alone is genius. well, to tie things up, i'd like to say i'm trying to plan a meetup/gathering for northern new jersey/possibly new york city sinisters...anyone interested in helping and/or contributing ideas can email me off the list. well, i do believe i've taken up enough room. thank you all for yr time. gracias, aloha, bonjour, mike j adrock at netrom.com **ape shall never kill ape** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Tue Nov 2 02:53:18 1999 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:53:18 EST Subject: Sinister: Gear B&S Interview... Message-ID: <0.a30dcea7.254fac1e@aol.com> One of my friends hipped me to a B&S "interview" (I use that term loosely) in the new edition of the US men's mag Gear. Its a decent premise in that a journalist who is in love with the band travels to Glasgow to throw himself at the heels of Mr. Murdoch in the hopes of being granted an interview. The only catch is that he spends most of the time talking about the band to Alan Rankine, Stephen Pastel and a few other sundry characters who shed little light on the band (Half the quotes were lifted from the BBC documentary for crying out loud). Struan says very little (go figure) but he does say some interesting things about his love for the Smiths. Plus they give a fuller picture of the Seymour Stein debacle a few years back and Mr. Rankine tells how Struan used to wear three peice suits with pajama bottoms. The thing I find most odd is that its in a men's magazine that has a more than subtle predilection towards tits, motorcycles and American football players. I'm not saying thats a bad thing, because if "real" men can be exposed to things like B&S it might do some good for society. I just get the feeling its more a dissection of a fad than any serious discussion on the band outside of their unexpected fame. For instance, the phrase "You should know B&S because..." is repeated about 20 times through the article. I think the author genuinely loves the band and is as much of a true fan as we are, but I seriously doubt the magazine gives two shits about Struan or B&S as a whole other than to boost their "sensitive man" demographic. Maybe I'm being cynical...pick up the mag and see for yourself. Later Steve C. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Tue Nov 2 11:24:20 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 11:24:20 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Inevitable "Gregory's Girl" post Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22A2DEB0@SERVER1> Well, I hadn't seen the film until last night, so sorry for repeating the obvious... "Are you going to take her up the country park?" I thought this phrase was shockingly rude for all of, ooh, ten minutes, before Gregory did actually take Susan to Primrose Hill, where they smoked a pot of jasmine tea. It also reminded me of the line in the first verse of String Bean Jean, but it's not really similar enough to be a direct reference. Though one of Gregory's friends did look a LOT like Struan, although older, which is odd as he was playing a schoolboy. What's weirder (only for me, mind) is the fact that Gregory *is* Henry, our IT bloke. They have the same face, similar accents, and an identical attitude towards women. I was in a meeting with him first thing this morning and just couldn't lose the images. I may have over-smirked. Aranzazu - I did the New Wave at college too (some nice films, decent imagery, pretty men & women, painfully/too hip and just a touch over-rated), and wrote a passable essay on A Bout de Souffle, though I can't for the life of me remember what I said. Sadly, this was before the days of word processors, so unless I can find it, discover the ink hasn't faded, photocopy it etc, it probably wouldn't help much. It probably wouldn't help much anyway. Steady Mike said: Damien Thorn He also said: cock. Or tits Stevie Trossachs said: Bush (this could go on. But it won't) I had a dream about listees the other night. Natasha was part of an all-female Mafia gang on the run in England for rigging the Inter-Venezia footie game. Me and Marcus accidentally overheard their discussion, and were duly kidnapped and held, unthreateningly, against our will. But we managed to persuade Natasha she was wrong to be a mafiosa, her and Marcus fell in love and then Marcus jumped off the roof of a double decker and barked his knee on the pavement. What could it all mean? Jason - have a look in the archives for answers to your 3 track Vs 4 track question. Poor old Jenowl. I once got punched for uttering the immortal words "you fucking wanker - yes, you in the hood". Oops. It turned out okay though - it was new year's eve, there were 3 blokes - after they'd each had a swing at me, they calmed down. The bloke I'd insulted (he'd laughed at my then girlfriend, who moments before had knocked herself unconscious on some railings) just had a bit of a shout at me, but his mates thought he was still looking for a fight, so they jumped on *him*, and left me to walk off, baffled, while the three of them kicked the shit out of each other. Quite enough for one day, Markx p.s. if anyone sees a 7 foot caber tosser by the name of Mctaggart, can they bring him back please? ******************************************************************* The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e mail; please notify us by telephone on 0171 224 1717, and delete the e mail from your computer. 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Nov 2 14:03:15 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 15:03:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Breadbin Backspin Message-ID: <01bf253b$0216a580$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Me and Mrs Sister Disco went to Saint Jean de Pied de Port yesterday, best known as the setting for Nouvelle Vague children's television series The Flashing Blade!* It's exactly the same as it used to be, except with Renault Clios instead of horses and baseball caps instead of Laughing Cavalier outfits. Half way up the Royal Mile there's a shop selling books and t-shirts and music. Most of the music (and books and t-shirts) was of the Basque variety, which means accompanying yourself on a tambourine as you see how many times you can mention the name of your country during each song. But they also had TWATTYBUS. And you can't say fairer than that. I mean, it's quite a small town. That Stuart Murdoch diary thing was good, wasn't it? Especially this bit: If you have any queries or problems about how to be a student, or what bus to get, or whatever, you may write to me care of 'Guardian'. I wonder what the address is? It's very nice of Stuart to offer, and I think it's up to us to make him feel that his kindheartedness hasn't fallen on stoney ground. It's not the first time he's offered help either. I remember him saying that what he liked most was making people a cup of tea and listening to their problems. And then writing a song about them, probably. Does it really take twenty weeks to get a record out once it's finished? I don't know what the world's coming to. Apparently, Slade used to do the whole process in a week, and their records were much better than anything on Jeepster, except Slow Graffiti. I am too frightened to go and see Blake Witch Project, even though it's dubbed. Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Tue Nov 2 14:24:19 1999 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksAndAJill) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:24:19 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Lucksmiths in Philly. References: <199910311800.LAA10002@turtle.esosoft.net> Message-ID: <028f01bf253d$f3c0e100$84115b80@upenn.edu> Dear Sinisterites, I am pleased to announce the details for the Lucksmiths' stop in Philadelphia, PA on their fall tour extravaganza. SATURDAY, November 13 @ 7:30 p.m., Arch Mews THE LUCKSMITHS...CLOCK STRIKES THIRTEEN...JOEY SWEENEY...THE LADIES Six dollars The Ladies are wonderful quiet pop with boy-girl vocals. Joey Sweeney is wonderful indie-rock-pop with boy vocals (he just had a song on the soundtrack to Hal Hartley's _The Book Of Life_ don't you know). Clock Strikes Thirteen is wonderful jangly/keyboardy sad pop with boy-girl vocals. The Lucksmiths are wonderful lyrical pop with Australian boy vocals. We are not disclosing the exact location publicly because the venue is not one that usually hosts "rocknroll" shows like this, so if you are interested in seeing this, please either call (215) 735 7726 or e-mail mailto:clockstrikesthirteen at hotmail.com and as Robert Plant says in "Kashmir," all will be revealed... I hope to see a good bunch of you there! And there will definitely be at least one B&S song on the between-bands-music-mix... Let's get it on, Xavier +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jbaze at xxx.com Tue Nov 2 16:44:08 1999 From: jbaze at xxx.com (Josh Baze) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:44:08 -0600 Subject: Sinister: delete if you ain't in Atlanta/Athens GA area... Message-ID: <072439845C05D311A3E90004ACB8B73410D2E7@REVEXCHANGE> i am travelling to atlanta, ga, november 7,8,9, for focus groups about dog food. as soon as those are over, i will be seeking more exciting stimulus in this fair berg. anyone from around there? can you suggest record shops, gigs, clubs, anything? thanks! josh +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Tue Nov 2 21:05:07 1999 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksAndAJill) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:05:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: We Rule The School (new dj night in Philadelphia) Message-ID: <199911022105.QAA10005@dept.english.upenn.edu> Hey all, I'm forwarding this nugget of info regarding a new indie night here in Philadelphia PA that also has a B&S themed title...should be a good one, I trust the dj's involved (and their record collections) implicitly. Come on out, it's free! Xavier ;)apologies if any of you have already received this... ;) ;) ;)Remember when rock was young? Remember when YOU were young? Remember when ;)you could still get beat up for wearing Doc Martens? Remember when having ;)your band referred to as "twee" was high praise? ;) ;)We do. That's why, this Wednesday, Nov. 3rd-and the first Wednesday of ;)every month thereafter-we're gonna lace up those Pumas, slip into that ;)ringer tee, box up our old seven-inches and head on down to... ;) ;)WE RULE THE SCHOOL. ;)An evening of indie rock and pop. ;) ;)That's right, folks. This Wednesday, surrey on down to the 700 Club and ;)you'll be damned if it's not 1993 all over again! DJs Bethany ;)"Put-the-beat-back-in-beatdown" Klein, Joey "I used to be signed to ;)Spinart" Sweeney and Jeff "Magnetique" Wagar will spin forgotten classics ;)like: ;) ;)Heavenly � The Spinanes � Small Factory � Unrest � Velocity Girl � Helium � ;)St. Christopher � Field Mice � Versus � Fudge � The Lilys � Twiggy � White ;)Town � Beat Happening � The Orchids � Marine Girls � Lois � The Pooh Sticks ;)� Felt � The Go-Betweens � Nothing Painted Blue � Biff Bang Pow! � ;)Superchunk � The Verlaines � The Pastels � Teenage Fanclub � Black ;)Tambourine � The Shop Assistants � The Apartments � Belle and Sebastian � ;)Aztec Camera � Some Velvet Sidewalk� ;) ;)And the list goes on and on. If it's ever been written up in Chickfactor, ;)you can bet your ass we'll play it. So once again, that's� ;) ;)WE RULE THE SCHOOL. ;)An evening of indie rock and pop. ;)Wednesday, Nov. 3rd, 9pm ;)700 Club ;)Second and Fairmount ;) ;)Please come, and redeem your ticket stub from the Dec. 1994 ;)Stereolab/Unrest show at Dobb's for a special prize! ;) ;)Joey Sweeney ;)Associate A&E Editor ;)Philadelphia Weekly ;)1701 Walnut Street ;)Philadelphia, PA 19103-5222 ;)215.563.7400, ext. 110 ;)fax: 215.563.0620 ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) BXK bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu | www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 It's what kind of hair you have on the inside that counts.--G.S. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Tue Nov 2 20:43:25 1999 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 15:43:25 EST Subject: Sinister: knitting Message-ID: <0.56732245.2550a6ed@aol.com> Hello, My god I had an interesting day. I threw up and then spent the rest of the day in bed knitting a scarf. Oh, and I found out what wanking actually was. I used to think it meant being nasty to people, and that's why you would call someone a wanker. But that was my friends fault, because she told me that for a laugh and I never had any reason to doubt it. My friend helen doesn't like belle and sebastian any more. She likes five and 911 now. She never *really* liked them, but I used to talk to her about them because she was the only person who didn't make sick noises when I played them. Bye bye, Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 2 23:26:19 1999 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 23:26:19 BST Subject: Sinister: gingerly re-entering the fray Message-ID: hey kids, as you probably hadn't noticed, i took a few days off to sit back and contemplate stuff, in an effort not to spew out all the crap that my brain seems to hoard into long and really rather dull emails. unfortunately, i couldn't work out how to do that, so i think the answer will just have to be to post less often (a stifled cheer is heard from 1000 ar so sinistereenies around the globe) things seem to be getting quite intellectual around here, so i feel the need to tell you that i have spent most of the last week walking the streets wearing horns. i have to stress that they weren't the sort of crappy plastic horns that have a black strap and red bits sticking out, no, these are classy black horns made of a kind of silk-effect material. to cut to the chase, my horns are so comfy that on several occasions i forgot that i was wearing them and had loads of those moments when you notice that lots of people are staring at you and you can't work out why, until you remember the ridiculous looking item that is adorning your person (this, needless to say happens to me a lot). on one occasion i was wearing my horns with a big furry coat and was walking through a not entirely pleasant part of town when a scary fat man leaned slightly too far into my personal space and growled 'tiger' at me. i was frightened. in other news, i think i've got tonsilitis (again). you know, doctors won't let you have your tonsils taken out if you're a grown up, or something approaching one, unless you get tonsilitis very severely and very frequently because its such a painful operation. mine is, apparently, not quite severe or frequent enough to merit having my throat ripped apart, so i'll just have to suffer. it is, however one of those illnesses that always brings lots of sympathy from people, so perhaps it isn't all bad. i'm also desperate to tell you about my latest relationship trauma, but look, aren't i great, i'm restraining myself. if anyone is really desperate to know feel free to email me, but it isn't actually very intersting. i've just remembered that i think i wrote some quite proound stuff in a whinging email to mummy while the list was in hibernation, but i can't recall what it was now, i just remember feeling quite proud of myself. i just thought i'd let you know that now and again i do come up with something vaguely readable, obviously though, its always at the wrong time. stay beautiful, fiona ps i'm going home for a few days tomorrow, so please don't post too much because i'll have to sift throug it all when i get back, cheers ****croak**** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bertrand.Caron at xxx.se Wed Nov 3 08:12:20 1999 From: Bertrand.Caron at xxx.se (Bertrand Caron) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 09:12:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: cool people Message-ID: <381FEE64.D9485FBF@uab.ericsson.se> What is your definition of a cool person? On saturday I was in the concert of pavement in Stockholm and I really think that the pavement are what I would define as cool. I remember that I had seen "Fuck" last year and they were extremely cool too. Maybe even more than the pavement. The sonic youth are very cool too. But I wouldn't really define the B&S as cool in my definition of coolness. Bertrand the french in stockholm +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Wed Nov 3 11:49:12 1999 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:49:12 -0000 Subject: Sinister: If I had enough spanners, I could move somewhere nice Message-ID: "Jim had something going. A little prjoect that involved making posters for concerts that would never happen, and record sleeves for records that never existed." A moment of inspiration, supplied by the delicate touch of a certain S. Troosers arrived in my head the other night. I wasn't in at the time, so the postman left it round the back. Most moments of inspiration happen to me in two parts so I'll tell you the first and then try to explain the second. I was in a dirty part of town, at the traffic lights opposite a shopping centre where people flock like geese waiting for the lights to move to amber. Out of the corner of my eye I saw a tall, furtive looking chap, a spanner in glasses, standing in the doorway of a shop. He had a little notebook held close to his face, about the same distance to his nose as the thickness of his glasses. And with a little black pencil he was scribbling away on it. He caught sight of me watching him and retreated into the doorway. Then I looked over where he had been looking and I saw a big green bus, and another one behind. I'd spotted a bus spotter. My dad used to spot birds when he was a lad and although he tried spotting buses once it was never really his thing. I've always had a strange sort of respect for this sort of person. The type who risks social exclusion for a love of numbers or double deckers. I have a friend who's into running, 800 metres mostly, and he's really committed, to the point where he doesn't really understand what's going on in the rest of the world. I don't have any real interest in running but I always enjoy him telling me about it because you can tell he really loves it, and it's something he lives for. So I've always had a funny type of respect for this sort of person. Maybe it's because I've got a part of that inside me. I am on this mailing list after all. So, during a quiet moment the second part of my inspiration came. Troosers had mentioned a while ago about the non-existence of niche markets and how they didn't have a chance to really exist. And I've become quite keen on a DIY ethic recently, after my stab at writing a sitcom and drawing public information leaflets during the summer. So I've decided to start a little magazine, and stick it on my website, which would be about things that really excite people. Like listening to a certain record or tasting a good cup of tea. Or Nouvelle Vague cinema perhaps. My tutor got quite excited about Cuba yesterday when I had a talk with him, so I might ask him about this. I'm quite keen on this idea, and I've told it to a few of my friends so that's why I'm telling you. One of these days I could even get round to doing it. It's nice to see we've recovered from our cabin fever. It was also nice to read that diary from Chris and Stuart. Sometimes it's just good to know what they're up to. Mark mentioned that one of the boys from Gregory's Girl looked like Struan. I think I know which one you mean. I also think this was the one Arantxa thought looked like Alasdair Cook. He did, you know. I tried to persuade her that it was because Alasdair has "a Scottish mouth", but I think I've made that up. Bye Robin xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucy.alder at xxx.uk Wed Nov 3 12:08:44 1999 From: lucy.alder at xxx.uk (Alder, Lucy) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:08:44 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Beguilingly Twee Message-ID: <1EC8C16BC185D311ACB90008C7C563F3352833@gblon1c3ex1.wcom.co.uk> Morning backwoodsmen Thought I'd pass on Craig McLean's opinion of Nalda Said from The Face... David, bass player with Belle & Sebastian, first flexed his nib with his booklets Ink Polaroids and Little Ink Movies - quietly illuminating captions to non-existent 'images' from B&S's early days. They were lovely. Then, with his Looper album, he mixed beats and (probably) autobiographical stories about meeting his missus and a kid who liked 'Burning Flies'. His first novel draws from both these strands. Nalda Said is a lad's gradual unfurling of a bizarre, precious secret. After an itinerant, lonely adulthood, he finds love while working in a hospital garden. Then, as is the way of things, his problems realy begin. Beguilingly twee and ever so slightly unsettling, this is the insular terrain of The Wasp Factory and The Butcher Boy compassionately revisited. Positive it may be, but friends, behold the drawbacks of the 125-word review! Only one sentence to let us know what he thinks of the novel and even then, he feels the need to describe it in terms of other books. But then, this is The Face we're talking about. More exciting by far is the review of Tits-Out Teenage Terror Totty by former NME journalist Steven Wells. With a title like that, I'd say it's a vital purchase. Reminds me of the blithe days of my own delicate youth (snarf!) My recommended CD of the week is Hanna & Barbera - 48 Classic Theme Tunes, which includes all your favourites - Hong Kong Fuey, Scooby Doo (pre-Scrappy Doo version), The Jetsons, The Flintstones, Top Cat, Touche Turtle, Penelope Pitstop, Wacky Races and many more. Sorry to the people I bored with it on Saturday night, by the way. Bobbin Stout said: My dad used to spot birds when he was a lad My own dad was a trainspotter and a morris dancer. He persuaded me to do a talk on morris dancing once at school. Slightly ill-advised, especially the demonstration of how to wear a flowery hat. I still think the sword dances are rather exciting though. He also wrote: I have a friend who's into running, 800 metres mostly, and he's really committed, to the point where he doesn't really understand what's going on in the rest of the world. That'll be the Loneliness of the Middle Distance Runner then. 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com Wed Nov 3 14:23:14 1999 From: babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?BabyChris=20Crystalballs?=) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 06:23:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: b&s on holiday/charity gig. Message-ID: <19991103142314.13020.rocketmail@web1404.mail.yahoo.com> neil in the b&s office told me this: > a couple of them are on their holidays >until the >middle of November, so I can't get anything until >then. >Keep prodding me, or I'll forget. I wonder where they are sunning themselves. StuM is probably sunning himself in barbados with a troupe of dancing girls. A guy I know lives in a street called STRUAN ROAD. I wanted neil to get me some signed b&s merchandise to raffle. I'm holding a charity concert in january at my school. It's to send some disabled kids on an activity week. I ve got 4 bands to play. I wanted someone famous to come as a 'special guest appearance' nothing has happened. Can anyone in the glasgow area help me get some cheap/free pa equiptment? please? Any thoughts about this or a glasgow meetup - mail me. babychris CRYSTALBALLS __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From svesolb at xxx.com Wed Nov 3 17:41:58 1999 From: svesolb at xxx.com (svein solberg) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 09:41:58 PST Subject: Sinister: My girlfriend is leaving me...(but Tigermilk is coming in the mail) Message-ID: <19991103174201.22177.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi, everyone! I don`t know if I should be extremly sad, or a little happy. My girlfriend for the last two years is leaving me, but at the same time I just bought an original copy of Tigermilk for $320!!! So as she is packing her stuff, I am waiting for the record to arrive in the mail. Suddenly B&S doesn`t mean so much to me as it used to. Why is she leaving? She says it has nothing to do with me, it just her....yeah right! I know she isn`t doing the "horisontal mambo"with anyone, so that isn`t the reason, maybe it is her? Is there anyone out who has experienced the same shit, who can tell me it`s gonna be ok, at the moment everything is far from okay. What can I say, shit happens, the only thing that is keeping me up is TIGERMILK, and the fact that it`s: "COMING TO A MAILBOX NEAR ME" Svennie! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Wed Nov 3 19:16:22 1999 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MC1996) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 19:16:22 +0000 Subject: Sinister: If I'm a Vulcan, then how do you explain my boyish smile? Message-ID: <38208A06.2AEFBED7@cs.strath.ac.uk> Quite a good week for TV. New series' of Deep Space Nine and Buffy, and a couple of grrreat rugby world cup semi-finals. These are the things I live for, call me sad if you wish. Better still, call me a cab! Take my wife, etc. I could be the new Bob Hope, you know. I was invited to a party last week, in Inverness! Even more bizarrely, the invite came from the lead singer of Toaster, a band I have never actually heard. Apparently it was going to be fantastic, as there would be "loads of coke, loads of charlie". Now coke I do like (I've always preferred it to pepsi), but I have absolutely no idea who this charlie fellow is. If there's loads of him I suppose he must be quite fat. Maybe he's a comedian, like Bernard Manning. Or maybe he sells turkeys like Bernard Matthews. Sadly though, I had to work, so we shall never know. I've discovered over the past 2 minutes that if you say 'Trousers' in the voice of Unlucky Alf from the Fast Show, it's quite funny. Probably only to me, though. Anyway, here he is. Stevie, not Alf: > Does anyone else know of rock'n'roll animals who > have settled down to get proper jobs? Well quite literally actually, as Animal from the Muppets is actually my local hairdresser. As some of you may have noticed from looking at my barnet, he's not the best there is but, hell, he's cheap. Sinister Minister: > I have now decided that when I finnish uni...etc etc blah blah (rest of sentence not required for piss-poor joke which follows) I have decided that when I scottish uni I'm going to make exams easier so that even dullards like me can pass with flying colours. Louise: > y'know when you 've got a cold and you go around with your mouth > open, a la bob the evil goldfish, for days... BUT THEN the cold starts to go > away and your sense of smell and taste start to come back , only really > slowly, so for a day or so you go around surreptitiously smelling > everything, wondering "will i be able to smell this time?" (hoping that > nobody else has noticed you doing this). then sooner or later everything > comes back and then you can taste and smell everything and then..... you > discover that that milk you'd been drinking really was sour (you'd > suspected, but you weren't sure and were too lazy to go down the shops). i > dunno, you forget how nice stuff tastes sometimes..blah, blah,blah You know, temporary insanity makes for excellent posts. If only I could write things like this. Sigh. "Bottle of": > Mark mentioned that one of the boys from Gregory's Girl > looked like Struan. I think I know which one you mean. I also think > this was the one Arantxa thought looked like Alasdair Cook. He did, > you know. I tried to persuade her that it was because Alasdair has "a > Scottish mouth", but I think I've made that up. I'm not sure which one he means, they're all a bit on the ugly side so it could be any of them. I want to be Kelvin, though. "Don't tough that ravioli, it's garbage". Hey, wait a minute, I just realised this means I must look a bit like Struan. And everyone fancies Struan. Hmmm, something's not adding up. I do have a Scottish mouth, though, here it is now.....haggis. See? Pants again: > May I suggest that Sinister adopts Keith as its official Scottish non-league > football team? I went on holiday to Keith, when I was about 8. It was freezing cold in the middle of July and we stayed in this big stone house on a farm. The only entertainment came from listening to the exhaust on the car batter against the ground every time we went up the hill leading to the house. And my cousin got to name a sheep. Oh, and Scotland captain Colin Hendry comes from Keith. But none of that is of any interest whatsoever. > It looks like there will be a social at the Poetry Café this Friday, bands > still TBC, but it seems possible that those spangly jangle-merchants The > Foxgloves will be making an appearance. Bugger it, I want to go. Issues of distance, and money unfortunately prevent this. But everyone down there should attend. Apparently my brother and his friends were out and very drunk as usual the other night and they met a guy from Philadelphia. So anyway, someone introduces him to my brother's friend as being from Philly, at which point my brother's friend immediately breaks into the theme from The Fresh Prince of Bel Air, and doesn't stop until he's done the whole thing. This is one of the funniest things I've ever heard, I wish I'd been there. I'm of to watch Rangers give those arrogant German bastards a lesson in something. Losing, most probably. So enough of this nonsense. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ian at xxx.uk Wed Nov 3 20:39:21 1999 From: ian at xxx.uk (ian) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 20:39:21 -0000 Subject: Sinister: who's afraid of ky too? Message-ID: <000101bf263b$ac7a85e0$af2b883e@default> oh...its a poor pun.. ooohhhh...its a poor pun.. and its poorer still to return after a month's absence with such a pun and expect people not to hit delete immediately. nevertheless i shall do so. hello again. i have finally read the 527934 messages that amassed while i was on holiday and have probably got things to say about some of them but for the moment i forget.. first purchase on touching the soil of this beautiful, cold little island was looper's new ditty. it seems that it has not exactly met with universal approval from these quarters. i must leap to its defence i like it. it makes me smiley inside. although at the same time i'm aware that it might not be all that good. the jesus jones comparisons ring a little too true. and scarily enough i liked jesus jones at the time as well.. still, for the moment, it holds a special place in my heart. there is something about looper's music that lifts me. it makes me feel more hopeful about being alive. perhaps its because the child-like quality appeals to the (seemingly ever-growing) child within me. and bugger it if that aint a good enough reason to call it marvellous. still on the subject..martin robinson said: >Is it just me or does part of the verse of Looper's Y2K sound like >it's going to turn into the Whole of the Moon by the Waterboys? Not >that this would be a terrible thing, I once went to see Mike Scott's >gang in Oxford for some reason. I was a lot younger and innocent then >though erm... well, having listened to both songs (especially the latter) rather a lot, i can honestly say.... its just you.. a bit of the whole of the moon would by no means be a horrible thing but i can't see it somehow. i'm jealous of you getting to see the waterboys, don't make it sound so sordid... (insert smileyface disclaimer here) and while i'm saying unhip things like "i'm jealous of you getting to see the waterboys" and "i quite liked jesus jones"... i may as well hammer a few more nails into the coffin of my credibility.. i've just watched top of the pops 2. it seems that freddie mercury and david bowie have managed to come up with a new version of "under pressure". damn, that freddie guy is clever. what is it about people called freddie and their ability to exist beyond the grave? the man has managed to be more prolific since his death than he ever was during his life. okay, so most of it is bilge but this particular song is fantastic. perhaps i'm turning into a rock-monster. time to pull out that studded leather jacket, grow my hair and get some blonde highlights. attempt to re-salvage some cool...i'm off to see moz in nottingham on thursday. anybody else going? off to play my megadeath album and do a bit of headbanging hard rocker ian ps. my boyfriend and several of my best friends are currently watching steps at the n.e.c.. curiously they feel no shame about such activities and invited me several times to accompany them. i thanked them politely, but declined. if i want to see talentless gits miming to abba songs i can stand in the middle of a gay club any saturday night. perhaps that was a little harsh. it is my new hard rocker/dirty den image coming through. i'll shut up now. promise. ian "sort of like a gay dirty den, really" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From redden at xxx.com Wed Nov 3 21:53:18 1999 From: redden at xxx.com (danielle redden) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 16:53:18 -0500 Subject: Sinister: my bum your bum our bum Message-ID: i met a boy this weekend on this march i was on whose name was sebastian. upon hearing this i oooohhhed and aahhhed and asked, of course, if he had ever heard of b&s. he said, "yes, i have. i dont like them much, but i did go on a date once with a girl named isobel." my eyes were wide with interest, my mouth turned in curious knots..... tell me what happened please!! well they went to the opera and i think he quite liked her but she never called again and he was a bit upset by this. end of story. hhhmmmmph. i was so diappointed i forgot to ask why he didnt like b&s. tonight i am going to one of these brit-pop-indie-rock-nights which pop up now and again at various places around philly. some good, some bad. so i'll throw a coin into a fountain and wish i dont get scowled at for wearing all the wrong clothes and dancing all the wrong way. sometimes philly pretends it's new york, which i wish it wouldnt, because it's philly's humility that makes it so nice sometimes. danielle Whaat!!! Have you tried The Doghouse??! Get your FREE WEB-BASED EMAIL account at: http://doghousemail.lycos.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SSharp5210 at xxx.com Wed Nov 3 22:02:45 1999 From: SSharp5210 at xxx.com (SSharp5210 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 17:02:45 EST Subject: Sinister: Hopeless German basts. Message-ID: <0.d817467b.25520b05@aol.com> Why do those Bayern types turn up? Hola troops. I know that it's been mentioned beforebut the "Radical voice of politics" Tommy Sheridan is holding a socialism thing at Glasgow Caledonian Uni from 7-30pm on Friday.According to his column in the Record "Top Musicians" Belle and Sebastian shall be discussing the music industry. You'll probably have to sit through mucho Communist Republic of Scotland stuff but as a chance for hero-worship it's un-rivalled.See ya there? Steve S +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seyfert7 at xxx.com Thu Nov 4 02:01:28 1999 From: seyfert7 at xxx.com (deb s) Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 02:01:28 GMT Subject: Sinister: t.o. meetup - FINAL details Message-ID: <19991104020128.90158.qmail@hotmail.com> last time i promise, alright, final details, done, this is it. saturday november 6th we will meet up at the HORSESHOE TAVERN. a few of us will wait around there from 5pm-ish to 7pm-ish. that gives you a bit of lee-way. from there, we will all head together to angel's apartment for the video viewing. if you can't make it between 5&7 then email angel privately for directions to the apartment. once we are there we'll decide on the rest of the evening's plans (which pub basically). for all the uk listees that have emailed me about coming to this meet up, i'm sorry to inform you that t.o. stands for toronto ontario. should'a made it more clear(?). if you don't know the horseshoe, it is practically right at the corner of queen & spadina (north east side). look out for me (i'll prolly be wearing the blue study at stow shirt) and diana (tall girl always in all black). i think that is it. i hope it is anyway... see you soon deb xx ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pixiemeat2 at xxx.com Thu Nov 4 05:17:41 1999 From: pixiemeat2 at xxx.com (Helen) Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 05:17:41 GMT Subject: Sinister: kids, don't be fools, bet it all on the red. Message-ID: <19991104051747.83702.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey kids, stuff the higher education and the nine to five job, and be like me, become a professional gambler.( I take no responsibility for any losses occured by people actually taking this advice). But only do it if, like me, you have "the gift"... Actually I think after walking in to the local betting place I changed my mind, you know, its not all classy and swanky like the ads say, but a bunch of old men with paunches scratching their crotches and craning their necks to see what just won... But of course as soon as they saw me walk in they felt 'the gift'and turned around in awe, as any seasoned gambler knows, 'the gifted one' deserves all this and more. This is all because I won a largeish amount of money ($500Aus or probably 95p or so in England) on "the Melbourne cup" the race that allegedly 'stops a nation' which is bollocks because it didn't get me out of doing work and exams.... Anyway I bet only once a year or so and my method of choosing a horse consists of, good name, good colours, and good number. I bet $2 on a quinella and god all mighty if it didn't just come in, paying $240 for every dollar put on. Thankyou Rogan Josh and Central Park....I'm on my way from cash-strapped, to still cash strapped with a really good CD collection and a really big hangover. So the question arises.... what to do with this money? (although I think it might be useful in financing my overseas trip in January or so, but stuff it I'm going to spend some) So... I write to enquire about any Australian listees (hey I know this is area specific.)I haven't got any of the B & S EP's/singles (because as you may know the only album that has actually got release here is TBWTAS and the only way I got the other albums was through import) and I was wondering whether any of you have got any of the EP's and how exactly you got them, ie internet, import, etc and what was the cheapest for you. I would like to get Lazy Line Painter Jane and the modern rock song single, as I have heard favourable reviews but even though I have won money lately I don't really want to spend it on stuff that could be avoided. If any of you could mail me privately this would be alot of help and I would be eternally grateful. Thankyou Helen "the gift" Mclean Although after trying to predict other betting things I realised that I have lost the gift.... it has been passed onto someone else, Ah the flighty nature of the gift, it cannot be tied down you know.. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Thu Nov 4 05:20:49 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 00:20:49 EST Subject: Sinister: tigermilk, descartes, Rock Animals, . Message-ID: <0.4a8a262d.255271b1@aol.com> In a message dated 11/3/99 12:45:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, svesolb at hotmail.com writes: << My girlfriend for the last two years is leaving me, but at the same time I just bought an original copy of Tigermilk for $320!!! >> First off, i'm very sorry about the breakup.. those are never fun. (obviously) Is anyone other than me surprised that people are buying original copies of Tigermilk? Did the value not decrease with the reissue of Tigermilk? Alasdair quoted someone as saying Does anyone else know of rock'n'roll animals who > have settled down to get proper jobs? one of the members of the Jam is a furniture restorer, i think. And Poly Styrene of X-Ray Specs was a Hari Krishna last i heard. I don't know if you consider handing out flowers in airports a proper job or not, but it's interesting trivia either way. alasdair also said You know, temporary insanity makes for excellent posts. If only I could write things like this. Sigh. Complete insanity, on the other hand, makes for very boring posts, judging from the content of my missives to sinister. INTELLECTUAL PART Does anyone else feel that Descartes eliminated all options but solipsism when he defined the basic starting point of philosophy as "Cogito, Ergo sum"? (i think therefore i am) i didn't think so. What's the latest animal peril from Thailand? dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rehakk at xxx.edu Thu Nov 4 07:34:23 1999 From: rehakk at xxx.edu (Kimberly Rehak) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 02:34:23 -0500 Subject: response to Sinister: Gear B&S Interview... Message-ID: <009401bf2697$04465aa0$a083c38d@rehakk.alleg.edu> hallo, one of my roommates (or "someone that i live with" or whatever i should refer to them as) pointed out the same interview to me. and about a month before he also directed mine eyes towards a simple review of tigermilk--which was their choice for album in the year...or something such as that. yes, i found it a bit odd. but nice, in a way. perhaps i had too much wine that day. i don't know. i should sleep now. * * * stars for all! * * * kimberly (the girl with the talking bed) "maybe tomorrow i'll see love in your eyes and mine will dry"--the magnetic fields +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Thu Nov 4 10:40:33 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:40:33 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Scrumpdelicious In-Reply-To: <0.4a8a262d.255271b1@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi! Thanks to those all who seemed interested in the question : Is NV's influence remarkable enough in 90's pop?I have decided finally to focus my own presentation,which will be saved on floppy disk to the future generations in case some Media student could be in need of one,on their policy of 'auteurism' which implies a degree of 'amateurism' or at least of careful manouvres when dealing with the establishment and the Kapital,represented by producers,companies and labels.Which is Struan's confessed treat. I had lots of lovely golden dreams about holidays and some Sinister party,I believe.No many memories left in the morning.I was reading for first time 'The BFG' before fallen asleep and no doubt they were brought by him.He speaks the English langwitch as I do,more or less,so sure he is my friend. Bertrand wondered how KOOL our boys are.There is a college in Wales where courses on 'being cool' will start next academic year,maybe Struan is trying to get a place in one of those,and his references about student life were meaning his worries on how he will fit with all these sheep around and teenagers venerating the rock where Rick's bones where seen for last time as the Kaaba.I guess that with independence in their minds,Welshmen (and women) have regarded coolness as a critical factor to revitalise their economy.Probably A-levels in sassiness and street cred will be introduced soon. Pavement,sorry,Stephen Malkmus is IT.Whatever it is.So he belongs to a different cathegory,he is a 'class act'.He should enter Kensington byelection and slammered the door in front of Portillo.Which so unmistakebly British name has to be pronounced 'Portilo',allegedly,by I refuse.'Portilyo',that's it. If I ever have a band,I would write a letter to Quentin Blake pleading for a cover.Why don't they? xxx Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starpiekat at xxx.uk Thu Nov 4 11:32:46 1999 From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 11:32:46 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Yo! Sinister! Message-ID: <19991104113246.4125.rocketmail@web1702.mail.yahoo.com> Hajimemashite you guys, Ah to be at home. I went to visit my pal Ross the Goth in Manchester Towne yesterday and worshipped at the wonder that is the Vinyl Exchange for the millionth time ever. Then I silently cursed it as it's very cheap prices on some godammed awful choons permitted Ross to buy a Sheep on Drugs album. And play it to me. "Oi you dumbum wanklefart, get this heap of ravey davey shite off that bluddy stereo NOW!!!", I enquired calmly. "Ok..." he replied. And puts on Brian Molko with David Bowie. I realise I have missed Ross. Ian The Gay Dirty Den is back! But Ian has lost somewhat of his allure in my eyes. And why is that? STEPS Ian! You had the opportunity to see them and you turned it down! Do you know their latest album of songles is called "Steptacular"?? Thats VERY GOOD! Great Pop Things like that don't come along a lot, y'know. Now if B&S had called their first album Tigermilktastic! then um....nothing much else would've changed I bet. But it'd be a much more Poptastic! name. And if B&S had called their third album "Deep Fried Gerbils are Great and Co-incidentally, Not To Boost Sales Or Anything But There Are Nuddy Pictures Of Stevie Jackson Contained Within Of This Long Playing Record", then they would've won a prize for a very long album title. Would "Yo! Belle & Sebastian!" be a good album title? I think WE should decide the name of the B&S newie. You can see the quality for yourselves eh... Would I LIKE to see Stevie Jackson with no pants on? Would I ever! Is Stevie an eligible bachelor too, or has he a bird? Or is he a big gay POOVE? Did I mention Chris Geddesh looks like Graham Coxon from Blur but lankier? I do mean this in a good way. He's a bit of sauce and no mistake. Anyway, I miss out on seeing STEPS at g.a.y on Saturday. Because I am located in the North West of Englonde. I might to go 'Smile'. As I'm not bothered if they don't play the olde records of yore. You know...discotheques have to grow...mature...and change, man. I want them to play Valerie Lemercier. Or Holiday. Or hopscotch. Ahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahaa. I was very touched by Stuart telling poor lost abandoned students who wish they'd never left their home in the North west to move to a place full of cockneys to live in a tiny room with no friends with an essay on proportional representation to write that they could write to him. Thats not me of course. But um...do you have to be at Glasgow uni to write to him? I reckon he's a lovely bloke. I have a little Tarepanda flopping about my screen. Its good. I'm going to take my leave of writing this now and watch the panda. Flop flop flop flop! Love Sarah xxx ===== ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Thu Nov 4 18:50:55 1999 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksAndAJill) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:50:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Gear! Message-ID: <199911041850.NAA26936@dept.english.upenn.edu> Thanks to you all, I read the issue of Gear at the Trenton train station (don't ask) looking quite the sophisticated (i.e. too wimpy to brazenly read hard porn) modern pervert, what with the in-your-face bikini'd girl on the front. "I'm reading it for the articles on wimpy Scottish folk-rock bands, really!" It did make for an interesting contrast though. Could it be that deep down inside that chauvinist exterior lies the teenage angsty pop kid who believed himself better than the other boys because he liked girls for who they were and in terms of A, B, C and D numbers? Nah, you're right, probably not. It was most likely a favor to one of the editor's old college pals..."Can you fill in four pages about anything you want? Bella who? Well, that sounds great, is she hot?" What becomes a legend most? Stories where the writer tracks down the reclusive artist and talks to the locals. Just smacks of some kind of artsy documentary idea doesn't it? Being Stuart Murdoch...oh well, at least he didn't appear too painfully eccentric or emotionally frail. I hate that, when it seems like the only thing the artist was meant to do was create his or her art, yet they're unable to go down to the store and buy some eggs or something. 'Course, I suppose in some circles his Morrissey fascination won't win him too many points. This is not one of those circles, however. I hope B&S are aware of the fact that the re-release of _Tigermilk_ after _The Boy_ might put some pressure on them...and that they bring back the R-O-C-K in a big way. I wonder--the fourth album is bound to bring some more interesting things into the mix I'm sure. Slightly stylistically different songs, perhaps an emphasis on soul? Who knows. Hopefully they don't get too carried away with the artistry and think they have to go all avant-garde in order to stay "relevant." Fuck relevance, just stay good anyway anyhow. Back to the work I should have started, Xavier BXK bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu | www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 It's what kind of hair you have on the inside that counts.--G.S. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tom999x at xxx.com Thu Nov 4 20:44:31 1999 From: tom999x at xxx.com (Tom Lee) Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 20:44:31 GMT Subject: Sinister: Paris 98 Message-ID: <19991104204431.254.qmail@hotmail.com> Good day everyone. It's my Dad's Birthday today. Happy Birthday! I came by, purely by chance, a b&s bootleg from the paris 98 concert. It's an -A grade (approx). Anyone want to trade? Reply off list. Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tom ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From markniciu at xxx.com Fri Nov 5 06:24:22 1999 From: markniciu at xxx.com (Mark Niciu) Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 22:24:22 PST Subject: Sinister: Reminder and Update: Top 15 (not 20) Albums of 1999 Message-ID: <19991105062423.55534.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi gals and guys, I just wanted to refresh your memories regarding my compiling a list of the "Top 20 Albums (LPs) of 1999". To date, I have only received 5 entries (and, albeit I appreciate his contribution, one entry listed only 8 albums). Nevertheless, to update the rules that I had previously presented, you need only provide 15 LPs (not the previous 20 that I had requested). This should alleviate the strain on some of our brains and proscribe one from having scrounge among less quality LPs in an effort to round out the 20. In addition, feel free to send this list as late as 1 February 2000. Thus, LPs that some of us have been anticipating, e.g. Gorky's Zygotic Mynci (my friend has renamed "Spanish Dance Troupe" the album of the year), the Charlatans, and Bernard Butler, but whose release dates fall after the 1 November 1999 date that I previously recommended for submittal may be included in the fray. I'll briefly present a synopsis of some of the lists that I have received. It appears to have been a breakthrough year musically for us Amerks, as the Flaming Lips' "The Soft Bulletin" (#1 on two of the five lists received), Beulah's "When Your Heartstrings Break", and Wilco's "Summerteeth" seem to be staples, understandingly enough, among those who have submitted. Some notable LPs, to my ears, that have been ranked low or omitted altogether are: 1. The Chemical Brothers "Surrender" - This is hands down the best dance/electronic album to be released this year. 2. Super Furry Animals "Guerrilla" - With Gorky's Zygotic Mynci, these Weslh lads are most innovative group around, and their new LP demonstrates their ability to experiment beautifully, e.g. "Northern Lites", "Wherever I Lay My Phone" and the splendid ballad "Fire in My Heart". 3. Mogwai "Come On Die Young" - The Glasgow lads show some versatility with this release, Iggy Pop's on "Punk Rock", and "Christmas Steps" is apocalyptic! 4. Salako "Musicality" - Somewhat surprisingly, little love has been demonstrated for Belle and Sebastian's labelmates. I saw them at the CMJ Music Festival in New York and, although Snow Patrol stole some of their thunder, they were quite charming and their music was quite catchy. I've said my piece! Now vote all 1000 or so of you sinisterites for your top 15 masterpieces (or scrounge some here and there) by sending your list to markniciu at hotmail.com Peace, ~M ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Fri Nov 5 08:27:10 1999 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 03:27:10 EST Subject: Sinister: value of original Tigermilk has not decreased at all Message-ID: <0.4c985286.2553eede@aol.com> Someone asked about this recently. I parted with my original since I have the reissue on vinyl and CD. It went for $562 on e-bay. I hated to part with it but I needed a digital stage piano for my band gigs much more right now. Pete Gianakopoulos +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bertrand.Caron at xxx.se Fri Nov 5 08:54:24 1999 From: Bertrand.Caron at xxx.se (Bertrand Caron) Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 09:54:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: happy Message-ID: <38229B40.4A3B7CC3@uab.ericsson.se> Happy birthday to me! If someone wants to make me a present, an original version of tigermilk would be a perfect idea +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From macarthur at xxx.com Fri Nov 5 10:12:52 1999 From: macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 10:12:52 -0000 Subject: Sinister: naming and shaming References: <19991104113246.4125.rocketmail@web1702.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004b01bf2776$87ec55a0$ab5fac3e@default> Dear Lot, Super sta-force: > turned it down! Do you know their latest album of songles is called > "Steptacular"?? Thats VERY GOOD! I was dissapointed, I was hoping they'd call it 'Step Two' and the third 'Step 3' and keep going like that until you had a whole flight of stairs. Did you know that 'H' from steps is called 'H' after 'Hyperactive'. I wonder what his real name is. Something cute, I bet. His angelic face was staring back at me from a huge posterboard on oxford street outside HMV the other day. It scared me so much, I almost didn't go in and spend half an hour aimlessly ambling around in the rock/pop section, and scratching the bottom of the bargin bin. The adorable Jen said said that someone gave her a smack in the chops for trying to play belle and sebastian at a party. Luckily the last time I did that, I escaped unharmed, but was concequently outcast from the houseparty massive. Mind you, I did bite the person's hand who was trying to change the cd, so maybe I'm the villan. Perhaps Electronic Renassiance would have gone down better than Put The Book Back on the Shelf. I nearly got beaten up for saying Pulp were better than Robson and Jerome once. They said they were going to get me after school. I didn't have the feisty gaul I've now adopted, because I was a porker with frizzy hair. I decided to go red, look at my feet, burst out crying in matrons and go home sick. Don't worry, I'm sure the bullies have got a nice sexually transmitted disease by now. and talking of diseases, Christopher Mellan, STOP sending me rude letters about my "peachy bottom" or I'll send the boys round. I've taken to not wearing any make-up under my eyes, to reveal dark circles in ghoulish wonder. It does wonders for extending essay deadlines, even if I do look like a walking corpse. I'll be at the poetry cafe tonight - fully made-up, mind, sipping gin and chattering madly, I should think. Do say hello if you're there. Erica x Mick Cooke mailed the list the other day. My heart skipped a beat. Erica x http://chickpages.com/rants/golighty/index.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Fri Nov 5 10:26:52 1999 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 02:26:52 PST Subject: Sinister: about Hefner and B&S Message-ID: <19991105102653.76065.qmail@hotmail.com> Well I interview Darren Hayman from Hefner for Sue-magazine via e-mail, as I've said before. Jsut a few questions, nothing spectacular. Well, thought you'd like to know what he said, escpecially since it's a bit about B&S too. Anyway, here it goes... 1) So, Fidelity Wars out and you've been doing some gigs in the UK. How's it been? Good, suprising, we thought only people in London knew about us really, the further north we went the more they danced. 2) It seems to me that you are in some sense a love/hate band: People either love your music or can't stand the slow jive you've got in your groove... Any truth in this? Or do you even care what people say about you? We care a little about what people think, as we are interested in our audience, but not in a way that governs what we do. I think any artist worth their salt wants a love/hate thing rather then a like thing. 3) I've got this impression that people tend to put you in the same category with the likes of Belle&Sebastian and others, you know, clever lyrics and semiacoustic music. Do you think that's accurate? Can you relate to, say, B&S? I can relate to them to an extent, but theres quite a few differences too. Belle & Sebastian create this world which doesn't really exist in real life and that gets on my nerves after a while, nice people though. 4) What do you think of people who, while talking about music, throw these lesser known bands into the discussion so they can prove how "in" they are? You ever do that? It happens in all musicscenes, wether it's Trance or House or Indie or whatever. Or do you just rock on and not give a damn about these things? Well its true, people who know about lesser, more obscure bands are more 'in' it proves they love music more. I do it all the time and I know I'm right. To prove it I'm listening right now to the Extra-glens. 5) What are you like when you're drunk? Get into fights or just sit around in the corner hoping that no-one notices you? I'm OK when I'm drunk, I talk a little less. 6) Any plans to tour Europe? You were in Stockholm but that was just a promotional-tour, wasn't it? Finland would be nice, you know... Never been to Stockholm, we want to come to Scandanavia. 7) What next? Now you've got horns and scratching in "Fidelity Wars"... You going to pull off a Neil Hannon or Burt Baccarah and get some big orchastration behind you to your next album? Just to put Hannon and Baccarach in the same sentence. Hannon is a buffoon. He uses violins in the same way Oasis use guitars, just pile them on. There was 3 more question, but since I screw them up a little (never mind, I wont go into details) I'll leave them out. Rock on 'till the break of break of dawn, @-->-- Jake That was it, you can go on with your lives now. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris_leak at xxx.uk Fri Nov 5 12:12:08 1999 From: chris_leak at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?CHRIS=20LEAK?=) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:12:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Ooberman on John Peel Message-ID: <19991105121208.25339.rocketmail@web1305.mail.yahoo.com> Bonfire night greetings to all and sundry. Not that I condone home taping but did anyone happen to tape Ooberman on John Peel last night? If you did can you let me know cause I caught most of it in the car and they were really good. Bless Leaky ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Nov 5 12:35:08 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 13:35:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: OON-der a Blood Red Sky Message-ID: <01bf278a$32589720$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Last night on the telly: the jazz tootlin' King of Thailand showing that he's the only practioner of rare Exotica who walks it like he talks it. He was being paddled with golden paddles on a massive canoe up the crocodile infested river that runs through downtown Bangrak. He was taking photos of his own ceremony. What a monarch! I've seen Blake Witch Project. In the toilets beforehand, there were some very disturbing sounds coming from one of the cubicles. Either someone was having a bum or an extremely noisy wank. It put me right off the matter in hand, so I went to the upstairs toilets instead. I had heard that Blake Witch Project had benefitted from unusual promotion, so I was half expecting buzzers under the seats, but I thought this heavy breathing in the bogs business was going a bit too far. It might well have had nothing to do with Blake Witch Project, the other screen was showing A Midsummer Night's Dream starring Ally McBeal, and who can honestly say that they haven't had a good chug about Ally McBeal? No, no, don't go away! I didn't mean it. Later on, two dishevelled red faced young scamps came in, I think it was them. Having said that, I was acutely conscious of the possibility that someone might have thought it was me. I could've sworn they were looking at me funny... I wasn't very scared by the film, much to my relief, but it was good. I think it was the gamekeeper. They're always hanging things up in the woods. They're buggers, so they are. Pam and Mike, you have now joined the select company of people I've made poor qualty tapes for but haven't sent yet. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 5 13:21:10 1999 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetryplace2) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 13:21:10 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Shoot that poison sparrow Message-ID: <01bf2790$a001a720$046b9ac2@g5-200-3> I'm coming toward ya, like Lucretia Borgia It's not my birthday and my girlfriend hasn't left me and I don't have a vinyl copy of Tigermilk in the post, so instead I've been thinking about the pulchritudinous Clare Grogan in Gregory's Girl. More specifically, her beret. The Frenchman in Stockholm raised the vexed issue of cool - what is it, who has it, how can I get some - but a thornier question still is how to fly in the face of all accepted notions of style, and yet still come out with some semblance of cool. The beret is a fascinating case in point: Clare Grogan = cool / Frank Spencer = not cool Che Guevara = cool / Norman Wisdom = not cool Jean-Paul Sartre = cool / Max-out-of-Rushmore = not cool What we learn from these equations is that cool has tended to be the preserve of early eighties Scottish singers, Latin America revolutionaries and Parisian philosophers, and very rarely of clumsy little speccy fellas. Tony Hancock in The Rebel is obviously the exception that proves the rule. I wonder if Stuart Murdoch would look cool in a beret? HMMMMMMM. He should wear one when he addresses the comrades at the Revolutionary Socialist gang-wankathon this evening. Hey! It's Bonfire Night tonight,and it's pissing down. What a surprise. If you're not going to burn the papists in Lewes, or watch Tim Hopkins run round with a flaming barrel of tar on his back in Exeter why not sample some jingle-jangle strumming from Bromide and The Foxgloves at London's Poetry Cafe? For details, email me at poetryplace2 at easynet.co.uk Have a good weekend Stevie Troussé PS: Mr Miller, I'll get back to you on Monday, if that's ok? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Archel1978 at xxx.com Fri Nov 5 14:00:25 1999 From: Archel1978 at xxx.com (Archel1978 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:00:25 EST Subject: Sinister: love won't destroy us in the end Message-ID: <0.ee4dfc9f.25543cf9@aol.com> hello sinister, sorry if i'm a bit behind. i'm obviously not fully recovered from being dragged from the smoggy womb of london town and deposited in the chilly playpen of sussex, because i was convinced that bertrand the french thought that the pavements in stockholm were inherently cool. i was about to post some intellectual point about streets being paved with metaphorical gold, in this case the gold of coolness, then i read it again. you should really use capitals you know... oh. what a fabulously funny film gregory's girl is. i would never have believed that something made in 1980 could be that good. i mean, look at 'the empire strikes back'. and that bloke did look like alisdair, if he was wearing a dodgy wig. but what a shame john gordon sinclair doesn't still look like one of the flowerpot men. in an attempt to fill the (actually quite small) void left by my boyfriend, i've decided to do one thing every day that is suggested to me by a favourite song. yesterday i built a space rocket with boy who plays bass guitar, today i wrote 'porn is woman hatred' on someone's overcoat, and tomorrow i will hopefully be meeting someone at the cemet(e)ry gates. and when i get bored of that, i'm damn well going to sleep the clock around, because let's face it, i haven't got much to get up for at the moment. (that was meant as a literal statement referring to my lack of employment, not a cry for help.) i've got to go now, you know how it is. popes to burn, people to see. sorry to anyone who was intending to come to lewes, but proving just how modern and welcoming a country town can be, they've closed the railway station. who says we've got something to hide? it's not the *real* pope you know. "twelve tons of cornflakes pass under this bridge every day" luv archel xxx ********* Rachel Playforth archel at iname.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From igh1 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 5 16:08:30 1999 From: igh1 at xxx.uk (igh1) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 16:08:30 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Felt . . . (NON - B&S) In-Reply-To: <19991105121208.25339.rocketmail@web1305.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: hello one and all, totally un-b&s related, and for that i apologies whole-heartedly (especially to mummy, please don't be cross :-)) anyway, i'm thinking of buying a felt album - which do sinisterines recommend??? (please reply off-list) once again, sorry for clogging up all your mail boxes . . . meekishly, ian. *********************** Ian Hatcher igh1 at ukc.ac.uk rutherford jcc ents#1 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From markniciu at xxx.com Sat Nov 6 00:47:16 1999 From: markniciu at xxx.com (Mark Niciu) Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 16:47:16 PST Subject: Sinister: Quick reminder about "Top 15 Albums of 1999" List Message-ID: <19991106004716.4309.qmail@hotmail.com> List Lads and Lasses, I have received a couple of entries today for "Top 15 Albums of 1999" from enthusiastic contributors. Just one brief reminder that I mentioned previously: only new albums (LPs), viz., those released in 1999 in their country of origin, may be included in this list! Therefore, no compilations, reissues, e.g. "Tigermilk", EPs, etc., may be voted for in the "Top 15 Albums of 1999" list. As promised, there will be a list for the best compilations, reissues, tribute albums (although I think that most of these absolutely suck!), EPs, etc., at a later date. Just give me some time to collate your entries for the "Top 15 Albums of 1999" into a master Sinister list and enter this onto a separate web site. In addition, I'll post individual entries onto this site. If you would not like your list available for all to visualize, just let me know when submitting, and I'll respect your confidentiality. Sorry for two posts in one digest, Honey List Mummy! Mark ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bobsleaf at xxx.uk Sat Nov 6 01:11:07 1999 From: bobsleaf at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?robert=20sleaford?=) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 01:11:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: pineapple chunks Message-ID: <19991106011107.19578.rocketmail@web1702.mail.yahoo.com> hello, i found my voice, just to say hi and let you all know that ive been ear-wigging you all for 2 weeks. bye 4 now... bobsleaf ===== ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ian at xxx.uk Sat Nov 6 11:47:42 1999 From: ian at xxx.uk (ian) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 11:47:42 -0000 Subject: Sinister: about a boy who's just like me....and about peter waterman Message-ID: <000001bf284c$d951b760$392e883e@default> hello.. the perils of identifying with a character in a song.. the first b&s song i ever loved was "get me away from here i'm dying". the boy with naivety sounded just a little familiar and i liked the way he won at the end. the narrator of the song seemed like a kindred spirit too, desperately looking around for someone he felt he could identify with, someone who he thought resembled him. its something i've always done. which is why, going back to the song and playing it, and finding the boy with naivety isn't really very much like me at all is a little disconcerting. the narrator still seems like the kind of person i could have a cup of tea, a chat and a quick bonk with but a boy with naivety? no...the cynical hat fits much too well these days.. i look inside myself and i wonder where the said boy went. sometimes i look at myself and wonder who the fuck the boy with naivety was, and what he was doing inside me in the first place... no pun intended.. anwyay, onto other things..steps, in fact (there's some more b&s content further down...do not despair) >Ian The Gay Dirty Den is back! But Ian has lost somewhat of his allure in my >eyes. And why is that? STEPS Ian! You had the opportunity to see them and you >turned it down *sigh* call it over-exposure sarah. there's only so much one sane fellow can take. and i will never be able to reconcile myself to the fact that they are managed by peter waterman. its not the brit award thing (and i'm sure that's been discussed to death on here, so i won't go any further into it).. its not the fact that he launched big fun onto the world, and allowed them to do what they did to "blame it on the boogie"...its not even that horrible programme he used to present with michaela strachan... its the fact that he's successful. oh no, sorry...that was the real reason. and i wanted to hide it beneath a score of witty remarks. bugger. i watched a programme the other day where the silly git claimed that without him there would never have been any disco music, the reason being that he brought silver convention over here from germany. huh? i think nile rodgers, sylvester, donna summer and even little tina charles might have something to say about that.. anyway, back to the b&s content. sarah again: >Would "Yo! Belle & Sebastian!" be a good album title? I think WE should decide >the name of the B&S newie. You can see the quality for yourselves eh... i think this should become a list competition. i will judge, and award a prize in a completely arbitrary and biased manner to the one i like best. if anyone else bothers to enter. unfortunately, the best suggestion i could come up with is: "the return of the bedraggled fang-granny from the swamp of death" not tres twee i know, but i think planning a halloween party tonight has gone to my head. i am to be a human sacrifice. what does the modern human sacrifice about town wear these days, do you know? finally, erica...: >Did you know that 'H' from steps is called 'H' after 'Hyperactive'. I wonder >what his real name is. Something cute, I bet. erm....(whispers) i am a little saddened that i know this, but perhaps i am more of a closet fan than i realise..... the boy's name is ian. sob. mind you he'd be very nice to bend over a - no..no he wouldn't. that's just me succumbing to media hype. he's not attractive at all. really. honestly. i'm not naive enough to believe that any more cynical closet steps fan ian..............sort of like a gay dirty den really +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Archel1978 at xxx.com Sat Nov 6 18:10:01 1999 From: Archel1978 at xxx.com (Archel1978 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 13:10:01 EST Subject: Sinister: firestarter Message-ID: <0.bb9ecf0e.2555c8f9@aol.com> well, after last night there can be no further doubt: fireworks are better than sex. and i'm not just saying that because i'm not getting any of the latter. the display at the end of the lewes festivities was amazing, and possibly only heightened by the stoned people behind me going "oooooh, looks like alien ships! jellyfish!" there are some experiences which can't be described, and you will just have to imagine the thrill of standing in a muddy field with 3000 people, all watching the sky become the most beautiful thing ever, all cheering and gasping involuntarily in perfect sync. i imagine watching b&s play live would be a similarly transcendental experience, actually, but sadly i haven't had the chance to find out yet. if i was forced to choose between giving up orgasms and giving up fireworks... well, it would be a tough call at the moment. as for choosing between b&s and orgasms, should we take a poll on this one? anyway, the whole night was fantastic as ever, complete with processions of mongol hordes, zulus, vikings, tudors and pirates. someone pointed out that it looked a bit like a gay pride march, but i would have to disagree. much more gaudy and kitsch. also, as a letter in the local paper revealed, the average lewes resident thinks that someone who prefers their own gender is called a 'homosexualist'. how we laughed. and then we laughed some more at our hapless guests from tame cambridge, who spent the whole evening with their mouths open in disbelief, a dangerous activity considering the numbers of bangers, embers, and suspicious hot dogs flying around. us locals take it all in our stride, even the riot police and the burning tar barrels, but i'm not ashamed to be awestruck by the fireworks. i'm going to see some more tonight, could i be becoming an addict? not much b&s content, although i dare say there was a boy with an arab strap in the parade somewhere. starry-eyed hugs, archel xxx ********* Rachel Playforth archel at iname.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Sat Nov 6 19:17:02 1999 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 14:17:02 EST Subject: Sinister: oh but I really do want to be an owl...maybe Message-ID: <0.6bed6758.2555d8ae@aol.com> Karaoke queen by catatonia's pants. But i bought it anyway today, because I was feeling reckless. I had a day long band practise today. Sort of like a workshop. Only not. We practised, made an ad for more members on the computer, went into town and put it up in the music shop, pissed about in the town, and then practised some more. I've re-discovered the joy of the lazy line painter jane ep. I don't like that lady's voice though. Couldn't they have got Bel to sing her bit? Also, I like the way stuart sings shitty. Like he's going to say it but wants to think about whether it would be maybe not nice to swear when lots of nice innocent children might buy the record and go home at night saying "shitty" to their parents, then he realises that probably not a great many young innocent children will buy the record, when they could be buying something that doesn't contain swear words. then maybe he thinks that, if he doesn't swear then little children might buy it. But then he maybe think that little children won't buy it for a different reason, like maybe because belle and sebastian haven't been on live and kicking. And all the while he's dragging out the shhhh part, while all this races through his brain at a million miles an hour. Before he says the rest of the word, only a fraction of a second behind the beat. And why does a century of elvis sound so much like a century of fakers except with talking? I wonder what made me put lazy line painter jane on today. I so much wanted to listen to dog on wheels. The scarf i'm knitting's nearly long enough to wear. It's taken me weeks. Maybe when I can knit faster I'll go into business. Maybe I'd rather get a paper round. Sarah asked us what we thought a good title would be for the next belle and sebsatian album. I think that a good title would maybe be The Owls. Or something like This Album Has Got A Sitar On It. Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ELZober at xxx.com Fri Nov 5 23:07:13 1999 From: ELZober at xxx.com (ELZober at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 18:07:13 EST Subject: Sinister: Welcome Back Kotter... Message-ID: <0.c65633fd.2554bd21@aol.com> A big hell to those who sin in the name of Belle and Sebastian... i've been unsubscribed for some time now, after the whole Select deal where they used my post as a quote i was a bit annoyed. (any Select bastards reading this - i hope you can see my two fingers....) first they give ALL my photo credits to some other wanker, then they quote me..... tossers... anyway, it's nice to be back in that land of sin, i've missed it - and it seems i've missed quite a bit while i was away.. a few days ago someone asked why anyone would want to buy an original copy of Tigermilk... perhaps this is obvious, but i didn't find anything specific in the archive, so i thought i'd recap a few things... while the new version is great, it's also been remastered on several songs among other things - if you have an original copy you can hear the difference... mind you, it's not a bad thing. also, the original was ONLY on vynil, and they were ALL miss-punched - the center hole is off center and it causes the record to skip, the more you play it, the more it skips and scratches itself. that is why those who own originals don't play them and went out and bought new copies. i've never played mine. well, i hope that wasn't too repetitious, with all these new nursery kids, it's bound to be new to someone... it's nice to see you all doing so well. i hope you all had a nice bonfire night (in the UK) i made Guy Fawkes and left him in the lounge with a sign, "A Penney for the Guy" and made .25 - not bad for Americans who have no clue who he is! snoggs elle +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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From: =?iso-8859-1?q?robert=20sleaford?= Subject: Sinister: pineapple chunks Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 01:11:07 +0000 (GMT) Size: 3465 URL: From Poppixxie at xxx.com Sun Nov 7 06:13:55 1999 From: Poppixxie at xxx.com (Poppixxie at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 01:13:55 EST Subject: Sinister: cat power and jealousy Message-ID: <0.3e9d6ba7.255672a3@aol.com> hello all! i wanted to see if any new york area sinister kiddies were heading toward the knitting factory this saturday for the cat power show. lauren and i had been talking about our envy for all the lovely european b&s meetups and have decided to take it upon ourselves to work out one of our own over on this shores. [consonance anyone]... anyhow, i know mark and micheal are from the area but i'm sure out of the throngs of sinistees there are others whose abode is located near the city of sin and goodness itself. love, shawnee! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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From: "ian" Subject: Sinister: about a boy who's just like me....and about peter waterman Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 11:47:42 -0000 Size: 6792 URL: From jj at xxx.com Sun Nov 7 16:24:03 1999 From: jj at xxx.com (jj) Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 10:24:03 -0600 Subject: Sinister: fwd: hmm Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19991107102403.009f4d20@pop.mindspring.com> A friend in Toronto sent me the following. Can anyone shed some light on this? Is there a meet-up scheduled for that day? The only thing I could find in the archives was for the 6th. xojj >Delivered-To: jj at monkey.org >Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 03:13:11 -0500 (EST) >From: liz clayton >X-Sender: lclayton at qbert.gpcc.itd.umich.edu >To: jj >Subject: hmm > >so there's an ad here for a club (a weird club) that sez "belle and >sebastian" are playing 11/19. could this be true? can't find any info on >b&s page, jeepster, matador.. > > * * * http://www.monkey.org/~jj * * * +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mickcooke at xxx.com Sun Nov 7 18:06:43 1999 From: mickcooke at xxx.com (mickcooke at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:06:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Diary of a Band on Website Message-ID: <99110713064300.00413@webb2.iname.net> Hi there, I know that Katrina has been keeping you up to date with every exciting installment of Stuart and Beans' "Diary of a Band" from the Glasgow University Guardian so far. I have just added every installment to the band website, under the 'bus' page. I'll be updating it every time the Guardian comes out, which is once every two weeks. The next one is due out on Wednesday the 10th November, the same day, incidentally, that Salako are playing Nice'n'Sleazy's (Sauchiehall Street, Glasgow). I'd thoroughly recommend going along to see them, if you are in the area. I played with them in Hull and Liverpool and they were great, Cheers, Mick http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sjason at xxx.com Sun Nov 7 18:49:57 1999 From: sjason at xxx.com (Jason Scott) Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 10:49:57 PST Subject: Sinister: B+S Toronto gig/sham/SfC Message-ID: <19991107184958.1435.qmail@hotmail.com> ok, jj, I've come out of lurk-status (for 2 months!) to relay an answer to your woes about this B+S rumour thing. In fact, last night, charming angel in T.O. had a get-together which I hoped went well,(Angel?). Terribly sorry I missed it, but I was cold and drunk at a football game instead (shame on my priorities!). Anyways, last night's meet up was Part 1, Part 2 will be happening at Ranch Relaxo upstairs on Thursday Nov. 19th. It's titled "Songs for Children", hosted by deb, contains a whole lotta B+S record-playing, and i WILL be there for THAT this time, I swear! THAT is the so-called gig that you are wondering about,which isn't really a gig at all, is it? In fact, if you locals pick up this weeks "eye" magazine (with Bryan Ferry on the cover), turn to the bottom of pg 28 where Rancho Relaxo's ad is, it says "DIRECT FROM GLASGOW--BELLE & SEBASTIAN". I even called the place to ask them what the deal was. He cut me off mid sentence like it was his millionth annoying call that day, and told me "no, no...it's a LIE. It's just...someone's playing records by them all night." Fair enough. Are you behind all this propaganda deb? Quite ingenious. I want a shirt off you, by the way, if you are going to be selling them. Perhaps I should go around town and collect all the eye mags I see and clip out the tiny ads and wallparer my room with them. They might be worth something one day. Oh, and I'm worried: over dinner with a very good female companion, I said I was going to go to the S.F.C. night. She sneered and said "WHY would you want to go to some bar where everyone looks like Chris(brit-pop friend), hear them play nothing but Belle & Sebastian ALL night, sit around on couches or something, and do *this* (proceeds to snap fingers in a mod/cool cat/hipster kinda way with mouth open and brainless look on her face). So what do you all think of that? I hope to God that's not what it's like. Except for the playing of B+S all night long. If it is, I plan to get drunk and bitch-slap all your little mugs and tell you "lighten up!". In a nice way, I mean. Because you know, I want to have all your children...let's be social, shall we? Can't wait to meet you all, sorry I couldn't make it last night, Angel. =( "I KISS YOU!!!!!" -Mahir, 1999 jason d. "back to lurking again" scott ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mickcooke at xxx.com Sun Nov 7 19:06:59 1999 From: mickcooke at xxx.com (mickcooke at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 14:06:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Diary of a Band Message-ID: <991107140659J2.13450@webb2.iname.net> Hi there, I have put all the exciting installments of Stuart and Chris' 'Diary of a Band' from the Glasgow University Guardian on the band website, on the 'bus' page. I'll be updating it every time the Guardian comes out, which is once every two weeks. The next one is due out on Wednesday the 10th November, the same day Salako are playing Nice'n'Sleazy (Sauchiehall Street, Glasgow). I'd thoroughly recommend going to see them if you are in the area. I played with them in Hull and Liverpool and they were great, Cheers, Mick http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Sun Nov 7 19:08:54 1999 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 19:08:54 BST Subject: Sinister: chirpy chirpy cheep cheep - ie i'm happy Message-ID: <16D8B2E76B8@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> hey kids, just waded through four days worth of posts, although thankfully that doesn't amount to as many as it used to do, so my brain is not as mangled as it night have been. just in case any of you were worrying, my tonsilitis has subsided for the time-being, although i'm still just about sore enough to continue to feel sorry for myself for the time-being. i felt the urge to post today, despite having nothing at all to say, and was beginning to feel guilty, when i recalled an anecdote that is both relevant and at least worth skim reading, so if you're sitting comfortably, i'll begin.... think back if you will to bowlie and the long trek that many of us had to make to get there and back.(i wasn't on the list at the time, so i couldn't share this then, but bear with me) around ten of us had hired a minibus (complete with driver) as our preferred method of transportation. our little group of people were scattered around the north of england and our proposed meeting place was someone's house in manchester, so my then boyfriend and i made the trip across from leeds in his car. all ran smoothly until we (sic) managed to crash in slow-moving traffic in manchester city centre. this was not too traumatic, but wait until i put it in context. the journey to the south coast, although slow, was fairly uneventful, except that we arrived at around midnight, thus missing the delgados. after a fun and beer filled (but my alcohol induced antics on the saturday are another story) weekend, the time came for us to go home. as promised, our minibus and driver were waiting for us outside camber sands and we embarked, with only a warning from the driver that he would have to 'nurse the clutch' on the way because the bus had not been very well. this did not seem like too much to worry about ++the bloke sat next to me in the computer cluster just fell asleep, he was sort of nodding, i am amused++ until a couple of miles into the journey we began to slow down and shortly rolled to a halt at the side of the road. you may have been in one of the vehicles that passed us, on your way to the comfort of your own beds, and you may have laughed heartily, as i would have done. we stayed by the side of the road for some time, long enough for my boyfriend to walk to a nearby town and back just because he felt like it. eventually, a man from the aa arrived and towed us to the aforementioned town of rye. here we remained, because the aa could not take us home, and the driver could not get hold of another minibus. some of you may have seen us at rye train station as we threw stones at posters of ronan keating to pass the time. the solution to our predicament was for a man in one of those trucks that can pick up vehicles and his friend in a car to come and rescue us. i don't know where they came from, or why it took so long, but arrive they did, and soon we were travelling up the m4 at speed. that brings to an end my exciting bowlie breakdown service story, and it was more dull then i at first thought. there is, however another bit; on the way back we stopped at some services and those of us who were travelling in the trucky thing had a chat with the people in the car, which came equipped with a radio. on meeting each other, those in the car rushed up and said 'jill dando's been murdered' well if stuff wasn't surreal enough to begin with that just made it. that isn't the sort of news you believe when told in such a fashion and i had to phone my dad to confirm it. phew!! i'm glad thats out of my system, thanks for persevering, i think i'll leave it there for now. stay beautiful, fiona ++++"now more than ever seems it rich to die, to cease upon the midnight with no pain" just for once i'm too happy for keats, but i can still try to bring myself down++++ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mickcooke at xxx.com Sun Nov 7 20:37:57 1999 From: mickcooke at xxx.com (mickcooke at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 15:37:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Diary of a Band Message-ID: <991107153757IZ.13449@webb2.iname.net> Hi there, I have put all the exciting installments of Stuart and Chris' 'Diary of a Band' from the Glasgow University Guardian on the band website, on the 'bus' page. I'll be updating it every time the Guardian comes out, which is once every two weeks. The next one is due out on Wednesday the 10th November, the same day Salako are playing Nice'n'Sleazy (Sauchiehall Street, Glasgow). I'd thoroughly recommend going to see them if you are in the area. I played with them in Hull and Liverpool and they were great, Cheers, Mick http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From adrock at xxx.com Mon Nov 8 01:02:18 1999 From: adrock at xxx.com (Mike Jones) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 20:02:18 -0500 Subject: Sinister: casio punk Message-ID: <000501bf2984$e881b620$b4d88dcc@oemcomputer> rah!! new looper LP in april!! go to the treehouse... i laughed rather hard when i read the suggestion of "yo! belle and sebastian" for the new LP...perhaps belle will change her name to "the IZA" and struan will be "ol crusty wanker" from now on. oh, i cannot wait. um, i'm going to be in new york city this friday attempting to take some pictures...i'm visiting other music around 3 PM to procure a copy of cornelius's "96/69", if anyone in sinister will be around it'd be quite rad to meet them...i'll be wearing my white b&s tshirt and blue and red adidas trainers... i know awhile back i had mentioned i was recording songs with toy instruments and such...well, my casio went on the fritz but it's working again, so i'm going back to my hobby and i promise that the people who emailed me about tapes...you havent been forgotten (though you probably forgot about me...sniff) until tomorrow, my friends. je t'aime gracias, aloha, bonjour, mike j adrock at netrom.com **ape shall never kill ape** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 8 01:59:09 1999 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 01:59:09 BST Subject: Sinister: my kingdom for some jam Message-ID: <1745FCD62AD@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> hey kids, sorry for posting again, but i thought it better to do one quite long one and a short one, rather than one of an unmanageable length. hmm, a metaphor for life perhaps. just wanted to say, went to see richard dj at smile on saturday, there were some good tunes floating about, but there were far too many people squished together, so i couldn't stun everyone with my perfunctory dance moves, and i was quite drunk. all in all it was just ok. i don't actually like jam, but i love the brand that simply calls itself jam and writes the word in really big letters JAM JAM JAM so you feel obliged to shout JAM whenever you see it, or perhaps thats just me. stay beautiful y'all, fiona if anyone knows anything about the work of thomas malory help me because i keep falling asleep whilst reading him, and i've an essay to write. cheers +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Mon Nov 8 02:08:13 1999 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 21:08:13 EST Subject: Sinister: Maybe after he's gone she'll come back and love me again... Message-ID: <0.3dafdb41.25578a8d@aol.com> Anyone have any idea what in the heck is the deal with the B&S band site? I tried to access it and I was queried as to my user name and password. I figured it was just an ugly formality (not necessary) so I just hit the OK button without entering any info and I was promptly shown the door. Not sure what to make of it but I hope it gets taken care of real soon. I finally sat down and listened to the Zombies' Odessey and Oracle recently and I think its definitely one of the best releases of the 60s. A perfect mix of the Beatles and Beach Boys that somehow still sounds totally original. Any other Zombies fans on the list other than Isobel? Love and messy hangovers Steve C. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From simongooch at xxx.uk Mon Nov 8 02:04:03 1999 From: simongooch at xxx.uk (Simon Gooch) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 02:04:03 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Actual B&S content! (but you have to scroll down a bit) Message-ID: <002e01bf298d$a09af2a0$0b32893e@mqeywdzn> Hello fruity chums, A big Huzzah! for the massive revival of interest in Gregory's Girl in the last digest, but has anyone actually *seen* this movie? Posters have been up in dirty London town for a good couple of months now but I've yet to read a single review and no-one I know seems to have the foggiest when it's due out. Is this some sort of far-fetched government conspiracy cover-up to stop the KIDS finding out the TRUTH!? Or has Bill Forsyth, angered at the damning stance the media took over the spree of copycat murders perpetrated by gangly boys in blue Marilyn Monroe t-shirts that followed in the wake of the original Gregory's Girl, pulled a Kubrick and *gasp* banned his own movie? But somehow very quietly and without telling anyone about it. Answers, suggestions and abuse to the usual address... On a B&S tip (ing-a-die-a-die-a-waddle-I-die). I think that the new LPs title should certainly be 'un homage' to The Greatest Scottish Movie Ever Made (EVER!), seeing as how, in my head, Belle and Sebastian are just the kids from Gregory's Girl grown up a bit and with better haircuts. 'So I Should Stop Thinking So Much About Love And Start Thinking More About Colours' would be a good one, or from the same scene; 'They Don't Do Blue Coffees Here Madeline, No Style'. My choice however would be the doomed attempt at a catchphrase from the older, more worldly-wise, window-cleaner bloke; 'If I Don't See You Through The Week I'll See You Through A Window, Eh?' Classic. It'll probably end up being called 'That Bird With The Mustache Out Of The Delgados' if the last record is anything to go by though..tcch! Does anyone know what songs are up for contention on the next one? 'Lord Anthony' and 'Paper Boats' presumably and I'd love it if they recorded the Northern Soulish one that they did at Bowlie (Landslide?) even if it is an Evie Sands cover, as I seem to remember someone telling me in the pub after. I also hope that the glamorous, leggy Belle and Sebastianettes backing singers will be made full use of, maybe in a Spiritualized/gospel choir way? I can just see Stuart belting out 'Amazing Grace' with a full swell of angelic harmonies, forty three channels of guitar feedback and weird swooshy noises behind him. Mmmmm, nice! Any information would be gratefully received (especially from Keith as he always seems to know this stuff). They seemed to be playing new Stevie Jackson and Stuart D stuff at Bowlie but I don't remember a new Stuart M one or is my memory playing tricks on me again? Oh and Steps *are* crap no matter how many levels of post-modern irony you throw at them. H is *not* attractive unless you have a thing for hamsters and BWP *is* good *and* scary. OK? sorted, now lets hear no more about it. StayLuckyRory(in a curiously didactic mood today)xxx PS Special bonus trainspotter points for anyone who picks up on the 'appy 'ardcore reference at the beginning of the second paragraph. BOOYAKKA! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Mon Nov 8 02:36:09 1999 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 18:36:09 PST Subject: Sinister: L'Austin Texas Message-ID: <19991108023609.74549.qmail@hotmail.com> ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Mon Nov 8 02:53:01 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 18:53:01 PST Subject: Sinister: guardian address,thankyou kindly Message-ID: <19991108025301.25841.qmail@hotmail.com> Dear List, Oh oh oh! Does anyone have the address for the Scottish guardian? I'm taking Stuart up on his offer.I seriously am.He understand's girls real well so he will know what I am going through.Sometimes I can't think of Stuart as a man,it's just too weird. I need some ideas on what to send to popstars (especially attractive male popstars),you know,little presents as a small thankyou for good music? I've only ever sent Belle and Sebastian letters (well,certain members of the band) but I can't even remember what they were about. I remember one interview I read Isobel was all like "Oh,the fans are sweet...a dress came in the mail once saying it was for anyone in the band" Well,that is a nice idea,but do you really think it was meant for Stuart? I mean,I could go on a whole different story about that,but anyways, Duh duh duh Isobel,you're the cupcake it was meant for.Well Sarah too I guess...but she's always off dancing in trees or something like a little pixie.Oh! They're all little pixies aren't they! I wish Stuart would just go mad one day,and decide to walk around in an elf-costume.I mean...we did use to call him Mad Dog,right? So he's got a bit of madness in him.There's still hope! Oh,some days,I rest my weary head upon the window during another mundane lesson,only to look outside and hallucinate...At first I hear the faint strains of a flute coming from the forests and then through my clouded gaze I see Stuart dancing a magical jig before me in his elf costume,spun from the finest gold with emerald green trimmings AND complete with little pointed shoes(with golden bells at the tips)...he grins at me..my breath quickens,my bosom heaves! ...and I shiver with antici...pation... luv, genevieve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Mon Nov 8 03:12:12 1999 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 19:12:12 PST Subject: Sinister: L'Austin Texas Message-ID: <19991108031214.72781.qmail@hotmail.com> Did my computer just send a blank copy of this? If so, I apologize on its behalf, it's quite eager but sometimes oversteps its bounds.. I once had dreams of walking into Austin and meeting Bob Mould, back when I was infatuated with him and had dreams about =fucking rock stars=. Well, I hitchhiked to Austin, Texas yesterday- that is, essentially walked into Austin- and found out that fucker'd done moved to New York. Can't see why. Austin is stunning. It makes no sense, being in Texas as it is. Can't recommend the hostelry too highly, either. I did get to see his friend Vic Chesnutt, though, play. I was too tanked up on benzos and slinging marriage proposals to a mother of three to notice. I love getting lost. It's impossible to do in a tiny place like England. That's one thing we've got, here, in America, a whole lot of the =middle of fucking nowhere=. It's easy to feel exceptional when everything else for miles around is 187 cm shorter than you are. I'm starting to notice that I'm structuring my paragraphs to resemble rolling plains. Flat. I've missed you, all. I was induced to write by our bust-ass List Ill Ma Ma asking the long-silent onlookers to have another go at a word. I realize why I've been quiet for so long, because I like talking to individuals, not a fucking crowd of 1,000-plus. This almost feels like a fucking speech. No? And I don't have it in me to be mean now. Except about the Cocteau Twins. I used to think they were so beautiful and majestic and just unearthly until I realized that the only two lines I could make out in the song "Pearly Dewdrops' Drops" was "pearly dewdrops drops" and then "all on my face." That's right, the ethereal wonder twins are singing about blowing a load in someone's eye. Take that, Joey McIntyre. Not entirely incidentally, I loved "Being John Malkovich", and so will you, provided John Cusack keeps you wet like he does me. Mwah, y'all. By the way, you might hear my spurs a-clackin' into the po'caff in December, if I can fucking find the place this time. Gonna buy me a shotgun, long as I am tall, -Eran P.S. hitchhiking is dangerous and irresponsible behavior and do not even fucking think about trying this at home. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ELZober at xxx.com Mon Nov 8 07:47:20 1999 From: ELZober at xxx.com (ELZober at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 02:47:20 EST Subject: Sinister: Gregory's Girl Message-ID: <0.8b0a7f59.2557da08@aol.com> hello out there.... instead of doing my homework last night i channel surfed, though mostly i watched 'Real World In Hawaii' Marathon. Until, I found Gregory's Girl playing on the Romance channel!!! For those of us in the NW of the US, that is on Digital cable and sattelite. I usally just watch BBC America, but I was surfing, like i said, and came across Gregory.... so all the American Sinsiter kids should check their listings incase they get the Romance channel - it's sure to be on again, and when it is I will be recording it... the first time i saw Gregory's Girl was in a wee flat in Glasgow, it's a well known fact that most boys in Scotland still fancy the pants off Claire Grogan, especially the boys i knew.... well, it was just as good the second time around. and boy was i surprised to see it playing in the US! here's a question, why would anyone send presents to pop stars? i'm not questioning the people and their motives, it's an awfully nice gesture and i'm sure that pop stars like to get presents (don't we all?). but i find it difficult enough to shop for my own family, how would i EVER know what to get someone i don't know at all? just wondering..... snoggs elle +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Mon Nov 8 10:21:36 1999 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 10:21:36 -0000 Subject: Sinister: There's always been a chortling dwarf element to our music Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB6970C3C0@park_ex> Hello babies I don't know if anyone has noticed (or, in fact, if it's just me), but if you sing the beginning of "Slow Graffitti" to yourself and then speed it up and speed it up a bit more it becomes "The Laughing Gnome" by Dame David Bowie. It's possible that I only noticed this after my very drunken friend (two bottles of wine by the end of the rugby on Saturday) managed to lever "Dame David and how fantastic his new album is" into every conversation on Saturday night. Don't get me wrong, i love Slow Graffitti and I hope i haven't spoiled it for anyone :) Finished "Nalda Said" yesterday (thank you for sending it Linda) and it's lovely and really really sad at the end. Someone said it was written in dialect, but it isn't to my mind. I think of dialect writing like in Irving Welsh, all "wide-o" and "dinneas" and "saltnsoss", but Nalda... is just written with an almost poetic use of language, so one does have to stop and read slowly (I'm terrible for skim reading things) to appreciate the use of words. Good characters and nice plot on top of this lovely prose style mean Top Marks to Mr David. I also notice from the inside back cover that Mr Techno Pagan Octop-arse wanky bollox has a book by the same publisher. Apparently its about taking drugs, travelling and BEING A FUCKIN' HIPPY. Sounds grate. Is it a sign of spending too much time in the chat room when you think about your "actions"? ie waving at someone and thinking *carsmile waves. Fortunately my new exciting job (I'm an "admin team leader", i'm in charge of people which is just a little scary (especially as they are all middle-aged women)) means I'm prob'ly going to be so snowed under with actual proper work (no laughing at the back, Hopkins) that I won't have time to sit and talk about the finer details of Battle of the Planets or the merits of assorted left wing political parties or being a cowboy. However, as I have a sparkly new pooter at home (it's grey-y beige actually), I'll just end up with mountainous phone bills from sitting and discussing the finer details of Battle of the Planets etc etc. I know i've told some of you individually, but for those of you i haven't had a chance to, there is a (currently rather small) Mr and Mrs CarsmileSteve Wedding Photo album at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Theater/5727/wedding/weddindex.html Now I have my own scanner, I shall endeavor to add more piccies sooner rather than later. Oh, I taped Rosita (hmm), Hefner (wahoo), Flaming Lips (big wahoo) and Marine Research (erm, actually haven't listened to it yet) off the radio the other week, if anyone wants a copy. enough for now xoxo CarsmileSteve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hamibe02 at xxx.edu Mon Nov 8 02:49:08 1999 From: hamibe02 at xxx.edu (B. Elwood Hamilton) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 21:49:08 -0500 Subject: Sinister: she's leaving home, bye bye Message-ID: <001301bf2993$d4b92ce0$44711198@wfu.edu> dearest lovelies, how are you? well i am hanging in there. school is a nasty little insect that keeps bzzzzzing around my ears and stuff, but i think i'll manage. i get the feeling that UK and US school schedules are vastly different. ohh guess what? i'm coming the UK next spring! so everyone had better watch out. well i should really get to the point here. well, i'm unsubbing from sinister. yep i'm a goin, high tailing it out of here! now firstly i'll say that i'll probably be back, and drop in sometime in the near future, just to see how things are doing. i'm not mad with the list, just a little frustrated that i can't keep up with it much anymore. i will certainly miss being away, for the time being. sometimes i feel like nobody wants to hear me blab on and on about all my crushes and heartaches/breaks. now i've had a little tiff with laura llew about this, and she's pleaded for me not to go. but, i find myself no longer able to run home every day and read on and on. oh dear sinister, don't you understand, it's me, not you? i'm in love with a text based email list, and i can't handle it. so i'll love the times we've had dear friend, and i can't wait for more, but i need some rest. yes, some rest. until the millenium is upon us and we can drink to the moon always blake xx the nerdy shy eyed pacifist ~~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ "I am not Jesus, though I have the same initials." - Jarvis Cocker +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From magarfur at xxx.es Mon Nov 8 12:10:53 1999 From: magarfur at xxx.es (Maria Pilar Garcia Furquet) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 12:10:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Music will destroy us in the end... (I hope) Message-ID: <199911081111.MAA07705@vega.upv.es> Hi you all there, sinisterines. It's been a while since I posted my last (and first) mail to the list. Finally my feelings have changed, and I've got through my sick loneliness once again. It's good to feel happy, sometimes, and now I'm having real good times. Last Saturday I went to a Hefner show here in Valencia (Spain, you know). It was real fun. Darren is absolutely a star, and they all made us dance and clap, and sing like we aren't used to. Lot of people had gone to see a Spanish band called Polar (your sinister souls sure would like them), but Hefner were the successful ones. You know, I find a lot of difference between Hefner and B&S, since they have such a different feelings about life, and, most of all, about love. Now I feel in most a "Hefner way of life", I mean, love seen as an extension of sex (Doesn't it sounds bad?), sure I'll change my point of view, but I've been recovering from my last relationship, and now I can't believe in that kind of ethereal love, mystical feelings Stuart and Co. sing about. So, as love has already destroyed me (in some ways), now I'm waiting music to do it again, and you can be sure it will. I really love being soul-ripped by love, and when there's no love in between, music can do its work. By the way, if anyone knows about anything Belle&Sebastian related, happening here in Spain, please don't have any doubt and make me get the news. Love you all. The sinister dancer. Mon. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From richard.connell at xxx.com Mon Nov 8 11:50:14 1999 From: richard.connell at xxx.com (richard.connell at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 12:50:14 +0100 (CET) Subject: Sinister: Transient Random Noise Bursts Message-ID: <4814501208111999/A08363/ADVAX1/11DB43320D00*@MHS> Howdy Pardners, Thought i'd try that heading nonsense that was popular a while back. Always one step behind the game, me. STUPID DREAM #2 --------------- I am slightly ashamed to admit i had my first B&S dream last night, but it wasn't your usual 'dreaming of tea and cupcakes with stuart/isobel' dream. I dreamt that i was watching a film review program that was talking about The Acid House. The reviewer said that the film was excellent but was only let down by the fey and weedy straming pile of elephant poo of a song by some band called Bill and His Bastion. Now i am not of the same opinion as my dream reviewer (probably Barry 'out-of-touch' Norman) as i think it is a brilliant song that fits the scene it is used in (scotland, depression, inadequacy, up-the-bum sex, and i think i spotted a cardie too). Almost as good a song/image juxtaposition (no, i don't know what it means either, i just read it in one of R McT's reviews of some black and white foreign film about gay farmers in Utrecht or something) as the use of Tiny Tears in The Sopranos (the fantastic Channel 4 series rather than the book but dont get me started on that). NOW I SEE THE VISION THROUGH YOUR EYES -------------------------------------- On a slighty less pointless note, i saw Badly Drawn Boy play in Portsmouth last week. If he is playing near you at any time then i urge you to see him. You will not get a better nights entertainment than an evening with him. Not only are his songs works of exquisite beauty but he is a funny bugger to boot. His between-song banter would put Eddie Izzard to shame for stream-of-consciousness rambling. But dont take my word for it, it may have been the vodka. He also had a madman come out and entertain us between the support band and himself, as well as giving his dinner to someone when he came out for an encore. What more could you want. MARILYN MANSON ATE MY HAMPSTER ------------------------------ My friend who is at Glasgow University went to that thing at the Star and Garter and spoke to Isobel, Stuart M, Richie Colbourn and Andy Rourke, who used to be famous. She said they were all thoroughly nice and she had a great time. Not that interesting but a nice story. A HYMN TO THE POSTAL SERVICE ---------------------------- A quick message to my friends in the #sinister posse (as i believe the youth of today call it). My computer is no nearer being fixed so if anyone would like to donate money, parts, organs, messages of love and support or just send a quick hello i would appreciate it. That is if any of you have got this far down the post, and remember who i am. That's about it for no but i'm sure that as usual when i hit 'send' i will think of 10 things far more interesting that i could have said instead of this drivel. Love and a .45, Rich/which/hotsexbitch oh yeah, I remember now........... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From antako at xxx.fi Mon Nov 8 13:03:19 1999 From: antako at xxx.fi (Antti Koskiranta) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 15:03:19 +0200 (EET) Subject: Sinister: an owl and bugs Message-ID: howdy kiddos! I decided to de-lurk... This is actually my second (!) post. so far. my ex dropped by one day. we listened to TGW und TWATTYBUS. And I danced my toy owl. recommended songs for boogie owls: Weathershow and TWATTYBUS the song. what fun. try it, people. (most of You probably have) saw a film called Microcosmos yesterday. I know, its not very new, but I live in Finland, and not in the biggest town, so it takes a while before these marginal films arrive to a cinema near me. if ever. and this film was shown by the uni's film club. anyway, I'm trying to get to the point. the film had a lot of bugs in it. and they were BIG on the screen. I'm not really a big fan of insects, but these bugs weren't so frightening as I had imagined. almost human (in the way other, larger animals, mammals especially, seem.) B&S should name their next album "My Year As A Bug". or maybe not. other titles could be (just a thought): "Revolver" (because of the sitar..., or maybe "Generalissimus Murdoch's Lonely Hearts' Club Band") "Attack of the 50 ft Cellist" (ahem...) my recommended album of the day: Good Morning Spider by Sparklehorse. (no connection with my new found bug enthusiasm, btw) Last week I bought the new Stereolab cd and a Burt Bacharach compilation. money well spent indeed. take care folks Antti aka Andy-boy aka Anti-boy (ha!) and 'ee's gone "Il n'y a pas de honte à préférer le bonheur." Albert Camus +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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Message-ID: <01BF29EA.219D3460.p.cullen@music-control.com> comrades! nice weekend, i trust? ~ i sure did ~ i think i must be the first person in the whole wide world and africa to receive a belleandsebastian-themed injury. oh yes. on sunday, i received a *corduroy burn*. a so-called *corduroy wearer* decided to jump on me from a considerable height, for like, "fun", or something. upon seeing so-called *corduroy wearer* descending on me from afore-mentioned considerable height, i "elevated" (you could say) my right leg to apprehend said *corduroy wearer*, and as a result, sustained some rather nasty *cord burns*. i felt it my duty to extend a warning to the kingdom of sinister as i have a suspiscion that a number of you may not be practising Safe Corduroy Wearing. look at me, kids. is this the way you want to end up? reduced to 10 days (at *least*) of baggy trouser wearing to hide your injuries? no. i thought not. MEANWHILE........ our office photocopier maintenance chappie thinks im a bit of a Pervy Lady. the photocopier is beside my desk, you see, and my desk (for reasons which i have never been able to fathom - i was "re-located" there just weeks after the commencement of my employment......) is way, way down the back of the office in a secluded corner. when the photcopier guy came in on friday afternoon, i was playing Barry White very loudly. he looked a little embarrassed at Barry's saucy ramblings but i didn't think anything of it. unfortunatley for him though, he had to come back again today. today, i was playing this great cd called "Divas Exotica" which is basically just all these old birds singing saucy tunes of yore. so there he was, fiddling with his cartridge, while i was blasting out such gems as Josepine Bakers "dont touch my tomatoes"*, April Long heavy breathing her way through "teach me tiGRRRRRR" and brigitte bardot singing about....... well, i dont know what it was about cos it was in french, but i'd bet my last slice of dairylea it was something rude, so i would. i couldnt turn it off either, cos that would have been like *acknowledging* both our embarrassment. Gawd. snow patrol played in dublin on friday. i went to the gig alright, but didnt actually stay for the snow patrol part. i wasn't feeling R!O!C!K! enough, i suppose. smell ya later, paula cullen booze explosion booooze!!!! yeeeaaahh!!! "getting beer poured over your head isn't necessarily a bad thing. it's cold, it's good for your hair, and it makes you smell like a champ." * i get the impression , she wasn't *really* singing about tomatoes. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Archel1978 at xxx.com Mon Nov 8 13:27:26 1999 From: Archel1978 at xxx.com (Archel1978 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 08:27:26 EST Subject: Sinister: you wouldn't believe in my new belle Message-ID: <0.1db4e10a.255829be@aol.com> obviously the thought of the new album is haunting my subconscious - i just wrote 'sinisitar' in the address field. SINISTER i found an interesting little thing the other day in an article about left and right sides of the brain. i know the discussion about the word 'sinister' and left-handedness etc has been had before, but: "Dexterity (from the Latin dexter, right) connotes skill, adroitness, efficiency, cleverness, whilst the left-hand is sinister (Latin for left) - cl umsy, stupid, shadowy, mysterious and evil." pick an adjective, kids... SIMON AND GARFUNKEL i have recently re-discovered simon & garfunkel (not that i ever really lost them) and it reminded me of a funny and sad little story from my schooldays. there was a boy in my class, i suppose i called him a friend, who once everyone discovered fashion and cliques and identity markers became a leather-jacket, bandana 'n' big-boot wearing metalhead. on a school trip once someone asked him about a badge he was wearing, a kind of silver death's head coiled snake thing, i think. it was a band logo, and a conversation about the band ensued. after a short time this boy seemed to run out of things to say. eventually he admitted that he actually didn't much like such music and his favourite band were simon and garfunkel, but you couldn't go around wearing simon and garfunkel badges while dressed in biker gear, could you? moral: beware of tying yourself down to particular looks, lest you become trapped by them. god, school was a harsh place. the only gesture i ever dared to make towards individualism was wearing blue dms instead of black ones. but i hope that boy is letting his simon&garfunkel side come out now. and remember, b&s badgies go with everything :) BLURRY ITCH PROJECT i don't care what you say, i'm bloody glad england is not big enough to get lost in. since saturday i am also having a problem listening to hefner's 'sad witch', because it's got tangled up in my mind with a certain film (which is admittedly not scary for lots of the time, but the other times make up for it). NATWEST now i'm single i seem to be lavishing my affection on inappropriate things (not just fireworks). i am in love with the natwest advert. i squeal with excitement when it comes on. it makes me feel warm and fuzzy. i used to love 'the littlest hobo', but especially the theme tune, so how delighted was i when it surfaced on that advert? i sing along loudly every time, and never get bored of it. it's brilliant! i wish b&s would do a cover. in fact they could do a whole album of cover versions - Belle and Sebastian Sing TV Themes - to be chosen by their fans. let's campaign now! (obviously it'll take them another 15 years to record it, on their current form, but never mind.) DEAR DIARY BIT next weekend i may have to see my ex for the first time since it all went isobel-shaped. partly i am very excited because the occasion is the nus student media awards, and the magazine i once edited has been shortlisted. unfortunately my ex succeeded me as editor, and an absolute bitch who has wanted to get her claws into him for ages succeeded him. she has mysterious power over men. perhaps they will both be there, in a luvvie media style couple, and i will be forced to do her harm. do i still go? or do i miss the chance to dress up and drink champagne (actually i don't know if that's happening...) for the sake of avoiding awkwardness and/or violence? maybe i'll just stay in and wait until the natwest advert comes on... enough already, archel xxx ******* Rachel Playforth archel at iname.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ASpawnyGit at xxx.com Mon Nov 8 14:02:25 1999 From: ASpawnyGit at xxx.com (ASpawnyGit at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 09:02:25 EST Subject: Sinister: Information request Re: Glasgow Message-ID: <0.8d0d352d.255831f1@aol.com> Hello: I have decided to make a trip to Glasgow for New Years to visit with my friend. Unfortunately it has been a good while since we have communicated and feel that I should prepare in case I have to make the trip as a loner. Either way I will be there from approx. Dec. 28 until Jan 5th (give or take a day or two). My request is for info. regarding music shows and general entertainment from a local's perspective. Also a reference to a good hostel would be nice as well. I have only found one on the Internet and surely there has got to be more than one hostel in Glasgow. Sorry if this is abuse of the list, but I would be more inclined to trust a sinistereen's opinion of what entails a good time over the "Tourist Guide to Scotland." My apologies to the list, and my gratitude is extended to anyone that takes the time to help me out. PS thanks list for giving me the ambition to buy a Hefner album. In return I would like to suggest Appendix Out, the Super Furry Animals, and any Will Oldham album you can get your hands on. I will see the Lucksmiths on the 17th so if anyone would like my review of how they are live, send me an email. I hear they are "charming" at the least. Take care, Bradley +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Mon Nov 8 14:12:13 1999 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson) Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 14:12:13 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Maybe tomorrow I'll want to settle down Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19991108141213.0075291c@ampsys.co.uk> Hello friends, friends to be and even (shudder the thought) people who actually watch Friends, This week I have been mostly pretending to be a music journalist. This is quite fun and mainly involves being a bit of a tosser, which I have been excelling in for years, seeing many gigs and being opinionated about everything. In fact, it is de rigueur in these circles to give everything either a big thumbs up or thumbs down. Which seems quite strange when applied to everyday things, for instance by coliander is very IN at the moment as straining water is mirroring late 1990's postmodernism, but my sieve is OUT as it's completely ripping off work my tea strainer's been doing for years. In fact I am starting a new comic called Food Maker, or maybe Kitchen Utensil Express. Maybe... Watch out for the forthcoming coliander backlash though, or maybe Hungarian goulash, at least the recipe for. Anyhow I digress... I too agree with the eloquent Archel that The Littlest Hobo is a top tune. It also has very profound lyrics, well I understand them anyway if that counts. "Until tomorrow the whole world is my home." Aahhhh... Anyway back to attending Ryan Giggs. Stereolab were most good last Monday in fact they proverbially kicked arse which I found quite surprising, I was over the moon with their performance. Super Furry Animals were also most fantastic and the man of the match was definitely their closing version of the "The Man Don't Give A Fuck" with full costume accompaniment. I also attended the Arab Strap / Tindersticks affair which was very much a game of two halves, though never were particularly intriguing. The gaffer reckoned they would both be a lot better live than in my bedroom. But they weren't. Maybe they should play live from my bedroom. Maybe not though as I don't think I'd want that bearded chap talking about shagging in my bedroom really. Call me old fashioned. Oh, and I also saw a band called the Boxing Gloves, I think, whose spangly pop certainly packed a proverbial punch or two. Anyway ,there's a voice that keeps on calling me. Down the road... Just turn around, and I'm gone again. Te ra, Martin ear confection recordings (http://www.send.demon.co.uk) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com Mon Nov 8 16:03:07 1999 From: sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com (GEORGE DICKIE) Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 08:03:07 PST Subject: Sinister: Q: WHAT DO WE GET FOR OUR TROUBLE AND PAIN Message-ID: <19991108160307.68695.qmail@hotmail.com> A: JUST A RENTED ROOM IN WHALLEY RANGE MMMMMM HELLO ALL IT HAS BEEN TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LONG ETC THE SMITHS LYRIC WITH WHICH I STARTED SORT OF STARTS ME OFF AS I WILL BE GOING TO THE MOZ GIGS IN NOTTS AND LEEDS TOMORROW AND WEDNESDAY RESPECTIVELY MMM I KNOW A LOT HAS BEEN WRITTEN ABOUT THE LINK BETWEEN B&S AND THE SMITHS FOR ME B&S ARE THE CHILL OUT TENT FOR THE SMITHS RAVE THE RAVE IS NOT OVER MOZ WILL BE PLAYING 3 SMITHS SONGS IN HIS SET MEAT IS MURDER IS IT REALLY SO STRANGE AND HE ENDS HIS GIGS WITH LAST NIGHT I DREAMT SOMEBODY LOVED ME BUT THE MOZ GIGS ALSO INCLUDE MANY OF MY FAV MOZ SONGS MMMMMM WHATEVER HOPE 2 C SOME OF U THERE MMMMMMMMMMMM WITH THE RECENT TV APPEARANCE OF GREGORY'S GIRL AND ACCLAIM FROM THE PEOPLE OF THE LIST I HAVE POSTED A TOP 10 TEEN FILM THANG IT WILL BE ON THE TOP 10 LIST THANG ON THE B&S SITE SOON I ASSUME MMMMMM ANYWAY I ONLY PLACE GREGORY'S GIRL 8TH U WILL HAVE TO C WHAT IS ABOVE AND BELOW IT MM BET U CAN'T WAIT ETC IF YOU WANT TO CRITICISE/PRAISE/HELLRAISE/CIRCUMCISE ME ON MY CHOICES IT WOULD PROB BE (GEORGE) BEST TO DO IT PRIVATEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE OK MMMMMM *IF THE WORLD ENDS - MIDNIGHT DECEMBER 31ST 1999 THERE WILL STILL BE AN FHM JANUARY 2000 ISSUE* I'M SURE THERE IS A MESSAGE FOR US HERE BUT I'M TOO AFRAID OF Y2K TO FIND OUT WHAT LOVE AND PEOPLE WHO WORK IN LIBRARIES PUFF THE MAGIC DRAGON SAD FLUFFY GHD "A STATISTIC" - A. CRITIC ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mhintz at xxx.edu Mon Nov 8 16:04:11 1999 From: mhintz at xxx.edu (Matthew Hintz) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 11:04:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: squirrels on the up! Message-ID: Hello list, We, the squirrels, have accessed this 'internet' once again to send you a message about that beloved Isobel we abducted. You may have noticed our disappearance from the trees above your head. We are NOT hibernating--just laying down plans for the world take over after your 'computers' fail at Y2K. All those nuts we planted are just rations for the WAR we will wage. We are still disappointed by the lack of response to Isobel's ransom; so was she. Then she saw the WAY. Our own little Patty Hearst-by-way-of-Charles Lindberg's-baby is now an advocate to the squirrel community. Her squirrel BROTHERS won't forget her. She has been writing songs again; these satisfy the demands of the squirrel initiative of truly depicting forest life. In her songs now, as per our approval, she screams and acts primordial, throws twigs and leaves, and is eventually deposed of in some harsh fashion--eaten by domestic cat, road injury, etc. The performance will obviously only happen once. It's not all bushy tails and button eyes. We are watching you secretly. SQUIRRELS. --- Stolen Kisses http://stolenkisses.tripod.com 'We are reasonably young' +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From u01cjtc at xxx.uk Mon Nov 8 16:22:52 1999 From: u01cjtc at xxx.uk (Colin Campbell) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:22:52 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: greg Message-ID: The thing about gregory's 2 girls is that it came out mid october and then vanished very quickly, it's a shame that, coz it's dead good. Another strange thing is that this weekend i wathched bill forsyth's first film, that sinking feeling, in which most of the characters are played by actors who were also in gregory's girl, only it was made before but all the people look older than in gregory's girl. Is there some kind of strange time warp that exists half way between glasgow and cumbernauld on the M74 , which would mean that the cornflakes travelling to glasgow would arrive and allready be out of date? colin. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Mon Nov 8 17:15:51 1999 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MC1996) Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 17:15:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Warning: out of character rant. Oh, and the usual rubbish, but with a surprising dearth of bad jokes. Message-ID: <38270547.29744320@cs.strath.ac.uk> And a big hello to all you truckers. Erm, first of all, I really hate doing this and it's probably not my place to do so but I get the feeling some people need to be reminded to go back and read everything Honey said a couple of weeks ago in his massiiive mail to Sinister, as it seems that there are still a few pointless one or two line mails clogging up the list. I know no-one does it intentionally but it's really not fair on Paul, he has tried to be nice about it and he does work hard enough as it is. Unlike me, who does bugger all. Really sorry about that, probably a bit hypocritical given the quality of my mails. Especially this one as you'll see. Anyway, on to jollier things... Jollier things being the quite hilarious fireworks display on Glasgow Green. A big giant luminous head was the undoubted star of the show, it's mouth opening and closing in time with the bizarre rap which was blaring from the loud speakers: "Time to dance to this rhythm of mine, time to get down with Father Time". Lovely. Scaring waitresses in Pizza restaurants by being hideously drunk is also a fun pastime, if anyone wants to try it. Saturday was The Chemistry Experiment. Umm, the less said about that the better, probably. The drummer was so drunk they almost didn't let him in the building. They shouldn't have. Sorry guys. I was, however, most impressed with My Legendary Girlfriend, even if others were making unfavourable comparisons to Depeche Mode. Sunday was Socialism 2000, where we were encouraged by the Scottish Socialist Party to fight the good fight against EVIL CAPITALISM. However it all becomes a bit of a joke when they end letters with "yours in solidarity", and just gets me thinking of Life of Brian. Not that I gave a tosh about any of that, I just wanted to see Struan make a fool of himself on stage, and he duly obliged, sort of. I thought he was going to have to sit down and take a Prozac at one point, but he soldiered on and things improved when he could sit down and take questions, then wave the microphone on to Francis MacDonald (Shoeshine Records) and Douglas MacIntyre (Creeping Bent), who were slightly more eloquent and confident in their roles. Lots of people stood up saying things like "Morag McHaggis, Pollockshields Scottish Socialist Party" then ranted on for hours about lack of funding for schools, community centres etc, after which Stuart would wave the mic away, Francis would say something apologetic and Douglas would make a witty comment. All of which added up to very little, but at least they tried. And at least I was there because I was interested in what they had to say, not because I fancy the pants off Stuart Murdoch. Yes, I mean you. And you. Hmm, I seem to be in a bit of a funny mood. It's probably the medication I took this morning. Actually, I'm quite happy because I finally got my copy of Neil Young's On The Beach, which I don't think was available on cd before this year. I say finally because the first time I bought it I got home only to find that the silly girl in the record store had forgotten to put the cd in the case. Unfortunately getting the cd meant gong back into said record store and conversing with PASTEL. However, I managed to suffer the nasal whine and get out with my wares. And the album's brilliant, and has extra live tracks which make it extra brilliant. So Al's well that ends well. This post seems to be going on a bit, and so far I've insulted 2 pop stars, moaned a bit and said nothing of any interest to anyone. Oh, Jenowl said: > And why does a century of elvis sound so much like a century of fakers except > with talking? > Erm, cos it is a Century of Fakers with talking? Or have I just gone mad? Oh dear, I was going to write lots of personal mails but now it's too late and I'm tired and hungry and vaguely ill, so I'll do them tomorrow, or the next day. Hopefully. I apologize for this mail being extra rubbish, but I'm afraid you're stuck with it. Unless you've deleted it already, of course. Which you probably have. Alasdair xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starpiekat at xxx.uk Mon Nov 8 19:28:19 1999 From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 19:28:19 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Fizz Fizz! Message-ID: <19991108192819.22682.rocketmail@web1703.mail.yahoo.com> Dear all, I don't know about any of these evil Natwest child molesting adverts that Archel talks about, but I can tell you what IS spanking great. It is the Skips advert. Where a band who are NOT AT ALL based on the Steptacular Steptastic Steps are playing on a clay tv set, in a clay room, with clay boys watching them. ClayBoy! Nude, Live, Amateur Clay! Nope! My visit home has sadly failed to endow me with any more yumour. Anyways. The clay band are getting jiggy, and singing a song. The first clay boy says "Here Alfie, this bands really PANTS", then they eat some skips, and Barry White starts singing "fizz fizz melt melt fizz fizz melt melt", and it turns into footie on the TV, and the band DIE. Its pretty darned ace! All you people who like Hefner...up against the wall please. No, its not The Revolution yet, you're not going to be shot or anything... but what the hell do you see in Hefner apart from mediocre tediousness and complete and utter boredeom? Its people in London writing songs about going on tube trains every day - with no magic, no juicy breath-stealing SAUCE, no SAX, and as Iggy (is that after Ignatius?) Pop said - NO FUN! Did he *do* No Fun? It must be No Fun being Iggy Pop. It might have been fun being a Stoodge though. Imagine looking in the mirror each day and being Iggy Pop. You're probably such a rebel that you'd smash the mirror and then gouge the spikes of glass into your flesh, the horrible disgusting signifier of filthy lowdown humanity. Garrr! Fuckin 'ell, is Gregorys Girl a rare film in America? Not seen it myself. I expect it'll happen one of these days. But most kids in the UK see that film at school - when its a rainy break and you can't go outside, so you have to stay in the classroom, and if you're in the English room where theres a telly, you get to watch an old musty video they've kept in the back storeroom since 1963. Pookie, I would send Stuart Murdoch some tomato ketchup. And some bread. And a pack of sausages, and some oil. So he could fry himself up some sausages and make a sausage buttie! Of course, he could gril them and then no need for the oil. But he might use it to rub over his naked body, so it glistens. Ooo. You can buy popstars anything, its not as if they're going to write and complain saying "ooh, I actually would've preferred the latest model in baby blue as opposed to minty mudslide.."... If Stuart Murdoch understands girls so well, why does he write about girl problems so much? How come all his birds start partaking of that special sauce we know only as "gayism"? I think Stuart is a boy, with a triangular face. I don't know! I don't know Stuart! He's a veritable stranger. I fell in loove with a beautiful stranger....and then started wiggling my bum cheeks in his face, in a car. Sorry, thats a Madonna video and not my life. By the way, the book "Does my bum look big in this", by Arabella Weir is PANTS. Don't bother reading it. Fizz fizz melt melt, Love Starry Sarah xx ===== ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From robhalcrow at xxx.net Mon Nov 8 20:07:36 1999 From: robhalcrow at xxx.net (robhalcrow at xxx.net) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 20:07:36 GMT Subject: Sinister: Twee? Not me. Fey? No way. Message-ID: <199911082007.UAA20965@boober.lineone.net> Good evening one and all, I was feeling poetically inspired for a minute. From the fluttering of feathers I thought The Poetry Parrot had come my way. But no. Approaching the strange being I plucked up the courage to stammer "What manner of strange beast are you?" A strangled mewling voice replied "Err....The Couplet Cockerel". On closer inspection it was next door's cat with rubber gloves on its head and a feather duster up its Khyber Pass. Jarkko gave us those bits of interview with Hefner's Darren. I don't agree with his point that those who really love music will drop names of obscure bands into conversation. Some people love The Beatles or Elvis or Frank Sinatra with a fervour bordering on the ecstatically religious. And they're hardly obscure. I think he's fallen into a bit of hipper than thou snobbery there. And I don't love or hate Hefner either. Some of their stuff I think is lovely (like "The Hymn for the Things We Didn't Do" or the last one on "Breaking God's Heart"), but some of it is too mannered and tortured for me. Hope this isn't sounding grumpy but I get really annoyed with all the Indie Cred stuff. It seems so pointless. What's your current favourite B&S moment? Mine is the bit in "Beautiful" where the trumpet solo stops and the strings slide down. Brilliant. Brian Wilsonlike in its genius. Don't forget to check Martin's Ear Confection site, not least because I'll be on it soon. Sounds and pictures. 2 Picturebox songs. How can you resist? Yours Rob "Brother Michael, Auntie Gin, Open the door and let 'em in" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ferris_Thomas at xxx.com Mon Nov 8 20:26:45 1999 From: Ferris_Thomas at xxx.com (Thomas, Ferris) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 15:26:45 -0500 Subject: Sinister: London-area listers (or those willing to travel)... Message-ID: <199911082026.NAA03283@turtle.esosoft.net> Hi, all. This is (I think) my first post to the list though I've been lurking for quite a while now. Of course in a standard rude American way I'm going to start off by asking a wretchedly huge favour that (hopefully) won't tick anyone off too much. Anyone who's going to be in or around Notting Hill the first Saturday (the fourth) of December, who is both outfitted for and willing to do a bit of bootlegging**, and wanting to do a fella a nice favour.... TREMBLING BLUE STARS (former members of the Northern Picture Library and the Field Mice for the uninitiated) are playing live. Anyone who, say, wants to go see a nice set and maybe record this for me will not only earn my eternal gratitude but perhaps heaps of money/first borns/, should it be required. Anyone familiar with them knows that the band never (not ever) plays live. I would come over for the weekend and do it (yep, I'm that stupid) but the wife and I are already probably going to visit her folks in Shropshire either on Thanksgiving or Christmas--both of which, as you know, fall nowhere near the 4th of December. The show is on Saturday, 4th December, at the Notting Hill Arts Club (19 Notting Hill Gate) and the set I'm interested in hearing falls at some point between 4pm and 7pm, though I have no way of knowing when. Apparently there's quite a few people playing and (odds are) the band (Bob's the lead singer's name) may only do a solo show with an acoustic. There's also a chance for Harvey Williams to play as well--bonus gifts if you land both sets. I've got quite a lot of stuff to trade (some that I'm recording on my own now) should any of you be swayed by such things though I haven't much Belle and Sebastian stuff beyond some Tigermilk outtakes and radio shows. Something may catch the eye, however, so just ask. I got tipped to this wicked, wicked conundrum by the Shinkansen Records website located at: http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~shink/news.htm Thanks! -ferris. ** 1.) If there's a list policy against talking of such things I'm not aware of it. 2.) If there's anyone who's desperately opposed to the recording of bands in concert, feel free to flame away to me personally, but don't bog down the list with it. 3.) I don't sell the shows I record or trade for and only arrange trades for things in kind. I haven't yet and never will make money off these things--if anything it's become a bit of a black hole for my resources. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mickcooke at xxx.com Mon Nov 8 20:39:58 1999 From: mickcooke at xxx.com (mickcooke at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 15:39:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Sorry, it's not my fault... Message-ID: <9911081539586G.08971@webb2.iname.net> Yes, you may well have noticed how I sent three copies of a mail that weren't quite the same yesterday. What can I say, Lycosmail is shit, and so am I. And yes, the band website was password protected today, so you couldn't even look at what I was posting about. It's sorted now though. Bit of a technology crisis, shall we say. Sorry about that... Mick +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From the_gibber at xxx.com Mon Nov 8 20:49:49 1999 From: the_gibber at xxx.com (Ian McKinney) Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 20:49:49 GMT Subject: Sinister: miscellaneous musings Message-ID: <19991108204949.28467.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi peeps, Straight to business: HEFNER I like 'em. I think they're charming and witty and poetic in an earthy sort of way. However I cannot listen to them for more than half an hour at a stretch, as then they do start to get on my tits. Good in small doses. MY FAVOURITE B&S MOMENT Well, I have two. One is the bit in 'Dylan in the Movies' where the line goes '...when the music stops', and the music stops, and then it starts again, and this all happens in a very charming and nice way. The other is the first two lines of 'The Boy Done Wrong Again', perhaps the most touching fragment of music I have ever heard. OTHER MUSINGS I saw a chap with a 3..6..9 badge on his bag on the train last night. He was reading through a pile of leaflets on female sexual health. What can this mean? I went to see suede last thursday in dublin with my suede-obsessed girlfriend, and contrary to my expectations it was actually a cracking show. Brett's not as much of a twat as I thought he was, and thankfully that odious fop Codling was absent. However, an hour of my girlfriend glaring lustfully at Richard Oakes was a bit of a trial. Finally, the Make-Up are playing in the Menagerie in Belfast on the night of my 23rd birthday, so I'm all happy!! Back to the shadows..... Yours, as ever, Ian ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From macarthur at xxx.com Mon Nov 8 22:36:51 1999 From: macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 22:36:51 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I don't want to be dancing with the wallflower, I want you, cos you've got painted toenails References: <0.bb9ecf0e.2555c8f9@aol.com> Message-ID: <010b01bf2a39$e37a2a80$1d638cd4@default> Honeyz, she said: > well, after last night there can be no further doubt: fireworks are better > than sex. I went to a firework display at the weekend on Primrose Hill. When I got home my mum asked me what it was like, so I said: "it's great, everyone just comes along and stands on the hill". "And does everyone bring their own fireworks?" she asked, "No, mum" I replied. "Do you want a cup of tea?". Sarah, you can't say all Hefner songs are about tube trains. It would be like saying all Belle and sebastian songs are about Buses. You could at least say he just whines about girls too much, which is one of my favorite insults. I think Hefner are gorgeous and gritty, although sometimes I wish Darren wouldn't breathe so heavily and fake orgams quite so obviously, because it means I can't play tapes of them in the car with my mother without blushing and/or cringing. Hefner are magic, and anyone which denies that is lying. I let my mascara run from weeping the first time I heard 'Grandmother Dies', which quite a sacrifice for a badly cut 7". I have a small campaign running, aimed at those males which feel it their right to let themselves go during the winter, entitled "Get thee to a Barbershop". and don't think I havent noticed that chin flab, ethier. That campagin runs along the better known "Kill all austrian dogs" and another new edition, "buy Erica a new pair of Glasses" - it would appear I misplaced by glasses during a boozy session at the poetry cafe last friday. Do *you* have them stuffed down your pants, right now? Archel told us: >and an absolute bitch who has >wanted to get her claws into him for ages succeeded him. she has mysterious >power over men I've decided I hate girls like that almost as much as I hate the boys that fall for them. Archel, I think you should get your best frock on and be ready to seethe. Stomach in, chest out, and if all else fails, get horribly drunk and start a cat fight with said bitch* Erica x *(hint: go for the hair first, then pull up her skirt). +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seyfert7 at xxx.com Mon Nov 8 22:52:23 1999 From: seyfert7 at xxx.com (deb s) Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 22:52:23 GMT Subject: Sinister: she's happy with a fag on her lip, and faggot friend... Message-ID: <19991108225224.88033.qmail@hotmail.com> i was leaning out my window last night having a cigarette (the perils of living at home, being twenty and still pretending you don't smoke) staring at the stars, and listening to stuart hummm out Rhoda. it was quite calming as school hasn't allowed for moments like that lately. a cricket even starting chirping and it felt like a blasted summer night. i got a cd back this weekend that i hadn't listened to in ages. music's great cause it comes with memories. maybe that's why new music is fun, it's waiting for it's appropriate life experience to be attached. kinda like different smells...ahhhh....that's the one that was playing in the cab that night we thought it would be funny to take off our.....erm....well, something like that anyhow... i'm terribly stuffed up today. it's making eating quite difficult, cause i have to stop to breath. looks a bit daft actually, like i'm inhaling too quickly (which i have been known to do) and need to slow down or something. ohhh, someone mentioned meeting a Sebastian a little while ago. my first crush in high school was on my science teacher, Mr. Sebastian. he was an adorable short little guy. he used to come to class and complain about how unsuccessful his dates were. he tended to frequent the Science Center with them, and run around like a little kid showing them all the cool stuff. they (the 'dates') didn't seem to appreciate it as much as me. he also gave out pocket periodic tables on halloween. it was all extremely endearing to a ninth grader. i better bundle up and get to class. i'm all sudoriferous (new word of the week, sounds better than what it actually means), probably means i'm getting the flu. a quick hello to all t.o.ers who made it to the 'meet' on saturday. see you all next week. and to jason, i'm not the one who put in all the time to plan SfC, that's Laura, i don't want to steal any of the rewards for her hard work. byefornow, luv deb xx ps...is it really silly to actually be considering flying over to england just to go to ATP? that would go down in my books as the most expensive weekend venture ever...! always dreaming... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lofemo at xxx.com Tue Nov 9 01:33:08 1999 From: lofemo at xxx.com (kevin-m) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:33:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: looper/casio/b&s/toronto Message-ID: <19991109013308.11945.rocketmail@web1003.mail.yahoo.com> hey [b&s] all apologies to teri/emily/debby/diana and anyone i was unable to meet on sat.. i'm looking forward to SfC. i also spoke to Laura(who's organizing SfC and goes to my school) and she mentionned that she hasn't received any mean threats about the "fake B&S" appearance. although things might get ugly at the club. [looper] i've got a copy of looper from the last toronto show(along w/ polaroids) if anyone has nice music to trade. (email me: lofemo at hotmail dot com, instead of this yahoo account please) (looper pics: www.members.tripod.com/lofemo/looper.htm) [casio] mike j wrote: "i know awhile back i had mentioned i was recording songs with toy instruments and such...well, my casio went on the fritz but it's working again, so i'm going back to my hobby" mike. this is fantastic. i've been recording lofi music w/ a casio, guitar and old children's story records (45s, in french) onto dictaphones or reel2reel machines. usually people scoff and laugh and ask why i'm not using cutting edge digital for ultra crispy sound. we should start a lo-fi revolution. (lofi music: www.members.tripod.com/lofemo/sounds.htm) hugs and kisses kevin [lofemo at hotmail dot com] p.s.: hey martin(from ecr), did you get my email ? ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Tue Nov 9 04:04:49 1999 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 20:04:49 PST Subject: Sinister: think yer 'ard mate? Message-ID: <19991109040450.4504.qmail@hotmail.com> Okay, can I be the first in line to mention that GEORGE DICKIE FUCKING ROCKS? CAPS AND ALL. Ha. Actually second in line. You've got fan(s) already, e-kid. As someone whose voice is a yell at its softest, I have an appreciation for someone so damn EMPHATIC. Especially about MOZ. Especially having spent a few months under the thumb of a strict Morrissey-suppressing relationship. But I shan't start that. Fuck everyone who ever sobbed about their Sad Sack fucking love life on the list. That's what the records are for. You know, the Belle and Sebastian ones. It's embarrassing reading that shit. Half because you know you've been in the exact same pathetic fucking boat, half because it's embarrassing watching someone so shamelessly begging for sympathy. Well, you've got my sympathy, but I'll never tell you so. This world sucks. Ghost town of lost list crushes. Where's the wit, where's the fire. Where are all those assholes that made me feel five fucking inches tall when I joined, those endlessly stylish and cruel cunts who more than anything else made me want to be =better at it=. And don't you give me any shit about being list-referential here, Paul, I'm trying to get these fuckers to start writing again, too. Whew! Where am I. Oh yes. Texas. Lest y'all think that I paint my whole canvas in shades of dung and chitin, I'd like to give a big fucking SHOUTOUT to all the warm-hearted Texsterines who sent me greetings and salutations and made me feel so damn =welcome= in their huge, Clyde Scrubblefield-ass state. Two years in DC and I didn't get half as many "Howdy"'s as I got from just one week in TEXAS. Hooray for TEXAS. I even got advice on which songwriter I really want to fuck next time I'm in Austin. JAMS, no? Love's a pile of shit. Long live love. Kiss kiss- -Eran ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From redden at xxx.com Tue Nov 9 04:46:09 1999 From: redden at xxx.com (danielle redden) Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 23:46:09 -0500 Subject: Sinister: falling falling with my heart still broken Message-ID: good evening kids. someone wrote: >ps...is it really silly to actually be >considering flying over to england >just to go to ATP? i flew over to england for the bowlie. and for the cancelled ATP. silly? yes, very much so. worth it? oh indeed indeed indeed. someone else wrote: >I love getting lost. It's impossible to do in >a tiny place like England. >That's one thing we've got, here, in America, >a whole lot of the =middle of >fucking nowhere=. >It's easy to feel exceptional when everything >else for miles around is 187 >cm shorter than you are. in small steps something is trying to tell me if i should stay in the land of the free or sail to the old world where a twee boy loves me. the other day i was in a used book store and randomly pulled a kay boyle book of essays off the shelf, opened the book and started to read. read her story of how she was living in europe during the mc carthy era and all her european friends advised her "don't go back to america now, it isnt your country anymore." because fascism was rearing its evil head in america, her european friends did not want her to go home, for fear of her life, her freedom. in the end of the essay, boyle says "(i decided) no, this was the time to return....this one of the times of history when one must go back and speak out with those of the other america clearly and loudly enough so that even europe will hear." so of course my situation is different. but i am torn. he wants me to come to england where "things arent as bad" and he can love me close instead of stay here in the states and work and speak out and act and get lost and be far away from him. a dilema indeed. and the suggestions keep coming. soft and quiet. "maybe things will look better there because they couldnt be much worse........" (did you all notice how i nicely slipped in my b&s content? there is more where that came from...) i walked into my apartment yesterday to find my roommate in tears, sitting on her bed. she was listening to the first track on IYFS. it was her first time ever listening to b&s. it was by accident. my cd just happened to be in her cd player....but my friends, she IS a track and field star. has been for years. will be forever. and another falls in love again. danielle Whaat!!! Have you tried The Doghouse??! Get your FREE WEB-BASED EMAIL account at: http://doghousemail.lycos.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Tue Nov 9 04:52:11 1999 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 23:52:11 EST Subject: Sinister: think yer 'ard mate? Message-ID: <0.4cc019af.2559027b@aol.com> Jesus, Mary and Joseph! Who taught you to cuss like that Eran? I like a good profanity every now and again, but your missives read like sensory overloads of explitives and curses. I've never heard "fuck" or "fucking" worked into so many sentences and still have them read half coherently in my life, which is a compliment I suppose. I'm not saying you don't have the right to say whatever you feel, but I just find it pretty damn funny that amongst the largest collection of soft boys and twee kittens on earth we have the world's most prolific and brash cusser ever. I think you should name the next B&S record "Fucking right mate this is new Belle and fucking Sebastian album you bloddy fucking cunt rag." I think Stevie might like it...hows about it Mick? Steve C. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Poppixxie at xxx.com Tue Nov 9 05:19:36 1999 From: Poppixxie at xxx.com (Poppixxie at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 00:19:36 EST Subject: Sinister: stash the tea, stash the tea- the british are coming Message-ID: <0.b790f9c1.255908e8@aol.com> goood evening all. i guess some of you shall be reading this in the morning but well i hope you then had a good evening or will have one tonight. incessant rambling must be put to and end- i shall accomplish this task with a period. zombies yes! i am quite bedazzled by that lovely band. they are a quintessential sixties group...and when you get sick of the beatles, byrds, beach boys and simon and arty the zombies is what you have to run to. nick drake wouldn't be too shaby either. lately i've been really into video game-like sounding music. my dearest friend seth accidently lended me his soundtrack to final fantasy vii....which actually means i placed it into my cd case while we were on holiday a few weeks ago and never gave it back. anyhow, i've been parading around my house to it all the day long. fabulouso!! so in continuing with the trend i purchased takako minekawa. she's cute. spunky. though i also purchased the minders "hooray for tuesday" and tortoise. very diverse trip to the record store yet all yummy nonetheless. some sad news though, i found out today i am allergic to nuts. yes, my jaw locked and my skin felt as if i had a sunburn...very peculiar. and yes i am finallly going to work some content in....and here it goes.... okay, also on a sadder note gigmania.com tried to fool me today and i fell for it's wiles. although i know them not to be on tour as of now, i typed in belle and sebastian just for kicks. the screen proceeded to act according to response of glad tidings- belle and sebastian are playing, i exclaimed! however the screen followed up it's rising action with a grave disappointment- nothing. a blank computer staring straight at me with it's dread-awful glow. hmmmmm....... i think it's time for me to do some homework (dread). farewell, shawnee +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Thessaly1 at xxx.com Tue Nov 9 05:30:45 1999 From: Thessaly1 at xxx.com (Thessaly1 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 00:30:45 EST Subject: Sinister: a plea Message-ID: <0.3cd4e17c.25590b85@aol.com> hey there kids! i was browsing amazon.uk in search of a copy of "nalda said" and alas, they have it, but with the cost of shipping (about 5 pounds for a wee book) i would end up spending 17 bucks for it! i am sure it would be worth every cent, but if there was a kind soul out there who could purchase and send the book to me for less moola and would have a happy day! see, i am a teacher and all and horribly underpaid and don't have much dough to throw around. well e-mail me privately if you are feeling generous and want to help out an american lass. :o) toodles, jennifer juniper +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Tue Nov 9 13:30:35 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:30:35 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: sheep and sex Message-ID: Hello, Looks like it's me again, I always seem to turn up round here in the end. /me flops on your sofa for a bit. Thank you those who have done their little bits to revive the list after it had its near-fatal heart seizure, and been brave enough to post thoughtful things in the midst of the raging inferno. No thanks to the few who haven't bothered, and just followed the dictates of their flying egotistical fingers (good name for a band? no), and not really added to our collective consciousness. This list seems to be dividing nicely into sheep and goats. I can't remember whether we're supposed to prefer sheep or goats, someone biblical will remind me, but lets say the sheep CARE because I once knew a sheep called Boris in Normandy who ate apples out of your hand at the table. So I'm pleased to see there are very few goats, if you're following me, and their numbers might drop a little more in a bit. I said I would do something if anyone tried to start up that ridiculous non-debate again, and my god, there's nothing original in it. No disrespect for goats. Just please remember, if you send a mail to the list trying to start up the debate all over again of who's posting what, criticising others posts, picking people off with your big penis-shaped gun, you'll be getting a mail from me. And the rest of you, please know that although Mummy gets a little angry, she loves you, especially those who take more than 5 minutes over what they send to us all. And those who've mailed me I'm *still* wading through so don't take my lack of reply as anything other than being like a squirrel with too many nuts. I fully expect a mail from Peter Miller (sheep of this parish) about big penis-shaped guns now, hopefully. Did I dream or did someone called Spencer Lloyd send a mail a month or so ago about doing the business in a park and his "colleague" humming the theme from "Cats - The Musical" as he did? More of that please Spencer, it was a delightful treatise on sex, love, music and power in the 21st Century. Or was it another list I was on? How embarrassing. Has anyone else bought the Magnetic Fields triple, put it on, thought "ho-hum" and put it in the cupboard, only to find it leap out and whack you on the back of the head a bit later? There's something fabulous about a single piece of work (because I think it is) which is so long that by the time you've got to the end, you can't remember the beginning again, and when you get to it you think, "oh yeah THAT" and like it all over again. I think it's clever and nice and cosy and scary and I don't care if bits sound a bit like the Divine Comedy, Tim. Oh and thanks for those who've told me that the latest messages page on the archive site seems to have some messages from January in it. They're actually from November, and I was the first to give Jeff, who runs the site, the bad news that it had happened - he's looking at it. Jeff's doing a wonderful service though, for free, and makes a lot of people happy, so he gets a big round of applause from me. A bit like Spencer. In lighter news, I'm going to start up a new photo gallery for Sinister, and see if anyone dares send me anything. If anyone sends any, it's going to be called "Squishy Bits", or "Gimme Some Skin" or something, and what you have to do is send me a close-up of a part of your body, in focus or not, and I'll put them up on the page. If any particular theme starts to dominate, I might call it "Breasts and Penises". If I get enough bits to make up a person, I might turn list management over to it. Oh and Katrina's just sent me another B&S diary. To follow. Unless you can anonymize your mail yourself (you can and it's most acceptable), it's likely I will know whose bit is whose, but you can always start a new hotmail account and send it me from there if you're shy. I promise that I won't ever divulge who owns what, and your bits will be labelled like in a morgue. This ain't no list crush. But please don't send me stupid cuttings out of Freeman catalogues (say) because if I find people cheating I'll go in a sulk and close it down - genuine you-bits please, I won't be accepting "funnies". I'm hoping Peter sends me a picture of his big penis-shaped gun though. Brings a different perspective on "put a bit of you in your posts to the list". I like sheep. Honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Tue Nov 9 13:34:07 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:34:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: guardian band diary (fwd) Message-ID: Here goes. Enjoy - Katrina tells me it's on Mick's band site anyway, if you've been there today but if not, well, it's here too. Honey ---------- Forwarded message ---------- DIARY OF A BAND 27th October 1999 Stuart Murdoch passes the baton on to Chris Geddes for the next Belle and Sebastian diary Being a Guardian columnist has afforded me a lifestyle I could previously only have dreamed of. After my first one was published, my friend Andrew Divine and myself were invited to DJ at the London girl-group night Da Doo Ron Ron. The night went pretty well, if you'll pardon my unchecked egotism, even though Andrew wouldn't let me play the Roxanne Shante record I had with me. It was probably fair enough. Most folk there were pretty 60's doing that London mod dancing. We dragged them right up to date though, with a set ranging from 60's female soul right through to 70's female soul. Somehow they kept the roof on, but the night was livened up with the presence of a fair Glasgow contingent. Among them was Stevie Jackson who along with Richard had been at an awards dinner the previous night. Also at the dinner was living legend Ronnie Wood. Woody was allegedly too inebriated to speak, so Stevie, ever the gent, gave him a glass of champagne as he was leaving. A typical evening for both of them, obviously. I briefly attempted record shopping this afternoon, but my head was too sore to do much so I went for the train to see my parents. Mum is going to Canada with her sister to visit their other sister at the weekend. I've not been down here since Christmas so I thought I'd come through to see her and Dad before she goes. The upshot of all this jet-setting about is that this time the deadline catches up with me in Essex. It's not all glamour, though; I missed the 'History of Pornography' to write this. Anyway, I'm going to have to submit this by electronic means which is quite a leap forward considering I walked into the office with the last one scrawled on a reporter's notebook. Times change fast. Chris Geddes +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk Tue Nov 9 14:31:02 1999 From: Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk (Sarah Wheeler) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 14:31:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Tommy Sheridan on a t-shirt....you've got to be joking Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19991109143102.006a1f7c@pop-server.cent.gla.ac.uk> Comrades Yes, I too attended the Socialism 2000 thingymajig. It was interesting, if not a bit scary as we walked past people having indepth conversations about 'issues', and 'fighting the cause' etc etc. And it smelt really bad too. Alasdair pointed out that Stuart was going a bit grey, although I think it was just the light, or possibly the effects of Alasdair consuming vast quantities of methylated spirits over the previous two days. Anyways, if he is going grey, it would help to explain the (unfortunate) overuse of red hair dye earlier this year. In true Belle and Sebastian style, the workshop did not start until about 45 minutes after it should have, and Stuart's, ahem, speech was short, but not short enough for him, me thinks, who did not seem to know what to say. He looked as if he had just been taken from the Clairol Loving Care aisle in Boots and plonked on the stage. We still think he's great though, don't we, Heather??? The whole fiasco was most enjoyable though, despite the non-appearance of Chris Geddes, who was probably in the pub drowning his sorrows over the football. Oh and Heather embarrassed me and Alasdair by cheering and yelling and clapping and stamping her feet every time Stuart said something[1]. This following the blatant attempt to get Mick Cooke's attention by grabbing my tits on Friday evening at the Bedsit[2]. Ttutt, you just can not take some people anywhere! Anyways, I had a simply sinistertastic weekend. Cheers to all involved. Oh yeh, while I'm here.....I'll be moving to London in 2 weeks. If anyone can help me out with accommodation, either a room, or advice on how to go about getting somewhere, can they mail me privately. I'll love you to bits, I really will. Actually, I love you all. Comrade Sheenee xxxx [1] and [2] - one of these is simply not true +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From redden at xxx.com Tue Nov 9 14:38:07 1999 From: redden at xxx.com (danielle redden) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 09:38:07 -0500 Subject: Sinister: penis shaped guns Message-ID: my mum, your mum, our mum wrote: >Has anyone else bought the Magnetic Fields triple, put it on, thought >"ho-hum" and put it in the cupboard, only to find it leap out and whack >you on the back of the head a bit later this happened to me after i returned from a magnetic fields gig on sunday evening. on opening the cupboard for a tea-cup i was whacked on the head three times. of course it was on the front of the head rather than the back. painless indeed, but i stumbled to my cd player, put 'em on, and was is a dizzy silly state late into the evening. on a bed a peacocks and roses - for contrast. i woke up monday morning with my clothes still on, amazingly enough. sitars make me conscious of my posture. and b&s make me speak in accents. if the rumors are true next spring will be a season of staight spines and expatriotes from the old world slapping me upside the head for my mockery. i apologize for my former post (the one prior to this one.) i was drunk. i hallucinating about all the unbrellas in london. my lips were chapped. i was longing to buy a buffalo bank from a truck stop in nebraska. danielle Whaat!!! Have you tried The Doghouse??! Get your FREE WEB-BASED EMAIL account at: http://doghousemail.lycos.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Lana622 at xxx.com Tue Nov 9 14:51:03 1999 From: Lana622 at xxx.com (Lana622 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 09:51:03 EST Subject: Sinister: You like Belle and Sebastian too?...Cool! Ow! Message-ID: <0.4ecbcddc.25598ed7@aol.com> Hey there, Wow! It's been a long time since I posted (waiting for someone to acknowledge her absence) (still waiting) Well, anyway...I'm back, and I'm not going to ask a stupid B+S question that everyone else asks like I used to. I'll tell you a humiliating story about B+S instead. I've been at college since August now (Carnegie Mellon University, if you want to know) and I have not seen *one* person with Belle and Sebastian badges on their bookbags or person. It's been quite upsetting. But I was walking out of bio class on Friday and ran into a guy I knew who was talking to his roomate. He stared in shock at my bag, and then said "josh, josh, she's got the pins!" It took me a second to discern that "the pins" wasn't some disfiguring facial abnormality, but when I saw josh eagerly showing me his bag (which had all nine badges on it) I quickly figured out what he was referring to. Well, to make a long story short, neither one of us had ever met anyone else on campus who like Belle and Sebastian, let alone someone who would put badges on their backpack. So everything's just going really great, and I'm walking and talking very enthusiastically to this (awfully cute) guy who likes my favorite band in the entire world, and I just get the words "what's your favorite album?" out before I walk right into a pole. Oh, the shame. Being the nice guy that he is, he didn't laugh...his eyes just wrinkled up in a show of (hopefully not fake) concern, and he said "are you all right?" And I had to say that yes, I was, and it would have been all right if some jerk behind me hadn't yelled out at the top of his voice "DID YOU JUST RUN INTO A POLE?" ha ha...very funny. Possibly the most embarassing thing that's ever happened to me, and it was B+S related. Nobody on this list can probably relate, but hopefully you can all either feel bad for me or laugh at me behind your hands. I think Jen (the owly girl) and I should start up a Belle and Sebastian related injury club. Wow, I'm even laughing at myself now. That felt healthy. Oh, and one more thing...even though I ran into a pole while I was talking to him, josh lent me the amazing dog on wheels single. Does anyone else think that the first guitar riffs off of track 3 are exactly the same as that offspring song "the kids aren't all right"? Does anyone even *know* that song? Okay, just checking. Watch out for poles, Laine +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hmcdo at xxx.com Tue Nov 9 15:10:17 1999 From: hmcdo at xxx.com (heather mcdonald) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 07:10:17 PST Subject: Sinister: i just had to add something..... Message-ID: <19991109151019.66436.qmail@hotmail.com> hello all of my fellow sinister kids. i just had emerge from lurkdom to address a few rumors flying around the list about me right now. for instance, this thing about me grabbing sarah's tits to get mick's attention. what sarah forgot to tell you was that before we hit the dance floor, she whispered to me, "let's go dance next to mick, and when he looks over at us, you reach out and feel me up. he'll love it." to be honest, i was really uncomfortable with the whole thing, but i like sarah and didn't want to hurt her feelings. unfortunately, it was all for naught. we don't even know for sure if he noticed. and the socialist thing. well, sarah is again confused, because it was she who kept yelling while stuart was talking. i think she was making him mess up. and see, it couldn't have been me, because i've lost my voice. and sarah and alasdair are being too hard on stuart, because they were afraid to ask where to buy tickets at. i had to ask, despite 1)not having a voice and 2) not even being scottish. it was the scottish socialist party convention, after all. too bad chris didn't turn up, but thank goodness mick didn't come in his place, because then i'm sure sarah would have wanted me to grab her boobs all over again, and i bet that would have really distracted him. but, i have to say, all in all, i give stuart credit for not laughing during the question and answer section. sample question, "do you think selling out is like remixing?" unfortunately, the rest of what sarah and alasdair had to say was the honest to goodness truth. we did scare waitresses this weekend. it really wasn't very nice. i used to be a waitress. i would have hated us. but i'm pretty sure it was ailsa's fault we drank so much. we also saw a teddy bear with huge tits over the weekend. it was some sort of theme. anyway. you'll forgive me of i've made a lot of typing mistakes, right? i'm sick and i'm medicated. i'm going back undercover now. love, heather ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From u01cjtc at xxx.uk Tue Nov 9 15:31:25 1999 From: u01cjtc at xxx.uk (Colin Campbell) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 15:31:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: sheep and sex In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Honey wrote: > dividing nicely into sheep and goats. I can't remember whether we're > supposed to prefer sheep or goats, someone biblical will remind me, but The thing about goats is they are such sensitive animals, yet at the same time so utterly stupid. Kind of like poets and artists. I found this written down, in one of my note books, last night, I don't think i wrote it myself, coz my observations of farm animals are not quite this keen. I may have thought it up in a moment of sober clarity, allthough these are rare, and if anyone recognises where it is from i would be most greatful. Life meanders on only life now includes my spanking new Isobel and fox, t-shirt, which i hope one day to wear in front of the portly rector of my higher education establishment of choice, classa (fat lady) dickson wright, as she is a supporter of fox hunting, she'll proably just laugh though, coz she's supposed to be very nice, despte not liking foxes. But seiously kids, be carefull, swans are beautiful, but deadly. colin. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From justin at xxx.com Tue Nov 9 15:46:20 1999 From: justin at xxx.com (Justin Williams) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 09:46:20 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Boston meet-up? Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19991109092649.009b99f0@delafont.com> Morning kids, I'm going to be in Boston from Dec 19 - Jan 4, so unfortunately I'm going to be away from all my friends over Christmas and New Years. Does anyone know of a New Year's or Christmas meet-up in the area? I've never been to Boston before so if I get no replies I'll be forced to spend New Years' Eve with my Great Aunt whom I have never met, either that or I'll just wander about aimlessly until I find a bar that isn't too seedy and debaucherous, or one that is for that matter. E-mail me privately if you know of anything. I apologize to Honey if I could have been more resourceful about finding this out. For all I know there is a fabulously designed directory of events somewhere, but I am at work and have little time to look. I hope everyone is doing great... Justin "Happiness runs in a circular motion, Thought is like a little but upon the sea... Everybody is a part of everything anyway, You can have everything if you let yourself be." - Donovan Leitch +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sadandsentimental at xxx.com Tue Nov 9 15:52:51 1999 From: sadandsentimental at xxx.com (Curtis Heath) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 09:52:51 -0600 Subject: Sinister: (No Subject) Message-ID: It was going to be a good day today. I knew because there was a piece of hardcandy left in my pocket from the last time I wore these bluejeans. That's always nice. All day I played with the crisp plastic wrapper that surrounded the candy, twirling it round and round in my pocket. Whatever bad things that might happen today would be resolved this evening when I savored the sweetness between the roof of my mouth and my tongue. But it seems that a grasshopper landed on me the last time I wore these jeans. He must've clinched to my jeans until I hung them up for the night, at which time he crawled in my pocket. You can imagine my surprise this evening when my hardcandy saviour turned out to be what was left of his head. Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://my.lycos.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peter.ramsdale at xxx.com Tue Nov 9 16:21:28 1999 From: peter.ramsdale at xxx.com (Pete Ramsdale) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 16:21:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: We've burnt the shed, it's a lonely view...... Message-ID: <38284A08.8DEE48D8@wdr.com> Oh, If only Anthony Kiedis knew how much fun I have by mishearing all his lyrics...... Hello all. I wasn't going to post, since I am still only half way through my treatise on why Gregory's Girl reminds me of B&S, but I have a terrible suspicion that the powers that be have just called me a goat. And although I do tend to eat the furniture if left on my own for long enough, I'd much rather be a sheep. Even if that does mean that I get shagged by welsh people. I've had worse...... As usual, Archel has made me think. To which I can only say: "Don't. It hurts". But I'll reply anyway. The first bit was: > in an attempt to fill the (actually quite small) void left by my boyfriend, which made me think (but only for a minute) that the usually ever-so-demure Ms. Playforth was having a right old go at her ex-boyfriend's penis size. But after a while I realised that my altogether too rapid conclusion was simply a product of talking to too many of my own ex-girlfriends. I'm sorry I ever doubted you, Archel. Even though you did manage to compound my confusion by unanimously stating that fireworks are better than sex. The following was also mentioned: > "twelve tons of cornflakes pass under this bridge every day" which I can only assume is a slogan painted on a bridge. It isn't, however, the best one, which in my humble (but nevertheless completely correct) opinion is painted on a bridge in Oldham: "Oldham: The home of the tubular bandage". Now there's something to be proud of. I was also impressed (and slightly amused) by Carsmile's references to "The Laughing Gnome" by David Bowie. When I was back in Manchester, said P!O!P! superstar did a two-hour radio phone-in, the premise of which was that he would play any song that somebody rang in and asked for. The great bit about it was that the whole shebang had to be called off after the three-hundred and seventh request for The Laughing Gnome. I chortled. I don't think I'm a gnome, though, although bits of me are suspiciously small. According to various ex-girlfriends, at least. As for B&S content, well, I shall wait until I finish the stuff on why Gregory's Girl reminds me of B&S to post it. Or not, if it's crap. But, I'll offer simultaneous congratulations and possible commiserations to Laine, who wins my ultimate admiration for the obviously adept and downright sexy way she managed to club herself around the head with an exceedingly large, vertical lump of metal whilst talking about B&S. That's true dedication, that is - selflessly extoling the virtues of our favourites to another possible list member whilst risking broken bones and brain damage when big inanimate things jump out at you. Watch out for poles indeed. Especially that John Paul the Second character. Right nasty bastard he is - he'll lamp you one as soon as look at you. Here endeth todays lesson, lol p xx. -- -----------------------------*||*-------------------------------- "I am plagued by doubts. What if everything is an illusion and nothing exists? 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This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Tue Nov 9 16:47:05 1999 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 16:47:05 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Surprisingly full of Belle and Sebastian, actually Message-ID: I listened to "If You're Feeling Sinister" last night for the first time in ages and it sounded like it did the day I bought it. Or better, even, some of the songs feel more appropriate now. I went through a phase of not listening to it even though I thought it was the best album ever, because it was simply *too good*, and if I listened to it too much I thought it might lose it's specialness. A bit stupid, really when you think about it. The best Belle and Sebastian moment is when the piano comes in at the start of If You're Feeling Sinister. That and the bit at the start of Fox In The Snow when Staurt sings "..where do you go.." and he sounds like he's about to die from a broken heart. Don't die Stuart! Here, chew on this Curly Wurly! I went to see some barrel burning on Friday and almost got beaten up by one of the barrel burners. He was enormous and his beard was thick from years of inbreeding. I wasn't punched though. I only had my face squashed against a tree. I was staying for the weekend with a bunch of crazy art students who seemed to spend most of their time talking about nude parties and "chemistry", if you know what I mean. I half expected Jarkko Frantila to turn up. It was fun, though, and we had fireworks. Hooray! I think the new B+S album should be called "A Scarf That's Big Enough For Everyone". I could do with one of those at the moment. And a nice cup of tea. And, mmm, sausages. Right then, I'm off to photograph my squishy bits. That's bound to amuse the ladies at Boots. Bye Robin xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Nov 9 19:00:44 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 20:00:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Postman Always Rims Twice Message-ID: <01bf2ae4$ba103e40$LocalHost@itjfvkli> I'm sure I speak for hundreds of thousands of listees when I say that Blake will be most fondly remembered for his enormous contributions to the huge pile of 70s WHO content that has graced the list over the years. Let's hope that LIFEHOUSE project finally comes to fruition, eh Blake? I've seen a film called SLAM. Is this what Friday nights down the Po Caff are like? I thought it was a terrible film. I much prefer Rufus Thomas in WATTSTAX: THE LIVING WORD. He makes up little poems to get funky chicken pitch invaders off the field, and it works. And it's funny too, SLAM isn't very funny. To be honest it's not bad at all, just not as good as I was expecting. A bit po-faced. Someone was talking about the shocking prices to get books sent from Britain to America. You should be able to order via USA Amazon, thus saving on postage. I once ordered an American book from the British one. I felt like I'd really achieved something. I don't think you'll be able to get it sent for less anyway. You can get your own back later by ordering something really massive that costs a bomb to send. That's my theory anyway. It's a bit sad really. I'm on page 281 of THE MITROKHIN ARCHIVE. I think it's all made up. I'm also thinking of becoming a spy. I'm going to start by defecting to the BPI and telling them everything I know. Last week, I wrote: and who can honestly say that they haven't had a good chug about Ally McBeal? Less than an hour later, Trousers wrote: PS: Mr Miller, I'll get back to you on Monday, if that's ok? Hmmm. I thought that was really funny over the weekend, but in the cold light of day it seems plainly obvious that Trousers wasn't referring to Ally McBeal fuelled masturbation at all. Still, it's the thought that counts. Another thing that seemed really funny over the weekend was the thought of George W. Bush being asked to name the leader of the Belle and Sebastian mailing list: "Yeah, the mummy. That's the guy, the mummy." "And his name?" "The mummy's name?" "Yes." "Mummy." Well, I thought it was funny anyway. Ms Playforth, why don't you ask Shirley Bassey to lend you that dress she wore to the rugby on Saturday? It's bound to do the trick. And make it clear that, unlike some, you don't pop your cork for every man you meet. You should definitely go, someone might give you a job. It's all wheels within wheels. I know this message's over, and it never really began. Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From untitled at xxx.com Tue Nov 9 19:38:25 1999 From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 14:38:25 -0500 Subject: Sinister: London is full of Americans, the The Pastels and 20% of GEORGE DICKIE Message-ID: <199911091438_MC2-8C6A-1478@compuserve.com> Hello people. I just thought I should mention that I have recently purchased a copy of Me And A Monkey On The Moon by Felt. I have to say that I think that it is extremely good. I purchased an Orange Juice cd also, but that is of lesser quality in my opinion. If anyone has any dirt on Felt them please mail me. If you are too lazy to press the Reply button then press your finger here ( mailto:untitled at CompuServe.com ) That's me that is. I also asked for - a couple of weeks ago - information about the The Pastels. I got a few responses from the very lovely kind hearted folk of the forests giving it large in the low down innit. I also sent an e-mail to some bloke who sometimes plays with the The Pastels, he said that Katrina from the The Pastel's would mail me. She hasn't though. But may I applaud that man, or woman who ever they were who said that GEORGE DICKIE KICKES ASS. I have mailed MR DICKIE my self and we have agreed to MAKE BABIES TOGETHER. ALL 20% OF US - never mind. Rob - all 80% of me +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Archel1978 at xxx.com Tue Nov 9 19:53:45 1999 From: Archel1978 at xxx.com (Archel1978 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 14:53:45 EST Subject: Sinister: you made me forget... Message-ID: <0.77e875a7.2559d5c9@aol.com> BITCH thanks for the advice erica. have since discovered that no fewer than 2 of my female friends also hate bitchwoman (and she didn't even try to steal their boyfriends) so maybe we will launch a three-pronged attack. i can't quite bring myself to admit that we're just shallow and jealous as hell. HEFNER i suppose what darren hayman meant was that if you can drop names of obscure bands into conversation then it proves you go out looking for new and exciting and different music, rather than just listening to what's on the radio. (on a side note, isn't it ironic that the stereophonics sang 'you shouldn't believe your radio' when what our radios tell us is that stereophonics are really quite a good band worth playing until your ears bleed in protest???) but anyway, i agree with rob that you can prove you're passionate about music by your devotion to the beatles or many other bands. however, you do not qualify as passionate about music if you play 'steptacular' on repeat 12 hours a day. you may be passionate, but you would not recognise real music with real love put into it if it bit you on the arse. sorry steps fans. MORE HEFNER darren does whine a tad on hefner records, but my god he's right on the button when it comes to painful truths about love and sex. course, he can also talk some utter tosh about swans having sex with geese, which betrays an ignorance of both ornithology and greek myth. PORN i am fascinated to hear that chris geddes is an avid watcher of the 'history of pornography' programme. what can this mean? PENIS pete, i probably did half mean to be snide about my boyfriend's dimensions. or at least, i didn't care enough to change the wording to something less ambiguous. (oh, and the cornflake thing was me misquoting - as i now realise - from gregory's girl. but if you're doing a treatise on it then you know that already.) FAVE B&S BIT at the beginning of 'you made me forget my dreams' when they have to start again, and struan says 'uh huh' in that dreamy, breathy way like he's just concentrating on the music. sorry i'm being so verbose, prolix, talkative, rambling at the moment. i feel like i need to post lots in case i am ripped away from sinister again to drive forklift trucks or whatever the benefits agency see fit. luv archel xxx ps: wasn't the dress shirls wore on saturday just a welsh flag? or was that another occasion? if so, i think not. dragons don't suit me. ******* Rachel Playforth archel at iname.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Tue Nov 9 21:38:36 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 16:38:36 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Matthew 25:33 Message-ID: <199911091639_MC2-8C6C-B9B6@compuserve.com> Hi Ruminants, Can I beat Chris Leonard? Er, I mean can I beat Chris Leonard by being the first to confirm that listmummyHoney's instinct & memory were right, & that the sheep were set on the right hand & inherited the Kingdom, whereas the goats were set on the left* & were sent to the Eternal Fire with the devil & his angels. And now I can't get rid of a disturbing image of the young Honey turning the pages of the Freemans's catalogue with one hand. *Actually, this is a bit of a problem for us on the SINISTER list :( David Derringer Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ThisSuffering at xxx.com Tue Nov 9 22:45:47 1999 From: ThisSuffering at xxx.com (ThisSuffering at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 17:45:47 EST Subject: Sinister: los angeles meet ups? Message-ID: <0.d17116d5.2559fe1b@aol.com> dearest sinisteress.. is there any talk from you los angeles/southern california belle and sebastian kids for a meet up at any upcoming shows? for example : nov. 11th stereolab and olivia tremor control. @ the palace.. let's make some plans everyone! keep up 'posted' cheers carlos xoxox +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 9 23:03:45 1999 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 23:03:45 BST Subject: Sinister: how will i get her to strike a po (or a tinky winky) ? Message-ID: <1A176334A8E@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> hey kids, today was meant to be a good day. i knew this because i awoke to the sound of the boy with the thorn in his side being played on simon mayo's mystery years, the smiths seem to crop up with alarming regularity on this programme, but i musn't grumble. can anyone (in the uk, sorry to bore everyone else, but these things plague me) who was awake at this unholy hour confirm that the mysteryu voice was terry hall? because i had to leave before the answer was played. today, in fact, was a good day, although it managed to do that without anything actually happening, but i made mashed potato with real potatoes, got my ticket for the upcoming gorky's gig and had an afternoon nap, which was only interrupted by a horrible nightmare about ex-boyfriends and ugly girls. i have to agree with whoever it was that said they don't like girls (erica?) somehow i just always seem to get on better with blokes (and i don't even shag all of them). i always feel like when i meet a girl they are looking me up and down to see what features they can bitch about to their friends in the toilets later on. i think i'm paranoid denurr nurr nurr (shakes head in a rawk stylee) on the subject of meeting people called sebastian, my old head of sixth form called her son sebastian and she got really excited when she saw me wearing my people in flares t-shirt because it said sebastian, and apparently its really difficult to get things for your kids that have sebastian written on them. back to my productivity... .... i did some writing today - about parks in the autumn. this is because i walk past two parks on my way to uni. they're probably quite scary places, but at this time of year they give me a desperate longing to walk hand in hand with someone pretty, through the fields, kicking at the golden autumn leaves. sigh, now i feel lonely, but poetic, thats kind of a nice feeling, like a dull ache. one more thing, i write to you about all the crises and adventures i experience (well not everything, but you get the gist), and sometimes some of you reply. i make one passing comment about JAM and i'm bombarded with mail bellowing JAM JAM JAM!!! what does this say about my beloved sinistereenies? i'd rather not imagine. stay beautiful, fiona ++ fretting about whether i'm a sheep or a goat +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From csomeone at xxx.com Tue Nov 9 23:42:53 1999 From: csomeone at xxx.com (Cynthia Someone) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 15:42:53 PST Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19991109234253.14324.qmail@hotmail.com> *stands there, back to over a 1000 sheep and goats, picking nose obliviously* *goat comes and chews the bottom of my pants, eyeing me with a cold, goat eye* *in my alarm, tugging frantically upon my pants (and having just removed finger from nose) I find myself surrounded by sheeps and goats of all sizes, shapes, and colors* "um. hello." --i say, blushing, slightly pawing at the ground. I look down to the dust, only to find a pair of fluffy feet. and something itching at my neck. "baaah. baaah. bleat bleat baaah." jeepsters, I'm a sheep! I immediately fall to pondering. Does this mean I will like pokemon now? beanie babies? listen to the spice girls, or ricky martin? can I be a super karate ninja sheep, ready to conquer evil with a flying kick? because then I don't have to like pokemon. a newscaster on the news last night said "pokemon" and i cringed. that yellow glassy eyed creature scares me. black-eyed devil be gone! *and with my accurate, deadly toss of a six pointed star, the little yellow creature turned into a poof of smoke* we all love G!E!O!R!G!E! D!I!C!K!I!E! he's on the list crush rise. me likes robin stout too. I wish she posted more often. and me likes archel. and lesley jo. and i likes other peeps too, but I won't say who, cuz that would be telling! super cyn, the sheepy ninja girl ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From margarita at xxx.com Wed Nov 10 00:34:25 1999 From: margarita at xxx.com (triumphant loser) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:34:25 -0600 Subject: Sinister: this mail is pissing me off Message-ID: <002301bf2b13$59add240$494afacf@oemcomputer> I finaly get permission to start sending mail and this is what i get.....a big load of steaming horse dung. I cant get my messages sent because i use some form of overrated email.This better work this time or else.......ahhhhhhhhhhh +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From m.waggner at xxx.net Wed Nov 10 00:19:44 1999 From: m.waggner at xxx.net (Michele Waggner) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 19:19:44 -0500 Subject: Sinister: left handed six shooters Message-ID: <006101bf2b11$4bb2a320$2caa4f0c@amstech> Hey Sinisterines... Fireworks are better than sex because they go off with a bang... REPEATEDLY. FluffyStarry said something about mamas and shite awhile back, which wasn't very nice at all. She said it was Japanese, but I always thought people in that culture had a bit more respect than to talk bad 'bout their mamas. Someone outside London, give her a slap upside her haid. She also talked about Iggy Pop -- I could have run him over last year, in front of the Virgin Megastore in NYC. He was limping though and it wouldn't have been much sport. Iggy needs to go in a blaze of glory, run down by something better than a Nissan. I see Matt passed on another missive from the Squirrel Liberation Front. Now we've done it -- damn. I knew there was a reason we should have paid the ransom. Little Isobel has cracked and turned Patty Hearst on us, no good will come of this. Another cd will come of this. Burning up the airwaves with rodent protest songs. I suppose she'll start calling herself by some radical alias like "Nutella de Ville" or something and hold up the local bank brandishing a semi-automatic oak branch. No, that is NOT what she has now, that's a CELLO. On a related note, I got this sent to me at work. I was embarrassed to pass it on, but since we've decended into smut I guess it might shed a little light on Isobel's conversion... no, I'm not going to say another thing, just pass it on... http://www.texnet.net/golem/nsd/ ... and move along. Briskly. And say it wasn't me. I saw Patty Hearst in the local supermarket years back, after she'd been reintroduced to polite society -- with a vengeance. I was in the deli line and heard someone ask for Lorraine cheese in the most plummy finishing school voice I'd ever head. I turned around to smirk and there was Patty/Tanya in her best Gold-Coast matron outfit buying sandwich fixings. She looked a lot better in the beret and ammo belt, on the arm of Commander Cinque. I sigh for the failed Revolutions, I really do. Stylistically speaking. Bet she does too. Enough name dropping. I was SHOCKED to read today that there is a book called "The Anti-Christ and a Cup of Tea" which claims Prince Charles is the eponymous devil's spawn. Not the cup of tea, there's only one handle on the side of a teacup. Some other religious case says Satan could do better than that. I WISH Chris Leonard would come back. Maybe we could all join hands, click our heels together and say, "There's no place like home, there's no place like home," and he'd come back to us like the biblical Prodigal Son. Or a sheep. Either that or we kidnap his boss and find him one who is a bit more cyber-friendly. Is there a saying, "Better to be hung for a sheep as for a goat?" Goats are pretty well... nevermind. (No Matt, it was NOT me at all, I keep telling you.) I can commiserate with Lana and her pole incident. Once I was walking down a crowded sidewalk -- looking at nothing off to the side and daydreaming -- and bumped into an obstacle in my path. Being mortified and assuming people thought I was a clumsy oaf, I tried to save myself by rapidly turning and apologizing profusely -- to a parking meter. That's when the shoppers all began to guffaw loudly. When you do something like that, is it better to pretend it didn't happen, maintaining your cool and just Honey mentioned penis-shaped guns. Ask Honey about penis-shaped cat toys. Which are NOT at all. I think Honey has penises on the brain. Someone send one along please. That's more than enough of this. --michele +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 10 00:38:25 1999 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 00:38:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: primitive painters are ships floating on an empty sea Message-ID: strange times in the land of owen i had to give one of my uni tutors my e-mail address today but instead of the above one i gave her the one that is owen at belleandsebastian.org and she said to me in a rather matter of fact way 'oh one of my friends is in belle and sebastian, stevie, stevie jackson.' 'oh' i said as i couldnt think of anything else to say but i've got a meeting with her on thursday so if i can get any interesting gossip out of her i'll let you all know. perhaps i could have thought of something more appropriate than oh if i hadn't spent the previous 3 hours in the pub consoling a newly single female friend. that always happens to me cos im dead unthreatening and so they come to me when they break up with their exciting blokes in order to be convinced that there are nice guys in the world, then they start going out with the next exciting guy they meet. well i've decided to become interesting cos its obviously the way to get girls. to this end i am asking for sugestions of interesting, exciting and dangerous things to do to impress girls. so far i have thought of a) not ironing my jeans b) buying myself a small motor scooter c) allowing my cd collection to deviate from alphabetical order (not the vinyl though, a man can only go so far) d) pretending that i have actual friends who e-mail me and not just people i've never met right i'm of to continue puzling over whether i'm a sheep or a goat, hmmm a sugestion for the new album title "songs for sheep and goats" what do you think? what do you call a welshman with a sheep under one arm and a goat under the other? bisexual! many goodbyes my friends owen 'dangerous' lowery With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aic99 at xxx.edu Wed Nov 10 03:31:55 1999 From: aic99 at xxx.edu (AIC 99) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 22:31:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: i am out of the nursery!! In-Reply-To: <002301bf2b13$59add240$494afacf@oemcomputer> Message-ID: Hello! I rarely post to lists i'm on, but i find this one so lovely, that i had to write something at least once. :) The best time is now, since it's the beginning and i've got the courage. i've followed everyone's posts over the past 3 weeks. :) I had a hard time deleting things as there seemed to be something prett nice and lovely or inspiring in just about every post. so i've had a love introduction to the list i think... :) and well... i like sheep... :) before i go i should introduce myself though. :) My name's Andreea and i go to uni currently. I'm sure you'll hear from me again. peace and happiness and lovely days Andreea +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From margarita at xxx.com Wed Nov 10 04:32:38 1999 From: margarita at xxx.com (triumphant loser) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 22:32:38 -0600 Subject: Sinister: oh my where are my manners? Message-ID: <000a01bf2b34$9ec57e20$a78ffacf@oemcomputer> I am very sorry sinister mates for not properly interducing myself earlier. I assure you i have better manners then that. First, i am a complete bastard ( if you wish to address me as such that is fine by me). I do however respect others views. Im sure you will find me mildly offensive, perhaps a little caustic.....but oh well. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Wed Nov 10 06:00:00 1999 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 01:00:00 EST Subject: Sinister: HBO Reverb Sinister Special! Message-ID: <0.ccb633eb.255a63e0@aol.com> Next Tuesday (11-16) on HBOs Reverb, Wilco, the Flaming Lips and Super Furry Animals will all be featured playing live! Ok, its not our own lovely Belles, but its a smorgasboard of alot of "Sinister's Favorites" (tm) so I'll hope you'll tune in. Reverb is the great new HBO show that comes on Tuesdays at 11:30. It features alot of indie acts playing a handful of live songs in a club setting, and the sound is top notch! I'll be seeing Wilco in person that night (they are on a US tour, so watch out listees!), so I feel quite fortunate. Christa and Dan are going to so it may a mini-meeting of sorts. It'll be awesome! I'm watching some fairly decent twenty-something movie with Eliott Smith's "Either/Or" playing in the background from time to time (its not Good Will Hunting). Its got alot of no-name actors so I can't say whos in it...does anyone have any clue what it is? Love and Maryland Terrapins Steve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com Wed Nov 10 09:35:07 1999 From: babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?BabyChris=20Crystalballs?=) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 01:35:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: ATP back on / B&S gigs Message-ID: <19991110093507.12568.rocketmail@web1405.mail.yahoo.com> to begin nwith, I read on a teletext music page (ch4 - pg. 451) this morning that Anus Trajectory Problems is back on, on the 6th and 7th of April(I think). I don't know if some on has said this before, as I haven't checked my mail for 2 days. It said that all original tickets are still valid, with mogwai, the delgados, stereolab and others playing. god. I have just contributed something semi-useful. I mailed mick cook the other day asked for signed b&s goods for a charity raffle at the concert I'm organising. I mentioned that it would be nice if one of the band would come along, if they wern't busy - I just meant to come along and sample the music, not play - and he said that in january they would be busy rehearsing for some gigs - oh - joy!!! too....much......contribution........ must.....go....now..... oh, yeah - I wondered - do people think of b&s as a 'stoner band' - I thought exactly the opposite. oh, well. silly me. babychris CRYSTALBALLS __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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Name: not available URL: From ThisSuffering at xxx.com Wed Nov 10 12:00:28 1999 From: ThisSuffering at xxx.com (ThisSuffering at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 07:00:28 EST Subject: Sinister: everybody makes mistakes Message-ID: <0.ae7e09fc.255ab85c@aol.com> hello sinisters i dont know how many shoegaze rockers there are on the list, but a new album from the band starflyer 59 is about to be released. its very good. recommended for you MBV, and Slowdive fans. its on Tooth and Nail Records, and available from : Velvet Blue Music You can listen to some of it on there... I hope people agree with me cheers carlos xoxox +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed Nov 10 10:10:50 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:10:50 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I took her up the bum, which is a stupid name for a pub* Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22A2DF08@SERVER1> Owen confessed: "if I hadn't spent the previous 3 hours in the pub consoling a newly single female friend. that always happens to me cos im dead unthreatening and so they come to me when they break up with their exciting blokes in order to be convinced that there are nice guys in the world, then they start going out with the next exciting guy they meet. well i've decided to become interesting cos its obviously the way to get girls." But Owen, if I remember rightly, you have to carry a Big Stick and wear Sex Armour at all times in case pretty girls try to fuck you without warning? Or has the worm turned? Oh well, it happens to us all, mate. Good luck with not ironing :-) Just thought that, in memory of Alix Campbell, I'd remind you all that English Goats Are Great. She'll thank me for saying that, wherever she is ... Sheeny's coming to London! Yay! I can vouch for her being ace, so if anyone does have a roomto rent in the big city, give it to Sheeny, or go on, go on, go on, go on, etc. Off to cast a vote for that lush, pouting vixen Robin Stout :-), Markx *Craig Charles, I think, in his new stand-up show ******************************************************************* The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mireiamenchon at xxx.com Wed Nov 10 10:14:42 1999 From: mireiamenchon at xxx.com (Mireia Menchon) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 02:14:42 PST Subject: Sinister: Music will destroy us in the end... (I hope) Message-ID: <19991110101450.90671.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello.... This feels like my first time posting, although it's not... It's been really long since I last mailed something (something stupid probably) but nothing I could write was going to be of anyone's interest.....so I started thinking of unsubscribing...but I guess I'm a romantic and couldn't do it. I remained silent....till today..... Of course, nothing has changed and I still have nothing of great interest..... The other day I saw Hefner, too. And yes, they're great.... if we can't have B&S around here at least we have them! it was a very fine gig, although I was much impressed in Benicassim. I don't know if it was because it was the first time I saw them or what.... This time they were as charming and everything but...maybe I wasn't in a very happy mood...And they played for such a short time....or that's what it felt.....we wanted more! There were Baxendale, too. I don't know what to think about them...songs are nice but that guy gets on my nerves.... well, I hope this mail makes me wake up from my long sleeping and I start posting (like someone cares....I know...). Bye.... M ...and then you walk home missing what you never had. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Wed Nov 10 14:09:02 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:09:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Songs for herds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: HI! Being called a 'sheep' is quite an insult in Spanish.The exact word is not 'sheep' but lamb,I believe.Anyway,it means you are not able to express own ideas and to distinguish from the rest of the herd,essentially. I cross my fingers to prevent Sinister to become one of those...it is possible to disagree and stay all together simultaneously,if each of us add our two pences of tolerance and respect and 'care'...I started to sound so preachy as a washing powder for delicate clothes-off voice,all fluffy and so. It's more Isobel's role,isn't it?I can imagine her cuddling a baby lamb on the cover of 'The Gentle Waves' future single. Well, I just pointed that fan-clubs/lists,whatever have this tendency to put blinkers on people and I wouldn't like myself to become one of those who idolise any song their favourite band releases,any look they try,and develop certain reluctance to look around and check what's going on in other fields.So I welcome 'discussion'. To enlighten this serious comment, I would like to remark my surprise of Archel's conversion into 'ULTRABITCH' after the recent events.She should be given one of the classical Bette Davies's roles in likely remakes,after her exploration of the inner perverse lady who lies inside everyone. And to finish, my maybe favourite bit is the progression into the first chorus in 'TBWTAS'and my second biggest surprise of the week is to acknowledge my own dyke skiies. Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk Wed Nov 10 13:40:52 1999 From: pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk (Pamela Hutchinson) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:40:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: If you're feeling like a minister Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From 9852611 at xxx.ie Wed Nov 10 16:00:33 1999 From: 9852611 at xxx.ie (KIRWAN LOUISE) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:00:33 -0000 Subject: Sinister: speak, see, remember Message-ID: <2314694F6D6FD311841C009027AA4A081577E0@cronus.ul.ie> Good lord, it's been one of those days. ( weell, not really - but hey, it sounds far more dramatic like that...i think) nah, it just took 20 minutes of my life to get into my inbox today. not fun. ( insert exhaling slowly sighing noise here.....) I got to pretend i was a real photographer last night. hurrah! i was taking photos for the college paper at a gig in town. i hope they get put in ( they were in focus....mostly anyway). oh - i also ended up on the stage with the band. by mistake though - not cos i was invited or anything. i was backstage, poking around, looking for stuff to do, when i found a black curtain ( "what's behind here?"). anyway i ended up on the stage, looking desperately for the curtain (" crap, crap, crap - where is it?"). i found it in the end - i don't think too many people noticed me either :) only 2 weeks 'til i get to go and see Eddie Izzard. yay! he's about the only genuinely funny comedian out there and he's got such nice shoes. i've seen most of his videos and his stuff on ch4 - i'll die a happy girl if this show's half as funny as any of those. here's hoping...and one of my favourite lines; >>and they have this new improved thing, with cat and dog food, new improved, and who knows? Who checks? You have to give it to your dog, and say "is it new improved?" And the dog goes "I don't know, I'm a dog". << i don't know why that's so funny. it just is. no b'ns content today. only vaguely b'ns like events - like watching Dave ( editor of college paper ) from afar. i dunno, i feel silly getting of the bus, seeing what direction he's heading in and going the same way. i should really do something, but what? As my friend ben would say - toughen up bitch ( damned aussie :) hmmm. anyway...that's all that's in my head today. see ya round mishter bond.... louise (ps, don't you wish the keyboard had a sarcasm button. the text would come up as red perhaps) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From macarthur at xxx.com Wed Nov 10 17:57:01 1999 From: macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:57:01 -0000 Subject: Sinister: thunder cats are on the loose.. References: <1A176334A8E@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> Message-ID: <009701bf2ba5$799884a0$2d628cd4@default> Sexy Stoats, >i have to agree with whoever it was that said they don't like >girls (erica?) somehow i just always seem to get on better with >blokes (and i don't even shag all of them). eeek, non! c'est faux! I like girls *and* boys. Sometimes boys are better because you can snog them, and I guess they never steal your new pink nail varnish (with a few exceptions), and you don't often see them dragging their contemparies across the dancefloor of the local disco *by their hair* (while pulling up their skirt) or attempting to stab you in the neck with a cigarette while you push in the queue for the toilet, BUT - they *are* guilty of swilling beer, eating curries and not always wearing clean pants. I like being a girl, all the best boys want to be girls (struan, for a start) and I like their company just as much as "the boys". Boys are good for two things: putting up shelves and buying drinks.~ Talking of boys, M said: >There were Baxendale, too. I don't know what to think about them...songs are >nice but that guy gets on my nerves.... pow! hi-yah! That is the sound of me electronically kicking you in the shins. I won't hear a word against Tim Benton, he's the loveliest thing ever. Apart from Alex James at the recent Q awards - maybe he does only have *one* t-shirt at the moment, with a curry stain that doesn't seem to be shifting, but oh, what a pretty thing he is. Boom boom boom boom. That's the sound of my heart beating. It appears I have been in Frequent Use. I'm going back into hibernation now, Erica x p.s (sniffle) English goats *are* great... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Boneboy54 at xxx.com Wed Nov 10 19:15:56 1999 From: Boneboy54 at xxx.com (Boneboy54 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:15:56 EST Subject: Sinister: Be patient and I'll let you see my carrot rope. Message-ID: <0.ee838bdf.255b1e6c@aol.com> Hey, 'Speak, See, Remember' ... Pleasure to see that there are some *Pavement* fans out there... In my opinion, I regard "Terror Twilight" as one of the finest releases this year. "Hey little boy, would you like to know whats in my pocket or not? It's no ploy. It's no gimmick. It's the chance of a lifetime." Best, amtjr +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Tigerxdare at xxx.com Wed Nov 10 19:09:38 1999 From: Tigerxdare at xxx.com (Tigerxdare at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:09:38 EST Subject: Sinister: with a match thats mean and some gasoline you wont see me anymore Message-ID: <0.5707c5d1.255b1cf2@aol.com> hello everyone, i have not written in awhile, things here have been crazy, and alot of stuff has had me confused and upset, but everything now is better, and things are looking good. i miss you all. now that things have settled down a bit i can keep up with my email and write you all back sooner...i must say, i heard the new fiona apple cd and it is completely incredible. i love her so much and i think she has incredible talent. i saw her new video and it was very cool looking, i found out more about it and it was actually shot with an old camera from the 1920's and i thought that was just really interesting... i rented the movie 200 cigarettes, i had already seen it once before in the theaters, and i felt the need to rent it again because it was just so damn good, and courtney love is fab....so me and the girl i was seeing, well me and her just didnt work out. i met a new boy a couple of weeks ago, and i really like him alot, me and him have been seeing each other and its just really confusing to me now, because i really hate it when you are seeing someone but you never know if you can actually consider them your boyfriend/girlfriend. i really hate that you know? i hate how everything is so damn casual in the 90's, i mean dating isnt even a word people even use that much anymore, its just like everyone just goes together and just hooks ups and noone is ever really caring about anything more than their own selfish psysical needs. i think that we as a sinister community are growing in numbers all the time, and strength is in numbers you know. we should start a revival of dating. i think the dates should come over with flowers and that you all should get dressed up in cute/handsome clothes and have a nice evening out. not just this random psysical shite and then goodbye. well whos with me here?? im sure some of you have got to want to do that and really care about your emotional closeness with the other person....alright well i must be going. i will talk to you darlings later. xoxo, lauren +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.org Wed Nov 10 22:39:05 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:39:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: These are the best days Message-ID: I've been pretty geared since I heard that Hefner was playing cleveland in a few weeks. I saw two great shows this weekend--Archer Prewitt/Quasi and the Olivia Tremor Control. I finally managed to track down a Boy Crazy recording. I bought a record player for my friend. And then I found out the best thing that could be said next to "Belle and Sebastian are touring" and having it not be a lie. The SOFTIES are recording a NEW ALBUM. When I saw that Jen had gone off with Gaze and Jen was in Kissing Book I feared the worst. But they are back. The Softies are back. And the world is a better place. Brandt "It's me, it's me, it's that D-O-Double G." --The Road Dogg +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Wed Nov 10 22:23:47 1999 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:23:47 EST Subject: Sinister: we all live in a yellow soup turrine.... Message-ID: <0.56aa84c6.255b4a73@aol.com> Ok, I know I'm not the world's best speller... Hello all and sundry! I think I have to say, that Hefner are amazing. But, yeah, darren has a whiny voice. I only bought breaking god's heart because of the crap reviews it was getting, and i thought, "well, maybe somebody should root for the underdog and buy their record." And lo and behold, I did and promptly burst into tears at The Librarian. Mind you, I did have my period then (tooooo much information....). Also Gregory's Girl, is the best film in the history of best films. I first saw it when I was 10 (it was made before I was born doncha know) and I just thought it was really funny. But then I went and called my dad a prick really loudly in church, because I didn't know what it was. My, my. I have been naughty this week. I've been dogging school choir to go to public speaking and I've been dogging public speaking to go down to the chip shop. Oh, and I'm dogging RSNO practice to go to a debating competition. If anybody happens to be going, I'll be main speech for St Brides High School, and please don't ask me hard questions. I listened to ooberman for the first time today, and I think they're amazing. Does anyone else feel slightly disturbed by the idea of struan in a pixie outfit. I definately think that mick cooke should dress up as a pixie for next halloween though, because he has a pixie face. I think that's complimentary, but I don't know how he stands on fictional characters which feature commonly in Enid Blyton stories that aren't about boarding school. Bye bye, Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jbaze at xxx.com Wed Nov 10 22:31:54 1999 From: jbaze at xxx.com (Josh Baze) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:31:54 -0600 Subject: Sinister: thanks, georgians! Message-ID: <072439845C05D311A3E90004ACB8B73410D32D@REVEXCHANGE> thank you to the kind souls who recommended what to do/where to go to buy records while in atlanta. i had a great trip thanks to you all. if you ever find yourself in atlanta, tune in to Album 88.5 FM (a great recommendation)! Without question the only station where you can hear a set of: hefner merle haggard the wedding present handsome boy modeling school thanks again. josh +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Wed Nov 10 10:26:25 1999 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steve Kado) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 05:26:25 -0500 Subject: Sinister: mairzy doats Message-ID: <38294851.2F0E888F@utoronto.ca> Elizabeth Daplyn wrote: > I had a lecture from Scanner the other day. He's a weird little bald pixie-man the thing about mr. rimbaud (which seems to be true of so many musicians) is that he's only good half the time. its like every now and again he gets it right and then freaks out and has to do something shitty. he's let me down so much. he's also the phantom member in combustible edison. really, he gets around. and why was he giving you a lecture? were you disposing of household waste in a public reseptacle? were you riding your bike on the sidewalk or shoplifting candy bars? all three at once? > And now to the main question of the day: to be or not to be a sheep or a goat? > Goats have scary yellow slitty eyes, which is an advantage in my view, although > if I had scary yellow slitty eyes I wouldn't be able to pull the *big-brown-eyed > helpless girlie stare* look off any more. Dammit. However, sheep are quite as someone who is both yellow and as a result has slitty eyes i have to say that i can still open my eyes in the cute cartoon sort of way. also, just to clear some misconceptions about yellow, slitty eyes up, we oriental types don't see the world with these black bands on the tops and bottoms of our eyes like widescreen movies as some might believe. just so you know. i also know kung fu and know my way around a wok, so watch out! i also personally manufacture all your personal electronics. stevk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From margarita at xxx.com Wed Nov 10 23:52:17 1999 From: margarita at xxx.com (triumphant loser) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:52:17 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Johnny marr is dead Message-ID: <002301bf2bd6$9f4a36e0$258ffacf@oemcomputer> I am so sorry to bring this up, i can imagine it is a very touchy subject for some of you. I finaly decided to be a good sport and give electronic a listen.......before this point i had been hesitant because i did not wish to dirty my memory of johnny. I give him all the credit that is due him for his part of the smiths legacy. I must say though he has gone to the dogs, i mean eaten alive and deposited in the sewer. I the verdict is out and electronic is nothing special. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Thu Nov 11 04:42:27 1999 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:42:27 PST Subject: Sinister: Ix-Nay on the Ew-Llay Message-ID: <19991111044228.50835.qmail@hotmail.com> After years of wondering whether or not North Dakota actually exists, I discovered the answer on Monday evening. Yes. I, Laura Llew, have been to all 48 of the states in the Continental US - including the elusive Dakotas. I didn't announce that I was journeying to the North beforehand because I didn't want to alert any governmental officials that someone was on to their little conspiracy of North Dakota not actually existing. (That and the fact that no one visits the Dakotas on a whim anytime but especially not in the middle of November. And my doing so will only cement the theory that many have that I'm a Phreak.) Anyway, I went and it was very.. mmm.. flat. I didn't see any people that at all. Then again, I didn't dare venture to any of the thriving metropolises there.. like Fargo. South Dakota did have the most beautiful sunset I have ever seen. It can boast that much. Overall, it was a wondrous trip indeed. I'm quite enjoying the idea of being a vagabond (notice I didn't use the word tramp. hehe). I think it suits my personality (or lack thereof) for the most part... Of course, I come back to find that my Beloved Blake Hamilton has finally carried through with his threats and unsubbed from the list. Thus, breaking what little heart I had. I really did try to persuade him not to do it but I'm afraid my powers of persuasion aren't what they used to be. People used to listen to me! Sure, I had a gun in my hand and was giving simple directions like telling them to put smaller unmarked bills into the paper bag. The point is that they listened! Well, I guess that once again I am abandoned into being the only list member in the Carolinas. *Sniff sniff* I tell you, Carolina boys cannot be trusted... Speaking of list members who dwell nearby. The SINISTER US/CANADA DIRECTORY (that was in true George Dickie style) is coming along quite nicely. Yes, you might have noticed the added Canada. After quite an exhaustingly lengthy discussion and debate with Bradley about whether to add Canada or not, we decided to. (The highlights. Me:"Do you want to add Canada in our directory?" Brad: "Uh, yeah sure." Thought provoking to be sure.) Being the generous kind hearted lass that I am, I also decided that I would also include any of those list members who are dwelling in Antarctica in our Directory. I know, I know - it will require a lot more work and dedication but I think I owe it to all those penguins who like to groove to the musical delights of belle and sebastian. Anything I can do to appease the animal population, we all saw what happened when the squirrels got disgruntled. And they don't even have access to large quantities of ice. *shivers* Imagine the possibilities (but only if you sleep with a night light). But, I digress. My point is that anyone in the United States or Canada or Antarctica can send the following information to InCorduroy at yahoo.com to get added in the List Directory. Just include your Name: E-Mail Address: Age: Location (City and State/Province): Where you're originally from (if relevant): Occupation/School (if desired): Interests (again this is optional): All of this information will be compiled into a nice little list which will be posted on the world wide web (world wide includes Antarctica too, ya know) - courtesy of Bradley. I'll let you know as soon as we get that up. I would like to thank everyone who has participated so far (about 40) and appreciate y'all taking the time to do so. Well, I have spent the majority of the day on the road and my thinking skills have been numbed considerably. Please forgive this haphazard post. It isn't quite up to par. Then again, neither am I. The day isn't the only thing far spent... Laura 'meeting all of your Laura Llew needs since 1977' ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Thu Nov 11 04:52:43 1999 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:52:43 EST Subject: Sinister: The Lilac Time Message-ID: <0.ef362494.255ba59b@aol.com> Their new CD is really good. Gave it its first listen at the store today and my co-worker and I were quite impressed. Anyone heard this record yet? Pete G. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Catspaw1 at xxx.com Thu Nov 11 05:00:46 1999 From: Catspaw1 at xxx.com (Catspaw1 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:00:46 EST Subject: Sinister: The Lilac Time Message-ID: <0.20199ad6.255ba77e@aol.com> In a message dated 11/10/99 10:55:21 PM Central Standard Time, OLDSCHREC at aol.com writes: << Their new CD is really good. Gave it its first listen at the store today and my co-worker and I were quite impressed. Anyone heard this record yet? >> I recommended this disc right here on this list a few weeks back... Should be popular with B&S boys and girls.... Speaking of B&S(!), I'm trying to describe their sound to those who have yet to be exposed to the band...having some trouble..."delicate melodies"? Sounds so weak-kneed.... B Clay +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From francis69soul at xxx.com Thu Nov 11 06:27:27 1999 From: francis69soul at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?kevin=20parker?=) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:27:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Makeup/london show/B&S soundtrack happiness. Message-ID: <19991111062727.4430.rocketmail@web1302.mail.yahoo.com> This is not going to be Mawkish OK!!!!Make up bit at the end!! This is my second post, i am quite lazy although I read all your stuff. anyway I had this great B&S moment last week.You see I have a teenage sister with Downs syndrome and i have watched her grow up and i often wondered what her teenage years would be like you know boyfriends pop music fashion disasters that kind of thing, or would it be different for obvious reasons well i have been out here in Tokyo for the best part of a year now and i really miss her aespecially as teenagers grow up so fast etc etc. Anyway i gave her a call and she told me she had "Big News" and she told me all about her first boyfriend who is a Downs boy called Jamie and how happy she was well her vocabulary is a little limited so my mother helped her out. Anyway I have always wanted her to have as normal, whatever the fuck that is, life as possible and so i had this double realisation that she may go through all the things that make the rest of us who we are and that she is growing up etc. Anyway so all this was pretty moving and i was on the train going back to my apartment with rather moist eyes because i was so happy for her, but also I was a little bit upset because I am no longer the most important male in her life, which is a good thing but a little difficult to deal with at first, and i put my walkman on and i had forgotten what i was listening to before and it was " TIGERMILK" well to be specific " I Dont love anyone " and there was that line about " except maybe my sister...maybe my baby brother too" and I thought what a self involved twat I am sometimes thinking about the mess I make of relationships and that love doesnt exist its a "finely tuned jealousy" or whatever, sometimes a little naivity really does help put things in perspective. Well sorry Richey or Nicky whichever of you wrote that, but the tone of my sisters voice convinced me that its out there even if it keeps passing you by. Is this making any kind of sense???? Anyway so B&S soundtracked one of my lifes great moments of realisation, sorry i cant be more prosaic about it. I am going to be in the UK for the first time in a while over the next two weeks actually from nov18 to dec4 so I was excited to see marine research and make up playing at ULU, or whatever its called now. If anyone is going and wants to meet up please email me off site I hate going to gigs on my own!! Kevin. "what a junction a mans thought is" Charles Dickens. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordi-tv at xxx.com Thu Nov 11 07:18:31 1999 From: jordi-tv at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano i Vilar) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:18:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Baxendale are Bis following a diet Message-ID: <19991111101831.HM.00000000001p4ge@mixmail.com> (I hope that is the right expression, as you know, my englizz iz ztilll rilli cdap) Yes, I liked Baxendale. I also went to see them play here, along with the likes of Hefner. The best bits were Jack Hayter�s shirt (some kind of tropical model, even though it�s beggining to be cold round here), and this singer of Baxendale making soap bubbles at the end of the Hefner set, which gave me some more memories of the Bowlie, with Ailsa, Mark and co. doing the same at the B&S set. The latest issue of "Segundos de luz" (my B&S dedicated zine written in spanish) is out, and I�m proud of it. Specially of the translation of "The story of Sebastian" (Laura Molloy�s comic), which looks really nice.I only want to know if Isobel or anyone at Jeepster would have anything against me translating Isobel�s "modern homes" for the next issue, which is due to be out at spring, maybe in march. Final question: is there anybody who can tells me anything about Camera Obscura future releases ? some months after the Bowlie I still have "Your sound" playing a lot in the living room. Final final question: is there anyone who can agree with me that "Funny games" is much more terrifying than "The blair witch" ? (even though this last one is good. Adeu, nens i nenes ================================================== Jordiet ================================================== Tu E-Mail Gratis en http://www.mixmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Thu Nov 11 13:34:59 1999 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:34:59 GMT Subject: Sinister: dirty dream #1 Message-ID: <19991111133500.82065.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi everyone a couple of nights ago I had a very disturbing dream. i dreamt that I had got hold of the new B+S single on promo. The thing was that the main track was an S Club 7 (cheesy manufactured boy/girl band) remix of Paper Boat. even worse was the fact that I thought it was really good and started dancing to it. I woke up quite relieved that it was just a dream not least becuase my dancing moves were quite shocking. The leaves are falling heavily now which means it's time to do up my duffle coat and listen to The Boy Done Wrong Again to protect me from the encroaching winter. On that point, do Belle and Sebastian sound better when it is miserable outside or does the summer sun illuminate their work to a greater degree? It's been troubling me for a few days- mainly because I should be getting on with my dissertation and job applications Paul It's a question of semantics. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From redden at xxx.com Thu Nov 11 13:49:07 1999 From: redden at xxx.com (danielle redden) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:49:07 -0500 Subject: Sinister: The Lilac Time Message-ID: B Clay wrote: >Speaking of B&S(!), I'm trying to describe >their sound to those who have yet >to be exposed to the band...having some >trouble..."delicate melodies"? >Sounds so weak-kneed.... How I describe b&s to the unexposed: 1. songs by wimpy scottish kids 2. songs that make you cry on public transport (i.e. buses, trains, subways, trolleys) 3. songs i sing to my cat when we are in the bath together 4. songs that make me feel like a pretty girl 5. songs that make me weak in the knees love danielle Whaat!!! Have you tried The Doghouse??! Get your FREE WEB-BASED EMAIL account at: http://doghousemail.lycos.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Thu Nov 11 14:54:30 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:54:30 EST Subject: Sinister: stereolab Message-ID: <0.d0f685b7.255c32a6@aol.com> In a message dated 11/10/99 5:39:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, steven.kado at utoronto.ca writes: << i also personally manufacture all your personal electronics. >> Steve, i know you must be busy, but something's wrong with my stereo, and i'd like you to take a look at it. <> actually, your dream appears to be prophetic. I was searching the web this morning and on the Belle and Sebastian website, in the band diary portion, Stu D wrote << working on the new album with a new producer. wee karn says he's of the devil, but i find him strangly fascinating. The character "Reverand Humphrey" in Nalda Said is based on him. He's familar with dance records and all that sort of thing, and he assures us that this record will be just the thing we've been needing to get into the pop charts. wee karn said that perhaps our fans wouldn't like a pop dance records, but then isobel threatened to scratch out her eyes if she interfered, so she went home and laid down with a wet washcloth over her eyes. I tried to stay in the background>>> I found this very disturbing. can anyone shed some light on the matter?** Is anyone going to see stereolab tonight at the ritz in raleigh? I'll be in the study at stow shirt... **ok, ok, it's a complete fabrication. dave (the lunar mensch) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnw at xxx.net Thu Nov 11 14:54:52 1999 From: johnw at xxx.net (John Washabaugh) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:54:52 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Out of the nursery Message-ID: <382AD8BB.4039266E@cvzoom.net> hello everyone, this is my first post to this list. so you will probably want a little background about me. i am nineteen from the beautiful mountains of pennsylvania. i first discovered belle and sebastian about a year ago and fell in love. i was at college at the time, in my first year. i was having the away from home blues (in all actuality i had been unhappy for a while but that is a different story) and was pretty upset that i had no one. then one of my friends at school told me about belle and sebastian and it really changed my perspective on life. i had, for the longest time, been a cold, lonely, isolated (not to mention bitter and cynical) person. and basically b&s showed me that not all was wrong with the world. it made changes to me somehow. and i will forever be thankful to b&s for changing my life. john +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Thu Nov 11 15:23:46 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:23:46 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Mmmm yeah Message-ID: Hello sheepies, Graham sent me this from the nursery - thought you might like to know. You remember when Stuart was recording this a month or so ago in Glasgow with Bill Wells? Well anyway, it's surfaced - someone who saw it tell us what it was like and if he had a little goatie beard. Also - Linda tells me that she was speaking to someone reading "Nalda Said" on a train to Glasgow this morning (yes! really) who reports that Stuart David is doing his thang at the Cafe Royal in Edinburgh TONIGHT. I can't verify any of this, nor if the aforementioned hippy's going too, so if anyone's going, pack sandwiches and don't blame me if you don't ring them first to verify. People on trains can be nice, but they sometimes dream too much. Oh and the new list rule is that anyone who mentions a part of their body in a list message (e.g. "with thighs like mine I could play for Brazil", "everyone was looking at my breasts, it was awful" etc.) aren't allowed to do it until they've sent a picture of said piece of flesh to the photo gallery. Damon Seils will be responsible for enforcing this policy. Honey xx ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Graham Hi Your computer threw back the message I sent, must be because I've only been on the list for ten days. I think it might be of interest, as it is genuine > So you're sitting flicking through an endless stream of Sky Digital > channels, all crap. By chance you tune in to BBC Choice who for one hour a > night seem to be taken over by Scottish performers. The programme is The > Beat Room featuring a discussion on 20th century songwriters like Gershwin, > Porter and Carmichael. Cut to a frail looking figure who starts to sing > Bewitched Bothered & Bewildered ( including elaborate intro verse) > accompanied by a piano player. Who? Yes it was Mr Murdoch and he was > stunning, I almsot spilt my cocoa. Later he did Hoagy's Skylark. Wow. At > last digital TV wins. All I want to know now is how many times I might have > missed him on previous shows. > > Graham > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sadandsentimental at xxx.com Thu Nov 11 16:21:42 1999 From: sadandsentimental at xxx.com (Curtis Heath) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 10:21:42 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Cool Baby Message-ID: this is a true story One evening, when I was just an infant, we welcomed an interesting guest into our house. You see, my parents were once "scenesters" and would've been "rockstars" if it weren't for the drugs. This particular night, My father was forced into the forest by one of his ex-hippy friends who had concocted what seemed to be a brilliant plan to catch loads of trout by the moonlight. My mother stayed in town to catch Iggy and the Stooges with her girlfriend... And CATCH him they did. Iggy came home with my mom after the show to do whatever rockstars do. "Cool bungalow," Iggy said as he entered my house. "Where's your old man?" "Trout fishing." my mom said. "Cool," said Iggy. She took him to my crib where I had been sleeping. "Cool baby," he said. Can you believe that? Iggy Pop said I was a Cool Baby! Anyway... After doing whatever rockstars do, Iggy went through all my dad's thousands of records and selected just three. He put them in his bag and left. A few hours later, my dad came home from his fishing trip to find my mother in her usual post-concert condition. Upon hearing her story, my father exploded! He was filled with jealous anger. He grabbed his hippy friend and cried, "Why!? Why!? Why did you think fishing by moonlight would make us catch more fish? We could've met Iggy fucking Pop! The fish don't care what fucking time it is!" My dad ran over to his record collection and started sorting them in a frustrated manner. He sat there 'til sunrise... 'til he found what he had been looking for. Three albums were missing. Many years earlier, my grandfather gave my father three of his favorite old Big Band records to listen to, and my father had never returned them. Dad's record collection was, and still is very impressive. He simply has EVERYTHING. And all Iggy Pop wanted were my grandfather's BigBand records. Hmmm.... So that's my legacy... Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://my.lycos.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david.r.simpson at xxx.uk Thu Nov 11 16:57:09 1999 From: david.r.simpson at xxx.uk (Dave Simpspoon) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:57:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Sleazy Salakites Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19991111165709.0091b2b0@pop-hub.strath.ac.uk> Hellooo Having lurked on and off for just over a year now, I feel compelled to SING OUT in praise to the mighty Sinister and its many farmyard animiles. I am Dave, I live in Glasgow, I am a student, I am a stereotype. Last night, I went to see Salako and was a bit disappointed. I don't know- I really, really want to like them but everything I've heard by them, inc. stuff at the gig, I just don't enjoy. (w/ the definite exception of 'go on then!...'). Sorry. They were damnably tight and accomplished but I think I am too impatient for their meandering tunes. Support was OK. Fonda 500 were v. lo-fi by numbers w/ Casio keys and songs about monkeys. Late Night Foreign Radio made some booful music, though, I thought (tho' the faster stuff was quite untight). Luckily, I only live across the road, so I stayed 'til the end w/out much fear of being mugged or battered by taxi drivers. Hoorah! Sorry if I have been -ve. Dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 9852611 at xxx.ie Thu Nov 11 18:20:51 1999 From: 9852611 at xxx.ie (KIRWAN LOUISE) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 18:20:51 -0000 Subject: Sinister: in and out in dublin and limerick Message-ID: <2314694F6D6FD311841C009027AA4A081577FD@cronus.ul.ie> i'm gonna die - i'm so bored. i'm stuck here until 7.30 when, joy of joys, i get to take pictures of a sinn fein debate ( there isn't a way i can type that to show just how much contempt i feel at this moment for that). blah. there's a million and one things i could be doing right now. eating for example. i have no money to buy food on me right now though. the only thing i can afford is the free water in the student bar and going in there on my own right now, would only tip me ever so slightly more towards total blahdom. but god, i'm hungry! hmmm...the only positive thing about right now is that i'm listening to burt bacharach and Elvis Costello's"i'll never fall in love" really loudly. actually i'm going to turn it down now, cos it's hurting my ears. ow. actually, today wasn't all bad. i got a free lollipop which is always nice and a lecture was cancelled, which is also always nice. oh - i was told today that there might be a chance that i'll be going to take photos of the chemical brothers next saturday when they play in Dublin. that should be good, i've always liked them and i'll get my expenses paid for the whole thing. i was going to go anyway but i never got round to buying the tickets. so plus one point for me! wow - two mails in two days! they really must be putting something in the water down here. another thing - i've been wearing B'nS t-shirts and badges around college for two years now and in all that time not one person has ever said anything. i've decided that if i ever see anyone with anything vaguely B'nS related, i'm going to march right over to them and introduce myself. forward i know, but the likelyhood of this ever happening are non-existent,so really i've nothing to worry about. now, i've got Nina Simone on my computer. yay. i'm sorry about this mail - it's so downbeat. oh well, thanks for reading down this far and to hell with you too if you didn't louise +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nelle at xxx.se Thu Nov 11 20:28:36 1999 From: nelle at xxx.se (Ellen =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jernstr=F6m?=) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:28:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: worries Message-ID: <382B26EE.8A8DC85D@hem.passagen.se> here we go again. i could be bored but i'm not. too busy worrying. over this and that, anything and everything. it isn't really like me to worry, but - i'm nineteen, live in stockholm which actually is quite a nice place to live in. i've got two great jobs that pay very well and i'm gifted with a fantastic taste in music. also, i'm rather short, looking kind of troll-ish..and i've got this irish friend in london who thinks i'm gorgeous, and i think he's gorgeous too. it's just too good to be true. yes. i'm leaving for london in less than a week and i still havn't heard from my friend and what if he's fallen off his motorbike or been kicked to death by a gang in a dark alley somwhere, or..well. what if he's just not considering me gorgeous anymore? then what am i supposed to do? i'll probably never hear from him again, and i'll end up in london with nowhere to stay, noone to cuddle. yesterday they were playing "the state i'm in" in h&m. h&m is the most mainstream clothing store you can find here..now i don't know if i'm supposed to be worried or happy. my favourite b&s song at the moment should be "is it wicked." not so much because of the song, as of the solo in the middle of it. beautiful. always makes me feel like jumping up and dowm. it is november. dark and grey. i'm dreaming about may, about june. about walking up and down the paralia in naxos town, about diving from the rocks at mikri viglia. ever been there? it's paradise on earth, i tell you. that's it. thanks for listening. i'd love it if you'd send me how-to-live-my-life-advice..or perhaps suggestions of great music in times of confusion. or invitations to stay in london? ; ) *rum-tum-tiddle-um-tum* ( as in winnie the pooh, yes..an absolute favourite of mine) /ellen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebeckas at xxx.com Thu Nov 11 21:29:26 1999 From: rebeckas at xxx.com (Rebecka popgirl) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:29:26 PST Subject: Sinister: fucking autumn and what comes with it Message-ID: <19991111212926.694.qmail@hotmail.com> hey I am really wondering this, why do autumn always seem to be the season of bad news?..geeh I hate the dull season does it makes u feel better when your boyfriend calls u and says he'd rather be your exboyfriend than boyfriend. *fukc*.. efter 6 months he realizes of think we are not that alike..hmm well theres not much to do about it than to cry and well go to sleap with an aching head and then try to realize that there is more nice chaps and that this is not always what is supposed to happen to me,though it seems like it is bound to sometimes.. maybe I want to many hugs from people and they cannot give them to me...hmm maybe I just want to be loved and to love someone back.. hugs becky oki give us a hug then pleeeezeeee # go and have a peek at my page it's constantly developing, http://www.angelfire.com/me/Mizzy # ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Thu Nov 11 21:39:05 1999 From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:39:05 PST Subject: Sinister: Drizzling night Message-ID: <19991111213906.39205.qmail@hotmail.com> It's been a while... I don't know,but I just didn't want to write.I felt a bit numb after that incident with the list and I felt intimidated and scared.I thought it would be wrong if I wrote,so... Anyway.It's been a long,nice week.I went to Manchester and silly me I did not think of saying anything on the list-as if you'd care... Today I got my bus B&S t-shirt and the Sinister t-shirt and 3 badges.That made me happy. I'm going to see Nick Cave on Sunday 21/11 in Warwick.Anyone going there? Ellen said about Naxos.Beautiful island.Went there summer 99 for the first time and had a fabulous week.Ellen if you ever go back to Greece go to this island called Folegandros.It's pure magic this place. While in Manchester I found this cd that was a recording of the B&S Bowlie performance and anotherone from a Paris gig.If I find these again should I buy them or not people? Until this summer one of my biggest dreams was to see R.E.M. live.This happened.Best gig ever.Now it is the turn of Belle & Sebastian.I hope this is going to happen someday. I cried a lot today 'cause I got a letter from my mom.I've missed her.It's hard being in another country but I got used to it and going to Manchester made me realise that I actually consider little dark rainy Dudley as home... Well,that's it.Library is closing down so I have to go. Curry on... Zoe "Lay down your arms,and surrender to me..." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tylee2 at xxx.com Thu Nov 11 23:01:53 1999 From: tylee2 at xxx.com (tylee2 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 18:01:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: butter Message-ID: <199911112306.PAA13424@mail4.hushmail.com> Someone mentioned seeing Olivia Tremor Control....mmmmm......me too!! They were fantastic. I hadn't been to a show in ages, and it's the best when they absolutely blow your socks off. (i've twisted sayings there somehow, now haven't I?) Mmmmmm. Yesterday I trod on a dandielion. Seemed odd to me, cause I haven't seen one in ages. It was all flattened out, perfectly, like a little kid had picked it earlier in the year and stuck it between two pages of a school book for safe keeping. And then **FLASHBACK** I couldn't help seeing myself at eight, when we used to pick dandielions and shove them under friends' chins and if they glowed yellow we'd shriek with laughter and shout "YOU LIKE BUTTER!!" like that was a bad thing...or was this just something from my rather secluded childhood? It doesn't matter. I've forgotten half my life anyways it seems. Maybe that's one reason I like belle and sebastian soo much. Sometimes they bring back little pieces of it. Like riding around town on my bike, going up and going down....argh...well, that's what the dandielion did for me. Wooo! Hefner are coming here soon! They make me feel 18 again. I mustn't like being where I am now, as I love to feel eight or eighteen all the time. Well la-dee-da. I'm off to make mud-pies! luv ty x Get HushMail. The world's first free, fully encrypted, web-based email system. Speak freely with HushMail.... http://www.hushmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Thu Nov 11 23:38:35 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:38:35 PST Subject: Sinister: Stuart,stuart the serving wench. Message-ID: <19991111233836.21658.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello hello mes chums! JenOwl wrote: >Does anyone else feel slightly disturbed by the idea of struan in a pixie >outfit. I definately think that mick cooke should dress up as a pixie for >next halloween though, because he has a pixie face. Splutter! It cant be just the FACE,it has to be the whole personality..the whole aura,the whole JIVE that is given off.Mick has considerable assets,true,very true,but does not give off the mischief elf-king glee.Struan is just a little,slender thing that I can picture dancing around and clicking his heels and throwing pixie dust on people and hanging from trees and releasing flocks of squirrels as his military defense and posing riddles to Wandering Forest Girls who have to make it across the bridge to get to the castle.He's got the jive! Certain people belong in certain uniforms. I see Mick Cooke in a military uniform of some sort.Uh oh..Mick reads the list now doesn't he so we better just stop it RIGHT THERE. I see Stuart David in a big,lovely,rounded pumpkin suit. Don't you love big,rounded,roly poly things? I think of lying in the autumn fields,the leaves falling all around and dipping my arms into this orange,heavenly Pumpkin-Man.Then the Pumpkin-Man turns to you and whispers 'My little cherub' *sigh* Presents for Popstars:I could make Struan 7 pairs of widdle-widdle y-fronts for every day of the week.In daylight,it would have 'No.' written all over them,but at nightime,they would glow in the dark and have 'Yes!' written all over them.With glo-in-the-dark squirrels also. Goats...sheeps? What are we talking about... Oh Honey Honey..I fear for you,my delicate one...are you sure about this extreme close up of body parts? There are some weirdos out there you know.Fair maiden...your innocent nature could be tainted forever. "who reports that Stuart David is doing his thang at the Cafe Royal in Edinburgh TONIGHT." And I go "Gasp!" He does his thang so well,doesn't he. you're my hero, love...genevieve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 12 01:07:02 1999 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 01:07:02 BST Subject: Sinister: the twee shall inherit the earth Message-ID: <1D3896F58B2@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> hey kids, you wouldn't believe how many lost souls are queing up for computer use at twenty to one in the morning, somehow i find that comforting. yesterday i nearly tripped over my flares getting off the bus. the price we pay for trying to look the way we feel, eh? today the same thing happened again. i just never learn. there really does seem to be a link between b+s and the autumn, everyone seems to be feeling it. if i remember rightly (and its not necessarily likely that i do) it was in the autumn that i first got into b+s in a big way. i had previously heard the sessions on mark+lard and stuff, but my friend gave me a tape of iyfs and llpj, and ever since, the sight of falling leaves around this time of year has made me fell warm inside. sigh (but in a good reminiscent way rather than an upset way) a word of advice to all of you out there who are still in possesion of the tonsils you were born with; if you get tonsilitis, do not under any circumstances smoke. it may look hard and sophisticated (don't even bother arguing with me, it makes me feel like an old time movie star and thats all there is to it) but, before my throat just ached a bit and now it feels like i've been trying to swallow razorblades, but without any of the messiness. my contribution for potential album title, 'case sensitive' all written in little letters, to reflect the way we have embraced this wonderful technology, not that any of us are at all inept in matters of computer use!?! although now i think about it, that sounds a bit more looperish. hmmm... i'll give it some more thought. JAM update - no, not really and another thing, i'm afraid i can't claim to be a paid up member of the GEORGE DICKIE fan-club, he terrifies the life out of me, i've always been wary of loud people, i'm never sure how much they've actually got to say. (marvel at the way i insult millions of people in one easy step, but nothing personal to anyone) ok kids my bed is beckoning, which is quite an impressive feat, seeing as it doesn't have any hands, so i must leave you now my darlings, stay beautiful, fiona... ... flirting with mediocrity +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From margarita at xxx.com Fri Nov 12 01:44:59 1999 From: margarita at xxx.com (triumphant loser) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 19:44:59 -0600 Subject: Sinister: please help Message-ID: <001101bf2caf$88316260$ad8ffacf@oemcomputer> Hello fellow sinister upstarts, i beg a favor of anyone who may be able to help me. I play guitar as a hobbie but i have the damndest time finding accurate tabliture for belle and sabastian tunes.I beg please help me if you can. thank you +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From margarita at xxx.com Fri Nov 12 03:15:34 1999 From: margarita at xxx.com (triumphant loser) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:15:34 -0600 Subject: Sinister: thanks Message-ID: <001901bf2cbc$2f80b0a0$704afacf@oemcomputer> Thanks for the tip, however i have checked it out already. I was hoping for a more complete tab....ie notes tabed out with solos +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grey7 at xxx.net Fri Nov 12 03:43:36 1999 From: grey7 at xxx.net (James Gilmer) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:43:36 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Gothic?... Gothic?, really now. Message-ID: <011901bf2cc0$1b033040$e8d033cf@default> So while trying to look up tabulature on the UBL website I ran a search on B&S. The odd thing was the genre it was listed under. That genre being my subject line, said subject line being Gothic. Now, no offense meant to any good little gothic boys or girls who may be on the list but how pray tell does one classify B&S as *gothic*? It reminds me of when a few of my friends and I were enjoying an evening out and I slid a tape into the car's deck. Ignoring the cry of; "So Jim, is this going to be another angry chick band?" from the backseat I turned up the volume on Tigermilk. Three or four songs later that damned voice from the back calls out; "So Jim, it seems we're going for depressed, whiney guy bands now?". This from someone whose idea of party music is Leonard Cohen and a Roger Waters *theme* album about the end of the world, christ! Screw you too Josh!:-) Seriously, is it me? Do I just not understand these things? Firstly, I don't find B&S all that depressing, let alone gothic. It is a bit difficult to pin a label on B&S (and that my brothers and sisters in the sinister order, is a very good thing) but really now, gothic is a bit much don't you think? Alternative folk-pop maybe? Damn, it is rather difficult. Though I do think they should make a special category for B&S and use danielle's title; "songs by wimpy scottish kids" Now that is a genre label I can get behind. Be Sinister dear ones!!! ...and to all those sinister kids with broken hearts and clouds over their heads, tomorrow's a new day and the world isn't half as dim and cold as it seems. Cheers!!-Jim "Bruce Lee didn't need a gun"- Grant Morrison, "Invisibles" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From zutroy at xxx.org Fri Nov 12 04:07:02 1999 From: zutroy at xxx.org (kerry) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:07:02 -0500 Subject: Sinister: belle and sebastian? gothic? Message-ID: i feel like a dork posting this to the list, but i'm a dumbass and erased the message about belle and sebastian being listed as gothic on the UBL, and since the post hadn't hit the archives yet when i discovered this person's error, and figured that others of you may also want to read this, here it is. i checked the UBL about that whole gothic listing thing. i think what the person who noted this failed to recognize was that there's two belle and sebastian listings. more concretely, there's a listing for "belle and sebastian" and another for "Belle & Sebastian." the listing for belle and sebastian is indeed listed as gothic, and they are signed to 4AD and have no websites. however, for Belle & Sebastian, they are categorized as folk, and some the loverly webpages for our beloved B&S are listed there. so, basically, there's more than one belle and sebastian in the world, and one of them is gothic. makes me want to order some of this strange gothic belle and sebastian's albums. it also makes me wonder why there hasn't been any legal nonsense about it, especially since they're signed to a "real" label, not just making CDs in their garage or something. okay, so i suppose they could be making CDs in their garage. still, it's weird. -kerry +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlearsonist at xxx.com Fri Nov 12 04:39:07 1999 From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:39:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: and we all get in the bath... Message-ID: <19991112043907.22524.rocketmail@web106.yahoomail.com> good evening, ovejas. er, sheep. for some reason "oveja" used to be our favorite word in spanish. also, we sang some song in choir that had the line "oh we, like sheep, have gone astray..." but when sung, there was no pause between "we" and "like," and there Was a pause after "sheep," so it sounded like we sang "oh we like sheep" and were done with it. oh dear. so i always have the dirtiest thoughts about that line about the bath in "string bean jean." jo is a girl, but is phil' a boy or a girl named phillis? hmmm... either way, stuart in a bathtub with 2 other people... not only would they Not fit comfortably (and i don't care How cute and pixie-like he is), which means they'd be quite on top of each other, but clearly they'd not be dressed, unless they're Really saving on leccy bills by washing their clothes while taking a bath. whenever people dismiss b&s as cute and simple and even cheesy, i point out choice lyrics like this one. but speaking of washing, and i sort of was, i had a case of "b&s in an unusual place" (get yr minds out the gutter, kids) the other day... i took my car to get it washed, which is a rare luxury, but since i'd already gotten the oil changed and filled it with gas, i figured, eh, okay, i'll blow $7 on a wash. i was alone and IYFS was in the tape deck, and i got to ride through the automatic carwash while "me and the major" played. as the soap swirled on my windows, stuart sang "the snow is falling falling falling falling....." i kept giggling and looking around to make sure no one caught me, but then i'd remember i was all alone and No One could see me... so i laughed right out loud. speaking of carwashes, have you ever made out in one? it's good fun... my favorite b&s moment depends on whether or not i've got the lyrics right on "expectations," because during the last chorus or whatever, it sounds like he sings "now you're cool and you know" right before "you're a star ... etc etc." if that's true, than that's my favorite. if not, then it's the word "lovers" in "get me away from here i'm dying." it's that rhotic "r"... gets me every time. i can never get through all of george dickie's posts because i cower under the sheer force of them and end up deleting. i'm with lauren on romance. "i want all that stupid old shit, like letters and sodas" (-liz phair). i want to be taken Out, damnit. don't knock this gothic b&s stuff. i've got three words for y'all: struan in fishnets. that'll be all. xoxo, marie ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ "to me she was just marie." -mersault. "i hasten to tell you what little i presume to know about his flights, his heat, his incredible heart." -b. glass __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dougal at xxx.uk Fri Nov 12 04:40:54 1999 From: dougal at xxx.uk (Scruffy P) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 04:40:54 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: hello... I'm new... In-Reply-To: <199910200823.EAA00384@smtp2.erols.com> Message-ID: Hello I've recently been let out of the nursery... well actually its been over two weeks, but its taken me this long to build up the courage (and re-write this mail five times) to finally send one. I know one of the things about the internet is that you don't know where people are... but i don't like that, so I'll tell you straight off that i'm in manchester... I've been told there are a lot of mancs on this list (I'm not even a real manc... I'm just a student, tee he he)... but I think they all live in the same house as me... (well one does...) My favourite syntax is "..." or brackets My favourite sinister band is Looper. But B&S are ok too ;-) Do I have to start every subject with "sinister"? Or does that happen by computer magic? Bonus. Louis -- "I'm a big brave dog" -Chucky 0161 256 0712 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bertrand.Caron at xxx.se Fri Nov 12 09:21:54 1999 From: Bertrand.Caron at xxx.se (Bertrand Caron) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:21:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: winter in Stockholm References: <382B26EE.8A8DC85D@hem.passagen.se> Message-ID: <382BDC32.DA4EB744@uab.ericsson.se> Ellen Jernström wrote: > it is november. dark and grey. i'm dreaming about may, about > june. Everybody seems depressed by the coming of winter in here ... I wonder why I am always the only one to be excited by the coming of winter... I know, it will be my first winter in sweden so I am not sure of how it will be but I usually really enjoy cold and snow... Am I the only one in the word to love winter? Bertrand the Frenchman in Stockholm +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sleeka_sounds at xxx.com Fri Nov 12 09:50:03 1999 From: sleeka_sounds at xxx.com (Sleeka Sounds) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 01:50:03 PST Subject: Sinister: The Eighth is in my Body Message-ID: <19991112095003.26541.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello, I thought I'd 'touch base', Baby Melonballs pondered: >oh, yeah - I wondered - do people think of b&s as a >'stoner band' . Well, Murdoch gives me more of a semi stiffy, rather than an out an out total stoner. I suppose a real stoner band would be one with a right dirty woman in it, like Shania Twain (but she's not a band). How about the Dixie Chicks, they're a stoner band. http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~calnd/stuart/stuart.htm Coming to think of it, I haven't written for ages. Me and Julia went to Spain for a week, that was good. But we didn't bump into Mr. Miller. There was loads of gypsies though, and some monkeys. And, I have now seen the Braille Witch Project, and I thought it was really really fucking scary. I've seem some pictures of that Heather on the internet, she's really beautiful in real life, but she looked a bit rough in that. I reckon if it was me I would be too busy trying to drill her in the tent to bother about the witch. Anyway, I'll write a story when I get the chance, I hope you are all well and happy, and I'll maybe see some of you at the Meanies gig tomorrow. I'll be doing the towel dance. Cheers, Mistopher Chris ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ThisSuffering at xxx.com Fri Nov 12 12:14:30 1999 From: ThisSuffering at xxx.com (ThisSuffering at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 07:14:30 EST Subject: Sinister: the snow emerges.. Message-ID: <0.9d6c1523.255d5ea6@aol.com> dearest sinisterees. i cannot sleep, and thought i'd let you in on my belle and sebastian moment of the evening. (considering it's 4:15 am) i was wondering what all of you think of belle and sebastian touring the u.s. soon. i think that should see that we want to see them here in the states, because i'm sure there's a great following here that really wants to see them play a live gig in a town near them. so let's all let them know how much we love them cheers carlos xoxox +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tanjas at xxx.au Fri Nov 12 12:23:25 1999 From: tanjas at xxx.au (tanja stahlhut) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 23:23:25 +1100 Subject: Sinister: wedding song Message-ID: <382C06B2.27E9@easy.com.au> Hello Sinisterines straight out of the nursery and straight to the point. i'm getting married tomorrow. nervous as hell and can't wait for it all. it's a beautiful bittersweet feeling that won't let me sleep all this talk of depression and autumn ? it's spring here in australia, i'm living by the beach (and getting married there tomorrow, have i mentioned that already ?) a little question to ask a survey of sorts on our first wedding dance do you have any thoughts? we've thought long and hard and we both concur but is there really nought better than "tender" by blur? Michael +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skag_heaven at xxx.com Fri Nov 12 12:46:26 1999 From: skag_heaven at xxx.com (Tim Gardner) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:46:26 GMT Subject: Sinister: As the lorry marked 'Struan' pulled away from the lights... Message-ID: <19991112124627.43034.qmail@hotmail.com> Afternoon Sinisterines, danielle redden said: >in small steps something is trying to tell me if i should stay in the land >of the free >or sail to the old world where a twee boy loves me. Nick isn't very twee, not very twee at all. In fact I'd go so far as to say that he isn't twee at all*. I was called a twee goth last week. By a hippy. I can understand the twee bit but not the goth part. "Why am I a goth?" I queried, "Because you have a long black coat" was the reply. I tried to explain that I only wear my long black coat because it is warm and I was cold but it was to no avail. Perhaps my Cramps badge also affected judgement but it was right next to a Belle & Sebastian one so they should have cancelled each other out. Perhaps the Caberet Voltaire badge on my bag is doing something unexpected... I went to Glasgow for the very first time last weekend, we stayed in a flat that, apparently, is only a few doors down from Mick Cooke. It's also underneath a flat owned by the keyboard player from Del Amitri. We kept him awake by playing 'name that (obscure) tune' with our kind host. I got 'Mongoloid' by Devo and precious little else. Our kind host - Glasgow's premier pedantic person - offered to take us to a cafe on Sunday morning where "Belle & Sebastian sit and be twee" but we didn't have time. On Saturday night at The 13th Note Cafe I thought I saw one or two of the Sinisterites who'd been to All Tomorrow's Picnics but I was too busy to go and say hello. I picked up the latest issue of Papercuts last month courtesy of the ubiquitous Monsieur Trousers last month, a very good read it was too. Better than 'How To Tell If Your Missus Is Turning Into A Lezbo' in the Sunday Sport anyway. Tim * - Of course, I may have the wrong person. In which case sorry. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Nov 12 15:06:36 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:06:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Hans, Nils, Bumps-a-Daisy! Message-ID: <01bf2d1f$83891b20$LocalHost@itjfvkli> I've been thinking about what Bobby Dazzler from Hefner said: Well its true, people who know about lesser, more obscure bands are more 'in' it proves they love music more. I do it all the time and I know I'm right. To prove it I'm listening right now to the Extra-glens. Does the same thing apply to football? Do Keith supporters love football more than Borrusia Dortmund or Rosenberg fans? Do people who like obscure teams know more about football than people who follow relatively succesful clubs? If so, Exeter City supporter Tim Hopkins must be the most knowledgeable football fan on the list. Perhaps that's why he feels qualified to go round saying that "Gregory's Two Girls" is about Stan Collymore and Rusty Lee, the cheeky Jimmy Five Bellies lookalike bugger. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From redden at xxx.com Fri Nov 12 15:50:03 1999 From: redden at xxx.com (danielle redden) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:50:03 -0500 Subject: Sinister: tweetweetweetweetwee Message-ID: setting: green tea with antioxidants at 10:10am. corduroys magnetic fields 69 love songs vol.3 my cat is rummaging through the closet finding something nice to wear tim said this: >Nick isn't very twee, not very twee at all. yes yes tim is right. someone who screams bloody murder at innocent pigeons i guess isnt very twee. he cries a lot though. and he can be incrediby awkward in a beautiful way.....moving on.... marie said this: >speaking of carwashes, have you evermade out >in one? it's good fun... no, but the second most entertaining thing to do in a car wash is when those high-powered-blow-dryers come on roll down all the windows and next thing you know theres a tornado in your car! all the swirling warm air practically lifts you out of your seat. just make sure to buckle down your cat first... bertrand said this: >I wonder why I am always the only one to be >excited by the coming of winter... you're not the only one kid. the winter makes me feel everything so much deeper. scarves, mittens, hats, soup, blankets, seeing your breath.... michael said this: >on our first wedding dance do you have >any thoughts? i imagine "tender" by blur as a more anthem-y jump around and clap your hands kind of song then a wedding dane. my suggestion would be that nancy and lee song that i cant think of the name of right now. that one that goes "flowers growing on a hill..." and it has a kind of a waltz feel to it. of course there are also all those backstreet boys songs...but i guess it is a little too late now..... it's about time i face the day, and kitty has picked out a lovely blue and white knit number... love danielle Whaat!!! Have you tried The Doghouse??! Get your FREE WEB-BASED EMAIL account at: http://doghousemail.lycos.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Fri Nov 12 14:27:16 1999 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 06:27:16 -0800 Subject: Sinister: i make it convenient Message-ID: hi folks, (file under: hefner vs. napalm death) starry, i know you didn't like the whole quiet guitars thing on the first hefner album, but they've figured out how to switch them on since then, so you might like them more now. i wonder what napalm death would sound like with the guitars turned off. would "multinational corporation" have quite the same impact when played in a folky indiepop style? perhaps glampam (and those of you flying over especially from toronto) could fiddle with the fusebox at their upcoming gig and find out for us. (file under: goats vs. sheep) hmm, don't think i like the idea of being a sheep very much. besides, i had an intimate encounter with an excited goat once, so i think i owe them something. a mouthful of goat spittle at the very least. (file under: and vs. &) yes, there is a goth band called "belle and sebastian" who are much beloved by the duke, and there is also an indie type band called "belle & sebastian" who are much beloved by the duke. they are completely different bands in much the same way as iain banks and iain m banks are two different writers with similar names. you can tell because one group is made up of eight pale faced youths in black, and the other is made up of seven pale faced youths in cardigans and richard colburn. (file under: recording studio vs. garage) yes, they do make their cds in a garage, it's a bit like when the a-team get cornered by baddies in a workshop full of power tools and come bursting out in a diy tank with all guns blazing, only more twee. then, at the merest mention of an international tour isobel twitches her expansive jewellery and tells murdoch: "i ain't goin' on no plane, fool." bye, kevan *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vlass at xxx.com Fri Nov 12 16:32:11 1999 From: vlass at xxx.com (vlass at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:32:11 -0500 Subject: Sinister: new york city & somethings Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19991112163211.00a35ce8@mail.interlog.com> first of all, a fellow sinister type is lounging around in new york city for the next three weeks and is looking for belle and sebastianesque themed activities. if you know of anything or have any suggestions, send them all to mr. derek w at , okay? but, i now know that to send that message alone would have been BAD. in order to redeem myself, i will add belle and sebastian related tidbits. yay. i've realized that quite a few people know me as "the girl who likes belle and sebastian". like, when they would describe me, they would say "oh teri, she's the girl who likes *that* band" and then people would clue in to who i was. i sort of forgot about it until last night when someone started telling me again. not that it's a bad thing to be stereotyped as.. it's better being known for that than other worse possibilities, right? i too saw the fake belle and sebastian concert ad in the paper in toronto and laughed. good thing i knew that it wasn't for real, or else it would have been a slight dissapointment. ummm, yes. teri /// new/old: http://weatherpattern.tripod.com \\\ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From coool_air at xxx.com Fri Nov 12 17:18:53 1999 From: coool_air at xxx.com (Claire Timmins) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:18:53 PST Subject: Sinister: Mmmm yeah Message-ID: <19991112171853.40871.qmail@hotmail.com> aw, as much as noone will care about my taste in music, unless you happen to be in Air Organic, Glasgow on Sunday at 2pm, when you'll have to put up with it (hee hee sly plugging). I just want to say well done to Mr Murdoch on his choice of 'bewitched' to sing with the ace Mr Wells. A most beautiful song, with the superb line 'those ants that invaded my pants..fini' Also folks, the diary of a band entry that I read in the guardian paper is very different to the one sent here. Oh yes. The one I read is a indepth report about the way B&S decide what songs to play at their many underground gigs that we dont get told about. 'A NEW one' shouts Mick, 'bugger off, an oldie..the kids love that' says Stuart, etc etc. you get the picture? Except you wont as I kinda made it up, it is something similar to that tho. oh and lets applaud honeys masterful ways with the list and with oonix (the boss was impressed). If anyone happens to find any Lee Dorsey on vinyl, give it to me. yeah hometime, all my love, all my kissing you dont know what you've been-a-missin' g'night. Claire ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com Fri Nov 12 17:20:04 1999 From: Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com (Paul Rudolph) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:20:04 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Who really likes music more? Message-ID: <0056750011063315000002L552*@MHS> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From paul__22 at xxx.com Fri Nov 12 17:49:11 1999 From: paul__22 at xxx.com (paul cains) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:49:11 PST Subject: Sinister: Flaming Lips Ticket to give away Message-ID: <19991112174912.20336.qmail@hotmail.com> I have a spare flaming lips ticket for tonights gig in Bristol, if anyone would like it give Paul a call on 07901 852956 I will meet you outside of the Anson rooms, I won the ticket in a local newspaper competition and I already have one. bye paul. xxxx ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From csomeone at xxx.com Fri Nov 12 17:51:22 1999 From: csomeone at xxx.com (Cynthia Someone) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:51:22 PST Subject: Sinister: Who likes music more? Message-ID: <19991112175122.23492.qmail@hotmail.com> "At least up until 1980, the most popular bands were the most talented. " -mr miller something interesting to add to the discussion on obscure vs mainstream music: a friend of mine works in the film industry, showing films before they are released in the states and gathering audience reaction. then movies get re-edited to please the audience. apparently a lot of movies are better before they get through the process, and get butchered. hence the "director's cut" film versions so popular now. According to him, here is how they figure out what songs to place on American mainstream commercial radio. They test it like they do movies. People rate them from one to five, and, get this, they only place 3s and 4s on the radio. because the songs may not wow anybody, but you're not going to turn off the radio either. Music rated as a 5, I think, is considered to be not "general" enough; any song that one might rate as a five is obviously too appealing to only certain types of people, and radio stations want music that will attract broad numbers. freaky, huh? cyn ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mickcooke at xxx.com Fri Nov 12 18:10:32 1999 From: mickcooke at xxx.com (mickcooke at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 13:10:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Diary of a Band and Meanies gig Message-ID: <991112131032EC.12231@webb1.iname.net> To view the latest exciting installment of 'Diary of a Band'- this fortnight it's Stuart Murdoch's turn- go to the band website: http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home/ Also, a wee reminder for anyone in the Glasgow area, that the Amphetameanies are playing a Big Issue benefit at the Bedsit on Park Drive- off Woodlands Road- tomorrow (Saturday) night. Vanity Witchunt and Biffy Clyro (apparently Pixies-esque, but I've not actually heard them) are supporting. There's Trojan and 2 Tone ska in the bar all night, and northern soul til 2am after we play. Vic and Gill from the Scottish Evening Session are also doing DJ slots. Doors open at 9pm, we're on about 11.15pm. Tickets are 5 pounds on the door. Cheers, Mick +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Archel1978 at xxx.com Fri Nov 12 18:10:13 1999 From: Archel1978 at xxx.com (Archel1978 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 13:10:13 EST Subject: Sinister: everyone cares, everyone understands Message-ID: <0.b830bd41.255db205@aol.com> well, tomorrow is the fateful night when i have to face the Ex and discover whether my inner bitch will proudly kiss his ass, or whether my inner kitten will just curl up in a ball and whimper. seeing as there seems to be a rash of break ups on the list, i vote that we form a sinister revenge posse and take the safety in numbers route when encountering Those Who Have Done Us Wrong. sort of like charlie's angels, only with better haircuts. after all, who wouldn't be scared of a bunch of girls and boys in duffle coats and specs, all humming b&s tunes under their breath in an insidious (or just annoying) way? erm... i had a Sinister dream last night. i can't remember what it was about now, but lots of you were in it and we didn't have an orgy. which is rare in my sinister dreams, obviously. wish me luck, happy weekends. luv archel xxx ******* Rachel Playforth archel at iname.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david at xxx.uk Fri Nov 12 18:32:20 1999 From: david at xxx.uk (David Kitchen) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:32:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: snow patrol on MTV (US), belle and sebastian television debut (UK) and a jeepster night (SWEDEN). Message-ID: <382C5D34.C2C0C5AE@jeepster.co.uk> in this fine edition of the jeepster news mail out; SNOW PATROL INTERVIEW TO APPEAR ON MTV (US) BELLE AND SEBASTIAN FINALLY HAVE NATIONAL TV DEBUT (UK) A SMALL GATHERING OF FRIENDS AT A JEEPSTER NIGHT (SWEDEN) SNOW PATROL INTERVIEW TO APPEAR ON MTV (US) ------------------------------------------- http://www.jeepster.co.uk/snowpatrol/ taking a rather hurried break in their current tour of europe with supergrass, snow patrol headed over to dublin for the mtv europe music awards. they performed at the aftershow party alongside the charlatans, and the result of all this rock 'n' roll shenanigans is that mtv america were so impressed with the performance they felt obliged to interview the 'patrol straight away. the interview will be broadcast on saturday at 6:30pm (u.s. time) during the mtv news, and will be repeated several times next week. also getting their debut us airing will be short clips from snow patrol videos around the interview. BELLE AND SEBASTIAN FINALLY HAVE NATIONAL TV DEBUT (UK) ------------------------------------------------------- http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ set your video's! belle and sebastian will be making their debut national (UK) television appearance on the re-born 'tube' television program. the tube formed an integral role in developing 'yoof tv' in the UK and this re-birth will hopefully herald a small revolution in television broadcasting that can save us from tfi friday and the demise of the chart show and offer a spark of mayhem and music genius back into late night viewing in the UK. the 'apocalypse tube' is being recorded and broadcast on Saturday 20th November and will appear on Sky One between 9pm and midnight. the highlights will be repeated on terrestrial television on Channel 4 between 1am and 4am on 1st January. all of belle and sebastian will be present for the live performance, as yet we do not have the list of tracks that will be played, but we do know that it will include two as yet unreleased and not-played-at-gigs tracks from the forthcoming new album. the hosts for the program will be chris moyles (bbc radio 1 dj) and donna air (mtv vj). other guests on the show are rumoured to feature the artist formerly known as prince, oasis, robbie williams, travis and michael stipe. though i'll state now that we haven't received a confirmed list of guests. A SMALL GATHERING OF FRIENDS AT A JEEPSTER NIGHT (SWEDEN) --------------------------------------------------------- http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ chris geddes and richard colburn (the keyboardist and percussionist from belle and sebastian) will be attending and dj'ing (mostly northern soul and funk) at a jeepster club night in SWEDEN along with a swedish dj. this is the first organized jeepster event outside of the UK, and should hopefully enable kids in other countries to hear the music jeepster are putting out and to have a more intimate rapport with the belles. the event will be hosted at the Estrad in Malmo (SWEDEN) on December 2nd from 9pm to 2am. records and promotional items for all of the bands on jeepster will be given away during the night as well as having jeepster music played during the night. tickets will be available on the door. END OF MESSAGE -------------- that's the end of another one :) remember, if you don't want to receive these messages, just pop along to http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ and use the form provided on most of the pages to unsubscribe :) cheers david +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ jeepster own my soul david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd : http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ mailto:david at jeepster.co.uk : icq 28483699 : mobile 07930 116 705 po box 14153, london sw11 4xu, uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Fri Nov 12 18:49:43 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:49:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: b&s on telly - for sinister (fwd) Message-ID: Everyone - the band's office (er, Neil and Katrina) have sent along early warning of a debut TV appearance of B&S on, erm, TV. New songs, first on Sky for plugged-in people and then on Channel 4. Please don't bomb the list for requests "please someone tape it for me!" because I'm sure lots of people will at the time - if someone wants to think of a way to organise it and keep the list sane, I'd be grateful. Also I've reproduced the band diary latest for anyone who wants to see it here. It's quite funny and talks about B&S on TV too. It's like panto. Should put a stop to the vicious rumours that B&S are twee once and for all. If you all get sick of me sending it here as well let me know. Honey ---------- Forwarded message ---------- hi paul, something to forward to sinister from us here at banchory :) cheers, katrina + neil. > Belle & Sebastian are to make their debut national TV appearance on > "Apocalypse Tube". The band will be performing two new songs on the show, > broadcast live on Sky One at 9PM on Saturday 20th November. As well as a > live webcast, the show will also be shown on Channel 4 at 1AM on the 1st of > January. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- DIARY OF A BAND 10th November 1999 Stuart Murdoch of Belle and Sebastian discusses 'The Tube and what to do about it' Neil: Do you want to do The Tube? Richard: With Jools Holland? Neil: With Chris Moyles. Chris: He's a dick... OK. Bel: What will we play? Me: I dunno, what do you want to play? Bel: Something old. Something they will know. Mick: What do you want to play? Me: I'm not bothered, what do you think? Mick: Something new. Definitely. Sarah: Any ideas what we are going to play? Me: Mick says something new. Bel says something old. Sarah: Something borrowed then. Me: A medley! Sarah: Yes. Me: I'll start with 'Thank You For The Music', then Bel and you do 'The Day We Went to Bangor'... Sarah: ... then we finish with Stevie doing 'There Ain't No Pleasing You'. A medley. Stuart David: I'm not fucking doing it... Beep. Me: What are we going to do about The Tube? Chris & Stevie: We don't know. We are in America. We are having the time of our lives. We have never eaten so well. The weather's amazing. There's the Golden Gate Bridge. Me: I'm fed up with this. Grant off Eastenders: Who else is on the show? Me: Travis, Weller, Oasis, McCartney, Sting probably. Grant off Eastenders: Oh, I love that Travis. (sings) Why does it always rain... Me: You're not helping. Mature Student: Why don't you take a vote on it? Me: That's sensible. Thanks Mature Student! I'VE BEEN sitting in this same spot all year, and I'm bored so I'm going to describe a couple of my favourite things to make up for it. Chris and I enter Nice'n'Sleazy's at 5.00pm on a summer Tuesday. We've been working, but that instantly passes from our minds as we get a prime table and ask for the Scrabble board. We order Jack Daniels. I put a pound in the jukebox, jabbing in the codes without looking. Eighties favourites. Quieter than your 90's junk, so I ask the girl to turn it up. Foxy brings over our veggie BLT's on the house. I get 'cunting' on a triple word score. I leave the pavilion with the clack-clack of moulded studs. There used to be a wee guy who went round the West End wearing football boots the whole time. My guess is that he wanted to anticipate the frisson of pre-match joy over and over again. Stuart Murdoch +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jp.champagne at xxx.ca Fri Nov 12 18:54:39 1999 From: jp.champagne at xxx.ca (Jean-Pierre Champagne) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 13:54:39 -0500 Subject: Sinister: B&S in Toronto and a question on Hefner Message-ID: <382C626E.E28DD371@utoronto.ca> Persuant to the misconception of a B&S show next week in TO (due to a misleading ad in Now, a great local free entertainment mag, that read " Direct from Glasgow - Belle and Sebastian"), the same magazine has run a small article on the furor that ensued. Apparently, the got a couple hundred phone calls on it. Now actually called Matador to get the low down, and the Matador rep succinctly said "There's no fucking way Belle and Sebastian are playing in Toronto this month" (or something very similar to that - I haven't got the article with me). Now, about Henfer: I was just hoping someone could give me the digs on them. Firstly, I'm in the mood for a new band, and I've heard good things, but I can't seem to figure out they're angle since I haven't heard anything. Plus, they're coming to town, so I don't want to miss an excellent show if there is one to be had. So could someone let me know if they're sharp and what release would be the best starting place? Cheers. JPMFC +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Fri Nov 12 07:18:28 1999 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steve Kado) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 02:18:28 -0500 Subject: Sinister: the good humour man, he sees everything this way Message-ID: <382BBF44.386AB36D@utoronto.ca> this is shocking: i actually mention b&s in this post. (and robots too) why is everyone so down on autumn all of the sudden? for a while the autumn rhapsodies were coming thick and heavy and now everyone is whining about the oncoming winter. i think autumn is "the shit". if turn of the century vienna was a season it would be autumn (turn of the century vienna was also 'the shit' in a decadent sort of way). and i;m not the only one who digs fall. all my friends agree. especially my friend amber who came in second in a butter sculpting contest yesterday. she did a nice one of an old lady sitting on a bench with pigeons. yesterday was one of those bitterly cold but very sunny autumn days and i was riding my bike around with IYFS on my walkman. i realize that riding a bike (especially the way i do) is dangerous if you can't hear the cries of the irate pedestrians and motorists but the day demanded it of me. [robots] also, the batteries were going to by the end sturan sounded like stephen merritt, which was kind of novel. and i picked up some brilliant stuff: from the pretentiously architectural architecture library (ooh i am so very eloquent) i picked up this book called 'garbage housing' by this pawley fellow, which is a joy to read. and i picked up the first feelies album which sort of summed up all the bands i'd ever wanted to be in. it got me going on a post-punk kick and now i've already done the joy division thing, and now i'm on gang of four. next up pil. its not sunny anymore and i guess i'm feeling more streamlined and twitchy now. i guess this ties in nicely with the gothic belle and sebastian thing eh? seetkvnado [robots] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Fri Nov 12 07:18:28 1999 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steve Kado) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 02:18:28 -0500 Subject: Sinister: the good humour man, he sees everything this way Message-ID: <382BBF44.386AB36D@utoronto.ca> this is shocking: i actually mention b&s in this post. (and robots too) why is everyone so down on autumn all of the sudden? for a while the autumn rhapsodies were coming thick and heavy and now everyone is whining about the oncoming winter. i think autumn is "the shit". if turn of the century vienna was a season it would be autumn (turn of the century vienna was also 'the shit' in a decadent sort of way). and i;m not the only one who digs fall. all my friends agree. especially my friend amber who came in second in a butter sculpting contest yesterday. she did a nice one of an old lady sitting on a bench with pigeons. yesterday was one of those bitterly cold but very sunny autumn days and i was riding my bike around with IYFS on my walkman. i realize that riding a bike (especially the way i do) is dangerous if you can't hear the cries of the irate pedestrians and motorists but the day demanded it of me. [robots] also, the batteries were going to by the end sturan sounded like stephen merritt, which was kind of novel. and i picked up some brilliant stuff: from the pretentiously architectural architecture library (ooh i am so very eloquent) i picked up this book called 'garbage housing' by this pawley fellow, which is a joy to read. and i picked up the first feelies album which sort of summed up all the bands i'd ever wanted to be in. it got me going on a post-punk kick and now i've already done the joy division thing, and now i'm on gang of four. next up pil. its not sunny anymore and i guess i'm feeling more streamlined and twitchy now. i guess this ties in nicely with the gothic belle and sebastian thing eh? seetkvnado [robots] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From COURTOLY at xxx.com Fri Nov 12 21:27:11 1999 From: COURTOLY at xxx.com (COURTOLY at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:27:11 EST Subject: Sinister: tour rumors Message-ID: <0.becfe2ee.255de02f@aol.com> A local promoter said he's probably going to book Belle and Sebastian in Olympia early next year. I take that to be a hope of a West Coast US tour. Apparently Stuart stayed in town for a while during his NW tour, probably learning of the love/hate relationship everyone who lives here eventually aquires after a winter of rain and a lovely warm summer with salmon swimming in the bay. Love Courtney +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dhooper at xxx.com Fri Nov 12 21:38:24 1999 From: dhooper at xxx.com (Dan Hooper) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 13:38:24 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Snow on my TV, and B&S touring my town? Message-ID: Hello Popsters, Carlos wanted to know our opinions of B & S touring the US. Well . . . I wouldn't want to be forward or anything, but . . . YES! YES! YES! YES! And they definately should come out west. California needs them. And I can only vouch for myself, but . . . I guarantee at least one ticket sale at every San Francisco show, San Jose show, Los Angeles show, and any other shows in California. I could also guarantee one ticket sale in Seattle WA, Chicago IL, and Austin, San Antonio, Dallas, or Houston TX because I either like those places or I have friends there. Yes, Belle & Sebastian should tour the US, and frequently! Please pardon my enthusiasm, but the thought excites me. Oh, and my housemate said that she would love to see them play SF as well. Snow Patrol on MTV. This is good, it would be better if it was a Snow Patrol concert, or better yet, a Bell & Sebastian concert, but hey, if Snow Patrol can generate interest, maybe Belle & Sebastian is not far behind. It seems that there are many different meanings to the term "stoner" in this world, and I believe our Mistopher Chris got ahold of the wrong end of the stick. Round about the parts that I come from (Cali, where we know how to party) a "stoner band" is one whose fans tend to alter their consciousness with herbal concoctions, usually to excess, while listening to the band's music. And though I have been known to "burn a fatty" every now and again while listening to IFYS or Twattybus, but never while listening to Tigermilk (yeah, right), and though thoughts of Isobel have been known to evoke Mistopher Chris's idea of a stoner, I would no more call then a "stoner band" that I would a "Goth band" (unless I completely misread my list mates). But it does give me a bit of a smile to think of those creatures of the night with dark silent eyes, brooding visages, and a bit too much make-up softly grooving to "Is It Wicked." The song marie elia used to sing in choir is a canon for Handel's Messiah. It sounds like "Oh we like sheep/ Oh we like sheep/ Oh we like sheep . . ." but in actual fact the lines are "All we like sheep/ All we like sheep/ all we like sheep have gone astray." Still . . . . I have used this piece to demonstrate that George Frederick was a little more than friendly with our fleecy friends, in a country sort of way. And what is even more frightening is that the lyrics, as all the lyric in the Messiah, are verse lifted directly from the Bible. Makes one wonder, don't it? I think I would rather be a goat, but then I am a Capricorn. So I guess I already am. Autumn doesn't make me think of Belle & Sebastian music, but Autumn in California is not like Autumn in say Boston or Virginia. I could see how Belle & Sebastian would be a wonderful soundtrack as one walked across the campus of a fine old eastern American University or against the gothic stone of those campuses in the UK with the air crisp and the leaves crunchy and red and yellow and brown. But here in California, autumn is only summer cooling off before the rains come. The sunlight changes and becomes more sad, because it signifies the end of Summer than the beginning of Winter. But Belle & Sebastian music is like hot cocoa, it makes everything better. Well there's my two cents, and I'm sure we're all the richer for it. I'm back to lurking quietly. Have a nice weekend all . . . Until next time I have something to say All the best Daniel Hooper +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andrea.ware at xxx.com Fri Nov 12 21:53:18 1999 From: andrea.ware at xxx.com (foxinthesnow) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 13:53:18 -0800 Subject: Sinister: garp Message-ID: --- has any one out there ever read john irving's 'the world according to garp,' because i want to know what other people thing of it...(i just finished it...) thanks, andrea get your free gURLmAIL at http://www.gURLmAIL.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i_love_moon at xxx.com Fri Nov 12 23:58:29 1999 From: i_love_moon at xxx.com (Johan Nilsson) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:58:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: romance is for suckers References: <19991112043907.22524.rocketmail@web106.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: <19991112234532.28379.qmail@hotmail.com> I went to have coffee with my ex girlfriend today. I want to kill any sense of evil spirits between the two of us. Because of various reasons we will never hook up again, well not in a near future anyhow. This is not because I don't love her, I'm still in madly in love with her, even though I was the one who pulled the plug. But I don't wanna go into that. I want to remember the good times we had. Question, when you are going home from being with your boyfriend/girlfriend, can you walk propertly? I never could. I would just walk in a way that was a mixture between dancing and walking and when I think about it, the fact that I am actually not walking normally, well it just makes me walk even less normal. I guess when you are so happy, that you can not walk propertly, then you're in love. My ex lives outside the city so we always have to take the bus. Between my house and the bus stop there is a tiny forest. No, well forest is a dumb word, the trees are tiny and it is just a tiny area. But at night it gets really dark and well, I don't like walking there at night, but it's a big short cut so I do. To make myself feel better, as most times I am in the state of walking/dancing because I just got back from my girlfriends house or just followed her to the bus, I will sing. It is not as dumb as it sounds. It is not like someone will actually hear you because the chance of running into someone there is so slim that, well it is not worth concidering. So I sing. I got a horrible voice. Well I can't go into very high notes. But somehow Belle & Sebastian fits just lovely, they are somehow easily sung. Most of the time I sing "Judy And The Dream Of Horses" or "Dog On Wheels". This however makes me walk even less normal. But you know, if I am really going to make a fool out of myself, why not go all the way? Bertrand wrote how he loves winter in Stockholm. I spent last winter in Stockholm, it was by far the coldest winter I have ever experienced in my life, and I am not talking about how it was constantly -10 degrees outside. Stockholm is one of the coldest cities I know of, when it comes to people. If you don't know anyone in Stockholm, no one will ever start talking to you. I could never live in Stockholm and that is not because I grew up in an anti-Stockholm society, it is just because I could never survive another lonely winter there, it would kill me. But I love winter. I love Christmas. I love snow. I love wearing mittens. I love wearing long underwear. I love coming home from work freezing so much I can't feel my legs and make myself a cup of hot coco. I love Christmas lights. I love making snow angles with my little sister. I love winter. *huggies* Johan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nelle at xxx.se Sat Nov 13 00:42:08 1999 From: nelle at xxx.se (Ellen Jernström) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 02:42:08 +0200 Subject: Sinister: when icicles hang by the wall.. Message-ID: <382CB3DB.4F64@hem.passagen.se> johan wrote: >But I love winter. I love Christmas. I love snow. I love wearing mittens. I love >wearing long underwear. I love coming home from work freezing so much I can't >feel my legs and make myself a cup of hot coco. I love Christmas lights. I love >making snow angles with my little sister. I love winter. and bertrand wrote: >Am I the only one in the word to love winter? and i just have to clarify: i love winter too. christmas is great, snow is beautiful, mittens are comfy. but in sweden, the winter somehow never seems to end. it begins usually, not this year though, in late october..and then it goes on and on and on and if you're lucky, the snow is gone by the end of may. it's just too much. i really fancy autumn, though. dan hooper wrote everything i have to say about it - ironically enough, since he's living in california. i won't quote him, go back and read it instead. and autumn really makes me think about belle and sebastian. but, then again - spring does too..=) sleep tight, all. /ellen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Sat Nov 13 06:11:18 1999 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 01:11:18 EST Subject: Sinister: B&S stoners... Message-ID: <0.baf64aea.255e5b06@aol.com> Did anyone see the latest South Park where Ronnie James Dio sang "Holy Diver" at the Bay of Pigs dance? I thought I was going to die... I wouldn't say B&S are an out-and-out stoner band, but they really do sound great when you're baked. I always thought stoner bands were bands that you just HAD to be tore up in order to enjoy (read: Phish), and obviously B&S are the furthest thing from that, but when I listened to TBWTAS after a few tokes, I thought I was going to melt into my seat I was that relaxed. My friend keeps trying to tell me that B&S are a total hippy band, but I tell him where to stick it. I must agree with Mr. Chris who said that he would have stuck two fingers up to Mrs. Blair Witch and bumped uglies with the chick instead. My friend and I were talking on the way home after seeing the movie and we both agreed that if you're getting chased by some horrible, unseen, dis-embowler who chops up your friends and leaves them outside your tent, you better get your groove on while you still have time. Especially when you're in the same tent with a girl like that. Its like that scene in one of the Halloween movies where that couple is scrumping in the hay and Michael Myers runs the guy through with a pitchfork: sure, its gotta suck to be impaled, but at the same time look at how you went out! Top notch! When B&S tour the states, me and Marie Elia have planned to follow them coast to coast (or at least as long as we can). If we throw ourselves at the mercy of our sinister brethren, would you take us in and buy us tickets for the shows we can do it ourselves? This means Chicago, Toronto and anywhere else they're likely to stop outside of NY and DC. I promise a spot on my sofa for any listee who needs a spot near DC... Ummm, I've said my peice and my belly is threatening to say his so I better go quiet him down...love and Teemu Selanne Steve C. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From robhalcrow at xxx.net Sat Nov 13 09:56:49 1999 From: robhalcrow at xxx.net (robhalcrow at xxx.net) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 09:56:49 GMT Subject: Sinister: Beat Room Exposed! Message-ID: <199911130956.JAA30337@boober.lineone.net> Mmmmmmm I managed to catch a repeat of the Beat Room last night and there he was .....Stuart Murdoch (with Bill Wells on piano). He did indeed sing Bewitched and Skylark and a very good job he did too. I wouldn't fancy all those chromatic shifts and death defying leaps, and Old Bill seemed to be trying to put him off. "Just bang out the tune, mate" ... well, that's what I would've said. No goatee (or sheepee) beards in sight, and no Duglas Stewart either. I half expected David Jacobs to pipe up with "Hallo there" and start on about "our kind of music" but he didn't. There was also one Michael Shelley doing something like "My Girlfriend's Got The Right Hump", notable for featuring a certain Beans on keyboard and Stevie Jackson on bass. Other appearances included Hefner, The High Fidelity and The Starlets. I hope all you Glaswegian Sinister types take advantage of all this right on your doorstep (wags finger in admonishing way), and finally, footie fans, let's make sure we all st! ! ! ay friends during the next 5 days, eh? I'm torn by virtue of being English yet seeing pundit Kelly Dalglish in a Scotland shirt this morning........ Yours Rob PS 2 Picturebox songs now on Ear Confection at http://www.send.demon.co.uk/beagle.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Sat Nov 13 11:17:58 1999 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 06:17:58 EST Subject: Sinister: Who really likes music more? Message-ID: <0.1be7fb4e.255ea2e6@aol.com> In a message dated 11/12/99 6:14:21 PM, owner-sinister-digest at Majordomo.net writes: << I think I may disagree. The person who only loves the Beatles, The Who and D. Bowie but is unaware of the Extra-glens may simply be showing that their love for the Beatles is as much as someone's love for obscure bands and other stuff. I just don't think its a way to measure who likes music more. I don't think there are any indicators. Maybe someone can comment on this and change my mind? >> I think it is easy and convenient to be a Bowie, Beatles or Who-> fan but the person that goes deeper into obscurity may grow more as a result. Not to sound like a musicologist snob, but I think the person into obscure music has the better acquired taste since they have explored more avenues in music than what is readily available. They might not like music more but would be considered more developed to make opinions on what is available due to their extensive background. Just a thought... Pete Gianakopoulos +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Poppixxie at xxx.com Sat Nov 13 07:47:13 1999 From: Poppixxie at xxx.com (Poppixxie at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 02:47:13 EST Subject: Sinister: a variety of musings and gaiety Message-ID: <0.d85eb1c2.255e7181@aol.com> oh hello hello my dearest sinisterees. ON THE TOPIC OF THE NURSERY: please do not delete my mail or click on the next button at the bottom of your luminscing screen. catch your attention. hey i tried. anyhow, i was just thinking today of all the fun people who i hope are still on list who should really post again soon for they are great fun and quite wonderful. please all you fresh out of the nursery premee sinister cherub babies, do not take offense to this for you are all quite wonderful, however it seems that all i receive anymore is introductions and it's terrified all my old dear friends to back themselves into a corner of the internet netherworld. among these are funkyseb who i miss terribly. funky seb, if you read this know that i always adore your posts and would love for you to liven my day relating one of your fabulous tales. and carrick. i always enjoy your taste in music and i do agree that looper is a little pish. ON THE SUBJECT OF AUTUMN: all this talk of autumn in a negative light is breaking my heart. i for one loooove autumn, it is my favorite of the seasons. although i also live in the state of new jersey, make fun all you like, that has a particularly breathtaking season of falling leaves and temperate weather. there is always that brisk breeze in the air. the kind of weather that could cause a scene such as the one in american beauty with the plastic bag whisping through the air. my soundtrack to autumn though is not belle and sebastian (gasp) it is however any album by elliot smith. i think he's wonderful and have a bit of a non-sexual crush on him. (ps. did anyone catch something on the bravo station with mr. smith in it and he's music as the soundtrack and also of interest and worthy of note, a ROBOTIC hand! i love robots and elliot smith however i only caught about 15 minutes of the show and have not a clue as to what it was) autumn yes. although i do like winter as well. it reminds me of the ice storm. or spring even. for everyone falls in love during that season, it's the fault of spring fever. yes blame it on the virus of budding daisies and pixie dust (otherwise known as passion pollen) gallavanting through the air. <> i agree. however i don't like butter. i've sworn it as my enemy and waged many a battle on the lord of lard. ON THE TOPIC OF CONTENT: you all might have been wondering if this post contained any content whatsoever.....and well it does!! yes, here goes. i like belle and sebastian. yes, i think they are a great band. alright, there's more to it than that. i've been on a kick lately though. all i want to listen to is belle and sebastian. i know, it's a strange obession but yeah. alright so there really isn't any content. and seeing as how this post is soooo long i'll wait until monday to relate the rest of what's on my mind. love you sinister....... shAwnEE- vowels are important +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Tigerxdare at xxx.com Sat Nov 13 15:27:41 1999 From: Tigerxdare at xxx.com (Tigerxdare at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 10:27:41 EST Subject: Sinister: madeline Message-ID: <0.35e4bd73.255edd6d@aol.com> hello darlings, i was out last night getting a video, and i went into a childrens consignment shoppe that was nearby. to my great delight i found a true treasure- this store carried madeline dolls and accessories something that i have desired for quite some time. these dolls are damn near impossible to get ahold of, ive looked and looked. i remember loving madeline so, because i use to watch it on the telly when i was a wee one. i am pretty sure, but cant seem to completely remember, if they show and all madeline stuff in general in from england or not. i think it is, because i recall everyone having english accents on the cartoon. if any of you know anything as to the origin of madeline, please mail me. i am very curious and would love to know....today i am going back there to buy one of the dolls. it is fabulous. xoxo, lauren +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i.am.sinister at xxx.uk Sat Nov 13 14:56:07 1999 From: i.am.sinister at xxx.uk (sweetie) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 14:56:07 -0000 Subject: Sinister: are you ready to bop? lets bop. Message-ID: <014101bf2ded$4890a000$701f883e@anne666theasylum> good morning sinister!! morning, lol! its bloody half past 2 in this afters and thats me been out of bed or an hour!! :) so what have we all been up to, rolling down hills covered in buttercups?? running thro fields filled with wheat?? picking the pretty pansies?? i was just thinking, i recall hearing some talk of a new B&S album. but i have realised that i know nought about this, anyone like to fill me in?? what is there left to know? what is there left to say? FUCK ALL! lets just dance, yeah! icq# 44244252 ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Life isn't a rehearsal, it's for real. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Sat Nov 13 17:43:06 1999 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 17:43:06 +0000 Subject: Sinister: romance is for suckers Message-ID: <80256828.006155DD.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> Hello. Baaa. When I saw the subject of Johan's message I thought it was a mucky reference to the 'controversial' Catherine Breillat film. I saw that this week. It upset me quite a lot. It's all about the dark recesses of sexual identity and how relationships are really all really fiendish power struggles. 'Romance is the illusion of love', opines Breillat in an interview. Oooh - I guess that makes the title I-R-O-N-I-C. I felt like sticking 'Lazy Line Painter Jane' up their miserable arses. I suppose that makes me a twee fucker who doesn't understand THE DARK SIDE. Well better that than be a goth. Although I am a bit partial to a bit of 'the 4AD Belle and Sebastian' once in a while. New game: give me... goth versions of well known Belle & Sebastian songs. I'm very excited about these new songs. Perhaps Stuartemm will have written one of them for a change. That would be nice. I also applaud the band's decision to throw their aesthetic masterplans out of the window and appear on an Sky One show hosted by Chris 'Boils' Moyles. Look what it also says on the band's site: > We are also recording a Peel session in December, to > be broadcast on Radio 1 early next year. Huzzah - at last. >Me: I'm fed up with this. >Grant off Eastenders: Who else is on the show? >Me: Travis, Weller, Oasis, McCartney, Sting probably. >Grant off Eastenders: Oh, I love that Travis. (sings) Why does it always rain... >Me: You're not helping. Stuart's just like us, really. Except he can't be, because he also writes all those songs. That's the thing you can't get away from with art - it's all produced by artists. I'm in a funny mood. A while ago, I read this: >perhaps i could have thought of something more appropriate >than oh if i hadn't spent the previous 3 hours in the pub >consoling a newly single female friend. that always happens >to me cos im dead unthreatening and so they come to me when >they break up with their exciting blokes in order to be >convinced that there are nice guys in the world, then they >start going out with the next exciting guy they meet. well >i've decided to become interesting cos its obviously the way >to get girls. > a) not ironing my jeans > b) buying myself a small motor scooter > c) allowing my cd collection to deviate from > alphabetical order (not the > vinyl though, a man can only go so far) > d) pretending that i have actual friends who e-mail > me and not just people i've never met Beware young wizard! This light-hearted pique about girls and their crazee ways might one day turn nasty. Once you have found that throwing your CDs into a big heap and not washing for a week still doesn't bring the girls a-knocking, you could find yourself replacing 'exciting blokes' with 'bastards' or 'fuck ups'. And then you'll might start really RESENTING girls for not playing fair by fancying you rotten. And then you might turn into a miserable old cunt. And misogyny is not cool. Although it might be a real bitch magnet. I really don't know. Anyway, best not to worry too much. Generalising about such things is the road to ruin. See 'Romance'. Or rather, don't. Anyway, yes - you still haven't answered Mark C's question about how this squares with your earlier claims of being mobbed by women wherever you go. Were they not 'the right sort of girls'? These things cut both ways, remember. There was once a terrific song by a band called Airhead went 'Funny how the girls you fall in love with never fancy you / funny how the ones you don't do'. It predated the crap-breezy-indie-rock craze by several years. Thinking about it, Airhead are a perfect example of the artless product of a people who aren't artists. And that's why we can all relate to it so well. Cuz you know it *is* funny how the girls you fall in love with never fancy you. And you know what's SO IRONIC - how the ones you don't DO. Sheesh! La la la Nick xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ThisSuffering at xxx.com Sun Nov 14 01:38:49 1999 From: ThisSuffering at xxx.com (ThisSuffering at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 20:38:49 EST Subject: Sinister: ex girlfriends hurt Message-ID: <0.3eda4119.255f6ca9@aol.com> dear sinisters. i just cant take it anymore.. ex girlfriends are terrible, you can't even be friends with them, and they sure know how to break your heart.. over, and over.. and over once more. im at the point where i cant take it anymore, i need to surround myself with belle and sebastian yet again.. this time i've popped in dog on wheels to hear the lovely chimes of their self titled track.. what can i do.. i've yet to find my match that loves belle and sebastian as much as i do. heartbroken and weary.. carlos xoxox +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Kt788 at xxx.com Sun Nov 14 03:26:01 1999 From: Kt788 at xxx.com (Kt788 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 22:26:01 EST Subject: Sinister: Can you pic-nic? Message-ID: <0.ccd47723.255f85c9@aol.com> don't waste the biggest shopping day of the year actually shopping. come picnicking with us instead. Well actually, a picnic might not work if it's freezing cold so I am going to attempt to arrange a meet-up for anyone in the massachusetts area. well anyone can come, really. This is actually Tom's idea and he is coming all the way from salt lake city. So i am depending on all of you not to let our southwestern brother down. The date is November 26 so many people will have the day off (day after thanksgiving) and Tom's gonna be here (and maybe his friend), so it seems right. There will be no turkey and No football. There'll be mu-u-usic! Open to suggestions on a meeting place, though i have a few places in mind. Anyone interested please mail me. we'll have a real old fashioned hootenanny. kristie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From redden at xxx.com Sun Nov 14 05:06:40 1999 From: redden at xxx.com (danielle redden) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 00:06:40 -0500 Subject: Sinister: JOIN THE HUMAN CHAIN Message-ID: every time i post i promise myself i wont post again for another...week...month...year... but then the wine comes and it the night gets to me and fuck it not even kitty's awake to listen to my lullabies. i met chan marshall and she said "oooohhhh i love you're coat" in her sweet southern draw and i held back with all my might the reply of "can i kiss you please" and i learned today that the english dont use the word 'barrette' they say something like 'hair grip' which sounds painful. i dreamt last night staurt m. met my father. in the back seat driving down eagle road and my father said, 'do you eat buffalo wings, stuart?' and stuart looked at me with wide confused eyes. and for once in my life i hadnt a word to say. love danielle Whaat!!! Have you tried The Doghouse??! Get your FREE WEB-BASED EMAIL account at: http://doghousemail.lycos.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Sun Nov 14 13:11:29 1999 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 13:11:29 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: insert one of your favourite song lyrics here Message-ID: well hi de ho my strange chums sorry if this doesnt make much sense but i spent 13 hours drinking yesterday (ENG-ER-LAND ENG-ER-LAND ENG-ER-LAND) and thus have a rather impresive hang over had a meeting with one of my tutors on thursday, she used to be seeing a flatmate of stevie jackson when she was in glasgow as a student, apparently he used to take his guitar to parties in order to serenade women and at her birthday party he played corrina corrina to her. i think serenading women at parties is nice but i dont think i could do it myself. autumn and winter are nice just a bit too dark. in winter we can go sledging on binliners which is good. someone suggested a new game of thinking up goth versions of B&S song titles...first a few that we dont need to change the state i am in the boy done wrong again i dont love anyone and now for a few perversions of the originals im wicked and i dont care (is it wicked not to care) fucks in the snow (okay so thats more punk than goth..funny though) just a gothic rock song a century of black eyeliner that'll do for now eh a few people seem to be under the misconception that i spend my time complaining both about having to fight women off and about never being able to pull. well i never claimed either, i said i get women very rarely (im an ugly sod) and when i do they just want to get straight into bed rather than hanging out, talking and generally spending time together. this is why im generally not to happy with the (unfair) fairer sex. im gonna start my dissertation today...only 18,000 words to go. have a good one reverend owen 'dangerous' lowery With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GBCH at xxx.uk Sun Nov 14 15:24:37 1999 From: GBCH at xxx.uk (Chris_t_opher) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 15:24:37 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Here We Go... Message-ID: <004c01bf2eb4$5d597d00$fc3c883e@gsh> Just wondering, > > This was said by Starry at some point: > > >Fuckin 'ell, is Gregorys Girl a rare film in America? Not seen it myself. I > >expect it'll happen one of these days. But most kids in the UK see that > film at > >school - when its a rainy break and you can't go outside, so you have to > stay > >in the classroom, and if you're in the English room where theres a telly, > you > >get to watch an old musty video they've kept in the back storeroom since > 1963. > > What is Gregory's Girl? Is it a film and series, because i watched something > called that the other week on CH4! Is it always as good as it was a > fortnight ago, btw? I didnt know anything that old could be so good! at the ageing mob surrounding him, with a tear in his eye> Whoops > > See, i dont always take up loads of room > Chris_t_opher +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Archel1978 at xxx.com Sun Nov 14 18:12:29 1999 From: Archel1978 at xxx.com (Archel1978 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 13:12:29 EST Subject: Sinister: journalism is dead. long live journalism. Message-ID: <0.b83d72ef.2560558d@aol.com> strange. i just read my last message and it seems i wrote that i wanted to kiss my ex's arse. it should of course have read KICK his arse. i definitely don't want to kiss it. any more. unfortunately we got on quite well at the awards, which meant i got depressed having to go home without him. but i also could have been depressed because of the infantile drunken hacks who made up most of the 'glamourous' audience/nominees. they will no doubt be the tabloid journalists of the future and i hope they all die a miserable death, especially the bloke who shouted 'fuck off' at the lovely david aaronovitch when he announced he'd won something. that's gratitude for you. i am disillusioned with the future of the media. and not just because we didn't win anything. still, i got to dress up and i survived the experience intact without running desperately into the Ex's arms. but i did have to play hefner very loud on the way home to calm me down (i wanted b&s but didn't have any with me). discovered while doing this that it sounds like someone's making a cup of tea in the background on 'another better friend'. richard colborn may have leant them drum parts, but he obviously didn't show them how to use them properly. how i wish i could sit in on struan's scrabble games. although being a hopeless pedant i would have to query the validity of 'cunting'. b&s should write a song about scrabble, it's pretty twee (unless you're allowing words like 'cunting', i suppose.) or maybe looper could do one - stuart david mumbling random words from a real game over some xylophone (now that would be a high scoring word.) CHRIS MOYLES!!!!!!!?????? nooooooooooooo!!!!!!! still, anyone with sky fancy hosting a tv evening next saturday?? :) tainted love, archel xxx ps: i might be starting another little mag myself soon, for poetry and thoughts and stuff. submissions will be welcomed with a mug of hot chocolate and a roaring fire, so mail me if you're interested. ******** Rachel Playforth archel at iname.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Sun Nov 14 19:54:27 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 20:54:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bewitched, Bewildered and Be Buggered Message-ID: <01bf2eda$0e9bc120$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Paul Rudolph wrote: I asked a friend who isn't into the indie scene/obscure bands if what Mr. Miller said is true and here is what he said ( I hope you don't mind that I did that Peter): Of course I don't mind Paul, but I can't claim the credit for those comments about people who like obscure indie groups liking music more than Genesis, Chopin, Bronski Beat or Sting fans. That honour goes to Darran from Hefner. It was in an interview by our friend Jarkko that he sent in to the list last week or the week before. I think Darran Hefner was probably at least half joking anyway. I was just using it as a poor excuse to have a pop at Tim Hopkins in the vain hope that he'll come out with both guns blazing and reduce me to a quivering wreck with his atomic wit. Dan Hooper wrote: I have been known to "bum a fatty" every now and again while listening to IFYS Who was the fatty? If I was going to bum a fatty, I'd put on Bronski Beat after Jimmy Sommerville had left. But I've got terrible back ache at the moment. Some time ago, I unsubscribed from the Beepster news list because I didn't want to get it anymore. Wishful thinking. But it's quite good now. Every time it comes through, its ponytail has grown. They've really got that record executive talk down pat these days. I think they sold the original Tube a bit short though. It was instrumental in the early careers of Paul Young, Heaven 17, Fine Young Cannibals and Bronski Beat, to name just a handful. I used to have to go upstairs to watch it. I watch whatever I like now. Last night I watched Lalo Schifrin with a huge fuck-off orchestra. They did Mission Impossible at the end. You should have seen how the square bear orchestra types dug it and really got into the swing. It was a deeply groovy moment for me, quite spiritual. I had a scary nightmare about the Blake Witch Project. It's all your fault. And there's nothing easy or convenient about being a WHO fan, especially a 70s WHO fan. What's more, it's something that I personally feel has made a major contribution to my inner growth as a human being. love, Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rachel at xxx.uk Sun Nov 14 20:36:40 1999 From: rachel at xxx.uk (rachel tucker) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 20:36:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: obscure music vs mainsteam Message-ID: <000901bf2ee0$3f3ede60$6184883e@preinstalledco> i don't often emerge blinking out of luckerdom, but the debate over whether listening to obscure music makes you a 'better' person with a more valid opinion has got me stirring. i never got into music before 1994, not even kylie and jason like everyone else, but at the age of 13 i launched in and became that most irritating type of music fan - a teenage indie snob. how i came out of that period with any friends at all is a miracle - or just proof that music isn't always that important. the extremely confused point that i think that i am trying to make ( i still don't have it sorted in my head, and i've been debating it against myself for three years), is that music is enjoyed on an individual basis, and no-one should EVER be laughed at, humiliated, or worse of all, dismissed, for the music they listen to. yes, go ahead and try to introduce people to bands that you love, god knows i've tried to convert people to b&s (recent conversation with placebo obsessed mate: hey, rachel, would you make me a tape? me: yeah, definitely. friend: but don't keep sneaking that shit happy clappy(!) band on like you always do.), and disagreement is healthy. but i don't see why i should be put down for owning albums by five and ant and dec, or for rating the charlatans way, way over radiohead (something that's hard to do while living in oxford). i'm ashamed of my time as a sneering, cynical music snob. all i can say in my defence is that i was very insecure back then and desperate to feel better than my peers through a 'superior' record collection. which, looking back, was in itself, a joke. 1994 saw the explosion of britpop so i have everything heavy stereo ever released, and an awful lot of stuff by shed seven. but y'know, they do have nostalgia value, some great choruses, and i'm well chuffed about gem joining oasis... ahh, i feel much better after that rant, though i'm sure none of you out there do. i'm sorry. anyway, since i'm here, i'd like to share some cheerful news. i listened to the stone roses for the first time in nearly two years last night (well, bar druckenly dancing to 'fools gold' in various cowley road pubs), and fuck me were they breathtakingly brilliant. the shivers were already creeping down my spine by the time ian was whispering that he wanted to be adored, and i had to remind myself to breathe in 'made of stone'. it was even better than hearing them for the first time, the forgotton familiarality heightening the experience. i'm hoping that the same thing will happen with b&s; i haven't played anything by them for over a month as gorky's, death in vegas's 'the contino sessions' and the new charlatans album have been fighting over my stereo. poor stuart, but absence is definitely making the heart grow even fonder it'll burst soon, and then i won't even be able to lurk!). and i have been getting my fix from the guardian column....ooh stuart, i'll play scrabble with you anyday! oh well, my time is up, i'm wilting in the bright lights of the list, so i'll slither, not bleat, my way back to lurkerdom. see you all in another 6 months, lots of love rachel xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com Sun Nov 14 20:45:17 1999 From: Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com (Paul Rudolph) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 15:45:17 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Laboring over The Who/B&S completeness Message-ID: <0056750011107094000002L542*@MHS> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From BrnToEnd at xxx.com Sun Nov 14 22:15:32 1999 From: BrnToEnd at xxx.com (BrnToEnd at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 17:15:32 EST Subject: Sinister: Attitude You got some fucking Attitude Message-ID: <0.4d17fa89.25608e84@aol.com> Hello Listees, Haven't posted in a while but I think I say that everytime I post on the list. SO ok...... I saw Guided by voices thursday at the M. Hall in S.F. and holy shit is all I have to say. Man I knew nothing about their concerts and Wooooaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh. Crazed pothead drunk fans stage diving, cigs, cigs, cigs, beer, beer, beer, pot, pot, probably crack, girl going on stage giving everyone a beer, more beer, more smoke, 3 sets played. NOW THATS FUCKING ROCK N ROLL! AMEN! Finished Less Than Zero by Brett Easton Ellis today. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ boring. ugh wasted $13 on it. Too bad Patrick Bateman couldn't come in it at the end and kill them all. hardy har I got drunk for the first time since Wed. and it feels weird but Thank god I dont have a hang over! Next concerts: Cat Power at the Maritime hall and Stereolab 1st night at the Filmmore Bye Bye kids..Thanks for listening -Damon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 15 00:25:23 1999 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:25:23 BST Subject: Sinister: lo-fi hi-fi tie-dye Message-ID: <21AD4CB48CB@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> evenin' campers, that is my new greeting to all and sundry. my flesh-and-blood friends don't seem to have noticed / appreciated it, so i thought i had better point it out in words to you guys. in recent posts i seem to have given some of you the impression that i don't like autumn, thats not what i meant at all. i don't like the idea of a whole season being in a huff with me, so i 'll put things to rights by saying that what i meant was that autumn is so beautiful that somehow it makes me feel a bit lonely (although that doesn't apply when its raining, i can't cope at all when it rains, don't ask me how i've managed living in the north of england all my life). i don't want to write any more on this subject because i'm starting to feel like a piss-poor sixth form poet and i'm very tempted to spout forth about roaring fires and fairy lights. to add to the theme of people splitting up (which as we well know includes myself, it being the catalyst for much whinging) my ex-ex has just split up with his new girlfriend and i am being reeeally nice and comforting, in a genuine act of friendship. for once i am doing something that i'm proud of and can feel good about, see how i pat myself on the back. stuff must be good, even the powers that be seem to love me. b+s on the telly coincides with me going home, where i can watch cable tv and video it and watch it again, and again, and again, to my heart's content (not that i'm that sad at all, you understand) anyone tried completely chocolate covered jaffa cakes? i think they're overrated, and not really that different to ordinary jaffa cakes because once they're in your mouth you don't notice that more of the surface area is covered by chocolate, thus defeating the object. i'm sure i had constructive comments to make on the backlog of posts i just read, but eveything i ever .... no, wait, i've remembered something.... goth. i've always liked goths, that might have something to do with growing up in leeds (the home of goth) although probably not, because i never noticed that many. anyway, goths always seem really honest and trustworthy to me, shit, that's a huge generalisation, and i'm going to stop before i embarass myself any further. i think its just my inate respect for anyone who manages to wear anything approaching as much eye make-up as i do on a regular basis. not really feeling on form tonight, just in the sense of being able to write anyhting that makes sense, you understand. so i shall say good-bye until the next time.... stay beautiful, fiona =====cheese - the one for me!===== +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GoGoEcho at xxx.com Mon Nov 15 05:00:00 1999 From: GoGoEcho at xxx.com (GoGoEcho at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:00:00 EST Subject: Sinister: GBV a reply to Attitude You got some fucking Attitude Message-ID: <0.79f957f2.2560ed50@aol.com> -Damon BrnToEnd at aol.com said, SO ok...... I saw Guided by voices thursday at the M. Hall in S.F. and holy shit is all I have to say. Man I knew nothing about their concerts and Wooooaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh.... NOW THATS FUCKING ROCK N ROLL! AMEN! Well I just have to say that I saw Bob play 4 times now and I keep coming back for more they're one of the best bands around live. If you want a concert that is ultra catchy and spawns sing-a-longs GO SEE GBV!!! Also note that I've met Bob Pollard who is Guided By Voices and Doug Gillard (lead Guitarist of recent) in an airport no less and they are cool. They talked with us for several minutes and were completly down to earth and made some jokes. Well that's all had to comment when someone mentioned GBV. adam +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Mon Nov 15 05:06:39 1999 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:06:39 EST Subject: Sinister: obscure music vs mainsteam Message-ID: <0.bc7c8837.2560eedf@aol.com> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Mon Nov 15 05:08:01 1999 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:08:01 EST Subject: Sinister: Arggghhh...this one is not blank! Message-ID: <0.45c1436d.2560ef31@aol.com> I totally fubared that last sinister message, so I beg your forgiveness for the blanky. Hre it goes for real: Like Rachel, I really, really tried to stay out of this one 'cause I figured I wouldn't have anything of value to add to the debate. Well, useless or not, I think its time I said my peice. No offense to anyone on the list, but I find it ludicrous that because someone listens to the Velvet Underground, their opinions are more highly respected than the Rod Stewart fan. It should be about the motivation and the passion for the music as opposed to what the music is, or whos playing it. I mean, you can't honestly divine what a person gets out of Limp Bizkit, and if you can and you dismiss him on this assumption, than you're being more ignorant than that person anyway. Like when Elliott Smith played the Academy Awards last year, all these indie kids came up to him afterwards and were like "I can't believe they made you hold Celine Dion's hand" and he was like "Well, she happens to be a very nice person and alot more openminded than you're being right now. You're in a very backwards position, you should rethink it." I don't detect any of that on this list most of the time, but go to any indie club like the Black Cat in DC and you'll see these indie scenesters in full effect. Its really quite snobbish to assume that because you were the only person in your zip code to buy the Rites of Spring LP from 1985 (mail order via Dischord of course, because retail is way to depressing and not nearly indie cool enough), that you've been moved in a way that people who love Sixpence None the Richer can't appreciate. Music is music, and if throwing an unknown band into a conversation just to make yourself look alot smarter is your idea of cool, then you're in a bad way. I personally hate 99% of what is played on the radio stations, but if some Lit song gives a 15-year-old the same misty-eyes that Maggie May gives me, well, than where's the problem? Its become sadly evident that punk/indie rock has totally become a cartoon of itself. It started out as an alternative to the cock-rock club that Led Zeppelin and others had started and now, its even more exclusive than the regime it set out to fight, and thats pretty sad. The VU and such weren't playing their music so people in SoHo would stop and say "whoa thats really obtuse!", they were playing it because people then weren't making the kind of music they wanted to hear and they wanted to bring like-minded people some joy. Maybe some of them did want to start some sick club, but how is that part of the solution anyway? If someone truly loves the music they listen to, and if they have a passion for it, then thats who's opinion I trust, not someone who listens to indie bands just so they make sure they're among the "in" crowd. Be it Ida or Barry Manilow, just make it mean something. I'm really sorry to rant, and again I don't want this construed as anything personal because I was speaking less about this list than the general state of indie rock. Um...ok...sorry again Steve C. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Mon Nov 15 05:50:16 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:50:16 EST Subject: Sinister: obscure goth steve c and momus Message-ID: <0.bbe6a19e.2560f918@aol.com> In a message dated 11/13/99 1:02:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, Nick.Dastoor at guardian.co.uk writes: << New game: give me... goth versions of well known Belle & Sebastian songs. >> The Boy With The Dark Eyeliner Me and the Major Are Depressed Get Me Away from Here, i'm Dying (Not So Great)Expectations Strung Out Jean If You're Feeling Suicidal Manic Depressive Line Painter Jane Industrial Reniassance Seeing Other People Who Are Happy OBSCURE BANDS ARE/ AREN'T COOL look. If i recall correctly, Seester Deeesco was quoting the gent from Hefner. It wasn't a serious statement. Please, let's not get another spat started on the list. It will upset Mummy, first of all, and it will just be horrible. steve c said I don't detect any of that on this list most of the time, but go to any indie club like the Black Cat in DC and you'll see these indie scenesters in full effect. Its really quite snobbish to assume that because you were the only person in your zip code to buy the Rites of Spring LP from 1985 (mail order via Dischord of course, because retail is way to depressing and not nearly indie cool enough), that you've been moved in a way that people who love Sixpence None the Richer can't appreciate.>> and he is totally right. but let's just leave it at that, ok? i just bought a momus album the other day. it's very good, i think. quite the lusty fellow though. i'm not sure if the irony is really all that enjoyable. but his voice is good, and so's the keyboard bits. from the surface of the moon dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chamomile1 at xxx.com Mon Nov 15 07:15:44 1999 From: chamomile1 at xxx.com (jarkko frantila) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 23:15:44 PST Subject: Sinister: my music is better than yours, geddit? Message-ID: <19991115071545.28758.qmail@hotmail.com> FINALLY! Took me bloody ages, but finally I had my first B&S- dream last week: I was reading a newspaper in the morning, found out that B&S was coming to play here. I then phoned all my B&S- obsessed friends (count them: one) in ecstacy. No, that was it, nothing more. No penis-shaped guns pointing at Struan, no orgys with the blokes from Hefner, no nothing. Just a glance at the newspaper and a phonecall. A bit boring, if you ask me. Has anyone of you heard Nick Caves latest one, that "When the ass saw the angel"- cd? Damn it's scary. First 4 tracks just have NC mumbling bits from the play, and the rest of it is just these creepy instrumental pieces. And I bloody hell have to review it. Dedline is 16th of this month and I have 5 more cd's I have to write about, translate this Ani DiFranco interview and write my Wannadies-interview so I can send it to our editor. Ah well, long hours here at the office for me, it seems. Popular music? I've said this before and I'll say this again: If I had to choose between selling 250 limited edition vinyls with my band "Mobster Lobster", with it's pretty and twee and beautiful and etc. folky music, or selling 2 billion cd's with my europop sideproject "Handbag disco from Hell", there'd be no competition. Money is nice, after all. Kaboom! I'm off. @--->--- Jace le petit. ps: "I Can't Afford This Rock n'roll Lifestyle" will be the name of my autobiography, which will be published in 30 years time, when I've got myself a big cocaine-problem and my 4 kids have all posed for playgirl magazine, telling horrible lies about their youth with the famous "shittiest dad ever!" And my ex-wife has won the lawsuit against me, getting 95 per cent of MY money. Stay tuned for more details. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bertrand.Caron at xxx.se Mon Nov 15 09:58:36 1999 From: Bertrand.Caron at xxx.se (Bertrand Caron) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:58:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: winter in stockholm(suite) References: <19991112043907.22524.rocketmail@web106.yahoomail.com> <19991112234532.28379.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <382FD94C.975C2008@uab.ericsson.se> Johan Nilsson wrote: > > Bertrand wrote how he loves winter in Stockholm. I spent last winter in Stockholm, it was by far the coldest winter I have ever experienced in my life, and I am not talking about how it was constantly -10 degrees outside. > I have to rectify: I never spent a winter in stockholm or even in sweden. I am osed to winter in France in the alpes and this will be my first winter here and I kind of hope that it will be very cold... I know it may sound strange but I want to live a very cold winter at least once in my life. and then he wrote : >Stockholm is one of the coldest cities I know of, when it comes to people. If you don't know anyone in Stockholm, no one will ever start talking to you.> I kind of have to agree on this one. I have spent the spring and summer in Stockholm and I still don't know any swedich people. That's true: No swedich talks to you but I guess it is certainly my fault too. I know some other expats as me but that's all. But I really like Stockholm: I can have access to a lot of cultural things(like in a lot of capitals)(concerts, film festival...) without the stress of most of the capital like London or Paris and finally : > I could never live in Stockholm and that is not because I grew up in an anti-Stockholm society, > I understand what you mean... I grew up in an anti-Paris society... But I never lived there so I am not very sure of how awful life in Paris is... Some of my friend just moved in there and are quite happy about it. OK now I have to leave because I have an appointment to the doctor as I got cold this Week end... That's definitely true: It is damn cold in here. Bertrand: The french in Stockholm +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Mon Nov 15 11:18:48 1999 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:18:48 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Ooh look, it's the Library Lemur Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB6970C3EE@park_ex> Well I've got Sky, and a rather comfortable chaise longue/sofa bed if anyone fancies coming to Cheltenham (not you, Billy). There's a funky northern soul/cool 60s stuff night on next Saturday too. LETS HAVE A PARTY!! C'mon everybody!! I'm rather excited about the whole thing actually, but I don't understand that if it's 3 hours on Sky on Saturday, how come the Channel 4 "highlights" prog is 3 hours too? eh? eh? I do hope it's not extra footage on the Channel 4 one cos that'll mean remembering to set the video on new years eve and then hoping that Y2K doesn't cause my video to explode or mutate into a horrible VHS chewing monster. Oh well, it'll prob'ly just be Fran Healey "jamming" with Weller, McCartney and Gallagher anyway (but wouldn't it be rilly kewl in a rather odd way if it was Struan). Lovely lovely Nick D said: >There was once a terrific song by a band called Airhead went 'Funny >how the >girls you fall in love with never fancy you / funny how the ones you >don't do'. >It predated the crap-breezy-indie-rock craze by several years. Ah yes, Airhead. They were originally called Jefferson Airhead, y'know (vague Hopkins baiting reference). Definitely an early 90s Ooberman. I seem to recall the video featured the band being chased (a la Hard Days Night) by large groups of "ugly girls" (braces, nhs glasses) whilst the "pretty girls" (long blonde hair, no glasses, skinny) swanned around ignoring them. hmm, very suspect. That and my mate who's other two favourite bands were Extreme and Dan Reed Network really liked them. I think thats the thing about musical taste. It's only really through the dreaded teenage years that I found myself disliking people because of their musical taste. In fact I did once split up with a girl through musical differences (oh come on, Whitesnake??). I may dislike people now, but only if they're gits. I may also not like other peoples fave bands, but I'm more likely to just mercilessly rip the piss out of them (always a sign of true friendship IMHO) than stop being their friends. Oh, and another thing. Difficult as it might be to believe but most people don't actually live for music. I know this is a tricky concept, and one me and my friends often have problems getting our heads around. Sample comversation: Mate: She said she'd never been to a gig, *ever* Me: Well, y'know, not everyone goes to see bands twice a week Mate: (surprised) Don't they? Me: No, most people just stay in and watch telly Mate: (very surprised) What? All the time? Me: 'Fraid so You get the picture. xoxo CarsmileSteve oh, I forgot about the lemur, I'll save it for next time +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com Mon Nov 15 11:57:46 1999 From: babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?BabyChris=20Crystalballs?=) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 03:57:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: be good/grannies on buses/package from mick cooke Message-ID: <19991115115746.22507.rocketmail@web1404.mail.yahoo.com> I have a strange addiction...... It's not like i'm totally altruistic, but over the last couple of weeks I got really hooked on helping needy folk. It might sound like cliched garbage, but evryone should do something to help others. It makes you feel all toasty-warm inside. It was a bit sad though, last week, when I was giving food and soup to the homeless folk in george square. There was one kid, who was 14, and he had ran away from home. This might be my naiviety showng, but that really shocked me, and made me realise how lucky I am, because he was just 2 years younger than me. People at school looked at me like I was a freak the next day when I started going around and wishing them a good day. Then I said "how are you" to somebody who I thought was someone else. Then I realised that it wasn't them, and felt really stupid. I hate it when that happens. Grannies are great. They don't give a fuck if people think that they are strange for talking to people they don't know on buses. They just go ahead and do it. So I thought that I'd follow their lead and talk to people on the bus. I did it to some lady, I said, "god, it's bloody cold" and it was, then she looked at me strangely and moved seat. And I HAD showered that morning. I'm getting a package of signed b&s stuff through the mail from mick cooke this week. It's to raffle to pay for some kids from a special school and some yopung carers to go on an activity week that I'm running. I don't know if the people at school will really appreciate a signed b&s t-shirt. So I've also got some other raffle prizes from the popular fray, cause fran healy went to my school and I found out his girlfriends email, and she said that she'd get something sorted out. Then I went to charlene spiteris house, down the road from mine, and she wasn't actually in. I bet she's got a lovely kitchen. I hate scenes. The world would be so much better if they didn't exist. Oh - erica is obnoxious. How does she know my name? Babychris Crystalballs using puctuation makes you look smart :;@'#~()|?>,.£" Theres much more that I should say, but I can never remember it all. i WILL REGRET SENDING THIS. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Poppixxie at xxx.com Mon Nov 15 04:27:13 1999 From: Poppixxie at xxx.com (Poppixxie at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 23:27:13 EST Subject: Sinister: fonzie says it "ain't" over until the matador something or other Message-ID: <0.30c24ed3.2560e5a1@aol.com> good evening all...... wow, i'm wathcing happy days right now and it is amazingly wonderful. i love it quite a bit, especially richie cunnigham- he's sooo cute. and this is one of those great episodes that laverne and shirley guest starred. shlameal, shlamal, hossenfefer incorporated. yeah go! alright, well fiona, i completely agree with your comment on autumn and it's loneliness. i think autumn is so very romantic and finding myself alone once again it makes me quite depressed- making albums such as cat power and elliot smith the official shawnee leaf-turning-falling-and-raking season soundtrack. speaking of cat power......ugh. i had the single worst experience going to see them last night. aside from of montreal and belle sebastian and perhaps bis....okay no i was about tell a lie. i was going to say aside from the aforementioned bands cat power was truly the only concert i have desperately wanted to see. i would then have to proceed with listing every concert i've ever seen, aside from new kids on the block but i was only 11 or so. anyhow. this girl that i really didn't want to go was invited by my dear friend stefan called a half-hour after the time we were supposed to have left my house and said that she was about a half-hour past my house and had gotten herself lost. she ended up not coming but it presented delay number one. delay numver two came when we were trapped in traffic entering the holland tunnel. i estimate this delay to have been around 45 minutes. arse-buggy traffic! following or more like during the traffic delay i accidently ran a red-stop light and a mean nasty little cop yelled at me and handed me a negative seventy-seven dollar ticket. disgust and delay numero third! we finally get to the knitting factory an hour late and the concert had been sold out for an hour and a half. so i didn't get to see my lovely darling little chan. so if anyone could possibly get in touch with ms. marshall tell her that i love her and i need to see her perform live and yes! more interesting things but this post is once again so beyond long! love and kookiness abound, shawnee +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.edu Mon Nov 15 06:12:42 1999 From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 01:12:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Adam's Curse Message-ID: This is what Kevin Parker wrote a few days ago: Anyway i gave her a call and she told me she had "Big News" and she told me all about her first boyfriend who is a Downs boy called Jamie and how happy she was well her vocabulary is a little limited so my mother helped her out. Anyway I have always wanted her to have as normal, whatever the fuck that is, life as possible and so i had this double realisation that she may go through all the things that make the rest of us who we are and that she is growing up etc. Anyway so all this was pretty moving and i was on the train going back to my apartment with rather moist eyes because i was so happy for her, but also I was a little bit upset because I am no longer the most important male in her life, which is a good thing but a little difficult to deal with at first, and i put my walkman on and i had forgotten what i was listening to before and it was " TIGERMILK" well to be specific " I Dont love anyone " and there was that line about " except maybe my sister...maybe my baby brother too" and I thought what a self involved twat I am sometimes thinking about the mess I make of relationships and that love doesnt exist its a "finely tuned jealousy" or whatever, sometimes a little naivity really does help put things in perspective. Um, Kevin if you happen to read this, I hope I'm not embarrassing you by writing this, but this is the sort of thing that makes people beautiful. This makes me believe that love exists. It's too bad that everything isn't beautiful at once, or we can't see it that way, but that's where the poem "Adam's Curse" fits in. I'm glad that Nick Dastoor upholds romance, but when he says things like this: There was once a terrific song by a band called Airhead went 'Funny how the girls you fall in love with never fancy you / funny how the ones you don't do'. It predated the crap-breezy-indie-rock craze by several years. Thinking about it, Airhead are a perfect example of the artless product of a people who aren't artists. And that's why we can all relate to it so well. Cuz you know it *is* funny how the girls you fall in love with never fancy you. And you know what's SO IRONIC - how the ones you don't DO. Sheesh! I'm not so sure I believe him because isn't this a milder version of what he questioned Owen about? Doesn't it become a fiendish power struggle because we think this way? Isn't what Nick writes the precursor of questions like "Who likes who more?" within relationships? Did sheep come up because we are blinded by our love for Belle & Sebastian? One thing that disturbs me a bit is the new tone that Stuart Murdoch takes in his writing. Disturbs is too strong. But if he wrote the sleeve notes for "Tigermilk", the way he writes, the person he is, has changed. Both sides still come up. The end of his bit on the Belle & Sebastian page was the older him, but why did he spend so much time describing Mr. Funai? Was it in recognition of the fact that he himself had grown older and that his behavior had become more commonplace? Or had his view of the world grown larger to incorporate characters like Mr. Funai as worth writing about in their own right? And in his latest piece for the Glasgow University Guardian, there was the part with cool narration - Jack Daniels and Foxy, and then phrases like "the frisson of pre-match joy". But why go so far to the other extreme as "cunting"? I hope the excesses in that direction are just a phase, like having to reject Nick Drake's work on account of all the comparisons. Yesterday morning I watched "Jules and Jim" again cos no one else was up yet and one of my housemates had checked it out from the library. It would be dangerous for a girl or woman to imagine herself as Catherine. The sort of thing recounted in "Minor Character", a Lloyd Cole & the Commotions song on "Easy Pieces". I used to be guilty of this, but my aspirations only went so far as the be the woman in "Minor Character". Jules actually upstages her. He's noble. There's a scene where Catherine reaches over Jules when they are in bed to answer the phone. There's a scene in "Scenes from a Marriage" where the wife reaches over the husband (I forget the characters' names) to turn off the alarm clock. These are the scenes of intimacy I love. In the beginning of "L'amour l'apres-midi" (a film by Rohmer), the husband is sitting on the sofa cutting the pages of a book, and he remarks on the pleasure of reading in the presence of his wife. Each person being able to do their own thing but secure in the presence of the other. And the song "Kooks" by David Bowie. I love any song that mentions dropping out of school or throwing homework on the fire. Stuart David's songs may seem naive, but in a way they are not. I discovered this poem from a record that my high school English teacher had of a college professor of his reading poetry. He went to a Calvinist college, so the professor read with the intonation of a minister. The poem is by Yeats. "Adam's Curse" We sat together at one summer's end, That beautiful mild woman, your close friend, And you and I, and talked of poetry. I said, "A line will take us hours maybe; Yet if it does not seem a moment's thought, Our stitching and unstitching has been naught. Better go down upon your marrow-bones And scrub a kitchen pavement, or break stones Like an old pauper, in all kinds of weather; For to articulate sweet sounds together Is to work harder than all these, and yet Be thought an idler by the noisy set Of bankers, schoolmasters, and clergymen The martyrs call the world." And thereupon That beautiful mild woman for whose sake There's many a one shall find out all heartache On finding that her voice is sweet and low Replied, "To be born woman is to know - Although they do not talk of it at school - That we must labor to be beautiful." I said, "It's certain there is no find thing Since Adam's fall but needs much laboring. There have been lovers who thought love should be So much compounded of high courtesy That they would sigh and quote with learned looks Precedents out of beautiful old books; Yet now it seems an idle trade enough." We sat grown quiet at the name of love; We saw the last embers of daylight die, And in the trembling blue-green of the sky A moon, worn as if it had been a shell Washed by time's waters as they rose and fell About the stars and broke in days and years. I had a thought for no one's but your ears: That you were beautiful, and that I strove To love you in the old high way of love; That it had all seemed happy, and yet we'd grown As weary-hearted as that hollow moon. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From messentw at xxx.uk Mon Nov 15 10:06:19 1999 From: messentw at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?William=20Messent?=) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:06:19 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: You Could Have Walked Away With £4,000... Message-ID: <19991115100619.4965.rocketmail@web303.mail.yahoo.com> Who dat? Well I managed to emerge from my self-imposed hibernation during 'Who Wants To Be A Millionaire' fortnight on Friday and GO OUT! To a NIGHT CLUB! To have fun with one person I know quite well and a bunch of people I had never met before in my entire life. It was a well cheesy club (deffo no B&S on the playlist, although I think they played Salako. Or was it Moloko?), and I really went because a good friend of mine has recently started dancing there (not *that* type of dancing, it was all above board). Anyway I realised about halfway through the night that everyone was ON DRUGS! Apart from me. They all were 'on' 'coke' and 'ecstasy' like I thought only happened on 'telly'. Are they stoners? I don't know. When the penny dropped and I realised why I was the only one drinking, I managed to resist my impulse to spit my beer out in a well-known comedy style and shout "But that's illegal!" I sort of wish I'd done it now. I saw the DKNY girl the other day. She came round to mine and told me to vote for 'Gregory's Girl' in some film poll or other, but I'm not sure which poll she meant. I think she'd been drinking. Anyway, I've never seen 'Gregory's Girl'. I'm more of a 'Turner & Hooch' man. I made a right nob of myself in the bookies on Saturday. Because the BBC were showing the Scotland-England game at 4:00, I assumed it kicked off at that time. I went into William Hill at about 2:45, spent a good quarter of an hour filling out the betting sheet, then sauntered up to the counter only to be looked at blankly and told that the game had kicked off at 2:00 and it was half-time. Arses. Somebody came up with a sweary title for the new B&S LP recently and I liked it. But then I always like songs with cursing in them. I like it when Elliott Smith swears on 'XO' and when Stuart sings 'No-one likes a smart-arse' on 'I Know Where The Summer Goes'. And I giggled all the way through my new Ol' Dirty Bastard LP. If I ever release a greatest hits album in my life I hereby vow to call it 'Beerish Hits'. And if any members of Belle and Sebastian are reading this, I've got a copyright on that bastard, OK? My lawyers are watching, Love Will x ===== Visit The Remote Viewer homepage http://www.members.tripod.com/remoteviewer/ ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Mon Nov 15 13:27:29 1999 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 13:27:29 -0000 Subject: Sinister: A bus story (hooray!) Message-ID: *Whoops! Ducks another flying email.* There's a positive bombardment of them today. Forty-nine when I turned on the computer, and they mostly seem to be from different people. Hmm, maybe something's happened. I'll read on. *Ouch!* That's fifty. It's like having a picnic in the middle of the Campdown Races. After discovering my new found status as a "laydee" strange things have started happening. I went on a bus the other day and the bus driver was the most charming man you could imagine, asking me where I wanted to go and wishing me an enjoyable trip, then singing Sinatra and Elvis songs all the way to town. As I left the bus he actually thanked me FOUR times. Thankyou, ta da, thanks a lot, toodle doodle... And people keep looking at me funny. I find it rather arousing. Especially with these moustachioed men. Ouch, I've just broken a nail. Typical. "Scruffy P" said: > Hello ... I'm new Hello, "Scruffy P" I can't really cope with all these emails actually, but I've just read that one from Mick, and the latest page of the band diary, so I'll have to just miss my lunch and go hungry I'm afraid. Things sound quite exciting "up Stuart's alley". I like the use of the word "cunting" too. It has a nice, warm sound to it. I wonder what it means. Argh! Bollocks! The 20th is Saturday and I'm supposed to be going home for the weekend to see my mum and dad who I haven't seen in ages. But we haven't got Sky at home so now I feel really guilty because I want to stay here. I'll get my housemates to record it, on pain of death. So no-one here's allowed to mention it until I've seen it, okay? It'll be like The Likely Lads on cup final day all over again. Aren't Carsmile Steve's wedding photos lovely. I had hours of fun trying to work out which of the guests were for the bride and which were for the groom. Try it yourselves. It's fun. Me And The Major Are Depressed is a very funny song title. My cousin Andrew is in the army and he's going to become a major soon. He's doing a course at the moment which means he has to do lots of scary army things like clean his shoes EVERY DAY. You konw, if he does become a major, I think we could become close friends. Gaah, I really have to go and eat a sandwich. There's not much to me as it is. I'm wasting away. 'rockin' Robin xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From BradWhiddon at xxx.com Mon Nov 15 05:57:49 1999 From: BradWhiddon at xxx.com (BradWhiddon at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 00:57:49 EST Subject: Sinister: everybody supermarket Message-ID: <0.5f88217d.2560fadd@aol.com> i'm back after a lengthy delay away from all these sinister shenanigans. i've been out on tour with limp bizkit (three dollar bill ya'll...) in da house!!! and not to mention those wacky funsters insane clown posse. i've got some juicy gossip on some of those guys, but more on that later. the list was getting really crowded when last i was on. how is it now? i guess i'll find out for myself tomorrow when i get the first batch of messages. i checked the list crush site. you bunch of fucking turncoats. as soon as i'm gone you lose all admiration for me. i thought we had something going. so, is tag and duke and what's-his-face still around? hey, honey. i'm living in athens now, and, off the subject, stereolab kicked some serious behind last night, if anyone else was there....but anyway i'm in athens now for all you sex starved kittens who want to give me a booty call. grrrrrr! -brad +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vlass at xxx.com Mon Nov 15 13:57:22 1999 From: vlass at xxx.com (vlass at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:57:22 -0500 Subject: Sinister: ====== Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19991115135722.00a4d148@mail.interlog.com> like what steve c. said, >No offense to anyone on the list, but I find it ludicrous that because >someone listens to the Velvet Underground, their opinions are more highly >respected than the Rod Stewart fan. yeah, you know, this reminds me of the part in that "high fidelity" book when the lead boy goes over with his girlfriend to her friends' house. they all end up having a lovely time, talking and what have you, and then at the end of the night his girlfriend shows him their record collection. they do indeed have a very un-indie un-cool collection, but *gasp*, he realizes that music is not the only determining factor in What is Cool and What is Not. although, someone who loves belle and sebastian is probably inherently cooler than average. ho ho. anyway, i remember the thread about this book being turned into a movie, and with someone from the list actually working on the movie, and with belle and sebastian being on the soundtrack to this aforementioned movie. so yes. what song is it going to be anyway? time to rule the school, teri xx /// new/old: http://weatherpattern.tripod.com \\\ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Mon Nov 15 14:09:35 1999 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 14:09:35 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Adam's Curse Message-ID: <8025682A.004DCA11.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> Hello again... >I'm glad that Nick Dastoor upholds romance, but when he says things like >this: > >>There was once a terrific song by a band called Airhead went 'Funny how the >>girls you fall in love with never fancy you / funny how the ones you don't do'. >>It predated the crap-breezy-indie-rock craze by several years. Thinking about >>it, Airhead are a perfect example of the artless product of a people who aren't >>artists. And that's why we can all relate to it so well. Cuz you know it *is* >>funny how the girls you fall in love with never fancy you. And you know what's >>SO IRONIC - how the ones you don't DO. Sheesh! > >I'm not so sure I believe him because isn't this a milder version of what >he questioned Owen about? Doesn't it become a fiendish power struggle >because we think this way? Isn't what Nick writes the precursor of >questions like "Who likes who more?" within relationships No no - I'm being entirely consistent, Youn. I like consistency - it allows me to chart the limits of my small mind. Let me make it quite clear - I don't think Airhead's 'Funny How' is a terrific song at all. I was taking the piss. It's fundamentally irritating in the way it invites the audience to nod their heads in recognition of its asinine home-spun truths. And yet... it's curiously interesting because whenever I catch myself lapsing into the crass mode of thought that characterises the song, it allows me stop and think "Whoops - I might as well be singing Airhead's 'Funny How'!" . That's what I was trying to get at with the bit about artlessness. I'm taking all this far too seriously, of course, which is why I couched the paragraph in 'jokey' sarcasm. I'll shut up now. Steve C (who I will always think of as Walkn10, one of those email addresses that appears to bear no relation to the owner's name. I'm sure he could enlighten me. But it might take me a while for me to understand - this is someone who only recently realised that 'Archel' was subtle corruption of 'Rachel'. Don't laugh. And what was that about Andy Dean's address? I still haven't worked it out) was spot-on about how obscurock snobbery is a load of old cack. Trying to be cool through having records that noone else has is a loser's game. Especially when it come's to rediscovering 'pop's forgotten classics'. I mean a few years ago it might have been 'interesting' to have own Nick Drake or Big Star records. But now everyone's at it. So you move onto Free Design. That's a cliche on Sinister already and the rest of the world can't be far behind. You end up having to make bands up. >No offense to anyone on the list, but I find it ludicrous that because >someone listens to the Velvet Underground, their opinions are more highly >respected than the Rod Stewart fan. Well indeed. But I reckon that in fact, it's a lot *less* mainstream to be into Rod than the Velvet Underground. His 'early, good stuff' at least. C'mon - if someone sent you a tape with 'I'm Waiting for the Man' on, you'd groan. But some choice cut from 'Every Picture Tells A Story' - now this is someone who clearly knows their stuff. Unless you've already got it. In which case, you might need to find decent something off 'Night on the Town' in order to impress. This is still rock snobbery, of course. Just a more hard-working take on it. I still think about a girl at university who thought it was a bit odd when she saw that I'd just bought a Beach Boys record. I think it might even have been some of their 'early, shit stuff'. It can't have been long before it seeped into her consciousness that indie-kids liking the Beach Boys is far from unusual. Nickie D, upholding romance since 1973 xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dunca_chap at xxx.com Mon Nov 15 14:42:24 1999 From: dunca_chap at xxx.com (Adam Chapman) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 14:42:24 GMT Subject: Sinister: blah! Message-ID: <19991115144225.40152.qmail@hotmail.com> Apologies for the quality of subject line, there have been somegood ones around... Well hello there. We'll take the "I love autumn" thing as read for the mean time, on my part at least,though I do, especially those beautiful, sunny, cloudless days you only ever get around mid-October in Britain, when theres leaves on the ground and they haven't quite lost their crunch as you walk through them. Never quite got the same warm feelings about the prospect of winter though, perhaps because where i live, it never does it properly. Sure, it gets cold, but it hardly ever snows to last more than a day or so and unless you like freezing fog and aggressive rain i can find little to recommend it. That and at least autumn is properly defined, that is you can tell when it begins and ends which is different from all the other seasons that just blend together kind of seamlessly. I think B+S fit inmore with a time of day than a time of year, say mid to late afternoon at home when you can lean back a little and listen... I'm not really sure where i stand on the obscure v. mainstream [who loves music more?], debate as it strikes me at first as rather pointless being as it is somewhat subjectve in its very nature. The way i view it, most of the music i like is vaguely obscure, it doesn't mean i love it more for this reason, it just signifies that less people share my musical taste - not always a plus, i have to explain what everything sounds like [citing influences people haven't heard of], and find this a little trying sometimes, though again this isn't because of peoples' lack of love, merely their lack of curiosity. It also hinges on how you define love - at least, love as it relates to musical expression/identification which for quite a few people i know borders on obcession. I haven't got an answer, not even much of an opinion so i shall end my ramblings here. Adam 'If you can't make them think, at least make them sing...' ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Mon Nov 15 14:29:01 1999 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 14:29:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The back of my ears don't stink Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19991115142901.00730efc@ampsys.co.uk> Hello, This entry from Mr Carsmile Steve indeed made me smile: >In fact I did once split up with a girl through musical >differences (oh come on, Whitesnake??). I once thought I'd live under the rule that no one girl was worth the trouble if she couldn't name at least one Family Cat single. In fact I probably do, which would explain me being very Family Cat single. I did have to literally fight off the attentions of a married women in a very strange night last Friday, and if only then I'd thought to say OK but only if you name the first single by the Family Cat off their last album... it would have been a wonderful excuse indeed. I'm afraid I've been careless with my CD's this week and lost the CD despite still having the case of the latest Stereolab offering. Which is quite frustrating, I know it's brown in case anyone's found it. That is usually the best thing about CD's as you can be quite careless without damaging them unlike my warped, scratched vinyl collection. Despite treasuring the music that is realised through putting these round things into or on a musical playing device, I still seem to treat them like shit. Even if the means to record musical performances had not been invented yet, and the band members actually had to come and play in my bedroom when I wanted to hear their tunes, I still reckon I'd still be careless with them. I wouldn't even make Belle & Sebastian a cup of tea or give them a Jaffa Cake for their troubles before letting Arab Strap start playing their songs. Actually no, I'm still old fashioned and not into that large bearded chap coming into my bedroom and talking about shagging. Sorry this is becoming very long winded, but I've also been thinking about why people get told to make sure they wash behind their ears before having a bath or shower. I'm pretty sure there's a lot of body parts and areas that get a lot smellier and dirtier than the back of my ears, and therefore a lot higher in my pecking order of getting a rub from a soapy flannel. But let's not even go there. Actually maybe I'll take some photos for Honey's new section of my top ten dirty, smelly bits. That'll be pleasant. Or we could all vote for our top ten dirty smelly bits of 1999. Or I could leave quietly... Te ra, Martin ear confection recordings (http://www.send.demon.co.uk) - two new bands songs on there!! P.S Actually I'm starting the ear thingy recordings mailing list. And unless some of you say you want to be on it your all going on it. It's a bit like at school where the whole clsss is kept behind for detention till the guilty party owns up. Or something. Right, I'm off for a shower... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Mon Nov 15 15:34:19 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:34:19 -0000 Subject: Sinister: You got it - keep it out of my face Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22A2DF48@SERVER1> Fuck autumn. Spring Roolz. Apparently, last week, not even a 3rd of the leaves in Britain had fallen. British Rail RIP told us this in order to prepare for the "wrong type of leaves on the line" excuses that they come up with every year. The good news, for Adam at least, is that there are plenty more crunchy days left this year! Yay! I'm a bit baffled by the new-look take-no-prisoners Nickie Dastoor and his slagging of Free Design. Haven't we moved a little bit beyond liking bands just because everyone else on Sinister likes them? I didn't even realise this is something that happens. But (if I'm understanding this rightly) hey, they're a Sinister cliché now so don't even bother checking them out. Nick, isn't your argument getting self-defeating - the only difference being the bands we're not allowed to like rather than the ones we all should? I think I must just not be getting this cos Nick is a far brighter being than I am and I'm sure I'm missing something. Nalda Said was reviewed in this morning's Metro newspaper. It got 2 out of 5, and StuD's "faux-naïve" style was described as cloying, or something similar. I must admit I don't find it a surprise. Having said that, Y2K and Baby One More Time have been competing for irritating-song-on-loop-in-head space today, which is a recommendation. After six months of listening to Classic FM in the morning, I thought I'd re-check out XFM. God it's fucking shit. It gets worse. The only plus is that attention-deficit-disorder sufferer, Helen Chamberlain, is a fellow Torquay United fan. Which makes me, according to footballing analogies of recent days, pretty fucking devoted to my football. Goths. There is a photo of me in existence wearing...no, I can't bring myself to say it. I've never actually seen said photo. I live in fear of the day it gets out... I think cunting is a great word. It seems to me Stuart's just being normal and human and LIKE US in his diary posts, but I admit I'm probably being (faux) naïve on that one. Still, it makes me happy to believe it, so I will. Finally. All bigots are wrong. Full stop. Is that okay? Big Fat Markx p.s. Kate Rusby (+ Billy Bragg) - 14/15 December (I think), Forum Kentish Town. Who's with me? ******************************************************************* The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.cullen at xxx.com Mon Nov 15 15:57:47 1999 From: p.cullen at xxx.com (Paula Cullen) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:57:47 -0000 Subject: Sinister: we are young, heartache to heartache; we stand, no promises, no demands. Message-ID: <01BF2F82.2A423820.p.cullen@music-control.com> friends, romans and countrymen, steve c and nick dastoor said: "Rod Stewart" and i shouted with joy. (inwardly of course) i cuntin' looove Roddy, (and not just for the fleeting period where he *may* have been considered cool, either). so much so that i travelled overseas to see him last year. this honour has, so far, been reserved only for the likes of Belle and Sebastian and, erm, well, Ocean Colour Scene but i have *almost* completely erased that from my memory at this stage... so last december, my good self and a chum travelled to london town and *immersed* ourselves in The Magical World Of Rod Stewart, where bad taste is good taste, tartan scarves are THE last word in fashion and ALL the women look like a curious hybrid of Joe Elliot and Pat Butcher from Eastenders. bliss..... ************************************************************************** i was watching "stylissimo" on mtv yesterday. they played a looper song as background music on one of the features. i always knew stuey david was the new black. before we know it, he'll be on the cover of italian "vogue", revealing his left nipple, no doubt. (i'm sorry if i've left any of you with a mental picture that you'd rather not have....) keep on rockin' in the twee world, paula cullen booze explosion booooze!!!! yeeeaaahh!!! "getting beer poured over your head isn't necessarily a bad thing. it's cold, it's good for your hair, and it makes you smell like a champ." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Mon Nov 15 16:48:55 1999 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:48:55 +0000 Subject: Sinister: You got it - keep it out of my face Message-ID: <8025682A.005C620D.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> >I'm a bit baffled by the new-look take-no-prisoners Nickie Dastoor and his >slagging of Free Design. Haven't we moved a little bit beyond liking bands >just because everyone else on Sinister likes them? I didn't even realise >this is something that happens. But (if I'm understanding this rightly) hey, >they're a Sinister cliché now so don't even bother checking them out. Nick, >isn't your argument getting self-defeating - the only difference being the >bands we're not allowed to like rather than the ones we all should? I seem to be confusing a lot of people of late. Not least myself. I'm pretty sure I wasn't saying what Mark thinks I was, though. I think The Free Design are GREAT. Neither am I suggesting that anyone on Sinister is pretending to like them just because so many other people do. I was just making reference to their status as one of those previously obscure bands that through tapes and recommendations have become popular with a lot of people quite rapidly. People like them because they like them. Why so many people? I don't know - they obviously appeal to a lot of the same people as Belle and Sebastian appeal to. If I use the phrase 'overlapping aesthetics' please don't think I'm a big ponce who is suggesting that Belle and Sebastian fans all base their musical tastes on some book of P!O!P! rules. Although if anyone has a copy of the Big Book of P!O!P! Rules, I'd love to borrow it. What I *was* saying was that having records by them is not half as 'cool' as it once was, because so many people seem to have them these days. I'm not using 'cool' to men 'good' - I'm using it in the 'pop snob' sense (and pop snobbery is, I think we all agree, A BAD THING, even if I wouldn't deny that I am guilty of yielding to its charms myself). To me, pop snobbery is all about being proud of having records that no one else has. Not about having records that everyone in some youth subculture (eg indie kids) *does* have, which is what some people seem to have been implying. Props to Martin for admitting his 'Family Cat' dating rule, though. >I think I must just not be getting this cos Nick is a far brighter being >than I am and I'm sure I'm missing something. You sweetie you. Sorry for not shutting up now like I said I would do before. The new-look take-no-prisoners Nickie Dastoor xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com Mon Nov 15 17:21:17 1999 From: sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com (GEORGE DICKIE) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:21:17 PST Subject: Sinister: IS THAT A PIECE OF MOZ IN YOUR POCKET OR ARE YOU JUST PLEASED TO SEE ME Message-ID: <19991115172118.42106.qmail@hotmail.com> MMMMMMMMMM HELLO I'M BACK FROM MY MOZ TOUR I WILL GO THROUGH IT QUICK MMMMM THERE IS SOME B&S CONTENT SO STAY WITH IT MMMMM ETC GO I WENT TO THE NOTTINGHAM GIG 1ST GIG IN DA UK IT WAS SUPER BOOM BOOM MOZ WAS HAPPY AND LOOKING GOOD WITH IT MMM THE NEXT DAY I HAD TO GO BACK HOME (WOLVES) TO SIGN ON THE DOLE I MAY BE ON THE DOLE BUT IT IS WHO YOU ARE NOT WHAT YOU DO THAT MATTERS MMM THAT'S WHAT I KEEP TELLING MYSELF MMMMMMMMMM ANYWAY AFTER THAT I WENT TO LEEDS FEELING DIRTY AS I HAD NO TIME TO GO HOME AND CLEAN ETC THE LEEDS GIG WAS JUST AS GOOD THE BEST BIT BEING I GOT A PIECE OF HIS WEST HAM BOYS CLUB T-SHIRT THAT HE THREW INTO THE CROWD I KEEP IT IN MY POCKET NOW AND AGAIN I PUT MY HAND (SORRY HONEY NO PICTURES)IN AND DREAM AFTER THE LEEDS GIG THERE WAS THIS MOZ/SMITHS CLUB NIGHT IT WAS IN THIS SMALL CLUB DOWN THESE STAIRS (LE PHONO) IT WAS PURE 3HOURS MOZ/SMITHS MMMMMMM JOY I KEPT THINKING IT WAS LIKE WHEN THE JEWS WENT INTO THOSE SHOWERS THAT WERE REALLY GAS CHAMBERS I THOUGHT ANY MOMENT NOW THE GAS WILL BE SET FREE AND I WILL DIE IT WAS PURE LOVE EVERYONE DANCING MMMM A GUY WHO LOOKED/ DANCED VERY MUCH LIKE MOZ CAME OVER TO ME IT WAS LIKE THE REAL THING COMING OVER HE JUST SPOKE IN MY EAR AND SAID "I SPOKE TO STUART MURDOCH AT THE STAR AND GARTER PUB THE OTHER DAY" MMM YOU SEE I WAS WEARING A B&S T-SHIRT I COULDN'T THINK OF WHAT TO SAY I JUST SAID "OH RIGHT" HE JUST LEFT LIKE THE LITTLEST HOBO HE WAS AMAZING JUST A SHAME HE WASN'T A LASSIE MMMMMM PUPPY LOVE MMMMMMM I HATE IT WHEN YOU CAN'T THINK OF THINGS TO SAY MMMMM BASICALLY THAT WAS THAT I COULD SAY MORE BUT I WON'T MY TOP 10 TEEN FILMS LIST HAS NOT YET GOT ON THE B&S SITE MMMMMMMMMM DAM ETC HOLD ON MMMMMM THANKS FOR ALL THE KIND WORDS PEOPLE HAVE HAD 4 ME ETC THE CAPS LOCK THING IS NOT ME SHOUTING I'M A SHY CLAM SOFT FLUFFY TYPE THIS IS SHOUTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OK *********************************************************** SOME DAYS I WAKE UP AND WANT TO WEAR A BADGE THAT SAYS "I'M ALIVE I'M JUST PRETENDING TO BE DEAD" OTHER DAYS I WANT TO WEAR A BADGE THAT SAYS "I'M DEAD I'M JUST PRETENDING TO BE ALIVE" BUT MOST DAYS I WAKE AND WANT TO WEAR A BADGE THAT SAYS "I'M ALIVE PLEASE TALK TO ME" (TO ALL THE USA PEOPLE A BADGE IS WHAT U CALL A BUTTON) ************************************************************ YER RIGHT I'LL LEAVE IT HERE I WON'T TALK ABOUT MOZ FOR A WHILE NOW I DON'T WANT TO BE KNOWN AS THE BOY WHO'S ALWAYS.............. YOU GET THE POINT MMM NOT SURE WHAT I'LL TALK ABOUT NEXT TIME MAYBE I'LL START SOME B&S RUMORS DID YOU KNOW THAT ONE OF THE SONG'S ON THE NEW B&S LP IS CALLED *BUNNY RABBIT FABLES* IT IS SUNG BY ISOBEL I HEAR THAT SHE DRESSED UP AS A BUNNY AND GOT INTO A RABBITS HUTCH TO SING THE SONG TO GIVE IT AN AUTHENTIC FEEL SARAH TOOK A PHOTO OF THIS MOMENT AND IT WAS GOING TO BE USED AS A XMAS CARD FOR ALL US B&S FANS HOWEVER THIS WILL NOT GO AHEAD NOW AS SARAH IS AFRAID ANNE GEDDES MAY TAKE OUT LEGAL ACTION http://www.trulyyours.com/AGeddesP.htm GO HERE TO SEE ANNE'S WORK MMMMMMMMMMM THIS WHOLE MESSAGE HAS BEEN TOOOOO LONG I'M VERY SORRY LOVE AND SPOOKY DREAMS GEORGE HENRY DICKIE ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wilska at xxx.net Mon Nov 15 17:23:29 1999 From: wilska at xxx.net (Emily Wilska) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:23:29 -0800 Subject: Sinister: level as a lake beneath the moon Message-ID: <15AAE0EBDCC9D1119FFA00805F85642E04FBC5F9@WNI-MSG-02> Allo allo. Although this phase has probably long passed, I wanted to add my two cents vis-a-vis fave B&S moments. I'd vote for those little bits of songs in which SM drags out what he's singing: "...and he thinks it's a sin that he has to leave the house at aaaaaaaaallllll," "...dream of ho-o-o-o-o-o-o-orses," etc. There's probably some musical-type term for that, but I don't know it. Also, the line "Oh love of mine, would you condescend to help me, for I'm stupid and blind" in "The State That I Am In" never fails to blow me away with it's sharp and bitter edges. Right. Dan Hooper wrote of California's pseudo-Autumn, which I'd agree with for the most part. However, I was up in northern Sonoma county yesterday, and I must say that things are certainly more fall-like up there. The grape leaves turn all sorts of crazy colors, and the play of sun and fog causes some crazy light effects, making everything look like a big gentle explosion of gold and red and green. It settled my inner East Coaster to see it. Being warmed inside by all sorts of fabulous wines didn't hurt, either. Our Sister of Perpetual Disco wrote, >>Some time ago, I unsubscribed from the Beepster news list because I didn't want to get it anymore. Wishful thinking. But it's quite good now. Every time it comes through, its ponytail has grown.<< which made me nearly choke on the sip of coffee trying to make its way down my throat. Unable to stand the wondering anymore, I bought a Godspeed You, Black Emperor! cd last night. It is the soundtrack to a long drive on lonely roads near dusk, rain coming, and I dig it a lot. Off to work I go-- Emily +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andrea.ware at xxx.com Mon Nov 15 18:24:05 1999 From: andrea.ware at xxx.com (foxinthesnow) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:24:05 -0800 Subject: Sinister: garp a gut Message-ID: funny thing, i just started reading vonnegut's 'cat's cradle' last night, before reading the posting about 'touching humor,' i think it was. i am happy to know i am not the only garp fan. (not that there is anything wrong with that...) but i was happy to read other people's responses to it. i just think its great how john irving really deals with every subject in such a thorough way. did i spell that right? andrea get your free gURLmAIL at http://www.gURLmAIL.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From untitled at xxx.com Mon Nov 15 18:33:51 1999 From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 13:33:51 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian and NEW SONGS on The Tube Message-ID: <199911151334_MC2-8D1E-6B58@compuserve.com> Ah, finally something interesting to write about. Why don't you all go here: http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/19991115165518.html I think you'll find it interesting. Rob +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From glam_girl2000 at xxx.com Mon Nov 15 18:48:46 1999 From: glam_girl2000 at xxx.com (secret crush) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 13:48:46 EST Subject: Sinister: another introduction Message-ID: <19991115184847.2496.qmail@hotmail.com> hello one and all. this is my first post & an introduction. since there's already a heather on the list, i need to distinguish myself as heather e. heather e. can be described as a short brunette with long eyelashes, a special affection for platform shoes, & tendencies towards loss of memory & road rage. i live in allentown, pa...smack in the middle of n.y.c. & philly. the philly scene makes me giggle to myself. there are tons of young indie music snobs, which i sometimes enjoy, but these types are also fashion snobs. if you're not one of them you aren't anyone, i guess. i sometimes masquerade around town in my black horn-rimmed glasses, faux fur-trimed jacket, super-short miniskirt & "insert the latest underground band here" t-shirt & buy records by the jets & debbie gibson just to throw them off. sometimes things are the funniest when you're the only one laughing. anyway, all trickery aside, i like what i've seen of this list so far. it's nice to be in the company of people who use their brains & express their own opinions, not just repeat those of others. rock on. love, heather e. p.s. i forgot to mention the gorgeous band that led me here in the first place...my favorite song, today anyway, is "get me away from here, i'm dying" & my favorite lyric is from "the rollercoaster ride" & it goes a little something like this...'take judy with her bow and arrow, she's a mastermind/too frumpy for the teenage population of her kind.' p.p.s. hey shawnee, i have only one thing to say to you...rock the boat, don't rock the boat, baby; rock the boat, don't tip the boat over. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nelle at xxx.se Mon Nov 15 20:14:06 1999 From: nelle at xxx.se (Ellen =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jernstr=F6m?=) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 21:14:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: changes Message-ID: <38306987.CB85AA29@hem.passagen.se> darlings - hefner are playing in stockholm wednesday. but i'm leaving for london wednesday. do i hear someone laughing up above? =) my favourite song of the week isn't a b&s song. it's pulp, "something's changed". it's something about those lyrics: "i wrote this song two hours before we met i didn't know your name or what you looked like yet oh, i could have stayed at home and gone to bed i could have gone to see a film instead you might have changed your mind and seen your friend life could have been very different but then something changed" it's like that, it really is. life changes and you, of course, never know it will. until it has. *euhm..* *love* /ellen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jimgrund at xxx.fr Mon Nov 15 21:03:28 1999 From: jimgrund at xxx.fr (Jan Imgrund) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 22:03:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Adam's Curse In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <199911152103.WAA10004@front5m.grolier.fr> hi > and she told me all about her first boyfriend > who is a Downs boy called Jamie and how happy she was > well her vocabulary is a little limited so my mother > helped her out. Anyway I have always wanted her to > have as normal, whatever the fuck that is, life as > possible i've been working at a school for mentally disabled people during my civil service, and i was surprised to see how exactly the same their love-life was compared to 'normal' kids of their age.. love, heartbreak, jealousy, it's all there. it seems more natural and heartfelt in them though.. seeing one of those boys look at 'his' girl with this look of warm affection - when the rest of the world dismisses both as stupid and ugly - is wonderful. >>the husband is sitting on the sofa cutting the pages of a book,<< am i mistaken, or is france one of the last countries where books with uncut pages are sold in larger amounts? it's a great thing. Makes you feel that the book really belongs to you when you personally cut the pages. there's even one french author (julien gracq) who insits on printing all his books uncut. a good chap he is. >>That's true: No swedich talks to you << hey, that's odd. i always thought swedes were so warm and welcoming. i guess that it's more because of the big city.. it was rather hard to get to know anyone in paris at first, too, and i know that people are a lot nicer in the rest of france. >>I am not very sure of how awful life in Paris is...<< but apart of this, it's great :) you just need some time to get the hang of it. I think the problem with living in big cities for a longer time is that you are horrified at the thought of one day having to live in a city with less than 3 million people again, which kinda reduces the choice if you want to change countries.. big cities are addictive. You feel dead when you leave them. That's probably the reason they grow bigger and bigger, ha ha. time has gone, the song is over, thought of something more to say..... j The Dark Site of the Moon: http://perso.club-internet.fr/jimgrund/index.html Tindersticks page: http://perso.club-internet.fr/jimgrund/tinderpage/tinder.html To love oneself is the beginning of a lifelong romance. -Oscar Wilde +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GBCH at xxx.uk Mon Nov 15 20:56:26 1999 From: GBCH at xxx.uk (Chris_t_opher) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:56:26 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Spacemen 3 etc. Message-ID: <016601bf2fad$731273a0$a234883e@gsh> Hi there [This sounds a bit formal, doesnt it?] I need some (or possibly a lot) of help to get a clear picture of what has happened to the members of Spacemen 3 (formed in '83) and who else is connected, if you'd be so kind. I would like any descriptions of the following bands and any recommendations (albums, singles, Eps) that might be locked away in your heads: Spacemen 3 (I've only just worked out that "walkin with Jesus" ISNT a REAL gospel song, btw) Spiritualized Slipstream Spectrum Sonic Boom E.A.R. and any other bands that are directly or indirectly related to any of these. Thank you, you bored people. Chris_t_opher Ps. If theres anyone out there who was on my ICQ list, pweez send a message again, cos ive misplaced you all. SORRY. (ICQ #44383377) And........rest. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snorman at xxx.uk Mon Nov 15 20:25:20 1999 From: snorman at xxx.uk (Sam Norman) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:25:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Looper interview Message-ID: Just found this somewhere on the web can't remember exactly where though. Indie popsters Belle & Sebastian may have been fairly quiet since controversially winning the Brits Best Newcomer award earlier this year. But for B&S bassist Stuart David, things are busier than ever as he forges ahead with his 'other' band, Looper. A whimsical blend of spoken-word monologues, samples and experimental beats, Looper's quirky world revolves around spaceships, treehouses and a cat called Elvis while their new single 'Who's Afraid Of Y2K?' turns its attention to the timely subject of the Millennium. What's more, Stuart has also found time to publish his debut novel, Nalda Said. Click on the links above to hear Stuart talk about his work with Belle & Sebastian and his first novel. Dotmusic met up with the multi-talented Looper frontman to discuss pre-Millennial tension, celebrity fans such as Pulp and discover just why the next Belle & Sebastian album is almost a year behind schedule. Dotmusic: "So, Stuart are you hoping to rival Robbie Williams' 'Millennium' in providing the ultimate end-of-century party track?" Stuart David: "Well, we hoped we'd get lots of airplay because of the subject matter, but it doesn't seem to have worked! I think the Millennium is interesting because it's always been depicted in popular culture as 'the future'. It's interesting how unlike that vision things really are. Next year will be like living in the future and the present at the same time, but also something of an anticlimax." Dotmusic: "Are you worried about the Millennium bug?" Stuart David: "I think there's a chance that the bug could cause a natural creative revolution. Because of how technology has developed, people can be a lot more independent in how they work and there's not such a need for big corporations, which could be brought down by something like computer malfunction. People seem more bothered about Y2K in America than they do here in Britain but I've already storing up tinned food! I'm staying very close to home on New Year's Eve." Dotmusic: "Pulp have remixed a track on the single how did that come about?" Stuart David: "Jarvis Cocker came to see us play at the Bowlie Festival earlier this year and he liked the song. Actually we were Jarvis-spotting at Bowlie but we kept missing him. One time we were kidding around and chanting his name in our chalet and it turned out he was actually walking past outside. Cornelius and Badly Drawn Boy should be remixing tracks on future singles, and we've asked Beck to remix a track we saw him hiding behind a speaker at one of our shows in California." Dotmusic: "How useful have you found the Internet in your work?" Stuart David: "It's been really good. In fact, it's how everything came about. Our first single was released after I met the girl from the SubPop label online. A lot of samples and things we use in the music we got off the Internet there are sites where you can download or buy collections of samples. We're also now editing our own videos on the computer, so we've spent months online working out how to do it. Our own website, The Treehouse came from an idea to have a venue with an art gallery, theatre, a cinema, a music place and a shop in it just all the things we liked. We realised we could do it right now on the Internet without having to wait years to have the money to do it in reality." Dotmusic: "So, what's next for Looper?" Stuart David: "One of our songs, 'Burning Flies', is on a film that's coming out by the Kids In The Hall team, and the people behind the Simpsons are using it on their new carton, The Downtoners. I've started work on a new novel and I'm negotiating the film rights for Nalda Said. The next Looper album, 'Geometric', is quite far to being finished. The new songs have a lot of analogue synth and are more instrumentally based, rather than spoken word. With the book coming out it takes care of the storytelling side of things for a while, so we'll have less of that. Besides, I can't stand the sound of my own voice!" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From RPushong at xxx.com Tue Nov 16 06:05:02 1999 From: RPushong at xxx.com (RPushong at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 01:05:02 EST Subject: Sinister: cool...schmool...who cares! Message-ID: <0.99fffdd5.25624e0e@aol.com> morning kids... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ to be cool or not to be cool ... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ being someone that has struggled with this dilemma for as long as i care to remember ...i give up ...i don't care... you know that feeling when you hear something and it makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up...thats what happens when i hear something i like ...thats all i go by...& its a pretty good system. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ b & s moment ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ well for me it was the opening bars to slow graffiti ...at the bowlie weekender ...i can't explain it ...but it was so beautiful ...and gentle ... i was almost overcome with emotion. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ nalda said ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i kind of enjoyed it ...but what made me laugh is franks complicated betting system because i have a small bet every saturday on the weekend soccer matches ... & this week i won! ...people who know me will know that this is a very big deal because i never win ... i always come close... but i never win ...i never bet big this week it was �3 ...but i won over �350 ... during last years world cup ...i bet �10 on the brazil & france final ...i predicted the first goalscorer Zidane ...& a 2 - 0 score in france's favour ...i would have won �4000 i was a few minutes from winning until france scored again to make it 3 - 0 ...that is how close i get...& do you know what i half expected to lose ...thats what makes winning special + coming out of the bookies with an "arthur daley" wedge of cash. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ random moment of genius ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i've just rediscovered " flying saucer attacks" cover version of suede's "the drowners" ...it beats the pants of the suede original ...genius. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ isn't there a band called cunting crows? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ or am i thinking of inspiral cuntings...and their former basin headed keyboardist cunt boon ...(sorry if there are any clint boon fans here but i despise him) ...he once threatened to take me to court for daring to make i.c live tapes available to their fans, ( both of them) ...so i put a curse on him ...& it seems to be working. so watch it kids ...i make a good friend ...but a dangerous enemy! all this gratituous swearing has made me feel dizzy...& i'd better go wash my mouth out with soap... ta ra ... richard. x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Tue Nov 16 07:18:02 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:18:02 -0000 Subject: Sinister: My first Sinister dream!!! Message-ID: <002301bf3002$b8c5c5a0$f0003c3e@default> Hi all. Well, it finally happened, my first B&S/Sinister dream. Here's the plot - I was leaving college on an unspecified day, and waiting for the X3 home, when a huge lime green bus with SINISTER TWATTYBUS written on the side pulled up and told me to get on. Stuart David was the driver, and wee Karn was the Conductor. Isobel was sitting across from me and Alasdair and Ailsa were talking loudly about football. Heather and Jamie were getting up to *things* and Owen was wearing a pointy hat and chanting about Englerland!!! Then my friend's sister walked across the road in front of the bus and I woke in a cold sweat. Weird, seriously weird. Strangest thing of all was the fact that it wasn't B&S, but Bob Dylan playing over the bus's radio. EEEEEK! I like Dylan, but I don't really want to dream about it :) --Jason "May all your dreams but one come true." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From markniciu at xxx.com Tue Nov 16 09:20:26 1999 From: markniciu at xxx.com (Mark Niciu) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 01:20:26 PST Subject: Sinister: Appliance and Fly Pan Am Message-ID: <19991116092027.19264.qmail@hotmail.com> Dear Sinister legions, Does anyone have any information on a band with the moniker "Appliance"? I saw a video of theirs (for "Pacificon") on MTV's 120 Minutes this week in the U.S. and was quite impressed. Their sound is very reminiscent of the early Verve alla "A Storm in Heaven". In addition, CD-Now (http://www.cdnow.com) was reticent when queried for information on these lads. All I can safely ascertain is that they released their debut LP in mid-October and have an import single available for Amerks to purchse. For all that I know, "Appliance" may not even be from the U.K. Second, has anyone heard Fly Pan Am's new LP? Is it worth the investment? They were billed by Other Music in NYC as a "Godspeed You Black Emperor! side project". I don't think that this is entirely true, albeit they are a quartet from Montreal who play instrumental music like GYBE!. At least that's what I garner from GYBE!'s web site (http://www.southern.com/southern/band/GDSPD). Finally, anyone with any information on the above topics for an ignorant bloke like myself, please respond off the list to markniciu at hotmail.com ~M P.S. Does anyone else find it disconcerting that people actually have dreams involving Belle and Sebastian, or more disturbing that people remember this dreams vividly and report them as if they happened in reality? No malice against anyone who dreams of Belle and Sebastian or any other musical act for that matter, but I just think that it is weird given that most of us have never met the chaps and only seen a few scattered pictures pasted across the internet. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris_leak at xxx.uk Tue Nov 16 09:57:24 1999 From: chris_leak at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?CHRIS=20LEAK?=) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:57:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Laura Llew, Your Review site's gone *@!# /AKA Absence through Absinthe/AKA My drunken work-out Message-ID: <19991116095724.3791.rocketmail@web1301.mail.yahoo.com> Morning (wretch, wretch and spew) Tried to send the following to the review site to no avail (wretch, wretch and spew). So I thought I'd post here instead, hope that's OK? (wretch, wretch and.. mmm.. that did it). (P.S. Chris_t_opher: As far as Spaceman 3 goes, try Taking Drugs to Make Music to Take Drugs to and Spiritualized: Lazer Guided Melodies, Ladies & Gentleman we are Floating in Space and Live at the Albert Hall). For no real reason other than to be the first to paint my little tootsies all over this virginal and snow white site, I submit this vague, vague, vague review. This vagueness is the result of experimenting with a potent spirit called Absinthe (120%), yesterday eve. It would be more appropriate to call it absent ‘cause thatÂ’s how IÂ’m gonna be today. Anyway, it seemed a good idea at the time. Enough of my meandering, it also seems a shame to waste a site with such a lot of potential so here goes: - I just thought IÂ’d write to recommend OobermanÂ’s debut album; The Magic Treehouse ‘cause I truly believe most B&S fans would take a shine to it. The whole album is pretty top-tastic but there are a handful of stand out tracks including the Nick Drakeish Amazing in Bed, the gorgeous Shorley Wall and best of all the heart cloakingly beautiful Roll me in Cotton; try not shivering when he sings “Just hold me cinematic style”. The lyrical content of the album is delivered via a female and male coupling that compliment each other like salt and pepper (note: must remember to attend that creative writing course). The arrangements are fantastically intricate, sharp and just jolly well clever. Anyway with that snippet of a recommendation I bid you farewell with Absinthe induced symptoms of a bowel which can only be politely described as overactive and innards that feel like Sigourney Weaver would eye them with more than a passing suspicion. Leaky (wretch, wretch and a projectile vommited lung oyster) ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bertrand.Caron at xxx.se Tue Nov 16 10:16:29 1999 From: Bertrand.Caron at xxx.se (Bertrand Caron) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:16:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Adam's Curse References: <199911152103.WAA10004@front5m.grolier.fr> Message-ID: <38312EFD.B0EB059F@uab.ericsson.se> Jan Imgrund wrote: > >>That's true: No swedich talks to you << > hey, that's odd. i always thought swedes were so warm and welcoming. > i guess that it's more because of the big city.. it was rather hard > to get to know anyone in paris at first, too, and i know that people > are a lot nicer in the rest of france. I guess you are right. In fact I only know Stockholm so I shouldn't have done a generalisation like that +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jimgrund at xxx.fr Tue Nov 16 11:28:26 1999 From: jimgrund at xxx.fr (Jan Imgrund) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:28:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: cool...schmool...who cares! In-Reply-To: <0.99fffdd5.25624e0e@aol.com> Message-ID: <199911161128.MAA28316@front1.grolier.fr> hello > 've just rediscovered " flying saucer attacks" cover version of suede's > "the drowners" ..it beats the pants of the suede original ...genius. wow; is there really a band called like that that's got any kind of reputation? one of my best friends is telling everyone who doesn't care that her cousin is in a band called flying saucer attack.. I always thought they were some very local heroes. So are they any good and known by more people than are in the band and the record label? ..and also: - we had this topic before, but I like to repeat over and over again that goths have all my sympathy. Especially english goths, of course, english goths are great. They must feel better now, anyway, as they don't have to sweat under their long black coats anymore, letting the make-up running down their faces.. - cunting? cheers, Jan The Dark Site of the Moon: http://perso.club-internet.fr/jimgrund/index.html Tindersticks page: http://perso.club-internet.fr/jimgrund/tinderpage/tinder.html To love oneself is the beginning of a lifelong romance. -Oscar Wilde +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bertrand.Caron at xxx.se Tue Nov 16 11:42:04 1999 From: Bertrand.Caron at xxx.se (Bertrand Caron) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:42:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: cool...schmool...who cares! References: <199911161128.MAA28316@front1.grolier.fr> Message-ID: <3831430C.4AAC34A@uab.ericsson.se> Jan Imgrund wrote: > > hello > > > 've just rediscovered " flying saucer attacks" cover version of suede's > > "the drowners" ..it beats the pants of the suede original ...genius. > > wow; is there really a band called like that that's got any kind of > reputation? one of my best friends is telling everyone who doesn't > care that her cousin is in a band called flying saucer attack.. I > always thought they were some very local heroes. So are they any good > and known by more people than are in the band and the record label? > Yes it is a great band from bristol I think. They are on Domino rcds I think. It's kind of noise experimental stuff. Close to a sort of lo-fi My bloody Valentine. I think it's more a one man band nowadays. It's not extremely popular but the records are not too hard to find(I found them in France). Bertrand +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 16 11:51:49 1999 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:51:49 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: a hearty recommendation of absinthe Message-ID: someone mentioned absinthe...i heartily recommend it to you all cos i once had an incredibly stupid night drinking it for free in a manchester nightclub while listening to some DJ play 70's new york disco. needless to say after too much of the marvelous green drink things stopped making sense...we found ourselves on a bus chanting there's only 2 peter stringfellows at a bloke who looked just like a certain nightclub owner..I think he was pleased by this. anyway drink absinthe its good. another bit of advice if you're ever at the premier of a new musical and a channel 4 TV camera aproaches you and asks for an opinion do not do what I did. I told them that the music was good and that the songs were ok but that the dialogue could have been written by a monkey and that though we were enjoying it we wern't enjoying it in the way it was intended. how was I to know that the guy standing next to me was the writer? the guy with the camera seemed quite pleased with the comment though! had a b&s dream the other night, i dreamt that my dog chewed up my original copy of tigermilk and then i cried. when i woke up though i felt stupid cos i should have realised it was a dream, my dog died a few months ago and i havent got one of those lovely original pressings of tigermilk. was also worried to find that i featured in jasons dream wearing a pointy hat but i suppose my presence would explain the playing of dylan on the TWATTYBUS. remember:absinthe;be nice to musical writers;dream of belle and sebastian. bye my lovely plum puddings owen 'not dangerous anymore' lowery With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erici at xxx.au Tue Nov 16 11:47:01 1999 From: erici at xxx.au (Eric Ireland) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 22:47:01 +1100 Subject: Sinister: judging a man by his cd collection Message-ID: hi, www.suck.com wrote a thing on judging a man by his record collection. this is what they had to say about belle and sebastian.. "Belle & Sebastian ‹ The Boy with the Arab Strap Although the prospect of motherhood may appeal to you, you would probably prefer that your child be an infant and not a grown man who acts like one. Should you discover this CD in his collection, you'd be well advised to keep all your maternal instincts in check; otherwise you'll be spending the night coddling, mollifying, and sympathizing instead of cuddling, making out, and screwing. After a few seemingly endless hours of his incessant whining and irrational ranting, you'll wonder whether you shouldn't be charging him $75 an hour for any future dates. If it turns out that he's a professional music critic (and if he owns this CD he almost certainly is), odds are that he's a bed-wetter and probably allergic to sex. " oh dear! now, if only i could learn to hold off that incessant whining.. eric. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Tue Nov 16 12:31:21 1999 From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Michael=20Jones?=) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:31:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Bouncy in all the wrong places Message-ID: <19991116123121.28704.rocketmail@web119.yahoomail.com> At ease, men. Right, I *think* I've got the gist of what Papa Doc Dastoor was on about. Essentially, you *can* fancy girls that are cool enough to listen to Free Design, but be aware that they're airheads. In the long run, you might be better off with the home-spun cliches of Big Star because, and here's the rub, *they* don't fancy you. Well, Chris Bell did, but he's dead. My brain hurts. I for one believe there was a typo in the last B&S diary thing. Struan and his rosy-cheeked compadres were obviously enjoying a game of Seasonal Scrabble - hence the big-scoring "bunting". Ah, bless him - getting all excited about Xmas already. I realise that 'B' and 'C' aren't precisely adjacent on the keyboard, but I expect this can be explained in terms of a 'spasm'. I suspect Struan, rather like Christopher Walken in "The Dead Zone", suffers these spasms rather a lot. As we've established, Mad Dog is a normal sorta chap, much like the rest of us, but what sets him apart are the spasms; it's during these blackouts that his songs appear, as if delivered by pixies. Martin Robinson said something akin to the following: >That is >usually the best thing about CD's as you can be quite careless without >damaging them unlike my warped, scratched vinyl collection. Despite >treasuring the music that is realised through putting these round things >into or on a musical playing device, I still seem to treat them like shit. And Tim Hopkins was shortly after heard to exclaim: "Tha buggar's got moy cows !". I think he means compact discs, kids. Still, *we* have Mr Robinson's Tascam 4-track and I can vouch for his lack of care. Faders full of matted mammal hair, most of the contents of an M&S Ham and Cheese double-pack smeared on the tape-heads... revolting. But, hey, feed it the right material and it makes sweet, sweet soul music. Yes sir. Duty calls... Steady Mike. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jayhol3 at xxx.com Tue Nov 16 12:38:14 1999 From: jayhol3 at xxx.com (Jamie Holman) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:38:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: for all the fucked up children of the world... Message-ID: <19991116123814.12854.rocketmail@web703.mail.yahoo.com> The Darkside....didnt they become Spectrum with Sonic(first Lp)...Also I hear that the mighty earworm label will be releasing spacemen deomos soon. J Spaceman ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jayhol3 at xxx.com Tue Nov 16 12:37:54 1999 From: jayhol3 at xxx.com (Jamie Holman) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:37:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: for all the fucked up children of the world... Message-ID: <19991116123754.25758.rocketmail@web702.mail.yahoo.com> The Darkside....didnt they become Spectrum with Sonic(first Lp)...Also I hear that the mighty earworm label will be releasing spacemen deomos soon. J Spaceman ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From redden at xxx.com Tue Nov 16 11:44:16 1999 From: redden at xxx.com (danielle redden) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 06:44:16 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Appliance and Fly Pan Am Message-ID: the smashing mark niciu wrote: >P.S. Does anyone else find it disconcerting >that people actually have dreams >involving Belle and Sebastian, or more >disturbing that people remember this >dreams vividly and report them as if they >happened in reality? No malice >against anyone who dreams of Belle and >Sebastian or any other musical act >for that matter, but I just think that it is >weird given that most of us >have never met the chaps and only seen a few >scattered pictures pasted >across the internet. to tell you the truth i did feel like a big dork the other day when i woke up with full memory of a dream about struan. why couldnt i have dreams about flying and kissing exotic women like everyone else? however, when between i was between the ages of eleven and thirteen i had vivid dreams every night that i was a fucking kennedy (part of the whole jack and bobbie and jackie and john-john clan). it became so haunting that at one thanksgiving dinner after a full and brilliant night of such dreams i asked my grandmother "gran, is there any way that we are related to the kenedys?" and my whole family stopped eating, mouths full of mashed potatoes and turkey, turning to stare at this strange girl. my gran replied, in all out gran style, "do you really think i'd be living in a rowhouse in north philly is we were related to the damn kennedys?!" and that was that. after those years i think i can handle the dreams of straun-straun. love danielle Whaat!!! Have you tried The Doghouse??! Get your FREE WEB-BASED EMAIL account at: http://doghousemail.lycos.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk Tue Nov 16 13:53:47 1999 From: elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk (Elizabeth Daplyn) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:53:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: tired and unemotional Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From BrnToEnd at xxx.com Tue Nov 16 15:12:08 1999 From: BrnToEnd at xxx.com (BrnToEnd at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:12:08 EST Subject: Sinister: We live in Urban hell We Destroy Rock N roll Message-ID: <0.1ddadc3e.2562ce48@aol.com> Hello Kids, Is it just me or Does everyone else feel super tired this tues. morning? I sure do almost didnt wake up today. I need a new book to read because I've been picking really bad books lately and Im a reading junkie and well its annoying. My Fav. books are On the Road,1984, Trainspotting, The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test, Fear & loathing in las vages, Catcher in the rye any sugguestions? thanks gotta run -Damon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From the_gibber at xxx.com Tue Nov 16 15:55:37 1999 From: the_gibber at xxx.com (Ian McKinney) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:55:37 GMT Subject: Sinister: that word.. Message-ID: <19991116155537.72482.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello, There seems to be a bit of fascination with the word 'cunting' lately. If I recall correctly from my early teens, that very word popped up in the lyrics of 'South of Heaven' by heavy-metal heroes Slayer. I think the line went 'Bastard sons begat your cunting daughters' or something like that. It's well known that Struan is an ac/dc fan, perhaps he's a Slayer fan too. Byebye, Ian. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sadandsentimental at xxx.com Tue Nov 16 16:02:42 1999 From: sadandsentimental at xxx.com (Curtis Heath) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:02:42 -0600 Subject: Sinister: another bus related post Message-ID: Howdy... here's my bus story... I've been driving a bus for about a year. A "special needs" bus actually. That means my bus has a wheelchair lift. On my first day, a little boy yelled at me, "and today's contestants are?" I didn't understand what he meant. But after a few weeks I came to realize that he watched game shows constantly, and could only communicate through game show lingo. "and today's contestants are?" translates to "who are you? where's the regular bus driver." Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://my.lycos.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From caroline.smith at xxx.com Tue Nov 16 20:44:28 1999 From: caroline.smith at xxx.com (Caroline Smith) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:44:28 -0500 Subject: Sinister: my intro Message-ID: hi i'm caroline - fresh from the nursery. i've spent the last few weeks with your posts dancing across my screen at work. thanks! they make may day so much more pleasant. what else? belle and sebastian is some of the prettiest music that i've come across...i live in toronto, canada... i'm a writer..i'm fresh out of a messy break-up (heartbreak A+)... and i'd love to have more e-mail friends. i'll try not to be too much of a lurker, caroline (hello to anyone i know from before!) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From macarthur at xxx.com Tue Nov 16 21:35:09 1999 From: macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:35:09 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Shake your bon bon Message-ID: <00c501bf307a$9b35c940$3414063e@default> Dearest Lot, Suffering Autumn misery-guts syndrome, I have been driven to listening to the cardigain's Life album from under a blanket, eating milky way strawberry whips. It is my firm belief that they are putting something in the water, as I havent felt this tired since I last did a charity shop trawl (read: thriftstore) - the old women that hide all the good stuff in the back room, they slip a needle up your arm on the way in and drain all the colour out of your cheeks. Their Rouge just doesn't have the same effect - it's the delicate english rose Vs the leathery slapped bottom look. And let's face it, the leathery slapped bottom look is about as fashionable as a drum solo these days. The Fascist debate. I'm going to put my hands out, wrists up and confess - I *am* a sportswear facsist. I hate people who wear combat trousers and designer trainers, I laugh in the face of a Kappa Jacket - and wholey hope that they will laugh right back at me in my Red Socks and Kitten Heels - infact I quite enjoy that, because it means I've done a Good Job. Musically, I'm not quite so snobbish, although to my discredit, I know I'd have to hide a few horrors under my bed if someone was coming round that I was trying to impress. Isn't that always the way though, making such a gallant effort to present yourself the serious and sophisticated young thing, you realise you left your copy of the BEANO out. >But then I always like >songs with cursing in them. tell you what *is* fabulous - Shirley lee from Spearmint singing "and I'm sorry, to be so blunt, but that man, is a cunt" when you least expect it! So rude. They do put a parential guidance sticker on, at least - which is less than I can say for those filthy Hefner boys. Right, I'm going back to hide under my blanket. Send me your electronic affection! Erica x Maudlin rubbish no one should read ever: http://www.chickpages.com/rants/golighty/index/html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mhintz at xxx.edu Tue Nov 16 23:43:40 1999 From: mhintz at xxx.edu (Matthew Hintz) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:43:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: lacewings for the clientele Message-ID: Shot straight to the heart. A mailing list for news and discussion of the Clientele has begun. Email lacewings-subscribe at onelist.com to join. Living and loving Matthew Stolen Kisses http://stolenkisses.tripod.com 'We are reasonably young.' +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 17 01:16:48 1999 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 01:16:48 BST Subject: Sinister: can you hear us cunting on your stereo? Message-ID: <24BB758326A@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> hey kids, i'm pissssseeedddd, well, its 1am, what do you expect? i'm going to go for a kebab in a bit, today i think i;ll have greyhound flavour, mmmmmmm!!!! i think that i had something to say, oh yessss i remember, i'm afraid it was area specific, but fuck that , i'm fucccckkked. to those of you who are vaguely in the manchester area and will be making the trip to the star+garter on wednesday night, i will be there and i will be handingf out jaffa cakes, so if you see me say hello fiona, please try to remeber my name because the chances are i will be on my own and lonely, but even if i'm not and you see someone with jaffa cakes you know you want to be friend. i llove you all!!!! fucking hell, who would have thought lager alone could make you this drunk aha!!! that is my other warning, KIDZ DO NOT DRINK ABSINTHE IT IS EVIL!!! the only experience i've had with it resulted in me waking up covered in bruises and not knowing why. apparently i'd had a fist fight with my best friend in the street and he was not impressed becfause i tried to get random strangers to beat him up by accusing him of raping me. this is a bad thing, but somehow we still love each other and don't live anyone except myself (i get confused whether i'm quoting b+s or the wonderstuff, but i'm completely fucked so i don't care) see you in the s+g (even those of you who i've mailed privately and haven't chosen to answer me, because you know i'm after you [you know who you are!!!] ) stay beautiful + chocolatey, fiona +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 17 01:31:06 1999 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 01:31:06 BST Subject: Sinister: can you hear us cunting on your stereo? Message-ID: <24BF05951A8@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> hey kids, i am pisssssedddd. i promissssed myselfi wouldn't post for a bit, but here i am again. i know this is area specific, but those of you who are coming to the thing in manchester tomorrow, i will be the girl handing out jaffa cakes. please say hello to me because i haven't got many friends around here, and i am desperately sad. fuckkkkk i'm drunk, i've never pressed backspace and delete so many times. i've already written this once and didn't send it properly, but i've forgotten what i put, so this will have to do until i sober up. stay beautiful, fiona >>>>why do i open my mouth wher i know silence should have been?<<<<< +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 17 02:33:18 1999 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 02:33:18 BST Subject: Sinister: sorry guys Message-ID: <24CF7632CC6@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> ooooops, got a bit confused about whether i'd pressed send or not +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From margarita at xxx.com Wed Nov 17 04:37:00 1999 From: margarita at xxx.com (triumphant loser) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 22:37:00 -0600 Subject: Sinister: something i have heard Message-ID: <000f01bf30b5$63c175a0$294afacf@oemcomputer> I have heard through the grapevine that B&S were approached and asked to help on a smiths tribute album with a cover song.I was told that they turned the idea down. I must say that if this is indeed true i have nothing but respect for them in this decision....after all the smiths are dead and gone. I was wondering if anyone could confirm or disspell this rumor ? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From unloveable_ at xxx.com Wed Nov 17 07:56:40 1999 From: unloveable_ at xxx.com (angela i hate my last name) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 01:56:40 CST Subject: Sinister: ahhh, at last...i speak Message-ID: <19991117075640.39473.qmail@hotmail.com> hullo, this is my verry first post, i would have written sooner but i have been on the most lovely trip back to where i grew up. chattannooga tn. that is, currently i am in memphis, but i shall soon be moving back... so if any of you live in the atlana, athens, or chatt. area please do write me, it seems to be one of the friendliest places in our part of the world. ummm let me see, b&s related things....well i am a rather new fan infact i only own the boy with the arab strap, but i did meet a verry sweet boy who let me barrow his c.d. the one with mondern rock song on it...in fact on our little date he was sweetly singing lines from that song to me as i drove about...it was quite nice...sigh.. i truly felt like hidi, back in her swiss miss mountain hills. i just wanted to braid my hair, yoddle, & dance around in wooden clogs but i didnt...insted we(my daughter & i)went to the playgrounds at midnight, fed ducks popcorn, got chased away by a verry mean hissing duck...oh and i went to a show too! any one heard of a band from athens called of montreal? i liked them alot, if i wasnt so broke i would have bought somthing of thiers...oh well i think i have chatterd on enough. oh one more thing...how do i get to that list crush thing i keep hearing about? ok ta-ta for now angela, from the mecca of elvis fans I.C.Q.#47995388 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pulpbot at xxx.com Wed Nov 17 04:29:34 1999 From: Pulpbot at xxx.com (Pulpbot at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 23:29:34 EST Subject: Sinister: ain't nothing going on but the rent Message-ID: <0.d024514b.2563892e@aol.com> Kids, Can the recovering music snobs form some sort of self-help club? "Hi, my name is Jennifer and I hate anyone who doesn't have an original copy of Tigermilk." You can choose any higher power, but it can't be a Scottish musician. Falling of the wagon is equated with going to see your favorite bands and glaring at the "poseurs" in audience. Moved into DC this weekend (my new roommate is fellow (ex)listee Eran. It's like the phenomena where a butterfly dies in Japan, and eventually it effects who the next president of Argentina is or something--Belle and Sebastian form and eventually I find a rent source.) Unlike Stuart Murdoch, I didn't take a break when my legs became black and blue. Curse Eran and his insanely heavy mismatched furniture. Third record on the stereo: Tigermilk. The musical equivalent to comfort food. I've not yet had a dream about B&S, but I did dream last night that this beautiful boy whom I always see at shows kept turning up at various locations (including my bedroom) with his scabby girlfriend, and they would proceed to make out and stare blankly at me. I suppose that's a scenario Bret Easton Ellis would dream up for his disaffected dollies. It certainly put me off going out tonight. Jennifer +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bferneyhough at xxx.uk Wed Nov 17 10:52:38 1999 From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (Ben Ferneyhough) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:52:38 GMT Subject: Sinister: Tape tree revival. Message-ID: <199911171052.KAA15410@brookes.ac.uk> Dear everyone, UK listees in particular. A long while ago Kevan Cooke set up a tape tree (Kevan, I've tried to mail you, but your address is a bit wonky !!) which was a huge and exciting success until people started to get lazy and not send the tape on. Anyway, if you are interested in making a tape (or CD) mail me *PRIVATELY* and I'll get it all sorted. What I'll need is your name and the town where you reside. What you need to do is make a 90 minute mix tape or CD of your favourite music (no B&S though, we all are fans of them), then it gets sent round in a massive (or small - depending on who joins) circle, and each 2 or 3 weeks you get the next tape on the list. I'll explain it all a lot better with the rules and the like to all who want to join the tapetree. So, just remember these 2 points for now: *1* You have to live in the UK. *2* Mail me OFF LIST ie PRIVATELY. Ben x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed Nov 17 10:55:00 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:55:00 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Big Fat Hairy Black Taran-chla Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22A2DF68@SERVER1> The dazzling Liz Daplyn said, while discussing having Struan on the kitchen table: Courgettes up your fanny [I'm paraphrasing a little bit here] But HOW? They have those sharp little hairs on them, and if they hurt when they stick in one's horny (ahem) hands, then getting them stuck in your flaps must be murder. Mark Niciu managed the unusual feat of saying a record was really good, AND comparing it to the Verve. I'll leave you to ponder that one. Fiona said: Aah, fuggit, yer...yer my besht fuggin mate, hic, you are, no, r-really...... Hangovers are the worst. I am beginning to hate myself when I wake up and my eyes take a couple of seconds to catch up to where I'm pointing them, and my head isn't quite sure whether to explode or simply go on strike. Even 4 pints now knacker me the whole of the next day - fuzzy-focused memories of university days spent bouncing around after a skinful the night before only seem to taunt my strained, red-rimmed eyes and wobbly countenance. Oh dear, I seem to be getting poetic (?) More discussion of the three Spacemen is always welcome. 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From margarita at xxx.com Wed Nov 17 12:40:20 1999 From: margarita at xxx.com (triumphant loser) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 06:40:20 -0600 Subject: Sinister: recovering music snobs....i like that Message-ID: <001f01bf30f8$e9343a40$2f8ffacf@oemcomputer> I found that post about recovering music snobs to be most amusing.I think the majority of people are like that .....even if the music is a bit tastless. Of course i grew up in an area that is musical deprived, so when other kids were listening to Guns and Roses(uggg) i was into the smiths,cure, pulp and 10000 maniacs. I must say under such conditions it isnt hard to feel a little superior. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From coool_air at xxx.com Wed Nov 17 13:02:50 1999 From: coool_air at xxx.com (Claire Timmins) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 05:02:50 PST Subject: Sinister: Sheffield Message-ID: <19991117130250.30595.qmail@hotmail.com> Need help, anyone living in sheffield, could you please get in touch with me.. cheers, claire* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Wed Nov 17 13:33:40 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 13:33:40 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: that charming Stan Message-ID: Hiya! Maybe some oldies thought my subject referred to that jolly character which enlighted our days in pre-Bowlie days,and then vanished,maybe jumped from some rocky cliff into the ocean,who knows.Sorry to the new faces,who had never heard of him/her,you always can check the archives.It was good fun for a while. Stan stands for Stanley Donen.It doesn't make sense ,I know...so let's me introduce you to my latest plans:After my succesful observations on NVs resistent attitude towards the upheaval of the market tide yesterday evening,compiled with the help of you lot, I left our local Arts Cinema in a state of rapture after discussing with some course fellows how much we missed musicals and how great it would be to leave in a musical for a day ourselves. So,that's the plan:a) writing a script about someone who is ready to live another day like everyday but suddenly his/her day is a 'musical'day and he/she has the chance to sing/dance along daily,boring issues as how dirty the kitchen floor is or choosing books from the library shelves for the weekend without the library staff phoning the closest psychiatrical institution,b)Hollywood musicals are naff and uncool and probably half the population of Sinisterland are frowning at this stage, but what about 'Les parapluies de Cherbourg' or 'Les mademoiselles de Rochefort',eh?We could sing something in French or get Laetitia Sadier for an special collaboration to mitigate Tinseltown glossiness,and c) we need songs.But I can write to Stu,pleading in my best unhappy student tone we really need his songs to dance along publically as we do in front of our bedrooms mirrors. I already have devised some coreography with 'A summer wasted': it is the beginning of the film, and the main character wonders what he/she ( I think is a 'he'...)has made of the sunny time now that is cold and leaves are falling.Very Minelli. And I need performers.Any Gene Kelly or Cyd Charisse in this parish? 'There is no business like show businesss...'. I am coming back to my mysteriously non-zero polarizability. xxx Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Nov 17 13:33:15 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 14:33:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: 10 Roddington Place Message-ID: <01bf3100$4d6ccc00$LocalHost@itjfvkli> I hope Isobel doesn't do any currants while she's in that rabbit hutch. Will, I like Mister Dirty Bastard too. I haven't got his new record though. Or his old one for that matter. Melt Banana played here last night. It was fantastic. I didn't go, because it was well past my bedtime, but the twenty minutes or so I spent thinking about it were so fantastic that I didn't need to go anyway. Could this be the future of rock'n'roll? Stuart David said: Besides, I can't stand the sound of my own voice! Which is a step in the right direction. Someone was wondering why Staurt M spent so much time writing about Mr Funai. I believe Mr Fuani represents Morrissey, the game of chess represents the music industry and the other chess club members represent all the other Smiths rip-off bands doing the rounds. The "you're effed!" incident represents Jeepster rigging the Brits and the "terrible piece of road" represents Looper. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From messentw at xxx.uk Wed Nov 17 17:31:09 1999 From: messentw at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?William=20Messent?=) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:31:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Who's Afraid Of Will 2 K? Message-ID: <19991117173109.29653.rocketmail@web302.mail.yahoo.com> Hullo. I've just rediscovered " flying saucer attacks" cover version ofsuede's > "the drowners" ..it beats the pants of the suede original ...genius. Nice. Anyone who digs Flying Saucer Attack should also check out anything at all by 3rd Eye Foundation, especially the 'You Guys Kill Me' LP which is stupendous. Did anybody catch the 1 hour darts special on telly a couple of weeks ago? Phil 'The Power' Taylor vs. Ray 'Barney' Barneveld, a real clash of the titans. Taylor, with the English crowd behind him, absolutely slaughtered Barneveld which I though was a shame. When it comes to darts, I always support the Dutch. Unpatriotic, I know, but that's the way it is. I've yet to figure out why darts matches aren't on telly more often, they're a bloody sight more fun than football to watch. So Stuart says 'cunting'. Good luck to the boy. He'd have got a higher word score with 'wankshaft' mind you. Can anybody help me to ease myself back into society now that the current series of 'Millionaire' (as I believe 'insiders' refer to Mr Tarrant's show) is drawing to a close? Any help would be apprieciated. Love Will x ===== Visit The Remote Viewer homepage http://www.members.tripod.com/remoteviewer/ ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Wed Nov 17 17:49:19 1999 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:49:19 EST Subject: Sinister: the time draws ever closed Message-ID: <0.cf49b45b.2564449f@aol.com> Hello sinisterines! How is everything? I'm mad about the Scotland result, and I know it's going to be worse tonight. Also, it's interupting who wants to be a millionare which I am addicted to, trashy though it may be. Guess what? Yet another person wants to beat me up! Isn't that just fabby? This time it's for accidentaly getting an A+ in my RE project. I've been wearing a poncho to school and taking stick for it, but I like it a lot, it keeps me warm, and I bought it in logo, so it's not that naff. I think. Today, in school, I was looking up stuff on the guardian/ sunday times CD rom for stuff on GM food. Actually, I was supposed to be doing that, but instead I found all these articles on belle and sebastian, and spent the whole period printing out b&s stuff, until the school librarian caught me, and I couldn't manage to convince him that belle and sebastian had anything to do with GM food. Also he noticed my badges, so I couldn't say i found it by accident. There's a girl in the year above me who looks and dresses just like me. It's spooky, but if she wasn't older than me I'd probably be her friend, since we seem to have a lot in common. I'm still knitting my scarf, it's almost long enough to wear now. Happiness and hugs Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dporter13 at xxx.net Wed Nov 17 19:10:55 1999 From: dporter13 at xxx.net (Derek Porter) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:10:55 -0800 Subject: Sinister: yet ANOTHER introduction Message-ID: <001001bf312f$a829d140$21611c26@oemcomputer> Hi Y'all, Sorry to clutter up the list with yet ANOTHER introduction, but I've been waiting patiently in the nursery for a few weeks now, and I feel I'd be remiss if I didn't at least say hello to all of you, especially after reading all of your posts 'n stuff. Hello. My name's Derek. I'm a pretty new fan of Belle & Sebastian, only having heard them for the first time a few months ago, but they became an instant favorite. I was listening to a radio interview of my other favorite band, the Old 97's, here in Seattle, and when asked what records they were listening to, two of them mentioned how much they liked B & S. Since I am a blind sheep and will do whatever rocks stars say, I ran out immediately and bought TBWTAS. Thinking it to be the greatest thing I have ever heard, I went out and bought IYFS, and finally Tigermilk. Each new purchase would have the hairs on my neck jumping up just a wee bit higher. Having grown up in the land of "crunchy power chords", angst, and flannel, you've no idea how refreshing it was to hear a song as beautiful as Seymore Stein or Judy...Horses. I'm now hard at work locating the singles, and hope to have my collection complete and on vinyl before the end of the millennium, when the fiends & felons will no doubt come marauding and attempt to abscond with them. By that time, however, I should be well fortified on bourbon and good cheer, and plan to put up one hell of a battle. I've also stockpiled what I feel to be a sufficient amount of canned goods and firepower, so I feel I've at least got a competitive chance. Let's see, what else. I've yet to have a dream about or involving anyone from B&S, but that could be because I've only ever seen two photos of Stuart Murdoch, and I don't think I've seen photos of anyone else in the band. I suppose I wouldn't know if I had or not because, as the recent Gear article mentioned, the girl holding the dog on wheels isn't even in the band. You all probably knew that ages ago, but I thought it was inspired. I love public transportation, and miss living in New York City for that very reason. Nothing's been quite as exhilarating as my first solo subway ride, looking entirely bewildered as someone with no legs rolled by on a skateboard begging for change. The bus system in Seattle is fine, but lacks the cast of characters I grew accustomed to. Busses & subways also make for an instant music video if you've brought your walkman along. I recently made a brilliant video in my head while listening to Johnny Hit & Run Pauline by X on my headset, and watching the large gentleman sitting to the left fall asleep on the bus. It was very modern and would surely win some kind of award, even though the Backstreet/Brittany fans would never understand it. Ok, I feel I've rambled on quite enough. Once again, hello to anyone who's made it to the end of my missive, and if you're ever in the Seattle metropolitan area, shoot me an e-note as I'd love to meet another B&S fan for coffee or drinks sometime. And if you didn't read all the way down, lick me where I pee. Good luck, and Godspeed, Derek dporter13 at earthlink.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From margarita at xxx.com Wed Nov 17 21:50:40 1999 From: margarita at xxx.com (triumphant loser) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:50:40 -0600 Subject: Sinister: not margarite Message-ID: <002501bf3145$cad19320$b18ffacf@oemcomputer> Sorry about that mix up, i should have been more clear about my gender. My name is Zach and i am male, i guess my email addy could give the wrong idea. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seyfert7 at xxx.com Wed Nov 17 22:42:31 1999 From: seyfert7 at xxx.com (deb s) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 22:42:31 GMT Subject: Sinister: oh no...t.o Message-ID: <19991117224231.75873.qmail@hotmail.com> IF ... anyone wants to meet up before Songs For Children tomorrow/tonight (thursday) a few of us will be hanging around from 9:15/9:30pm-ish. we'll try the downstairs at Rancho first, and if there isn't really hangy-outy space avaliable, we'll head over to Oasis (as i've been told it's like a 70's basement) and wait for gatherers there. quick question to any UK listees still reading...is the 'who wants to be a millionaire' you're watching the same shite one i'm watching...with regis as the host and all? just wondering... ohhh...and anyone else round here, hefner are playing for free next tuesday! free! hefner! FREE! right, see you there then. (horseshoe) cheers luvdebx ohhh and remember .......one tequilla two tequilla three tequilla floor! (laura needs us to drink alot tomorrow or she has to pay the owner extra...so rest up...!) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox at xxx.com Wed Nov 17 22:55:05 1999 From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 22:55:05 GMT Subject: Sinister: all I wanted was a 3-4-3 Message-ID: <19991117225506.32975.qmail@hotmail.com> hey, hey, I just saw a reference to 'Every Picture Tells A Story': perhaps the first on the list. Naturally, I agree with every word. Of the e-mail, if not the song. Supplementary question. What was the song that everyone, especially Scots folk, were jigging up and down to at the end of Sky's Wembley coverage? I had an idea, but have forgotten it; and I never thought it was accurate anyway. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From porterww at xxx.edu Wed Nov 17 23:28:08 1999 From: porterww at xxx.edu (Will Porter) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:28:08 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: aww christ, not another one Message-ID: You guessed it: another list neophyte posting just because I can. I was hoping I'd be a little interesting, but I think that's more than you or I can hope for. It has been bothering me for some weeks now that I don't look like David Bowie. I was surprised and excited to hear that someone else came to discover B&S via the Old97s. I found 'em via a six-degrees-of-amazon.com sort of thing, beginning at Too Far To Care and ending at Tigermilk. (mmmm... tigermilk) All of this talk about autumn and winter and cold has got me missing the cold. I haven't been cold in a year, and it's really bothering me. Incidentally, the trouble with Texas (aside from just being to damned warm) is that it's full of Texans. I am awash in a sea of y'all. I don't like Austin much at all. Though, to be fair, I should say that I miss my native pacific northwest terribly and I probably haven't give Austin a fighting chance. Imagine my surprise when I noticed that there is already a Will and already a Porter on this list. I feel so insignificant. I don't remember who, but someone mentioned Adam's Curse, which is a mighty mighty good poem--one of the only poems I ever memorized just because I liked it and wanted to be able to think about it anytime I felt so inclined. The other one is 'Meditation at Lagunitas' by Robert Hass, which I'm going to tack onto the end of this hyah message (gotta make my first intrusion into your inbox count for something). Do you ever find yourself listening to TBWTAS and thinking about how most of the songs on that album sound like a whole different band than the one that made Tigermilk and IYFS? I'm going to see GBV this weekend, and I'm excited beacuse I've never seen them before and lots of people say that they're incredible live. Ooh, I have a question (I nearly forgot). Any American expatriates out there? Particularly in the UK, I'm wondering how hard it is to get work, what hoops you have to jump through, etc. I'm curious because a lot of the time, I don't like Americans very much, but I'm a little afraid to live abroad, because if I discover that I don't like anybody, that might just mean something about me. Any thoughts? uhm, bye Will Porter PS: The poem I promised you: Meditation at Lagunitas by Robert Hass All the new thinking is about loss. In this it resembles all the old thinking. The idea, for example, that each particular erases the luminous clarity of a general idea. That the clown- faced woodpecker probing the dead sculpted trunk of that black birch is, by his presence, some tragic falling off from a first world of undivided light. Or the other notion that, because there is in this world no one thing to which the bramble of blackberry corresponds, a word is elegy to what it signifies. We talked about it late last night and in the voice of my friend, there was a thin wire of grief, a tone almost querulous. After a while I understood that, talking this way, everything dissolves: justice, pine, hair, woman, you, and I. There was a woman I made love to and I remembered how, holding her small shoulders in my hands sometimes, I felt a violent wonder at her presence like a thirst for salt, for my childhood river with its island willows, silly music from the pleasure boat, muddy places where we caught the little orange-silver fish called pumpkinseed. It hardly had to do with her. Longing, we say, because desire is full of endless distances. I must have been the same to her. But I remember so much, the way her hands dismantled bread, the thing her father said that hurt her, what she dreamed. There are moments when the body is as numinous as words, days that are the good flesh continuing. Such tenderness, those afternoons and evenings, saying blackberry, blackberry, blackberry. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From BradWhiddon at xxx.com Thu Nov 18 04:58:39 1999 From: BradWhiddon at xxx.com (BradWhiddon at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 23:58:39 EST Subject: Sinister: she sleeps around Message-ID: <0.6730a54b.2564e17f@aol.com> hello folks i went and saw the wonderful david berman (he of silver jews fame) give a poetry reading tonight in athens from his new book (called "actual air" if you don't have it. get it) and it was really terrific. "and i wonder if she loves me only as a favor to god" that line is gonna stick with me for a couple of days. that was in one of his new poems. anyway, he told a joke....well, a couple, but here's the funny one the joke is set in 1974 at the white house with richard nixon taking a shit. so he's sitting there grabbing both sides of the bowl and straining when finally something pops out. he goes about the usual routine of wiping up and all, but when he looks at the toilet paper he notices that his shit has glitter all over it. "what the fuck?" he thinks....so he wipes again and looks at it again and still he's got glitter covered shit. so he's sitting there wondering what the hell is going on...then he remembers... david bowie had eaten his asshole the night before. and there was another one. celine dion walks into a bar and the bartender says.... "hey, celine. why the long face?" -brad +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From crystalstair at xxx.com Thu Nov 18 06:14:54 1999 From: crystalstair at xxx.com (CMD) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 01:14:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: fashionable snogging to melismatic melodies in colorado Message-ID: <383451060.942905694173.JavaMail.root@web06.pub01> City slickers, Emily (wherever I may find her) baited me out from my mountain cave with this unconscious query: "{my fave is}.....those little bits of songs in which SM drags out what he's singing: "...dream of ho-o-o-o-o-o-o-orses," etc. There's probably some musical-type term for that, but I don't know it." which leads to the ...... (can you stand the excitement)..... ------>Musical Term of the Day<------ * Melismatic * A melodic style characterized by many notes sung to a single text syllable. I do believe above word is precisely that for which Emily sought. Found! Now you can ace that intro to music test. I also believe that Mr. Murdoch is right up there with Vivaldi, and surely, centuries from now, Belle and Sebastian will be in the computer chip music text books. (will those computer chips be implanted in the brains of babies at birth? imagine: instant lyric proficiency....hmm....but none of the amusing mis-hearings.) ------>Colorado Quandaries<-------- I am at school in Boulder, CO presently. Do any of you Sinisterines reside nearby? Do send an electronic message my way (not the list way)! I am small music student in big (read: very big) school - and you know, I look for those badges, but haven't seen any. There must be some of you out here... ------>Universal University Fashion Fair<------- Is there the clothes brand Abercrombie and Fitch outside the US? I want to know! Their labels are ubiquitous here, and the gigantic sporty/sexy posters they put up in the store windows disturb me. But granted there are more disturbing things in this world. For instance, the image of Anne Geddes and Isobel fighting it out. I couldn't 'member that woman's name (who does all those pics of babies in flower pots) until I followed George Dickie's link. Props to you, sir, for augmenting the list of things I'll surely forget again, but enjoy knowing for the time being. ------>Parting (Naughty?) Query<------- Snog music! Have you favorites, theories, equations? I'm quite interested, so email me (not list) if you care to share. How do you come up with that late-night date-night programming? What usually makes the cut? Perhaps I'll post a summary, or write a book, or something, should response will it. Now I go to kick some leaves around. Waving bye at the coquettish rockers, Kate ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From FearofMops at xxx.com Thu Nov 18 09:41:02 1999 From: FearofMops at xxx.com (FearofMops at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 04:41:02 EST Subject: Sinister: a lurker rears its ugly head Message-ID: <0.abd17067.256523ae@aol.com> okay, i'm going to make an ass of myself and de-lurk. but don't worry, i'll try to keep it brief and it'll probably be a long time before i do it again, if ever. so (deep breath) here goes. i'm in dallas and i guess you'd say i'm a relative newbie to b&s. i bought tbwtas about a year ago and have since purchased tigermilk. both of them have been in heavy rotation on my cd player despite my efforts to refrain. i'm the only b&s fan i know. but as often as i get out, the streets of dallas could be teeming w/ b&s fanatics and i'd never know. i do believe i'm slowly but surely converting my girlfriend tho, so there is hope. okay there's the intro. just a bit more un-b&s related stuff and i'll be out of your hair. tuesday i actually ventured out of the apartment and braved the scary city to see stereolab and olivia tremor control. both bands kicked ass. i very nice man behind us in line gave my girlfriend an extra ticket so i got in cheap too. the only downside was that after having found some excellent seats in a comfy couch above the floor, a rather large man decided to come stand in front of us during most of sterelab's set. so my view of the band was replaced w/ some guy's ass shaking. when he finally left, another guy decided to show off his pelvic thrust skills just inches behind my head. oh well.... and finally a question for any of you in the dallas area, unless i'm the only one of course. if you've been able to locate a copy of Godspeed You Black Emperor!'s latest cd, could you kindly e-mail me privately and direct me to the friendly record store where it is hiding? it would be much appreciated. well that wasn't short... later +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Archel1978 at xxx.com Thu Nov 18 12:23:05 1999 From: Archel1978 at xxx.com (Archel1978 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 07:23:05 EST Subject: Sinister: culture, knitting and homicidal birds Message-ID: <0.7912107f.256549a9@aol.com> salut filles et garcons sinistre. i'm having a fraught hitchcockian moment suddenly - the bathroom, which is next to this room, has a plastic skylight thing, and it's being attacked with vigour by what sounds like about 30 seagulls. i think they just do it to get at the water in the ridges, but it sounds like they're going to break through at any minute and start pecking at my carefully coiffured hair, if i had carefully coiffured hair, symbolising the triumph of brutal nature over the petty artifices of humanity. or something. will - a good way to cope with 'millionaire' withdrawal symptoms is to watch 'midday money' on richard and judy instead. the stakes aren't quite as high, but it's a close run thing whether the presenters are less annoying. of course, this presumes that you are an unemployed layabout like me. jenowl - i think you should go ahead and make friends with the girl in the year above. it's not like she's 80, and these year divisions are pretty arbitrary anyway. she could be a soulmate. incidentally, i'm knitting a scarf as well. it looks a bit of a mess, but it's very therapeutic. (not better than sex though, i have to admit this time.) yesterday i went to the tate gallery and the poetry library, but as i didn't encounter any arty, sexy men to discuss aesthetics with i have to conclude it was a failed expedition. (though i did see the turner prize exhibition and tracey emin's bed, which was... interesting.) culture is not better than sex either. having said that, i'm still looking for contributions to my poetry thing (it's called 'buzzwords'), so please send stuff all you creative people. reviews, short stories and miscellaneous brilliance also accepted. i was listening to 'dog on wheels' the other day when i thought i heard the electrician who's rewiring our house singing along outside the door. but on reflection i think he was probably singing something else entirely, just to drown it out. oh well. finally, nick dastoor wrote: >this is >someone who only recently realised that 'Archel' was subtle corruption of >'Rachel'. and not just linguistically, i fear... :) subtly corrupt, archel xxx ps: props to the new will for using the word 'neophyte'. ******** Rachel Playforth archel at iname.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucy.alder at xxx.uk Thu Nov 18 14:38:56 1999 From: lucy.alder at xxx.uk (Alder, Lucy) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:38:56 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Who's Gregory's Girl? Message-ID: <1EC8C16BC185D311ACB90008C7C563F3352955@gblon1c3ex1.wcom.co.uk> Gosh, I don't seem to have posted for ages and ages again - I kind of lost inspiration for a while, but this morning I compiled a wee list of things to write about (sad? moi?) and crumbs! I think this might be a long'un. But read on, friends! This missive comes with a No Questions Asked Money Back Guarantee. And if that doesn't convince you, there's a teensy bit of smut too. Martin R raised the subject of scratched vinyl, reminding me of the more embarrassing moments in my young life. My copy of the first Hits album, a veritable treasure trove of mid-eighties pop, was bought from a jumble sale when I was about eleven and had already acquired several scratches, although not too detrimental to one's listening pleasure. I learned all the words (and also the saxophone solo, yus indeedy) to Careless Whisper as a result of this purchase, and the jumpy bit in the middle came to be ignored because, oooooh, I loved that song and really felt every word Georgie M intoned. One day, a couple of years later, my friend Julie came round and we decided it would be nice to have a sing-a-long-a-Careless Whisper moment. We sat cross-legged on the floor, the needle hit the groove and our spines tingled as that smooooooth saxophone got to work. I was lost in music (caught in a trap) when I realised Julie was looking at me all funny. Yes, I'd sung the scratches. Dear sinisterines, I hope the same never happens to you. News of my scratching talent flew round the school, I hardly dared show my face for shame and I came to be known as Porky Scratchings. Then Wayne, my classroom crush, decided I was more Juicy than Porky (although to tell the truth I fitted both descriptions) and my current moniker was adopted, much to my relief. Were I a goth, I'd prefer to wear those dainty canvas Mary Jane(ish)-style shoes rather than the long and pointy Child Catcher-style ones. My Nanna has terrible bunions and I'd really not want to inflict that sort of lasting damage on myself. That's my contribution to the goth debate. New boy Derek Porter wrote >>you've no idea how refreshing it was to hear a song as beautiful as Seymore Stein or Judy...Horses and when I read it, a overheard a little conversation taking place somewhere in my head which I will now relate to you in the style of a diarist who is currently in vogue Derek Porter: Let me introduce you. Horses....Judy, Judy....Horses Judy: Pleased to meet you Horses: Likewise, we're sure. Fancy a ride? Judy: Cor, not 'arf Horses: Whinny Judy: Giddy up! I won't tell you what happened next although, to spare DP's blushes, I'll say that he had scurried away by this point. I'll leave to you to continue the story yourselves and, if you wish, you may try a little self-analysis based on the fruits of your imaginations. One extra point for each usage of a different piece of leatherware from the saddlery. Steady Mike wrote: >>I for one believe there was a typo in the last B&S diary thing. Struan and his rosy-cheeked compadres were obviously enjoying a game of Seasonal Scrabble - hence the big-scoring "bunting". Ah, bless him - getting all excited about Xmas already. I realise that 'B' and 'C' aren't precisely adjacent on the keyboard, but I expect this can be explained in terms of a 'spasm'. When I was a young'un, I was an avid reader of Bunty, widely regarded as THE comic for squares. I suspect this wouldn't be the case if it was called Cunty. I hate to think what hi-jinks the four Marys would get up to each week. AND FINALLY... Ladies and gentlemen, may I request some assistance in the small matter of upsetting the BBC? Will Messent has already unwittingly divulged part of the plan by writing >>I saw the DKNY girl the other day. She came round to mine and told me to vote for 'Gregory's Girl' in some film poll or other, but I'm not sure which poll she meant. I think she'd been drinking. Anyway, I've never seen 'Gregory's Girl'. It all began when myself and various members of the South East London Sinister Masseeeeev were slumming around a television set last week and Jonathon Ross announced details of the BBC's Film '99 poll for best film in the whole wide world ever. I have to credit monsieur Tim Hopkins with the big idea of getting Gregory as high up the aforementioned chart as possible. My dear sister (DKNY trainer girl) has already voted and I would like to urge you to do the same at http://www.bbc.co.uk/movies/film99/form.shtml No, you don't have to agree with the motion. You don't even have to have seen the film ever, but it would be fun to see lanky John Gordon-Sinclair and wee Clare Grogan rubbing shoulders with Orson Welles, Clark Gable and Kate Winslet in this inevitably populist poll, would it not? You may even use up the remaining 4 spaces to vote for whichever film you so desire - just make sure you vote Gregory's Girl NUMBER ONE!!! And then I'll love you for ever and ever. Please? Pretty please? With sugar on top and a cherry? Thank you. To qualify for a refund, please send your receipts to... Juicy Lucy =================================================== This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and then destroy any copies of it. -- MCI WorldCom Year 2000 information http://www.wcom.co.uk/2000 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com Thu Nov 18 15:18:55 1999 From: babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?BabyChris=20Crystalballs?=) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 07:18:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: sclub farty/me-struan?/baxendale/other ramblings Message-ID: <19991118151855.2089.rocketmail@web1406.mail.yahoo.com> Hiya peeps. I'm pretty disturbed right now. I had an experience last night which can only be described as harrowing. I got the sclub 7 album, almost epoymously titled "s club". "Hey, hey....push the ceiling............. you're my number 1.....do do do.....quentas tiempo - we have good time!!!" Full of totally poptastic surefire hit singles - it truly stunned me. b&s will never sound the same again. Pop isn't so bad after all. Another shock that I had was to be told that I looked a bit like struan this morning. I had my new wool coat on, and my farsically long scarf (which do, contrary to public opinion, actually keep you warm) and my big sister said that I looked a bit like struan in the dog on wheels video, when he goes in the shop (I made my sister watch this repeatedly, even though she thinks that b&s are woosy). I suppose my hair is a bit like his, but a different colour ("Barber - I want a struan, and I want it NOW!!!!") I heard baxendale on the radio the othe night, singing some song about "you look like the kind of girl who'd try to steal my boyfriend". I though that this was pretty relevant to the recent dicussion about "superbiches". What is the term for a male superbitch? anyone? bye bye gotta go lotsa luv Baby Chris CRYSTALBALLS PS - I'm off now to buy the new, more mature sounding b*witched album "awake and breathe".......I might get "STEPTACULAR!!!!" as well......... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starpiekat at xxx.uk Thu Nov 18 16:36:17 1999 From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:36:17 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Isobel Campbell Choked on Own Headscarf Joy! Message-ID: <19991118163617.3948.rocketmail@web1704.mail.yahoo.com> Allo there my Breetesh Chooms, (and everyone else too) New Order are wise, aren't they? They sing "there are so many ways that you can kill someone, like in a love affair, when the love goes wro-ong". Thats very wise! And it got me thinking too. There are also so many ways one could assasinate Isobel Campbell aren't there? Hopefully not in a love affair. But perhaps that (ie, MOIDER and DEATH) was the idea of Lesley Jos uncontrolable fascination with "Bel"? Aaah I understand. I have come to the conclusion that a nice way of "sorting" out Isobel, would be to force her to eat her own headscarfs until she chokes, or explodes with headscarf, like that guy who died from eating loads of Spaghetty in Se7en. Archel talked about going to the Tate Gallery and the Poetry Library. Well who woulda thought we were so well connected? Right now I am writing a devastating critque of elitism in poetry because its a good excuse for causing an argument and sounding GRRRR! ANGRY!! GRRR!! Yes. And also yesterday I did some Art too! So I touched on the worlds of both poetry and art. Art is bluddy grate. All you need to be Art is a polaroid camera and the right amount of talking shite. And a few pints in you. Gregorys Girl? Number one in the film charts? Would that be a good thing? I'd prefer the Brittas Empire STILL with John Gordan Sinclair as the curmudgeonly manager of a sports centre to win personally. Except that its not a film, its a honking pile of cacky pants. The last film I saw was a film about what happens when a BIG GAY DYKE steals away your BIG BISEXUAL-WIFE. The husband in the film looked a bit like Matthew Hintz I thought. Probably because he had glasses. And so does Matthew! Sometimes. But anyway. And at the end there was a hint that the husband might be a bit hotel/motel himself! You know, a bit of the old boy-gayism reared its head. But luckily we didn't have to see any of that in the film, just girlies touching each other. Ooo. Channel 4 pushing the boat out again eh? I'm going to read a book, Sarah xx ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From COURTOLY at xxx.com Thu Nov 18 06:59:16 1999 From: COURTOLY at xxx.com (COURTOLY at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 01:59:16 EST Subject: Sinister: NW USA Pop Show Message-ID: <0.6c72cfe1.2564fdc4@aol.com> Rock against the WTO! Okay this only pertains to Belle and Sebastian in the greater sense of community between pop bands and the simple socialism the band sometimes portrays. The WTO is horrible and you can go on the internet and read why because its really complicated, but this benefit is to raise money for a mass protest AGAINST the WTO on the 30th in Seattle where the corporations are going to meet. Friday November 19th at 8PM the Intima (will you want to rock out or cry?) Calvin Johnson (K records heartthrob solo and acoustic) Unbunny (Seattle popsters on Paris Caramel-yum) and Toro Sec Toro (Arrington of Old Time Relijun in a noiseriffic experiment) At Olympia World News 116 East 4th Ave (formerly Bulldog News) (F.Y.I. also the home of the Olympia Zine Library) 8PM $4-6 sliding scale donation to benefit the organization of the anti WTO protest in Seattle directions: Take I-5 to the Port of Olympia exit. left on Plum at the light. left on State to Columbia. left on Columbia, left on 4th, Oly World News will be on your right next to the Spar. Questions, comments and concerns 1-360-786-0332 If anybody from the list wants to come hang out before the show e-mail me. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Nov 18 17:27:13 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 18:27:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Lovely Scottish Voices to Download Message-ID: <01bf31ea$26e344c0$4c9e243e@itjfvkli> I know a lot of you go weak at the knees as soon as you hear anyone Scottish start to speak, so you might be interested in the sound sample at this URL: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/special_report/1999/11/99/battle_of_b ritain/newsid_526000/526119.stm I haven't heard it myself, because I haven't got any speakers, so don't blame me if they swear or it's complete rubbish. I'm just trying to help you get a more complete picture of Scottish culture. Ken. If the URL's wrong, I'm sorry. Only part of it's turned blue. Lucy wrote: I have to credit monsieur Tim Hopkins with the big idea of getting Gregory as high up the aforementioned chart as possible. You big nelly, Tim. I voted for Blake Witch Project, Dougal and the Blue Cat, Whistle Down the Wind, Trouble in Store starring Norman Wisdom and Omien Damon 2. So that's horror, horror, religious drama, comedy and horror. No cutesy ladyboy pish. What happened to Barry Norman? Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MARTIN_CONNEELY at xxx.ie Thu Nov 18 17:47:44 1999 From: MARTIN_CONNEELY at xxx.ie (MARTIN_CONNEELY at xxx.ie) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:47:44 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I haven't just escaped from the nursery Message-ID: <8025682D.0061C15E.00@finance.irlgov.ie> Will wrote <> Yes: there's a book called "Behind the scenes at Who Wants to be a Millionaire" by Tom McGregor (honestly!). It's large format, there's only 128 pages, there are lots of pictures and it doesn't use joined up writing. Can't understand how nobody nominated it for the Laura Llew Literary List. Seems from Derek's post that there's a US version, too, of the programme that is. Does the host of that one canoodle with wives to be of UK royalty, too? Last night's show was quite daring. It included "muff" as a possibility for keeping eggs and teapots warm. And I also learned from the show that a Major is only just above Captain in UK army rankings. So I've had to revise my interpretation of Me and the Major - if he's still only a Major despite remembering Roxy Music in'72, he's as much of a loser as some of the other Murdoch beings we all know and love. Kate wrote: <> Didn't StarrySarah offer top marks once upon a time to anybody who could successfully use Me and the Major in that context? I miss her anti-Isobelling; only the odd swipe now. Kate also wrote: <<* Melismatic * A melodic style characterized by many notes sung to a single text syllable.>>, referring to Struan's dragged out vocals at times, which was ascribed on the list of yore to his having something in his mouth (besides his tongue!) when singing. Hearing The Boy done wrong again recently, it seems to me as if batteries are wearing down in something. Mark Casarotto wrote: <> If you make it to 40, it gets unbearable. A recent digest was called "369". When will the "LLPJ" digest arrive. I've been reading through old digests and the Struan that Owen Wizard used to hang around with in the Gent's (under "I didn't look at his winkie" in the archives?) seems very different to the Guardian Struan. Great to see the return of Brad. The night of his return there was a UK Channel 4 programme called "Deconstructing Brad". He's still mailing so mustn't have worked. Now for another few months of lurking. MartinC +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jayhol3 at xxx.com Thu Nov 18 19:10:35 1999 From: jayhol3 at xxx.com (Jamie Holman) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:10:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: oh dear....dont be cynical Message-ID: <19991118191035.23286.rocketmail@web703.mail.yahoo.com> Go to action records web page and check out tompaulins new single, I think that youse lot will like it. Ignore the lazy references to B+S...(they have a boy girl singing thing goin on..) think jonothan Richman, Galaxie 500 and the best stuff you ever heard on Sarah when you were young...think postcard..think stoned and dethroned... Also one of em hasnt made a video for b+S...Ive heard that this is a piss take due to their label constantly wanting them to go for the B+S thing......well worth a buy and the next ones out on earworm!! I thank you. Mick Travis. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From guile at xxx.br Thu Nov 18 19:36:03 1999 From: guile at xxx.br (Guilherme Barrella) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:36:03 -0200 Subject: Sinister: Drunk and cold Message-ID: <38345523.FD871327@telnet.com.br> Hello Sinister, As seen on quote of the day on nme: "All the B&S fans I've met have been hard drinking, chain-smoking all day and all nighters" Posted by CarsmileSteve on Belle and Sebastian Which made me laugh... hahaha... I know you were joking, aren't you? Oh, anyway, I fit in the description. And about weather thread, I quote "Take Me", by Chris and Carla: Take me to Siberia The coldest weather of any winter time And it'd be just like spring in California As long as I knew you were mine Beautiful huh? Oh, and if you want to hear my band, go to http://www.mp3.com/winniecooper It's everything there... I think I'm done. Back to lurking. love, gui +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From barbielovesyou at xxx.com Thu Nov 18 21:03:45 1999 From: barbielovesyou at xxx.com (Barbie's Ink Polaroids) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:03:45 0000 Subject: Sinister: HEART TO HEART Message-ID: Dear Journal, It's hard to know where to start. I've got so much to tell you! Anyway here goes: my name is Barbie and this is a book all about my life, where I can write about all my secrets. I'm going to stick a photo on every page as well, and maybe in years to come I'll look back through this book and it will make me think of all the good times I've had, and of course all the good times to come. I chose this as the first photo to be in my journal as it's from my first modelling assignment! I felt so proud I couldn't stop smiling for days afterwards. love Barbie Which of these words would you use to describe yourself (Draw a tick in the box) Quiet () Noisy () Tall () Short () Dark () Fair () Happy () Serious () Friendly () Shy () Tidy () Messy () Sporty () Artistic () TOP SECRET! My ten best points are: 1................. 2................. 3................. 4................. 5................. 6................. 7................. 8................. 9................. 10................ The thing I like best about myself is ..................................... get your free gURLmAIL at http://www.gURLmAIL.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris.jones at xxx.uk Thu Nov 18 21:04:24 1999 From: chris.jones at xxx.uk (Chris Jones) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:04:24 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Song For Europe Message-ID: <199911182141.VAA08173@smtp.saqnet.co.uk> Not entirely true, more a song for a little town in the middle of rural Suffolk. Every year we have a big singing competition at our school in which each house (comprising about 60 people) does a song. I am in charge of our houses competition this year, and I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for a song that would be fun to do, but would also give us a chance of winning and that 60 boys who may not be terribly musically gifted could sing. My favourite at the moment is "Go West" by the Pet Shop Boys. Suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks. Chris Jones. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hepaboy at xxx.com Fri Nov 19 00:57:10 1999 From: hepaboy at xxx.com (st. pete of purple lampshades) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 00:57:10 GMT Subject: Sinister: lavender leaves with bells on trees Message-ID: <19991119005710.64465.qmail@hotmail.com> what i think of when i think of b&s: heavy perfume on the carpet sinking in and lifting the dust like pleasure cold and sick and hungry with complaining she screams quietly without her normal vigor today is ice and i'm sweating like a dog given to me yesterday on a pushcart with bows and ribbons cheering with caution and reservation out the window they walk with cripples and cigarettes in the middle of a hailstorm car crash burning red horizon airbag useless safety strap snapped in under one milisecond and in that time a baby is born and i am lost and cars drive pas with hints of summer (lost) and sun dips (confused) jokes made a little too late ho how striking they lay it's a good time for a couplet now i'll dance and the wind stops its heavy breathing for a moment and i remain standing. in love, st. pete ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Thu Nov 18 13:13:23 1999 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steve Kado) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 08:13:23 -0500 Subject: Sinister: the world of public dancing. References: Message-ID: <3833FB73.FE4BDAFB@utoronto.ca> Arantxa Sanz observed that it would be nice if one could live in a musical for just a day. To that i say: be careful what you wish for. in highschool i hung out with a clique of music geeks (we were all jazz nazis and had a music homeform, we told jokes about cors anglais...it was terrible) and some of our number were somewhat flakey and crossed over into the world of drama to get in touch with the flakey side. these people were the music theater people. if more than two of them would happen to meet in one place coincidentally theatrics, singing etc. were sure to ensue. i glared at them, thinking 'fatuous morons! i own cecil taylor albums...you do not! surely i am a genius'. my ex still goes to an arts highschool that has a terrible 'fame' complex. then i discovered the joys of gene kelly and now hes up there with the big three coolest guys in the world david byrne/tony perkins and marc bell. > I already have devised some coreography with 'A summer wasted': it is the > beginning of the film, and the main character wonders what he/she ( I > think is a 'he'...)has made of the sunny time now that is cold and leaves > are falling.Very Minelli. i think this is brilliant. i'd be in any musical you care to mount. can i play the stephen merrit inspired character? also, i voted for 5 films at that bbc site being: gregory's grill, zardoz, harold and maud, amateur and the holy mountain. i'd like to recomend that if each sinisterite votes for the holy mountain and zardoz on their lists then we can not only give teen drama a boost but also silly, pseudo-psychological gonzo exploitation sci fi a boost as well. skadevento +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skag_heaven at xxx.com Fri Nov 19 01:20:40 1999 From: skag_heaven at xxx.com (Tim Gardner) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 01:20:40 GMT Subject: Sinister: Transmitting sounds back to base... Message-ID: <19991119012040.14254.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey Sinistereanies, Flying Saucer Attack and Spacemen 3 mentioned on Sinister? Is the world going mad?* I haven't had a Belle & Sebastian related dream yet, I'm hoping that I don't have one. I'd be terrified. I once thought that Isobel was following me but I don't think she was - it was all coincidence. Someone did follow me around once, it was last month. I'd be out somewhere, turn round and she was standing by my right elbow. One time I actually jumped in fright, scaring her as much as she was scaring me. Stalking is the new black. The closest I got to a B&S dream was leaving Tigermilk playing when I went to sleep the other night and waking up an hour before I had to get up. I spent a very enjoyable hour in a warm bed listening to Struan's dulcet tones. Lovely. As someone pointed out the other night, you can't spell "sweet" without "twee". Tim * - mad in a good way, obviously. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ELZober at xxx.com Fri Nov 19 01:46:01 1999 From: ELZober at xxx.com (ELZober at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:46:01 EST Subject: Sinister: Isobel Campbell Choked on Own Headscarf Joy! Message-ID: <0.60ffdc7c.256605d9@aol.com> hmmm....... common sense tells me that i should just keep my mouth shut.... but as i have always been one to fly by the seat of my pants..... there is something i need to get off my chest.... the above subject bar really bothers me..... who would find "Joy!" in something like that?..... sure, i know that a lot of the 'kidnapping' and 'killing' of Bel is all done in jest.... but i don't find it funny..... i don't want to step out of my bounds here, but i am friends with Bel.... i know her to be a very nice girl and someone i would not wish bad things to happen to for any reason.... why do people feel the need to discuss the Belle's in personal terms anyway? does anyone on this list actaully know Isobel, or Stuart or Mick? (and yes, i know there are some, but the people i know who know them don't post fantasies about them.... please don't think me ignorant of the fact that the Belle's have quite a few friends on the Sinsinter list..... but, please bear with me, i have a point here somewhere.... if i can just find it....) it doesn't matter if Stuart is nice or a total asshole, he makes great music... for all you know Bel gives Mary (of Something About Mary) a run for her money in the kindness department.... my point is, why does this matter? have we run dry of our creative resources that we are now resorting to bashing members of B&S in jest? hm..... doens't that kind of negate the purpose of this List? what kills me the most, and is ironic in a comical way.... is that so many people on this list dream of meeting Stuart, they go on about how he is perfect and whatever..... then they plot Bel's untimely demise.... hello? Stuart is a friend of Bel's, don't you think he might take offense at some of what gets said? .... if you think i am over reacting, put her name in the search engine and alot of what you find is negative and potentially hurtful.... why? my mom always said, if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all..... no one writes about Chris or Stevie being kidnapped or strangled to death by a pair of polyester flairs.... all the jesting is left for Bel..... what really amuses me is when people drone on about her music.... why? the person who started the band that is the VERY reason behind this mailing list is the person who helped start her music career down the path it is travelling... Stuart plays on her solo albums and is obviously very supportive of Bel and her music... so who are we to judge the way some of do? .... would you be willing to say that to her face or Stuarts? this is the internet and anyone is free to search the archives.... wouldn't the person who writes nasty things about Bel feel like a arse if they ever met one of the Belle's and that Belle remembered what the listee had said about someone else in their own band? i would bet $100 that if anyone on this list had the chance to meet Bel, they'd walk right up, introduce themselves as a big fan and not even mention negative comments they've posted, even if it was in jest..... i don't mean to harp on this nor am i trying to pick on anyone.... and i am not trying to preach, i usually only take the moral high ground on Sundays.... today i have made an exception... ha ha ha the point is, for a bunch of twee fuckers we can be pretty nasty with our words when we want to be.... me included... and shouldn't this be a forum for good feelings and nice words? the rest of the pop world does enough B&S bashing, i don't think it should go on here.... i know that people will do what they want, and i am in NO way trying to tell people what to post.... i just wonder if people realize that what they post about someone will probably be read by that person or a friend of that person... basically, i like being on the list, despite the whole Select quoting fiasco... bastards.... but i don't like reading posts that are negative about Bel and only Bel...write a story about how they all die from inhaling too much corduroy lint... fine... but don't sinlge one person out... ALL THE TIME.... enough is enough and that is about enough from me as well.... snoggs elle +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From margarita at xxx.com Fri Nov 19 04:03:53 1999 From: margarita at xxx.com (triumphant loser) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 22:03:53 -0600 Subject: Sinister: whats the deal? Message-ID: <001301bf3243$18b55d80$4a4afacf@oemcomputer> I was just wondering what is the deal with all these B&S related dreams that people relate? I'm not coming down on anyone, or trying to start some sort of argument....i am just curious. It all seems that the whole thing kind of trite ( you know like love at first sight) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From isolation at xxx.net Fri Nov 19 04:30:06 1999 From: isolation at xxx.net (.gibby.) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:30:06 -0500 Subject: Sinister: MP3 FTP References: <001b01bedc46$e7491360$81288018@oemcomputer.ne.mediaone.net> Message-ID: <005e01bf3246$c1daba60$81288018@ne.mediaone.net> Raindrops FTP 24.128.40.129 Name: raindrops PW: falling 1/2 ratio indie/emo/shoegaze/hardcore/pop represent, yo. <3 gibby. http://people.ne.mediaone.net/isolation/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From margarita at xxx.com Fri Nov 19 05:02:29 1999 From: margarita at xxx.com (triumphant loser) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:02:29 -0600 Subject: Sinister: yeah i know....what an ass, am i right? Message-ID: <001301bf324b$47e9bda0$4a4afacf@oemcomputer> Hey im sorry, i didnt mean to stir up a hornets nest here. I am really curious about the dream thing(seems kind of odd thats all). As to me being a new guy, yes i am. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bferneyhough at xxx.uk Fri Nov 19 09:12:47 1999 From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (Ben Ferneyhough) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:12:47 GMT Subject: Sinister: Tapetree - new branch. Message-ID: <199911190912.JAA11189@brookes.ac.uk> For those of you who missed it last time I posted, here's the second and final call for anyone wanting to join the tapetree I'm setting up. This was a huge and exciting idea, run by Kevan Cooke a while ago. What I'll need is your name and the town where you reside, UK residents only, sorry. What happens is, you make a 90 minute mix tape or CD of your favourite music (no B&S though, we all are fans of them), then it gets sent round in a jolly circle, and each 2 or 3 weeks you get the next tape on the list. I'll explain it all a lot better with the rules and the like to all who want to join the tapetree. So, just remember these 2 points for now: *1* You have to live in the UK. *2* Mail me OFF LIST ie PRIVATELY. Ben x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From daftpunk at xxx.au Fri Nov 19 09:13:39 1999 From: daftpunk at xxx.au (Kin WOO) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:13:39 +0800 (WST) Subject: Sinister: Kin's update and also request for BUFFY trade for listees living in Sydney:) Message-ID: Hi sinisterinies it's your friendly mostly lurker-occasional-ranter-and-raver speakin' here. Exams are ended!!! The year endearingly referred to as hell is over- hopefully!!! (pray for no supps, pray for no supps!) No more weeks of 2hour sleeps and massive stress-outs- at least not until next year:) Great huh? Have also got two new jobs- one as a waiter in a hotel and one raising money for my medical community. The first job I haven't actually started- just a lot of training and orientation. But am nervous- have never done anything like this before. You gotta do stuff like hold three hot plates, hold two bottles of wine in the ONE hand, hold a tray of drinks all in a particular manner, not to mention wheel 12 chairs and lots of other finicky/tricky stuff. WISH ME LUCK! the other is basically telemarketing (yes the lowest of the low) but with a difference that makes it marginally more bearable. They actually send out the brochure to people (all alumni of the medical school) telling about our appeal and if the peeps didn't want a call, they should have written back and said so. Ostensibly then we are only calling those people who didn't MIND being called. But that hasn't stopped people being very rude to me:( Ah well it's all good money... Am also really interested in "Nalda Said" by the lovely Mr David. My copy of the Face describes it as sweet but unsettling (or words to those effect) which sounds just AMAZING. what do peeps think of it, let me know if it's a great book to get. Also does anyone know when it will be available in Australia??? (official people like David and Katrina please tell if ya know!) Finally all listees living in Sydney, please please PLEASE tape episodes of season one of "BUFFY" (best show on telly!) that are airing now on Channel seven on Monday, 10:30 PM. I really wanna get my hands on those episodes starting from "the Puppet Show" (this coming week). I can make it really worth your while. I have TONS AND HEAPS of rare and live Belle and Sebastian, Tindersticks, Belly, Palace,Tanya Donelly, Black Box Recorder, Dot Allison, One Dove, portishead, Garbage, Sparklehorse, Beth Orton, Radiohead, Pulp, lambchop and TONS MORE!!! Have also videotape performances of Garbage, Tindersticks, Belly and suede and more. so some Sydney listees, please take heed and tape those extremely desirable episodes and write back to me privately at the above address ok hope to hear from some of you soon (minding that i won't have access to internet for a bit so might take a while to reply) seeya Kin Woo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Fri Nov 19 12:24:52 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:24:52 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Come, dancing Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22A2DF8A@SERVER1> Dear Sinister, Elle Zober reminded us: "but i am friends with Bel" That's nice for you - thanks for sharing it with us (again) :-) She then emoted: "why do people feel the need to discuss the Belle's in personal terms anyway? does anyone on this list actaully know Isobel, or Stuart or Mick?" But don't you think you are the one discussing them in personal terms? I find the fact that you *know* them is more likely to introduce exactly the element of discomfort into the list which you seem to find in Sarah/LJ/whoever's posts. It seems to me that to most people, the band fulfil the traditional role of the unobtainable popstars, whose job is to cause an emotional response in their fans. And this list is for discussing precisely that. I think Sarah's posts are hilarious, and the way that her letters are funny, eye-opening *and* about Belle and Sebastian doesn't "negate the purpose of this List", but is precisely what the list should be about. Even though I don't agree with her. :-) I'm off to make my directorial dreams reality, well, sort of. If you need me, I'll be in the studio, luvvies :-) Mark xxx ******************************************************************* The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From igh1 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 19 12:56:17 1999 From: igh1 at xxx.uk (igh1) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:56:17 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: judy and the dream of belles In-Reply-To: <001301bf324b$47e9bda0$4a4afacf@oemcomputer> Message-ID: i have to agree that it is quite curious so many listees seem to have dreams about people that, in general, they've never met. saying that, however, i have had my own b&s dream which was bonkers to say the least, in which i was trying to convert my friends and then suddenly the whole group (but there were only five or six members - i told stuart that he had lost some people, but he wouldn't speak to me) turned up, and then left with my friends. i chased them on a unicycle into a cave because i wanted their autographs, and rode upside down on the ceiling, weaving in between stalgmites (or whatever the ones on cave rooves are called) before looking down into this huge lake and seeing the reflection of all 8 members of the band there. yet there was no sign of them anywhere, and when i looked back into the lake, the reflection had gone, and i fell off my unicycle into the lake and . . . woke up. if anyone out there has joseph-esque (as in technicolour dreamcoat) qualities, please let me know what this dream means. or alternatively call the men in white coats if you think i am a danger to society . . . :) i don't think that people dream of the band members individually (just talking from personal experience here, so no offence anyone), but BELLE AND SEBASTIAN as a whole, as if the group were themselves one person. this means that even if you haven't met them, it is still possible to dream of them, just like i have dreamt of other people i have never met (and they aren't necessarily famous, images just appear in my head) . . . of course, i'm probably wrong, but i don't really dream of other bands, and i've only ever had the one b&s dream. unless you count the day i bought an original tigermilk, and dreamt there was a crease on the cover, and as i tried to straighten it out, i dropped it on the floor, and the corner creased, forcing the cover to kind of float off in a puddle . . . on a final note (simply cos i like lurking, being one of the fabled creatures of the shadows etc), i'd like to say i agree with elzober. now, i don't want to start a huge "i agree/disagree" debate here like the one that nearly killed our beloved sinister, so if you want to flame me or whatever please do it off list, but i don't see how anyone can say they like b&s and then promptly insult other members (usually isobel). i don't know any of the band, and i've never met them, but even if i did, and for some strange reason disliked a member (although i'm sure i wouldn't :)), i wouldn't tell the list, simply because i know at least one of the band reads the list, as do many of their friends. it just ain't fair. people don't attack other sinisterines (usually), so why attack members of the band, especially when it is likely to hurt them???!! okey dokey, that's all i'm going to say on the subject, and please reply to me off list . . . if you want to reply at all. back to lurkerdom for me, ian. ********************* Ian Hatcher rutherford jcc ents#1 igh1 at ukc.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Fri Nov 19 13:27:23 1999 From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 05:27:23 PST Subject: Sinister: ZZZZZZZZZZZ Message-ID: <19991119132724.82213.qmail@hotmail.com> YO! OK!I am sooooooo sleepy i'm going to fall from my chair,on the floor,in front of everyone in the computer room. Last night i got wasted!At last the union had an indie-i so hate this tag-night and,guess what?YES!Sleep the clock around being heard out loud from the bloody Dudley's su speakers!B&S song in the union?A MIRACLE!I was jumping up and down like a little elf! That good.And then,my friend turns to me and says that:"THEY ARE GOTH!".BLOODY HELL!And enter Zoe:jumped on his neck,put my two hands on his throat and squeezed!-"THEY ARE NOT GOTH!TAKE THAT BACK YOU LITTLE @*#!@#*!".(first time he ever heard B&S).Why goth?Why? The other day as I was looking out of my window to the park/woods we have opposite the halls I saw a fox standing in the middle of the road right underneath my window!"Fox in the snow",I thought and I was so happy!(YEYYYYYYYY!!!and the crowd goes..) I haven't slept for the past 29 hours.Spent the night talking with a friend in the kitchen.And I went to a bloody boring lecture this morning.William Blake,we did.FRUITCAKE he was.I quote:"At the age of four he saw God peeping out of his window in Bloomsbary" GOD?PEEPING OUT?Where has this world come to?I wonder....To be honest,I was hallucinating in the lecture.Do yous all think I saw that God thing and I don't remeber?FUCKIN' HELL!!!!!! TIMBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BOOM! (that's me,on the floor and bubbles coming out of my mouth-BLOP!BLOP!BLOP!) -oops!steady now Zo!- MY KINGDOM FOR MY BED! BYE!-BLOP!-BYE!-BLOP!BLOP!...... ZOE THE ELFISH ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From funkyseb at xxx.com Fri Nov 19 13:32:28 1999 From: funkyseb at xxx.com (funkyseb at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 99 13:32:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: A cup of wee she would admit to me Message-ID: Chris Jones wrote: >Every year we have a big singing competition at our school in which each >house (comprising about 60 people) does a song. I am in charge of our >houses competition this year, and I was wondering if anyone had any >suggestions for a song that would be fun to do, but would also give us a >chance of winning and that 60 boys who may not be terribly musically gifted >could sing. Hmm. What about the Ace of Spades, by Motorhead? then it wouldn't matter if your lads aren't 100pc spot on, and you might stand a chance of coming first, for originality....mind you, you win some, you lose some....it's all the same to me. I did one of these house music competitions last year. Everyone else did rompy tompy tomp on the piano and tootie toot on the bugle, and it was all very nice til me and ben got up and forgot the chords to Judy and the Dream of horses. It was much slower than I thought it would be, and after struggling through about a dozen "hor-or-or-or-or-or-orses" we just said fuck it and went home with red cheeks and a battered guitar. So my advice is stuff the competition, and go to bed instead, and lie there imagining you're struan in his p!o!p! trews and everyone fancies you. By the way, I was walking down Lavender Hill the other day, and in a charity shop window, barely a highland fling from Jeepster's offices, was......... CHRIS GEDDES JACKET!!!!!!! This is, lest we forget, the jacket that reminded Seymour Stein of Johnny Marr, the jacket that stole the show when it appeared on that BBC Documentary, a piece of history, steeped in the juices of Chris! And all for the bargainiferous price of £18.60! Presumably, the Bellesters need all the cash they can get, what with recording their 24 disc epic Xtra Long Player, so they're flogging stuff to pay for more studio time. I'll keep an eye out for the others' contributions, and keep you informed. In the meantime Chris fans, get down there and buy it! I would have, but then I realized that I didn't want to look like a twat wearing a travel blanket. And it looked like it smelled of wee. Erm, can't think of an ending seb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starpiekat at xxx.uk Fri Nov 19 13:51:30 1999 From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:51:30 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Isobel Campbell drinks a nice cup of tea! Message-ID: <19991119135130.13878.rocketmail@web1703.mail.yahoo.com> Ah hello again! Hooray! An ARGUEMENT. You should all know by now these are what I live for! Thanks Ellie! Who woulda thought it, Isobel becoming a matter of contention. Certainly not me, as thinking about Isobel for more than the time that it takes to write posts of mine causes me immense mental pain and tiredness and I then have to go and listen to the soothing tones of King Tubby. Who is the badgers nadgers. Incidentally, I'm sure I mentioned before that in Preston there was a dub night run by "King Telletubby". Very funny eh? Eh? Eh. Well, I've not heard anything about Bel which would cause me to like her, in fact she causes me some quite mediocre anguish whenever the few times the issue of her presence bothers me. I don't go on about wanting to strangle the rest of the members of the band, cos I quite like 'em. Apart from Stuart David who honks of rancid piss and I fully intend to throw rotten tomatoes at him the next time I see him. But at least choking Bel on her headscarf would get rid of TWO things I find nigglingly annoying. Headscarfs belong to grannies! Grannies, FIGHT FOR YOUR HEADSCARFS before they become the exclusive property of stupid art students and bad "song"-writing girls. Elle: > what really amuses me is when people drone on about her music.... why? We're just following the droning example of her music? But without flutes and inspid vocal? > travelling... Stuart plays on her solo albums and is obviously very > supportive of Bel and her music... so who are we to judge the way some of do? I think this is where some of us discover that we may have different opinions and tastes to Stuart Murdoch. Thank the lord, else I'll have to start liking Orange Juice and I must say that the only album I've heard is very poor. But Stuart Murdoch (At least Smelly Stuart D seems to have the taste to avoid the Genital Waves so, um...props) does seem to be up for a bit of socialist revolution. Which I just can't resist. By the way, if anybody wants to have a giggle and smash a few things on Nov 25th, theres another demonstration against abolition of grants and tuition fees in Lunding Town. Brilliant, I hope there'll be some new chants to learn this time. I hear my friend is taking a hammer along. Yikes. I'll take a teddy bear. > who writes nasty things about Bel feel like a arse if they ever met one of > the Belle's and that Belle remembered what the listee had said about someone > else in their own band? Its happened, and I giggled and went a bit red. So did the Belle. Then we talked about gay sex. It's generally a good ice-breaker. > basically, i like being on the list, despite the whole Select quoting > fiasco... bastards.... So, um, what exactly happened with all of that again? > Bel and only Bel...write a story about how they all die from inhaling too > much corduroy lint... Why, never let it be said I wish to disappoint! I will post it tomorrow. Byee Sarah xxx ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koogydelbbog at xxx.com Fri Nov 19 13:49:42 1999 From: koogydelbbog at xxx.com (andrew dean) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 05:49:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: the 70s WHO on tv Message-ID: <19991119134942.15097.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com> last night i finally got around to watching the programme about the 70s WHO that i'd taped from bbc2 earlier in the week. it was great, took me right back to when i was young. the music! the visuals! the old fashioned, er, fashions! everything. and apparently there's a whole series of them showing early evenings on bbc2, i suggest you all tune in. the first four episodes are called 'Spearhead from Space' for some reason, i guess that would be like the 4 sides of a double 'concept' album. or something. i like the bloke they've chosen to play the lead as well (he was also very good in 'wurzel gummidge'). oh, my sticks and straw! andy (and yes, i know 'spearhead from space' was originally broadcast in 1969) oh, moving house again soon, didn't have a lot of choice in the matter but there you go. it's only 1.18 miles (according to shell's geostar web thing) but i'm going to need the help of some big burly men to help me load and unload the van so if hopkins is reading this can i ask him to see if trousers is available that saturday? 8) (saturday the 4th is the plan, the new place is situated perfectly so that we can all pop down to the free Trembling Blue Stars gig that afternoon) (someone to drive the van would be nice too) (and, actually, if anyone HAS a van that i could borrow then that would be useful as well) (thanks) but in the meantime, i'm off to los angeles tomorrow... ===== andrew dean (koogydelbbog at yahoo.com) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Fri Nov 19 14:03:46 1999 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:03:46 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Twees and busses and comrades Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB6970C41B@park_ex> Firstly, a quick message to Mr Ferneyhough: I want to be on the tape twee but every time I try and mail you it comes beck "message undeliverable". I don't know if anyone else is having the same probs, but I don't know how else to contact you. Sorry about that :) Right, on to other stuff I was on a bus last night (hurray, another bus story). It wasn't the bus I usually get, and it took a very "scenic" route (ie twice as long as usual) from Cheltenham to Gloucester. It was also a double decker (my favourite). So I was sat on the top deck listening to tigermilk on my walkman and it sounded even better than usual, especially as the other people on the bus seemed to suit the songs perfectly, as did the suburban parts of town we were travelling through. It also made me think about you lot and all the other bus stories we've had recently. Anyway, the reason for me making this journey was to attend a rather boring union meeting. After the meeting, the only other person under 30 came up to me and said "ooh Belle and Sebastian" (I had a badge on, as always). So it turns out he used to be on the list "back in the day" and he's a really nice guy and he's a librarian (as i know so many of you are :)). As we were the only "youngsters" there, we are now the Youth officers for the branch and will have to think up lots of exciting things to get "the kids" (ie anyone under 30) involved in UNISON. I'm sure comrade Struan would approve. Maybe we could get him to come and play a benefit for us . So all in all a very B&S kinda night. Gui mentioned my NME quote of the day. "All the B&S fans I've met have been hard drinking, chain-smoking all day and all nighters" What can I say. I was defending us against a scurrilous attack of being twee and foppish and wet. "Already excited about watching the telly tomorrow night" CarsmileSteve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.org Fri Nov 19 15:09:59 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:09:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Convince me Message-ID: So I got a bunch of records in the mail this past week because I bought my friend a record player for chanukah/xmas and I wanted to get her some records to go with it. I bought her the boy with the arab strap an wavelength by poundsign to go with and got myself some records to go with it. The autocollants cd is good and I like the new Holiday Flyer album as well, although the LP makes me sad, because it reminds me that my copy of the holiday flyer 7" snowballing skips on the b-side during my favorite track. I'm desperately seeking a new copy. Anyway, I also sold my car this week, and even though I am using most of the cash to deflect the cost on a new car and to help pay for all of the xmas gifts I bought, but I also figured out where this really cool record store in cleveland was located. So then it got me to thinking--I'm leary about some bands. perhaps the Sinister list can help. For instance, why should I buy the Gentle Waves? Of all of the B & S related bands, I am the most leary about Gentle Waves. I see the CD often, and yet something always keeps me from picking it up. Convince me otherwise. And what is the deal with Felt? Should I buy a felt album? What other bands should I look into? I am seriously trying to fill a void here, so I need the help. Boy, I need help with focus. Brandt "We'll be rich. Rich as Nazis" --C. Montgomery Burns +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vlass at xxx.com Fri Nov 19 14:44:07 1999 From: vlass at xxx.com (vlass at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:44:07 -0500 Subject: Sinister: i know someone who's afraid of y2k... Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19991119144407.00a4c59c@mail.interlog.com> ...even though he refuses to say it outright, my father is terrified of what might happen on december 31st, 1999. how else to explain the dozens and dozens of canned goods he's been amassing? not to mention jumbo bags of flour and sugar because we all know that when the electricity goes off and the world goes haywire, sugar will be our new currency. he's trying to buy a camping stove now, but apparently all the cheaper ones are sold out and he's not willing to spend hundreds on a fancier brand, so maybe some logic is kicking in. i don't mind as long as there's no gun in the house. ha. anyway, other than the looper concert in the summer, i heard that absolutely wonderful song yesterday at laura's "songs for children" in toronto. i would like to publically thank laura for organizing such a great night. really, i think that was the most positive club-y experience i've had in toronto in months. the music was the best - i think i could get used to hearing belle and sebastian being blasted over loudspeakers in smoky rooms... all the magnetic fields/6ths songs... swooon - and the company was excellent. i'm sorry i had to leave abruptly to catch the subway.. it was a nice, peaceful walk to the station though. and i am skipping class today. ooohahh. teri xx you don't remember paris, hon, but it remembers you: http://weatherpattern.tripod.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From BrnToEnd at xxx.com Fri Nov 19 15:02:44 1999 From: BrnToEnd at xxx.com (BrnToEnd at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:02:44 EST Subject: Sinister: Pika Pika Pikeachuuuuu Message-ID: <0.b6b882e5.2566c094@aol.com> Hey kids, First of all, Thanks for everyone who replied to my message with book recommendations. I'll go out and pick up a few when I get time. Sorry I couldn't reply to everyone's message sperate but i have so much work to do lately. >:( Thank god's its friday! and then soon thanksgiving break! ::rips clothes off and runs around screamin' like a frat boy:: Today I dont have much to do either. Not even a test on a Friday. that's amazing. Afterschool im going to get A expresso and coffee to celebrate. I've been fookin tired all week waking up like more then usual. Last night I saw "Much ado about nothing". Very funny...I forget how funny it was. but the highlight of the night was my Principal Mr.Waxman standing next to Graffiti that said DEATH TO WAXMAN! and he seemed not to notice. Well I gotta go get ready for school and pack my lunch and get beat up by the meanie football team. Cheers, -Damon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk Fri Nov 19 15:11:16 1999 From: pamela.hutchinson at xxx.uk (Pamela Hutchinson) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 16:11:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: We could go to the cinema, where everything would be so tall Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From mrsaudiac at xxx.com Fri Nov 19 16:47:28 1999 From: mrsaudiac at xxx.com (Jennifer Phillips-Bacher) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:47:28 CST Subject: Sinister: A Revolution in Decorating! Message-ID: <19991119164729.14812.qmail@hotmail.com> Oh Sinister, baby, you know I only neglect you because I love you. Maybe someday you'll understand. Hey you! It's been about 6 months, hasn't it? Hello one and all. I won't bother introducing myself to the new people because you'll all forget anyway (don't insist you won't!). Just know that I love you for you. So a few weeks ago, I decided something must be done to the bathroom stalls in Chicago. At a cafe on a Saturday afternoon, I snuck into the ladies' and was thrilled to find a chalkboard hung on the wall right next to the toilet. Written there was your typical "for a good time, call Lisa", and "Ani DiFranco RAWKS!", and other dippy hippy nonsense. I wrote "We Rule the School" in lavender, as time was too short to write the Great American Novel as I had planned. Later that evening, I had to go again, but this time we were witnessing the glory that is Dean Wareham with his Luna people. Scrawled on the stall in a black Sharpie was: On a bus stop rudely carved [sic] "we rule the school" so i was happy to see the phrase crop up once again, but felt an intense desire to do some editing. At that moment, with my knickers around my ankles (ooh!), I devised PROJECT PASTIE. It's a revolution in bathroom decorating, I swear! I invite all of you to participate, JOIN MY CAUSE! it'll be an international sensation. Just scribble phrases all over club and pub restrooms. I find that "are you happy with yourself?" makes a nice intro. Perhaps "you go disco and I'll go my way" would suit others. Pick a line, any line. All I ask is that you be subtle about it. There's nothing worse than an indiscreet vandal. Although the Vandals, undoubtedly, knew not how to be subtle, because, really, how subtle can you be when pillaging villages? or villaging pillages. Oh how i ramble! In summary: YOU: marker in mano BATHROOM STALL: your favorite B & S lyrics. And yet I continue! Just a quick word to any Chicago sinisters. The Lucksmiths are playing Lounge Ax on Wednesday, opening up for 2 bands whose names I can't be bothered to remember. If anyone is interested in meeting up beforehand (maybe around 7-8?), email me privately. The seeds of the Great Chicago Sinister Meet-Up have been planted in my head, and I've been working on it, I promise. I'll post here and on the Creepster message board when I get it sorted out. yours forever, jenn pb ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Fri Nov 19 18:38:43 1999 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:38:43 EST Subject: Sinister: A small request for info... Message-ID: <0.14a728e0.2566f333@aol.com> I saw a program on a US public access forum today and it piqued my interest. The show revolved around this very romantic German couple (now residing in Toronto, they say) who take trips everywhere and then come back and tell everyone about them. I believe they have a company called Bonaventure Travel Productions, if this rings any bells. Anyway, I turned on the program halfway through this short segment they were doing in a church of some sorts, called the National Museum. (I believe they said it was in Germany, but I've been on antihistamines all day, so that could be way off) The church was evidently a museum of old and rare musical peices, like organs, player pianos, player violins and most especially, music boxes. They said they had 900 different peices, and over 600 are played 'round the clock to provide the most amazing sound I have ever heard in my life. The music boxes were just incredible too: one of them was a mime that is writing a letter by candlelight, and as the candle would burn out his head slowly droops until it hits his chest, when he raises his head, lights the lamp again and begins writing again. Purely amazing. If anyone has ever seen this program, or been to this church, and can pass on some info my way, I'd be much appreciative. Ok, later Steve C. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dee at xxx.ie Fri Nov 19 18:48:29 1999 From: dee at xxx.ie (Denise Power) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 18:48:29 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: how belle and sebastian sponspored a minor love affair. Message-ID: hello...um is this on...I don't know if I'm allowed write yet even though I'm closet old skool listee but i gave up for a while because finals were looming and such things. yeah, so : brrr be be be be A story about how belle and sebastian caused someone and me to kiss !!!! excuse the grammar, it was excitement I tell you. Last summer, I whittled away my days in wee Edinburgh. I was wearing my , then new, study at stow t-shirt out one night and the ridey barman in the Jaffacake commented on it. Because the cheesy hits were blaring out I couldn't really understand and it was partially due to his thick Glaswegian accent but you know yourself, that level of flirtation doesn't really need a thorough grasp of scottash dialects and decent acoustics. I left the bar feeling pleased that I had been singled out like that because of my teeshirt and in gratitude proceeded to spill drink on it and drop ash and generally sweat a little in it. After a dance marathon I had to britney spears, I decided thatI wanted to kiss this barman for complimenting my teeshirt so I went over but he was busily talking to a girl who didn't have a b&S t-shirt on at all but an item of clothing that only passed as clothes on a technicality so scantily clad was she. Bitchbag. But away I knew my t-shirt would get me a boy and , well thats not really relevant... Time went on, we had the odd chat , here and there, I still vaguely fancied but had bigger and more outrageous crushes on other boys to really concern myself with him. Then the Jaffacake closed down. What will my little B&S boy do now, I oft wondered to myself. Quietly, when i was alone. AS chance would have it, he got another job, this time in the cowgate area, where the delightful Cowgate Hostel was, you may know it, the sheets were never changed - I worked there, we weren't allowed change them, it wasn't "cost effective" to. Anyway, I gasped and said, "boy from jaffacake , how are you" he gave me his ridey grin and we spoke, I was beaming as we left and as time went on again, we had more chats , mainly about b&s - it was great. One night in subway, him and his friends joined me and my friends, it was really exciting and he told me that he bought the study at stow t-shirt. Just like me!!! Oh what a Lovely boy, I whimpered to myself, desperately wanting to kiss me full on the mouth there and then. He told me that I should give him some of my badges because he never saw them live and I did. I agreed and we kissed !!!!! Hurray!!! said my friends to each other, now she'll shut up about him and move on to someone else, and god forgive them for thinking such a thing but sure weren't they just going by the old pattern, but what they didn't fully appreciate was that, this was a belle and sebastian instigated kiss; I couldn't forget it. To be honest, as a kiss , it didn't stand up that well by itself, but when you put it in context, wow !! But sadly, for him, context was not an issue because then a couple of nights later, I went into the pub where he worked and said very drunkenly, "....(his name) wha're ya duing afhteeeer woooorrrrk ? Weaaaarr goin' taw Subway (cringe I know) , wanna cooome ?, I did a bit of that staggering thing for effect. He looked crossly at me and said something mean and my heart sank and luckily an old crassy man engaged me in some lewd conversation shortly after because I would have just crumpled otherwise. Well as it happens, his karma was up because a couple of days later , he got severly beaten up. Yeah, it's not a very happy end to the story , is it ? Oh I didn't get pepole around to do that, it just happened, there were alot of random attacks and his friends were stil nice to us so it just shows really doesn't it, that even people who like Belle and sebastan can be cruel m heartless individuals. Sob. So : it's kind of a moral to the story if you would like to take it up like that. Em, that's all thanks. (offstage) how do I turn this off...oh yeah. thanks. er bye. dee +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From craigrm at xxx.uk Fri Nov 19 19:41:49 1999 From: craigrm at xxx.uk (Craig) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 19:41:49 -0000 Subject: Sinister: throwing satsumas at Ringo Starr Message-ID: <005301bf32c6$208a2120$bce693c3@orlando1> That mild bit of pretend ex-Beatle harassing is OK as I once said "hello" to him in Harrods, and besides it'd have to be shot in a million for a satsuma to do any real damage. And we all know his solo material is every bit as classy as the stuff he did with the Beatles. Call me crazy if you must (56% of qualified Medical Practitioners already do) but I suspect that there's some sort of spooky psychic link going on between of own FunkySeb and PunkySarah. Please note that they both posted within 1/2 hour of each other using the word "cup" in their subject lines and both made scandalous allegations that different members of B&S smelled of wee. Now unless a lack of hygiene is a well know problem in indie circles then that's too convenient to be a co-incidence. Starry also tried to rouse the masses with the following kind invite: "By the way, if anybody wants to have a giggle and smash a few things on Nov 25th, there's another demonstration against abolition of grants and tuition fees in Lunding Town. Brilliant, I hope there'll be some new chants to learn this time. I hear my friend is taking a hammer along. Yikes. I'll take a teddy bear." Bringing a hammer sounds a little extreme, but maybe you could hang on a few days longer and combine protests with the "Stop the city" gang (Nov 30th I believe). Working for a money grabbing, child-labour encouraging, Nazi gold accumulating Bank like I previously did, we always got told to "dress down" and try not to attract attention when moving through the crowds on such occasions. Anyone who's ever meet me will realise that "dressing down" has never presented me with too much of a problem and last time I bravely ventured out into the rabid mob wearing my beloved Stow T-shirt. Far from being poked with sharp sticks for my perceived capitalist leanings I was greeted with many variations on the "nice shirt" theme and was even asked "How was Bowlie ?" (I wasn't there sadly). So our fair Scottish p!o!p!sters have obviously captured the hearts of the Stop the City crew, maybe it's time for everyone to rise up and sweep Stuart and pals into government. Tony Blair will be pre-occupied with the sale at Mothercare so the transition of power will be both smooth and bloodless (that's assuming Mr "Hammer" behaves himself). All that'd remain after that would be to appoint a new cabinet and commission Sir Cliff to re-write the National Anthem so it includes the word "cunting". Hmmm, ignore me - that's just a flight of fancy and might not actually happen. I think technically I've also just committed a capital crime - blimey. Anyway is the lovely Sarah Cracknell still being held prisoner by some devious listee ?, is she in danger of becoming the Terry Waite of the late 90's ?. And Squirrels, if you're listening please free Miss Campbell as a gesture of goodwill - the Helicopter you asked for is fully fuelled and ready to go and the unmarked acorns have been transferred to your Swiss Bank account. Time for me to slip quietly back into lurkerland, Craig xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cfarber at xxx.com Fri Nov 19 19:41:21 1999 From: cfarber at xxx.com (Christina Farber) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:41:21 PST Subject: Sinister: ready for another introduction? Message-ID: <19991119194121.94049.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello all cardie-wearing, biscuit-nibbling bedroom saddo devotees... This is my first post, I'm feeling a little bit saucy this fine Pennsylvania autumn afternoon so's I decided to introduce myself. I've been a B&S listener for less than a year, having changed my musical preferences, from mainstream shite that I didn't take much of an interest in, to less mainstream and some indie---my B&S-in-the-cd-carousel-all-the-time-phase, to evolve into the being I am today, a diehard Mike Patton fanatic. I guess the main reason I am so provoked to write a post is that when I was comparing the Mr. Bungle (one of Mike Patton's band, he was the vocalist for the former band, Faith No More) mailing list I receive to ol' sinister, which keeps my mailbox full, I noticed an increased hostility at Sinister. Now granted there are many factors to consider such as Sinister is much larger than Bungle and Mr. Bungle is on tour which serves as a uniting event for all listees, even so, one would think fans of a certain genre of music would reflect an attitude similar to that kind of music. Okay, I'm probably going to start another heated argument over who can say what but I find it rather humorous that a group of B&S fans whose musical tastes are probably mellow in comparison to the hard rock and even sometimes death metal sounds that Bungle fans relish in, can be pretty harsh to each other at times. Sorry for the probable stereotyping and generalizing I just spewed out, and the uncontrollable references to a band some of you don't know of. I'm gonna shut the hell up, I've become that girl that says something random yet insulting, and she's always a new one too. I'm spent. cfarber ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GBCH at xxx.uk Fri Nov 19 19:47:41 1999 From: GBCH at xxx.uk (Chris_t_opher) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 19:47:41 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I never seem to get injured, despite seeing all of my friends always breaking bones..... Message-ID: <004501bf32c8$b9b5a340$943c883e@gsh> .....well......its true! Anyone else get the feeling that theyre always really really lucky when it comes to getting injured? My shortest mail yet.... that triumphant loser over there said: >As to me being a new guy, yes i am. So the operation was a complete success then? Glad to hear from you again so soon, Gladys :o) Chris_t_opher Ps. Did anyone else find it funny when Zoe C typed this: >"THEY ARE NOT GOTH!TAKE THAT BACK YOU LITTLE @*#!@#*!".( And it came up with mail to:@*#!@#*!".( Thought not! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Tigerxdare at xxx.com Fri Nov 19 20:48:41 1999 From: Tigerxdare at xxx.com (Tigerxdare at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:48:41 EST Subject: Sinister: ma vie en rose Message-ID: <0.f3009653.256711a9@aol.com> hello everyone, ahh what a busy few days it has been. ive been utterly consumed with school work. college is not all it is cracked up to be. i went to pick out my classes for next semester and i had my little heart positively set on taking french, i have this strong desire to learn it and become fluent in it, but my advisor told me not to take it as it is useless, and it will never help me. well what if i want to travel to france i said. he told me to be realistic and that i should learn spanish instead. well then i said i dont want to learn spanish ive no interest at all in it, and i never want to visit anyplace like mexico or spain or anything because i hate hot weather, and i just plain am not interested it. he then gave me a dirty look. so it seems that i am the practical one and he was just mad because i am RIGHT! I think i should have at least one class that i like. but no such luck. well i was sad so i rented ma vie en rose(my life in pink) about a little boy who wants to be a little girl. that movie is really good, and the little boy in it is cute as a button... today in my english class we got assigned a new paper to write. normally i dread it because she makes us write about such shite, but today was a different story. our topic she gave is to pick either a tv show or a band and and through that band or show analyze a contemporary issue. well of course the first thing that popped into my mind was belle and sebastian! the example she gave us was how nirvana symbolized the alternative music culture. so i guess i write about how belle and sebastian can symbolize indie culture? but then i started to think how exactly would i describe indie culture and is it possible to do so? and also to try to describe it to someone who has not the slightest clue what indie or belle and sebastian is. this is making it difficult so if any of you have any advice or suggestions for me please mail me. finally any philly area kids who are attending sorted- lets have a meet up. it will be tons of fun. and it is tommrow night. alright i must go lauren +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NALeigh82 at xxx.com Fri Nov 19 20:51:39 1999 From: NALeigh82 at xxx.com (NALeigh82 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:51:39 EST Subject: Sinister: Be my A-Z Message-ID: <0.bd101c23.2567125b@aol.com> This is my first message. I'll take influence from b&s and begin in understated fashion. I'll mesmorise you later, but someone might have to lend me a trumpet. I went to London on a school trip on Wednesday and Thursday, I visited Covent Garden with my only willing friend to find the Poetry Cafe. But we never found it, I know someone can help me to, I didn't ask anyone at the time because everyone I saw looked far to purposeful and I thought they might punch me, or introduce me to some rather unsavoury words. Save me Nick +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i_love_moon at xxx.com Sat Nov 20 00:56:44 1999 From: i_love_moon at xxx.com (Johan Nilsson) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 01:56:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: re: stuart plays on her solo albums References: <19991119135130.13878.rocketmail@web1703.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <19991120004326.54275.qmail@hotmail.com> > Stuart plays on her solo albums and is obviously very > supportive of Bel and her music... my first theory was this. stuart lee is quite a control freak (???) and when isobel started contributing to belle and sebastian he felt awkward and thought "hmmm do we hafta do this?" obviously little isobel wants and he doesn't want to break her heart so he goes "hey you know what? these songs are so good you should make entire solo album... let me phone up them kids at jeepster and they will probably put them out". now he had gotten rid of isobel's song contribution for belle and sebastian and he was happy. happy enough to help her out. but this theory doesn't hold because of the live tracks "family tree" and "landslide"... blah! maybe it is just me but i wish stuart lee would be that control freak... johan boring and pretentious since 1979 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sat Nov 20 16:07:03 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 08:07:03 PST Subject: Sinister: phat Message-ID: <19991120160703.9442.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello list, MMmmm mmm mmm feisty feisty list today? But it's all good... ian wrote: >i don't think that people dream of the band members >individually (just talking from personal experience here, >so no offence anyone), but BELLE AND SEBASTIAN as a whole, >as if the group were themselves one person. Ahh.See,now when I dream of Belle & Sebastian it is of individual members.But I am a weirdo..but that's ok. FunkySeb wrote: >CHRIS GEDDES JACKET!!!!!!! > >This is, lest we forget, the jacket that reminded Seymour Stein of = >Johnny Marr, the jacket that stole the show when it appeared on that >BBC >Documentary, a piece of history, steeped in the juices of Chris! And all >for the bargainiferous price of =A318.60! Presumably, the = >Bellesters need all the cash they can get, what with recording their 24 >disc epic Xtra Long Player, so they're flogging stuff to pay for = >more studio time. I'll keep an eye out for the others' contributions, and >keep you informed. I would *SO* raid those B&S boys wardrobes! Even though I am a girl,I love the look of boy-thing clothing.It has that whole oversized 'my boyfriend lent me HIS sweater!' appeal.Plus it has that lovely boy smell...all hugo boss and after-shave lotion.FunkySeb,when Stuart David's nightshirts go on sale,you must inform me.(Now here's some stimulating questions.What do the members of B&S sleep in? I bet Struan sleeps in the buff because he's an artsy fella.) I mean,if Stuart wants to raid MY closet,he can at any given moment.Although,I do think it would be more suitable to Chris Geddes tastes.For example,my friends mother gave me a pair of retro from the 70's tight(TIGHT!) red(bright RED!) velvet pants with mega flare.Chris...they're yours...you could wear them so well. Starry wrote: Apart from Stuart David who >honks of rancid piss and I fully intend to throw rotten tomatoes at him the >next time I see him. Now THIS is simply unacceptable.Why you be dissing my main man?It's time to lay the smackdown.Bring it ON Starry! Stuart David emits a pleasant fragrance that sings from the heavens and makes the angels dance.I must comment on this idea of meeting members of the band in real life and not insulting them.Ok even if one TRIED one couldn't lay it on the Stuarts. Struan emits wobbly-red lasar-wave sex vibes.One would be all like 'Alright,its on bitch,' and Struan's eyes would glow red,smoke would come from his nostrils and he would raise his hand and use his said sexual prowess and that would be THAT...you would be trying to swing a fist and your legs would just buckle underneath you and you'd fall over...only having enough strength to hoarsely whisper 'O! Please be kind!' and minx-like Struan,with hands on hips would be standing there laughing. Yay for manly hunks of burning love! best wishes, genevieve p.s.. I voted for Gregory's Girl on that bbc thing.And I've never even seen it.I also voted for the Never Ending Story.This is bit from the site: ' Gregory's Girl' was one of only a handful of movies to have successfully transferred to celluloid the contents of a pubescent schoolboy's head, gently probing all those worrying questions so peculiar to that time of life, like "what on earth are girls all about", "how on earth do I get one?" and "why do they speak that strange language that I don't understand". ' This made me giggle.Ah yes...that strange language that they speak. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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From: "Jennifer Phillips-Bacher" Subject: Sinister: A Revolution in Decorating! Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:47:28 CST Size: 5735 URL: From paul__22 at xxx.com Sat Nov 20 17:38:10 1999 From: paul__22 at xxx.com (paul cains) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 09:38:10 PST Subject: Sinister: The tube times Message-ID: <19991120173811.40703.qmail@hotmail.com> ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paul__22 at xxx.com Sat Nov 20 17:40:21 1999 From: paul__22 at xxx.com (paul cains) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 09:40:21 PST Subject: Sinister: The tube times Message-ID: <19991120174022.17088.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi everyone, does anyone know the time B and S are on "the tube" tonight please ? Ta, Paul. XX ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From RPushong at xxx.com Sat Nov 20 17:41:55 1999 From: RPushong at xxx.com (RPushong at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 12:41:55 EST Subject: Sinister: if i only had a heart...* Message-ID: <0.b9d7d962.25683763@aol.com> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i love belle and sebastian ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ laugh i almost cried ..." whats the deal about felt " ...has the world gone mad! ... i have a confession ...sometimes i go hours even days without listening to b&s ... its true ...you won't go mad you know ...( they've come to take me away ha ha ) but it makes it even sweeter when you go back to them...as i always inevitably do... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i like drum'n'bass ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ so what ...in my opinion " super sharp shooter " by the ganja kru ...is genius you can keep your coffee table goldie & roni size ...pah! ...i'm more interested in third eye foundation...& wagon christ ...and acceleredeck ...not to mention adf ... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i like loud guitars ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ spacemen 3..., loop , my bloody valentine , god machine , terminal cheesecake , godflesh, ice, i could go on and on ...i love feedback and distortion ...these days its bowery electric ..mogwai...immense & sigur ros that do it for me. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ loud guitars and breakbeats ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ bowery electric's vertigo ep ...the most ferocious d'n'b remix of " without stopping " from witchman ...awesome... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ felt ~~~~~~~~~~~~ whats the deal with felt ...imagine if b&s released 10 albums and 11 singles in 10 years & they were all totally brilliant ...& they stayed very small and remained one of those well kept secrets ...thats the deal with felt ...live they were brilliant ..lawrence was a perfectionist who surrounded himself with outstanding musicians ...felt are a very big deal ...make the effort check them out ...when people say to me that the smiths were the best band of the 80's ...and as much as i like the smiths i have to disagree ...it was always felt...the smiths had it easy compared to felt...some people only recognised the genius of lawrence and felt when they were gone...& what makes me the big expert you ask ...well i was there! ...i'm quite old you know... i was thirty this year! i was 14 when i saw the smiths and 15 when i saw felt + felt have some of the greatest song titles of all time...fact... ~~~~~~ twee ~~~~~~ cardigans ...,nhs glasses , courdroy trousers ...i think not... some of us sinister souls look like hardened criminals ...( trainers and hooded tops ) there is a rumour that a certain list member has mafia connections ...so you'd better watch out ...one false move and there'll be a sheeps head next to you when you wake up ...twee thats just a deception ...this list isn't called sinister for nothing. ~~~~~~ isobel ~~~~~~ oh sweet mother of all that is good and pure ...i will not hear a bad word said about bel...and the gentle waves are worth checking out...personally i love the headscarfs... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ b&s related dreams ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ god i envy you lot ...the only dream/nightmare i have is being chased by some sort of unseen monster...it is very blair witch ...i envy all these elaborate dreams everyone seems to have ...i could make one up ...& then try and make myself dream it ...it would feature the cast from wizard of oz ...i would be the tin-man* ..., isobel would be dorothy ...stuart m can be the scarecrow ...stuart david can be the cowardly lion ...and toto well thats easy put a skateboard underneath him and he would be" a dog on wheels " as for the flying monkey well that would be clint boon ...and not forgetting the wizard himself well that would be pete waterman ...because although its a well kept secret he writes all the songs you know...as for the wicked witch of the east hmm thats a toughie ...i think that scary looking singer from placebo fits the bill nicely. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ mellow ...schmellow! ...i think not... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ christina wrote: >" if a group of b&s fans whose musical tastes are probably mellow in comparison to >the hard rock and even death metal sounds that bungle fans relish in " bungle's in a band! what became of george and zippy ...( sorry non uk listee's bungle was a huge bear from childrens tv show rainbow )...oh i'm forgetting george now plays keyboards for suede. christina my dear this is by far the most musically diverse & knowledgeable list i have ever come across ...b&s just happens to be our common thread ...don't believe me... just ask a question no matter how obscure...someone will know. well kids its been fun ...i'm off to test my dream theory ...wish me luck...love and affection to you all. richard.p x sorry about the length of this post ...i think i've had a sugar rush ...i've been eating frosties straight out of the box ...and do you know what...they're grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat!! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:38:43 EST Size: 4343 URL: From dee at xxx.ie Fri Nov 19 18:48:29 1999 From: dee at xxx.ie (Denise Power) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 18:48:29 +0000 (GMT) Subject: DELIVERY FAILURE: Router: Unable to open mailbox file SEAL-EDT-NH00/SESTO/EDT/ERICSSON mail.box: Unable to find path to server Message-ID: Your message Subject: Sinister: how belle and sebastian sponspored a minor love affair. was not delivered to: ETLRDHY at notes.ericsson.se because: Router: Unable to open mailbox file SEAL-EDT-NH00/SESTO/EDT/ERICSSON mail.box: Unable to find path to server -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Denise Power Subject: Sinister: how belle and sebastian sponspored a minor love affair. Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 18:48:29 +0000 (GMT) Size: 7014 URL: From elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk Sat Nov 20 11:49:05 1999 From: elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk (Elizabeth Daplyn) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 12:49:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Is it wicked to rip the piss? Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From jasonandreas at xxx.net Sat Nov 20 19:36:25 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 19:36:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Merry meadows and pipers blaring Message-ID: <003101bf338e$893cd0a0$2cd2b0c2@default> Hi kids :) BAND MEMBERS I like Isobel, myself, and I bumped into her cute self once, sans scarf, although she was wearing a bobble hat. I said 'Ghieu....' and she smiled apologetically and moved swiftly off. Now, she's the first famous person I've had trouble talking to. I was with Heather one time and singing TIJAMRS when Stuart Murdoch almost knocked me over, just outside Pizza Hut. Oddness, eh? DREAMS I'm getting scared now, because Owen has now appeared in another dream recently, this time, Lauren (Tigerxdare) was in Glasgow when Central Station exploded and people kept commenting on how much they admired his Scottish accent while I tried to explain that it wasn't. I need help. Lauren was cute though :) LIST CRUSH I now, for some odd reason, have four votes. One has been accounted for, who were the other three? Please, I have to know!!!!!! FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAILED ME ABOUT MY ABSCENCE I haven't posted so much out of respect for the grand work that listmummy does and the pressures he is under to maintain our little grotto of peace. I do wish I had more relevent stuff to say. Stay Sinister :) --Jason "May all your dreams but one come true." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:41:21 PST Size: 5005 URL: From GBCH at xxx.uk Fri Nov 19 19:47:41 1999 From: GBCH at xxx.uk (Chris_t_opher) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 19:47:41 +0000 Subject: DELIVERY FAILURE: Router: Unable to open mailbox file SEAL-EDT-NH00/SESTO/EDT/ERICSSON mail.box: Unable to find path to server Message-ID: <004501bf32c8$b9b5a340$943c883e@gsh> Your message Subject: Sinister: I never seem to get injured, despite seeing all of my friends always breaking bones..... was not delivered to: ETLRDHY at notes.ericsson.se because: Router: Unable to open mailbox file SEAL-EDT-NH00/SESTO/EDT/ERICSSON mail.box: Unable to find path to server -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Chris_t_opher" Subject: Sinister: I never seem to get injured, despite seeing all of my friends always breaking bones..... Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 19:47:41 -0000 Size: 3812 URL: From GBCH at xxx.uk Fri Nov 19 19:47:41 1999 From: GBCH at xxx.uk (Chris_t_opher) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 19:47:41 +0000 Subject: DELIVERY FAILURE: Router: Unable to open mailbox file SEAL-EDT-NH00/SESTO/EDT/ERICSSON mail.box: Unable to find path to server Message-ID: <004501bf32c8$b9b5a340$943c883e@gsh> Your message Subject: Sinister: I never seem to get injured, despite seeing all of my friends always breaking bones..... was not delivered to: ETLRDHY at notes.ericsson.se because: Router: Unable to open mailbox file SEAL-EDT-NH00/SESTO/EDT/ERICSSON mail.box: Unable to find path to server -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Chris_t_opher" Subject: Sinister: I never seem to get injured, despite seeing all of my friends always breaking bones..... Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 19:47:41 -0000 Size: 3812 URL: From Tigerxdare at xxx.com Fri Nov 19 20:48:41 1999 From: Tigerxdare at xxx.com (Tigerxdare at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:48:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: DELIVERY FAILURE: Router: Unable to open mailbox file SEAL-EDT-NH00/SESTO/EDT/ERICSSON mail.box: Unable to find path to server Message-ID: <0.f3009653.256711a9@aol.com> Your message Subject: Sinister: ma vie en rose was not delivered to: ETLRDHY at notes.ericsson.se because: Router: Unable to open mailbox file SEAL-EDT-NH00/SESTO/EDT/ERICSSON mail.box: Unable to find path to server -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Tigerxdare at xxx.com Subject: Sinister: ma vie en rose Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:48:41 EST Size: 5150 URL: From NALeigh82 at xxx.com Fri Nov 19 20:51:39 1999 From: NALeigh82 at xxx.com (NALeigh82 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:51:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: DELIVERY FAILURE: Router: Unable to open mailbox file SEAL-EDT-NH00/SESTO/EDT/ERICSSON mail.box: Unable to find path to server Message-ID: <0.bd101c23.2567125b@aol.com> Your message Subject: Sinister: Be my A-Z was not delivered to: ETLRDHY at notes.ericsson.se because: Router: Unable to open mailbox file SEAL-EDT-NH00/SESTO/EDT/ERICSSON mail.box: Unable to find path to server -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: NALeigh82 at xxx.com Subject: Sinister: Be my A-Z Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:51:39 EST Size: 3656 URL: From jasonandreas at xxx.net Sat Nov 20 17:18:55 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 17:18:55 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Merry meadows and pipers blaring Message-ID: <001b01bf337b$542a1020$47d3b0c2@default> Hi kids :) BAND MEMBERS I like Isobel, myself, and I bumped into her cute self once, sans scarf, although she was wearing a bobble hat. I said 'Ghieu....' and she smiled apologetically and moved swiftly off. Now, she's the first famous person I've had trouble talking to. I was with Heather one time and singing TIJAMRS when Stuart Murdoch almost knocked me over, just outside Pizza Hut. Oddness, eh? DREAMS I'm getting scared now, because Owen has now appeared in another dream recently, this time, Lauren (Tigerxdare) was in Glasgow when Central Station exploded and people kept commenting on how much they admired his Scottish accent while I tried to explain that it wasn't. I need help. Lauren was cute though :) LIST CRUSH I now, for some odd reason, have four votes. One has been accounted for, who were the other three? Please, I have to know!!!!!! FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAILED ME ABOUT MY ABSCENCE I haven't posted so much out of respect for the grand work that listmummy does and the pressures he is under to maintain our little grotto of peace. I do wish I had more relevent stuff to say. Stay Sinister :) --Jason "May all your dreams but one come true." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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From: "Johan Nilsson" Subject: Sinister: re: stuart plays on her solo albums Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 01:56:44 +0100 Size: 4215 URL: From Norouzy at xxx.au Sun Nov 21 04:34:34 1999 From: Norouzy at xxx.au (Sarvenaz Norouzy) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 12:34:34 +0800 Subject: Sinister: On the joys of record shopping, in London and Dublin Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19991121123434.0080ad80@tartarus.uwa.edu.au> Dear all, I am soon to travel a good distance from the safety network of my favourite record stores, and need advice on where to look for all things musically good in London and Dublin. Are there any wonderful little treasure troves that you know of and would be wonderfully kind enough to share with a traveller deprived of her vinyl fix? I'm afraid I'll be signing off the list soon because my mail box is to travel with me and i really must cut down on my mail gluttony. Any advice you can e-mail me privately will be much appreciated and printed out in gold letter to be placed in a shrine bedecked with morrissey posters. With thanks, Sarvenaz Norouzy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From unloveable_ at xxx.com Sun Nov 21 08:01:02 1999 From: unloveable_ at xxx.com (angela i hate my last name) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 02:01:02 CST Subject: Sinister: godiva chocolate rasbery truffle ice cream Message-ID: <19991121080103.45864.qmail@hotmail.com> i think i have certinly over dosed myself on this stuff.....as i do with everything i love....b&S inculded....wich brings me to this, i am highly pissed that i can not see the thing on "the tube"...{is that what its called?} well whatever it is i was wondering if some one happend to record any of it? if so i would be ever so greatfull if any of you would be willing to make a copy and send it to me...or at least tell me an adress i can get them to sell me a copy....you could call it my early birthday present! ok this is gonna sound cheezie but "hey baby whats your sign?" i think we should all post our sign, birthday, our favorite color & the next question can be if you could go any where on earth and with any person (living or dead),where & who with? .*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*. my goodness i just saw how typicaly girly all that i just wrote came out sounding...please dont kill me with my scrunchy...i dont wanna die yet i'm to young! actually no i will be 23 dec 7th this year....thats a perfectly good age to go....yeah baby i am a sagitarius, my favorite color is periwinkle, & i would go with jack kerouac to south india & smoke hash & introduce him to b&s....and he'd make me listen to charlie parker and it would be true bliss...ahhhh being a copycat since 1976 angela, from the mecca of elvis fans I.C.Q.#47995388 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cfarber at xxx.com Sun Nov 21 08:54:14 1999 From: cfarber at xxx.com (Christina Farber) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 00:54:14 PST Subject: Sinister: subject Message-ID: <19991121085414.41507.qmail@hotmail.com> what is the meaning of life? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jthorniley at xxx.net Sun Nov 21 10:02:14 1999 From: jthorniley at xxx.net (James Thorniley) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 10:02:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Shiny happy people holding hands (& Tube videos) Message-ID: <3837C326.214A2474@hedgehog.freehosting.net> (STUFF ABOUT TUBE VIDEOS AT THE BOTTOM) Hello sinstiers, I haven't posted for a while (i'm suddenly all nervous, please be gentle) but here goes. Well, on reading through last weeks post I couldn't help but feel a little admiration for our dear Elle, I just though how nice to defend a friend like that, especially when your risking the odd insult on yourself. I feel a bit guilty for not doing that enough for my friends (and a bit sad that I can't imagine anyone doing it for me, sob sob). But since this is fast turning into a depressing rant of mine, and I'm probably making dear Elle blush, I will hastily change the subject briefly. HAIRDRESSERS Do you ever get the feeling that when the hairdresser looks in the mirror, they're actually checking on their own hair rather than looking at you? I just noticed this the other day when I got my hair cut - it's all short and cold, it gave me a headache. B&S DREAMS Funnily enough, I managed to have a sort of B&S related dream without the involvement of any of the band members. I was in this weird African country (the exact purpose of me being there is unclear, I was out saving the world in some way or another), when this bloke in the street asks me if I want to buy any B&S cd's. I politely declined on the basis that I already had a complete collection, I blushed a bit when I realised I had admitted to being one of those obsessive fans ;) So anyway, this guy tells me in a bizarre cockney accent that I didn't have everything, and he shows me his collection. I picked up on of the CDs and sure enough I've never seen it before. So I bought that. Then came the weird bit; I dreamt I had woken up (you know, where you dream you're back in your bedroom), and that I still had the cd. I put it on and I actually thought it was quite good. Of course, it probably wasn't, but I can't remember it now. AND FINALLY >even people who like Belle and sebastan can be cruel and >heartless individuals Gosh, I hope that doesn't get quoted in Select. Anyhow, must be off Bye everybody p.s. As far as the tube thing is concerned, I only saw them play The Loneliness of a Long Distance runner, or middle distance runner or whatever it is. Anyway, they might have played something later on in the show, I will check my video today. I will see if I can set up some video chains maybe if there is any interest in that sort of thing. If you have a video can you please email me with "bs-vid-available" in the subject line and if you're still interested in just hearing this one song could you please email me with "bs-vid-request" in the subject line. I don't need any other information apart from your email address for now. If you can tell me if there was any more B&S stuff later on in the show maybe you could tell me about it. I will get in touch with the people who are interested towards the end of next week. Oh, if you are outside the UK could you please state it. Email jthorniley at hedgehog.freehosting.net -- James Thorniley +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From macarthur at xxx.com Sun Nov 21 13:26:29 1999 From: macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 13:26:29 -0000 Subject: Sinister: You won't believe in my new belle, she flits and weaves a curious spell Message-ID: <005b01bf3424$099219a0$273fac3e@default> Dearest lovely-things, Belle looked gorgeous on The Tube last night. I have no qualms in saying I want to *be* Isobel Campbell. I have to say I was a little distracted by Struans Arms Of Sex - and dissapointed at very few Gratiuitous Cooke shots (I'm beginning to think he's more of a beautiful boy than ol' mad dog murdouch himself). There is a part near the beginning, when he nearly cracks up laughing singing "ri-de in the field, ri-de-(hehe) in the field" which is fantastic. It's dissapointing that they only played one song, but I'm glad it was 'lonliness of a middel distance runner'. A lady formally of this parish send me a tape of it earlier this year, saying "after you hear it you won't know how you lived without it". How right she was. I'm afraid I don't have the means to make video copies, but I could make good quality tape copies of the one track, should anyone not have it/desire it - because honestly, it's a really, really good song, and if anyone else could feel like I did when I heard it, well - it can only be a Good Thing. Mail me privvy, like. You can't trust video players to function while you are sleeping. The belles safely recorded and doubled checked, I set the video to record 'Zero De Conduite' (the film upon 'If.....' was based) and tucked myself into bed. It didn't work. Our central heating is broken at the moment too, so I am sitting here with an electric heater stuffed up my vest. Legwarmers are suddenely a very attractive fashion statement. Last night reminded me of something my brother said after spending his first week in halls of residence - "I was wearing ALL of my clothes, and I was still cold". I think he stole that one off Ben Elton. Students eh? >I DO NOT (ooh, I almost went a bit DICKIE there), however, wear any >semblance of a headscarf ooh, I do sometimes. Though not in the 'pirate' style, like the girl from S Club 7. I always want to say "ooh ar!" when discussing pirates, but always end up sounding like a country bumpkin instead. No fair, I say, and there's nothing wrong with looking like a granny. I stole lots of my grandma's clothes when I last went up to Yorkshire - twinsets with pearl buttons! knee length tweed skirts! wonders! It's so hard to find nice *new* clothes if you don't like looking like a chocolate-box army commandor. Pastel utility chic? has the world gone mad? naturally. Erica x Oh dad, she's driving me mad. http://www.chickpages.com/rants/golighty/index.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starpiekat at xxx.uk Sun Nov 21 13:47:41 1999 From: starpiekat at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Clarke?=) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 13:47:41 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Its only Rock'n'Roll, but I like it? Message-ID: <19991121134741.9211.rocketmail@web1701.mail.yahoo.com> BELLEND SEBASTIAN IN "MAD LINT" SHOCKER! Starring: all of the band, some DRUGS, and some smells. One day Richard Colburn, the shopping trolley king of Safeways has a mad idea. "What if!", he thought, "Instead of just sitting in our bedrooms this Friday night watching taped episodes of Scrapheap Challenge, we decided to GO OUT AND TAKE SHIT LOADS OF DRUGS?". He thought this was a masterpiece of intellectual thought, and picked up the telephone and dialed the hotline to his only friends, members of "Bellend Sebastian". Somewhere sat in front of an organ, wearing a cape made by Geoff Capes, was Chrish Geddesh. Unknown to naive Richard, Chrish had been a fan of the old Wacky Backy for a long time. So when Richard called, Chrish was far too stoned to hear the phone ring. And thus he just continued sitting in his chair. Half an hour later, he fell off it, and giggled. Lucky for Richard then, that all the other Belles were in. "Hey Gang!", Richard exclaimed, "lets go out and do shitloads of drugs and get langered!". The band looked at each other in shock. Then they looked at Chris lying on the floor giggling and decided in unison, "YEAH! DRUGS ARE COOL!", and rushed out of the house immediately. At this point I should let you know that Stevie Jackon was wearing a monkey suit. I don't know why. But I like the image. After listening to the Magnetic Fields album "Holiday", because its BLUDDY GRATE, the Belles rush out to Hip and Happening Embra Nitespot, "B-Movie Themes, Spun By WHO! else but SuperStar DJ Keef Watson" and all look at each other. "NO!", burts out cracking top lass Sarah, "we do this every night, just stare at each other in some kind of wierd lustfilled but nothing ever happens scenario, aren't we supposed to like um..."..Sarah stopped, her voice trailing off as she caught the eye of Stuart Murdoch. "Bloody hell", thought Isobel Campbell, "aren't we supposed to be taking DRUGS?". Mick Cookeface, who unknown to Isobel was in fact one of those psychic mind-reading tarot card believing freaks, nodded and strode off purposefully towards the nearest person who looked like they could be a drug dealer. "Excuse me sir", Mick stuttered feebly, "This is the first time I've ever left the cosy and comforting thatched cottage in which I live, and I want to get shitloads of drugs for me and my pop pals to take. Can you help me?". The Evil Drug Dealer Who Is WICKED and BAD grinned evily. "Of course my young delicious eligible bachelor, helping people is my role in life. What drugs exactly would you be after?". Mick just gazed at him blankly. "Just, drug drugs, really. You mean there are different sorts?". The Evil Drug Dealer giggled his little arse off and ran away. "This should be funny", he thought to himself. Mick, who was still reading his mind at the time was perplexed. Why on earth would us taking drugs be funny? I'll tell you why, says the drug dealer. This is the easiest deal I've ever made. Apart from a few of the band who I know regulary like to "toke it", the others are completely useless bimbling imbeciles who, hey, I'm quite fond of anyway. "Aahahaha, hahahahaha,. hahahhaa" he giggled, as he emptied the clus vacumm cleaner bags full of the most potent drug ever.....LINT. The band were getting bored. "Ah, I've had enough of this", said monkey suit clad Stevie Jackson. "I'm going for some beer", and strode off to the bar. Two seconds later, a grinning Mick returned. "Hey dudes!", he said (having unwittingly turned into a bleached blond californian tosswit), "look! I bought some drugs! The dealer said they should be 'funny', so they must be ace!". "Hooray", said the band in moderate excitement. And as one, they all headed off to the toilets together.....together...together.... (that was where the voice was supposed to echo and we have a little fade out thing). Cut to next morning, a cinema verité interview with a toilet attendant. TA: "So they all walked into the toilet cubicle, luckily its a bit like the tardis once you get in, a Scottish thing I reckon, and I heard all these funny sniffing sounds. So I assumed they all had colds. I was just about to get them some tissues to wipe their snotty noses with, when I heard giggles. Oh no, more bluddy druggies I thought. Not that they looked the type. Then I heard this wild tormented cry of "Argh! Eek! My head is exploding and my nose tickles!". Then I heard another cry from the frail voiced one with a triangular-ish face going "Argh! Eek! I shoved it up my arse!", followed by quite disgusting farty noises. Then this guy in a monkey suit strode in, going "so wheres the drugs hep cats?". He made a strangled noise upon reaching the cubicle, and then beat a hasty retreat. Then I decided I would have a look. And lying on the floor were lots of dead people. Covered in a mixture of lint, and space dust. One was Scotlands 48th most eligible bachelor according to Daily Mail readers, and the others looked like Students who needed some food inside them. Its still beyond me how they managed to OD on lint. Stupid." Moral of the story....um...I dunno, I'm bored now. I'm off to do some gardening in a middle class suburb now, probably involving a disgusting mosaic by some middle aged retired woman who thinks she's "arty". Vile. Charlie Dimmock. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Sun Nov 21 14:07:56 1999 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:07:56 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: you made me forget my dreams Message-ID: well hello there it's me again someone suggested we play 'spot the funkyseb' when watching tv. good idea but im afraid ive made the game harder cos now i might be on tv insulting a bad musical that i was at the premier of and as everyone knows i look just like the funky one (well actually im less ginger and have shorter hair but im told we do look alike). happy seb spoting folks bel scares me, i saw her once and she was just stood at the side of the dance floor and she looked all quiet and rather self contained and so i couldnt go up and talk to her, i quite like her singing though. it seems i have now appeared in 2 of jasons dreams...hes now met me in his dreams more often than he has in real life. do you think i ought to be worried? i hope i wasnt wearing a pointy hat in this one. im sure hes subconciously jealous of my accent that would make sense of the last dream im sure. i was dissapointed to hear that B&S (wow i actually used capital letters in the post) only played one song on the tube, i still cant wait untill its shown on pauper telly though (i cant afford radar tv) ill tape it and watch it again and again. wont be the same without jules holland saying fuck though. finally id just like to report that yesterday my life turned into a comedy sketch. there i was climbing out of a girls bedroom window as her flatmates had just come back and we werent supposed to be in bed together and what happens...i get a really bad cramp in my leg while sitting on a window sill, while trying to be quiet and while the girl is nearly pissing herself with laughter at me. just thought id leave you with that image. play nicely now owen With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Sun Nov 21 16:37:37 1999 From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 08:37:37 PST Subject: Sinister: Nick Cave in Warwick Uni Message-ID: <19991121163738.56896.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello, my friends! I'm in Warwick but I still can't get away from yous all! Tonight Nick Cave is playing live and a group of friends has gathered from all over UK to see King Ink. I was wandering if any fellow listees are going to attend this concert 'cause if this is the case I'd love to meet some of you.Please do tell until around 7pm.I'll be wearing my B&S badge. Oh!And if someone recorded the Tube show would it be easy to make a copy for me?PLEASE! Until next time,take care Zoe P.S.Today I discovered how beutiful is to listen to Tigermilk while travelling on the train."We Rule The School" filling my head and the beautiful countryside filling my eyes.Pure magic! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aic99 at xxx.edu Sun Nov 21 16:41:06 1999 From: aic99 at xxx.edu (AIC 99) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:41:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: subject In-Reply-To: <19991121085414.41507.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: to be honest i don't know. :) but i'm sure that there's something out there. :) peace and roses Andreea On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, Christina Farber wrote: > what is the meaning of life? > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From untitled at xxx.com Sun Nov 21 16:47:10 1999 From: untitled at xxx.com (Robert Foster) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:47:10 -0500 Subject: Sinister: The tube times Message-ID: <199911211147_MC2-8DFD-875E@compuserve.com> Paul Cains wrote: << does anyone know the time B and S are on "the tube" tonight please ? >> Well, here is the contents of a link I sent a few days ago, I don't think anybody used it though: This is from the NME: << BELLE & SEBASTIAN will unveil two new songs on The Apocalypse Tube on Sky One on November 20 at 9pm repeated on Channel 4 on January 1 just after midnight. In his diary column for student newspaper The Glasgow University Guardian, Stuart Murdoch suggested that they'd do a medley: "I'll start with 'Thank You For The Music' (he wrote), then... 'The Day We Went to Bangor'..." >> http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/19991115165518.html Hope this is useful, Rob +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Sun Nov 21 17:01:10 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 17:01:10 -0000 Subject: Sinister: subject References: <19991121085414.41507.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <003501bf3442$03c08de0$37153c3e@default> To live. To love. To die. --Jason "May all your dreams but one come true." ----- Original Message ----- From: Christina Farber To: Sent: 21 November 1999 08:54 Subject: Sinister: subject > what is the meaning of life? > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sun Nov 21 18:55:36 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 13:55:36 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Apocalypse Tube Message-ID: <199911211355_MC2-8DFC-F86D@compuserve.com> Hi All, I'm a digestive & the Latest page necessarily lags a bit now, so apologies if this has already been posted. Just watched last nights prog (thanks to kind neighbour Alan), & our heroes perform one number (The Loneliness Of A Middle Distance Runner) about an hour & 2 minutes into the show. IMHO the rest of it was pants so I would just skip straight there if I were you. Mick plays acoustic guitar, Stevie Rrrocks out on lead, StuD sits cross-legged playing cool bass in a Nike ski hat, Richard & Wee Chris don't get too much exposure, Sarah fiddles, Isobel wears a red leather coat, & whistles. Struan sports one of his tight, white T-shirts & a big electric guitar. Looks younger than ever (that portrait in the attic must be really gruesome by now) but a bit tired - sleepless night before? nerves? (he fluffs his lines & pops the impish grin out early in the performance). To be honest none of them look like they were enjoying themsleves: it must be a pretty nerve-wracking experience after all. Nevertheless brilliant to see them on (nearly) national TV, rubbing shoulders with musical greats like er, Paul McCartney and um, other people. And now its time to take liberties as usual :) If any of you out there are musicians son James asks you to please mail him at moore.james at talk21.com so his fanzine The Last Resort can send you a questionnaire. PS: Sally just read this & although the spirit of Sir Cliff won't let me repeat all her comments she wanted me to add that Stuart M was more smiley than I made him out to be. I guess that they would have been more relaxed after a couple more numbers. So can we have a hour-long special, please? Bye, The Son Of a Preacher Man Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From BrnToEnd at xxx.com Sun Nov 21 19:00:35 1999 From: BrnToEnd at xxx.com (BrnToEnd at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:00:35 EST Subject: Sinister: Just like heaven(Movie mania) Message-ID: <0.6ad6e624.25699b53@aol.com> Hello sinners, Well, last night I went to see Boys Dont Cry which I recommend to all of you its such a great film and it made me cry at the end so I guess... Boys do cry...atleast whimps like me. The film really shined light on the subject for me. so far My top 5 films of the year are 1.Eyes wide shut(I know im the only one who thought it was great I CANT SEE WHY EVERYONE HATED! but thats another story that I could go on hours and hours about and kill a few people) 2.American Beauty 3.Bringing out the dead 4.Boys dont cry 5. Summer of Sam Well yeah what about Three Kings? hmmm I still dont know what to think of that one. I am a war political film freak and I loved how they showed the aftermath of the gulf war and the politics and the camera work was good but sometimes was overdone. I just didn't like the bad humor in the beginning I mean whats so funny about a cow being blown up and its guts flying everywhere? its such a werid film! Its like I loved it and hated it at the same time! ahhhhhh The insider was also another great flick too. Great acting. I have to says its been an interstening year for film and I like it. I just hope a "Titanic" doesn't come along and wreck it all because im really going to be excited about the oascars this year. oh well dont get too excited Damon Oh boy im starting to talk to myself in an e-mail I think its time for me to stop. anyways cheers to everyone and be sure to see some of the films I mentioned you won't be disappointed. -Damon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From redden at xxx.com Sun Nov 21 19:13:40 1999 From: redden at xxx.com (danielle redden) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:13:40 -0500 Subject: Sinister: good feeling won't you stay with me just a little longer Message-ID: birthday boys and birthday girls, my twin brother is sitting next to me. we have just finished comparing our bellies. mine is bigger. i win but he thinks i've lost we turn twenty-two next week me five minutes before him. he is the pretty one but i dont mind most of the time because he doesnt have a cat or an affinity for water and i can go much longer without showering and still look clean. and he thinks tikermilk is shite. shame shame i am in love with charlie dimmock. or is it sarah clarke. oh, am i being too forward? i woke up this morning naked wrapped up in a union jack. i am not shitting you! (ummm vodka....hiccup) the cat was perplexed, stretched out on the coffee table laughing at me. and i didnt dream of straun. or the kennedys. i dreamed i had 12 toes. as if my feet arent already big enough. my father says it is my fault my feet are so big because i was always into wearing comfy roomy boyish shoes instead and those pointed prostituing girlie shoes.. the kid in the bunny suit said: >Well, ducky, the thing you have to understand >is that we're all unsufferably >twee and must therefore have wussy dreams >about chasing Struan about a Gala >bingo hall with a large Saveloy. Madam. yeehaaa!!! oh wait was that just a joke? while trying to navigate my way through the ikea parking lot yesterday in my friend's ENORMOUS vehicle i had JAMRS playing and i was singing the stuart david part REALLY loud "RICHARD'S INTOOOO ROCK'N'ROLLLL...." with the windows down and i turned to my right to see this little boy, oh he musnt have been much older than a year and a half, and he was laughing all over the place at me slobbering and giggling. hhmmmmm and another falls falls falls in tweedom. go get 'em while they're young. love danielle Whaat!!! Have you tried The Doghouse??! Get your FREE WEB-BASED EMAIL account at: http://doghousemail.lycos.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Sun Nov 21 20:01:18 1999 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 15:01:18 EST Subject: Sinister: twee has the word "wee" in it. Message-ID: <0.14b588a8.2569a98e@aol.com> Hello all! Some one asked why he/she should buy Gentle Waves stuff. Here's a point. Because it's very good. A bit like belle and sebastian, only even more melancholy, and with Bel's voice. Still not as good as B&S but very worthwhile buying. While we're still on the subject of bel. All the B&S bashing makes me laugh, especially the squirrels thing. And it's only good fun, i think. (unless isobel really DID get kidknapped by squirrels in which case then oh no). If people get pissed off about it then I have no objection to that either, but it makes me laugh to read some of the stuff. Someone else mentioned Bunty. I like Bunty. It's still going, but I used to be better. The 4 Maries were my very favourite. I like reading old Bunty anuals best, though I'm getting the latest one for my christmas. Does anyone remember how you used to get free hair slides? They were blue. I liked Mandy and Judy too. Does this mail have B&S content? Hold on I'll check. Yup, it does. I'm still not finished my scarf yet. Boo hoo. Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david1822 at xxx.com Sun Nov 21 21:19:33 1999 From: david1822 at xxx.com (David Strange Strange) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 13:19:33 PST Subject: Sinister: Do You Remember The First Time? Message-ID: <943219173.5424.386@excite.com> Hello fellow sinisterettes, I hope you are all warm and well. This is my first ever post so sorry if I ramble on slightly , but I'm sure eveyones first ever mail wasn't much cop. I just thought I'd write to tell you all about the book we are reading in my English class in college The Great Gatsby it's fabulous and I love it. If you haven't read it why not, it's very underrated but most good things are right!. I love it soooo because of the brilliantly poetic descriptions Fitzgerald uses it's beautiful. The tube thing last night was certainly very strange B&S were brilliant of course but the comedians and Donna Air and all that dodgy dance music gave me a headache and I ended up going to bed at 11. It was a shame that no-one danced really though except me and the whole of the list I bet. Also can people post my privately about the whole Sinister Badge upside down thing please when did it start etc.? Right back to being a lurker and another cup of tea David XXXX ________________________________________________________________ Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From simongooch at xxx.uk Sun Nov 21 21:46:51 1999 From: simongooch at xxx.uk (Simon Gooch) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 21:46:51 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Expect to see Stuart D largin' it down at Heavenly Social within a week. Message-ID: <001401bf3469$f29191e0$466b883e@mqeywdzn> Hello fruity chums, That Tim Burgess off of The Charlatans has just been playing Looper's 'Impossible Things No.2' on the radio. Blimey. Apparently he's a big fan and even went so far as to nip out and buy them some batteries when Stuart's keyboard broke down at a gig in LA. What a nice young man. Oh, now he's playing The Wu-Tang Clan, bit of a contextual leap there then. But what does this all mean? Re-mixed by Pulp, played out by The Charlatans, sipping cocktails on a private beach in Mustique with Puff Daddy and Bobby Gillespie? Are Looper becoming the new Chemical Brothers? Answers to the usual address... Which ad is Funkyseb in? I've seen his tour de force as a vomiting crusty in The Bill and apparently he dances around like a crazed loon on drugs in a Moby (yes that's *MOBY!*) video but the ad has slipped me by. Perhaps some sort of Sebwatch needs to be set up to chart this talented young man's unstoppable rise to fame and glory. Voted for lots of Belle and Sebastian related things on the NME readers poll site thingy today. I felt a strange swell of pleasure typing 'Pontins holiday camp, Camber Sands near Rye' into the best venue category. How about all going to vote ? http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/19991117163652.html It would be a 'massive two fingers up to the music industry' *giggle* StayLuckyRory (unrepentant overuser of brackets and asterisks since 1977)xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Poppixxie at xxx.com Sun Nov 21 22:47:15 1999 From: Poppixxie at xxx.com (Poppixxie at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 17:47:15 EST Subject: Sinister: on the importance of being edward Message-ID: <0.ca2cc24f.2569d073@aol.com> good evening all..... i just woke up feom an extremly long nap. i don't think i would have woke at all if it wasn't for the telephone. no it didn't ring. just the fact the it was invented has been keeping me awake at nights. alright, any dream interpreters on the list because i have a question. i just dreamt that i was on an aeroplane that had just taken off and then a problem was identified. apparently we had to make an emerfency landing. i was very happy about this for some reason. i think i wanted the plane to crash. anyhow, so it's crashing through a field of purple grain and then it happens, we fly off the ground over a cliff and go divebombing into it. a deafing noise resounds and i realize that i do need to get out alive so i jump out the window. i seee the plane skid foreward to a far away point on farmgrounds. i walked over to the plane and met a farmer and it was my job to coax the other passengers off the plane. after this point it turned rather silly and a wedding of somesort was involved. what does this mean? anyhow, so i'm watching edward scissorhands right now. this is by far my favorite movie ever. it is so unbelievable and perfect. it gives me chills everytime. oh great another deadend comment. in another conversational leap, wait i can do this, something else that gives me chills is sarah music. does anybody in the new york area know a great place to get sarah. or perhaps where on the internet i could find it. love, shawneeeeeee +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dbgeraghty at xxx.uk Tue Nov 16 02:48:34 1999 From: dbgeraghty at xxx.uk (David Geraghty) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 02:48:34 -0000 Subject: Sinister: speeding motorcyle, won't you save me.... Message-ID: <001c01bf2fdd$15791d40$e829d4d4@dbgeraghty> i was having a discussion (or whatever it is called when you email someone all the time and they mail back...) with a member of this erstwhile good parish and we got talking about Mr Daniel Johnston, and how NO-ONE has ever seemed to have heard of him. But i'm sure, positive, heck, betting my earthly possessions on the fact that someone here has indeed heard the great man. Do not let me down. It was a shame to hear that that twee band we all seem to like could only muster one song between them for their first ever trip outside on to the big world of the television. it would have been nice to see them at least attempt some GBH on that Moyles chap. Oh, of course, it would have been nice to see it, instead of having to set my video for the worst time ever. Midnight on new years day. or is that new years eve. either way, i foresee that pesky 2k bug having laid waste to most of my electrical appliances by then, thus making me approach apocalypse* having never seen them on the box. *it will obviously be late.... Can i say here that if you don't stop all voting for me on list crush i may withdraw myself. (ooo-errr missus i'm sure). from 190th to 5th in a few weeks stinks of embarrassment and match fixing. And seeing as i stand to make nothing, it is not a good thing. except to perhaps massage my ego which was given a rather firm kick by the most expletive ridden words ever to come from my sisters mouth. they were, down a distant phone line from Sunderland "not listening to that twee shite again are you, no wonder everyone laughs at you" i always thought she was such a sweet girl. and i still don't know who is laughing at me, but i'll be sure to find out. and when i do. well, thats a bridge to be crossed much later on... goodnight, david +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Mon Nov 22 03:39:26 1999 From: pants at xxx.com (Senor Droolcup) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 19:39:26 -0800 Subject: Sinister: on dark days Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19991121193926.03375a70@mail.wenet.net> i'm curious about general world depression... does anyone have an opinion on whether they were most depressed between 1985-1990, 1990-1995 1995-2000? is it more age dependant or is the world just generally happier nowadays? i keep thinking that i don't hear many songs like 'how soon is now?' nowadays... senor droolcup <- reminiscing about the loglady on LP: 'it's hard to find a friend' - pedro the lion previous CDs (Film School, Down River) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From adrock at xxx.com Mon Nov 22 04:03:59 1999 From: adrock at xxx.com (Mike Jones) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 23:03:59 -0500 Subject: Sinister: fit is shit. Message-ID: <000f01bf349e$9b5e7840$99d88dcc@oemcomputer> aloha sinisters WARNING!!! Belle and Sebastian content is not until the very bottom! boo hiss...portfolio day at FIT (fashion institute of technology) in nyc was total s-h-i-t. we (myself and some friends) found none of the schools any of us wanted to speak with. as we were walking out, i stopped at a pop machine to get a diet pepsi (note: i'm a diabetic... non-diet pop is very very bad for me.) i put the dollar in the machine, hit the diet pepsi button, and to my horror, out popped TWO regular 7ups. boooooo hisssss. i was so flipping thirsty and had only twenty dollar bills left in my wallet, so i grumbled as i gave the pops to my friends, who squealed with joy. on the way out of FIT, one of my friends suggested visiting someone at NYU who no one else was friends with...bah, it was boring as hell and so is my post so let me get to the point. on the way back to the path station, we stopped at other music and i bought an LP which has kept me enraptured for the hours since i first played it- neutral milk hotel's "in the aeroplane over the sea". i have their 1st album, and i love it, but WOW. "in the aeroplane.." is a downright masterpiece. in fact, because of that, my b&s-and-high llamas-playing streak has ended. anyhow, i saw melissa cox, the girl who gathered crushes at bowlie for the last issue (#12) chickfactor magazine, at other music. she works there. at least i'm pretty sure that's her. oh yes!!! the point of my post!! one stuart david was kind enough to take part in a rather long email interview for me a few days ago... i don't want to post it here yet because i'm placing it on a website i'm working on, which will be up soon. i just want to say...dont ever ask cornelius for a remix. good things don't come cheap. he's expensive. (two and a half times as expensive as pulp to be exact.) i'll post a link to my site as soon as it's finished. "Every time i get my period it feels like I have a sweet secret..." Anne Frank gracias, aloha, bonjour, mike j adrock at netrom.com **ape shall never kill ape** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aconover at xxx.net Mon Nov 22 03:24:29 1999 From: aconover at xxx.net (aconover at xxx.net) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 22:24:29 -0500 Subject: Sinister: smartie mine Message-ID: <199911220418.XAA29972@s1.nassau.cv.net> umm... yes, dear, i'm out of the nursery, and now i don't really know what to do with myself. but it didn't seem to take as long as i was told... um, i'll jump right into it. i love this girl, and she loves b+s and looper and everyone else, and i love her. and she lives many miles away, in philidelphia. i went to visit her for a bit; it's been four weeks since i left her. she loves this boy from scotland who she's going to visit over new year's. she loves me, i think, but she loves him more. i should write a song about my silly twee problems, heh. but i don't know enough chords. - adam aconover at optonline.net Tempus Fugit is at: http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paularathoon at xxx.com Mon Nov 22 10:41:26 1999 From: paularathoon at xxx.com (Paul Arathoon) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 10:41:26 GMT Subject: Sinister: The tube: to sum up Message-ID: <19991122104127.96529.qmail@hotmail.com> 5 minutes of sublime brilliance 175 minutes of absolute crap. why did i believe they would let Belle And Sebastian play a second song? Why did I think that it would be worth watching Paul Mccartney doing the motions just in case they decided to end the show with B&S? not impressed at all Paul ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Mon Nov 22 10:51:42 1999 From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 02:51:42 PST Subject: Sinister: come sail your ships Message-ID: <19991122105143.97520.qmail@hotmail.com> Good morning.It's 10:35am and I'm up on a Monday morning.Hmmm.... Not me. Last night was...it was...oh my...no words to describe King Ink. That man is just...well...so difficult to say. OK.We were late so we go running in the concert hall and there is this guy with his guitar trying to persuade us that he's a performer.Well that was a great one hour for showing to potential guitar players how to practice those chords.I don't remember his name but he's from that band,"The Good Sons".Anyone knows anything about it?Anyway,there's a break and then...HE makes his entrance.(Oh!No Bad Seeds,unfortunately) HE IS THERE!Dressed in his usual suit,he goes to the piano and...ooh,his passion fills in the place.Oh!very important detail;we were not allowed to smoke.BASTARDS!But he did it.He lit his fug like saying "fuck off you and your stupid rules".Well,there was a guy in the audience who pointed out this restrection to Nick but no luck whatsoever for us.So what do you do when you listen to Henry Lee and no fug on your hand,none of this sweet feeling of smoke in your lungs(sorry,I love smoking)?I pretended. Oh!And that guy who played the violin was brilliant.Always in the shadow,surrounded by the smoke of his cigarette,you could hardly see him in that low lit room. ONE MORE MR.CAVE!Just perfect he was. Well.That's it.I'll go now and return back to my dream world. Yous all should've been there. Oh,he said a NEW song;"Love letter" it was. Adieu,Zoe ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Nov 22 12:18:35 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 13:18:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Mr Rusty Never Sleeps Message-ID: <01bf34e3$b333cc00$LocalHost@itjfvkli> I am friends with Mr Rusty from "Dougal and the Blue Cat", but I don't go on about it. Well, not until now anyway. Mr Rusty and I were discussing Isobel's apparent unpopularity the other day and we came to the conclusion that it's traditional for a group's fans to dislike at least one member of the group. Beach Boys fans have great fun hating Mike Love, Beatles fans cringe at the very mention of George Harrison's sitar, 70s WHO fans, and indeed the 70s WHO, have always enjoyed Daltrey bashing. Speaking of the 70s WHO, have you heard the new all-star version of I Know It's Only Rock'n'Roll But I Like It? It's got a bit of 70s WHO tagged on the end. Makes sitting through it worthwhile. I managed to spot one pop star mystery voice, that of Mrs Cranberries. But I digress. Another great rock tradition B&S are holding up is that of band members releasing dodgy side projects. Just like in the great days of Yes and Deep Purple. Somewhere along the line there's always a sneaky suspicion that someone's trying to take advantage of the dedicated fans' willingness to spend their pocket money on any old crap associated with their favourite band. I don't think it's the musicians who feel that way, they probably feel a genuine need to express themselves over four sides of synthesizer experiments or dogbreath spoken word monotony. But I doubt if any of it would get recorded, let alone released, if it weren't for the possibility of putting a little sticker on the cover saying "featuring players and singers from Deep Purple". It's little wonder some people end up sulking about it. Needless to say, these are not my own opinions, but those of Mr Rusty. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Archel1978 at xxx.com Mon Nov 22 14:35:09 1999 From: Archel1978 at xxx.com (Archel1978 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:35:09 EST Subject: Sinister: a come-on from the horse on 7th avenue... Message-ID: <0.876eda11.256aae9d@aol.com> ... well that's what i used to think it said. my mum has got a new version of aol and navigating my way around it has reduced me to the hopeless luddite i always was inside. it seems to be censoring some of your messages, and giving the rest to me in reverse order. i can't cope. also, i've started talking to myself (or to the tv, or the radio, or the walls). do you think i'm becoming a mad reclusive artist? whatever, i'm staying in and i think it's a sin that i have to leave the house at all. a sorry sight i presented last night, lying on the sofa knitting and shouting along to 'le pastie' on my walkman. you're the heroINE, and you'll be doing FINE, la LA LA. what's that? ex-boyfriend on the phone? sod it ...eucalyptus, WESTWARD BOUND, da DI DA. (actually he wasn't on the phone, nor was anyone else. all week.) i have challenged jenowl to a knitting race. who will finish their scarf first? lay your bets now ladies and gentlemen. is it the bt cellnet advert that funkyseb is on? i must remember to pay attention next time and not just shout randomly at the telly like i do the rest of the day. missed the tube. an calculation to ponder though: is 5 minutes of b&s worth 3 hours of chris moyles? and if so, how many hours of chris moyles would it take to cancel out the benefits of b&s? i know i had other things to respond to, but since my email is apparently scattered throughout the 4 corners of the globe, i can't find out what. going slowly insane, archel xxx ***************************** ******************* *********************************** Rachel Playforth archel at iname.com Write poetry? Send it to 'buzzwords' now! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com Mon Nov 22 16:41:00 1999 From: sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com (GEORGE DICKIE) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 08:41:00 PST Subject: Sinister: GET RID OF YOUR FLESH/CLEAN YOURSELF/DREAM/THE POD 2000 Message-ID: <19991122164101.96331.qmail@hotmail.com> YER YER I KNOW I SAID I WAS NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT MOZ FOR A WHILE BUT THE NME WHICH WROTE OF THE GIGS I WENT 2 (THE FIRST 2) SAID THAT THERE WERE PEOPLE THERE WITH B&S T-SHIRTS ON WELL I KNOW I WORE ONE BUT I DID NOT C ANYONE ELSE WAS THERE OTHERS OR DID THE NME JUST MAKE IT UP MMM MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION I SHOULD ASK NME NOT U BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE MMMMMMMMMMMM RIGHT THE TUBE YER B&S WERE GOOD I WATCHED ISOBEL AS IF SHE WAS AN ANIMAL IN THE WILD SHE IS JUST INTERESTING TO WATCH I CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE HATE HER SHE IS JUST ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT MAKE U ASK QUESTIONS WHEN PEOPLE CAN NOT ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS THEY GET ANGRY AND JUST SAY THEY HATE HER AS IT IS EASIER ON THE MIND MMMMMMMMMMM ISOBEL IS MORE COMPLEX THAN HATE AND BEYOND LOVE MMMMMMMMMMMM I SOMETIMES THINK I THINK TOOOOOOOO MUCH BUT THEN I THINK ABOUT IT MORE AND BECOME A THINKING PARADOX AND GET SCARED THAT I MAYBE CREATING A BLACKHOLE IN MY OWN MIND MY TOP 10 TEEN FILMS LIST THANG HAS STILL NOT GONE UP MMMMMMMMM BUT I WILL NOT LOOSE HOPE I HAVE XMAS LIGHTS WRAPPED AROUND THE HEAD OF MY BED I WILL BE SWITCHING THEM ON FOR THE FIRST TIME TONIGHT 9.00PM MY STUFFED ANIMALS WILL BE THERE AND IT WILL BE SWITCHED ON BY JIGGLYPUFF (THE POKEMON) IF U WOULD ALL CHEER, SCREAM, CLAP ETC AT 9.00PM TONIGHT IT WILL BE APPRECIATED *I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS JUST FIELDS* LOVE AND XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXMAS ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Mon Nov 22 17:29:29 1999 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 17:29:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The tube: to sum up Message-ID: <80256831.0060175A.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> >5 minutes of sublime brilliance >175 minutes of absolute crap. >not impressed at all >Paul Well this is a all a bit negative. I mean if you looked at everything like that then where would you be? "Frankly, I'm not sure about this whole 'life' thing . I've done some sums and only 0.2% of it seems to be filled with sublime brilliance. What a con!". Yes it was a shame that any hopes of a second B&S song being fitted in were dashed by Paul McCartney's insistence on banging out an extended version (false endings and everything!) of some 'rock n roll classic' that seemed to be called 'We're gonna have a party tonight!' with the bloke out of Travis as Jim'll Fix It third guitarist. But I was still high from the sublime brilliance bit. It was a perfect moment. One second Chris Moyles was roaring "And later we've got only got SIR PAUL MCCARTNEY!!!" for the fifteenth time and the next, there they were. They played like *angels*. The song was lifted by the introduction of a wonderfully graceful alternate guitar line. Perhaps some musically-minded person could explain to me what the difference was. Mick had had his trumpet confiscated and played some kind of guitar instead. Isobel had had her hairclips confiscated and was sporting a bob. Later she whistled out of tune. I love Isobel. Stuart fluffed one line because (I am reliably informed) he was distracted by someone breakdancing in the crowd. Stuart David sat apart from the others (rancid piss smell?) sprawled out like he was playing a sitar. It was just a glorious five minutes. And then it was over. And it cut to a 'comedy' scene in the OB room. They had gone on unannounced and they left uncommented upon. It was like they weren't supposed to be there. Perhaps they only made it on becuase of Stuart calling in a favour off uncle Rupert. >i'm curious about general world depression... What a great opening gambit! >does anyone have an opinion on whether they >were most depressed between 1985-1990, 1990-1995 >1995-2000? is it more age dependant or is the >world just generally happier nowadays? >i keep thinking that i don't hear many songs >like 'how soon is now?' nowadays.. Everyone's miserable as sin, but I think people started realising how boring it was to sing songs about it. I mean the odd one is OK, but even Morrissey only wrote about four "I'm fed up" songs whilst he was in the Smiths that weren't lifted by humour. And most of those had uplifting musical accompaniment, so they were OK too. What I'l trying to say is that I don't think much of 'Unloveable'. Buzzcocks wrote a song complaining that 'Everybody's Happy Nowadays' back in 1934 so I guess these things go in cycles. >>>>>>> Isobel stinks >>>>>> That's a very hurtful thing to say. And anyway, she doesn't >>>>> She does she does she does >>>> I'm a close personal friend and I can confidently say that she doesn't >>> She bloody does - and what's more she can't sing >> I'd like to see you say that to her face > Already have done, so ner It's funny - for ages on Sinister it was the great unspoken that all the girls hated Isobel and all the boys fancied her. Then someone broke the rule and all hell broke loose. Don't take it all too seriously, kids. I have it on good authority that Sarah has an unrivalled collection of Gentle Waves rarities hidden under her bed. Nick xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Mon Nov 22 18:53:03 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:53:03 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Hogmanay Meetup in Glasgow? Message-ID: <002c01bf351a$cf208520$45ceb0c2@default> Hiya. I'm sorry for using the list to ask, but if any Sinisterines are going to be bored, like me, and/or alone, also like me, on Hogmanay, do any of you fancy getting together in Glasgow and seeing in the new year together? If you are interested, please mail me PRIVATELY: jasonandreas at breathemail.net Thanks :) --Jason "May all your dreams but one come true." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Mon Nov 22 19:18:23 1999 From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 11:18:23 PST Subject: Sinister: blop,blop,blop... Message-ID: <19991122191823.48416.qmail@hotmail.com> OK.I now I'm not supposed to write stupid things on the list-please,mummy,don't do anything to me-,but,I'm happy and I just wanted to write back. "You're just a baby baby girl so kiss me on the cheek before you go to school..." OK.That's it.Have fun.ALWAYS! I LOVE YOU GUYS! BLOP,BLOP,BLOP! ZOE ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From koendcr at xxx.com Mon Nov 22 22:46:43 1999 From: koendcr at xxx.com (Koen De Crock) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:46:43 GMT Subject: Sinister: Convince me Message-ID: <19991122224644.20595.qmail@hotmail.com> Brandt Fundak wrote: >For instance, why should I buy the Gentle Waves? Of all of the B & S >related bands, I am the most leary about Gentle Waves. I see the CD >often, and yet something always keeps me from picking it up. Convince me >otherwise. > >And what is the deal with Felt? Should I buy a felt album? What other >bands should I look into? I am seriously trying to fill a void here, so I >need the help. > >Boy, I need help with focus. > >Brandt Okay, you need some help for some new records. First of all, don't buy gentle waves. This is a personal opinion, but when Isobel sings solo, she sends shivers down my spine. So what should you buy. Or what do I think is good. 1. Nectarine no. 9. Good, messy band with some great albums. To start, buy the compilation they released a few weeks earlier. Good value for money. I don't have it yet: couldn't find it in the shops in Belgium, so had to order it and still didn't receive it. 2. The Carve up. Comp. from the show with the same name on the old XFM. Great comp. with a brilliant accoustic version of Nick Caves' "the Mercy Seat". 3. Sofa. Like Joy Division meeting Slint on a dark november night. Dark, noisy, moody but brill. 4. Godspeed you Black Emperor. A must have. Noisy postrock. Cellos, violins and guitars fighting at the end of the world. 5. Do make say think. Postrock too, but not noisy. Expect a bit of a bumpy ride but after a few listens you'ill love it. 6. The Queers. Just have some tapes of it without any references of songs'names. Great ooh aah sunshine rock. Check out their song "I enjoy being a boy" on the carve up. 7. Zita Swoon. Belgium's finest. Beautiful melange of a bit of Tom Waits madness and everything else that's good. Must have. 8. Low. Slowcore of the finest kind. Great vocal harmonies and lovely, soft, quiet guitars. Their latest album is their best. Music so beautiful that you cannot believe it. 9. Sigur Ros. Icelandic band that just released a single on Fat Cat records. The rest of their CD's is only available through expensive import, even in Belgium. Music so beautiful that you'll be holding your breath in awe. 10. Seam. Indie rock slowcore Slint meets Pavement meets ... Beautiful songs about long lost loves, sometimes a bit punky sometimes so quiet that even your grandma will love it. Great voice b.t.w. 11. Yo la tengo, .... There's so much more, but my time is up. Sorry. See you at the next one and have a good time K. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paul__22 at xxx.com Mon Nov 22 23:34:50 1999 From: paul__22 at xxx.com (paul cains) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 15:34:50 PST Subject: Sinister: An evening with Nick Drake Message-ID: <19991122233450.64830.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi everyone, this may or may not be of interest to those of you living in the Bristol area. The cube cinema on Kings square in Kingsdown is showing a documentry about the life of Nick Drake. Also the director of the documentry who lives in Bristol will be there to answer questions and there is some other stuff going on as well(not sure what). It's on Thursday the 25th of November and it looks sure to be a good night, I don't know what time it starts, but if anyone is interested I will find out for you. Bye for now, Love, Paul. XX ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 23 00:22:29 1999 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 00:22:29 BST Subject: Sinister: knitting buses Message-ID: <2DACE8C5CA3@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> evenin' campers, look!!! i did it!!! (nearly) i went for (almost) a week without posting!!! i'm just a model of restraint was excited to watch the tube thingie, but, lo and behold i forgot. i tuned in at 11:30, just in time to see robbie williams cavorting with his ladyfriends (i got the impression he preffered the blonde one), and paul mcartney trying to relive his lost youth, while blokey from travis looked on and drooled. gutted!! well not quite, there's always the repeat, which i will, of course also forget to watch, as i always do with everything good. has anyone visited sinister.com or sinister.net? they're GOTH sites, perhaps that explains something. and... jeepster.com is about... ....jeeps!! imagine how confused you'd be if you were a fan of jeeps and had done things the other way round. i have an admission, all this talk of making scarves has made me very jealous, because the awful truth is... ...i can't knit!! i know i should have learned when i was small, and i did try, but i was always just too cack-handed (don't think i've ever typed that phrase before) so now i'm a failure at this most twee of pastimes. nevermind eh? i had the most b+s-esque day of my life the other day, i realised that in the space of it being friday i had ridden on five different buses. i'm sure for all the cosmopolitan sinistereenies out there this is considerably less than exciting, but i was impressed. does anyone else find when they watch the football results and a team has scored 7 goals and it is written as 7 [SEVEN] that the voice in their head that reads things out on the telly exclaims SEVEN in a very loud voice, as if in disbelief? why do these things come to me when i'm writing to you guys? i wasn't thinking about football before i sat down in front of the computer. why? why? why? oh, and i'm still waiting for my first list crush vote. if only you could see me! sigh! (fiona, and everyone who knows her fall off their chairs in fits of laughter at the very idea of crushdom) time for bed said zebedee, stay beautiful, fiona... ...reinventing, and overusing punctuation!!! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From BradWhiddon at xxx.com Tue Nov 23 00:30:09 1999 From: BradWhiddon at xxx.com (BradWhiddon at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 19:30:09 EST Subject: Sinister: mexican bandits Message-ID: <0.2fc66154.256b3a11@aol.com> isobel ain't nuthin' but a skank slut with a poorly operating digestive tract. she called me up the other day and was all like, "so, brad, likes i was sayin', yo! i gots the runs like a sumbitch, muthafucka, know what i'm sayin', word? yo check this, i'll toss your salad for some crank. come on, you trick daddy bastud. help a bitch out." then i heard someone walk in the room and she screamed and i heard shots and the line went dead. so, has anyone been keeping up with the norm show on abc? my cable got cut off and that was my favorite show and i miss it. the new kincaid. album is really good. it's called "kincaid plays super hawaii" and everyone should go get it. moochas grassy ass, brad +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 23 00:45:38 1999 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 00:45:38 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: an old friend returns Message-ID: I was sitting in my room today when I heard a tap tap tapping upon my window. When I looked out I saw a dark coloured bird just sitting there. It's a bloody raven I thought, I'll wring the damn things neck and it'll bother me never more. When I opened the window and made a grab for it though it said wait Owen don't and then it said you've been reading too much Poe again haven't you. Fuck I said it's the Poetry Parrot. Yes thats right it said now let me in and give me a wash cos I'm all dirty and then I'll tell you what I've been up to. well I did this and soon our friends plumage was as bright as ever and he sarted talking to me. He said this: You remember that I used to fly around the sinister members staying with each one for a week and then giving all of sinister a poem before the member sent me on to another member. Well a while back I got lost somewhere in north America and just wandered lonely as a cloud for quite some time. It was tough and with nobody to look after me I became the dirty wretch which you saw earlier. I realised that I had to do something or I would die but how could I find a member of sinister in such a large world. It was then that I thought I know if I fly to Scotland and then just follow the smell of cinnamon then I'll find that strange wizard chap and so I did and now that I've found you we can give all of sinister a poem and then you can send me on so that we can have a poem every monday and things will be just like they used to be. well I told the parrot that I thought this was a great idea and we picked up a book of poetry called the new modern poetry which we thought was funny 'cos the book was over 30 years old and anyway it fell open at a page with this poem on, it's called Parliament Of Cats and it's by D.J. Enright. The cats caught a Yellow-vented Bulbul. Snatched from them, for three days it uttered Its gentle gospel, enthroned above their heads. Became loved and respected of all the cats. Then succumbed to internal injuries. The cats regretted it all profoundly, they would never forget the evil they had done. Later the cats caught a Daurian Starling. And ate it. For a Daurian Starling is not A Yellow-vented Bulbul. (genuflection.) Its colouring is altogether different. It walks in a different, quite unnatural fashion. The case is not the same at all as that of The Yellow-vented Bulbul. (genuflection.) The kittens caught a Yellow-vented Bulbul. And ate it. What difference, they ask, between A Yellow-vented Bulbul and that known criminal The Daurian Starling? Both move through the air In a quite unnatural fashion. This is not The Yellow-vented Bulbul of our parents' day, Who was a Saint of course! (genuflection.) Well I hope you liked that, we did, but the Poetry Parrot says that he's glad he isn't a Yellow-vented Bulbul or a Daurian Starling. I'm also glad that I'm not a Yellow-vented Bulbul or a Daurian Starling. Anyway we were talking about where the parrot could go next and at first we thought that GEORGE DICKIE could be a good idea as his use of space can be quite exhillerating. but then we thought no cos all those capitals would give poor old ee cummings a headache and we couldn't have that could we. Instead I sent the parrot on to Archel in the hope that after looking after him for a week he might induce her to give us one of her own great poems. I also thought this was a good way for her to inspire other people to write something and send it to her for her little publication (shameless plug I know). so the parrot has gone and I'm left all alone so it must be time for bed. we'll meet again in one weeks time to see what's in Archels head. Goodnight love owen With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mariel12 at xxx.ar Tue Nov 23 02:12:10 1999 From: mariel12 at xxx.ar (Mariel Abad) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 23:12:10 -0300 Subject: Sinister: ...in a world of funny changes... Message-ID: <000101bf3558$6b1fbee0$1c0f33c8@squirrel> Hello all! I m just out off the nursery but I ll leave my introduction for tomorrow. I m sure i ll be more inspirated. Although, I want to tell David Geraghty that his earthly possessions are safe because I have certainly heard Mr Daniel Johnston. And the interesting point is that I m writting from Argentina (that southamerican country lost in the end of the world) where the chances are almost zero. Ok, i must confess my first approach to his music was the sweet and naive song that titles our messages but in the Yo la tengo s "very much decent" version (from "Fakebook" album). Have you heard the Casper s song? I ve been reading all your messages guys, and enjoying when you mentioned my favourites bands (apart from B&S, obviously) like Flaming Lips, Guided by Voices, Olivia Tremor Control, Nick Cave and Richard Davies, who are completely unknown here. Stop your sobbing, girl!!! It s a warm and beautiful spring night... I would like to know who is the another argentine sinister. Do anybody have idea? Now, if you are so nice to help me... would you tell me what does it mean "Twee"?. Please, this is the first and last time I ask you about a word i don nt understand, but you use it always!! See you Mariel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From adam_dbt at xxx.com Tue Nov 23 06:21:12 1999 From: adam_dbt at xxx.com (Adam Dobrodt) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:21:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: knitting buses Message-ID: <19991123062112.15042.rocketmail@web1604.mail.yahoo.com> hello, i am coming out of lurker mode to profess my sudden inexplicable love for fiona and her beautiful, lovely, AND sensual use of punctuation. it truly does move a soul. however, i am a bit upset with her failure to watch "the tube thingie." it upsets me because those of us without the pleasure of living across that big ol body of water think you take your close proximity to all the good band action for granted. of course, since i don't actually know anyone else here in sunny wisconsin who knows of b&s (except for two people who i never really talk to unfortunately), i probably shouldn't be making such a blanket statement, but oh well, i'm a bastard. i also want to take your time, by announcing that i am hopelessly in love with Archel. i know, i know, i can't love two at once, but the truth is i'm gay and just have these cute little grade school crushes on archel and fiona. when archel finishes her scarf i will be so happy and feel that life is that much more complete. in regards to the "ISOBEL CONSPIRACY" project, i say, let the kids have their fun. sarah's stories slay me every time. i'm sure the members of b&s would be much more embarrassed than offended. anyways, that's it for now.... back to my campaign of spreading the b&s gospel across wisconsin; one cow at a time. adam d. the king of his 9' x 12' room sinks back into lurker mode... p.s. fiona: sorry i sent a copy of this exclusively to you. i just hit the wrong button... oops. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hewits at xxx.uk Tue Nov 23 10:31:20 1999 From: hewits at xxx.uk (stephen hewitt) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 10:31:20 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Stu D Webchat Message-ID: <9188A3453EEED111BD7300805FEDEB699D802F@park_ex> Last night as i was casually perusuing the newsgroup, i happened across a message for a Stu D live webchat. Imagine my surprise when I realise it was happening AT THAT VERY MOMENT!! So I clicked on the link and waited in the appropriate chatroom. Then the organiser guy said Stu couldn't get into that chat room, cos his computer was rubbish or something so someone, in their infinite wisdom, decided we should go to lycos chat. All I can say is i will never moan about undernet again, splits, lags were as nothing compared to this absolutely horrendous so called chat room. So about an hour later, after much faffing about, Stu turned up and me and four other people (johnfm and James Thornily (who I alerted from #sinister) and two others) had a bit of a chat. MAIN POINTS OF THE CHAT 1. Stu D thinks we are "freaky". On suggesting moving to #sinister cos Lycos was "pish" Stu D suggested finding a room on Virgin cos "sinister is a bit freaky" (he may have a point :)) 2. They recorded two songs for the Tube. Unfortunately didn't get a chance to ask him what the other one was or when it may surface (sorry) 3. Stu D WILL NOT be touring with B&S when they tour again. 4. In fact there were subtle undertones that he might be leaving the band to concentrate on Looper and stuff (can I stress this is simply hearsay and reading between the lines and NOT FACT) 5. When asked about the new B&S album he said he didn't know a lot about it (sorry, paraphrasing again, was trying to make some sort of transcript but it didn't quite work and it's at home). 6. He likes Dublin (sorry, this is getting a bit desparate, but it wasn't the most organised of webchats) My head was spinning by this point, due to the way the chat room updated, so I bade them farewell. Unfortunately I didn't pick up enough courage to ask him if he smelt of wee, but that's because I'm a cowardy cowardy custard (where's Starry when you need her :)). Frankly it was a bit of a shambles, but it was a laugh (although it's prob'ly sent my phone bill through the roof). If I was a proper investigative journalist type person (as opposed to drooling fanboy) I probably could have come up with some inscisive questions (or plucked up enough courage to ask him if he smelt of wee). These are the guys who organised it: http://www.abisti.demon.co.uk/index.htm I don't know if they're going to put a transcript up, might be quite difficult as we ended up not using their chat room, but there is a little piece about Stu D and the book. Oh, if I can just add my twopenn'orth about The Tube. I remember my mother telling me about when the beatles did "all you need is love" on telly for the first time and they had to sit through something ridiculous like 6 hours of horrendous rubbish before 5 minutes of the beatles, so maybe we didn't have it too bad. And IMHO anyone who wants to see the video should have to sit through the full 3 hours of mistimed links, vacant faces and Chris Moyles' mum talking about lo-fi (what I don't understand is why I didn't just switch off after they had been on, the logical part of my brain was saying "or course they're not going to be on again" and some other part was saying "aaahhh, but what if they are" and that part won unanimously, as it always does). wow, how much content xoxo CarsmileSteve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dee at xxx.ie Tue Nov 23 11:50:59 1999 From: dee at xxx.ie (Denise Power) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:50:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: no, wait, you see, it's really funny. Message-ID: The young man beside me in the computer room just peered at the monitor of MY computer and said, Hmmm, mailing list, which one is it ?Sinister , what's that ? I felt a little taken aback and said, Er...Belle and Sebasti... but before I could finish he said, Mailing list, yeah ? I remember when I used to be on a mailing list. Police, it was. Ever heard of The police ? At this, I spluttered into my, by now cold 911 coffee which was made by the ugliest of 911 workers. (The one with the fangs , for those of you who are familiar with the various traits of the 911 worker in UCD.) Why don't you send into that list of yours, asking them for "Your top ten albums of all time." "I think it's already been done." I said, looking around feverishly wondering why the hell no-body was stopping him from talking to me. At this he laughed. Ha ha ha . He said. No it's ironic. They'd still be sending them to me if I didn't unsubscribe immediately. Seriously, do it for the laugh. So for that man, I'm doing it for the laugh. What's your top ten albums ever ? Come on, do it for the laugh. What ?????You want mine. (whisper) I don't even own ten albums. (I can make it up ?) (said confidently ) : Okay, here goes, my top ten albums. 1."No jacket required" Phil Collins 2."Innuendo" Queen 3."Tiger Milk" B&S 4."Bad" Michael Jackson 5."Duophonic"Charles & Eddie 6.Grease OST 7.Batman OST 8."lovesexy" Prince 9."Mercury Falling" Sting 10. "Greatest Hits" Bee Gees Honorary mentions: "....Sinister" B&S "Band on the Run" Wings "Made in England" Elton John "Lunatic of God's Creation" Deicide So that's about it, it doesn't take long at all and has greatly amused a person whose name I don't even know. Goodbye and God bless dee +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk Tue Nov 23 12:17:23 1999 From: elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk (Elizabeth Daplyn) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:17:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: hairy and pretentious Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Tue Nov 23 14:01:32 1999 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 14:01:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: More Nalda Said gushing Message-ID: <80256832.004D2218.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> 'Nalda Said is attracting great acclaim not because it is a book by the bass player of Belle & Sebastian, but because it's a fabulous novel'? Do they mean in the original sense of 'fabulous'. Enough carping, I really ought to read it myself. Far be it from me to give credence to anything Carsmile Steve says, but Stuart David leaving has always seemed likely. He always seems to be dissociating himself from the whole thing. Which is fine. Awkward boy. Like Jack Nicholson in 'Five Easy Pieces', except not really at all. Ailsa Ross thinks he only writes songs like 'Paper Boat' and 'Winter Wooskie' to take the piss out of Belle and Thebathtian, but I think that's a wicked thing to suggest. I would join this tape tree, but I was hoping that the old one might be brought back to life. If anyone around the world has either of my two tapes I'd quite like to know where they are. Specifically, I'd like to know what the track listings are. Also, someone's tape had a lovely ramshackle cover version of 'Don't Worry Baby' by some indie band (Comet Gain?). I have lost my copy of this and have had no success finding out what record it appears on. Can anyone help? Here's this then: Paperback writers It keeps Michael Stipe up at night and gives Bono a break from the day job. But Nick Cave got it out of his system years ago. Dave Simpson on pop's love affair with the novel The Guardian, Monday November 22, 1999 It's early evening in Leeds and 200 young people are staring at a guitarist. But this isn't a gig. There's no lager, no dancing and no music. Stuart David, the bespectacled bass player from Belle & Sebastian, is reading from a novel. What's more, he wrote it. Nalda Said is a work of fiction written by a pop star, and they're all at it. Not autobiographies full of glossy photos, but actual creative writing. Bono is preparing his magnum opus; Michael Stipe stays up late working on his; and the unlikely figure of Royal Trux rocker Neil Hagerty has penned a fantasy yarn called Victory Chimp. It's not just novels: the poetry compilation Oral features surprisingly readable prose from the likes of Nicky Wire of Manic Street Preachers, Robbie Williams, Jarvis Cocker, PJ Harvey, Shane MacGowan and many more. But it seems that fiction is where it's at. "Any pop star who decides to take himself seriously wants to write fiction," says the literary agent Cat Ledger. "They think writing's cool." Their role models are the likes of Gil Scott-Heron, Leonard Cohen and Nick Cave, who have all written acclaimed novels. "Cave's And the Ass Saw the Angel [published in 1988] was a superb book, truly exceptional," says Mark Stanton of Edinburgh-based publishers Canongate. But can the new wave match it? "I get scores of manuscripts," says Ledger. "Some of them are astonishingly bad - I mean unreadable. These are people whose writing career should fit through the middle of a Polo mint. Naming no names, of course, but as I see from my slush pile, most of them couldn't even write their own sleevenotes." Any pop star going into writing has the undoubted advantage of a "name", something that should ensure that copies are sold. Stuart David sent three manuscripts unsuccessfully before the publishers IMP became aware that chapters of Nalda Said were appearing on his own website and became intrigued by the prospect of a Brit-winning author. "They said they would probably have published Nalda Said anyway," says David. "But I don't think they would." The cover blurb makes great play of his involvement in Belle & Sebastian, "whom Select magazine called the new Smiths". However, a pop background can work against a pop writer, especially a famous one. The old adage of "the bigger they are, the harder they fall" is particularly relevant to pop novelists in often snooty literary circles. "I think Nick Cave and Richard Hell's novels were very good," muses David Berman of US rockers Silver Jews, also a published poet. "I'm sure their music careers have aided them in getting published but did them a disservice when it came to how the books were actually read. It becomes contextualised as 'moonlighting'." Which is particularly ironic in Hell's case, as he hardly makes any music at all nowadays. So what makes a good pop novelist? Nalda Said is attracting great acclaim not because it is a book by the bass player of Belle & Sebastian, but because it's a fabulous novel. The story concerns the nameless son of a jewel thief, brought up by his aunt Nalda, who convinces the boy that he carries one of his father's hidden jewels inside his stomach. The fantasy-like narrative details his subsequent terror of and interaction with society, who he fears will discover his secret and steal his jewel. Nalda Said is a stunning insight into reclusion, a sideways glance at conservatism ("The character has his chance to change and doesn't take it. I think a lot of people are basically like that," says David) and an allegory of the way the business world treats art. What it isn't is about pop music. In fact, there isn't so much as a pop record playing in the background. But Stuart David has tapped into some very pop qualities - of fantasy and imagination. The world of pop music exists in an almost parallel universe to everyday society. The hours are irregular, there are all sorts of unusual characters who simply wouldn't be able to operate in the "normal" world of employment, and the whole exists in a kind of surreal bubble based around arrested development and - particularly - the creation and indulgence of fantasy. But even within this curious world, the pop musician is an outsider again - a nomad, a more pronounced fantasist and (by nature as well as profession) an observer. All qualities that make for good writing. "I think pop pretty much influenced that character in the book," admits David. "Even though it was written before I was releasing records, I was living like that anyway. Quite cut off from normal nine-to-five society." Novelist Magnus Mills, who himself underwent a gargantuan career shift from bus driving to a Booker nomination with The Restraint of Beasts, identifies with what we might call the loneliness of the long-distance pop singer. "As far as I'm concerned, there's no reason a musician can't write a book, and there's a chance it might be good, because of the solitary existence," he says. "Bus driving is a similar parallel universe. I was determined not to waste my time. Because of the nature of the job, you spend a lot of time either in your cab on your own or working at funny times. I think solitude and loneliness are very important to being a good writer." It has to be said that Stuart David is not a regular pop person. Quietly spoken, introspective, happily hermetic, and slyly, amiably subversive, he's less likely to throw a television out of a hotel window than to sit down in front of it to watch a programme about Rimbaud. His own life should provide a fount of inspiration. He met his wife, Karn, after they had been pen pals for eight years. They met once a year for seven, and then "just got married". Appropriately, Nalda Said is a triumph not of wordplay, but of adventure - something increasingly denied by a pop scene largely owned by four multinational companies and increasingly forced into limiting, easily packaged areas. Like many a great pop song, David's book grew from unlikely beginnings. "One of my mum's friends once told me about a poem about a dog that ate straw and shat diamonds," he says, admitting that his hero's fear of the outside world was partly influenced by biographies of John Lennon, but that any direct pop influences end there. For some, the crossover is easy. David enjoys fiction because he was always interested in reading and has studied creative writing. David Berman of Silver Jews finds song writing easier than prose, but says it's "much harder to write a great song". The KLF's Bill Drummond (whose new book 45 is out shortly) considers himself "an artist who happens to have done some pop music". But perhaps - as Magnus Mills suggests - there is a certain type of pop persona that lends itself to fiction. "I'd read a book by Jimmy Page," says Mills. "I mean, I'd imagine Julian Cope would probably write a novel [he has actually written three works of non-fiction]. Ian Dury, Lou Reed, Paul Weller... You can almost tell the types. I can't imagine anyone from Boyzone doing a book. That would be ghostwritten by Jeffrey Archer." Still, that doesn't mean we should stop hoping for literary excursions from the likes of Martine McCutcheon, Gomez, Goldie and Celine Dion. At least it would stop them making those bloody awful records. ? Nalda Said by Stuart David is published by IMP, price £7.99. Extracts can be read at www.treehouse.clara.net/nalda.htm Oral, edited by Sarah-Jane Lovett, is published by Sceptre, price £6.99. Nick xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Archel1978 at xxx.com Tue Nov 23 14:28:01 1999 From: Archel1978 at xxx.com (Archel1978 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 09:28:01 EST Subject: Sinister: i could only make you cry with these words Message-ID: <0.84da16e0.256bfe71@aol.com> well thanks a bunch owen - i was woken up at some ungodly hour this morning by the poetry parrot pecking at my skylight and screaming that he was being chased by kittens, despite his protestations that he was not in fact a daurian starling. i asked him why he couldn't use the doorbell like everyone else, but he replied that he was a metaphor and so did not have to follow such conventions. he is currently picking over the meagre bones of my creative output and laughing scornfully, but i've warned him that if he doesn't behave himself i'll make his feathers into quill pens. don't quite know how inflicting one of my own poems on you will inspire you to contribute to my little project, unless it's through anxiety about me filling it with other such pieces because of a lack of any submissions. but thank you very much for the plug, owen. may your pointy hat be blessed. someone has a grade school crush on me! this should happen far more often. having given up sex in favour of fireworks and knitting, i am quite happy to be crushed on by gay men who won't break my heart. but since i have a crush on fiona too, adam, we may be embroiled in a grade school love triangle before we know it. in fact i have a fair few innocent, rosy-cheeked, non-sexual, apple-on-desk type crushes on listees, because let's face it you're all just lovely, and can hold my hand in the dinner queue any time. i finally saw funkyseb on tv last night, a flash of talent and beauty in the middle of coronation street. i looked up from a crucial stage in my knitting (had to go out for wool supplies today, but i'm storming ahead with it again now) and there he was. i do truly feel sorry for US listees now. the poetry parrot is nagging me for a share of the beans on toast i'm just about to make, so i'd better go. funny how he forgets he's a metaphor when it comes to food.... luv archel xxx *********** Rachel Playforth archel at iname.com Write poetry? Send it to 'buzzwords' now! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Tue Nov 23 15:04:25 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:04:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Tailored-suit message In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi list: In spite of my efforts to dress this message properly since the subject I will miserably fail given physicists' sense of fashion.Elizabeth Daplyn pointed it out in the previous days,not helping to raise at all my self-assertiveness, quite low this week, and today her signature was noticed by these short-sighted,tired of too many hours in front of a screen eyes :'NEVER KNOWINGLY UNDERDRESSED', which would bring my worries to the top.Someone with such a way to end her messages probably has 'taste',and obviousy all my efforts since being bullied at school because of wearing odd hairclips have been useless.I was born with a physicist style and will die with it, let's face it and talk about other subjects. I feel somehow relieved because I wear no headscarfs, so at least I haven't commmited the worst mistake, which is trying to be too trendy and getting clothes from your local hi-st. all at once...and today I wear a cardi!!! My morning started with Stu D. praised and praised in The Guardian pages and a cup of coffee,enjoying joyously the view of my kitchen with no washing up at all,as it had been done really late before going to bed,unexpectedly,by someone else.Maybe it was the poetry magpie.As I resemble one,maybe she is trying to become bestest chums and soon I will be walking with a rhapsodian magpie on my shoulder. I know people normally read today's paper at breakfast,not yesterday's, but those are people who are in the world,not me.And I also knew our efficient librarian would post it to the list.Probably Wee Karn is behind such adjectives. The Tube : I had these vibrations (quite hippy, as the sihtar stuff) that Stuart D had chosen that position symbolising his prompt quitting.I don't know why.And whereabouts was Chris,my fav,wee and angry Pokemon?I couldn't even have a glance of him wearing GLASSES,must be much blinder than I thought,blimey.What about his new persona without blanket-jacket on?It was great,that jacket,and it didn't smell of pee,sure. xxx Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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Message-ID: <000e01bf35cc$40078b60$f829893e@preinstalledco> hey everyone! i am feeling very happy today. a friend of mine from when i was very little and living in cornwall e-mailed me for the first time in over two years today. i was so surprised i nearly fell of my seat and headbutted the computer. i mailed her back and then she replied and then i wrote.... and well, i've now spent most of the day on my sitting in front of this screen typing away. it's been great! anyway, the point is: get in touch with old mates cos it's really lovely. and much better than writing essays on the victorian poor laws in britain. oh yes. which, as some of you may suspect is also why i'm posting, twice in a month god damn. blimey! i am also very excited about making my tape for the tape tree. i spent all of yesterday surrounded by every record i own (well, apart from the shit ones), trying to decide what to put on it. it's a very difficult business y'know. so far i've only got three definite songs! my choice is made easier though by the fact i can't pick a stone roses track cos i haven't got tape-to-tape recording on my stereo, and everything by the mighty roses is on cassette. maybe i should upgrade.... i just thought i'd add to this comment from fiona: 'does anyone else find when they watch the football results and a team has scored 7 goals and it is written as 7 [SEVEN] that the voice in their head that reads things out on the telly exclaims SEVEN in a very loud voice, as if in disbelief?' they don't when the team who let the seven goals in is oxford united . after conceding seven twice last season (and once was at HOME! FUCK!!) people just expect it now....still, i'm sure it gives everyone else a laugh.... i'm sure the reason my tape is taken so long is because i have an overwhelming urge to listen to everything as i go along. it's like when you tidy your room and instead of tidying you sit in the middle of the floor with the recorder you found under your bed trying to play 'london's burning'. and then start reading all the magazines that have piled up from months back. it's amazing the stuff you can find in old nme's. i found the review of 'dog on wheels' (my fave b&s e.p) the other day which was nostalgic to say the least. and very bizarre because i didn't actually know of b&s then. i only got into them when i heard 'lazy line painter jane'. so that was a pretty surreal experience. anyway, i'm going to love you and leave you as my eyes are going funny now. lots of love rachel xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Tue Nov 23 16:32:00 1999 From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael Barrett) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:32:00 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand. References: <000e01bf35cc$40078b60$f829893e@preinstalledco> Message-ID: <004501bf35d0$456aa570$7336c22b@BROADCAST> > cos i haven't got > tape-to-tape recording on my stereo, and everything by the mighty roses is > on cassette. maybe i should upgrade.... I hope everybody (in the uk at least) is sitting making up tapes as we speak, as a tape-tree is a mighty thing and participation in one makes you, by association, equally mighty. Unfortunately I'm not going to join this one as last time all the power and might that I was suddenly endowed with went to my head, and I started running amok and causing assorted troubles all over the shop (I was trying to sell my story to be the villain in the next Bond movie, but they went with that Campbell tramp instead). I'm not suggesting we set one up just yet, but would anyone be interested in a minidisc branch of the tree? I don't reckon there will be enough people who are to make one worthwhile, but let me know if this is an idea that boats your rock. I need to go. Does anyone live in Evesham? If so, wave if you see me in a pub in the next few days. Bye, Michael +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jbaze at xxx.com Tue Nov 23 18:48:58 1999 From: jbaze at xxx.com (Josh Baze) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:48:58 -0600 Subject: Sinister: If you ain't an American Idlewild fan, delete this message Message-ID: <072439845C05D311A3E90004ACB8B73410D38D@REVEXCHANGE> Scotland's Idlewild Embarks On First American Tour Raucous Scotland punksters turned noisy, post-Britpop poster boys Idlewild are set to embark on their first ever U.S. tour despite garnering rave reviews in the U.K. for the past three years. The band will support Verbena in Milwaukee on Monday (Nov. 22) and hit few select East Coast cities through Dec. 1 in Washington, D.C. Singer Roddy Woomble just wants to make it off the stage in one piece. "As long as people don't throw anything at us, it'll be fine," he says. "I once got hit in the stomach with a full can of Bud. It felt like I'd been punched." Idlewild is touring in support of the recently-released and quite good Hope Is Important (Odeon/Capitol), now a year-old album in the U.K. Idlewild has only previously played one gig in America, at the 1998 CMJ Music Marathon. "It was a complete disaster to be honest," says Woomble. "We were supposed to be playing for Americans and it ended up being a bunch of people from Scotland!" Meanwhile, Idlewild has also already written 16 songs for its next effort, three of which have been recorded in America. There are also plans in the works to bring that band back to the States for a more expansive tour in the new year. Here is Idlewild's upcoming tour dates: * Nov. 22, Milwaukee, Cactus Club * Nov. 23, Minneapolis, 400 Bar * Nov. 24, Chicago, Lounge Ax * Nov. 29, New York, Mercury Lounge * Nov. 30, Boston, Middle East * Dec. 1, Washington, D.C., The Garage +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Tue Nov 23 18:55:38 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:55:38 -0500 Subject: Sinister: StuD in print Message-ID: <199911231356_MC2-8E48-49E1@compuserve.com> Gentle Readers, Nick D's transcribed Grauniad article mentioned the "Oral" compliation twice, which reminded me that half a year ago Stuart David told me about the song Piano Window Piano: "The story from the song is going to be in a collection of poetry and stories released by Hodder&SToughton called Oral. Along with poems and stories by Nick Cave and Jarvis and Shane McGowan." Does anyone have a copy of this book, & if so, does anything by our Stuart D feature in it? Or was he lost in the change of publisher? If he *did* stop touring with B&S, how would we tell? Seems to me they have to be forced onto the road at gunpoint anyway. Neil could easily play his bass parts for half a dozen gigs a year, & Stuart could still happily contribute in the studio, possibly from a sandbox. The ski mask trick was just laying the foundations for various cunning disguises. Re-watched the Belle and Sebastian bit on ALotOfIts Pooh & noticed the director had a fondness for taking Isobel from the rear - how very Sinister. Talking of which, many moons ago Michele claimed that our Miss Honey had penises on the brain. Which must be why everyone loves Paul for his mind :) Bye, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Tue Nov 23 19:46:31 1999 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 14:46:31 EST Subject: Sinister: Re: knitting challenges, enid blyton, owls and B&S Message-ID: <0.1cf06d56.256c4917@aol.com> Hello all and sundry! Last night I was in my attic, and all of a sudden, a bag fell on me. "What can this be?" I thought as I sat rubbing my head. I opened the bag, and out popped, not a mad creature, or even a poetry parrot, but, to my surprise, the entire St. Clares series by Enid Blyton. "Hello they said, you haven't read us since you were six, please read us." And the littlest one was crying, so I said, "All right, all right." and promised I'd read them all. And to my delight, they were all very nice. So tonight I might go up to the attic and see if anything else falls on me. Does anyone watch the "Famous Five" programmes on ITV? Apparently I look like George. I should never have got my hair cut. I've accepted Archel's challenge to knit. Yay! An incentive to finish it! I bought a fluffy cuddly toy owl. It has little red earmuffs and a tartan scarf. It's very nice to snuggle in bed with. Yesterday, in English, we had to deliver a talk, with only five minutes to prepare. So I got up and mumbled something about how amazing B&S were, and how the lyrics were dead profound, and got a real slagging afterwards. Still, I got a 1, so maybe my english teacher is a closet B&S fan. Also, I think the world would be a much nicer place if everyone owned at least one belle and sebastian or even gentle waves record, and played it twice daily. Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Tue Nov 23 21:05:38 1999 From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:05:38 PST Subject: Sinister: the construction of reality Message-ID: <19991123210538.32698.qmail@hotmail.com> Hmmm....I don't now but the past few days I write all the time to our beloved list.I think the room I spend most of my time is the computer room.What a life! I've been working in here since 4:30pm and I'm starving and I'm bored. I'm writing an essay on the construction of reality in the mass media.Cool,huh?...NO!I'M BORED! Any suggestions,anyone?DO WE HAVE A JOURNALIST IN THE CROWD,PLEASE? Anyways,blop,blop... Sometimes I read about things on the list that people have said and when I read previous messages I can't seem to find anything.Is there a chat or sth. or is it the fact that some of you people see each other? I was just wandering 'cause I'm a curious little girl!I wish I could enter a chat,but,that's how it works if you don't own a PC. To all the tape tree participants: Good luck and it'll be as funny as it sounds! Do you know how good the Stereophonics are for studying?I was reading on manufacture consent,screaming at the same time "i'm just looooooooooooooooooooooking,I'm not buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuying!",and still wasn't distracted.Hmm... OK!I can hear you all begging me to stop writing nonsense so I'll relief you from my presence.Until next time,BYE!BYE!HAPPY PEOPLE!(who's happy?) Zoe Blop Blop ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From i_love_moon at xxx.com Tue Nov 23 23:59:01 1999 From: i_love_moon at xxx.com (Johan Nilsson) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 00:59:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: equestrian sports References: <9911221617.AA42402188@hit945fm.com> Message-ID: <19991123234542.33870.qmail@hotmail.com> bonjour mes amies. my girl is into horsemanship, training horses to walk beautifully. i told my friend about it and he laughed and said that she probably has a horse-wip and that is good for the sexlife. does belle & sebastian like horses? or are they mocking judy for liking horses or does that song even have anything to do with horses? my impression is that they defend the girls who like horses and that i should do the same thing. i have no interest in horses, in fact, i have not even sat on a horse. i sat on a ponny once as a wee tod but that is a long time ago. horses smell awfully - actually i feel bad because i always make up excuses for not coming with her and meet her horse. i have done, he is big - big and scary. so when she asks if i wanna take a ride i just shake my head and say nothing. one sunday i agreed to come and see her compete. her suit gives me goosebumps, but it was still very random to be there. it is not like going to a football game. ok. i said some mean things about isobel and her music last time. i feel bad because i didn't really mean anything. i am sure isobel is a sweet and lovely person and i would probably faint if i saw her in real life. trashing her music doesn't make any situation any better, even though i don't like the gentle waves i think she can do wonders. "belle & sebastian, they bring all their equipment on the bus..." oh yeah yeah, that is an introduction to the lovely violent femmes, but wouldn't that fit belle & sebastian? maybe not. oh about animals, dogs. every time i hear tindersticks "bathtime" i think of belle & sebastian's "dog on wheels". i don't know why, but i think it has something to do with the rhythm, yeah that's it, the rhythm. *huggies* johan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 24 01:51:09 1999 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 01:51:09 BST Subject: Sinister: sigh! Message-ID: <2F44DFE45DE@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> aaaaah, i'm feeling loved. and i've been having one of those really lonely days when i've not really talked to anyone properly and knew that i couldn't do anything exciting because i've got growing piles of work to do.* but lo!!! i look in my inbox and i see proclamations of love for me, no matter that out of the thousand-odd of you out there one was from a gay bloke and one was from a girl, and no matter that i've never met any of you, it still made me smile:-) thats no reason to stop, mind, i've got a bit of an ian brown complex about being adored, and i won't give up until i've taken over the world. soon you will all be my slaves, put to work knitting scarves and cardigans for my twee army and rescuing injured bunny rabbits to be filmed for my 24hour tv channnel showing only pet rescue presented by isobel and her squirrel friends. (fee breaks out into manic laughter and has to have a cup of tea to calm down) phew!! nearly let you all in on my masterplan for world domination, must have forgotten to take my pills this morning. i did have some content of some kind to put in here but it escapes me for the moment, so i'll go back to my essay for a bit while i try to remember... ....no its still not come to me, but i can tell you lots about metphysical poetry and how not to cheer up a lonely lurker (hello tim:-)) i shall bid you all farewell for now and hope i don't get thrown in the nursery for posting such nonsense stay beautiful, fiona *this really is how i was feeling today, summed up by the man himself i want to go home i don't want to stay give up education as a bad mistake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From margarita at xxx.com Wed Nov 24 02:50:02 1999 From: margarita at xxx.com (triumphant loser) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 20:50:02 -0600 Subject: Sinister: get me away from here , im dying Message-ID: <001001bf3626$9b5417e0$464afacf@oemcomputer> It just hit me today that ignorant people make me tired.....you know like they suck the energy right out of you and use it for there own evil plans. I discovered this after a very very long and trying day of work.I know its just the nature of things for people to be different in the thinking/comprehension catagory.I just have to say .....ahhhhhhhhh, my brain it hurts! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com Wed Nov 24 09:53:45 1999 From: babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?BabyChris=20Crystalballs?=) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 01:53:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Agghhhh - Pavement!!!!! / b&s hotel group? Message-ID: <19991124095345.24378.rocketmail@web1406.mail.yahoo.com> I just heard this morning that pavement were splitting up. Apparently it was at the london gig, and steve m said that a pair of handcuffs represented what it was like to be in a band. And other stuff. That IS bad. But not as bad as it would be if b&s split. I didn't like the vibes that were coming off from the webchat. If stu d left it would suck. maybe he has to consider his big beat credibility. but seriously - I think that I would most likely end up in tears like those hoards of screaming take that fans did. It's just that b&s are, in my eyes, one of the few things in life that you CAN depend on. scarves too. I thought that they were a bit like a gang, you know. oh, well. It might never happen. (voice in head says "yes! - yes it will") oh yeah. I saw a giggarette lighter that my mum had the other day. It was from some hotel or other in england. It read "THE EIGHT BELLES". The hotel was somewhere in yorkshire, I think. I can find out for you all if anyone wants to stay there. Besides, I thought that there was only 1 bel, and seven drunken scottish layabouts (does anyone know what thier favourite tipple IS? My guess is Jack Daniels. I remember reading somewhere that Chris drank a JackD and coke at an interview.) Yeah, and I happen to love bel. she's my favourite - she sings so sweetly. And if anyone says otherwise WE CAN ARRANGE TO STEP OUTSIDE AND SETTLE THIS LIKE REAL MEN. HUH? ANY OFFERS? thought not. I spoke to lauren on instant messenger the otherday. I9t was fun. I was a bit stuck for words though, like stu and karn were when they met up. Our chat served to teach me this - THE AMERICANS HAVE VERY LITTLE OR NO KNOWLEDGE ABOUT SCOTTISH WORDs. It made it awkward when I had to explain the meaning of every second word. gotta go. bye Babychris CRYSTALBALLS __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From messentw at xxx.uk Wed Nov 24 10:46:58 1999 From: messentw at xxx.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?William=20Messent?=) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:46:58 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Willenium Fever Message-ID: <19991124104658.14190.rocketmail@web307.mail.yahoo.com> Ay up youths, Well I didn't manage to 'catch' the 'Tube' (do you see what I did there?). I only have normal telly so I had to make do with 'Compromising Situations' on Channel 5. Again. I was back in Nottingham because it was my birthday on Monday, and a very good time I had too thankyou. I drank in the bar at Carlton Police Station. If you want to send presents, please do so. Can you send presents by email? Or will it make my 'mailbox' overflow onto 'homepages'? I don't know much about this electronic business, though I heard it can give you cancer. I haven't voted for 'Gregory's Girl' yet but I will soon. My favorite film this year is 'Meet Joe Black'. The one about the big gorilla. I don't think I ever had a Belle & Sebastian related dream. I should really make a smutty comment about Isobel here but I don't actually know what she looks like. Is she fit? The only time I've seen the band on telly was when the two lads collected their Brit award, and frankly I thought they could have made more of an effort for such a big occasion. I'd have thought that they could have worn ties at least. A lot of Glasgow listees seem to bump into band members on a daily basis. I shall remember to loiter around Pizza Hut next time I'm up there. I once met ex-Notts County player John Chedozie on a golf course when I was a kid. I asked him for an autograph. 'Piss off son' came his reply. My car broke down on the motorway last Friday. £325 the bastard cost to fix. Not B&S related but I thought I'd mention it. Archel, thanks for your subtly corrupt recommendation of 'Midday Money'. I, unfortunately, am not a student, but I managed to catch it the other day and it did help, despite the best efforts of Richard and Judy. Is she fit? I see that there's a new Will in town. That's OK though, the more the merrier. I shall now refer to myself as The Artist Formerly Known As Will. Or I'll just use my Sunday name. Briefly touching on the Y2K theme, a friend of mine works for British Airways, and he tells me that they have rented Slough Ice Stadium for New Year's Eve to use as a makeshift morgue in case it all goes shit-shaped. Eek! Of course, he could be winding me up. In the meantime I'm off to read a book about masculinity in films by Laura Mulvey. Is she fit? Love William x ===== Visit The Remote Viewer homepage http://www.members.tripod.com/remoteviewer/ ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From francis69soul at xxx.com Wed Nov 24 10:48:35 1999 From: francis69soul at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?kevin=20parker?=) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 02:48:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Pavement Message-ID: <19991124104835.23285.rocketmail@web1304.mail.yahoo.com> Just a few words to say I saw Pavement on Saturday and they were absolutey wonderful genuinely fantastic fairy lights handcuffs and all, and now they have decided to split up.I am so sorry aS THEY REALLY ASEEMED TO BE COMING OF AGE bRIXTON aCADEMY WAS SOLD OUT TEEMING WITH PEOPLE AND IT WAS ONE OF THE BEST SHOWS i HAVE SEEN WORTH FLYING FROM tOKYO FOR , well i am here on holiday! this computer has a caps lock that thinks independently which is all a bit Phillip K Dick. Love to you all Kevin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed Nov 24 10:56:05 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:56:05 -0000 Subject: Sinister: 2nd time lucky... Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22A2DFB9@SERVER1> Sorry to abuse the list like this, but to avoid confusion... The next TIGERMILKING, Upstairs at the Garage, London will now be taking place on Friday 7th January, NOT 3rd December as provisionally announced before. The Mean Fiddler lived up to their name and double booked us. We suggested having a scrap for it, but they wouldn't budge. So, sadly, the 7th January is the next free night, so if you're in or around London, please come along and have a moderate-to-good time with all your favourite Sinisterines. I'll try and set up a website flyer type thing sometime soon, but in the meantime, remember, this is a club for the Sinister massive - be there or be in Gay Dad (sorry Erica :-)) I saw The Tube the other night, and although I bopped along smiling cheesily to Middle Distance Runner, I wouldn't say it's must-see TV. The band were great, the new ending was a big improvement, but it wasn't surprising, and the song sounded, unsurprisingly, a tiny bit weedy on a quiet telly screen. Isobel's hair looked nice, and Stuart David is undoubtedly the cover star of the next Acid Jazz album, though he does pull off that none-more-cool look with much more aplomb than he should. Smelling of wee, and all. :-) My wrist hurts. God, I wish I hadn't written that. It was the wallpaper scraping, honest :-) Sticking two fingers in the air, Biondino xxx ******************************************************************* The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e mail; please notify us by telephone on 0171 224 1717, and delete the e mail from your computer. 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WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From W.M.Hayes at xxx.uk Wed Nov 24 12:15:09 1999 From: W.M.Hayes at xxx.uk (william hayes) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:15:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Pavement, NOOO!! Message-ID: <2847872080.943445709@HA-2E035-PC.herts.ac.uk> Pavement can't split up, I haven't seen them play live enough times yet! I hope B&S remain strong, I haven't seen them play live ever! Hi Will, I take it I'm the other Will causing you're identity crisis, I could call myself 'ð' or something if you like :-) BabyChris; there is a pub in Old Hatfield called the Eight Belles, although it might actually be the Eight Bells, not sure, but someone famous stayed there a long time ago or something. It does very good real ale and if you beer is off they give you your money back and a fresh drink! If more of you like Zoe are wondering, there is a sinister chat room on Undernet called 'sinister', so there you go. I too, like Johan, am scared of horses. My brother's wife rides a horse called Brandy and he is big and scary, and they get in the way of my car when I want to zip through the winding country lanes at home, it spoils the fun and I'm just waiting for the day when I go aropund a corner and find a horse sitting on my bonnet, they pay no road tax and can easily go through fields instead of roads, it's better for their hooves, and cars don't shit on the road. Anyway... My brother lives in a small village outside Nottingham, it's called Gotham, which I think is cool but the locals pronounce it Goatam. I'd be proud to say I come from Gotham city/village if I were them. I'm waiting for the GSYBE LP I've ordered to arrive at my local Vinyl emporium, ooh I'm tingling with anticipat...ion. I'm also a bit annoyed that the new Beck LP is not out yet. It's been out on CD for ages and it doesn't arrive on vinyl until December, what's that all about? Well that's quite enough from me, bye bye everybody! Will St Albans +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Wed Nov 24 11:59:20 1999 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:59:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Hot buttered crumpets Message-ID: <80256833.0041DF0C.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> Just saw this and thought it might be of interest. Long time Sinsisterine Isaac Hayes makes the bill! Huzzah. So do Mogwai! Hayawn. Nick xx MOGWAI PICK PARTY PEOPLE Mogwai Fear Symposium MOGWAI will headline and help choose the line-up of the rescheduled All Tomorrow's Parties festival, which will now take place at Camber Sands holiday camp from April 7-9. The band have earmarked acts as diverse as Digital Hardcore's Bomb 20, funk/soul legend Isaac Hayes and Steve Albini's Shellac to play the festival - the follow-up to the Belle & Sebastian-organised Bowlie Weekender held last spring. Promoters Foundation originally planned to stage All Tomorrow's Parties in September but pulled the plug after poor ticket sales. Stereolab, Tindersticks and Tortoise were originally due to play. Foundation boss Barry Hogan told NME: "We're hoping the majority of the bill from September should be available for next year's event. However, there may be those who will be unable to play due to recording or other touring commitments. "This is where Mogwai will add their own spin on the event. They've given us a list of over 70 bands they'd like us to approach and there are some very interesting names on it." Mogwai frontman Stuart Braithwaite said: "Bowlie was refreshing because half the bands weren't there because of greedhead agents foisting their half-arsed cack soon-to-be-has-been shite bands upon those who dare to get up before six o'clock. This event was clearly something that was close to the organisers' hearts, as shall ours. "If all goes to plan then some of the best bands and musicians in the world shall be playing Camber Sands next April. And there's a beach. And a swimming pool. And Symposium won't be playing. Religious miracles will occur." All tickets bought for September's All Tomorrow's Parties are still valid and more are now on sale at £90, subject to booking fee. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dunca_chap at xxx.com Wed Nov 24 12:45:46 1999 From: dunca_chap at xxx.com (Adam Chapman) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:45:46 GMT Subject: Sinister: From the sundries. Message-ID: <19991124124546.21229.qmail@hotmail.com> Well hello ther list. So much for the 'Will' explosion, it seems my manopoly of being Adam has gone west equally rapily, though i seem to be the only one to use a capital at the beginning. I write sat on a listing swivel chair in the wonderfully airy [for which read drafty], computer basement of uea, its missing a castor and has already spread oil all over my hands and thence over the desk in front of me... fortunately no one has noticed so engrossed are they in their 'studies' but i'm not about to hang around for them to do so, hence the remainder of this will be [mercifully], brief. Not had any Belle and Sebastian dreams, guess i don't really have a firm enough image of them in my head, though i do have the odd one about the girl who introduced me to the joys of coffee, not as the subject, just as a character which is nice i suppose, though i haven't told her yet - i'm not sure how she'd react, best keep it to myself. That and recurring nightmare about being run over is all, not that ihave been you understand, its just the fear i have which causes me to cross roads like a startled cat causing much amusement to friends and family... twas rather pointless twas that, Adam[big A] ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 24 12:51:00 1999 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetryplace2) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:51:00 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Supeflu Guy Message-ID: <01bf367a$8ef823c0$046b9ac2@g5-200-3> because I don't pay proper attention I can't remember whether the conundrum wrapped in an enigma shrouded in mystery that is the song "Landslide" was ever cleared up. Namely, was the song that Isobel sang at Bowlie, backed by The Maisonettes, with Struan failing to play his sax, an original or a cover version? I mention it because I was round my speshul fwend's house last night, looking after her cos she's poorly, and she had a print out of a Northern Soul poll of the favourite records of people who attended the Wigan Casino in 1978. And at number 18 was a song called "Landslide" by some bloke whose name escapes me. Have the Sinister Northern Soul congnoscenti heard this track? And can I have a tape? There's a lot of illness going round at the moment, and because I was sick last week I spent quite a lot of time watching daytime tv, and got quite engrossed in the indoor bowls, direct from P!R!E!S!T!O!N! Guildhall. It's getting quite rock and roll these days, bowls. The audience was full of dead hard lads with klaxons and drums and bagpipes and there were mexican waves and terrace chants and stuff. There was even a streaker! However, I missed the final, so if there are any fellow bowls enthusiasts out there who know the result, I would be very grateful if you would share it with me. I hope it was the Aussie charmer Ian Shuback, in his last appearance before he retires. I've tried looking on the winky wanky web, to no avail. But I did find something of interest, however because on nme.com I came across the news that mogwai are going to be choosing bands for the re-scheduled ATP festival. Post-rock muppet Struan Braithwaite burbles in a scatological vein, thusly: "Bowlie was refreshing because half the bands weren't there because of greedhead agents foisting their half-arsed cack soon-to-be-has-been shite bands upon those who dare to get up before six o'clock. This event was clearly something that was close to the organisers' hearts, as shall ours." And that's not all because on the same website I came across the following snippet: http://www.nme.com/crispianmail.html . It's good to see Mr Mills realising the power of the superweb chocolate cyberhighway, and I'm sure Sinister folk will be only too happy to share their thoughts with him. I haven't mailed him yet because I've been too busy trying to decide what the greatest film of the century is. I think it's a toss-up between the film version of "Please, Sir" and Ferdinand Leger's "Ballet Mecanique". It certainly isn't "Gregory's Girl" because as Will will undoubtedly find when he finishes his Laura Mulvey book, it's one long hymn to patriarchal scopophilia and the fetishising qualities of The Male Gaze. Will also mentioned meeting a Notts County player when he was a nipper, which got me reminiscing because when the mighty Stevenage Colts won the Herts Minor League 5-aside tournament in 1980, I was presented with my winner's medal by Luther Blissett. This was before he became an Italian anarchist hero, mind. love Stevie Troussé xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Wed Nov 24 13:44:55 1999 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:44:55 +0000 Subject: Subject: Sinister: Supeflu Guy Message-ID: <80256833.004B9871.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> >I don't pay proper attention I can't remember whether the conundrum wrapped >in an enigma shrouded in mystery that is the song "Landslide" was ever >cleared up. Namely, was the song that Isobel sang at Bowlie, backed by The >Maisonettes, with Struan failing to play his sax, an original or a cover >version? I say Landslide is an original. Why? 1. The band don't tend to do more than one cover version in a show. And if they hear them claiming to have written 'The Kids Are Alright' then I'll eat my hat. Ha ha I have no hat - fooled you. Does anyone have a hat? 2. More importantly, the title was mentioned back in February as one of the tracks on the new LP (only about 18 months before its now projected release date blah blah) and you'd expect them to mention if would have mentioned if it was a cover. See: http://www.mail-archive.com/sinister at majordomo.net/1999-month-02/msg00192.html 3. Surely Tag, late of this parish, would have told us about it. 4. The trouble is, it tastes too good! Nick xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Wed Nov 24 14:02:38 1999 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:02:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Last time today I pwomise Message-ID: <80256833.004D4401.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> 5. I can't see the WIgan Casino going for it anyway. It's more girl group pop than Northern Soul. Or maybe that's just Isobel's influence. n. xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com Wed Nov 24 14:40:27 1999 From: babychriscrystalballs at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?BabyChris=20Crystalballs?=) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 06:40:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: oops - sorry I had to mail again, but... Message-ID: <19991124144027.10065.rocketmail@web1403.mail.yahoo.com> The smashing pumpkins did a song called landslide. It was acoustic, and actually quite nice. just billy corgan and a guitar. could his voice BE anymore high piched? Also, I'm having a severe nevous breakdown right now. This charity thing that I'm doing has severly backfired. some fag-ass from another school tried to orgainse a gig at his school for this friday, but didn't realise that telling us on monday was short notice. and we have only sold about 60 tickets so far. the band (who are apparently signed to virgin) are costing us £300, and we have been told that if we don't break even, then we'll have to pay the difference ourselves. shit. tickets are only £3. I think that's a bargain. does anyone on sinister have a means of solving my problem? people of glasgow - buytickets. pweeze. pwetty pweeze. gotta go. mail me. babychris CRYSTALBALLS __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Wed Nov 24 14:59:07 1999 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:59:07 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Lets Get Oral Message-ID: <199911240959_MC2-8E6A-8077@compuserve.com> Hi All, Sorry to be back in your box so quickly* but I'm just answering my own question, really. STuart "Mr Polymath" David does indeed appear in the Oral compilation, alongside others like Aidan Moffat, Nick Cave, Jarvis, PJ Harvey & even Roy Harper & Joe Strummer for the oldies amongst us. If your fandom doesn't run to forking out £6.99 for 5 pages of our STu, then a lurking browse in the bookshop should do it in reasonable time. Mr D continues to impress with yet another finely penned romantic tale, this time in Rahmenerzahlung form. (Apologies, can't do umlauts). Marketing ploy, publishing such a book for the normally just record-buying public shortly before Christmas? Who knows, but there's probably more quality there if I dig around a bit more. Regards, * I think there's supposed to be another "in" in there somewhere The Painting Ptarmigan Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Nov 24 17:53:28 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 18:53:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Landslide of Information Message-ID: <01bf36a4$d05dae00$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Good morning little schoolgirls; VARIOUS - JUST KEEP ON DANCING - CHESS NORTHERN SOUL (CDKEND 138) Track number 10: LANDSLIDE - TONY "Kipper" CLARKE (P) 1967 Chess 1979. Prod Davis and Caston under supervision of Billy Davis. According to the sleeve notes, it "epitomises the sound of black America that we love" and is "an all-time Northern Soul favourite". Trousers, give your bird a bell and see if this is the one she was rabbitting on about. Well done on that 5-a-side victory, by the way. Did you get your photo in the local paper with Luther Blisset? Of course you can have a tape. I'm going to send Big Kev and Big Dave's tapes this week. You just wait and see. I am friends with Isaac Hayes, and no way is he playing Bowlie. You must think I was born yesterday. As for the Tube, if it's any consolation, I'm sure if I got it on video, I'd watch the whole thing too. You never know. I listened to Modern Rock Song instead. It's good when the strings swell up. Slow Grafitti is an Ain't No Mountain High Enough for the Bowlie Generation. I hope B&S are going to produce a commemorative mug when Stuart D finally gets round to leaving, if he ever does. I'm looking forward to Victory Chimp. I hope it's about a monkey making a name for himself in the world of professional boxing. I suppose pop stars make a change from Oxbridge toffs. I hope Sting's new cookbook serves as inspiration for Staurt Murdoch to produce a collection of his favourite "do you like broccoli?" recipes. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinister's a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sadandsentimental at xxx.com Wed Nov 24 19:29:12 1999 From: sadandsentimental at xxx.com (Curtis Heath) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:29:12 -0600 Subject: Sinister: (No Subject) Message-ID: When I was a child, I used to have a recurring dream. It wasn't so much of a dream as a feeling. There was something in front of me... infinitely far away, but almost touching my eyes at the same time. It was microscopic, yet so big and all-encompassing that it was behind me too. The weird part is, I could always tell I was going to have the dream before I went to bed. There was a certain feeling that came over me. I haven't had the dream since I was a kid. Recently a friend start describing a dream he had as a child about a giant/tiny curtain that was held right in front of his eyes... but was too far away to touch at the same time... Strange... I always thought I was just a bit crazy. So... Do any of you Sinisterines have this dream? Is there a conspiracy. Did the Government give our mothers mind-altering substances while we were in the womb? Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://my.lycos.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinister's a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From robhalcrow at xxx.net Wed Nov 24 19:35:35 1999 From: robhalcrow at xxx.net (robhalcrow at xxx.net) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:35:35 GMT Subject: Sinister: Come on without, Come on within... Message-ID: <199911241935.TAA17024@shaggy.lineone.net> We-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-lllll ( in the style of Red Alert's Lulu), Like Mark C my wrist hurts but this is cos today I wrote a song on the acoustic guitar and it's hard for me to play, being a big clumsy bass player 'n' all. Can I be the first to apply for the perhaps non-existent bass place in B&S? I've got my own gear, I've even got some spare strings somewhere. I could grow a beard, write a book. I've got relations in Glasgow. Oh go on. People have been on about B&S dreams... I had one the other day. Only Mick was in it. We all had to write essays and submit them (Mick insisted he'd read them all) before being allowed to join the band in some swish hotel. They were throwing a party (very civilized, mind) which I had to leave temporarily. When I returned almost everyone had left. Seems it wasn't all the fans had hoped for after all. A moral, perhaps. A couple of days later I dreamt I was filling in a questionnaire for the 3 ex-Kenickie girls (Married? No. Favourite Disney film? Ummmm......). The spooky thing is that the next Saturday, who did I see on the train to Sunderland? Only Marie Du Santiago, ex Kenickie, now Rosita. Weirderama etc. Someone mentioned Daniel Johnston. Did he do a song called "Dream Scream"? I taped it off John Peel's Festive 50 last year. I like it. It's mad. Sounds like it was recorded in a piano testing warehouse, if such things exist. For the record I neither love nor despise Isobel. Or any of B&S. I don't know any of them but I'd like to think they're polite, delightful, clean young people. Surely these weewee rumours are a vacuous fiction........ Yours Rob...................not thinking of anything clever to put at the end of emails since 1736............... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinister's a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bellezc at xxx.com Wed Nov 24 19:49:02 1999 From: bellezc at xxx.com (zoe charaktinou) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:49:02 PST Subject: Sinister: TELL ME! Message-ID: <19991124194902.48615.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi! OK.For people like me who haven't been that long on the list and come from another country or plain and simple for people as ignorant as me; WHAT IS/WAS THE BOWLIE? Thanks,Zoe ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinister's a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david1822 at xxx.com Wed Nov 24 21:27:00 1999 From: david1822 at xxx.com (David Strange Strange) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:27:00 PST Subject: Sinister: Crimestoppers B&S style Message-ID: <943478820.3414.335@excite.com> Hello again fellow sinistereenies and sinistereenios, This is my second post since I graduated from the nursery in the space of 4 days. It's like when you first go out with someone and you are constantly having sex . But I'm sure this will be my last post for a while. Just watched Gregory's Girl I love that film it remided me of school football jumpers as goalposts etc. I used to love playing football or any games outside in winter at school (except rugby, I'm to small) because when you go back inside to get changed you're hands are to cold to do up the buttons on your shirt and you have to put them on radiators for five minutes to warm them up, lovely. And when it rains and you get to watch Neighbours in a classroom or watch a video from the storeroom. (nostalgia beautiful) Here's a small request for Archel could she knit me a scarf as I don't have one and I'm going to Paris for Christmas and I get the feeling it's going to be cold, I also need to buy some jumpers because all I have are T-shirts and no jumpers!!! Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Right some B&S content, a few weeks ago I organised a picnic in order to gauge the interest in B&S in my local area (Dorking, Reigate, Redhill etc.). Anyway the week before I designed a little flyer that I put up in Heaven Sent Records in Guildford. No-one turned up for the picnic which really upset me , and on the Monday I went to collect my flyer from the record because it was really lovely (it has a bus on it driving up a hill) I'd coloured it in and everything, and to my horror it had gone someone had nicked it. So I'm appealing if anyone has my poster could the please give it back, mail me privately if you have it or if you are a B&S fan who lives near Dorking and we could meet up. Theres a moral to this little story never hang posters in Guildford Record Shops. Sleep soundly and don't have nightmares DAVID XXX 'as if each speech is an arrangement of notes that will never be played again' ________________________________________________________________ Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinister's a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinefox at xxx.com Wed Nov 24 21:38:02 1999 From: pinefox at xxx.com (P F) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:38:02 GMT Subject: Sinister: because, because, because, because Message-ID: <19991124213802.72769.qmail@hotmail.com> 1. because i do not hope to turn again because i do not hope because i do not hope to turn That's just my tribute to a couple of noted poetry figures. 2. Goatham: doesn't George Bush claim to be from there? Or it might be Bill Clinton. I'm talking distant origins, not instant gratifications. 3. 'The construction of reality' is a term to be careful of. It all depends what you mean 'by', as they say, so I'm told. But for a pretty extreme take, try chapter one of Dick Rorty's 'Contingency, Irony and Solidarity' (Cambridge: Cambridge UP, 1989). If I'm not mistaken, it begins with a sentence like 'About two centuries ago, the idea that truth was something made rather than found began to take hold in Europe'. (I'll award myself a cash prize if I've got that right, miles away from my copy.) 5. 'On Camber Sands I can connect Nothing with nothing. The broken fingernails of dirty hands.' That kind of thing. I wouldn't know, I've never been. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinister's a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Wed Nov 24 22:11:38 1999 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:11:38 EST Subject: Sinister: Golly gosh, isn't it smashing! Message-ID: <0.eedaaeea.256dbc9a@aol.com> Hello dear twee people who I want to hug, Sorry, about the title, but i'm still in Enid Blyton mode from my discovery the other day. Today my Looper album arrived in the post. I was supposed to get a nice tigermilk poster, but that never came, so I'm going to go and burn down the jeepster place. Or maybe I won't. It's a very good album, but it's all talking. So I suppose it's good if you like to hear StuartD reading kind of nonsensical bed-time stories for weirdos to a background of beeps and funny noises. I like it though. And it made my happy to see it come through the post this morning. Me and my friend are taking up running. We were going to take up Rugby, but my friend's a little delicate, and I don't like hurting people too much. Like the guy out of Catcher In thr Rye. I'm not too bothered about getting beat up, but I hate hitting other people, because of the way they look at you. All the cool girls sit in the library now, so I don't have anywhere to hide/read/sleep when i'm dogging school choir or all my friends are off doing engaging things like being in the school show, or joing to the art club or snogging boys behind the RE block. Why does the song "belle and sebastian" always make my grin like a maniac? Really, it's like I have a mental catch when I hear the little glittery bits before the chorus. It just occured to me that, if the Tube's on normal TV at 1.00 am, I could put my clock back an hour, and pretend that I'm seeing in the millenium with Belle and Sebastian. But someone will probably force me to go to a party of something. I'm going to wear a pair of fairy wings though. I got a new headscarf today. It's white and purple. Is anyone going to see Ooberman in G2 on nov. 30th? Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinister's a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From margarita at xxx.com Wed Nov 24 23:45:11 1999 From: margarita at xxx.com (triumphant loser) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:45:11 -0600 Subject: Sinister: smashed between the eyes Message-ID: <001401bf36d5$f3390ec0$534afacf@oemcomputer> I was casualy flipping through the tele channels and i came across M2 .....that other devil channel. Much to my amazment/horror i saw a belle and sabastian vid, it was just like watching your pet dog get run over by a truck while the neighboors all watched(i swear i'll be sick for a week)This most unhappy event reminds me of a song......."BPI,MTV,BBC....please them! please them! (sadly this was your life) but you could have said no if you'd wanted to, you could have walked away....couldn't you?" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinister's a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nelle at xxx.se Wed Nov 24 23:31:35 1999 From: nelle at xxx.se (Ellen Jernström) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 01:31:35 +0200 Subject: Sinister: anyone who had a heart Message-ID: <383C753D.85E@hem.passagen.se> late. eyes tired. lips sore. hair fluffy. heart full. jenowl mensioned the looper lp, and the talking, which made me quite surprised at first too, since it was not what i'd expected, but i grew to like it. very much. a challenge, actually, since you have to really listen to what he's saying. perfect for walkmans ( or is it walk-men? ; ) and long walks. i love the brown children in "the treehouse" - saying "tree-ouse". always makes me smile. contact lenses off. glasses on. i tend to make the same mistake - i remove my lenses before finding my glasses. that way i can be sure to spend at least ten minutes fumbling around my room, half-blind, trying to find them. very clever indeed. listening to "the love songs of burt bacharach". tom jones sings "what new, pussycat?" lovely. i went to vote today. it took me a while, but i've found my special sinister friend now. =) i've had a week off from work. i'm going back tomorrow, though. it'll be good for me, i won't have so much time thinking and worrying about boys with irish accents wearing orange billabong t-shirts having ears sore from crash-helmets. oh, yes. back to life - back to reality. just like me, they want to be..close to you /ellen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinister's a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From littlearsonist at xxx.com Thu Nov 25 08:13:07 1999 From: littlearsonist at xxx.com (marie elia) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 00:13:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: i just can't convince her that i'm socialist. Message-ID: <19991125081307.14720.rocketmail@web124.yahoomail.com> darlings -- firstly, mad props to "P F" for putting t.s. eliot in a post. secondly, maddest props to honey for the "sinister is freaky" addition to the footer. one time i referred to honey in conversation to a friend of mine. "who is honey?" she asked. i looked at her and said simply, "our mummy." oh dear. fun explaining that one. i must say this stuD talk is bothering me quite a bit. all this talk of him leaving, and of him writing songs like "paper boat" as a little dig at b&s. because see, i Love winter wooskie, and i'd hate to think it's a joke only. also, who's afraid of Y2K. but then again, looper played that song this summer, so i guess it's a looper song. and damnit i Do like looper. but tonight i was driving home and paper boat came on my tape, and i got an icky feeling. ugh. oh, weird happenings: i got in my car today, and i had previously been listening to TBWTAS (the song), and so when i got in the car and the stereo came on i was not surprised to hear it. then i realized it was the Radio. as soon as the song finished, i popped in my tape, and sure enough, more TBWTAS. freaky. and tonight a fox ran across the road in front of my car. but i did not hit it. whew. i HATE thanksgiving. it's a stupid holiday involving sickening amounts of food and glorifying imperial conquest. ick. but i baked a casserole anyway. while listening to hefner, actually. ha. lovins to all of you kids. xoxo, marie ===== ******************************************************* "I was a proper snob in college, as only a future lifetime English major can be" - b. glass "to me she was just marie." -mersault ******************************************************* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinister's a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paul__22 at xxx.com Thu Nov 25 11:10:59 1999 From: paul__22 at xxx.com (paul cains) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 03:10:59 PST Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk Message-ID: <19991125111059.23049.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi everyone, just thought I'd let you know that hidden away in the bottom left hand corner of the for sale section in this weeks N.M.E classifieds is an oringinal copy of tigermilk. Thats all folk's, love, Paul. XX ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinister's a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jordi-tv at xxx.com Thu Nov 25 10:03:38 1999 From: jordi-tv at xxx.com (Jordi Trenzano i Vilar) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 11:03:38 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Twee F.C. Message-ID: <19991125130338.HM.00000000001rgg0@mixmail.com> I�m thinking to ask to a sport radio show to play "The stars of track & field", as they�ve been asking people to send requests for songs that can be related to sports in any way. Does everyone thinks that it�s suitable ? it�s my decision to get into this world of cash and Ricky Martin songs and try to make them discover the importance of being twee (I still don�t know what it means). And i�ll start the Twee F.C. too. I�m still deeply touched by something that I saw last friday. The lovely record label Elefant Records was having a party to celebrate their 10th anniversary, and Marine Research were playing at the end. What happened is that the first band (Their name is "La Casa Azul", even though they only are one guy) improvised a cover of Heavenly�s "Atta girl", along with the guitar player of another band. I turned back and I noticed that Amelia was really enjoying it, but later I had the sad sight of Cathy in tears. I know that things like that are expectable, but when you see them just behind you tehy�re really different. Maybe it caused that later, the gig became of the bests that I�ve seen since my visit at Bowlie. So, there was only one song at that TV show. Even though I think that "Loneliness..." is great, maybe it would be a bit disappointing waiting for two or three hours and then hearing them play a song that has been played live over the last two years. But it will also mean that we�ll have it on EP, which is nice. I�m finishing now. Oh, a final request: does anyone have a copy in video of the documentary "Life of Python" ? You�ll see, I don�t know if it�s exactly a documentary, but the fact is that over the last two months a digital TV has been showing "The flying circus" and I�ve become a big Pythons fan, even though they had a nasty sketch about the scots (The one about the "poet" Ewan McTeagle). If anyone has it, mail me privately (at my other adress, jordi at belleandsebastian.org ) if any you think you�re able to make me a copy. Thanks a lot in advance and my excuses to mummy ================================================== Jordiet Sinistre ================================================== Tu E-Mail Gratis en http://www.mixmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinister's a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Thu Nov 25 13:57:25 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 05:57:25 PST Subject: Sinister: he's special (stuD) Message-ID: <19991125135725.99378.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello, When was this Stuart David webchat thingy? Was the time of it not posted anywhere,or was it a spur of the moment thing that you're just suppose to have stumbled upon it by chance? I need to know these things! It wouldn't be right if Stuart David left the band.I would be very very sad..I'd probably cry.And I'm not trying to be funny.Stuart David is my one of my favourite little guys and it would just be weird.He's strange and soft-spoken and everyone says he smells of wee but that's all part of the unique charm!! I finished Nalda Said...it does keep you wanting to read more and more,but I got angry with the character and the ending. It's good of course...but just kind of depressing and sad.I'm glad the story had nothing to do with pop music-- it's not like Stuart David can't talk about anything else.But it's true..some parts did almost seem like a Belle&Sebastian song...the relationship in the story was very refreshing..sweet and innocent. Oh yeah..this is like,really old for most of you,but The Acid House finally came over here.Now that is one twisted,messed up movie!And there was always some poor guy being kicked in the gut on the floor.The baby in the last story seriously creeped me out...but it was nice to hear B&S's 'Slow Graffitti' (i always misspell that)The song fit the part really well..it almost seems like they wrote that part just for the song.Johnny's wife in that movie made me want to throw things at her,ultra-skank. I saw Hefner last night and it was quite the experience.It was a 19+ gig and I nervously smoked cigarettes (and i'm not a smoker) in a dark corner,trying to stay hidden..and they didn't card me! What a RUSH of power I felt,let me tell you.I tricked the system.Ha!I've never gone to a gig at a club/bar like that before..and wow...the difference! Everyone's so cool..and it's all cosy and intimate..it was fantastic...you can walk right up to the stage,not worrying about getting elbows in your ribs,or smashed in the face.Darren looks and acts a lot different from what I pictured in real life.I have a newfound appreciation for John and Antony though.(Oh yes yes.)I like when John does little wiggly dances.There's something about bassists,oh yes.I bet they think I'm a real geek though..I'm awful with conversations,but they were very nice. I'm still jittery! take care, genevieve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinister's a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dee at xxx.ie Thu Nov 25 14:22:15 1999 From: dee at xxx.ie (Denise Power) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 14:22:15 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: hello music lovers, this is Thomas Pancake. Message-ID: folks, I've started employment the not so delicate tones of the Dandy warhols to accompany myself on my walkman on our excruciating morning travels. My Stereolab tape is now sitting at home, crying , because of the cruel and abrupt way I dumped it. I just got kind of sick of it, you know. I felt like I was constantly in some crazy sort of mobile Co-op of something. Anyway. I've gotten myself into a right mess, in thinking that vunerable little me could ever even dare to initiate mind games. Of course, my bloated head, upon thinking it could cope with such a complex upper hand syndrone has now gone and walked into itself into a big black hole with no way out. This wasn't what I wanted at all. I know I've suffered from a terrible case of mixed metaphors. But oh hell, damn, zounds etc. Maybe something nice will happen and it'will all be alright. I have mean friends. Whenever I get stressed, they start to say in a patronising way ; dee had a stroke a the age of 24, it could have been a brilliant career. I'm not even remotely near 24 yet. And whenever I do anything strange, they say, "dee was into s&m and bible studies, not everyone's cup of tea she would admit to me.", such as the time I voluntarily wore the big illuminous yellow services coat, (it;s as big as a tent.) I hate having a name that rhymes with he/she. Lots of musical jibes can be made my way. Oh slight plug. Button Moon : a club in Dublin (the newest one) - will play Belle and SEbastian if a> you ask nicely. b> you bring it along yourself. well tata. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinister's a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jayhol3 at xxx.com Thu Nov 25 15:34:21 1999 From: jayhol3 at xxx.com (Jamie Holman) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 07:34:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: single launch. Message-ID: <19991125153421.1360.rocketmail@web705.mail.yahoo.com> The Smith garrett Band will be having their second single launch on Monday the 29th at the tattybogle club in soho London.....this gig gives you a rare glimpse of the mighty tompaulin and dj s play hefnerbellesfilmsoundtracks etc. better than a cold picnic on dogshit grass anyday of the week. ;) see you there ! Mick Travis. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinister's a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jayhol3 at xxx.com Thu Nov 25 15:35:06 1999 From: jayhol3 at xxx.com (Jamie Holman) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 07:35:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: single launch. Message-ID: <19991125153506.1451.rocketmail@web705.mail.yahoo.com> The Smith garrett Band will be having their second single launch on Monday the 29th at the tattybogle club in soho London.....this gig gives you a rare glimpse of the mighty tompaulin and dj s play hefnerbellesfilmsoundtracks etc. better than a cold picnic on dogshit grass anyday of the week. ;) see you there ! Mick Travis. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinister's a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jayhol3 at xxx.com Thu Nov 25 15:35:40 1999 From: jayhol3 at xxx.com (Jamie Holman) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 07:35:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: single launch. Message-ID: <19991125153540.9159.rocketmail@web703.mail.yahoo.com> The Smith garrett Band will be having their second single launch on Monday the 29th at the tattybogle club in soho London.....this gig gives you a rare glimpse of the mighty tompaulin and dj s play hefnerbellesfilmsoundtracks etc. better than a cold picnic on dogshit grass anyday of the week. ;) see you there ! Mick Travis. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinister's a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jayhol3 at xxx.com Thu Nov 25 15:36:03 1999 From: jayhol3 at xxx.com (Jamie Holman) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 07:36:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: single launch. Message-ID: <19991125153603.10062.rocketmail@web701.mail.yahoo.com> The Smith garrett Band will be having their second single launch on Monday the 29th at the tattybogle club in soho London.....this gig gives you a rare glimpse of the mighty tompaulin and dj s play hefnerbellesfilmsoundtracks etc. better than a cold picnic on dogshit grass anyday of the week. ;) see you there ! Mick Travis. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinister's a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jayhol3 at xxx.com Thu Nov 25 15:36:37 1999 From: jayhol3 at xxx.com (Jamie Holman) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 07:36:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: single launch. Message-ID: <19991125153637.1753.rocketmail@web705.mail.yahoo.com> The Smith garrett Band will be having their second single launch on Monday the 29th at the tattybogle club in soho London.....this gig gives you a rare glimpse of the mighty tompaulin and dj s play hefnerbellesfilmsoundtracks etc. better than a cold picnic on dogshit grass anyday of the week. ;) see you there ! Mick Travis. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinister's a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jayhol3 at xxx.com Thu Nov 25 15:59:32 1999 From: jayhol3 at xxx.com (Jamie Holman) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 07:59:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19991125155933.21755.rocketmail@web704.mail.yahoo.com> 5 Times is a broken pc sorry...its not list abuse its passion for bands, if you want real list abuse check the archives. Mick Travis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 25 16:00:53 1999 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:00:53 BST Subject: Sinister: i'd like to thank... Message-ID: <31A7505135D@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> ...my mum, my dad, all my relatives across the world, my pet cat, my director, my producer, and all the people who worked on this project to make it a success. i'd like to thank the Lord above, but most of all i'd like to thank the person who voted for me as their list crush!!!! imagine my surprise, from nowhere to 123rd or indeed 62nd= my hard work now all seems worth while. i just wish that i could back it up with a post that was relevant or interesting, but why break the habit of a lifetime? oh, i know, i saw someone in the street today who bore a pasing resemblence to struan, almost makes wish i lived in glasgow; where people don't just look like, they are. have you ever had one of those days where you go out and go about your business, and come back and realise you haven't had a proper conversation with anyone all day, despite seeing hundreds of people all around you? i've been having those quite a lot lately and its beginning to worry me. i'll arrive at home and wonder if i still posess the ability to speak, which of course i do, but i'd prefer to be certain of that. hmm, i think this is a problem that 'talking' to you crazy kids isn't going to solve. nevermind, eh? keep the adoration coming, there's jaffa cakes in it for you, fiona ~~~~when you must, you can~~~~ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Thu Nov 25 16:27:35 1999 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 08:27:35 PST Subject: Sinister: Ribbed and Veined Message-ID: <19991125162735.19954.qmail@hotmail.com> I'm going to see the Poetry Cafe in less than a month. I've heard Tina Turner's hips described as 'poetry'. Of course, Jewel's also released a book of poetry that would be hard-pressed to be described as such. So I don't know what to expect. Should I wear a hat? I own a cowboy hat now. Texas will do this to you. You buy a hat, and like the alien that was SpiderMan's old costume, it grows shoots straight into your skull and eats your brain, replacing it with its own, devious personality. Sort of like Isobel's Tiger ears. Those ears are a sinister alien life form. Sometimes it seems those ears ate every part of her brain that wasn't cute, and are now manipulating her vegetable-state body like a marionette. Whoever here gave her those ears, go off and see a minister, you hear? One listen through that Genital Wavers album almost gave me diabetes. All of which makes the thought of her tossing anyone's salad infinitely more gratifying. I'll have too much to dream tonight, for sure. A merry Thanksgiving, all. -Eran ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From macarthur at xxx.com Thu Nov 25 17:02:37 1999 From: macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 17:02:37 -0000 Subject: Sinister: We kiss in his room, to a popular tune Message-ID: <004801bf3767$0431e080$543963c3@default> Sisters of mercy, Winter is here, hooray hooray. The baby kissing season is nearly upon us. Welcome back dark nights, cold mornings and Blind Date. Fiona said theres a club in Dublin called BUTTON MOON. When I was even younger and fresher faced than I am now, I used to watch button moon on the television. The magic pen! The fantastic opening sequence! Forgive my enthusiasm, I'm actually so scared I've gone hyper. The House plays are this evening, and I've been sitting in a directors chair like James Cameron for the last month, shouting abuse at my darling cast. "Ricky Butcher could do better than that!" "Infact I could do better than that with no mouth!". They love me really. Anyway, I'm buying their affection and adoration with Haribo Starmix if they don't. Jordi, you can't start the sinister F.C, we already have a football team. They're corkers, too! I have watched the scally's whip their skinny arses about the green green grass of Primrose hill many a time. I've shouted abuse at them too. BEWARE. watching 'If....' too many times can lead to embarassing side affects. Imagine my horror, when I went to insult someone today, and found myself saying "Oh shag owf" instead of "get lost". Everyone thinks I hate them at the moment, as still being devoid of a pair of spectacles, I have to squint to see. It's agony, it really is - I often don't smile for fear of wrinkles - but squinting, my god! I'll look like Dot Cotton before you know it. Let's face it, I already dress like her. David Devant and his Spirit wife, 11 December - Barfly at the Camden Falcon. Who is with me? Erica x http://www.chickpages.com/rants/golighty/index.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From barbielovesyou at xxx.com Thu Nov 25 18:36:37 1999 From: barbielovesyou at xxx.com (Barbie's Ink Polaroids) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 18:36:37 0000 Subject: Sinister: HOME SWEET HOME Message-ID: Dear Journal, As this is all about me and my life I guess I'd better include a picture of my house. My home is really important to me. It's the place I can relax after a busy day, and where my friends and family can come and visit. I have some great times here. But most important of all I think everyone needs a space of their own to be alone if they need to be and of course a space to put all their favourite things. Although I love going on holiday, seeing lots of exotic places and meeting lots of different people, I'm always really pleased to get home as well! love Barbie get your free gURLmAIL at http://www.gURLmAIL.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kellushk at xxx.uk Thu Nov 25 21:03:31 1999 From: kellushk at xxx.uk (Kelly Anyfantaki) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 21:03:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: asphalt ribbons Message-ID: <006a01bf3788$89d857c0$62ec93c3@SEAJUSTICE.ATH.FORTHNET.GR> Hello, I am listening to 'old horse' by asphalt ribbons, apparently Stuart Tinderstick's preview LP and there is the wonderful track : strong hands. This is cool. Also chicks on speed and 'glamour girl'. This is cool too. xxxxxxxxx Kellushka +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Thu Nov 25 22:35:14 1999 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 22:35:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: catscanning Message-ID: Hello it's me! First off I can't take credit for the new quotation in the footer, although I think it's peachy, but I did correct it recently having been nudged by List Lawyer Carsmile Steve that we didn't want to be sued for an inaccurate quotation. There we go. Secondly: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/cgi-local/photo.cgi?gallery=bodyparts That's where the bravest person on the list has sent in the first contribution to the new anonymous body parts photo page. Lick your lips mmm mmm! OK, so there's no bare skin yet, but you get the idea, AND you can take a peek at Damon's fabulous bodypart inventory of list content in the last week or so on the link from that page as well. Lots of you have mentioned your bodies in posts to the list, you frisky things, and not sent in photos, contrary to the new list rule - Damon will be popping round to your house soon with a Polaroid camera to rectify this. I pick my words carefully, and Mr David Moore, wash your mouth out now. So send your contributions in now before you hear a knock on the door. Ideally the thing you send in will be capable of growing hair or perspiring, and may not be recognisable. And to get you in the mood, you could do worse than pop over to www.cat-scan.com. I'm hoping for our very own hate-mail collection too one day. Talking of cats! Hands up who lives in Reading, or has visited a post office in Reading, or slept with a postman in Reading or SOMETHING! Splat the Cat who lives with me and whose meeow you can hear on the Sinister site got a package from Reading (UK) with her own voice sampled to within an inch of its life and singing 6 TOP POP HITS from the 1980s and 90s including Boyzone, Joan Jett and The Gate! I have a hitlist of 4 likely candidates on keyboards - yes you, sniggering at the back. Anyway, I'll MP3 some of it sometime soon if anyone wants to hear - and believe me, you do. So sue me. Yes, the site of the band doing Loneliness on TV at the weekend really was worth waiting for, for me anyway - bizarre to see them not dropping guitars or suffering from hilarious banana-skin incidents on stage. Apparently that bit where Stuart stopped singing and giggled at the breakdancer in the crowd was because he'd actually suggested someone breakdancing out front before the cameras started rolling, and someone took him up on it. I did like the whistling fade-out bit though, like in Bridge Over The River Kwai. Oh and! I really really really want JENOWL and GEORGE to marry and have lots of sinister babies. Is "Jeepster Own My Soul" grammatically correct? Just wondering. Finally, Katrina's sent on the latest band diary from the Guardian. It's on the band WWW site but no-one's asked me to stop sending them here yet, so you're about to get it here. Do tell me if I'm being a pain. Trivia fans: "Laura" mentioned below is the same Laura responsible for the fabulous cartoons on the Sinister WWW site. Mummy xxx DIARY OF A BAND 24th November 1999 I had a holiday for a few days there. It was great except that in the ten days I was away they might as well have abolished the game of football for all I've got left to cheer about. I guess I should be glad I was away really, and only came back to see Scotland win at Wembley. I'd got up early on Saturday to try to see the Hampden leg in New York, but every Irish bar was full at eight in the morning. I suppose in some ways it's pretty good to have been on the other side of the world for the Lyon game and the old firm. Still, I shouldn't moan. Laura and myself both caught up with friends and came back with bulging bags of records. We were in San Francisco as well as New York, two pretty contrasting places. In San Francisco there are streets in the city centre where from the top you can see the countryside beyond the city. From New York we drove for about an hour one day without ever really being in open country, which isn't to say there wasn't a good view. The city at night looks great from a distance. The Burritos in San Francisco were better, but on the other hand the record shops in New York stay open later. Surprisingly there are less homeless on the streets in New York, but only because the police move them all on. I saw a rat there the size of a small dog. Also I was lucky enough to see Gil Scot Heron play. He was powerful and funny and funky and uplifting and hard hitting from one moment to the next. His band were named amnesia express because they had forgotten why they were called amnesia express. The piano player Brian Jackson was one of the best I've ever been lucky enough to see. I was glad to come home too. We've been back in the studio this week and tomorrow we're getting the train down to Newcastle to record songs for the Tube. Everyone is pretty excited about it; there's an Ikea and good record shops in Newcastle. Chris Geddes +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From whatev at xxx.com Thu Nov 25 22:56:35 1999 From: whatev at xxx.com (Steven) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 17:56:35 -0500 Subject: Sinister: gobble gobble Message-ID: <001501bf3798$54248760$1ddbb4cf@en.com> Hi all, I'm writing with a plea for kindness. My car was broken into the other night. They stole the stereo and a box of tapes. I was doing a tape inventory today to see exactly what I was missing. Well...it turns out I was stupid enough to leave my only copy of the Barcelona 97 show that I had in there. Also on the tape was my only copy of "Rhoda" ! If there is anyone with either or both of these that would like to help me out please write. I've got many things to trade in return. I know many of you know how much it would mean to me. thanks, Steven whatev at en.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From redden at xxx.com Fri Nov 26 05:09:19 1999 From: redden at xxx.com (danielle redden) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:09:19 -0500 Subject: Sinister: shake that thing Message-ID: i am listening to an early ray charles record....oooohhhhhhh.......fantastic...... i may just keep playing it for the whole night through. i bought it yesterday along with an alberta hunter record - anyone know a thing about her? well the record is also fantastic and there is the most darling photo of her on the sleeve, oh she is an angel. thanksgiving was lovely. there was a birthday cake for my twin brother and i and everyone sang and i got to blow out candles with him and everything. blowing out birthday cake candles is one of my favorite things in the world. and it was the first time in a long time that i didnt make a wish that in someway referred to unrequited love. oh. but i am a tall girl and i can fall hard. the day was only dampered a bit when my aunts reprimanded me for not doing a very good job of being a proper lady. i laughed. proper lady my arse. z-z-zoe asked: >WHAT IS/WAS THE BOWLIE? he-he what wasnt the bowlie..... b-b-babychris made this statement: >The smashing pumpkins did a song called >landslide they coverd it. originally done by fleetwood mac. which is a nicer version because crazy stevie nicks adds more of a haunting-ness to it. j-j-johan told us: >i have no interest in horses i think horses are lovely. galloping around on a horse an amazing experience indeed, a bit sexual, a bit mad. regardless, this post is really fucking long and has no, eh, b&s content whatsoever. BUT i read an article in a local philly paper this morning and the writer used the word "twee" in his article. describing a record store's selection nonetheless. (hint: the word "twee" doesnt really exist in the states) the writer must be on this list(hello). anyway, one last thing i promise... i will be running up to NYC friday and would like to know 1. the best record stores to go to 2. an ace place to go dancing and drinking and knitting thank you. time to feed the cat his turkey dinner (and you thought i was going to post without mentioning my cat....). love danielle Whaat!!! Have you tried The Doghouse??! Get your FREE WEB-BASED EMAIL account at: http://doghousemail.lycos.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lleweth at xxx.com Fri Nov 26 07:40:06 1999 From: lleweth at xxx.com (Laura Llew) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:40:06 PST Subject: Sinister: Tried to tell MR. DICKIE to not use caps. But did he listen? NO. Big N. Big O. Message-ID: <19991126074006.9116.qmail@hotmail.com> So, how was everyone's Day of Overeating? Here's a quick recap of mine: There was boredom followed by dullness with a dash of echh. The big contemplative question of the day was "Pecan and Pumpkin Pie: Previews of Heaven or Tools of Lucifer?" The answer is still being fought out - cast your votes now. Honest Honey said, "Trivia fans: "Laura" mentioned below is the same Laura responsible for the fabulous cartoons on the Sinister WWW site." Dang you mummy. How am I suppose to keep living in a deluded world if you insist on spouting the truth all of the time? I want to having bulging bags of records. I want to draw fabulous cartoons featured on fabulous websites. I want to have just spent time catching up with friends with Chris Geddes. But Nooooo. I'm thrown out of my world of delusions of belle and sebastian greatness back into a place called reality where things like that don't happen. Oh well, I do like Honey posting the diary to the list because then we get to hear more from him - which I like. *YaY* Not to dis Chris (sorry I just wanted to rhyme), but I think that Stuart Murdoch might be my favorite Sebastian. Not that I know the band at all well enough (as in I don't know a dang them about any of them) to have a favorite, but yes its Stuart. Most likely because he has a bicycle with my name. Thinking out loud (when I found out about this), I was trying to come up with similarities between myself and a bicycle. I had to quickly change the subject as someone suggested something about handlebars. *ack* My latest endeavor has been making a mix tape where Belle and Sebastian will reign mightly on side A. My other favorite group, The Pixies, will prance headily along on the second side. It has been quite the challenge trying to narrow down which songs should go on the tape and in what order. Right now, I'm listening to them trying to come up with which ones of the Pixies Song to choose. I feel like a beauty contestant judge. Cecilia Ann is Miss Congeniality. That wasn't tough with with 'Break my body' and 'I bleed' for competitions. Does anyone else feel like getting Frank Black a cup of hot tea after listening to a Pixies cd? You know his throat has to be sore after some of those songs. I also just finished submitting my list of Top 10 Pixie Songs to the belle and sebastian site (though I did it with someone else so the songs are vastly different from what I would have chosen had it been a solo project). I feel like I left so much out. I don't think I will ever attempt it with Belle and Sebastian songs - it just hurts too much to leave good tunes by the wayside. Oh well. Just think, my little list will be amongst the likes of such great lists as Top Ten would-be phrases from American Talk shows. Wave of Mutilation right up there with "Yo' pinko blueberry muffins yo couldn't even do a sunny-side for the Minnesota Moose Haulers." Sucker Punch Jensowl said, "Yada, yada yada - knitting - yada, yada yada." Ok, so I'm paraphrasing. I was quite excited to hear that someone else has 'grandmotherly tendencies'. Although I don't knit, I do crochet. It is a habit of the devil. i don't really like it but its quite addictive. I make blankets rather than scarves though - so place those orders with Jen and not me. Is anyone else disturbed by the new body part section of the list? The one leg picture wasn't all that bad and I'm sure that people everywhere with shoe fettishes will quite enjoy it. I always liked Christopher Morley's quote about high heels being invented by a woman who was kissed on the forehead. I was just about to go into a detailed paragraph trying to mention all of my body parts in random ways so that I might be able to add another tally to the list (and get harrassed by the 'enforcer'. Oohhh just the thought makes me *shiver*) but I'll restrain. Being poor the only thing I can afford is self-denial, so I'm quite good at it. Love and Giant Pixie Sticks, Laura ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 26 14:17:15 1999 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:17:15 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: It's beyond me what a girl could see Message-ID: I'm only lucid when I'm writing e-mails I'm afraid to say that madness is beginning to permeate through sinister and there are now at least 2 people who are in serious need of a good psychiatrist. I'm sorry to say this but these people are in need of help before they endanger themselves. Who am I talking about? Well the 2 idiots who have voted for me on the list crush site of course. On a different note I've just read the diary of a band (keep posting them Honey, I like them) and felt that I ought to add a further recomendation of Gil Scott Heron, his was one of the best gigs I have ever been to managing to be deep and meaningful yet totally uplifting, I was there with all my mates who are ravers (CJ Bolland was on the same bill) and even they thought he was great. The only other time that's ever happened was when I took one of them along with me to see Damon and Naomi and he was almost moved to tears by them cos they were so good. Moral of the story: you can even take people with bad musical taste to see great music and they'll enjoy it, file Gil Scott Heron and Damon and Naomi under great music. well that's about all from me a big thankyou to the people who voted for me (in case you didn't realise that the witterings above were a kind of thankyou.) love you all owen With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From meepmeepmeepmeep at xxx.com Fri Nov 26 14:05:03 1999 From: meepmeepmeepmeep at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mr=20Beaker?=) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 06:05:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: England 9 Luxembourg 0 Message-ID: <19991126140503.8449.rocketmail@web1404.mail.yahoo.com> Gosh - who remembers Luther Blisset's hattrick ? Even Ricky Hill played in that game - if ever there was an act of contempt towards the oppostion. Sorry all this talk of footy has somewhat aroused me into writing my first post in yonks. I've been sooo busy. DAVID WILKIE Firstly the King of Thailand (who's birthday it is on the 5th so I'll see you all in Athena tommorow) enlisted my Duncan Goodhew-like talents to teach Madame Ooon how to swim. She prefers elephants to water, but by the end of my stay I had her playing water-polo like a rock-hard bastard. BEEF AND MUSTARD Sorry to all of you who didn't get a postcard from us, but I can whole-heartedly suggest you cut down on your biscuit nibbling and save your pennies for a trip to Krabi in the South of Thailand. There can only be a few places left in the world so beautiful - Mountains, rainforest, paradisial (?) beaches and coral reef and because it is relatively untouched by commercial tourism, sunbeds ten a man. That kind of takes the fun out of being an Englishman on holiday - no ritual towel dunking at dawn !!! SPOTTY BACK Talking of elephants and football, we went to a show of football-playing elephants. They all had cute shirt-like things with famous footballers names on. And true to form Shearer was a complete tool. Davor Suker had a shot on him that would break your average goalkeepers legs, and Oliver Bierhoff laid the biggest turd you've ever seen. KEVIN CAMPBELLS JOCKSTRAP Talking of elephants and football, tomorrow is the game that should see the biggest gathering of great football minds, and the biggest gathering of shit on one small paddy field ever....Exeter vs Torquay. So if Mark C wants a fight and a ticket for the Everton cup game he better turn up at The Park tomorrow. Right that's enough from me - I'm just glad I only have poor-mans telly and missed that dreadful Tube revival thingy on Sky. It means there is actually something to look forward to over the xmas period. Thanks for listening. Adrian. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dbgeraghty at xxx.uk Fri Nov 26 11:05:05 1999 From: dbgeraghty at xxx.uk (David Geraghty) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:05:05 -0000 Subject: Sinister: A Confession... Message-ID: <00aa01bf37fe$32935340$e829d4d4@dbgeraghty> I will be honest. I always thought it would be quite impossible to dream about every member of the bellend sebastian. even more difficult and unlikely, i thought, to dream about them playing instruments in a gig situation, with each member playing the right instrument. With me recognising each member because they looked SOOOOO life like. And arse me if i wasn't right. I had been considering (in real life, not dream world...) putting on gigs at the arts cinema i work at, and it has been occupying my head rather a lot recently. Evidently, when combined with going to sleep listening to B&S it results in dreams about me putting gigs on with B&S playing. But here is the crucial bit. There were 4 Isobels, all the same but with different hair. They seemed to be doing most of the boring stuff that doesn't involve being The Murdoch and looking quite angry. It was definately Belle and Sebastian though because someone in my dream deemed in neccesary to stand up and shout about it being to quiet. The others were there, but they all hid their faces from me.... Suffice to say my promoters aspirations have been somewhat dulled, as i have a feeling this gig wasn't a sucess. I think it was a sign. But then again, maybe it was a good sign. i'm trying to think of bands suitable to sitting down events. mail me off list if you have any particually wonderful ideas....bearing in mind that, as yet, sitting down isn't the new standing up and being noisy and all excited. yet. anyway... Honey Said: "bizarre to see them not dropping guitars or suffering from hilarious banana-skin incidents on stage." no, but it happened in my dream probably, so normal service resumed. Also said: "That's where the bravest person on the list has sent in the first contribution to the new anonymous body parts photo page. Lick your lips mmm mmm! " bum, i said arse. Bollocks to that. Well, many apologies for forcing you to read such dross, it might happen again. david. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From glam_girl2000 at xxx.com Fri Nov 26 16:39:06 1999 From: glam_girl2000 at xxx.com (secret crush) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:39:06 EST Subject: Sinister: adventures in soberness Message-ID: <19991126163906.18997.qmail@hotmail.com> good morning everyone. i'm sitting at work reminiscing the past 2 days & i thought i'd share them with all of you. on wednesday night i went to a disco with a car full of boys. the half-hour drive was an absolute riot. we talked about 'buffy the vampire slayer' tv show & generally made fun of each other. a few times i almost ran us off the road because i was laughing so hard. i'm currently taking applications for boys to ride with me in my car everywhere i go. it's really the best way to travel. when we got there, in the parking lot i started dancing & singing "and my disco hair gives me a certain disco flair, & when we go in there everyone will stop & stare", a song i made up as i went along. then my ex-boyfriend started singing about my hair to the tune of 'shaft'. it was hilarious. and i was right - they did all stare, at our superior dance moves. i slept at a friend's house with 2 other people & we stayed up until an ungodly hour talking & listening to b&s, which was nice. among us was an engaged couple & i just kind of observed them for a while. i can't relate to being in a relationship anymore. it's been over 2 years since i've had a boyfriend. and that's really sad for someone such as myself. i think i'm attractive (i'll put up a picture soon to prove it), i've got a sense of humour, i'm not fat, & i can drink way more than most people i know. but that's not the point. the point is that love is a wonderful thing & for those who are lucky enough to find it, hold on to it. the 4 of us had dinner yesterday at denny's, which is a chain-restaurant that hasn't updated their furniture since the early 80s. we went around the table & said what we were thankful for, in a mockery of thanksgiving tradition. i gave thanks for polly-o string cheese, friends & family, & oral contraceptives; in that order. i don't remember what the others said because i was looking at the crooked red & black b&s sticker on the back of my friend's car. we caused a ruckus, being deliriously hungry from sleeping the day away. the waitress got mad at us for calling her pie girl & then we went home. i didn't have nearly enough alcohol & that's why i recall all of these details. this may not happen again for a long, long time (some sinisterines let out a heavy sigh of relief). good-bye, darlings. misbehave. -heather e. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martin at xxx.uk Fri Nov 26 16:29:32 1999 From: martin at xxx.uk (Martin Robinson) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 16:29:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: boil in a bag rice Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19991126162932.0073aa24@ampsys.co.uk> Hello all and sundry, I'm most dulled. So much so that I actually took up the offer of playing snooker this lunchtime. I was quite pleased as I successfully managed not to rip the baize. Actually that sounds like a good euphemism for something smutty. Hmm... Answers on a postcard please. I went round some couply friends house the other night and found that all 4 of them are addicted to low fat junk food and jogging pants. It was another world, where cigarettes and alcohol were not King and Queen, instead in their thrones were sitting low fat chocolate hobnobs and a pair of Nike drawstrings. I must admit though that the carrot cake they had was quite moreish, it was moist and everything. But I did not succumb to their comfortable trousered, diet naughty fooded ways. So instead tonight of chewing the low fat to the shows television yields I think I shall be supping with D Matt to the sounds of Track and Field. Umm.. I think I'll nip my poetic contribution to Archel in the bud now and concentrate on ripping the baize. Maybe... Only if its a good thing mind... Today I've been mostly thinking about Love. The band that is. Obviously, I don't mean the other thing as that involves girls and they're far too scary. I've sent my top ten songs of Love that came into my mind and why to the B & S site. Which killed at least 5 minutes of another busy day at the office. Then after checking my "more Scott Walker CD's please!" order at HMV, did my top five movies of the millenium. I'm now starting to think ,though, that maybe Spaceballs isn't the best film of all time. Oh well, go with your instinct I guess or maybe just carry on ripping the baize. I'm sure I had something to say. Oh well, just so this mail isn't completely fruitless I shall add some random bodily parts to up the big Bodypartometer. Snatch, chuff, chimney, symbiotic, trombone, arse, Chris Moyles, big arse, sloth, "Heaven's to Mergatroid", red snappers, ... Ummm, is that the time... Te ra, Martin ear confection recording (http://www.send.demon.co.uk) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aic99 at xxx.edu Fri Nov 26 17:58:59 1999 From: aic99 at xxx.edu (AIC 99) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 12:58:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: List Crush Site!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello All! can someone out of the kindness of their heart tell me what the url for the list-crush site is??? i seem to have trouble finding it, in fact i don't just seem to, i am .. :) byebye lovely days Andreea +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Fri Nov 26 18:29:16 1999 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 18:29:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: List Crush Site!!! Message-ID: <80256835.0065938D.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> > can someone out of the kindness of their heart > tell me what the url for the list-crush site is??? I'm sending this to the list becuse lots of people seem to be having trouble finding it. I think the link hidden under 'stuff' or something on the Sinister website. http://www.jeepster.co.uk/cgi-bin/belle/listcrush.cgi Remember - it's supposed to be something nice. Not something for people to worry about. Like charity work, it's best not to talk about it too much. And a culture of multiple voting isn't healthy. It's not supposed to be a beauty contest either. You're supposed to be taking a shine to people's inner being, as expressed through the wit, charm and punctuation of their posts. Or something like that. Course if you look at the the photo page and find your erstwhile heartthrob is a real minger then of course you're entitled to pull out. We're only human. Of flesh and blood we're made. We're only human. Born to make MI-STAAAAKES. What was that? Err - don't reply to the list with the answer to that. I'm a bit bored of the whole listcrush since my pre-slate-wiping heyday when I regularly chomped at Trouser's umm.. trouser legs. If you're upset at being No. 141 in the poll, just try and make a connection with Belle & Sebastian and their chart no-show. This is great for indie snobs of course, but no good for real P!O!P! kids who understand that P!O!P! is ultimately derived from the word 'popular' (now archaic). *They* know that it's best to be Will Smith. Or Erica MacArthur. What was I saying? Nick xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aconover at xxx.net Fri Nov 26 18:05:06 1999 From: aconover at xxx.net (aconover at xxx.net) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 13:05:06 -0500 Subject: Sinister: i love rubber cement Message-ID: <199911261859.NAA23742@s1.nassau.cv.net> i just my new magnetic fields record. well, to be precise, i got it a few days ago, but i haven't listened to it much until now. stephen merrit is far more goth than i expected... for some reason, i pictured a short, shaggy fellow with an acoustic guitar, not a scary deep goth man. oh, well, i still like it ok. opinions? has anyone ever heard of the lucksmiths? i've heard good things about them, and they've been compared to b+s, but it's hard to get their albums in the us, i think... (they're aussies) amazon only stocks an import of theirs... i saw nick drake in a commercial. that is, i heard "pink moon" during a car commercial. it wasn't very appropriate, and was cut in a strange place, but it still made me feel nice inside. lizzie was mad, though... she didn't want nicky to be in a car commercial. lizzie is the girl, remember? i'm sure you do, dear. ooh, "smoke and mirrors" is a good song. - adam (the uncapitalized one. heh.) aconover at optonline.net Tempus Fugit is at: http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mariannebratlie at xxx.com Fri Nov 26 19:21:44 1999 From: mariannebratlie at xxx.com (Marianne Bratlie) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:21:44 PST Subject: Sinister: Ben Christophers, Camera Obscura Message-ID: <19991126192144.49157.qmail@hotmail.com> ....went to see Ben Christophers last night, which was great. He`s on a "scandinavia tour", and I suggest that those who live in Sweden,and finds out he`s playing where they live, go see him. I`m not sure where and when he`s playing, but it`s very soon, and probably in Stockholm. (sorry for being so vague..) How has the response to his album been in the UK? Belle and Sebastian...hmm, ok, did you know that there is a norwegian writer who has called his book "tigermelk"? I guess you don`t have to guess twice what this means. Tigermilk? yepp! ...and, Yes, I`ve heard somewhere that it actually is "taken" from the Belle & Seb. album. He wrote the book before tigermilk was re-released ,and I`m not sure if he would have called it tigermelk if he had known this.(well, I have heard that he`s said this as well)(this= album re-release just a few months before his book was due). (guess it didn`t hurt his sale though..) ... ok,I could have been wrong, but I don`t think I was.. (about calling it tigermelk after Belle and seb, but even so, the book IS called tigermelk, and I think it`s quite a funny coincidence then...) ....anyone started it , he was..and I`ve been wondering lately, just who`s gonna save me...(couldn`t help myself after writing the first line..)(Sundays, I kicked a boy.Love this song) ok, that was all I had to say for now, . no, by the way..., I`m wondering if anyone has any Camera Obscura stuff that they could record for me? (..anything ...it seems impossible to get any of their stuff here in the north..) I could send you something in return..., live rec. of Ben. C for instance? take care, xx mb ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From caroline.smith at xxx.com Fri Nov 26 21:11:51 1999 From: caroline.smith at xxx.com (Caroline Smith) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 16:11:51 -0500 Subject: Sinister: i love rubber cement In-Reply-To: <7AFFDB421085C8E085256835006A8F3C.006873CE85256835@maclaren.com> Message-ID: > > i saw nick drake in a commercial. that is, i heard "pink moon" during > a car commercial. it wasn't very appropriate, and was cut in a > strange place, but it still made me feel nice inside. lizzie was mad, > though... she didn't want nicky to be in a car commercial. lizzie is > the girl, remember? i'm sure you do, dear. oh yeah, that's the new VW Cabriolet ad. I think it's beautiful. http://www.vw.com/debut/ caroline +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From BradWhiddon at xxx.com Fri Nov 26 22:51:46 1999 From: BradWhiddon at xxx.com (BradWhiddon at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 17:51:46 EST Subject: Sinister: nose candy Message-ID: <0.4c2daff0.25706902@aol.com> i spent thanksgiving alone. my first ever. i did have a nice thanksgiving spaghetti dinner, though. and then i got into my car to drive around for a while and the fucker wouldn't crank. so i got one of my hippie neighbors to take me to the store and then they gave me some leftover turkey and corn. and then later that night they came over with some more. so now i'm heating up some turkey that i didn't cook and didn't ask for, and it was very sweet of them. i'm gonna have to not speak so poorly of them from now on. then my car wouldn't crank this morning, so it was a thirty minute walk in the rain to work. but, and here's the point of this letter, i got home and i had my new issue of maxim magazine in my mailbox (does anyone else out there read this) and the new beck cd. the new beck cd is interesting. that's all i'll say. i heard isobel is addicted to toot. -brad +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From unloveable_ at xxx.com Sat Nov 27 05:35:38 1999 From: unloveable_ at xxx.com (angela i hate my last name) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 23:35:38 CST Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19991127053538.17628.qmail@hotmail.com> loves philosophy: by shelly the fountains mingle with the rivers & the river with the ocean the wind of heaven mix forever with a sweet emotion nothing in the world is single all things by a law divine in one spirit meet and m i n g l e why not i with thine? see the mountains kiss high heaven and the waves clasp one another no sister flower would be forgiven if it disdained its brother and the sunlight clasp the earth and the moon beam kissed the sea what is all this sweet work worth if thou kiss not me? ahem....i like that , and awkward as i might feel sharing such a bit of words such as this....i make no apologies. hope you enjoyed it liked as i did. sleep well, and may you dream of large women ********************************************************************* angela, from the mecca of elvis fans I.C.Q.#47995388 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From porterww at xxx.edu Sat Nov 27 06:59:07 1999 From: porterww at xxx.edu (Will Porter) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 00:59:07 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: Style and how I have significantly less of such than I would like. In-Reply-To: <19991127053538.17628.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Ok, so I'm here to ask the experts: How much corduroy is too much? I've been eyeing this corduroy jacket, but I suspect that it is quite the corduroy faux pas to wear both a corduroy jacket and corduroy pants. To top things off, I fear that wearing two different colors in corduroy at the same time. And for the record, I believe it is I who am THE new Will, as I pointed out in my earlier message. I have just been to see Being John Malkovich, which was delightful. Incidentally, reading this list makes me want to talk and spell all British-like, though I suspect that would make me one of the many fakers defining the century (see how I slipped that in there? The new Will is very clever indeed). The compulsion to say 'arse' and spell things with a superabundance of the letter 'u' is quite a strong one. Quite a quandary indeed. I have been wating patiently for ye olde pajaro de poesie to perch on my sill, but no such luck. Must be because it's not my metaphor at all and I'm terribly late to that particular party. On the other hand, I'm quite glad not to have seen the limerick cockroach around my apartment, so perhaps I should count the blessings I do have. In case you hadn't noticed by now, I don't really have anything to say at all. Somebody, I think, mentioned something about girls being terribly scary, and I must agree. I think they teach girls how to be scary in the part of the sex-ed movie that they never let the boys watch in school. It occured to me as I was driving that B&S might be just the sort of thing that appeals to people who are moderately to terribly lonely, and how that was a pretty good description of me since moving to Texas, and I began to wonder if any of you were lonely too. Talking of the members of the band, it occured to me (as a great many things do, but thankfully, I forget most) that Belle and Sebastian looks to be the sort of band that is greater than the sum of its parts and that though I like Looper and even (gasp!) the Gentle Waves, neither has the same magic as B&S. What is a jaffa cake? Right now, I'm seriously considering not sending this message, because I suspect it might be as dumb as I think it is. it's a bit like talking to girls. (trying desperately to think of a clever closing) Will Porter (the new Will) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From craigrm at xxx.uk Sat Nov 27 11:59:25 1999 From: craigrm at xxx.uk (Craig) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 11:59:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Rigging Millenuim Polls for a hobby is OK Message-ID: <009c01bf38ce$da879400$bce793c3@orlando1> just a quick post-ette to remind everyone of their duty as citizens of the ever-growing, lovely, carefree and happy Sinister Community. This duty is of course to unnaturally influence the outcome of as many online "the greatest blah blah blah of the millennium" type polls as we possibly can. So far the suggestions are: http://www.bbc.co.uk/movies/film99/form.shtml * The common consensus here is to vote for Gregory's Girl. I haven't seen it myself, but it's well worth going to the trouble of voting even if it's just to hear Jonathon (w)Ross trying to pronounce it. But having said that, anything featuring wee Clare Grogan really has got to be good for the soul. And other places as well, which I won't be mentioning least I be required to send the shocking pictures to Honey's bodypart gallery. http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/19991117163652.html The NME poll, voting for a certain Scottish combo is the first thing that springs to mind.... And finally..... http://www.vh1online.co.uk/ Sweaty Jono Coleman's gang also want our carefully considered opinions, I believe there's also prizes to be won here which kinda suggests a possible multiple votes scenario. Well that's it for now, not the most lively post ever but I've just got up and aren't quite firing on all cylinders yet. *Remember if we don't vote - the Robbie Williams fans most certainly will.* Cheerio one and all, Craig xxx ps. Mr Porter - for all your Jaffa cake needs and questions have a quick peek at http://www.jaffacakes.co.uk/ . +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From anelame at xxx.com Sat Nov 27 13:12:11 1999 From: anelame at xxx.com (anelor masson) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 05:12:11 PST Subject: Sinister: sinister : bucolic afternoon intro Message-ID: <19991127131211.34536.qmail@hotmail.com> mes chers petits sinistres, sorry an intro, yes another one i am anelor,a poor little frenchie lost in a british university... i wont go back to old debates about fall, winter and foreign cities although i dont think life in paris is that awful (bertrand 's post) i am fascinated by the beautiful tree outside my dorm, i actually stare at this tree for hours listening to music (you all know which music) i enjoy those bucolic afternoons dedicated to music, books and thoughts, lots of them funny how you get philosophical on those days i leave you all here, i gotta stare at my tree white chocolate , hugs and happy thoughts anelor ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Sat Nov 27 13:06:37 1999 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 13:06:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Conclusive proof that poor people's TV is best Message-ID: <80256836.00480594.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> Look what's on the band's website now: >>We recorded two songs for the TV programme 'The Apocalypse Tube', appearing alongside the likes of Paul McCartney and Robbie Williams. It has already been broadcast on Sky One, when they only showed one of the two songs we recorded, 'The Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner'. The other song, 'Beyond the Sunrise', the makers assure us, will be shown when the programme is repeated on Channel 4 on 1st January- ie just after the bells at new year- at 1am, finishing 4am. I think it's being shown again on New Year's Day at around 6pm too. >> I am told this Beyond the Sunrise is an 'ambitious' number. What can this mean? Here's hoping it's code for 'full of Eastern promise', with sitars and everything. I have heard that Isobel's a toot fiend. Apparently, she disturbed everyone's peace by running around the chalet like a mad thing screaming "I NEED COKE!!" to anyone who would listen. I'm not making this up. But the person who told me might have been. I only repeat it because it's funny. n. xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com Sat Nov 27 16:06:44 1999 From: sad_fluffy_ghd at xxx.com (GEORGE DICKIE) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 08:06:44 PST Subject: Sinister: EYE EYE CAPTAIN Message-ID: <19991127160644.60327.qmail@hotmail.com> YES YES YES YES YES MMMMMM A POSITIVE START WELL FORGET THAT I'M NOT HAPPY THAT B&S DID 2 SONGS AND ONLY ONE COULD FIT IN THE TUBE MMMM WHY???? ETC MY XMAS LIGHTS ON THE HEAD OF BED WERE SWITCHED ON WITH NO PROBLEMS AT NIGHT TIME THE LIGHT LOOKS REALLY GOOD I LIE ON MY BED WHILST LISTENING TO SONGS AND WRITE A POEM OR 2 OR 3 OR ANOTHER NUMBER ETC YES U SHOULD SEE IT IF I HAD YOUR EYES U COULD U SHOULD ALL GIVE YOUR EYES TO DAMON ON HIS BODY PART THANG MMMMM I WOULD GIVE MY EYES BUT I DO NOT HAVE THE EQUIPMENT ETC U CAN HAVE EYES IN DIFFERENT STATES DRUNK HAPPY SAD LIGHT DARK BLOODSHOT UP DOWN LEFT RIGHT ETC MMMMMMMMMMM I WAS THINKING ABOUT B&S AND THE NEW LP AND I THINK THEY SHOULD GIVE US AN LP TITLE WITH A MESSAGE U KNOW NOT JUST A TITLE TAKEN FROM A TITLE OF A SONG ON THE LP I WANT B&S TO MAKE A STATEMENT SOMETHING BOLD AND BEAUTIFUL LIKE *EAT FRUIT* OR THEY COULD TURN IT THE OTHER WAY ROUND AND TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY AND WASTE IT BUT SCORE ART POINTS THEY COULD CALL IT *MMMMMMMMMMMM ETC* A WASTE OF AN OPPORTUNITY BUT STRANGELY ATTRACTIVE WHAT I DON'T WANT IS FOR THEM TO CALL IT *BELLE AND SEBASTIAN* WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE HOPE ETC SORRY LAURA LIEW I LOVE THE PERSISTENCE BUT WHAT WOULD MARX SAY IF I GOT RID OF DAS KAPITAL MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM *ONE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE CONCEIVED IN LOVE TO BE CAPABLE OF LOVE* LOVE AND BROKEN GLASS GEORGE HENRY DICKIE ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From unloveable_ at xxx.com Sat Nov 27 21:03:04 1999 From: unloveable_ at xxx.com (angela i hate my last name) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 15:03:04 CST Subject: Sinister: the landslide question Message-ID: <19991127210304.11503.qmail@hotmail.com> landslide was originaly done by fleetwood mack sung by stevie nicks (shuddering) when i saw r.e.m. on their monster tour they allso did that song....i liked it ... so any way packing your house up to move sucks alot. any one wanna come help me? we are listening to desi arnaz "the best of the mabo king desi arnaz" it helps to break the rut of the same damn 15 c.d.'s i have been listening to over & over & over & over & over & over.......please pardon me. i made the mistake of drinking a ton of coffee last night & so at 4a.m. this morning i was up watching pee wee's big adventure i had forgotten how much i love that movie....pee wee was so hot! ok i am gonna cha-cha about my room now and try to get this over with as fast as i can......weeeeeeeeeee! fun! angela, from the mecca of elvis fans I.C.Q.#47995388 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jasonandreas at xxx.net Sat Nov 27 21:33:29 1999 From: jasonandreas at xxx.net (Jason Andreas) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:33:29 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The Radio Rocks Message-ID: <002301bf391f$2b964120$3ad8b0c2@default> Did anyone hear Beat 106 on Friday? I got my Belle & Sebastian song dedicated to Pete Waterman thing read out :) That's two stations and counting --Jason "If God had meant us to listen to boybands, He would have given them some talent." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Sat Nov 27 21:50:57 1999 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (Peter Miller) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:50:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: In a 10 Roddington Lonely Place Message-ID: <01bf3921$7d382a00$LocalHost@itjfvkli> I wonder if B&S will be doing cover versions when they tour again? I'd love to see Isobel perform Fela Kuti onstage. I bet Mad Dog Murdoch would too. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the cause of all that guitar smashing business in Dublin. Mind you, it wouldn't be the same without Stuart David looking on. I've been trying to think of other bobble-hatted bass players. The only one I can remember is KEITH from groovy train travelling all together now love sees no colour Liverpudlians The Farm. This afternoon I watched Leicester Tigers on Frenchie telly. Imagine my partial surprise to see my old schoolmate "Dozzer" knocking seven bells of shit out of the opponents. I was quite impressed, he seems to have matured over the fifteen years or so since I last saw him. I think he's a policeman now. I've also been keeping a close eye on the Big Country bulletin board on their website. Relax kids, the inventor of bagpipe guitars is safe and well. Hooray! Their former bus driver still seems very bitter for getting the sack for saying U2 were better than Big Country though. The rest of the fans are like Numanoids in lumberjack shirts. I like Stuart Adamson for those echoing "SHOUT-OUT-OUT-OUT!"s on their early 12 inch records. They were undoubtedly a precursor of the hallucinatory dub effects made popular by King Tubby ten years earlier. I think I'm going to go and put a message of support on their bulletin board. Mr Beaker, how did you teach Oon to swim? By chucking her in the water and then sticking a betting slip on the end of a fishing rod and dangling it just out of reach? Did she have a flutter on that elephants' football match? And is she back on the list? The list without Oon is like a meal without cheese. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From macarthur at xxx.com Sun Nov 28 01:07:54 1999 From: macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:07:54 -0000 Subject: Sinister: List Crush Site!!! References: <80256835.0065938D.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> Message-ID: <003401bf393d$04b4a880$c2faabc3@default> Hello all, I've come to air my dirty laundry, you lucky swines. In a long tradition of loosing things, my house play got the booby prize. Which means we're all tits. Which means no silver for the mantlepiece, and tired repetitions of the words "tried" and "hard". There are lots of excuses, but sadly, I can't blame my pink tights this time. It was obviously my rebellious directing techniques. and, to add insult to injury I find this little missive in my mailbox: > If you're upset at being No. 141 in the poll, just try and make a connection > with Belle & Sebastian and their chart no-show. This is great for indie snobs > of course, but no good for real P!O!P! kids who understand that P!O!P! is > ultimately derived from the word 'popular' (now archaic). *They* know that >it's best to be Will Smith. Or Erica MacArthur. Oh well, I have *so* many rude words to say to that post, but I shant waste my breath. I shall simply say, as a cheeky Irish girl band once did, C'est La Vie. Which is quaint, because Irish things are green, and so are your eyes, you monster. Erica x p.s I'm running off to the seaside next week - but I must shamelessly tell you to go and see my friend Jeremy's band BIG RED at the Betsy Trotwood next friday. Don't ask me, I've never seen them, but I know he'd really appreciate the support. http://www.chickpages.com/rants/golighty/index.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From robw at xxx.ie Sun Nov 28 03:06:10 1999 From: robw at xxx.ie (Rob Wright) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:06:10 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Hello References: <01bf3921$7d382a00$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Message-ID: <00a501bf394d$86946380$d6dc7dc2@oemcomputer> Hi everyone, well now seems as good a time as any to introduce myself especially seeing as I'm full of vodka and bravado. You see the thing is I've had quite possibly the best night out in at least 5 months and it's all thanks to Belle and Sebastian. Honest. So there we were, myself and my three best friends and it's Saturday evening and we're stuck for somewhere to go, since two of us don't want to go into town and we couldn't go to the local (for reason's to complex and boring to go into here). So anyway, we were stuck for somewhere to go and I was sitting at home listening to IYFS, when Fox in the snow came on, now in the local village there's a pub called the Foxes Covet and the song made me think of it....so to cut a long story short ended up there and as I've already said it was great. I meet two of my best friends from college, there was brilliant 'drunk music' ie The Proclaimers and The Jackson five, perfect for dancing when innebriated and to top it all off I kissed a girl who looked a lot like Sarah Whatsherface from Dubstar AND she asked for my number. Although I'll probably never hear from her again, at least right now at this exact moment, there's a chance she'll call me tomorrow and ask me to meet her again. Anyway I suppose I should go to bed now, it's a really nice night for sleeping too. It's very windy outside and I just love nights when you're lying in bed all warm and snuggled and outside the wind is howling and the rain is bashing off the windows - just like tonight. Night all, Rob P.S. Just read back over what I typed, I promise that when I post again it'll be more interesting. Honest. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From unloveable_ at xxx.com Sun Nov 28 03:43:58 1999 From: unloveable_ at xxx.com (angela i hate my last name) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:43:58 CST Subject: Sinister: the landslide question Message-ID: <19991128034359.5202.qmail@hotmail.com> From: "Michele Waggner" To: "angela i hate my last name" Subject: Re: Sinister: the landslide question Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 19:21:52 -0500 The Landslide that B&S sing is not the one that Fleetwood Mac did. It's an entirely different song. Motown-ish when they did it at Bowlie, very unlike them, and completely different words from the FM song. oh my dont i look like a dumb arse now? whoopsy! p.s. i got mhe early birthday present.....its the tigermilk l.p. , but not the orginal press though.....oh well it still sounds lovely! angela, from the mecca of elvis fans I.C.Q.#47995388 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aconover at xxx.net Sun Nov 28 16:15:40 1999 From: aconover at xxx.net (aconover at xxx.net) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 11:15:40 -0500 Subject: Sinister: sinister: love is lighter than air Message-ID: <199911280414.XAA00385@s1.nassau.cv.net> oh, yes, dearies, i love the magnetic fields. no, they're not goth, you've yelled me into submission. but i do love them, oh, yes. i'm going to be directing our high school's student production in the coming weeks... and i've chosen sartre's "no exit". i wanted to do "waiting for godot" but couldn't make hide nor tail of it, so i went for more accesible existentialism. although no exit is only one act, so i might be able to throw in a beckett short like krapp's last tape, even though it is not, upon re-reading, as short as i had thought. and substantially more difficult. oh, dear. carolyn asked me last night if i was attracted to her. in a roundabout way, so she could pretend we weren't having a probing personal conversation. so i told her, i did, i said, "i look at you, and i see things i don't see in..." and apparently this wasn't the answer she was expecting... and i thought it might be a good idea, you see, because why would she ask me this question if it wasn't leading up to something? unfortunately, it was leading up to "i like our relationship the way it is -now-, and i don't need it to be more than that." oh, she's a confusing girl, but it's better than when she hated me. but we will spend next weekend together at our teenage-love- and-understanding retreat, where we will cry together and become close as bugs in a tin of sardines, dear. so that's alright, i suppose. - adam aconover at optonline.net Tempus Fugit is at: http://www.i2.i-2000.com/~conover/tempus/main.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ynoh at xxx.edu Sun Nov 28 07:02:31 1999 From: ynoh at xxx.edu (Youn J. Noh) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 02:02:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Style and how I have significantly less of such than I would like. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dearest Sinister It s funny I was just thinking about the list crush thing and wondering in the absence of the photo pages would charm really be the basis of attraction not as unreal as integrity say but a step above pure physical infatuation Step above only in the sense of being generous Really no value judgments intended And I just noticed that it s the seemingly artless confession of vulnerability that makes me read twice and sigh But you can t really give people guidelines to follow cos it s not a matter of choice as noted by Lloyd Cole with additional songwriting credits to Lawrence Donegan Don t ask me if I want you Only ask me if I must I can t get them out of my head from the boy in the green sweater in the line for the submarine ride at Disneyland when my hopes were dashed cos the ride reached full capacity between him and me to the person here about whom the less is said the better as that might serve as an impetus for me to accept my fate Sometimes I am unreasonable enough to regret leaving a place cos I fear I ll never have anyone to adore again and hence my life would be meaningless but I should know myself better than that As noted in a lyric by Darren Hayman You love to be in love about which he said it was actually said to him And Genevieve you just need to unfocus your eyes a little and let his charm sink in His awkwardness so great as to seem deliberate is the very substance of it Stephen Trousse famously why famous it should be said that he looked like a muppet whilst unnatural for my dialect I know but I m susceptible to the charms of British English myself playing keyboards > In case you hadn't noticed by now, I don't really have anything to say at > all. The longer I continue the less I seem to be saying And more incoherently This is great Very true to life Whenever I used to tell people I was a linguistics major they would say Um yet you speak so incoherently I once wrote a paper on speech disfluencies using as my data conversations recorded at a library reference desk and I still remember a particular patron who was looking for a dissertation on Shakespeare Yes a crush needs very little to go on A person who at a momentary loss of words still sounds composed There are no radio stations to listen to in Columbus The only one I can tolerate is the classical music station They just had a program on called Indian Diffusion At first I thought it was going to be about American Indian music but they meant the sense not the reference of the term Indian as Columbus used it It was funny cos most of the DJs have a really high brow speech register and German or Scandinavian accents but the one for this show was speaking in the style of DJs on stations like KCRW in LA For the 1000 listees not residing in LA it s the middle aged or late twentysomething counterpart of the intonation used by people who work at cafes with mismatched cups and saucers and velvet sofas and walls painted red or some non background color For men it s the opposite of falsetto but not in a Rick Dees kind of way It s so that you pay attention to all the wrong words as with practiced flight attendants On the Belle & Sebastian page thanks to the person who wrote the top 10 George Harrison songs And I find it hard to believe that he could be the Beatle that everyone loves to hate as Peter Miller or some other musically omniscient listee noted Last weekend I rearranged the furniture in my room and put my speakers on top of my bookcase Someone else had conveniently bored a hole in the back wall of it so that I could connect the wires And it s a very pleasant experience to relisten to songs and hear all this stuff that I never heard before on account of the improved acoustics I m finally downloading Real Audio Player to listen to song samples by Comet Gain on the CD Now web site The song titles sound so promising that it could only be a good experience As my sister said on the phone yesterday the important thing is to be happy One more thing is that everyone in LA should listen to Eric J Lawrence s show on KCRW The station is 89 9 FM and his show used to be on at midnight on Tuesdays +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From markniciu at xxx.com Sun Nov 28 09:06:47 1999 From: markniciu at xxx.com (Mark Niciu) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:06:47 PST Subject: Sinister: Read Erica MacArthur's last post... Message-ID: <19991128090648.57825.qmail@hotmail.com> and discover for yourself what bodpart she mentioned. Isn't there some rule on Sinister that if you mention a bodypart, that bodypart in question must be photographed, scanned and posted to the "Sinister Bodyparts" page or Da Daddy Mac Enforcer will git ya and wreck shop or something? Oh well, I won't hold her to it, but if she shows her bodypart, I'll show my flabby example of it as well. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ill9mc at xxx.com Sun Nov 28 14:28:52 1999 From: ill9mc at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?maureen=20cassera?=) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 06:28:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: meeting in Leeds? Message-ID: <19991128142852.19257.qmail@web1608.mail.yahoo.com> Dear list...hello,hello,hello!!! This is Maureen's first message,I'm an Italian Erasmus student in Leeds. I don't think I can cope with seeing my message on the next digest,then I'll make it short so that it will almost be unnoticed to me...but please not to you,because this is a public request for a meeting in Leeds! If you want to contact me privately at ill9mc at leeds.ac.uk we can organize something and then announce it to the list. I would be pleased also to hear privately from the other Italian people on the list. Ciao, Maureen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seilsd at xxx.net Sun Nov 28 16:12:13 1999 From: seilsd at xxx.net (Damon Seils) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 10:12:13 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Erica's Bits References: <19991128090648.57825.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3841545D.E17CB46A@earthlink.net> ***A message from The Enforcer, currently on holiday in the Texas Hill Country. He ate a bird's various body parts there.*** I was pleased to see Mark Niciu's excitedly fleshy post about Erica's body parts. *I* was excited. RUMOR has it Mark's not the only one hoping to see some of that. But that's just RUMOR. Just know, Mark, that you've worked yourself into what I think is a lovely bind. I'm waiting anxiously for the, um, climax. And just so our fellow sweaty and slightly hairy Sinisterines don't forget it, let's show the replay... > ...if [Erica] shows her bodypart, I'll show my > flabby example of it as well. I will enjoy "enforcing" this, even if I'm not entirely sure which of Mark's bits we'll get to see. But do I ever have some things in mind. I hadn't really considered fully the implications for TARTINESS of this body part project. For those of you hoping to spice up the Body Parts Inventory, take a cue from Erica by making it as difficult as possible for me to determine exactly what the hell it is you're talking about. In such cases, I'm likely to just give up and include anything remotely...moist...that appears in your posts. It's all Erica's fault that the inventory is likely to soon include "pink tights" and "Irish things." *** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sun Nov 28 17:21:04 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 09:21:04 PST Subject: Sinister: slick Message-ID: <19991128172104.54577.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi List, >oh yeah, that's the new VW Cabriolet ad. I think it's beautiful. >http://www.vw.com/debut/ >caroline I agree..I love all the Volkswagen ads though..they are just so cool and so polished compared to the 'Like a ROCK..Ohhhh LIKE A ROCK'. I want the music from all the spots..especially that Cargo G song Ben Neill.I have no idea who that is,but I just found out from the website.Their commerical with the car in the Ice Hotel makes me squeal and sigh.Oh,how I long to go to the Ice Hotel! Again..I saw a list a top 50 things to do for New Years (deja vu from last year) and the Ice Hotel was number 19. My birthday is on the 19th. It should happen. Brad asked about: >but, and here's the point of this letter, i got home and i had my new issue > >of maxim magazine in my mailbox (does anyone else out there read this) >and >the new beck cd. the new beck cd is interesting. that's all i'll say. > >i heard isobel is addicted to toot. Well,according to the december issue of Cosmo: "Beck:Midnite Vultures Believe it or not,Beck has dumped his geekiness and is here to sex you up.Midnite Vultures is full of slinky grooves and nasty talk."Peaches and Cream" does a salacious bump 'n' grind,and "Debra" is a glimpse into Beck's dirty mind." I'm curious about it too.I still have trouble with Beck because he brings back horrible grade 7 images of spotty,greasy boys singing 'I'm a loser baby...' But the slinky grooves sounds good.Bear in mind this is the magazine that also says,on the same page,that "Fly,by the Dixie Chicks is a barnfull of hell-raising honky-tonk" I've never read Maxim but my friend says it's a funny magazine even though it is for boys. ok,yay fun! genevieve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris.jones at xxx.uk Sun Nov 28 18:16:04 1999 From: chris.jones at xxx.uk (Chris Jones) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 18:16:04 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Name that tune Message-ID: <199911281827.SAA02057@smtp.saqnet.co.uk> On the episode of The Simpsons where Abe gets married to Marge's mum, they finish with a song when the two of them are on a bus. It starts "Hello Grandpa My Old Friend.." I think. Again, I feel ignorant as it is probably very famous and I should know it, but can anyone help me out by telling me what it is. Thanks. Chris Jones. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jthorniley at xxx.net Sun Nov 28 18:43:34 1999 From: jthorniley at xxx.net (James Thorniley) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 18:43:34 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Untitled 2 Message-ID: <384177D6.88D1C8F9@hedgehog.freehosting.net> It's incredibly difficult to write whilst watching the Simpsons. HELLO Well, I feel all glowey inside because I just noticed I got a listcrush vote (I'm at 132 or something). How charming. I wonder who it was. I bet it was out of pity, but I don't really care, it makes me feel all special :):) I was up late last night babysitting. It was quite an effort to get little Felicity to go to bed - she had been to see S!T!E!P!S!, and was intent on describing the entire performance to me ;) And on to what I meant to say. All you girls who are worried because all men are bastards, don't worry, love will find a way - you'll meet a complete prick and think he's wonderful. I just noticed the other day that Laura has decided to go off with Stewart. Stewart being a complete wanker and Laura being quite a nice girl. If I wasn't so shy and polite I'd give her a slap. Oh, the tube was great, I loved the whistling bit because it made me whistle right throughout the week, which did slightly annoy a few people ;) So I went into town. There was an amusing shelf: "Gifts for christmas..." "Great Sex" being the title of a book stacked underneath it. Strangely I found no knitting needles. Ok, that's everything I think. Thankyou :):):) -- James Thorniley +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Sun Nov 28 20:57:53 1999 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:57:53 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: I am an antichrist, I am an anarchist Message-ID: only me nothing important to say really (well there's a surprise) but I need some help from you lot. A friend asked me to identify a song lyric and I just can't think what it came from so mail me privately if you recognise this Rats are in the kitchen scratching, whispering my name and laughing crawling up the walls into my bed.... ...a skeleton grin a slow hand clapping in it's another night in. well thanks in advance all of the people who are about to mail me to give me the answer. Oh and for all of you who read Chris Geddes' diary of a band I should just say that he is a lying little sod and that Newcastle has no good record shops and no Ikea, there is an Ikea in nearby Gateshead though, he might mean that one but there are definately no good record shops. right I'm of home to cry now 'cos the wonderful Archel has been in Scotland for the weekend but I didn't get to see her. love you all owen the sinister minister (by the way did I tell you that I'm an ordained minister..well I have now) With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JENOWL22 at xxx.com Sun Nov 28 22:29:30 1999 From: JENOWL22 at xxx.com (JENOWL22 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:29:30 EST Subject: Sinister: will a broken spirit help? Message-ID: <0.932e098c.257306ca@aol.com> Hello sinister people. How's things. I had a very nice saturday, and a crap sunday, but you can't win 'em all. Oh and a spent thursday and friday spewing up into a little basin. I had a belle and sebastian related dream: I was at a belle and sebastian gig in a church hall and boyzone were the support act and they got booed off. And when belle and sebastian came on StuartM had blue and yellow hair and Mick Cooke had two heads. And they started playing "Mickey" by lolly, and StuartM was doing backflips and squeaking a lot. Then they played Rotterdam, and a bouncer nearly threw me out for singing along. And afterward some guy in a long scarf, I think it might have been Chris (crystalballs) actually, or at least how I imagined him to be, 'cos I don't know what he looks like, anyway he said that they hadn't played very well, and I got really upset, so he ran away and I held up a toy shop, and demanded that they pay me in biscuits. And if the men in white coats lock me up, I'll know they've been on sinister. Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Glamtart at xxx.com Sun Nov 28 22:37:47 1999 From: Glamtart at xxx.com (Glamtart at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:37:47 EST Subject: Sinister: another intro - hold on to your seats! Message-ID: <0.3539c348.257308bb@aol.com> Hello everyone - I don't know if any of you actually read these introductions but I thought that since it's a lazy Sunday afternoon I might as well write one. My name is Mandy and I'm from Arkansas in the US. Ah, surprise surprise we are not all tobacco chewing hillbillies down here!!! Even if I did grow up on a farm! I just finished college in May with a degree in drama (melodrama, perhaps?!) and am currently taking a year off before doing my postgrad, a Master of Fine Arts in Directing at some as yet unknown graduate school. I spent my third year abroad at Trinity College in Dublin which I miss terribly. I also just spent this past summer there, working in a cafe called Nude. Currently I am a commodities sales rep for Cargill Inc - yes I'm working for The Man. What do I do?, you ask in wonder. Actually I sell turkey parts. Wings, drums, necks, etc... and yes, butts. I never imagined myself doing ANYTHING like this. It's money though and will help me afford graduate school. Since I am posting to Sinister you have probably guessed that I love Belle and Sebastian... that is very true. I like a lot of other music too (U2, Pulp, Morrissey, the Smiths, Gavin Friday, the Housemartins, Radiohead, etc etc etc). I also enjoy theatre, dance (I am a MEAN tap dancer), reading (I read plays, novels, cereal boxes), daydreaming, and all sorts of fun stuff. Well I shouldn't take any more of your time today... hopefully I will be able to keep up with reading Sinister (I must confess I've been so busy lately that my delete key is a little abused). Be good, kids. Mandy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pulpbot at xxx.com Mon Nov 29 01:18:42 1999 From: Pulpbot at xxx.com (Pulpbot at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:18:42 EST Subject: Sinister: I said lady, step inside my Hyundai Message-ID: <0.5aef72b2.25732e72@aol.com> Potential lovers, How depressing is it that "Pink Moon" is being used as a car commercial? I feel so guilty because I'd date any of the guys in the ad. It's creepy to think there's some super-hip ad guy or gal out there who took the music near and dear to their bedroom and appropriated it for...buying a car? How crass. At least it's not bikini wax. Anyway, I feel it's my karmic payback for adoring those Gap ads with the pretty singing boys and girls. So I apologize to everyone. Is anyone in the DC area going to Hefner? I'm starting a rumor that Stuart Murdoch is roadying for the band, so y'all have to show up to see if it's true. Then we can all monkey around my Mount Pleasant pad, which, according to my devilish roommate Eran, resembles a tampon box. I tell you, strap on a cowboy hat and all of a sudden you're stomping on people's feelings like a moist cigarette butt. I'll be traveling back to London in two weeks with Lonesome Cowboy Bill. Can anyone recommend anything splendiferous going on..concerts and the like? I have my list of record stores I need to hit and plans to stroll around the lovely Alexandra Palace, but that's it. Be my light, be my guide, someone. -Jennifer +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jj at xxx.com Mon Nov 29 03:58:44 1999 From: jj at xxx.com (jj) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:58:44 -0600 Subject: Sinister: re: I like rubber cement Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19991128215844.00a3dde0@pop.mindspring.com> >has anyone ever heard of the lucksmiths? i've heard good things about >them, and they've been compared to b+s, but it's hard to get their >albums in the us, i think... (they're aussies) amazon only stocks an >import of theirs... *sigh* the luckies. such charming young men. and so talented too! a big shout-out to the Kansas City-Sinisterians who came to their show at the cup&saucer last night - i hope you enjoyed it! its really not so hard to get the lucksmiths many releases in the states. especially since most of their releases now are available on the US labels Drive-In and Matinee! here's a sampling of fine independent mailorders that deserve your money much more than amazon.com - and they all carry lucksmiths releases! * Pal (www.pal-mailorder.com) * Insound Annex (www.insound.com/annex/) * Little Prints (members.aol.com/mnscrn01/littleprintsmailorder.htm) * Parasol (www.parasol.com) if you want the older cds that were released only on Candle though, you may have to go straight to the source (www.candlerecords.com.au) they've got just a handful of shows left on their current US tour so if you're on the northwest coast, try your bestest to make it to one of their shows in SF/arcata/portland/bellingham before they head to japan. goodness i sound like such a groupie! i can't help it though - they must've put a spell on me or something. at any rate, i highly recommend any and all of the luckies records - they're all lovely and well worth tracking down. xojj * * * http://www.monkey.org/~jj * * * +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jrgadsby at xxx.net Mon Nov 29 07:34:05 1999 From: jrgadsby at xxx.net (jane gadsby) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 23:34:05 -0800 Subject: Sinister: North American Branch! Message-ID: <006701bf3a3c$1ed09c60$3ce834d1@peter> P.S. The tape tree is a brilliant idea and I yet another reason why I am jealous of everyone living in the UK! Would anyone be interested in getting one set up in Canda, or if that is to optimistic, just North America in general? Love Jane +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jrgadsby at xxx.net Mon Nov 29 07:43:56 1999 From: jrgadsby at xxx.net (jane gadsby) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 23:43:56 -0800 Subject: Sinister: I Can Post! I Can Post! Message-ID: <008801bf3a3d$7ed88b80$3ce834d1@peter> Hi! During my nursery stay I was made aware of the importance of being interesting! Ahhhh! Such pressure on a new postie! Anyway intersting occurances are rare in my life, but I 'll post now anyway, just because I finally can!. Once upon a time I was on the couch of a friends place waiting while he was putting his little boy to bed, and the little boy said "put on the nice music daddy!", and that was when I first heard B&S! And I have been mesmorized ever since. Isn't that a lovely way to drift into sleep? I imagine my life would have been more magical somehow if that had been my childhood bedtime ritual. I listen to the nice music with my son now ( he is definatly a more interesting person) He is convinced without a doubt that when inside her mummy's tummy, Isobel was actually an elephant who when she was born turned into a human and her trunk was turned into a cello! (In the future I will try an keep my isn't my kid sweet stories to a minimum, but isn't that sweet?) I live on Vancouver Island, Canda which is beautiful and lovely but the farthest place in the world from any good live music, if anyway can prove me wrong there PLEASE email me!! Well I actually can't think of anything to say now so I'll quit here. Um. Bye! Love Jane +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paiku at xxx.com Mon Nov 29 03:16:42 1999 From: paiku at xxx.com (jubilee ?) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:16:42 PST Subject: Sinister: slick Message-ID: <19991129031642.48835.qmail@hotmail.com> the autechre and sterolab ones are my favourites. well err, i know one of the was stereolab, and another sounded mighty like autechre. Grabbing the young hip folkster it would seem is their goal, but i've yet to see someone under 40 driving one. Strange, that? Who knows. Back to being a professional lurker, 2 years and counting! sarah >I agree..I love all the Volkswagen ads though..they are just so cool and so >polished compared to the 'Like a ROCK..Ohhhh LIKE A ROCK'. >I want the music from all the spots..especially that Cargo G song Ben >Neill.I have no idea who that is,but I just found out from the >website.Their >commerical with the car in the Ice Hotel makes me squeal and sigh.Oh,how I >long to go to the Ice Hotel! Again..I saw a list a top 50 things to do for >New Years (deja vu from last year) and the Ice Hotel was number 19. My >birthday is on the 19th. It should happen. > >Brad asked about: >>but, and here's the point of this letter, i got home and i had my new >>issue >> >of maxim magazine in my mailbox (does anyone else out there read this) >>and >>the new beck cd. the new beck cd is interesting. that's all i'll say. >> >>i heard isobel is addicted to toot. > >Well,according to the december issue of Cosmo: >"Beck:Midnite Vultures >Believe it or not,Beck has dumped his geekiness and is here to sex you >up.Midnite Vultures is full of slinky grooves and nasty talk."Peaches and >Cream" does a salacious bump 'n' grind,and "Debra" is a glimpse into Beck's >dirty mind." >I'm curious about it too.I still have trouble with Beck because he brings >back horrible grade 7 images of spotty,greasy boys singing 'I'm a loser >baby...' But the slinky grooves sounds good.Bear in mind this is the >magazine that also says,on the same page,that "Fly,by the Dixie Chicks is a >barnfull of hell-raising honky-tonk" I've never read Maxim but my friend >says it's a funny magazine even though it is for boys. > >ok,yay fun! >genevieve > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >+-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ >+-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From violent at xxx.yu Mon Nov 29 12:27:11 1999 From: violent at xxx.yu (Kajgana) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:27:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: speeding motorcyle, won't you save me.... References: <001c01bf2fdd$15791d40$e829d4d4@dbgeraghty> Message-ID: <3842711E.9379DD7D@ptt.yu> Yeah, of course I've heard of him. That song (Speeding Motorcycle), he sang whilst in Asylum. And he has schisophrenia. He thinks that he's either a Casper the Friendly Ghost or John Lennon. Before he got to there (to the Asylum ) he went around (the streets, of course) giving his tape to the people (everybody). And he recorded that tape in his bathroom. And Speeding Motorcyle is one of my faves. OOOOOOOOOOOOOh, Yeah, Yeah Are we done? Vesna +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From meepmeepmeepmeep at xxx.com Mon Nov 29 13:59:40 1999 From: meepmeepmeepmeep at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mr=20Beaker?=) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 05:59:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Tree's are shite - long live Lumberjacks. Message-ID: <19991129135940.20490.rocketmail@web1402.mail.yahoo.com> Madame Masson - alone, in her dorm - staring at a tree. No wonder all you University types are so flippin miserable. Is it an apple tree or a tree bearing some form of fruit ? You could play the game we play at work around autumn..sorry, Fall time. We each choose a conker on the tree outside the office and draw a different coloured ring in indellible ink on the window around our chosen horse-chestnut. The last to fall wins a packet of Rich Tea. Windows a fucking mess though. >Mr Beaker, how did you teach Oon to swim? By chucking >her in the water and then sticking a betting slip on >the end of a fishing rod and dangling it just out of >reach? NOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooo. Would I be soooo cruel :) Ooon was braver than I (the water was too cold, and took the plunge in a lifejacket that was more like a lilo for Ooon, bless her little cotton socks. Photographic proof if anyone needs it. In the hotel pool I just took a leaf out of my old gym teachers book and threw medicine balls at her if she stayed still too long. >Did she have a flutter on that elephants' football >match? It was only a penalty shoot-out, highly appropriate that the "English" elephant was pants and kept blazing hopelessy over the bar. Peter Withe wants to pull his finger out. That bloke what used to co-present that trendy current affairs programme on BBC2 (You know the one with Magenta whatserface what New Order did the music to)is doing a bit on Thailand on the Holiday show tomorrow. Hopefully you'll catch that "Magic Moment" when Ooon pulls a moon to the BBC when they tried to photograph the Emerald Buddha. >And is she back on the list? NOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooo. Her computer is as we in the Westcountry like to say, completely "Shagged". (pr. Shahaaaaaaaaagd) >The list without Oon is like a meal without cheese. Indeed, even for those of us that believe that cheese is deeply rooted in evil. Those of you who know Oon could drop her a line at oon_oon at yahoo.com and cheer her up a little...she's just had to put up with me for two weeks and is feeling a little cut off from everyone without her pooter. I'm sure she would resub, but she's too busy eating....oh and she doesn't like internet cafes. Have I offended anyone yet...good. Love and biscuits. Adrian. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com Mon Nov 29 14:17:56 1999 From: Paul.Rudolph.B at xxx.com (Paul Rudolph) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:17:56 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Nick Drake Message-ID: <0056750011725356000002L562*@MHS> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 29 14:33:32 1999 From: mbbx9ff2 at xxx.uk (fiona) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:33:32 BST Subject: Sinister: grinning inanely Message-ID: <37907196EC7@mail1.mcc.ac.uk> alas and welaway! that i so promised i will not protest but for god's love pray make a new request. take all my wealth and let my body go. nay then, beshrew us if i do! so much for modern english translations, but any excuse to email the words 'alas' and 'beshrew' as i continue my ingenious masquerade of actually doing something useful. take all my wealth and let my body go - if only!! clearly written by a man who could imagine that has never tried to search for someone who will spend copious amounts of money on me, in a sea of skint students. not that i'm complaining, mind, (grins inanely again) re: list crush thingie - 3 votes!!! my meteoric rise has begun!! but methinks it won't get very far if i continue sending confused and disjointed posts such as this. those of you who have a view of trees from their window, spare a thought for those of us who have to be content with staring out at a wall. on those lonely staring out of window evenings i just have a wall to keep me company. its not even a very interesting wall, either, i'm sure its a very nice wall and always remembers people's birthday and phones its mum every night, but it really is rather nondescript. thats not dissimilar to the description i would give of the charming people i see in maths lectures every day. the whole world is geared towards making me feel more interesting!! a revelation!! i feel all warm!! this is almost certainly the wrong place to ask, but does anyone have any serious views on cardigans? (as in the garment rather than the band) i have studiously avoided them for the past couple of winters because a) far too many townies wear them, usually not to very flattering effect b) try as i might, i cannot get past the idea that they are for old people and should not be worn by glamorous young hipsters such as myself. they do, however seem to be a very good idea, because it means much of my summer wardrobe can be worn all year round simply by the addition of a cardigan (i've tried this with a scarf but that doesn't keep my arms warm, and numerous jackets become too cumbersome) so you see my dilemma!! shit, calculus is calling me, stay beautiful, kidz, fiona +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dchard at xxx.ca Mon Nov 29 14:52:53 1999 From: dchard at xxx.ca (ipecac spice) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 10:52:53 -0400 (AST) Subject: Sinister: greetings from nova scotia Message-ID: hi all! i was sooo excited the other day when i got the message that i was out of the nursery. then i became paralysed with fear b/c i knew that i could never be as brilliant and witty as i want to be... i greatly enjoy getting all your messages. i won't bore you all by telling you all about myself. i will just say that i'm madly in love with belle and sebastian and if i cannot find sebastian to marry my first born son will be sebastian. i m sorry to have missed out on the whole dialogue on fall and break-ups. so, even though it's long over i'll add my 2 cents now. i don't like fall. it depresses me, everything's dying and it means cold and winter are coming and i hate the cold. i think there's connection between the fall and the seeming number of excessive break-ups this time of year. relationships, like the plants start to die. so what's the deal with gregory's girl? i never heard of this film until i joined this list. anybody want to fill me in on why it's so fabulous? does anyone know if it's ever going to show in halifax (n.s.)? my little brother got the new beck cd the other day. it's good, but quite a jump from mutations. it's as if 2 cds grew out of odelay and it would have made more sense if midnite vultures came right after odelay, but then mutations would seem strange comeing after this so...i liked mutations better even though it makes me sad and lazy. midnite vultures mkes me dance around my room, but i get tired of it before the disc is over. i have never had a b&s related dream. i don't usually dream about bands, esp. if i've never seen them. i did however, recently have a dream that puff daddy married one of the spice girls, no one knew which one but the rumour was it was sporty. ok, i won't bore you all anymore. -di "i want to defy the logic of all sex laws" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From miss_modular at xxx.com Mon Nov 29 15:12:28 1999 From: miss_modular at xxx.com (diana :)) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 15:12:28 GMT Subject: Sinister: ..... Message-ID: <19991129151228.37752.qmail@hotmail.com> hello....erm.... I have quite a fondness for trees and i think that it can be linked to the fact that i am a 23 year old girl who pathetically hides the fact that she smokes from her parents. Every evening when i come home from work (my third job) i stand outside a few doors down from my house and i smoke a cigarette and stare at this spindley tree that twists it's way about a lamp post... i can't get enough of it...it is so beautiful. I must admit, however, that i am not so fond of trees in the summer months because you cannot see the lines...those beautiful lines that i love to paint as i crouch up in my room and sneak my other cigarettes and stare at the lovely tree in my backyard as i hang like a silly girl from my window. yesterday i was coming home from work along my quiet nightime street and i stood across from my pretty tree and i turned up my felt cd and i lit up. I started singing rather loudly and, since it was dead on the streets, dancing in my usual silly manner. Suddenly i looked around there was this guy that lives 3 doors down just staring at the hilarious sight of me being the regular nut that i am ....needless to say i quickly threw my cigarette in a nearby puddle and ran home to hide my face in my pillow... sorry to bore you... you can look at my weird paintings and stuff... www.chickpages.com/musicmania/miss_modular/index.html :)diana ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Mon Nov 29 14:12:21 1999 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:12:21 -0000 Subject: Sinister: 6 o'clock already? I was just in the middle of a dream Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E22A2DFDC@SERVER1> Good morning f. chickens! For some reason I'm pleased, despite being at work. And it being Monday morning. And damp and grey. But hey! I just voted for B&S in the NME readers poll, and Belle and Sebastian as Best Dance Act can only be a click away... For all of you who haven't voted yet (and this includes foreigners, natch), get your arses down to http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/19991117163652.html pronto and vote for the groop in whichever category you think appropriate. In The Face, Pete Waterman! Yeah! Hell, attach it to your sig file! Time for gratitude. Thanks to Ready Steady Mike! and the gorgeous, pouting Pam. They know what for. Thanks also to Kronenbourg for 750 ml bottles of beer. They make you look dead cool, as if you've invented an amazing space-age growing-things ray gun. Thanks to Simon and Garfunkel for writing the "Hello Grandpa my old Friend" song. I think they did, anyway - I have seen the S******s episode it appears in, but my memory (and my prostate, I shouldn't wonder) ain't what it used to be. It's called "The Sound of Silence". Isn't it? Marvellous. No thank, however, to Adrian Evans. You bastard, you were right . Oh well, another triumphant relegation-avoiding season for the mighty Gulls beckons :-( Lucy Alder, in the living room, with a medicine ball, Mark xxx ******************************************************************* The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e mail; please notify us by telephone on 0171 224 1717, and delete the e mail from your computer. This e mail has been checked by our anti-virus system before leaving us; we accept no responsibility for the e mail and any attachments once they leave us. www.hitentertainment.com www.bobthebuilder.org ******************************************************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From windisch24 at xxx.com Mon Nov 29 16:40:30 1999 From: windisch24 at xxx.com (mike windisch) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:40:30 PST Subject: Sinister: damned by dream Message-ID: <19991129164030.7938.qmail@hotmail.com> it was most certainly some tight and perverted business indeed. But thanks be to the wisened arbiter of normal reality, it was just a dream. The docile, twee and ever-so-stylee easy listening belle and sebastian somehow morphed into a heavy metal rock video on the street in front of this here office building. Stuart Murdoch, sporting a mullet cut (see mulletsgalore.com) and brandishing a flying-V guitair, was strutting about like some coked-out cross between mick jagger and billy squire in a revealing pair of tight-assed nuthugger jeans tucked into oversized pony hightops (circa 1984). A sleeveless Ted Nuget shirt revealed them thair arms of sex held high in a callous clap-along to an amphetimine-fueled version of TBWTAS. I had to rub my eyes, blink numerous times and say "what the shit" out loud repeatedly in an effort to clear this abberant hallucination from my sight. But to my chagrin, this sordid scene continued to unfold as that demure chanteuse Isobel emerged from behind the cello done up in patent leather fetish gear with a menacing scowl pasted across her visiage. She strutted sluttily over to Herr David, who was hastily scribbling something into a note book. With a mighty motion of her stiletto-heeled thigh-high Kiss boots, the Isobatrix kicked the scribe square in the bass and onto his ass. Laughing, she snarled wickedly into the microphone something to the effect that she had had enough of his panty-waisting poofta antics and had better scamper off to his tree fort if he didn't want her to unleash the full force of her fresh can of whoop-ass on him. With a studly chortle, Stu. M quipped into the microphone that "this fuggin shit always happens when the bitch's bender ends because the crank ran out" ..... At this point I awoke with a gasp, my sheets sweat soaked and heart racing. I was gripped in a hybrid emotional state that combined fear, laughter and the odd sensation that things were not right in the world at all... In fact, just recounting this horrific scene makes me feel dirty and sinful. In other realms, I caught a very intimate Hefner gig at Brown a couple weeks ago. It was my first encounter with their music and despite a possessed pa was very rewarding experience. I cannot stop listening to the recording I made on the down low with my trusty radio shack recorder. Also, the Make Up will be gigging with a hastily-named supergroup (featuring members of sonic youth, the bad seeds, and some other indy luminaries) this Friday night at the Secret Theater in New London CT. This is a good co-op space with a byob speakeasy booze policy. contact me or check www.hozomeen.org for more details. ciao, windisch ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Mon Nov 29 17:20:54 1999 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MC1996) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:20:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: What age are you? Twenty. Twenty? Nobody's twenty! Message-ID: <3842B5F6.AD56D56C@cs.strath.ac.uk> I was, I think. It's all a bit of a blur. I think I saw an oasis. But maybe it was just a shit band. Anyhoo, I had spiffing weekend, made all the better by the arrival in this fair city of Stephen "Oh, this looks like a nice place to be sick" Hewitt and Rachel "You do look like a tortoise, actually" Playforth. Whose scarf is great. And not just by proxy. The only downers were managing to miss Owen "Robin Askwith" Lowery and Kevan Cooke. Bugger. AWW, HE'S SO SENSITIVE, A BIT LIKE STUART MURDOCH EXCEPT UGLIER I'm not one to get all moist eyed for no good reason, usually only if someone steals my Beano, but I did last night and then again this morning, for different reasons. Luckily I was on my own both times so no-one was there to laugh at me. Strange. Oh, I've just realised something ironic, but it's of no interest to any of you lot. Mark N: > ...if [Erica] shows her bodypart, I'll show my > flabby example of it as well. Alright, lets have a vote. Which do we want to see more, Erica's tits or Mark's? Send your answers to me, or the two of them can just send me the photos and I'll decide whose are better. Nick Dastoor wrote, ages ago: >this is >someone who only recently realised that 'Archel' was subtle corruption of >'Rachel'. Which has nothing to do with anything, I just felt like laughing at Nick. Ha ha ha. Sorry. Jordi: > I´ve become a big Pythons fan, even though they had a nasty sketch about the scots (The one > about the "poet" Ewan McTeagle) Which is strange, cos I thought that was one of the funniest ones they ever did. "If you could just lend me a fiver 'til monday, I've got a postal order coming through etc". I'm laughing again. Continuing the dream theme, I had one the other night where Struan was repeatedly punched by girls he used to go out with. Which probably happens anyway, but it was quite funny in the dream. Everyone who hasn't already should go and see Fight Club this instant, as it's an absolute corker of a film. Comedy, violence, Ed Norton and Meatloaf, what more could you ask for? I'm sure I had other, more interesting things to say than this. Probably not, actually. I should go anyway, so I'll stop here. Alasdair xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paul at xxx.net Mon Nov 29 16:24:10 1999 From: paul at xxx.net (Paul McAllister) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 16:24:10 -0000 Subject: Sinister: big ups to the sinister massiiiive Message-ID: <000201bf3a9a$763f55a0$b443883e@demon.co.uk> i think its about time for another of my tri-yearly postings. i think i must hold the record for watching a 5 minute video clip the most number of times. i have now watched that tube clip more than 35 times. sad i know. anyhow, first a plea for advice.....ive just started getting offers back from universities. well ive got one so far which was from glasgow. if theres any kind folk who either go there, did go there, or know people who go there, i would be most grateful if they could make any comments as to whether its any good etc etc and what its like to be a student in glasgow la la la. ive heard one horror story from a friend who's cousin went there and got nastily beaten up in his first week for being english. i assume thats not commonplace but feel free to correct me. am i being naive...... hmm only a few 6 months left of school ever. yay. then a big holiday. we've just bought a huge old dodge van to paint black and recreate the A team van so we can drive it to amsterdam for euro 2000. which should be good. and expensive. oh dear. why cant i be rich.... ATP....im a bit bothered about this. there seems to be a lack of information from official sources. all ive heard is that mogwai are deciding the lineup.....but most of the original line up will be there too. so that either means that theres going to be lots of bands, or (more likely) that ive got confused somewhere and have got it all wrong.... original tickets are valid, so does that mean that there arent many tickets left? or have they made more available? what are the chances of a certain octet turning up as surprise guests? or am i just dreaming here....... re: mr.david. tis all a bit worrying. if he really isnt touring again with the band does that mean he's left? or is he just waiting for the album to be finished so he can leave then? or is he just a lazy arse? or am i reading far to much into it...... and can i finish every paragraph with a rhetoric..... right im off to disappear for another 4 months or so, be good paul ---------------------------------------------------- Paul McAllister paul at belleandsebastian.org ICQ#21292923 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jeanette at xxx.com Mon Nov 29 13:32:47 1999 From: jeanette at xxx.com (Jeanette) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:32:47 +0000 Subject: Sinister: advice for Mr. McAllister Message-ID: <38428064.35BD@ktc.com> Paul McAllister asked about the dangers of going to school in Glasgow, and I think other Sinisterines have voiced concerns about violence in that particular city. I've never been to Glasgow, but I think avoiding VALETS in said city may be the key to a pleasant, violence-free visit. Apparenty valets are very mean and dangerous there. I'm basing this assumption on some of Stu M's warblings, but I'm sure he wouldn't lie to us. You know, "a valet's like a loaded gun ..." Ah, never mind. jeanette +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Walkn10 at xxx.com Mon Nov 29 19:49:41 1999 From: Walkn10 at xxx.com (Walkn10 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:49:41 EST Subject: Sinister: I'm waiting for the day when you can love again... Message-ID: <0.4239597c.257432d5@aol.com> I'm not exactly sure what happened, but after not posting for an entire week my list crush votes doubled. I'm not sure whether to be overjoyed or a tad insulted...ahhh, who am I kidding? We all know I talk rot, so I guess in that case less is more. Can anyone tell me if the new version of "Loneliness..." differs from the various demo versions they've done? It is a truly great song, and I guess the fact that they recorded that for the Tube would imply that its the first single as rumored. I hope Lord Anthony is still the B-side. All this talk about Stuart David distancing himself from the group is a bit disconcerting. I know they're not the Monkees and all, but it seems like he's growing a bit sick of the deal. He really loves to knock us doesn't he? First he calls one of our members "ignorant" awhile back (didn't he post that to the list), then he calls us all "freaky." What's up his crag? I also remember Sarah mentioning in one of the early updates that he liked to ruthlessly belittle the people who took time out of their lives to mail the band. I don't think he likes his fans too much. He seemed awfully jolly at the Looper show, but I guess B&S fans aren't his bag. Any DC/MD/VA listees who have nothing to do this Sat evening should all come out to the Antietam battlefield (in Sharpsburg, MD) at 6pm. This is the date of the annual "Battlefield Illumination" where over 23,000 candles are lit around the field to represent each casualty of the battle. I've never seen the Illumination, but I hear its quite nice, and the park itself is actually breathtaking in how well its been preserved. Its free and if you're a pansy who can't stand the cold, you can just take the driving tour and stay inside your warm, cozy car (and maybe listen to something nice at the same time). Mail me if you'd like to meet up somewhere in town. I heard Marie Elia's school had a day off because it was the first day of Hunting Season. I just have to laugh (with her of course)... I'm out like trout... Steve C. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skag_heaven at xxx.com Mon Nov 29 20:21:18 1999 From: skag_heaven at xxx.com (Tim Gardner) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:21:18 GMT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19991129202119.51871.qmail@hotmail.com> Well hello Sinisterites, Nick Dastoor asked if Comet Gain had covered "Don't Worry Baby". I referred to my walking encyclopedia of pop, Comet Gain section, at Track & Field on Friday and apparently they haven't. Which is a pity, really. Especially as I was looking forward to being able to say "Yes, and I can get you an autographed copy from..." in an Arthur Daley stylee. Erica plugged the David Devant & His Spirit Wife gig on the 11th of December in London. I'd love to go but I think I'm out of town that night. It's annoying because I haven't seen them for two years and, while they aren't anything very special on record, when they play live they're a real treat. Did you know time: Nick from DD&HSW's missus is in this week's Hot Tickets, very scary she looks too. I nearly dropped my coffee when I saw it. If you have Hot Tickets then look at the bit in the Clubs section, the Clubbing It piece on Uncle Bob's Wedding Reception, you'll see what I mean. David Geraghty and Zoe mentioned Daniel Johnston. Yes, Daniel Johnston. His first record for years came out a few months ago on Leicester's own Pickled Egg label, on virgin white vinyl. He also penned "True Love Will Find You In The End", which was covered by Sonic Boom a few years back. I didn't have to refer to my walking encyclopedia of pop for that one, just my spoddy knowledge of all things Spacemen 3-shaped. The whole Isobel debate seems to have finished for now, which is good. I wouldn't have wanted to express my opinion either way for fear of ruining the fantasies of a hundred twee indie boys (and girls) or perpetuating that "Isobel is perfect" thing. I'll keep my opinions to myself and if anyone wants to loosen my tongue by plying me with drink then you're all very welcome to try. Go on, please try. It'd make my day, just like the letter I received last year that said "If you do this for me then I'll suck your cock for a week", or words to that effect. Seriously, pop stars should remain aloof. It allows them to retain an element of mystery, keeps them special. Otherwise they just turn into pathetic showbiz whores, see 'er from Catatonia, Jarvis Cocker from Pulp and The Sexcapades Of Dan Diego. Equally, pop stars shouldn't be down to earth and normal. Then you get the Shitophonics who are quite the dullest band I've ever chanced upon. It's a balance thing. If I sound like a music fascist then so what, it's my job to be a music fascist. You don't get to be an elitest indie SNOB overnight y'know. It takes literally days of training and years of bitterness. Not forgetting a chip on your shoulder the size of the Jubilee Line extension. We lay on the bed there, kissing just for crack pipes... Yours Tim Gardner BA (Hons) Musical Fascism. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sadandsentimental at xxx.com Mon Nov 29 23:07:24 1999 From: sadandsentimental at xxx.com (Curtis Heath) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:07:24 -0600 Subject: Sinister: (No Subject) Message-ID: Goddamnit! I hate to say it but I like the Nick Drake commercial. And believe me, I have zero tolerance for capitalism... But Nick Drake could make my Vegan-ass eat veal burgers. Love Curtis Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://my.lycos.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ol01 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 30 00:38:27 1999 From: ol01 at xxx.uk (The Narrow Wizard) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:38:27 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: thankyou for being you, it's so good to know you. Message-ID: Hey look at that, I managed to use a Pastels song lyric in order to title a post which is a big thankyou to a lot of people. So here's thanks to Charles Sean Ellen Adam and Sarah for helping me with my lyric problem If anyone was wondering the lines came from "Another Night In" by Strangelove. also thanks to whoever gave my third listcrush vote you're a fool but I think you're cool. and it's nice that I'm climbing the table 'cos some of the people above me I've never really heard of even though I read every post. Multiple or self voting perhaps? Or am I just a cynic? Can I stop writting questions now? What do you think? My only other news is that I think I should give up on women 'cos I don't understand them, my reasoning for this though is too boring to bother telling you about. It does seem to be a theme of the list at the minute, to give up sex in favour of fireworks and knitting. I wish I could knit and I wish I could afford fireworks "Man is by his nature so foolish, that wisdom is just a varied freak of folly." Thats a quote by some famous guy but I can't remember who. sorry about this but I've had a few drinks love and hugs owen With that the narrow wizard waggled his bushy eyebrows and disappeared in a flash of blue flame leaving behind only a faint smell of cinnamon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From meepmeepmeepmeep at xxx.com Tue Nov 30 13:31:57 1999 From: meepmeepmeepmeep at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mr=20Beaker?=) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:31:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: X38 Message-ID: <19991130133157.26956.rocketmail@web1404.mail.yahoo.com> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From meepmeepmeepmeep at xxx.com Tue Nov 30 13:41:11 1999 From: meepmeepmeepmeep at xxx.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mr=20Beaker?=) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 05:41:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: X38 - Let's try again shall we? Message-ID: <19991130134111.28682.rocketmail@web1404.mail.yahoo.com> TRAINS AND BOATS AND ELECTRONIC MAIL My posts are like the X38 to Plymouth. You wait 6 months for one and then three come at once (four if you include my attempt at crapness), and when it actually gets there it's full of crap. Sorry to anyone on the list who might have emotional ties to Plymouth...you must be very disturbed. BERWICK RANGERS A Big Hearty congrats to our very own Liz Daplyn, she may have ended up on the losing side, but the variety of faces pulled and dirty looks thrown was, even to a man of as many years practice as me, mightily impressive. How you never twatted that bastard Paxman I'll never be sure..."COME ON WILL YOU". How rude. Still, I must express my disappointment at your not being up for the Berwick Rangers one....Liz my dear, if there was ever a starting point for British footy trivia....tsk tsk. Respect for the cardie though. The Intolerable Mr Beaker. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cassidyloop at xxx.com Tue Nov 30 13:46:17 1999 From: cassidyloop at xxx.com (diegster sinister) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:46:17 GMT Subject: Sinister: salutations Message-ID: <19991130134617.77623.qmail@hotmail.com> woow, so i finally made it in here. i�m really psiched about this moment, loosing my virginity in the list... :] what can i say? in my normal life, i have to show all the time my affection for belle and sebastian...like all my friends at university did never understood how could i play rugby and like b&s at the same time. they thought those two activities couldn�t co exist harmoniously. so when last weekend i totally broke my knee during the game, in the most stupid way, kicking the ball, they all agreed that it was all belle and sebastian�s fault. allright, if breaking my knee means total devotion to The Band, may it be welcome. if loving someone means feeling terrible angst, may the suffering be welcome. but that�s not how i see it. anyways,no intention to annoy anyone, by the moment. love, diego ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From glam_girl2000 at xxx.com Tue Nov 30 14:08:07 1999 From: glam_girl2000 at xxx.com (secret crush) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 09:08:07 EST Subject: Sinister: what does the millennium mean to you? Message-ID: <19991130140807.12979.qmail@hotmail.com> i was very disturbed this morning, let me repeat, VERY DISTURBED, to receive by post haste a confirmation that one of my poems was to be featured in a book called "america at the millennium". i don't even vaguely remember entering a submission. why they would want to publish it, especially in something they describe as 'the most anticipated book the international library of poetry has ever published' is beyond me. i think you'll understand why it's disturbing: Untitled I stare at the river before me Its endless deep waters entrance me into a soft daydream of wetness... The water itself is my home. To feel the water envelop my skin, seeping into my eyes, into my mouth and into my lungs is to be forever at peace. The cold dampness can be felt in my bones and my fingerips glide along the surface. The world underwater is so safe and comforting and the perspective from beneath is true The twisted blur of human life does not exist under a layer of water, All is calm except for the current that sweeps me away into another world. i'm not sure if i'll initial the entry or not. any advice? dream on, heather e. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bfundak at xxx.org Tue Nov 30 15:00:39 1999 From: bfundak at xxx.org (Brandt Fundak) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 10:00:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Expectations Message-ID: So, everybody keeps telling me how lucky I am that Hefner is making a stop in the Cleveland area tomorrow night, and I would be silly to say that I am not absolutely excited that they are playing here in Cleveland, especially since it's the last good show of the year. Maybe I'm just looking a gift horse in the mouth, but I don't feel lucky. All the Hefner show is making me wonder is why we can't have shows like this in Cleveland all the time. The last good shows we had were Archer Prewitt/Quasi and Olivia Tremor Control, but that was a month ago. Am I being picky/snobbish? I just hate the fact that the pop scene really sucks around here and no one apart from me really cares. I realize that getting 1 show a month may be better than what some people on the list may get, but I really don't have much else to look forward to, as a good pop show will usually blow my Playstation NHL99 season away. Brandt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From p.cullen at xxx.com Tue Nov 30 14:57:57 1999 From: p.cullen at xxx.com (Paula Cullen) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:57:57 -0000 Subject: Sinister: i dont want your, i dont need your, pseudo satisfaction, baby. Message-ID: <01BF3B43.4A85E600.p.cullen@music-control.com> yes. i *know* this doesn't warrant a post, but...... has anyone noticed the striking similiarity between mick cooke and the singer bloke from Top Pop Combo Sugar Ray? no? oh. while i'm here...... a lot of you seem to be having B&S related dreams lately. a couple of weeks ago, i had a dream about Olivia Tremor Control, depite never having (a) seen them, or (b) heard ANY of their music. i also had a dream about the A-Teens, but i probably shouldn't go into that here. before i go, am i allowed tell slightly un-PC jokes here? probably not, so cover your eyes now if you are easily offended, or something. Q: what sparkles like a diamond and is small enough to fit in a schoolgirls ring? A: gary glitter Q: what happened to the midget when he walked in to ladies toilets? A: he got a box in the face. (note to people who dont speaka da eengleesh - "box" can mean "to punch/hit" or it can also mean ladies "bits". just wanted to clear that up, what with the gee debacle and all...) i should *probably* stop now, shouldn't i? paula cullen booze explosion booooze!!!! yeeeaaahh!!! "getting beer poured over your head isn't necessarily a bad thing. it's cold, it's good for your hair, and it makes you smell like a champ." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From david.r.simpson at xxx.uk Tue Nov 30 15:28:57 1999 From: david.r.simpson at xxx.uk (Div) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:28:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Monkeys- like people but... different. Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19991130152857.0091ebd0@pop-hub.strath.ac.uk> Heeelloooo again. Apparently on the next release of our beloved banned there will be excited 'crowd sounds'. Is this impressive? I heard it from someone on my course (BA Applied Music) who I don't know v. well so it might be a load of ballocks. Maybe it is true, though. A couple of other people on this course played on TWITTERYBUSS (Gail Anderson, Sarah Wilson), so prehaps there is a whole connection thing going on. I have had BandS dreams before. They were all pretty tedious, though important to me. I woke up incredibly happy, every time- perhaps I don't get out enough. Last night, though, I went out. There was an acoustic night at we'r local. It was fun though I felt a fool after I played my new song what I wrote- 'Monkey'. The audience did not appreciate it. Perhaps after all the Nick Drake and acoustic blues they didn't want Death Metal. Ne'er min', Love Div +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From andrewt at xxx.com Tue Nov 30 16:58:04 1999 From: andrewt at xxx.com (Andrew Tracey) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:58:04 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Yours is the fizzy one Message-ID: <29AA5A0E3A0CD21196F300A0C9D8575C012DCC9D@WROX3> (I sent this an hour ago but I'm using a new mail program and it mucks about with funny colours and fonts so I don't think it got through) Hey up space cadets Bought the Matador Records 3CD compilation the other day, and 'tis banging. Inside the little booklet that comes with it is the complete Matador discography, including records that have yet to be released. And what should I spy there but Belle and Sebastian - TBA Compilation. Release date 5th December 2000!! Interested parties may also wish to note that there is a live Pavement album slated for release on the same date. I'm assuming that someone 'who knows' will know about this and duly become careless with the pulses in the general direction of all us muddy funsters. Andrew +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk Tue Nov 30 16:56:18 1999 From: Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk (Nick.Dastoor at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:56:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Nalda Said this, Edward Said that Message-ID: <80256839.005D11E4.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> Div Said: >Apparently on the next release of our beloved banned there will be excited >'crowd sounds'. Is this impressive? I heard it from someone on my course >(BA Applied Music) who I don't know v. well so it might be a load of ballocks. No, it's true. Never doubt an Applied Music student. See: http://www.mail-archive.com/sinister at majordomo.net/1999-month-08/msg00145.html Tim Gardner Said: >Nick Dastoor asked if Comet Gain had covered "Don't Worry Baby". I referred >to my walking encyclopedia of pop, Comet Gain section, at Track & Field on >Friday and apparently they haven't. Which is a pity, really. A couple of kind people emailed me to say that it's actually Melody Dog (featuring Katrina Pastel). Sadly, it's some obscure deleted compilation CD from 1994 called 'We are Icerink'. I think Bob Stanley was involved somewhere along the line. If anyone has a copy and feels like being an angel they could do me a tape/minidisc. Steve C Said: >Can anyone tell me if the new version of "Loneliness..." differs from the >various demo versions they've done? It's fairly different to the two I've heard (Beat Patrol and the one the tape with Rhoda). Doesn't have the organ of the former (am I getting this wrong) or the completely-impossible-to-hear-because-it's-such-fiftythousandth-genration-copy feel of the latter. As mentioned by many, there's whistling. Also, as mentioned by me, there's lovely, perky guitar picking accompaniment, especially on the intro. It stops quite abruptly, but not in a tuneless mess like some live renditions I've heard. NCJD xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nelle at xxx.se Tue Nov 30 18:00:18 1999 From: nelle at xxx.se (Ellen =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jernstr=F6m?=) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:00:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: a fish can't bird but a bird can fly.. Message-ID: <384410A6.73C6EC2D@hem.passagen.se> chris and mick are dj-ing in sweden thursday. but it's down south. in malmo. i won't be able to make it. i could be upset but i'm getting used to this now, getting used to never being on the right place at the right time. like cinderella: "what's a royal ball..? it could be boring and boring and boring and...absolutely fabulous" (anyway, that's how it goes if you translate the swedish translation back to english. or something like that, anyway. i'm sure you know what i'm trying to say) wella, wella.. i've never had a b&s-dream. but i've had other ones - weird ones. this last week they've been mainly about this guy at work who i didn't even know i fancied, but i suppose i did, and now i really do. hm. but i think he's got a girlfriend and my life is messy enough as it is. i'll force my brain not to dream about him anymore. it seems to confuse me. i really, really have to buy a new pair of shoes. my not-so-white-any-longer-canvas-adidas-sneakers are..well. it's snowing, you know! my black clark's are falling into pieces. but shoes are expensive and i'm poor and anyway i havn't found one pair that i like. yet. i really, really like this listcrush thing. i don't know why. but i do. (honeymummy doesn't like us to write that we like things without writing why we like them, i know..but. sorry?) jenowl mensioned enid blyton and the s:t claire twins last week and i just have to tell you how much i used to lovethose books. really. really adore. it's been a while but i can't swear i wouldn't love them as much if i read them again today. my taste in books (and music and films and art) can be quite childish at times. i should end this silly post with something clever but i won't. *very cute, but not very clever, mumintrolls* /ellen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Tue Nov 30 18:15:23 1999 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 18:15:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Nalda Said this, Edward Said that In-Reply-To: <80256839.005D11E4.00@ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk> Message-ID: Omigod,Nicky D. is so-so that he has two middle names.Middle names are a great mistery to a continental like myself,who obviously lacks of one but instead owns two unconvenient family names who disconcert audiences. I just came back from bribing prospective PhD students and eating enormous quantities of several rubbish as Baby Truffle Galaxy and Paprika Pringles.It is what you do in a current day of your life if you are a cardi-wearing pathetic physicist.No way to be glam. Landslide ,I still believe is a version, and when I go back home for Christmas, I would force my dad to an intensive hypnotising session to get the answer about it,as he is a walking enciclopedya of useless facts and dates about Dusty Springfield, the Shirelles and similar sisterhoods in soul. Someone told me at Bowlie Monica Queen and Isobel are soulmates,girlfriends or whatever you want to call it.High-flying voices skies voices?It is made up, I know. No mentions to any body parts,is there? Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nelle at xxx.se Tue Nov 30 18:36:51 1999 From: nelle at xxx.se (Ellen =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jernstr=F6m?=) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:36:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: me again, pardon pardon. Message-ID: <38441933.3CD725B8@hem.passagen.se> i just _have_ to tell you that i know how to spell "mention". if i didn't tell you i'd spend the next week feeling embarassed about it. it's silly, i know, but it's me. so. now you know. =) *a rollercoaster ride* /ellen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jygsaw18 at xxx.com Tue Nov 30 18:57:49 1999 From: Jygsaw18 at xxx.com (Jygsaw18 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:57:49 EST Subject: Sinister: Matador compilation Message-ID: <0.b2010bdb.2575782d@aol.com> In a message dated 11/30/99 12:06:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, andrewt at wrox.com writes: << And what should I spy there but Belle and Sebastian - TBA Compilation. Release date 5th December 2000!! Interested parties may also wish to note that there is a live Pavement album slated for release on the same date. I'm assuming that someone 'who knows' will know about this and duly become careless with the pulses in the general direction of all us muddy funsters. >> I asked about this a while back and the answer i got was that the so called compilation is nothing more than the EPs available on one cd for US listees. So far the only way to get them is to have them imported. I'm curious to know why Matador lists albums that won't be released for more than a year. It seems like they'd wait until closer to the release date in case any setbacks occurred. If you need more information i think that the emails about this are all in the archives. Or you can email me and i'll tell you what i remember. hope this is informative to 1000 people, give or take a few dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Archel1978 at xxx.com Tue Nov 30 20:01:55 1999 From: Archel1978 at xxx.com (Archel1978 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:01:55 EST Subject: Sinister: songs of innocence and experience Message-ID: <0.577e8f45.25758733@aol.com> hello sinister. sorry for the delay in your weekly, ornithologically inspired, poem, but there seems to be a bit of a poetry kick on the list lately anyway, which is of course GREAT. (must be the autumn.) as ally 'old bastard' cook and owen 'blackmailing sod' aka the narrow wizard hinted, i (and the poetry parrot) was in glasgow for the weekend. i won't bore you, but i had a lovely time and thank you everyone who made me welcome. i also had the knicker-wetting experiences of a) handling an original copy of tigermilk for the first time and b) seeing struan's church (which hasn't even got a bloody steeple - what's a church without a steeple?) but at no point did i try to initiate attempts to stalk band members. at all. anyway, here's the poetry. and yes mr narrow wizard, one is by me, but i thought i should give everyone an alternative as well. so there's also one by the american poet billy collins, who i rather like (and have in fact met, but that's another, and quite boring, story). you have to guess which is which. (not very hard.) On Turning Ten The whole idea of it makes me feel like I'm coming down with something, something worse than any stomach ache or the headaches I get from reading in bad light - a kind of measles of the spirit, a mumps of the psyche, a disfiguring chicken pox of the soul. You tell me it is too early to be looking back, but that is because you have forgotten the perfect simplicity of being one and the beautiful complexity introduced by two. But I can lie on my bed and remember every digit. At four I was an Arabian wizard. I could make myself invisible by drinking a glass of milk a certain way. At seven I was a soldier, at nine a prince. But now I am mostly at the window watching the late afternoon light. Back then it never fell so solemnly against the side of my tree house, and my bicycle never leaned against the garage as it does today, all the dark blue speed drained out of it. This is the beginning of sadness, I say to myself, as I walk through the universe in my sneakers. It is time to say good-bye to my imaginary friends, time to turn the first big number. It seems only yesterday I used to believe there was nothing under my skin but light. If you cut me I would shine. But now when I fall upon the sidewalks of life, I skin my knees. I bleed. Holiday Romance A dry, bleached beach day. You come back smelling of salt wind, open spaces. Each grain of sand you brought with you to bed is slicing through my skin. They irritate like grit in an oyster, worm their way inside my moving flesh, rip tiny, ragged holes along my thighs, roughening, thickening my blood. I turn towards you; they scrape across my breasts, embed themselves inside. I spit out pearl. ------------------------------------------------------------ ahem. and the poetry parrot liked glasgow so much it's flying back there next to Calumn Shearer, to say thanks for putting me up and because i know he has something to share... luv archel xxx ps: everyone who submitted to or was interested in buzzwords - slight change of plan. i'm now doing it as a web zine instead, due to budget and other stuff. i'll keep you posted though. ********* Rachel Playforth archel at iname.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Tue Nov 30 20:19:20 1999 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:19:20 PST Subject: Sinister: "pink tights" "irish things" Message-ID: <19991130201920.10120.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello list, Youn J. Noh wrote of Darren & Hefner: >And Genevieve you just need to unfocus >your eyes a little and let his charm sink in His awkwardness so great >as >to seem deliberate is the very substance of it Oh..trust me..his charms have definitley sunken in but I do think tis his eyes that need to unfocus on me.My eyes are also definitley focused on their bassist..he did seductive hip wiggles with bass guitar,and there I was,eyes wide..mouth opening and closing but not making a sound..he might as well have danced the dance of the seven veils.My popstar crushes worry me. At least the Nick Drake 'Pink Moon' was used for a pretty car commercial blue glow and not like..Odour Eaters. Sorry,I have to comment more on Hefner.Did anyone else see the video for 'I Took Her Love For Granted'?He's not muppet-like in the SLIGHTEST. What are they trying to do to me! Those strange nude-bodysuits with dangly boy bits.They take fun in teasing the hapless fan.Why---I think I have just discovered a loophole in 'Sinister:Bodyparts'.I can mention boy bits in all their googly glory but I don't have to produce a picture of this as I am not the lucky owner of any.While we are on the subject of bodyparts,I do not think there should be pictures of breasts or feet.Because they are just so alien-like looking.Have you ever really looked at your feet..kind of stretched your toes out? Alien babies! I swear.There should be lots of pictures of thighs though...sinewy thighz. I had the most wonderful dream.It didn't have B&S in it.There was a magical weiner dog (daschund?) that,when it combined it's magic powers with the magic powers of a a human boy,it could carry me in a basket around it's neck..floating through the air.I felt so happy when I woke up,I don't know why.I would like to think the boy in the dream was Struan..but I don't think it was.It seems something like he would do.. I think when I have a band,I will call it 'The Struans' or maybe 'Struan & The Pink Tights' (Struan & The Irish Things?) I don't see how the Enforcer turned pink tights into something rude and obscene but obviously it is knowing that naughty Enforcer! kisses, genevieve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From justin at xxx.com Tue Nov 30 21:37:31 1999 From: justin at xxx.com (Justin Williams) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:37:31 -0600 Subject: Sinister: am I strange for not having any reservations about liking Momus? Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19991130150717.0094d3c0@delafont.com> 'ello, There has been mention of Momus awhile back on the list, and after downloading a few of their mp3's (mistaken memories, chastity belt, old friend/newflame) I am incredibly interested in other stuff by them. I went to order one of their albums and it seems they have quite a few releases...any recommendations? I tried the sinister archives, and it is a sea of confusion. I just couldn't find any recommendations, only talk of the lead singer's lovely pervertedness....well then, any help would be appreciated. I hope everyone is doing great... Justin P.S. I really like the part in "Chastity Belt" where he sings "I would turn to sugar crumble, I would gaze and sigh and mumble, like an idiot with a head full of flowers"...wow, good stuff. Btw, does "Momus" stand for or mean anything? Sorry for no B&S material honey, I just respect the kids' opinions more than those around me. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aic99 at xxx.edu Tue Nov 30 22:02:55 1999 From: aic99 at xxx.edu (AIC 99) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 17:02:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: am I strange for not having any reservations about liking Momus? In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19991130150717.0094d3c0@delafont.com> Message-ID: Hello! To be honest though i've heard that not everyone on the list likes MOMUS i'm quite a fan. In fact i was a momus fan before i was a belle and sebastian fan. Momus btw- is a one man "band" and it's taken from the book, the castle by Kafka. :) i can recommend loads of stuff.. :) poison boyfriend i like out of the older stuff.. i'm a big fan of 20 vodka jellies and some other stuff.. write me :) i don't want to clutter the list up since it's non b&s content, but i do have some b&s content. for anyone in the massachusetts area, some of you already know this.. a friend of mine at my college and i are having a belle and sebastian party on the saturday in 2 weeks. :) all of you are welcome. if interested please e-mail me privately. :) and also... how about a US tape tree???? i got inspired to that idea today. :) well.. i'm willing to put a list of people together and all.. so anyone and everyone please e-mail me in private if you so wish. :) well.. byebye and happy days to all Andreea +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jbaze at xxx.com Tue Nov 30 22:07:26 1999 From: jbaze at xxx.com (Josh Baze) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:07:26 -0600 Subject: Sinister: goodbye and farewell Message-ID: <072439845C05D311A3E90004ACB8B73410D3B5@REVEXCHANGE> comrades- after only the quickest orbit through this sinister world it's time for me to keep moving. i'm not sure why i'm even checking out like this, turning in the key to you all, but i am. too much mail, too little time when the supervisor isn't peering over the shoulder. only the best to all of you in the new millineum. look for the solo album in 2000... be good. be very good. 3...2...1...blast off josh +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steven.kado at xxx.ca Tue Nov 30 13:40:17 1999 From: steven.kado at xxx.ca (Steve Kado) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 08:40:17 -0500 Subject: Sinister: schadenfreude Message-ID: <3843D3C1.EC30818D@utoronto.ca> yo. someone said that nick drake could make their 'vegan ass' eat veal burgers. i immediately got a great mental image of nick drake entering said vegan's house while the vegan in question was debating whether touching the veal that had materialized on his table would pollute him or not. nick comfortingly places his hand on the vegan's quivering shoulder and says in his quiet nice little voice "hey, its just veal. have a bit." for the record i don;t eat meat either. my soul is glowing. i saw hefner a while ago. when darran first came out i thought he was from some lame canadian opening act. i cringed when he said 'we're hefner'. "gawd! what a nerd" i thought. all this changed by the end of the set. he was by far the coolest guy in the room and he did it with almost no chin and terrible teeth. he oozes some sort of powerful cool phermone. he is amazing. and i am digging this record by this band bodanstandig 2000. my friends joda and dingo and i were trying to guess which parts of the videogame each of their tracks would come from. but the best part is that they aren't from videogame soundtracks, their just a bunch of (apperantly) german people. they've got this really great one which is remeniscent of when mario finally saves the princess in supermarioland for the gameboy. exceilsor! sktaedvoe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erica.macarthur at xxx.com Thu Nov 25 12:42:59 1999 From: erica.macarthur at xxx.com (Erica MacArthur) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 12:42:59 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Pull Yourself Together References: <200002251242.MAA06464@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <004201bf3742$bb916360$0a54063e@default> Hello Sugarlumps, An execute decision was made in the Sinister Chat room last night - We must remind our new listees of The Secret Sinister Handshake: A belle and sebastian badge pinned on upside down. If you see one, that's a Sinister boy/girl you've got on your hands. Walk away quietly, with your hands behind your back...don't make any sudden movements. I forgot to mention, that in the hustle and bustle of the January Sales I saw a girl with a Belle and Sebastian badge on her bag going up an escaltor to Oxford Circus, with a big huge SUPERLOVERS bag. Was that *you*? Sorry I didn't say hello. I hear word of my endevours has reached Hull, as a girl wearing a tie is accosted in a nightclub straight after The Boy With The Arab Strap is played and accused of being Erica MacArthur. Poor thing. Does anyone else think JenOwl is the ultimate belle and sebastian fan? I do. I should thankyou actually, Jenny, as after you wrote to the list about that Barry boy, I wrote what I think will be my first P!O!P hit: I know a boy called Barry, he's got a ford Capri inside his arms, that's where I wanna be I know a boy called Barry, he's got a thing for me and when we kiss it feels so hea-ven-ly I know a boy called Barry, yeah he's got his gang when they're around, he never holds my hand I know a boy called Barry, he's got a bomber jacket and the music that he likes, well it's just this awful racket. There's a chorus too, but you'll just have to wait until I'm on Top Of The Pops for that. Erica x P.s could someone clever with too much time on their hands please write me some chords for the Barry song? Scarlet rides her bicycle too fast with shut eyes: More Adventures in The House of Scarlet http://www.chickpages.com/rants/golighty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister at missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo at missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+